Trump: After National Defense, Health Care and Education are Two of the Federal Government's Most Important Functions<br>Oh, By The Way, Women Who Have Abortions Should Be "Punished" With a Legal Penalty

Trump: After National Defense, Health Care and Education are Two of the Federal Government's Most Important Functions
Oh, By The Way, Women Who Have Abortions Should Be "Punished" With a Legal Penalty

This Wall is getting more and more expensive every single day.

On the Other Hand... Trump announces that we must "punish" women who have abortions, with a penalty to be determined later.

This will play well in the general so everything's cool.

PS, Yes, I know, no one believes him -- he's just pandering to social conservatives. I know everyone knows he's actually pro-choice.

Still, it won't play well, and it shows how little he's considered any of these issues.

Oh, and before the Trump People scold me for the anti-Trumpian heresy of reporting the news, you should know this is already making headlines in other countries.

Posted by: Ace at 02:36 PM

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1 Ack!

Posted by: HH at March 30, 2016 02:37 PM (DrCtv)

2 Is federeal government reckoned in sidereal time?

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at March 30, 2016 02:38 PM (iynDC)

3 He also added "And the fourth thing is you guys - Free Bacon".

Posted by: Roy at March 30, 2016 02:39 PM (VndSC)

4 (Yes, I'm an asshole.)

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at March 30, 2016 02:39 PM (iynDC)

5 Open mouth, insert foot...... again....

Posted by: donna at March 30, 2016 02:39 PM (O2RFr)

6 This one should end well.

Posted by: Tim in GA at March 30, 2016 02:39 PM (tAsfd)

7 he forgot "delivering the mail"...

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 30, 2016 02:39 PM (ZQfW9)

8 Why couldn't he have forgotten at least one of those?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 30, 2016 02:39 PM (Qvgg/)

9 The GOP is reaping what it has sown.

Posted by: davidt at March 30, 2016 02:39 PM (8aOqE)

10 I'll bet you a nickel he can't name three Cabinet-level departments HE'D eliminate. Any takers?

Posted by: Qoheleth at March 30, 2016 02:40 PM (iIzG7)

11 Can we get Mexico to pay for TrumpCare? Smart people, really smart, terrific people, will make that deal for us.

Posted by: MTF at March 30, 2016 02:40 PM (/m8T6)

12

UGH

he thinks this is what women want to hear

blech

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 02:40 PM (zOTsN)

13 9 The GOP is reaping what it has sown.
Posted by: davidt at March 30, 2016 02:39 PM (8aOqE)

Alas, too true. The GOP: Begun in earnest, terminated in farce.

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at March 30, 2016 02:40 PM (iynDC)

14 The real responsibilities and authorities delegated to the Federal government are listed in the Constitution. Anything not there is supposed to be retained by the States and the people.

Healthcare and education are NOT listed.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 30, 2016 02:41 PM (vvmPQ)

15 This is Yuuuuuuge!

Posted by: donna at March 30, 2016 02:41 PM (O2RFr)

16 Unfortunately, most people think that is true.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 02:41 PM (gmeXX)

17

he said something about improving neighborhoods too

he is trying to court the suburban woman voter

how.....GOPe

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 02:41 PM (zOTsN)

18 My theory (and I think it is well supported) is that Trump is gaining a lot of support from 1) open primaries 2) Democrats who feel abandoned by THEIR party, mostly working class whites.

Call it whatever you like, but I just don't see a lot of GOP support beyond about 50%.

Posted by: navybrat at March 30, 2016 02:41 PM (8QGte)

19 Perhaps he misheard the question, and thought he was being asked which three items the federal government has completely screwed up.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 30, 2016 02:41 PM (Qvgg/)

20 Ronald Raven would be rolling over in his grave if he could hear that.

Posted by: [ . ]-[ . ]--, at March 30, 2016 02:42 PM (H9MG5)

21
How is this different from the planks of the GOP today?

Some of you seem upset that Trump isn't a good enough fake conservative for you during election season.

You like to be lied to by really good Republican liars, not this vulgar non-politician liar off the street.

Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 02:42 PM (puzNN)

22 I bet he can't name three cabinet positions.

Posted by: Roland THTG at March 30, 2016 02:42 PM (QM5S2)

23 It's a TV show now.

http://tinyurl.com/zofjfuc

Posted by: DaveA at March 30, 2016 02:42 PM (DL2i+)

24 He actually listed housing in there.

Posted by: Unfettered Power at March 30, 2016 02:42 PM (mcm0N)

25 This isn't really new though. Didn't he already say that the ACA's failure was more about not making a "great deal"? Because that's what he does, makes great deals.

Posted by: Flyguy at March 30, 2016 02:43 PM (8DgV/)

26 We now bring you the #NeverTrump part of this "shutup and support the booger-eater Cruz" blog...

There is no hope in us.

Posted by: Support the bogger-eater, Ted Cruz! at March 30, 2016 02:43 PM (IQI2h)

27 I want to see more snowflakes pepper sprayed in the face.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 30, 2016 02:43 PM (iQIUe)

28 The statement shows a clear misunderstanding of government's role in our lives. Unless the government is a Western European socialist government. Obama's Fundamental Change is becoming more mainstreamed and acceptable it looks like. We are half a loaf Socialists right now as it stands.

Posted by: kraken at March 30, 2016 02:43 PM (FqXvH)

29 why, its almost as if he got this tip from Kasich

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 02:43 PM (zOTsN)

30 Ugh.
Just awful.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 30, 2016 02:43 PM (NOIQH)

31 Will this flaming radioactive biohazardous trainwreck of a candidacy EVER be over?

Posted by: stace at March 30, 2016 02:43 PM (ozZau)

32 I been seeing that Obama's approval ratings have been up lately, even though he's done nothing positive. I suspect it's peoples reaction to Trump v Clinton.

Posted by: GregV61 at March 30, 2016 02:43 PM (H0lcY)

33 Speaking of Marquette, yes I know that was the last thread, roll with it, new Marquette Poll out today.

Cruz 40
Trump 30
Kasich 21

Last Marquette Poll had Trump up by double digits.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2016 02:44 PM (/tuJf)

34 My Department of Education is gonna be sooo Yuge everyone will commonly love the core of it! Think big!

Posted by: Trump at March 30, 2016 02:44 PM (lNK80)

35 Department of Fabulous Luxurious Stuff.

Posted by: Roland THTG at March 30, 2016 02:44 PM (QM5S2)

36 25 This isn't really new though. Didn't he already say that the ACA's failure was more about not making a "great deal"? Because that's what he does, makes great deals.
Posted by: Flyguy at March 30, 2016 02:43 PM (8DgV/)

If all you've got is negotiation then everything is a deal. (And there are no principles.)

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at March 30, 2016 02:44 PM (iynDC)

37 31 Will this flaming radioactive biohazardous trainwreck of a candidacy EVER be over?

Yes in November.... Hail Hillary!

Posted by: donna at March 30, 2016 02:44 PM (O2RFr)

38 Wonder who else will get into the Donald's ear to say what else is important.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 02:44 PM (fizMZ)

39 Trump: After National Defense, Health Care and Education are Two of the United States' (Federeal) Government's Most Important Functions

Glad you're being more honest than CNN, ace.

From the linked article's video ...
Q: "Is [Healthcare] something the federal government should be doing?"

Trump: "The government can lead it, but it should be privately done ... We have to have private healthcare."

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 02:44 PM (uURQL)

40 why, its almost as if he got this tip from Kasich

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No, because Kasich would not have forgotten to mention delivering mail somewhere in the list

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 30, 2016 02:44 PM (Qvgg/)

41 So the party that faceplanted on a slam-dunk in '12 is complaining that the best-performing candidate in the primaries will faceplant on a slam-dunk in '16.

Really, I want all these bozos from all the factions locked in a dark room to be struck repeatedly in the knees and shins by midgets with aluminum baseball bats and nightvision goggles. So I know them when they come limping down the street.

Baka.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 30, 2016 02:44 PM (9krrF)

42 So sayeth the guy who has his own university.

Posted by: SGT York at March 30, 2016 02:44 PM (fD3MM)

43 The cross currents in this election are going to be huge and spectacular.

Posted by: Unfettered Power at March 30, 2016 02:44 PM (mcm0N)

44 Gee.

Trump sounds like your basic, classic Democrat.

Who knew?

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 02:44 PM (s5o+q)

45 someone tell me how this is different from Bush or Rubio or Kasich

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 02:45 PM (zOTsN)

46 Free birth control should be in there somewhere, shouldn't it?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 30, 2016 02:45 PM (8ZskC)

47
We have become used to the dog and pony show every four years when we all pretend the Republican party and Republican candidates are as conservative as we.

As much as Trump sucks and as much as Trump is stupid, at the end of the day he's just a slightly less unpolished turd than the typical unpolished Republican turds.

Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 02:45 PM (puzNN)

48 I don't owe anybody an education or healthcare. I already donated 22 years to national defense, as did many on this site. On top of paying taxes for 50 years. Talk about earning an education and healthcare that way, eh?

Posted by: Eromero at March 30, 2016 02:45 PM (zLDYs)

49 It is astonishing that his admirers aren't saying to themselves "gee, this guy is a total moron". Beyond that, he appears to not value women at all, and of course, that will be his downfall in the general should he get that far. How his fans can't see that he's nothing other than an overgrown baby, demanding he get his way every single day is beyond me. He's laughable, a big joke...if it were't so scary how far he's come. I still have hope that people will open their eyes to him before it gets to the general.

Posted by: Sassy at March 30, 2016 02:45 PM (q7eWh)

50 Trump is trying to wrangle in and corral the Social Security Boomers and the In-debt-Up-To-Their-Asses Millenial slackers.

Donald Trump: A man of tact with a keen sense of his moron-level audience.

Posted by: Fritz at March 30, 2016 02:45 PM (UzPAd)

51 Left-wing Populist has Left-wing priorities, News at 11. Just because the anger/emotion he's tapped into is on "the Right" doesn't mean he isn't the same guy he's always been. Also, an elbow-rape apologist.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 30, 2016 02:45 PM (2cS/G)

52 The real responsibilities and authorities delegated to the Federal government are listed in the Constitution. Anything not there is supposed to be retained by the States and the people.

Healthcare and education are NOT listed.

Neither is DOT
HUD
USDA
EPA
etc

Posted by: rickb223 at March 30, 2016 02:45 PM (bVtr0)

53 And no, I'm not on Team Trump, I'm barely even satisfied with his performance as the form of the Destroyer at this stage. No discipline at all.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 30, 2016 02:46 PM (9krrF)

54 Well, tomorrow he'll say what he meant to say is that the federal government's job is to disseminate those duties to the states and make sure they stay that way. And anyone trying to say otherwise is mean, angry, hates America and is probably some kind of alien from andromeda.

We should build an Earth wall. It'll be yuuggeeee.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at March 30, 2016 02:46 PM (WuRdh)

55 Heh, ace, you should see post #2 over at my place.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 30, 2016 02:46 PM (tM4uk)

56
Canoeing. Free canoeing. You can bring your dog, beer, lunch.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 30, 2016 02:46 PM (iQIUe)

57 I want to see more snowflakes pepper sprayed in the face.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 30, 2016 02:43 PM (iQIUe)

And you'll get nothing but rubber dong!

Posted by: Draki at March 30, 2016 02:46 PM (lNK80)

58 Soon the wall will be as big as my schlong.

Posted by: Donald the Trump at March 30, 2016 02:46 PM (BDZWU)

59 He forgot light bulbs. That's right there in the constitution.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 30, 2016 02:46 PM (8ZskC)

60 28 We are half a loaf Socialists right now as it stands.

Posted by: kraken at March 30, 2016 02:43 PM (FqXvH)

We were halfway socialist before Trump was born. That began with that "national hero" Teddy Roosevelt, accelerated commie racist Wilson, and really took off with Teddie's "cousin"(?) FDR. The became 100% with LBJ.

We are working on communism now with the government nationalizing who segments of the US economy.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 30, 2016 02:46 PM (vvmPQ)

61 33 Speaking of Marquette, yes I know that was the last thread, roll with it, new Marquette Poll out today.

Cruz 40
Trump 30
Kasich 21

Last Marquette Poll had Trump up by double digits.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2016 02:44 PM (/tuJf)

**************

Conducted over Easter weekend.

Posted by: Unfettered Power at March 30, 2016 02:46 PM (mcm0N)

62 >>>UGH

he thinks this is what women want to hear

blech

...

i've predicted this -- that as his appeal falls due to his gross personal failings, he would begin attempting to make up for that with liberal pandering.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 02:46 PM (dciA+)

63 Trump's fans are already defending this. Yeah, Trump's not conservative and has already begun stabbing us in the back, but the GOP does that too. The GOP doing it was the entire reason we got ANGRY!!! and backed Trump, but when Trump does it it's not a problem because we're ANGRY!!!

Cruz, on the other hand, has been tested on this. He held firm. He's one of the rare good ones who can take the heat. Trump just doesn't have the spine for this like Cruz does, and Trump is too worried about how he looks on TV.

Posted by: Dustin at March 30, 2016 02:47 PM (a7sQX)

64 He has himself lodged in the gaping maw of the GOP and is stabbing it in the eyes as it gags and chokes....

Posted by: Mr Wizard at March 30, 2016 02:47 PM (X/2ij)

65 It is astonishing that his admirers aren't saying to themselves "gee, this guy is a total moron". Beyond that, he appears to not value women at all, and of course, that will be his downfall in the general should he get that far. How his fans can't see that he's nothing other than an overgrown baby, demanding he get his way every single day is beyond me. He's laughable, a big joke...if it were't so scary how far he's come. I still have hope that people will open their eyes to him before it gets to the general.
Posted by: Sassy at March 30, 2016 02:45 PM (q7eWh)

No, Trump supporters are going "Yeah, baby, you go, Donald! Stick it to 'em! Yeah!"

Government by cheerleading squad is what we have had for some time now.

Trump is merely the latest iteration of the phenomenon.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 02:47 PM (s5o+q)

66 Yep, back to work.
See ya'll next nood.

Posted by: IP at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (aQQbl)

67 My theory (and I think it is well supported) is that Trump is gaining a lot of support from 1) open primaries 2) Democrats who feel abandoned by THEIR party, mostly working class whites.
---

This is correct.

Trump supporters are often refugees from the Democratic Party.

And just like Syrian refugees, we should stop and think for a moment before accepting them.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (UBBWX)

68 His actual answer when asked to to list 3 priorities of the govt
was Security, Security, Security which he specified meant national security and securing our border.

When pressed to name 2 other areas. He said education and said that meant getting rid of Common Core and sending authority over schools back to states. He defined healthcare as meaning getting rid of Obamacare and replacing it with something based in private health insurance.

Not the best answer, but he never said he wanted the govt more involved in either education or healthcare.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (2x3L+)

69 Left-wing Populist has Left-wing priorities, News at 11. Just because the anger/emotion he's tapped into is on "the Right" doesn't mean he isn't the same guy he's always been. Also, an elbow-rape apologist.

Posted by: Lincolntf

help me

tell me how these comments, and the policy positions they represent, are different form those held by Rubio or Bush or Kasich

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (zOTsN)

70 Ah, he's moving to the center.

If he was moving left he would have said gay marriage and uni-sex bathrooms.

Posted by: Meremortal, back at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (3myMJ)

71 Has the US ever elected a populist president? Jackson maybe?

William Jennings Bryan lost to William McKinley.

Who else would you call a populist? Not a politician.

Posted by: Welcher Cleaveland at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (6LGZD)

72 Everytime he speaks I am reminded of this scene from Billy Madison...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0&list=RDwKjxFJfcrcA&index=2

Posted by: scofflaw_x at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (y9ZJX)

73 i've predicted this -- that as his appeal falls due to his gross personal failings, he would begin attempting to make up for that with liberal pandering.

--------------

I think you give him too much credit.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (gmeXX)

74 21
How is this different from the planks of the GOP today?
-------------------------------------------------

Hmmm...there is that to consider.

Posted by: MTF at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (/m8T6)

75 This Ace person treats me very unfairly. This used to be a smart military blog. Sad.

Posted by: Donald Trump at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (OD2ni)

76
btw, this blog went into deep depression when Joe Miller was running in Alaska and made the mistake of talking like a small government conservative.

Admit it, you don't really want someone to talk like a conservative on the campaign trail. You'd be afraid of the optics and all that shit.

Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 02:49 PM (puzNN)

77 How is this different from the planks of the GOP today?
-------------------------------------------------

Hmmm...there is that to consider.
Posted by: MTF at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (/m8T6)

That's why upthread I said **classic** Democrat.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 02:49 PM (s5o+q)

78 Trumps already called for more taxes in Wisconsin instead of reforming the unions.

Trump is already moving left.

By June he'll be nationalizing banks.

No, i'm not joking.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 02:49 PM (UBBWX)

79 Debate question I'd love to see:

"Mr. Trump, please expound on what the 9th and 10th Amendments mean to you".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 30, 2016 02:49 PM (1xUj/)

80 >>Not the best answer, but he never said he wanted the govt more involved in either education or healthcare.

He has said he wants the gov't more involved in healthcare many, many times.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2016 02:49 PM (/tuJf)

81 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 30, 2016 02:46 PM (vvmPQ)

Good point Vic. The EPA was the biggest vehicle for de facto nationalization of industry and resources. Thanks so much, Dick Nixon, Republican.

Posted by: kraken at March 30, 2016 02:49 PM (FqXvH)

82
Wrong, ill-informed, inarticulate and liberal are no way to go through life. Boy.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 30, 2016 02:49 PM (p4UlV)

83 No, Trump supporters are going "Yeah, baby, you go, Donald! Stick it to 'em! Yeah!"

It's way too expensive to visit DC and New York and yell at everybody who needs it individually. And their security will pepper spray you - at best.

Posted by: DaveA at March 30, 2016 02:50 PM (DL2i+)

84 >>I bet he can't name three cabinet positions.

I came name three positions I'd like to have that hottie over there in the cabinet.

Posted by: The Donald at March 30, 2016 02:50 PM (c7vUv)

85 Hey, folks, relax already. He considers the wall part of national defense. Really.

Posted by: RM at March 30, 2016 02:50 PM (U3LtS)

86 What happened to this blog? Damn...its a mess.

I get that Ace doesn't like Trump but does it require three anti-Trump articles every day to prove it?

If you don't like candidate A, B, or C...don't vote for them.

It really is a simple as that.

Posted by: monique at March 30, 2016 02:50 PM (+0t2Z)

87 Trump's fans are already defending this. Yeah, Trump's not conservative and has already begun stabbing us in the back, but the GOP does that too. The GOP doing it was the entire reason we got ANGRY!!! and backed Trump, but when Trump does it it's not a problem because we're ANGRY!!!

Uh, words and soundbites in the election season are not backstabs.

Backstab is action - like passing legislation that maintains and grows previous levels of spending.

GOPe has a history of failure. Trump won't have any comparable failures to the GOPe until he takes office.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 02:50 PM (uURQL)

88 i've predicted this -- that as his appeal falls due to his gross personal failings, he would begin attempting to make up for that with liberal pandering.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 02:46 PM (dciA+)

It's actually worse than that.
Think of Trump as the car salesman telling you exactly what he knows will get you to buy the car because it's what you wan to hear.
So as he shifts to the general he's going to shift to more free shit, because sadly that's what nearly 50% of the population wants to hear.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 30, 2016 02:50 PM (tM4uk)

89 i've predicted this -- that as his appeal falls due to his gross personal failings, he would begin attempting to make up for that with liberal pandering.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 02:46 PM (dciA+)

really, uni party pandering

its no different than Bush or Kasich or Rubio. Throw in Christie too

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 02:50 PM (zOTsN)

90 Government by cheerleading squad is what we have had for some time now.

Trump is merely the latest iteration of the phenomenon.
Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 02:47 PM (s5o+q)

Sis boom bah! Rah rah rah! Gooooooo Head Weasel!

Posted by: The Naked Head Weasels Cheering Corps at March 30, 2016 02:50 PM (iynDC)

91 If this type of crap sells, the the GOPe position begins to make sense:

Run on cutting taxes, and do nothing else. That way the donor class minimizes their subsidy to a collapsing society. The fact that the GOPe tacitly admits that their platform will lead to a societal collapse is not mentioned, however.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 30, 2016 02:50 PM (Qvgg/)

92 Cupcakes, too. Don't forget the importance of cupcakes.

Posted by: Furious George at March 30, 2016 02:51 PM (3GAnN)

93 Debate question I'd love to see:

"Mr. Trump, please expound on what the 9th and 10th Amendments mean to you".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 30, 2016 02:49 PM (1xUj/)

"Those amendments, those are great amendments, really great! I mean, without those two, we would only have eight amendments in the first ten, right? And that wouldn't be good at all. In fact, I think we should have more of them. We should build a wall! And I'm gonna build a wall! And Mexico is gonna pay for it!"

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 02:51 PM (s5o+q)

94 "58 Soon the wall will be as big as my schlong.
Posted by: Donald the Trump"

Oh please darling. I've had Asian men that were bigger than you.

Posted by: Ivana Trump at March 30, 2016 02:51 PM (OD2ni)

95 Trumps already called for more taxes in Wisconsin instead of reforming the unions.
Trump is already moving left.
By June he'll be nationalizing banks.
No, i'm not joking.
Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 02:49 PM (UBBWX)

If you're not joking, do you track your predictions and check your success rate?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 02:52 PM (uURQL)

96 This Ace person treats me very unfairly. This used to be a smart military blog. Sad.

Posted by: Donald Trump at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (OD2ni)

Run Ace! He's going to strap you to the front of the RV again!

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Rent Your Hill To Die On from the Outrage Outlet! at March 30, 2016 02:52 PM (hLRSq)

97 What matters is how they differ from Cruz', and I think there's substantial distance between them. Better for you to ask how well Elizabeth Warren's priorities would align with Trump's.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 30, 2016 02:52 PM (2cS/G)

98 69 Left-wing Populist has Left-wing priorities, News at 11. Just because the anger/emotion he's tapped into is on "the Right" doesn't mean he isn't the same guy he's always been. Also, an elbow-rape apologist.

Posted by: Lincolntf

help me

tell me how these comments, and the policy positions they represent, are different form those held by Rubio or Bush or Kasich
Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (zOTsN)

Which positions? The ones Trump had yesterday or the ones he has today?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 30, 2016 02:52 PM (MSiSP)

99 I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!

Posted by: Donald J. Biden at March 30, 2016 02:52 PM (H9MG5)

100 >>Yes in November.... Hail Hillary!
Posted by: donna

I didn't hear your heels click when you said that.

Posted by: Hillary at March 30, 2016 02:52 PM (c7vUv)

101 Trump's instincts are bigger government.

That means when it comes to make those wonderful deals, guess who will roll him?

Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 02:52 PM (UBBWX)

102

Teddy Roosevelt was a populist

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 02:52 PM (zOTsN)

103 Debate question I'd love to see:

"Mr. Trump, please expound on what the 9th and 10th Amendments mean to you".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 30, 2016 02:49 PM (1xUj/)

I heard he was going to "mount Ace on the hood of my Maybach" but I didn't think that was what he meant.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 02:53 PM (s5o+q)

104 Politicians are all about rape culture. Raping the citizenry, that is. Trump doesn't seem so new or different now.

Posted by: MTF at March 30, 2016 02:53 PM (/m8T6)

105 You know what is going to be cool---when Trump takes Obama's Arab Spring chaos theory and goes nuclear with it.

Hell it almost looks rational to let South Korea and Japan get nukes after Madeline Albright et al did the North Korean deal and now Obama and Iran.

Economic chaos, defense organizational chaos and nukes everywhere--what could go wrong!

Let's Shake and Bake This Whole Thing UP! Trump 2016

Posted by: Unfettered Power at March 30, 2016 02:53 PM (mcm0N)

106 Willowed:

Totally OT, but I just want to pop-in to say that the Geraghty piece linked in the sidebar is ace-level brutal poetry.

Posted by: DocJ at March 30, 2016 02:36 PM (zrsn3)

No it isn't. This is the same magazine that told some white communities to just die. Add in today's trade article which is just regurgitated talking points and NR is still worthless.

Is Trump most of what they said he is, yes. That's not the point though. The point has always been what has people gravitating to Trump. NR aren't listening to that. Instead Geraghty unleashes this article that makes me want to vote for Trump just to say screw you.

The establishment needed to offer some compromises and some changes. Had they done that and not attacked Trump, they would have siphoned off his support. Instead Geraghty is all upset that SJW's won't think Republicans are nice.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at March 30, 2016 02:53 PM (nY/mU)

107 I can't imagine what Trump's son-in-law (the one married to Ivanka) must be thinking in private. I'm guessing he has to feel beyond ashamed right now.

Posted by: Sassy at March 30, 2016 02:53 PM (q7eWh)

108 17
he said something about improving neighborhoods too
he is trying to court the suburban woman voter

how.....GOPe
Posted by: ThunderB
-------------------
And housing. Didn't he say something about housing?
Yeah, he'll turn around eight years of TFG's Reign Of Error.

Posted by: Chi at March 30, 2016 02:53 PM (LUPlG)

109 >>What happened to this blog? Damn...its a mess.

I get that Ace doesn't like Trump but does it require three anti-Trump articles every day to prove it?

...

First Rule of Trump Club: You must mention Trump five times a day.

Second Rule of Trump Club: All of these mentions must be positive.

Hey sorry monique but I have to occassionally cover the current front-runner for the GOP nomination... sorry if you think that's not "news," or that I should Trumpify it so that you don't experience a moment of Trump Buyer's Remorse.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 02:53 PM (dciA+)

110 Why can't everyone just trust him? He'll figure it all out once he's in there.

Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at March 30, 2016 02:54 PM (2bryz)

111 I don't know why, but every time Trump opens his mouth, I think of Nehemiah Scudder.

Posted by: Qoheleth at March 30, 2016 02:54 PM (iIzG7)

112 Trump could use the campaign song--

White Riot by The Clash.

Posted by: Unfettered Power at March 30, 2016 02:54 PM (mcm0N)

113 The 10th Amendment died long ago.
Trump is just pissing on the grave.

Posted by: wooga at March 30, 2016 02:54 PM (litLv)

114 I get that Ace doesn't like Trump but does it require three anti-Trump articles every day to prove it?

If the news is that someone's a dog, you blog about the pedigree.

Support who you like, but do so with eyes open. If you still want him, that's your call and your conscience.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 30, 2016 02:54 PM (9krrF)

115 "If you're not joking, do you track your predictions and check your success rate?"

No. I'm not paid enough for that.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 02:54 PM (UBBWX)

116
Have any of you even considered the possibility that those 2 shithead dairy farmers (and all the other idiotic Wisconsin questioners last night) were true representatives of the typical Republican voter today?

Trump is the least of your worries, is what I'm saying here in my comments. You conservatives have much bigger fish to fry.

Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 02:54 PM (puzNN)

117 he said something about improving neighborhoods too

he is trying to court the suburban woman voter

how.....GOPe

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 02:41 PM (zOTsN)

If that is his aim, it won't work.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 02:55 PM (3JA/M)

118 Top 3 Issues for Mitch The Bitch, Paul Ryan, Juan McCain and the rest of the super duper totes conservative GOP.

#1 Destroy Tea Party

#2 CoC says Jump, ask how high

#3 Two words...Am-Nesty!

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 30, 2016 02:55 PM (0LHZx)

119 Hey sorry monique but I have to occassionally cover the current front-runner for the GOP nomination... sorry if you think that's not "news," or that I should Trumpify it so that you don't experience a moment of Trump Buyer's Remorse.

---------

This sounds like a Marquette University safe space violation.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 02:55 PM (gmeXX)

120 Posted by: monique at March 30, 2016 02:50 PM (+0t2Z)

It's a blog owned by ace to post what ace is thinking. Do you not get that concept?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 30, 2016 02:55 PM (MSiSP)

121 I can't imagine what Trump's son-in-law (the one married to Ivanka) must be thinking in private. I'm guessing he has to feel beyond ashamed right now.

Posted by: Sassy at

why do you assume you know how he feels dear sassy

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 02:55 PM (zOTsN)

122 Trump supporters now wish the media would not cover him so much. Amazing!

Live feeds from his rallies back then we're cool.

Now its all "Can we hide from his statements?"

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 02:55 PM (UBBWX)

123 Debate question I'd love to see:

"Mr. Trump, please expound on what the 9th and 10th Amendments mean to you".

President rickb223: Means a lot of federal workers are going to be looking for work on January 20th, 2017.

Now, show me ONE presidential contender EVER that has said and meant that.

Otherwise, please STFU about that shit as a litmus test.
St. Reagan didn't even believe in that.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 30, 2016 02:56 PM (bVtr0)

124 Trump could use the campaign song--

White Riot by The Clash.
Posted by: Unfettered Power at March 30, 2016 02:54 PM (mcm0N)

He'd totally win me over if he came out to something by the Dead Kennedys.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 02:56 PM (s5o+q)

125 How about any of the other candidates promise real border security instead of more visas for immigrants who will do the job Americans won't do?

Even with the wall putting Trump in the lead, the others are/were too chickenshit about enforcing the borders.

Posted by: Valiant at March 30, 2016 02:56 PM (3MiF8)

126 Trumpdiddlyicious!

Posted by: Ned Flanders at March 30, 2016 02:56 PM (HgMAr)

127 Geraghty's piece is sort of silly, claiming credit for being "right on Trump" when he was wrong on so much of his reasoning. If Geraghty claims credit for finding Trump a nut I think it's still an open question as to whether he was smart or just a blind squirrel.

Posted by: MTF at March 30, 2016 02:56 PM (/m8T6)

128 New Trump spin:

Pointing out that the front runner for the GOP nomination is a complete fraud on conservatism is a waste of time. Cover something important instead.

A magazine said liberal a few months ago, so they cannot say Trump is saying something liberal today and I want to vote for Trump despite him being a fake conservative even more just to say SCREW YOU YOU FAKE CONSERVATIVES.

Posted by: Dustin at March 30, 2016 02:56 PM (a7sQX)

129 "Debate question I'd love to see:

"Mr. Trump, please expound on what the 9th and 10th Amendments mean to you".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 30, 2016 02:49 PM (1xUj/)"

In fairness, I remember in bar review class from years ago, the instructor said the 9th Amendment was always the wrong answer on the multiple choice questions.

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 30, 2016 02:57 PM (OD2ni)

130 Telling people what they want to hear, followed occasionally by giving them what they want is pandering, or populism. Extremely dangerous stuff in our time considering how fucked up this country is, the country that elected Obama. Twice.

Posted by: kraken at March 30, 2016 02:57 PM (FqXvH)

131 Trump wants a marketplace healthcare system.

True or not?

