Reposting: The Vicious Cycle of Third-Party Punishment

Note: I wrote this Thursday or Friday, but I included with it more topical news which seemed to be what people talked about. I'm reposting this without the topical hook so the main point gets noticed.

That doesn't mean you have to talk about this -- this is officially an open thread. I just would like to give the broader point a second exposure.

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I've been talking about this for about two years now, I think -- we did a podcast on the subject with John Sexton (another convert to the cause after I recommended Trial by Fury to him).

Vox now Voxspalains altruistic punishment, which they call "third party punishment."

The two terms describe the same phenomenon, which is that people take pleasure in punishing people for wronging others.

That's the third-party part, or the "altruistic" part -- apes punish other apes for wronging themselves, but apes don't care if you harm another ape.

Humans -- possibly uniquely -- do.

This is an altruistic impulse and it underlies our sense of fairness in society generally.

But there is a dark side to it. Because humans are hard-wired to really, really enjoy punishing others for their alleged sins against other people -- we derive actual pleasure from it; it's that feeling of angry righteous fury political partisans feel -- and sometimes we go deliberately looking for slights to others, which could be entirely imaginary, to righteously punish.

One point the Vox article makes which I haven't made myself is that people are willing to use more vicious punishments when defending the alleged wrongs inflicted on others than they are to avenge wrongs perpetrated on themselves.

This may be because people are naturally more tough than they credit others with being.

And so if you say "You're an asshole" to someone, he just shrugs it off -- who cares?

But if you say "You're an asshole" to one of his designated victim cohorts he is honor-bound to defend and avenge, he assumes a bunch of things about his victim cohort -- that they're weak; that they're excessively sensitive and can be wounded by trivial things; and that they are utterly incapable of standing up for themselves -- and permits himself to engage in cruelty he would never consider indulging in on his own behalf to avenge the wronged third party.

This could be why furious liberals are so furious and nasty about the Washington Redskins team name, but if you ask the actual Indians about it, they shrug and say "What's the big deal? Isn't it a compliment?" and actually name their own high school teams the "Redskins" and other Indian-themed names.

But when you're coming in to defend these Indians -- well, you assume a level of offense on their behalf that really doesn't exist, then you assume they're weak and need a White Knight (usually an actual caucasian White Knight, actually) and you get nastier defending the Poor Indians than you'd ever be defending anyone apart from your own children.

And that's why the internet is so terrible.

This isn't an impulse to be completely suppressed -- as I said, it is this sense of what is "fair" to others that informs the most rudimentary sense of morality and ethics people feel. (Feel, not think.)

Third-party or altruistic punishment is the neurobiological impulse at the root of morality itself.

But it should be restrained. And people need to think deeply: Are these poor souls are being so cruel in defending really so weak that they cannot defend themselves? Are they really this sensitive that they are wounded and scarred by the most trivial verbal gaffe?

Is the imagined cruelty one seeks to avenge actually greater than the deliberate and calculated cruelty the avenger seeks to visit upon the supposed original wrongdoer?

Is the cruelty one is about to deliberately add to the world really likely to make the world a less cruel place? Or just a crueler one?

And one needs to ask -- am I really doing this to save my poor victim cohort, or am I just doing it because cruelty feels good and this is the only socially-permissible outlet for behaving cruelly?

It's this cycle -- imagining a minor slight to be a major one, then escalating this minor alleged cruelty into a major bout of intentional, coordinated group cruelty (group shaming, viral punishment, etc.) -- that is turning the internet, and the society that it shapes, into a never-ending Vicious Circle.

It's time to start letting some things go, and start letting the alleged third-party victims maybe do some complaining and self-defending first before the world jumps in to make every minor squabble a major cultural battle.

Open Thread. Had insomnia. Crazy tired.

Posted by: Ace at 08:00 PM

Comments

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1 To much thinking tonight

Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2016 07:58 PM (Dpy/y)

2 migraine and reading don't mix.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 25, 2016 07:59 PM (0O7c5)

3 hello

Posted by: thathalfrican - failure is not an option at April 25, 2016 08:01 PM (R5HRU)

4 Another name for 3rd Party Punishment is The Democrat Party.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 25, 2016 08:03 PM (ej1L0)

5 You have something there I think.

Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2016 08:03 PM (Dpy/y)

6 Trump robocall out here in Commiefornia. Pointing out that the CA GOP requires one to be registered as a Republican in order to vote in the closed primary, and stating the deadline date (May 23rd, if memory serves).

Failure to understand and comply with advance registration requirements left a bunch of New York's would-be Bernie Sanders primary voters disappointed.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 25, 2016 08:03 PM (noWW6)

7 >>>Open Thread. Had insomnia. Crazy tired.<<<

I hear ya.

Can't sleep... clown will eat me.

Posted by: Bart Simpson at April 25, 2016 08:04 PM (H9MG5)

8 Cruelty is an aphrodisiac. I give you, Ohio.

Posted by: Fritz at April 25, 2016 08:04 PM (+E2Y7)

9 Social media is making it impossible to live in a society.

Posted by: Josephistan at April 25, 2016 08:05 PM (7qAYi)

10 You see it on the internet including here all the time. Instead of allowing the parties involved to settle or drop a disagreement, people just pile on.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 25, 2016 08:05 PM (iQIUe)

11 > people are willing to use more vicious punishments when defending the alleged wrongs inflicted on others

I suspect that's because (assuming social media is involved) the punishers don't know the punished and feel free to imagine they the worst possible sort.

Posted by: ArthurK at April 25, 2016 08:05 PM (h53OH)

12 Straight people with close gay friends definitely feel the need to defend them and their lifestyle.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 25, 2016 08:05 PM (MNgU2)

13 Explains perfectly, the bicycle guy on another blog, that assumes the people he defends can't defend themselves. But he is righteous and everyone else are racist hicks. What a white knight, everyone else is inferior.

Posted by: JHW at April 25, 2016 08:06 PM (kn0BL)

14 "Social justice" is nothing more than collective vengeance.

Posted by: Josephistan at April 25, 2016 08:06 PM (7qAYi)

15 Argal Bargal (sp)

Posted by: Mimzey at April 25, 2016 08:07 PM (aRUb8)

16 Posted by: torquewrench at April 25, 2016 08:03 PM (noWW6)

They could check independent party by mistake. Heh.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 25, 2016 08:08 PM (MNgU2)

17 You gotta be cruel to be kind.

Yea I never got that one either.

Posted by: freaked at April 25, 2016 08:09 PM (BO/km)

18 I remember a time when we would tell busybodies to mind their own damn business. We need to get back to that.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 25, 2016 08:10 PM (kTF2Z)

19 So... just heard on the radio that the kid/now guy Dennis Hastert was paying hush money to is suing Hastert because he didn't pay all the money he was supposed to.

How the Hell does that work?

"Gee mister, you were paying me to keep quiet or I was blackmailing you (which is a crime) about the horrible thing you did to me as my gym teacher, and now that it's public, and I am not getting all my cash, I'm gonna sue you for the rest."

How does this go anywhere in court?!?!

Posted by: SMOD/Orbital Nukes 2016! -- It's the only way to be sure at April 25, 2016 08:10 PM (H9MG5)

20
There's a meteorologist in TX by the name of Chikage Windler. What kind of name is Chikage??

She's cute, too: https://twitter.com/ChikageKEYETV

Oh, and stand by for severe storms.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 25, 2016 08:11 PM (iQIUe)

21 17 You gotta be cruel to be kind.

Yea I never got that one either.
Posted by: freaked at April 25, 2016 08:09 PM (BO/km

***********

Biggest load of horse shit on the planet. And--I "strongly dislike " that song.

Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 25, 2016 08:12 PM (mcm0N)

22 19
How does this go anywhere in court?!?!
Posted by: SMOD/Orbital Nukes 2016! -- It's the only way to be sure at April 25, 2016 08:10 PM (H9MG5)

It's a tax?

Posted by: rickl at April 25, 2016 08:12 PM (sdi6R)

23 Conservatives United for Cruz and Kasich

CUCK '16

Posted by: David Silver at April 25, 2016 08:13 PM (DEJix)

24 Ace, ask your doc for hydroxyzine. Not addictive, calms you right down. Reduces anxiety without lobotomizing, very good for helping stoners who are studying for a drug test to get some sleep. Highly recommended.

Posted by: Milesdei at April 25, 2016 08:13 PM (q7RPx)

25 *peeks in*

Nah, One Year War and a Side being dropped on Australia...

*wanders away*

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 25, 2016 08:13 PM (5Innn)

26 Knights in white satin---that song makes me want to stab something.

Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 25, 2016 08:13 PM (mcm0N)

27 This is what it sounds like when...

Posted by: David Silver at April 25, 2016 08:14 PM (DEJix)

28 >>>There's a meteorologist in TX by the name of Chikage Windler. What kind of name is Chikage??

She's cute, too: https://twitter.com/ChikageKEYETV

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 25, 2016 08:11 PM (iQIUe)<<<

Detecting a high pressure system... in your pants.

Posted by: Chikage Windler at April 25, 2016 08:14 PM (H9MG5)

29 Signs signs everywhere a sign

Posted by: David Silver at April 25, 2016 08:15 PM (DEJix)

30 I guess it's the modern day version of the stockade. Everyone gets to electronically throw rotten fruit and vegetables.

Posted by: no good deed at April 25, 2016 08:15 PM (GgxVX)

31 we did a podcast on the subject with John Sexton

He was great as the 7 million dollar man.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 25, 2016 08:17 PM (zc3Db)

32 29 Signs signs everywhere a sign
Posted by: David Silver at April 25, 2016 08:15 PM (DEJix)

********

aaAaaaaaaAaaarrrRrrgh!

Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 25, 2016 08:18 PM (mcm0N)

33 Not directly related to this (very interesting) post, but does anybody remember some conservative(?) speaker who declaimed the people who always told him that "they disagree with his views, but would die to defend his right to speak them...blah,blah,blah"? Basically said they were all full of shit. I had a discussion about it the other day and couldn't remember who the hell it was who said it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 25, 2016 08:19 PM (2cS/G)

34 Actually, I'm all for a howling mob ripping a man shred to shred, but that is because I have gone done in flames before, while many stood around not caring.

I survived. But I'll never forget that I "died", because what I had at the time wasn't good enough to avoid social defeat. Again, and again, and again.

What you never want to be is more talented than others, physically unimposing/"nothing much", and really quiet by nature. Bad combo, because the bullies outmaneuver you every time, merit alone means little, and no one has your back.

Posted by: "By the mark, Twain" at April 25, 2016 08:19 PM (J3UIw)

35 There's a meteorologist in TX by the name of Chikage Windler. What kind of name is Chikage??

She's cute, too: https://twitter.com/ChikageKEYETV

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 25, 2016 08:11 PM (iQIUe)

Are you sure that's for real? She's cute, but she's looks a bit too flat-chested to be a weather-girl.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 25, 2016 08:20 PM (zc3Db)

36 Somebody told me that there would be an "Ass: The Movie" review in this thread.

Posted by: Fritz at April 25, 2016 08:21 PM (+E2Y7)

37 I guess it's the modern day version of the stockade. Everyone gets to electronically throw rotten fruit and vegetables.
Posted by: no good deed at April 25, 2016 08:15 PM (GgxVX)

I never understood why people did that. Until now.

Posted by: tbodie at April 25, 2016 08:21 PM (hJ+K2)

38 ace, i'd like to register a complaint with the aoshq HR department.

I'm super triggered by the horde.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 25, 2016 08:21 PM (AkOaV)

39 >>>It's a tax?
Posted by: rickl at April 25, 2016 08:12 PM (sdi6R)<<<

Don't get me wrong, Hastert should be "enjoying" the companionship of the wrestling team in Cell Block C (seriously, how is there a statute of limitations on what he "allegedly" did?)... but that this doesn't get laughed out of court shows how completely insane the system is.

Posted by: SMOD/Orbital Nukes 2016! -- It's the only way to be sure at April 25, 2016 08:22 PM (H9MG5)

40 That's the third-party part, or the "altruistic" part -- apes punish other apes for wronging themselves, but apes don't care if you harm another ape.

Altruism really isn't about third parties, though. Altruism is more about selflessness.

As I said in the earlier thread on this, this "altruistic punishment" is really just a subset of "sadism".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 25, 2016 08:22 PM (zc3Db)

41 Just watched Game of Thrones.... was it wrong of me to think the Red Lady got hotter after she took off her necklace???

Posted by: Dirty Randy at April 25, 2016 08:25 PM (nhHPu)

42 "What kind of name is Chikage??"

Shame on you for asking that! That poor weatherperson. Shame Shame Shame. You insensitive lout.

Posted by: freaked at April 25, 2016 08:25 PM (BO/km)

43 Had insomnia. Crazy tired.

A little Old Grand Dad will fix that. *hic*

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at April 25, 2016 08:25 PM (Dwehj)

44
"Wondering about the origin of my name? I think more people ask me about that than weather or any other subject! "Chikage" is Japanese and means "thousands of views or vistas." I was named after the late actress Awashima Chikage. My parents often tease that I'm only 49% Japanese since I can't read, write, or speak it. Does it count that I like sushi? By the way - "Chikage" is pronounced "Ch-kah-gay" - don't be intimidated by how unusual it is!"

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 25, 2016 08:27 PM (iQIUe)

45 A little Old Grand Dad will fix that. *hic*

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at April 25, 2016 08:25 PM (Dwehj)

I really wish you'd stop calling me that name

Posted by: Huma at April 25, 2016 08:28 PM (zLk9E)

46 I just bought a ticket for Postmodern Jukebox, who will be in my area in October. It's a lovely little theater I've been to a number of times over the years. I got a great seat. I could have gotten second row from the stage in the orchestra pit, but it was $30 more. I got second row in the next section back, which is about 7-8 rows from the stage. That's good enough.

Posted by: rickl at April 25, 2016 08:28 PM (sdi6R)

47 I got second row in the next section back, which is about 7-8 rows from the stage. That's good enough.

Posted by: rickl at April 25, 2016 08:28 PM (sdi6R)

You can just identify as a front row ticket holder, anyway, and you're good to go.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 25, 2016 08:30 PM (zc3Db)

48 ^This^

Happy parental alienation awareness day. Or as fathers and some mothers refer to it, Happy state sponsored child kidnapping and child abuse awareness day.

Peace be with you morons and 'ettes.

Posted by: Man of the USA at April 25, 2016 08:32 PM (LY6Ds)

49
Jeremy Corbyn wants power-sharing deal for #Falklands

Labour is nuts!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 25, 2016 08:32 PM (iQIUe)

50 "ASS" gets 3.5 Stars out of 4.

Starring Kanye West, Kim Kardashian, Jack Black and Reese Witherspoon, "ASS" is much more than your averaged Judd Apatow hipster teen rom-com. With a soundtrack by Kanye (recorded entirely underwater in the Bay of Biscayne), a thrilling Jack Black in the action-hero role he's always been destined for, and Reese Witherspoon as a sharecropper's Great-Great-Great-Great Granddaughter looking to "shake it" in the Big City, this movie pushed all my buttons! Well-paced in general, there is an overlong lull in the middle, during which Kim Kardashian attempts to make macaroni and cheese, but even that scene is redeemed by the appearance of Jack Black's character, proudly toting the dolphin he'd slain at the County Fair to take home the blue ribbon.

*Spoiler Alert
Reese Witherspoon is a white woman!

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 25, 2016 08:33 PM (2cS/G)

51 Man, I can remember camping out for concert tickets back in the 70s. Buying them online from the comfort of my home is a decided improvement. That's one feature of the old days I have no desire to relive.

Posted by: rickl at April 25, 2016 08:33 PM (sdi6R)

52 Ace,

I think you're missing part of "maintaining of status" in the defending others part of third party punishment-

Suppose I call you a dickweed and you get angry. So angry that you start stalking me on Facebook and twitter and you're trying to get everyone to heap abuse on me because I called you a dickweed.

Well.....you just look insane. Completely unhinged.

all that happened was you got called a dickweed...Dude, get over it.

But,

say I call some black guy a dickweed. Suddenly, that frees you up to unleash all your inner insanity because now you're fighting "racism".

And "fighting racism" is a social good so you are justified in doing whatever it takes.

Basically, you are dealing with people who are already unhinged- angry at this or that in their lives- Melissa Click is a good example- she has to be unhappy that she looks like a low budget, poorly assembled muppet and boy, the rest of us will pay.

This give them a freebie, a target to unleash all of this crazy bitterness and still elevate or at least maintain their social status.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 25, 2016 08:34 PM (2rmvw)

53
It's ANZAC Day. Shouldnt we be drinking some aussie beer and eating that stinky yeasty crap they like so much?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 25, 2016 08:35 PM (iQIUe)

54 Posted by: rickl at April 25, 2016 08:28 PM (sdi6R)

good for you!

I had a ticket for them when they were in boston, but due to an unforeseen drunken adventure at the casino, I was unable to attend.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 25, 2016 08:36 PM (AkOaV)

55
Had insomnia. Crazy tired.

Dood, take care of that shit. Trust me.

Posted by: The Zombie formerly known as Prince at April 25, 2016 08:38 PM (o98Jz)

56 Maybe some people should be insulted(?)

Posted by: JROD at April 25, 2016 08:39 PM (wnwJC)

57 ...there is an overlong lull in the middle, during which Kim Kardashian attempts to make macaroni and cheese...

snort

that's some funny shit, right there

golf clap

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 25, 2016 08:40 PM (KCxzN)

58 here in Lost Angels, buying tickets for concerts is a mug's game:

as soon as the show opens, all the good tickets are gone, and you have to go to a scalper to get a decent seat.

unexpectedly, we don't go to very many concerts for name bands.

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 25, 2016 08:41 PM (WhYLb)

59 Golf clap accepted.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 25, 2016 08:44 PM (2cS/G)

60 Get some rest, Mr. Ace. Try not to worry so much.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 08:44 PM (Z56vq)

61 19
So... just heard on the radio that the kid/now guy Dennis Hastert was
paying hush money to is suing Hastert because he didn't pay all the
money he was supposed to.

How the Hell does that work?

"Gee
mister, you were paying me to keep quiet or I was blackmailing you
(which is a crime) about the horrible thing you did to me as my gym
teacher, and now that it's public, and I am not getting all my cash, I'm
gonna sue you for the rest."

How does this go anywhere in court?!?!

Posted by: SMOD/Orbital Nukes 2016! -- It's the only way to be sure at April 25, 2016 08:10 PM

they should have just gotten married

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 25, 2016 08:45 PM (0O7c5)

62 Golf clap accepted.

Posted by: Lincolntf

Can penicillin fix that?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....tortured American at April 25, 2016 08:45 PM (+1T7c)

63 >>> I just bought a ticket for Postmodern Jukebox,

Thanks for the heads up.

Posted by: fluffy at April 25, 2016 08:45 PM (2hcmo)

64 Can penicillin fix that?

In most cases.

Posted by: John Daly at April 25, 2016 08:46 PM (Dwehj)

65 @ myself @59

Shit, that's probably what Elin Nordegren said!

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 25, 2016 08:46 PM (2cS/G)

66 Can penicillin fix that?

Shoulda skipped that 19th hole.

Posted by: Tiger Woods at April 25, 2016 08:47 PM (GgxVX)

67 They are like coyotes. Five of them can sound like twenty yapping.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at April 25, 2016 08:48 PM (694qk)

68 63 >>> I just bought a ticket for Postmodern Jukebox,

Thanks for the heads up.
Posted by: fluffy at April 25, 2016 08:45 PM (2hcmo)

Here's the link.

http://postmodernjukebox.com/events/

Posted by: rickl at April 25, 2016 08:48 PM (sdi6R)

69 Knights in white satin---that song makes me want to stab something.

Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 25, 2016 08:13 PM (mcm0N)

Prog rock sucks.

