Thread Below the Saturday Gardening Thread: April 16, 2016 [Y-not]

Haters gonna hate:

Talk show host Montel Williams is bullying one of North Carolina\'s Republican congressional candidates because she supports the state's bathroom law that ensures women's safety and privacy.

Kay Daly is a lifelong conservative activist who is running against 21 other candidates to fill NC-13's open seat. Her support of House Bill 2, which requires people to use public restrooms that match their biological sex and not their gender perception, has made her a target of the talk show host, who has called her""a horrid woman."


Speaking of the death of civility, conservative columnist Mary Katharine Ham has been targeted by online trolls recently:

This past week, she published an article entitled "Ivanka Trump Is Everything Donald Wants To Be But Is Not," which received a fair amount of criticism. But some of the critics, rather than attacking the article, went after Ham personally...

@mkhammer I felt sorry for you when your husband died while you were pregnant, but no more, he is better off not being with u ur nasty

--Bettie Harvey (@Bettieh) April 7, 2016

This is the article that triggered the release of so much venom. Throughout the article Ham praises one of Donald Trump's daughters, pointing out the positive qualities she possesses that, in Ham's opinion, Mr. Trump lacks.

It doesn't strike me as a good reason to direct so much hatred at MKH. YMMV.


Open thread for non-gardening talk.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:23 AM




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1 Test?

Posted by: johnd01 at April 16, 2016 11:22 AM (RVFz3)

2 Greetings from San Antonio airport.

Posted by: johnd01 at April 16, 2016 11:22 AM (RVFz3)

3 Oh so late to this party

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2016 11:23 AM (Dpy/y)

4 Brazilian supreme court rejects the appeal by President Dilma Rousseff to halt the impeachment proceedings against her.

Gosh, it sure is fun watching this. If only our own country had formal procedures to perform impeachments of corrupt top public officials, too. Wouldn't that be something?

Posted by: torquewrench at April 16, 2016 11:24 AM (noWW6)

5 "It doesn't strike me as a good reason to direct so much hatred at MKH. YMMV" Your Mileage May Vary? Huh?

Posted by: jason watson at April 16, 2016 11:25 AM (SjXK8)

6 OFF TOPIC FROM DRUDGE!

"University students are struggling to read entire books"

from the UK Independent
http://tinyurl.com/jx8u9tu

maybe the book thread is tomorrow, but thought worth posting

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at April 16, 2016 11:25 AM (qSIlh)

7 There already has been a few perp offenses in this bathroom caper trying to be pulled off by leftists. But I suspect if thread was one every week they wouldn't care.

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2016 11:25 AM (Dpy/y)

8 from the Independent article:

Jenny Pickerill, a professor in environmental geography at the University of Sheffield, told Times Higher Education magazine: "Students struggle with set texts, saying the language or concepts are too hard".

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at April 16, 2016 11:26 AM (qSIlh)

9 Women and girls are eggs and the omelet must be made, right, Montel?

Posted by: eman at April 16, 2016 11:28 AM (MQEz6)

10 by the way, if I claim I'm really an angel on the inside, can I put on a tin halo and use the angel's locker room?

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at April 16, 2016 11:28 AM (qSIlh)

11 Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at April 16, 2016 11:28 AM (qSIlh)

no halo required

Posted by: BignJames at April 16, 2016 11:29 AM (x9c8r)

12 There is a lot of BS being spread about that NC law. The only thing it really does is keep the Gaystapo from suing religious people into bankruptcy.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 16, 2016 11:30 AM (vvmPQ)

13 Montel Williams? I thought he went the way of Jerry Springer and Sally Jesse.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 16, 2016 11:30 AM (0LHZx)

14 MKH writes and some of her readers rest way out on the edge of the curve.

It is unavoidable.

Ignore them or arrest them as needed.

Posted by: eman at April 16, 2016 11:30 AM (MQEz6)

15 Wait what??? Jerry is still on the air?

Confirmed: the nation is dead

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 16, 2016 11:31 AM (0LHZx)

16 13 Montel Williams? I thought he went the way of Jerry Springer and Sally Jesse.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 16, 2016 11:30 AM (0LHZx)
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No. He really campaigned to get that Marine out of the mexican jail and home. Not sure why he thinks this is his new cause. I guess it is a cheap way to get publicity.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 11:33 AM (iQIUe)

17 I'm sorry Ham is getting vitriol- I'm sorry for all of us who are, regardless.of position, actually.

That was a weird premise for an article though.

Dude always seems to be justifiably proud of his kids, and any dad can be proud of his part in helping his kids succeed.

Posted by: @votermom at April 16, 2016 11:33 AM (nbrY/)

18 Montel is banking on his support of veterans to be a shield.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 16, 2016 11:34 AM (k4M/B)

19 The internet: Where people behave like themselves.

And we're surprised there's so much a$$holery to be found?

Come on, people. We're not that naive.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2016 11:34 AM (TOk1P)

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8 from the Independent article:

Jenny Pickerill, a professor in environmental geography at the University of Sheffield, told Times Higher Education magazine: "Students struggle with set texts, saying the language or concepts are too hard".
Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at April 16, 2016 11:26 AM (qSIlh)

Perhaps those students should work harder or choose a different path.

Perhaps the education system that put them in college should be abandoned.

Posted by: eman at April 16, 2016 11:35 AM (MQEz6)

21 Jenny Pickerill, a professor in environmental geography at the University of Sheffield, told Times Higher Education magazine: "Students struggle with set texts, saying the language or concepts are too hard".
Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at April 16, 2016 11:26 AM

Lately I've been into reading Jane Austin.... I'd love to see the little snowflakes try to read Her....

Posted by: donna at April 16, 2016 11:36 AM (O2RFr)

22 Bruce, Montel Williams was in the Marine Corps. Standing up for Marines everywhere, no matter what, is his way of reminding you of that, time to time.
"Hey, watch me! I'm a Marine!"

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 16, 2016 11:37 AM (xq1UY)

23 Last time I saw Montel he was dying from syphilis and peddling high rate credit cards to brown people. He was still bald too.

He sure is someone the average American should turn to for advice and consul.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 16, 2016 11:37 AM (ej1L0)

24 MKH writes and some of her readers rest way out on the edge of the curve.



It is unavoidable.



Ignore them or arrest them as needed.

Posted by: eman at April 16, 2016 11:30 AM (MQEz6)


Yeah, I don't read her. It's sad what happened to her husband, but only "sad" in the sense that the world contains all sorts of tragedy that does not involve me in any meaningful way.

She writes for a living, and puts her name/ideas out there, and this being the internet, she gets replies. Some come from people who don't agree with her. So it gets ugly.

Well yeah.


I deal with ugly stuff on the job every day, but none of it gets on the internet, so nobody cares. Nor should they.

Plus, I'm slightly less pretty than she is.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2016 11:38 AM (TOk1P)

25 I really find it hard to believe that we are having to pass laws to keep the sexes separated in public bathrooms. I guess we're done solving all the big problems.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 16, 2016 11:38 AM (/tuJf)

26 Compare a college textbook from 1950 with a modern one of the same sort.

History book vs. history book, for example.

Posted by: eman at April 16, 2016 11:38 AM (MQEz6)

27 25 I really find it hard to believe that we are having to pass laws to keep the sexes separated in public bathrooms. I guess we're done solving all the big problems.

Well they got their gay marriage so they have to go for more, and more, and more... It's inevitable....Once You let that Horse out of the barn....

Posted by: donna at April 16, 2016 11:40 AM (O2RFr)

28 re 20: you're an evil microaggressor. How can our best and brightest understand what to do on election day if they're not allowed to read what they want and look stuff up on line?

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at April 16, 2016 11:40 AM (qSIlh)

29 Mary Katherine Ham Steaks. Gonna be yuuuge. Really, really fantastic. A little salty. But perfect for grilling. Great.

Posted by: D. Trump at April 16, 2016 11:41 AM (H9MG5)

30 @26 Dude, the new ones have, like, 50 years more History in them!
We're dealing with some real pressure here!

All the way through public school, some of us thought it was a conspiracy that the modern history classes never made it to the last 30-50 years by the end of the year. Teachers blamed snow days.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 16, 2016 11:41 AM (xq1UY)

31 Plus, I'm slightly less pretty than she is.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2016 11:38 AM (TOk1P)

You know the rules...pictures or it didn't.....Oh, never mind. I believe you.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 16, 2016 11:41 AM (Zu3d9)

32 17 I'm sorry Ham is getting vitriol- I'm sorry for all of us who are, regardless.of position, actually.

That was a weird premise for an article though.

Dude always seems to be justifiably proud of his kids, and any dad can be proud of his part in helping his kids succeed.
Posted by: @votermom at April 16, 2016 11:33 AM (nbrY/)
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Yep. She thinks she is being cute but I am sure the target of her adoration, Ivanka, is not amused.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 11:42 AM (iQIUe)

33 Loved the subtle jab at Montel: "...former Marine..."

Keep struggling for relevance, Montel, but I think your sell-by date has passed.

Posted by: JQ Flyover at April 16, 2016 11:42 AM (044Fx)

34 Plus, I'm slightly less pretty than she is.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2016 11:38 AM (TOk1P)

You know the rules...pictures or it didn't.....Oh, never mind. I believe you.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 16, 2016 11:41 AM (Zu3d9)


Which part, the less or the slightly?

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2016 11:42 AM (TOk1P)

35 Bleh, work beckons...

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2016 11:43 AM (TOk1P)

36 Just saw the dentist. Went well. One thing this blizzard's good for is keeping people off the roads so I got in early.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 16, 2016 11:44 AM (ZVK2D)

37 Dad and I just confabbing. The Army, heh.


Thank you, Duty Seargents who don't give a shit.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 16, 2016 11:44 AM (9ym/8)

38 14 MKH writes and some of her readers rest way out on the edge of the curve.

It is unavoidable.

Ignore them or arrest them as needed.

Posted by: eman at April 16, 2016 11:30 AM (MQEz6)


True, there will always be idiots...

But civility has taken a very big hit this election cycle.

When you are constantly called silly names (Trumpoid, Trumpkin, Cruzbot... many others...), anger grows...

When BOTH campaigns devolve to character assassination (lying Ted... Crazy Trump)... it sets a tone....

And when that Tone is not condemned, but EMBRACED by the Press AND Bloggers...

You get a lot of angry people, lashing out....

Posted by: Don Quixote at April 16, 2016 11:44 AM (qf6WZ)

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32 17 I'm sorry Ham is getting vitriol- I'm sorry for all of us who are, regardless.of position, actually.

That was a weird premise for an article though.

Dude always seems to be justifiably proud of his kids, and any dad can be proud of his part in helping his kids succeed.
Posted by: @votermom at April 16, 2016 11:33 AM (nbrY/)
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Yep. She thinks she is being cute but I am sure the target of her adoration, Ivanka, is not amused.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 11:42 AM (iQIUe)

"Yeah, gee, thanks for all the nice things you wrote about me, but I kinda do like and respect my Dad."

Posted by: eman at April 16, 2016 11:45 AM (MQEz6)

40 That's it. I'm taking Montel to hell. Geraldo too.

Posted by: Zombie Morton Downey Jr. at April 16, 2016 11:46 AM (gwG9s)

41 I really find it hard to believe that we are having
to pass laws to keep the sexes separated in public bathrooms. I guess
we're done solving all the big problems.


Posted by: JackStraw

A couple of years ago (literally), who would have even imagined this would be an issue? But the Social De-constructionists have now made it the ISSUE OF THE AGE!

Look at that new shiny thing!

And the sheeple get led around by the nose on the import of this.

Upside, Jane Fonda and Michael Moore have sworn off N. Carolina.

Posted by: Dr. Peter Venkman at April 16, 2016 11:47 AM (+1T7c)

42 But civility has taken a very big hit this election cycle.

When you are constantly called silly names (Trumpoid, Trumpkin, Cruzbot... many others...), anger grows...

When BOTH campaigns devolve to character assassination (lying Ted... Crazy Trump)... it sets a tone....

And when that Tone is not condemned, but EMBRACED by the Press AND Bloggers...

You get a lot of angry people, lashing out....
Posted by: Don Quixote at April 16, 2016 11:44 AM (qf6WZ)

Well, then deal with them as the situation permits. If they make threats, arrest them. If they call you names, ignore them.

One thing not to do is to use these outliers to suggest they are not outliers.

Posted by: eman at April 16, 2016 11:48 AM (MQEz6)

43 Zuul made me post that!

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....tortured American at April 16, 2016 11:48 AM (+1T7c)

44 5 "It doesn't strike me as a good reason to direct so much hatred at MKH. YMMV" Your Mileage May Vary? Huh?
Posted by: jason watson at April 16, 2016 11:25 AM

Huh? was my immediate reaction, too. I guess if someone thinks they've got a good reason, it's OK to bring the hate rather than engage on the merits.

Posted by: Gunga Done at April 16, 2016 11:48 AM (pnRrB)

45 "Jenny Pickerill, a professor in environmental geography"

The department that used to be just "geography" but then renamed and rebranded itself in a desperate attempt to attract in the flighty snowflakes.

Also in the university reading link, there's another academic quoted, who is identified as "Jo Brewis, professor of organisation and consumption at Leicester University".

Organization and consumption?

Posted by: torquewrench at April 16, 2016 11:48 AM (noWW6)

46 "Look at that new shiny thing!"

This will backfire too. It's a play-toy.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 16, 2016 11:49 AM (9ym/8)

47 TDS. Trump Derangement Syndrome.



We have some commentators that are infected, both ways.



MKH's story was about as fluff as you can make one.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 11:49 AM (jJRIy)

48 Well, since our resident North Carolinian expert on the subject (Mike Hammer) isn't here to say it, I will:

The NC law does not REQUIRE separate-sex facilities.
It simply ALLOWS them. Each venue decides what best suits the needs of privacy and security.

The Charlotte moonbat ordinance it overturned REQUIRED you to admit men indiscriminately, obvious men, into women's restrooms, locker rooms, and showers.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 16, 2016 11:52 AM (T/5A0)

49 Well they got their gay marriage so they have to go
for more, and more, and more... It's inevitable....Once You let that
Horse out of the barn....

Posted by: donna at April 16, 2016 11:40 AM (O2RFr)

It's hard to find him to fuck.


Posted by: Human Rights Committee at April 16, 2016 11:52 AM (jJRIy)

50 Same-sex/gay/TG goes nowhere. They can't reproduce.

In real serious times that shit is out the window. You have a penis or a vagina. Period. You do as nature intended.


I hope I haven't offended anyone.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 16, 2016 11:54 AM (9ym/8)

51 Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 11:49 AM (jJRIy)

It was an attack piece on Trump that used his daughter as a club.

Posted by: eman at April 16, 2016 11:54 AM (MQEz6)

52 So I can add Montel to the "pro rape" list of idiot entertainers?

Remember kids, womyn are delicate little tough independent snowflakes who need safe spaces. Separate bathrooms and shower rooms, not so much.

Posted by: Commissar M at April 16, 2016 11:54 AM (vcIHi)

53 Someone should ask Montel Williams straight out, "Do you stand with the child molester, or with the parents and children?"

It is an easy question.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 16, 2016 11:55 AM (9mTYi)

54 I really find it hard to believe that we are having
to pass laws to keep the sexes separated in public bathrooms. I guess
we're done solving all the big problems.


Posted by: JackStraw

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Why? People are stupid to fall for this TG crap, stupid to ignore all the data that proves it is a mental illness, stupid enough to give awards to men for wearing dresses, stupid enough to fall for this crap that you are any sex or race you say you are, so why wouldnt they be stupid enough to think forcing females to share bathrooms with men is a right?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 11:55 AM (iQIUe)

55 "self-identify".

If I self-identify as the owner of your car, I can drive it.

That's the key word, not LGBT, per se. You can't stop anyone including pedophiles from full access to vulnerable women and girls if the legal standard is "self-identify". Stop the brutal virtue signaling and address this.

And underlying all this is the Coercion of the Governed. Not only must the Little Sisters of the Poor be made to provide abortions, they must also share their facilities with men?

These businesses and Democrat politicians should subject their customers and employees to these Bathrooms Without Borders theories first. And they should campaign on and advertise them widely.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 16, 2016 11:55 AM (Ndje9)

56 The NC law does not REQUIRE separate-sex facilities.

It simply ALLOWS them. Each venue decides what best suits the needs of privacy and security.



The Charlotte moonbat ordinance it overturned REQUIRED you to admit
men indiscriminately, obvious men, into women's restrooms, locker rooms,
and showers.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 16, 2016 11:52 AM (T/5A0)

Well, actually as a resident of CLT, Hammer is in Asheville, that is wrong. It allows anyone to use any bathroom that they identify with.
Fines companies that prohibit opposite sex use of bathrooms.

http://tinyurl.com/gvpjq3t

Posted by: Human Rights Committee at April 16, 2016 11:56 AM (jJRIy)

57 Montel and I have followed each other on twitter for a couple of years and his decline has been striking. Now I continue to follow him just to see how far he'll go.

A few days ago he tweeted something about "why do we conservatives" hand elections to Dems, re the NC law. I nearly spit soda through my nose.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2016 11:56 AM (SEXy3)

58 I don't want to be the first to say it, but it looks like this Anti-Apartheid Boycott is rapidly converting North Carolina into a Paradise on Earth. My parents lived there for 11 years, and it warn't fer-off then, so a little nudge might be just enough.

Watch for organized boycotts of NC products, coming soon. New South Africa.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 16, 2016 11:57 AM (xq1UY)

59
I didnt win MegaMillions last night because I am destined to win Powerball tonight which is a measly $82,385,600 after federal taxes.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 11:57 AM (iQIUe)

60 Off HRC sock. I think what we are agreeing Margartia.


Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 11:58 AM (jJRIy)

61 "Watch for organized boycotts of NC products, coming soon. New South Africa."


It's a beacon. Let me see them all. I'll buy like heck.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 16, 2016 11:59 AM (9ym/8)

62 It should be obvious - danglies in one room, no danglies to the other. Mankind has managed for millennia with this method. Now it's wrong? Only in obama's America.

Posted by: BamaBubba at April 16, 2016 11:59 AM (vKTRb)

63
59
I didnt win MegaMillions last night because I am destined to win Powerball tonight which is a measly $82,385,600 after federal taxes.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 11:57 AM (iQIUe)

Hardly worth the trouble.

