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Is There Any White Knight That Can Emerge From the Shadows at the Convention?
Imagine this plausible scenario:
Trump does not get to 1,237, and has become even more unacceptable to the party as a whole than he is now. Trump carpet bombs Ted Cruz and makes him even weaker in the general election than he is now. Kasich continues being Kasich. Assuming the convention is contested and Cruz has been too damaged to be a strong candidate (a plausible thing because you know Trump's not going down alone), and assuming the party rewrites the rules (as you know it would, in this situation) to permit delegates to choose virtually anyone-- Can anyone think of anybody who would 1, be broadly acceptable to the party regulars, and 2, look good in a general election, that can suddenly emerge from the wreckage? And no, not Paul "Professor Open Borders" Ryan. F*** that guy especially. And No... Not other people who have already been rejected soundly by voters, like Rubio and Jeb. Boy the Establishment just never gives up, huh?Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: kathysaysso at March 31, 2016 02:54 PM (43OZ6)
Posted by: Flyguy at March 31, 2016 02:54 PM (8DgV/)
/sarc
Posted by: Jimmy don\'t play that at March 31, 2016 02:54 PM (F5OyJ)
Herb Cain.
Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 31, 2016 02:54 PM (IV1em)
Posted by: professor_chaos at March 31, 2016 02:54 PM (ESWK5)
Posted by: kathysaysso at March 31, 2016 02:55 PM (43OZ6)
Posted by: SwansonNation at March 31, 2016 02:55 PM (1oKaO)
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 31, 2016 02:55 PM (fQ/0p)
Posted by: Anti-Hill at March 31, 2016 02:55 PM (3aBcq)
Posted by: xav at March 31, 2016 02:55 PM (LzauL)
I can't think of a single Republican right now who is worth a damn.
I'll probably write-in Rush or Mark Levin.
Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 31, 2016 02:55 PM (IV1em)
Just wait for them to push JEB! back down our throat. I would think that Perry or Walker might be strong candidates considering the executive experience and the conservative bonafides.
Posted by: Flyguy at March 31, 2016 02:55 PM (8DgV/)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 31, 2016 02:56 PM (2PHKP)
true, but who knows. maybe there's someone who could unite people.
especially as the prospect of a White House, COngress, and Supreme Court ALL controlled by socialists looms.
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 02:56 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: mov at March 31, 2016 02:56 PM (kUmUV)
Posted by: SJWs 'R' Us at March 31, 2016 02:56 PM (DN9jO)
Posted by: just wait, you won't believe what happens next at March 31, 2016 02:56 PM (IQI2h)
Trump or Cruz. Anyone else is a suicide attempt by the GOPe.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 31, 2016 02:56 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: johnd01 at March 31, 2016 02:56 PM (ukNFU)
I have a plan...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 31, 2016 02:56 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 31, 2016 02:56 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: SH at March 31, 2016 02:56 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: krakatoa at March 31, 2016 02:56 PM (RCS9o)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 31, 2016 02:56 PM (2PHKP)
Bobby Jindal & his horrible speaking skills?
Rick Perry and his awful statements?
Bring back Rubio cuz Hillary will look ancient next to him?
Posted by: Anti-Hill at March 31, 2016 02:57 PM (3aBcq)
Posted by: Bob Dole at March 31, 2016 02:57 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: johnd01 at March 31, 2016 02:57 PM (ukNFU)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 31, 2016 02:57 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: wooga at March 31, 2016 02:57 PM (LUtLU)
He's nearly as bad as Trump.
I like Walker, Perry & Jindal.
My guess a brokered convention would not nominate anyone who ran in 15-16.
My guess would be Mitch Daniels of Indiana
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 31, 2016 02:57 PM (voOPb)
I keep saying, we ain't voting our way outta this one.
Battlefield's in the minds, hearts, and souls, and we keep surrendering the field.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 31, 2016 02:57 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: Arson Wells at March 31, 2016 02:57 PM (/E+t2)
Or maybe a political hybrid.
WalkerPerryJindel
It's like puppymonkeybaby, except with nuclear codes.
Posted by: ZBBMcFate at March 31, 2016 02:57 PM (k7D+q)
Posted by: eman at March 31, 2016 02:57 PM (mR7Es)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 31, 2016 02:57 PM (w4NZ8)
Nikki Haley?
Anything wrong with her?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 31, 2016 02:56 PM (1xUj/)
I've got a short memory, but something about a short guy and a flag.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 31, 2016 02:57 PM (2PHKP)
Anything wrong with her?
...
woman who delivered the Pro-Amnesty SOTU rebuttal against the party?
No, I can't think of anything wrong with her.
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 02:57 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Pissed Off Citizen at March 31, 2016 02:57 PM (DN9jO)
Posted by: JeffreyL at March 31, 2016 02:57 PM (mXv3y)
Posted by: SH at March 31, 2016 02:58 PM (gmeXX)
I also think that Cruz is sharp enough to pull in more delegates in the second or third round and pull it off.
I don't think the GOPe will be able to put in a nominee that is not Trump or Cruz without fatally damaging the GOP.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 31, 2016 02:58 PM (Qvgg/)
Also available for parties and bar mitzvahs.
Paba free and dishwasher safe for 2016!
Posted by: Cap City Daydrunk at March 31, 2016 02:58 PM (O50yS)
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at March 31, 2016 02:58 PM (fYFzF)
Posted by: krakatoa at March 31, 2016 02:56 PM (RCS9o)
We would have early morning chuckles besides on Saturdays?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 31, 2016 02:58 PM (voOPb)
Fresh face? We don't have any, we just have retreads.
Posted by: Anti-Hill at March 31, 2016 02:58 PM (3aBcq)
Posted by: Blano at March 31, 2016 02:58 PM (uiVGU)
Samuel Alito
Maureen Scalia
and if we need to have someone who ran, Carly Fiorina - everyone's 2nd choice
Posted by: KK at March 31, 2016 02:58 PM (5WKRz)
Who's looking for a White Knight?
Posted by: ThePrimoridalOrderedPair at March 31, 2016 02:58 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Cap City Daydrunk at March 31, 2016 02:58 PM (O50yS)
Posted by: mrp at March 31, 2016 02:58 PM (JBggj)
Posted by: E.T. at March 31, 2016 02:58 PM (yq4gk)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 31, 2016 02:59 PM (ODxAs)
He dropped out the race and never won a single delegate. The counter-argument from the Cruz and Trump voters will be hard to dispute:
So, Walker gets handed the nomination by quitting at the start of the race, while Cruz and Trump fight like hell and take their lumps for months and months, only to have Walker and fresh and pristine step back into the race at the last moment and waltz across the finish line in first place? UNFAIR.
That's all true. It will feel like theft.
At this point, only Cruz or Trump deserve the nod, because only they have fought for it to the end.
Posted by: zombie at March 31, 2016 02:59 PM (jBuUi)
You know who this benefits.....
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at March 31, 2016 02:59 PM (ByqK7)
If it's not Trump or Cruz, the dominant antiestablishment vote getters, it's nobody. I sit it out.
Posted by: mega machines at March 31, 2016 02:59 PM (fbovC)
Posted by: Mitchell at March 31, 2016 02:59 PM (BvNzB)
Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at March 31, 2016 02:59 PM (kXzR8)
Posted by: ZBBMcFate at March 31, 2016 03:00 PM (k7D+q)
No, I can't think of anything wrong with her.
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 02:57 PM (dciA+
Skirt. Pulse.
Bandersnatch's undivided attention
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 31, 2016 03:00 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Dixie at March 31, 2016 03:00 PM (ltDdP)
Posted by: Arson Wells at March 31, 2016 03:00 PM (/E+t2)
Go google Alamo In the Ardennes.
You sofa surfers don't understand that the military and national security is at stake.
Posted by: Unfettered Power at March 31, 2016 03:00 PM (mcm0N)
So, Walker gets handed the nomination by quitting at the start of the race, while Cruz and Trump fight like hell and take their lumps for months and months, only to have Walker and fresh and pristine step back into the race at the last moment and waltz across the finish line in first place? UNFAIR.
what does fair have to do with it?
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 03:00 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Bob Dole! at March 31, 2016 03:00 PM (+Fl7e)
Posted by: mrp at March 31, 2016 03:00 PM (JBggj)
Jeff Sessions could work.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 31, 2016 03:01 PM (2PHKP)
I don't think they care. They are both extraordinarily short sighted and vitally invested in the status quo.
If they can't be the ones running the party, I believe they would rather burn it down.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at March 31, 2016 03:01 PM (4nmNX)
Posted by: phxjay at March 31, 2016 03:01 PM (IHK5T)
Posted by: Unfettered Power at March 31, 2016 03:01 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: spypeach at March 31, 2016 03:01 PM (nyYhO)
No, I can't think of anything wrong with her.
Eh. I have an insufficient grievance harbor.
So amnesty is the only issue and nobody passes the test?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 31, 2016 03:01 PM (1xUj/)
I can't believe I'm going to say this, but Ted "Boring-Ass" Cruz is the best of the bunch.
The man lacks the 'essential spark' to win a national election.
Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 31, 2016 03:01 PM (IV1em)
Posted by: Jon Huntsman at March 31, 2016 03:01 PM (dJmIF)
i think if this keeps getting bad it could be anyone who promises some degree of psychic relief to an emotionally battered party
frankly I liked wooga's "Clint Eastwood" suggestion
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 03:01 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Kevin Canuck at March 31, 2016 03:01 PM (Hlv/w)
what does fair have to do with it?
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Exactly. Besides, Cruz will likely back him strongly. Albeit with some concessions.
Posted by: SH at March 31, 2016 03:01 PM (gmeXX)
If we are going to bring in someone new they have to have to be known nationwide and at least bring some enthusiasm.
That man is not Scott Walker.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 31, 2016 03:01 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 31, 2016 03:01 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 31, 2016 03:02 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 31, 2016 03:02 PM (Qvgg/)
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 31, 2016 03:02 PM (fQ/0p)
Posted by: steevy at March 31, 2016 03:02 PM (B48dK)
Also: Children.
Krakatoa 2016. "You know. For kids."
http://tinyurl.com/jar93dc
Posted by: krakatoa at March 31, 2016 03:02 PM (RCS9o)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 31, 2016 03:02 PM (9krrF)
And he would have to support keeping the immigration gates open so that we can keep wages down and businesses can hire the workers they need for less-than subsistence wages.
What we need is someone who can simultaneously .be on both sides of this issue and on many other issues. We need is someone who can be FOR the little guy and also knows how to cut deals among the fat cats. Someone who is both pro-choice and for punishing women who get abortions.. Someone who can argue against H1B visas and at the same time expalin why we need them to staff sorts in Florida.
Who out there can do all this?
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at March 31, 2016 03:02 PM (HqpV0)
I can't think of anyone the GOPe would put up there in a contested convention who I would want to vote for.
And that's kind of bad.
Posted by: Witchdoktor at March 31, 2016 03:02 PM (PFy0L)
Colin Powell - he's still highly regarded by both sides and hasn't rubbed too many people the wrong way.
Posted by: Dixie at March 31, 2016 03:00 PM (ltDdP)
Ah yes. Colin Powell. Who voted for Obama.
WTF? Did you leave your sarcasm indicator off?
Posted by: kathysaysso at March 31, 2016 03:02 PM (43OZ6)
Bandersnatch's undivided attention
Who told you I was that shallow?
Was it everything I've ever said?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 31, 2016 03:02 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 31, 2016 03:03 PM (KUaJL)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 31, 2016 03:03 PM (2PHKP)
Posted by: MATT DAMON!!! at March 31, 2016 03:03 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: ZBBMcFate at March 31, 2016 03:00 PM (k7D+q)
Condi's an incompetent POS who all but endorsed Barky in 2008 while she was sitting in Bush's cabinet.
I'm still trying to figure out what her qualifications were to get her into any of the positions she had. She was, allegedly, a Russian expert but totally screwed up everything with the Russians during her tenure as SecState.
Posted by: ThePrimoridalOrderedPair at March 31, 2016 03:03 PM (zc3Db)
If Trump (or Cruz) get the majority, the party is bound to nominate him. Whether it's a good idea or not.
If the party bypasses the system and arbitrarily names someone else, you disenfranchise all of those voters and kiss a united republican party goodbye forever.
And you know, maybe that's would be a good thing at this point.
Because think about it, if that scenario happens, it will only be the establishment telling their base to F off and electing THEIR guy, some open borders corporate donor shill RINO who can't wait to run into Harry Reid's office with his pants down.
Posted by: Agent Cooper at March 31, 2016 03:03 PM (0q1Bt)
Anything wrong with her?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 31, 2016 02:56 PM (1xUj/)
Yeah, Vic pretty much convinced me she's got to be the #1 possible choice here. Which is why I don't expect they'll allow it.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2016 03:03 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: E.E. Knight at March 31, 2016 03:03 PM (7b4Mw)
Posted by: SH at March 31, 2016 03:03 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 03:03 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 31, 2016 03:01 PM (ODxAs)
Wow. That glorious face. I think we have a winner.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 31, 2016 03:03 PM (uURQL)
Sure contested conventions have happened before, but that was in an era with much less communication.
With 24/7 news stations, blogs, social media, everyone who is interested is much more savvy than before.
So, NO. There is no white knight that would get the "party" and I quote that for a reason, to coalesce behind.
The delegates and actual card carrying party members may well be happy with a convention pick not on the ballot, but the supporters of those candidates who were rejected will likely walk away from the process, and cause a landslide win for the weakest Dem candidate since Carter.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 31, 2016 03:04 PM (kKHcp)
Posted by: ace
It has this to do with it:
Many "GOP voters" will just stay home if they feel the party insiders simply ignored the primary votes and undemocratically selected their Chosen Man.
The disgust quotient will go through the roof, even if the Chosen Man is "acceptable."
Americans hate being disrespected and deceived. A party-chosen non-Cruz non-Trump nominee will feel like a stab in the back. At that point, I would actually have to concede that Hillary will win easily, simply by default because only Democrats will show up at the polls.
Posted by: zombie at March 31, 2016 03:04 PM (jBuUi)
Say what you want about that shit show but the race started turning after that speech. It didn't just happen.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 31, 2016 03:04 PM (/tuJf)
This ain't no fun anymore
Posted by: Jimmy Gee at March 31, 2016 03:04 PM (rJfD1)
Posted by: just wait, you won't believe what happens next at March 31, 2016 03:04 PM (IQI2h)
Posted by: donna at March 31, 2016 03:04 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 31, 2016 03:04 PM (4/i9Y)
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 03:01 PM (dciA+)
He's eighty something gazillion years old, and getting leftier each year.
Posted by: kathysaysso at March 31, 2016 03:04 PM (43OZ6)
Then I remembered that this is the GOP, and they'll probably pick Romeny again.
I don't trust our side with this sort of n-dimensional chess. Our side couldn't win at checkers.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 31, 2016 03:05 PM (KUaJL)
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2016 03:05 PM (g8Hfr)
Hell with her.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 31, 2016 03:05 PM (2PHKP)
Posted by: redbanzai at March 31, 2016 03:05 PM (3JA/M)
Posted by: SaveFarris at March 31, 2016 03:05 PM (OzJKq)
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at March 31, 2016 03:05 PM (HqpV0)
What the hell is wrong with Cruz anyway?
Why does he insist on staying the course? Is he comfortable in 2nd place? Do something different Ted! Do something, anything. Make news. Say something bold.
The man sucks as a candidate and is giving you a preview of what he'll do as the nominee trailing Hillary Clinton in the polls -- nothing.
Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 31, 2016 03:05 PM (IV1em)
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2016 03:06 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: brak at March 31, 2016 03:06 PM (MJuTN)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 31, 2016 03:06 PM (FkBIv)
in my hypothetical, it appears that Trump continues to be Trump -- unelectable -- and Trump damages Cruz so much he's almost as unelectable.
Staring down the gun of the White House, Congress, and Supreme Court all in socialist hands, you continue to demand that we go forward and Lose Graciously?
I'm getting a little desperate.
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 03:06 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: t-bird at March 31, 2016 03:06 PM (F1ndw)
Posted by: blaster at March 31, 2016 03:06 PM (2Ocf1)
Posted by: steevy at March 31, 2016 03:06 PM (B48dK)
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2016 03:06 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 31, 2016 03:06 PM (4/i9Y)
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 03:03 PM (dciA+)
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He simply failed in running in this election. Otherwise, he has been a pretty good success. Your pickings are pretty slim if you are looking for someone outside of Trump and Cruz who did well this year. Did Walker fail to catch on - of course. But that doesn't mean he wouldn't be a decent choice to heal the wounds of a broken convention. He is still the guy that took on the progressive left in WI. He is the one who battled in election after election there.
Posted by: SH at March 31, 2016 03:06 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Arson Wells at March 31, 2016 03:06 PM (/E+t2)
No. There isn't such a person. They have to nominate someone, but he won't have appeal beyond the establishment.
Posted by: zmdavid at March 31, 2016 03:06 PM (xqRaG)
He will bring us closer than ever, as we huddle for warmth.
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 31, 2016 03:06 PM (fQ/0p)
Whose name has not been floated by one pundit or another?
Have any of these people who have been suggested publically said they would like to be nominated this way?
This whole panic-stricken stop-the-Trump-monster is getting kind of silly.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Source for Your Primary Season Melee Weapons! at March 31, 2016 03:06 PM (hLRSq)
Judging by some of the words flung about around here, I'm going to go out on a limb and say "when hell freezes over".
The varying R factions seem to hate each other with more venom than they dislike the D's.
I don't remember folks taking candidate A or B so personally last time around.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at March 31, 2016 03:06 PM (4nmNX)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 31, 2016 03:07 PM (Qvgg/)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:07 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Other at March 31, 2016 03:07 PM (F1ndw)
He's better than Hillary, Sanders, Cruz, Trump, or Kasich...and he has proven his ability to win national elections.
Just thinking outside the box here....
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at March 31, 2016 03:07 PM (HqpV0)
Posted by: donna at March 31, 2016 03:07 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: zombie at March 31, 2016 03:04 PM (jBuUi)
Trump would do 3rd party at that point, I think. Would be interesting if he could beat the GOPe or even beat out the Dems.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 31, 2016 03:07 PM (uURQL)
She is prisoner to PC in some ways to be certain but she is pretty, has ran a state budget effectively, and has a functioning hoo hoo that still appeals to humans.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2016 03:07 PM (g8Hfr)
The man sucks as a candidate and is giving you a preview of what he'll do as the nominee trailing Hillary Clinton in the polls -- nothing.
we should get on board with Trump, the guy who's at 75% unfavorable with women and 60% unfavorable iwth men.
he's a real winner. He's so good at persuading people with his Good Brain and his Best Words.