Posted by: eman at March 30, 2016 02:57 PM (mR7Es)

132 So if I've read correctly, all 3 R candidates have stated that they will NOT support whoever the nominee is? Wow, this will be fun.

Posted by: Cheri at March 30, 2016 02:57 PM (oiNtH)

133 Tricksy Trumpses! He takes our precious he does! we'll fix him! Yes we will! GOP-em!

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Rent Your Hill To Die On from the Outrage Outlet! at March 30, 2016 02:57 PM (hLRSq)

134 He's a democrat, I screamed at people backing him on twitter alienating ~1/3d my tweeps he is a democrat....

A democrat is leading the GOP caucus....

"nice work DC GOP"

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:57 PM (g8Hfr)

135

I need a safe space....

Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 30, 2016 02:57 PM (HSmrB)

136 Jeez I found myself actually rooting for Anderson Cooper there.

Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at March 30, 2016 02:57 PM (2bryz)

137 "Top 3 Issues for Mitch The Bitch, Paul Ryan, Juan McCain and the rest of the super duper totes conservative GOP.

#1 Destroy Tea Party

#2 CoC says Jump, ask how high

#3 Two words...Am-Nesty!"

Trump said he'd let all the "good ones" back in.

Trump hires illegals all the time, brings in Polish and Romanian laborers, too.

Better put him in with Mitch and the Gang.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 02:57 PM (UBBWX)

138
One last point:

To us, Trump is poorly informed when it comes to politics. But to most, Trump is informed when it comes to politics. People today are very ignorant. Trump represents these people very well.

Making fun of Trump's lack of knowledge (or opinion) on the main functions of the federal government is a waste of time. It does not matter.

Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 02:58 PM (puzNN)

139 >>I can't imagine what Trump's son-in-law (the one married to Ivanka) must be thinking in private. I'm guessing he has to feel beyond ashamed right now.

You don't think Trump turned into this guy when he decided to run for President, do you?

Newsflash: Trump has always been like this.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2016 02:58 PM (/tuJf)

140 In seriousness, you almost have to laugh so you don't cry.

If you click through to the link, you read Cooper pressing for some sort of coherent answer and Trump simply flailing away and just being so, well...Trump.

Hard to process what we have come to here.

Posted by: RM at March 30, 2016 02:58 PM (U3LtS)

141 Remember all those candidates and elected politicians that said all the "right" things?

Too bad they never did any of them.

Posted by: Meremortal, back at March 30, 2016 02:58 PM (3myMJ)

142 White Riot by The Clash.

"Straight to Hell" has these lyrics, suitable for our coming trade wars:
Lemme tell bout your blood, bamboo kid. It ain't Coca-Cola, it's rice.

Posted by: wooga at March 30, 2016 02:58 PM (litLv)

143 Of course SE Wisconsin is a huge school choice area and MPS is quite possibly the worst government run schools in the country...so bad that Arne Duncan even called it a disgrace.

But by all means Donald keep hyping government run education as one of your platforms here in Wisconsin.

Posted by: H Badger at March 30, 2016 02:58 PM (n/0Nw)

144 My theory (and I think it is well supported) is that Trump is gaining a lot of support from 1) open primaries 2) Democrats who feel abandoned by THEIR party, mostly working class whites.
---

This is correct.

Trump supporters are often refugees from the Democratic Party.

And just like Syrian refugees, we should stop and think for a moment before accepting them.

Posted by: Harun
..................
Many of the primaries are closed from here on out.. Wisconsin is open, but it looks like Cruz will take that - winner-take-all!
So we may (please dear God) see Trump actually start falling behind in delegate counts from here on out.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 30, 2016 02:58 PM (so+oy)

145 102

Teddy Roosevelt was a populist
Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 02:52 PM (zOTsN)

He didn't win the Presidency as one.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 30, 2016 02:58 PM (MSiSP)

146 132 Posted by: Cheri at March 30, 2016 02:57 PM (oiNtH)

I walked to the bank today...

the yield on a 6 month CD minimum pony-up of 2500 is .1%....

thank God no candidate is talking about our funny money "recovery."

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:58 PM (g8Hfr)

147
Department of Fabulous Luxurious Stuff.
Posted by: Roland THTG at March 30, 2016 02:44 PM (QM5S2)
......................

Can I be Steak Czar?

Posted by: wth at March 30, 2016 02:58 PM (HgMAr)

148 I and my family live in re is not one woman n my circle of family, friends and acquaintances that can stand Donald Trump. In fact they are repulsed by him. And while I was at one point, mildly interested, I now find myself in agreement with them. In fact I'm starting to believe he really doesn't want the job, much like Ross Perot in 1992. Many similarities.

Posted by: Old Buffalo at March 30, 2016 02:58 PM (h/Gg/)

149 That means when it comes to make those wonderful deals, guess who will roll him?

Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.
Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 02:52 PM

(UBBWX)

dont forget McConnell!

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 02:58 PM (zOTsN)

150 No. I'm not paid enough for that.
Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 02:54 PM (UBBWX)

Then why should anyone care if you're not joking?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 02:59 PM (uURQL)

151 Why do I assume how he feels ThunderB?
Well, I did not say "I know how he must be feeling" did I?
I said: "I can't imagine what he must be thinking".

He's a Jewish man who comes from a respectable and well-known family in New York circles...there is the SLIGHT...albeit slight possibility that he is feeling quite ashamed to be associated with his asshole, moronic father.

Just a guess.

Carry On...

Posted by: Sassy at March 30, 2016 02:59 PM (q7eWh)

152 If you don't like what Trump said, just give him a few days and he'll say something different.

Posted by: brak at March 30, 2016 02:59 PM (MJuTN)

153 Seriously, the Fed has as its primary duty the running up of debt through a closely run public-private partnership.

The Federal Reserve-banks run the whole scam.

Now if a politician and bureaucrat can get rich from charging vyigrysh on the scam, why can't you?

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 30, 2016 02:59 PM (FtrY1)

154 >>>I can't imagine what Trump's son-in-law (the one
married to Ivanka) must be thinking in private. I'm guessing he has to
feel beyond ashamed right now.

Posted by: Sassy at March 30, 2016 02:53 PM (q7eWh)<<<

Pretty sure last night The Donald said they were huge admirers of Teddy Roosevelt (why they named their new baby after him), so they probably have no problem with Donald's Progressive tendencies. Hell, they may even be coaxing him further in that direction?

Posted by: strong like Bull (Moose Party) at March 30, 2016 02:59 PM (H9MG5)

155 Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 02:52 PM (uURQL)

Hey poliwogette is that you? If so can you reach out to me via twitter or some such.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 30, 2016 02:59 PM (tM4uk)

156 He didn't win the Presidency as one.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 30, 2016 02:58 PM (MSiSP)

Bull Moose Party?

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 02:59 PM (zOTsN)

157 I can't imagine what Trump's son-in-law (the one married to Ivanka) must be thinking in private

Hot rich fertile wife.
He will put up with anything to keep it going.

Posted by: wooga at March 30, 2016 02:59 PM (litLv)

158 In fairness, I remember in bar review class from years ago, the instructor said the 9th Amendment was always the wrong answer on the multiple choice questions.

Oh cool! You studied under Bork?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 30, 2016 03:00 PM (1xUj/)

159 "Trump wants a marketplace healthcare system.

True or not?"

You could ask this of absolutely any policy position whatsoever.

Posted by: RM at March 30, 2016 03:00 PM (U3LtS)

160 Ivanka is also smart.

Posted by: wooga at March 30, 2016 03:00 PM (litLv)

161 142 White Riot by The Clash.

"Straight to Hell" has these lyrics, suitable for our coming trade wars:
Lemme tell bout your blood, bamboo kid. It ain't Coca-Cola, it's rice.
Posted by: wooga at March 30, 2016 02:58 PM (litLv)

**********

Off to check it out. Thanks.

Posted by: Unfettered Power at March 30, 2016 03:00 PM (mcm0N)

162 Jesus Christ *I* am more qualified than Trump!

Posted by: Jeanne del norte at March 30, 2016 03:00 PM (jNYmq)

163 Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 30, 2016 02:58 PM (so+oy)

Sadly not WTA, it's Winner take congressional district and Kasich is being a jackass.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 30, 2016 03:00 PM (tM4uk)

164 What scares me more than this statement is that people have actually watched the GOP and DNC debates, and somehow don't think that 4 of the 5 candidates are completely unqualified.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 30, 2016 03:01 PM (Qvgg/)

165 No Jack, of course I don't believe he just turned into the bafoon he is overnight. But now people close to him like the son-in-law have to live, breathe and watch this every minute of the day. I still think Jared is wincing in private.

Posted by: Sassy at March 30, 2016 03:01 PM (q7eWh)

166 In Wisconsin, I meant. And the Marquette poll, which just came out shows Cruz with a 10 point margin over Trump. And they have been amazingly accurate.

Posted by: Old Buffalo at March 30, 2016 03:01 PM (h/Gg/)

167 So if I've read correctly, all 3 R candidates have stated that they will NOT support whoever the nominee is? Wow, this will be fun.
Posted by: Cheri at March 30, 2016 02:57 PM (oiNtH)

Yep, Rush mentioned it today. None of them committed to supporting whoever won the nomination. A pox on all of their houses.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at March 30, 2016 03:01 PM (nY/mU)

168 Trump hires illegals all the time, brings in Polish and Romanian laborers, too.

Better put him in with Mitch and the Gang.
Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 02:57 PM (UBBWX)

____

Really? he hires ILLEGALS all the time? What you mean is he hires legal immigrants from Poland and Romania. Don't play the left's game where legal and illegal immigrants are lumped in together.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 30, 2016 03:01 PM (0LHZx)

169 "Trump wants a marketplace healthcare system.

True or not?"

You could ask this of absolutely any policy position whatsoever.
Posted by: RM at March 30, 2016 03:00 PM (U3LtS)

Define "marketplace."

Define "healthcare."

Define "solution."

(Yes, yes,, I know, politics, definitions are for losers . . .)

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 03:01 PM (s5o+q)

170 He's a Jewish man who comes from a respectable and well-known family in New York circles...there is the SLIGHT...albeit slight possibility that he is feeling quite ashamed to be associated with his asshole, moronic father.

Just a guess.

Carry On...
Posted by: Sassy

I knew what you meant. I just wanted you to say it out loud

and why would no Jew support Trump in your opinion

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 03:01 PM (zOTsN)

171
He's a Jewish man who comes from a respectable and well-known family in New York circles...there is the SLIGHT...albeit slight possibility that he is feeling quite ashamed to be associated with his asshole, moronic father.

I assumed that he was a piece of shit...like Trump. Like Bush. Like Cruz. Like Clinton.

Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 03:01 PM (puzNN)

172 138 Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 02:58 PM (puzNN)

"if I do not follow the law who will?"

//Tiberius on why he couldn't save Piso

The law in this case is the US Constitution...if even the Republican candidates abandon any pretense of good stewardship over the Founding principles let us end the charade and find a nice Colonel we find acceptable and have a coup...

it'll save us the humiliation of "I want every child to have a unicorn" answers and send people like me into lifelong depression where we belong.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:01 PM (g8Hfr)

173 No it isn't. This is the same magazine that told some white communities to just die. Add in today's trade article which is just regurgitated talking points and NR is still worthless.

Blind squirrel. Broken Clock. NR.

None of this alters the general course Trump is still a Titanic-level disaster. Feel free to handcuff yourself to the rail as it goes down. His legacy is going to be the death of the GOP (good, and long overdue) and a 2-term Cankles Presidency should she live that long (very, very bad) - in other words, chaos.

Posted by: DocJ at March 30, 2016 03:01 PM (zrsn3)

174 156 He didn't win the Presidency as one.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 30, 2016 02:58 PM (MSiSP)

Bull Moose Party?
Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 02:59 PM (zOTsN)

He lost to Wilson.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 30, 2016 03:01 PM (MSiSP)

175 159 "Trump wants a marketplace healthcare system.

True or not?"

You could ask this of absolutely any policy position whatsoever.
Posted by: RM at March 30, 2016 03:00 PM (U3LtS)

Yeah so? I asked it regarding this one.

Posted by: eman at March 30, 2016 03:01 PM (mR7Es)

176 I doubt if many here think that Trump is dumb, but that's not really the point. I wouldn't let Thomas Sowell install p lumbing in my house.

Posted by: kraken at March 30, 2016 03:02 PM (FqXvH)

177 "He'd totally win me over if he came out to something by the Dead Kennedys.
Posted by: filbert"

I still enjoy the DK's, but it hard to listen to them without being reminded that Jello Biafra is such a smug, hypocritical d-bag.

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 30, 2016 03:02 PM (OD2ni)

178 Jesus Christ *I* am more qualified than Trump!
Posted by: Jeanne del norte at March 30, 2016 03:00 PM (jNYmq)

Jesus Christ I was a foreign national.

Also dead.

Although, according to many, he got better.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 03:02 PM (s5o+q)

179 Will this flaming radioactive biohazardous trainwreck of a candidacy EVER be over?

Yes in November.... Hail Hillary!

Posted by: donna at March 30, 2016 02:44 PM (O2RFr)

Nah... lets shoot for ending it in July

Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 03:03 PM (3JA/M)

180
But you're right, Sassy. Trump is practically the Fourth Reich.

Heck, Trump is practically the Fourth AND Fifth Reichs he is so huge and rich!

Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 03:03 PM (puzNN)

181 >>White Riot by The Clash.

>"Straight to Hell":
"Lemme tell bout your blood, bamboo kid. It ain't Coca-Cola, it's rice. "

"bankrobber"

Posted by: Malia Obama at March 30, 2016 03:03 PM (MvFEq)

182 Yep, Rush mentioned it today. None of them committed to supporting whoever won the nomination. A pox on all of their houses.

----------

Good - let's move on. Who cares if any of them will support the other one.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 03:03 PM (gmeXX)

183
0 for 3 ain't bad. Gimme 22 tries.

Posted by: Dr. Hussein - AA, BFD at March 30, 2016 03:03 PM (HgMAr)

184
In the UK when the tides come into these narrow rivers, it forms a wave for miles that you can surf. I've seen it before somewhere in York. They are fast and can be filled with debris but it does look like fun. You could probably drink beer while doing it, too.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 30, 2016 03:03 PM (iQIUe)

185 157 I can't imagine what Trump's son-in-law (the one married to Ivanka) must be thinking in private

Hot rich fertile wife.
He will put up with anything to keep it going.
Posted by: wooga at March 30, 2016 02:59 PM (litLv)

Good lord, you make her sound like 100 hectares of Ukrainian loam.

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at March 30, 2016 03:04 PM (iynDC)

186 Mr. Trump, could we please have more ideology and philosophy and less real solutions?

Seriously though, what has Trump been doing all these years when he should have been memorizing the constitution?

In his defense, Trump may been referring to what the most important CURRENT functions of the Federal Government are, rather than what they are supposed to be, or would be under a real Republican Presidency such as Jeb Bush' or John Kasich's. And I recall Trump promising to send education back to the states which would require a President or Supreme Court (Ha!) to effect.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at March 30, 2016 03:04 PM (kfcYC)

187 Jesus Christ I was a foreign national.

Also dead.

Although, according to many, he got better.

Oh, that right there is funny.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 30, 2016 03:04 PM (1xUj/)

188 @109: Ace, I'm not a Trumpster, have never been a Trumpster, and likely never going to be a Trumpster. I cut my political teeth on reading your site and feel that you've removed yourself from all serious discussions by posting only crap that is meant to piss off what Trumpsters you still have left here, at the expense of those of us who actually looked forward to meaningful dialogue from you.

Posted by: monique at March 30, 2016 03:04 PM (+0t2Z)

189 Everybody lost when Wilson was elected, especially blacks.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 30, 2016 03:04 PM (FtrY1)

190 Obviously another constitutional scholar in our midst. I would have said "post office, and letters of Marque."

Posted by: california red at March 30, 2016 03:04 PM (sBAYv)

191 "Which positions? The ones Trump had yesterday or the ones he has today?"

This is the correct answer. You can find quotes of Trump holding every conceivable position on any given issue. His supporters will cite the conservative ones. His opponents will cite the liberal ones. Both will be right. Everything makes more sense when you realize he's just making it up as he goes along.

Posted by: Myself at March 30, 2016 03:04 PM (5wiU6)

192 159 "Trump wants a marketplace healthcare system.

True or not?"

You could ask this of absolutely any policy position whatsoever.
Posted by: RM at March 30, 2016 03:00 PM (U3LtS)

Yeah so? I asked it regarding this one.

--------------

I'd say it is True in that he would say that, false in that he would not push for that. And ultimately, I don't think he really cares because it isn't going to affect him or his family in any way.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 03:04 PM (gmeXX)

193
Hey poliwogette is that you? If so can you reach out to me via twitter or some such.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 30, 2016 02:59 PM (tM4uk)

No, linking to her website. She dumped twitter, I believe.

Sorry, will relay that you're looking for her if I see her on the blog.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 03:05 PM (uURQL)

194 Trump wants a marketplace healthcare system.

True or not?"

You could ask this of absolutely any policy position whatsoever.

Posted by: RM at March 30, 2016 03:00 PM (U3LtS)

Yeah so? I asked it regarding this one.

Posted by: eman at March 30, 2016 03:01 PM (mR7Es)

False... he already came out in favor of the individual mandate and government funded universal insurance coverage. Neither one of those is "marketplace".

Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 03:05 PM (3JA/M)

195 190 Posted by: california red at March 30, 2016 03:04 PM (sBAYv)

Letters of Marque would solve the Somali and Caribbean pirate problems nicely.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:05 PM (g8Hfr)

196 " I still think Jared is wincing in private."

I have to think the whole family is wincing in private regardless of what they say.

Posted by: RM at March 30, 2016 03:05 PM (U3LtS)

197 So what will Melania's school lunches look like?

Posted by: wth at March 30, 2016 03:05 PM (HgMAr)

198 As always Trump leaves it to others (in his case his supporters) to explain what he actually means when he says all these things...the amount of wish-casting is yuuuuge.

Posted by: H Badger at March 30, 2016 03:05 PM (n/0Nw)

199 Ace, I'm not a Trumpster, have never been a Trumpster, and likely never going to be a Trumpster. I cut my political teeth on reading your site and feel that you've removed yourself from all serious discussions by posting only crap that is meant to piss off what Trumpsters you still have left here, at the expense of those of us who actually looked forward to meaningful dialogue from you.

Posted by: monique at March 30

there are other websites. You are not compelled to come here and be rude to our host. Or better yet you can start your own blog with "meaningful dialogue"

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 03:05 PM (zOTsN)

200 Funny -- if the wall is so minor and not worth all the other costs... why won't the GOP build it?

Posted by: Phelps at March 30, 2016 03:06 PM (WqdXn)

201 188 - omg, monique, get over yourself. It's his site, he can do what he wants. As he says a million and a five times: if you don't like it, don't stick around.

Posted by: Sassy at March 30, 2016 03:06 PM (q7eWh)

202 Health and Education...

Having a republican candidate state that these will be priorities is totally brilliant.

It's certainly a shame that we don't have more people that recognize this fact.

Posted by: jwest at March 30, 2016 03:06 PM (Zs4uk)

203 "dont forget McConnell!"

I think Trump could roll McConnel. He rolls himself.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 03:06 PM (UBBWX)

204 I missed the they will get them anyway so why not every country get nukes from Donald. There was a lot of gold I missed last night.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 03:07 PM (fizMZ)

205 193 Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 03:05 PM (uURQL)

Wonderful...

Polli was in essence the den mother for new hordelings who went Twatter.

I have not logged in in so long I did not notice she pulled the fade.

I am SO happy with the GOP primary season this cycle.

I *love* a community I have been in or near for a decade tumbling apart.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:07 PM (g8Hfr)

206 >>So what will Melania's school lunches look like?

Botox Franks and NO BEANS!

Posted by: Donald Trump's Forehead Merkin at March 30, 2016 03:07 PM (MvFEq)

207 For the last seven years and change, we've had King Putt constantly assuring us that one thing or another is his "top priority". Changing from day to day and sometimes from hour to hour.

Jobs? Obama's "top priority". Climate change? Also his "top priority". Dealing with the Islamic State? You guessed it! It's Obama's "top priority".

Of course, in the real world, you can have only _one_ top priority, singular and exclusive, and other things have to give way to it. The others have to be secondary or tertiary priorities. If everything is the top priority, nothing is. And an inability to effectually prioritize is a generally observed characteristic of weak executives in any type of organization.

So when you have Don Trump blustering that the top three responsibilities of the federal government are A, B, and C, and then seconds later saying that, well, no, the top three are actually A, A, and A, but then seconds after that, saying that, gosh, you know, B and C are in the top three too, stuffed in somehow along with A, A, and A, what does that sound like?

It sounds like Barack goddamned Obama, is what it sounds like.

And that's leaving aside the fact that Trump's chosen B and C options aren't even Constitutionally enumerated federal responsibilities.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 30, 2016 03:07 PM (noWW6)

208 Maybe we should change out the Hot Air button for a Breitbart button. After all, we don't use the HA button anymore.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 30, 2016 03:07 PM (Qvgg/)

209 Ace, that the Trump Haiku Tweet is genius. It deserves further exploration.

Posted by: Matticus at March 30, 2016 03:07 PM (p/5D/)

210 Yuuuuge budgets! Yuuuuuuge!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 30, 2016 03:07 PM (2PHKP)

211 47
We have become used to the dog and pony show every four years when we all pretend the Republican party and Republican candidates are as conservative as we.

No, I know very well that anybody who is as conservative as me will never get elected. So I settle for the candidate who is the MOST conservative.

That's not Trump, and saying "Trump is no different than Bush or Rubio on this matter" - why would that be a selling point in Trump's favor?

Now you're saying "He's no different than any of the RINOs!" Well, now, there's a real unusual way to attack Big Government (the whole reason we don't like the GOPe remember?) - elect a Big Government guy who thinks the yuge problem is that Big Gov isn't run by the right man -him.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 30, 2016 03:07 PM (u0lmX)

212 jwest,

Hey, you know the Democratic Party seems a better fit for you. They are all about more government in healthcare and education.

You should check them out.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 03:07 PM (UBBWX)

213
This is correct. Trump supporters are often refugees from the Democratic Party. And just like Syrian refugees, we should stop and think for a moment before accepting them. Posted by: Harun

And how do you suppose Cruz wins without them?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 30, 2016 03:08 PM (lKyWE)

214 So next he'll be telling me I will save 3000% on health insurance premiums?

Posted by: wth at March 30, 2016 03:08 PM (HgMAr)

215 Trump discusses Education in almost ever stump speech. He wants to get rid of Dept of Education and end Common Core. His biggest complaint is we spend the most money and rank below some third world countries. We need reform to spend less and get better results. His healthcare plan is Standard Republican for the majority of it, it's on his website.

I hardly Consider his Proposals on these matters shocking or unorthodox. The issues he brought up are those important to most Voters.

Posted by: JustSayin at March 30, 2016 03:08 PM (QeeWu)

216 I heard Cruz's response to question if he would support Trump as the nominee.

He said he was not in a habit of supporting people who attack his wife and children.

Did Trump say something or imply something about his children or was that just an extension of saying something about the mother of his children.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 30, 2016 03:08 PM (MSiSP)

217 So the only difference between Trump and Canckels is that Trump hasn't deliberately undermined national security for personal gain?

Posted by: Iblis at March 30, 2016 03:08 PM (9221z)

218 Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 03:05 PM (uURQL)

Ah OK. But that is her website? That's actually what I have a question about

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 30, 2016 03:08 PM (tM4uk)

219 there are other websites. You are not compelled to come here and be rude to our host. Or better yet you can start your own blog with "meaningful dialogue"
Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 03:05 PM (zOTsN)

Meaningful dialogue? Here? In the comments?

Shit! Did I miss ANOTHER staff meeting?

(I gotta upgrade to the Burnished Platinum-Vanadium-Titanium-Bitchin-Kickass Membership.)

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 03:08 PM (s5o+q)

220 Posted by: monique at March 30, 2016 03:04 PM (+0t2Z)

Forget it. People are too frustrated right now.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Rent Your Hill To Die On from the Outrage Outlet! at March 30, 2016 03:08 PM (hLRSq)

221 Really? he hires ILLEGALS all the time? What you
mean is he hires legal immigrants from Poland and Romania. Don't play
the left's game where legal and illegal immigrants are lumped in
together.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 30, 2016 03:01 PM (0LHZx)

He hires (or has hired in the past) both.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 03:09 PM (3JA/M)

222 Trump is the only candidate that the congress (both sides) will fight against if he proposes these things (which all are currently run by the feds)or for that matter anything . Is my cup half full assessment of if he wins. Get those basterds that write law to do their fuking jobs for once.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 30, 2016 03:09 PM (P/aDH)

223 Posted by: jwest at March 30, 2016 03:06 PM (Zs4uk)

It could be a smart move for the youth vote... if Bernie doesn't get in.... and since by all accounts pre 30 despises the crone.

Posted by: kraken at March 30, 2016 03:09 PM (FqXvH)

224 "Yeah so? I asked it regarding this one."

I didn't phrase it very well. Just trying to note that I do not think anyone can tell you what Trump truly wants or believes as to any policy. His beliefs seem to shift from moment to moment.

Posted by: RM at March 30, 2016 03:09 PM (U3LtS)

225 208 Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 30, 2016 03:07 PM (Qvgg/)

Tepid going full retard and hitching their wagon to Zuckerdouche was my final straw.

Hot Air is more dead to me than LGF, at least LGF had the courage of Chunk's convictions and went full SJW rather than just enriching the biggest SJW douche in America.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:09 PM (g8Hfr)

226 Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:07 PM (g8Hfr)

Word. This is the longest community I've hung around it by far, and the one I've been the most active in. Watching it slowly break apart makes me want to scream.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 30, 2016 03:10 PM (tM4uk)

227 52
The real responsibilities and authorities delegated to the Federal
government are listed in the Constitution. Anything not there is
supposed to be retained by the States and the people.

Healthcare and education are NOT listed.

Neither is DOT

HUD

USDA

EPA

etc

I want to discuss the above. In general i agree, however, in regards to the EPA, I disagree. The constitution calls for the federal government to do a number of things, including supporting the general welfare (see the preamble to the US constitution). In addition, in Federalist 39, Madison said that there was an inherent need for the federal government to be able to mediate disputes between the states.

Pollution is one such area in which you need the ability to have an over-reaching one size fits all policy area. Now, have the past few D admins taken this too far, yes, i would agree to that. But the basic need for an EPA is real and necessary, and because you can and actually do have situations in which a polluter in one state is given a pass because that pollution has more effects on residents of another state, you can see the need for an EPA. The other agencies, not as much. I would add to the list commerce, education too.

Posted by: JeffreyL at March 30, 2016 03:10 PM (mXv3y)

228

Im still waiting for Sassy to tell me why Jews should be embarrassed about Trump

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 03:10 PM (zOTsN)

229 >>So the only difference between Trump and Canckels is that Trump hasn't deliberately undermined national security for personal gain?

In fairness, he hasn't had the opportunity. Yet.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2016 03:10 PM (/tuJf)

230 Meaningful dialogue? Here? In the comments?

Shit! Did I miss ANOTHER staff meeting?

-----------

Still more meaningful than a Marquette University philosophy class.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 03:10 PM (gmeXX)

231 Trump discusses Education in almost ever stump speech. He wants to get rid of Dept of Education and end Common Core.

And it doesn't bother him in the slightest that Common Core is not a federal program and he'd have no means to defund it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 30, 2016 03:10 PM (1xUj/)

232 I didn't phrase it very well. Just trying to note that I do not think anyone can tell you what Trump truly wants or believes as to any policy. His beliefs seem to shift from moment to moment.
Posted by: RM at March 30, 2016 03:09 PM (U3LtS)

I firmly believe that first and foremost that Trump believes in Trump.

Everything else is window-dressing.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 03:10 PM (s5o+q)

233 Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:07 PM (g8Hfr)

Twitter dump was cause of speech policing there, IIRC.

Hopefully a non-SJW alternative pops up soon.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 03:10 PM (uURQL)

234 Hollleeeeee....read the transcript:

http://freebeacon.com/politics/trump-health-care-education-governments-functions/

No wonder people were saying Trump was flailing.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 03:10 PM (UBBWX)

235 68 His actual answer when asked to to list 3 priorities of the govt
was Security, Security, Security which he specified meant national security and securing our border.

When pressed to name 2 other areas. He said education and said that meant getting rid of Common Core and sending authority over schools back to states. He defined healthcare as meaning getting rid of Obamacare and replacing it with something based in private health insurance.

Not the best answer, but he never said he wanted the govt more involved in either education or healthcare.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (2x3L+)

Yep.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at March 30, 2016 03:11 PM (VMLbt)

236 So the only difference between Trump and Canckels is that Trump hasn't
deliberately undermined national security for personal gain?

--

That, plus I don't think he has killed anyone.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 30, 2016 03:11 PM (Qvgg/)

237 i messaged poli on fb.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 30, 2016 03:11 PM (0O7c5)

238 What I cannot fathom is why anyone who was a supporter of the TEA Party and its goals would ever think of Trump as a kindred spirit. He's not fond of the Constitution, and he certainly doesn't think we are taxed enough already (not enough to pay for everything he wants the Federal government to pay for).

Posted by: stuiec at March 30, 2016 03:11 PM (eetvJ)

239 I *love* a community I have been in or near for a decade tumbling apart.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:07 PM (g8Hfr)

"If you can keep your head when all about you,
Are losing theirs and blaming it all on you,"

Stay steady, buddy.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Rent Your Hill To Die On from the Outrage Outlet! at March 30, 2016 03:11 PM (hLRSq)

240 Sorry. I try to keep up but life always gets in the way. Brilliant-ass movie-ass review Ace ass-wrote of The Hateful-Ass Eight-Ass.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 30, 2016 03:12 PM (Nwg0u)

241 That, plus I don't think he has killed anyone.

3. or, thru inaction, allowed a human being to come to harm.

Posted by: t-bird at March 30, 2016 03:12 PM (mxCgt)

242 In addition, in Federalist 39, Madison said that there was an inherent need for the federal government to be able to mediate disputes between the states.

--------

Yeah, that's why we have a Supreme Court.

I didn't realize the EPA was primarily about mediating disputes between the states. Seemed like the EPA thinks its primary purpose is to dictate to the states and the people.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 03:12 PM (gmeXX)

243 226 Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 30, 2016 03:10 PM (tM4uk)

I'll weather the storm or I won't...

233 Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 03:10 PM (uURQL)

Ah good.

