Mid-Morning Open Thread [CBD]

The Matchmaker
Gerard van Honthorst

Posted by: Open Blogger at 10:30 AM

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1 I like that.

Posted by: HH at April 04, 2016 10:28 AM (DrCtv)

2 Cleavage!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 10:29 AM (NsI03)

3 Pretty girl art!

Posted by: IP at April 04, 2016 10:30 AM (aQQbl)

4 I could film that.

Posted by: Zombie Stanley Kubrick at April 04, 2016 10:30 AM (SCcgT)

5 Hittable!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 10:30 AM (NsI03)

6 When you stare into the abyss...

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 10:31 AM (NeFrd)

7 Those are some well-lit breasts. Old Gerard wanted us to notice something.

Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at April 04, 2016 10:31 AM (v9gSJ)

8
Musician chicks put out. Everyone knows that.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 04, 2016 10:32 AM (SHfcd)

9 Is he pointing at her boobs while the other guy is offering some support?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 04, 2016 10:32 AM (YqcVw)

10 Back from my bi-weekly people of Walmart trip. Just in time to see cleavage. Yeah, I could match up with that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 04, 2016 10:32 AM (vvmPQ)

11 I could film that.

So could I!
Posted by: Creepy Guy in the Mall

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 10:32 AM (NsI03)

12 See now I hate Art Threads since I have no class, but them there are nice Bazooms!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 04, 2016 10:32 AM (mw8Dm)

13 It looks like the matchmaker is pointing out the young lass's assets.

Posted by: no good deed at April 04, 2016 10:33 AM (GgxVX)

14 I like this art more than normally. Not sure why. Something I can't quite put my finger on.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 04, 2016 10:33 AM (KUaJL)

15

Sniper on Leave in Antwerp
by Gerard van Honthorst

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 04, 2016 10:34 AM (SHfcd)

16 I like how the artist paid so much attention to detail in this one. They really look lifelike.

Posted by: Global Warming made Hillary a drunk at April 04, 2016 10:34 AM (NBhge)

17 13 It looks like the matchmaker is pointing out the young lass's assets.
Posted by: no good deed at April 04, 2016 10:33 AM (GgxVX)

But the guy ain't looking.
Probably light in the tights.

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 10:34 AM (nbrY/)

18 Finally ... A painting I can actually appreciate.

Really ... I'm busting with appreciation for this one. This painting has performed a vitual cleavage, removing my previous mental block against appreciating the medium. I'd put this work in the rack of greatest paintings ever.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 04, 2016 10:34 AM (W+w2W)

19 Well lit chick is the madame. Shadow girl is the working girl.
John is standing and arguing price.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 10:34 AM (NsI03)

20 "Aye, captain, they're threatening to break containment!"

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 04, 2016 10:34 AM (PpNN2)

21 Her outfit looks painted on

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at April 04, 2016 10:35 AM (m3iiU)

22 If the first thing you noticed was the feather in her hair, you might be gay.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 04, 2016 10:35 AM (YqcVw)

23 RD Brewer never posted art like those! ... uh, I mean, like that!

Nice use of lighting.

Morning, y'all. I'm a thread behind, but I think I can get through the headlines pretty quickly, and I'll be back... in time for the next thread?

Posted by: mindful webworker - art schmarty at April 04, 2016 10:35 AM (I9SqL)

24 >>John is standing and arguing price.

Jane maybe. That's a woman.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2016 10:35 AM (/tuJf)

25 It's a TRAP!!!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2016 10:36 AM (0mRoj)

26 "Larry, I'd like to introduce you to my friend Mortimer. I think you two are really going to hit it off."

Posted by: Suzie Bazoom, the Matchmaker at April 04, 2016 10:36 AM (NeFrd)

27 Jane maybe. That's a woman.

You're right. Ugly old crone.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 10:36 AM (NsI03)

28 He's checking his hand size

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 04, 2016 10:37 AM (Qvgg/)

29 Great eye/hand coordination.

Posted by: Corona at April 04, 2016 10:37 AM (ragzU)

30 Her outfit looks painted on

I have tequila. The original paint remover. IYKWIMAIKTYD

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 10:37 AM (NsI03)

31 Judging by the comments so far we need some gender clarification here.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 10:38 AM (NeFrd)

32 This ends with the guy waking up in a tub filled with ice and missing a kidney.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2016 10:38 AM (0mRoj)

33 Under my plan, everyone will have free tits like those.

Posted by: Bernie, 2016. at April 04, 2016 10:38 AM (ptqRm)

34 Master Cobain, I wouldst like to present to you to her Lady in Waiting, Courtney Love.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 04, 2016 10:38 AM (YqcVw)

35 "RD Brewer never posted art like those! ... uh, I mean, like that! "

But what happens to everyone who loves drab, out-of-focus landscapes?

Posted by: jwest at April 04, 2016 10:38 AM (Zs4uk)

36 Negotiating price by candlelight in the inn.

Posted by: kraken at April 04, 2016 10:39 AM (sdxPm)

37 Is that well endowed woman holding a paddle? What the hell kind of place is this??

Ace of Spades HQ. Come for the Trump wars, stay for the Sadomasochism.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2016 10:39 AM (2PHKP)

38 Judging by the comments so far we need some gender clarification here.

Upon further review:
Standing - Old crone Madame
Sitting shaded - The mark
Sitting lighted - working girl

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 10:40 AM (NsI03)

39 350 yr old porn.. gotta love it.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 04, 2016 10:40 AM (so+oy)

40 33 Under my plan, everyone will have free tits like those.

Posted by: Bernie, 2016. at April 04, 2016 10:38 AM (ptqRm)

They implemented that plan in Brazil and the results have been impressive.

Bernie just might make it...

Posted by: jwest at April 04, 2016 10:40 AM (Zs4uk)

41 Pull my finger. . .

Posted by: Dude on the Left at April 04, 2016 10:40 AM (YqcVw)

42 Very Caravaggesque

*acting like I know what the hell I'm talking about

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 04, 2016 10:40 AM (mEZce)

43 "RD Brewer never posted art like those! ... uh, I mean, like that! "

But what happens to everyone who loves drab, out-of-focus landscapes?

They learn to appreciate bewbs?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 10:41 AM (NsI03)

44
Musician chicks put out. Everyone knows that.

You've never met Mrs P, I see.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2016 10:41 AM (X6fMO)

45 The painting has only one element of symbolism, the lute.
The lute in the matchmakers hands indicates Love, sex, or a woman's genitals based on context, theme, or subject. - Google

I don't know about you but I love a good lute.

Posted by: IP at April 04, 2016 10:41 AM (aQQbl)

46
I saw Light in the Tights open for Right Said Fred at the Cow Palace back in '99.

My lefty girlfriend dragged me along on our second date. Relationship didn't last long, I think she eats the box lunch now.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 04, 2016 10:41 AM (SHfcd)

47 Googled this one up ...

... Apparently, the lute was signalling for naughty bits back in the day. Some debate among "experts" if Miss Big Uns is a prostitute or madaam.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 04, 2016 10:41 AM (W+w2W)

48 A fetching young strumpet, to pass the night away with.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 04, 2016 10:41 AM (ptqRm)

49 Person standing is the matchmaker, making introductions all around. Well-lit chick is the girl. Guy with feather is the matchee. The breasts being front and center and well-lit is probably not an accident. Those matchmakers were pretty shrewd marketers.

Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at April 04, 2016 10:41 AM (v9gSJ)

50 Your love line has intersected your love line, tonight, Hans. I see the pox in your future. Your friend over there is extra. Please turn off your cap lamp."

Posted by: kraken at April 04, 2016 10:41 AM (sdxPm)

51
Painting caption:

"Lazar Wolf?! Oy!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 10:42 AM (p4UlV)

52 Now THAT'S art!

Posted by: blaster at April 04, 2016 10:42 AM (sKoAw)

53 Is that well endowed woman holding a paddle? What the hell kind of place is this??

Ace of Spades HQ. Come for the Trump wars, stay for the Sadomasochism.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
............
It's a lute.. but can also be used as a paddle!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 04, 2016 10:42 AM (so+oy)

54 Alt title: It's hard out there for a pimp

Posted by: blaster at April 04, 2016 10:43 AM (sKoAw)

55 If Waldo is wearing a hat that looks like an areola, I think I see him

Posted by: Bruce at April 04, 2016 10:43 AM (8ikIW)

56
Under my plan, everyone will have free tits like those.

Posted by: Bernie, 2016. at April 04, 2016 10:38 AM (ptqRm)

Unfortunately, they'll all be attached to our backs.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 04, 2016 10:43 AM (SHfcd)

57 I don't know about you but I love a good lute.

Bet she can "finger" those strings.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 10:43 AM (NsI03)

58 The Matchmaker

Yes, those are a pretty pair.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at April 04, 2016 10:43 AM (rJOC2)

59
I miss rdbrewer.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 10:43 AM (iQIUe)

60 Ah... the dinner scene from Tom Jones.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 04, 2016 10:44 AM (9mTYi)

61
Skype interview coming up for a potential job. It's with people I've worked with in the past as a freelancer, but they are looking to pinch a penny and are calling the gig a junior position. Hope I can convince them otherwise or wangle some kind of arrangement vis a vis less time. Wish me luck.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 10:44 AM (p4UlV)

62 Ah, a lute. My mistake.

But that begs the question, can she play the lute and the flute at the same time?

I'll see myself out.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2016 10:44 AM (2PHKP)

63 Best of all sir, the girl with the lute is a mute!

Posted by: Bruce at April 04, 2016 10:44 AM (8ikIW)

64 60 Ah... the dinner scene from Tom Jones.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 04, 2016 10:44 AM (9mTYi)

They're going to fling their panties at each other?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 10:44 AM (p4UlV)

65 Tomorrow, can we have "art" with Stormy Daniels ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 04, 2016 10:44 AM (W+w2W)

66 If one were to click on the image, and expand the resulting artwork, the dude has his cloth purse, with a drawstring in his left hand.

He's fixing' to rent for the evening!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 04, 2016 10:44 AM (ptqRm)

67 Play Freebird!

Posted by: drunk dude with a satchel of money at April 04, 2016 10:44 AM (2WoCi)

68 61
Skype interview coming up for a potential job. It's with people I've worked with in the past as a freelancer, but they are looking to pinch a penny and are calling the gig a junior position. Hope I can convince them otherwise or wangle some kind of arrangement vis a vis less time. Wish me luck.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 10:44 AM (p4UlV)

Break a leg!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2016 10:44 AM (0mRoj)

69 63 Best of all sir, the girl with the lute is a mute!
Posted by: Bruce at April 04, 2016 10:44 AM (8ikIW)

And she'll turn you into a newt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 10:45 AM (p4UlV)

70 Good luck, Sefton!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 10:45 AM (iQIUe)

71 Her lute has a broken G String.

Posted by: IP at April 04, 2016 10:46 AM (aQQbl)

72 Where is rdbrewer anyway?
Love CBD' s art picks but I miss rd

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 10:46 AM (nbrY/)

73
Thanks, kids. We shall see.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 10:46 AM (p4UlV)

74 *caption for above picture*

As you can see, Sirrah, she is a virtuous maiden.

With wonderful ganzongas, which I have highlighted for your perusal.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2016 10:46 AM (0cMkb)

75
63 Best of all sir, the girl with the lute is a mute!
Posted by: Bruce at April 04, 2016 10:44 AM (8ikIW)

And she'll turn you into a newt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 10:45 AM (p4UlV)

Why do you have to be such a brute?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 04, 2016 10:46 AM (SHfcd)

76 I don't know about you but I love a good lute.

Posted by: IP at April 04, 2016 10:41 AM (aQQbl)

****

I'll bet her lute smells like fisk.

Posted by: Scandi art critic at April 04, 2016 10:46 AM (NeFrd)

77 Look at my wife Melania and then look at the lute girl.

The images are worth a thousand words.

Posted by: Donald Trump at April 04, 2016 10:46 AM (YqcVw)

78 The painting has only one element of symbolism, the lute.

I guess a flute would have been too on the money.

Posted by: no good deed at April 04, 2016 10:47 AM (GgxVX)

79 Her lute has a broken G String.

She took it off. It kept getting in the way.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 10:47 AM (NsI03)

80 75 Why do you have to be such a brute?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 04, 2016 10:46 AM (SHfcd)

She's cute, and not a horse's patoot.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 10:47 AM (p4UlV)

81 Skype interview coming up for a potential job. It's with people I've worked with in the past as a freelancer, but they are looking to pinch a penny and are calling the gig a junior position. Hope I can convince them otherwise or wangle some kind of arrangement vis a vis less time. Wish me luck.
...........
Good luck, J.J.

yeah.. everything is a junior position these days.. part time.. keep under 30 hours for O'Care regs..

This country has gone to hell in a handbasket..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 04, 2016 10:47 AM (so+oy)

82 All three are infested with head lice.

Posted by: eman at April 04, 2016 10:47 AM (MQEz6)

83 "pCbapbn pshbe cpoobk?"

He asked, motorboatingly.

Posted by: DaveA at April 04, 2016 10:47 AM (DL2i+)

84 Cheaper to rent than buy in this case.

Although really, with no fault divorce, it's more like a long term lease with a really pricey buyout initiable by the bank.

Not a good deal.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 04, 2016 10:47 AM (W+w2W)

85 Hope he brought some tincture of mercury for the VD he's sure to get.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2016 10:48 AM (0mRoj)

86 Wish me luck.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton
----------------

Bonne chance!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, bringing classy to AoSHQ at April 04, 2016 10:48 AM (9mTYi)

87 76 I'll bet her lute smells like fisk.
Posted by: Scandi art critic at April 04, 2016 10:46 AM (NeFrd)

Where's Carlton (the doorman)?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 10:48 AM (p4UlV)

88
75 Why do you have to be such a brute?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 04, 2016 10:46 AM (SHfcd)

She's cute, and not a horse's patoot.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 10:47 AM (p4UlV)

You're such a hoot.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 04, 2016 10:48 AM (SHfcd)

89 The Girl with the Lute is up for some toot.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 04, 2016 10:48 AM (YqcVw)

90 Elbows in the off season!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 04, 2016 10:48 AM (r65B3)

91 Bumped from last thread because I got up late, and wrote a lot of words, and everyone ran off over here.....

256 I will gladly cross over and vote for Cruz if he is the no inee If there are hijinks and it's not Trump or Cruz, see ya'!
Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 10:27 AM (NsI03)

I've thought about this scenario you paint, thought about it too much actually. I am a Cruzer now, (one of those goofy looking cars that look like an old delivery vehicle).
As I think about it, Cruz is the PT Cruiser, and Trump is the behemoth Sedan with tail fins. Hillary is a battered Explorer, and Bernie is a Yugo, or probably a Fiat, the car from Hell.
But I digress. Should I really stay home, rick, if they steal a nomination? What to do, what to do......

Posted by: kraken at April 04, 2016 10:48 AM (sdxPm)

92 Cultural Integration and Assimilation- The alternative to deporting 11 million illegal immigrants (or maybe the first step):

How inhumane would it be to demand cultural integration? Compared to deportation, wouldn't it be a reasonable step to resolving the immigration issues we are having? Why or why not? Why do we have ballots in 37 different languages? Why do we offer translators in courts, paid for by the government? Go to a hospital, and it's the same way.

And how many would self-deport if they were not comfortable with a more uniformly defined "American culture"? Wouldn't that begin a self-correcting process of assimilation?

To those who say that "you can't deport 11 million immigrants", would you object to having a more uniform culture, an assimilated culture? Or do you want to "honor" the "macho" latin culture, that also includes the corruption and crime that companies it? (Yes, not all latin-American immigrants are criminals, but they come from cultures where that behavior is tolerated, mostly out of life-preserving necessity, don't you think?)

This may be preaching to the choir, but why isn't assimilation and integration more a topic of the political discourse, rather than the bipolar argument about deportation?

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 04, 2016 10:48 AM (9xIiZ)

93 Why do you have to be such a brute?

But she is kind of cute

Posted by: Bruce at April 04, 2016 10:48 AM (8ikIW)

94 I'd like to find the fountain of yute.

Posted by: Vinny at April 04, 2016 10:48 AM (2PHKP)

95 Under my plan, everyone will have free tits like those.

Posted by: Bernie, 2016. at April 04, 2016 10:38 AM (ptqRm)

Unfortunately, they'll all be attached to our backs.

*****

I predict a comeback for slow dancing.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 10:48 AM (NeFrd)

96
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 10:44 AM (p4UlV)

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And with that, sir, you destroyed the race to 100 comments of nothing but dirty jokes about the artwork.

Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 10:49 AM (pC96u)

97 Dear FOXNEWS;

Donald Trump is not the only person on the planet.

Sincerely,

The Other Six Billion People On the Planet.

Posted by: The Wolf Who Cried Boy at April 04, 2016 10:49 AM (Ndje9)

98 350 yr old porn.. gotta love it.

My last trip to the Louvre, I spent the day taking pictures of the old porn. There was a LOT of it, and this picture wouldn't have made the cut.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 04, 2016 10:49 AM (SjeCh)

99 Just who is the matchmaker and who is the matchmakee?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 04, 2016 10:49 AM (FkBIv)

100 89 The Girl with the Lute is up for some toot.

The Girl with the Lute is gonna take it up the patoot.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 10:50 AM (NsI03)

101
hundey!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 04, 2016 10:50 AM (SHfcd)

102
shit

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 04, 2016 10:50 AM (SHfcd)

103 Trump wants a brokered convention as much as the GOP. That way he can still claim that he was the victor without having the responsibility and work of running and losing in the General.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 04, 2016 10:50 AM (KEA7I)

104 81 yeah.. everything is a junior position these days.. part time.. keep under 30 hours for O'Care regs..

This country has gone to hell in a handbasket..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 04, 2016 10:47 AM (so+oy)

30 hours on the record. You don't punch a clock at an ad agency. Unless you're in a union job, like janitor or something. I'll be working long hours unless I can negotiate less time in-house in exchange for taking less than my going rate.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 10:51 AM (p4UlV)

105 Hah, in Dutch or whatever the painting's titled "De koppelaarster". Sounds dirty.

Posted by: I think you have to pay extra for it at April 04, 2016 10:51 AM (2WoCi)

106 Cleavage...

Posted by: Sven10077 at April 04, 2016 10:51 AM (5QyYN)

107 Posted by: Vinny at April 04, 2016 10:48 AM (2PHKP)

Excuse me, did you just say yute?

Posted by: IP at April 04, 2016 10:51 AM (aQQbl)

108 The painting has only one element of symbolism, the lute.

I guess a flute would have been too on the money.----------no good deed

Tacos had yet to be invented.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at April 04, 2016 10:51 AM (m3iiU)

109 I believe her instruments of merriment lack a proper tuning.

Posted by: Fritz at April 04, 2016 10:51 AM (UzPAd)

110 Is that a M.I.L.K i see before me..ex squeeze me x2...looks like she has a FULL House and the dude is pissed................

Posted by: saf at April 04, 2016 10:51 AM (qKiBT)

111 Another one of those landscape paintings where one is distracted from the forest by the trees.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, bringing classy to AoSHQ at April 04, 2016 10:51 AM (9mTYi)

112 Good luck JJ

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 04, 2016 10:51 AM (SjeCh)

113 96 Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 10:49 AM (pC96u)

I really pulled a boner, didn't I.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 10:52 AM (p4UlV)

114 I'm not sure what you all are harping about. It just seems like you're all just a bunch of filthy lyres!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 10:52 AM (NeFrd)

115
This may be preaching to the choir, but why isn't assimilation and integration more a topic of the political discourse, rather than the bipolar argument about deportation?

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 04, 2016 10:48 AM (9xIiZ)
-------------------

Here's another one: I can recall at least one naturalized guy from China convicted of spying who told the judge that he flat-out lied when he took the loyalty oath.

How about consequences for that? It's perjury or lying to an official, isn't it? How about stripping U.S. citizenship from people whose actions if not their baldfaced confessions demonstrate bad faith in the loyalty oath?

Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 10:52 AM (pC96u)

116 This may be preaching to the choir, but why isn't assimilation and integration more a topic of the political discourse, rather than the bipolar argument about deportation?
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 04, 2016 10:48 AM (9xIiZ)

Because the left doesn't want that, any more than they actually want to lift the inner cities out of poverty.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 04, 2016 10:52 AM (KUaJL)

117 109 I believe her instruments of merriment lack a proper tuning.
Posted by: Fritz at April 04, 2016 10:51 AM (UzPAd)

"This one has been plucked!"

- - from "Shakespeare In Love"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 10:52 AM (p4UlV)

118 I shall rename this painting:

"One Night at a Small Inn Outside of Brest"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 10:53 AM (NeFrd)

119 98 350 yr old porn.. gotta love it.

My last trip to the Louvre, I spent the day taking pictures of the old porn. There was a LOT of it, and this picture wouldn't have made the cut.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 04, 2016 10:49 AM (SjeCh)

So Dave, by chance do you have some of those pictures online somewhere? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at April 04, 2016 10:53 AM (v9gSJ)

120 Puns just aren't my pianoforte.

Posted by: no good deed at April 04, 2016 10:53 AM (GgxVX)

121 113 96 Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 10:49 AM (pC96u)

I really pulled a boner, didn't I.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 10:52 AM (p4UlV)

Just don't pull your boner during the interview. Unless its relevant to the job.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2016 10:53 AM (0mRoj)

122 117 109 I believe her instruments of merriment lack a proper tuning.
Posted by: Fritz at April 04, 2016 10:51 AM (UzPAd)

"This one has been plucked!"

- - from "Shakespeare In Love"

Pluck yew!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 10:54 AM (NsI03)

123 121
Just don't pull your boner during the interview. Unless its relevant to the job.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2016 10:53 AM (0mRoj)

I always thought that the actor Peter Bonerz must have got the shit kicked out of him at school for that name.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 10:54 AM (p4UlV)

124 I really pulled a boner, didn't I.

Don't do that at the Skype interview.

Posted by: Bruce at April 04, 2016 10:54 AM (8ikIW)

125 For gazing upon this lustful depiction, we must cut off all your heads.

Except for the one poster, who we need to throw off a building.

Posted by: ISIS, Jayvee Square, Raqqa at April 04, 2016 10:54 AM (YqcVw)

126
I know a bank where the wild thyme blows,
Where oxlips and the nodding violet grows,
Quite overcanopied with luscious woodbine,
With sweet musk roses and with eglantine....

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 10:54 AM (iQIUe)

127 Cleavage...

Posted by: Sven10077

******

Sven. Ever the master of understatement.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 10:54 AM (NeFrd)

128
I really pulled a boner, didn't I.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 10:52 AM (p4UlV)
---------------------

Too little too late. (Or would that be too *soon*?)

Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 10:55 AM (pC96u)

129
121 113 96 Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 10:49 AM (pC96u)

I really pulled a boner, didn't I.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 10:52 AM (p4UlV)

Just don't pull your boner during the interview. Unless its relevant to the job.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2016 10:53 AM (0mRoj)

Well, if the interview's via Skype, that pretty much mandates that he do it while pantsless.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 04, 2016 10:55 AM (SHfcd)

130 122 Pluck yew!
Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 10:54 AM (NsI03)

There was a chain of chicken joints here called Pluck U.

Now defunct.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 10:55 AM (p4UlV)

131 Awakening up, he took her hollow lute,---
Tumultuous,---and, in chords that tenderest be,
He play'd an ancient ditty, long since mute,
In Provence call'd, "La belle dame sans mercy:"

Posted by: Bruce at April 04, 2016 10:55 AM (8ikIW)

132
This may be preaching to the choir, but why isn't assimilation and integration more a topic of the political discourse, rather than the bipolar argument about deportation?

Just spitballing here, but I'd say that over 50 years of teaching elementary, high school and college students that America is a uniquely evil, racist country and that Western culture is of no more worth than a Ubangi woman squatting over a fire roasting insects might have contributed.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2016 10:55 AM (X6fMO)

133 Cleavage...

Posted by: Sven10077

******

Sven. Ever the master of understatement.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon

See #2.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 10:55 AM (NsI03)

134 128 Too little too late. (Or would that be too *soon*?)
Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 10:55 AM (pC96u)

Reminds me of Johnny Mathis.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 10:55 AM (p4UlV)

135 They met on Lyre Harmony.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 04, 2016 10:56 AM (KEA7I)

136 "One Night at a Small Inn Outside of Brest"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon

****

Oops. I meant Brussels. Must have been distracted.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 10:56 AM (NeFrd)

137
Okay. Here we go!

Later!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 10:56 AM (p4UlV)

138 Perhaps it's best to see your future spouse in full daylight. Just sayin.

Posted by: Captain Oblivious at April 04, 2016 10:56 AM (UwQ7q)

139 Cleavage!

Posted by: rickb223

*****

rickb223- ever the master of understatement.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 10:57 AM (NeFrd)

140 Ye Olde Tyndre. Swypeth thou ryte or lefte?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2016 10:57 AM (0mRoj)

141
I always thought that the actor Peter Bonerz must have got the shit kicked out of him at school for that name.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

That's why he changed it to Jerry Robinson.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 04, 2016 10:57 AM (FkBIv)

142
Because the left doesn't want that.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 04, 2016 10:52 AM (KUaJL)
------------------------

Although it scarcely needs clarification, I'd say the GOPe doesn't want it either.

Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 10:57 AM (pC96u)

143 Perhaps it's best to see your future spouse in full daylight. Just sayin.

Posted by: Captain Oblivious

It's best. You can kick the tires and make sure she's not dented and the frame straight. Crawl underneath and check for leaks and drips.

Posted by: Bruce at April 04, 2016 10:58 AM (8ikIW)

144 Those are some shiny bobbles she's bargaining with.

Posted by: Soona at April 04, 2016 10:58 AM (Fmupd)

145 138 Perhaps it's best to see your future spouse in full daylight. Just sayin.
Posted by: Captain Oblivious at April 04, 2016 10:56 AM (UwQ7q)

I think she's a working girl.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2016 10:58 AM (0mRoj)

146
She was a phantom of delight
When first she gleam'd upon my sight
A lovely apparition sent
To be a moment's ornament.

-Bill Wordsworth

Posted by: mrp at April 04, 2016 10:59 AM (JBggj)

147 Seamus Muldoon - 'Ruin', pg. 82, "Our baptism under fire was purely Baptist, i.e., Full Immersion."

That there is prize writing.

*salutes Muldoon's dad*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, bringing classy to AoSHQ at April 04, 2016 10:59 AM (9mTYi)

148 Crawl underneath and check for leaks and drips.
Posted by: Bruce at April 04, 2016 10:58 AM (8ikIW)

Uh.. well it was the 17th century after all

Posted by: IP at April 04, 2016 10:59 AM (aQQbl)

149 143 Perhaps it's best to see your future spouse in full daylight. Just sayin.

Posted by: Captain Oblivious

It's best. You can kick the tires and make sure she's not dented and the frame straight. Crawl underneath and check for leaks and drips.
Posted by: Bruce at April 04, 2016 10:58 AM (8ikIW)

Don't forget the psych evaluation and criminal background check.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2016 11:00 AM (0mRoj)

150 Uh.. well it was the 17th century after all

Posted by: IP

Back then I'm thinking you'd be hard pressed not to find one that left a puddle.

Posted by: Bruce at April 04, 2016 11:00 AM (8ikIW)

151 The Dutch Masters made such wonderful use of light. Love it. Oh, and boobies!

Posted by: Pug Mahon at April 04, 2016 11:00 AM (RwwCT)

152 That there is prize writing.

*salutes Muldoon's dad*

Posted by: Mike Hammer,

****

Truth be told, Dad wrote half the book.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 11:00 AM (NeFrd)

153 I believe this lute has been played before...

Posted by: Pointy Fingered Dude at April 04, 2016 11:01 AM (aQQbl)

154 138 Perhaps it's best to see your future spouse in full daylight. Just sayin.
Posted by: Captain Oblivious at April 04, 2016 10:56 AM (UwQ7q)

I'm thinking the man is too well lubricated to see the wisdom of that. The tits might be this girl's chief asset and the darkness and a handle of ale hides some of her...drawbacks.

Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at April 04, 2016 11:02 AM (v9gSJ)

155 I believe this lute has been played before...

Posted by: Pointy Fingered Dude

****

Don't fret!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 11:03 AM (NeFrd)

156 When I was a lad,
I met a young strumpet.
While I played with her lute,
She blew on my trumpet.

Burma Shave

Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 04, 2016 11:03 AM (wtvvX)

157 I believe this lute has been played before...

Posted by: Pointy Fingered Dude

****

Don't fret!
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon

Golf clap.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 11:04 AM (NsI03)

158 154 138 Perhaps it's best to see your future spouse in full daylight. Just sayin.
Posted by: Captain Oblivious at April 04, 2016 10:56 AM (UwQ7q)

I'm thinking the man is too well lubricated to see the wisdom of that. The tits might be this girl's chief asset and the darkness and a handle of ale hides some of her...drawbacks.

That's why you rent instead of buy.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 11:05 AM (NsI03)

159 AND . . . I'm back. That was quick. Actually it was more of a quick chat to talk about where they're at financially, etc. etc. and then to sort of see what next steps might be. Stay tuned. Still in the hunt. I think.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 11:05 AM (p4UlV)

160
Sir Thomas Moore was trying to marry his daughters off. He thought he had a potential suitor, took him into the bedroom of two of his daughter, pulled off their bed covers where they were lying naked to show the guy what he would be getting.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 11:05 AM (iQIUe)

161 Burma Shave
Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 04, 2016 11:03 AM (wtvvX)

Oh damn, now that's funny.

Posted by: IP at April 04, 2016 11:06 AM (aQQbl)

162 Truth be told, Dad wrote half the book.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
--------------------

This a.m. had breakfast with a VN veteran, who was an infantry Battalion Commander while there. Interesting breakfast.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, bringing classy to AoSHQ at April 04, 2016 11:06 AM (9mTYi)

163 Sir Thomas Moore was trying to marry his daughters off. He thought he had a potential suitor, took him into the bedroom of two of his daughter, pulled off their bed covers where they were lying naked to show the guy what he would be getting.