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 03:07 PM (dciA+)
I think this is also the plan for addressing the $120 trillion in unfunded mandates --
"and then a miracle happens".
Posted by: GnuBreed TC>>DT>>>>HC/BS at March 31, 2016 03:07 PM (gyKtp)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:07 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: brak at March 31, 2016 03:06 PM (MJuTN) "
By gawd King, he just broke Hillary in half with the Stunner! She has a family, King!
Posted by: Jim Ross at March 31, 2016 03:07 PM (4/i9Y)
I am not kidding when I say this in the current media age we live in, but if Bill Whittle was nominated, I think he could win. His commercials are already done, just replay youtubes.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 31, 2016 03:07 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at March 31, 2016 03:07 PM (4nmNX)
Condoleezza Rice perhaps.
Posted by: Arson Wells at March 31, 2016 03:06 PM (/E+t2)
Birmingham's own. I'd vote for her. Democrats would say she's not black enough and has a fake woman card or something.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 31, 2016 03:07 PM (2PHKP)
Don't let people like Donald run?
Become like the Dems with super-delegates all up in their business?
Everything will be fine as long as we get our own way?
The inmates are running the asylum and nothing is going to change after this either way.
Posted by: Flyguy at March 31, 2016 03:07 PM (8DgV/)
Posted by: SH at March 31, 2016 03:08 PM (gmeXX)
The DC GOP set the table for the hatred IN the party by deciding they hated their tea party wing more than Obama.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2016 03:08 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Source for Your Primary Season Melee Weapons! at March 31, 2016 03:06 PM (hLRSq)
This is an existential threat. Obama? Milk his bad record for a few election cycles and increase the campaign donation coffers.
Trump is the Real Enemy.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 31, 2016 03:08 PM (uURQL)
Nikki Haley already showed us she'll bend like the willow reed. She'd never stand up to the Democrats in Washington and she'd give us a lecture about how good it is to get along. No thanks.
Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 31, 2016 03:08 PM (IV1em)
Posted by: Arson Wells at March 31, 2016 03:08 PM (/E+t2)
Posted by: John 'Bravefart' Kasich at March 31, 2016 03:08 PM (gyKtp)
Posted by: Kodos, Kang 2016 at March 31, 2016 03:08 PM (yfObW)
Jim Gilmore
Get in line, pal.
Posted by: Other
We are the other people.
You're the other people too.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 31, 2016 03:09 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: beeblebrox has 2 heads at March 31, 2016 03:09 PM (wPIZb)
Posted by: steevy at March 31, 2016 03:09 PM (B48dK)
If we are going to bring in someone new they have to have to be known nationwide and at least bring some enthusiasm.
That man is not Scott Walker.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 31, 2016 03:01 PM (/tuJf)
Nationwide... hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmmmmm
Posted by: Fivehead Peyton at March 31, 2016 03:09 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 31, 2016 03:09 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Liz O at March 31, 2016 03:09 PM (SWEn6)
Posted by: akak at March 31, 2016 03:09 PM (S8xs0)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:09 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Arson Wells at March 31, 2016 03:09 PM (/E+t2)
Posted by: jackson6644 at March 31, 2016 03:09 PM (LdQY0)
Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2016 03:09 PM (Fmupd)
======================
Of course it didn't. It wasn't the speech. Nobody gives a flip for Mitt outside of Utah. Now, the mountains of SuperPac money raised for anti-Trump ads, now that was something.
Posted by: mrp at March 31, 2016 03:09 PM (JBggj)
Heh...no the problem is Jombo geraghty hating "trumpkins" more than Socialists, La raza, and BLM...
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2016 03:10 PM (g8Hfr)
They make rule changes.
"...The Rules Committee doesn't get to pick and choose from among the previous rules; it has to come up with a complete package from scratch every four years. The 115th Congress cannot operate until it first passes a rules package, and we're the same way, " Spicer says. Each convention passes its own new set of rules, and they can be similar to prior ones, or they can be vastly different. It depends on what the delegates want..."
tinyurl.com/hcex8fb
Posted by: just wait, you won't believe what happens next at March 31, 2016 03:10 PM (IQI2h)
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 31, 2016 03:10 PM (UypUQ)
Posted by: @votermom at March 31, 2016 03:10 PM (nbrY/)
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Gotta admit, I'm not estimating him very high. His political instincts seem to be wanting at this point. I think he has a future, but it is a more distant future.
Posted by: SH at March 31, 2016 03:10 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: MathMom at March 31, 2016 03:10 PM (L4G9B)
--
It was also at that time that Rubiato dropped out.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 31, 2016 03:10 PM (Qvgg/)
If he gives scankles a Stone Cold Stunner at the debate, he has my vote in perpetuity.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at March 31, 2016 03:11 PM (4nmNX)
Doesn't matter. Whigs 2.0 shall join their forefathers.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 31, 2016 03:11 PM (uURQL)
Alan West has a bimbo problem, or at least I have heard that. Plus. Michelle Fields. So. No. Sadly
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:11 PM (zOTsN)
From the cursory research I've done, party officials meet first behind closed doors and decide on rules.
Posted by: Arson Wells at March 31, 2016 03:11 PM (/E+t2)
Who needs anti-Trump ads... He's a one Man Anti-Trump ad....
Posted by: donna at March 31, 2016 03:11 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Pipe Holder at March 31, 2016 03:11 PM (Z/diL)
Pee Wee Herman only rubbed himself the wrong way.
Posted by: mega machines at March 31, 2016 03:11 PM (fbovC)
Posted by: L, Elle at March 31, 2016 03:11 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Source for Your Primary Season Melee Weapons!
trump is an unelectable thug-clown who has worse favorability with women than Willie Horton.
So his nomination delivers not just the WH but the Congress and SC to the socialists.
So tell me how he's NOT the real enemy.
This idea that somehow this babbling, repulsive idiot is going to take a Smart Pill one day and become a good candidate is insane.
People are who they are. We know who trump is. He is a spoiled brat-bitch lazy moron who couldn't be bothered to open up a book even with the country on the line.
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 03:11 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Bee at March 31, 2016 03:11 PM (w2wkZ)
Posted by: bosk at March 31, 2016 03:11 PM (n2K+4)
Posted by: phxjay at March 31, 2016 03:11 PM (IHK5T)
He can bring in the FDR fans, being a wheelie-charioteer and all that.
Plus, a long and steady conservative record, as well as being 3x more articulate than Gov. Perry, withal.
Plus, Texas! All the better to watch effete liberal editor's haids go all 'splodey, n' such.
And he could always run over Hitlery's walker. My money's on The Chariot in that case.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at March 31, 2016 03:12 PM (McRlu)
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I'm a big fan of Mitch. Unfortunately, he hasn't run for a campaign in a while. I do think you would need someone who has at least run somewhat recently.
Again, I always get back to Perry or Walker.
Posted by: SH at March 31, 2016 03:12 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Fritz at March 31, 2016 03:12 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:12 PM (zOTsN)
It has been done before in the name of victory(think Kennedy-Johnson).
It is victory we want-- right Ace?
Or is it victims?
Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at March 31, 2016 03:12 PM (3ZttN)
Posted by: Mr. Brown at March 31, 2016 03:12 PM (iB5ig)
Posted by: Tim Tebow at March 31, 2016 03:12 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: kathysaysso at March 31, 2016 03:12 PM (43OZ6)
Hell with her.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 31, 2016 03:05 PM (2PHKP)
I thought she was pro-illegal mexican too, but was told that's not the case.
As for the Confederate flag deal, I have to admit I don't really care.
Posted by: Fivehead Peyton at March 31, 2016 03:12 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 31, 2016 03:12 PM (Qvgg/)
As disappointing as a Republican primary season!
Posted by: RioBravo at March 31, 2016 03:12 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: Roland THTG at March 31, 2016 03:13 PM (QM5S2)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2016 03:13 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: PALINISTO! at March 31, 2016 03:13 PM (mEs7I)
Posted by: Bigby's Fist, Punching 2x As Hard at March 31, 2016 03:13 PM (3ZtZW)
He can bring in the FDR fans, being a wheelie-charioteer and all that.
Dammit Jim! Why didn't I think of that? I bring shame to the Lone Star State.
Posted by: Arson Wells at March 31, 2016 03:13 PM (/E+t2)
Republicans lost the Senate and House last October. Trump had nothing to do with it.
Besides, Republican control of the House and Senate is in name only. Democrats, with a handful of Republicans, are passing all the bills.
Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 31, 2016 03:13 PM (IV1em)
Posted by: Dixie Wetsworth, Florida at March 31, 2016 03:13 PM (BUIPT)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 31, 2016 03:13 PM (MSiSP)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 31, 2016 03:13 PM (2PHKP)
Romney's been leading #NotTrump for at least a couple of months including by using Rubio as his Rent Boy. Another tell was his "there are some jobs no American will do" joke at a Republican event leading into the the War on Wives.
You know Romney wants it and would have run if the GOPe Inner Circle hadn't decided it was Jeb's turn.
Romney's argument is that he won more delegates and more voters than anyone -- albeit in 2012 -- and that the 17 who ran in 2016 are by definition losers. He'll say that he nearly beat the charismatic Obama and is the one to beat Hillary. Add Kasich as VP to win OH and PA.
It's either that or Romney's plan has been to push Ryan. But Romney is up to something.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2016 03:13 PM (r1fLd)
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 03:11 PM (dciA+) "
Willie Horton has his number retired by the Tigers. He's a perfectly cromulent fellow around women as far as I know.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 31, 2016 03:13 PM (4/i9Y)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:13 PM (zOTsN)
Sub-Zero from Mortal Kombat?
Posted by: brak at March 31, 2016 03:13 PM (MJuTN)
Posted by: FaCubeItches at March 31, 2016 03:13 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: steevy at March 31, 2016 03:13 PM (B48dK)
Posted by: Mitt Romney at March 31, 2016 03:14 PM (o9vm9)
Scott Sterling knows how to take a punch and get up. He's a fighter!
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 31, 2016 03:01 PM (ODxAs)
With a face like a brick wall! A brick wall that feels pain, and cries a LOT!!!
Posted by: Insomniac at March 31, 2016 03:14 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Tim in GA at March 31, 2016 03:14 PM (v28Hg)
I want Mike Rowe.
Posted by: Tim in GA at March 31, 2016 03:14 PM (v28Hg)
Ooooooooohhhhhhh.....Winner.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 31, 2016 03:14 PM (2PHKP)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:14 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: garrett at March 31, 2016 03:14 PM (mEs7I)
Posted by: L, Elle at March 31, 2016 03:15 PM (2x3L+)
a spoiled brat-bitch lazy moron who couldn't be bothered to open up a
book even with the country on the line.
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 03:11 PM (dciA+)
Don't hold back, Ace!
Posted by: kathysaysso at March 31, 2016 03:15 PM (43OZ6)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 31, 2016 03:15 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Anderson Cooper at March 31, 2016 03:15 PM (mEs7I)
>AlaBAMA at March 31, 2016 03:05 PM (2PHKP)
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She didn't piss on the elongated battle flag, she just pissed on anyone who cares about the flag.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 31, 2016 03:15 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: CJ at March 31, 2016 03:15 PM (9KqcB)
Posted by: Pastafarian at March 31, 2016 03:15 PM (LqrRo)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 31, 2016 03:16 PM (MSiSP)
Holy shit! I nearly pissed myself with laughter reading that!
Posted by: Arson Wells at March 31, 2016 03:16 PM (/E+t2)
What if the GOP were to nominate Obama for a third term?
Have to admit, he does work well with a Republican Congress...
Posted by: t-bird at March 31, 2016 03:16 PM (F1ndw)
Posted by: mrp at March 31, 2016 03:16 PM (JBggj)
Posted by: brak at March 31, 2016 03:13 PM (MJuTN) "
That Outworld birth certificate is going to be a problem, but I think we can deal with it.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 31, 2016 03:16 PM (4/i9Y)
Keeping the dream alive.
Posted by: Bee at March 31, 2016 03:11 PM (w2wkZ)
*******
LOL! There's another thing Trump crushed like a walnut under Chris Christie's ass.
Posted by: Unfettered Power at March 31, 2016 03:16 PM (mcm0N)
I'm surprised no one mentioned Ben Sasse yet. Totally new, but what do you have to lose? He's actually a real human being who knows what you know and doesn't sound like an android saying it on television.
Posted by: A Liberal AoS Reader, Really! at March 31, 2016 03:16 PM (7BtbV)
That's pretty much guaranteed whichever major party wins. The Dems want to kamikaze the country on afterburner. The GOP is content to do it at Full Military Power.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at March 31, 2016 03:16 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: Doom Rider at March 31, 2016 03:16 PM (0LQ4f)
Posted by: AtlasMugged at March 31, 2016 03:16 PM (K1eTv)
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Is he eligible - age wise?
Too bad he's not about 44 - would be a better choice.
Posted by: SH at March 31, 2016 03:17 PM (gmeXX)
Too much baggage with that whole tea-bagging his college trainer fiasco.
Posted by: Fritz at March 31, 2016 03:17 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: said no one... EVAH! at March 31, 2016 03:17 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Grimaldi at March 31, 2016 03:17 PM (OkOX2)
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Tom Cotton is the jackass you are looking for!
Posted by: RioBravo at March 31, 2016 03:17 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 31, 2016 03:17 PM (RcpcZ)
Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 31, 2016 03:17 PM (HSmrB)
Posted by: A Liberal AoS Reader, Really! at March 31, 2016 03:17 PM (7BtbV)
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at March 31, 2016 03:17 PM (dF04M)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 31, 2016 03:13 PM (2PHKP)
Except feeding pizzas to stoners in Denver. And I do have that whole sitting on a chick's face in the locker room thing hanging out there.
Posted by: Fivehead Peyton at March 31, 2016 03:17 PM (TOk1P)
If that happens, whomever comes out with the party's nomination must be someone that will excite the base for it to be successful. Anything less and it's time to dig the grave of the GOPe. Though that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing at this point in time.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 31, 2016 03:17 PM (jxbfJ)
And, if they claim otherwise, they'd be lying.
There is no acceptable republican. All republicans at that level are part of the Uniparty/Globalist cabal that seeks to undermine America at every turn.
So, to answer your question, no - there is no "white knight". Sure, there may be someone that a majority of "r" voters buy as a "white knight", but that person will, if elected, simply continue all of the policies of the last 16 years.
there is almost no hope for America. Because not enough "conservative" voters have woken up to the reality. And, if they haven't at this point, they never will.
Posted by: Golden at March 31, 2016 03:17 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at March 31, 2016 03:17 PM (PjWy4)
the party regulars, and 2, look good in a general election, that can
suddenly emerge from the wreckage?
Valma Kittington
Not really, just like the idea of lefty heads asplodin' if the R's put up a black woman as their candidate.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 31, 2016 03:17 PM (4WhSY)
Of course!
Unfortunately, they're all dead.
AND FUCK YOUR RULES ACE (please don't ban me) JINDAL JINDAL JINDAL JINDAL JINDAL
*breathes into paper bag*
Okay, okay, I'm better now.
Ummmm.
Mitch Daniels? *draws hearts* Though, frankly, if I were him I'd be all yeah no I was already not running because of what you vicious pieces of river bottom sewage were saying about my wife and that had nothing to do with Trump.
Hmmmm.
*ponders*
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at March 31, 2016 03:17 PM (mf5HN)
This idea that somehow this babbling, repulsive idiot is going to take a Smart Pill one day and become a good candidate is insane.
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 03:11 PM (dciA+)
He's your real enemy, ace.
He's not my enemy, and it's very helpful to see which people I thought were on my side ... aren't.
Break open the Valurite, more campaign entertainment is incoming.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 31, 2016 03:17 PM (uURQL)
I'll need a Johnson running mate tho,
Weiners and Johnsons for America
Finally the fucking we all deserve.
I dunno, might need some work on that but it's a good start.
Posted by: Anthony Weiners Ghost at March 31, 2016 03:18 PM (N1ljp)
Posted by: dc at March 31, 2016 03:18 PM (oY/R7)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 31, 2016 03:18 PM (JU+4H)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 31, 2016 03:18 PM (2cS/G)
He's hardcore on the #NeverTrump side. The Trumpers would never coalesce behind him. Nice pick though.
Posted by: Arson Wells at March 31, 2016 03:18 PM (/E+t2)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:18 PM (zOTsN)
Maybe.
No one else comes to mind.
Posted by: we're doomed no matter what at March 31, 2016 03:18 PM (bGLSw)
Staring down the gun of the White House, Congress, and Supreme Court all in socialist hands, you continue to demand that we go forward and Lose Graciously?
I'm getting a little desperate.
Posted by: ace
At that point we're talking about "degrees of unelectability."
In your scenario, both Trump and Cruz are unelectable, but a substitute nominee would ALSO be unelectable.
It has also been forcefully argued that both Hillary and Sanders are unelectable too.
I agree with all of it. Trump, Cruz, Hillary and Sanders are completely unelectable, as would be any substitute GOP nominee.
BUT, if they're ALL unelectable, then suddenly they're all electable again, because ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO WIN.
THis will be the "anti-election" to beat all previous "anti-elections," when 90% of the voters will be voting AGAINST the greater of the two devils in the race.
Posted by: zombie at March 31, 2016 03:18 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Hercules Rockefeller at March 31, 2016 03:18 PM (qf/3k)
168 comments and only one 'Racist' tag assigned to White Knight?
As disappointing as a Republican primary season!
Posted by: RioBravo at March 31, 2016 03:12 PM (NUqwG)
Because that dead horse has been beaten into a fine red mist.
Posted by: kathysaysso at March 31, 2016 03:18 PM (43OZ6)
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 31, 2016 03:08 PM (uURQL)
The whole exercise is getting silly. I stick by that assessment. Want to get out of the silliness and into a spot where people can start turning down the volume on their emotions - and it is the panic-stricken emotions that are running everything right now - and be productive? Start asking real questions:
(1) What issues are the issues this race is turning on?
(2) No, not the issues you want them to be, but the issues that are.
(3) What candidates are believable on those issues?
(4) Can these candidates close a sale?
(5) Do these suggested candidates have any actual constituency in the party?
(6) Have these candidates the fire within to go out and win this?
(7) Have these candidates agreed to this abuse before you float their names?