Trump Warz pushed me to the edge of the precipice...Twatter going full SJW in their usual 4 year cycle pushed me over it.

I hope she is well.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:12 PM (g8Hfr)

244 None of this alters the general course Trump is still a Titanic-level disaster. Feel free to handcuff yourself to the rail as it goes down. His legacy is going to be the death of the GOP (good, and long overdue) and a 2-term Cankles Presidency should she live that long (very, very bad) - in other words, chaos.
Posted by: DocJ at March 30, 2016 03:01 PM (zrsn3)

He may be but Cruz is the only one who might not be and the GOPe has done everything it can until recently to stop him as well. So of course it doesn't alter it but the GOPe pretty much put Trump in charge of the ship because they were too busy seeing how many illegals they could cram into the lower decks.

We were all going down with the ship anyways. The GOPe anointed candidate wasn't going to win. It was obvious from the indistinguishable field of candidates offered. If they can't stop Trump, how could they survived in the general?

BTW, I don't think Cruz stands a chance in the general either. He doesn't have good political instincts.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at March 30, 2016 03:12 PM (nY/mU)

245 Ah OK. But that is her website? That's actually what I have a question about
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 30, 2016 03:08 PM (tM4uk)

Yes, that's her website.

She was trying to link it in her nic and I was helping her figure it out.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 03:12 PM (uURQL)

246 Constitution? Old! I make deals! Progress!

Posted by: TRUMP at March 30, 2016 03:13 PM (MJuTN)

247 We now bring you the #NeverTrump part of this "shutup and support the booger-eater Cruz" blog...

There is no hope in us.
Posted by: Support the bogger-eater, Ted Cruz! at March 30, 2016 02:43 PM (IQI2h)

Nice persuasive analysis there.

Perhaps next time you can forego the ad hominem and try something more substantial.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 30, 2016 03:13 PM (ZKlDy)

248 Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 30, 2016 03:10 PM (tM4uk)
I love this place. Been coming here 10 years as lurker and poster. Will never leave except by the bosses invitation to do so. My hope is this current furor will pass, and any idiots and agente provacateurs will piss off eventually.

Posted by: kraken at March 30, 2016 03:13 PM (FqXvH)

249 I want to discuss the above. In general i agree, however, in regards to the EPA, I disagree. The constitution calls for the federal government to do a number of things, including supporting the general welfare

And when you get to that, ANYTHING can be justified.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 30, 2016 03:13 PM (bVtr0)

250 > 68 His actual answer when asked to to list 3 priorities of the govt
was Security, Security, Security which he specified meant national security and securing our border.

When pressed to name 2 other areas. He said education and said that meant getting rid of Common Core and sending authority over schools back to states. He defined healthcare as meaning getting rid of Obamacare and replacing it with something based in private health insurance.

Not the best answer, but he never said he wanted the govt more involved in either education or healthcare.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (2x3L+)

Ah, you cheated! You actually watched, and heard what he said! That's not fair- you're supposed to be TOLD what he said by various self-appointed experts...

Posted by: Support the bogger-eater, Ted Cruz! at March 30, 2016 03:13 PM (IQI2h)

251 Two items I could have handled...

Posted by: Rick Perry at March 30, 2016 03:13 PM (mxCgt)

252
206
Botox Franks and NO BEANS!
Posted by: Donald Trump's Forehead Merkin
...................

and two perfect orbs of fake Jello

Posted by: wth at March 30, 2016 03:14 PM (HgMAr)

253 >>BTW, I don't think Cruz stands a chance in the general either. He doesn't have good political instincts.

He's in second place and closing fast out of an original cast of over a dozen candidates. He's doing something right.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2016 03:14 PM (/tuJf)

254 Trump flubbed this question, but what he actually said doesn't exactly fit with the lede up top:

Transcript:

COOPER: Aren't you against the federal government's involvement in education? don't you want it to devolve to states?

TRUMP: I want it to go to state, yes. Absolutely. I want -- right now...

COOPER: So that's not part of what the federal government's...

TRUMP: The federal government, but the concept of the country is the concept that we have to have education within the country, and we have to get rid of common core and it should be brought to the state level.

COOPER: And federal health care run by the federal government?

TRUMP: Health care -- we need health care for our people. We need a good -- Obamacare is a disaster. It's proven to be...

COOPER: But is that something the federal government should be doing?

TRUMP: The government can lead it, but it should be privately done. It should be privately done. So that health care -- in my opinion, we should probably have -- we have to have private health care. We don't have competition in health care.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 30, 2016 03:14 PM (r1fLd)

255 239 Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Rent Your Hill To Die On from the Outrage Outlet! at March 30, 2016 03:11 PM (hLRSq)

Heh, I'm chill guy.

I am not so hypocritical I won't pretend I was not vehemently a #NeverChrispy or a #NeverRube or a #NeverYeb but I am primarily a "fuck Hillary" voter...

as such Trump agnostic and prefer Cruz or God please make it so Haley.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:14 PM (g8Hfr)

256
And it doesn't bother him in the slightest that Common Core is not a federal program and he'd have no means to defund it.

So who put the common in common core?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 30, 2016 03:14 PM (lKyWE)

257 Pollution is one such area in which you need the ability to have an over-reaching one size fits all policy area.

----------

Then pass a constitutional amendment giving the federal government the power to deal with it. If it is that important, the people will amend the Constitution. We have before.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 03:14 PM (gmeXX)

258 I don't have to respond to you about anything ThunderB.

I am Jewish, so I'm not simply throwing that out there. Jews -- as a whole - tend to be extremely tolerant of everyone. I don't think Trump's anti-Mexican tirade goes over too well with Jewish people, nor his apparent disdain for women. And since I come into contact with a lot of Jewish people as I am a regular at my synagogue, I can tell you that Trump is very much detested by that segment.

So, I stand by what I said. I have to think that Jared is cringing in private.

Posted by: Sassy at March 30, 2016 03:14 PM (q7eWh)

259 I heard Cruz's response to question if he would support Trump as the nominee.

He said he was not in a habit of supporting people who attack his wife and children.

Did Trump say something or imply something about his children or was
that just an extension of saying something about the mother of his
children.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 30, 2016 03:08 PM (MSiSP)

I took it more as a you don't attack families thing.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 03:14 PM (3JA/M)

260 "And how do you suppose Cruz wins without them?"

Yeah, that is a problem. But I don't want to "win!" if it ends up being Big Government Democrat but with a Wall or becoming "white nationalist"

Sorry. Principles over principals.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 03:15 PM (UBBWX)

261 So what will Melania's school lunches look like?

Posted by: wth at March 30, 2016 03

Perlette grapes with Ile de France Brie, with a bright crisp chardonnay!

Posted by: Cheri at March 30, 2016 03:15 PM (oiNtH)

262 didn't trump say that the feds should be involved in everyone getting a house?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 30, 2016 03:15 PM (0O7c5)

263 Tepid going full retard and hitching their wagon to Zuckerdouche was my final straw.

I enjoy going over there because Allah spent so much time trolling his readers with the prospect of Mitt Romney running. It gives me a little smile to watch Trump troll him because he gets so snippy then.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Rent Your Hill To Die On from the Outrage Outlet! at March 30, 2016 03:15 PM (hLRSq)

264 Assuming Trump v. Clinton this fall:

Is this the SMOD we've been waiting for?

If not, how would the national carnage we hoped SMOD would produce be any different?

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at March 30, 2016 03:15 PM (Y5I9o)

265 Sassy please tell me how Jared's being a Jew necessiitates embarassment over Trump

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 03:15 PM (zOTsN)

266 I didn't realize the EPA was primarily about mediating disputes between the states. Seemed like the EPA thinks its primary purpose is to dictate to the states and the people.

That wet spot in your bed is a navigable waterway!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 30, 2016 03:15 PM (bVtr0)

267 The lie is that "conservatives" want nothing to ever change, no matter how bad or unpleasant.

The truth is that "progressives" want to change everything, whether it needs it or not.

Just a thought to perhaps spark some agreement among those of us who are left here.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 03:15 PM (s5o+q)

268 BTW, I don't think Cruz stands a chance in the general either. He doesn't have good political instincts.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at March 30, 2016 03:12 PM (nY/mU)

I'm seeing more and more evidence that he pulled a Bill Clinton with his dick.

He's failed to honestly answer, "Yes, I have been faithful to my wife." He's instead given lawerly true but evasive statements.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 03:16 PM (uURQL)

269 That, plus I don't think he has killed anyone.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 30, 2016 03:11 PM (Qvgg/)

There's a ringing endorsement.
"TRUMP! I Never killed nobody!"

Posted by: Iblis at March 30, 2016 03:16 PM (9221z)

270
Me, trying to "sell" Trump? Ha!
I've called him ignorant and dumb.

I am merely trying to point out the inconsistencies in today's conservatives who run for cover the moment the Left fires back and the moment the "optics" no longer look favorable.

I am also mentioning the fact that today's conservatives tolerate all the Republicans' decades of lies and deceit. The hand-wringing over Trump cannot be taken seriously.

Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 03:16 PM (puzNN)

271 The Trump supporters keep comparing these positions to those of Rubio, Bush and Kasich. None of whom are still in the running, Kasich's delusions aside.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 30, 2016 03:16 PM (rwI+c)

272 If Trump had the ability to form a cogent sentence, perhaps misunderstandings of his intent wouldn't be so rampant.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 30, 2016 03:16 PM (2cS/G)

273 BTW, I don't think Cruz stands a chance in the general either. He doesn't have good political instincts.

He's in second place and closing fast out of an original cast of over a dozen candidates. He's doing something right.

------------

Seems to me he has shown to have very good political instincts. Now there may other reasons as to why you don't see him winning in the general, but that strikes me as one that is now well grounded.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 03:16 PM (gmeXX)

274
So the only difference between Trump and Canckels is that Trump hasn't
deliberately undermined national security for personal gain?

--

That, plus I don't think he has killed anyone.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 30, 2016 03:11 PM (Qvgg/)
........................

That and his shoes fit.

Posted by: Hillary!s feet at March 30, 2016 03:16 PM (HgMAr)

275

This Wall is getting more and more expensive every single day.

Posted by: Ace at 02:36 PM

Yeah, it is. Thank the GOP, because this is the monster they created and if you dodge the bullet this time, it's only going to be worse next time. However, when you realize that Ace is offering you a false choice, it's not nearly as frightening as he hopes it would be. He's making the claim that if it weren't for trump we'd have privatized health care and education. This of course isn't the truth. Even if the GOP ran the board and controlled Congress, the Presidency, and appointed 3 new justices we would just end up with more government. There actually is no choice, except that Trump has promised to get tough on immigration, and the GOP has sworn to open the flood gates.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 30, 2016 03:16 PM (flJ92)

276 You can include all the defenses of Trump you want. What I don't get is why he should be supported as opposed to a solid conservative who polls much better vs. Hillary and Sanders.

Posted by: AD at March 30, 2016 03:16 PM (Gytl7)

277 Basically Trump is a penis pump salesman.

Having a huge gazinga won't solve everything, and the chicks still want to "talk" afterwards.

Posted by: Unfettered Power at March 30, 2016 03:17 PM (mcm0N)

278
Trump this, Trump that,, meh.. I've sooooooo got this entire thing ~cackle, cackle-cackle, cackle, cackle, cough,,cough-cough-cough-cough-cough,,

*whew

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 30, 2016 03:17 PM (HSmrB)

279 Trump vs Clinton would be a slow burning SMOD that will still take many painful years to get to eventual ultimate destruction.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 03:17 PM (fizMZ)

280 Not the best answer, but he never said he wanted the govt more involved in either education or healthcare.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (2x3L+)

I have it on good Internets Authority that you're supposed to take a worst case interpretation of a conversational snippet and hold that as his One True Belief.

When none of us would do that to a friend we're talking with.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 03:18 PM (uURQL)

281 There's a certain amount of winging it in every campaign, but there's winging it and then there's making it up on a daily basis. Having actual, verifiable principles helps to tamp down the flailing.

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at March 30, 2016 03:18 PM (3hIZX)

282 279 Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 03:17 PM (fizMZ)

I enjoy light shows.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:18 PM (g8Hfr)

283 Well I see Ace decided to nut up and attack Trump where people can comment on it, rather than the cowardly blurbs in the sides stories.

I don't care as long as Trump enforces the immigration laws, which include a wall (or double fence, you know, a barrier). We have voted for and tried to elect "conservatives" since Ronald Reagan left office, and not one of them was willing to step forward and address the illegal immigration issue.

Oh, and lying, fornicating Teddy Cruz is OK as well. I'd vote for him.

Posted by: Dogbert at March 30, 2016 03:18 PM (cMqHE)

284 I don't have to respond to you about anything ThunderB.

I am Jewish, so I'm not simply throwing that out there. Jews -- as a whole - tend to be extremely tolerant of everyone. I don't think Trump's anti-Mexican tirade goes over too well with Jewish people, nor his apparent disdain for women. And since I come into contact with a lot of Jewish people as I am a regular at my synagogue, I can tell you that Trump is very much detested by that segment.

So, I stand by what I said. I have to think that Jared is cringing in private.
Posted by: Sassy at March 30, 2016 03:14 PM (q7eWh)

well, Sassy, I am a Jew too. And while I voted for Cruz I know several Jewish women who are voting for Trump. And yet they are Jews. Imagine

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 03:18 PM (zOTsN)

285 We're all Slim Pickens, riding the nuke out of the B-52's bomb bay, aren't we?

WOO-HOO!

WOOOOO-HOOOOOO!!!!!

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 03:18 PM (s5o+q)

286 Word. This is the longest community I've hung around it by far, and the one I've been the most active in. Watching it slowly break apart makes me want to scream.

Well it's the primaries, this too shall pass. Though I have to say Trump has surpassed Palin-mania for ire around here.

Posted by: brak at March 30, 2016 03:19 PM (MJuTN)

287 Ace,

I agree Trump is not conservative. I've always admitted that.

But, it's not like Cruz or Kasich are going to get rid of Obamacare or the department of education. Even if they truly want to, the GOP in congress is not going to allow it.

Even if Obamacare is "replaced", they are not going to take away the benefits that were already given out, so the costs are not going down.

Call me cynical, but history teaches us that the GOP does not take away gov't subsidies or entitlements nor reduce the size/cost of gov't.

This isn't a contest between a conservative outcome and a non-conservative outcome.

It's a contest between amnesty/globalism and having the American gov't put American citizens first.

Trump isn't perfect by any means. I wish there were a far better messenger. But, absent Trump, Cruz would still be playing coy on amnesty (he was for it - claims he isn't now, but I don't believe it) and nobody would be talking about things like the Trans-Atlantic deal or what to do about muslim refugees.

the GOP is not a conservative party and actively works against conservatism. Even assuming Cruz is as conservative as he claims, he is not going to get anything conservative accomplished with the GOP as it is. Even Reagan, as great as he was - grew the gov't and grew debt. Because the GOP never had his back on anything relating to reducing the size/scope/cost of gov't. Sure, he did some good things vis a vis de-regulation, but whenever the left takes back over, they simply re-introduce all of those regulations and then some, and the GOP does next to nothing to roll back the expanded regulatory scheme.

The First Bush expanded gov't/spending. the Second Bush expanded gov't spending. the GOP congress under Obama has expanded gov't /spending. there is simply no historical evidence supporting the idea that a GOP president and GOP congress will do anything but expand gov't/spending - regardless of what they say in fund-raising emails and primary campaigns.

We have to look at long-term goals. Stop amnesty. Get the gov't to focus on what is good for American citizens. Punish the GOP to try and force it to move rightward.

So, this argument about "well Trump sure doesn't sound conservative" is pretty irrelevant in reality. Until we destroy the current incarnation of the GOP, we aren't getting anything conservative accomplished.

Not saying I wouldn't vote for Cruz if he is the nominee, but the idea that this is somehow truly a contest between conservative and "not-conservative" is an illusion at best.

Posted by: Golden at March 30, 2016 03:19 PM (3ZtZW)

288 I have altered the deal. Pray I do not alter it further.

Posted by: darth trump at March 30, 2016 03:19 PM (KUaJL)

289 Trump, Planned Parenthood donor and defender,just told Chris Matthews women should be punished for having abortions.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 30, 2016 03:19 PM (aq2+O)

290 I thought Trump was running and we were blowing up the GOP to get away from the positions of Bush, Kasich, and Rubio...?

Posted by: H Badger at March 30, 2016 03:19 PM (n/0Nw)

291 186 Mr. Trump, could we please have more ideology and philosophy and less real solutions?

Seriously though, what has Trump been doing all these years when he should have been memorizing the constitution?

In his defense, Trump may been referring to what the most important CURRENT functions of the Federal Government are, rather than what they are supposed to be, or would be under a real Republican Presidency such as Jeb Bush' or John Kasich's. And I recall Trump promising to send education back to the states which would require a President or Supreme Court (Ha!) to effect.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at March 30, 2016 03:04 PM (kfcYC)

He is running for President. Not the CEO of a real estate company. His 'real life' solutions have to be Constitutional. You should at familiarize yourself with the concept if you want to be President. Which he's talked about for over a decade. That would have been plenty of time.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 30, 2016 03:19 PM (MSiSP)

292 No, no. It just sounded stupid. It was secretly genius. Everything Trump does is intentionally genius and can someone show me how to tie my shoes, I forgot how again.

Posted by: Retarded people at March 30, 2016 03:19 PM (BqAWU)

293 Update: Trump says women who have abortions will necessarily have to be "punished" with a legal penalty to be established at a later date.

See post.

See? He's a real conservative, and he'll play well with blue collar socially liberal Democrats.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:19 PM (dciA+)

294 Trump vs Clinton would be a slow burning SMOD that will still take many painful years to get to eventual ultimate destruction.
Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 03:17 PM (fizMZ)

Sort of a political STD, then?

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 03:19 PM (s5o+q)

295 And it doesn't bother him in the slightest that Common Core is not a federal program and he'd have no means to defund it.>>>

Common core is funded like Light rail/Highway is funded by the feds. Yes the state picks the projects but no fed matching funds flow if the wrong projects are chosen. 18 yr old drinking age is not federal law but is pretty universal for some reason.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 30, 2016 03:19 PM (P/aDH)

296 Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:14 PM (g8Hfr)

There are five people running. Five volunteers, threw their hats in the ring.

*shrug*

There you are.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Rent Your Hill To Die On from the Outrage Outlet! at March 30, 2016 03:19 PM (hLRSq)

297 Trump flubbed this question, but what he actually said doesn't exactly fit with the lede up top:

Transcript:

I shouldn't do this, because I agree with the commenters above who mourn the loss of amity and spirited debate around here. Trump/Not-Trump has become binary and shouty and not fun.

On the other hand, I can't resist.

"We don't have competition in health care" is the only complete sentence in that transcript. The rest is just self-interrupting expostulations and bluster stomping.

I don't want to yell at Trump supporters. The way he speaks tells me that he is equally disorganized in his thinking.

This bothers me a lot.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 30, 2016 03:19 PM (1xUj/)

298 277 Basically Trump is a penis pump salesman.

Having a huge gazinga won't solve everything, and the chicks still want to "talk" afterwards.
Posted by: Unfettered Power at March 30, 2016 03:17 PM (mcm0N)

Having a massive mass of man meat is like being rich: it won't solve your problems but it will make your misery pleasurable.

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at March 30, 2016 03:19 PM (3hIZX)

299 Common Core is not a federal program

That's odd. It certainly appears to be a federal standard. Perhaps it is in the same category as Michelle's School Lunch program where non compliance with Michelle's menu items gets your school system fined by the federal government.

Posted by: Welcher Cleaveland at March 30, 2016 03:20 PM (6LGZD)

300 His actual answer when asked to list 3 priorities of the govt was...

Forget it, he's on a roll...

Posted by: t-bird at March 30, 2016 03:20 PM (mxCgt)

301 279 Trump vs Clinton would be a slow burning SMOD that will still take many painful years to get to eventual ultimate destruction.
Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 03:17 PM (fizMZ)

Yes, but...to paraphrase a great insight:

You get destroyed by the SMOD you have, not by the SMOD you might want or wish to have at a later time.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at March 30, 2016 03:20 PM (Y5I9o)

302 Then you know the two Jewish women in the country who are voting for the idiot, ThunderB. I have not encountered one Jewish person in my conversations who plans to vote for that imbecile.

Posted by: Sassy at March 30, 2016 03:20 PM (q7eWh)

303 I'm seeing more and more evidence that he pulled a Bill Clinton with his dick.

He's failed to honestly answer, "Yes, I have been faithful to my wife." He's instead given lawerly true but evasive statements.

I don't think you understand the definition of the word "evidence."

Posted by: wooga at March 30, 2016 03:20 PM (litLv)

304 >>Trump, Planned Parenthood donor and defender,just told Chris Matthews women should be punished for having abortions.

And if you saw it, you realize that he doesn't think any position through. He was caught totally off guard and was just winging the entire answer.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2016 03:21 PM (/tuJf)

305

Sassy you must live on the coast. If so, all these appalled Jews in your synagogue would be voting for Hillary, no matter who the Republican nominee is. In spite of the Iran deal.

Excuse me when I dont find their poor opinion of Trump dispositive of the issue

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 03:21 PM (zOTsN)

306 And when you get to that, ANYTHING can be justified.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 30, 2016 03:13 PM (bVtr0)

The Great Courses has a course on the Constitution and the arguments for and against. A lot of the against arguments have come true.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at March 30, 2016 03:21 PM (nY/mU)

307 Anderson Cooper had to step in to help remind him what his positions are.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 03:21 PM (UBBWX)

308
He's in second place and closing fast out of an original cast of over a dozen candidates. He's doing something right.

He is the beneficiary of non stop negative coverage by blogs,papers,radio and t.v news outlets.After WI where does Cruz win?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 30, 2016 03:21 PM (lKyWE)

309 276 You can include all the defenses of Trump you want. What I don't get is why he should be supported as opposed to a solid conservative who polls much better vs. Hillary and Sanders.

Who's the solid conservative? The one that passed out teddy bears and soccer balls at the border? What federal departments has he called for eliminating?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 30, 2016 03:21 PM (bVtr0)

310
Update: Trump says women who have abortions will necessarily have to be "punished" with a legal penalty to be established at a later date.

See? And now Trump is too damn conservative! The optics will suffer, yes they will.

Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 03:21 PM (puzNN)

311 See? He's a real conservative, and he'll play well with blue collar socially liberal Democrats.

Posted by: ace

--

He's a salesman. Don't like this policy? Ok, how about this one? Or this one?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 30, 2016 03:21 PM (Qvgg/)

312 I heard through the grapevine that Tsrbke wanted to talk to me?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 30, 2016 03:22 PM (GDulk)

313 Ace,

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(slips crisp $5 dollar bill across table)

Please take your time to consider our generous offer.

Best!

Posted by: Salem Media Group at March 30, 2016 03:22 PM (WBahS)

314 >>> I'm seeing more and more evidence that he pulled a Bill Clinton with his dick.

Well that settles it! I'm voting for the paragon of marital fidelity, Donald Trump!

Posted by: Ivana Trump at March 30, 2016 03:22 PM (dciA+)

315 312 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 30, 2016 03:22 PM (GDulk)

Yes, yes he does.

Hope you're well ma'am.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:22 PM (g8Hfr)

316 I have not encountered one Jewish person in my conversations who plans to vote for that imbecile.

Posted by: Sassy at March 30, 2016 03:20 PM (q7eWh)

No True Scotsman...

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Rent Your Hill To Die On from the Outrage Outlet! at March 30, 2016 03:23 PM (hLRSq)

317 "BTW, I don't think Cruz stands a chance in the general either. He doesn't have good political instincts."

If it were to happen, which I do not think it will, the media will Gingrichize him. He would be lampooned as a rigid, unlikeable, Bible thumping extremist on every late night show. Someone like Colbert will come up with one of those liberal sound bites like "The Gingrich who stole Christmas" and a few other memes that will stick. LIVs will buy into it. Ugh.

Posted by: RM at March 30, 2016 03:23 PM (U3LtS)

318 At least he didn't get asked to name 3 cabinet level departments.

zzzzz

Posted by: Rick Perry at March 30, 2016 03:23 PM (MJuTN)

319 wanted the govt more involved in either education or healthcare.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (2x3L+)

Him saying it on video is not sufficient evidence?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 30, 2016 03:23 PM (MSiSP)

320
253 >>BTW, I don't think Cruz stands a chance in the general either. He doesn't have good political instincts.

Remember who his probable opponent will be.

If Ted wants to lock in the male vote, all he need do is keep running a commercial with Cankles barking.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 30, 2016 03:23 PM (u0lmX)

321 305 - Funny, I don't remember asking what you thought.

Posted by: Sassy at March 30, 2016 03:23 PM (q7eWh)

322 "And if you saw it, you realize that he doesn't think any position through. He was caught totally off guard and was just winging the entire answer."

I listened to his Trump University ads, and he wings it there, too. He's getting sued because he said he would personally pick the instructors, but then couldn't recognize any of their names.

Its just a used car salesmen's con: say whatever you have to say to get them to sign and then renege on any verbal promises.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 03:23 PM (UBBWX)

323 I liked, and still like Trump's unwillingness to fold like a cheap suit in the face of the Media. That said, I lost most of my respect for him when he turned into a spoiled four-year-old following his loss in Iowa.

That moment seems to have poisoned the entire race on the GOP side. It's difficult to imagine followers of either Trump or Cruz supporting the other after all that hostility.

Funny how the Dems manage to stay civil, isn't it.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 30, 2016 03:23 PM (AroJD)

324 313 Posted by: Salem Media Group at March 30, 2016 03:22 PM (WBahS)

Bring back Doc Zero....

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:23 PM (g8Hfr)

325 Fox is saying Bernie is polling a few pts better than Hildabeast in Wisconsin

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 03:23 PM (fizMZ)

326
I have altered the deal. Pray I do not alter it further.
Posted by: darth trump
.....................

plus it was signed in invisible ink and printed in Arial .005pt

Posted by: wth at March 30, 2016 03:23 PM (HgMAr)

327 So, I stand by what I said. I have to think that Jared is cringing in private.

Posted by: Sassy at March 30, 2016 03:14 PM (q7eWh)

Also Jewish here.

I am also wondering if Ivanka is cringing in private.

I am also wondering how having a Jewish daughter and grandchildren plays with the segment of Trump supporters with a Celtic cross tattoo on one hand and an 88 tattoo on the other.

Posted by: stuiec at March 30, 2016 03:24 PM (eetvJ)

328 I don't want to yell at Trump supporters. The way he speaks tells me that he is equally disorganized in his thinking.

This bothers me a lot.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 30, 2016 03:19 PM (1xUj/)

Are you reading it, or listening to it?

Listening to it, it's fine as rhetoric. Top 3 priorities is security, security, security was a very solid statement.

Writing, you go for concise and logical. Public speaking, you need to tell the audience what you'll tell them, tell it to them, and tell them what you just told them.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 03:24 PM (uURQL)

329 "So the only difference between Trump and Canckels is that Trump hasn't
deliberately undermined national security for personal gain?"

Trump doesn't drink. Hillary is a toper.

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 30, 2016 03:24 PM (OD2ni)

330 309 276 You can include all the defenses of Trump you want. What I don't get is why he should be supported as opposed to a solid conservative who polls much better vs. Hillary and Sanders.

Who's the solid conservative? The one that passed out teddy bears and soccer balls at the border? What federal departments has he called for eliminating?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 30, 2016 03:21 PM (bVtr0

If Ted Cruz isn't a solid conservative, Trump might as well be Eugene Debs.

Posted by: AD at March 30, 2016 03:24 PM (Gytl7)

331 68 His actual answer when asked to to list 3 priorities of the govt
was Security, Security, Security which he specified meant national security and securing our border.

When pressed to name 2 other areas. He said education and said that meant getting rid of Common Core and sending authority over schools back to states. He defined healthcare as meaning getting rid of Obamacare and replacing it with something based in private health insurance.

Not the best answer, but he never said he wanted the govt more involved in either education or healthcare.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM

Thanks for your post. I read the headline and assumed that it was an honest assessment of what he said and or positions so I really didn't click on the link until after you mentioned this. A mistake I won't make again. I'm not a Trump fan at all. I'd rather see Cruz win it between the two of them. But the back and forth between the two camps is nauseating. It's bad when they lie about Cruz and just as bad when they do about Trump. Instead of an honest assessment of why you don't like the candidate, just make up your own bullshit that runs contrary to what the person actually said, that will surely get people to support your candidate!

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 30, 2016 03:24 PM (btH0m)

332 It's almost as if Trump is trying to provide evidence for the stereotype of conservatives as racist, xenophobic, misogynistic know-nothings that the MSM and the coastal elites have been peddling for decades. Except for the simple fact that Trump himself is a product of the MSM and a member of the coastal elite, he's the perfect representative of everything horrible they've always thought about us unwashed Yahoos out here in flyover land.

Posted by: The Regular Guy at March 30, 2016 03:24 PM (qHCyt)

333 Funny, I don't remember asking what you thought.

Posted by: Sassy at March 30, 2016 03:23 PM (q7eWh)

funny, I recall you inferring that all Jews agree with you

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 03:24 PM (zOTsN)

334 Don't. Piss. On. Ace's. Rug. Why is this hard to understand?

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at March 30, 2016 03:24 PM (3hIZX)

335 Giant Rubber Penises

All the way down.

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2016 03:24 PM (MvFEq)

336 He is the beneficiary of non stop negative coverage by blogs,papers,radio and t.v news outlets.After WI where does Cruz win?

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What do you mean by win? All he has to do is get a majority of delegates on a ballot. Right now, I'd bet he is the frontrunner to do that - but the same way that Trump is the frontrunner right now. In other words, bet the field against either Trump or Cruz.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 03:24 PM (gmeXX)

337 The guy who once gave teddy bears to illegals, versus gave the guy who spent years giving illegal jobs to illegals, pretty easy choice.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 30, 2016 03:24 PM (2cS/G)

338 Barrel-ass that shit.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 30, 2016 03:25 PM (2cS/G)

339 Ace really took a lot of time with that comment.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 03:25 PM (gmeXX)

340 334 Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:24 PM (dciA+)

Ewok come to me....

//the barrel

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:25 PM (g8Hfr)

341 Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:24 PM (dciA+)

Hahahaha!

You should ban yourself for that.

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2016 03:25 PM (MvFEq)

342 >>He is the beneficiary of non stop negative coverage by blogs,papers,radio and t.v news outlets.After WI where does Cruz win?

You have got to be kidding. Trump benefited enormously for the better part of a year from free, 7x24 press coverage. He was everywhere and rarely was the coverage less than fawning.