Posted by: eman at April 16, 2016 11:59 AM (MQEz6)

64 It's going to look great saying "KrispyKreme, Pepsi-Cola, Winston cigarettes hardest hit." Whatever will those companies do if the hipsters stop buying them?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 16, 2016 11:59 AM (xq1UY)

65 As for the crap that Mary Katharine Ham is getting from the Trump fanfolk, very politician who gets as far as a Presidential candidate accumulates a certain number of emotionally committed supporters who seem to have given up their reason and sense of proportion in the worship of their one and only candidate. I am sure that even John Kasich has some of these. It seems, however the Donald Trump has a disproportionately large number of these fanbois and fangurlz.


You can't win an election with nothing but those fanfolk but two terms of Barack Obama demonstrate that having large numbers of them does not mean that a candidate cannot get elected.


I will vote for Donald Trump if he is the Republican candidate because doing everything in my power to keep Hillary Clinton out of the White House is the adult thing to do and I have an obligation to my children to try to not let this country get any more fucked up than it is now. I wish that the more enthusiastic Trump supporters would stop pushing me to look up who the Libertarians are running this year.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 16, 2016 12:00 PM (QHgTq)

66 Hammer? What's up. Cold here, I'll bet the Mts are freezing.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 12:00 PM (jJRIy)

67 Well, since our resident North Carolinian expert on the subject (Mike Hammer) isn't here to say it, I will:

The NC law does not REQUIRE separate-sex facilities.
It simply ALLOWS them. Each venue decides what best suits the needs of privacy and security.

The Charlotte moonbat ordinance it overturned REQUIRED you to admit men indiscriminately, obvious men, into women's restrooms, locker rooms, and showers.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 16, 2016 11:52 AM (T/5A0)

This. Also, the restroom used must match the sex on one's birth certificate. And once someone has surgically undergone "the change", he/she/it generally changes their birth certificate to reflect said change.

Posted by: antisocialist at April 16, 2016 12:00 PM (9n14Y)

68 A revolutionary thought. How about if I support the state staying out of your bedroom, living room and home bathroom and you support keeping your freak flag to yourself or only showing it to like minded adult company rather than insisting on flashing and peeking at wimmen and girls.

And that is a mis-statement of the NC law from what Hammer has said. The law would still allow a business to have free for all bathrooms it only exempted businesses and schools in Charlotte from having to do the free for all after the Charlotte city council passed the trannies rights trump women's concerns law that made free for all bathrooms and showers mandatory.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 16, 2016 12:01 PM (3kUGE)

69 Who's in N.C. these days? SIG? Somebody.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 16, 2016 12:01 PM (9ym/8)

70 So, if you think your "right" to pee where you want overrides the safety and security of children, then you have stepped on a rake and smashed your own nose.

Posted by: eman at April 16, 2016 12:02 PM (MQEz6)

71 156 Well, actually as a resident of CLT, Hammer is in
Asheville, that is wrong. It allows anyone to use any bathroom that they
identify with.
Fines companies that prohibit opposite sex use of bathrooms.

http://tinyurl.com/gvpjq3t


Posted by: Human Rights Committee at April 16, 2016 11:56 AM (jJRIy)

One thing the NC law does is prohibit individual cities from passing their own Gaystapo laws. This is to prevent there being conflicting laws all across the State. So those Charlotte and Ashville laws are null and void.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 16, 2016 12:02 PM (vvmPQ)

72
Seriously, women do not want to be around men in dresses who tend to be well over 6'3' out of their stilettos. They are so much bigger and more violent than women.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 12:02 PM (iQIUe)

73 The Charlotte moonbat ordinance it overturned REQUIRED you to admit
men indiscriminately, obvious men, into women's restrooms, locker rooms,
and showers.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 16, 2016 11:52 AM (T/5A0)
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Well, actually as a resident of CLT, Hammer is in Asheville, that is wrong. It allows anyone to use any bathroom that they identify with.
Fines companies that prohibit opposite sex use of bathrooms.
-------------------

*?*
I'm 'wrong'?

How am I wrong? What is the distinction between Margrita's observation and your own?

Under the Charlotte ordinance, all entities are compelled to allow anyone of either sex to use any facility.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 16, 2016 12:03 PM (9mTYi)

74 MKH's story was about as fluff as you can make one.


Posted by: Nip Sip


Ivanka is a doll, just listening to her. She has also converted to Judaism, the faith of her husband. Her children, Donald's grandchildren, will be raised as Jews.
And Donald is ok with that, which is his business. In that part of his life, his children (by Ivana) all seem to be pretty good people. All working together for Donald's Real Estate company, all pretty smart.

Don't know what the point of MKH column was (fill up space and get paid, I guess), but it was indeed fluff.

I don't hate Donald, but I think he is an odd guy. Very clever in his own way, but is a total unknown as to what he will do if elected. A big crap shoot. Which is what some people want, and I understand that.

I don't hate Ted Cruz, and think he is a brilliant guy, tremendous legal mind. Does not have the common touch, which I think will doom him if he is nominated, which is too bad. I don't want a common, average man to be President. I want someone exceptional. Which is Ted.

I don't hate John Kasich. He lives one street over from me. Some of my neighbors actually know his wife, who is a very nice and pleasant woman. As governor, he's been a big improvement over Ted Strickland, last governor (Democrat). Mostly good, some bad things. Nobody is perfect. People think he is a "liberal" because he backed / forced the Medicare expansion against the will of his own party (which controls the Ohio House and Senate). That was ugly.
But kept the budget balanced, no new taxes (actually some tax cuts), better run state government, employment has been slowly rising for 5 years (only partly due to government policies, obviously).
I don't want him to be President, because he is pretty close to the GOPe. Not a bad man, but the WRONG man for this time.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....tortured American at April 16, 2016 12:03 PM (+1T7c)

75 Who's in N.C. these days? SIG? Somebody.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 16, 2016 12:01 PM (9ym/

Well...I'm here, if that counts...

Posted by: antisocialist at April 16, 2016 12:03 PM (9n14Y)

76 "Well...I'm here, if that counts..."


Well, that does mean a lot, don't think it don't.


I was thinking of industry. I bank with BOA (goddamit) may have some arms from there or looking for some. I smoke. Maybe I should quit.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 16, 2016 12:05 PM (9ym/8)

77 This shit is so totalitarian. I believe that people are free to believe whatever they want to believe even if it defies reality but it crosses a line when you force and harass other people into "believing" your reality defying nonsense. I think a big part of this transgender bathroom movement is to punish people and force them to espouse ideals they don't believe because a certain segment of the population doesn't just want toleration, they want absolute capitulation and get off on violating their opponents freedom on conscience. Those types of assholes are totalitarians. Way to many of them on the left these days.

Posted by: Shtetl G at April 16, 2016 12:05 PM (7jQai)

78 Who's in N.C. these days? SIG? Somebody.
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Ruger

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 16, 2016 12:05 PM (9mTYi)

79 "Ruger"

That was it. My dumb ass.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 16, 2016 12:07 PM (9ym/8)

80 Is Tennessee doing something similar? Heard but didn't catch it all about T- Mobile and a few other companies not going to do business if they did something.

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2016 12:08 PM (Dpy/y)

81 The MKH article would have been cuter and edgier if Ivanka was only twelve years old.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 16, 2016 12:08 PM (T78UI)

82 so to sum up:
a man who wears a dress and wig because he feels that on the inside he's really a woman should be allowed to use women's locker rooms, etc

but looking at a woman who you think is pretty (unless you're Rosie or Ellen) is a violation of the woman's right to something

and Shaun King stills plays Black Spokesman even though his parent were both white, because he believes his real father might have been black

but a goofy little white guy with dreadlocks is guilty of cultural appropriation.

ok, got it.

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at April 16, 2016 12:09 PM (qSIlh)

83 Not talking about you Hammer and you are not.



Here is Pat's reply to WaPo.



http://tinyurl.com/hrd9mjz

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 12:09 PM (jJRIy)

84 I don't hate Donald...

I don't hate Ted...

I don't hate John..

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....tortured American at April 16, 2016 12:03 PM (+1T7c)

Then WTH are you doing here!?

/s, just to be clear

Posted by: tbodie at April 16, 2016 12:09 PM (hQt/L)

85 ""Speaking of the death of civility, conservative columnist Mary Katharine Ham has been targeted by online trolls recently""

You ever consider maybe you're the trolls?

Posted by: Papas & Beer at April 16, 2016 12:10 PM (UeCJN)

86 78
Who's in N.C. these days? SIG? Somebody.

------------



Ruger

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 16, 2016 12:05 PM (9mTYi)

FNH is in SC

http://tinyurl.com/gwc4gc9

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 12:11 PM (jJRIy)

87 Ah, "boycott" politics. Are we looking for companies that have their headquarters in NC, have a product line there, employ a lot of residents? Different ways to spin that, all with barbs and drawbacks.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 16, 2016 12:11 PM (xq1UY)

88 "/s, just to be clear"

Donald sucks.


Ted sucks.


Ohio cocksucker totally sucks.



Oh boy, here we are.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 16, 2016 12:11 PM (9ym/8)

89 The left wins because the proper response to Montel Williams and others who think like him is to both metaphorically and litterly to punch them in the face.

The right does not have the will to really fight the retrograde forces that are destroying the country so it will fall.

It's only a matter of time.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 16, 2016 12:11 PM (bmp2g)

90 Anyone know where I can find the actual text of the CLT ordinance?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2016 12:11 PM (kTF2Z)

91
I think the ladies really stepped in it when they sent a letter to Trump demanding he fire Lewandowski, which is hilarious when all of them hate Trump to begin with. Why wd Trump give a fk what they think? They dont speak for all conservatives or for all female conservatives in the media. How pretentious.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 12:11 PM (iQIUe)

92 Upside, Jane Fonda and Michael Moore have sworn off N. Carolina.

Posted by: Dr. Peter Venkman at April 16, 2016 11:47 AM (+1T7c)


So they're refusing to do business with those they don't agree with?

Wow. I wish I had the freedom to do that.

Posted by: Baronelle Stuzmann at April 16, 2016 12:12 PM (JJ5/6)

93 82
so to sum up:

a man who wears a dress and wig because he feels that on the inside
he's really a woman should be allowed to use women's locker rooms, etc



but looking at a woman who you think is pretty (unless you're Rosie or Ellen) is a violation of the woman's right to something



and Shaun King stills plays Black Spokesman even though his parent
were both white, because he believes his real father might have been
black



but a goofy little white guy with dreadlocks is guilty of cultural appropriation.



ok, got it.

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at April 16, 2016 12:09 PM (qSIlh)

And women reporters demanded to be let in the Men's locker rooms after games, so the guys make a point of walking around buck naked to piss them off.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 12:12 PM (jJRIy)

94 MKH did not write a fluff piece about Ivanka Trump.

She wrote an attack piece on Donald Trump clumsily disguised as a fluff piece about his daughter.

Posted by: eman at April 16, 2016 12:13 PM (MQEz6)

95 "Ah, "boycott" politics. Are we looking for companies that have their headquarters in NC"


I's just looking for any PC companies that are there. Not guns or banks (ugh) or necessary shit.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 16, 2016 12:13 PM (9ym/8)

96 Wow. Look at Drudge.




Fuck the Saudis
-
This is that case of the Muslim that barked in the night. I don't see any, "We didn't do it!"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 16, 2016 12:14 PM (Nwg0u)

97 Aside from regarding Trump as an utter jackass for nearly thirty years, if I'd never heard of him before a year ago I would still be completely repelled by his followers.

Posted by: Epobirs at April 16, 2016 12:14 PM (IdCqF)

98 I think the ladies really stepped in it when they sent a letter to Trump demanding he fire Lewandowski, which is hilarious when all of them hate Trump to begin with. Why wd Trump give a fk what they think? They dont speak for all conservatives or for all female conservatives in the media. How pretentious.

****

I endured a serious cringe when they did that. Just ugh.

If he were the type to care what they think, the entire situation would have been resolved by him without the need for the letter. That they even felt the need to write it, says he does not, in which case it looks like a poorly thought-out strategy on their part. Those points aside, when the hell did "journalists" start demanding that candidates cater to their demands?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 16, 2016 12:14 PM (SEXy3)

99 Ruger's HQ is still Southport CT. PepsiCo, Purchase NY.
So you could boycott those with a clear conscience. Right?
And make sure you let anyone trying to hurt NC know, they're really slapping their friends in the Great Northeast. Should be fun to watch.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 16, 2016 12:14 PM (xq1UY)

100 "and Shaun King stills plays Black Spokesman even though his parent were
both white, because he believes his real father might have been black"

If only there were some sort of... gee, I don't know... maybe a scientific laboratory test for such things? It would really come in handy if there were one.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 16, 2016 12:15 PM (noWW6)

101 CLT ordnance overturned. I believe this is correct. Comes from a fag paper.





http://tinyurl.com/jap2hc8

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 12:16 PM (jJRIy)

102 I mean look, the proper response to obergfell was to tell the SCOTUS to go pound sand.

If the SCOTUS can wipe out the laws and sentiments of 30 states and the federal government with not even the hint of constitutionality of its descisons and the states and people simply bend their knees and move along well, what makes you think anything else the retrograde left dreams up won't be constitutionalized?

As many have said, the republic is dead, what we are living through are its death rattle.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 16, 2016 12:16 PM (bmp2g)

103 I was thinking of industry. I bank with BOA (goddamit) may have some arms from there or looking for some. I smoke. Maybe I should quit.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 16, 2016 12:05 PM (9ym/

Well...lemme see...
Cessna, GE Aviation, General Dynamics, Borg Warner, Bridgestone, Goodyear, Honda, Dana, Mack Trucks, Caterpillar, Pfizer, LabCorp, Merck...

More here - http://bit.ly/1MzIDlf

Posted by: antisocialist at April 16, 2016 12:16 PM (9n14Y)

104 Meanwhile, there was that story a few months back about the university that was setting aside dorm space just for black men. Outside of some right-leaning blogs, did this get any notice? Did any entertainers or corporations threaten to boycott the school? Any concerns voiced by the NAACP or the Obama regime? No? In fact, segregation is a bold new idea in the prog-left.

I suspect that in 30-40 years (when I'm at ground temperature) the new, progressive idea with be separate facilities just for wymyn. OK, more likely it'll be Thunderdome but still....

Posted by: Commissar M at April 16, 2016 12:17 PM (vcIHi)

105 Ok, who used my proxy and got banned with it?

Posted by: t-bird at April 16, 2016 12:17 PM (yddCj)

106 They can keep us out of their bathrooms, but they can't make us stand up to pee!

Posted by: Guest Lecturer Barack Obama at April 16, 2016 12:18 PM (yddCj)

107 You ever consider maybe you're the trolls?


Considering ....
...
...
no.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at April 16, 2016 12:18 PM (rwI+c)

108 105 Ok, who used my proxy and got banned with it?
Posted by: t-bird at April 16, 2016 12:17 PM (yddCj)

yeah i saw that. was a wtf moment.

Posted by: random lurker at April 16, 2016 12:18 PM (+tRIN)

109 I have a friend who does off-hours call at police stations and hospitals as a translator. I got credentialed for the same work because I sub for him when he is on vacation or sick.

A couple of weeks ago he got called into the ER because there was a Honduran "girl" who knew no English. But "she" would not talk to him, was afraid of him. (He's big, at least by Meso-American standards, and very obviously a hetero-cis-male oppressor.) They couldn't find a single female in the place who spoke Spanish, so they called me in.

I am told that either fear of or hostility toward very masculine males is extremely common among trannies.

Soooo, this is one argument I would make against the idiots who want public ladies' rooms to admit men. Trannies who dress like women, look like women, and act like women want privacy and security as much as cis-women do, if not MORE. Separate facilities benefit ALL women, whether they are "women" or women.

(I personally couldn't care less if someone who dresses like a woman, looks like a woman, and acts like a woman uses the ladies' room. How would I know xer DNA? "She" does not present a threat to me. But to say that an obvious male can enter,....forget about it. That is a security nightmare.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 16, 2016 12:18 PM (T/5A0)

110
PANDEMIC!
PANDEMIC!

[I'm re-watching The Wire.]

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 12:19 PM (iQIUe)

111 Here is Pat's reply to WaPo.

http://tinyurl.com/hrd9mjz
------------------

Wow. The comments there are astounding. The ability of the LGBQT harridans to deny common sense is staggering. They are universally devoid of any ability to discriminate between reality and their 'It's all about me' pathology.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 16, 2016 12:19 PM (9mTYi)

112 I don't think BOA is going to be leaving CLT. The largest stockholder, non pension fund, lives here and is a VERY conservative guy even though he use to be President of UNC system.



Was my father in laws tennis partner.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 12:19 PM (jJRIy)

113 Seriously, How many Women who "identify" as Men are gonna use the Mens room? I mean do they want to stand over the urinal and pee?

Posted by: donna at April 16, 2016 12:19 PM (O2RFr)

114 What a horrible night that was. I got a panic attack at 2 AM. I thought I was having cardiac arrest and I only got about 3 hours of sleep the whole night. I wish my insurance carrier's website didn't suck so much because I feel like I need a checkup now

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 16, 2016 12:20 PM (6FqZa)

115 Excuse me. I have a brilliant op-ed in the Wall Street Journal about the rigged, disgusting system of the RNC that cheated me out of my entitlement. Have you read it?

Me neither.

Posted by: Donald F. Troop, Ice Rink Mgr. at April 16, 2016 12:20 PM (Ndje9)

116
So, what happened to The Great NorthEast Heroin Epidemic of 2014-2016.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 12:20 PM (iQIUe)

117 "Cessna, GE Aviation, General Dynamics, Borg Warner, Bridgestone, Goodyear, Honda, Dana, Mack Trucks, Caterpillar, Pfizer, LabCorp, Merck... "


That's it. I won't buy any of those things.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 16, 2016 12:21 PM (9ym/8)

118 "University students are struggling to read entire books"

-
The entire emphasis on literacy and the idea that university students should read text books discriminates against the alternatively knowledged.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 16, 2016 12:21 PM (Nwg0u)

119 Consider it a thrill. Even if you "identify" as a woman, you get to use the men's room!

Posted by: t-bird at April 16, 2016 12:22 PM (yddCj)

120 "Ok, who used my proxy and got banned with it?"