Always check their teeth, gums, & hooves!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 11:07 AM (NsI03)

164 This painting is OK, but it nothing compared to my other work...

Mentos: The Fresh Maker

Posted by: zombie Gerard van Honthorst at April 04, 2016 11:08 AM (H9MG5)

165 I'm thinking the man is too well lubricated to see the wisdom of that. The tits might be this girl's chief asset and the darkness and a handle of ale hides some of her...drawbacks.
----------------

The undoing of many young men late at night, in dark taverns. Or so I am told...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, bringing classy to AoSHQ at April 04, 2016 11:08 AM (9mTYi)

166 Always check their teeth, gums, & hooves!
Posted by: rickb223
---------------

Unless it's a gift.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, bringing classy to AoSHQ at April 04, 2016 11:08 AM (9mTYi)

167
Sir Thomas Moore was trying to marry his daughters off. He thought he had a potential suitor, took him into the bedroom of two of his daughter, pulled off their bed covers where they were lying naked to show the guy what he would be getting.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 11:05 AM (iQIUe)

Do I get them both?

/IllTemperedCur's Great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 04, 2016 11:09 AM (SHfcd)

168 Anybody see the preview to Fear The Walking Dead? It appears their beach house has been overrun. This is Malibu. How hard would it have been to set up a barrier or two? The roads are few and the natural terrain would be a bitch for walkers. But, nooooooo. Now they are burning stuff on the beach instead of makng for the boat. Now why wd the walkers head for this guys beach house, anyway? Can walkers smell live people?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 11:09 AM (iQIUe)

169 133 Cleavage...

Posted by: Sven10077

******

Sven. Ever the master of understatement.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon

See #2.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 10:55 AM (NsI03)

It was the breast of times.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 04, 2016 11:09 AM (voOPb)

170 The Establishment Thinks the Key to Victory is nominating the Amnesty-supporting, budget-busting, Democrat-caving Paul Ryan.

I don't get why people say they are so out-of-touch.

Posted by: V the K at April 04, 2016 11:09 AM (O7MnT)

171 I believe this lute has been played before...

Posted by: Pointy Fingered Dude

****

Don't fret!
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon

----------------

Um... I dunno. There might be strings attached.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, bringing classy to AoSHQ at April 04, 2016 11:10 AM (9mTYi)

172 The Establishment Thinks the Key to Victory is nominating the Amnesty-supporting, budget-busting, Democrat-caving Paul Ryan.

Posted by: V the K at April 04, 2016 11:09 AM (O7MnT)

and yet, here I sit admiring 350 year old ta-tas.

Posted by: IP at April 04, 2016 11:10 AM (aQQbl)

173
Now why wd the walkers head for this guys beach house, anyway? Can walkers smell live people?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 11:09 AM (iQIUe)

Probably using lights at night and making a shitload of noise.

Plus, the junkie-son is almost certainly slipping out and raiding the neighbors' houses for drugs and leading them back.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 04, 2016 11:11 AM (SHfcd)

174 Interesting breakfast.

Posted by: Mike Hammer

*****

Anything in particular worth sharing?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 11:11 AM (NeFrd)

175 How hard would it have been to set up a barrier or two? The roads are few and the natural terrain would be a bitch for walkers. But, nooooooo. Now they are burning stuff on the beach instead of makng for the boat. Now why wd the walkers head for this guys beach house, anyway? Can walkers smell live people?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!
----------------

Hold it... there are *dead* people walking around, and yet you question the plot line?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, bringing classy to AoSHQ at April 04, 2016 11:12 AM (9mTYi)

176 >>The Establishment Thinks the Key to Victory is nominating the Amnesty-supporting, budget-busting, Democrat-caving Paul Ryan.

Maybe. But it would be tough for Ryan to put out a more emphatic statement that he will not be a candidate this cycle. Period.

I would have thought with all of the establishment candidates flaming out so badly this time around some of the conspiracy theories about the establishment controlling everything would have died off. I guess not.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2016 11:12 AM (/tuJf)

177
Tits were big in Elizabethan times. A visitor to the Queens's court complained that he could not only see the queen's tits but her navel, too.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 11:12 AM (iQIUe)

178 and yet, here I sit admiring 350 year old ta-tas.

Posted by: IP at April 04, 2016 11:10 AM (aQQbl)
_______________________________

So you like what I'm sportin'?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 04, 2016 11:12 AM (HSmrB)

179 Am I the only one who finds it interesting, that in a Constitutional Republic, the electorate can be shut out of the process of selecting delegates?

As has happened in Colorado and N.Dakota.

That an "Insider" would have the advantage.

The Cruzbots are having a good laugh about it... But, the joke is on the electorate.

I WAS sort of sitting on the fence.

Not any more.

Posted by: franksalterego at April 04, 2016 11:13 AM (Cd+Fa)

180 van Honthorst and instruments.

Posted by: auscolpyr at April 04, 2016 11:13 AM (suO/a)

181
Hold it... there are *dead* people walking around, and yet you question the plot line?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, bringing classy to AoSHQ at April 04, 2016 11:12 AM (9mTYi)

Hey, Night of the Living Dead was a documentary.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 04, 2016 11:13 AM (SHfcd)

182 Anything in particular worth sharing?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
-----------

Nothing that I will.
I talk to Vets quite a bit.
This just isn't the venue.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, bringing classy to AoSHQ at April 04, 2016 11:14 AM (9mTYi)

183 This may be preaching to the choir, but why isn't assimilation and integration more a topic of the political discourse, rather than the bipolar argument about deportation?

Posted by: Guy Fawkes

It's a losing strategy as it will be portrayed as "don't act Mexican, act white"

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 11:14 AM (BILR8)

184 This just isn't the venue.

****

Fair enough.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 11:15 AM (NeFrd)

185 BOHICA California.

Californian Lt. Governor Gavin Newsom is hitching his 2018 gubernatorial campaign to a statewide ballot proposal that would sharply restrict the sale of ammunition.

'It seems to me the most dangerous part of the weapon is not the weapon itself, it's the ammunition,' he said April 1.

He wants anyone buying ammunition to endure a background check similar to the one that would-be gun buyers currently have to pass to buy a firearm.

http://tinyurl.com/jyb8kx2

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 04, 2016 11:15 AM (mEZce)

186 Nothing that I will.
I talk to Vets quite a bit.
This just isn't the venue.

Burma shave.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2016 11:15 AM (0mRoj)

187 Amazing details in the painting when observing closely in full screen.

Posted by: mrp at April 04, 2016 11:15 AM (JBggj)

188 and yet, here I sit admiring 350 year old ta-tas.

Posted by: IP
----------------

In a world filled with change, it is comforting to know that there are some constants.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, bringing classy to AoSHQ at April 04, 2016 11:15 AM (9mTYi)

189 Am I the only one who finds it interesting, that in a Constitutional Republic, the electorate can be shut out of the process of selecting delegates?

______________

It's a political party, they can do whatever they want, it has nothing to do with our form of government.

It's sort of like saying how the NRA chooses their President violates the Constitution.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 11:16 AM (BILR8)

190
I was embarrassed yesterday when it was revealed that I was the number two poster. Now sven was number one and almost twice the number of comments I did so really I was number one and sven is in a category of his own.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 11:16 AM (iQIUe)

191 I know where the sniper should be hiding

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 04, 2016 11:16 AM (9xfh1)

192 11 I could film that.

....

So could I!
Posted by: Creepy Guy in the Mall

Heh...... pudknockers.

Posted by: Zombie Russ Meyer at April 04, 2016 11:16 AM (rbPBV)

193 6 When you stare into the abyss...

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 10:31 AM (NeFrd)

You often hear "My eyes are up here."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 11:17 AM (oKE6c)

194 I would have thought with all of the establishment candidates flaming out so badly this time around some of the conspiracy theories about the establishment controlling everything would have died off

I don't think "conspiracy theory" was that "the Establishment controlled everything."

First of all, it's kind of axiomatic that Party Leadership has a huge degree of power over the operations of the party. That's why the party has a leadership.

Second, the criticism of the Establishment wasn't that they "controlled everything," but that they disproportionately favored in the interests of wealthy donors over the interests of large numbers of middle and working class voters; which is demonstrably true when you analyze the actions of the congressional Republican majority.

So, can we put that Straw man away now? Thank you.

Posted by: V the K at April 04, 2016 11:17 AM (O7MnT)

195 It's a losing strategy as it will be portrayed as "don't act Mexican, act white"

Exactly thus.

Posted by: V the K at April 04, 2016 11:18 AM (O7MnT)

196 Had a young lady approach us at King Soopers yesterday, award-winning beauties under a form-fitting tee shirt.

The tee shirt said in big letters,

"Stand Back,

gonna try some science!"

Posted by: the littl shyning man at April 04, 2016 11:18 AM (U6f54)

197 It's a losing strategy as it will be portrayed as "don't act Mexican, act white"

They're not supposed to become more like us; we're supposed to become more like them.

Posted by: V the K at April 04, 2016 11:18 AM (O7MnT)

198 The key to understanding FTWD is to realize that the characters are all special snowflakes.

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 11:19 AM (nbrY/)

199 >>> It's a political party, they can do whatever they want, it has nothing to do with our form of government.

===

Yes, they can... And more's the pity.

They can put up where the sun don't shine.

Posted by: franksalterego at April 04, 2016 11:19 AM (Cd+Fa)

200 I can still play my lute one handed...

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 04, 2016 11:20 AM (aQQbl)

201 >>So, can we put that Straw man away now? Thank you.

You first.

The only two viable candidates left standing are Trump and Cruz and neither one is remotely an establishment favorite.

And Ryan has been stating emphatically that under no circumstances will he be a candidate for President in 2016.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2016 11:20 AM (/tuJf)

202 I wandered lonely as a cloud
her picture tucked upon my doublet proud
when all at once I came upon
a host of golden daffodils
a poet could not be gay
in such jocund company
often when on my couch i lay
with internet her pic on display
Fwwwaaaahhhhh !!!!

Posted by: saf at April 04, 2016 11:20 AM (qKiBT)

203 82 All three are infested with head lice.

Posted by: eman at April 04, 2016 10:47 AM (MQEz6)

Everyone in the world was infested with head lice 350 years ago.

Running water is a wonderful thing.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present moment) at April 04, 2016 11:20 AM (u0lmX)

204 196 Posted by: the littl shyning man at April 04, 2016 11:18 AM (U6f54)

Hence Ace's "I Love Science, Sexually."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2016 11:20 AM (p4UlV)

205 Always check their teeth, gums, & hooves!
Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 11:07 AM (NsI03)

And tails.

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 11:21 AM (nbrY/)

206 Glen Beck was just chastising Sarah Palin on his radio show. Said that she wasn't a good mother or wife if she didn't support Cruz.

Will never listen to Glen Beck again. Program is much better when it is only Pat, Stu, and Jeffy.

Posted by: outrage at April 04, 2016 11:21 AM (HSAmh)

207 Ace of Spades HQ. Come for the Trump wars, stay for the Sadomasochism.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

---

but you repeat yourself

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 04, 2016 11:21 AM (R8ea6)

208 Beck is cuckoo

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 11:22 AM (nbrY/)

209 Serious question prompted by the sidebar: what could Ryan say that would assure you he's not seeking the nom? "I gladly die for the emperor" is not acceptable.

Posted by: pep at April 04, 2016 11:22 AM (3e8zv)

210 Wasn't there a SNL skit where the women had evolved with their eyes on their breasts?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, bringing classy to AoSHQ at April 04, 2016 11:22 AM (9mTYi)

211 Now imagine what those ta tas would look like if they had Wonderbras 350 years ago. She would have been able to carry a dinner plate without using her hands.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present moment) at April 04, 2016 11:23 AM (u0lmX)

212 Everyone in the world was infested with head lice 350 years ago.

Running water is a wonderful thing.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present moment) at April 04, 2016 11:20 AM (u0lmX)

Kinda like Berkeley now.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 11:23 AM (oKE6c)

213 Serious question prompted by the sidebar: what could
Ryan say that would assure you he's not seeking the nom? "I gladly die
for the emperor" is not acceptable.
Posted by: pep at April 04, 2016 11:22 AM (3e8zv)

Not a thing, the guy is Joe Isuzu in my book.

Posted by: IP at April 04, 2016 11:23 AM (aQQbl)

214 Nice cleavage, but it would be truly wonderful if it was a cup size larger and thus the somewhat low ball offer

Posted by: ed gibbon at April 04, 2016 11:24 AM (vRNwc)

215 183 This may be preaching to the choir, but why isn't assimilation and integration more a topic of the political discourse, rather than the bipolar argument about deportation?

Posted by: Guy Fawkes

It's a losing strategy as it will be portrayed as "don't act Mexican, act white"

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 11:14 AM (BILR

Because assimilation and integration will be portrayed as "destroying Mexican culture," and/or "making Mexican culture subservient to that of the white patriarchy." That's why.

The Commies never sleep, and are intellectually dishonest.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 11:25 AM (oKE6c)

216 I like Glenn Beck and give him a little more leeway than most, but his whole Trunp is Hitler so if you support Trump you are like the Nazis schtick is over the top and unlistenable.

Yeah, we get it. You don't like Trump.

He's Hitler? Beck has been highlighting Comedy Central and Kos and crap like that to bolster his position.

Posted by: blaster at April 04, 2016 11:25 AM (sKoAw)

217 Y-not just linked a column by Kurt Schlichter in the sidebar. If you go to the column, you will notice he accuses Corey Lewindowski of "battering" a reporter.

I'm not a big Trump fan, but is it really necessary to blatantly lie about what happened?

Do you really want to be a part of that?

Posted by: Dogstar at April 04, 2016 11:26 AM (NpNHd)

218 Serious question prompted by the sidebar: what could Ryan say that would assure you he's not seeking the nom? "I gladly die for the emperor" is not acceptable.
Posted by: pep
________________

I don't like Paul Ryan, almost exclusively because of his stance on immigration, but if he really wanted to run for President, he would have this time around and would have easily been a top contender simply because he was the VP nominee last time around.

I don't think he's purposely trying to manipulate the system in order to be the nominee.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 11:26 AM (BILR8)

219 OMG.. can we just talk about what a mind fuck The Walking Dead pulled on it's fans last night??? So royally pissed off.

Posted by: jewells45 at April 04, 2016 11:27 AM (l/N7H)

220 I shall rename this painting again:

"Huddled Masses, Yearning to Breathe Free"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 11:27 AM (NeFrd)

221 206 Glen Beck was just chastising Sarah Palin on his radio show. Said that she wasn't a good mother or wife if she didn't support Cruz.

Will never listen to Glen Beck again. Program is much better when it is only Pat, Stu, and Jeffy.
Posted by: outrage at April 04, 2016 11:21 AM (HSAmh)

----------------

I quit listening to Beck after the Bundy ranch incident. That's when he really started going off the rails. I think he inherited his mom's mental illness.

Posted by: Soona at April 04, 2016 11:27 AM (Fmupd)

222 First they came for the fappers, and I did nothing.

For I am not ... wait ...

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 04, 2016 11:27 AM (VdICR)

223 211 Now imagine what those ta tas would look like if they had Wonderbras 350 years ago. She would have been able to carry a dinner plate without using her hands.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present moment) at April 04, 2016 11:23 AM (u0lmX)

They had stays which had a similar effect.

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 11:28 AM (nbrY/)

224 >>The key to understanding FTWD is to realize that the characters are all special snowflakes.

Ugh, just the sight of the druggie son - so much fail! He's a menace to his family because he will do anything to get a fix. Not the guy you want on your team in the zombie apocalypse.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 04, 2016 11:28 AM (NOIQH)

225 219 OMG.. can we just talk about what a mind fuck The Walking Dead pulled on it's fans last night??? So royally pissed off.
Posted by: jewells45 at April 04, 2016 11:27 AM (l/N7H)

I'm writing a post about the finale. Terrible ending choice.

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 11:29 AM (nbrY/)

226 219 OMG.. can we just talk about what a mind fuck The Walking Dead pulled on it's fans last night??? So royally pissed off.
Posted by: jewells45 at April 04, 2016 11:27 AM (l/N7H)

Me too. That was a total dick move.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2016 11:29 AM (0mRoj)

227 Posted by: jewells45 at April 04, 2016 11:27 AM (l/N7H)

Quit watching a couple years ago but this is not the first time I've heard it this morning.
Let me guess, Daryl was supposed to die and nothing happened.

Posted by: IP at April 04, 2016 11:29 AM (aQQbl)

228 Looks like she's got a slightly smaller than large size right hand. Not as yuuuge as mine, but sort of bigly.

Posted by: D. Trump at April 04, 2016 11:29 AM (H9MG5)

229 Kinda like Berkeley now.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 11:23 AM (oKE6c)

I remember one of Tom Wolfe's essays about mentioned that the doctors in Berkeley who worked at free clinics there in the 1960's started seeing patients with diseases (some sexually transmitted) that hadn't been seen in the Western World for a few centuries. They reappeared in the hippie communes because the hippies were no cleaner than medieval peasants.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present moment) at April 04, 2016 11:29 AM (u0lmX)

230 The GOPers are definitely preparing for a Ryan candidacy.

http://tinyurl.com/jrro2ga

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 11:31 AM (Nwg0u)

231 You want Cruz.
You hate Trump.
You'll get Romney as nominee
And you'll get Hillary or Biden as President

It was Barzini all along. And he still can't win Ohio

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 04, 2016 11:31 AM (OGehX)

232 I recall Paul Ryan was very reluctant to be the Speaker. Forced the conservative GOPe senators to agree to certain terms or he wouldn't consider it, including a demand for weekends off.

Unless he was just being super-sneaky about really wanting to do it, I would think he also really wouldn't want to be POTUS. He does not want to deal with contentious political factions on his side, so why would he want to become target #1 to both the entire Left (including MSM, academia, etc.) as well as every true-blue Trump and Cruz supporter?

Maybe I just don't read people very well...

Posted by: Lizzy at April 04, 2016 11:32 AM (NOIQH)

233 Running water is a wonderful thing.
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Not always.

Posted by: Flint, MI (D) at April 04, 2016 11:32 AM (9mTYi)

234
Eeny.
Meeny.
Miney.
Mo...re months of waiting.

Posted by: Negan at April 04, 2016 11:33 AM (H9MG5)

235 I see some sort of Cruz/Kasich or Cruz/Rubio ticket being formed on the 2nd ballot.

I'm almost getting the sense Trump is having buyers' remorse.

If he's the nominee, is he really prepared to write his campaign a $500 million check? He keeps promising to self fund, and that's the minimum it will take to compete with Hillary.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 11:33 AM (BILR8)

236 Perhaps he is just negotiating the price for the lute.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 04, 2016 11:33 AM (Qvgg/)

237 Running water is a wonderful thing.

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Not always.

Posted by: Flint, MI (D) at April 04, 2016 11:32 AM (9mTYi)

You're telling me?

Posted by: Khalid Shiek Mohammed at April 04, 2016 11:34 AM (aQQbl)

238 #breasteseses

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 11:34 AM (0LHZx)

239 >>...in the 1960's started seeing patients with diseases (some sexually
transmitted) that hadn't been seen in the Western World for a few
centuries.

Anti-vaccine parents + open borders = perfect storm of diseases that have been suppressed for decades.

Think I saw that in the UK they're having breakouts of scarlet fever.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 04, 2016 11:34 AM (NOIQH)

240 >>Serious question prompted by the sidebar: what could
Ryan say that would assure you he's not seeking the nom? "I gladly die
for the emperor" is not acceptable.
Posted by: pep

"Gotta go now" as he stepped off the side of the observation deck of the Empire State Building.

Posted by: Aviator at April 04, 2016 11:34 AM (c7vUv)

241 They reappeared in the hippie communes because the hippies were no cleaner than medieval peasants.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present moment) at April 04, 2016 11:29 AM (u0lmX)

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Medieval peasants werent stupid. The docs at the time were. Saw a documentary on medieval farming. They had their dairy maids that would make cheese and butter. They showed how they cleaned everything. The churns were cleaned out with boiling water and scrubbed ith salt after and before every use.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 11:34 AM (iQIUe)

242 Just wait until the plague comes back.

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 11:34 AM (nbrY/)

243
Do you really want to be a part of that?

Posted by: Dogstar at April 04, 2016 11:26 AM (NpNHd)
__________________________________

I had no choice....

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 04, 2016 11:34 AM (HSmrB)

244 And Ryan has been stating emphatically that under no circumstances will he be a candidate for President in 2016.
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C'mon. Ryan imperiously demanded that conditions be met before he would, ever so reluctantly, accept the mantle of Speaker of the House. A position that puts him third in line to the presidency.

Yeah, I'm sure if the assembled GOPe bootlickers, Gucci-shod money-grubbers, and office-seeking rabble plead on bended knee that Paulie accept their petition that he be the GOPe nominee, who would blame him for putting aside his prior protestations and then assent to their request?

Posted by: mrp at April 04, 2016 11:35 AM (JBggj)

245 Glen Beck was just chastising Sarah Palin on his radio show. Said that she wasn't a good mother or wife if she didn't support Cruz.

-
TDS is an ugly, ugly thing.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 11:36 AM (Nwg0u)

246 If he's the nominee, is he really prepared to write his campaign a $500 million check? He keeps promising to self fund, and that's the minimum it will take to compete with Hillary.

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That's where the deal making comes in. He'll find investors.

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 11:36 AM (nbrY/)

247 Do any of these refugees get health checks before being allowed entry into countries? Are any quarantined?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 11:36 AM (iQIUe)

248 Investors = Special Interests?

Posted by: IP at April 04, 2016 11:37 AM (aQQbl)

249 >>>217 Y-not just linked a column by Kurt Schlichter in the sidebar. If you go to the column, you will notice he accuses Corey Lewindowski of "battering" a reporter.

I'm not a big Trump fan, but is it really necessary to blatantly lie about what happened?

Do you really want to be a part of that?

======

The conservative movement is being slaughtered by conservatives for someone they think is a conservative, who's nothing more than another political snake.

When the disaffected vote with their feet, Hillary's in the White House, and Liberal Democrats will control the House and the Senate.

And, we'll ALL know who to point the finger at.

Yeh,

I'm pissed.

Posted by: franksalterego at April 04, 2016 11:37 AM (Cd+Fa)

250 FWIW, I don't believe Paul Ryan wants the nomination, nor do I think he is scheming to get it.

If I had to guess, I would guess the party leadership is scheming to put together a Rubio-Kasich ticket. History suggests that in the case of a disputed convention, the person who gets the nod is the 3rd or 4th place primary finisher.

Posted by: V the K at April 04, 2016 11:37 AM (O7MnT)

251 Serious question prompted by the sidebar: what could Ryan say that would assure you he's not seeking the nom? "I gladly die for the emperor" is not acceptable.

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alahu akbar?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 04, 2016 11:37 AM (R8ea6)

252 Oh, and which fucking genius thought it was a good idea to have the GOP convention in Cleveland?

Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at April 04, 2016 11:37 AM (v9gSJ)

253 >>>Don't forget the psych evaluation and criminal background check.<<<

Back in those days, if you woke up in the morning with your junk still attached, she was a keeper.

Posted by: Fritz at April 04, 2016 11:38 AM (UzPAd)

254 245 Glen Beck was just chastising Sarah Palin on his radio show. Said that she wasn't a good mother or wife if she didn't support Cruz.

I personally think palin has worn out Her welcome but Beck is pretty wacko.....

Posted by: donna at April 04, 2016 11:38 AM (O2RFr)

255 Unless he was just being super-sneaky about really wanting to do it, I
would think he also really wouldn't want to be POTUS. He does not want
to deal with contentious political factions on his side, so why would he
want to become target #1 to both the entire Left (including MSM,
academia, etc.) as well as every true-blue Trump and Cruz supporter?

Except he's already dealing with them. I do think he ultimately dreams of the WH, and he's being very canny in playing the Cincinattus role. That doesn't mean he's actively lying now, though. My money is still on Cruz as the eventual nom if Trump falls short of 1237, which I think he'll do.

Posted by: pep at April 04, 2016 11:38 AM (3e8zv)

256 230 The GOPers are definitely preparing for a Ryan candidacy.

http://tinyurl.com/jrro2ga
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 11:31 AM (Nwg0u)

_______

Awesome idea. Because a losing VP candidate who runs for president is very successful. See Presidents Bob Dole and Walter Mondale as exhibits A and B.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 11:39 AM (0LHZx)

257 Do any of these refugees get health checks before being allowed entry into countries?
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Well, that's why it is important that, first thing, we get them enrolled in Medicaid!

Posted by: Obama at April 04, 2016 11:39 AM (9mTYi)

258 Story about a terrifying young woman in college who, at age 22 so violated the space and fears of her fellow committee members, she was almost forcibly removed from a meeting.

Her horrific crime?

Raising her hand.

http://tinyurl.com/zcj4yy6

The committee rules literally say you cannot even use hand gestures to express disagreement.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 11:39 AM (39g3+)

259 The bubonic plague has been around for decades in the US. That's why when you go to national parks they have signs that say dont feed squirrels, chipmonks, etc. They have fleas that carry bubonic plague.

Can you imagine living in a time when 1/ to 1/3 of the people died? Then there was the sweating sickness with similar high rate of death.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 11:39 AM (iQIUe)

260 >>OMG.. can we just talk about what a mind fuck The Walking Dead pulled on it's fans last night??? So royally pissed off.

Yeah, that was a jerk move.

On the Talking Dead the creator and director were claiming they were in line w/other cliffhangers on tv, but please. They've been teasing "someone fans love is going to DIE!!!!" all season long. There was even the fake Glenn death to psych out people who know his fate in the graphic novels.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 04, 2016 11:39 AM (NOIQH)

261 My guess is that he'll get a bunch of GOP defectors AND possibly a bunch of industrialists. People who would do better under a nation-state.
He'll never be able to get the globalist wall streeters that thrive in the no-borders status quo.

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 11:39 AM (nbrY/)

262 225 219 OMG.. can we just talk about what a mind fuck The Walking Dead pulled on it's fans last night??? So royally pissed off.

--

now how did the saviors know where/when to be waiting for them? How did they know that they HAD to get to hilltop?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 04, 2016 11:40 AM (R8ea6)

263 @215

The leftist/Marxist supplanted cultural assimilation with multiculturalism.

Balkanization helps the left as their ideology is predicated on racial, ethnic, socio-economic and cultural tensions giving rise to the need for trasnfortion and change to create more "socially just" society.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 04, 2016 11:40 AM (+oBbu)

264 Ugh, just the sight of the druggie son - so much fail! He's a menace to his family because he will do anything to get a fix. Not the guy you want on your team in the zombie apocalypse.

Meh. You always need bait. "Son, run across that road and check that house for meth!"

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 11:40 AM (NsI03)

265 What I never understand is when they say historical figures died from tb. How come their entire household was not infected, too?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 11:40 AM (iQIUe)

266 I'm not a big Trump fan, but is it really necessary to blatantly lie about what happened?

It's really hard to be in the middle on Trump. I think the reasonable ground is, "Trump's dude pushed her aside. Both sides blew it out of proportion. Trump should have apologized and given her a one-on-one interview to make up for it."

But No... you can't be in the middle. If you're not in camp, "TRUMP BEATS A WOMANSES AND THEN LIED ABOUT BECAUSE HE'S HITLER!" you have to be in camp "THAT BITCH LIED AND EVERYBODY WHO BELIEVES HER IS AN EXTABLISHMUNT STOOGE!"

Insanity abounds.

Posted by: V the K at April 04, 2016 11:41 AM (O7MnT)

267 254 245 Glen Beck was just chastising Sarah Palin on his radio show. Said that she wasn't a good mother or wife if she didn't support Cruz.

I personally think palin has worn out Her welcome but Beck is pretty wacko.....
Posted by: donna at April 04, 2016 11:38 AM (O2RFr)

______

Didn't he also say any Christian that votes for Trump isn't a real Christian or something? Oh and PS: buy gold!!!!

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 11:41 AM (0LHZx)

268 Oh, and which fucking genius thought it was a good idea to have the GOP convention in Cleveland?
Posted by: joncelli
------------------

You have to wonder if these guys could possibly be as insulated from reality as they seem to be.

The D.C. bubble must be completely opaque.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 04, 2016 11:41 AM (9mTYi)

269 Great art! Wonderful painting. Inspirational.

Posted by: MTF at April 04, 2016 11:42 AM (/m8T6)

270 She has, what I like to call, a nice rack.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 04, 2016 11:42 AM (U+nHb)

271 Can you imagine living in a time when 1/ to 1/3 of the people died?

Imagine it? Sometimes when I look at the news, I long for it.

Posted by: V the K at April 04, 2016 11:42 AM (O7MnT)

272 258 Story about a terrifying young woman in college who, at age 22 so violated the space and fears of her fellow committee members, she was almost forcibly removed from a meeting.

Her horrific crime?

Raising her hand.

http://tinyurl.com/zcj4yy6

The committee rules literally say you cannot even use hand gestures to express disagreement.

Downtwinkles!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 11:42 AM (NsI03)

273 Matchmaker, matchmaker, make me a match
Find me a fiiiiind
Catch me a holy shit look at that cleavage. Word.

*pays matchmaker*

Thanks!

*hurriedly leaves*

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 11:43 AM (xuouz)

274 Do any of these refugees get health checks before being allowed entry into countries? Are any quarantined?

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i got a check for $450. gonna buy me some obamacare and whiskey

Posted by: Pedro at April 04, 2016 11:43 AM (R8ea6)

275 >>What I never understand is when they say historical figures died from tb. How come their entire household was not infected, too?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!

Not as contagious as you might think. Also can be infected, but not have an active case.

Posted by: Aviator at April 04, 2016 11:43 AM (c7vUv)

276 On the Talking Dead the creator and director were claiming they were in line w/other cliffhangers on tv, but please. They've been teasing "someone fans love is going to DIE!!!!" all season long. There was even the fake Glenn death to psych out people who know his fate in the graphic novels.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 04, 2016 11:39 AM (NOIQH)

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If inline with other cliffhangers, than maybe they shd do something different? People are sick of it. And TWD has had too many cliffhangers.

I'm also sick of them making no progress. And I dont mean just a safe place to bake cookies. I want to see clever fortifications and ways of dealing with hordes.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 11:43 AM (iQIUe)

277 >>The committee rules literally say you cannot even use hand gestures to express disagreement.

In this gal's case, someone was saying she had not responded to them (maybe a letter?) and she was raising her hand so that she could say, yes, she had responded. She was attempting to set the record straight on something the speaker was saying about her. How aggressive!!!! /sarc

Instead they say you have to sit there and not react in any physical way - no nodding, hand gestures, nothing. How did they get to that place? That is insane.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 04, 2016 11:43 AM (NOIQH)

278 She has, what I like to call, a nice rack.

I don't know, they look pretty droopy for someone that Young...

Posted by: donna at April 04, 2016 11:43 AM (O2RFr)

279 The D.C. bubble must be completely opaque.

Ten feet thick and made of pure neutronium... the most dense material in the universe found only in the heart of neutron stars and surrounding the Capital Beltway.