Now that there are only 3 left it's no longer TRUMP and the seven dwarfs. Cruz is actually getting something approaching equal coverage and Trump, well Trump is being Trump and a lot of people are starting to see what some of us have been saying for a long time.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2016 03:25 PM (/tuJf)

343 Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:22 PM (g8Hfr)

Yes, just busy with business and also generally avoiding political threads.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 30, 2016 03:25 PM (GDulk)

344 BARREL!

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at March 30, 2016 03:25 PM (Y5I9o)

345 >>>I don't want to yell at Trump supporters. The way he speaks tells me that he is equally disorganized in his thinking.

This bothers me a lot.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 30, 2016 03:19 PM (1xUj/)<<<

Look... I just... I mean, I hear a lot of people tell me that... c'mon it's a terrific, super great ~~stream of conscience~~ babbling brook way of speaking. Amazing!

Posted by: D. Trump at March 30, 2016 03:25 PM (H9MG5)

346 327 - my thoughts exactly.

Posted by: Sassy at March 30, 2016 03:26 PM (q7eWh)

347 wow

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 30, 2016 03:26 PM (0O7c5)

348 "The one that passed out teddy bears and soccer balls at the border?"

Don't give toys to the brown kids. Gotcha.

You do know Trump wants to let the "good ones" back in, right?

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 03:26 PM (UBBWX)

349 Did ace just ... what. I don't even

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 03:26 PM (uURQL)

350 Ace, my child. It's been a long time.....

Posted by: The Barrel at March 30, 2016 03:26 PM (PFy0L)

351 Before I thought either Trump or Cruz could beat Clinton. Now I think both will lose as a large percentage of Trump supporters will sit home if he's not the nominee and other right leaning people will stay home if Trump is the nominee in addition to the trainwreck that will be Trump in the General.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 30, 2016 03:26 PM (MSiSP)

352 Ace Johnson is right!

Posted by: Olsen Johnson at March 30, 2016 03:27 PM (FkBIv)

353 I think the barrel just threw up

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 30, 2016 03:27 PM (Qvgg/)

354
Don't give toys to the brown kids. Gotcha.

What is your name on the Democrat Underground forum?

Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 03:27 PM (puzNN)

355 Is he wrong? Why shouldn't women who go to the abortionist to have their children murdered serve at least a bit of time?

Posted by: GlobalWarmingIsReal at March 30, 2016 03:27 PM (FcGjD)

356 Have to believe that Trump wasn't just kidding all along and is now panicked that he might actually win this thing so he is self destructing on purpose. How else to explain his pointless attacks on Megan Kelly, Heidi Cruz, Amanda Carpenter, etc., etc., etc. Otherwise, we have to accept that millions of Americans are willing to put a narcissistic, sociopath in office. Oh, right, Obama...

Posted by: IanDeal at March 30, 2016 03:27 PM (teGBX)

357 What did I just see.....?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 30, 2016 03:27 PM (LA7Cm)

358 Starting to wonder if Trump is now actively trying to get out of this nomination and thinking. "Holy crap, what do I have to say to get you people to stop voting for me? Work with me, people. Do you have ANY limits?"

Posted by: ZBBMcFate at March 30, 2016 03:27 PM (k7D+q)

359 333- ummmm....no......never said that either....

Go take a nap. You need one.

Posted by: Sassy at March 30, 2016 03:27 PM (q7eWh)

360 "I don't want to yell at Trump supporters. The way he speaks tells me that he is equally disorganized in his thinking."

You make a fair point. Trump talks in a weird stream of consciousness. And I don't think you're yelling at me. Quite the contrary.

Trump flubbed his answer by not being clear. Not a good trait in a President. And he's had a very bad last two weeks that could lose him Wisconsin and kill his momentum to 1,237.

My point was that if you look at everything Trump said to Cooper and not an excerpt it doesn't fit the lede up top. There's a lot to criticize Trump about without needing to be misleading.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 30, 2016 03:27 PM (r1fLd)

361 "Jesus Christ I was a foreign national."

Yeah and He's angry.

Something about coming back to see crosses everywhere.

"You think JFK would want to come back and see sniper rifles up on walls all over the place?"

Posted by: Meremortal, back at March 30, 2016 03:28 PM (3myMJ)

362 Before I thought either Trump or Cruz could beat Clinton. Now I think both will lose as a large percentage of Trump supporters will sit home if he's not the nominee and other right leaning people will stay home if Trump is the nominee in addition to the trainwreck that will be Trump in the General.

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Certainly possible ... but hillary is so terrible ... its a year where nothing should shock us.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 03:28 PM (gmeXX)

363 And then the mobies arrive. Bah.

Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at March 30, 2016 03:28 PM (3hIZX)

364 wtf was THAT????

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2016 03:28 PM (/jecC)

365 I am sure Ivanka knows better than Sassy or I how he feels about Jews

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 03:28 PM (zOTsN)

366
Funny how quickly some of you 'staunch conservatives' resort to Leftist tactics.

Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 03:28 PM (puzNN)

367 273 BTW, I don't think Cruz stands a chance in the general either. He doesn't have good political instincts.

He's in second place and closing fast out of an original cast of over a dozen candidates. He's doing something right.

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Seems to me he has shown to have very good political instincts. Now there may other reasons as to why you don't see him winning in the general, but that strikes me as one that is now well grounded.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 03:16 PM (gmeXX)

Yeah, I note that Cruz's political instincts propelled him as an underdog into a US Senate seat, and have left him as second of a field of 17 - with a good shot at taking the lead.

Underestimate Ted Cruz's political skills at your own peril.

Posted by: stuiec at March 30, 2016 03:28 PM (eetvJ)

368 "The one that passed out teddy bears and soccer balls at the border?"

Don't give toys to the brown kids. Gotcha.

You do know Trump wants to let the "good ones" back in, right?

As I have been told repeatedly, Trump isn't the solid conservative.
So amnesty is ok, as long as it's from a solid conservative. Got'cha.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 30, 2016 03:28 PM (bVtr0)

369 Fox is saying Bernie is polling a few pts better than Hildabeast in Wisconsin

Can you imagine someone denying their socialism? As if they were ashamed of it?! Be proud and feel the Bern!

Posted by: Bernie, in Madison at March 30, 2016 03:28 PM (RrDm2)

370 I thought for sure this thread was broken

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 03:28 PM (fizMZ)

371 oh, now its gone. never mind..

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2016 03:28 PM (/jecC)

372 Holy Shit

Posted by: The Barrel at March 30, 2016 03:28 PM (rwI+c)

373 325 Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 03:23 PM (fizMZ)

so I go home to Ohio...

Yellow Springs the hippy commune in the county of my Birth has a hydroponics store the hippy types use to grow pot...

they have a Bernie Emblazoned American flag with "Finally a Reason to Vote!" with him in all his Crazy Fucking Uncle in the Attic Batshit Confused Grmpa Simpson on....

These people run the nation now folks.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:28 PM (g8Hfr)

374 Oh dear

I recently read an impassioned plea by someone leftist asking for Trump to just go away. But the note had something in it that was extremely disturbing to me. The author said that Trump appeals to the "unevolved."

Now, this is not simply dehumanizing your opponents, a ghastly but all-too-common thing in political arguments. This is borrowing the exact rhetoric of the Nazis in specific wording to describe those one disagrees with.

Now, before someone squeals "Godwin" and giggles like a dork, this is not an extension or an exaggeration. I'm not saying "down the road..."

That was one of the most fundamental and central planks of Nazis; that human beings are evolving, and some are evolving faster than others (perfectly reasonable given the basic theory), and so they're just... better. And any humans that aren't evolving as fast or in a different direction are corrosive and corrupting to human nature. Its just better to get rid of them, for the sake of the future and the gene pool.

Yes, that's where the "gene pool" by bad guys concept came from. The casual use of this term to describe "people I disagree with" is exceedingly disturbing.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 03:28 PM (39g3+)

375 In his defense, Trump may been referring to what the most important CURRENT functions of the Federal Government are, rather than what they are supposed to be, or would be under a real Republican Presidency such as Jeb Bush' or John Kasich's. And I recall Trump promising to send education back to the states which would require a President or Supreme Court (Ha!) to effect.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at March 30, 2016 03:04 PM (kfcYC)

Trying to defend Trump here is pretty useless.
That being said, some of us, myself included appreciate the information. I don't loathe Trump the way Ace or many of the horde do.

Ask anyone out on the street what the three most important functions of government are and you'll get

1. Blank stares
2. Military
3. Social programs, helping the poor
4. Schools.

The high and mighty informed here believe that if they stepped into a room of 50 of their neighbors, 45 of them would be able to recite the Preamble to the Constitution and then name in order, the Bill of Rights.

They forget that only about 5% of the population has ever served in the military. That most of the voting age population now were educated beginning in the 60's when history was rewritten and social engineering/programs became the new political religion.

In reality, the overall vast majority of voting Americans do not understand the founding of this country, they do not understand liberty or it's costs, they believe it is someone else's responsibility to do everything from fix the roads to educate their children to pay for health care. Ask any immigrant who has arrived here in the last ten or twenty years from a communist/totalitarian country and they will tell you that they were shocked at how ignorant Americans are regarding socialism, and how unappreciative they are of what this country has to offer, and how they are letting it fall away.

But by all means, let's trash the candidate who puts security of the nation foremost in his list. Let's rip him because he's not Thomas Paine on the stump.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 30, 2016 03:28 PM (ph1j2)

376 OK, that was out of line, I apologize.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 03:29 PM (UBBWX)

377 Well that's new.

Posted by: darth trump at March 30, 2016 03:29 PM (KUaJL)

378 Trump is gonna get beaten so bad in the general, he'll have to wear a big "loser" tattoo on his forehead for the rest of his life.

Does he know this? Does he realize how badly he will get beaten? Does he know what this will mean to his image, afterward?

And he cannot change his behavior to make it any less so.

His rabid supporters, who have demonstrated they would support him no matter what kind of a fool he makes of himself now, what will they feel like afterward?

They will be even bigger losers. Do they know this? Does it enter their so-called minds?

No, it does not. They think all polling that shows Clinton whalloping Trump is a sinister plot against him, and that somehow he will triumph.

He will not. They will be losers, and so will their champion.

Losers.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 30, 2016 03:29 PM (U6f54)

379 When pressed to name 2 other areas. He said education and said that meant getting rid of Common Core and sending authority over schools back to states. He defined healthcare as meaning getting rid of Obamacare and replacing it with something based in private health insurance.

Not the best answer, but he never said he wanted the govt more involved in either education or healthcare.
Posted by: L, Elle at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (2x3L+)

Nope, he clearly didn't know what he was talking about.

He was asked a simple question about what the top 3 functions of the Fed Gov't. He then says, it's security #1, but also healthcare and education. Then he says security x3 is his answer.

Then Anderson Cooper presses him for 2 more. He then says healthcare and education are next after security. Then goes on to talk about how dire the American security situation is (which is true, btw).

Then AC presses him for more details about the others. He then mentioned housing and great neighborhoods as other federal government functions.

It took ANDERSON COOPER to remind him that Republicans are supposed to be against federal government involvement in his #2 & #3 items. That's when he talks about Obamacare and common core and education being controlled at the state level. AC literally fed him the line about education being taken care of by the states.

I was watching the video again as I was typing it.

The man is clueless and to careless to fake being semi-conservative even with a D grade performance.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 30, 2016 03:29 PM (ZKlDy)

380 Totally not having a time machine means never having to spend time in the Barrel.

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2016 03:29 PM (MvFEq)

381
Fox is saying Bernie is polling a few pts better than Hildabeast in Wisconsin

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 03:23 PM (fizMZ)
____________________________

It's a right wing conspiracy...

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 30, 2016 03:29 PM (HSmrB)

382 >>>Ace,

Please allow me to say that we've been avid reader's of your blog for years and wanted to let you know that we are big fans of your writing. Your recent posts on Michelle Fields have been exemplary and frankly we feel, Pulititzer worthy, if there were such a thing for blogs.

We understand that this blog is your baby so we are fully prepared to submit an offer above market value for your product.

(slips crisp $5 dollar bill across table)

Please take your time to consider our generous offer.

Best!

Posted by: Salem Media Group

...

Oh I get it -- that's funny! You're saying the only reason to oppose the liberal ludicrious evil clown Trump is due to being bought off by somebody!

That's not just funny, that's completely novel! Why, the Trumptroopers NEVER make that claim!

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:29 PM (dciA+)

383 Here's where we are with the choices:

Clinton
Sanders
Trump
GOPe candidate

Given the last 8 years for R's and D's, I'm not so sure it really makes a difference who gets elected.

Posted by: Paradigm of distraction at March 30, 2016 03:30 PM (yI++G)

384 I don't think you understand the definition of the word "evidence."
Posted by: wooga at March 30, 2016 03:20 PM (litLv)

Based on what? Do you not get the concept of someone acting guilty?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 03:30 PM (uURQL)

385 You know, sometimes I get sick of this blog. And then Ace does something like that.... AND TOTALLY REDEEMS HIMSELF.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 30, 2016 03:30 PM (KUaJL)

386 As long as porn is left alone we're all OK...

Posted by: Mr Wizard at March 30, 2016 03:30 PM (X/2ij)

387 The one that passed out teddy bears and soccer balls at the border?"

Not that you care, but Cruz did not hand out teddy bears but rather accepted an invitation from Beck who was passing out these things along with medicine. Cruz accepted the invitation to try and throw a bad light on Obama by showing what he had created. You can google up his statements and speeches that took place at the time.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 30, 2016 03:30 PM (MSiSP)

388 Jen, that was the best defense of Trump here, yet.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 03:30 PM (UBBWX)

389 *too* careless

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 30, 2016 03:30 PM (ZKlDy)

390 Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:24 PM (dciA+)

Ummm....that was an impressive Charlie Foxtrot there Ace. I don't think I have ever seen Charlie Foxtrot quite like that.

Heh.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Rent Your Hill To Die On from the Outrage Outlet! at March 30, 2016 03:31 PM (hLRSq)

391 you should know this is already making headlines in other countries.

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After 7 1/2 years of Fredo and you're worried about this now?

Posted by: Soona at March 30, 2016 03:31 PM (Fmupd)

392 ummmm....no......never said that either....

Go take a nap. You need one.
Posted by: Sassy

super reasoning Sassy. You must live in NY

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 03:31 PM (zOTsN)

393 You do know Trump wants to let the "good ones" back in, right?

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 03:26 PM (UBBWX)

Yes, which is our long standing actual immigration law.
If you are deported for being here illegally, you can reapply to come back legally within a five to seven year period.

Nothing new. Simply following current existing law that has been in place for several decades.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 30, 2016 03:32 PM (ph1j2)

394 PS, Yes, I know, no one believes him -- he's just pandering to social conservatives. I know everyone knows he's actually pro-choice.

***

I've never heard a social conservative say women should be punished. Then again, I just now arrived in this thread, so anything is possible.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 30, 2016 03:32 PM (SEXy3)

395

And we have a new one: Trumptroopers! Like Stormtrooper but with trump instead of storm.

More please.

As I suggested yesterday, let's just make "trump" any word we desire, like smurf.

Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 03:32 PM (puzNN)

396 Ummm....that was an impressive Charlie Foxtrot there Ace. I don't think I have ever seen Charlie Foxtrot quite like that.

Seen it before. Not by Ace. Did it once myself.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 30, 2016 03:32 PM (bVtr0)

397 362 Before I thought either Trump or Cruz could beat Clinton. Now I think both will lose as a large percentage of Trump supporters will sit home if he's not the nominee and other right leaning people will stay home if Trump is the nominee in addition to the trainwreck that will be Trump in the General.

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Certainly possible ... but hillary is so terrible ... its a year where nothing should shock us.
Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 03:28 PM (gmeXX)

Hillary! is totally beatable. Her own "base" wants to feel the Bern instead of her. The only reason she's even in this race is the media.

Posted by: Iblis at March 30, 2016 03:32 PM (9221z)

398 the son of the mailman is the only clear choice. or, marco polo. or maybe granny clampet.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 30, 2016 03:33 PM (ucDmr)

399 Oh holy shit.

Ace, um....

*averts eyes*

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 30, 2016 03:33 PM (1xUj/)

400 Funny how quickly some of you 'staunch conservatives' resort to Leftist tactics.

Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 03:28 PM (puzNN)

Which tactics are the forbidden Leftist tactics and which are the approved tactics? I don't want to make a mistake here.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Rent Your Hill To Die On from the Outrage Outlet! at March 30, 2016 03:33 PM (hLRSq)

401 378:He will not. They will be losers, and so will their champion.

Losers.
Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 30, 2016 03:29 PM (U6f54)

How is this kind of rhetoric useful to your side? What are you trying to accomplish by calling people losers? If you're trying to persuade them out of their current position, how does this help?

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at March 30, 2016 03:33 PM (Y5I9o)

402 394 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 30, 2016 03:32 PM (SEXy3)

Barack Obama does however feel the coital act resulting in offspring *is* punishing his daughters.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:33 PM (g8Hfr)

403 This Trump guy is amazing, how does he remember this shit?

Posted by: Rick Perry at March 30, 2016 03:33 PM (HgMAr)

404 Trump is gonna get beaten so bad in the general, he'll have to wear a big "loser" tattoo on his forehead for the rest of his life.

-------------

Isn't what Trump really wants is to go into the convention shy of the votes and lose on the floor. He can then blame it on Cruz, the GOP, whomever. He can always claim he got the most votes. He doesn't risk losing in the general. And (heaven help us) even if he were to win, he doesn't have to spend the next four years doing something he'd probably rather not do.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 03:33 PM (gmeXX)

405 334 Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:24 PM (dciA+)

Posted by: The Memory Hole at March 30, 2016 03:33 PM (mxCgt)

406 "Seen it before. Not by Ace."

Yep. Once before. And she knows who she is.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 30, 2016 03:33 PM (LA7Cm)

407 Theoretically,

The input filter for the comments *should* be able to limit input to some finite number of characters. I have seen such a thing on other blogs even if the limit was 3k characters.

It just seems like the blog is run by 13 year old boys on some days. Charming in its own way.

Posted by: Welcher Cleaveland at March 30, 2016 03:34 PM (6LGZD)

408 Oh I get it -- that's funny! You're saying the only
reason to oppose the liberal ludicrious evil clown Trump is due to being
bought off by somebody!

That's not just funny, that's completely novel! Why, the Trumptroopers NEVER make that claim!

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:29 PM (dciA+)

I took it to mean that you might be willing to escape this situation at any cost now. Don't fret it's under a year now. Just think how much fun election season is going to be from now on!

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 30, 2016 03:34 PM (flJ92)

409 >>>After 7 1/2 years of Fredo and you're worried about this now?

no, but I'm pre-butting the Trumptroopers who like casually defaming people by claiming "You're just writing about this because you've been PAID TO."

a lot of trump people have to derail every discussion about policy into personal attacks. I wonder where they get that from.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:34 PM (dciA+)

410 Trump is just winging it. If he wins the nomination, he will keep winging it.

Should be fun to see who becomes his puppet.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 03:34 PM (UBBWX)

411 >>But by all means, let's trash the candidate who puts security of the nation foremost in his list. Let's rip him because he's not Thomas Paine on the stump.

Name me one Republican candidate in the last 50 years who hasn't listed national security as the most important duty of the President. I'll even lead aside that Trump's foreign policy sounds to the left of Obama.

His problem comes in issues 2 - 10 because he has no idea what he believes.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2016 03:34 PM (/tuJf)

412 Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:29 PM (dciA+)

Wait, you mean CJN could have been getting money every time I wrote a #NeverTrump post?

Folks I have a 15 month old, why was no one telling me this?

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 30, 2016 03:34 PM (tM4uk)

413 Trump is the only candidate that the congress (both sides) will fight against if he proposes these things (which all are currently run by the feds)or for that matter anything . Is my cup half full assessment of if he wins. Get those basterds that write law to do their fuking jobs for once.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 30, 2016 03:09 PM (P/aDH)

That's one reason why I think I'll vote Trump over Hillary too.

Posted by: Draki at March 30, 2016 03:34 PM (kkOK3)

414 Posted by: Minnfidel at March 30, 2016 03:24 PM (btH0m)

See my account of the exchange above. Or watch the video.

He thinks the federal government should be in charge of healthcare and education. Anderson Cooper had to rescue him from digging the hole too deep.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 30, 2016 03:35 PM (ZKlDy)

415 "President Trump, here are the results of the Brussels bombing"
"What bombing?"
"Sir...you ordered the 8th Air Force to Bomb Brussels this morning."
"And I totally meant that, but what's great about my deals is they're really great deals..we all win..and we're going to be winning now."
"Sir?"
"Blame it on Lyin' Ted"
"Sir?"

Posted by: Mr Wizard at March 30, 2016 03:35 PM (X/2ij)

416 Feel free to leave Trumpkins- there are better sites with more "meaningful dialogue" for you. If you merely like intellectually dishonest and completely childish discourse, then I recommend Breitbart. If you like fake reporting, then Jim Hoff's Gatewaypundit. If you just don't like black people or jews, check out Stromfront.

Posted by: bob at March 30, 2016 03:35 PM (OHyGW)

417 Will Melania's school lunches come in a box?

Posted by: wth at March 30, 2016 03:35 PM (HgMAr)

418 Lets pretend it is Arnold (you-know-who) instead of Trump. Arnold, in my opinion, is/was a worse R than Trump is. Who would you bet on to capture the LIV vote? They have let Arnold into their living room!

I think Trump will win if he gets the nomination. The funny thing is the GOPe and the Dems may have to let it be Trump vs Sanders to keep from self destructing. That would be funny.

Posted by: scorecard at March 30, 2016 03:35 PM (CzhL0)

419 French headlines....

I'm having to talk to people in _______.

Trump reminds us of Mao.

Uh. Huh.

Mao thrived and rose to power via chaos.

Uh. Huh.

Trump has a lot of confidence, reminds us of Mao.

Uh. Huh.

(I don't have the heart to tell them that Trump is not as smart as The Man from Hunan.)

Posted by: Unfettered Power at March 30, 2016 03:35 PM (mcm0N)

420 "How is this kind of rhetoric useful to your side? What are you trying to accomplish by calling people losers? If you're trying to persuade them out of their current position, how does this help?"

Trump is a master persuader, and he uses this technique.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 03:35 PM (UBBWX)

421 As I suggested yesterday, let's just make "trump" any word we desire, like smurf.
Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 03:32 PM (puzNN)

No trumping way!

Trump you, you trumping trumpity sack of trump!

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 30, 2016 03:35 PM (wZfYc)

422 leave

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2016 03:35 PM (/tuJf)

423 392 - wrong.
And I could not care less what you think....If I haven't made that clear.

Posted by: Sassy at March 30, 2016 03:35 PM (q7eWh)

424 >>>And we have a new one: Trumptroopers! Like Stormtrooper but with trump instead of storm.

More please.

As I suggested yesterday, let's just make "trump" any word we desire, like smurf.

Posted by: intellectual nudity

...

eh, maybe your fellow travelers should lighten up on the casual defamation if they wish to be treated with respect.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:35 PM (dciA+)

425 Oh do go on Ace, because in the General, as Trump sounds reasonable and can win over Libs like Piers Morgan on important issues like Security, it may go better for Trump than you insist.
Because, Let It Burn.

Posted by: zzBottom at March 30, 2016 03:36 PM (aHUpC)

426 Seen it before.

Yeah I have almost done it before. Its a trick that sometimes happens when you cut text, it swipes upward and copies everything above your cursor. Thankfully, so far, I've caught it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 03:36 PM (39g3+)

427 Hey, you know what would be really smart?

Ted Cruz could come out strong against Health Care and Education.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

Everyone would vote for him then.

And people say we're the stupid party...

Posted by: jwest at March 30, 2016 03:36 PM (Zs4uk)

428 On the Other Hand... Trump announces that we must "punish" women who have abortions, with a penalty to be determined later.

OTOH: He'll keep selling everythings until we've signed on the line that is dotted.
OT3rdH: Maybe blowing it in Wisconsin IS a valid exit strategy.

Posted by: DaveA at March 30, 2016 03:36 PM (DL2i+)

429 Hell Cruz is even with Hillary in Wisconsin right now while Trump is down almost 11 so I think were getting ahead of ourselves here.

Posted by: H Badger at March 30, 2016 03:36 PM (n/0Nw)

430 And we have a new one: Trumptroopers! Like Stormtrooper but with trump instead of storm.

*hums to the tune of Imperial March*

Trump, trump-a trump, trump-a trump, trump-a trump,

Trump, trump-a trump, trump-a trump, trump-a trump,

Trump! Trump! Trump-a trump! Trump trump, trump trump-a trump

Trump, trump-a trump, trump-a trump, trump-a trump!

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Rent Your Hill To Die On from the Outrage Outlet! at March 30, 2016 03:36 PM (hLRSq)

431 The Great Courses has a course on the Constitution

-
The Constitution: Threat or Menace?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 30, 2016 03:36 PM (Nwg0u)

432
And we have a new one: Trumptroopers! Like Stormtrooper but with trump instead of storm.
More please.

Jumping on their Trumpoline.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 30, 2016 03:37 PM (FkBIv)

433 I feel like this election season has been like the runup to Christmas when I was a kid.

The toy catalogs would come out in October. I'd ooh and aah over the new stuff, think about how THIS year will be different, and finally my childhood would be back on track.

Then Christmas would come and I'd get two pairs of socks, a $25 savings bond, and a box of Kaboom.

I've finally gotten too old to give a shit anymore about this. The GOP had a fantastic chance to shine, and they fucked it up. And now we have Jim Geraghty playing the "I told you so" game, as if they were backing a reasonable candidate to conservatives and the GOPe are the blameles victims in this passion play, so I just know the acrimony isn't going to be fixed. Ever.

So pox on it all.

Posted by: Witchdoktor at March 30, 2016 03:37 PM (eytER)

434 Mr. wizard, you're joking, but Trump literally brought up Jeb in a reply about tactical nukes and ISIS.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 03:37 PM (UBBWX)

435 Trump, running for POTUS. Seemed OK, said some things people were thinking. Made some sense. Then this!

Posted by: the Butcher at March 30, 2016 03:37 PM (AGJqR)

436 And I could not care less what you think....

Lot of that going around.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 30, 2016 03:38 PM (rwI+c)

437 433 Posted by: Witchdoktor at March 30, 2016 03:37 PM (eytER)

Jim Gergahty is a pimple on the ass of Zombie Buckley....

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:38 PM (g8Hfr)

438 Who here wishes they had mom to make them lunch every day in a bag or lunch pail still? Even if its something that disappoints you... lunch. Without work.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 03:38 PM (39g3+)

439 Posted by: Minnfidel at March 30, 2016 03:24 PM (btH0m)

He didn't say it at the Townhall. He's said it in numerous other interviews. That he says something different at the Townhall is more troubling.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 30, 2016 03:38 PM (MSiSP)

440 One of the most enjoyable AOSHQ threads was the 'talk like Trump' thread; Google it, its hysterical.

Posted by: the Butcher at March 30, 2016 03:38 PM (AGJqR)

441 I didn't buy L'Elle's Trumpsplanation, but that was an actual response to the subject matter.

Just attacking people who find fault with your Orange Julius Caesar is not really a response.

It's Trumpian bullshit.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:38 PM (dciA+)

442 Trump is gonna get beaten so bad in the general, he'll have to wear a big "loser" tattoo on his forehead for the rest of his life

It's unlikely he'll make it to the general election unless he runs 3rd party.

The caterwauling is going to be awesome when he loses on the 2nd vote at the convention.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 30, 2016 03:38 PM (kvZfk)

443 I love Cruz but he isnt going to win NY or CA

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 03:39 PM (zOTsN)

444 Feel free to leave Trumpkins- there are better sites with more "meaningful dialogue" for you. If you merely like intellectually dishonest and completely childish discourse, then I recommend Breitbart. If you like fake reporting, then Jim Hoff's Gatewaypundit. If you just don't like black people or jews, check out Stromfront.

Posted by: bob at March 30, 2016 03:35 PM (OHyGW)

Dude - that is just wrong.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Rent Your Hill To Die On from the Outrage Outlet! at March 30, 2016 03:39 PM (hLRSq)

445 The input filter for the comments *should* be able to limit input to some finite number of characters. I have seen such a thing on other blogs even if the limit was 3k characters.

The "Copy" or "Paste" function should have a limit

Posted by: rickb223 at March 30, 2016 03:39 PM (bVtr0)

446
Ah, you cheated! You actually watched, and heard what he said! That's not fair- you're supposed to be TOLD what he said by various self-appointed experts...

Posted by: Support the bogger-eater, Ted Cruz! at March 30, 2016 03:13 PM (IQI2h)

Here is what he actually said - up to the point that Anderson Cooper helpfully reminded him his answers were wrong:

"In your opinion, what are the top three functions of the United States government?" asked Robert Kitelinger, an Army veteran.

"Well, the greatest function of all by far is security for our nation. I would also say health care, I would also say education," Trump said. "I mean there are many, many things, but I would say the top three are security, security, security. We have to have security for our country so that we can continue to exist as a country."

"So, top three, you're saying, security -" host Anderson Cooper said.

"Security. I would say, I say all top three are security. But, health care, education would be probably three that would be top, and then you can go on from there," Trump said.

"So in terms of federal government role, you're saying security, but you also say health care and education should be provided by the federal government," Cooper said.

"Well those are two of the things, yeah, sure," Trump said. "There are, I mean there are obviously many things: housing, providing great neighborhoods and safe neighborhoods."

Posted by: stuiec at March 30, 2016 03:39 PM (eetvJ)

447 I like this game of "ok, now we conservatives are on the other side of every issue Trump comes out and supports."

I just hope that when we all rise up and break the Sneerches' Star Belly Machine that I'm then left with a star on my belly.

Posted by: Rory at March 30, 2016 03:39 PM (WDg5t)

448
Trumpocide

Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 03:39 PM (puzNN)

449 438 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 03:38 PM (39g3+)

Mom's well "calm" she doesn't make lunch anymore...

come to think on it I made my own lunch starting at about age 9...

were it to bring her back to life I'd endure it I guess.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:39 PM (g8Hfr)

450 The Trump supporters keep comparing these positions to those of Rubio, Bush and Kasich. None of whom are still in the running, Kasich's delusions aside.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!

Comparing them to candidates favored by the national party. What an utter disgrace. They'll be reading transcripts next.

Kasich's delusions aside.

Either he and I were delusional, but I remember Romney campaigning for him.