No shit? What kinda asshole.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 16, 2016 12:23 PM (9ym/8)

121 We've been promised that the House of Saud will keel over for at least two decades since I've been paying attention. Can't happen soon enough to those oil ticks

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 16, 2016 12:23 PM (6FqZa)

122 I wish my insurance carrier's website didn't suck so much because I feel like I need a checkup now

Some things are just worth spending money on. Your life, for example, may be on that list.

Posted by: t-bird at April 16, 2016 12:24 PM (yddCj)

123 @118 A yakky way of knowledge?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 16, 2016 12:24 PM (xq1UY)

124 @111

Shit, I went back and read the comments. Fcking crazy people.



"Our sex is in our mind, not our body. We are who we think we are"




Yeah, think yourself not needing to pee and get out of my bathroom asshole.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 12:24 PM (jJRIy)

125 That's it. I won't buy any of those things.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 16, 2016 12:21 PM (9ym/

Now you're talkin'!!!

Posted by: antisocialist at April 16, 2016 12:24 PM (9n14Y)

126 Ruger's HQ is still Southport CT. PepsiCo, Purchase NY.
So you could boycott those with a clear conscience. Right?
And make sure you let anyone trying to hurt NC know, they're really slapping their friends in the Great Northeast. Should be fun to watch.
Posted by: Stringer Davis
----------------

I am amused by the fact that PayPal was so selfrighteously incensed that they canceled plans to site a facility in Charlotte.

The Charlotte City Council, and 'LGBQT Chamber of Commerce' shot themselves in the foot.

I mean, PayPal pulled out in, what, a show of solidarity?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 16, 2016 12:25 PM (9mTYi)

127 116
So, what happened to The Great NorthEast Heroin Epidemic of 2014-2016.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 12:20 PM (iQIUe)

Well, my ex-town in NJ popped 10 people with 1,400 folds last month. Suspect it's coming out of Paterson.

Posted by: random lurker at April 16, 2016 12:25 PM (+tRIN)

128 Pay Pal got a better deal from another city. The ordnance was only an excuse.



They are CA assholes.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 12:26 PM (jJRIy)

129 "Now you're talkin'!!!"


I'm just sayin'. Trucks, airplanes, condoms.


Done for now.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 16, 2016 12:26 PM (9ym/8)

130 No shit? What kinda asshole.

I seem to get rotated thru a fixed set of maybe six proxies. I'm visible for the moment, but my old "n2zzq" or whatever has been banned.

Posted by: t-bird at April 16, 2016 12:26 PM (yddCj)

131 and Shaun King stills plays Black Spokesman even though his parent
were both white, because he believes his real father might have been
black



but a goofy little white guy with dreadlocks is guilty of cultural appropriation.

-
White people don't have culture. Hell, they're barely conscious.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 16, 2016 12:26 PM (Nwg0u)

132 Drudge also has a link to a Monica interview, I guess for the same reason Jahrlse Chonnos used to repost the throbbing memo all the time. "I used to matter!"

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 16, 2016 12:26 PM (6FqZa)

133 Jenny Pickerill, a professor in environmental geography at the University of Sheffield, told Times Higher Education magazine: "Students struggle with set texts, saying the language or concepts are too hard".
Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at April 16, 2016 11:26 AM (qSIlh)


Well,"Environmental Geography" ain't exactly a STEM program, either. Closer in rigor to education.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 16, 2016 12:26 PM (UsLZp)

134 I mean, PayPal pulled out in, what, a show of solidarity?
Posted by: Mike Hammer,
-----------------------------

Moral Preening?, or Virtue Signaling?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 16, 2016 12:27 PM (9mTYi)

135 131 and Shaun King stills plays Black Spokesman even though his parent
were both white, because he believes his real father might have been black

So his mom cuckolded his dad? Great.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 16, 2016 12:28 PM (0mRoj)

136 "I seem to get rotated thru a fixed set of maybe six proxies. I'm visible for the moment, but my old "n2zzq" or whatever has been banned."


IT provider? I cycle through many different connections a day and no problem.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 16, 2016 12:29 PM (9ym/8)

137 So his mom cuckolded his dad? Great.

So Shaun King claims anyway. The next family gathering is going to be damn awkward.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 16, 2016 12:29 PM (6FqZa)

138 113 Seriously, How many Women who "identify" as Men are gonna use the Mens room? I mean do they want to stand over the urinal and pee?
Posted by: donna at April 16, 2016 12:19 PM (O2RFr)

===========
Ran across a website a couple of years ago where a woman documented her surgery to become a man. Had her breasts cut off and other shit. Reviewed products that allowed her to pee standing up. It's a fake penis that she stuck in her pants with a cup to catch urine. There are a number of these being marketed. All so she cd pretend she is a man. smh

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 12:29 PM (iQIUe)

139 "Our sex is in our mind, not our body. We are who we think we are"

I've been trying to convince Kate Upton that I'm who I think I am and not who her lying eyes tell her.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 16, 2016 12:29 PM (Nwg0u)

140 Nood.

Posted by: HH at April 16, 2016 12:30 PM (DrCtv)

141 AOP, spoken like a true (actual) geographer. That field was being made a monkey of while I was completing my required credits. Worst part, physical geography got subsumed into Earth Sciences, and can't even go by its original name any more.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 16, 2016 12:30 PM (xq1UY)

142 "University students are struggling to read entire books"

Historians in the future: And that is how the 2nd Dark Ages began.

Posted by: tbodie at April 16, 2016 12:30 PM (hQt/L)

143 " I mean, PayPal pulled out in, what, a show of solidarity? "


And PayPal can be replaced so fast.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 16, 2016 12:30 PM (9ym/8)

144 t's a fake penis that she stuck in her pants with a
cup to catch urine. There are a number of these being marketed. All so
she cd pretend she is a man. smh

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 12:29 PM (iQIUe)

And, he/she thinks he/she is perfectly sane.
Sad.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 12:31 PM (jJRIy)

145 So Shaun King claims anyway. The next family gathering is going to be damn awkward.

At Thanksgiving there are going to be a bunch of turkeys.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 16, 2016 12:31 PM (Nwg0u)

146 Our sex is in our mind, not our body.

Translation is funny. You put that into Latin, and then back into English, and it comes out "We are f*cked in the head."

Latin. The Universal Language. Always unearths a hidden truth.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 16, 2016 12:31 PM (xq1UY)

147 >>Soooo, this is one argument I would make against the idiots who want
public ladies' rooms to admit men. Trannies who dress like women, look
like women, and act like women want privacy and security as much as
cis-women do, if not MORE. Separate facilities benefit ALL women,
whether they are "women" or women.

I'm sure that's true, and a lot of transgenders live on the edge - drugs, prostitution, etc.. However, the problem is that the LGBT activists have decided a separate unisex bathroom is unacceptable - they want to be in the girl's room/locker room/changing room or else you are stigmatizing them (kinda like how civil unions suddenly became not enough). This happened w/a CO boy who sued his school to be in the girls room - he and his family said the unisex loo was just not good enough.

Also, if you've watched the video over at American Thinker, you see that there are numerous predators - scary dudes who rape, assault and murder, who dress as women to get at their prey, or they are sexually confused in addition to being bad dudes. So, there is overlap of the trans and sexual predator communities.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 16, 2016 12:31 PM (NOIQH)

148 I still like to know why they would allow trannies into the military when they have to take so many drugs for "their well being." I really cant believe that a man feels good on female hormones

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 12:32 PM (iQIUe)

149 fake penis that she stuck in her pants with a
cup to catch urine.

-
Urine luck!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 16, 2016 12:32 PM (Nwg0u)

150 Same-sex/gay/TG goes nowhere. They can't reproduce.

In real serious times that shit is out the window. You have a penis or a vagina. Period. You do as nature intended.


I hope I haven't offended anyone.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 16, 2016 11:54 AM (9ym/


I'm thinking a sticker campaign would be fun: printed plastic sticker, with a combined male/female sign (the circle with both arrow and cross emblem), and the words: "Freaky deaky? No leaky!" Slap 'em on ladies' room doors. Doubt the wimmenz would mind.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 16, 2016 12:34 PM (UsLZp)

151 What "Kreplach" (@102) said...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at April 16, 2016 12:34 PM (5csB/)

152 So, there is overlap of the trans and sexual predator communities.
Posted by: Lizzy
---------------

Thus, the chief proponent of the Charlotte ordinance, is a convicted child molester. There isn't much mention of that, is there?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 16, 2016 12:34 PM (9mTYi)

153 149
fake penis that she stuck in her pants with a

cup to catch urine.



-

Urine luck!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 16, 2016 12:32 PM (Nwg0u)

THREAD WINNER

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 12:34 PM (jJRIy)

154 77--- I think a big part of this transgender bathroom movement is to punish people and force them to espouse ideals they don't believe because a certain segment of the population doesn't just want toleration, they want absolute capitulation and get off on violating their opponents freedom on conscience. Those types of assholes are totalitarians.
Posted by: Shtetl G at April 16, 2016 12:05 PM (7jQai)
-------------
BINGO!
It's a power trip of the highest order.

I only pray that NC holds firm. (I have only slim hopes of that.) The more that people cave, the more the power freaks are emboldened.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 16, 2016 12:35 PM (T/5A0)

155 This is the article that triggered the release of so much venom. Throughout the article Ham praises one of Donald Trump's daughters, pointing out the positive qualities she possesses that, in Ham's opinion, Mr. Trump lacks.

That's pretty friggin low ... using someone's own child against him - and without the consent of the child in this attack.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 16, 2016 12:35 PM (zc3Db)

156 Just wanted to stop in and mention a few "God incidences" which happened to me today and yesterday yesterday. God incidences are what other people who are not people of faith call happy "coincidences."

I wanted to go on a short retreat before I started my interim assignment which begins tomorrow, but the retreat center I usually go to was closed for renovations, and the other one I sometimes visit was a little to far for me to go. So I went a local t hotel instead, During dinner last night I was sitting two tables away from a man and his family . The older man turned out to be a retired Nazarene pastor and seminary professor from Idaho and his family. I told them I was going to a conflicted church and asked for prayers. When they finished up dinner he come by he lied his hand on my shoulder and they all said prayers for me and the church and the former pastor.

Today I was an breakfast and there were two women there. One was a clergywoman and one was a theology professor and they were staying over in order to give a workshop for a local Episcopal Diocese. They said that they would pray for me and the church and the former pastor as well.

These were God incidences and I feel so blessed by them!.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 16, 2016 12:35 PM (w4NZ8)

157 I still like to know why they would allow trannies into the military when they have to take so many drugs for "their well being." I really cant believe that a man feels good on female hormones
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!
------------------

It's only fair.
Soon, we will celebrate the first tranny General or Admiral.

Posted by: Barky at April 16, 2016 12:36 PM (9mTYi)

158 Keep the government out of our bedrooms and into our bathrooms where it belongs!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 16, 2016 12:38 PM (Nwg0u)

159 they want absolute capitulation and get off on violating their opponents freedom on conscience. Those types of assholes are totalitarians.
Posted by: Shtet
---------------

It is absolutely about control.
And, there will be no end to their demands, no end to the war that they are conducting on civil society. Having achieved one goal, they move on to another.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 16, 2016 12:39 PM (9mTYi)

160
Feminists are nothing but lefty extremists Why else would they put up with this bullshit of men in women's bathrooms and being able to compete in woman's sports and in contests specifically for women?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 12:39 PM (iQIUe)

161 fake penis that she stuck in her pants with a


cup to catch urine.





-


Urine luck!



Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 16, 2016 12:32 PM (Nwg0u)

THREAD WINNER


Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 12:34 PM (jJRIy)

Yeah. Trade Mark that now. If nothing else you can sell a piss-jug made for women on long distance drives...More comfortable than Depends

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 16, 2016 12:39 PM (T78UI)

162 I'd elaborate further, it's one thing to say that a child is messed up and an idiot and the parent is, therefore, responsible and should be viewed as a bad parent. It's quite another to try and praise the child as so much better than the parent and try to cause strife within the family and to pit sides representing the parent and child against each other. I really can't think of a more despicable sort of intellectual attack on someone.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 16, 2016 12:39 PM (zc3Db)

163 >> still like to know why they would allow trannies into the military when
they have to take so many drugs for "their well being."


You also have to factor in that the transgenders have a 40%+ attempted suicide rate. These are not happy people, which is understandable if they really believe that their body betrays their true self. We can empathize with them, but I don't think putting people with these issues in a unit is going to help overall morale, team work, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 16, 2016 12:40 PM (NOIQH)

164
So does a tg kid have the right to go into the boy's locker room and change for gym and shower after gym class?

Why not? If they want to go crazy, let's really go effing crazy.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 12:40 PM (iQIUe)

165 An an earlier devotional from "Holy Land Moments":

Fortify with faith:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/h9dndw2

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 16, 2016 12:40 PM (w4NZ8)

166 Oh for the love of God. Guess why your taxes are due on the 18th instead of the 15th?



DC passed a law celebrating "Emancipation Day" I am not making this up.





http://tinyurl.com/hkkb5mu

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 12:41 PM (jJRIy)

167 "God incidences"......

As always FenelonSpoke, thanks for sharing.

And i am so going to borrow that phrase, but not in a Ten Commandments way.

Posted by: tbodie at April 16, 2016 12:41 PM (hQt/L)

168 Read the MKH article...


Meh.

This would be like her writing about the daughter of some Joe Blow car salesman who is successful but has a flamboyant personality-

as a way to attack her successful father.

Ivanka has a normal person's personality....duh. She's an average (though beautiful woman) who would be living an average life if she were anyone else's kid.

Thus she does not have a media or sales "persona"/"personality.


In it's own way this is really just the flip side of the coin of the attacks on Palin through her Down's child.

Unimpressed and disappointed in MKH as I would be in anyone who tried to attack her thru her children.

This election maka everyone-a crazy.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 16, 2016 12:41 PM (2rmvw)

169 I still like to know why they would allow trannies into the military when they have to take so many drugs for "their well being."

-
There's a scene in A Bridge Too Far where a limey risks his life and is eventually killed trying to recover an air dropped supply cannister revealed to contain red berets. Now it'll be little bottles marked Walgreens.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 16, 2016 12:43 PM (Nwg0u)

170 @152: That reminds me... Wonder if they still celebrate "Larry Brinkin Day" in San Francrisco.

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at April 16, 2016 12:43 PM (5csB/)

171 Oh for the love of God. Guess why your taxes are due on the 18th instead of the 15th?

DC passed a law celebrating "Emancipation Day" I am not making this up.

http://tinyurl.com/hkkb5mu
Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 12:41 PM (jJRIy)


Yep. I just found out about that last night. We were talking about the new tax date and we were all wondering what the story was. I said that it couldn't be anything real since if there was an anniversary of something on April 15th then tax day would always be put off. The funny part is that the Emancipation stuff is the 16th ... but that's a Saturday, so they moved it to the 15th, on tax day. LOL.

I think we can look forward to the federal holiday of Kwaanzaaaa this year. So, there's that.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 16, 2016 12:44 PM (zc3Db)

172 "These are not happy people,..."
Understatement of the decade.
They are FUBAR.
They are about .001% of the population, and yet we all must jump thru hoops on their account.

Posted by: navybrat at April 16, 2016 12:44 PM (8QGte)

173 Ran across a website a couple of years ago where a
woman documented her surgery to become a man. Had her breasts cut off
and other shit. Reviewed products that allowed her to pee standing up.
It's a fake penis that she stuck in her pants with a cup to catch
urine. There are a number of these being marketed. All so she cd
pretend she is a man. smh

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 12:29 PM (iQIUe)


But she self-identifies as well-adjusted and sane, so there's that.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 12:45 PM (oKE6c)

174 I remember when Montel would berate guys on his show for cheating on their wives.
Sure enough, what does he do?
I also knew he was a leftist loon when I learned he was on Air America.
It's mind blowing to me how the left has forced certain people to think a certain way.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 16, 2016 12:45 PM (hVdx9)

175 So does a tg kid have the right to go into the boy's locker room and change for gym and shower after gym class?

Why not? If they want to go crazy, let's really go effing crazy.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!
--------------

The Charlotte Ordinance compelled that. ALL facilities available to ANYONE.

Imagine that your female child is attending a summer camp where there are some male counselors. Guess what? By the Charlotte ordinance, the men are free to shower with the little girls.

But, Montel Williams, et al, are perfectly willing to accept that so that a tiny, tiny minority of sick people do not have their twisted feelings hurt.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 16, 2016 12:45 PM (9mTYi)

176 I've got an idea for a kid's book, My Tranny Granny.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 16, 2016 12:46 PM (Nwg0u)

177 re 143 " I mean, PayPal pulled out in, what, a show of solidarity? "

And PayPal can be replaced so fast.


calling the Koch Brothers...

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at April 16, 2016 12:47 PM (qSIlh)

178 170 @152: That reminds me... Wonder if they still celebrate "Larry Brinkin Day" in San Francrisco.
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at April 16, 2016 12:43 PM (5csB/)



I'm amazed he's not the mayor.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 12:48 PM (oKE6c)

179 "These are not happy people,..."
Understatement of the decade.
They are FUBAR.
They are about .001% of the population, and yet we all must jump thru hoops on their account.
Posted by: navybrat
------------------

The Progs screaming about NC HB2 don't care about the trannies either. There are not enough of them to be meaningful. What the Progs care about is tool to further their influence on society.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 16, 2016 12:48 PM (9mTYi)

180 "So, what happened to The Great NorthEast Heroin Epidemic of 2014-2016."

Nationwide, baby!

We've had a big spate of smack overdoses here in NorCal.

Some nasty cynics might refer to it as chlorinating the gene pool.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 16, 2016 12:48 PM (noWW6)

181 Wasn't your granny, a T. ranny, AW?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at April 16, 2016 12:48 PM (5csB/)

182 We've had a big spate of smack overdoses here in NorCal.

Some nasty cynics might refer to it as chlorinating the gene pool.


Posted by: torquewrench at April 16, 2016 12:48 PM (noWW6)


Why are you looking in my direction?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 12:49 PM (oKE6c)

183 I know someone who had a brief affair with Montel. White woman in the media. Very attractive, however kind of white trash, married I think three times, with kids from each guy.