Posted by: V the K at April 04, 2016 11:43 AM (O7MnT)

280 I remember one of Tom Wolfe's essays about
mentioned that the doctors in Berkeley who worked at free clinics there
in the 1960's started seeing patients with diseases (some sexually
transmitted) that hadn't been seen in the Western World for a few
centuries. They reappeared in the hippie communes because the hippies
were no cleaner than medieval peasants.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present moment) at April 04, 2016 11:29 AM (u0lmX)

A friend of mine in grad school, deciding to go instead to med school, volunteered at the Berkeley Free Clinic, and told stories of having to glove up and such and paw between rings of matted hair, while the critters who'd set up housekeeping therein scampered for cover. They'd hose the clown down, clean him up, and four months later, see him again. "Rinse. Lather. Repeat" took on a new, very literal, significance.
A second friend did the same thing, but volunteered weekends at SF General, and used to regale us with stories of the hardware they'd extracted from fags' butts that weekend. But you know, it's just another lifestyle, equally valid and healthy as any other. Sure.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 11:44 AM (oKE6c)

281 You have to wonder if these guys could possibly be as insulated from reality as they seem to be.

Right. And if they'd had it in some nicer venue, you'd be complaining that they're out of touch with the common man.

Me, I wouldn't want to go to Cleveland, but I think that's the point. Showing solidarity with the common, everyday working man seems like a good idea. There are plenty of those in Cleveland.

Posted by: pep at April 04, 2016 11:44 AM (3e8zv)

282 275 >>What I never understand is when they say historical figures died from tb. How come their entire household was not infected, too?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!

Not as contagious as you might think. Also can be infected, but not have an active case.
Posted by: Aviator at April 04, 2016 11:43 AM (c7vUv)

Don't you have to cough directly on someone to transmit TB?

Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at April 04, 2016 11:44 AM (v9gSJ)

283 265 What I never understand is when they say historical figures died from tb. How come their entire household was not infected, too?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 11:40 AM (iQIUe)

Often the entire family was infected, but the disease is dormant unless the person's immune system gets low. This is true even today in 3rd world countries.
Which is why sometimes rest, fresh air, and good nutrition did work as "cures".

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 11:45 AM (nbrY/)

284 Instead they say you have to sit there and not react in any physical way
- no nodding, hand gestures, nothing. How did they get to that place?
That is insane.
=========

The most important rule is: Don't be the first person to stop clapping!

Posted by: mrp at April 04, 2016 11:45 AM (JBggj)

285 The committee rules literally say you cannot even use hand gestures to express disagreement.

Downtwinkles!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 11:42 AM (NsI03)
How about finger gestures?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 11:45 AM (oKE6c)

286 269 Great art! Wonderful painting. Inspirational.
Posted by: MTF at April 04, 2016 11:42 AM (/m8T6)

Yuuuge. Classy. Really terrific.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2016 11:45 AM (0mRoj)

287 Right. And if they'd had it in some nicer venue, you'd be complaining that they're out of touch with the common man.

Yeah, I'm fine with the location, just not the participants. One does wonder if such an event really has to take place anywhere these days, though. What are they doing there - officially, at least - that they can't do online? Its an excuse for a huge debauched party.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 11:46 AM (39g3+)

288 It's really hard to be in the middle on Trump.
Posted by: V the K

It reminds me a lot of Sarah Palin. The more people criticize, the more her supporters would turn up the rhetoric.

I started out a fan and then found I couldn't make excuses for her any longer, at the same time, completely conceding the liberal MSM was unfair and wanted to destroy her.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 11:46 AM (BILR8)

289 217 Y-not just linked a column by Kurt Schlichter in the sidebar. If you go to the column, you will notice he accuses Corey Lewindowski of "battering" a reporter.

I'm not a big Trump fan, but is it really necessary to blatantly lie about what happened?

Do you really want to be a part of that?
Posted by: Dogstar at April 04, 2016 11:26 AM (NpNHd)

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I gave up on Schlichter when he sent out hundreds of tweets calling anyone who opposed Goproud setting up a booth at cpac a bigot.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 11:46 AM (iQIUe)

290 I don't like Paul Ryan, almost exclusively because of his stance on immigration, but if he really wanted to run for President, he would have this time around and would have easily been a top contender simply because he was the VP nominee last time around.

I don't think he's purposely trying to manipulate the system in order to be the nominee.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 11:26 AM (BILR

Its more personal for me. He engineered and passed a reduction in Veterans Retirement benefits as the ONLY thing he could find to cut in the entire US Budget.

He got caught, and it was rescinded.... BUT...

The new Military retirement he passed is both somehow GOOD for Veterans, and also SAVES the Feds a couple Billion a year.... now... how is giving LESS to retired Veterans, a GOOD thing?

Note, Congresses VERY liberal retirement system remains fully funded.

Posted by: Don Quixote, picking up his lance at April 04, 2016 11:47 AM (qf6WZ)

291 281 You have to wonder if these guys could possibly be as insulated from reality as they seem to be.

Right. And if they'd had it in some nicer venue, you'd be complaining that they're out of touch with the common man.

Me, I wouldn't want to go to Cleveland, but I think that's the point. Showing solidarity with the common, everyday working man seems like a good idea. There are plenty of those in Cleveland.

Posted by: pep at April 04, 2016 11:44 AM (3e8zv)

Want to express solidarity with the working man? Have the convention in Pittsburgh, which is not a shithole like Cleveland, which was the point of my criticism.

Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at April 04, 2016 11:47 AM (v9gSJ)

292 My guess is that he'll get a bunch of GOP defectors AND possibly a bunch of industrialists. People who would do better under a nation-state.
He'll never be able to get the globalist wall streeters that thrive in the no-borders status quo.
Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 11:39 AM (nbrY/)

If he's gonna keep his head above water he has to make a deal with the establishment (and that means the globalist wall-streeters) before the convention.

He won't shut up about what a great deal-maker he is. So we'll see if he's really all talk, based on 1) whether he can make a deal and 2) of what that deal consists. He has 105 days.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 11:47 AM (xuouz)

293 A friend of mine in grad school, deciding to go instead to med school, volunteered at the Berkeley Free Clinic, and told stories of having to glove up and such and paw between rings of matted hair, while the critters who'd set up housekeeping therein scampered for cover.

Shave half, light other side on fire with lighter fluid. When they run out, stab them with an ice pick!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 11:48 AM (NsI03)

294 Paul Ryan is a weasel that relies on his dimples and charm.

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 11:48 AM (nbrY/)

295 The most important rule is: Don't be the first person to stop clapping!

I didn't get a harrumph from that guy...

Posted by: Governor LePetomaine at April 04, 2016 11:48 AM (39g3+)

296 >>Do any of these refugees get health checks before being allowed entry into countries? Are any quarantined?

They are not turning away immigrants with diseases like AIDS as they used to do, pre-Obama.

IIRC, the unaccompanied minors are somewhat quarantined in that they are places in a staging area (like the ones set up on military bases) before DHS sends them of to the city of their choice. Back when this first started (i.e. when the media still reported on it), a whistle-blower doctor from one of these places said that the infected kids were not adequately separated, and in addition to that, the poor hygiene by a lot of them (think: never used indoor plumbing before) was causing infections to spread easily.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 04, 2016 11:48 AM (NOIQH)

297 Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 11:44 AM (oKE6c)

I knew an ER doc who once removed a 2L soda bottle out of some dude's ass.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2016 11:48 AM (0mRoj)

298 Reading the Chicago Tribune, headline: lets make Chicago a "no kill" city...they I realized they were talking about animals in shelters. Here I thought maybe they were going to post "no killing zone" signs, oh well.

Posted by: Colin at April 04, 2016 11:49 AM (6IZ5e)

299 Interesting stats for Cleavland

demographics:
Black - 53pct
White - 37pct
Hispanic - 9pct

Mayor: Democrat
City Council: 17 members, 16 Democrats and 1 Green Party.

Seems like the optimal place to hold the GOP convention.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 04, 2016 11:49 AM (+oBbu)

300 I started out a fan and then found I couldn't make excuses for [Palin] any longer, at the same time, completely conceding the liberal MSM was unfair and wanted to destroy her.
Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 11:46 AM (BILR

The center cannot hold.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 11:49 AM (xuouz)

301 Instead they say you have to sit there and not react in any physical way - no nodding, hand gestures, nothing. How did they get to that place? That is insane.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 04, 2016 11:43 AM (NOIQH)

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Stalinesque.

Posted by: Soona at April 04, 2016 11:49 AM (Fmupd)

302 >>Don't you have to cough directly on someone to transmit TB?
Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious!

Not exactly. It is transmitted by droplet nuclei that can remain suspended in the air for a couple of hours after a cough, sneeze etc.

Posted by: Aviator at April 04, 2016 11:49 AM (c7vUv)

303 He'll never be able to get the globalist wall streeters that thrive in the no-borders status quo.

Sure he can. They know he doesn't mean a word he's saying about immigration.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 11:49 AM (39g3+)

304 Seems like the optimal place to hold the GOP convention.

Who's the rocket Scientist who choose this?

Posted by: donna at April 04, 2016 11:50 AM (O2RFr)

305 The conservative movement is being slaughtered by conservatives for someone they think is a conservative, who's nothing more than another political snake.

When the disaffected vote with their feet, Hillary's in the White House, and Liberal Democrats will control the House and the Senate.

And, we'll ALL know who to point the finger at.

Yeh,

I'm pissed.Posted by: franksalterego at April 04, 2016 11:37 AM (Cd+Fa)Yes, of course. It's all the fault of the flag-humping, sister-fingering, racist Trumpkins. A GOP establishment that's spent more energy in the last six months fighting Trump than it's ever been able to do in eight years against a Marxist, dog-eating crackhead has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2016 11:50 AM (X6fMO)

306
I still cant believe they havent solved the murders of the entire family that was beaten and stabbed in Chicago. 6 people including 2 kids.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 11:51 AM (iQIUe)

307 Seriously, if we were the Alexandrites driving all over hostile Saviour/walker filled territory, our Winnebago would have armor plate, cannons, flame thrower, a trebuchet, a cool black paint job with a red stripe down the side...

Posted by: The A-Team at April 04, 2016 11:51 AM (H9MG5)

308 I still cant believe they havent solved the murders
of the entire family that was beaten and stabbed in Chicago. 6 people
including 2 kids.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 11:51 AM (iQIUe)

I lived there, and nothing surprises me in Cook County anymore. Nothing.

Posted by: IP at April 04, 2016 11:52 AM (aQQbl)

309 Rick Grimes is just not that good of leader, imo.

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 11:52 AM (nbrY/)

310 Sure he can. They know he doesn't mean a word he's saying about immigration.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 11:49 AM (39g3+)

How can you delude yourself on this. This is what his base wants from him, and you can tell yourself that his supporters will make any excuse, but he loses his unique political brand if he goes back on this.

Say whatever you want about visas, that's an entirely separate issue from wall/immigration law enforcement/end benefits eligibility. He has NOT changed on this since he announced last July.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 11:53 AM (xuouz)

311 Its more personal for me. He engineered and passed a reduction in Veterans Retirement benefits as the ONLY thing he could find to cut in the entire US Budget.

He got caught, and it was rescinded.... BUT...

The new Military retirement he passed is both somehow GOOD for Veterans, and also SAVES the Feds a couple Billion a year.... now... how is giving LESS to retired Veterans, a GOOD thing?

Note, Congresses VERY liberal retirement system remains fully funded.
Posted by: Don Quixote,

I agree, what I loathe about Paul Ryan is that he seems to go after the benefits you can make the case people deserve the most and shouldn't be at the top of the list for things to cut.

The other example is when he wanted to basically reform MediCare. Can we at least strip away the ObamaPhones before we talk about MediCare for seniors?

I think Ryan views too much of this through an Excel spreadsheet.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 11:53 AM (BILR8)

312 The early part of this thread - randy remarks with an occasional blurp of politics spilling over from last thread.

The latter part of this thread - politics pr0n with an occasional bleat of remarks upon the art's assets.

This says something about something, I'm sure.

‽

I think there's a lot to be said about matchmaking. Most folks left to their own judgment don't seem to do very well.

Posted by: mindful webworker - art schmarty at April 04, 2016 11:53 AM (I9SqL)

313 GOK cool link in your nic. I love Calvin & Hobbes

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 11:54 AM (nbrY/)

314 Buzzsaw.. that's a great question. There's a mole in Rick's group. The young girl? (can't remember her name)

Posted by: jewells45 at April 04, 2016 11:54 AM (l/N7H)

315 "Well, you know Trump doesn't really mean any of this. But these politicians! These people you can believe when they tell you they're really serious about something. We can trust them.

But Trump? My goodness, look at his hair! Not trustworthy. Totally unpresidential.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 11:54 AM (xuouz)

316 314 Buzzsaw.. that's a great question. There's a mole in Rick's group. The young girl? (can't remember her name)
Posted by: jewells45 at April 04, 2016 11:54 AM (l/N7H)

Enid. I hate her.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2016 11:55 AM (0mRoj)

317 For your culinary edification and possible incineration, Burger King has the Angry Whopper. This concoction has hot sauce baked into the bun along with other undisclosed alterations.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 04, 2016 11:55 AM (kBuGL)

318 314 Buzzsaw.. that's a great question. There's a mole in Rick's group. The young girl? (can't remember her name)
Posted by: jewells45 at April 04, 2016 11:54 AM (l/N7H)

Enid. Poor Enid, 7 months locked in a closet.

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 11:55 AM (nbrY/)

319 ... oh and a cow catcher on the front for plowing through zombie herds... maybe some chainsaws mounted down the sides for lopping off heads...

Posted by: The A-Team at April 04, 2016 11:55 AM (H9MG5)

320 OT by now but I just got here. Painting made wonder, what did they call motor boating back in the day?

Posted by: tbodie at April 04, 2016 11:56 AM (na0uG)

321 I still cant believe they havent solved the murders
of the entire family that was beaten and stabbed in Chicago. 6 people
including 2 kids.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 11:51 AM (iQIUe)
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Yeah,, it's hard to solve that kinda' thing when it happens at a Trump rally.... Trust me, I know...

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 04, 2016 11:56 AM (HSmrB)

322 The early part of this thread - randy remarks with an occasional blurp of politics spilling over from last thread.

The latter part of this thread - politics pr0n with an occasional bleat of remarks upon the art's assets.

This says something about something, I'm sure.

We wore her ass out.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 11:56 AM (NsI03)

323
I still cant believe they havent solved the murders
of the entire family that was beaten and stabbed in Chicago. 6 people
including 2 kids.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 11:51 AM (iQIUe)

I have no doubt that a check cut to Rahm Emanuel's reelection fund or one to the police benevolent association would jump-start the investigation post haste.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2016 11:57 AM (X6fMO)

324 Matchmaker, bring us another, for the Horde hungers still!

Posted by: IP at April 04, 2016 11:57 AM (aQQbl)

325 Well, you know Trump doesn't really mean any of this. But these politicians! These people you can believe when they tell you they're really serious about something. We can trust them.

Meh, people act like Trump isn't a politician. He wasn't one but he is now. You can't trust any f them.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 11:57 AM (39g3+)

326 votermom that specific panel has been on my mind a lot recently.

Also this one:
bit.ly/1SMiiQ2

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 11:57 AM (xuouz)

327 I still cant believe they havent solved the murders
of the entire family that was beaten and stabbed in Chicago. 6 people
including 2 kids.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 11:51 AM (iQIUe)
I assume that this was in the ghetto, in which case it was the Dude brothers: Some Dude, That Dude, Some Other Dude.See "Things I learn from my patients" http://tinyurl.com/pe8k4nu for lots of great stories. It's where I learned about SOCMOB.

Especially relevant to Insomniac's comment:"I knew an ER doc who once removed a 2L soda bottle out of some dude's ass.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2016 11:48 AM (0mRoj)[/]

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 11:58 AM (oKE6c)

328 It's really hard to be in the middle on Trump. I think the reasonable ground is, "Trump's dude pushed her aside. Both sides blew it out of proportion. Trump should have apologized and given her a one-on-one interview to make up for it."

But No... you can't be in the middle. If you're not in camp, "TRUMP BEATS A WOMANSES AND THEN LIED ABOUT BECAUSE HE'S HITLER!" you have to be in camp "THAT BITCH LIED AND EVERYBODY WHO BELIEVES HER IS AN EXTABLISHMUNT STOOGE!"

Insanity abounds.

Posted by: V the K at April 04, 2016 11:41 AM (O7MnT)

Yup..... we are watching a historic use of power in real time... as the establishment fights for its power.

The Media liked Trump as long as they did not believe he really had a chance (huge ratings off of him).... now that he does and is calling OUT said Media, they are in the process of destroying him.

The Establishment Right ignored Trump when they thought he had no chance... now they are all in with both rhetoric and hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising, to destroy him.

The Left does not like Trump, because he does not bow to them...

The problem is that all three groups... Left, Establishment Right, and Media, are not LIKED or Trusted by a large portion of the electorate...

So when THEY call people names... Trumpkins... Trumptards... needless to say things get a bit heated....

Posted by: Don Quixote, picking up his lance at April 04, 2016 11:59 AM (qf6WZ)

329 305 >>>Yes, of course. It's all the fault of the flag-humping, sister-fingering, racist Trumpkins. A GOP establishment that's spent more energy in the last six months fighting Trump than it's ever been able to do in eight years against a Marxist, dog-eating crackhead has absolutely nothing to do with it.

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I forgot to mention... The snake has a Legal Certificate.

Posted by: franksalterego at April 04, 2016 11:59 AM (Cd+Fa)

330 ...ooh... maybe a giant flail like on those cool land mine clearing vehicles!...

Posted by: The A-Team at April 04, 2016 11:59 AM (H9MG5)

331 The Navy said it has seized a weapons shipment in the Arabian Sea from Iran likely heading to war-torn Yemen.

The Navy said in a statement Monday that the Cyclone-class patrol ship Sirocco on March 28 intercepted and seized the shipment of weapons hidden aboard a small dhow, a type of ship commonly used in the Persian Gulf and Indian Ocean.

The Navy said the shipment included 1,500 Kalashnikov assault rifles, 200 rocket-propelled grenade launchers and 21 .50-caliber machine guns. It said those aboard the dhow were released after sailors confiscated the arms.

Fredo's bestest friends...hey I got a great idea, let's give them nuclear weapons and 150 billion Dollars?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 04, 2016 11:59 AM (mw8Dm)

332 Where's Abe's rocket launcher?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 12:00 PM (iQIUe)

333 ...what I loathe about Paul Ryan...
April 04, 2016 11:53 AM (BILR

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In addition, he is a Contract on America, Ayn Rand-worshipping, libertariatard, movement conservative jerk wad.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 04, 2016 12:00 PM (NUqwG)

334 Meh, people act like Trump isn't a politician. He wasn't one but he is now. You can't trust any f them.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor

For some reason, Trump has gotten away with this idea that because he's never held elected office, he can't be a conman.

But he's certainly been a politician, Trump has run for President almost every election since the mid-90's. He's just been a lousy one until he started talking about a wall.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 12:00 PM (BILR8)

335 326 That's on point

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 12:00 PM (nbrY/)

336 Can we at least strip away the ObamaPhones before we
talk about MediCare for seniors?

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 11:53 AM (BILR
On the contrary, Obama is expanding the Obamapho' program to bring high-speed ~~porn~~ Internet access to the ghetto.

Just put it on our tab, Barry. Apparently some people are destined to work to support other people, other people are destined to sit around on their asses and be supported.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 12:01 PM (oKE6c)

337 Meh, people act like Trump isn't a politician. He wasn't one but he is now. You can't trust any of them.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 11:57 AM (39g3+)

That's exactly it. That's why he's tone deaf on style despite being in the ballpark on substance.

Trump is not a panacea. He's likely (I say likely goddamnit, I'm not promising you the moon) to do four things:
-Build a wall and end muslim immigration
-Maim the GOP
-Go over every goddamn line item on the federal budget, with no sacred cows
-Throw an absolute muckraking shitfit if establishment people fuck with him. Come on Panama Papers

This was so much more than I was willing to hope for this election.

Can he win the general?

He can if the #nevertrumpers roll their sleeves up and get politicking instead of keeping their dainty little feet hiked up off the floor and their noses at a 90 degree angle to the horizon.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 12:02 PM (xuouz)

338 Re: cow catcher.

Best attach a snow plow blade that angles to a point in the center. Unless you like to get stalled by the wall of zombies a straight blade might cause. A catcher made from say angle iron has its own drawback, quivering bits of zombies wedged in it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 04, 2016 12:02 PM (kBuGL)

339 Congress is investigating whether the Obama administration misled lawmakers last summer about the extent of concessions granted to Iran under the nuclear deal, as well as if administration officials have been quietly rewriting the deal's terms in the aftermath of the agreement, according to sources and a formal notice sent to the State Department.

The concerns come after statements from top officials last week suggesting that Iran is set to receive greater weapons and sanctions relief, moves that the administration had promised Congress would never take place as White House officials promoted the deal last summer.

Posted by: Obama For-ks America at April 04, 2016 12:02 PM (e8kgV)

340 Fredo's bestest friends...hey I got a great idea, let's give them nuclear weapons and 150 billion Dollars?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 04, 2016 11:59 AM (mw8Dm)

Yep. And here's what pisses me off still further: we borrowed the money we gave to those pricks. Let them borrow money in their own right.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 12:02 PM (oKE6c)

341

Iran warned the US on Monday that any attempt to encroach on the Islamic Republics ballistic missile program would constitute the crossing of a red line.

Bitch slapping Fredo

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 04, 2016 12:02 PM (mw8Dm)

342 This was so much more than I was willing to hope for this election.

Can he win the general?

No

Posted by: donna at April 04, 2016 12:03 PM (O2RFr)

343 I assume that this was in the ghetto, in which case it was the Dude brothers: Some Dude, That Dude, Some Other Dude.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 11:58 AM (oKE6c)
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No, this family was latino and the adults had jobs. A school mate of the boy said he appeared sad the day he died. Maybe there was some problem? Or, maybe it was nothing. Could be drug cartel? But from what I can tell, these people were normal.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 12:03 PM (iQIUe)

344 Best attach a snow plow blade that angles to a point in the center. Unless you like to get stalled by the wall of zombies a straight blade might cause. A catcher made from say angle iron has its own drawback, quivering bits of zombies wedged in it.

Road grader angle like a snow plow.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 12:03 PM (NsI03)

345 Nice tits

Posted by: TedCruz at April 04, 2016 12:03 PM (5kh8A)

346 Re TWD, last night sort of continuing the "jumped the shark" status on several fronts.

The group survives years of the apocalypse and naturally develops/follows common sense practices doing so. They then completely abandon such practices, when some new crisis is required to maintain tension.

Single vehicles venturing out into unknown/hostile territory. Right. What if a mechancial breakdown occurs (as actually has been shown in previous, early episodes?)

Individuals head out alone for stupid personal reasons, after years of showing discipline in protecting the group. Right.

And last night, it got really silly. The bad guy group apparently has helicopters, and spends vast resources playing a game with an unarmored unescorted RV they could easily have stopped/ambushed at any point. Really stupid.

I don't blame the writers for running into a wall as far as new material goes (the pre-quel can be/is much more interesting precisely because it depicts a more chaotic phase of the apocalypse), but the writing has generally been lazy and unimaginative for quite a while, as far as scenarios and plot-lines.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 04, 2016 12:03 PM (QDnY+)

347 Mother dick! I forgot to pack the RPG.

Posted by: Abraham Ford at April 04, 2016 12:04 PM (H9MG5)

348 I'm not a big Trump fan, but is it really necessary to blatantly lie about what happened?

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Apparently so given the only alternative is to tell the truth. I'm not a Trumpeter either but these Trump derangement tactics are not only disgusting, they're suicidal.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 12:04 PM (Nwg0u)

349 No, this family was latino and the adults had jobs. A
school mate of the boy said he appeared sad the day he died. Maybe
there was some problem? Or, maybe it was nothing. Could be drug cartel?
But from what I can tell, these people were normal.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 12:03 PM (iQIUe)

Then it IS a tragedy.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 12:05 PM (oKE6c)

350 A GOP establishment that's spent more energy in the last six months fighting Trump than it's ever been able to do in eight years against a Marxist, dog-eating crackhead has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2016 11:50 AM (X6fMO)

----

Yup. GOPe created the environment for somebody like Trump to come along.

This shit started with the Rovian policy of out liberalling the Dems and the Medicair drug benefit. Then came Bushes version of amenesty. Conservatives were like WTF.

Then.... when they had Onamacare bottled up in comittee... they let it out. Thank you Banger Sisters.

Then... they rolled over on "deemed to have passede". Nevermind the Constituion calls for a reconcillation between the houses.

But we gave them the house. Later we gave them the Senate too.

Then they rolled over on Fast & Furious.

They rolled over on the IRS. Some probably HELPED Lerner to target teaparty groups.

They rolled over on Benghazi.

They rolled over on the debt ceiling and omnibus packages. Sequestration!!! YOURE GUTTING THE FUCKING MILITARY BECAUSE OF THE DEAL YOU MADE WITH OBAMA. WHAT KINDA FUCKNUTS ARE RUNNING THAT SHOW?!?!?!

They did NOT get ERIC FUKCING CANTOR we'll throw you out on your ass memo. REALLY??? Not even navel gazing???

Nukes. NUKES TO FUCKING IRAN??? seriously??? Oh... and lets toss 5 billion in cash on top of that.

And last time I looked.... Hillarys gonna get away with her own personal, nonsecured server shennanigans.... and after LYING about it.

So in closing..... Yeah.... GOPe ...... Trump is YOUR baby. You've fucked up everything to this point now. All Trumo is promising to do.....is the job YOU were supposed to do.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 04, 2016 12:05 PM (8XRCm)

351 You first.

The only two viable candidates left standing are Trump and Cruz and neither one is remotely an establishment favorite.

And Ryan has been stating emphatically that under no circumstances will he be a candidate for President in 2016.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2016 11:20 AM (/tuJf)

Also, even if Paul Ryan were interested, no rules ever used by the Republican Party Convention would allow his nomination.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 04, 2016 12:05 PM (3JA/M)

352 On the contrary, Obama is expanding the Obamapho' program to bring high-speed porn Internet access to the ghetto.
Just put it on our tab, Barry. Apparently some people are destined to work to support other people, other people are destined to sit around on their asses and be supported.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 12:01 PM (oKE6c)

High speed internet is a human right.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 12:06 PM (xuouz)

353 Paul Ryan's word and $5 will get you a latte at Starbucks.

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 12:07 PM (nbrY/)

354 Can he win the general?

He can if the #nevertrumpers roll their sleeves up and get politicking instead of keeping their dainty little feet hiked up off the floor and their noses at a 90 degree angle to the horizon.
Posted by: Ghost of kari

______________

I really don't think the Editors at National Review are what would keep Trump out of the White House.

Trump's own mouth is what gets him in trouble, all his wounds are self-inflicted.

I do think the Donald Trump of 20-30 years ago could have won and won big. You look at interviews of him then and he's actually an intelligent and reasonable figure.

I honestly think he's had a stroke or has gone senile. It's like a completely different person.

My hope was he would change gears, but he just keeps up the same schtick. he won't even crack a book open, every answer is "better deals" which is code for "I don't know"

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 12:07 PM (BILR8)

355 This is the kind of rig you need to get through a crowd of hostiles

https://youtu.be/ZQ4sDY4xkW8

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 12:07 PM (39g3+)

356 Paul Ryan's word and $5 will get you a latte at Starbucks.
Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 12:07 PM (nbrY/)

Not a large Cappicinno

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 04, 2016 12:08 PM (mw8Dm)

357 Trump's own mouth is what gets him in trouble, all his wounds are self-inflicted.

Agreed. That and terrible advisers...

Posted by: donna at April 04, 2016 12:08 PM (O2RFr)

358 Deliverance is on TV and the squelling scene reminds me of this election....Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 04, 2016 12:09 PM (mw8Dm)

359 That gal in the picture has talent.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 04, 2016 12:09 PM (LA7Cm)

360 I'm not a Trumpeter either but these Trump derangement tactics are not only disgusting, they're suicidal.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 12:04 PM (Nwg0u)

Eh, it's best to just be forthright about our leanings at this point. I won't be complicit in making Trump out to be beyond the pale.

We're here and we're proud! haha

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 12:10 PM (xuouz)

361 The enemy of my enemies is my friend.

Four out of five remaining candidates works for the gov't.

Posted by: franksalterego at April 04, 2016 12:10 PM (Cd+Fa)

362 CrossThread theHat for sock:

The Future of Euthanasia: Harvesting Organs from Live Donors

Dutch and Belgian doctors are suggesting that perhaps the law regarding organ donors

I told you this would happen.

Posted by: Gil "The Arm" Hamilton at April 04, 2016 12:11 PM (DL2i+)

363 Pretty strange for news outlets to be shrieking "Conservatives lose voting rights case!" when it was the conservative Texas Legislature and the conservative Texas Governor who actually won the case.

The fact that the decision was unanimous shows how ridiculous the legal theory behind the challenge was.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2016 12:11 PM (/jecC)

364 The only two viable candidates left standing are Trump and Cruz and neither one is remotely an establishment favorite.

I doubt that Cruz is really a viable candidate, frankly, and for a simple reason: look where the Reds are directing their fire. They haven't bothered so much as to clear their throats regarding Cruz. That's got to tell you what THEY think of him as an adversary.

And I don't think it's anything to do with policies, either; it's electability. They didn't bother previously with Pat Buchanan, whose policies must be anathema to them, nor did they go after McCain, but they did go after Palin, because (at the time) she looked likely to change the electoral picture. First time in my lifetime that the opposition party ignored the Presidential candidate and focused on the VP candidate.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 12:12 PM (oKE6c)

365 355 This is the kind of rig you need to get through a crowd of hostiles

https://youtu.be/ZQ4sDY4xkW8
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 12:07 PM (39g3+)

Now that's what I'm talkin' about!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2016 12:12 PM (0mRoj)

366 Snow plow... road grader... Hell, battering ram off a trireme is better than... NOTHING.

Geez, you think while Morgan had the welder out to build a better jail for his crazy rescue projects, he coulda spared a few minutes to up-armor the vehicles.

Posted by: The A-Team at April 04, 2016 12:12 PM (H9MG5)

367 He engineered and passed a reduction in Veterans Retirement benefits as the ONLY thing he could find to cut in the entire US Budget.