And he's still getting funding. So either the party is doing it, or he's getting it from Soros and they don't give a shit about that.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 30, 2016 03:39 PM (326rv)

451 If you prefer a guy who...

1. thinks it's the job of the federal government to provide healthcare and education,

2. Is against entitlement reform,

3. looks back to Teddy Roosevelt as how Presidents should govern

4. Can only name defense, fraud, and waste as the types of spending he would cut

5. Has a record of, at best, being very mixed in his support of conservatism

(And I'm sure I'm missing ten other things)

...over Ted Cruz on the grounds Trump is a better conservative, I don't know what to tell you.

Posted by: AD at March 30, 2016 03:39 PM (Gytl7)

452 Heh ...

When your defense for your preferred candidate is that he is just less polished in serving up the same shit sandwich that previous candidates have served up, then you've lost.

The point of supporting Trump in the first place was to give a giant middle finger to the GOPe. But now he is just not as good at lying to us as those guys we are supposed to hate.

But by god, we can't support Cruz, he eats boogers and sounds like a preacher.

I'm sitting here at the acceptance phase watching all the mental contortions with amusement.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 30, 2016 03:39 PM (R9q6t)

453 Abortion. Important issue. One of the best. I take it very seriously. Women -- Only I can cherish!

Posted by: TrumpBot 3000 at March 30, 2016 03:39 PM (dciA+)

454 Oh, and before the Trump People scold me for the anti-Trumpian heresy of reporting the news

--

eh, maybe your fellow travelers should lighten up on the casual defamation if they wish to be treated with respect.

--

Posted by: Welcher Cleaveland at March 30, 2016 03:40 PM (6LGZD)

455 I love Cruz but he isnt going to win NY or CA

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Are we talking primary or general? If primary, aren't they both proportional states? Doesn't really matter if he wins them or not, does it?

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 03:40 PM (gmeXX)

456 What saves Trump is his inability to form cogent sentences. You don't know what he means so his followers can give him the benefit of the doubt!

Also, now I understand why he is popular among Dems! He IS a Dem.

Watching him last night, I could see the attraction... he sounds a lot like Joe Pesci...

Posted by: Shefali at March 30, 2016 03:40 PM (tdnfQ)

457 "I don't want to yell at Trump supporters. The way he speaks tells me that he is equally disorganized in his thinking."

You make a fair point. Trump talks in a weird stream of consciousness. And I don't think you're yelling at me. Quite the contrary.

Trump flubbed his answer by not being clear. Not a good trait in a President. And he's had a very bad last two weeks that could lose him Wisconsin and kill his momentum to 1,237.

My point was that if you look at everything Trump said to Cooper and not an excerpt it doesn't fit the lede up top. There's a lot to criticize Trump about without needing to be misleading.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 30, 2016 03:27 PM

Yep. Off to try and do some work. Have a good one all.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 30, 2016 03:40 PM (btH0m)

458 as Trump sounds reasonable

Does he need to wait until the General? I could do with some coherence from him now so I don't just start setting fires.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 30, 2016 03:40 PM (rwI+c)

459 https://youtu.be/Z_s-Qk07KxA Aaron Tippin, You've Got To Stand For Something

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 30, 2016 03:40 PM (0O7c5)

460 Does he know this? Does he realize how badly he will get beaten? Does he know what this will mean to his image, afterward?

If Trump is the Republican nominee, what happens in the general is win-win for him. If he beats Hillary, he runs the White House. If he loses to Hillary, he owns the White House.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 30, 2016 03:40 PM (2lndx)

461 Trumpsplanations -- no Trumpsplaining needed. My words are clear. I have a good brain. Wharton!

Posted by: TrumpBot 3000 at March 30, 2016 03:40 PM (dciA+)

462 Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 03:28 PM (puzNN)

Yup, when they pulled the David Duke bullshit I assumed it was a one off thing born of desperation, but then they went full War On Women with the Michelke Fields bullshit and now they're shaming Trumps sons for being hunters, not to mention their loud applause of NROs call for poor white areas to just go ahead and die off, really been pretty amazing to watch.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at March 30, 2016 03:40 PM (ATE5J)

463 442 Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 30, 2016 03:38 PM (kvZfk)

Only 1/2 as awesome as that nice Tuesday in November when turnout makes Juan Queeg look like Reagan by comparison.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:41 PM (g8Hfr)

464 So at least Trump has stopped calling the people he hires--

"Killers".

So there's that.

Posted by: Unfettered Power at March 30, 2016 03:41 PM (mcm0N)

465 433
So pox on it all.
Posted by: Witchdoktor at March 30, 2016 03:37 PM (eytER)

Exactly. I will never for for the Dems, since I hate all the Liberal cultural garbage. But this primary season has made me see what the Libs I've known have been referring to when they talk about the elitism of the Right. I'm particularly appalled by NR; this isn't the magazine I used to read when Steyn, Derbyshire, & Goldberg were major players. (I know Goldberg is still around, and I still like him. But he seems to phone it in a lot from afar.)

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at March 30, 2016 03:41 PM (Y5I9o)

466 and i should give a shit, why? it's too damn late. bernie for me. i love destruction. at least i get free shit til it's all gone. and, banjo music and shit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 30, 2016 03:41 PM (ucDmr)

467 Who here wishes they had mom to make them lunch every day in a bag or lunch pail still? Even if its something that disappoints you... lunch. Without work.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 03:38 PM (39g3+)

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 03:41 PM (uURQL)

468
When your defense for your preferred candidate is that he is just less polished in serving up the same shit sandwich that previous candidates have served up, then you've lost.

Perhaps so if one interprets it as a "defense."

Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 03:41 PM (puzNN)

469 My favorite Trump joke:

President Trump: "Suck my needle dick!"

Military Leaders: "Sir, YESSIR!"

President Trump: "Cocksuckers."

Posted by: Arson Wells at March 30, 2016 03:41 PM (/E+t2)

470 There are leftists states that no one but a leftist can win, Ny, Mass California and I'm sure she few more.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 03:41 PM (fizMZ)

471 Yeah I have almost done it before. Its a trick that sometimes happens when you cut text, it swipes upward and copies everything above your cursor. Thankfully, so far, I've caught it.

I did it once on a smaller screen phone where I wasn't able to see a lot above.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 30, 2016 03:41 PM (bVtr0)

472 how did he leave out breast implants?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 30, 2016 03:41 PM (R8ea6)

473 I'm sitting here at the acceptance phase watching all the mental contortions with amusement.

--------------

Don't worry. Trump won't win the nomination. Cruz might. But that is all for fun day this summer in Cleveland.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 03:42 PM (gmeXX)

474 @199 & 201: How silly of me. I thought a blog was where people actually said what's on their mind. I said nothing that should have offended Ace or anyone else here. How sad it must be for you both to feel you have to jump in and defend Ace because you think he can't defend himself. He'll probably allow you to stay here without kissing his ass.

Posted by: monique at March 30, 2016 03:42 PM (+0t2Z)

475 The Trump supporters keep comparing these positions to those of Rubio, Bush and Kasich. None of whom are still in the running, Kasich's delusions aside.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!

Comparing them to candidates favored by the national party. What an utter disgrace. They'll be reading transcripts next.

Kasich's delusions aside.

Either he and I were delusional, but I remember Romney campaigning for him.

And he's still getting funding. So either the party is doing it, or he's getting it from Soros and they don't give a shit about that.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 30, 2016 03:39 PM (326rv)

Im not a Trump supporter. Kasich is still running. Rubio is running a zombie campaign to try and get the nom at the convention. And GOPe has the same platform we are all bitching about, myself included. This doesnt make Trump a democrat so much as a believer in the Uniparty

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 03:42 PM (zOTsN)

476 422 leave
Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2016 03:35 PM (/tuJf)

leave what?

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 30, 2016 03:42 PM (wZfYc)

477 "Orange Julius Caesar"

Awesome.

ThunderB, Cruz will do well in California.

Its not winner take all, and its a closed primary.

My wife and I re-registered as GOP just for this election - our votes never get to matter usually.

Your average LIV isn't registered GOP and won't do it.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 03:42 PM (UBBWX)

478 your Orange Julius Caesar

*******

LOL!

Posted by: Unfettered Power at March 30, 2016 03:43 PM (mcm0N)

479 *hums to the tune of Imperial March*

Trump, trump-a trump, trump-a trump, trump-a trump,

Ooh! The Spam skit.

Wife: But I don't like Trump.

Vikings: Trump, wonderful Trump!

Husband: Don't mind, dear, I'll have your Trump. I love Trump.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 30, 2016 03:43 PM (1xUj/)

480 He didn't say it at the Townhall. He's said it in numerous other interviews. That he says something different at the Townhall is more troubling.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 30, 2016 03:38 PM

I was only resonding to what L elle was saying pertaining to this thread. Again, Not a Trumper but I feel it was dishonest, there's plenty of reasons to dislike him without twisting it to fit the narrative.

Posted by: Minnfidel at March 30, 2016 03:43 PM (btH0m)

481
After the 2016 debacle, will the Republican base admit they like Shit Sandwiches? Or will they ignore their penchant for eating Shit Sandwiches and focus on consuming even more Shit Sandwiches in 2018, 2020?

Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 03:43 PM (puzNN)

482 "Let's rip him because he's not Thomas Paine on the stump."

There's such a thing as a philosophically consistent and coherent worldview which is nevertheless expressed in a bumbling, inarticulate manner.

There's also such a thing as a philosophically inconsistent, incoherent worldview which is expressed in a bumbling, inarticulate manner.

Discuss.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 30, 2016 03:43 PM (noWW6)

483 Posted by: Welcher Cleaveland at March 30, 2016 03:34 PM (6LGZD

I'm glad you are here to set us straight and add maturity to this site. Welcome.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 30, 2016 03:43 PM (MSiSP)

484
You have got to be kidding. Trump benefited enormously for the better part of a year from free, 7x24 press coverage. He was everywhere and rarely was the coverage less than fawning.

No doubt although I wouldn't describe his early coverage as fawning.Your comment was Cruz must be doing something right because he is currently in second place and survived being in such a large field.I could make the same case for Trump,and he is currently in 1st

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 30, 2016 03:43 PM (lKyWE)

485 ...a lot of trump people have to derail every discussion about policy...

Trump has no policy. :-)
Most people advocating him see him as a wrecking ball aimed at DC.

The only problem with the other candidates:
Kasich is amazing in a bad way.
Cruz would have to work with McConnell and probably Ryan if we are unlucky.
They would Nixon Cruz.
His only hope would be if he could get Cheney or Palin to be his VP.

Posted by: scorecard at March 30, 2016 03:43 PM (Bbcs8)

486 >>>474 @199 & 201: How silly of me. I thought a blog was where people actually said what's on their mind. I said nothing that should have offended Ace or anyone else here. How sad it must be for you both to feel you have to jump in and defend Ace because you think he can't defend himself. He'll probably allow you to stay here without kissing his ass.

maybe people are tired of the standard Trumpian tactic of trying to shut down any discussion of Trump.

some of you people act like SJWs, then claim you're the ones who are really "fighting" them.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:43 PM (dciA+)

487 476 Posted by: OregonMuse at March 30, 2016 03:42 PM (wZfYc)

the cannoli....take the....

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:44 PM (g8Hfr)

488 no, but I'm pre-butting the Trumptroopers who like casually defaming people by claiming "You're just writing about this because you've been PAID TO."

a lot of trump people have to derail every discussion about policy into personal attacks. I wonder where they get that from.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:34 PM (dciA+)

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As good a writer as you are, Ace, the RNC might just have some extra gold in their purse. And since you don't like Trump anyway.........

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Soona at March 30, 2016 03:44 PM (Fmupd)

489 >>leave what?

I was correcting auto-correct which changed my incorrectly spelled leav to lead.

Aren't you glad you asked?

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2016 03:44 PM (/tuJf)

490 433 I've finally gotten too old to give a shit anymore
about this. The GOP had a fantastic chance to shine, and they fucked it
up. And now we have Jim Geraghty playing the "I told you so" game, as
if they were backing a reasonable candidate to conservatives and the
GOPe are the blameles victims in this passion play, so I just know the
acrimony isn't going to be fixed. Ever.

So pox on it all.

Posted by: Witchdoktor at March 30, 2016 03:37 PM (eytER)

Exactly! This is a situation that was completely the responsibility of the Establishment, forcing it's desires upon the populace for decades, but now they furiously wash their hands and point at everyone else and cry that it's actually the fault of someone, anyone other than them.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 30, 2016 03:44 PM (flJ92)

491 I love Cruz but he isnt going to win NY or CA

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Are we talking primary or general? If primary, aren't they both proportional states? Doesn't really matter if he wins them or not, does it?
Posted by: SH

primary. Cruz wont win them and he needs them. Trump will

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 03:44 PM (zOTsN)

492 I urge anyone who believes Trump thinks even slightly conservatively about federal government involvement in healthcare and education to actually watch the video.

Focus on the part before Anderson Cooper teaches him what conservatives believe about these matters.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 30, 2016 03:44 PM (ZKlDy)

493
Who here wishes they had mom to make them lunch every day in a bag or lunch pail still? Even if its something that disappoints you... lunch. Without work.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
..............

I want mine in a Melania lunch pail, you know, with that picture on it.

Posted by: wth at March 30, 2016 03:44 PM (HgMAr)

494 *shifty eyes*

Well, unless mom still IS making you lunch, then good for you! I still go over to mom's on Sundays to have lunch with her and spend the day. She rests in the afternoon and I lie on the couch and read a book or two. Its a nice day.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 03:44 PM (39g3+)

495 even ann coulter has expressed her exasperation that Trump can't manage to raise his game to even "slightly above low-brow."

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:45 PM (dciA+)

496 You can't handle the truth. Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with hands. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Bernie Sanders? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Fields, and you curse Trump. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Field's bruises, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you grab an arm, and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.

- Corey Lewandowski

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 30, 2016 03:45 PM (Nwg0u)

497 Serious question: if the primary gets ugly enough, and the convention is brokered, how many will be okay with a Walker ticket?

I think I'd be okay.

I'd prefer Cruz, but if the actual delegate leaders have peed on each other too much...

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 03:45 PM (UBBWX)

498 If Trump is the Republican nominee, what happens in the general is win-win for him. If he beats Hillary, he runs the White House. If he loses to Hillary, he owns the White House.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 30, 2016 03:40 PM (2lndx)

Precisely. He's already told us a hundred times that he is a master at buying whatever politicians are in power to enrich himself. So what does he care if he loses? (Other than not being on the receiving end of all the influence money that would be used to buy HIM.)

Posted by: stuiec at March 30, 2016 03:45 PM (eetvJ)

499
Trumpriffic post, Ace!

Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 03:45 PM (puzNN)

500 One thing I've always wondered about is how Mel Brooks's "President Skroob" character would have sounded like in a primary. I'm not wondering so much these days.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 30, 2016 03:45 PM (noWW6)

501 I think grown up lunch pails could be cool. I want one with a picture of a Lambourghini Countach on it. Or El Capitan at Yellowstone.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 03:46 PM (39g3+)

502 >>>Exactly! This is a situation that was completely the responsibility of the Establishment,

this can all be true (as it is -- why of 17 candidates were only two willing to speak heresies about the border wall?), but that does not make Trump acceptable or even borderline conservative.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:46 PM (dciA+)

503 What an offensive pander. I am very anti-abortion but for goodness sake I don't want people punished. Now, I do think you are committing murder--taking an innocent human life. But I'm not a nonsensical person, it is a different circumstance than when someone shoots someone in the face for example. And it must be handled differently. While I think it should be illegal, I also think it's about getting people to see the truth--that it is a human life, than about "punishment" for a crime.

Posted by: PBJ1515 at March 30, 2016 03:46 PM (VfT7O)

504 Are we talking primary or general? If primary, aren't they both proportional states? Doesn't really matter if he wins them or not, does it?
Posted by: SH

primary. Cruz wont win them and he needs them. Trump will

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Won't Cruz win some delegates from both those states? Cruz doesn't need to win them, his goal is to prevent Trump from getting a majority and then take it to the floor.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 03:46 PM (gmeXX)

505 I also forget, are suppose to be complaining about how Trump only wins because Democrats come over to support him in the primary or are we suppose to be focusing on how Trump can't possibly pull in any Democratic voters in the fall.

Being a Conservative is hard this year.

Posted by: Rory at March 30, 2016 03:46 PM (WDg5t)

506 Minnfidel, did you actually watch the video? The headline is not inaccurate.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 30, 2016 03:46 PM (ZKlDy)

507 Posted by: monique at March 30, 2016 03:42 PM (+0t2Z)

That's four posts in a row on the same butt hurt . You've got anything different to add?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 30, 2016 03:46 PM (MSiSP)

508 Ted Cruz could come out strong against Health Care and Education.

In his defense, Cruz is very good at sounding like he is in favor of root things (like growing corn) while being against federal involvement (such as being against subsidies).

So I'm pretty sure that (a) when Anderson Cooper asks Cruz what the top three functions of the federal government are, education and health care will not be on the list; and (b) when asked what the federal involvement should be, he'll be able to (correctly) sound like he's in favor of education and health care and that therefore the federal government should not get in the way of educators and health care providers.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 30, 2016 03:46 PM (2lndx)

509 Yeah, when Ann Coulter is having qualms.

I suspect they can feel the hull breaking up as it enters ever deeper water.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 03:46 PM (UBBWX)

510 The "Copy" or "Paste" function should have a limit

Posted by: rickb223 at March 30, 2016 03:39 PM (bVtr0)

Is this a function of the blog or a function of individual computing devices ?

Posted by: dDan at March 30, 2016 03:47 PM (hwYmz)

511 Trump keeps shooting himself in the foot nothing is certain.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 03:47 PM (fizMZ)

512 >>>Serious question: if the primary gets ugly enough, and the convention is brokered, how many will be okay with a Walker ticket?

I think I'd be okay.

...

i think by the conventions, things will have been so ugly and so draaaama-filled for so long a lot of us will be willing to accept virtually anyone.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:47 PM (dciA+)

513 Hitler!

Did I win the Godwin's law race or did someone beat me to it?

Posted by: Rory at March 30, 2016 03:47 PM (WDg5t)

514 Oh, and before the Trump People scold me for the anti-Trumpian heresy of reporting the news, you should know this is already making headlines in other countries.

- - - -

You mean a French news source doesn't like Trump?

Better change my mind.

Posted by: Community Organizer at March 30, 2016 03:47 PM (9VLhN)

515 Serious question: if the primary gets ugly enough, and the convention is brokered, how many will be okay with a Walker ticket?

I'd be very happy with it, but they don't like him either. The GOPe sees him as terribly divisive and extreme.

...come to think of it, the most grown up lunch pail is that dad one made of aluminum with the round top holding the thermos full of coffee.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 03:47 PM (39g3+)

516 One thing I've always wondered about is how Mel
Brooks's "President Skroob" character would have sounded like in a
primary. I'm not wondering so much these days.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 30, 2016 03:45 PM

I'm waiting for him to start Harrumph!-ing to reporters.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 30, 2016 03:47 PM (bzd8I)

517
After the 2016 debacle, will the Republican base admit they like Shit Sandwiches? Or will they ignore their penchant for eating Shit Sandwiches and focus on consuming even more Shit Sandwiches in 2018, 2020?
Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 03:43 PM (puzNN)
...........................

So that's what's going to be in Melania's school lunches?

Posted by: wth at March 30, 2016 03:47 PM (HgMAr)

518 Serious question: if the primary gets ugly enough, and the convention is brokered, how many will be okay with a Walker ticket?

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I'd be fine with it, but I don't think it will happen. I can see other potential people (beyond Trump or Cruz), but Walker doesn't strike me as one of them.

But to answer your question, I could get behind a Scott Walker nomination.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 03:48 PM (gmeXX)

519 Im not a Trump supporter. Kasich is still running. Rubio is running a zombie campaign to try and get the nom at the convention. And GOPe has the same platform we are all bitching about, myself included. This doesnt make Trump a democrat so much as a believer in the Uniparty
Posted by: ThunderB

This.

What if?

What if Trump echoed verbatim the GOP record on these issues?

Would be be vilified any less? Would our Betters in the party despise him any less?

Dept of Ed is fully funded and not under any threat

PP (Prenatal parts) fully funded

Obamacare is not only still alive, but they blunted tax bites that would have made it even MORE of a shit sandwich; and which actually helps the dems from a tax THEY created.

Love of amnesty (in two languages)

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 30, 2016 03:48 PM (326rv)

520 "Focus on the part before Anderson Cooper teaches him what conservatives believe about these matters."

Internal dialogue from Anderson Upthepooper:

"I can't believe I've thrown this guy six life jackets and four rescue lines and he's still floundering and bellowing without grabbing on to any of them."

Posted by: torquewrench at March 30, 2016 03:48 PM (noWW6)

521 Are we talking primary or general? If primary,
aren't they both proportional states? Doesn't really matter if he wins
them or not, does it?

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 03:40 PM (gmeXX)

I think at least Cali is winner take all but I also think Cruz stands a good chance in Cali and perhaps both Cali and NY.

I think populations of both will be watching the states before them.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 03:48 PM (3JA/M)

522 So pox on it all.

-
Fuck it. Let's bowl.

- Walter Sobchak

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 30, 2016 03:48 PM (Nwg0u)

523 even ann coulter has expressed her exasperation that Trump can't manage to raise his game to even "slightly above low-brow."

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:45 PM (dciA+)
________________________________

When you've lost Ann.... Oh I think this deck chair should be over there, BRB..

Posted by: IP at March 30, 2016 03:49 PM (aQQbl)

524 one can only eat so much popcorn.....ffs people

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 30, 2016 03:49 PM (0O7c5)

525 Cruz will never win NY or CA. Never

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 03:49 PM (zOTsN)

526 >>>
You mean a French news source doesn't like Trump?

Better change my mind.
..

no that's not my point. My point is, Shut Up with the kneejerk "Oh this isn't a story, why are you hurting my butt by publishing things that Trump said" reactions by the All Criticism of Trump Is Forbidden Because #SafeSpace crowd.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:49 PM (dciA+)

527
Are we talking primary or general? If primary, aren't they both proportional states?

Ca is winner take all.172 delegates

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 30, 2016 03:49 PM (lKyWE)

528 >>Won't Cruz win some delegates from both those states? Cruz doesn't need to win them, his goal is to prevent Trump from getting a majority and then take it to the floor.

Most recent poll of CA I have seen was done by the LA Times. Trump is up by 1 over Cruz and again, Cruz is moving up.

Some people don't seem to think that all the crazy Trump has been peddling would ever catch up with him. Recent polling would seem to indicate differently.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2016 03:49 PM (/tuJf)

529 Serious question: if the primary gets ugly enough, and the convention is brokered, how many will be okay with a Walker ticket?

I think I'd be okay.

--

Walker was either my first or second choice (tied with Perry). I'd be completely fine with dusting off the old Throne-O-Skulls meme

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 30, 2016 03:50 PM (KUaJL)

530 obviously if something is making international headlines, *there's a valid reason for my publishing it apart from my being paid off by Salem Media.*

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:50 PM (dciA+)

531 Serious question: if the primary gets ugly enough, and the convention is brokered, how many will be okay with a Walker ticket?

Not me.

His comments last week, combined with his delay in endorsing Cruz (his words) tells me that he's in on this shit.

And he loves amnesty too.

I he gets the nod, it's because the party gives it to him. And I doubt that it will come without a price.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 30, 2016 03:50 PM (326rv)

532 I am in the grip of Trumptation.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 30, 2016 03:50 PM (FtrY1)

533
Trump Sandwich 2016

Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 03:50 PM (puzNN)

534 Cruz will never win NY or CA. Never

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I thought they were proportional or at least some hybrid. Not a WTA. But again, so what. If he loses both those states, so what?

Trump is likely not going to get a majority.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 03:50 PM (gmeXX)

535 Fox is reporting the White house is saying your phone is safe from the feds, so you may want to watch what you put on your phone because the feds are after it.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 03:50 PM (fizMZ)

536 If you think the Republican overlords are going to steal the nomination from the guy with the most votes to give it to Cruz, you're gonna have a hard time.

Posted by: Rory at March 30, 2016 03:50 PM (WDg5t)

537 ...Focus on the part before Anderson Cooper teaches him what conservatives believe about these matters...

Is that like Kasich and Beck being prophets?

I would suggest you say something like "concentrate on what Trump says and ignore the fairy".

Not that there is anything wrong with listening to fairies tell their tales.

Posted by: scorecard at March 30, 2016 03:50 PM (CzhL0)

538 Why is Trump pandering to social conservatives on MSNBC?

Posted by: Spelling Nazi at March 30, 2016 03:51 PM (AO2XE)

539 Is this a function of the blog or a function of individual computing devices ?

Thinking blog. I've done it on android, came close on iphone, and think you could do it with a pc

Posted by: rickb223 at March 30, 2016 03:51 PM (bVtr0)

540 Sheesh.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at March 30, 2016 03:51 PM (0mRoj)

541 The Outrage Outlet is pleased to announce tryouts for our new musical

"My Fair Trumpkin"

Roles Available:

Trumpkin
Professor Cruz
Doctor Sanders
Lady Cankles
Kasich the Postman

And a Chorus of Milling middling members of the MSM

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Rent Your Hill To Die On from the Outrage Outlet! at March 30, 2016 03:51 PM (hLRSq)

542 492 I urge anyone who believes Trump thinks even slightly conservatively about federal government involvement in healthcare and education to actually watch the video.

----
When you're certain of your own awesomeness, why not take on everything and fix it all. Conservatism requires a modicum of humility about what one can do.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 30, 2016 03:51 PM (R8ea6)

543 I can't fault anyone, including Ace, for being strongly partisan. I never attack another commentor because I view this as a community, that I like, and I don't want to be seen as the asshole neighbor who just stirs shit. To each their own, but even on a blog actions have consequences. Get off my lawn.

Posted by: kraken at March 30, 2016 03:51 PM (FqXvH)

544 one can only eat so much popcorn..

I'm actually getting kind of sick of popcorn this election. It was entertaining but by this point its just grating and I wish it would all just go away.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 03:52 PM (39g3+)

545 Posted by: rickb223 at March 30, 2016 03:51 PM (bVtr0)

Appreciate the info.

Posted by: dDan at March 30, 2016 03:52 PM (hwYmz)

546 Trust me.

Posted by: Joe Isuzu at March 30, 2016 03:52 PM (gs8be)

547 walker, rubio, perry, cruz, trump. what the fuck, we just throwing monkey shit at the wall to see what sticks? damn, it doesn't matter who the repukes nominate. it's hildebeast's election to lose right now. nobody has stepped up. so forget it.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 30, 2016 03:52 PM (ucDmr)

548 Serious question: if the primary gets ugly enough, and the convention is brokered, how many will be okay with a Walker ticket?

Serious answer, I want to see Obama inaugurated for a third term, because I want to see what happens next after that.

Posted by: Welcher Cleaveland at March 30, 2016 03:52 PM (6LGZD)

549 When you've lost Ann.... Oh I think this deck chair should be over there, BRB..
Posted by: IP at March 30, 2016 03:49 PM (aQQbl)

Trump hasn't lost Ann.

She's complaining ... but that's what women do, especially when other women are getting blasted.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 03:52 PM (uURQL)

550 Did I win the Godwin's law race or did someone beat me to it?

Posted by: Rory at March 30, 2016 03:47 PM (WDg5t)

Trump supporters have already been told to go to Stormfront by "Bob."

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Rent Your Hill To Die On from the Outrage Outlet! at March 30, 2016 03:52 PM (hLRSq)

551 ...Cruz will never win NY or CA...

But Kasich might if he offers enough FS.

Posted by: scorecard at March 30, 2016 03:52 PM (CzhL0)

552

I guess I missed the part where the Republican party got rid of the Dept of Ed, HUD and Obamacare

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 03:52 PM (zOTsN)

553 Thanks Ace. I was just summarizing what I remember his answer to be from last night's townhall. Others read it and saw his answer differently including you. That's fine. Doesn't bother me at all. Like I said, it wasn't the best answer.

Posted by: L, Elle at March 30, 2016 03:52 PM (2x3L+)

554 Just attacking people who find fault with your Orange Julius Caesar is not really a response.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:38 PM (dciA+)

Perhaps I've been living in a cave for too long, but I hadn't heard that one before. Made me laugh.

Posted by: HTL at March 30, 2016 03:52 PM (NAWno)

555 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 03:52 PM (39g3+)

It's the fake butter and salt that does it.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 30, 2016 03:53 PM (KUaJL)

556 no that's not my point. My point is, Shut Up with the kneejerk "Oh this isn't a story, why are you hurting my butt by publishing things that Trump said" reactions by the All Criticism of Trump Is Forbidden Because #SafeSpace crowd.
Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:49 PM (dciA+)

- - -

Yeah, there's a lot of butthurt from Trumpers on this blog. I totally get that.

I just don't see the value in sourcing a French source coming out against Trump. I guarantee you they hate Cruz just as much.

Who cares what they think?

France is a mess. Tremendous disaster.

Sad.

Posted by: Community Organizer at March 30, 2016 03:53 PM (9VLhN)

557 503
What an offensive pander. I am very anti-abortion but for goodness sake

Posted by: PBJ1515 at March 30, 2016 03:46 PM (VfT7O)

Do you find it equally offensive when a more traditional GOP candidate beats the abortion drum to get you to donate and volunteer? Do you imagine they have any intention to do anything about it? We can't even get a law passed requiring Planned Parenthood clinics to meet the minimum requirements of out patient surgery centers? I'll bet you're completely okay with the GOP pandering on the issue. Here's the deal about Trump, he sucks balls, until you compare him to the GOP, and then after that who gives a shit.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 30, 2016 03:53 PM (flJ92)

558 Trump keeps shooting himself in the foot nothing is certain.
Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 03:47 PM (fizz)

Trump is doing a drive by on his own foot. Does anybody here honestly think these last two weeks of the Trump Stupid Show is helping him? At some point all the straw Trump is dumping will finally break the camel's back.

If Ann Coulter and Mike Savage start second guessing you, you know you have problems.

This much is clear, Trump and his campaign are headed in the wrong direction.

Posted by: Arson Wells at March 30, 2016 03:53 PM (/E+t2)

559 But to answer your question, I could get behind a Scott Walker nomination.

Yeah, I said at the beginning of the primaries that Walker is who the establishment should have compromised on from the start. He would be acceptable to both sides; but they wanted to screw the base, and they'll get Jack.

In the establishment's defense, I said that partly because Walker was my number one choice, and I changed my mind pretty quickly when I heard Walker speak.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 30, 2016 03:53 PM (2lndx)

560 If you think the Republican overlords are going to steal the nomination from the guy with the most votes to give it to Cruz, you're gonna have a hard time.
Posted by: Rory

I do think that the fix is in.

I also think that the party has no intention of either of them getting it.