That's just in my mind since we are no longer doing a bar-stool exercise but are actually trying to put a real operational campaign plan together at the beginning of April.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Source for Your Primary Season Melee Weapons! at March 31, 2016 03:18 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 31, 2016 03:18 PM (MIKMs)
Nope. That was weeks later after Florida. Romney actually mentioned that people should support Rubio in Florida.
I'm not saying that Romney's speech turned the entire race but it was the first stake in the ground and opened the door for other #neverTrump people to jump onboard.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 31, 2016 03:18 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: pep at March 31, 2016 03:19 PM (3e8zv)
Also: Children.
Krakatoa 2016. "You know. For kids."
http://tinyurl.com/jar93dc
Posted by: krakatoa at March 31, 2016 03:02 PM (RCS9o
I'll work for ya in WI
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 31, 2016 03:19 PM (voOPb)
Well, maybe the door should be on your back side then.
Posted by: Arson Wells at March 31, 2016 03:19 PM (/E+t2)
Posted by: Dude That Always Yells Earnhardt at March 31, 2016 03:19 PM (1JnAL)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:19 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 31, 2016 03:20 PM (rQnnW)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at March 31, 2016 03:20 PM (/WPPJ)
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Exactly Ace. To remind you of your own words: People may not ever admit they were wrong, but they can readily identify with being LIED to, and they never forgive that.
Posted by: Bigby's Fist, Punching 2x As Hard at March 31, 2016 03:20 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 31, 2016 03:20 PM (RcpcZ)
Posted by: scofflaw_x at March 31, 2016 03:20 PM (y9ZJX)
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In a year where Trump is leading the GOP nomination, anything is possible.
Just playing Ace's game, that Trump and Cruz are not going to win ... then who.
There are only 4 possible choices in my book: Kaisich, Ryan, Perry, and Walker.
The latter two seem like the better bet to me.
Posted by: SH at March 31, 2016 03:20 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Pastafarian at March 31, 2016 03:15 PM (LqrRo)
_____
Nah, this whole coronation business is toxic enough, they wont make it even more risky by drafting someone who was explicitely rejected by the voters. Even the GOP isnt THAT dumb.
Posted by: Dixie Wetsworth, Florida at March 31, 2016 03:20 PM (BUIPT)
Posted by: garrett at March 31, 2016 03:21 PM (mEs7I)
Posted by: scofflaw_x at March 31, 2016 03:21 PM (y9ZJX)
Posted by: Flyguy at March 31, 2016 03:21 PM (8DgV/)
Posted by: Steve Holt at March 31, 2016 03:21 PM (mEs7I)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 31, 2016 03:21 PM (MSiSP)
AHEM!
I cuckolded him.
//San Fran Nan
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2016 03:21 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Source for Your Primary Season Melee Weapons! at March 31, 2016 03:21 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 31, 2016 03:21 PM (RcpcZ)
Posted by: derit at March 31, 2016 03:22 PM (OC+TJ)
Posted by: Hodor at March 31, 2016 03:22 PM (mEs7I)
Posted by: Plato at March 31, 2016 03:22 PM (UsCnO)
Too bad he's not about 44 - would be a better choice.
Posted by: SH at March 31, 2016 03:17 PM (gmeXX)
He's 45 counting by islamic years. The Constitution doesn't specify Julian or Gregorian years and we all know that Thomas Jefferson had a koran ...
Posted by: ThePrimoridalOrderedPair at March 31, 2016 03:22 PM (zc3Db)
I know, it's like that GOPe money man said: all he has is a lot of votes.
Posted by: blaster at March 31, 2016 03:22 PM (2Ocf1)
Tim Scott.
Posted by: RichieC at March 31, 2016 03:22 PM (838ff)
Posted by: nckate at March 31, 2016 03:22 PM (A/qli)
He's not my enemy, and it's very helpful to see which people I thought were on my side ... aren't.
really? You're surprised that people aren't jumping on your "marriage means a woman consents for life to sex whenever her husband wants it" platform?
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 03:22 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 31, 2016 03:22 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Carmen M Fabella at March 31, 2016 03:22 PM (RHjCR)
Posted by: Alex Trebeck at March 31, 2016 03:22 PM (8ZskC)
We nominate a Frankenstein monster out of the best parts of the GOP governors:
Bush's money connections
Perry's swagger
Christie's loud mouth
Huckabee's piety
Kasich's faux sincerity
Walker's day manager skills
Jindal's night manager skills
Pataki's funereal calm
and Jim Gilmore's enormous schwanzstucker
Its twooo, its twooooooo!
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2016 03:22 PM (r1fLd)
Posted by: tonynoboloney at March 31, 2016 03:23 PM (02AXE)
She didn't grow. She didn't rise to the challenge.
She would get creamed in the general.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 31, 2016 03:23 PM (1xUj/)
what does fair have to do with it?
Fuck fair.
If this is how we roll, then there is NO reason to have primaries.
Then there is NO reason to be in the Stupid Party...except now we can call it the stupid, evil party.
Why stay?
For the fiscal sanity?
Coherent foreign policy?
I'll just go dem and line up at the trough.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 31, 2016 03:23 PM (326rv)
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If we add that parameter to the hypothetical, then I'd say it will be Ryan.
Posted by: SH at March 31, 2016 03:23 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at March 31, 2016 02:58 PM (fYFzF)
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Because the Black Knight had his arms and legs eaten off by a killer bunny.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 31, 2016 03:23 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:23 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Amichel at March 31, 2016 03:23 PM (6rBpp)
Not a few months ago but they are having buyer's remorse right now.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 31, 2016 03:23 PM (MSiSP)
Posted by: Alix at March 31, 2016 03:23 PM (MpfHK)
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 03:23 PM (dciA+)
One better confuse the f*ck out of the left...
Nominate Barney Zanders
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2016 03:23 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 31, 2016 03:24 PM (hpmES)
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 31, 2016 03:24 PM (RcpcZ)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 31, 2016 03:24 PM (P/aDH)
Posted by: Joe Biden at March 31, 2016 03:24 PM (mEs7I)
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 31, 2016 03:24 PM (4/i9Y)
Sarah Huckabee Sanders
It's like cross-party incest.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 31, 2016 03:24 PM (NUqwG)
don't want to win as badly as they want to maintain the status quo --
their places at the feeding trough -- then it is clear there is only one
outcome at the Convention. Paul Ryan is the nominee, or someone like
him, then blame Trump! Cruz! for the 2016 Presidential loss.
Posted by: Carmen M Fabella at March 31, 2016 03:22 PM (RHjCR)
Yep.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2016 03:24 PM (TOk1P)
Honestly, I don't know of anyone in the GOP who could excite at this point. Just not Hillary.
Posted by: Hillary! at March 31, 2016 03:24 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Qoheleth at March 31, 2016 03:24 PM (iIzG7)
just a dream, I suppose: the GOPe will use that logic and tell us that that's why we need to run Ryan.
Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at March 31, 2016 03:25 PM (qSIlh)
Trump is on a downward trajectory and he's going to get manhandled as far as the convention goes.
His best bet was to get 1,237 delegates. Unfortunately his enormous Wharton brain and classy mouth are preventing this.
Posted by: Arson Wells at March 31, 2016 03:25 PM (/E+t2)
BUT, if they're ALL unelectable, then suddenly they're all electable again, because ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO WIN.
THis will be the "anti-election" to beat all previous
"anti-elections," when 90% of the voters will be voting AGAINST the
greater of the two devils in the race.
Posted by: zombie at March 31, 2016 03:18 PM (jBuUi)They're only unelectable to the people who are informed. To the un/misinformed anyone is electable.
Posted by: zmdavid at March 31, 2016 03:25 PM (xqRaG)
Posted by: bestie21 at March 31, 2016 03:25 PM (HUeC4)
This is why I'm the thinking the GOPe will select George Clooney.
Posted by: Fritz at March 31, 2016 03:25 PM (UzPAd)
Bush's money connections
Perry's swagger
Christie's loud mouth
Huckabee's piety
Kasich's faux sincerity
Walker's day manager skills
Jindal's night manager skills
Pataki's funereal calm
and Jim Gilmore's enormous schwanzstucker
You forgot sanctimoniousness
Posted by: Rick Santorum at March 31, 2016 03:25 PM (8ZskC)
http://observer.com/2016/03/
what-the-gop-should-know-now-about-
warren-g-hardings-presidential-win-in-1920/
Posted by: ArthurK at March 31, 2016 03:25 PM (h53OH)
Posted by: Jean at March 31, 2016 03:25 PM (WHCGI)
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No way they would run Ryan if they thought they would lose. Why weaken him for no purpose. If they need a standin to minimize the losses - Mitt is the guy. He has no future. But you wouldn't saddle the current Speaker with a Presidential loss for so little.
Posted by: SH at March 31, 2016 03:25 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at March 31, 2016 03:25 PM (1JnAL)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:07 PM (zOTsN)
I love Congressman Christ Stewart. Author, vet, conservative, smart. Virtually unknown outside of Utah though.
Posted by: LizLem at March 31, 2016 03:25 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Unfettered Power at March 31, 2016 03:25 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: Skip at March 31, 2016 03:25 PM (fizMZ)
Because the Black Knight had his arms and legs eaten off by a killer bunny.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 31, 2016 03:23 PM (iQIUe)
____________________________
Boy does that hit close to home...
Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 31, 2016 03:25 PM (HSmrB)
Posted by: RichieC at March 31, 2016 03:25 PM (838ff)
then again, he'd be a terrible candidate.
but I see him making moves.
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 03:25 PM (dciA+)
The only way I see this working is if the trump/Cruz ticket combined and I do not see that happening.
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:26 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Unfettered Power at March 31, 2016 03:26 PM (mcm0N)
Yes, and the reason was the crazed orange asshole with a wombat on his head, sucking all of the oxygen out of the race, with the assistance of the liberal media determined to once again choose our candidate for us.
But OK, let's say Walker is out. Fuck it, let's go full retard. It's got to be a celebrity, apparently, because otherwise, establishmentGOPeTheyTerkErJerbsWharbggll.
Chuck Fucking Norris.
Posted by: Pastafarian at March 31, 2016 03:26 PM (LqrRo)
Posted by: scofflaw_x at March 31, 2016 03:26 PM (y9ZJX)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 31, 2016 03:26 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: scofflaw_x at March 31, 2016 03:26 PM (y9ZJX)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 31, 2016 03:26 PM (2PHKP)
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 03:26 PM (dciA+)
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So what? Everyone has a knock against them. Playing your game, you have to pick someone. You have to look past some faults.
Posted by: SH at March 31, 2016 03:26 PM (gmeXX)
So beyond giving a sh-t it ain't funny.
The guy who actually wins the most delegates is a human dumpster fire; the Tommy Wiseau of politics.
The alternative; someone picked by the Republican Establishment -- an organizational dumpster fire; the Comcast Customer Service Department of politics.
Shotgun to the face or shotgun to the balls.
Some choice.
Posted by: V the K at March 31, 2016 03:26 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Arson Wells at March 31, 2016 03:25 PM (/E+t2)
That sentence sounds exactly like someone else I know but I just can't put my finger on who that is ...
Posted by: ThePrimoridalOrderedPair at March 31, 2016 03:26 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 03:23 PM (dciA+)
Plus he would have to run an uphill battle against the notion that he's smart. Not dumb. Not like everybody says.
Tough sell.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2016 03:27 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Teh GOP at March 31, 2016 03:27 PM (pMGkg)
Posted by: Qoheleth at March 31, 2016 03:27 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: Moon Colonies at March 31, 2016 03:27 PM (mEs7I)
Posted by: mrp at March 31, 2016 03:27 PM (JBggj)
Who does he have pictures of?
Posted by: blaster at March 31, 2016 03:27 PM (2Ocf1)
Posted by: Qoheleth at March 31, 2016 03:24 PM (iIzG7)
Put together!
Posted by: LizLem at March 31, 2016 03:27 PM (hvf9s)
I have no interest in nominating Trump but I cannot believe we're arrived at rooting for backroom deals to override the electorate.
I am "glad" (entirely the wrong word but lack a better one) that Cruz benefits from the LA shenanigans but really... that's bullshit.
I am so sick and tired of this two party stupidity. It's brought us nothing but disaster. Every damn election we have to hear about "electability" and everyone's raving about making sure the "party" has someone that is acceptable to everyone else. Everyone who get's elected is whipped and threatened to support The Party over their constituents, or else. Meanwhile we all go on pretending that we still live in a Democracy, much less a Republic which ceased to exist decades ago and going nuts every four years about who the next farce is who will "Save the Republic!"
It's a joke. There is no part of any of this that even remotely resembles the Constitution anymore. There is no consent of the governed much less government by the people. The saddest part of all of it is that the vast majority of people don't care and are running head long into making things even worse.
Am I exaggerating? Pick whatever candidate you like from any of the past or current presidential elections in the past several decades. Go down the list of their positions and promises and tell me which of them actually falls within "solemnly swear to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution or the United States" or anything resembling powers or responsibilities allocated to the Executive Branch?
Every day in this cycle, we have people who have had it on with the GOP on the basis of Constitutionality... yet cheer to candidates that are promising to dramatically expand Executive powers even further.
You know, I kind of hope that the convention goes full retard and Trump ends up running third party. I hope the same happens with the Democrats and Bernie get's the majority of the regular delegates and it turns into a shit show about super delegates. I hope we go in the fall with all four of the current leading candidates running against one another under different banners while the parties nominate some other imbeciles.
Enough with the farce. Bring on the next civil war already and let's get it started with the Parties that brought this whole shit show about.
Posted by: Damiano at March 31, 2016 03:27 PM (XItbt)
Posted by: George Caesar at March 31, 2016 03:27 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 31, 2016 03:27 PM (RcpcZ)
Gen. Mathis?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 31, 2016 03:20 PM (rQnnW)
I saw an article hypothesizing this earlier this week. Intriguing. Honorable, awesome leader, more foreign policy experience than anyone else including Hildebeast. Would need to know more, but I could get behind him if he ran.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 31, 2016 03:27 PM (jxbfJ)
Posted by: Unfettered Power at March 31, 2016 03:27 PM (mcm0N)
Didn't Lincoln win on the 7th ballot?
Posted by: Arson Wells at March 31, 2016 03:28 PM (/E+t2)
Posted by: Anthony Weiners Ghost at March 31, 2016 03:28 PM (N1ljp)
It is mathematically impossible for Trump to win as a 3rd party candidate.
See Eno's column at Conservative Review:
"Trump Independent Run All But Impossible, Ineligible in at Least 13 States"
Now consider if Trump still does run 3rd party and thus, no one gets to 270 electoral college votes in the general.
It goes to the House to decide between Hillary, Trump, and Cruz. No others may be considered.
Food for thought.
Posted by: beeblebrox has 2 heads at March 31, 2016 03:28 PM (wPIZb)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 31, 2016 03:28 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Lisa Morecokeski (R-AK) at March 31, 2016 03:28 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Eric at March 31, 2016 03:28 PM (JlJW4)
Posted by: FaCubeItches at March 31, 2016 03:13 PM (rznWS)
So let it be written, so let it be done!
Posted by: joncelli, Temporarily Yul Brenner at March 31, 2016 03:28 PM (PjWy4)
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I think too may ppl hate him over social/personal stuff. I saw him live on the stump in '12 and he was fantastic. Hell, I think I even voted for him in the primary.
Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at March 31, 2016 03:28 PM (kXzR8)
Posted by: Rance Stoddard attorney at Law at March 31, 2016 03:29 PM (2cfUo)
Posted by: SH at March 31, 2016 03:26 PM (gmeXX)
Yes, but this election was driven by illegal immigration. All of the candidates had to move to a "no amnesty" position (as fake as those positions are). Trump staked his entire campaign on it and is winning. So, to pick a candidate that is bad on this particular issue would be stupid.
Not to say the GOP isn't stupid, it is.
Posted by: Golden at March 31, 2016 03:29 PM (3ZtZW)
The thought of the two of them screeching at each other for months is depressing.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 31, 2016 03:29 PM (/tuJf)
He's hardcore on the #NeverTrump side. The Trumpers would never coalesce behind him. Nice pick though.
Posted by: Arson Wells at March 31, 2016 03:18 PM (/E+t2)
*******
Jonah Goldberg ended his column the other day by saying "This ends in tears either way. Pick a side." Or something like that. I think he's probably right. If Trump doesn't get the nod, like Ace said he will go absolutely apeshit all the way to the election, and his hardcore supporters probably won't come around anyway. Might as well pick the best authentic, unspoiled conservative shot for the future, and to protect the downballot. Not sure if that's Sasse (could be), but that's the idea.
Even *I* know how ugly it will be if the GOPe throws Ryan or Romney up there, even if they don't.
Posted by: A Liberal AoS Reader, Really! at March 31, 2016 03:29 PM (7BtbV)
Posted by: garrett at March 31, 2016 03:29 PM (mEs7I)
Posted by: beeblebrox has 2 heads at March 31, 2016 03:29 PM (wPIZb)
Democracy is a lost cause at this point.
Posted by: thespellingpolice at March 31, 2016 03:29 PM (UlI/7)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 31, 2016 03:29 PM (/jecC)
Chuck Fucking Norris.
Posted by: Pastafarian at March 31, 2016 03:26 PM
You squish, the right answer to yuge is to propel the Nuge
Posted by: derit at March 31, 2016 03:29 PM (OC+TJ)
then again, he'd be a terrible candidate.
but I see him making moves.
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 03:25 PM (dciA+)
****
Yep. Great attack dog. Terrible candidate.
Posted by: Tim in GA at March 31, 2016 03:29 PM (v28Hg)
Posted by: Unfettered Power at March 31, 2016 03:29 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 31, 2016 03:29 PM (2PHKP)
Which, to many of us, IS the problem.
Professional Politicians have led this country to a place we don't want it to be...
Posted by: Don Quixote at March 31, 2016 03:29 PM (qf6WZ)
Posted by: jewells45 at March 31, 2016 03:29 PM (l/N7H)
I could go with Tom Cotton. However I think the GOPe has decided to lose and throw this to Hillary. Not kidding. She is actually their preferred candidate. They are aiming to lose with dignity, or something
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:29 PM (zOTsN)
The ONLY member of the Senate who had the brains and integrity to vote against Bob Corker's farcical enabling bill that allowed Obama and Kerry's "nuclear deal" with Iran.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 31, 2016 03:29 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at March 31, 2016 03:25 PM (1JnAL)
Yes! President Ms. Lindsay will go over to the Middle East and pound those dudes.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2016 03:30 PM (TOk1P)
Enough with the farce. Bring on the next civil war already and let's get it started with the Parties that brought this whole shit show about.