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ObamaPho are sacred!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 12:12 PM (Nwg0u)

368 I cant believe that all the real fighters have left Alexandria. That in itself was BS. Just like allowing the only doctor to leave and get herself killed, too. Then there are the numerous groups they have beefs with. Do they think they were going to just go away?

I still think if they had planned to take out Negan early thru intelligence and sniping, their problem would go away.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 12:12 PM (iQIUe)

369
a losing VP candidate who runs for president is very successful. See Presidents Bob Dole and Walter Mondale as exhibits A and B.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 11:39 AM (0LHZx)
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Not only that, but a VP candidate who couldn't penetrate Joe Biden's spit-flecked, tongue-protruding laughtrack in debate.

Forget everything to hate about Trump for a second; can you imagine him compliantly struggling to recite facts and figures while someone was cackling loudly and contemptuously at his elbow?

Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 12:13 PM (pC96u)

370
Where are all the walkers? There seems to be very few live people around. So, where are the dead people? And the dead keep growing. People die all the time. Cant stab them all in the head.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 12:14 PM (iQIUe)

371 I think the AOSHQ Skull and Swords logo should be replaced by a close-up crop of those boobs.

Posted by: Corona at April 04, 2016 12:14 PM (ragzU)

372 There's more going on in that picture than the entire 90 minutes of bull shit I watched last night.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at April 04, 2016 12:15 PM (LYCUN)

373 I honestly think he's had a stroke or has gone senile. It's like a completely different person.
My hope was he would change gears, but he just keeps up the same schtick. he won't even crack a book open, every answer is "better deals" which is code for "I don't know"
Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 12:07 PM (BILR

I completely agree. His AIPAC speech was a step in the right direction but he's gone straight back to his stump-mode - reading that stupid snake poem, rambling. The guy needs to start going on script with policy specifics.

But the idea that even the deftest, most perfectly conservatively engineered policy specifics will change any #nevertrumper's mind is a fallacy.

And the idea that a change in rhetoric even could change their minds reflects the extent to which truecon anti-Trump smarties are slaves to aesthetics.

He's going to have to win to win. We'll see.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 12:15 PM (xuouz)

374 I don't blame the writers for running into a wall as far as new material goes (the pre-quel can be/is much more interesting precisely because it depicts a more chaotic phase of the apocalypse), but the writing has generally been lazy and unimaginative for quite a while, as far as scenarios and plot-lines.

Posted by: rhomboid

Yes, the most irritating thing about the show is that the group never learns a single thing from it's experiences.

They have to continually screw up in order for the show runners to introduce the 'arcs' and stupid twists.

Carol running away made zero sense; Morgan was quite literally begging her to stop killing folks and become a peace ninja like him. Then her reason for running away?

"Ah done can't kill no onez any moah."

Well, dipshit, why not just talk to Morgan? And then of course, Morgan has to break his pledge, because why? Because of Carol. DURRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 04, 2016 12:15 PM (A/3fN)

375 @217

Palm Beach Post, 3/29/16

"Trump aide charged with misdemeanor battery"

http://tinyurl.com/h8ojv73

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at April 04, 2016 12:16 PM (t5zYU)

376 I'm not a big Trump fan, but is it really necessary to blatantly lie about what happened?

=========

I do not know who Kurt Schlichter is, but the article seems to be written with hyperbole throughout... I take from that that the author knew Corey Lewandowski isn't actually being charged with battery.

If you are saying that he should not engage in hyperbole for dramatic effect, I think you are barking up the wrong tree. Or you should be condemning whatever posters are posting here as "Michelle Fields" as they are engaging in the same type of hyperbole.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 04, 2016 12:16 PM (3JA/M)

377
The Scots have lost their minds!

http://goo.gl/VxemTs

This is what socialism looks like.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 12:16 PM (iQIUe)

378 First time in my lifetime that the opposition party ignored the Presidential candidate and focused on the VP candidate.
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With three of the four main candidates at 70+yo (close), the VP is crucial. McCain was and is a very old man, yelling at clouds. Three of the four current candidates are the same.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 04, 2016 12:17 PM (MIKMs)

379 299 Interesting stats for Cleavland

demographics:
Black - 53pct
White - 37pct
Hispanic - 9pct

Mayor: Democrat
City Council: 17 members, 16 Democrats and 1 Green Party.

Seems like the optimal place to hold the GOP convention.
Posted by: Kreplach at April 04, 2016 11:49 AM (+oBbu)

_____

Find me a city with over 500K people that isn't 90%+ Democrat run city council.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 12:18 PM (0LHZx)

380
I do think the Donald Trump of 20-30 years ago could have won and won big. You look at interviews of him then and he's actually an intelligent and reasonable figure.

I honestly think he's had a stroke or has gone senile. It's like a completely different person.
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I think the difference is that he's now running for prez. If he was sitting before Congress talking about interest rates or overregulation, he'd sound sane and informed.

Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 12:18 PM (pC96u)

381 With three of the four main candidates at 70+yo
(close), the VP is crucial. McCain was and is a very old man, yelling at
clouds. Three of the four current candidates are the same.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 04, 2016 12:17 PM (MIKMs)
So if/when Trump is the nominee, do you seriously expect the Reds to direct their fire at the VP candidate? Srsly?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 12:18 PM (oKE6c)

382 I doubt that Cruz is really a viable candidate, frankly, and for a simple reason: look where the Reds are directing their fire. They haven't bothered so much as to clear their throats regarding Cruz.

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That will change if Trump is forced out or if Cruz otherwise assumes the lead. Then all the Trump derangement arguments will be shifted to Cruz. Bernie and Hilldog will send their thugs to Cruz rallies then denounce Cruz as violent.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 12:19 PM (Nwg0u)

383 I hope this is not out of place, but here goes.

Dear cobs, and guestbloggers, thank you for the awesome work you do in making this place a top notch website. I know you are not getting paid, so I appreciate the work you do keeping this place humming 7 days a week. Your weekend posts are especially classy.

Now as someone angry at the universe for foisting the choice of Hillary vs. Trump upon me, I nevertheless implore some of you to please avoid taunting Trump supporters, especially from the sidebar. I'm not saying don't be critical of him, just don't do it in a way that will *unnecessarily* antagonize them.

Our Trump supporters (excluding the drive by trolls) are a valuable part of the AoS community and I don't think anything is gained by chasing then off. One day the primary season will be over, so no need to create huge wedges between people just because of politics.

Just my two cents.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 04, 2016 12:19 PM (HKPap)

384 * bored by politics, takes another look at the painting *

Did anyone already note the strategic placement (from a 2D perspective) of the Dude in Red's cupped right hand? Just for a little extra added emphasis, it's like, "that'll fit here just right...!" Know what I mean vern?

Posted by: mindful webworker - details, details at April 04, 2016 12:19 PM (I9SqL)

385 "Trump aide charged with misdemeanor battery"
http://tinyurl.com/h8ojv73
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at April 04, 2016 12:16 PM (t5zYU)

This means he's guilty, right? I'm not a lawyer.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 12:19 PM (xuouz)

386 But the idea that even the deftest, most perfectly conservatively engineered policy specifics will change any #nevertrumper's mind is a fallacy.

And the idea that a change in rhetoric even could change their minds reflects the extent to which truecon anti-Trump smarties are slaves to aesthetics.

He's going to have to win to win. We'll see.
............
Yeah.. it's his "rhetoric" that needs some tweaking.

The man is a fucking trainwreck, and those that have left the maybe-Trump camp have left for good.. all the pivoting in the world ain't bringing them back.

Say hello to a contested convention.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 04, 2016 12:19 PM (so+oy)

387 The placement of the illumination from the candle signifies "high beams."

This is a well-known symbol from the Dutch and Flemish art movement of the first half of the seventeenth century. Everyone knows this.

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 04, 2016 12:20 PM (iIzG7)

388 Yeah.. it's his "rhetoric" that needs some tweaking.
The man is a fucking trainwreck, and those that have left the maybe-Trump camp have left for good.. all the pivoting in the world ain't bringing them back.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 04, 2016 12:19 PM (so+oy)

Let's dig down into this.

What other than his rhetoric needs tweaking?

Please define trainwreck.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 12:21 PM (xuouz)

389 "Also, even if Paul Ryan were interested, no rules ever used by the Republican Party Convention would allow his nomination."

Is that really true?

It's not hard for the Committee to write ostensibly neutral rules that say after the first ballot anything goes. Cruz and Kasich won't be favored by the rules committee, Cruz least of all.

Ryan is a young guy who holds a powerful position with weekends off. I expect he'll wait before making his run at the Iron Throne.

Romney has taken a quite active role in #notTrump, and has already done more to hit Trump than he did to hit Obama in 2012. That's a tell. Romney can say that he got more delegates and more votes than anyone -- albeit in 2012 -- and that the entire field of 17 are by definition Losers.

But Romney still can't win Ohio. Kasich for VP?

For the record I hate Romney as a candidate and correctly predicted that in 2012 he'd lose states like Ohio. He had nothing to run on in 2012 and has less now.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 04, 2016 12:21 PM (r1fLd)

390 I have to agree with the sloppy writing. So much of what they do makes no sense whatsoever. Fear the Walking Dead has promise but the dad needs to go. He's annoying beyond belief.

Posted by: jewells45 at April 04, 2016 12:21 PM (l/N7H)

391
Or you should be condemning whatever posters are posting here as "Michelle Fields" as they are engaging in the same type of hyperbole.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 04, 2016 12:16 PM (3JA/M)
________________________________

Dang,, can't a gal catch a break once in a while...

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 04, 2016 12:22 PM (HSmrB)

392 osted by: chique d'afrique at April 04, 2016 12:19 PM (HKPap)

Thanks chique.

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 12:22 PM (nbrY/)

393 Trump aide charged with misdemeanor battery

Yeah, its legally called battery, but not by any objective standard. The way that article used the term it sounded like she was battered like a wife that shows up to work pretending she got all those bruises from playing roller derby the night before.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 12:22 PM (39g3+)

394 I hope this is not out of place, but here goes.

Dear cobs, and guestbloggers, thank you for the awesome work you do in making this place a top notch website. I know you are not getting paid, so I appreciate the work you do keeping this place humming 7 days a week. Your weekend posts are especially classy.

Now as someone angry at the universe for foisting the choice of Hillary vs. Trump upon me, I nevertheless implore some of you to please avoid taunting Trump supporters, especially from the sidebar. I'm not saying don't be critical of him, just don't do it in a way that will *unnecessarily* antagonize them.

Our Trump supporters (excluding the drive by trolls) are a valuable part of the AoS community and I don't think anything is gained by chasing then off. One day the primary season will be over, so no need to create huge wedges between people just because of politics.

Just my two cents.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 04, 2016 12:19 PM (HKPap)

Amen and the Republican Establishment should be aware of that also and of trying to steal this one.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 04, 2016 12:22 PM (mw8Dm)

395 352 On the contrary, Obama is expanding the Obamapho' program to bring high-speed porn Internet access to the ghetto.
Just put it on our tab, Barry. Apparently some people are destined to work to support other people, other people are destined to sit around on their asses and be supported.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 12:01 PM (oKE6c)

High speed internet is a human right.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 12:06 PM (xuouz)

______

And they keep moving the goalposts of what constitutes high speed. Up until last year, 4mbs was considered high speed. It wasn't lightning speed, but it was fast enough for the typical person to watch netflix and shit.

But now, the definition of high speed is 25mbps. Which means the vast majority of people now don't have "high speed" internet. And it's a crisis of course which will require the govt to spend gajillions of dollars to fix.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 12:23 PM (0LHZx)

396 That will change if Trump is forced out or if Cruz
otherwise assumes the lead. Then all the Trump derangement arguments
will be shifted to Cruz. Bernie and Hilldog will send their thugs to
Cruz rallies then denounce Cruz as violent.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 12:19 PM (Nwg0u)

Of course. But that's exactly my point: in a head-to-head match between Trump and Cruz, the Reds are targeting the more liberal of the two, and totally ignoring the more conservative. Only one explanation comes to mind: they think the more liberal of the two is the greater threat.
Bear in mind that the targeting does not reflect a popular show of hands; the shadowy cabal of Reds that orchestrate these things (as in JournoList) have rendered their considered judgment, and galvanized their apparatchiks accordingly.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 12:23 PM (oKE6c)

397 So if/when Trump is the nominee, do you seriously expect the Reds to direct their fire at the VP candidate? Srsly?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 12:18 PM (oKE6c)
=====Yes. Math is cruel.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 04, 2016 12:23 PM (MIKMs)

398 390 I have to agree with the sloppy writing. So much of what they do makes no sense whatsoever. Fear the Walking Dead has promise but the dad needs to go. He's annoying beyond belief.
Posted by: jewells45 at April 04, 2016 12:21 PM (l/N7H)

===========
What happened to junkie kids dad?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 12:23 PM (iQIUe)

399 But now, the definition of high speed is 25mbps.
Which means the vast majority of people now don't have "high speed"
internet. And it's a crisis of course which will require the govt to
spend gajillions of dollars to fix.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 12:23 PM (0LHZx)
Only in the ghetto. The rest of us are on our own.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 12:24 PM (oKE6c)

400 "Everyone knows this."

Well, look at the art fancy pants.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 04, 2016 12:24 PM (LA7Cm)

401
I doubt that Cruz is really a viable candidate, frankly, and for a simple reason: look where the Reds are directing their fire. They haven't bothered so much as to clear their throats regarding Cruz. That's got to tell you what THEY think of him as an adversary.

Posted by: Jay Guevara

I don't think Cruz is a "good" candidate at all, but I think he has a shot. He's also gotten much better, at first he has this nasally screeching sound when was speaking, he seems to sound more Presidential over the last few months.

The comparison to Trump is what gives Cruz hope in front of a general electorate, suddenly he's not nearly the firebrand anymore. He looks like a vey rational, steady hand.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 12:24 PM (BILR8)

402
They did NOT get ERIC FUKCING CANTOR we'll throw you out on your ass memo. REALLY??? Not even navel gazing???
------------------------

Speaking of that, everyone please blow a ki$$ to Paul Nehlen, who is primarying Ryno.

paulnehlen.com

Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 12:24 PM (pC96u)

403 Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 12:23 PM (0LHZx)
Only in the ghetto. The rest of us are on our own.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 12:24 PM (oKE6c)

____

Correct.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 12:24 PM (0LHZx)

404 Posted by: redbanzai at April 04, 2016 12:16 PM (3JA/M)

I think our problem is a systemic one...

We give the Press more protection because we need them to tell us the Facts... and be protected while doing so.

But many avail themselves of the Press mantle, and thus extra protection, while being blatantly partisan...

Its the Bill O'Reiley factor.... he calls himself a 'News Analysis show' .... but is on Fox NEWS...

He constantly states Opinion as if it is Fact...

Opinions used to be kept on the Editorial Page... now they are on the front page of every newspaper...

Yet, somehow, the 'credentialed' Press still wish to avail themselves of the EXTRA Protection given to the press, by the Constitution.

One reason I used to Love Gutfields RedEye, was the Halftime report.... which Fact Checked what they were saying...

Sadly, we need that with the Press today...

Posted by: Don Quixote, picking up his lance at April 04, 2016 12:25 PM (qf6WZ)

405
Amazing that the top prison sentence for the kidnapping and murder of Aldo Moro was only 15 years.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 12:25 PM (iQIUe)

406 397 So if/when Trump is the nominee, do you seriously expect the Reds to direct their fire at the VP candidate? Srsly?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 12:18 PM (oKE6c)
=====Yes. Math is cruel.
Posted by: mustbequantum at April 04, 2016 12:23 PM (MIKMs)

I'll take that bet, and go further: if/when Trump is the nominee, the vast majority of the electorate on election day will still have no idea who the VP candidate actually is.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 12:25 PM (oKE6c)

407
This means he's guilty, right? I'm not a lawyer.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 12:19 PM (xuouz)
_________________________

Duh...

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 04, 2016 12:25 PM (HSmrB)

408 FTWD - the dad is the only character that my kid wants to survive.

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 12:25 PM (nbrY/)

409 if/when Trump is the nominee, the vast majority of the electorate on election day will still have no idea who the VP candidate actually is.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 12:25 PM (oKE6c)

Ooh so a Trump/Cruz ticket might actually be feasible! Wouldn't want Cruz sinking the ticket's chances otherwise.

/s

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 12:26 PM (xuouz)

410 Let's dig down into this.

What other than his rhetoric needs tweaking?

Please define trainwreck.
.............
You have to be joking. Anyone who asks is beyond hope, and I'm not wasting my time.

Trump loses.. Dems get to name SCOTUS judges for next 4 to 8 years. Period.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 04, 2016 12:27 PM (so+oy)

411 They did NOT get ERIC FUKCING CANTOR we'll throw you out on your ass memo. REALLY???

________

They learned their lesson quickly and now know how to eliminate any competition. See Mississippi primary as Exhibit A.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 12:27 PM (0LHZx)

412 "Also, even if Paul Ryan were interested, no rules ever used by the Republican Party Convention would allow his nomination."

Is that really true?

It's not hard for the Committee to write ostensibly neutral rules
that say after the first ballot anything goes. Cruz and Kasich won't be
favored by the rules committee, Cruz least of all.

Ryan is a young guy who holds a powerful position with weekends off.
I expect he'll wait before making his run at the Iron Throne.

Romney has taken a quite active role in #notTrump, and has already
done more to hit Trump than he did to hit Obama in 2012. That's a tell.
Romney can say that he got more delegates and more votes than anyone
-- albeit in 2012 -- and that the entire field of 17 are by definition
Losers.

But Romney still can't win Ohio. Kasich for VP?

For the record I hate Romney as a candidate and correctly predicted
that in 2012 he'd lose states like Ohio. He had nothing to run on in
2012 and has less now.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 04, 2016 12:21 PM (r1fLd)

Yes that is really true and no they are not going to blow themselves up by moving into the unprecedented territory of allowing people who have not actually run to be nominated.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 04, 2016 12:27 PM (3JA/M)

413 Only one explanation comes to mind: they think the more liberal of the two is the greater threat.

Well, and they think he's a gauche, crass, disgusting human being they dislike at the core.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 12:27 PM (39g3+)

414 >Please define trainwreck.

--

He keeps winning!!!
What a disaster!

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 12:28 PM (nbrY/)

415 Any of you Surface Warfare types been to sea in a Cyclone-class patrol "ship"?
You don't hear a lot about them (they were the biggest of a set of SEAL prototypes that was abandoned, and are slated to be replaced by the Littoral Combats if they find one that will float). At 175 feet by 25 beam, I'm interested in their seakeeping ability -- but not enough to want to get out of sight of shore on one. They look fast, and are small-armed to the teeth.

Interesting take on the old line of definition between ship and boat: a boat leans into a turn, a ship, away. These little buggers definitely lean into their turns. So small frigate, or big E-boat?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 04, 2016 12:28 PM (xq1UY)

416 >>I have to agree with the sloppy writing. So much of what they do makes
no sense whatsoever. Fear the Walking Dead has promise but the dad
needs to go. He's annoying beyond belief.

At minimum, the group should have set up zombie traps like the Governor had - the noisy windmill surrounded by deep pits. I don't see why, at this stage, they haven't aggressively neutralized the zombies in their neighborhood (the mass zombie march seemed to happen because: cool visuals!!).

The problem I have w/FTWD is that teen stupidity factors into a lot of drama. Not saying that doesn't happen, but it seems to be their go-to plot driver. Ugh.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 04, 2016 12:28 PM (NOIQH)

417 if/when Trump is the nominee, the vast majority of the electorate on election day will still have no idea who the VP candidate actually is.
Posted by: Jay Guevara

Sort of like Perot's VP pick.

If Trump is the nominee, he should pick someone like Ben Carson, make it an outsider ticket and just throw the Hail Mary.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 12:28 PM (BILR8)

418 Trump is NOT the VP type. That would be like George Steinbrenner being a Junior Partner.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 04, 2016 12:28 PM (mw8Dm)

419 Or you should be condemning whatever posters are posting here as "Michelle Fields" as they are engaging in the same type of hyperbole.

-
Those are jokes. They may or may not be funny or in good taste but a joke is one thing and false accusations of battery are another.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 12:28 PM (Nwg0u)

420 It's better for my blood pressure if I comment about the breastage in the painting, than if I were to comment on the latest forays in the Trump Wars.

Although, under the right circumstances, the breastage can also play havoc with my blood pressure, so it's probably a wash. Lovely breastage, though.

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 04, 2016 12:29 PM (iIzG7)

421 The Scots have lost their minds!

Adds note to Bruce With a Wang! Dossier.

Posted by: Named Person at April 04, 2016 12:29 PM (P/aDH)

422 Trump should pick Gingrich for VP

Insider, knows how to run DC, etc

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 12:29 PM (nbrY/)

423 Trump is NOT the VP type. That would be like George Steinbrenner being a Junior Partner.

-
Trump will never accept a VP slot.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 12:30 PM (Nwg0u)

424 They learned their lesson quickly and now know how to eliminate any competition. See Mississippi primary as Exhibit A.

Exactly, they learned who their real enemy is and their first priority to fight: conservatives in their own party.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 12:30 PM (39g3+)

425 Would someone look at this, and explain again, where the "Socialized Medicine" charge comes from:

http://tinyurl.com/hv5ekqc

Posted by: franksalterego at April 04, 2016 12:30 PM (Cd+Fa)

426 Anyone care to explain how the national debt is to get paid off in 8 years?

2 TRILLION dollar surpluses for 8 years doesn't quite get us there.

Posted by: Pedro at April 04, 2016 12:30 PM (R8ea6)

427
Woman is forced to choose between holding her baby and FIGHTING--and chooses to drop the child so she can fend off attack

http://goo.gl/jqDkgP

She wasnt forced to do anything. She could have simply gone back into her apt.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 12:30 PM (iQIUe)

428
Oh.... and Hey Mets Fans!!

The Royals have whipped Harvey now TWO games in a row....

Posted by: fixerupper at April 04, 2016 12:30 PM (8XRCm)

429 426 Anyone care to explain how the national debt is to get paid off in 8 years?

--

Nuke the creditors

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 12:31 PM (nbrY/)

430 You have to be joking. Anyone who asks is beyond hope, and I'm not wasting my time.

Trump loses.. Dems get to name SCOTUS judges for next 4 to 8 years. Period.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 04, 2016 12:27 PM (so+oy)

Expressions of disbelief, name calling, dismissal, predictions of doom, rejection of further discussion.

Yes you occupy the moral high ground, truly.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 12:31 PM (xuouz)

431 Posted by: mindful webworker - details, details at April 04, 2016 12:19 PM (I9SqL)

I noticed that too and couldn't come up with a clever comment about it

Posted by: IP at April 04, 2016 12:31 PM (aQQbl)

432 Anyone care to explain how the national debt is to get paid off in 8 years?

Sure...but first you send me 1 million dollars and blow me. LMAO

( you do know I am joking right?)

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 04, 2016 12:31 PM (mw8Dm)

433 Find me a city with over 500K people that isn't 90%+ Democrat run city council.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 12:18 PM (0LHZx)
--------------
Indianapolis

13 dem - 12 repub

Posted by: RioBravo at April 04, 2016 12:31 PM (NUqwG)

434 Trump should pick Gingrich for VP

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Oh fucking GREAT!!! LEts just nominate TWO TOTAL ASSHOLES on the same ticket..... We are NEVER going to win unless we nominate somebody like Jeb or Jon Huntsman.

Posted by: #NeverTrumpers Everywhere at April 04, 2016 12:32 PM (8XRCm)

435 "Anyone care to explain how the national debt is to get paid off in 8 years?"

Easy -- we file for bankruptcy, walk away from the debt, and leave someone else holding the bag. There's only one candidate with experience at this...

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 04, 2016 12:32 PM (iIzG7)

436 429 426 Anyone care to explain how the national debt is to get paid off in 8 years?

--

Nuke the creditors
Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 12:31 PM (nbrY/)

1. Chinese invade somebody -- doesn't matter who.

2. Repudiate Chinese debt.

3. Profit.

Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at April 04, 2016 12:32 PM (v9gSJ)

437 Good luck, JJ. Let us know how you make out.

Posted by: Darles Chickens at April 04, 2016 12:32 PM (rkIFo)

438 And they keep moving the goalposts of what constitutes high speed. Up until last year, 4mbs was considered high speed. It wasn't lightning speed, but it was fast enough for the typical person to watch netflix and shit.

But now, the definition of high speed is 25mbps. Which means the vast majority of people now don't have "high speed" internet. And it's a crisis of course which will require the govt to spend gajillions of dollars to fix.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 12:23 PM (0LHZx)

Progress!

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 04, 2016 12:33 PM (KUaJL)

439 Find me a city with over 500K people that isn't 90%+ Democrat run city council.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo

Phoenix, AZ

It's the 6th largest city in the US

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 12:33 PM (BILR8)

440 I'll take that bet, and go further: if/when
Trump is the nominee, the vast majority of the electorate on election
day will still have no idea who the VP candidate actually is. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 12:25 PM (oKE6c)
======

And we go back again to the 'better speechwriter than my speechwriters' and the rest of the nonsense we have endured for the past 8 years. Sharing credit also includes sharing blame. Is there someone with a small enough ego to put up with that nonsense -- even with the remote hope of power in the future?

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 04, 2016 12:33 PM (MIKMs)

441 do you seriously expect the Reds to direct their fire at the VP candidate? Srsly?

-
Do you remember 2008?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 12:33 PM (Nwg0u)

442 The hour is late, and we have to strike the left where they live, where they believe they are strongest, shine the light on them and their fascist tactics, and trust in the goodness of the American people. Shying away from their identity politics attacks and caving to their demands will doom what is left of the Republic.

It's late, but not too late.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 12:34 PM (xuouz)

443 I shall rename this painting yet again:

"The Hills Are Alive, With The Sound Of Lute Music"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 12:34 PM (NeFrd)

444 Anyone care to explain how the national debt is to get paid off in 8 years?

-----

Well.... when the International Caliphate gains power and the ISIS flag flyies over the Whitehouse..... charging interest will be against the will of Allah.

Posted by: #NeverTrumpers Everywhere at April 04, 2016 12:34 PM (8XRCm)

445
I would guess the party leadership is scheming to put together a Rubio-Kasich ticket. History suggests that in the case of a disputed convention, the person who gets the nod is the 3rd or 4th place primary finisher.

Posted by: V the K at April 04, 2016 11:37 AM (O7MnT)
-------------------

Agree. That's why Rubio hasn't endorsed Cruz.

Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 12:34 PM (pC96u)

446 Here ya go.

http://tinyurl.com/zgbjad6

Posted by: Corona at April 04, 2016 12:34 PM (ragzU)

447
I shall rename this painting yet again:

"The Hills Are Alive, With The Sound Of Lute Music"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 12:34 PM

Liar.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 04, 2016 12:34 PM (bzd8I)

448 Trump loses.. Dems get to name SCOTUS judges for next 4 to 8 years. Period.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 04, 2016 12:27 PM (so+oy)

Same thing if Cruz loses. The question is which one is more likely. As indicated above, it's clear which one the Reds think is more likely to win.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 12:35 PM (oKE6c)

449 "Anyone care to explain how the national debt is to get paid off in 8 years?"

I wonder if it's feasible to get into a war with China over their adventurism in the South China Sea, and then nationalize their domestic assets.

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 04, 2016 12:36 PM (iIzG7)

450 Anyone care to explain how the national debt is to get paid off in 8 years?

Sure...but first you send me 1 million dollars and blow me. LMAO

( you do know I am joking right?)

---

well, it will be a challenge to come up with the million.

Posted by: Pedro at April 04, 2016 12:36 PM (R8ea6)

451 I'm not quite sure I get the anger about hosting the convention in Cleveland. It's a perfect example of what happens to a place when leftist policy is allowed to go to it's logical conclusion.

A smart political party would mention that. Which of course means that the GOP definitely won't.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 04, 2016 12:36 PM (KUaJL)

452 google fiber is coming to charlotte with their 1000 mbps or whatever and it'll only be available in public housing and shithole areas

Posted by: nckate at April 04, 2016 12:37 PM (A/qli)

453 Anyone care to explain how the national debt is to get paid off in 8 years?

Easy, but it won't be done.

Step One: conduct an outside, aggressive audit of all government to find waste, fraud, duplication, and unconstitutional spending. Identify and specify.
Step Two: Slash congressional salaries and office budgets by 30%. Cut benefits and freebies for congress by half. This would have little mathematical effect, but it would be symbolic: we're hurting ourselves first.
Step Three: cut across the board, all agencies and bodies in the federal government by 30%. Start out the process with defense, to demonstrate you are serious and cut with your own sacred cow, first.
Step Four: eliminate all unconstitutional spending of any kind, including any and all departments that are extraconstitutional, such as Education and Arts.
Step Five: demand all people complaining immediately step up with private donations and state programs to take up the slack.

When the debt is almost gone, slash taxes back to the point that the budget is balanced, and point out to states that they can raise taxes and not change anything in their citizens bank accounts.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 12:37 PM (39g3+)

454 Woman is forced to choose between holding her ~~baby~~ revenue stream and FIGHTING--and chooses to drop the ~~child~~ welfare payment increase so she can fend off attack

http://goo.gl/jqDkgP

She wasnt forced to do anything. She could have simply gone back into her apt.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 12:30 PM (iQIUe)

FIFY

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 04, 2016 12:38 PM (mEZce)

455 "Anyone care to explain how the national debt is to get paid off in 8 years?"

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Forget the Chinese. The amount of chinese held Treasuries is actually not very big anymore.

On the other hand..... we've been monetizing our debt now for about six years.

The Fed holds most of those Treasuries. Just Like IOUs to yourself.

What could POSSIBLY go wrong.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 04, 2016 12:38 PM (8XRCm)

456 Expressions of disbelief, name calling, dismissal, predictions of doom, rejection of further discussion.

Yes you occupy the moral high ground, truly.
...........
I really don't care anymore about being polite.

If you like Trump, you are blind to his flip-flops, his changing from a liberal to a conservative, from a pro-choicer to a pro-lifer, blind to his lack of knowledge about almost every subject a president should have studied up on, blind to his gross language about women, blind to his stupid promises that make absolutely no sense - like eliminating 18 trillion in debt in 8 years.. tha man can make any stupid statement you can think of and you folks not only believe him, but think the rest of us just are haters.. for fucks sake, wake up.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 04, 2016 12:38 PM (so+oy)

457 Two pickets to Titsburgh please.

Posted by: Roland THTG at April 04, 2016 12:38 PM (QM5S2)

458 Or you should be condemning whatever posters are
posting here as "Michelle Fields" as they are engaging in the same type
of hyperbole.