Every time I see Montel, I think of her. She was nice, but I don't want to think about anyone getting it on with Montel.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at April 16, 2016 12:49 PM (AHDxb)

184 "suing religious people into bankruptcy."

1) Religious people are the only people who are solvent.

2) Left is organized by gay lawyers. ie socialist

It's a money making scheme.

Posted by: epiphany at April 16, 2016 12:50 PM (CRXed)

185 ....I don't want him to be President, because he is pretty close to the GOPe. Not a bad man, but the WRONG man for this time.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....tortured American at April 16, 2016 12:03 PM (+1T7c)


Nicely stated. The entire Horde should read and reflect on that. As a non-citizen and non-voter (really, heh) my opinion is obviously irrelevant, but it seems to me that those who hate the GOPe, and with good reason, have everything to be happy about. Their chosen destructors, Trump and Cruz, are running a close one-two in the primary, and what remain of the GOPe candidates are trailing far behind in the dust.


The next hurdle will be if convention day arrives with neither of the two having achieved the magical 1237 delegates. If so, I hope they can set aside their differences (which are mostly theater, anyways) and enter the convention as a united front with an overwhelming delegate count.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 16, 2016 12:50 PM (UsLZp)

186 Posted by: tbodie at April 16, 2016 12:41 PM (hQt/L)

Please feel free to use it. :^)

And the waiter-who was handsome smiling fellow from Jamaica turned out to be a person of faith and he shared how a God incidence changed his life for the good and blessed other people as well. It just involved his reaching out in love and concern to a married couple who were visiting a hotel he used to work at. You never know how what you do or say can be used by God for the good to bless you or them!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 16, 2016 12:50 PM (w4NZ8)

187 Anonosaurus Wrecks, that makes me think of that episode of the Cleveland Show- A brown Thanksgiving

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 16, 2016 12:50 PM (hVdx9)

188 A friend at work was beside herself with elation at the Obergefell decision.

I asked her if she thought she'd be as happy when the decision was used to attack gender-specific bathrooms.

She said, "You're insane."

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 16, 2016 12:50 PM (eHpnh)

189
It was an attack piece on Trump that used his daughter as a club.

Posted by: eman


Yep. Damming with faint praise is still damming.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 16, 2016 12:51 PM (e347P)

190 Holy "White Dick Rules", Batman! I've just read San Francrisco gave Larry Brinkin a whole bleeding week!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at April 16, 2016 12:51 PM (5csB/)

191 I still like to know why they would allow trannies into the military when they have to take so many drugs for "their well being."
-----------------------
I can remember when epilepsy, even when completely controlled by drugs, disqualified you from service. Perhaps it still does (???) The reasoning was that military service might require you to serve in locations or situations where the drugs were unavailable.

I would think the same rule would apply to transpeeps.
(There's also disqualification for psychosis, but we aren't allowed to say that.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 16, 2016 12:54 PM (T/5A0)

192
Oh, yeah, forgot about all the ODs in Sacramento.

Heard that whenever there is an OD, the junkies want to buy that dope because it is so strong. So there is a rush on it but the idiots still dont know how to cut it down to make it not kill them.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 12:54 PM (iQIUe)

193 A recent paper in England declared pedophilia to be a sexual orientation.

Get ready for the left to attack age of consent laws.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 16, 2016 12:55 PM (eHpnh)

194 She said, "You're insane."
Posted by: Cloyd Freud,

It's always insane.
Until it happens.
And then, SHUT UP!!!

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 16, 2016 12:56 PM (e347P)

195 188 A friend at work was beside herself with elation at the Obergefell decision.

I asked her if she thought she'd be as happy when the decision was used to attack gender-specific bathrooms.

She said, "You're insane."
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 16, 2016 12:50 PM (eHpnh)
------------------------------
I hope you reminded her of that.
Nicely, of course.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 16, 2016 12:57 PM (T/5A0)

196 188 A friend at work was beside herself with elation at the Obergefell decision.

I asked her if she thought she'd be as happy when the decision was used to attack gender-specific bathrooms.

She said, "You're insane."

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 16, 2016 12:50 PM (eHpnh)



Welcome to my world.


Over the years, as each leftist initiative gained traction, I've said "Next up will be ..." and people rolled their eyes at the nutjob. (E.g., when fruits were agitating for "tolerance," saying that they didn't want to interfere with marriage, just wanted to queer off in peace, I shook my head: "Nope. They'll want marriage next," to the derision of those who scoffed at the tired and broken "slippery slope" fallacy. Yet ... here we are.)


It is in the nature of movements to go progressively (?) further and further out (as would-be leaders move out there to break out of the pack), only to snap back later. I call it the "French Revolution effect."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 12:57 PM (oKE6c)

197 Ralph Peters has a good article on the Saudis in the NYPost.

Posted by: ThunderB at April 16, 2016 12:58 PM (p29tk)

198 @118 A yakky way of knowledge?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 16, 2016 12:24 PM (xq1UY)


ISWYDT

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 16, 2016 12:58 PM (UsLZp)

199 The Devil's Going Down to North Carolina. Charlie Daniels refuses to cancel.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 16, 2016 12:59 PM (Nwg0u)

200 193 A recent paper in England declared pedophilia to be a sexual orientation.
Get ready for the left to attack age of consent laws.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 16, 2016 12:55 PM (eHpnh)



That was the prediction after they got faux marriage. Next up: legalizing pederasty. It's as certain (that they'll at least try) as the sun rising in the east tomorrow morning.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 01:00 PM (oKE6c)

201 Polk salad Annie, the gators got your tranny

Posted by: Tony Joe Black at April 16, 2016 01:01 PM (k4M/B)

202 Idle Saturday pondering:

I believe in turning things over to the Almighty, asking God to guide and direct me to doing God's will, and like that. Better Your Will than mine, oh Lord!

The more fouled up things get, the less I seem to be able to find answers or do right, the more I seek God's plan, depend on the Spirit for help, inSpiration, whatever-- something! Seeking the "still small voice" that whispers, "this is the Way."

The problem I have is the "answer" I seem to get.

There's a tale - pretty sure I got this from Baba Ram Dass (the Be Here Now guy):

A Great King has a flash of spiritual insight one day, and decides he's going to submit himself to God. To do so, the King leaves his mighty palace, in all his regalia and, with the usual royal entourage in tow, travels to the nearby mud hut, residence of the Guru, who lives humbly and has nothing but the blanket he wears.

The King enters the Guru's hut, kneels before the Guru, handing the Guru his scepter of power, and saying, "Oh, Guru, I am as nothing. I give all my kingdom to you." The Guru smiles, takes the scepter, and thanks the King, accepting his gift.

Then, the Guru hands the scepter back to the King, and says, "Now, you run it for me." ♥

The upshot is, of course, all kingdoms are already God's.

Always liked that story, but in terms of my own attempt to turn over my life to the Almighty, it's all well and good if you have a clue how to run your kingdom. Not so much if you really need guidance or assistance. God may be saying, you have all you need already, yet if things keep going awry, where is the confusion? I mean: whut? Maybe the answer is "not yet"?

*shrug* Meanwhile, what can one do but keep on keepin' on?

Posted by: mindful webworker - perpetually perplexed at April 16, 2016 01:01 PM (G0G8s)

203 194 She said, "You're insane."
Posted by: Cloyd Freud,
It's always insane.
Until it happens.
And then, SHUT UP!!!
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 16, 2016 12:56 PM (e347P)



Seriously, the reaction you get when you remind them? They roll their eyes - again - and dismiss that as old news, nothing to get excited about.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 01:01 PM (oKE6c)

204 That was the prediction after they got faux marriage. Next up: legalizing pederasty. It's as certain (that they'll at least try) as the sun rising in the east tomorrow morning.
Posted by: Jay Guevara
-------------------

Yup.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 16, 2016 01:02 PM (9mTYi)

205 Pope takes home 12 Mohammedans. Someone needs to explain to him that they want to kill him.



What a douche bag.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 01:02 PM (jJRIy)

206
Here's a question concerning the MKH article--if The Donald lacks the positive qualities his daughter possesses, who taught her said qualities?

Just curious here.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 16, 2016 01:03 PM (P/8aq)

207
Exclusive undercover video of Michelle Fields training for her journalism career

https://goo.gl/RE8nzS

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 01:03 PM (iQIUe)

208 193 A recent paper in England declared pedophilia to be a sexual orientation.
Get ready for the left to attack age of consent laws.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 16, 2016 12:55 PM (eHpnh)
----------------
I used to think that pedophilia would be a hard nut to crack for the Left because the Left is so dominated by women, most of whom are mothers.

But after this NC stuff, I'm not so sure.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 16, 2016 01:03 PM (T/5A0)

209 206

Here's a question concerning the MKH article--if The Donald lacks
the positive qualities his daughter possesses, who taught her said
qualities?

Just curious here.


Posted by: irongrampa at April 16, 2016 01:03 PM (P/8aq)

I'll take English Nanny for $1000, Alex.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 01:04 PM (jJRIy)

210 A recent paper in England declared pedophilia to be a sexual orientation.

Get ready for the left to attack age of consent laws.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 16, 2016 12:55 PM (eHpnh)



I'm sure that has nothing to do with the importation of a huge number of people who's main prophet and founder of their religion was a pedophile.

Nope. Nothing at all.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 16, 2016 01:04 PM (2rmvw)

211 The internet: Where people behave like themselves.

And we're surprised there's so much a$$holery to be found?

Come on, people. We're not that naive.


Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2016 11:34 AM (TOk1P)

So you all are moving from the "bitches deserve it/the other guy is doing it too" defense of Trump and his supporters to the "this is just generic internet nastiness" defense... interesting

Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 01:05 PM (nUJM6)

212 "It's mind blowing to me how the left has forced certain people to think a certain way."

The certain people alluded to pay for the privilege. Really a case of having it too easy. If a person has to work to eat it sharpens the mind.

On average the people of the left haven't done anything worthwhile. Ever. That causes mental illness. People (on average) have a biological need to feel important and needed.

They (the crazies) will mostly pull themselves together when the crisis is publicly acknowledged. There are reports of crazies doing this (pulling themselves together) from WW2 era. We are currently in the Great Recession and the bread lines are EBT cards. Big crisis is next.

Posted by: epiphany at April 16, 2016 01:05 PM (CRXed)

213 205 Pope takes home 12 Mohammedans. Someone needs to explain to him that they want to kill him.
What a douche bag.
Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 01:02 PM (jJRIy)



So the Pope Frank problem may be self-solving.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 01:06 PM (oKE6c)

214 When BOTH campaigns devolve to character assassination (lying Ted... Crazy Trump)... it sets a tone....




You get a lot of angry people, lashing out....

Posted by: Don Quixote at April 16, 2016 11:44 AM (qf6WZ)

Both campaigns aren't doing that... that is all Trump.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 01:07 PM (nUJM6)

215 The Devil's Going Down to North Carolina. Charlie Daniels refuses to cancel.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

ISWYDT, but he's from my home state of Tennessee, so it would be "up". Depending on his tour schedule, of course, then it might be... Oh fvck it, I'm ranting, carry on...

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 16, 2016 01:07 PM (e347P)

216 So the Pope Frank problem may be self-solving.


Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 01:06 PM (oKE6c)

Good point

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 01:07 PM (jJRIy)

217 >>Get ready for the left to attack age of consent laws.

They've always been about sexualizing children - why they've been so insistent that they start teaching sex ed in kindergarten, etc. Gotta get at them while they're young and pliable. It's sick.

Bookworm figured out the endgame - really good read if you've not seen it before:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/z7sqprq

Posted by: Lizzy at April 16, 2016 01:08 PM (NOIQH)

218 >>>>> *shrug* Meanwhile, what can one do but keep on keepin' on?
Posted by: mindful webworker - perpetually perplexed at April 16, 2016 01:01 PM (G0G8s)
-----
We should be best friends. I feel exactly like you do all the time.

Posted by: L, Elle at April 16, 2016 01:08 PM (2x3L+)

219
Pope takes home 12 Mohammedans. Someone needs to explain to him that they want to kill him.

12 Mohammedans and 2 Corinthians walk into a Vatican...

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 16, 2016 01:08 PM (k4M/B)

220 Pope takes home 12 Mohammedans. Someone needs to explain to him that they want to kill him.



What a douche bag.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 01:02 PM (jJRIy)


Hey, maybe he'll get lucky.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 16, 2016 01:08 PM (UsLZp)

221 ISWYDT, but he's from my home state of Tennessee, so
it would be "up". Depending on his tour schedule, of course, then it
might be... Oh fvck it, I'm ranting, carry on...

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 16, 2016 01:07 PM (e347P)

It would be East, or right, can not be up. See map.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 01:09 PM (jJRIy)

222 I have thought for a number of year's that Donald Trump's kids were a real tribute to their mothers and to Donald himself.

There were a number of golfing specials featuring Trump a few years back, and I always enjoyed his son's participation. It seemed like there was a lot of mutual care and respect.

Maybe people can knock them - I'm not sure exactly for what, but think about it. Growing up a Trump - on the surface - would seem to be a backdrop that might produce kids that would make Justin Bieber and the Kardashians seem like iconic role models.

Posted by: RM at April 16, 2016 01:09 PM (U3LtS)

223 "defense of Trump"

Trump needs no defense. Trump has won.

Trump must be put in as POTUS to preserve the sinecures of both the GOPe and the Democrats.

It would be a disaster for them if he isn't.

Why? Because he has publicly shown that US is no better at picking its President than Iran. See Scott Adams (dilbert.com) for a concise explanation.

Posted by: ??? at April 16, 2016 01:10 PM (CRXed)

224 Here's a question concerning the MKH article--if The Donald lacks the positive qualities his daughter possesses, who taught her said qualities?

Just curious here.
Posted by: irongrampa


The ex wife(s), and that is according to him.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 16, 2016 01:10 PM (e347P)

225 I used to think that pedophilia would be a hard nut
to crack for the Left because the Left is so dominated by women, most of
whom are mothers.



But after this NC stuff, I'm not so sure.





Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 16, 2016 01:03 PM (T/5A0)

Women comprise a significant disproportion of the Left (in terms of voting, etc.) but they don't drive the leftist bus, and frankly (no offense), being highly socialized, are easily led. If the cool girl in high school does something, they all end up doing it in short order, and the pattern continues thereafter. All those driving the leftist bus have to do is put a bell on an iconic figure, have the media trumpet her as the new reality, and leftist women will follow.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 01:10 PM (oKE6c)

226 Both campaigns aren't doing that... that is all Trump.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 01:07 PM (nUJM6)


Eyes, scales. Some disassembly required.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 16, 2016 01:10 PM (UsLZp)

227 Maybe people can knock them - I'm not sure exactly for what, but think about it. Growing up a Trump - on the surface - would seem to be a backdrop that might produce kids that would make Justin Bieber and the Kardashians seem like iconic role models.
Posted by: RM at April 16, 2016 01:09 PM (U3LtS)



It's amazing that they haven't ended up like the Kennedys.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 01:11 PM (oKE6c)

228 " There is ample precedent in American history for the winners of close elections to unite the country. This controversy...as difficult as it might seem to us, is nothing compared to the election of 1800, where Thomas Jefferson finally prevailed after 36 ballots in the Congress, if my history serves me correctly. We've all been getting a refresher course on these earlier elections. John Kennedy's election was by a narrower margin in the popular vote than the 300,000 margin that currently exists here. And yet, he was able to unify the country in a relatively short time after the election. Jefferson's healing speech in March of 1801 is one of the most notable in the history of the presidency: "We are all Republicans. We are all Federalists."So the resiliency of our democracy is often underestimated, but it is always proven out in the end. ... I have urged no one associated with my cause to ever charge that the other side is trying to steal the election or take the result away in an unethical way. I think such language is damaging to our republic, especially in a time of enhanced vulnerability and civic tension. In response, to those who have proposed matching demonstration for demonstration for demonstration, and crowd for crowd, I have counseled patience and forbearance."

Trump's WSJ op-ed? Nope. Al Gore in the NYTimes, Nov.26, 2000

Frikkin' Mr. Sore/Loserman more of a patriotic statesman than Blonde Obama.

Wow.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 16, 2016 01:12 PM (Ndje9)

229 We are truly bereft of great spiritual leaders today.
Consider the generation of Bonhoeffer, Solzhenitsyn, John Paul II, Mother Teresa, Benedict, Billy Graham.

*sigh*

Well, I guess there have always been years of feast and years of famine.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 16, 2016 01:12 PM (T/5A0)

230 "When BOTH campaigns devolve to character assassination"

Yeah, its weird.

It's amazing that just out of thin air suddenly both campaigns are using words like Lyin' Ted, or Little Marco, or comparing Carson to a child molester.

Its weird that this should just happen, with no one person being to blame, or starting this.

I blame society.

Posted by: Harun at April 16, 2016 01:13 PM (UBBWX)

231 It would be East, or right, can not be up. See map.
Posted by: Nip Sip

So you're bring maps into it? How about we agree to...
"The devil's goin' over to"?

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 16, 2016 01:13 PM (e347P)

232 "Eyes, scales. Some disassembly required."

Cite for me the personal attacks on Trump, and when they started.

Let me know if they happen before December, when Trump was well into his Carson is like a child molester routine.

Posted by: Harun at April 16, 2016 01:14 PM (UBBWX)

233 I actually don't mind that Trump uses lowbrow insults, but its not cool when his supporters sit here and try to claim "hey, its just weird that suddenly everyone is using lowbrow insults...must be the water."

Posted by: Harun at April 16, 2016 01:15 PM (UBBWX)

234 So you're bring maps into it? How about we agree to...

"The devil's goin' over to"?

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 16, 2016 01:13 PM (e347P)

That will work and we are glad to have him.

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 01:15 PM (jJRIy)

235 I'm about done with Fox news, it's been like Donald has been a co-anchor the last few days.

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2016 01:16 PM (Dpy/y)

236 No way he wrote tbat

Posted by: ThunderB at April 16, 2016 01:16 PM (p29tk)

237 That will work and we are glad to have him.
Posted by: Nip Sip

Just make sure you give him back!!!

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 16, 2016 01:17 PM (e347P)

238 Didn't Gore sue?

Posted by: ThunderB at April 16, 2016 01:18 PM (p29tk)

239 What I didn't like was when the violent protests at Trump rallies started, and all the other GOP candidates basically said that Trump provoked the protesters (tone blah blah blah)
I don't like it when the right propagates leftist memes.
For me that's when things started unravelling in the primary.