Posted by: Damiano
Seconded!
Posted by: zombie at March 31, 2016 03:30 PM (jBuUi)
I mean, I'd still stay home, probably - but I would feel a twinge of guilt.
Posted by: Witchdoktor at March 31, 2016 03:30 PM (PFy0L)
I'm getting a little desperate.
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 03:06 PM (dciA+)
The political equivalent of a "last call" booty call on a bar pay phone, if you will.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 31, 2016 03:30 PM (t06LC)
With Fiorina ...There goes the Dems' womyn-hating- GOP meme. And Christie proved he can stomp a mud hole in a GOP pretty face. So let Hill hire one of the Castro boys as her running mate and let the Fat Man do a repeat performance.
Bitch on bitch with the Fat Man for muscle.
Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at March 31, 2016 03:30 PM (3ZttN)
Posted by: dc at March 31, 2016 03:18 PM (oY/R7)
If Mattis agrees to tell the Democrats that if they fuck with him he will kill them all he can have my vote, several times.
Posted by: joncelli, Temporarily Yul Brenner at March 31, 2016 03:30 PM (PjWy4)
Likely a circle suicide for the GOP if Trump gets to 1100 or more and is not picked. All the zealots will stay home and Hill wins the election.
I don't think he'll have that many zealots left by the time the convention rolls around
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 31, 2016 03:30 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Skip at March 31, 2016 03:30 PM (fizMZ)
Posted by: Unfettered Power at March 31, 2016 03:30 PM (mcm0N)
http://tinyurl.com/lvy9sd7
Posted by: Serenity Now! at March 31, 2016 03:30 PM (BDZWU)
Yes, and the reason was the crazed orange asshole with a wombat on his head, sucking all of the oxygen out of the race, with the assistance of the liberal media determined to once again choose our candidate for us.
Chuck Fucking Norris.
Posted by: Pastafarian
That was a factor. Along with him changing his stance on amnesty and a path to citizenship. We talked about it here. At the time, we suspected that he was another one who didn't get any value for his super professional national campaign advisors.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 31, 2016 03:30 PM (326rv)
Posted by: pep at March 31, 2016 03:30 PM (3e8zv)
Hillary would be rubbing up and down the podium like a feral cat in heat.
Posted by: garrett at March 31, 2016 03:30 PM (mEs7I)
Posted by: Bigby's Fist, Punching 2x As Hard at March 31, 2016 03:31 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: RichieC at March 31, 2016 03:31 PM (838ff)
I would also say Romney/Rubio..
But, I would prefer Perry.. His background as a governor.. good solid conservative.. and just his demeanor would propel him well above Hillary in any polls.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 31, 2016 03:31 PM (so+oy)
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If you really believe that then Mitt is your man. In fact, if Mitt does get it, then you know this is their preferred strategy.
Posted by: SH at March 31, 2016 03:31 PM (gmeXX)
Seems reasonable.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 31, 2016 03:31 PM (QDnY+)
Someone is warging into Trump and making him say crazy things!!! I knew it!!!
Posted by: Trump and GoT Fan Conspiracies at March 31, 2016 03:31 PM (hvf9s)
At least FIFTY ISIS supporters are working as baggage handlers, cleaners and catering staff at Brussels airport, claim police
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 31, 2016 03:31 PM (iQIUe)
I'm really not sure why I've gotten worked up at all over this election. In the end, it won't make a damn bit of difference in a town like DC.
Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2016 03:32 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: Callista at March 31, 2016 03:32 PM (mEs7I)
Posted by: mrp at March 31, 2016 03:32 PM (JBggj)
It's going to be Romney followed by a massive loss in November.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 31, 2016 03:32 PM (JxMoP)
Likely a circle suicide for the GOP if Trump gets to 1100 or more
and is not picked. All the zealots will stay home and Hill wins the
election.
Yup. Because hurt feelz trump everything.
Posted by: pep at March 31, 2016 03:32 PM (3e8zv)
And, you have nothing to fear from my vice presidentshial pick, Lindshey Graham.
Posted by: John McCain at March 31, 2016 03:32 PM (OZmbA)
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 03:22 PM (dciA+)
Heh. It's the only way to go back to a sane implementation of marriage. But that's besides the point.
Declare war on Trump, ace. Have at it. Open hostility is is better than when you were concern trolling whether Christians could really accept Trump's faith.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 31, 2016 03:32 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: Bob at March 31, 2016 03:32 PM (FPJlY)
Posted by: Damiano
Seconded!
Posted by: zombie at March 31, 2016 03:30 PM (jBuUi)
7.62x54r is down to .35 per round.
Just sayin' is all.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 31, 2016 03:33 PM (/D5Lf)
Hell with her.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 31, 2016 03:05 PM (2PHKP)
Zactly.
To hell with her.
Posted by: Blano at March 31, 2016 03:33 PM (NHQQx)
How is Cotton on the border?
And
GOPe is going to do something to depress their own vote and throw it to Hillary. On purpose. She is thier preferred candidate
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:33 PM (zOTsN)
Sorry. Soft on immigration from a border state. He has seen the devastation first hand and he is still soft on immigration.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 31, 2016 03:33 PM (hpmES)
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2016 03:33 PM (g8Hfr)
There is no one at this point. Look at the NR articles crowing and basically telling the peasants to sit down and shut-up.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at March 31, 2016 03:34 PM (LTDSy)
Yeah. I'm going to mangle a programming reference, but he's like the off bit in a byte.
You'll get seven great Newtisms in a row, and then he Newts himself in some embarrassing way.
I think he would be an actually good president, but...
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 31, 2016 03:34 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: garrett at March 31, 2016 03:34 PM (mEs7I)
He never married and never had kids. His 40+ career has been dedicated to the art of war, which is why he's called "The Warrior Monk".
Has there ever been a lifelong bachelor elected to the White House?
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at March 31, 2016 03:34 PM (rlfds)
Posted by: scofflaw_x at March 31, 2016 03:34 PM (y9ZJX)
Shorter: California is even more boned.
Posted by: Qoheleth at March 31, 2016 03:34 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at March 31, 2016 03:34 PM (rlfds)
Imagine if the RNC just didn't put its resources behind Trump and backed Johnson instead. It would essentially become a three-way race.
Posted by: V the K at March 31, 2016 03:34 PM (O7MnT)
Morons and 'Ettes, your 2016 GOP Presidential nominee - Jim Thome.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 31, 2016 03:34 PM (4/i9Y)
1) Strongman rules with the mob. Strongman dies. Civil war to determine new strongman. Civil war weakens country in the face of foreign countries.
2) Hereditary monarchy to eliminate or reduce civil wars. Some monarchs determined by heredity are evil or embiciles. Country weakened
3) Everybody agrees to determine government by ballot.
4) Some reject the results of the ballot box and resort to thuggery.
5) Strongman rules through the mob.
Rinse, repeat.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 31, 2016 03:34 PM (Nwg0u)
'The Antonin Scalia School Of Law'.
I can see our future ..
The Barack Obama School of Occidentophobic Studies
Posted by: Sandy Burger at March 31, 2016 03:35 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Jean at March 31, 2016 03:35 PM (WHCGI)
Posted by: Qoheleth at March 31, 2016 03:35 PM (iIzG7)
If we want to lose to Hillary in what should be an election impossible to lose, we pick any of the establishment people - from Walker to Perry and everyone in between.
If we want to lose in a landslide to Hillary, we go with Cruz.
The hard core establishment republicans, those who depend on the party for their employment, lobbyists, etc. will only vote for an establishment pick, but they are a tiny number. They will end up voting for Hillary as Ace will.
We have one hope of recapturing all the disenfranchised Trump voters and the vast majority of regular republicans, along with white working democrats and a bunch of women by going with Mike Rowe.
No shit. It's the only play that makes sense and that everyone can agree on.
Posted by: jwest at March 31, 2016 03:35 PM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Rance Stoddard attorney at Law at March 31, 2016 03:35 PM (2cfUo)
Posted by: blaster at March 31, 2016 03:36 PM (2Ocf1)
Posted by: Bob Dole at March 31, 2016 03:36 PM (Nemct)
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at March 31, 2016 03:34 PM (rlfds) "
James Buchanan. So not a great track record. And some people think he might have been, you know, teh ghey.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 31, 2016 03:36 PM (4/i9Y)
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at March 31, 2016 03:34 PM (rlfds)<<<
I was trying.
Posted by: Miss Lindsey Graham at March 31, 2016 03:36 PM (H9MG5)
One major issue is the way the Electoral College works...
Most States are pretty locked in politically... so the Presidency is decided by who KowTows to the few swing states the most.... that's where they spend all their time and effort...
And the Parties WANT it this way....
What should happen is each Congressional District should get ONE Electoral vote (for who wins that district) and the whoever wins the States should get the Votes for the Senators...
Right now, because of the Bay Area and Los Angeles, my vote is taken for granted, even though MY District is pretty Conservative...
Posted by: Don Quixote at March 31, 2016 03:36 PM (qf6WZ)
It's honestly hilarious. What else can you do?
Posted by: Alex #11 at March 31, 2016 03:36 PM (EUMt/)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 31, 2016 03:36 PM (MSiSP)
Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at March 31, 2016 03:36 PM (ml1PM)
Posted by: DaveA at March 31, 2016 03:36 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: irright at March 31, 2016 03:36 PM (pMGkg)
Here's my favorite part about it: lots of lefties read his biography and said he wasn't real, no one could be that much of a hero, the Republican party had made him up.
Posted by: Wenda (sic) at March 31, 2016 03:36 PM (pZEKq)
Posted by: Abiss at March 31, 2016 03:36 PM (UsgHM)
Posted by: garrett at March 31, 2016 03:36 PM (mEs7I)
Also, the GOP is the Real Enemy. They're not getting out of this intact, and you* ought not try to save them - they are worthless, their brand is dogshit, and they'll never win another general in your lifetime. Thwart what's coming and it'll only get worse for you.
[you, your == editorial, not personal]
Posted by: Bigby's Fist, Punching 2x As Hard at March 31, 2016 03:37 PM (3ZtZW)
If the Orange Imbecile gets 1200+ delegates but loses at the convention I'll be jerking it in a circle, square and a triangle.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 31, 2016 03:37 PM (7uCni)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:37 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Skip
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Damn.
That's right near The Diamond. I used to live pretty close.
Posted by: Chi at March 31, 2016 03:37 PM (LUPlG)
Leave DC in place and it will interfere with the process. Look up the AFFH reg that just got finalized, or the EPA's shenanigans, or Mooch's school lunch crap, or...
We may well be at the point where, if DC cannot be retaken...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 31, 2016 03:37 PM (9krrF)
And I don't mean went from, "Trump ain't my first choice, but he ain't so bad," to "No, sorry I just can't." (That was my journey.)
I mean went from "Make America Great Again" to "Never Trump."
I don't think leaving a cult is that easy.
Posted by: V the K at March 31, 2016 03:37 PM (O7MnT)
Am all in for Trump. Trump or Cruz.
Any other nominee from the GOP can fuck off.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 31, 2016 03:37 PM (uURQL)
I'd really like to see a study, if one can be done honestly and accurately, of what percentage of voters are informed and go to the polling place on their own volition and what percentage are just bodies bussed in by the parties. I'm guessing the latter would be more than the former or at least an even split.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at March 31, 2016 03:37 PM (hQ4EJ)
Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 31, 2016 03:05 PM (IV1em)
er... ah... the people polling hate Cruz too, why are looking at their work for your approval?
If you believe Cruz can't do anything right to win and also believe Hillary is inevitable then accept the media has you where they want you.
Posted by: DanMan at March 31, 2016 03:37 PM (RusNE)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/07/16/
tom_cotton_a_key_house_voice_on_immigration_reform_119235.html
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 03:37 PM (dciA+)
Not that I still trust him, but I think Trey Gowdy has potential to be a good president.
My non-starter choices would be Rick Perry because he has the good sense to get good people to do the work.
Second non-starter choice would be Mark Levin because he is f--king brilliant, I think, about politics in general and the constitution in particular. If we were ever going to pick somebody who really believes the country can come back, and has ideas to make it happen, it would be Levin.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at March 31, 2016 03:37 PM (4ng05)
Posted by: jwest
No to both.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 31, 2016 03:37 PM (326rv)
Posted by: garrett at March 31, 2016 03:37 PM (mEs7I)
Posted by: zombie at March 31, 2016 03:38 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 31, 2016 03:38 PM (/tuJf)
Fuck Obama
and undoes everything he did the last 7.5 years.
And nothing else.
Then we'll all try again in 2020.
Posted by: DaveA at March 31, 2016 03:38 PM (DL2i+)
At least FIFTY ISIS supporters are working as baggage handlers, cleaners and catering staff at Brussels airport, claim police
Just trying to turn their lives around
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 31, 2016 03:38 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Amerigo Chattin at March 31, 2016 03:38 PM (drV3j)
Will this person ride a unicorn into the convention too?
>>>"... and to protect the down ballot."
I have no interest in protecting any of these jackasses. Not a single one of them.
At this point, I'd prefer to see President The Rent is Too Damn High Guy, Vice President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Commacho, Speaker Donald Trump and Supreme Court Justice Judy.
Posted by: Damiano at March 31, 2016 03:38 PM (XItbt)
Why don't we eschew the depression and watch how things play out? Or is pushing the emotional buttons in the brain too intoxicating for that?
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet - Source for Your Primary Season Melee Weapons! at March 31, 2016 03:39 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 31, 2016 03:36 PM (4/i9Y)
"might have been..."
You misspelled "definitely was."
Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2016 03:39 PM (TOk1P)
The shadow GOPe nominee is the "light of democracy that will surely shine after the Arab Spring"
Yeah, turns out that in political warfare it's the guys with the actual organization and strategy that win, despite whatever desperate wish casting might say.
Posted by: JT at March 31, 2016 03:39 PM (DcVaI)
Mark Sanford. That's him. That would change the topic.
Posted by: scofflaw_x at March 31, 2016 03:39 PM (y9ZJX)
Time to run a bore, I say!
And Jim Gilmore is the man!
After all of the excitement of Trump and the primaries, his very dullness is appealing.
He is a pleasant man, intelligent enough, and was a quite competent governor of Virginia. (Okay, okay, no one really noticed him at all when he was governor, but I take that as a plus.)
He ran on a platform of fiscal conservatism and made only one firm promise, to drastically reduce the car tax.
He kept his word.
Sure, he's GOPe, but he's not snotty or preachy about it the way Jeb!!!, Ryan, and Kasich are.
And I think he could take Virginia. (Seriously.)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 31, 2016 03:39 PM (T/5A0)
He never married and never had kids. His 40+ career has been dedicated to the art of war, which is why he's called "The Warrior Monk".
Has there ever been a lifelong bachelor elected to the White House?
Posted by: SMFH
Jesus, have 4chan start a rumor he is gay, it will be 49 state sweep.
Posted by: Jean at March 31, 2016 03:39 PM (WHCGI)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:39 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: DaveA at March 31, 2016 03:39 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: derit at March 31, 2016 03:39 PM (OC+TJ)
Posted by: JeffreyL at March 31, 2016 02:57 PM (mXv3y)
Same, except I had Perry first then Jindal. I've always really liked Cruz, but he was my third pick because talky Senator and lack of executive experience.
I'd be down with Zombie Fred Thompson at the top of the ticket.
Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 31, 2016 03:39 PM (KkVB6)
The one who couldn't beat Slow Joe in a debate.
Republicans & Independent Republicans (me) do not want that fool who isn't any better than Boner as Speaker.
Romney & I saw rumor at HA or The Right Scoop that Rick Perry didn't vote in Texas R primary so he could run as third party candidate. It was at one or both of them.
Posted by: Carol at March 31, 2016 03:39 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Serenity Now! at March 31, 2016 03:40 PM (BDZWU)
Posted by: zombie at March 31, 2016 03:38 PM (jBuUi)
Reality TV show host, dirty jobs. Shows off the hard and necessary blue collar work that gets done around the country.
Trying to restore a respect for the trades, and remind people that college is not the only career path.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 31, 2016 03:40 PM (uURQL)
the party regulars, and 2, look good in a general election, that can
suddenly emerge from the wreckage?
---
Late, so I expect this has been said a half dozen times, but...
If there were any hero in the GOP with broad support, he'd have run and no one would be talking about Trump today. The problem is anyone with an (R) after their name is tarnished by the (R) due to the party's performance in office.
Even if there was (and it would have to be like Jeff Sessions running on protecting the country from Mexico and islam himself, or someone we have fond memories of, *like* Demint or Newt), he's going to appear at the convention and have to go straight into part 2 of your question, which will immediately turn most of us off.
And he'd have to continue the anti-gope themes that took Trump to prominence, which means they'll never put him through the convention anyway.
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at March 31, 2016 03:40 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 31, 2016 03:37 PM (9krrF)
That may be so. But at the same time, the concept of the entire nation as a life-support system for DC is unsustainable. It didn't work for Rome. It didn't work for Moscow. It won't long work here.
Posted by: V the K at March 31, 2016 03:40 PM (O7MnT)
Is this a guess or is it based upon anything?
my guess (note level of spitballin') is that trump supporters would be more amenable to someone who actually ran from beginning to end over someone who got installed.
That.Is. A. Guess.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 31, 2016 03:40 PM (326rv)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 31, 2016 03:40 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Jean at March 31, 2016 03:39 PM (WHCGI)
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Exactly.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at March 31, 2016 03:40 PM (rlfds)
It's usually the 3rd or 4th place guy.
It will be Kasich if it goes to Brokered Convention.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 31, 2016 03:40 PM (0cMkb)
mike rowe hosts "dirty jobs" and has the right political/philosophical/moral position on the value of work. He almost certainly leans right. However, his actual political statements are restricted to things about work, and about the college-is-everything crowd denigrating the value of vocational training and any sort of work that isn't in an office with internet access.
apart from being a likable semi-celebrity, i can't think of any reason to think he'd be a good president, or that he has any desire to be a politiician.
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2016 03:40 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 31, 2016 03:40 PM (MSiSP)
Posted by: scofflaw_x at March 31, 2016 03:40 PM (y9ZJX)
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Hey, I'm willing to do that. Why be depressed? I'm hoping for Cruz, but would be fine if a contested convention leads to Perry or Walker or Cotton. There are a lot of variables and its a strange year. Anything is possible.