Posted by: M3tal H3ad at April 25, 2016 08:48 PM (cmE8J)

70 Watch out for the IHOP waitress pancakes.

Posted by: John Daly at April 25, 2016 08:48 PM (Dwehj)

71 Third party punishment has been supporting the likes of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson their entire adult lives. Without it, those two would have to get a real job, and you know how high Black unemployment is.
A vicious circle, that's for sure and certain.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 08:49 PM (Z56vq)

72 Emails I've written, never meaning to send.

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at April 25, 2016 08:49 PM (Dwehj)

73 see Emily play...

Posted by: atom heart mother at April 25, 2016 08:51 PM (WhYLb)

74 Over here at Casa H, we like Nights in White Satin. That there was some real Rock & Roll,

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 08:51 PM (Z56vq)

75 And here's where I look like an unredeemable nerd-

I've been recently plowing thru the Naruto Shippuden episodes-

and in a way the whole sequence of with Pein and beyond is a fairly sophisticated meditation on defending those you love and revenge.

Naruto's solution is something I think we need to apply in our current situation with Democrats and Obamoids.

His solution to the old friend who is hellbent on destroying the village in which he lives and the people in that village-

is to fight him as hard as he can and stop him until the old friend recognizes what is in Naruto's heart.

The Democrats are hellbent on destroying America and it's people.

The proper action we must take is fighting them as hard as we can and frustrating their weird dreams of revenge.

We must block them until they finally recognize us for who we are and what is in our hearts.

and we must do this without malice but with firm and unyielding resolve.

Today's GOP refuses to fight and talks of cooperation (bipartisanism) without first standing on their principles and forcing a recognition of who they are and what the want and represent.

This is a recipe for failure and anger.

We are seeing the first part of this in this election.

It will only get worse until we find those who will represent us in gov't and fight the Dims until they have to recognize us and who we are.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 25, 2016 08:51 PM (2rmvw)

76 Watched 202 FTWD, still hoping the zombies will pull off wipping out all of mankind.

Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2016 08:52 PM (Dpy/y)

77 Posted by: Skip at April 25, 2016 08:52 PM (Dpy/y)

Posted by: @votermom at April 25, 2016 08:53 PM (nbrY/)

78 Breathe deep, the gathering choom.

Posted by: Prez'nit Nickelbag at April 25, 2016 08:54 PM (Dwehj)

79 Global Warming BS note:

yesterday evening they had an afternoon forecast for my AO of light breezes(<10mph) and mostly sunny.

this afternoon? 20, gusting to 30, until early tomorrow morning, with rain, clouds etc...

but you want me to believe you can predict decades into the future?

GFY.

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 25, 2016 08:54 PM (WhYLb)

80 Watch white privilege fade from every room.

Posted by: Prez'nit Nickelbag at April 25, 2016 08:56 PM (Dwehj)

81 Over here at Casa H, we like Nights in White Satin. That there was some real Rock Roll,

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 08:51 PM (Z56vq)

Oof. That's like admitting you like spinach quiche.
Eat a steak, drink a beer, listen to some Priest

Posted by: M3tal H3ad at April 25, 2016 08:57 PM (cmE8J)

82
6 Trump robocall out here in Commiefornia. Pointing out that the CA GOP requires one to be registered as a Republican in order to vote in the closed primary, and stating the deadline date (May 23rd, if memory serves).
=======
Mrs. Franpsycho got one of those. She laughed because we are generally used to being totally ignored.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 25, 2016 08:59 PM (EZebt)

83 My pre-Millenial humor seems to have been wasted. Sigh.

Posted by: Prez'nit Nickelbag at April 25, 2016 09:00 PM (Dwehj)

84 I have a recipe for quiche that's pretty good. Maybe I'll share it on the next food thread.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 09:00 PM (Z56vq)

85 TPP allows the left to unleash the puss, the sickness within them upon others, all while allowing them to tell themselves (and virtue signal) what good people they are.

Yes we are all wired such a way, but the left takes it to a new level.
For select individuals they exhibit a sadistic streak a mile wide.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2016 09:01 PM (hVdx9)

86 I have a recipe for quiche that's pretty good. Maybe I'll share it on the next food thread.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 09:00 PM (Z56vq)

Does it have steak in it?

Posted by: M3tal H3ad at April 25, 2016 09:01 PM (cmE8J)

87 I posted this in the morning thread. Here is delegate information for PA morons. My boss' wife sent the links to me. She keeps track of these things better than I do.

http://touch.mcall.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-86674310/

Trump slate: https://tinyurl.com/hcjpelh

Cruz slate: https://tinyurl.com/jbn5uqb

Posted by: rickl at April 25, 2016 09:01 PM (sdi6R)

88
Watch out for the IHOP waitress pancakes.

Posted by: John Daly at April 25, 2016 08:48 PM (Dwehj)

Hey, I've NEVER been a waitress. Asshole.

Posted by: Zombie Rachel Corrie at April 25, 2016 09:01 PM (o98Jz)

89 No, it has sausage in it.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 09:01 PM (Z56vq)

90 And shredded cheddar cheese.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 09:02 PM (Z56vq)

91
89 No, it has sausage in it.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 09:01 PM (Z56vq)
90 And shredded cheddar cheese.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 09:02 PM (Z56vq)

So, diet food.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2016 09:03 PM (o98Jz)

92 And shredded cheddar cheese.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 09:02 PM (Z56vq)
Go on.

Posted by: M3tal H3ad at April 25, 2016 09:04 PM (cmE8J)

93 I feel like Rupert Pupkin on this blog.

Posted by: Prez'nit Nickelbag at April 25, 2016 09:04 PM (Dwehj)

94 From the See Food Diet Plan. Oprah's a practitioner.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 09:04 PM (Z56vq)

95 From the See Food Diet Plan. Oprah's a practitioner.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 09:04 PM (Z56vq)

96 Oh, crap. Nearly forgot that Turn returns tonight.

I wonder if that nice General Arnold will finally be appreciated by the colonials, and help Washington win the Revolution.

Posted by: no, not really at April 25, 2016 09:04 PM (H9MG5)

97 How did I double post? I fear the barrel.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 09:05 PM (Z56vq)

98 I just finished last weeks Vikings and I'm somewhat WTF?ed. Did we seriously just jump 10 years into the future?

Posted by: Grump928(C) needs to muse at April 25, 2016 09:05 PM (rwI+c)

99 Sausage is made of snouts, tails, entrails, and the pure happy dreams of virgins.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 25, 2016 09:06 PM (1xUj/)

100 You forgot the fat. That's what makes the stuff taste good.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 09:07 PM (Z56vq)

101 The other night I was going on about issues with closing the deal on interviews. Got laid off end of October and have been looking since - have had a ton of interviews but just haven't been closing the deal. Suspected cause: middle aged white guy in tech world.

But I had a phone interview today that I got some real feedback on, and its starting to make some sense.

Turns out that that think about people pulling resumes for buzzwords? Totally true - but they aren't reading them, or if they are, they just aren't comprehending what is there. So my resume is chock full of buzzwords that are getting me interviews.

But apparently the stuff I say about my background and experience that I think obviously covers what they are asking just isn't obvious. I get it, because I did it. But they either aren't listening or you have to say things in exactly the way they are expecting to hear it, or you didn't say it.

Today, the HR recruiter asked me whether I had experience dealing with customers (note, on my resume, three different instances of building a service desk for customer service) and so I essentially answered that, figuring well she just didn't read it.

But no, she says, do you have experience dealing with customers?

Total eye opener. I had just told her that I had, but she didn't get that from what I said. I told her, yes, I have LOTS of experience dealing with customers, and then she was like "okay, good."

This helps explain what feedback I am getting from time to time.

So at least. today, the HR person knew enough that there was something in my resume that was a good fit - but she had to hear the answer to her question and she took the time to ask what was unclear to her.

So the mission is make the obvious obvious. I wouldn't have expected that, but gotta do what I gotta do.

And, btw, after going through the job requirement as posted and telling her explicitly where I had every single thing they asked for, she is getting me to an interview with tech staff tomorrow am.

I am not going to assume that he gets it either.

Prayers, luck, whatever you guys can offer.

Thanks in advance.

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 09:08 PM (2Ocf1)

102
Jeremy Corbyn wants power-sharing deal for #Falklands
Labour is nuts!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!

Might as well just give 'em to Argentina.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 25, 2016 09:09 PM (k4M/B)

103 Ace is en fuego!

Posted by: Lurking lurker. at April 25, 2016 09:10 PM (O108X)

104 Stand by for Justice!

Posted by: Curt Anderson at April 25, 2016 09:11 PM (GdFQh)

105 Hang in there Blaster. The recruiter has to repeat what you tell him or her, so tell him or her what they want to hear!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 25, 2016 09:11 PM (EZebt)

106 Good luck, Blaster. Keep us posted on what happens.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 09:11 PM (Z56vq)

107 i LOL'd

"80
Watch white privilege fade from every room. "

not my fault we don't do updings here.

Posted by: atom heart mother at April 25, 2016 09:12 PM (WhYLb)

108
So my resume is chock full of buzzwords that are getting me interviews.

First read that as full of buzzards.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 25, 2016 09:12 PM (k4M/B)

109 So the mission is make the obvious obvious. I wouldn't have expected that, but gotta do what I gotta do.

And, btw, after going through the job requirement as posted and telling her explicitly where I had every single thing they asked for, she is getting me to an interview with tech staff tomorrow am.

I am not going to assume that he gets it either.

Prayers, luck, whatever you guys can offer.

Thanks in advance.
Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 09:08 PM (2Ocf1)

Sock off -
And sending a prayer right now. Hope it works out for you!