In for a penny, in for a pound I suspect.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 30, 2016 03:53 PM (326rv)

561
Walker?

You mean Walker The Quitter?
He quit last September.

He's even more boring than Cruz.

Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 03:53 PM (puzNN)

562 Do we seriously have 9 more months of this? Put them in a cage match on PPV and we can start paying off the national debt.

I'd love to see either Cruz or Trump lift Kasich over their head and swing him around and toss him into the audience.

Posted by: Cheri at March 30, 2016 03:53 PM (oiNtH)

563 >>> Thanks Ace. I was just summarizing what I remember his answer to be from last night's townhall. Others read it and saw his answer differently including you. That's fine. Doesn't bother me at all. Like I said, it wasn't the best answer.

i disagree but your response is actually a response, not an attempt to shut up everyone else by yelling and tossing out casual defamations.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:53 PM (dciA+)

564 Anna wasn't just complaining about the treatment of other women.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 03:54 PM (fizMZ)

565 I think grown up lunch pails could be cool.

I missed the kool thread, but I did get a "Kill Bill" lunchbox as a grownup.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 30, 2016 03:54 PM (1xUj/)

566 "Why is Trump pandering to social conservatives on MSNBC?"

It's like the old joke about the drunk who dropped his car keys outside of the bar in the parking lot, but is back inside, busily searching for the keys on the floor of the men's room, because "the light is better here".

Posted by: torquewrench at March 30, 2016 03:54 PM (noWW6)

567
i think by the conventions, things will have been so ugly and so draaaama-filled for so long a lot of us will be willing to accept virtually anyone.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:47 PM (dciA+)

------------------

You're right for the most part. But if it's Heb! or Katshit, I'm walking away.

Posted by: Soona at March 30, 2016 03:54 PM (Fmupd)

568 the only reason to oppose the liberal ludicrious evil clown Trump is due to being bought off by somebody!

I think you're mad that editorial cartoonists are having such an easy time drawing hair jokes.

Posted by: DaveA at March 30, 2016 03:54 PM (DL2i+)

569 511 Trump keeps shooting himself in the foot nothing is certain.
Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 03:47 PM (fizMZ)

---

when he said he could shoot someone and not lose support, i did not envision that it'd be Trump he shot.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 30, 2016 03:54 PM (R8ea6)

570 544 one can only eat so much popcorn..

I'm actually getting kind of sick of popcorn this election. It was entertaining but by this point its just grating and I wish it would all just go away.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 03:52 PM (39g3+)

I'll save my snacks for when I watch the world burn.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at March 30, 2016 03:54 PM (0mRoj)

571 >>>Serious question: if the primary gets ugly enough, and the convention is brokered, how many will be okay with a Walker ticket?

I think I'd be okay.

...

i think by the conventions, things will have been so ugly and so
draaaama-filled for so long a lot of us will be willing to accept
virtually anyone.
Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:47 PM (dciA+)<<<

... and that's how Jim Gilmore became President.

Posted by: history teacher in the year 2446 at March 30, 2016 03:55 PM (H9MG5)

572 It sounds like CA if WTA but not WTA by just counting statewide votes. Some sort of hybrid of who wins the most Congressional districts. Is that right?

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 03:55 PM (gmeXX)

573 "Walker? You mean Walker The Quitter? He quit last September. He's even more boring than Cruz."

And even more tin-eared than Ted on the stump, which is really something.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 30, 2016 03:55 PM (noWW6)

574 >>>I just don't see the value in sourcing a French source coming out against Trump. I guarantee you they hate Cruz just as much.

Who cares what they think?

...

when the response to every bit of Trump news (and most Trump news is bad news -- he's not #Winning like he used to) is to try to shout down the speaker, one gets defensive.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:55 PM (dciA+)

575 how many will be okay with a Walker ticket?

I could support him. But I don't think the nominee will be from outside the top two vote getters unless the nomination goes five or six ballots without a majority.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 30, 2016 03:55 PM (rwI+c)

576 My first choice was Walker.
I drifted about.
Decided to go for Cruz.
I would vote for Trump in the general.

Otherwise I am getting as much entertainment out of this as I can.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Rent Your Hill To Die On from the Outrage Outlet! at March 30, 2016 03:55 PM (hLRSq)

577
David Brooks: At Least Trump Crushed 'Dying Husk' of Reaganism in GOP

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 30, 2016 03:55 PM (FkBIv)

578 Just attacking people who find fault with your Orange Julius Caesar is not really a response.
Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:38 PM (dciA+)

Veni, Vidi, JUICY!

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at March 30, 2016 03:55 PM (Y5I9o)

579 Randy ted cruz in d.c. madam's client books likes black teenage trannys!

Posted by: randy teddy at March 30, 2016 03:55 PM (tCW47)

580 Jesus Blue Hen!

Walker had been all over radio in the couple of weeks before his endorsement saying he was going to wait until after the Easter Holiday to make his endorsement specifically because he wanted maximum effect of the endorsement.

Not only that but local conservatives were surprised when Walker gave an full throated endorsement of Cruz for President and not a "I'm voting for him and so should you in Wisconsin."

Walker gave the maximum endorsement that Cruz could have asked for.

Posted by: H Badger at March 30, 2016 03:55 PM (n/0Nw)

581 i think by the conventions, things will have been so ugly and so draaaama-filled for so long a lot of us will be willing to accept virtually anyone.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:47 PM (dciA+)

I hope we pick a loser who won't embarrass us.

Posted by: jwest at March 30, 2016 03:55 PM (Zs4uk)

582
Wing! Wing! Wing!

Hewwo?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 30, 2016 03:55 PM (BK3ZS)

583 ...how many will be okay with a Walker ticket?...

Walker seems to do his magic off stage. Worked in Wisconsin. Doubt if it would work nationally. Government unions would go hyper. He is a less flamboyant Cristie.

Posted by: scorecard at March 30, 2016 03:55 PM (Bbcs8)

584 Here's the LA Times/USC poll. This is the most recent poll of CA I can find, done last week.

Likely voters

Trump 36%
Cruz 35%

Primary isn't until June. Plenty of time for Trump to say some interesting things.

http://tinyurl.com/z9a5o56

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2016 03:56 PM (/tuJf)

585 Cruz will never win NY or CA. Never
Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 03:49 PM (zOTsN)

Never say never my friend. California looks like it's starting to turn its back on Trump.

Posted by: Arson Wells at March 30, 2016 03:56 PM (/E+t2)

586
Most recent poll of CA I have seen was done by the LA Times. Trump is up by 1 over Cruz and again, Cruz is moving up.

Its the L.A. Times.I live in L.A. there is not a snowballs chance in hell Cruz wins here.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 30, 2016 03:56 PM (lKyWE)

587 I'll save my snacks for when I watch the world burn.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at March 30, 2016 03:54 PM (0mRoj)
it's burning, whatcha got?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 30, 2016 03:56 PM (0O7c5)

588 I still support Trump. Yes he is a jerk, but he doesn't back down when challenged unlike McCain, Romney ect. Yes that means he won't back down when he is wrong too, but it is better than the preemptive surrender we get from say Paul Ryan.

Trump might (likely will) screw us over on stuff, but he isn't a wimp. I can at least respect a jerk. I can't respect a effeminate weakling.

So why not Cruz?

First off
He just creeps me out. He looks creepy, his voice is creepy, he just gives off a very weird and unlikable vibe. I would not want to be friends w/ him or be next to him on a plane. HOWEVER if he is the nominee I *will* vote for him, but that very negative emotional response is visceral and is very strong. If I didn't follow politics I would not be able to look past it and vote for him in a general.

And Second
a brokered convention WILL destroy the Republican Party and A vote for Cruz is a vote for a brokered convention. The Republican party is the only party that at least sort of likes America. The Democrats hate us.

Posted by: RawDogRevolution at March 30, 2016 03:56 PM (10hEu)

589 One of the issues that liberals are most fanatical about is abortion. They worship at the feet of this sacred cow.

Posted by: Cheri at March 30, 2016 03:56 PM (oiNtH)

590 >>>You're right for the most part. But if it's Heb! or Katshit, I'm walking away.

i have a strong feeling it's Ryan, and I'd walk away from that too.

Unless he vowed border security first, build the wall, reduce immigration from countries with islamism.

which he won't.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:56 PM (dciA+)

591 Cruz will never win NY or CA. Never

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 03:49 PM (zOTsN)

We shall see.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 03:57 PM (3JA/M)

592
I hope we pick a loser who won't embarrass us.
Posted by: jwest at March 30, 2016 03:55 PM (Zs4uk)

That's the spirit!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 30, 2016 03:57 PM (BK3ZS)

593 Serious question: if the primary gets ugly enough, and the convention is brokered, how many will be okay with a Walker ticket?

I'd personally be OK with it, but alienating both the Trumpkins and supporters of Cruz would likely be a bridge too far.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 30, 2016 03:57 PM (BqAWU)

594
i disagree but your response is actually a response, not an attempt to shut up everyone else by yelling and tossing out casual defamations.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:53 PM (dciA+)

Casual Defamations is the name of my Psychadelic Furs cover band.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Rent Your Hill To Die On from the Outrage Outlet! at March 30, 2016 03:57 PM (hLRSq)

595 The abortion comment?

It's over. Done. Kaput. Stick a fork in him, the fat lady is singing.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 30, 2016 03:57 PM (NOIQH)

596 587 I'll save my snacks for when I watch the world burn.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at March 30, 2016 03:54 PM (0mRoj)
it's burning, whatcha got?
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 30, 2016 03:56 PM (0O7c5)

Cheetos cheese puffs, BBQ Pringles and honey-roasted cashews.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at March 30, 2016 03:57 PM (0mRoj)

597 Unless he vowed border security first, build the wall, reduce immigration from countries with islamism.

which he won't.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:56 PM (dciA+)

oh he will promise it......but he won't mean it.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 30, 2016 03:57 PM (0O7c5)

598 Hey, you know what would be really smart?

Ted Cruz could come out strong against Health Care and Education.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

Everyone would vote for him then.

And people say we're the stupid party...

Posted by: jwest at March 30, 2016 03:36 PM (Zs4uk)
_______

Or he could just come out in favor of... whats that word... ooooohhh yes: federalism. And constitutional government and shit, you know?

Posted by: Dixie Wetsworth, Florida at March 30, 2016 03:58 PM (0i5LY)

599 562 Do we seriously have 9 more months of this? Put them in a cage match on PPV and we can start paying off the national debt.

I'd love to see either Cruz or Trump lift Kasich over their head and swing him around and toss him into the audience.

Posted by: Cheri at March 30, 2016 03:53 PM (oiNtH)

And Rubio gets a sleeper hold? How about a pile driver?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 30, 2016 03:58 PM (jxbfJ)

600 i think by the conventions, things will have been so ugly and so draaaama-filled for so long a lot of us will be willing to accept virtually anyone.

I think that by November, no matter who the nominee is, the push here in comments and probably on the blog will be to vote for them so Hillary doesn't win. No matter who.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 03:58 PM (39g3+)

601 New poll giving Ted 10pts over the Donald in Wisconsin

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 03:58 PM (fizMZ)

602 Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:56 PM (dciA+)

Serious question Ace, would you really walk away from Ryan? Wwouldn't he be better than Hillary?

Posted by: kraken at March 30, 2016 03:58 PM (FqXvH)

603 588
Posted by: RawDogRevolution at March 30, 2016 03:56 PM (10hEu)

How does a candidate's views on policy enter into your decision ?

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at March 30, 2016 03:58 PM (Y5I9o)

604 "i think by the conventions, things will have been so ugly and so
draaaama-filled for so long a lot of us will be willing to accept
virtually anyone."

Michele Bachmann / Tardisil 2016!!!

Posted by: torquewrench at March 30, 2016 03:58 PM (noWW6)

605 Regarding NY and CA primaries.

New York is proportional, so Cruz can win delegates there. How many is anyone's guess.

California is winner take all by congressional district, so Cruz (or Trump) could win the lion's share of delegates with a slight plurality of the vote. The key is which districts you target. Campaigns with a ground game have the advantage there, and the Cruz team has been gaming out scenarios there for months.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 30, 2016 03:59 PM (R9q6t)

606 >>>I hope we pick a loser who won't embarrass us.

trump is a guaranteed loser. I know trump fans like to hide from reality and pretend the polls must be "twisted" or some bullshit, but the empirical evidence has been stacking up for a long time that trump is the weakest candidate we could possibly field -- and he's only getting weaker.

Yeah, you can do the bullshit about Michelle Fields and claim (with Trump) that he thought the picture of Heidi Cruz was "nice," but... um, people aren't stupid enough to believe what you need them to believe.

Trump is sinking like a stone with women, who are 52% of the voting population. And he's not doing great with men, either.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:59 PM (dciA+)

607 596 587 I'll save my snacks for when I watch the world burn.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at March 30, 2016 03:54 PM (0mRoj)
it's burning, whatcha got?
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 30, 2016 03:56 PM (0O7c5)

Cheetos cheese puffs, BBQ Pringles and honey-roasted cashews.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at March 30, 2016 03:57 PM (0mRoj)

I got beers - home brewed goodness.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 30, 2016 03:59 PM (jxbfJ)

608 How do you punish a woman who recently had an abortion?

Force her to sit in the front row at a Margaret Cho event?

Posted by: Fritz at March 30, 2016 03:59 PM (UzPAd)

609

Remember when Republicans fought to get rid of HUD, the Dept of Ed, and Obamacare

me neither

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 03:59 PM (zOTsN)

610 when the response to every bit of Trump news (and most Trump news is bad news -- he's not #Winning like he used to) is to try to shout down the speaker, one gets defensive.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:55 PM (dciA+)

On another note, when are we getting a new podcast? My car drives are getting boring.

Posted by: Community Organizer at March 30, 2016 03:59 PM (9VLhN)

611 >>>Serious question Ace, would you really walk away from Ryan? Wwouldn't he be better than Hillary?

can't do it, can't vote for Professor Amnesty.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:59 PM (dciA+)

612
Fox is reporting the White house is saying your phone is safe from the feds, so you may want to watch what you put on your phone because the feds are after it.
Posted by: Skip
.........................

I watch Fox occasionally to see if Sandra Smith's skirt will malfunction.

Posted by: wth at March 30, 2016 03:59 PM (HgMAr)

613 I got beers - home brewed goodness.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 30, 2016 03:59 PM (jxbfJ)

Happy to share if you are!

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at March 30, 2016 03:59 PM (0mRoj)

614 i think by the conventions, things will have been so ugly and so draaaama-filled for so long a lot of us will be willing to accept virtually anyone.

-
And that's when I'll make my move.

- Meghan McCain

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 30, 2016 03:59 PM (Nwg0u)

615 >>One of the issues that liberals are most fanatical about is abortion. They worship at the feet of this sacred cow.

And pro-life people aren't for punishing women who have an abortion.

Punishing the monsters like Gosnell, and stopping ghoulish baby organ-harvesting Planned Parenthood, yes.
Punishing women who get a legal procedure? No.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 30, 2016 04:00 PM (NOIQH)

616 ...Walker gave the maximum endorsement that Cruz could have asked for...

Pleases both Cruz and the GOPe. Good move. Wish Walker well. Probably Cruz's VP. His name will replace Harry Truman's as a trivia question answer if he becomes President.

Posted by: scorecard at March 30, 2016 04:00 PM (CzhL0)

617 i have a strong feeling it's Ryan, and I'd walk away from that too.

-----------

I'm starting to think that Ryan may be the choice too, and perhaps not a bad one. I'm not as down on him as others, and I think those who are are not as big in numbers as they think. In other words he may not bleed as much of the base as some others would. Note - my thinking may be completely off there.

But I do think it is a big risk for the GOP to run Ryan. Because if he is as despised as people think, and he does lose - what does he do then? He'd be a very weakened Speaker, assuming he retains that position.

A big political risk for him and the party.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 04:00 PM (gmeXX)

618 I hope we pick a loser who won't embarrass us.
Posted by: jwest at March 30, 2016 03:55 PM (Zs4uk)

Because the only problem people have with Trump is that he embarrasses them. It couldn't be anything else now, could it?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 30, 2016 04:00 PM (ZKlDy)

619 @486: Well, Ace. Maybe I should come back after the election when there might be something other than Trump that you'll feel is important. I personally don't see anything that Trump has said or done recently that merits daily discussions. But, like the 199 & 201 said...its your blog. Take care!

Posted by: monique at March 30, 2016 04:00 PM (+0t2Z)

620 Who here wishes they had mom to make them lunch every day

Mmmm - pea soup.

Posted by: DaveA at March 30, 2016 04:00 PM (DL2i+)

621 BBQ Pringles

I'm highly offended by the thought of Pringles; I must go to my safe space now. ( Really I've never had the BBQ flavor; The regular ones are horrible! Up your game, Insomniac. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 30, 2016 04:00 PM (w4NZ8)

622 So Trump just said what has been the bedrock of the anti-abortion movement since it was founded? That there should be punishment for abortion if it's outlawed?

I always thought the goal of "banning abortion" was to make it an actual crime?

I'm not on board this, but funny when it's said out loud it becomes "crazy", yet that is in fact what the pro-life movement was "supposed" to be.

Posted by: Swingline at March 30, 2016 04:00 PM (ZoAWs)

623 611 >>>Serious question Ace, would you really walk away from Ryan? Wwouldn't he be better than Hillary?

can't do it, can't vote for Professor Amnesty.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:59 PM (dciA+)

I'm with Ace on this one.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 30, 2016 04:00 PM (jxbfJ)

624 More significant than any of this prattle is Cruz's swearing off of no just supporting Trump but pretty much implying he doesn't want his voters.

So, historic majorities of people who haven't been compelled to vote for the GoP are now personas non grata to Cruz

Got it.

I support Cruz, but I didn't know until now this was a suicide mission.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 30, 2016 04:01 PM (390ue)

625 >>>I think that by November, no matter who the nominee is, the push here in comments and probably on the blog will be to vote for them so Hillary doesn't win. No matter who.

i thought that with trump, i thought i could come around, I began listing the things about him I liked.

But I can't do it. He's too repulsive. Everyone has an embarrassment level, or revulsion level, and I thought I was "professional" enough about this to not care (professional meaning -- who cares if Trump embarrasses me/disgusts me? Let's build the wall), but it turns out I wasn't as professional as I thought.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 04:01 PM (dciA+)

626 "New York is proportional, so Cruz can win delegates there."

It's WTA if you're over 50%, and Trump has been polling over 50%

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 30, 2016 04:01 PM (r1fLd)

627 He just creeps me out. He looks creepy, his voice is creepy, he just gives off a very weird and unlikable vibe. I would not want to be friends w/ him or be next to him on a plane. HOWEVER if he is the nominee I *will* vote for him, but that very negative emotional response is visceral and is very strong. If I didn't follow politics I would not be able to look past it and vote for him in a general.

Now, I don't get this even though I hear it a lot but this is key to understand. Even well-informed otherwise discerning and intelligent people make a lot of decisions with this kind of gut-level reaction. No matter what the candidates actually say or stand for or who their opponent is, there's that "ew" or "yay" reaction inside each of us, and for some its a lot more powerful than others.

No matter who we are, we all react this way to people. For no sane reason, Tea Leoni makes me growl and paw at the ground. Its nothing I can even quantify. I can't stand her ideas and stances, but she's just a visceral animal level attractant for me.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 04:01 PM (39g3+)

628 Jesus Blue Hen!

Walker had been all over radio in the couple of weeks before his endorsement saying he was going to wait until after the Easter Holiday to make his endorsement specifically because he wanted maximum effect of the endorsement.

"Maximum effect"

There's a couple of ways to respond to this, but the first three or four were too caustic; Morons have to have regard for one another.

Generally, endorsing someone and campaigning with him/for him are hand in hand. And generally, the earlier the better. Especially if your guy is up against a media celebrity AND a spoiler who has some kind of party support.

I don't recall any elections where last minute endorsements were preferable to early ones that staked out the ground and were followed up by appearances.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 30, 2016 04:01 PM (326rv)

629 >>> I'd love to see either Cruz or Trump lift Kasich over their head and swing him around and toss him into the audience.

"And Rubio gets a sleeper hold? How about a pile driver?"

::: looks around for a metal folding chair to throw in the ring :::

Posted by: torquewrench at March 30, 2016 04:01 PM (noWW6)

630 Get over it. The Republican party is dead --which is what most of you wanted.

Trump has effectively marginalized your ideas.

Go start a third party.

Posted by: Unfettered Power at March 30, 2016 04:02 PM (mcm0N)

631 I'm highly offended by the thought of Pringles; I must go to my safe space now. ( Really I've never had the BBQ flavor; The regular ones are horrible! Up your game, Insomniac. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 30, 2016 04:00 PM (w4NZ

Fine, be that way.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at March 30, 2016 04:02 PM (0mRoj)

632 First of all, the healthcare ship has sailed. We had a couple of bites at that apple and never did anything. The republican congress hasn't even tried to overturn it for fear of veto, yet they haven't even tried or pressed the issue. McConnell and the rest quickly switched from repeal to fix it. And of course Roberts, who was so conservative your sainted Cruz wrote he was "one of the best constitutional minds in the country" could've struck it down but didn't (but boy howdy Cruz is sure gonna pick a great supreme court justice by golly!).

Second of all, who gives a shit? There are 2 major issues at play this election that will determine whether we can start the road to recovering America or whether America is completely gone rather than mostly gone. Those issues are Immigration (border security - i.e. a wall among several other things, halting muslim immigration until at the least a proper vetting process is conducted, taking steps to get rid of the illegals and overstayers here, and decreasing legal immigration until at the very least the economy has improved) and Trade, namely shutting down TPP.

On those 2 issues Trump is the ONLY one that has provided consistent Pro-American answers. Cruz is late on the immigration train and is simply drafting off Trump after being for an increase in H1B visas and a being practically a no-show on the Gang of 8 nonsense - see Kaus' article on this. Cruz was the one that pushed for TPA which will usher in TPP and was a YUGE proponent of TPP - see Stephen Miller's account of this and Cruz's own Op-Ed w/ Paul Ryan. He only switched because of Ex-Im Bank provision??? So that means he would be for TPP without that provision which is still an ideological no-go for me.

So on the two biggest issues Trump is pro-American and Cruz is not. Frankly for this election all other issues are pissing in the wind. We have to try to mitigate future collapse before we nibble at the edges of things we've been living with but not happy about for the last several years. If you care about some of these other issues such as Cruz is going to disband the IRS (he won't), reform education (you want feds out of education, you'll take end of common core, you'll get a token of that), etc then vote for Cruz because he'll talk a good game and then won't get much done on those fronts. And he might build a wall since he's had to adopt that stance now, but he's not going to reduce legal immigration and he sure as shit isn't gonna implement e-verify because his donors wouldn't be happy about that. So go ahead and piss in the wind because Cruz says mostly conservative things and does verbal gymnastics about the 2 biggest issues to cloud his anti-American stances.

Posted by: LB at March 30, 2016 04:02 PM (rcDDX)

633 Most recent poll of CA I have seen was done by the LA Times. Trump is up by 1 over Cruz and again, Cruz is moving up.

Its the L.A. Times.I live in L.A. there is not a snowballs chance in hell Cruz wins here.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 30, 2016 03:56 PM (lKyWE)

Add to that the significant undecided votes, Cruz is well in the running there and I think perhaps even in NY.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 04:02 PM (3JA/M)

634 Prager walked me back from the edge of NeverTrump yesterday.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 04:02 PM (fizMZ)

635 Trump is sinking like a stone with women, who are 52% of the voting population. And he's not doing great with men, either.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:59 PM (dciA+)

I hear Kasich does really well in the polls. Maybe we can talk him into being the nominee.

Posted by: jwest at March 30, 2016 04:02 PM (Zs4uk)

636 Paul Ryan: the Wisconsin-white House edition of Marco Rubio.

Posted by: Dixie Wetsworth, Florida at March 30, 2016 04:02 PM (0i5LY)

637 >>>@486: Well, Ace. Maybe I should come back after the election when there might be something other than Trump that you'll feel is important. I personally don't see anything that Trump has said or done recently that merits daily discussions.

LOL

Posted by: Heidi Cruz's Face and Michelle Fields' Arm at March 30, 2016 04:02 PM (dciA+)

638 ...How do you punish a woman who recently had an abortion?...

Make her pay for it instead of Medicaid?

Posted by: scorecard at March 30, 2016 04:03 PM (CzhL0)

639 You want Cruz.
You hate Trump.
You'll get Romney/Ryan.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 30, 2016 04:03 PM (r1fLd)

640 Oooh, other countries! Now I know we're screwed.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 30, 2016 04:03 PM (eXTZt)

641 Ryan is never gonna happen. That fable runs a close second to the one that states Bern Is really giving the Lying Hag a contest.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 30, 2016 04:03 PM (390ue)

642 Ryan will NOT take the GOP nominee bait. He's setting up the run for next time. He won't be anywhere near this epic train wreck.

Posted by: Old Buffalo at March 30, 2016 04:03 PM (h/Gg/)

643 And that's when I'll make my move.

- Meghan McCain

have you no shame? Good day to you sir!

Posted by: couch fucker at March 30, 2016 04:04 PM (326rv)

644 Or he could just come out in favor of... whats that word... ooooohhh yes: federalism. And constitutional government and shit, you know?

Posted by: Dixie Wetsworth, Florida at March 30, 2016 03:58 PM (0i5LY)

That would excite the people here.

Other voters would be asking "Why does he hate children and the sick and the old so much?"

I've been to this rodeo before and I am not touching that one, it doesn't work. No, you are never going to find a sincere enough pumpkin patch to have the Great Constitutionalist rise out of and save us all.

Find out what the voters are concerned about and go with that. If you can drag some of these other things along - great. But before you can lead you must first get into the front of the parade and the voters have been marching for a long time.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Rent Your Hill To Die On from the Outrage Outlet! at March 30, 2016 04:04 PM (hLRSq)

645 Trump is sounding like a parody of a GOP candidate.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 30, 2016 04:04 PM (Qvgg/)

646 611 >>>Serious question Ace, would you really walk away from Ryan? Wwouldn't he be better than Hillary?

can't do it, can't vote for Professor Amnesty.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 03:59 PM (dciA+)

I'm with Ace on this one.

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I just think the people who would walk are not as big of a block as they may think. And many may say they will walk, but many will come back.

He has a lot of the superficial qualities that are asked of people.

I don't think he'd be a bad choice for the party per se if you are not going with Trump or Cruz - at that point there aren't great options. But a risky one - and different from running a Romney or Perry. Ryan would be risking his future political career (they would not) and the party would be risking a Speaker they like.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 04:04 PM (gmeXX)

647 I support Cruz, but I didn't know until now this was a suicide mission.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 30, 2016 04:01 PM (390ue)

^^^THIS!

Why, oh why did Cruz start up with antagonizing Trump people as "low information", etc.? It's this kind of shooting ourselves in the foot by turning off prospective allies that totally marginalizes Conservatives.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at March 30, 2016 04:04 PM (Y5I9o)

648

the abortion comment is literally CRAZEE

but psssstttt. No one is getting rid of HUD, Obamacare or the Dept of Ed

nobody

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 04:05 PM (zOTsN)

649 Corey's brutal attack caused me to spontaneously abort.

Now I'll never know what it's like to bounce Little Marco on my knee.

Posted by: michelle fields at March 30, 2016 04:05 PM (ioqGj)

650 Now, I don't get this even though I hear it a lot but this is key to understand. Even well-informed otherwise discerning and intelligent people make a lot of decisions with this kind of gut-level reaction. No matter what the candidates actually say or stand for or who their opponent is, there's that "ew" or "yay" reaction inside each of us, and for some its a lot more powerful than others.

Sixth sense. Something guttural. Your subconscious picks up that something isn't right, but your conscious mind can't identify it.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 30, 2016 04:05 PM (bVtr0)

651 Add to that the significant undecided votes, Cruz is well in the running there and I think perhaps even in NY.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 04:02 PM (3JA/M)

NY is also proportional so Trump could win and still be left with far less than the who enchilada

Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 04:05 PM (3JA/M)

652 639 You want Cruz.
You hate Trump.
You'll get Romney/Ryan.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 30, 2016 04:03 PM (r1fLd)

They say, "Third time's the charm".

...and you can't have a "third" time without a "second". So, YEE-HAW!

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at March 30, 2016 04:06 PM (Y5I9o)

653 Posted by: jwest at March 30, 2016 04:02 PM (Zs4uk)

God that talking point of his is so tired. In 2 weeks of frontal assaults by Team Clinton he'd be down and out.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 30, 2016 04:06 PM (tM4uk)

654 It seems Trump pounds another nail into his coffin every day.
The clearest path Hillary has to the WH is if Trump runs as a 3rd party candidate and gets as many votes as Perot. The 2nd clearest path is if she runs against Trump head-to-head.
WASS.

Posted by: Hank at March 30, 2016 04:06 PM (HrP/+)

655 California Primary is closed, and each Congressional District is its own little mini Race...

ie, whoever wins that district, gets that vote.

then the other Calif votes go for whoever wins the State.

Posted by: Don Quixote at March 30, 2016 04:06 PM (qf6WZ)

656 >>> the picture of Heidi Cruz was "nice," but... um, people aren't stupid enough to believe what you need them to believe.

Too bad the fart sniffers in the early Fields thread didn't get a whiff of that.

Amazing how people will actually bad mouth and excuse make for Trump but don't see the big picture. Trump is going to curb stomped over his weird and unwarranted nasty habit of taking shots at women. How can anybody think this is going to help him win in November?

Posted by: Arson Wells at March 30, 2016 04:06 PM (/E+t2)

657 Trump is sounding like a parody of a GOP candidate.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 30, 2016 04:04 PM (Qvgg/)

That's okay. The United States is now a parody of a republic.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 04:06 PM (s5o+q)

658 I don't recall any elections where last minute endorsements were preferable to early ones that staked out the ground and were followed up by appearances.

While there are definitely benefits to more time campaigning with the endorsee, there are also benefits for the endorsee getting more news time, especially favorable news time, on the eve of the actual election.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 30, 2016 04:06 PM (2lndx)

659 Ryan will NOT take the GOP nominee bait. He's setting up the run for next time. He won't be anywhere near this epic train wreck.

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It would be very risky for him to do it. But that risk makes me think that you are right. I guess the only reason why he might, is he surveys the other side and says I'll never face a weaker opponent than Hillary.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 04:06 PM (gmeXX)

660 Conservatism has failed us in the last, oh, 15 years. It's time to admit Bush was no conservative at all. It's time to admit neo-cons are not conservatives at all. It's time to stop worshiping the damn constitution like a bunch of King James Bible worshipers.