Posted by: SH at March 31, 2016 03:40 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: scorecard at March 31, 2016 03:40 PM (rnH8X)
Posted by: Chris at March 31, 2016 03:41 PM (LQPji)
Posted by: Axeman at March 31, 2016 03:41 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:39 PM (zOTsN)
Losing is easier than winning.
Losers will rather lose than win.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 31, 2016 03:41 PM (uURQL)
I am not kidding when I say this in the current media age we live in, but if Bill Whittle was nominated, I think he could win. His commercials are already done, just replay youtuHelles.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
A dream (bridge) to far... But, oh, what a dream!
Posted by: AmeriDan at March 31, 2016 03:41 PM (YLLPb)
He's got skeletons in his closet. Opera skeletons.
And a fake rubber dick.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 31, 2016 03:41 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 31, 2016 03:36 PM (4/i9Y)
"might have been..."
You misspelled "definitely was."
Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2016 03:39 PM (TOk1P)
Is it racist or homophobic to say that Barry isn't our first gay president?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2016 03:41 PM (493sH)
Posted by: Sharkman at March 31, 2016 03:41 PM (QWtgr)
Nicki Hailey - Good record, polished, not perfect on issues but not terrible, appealing contrast to the Beast, and I personally would enjoy seeing her on TV more.
Kentucky Congressman Thomas Massie - Impressive guy. Will go as far as he wants. Would he want to? No idea.
Posted by: RichieC at March 31, 2016 03:41 PM (838ff)
Posted by: Schaeffer at March 31, 2016 03:42 PM (8t5CA)
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens
Ah, OK. I don't watch TV, which explains why I've never heard of him.
If he gets the nod, I predict Hillary will win 100% of the electoral college.
Posted by: zombie at March 31, 2016 03:42 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Mike Rowe 2016! at March 31, 2016 03:42 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 31, 2016 03:42 PM (vvmPQ)
Posted by: scofflaw_x at March 31, 2016 03:39 PM (y9ZJX) "
Sure, why not? A Mark Sanford / Larry Craig ticket. Maybe Mark Foley can be their campaign manager.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 31, 2016 03:42 PM (4/i9Y)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 31, 2016 03:42 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: bretzysdude at March 31, 2016 03:43 PM (l7LiB)
Posted by: zombie at March 31, 2016 03:38 PM (jBuUi
That's what makes him the perfect candidate.
Who the fuck ever heard of Barack Obama before the election?
Rowe has the looks, voice, demeanor and he can think on his feet. Best of all he's a blank slate that everyone can project their best hopes on.
That's what it takes to win.
Posted by: jwest at March 31, 2016 03:43 PM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: TedCruzLegThrill at March 31, 2016 03:43 PM (VekM5)
Posted by: concrete girl at March 31, 2016 03:43 PM (ceWrl)
So I'll just say Muppet Walter Screaming. Our mascot.
Everybody thinks everyone else is delusional and the only cure is to scream louder.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 31, 2016 03:43 PM (wB8Tg)
Obama snorted contemptuously and told Gates to implement the plan anyway.
Gates did. It didn't work.
It got a bunch of American servicemembers killed and maimed to no productive end whatsoever.
If Gates had just refused and resigned at the outset, I'd be inclined to back him. After what actually did happen, no.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 31, 2016 03:43 PM (noWW6)
Re: Ben Sasse - Yeah, there's someone for whom I previously had some mild respect and nope. Nope nope nope nope nope.
Once again, I expect that those who are in public life comport themselves with more dignity and class than I do on here. If you don't? Then I will presume you want to be treated like just another blog commenter.
Bluntly, I would value most of the Horde above nearly anyone in elected office.
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at March 31, 2016 03:43 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 31, 2016 03:43 PM (MSiSP)
Posted by: zombie at March 31, 2016 03:38 PM (jBuUi)
He used to have a show "Dirty Jobs". He maintains a generally neutral official stance on politics but has been a major drum beater for telling whiners on all sides to STFU, go out and get a job that actually produces something, live within your means and earn your way up the ladder by hard work (and until then, be proud of hard work, even if it's shoveling shit).
Honestly, I love the guy.
Posted by: Damiano at March 31, 2016 03:43 PM (XItbt)
The fact he doesn't want the job qualifies him for it IMHO...
that is how low the career political class and let's be honest Trump *is* a politician he just bought pols has sunk in my eyes.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2016 03:43 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: johnd01 at March 31, 2016 03:43 PM (ukNFU)
462 Nikki Haley?
Anything wrong with her?
Flagged herself out of the race before leaving the pits.
Posted by: DaveA at March 31, 2016 03:39 PM (DL2i+)
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Yup. She's shown herself to be very weak-kneed and prone to shitting all over the people who voted her into office. I have been very disappointed in her.
Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2016 03:43 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: Speaker Paul Ryan at March 31, 2016 03:44 PM (LYCUN)
Anything wrong with her?
Flagged herself out of the race before leaving the pits.
Pulled a Danica Patrick. Crashed and burned.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 31, 2016 03:44 PM (hpmES)
However, I totally cannot believe that the GOP has any sort of plan for addressing the anger that made Trump possible, much less the challenge of wooing disgruntled Trump voters to support whoever they would replace him with.
The Leadership of the GOP is incapable of strategic thought.
Posted by: V the K at March 31, 2016 03:44 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 31, 2016 03:44 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Sambo at March 31, 2016 03:44 PM (CwNIZ)
Posted by: derit at March 31, 2016 03:44 PM (OC+TJ)
apart from being a likable semi-celebrity, i can't think of any reason to think he'd be a good president, or that he has any desire to be a politiician.
Posted by: ace
That explains a lot.
Sounds like he would be a "single-issue" candidate -- praising blue-collar jobs. He'd win on that front, but surely would get sliced and diced and shredded on every other policy front. Hillary would eviscerate him.
Posted by: zombie at March 31, 2016 03:44 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 31, 2016 03:45 PM (Qvgg/)
Should be a fun convention.
Posted by: SH at March 31, 2016 03:45 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 31, 2016 03:45 PM (4ErVI)
So... she should become a Republican Senator, is what you're saying.
Posted by: V the K at March 31, 2016 03:45 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: randy teddy is perv at March 31, 2016 03:45 PM (RZbLX)
Posted by: fightwinger at March 31, 2016 03:45 PM (sQQU0)
Still lol@this blog treating Trump as maybe-not-unelectable until right after Rubio dropped out, btw.
Posted by: Observer at March 31, 2016 03:45 PM (WD2tM)
Obama snorted contemptuously and told Gates to implement the plan anyway.
Gates did. It didn't work.
It got a bunch of American servicemembers killed and maimed to no productive end whatsoever.
If Gates had just refused and resigned at the outset, I'd be inclined to back him. After what actually did happen, no.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 31, 2016 03:43 PM (noWW6)
A lot more people needed to tell Barry to go fck himself. What was he going to do? Cry into his pillow or call them a racist. Either way the country would have been much better off if people stood up to the queen
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2016 03:45 PM (493sH)
lately but based on her overall record she is the best and most
conservative Republican available."
Amnesty squish.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 31, 2016 03:45 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Yankee: ROTOR SELF-WINDING at March 31, 2016 03:45 PM (mZS3c)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2016 03:41 PM (493sH)
When in doubt, assume both.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2016 03:45 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Will "Sacred Honor" Folks at March 31, 2016 03:45 PM (dciA+)
Wanting to close the DC Metro for maintenance is suspicious.
I wonder if there hasn't already been several DC attacks and the information is being stored with FDR's wheelchair and Hillary's walker.
They hit Brussels. DC would have to be as high or higher on their list.
Posted by: scorecard at March 31, 2016 03:45 PM (rnH8X)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 31, 2016 03:46 PM (NOIQH)
1. There are over 100 elected members to the convention committee. Many will be in Cruz's camp. They won't change this rule and even if they did it would likely never be changed in favor of someone who didn't run in the primaries.
2. It probably doesn't make any difference anyway since the delegates themselves vote on things like rule 40 (it was amended from 5 states to the 8 state threshold last time around by the delegates, not the convention committee.)
3. Even Rince Priebus said he thought it was unlikely the delegates would alter Rule 40.
I don't think they will be changed unless Cruz doesn't get 8 states (he should have this by next week though), and Trump doesn't get to 1237.
Posted by: beeblebrox has 2 heads at March 31, 2016 03:46 PM (wPIZb)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 31, 2016 03:46 PM (MSiSP)
And if Hills is not indicted, we riot! Because:
National Security Matter!
Benghazi Lives Matter!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 31, 2016 03:46 PM (iQIUe)
He's not an enemy at all. He's a murder weapon - nothing more. He's the instrument to destroy the GOP, and he's perfect at doing it.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at March 31, 2016 03:47 PM (rznWS)
the party regulars, and 2, look good in a general election, that can
suddenly emerge from the wreckage?
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On a similar topic, didja see you can now buy Unicorn Kisses flavored seltzer? See WZ, scroll down.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 31, 2016 03:47 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Jackie Treehorn at March 31, 2016 03:47 PM (mEs7I)
WHAT?! For shame.
Enjoy.
https://www.ted.com/talks/mike_rowe_celebrates_dirty_jobs?language=en
Posted by: LizLem at March 31, 2016 03:47 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at March 31, 2016 03:47 PM (dQJCS)
The ultimate coup would be if he could get Jeff Sessions as his running mate, but that's less likely
At a certain point, if trump starts polling in the high 30's against Hillary he'll be removed one way or another.
Posted by: Lex at March 31, 2016 03:47 PM (B/caQ)
Posted by: The Svengali-Perot Society at March 31, 2016 03:47 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Mike Rowe 2016! at March 31, 2016 03:42 PM (H9MG5)
It's the most humane way to do it.
And he's manly enough that it's not gay.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 31, 2016 03:47 PM (uURQL)
Haley is pro amnesty and took a piss on the Confederate flag to appease the BLM mob. She also went down on Mario.
Hell with her.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 31, 2016 03:05 PM (2PHKP)
I know she pissed on the flag but I do not remember her being pro-amnesty.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 31, 2016 03:47 PM (vvmPQ)
For 6 months, right (I was locked out of WashPost site)???
Yeah, not suspicious at all.
Especially considering that there's a metro stop a mere two blocks north of the WH.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 31, 2016 03:47 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: FaCubeItches at March 31, 2016 03:47 PM (rznWS)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 31, 2016 03:43 PM (MSiSP)
To a 19 year old. The girl who had been his former ward.
Not ghey. Just a pedo.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2016 03:47 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Crrr6 (hotair refugee) at March 31, 2016 03:47 PM (Vqcn4)
Posted by: garrett at March 31, 2016 03:48 PM (mEs7I)
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As opposed to the plans from the prior seven years that were a Yuuuuge success!
Posted by: RioBravo at March 31, 2016 03:48 PM (NUqwG)
he might well go Independent. If that happens, many of cultists will
follow. The results will be very, very bad for the country.
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Not if he has to spend his own money. Waste of cash for a guaranteed loss.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 31, 2016 03:48 PM (Qvgg/)
there's a simple solution to this dilemma:
and one that they've used before.
They need to replay Reagan/Bush with Cruz.
Sure, they don't get what they want with Cruz.
But, he's part of the Party, so that's a minor win for them.
And just like with Reagan, they know that after 8 years of Cruz, they can have 4-8 years of the
Bush-like Substance as Prez to reset things back to their way of liking.
We win as we get a real conservative. Plus, if he follows Reagan's basic road map,
we get an awesome economy for roughly 30 years until the GOPe and Dims finally load on enough BS to fuck it up.
Really, this is their only intelligent play. And one that lets them carry both the House and Senate as well.
Buuuuuuut, they're too stupid to go this route.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 31, 2016 03:48 PM (0cMkb)
Maybe not the hero we need. The hero we deserve.
Batman/Dent 2016. Because at this point a fictional character is better than we have.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 31, 2016 03:48 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Tilikum KAW SPI at March 31, 2016 03:49 PM (u0kqM)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 31, 2016 03:49 PM (P/aDH)
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 31, 2016 03:49 PM (RcpcZ)
Posted by: LizLem
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Why would I watch that, when I could be watching 'Dancing With the Stars'?
Posted by: LIV at March 31, 2016 03:49 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at March 31, 2016 03:49 PM (hQ4EJ)
I could vote for Tom Cotton. Debates with Hillary in email and Benghazi! Oh my
Good on the border, as far as I can tell. Great on national security
Needs a veep strong on economics
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:49 PM (zOTsN)
Too many bridges have been burned.....and they know for a fact now how much they are hated by the Republican party.
So Cruz will have to run against Hill without them.
Posted by: Pam at March 31, 2016 03:49 PM (cF0hS)
Posted by: RichieC at March 31, 2016 03:49 PM (838ff)
If immigration is not dealt with, then Balkanization of the Formerly United States will be the Issue.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 31, 2016 03:49 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: garrett at March 31, 2016 03:49 PM (mEs7I)
Posted by: randy teddy is perv at March 31, 2016 03:49 PM (RZbLX)
Maybe not the hero we need. The hero we deserve.
Batman/Dent 2016. Because at this point a fictional character is better than we have.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 31, 2016 03:48 PM (t06LC)
Adam West with Burt Ward as his VP. Quick to the Bat Wheelchairs!!!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2016 03:49 PM (493sH)
comparatively?
Yes.
Obama's "Surge" failed because of shit RoE.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2016 03:49 PM (g8Hfr)
To a 19 year old. The girl who had been his former ward.
Not ghey. Just a pedo.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2016 03:47 PM (TOk1P)
Wait, Wut? You can do that?
Posted by: Bill Clinton at March 31, 2016 03:50 PM (t06LC)
If he picked Cruz or somebody very wonkish ala Dick Cheney to sooth the "too inexperienced cries" he could pull it off. Whether he could talked into any such thing is another matter entirely.
Posted by: Palerider at March 31, 2016 03:50 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: Buzzsaw
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It's escapism.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 31, 2016 03:50 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: blaster at March 31, 2016 03:50 PM (2Ocf1)
Posted by: Judge Elihu Smails, RNC Chairman at March 31, 2016 03:50 PM (iynDC)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 31, 2016 03:49 PM (P/aDH)
I'm discussing it because I've had a hard week of work, and I'm sitting here now without any pressing concerns. So yeah.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2016 03:50 PM (TOk1P)
Another pretty serious choice for me would be Glenn Reynolds.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at March 31, 2016 03:50 PM (4ng05)
so, it is highly likely that a large swath of Trump voters will not vote for said "white knight", which will doom that person as a candidate.
It's also questionable, at this point, whether these voters - myself included - will vote for any down-ticket GOP candidates.
I see no difference between the GOP and the DNC - and before people start lecturing me - I'm talking about actual actions - not rhetoric. This claim that the GOP will accomplish this or that conservative goal is not supported by any historical evidence. Which brings me back to the first point - the GOP is in complete denial about what created Trump's success.
And, I'm not claiming Trump is conservative. I'm arguing that voters are fed up with being lied to about every single issue by the GOP. I'm arguing that voters are tired of being called racists by "conservatives" and the GOP for not wanting an amnesty and for wanting border security.
Everyone who is so upset about Trump's success is whistling past the graveyard. Stopping Trump wins you nothing. It solves none of the problems that led to Trump's success. Likely it will exacerbate those problems. Coupled with the derision aimed at people supporting Trump and why would anyone in that camp vote GOP again?
It is you who are cutting off your nose to spite your face. You claim to want to "save the party" by defeating Trump, but all you are doing is exacerbating the problem.
And again - I don't claim Trump is conservative or even a great candidate. But he has been successful for a reason. And, despite what you believe, it is not because everyone who supports him is an idiot or racist or whatever else you tell yourselves.
Posted by: Golden at March 31, 2016 03:51 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: One-Eyed Cat Peeping in the Seafood Store at March 31, 2016 03:51 PM (aeVIR)
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 31, 2016 03:48 PM (t06LC)
Hrm.
"I am Batman"
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/16/politics/donald-trump-iowa-state-fair/
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 31, 2016 03:51 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: garrett at March 31, 2016 03:51 PM (mEs7I)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 31, 2016 03:51 PM (P/aDH)
I'm still wondering how they would do that. If Trump gets to 1237 then they can't stop him. If he doesn't then the delegates will vote for Cruz to be the nominee on the 2nd ballot.
They just will.
The rules won't be be changed to allow someone like Rubio or Kasich on the ballot so Cruz will be the nominee if Trump can't get a majority on the 1st ballot.
Posted by: beeblebrox has 2 heads at March 31, 2016 03:51 PM (wPIZb)
*********
I'm old enough to remember when a certain Anchor Spinner--Michelle Malkin wanted to impeach a wartime president over port security. John Kerry actually ran on that.
Then ruined Perry over the immunizations. Fools a lot of people that little Liberal does.
Posted by: Dick Nixon hates Twitter and Does Not Use It at March 31, 2016 03:51 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: blaster at March 31, 2016 03:50 PM (2Ocf1)
But he could keep it going for 4 hours
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2016 03:51 PM (493sH)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:51 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: steevy at March 31, 2016 03:13 PM (B48dK)
I went out and bought one in that bitch's honor.
Posted by: Blano at March 31, 2016 03:51 PM (uiVGU)
Sheriff David Clarke.
Carly for VP.
Posted by: FEDUP at March 31, 2016 03:51 PM (Tw6RS)
Trump is conning everyone,saying one thing to the New York Times and to the base another.
Posted by: Lex at March 31, 2016 03:52 PM (e6bkB)
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2016 03:49 PM (g8Hfr)
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Sure. Victory was just around corner number 5 'til Obama blew it.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 31, 2016 03:52 PM (NUqwG)
In my book, that makes him the best possible candidate for anything since George Washington.
Posted by: Damiano at March 31, 2016 03:52 PM (XItbt)
I was actually told via a phone conversation from a Convention of States captain in Michigan that they were voting for Hillary if Trump got the nomination. Truth.
Posted by: tonynoboloney at March 31, 2016 03:52 PM (02AXE)
Hillary says she has a "real" grandchild, to contrast with Bernie who has grandchildren by adoption and by marriage.
http://bit.ly/1Op4etV
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 31, 2016 03:52 PM (1xUj/)
Not ghey. Just a pedo.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2016 03:47 PM (TOk1P)
Wait, Wut? You can do that?