Posted by: Jade Sea at April 25, 2016 09:13 PM (O108X)

110 off stupid hippie sock

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 25, 2016 09:13 PM (WhYLb)

111 >>>Jews: What Can't They Do? [CBD]

My guess make a Kosher BLT

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2016 09:14 PM (voOPb)

112 Prayers, luck, whatever you guys can offer.

Thanks in advance.

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 09:08 PM (2Ocf1)
Good luck blaster! Where I work we interview anyone coming into our group. Hopefully, they do as well and will recognize that you know your shit.

Posted by: M3tal H3ad at April 25, 2016 09:14 PM (cmE8J)

113 Blaster, that makes sense.
It would be like me trying to pre screen interview a nuclear physicist for a job.

Posted by: @votermom at April 25, 2016 09:14 PM (nbrY/)

114 Aw man, PMJ doesn't get near me until October. Then I have to go to B'ham or Atlanta to see 'em...

/sulks

Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at April 25, 2016 09:15 PM (D0J8L)

115 Jews: What Can't They Do? [CBD]

Defend themselves from terrorists without getting a shit ton of grief from the UN?

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 09:15 PM (2Ocf1)

116 blaster: the problem is explaining the obvious to the oblivious...

the majority of the population these days has been spoon-fed everything, and couldn't do critical thinking if their life depended on it.

ignorance is bliss, and we're surrounded by happy people.

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 25, 2016 09:16 PM (WhYLb)

117 I happen to like quiche. I'm also a metal head. At one point in my life I was a Sergeant of Marines, 03 thank you very much. Make of it what you will. I've been drinking.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 25, 2016 09:18 PM (kTF2Z)

118 Fox News Alert: Megyn in leather.

Posted by: tu3031 at April 25, 2016 09:19 PM (qJhUV)

119 blaster, I thought you were jumping off the gerbil wheel

Posted by: Jean at April 25, 2016 09:20 PM (cXiMR)

120 118 Fox News Alert: Megyn in leather

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Whip?

Posted by: @votermom at April 25, 2016 09:20 PM (nbrY/)

121
John Sexton. Wasn't he in Mitchell?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 25, 2016 09:22 PM (45oDG)

122 @113 vm the weird part is that if I get on the phone with an HR recruiter - i.e. they work for the company that the position is at, not these headhunter recruiters - I have about 95% conversion rate at that level. I get word that they are sending me to the hiring manager.

At that point, I have had a handful of hiring managers that get word to me that they will be interviewing me - and then they don't - or, I get to that interview, and the deal doesn't close - even if that interview goes super well. (Example - go through interview, guy says he has interviewed six candidates and I am the only one who has passed his muster, that we go to next steps and it will take about 2 weeks to get through that. Then guy totally goes dark and disappears for 6 weeks. And then says, oh, we have a new VP looks like it will be 2 months before I know what our internal alignment will look like....) Or I get some kind of weird feedback from the hiring manager, or no feedback, and the process just stops.

But from the weird feedback, the not making the obvious obvious makes a lot of sense. When I hear that I am not technical enough (which I can guarantee is not the case) or they will say I didn't have experience in something I clearly do.....

Starting to make sense.

So tomorrow, I am going to make sure that I answer back exactly what is asked - like if the question is "do you have experience with customers" I will answer, first, yes, I have a lot of experience with customers.

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 09:23 PM (2Ocf1)

123 114 Aw man, PMJ doesn't get near me until October. Then I have to go to B'ham or Atlanta to see 'em...

/sulks
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at April 25, 2016 09:15 PM (D0J8L)

Mine isn't until October too, but I lucked out. The theater is very close to me. It's about the most convenient venue there is. I've probably seen at least a dozen concerts there over the years.

Posted by: rickl at April 25, 2016 09:23 PM (sdi6R)

124 @119 Jean what you mean?

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 09:24 PM (2Ocf1)

125 I happen to like quiche. I'm also a metal head. At
one point in my life I was a Sergeant of Marines, 03 thank you very
much. Make of it what you will. I've been drinking.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 25, 2016 09:18 PM (kTF2Z)

Slayer? If so, I'll reconsider quiche.

Posted by: M3tal H3ad at April 25, 2016 09:24 PM (cmE8J)

126 "Chikage" sounds like a thing that "bros" go out on Saturday night in search of.

"Hey, dude! We're going to Gas Works. Major Chikage there!"

Posted by: DriveBy at April 25, 2016 09:25 PM (C9Vc8)

127 I have worked at the same place for 31 years. They keep me in the back and try not to let the new people near me.

Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2016 09:25 PM (e3bId)

128 >Jews: What Can't They Do? [CBD]
--------------
Have a foreskin measuring contest?

*I now denounce myself.
- forgive me. I just got here & I'm reading backwards...

Posted by: Chi at April 25, 2016 09:25 PM (AfOTL)

129 Chi you killed the thread.

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 09:28 PM (2Ocf1)

130 Also, do you think this third party punishment thread - posted for the second time - is a subliminal message from ace?

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 09:29 PM (2Ocf1)

131 I once thought the Redskins' team nickname was kinda-sorta in bad taste. I didn't care enough to do anything about it, apart from joking about some similar possibilities for team names based on other ethnotypes (which I won't repeat here, out of respect for Ace's desire not to have folks tossing around racial slurs here). "They have the right to name their team whatever they want, and I have the right to make fun of them for it," was my basic stance on the issue.

But, in recent years, I've learned the origin of the team name (they were named in honor of a University of Washington football coach whose nickname was "The Redskin"), and I saw a poll of American Indians that showed that 90% of them approved of the Redskins name.

Well! I'm not about to argue with 90% of my own primary ethnic group over something I only cared about enough to crack jokes about it.

Also, the folks demanding that the team change its name are, well, just horrible people in general, when you get right down to it.

So, yeah, I am now 100% in favor of that Redskins nickname, and I hope it never changes.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 25, 2016 09:29 PM (0OG8D)

132 127 I have worked at the same place for 31 years. They keep me in the back and try not to let the new people near me.
Posted by: Weasel
------------------
So, basically, you're a mushroom?

Posted by: Chi at April 25, 2016 09:29 PM (AfOTL)

133 How long does unemployment last these days?

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 09:30 PM (Z56vq)

134 130 Also, do you think this third party punishment thread - posted for the second time - is a subliminal message from ace?

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I fear the sub-text is rapidly becoming text.

Posted by: @votermom at April 25, 2016 09:30 PM (nbrY/)

135 117 I happen to like quiche. I'm also a metal head. At one point in my life I was a Sergeant of Marines, 03 thank you very much. Make of it what you will. I've been drinking.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 25, 2016 09:18 PM (kTF2Z)

Ain't nothing wrong with tasty food.

Posted by: rickl at April 25, 2016 09:31 PM (sdi6R)

136 @133 depends on the state, really.

But I think the Federal extension to 99 weeks still exists.

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 09:31 PM (2Ocf1)

137 I saw Chikage open for guys with lots of money and power at ...

wait, I think I messed that up.

Posted by: meme fail at April 25, 2016 09:31 PM (2XcVi)

138 Also, do you think this third party punishment thread - posted for the second time - is a subliminal message from ace?

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 09:29 PM (2Ocf1)
Can we play it backwards?

Posted by: M3tal H3ad at April 25, 2016 09:31 PM (cmE8J)

139 132 127 I have worked at the same place for 31 years. They keep me in the back and try not to let the new people near me.
Posted by: Weasel
------------------
So, basically, you're a mushroom?
Posted by: Chi at April 25, 2016 09:29 PM (AfOTL)

Sometimes it's safer to be a mushroom. Not that I would know

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2016 09:32 PM (voOPb)

140 132 not exactly. I'm on the top floor in a nice office with big windows. But... I know things.

Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2016 09:32 PM (e3bId)

141
Today's GOP refuses to fight and talks of cooperation (bipartisanism) without first standing on their principles and forcing a recognition of who they are and what the want and represent.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 25, 2016 08:51 PM (2rmvw)

Right on the first part. Not so much on the second.

BTW, I've got a giant book of matches and a sharp stick.
They say that an eye for an eye will make the whole world blind, but I say that not responding will guarantee you lose that second eye, and now your enemies dominate you.

Fuck that.

.
.
.
.
.
Not going to say what the giant book of matches is for.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 25, 2016 09:32 PM (kKHcp)

142 Ace, I think the notion of third party punishment could actually be a beneficial sort of thing if we had a largely shared morality. As it is, we are facing a perverse sort of constantly shifting morality. Thus the application of the third party punishment is arbitrary and inconsistent.

Which works well for tyrants, petty and otherwise. Not so well for citizens.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 25, 2016 09:33 PM (NeFrd)

143 129 Chi you killed the thread.
Posted by: blaster
------------
'Tis not my wont.
Alas, it may be my legacy...

Posted by: Chi at April 25, 2016 09:33 PM (AfOTL)

144 I got laid off my nice little office job in January 2009. Nine days after the first immaculation.
The job market was horrendous back in those days. There would be 200 applicants for one position.
I was on unemployment for a long time. I finally found something part-time 2 months after it ran out.
I'm still there, but I'm full-time now.
I worked my tail off to get here. It's not easy when you're over 50.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 09:34 PM (Z56vq)

145 Good luck Blaster.

Anyone who is creating/submitting resumes should run their "finished" version through www.wordle.net. This itr then gives a report about what keywords were most prominent in it, and it is much like the HR software that does the same. You can then alter the verbiage as needed to match your experience.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 25, 2016 09:35 PM (YLidQ)

146 #117: There is absolutely nothing wrong or "unmanly" with liking quiche. Real men like pie, eggs, bacon, onions and cheese, and that's basically what quiche is, when you get right down to it.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 25, 2016 09:35 PM (0OG8D)

147 The GOP is very good at failure theater. One of the things that frustrated me a lot throughout history was that they would "stand on principle" long enough to take maximum damage for whatever position it was that they were standing for, and once no more negatives could be obtained from taking that position, they abandon it and cave - so then they get negatives for caving.