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Those are jokes. They may or may not be funny or in good taste but a
joke is one thing and false accusations of battery are another.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 12:28 PM (Nwg0u)

It is the same type of over the top writing in both case so, if you are being consistent, you can say its all joking or you can take the tack that both are out of line.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 04, 2016 12:39 PM (3JA/M)

459 "I nevertheless implore some of you to please avoid taunting Trump supporters,"

I disagree. Have at it, if that's what you believe. I perversely enjoy seeing TDS displayed here, and there's been a lot of it.

Trump will either recover from a bad March or he won't. If he keeps being his own worst enemy, he won't get to 1,237.

If he loses Wisconsin, which looks likely, then next up is NY where Trump can win most of the 95 delegates if he gets over 50%, which the most recent poll says he will. NY is WTA at the district level if a candidate clears 50%. Trump will run strong across the state, and on current trajectory should clear 50% in most districts.
If so, he's back on track to 1,237 or so.

After NY it'll be even clearer that Cruz is running as a spoiler with no chance of getting the nomination. So his effectiveness as a Trump alternative will wither. I expect Kasich will start to do better as the anti-Trump.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 04, 2016 12:39 PM (r1fLd)

460 Brawl between two women kicks off on housing estate in the United States

All classy and shit

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 04, 2016 12:39 PM (mEZce)

461 Same thing if Cruz loses. The question is which one is more likely. As indicated above, it's clear which one the Reds think is more likely to win.
Posted by: Jay Guevara

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I wouldn't look too deeply into who the Left attacks.

Trump makes a ripe target because he gives them an opening. When you have a candidate making constant gaffes, they are going to get hit for it.

Liberals are looking at the same polls we do and Cruz is outperforming Trump by a wide margin across the board.

It's simply harder to attack Cruz because he's not saying stupid shit on a regular basis.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 12:40 PM (BILR8)

462 Remarkably, while this art has 100% fewer trees than the paintings usually shown, it creates much more wood.

Contemplate the upon the tree of woe...or the barrel.

Posted by: Grimaldi at April 04, 2016 12:40 PM (/Tahw)

463 "On the other hand..... we've been monetizing our debt now for about six years. The Fed holds most of those Treasuries. Just Like IOUs to yourself."

Why, that's exactly the process Milo Minderbinder used in Catch-22. I never before realized that Joseph Heller wrote that book as an economic model.

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 04, 2016 12:40 PM (iIzG7)

464 "Anyone care to explain how the national debt is to get paid off in 8 years?"

There is that Trillion Dollar Platinum coin idea Matt Yglesias is so enamored of.

Posted by: V the K at April 04, 2016 12:40 PM (O7MnT)

465 >>Anyone care to explain how the national debt is to get paid off in 8 years?

>>2 TRILLION dollar surpluses for 8 years doesn't quite get us there.

You forgot a key piece. Trump has stated that he will not touch entitlements at all.

So the answer to your question under that condition is it is impossible.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2016 12:41 PM (/tuJf)

466 True story: I blanked on Matt Yglesias name so I Googled "Biggest idiot on the internet" and found it that way.

Posted by: V the K at April 04, 2016 12:41 PM (O7MnT)

467 439 Find me a city with over 500K people that isn't 90%+ Democrat run city council.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo

Phoenix, AZ

It's the 6th largest city in the US
Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 12:33 PM (BILR

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Phoenix has a Dem mayor who won re-election last year with 65% of the vote. Talk about a hotbed of Republican support in that city!!

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 12:42 PM (0LHZx)

468 466 LOL

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 12:42 PM (nbrY/)

469 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 12:37 PM (39g3+)

Some food for thought from Karl Denninger:

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231295

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 04, 2016 12:42 PM (wYnyS)

470 "Anyone care to explain how the national debt is to get paid off in 8 years?"

I wonder if it's feasible to get into a war with China over their adventurism in the South China Sea, and then nationalize their domestic assets.
Posted by: Qoheleth

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Inflation and can kicking.

Most of the debt is still owed to domestic bondholders.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 12:42 PM (BILR8)

471 Looks a touch nippy there ...

Posted by: RNR at April 04, 2016 12:43 PM (OuJcq)

472 Phoenix has a Dem mayor who won re-election last year with 65% of the vote.

See? I told you my immigration policies were working.

Posted by: Barack McCain at April 04, 2016 12:43 PM (O7MnT)

473 Hyperinflation will deal with that debt toot-suite.

Posted by: Chupacabra at April 04, 2016 12:43 PM (V40IZ)

474 "Trump aide charged with misdemeanor battery"
http://tinyurl.com/h8ojv73
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at April 04, 2016 12:16 PM (t5zYU)

This means he's guilty, right? I'm not a lawyer.

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Absolutely. Just like Rick Perry is guilty as hell.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 12:43 PM (Nwg0u)

475 448 Trump loses.. Dems get to name SCOTUS judges for next 4 to 8 years. Period.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 04, 2016 12:27 PM (so+oy)

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Oh God no!! If Hillary appoints judges, they might call Obamacare a tax and allow it to destroy the best health care system in the world.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 12:43 PM (0LHZx)

476 460 Brawl between two women kicks off on housing estate in the United States

All classy and shit
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 04, 2016 12:39 PM (mEZce)

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Funny they don't mention where exactly...

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 04, 2016 12:44 PM (rlfds)

477 Well, and they think he's a gauche, crass, disgusting human being they dislike at the core.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 12:27 PM (39g3+)

Sure, but if he were down in Kasich territory, they wouldn't give a shit. Notice also that that applies to Hillary, and yet not a peep about her until Sanders came onto the scene, and even now not much of a peep. True also of Obongo; giving the finger to opponents and holding his balls during the Pledge of Allegiance certainly qualifies as gauche, crass, and disgusting.

So it's not gauche, crass, and disgusting that bothers them. That's pretty much a requirement for a Dem candidate for any office, in fact. (As a few examples, Bob Filner, Barney Frank, Gerry Studds, Al Sharpton, Ted Kennedy, etc., all of whom had serious moral issues, yet are Dem heroes.)

And they don't dislike him at the core; if he were a Dem candidate, they'd love him. It's that they don't like his policies, and they think he is likely to win. See, e.g., Palin ca. 2008. The Reds largely ignored McCain, and went for her throat, because at the time she had galvanized a moribund campaign, and thereby presented an electoral threat.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 12:44 PM (oKE6c)

478 Ignoramus, I actually don't believe there's that much TDS here. There's a lot of frustration and incredulity (which I share) at Trump and at his supporters' incredible unwavering loyalty, but I think the actual cases of TDS are few.

Having said that, I think we can express our frustrations without being total jerks.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 04, 2016 12:44 PM (HKPap)

479 Those are jokes. They may or may not be funny or in good taste but a
joke is one thing and false accusations of battery are another.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 12:28 PM (Nwg0u)
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They're hilarious. Forget trying to convince sourpuss.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 12:45 PM (iQIUe)

480 Find me a city with over 500K people that isn't 90%+ Democrat run city council.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo

Phoenix, AZ

It's the 6th largest city in the US
Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 12:33 PM (BILR

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Phoenix has a Dem mayor who won re-election last year with 65% of the vote. Talk about a hotbed of Republican support in that city!!

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo

It's not a 90% "Democrat" City Council, so I'm guessing this is your way of making a retraction?

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 12:45 PM (BILR8)

481 "Hyperinflation will deal with that debt toot-suite."

Good point. When our economy detonates and we experience Zimbabwe-esque hyperinflation, it won't be long before eighteen trillion dollars will buy you a medium pizza and a pitcher of domestic beer.

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 04, 2016 12:45 PM (iIzG7)

482 Cities are run by Democrats. Some are more Democrat than others, but they're all Democrat. So unless the RNC is held on someone's farm, out in the middle of nowhere, it will by default be held in a Democrat run city. That's just reality.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 12:45 PM (0LHZx)

483 435 "Anyone care to explain how the national debt is to get paid off in 8 years?"

Easy -- we file for bankruptcy, walk away from the debt, and leave someone else holding the bag. There's only one candidate with experience at this...

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 04, 2016 12:32 PM (iIzG7)

The Fed Res Bank went from a few hundred billion in Reserves, to over $4.5 TRILLION on its balance sheet, in the last 10 years... mainly by printing money (quantitative easing).

A lot of that is held in US Debt...

That's a hell of a dent in the debt right there...

Posted by: Don Quixote, picking up his lance at April 04, 2016 12:46 PM (qf6WZ)

484 Liberals are looking at the same polls we do and Cruz is outperforming Trump by a wide margin across the board.

It's simply harder to attack Cruz because he's not saying stupid shit on a regular basis.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 12:40 PM (BILR
But first, you have to tell people who Cruz is. Most LIVs think Ted Cruz is the Yankees' new shortstop.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 12:46 PM (oKE6c)

485 Just realized something last night as I was going to sleep.

From the end of WWI to my birth in 1965 was just over 47 years.

From 1965 until now is just over 50 years.

So, I've been alive longer than the time between WWI and my birth, which just feels... very weird.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 12:46 PM (39g3+)

486 It's not a 90% "Democrat" City Council, so I'm guessing this is your way of making a retraction?

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Oh FFS don't be so pedantic.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 12:47 PM (0LHZx)

487 The Fed holds most of those Treasuries. Just Like IOUs to yourself.

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I use the same technique counting calories on my diet. Works like a charm.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 12:47 PM (Nwg0u)

488 My local PBS station decided to run "Chariots of Fire" on Saturday evening.
Got into looking at what happened to some of the actors after this award winning picture.

Ian Charleson ... played the straight laced Christian Scot who dared to put "God before King", Eric Liddell
Ian Charleson went on to become one of the UK's first actors to die of HIV/AIDS in 1990.

Brad Davis ... played the American, Jackson Scholz
Brad Davis went on to die of HIV/AIDS in 1991.

Ben Cross ... played the "fastest human" of 1924, Harold Abrahams
Ben Cross went on to play Mr Spock's father, Sarek, in Star Trek (2009)

Ian Holm ... play half Italian coach, Sam Mussabini
Ian Holm went on to play Father Vito Cornelius in "The Fifth Element" (1997)

Posted by: Obama For-ks America at April 04, 2016 12:47 PM (e8kgV)

489 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 12:46 PM (39g3+)

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I was born in '68, so I'm getting there.

And yeah, it's weird as shit.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 04, 2016 12:48 PM (rlfds)

490 I really don't care anymore about being polite.

If you like Trump, you are blind to his flip-flops, his changing from a liberal to a conservative, from a pro-choicer to a pro-lifer, blind to his lack of knowledge about almost every subject a president should have studied up on, blind to his gross language about women, blind to his stupid promises that make absolutely no sense - like eliminating 18 trillion in debt in 8 years.. tha man can make any stupid statement you can think of and you folks not only believe him, but think the rest of us just are haters.. for fucks sake, wake up.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry

Our problem is that the charge of flip/flopping and being incoherent isn't limited to Trump.

Just as many observed that running the guy Romneycare is named after was a bad idea, the notion of the GOP complaining about the skewed mess that is Trump is ludicrous.

Take a good look at the 'front runners' they put up. Look at katshit and the endorsements he's gotten.

Is Trump a shitty mess? Yes.

I'm supposed to believe that he is terrible in both relative and absolute terms. The latter, yes. The former? Hell no.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 04, 2016 12:48 PM (326rv)

491 So, I've been alive longer than the time between WWI and my birth, which just feels... very weird.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 12:46 PM (39g3+)
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Huh. I feel sore and achy a lot but not weird!

Posted by: RioBravo at April 04, 2016 12:49 PM (NUqwG)

492 Liberals are looking at the same polls we do and Cruz is outperforming Trump by a wide margin across the board.

It's simply harder to attack Cruz because he's not saying stupid shit on a regular basis.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 12:40 PM (BILR
Also, they don't need any material; they'll gin shit up as necessary. See, e.g., "binders of women" and "dog on the roof 30 years ago." Now I think objectively Romney was perhaps the most upright, fundamentally decent man to run for President in the history of the Republic, and yet by election day the Reds had managed to demonize even him.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 12:49 PM (oKE6c)

493 If you like Trump, you are blind to his flip-flops, his changing from a liberal to a conservative, from a pro-choicer to a pro-lifer, blind to his lack of knowledge about almost every subject a president should have studied up on, blind to his gross language about women, blind to his stupid promises that make absolutely no sense - like eliminating 18 trillion in debt in 8 years.. tha man can make any stupid statement you can think of and you folks not only believe him, but think the rest of us just are haters.. for fucks sake, wake up.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 04, 2016 12:38 PM (so+oy)

Now we're talking.

I'm not blind to any of it, I just prize a hardline immigration stance, an opposition to global socialism, and a rejection of PC speech police tactics above a well-polished public speaker. He's not a DC creature. He's a New York real estate creature - no less odious, but it's a different flavor of stink, and the enemy of my enemy is, as was noted above, my friend.

He's (relatively) new to politics and is enjoying the gamesmanship of it. It's a campaign promise. What's importance is the direction of his statements. He's "promising" to pay off the entire debt. Is that likely? NO. Should we try to do it? YES. And the left's argument is that it's not even a big deal! We should double it! Get it?

You don't believe him. I choose to. I don't have a problem with his persona, while I doubt you can even listen to him speak for more than 10 seconds at a time (and I get that, I really do).

So, as I said in the comment you responded to above: if he wins, he'll win. We'll have to see what happens. I already voted.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 12:49 PM (xuouz)

494 "... blind to his stupid promises that make absolutely no sense - like eliminating 18 trillion in debt in 8 years.. "

As president, I could do it in 8 weeks.

I would create a semi-governmental agency to monetize certain federal assets immediately and sell them off over the next 100 years. Offshore oil and mineral rights to a 200 mile limit come to mind.

Total federal assets that the government has no business owning (according to the constitution) would exceed 70 trillion.

All it take is the will to do it.

Posted by: jwest at April 04, 2016 12:50 PM (Zs4uk)

495 485 Just realized something last night as I was going to sleep.

From the end of WWI to my birth in 1965 was just over 47 years.

From 1965 until now is just over 50 years.

So, I've been alive longer than the time between WWI and my birth, which just feels... very weird.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 12:46 PM (39g3+)

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I had that WHOA!! moment last year when there was all that talk of Back To The Future 30th anniversary. I was born in 1975, so the same number of years - 30 that had elapsed since the original BTTF movie was also the number of years between the end of WW2 and the year I was born.

And that was mind boggling.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 12:50 PM (0LHZx)

496 Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 04, 2016 12:33 PM (KUaJL)

As long as a Dindu Nuffin can't download the contents of the Library of Congress in less than a microsecond to facilitate his college studies, we'll need active government in the internet markets.

By the way, the internet would be much faster for "everybody", if we cut off all the links to conservative web sites!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 04, 2016 12:50 PM (wYnyS)

497 Now I think objectively Romney was perhaps the most upright, fundamentally decent man to run for President in the history of the Republic, and yet by election day the Reds had managed to demonize even him.

Which is when the left discovered that they could make up any outrageous shit they wanted about a Republican and their idiot partisans would believe it. "Romney's going to outlaw tampons!"

Posted by: V the K at April 04, 2016 12:50 PM (O7MnT)

498 Joncelli ... I think you're right on this. For a while, I've thought the US would simply default on the debt ... at least the part owned by the US public via securities and the SocSec Trust Fund.

I think they'll do it in combination withba rollout of a Universal Pension ... Just to give the peeps some hope of getting their money back by willingly forking over even more ... for example, surrendering 401k and IRA accounts.

They'll sell it like a annuity ... for every 1K you give up, they'll promise X per month in benefits. Of course, good luck collecting.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 04, 2016 12:50 PM (W+w2W)

499
True story: I blanked on Matt Yglesias name so I Googled "Biggest idiot on the internet" and found it that way.

**wipes brow**

Whew! That was close!

Posted by: Jharles Chonson at April 04, 2016 12:51 PM (X6fMO)

500 Picture dialogue:

Job Applicant (leaning forward): I'm really looking forward to being a waitress here at "Luters".

Manager: Umm, that's "Hooters"!

Job Applicant: Whatever!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 12:51 PM (NeFrd)

501 "All it take is the will to do it."

And a buyer with that much spare coin to purchase it.

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 04, 2016 12:51 PM (iIzG7)

502 just watched the season finale of twd......damn i wonder who's dead

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 04, 2016 12:51 PM (0O7c5)

503
google fiber is coming to charlotte with their 1000 mbps or whatever and it'll only be available in public housing and shithole areas
Posted by: nckate

Who's paying for it.

I know. We are.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 04, 2016 12:51 PM (FkBIv)

504 So, I've been alive longer than the time between WWI and my birth, which just feels... very weird.

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When I was learning to read in elementary school, I read Civil War books and it was exactly 100 years since the battles I was reading about. Then I saw it's 150 years since those battles.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 12:52 PM (Nwg0u)

505 It's not a 90% "Democrat" City Council, so I'm guessing this is your way of making a retraction?

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Oh FFS don't be so pedantic.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo

Making ridiculous statements that have no grounding in reality just must be your thing.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 12:52 PM (BILR8)

506 Who the fuck is Matty Glesias?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 12:52 PM (xuouz)

507
489 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 12:46 PM (39g3+)

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I was born in '68, so I'm getting there.

And yeah, it's weird as shit.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 04, 2016 12:48 PM (rlfds)

The one that freaks me out???

I've 56... my son is 25...

We went to the Moon in my GRANDFATHER's lifetime.... yet not in my Son's....

Posted by: Don Quixote, picking up his lance at April 04, 2016 12:52 PM (qf6WZ)

508 Oh FFS don't be so pedantic.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo

Making ridiculous statements that have no grounding in reality just must be your thing.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 12:52 PM (BILR

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OK pedantic it is then. Have at it.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 12:53 PM (0LHZx)

509
It is the same type of over the top writing in both case so, if you are being consistent, you can say its all joking or you can take the tack that both are out of line.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 04, 2016 12:39 PM (3JA/M)
__________________________

My elbo is out of line...

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 04, 2016 12:53 PM (HSmrB)

510 Well now, isn't this cozy...

A Ted Cruz super PAC made a curious donation back in June 2015...

It gave a half a million dollars to fromer tech executive Carly Fiorina's super PAC, Carly for America. The Washington Post broke the story back in late July.

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It must have been on page B18.

Posted by: franksalterego at April 04, 2016 12:53 PM (Cd+Fa)

511 True story: I blanked on Matt Yglesias name so I Googled "Biggest idiot on the internet" and found it that way

I'm amazed your computer didn't blow up.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 12:53 PM (oKE6c)

512

has anyone talked about the matchmakers glowing orbs yet? Its like I dont know you guys anymore

Posted by: ThunderB at April 04, 2016 12:54 PM (zOTsN)

513 I've learned the hard way on here not to mention when I was born.

Because it's, uh, it's tough being one of the older, I mean more experienced, commenters around here. You know?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 12:54 PM (xuouz)

514 @379

Closest that fits the bill is Colorado Springs, CO.

Just under 500k

78pct white population.

Republican mayor.

Can't find the party affiliation of the members of the at-large city council but looking at the pictures they have the "look" of being Republican, you know that look I'm talking about.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 04, 2016 12:54 PM (+oBbu)

515 And how do you know the % of Dems on the Phoenix city council Mr. Pedant? They're non-partisan elections. For all you know it could be 100%.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 12:54 PM (0LHZx)

516 Posted by: Obama For-ks America at April 04, 2016 12:47 PM (e8kgV)

Nigel Havers... played Lord Andrew Lindsay
Nigel Havers went on to play the doctor in Empire of the Sun, is a Tory, and doesnt give a shit about lefty twats.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 12:54 PM (iQIUe)

517 So, I've been alive longer than the time between WWI and my birth, which just feels... very weird.

As much time has passed since the time the music I listened to in high school was made, as had passed between then and the Nat King Cole/Perry Como Era.

Posted by: V the K at April 04, 2016 12:54 PM (O7MnT)

518 has anyone talked about the matchmakers glowing orbs yet? Its like I dont know you guys anymore
Posted by: ThunderB at April 04, 2016 12:54 PM (zOTsN)

It inspired me to sing a song, idk what you're talking about.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 12:55 PM (xuouz)

519

ha looks like only the first 200 or so

Posted by: ThunderB at April 04, 2016 12:55 PM (zOTsN)

520 "has anyone talked about the matchmakers glowing orbs yet?"

I nominate her for a Golden Globes award... IYKWIMAITYD...

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 04, 2016 12:55 PM (iIzG7)

521 >>I'm not blind to any of it, I just prize a hardline immigration stance

You do know Trump has already repudiated his "hardline" stance on immigration, right? This is typical Trump and he laid out his negotiating strategy years ago; stake a position far beyond what you think you can get and then slowly walk it back in the hope that you can get something. He's no more an immigration hardliner than he is a conservative.

Why do some Trump supporters only pay attention to the statements they like and ignore the rest?

Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2016 12:55 PM (/tuJf)

522 Yeah but a city of 78K probably doesn't have the ability to host the RNC.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 12:55 PM (0LHZx)

523 Also, they don't need any material; they'll gin shit up as necessary. See, e.g., "binders of women" and "dog on the roof 30 years ago." Now I think objectively Romney was perhaps the most upright, fundamentally decent man to run for President in the history of the Republic, and yet by election day the Reds had managed to demonize even him.
Posted by: Jay Guevara

I really don't think those attacks went anywhere, but yea, they'll make something up if they don't have anything.

Romney lost for a variety of reasons, but it wasn't because the Democrats had successfully made him misogynist and animal abuser.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 12:55 PM (BILR8)

524 Total federal assets that the government has no business owning (according to the constitution) would exceed 70 trillion.

All it take is the will to do it.

Posted by: jwest at April 04, 2016 12:50 PM (Zs4uk)

Hell.... just selling the land in the West would clear the debt...

Posted by: Don Quixote, picking up his lance at April 04, 2016 12:55 PM (qf6WZ)

525 Last time we went to the moon, Dragnet was still on the air. Somehow we're supposed to believe that there is NOTHING else to be learned from it?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 12:56 PM (39g3+)

526 the Reds had managed to demonize even him.

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And when they can get half the conservatives to pile on, it's a grand slam!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 12:57 PM (Nwg0u)

527 is she the matchmaker or the one being matched?

Posted by: ThunderB at April 04, 2016 12:57 PM (zOTsN)

528 I would guess the party leadership is scheming to
put together a Rubio-Kasich ticket. History suggests that in the case of
a disputed convention, the person who gets the nod is the 3rd or 4th
place primary finisher.

Posted by: V the K at April 04, 2016 11:37 AM (O7MnT)

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Agree. That's why Rubio hasn't endorsed Cruz.

Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 12:34 PM (pC96u)

According to the rules in place now, if you do not have the support of the majority of delegates from 8 states when candidates are first put on the list (at the start of the convention), you cannot be added as a candidate after. That is not likely to change as the change does not benefit the two front runners. Wishcast all you want but the nominee will be Trump or Cruz unless Kasich somehow wins 7 more states between now and the end of primary season.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 04, 2016 12:57 PM (3JA/M)

529 You do know Trump has already repudiated his "hardline" stance on immigration, right?
Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2016 12:55 PM (/tuJf)

Is that a fact. Which part of it did he repudiate?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 12:57 PM (xuouz)

530 "Yeah but a city of 78K probably doesn't have the ability to host the RNC."

The way the GOP is collapsing, if they screw up this election, they'll be able to host the 2020 convention in Adelanto, California, and put up all the delegates at the Carriage House Motel.

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 04, 2016 12:57 PM (iIzG7)

531 All it take is the will to do it.Posted by: jwest at April 04, 2016 12:50 PM (Zs4uk)That, right there, whether one is a Trump, Cruz or (gaia forbid) a Kasich supporter, is the bottom line.The next president, no matter whom, is going to be served up the biggest, steamiest plate of shit any president has had to eat since Lincoln. And I would bet dollars to donuts that things on the domestic front are multitudes of times worse than what we know simply because of the administration's desperate attempt at building Potemkin villages.To return to fiscal sanity, global respect and Constitutional government means doing what has to be done while remaining completely deaf to the shrieks and propaganda of the enemy. The next president will have to ignore the MFMs nightly parade of "human wreckage stories" and the Democrat screams of "Hitler!" in order to ram the medicine down the country's throat.

Posted by: Jharles Chonson at April 04, 2016 12:57 PM (X6fMO)

532 Years are funny. My dad will be 94 tomorrow. When he was a kid, he talked to veterans of the Civil War.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 04, 2016 12:58 PM (xq1UY)

533 Joncelli ... I think you're right on this. For a while, I've thought
the US would simply default on the debt ... at least the part owned by
the US public via securities and the SocSec Trust Fund.

I think they'll do it in combination withba rollout of a Universal
Pension ... Just to give the peeps some hope of getting their money back
by willingly forking over even more ... for example, surrendering 401k
and IRA accounts.

My guess: it'll start with requiring a certain portion of IRA/401(k) holdings to be in government bonds "for safekeeping." Then they'll gradually ~~boil the frog~~ raise the portion, and thereby in the time expropriate everyone's savings (giving them worthless IOUs in their place) and use the expropriated funds to buy votes among the layabouts, of which we have a plethora that is rapidly growing.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 12:58 PM (oKE6c)

534 So the Simpsons are having Smithers "come out of the closet" and 'marry' some dude.

The shocking part to me is that the Simpsons are still on the air.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 12:58 PM (39g3+)

535 >>Is that a fact. Which part of it did he repudiate?

The part where he said he would let "all the good ones back in".

Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2016 12:58 PM (/tuJf)

536

I see the tits are not calm in here

Posted by: ThunderB at April 04, 2016 12:59 PM (zOTsN)

537 "I actually don't believe there's that much TDS here."

It's gone down, and Trump has been serving up genuine red meat lately.

But there was a time here when we had days of Trump being expressly compared to Hitler over the Michelle Fields thing at the same time Trump's campaign was literally being besieged by Soros-funded street activists, which some might find perverse.

Which is why the Michelle Fields jokes continue.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 04, 2016 12:59 PM (r1fLd)

538 "is she the matchmaker or the one being matched?"

After closer inspection, I can definitively state she already has a matched set.

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 04, 2016 12:59 PM (iIzG7)

539
Which is when the left discovered that they could make up any outrageous shit they wanted about a Republican and their idiot partisans would believe it. "Romney's going to outlaw tampons!"

And the left also discovered that the Republican wouldn't fight back because "that's not who we are."

Posted by: Jharles Chonson at April 04, 2016 12:59 PM (X6fMO)

540 Damn! Off, bike seat-sniffing sock.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2016 01:00 PM (X6fMO)

541 That, right there, whether one is a Trump, Cruz or (gaia forbid) a Kasich supporter, is the bottom line.The next president, no matter whom, is going to be served up the biggest, steamiest plate of shit any president has had to eat since Lincoln. And I would bet dollars to donuts that things on the domestic front are multitudes of times worse than what we know simply because of the administration's desperate attempt at building Potemkin villages.To return to fiscal sanity, global respect and Constitutional government means doing what has to be done while remaining completely deaf to the shrieks and propaganda of the enemy. The next president will have to ignore the MFMs nightly parade of "human wreckage stories" and the Democrat screams of "Hitler!" in order to ram the medicine down the country's throat.

Posted by: Jharles Chonson at April 04, 2016 12:57 PM (X6fMO)

This.

The second a Republican gets elected, the homeless will be out in division strength, and grim milestones will again be noted, and all other problems laid squarely on his doorstep. If there's a terrorist attack as he leaves his Inauguration, that's on him. Bastard.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 01:00 PM (oKE6c)

542 The Look? Innsmouth?

Posted by: Bigby's Fistful of Dice at April 04, 2016 01:00 PM (FDt8O)

543 Aside from Trump voters, Cruz voters have to be the most naive I have ever seen.

If Cruz somehow wins the nomination either with delegates or after a floor vote, and is the nominee, what happens next?

What happens is the mistresses that suddenly got quiet reappear, with actual names and dates and no chance of denial.

And, the Dems find a friendly Judge or three of five to litigate that old nugget you've conveniently forgotten - whether Ted Cruz is a natural born citizen. They don't have to win the case, just create enough FUD to confuse voters.

And that's just two strikes off the top of my head.

Posted by: Soulpatchtony at April 04, 2016 01:01 PM (m40v5)

544 I figure that Obama wants to be a deal maker.

To that end, I fully expect the DOJ to indict Hillary, after which, Obama will get the Democratic convention to run a Biden/Warren ticket.

Posted by: Barney Frank For-ks America at April 04, 2016 01:01 PM (e8kgV)

545 looking at the pictures they have the "look" of being Republican, you know that look I'm talking about.

***

Monocles, big fat cigars??

Hobo pelts?

Open carry .357 Magnum revolvers??

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 01:01 PM (NeFrd)

546 From day one Trump has said he will build a wall with a door.
Illegals get kicked out.
Can apply to come back in legally (the good ones).

The anti-Trumpers who believe that Trump hates all Mexicans thinks this will disgust his supporters coz they are supposedly all white racists.

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 01:01 PM (nbrY/)

547 I really don't think those attacks went anywhere, but yea, they'll make something up if they don't have anything.

Romney lost for a variety of reasons, but it wasn't because the
Democrats had successfully made him misogynist and animal abuser.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 12:55 PM (BILR
"Rich" "out of touch" etc. ring any bells?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 01:02 PM (oKE6c)

548 "the homeless will be out in division strength, and grim milestones will again be noted"

And unemployment will jump overnight, any good economic news will presented in a negative light, healthcare will be a disaster, etc.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 04, 2016 01:02 PM (LA7Cm)

549 What happens is the mistresses that suddenly got quiet reappear, with actual names and dates and no chance of denial.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at April 04, 2016 01:02 PM (rwI+c)

550 And how do you know the % of Dems on the Phoenix city council Mr. Pedant? They're non-partisan elections. For all you know it could be 100%.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo

I know several of the Republicans on the City Council. The ballot is non-partisan, but everyone knows who they are.

And many previous mayor's of Phoenix have been Republicans.

Mesa Arizona is another large city that has had Republican city councils and mayors off an on.

Your blanket statements mean shit (as usual)

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 01:03 PM (BILR8)

551 Posted by: redbanzai at April 04, 2016 12:57 PM (3JA/M)

The rules are voted on by the Delegates... they must accept the rules.

There are many accounts of Delegates from the States being elected as Trump Delegates by the GOP, who are NOT Trump supporters.