Posted by: @votermom at April 16, 2016 01:19 PM (nbrY/)

240 Cite for me the personal attacks on Trump, and when they started.

Let me know if they happen before December, when Trump was well into his Carson is like a child molester routine.

Posted by: Harun at April 16, 2016 01:14 PM (UBBWX)


Have you ever heard of "confirmation bias"?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 16, 2016 01:19 PM (UsLZp)

241 "if The Donald lacks the positive qualities his daughter possesses, who taught her said qualities?"

Its genetic from her mom.

BTW, MKH talks about this. She understands what you're saying.

You guys are way too prickly. Trump himself has said he needs to be more presidential.

Nobody says "When Ace says Cruz needs to be more human and drop the preacher talk" that "its an attack piece on Cruz."

Its called constructive criticism.

Posted by: Harun at April 16, 2016 01:19 PM (UBBWX)

242 "Both campaigns aren't doing that... that is all Trump."

Blinders on?

But mudslinging and character assassination have been part of US politics since before it was the US.

Trump has been effective at it. Rubio and Cruz not-so-much.

I know of PT Barnum only by reputation. Trump seems to be from the same mold.

We've had enough blue-bloods. Trump was born rich but he doesn't act like he thinks he has the divine-right-of-kings.

I hope if we get Cruz for president that he doesn't take this "The Anointed" shit too seriously.

Posted by: ??? at April 16, 2016 01:19 PM (CRXed)

243 >>Women comprise a significant disproportion of the Left (in terms of
voting, etc.) but they don't drive the leftist bus, and frankly (no
offense), being highly socialized, are easily led.


Also: feminism.

Third wave feminism is batsh#t crazy, insisting that sex = empowerment, so sex it up early and often with anyone, in any way, grrrlz!!!
They are encouraging young women to engage in sex, not protecting them.
In fact, one of the things that really pisses them off is protective fathers (something about them not owning their daughter's sexuality or somesuch). How messed up is that?


Posted by: Lizzy at April 16, 2016 01:19 PM (NOIQH)

244 "Have you ever heard of "confirmation bias"?

Have you ever heard of showing me evidence that Trump didn't start with the names?

then you can "defeat" my supposed confirmation bias.

but you won't because Trump has consistently attacked each opponent with somewhat low brow attacks.

But let's take an example: Little Marco.

If you can show me Rubio made a joke about Trump's physical appearance BEFORE Trump made Little Marco a thing, then I will retract my claim that Trump started it. Can't wait to see your evidence.

Posted by: Harun at April 16, 2016 01:21 PM (UBBWX)

245
Pretty much convinced that Trump will deal WITH as he is DEALT with.

I have no absolute proof, it's just intuition.

But I think I'm correct.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 16, 2016 01:21 PM (P/8aq)

246 I'm still wishing Donald will give his supporters more policy depth than a twitter line so they can see its all smoke and mirrors, literally.

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2016 01:22 PM (Dpy/y)

247 Social media has made it nearly impossible to live in a society.

Posted by: Josephistan at April 16, 2016 01:22 PM (7qAYi)

248 Also: feminism.

Third wave feminism is
batsh#t crazy, insisting that sex = empowerment, so sex it up early and
often with anyone, in any way, grrrlz!!!
They are encouraging young women to engage in sex, not protecting them.
In
fact, one of the things that really pisses them off is protective
fathers (something about them not owning their daughter's sexuality or
somesuch). How messed up is that?




Posted by: Lizzy at April 16, 2016 01:19 PM (NOIQH)


Yes, good example. Thanks for not taking offense. I typed my comment with some trepidation, but I think it represents the truth, and you're right: the feminist movement provides abundant examples of exactly what I was talking about.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 01:23 PM (oKE6c)

249 Sorry ladies, but women are much more easily manipulated emotionally. This is why the irrational, but emotional hysterics of the left resonate with them.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 16, 2016 01:24 PM (hVdx9)

250 "I know of PT Barnum only by reputation. Trump seems to be from the same mold."

He has got me frantically in search of the Egress.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 16, 2016 01:24 PM (noWW6)

251 >>> Cite for me the personal attacks on Trump, and when they started.
Let me know if they happen before December, when Trump was well into his Carson is like a child molester routine.
Posted by: Harun at April 16, 2016 01:14 PM (UBBWX
----
Hi. Okay.
I'm not if it's before December but think it is. Salon or Huffington did a hit job about supposedly Trump raping his first wife. Is that personal enough? Ivana denied the allegation.

Posted by: L, Elle at April 16, 2016 01:25 PM (2x3L+)

252 "if The Donald lacks the positive qualities his daughter possesses"

Yes if.

The responders to the post who made personal attacks went beyond an eye-for-and-eye.

Also weren't candidates children off limits a few months ago?

Trump has totally controlled his critics. Trump's weakness is public policy. He could have been hammered on that. I think it is too late now. Everyone attacks him where he is strongest. If I hated Trump I would weep.

Posted by: ??? at April 16, 2016 01:25 PM (CRXed)

253 I see a Feb. 28 Tweet by Trump - master persuader - using "Little Marco Rubio"

And then Rubio fired back the next day with the hands, the spray tan, etc.

Donald, contemplative statesman, started this shit show, every single time.

Its been pretty effective. But you can't now whine about "attacks on Trump" because he started it.

Posted by: Harun at April 16, 2016 01:26 PM (UBBWX)

254 9 Sorry ladies, but women are much more easily manipulated emotionally. This is why the irrational, but emotional hysterics of the left resonate with them.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale


All males, this is not a drill... GUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 16, 2016 01:26 PM (e347P)

255 I say that. We've got some 44-40 cases that expanded at the base. Won't fit back in the cylinder.

No idea who that happened.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 16, 2016 01:26 PM (9ym/8)

256 *RUN

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 16, 2016 01:27 PM (e347P)

257 How.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 16, 2016 01:27 PM (9ym/8)

258 Its called constructive criticism.

Posted by: Harun at April 16, 2016 01:19 PM (UBBWX)


If you think pitting a child against the parent (with the consent of neither to be used this way) is "constructive criticism" then you are just beyond any sort of reasoned argument. Of course, that's no surprise to anyone.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 16, 2016 01:27 PM (zc3Db)

259 That was the prediction after they got faux
marriage. Next up: legalizing pederasty. It's as certain (that they'll
at least try) as the sun rising in the east tomorrow morning.

Posted by: Jay Guevara

-------------------



Yup.

Posted by: Mike Hammer


Phyllis Schlafly predict this about 30 years ago. I clearly remember her giving a speech to the Eagle Forum on CSPAN, and talking about the move to normalize homosexuality, and gay marriage; and how pederastry would follow that.. Well, of course she was some right-wing nut job. Of course.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....tortured American at April 16, 2016 01:27 PM (+1T7c)

260 "He has got me frantically in search of the Egress."

Piers Anthony reference?

Is that you Com-Pewter?

Posted by: ??? at April 16, 2016 01:28 PM (CRXed)

261 >>>when Trump was well into his Carson is like a child molester routine.

whoa. he shouldn't have done that. did he? or are you starting a shit show?

Posted by: x at April 16, 2016 01:28 PM (nFwvY)

262 If you think pitting a child against the parent (with the consent of neither to be used this way) is "constructive criticism" then you are just beyond any sort of reasoned argument. Of course, that's no surprise to anyone.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


Yep.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 16, 2016 01:30 PM (e347P)

263 Yes if.



The responders to the post who made personal attacks went beyond an eye-for-and-eye.



Also weren't candidates children off limits a few months ago?



Trump has totally controlled his critics. Trump's weakness is public
policy. He could have been hammered on that. I think it is too late
now. Everyone attacks him where he is strongest. If I hated Trump I
would weep.

Posted by: ??? at April 16, 2016 01:25 PM (CRXed)


I never thought much of Trump. I still don't think much of Trump. I suspect there are a lot of people like me, who cannot realistically consider him a candidate for President.

The people who hate him the most though, I started out assuming these folks are Gope, and now the haters have increasingly included people who are not Gope, but are still desperately clinging to the hope that the Republican Party is the answer to their questions.


I gave up that hope long long ago. So I don't hate Trump. I can't think of any good reason why I should.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2016 01:30 PM (TOk1P)

264 Perfect example of how the Left, and feminists in particular, are messing up women is "mattress girl." A lot of the 'rape culture' business seems to me to be caused by young women being encouraged to sex it up like a man, but being wired differently than men (generally speaking) they are expecting or craving intimacy from the liaison and not getting that. Which leads them to want to blame someone for this void. Result: he wronged me, so it must be rape.


Posted by: Lizzy at April 16, 2016 01:30 PM (NOIQH)

265 "Salon or Huffington did a hit job about supposedly Trump raping his first wife."

We are talking candidates's language, not other sources.

If you want to include other sources, it will be murkier.

Salon or Huffington post are not under the control of any GOP candidate.

Now, the national enquirer might be persuaded to run a junk piece on Cruz if a friend of Mr. Pecker were to pick up the phone and "spill the beans."

Whatever. Its pointless. You guys think Trump has been betrayed and never said a bad word about anyone! There is no use convincing. Trump will be betrayed - stabbed in the back! - by the media (10 times as much coverage for him) or the Rules (know about since August) or Policy (how can he know about that!)

Posted by: Harun at April 16, 2016 01:30 PM (UBBWX)

266 Have you ever heard of showing me evidence that Trump didn't start with the names?

then you can "defeat" my supposed confirmation bias.

but you won't because Trump has consistently attacked each opponent with somewhat low brow attacks.

But let's take an example: Little Marco.

If you can show me Rubio made a joke about Trump's physical appearance BEFORE Trump made Little Marco a thing, then I will retract my claim that Trump started it. Can't wait to see your evidence.

Posted by: Harun at April 16, 2016 01:21 PM (UBBWX)


Did I ever say that Trump didn't start the name-calling? Did I ever say that he did? All I did was agree with another poster who said that both sides are doing it, which is scarcely unprecedented in a political campaign, you know.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 16, 2016 01:31 PM (UsLZp)

267 Sorry ladies, but women are much more easily manipulated emotionally. This is why the irrational, but emotional hysterics of the left resonate with them.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 16, 2016 01:24 PM (hVdx9)


I'm kind of hoping that hysterical paralysis comes back into fashion. That would help solve a lot of problems. Anorexia and bulimia only exacerbate things ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 16, 2016 01:31 PM (zc3Db)

268 Hey, I like to pee sitting down. What can I say?

Posted by: Montel at April 16, 2016 01:32 PM (Dwehj)

269 >>>>>But let's take an example: Little Marco.
If you can show me Rubio made a joke about Trump's physical appearance BEFORE Trump made Little Marco a thing, then I will retract my claim that Trump started it. Can't wait to see your evidence.
Posted by: Harun at April 16, 2016
---
Prepare to eat crow. The Trump raped his first wife hit job came out way before Little Marco.

Posted by: L, Elle at April 16, 2016 01:32 PM (2x3L+)

270 At Prager University the newest video is on collage rape culture, I heard the woman speaker but didn't see the video.

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2016 01:32 PM (Dpy/y)

271 Phyllis Schlafly predict this about 30 years
ago. I clearly remember her giving a speech to the Eagle Forum on CSPAN,
and talking about the move to normalize homosexuality, and gay
marriage; and how pederasty would follow that.. Well, of course she was
some right-wing nut job. Of course.


Posted by: Bossy Conservative....tortured American at April 16, 2016 01:27 PM (+1T7c)

Hey, I predicted it back then too! And was also called a right-wing nut job for my efforts.
Actually, it was a pretty easy prediction to make. It just seemed an outlandish prediction 30 years ago.
Here's your calibration: after my father died, I was going through newspaper clippings he'd kept that involved him. On the back of one was an article about how, in 1959, two schoolteachers were dismissed for suspected Communist sympathies. In San Francisco. Whoa, huh?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 01:32 PM (oKE6c)

272 Watching this last week at the HQ it's apparent that some here are taking this primary season way too personal. I'm a single issue voter this year. Any candidate who is not named Hilary Clinton gets my vote.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2016 01:33 PM (kTF2Z)

273 "No idea who that happened."

Beginning to thinki dad ran through a 44-40 rifle, but, he sears up and down that didn't happen.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 16, 2016 01:33 PM (9ym/8)

274 At Prager University the newest video is on collage rape culture,

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2016 01:32 PM (Dpy/y)


Making rape collages? That is new.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 16, 2016 01:33 PM (zc3Db)

275 Hey krak/t,

Before you run with the horribly misleading "Cruz bombs at NY GOP Gala" headline, you might want to know some basic facts about what really happened.

For one thing, dinner was served to the attendees right when Cruz started his speech. Trump and Kasich spoke beforehand, and the timing of that is very dubious.

For another, the podium mic was cut while the floor mics were turned on in their place. When you have a mic on the attendees and not the speaker, any similar event will sound just like that. Rush talked a lot about this very thing yesterday.

Are we running with bullshit and false premises just because Fox News is the one running with it now?

Posted by: AimToMisbehave at April 16, 2016 01:35 PM (itFYf)

276 >>> Posted by: Harun at April 16, 2016 01:30 PM (UBBWX)
----
Get yourself some butt cream for your butthurt. Maybe it will help cure your TDS. I voted for Cruz in my primary btw. So go take your rage out on someone else

Posted by: L, Elle at April 16, 2016 01:35 PM (2x3L+)

277 264 Perfect example of how the Left, and feminists in particular, are messing up women is "mattress girl." A lot of the 'rape culture' business seems to me to be caused by young women being encouraged to sex it up like a man, but being wired differently than men (generally speaking) they are expecting or craving intimacy from the liaison and not getting that. Which leads them to want to blame someone for this void. Result: he wronged me, so it must be rape.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 16, 2016 01:30 PM (NOIQH)



Excellent point.


I remember leftist women in Berkeley being encouraged to show their "solidarity" with the bruthas by banging black guys, which of course also encouraged the latter to get on board with the leftist agenda to score some white tail.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 01:35 PM (oKE6c)

278 Wow! The broad in the stall next to me really had to go!

Posted by: Montel at April 16, 2016 01:37 PM (Dwehj)

279
in 1959, two schoolteachers were dismissed for suspected Communist sympathies. In San Francisco. Whoa, huh?
Posted by: Jay Guevara


Today they would be made head of the school board.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 16, 2016 01:41 PM (k4M/B)

280 "I remember leftist women in Berkeley being encouraged to show their "solidarity" with the bruthas by banging black guys..."

That's how we got Obama!

Posted by: navybrat at April 16, 2016 01:41 PM (8QGte)

281 249 Sorry ladies, but women are much more easily manipulated emotionally. This is why the irrational, but emotional hysterics of the left resonate with them.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 16, 2016 01:24 PM (hVdx9)
-------------
Why be "sorry" for stating the obvious?

Women are also hardwired to care far more about security than anything else --- the security of the nest, of the children.

Dennis Prager has often and eloquently pointed out that each sex has its own biologically-driven tendencies. But while our society works hard ---(and today goes way overboard) --- to get men to control the anti-social drives associated with testosterone, there is zero recognition that women need to overcome their own hormone-driven weaknesses.
Indeed, these weaknesses are elevated as virtues.

The results are all around us.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 16, 2016 01:42 PM (T/5A0)

282 Thankfully, I have my Ohio Blue Tips for just such an emergency.

Posted by: Montel at April 16, 2016 01:43 PM (Dwehj)

283 259
That was the prediction after they got faux

marriage. Next up: legalizing pederasty. It's as certain (that they'll

at least try) as the sun rising in the east tomorrow morning.


Posted by: Jay Guevara


-------------------





Yup.



Posted by: Mike Hammer


Phyllis Schlafly predict this
about 30 years ago. I clearly remember her giving a speech to the Eagle
Forum on CSPAN, and talking about the move to normalize homosexuality,
and gay marriage; and how pederastry would follow that.. Well, of course
she was some right-wing nut job. Of course.


Posted by: Bossy Conservative....tortured American at April 16, 2016 01:27 PM (+1T7c)


***************
Polygamy is next. It's already in the courts in Utah. My prediction is that a Muslim-American man, legally married overseas to multiple Muslim-American women, will petition in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts to have the second marriage recognized, and he will win. There is no distinguishing principle after Obergefell that prevents it.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 16, 2016 01:44 PM (5f5bM)

284 Let me walk back a bit my comment above about "easily led." Women are more highly socialized than men (for reasons that will be obvious from a sociobiological viewpoint), and in this context that makes easily manipulated.


It takes nerve to tell the pack to get stuffed, and throughout most of human history a woman could not survive without the pack (Hell, many men would be hard-pressed, too, for that matter.), and so go along to get along. Telling everyone else to get stuffed is not in most women's repertoire.


Doing so IS in some men's repertoire, however, but that cuts two ways. Stepping out from the pack allows men to make discoveries (Columbus!), overturn various orthodoxies (Luther! Heisenberg!), make inventions (the transistor!), start new industries (Gates!) and basically overstep existing (or perceived) boundaries.


That's the good news. The bad news is that on the downside it's the exact same sentiment and deficient socialization that leads men to commit crimes, start wars, and commit genocide.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 01:44 PM (oKE6c)

285 272 Watching this last week at the HQ it's apparent that some here are taking this primary season way too personal. I'm a single issue voter this year. Any candidate who is not named Hilary Clinton gets my vote.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2016 01:33 PM (kTF2Z)
--------------
Well, hellllloooo there!

Posted by: Pus-Oozing Mange-Ridden Hyena at April 16, 2016 01:45 PM (T/5A0)

286 I know, type, proof read, then post.

At Prager University the newest video is on college rape culture, I haven't seen it but heard the interview with the woman narrator Caroline Kitchens.

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2016 01:47 PM (Dpy/y)

287 Women are more highly socialized than men

Not the ones that used to appear on my crappy show.

Posted by: Montel at April 16, 2016 01:48 PM (Dwehj)

288 Posted by: Pus-Oozing Mange-Ridden Hyena at April 16, 2016 01:45 PM (T/5A0)

---------------

No way! I'm a Bucket of Dog Vomit-er! You're a rino.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2016 01:49 PM (kTF2Z)

289 "It's mind blowing to me how the left has forced certain people to think a certain way."
---------------

Actually, the majority of Liberals do not 'think' that way. They simply have learned that they must 'say' the right things in order to socially survive among their peers. It is likely a terrible burden to have say what you are supposed to, rather than what you actually think.