Which, if it happened once, okay. But after a while, you just look at it and go "can't anybody here play this game?"

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 09:35 PM (2Ocf1)

148 One thing I say thanks for regularly is the sense to not screw up the good deal that landed in my lap, career-wise. My first instinct is usually to fuck things like that all up.

Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2016 09:37 PM (e3bId)

149 146 #117:

That book should have been titles Real Men don't know it's called Quiche.
My wife made "egg pie" for me decades ago. I ate more than I should and was contemplating more when she asked how I liked my quiche.

I said the egg pie was great.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 25, 2016 09:38 PM (kKHcp)

150 Also, do you think this third party punishment thread - posted for the second time - is a subliminal message from ace?

---

I fear the sub-text is rapidly becoming text.
Posted by: @votermom at April 25, 2016 09:30 PM (nbrY/)

The "don't talk about the e*******" game came off that way too.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 25, 2016 09:38 PM (uURQL)

151 John Sexton. Wasn't he in Mitchell?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 25, 2016 09:22 PM (45oDG)

MST3K, Joel's last episode. I was thinking "Enter the Dragon" but what do I know?

Posted by: Joe Don Baker at April 25, 2016 09:38 PM (Ht/4p)

152 You know what's really interesting? No one, and I mean no one involved with the while Redskins thing ever asks those of us with certain, er, heritage about what we think. It's a bit interesting....

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 25, 2016 09:39 PM (C9pBZ)

153 "Quiche" just sounds unmanly. If it were called something like "Mega-Pie" there'd be no problem.

Posted by: Josephistan at April 25, 2016 09:40 PM (7qAYi)

154 @ALH wordle does nothing with my resume.

Hmmmm

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 09:40 PM (2Ocf1)

155 151 John Sexton. Wasn't he in Mitchell?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 25, 2016 09:22 PM (45oDG)

MST3K, Joel's last episode. I was thinking "Enter the Dragon" but what do I know?
Posted by: Joe Don Baker at April 25, 2016 09:38 PM (Ht/4p)

Joe Don Baker is MITTENS!

Posted by: Josephistan at April 25, 2016 09:41 PM (7qAYi)

156 You know what's really interesting? No one, and I mean no one involved with the while Redskins thing ever asks those of us with certain, er, heritage about what we think. It's a bit interesting....
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 25, 2016 09:39 PM (C9pBZ)

*****

*Points to the post content*

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 25, 2016 09:41 PM (YLidQ)

157 153 I like quiche. It's breakfast pie.

Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2016 09:41 PM (e3bId)

158 blaster, I thought you said you we looking to get out of IT

Posted by: Jean at April 25, 2016 09:42 PM (cXiMR)

159 Well, the first thing I always tell staff when they have a computer issue is "re-boot".

If that doesn't work, we dig a little deeper.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 09:42 PM (Z56vq)

160 Real men don't let anybody tell them what foods they should like.

Posted by: rickl at April 25, 2016 09:42 PM (sdi6R)

161 146
#117: There is absolutely nothing wrong or "unmanly" with liking quiche.
Real men like pie, eggs, bacon, onions and cheese, and that's basically
what quiche is, when you get right down to it.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 25, 2016 09:35 PM (0OG8D)
I think we can all agree that eating a plate of eggs, bacon, onions and cheese is just fine.

Posted by: M3tal H3ad at April 25, 2016 09:42 PM (cmE8J)

162 Hmmmm
Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 09:40 PM (2Ocf1)

*****

I posted the wordle.net thing. Maybe try the original text/Word version?

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 25, 2016 09:43 PM (YLidQ)

163 Quiche is a French word for Delicious Breakfast.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 09:43 PM (Z56vq)

164 Dammit java mismatch.

Disregard.

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 09:43 PM (2Ocf1)

165 Is bacon, sausage, and home fries allowed in egg pie?

Posted by: Fritz at April 25, 2016 09:43 PM (+E2Y7)

166 @158 nope.

It's what I do, the thing I have of value to sell.

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 09:44 PM (2Ocf1)

167 165 Hell yes. And double cheese if you want.

Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2016 09:44 PM (e3bId)

168 PA rons and ettes, I have a couple of links that list who's the PA delegates are committed to, but I really would like a definitive one, Ed, from the Cruz website. Can anyone help me out ? This is my first time voting so I would like to make sure I'm prepared.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 25, 2016 09:44 PM (mBYZv)

169 @158 though apparently I can't get the right java with the right browser....

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 09:45 PM (2Ocf1)

170 Is there a scrapple quiche?

Posted by: Jean at April 25, 2016 09:45 PM (cXiMR)

171 #165: Absolutely. Sounds great to me!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 25, 2016 09:45 PM (0OG8D)

172 Tim,
I got it. Just pointing out that it'd be a change if at least one self appointed knight would ask first...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 25, 2016 09:45 PM (C9pBZ)

173 you could always go back to blowing things up.

Posted by: Jean at April 25, 2016 09:45 PM (cXiMR)

174 Try Firefox. It works when explorer doesn't.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 09:45 PM (Z56vq)

175 So quiche is a gay French word for omelet.

Posted by: Fritz at April 25, 2016 09:45 PM (+E2Y7)

176
Islamic militants in the Philippines have executed a Canadian hostage, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced Monday, after the Filipino authorities said they had found the head of a foreign man on a remote island.

"I'm outraged by the news that a Canadian citizen, John Ridsdel, held hostage in the Philippines since September 21, 2015, has been killed at the hands of his captors," Trudeau said.

"This was an act of cold-blooded murder and responsibility rests with the terrorist group who took him hostage."

Ridsdel, fellow Canadian tourist Robert Hall, Hall's girlfriend Filipina Marites Flor, and Norwegian resort manager Kjartan Sekkingstad were kidnapped seven months ago from yachts at a marina near the major city of Davao, more than 500 kilometers (300 miles) from Jolo.

http://goo.gl/vZZJ9t

================

MFerks!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 25, 2016 09:46 PM (iQIUe)

177 Real men don't let anybody tell them what foods they should like.
Posted by: rickl at April 25, 2016 09:42 PM (sdi6R)

*****

Yep. I had a Ham and Cheddar quiche at brunch with my daughter on Sunday. Amazingly, nobody said a word. It was damn good, too.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 25, 2016 09:46 PM (YLidQ)

178 Cheese grits would make a good breakfast pie binding agent.

Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2016 09:46 PM (e3bId)

179 chique: See my links at #87. That's the best information I have.

Posted by: rickl at April 25, 2016 09:47 PM (sdi6R)

180 You tell them what you are about to tell them.

Then you tell them.

Then you tell them what you told them.

Posted by: Ralph at April 25, 2016 09:47 PM (hSk36)

181 Is bacon, sausage, and home fries allowed in egg pie?
Posted by: Fritz at April 25, 2016 09:43 PM (+E2Y7)

And mushrooms, and diced green peppers, and diced tomatoes (strained of course).

And double cheese.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 25, 2016 09:47 PM (kKHcp)

182 I can't believe how many positions there are to vote for?!

How do though guys select who to support in the primary when it comes to lower level offices? I'm trying to do my research, but I think if I can't find out stuff about people running for a particular office, I'll just leave it blank.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 25, 2016 09:48 PM (mBYZv)

183 182 triple cheese.

Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2016 09:48 PM (e3bId)

184 " Is bacon, sausage, and home fries allowed in egg pie?"

If you're going to the trouble to make it, I guess you can put anything you want in it and call it whatever you like.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 25, 2016 09:48 PM (9Dj8S)

185 Trump 2016!

#GOPeRulz!

#Shrillary!IsTheKindestBravestWarmestMostWonderfulHumanBeingIveEverKnownInMyLife

No Labels, No Gender, No Passaporte, No Problem! Loans/Voter-Ballots Available!

Prince, Elvis and Sasquatch Form Band!

Posted by: The Midnight Chalkening at April 25, 2016 09:48 PM (AkIVs)

186 and fresh japelenos

Posted by: Jean at April 25, 2016 09:48 PM (cXiMR)

187 Oh, and a note of pop history - quiche back then was usually quiche Lorraine, often w/o the pork.
An all in one pie didn't really catch on till later.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 25, 2016 09:48 PM (C9pBZ)

188 You can only put so much in a 9 inch pie plate, guys.
After that, you upgrade to a 9 x 13 baking dish and we're talking casserole then.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 09:49 PM (Z56vq)

189 I hardly use IE. Chrome. Which for some reason no longer support Java plugins? When did that start. Crap I am old.

I remember when java ran everywhere.

I can't even get it to work in Pale Moon.

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 09:49 PM (2Ocf1)

190 #186: There's a nice addition!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 25, 2016 09:49 PM (0OG8D)

191 Posted by: The Midnight Chalkening at April 25, 2016 09:48 PM (AkIVs)

*****

Dude. Not cool at all to blow out the margins.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 25, 2016 09:49 PM (YLidQ)

192 "and fresh japelenos"

I haven't heard a bad ingredient yet.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 25, 2016 09:50 PM (9Dj8S)

193 MFerks!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 25, 2016 09:46 PM (iQIUe)

Time for the Pretty Boy to grow a pair or show his ass. Of course, he has an example to follow south of him, and that may give him some cover.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 25, 2016 09:50 PM (kKHcp)

194 @173 that would be cool but that's been way too long

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 09:50 PM (2Ocf1)

195 186 agreed. Red, green, or Christmas.

Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2016 09:50 PM (e3bId)

196 Ok, it looks like several of the positions have only one Republican running. That makes it a lot easier.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 25, 2016 09:51 PM (mBYZv)

197 I'm trying to do my research, but I think if I can't find out stuff about people running for a particular office, I'll just leave it blank.
Posted by: chique d'afrique

Generally, if they haven't tried hard enough to reach out to me so that I know their name; and I don't consider their opponent an ass, they don't get my vote. But, the more I get involved, the more often everyone running is an ass.