They will be forced to vote for him on the first ballot in most cases, BUT, can be used as votes to change the Rules...

IMO that 8 State rule is history.... it won't be operative come the votes...

Posted by: Don Quixote, picking up his lance at April 04, 2016 01:04 PM (qf6WZ)

552 Troll City here to day ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 04, 2016 01:04 PM (mw8Dm)

553 According to the rules in place now, if you do not have the support of the majority of delegates from 8 states when candidates are first put on the list

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They're going to Hillary those rules for the sake of fairness or diversity or for the children or whatever.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 01:05 PM (Nwg0u)

554 "Rich" "out of touch" etc. ring any bells?
Posted by: Jay Guevara

But those were largely true.

Had Romney had the same career path as say Scott Walker or Tim Pawlenty, he would have won.

The Mormon thing also hurt.

Had Romney been a garden-variety Protestant or Catholic I think he would have knocked off Obama.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 01:06 PM (BILR8)

555 They're going to Hillary those rules for the sake of fairness or diversity or for the children or whatever.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 01:05 PM (Nwg0u)
You left out the polar bears.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 01:06 PM (oKE6c)

556 FNC now pushing Ryan as the next nominee. The fix is in, people.

Posted by: Soona at April 04, 2016 01:06 PM (Fmupd)

557 Joncelli ... I think you're right on this. For a while, I've thought the US would simply default on the debt ... at least the part owned by the US public via securities and the SocSec Trust Fund.

I think they'll do it in combination withba rollout of a Universal Pension ... Just to give the peeps some hope of getting their money back by willingly forking over even more ... for example, surrendering 401k and IRA accounts.

They'll sell it like a annuity ... for every 1K you give up, they'll promise X per month in benefits. Of course, good luck collecting.
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 04, 2016 12:50 PM (W+w2W)

I used to laugh and laugh and point at ZeroHedge et al for claiming there would be 401(k) confiscation.

Now I'm shocked it hasn't happened yet.

It's going to be sold as "fairness". Universal pensions because defined benefits plans were eliminated by those awful business owners and it's Not Fair that the Rich People can play the stock market and via magic aka the Rule of 72 wind up as millionaires with all that tax free money!

After all, it's not fair that those people had access to investments, like a Simple IRA or just opening their own, that others didn't, not to mention that whole employer matching thingy.

Fairness demands that the playing field be leveled.

You know, like how the markets will be leveled as soon as voting on such a bill starts and everyone cashes out and takes the roughly 40% loss due to penalty and taxes for early withdrawal.

My WAG is that the bill will have a retroactive application date and any funds that were withdrawn prior to, oh, say, 60 days before the date of passage must be returned.

Tell me that's not a realistic scenario.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 04, 2016 01:07 PM (mf5HN)

558
According to the rules in place now
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"Now" is so yesterday.

Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 01:08 PM (pC96u)

559 Two Trump positives:

One: Even though he may not deal it with to my (or anyone's) satisfaction if elected, at LEAST he is aware there is a serious problem with uncontrolled illegal immigration to this country and the muz refujihadis are a significant part of it!

Two: Whether you like him personally or nor, he has forced our GOP overlords to take off their masks and declare their unswerving undying allegiance to themselves and the Establishment, and demonstrate their contempt for the country as a Constitutional Republic and a large number of their own potential voters.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 04, 2016 01:08 PM (wYnyS)

560 That Romney guy lost because he didn't pay his taxes. Oh, I know that was a lie but it worked. Ha ha ha ha.

Posted by: Harry Reid at April 04, 2016 01:08 PM (FkBIv)

561 looking at the pictures they have the "look" of being Republican, you know that look I'm talking about.

*****

Swastika tattoo on the forehead?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 01:09 PM (NeFrd)

562 FNC now pushing Ryan as the next nominee. The fix is in, people.

Posted by: Soona at April 04, 2016 01:06 PM (Fmupd)
____________________________

Okay,, but has he beaten up any defenseless female reporters? Asking for a friend....

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 04, 2016 01:10 PM (HSmrB)

563 Again last night TWD with the mega-stupid.

Driving around and around instead of going straight back home.

Then that is not the way to do a cliffhanger- that is sloppy writing.

(mildly spoilery)

You introduce Negan. He bashes someone's head in and then while everyone is at their lowest point, he takes some women hostage and sends Rick and the other non-headsmashed back with some of his boys to get supplies.

a complete defeat that lets us wonder how they can possibly get out of this quandary.

Boom- end credits.

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Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2016 01:10 PM (0cMkb)

564 My guess: it'll start with requiring a certain portion of IRA/401(k) holdings to be in government bonds "for safekeeping."

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That is a brilliant idea. Evil, but brilliant.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 01:10 PM (Nwg0u)

565
Hell.... just selling the land in the West would clear the debt...

Posted by: Don Quixote, picking up his lance at April 04, 2016 12:55 PM (qf6WZ)

You're right, but it would be a bad deal for the U.S. taxpayers to actually sell it right now. It's better to establish the quasi-governmental agency and sell assets gradually over a 100 year horizon, but to have access to part or all of the projected money now.

Concerning the next president being served a shit sandwich, it doesn't need to be that way.

Actually, the next president, if he's smart and thinks outside the box like a dealmaker, could have it better than any president in history.

The money to pay off the debt and rebuild the infrastructure is there. He can even pay off all mortgage and consumer debt if he wanted to give the whole country a fresh start.

He can cut government spend and increase services with his eyes closed. All it takes is someone applying common sense who isn't beholden to the status quo system.

The next president can be on Mt. Rushmore in 5 years easily.

Posted by: jwest at April 04, 2016 01:10 PM (Zs4uk)

566 401K accounts will be confiscated and replaced with gift cards to the company store.

Posted by: Harry Reid at April 04, 2016 01:11 PM (FkBIv)

567 Tell me that's not a realistic scenario.

Posted by: alexthechick

I think the more realistic scenario will be the government offers some sort of guaranteed rate of return like 5% if you convert your 401(k) to a government pension scheme.

With ZIRP for the foreseeable future, people will probably clamor for it.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 01:11 PM (BILR8)

568 If you stare at the shadow on the lute long enough, you can make out the man in the boat.

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at April 04, 2016 01:11 PM (ml1PM)

569 Romney lost for a variety of reasons, but it wasn't because the Democrats had successfully made him misogynist and animal abuser.

Yeah, he lost because he ran a campaign about doing it yourself, personal responsibility, rags to riches, etc. The culture doesn't want any part of that, they want goodies. He ran a great campaign, other than failing to attack Obama, it just didn't matter. The people who that campaign resonated with are far outnumbered by those with their hand out angry that the goodies aren't falling into it fast enough.

20 years earlier, Romney would have won a huge landslide. Today he couldn't get a big enough margin to beat the fraud.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 01:11 PM (39g3+)

570 Soulpatchtony: And that's just two strikes off the top of my head.

(You sure it was the top?)

And they'll talk about the video where young Cruz said he's in for world domination.

And how he's a lying liar because Trump said so.

And he's a one-term Senator who can only give good speeches but has never accomplished anything, just like the SCoaMF!

And how he's a pawn of Goldman Sachs because his wife is a Manchurian manipulator queen of diamonds (or was it hearts?). ♦? ♥?

And how he tortures bunny rabbits in his basement.

And how he's secretly a Muslim pretending to be a Christian.

Yeah, Cruz supporters, so naive not to see they should VOTE BERNIE because what else?

Posted by: mindful webworker - Cruz/Bridenstine 2016 at April 04, 2016 01:11 PM (I9SqL)

571 Romney lost for a variety of reasons, but it wasn't because the Democrats had successfully made him misogynist and animal abuser.

No, that was definitely part of it, at least for the folks I know that ended up voting against him.

For a few days after the "Binders full of women" thing happened it was all I would hear about from people at work.

It definitely worked.

Posted by: GMan at April 04, 2016 01:11 PM (sxq57)

572 Tell me that's not a realistic scenario.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 04, 2016 01:07 PM (mf5HN)

Dammit, that manual of IRS procedures was supposed to be unhackable on Hillary's secure server!

Posted by: Comrade IRS Commissioner Juan Koskinen at April 04, 2016 01:12 PM (wYnyS)

573 You do know Trump has already repudiated his "hardline" stance on immigration, right?

Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2016 12:55 PM (/tuJf)

Is that a fact. Which part of it did he repudiate?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 12:57 PM (xuouz)

All parts of it in some forum or another.

He walked back his opposition to increasing the number of H1B and H2B visas as the last debate, walked back his deportation rhetoric in several interviews and apparently walked back promises on the wall in an off the record interview with the NYT... which he is refusing to release so that we could see how bad that walk back was.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 04, 2016 01:12 PM (3JA/M)

574 "You're right, but it would be a bad deal for the U.S. taxpayers to actually sell it right now."

More importantly, some of us hold to the fact that it's nor rightly the Federal guv'mints property to begin with.

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 04, 2016 01:12 PM (iIzG7)

575 502 just watched the season finale of twd......damn i wonder who's dead
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 04, 2016 12:51 PM (0O7c5)

Ending it that way was a real dick move.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2016 01:12 PM (0mRoj)

576 let the hate run through you.

Posted by: ThunderB at April 04, 2016 01:13 PM (zOTsN)

577 576 let the hate run through you.

Posted by: ThunderB at April 04, 2016 01:13 PM (zOTsN)

Hate and coffee course through my veins.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2016 01:14 PM (0mRoj)

578 The "mistress" story about Cruz disappeared because Team Trump made it up and paid the Enquirer to push it. Once it didn't work, they dropped it.

There are reasons to dislike Cruz, but fake claims from Trump ain't one of them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2016 01:14 PM (/jecC)

579 20 years earlier, Romney would have won a huge landslide. Today he couldn't get a big enough margin to beat the fraud.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 01:11 PM (39g3+)

Romneycare surely didn't help his cause with conservatives who ended up not voting for him.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 04, 2016 01:14 PM (3JA/M)

580 >>For a few days after the "Binders full of women" thing happened it was all I would hear about from people at work.

>>It definitely worked.

Which just shows how stupid and easily led most Americans have become. Romney didn't run the best general election campaign but the idea that he is some sort of abusive guy toward women is just stupid. It sounds even more stupid coming from the Party that supports a rapist like Bill Clinton.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2016 01:14 PM (/tuJf)

581 Ending it that way was a real dick move.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2016 01:12 PM (0mRoj)

totally......now i'm going to be tormented.....i guess when the gossips leak who's contract didn't get renewed we'll know......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 04, 2016 01:14 PM (0O7c5)

582 No, that was definitely part of it, at least for the folks I know that ended up voting against him.

For a few days after the "Binders full of women" thing happened it was all I would hear about from people at work.

It definitely worked.
Posted by: GMan

You're definitely surrounded by some stupid people.

I think they would have been tricked regardless.

So you really think had Romney not used the phrase "binder" in that debate to discuss where their resumes were kept, he would have been President?

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 01:14 PM (BILR8)

583 Who painted this picture? Roy Orbison?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 01:14 PM (NeFrd)

584 The Mormon thing also hurt.

Had Romney been a garden-variety Protestant or Catholic I think he would have knocked off Obama.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 01:06 PM (BILR
The Mormon thing hurt, but I doubt very much indeed that his religion played a major role.

Romney was arguably out of touch, but more so than a sketchy Marxist half-breed who'd been raised as a Muslim in Indonesia, who ate a dog and smoked crack, who was bestest buddies with a bomb-planting Communist terrorist, who isn't sure how many states there are, and whose minister is a clearly unhinged raving lunatic (as long as we're talking about religion)?

Now THERE'S someone who's out of touch with mainstream America, methinks. Romney's problem was that he was too gentlemanly to fight back. He failed to take on board that he was in a knife fight in a dark alley; Marquis of Queensbury rules did not apply.

Remember the "War on Women" horseshit? They hung that around his neck. One thing I like about Trump (about whom I'm otherwise ambivalent) is that when Hillary tried the "War on Women" shit on him, he stuck it right up her ass, sideways, and as a consequence she's not brought it up again.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 01:15 PM (oKE6c)

585 455
"Anyone care to explain how the national debt is to get paid off in 8 years?"

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Why would we do that? What does "paying off the national debt" even means? There's always going to be national debt, just like any business always carries some payables and debt in their books.

"Paying off the national debt" is an imbecilic and economically illiterate red herring. What the federal government needs to do is to keep the federal debt below a certain level of the GDP - say 60%, even though the number is arbitrary to a point.

What the federal government needs to do is to balance the budget in order to reduce the debt as a GDP% to those values, not to "pay it off" - they're always paying it off, it's not like they're defaulting on it. If we keep the general government gross debt at the current $16 trillion, in a few decades that value will be meaningless because the economy will be much bigger - that amount will be a tiny percentage of the taxing base.

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On the other hand..... we've been monetizing our debt now for about six years.

The Fed holds most of those Treasuries. Just Like IOUs to yourself.

What could POSSIBLY go wrong.

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This is sheer ignorance. If we had been monetizing the debt for six years, we'd be Zimbabwe or Venezuela.

What is usually meant by debt monetization involves the central bank "buying" the debt directly to the government and then keeping it permanently, so allowing the government to spend money for "free". The Fed buys debt in the secondary market only and aren't letting the government default on it or keeping it permanently on their balance sheet.

It's just monetary policy. It's like it's always been done, for decades. The central bank buys bonds at the market price with "new money" when it wants to increase liquidity, hence push down the price of money, so easing monetary policy; and the inverse when it wants to tight monetary policy. That's actually what QE is - the quantitative easing methodology is how monetary policy is explained in Econ 101, the central bank buys and sells bonds and the mechanism starts from there. It just has a fancy name because central banks, for convenience, started taking a short cut (by influencing the interest rate directly).

Mixing up the central bank with the fiscal policy side of the government sounds intuitive but it's just bad, ignorant economics.

This idea, sadly increasingly popular, that one could have debt monetization of trillions of dollars going on for years without creating hyper-inflation is beyond stupid. It has that level of stupidity that is even difficult to wrap one's head around for people who understand these mechanisms.

It's a shame that the right is becoming as economically illiterate as the left.

People should read more Friedman and serious economists and less of illiterate conspiracy theorists who have never read an introductory textbook

Posted by: Alabi at April 04, 2016 01:15 PM (89I+i)

586
which he is refusing to release so that we could see how bad that walk back was.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 04, 2016 01:12 PM (3JA/M)
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I know what it's like when he refuses to release something....

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 04, 2016 01:15 PM (HSmrB)

587 Which is when the left discovered that they could make up any outrageous shit they wanted about a Republican and their idiot partisans would believe it. "Romney's going to outlaw tampons!"

Yeah but I don't think a single person who believed that crap was going to vote for Romney to begin with. It was just an excuse.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 01:15 PM (39g3+)

588 Bet there's bourbon in them jugs. *hic*

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at April 04, 2016 01:16 PM (vtcmf)

589 I know several of the Republicans on the City Council. The ballot is non-partisan, but everyone knows who they are.

And many previous mayor's of Phoenix have been Republicans.
Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 01:03 PM (BILR

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Oh you know a guy who knows a guy. Well that settles that.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 01:16 PM (0LHZx)

590 "Who painted this picture? Roy Orbison?"

Take special note the Roy Orbison, as a BLIND MAN, would have had to use Braille to picture the model. Consider that, my friends...

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 04, 2016 01:16 PM (iIzG7)

591 Hate and coffee course through my veins. Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2016 01:14 PM (0mRoj)Bile and Guinness in my case. **fist bump**

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2016 01:17 PM (X6fMO)

592
Team Rubio made up the mistress story

Team Rubio. Never forget that

Posted by: ThunderB at April 04, 2016 01:17 PM (zOTsN)

593 You're right, but it would be a bad deal for the U.S. taxpayers to actually sell it right now."

More importantly, some of us hold to the fact that it's nor rightly the Federal guv'mints property to begin with.

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And it would not make a difference unless we start balancing our budget. ObamaPho's gotta go and the mentality that created them has got to go.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 01:18 PM (Nwg0u)

594 nasty little fuck

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 04, 2016 01:18 PM (mw8Dm)

595 Tell me that's not a realistic scenario.

http://tinyurl.com/z255ee3

Posted by: Argentina at April 04, 2016 01:18 PM (DL2i+)

596 The Mormon thing hurt, but I doubt very much indeed that his religion played a major role.

Posted by: Jay Guevara

I just know I met people who said they didn't vote for him based on that.

I never met anyone that said it was because of the "binder" nonsense.

The war on women nonsense would have gone nowhere had Akin and Mourdoch not injected it into the national conversation.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 01:18 PM (BILR8)

597 Every time I think this thread is getting a tad flat I just glance back up at the pic.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 04, 2016 01:18 PM (mw8Dm)

598 Makes my want to buy a pair of My Pillows.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 04, 2016 01:19 PM (FkBIv)

599 (Yes, I know Roy Orbison wasn't really blind. Do you think he told that to the chicks? I sure don't.)

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 04, 2016 01:19 PM (iIzG7)

600
"And, the Dems find a friendly Judge or three of five to litigate
that old nugget you've conveniently forgotten - whether Ted Cruz is a
natural born citizen. They don't have to win the case, just create
enough FUD to confuse voters"

It's already gone to court twice this year, and it's already been tossed out twice very quickly, with no ill effect on Cruz. You don't know much about the legal establishment, even the dedicated liberals hate the birthers more than anyone else in the country, and so no judge will ever give this claim the time of day. Not even one who hates Cruz.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2016 01:19 PM (/jecC)

601 I pretty much always approve of boobie threads, but maybe not this one.

I think it scared away the Ewok because he's afraid of girls.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 04, 2016 01:19 PM (1xUj/)

602 I used to have a figure like that. Before electricity.

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at April 04, 2016 01:19 PM (vtcmf)

603 You're definitely surrounded by some stupid people.

They're called "the electorate."

It's why producing charts and graphs and position papers is a waste of time. At this fulminant stage of Idiocracy, you need to dumb down your message and fight hard, dirty, and incessantly to have any chance. I don't say that with pleasure, but from a realistic (I believe) assessment of the current situation.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 01:20 PM (oKE6c)

604 I don't think Roy Orbison was blind. He just wore funky glasses.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 01:20 PM (NeFrd)

605
Interesting twitter feed. He reports on all the US terrorism cases, many that I have never heard of before:

https://twitter.com/SeamusHughes

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 01:20 PM (iQIUe)

606 I think the more realistic scenario will be the government offers some sort of guaranteed rate of return like 5% if you convert your 401(k) to a government pension scheme.

With ZIRP for the foreseeable future, people will probably clamor for it.
Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 01:11 PM (BILR

That's the nose under the tent.

Then the X % must be in Treasuries for security.

Then all out confiscation. Because Fair.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 04, 2016 01:21 PM (mf5HN)

607

GOPe and Team Rubio came up with the mistress story and had been shopping it to all publications for months

Posted by: ThunderB at April 04, 2016 01:21 PM (zOTsN)

608 "Anyone care to explain how the national debt is to get paid off in 8 years?"

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231295

Posted by: DaveA at April 04, 2016 01:22 PM (DL2i+)

609 Take special note the Roy Orbison, as a BLIND MAN,
would have had to use Braille to picture the model. Consider that, my
friends...

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 04, 2016 01:16 PM (iIzG7)

he wasn't blind

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 04, 2016 01:22 PM (0O7c5)

610 "At this fulminant stage of Idiocracy, you need to dumb down your message
and fight hard, dirty, and incessantly to have any chance."

We need to make sure everyone knows that Bernie wants to take away their Brawndo. Bernie says we don't need nineteen different drinks on the grocery store shelves.

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 04, 2016 01:22 PM (iIzG7)

611 If we had been monetizing the debt for six years, we'd be Zimbabwe or Venezuela.

-
We couldn't do that! It'd be cultural appropriation!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 01:23 PM (Nwg0u)

612 I'm changing my nick

Posted by: Roy Orbinson, blind boobie artist at April 04, 2016 01:23 PM (NeFrd)

613 I just know I met people who said they didn't vote for him based on that.

I never met anyone that said it was because of the "binder" nonsense.

The war on women nonsense would have gone nowhere had Akin and Mourdoch not injected it into the national conversation.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 01:18 PM (BILR
But they did, and it did. Romney didn't say it, but he paid the price for it. And if hadn't been that, it would have been something else.

Now contrast that with Obongo's background. Targets of opportunity abounded, as outlined above. If we were half as ruthless as the Reds, Obongo would've been laughed off the national stage, as he should be.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 01:23 PM (oKE6c)

614 One of the grand myths of the 2012 election was that Romney caused a ton of people to stay home over his religion and so on. There's zero evidence of that. I've seen analysis after analysis that shows that no more people avoided voting for Romney than any other previous GOP candidate. He was up against a changed culture with an old fashioned campaign, and an established Democrat fraud machine.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 01:23 PM (39g3+)

615 If we had been monetizing the debt for six years, we'd be Zimbabwe or Venezuela.

-
We couldn't do that! It'd be cultural appropriation!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 01:23 PM (Nwg0u)

Okay that right there is funny.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 04, 2016 01:23 PM (mf5HN)

616 Team Rubio made up the mistress story

Team Rubio. Never forget that

Posted by: ThunderB at April 04, 2016 01:17 PM (zOTsN)

True... but it wasn't pushed in the media (well NE) until Trump thought it would be helpful and it wasn't pushed on blogs by anyone but Trump supporters.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 04, 2016 01:24 PM (3JA/M)

617 Phoenixgirl at 609 and Seamus at 604 -- see #599. I'm with you.

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 04, 2016 01:24 PM (iIzG7)

618 "[Romney] ran a great campaign,"

Fuck no. Worth getting into because the GOPe wants to make the same mistake again.

Romney was a bad choice as the nominee who then ran an OK campaign for about a month and then got his clock cleaned at the end. At the core his problem was that he didn't understand the electorate, so that not enough dogs would eat the dog food he was peddling.

The biggest voting cohort out there is white non-college and neither party wants them. They don't ask for that much, mostly not to get pissed on. In 2012 they natively understood that Romney didn't give a rat's ass about them, and so stayed home.

My sense is that many posters here kinda now realize this but haven't coherently figured out the implications.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 04, 2016 01:24 PM (r1fLd)

619
Now giving Valurite a run for its money, Ruby Horse Finest Old Whisky produced in Homs.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 01:24 PM (iQIUe)

620 That's the nose under the tent.

Then the X % must be in Treasuries for security.

Then all out confiscation. Because Fair.
Posted by: alexthechick

Of course, but that's how it will be sold, it won't be a mass confiscation, you take away a huge swath of people's life savings in one fell swoop and you really would have a government overthrow.

It will be some sort of Savings Bond Annuity type product.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 01:25 PM (BILR8)

621 That painter is Dutch so the boobies are named Linksi and Rakker.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 04, 2016 01:25 PM (1xUj/)

622 my new music obsession is the struts.....they opened for the killers last night....omg..........met the band afterward.....adorable boys from derby.....glam/funk at it's finest.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 04, 2016 01:26 PM (0O7c5)

623 This painting is a metaphor of the current GOP race. You try to squeeze blue collar populists in the same tent with open borders free marketers and they both come popping out.

Posted by: Global Warming made Bernie a commie at April 04, 2016 01:26 PM (FFIoe)

624 An Annuity ? No shit ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 04, 2016 01:26 PM (W+w2W)

625 @ 618
Romney was a bad choice as the nominee who then ran an OK campaign for about a month and then got his clock cleaned at the end. At the core his problem was that he didn't understand the electorate, so that not enough dogs would eat the dog food he was peddling.
Posted by: Ignoramus
________________

At least Romney was peddling dog food. His opponent eats dogs.

Posted by: Furious George at April 04, 2016 01:27 PM (3GAnN)

626 It's really hard to be in the middle on Trump. I think the reasonable ground is, "Trump's dude pushed her aside. Both sides blew it out of proportion. Trump should have apologized and given her a one-on-one interview to make up for it."

Trump does not have to apologize to a drama-seeking "reporter" acting in bad faith. He didn't even do anything to her.

Corey is the one who touched her, and he shouldn't apologize either. The press conference was over and her having tits does not give her a right to move past Trump's SS detail to get close to him.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 04, 2016 01:27 PM (1D4Ef)

627 Oh, no, it's okay ma'am. I'm blind.

Really.

Just conducting auditions for blind boob painting models. Pay no attention.

(heh, heh)

Posted by: Roy Orbinson, blind boobie artist at April 04, 2016 01:27 PM (NeFrd)

628 Give me liberty, or give me . . . Those boobies!

Posted by: Patrick Henry at April 04, 2016 01:27 PM (CcMhk)

629 Binders full of funbags.

Posted by: Ready For Mitt!!11!! at April 04, 2016 01:27 PM (vtcmf)

630 >>The biggest voting cohort out there is white non-college and neither party wants them. They don't ask for that much, mostly not to get pissed on. In 2012 they natively understood that Romney didn't give a rat's ass about them, and so stayed home.

Because they natively understood that the Democrat Party that has been fucking them over for the last 50 years was all about them. As I said, our biggest problem is that a huge part of our electorate is stupid and easily led, particularly with promises of free shit.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2016 01:27 PM (/tuJf)

631 Posted by: Ignoramus at April 04, 2016 01:24 PM (r1fLd)

But why would we want to associate ourselves with "those" people? We're better than that, after all. We're Republicans, and our whitebread roots go deep. Honestly.....
sarc/

Posted by: kraken at April 04, 2016 01:28 PM (sdxPm)

632
I used to laugh and laugh and point at ZeroHedge et al for claiming there would be 401(k) confiscation.

Now I'm shocked it hasn't happened yet.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 04, 2016 01:07 PM (mf5HN)

---

Of course you are. And you'll still be in 10 years. Or you'll have forgotten about it by then and have found another crazy conspiracy theory to "shock you".

...

Joncelli ... I think you're right on this. For a while, I've thought
the US would simply default on the debt ... at least the part owned by
the US public via securities and the SocSec Trust Fund.

�
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 04, 2016 12:50 PM (W+w2W ...There would be no point in defaulting, in such scenario they'd simply inflate.
There's only one thing that should concern people with regards to a sovereign debt crisis: entitlements, firstly Medicare and then Social Security.
At the end of the day though, as the multiple European examples have showed, advanced economies have far more incentives to do last minute reforms by cutting benefits and raising taxes than actually defaulting or resorting to hyper-inflation.
Sooner or later, Medicare and Social Security will be the subject of cuts, possibly along tax increases. The sooner we reform them, the less severe those cuts will need to be.

Posted by: Alabi at April 04, 2016 01:29 PM (89I+i)

633 Hmmm, nice loft, nice heft, nice jiggliness.

**writes in notebook**

**snaps boob selfie**

**writes more in notebook, sketches picture**

It's okay lady, I'm writing in Braille.

Posted by: Roy Orbinson, blind boobie artist at April 04, 2016 01:29 PM (NeFrd)

634 Of course, but that's how it will be sold, it won't
be a mass confiscation, you take away a huge swath of people's life
savings in one fell swoop and you really would have a government
overthrow.

It will be some sort of Savings Bond Annuity type product.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 01:25 PM (BILR
Yep. It's why CA Dems fucking HATE Prop. 13: it limits their ability to raise property taxes, their favored method of targeting the bourgeoisie to get the money to buy votes from the economically/ intellectually disenfranchised. What other tax so directly hits the middle class? (I know renters indirectly also pay property tax, but most of them are too stupid to figure that out.)

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 01:29 PM (oKE6c)

635 President Bush caught the Palis trying to smuggle illegal weapons and cut off all contact with them and gave Sharon permission to isolate Arafat

Fredo catches Iran smuggling illegal weapons and...........?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 04, 2016 01:29 PM (mw8Dm)

636 Ask not what boobies can do for you .

Ask what you can do for your boobies.

Posted by: John F. Kennedy at April 04, 2016 01:30 PM (CcMhk)

637 "Anyone care to explain how the national debt is to get paid off in 8 years?"

1. Wait until Jane Fonda kicks the bucket.
2. Install pay toilets on her place of interment.

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at April 04, 2016 01:30 PM (ml1PM)

638 Great, I can't even spell my sock name right!

Posted by: Roy Orbinson, blind boobie artist at April 04, 2016 01:30 PM (NeFrd)

639 I blame the electorate far more than I blame Romney.

Posted by: wheeler at April 04, 2016 01:30 PM (BILR8)

640
The biggest voting cohort out there is white non-college and neither party wants them. They don't ask for that much, mostly not to get pissed on. In 2012 they natively understood that Romney didn't give a rat's ass about them
----------------------------

What did Romney give a rat's ass about? Does anyone know?

Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 01:31 PM (pC96u)

641 There. Fixt.

Posted by: Roy Orbison, blind boobie artist at April 04, 2016 01:31 PM (NeFrd)

642 "Fredo catches Iran smuggling illegal weapons and...........?"

... and gives Iran billions of American taxpayer dollars and a clean road to building nukes.

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 04, 2016 01:31 PM (iIzG7)

643 On Thursday, the President will return to the University of Chicago Law School - where he taught constitutional law for over a decade - to meet with law students and faculty, for a conversation about the Supreme Court and our country's judicial system.

Yep, sure he did.

Any students ever come forward?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 04, 2016 01:31 PM (mEZce)

644 584---Remember the "War on Women" horseshit? They hung that around his neck. One thing I like about Trump (about whom I'm otherwise ambivalent) is that when Hillary tried the "War on Women" shit on him, he stuck it right up her ass, sideways, and as a consequence she's not brought it up again.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 01:15 PM (oKE6c)
-----------------
Oh yeah, he put a stop to that meme all right!

You can tell by the 70%+ high-negatives Trump is running with female voters in poll after poll.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 04, 2016 01:33 PM (T/5A0)

645 643 On Thursday, the President will return to the University of Chicago Law School - where he taught constitutional law for over a decade - to meet with law students and faculty, for a conversation about the Supreme Court and our country's judicial system.
Yep, sure he did.

Any students ever come forward?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 04, 2016 01:31 PM (mEZce)

God, how I hate the MSM. The asshole did not "teach Constitutional law;" he gave a few lectures on how to game the Constitution to cadge bennies for the melanin-enhanced. I've read the syllabus of his lectures, and it boils down to two words: "disparate impact."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 01:33 PM (oKE6c)

646 FINALLY finished my post on TWD

Please check it out
Link in nic

Posted by: @votermom at April 04, 2016 01:33 PM (nbrY/)

647
Yep, sure he did.
Any students ever come forward?
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA

He taught me everything I know.