Posted by: Bill Clinton at March 31, 2016 03:50 PM (t06LC)
Not if you're already married, fake Bill. If that's the case, just fly to somebody's island, where you can have all the underaged poon you can afford. And you can, indeed, afford it.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2016 03:52 PM (TOk1P)
Both young, with conservative street cred, and Cotton's a combat vet. Both are probably more acceptable to GOPe than Cruz, but have been in DC briefly enough to have not gotten much establishment stink on them.
Of the two, I'd pick Sasse because he's so damn articulate on constitutional conservatism, and I think he DGAF about having a lengthy DC career and would be willing to roll the dice.
Posted by: prayerborne at March 31, 2016 03:52 PM (2dcM4)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:52 PM (zOTsN)
He'll tape the Democratic strategy meetings and deflate the wheels on Hillary's Hoveround. Win at any cost.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 31, 2016 03:52 PM (4/i9Y)
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I cannot imagine any set of circumstances where Scarlett Johannson does not look good.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 31, 2016 03:53 PM (PNcou)
doesn't get 8 states (he should have this by next week though), and
Trump doesn't get to 1237.
Posted by: beeblebrox has 2 heads at March 31, 2016 03:46 PM (wPIZb)
I don't think Trump (or Cruz) gets to 1237 but that doesn't mean the rules have to change. It just means it will go to multiple ballots.
I agree with the rest of what you said but will note that there should be a rule change to rule 40(d) and hopefully will be. 40(d) doesn't even allow the votes for candidates that did not meet the 8 state majority rule in 40(b) to be announced and counted. Call it the Willard spite rule and kick it to the curb.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 31, 2016 03:53 PM (3JA/M)
Posted by: Palerider at March 31, 2016 03:50 PM (dkExz)
Can't wait for the transcripts from his alleged sexual assault during his time at Tenn. to be read aloud on the news around the clock.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 31, 2016 03:53 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: ima dumbfuck at March 31, 2016 03:54 PM (m/Gc2)
He's the reconstituted version of Romney with some enchiladas on the side
You know, the candidate you've been pushing as the second coming and only person that can beat Hillary.
Geez- who are they polling anyway to determine Cruz could beat Hillary?
Trump is the only guy whose general election chances are being stomped by an unholy coalition of Democrats, Establishment types ans so called conservatives. Oh yeah and that woman faking she was battered who is now being back up by a prosecutor that is a Hillary benefactor.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 31, 2016 03:54 PM (390ue)
Caveat: I've been off the GOPe reservation since 05/05/11
Posted by: DocJ at March 31, 2016 03:54 PM (zrsn3)
Posted by: Golden at March 31, 2016 03:51 PM (3ZtZW)
That's a bingo! And not just the Vichy GOP ...
Posted by: ThePrimoridalOrderedPair at March 31, 2016 03:54 PM (zc3Db)
Kurt Schlichter/Milo Yiannopoulis
There would be stereo 'lamentations of their women' and riots nonstop.
Posted by: Al at March 31, 2016 03:54 PM (Y9gDM)
Posted by: V the K at March 31, 2016 03:54 PM (O7MnT)
She is such an AWFUL candidate.
So tone deaf, stiff, screechy, etc.
How is the GOP not eating her freakin' lunch?????
Posted by: Lizzy at March 31, 2016 03:54 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: blaster at March 31, 2016 03:50 PM (2Ocf1)
But he could keep it going for 4 hours
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2016 03:51 PM (493sH)
No, he couldn't. Five minutes after the polls closed in the east, Clitton was announced as having been reelected.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2016 03:54 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 31, 2016 03:53 PM (PNcou)
30 years and Botox. Lots of Botox.
You'll always have Avengers.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 31, 2016 03:55 PM (uURQL)
It's usually the 3rd or 4th place guy.
It will be Kasich if it goes to Brokered Convention.
Posted by: naturalfake
Egad that's depressing.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 31, 2016 03:55 PM (326rv)
Posted by: Darren at March 31, 2016 03:55 PM (oE+6d)
I miss them. I am sick of Rush & I love Levin, but listening to him raises my blood pressure.
I won't listen to Boston's Howie Carr, because it's a 4 hour Trumpfest & I'm pissed off at that station for dumping both Limbaugh & Levin.
Posted by: Carol at March 31, 2016 03:55 PM (sj3Ax)
First off, this is not a year that a politician is going to win in. So, if your favorite candidate has held public office and has a record, you need to move on.
Second, the vast majority of voters don't vote on issues. They vote for the tallest, best looking, best smile, person they most want to have a beer with, etc. Sure, you want someone who shares your view on narrow policy issues, but you're only 5 or 10% of the electorate.
Third, when the dust settles on the these primaries, pretty much everyone on our side is going to be damaged to one extent or another. Rowe would be untouched.
Fourth, his Q rating is through the roof. No one dislikes him, so he'll probably take every state.
Posted by: jwest at March 31, 2016 03:55 PM (Zs4uk)
I'm still wondering how they would do that. If
Trump gets to 1237 then they can't stop him. If he doesn't then the
delegates will vote for Cruz to be the nominee on the 2nd ballot.
They just will.
The rules won't be be changed to allow someone like Rubio or Kasich
on the ballot so Cruz will be the nominee if Trump can't get a majority
on the 1st ballot.
Posted by: beeblebrox has 2 heads at March 31, 2016 03:51 PM (wPIZb)
This.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 31, 2016 03:55 PM (3JA/M)
1) He's actually a Republican who donated to both McCain and Romney.
2) He knows, and more importantly Hillary knows, she's guilty as hell.
The debates would be a hoot.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 31, 2016 03:55 PM (/tuJf)
But I suppose he's "pure," because he hasn't been in office long enough to fuck it up.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 31, 2016 03:55 PM (4/i9Y)
It's a CoIn op you don't "win" you stabilize.
President Chim Chim over there was in a lot better position in 2007 than 2009.
You win, the only acceptable response to 9/11 was a live action rendition of "Carebears the Motion Picture"...
Goddamnit I hate the Short Attention Span Theater we've evolved into that got snowed by a media hammering the lowest % of casualties to deployed assets we've ever had in this level of conflict.
Obama's casualty %s are HIGHER per deployed thousand than Bush's BTW.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2016 03:55 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at March 31, 2016 03:55 PM (4ng05)
Has there ever been a lifelong bachelor elected to the White House?
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at March 31, 2016 03:34 PM (rlfds)
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Outside of Buchanan, there was Cleveland, who was a lifelong bachelor when he was first elected. While in office he married a beautiful young woman half his age.
By all accounts it was a happy marriage.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 31, 2016 03:55 PM (T/5A0)
Yes. Some like seeing women roughed up.
(I denounce myself)
Posted by: Tilikum KAW SPI at March 31, 2016 03:56 PM (u0kqM)
She is such an AWFUL candidate.
So tone deaf, stiff, screechy, etc.
How is the GOP not eating her freakin' lunch?????
Posted by: Lizzy at March 31, 2016 03:54 PM (NOIQH)
Because the Republicans are too busy with their circular firing squad. Look at the cretins the Dems are running. The Republicans need to focus their fire on them
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2016 03:56 PM (493sH)
Read up on some Brokered Conventions.
It's usually the 3rd or 4th place guy.
It will be Kasich if it goes to Brokered Convention.
Posted by: naturalfake
Egad that's depressing.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 31, 2016 03:55 PM (326rv)
No it won't. Kasich does not make the cut under the old rules much less the new ones.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 31, 2016 03:56 PM (3JA/M)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 31, 2016 03:53 PM (PNcou)
That might be true, but I can't imagine a set of circumstances where Scarlett Johannson can act.
Posted by: Golden at March 31, 2016 03:56 PM (3ZtZW)
Good Witch v Bad Witch
Posted by: garrett
I'm having flashbacks again.
Also: *golf clap*
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 31, 2016 03:56 PM (326rv)
Posted by: Surellin at March 31, 2016 03:56 PM (V4N/S)
I like Walker but not sure he can win against Hillary. Same with Perry. How about Mike Lee? Carly?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 31, 2016 03:57 PM (sDNJ7)
Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 31, 2016 03:57 PM (SEFXb)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:57 PM (zOTsN)
No greater friend, no worse enemy. Plus if you f*** with him he'll kill you all.
Posted by: Darren at March 31, 2016 03:55 PM (oE+6d)
Yes please.
Plus he will beg you, from the depths of his soul, not to commit suicide by f--king with him, first. A true humanitarian.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at March 31, 2016 03:57 PM (4ng05)
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at March 31, 2016 03:50 PM (4ng05)
He's a naturalized citizen, remember?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 31, 2016 03:57 PM (iQIUe)
Period.
The two front runners now for the nomination are flawed in that regard. She's so bad Ted may beat her. May. He'd have a harder time with Bern maybe.
The Marine looks good. Draft him. Duty and all that.
Posted by: Tattaglia in Miami at March 31, 2016 03:57 PM (zmZ2x)
Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 31, 2016 03:58 PM (SEFXb)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 31, 2016 03:58 PM (Nwg0u)
Did anyone watch Fargo this season?
Because I thought Bruce Campbell did a pretty good Reagan, within the script he was given.
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at March 31, 2016 03:58 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:58 PM (zOTsN)
Hillary says she has a "real" grandchild, to contrast with Bernie who has grandchildren by adoption and by marriage.
http://bit.ly/1Op4etV
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 31, 2016 03:52 PM (1xUj/)
What an amazing human being she is. She is EXACTLY like that harpy you know, who has been married for 40 years, and turns her nose up at everyone she knows who are divorced, except everyone she knows, knows her husband is banging his secretary.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2016 03:58 PM (TOk1P)
I'm thinking Obama has already destroyed the US. Give W some credit too (TBTF bank bail out). Now we see if someone can put it back together or if we get open rebellion. Watch capital flee. TBTF will have a hard time getting a bail out this time.
Posted by: scorecard at March 31, 2016 03:58 PM (1uTkE)
Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at March 31, 2016 03:58 PM (y5bPZ)
on the ballot so Cruz will be the nominee if Trump can't get a majority
on the 1st ballot.
Posted by: beeblebrox has 2 heads at March 31, 2016 03:51 PM (wPIZb)
This.
Posted by: redbanzai
Oh good. We're back to "it can't happen". I feel soo warm and fuzzy now.
Now try convincing Ace of that.
And Romney.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 31, 2016 03:59 PM (326rv)
Posted by: what's Annette Haven up to these days? at March 31, 2016 03:59 PM (2WoCi)
- Constitutional scholar
- Full grasp of policy, govt processes, and history
- Ability and experience communicating complex issues in thoughtful and reasoned manner without teleprompter or notes
- Has a backbone and not afraid to forcefully call out BS...whether democrat or republican
- President of Landmark Foundation that fights for limited govt
- Well established record of believing in all the core conservative principles
- Largely responsible for the Article V convention movement
Posted by: phxjay at March 31, 2016 03:59 PM (IHK5T)
Posted by: RedDish on the tablet at March 31, 2016 03:59 PM (5eXg1)
Posted by: Dick Nixon hates Twitter and Does Not Use It at March 31, 2016 03:59 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: Arson Wells at March 31, 2016 03:59 PM (/E+t2)
Posted by: steevy at March 31, 2016 03:59 PM (B48dK)
Not a bad analogy...
of course she is cuckolding Bill with Huma....
I dunno she sucks ass but how many LOVs will ever hear her gaffes?
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2016 03:59 PM (g8Hfr)
Shooting at Greyhound Bus station in Richmond, VA?
Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 31, 2016 04:00 PM (IV1em)
Obama's casualty %s are HIGHER per deployed thousand than Bush's BTW.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2016 03:55 PM (g8Hfr)
How is that when we're not at war/there are no boots on the ground/they're a JV team, etc.....
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 31, 2016 04:00 PM (/D5Lf)
Posted by: Weasel at March 31, 2016 04:00 PM (e3bId)
He's a naturalized citizen, remember?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 31, 2016 03:57 PM (iQIUe)
Well, if that's the case, Obama was a foreign student long before he ever became a natural born citizen.
All I'm saying is... THERE ARE WAYS!
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at March 31, 2016 04:00 PM (4ng05)
vs Diana Rigg in "The Avengers" from the 1960s-for the old geezers who actually remember that series.
That would be another version of Mary Ann vs. Ginger
Not that you could tell it from that series so much, but Diana Rigg is a great actress. Scarlett-not so much and I prefer brunettes, not that I would have been likely to have had sex with either one of them, but I can still opine on feminine beauty.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 31, 2016 04:00 PM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 31, 2016 04:00 PM (Qvgg/)
Me likey
Posted by: ThunderB
He had a chance to do that in committee and let Hillsapopping run rings around them.
He won't fight any more than Ryan or Romney did.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 31, 2016 04:00 PM (A/3fN)
It's like Venezuela, only with a little more mom and apple pie.
You have to laugh at the fact Republicans are becoming everything they allegedly despise
You know, for the children.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 31, 2016 04:00 PM (390ue)
Posted by: fightwinger at March 31, 2016 04:00 PM (sQQU0)
It's usually the 3rd or 4th place guy.
There aren't really that many contested conventions in modern history to look at and hardly any brokered ones. So this factoid probably doesn't apply this year.
But the thing is, Trump has been terrible at mustering supporters at state conventions to be his delegates. In fact, there are Cruz people being elected as Trump - 1st ballot delegates, in states like Georgia as we speak.
Trump is such a terrible manager that his ostensible delegates at the convention will vote for Cruz if Trump can't win on the first ballot.
So this is a rare year when the leading contender for the nomination is such an organizational disaster that his own delegates aren't really his.
Turns out that Cruz is a better businessman than Trump is.
Posted by: beeblebrox has 2 heads at March 31, 2016 04:01 PM (wPIZb)
Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 31, 2016 04:00 PM (IV1em)
3 injured. 1 in custody.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 31, 2016 04:01 PM (/D5Lf)
Now womens soccer players are complaining that men soccer players make 4X the $$. It's not fair, they say.
Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 31, 2016 04:01 PM (IV1em)
Posted by: Ross Perot at March 31, 2016 04:01 PM (Fq7j4)
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at March 31, 2016 03:58 PM (ZbV+0)
So a Reagan actor? I like your train of thought.
But should it be Reagan, or zombie Reagan?
It would be a national service if he ate the brains of the Democrats.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 31, 2016 04:01 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: Christine O'D at March 31, 2016 04:01 PM (nXeSu)
Military; formerly Republican; short-lived Democratic presidential run 2015.
Posted by: m at March 31, 2016 04:01 PM (S/1cF)
Posted by: Jaimo at March 31, 2016 04:01 PM (9U1OG)
Did anyone watch Fargo this season?
Because I thought Bruce Campbell did a pretty good Reagan, within the script he was given.
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at March 31, 2016 03:58 PM (ZbV+0)
He did. It was a great. I could see Campbell doing this in real life. Being Reagan II.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2016 04:01 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: HH at March 31, 2016 04:01 PM (DrCtv)
Posted by: Dick Nixon hates Twitter and Does Not Use It at March 31, 2016 04:02 PM (mcm0N)
on the ballot so Cruz will be the nominee if Trump can't get a majority
on the 1st ballot.
Posted by: beeblebrox has 2 heads at March 31, 2016 03:51 PM (wPIZb)
This.
Posted by: redbanzai
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Cruz is definitely sitting pretty. But under Ace's scenario, Trump neuters Cruz somehow to where Cruz sheds some support. I think that is possible.
Right now, I'd give Cruz better odds at winning the nomination, but I'd still take the field.
Posted by: SH at March 31, 2016 04:02 PM (gmeXX)
1. Those rules can and will be changed, and when they are changed it will be concrete proof that the fix is in.
2. The party big shots have been quite explicit this year in pointing out that the party picks the nominee, not the voters.
3. The party bosses despise Ted Cruz. There is no way they are going to pick him. They may not pick Kasich either but they'll at least throw him a bone for being a loyal soldier.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 31, 2016 04:02 PM (JxMoP)
The answer, of course, is no. There's just a sea of imperfect candidates. But many of them could probably beat Hillary, who is still the same flawed, deeply disliked candidate she's always been.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 31, 2016 04:02 PM (4/i9Y)
Posted by: steevy at March 31, 2016 04:02 PM (B48dK)
Exactly...we do not have 7500 "not troops" in "not Iraq" even as we type "not taking casualties" at ~3 wounded per day...
the difference is the media refuses to report on it.
Obama passed "Evil Dumb Chimpy" in % of US casualties in 'ghani back in '14 IIRC...and NOBODY CARES.
Fuck these people in particular.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2016 04:02 PM (g8Hfr)
Popular voting was never a thing. The convention rules are roughly analogous to the electoral college.
They're meant to be a check on the popular vote.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 31, 2016 04:02 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Golden at March 31, 2016 03:56 PM (3ZtZW)
Porn? She did date post roids Sean Penn. I bet she has some "acting" experience IYKWIMAITTYD
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 31, 2016 04:02 PM (t06LC)
Look at the cretins the Dems are running. The Republicans need to focus
their fire on them
Which is one of the reasons Trump got so much traction despite being....ill-equipped for the long haul.
*facepalm*
Posted by: Lizzy at March 31, 2016 04:03 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 31, 2016 04:03 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 31, 2016 04:03 PM (/D5Lf)
Posted by: AmeriDan at March 31, 2016 04:03 PM (YLLPb)
Scourge of waste, fraud and abuse - traditional conservatives
Passed a nothing burger govt transparency bill with Senator Obama; also gets along with Obama - general election crowds
Border Security First and fought against incentives/rewards for entering illegally - Trump crowd
Either that or Mitch the Blade....
Posted by: BF at March 31, 2016 04:04 PM (kTwWN)
Not a bad analogy...
of course she is cuckolding Bill with Huma....
I dunno she sucks ass but how many LOVs will ever hear her gaffes?
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2016 03:59 PM (g8Hfr)
Yeah, I honestly don't believe she has a sexual relationship with Hooma. And maybe with no other females either.
Still, you could go with another analogy: The nasty faced broad who talks about drug addicts all the time, and goes home and gets drunk every night.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2016 04:04 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Damiano at March 31, 2016 04:04 PM (XItbt)
He'd be great just for the entertainment value of watching him mind f--k this countries enemies.
A Bolton presidency would be remembered by the world for a thousand years.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at March 31, 2016 04:05 PM (4ng05)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 31, 2016 04:05 PM (PNcou)
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The point is, this joke provides the media, Hill, and Bernie thugs with ammunition to attack Cruz. It is idiotic to attack Trump for Fields and to think that similar attacks, which your disavowal of Trump justifies, won't be used against Cruz. Let he who is without sin run as a Republican.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 31, 2016 04:05 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Marcus T
..............................