Posted by: Jean at April 25, 2016 09:51 PM (cXiMR)

198 blaster, you still have an even number of fingers, you must have been good.

Posted by: Jean at April 25, 2016 09:51 PM (cXiMR)

199 163 Quiche is a French word for Delicious Breakfast.
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The English word is Pretension

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2016 09:52 PM (voOPb)

200 I tend to prefer pickled jalapenos over fresh ones, personally, but I won't turn my nose up at fresh ones or anything.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 25, 2016 09:52 PM (0OG8D)

201 The anonymity of the internet is the greatest testosterone enhancer yet devised.

This is why it is so effective as a punishment tool.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 25, 2016 09:52 PM (P/8aq)

202
Suddenly the subject seems to have gotten broader.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 25, 2016 09:53 PM (P/8aq)

203 You can only put so much in a 9 inch pie plate, guys.
After that, you upgrade to a 9 x 13 baking dish and we're talking casserole then.
Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 09:49 PM (Z56vq)

"In", yes, but On is a different cat.
And egg pie casserole don't sound so bad.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 25, 2016 09:53 PM (kKHcp)

204 I became a big fan of jalape�os after a week in Santa Fe. Man, that food was Bueno!

Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2016 09:53 PM (e3bId)

205 Quiche has a crust and requires a pie pan. Omelette are cooked in a frying pan. They both require eggs. I think that sums it up

Posted by: L, Elle at April 25, 2016 09:53 PM (kca06)

206
The English word is Pretension

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2016 09:52 PM (voOPb)

And an ounce of Pretension is worth a pound of manure.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 09:53 PM (Z56vq)

207 182 I can't believe how many positions there are to vote for?!

How do though guys select who to support in the primary when it comes to lower level offices? I'm trying to do my research, but I think if I can't find out stuff about people running for a particular office, I'll just leave it blank.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 25, 2016 09:48 PM (mBYZv)

I do that too. Also, if a candidate is running unopposed, I don't cast a vote for that office. Why bother with a Soviet-style election?

Posted by: rickl at April 25, 2016 09:53 PM (sdi6R)

208 >>>Dude. Not cool at all to blow out the margins.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 25, 2016 09:49 PM (YLidQ)

Margin-aphobic! See?? See??!!? See how I'm being micro-oppressed! Come and see the violence inherent in the system!

Posted by: The Midnight Chalkening at April 25, 2016 09:53 PM (AkIVs)

209 Posted by: Ralph at April 25, 2016 09:47 PM (hSk36)

College profs in the late 60's early 70's (Texas):

If I say it three times, it will be on the next test.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 25, 2016 09:54 PM (3myMJ)

210
You can only put so much in a 9 inch pie plate, guys.

You need the pie that goes up.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 25, 2016 09:54 PM (k4M/B)

211 "I became a big fan of jalapenos after a week in Santa Fe"

Good and good for you.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 25, 2016 09:54 PM (9Dj8S)

212 We're going to need a bigger pie pan.

Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2016 09:54 PM (e3bId)

213 Thanks, rickl!

Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 25, 2016 09:55 PM (mBYZv)

214 >>>You can only put so much in a 9 inch pie plate, guys.

TWSS!

Posted by: The Midnight Chalkening at April 25, 2016 09:55 PM (AkIVs)

215 Margin-aphobic! See?? See??!!? See how I'm being micro-oppressed! Come and see the violence inherent in the system!
Posted by: The Midnight Chalkening at April 25, 2016 09:53 PM (AkIVs)

******

Yeah, about that....just not being an intentional Dick would be enough. Mkay?

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 25, 2016 09:55 PM (YLidQ)

216 So quiche is a pot pie without crust on top.

Posted by: Ralph at April 25, 2016 09:55 PM (hSk36)

217 Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 09:53 PM (Z56vq)

Glad you have your quiche as it appears some one pissed in your wheaties

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2016 09:56 PM (voOPb)

218 You need the pie that goes up. Not available in NY, NJ, CT, MA, or CA.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 25, 2016 09:54 PM (k4M/B)

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 25, 2016 09:56 PM (kKHcp)

219 Quiche : eggs, cream, bacon, salt, pepper, pinch of nutmeg, optional spinach, baked in a crust.

Omelet: eggs, optional milk or cream, meat or veggies, cheese. No crust. Cooked in a skillet.

Egg pie: sweet custard baked in a crust

Posted by: @votermom at April 25, 2016 09:57 PM (nbrY/)

220 Who blew out the damm margins?
It annoys to all hell living in CO bc no one has the pickled japs and only serve the fresh ones if they even have them at all. All the Mexican food here is crap bc it's California Mexican food.

Posted by: L, Elle at April 25, 2016 09:57 PM (kca06)

221 #216: Very similar, yes, but it also has eggs instead of gravy.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 25, 2016 09:57 PM (0OG8D)

222 Chicago is famous for their deep dish quiche.

Posted by: Fritz at April 25, 2016 09:58 PM (+E2Y7)

223 My grandma used to make a caramel pie. Everyone else in the family has tried and failed to make it, and that's WITH the recipe.

The taste is there but it's goop that will run out of the pie plate if you tilt it. Her pies would stay together almost like pumpkin pie.

Dang those were good pies.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 25, 2016 10:00 PM (3myMJ)

224 Hawaiians hate it when you put pineapple on your quiche and call it Hawaiian.

Posted by: all the more reason to do so, of course at April 25, 2016 10:00 PM (2XcVi)

225 If you top it with chocolate would that make it a Hershey's quiche?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 25, 2016 10:00 PM (NeFrd)

226 >>>All the Mexican food here is crap<<<

Teach them how to vote too.

Posted by: Ralph at April 25, 2016 10:00 PM (hSk36)

227 Meremortal maybe it's shoo fly pie?

Posted by: @votermom at April 25, 2016 10:01 PM (nbrY/)

228 You guys are making me hungry and I'm supposed to be on a diet.

I make fruit salad as a side with my quiche. Peeled grapefruit is also good with it.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 10:01 PM (Z56vq)

229 "CO bc no one has the pickled japs and only serve the fresh ones if they even have them at all. "

Here if I order extra jalapenos it'll be a 50/50 toss-up whether they come as grilled fresh ones or pickled. Need to be specific.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 25, 2016 10:02 PM (9Dj8S)

230 #224: I'm pretty sure they're okay with that as long as you also put Spam in it.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 25, 2016 10:02 PM (0OG8D)

231 From the comments I take it no one has read the book Real Men Don't Eat Quiche?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 25, 2016 10:02 PM (MNgU2)

232 I haven't heard a bad ingredient yet.

....kale....

I am actually known for my asparagus, leek, & Gruyere quiche. In a homemade crust. I usually make them in a deep tart pan.

Posted by: lindafell de spair at April 25, 2016 10:03 PM (xVgrA)

233 Great. I was responding to a troll. Sigh.....

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 25, 2016 10:03 PM (YLidQ)

234 So what kind of crust would one find in traditional quiche? Surely not biscuit or dumpling dough, or the like.

Posted by: Fritz at April 25, 2016 10:03 PM (+E2Y7)

235 Okay had to go to a non-wordle cloud site.

Here is my cloud

http://tinypic.com/r/smdidi/9

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 10:03 PM (2Ocf1)

236 Posted by: @votermom at April 25, 2016 10:01 PM (nbrY/)

She called it caramel pie, but I'll check that out, thanks votermom!

Posted by: Meremortal at April 25, 2016 10:04 PM (3myMJ)

237 Put a little marijuana in it and call it Quiche & Chong.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 25, 2016 10:04 PM (NeFrd)

238 @Jean ten fingers ten toes ten inches all there

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 10:04 PM (2Ocf1)

239 >>> I make fruit salad as a side with my quiche. Peeled grapefruit is also good with it.
-----
That's what I do too, ALH. Usually different berries.
Hmm. I never thought about grapefruit. Will have to try.
I ate the most delicious salmon quiche at my church and the lady who made it wouldn't give me the damm recipe. I hate her now.

Posted by: L, Elle at April 25, 2016 10:04 PM (kca06)

240 From the comments I take it no one has read the book Real Men Don't Eat Quiche?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 25, 2016 10:02 PM (MNgU2)

*****

No, the point has already been made that real men don't care about what other people think about what they like to eat.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 25, 2016 10:05 PM (YLidQ)

241 "I haven't heard a bad ingredient yet.

....kale.... "

Now, see, someone's mentioned a bad ingredient.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 25, 2016 10:05 PM (9Dj8S)

242 "Try Firefox. It works when explorer doesn't."

Doing well with Pale Moon. Firefox minus the toxic politics of the Mozilla Organization, and running all of the FF add-ons which I had come to rely upon.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 25, 2016 10:05 PM (noWW6)

243
Put a little marijuana in it and call it Quiche & Chong.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon

Rocky Mountain High Pie

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 25, 2016 10:05 PM (k4M/B)

244 Apparently java plugins are bad now.

Who knew?

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 10:05 PM (2Ocf1)

245 I ate the most delicious salmon quiche at my church and the lady who made it wouldn't give me the damm recipe. I hate her now.

Posted by: L, Elle at April 25, 2016 10:04 PM (kca06)
If she did give you the recipe she would have left something out.
Church ladies are famous for that.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 10:06 PM (Z56vq)

246 >>>salmon quiche at my church and the lady who made it wouldn't give me the damm recipe. I hate her

Rot in hell quiche lady

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2016 10:06 PM (voOPb)

247 Shout out to Prothonotary Warbler...

Hope you're well bro, good to see your nic.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 25, 2016 10:06 PM (3myMJ)

248 Fritz it's the same kind of crust used for pumpkin pies etc

Posted by: @votermom at April 25, 2016 10:06 PM (nbrY/)

249 OK. I had to go get a bowl of cereal.

Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2016 10:07 PM (e3bId)

250 L -

You make a quiche.

Then you put salmon in it.

You're welcome.