Posted by: Merrick Garland at April 04, 2016 01:33 PM (FkBIv)

648
As I said, our biggest problem is that a huge part of our electorate is stupid and easily led, particularly with promises of free shit.

And when Romney timidly pointed that out with his "47%" remark, he folded faster than The Flash on laundry day when the MFM trumpeted it. The stupid SOB should have doubled down and called out the parasites for what they are.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2016 01:34 PM (X6fMO)

649 I'm having a real problem with the polls.

It seems both Hillary and Trump have a problem with the women's vote.

Posted by: Anne Frank For-ks America at April 04, 2016 01:34 PM (e8kgV)

650 Team Rubio made up the mistress story

Team Rubio. Never forget that

Posted by: ThunderB at April 04, 2016 01:17 PM (zOTsN)

True... but it wasn't pushed in the media (well NE) until Trump thought it would be helpful and it wasn't pushed on blogs by anyone but Trump supporters.
Posted by: redbanzai

Rubio and GOPe shopped it to the NYT and the WaPo

excuse me that is even worse. Trumps people were just cribbing their homework. They only knew about it because Rubio and his GOPe fanbois were pushing the story to everyone they knew

this is their handiwork. this is who you defend

Posted by: ThunderB at April 04, 2016 01:35 PM (zOTsN)

651 So ... Who's the charming new guy extolling the virtues of our current debt level ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 04, 2016 01:35 PM (W+w2W)

652 Oh yeah, he put a stop to that meme all right!

You can tell by the 70%+ high-negatives Trump is running with female voters in poll after poll.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 04, 2016 01:33 PM (T/5A0)
I suspect that that's a self-inflicted wound deriving his idiotic comments regarding various specific women, rather than the result of Red "War on Women" agitprop.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 01:35 PM (oKE6c)

653 Anniversary of MLK assassination today.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 04, 2016 01:35 PM (CcMhk)

654 "What did Romney give a rat's ass about? Does anyone know?"

Exactly. And the GOPe still doesn't know.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 04, 2016 01:35 PM (r1fLd)

655 Going to be hard to win anything unless some appeal that works is made to that "47%".

Posted by: kraken at April 04, 2016 01:36 PM (sdxPm)

656
On Thursday, the President will return to the University of Chicago Law
School - where he taught constitutional law for over a decade - to meet
with law students and faculty, for a conversation about the Supreme
Court and our country's judicial system.

Yep, sure he did.

Any students ever come forward?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA>>>

Is the photo of Obama at a chalkboard now a microagression?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hdarbc3

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 04, 2016 01:36 PM (P/aDH)

657 In a sane America we'd be shooting the 2 beardsleyMcTurbans (pictured on Fox) being unGitmo'd by TFG just for being too fugly to live.

Posted by: DaveA at April 04, 2016 01:36 PM (DL2i+)

658 All parts of it in some forum or another.
He walked back his opposition to increasing the number of H1B and H2B visas as the last debate, walked back his deportation rhetoric in several interviews and apparently walked back promises on the wall in an off the record interview with the NYT... which he is refusing to release so that we could see how bad that walk back was.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 04, 2016 01:12 PM (3JA/M)

rb first of all, visa issues are separate from enforcing the border and amenstying people already living here. That said, you're still wrong on substance. He misunderstood the question on visas and issued a statement clarifying after the debate.
bit.ly/1Xcz24m

What aspects of his deportation rhetoric did he walk back? In what interview did he do this? Also, isn't the smart line here at the HQ that enforcing the law on employers cause self-deportation? And if we have a strong border that prevents those people from re-entering that solves the problem all on its own? Even assuming you're 100% correct and he won't deport ANYONE, isn't this superior to amnesty, and certainly to the situation as it stands?

And you're simply assuming he said whatever you most don't want him to have said in that off the record interview. You know what 'assume' does. This is inadmissable rhetoric. Sorrayyyyy.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 01:36 PM (xuouz)

659 re: Fields fiasco. Trump already admitted they should have apologized. Claiming it wouldn't have made a difference is nonsense, since it would have made a difference politically, since it's his need to always double down when women are involved is what hurt him so much with voters.

The Lewandsosky supporters need to be transitioning to the next Trump line, which is gonna be "Who? that's just some minor operative, I hardly knew the guy."

That'll be just before Lewandosky resigns and cops a plea for community service. Give it till summer. He's gonna learn how Trump "stands by" his embarrassing friends.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2016 01:36 PM (/jecC)

660 And when Romney timidly pointed that out with his "47%" remark, he folded faster than The Flash on laundry day when the MFM trumpeted it. The stupid SOB should have doubled down and called out the parasites for what they are.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2016 01:34 PM (X6fMO)

I don't think he was stupid, just too gentlemanly to throw elbows under the basket, which is what he needed to do. Just as he needed to do with Candy "Fat Ass" Crowley when she blatantly colluded with our Dusky Messiah in the debate.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 01:37 PM (oKE6c)

661 700 comments in and I am just now noticing that the breast girl has sort of a Cyrano de Bergerac nose.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 01:37 PM (NeFrd)

662 True... but it wasn't pushed in the media (well NE) until Trump thought it would be helpful and it wasn't pushed on blogs by anyone but Trump supporters.

Was by Rubio drive-bys that I saw. That was a GOPe joint, Trump just picked it up for about a day when he thought it might help, then dumped it.

and so stayed home.

If all the groups that people claimed "stayed home" in 2012, Romney would have gotten like 82 total votes.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 01:37 PM (39g3+)

663 >>And when Romney timidly pointed that out with his "47%" remark, he folded faster than The Flash on laundry day when the MFM trumpeted it. The stupid SOB should have doubled down and called out the parasites for what they are.

Why? You think that would have made the 47% rush to support Romney the way women are rushing to support Trump? Good luck with that one.

As many have noted, politics is downstream from culture. Our best hope for winning the Presidency is having the Dems fuck up and nominate a socialist or better, a felon. Other than that the odds of us winning are slim.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2016 01:37 PM (/tuJf)

664 Known Islamophobe turns down an offer to participate in the planned inauguration of a Turkish-funded
mosque in Maryland.

Posted by: Bureau of Land Management at April 04, 2016 01:38 PM (e8kgV)

665 He's gonna learn how Trump "stands by" his embarrassing friends.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2016 01:36 PM (/jecC)

"Standing by" embarrassing friends is over-rated.

Posted by: Zombie Dick Nixon at April 04, 2016 01:38 PM (oKE6c)

666 Anniversary of MLK assassination today.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 04, 2016 01:35 PM (CcMhk)

Or as it is sometimes referred to: Jessie Jacksons big Day

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 04, 2016 01:38 PM (mw8Dm)

667 578 The "mistress" story about Cruz disappeared because Team Trump made it up and paid the Enquirer to push it. Once it didn't work, they dropped it.

There are reasons to dislike Cruz, but fake claims from Trump ain't one of them.

So if Cruz is the nominee you guarantee the mistresses crap (and don't forget "Candy Wrapper") never come back to haunt him at all because the Dems play fair - comforting to note.

And, someone else made fun of the "Dominionist" stuff on Cruz - like we wouldn't hear about that 24/7 and the anti-gay stuff if he were the nominee. The MSM would take a microscope to all the religious types (nuts or otherwise) that ever supported Cruz and tie them to him.

In any case, I still haven't seen the scenario where Cruz gets the nom - barring Trump dropping dead. The GOPe doesn't want him and will drop him in favor of Ryan in a contested convention.

Posted by: Soulpatchtony at April 04, 2016 01:38 PM (m40v5)

668 Known Christianophobe turns down an offer to participate in the planned inauguration of a Turkish-funded
mosque in Maryland.

Posted by: Bureau of Land Management at April 04, 2016 01:39 PM (e8kgV)

669 The Lewandsosky supporters need to be transitioning to the next Trump line, which is gonna be "Who? that's just some minor operative, I hardly knew the guy."
That'll be just before Lewandosky resigns and cops a plea for community service. Give it till summer. He's gonna learn how Trump "stands by" his embarrassing friends.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2016 01:36 PM (/jecC)

lol! Whatever dude.

bit.ly/1PQCpYD

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 01:39 PM (xuouz)

670 Posted by: Soulpatchtony at April 04, 2016 01:38 PM (m40v5)

You have Tourette's? You keep repeating yourself?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 04, 2016 01:40 PM (mw8Dm)

671 Lewandoski is Trump's version of Huma Abedin.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 04, 2016 01:40 PM (CcMhk)

672 Anybody need an emetic?

Huma Abedin spoke about meeting Hillary Clinton for the first time in a new interview, where she also revealed her fears over the State Department's release of the Democratic front-runner's emails from her time as Secretary of State.

'You know these things that happen in your life that just stick? She walked by and she shook my hand and our eyes connected and I just remember having this moment where I thought; "Wow, this is amazing,"' said Abedin.

'And it just inspired me. You know, I still remember the look on her face. And it's funny, and she would probably be so annoyed that I say this, but I remember thinking; "Oh my God, she's so beautiful and she's so little!"'

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 01:40 PM (Nwg0u)

673 The "mistress" story about Cruz disappeared because Team Trump made it up and paid the Enquirer to push it. Once it didn't work, they dropped it.

There are reasons to dislike Cruz, but fake claims from Trump ain't one of them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2016 01:14 PM (/jecC)

You are a clown. Trump had nothing to do with it, it was shopped by Rubio people, and he has refrained from commenting on it AT ALL.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 01:40 PM (xuouz)

674
Why? You think that would have made the 47% rush to support Romney the way women are rushing to support Trump? Good luck with that one.

It wasn't about support from them. He was right, they'd never vote for him. Ever. It was about standing up and saying "and F you" to the people that would not, and being the voice of the other 53%.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 01:41 PM (39g3+)

675 671
Lewandoski is Trump's version of Huma Abedin.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 04, 2016 01:40 PM (CcMhk)
trump is ghey for corey?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 04, 2016 01:41 PM (0O7c5)

676 >>Interesting twitter feed. He reports on all the US terrorism cases, many that I have never heard of before:
https://twitter.com/SeamusHughes

Interesting link - thanks!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 04, 2016 01:42 PM (NOIQH)

677 >>'You know these things that happen in your life that just stick? She walked by and she shook my hand and our eyes connected and I just remember having this moment where I thought; "Wow, this is amazing,"' said Abedin.

'And it just inspired me. You know, I still remember the look on her face. And it's funny, and she would probably be so annoyed that I say this, but I remember thinking; "Oh my God, she's so beautiful and she's so little!"'
--------------------------

My pheromones are amazing.

Posted by: Hillary at April 04, 2016 01:42 PM (c7vUv)

678 'You know these things that happen in your life that just stick? She
walked by and she shook my hand and our eyes connected and I just
remember having this moment where I thought; "Wow, this is amazing,"'
said Abedin.

Strangers whose eyes meet across a smoky room ... the electricity crackles...

"You know, I still remember the look on her face...

... which was framed by her thighs, when I came up for air ..."

Posted by: Zombie Dick Nixon at April 04, 2016 01:43 PM (oKE6c)

679 Rush is reporting there will be a pro-gay-marriage plank in the R platform.

(my take) Apparently all the big donors are gay.

Posted by: rush listener at April 04, 2016 01:43 PM (HSAmh)

680 Anniversary of MLK assassination today.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 04, 2016 01:35 PM (CcMhk)

Or as it is sometimes referred to: Jessie Jacksons big Day

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So it's bloody shirt wearing day.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 01:43 PM (Nwg0u)

681 Yet another reason to pray for SMOD

http://www.ufunk.net/design/thigh-gap-jewellery/

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 04, 2016 01:43 PM (nPrGV)

682 >>Lewandoski is Trump's version of Huma Abedin.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot

We DO NOT scissor.

Posted by: The Donald at April 04, 2016 01:44 PM (c7vUv)

683 Trump made a bad unforced error getting into abortion when he didn't need to.

But on his website Cruz used to say that Congress can end run Roe by enacting a law to declare a fetus to be a person. It's no longer there, but I know I saw it. That's what the wayback machine is for.

Were he the nominee, the Emily's list crowd will hang Cruz on this position. It'll also get Cruz borked if he ever goes for SCOTUS.

And he's also Canadian....

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 04, 2016 01:44 PM (r1fLd)

684 Hillary = Montgomery Burns

Huma = Smithers

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 01:44 PM (NeFrd)

685 >>It wasn't about support from them. He was right, they'd never vote for him. Ever. It was about standing up and saying "and F you" to the people that would not, and being the voice of the other 53%.

Of course he was right. He was right about Russia. He was right about terrorism. He was right about nearly everything in the election and Obama was wrong.

Doesn't mean much these days in our Khardasian culture. We want to start winning big again we need stop this micro aggressive SJW culture that is taking over everything and replacing reason with feelings.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 04, 2016 01:44 PM (/tuJf)

686 There haven't been any calm tits here since before Christmas of 2015.

Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at April 04, 2016 01:44 PM (v9gSJ)

687 Rush also said (by implication) that women will vote for Trump over Hillary. That her negatives are higher.

Posted by: rush listener at April 04, 2016 01:44 PM (HSAmh)

688 >> "she's so beautiful and she's so little!"'

Isn't that the National anthem of Alextopia?

Posted by: garrett at April 04, 2016 01:45 PM (leBig)

689 I still haven't seen the scenario where Cruz gets the nom - barring Trump dropping dead.

That's nonsense, you have seen the scenario, its just a really unlikely one to the point of absurdity. He can do it, it just is about as likely as Obama ordering the arrest of Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 01:45 PM (39g3+)

690 So it's bloody shirt wearing day.

****

"BRING ME MY BROWN PANTS!!"

/J. Jackson

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 04, 2016 01:46 PM (NeFrd)

691 Rush also said it was all about job security. All the R establishment trashing Trump are afraid of losing their cushy jobs.

Posted by: rush listener at April 04, 2016 01:46 PM (HSAmh)

692 I'm old enough to remember when Paul Ryan was the most extreme extremist that ever extremed for suggesting that we solve 40% of the deficit (not debt) problem over the next 30 years.

EXTREME!!!

Now supposedly he is the moderate guy that the world will love.

Yeah, right.

Plus he got plunked by Joe Biden in debate. Joe. Biden.

Posted by: blaster at April 04, 2016 01:47 PM (2Ocf1)

693 http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/
uploads/2016/04/funny-19.jpg

Somebody get one for ace.

Posted by: DaveA at April 04, 2016 01:47 PM (DL2i+)

694 677 >>'You know these things that happen in your life that just stick? She walked by and she shook my hand and our eyes connected and I just remember having this moment where I thought; "Wow, this is amazing,"' said Abedin.

'And it just inspired me. You know, I still remember the look on her face. And it's funny, and she would probably be so annoyed that I say this, but I remember thinking; "Oh my God, she's so beautiful and she's so little!"'
--------------------------

My pheromones are amazing.
Posted by: Hillary at April 04, 2016 01:42 PM (c7vUv)

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Looks like I'll be skipping lunch...

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 04, 2016 01:47 PM (rlfds)

695 Orbison wore dark glasses because he was slightly cross-eyed.
In some pre-glasses publicity shots for Sun Records, you can kind of see it.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 04, 2016 01:48 PM (AroJD)

696
'You know these things that happen in your life that just stick? She walked by and she shook my hand and our eyes connected and I just remember having this moment where I thought; "Wow, this is amazing,"' said Abedin.
--------------------------

That is the prelude to betrayal.

Now we know: it's going to be an opera.

Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 01:48 PM (pC96u)

697 >>But on his website Cruz used to say that Congress can end run Roe by enacting a law to declare a fetus to be a person. It's no longer there, but I know I saw it. That's what the wayback machine is for.

More than a few States have laws that include the fetus in as an additional charge (if the mother is killed in an accident or hommicide).
It would be incongruous under the law to assert that in one case, 'person' in another, 'clump of cells'.

Posted by: garrett at April 04, 2016 01:48 PM (leBig)

698
trump is ghey for corey?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 04, 2016 01:41 PM (0O7c5)
_________________________

I'm pretty sure that I'm the one that got fucked that day...

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 04, 2016 01:50 PM (HSmrB)

699 Trump made a bad unforced error getting into abortion when he didn't need to.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 04, 2016 01:44 PM (r1fLd)

He was hectored into answering the question by Chris Matthews. He badgered him on it, in his Chris Matthews style, and actually flustered him to the point where Trump went off script and committed to a position.

What everyone conveniently forgets is it was an IF scenario. IF abortion were legal, what would you have done?

Uh, he'd enforce the law by punishing lawbreakers.

But he was forced to give this answer, and if he hadn't, ace and Will Saletan and Chris Matthews and the other anti-Trump people would be killing him on dodging the question.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 01:50 PM (xuouz)

700 696
'You know these things that happen in your life that just stick? She walked by and she shook my hand and our eyes connected and I just remember having this moment where I thought; "Wow, this is amazing,"' said Abedin.
--------------------------

That is the prelude to betrayal.

Now we know: it's going to be an opera.
Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 01:48 PM (pC96u)

How do you say "scissor" in Italian? How about "sweaty thighs"?

Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at April 04, 2016 01:50 PM (v9gSJ)

701 Rubio and GOPe shopped it to the NYT and the WaPo

excuse me that is even worse. Trumps people were just cribbing
their homework. They only knew about it because Rubio and his GOPe
fanbois were pushing the story to everyone they knew

this is their handiwork. this is who you defend

Posted by: ThunderB at April 04, 2016 01:35 PM (zOTsN)

I am not defending Rubio or the GOPe at all. I know who shopped what to whom. You will notice that the story was so blatantly and obviously unsupported by evidence that the NYT and WaPo refused to touch it. Even the NE ran it (likely for Trump) in such a way that they were just reporting that there were reports so that no one could sue them.
Pointing out that this "story" didn't run until it would benefit Trump does not mean I am ignoring the origins of the story.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 04, 2016 01:50 PM (3JA/M)

702
Why? You think that would have made the 47% rush to support Romney the way women are rushing to support Trump? Good luck with that one.

Perhaps if Romney had countered the lying nickelfuckers in the MFM / DNC (BIRM) who made that 47% number sound as if Rich Uncle Pennybags was talking about Joe Sixpack and the government bennies he's getting to help feed his family during the Great Bush Depression and pointed out that he was really talking about a certain demographic who thinks EBT cards are due them solely by their melanin composition,* he might have fared better. For fuck's sake, if you're going to lose at least go down fighting.

*I am reminded of the Massachusetts case of Claribel Ventura, who, a number of years ago, was found not only to be a welfare cheat, but to be part of a family that had for three generations done nothing but suck off the public tit. And when Boston Herald reporters asked if she had anything to say to explain herself to the taxpayers of Massachusetts, the bitch sneered, "Tell them to keep working!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2016 01:50 PM (X6fMO)

703 http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/
uploads/2016/04/funny-41.jpg

back to the subject

Posted by: DaveA at April 04, 2016 01:51 PM (DL2i+)

704 614 One of the grand myths of the 2012 election was that Romney caused a ton of people to stay home over his religion and so on. There's zero evidence of that. I've seen analysis after analysis that shows that no more people avoided voting for Romney than any other previous GOP candidate. He was up against a changed culture with an old fashioned campaign, and an established Democrat fraud machine.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 01:23 PM (39g3+)

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Romney got more votes than McCain yet somehow 5 million Republicans stayed home in 2012.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 01:51 PM (0LHZx)

705 Boy oh boy, I'd like to micoaggress her safe space.

Posted by: CrustyB at April 04, 2016 01:51 PM (GvSpB)

706 Doesn't mean much these days in our Khardasian culture. We want to start winning big again we need stop this micro aggressive SJW culture that is taking over everything and replacing reason with feelings.

This is correct. All these people saying "he ran a bad campaign!" and "this group stayed home!" don't get it. It wasn't about turnout. It was about culture, and he was on the wrong end of it. He ran a campaign that would have won gigantic in the 80s, but loses in the modern culture.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 01:51 PM (39g3+)

707 @Tom Servo

So you have faith in the Dems hating the birther stuff so much they won't touch it when it can help them win an election. News Flash, the Dems do whatever, whichever way to win - period - which is why they win. They make shit up, they lie, they manipulate, the MSM has their back.

Cruz is the nominee and "concern face" Scott Pelley suddenly leads the news with "doubts" about whether Cruz is eligible. Get Real and get realistic - the fanboy stuff on all sides is irritating. Game out your candidates flaws and all to find a way to win.

Posted by: Soulpatchtony at April 04, 2016 01:51 PM (m40v5)

708 Lewandoski is Trump's version of Huma Abedin.

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Except he's not gay, his family isnt a sworn enemy of the United States of America, he doesnt sleep in Trumps room with him, and his spouse doesnt tweet out pictures of her junk.....

..... other than that... yeah.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 04, 2016 01:51 PM (8XRCm)

709 I had an interesting talk with some hardcore Trump supporters over the weekend.

They are all conservatives and Republican voters.

Do you know why they support Trump so strongly?

And not Cruz? (They al think Kasich is a horse's patoot)

It's probably not what you think.

Go ahead and guess.

I'll wait.

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Okay. And this surprised me.

It's that Cruz was so mean to Ben Frikkin' Carson!!!

Yes, it was all those dirty tricks Cruz played on good ole Ben.

I explained what the situation had been, but nope, mean ole Cruz didn't issue a retraction about Ben not leaving the race.

But Trump...

Now Trump had treated Ben Carson fairly and with honor.

Make of that what you will.

What I make of it is that average people don't think about politics so much as long as someone is in the general vicinity of their beliefs.

What they care about is someone who treats people they like (and thus by extension themselves) fairly.

The whole Trump is a crazy, insane dictator who will do crazy mean violent things insanely and crazily-

make no headway with them because they they have seen with their own eyes what they consider good and honorable behavior.

YMMV.

And I admit that it surprised me that that silly little incident held so much sway on voters.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2016 01:52 PM (0cMkb)

710 In case people missed this from the ONT. Dude in HK drops $50k to make a silicone robotic duplicate of Scarlett Johansson

http://www.ufunk.net/design/scarlett-johansson-robot/

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 04, 2016 01:52 PM (nPrGV)

711 lol what's going on Anna Puma, you're in a kinky mood today.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 01:53 PM (xuouz)

712 Romney got more votes than McCain yet somehow 5 million Republicans stayed home in 2012.

Exactly. I think its people who are faced with the choice of admitting that they're not in the majority any longer and that the nation no longer agrees with them... or making up excuses for how its still all true somehow and we can turn this all around if only someone is the right candidate.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 01:53 PM (39g3+)

713 706 Doesn't mean much these days in our Khardasian culture. We want to start winning big again we need stop this micro aggressive SJW culture that is taking over everything and replacing reason with feelings.

This is correct. All these people saying "he ran a bad campaign!" and "this group stayed home!" don't get it. It wasn't about turnout. It was about culture, and he was on the wrong end of it. He ran a campaign that would have won gigantic in the 80s, but loses in the modern culture.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 01:51 PM (39g3+)

_____

Obama goes on Letterman and picks EPSN brackets and shit. And every time he does this, respectable GOPe types say oh my goodness, how awful and unbecoming a president this is. So instead of playing the same game, they stick their nose up in the air. Maybe when Sasha is running for prezzie, they'll figure it out.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 01:54 PM (0LHZx)

714
I wonder if there's an anti-ValJar undercurrent here:

'I think that if my boss quit tomorrow, she will go down as one of the greatest American women in the history of the world,' said Abedin.

Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 01:55 PM (pC96u)

715 >>>He was hectored into answering the question by Chris
Matthews. He badgered him on it, in his Chris Matthews style, and
actually flustered him to the point where Trump went off script and
committed to a position.

What everyone conveniently forgets is it was an IF scenario. IF abortion were legal, what would you have done?

Uh, he'd enforce the law by punishing lawbreakers.

But he was forced to give this answer, and if he hadn't, ace and
Will Saletan and Chris Matthews and the other anti-Trump people would be
killing him on dodging the question.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 01:50 PM (xuouz)<<<

Nobody puts Donny in a corner.

... oh wait... spittle spewing drunk Chris Matthews did. **rubs hands together** Can't wait to try that myself.

Posted by: Vlad P. at April 04, 2016 01:55 PM (H9MG5)

716 "Romney got more votes than McCain yet somehow 5 million Republicans stayed home in 2012."

Firstly, Obama was a lot more popular in 2008 than 2012, so Romney had a natural pick-up.

In 2012, white non-college turnout was 57%, while black turnout was 66%. You move that needle a bit, and Romney woulda/coulda/shoulda won.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 04, 2016 01:55 PM (r1fLd)

717 Trump made a bad unforced error getting into abortion when he didn't need to.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 04, 2016 01:44 PM (r1fLd)

He was hectored into answering the question by Chris Matthews.

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Putin may not play fair either.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 01:55 PM (Nwg0u)

718 Exactly. I think its people who are faced with the choice of admitting that they're not in the majority any longer and that the nation no longer agrees with them... or making up excuses for how its still all true somehow and we can turn this all around if only someone is the right candidate.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 01:53 PM (39g3+)

_____

If the demographics of 2012 were around in 1984, Reagan would have won 52-48 vs. 59-41. That is the issue. Demographics. All the rest is noise.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 01:56 PM (0LHZx)

719 So with its new $15 an hour minimum wage, how many businesses do you think will close their doors in California in the first month alone?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 01:57 PM (39g3+)

720 I wonder if there's an anti-ValJar undercurrent here:

'I think that if my boss quit tomorrow, she will go down as one of the greatest American women in the history of the world,' said Abedin.
Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 01:55 PM (pC96u)

Wow! I never even thought about the fact that when it comes to the Hillary-Obama feud, it's really Hillary-Jarrett, isn't it? Me-OW. How much must those two fucking hate the shit out of each other?

I mean Barack Obama can't shoot 40% from the free throw line, he sure as shit wasn't behind any of the inside baseball stuff that won him his campaign. Guy is a complete fuckstick. Jarrett holds the strings. And she swooped in with her marketing gimmick figurehead and stole Hillary's longed-for election.

My god.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 01:58 PM (xuouz)

721 But on his website Cruz used to say that Congress can end run Roe by enacting a law to declare a fetus to be a person. It's no longer there, but I know I saw it. That's what the wayback machine is for.

Were he the nominee, the Emily's list crowd will hang Cruz on this position.

So would I. It's an awful and stupid position that would lead into an unimaginable legal morass that NO ONE would ever be able to defend on any reasonable or moral grounds.

I am anti-Roe (as any sane, intelligent person must be) and I am anti-abortion (outside of the first trimester) but to try and declare a fetus a person is just the wrong way to go about anything. It is ridiculous and it would automatically cause a whole cascade of other laws and regulations that would be so difficult to implement, strange in their application and weird in their consequences that if boggles the mind to think that anyone would really consider this.

It'll also get Cruz borked if he ever goes for SCOTUS.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 04, 2016 01:44 PM (r1fLd)

I don't see that one idiotic idea of Cruz's should disqualify him for the SCOTUS. I know that many would use this, as you state, but I don't see how the silly notion to declare fetuses "persons" has any effect on ones ability to understand and interpret standing law.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 04, 2016 01:58 PM (zc3Db)

722
Outcry as Muslim students are exempted from Swiss tradition of shaking teachers' hands at school after 'refusing to adopt their way of life'

Muslim students will no longer need to shake their female teachers' hands

http://goo.gl/9YF4lK

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 04, 2016 01:58 PM (iQIUe)

723 I never got an answer last time, do we light each *others'* hair on fire, or our *own* hair?

I don't want to commit a faux pas.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 04, 2016 01:58 PM (wB8Tg)

724 "she's so beautiful and she's so little!"'

Isn't that the National anthem of Alextopia?
Posted by: garrett at April 04, 2016 01:45 PM (leBig)

Those are the lyrics.

It's set to the Imperial March.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 04, 2016 01:58 PM (mf5HN)

725 1. Wait until Jane Fonda kicks the bucket.
2. Install pay toilets on her place of interment.
Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at April 04, 2016 01:30 PM (ml1PM)

I know, right? I've seen Jane Fonda urinal cakes for sale on eBay.

I wonder if she has any idea...?

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 04, 2016 01:59 PM (PpNN2)

726 So with its new $15 an hour minimum wage, how many businesses do you think will close their doors in California in the first month alone?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 01:57 PM (39g3+)

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I dont think it gets fully implemented until 2022. By then the crash is far enough from the legislation nobody will notice.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 04, 2016 01:59 PM (8XRCm)

727 What everyone conveniently forgets is it was an IF scenario. IF abortion were [il]legal, what would you have done?

Uh, he'd enforce the law by punishing lawbreakers.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 01:50 PM (xuouz)

Exactly.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 04, 2016 01:59 PM (zc3Db)

728 Firstly, Obama was a lot more popular in 2008 than 2012, so Romney had a natural pick-up.

In 2012, white non-college turnout was 57%, while black turnout was 66%. You move that needle a bit, and Romney woulda/coulda/shoulda won.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 04, 2016 01:55 PM (r1fLd)

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2008:
Obama: 69.5M
McLame: 60M

2012:
Obama: 66M
Romney: 61M

What happened in 2012 is basically 2.5M Obama voters from 2008 stayed home, while 1M Obama voters voted for Romney.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 01:59 PM (0LHZx)

729 It's set to the Imperial March.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 04, 2016 01:58 PM (mf5HN)

Well, at least there's that.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 04, 2016 02:00 PM (wB8Tg)

730
I think it's fair to say that as one of the most successful Democratic presidents in the history of this country that there is nothing President Clinton can't do. He's one of my great inspirations for getting into public service.'
She later added; 'And so I don't think there's anything in the world that he can't do.
---

And then the soprano stabs the tenor, and then the fat lady sings.

This is the prelude to betrayal . . . .

Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 02:00 PM (pC96u)

731 Empress, which Imperial March? The one from Star Wars?

Kari, being kinky is a diverting refreshing hobby from the constant circular firing squads.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 04, 2016 02:00 PM (nPrGV)

732 $15 in Seattle hasn't led to a stampede of bankruptcies. What's happened is prices have increased. And will continue to increase. And eventually someone making $15 an hour will be able to afford what they could afford making $11/hr (which is the statewide minimum wage).

McDonald's isn't going to leave Seattle or California. They will just increase the price of a Big Mac by 10%.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 02:01 PM (0LHZx)

733 "Obama goes on Letterman and picks EPSN brackets and shit. And every time
he does this, respectable GOPe types say oh my goodness, how awful and
unbecoming a president this is."