Trump is being stomped on by his own mouth. Period.
He has no clue about policies.. when asked a question about something any presidential candidate should have opinions on, he shits the bed.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 31, 2016 04:05 PM (so+oy)
If Trump has the most delegates and someone else gets it, his people will revolt en masse and not support the nominee. If it's Trump, enough Republicans will stay home for the same reason. The establishment will never give it to Cruz. So if they put up some establishment guy the Reps will lose the general. If it's Trump, same result. So either way we're fucked. The ONLY good thing to come out of this entire mess is that MAYBE it woke up the GOPee to the fact that the conservative party of their party is tired of their bullshit and working against us. That is the only good I can see coming out of this.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 31, 2016 04:06 PM (btH0m)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 31, 2016 03:58 PM (zOTsN)
With Slim Pickens as his VP.
Cotton/Pickens
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2016 04:06 PM (493sH)
Cruz is a more details man.
Otherwise you are saying running for office is a business. Farming the Government? Criminal Justice Business? Corleone has to share his judges?
Posted by: scorecard at March 31, 2016 04:07 PM (rnH8X)
2. The party big shots have been quite explicit this year in pointing out that the party picks the nominee, not the voters.
3. The party bosses despise Ted Cruz. There is no way they are going
to pick him. They may not pick Kasich either but they'll at least throw
him a bone for being a loyal soldier.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 31, 2016 04:02 PM (JxMoP)
Not that paranoia is unwarranted but you guys are ascribing too much power to the GOPe. The delegates have to pass the rules and will not if they are amended in the fashion you imagine.
So healthy caution is smart but tin foil hats are not... this is not 2012. If it were, Jeb! would already be the candidate.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 31, 2016 04:07 PM (3JA/M)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 31, 2016 04:08 PM (PNcou)
Huma slept in her room, and was around her ~19 hours a day.
I could give three f*cks if she is a kitty licker...
I'd rather her tongue itcher not be a Muslim Brotherhood Operative.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2016 04:08 PM (g8Hfr)
Having a close friend who was a federal investigator...... you can start putting all your money on the 'not indicted' side of the possible outcomes..
Comey would NEVER interview Hill if this was (or could) go to court.
Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at March 31, 2016 04:08 PM (3ZttN)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2016 04:06 PM (493sH)
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I'm sure we can count on blacks to pick Cotton
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 31, 2016 04:09 PM (PNcou)
Mattis would be an interesting candidate, but he'd have to deal with the "gay warmonger" smear.
Doubt he wants to deal with that.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at March 31, 2016 04:09 PM (rlfds)
and the mouths of others. :-)
Plenty of others. :-)
Don't like a guy from NY?
Wait till you have to work with one from NJ. :-)
Posted by: scorecard at March 31, 2016 04:09 PM (1uTkE)
DoJ is horning in on our failure theater action!
//Your GOP Senate
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2016 04:09 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at March 31, 2016 04:09 PM (4ng05)
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 31, 2016 04:10 PM (RcpcZ)
Cotten is a solid C rating over at Conservative Review.
He's a squish. Think of him as Kasich when Johnny was a young guy, full of hope and vigor.
Posted by: beeblebrox has 2 heads at March 31, 2016 04:10 PM (wPIZb)
He's the reconstituted version of Romney with some enchiladas on the side
Posted by: Marcus T at March 31, 2016 03:54 PM (390ue)
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Enchiladas? Really?
I highly doubt that his Cuban father so much as heard of enchiladas before he came to the US!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 31, 2016 04:10 PM (T/5A0)
Posted by: Anti-Hill at March 31, 2016 04:10 PM (3aBcq)
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 31, 2016 04:11 PM (RcpcZ)
gets it, his people will revolt en masse and not support the nominee. If
it's Trump, enough Republicans will stay home for the same reason. The
establishment will never give it to Cruz. So if they put up some
establishment guy the Reps will lose the general. If it's Trump, same
result. So either way we're fucked. The ONLY good thing to come out of
this entire mess is that MAYBE it woke up the GOPee to the fact that the
conservative party of their party is tired of their bullshit and
working against us. That is the only good I can see coming out of this.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 31, 2016 04:06 PM (btH0m)
"The most" doesn't matter... as much as Trump supporters (and Trump himself) like to pretend that there are special unwritten rules that justify them rioting if they don't get what they want, there are not. THE RULES say the nominee has to get 50% +1 (1237 delegates). If Trump does not get that, he will not get the nomination and nor should he. The less than 40% do not get to dictate to the 60% who the nominee should be.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 31, 2016 04:11 PM (3JA/M)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 31, 2016 04:12 PM (PNcou)
It is someone who won't lose too badly and will further the long term goals.
To me those goals are actual immigration enforcement, and us recognizing that the Trump and yes, Sanders voters have a point. The working class really has been screwed, by both parties.
So, lose, but not badly, some hope of getting working class voters back off the Trump bandwagon.
That means it CANNOT be Mitt, or Ryan. Those are basically walking, talking "eff you"s to everyone who has a problem with where the Establishment GOP has brought us.
Posted by: RichieC at March 31, 2016 04:12 PM (838ff)
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 31, 2016 04:13 PM (RcpcZ)
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 31, 2016 04:13 PM (RcpcZ)
I say apply Alinsky rules: athlete pay should be equal across the board, regardless of gender. Make WNBA starting salaries the same as NBA, etc.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 31, 2016 04:14 PM (NOIQH)
He does win on the "has been in a sewer" vs. "completely full of shit" scale.
Posted by: DaveA at March 31, 2016 04:14 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Kevin DuBrow at March 31, 2016 04:14 PM (bMcUX)
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remind me again how a league that bans male players is legal?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 31, 2016 04:15 PM (PNcou)
Well that's depressing.
Why is he interviewing her then?
Posted by: Lizzy at March 31, 2016 04:15 PM (NOIQH)
So healthy caution is smart but tin foil hats are not... this is not 2012. If it were, Jeb! would already be the candidate.
Exactly so.
The delegates control the convention, not the rules committee. Yes, the committee proposes but the convention votes.
Plus, the rules committee is going to be risk adverse. Changing the rules to favor someone like Kasich would be considered to be dangerous by the committee plus, lots of Cruz people are on that committee.
Further, there is the practical aspect of the fact that the only reason to change the rules would be to favor someone who they think would be preferable and, as this thread shows, no one fits that bill that can win.
Better for the delegates to have their say.
There is going to be wheeling and dealing on subsequent ballots but most of these delegates will be unbound by that point. So it's not like Rubio or Kasich can force any of their people to join with someone else.
Most of these delegates will be activists and will see that Cruz offers the anti-establishmnetarian position without the Trump vulgarian narcissism. This is why they will move to Cruz.
In fact, if Trump were not in the hunt right now, everyone would see Cruz as the burn-it-down candidate.
Posted by: beeblebrox has 2 heads at March 31, 2016 04:16 PM (wPIZb)
I know your strongly held beliefs on regulation, free trade and anything that looks like redistribution.
And I don't effing care. Winning requires a coalition. Your only choice is who you partner with. That means you have to give way on something.
We need a more populist economic policy, unless you want us all replaced with more convenient voters, who will speak perfect Spanish while confiscating guns and storing them in a transgender bathroom.
Posted by: RichieC at March 31, 2016 04:16 PM (838ff)
He's not a Republican, but neither is Donald Trump!
He's a guaranteed win.
Posted by: Haiku Guy at March 31, 2016 04:16 PM (hmj8n)
Or at least another round of failure theater - now with hair spray.
Posted by: DaveA at March 31, 2016 04:17 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at March 31, 2016 04:17 PM (4ng05)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
----------------
Are you suggesting that Svengali is primarily motivated by his own ego/well-being?
I will soon be posting a strongly worded insult.
Posted by: A Strumpet at March 31, 2016 04:17 PM (9mTYi)
It's like Venezuela, only with a little more mom and apple pie.
You have to laugh at the fact Republicans are becoming everything they allegedly despise
You know, for the children.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 31, 2016 04:00 PM (390ue)
If Trump can't get to 1237 even with all the "first past the post" primaries that already award an outsized proportion of delegates to someone under 50% but ahead of the rest of the pack, he really hasn't earned the nomination and the convention attendees owe him nothing but their pledged votes on the first ballot. To suggest that the "first past the post" rule be extended to the nomination itself is like a double-mulligan for Trump. How many does the guy need, anyway?
Posted by: HTL at March 31, 2016 04:18 PM (NAWno)
So healthy caution is smart but tin foil hats are not... this is not 2012. If it were, Jeb! would already be the candidate.
Posted by: redbanzai
So Romney was wearing a tin foil hat when e said that he would accept the nomination. And Boehner was wearing one too.
Got it. So much for, It's possible but there's no precedent.
Posted by: We at March 31, 2016 04:18 PM (326rv)
Posted by: Anti-Hill at March 31, 2016 04:19 PM (3aBcq)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 31, 2016 04:19 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Jean at March 31, 2016 04:19 PM (s+xE2)
Posted by: Haiku Guy at March 31, 2016 04:19 PM (hmj8n)
I'm fucking Matt Damon, and I endorse this message
Posted by: Sarah Silverman at March 31, 2016 04:22 PM (BYSrJ)
Otherwise you are saying running for office is a business.
What I'm saying is that Cruz is proving to be a great administrator to match his political talents.
Sure, the guy is obviously the smartest man in any room he walks into and that means he knows details. But he has also amassed skilled campaign teams on the national and state level. Essentially, he is the CEO of a major, national organization. And yes, it's a business.
The fact that Cruz is killing Trump at the organizational level tells us a lot.
Now, that doesn't mean that absent his constitutionalism, I would vote for him just because of his administrative skills. I vote for the constitutionalist first and the business acumen second.
But it's ironic that Trump can't manage his own campaign to save his life.
Posted by: beeblebrox has 2 heads at March 31, 2016 04:22 PM (wPIZb)
Posted by: redbanzai at March 31, 2016 04:11 PM
I am not talking about rioting nowhere in my post did I mention that. I am talking about enough of his supporters sitting out the election all together. Same goes if Trump does get the nom, there's enough Republicans that would stay home. Either way it's a loss in the general.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 31, 2016 04:22 PM (btH0m)
Posted by: HTL
i agree. As does the party. They have realized that they can't surpass him, but they need to prevent him from walking in with 1237.
Got that.
I also get that they are vilifying him now because when round #2 comes round, they want people to start defecting from him to someone else.
That's also part of this process.
Got that too.
Who is, and who might become eligible as of round #2?
If it remains the top two, then Trump is still in it.
if the field expands somehow, Trumps' chances worsen, (which most people want), but if/when that happens, all the questions raised here come to the fore.
if it stays between guy #1 and guy #2, will we see the GOP throw genuine support behind Cruz? We certainly aren't seeing it now.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 31, 2016 04:24 PM (326rv)
680 #509 Re; Hillary is not going to be indicted. Agree.
Having a close friend who was a federal investigator...... you can start putting all your money on the 'not indicted' side of the possible outcomes..
Comey would NEVER interview Hill if this was (or could) go to court.
Heard the exact opposite, he is going to supervise interview to protect the FBI from HRC screaming inanities ten minutes afterwards.
Posted by: Jean at March 31, 2016 04:24 PM (s+xE2)
Posted by: DaveA at March 31, 2016 04:25 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: redbanzai
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All true.
Human beings have a seemingly infinite capacity for gross rationalization to justify their behavior. To this very day, Perot supporters will staunchly proclaim that they 'did the right thing'.
That the consequence was eight destructive years of Clinton, setting the stage for what we are facing right now , moves their psychology nary a bit.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 31, 2016 04:25 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Jean
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Heard that pigs will be flying.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 31, 2016 04:26 PM (9mTYi)
a strong candidate (a plausible thing because you know Trump's not
going down alone)"
I like your implication that we haven't already passed that point. Naive, but I like the optimism.
Seriously, the Trump+Rubio "Lyin' Ted" blitz every time Cruz said anything an utter imbecile could misinterpret has ensured Hillary's biggest weakness gets neutralized if Cruz runs against her. Cruz is still my guy since I can't justify voting for the conman (voters who think Trump is the one and only person in the world who will carry out campaign promises are so cute), but I'm under no illusion that he can beat Hillary now.
Your "Trump's not going down alone" is quite accurate; you're only mistaken that it hasn't happened yet.
Posted by: Cortillaen at March 31, 2016 04:27 PM (DQa6v)
I don't get this comment.
Romney won the nomination outright without any rules change. They didn't even need to change rule 40 from the 5 state threshold to 8 to stop Ron Paul last time out since I think he only got a majority in 2 states anyway.
As for Boehner, I don't recall that he was ever nominated for president. Must have missed that year. ;-)
Posted by: beeblebrox has 2 heads at March 31, 2016 04:28 PM (wPIZb)
Posted by: Reggie Love at March 31, 2016 04:30 PM (y5bPZ)
Caveat: I don't know much about him. But that was part of what I was looking for. If you've been in Congress nearly a decade and I still don't know who you are, it means you probably haven't been outright offensive to pretty much anyone. Which is what I think it would take to unify the party again.
Posted by: Sayyid at March 31, 2016 04:30 PM (5y71V)
Posted by: Jean at March 31, 2016 04:31 PM (s+xE2)
The delegates pick the nominee. Not the bosses. Those guys can't even pick their nose.
People think the "bosses" make our choices. Wrong, the media convinces voters to pick our nominee. So the people do.
They're trying to do it again this year by pushing Trump non-stop. Let's hope cooler delegate heads prevail and they give us Cruz.
Posted by: beeblebrox has 2 heads at March 31, 2016 04:32 PM (wPIZb)
It seems the obama Left is back to assassinating cops in broad daylight.
Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 31, 2016 04:32 PM (IV1em)
Posted by: Bellator at March 31, 2016 04:32 PM (BeYLL)
Smells like a steaming sackful of VICTORY to me!
Posted by: shoutingboy at March 31, 2016 04:32 PM (hj9/K)
It is *unusual* of course how common is 1245 security breaches running for office?
Thing is Ogabe is all in on her.
I think he runs interference for her.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2016 04:32 PM (g8Hfr)
You CAN always get what you want. Working together, we can get beyond need.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 31, 2016 04:33 PM (FtrY1)
Posted by: William Shatner's Pants at March 31, 2016 04:35 PM (T0SPa)
Mark appears to be genuinely concerned about the direction of this country. Maybe I'm wrong...but I truly believe it is more than book sales for him. If there was a ground swell of support that provided him the nomination...I don't see how he couldn't accept it. It would provide him much more opportunity to affect the change he and so many of us want.
Posted by: phxjay at March 31, 2016 04:36 PM (IHK5T)
yeah! How about Bush/Carter, running on the Failure platform?
Posted by: WaitingForMartel at March 31, 2016 04:37 PM (BYSrJ)
Posted by: matthew49 at March 31, 2016 04:40 PM (iYPEX)
Greg Abbot
Mike Pence
A guy who *looks* like a president, but in truth, is a bit of a douche: John Cornyn, Texas' other senator.
A guy who *doesn't* look like a president, but who in person is funny as hell - US Rep Louie Gohmert
Posted by: the other coyote at March 31, 2016 04:41 PM (yK44T)
Posted by: azjaeger at March 31, 2016 04:43 PM (oFEKl)
Posted by: Ujorge at March 31, 2016 04:44 PM (D0AzC)
Posted by: Raul Johnson at March 31, 2016 04:46 PM (MiBr0)
Posted by: Raul Johnson at March 31, 2016 04:47 PM (MiBr0)
Posted by: Jean at March 31, 2016 04:47 PM (s+xE2)
Greg Abbot
Mike Pence
A guy who *looks* like a president, but in truth, is a bit of a douche: John Cornyn, Texas' other senator.
A guy who *doesn't* look like a president, but who in person is funny as hell - US Rep Louie Gohmert
Posted by: the other coyote at March 31, 2016 04:41 PM (yK44T)
Yeah, the country is crying out to vote for a politician right now. Maybe these guys will be the ones instead of the 15 or so we've gone through already.
At least these picks show we're focused. None of that "thinking outside the box" stuff for us.
The last thing we need is someone who fill stadiums and have people wait hours to hear them. Too much excitement is bad for serious politics.
Keep these suggestions coming. We're close.
Posted by: jwest at March 31, 2016 04:47 PM (Zs4uk)
It is *unusual* of course how common is 1245 security breaches running for office?
Thing is Ogabe is all in on her.
I think he runs interference for her.
Posted by: sven10077
I think a leaked FBI "indict the bitch" memo is almost better than a fumbled prosecution.
Posted by: Jean at March 31, 2016 04:53 PM (s+xE2)
We need to remember that it only becomes a "brokered convention" if rule 40 is suspended. At that point all bets are off because suspending rule 40 would take such a gargantuan effort on the part of the GOP bosses that they would have already destroyed the process.
They would then be adding insult to massive injury to install their own guy like say, Ryan.
Ryan would win about one more state than Trump were Trump nominated, that being Wisconsin.
Still, Hillary wins the rest.
Posted by: beeblebrox has 2 heads at March 31, 2016 04:55 PM (wPIZb)
Posted by: Texas 1836 at March 31, 2016 05:01 PM (y3ZTV)
Posted by: Biff Hardslab at March 31, 2016 05:02 PM (aRUb8)
I don't think that's true. Even with rule 40, anyone could be chosen on a later ballot.
e.g. On convention day, say Trump has 1100 delegates, Cruz has 900, the rest are scattered. Only Cruz and Trump have 8+ states. First ballot: No majority.
Now the delegates are freed. So, say Walker-Mania sweeps the convention. Eight midwestern states's delegates get together and say "we loves us some Walker." In each of those states, more than half of the (now unbound!) delegates sign a statement saying "we're backing Walker". Bang, Walker now passes Rule 40.
The key thing is, *bound* delegates can't sign the rule 40 statement for anyone but the guy they're bound to--but after the first ballot, any delegate can back anyone.
Posted by: shoutingboy at March 31, 2016 05:04 PM (hj9/K)
Petraeus was a closet lib, and with the sex scandal he's done. Maybe a cabinet gig.
Stanley McChrystal is both a genius and a confirmed Obama hater, but he's pretty burned out after being in the middle of the war's dark side since 2001. Doubt he'd want it either.
Personally I am a huge fan of LTG Bolger, but he's teaching college history in retirement and quite happy.
Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at March 31, 2016 05:11 PM (+Iexe)
It's either Trump or Cruz or the Deluge. Same for the Dems--if Queenie melts, it's Bolshoi Bernie or else.
I'm good with Ted. he's fought for the Constitution in Court and won. He shut down the Gummint.
I'm a #NeverTrump now, but we do need to By God control the borders and visas, kick terrorists ass, stand up to Obama/Iran and screw political correctness forever.
Posted by: The Wolf Who Cried Boy at March 31, 2016 05:17 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 31, 2016 05:19 PM (eXTZt)
Posted by: Sean Hannity at March 31, 2016 05:23 PM (3b9U4)
Posted by: Jean at March 31, 2016 05:26 PM (s+xE2)
Posted by: Random Thought Generator at March 31, 2016 05:41 PM (wLLbf)
Posted by: Gobbagoo at March 31, 2016 06:01 PM (H7eLj)
Something I remember seeing previously in a book...
What if the Democrats and Republicans BOTH nominated him?
Hillary melts down, Matthis enters as non-partisa, and he gets nominated by both parties and elected to universal acclaim in the Electoral College?
Would be an interesting scenario.
But yeah, he's the only person other than Trump or Cruz that wouldn't start a fire in the GOP.
Posted by: Zack at March 31, 2016 06:04 PM (rEXZX)
Posted by: jimveejr at March 31, 2016 06:13 PM (2s1Lx)
You can tell who the left really fears: Look for the guy that's being smeared for his appetite for black tranny hookers, by pimple-faced Feministing slags trolling under unfamiliar names.
Posted by: Pastafarian at March 31, 2016 06:15 PM (pCf+a)
However, there are ~150 or so unbound delegates. They MUST vote for an eligible nominee on the first ballot (as I understand it.) so if Trump is the only one who crosses the 8-state threshold, and gets enough delegates for ALL of the unbound delegates combined to push him over the edge, he becomes the nominee by default (unless they pull the rug out from under him.)
Posted by: Zack at March 31, 2016 06:17 PM (rEXZX)
And if you want to know who the left would actually pick for us if they could, look for the guy propped up by those same pimple-faced beta-male trolls.
Posted by: Pastafarian at March 31, 2016 06:17 PM (pCf+a)
Posted by: fluffy at March 31, 2016 06:17 PM (2hcmo)
Posted by: El Alamein at March 31, 2016 06:36 PM (uNpJu)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 31, 2016 03:54 PM (NOIQH)
- - -
Didn't you hear?
Trump is the 'real' enemy.
Posted by: Community Organizer at March 31, 2016 06:37 PM (GN7Er)
Actually that sounds like a great idea.
Mike Rowe- if he'd be willing- would be perfect. He could get most of the Bernie supporters, most of the Trump supporters, and all the traditional conservatives would go for him too.
The only people left swinging in the wind would be the Establishment of both parties, who would go for Clinton.
Other choices now that I'm thinking:
Tom Cotton as others have mentioned would be a great compromise candidate who could unite the Trump and non-Trump forces. He's fiercely opposed Obama, has gotten things done, and is more charismatic than Cruz.
Bob Corker would be similar- he'd be a choice closer to the Establishment, but he's still lead the charge on opposing the Iran Deal, got SOMETHING done, even if it was precious little, but still has a blue-collar background to fall back on to draw in Trump and Sanders supporters.
He's actually proposed a lot of ideas to oppose Obamacare- things to replace it, things that chip away at it.
Corker/Kasich, with a promise to nominate Cruz to the Supreme Court if elected, or Corker/Cruz, or Corker/Rubio would be a decent ticket.
Posted by: Zack at March 31, 2016 06:40 PM (rEXZX)
Posted by: hurricane567 at March 31, 2016 06:48 PM (iQn09)
Posted by: jazzuscounty at March 31, 2016 06:49 PM (QYKC+)
Posted by: AlecRawls at March 31, 2016 07:47 PM (5z7RS)
Sing it, Brother Cavil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9xQlcvNlxg
"and tomorrow - next year - it's the same old thing again"
Posted by: Lord Prufrock Brothyjest at March 31, 2016 07:51 PM (lqeGC)
Posted by: 1880 at March 31, 2016 08:31 PM (Tj8Tv)
Posted by: a440hz at March 31, 2016 08:33 PM (FAPxv)
And now here's Ace, himself, asking us to envision a scenario in which we'll lower our heads again and pretend that those dicks gathering overhead are actually clouds.
I understand why so many of you Cruz supporters turn that hard turn into moonbat territory. It wasn't Romney's speech, as I've seen a couple of people suggest in this thread.
It was the death of Justice Scalia. That was when you guys decided that we Trump supporters are just playing a little game of rebellion against The Man, man, and that it was now time for us to put away our game and get serious about the future of our country.
But I am serious. If I've learned anything during this second Obama term, it's that the Establishment will always find something really, really important to dangle in front of us and call us to heel again. They're free to keep getting shittier and more worthless with each passing day, because they can count on the Democrats to get worse, too, and scare us back into the GOP's venomous embrace.
It will not stop until we make it stop.
I want Trump to wrap up this nomination, and force the GOPe to make a hard choice for once... accept the will of our voters, or tear our mask off and blatantly screw their chosen candidate out of the nomination?
Frankly, I'm fine either way. And that's why I sort of resent the fact that so many of you are 100% on board with #NeverTrump, because if you get your way the GOPe will be spared from making that decision.
Also, I think Trump would do much better in the general election than current polls are suggesting, for several reasons, but I've rambled on long enough, here, and I'll save that discussion for some other time.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at March 31, 2016 08:47 PM (0OG8D)
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The problem with myself is that I don't believe that Trump will make that noble stand against the establishment. What you don't see is that Cruz backers think that he will because he has done it several times already in DC.
Posted by: jazzuscounty at March 31, 2016 08:55 PM (QYKC+)
Posted by: K Dubh at March 31, 2016 09:06 PM (6aqR0)
I hear Amy Klobuchar is on the short list!
Posted by: Sayyid at March 31, 2016 09:16 PM (5y71V)
Let's examine one of those "noble stands" from Cruz.
Cruz got together with Paul Ryan to write an editorial in the WSJ to try to sell the general public on the awesomeness of the TPA bill, which would bypass the Constitution and make it pretty much impossible for Obama's Trans-Pacific Partnership treaty NOT to pass through two legislative chambers ostensibly controlled by Obama's opposition.
Once the TPA was safely passed, and the Republican-controlled Senate had held its pretend-vote against the TPP, Cruz came out and said he'd only supported this bill because Mitch McConnell had lied to him and told him there would be no floor vote on some other petty, unrelated bill (the ExIm Bank, IIRC).
The usual GOPe stalwarts (such as McCain, Graham, and Hatch) came out swinging against Cruz for this "unprecedented" breach of Senate protocol. Hatch, as the Majority Whip, promised serious punishment for Cruz, and was certainly in a position to make that happen.
At the time, I cheered right along with you guys. "Just try it, Hatch; I triple-dog dare you!"
But as time passed, I noticed something... there was no effort to punish Cruz.
Not only that, but McConnell himself had nothing to say about the incident.
This is the same McConnell who'd boasted of plans to crush the TEA Party everywhere, and said he'd like to punch every anti-establishment voter in the nose.
Why would he suddenly be so shy about speaking out against a TEA-Party-supported Senator who'd attacked his integrity in no uncertain terms? Why would he not get behind Hatch's plans to punish Cruz?
Another detail that jumped out at me... McConnell was not present on the Senate floor on that day that Cruz had scheduled the time to make that speech.
I'm convinced that Cruz must've worked it all out with McConnell in advance. And McConnell must've told Hatch to back down, in exchange for Cruz not actually calling him a liar to his face.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at March 31, 2016 09:22 PM (0OG8D)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at March 31, 2016 09:25 PM (0OG8D)
Posted by: Eli Cash at March 31, 2016 09:34 PM (KvNJG)
Posted by: Bill S at March 31, 2016 09:36 PM (bqR+I)
Posted by: Corky St.Clair at March 31, 2016 09:48 PM (w+mZJ)
Cruz keeps accusing Trump of attacking his daughters.
Please, show me one instance of Trump attacking Cruz's daughters.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at March 31, 2016 09:55 PM (0OG8D)
Requiring by law an up or down vote on a treaty doesn't bypass the constitution. Show me where the constitution requires senators to be able to offer amendments to a treaty or a bill before voting on it.
Also, keep in mind that the Trans-Pacific Partnership isn't ratified yet. Nothing is agreed to because Congress hasn't actually ratified the thing.
Also remember the House is irrelevant for the purposes of ratifying a treaty- only the Senate has to ratify it, albeit it has to do so by a 2/3rds margin.
And the ExIm Bank isn't exactly petty, any moreso than the TPA- it was corporate welfare and it should've been left dead.
McConnell went silent to avoid another government shutdown. He knew that if he actually punished Cruz for speaking out, the conservative members of the Senate would force him out of the leadership in a heartbeat. Nothing would pass by unanimous consent until hell froze over, and everything would've bogged down in the mud. Cruz would've come out on top. McConnell knew when he was whipped.
Posted by: Zack at March 31, 2016 10:00 PM (rEXZX)
Posted by: Zack at March 31, 2016 10:03 PM (rEXZX)
By cracky, Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I
do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending on
the breaks.
Posted by: General Buck Turgidson at March 31, 2016 10:06 PM (6CCkt)
The TPA called instead for a simple majority in the House and Senate to change that requirement to a 1/3 majority in the Senate to ratify this particular treaty.
Also, McConnell had just easily shot down a TEA-Party-supported primary challenger. And Cruz was polling at about 5% in the presidential primary at the time. Why would McConnell think he was licked right then?
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at March 31, 2016 10:15 PM (0OG8D)
No. It receives an up or down vote.
A majority is still required, in BOTH houses.
It's a simple majority to require a simple majority.
It's also notable that it passes as legislation, not a treaty- so it can be repealed by an act of congress just like it was passed by an act of congress, rather than being subject to the mechanisms in the treaty.
And anything implemented under executive authority (e.g., any implementation that depends on federal rulemaking, like how certain terms are defined) can be unilaterally dismantled by the president as well.
And he's licked because even one person can hold up the show in the senate, causing days of delay. A group of ten or twenty can get him kicked out of leadership with obstructionism.
Posted by: Zack at March 31, 2016 10:31 PM (rEXZX)
And even if they could, because they're passing legislation, the trade bill doesn't just pass into law if they don't engage in a vote.
All you have is that Congress is in violation of an (unenforceable) law that lacks civil or criminal penalties attached to it.
Posted by: Zack at March 31, 2016 10:34 PM (rEXZX)
#781: I've been trying, but not having much luck dealing with this server. I'll try just posting the tinyurls without added comment...
http://preview.tinyurl.com/gv3nux6
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Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at March 31, 2016 10:34 PM (0OG8D)
Never does he actually directly link his daughters to Donald Trump's statements, and nowhere does he claim Donald Trump ever attacked his children.
It's quite plain that the part about his children is a reference to what happened earlier in the campaign when the Washington Post put out that cartoon about his daughters, and is a more general statements about the limits of propriety in politics.
Posted by: Zack at March 31, 2016 10:44 PM (rEXZX)
The TPA said, "we're gonna pretend the TPP isn't a treaty; we'll make it a simple bill, with the exception that if the TPA passes by a simple majority in the House, and gets past the filibuster for a simple majority in the Senate, it'll then require 67 votes in the Senate to override, rather than to ratify, this particular treaty represented by the TPP."
34 Senate votes and a mere majority in the House is thus all that is needed to ratify the TPP, despite the fact that the Constitution calls for at least 67 Senate votes to ratify a treaty.
If all that is needed is 34 votes, the filibuster rule doesn't even apply. You need 40 votes for a filibuster.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at March 31, 2016 10:51 PM (0OG8D)
Now, show me one instance of Trump actually going after Cruz's daughters.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at March 31, 2016 10:55 PM (0OG8D)
"Trump is a sniveling coward; you go after my wife, you go after my daughters..."
"Trump is a sniveling coward; you go after my daughters, you go after my wife..."
"Trump questioned our level of involvement in NATO, and that's why we just had that terrorist attack in Brussels; it's all his fault!"
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at March 31, 2016 11:04 PM (0OG8D)
Posted by: Michael Haz at March 31, 2016 11:05 PM (Hobdi)
Posted by: Athelstan Cyning at March 31, 2016 11:08 PM (xHH+A)
Posted by: marine43 at March 31, 2016 11:14 PM (/Y6iD)
Posted by: CB at March 31, 2016 11:19 PM (qqyG8)
He is now a big-time Cruz supporter, and poo-poos the idea of Cruz having cheated on his wife.
One of the women shown as a possible Cruz mistress in the National Enquirer is Amanda Carpenter.
Amanda Carpenter= A.C.
Ace is spelled A.C.E.
Is Ace actually Amanda Carpenter?
I'm just kidding. I know Ace is not Amanda Carpenter. I sent him an email once, and he (I presume accidentally) responded from an account that gave me his real name. I promptly forgot it, because I figured it was a mistake and he didn't actually want me knowing that information.
Even if you waterboarded me, I'd never remember the name on that email.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at March 31, 2016 11:20 PM (0OG8D)
Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 31, 2016 11:31 PM (eXTZt)
Good times, right?
Incidentally, do you know who was the NRSC Vice-Chairman in charge of Grassroots Outreach at the time?
It was Ted Cruz.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at March 31, 2016 11:34 PM (0OG8D)
Posted by: pdiddy at March 31, 2016 11:52 PM (OZ5xF)
The two bills went to the resolution phase; the GOP-controlled House sent noted "budget hawk" Paul Ryan to represent them in the negotiations, while the Democrat-controlled Senate sent noted "drooling imbecile" Patty Murray to represent them.
Paul Ryan, leveraging all his skills as a negotiator, managed to compromise that spending bill all the way to $1.1 trillion, way more than even the Democrats wanted.
Yeah, that's the guy I want leading us and negotiating with foreign nations on our behalf.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 01, 2016 12:03 AM (0OG8D)
So the alternative to the candidate who gets 35-40% is someone who got 0% because they never ran in the election in the first place and participated in exactly zero of the gazillion debates and hasn't had a year to make gaffes and be scrutinized? Yeah, that's much better than nominating the guy who busted his chops the past year to get the plurality.
Posted by: Moron Labe at April 01, 2016 03:54 AM (Q1Btd)
No, it doesn't.
If the TPP gets a majority for Cloture, but not for Approval, and the "Resolution of Disapproval" fails, the TPP is not passed, period. Find anything in the law that says otherwise.
@789, @790 He didn't say that or any of those things in any of those links. He's never said ANTYHING explicitly saying Trump talked about his daughters. Feel free to screenshot me and prove me wrong. I can't prove it's not there, but you CAN prove it's there.
Posted by: Zack at April 01, 2016 05:20 AM (rEXZX)
Look up Section 106.
Also, keep in mind that these rules can be changed by either house at any time, Quoting from an article:
"Such power is not merely theoretical. It is precisely what then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi did to the Colombia FTA in 2008 after President Bush submitted its implementing legislation."
Posted by: Zack at April 01, 2016 05:21 AM (rEXZX)
I was willing to take Trump or Cruz. Either one would have been miles above Hillary Clinton, but both sides savaged the other, and now the GOPe stands on the brink of handing us another milquetoast candidate who might as well be a Democrat. Does anyone here actually think voters will flock to such a candidate? I didn't think so.
The GOPe doesn't care what happens to the country as long as they keep their power and position. The actual welfare of American citizens matters to them less than that forgotten banana peel lying in the gutter.
Hello President Clinton. Goodbye America.
Posted by: Nancy at April 01, 2016 12:22 PM (0J6YE)
Also remember parties exist to win elections. Nothing more. Nothing less. To win, our candidate needs to peel off enough of the middle and keep the right. The entire ticket needs to be evaluated for that.
If amnesty is the only issue, there are no candidates that will fit that bill. On any issue, any possible candidate will have a heresy. A fact of life.
In order: Ryan, Haley, Abbott, Martinez, Scott (of SC), perhaps Scott (of Fla). I doubt Daniels would run. Pence, perhaps? Willing to hear other names, but hearing a lot of silence.
Posted by: Vairish84 at April 01, 2016 01:16 PM (hjp//)
No, because it's a dumb idea.
No, because parachuting a candidate in (think Alan Keyes 2004, Walter Mondale, etc.) almost never works.
No, because the Rules Dont Allow It. Rule 40 = 8 state majority delegations. They'd have to change that to "nominate whoever the hell you want" - to sneak Mitt in, so ... Ron Paul?!? Gary Johnson?!? Tom Tancredo?!? Sarah Palin!??
No, because a majority of delegates will be genuinely for Cruz and/or Trump and they don't want that.
Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at April 01, 2016 01:17 PM (yTnTP)
better than when you were concern trolling whether Christians could
really accept Trump's faith."
Warfare now beats a redo of the Todd Akin campaign,
Trump-style, in the fall ... and 4 years of Hillary.
ugggg.
Problem with Trump boosters is they have a rotten lying, unfit, unqualified and unelectable candidate and keep thinking that any conservative people telling them he's a rotten candidate is a sign of Establishment Eeevil LibMedia Conspiracy GroupThink ... when it's just facts and logic.
Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at April 01, 2016 01:21 PM (yTnTP)
TRUMP ALREADY IS.
The latest Fox poll had it at 51% Hillary, 38% Trump.
Blowout landslide unelectability.
Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at April 01, 2016 01:22 PM (yTnTP)
gets it, his people will revolt en masse and not support the nominee."
Yawn. Trump's base is old white people who get easily conned into buying Time Shares and are the targets for those ads making people invest in gold.
The uneducated part of his base are Reality TV fans.
Nobody can make stupid people vote, and even if they could I'm not sure it's a great idea.
We have an easier job defeating Hillary without Trump's base than with Trump as a candidate.
Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at April 01, 2016 02:20 PM (yTnTP)
"And, I'm not claiming Trump is conservative. I'm arguing that voters
are fed up with being lied to about every single issue by the GOP."
Trump is a non-conservative RINO. and Trump is an untrustworthy liar. And he gets support from people who are sick and tired of untrustworthy lying non-conservative RINOs.
Trump is a symptom of the problem...
NOT THE SOLUTION.
Posted by: Keep Calm Cruz On at April 01, 2016 02:22 PM (yTnTP)
Posted by: Kaliofornia Kafir at April 01, 2016 03:28 PM (pM95H)
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