By way of example, if Montel Williams were asked if he favored mature men being allowed to shower with his young daughter, it is almost certain that the sanity override in his brain would have said "No."

Opponents of NC HB2 should be asked if they want to share showers with children of the opposite sex.

The follow up question then, would be, "Then why are you in favor of forcing that on others?"

When the topic of NC HB2 comes up, those who oppose it should be asked that question.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 16, 2016 01:49 PM (9mTYi)

290
Just for the record, I am a Cruz supporter. Did some due diligence at the very first and am ok with him, although he did disappoint with a couple of actions.

Right now, either Trump or Cruz is acceptable.

Not bad, imho.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 16, 2016 01:49 PM (P/8aq)

291 Actually, the majority of Liberals do not 'think'
that way. They simply have learned that they must 'say' the right things
in order to socially survive among their peers. It is likely a terrible
burden to have say what you are supposed to, rather than what you
actually think.



Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 16, 2016 01:49 PM (9mTYi)



Exactly my point above about telling the pack to get stuffed. That takes balls, figuratively and literally.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 01:51 PM (oKE6c)

292 Here's your calibration: after my father died, I was going through newspaper clippings he'd kept that involved him. On the back of one was an article about how, in 1959, two schoolteachers were dismissed for suspected Communist sympathies. In San Francisco. Whoa, huh?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 01:32 PM (oKE6c)

=============
Ugh. That was probably back when teachers were expected to take a loyalty oath. I think it was challenged in court eventually and dropped. If loosely reminds me of this story:

From Silver Lake to Suicide: One Family's Secret History of the Jonestown Massacre

http://goo.gl/vxbXyh

Of course, the nutters in Jonestown were hardcore commies. They would not allow an elderly black woman to read her Bible so they didnt even pretend to be Christian anymore. Of course, everything they did was the antithesis of Christianity so it was always a ruse to hook people in and scam cash.

Around the 25th anniversary people tried to rehabilitate the cult. It was one of the earliest times I heard the phrase "social justice" being used. Spit.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 01:52 PM (iQIUe)

293 There the Bucketbots go again.
I'm a RINO? Sure.

Do you know where Romney's dog vomits after a ride on the car roof? Do you?
Yeah, you guessed it.
And he calls ME a RINO!

Posted by: Pus-Oozing Mange-Ridden Hyena at April 16, 2016 01:53 PM (T/5A0)

294 HotAir has really gone down hill since the changes.

Posted by: Gene Kelly at April 16, 2016 01:53 PM (xZc4z)

295 >>> Right now, either Trump or Cruz is acceptable.
Not bad, imho.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 16, 2016 01:49 PM
---
See. That's what I think too. It seems entirely reasonably to me to vote for either against Hilary, but then I have to be insulted constantly for being willing to vote for Trump when I have only voted for Cruz so far.

Posted by: L, Elle at April 16, 2016 01:54 PM (2x3L+)

296 They have no response when you point out why is it okay for them to refuse to provide services in NC because they disagree with NC's position but it's not okay for NC businesses to refuse services to people they disagree with.

I'm tired of talking. I've graduated to throat punching. That's why I have to avoid in person discussions.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 16, 2016 01:54 PM (oC40p)

297 Can you hyena fanbois not see that he is a con artist? You dupes are so gullible! Open your eyes!

#demonstrateabsurditybybeingabsurd

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2016 01:55 PM (kTF2Z)

298 Ugh. That was probably back when teachers were expected to take a
loyalty oath. I think it was challenged in court eventually and
dropped.



I don't have a problem with public employees having to take a loyalty oath. If you eat the king's salt, you should be loyal to the king.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 01:55 PM (oKE6c)

299 Just for the record, I am a Cruz supporter. Did some due diligence at the very first and am ok with him, although he did disappoint with a couple of actions.

Right now, either Trump or Cruz is acceptable.

Not bad, imho.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 16, 2016 01:49 PM (P/8aq)


I alluded to this upthread, IG. Right now, those who detest the GOPe should be as pleased as punch. Both leading candidates in the primary are anti-GOPe, and the GOPe candidates are trailing in the dust.


One of the funniest things to see is how the Trumpers and the Cruzers attempt to slur their opponents by accusing them of being GOPe-ers in disguise.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 16, 2016 01:56 PM (UsLZp)

300 I don't have a problem with public employees having
to take a loyalty oath. If you eat the king's salt, you should be loyal
to the king.


Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 01:55 PM (oKE6c)

Afterthought: what happens to a private sector employee who is disloyal to his employer? Boom - out the door, right?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 01:56 PM (oKE6c)

301 >>>Seriously, How many Women who "identify" as Men are gonna use the Mens room? I mean do they want to stand over the urinal and pee?<<<

Seriously, didn't some company make a little strap-on pee cup to do just that? If I remember, it had a little spigot-like protrusion to assist with urine placement. Now all that's missing is a way to give it two shakes.

Posted by: Fritz at April 16, 2016 01:56 PM (+E2Y7)

302 (Let me try this again, in the correct thread...)

• In 1939 the US Department of the Interior said that American oil supplies would last only another 13 years....

• In 1949 the Secretary of the Interior announced that the end of US oil was in sight....

-Great Moments in Failed Predictions
http://bit.ly/1YzOMP0

• ...Because as ports struggle to cope with a global oil glut, huge queues of supertankers have formed in some of the world's busiest sea lanes, where some 200 million barrels of crude lies waiting to be loaded or delivered, Reuters reports today.

The vessels, filled with oil worth around $7.5 billion at current market prices, would stretch for almost 40 km (25 miles) if formed up in one straight line....

-Tyler Durden, ZeroHedge
http://bit.ly/1SS3NaX

h/t: Mac Slavo, SHTF Plan
via Baron Bodissey, Gates of Vienna

Posted by: mindful webworker - perpetually perplexed at April 16, 2016 01:59 PM (G0G8s)

303 Cruz and Trump are polar opposites.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 16, 2016 01:59 PM (oC40p)

304 Not saying that hyena's wife is ugly, but she could knock a buzzard off a shitwaggon at a hundred paces. Also, his kids are crazier than shit house rats!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2016 02:00 PM (kTF2Z)

305 Of course, the nutters in Jonestown were hardcore commies.


Yep. I lived in the Bay Area when Jim Jones still had his People's Temple in SF, and it was hard-core, straight-up, full-on, in your face Commie, and so it was the toast of SF, as was Jim Jones.


After he moved the whole lashup to Guyana, and it imploded, the SF glitterati airbrushed Jim Jones out of the collective consciousness. "Who?"

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 02:00 PM (oKE6c)

306 The dirty little secret of the "People's Temple" is how extensively a bunch of prominent progressive Democrats in CA politics had carried water for Jim Jones.

After the unfortunate little incident of the mass murder-suicide, a whole lot of sweeping under the rug took place.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 16, 2016 02:01 PM (noWW6)

307 >>> Cruz and Trump are polar opposites.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 16, 2016 01:59 PM
----
You should be willing to vote for either against Hilary.
This blog used to make fun of trucons and yet demands trucon loyalty now.

Posted by: L, Elle at April 16, 2016 02:02 PM (2x3L+)

308 What I'm reading in this thread.

Someone thinks Trump cares about people attacking him. Trump acts like this happens every day and easily defends himself in the eyes of the groups he is courting. Just business.

Some say Trump is hitting below the belt because his punches are effective.

Trump lets others do his work for him and Megyn Kelly apparently likes it rough. So Trump doesn't know how to treat a lady to get what he wants? Women voters are going to cast secret ballots for Hillary not Trump?

Posted by: ??? at April 16, 2016 02:02 PM (CRXed)

309 But seriously, the last time I saw a female hyena's face that ugly, she was eating assholes out of dead zebras.

Posted by: Fritz at April 16, 2016 02:02 PM (+E2Y7)

310 The dirty little secret of the "People's Temple" is how extensively a bunch of prominent progressive Democrats in CA politics had carried water for Jim Jones.
****

The Milk'd it?

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 16, 2016 02:03 PM (hVdx9)

311 306 The dirty little secret of the "People's Temple" is how extensively a bunch of prominent progressive Democrats in CA politics had carried water for Jim Jones.

After the unfortunate little incident of the mass murder-suicide, a whole lot of sweeping under the rug took place.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 16, 2016 02:01 PM (noWW6)



Yep. Sounds like you were there then too. The closest contemporary parallel (in terms of perception and popularity) I can think of offhand would be Bernie Sanders.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 02:04 PM (oKE6c)

312 "Great Moments in Failed Predictions"

My favorite still has to be Jimmeh Carter dourly warning the nation in the middle 1970s that all U.S. domestic natural gas reserves would be exhausted after another decade or so.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 16, 2016 02:04 PM (noWW6)

313 They have no response when you point out why is it okay for them to refuse to provide services in NC because they disagree with NC's position but it's not okay for NC businesses to refuse services to people they disagree with.
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Hypocrisy is no sin among the Left. It is a tool. But it should be pointed out at every opportunity.

As an aside, the NC University system used to have a ban on communist speakers. I was there when Herbert Aptheker "the Communist Party’s most prominent Cold War intellectual" was ejected from the campus by security.

Those were the good old days of Jesse Helms.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 16, 2016 02:05 PM (9mTYi)

314 I fastidiously avoid any comment on our current Sunni-Shi'a love-fest equivalent, but two things stand out. Both of them stand out because I expect certain things from Cruz, a high standard he has earned.


The Cruz statement after the Chicago Trump rally incident came close to shocking me (doesn't happen much any more). An Al Sharpton-style non-condemnation condemnation. Shocking for two reasons: first (mainly) because it was vile and flirted with mob-mentality thuggery in politics, second because there was absolutely zero political benefit to be had from it. Beneath him - AND pointless.


In a very different vein, and this gets more to political instincts, when he was visiting locally Cruz decided the tack to take on the current disastrous imposition of female participation in all combat roles by the Pentagon was to ..... roll out a ludicrous scare-mongering meme about girls being drafted for combat.


Silly, politically. Nobody (for good reason) now thinks in terms of a draft, of "OMG my kid might have to go" - as a practical matter it simply is *not* the political trip-wire it was under conscription. Obviously. For years now. The disastrous new policies of the Pentagon offer political mileage (in opposing them) - but scare-mongering about your girls being drafted is not the way to do it (even the crowd's response confirmed this - there was barely any response, as most were probably thinking "WTF? Thought the problem was screwing up the military - there's no draft for my kids?")


And with that, tomato seedlings, basil seeds, and 30-06 brass are calling.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 16, 2016 02:05 PM (QDnY+)

315 Well I have seen the Prager University video on college rape culture now. They were talking that we might see the young woman again on smokeless tobacco some day.

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2016 02:05 PM (Dpy/y)

316 I am seeing two types of Bernie supporters here in AZ. Idiot millennials, and people in their 50's.
And yes, more women than men.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 16, 2016 02:05 PM (hVdx9)

317 306 The dirty little secret of the "People's Temple" is how extensively a bunch of prominent progressive Democrats in CA politics had carried water for Jim Jones.
After the unfortunate little incident of the mass murder-suicide, a whole lot of sweeping under the rug took place.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 16, 2016 02:01 PM (noWW6)



Also, remember "Synanon?" Same kind of "transformational" movement, also full of nut jobs.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 02:06 PM (oKE6c)

318
I don't have a problem with public employees having to take a loyalty oath. If you eat the king's salt, you should be loyal to the king.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 01:55 PM (oKE6c)

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Neither do I . My comment was unclear. In fact, I was given a sworn oath when I took a county job.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 02:06 PM (iQIUe)

319 Yeah! Fritz is on board with vomitmentum!

#neverhyena

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2016 02:06 PM (kTF2Z)

320 The Milk'd it?

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 16, 2016 02:03 PM (hVdx9)

(Jump to top of page)


Feinstein, I think. Jerry Brown, too, maybe? It's been a while since I read the Wiki on Jonestown, which was pretty thorough.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 16, 2016 02:06 PM (UsLZp)

321 I refuse to engage in cheap personal insults.
If others want to point out what Bucket does in public rest-stops, so be it. I will not stoop so low.

And I absolutely repudiate that video about Bucket and the dog bowl. My campaign had nothing to do with it.
I will not even mention it, even if it's true.

Posted by: Pus-Oozing Mange-Ridden Hyena at April 16, 2016 02:07 PM (T/5A0)

322 Feinstein, I think. Jerry Brown, too, maybe? It's been a while since I read the Wiki on Jonestown, which was pretty thorough.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Thought I read that pedophile Harvey Milk was a big supporter of Jones. Feinstein would be no surprise. Or Brown.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 16, 2016 02:09 PM (hVdx9)

323 Neither do I . My comment was unclear. In fact, I was given a sworn oath when I took a county job.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 02:06 PM (iQIUe)

Sorry, misunderstood.
For many people loyalty oaths fall into the same category as Joe McCarthy and HUAC, thanks (in all three cases) in no small part to Communist agitation against them.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 02:09 PM (oKE6c)

324 If you can show me Rubio made a joke about Trump's physical appearance BEFORE Trump made Little Marco a thing, then I will retract my claim that Trump started it. Can't wait to see your evidence.

Posted by: Harun at April 16, 2016 01:21 PM (UBBWX)


Did I ever say that Trump didn't start the name-calling? Did I ever say that he did? All I did was agree with another poster who said that both sides are doing it, which is scarcely unprecedented in a political campaign, you know.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 16, 2016 01:31 PM (UsLZp)


but the key is that that MSM and Blogs are all reporting on it day and night...

Its an easy story to write... takes NO effort... no research...

and so the name calling gets coverage 24/7...

Which MAKES it the norm... so other people start doing it... and social conventions (manners) devolve even further...

Posted by: Don Quixote at April 16, 2016 02:10 PM (qf6WZ)

325
Still convinced that reform of the party can be accomplished by political means.

BUT it has to start at local levels. Everything flows from this.

That means school boards, trustees, councilmen, mayors--ALL of it.

Think of this as our long march through the institutions.

No doubt a formidable task, but the left managed it. There will be considerable heartburn involved, I realize.

Can't be helped. We WILL prevail, of course, Being Americans leaves us no other choice.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 16, 2016 02:10 PM (P/8aq)

326 Thought I read that pedophile Harvey Milk was a big supporter of Jones. Feinstein would be no surprise. Or Brown.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 16, 2016 02:09 PM (hVdx9)


LOTS of prominent lefty Democrats were on board with Jones. IIRC, Willie Brown was also among them. In fact, if you were a lefty Democrat, you pretty much HAD to sing Jones's praises at that time.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 02:10 PM (oKE6c)

327 319 Yeah! Fritz is on board with vomitmentum!

#neverhyena
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2016 02:06 PM (kTF2Z)
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Oh, I see the Bucketbots are trying to court the GOPe now.
Fritz is well known as a Cat Shit supporter.
And they call ME a RINO!

Posted by: Pus-Oozing Mange-Ridden Hyena at April 16, 2016 02:12 PM (T/5A0)

328 Was getting tires for the little lady's car and I see a Nissan pickup with a Bernie sticker on it. Sometimes I like to play a game where I guess who it belongs to.
So I walk inside the building where there is a line.
My pick: A young male millennial, tie-dyed t-shirt, jeans, and flip-flops. Sure enough when they go out to inspect the vehicle, his is the Bernie stickered one.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 16, 2016 02:12 PM (hVdx9)

329 Have you heard Hyena try to articulate his policies? Dumber than a bag of hammers, that one.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2016 02:13 PM (kTF2Z)

330 LOTS of prominent lefty Democrats were on board with Jones. IIRC, Willie Brown was also among them. In fact, if you were a lefty Democrat, you pretty much HAD to sing Jones's praises at that time.


Posted by: Jay Guevara
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Sick people.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 16, 2016 02:14 PM (hVdx9)

331 Leftists in the Bay Area were heartbroken when Jones left. (I never understood why he left; as a Commie in SF, he was like a pig in shit.)

Of course, after Guyana, all of Jones's political supporters scuttled under the nearest baseboard, and Jones instantly became an unperson, and has never been mentioned in SF since.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 02:14 PM (oKE6c)

332 I guess the Jonestown story I linked to intrigues me bc I live a few blocks away from the house where the brief case was hidden. The grandparents were commies and of course the kids. The son in law had misgivings while in Jonestown. Still his wife and teenage son and daughter were murdered. I have a big problem with parents, especially fathers, who take their families into hams way. There were number of men who had misgivings but did not rescue their wives or children. At least punch your wife in the face, grab the kid and run into the jungle. Killing or allowing your kids to be killed is to me the biggest fukc you to the world.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 02:15 PM (iQIUe)

333 "In fact, if you were a lefty Democrat, you pretty much HAD to sing Jones's praises at that time."

Nihilism, pure and simple.
Once you are a nihilist, you never have to worry about silly and annoying things like scruples or morals.

Posted by: navybrat at April 16, 2016 02:16 PM (8QGte)

334 Have you heard Hyena try to articulate his policies? Dumber than a bag of hammers, that one.

Seriously, plus the Tourette Syndrome shit. Always laughing at inappropriate times. That guy will get us in a war sure as hell.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at April 16, 2016 02:16 PM (rwI+c)

335 People it's time to think 3rd Party!

Both Bucket of Dog Vomit and Pus-Oozing Mange-Ridden Hyena are part of the establishment!!!11!1!