Really? Because I myself don't hear the establishment GOP making those sorts of criticisms at all. It's astonishing how little criticism of *any* sort Obama has had from elected Republicans. They've been quiet as church mice for the most part.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 04, 2016 02:01 PM (noWW6)

734 If the demographics of 2012 were around in 1984, Reagan would have won 52-48 vs. 59-41. That is the issue. Demographics. All the rest is noise.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 01:56 PM (0LHZx)

This is bullshit moo moo, it invites the defeatism we're seeing around here, and it plays into the GOP's hands, the "we need a pretty hispanic who can pitch amnesty!" line they've been parroting since 2008.

What is needed is for someone to unapologetically advocate for limited government and challenge identy politics as the poison that it is. People can change their minds, but they can't change their skin color or gender. Treat everyone equally and we have a chance. We must strike back at the left, not let them herd us with these pathetic rhetorical tactics.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 02:02 PM (xuouz)

735 Ace must still be trying to figure out why he's so turned on by CornHub?

Posted by: garrett at April 04, 2016 02:02 PM (leBig)

736 In 2012, white non-college turnout was 57%, while black turnout was 66%. You move that needle a bit, and Romney woulda/coulda/shoulda won.

___

Tinker with that map at 538. A percent or two around the edges and that loss becomes a blowout win.

Williams be damned, dismiss blue collar at your own peril.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, turkey ain't all that's stuffed at April 04, 2016 02:02 PM (V1M8q)

737 Ace is writing the movie script for Children of the C0rnHub.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 04, 2016 02:02 PM (nPrGV)

738 Kari, being kinky is a diverting refreshing hobby from the constant circular firing squads.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 04, 2016 02:00 PM (nPrGV)

There is only...

The War.

Trumpenkrieg.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 02:03 PM (xuouz)

739 When was that painted?

I remember an argument about Islam, and I pointed out Islamic treatment of women. My opponent noted we were just as bad in the 50s!

Perhaps in the 1350s. Certainly not when that painting was created.

Posted by: DonS at April 04, 2016 02:03 PM (Q2pWM)

740 Has AtC shot this thread in the knee with a longbow yet?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 04, 2016 02:03 PM (kTF2Z)

741 >>It's set to the Imperial March.

But, it's April.

Posted by: garrett at April 04, 2016 02:04 PM (leBig)

742 Empress, which Imperial March? The one from Star Wars?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 04, 2016 02:00 PM (nPrGV)

But of course.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 04, 2016 02:04 PM (mf5HN)

743 "What everyone conveniently forgets is it was an IF scenario. IF abortion were [il]legal, what would you have done?"

Not sure whatever happened to the option of "hey, Chrissie, I'm not going to get into incredibly remote hypothetical questions here, especially not ones that display heavy political bias by the questioner, FYNQ."

Posted by: torquewrench at April 04, 2016 02:04 PM (noWW6)

744 Ace is writing the movie script for Children of the C0rnHub.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 04, 2016 02:02 PM (nPrGV)

Beware He Who Walks Among the Pixels!

Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2016 02:04 PM (0cMkb)

745 Can we all take a moment to appreciate that the fine young lady at the top of the page is nipping ever so slightly to starboard?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 02:04 PM (xuouz)

746 734 If the demographics of 2012 were around in 1984, Reagan would have won 52-48 vs. 59-41. That is the issue. Demographics. All the rest is noise.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 01:56 PM (0LHZx)

This is bullshit moo moo, it invites the defeatism we're seeing around here, and it plays into the GOP's hands, the "we need a pretty hispanic who can pitch amnesty!" line they've been parroting since 2008.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 02:02 PM (xuouz)

____

Did I fucking say that? I said if you were to simply overlay the demographics of 2012 in 1984, Reagan would have barely won, compared to his 49 state landslide. You can debate the reasons for this, but you can't debate the statistics.

And it's not just hispanics. It's the % of single mothers vs. married mothers, the % of urban vs rural voters, etc. All these changes in demographics have hurt the Republican party.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 04, 2016 02:04 PM (0LHZx)

747 It needs to be shot in the arse with a ballista...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, turkey ain't all that's stuffed at April 04, 2016 02:05 PM (V1M8q)

748 "Trumpenkrieg."

Blitzkruz!

Posted by: torquewrench at April 04, 2016 02:05 PM (noWW6)

749 'I think that if my boss quit tomorrow, she will
go down as one of the greatest American women in the history of the
world,' said Abedin.

Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 01:55 PM (pC96u)

I think the operative phrase there regarding Hillary is "go down."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 02:05 PM (oKE6c)

750 "I don't see that one idiotic idea of Cruz's should disqualify him for the SCOTUS"

Bork had an ultra-originalist philosophy of the Constitution that led to a narrow reading on personal rights, including abortion, and was vocal about it, IIRC.

I recall Ted Kennedy yelling during hearings about how voting for Bork would bring back back-alley abortions, which is the single thing that hung Bork the most.

So yes, this one issue can be a disqualifier. Half the Senate Republicans will go along just to see the look on Ted's face.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 04, 2016 02:05 PM (r1fLd)

751 I imagine back then this painting was as close to soft core pron as you could get.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 04, 2016 02:05 PM (btH0m)

752 Really? Because I myself don't hear the establishment GOP making those sorts of criticisms at all. It's astonishing how little criticism of *any* sort Obama has had from elected Republicans. They've been quiet as church mice for the most part.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 04, 2016 02:01 PM (noWW6)

------

Fast & Furious
Obamacare Rollout
Debt Ceilings
IRS
The VA
Iranian Nukes
Benghazi
Sequestration
Passed on Thatchers AND Mrs Reagans AND Scalias funerals.
The Rise of Isis

Its not like they havent had any material to make a stink with Obama about.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 04, 2016 02:05 PM (8XRCm)

753 Not sure whatever happened to the option of "hey, Chrissie, I'm not going to get into incredibly remote hypothetical questions here, especially not ones that display heavy political bias by the questioner, FYNQ."
Posted by: torquewrench at April 04, 2016 02:04 PM (noWW6)

Ooh, with the brutal bracket sic where you quoted me too.

That's absolutely what he should have done. But this was the 3rd or 4th time he was asked the question.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 02:05 PM (xuouz)

754 Under my plan, everyone will have free tits like those.

Posted by: Bernie, 2016. at April 04, 2016 10:38 AM
.....2nd look at Bernie?

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 04, 2016 02:06 PM (btH0m)

755 "Behind the Green Stalk"

Starring

Marilyn Cornfritters

and

Ron JiffyPop

Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2016 02:06 PM (0cMkb)

756 And then the soprano stabs the tenor, and then the fat lady sings.

-
It'll be a rocks off opera.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 02:06 PM (Nwg0u)

757 I imagine back then this painting was as close to soft core pron as you could get.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 04, 2016 02:05 PM (btH0m)

Idk about that. There's a reason they called him TITian.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 02:06 PM (xuouz)

758
it's really Hillary-Jarrett, isn't it?
--------------------------

That's one reason I have some hope that Obama lets the FBI Primary proceed.

Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 02:06 PM (pC96u)

759 And then the soprano stabs the tenor, and then the fat lady sings.

Tony stabbed who?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2016 02:06 PM (NsI03)

760 You all will find out who's head Negan bashed in before this "walking thread" is put down.

Posted by: writers for The Walking Dead at April 04, 2016 02:06 PM (H9MG5)

761 Can we all take a moment to appreciate that the fine young lady at the top of the page is nipping ever so slightly to starboard?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 02:04 PM (xuouz)
________________________

Yeah, I,, uh,, oh you said nipping not limping... Never mind.

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 04, 2016 02:07 PM (HSmrB)

762 Meh. My rack is better than you've imagined. Much better.

Posted by: Scarlet Johansen at April 04, 2016 02:07 PM (FXW24)

763 $15 in Seattle hasn't led to a stampede of bankruptcies. What's happened is prices have increased.

They aren't jacking up the minimum wage to 15 bucks yet in Seattle, its a slow increase over time. But it has already lead to closing businesses and companies leaving the area anyway because they can read the tea leaves. And for many businesses as you should know just a small increase in cost shuts them down.

Most restaurants are riding that razor's edge.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 02:07 PM (39g3+)

764 Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2016 01:52 PM (0cMkb)

Did they know Trump had disparaged Carson's abilities as a top physician, called him a liar IIRC and compared him to a child molester?

This is what I don't get. They absolutely loathe Cruz for doing certain things or being certain ways. Which could be fair, whatever. But we have documented evidence of Trump doing our being worse, and it means nothing to them.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 04, 2016 02:08 PM (HKPap)

765 Back to check in on the fair maiden lit by candlelight. Yes, I know shes basically for sale, and not at all virtuous, but she is cute. And she has well lit boobs.

Posted by: IP at April 04, 2016 02:08 PM (aQQbl)

766 Meh. My rack is better than you've imagined. Much better.
Posted by: Scarlet Johansen at April 04, 2016 02:07 PM (FXW24)

I don't know, I can imagine quite a bit.

Posted by: Han Solo, fapping in the cockpit of the Millenium Falcon at April 04, 2016 02:08 PM (xuouz)

767 Fast & Furious
Obamacare Rollout
Debt Ceilings
IRS
The VA
Iranian Nukes
Benghazi
Sequestration
Passed on Thatchers AND Mrs Reagans AND Scalias funerals.
The Rise of Isis

Its not like they havent had any material to make a stink with Obama about.

-
Say what you will about Obama, he never grabbed Michelle Fields' arm.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 02:09 PM (Nwg0u)

768 $15/hr for wait staff, there goes even more of the tips they depend on because the customers will be seeing the higher menu prices, know about the wage increase, and won't feel an urge to help someone who is already doing 'so well.'

So everyone circles the financial drain even quicker.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 04, 2016 02:10 PM (nPrGV)

769 I'm still perplexed at why any GOP candidate, let's forget Trump for a second, gets blindsided by questions about the legality of abortion or as I like to call it, baby murder?

The SCOTUS has removed that question from political and democratic consideration whether we like it or not and I certainly don't, access to abortion has been constitutionalized and subsequently can't be made illeagal.

The courts have arrogated to themselves the power to define the contours of what it thinks are allowable limitations.

It's completely outside the democratic and political process much like gay marriage and soon to be most LBGTQFHIJKSKW issues.

There never will be 60 votes in the senate to pass an amendment needless to say you will never be able to meet the requirements to pass it in a convention of the states.

The left is busy moving its agenda along and constitutionalizing those parts where it doesn't enjoy broad support.

Take for instance gay marriage, you had 30 states and the federal government on one side, i.e. The democrat and representative process side and the left simply had its apparatchiks in the only body that matters in our post constitutional society institute their agenda and preference.

They simply had the courts undo the will of the people, the descisons didn't even have the slightest constitutional reasoning or foundation but at the end of the day the left got what it wanted and is now roaming the battlefield shooting survivors.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 04, 2016 02:10 PM (+oBbu)

770 and a fine lute....

Posted by: IP at April 04, 2016 02:10 PM (aQQbl)

771 I imagine back then this painting was as close to soft core pron as you could get.

Nah, it got a lot more raunchy in paintings. They're just considered great art and people ignore that its essentially porn.

http://tinyurl.com/hjoo2gn

The paintings are really good but Leda being humped by a swan is just bestiality with great brush strokes.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 02:11 PM (39g3+)

772 I imagine back then this painting was as close to soft core pron as you could get.
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[cough; cough]

Posted by: the rape of the sabines at April 04, 2016 02:12 PM (UbeIw)

773 Not sure whatever happened to the option of "hey, Chrissie, I'm not going to get into incredibly remote hypothetical questions here, especially not ones that display heavy political bias by the questioner, FYNQ."

Posted by: torquewrench at April 04, 2016 02:04 PM (noWW6)

Trump said that, several times, and then he started questioning Pissy Matthews about vatican doctrine on abortion and whether Pissy agreed with it and considered himself a good Catholic. Pissy lied about that - obviously - and Trump let him off the hook as Pissy continued to harass Trump about the punishment question.

Again, Trump was not wrong on that, anyway. If abortion were illegal then the woman seeking one is not blameless. I think it's easier to examine that question if one considers a mother about to give birth in a couple of days but choosing to have a "late term abortion" right before delivery. I don't think any sane person would think that mother should not be punished in some way for committing what is, in almost all aspects of examination of that particular scenario, infanticide.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 04, 2016 02:12 PM (zc3Db)

774 Oh dear... Star Wars Episode VIII: Rey finds Han's C0rnHub stash.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 04, 2016 02:12 PM (nPrGV)

775
$15/hr for wait staff, there goes even more of the tips they depend on because the customers will be seeing the higher menu prices, know about the wage increase, and won't feel an urge to help someone who is already doing 'so well.'
So everyone circles the financial drain even quicker.
Posted by: Anna Puma

I thought servers were paid less than minimum wage and were expected to make up for it with gratuities?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 04, 2016 02:12 PM (FkBIv)

776 Is the guy with the pervy grin on the left pointing at the, um, damsel's boobs?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 04, 2016 02:12 PM (HKPap)

777 "Ooh, with the brutal bracket sic where you quoted me too."

TPOP's correction, not mine.

"That's absolutely what he should have done. But this was the 3rd or 4th time he was asked the question."

What the go-to for Republicans needs to be is this: when journalists start in with the absolutely insistent badgering on the sorts of gotcha questions that Democrats are never asked, POINT THAT SHIT OUT.

They're demanding an answer? Demand answers back from them.

Point out that according to Gallup, only one in ten Americans now repose "a great deal of trust" in the news media, and cite the questioner's example of why it is that trust in the media has become so eroded.

Don't cede the field to them. Command it. Challenge their rules. Trump was allegedly supposed to be good at that stuff. Instead he's been letting himself be pushed around by their ground rules to where he slips up and makes unforced errors.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 04, 2016 02:13 PM (noWW6)

778 A --"What happened in 2012 is basically 2.5M Obama voters from 2008 stayed home, while 1M Obama voters voted for Romney."
B --"Tinker with that map at 538. A percent or two around the edges and that loss becomes a blowout win."

A is wrong. You need to look granularly at the electoral map, which is what B does.

I was for Trump because I thought he could expand the 2012 electoral map by winning states like Florida and Ohio. I'm not as sanguine after his bad March, but still think he has a shot.

Cruz has no shot. Kasich could, but he's really a Democrat, but still better than Hillary. With Romney/Ryan we'll likely get a repeat of 2012. e.g. Ryan still won't win WI in a general.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 04, 2016 02:13 PM (r1fLd)

779 Christopher Taylor or The Rape of Europa

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 04, 2016 02:13 PM (nPrGV)

780 $15 in Seattle hasn't led to a stampede of bankruptcies. What's happened is prices have increased.$15 in Seattle hasn't led to a stampede of bankruptcies. What's happened is prices have increased.

I call this the "Wile E. Coyote effect." Liberals enact an idiotic policy, then ten minutes later point and say, "See? No problem," just like Wile E. Coyote when he is flying through the air.

It's like the crew of the Titanic laughing off the iceberg strike.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 04, 2016 02:13 PM (oKE6c)

781 I just noticed the lute. (Was looking at the enlargement to see the aureole).

So where's the fisk?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 04, 2016 02:13 PM (1xUj/)

782 735---Perhaps in the 1350s. Certainly not when that painting was created.
Posted by: DonS at April 04, 2016 02:03 PM (Q2pWM)
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Not in the 1350's.
Not even in the 950's.
Not ever, come to think of it.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 04, 2016 02:14 PM (T/5A0)

783 Ooh, with the brutal bracket sic where you quoted me too.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 02:05 PM (xuouz)

I did that to correct your typo in my pasting. I wish people would correct some of my sillier typos when they copy and paste my comments.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 04, 2016 02:14 PM (zc3Db)

784
'I'm on the road a lot on the campaign. As I mentioned earlier I have a four-year- old son and I don't think I could do this if I didn't have the support of a spouse who is willing to basically be a stay-at- home dad as much as he possibly can so I'm able to be on the road,' said Abedin.

'I miss my son but I don't worry about him because I know between this little village we've created between Anthony and my in-laws and my mom and our families and this wonderful woman who we have helping us I can go out and be the best professional woman that I can be because I have that support.'
--------------------------

Cue the ominous timpani.

This is how Huma will have to comfort herself when she goes up for 18 months in Club Fed.

Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 02:15 PM (pC96u)

785 Nood.

Posted by: HH at April 04, 2016 02:16 PM (DrCtv)

786 New Doom Thread due to SCOTUS voting illegals should be counted for Congressional redistricting.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 04, 2016 02:16 PM (nPrGV)

787 I thought servers were paid less than minimum wage and were expected to make up for it with gratuities?

They are. The servers' minimum wage in my state is $5.25, I think.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 04, 2016 02:16 PM (1xUj/)

788 I figured out a way for Cruz to win the nomination without destroying the GOP. All he has to do is overcome Trump's delegates without having to steal Trump's delegates with subterfuge. If he manages to pack closet Cruz supporters into Trump's delegate slots and manages to steal the nomination by stealing Trump delegates, it's over. Riots, cats sleeping with dogs, the end days are upon us. However, if Trump goes to Cleveland with say 1,200 delegates and loses the nomination 1,200 to 1,237 to Cruz, because Cruz was able to consolidate all the other delegates, then he would not have "stolen" the nomination. However, if he has to rely on unfaithful Trump delegates, better get out your umbrella, because it is going to rain...

Posted by: tommylotto at April 04, 2016 02:16 PM (A3a8d)

789 Cue the ominous timpani.

This is how Huma will have to comfort herself when she goes up for 18 months in Club Fed.

Posted by: iforgot at April 04, 2016 02:15 PM
....Nope, it will be someone lower on the food chain that takes a dive (pun intended) for Broom Hilda.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 04, 2016 02:16 PM (btH0m)

790 I thought servers were paid less than minimum wage and were expected to make up for it with gratuities?

They do, and most minimum wage schemes allow for that by letting tip-driven businesses pay less for servers. But if their wages go up by several dollars and the food is all more expensive... tips suffer.

This has already been proven in San Francisco their last increase.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 04, 2016 02:17 PM (39g3+)

791 This thread is so old, the lady in the painting is now old and grey and playing soccer with her bewbs.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at April 04, 2016 02:17 PM (0x/TW)

792 I wish people would ~~correct~~ korekt some of my ~~sillier~~ willy-er typos when they ~~copy~~ poopy and ~~paste~~ taste my comments.
Fuxed.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 04, 2016 02:17 PM (UbeIw)

793 Soulpatchtony:

You should read Dan Pellegrini's full opinion, and then you will understand why the "birther" argument against Ted Cruz is legally dead. Here's the heart of it:

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2755257/PA-TedCruzruling.txt
"While some constitutional issues are truly diffcult, with
framing era sources either nonexistent or contradictory,
here, the relevant materials clearly indicate that a
"natural born Citizen" means a citizen from birth with no
need to go through naturalization proceedings. The Supreme
Court has long recognized that two particularly useful
sources in understanding constitutional terms are British
common law [See Smith 12. Alabama, 124 U.S. 465, 478 (188

]
and enactments of the First Congress. [See Wisconsin v.
Pelican Ins. Co., 127 U.S. 265, 297 (188

.] Both confirm
that the original meaning of the phrase "natural born Citizen"
includes persons born abroad who are citizens from birth
based on the citizenship of a parent.

As to the British practice, laws in force in the 1700's
recognized that children born outside of the British Empire
to subjects of the Crown were subjects themselves and
explicitly used "natural born" to encompass such children.
[See United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 655
189

.] These statutes provided that children born abroad
to subjects of the British Empire were "natural born Subjects
. . . to all Intents, Constructions, and Purposes whatsoever."
[7 Ann, 0. 5, ?3 (170

; see also British Nationality Act,
1730, 4 Geo. 2, c. 21.] The Framers, of course, would have
been intimately familiar with these statutes and the way
they used terms like "natural born," since the
statutes were binding law in the colonies before the
Revolutionary War.

(cut more examination of the historical evidence)

While the field of candidates for the next presidential
election is still taking shape, at least one potential
candidate, Senator Ted Cruz, was born in a Canadian hospital
to a US citizen mother. [See Monica Langley, Ted Cruz, Invoking
Reagan, Angers GOP Colleagues Bat Wins Fans Elsewhere, WALL ST.
J. (Apr. 18, 2014, 11:36 Despite the happenstance of a
birth across the border, there is no question that Senator
Cruz has been a citizen from birth and is thus a "natural
born Citizen" within the meaning of the Constitution.
Indeed, because his father had also been resident in the
United States, Senator Cruz would have been a "natural
born Citizen" even under the Naturalization Act of 1790.

There are plenty of serious issues to debate in the
upcoming presidential election cycle. The less time spent
dealing with specious objections to candidate eligibility,
the better. Fortunately, the Constitution is refreshingly
clear on these eligibility issues. To serve, an individual
must be at least thirty five years old and a "natural born
Citizen." Thirty-four and a half is not enough and, for
better or worse, a naturalized citizen cannot serve. But as
Congress has recognized since the Founding, a person
born abroad to a U.S-. citizen parent is generally a
citizen from birth with no need for naturalization. And
the phrase "natural born Citizen" in the Constitution
encompasses all such citizens from birth. Thus, an
individual born to a US citizen parent, whether in
California or Canada or the Canal Zone, is a US citizen
from birth and is Fully eligible to serve as President if the
people so choose.

(cut)

Having extensively reviewed all articles cited in this opinion,
as well as many others, this Court holds, consistent with the
common law precedent and statutory history, that a "natural born
citizen" includes any person who is a United States citizen from
birth. Accordingly, because he was a citizen of the United States
from birth, Ted Cruz is eligible to serve as President of the
United States, and the objection filed by Carmen Elliott to
the Nomination Petition of Ted Cruz is denied.

DAN PELLEGRINI, Senior Judge

Posted by: TomServo at April 04, 2016 02:17 PM (/jecC)

794 Captioned: Yes dear, that's how you grip it.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 04, 2016 02:17 PM (btH0m)

795 Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2016 01:52 PM (0cMkb)

Did they know Trump had disparaged Carson's abilities as a top physician, called him a liar IIRC and compared him to a child molester?

This is what I don't get. They absolutely loathe Cruz for doing certain things or being certain ways. Which could be fair, whatever. But we have documented evidence of Trump doing our being worse, and it means nothing to them.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 04, 2016 02:08 PM (HKPap)

Yeah, it's weird. But, the Carson is out thing is what really sticks in their craw.

To me that is a YUUUUGE nothing.

But for them that right there was the turning point.

Also, mentioned was when Trump waited for Carson to be called onstage, but the main thing was the Carson is out dealio.

I don't say I understand it exactly, but I do get that after the GOPe nonsense over the last few elections, in promising one thing and deliver another, that maybe they values deeds over words.

And it's not just because they think Trump was nicer, they definitely saw Cruz as a hypocrite and mean-spirited dirty trickster,

so that needs to be plugged into the equation.

Again, just guessing but I think they were looking for evidence of more than just words from the candidate they support this time.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2016 02:18 PM (0cMkb)

796 New hash!

Posted by: andycanuck at April 04, 2016 02:18 PM (UbeIw)

797 "I thought servers were paid less than minimum wage and were expected to make up for it with gratuities?"

See, that's why I had my own servers, but I never wiped them.

Posted by: Hillary/Huma 2016! at April 04, 2016 02:19 PM (btH0m)

798 Two stories from Drudge.

1) Iran accuses Obozo of violating the nuke deal.

2) The porn star who accused porn star James Dean of rape found dead.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 02:21 PM (Nwg0u)

799 Posted by: andycanuck at April 04, 2016 02:17 PM (UbeIw)

Heh. Well played, sir.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 04, 2016 02:21 PM (zc3Db)

800 "$15 in Seattle hasn't led to a stampede of bankruptcies. What's happened is prices have increased."

Not bankruptcies; simply put, restaurant owners are closing their doors first, rather than waiting until they face bankruptcy. Check the link in my nick.

At the rate things are going, residents of Seattle are going to have to relearn how to cook for themselves again in the near future.

Posted by: Qoheleth at April 04, 2016 02:22 PM (iIzG7)

801 TPOP's correction, not mine.

Don't cede the field to them. Command it. Challenge their rules. Trump was allegedly supposed to be good at that stuff. Instead he's been letting himself be pushed around by their ground rules to where he slips up and makes unforced errors.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 04, 2016 02:13 PM (noWW6)

*scribbles letters TPOP in little black book*

As far as not ceding the field, he has done that. But he never gets credit for it because the right-wing commentariat hates him too much to give him any credit, for anything. So you probably haven't even seen the clip where he calls Anderson Cooper a "professional announcer" and makes him read Michelle Fields' statement about being "nearly thrown to the floor" because it's too sensitive a subject to hand it to Trump on that one. And because Cooper said Trump was "acting like a 5 year old" on the wife stuff with Cruz, which is a tasty soundbite for the left.

No credit for not backing down from Jeb until he was relegated to the ash heap of electoral history.

No credit for shutting down this little cry bully
dailym.ai/1S41Zel

Want more?

Posted by: Han Solo, fapping in the cockpit of the Millenium Falcon at April 04, 2016 02:23 PM (xuouz)

802 Awesome sock is awesome.

But now it's off.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 02:23 PM (xuouz)

803 Posted by: TomServo at April 04, 2016 02:17 PM (/jecC)
________________

It's not so simple. The concept of a British subject and an American citizen was/is not to be considered analogous.

Furthermore, Ted is a citizen by virtue of a statute that gave him citizenship at the time of his birth. Without that statute, he would not have been a citizen and would have needed to be naturalized. So, he owes his citizenship to a statute, not the Constitution. It could be fairly argued to be natural born you must be a citizen at the time of your birth by virtue of the Constitution, not by virtue of a statute that cannot be used to amend or expand the Constitution.

Posted by: tommylotto at April 04, 2016 02:24 PM (A3a8d)

804 Posted by: TomServo at April 04, 2016 02:17 PM (/jecC)

Fine. Then it should be heard in court and decided on. The issue should have been heard in 2008. And Cruz, being a Constitutional scholar, ought to be at the forefront of those calling for this issue to be legally resolved in court to establish the actual delineation of what the extremely important Constitutional term "natural born citizen" actually means in our system.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 04, 2016 02:25 PM (zc3Db)

805 Another porn star eulogizes dead porn star.

"She was a really good friend, and one of the best actresses and performers that I've ever had the pleasure to work with, and I'm just glad that I had the opportunity to work with her and call her a friend."

Pleasure to work with? Yeah, I can believe that.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 02:26 PM (Nwg0u)

806

In any case, I still haven't seen the scenario where Cruz gets the
nom - barring Trump dropping dead. The GOPe doesn't want him and will
drop him in favor of Ryan in a contested convention.

Posted by: Soulpatchtony at April 04, 2016 01:38 PM (m40v5)
---
I've identified the problem here: as basically everyone still parroting the GOPe/establishment red herring, you have no clue what you're talking about.
Most of the delegates aren't "GOPe", whatever that means. They're either candidates close supporters or local grassroots activists that are way more likely to side with Cruz than with Trump, Ryan or anyone else.Cruz has been doing an excellent job of placing his supporters on delegate slates - just did it yesterday in ND, for example, as he did in Tennessee, where the delegates bound to vote for Trump in the 1st ballot are actually Cruz supporters.
If Trump doesn't in in the 1st ballot, I bet Cruz wins the second in a landslide.
Also, Cruz and Trump will dominate the rules committee. If they want the rules to state that only one of them can be the nominee - by, for example, extending the Rule 40 and preventing anyone who hasn't won 8 states to ever appear in any ballot- they can. More, they have already signalled they will.

Posted by: Alabi at April 04, 2016 02:27 PM (89I+i)

807
Pleasure to work with? Yeah, I can believe that.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 02:26 PM (Nwg0u)
---
It was a business to do pleasure with her

Posted by: Alabi at April 04, 2016 02:27 PM (89I+i)

808 Another porn star eulogizes dead porn star.

"She was a really good friend, and one of the best actresses and performers that I've ever had the pleasure to work with, and I'm just glad that I had the opportunity to work with her and call her a friend."

Pleasure to work with? Yeah, I can believe that.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 02:26 PM (Nwg0u)

But what were their NAMES?! I need to judge the pleasure they took in working together for myself.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 02:28 PM (xuouz)

809 But what were their NAMES?! I need to judge the pleasure they took in working together for myself.

-
See Drudge.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 04, 2016 02:29 PM (Nwg0u)

810 795 Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2016 01:52 PM (0cMkb)

Did they know Trump had disparaged Carson's abilities as a top physician, called him a liar IIRC and compared him to a child molester?

This is what I don't get. They absolutely loathe Cruz for doing certain things or being certain ways. Which could be fair, whatever. But we have documented evidence of Trump doing our being worse, and it means nothing to them.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 04, 2016 02:08 PM (HKPap)

______

Actually, if you remember, Trump was the only one who believed Carson. Carson in his book said he was a violent youth who stab a kid (saved by a buckle) and attack his mother and was prone to violent rages. Everyone was saying that Carson was making it up to give himself "street cred". Only Trump took Carson at his word and pointed out that Carson's own version of his own story indicated psychological problems. Carson probably respects that as a fair attack, while everyone else was calling him a liar.

Posted by: tommylotto at April 04, 2016 02:30 PM (A3a8d)

811 Tommylotto - go back and read the full decision, I gave you the link. Judge Pellegrini answered your objections clearly. Also, as everyone who looks at the issue agrees, the text of the Constitution never defined the phrase, therefore it is useless towards determining what it means. In the legal hierarchy of authority, that means the next most relevant determining factor is active Statutes, since those reflect the active will of the legislative branch, agreed to by the executive.

Or to put it simply, the fact that you admit that he is a natural born citizen by statute invalidates all of the rest of your argument, at least as far as the legal system of the United States is concerned.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2016 02:44 PM (/jecC)

812 Can we all take a moment to appreciate that the fine young lady at the top of the page is nipping ever so slightly to starboard?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 04, 2016 02:04 PM (xuouz)

It was an accident. Wardrobe malfunction, I swear!

Posted by: Gerard van Honthorst at April 04, 2016 03:33 PM (0IhFx)

813 So, Ryan for Convention White Knight?....well, then I vote for the riot.

I'll also be voting for the Democrat.

Posted by: Hotspur at April 04, 2016 06:31 PM (J3UIw)

814 375 @217

Palm Beach Post, 3/29/16

"Trump aide charged with misdemeanor battery"

http://tinyurl.com/h8ojv73

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at April 04, 2016 12:16 PM (t5zYU)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Are you serious? Are you fricking SERIOUS? Do you actually think "battery" = "battering"?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Dogstar at April 04, 2016 06:48 PM (NpNHd)

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