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 10:07 PM (2Ocf1)

251 "I ate the most delicious salmon quiche at my church and the lady who made it wouldn't give me the damm recipe. I hate her now. "

All this hate and vitriol at church.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 25, 2016 10:07 PM (9Dj8S)

252 Hawaiians hate it when you put pineapple on your quiche and call it Hawaiian.

Posted by: all the more reason to do so, of course at April 25, 2016 10:00 PM (2XcVi)

They really hate it when I play ring toss.

Posted by: Billy Jeff at April 25, 2016 10:07 PM (cmE8J)

253 salmon quiche at my church and the lady who made it wouldn't give me the damm recipe. I hate her

****

You want we should pay her a little friendly visit? IYKWIM

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 25, 2016 10:08 PM (NeFrd)

254 Oh and I guess i am going to have to go downstairs and get a bowl of cookie dough ice cream.

I BLAME YOU PEOPLE.

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 10:08 PM (2Ocf1)

255 What kind of cereal, Weasel?

Posted by: L, Elle at April 25, 2016 10:08 PM (kca06)

256 Misanthropic Humanitarian likes Wheaties.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 10:09 PM (Z56vq)

257
Somebody here last week used the phrase "virtue klaxoning" (I think I got that right) that I thought was very descriptive and appropriate.

Now if someone could create a text combined with the klaxon sound effect, I'd be dropping that li'l beastie far and wide among the smuggies that crop up in Facebook too often.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 25, 2016 10:09 PM (BK3ZS)

258 Salmon in quiche just sounds wrong.
Salmon belongs on cream cheese in bagels.

Posted by: @votermom at April 25, 2016 10:09 PM (nbrY/)

259 231 From the comments I take it no one has read the book Real Men Don't Eat Quiche?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 25, 2016 10:02 PM (MNgU2)

We were also responding to this comment:

117 I happen to like quiche. I'm also a metal head. At one point in my life I was a Sergeant of Marines, 03 thank you very much. Make of it what you will. I've been drinking.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 25, 2016 09:18 PM (kTF2Z)

I ain't about to tell him that he shouldn't eat quiche.

Posted by: rickl at April 25, 2016 10:09 PM (sdi6R)

260 Ha. Blaster. I tried to recreate it myself using an online recipe. It sucked. I threw it away and hated the church lady even more.

Posted by: L, Elle at April 25, 2016 10:10 PM (kca06)

261 If she did give you the recipe she would have left something out.
Church ladies are famous for that.
Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 10:06 PM (Z56vq)

*****

My Grandma (Dad's side) did this to my Mom. Us 4 kids were in charge of moving Grandma to a new apartment one Saturday. We accidentally kept her recipe box, the one with the handwritten notes on cards, 2 weeks before returning it. I doubt Grandma ever forgave us for that.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 25, 2016 10:10 PM (YLidQ)

262 >>>Fritz it's the same kind of crust used for pumpkin pies etc <<<

Wow. Sounds like a lot of work. Maybe I can order quiche from the local Geno's Quicheria? Hmm.

Posted by: Fritz at April 25, 2016 10:10 PM (+E2Y7)

263 We have a regular trash can and a recycling trash can in the kitchen. Tonight I wiped up a small dot of cooking oil on the counter with a paper towel and tossed it into the recycling bin. WeaselWoman observes this and tells me paper towels aren't recyclable. I told he she was full of shit.

Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2016 10:11 PM (e3bId)

264 256 Misanthropic Humanitarian likes Wheaties.
Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 10:09 PM (Z56vq)

Scrambled eggs, hash browns, sausage & whole wheat toast thank you very much

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2016 10:11 PM (voOPb)

265 I ain't about to tell him that he shouldn't eat quiche.

Posted by: rickl at April 25, 2016 10:09 PM (sdi6R)
Only if he listens to Slayer.

Posted by: M3tal H3ad at April 25, 2016 10:11 PM (cmE8J)

266 So what kind of crust would one find in traditional quiche?

Posted by: Fritz at April 25, 2016 10:03 PM (+E2Y7)

A faggy one.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 25, 2016 10:11 PM (zc3Db)

267 #240: C.S. Lewis's quote about "putting away childish things" applies nicely, here; he specifically cited concern over what other people might think of you for enjoying, say, children's books, as one of those "childish things".

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 25, 2016 10:11 PM (0OG8D)

268 255 boring Cheerios. All we had. Thanks for asking, though.

Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2016 10:12 PM (e3bId)

269
Scrambled eggs, hash browns, sausage & whole wheat toast thank you very much

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2016 10:11 PM (voOPb)

Substitute pie crust and you have.....
Quiche.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 10:12 PM (Z56vq)

270 Just buy a frozen crust. un crimp the edges and singe it a bit and no one will know.

Posted by: @votermom at April 25, 2016 10:12 PM (nbrY/)

271 Quiche is omelet pie. If the French gives you the jitters.

I make mine with bacon.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 25, 2016 10:12 PM (wB8Tg)

272 If she did give you the recipe she would have left something out. Church ladies are famous for that.

Heh! I've been accused of that before and I'm not a church lady. Everyone has learned to stop asking because if I told them, I'd have to kill them.

Posted by: lindafell de spair at April 25, 2016 10:12 PM (xVgrA)

273 We have a regular trash can and a recycling trash can in the kitchen. Tonight I wiped up a small dot of cooking oil on the counter with a paper towel and tossed it into the recycling bin. WeaselWoman observes this and tells me paper towels aren't recyclable. I told he she was full of shit.

Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2016 10:11 PM (e3bId)

These sound like the words of a man with a very comfortable couch.

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 10:12 PM (2Ocf1)

274
Best quiche I had was with tofu and broccoli in it. Made it thick and with a lot of body. Not some sissy thin shite.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 25, 2016 10:13 PM (iQIUe)

275 Wheaties with sliced bananas for the win! Or Crunchy Raisin Bran. Or Captain Crunch or Oh's when I just don't care.

I actually don't eat breakfast or cereal.

Posted by: L, Elle at April 25, 2016 10:13 PM (kca06)

276
273 We have a regular trash can and a recycling trash can in the kitchen. Tonight I wiped up a small dot of cooking oil on the counter with a paper towel and tossed it into the recycling bin. WeaselWoman observes this and tells me paper towels aren't recyclable. I told he she was full of shit.

Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2016 10:11 PM (e3bId)

These sound like the words of a man with a very comfortable couch.

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 10:12 PM (2Ocf1)

Or a trip to the ER in his near future.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 10:13 PM (Z56vq)

277 I like breakfast pizza too. Basically it's quiche without cream.

Posted by: @votermom at April 25, 2016 10:13 PM (nbrY/)

278 #247: Good to see you, too, Meremortal! How've you been?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 25, 2016 10:13 PM (0OG8D)

279 Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 10:12 PM

Oh and add cheese & spinach? No thanks

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2016 10:14 PM (voOPb)

280 @PW not CS Lewis, the Apostle Paul.

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 10:14 PM (2Ocf1)

281 C.S. Lewis's quote about "putting away childish things" applies nicely, here; he specifically cited concern over what other people might think of you for enjoying, say, children's books, as one of those "childish things".
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 25, 2016 10:11 PM (0OG8D)

A friend's formulation of the concept is:

"It takes maturity to know when you can be immature"

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 25, 2016 10:14 PM (uURQL)

282 @223

Boil the condensed milk in a crock pot, you needn't watch it that way. Takes about 3 hours and the pie won't be runny.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 25, 2016 10:15 PM (P/8aq)

283 TOFU?!!!

Posted by: @votermom at April 25, 2016 10:15 PM (nbrY/)

284 These sound like the words of a man with a very comfortable couch.
Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 10:12 PM (2Ocf1)

****

Eehhh. After being married ten years, I stopped doing that and told her she knew where she could go, I was gonna sleep in my own bed. It took a while, but turned she wanted to go to her attorney's office.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 25, 2016 10:15 PM (YLidQ)

285 273. The OTHER smartest thing I ever did was marry WeaselWoman. Man, did I get the better end of that deal! I keep thinking I'm some sort of multi-year project for her or some damn thing.

Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2016 10:16 PM (e3bId)

286 257,
I'd actually sign up with face tweet just to be able to do that!

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 25, 2016 10:16 PM (C9pBZ)

287 Ate some amazing veal scaloppini in Florence, It. Mere-Wife asked the waiter if she could get the recipe. He left and the chef returned. He wrote down the recipe and gave her some verbal instructions. MW looked skeptical but tried it when we got home. Yep, something was not the same. She experimented around and eventually got very close.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 25, 2016 10:16 PM (3myMJ)

288 >>> Posted by: M3tal H3ad at April 25, 2016 10:11 PM (cmE8J)
------
You feeling spaced out, dude?
What was that about?
You're the one who blew out the margins, aren't you?

Posted by: L, Elle at April 25, 2016 10:16 PM (kca06)

289 >>>I actually don't eat breakfast or cereal.

My favorite is coffee, dark roast, black

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2016 10:16 PM (voOPb)

290
We're free to make fun of men who eat quiche.

They are free to say "Fuck you. I'll eat whatever the fuck I want, cocksucker."

God Bless America, land of the free.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 25, 2016 10:16 PM (o98Jz)

291 Ah I see:

Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 10:16 PM (2Ocf1)

292 @PW not CS Lewis, the Apostle Paul.
Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 10:14 PM (2Ocf1)

Paul talks about putting away childish things because one is no longer a child.

CS Lewis talks about people avoiding children's books because they want to appear adult; the concern over an adult appearance is a childish attitude. (An adult simply is; no need for appearance)

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 25, 2016 10:16 PM (uURQL)

293 Quiche is a poor substitute for a big sloppy omelet made with the same ingredients, but it has it's place in the Brunch pantheon.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 25, 2016 10:17 PM (2cS/G)

294 Hey PW, doing well, playing a lot of music and ready for some fishing.

You?

Posted by: Meremortal at April 25, 2016 10:17 PM (3myMJ)

295 "They are free to say "Fuck you. I'll eat whatever the fuck I want, cocksucker."