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Posted by: Moldy Coughed Up Cat Hairballs Crawling with Maggots at April 16, 2016 02:18 PM (2rmvw)

336 From Wiki's Jim Jones entry (which is very good):

"Unlike most supposed cult leaders, Jones was able to gain public support and contact with prominent politicians in the local and national level. For example, Jones and Moscone met privately with vice presidential candidate Walter Mondale on his campaign plane days before the 1976 election, leading Mondale to publicly praise the Temple.[44][45] First Lady Rosalynn Carter also personally met with Jones on multiple occasions; corresponded with him about Cuba; and spoke with him at the grand opening of the San Francisco Democratic Party Headquarters, where Jones garnered louder applause than Mrs. Carter.[44][46][47]

In September 1977, California assemblyman Willie Brown served as master of ceremonies at a large testimonial dinner for Jones attended by Governor Jerry Brown and Lieutenant Governor Mervyn Dymally.[48] At that dinner, Brown touted Jones as "what you should see every day when you look in the mirror in the early morning hours... a combination of Martin King, Angela Davis, Albert Einstein... Chairman Mao".[49] Harvey Milk, who spoke at political rallies at the Temple,[50] wrote to Jones after a visit to the Temple: "Rev Jim, It may take me many a day to come back down from the high that I reach today. I found something dear today. I found a sense of being that makes up for all the hours and energy placed in a fight. I found what you wanted me to find. I shall be back. For I can never leave."[51][52]"

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 02:18 PM (oKE6c)

337 329 Have you heard Hyena try to articulate his policies? Dumber than a bag of hammers, that one.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2016 02:13 PM (kTF2Z)
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I may not be as eloquent as I was before that tongue incident, but at least I actually HAVE policies.
Bucket just dribbles out random chunks of nonsense.

Posted by: Pus-Oozing Mange-Ridden Hyena at April 16, 2016 02:19 PM (T/5A0)

338 My pick: A young male millennial, tie-dyed t-shirt, jeans, and flip-flops. Sure enough when they go out to inspect the vehicle, his is the Bernie stickered one.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 16, 2016 02:12 PM (hVdx9)


Heh! That's almost a gimme.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 16, 2016 02:20 PM (UsLZp)

339 >>>Fritz is well known as a Cat Shit supporter. <<<

Cat Shit is arguably an alien entity. What we need right now is a non-terrestrial nominee to probe, prod, and excise the malaise that has infected our political process.

Posted by: Fritz at April 16, 2016 02:20 PM (+E2Y7)

340 ☠ PayPal
☠ Bruce Springsteen
☠ Some other rocker
☠ Disney
☠ Ringo Starr
☠ Cirque de Soleil
☠ Michael Moore

Haven't seen a downside yet to the NC law....

Posted by: mindful webworker - heh at April 16, 2016 02:21 PM (G0G8s)

341 Kind of looks like a list of prominent Democrats not supporting Jim Jones would be smaller and easier to manage.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 16, 2016 02:22 PM (UsLZp)

342 334---Seriously, plus the Tourette Syndrome shit. Always laughing at inappropriate times. That guy will get us in a war sure as hell.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at April 16, 2016 02:16 PM (rwI+c)
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RINO!!!!!!
Ha, ha, ha!!!

Posted by: Pus-Oozing Mange-Ridden Hyena at April 16, 2016 02:23 PM (T/5A0)

343 And yet there are Manson family members that are still allowed to breathe our oxygen.

Posted by: Fritz at April 16, 2016 02:24 PM (+E2Y7)

344 Bucket just dribbles out random chunks of nonsense.

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It's part of his charm. Plus, I heard that you're a thespian and I could never vote for one of those.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2016 02:24 PM (kTF2Z)

345 339
Cat Shit is arguably an alien entity. What we need right now is a non-terrestrial nominee to probe, prod, and excise the malaise that has infected our political process.
Posted by: Fritz at April 16, 2016 02:20 PM (+E2Y7)
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Yeah, well, give Moldy Coughed-up Cat Hairballs a look.
He's got astronomically small support!
Ha, ha!

Posted by: Pus-Oozing Mange-Ridden Hyena at April 16, 2016 02:26 PM (T/5A0)

346 Haven't seen a downside yet to the NC law....

Posted by: mindful webworker - heh at April 16, 2016 02:21 PM (G0G8s)


Kind of sad about Ringo Starr. About him being bitten by the SJW virus, I mean. He was always the least political of the Beatles, just wanted to play music and have a good time. And his post-Beatle efforts were general fun pop music, too. Nice, light musical entertainment.


I'm wondering if it was really him, or some douche in his management company.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 16, 2016 02:26 PM (UsLZp)

347 Posted by: Moldy Coughed Up Cat Hairballs Crawling with Maggots at April 16, 2016 02:18 PM (2rmvw)

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You're not even on most of the state ballots. Some ground game ya got there, loser. Sad!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2016 02:27 PM (kTF2Z)

348 341 Kind of looks like a list of prominent Democrats not supporting Jim Jones would be smaller and easier to manage.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 16, 2016 02:22 PM (UsLZp)



Poor Rosalyn Carter. She not only met with Jim Jones (I'd forgotten that until I read the Wiki article), but also (famously) with John Wayne Gacy.


And on top of that, has to put up with Jimmah on a daily basis. Yikes.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 02:27 PM (oKE6c)

349 Leslie VanHoutan continues to this day to minimize her crimes. She went into the LoBianco home to murder two people. Under the law, she was a conspirator and guilty for both their deaths. He lame claim that she only held Rosemary down and stabbed her after she was dead is bullshit.

Also, she was part of the cult that conspired and brutally murdered numerous people. I dont give a shit whether she was charged or not. She is guilty of numerous murders just by the fact that she was a co conspirator.

She shd never be allowed out of prison.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 02:29 PM (iQIUe)

350 Little Known True Fact:

Rosalyn Carter contracted the swamp rabbit.

Posted by: Fritz at April 16, 2016 02:30 PM (+E2Y7)

351 344--- I heard that you're a thespian and I could never vote for one of those.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2016 02:24 PM (kTF2Z)
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It's a damned lie and you know it.
And what about Bucket? Do you know that it is a matter of FACT that he publicly matriculated at Vomit U.?
Publicly.

Posted by: Pus-Oozing Mange-Ridden Hyena at April 16, 2016 02:30 PM (T/5A0)

352 343 And yet there are Manson family members that are still allowed to breathe our oxygen.
Posted by: Fritz at April 16, 2016 02:24 PM (+E2Y7)




(Studiously ignoring the Trump-Cruz jihad) Yep, and it's even worse. Leslie Van Houten has just been recommended for parole. The only thing standing between her and freedom is ... Jerry Brown.


(sobs)

http://tinyurl.com/jmlgdyy

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 02:31 PM (oKE6c)

353 Did you see what hyena did to that reporter? Bit her arm clean off. Is predation presidential behavior? I think not. And his "Don't hate me because I'm a wild carnivore, I was born that way" schtick is getting old. No one is above the law. Even carrion eaters!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2016 02:31 PM (kTF2Z)

354 My pick: A young male millennial, tie-dyed t-shirt, jeans, and flip-flops. Sure enough when they go out to inspect the vehicle, his is the Bernie stickered one.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 16, 2016 02:12 PM (hVdx9)


Heh! That's almost a gimme.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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True, but there is definitely a uniform for some of them.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 16, 2016 02:32 PM (hVdx9)

355 The Wyoming delegates were all bribed. They were paid off. And Ben Carson is a pathological child mo...what's that?...he's on my side now? oh...Ben Carson left those sponges in people so they could clean up later. Great guy, believe me.

All delegates skate free at my rink!

Posted by: Donald F. Troop, Small Businessman at April 16, 2016 02:32 PM (Ndje9)

356 In a very different vein, and this gets more to political instincts,
when he was visiting locally Cruz decided the tack to take on the
current disastrous imposition of female participation in all combat
roles by the Pentagon was to ..... roll out a ludicrous scare-mongering
meme about girls being drafted for combat.


IIRC, a couple generals/senior officers have publicly suggested that women be eligible for the draft. I know some of the conservative groups that regularly spam my email threw a fit about it.

Personally, I am all for it, on the basis that the only way to get back to the "bad old days" of patriarchy and chivalry is for enough people to get hurt enough in obviously enough ways that society starts to rethink its assumptions. Sucks for my nieces, alas.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 16, 2016 02:33 PM (bZ7mE)

357 And on top of that, has to put up with Jimmah on a daily basis. Yikes.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 02:27 PM (oKE6c)


And let us not forget Al Gore's relationship with Fred Phelps, founder of the Westboro Baptist Church, a cult in its own right.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 16, 2016 02:34 PM (UsLZp)

358 349 Leslie VanHoutan continues to this day to minimize her crimes. She went into the LoBianco home to murder two people. Under the law, she was a conspirator and guilty for both their deaths. He lame claim that she only held Rosemary down and stabbed her after she was dead is bullshit.
Also, she was part of the cult that conspired and brutally murdered numerous people. I dont give a shit whether she was charged or not. She is guilty of numerous murders just by the fact that she was a co conspirator.
She shd never be allowed out of prison.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 02:29 PM (iQIUe)



Charles Manson Co. singlehandedly changed my views on the death penalty. As a young and idealistic (read: stupid) kid, I'd opposed it, but voted for Prop. 17 (reintroduction of the death penalty) as a direct consequence of Manson.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 02:34 PM (oKE6c)

359 Oh, for heaven's sake, look at the video!
She shoved her arm down my throat and rammed it against my teeth. I'm lucky to have survived it without choking to death.


Posted by: Pus-Oozing Mange-Ridden Hyena at April 16, 2016 02:35 PM (T/5A0)

360 Still convinced that reform of the party can be accomplished by political means.

BUT it has to start at local levels. Everything flows from this.

That means school boards, trustees, councilmen, mayors--ALL of it.

Think of this as our long march through the institutions.

No doubt a formidable task, but the left managed it. There will be considerable heartburn involved, I realize.

Can't be helped. We WILL prevail, of course, Being Americans leaves us no other choice.


Posted by: irongrampa at April 16, 2016 02:10 PM (P/8aq)


Very few years ago, my little community would vote down any/all local tax increases, and the public schools ran well, on small budgets, and state-wide low per-student costs.


In the last five years, now all tax increases (which get voted on EVERY election) pass with substantial majorities, and the board has exorcised the last of the fiscal conservatives this past election two weeks ago. It wasn't even close. there were 3 candidates for one slot. The other two both had twice as many votes as the conservative.


I'm all for starting at the local level, but sadly, where I live, we're just starting to sweep in the other direction. It's either going to all fall apart, or it's going to take a long long time for the pendulum to swing back.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2016 02:36 PM (TOk1P)

361 Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 02:34 PM (oKE6c)

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Last nite people here were arguing for her release.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 02:36 PM (iQIUe)

362 Civility s gone now. Not primarily a comment on politics, but on society. Comity has been destroyed. It's the Balkans, and Weimar, and Decadence.

Posted by: kraken at April 16, 2016 02:37 PM (mHL0c)

363 @217, "Lizzy"

Thanks for that link! I'd read that some time ago but lost track of the source over the years. It's very prescient and still relevant!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at April 16, 2016 02:38 PM (5csB/)

364 Want a sad commentary on how far we've fallen? If the Manson murders were to happen today it would be a one day story. That's if it even made national news.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2016 02:38 PM (kTF2Z)

365 364 Want a sad commentary on how far we've fallen? If the Manson murders were to happen today it would be a one day story. That's if it even made national news.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2016 02:38 PM (kTF2Z)




Manson would best be known as a mentor to some Democrat Presidential candidate. Hell, we've already seen a admitted terrorist serve that role.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 02:40 PM (oKE6c)

366 Last nite people here were arguing for her release.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 02:36 PM (iQIUe)


Release from her mortal coil? Count me in.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 02:40 PM (oKE6c)

367
The latest in defense bullshit is to argue that clients are dying and shd be released on compassionate leave. Lynn Stewart, terrorist, was released from prison on the claim she had less that 18 months to live. That was almost 2 1/y years ago.

Max Soffar who murdered 4 people was said to have only days/weeks/months to live. Again, that was 2 years ago.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 02:41 PM (iQIUe)

368 359 Oh, for heaven's sake, look at the video!
She shoved her arm down my throat and rammed it against my teeth. I'm lucky to have survived it without choking to death.


Posted by: Pus-Oozing Mange-Ridden Hyena at April 16, 2016 02:35 PM (T/5A0)

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So the Serengeti Shithead admits it now? Couple of days ago his story was that "he'd never even met the bitch."

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2016 02:42 PM (kTF2Z)

369 361
Last nite people here were arguing for her release.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 02:36 PM (iQIUe)
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The arguments were based on expediency rather than justice. Given crowded prisons and the tendency of lefties to release prisoners, many thought it would be better to let her go to make room for someone more immediately dangerous to society.

I understand that view but personally believe that it is too great an affront to justice to release such a high-profile murderer.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 16, 2016 02:43 PM (T/5A0)

370 Civility s gone now. Not primarily a comment on politics, but on society. Comity has been destroyed. It's the Balkans, and Weimar, and Decadence.

-
From Hot Air:

"America hasn't gone crazy. It's just more like Europe."

This does not soothe my troubled soul.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 16, 2016 02:46 PM (Nwg0u)

371 "Serengeti Shithead"
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Classy. Real classy.
And an ethnic slur thrown in for good measure.

Unfortunately, this is all too typical of Bucketbots.
See how they are bringing the level of discourse down?

Posted by: Pus-Oozing Mange-Ridden Hyena at April 16, 2016 02:48 PM (T/5A0)

372 by the way, the Pet Thread is up.

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at April 16, 2016 02:49 PM (qSIlh)

373 Aaah Europe. Don't we long for that? Politicians murdered in the streets. The Brotherhood of Man overrunning countries. Relativity, in everything. And a morally exhausted populace, too equivocal to take a stand on anything.
Are we ready? Hope so, cause it's here.

Posted by: kraken at April 16, 2016 02:51 PM (mHL0c)

374 Given crowded prisons and the tendency of lefties to release prisoners,
many thought it would be better to let her go to make room for someone
more immediately dangerous to society.




I have a much better way to relieve prison crowding, and to deal with recividism at the same time.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 02:52 PM (oKE6c)

375 How about Sub Saharan Slacker?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2016 02:52 PM (kTF2Z)

376 Lynn Stewart, terrorist, was released from prison on the claim she had less that 18 months to live


We should have seen to it that that prediction was borne out.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 02:53 PM (oKE6c)

377 The arguments were based on expediency rather than justice. Given crowded prisons and the tendency of lefties to release prisoners, many thought it would be better to let her go to make room for someone more immediately dangerous to society.

I understand that view but personally believe that it is too great an affront to justice to release such a high-profile murderer.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 16, 2016 02:43 PM (T/5A0)
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At this time, prisons in CA are not overcrowded - the county jails are overcrowded due to changes in the law.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 02:53 PM (iQIUe)

378 Last nite people here were arguing for her release.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!
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I am for it too....from 30,000 feet with no parachute...

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 16, 2016 02:54 PM (hVdx9)

379 >>>Last nite people here were arguing for her release.<<<

Release her to ISIS. I'm sure her comedy routine would complement their sharia system.

Posted by: Fritz at April 16, 2016 02:58 PM (+E2Y7)

380 At this time, prisons in CA are not overcrowded - the county jails are overcrowded due to changes in the law.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 02:53 PM (iQIUe)

Jerry Brown's way of dealing with the state's financial problems: offload liabilities onto LOCAL governments instead. God forbid we actually cut expenses. Just shift them onto someone else's books, and declare victory.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 02:58 PM (oKE6c)

381 I am for it too....from 30,000 feet with no parachute...

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 16, 2016 02:54 PM (hVdx9)

29,994 feet too far. And replace the parachute with a rope around her scrawny neck.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2016 02:59 PM (oKE6c)

382
While we wait for the cops, have a seat and I will tell you all about Jesus.


https://goo.gl/zB2p60

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 16, 2016 02:59 PM (iQIUe)

383
You're not even on most of the state ballots. Some ground game ya got there, loser. Sad!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2016 02:27 PM (kTF2Z)


That's cuz Lyin' Hyena and Little Bucket cheated!

But, I expect to be on, at a minimum, 14 states ballots-

and, and, our Write In The Moldy Coughed Up Cat Hairballs Crawling with Maggots Movement is growing exponentially every day!!!!

People want a real choice this election.

We're not like the old 3rd party-

The Squeezed Out Anal Glands Smegma Party-

this is the new Moldy Coughed Up Cat Hairballs Crawling with Maggots Party and we're going to win!!!

Posted by: Moldy Coughed Up Cat Hairballs Crawling with Maggots at April 16, 2016 03:08 PM (2rmvw)

384 362
Civility s gone now. Not primarily a comment on politics, but on
society. Comity has been destroyed. It's the Balkans, and Weimar, and
Decadence.

Posted by: kraken at April 16, 2016 02:37 PM (mHL0c)

Oh don't be so hard on us. Politics has never had any civility. I'll agree with you, the rest of society has turned into a bag of shit, but politics has always been there.

Remember this "ma ma where's my pa?" Chant yelled at Glover Cleveland about his illegitimate son.


http://tinyurl.com/88extgf

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 03:21 PM (jJRIy)

385 A vote for hair balls is a vote for the establishment. Plus, he's an asshole!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2016 03:22 PM (kTF2Z)

386 I'm a lifelong Democrat, but there's a question I'd like to ask Republicans: why do you hate mange so much?

Posted by: Feculent Shart Bubble at April 16, 2016 03:37 PM (CKGil)

387 Posted by: Nip Sip at April 16, 2016 03:21 PM (jJRIy)

Yeah,probably right. I'm a lot more appalled by our culture. Someone said politics is downstream from culture, and I guss that makes sense.
I'm not optimistic about it being put right. Nothing I see as a unifying goal or priciple, given the demographic.

Posted by: kraken at April 16, 2016 03:43 PM (mHL0c)

388 It was weak. I just couldn't make my mind enter concern-troll space. My bad.

Posted by: Feculent Shart Bubble at April 16, 2016 03:45 PM (CKGil)

389 @387:
Disagree with you - we do have a unifying priciple.

I worked for a little while with a Pakistani IBM Fellow. He explained that from his perspective US society looked like one big "The Prices Is Right". I couldn't disagee. Um, awkward.

Posted by: phunctor at April 16, 2016 03:49 PM (CKGil)

390 388 It was weak. I just couldn't make my mind enter concern-troll space. My bad.
Posted by: Feculent Shart Bubble at April 16, 2016 03:45 PM (CKGil)

S'okay.... weekend trolling is like weekend commenting in general... desultory, non caffeine fueled, as a rule. Usually comes from people killing time while the grill is heating, or confined to a hospital bed, orspending time with the inlaws.

Posted by: kraken at April 16, 2016 03:50 PM (mHL0c)

391 Weekends are good. No Ace whining because Trump stole his binky.

Posted by: Horatio Alger Hiss at April 16, 2016 04:02 PM (6ptYc)

392 S'okay.... weekend trolling is like weekend
commenting in general... desultory, non caffeine fueled, as a rule.
Usually comes from people killing time while the grill is heating, or
confined to a hospital bed, orspending time with the inlaws.