I am for Trump because I look at the rest of these morons -- the strongest lineup ever! -- and see complete and utter failure. Sad, but that's where I stand today. I don't know what to call myself anymore.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 30, 2016 04:06 PM (eXTZt)

661 I have a new political theory. Its probably very old but I had not heard it before. I call it the Monty Hall theory. On Monty Hall with the choice of 3 doors contestants very rarely would switch from their initial choice when Monty opened one of the dud doors, but statistically they should have switched to increase their chances of winning from 1/3 to 1/2.

In politics once people have decided they like or in some cases dislike politician A, they cling to that choice. All politicians use this to try to appeal to "base" voters in primary and then win over the LIV crowd in the general, trusting that folks that voted for them in the primary are very very unlikely to switch sides come November.

This year I'm seeing politicians banking quite early that the folks that decided they like them are not going to change their minds regardless of what information comes out. Hillary with the classified emails for instance. Her voters are not going to be steered away from her just because she sold state secrets (yeah I know they have not released any hard evidence of that, but *I* think she did this as well as the pay to play stuff as Sec. of State)

Posted by: Palerider at March 30, 2016 04:07 PM (dkExz)

662 Add to that the significant undecided votes, Cruz is well in the running there and I think perhaps even in NY.

Posted by: redbanzai

his NY Values slams? No Cruz will go down like a 5 dollar hooker in NY

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 04:07 PM (zOTsN)

663
when he said he could shoot someone and not lose support, i did not envision that it'd be Trump he shot.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90

thread winner.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 30, 2016 04:07 PM (326rv)

664
"But I can't do it. He's too repulsive. Everyone has an embarrassment level, or revulsion level, and I thought I was "professional" enough about this to not care (professional meaning -- who cares if Trump embarrasses me/disgusts me? Let's build the wall), but it turns out I wasn't as professional as I thought. "

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 04:01 PM (dciA+)

Yeah, this Trump fellow is just about as bad as that Palin woman.

It seems the more embarrassing the candidate, the bigger the stadium you need to hold all the people who want to vote for them.

We'll do fine packing the Velvet Room at the Ramada Inn with Kasich fans.

Winning's not everything. There are principles involved.

Posted by: jwest at March 30, 2016 04:07 PM (Zs4uk)

665 I thought Ace would come out firing today after the debacle of yesterday. Been pretty tepid, really.

Waddyathink ? Val-U-Rite Flu ? Late nite at the Asian Spa ? Molting, perhaps ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 30, 2016 04:08 PM (fiGNd)

666 I simply can't believe ace would sell out to Salem for $5.

Now $10, plus a supple tanned luxurious hobo pelt, suitable for formal wear occasions...

Maybe.

Posted by: GnuBreed TC>>DT>>>>HC/BS at March 30, 2016 04:08 PM (gyKtp)

667 It would be very risky for him to do it. But that risk makes me think that you are right. I guess the only reason why he might, is he surveys the other side and says I'll never face a weaker opponent than Hillary.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 04:06 PM (gmeXX)

Weaker than Hillary? Hillary term II.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 30, 2016 04:08 PM (tM4uk)

668 I hear Kasich does really well in the polls. Maybe we can talk him into being the nominee.

Posted by: jwest at March 30, 2016 04:02 PM (Zs4uk)

Nice straw man, need a light?

Posted by: Arson Wells at March 30, 2016 04:08 PM (/E+t2)

669 I am a little puzzled at all the rending of garments from people who wanted the GOP to die a slow painful death. Then stepped up the internecine warfare and its ultimate demise by focusing mostly on issues that would make the National Enquirer or TMZ proud.

It's not like you really gave a shit.

Then Cruz gets elevated way beyond any reasonable expectation.

But you know, it's Trump who is the antichrist or something.

More like a personal obsession to some. ..

Posted by: Marcus T at March 30, 2016 04:09 PM (390ue)

670 Flawless male logic, California is winner take all by district, not state-wide.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 04:09 PM (UBBWX)

671 There was a time when I could depend on my fellow morons to mock this Michelle Fields fiasco just as they mocked the Rolling Stone rape fiasco. No more. The Trump hatred trumps all, turns the Right into the Left.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 30, 2016 04:09 PM (eXTZt)

672 I don't recall any elections where last minute endorsements were preferable to early ones that staked out the ground and were followed up by appearances.

While there are definitely benefits to more time campaigning with the endorsee, there are also benefits for the endorsee getting more news time, especially favorable news time, on the eve of the actual election

Agreed. And if you can 'make' that news cycle about yourself (and keep it) it's a gain.

Trump has shown himself to be adept at seizing news cycles.

So would this be the best tactic here?

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 30, 2016 04:10 PM (326rv)

673 We'll do fine packing the Velvet Room at the Ramada Inn with Kasich fans

OK

that was funny

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 04:10 PM (zOTsN)

674 Winning's not everything. There are principles involved.

Posted by: jwest at March 30, 2016 04:07 PM (Zs4uk)
Actually, yeah. Republicans won with W.'s "compassionate conservatism", and how did that turn out exactly?

Posted by: chemjeff at March 30, 2016 04:10 PM (+Fl7e)

675 I guess the only reason why he might, is he surveys the other side and says I'll never face a weaker opponent than Hillary.

Weak?
"Guilty-as-sin-free-as-a-bird, CinC of the Free Shit Army?"
Weak?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 30, 2016 04:10 PM (bVtr0)

676 Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Rent Your Hill To Die On from the Outrage Outlet! at March 30, 2016 04:04 PM (hLRSq)
______

I understand not making your opposition to the governments involvement front and center, but there is a difference between being careful when selling smaller government and simply vomiting vulgar-leftist ideas about the role of government into the public debate. If you re doing the latter, you re not helping.

Posted by: Dixie Wetsworth, Florida at March 30, 2016 04:10 PM (0i5LY)

677 But I can't do it. He's too repulsive. Everyone has an embarrassment level, or revulsion level, and I thought I was "professional" enough about this to not care (professional meaning -- who cares if Trump embarrasses me/disgusts me? Let's build the wall), but it turns out I wasn't as professional as I thought.

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This is interesting. I feel like I should feel the same way, but I just don't. Maybe because I'm in that millenial-ish age bracket and I spent so much time listening to people like Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert portray every republican that way. For as long as I can remember, among my peers and social group, I've been embarrassed by my politicians. The fact that this one actually deserves it... I dunno. It just doesn't bother me. If he's the nominee I'll vote for him instead of Bernie or Shrillary. I'd much rather an actual conservative in his place, but the choice seems as easy as it did when Romney was against Obama.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 30, 2016 04:10 PM (KUaJL)

678 Conservatism has failed us in the last, oh, 15 years. It's time to admit Bush was no conservative at all. It's time to admit neo-cons are not conservatives at all. It's time to stop worshiping the damn constitution like a bunch of King James Bible worshipers.

... so, all those people weren't conservatives, but we shouldn't be them because conservatism doesn't work even though they aren't conservatives and it failed by not being used?

What?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 04:11 PM (39g3+)

679
It's time to admit Bush was no conservative at all. It's time to admit neo-cons are not conservatives at all. It's time to stop worshiping the damn constitution like a bunch of King James Bible worshipers.

One of these things is not like the others.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 30, 2016 04:11 PM (FkBIv)

680 It would be very risky for him to do it. But that risk makes me think that you are right. I guess the only reason why he might, is he surveys the other side and says I'll never face a weaker opponent than Hillary.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 04:06 PM (gmeXX)

Weaker than Hillary? Hillary term II.

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Yeah, what if it is Cruz II and Ryan never gets a chance?

I don't know what he wants. Does he want to be President? He's already risen to a pretty powerful level - for some that is enough, and maybe it is for him. He seems comfortable as a wonk.

I see the appeal of a Ryan nomination to the GOP (even though many here do not) but I'm not sure it appeals to him.

I guess I have talked myself out of Ryan considering it. But his ambition may be stronger than I realize.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 04:11 PM (gmeXX)

681 I can do Party Trix for a fee

Posted by: Woman Who Eats Cereal Out of A Bathtub at March 30, 2016 04:11 PM (gs8be)

682 Actually, yeah. Republicans won with W.'s "compassionate conservatism", and how did that turn out exactly?
Posted by: chemjeff

A lot better than things are now.

Posted by: Swingline at March 30, 2016 04:11 PM (ZoAWs)

683 "We'll do fine packing the Velvet Room at the Ramada Inn with Kasich fans."

Can we book Murph And The Magictones as the musical act?

Posted by: torquewrench at March 30, 2016 04:12 PM (noWW6)

684 Actually, yeah. Republicans won with W.'s "compassionate conservatism", and how did that turn out exactly?

Posted by: chemjeff at March 30, 2016 04:10 PM (+Fl7e)

We controlled the White House for 8 years. Bush sucked, but not as bad as having Hillary as president.

Posted by: jwest at March 30, 2016 04:12 PM (Zs4uk)

685 We'll do fine packing the Velvet Room at the Ramada Inn with Kasich fans

There's a booth open at Denny's.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 30, 2016 04:12 PM (rwI+c)

686 "Corey's brutal attack caused me to spontaneously abort.

Now I'll never know what it's like to bounce Little Marco on my knee."

Classy. Trump's gonna be yuuuuge with Women.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 04:12 PM (UBBWX)

687 Trump is sounding like a parody of a GOP candidate.

Hah. I think you're onto something. "What do the rubes want?".

This way to the Egress!

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 30, 2016 04:12 PM (1xUj/)

688 Actually, yeah. Republicans won with W.'s "compassionate conservatism", and how did that turn out exactly?
Posted by: chemjeff

And then the Muslims attacked.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 04:12 PM (s5o+q)

689 We controlled the White House for 8 years. Bush sucked, but not as bad as having Hillary as president.

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Trump's no Bush.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 04:13 PM (gmeXX)

690 Trump has shown himself to be adept at seizing news cycles.

So would this be the best tactic here?
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 30, 2016 04:10 PM (326rv)

Maybe he should go to a bowling alley and "accidently" get his tiny little vienna sausages stuck in one of the kiddie bowling balls.

Then he could proclaim his fingers really do "almost fit a large glove.".

Posted by: Arson Wells at March 30, 2016 04:13 PM (/E+t2)

691 I guess I have talked myself out of Ryan considering it. But his ambition may be stronger than I realize.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 04:11 PM (gmeXX)

Rumor has it he wants to rewrite the tax code as chair of ways and means.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 30, 2016 04:13 PM (tM4uk)

692 A question. There's the lady who abandoned Trump's campaign who is now claiming it was a protest vote that got completely out of control and now it's just all about his ego. Assuming this is true (which even to someone like me, who dreads the possibility of a Trump presidency, just sounds too good to be true), is it possible he's deliberately (or perhaps unconsciously) self-destructing? I mean, everything since the Heidi Cruz blowup has been even more of a dumpster fire than usual.

Posted by: Il Padrino at March 30, 2016 04:13 PM (TasoZ)

693 I'd much rather an actual conservative in his place, but the choice seems as easy as it did when Romney was against Obama.

Sure. If you could gag and vote for McCain and sigh, then vote for Romney... how much worse is a Trump vote, to stop Hillary?

I think by November that's where people are going to be at, and more than a few Democrats will consider it over the monster that Hillary represents. But who knows? We're in uncharted territory here, folks. Here there be dragons.

People who think that someone CANNOT win or ABSOLUTELY will win have a lot better crystal ball than I do.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 04:13 PM (39g3+)

694 We controlled the White House for 8 years. Bush sucked, but not as bad as having Hillary as president.

Posted by: jwest at March 30, 2016 04:12 PM (Zs4uk)
If by "we" you mean "limited government conservatives", then no, "we" did not control the White House. But Republicans did. That's the point.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 30, 2016 04:13 PM (+Fl7e)

695 Punishing women who get a legal procedure? No.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 30, 2016 04:00 PM (NOIQH)

Canckles and the Fossil will have field day with this remark. He wants to enslave women and keep us barefoot, and pregnant!!!

It is these unforced errors that he keeps committing that are really stupid. Megyn Kelly, Carly Fiorina, Fields, etc. I think that he is confusing about being forthright and direct with being a boorish shaved ape.

Posted by: Cheri at March 30, 2016 04:13 PM (oiNtH)

696 Trump's no Bush.
Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 04:13 PM (gmeXX)

He is, I believe, a dick, not a bush.

He said so himself, I think.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 04:14 PM (s5o+q)

697 This way to the Great Egress!

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 30, 2016 04:14 PM (rwI+c)

698
Isn't Trump the guy who let Geraldo get runner-up on Celebrity Apprentice?

Posted by: kind of lame at March 30, 2016 04:14 PM (HgMAr)

699 UN wants countries to take more "Syrians ", there nice people and need a home away from the violence.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 04:14 PM (fizMZ)

700 "It's time to stop worshiping the damn constitution like a bunch of King James Bible worshipers."

What the hell! Joking, I hope?

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 30, 2016 04:14 PM (OD2ni)

701 What?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 04:11 PM (39g3+)

Thank you, It's not just me either.

Posted by: Arson Wells at March 30, 2016 04:14 PM (/E+t2)

702 "Winning's not everything. There are principles involved. "

Yes, you keep telling yourself that as another Democrat continues the destruction and our children inherit a country on course for disaster. It will make a fitting epitaph.

Me? I would rather win than listen to a bunch of hens who apparently have forgotten over 200 years of political realities cluck about "principles" they can't even artfully articulate into political and electoral realities.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 30, 2016 04:14 PM (390ue)

703 Amazing how people will actually bad mouth and excuse make for Trump but don't see the big picture. Trump is going to curb stomped over his weird and unwarranted nasty habit of taking shots at women. How can anybody think this is going to help him win in November?
Posted by: Arson Wells at March 30, 2016 04:06 PM (/E+t2)

Look at Megyn's smile at Trump's compliment here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNZsZoGAALA

After all the shots he took at her.

Women voters generally go for the candidate they are attracted to. Now are women going to be attracted to Hillary Clinton, or Billionaire Trump with the Hot Wife?

(Notice how girls pay more attention to married guys or men who already have a GF?)

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 04:14 PM (uURQL)

704 671 There was a time when I could depend on my fellow morons to mock this Michelle Fields fiasco just as they mocked the Rolling Stone rape fiasco.

You take that shit right back. I socked Michelle Fields several times this morning ... AND did parody songs Arm of Glass and While Your Left Arm Gently Weeps.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 30, 2016 04:14 PM (fiGNd)

705 But honest question, if abortion is outlawed (which is the pro-life position) and someone gets an illegal abortion, what do you do?

If abortion is murder, then doesn't someone rot in a jail cell their entire life?

So if your pro-life, how do you have a problem with Trump saying there should be a punishment for people who engage in abortion?

Posted by: Swingline at March 30, 2016 04:15 PM (ZoAWs)

706 A question. There's the lady who abandoned Trump's campaign who is now claiming it was a protest vote that got completely out of control and now it's just all about his ego. Assuming this is true (which even to someone like me, who dreads the possibility of a Trump presidency, just sounds too good to be true), is it possible he's deliberately (or perhaps unconsciously) self-destructing? I mean, everything since the Heidi Cruz blowup has been even more of a dumpster fire than usual.
Posted by: Il Padrino at March 30, 2016 04:13 PM (TasoZ)

I've been waiting for Ace to spotlight that piece. Maybe he did it already and I missed it. I come and go a lot from here, ya know.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 04:15 PM (s5o+q)

707

unforced errors

like punished with a baby?

that kind of gaff?

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 04:15 PM (zOTsN)

708 Trump has shown himself to be adept at seizing news cycles.

If Walker had been endorsing Trump, it might have made sense to do it earlier; but since he was endorsing Cruz, I suspect the late endorsement helped cut through the media's fascination with Trump.

And I originally thought Trump was adept at seizing news cycles; now I'm not so sure it isn't the media that's seizing Trump as their preferred face for the Republican Party.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 30, 2016 04:15 PM (2lndx)

709 Start thinking Romney. He's been leading #NotTrump for at least a couple of months including by using Rubio as his Rent Boy. Another tell was his "there are some jobs no American will do" joke at a Republican event last week leading into the the War on Wives. You know he wants it and would have run if the GOPe Inner Circle hadn't decided it was Jeb's turn.

It was Barzini all along.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 30, 2016 04:15 PM (r1fLd)

710 And then the Muslims attacked.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 04:12 PM (s5o+q)
Umm no, the Muslims didn't make Bush sign NCLB or Medicare Part D or blow up the budget with his insane spending sprees *at the time*. He and his fellow Republicans did that all on their own. Bush was no champion of limited government that is for sure. So yes, principles are important and if you want someone who will actually restrain the growth of the government, voting for whomever has an R behind their name won't necessarily do the job.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 30, 2016 04:15 PM (+Fl7e)

711 Flawless male logic, California is winner take all by district, not state-wide.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 04:09 PM (UBBWX)

You are mostly correct... 159 delegates are bound to the winner of each of Cali's 53 congressional districts (3 delegates each). the remaining 13 delegates go to the statewide winner.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 04:15 PM (3JA/M)

712 But I can't do it. He's too repulsive. Everyone has
an embarrassment level, or revulsion level, and I thought I was
"professional" enough about this to not care (professional meaning --
who cares if Trump embarrasses me/disgusts me? Let's build the wall),
but it turns out I wasn't as professional as I thought.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 04:01 PM (dciA+)

Your problem is that you're too optimistic. You imagine that if you can just pull off a series of primary coups that spans many election cycles then we'll rest control of the GOP and from there we'll launch a decades long campaign to recapture the American culture. You aren't the only one on the conservative side who has that line of thought. You imagine that you will pull the same trick that the progressives pulled, but you don't realize that they could work for decades to bring down the social order because we enabled them by working to keep things running.We abandoned whole sectors to them, like entertainment, and education, and all the while toiled to keep the lights on, and the trains running. They used that light, and took those trains to attack even more institutions, and that is the way it went, on and on. They won't work to keep the lights on for you, mostly because they don't know how to keep the lights on. You don't have decades to do what they did.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 30, 2016 04:16 PM (flJ92)

713 660 Conservatism has failed us in the last, oh, 15 years.

I strongly disagree.
Conservatiism has not failed us. The GOP elites have failed us. What you say about Bush is true - he wasn't a true conservative. It is the conservative base that delivered the House majority. It was the conservative base that delivered the Senate. It was the GOP Elite that promptly shit on all of like pigeons once they got their power.

But because someone attempts to clothe themselves with a conservative robe, does not make them conservative. (Bush, Ryan, Rubio, ad nauseum).

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 30, 2016 04:16 PM (jxbfJ)

714 is it possible he's deliberately (or perhaps unconsciously)
self-destructing? I mean, everything since the Heidi Cruz blowup has
been even more of a dumpster fire than usual.

--

That is possible, if he was in collusion with Cruz. It is also just as possible that he is laying the groundwork for the DNC ads for the fall.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 30, 2016 04:16 PM (Qvgg/)

715 it's Ryan, and I'd walk away from that too.

Unless he vowed

Vowed-schmowed - The 1st thing he did with the gavel was pay for Obama fucking Everything. He can no more be trusted than Rubio.

Posted by: DaveA at March 30, 2016 04:16 PM (DL2i+)

716 Umm no, the Muslims didn't make Bush sign NCLB or Medicare Part D or blow up the budget with his insane spending sprees *at the time*. He and his fellow Republicans did that all on their own. Bush was no champion of limited government that is for sure. So yes, principles are important and if you want someone who will actually restrain the growth of the government, voting for whomever has an R behind their name won't necessarily do the job.
Posted by: chemjeff at March 30, 2016 04:15 PM (+Fl7e)

But Bush isn't running.

You're "fighting the last war" I think.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 04:16 PM (s5o+q)

717 >> I simply can't believe ace would sell out to Salem for $5.
Now $10, plus a supple tanned luxurious hobo pelt, suitable for formal wear occasions...
Maybe

All it takes is an Elegant Dinner and a few Etchings.

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2016 04:16 PM (MvFEq)

718 So if your pro-life, how do you have a problem with Trump saying there should be a punishment for people who engage in abortion?

---------

Because if you are pro-life you want to advance the pro-life position, clumsy politicians who have not thought through the position because they have never really thought about it or have been on the opposite side cannot do that.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 04:16 PM (gmeXX)

719 I am for Trump because I look at the rest of these morons -- the strongest lineup ever! -- and see complete and utter failure. Sad, but that's where I stand today. I don't know what to call myself anymore.
Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 30, 2016 04:06 PM (eXTZt)

Trump is the Nationalist option.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 04:16 PM (uURQL)

720 As much of an egostical douchebag Trump is, I do get the sense he actually does love America. I get no such sense from Hillary at all. None. I get the sense she has only hate in her, for everything. At least with President Obama, he seems to genuinely like kids, and act like a human being with them.

I see nothing human in Hillary at all. She's devoid of what makes us who we are, there's no "well at least she likes dogs" in there at all.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 04:16 PM (39g3+)

721 Nood.

Posted by: HH at March 30, 2016 04:16 PM (DrCtv)

722 "A question. There's the lady who abandoned Trump's campaign who is now claiming it was a protest vote that got completely out of control and now it's just all about his ego. Assuming this is true (which even to someone like me, who dreads the possibility of a Trump presidency, just sounds too good to be true), is it possible he's deliberately (or perhaps unconsciously) self-destructing? I mean, everything since the Heidi Cruz blowup has been even more of a dumpster fire than usual."

Yes. Its very possible. Notice how he continues to wing it, not really spend any money, etc.

The main goal will now be to be able to claim "I wuz robbed."

Actually, if he just elevated his pet issues of trade and immigration and now bowed out, he'd have accomplished a lot.

Unfortunately, he just can't quit, can he?

If he mentally wants to be done, he needs to "lose" but in such a manner he can still capitalize on it.

If this is actually true. He may still think he has a shot.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 04:17 PM (UBBWX)

723 Look, I understand math.

When a poll is taken of adults, then automatically 3 points are removed for republicans and 3 points are added for democrats because of the difference in land lines (that existed 12 years ago and is non-existent today), then the poll is weighted to reflect the same turnout as Obama had, Trump, at the height of being attacked by his own party, doesn't do too well.

It's science.

You just can't argue with the numbers.

Posted by: jwest at March 30, 2016 04:17 PM (Zs4uk)

724 Trump's no Bush.
Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 04:13 PM (gmeXX)

He is, I believe, a dick, not a bush.

He said so himself, I think.
Posted by: filbert

there is a joke in here somewhere

Posted by: ThunderB at March 30, 2016 04:17 PM (zOTsN)

725 677 For as long as I can remember, among my peers and social group, I've been embarrassed by my politicians. The fact that this one actually deserves it... I dunno. It just doesn't bother me. If he's the nominee I'll vote for him instead of Bernie or Shrillary. I'd much rather an actual conservative in his place, but the choice seems as easy as it did when Romney was against Obama.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 30, 2016 04:10 PM (KUaJL)

Ditto. I think most Trump supporters are just so sick of being insulted by the Left/Dems for being disgusting, that when their supposed allies on the Right/GOP start doing it, it feels like a double FU. I think this is why a lot of the Trump criticism is backfiring, even though it's completely sound from a policy point of view.

After a dog's been kicked for so long, it just becomes mean to anyone. I know it's irrational, but recognizing the irrationality is a first step towards successful persuasion. Calling Trump supporters irrational and pointing out their flaws isn't going to work; it's not about that.

We need more "I feel your pain" in Conservative rhetoric to the base.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at March 30, 2016 04:17 PM (Y5I9o)

726 Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 04:16 PM (s5o+q)

My *point*, is that principles DO matter, and that voting for Trump just because he has an R behind his name is stupid.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 30, 2016 04:18 PM (+Fl7e)

727 You just can't argue with the numbers.

Did you even see the 9^9^9 thread ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 30, 2016 04:18 PM (fiGNd)

728 692 A question. There's the lady who abandoned Trump's campaign who is now claiming it was a protest vote that got completely out of control and now it's just all about his ego. Assuming this is true (which even to someone like me, who dreads the possibility of a Trump presidency, just sounds too good to be true), is it possible he's deliberately (or perhaps unconsciously) self-destructing? I mean, everything since the Heidi Cruz blowup has been even more of a dumpster fire than usual.
Posted by: Il Padrino at March 30, 2016 04:13 PM (TasoZ)

-----------------

That was debunked yesterday on Rush's show. She belonged to a small, now non-existent PAC. She was never part of his campaign staff.

Posted by: Soona at March 30, 2016 04:18 PM (Fmupd)

729 720 As much of an egostical douchebag Trump is, I do get the sense he actually does love America. I get no such sense from Hillary at all. None. I get the sense she has only hate in her, for everything. At least with President Obama, he seems to genuinely like kids, and act like a human being with them.
I see nothing human in Hillary at all. She's devoid of what makes us who we are, there's no "well at least she likes dogs" in there at all.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 04:16 PM (39g3+)

If it ends up as Trump v. Hilary, this is a main reason I would suck it up and vote Trump.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at March 30, 2016 04:18 PM (Y5I9o)

730 But honest question, if abortion is outlawed (which is the pro-life position) and someone gets an illegal abortion, what do you do?

Shoot the abortionist. Shame and shun the girl. Rinse and repeat.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 04:19 PM (uURQL)

731
Flawless male logic, California is winner take all by district, not state-wide.

The districts that matter in Ca are all located in the greater L.A. area and the Bay area.and they ain't voting Cruz. Ca is not porportinal the candidate that wind that wins the highest delegate count by districts wins all the delegates

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 30, 2016 04:19 PM (lKyWE)

732 Why do you all hate persons and presents of color? Bush lied for eight years and that was OK and Presdent Obama is trying so hards to fix all these problems but all you do is make fun of him. Bush lied and Trump lied about our Presdent Of Color and he shoul be thrown in jail for trying to extinguish Presdent of Oblama's rite to free speech.....

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at March 30, 2016 04:19 PM (KRuzk)

733 Umm no, the Muslims didn't make Bush sign NCLB or Medicare Part D or blow up the budget with his insane spending sprees *at the time*.

No, Congress did that. The GOP controlled congress, no less. Bush was wrong in doing so, but he did it out a sense of separation of powers - notice he almost never vetoed anything? Because he thought his job as president was to sign bills the people through representatives presented him unless blatantly unconstitutional as he understood it.

Bush gave congress deeply slashing budgets, and they gave him debt-ballooning crap back.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 04:19 PM (39g3+)

734 We need more "I feel your pain" in Conservative rhetoric to the base.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at March 30, 2016 04:17 PM (Y5I9o)

But but but that would just be adopting a "leftist tactic" which means we anti-Trumpers are just "stealth progressives" or some such...

Posted by: chemjeff at March 30, 2016 04:20 PM (+Fl7e)

735 Though I imagine a few hangings of women who killed their own child would be a bit more effective than shaming.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 04:20 PM (uURQL)

736 Because if you are pro-life you want to advance the pro-life position, clumsy politicians who have not thought through the position because they have never really thought about it or have been on the opposite side cannot do that.
Posted by: SH

The position itself is really a fantasy, that's why when someone says out loud what it would actually mean it sounds absolutely crazy.

People just want to say "pro-life" but if you're not willing to put someone in prison for engaging in an abortion, what exactly are we arguing about every election?

Posted by: Swingline at March 30, 2016 04:20 PM (ZoAWs)

737 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 04:19 PM (39g3+)

oh cut the crap, Bush *campaigned* on NCLB and Medicare Part D, he was not an innocent victim to Congress' machinations

Posted by: chemjeff at March 30, 2016 04:21 PM (+Fl7e)

738 We are all so proud of our presdent of color....Our you ???????

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at March 30, 2016 04:21 PM (KRuzk)

739 People just want to say "pro-life" but if you're not willing to put someone in prison for engaging in an abortion, what exactly are we arguing about every election?

Good point.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 30, 2016 04:21 PM (fiGNd)

740 After a dog's been kicked for so long, it just becomes mean to anyone. I know it's irrational, but recognizing the irrationality is a first step towards successful persuasion. Calling Trump supporters irrational and pointing out their flaws isn't going to work; it's not about that.

After being lied to by the party for 30+ years about the candidates' conservative bonafides, only to have the R candidate SLIGHTLY less dem than the dem, yeah. FU.

Q: What R president has shrunk the size of government? What R president has eliminated federal departments?

A: NONE

Done. Let. It. Burn.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 30, 2016 04:21 PM (bVtr0)

741 My *point*, is that principles DO matter, and that voting for Trump just because he has an R behind his name is stupid.
Posted by: chemjeff at March 30, 2016 04:18 PM (+Fl7e)

Yep. See my "cheerleader" comment upthread.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 04:22 PM (s5o+q)

742 But but but that would just be adopting a "leftist tactic" which means we anti-Trumpers are just "stealth progressives" or some such...
Posted by: chemjeff at March 30, 2016 04:20 PM (+Fl7e)

...not sure what you're responding to.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at March 30, 2016 04:22 PM (Y5I9o)

743 706. Rush touched on this yesterday. She was never in Trump's campaign, she worked for a PAC. Hmm pro-trump PACs? Probably the PAC benefitted him by attacking a conservative which was supposed to help Jeb.

Posted by: Palerider at March 30, 2016 04:22 PM (dkExz)

744 People just want to say "pro-life" but if you're not willing to put someone in prison for engaging in an abortion, what exactly are we arguing about every election?

You're seriously incapable of understanding that you can outlaw something without throwing ever single person involved in it at all levels into prison? Abortion used to be illegal in the country without women being punished for it. This isn't exactly cryptic or some vast secret.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 04:22 PM (39g3+)

745 People just want to say "pro-life" but if you're not willing to put someone in prison for engaging in an abortion, what exactly are we arguing about every election?

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Ultimately, I (and most pro-lifers are). I'm willing to put those who perform the abortion in jail.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 04:22 PM (gmeXX)

746
UN wants countries to take more "Syrians ", there nice people and need a home away from the violence.
Posted by: Skip

Some woman on NPR said the USA should take in at least 5 million.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 30, 2016 04:22 PM (FkBIv)

747 unforced errors
like punished with a baby?
that kind of gaff?
Posted by: ThunderB

No. Abortion is not going to be outlawed. The best that can be hoped is that late term is shot down consistently and that PP facilities are forced to have the same infection and patient safety standards as hospitals. For the monsters like Gosnell, life in prison.

Unforced errors with untoward comments to women that frankly wouldn't fly in a boardroom either. Why pick school yard fights?

Posted by: Cheri at March 30, 2016 04:22 PM (oiNtH)

748 "punished for abortion if it were illegal"
You mean like punishing people for breaking the law? Uhhh, isn't that what people are suppose to do? "if it were illegal"
Ace, re-read the statement, then apologize to Mr. Trump.