And that's the way it should be.

*sigh*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 25, 2016 10:17 PM (9Dj8S)

296 #280: What? Did they even have children's books when Jesus walked the earth?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 25, 2016 10:18 PM (0OG8D)

297 I'm with votermom on the TOFU!!???!! You might as well eat nothing instead. It has no taste. You can do better.

Posted by: L, Elle at April 25, 2016 10:19 PM (kca06)

298 Blaster, if you're still around shoot me an email at dnolen0423 at the yahoo dealio. I've been in the E-Suite for a while. I'm also a good coach. I can help you with interviews and I'm really happy to help.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 25, 2016 10:19 PM (kTF2Z)

299 I put a quarter cup of half and half in my morning coffee.

It makes it the prettiest color.

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 10:19 PM (Z56vq)

300 #294: I'm doing well, thanks! Glad to hear you're doing well, too!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 25, 2016 10:19 PM (0OG8D)

301 @votermom: ...Salmon belongs on cream cheese in bagels.

Or in the salmon patties Milady is making right now?

Posted by: mindful webworker dining with the stars at April 25, 2016 10:20 PM (5a8XA)

302 Man, I'm thinking quiche could be delicious if you put like, eight different species of seafood in it. Mmm. Live or dead, doesn't matter.

Posted by: Fritz at April 25, 2016 10:20 PM (+E2Y7)

303 Good luck on the interview Blaster. 'night everyone.

Posted by: Weasel at April 25, 2016 10:20 PM (e3bId)

304 Oh, for heaven's sake.
There's another son-of-a-clown baseball player named "Nomar" now. That was stupid when the Garciaparras did it ---"Nomar" is the father's name, "Ramon," spelled backwards--- and it's even stupider when it's not original.

Sheesh.
I think I'll give my daughter Atiragram a call and rant about it.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 25, 2016 10:21 PM (T/5A0)

305 Going to bed before I raid the fridge

Gnight all

Posted by: @votermom at April 25, 2016 10:21 PM (nbrY/)

306 Had to chuckle a few months ago when a guest asked if we had any organic fat free half and half...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 25, 2016 10:21 PM (C9pBZ)

307 I smoke salmo or lake trout a couple of times a year. It's alright never been a trout or salmon fan

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2016 10:22 PM (voOPb)

308 Dude on the Great British Bake Off won with his Salmon and Pak Choi quiche. It looked great.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 25, 2016 10:22 PM (iQIUe)

309 #300 Fantastic bud, keep rocking, see you around the next bend, I'm out!

Posted by: Meremortal at April 25, 2016 10:22 PM (3myMJ)

310 Goodnight Weasel. Give the furry friends a big hug for me before you hit the sheets

Posted by: L, Elle at April 25, 2016 10:22 PM (kca06)

311 Man, I'm thinking quiche could be delicious if you
put like, eight different species of seafood in it. Mmm. Live or dead,
doesn't matter.

Posted by: Fritz at April 25, 2016 10:20 PM (+E2Y7)

Korean "seafood egg"

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 25, 2016 10:23 PM (T78UI)

312 "It's alright never been a trout or salmon fan"

Not a huge fish person but I've had some smoked trout that make you wanna slap your momma.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 25, 2016 10:23 PM (9Dj8S)

313 And goodnight votermom and Meremortal. Sleep soundly and with all the good dreams.

Where is Slapweasel? The goodnight duty is his job.
Slacker

Posted by: L, Elle at April 25, 2016 10:24 PM (kca06)

314 #309: Good night, Meremortal!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 25, 2016 10:24 PM (0OG8D)

315 @Duke will hit you up tomorrow.

Thanks.

Morons rock.

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2016 10:24 PM (2Ocf1)

316 Had to chuckle a few months ago when a guest asked if we had any organic fat free half and half...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 25, 2016 10:21 PM (C9pBZ)

If they're that stupid you might as well just say, "Sure!"

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 25, 2016 10:24 PM (zc3Db)

317 307,
So, how do you keep them lit?

Badumdum

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 25, 2016 10:25 PM (C9pBZ)

318 Good Night. See you all tomorrow!

Posted by: ALH at April 25, 2016 10:26 PM (Z56vq)

319 Gotta run as well. G'night, nightwalkers!

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 25, 2016 10:27 PM (C9pBZ)

320 Tofu is for the texture.

Like silken tofu with soy sauce drizzled over it, or the sweet soy sauce marinated tofu skins used for inari sushi.

Texture to go with a flavor.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 25, 2016 10:27 PM (uURQL)

321 Goodnight ALH. Blast Enter Sandman. It will help you fall asleep. It's been proven to.

Posted by: L, Elle at April 25, 2016 10:27 PM (kca06)

322 Reading the headline I though this would be about voting 3rd Party, as in punishing Republicans.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 25, 2016 10:28 PM (0LHZx)

323 Goodnight anon a mouse. See you tomorrow hopefully.

Posted by: L, Elle at April 25, 2016 10:30 PM (kca06)

324 Real men eat whatever the fuck they want to eat, wear whatever the fuck they want, listen to whatever the fuck they want, drive whatever the fuck they want. In other words real men don't really give a shit what other people think.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 25, 2016 10:31 PM (0LHZx)

325 Fellah who rents the pasture was burning some bad hay today. Was wet, and made lots of smoke.

The cattle just stood around in the smoke, uncaring. Possibly they appreciated that it kept the flies away?

Anyway, I've heard of smoking meats, but I wasn't aware you did it while they were still on the hoof....

Posted by: mindful webworker is all cat no hattle at April 25, 2016 10:32 PM (5a8XA)

326 Just the opposite is that a poseur will turn their nose up at a egg, bacon cheese pie.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 25, 2016 10:32 PM (MNgU2)

327 I don't know that we are "hard-wired" for 3rd party punishment. Or, if we are hard-wired for that trait, then it is a very localized phenomenon or a phenomenon that can be tapped into and made to "feel" local. It has got to be as close as a grenade for us to care, or for the "wiring" function to kick in. I think about how little we punish if a German gasses a Jew, or if a Japanese rapes a city full of Chinese, or if an Arab blows up a bus full of Britons. It's certainly a politically useful to realize that if we can make people "feel" as though they are within range of the grenade fragments, then they should react as though they were really within range of the outrage. It's just manipulation of weak emotional thinking, not wiring in a general sense, that is being accessed in most cases, I believe.

p.s. come swiftly asteroids.

Posted by: goon at April 25, 2016 10:32 PM (WCaSy)

328 Real men eat whatever the fuck they want to eat, wear whatever the fuck they want, listen to whatever the fuck they want, drive whatever the fuck they want. In other words real men don't really give a shit what other people think.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 25, 2016 10:31 PM (0LHZx)
****

This point was already made by myself and others several times upthread.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 25, 2016 10:34 PM (YLidQ)

329
This point was already made by myself and others several times upthread.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 25, 2016 10:34 PM (YLidQ)

____

You expect me to read 300 comments?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 25, 2016 10:36 PM (0LHZx)

330 Half and half, my grandfather would not drink "milk" he said it tasted like water.

Posted by: Ralph at April 25, 2016 10:37 PM (hSk36)

331 You expect me to read 300 comments?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 25, 2016 10:36 PM (0LHZx

*******
Naahh, but reading the first and last 50 usually works.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 25, 2016 10:37 PM (YLidQ)

332 Well, per Drudge, the Cruz-Kasich alliance is already showing signs of trouble.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 25, 2016 10:37 PM (9Dj8S)

333 I figured my "real men eat whatever they want" thought wasn't original. But I added it on to the pile. My kids have inherited the "don't give a fuck what others think" gene from me. They march to their own drummers and I love that about them.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 25, 2016 10:40 PM (0LHZx)

334 Drudge is disappointing; a total Trumpster, well he's honest; however, the overall quality of his links is so diminished.

Posted by: Ralph at April 25, 2016 10:41 PM (hSk36)

335 No one told you guys Nood?
ONT is up.

Posted by: L, Elle at April 25, 2016 10:42 PM (kca06)

336 Drudge is disappointing; a total Trumpster, well he's honest; however, the overall quality of his links is so diminished.
Posted by: Ralph at April 25, 2016 10:41 PM (hSk36)

How do you measure the quality of the links?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 25, 2016 10:44 PM (uURQL)

337 I'm reminded that the U.N. had more participation by member countries on the Climate thingy a couple of days ago, and I mean governments scratching their names onto proposals and whatnot, than upon any other issue ever brought before that worthless U.S. hating body. I would run out of puke before I could adequately demonstrate how that makes me feel about how warped the world is. I guess that we deserve what we elected if we're dumb enough to keep funding that shit.

Posted by: goon at April 25, 2016 10:46 PM (WCaSy)

338 Chuck Norris ate quiche once. But had to kill everyone who saw him eat it.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 25, 2016 10:47 PM (MNgU2)

339 If we go to the ONT, will there be cake?

Posted by: goon at April 25, 2016 10:48 PM (WCaSy)

340 #339: No, but there will be quiche.

Personally, I'll take quiche over cake. I don't have much of a sweet tooth; I prefer savory flavors over sweet ones.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 25, 2016 10:55 PM (0OG8D)

341 In the past he would link topical and or interesting items not from common sources (a fresh view) and items no one else was reporting. Today most of his non Trump advocacy links are: hosted, Google, Yahoo, WaPo, NYT, I don't need him for that. I don't need Alex Jones or WND either.

He writes good ledes but now they may lead one down the rabbit hole instead of a well written, non MSM article.

Posted by: Ralph at April 25, 2016 11:08 PM (hSk36)

342
How do you measure the quality of the links?

By how many mulligans you can get away with awarding to yourself.

-- Preznint ForePutt

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 25, 2016 11:25 PM (BK3ZS)

343 Ayn Rand agrees with you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51pMod2Aaso

Posted by: Doug at April 26, 2016 08:16 AM (gwSXj)

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