Posted by: kraken at April 16, 2016 03:50 PM (mHL0c)

Or watching the Rockets get abused by the Golden State Warriors. The New Jersey Generals put up more of a fight.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 16, 2016 04:05 PM (5f5bM)

393 The Rockets had a good defensive game for the first two minutes. Now they've thinking of England apparently.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 16, 2016 04:13 PM (zxeJt)

394 373 Aaah Europe. Don't we long for that? Politicians murdered in the streets...

OK, so far so good.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at April 16, 2016 04:13 PM (Kucy5)

395 No whining because Trump stole HIS binky?

Everything is turn on Fox all I see and hear is someone whining someone stole his deligates.

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2016 04:15 PM (Dpy/y)

396 Oh yes.

It's too bad that this crazy woman attacking MKH could not bathe in the medicinal, healing river of Cruz support.

Why , I have only supported Cruz for 6 months and my lower back pain is almost gone!

Trump makes people crazy. Cruz heals the sick.

No choice at all.


Posted by: Mortimer at April 16, 2016 04:20 PM (Iz75+)

397 Everything is turn on Fox all I see and hear is someone whining someone stole his deligates.

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2016 04:15 PM (Dpy/y)

You are not a fan of Scott Adams are you.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 16, 2016 04:42 PM (T78UI)

398 Lyin' Donald says the Wyoming delegates were all bribed. The proof? He keeps it in his assh*le.

The real fix in this cycle is FOX and CNN giving him 100 times the coverage. He may have a lead, but he doesn't have 100 times the lead. There's your money-driven fix.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 16, 2016 04:46 PM (Ndje9)

399 I see trump wants the "wall" to be named after Him..... Someone said it should be called the Great Wall Of Winna....

Posted by: donna at April 16, 2016 05:11 PM (O2RFr)

400 Hi. Okay.

I'm not if it's before December but think it is. Salon or Huffington
did a hit job about supposedly Trump raping his first wife. Is that
personal enough? Ivana denied the allegation.

Posted by: L, Elle at April 16, 2016 01:25 PM (2x3L+)

Did Cruz write that piece? If not, then it is not proof that "both camps are slinging mud". They aren't (Rubio did but he is no longer in)... at this point that is all Trump lying his ass off and inciting violence and threats of violence while he is at it.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 05:24 PM (nUJM6)

401 Trump is lying his ass off (like politicians do) but he is not threatening violence.

Trump stated, correctly, that people get angry when they don't think their votes are counted. Right now that is working for Trump. Cruz and the GOPe need to change the optics. Otherwise they get trounced in November.

Cruz has women problems. Cruz did not answer the allegations in a way that will keep them from coming back. The anointed can not survive credible allegations of adultery.

Posted by: ??? at April 16, 2016 05:42 PM (CRXed)

402 "FOX and CNN"

Both give Trump coverage for the same reason we comment here more about Trump than Cruz. Trump says outrageous things which pushes the conversation in his direction. Forty years ago Trump would have been treated like Liberace. Now our culture has become infantile.

Posted by: ??? at April 16, 2016 05:47 PM (CRXed)

403 Trump is lying his ass off (like politicians do) but he is not threatening violence.



Trump stated, correctly, that people get angry when they don't think
their votes are counted. Right now that is working for Trump. Cruz and
the GOPe need to change the optics. Otherwise they get trounced in
November.



Cruz has women problems. Cruz did not answer the allegations in a
way that will keep them from coming back. The anointed can not survive
credible allegations of adultery.

Posted by: ??? at April 16, 2016 05:42 PM (CRXed)

Yes. He. Is.

He threatened riots in Cleveland if he is not crowned. but that is not what I said. I said he was inciting violence and threats of violence and I am correct in that too. He has repeatedly told his supporters to commit violence on protesters and several supporters did. He incited death threats against GOP officials in Colorado through his angry lies about the process there.

And you are lying for Trump here too.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 06:04 PM (nUJM6)

404 Praise the Cruz!

Forgive us Ted for we have sinned against Thee!


Posted by: Mortimer at April 16, 2016 06:17 PM (Iz75+)

405 And you are lying for Trump here too.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 06:04 PM (nUJM6)

****

Wow, TDS does not even begin to describe your level of obsession. When do you start comparing yourself to Churchill?

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 06:21 PM (KcI5m)

406 Wow, TDS does not even begin to describe your level of obsession. When do you start comparing yourself to Churchill?

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 06:21 PM (KcI5m)

No TDS... just hatred of lying (and bearing false witness). You people are dead wrong in repeating rumors and lies on the behalf of anyone including Trump.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 06:23 PM (nUJM6)

407 No TDS... just hatred of lying (and bearing false witness). You people are dead wrong in repeating rumors and lies on the behalf of anyone including Trump.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 06:23 PM (nUJM6)

*****

Well then, Derangement Sydrome does not apparently mean what you think it means.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 06:25 PM (KcI5m)

408 "Cruz has women problems. Cruz did not answer the allegations in a way that will keep them from coming back. The anointed can not survive credible allegations of adultery."

Posted by: ??? at April 16, 2016 05:42 PM (CRXed)

***********

Where, exactly, are the credible allegations? Why didn't The Enquirer, of John Edwards & Gary Hart fame, do the same thing they did in the Edwards & Hart stories and name names if they're on such solid ground?

And why didn't that additional credible information (from a story not picked up by NYT, BuzzFeed, WaPo, Daily Beast and any number of other outlets who would have a cherished space of honor on their wall for Cruz's scalp) surface in time for Wisconsin, where a loss would have sunk the Cruz campaign once and for all?


Go ahead and tell us, we'll be waiting right here...

Posted by: AimToMisbehave at April 16, 2016 06:36 PM (itFYf)

409 Where, exactly, are the credible allegations? Why
didn't The Enquirer, of John Edwards Gary Hart fame, do the same
thing they did in the Edwards Hart stories and name names if
they're on such solid ground?



And why didn't that additional credible information (from a story
not picked up by NYT, BuzzFeed, WaPo, Daily Beast and any number of
other outlets who would have a cherished space of honor on their wall
for Cruz's scalp) surface in time for Wisconsin, where a loss would have
sunk the Cruz campaign once and for all?





Go ahead and tell us, we'll be waiting right here...

Posted by: AimToMisbehave at April 16, 2016 06:36 PM (itFYf)

You will be waiting for a while. The standard response to "that's a lie" is TDS!?!

Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 07:01 PM (nUJM6)

410 Well then, Derangement Sydrome does not apparently mean what you think it means.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 06:25 PM (KcI5m)

What it means is you can not defend your guy's actions and words so instead you pound the table.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 07:06 PM (nUJM6)

411 What it means is you can not defend your guy's actions and words so instead you pound the table.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 07:06 PM (nUJM6)

****

I am pounding no table because I could easily vote for Trump or Cruz, despite the constant shit Cruz supporters throw at anyone who would vote for Trump.

You are aware that whoever wins is going to need the voters of the other, right?

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 07:40 PM (YLidQ)

412 I am pounding no table because I could easily vote
for Trump or Cruz, despite the constant shit Cruz supporters throw at
anyone who would vote for Trump.



You are aware that whoever wins is going to need the voters of the other, right?

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 07:40 PM (YLidQ)

You are pounding the table because Trump is indefensible but you and almost every other Trump supporter here defends him anyway by trying to distract.


You are just fine, apparently, with his lyin' Ted bullshit and every other lie and incivility that comes out of his mouth. You might as well be Democrats for all the bad behavior you are willing to explain away or provide a distraction for.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 07:46 PM (nUJM6)

413 You are just fine, apparently, with his lyin' Ted bullshit and every other lie and incivility that comes out of his mouth. You might as well be Democrats for all the bad behavior you are willing to explain away or provide a distraction for.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 07:46 PM (nUJM6)

*****

Good grief. So, apparently in your TDS you are NOT aware that should Cruz win he will need Trump voters. Alrighty then.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 07:48 PM (YLidQ)

414
Good grief. So, apparently in your TDS you are NOT aware that should Cruz win he will need Trump voters. Alrighty then.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 07:48 PM (YLidQ)

Distract, distract, distract and never address the point... heck of a job there, Brownie.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 07:52 PM (nUJM6)

415 Distract, distract, distract and never address the point... heck of a job there, Brownie.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 07:52 PM (nUJM6)

****

Ii don't have any further points to make. Once you wipe off all that spittle, do you?

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 07:54 PM (YLidQ)

416 Drudge has a great headline up. You should check it out.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 07:59 PM (YLidQ)

417 Ii don't have any further points to make. Once you wipe off all that spittle, do you?

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 07:54 PM (YLidQ)

You haven't made a point yet so why bother posting at all if you aren't going to eventually get to one?

And again, pounding the table just shows you have nothing real to say.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 07:59 PM (nUJM6)

418 And again, pounding the table just shows you have nothing real to say.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 07:59 PM (nUJM6)

****

Pointing out that Cruz will need Trump voters if he wins was not making a point? Ok then, you really are pretty far around the bend.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 08:01 PM (YLidQ)

419

Drudge has a great headline up. You should check it out.





Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 07:59 PM (YLidQ)

Yet another lie... no less than I expect from Trump and his supporters.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 08:02 PM (nUJM6)

420 You may also want to look up the term "projection" and " deflection and inversion" as they are used by the Psych profession.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 08:03 PM (YLidQ)

421 Drudge has a great headline up. You should check it out.





Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 07:59 PM (YLidQ)

This morning the news blurb showed him claiming that he won eleven elections in a row... so this means Cruz will claim he won twelve elections in a row?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 16, 2016 08:03 PM (T78UI)

422 This morning the news blurb showed him claiming that he won eleven elections in a row... so this means Cruz will claim he won twelve elections in a row?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 16, 2016 08:03 PM (T78UI)

****

I dunno. Ask his spokesperson who is on this thread.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 08:06 PM (YLidQ)

423
Drudge has a great headline up. You should check it out.





Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 07:59 PM (YLidQ)

But since you are chuckling about delegates, Trump also lost in that race at Virginia's 10 district convention today. All three district delegates voted in as well as one of the alternates are strong Cruz supporters. That makes the second district convention and the second loss for Trump (the 9th district voted in two Cruz supporters and one Trump supporter as national delegates). So its 5 to 1 Cruz/Trump delegates thus far in Virginia.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 08:08 PM (nUJM6)

424 You might as well be Democrats


If you are a typical Republican then yes, I would say that you make a great case.

Posted by: Mortimer at April 16, 2016 08:09 PM (Iz75+)

425 You really decided to skip where I said I could vote for either Trump or Cruz, didn't you? Simply amazing.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 08:10 PM (YLidQ)

426 Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 08:08 PM (nUJM6)

Thus proving that what the voters say does not matter...

They will game the system.... against the real outsider.

Posted by: Don Quixote at April 16, 2016 08:15 PM (qf6WZ)

427 Posted by: redbanzai


I bet you are hella fun at parties.

Posted by: Mortimer at April 16, 2016 08:16 PM (Iz75+)

428 You really decided to skip where I said I could vote for either Trump or Cruz, didn't you? Simply amazing.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 08:10 PM (YLidQ)

Assuming that is true, it still does not change anything I said. I will believe it is true when you start calling Trump on his bullshit.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 08:17 PM (nUJM6)

429 Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 08:08 PM (nUJM6)



Thus proving that what the voters say does not matter...



They will game the system.... against the real outsider.

Posted by: Don Quixote at April 16, 2016 08:15 PM (qf6WZ)

What it proves is that Democrats voted for him in the open primary in Virginia and 35% ain't a majority.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 08:19 PM (nUJM6)

430 Yet another lie... no less than I expect from Trump and his supporters.


Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 08:02 PM (nUJM6)


You know???

I've been really careful on this site...

But calling all Trump supporters LIARS... because you don't agree with our pick of candidate???

Really???? and then of course... when we DON"T support your candidate in the General, you will of course call us traitors...

YOU are the reason we will be putting up with President Hillary Clinton.... because YOU are making it really hard to come together for the General.

Posted by: Don Quixote at April 16, 2016 08:19 PM (qf6WZ)

431 Assuming that is true, it still does not change anything I said. I will believe it is true when you start calling Trump on his bullshit.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 08:17 PM (nUJM6)

****

I'm not the one who has been calling either candidate on anything. You have that covered, on the one side only, of course.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 08:19 PM (YLidQ)

432 What it proves is that Democrats voted for him in the open primary in Virginia and 35% ain't a majority.


Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 08:19 PM (nUJM6)


What it shows is that Trump has an edge in the GENERAL election...

You know... the one where everyone not just die hard Repubs get to vote?

Posted by: Don Quixote at April 16, 2016 08:20 PM (qf6WZ)

433 Yet another lie... no less than I expect from Trump and his supporters.





Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 08:02 PM (nUJM6)





You know???



I've been really careful on this site...



But calling all Trump supporters LIARS... because you don't agree with our pick of candidate???



Really???? and then of course... when we DON"T support your candidate in the General, you will of course call us traitors...



YOU are the reason we will be putting up with President Hillary
Clinton.... because YOU are making it really hard to come together for
the General.

Posted by: Don Quixote at April 16, 2016 08:19 PM (qf6WZ)


It isn't your pick of candidate... it is your carrying water for him and repeating every lie that comes out of his mouth. The system to pick delegates is not new and fuck him for outright saying duly elected delegates are "stealing" anything from him.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 08:22 PM (nUJM6)

434
'As a Concerned Christian Conservative I can't believe that anyone would ever consider voting for filthy, stinky sinner Donald Trump.'

Posted by: Mortimer at April 16, 2016 08:23 PM (Iz75+)

435 It isn't your pick of candidate... it is your carrying water for him and repeating every lie that comes out of his mouth. The system to pick delegates is not new and fuck him for outright saying duly elected delegates are "stealing" anything from him.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 08:22 PM (nUJM6)

****

Really. Please point out where in this thread anyone has repeated anything Trump said. I'll wait while my tablet's internal wiper clears your spittle.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 08:24 PM (YLidQ)

436 What it shows is that Trump has an edge in the GENERAL election...



You know... the one where everyone not just die hard Repubs get to vote?

Posted by: Don Quixote at April 16, 2016 08:20 PM (qf6WZ)

What it shows is that allowing the other party to choose your candidate gets you someone who won't do one damn conservative thing if he gets into office. Not that he will cause alllll those Democrats who voted for him in the primaries? They will be voting for the actual Democratic candidate come November.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 08:25 PM (nUJM6)

437 Really. Please point out where in this thread anyone
has repeated anything Trump said. I'll wait while my tablet's internal
wiper clears your spittle.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 08:24 PM (YLidQ)

Thus proving that what the voters say does not matter...



They will game the system.... against the real outsider.

Posted by: Don Quixote at April 16, 2016 08:15 PM (qf6WZ)


There ya go Tim... I would also point you to your own recommendation of Drudge's lying headlines but that is not directly repeating the lies so I won't.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 08:28 PM (nUJM6)

438 There ya go Tim... I would also point you to your own recommendation of Drudge's lying headlines but that is not directly repeating the lies so I won't.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 08:28 PM (nUJM6)

*****

Ummmm....Trump didn't say that, a commenter here did. So, how is that repeating "Trumps lies"? That was the original question, remember?

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 08:30 PM (YLidQ)

439 Ummmm....Trump didn't say that, a commenter here
did. So, how is that repeating "Trumps lies"? That was the original
question, remember?

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 08:30 PM (YLidQ)

You response is disingenuous in the extreme, Tim. Trump is the one who started the"stealing delegates" BS... you guys are just repeating it.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 08:33 PM (nUJM6)

440 You response is disingenuous in the extreme, Tim. Trump is the one who started the"stealing delegates" BS... you guys are just repeating it.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 08:33 PM (nUJM6)

******

I asked for an example of someone repeating "Trumps lies" in this thread, as you alleged. Now, can you please tell me the post number of the person that repeated a "Trump lie" in this thread?

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 08:35 PM (YLidQ)

441 Maybe Cruz can win a voterless victory in November also. That would be cool.

Posted by: @votermom at April 16, 2016 08:37 PM (nbrY/)

442
Maybe Cruz can win a voterless victory in November also. That would be cool.

Posted by: @votermom at April 16, 2016 08:37 PM (nbrY/)

And here is another example, Tim.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 08:39 PM (nUJM6)

443 And here is another example, Tim.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 08:39 PM (nUJM6)

*****

Of something Trump "lied" about and someone repeated? No, it is not. It is something a commenter here said. Do I need to draw you a little picture or start typing m o r e. S l o w l y?

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 08:42 PM (YLidQ)

444 Of something Trump "lied" about and someone
repeated? No, it is not. It is something a commenter here said. Do I
need to draw you a little picture or start typing m o r e. S l o w l y?

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 08:42 PM (YLidQ)

To quote Samuel Johnson, sir, I have found you an idea but I am not obliged to find you an understanding.

Nor am I willing to repeat myself because you are being deliberately obtuse.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 08:46 PM (nUJM6)

445 Hey, how is what I said a lie? It's an expression of optimism. If Cruz is the nominee, we want him to win, right? Most likely a lot of Trump supporters won't vote for him. Neither will independents. Nor the Dems.
Maybe he'll manage to somehow get the delegates anyway.

Posted by: @votermom at April 16, 2016 08:48 PM (nbrY/)

446 To quote Samuel Johnson, sir, I have found you an idea but I am not obliged to find you an understanding.

Nor am I willing to repeat myself because you are being deliberately obtuse.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 16, 2016 08:46 PM (nUJM6)

****

To quote me, I can explain it to you but I can not comprehend it for you. Way up thread. Go check it out. Go on now. Off with you....

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 08:49 PM (YLidQ)

447 https://hotgas.net/2016/04/sharon-stone-another-
holocaust-trump/

These are the kind of people you are casting your lot in with. How's that feeling?

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 16, 2016 08:55 PM (YLidQ)

448 I'm sorry redbanzai, I guess I was teasing you. You are always so grim and serious about Trump v Cruz.

Posted by: @votermom at April 16, 2016 09:14 PM (nbrY/)

449 Why are Springsteen and Williams supporting "rape culture" and engaging in a war on women?

Can't someone call Sabrina Erdely? She would take care of this!!!!!

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