Posted by: julian at March 30, 2016 04:22 PM (H+WKG)

749 Posted by: ScoggDog at March 30, 2016 04:14 PM (fiGNd)

And those parodies were excellent.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Rent Your Hill To Die On from the Outrage Outlet! at March 30, 2016 04:23 PM (hLRSq)

750 when Monty opened one of the dud doors, but statistically they should have switched to

False - the prize doesn't move after you fail 1 door it's still a 1/3 chance.

Posted by: DaveA at March 30, 2016 04:23 PM (DL2i+)

751 But honest question, if abortion is outlawed (which is the pro-life position) and someone gets an illegal abortion, what do you do?

Right now, PP clinics have few, if any standards.

Right now, a pregnant woman in Colorado was attacked and the attacker cut her open and stole the baby. And according to Colorado, that wasn't a life. her choice didn't matter.

One of the soldiers killed at Ft. Hood was pregnant. Or government refused to acknowledge her choice.

We're nowhere near anyone being arrested and jailed for illegal abortions.

let the damned leftists ask their gotcha questions.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 30, 2016 04:23 PM (326rv)

752 I said this in the Townhall discussion last night, and I think that Trump's abortion comments are another example of it:

Has Donald Trump ever said a statement
that is 1) coherent, 2) specific and 3) true? It was said of Romney
that he spoke conservatism as a second language. Trump trying to sound
like a conservative or even a Republican is like someone who knows no Spanish using a
translation dictionary written by someone who only speaks Chinese. He
really doesn't know what we sound like.

Trump still has his Lib Dem "New York Values." He thinks that those of us in the Pro-Life movement are "anti-sex and want to punish women who choose to have sex." Nothing could be further from the truth We believe that there are more than one victim in every abortion. Not only the children, but their mothers as well. Even Planned Parenthood's research arm, the Alan Guttmacher Institute, estimates that 75% of women who have abortion do so under threat of their partners. My wife spent years working at a CPC. Part of her job was to teach classes for post-abortion healing. She helped women stitch their souls back together. So many descended into self-abuse through addictions and self harm, or allowed others to abuse themselves in bad relationships. Far from wanting to punish them, we want to love them and help them love themselves. Abortion is a horrible act, but it serves no purpose to keep them hurting themselves. And beyond the mom's, the worker in the clinics are deadening themselves every day. You cannot continually work in the such a job without losing something of yourself. You may get financially wealthy, but at a severe cost. The life stories of those that quit the business are astounding. They could live very well off, but would sink into a drugged oblivion most nights.

The Pro-Life movement is about just that: Life. It's above loving your fellow humans and trying to prevent this cycle of destruction from occurring any more. Trump knows known of this because he really isn't a conservative or a Republican, nor is he really Pro-Life. He's a carnival barker who keeps repeating these lines think that the marks will eat it up. Sadly, too many have already done so.

Posted by: calbadegr at March 30, 2016 04:23 PM (rKRC9)

753 what exactly are we arguing about every election?

What we're arguing about every election is mostly about ending federal funding.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 30, 2016 04:23 PM (2lndx)

754 There was a time when I could depend on my fellow morons to mock this Michelle Fields fiasco just as they mocked the Rolling Stone rape fiasco. No more. The Trump hatred trumps all, turns the Right into the Left.
Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 30, 2016 04:09 PM (eXTZt)

Lots of people, including people such as myself who think Trump is a disaster, have been mocking her. I would say a good portion of "Trump haters" think the whole situation is ridiculous. We may think Trump's camp unnecessarily escalated things, but the whole thing is dumb.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 30, 2016 04:23 PM (ZKlDy)

755 587 I'll save my snacks for when I watch the world burn.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at March 30, 2016 03:54 PM (0mRoj)
it's burning, whatcha got?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 30, 2016 03:56 PM (0O7c5)

Smores made with Cadbury Creme Eggs

What's Wilford Brimley doing looking at me like that???

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 30, 2016 04:24 PM (/D5Lf)

756 False - the prize doesn't move after you fail 1 door it's still a 1/3 chance.

When there's only two doors, what's the chance that when that door opens, it will be the right prize?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 30, 2016 04:25 PM (39g3+)

757 Women voters generally go for the candidate they are attracted to. Now are women going to be attracted to Hillary Clinton, or Billionaire Trump with the Hot Wife?

(Notice how girls pay more attention to married guys or men who already have a GF?)
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 04:14 PM (uURQL)

Wow

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 30, 2016 04:25 PM (ZKlDy)

758 what exactly are we arguing about every election?

What we're arguing about every election is mostly about ending federal funding.

--------

I think we're arguing about a class of people who cannot defend themselves and are being killed by the thousands to the horror of many many Americans, and the fact that the Supreme Court usurped our power to redress this wrong.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 04:25 PM (gmeXX)

759
You take that shit right back. I socked Michelle Fields several times this morning ... AND did parody songs Arm of Glass and While Your Left Arm Gently Weeps.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 30, 2016 04:14 PM (fiGNd)
__________________________

True dat,,, true dat....

Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 30, 2016 04:25 PM (HSmrB)

760 People just want to say "pro-life" but if you're not willing to put someone in prison for engaging in an abortion, what exactly are we arguing about every election?

Good point.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 30, 2016 04:21 PM (fiGNd)

Um...there are MANY more ways to establish legal disincentives than direct incarceration. This is directly out of the Leftist playbook--oh, the Pro-Lifers just want to jail women and punish them!

No, you focus on the providers(here's punishment) and on the circumstances surrounding the woman (amelioration).

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at March 30, 2016 04:25 PM (Y5I9o)

761 You're seriously incapable of understanding that you can outlaw something without throwing ever single person involved in it at all levels into prison? Abortion used to be illegal in the country without women being punished for it. This isn't exactly cryptic or some vast secret.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor

So it would be illegal in name only? Almost a joke law like "sodomy" where no one actually prosecutes?

You can't have it both ways, if abortion is murder and the law is changed to reflect that thinking, there would have to be the right sort of penalty attached to it.

So something like manslaughter charges for both the woman and doctor performing?

Posted by: Swingline at March 30, 2016 04:25 PM (ZoAWs)

762 Guys... it will be Trump or Cruz. Despite the GOPe's wishcasting (and your nightmarecasting) the rules are not going to change in such a way as to let people who don't even meet the pre-2012 rule of a plurality of votes in 5 states to get the nomination.

Again, if the GOPe had that much power, Jeb! would already be our nominee.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 04:26 PM (3JA/M)

763 And those parodies were excellent.

Thanks Mikey. Tried to do "Jupiter-Town" by Michelle Fieldsteen ... it just didn't take off.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 30, 2016 04:26 PM (fiGNd)

764 False - the prize doesn't move after you fail 1 door it's still a 1/3 chance.

When there's only two doors, what's the chance that when that door opens, it will be the right prize?

9^9^9^?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 30, 2016 04:28 PM (bVtr0)

765 "There was a time when I could depend on my fellow morons to mock this Michelle Fields fiasco just as they mocked the Rolling Stone rape fiasco. No more. The Trump hatred trumps all, turns the Right into the Left. "

Uh, maybe you don't understand what happened.

the entire grabbing incident is tiny and insignificant.

Its the brazen lying by Lewandowski that made this a story.

Hillary Clinton wasn't under sniper fire - its the lying that makes that a story.

Trump just made it worse by now saying she had a tiny bomb.

Fields only pressed charges because Trumpkins said she was a delusional liar unless she did that.

If you call someone a delusional liar and they are not, guess what? They kinda get upset. They might even make a huge stink out of nothing because you smeared them. Good job Team Trump!

you can create crap from nothing. no quite like gold from lead.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 04:28 PM (UBBWX)

766 752: If you read transcripts of any of Trumps press conferences or town halls or debates, he sounds, as has been said here before, like a mental patient off his meds. There is little to no coherent train of thought.

Posted by: Old Buffalo at March 30, 2016 04:28 PM (h/Gg/)

767 Uh, maybe you don't understand what happened.

the entire grabbing incident is tiny and insignificant.

Its the brazen lying by Lewandowski that made this a story.

Hillary Clinton wasn't under sniper fire - its the lying that makes that a story.

Trump just made it worse by now saying she had a tiny bomb.

Fields only pressed charges because Trumpkins said she was a delusional liar unless she did that.

If you call someone a delusional liar and they are not, guess what?
They kinda get upset. They might even make a huge stink out of nothing
because you smeared them. Good job Team Trump!

you can create crap from nothing. no quite like gold from lead.

Posted by: Harun at March 30, 2016 04:28 PM (UBBWX)

I agree.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 04:29 PM (3JA/M)

768
Let me take you down
Cause I'm going to be Michelle Fields
Nothing is real
And nothing to get hung about
Michelle Fields forever
Living is easy with eyes closed
Misunderstanding all you see
It's getting hard to be someone
But it all works out
It doesn't matter much to me

Posted by: The Beagles at March 30, 2016 04:29 PM (FkBIv)

769 So something like manslaughter charges for both the woman and doctor performing?

----------

Let's start with loss of license and then work from their. Perhaps that is penalty enough. This is how things work. You adjust the penalty based on whether it is having the proper deterrent effect or not.

Posted by: SH at March 30, 2016 04:29 PM (gmeXX)

770 Seriously? Punish women who get abortions?? This guy is a menace to America and to conservative-minded people in particular. He is a living, breathing, walking SNL stereotype of a right-winger and is intent on painting us all orange with his broad brush of stupidity. Unfortunately, given his present level of support, a substantial chunk of right-leaning voters are indeed stupid stereotypes of themselves.

He might as well just drop out of the race altogether as soon as he gets the Republican nomination. What's the point of him even pretending to run against Clinton? Let's just skip the election altogether and swear her in as President at the Democrat's convention.

Posted by: Laugh it up, Fuzzball! at March 30, 2016 04:30 PM (Es7YA)

771 Wow

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 30, 2016 04:25 PM (ZKlDy)

I wasn't aware we were that shallow.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 04:30 PM (3JA/M)

772 Guys... it will be Trump or Cruz. Despite the GOPe's wishcasting (and your nightmarecasting) the rules are not going to change in such a way as to let people who don't even meet the pre-2012 rule of a plurality of votes in 5 states to get the nomination.

Again, if the GOPe had that much power, Jeb! would already be our nominee.
Posted by: redbanzai

It's wonderful that you have so much confidence in an organization that screwed over the winner of the AK Senate primary. By promising someone something they had no right to promise.

They changed the rules and invalidated the primary.

but somehow you KNOW that the "rules aren't going to change".

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 30, 2016 04:30 PM (326rv)

773 So it would be illegal in name only? Almost a joke law like "sodomy" where no one actually prosecutes?

You can't have it both ways, if abortion is murder and the law is
changed to reflect that thinking, there would have to be the right sort
of penalty attached to it.

So something like manslaughter charges for both the woman and doctor performing?

Posted by: Swingline at March 30, 2016 04:25 PM (ZoAWs)

Well, abortion is a medical procedure and thus requires quite a bit of infrastructure. Making it illegal, even in name only goes a very long way in limiting it's availability.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 30, 2016 04:31 PM (flJ92)

774 768 - Artists must stick together.

A fine effort, Sir or Ma'am.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 30, 2016 04:31 PM (fiGNd)

775 All they had to do was issue an apology while sounding sincere immediately. There would have been no story after that day. Now it's a thing and completely stupid.

Posted by: Cheri at March 30, 2016 04:32 PM (oiNtH)

776 Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 04:30 PM (3JA/M)

Never underestimate us. I would make a smiley face, but....moron and all.

Posted by: kraken at March 30, 2016 04:32 PM (FqXvH)

777 Punish women who have abortions? Hmm, Trump... second look.

Still nope.

I agree 100% with the proposition, but I haven't found any of his shtick that seems it will stick should he get into office. His "positions" on issues seem too newly arrived at or fluid to trust him with my vote.

What would be a fitting punishment for women who obtain abortions?

Posted by: #NeverAbortion at March 30, 2016 04:33 PM (jvI6+)

778 When there's only two doors, what's the chance that when that door opens, it will be the right prize?

The prize didn't move. Yes the odds are 1 in 2 now vs 1 in 3 but the prize is still where it was so switching doesn't benefit you. You have more info but the trial hasn't reset so it's of no use.

Posted by: DaveA at March 30, 2016 04:34 PM (DL2i+)

779 I socked Michelle Fields several times this morning ... AND did parody songs Arm of Glass and While Your Left Arm Gently Weeps.
beep
beep

Posted by: michelle fields testifying in court at March 30, 2016 04:34 PM (ioqGj)

780 767

Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 04:29 PM (3JA/M)

Or it's all total bullshit. You know how you can tell that it's bullshit? If it were happening to Cruz you would completely reverse your position.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 30, 2016 04:34 PM (flJ92)

781 757, not the reply, but the initial comment: this does not explain Dick Nixon. at. all.

Posted by: the Butcher at March 30, 2016 04:34 PM (AGJqR)

782 Women voters generally go for the candidate they are attracted to. Now are women going to be attracted to Hillary Clinton, or Billionaire Trump with the Hot Wife?

(Notice how girls pay more attention to married guys or men who already have a GF?)
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 04:14 PM (uURQL)

Wow
Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 30, 2016 04:25 PM (ZKlDy)

Also, I thought women were all jealous of other hot women.

I'm confused.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 30, 2016 04:34 PM (ZKlDy)

783 People portray Trump as a master of media but he sure falls into trap questions a lot.

If abortion is illegal, should women be punished if they have an abortion?

Do we punish people when they break laws?

Its a trap question. Media Master Trump fell in the trap.

Posted by: wodun at March 30, 2016 04:36 PM (DD0s8)

784 So something like manslaughter charges for both the woman and doctor performing?

----------

Let's start with loss of license and then work from their. Perhaps that is penalty enough. This is how things work. You adjust the penalty based on whether it is having the proper deterrent effect or not.
Posted by: SH
_________

Obviously though if abortion is made illegal, a licensed doctor is not going to be performing it at a hospital.

So if some sort of unlicensed provider is doing it, then what?

I mean you would have to have a penalty more than say you do for selling a drug like Meth? Right? So 20 years in prison?

Ever think this is why the GOP gets killed with female voters? I don't know how you have a pro-life society unless a lot of people are going to prison.

Posted by: Swingline at March 30, 2016 04:37 PM (ZoAWs)

785 Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 04:30 PM (3JA/M)

Never underestimate us. I would make a smiley face, but....moron and all.

Posted by: kraken at March 30, 2016 04:32 PM (FqXvH)

I just learn how to make smiley faces here recently. The trick is you can't put in a nose and there can't be spaces in between the characters. So : ) typed with no spaces becomes

and : D with the space removed becomes

and you can even wink-- ; ) with the space removed becomes

Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 04:37 PM (3JA/M)

786 732 Why do you all hate persons and presents of color? Bush lied for eight years and that was OK and Presdent Obama is trying so hards to fix all these problems but all you do is make fun of him. Bush lied and Trump lied about our Presdent Of Color and he shoul be thrown in jail for trying to extinguish Presdent of Oblama's rite to free speech.....

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at March 30, 2016 04:19 PM (KRuzk)

I never excused Bush for his real lies. Now, depending on what you accuse him of lying about, well that can be an interesting debate.

I strongly dislike Obama for his overt aversion to our laws. Immigration, fast & furious, IRS, etc. His first campaign he wanted to raise America's prestige with our allies. Seems like our allies aren't thinking that highly of us lately, now are they?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 30, 2016 04:37 PM (jxbfJ)

787 OK, the "abortion penalty TBD " statement has convinced me...Trump is in this to lose this.. working for the Hillary.. he's part of the master plan to get the world's least skilled, most unlikeable politician with no nameable achievements, following a disastrous president of her party, elected anyway.

Posted by: azjaeger at March 30, 2016 04:37 PM (N/a24)

788 So women find married men more attractive...

ummm, here is my 'wedding' photo then.

👫

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 30, 2016 04:38 PM (/D5Lf)

789 Or it's all total bullshit. You know how you can
tell that it's bullshit? If it were happening to Cruz you would
completely reverse your position.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 30, 2016 04:34 PM (flJ92)

No... no I wouldn't. Nor would I ever have reason to because Cruz would have made sure his staff was not grabbing women and then bullying and demeaning them on line instead of apologizing.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 04:40 PM (3JA/M)

790

Posted by: antisocialist at March 30, 2016 04:41 PM (9n14Y)

791 redbanzai, you rock!!!

Posted by: antisocialist at March 30, 2016 04:42 PM (9n14Y)

792 ♪ Fly like a beagle
Beagle
I keep on barkin'
Barkin'
Barkin' into the future ♫

Woof! Woof!

Posted by: hilllary at March 30, 2016 04:42 PM (ioqGj)

793 Difference is Cruz supporters don't feel the need to defend every single thing he does. E.g., the vast majority of us called him out on his stupid statement during the Chicago demonstration thingie. Including Ace.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 30, 2016 04:45 PM (ZKlDy)

794 OK, the "abortion penalty TBD " statement has convinced me...Trump is in this to lose this.. working for the Hillary.. he's part of the master plan to get the world's least skilled, most unlikeable politician with no nameable achievements, following a disastrous president of her party, elected anyway.
Posted by: azjaeger

Hmmm. Throwing out a hanging curve ball for Hillary is kinda stupid.

And to do this after he is the front runner, and has played on resentment against the party?

A bunch of us ave been speculating on this, but that's all there is; speculation.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 30, 2016 04:45 PM (326rv)

795
No... no I wouldn't. Nor would I ever have
reason to because Cruz would have made sure his staff was not grabbing
women and then bullying and demeaning them on line instead of
apologizing.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 04:40 PM (3JA/M)

I think you're lying still making an issue about it if it had happened to Cruz but you are right that it wouldn't have happened to Cruz. He would have sacrificed his employee and issued a grovelling apology at the first hint of trouble.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 30, 2016 04:45 PM (flJ92)

796 #606
"Trump is sinking like a stone with women, who are 52% of the voting population"

There's lots of other candidates still out there while your empirical evidence is being gathered.

And by the way, WHO THE FUCK, IN PUBLIC OR OVER THE PHONE, IS GOING TO ADMIT THEY ARE VOTING FOR TRUMP?

Posted by: zzBottom at March 30, 2016 04:46 PM (8zvUY)

797 766
752: If you read transcripts of any of Trumps press conferences or town
halls or debates, he sounds, as has been said here before, like a
mental patient off his meds. There is little to no coherent train of
thought.

I quite agree. I read a story on a Lefty site that claimed that Trump had Dementia. It made me think, but I didn't take it too seriously because they were way out there. Now that being said, I can't get it out of my mind when thinking about Trump.

He has been saying the same thing about other countries for decades now, starting with Japan in the late 80s, right before the went into the lost decade ... err ... decades. they now have negative interest rates. They're not "stealing our lunch," their trying to build robots fast enough to be able to care for their geriatric population. As for his new bugbear, China, they are arresting business execs for cashing in their stocks. Those are not the actions of a successful country. One of the biggest things that we learned during the Cold War, was that communists lie, well about everything, but especially their economy. They can't keep propping it up much longer, and the longer they do, the bigger the crash. Perhaps he doesn't see it because his mind has problems processing new thoughts.

Add to this, as you said, his speech patterns. Other than "winning," "build a wall" and insults,he says very little. He pads his answers. He can't remember his supposed plans. I wonder if he's totally losing the ability to think. And no, I am not joking.

Posted by: calbadegr at March 30, 2016 04:47 PM (rKRC9)

798 588 I still support Trump. Yes he is a jerk, but he doesn't back down when challenged unlike McCain, Romney ect.

Well, there's a difference between not backing down because you are fighting for a principle you believe in and not backing down because you are too stupidly egotistical to ever admit you are wrong.

Tell me how Trump is different from JEF in that respect.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at March 30, 2016 04:47 PM (u0lmX)

799 No... no I wouldn't. Nor would I ever have

reason to because Cruz would have made sure his staff was not grabbing

women and then bullying and demeaning them on line instead of

apologizing.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 04:40 PM (3JA/M)

I
think you're lying still making an issue about it if it had happened to
Cruz but you are right that it wouldn't have happened to Cruz. He would
have sacrificed his employee and issued a grovelling apology at the
first hint of trouble.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 30, 2016 04:45 PM (flJ92)*

Let me try that again. I think you're lying about whether you would have made an issue of it if it happened to Cruz, but you are right that it wouldn't have
happened to Cruz. He would have sacrificed his employee and issued a
grovelling apology at the first hint of trouble.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 30, 2016 04:45 PM (flJ92)

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 30, 2016 04:48 PM (flJ92)

800 I just feel that this thread calls for a song parody:

Tim Hawkins -"This dog's on fire"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O5cGUs2OM4

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 30, 2016 04:53 PM (w4NZ8)

801 Say! What's inside this wooden horse the Democrats have so thoughtfully pushed through the gates of our fair city?

Posted by: turfmann at March 30, 2016 04:53 PM (5c5h1)

802 On his website Cruz says that Congress can end run Roe by enacting a law to declare a fetus to be a person. That's asking for trouble in the general. Sorry but true. It'll also get Cruz borked if he ever goes for SCOTUS.

I don't understand Trump here. Another unforced error. I thought he didn't care about abortion. He got through the Southern primaries fine and still split the Evangelical vote with Cruz, so I don't understand this.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 30, 2016 04:55 PM (r1fLd)

803 glad to see Ace now misquotes out of context items like all good MSM liberal reporters

Posted by: julescat at March 30, 2016 04:56 PM (cSpFH)

804 redbanzai, you rock!!!

Posted by: antisocialist at March 30, 2016 04:42 PM (9n14Y)

Thanks... I am just passing along the knowledge Christopher Taylor passed to me

Posted by: redbanzai at March 30, 2016 04:57 PM (3JA/M)

805 NEWS FLASH: Bleeding heart liberals attack politician for believing people should be punished for breaking the law.

Well, we are now jumping great white sharks when we try to denigrate the party's nomination leader by saying how bad it is that he would actually enforce a law if it was a law.

Then again, Trump seems to be the only one going all out on enforcing the law that requires a wall to be built.

Posted by: doug at March 30, 2016 04:57 PM (Y7fRE)

806 Say! What's inside this wooden horse the Democrats have so thoughtfully pushed through the gates of our fair city?

Posted by: turfmann at March 30, 2016 04:53 PM (5c5h1)

This is truly the dumbest argument going. He's been called a racist endlessly. His media career has been destroyed by that smear. Are you trying to tell us a man that you just called narcissistic is willing to sacrifice himself for the Democrat party? Here let me help you.

What is Narcissism?

A pattern of traits and behaviors which signify infatuation and
obsession with one's self to the exclusion of all others and the
egotistic and ruthless pursuit of one's gratification, dominance and
ambition.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 30, 2016 04:58 PM (flJ92)

807 >>>603 How does a candidate's views on policy enter into your decision ?
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at March 30, 2016 03:58 PM (Y5I9o)

I love America and have family that have served. I support conservative policies b/c they are best for America. But if the immigration issue isn't fixed *immediately* then the rest of conservatism does not matter b/c there won't be an America.

I'd rather live in an America with borders thats not that conservative than a borderless *America*in*name*only* libertarian paradise. I'd prefer most of all a conservative-libertarian America with borderers, but that hasn't been an option for decades.

Get the borders done FIRST, then we can try and turn back the internal liberalism. otherwise there won't be an America to fix.

That's why I support Trump despite his buffoonery and conservative blasphemes. It will take a mean as a junkyard dog extra stubborn asshole of the highest caliber to actually get immigration fixed - and that is Trump.

Posted by: RawDogRevolution at March 30, 2016 05:06 PM (ab2et)

808 I'm sorry I came to the blog late today, lots of good shit to ponder.

Part of the reason I was late is cus I've been arguing my contention that Trumpism is a caricature of a NYC liberals concept of conservatism but with no research. His every expressed "conviction" is exactly that. What a liberal thinks a conservative thinks, it's actually very funny once you realize it.

Posted by: Anthony Weiners Ghost at March 30, 2016 05:14 PM (N1ljp)

809 Ace is wrong. Again. Bitter too.

Posted by: nip at March 30, 2016 05:18 PM (r73Jl)

810 glad to see Ace now misquotes out of context items like all good MSM liberal reporters
Posted by: julescat at March 30, 2016 04:56 PM (cSpFH)

Fox is going insane over this. They just had Rev. Huckabee on, who started talking about how when he used to counsel women that had abortions, he said there were two victims, the baby and the woman who had been pressured to have an abortion.

Huckabee, the women you are counseling are there because they have remorse over what they did. It's why the sought counseling. Oh, and by the way, they had a legal abortion.

Trump was asked IF abortion were to become illegal, should women who obtain one anyhow suffer any punishment. Trump said yes, and now the entire country is going apeshit.

The entire news media is trying to destroy Trump, including Fox. They are willing to tell the most outrageous lies in order to make him look like he is some kind of hideous monster.

And most of that outrage is coming from the Republican Conservative side.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 30, 2016 05:20 PM (ph1j2)

811 I've been arguing my contention
that Trumpism is a caricature of a NYC liberals concept of conservatism
but with no research. His every expressed "conviction" is exactly that.
What a liberal thinks a conservative thinks, it's actually very funny
once you realize it.

Posted by: Anthony Weiners Ghost at March 30, 2016 05:14 PM (N1ljp)
That very well might be the case. Especially when you realize some basic facts that aren't widely talked about. The GOP is basically now a Southern party, with NE leadership. The GOP can't buy a vote in the NE, so Trump would have to appeal to the South. He very well may be attempting to portray what he believes is a Southern conservative. The fact that he's a billionaire from the NE ensures that it's going to be amazingly wrong, if not comical.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 30, 2016 05:22 PM (flJ92)

812 I hate to say this but it is becoming increasing clear that pandering to women all the time is why Western Civilization is no longer able to defend itself.

The Japanese military thought that was the case in WWII, but they acted too early. If they had only waited about seventy years for women voters to start making a major impact on the west they might have succeeded.

Yes I know it sounds sexist. Probably is, but the facts are facts.

1. Women voters like socialism more than men.
2. They like talking about problems instead of solving them.
3. They like running up huge bills on stupid stuff.
4. They like soft leaders who make them feel special with cool expensive free stuff.

How do you think they will vote? I guess we are finding out!

If only women voters started to act more like men, and stopped demanding men act like women we might save this civilization. More Thatcher and less Dunham. But they won't, so we will have years of chaos, bloodshed, and the world that will come out of all this will be a much worse place for women in general.

The sad part is scholars a hundred years from now will bash women's rights, and unjustly all of it (even the correct stuff like equal rights under the law). However it will be believable. Just look how long it took for people to consider some form of democracy again after the Ancient Athenian experience.

The ancient writers bashed the Athenian Democracy as the last way anyone would ever want to run a government again. Instead the Spartans, Hellenistic kings, and the Roman Republic/Empire were praised as ideal governments that should be copied.

Same thing will happen to women's rights, heck probably even the democratic process as a whole if we don't toughen up and fast. Those future scholars will look back with sadness and say what a wonderful place America and Europe was, and then it fell apart.

Why? They will write: This is what happens when you give women political power. The fate of your civilization was at stake threatened by invasion by women hating barbarians and the thing that concerned American women the most was "tone and abortions". It will take years to get women back to the 19th century standards of liberty after the "Great Meltdown" of the 21st Century.

Posted by: William Eaton at March 30, 2016 05:54 PM (q52Ma)

813 Also, I thought women were all jealous of other hot women.
I'm confused.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 30, 2016 04:34 PM (ZKlDy)

Stealing their hubby/BF is one way to act on that envy.

I didn't say that they were attracted to the Hot Wife. They find the guy with the Hot Wife more attractive than the same guy without the Hot Wife.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 05:58 PM (uURQL)

814 Trumpism: An asshole fist in a retard glove.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 30, 2016 06:03 PM (eHpnh)

815 Thanks for reporting valid news. Say, what size were his fingers when he made the statement and were any hazardous life-threatening pens, pens pens, pens, pens, pen, small fingers, pens small fingers, small fingers, small fingers, small fingers, small fingers, pens, pens, pens, pens, involved?

Posted by: bour3 at March 30, 2016 06:09 PM (5x3+2)

816 Not only do I think Trump has been winging it, but I sometimes think he realized some time ago he was in over his head--his protest candidacy was not supposed to be this successful--and he has actively been trying to sabotage himself, while still being able to maintain influence afterword.

In other words, the idiotic things are deliberately idiotic.

At other times, I just think he's doing dumb stuff.

Posted by: Horatius at March 30, 2016 06:12 PM (J3UIw)

817 "Punish the women" is now the unofficial campaign slogan for Trump in the general election.

Jesus Christ, look what the DNC was able to do with Romney's "Binders full of women". Hillary is going to crucify him.

Posted by: JT at March 30, 2016 07:03 PM (CZaQB)

818 Pro-life people are most certainly for punishing women who get abortions. It makes no sense to claim abortion is murder then not punish the murderer. If I hire somebody to kill someone else I will almost certainly be charged with premeditated murder, which is what most abortions are. Pro-lifers, like pro-choicers, want to give women a free writ of execution because they have a vagina. Unlike the intellectually consistent pro-choicers though, pro-lifers want to punish the executioner for someone else's sentence. Let's face it, the average pro-lifer is a pussy who are scared of being called sexist by liberals so they shy away from the obvious conclusion of their ideology to the point where they will turn on a man for pointing out the obvious. Serves Trump right for trying to use reasoning for once instead of just sticking to his usual rhetorical bombast.

Posted by: Johnny at March 30, 2016 10:55 PM (MZKpF)

819 818 Well, I guess you really don't know any Pro-Lifers then. Hint: Most of the leaders are women. And I doubt that Trump ever reasons. He's a whiny little beta cry-bully, who is so incapacitated by his alleged Klansman father's lack of regard for him, that he is just pure id. You know, you think of it, his grandfather made the family fortune as a whoremonger, the father got arrested at a Klan rally and then you have Tiny Hands. Talk about the sins of the fathers being visited upon the sons. The Trumps just get worse and worse.

Posted by: calbadger at March 31, 2016 12:18 AM (mab+2)

820 Right, I've been debating abortion against its proponents for over a degate shoulder to shoulder with countless pro-lifers but "I don't know any pro-lifers". I don't know any dumb emotion driven activits who don't understand why you can't call abortion murder then excuse the murderer as the "real" victim, of that I confess to being guilty. Thanks for explaining to me that the movement is apparently run by absolute morons who can't follow a 2 step argument, I've obviously been ignorant of the appaling level of thought in it, though that explains why it's gotten nowhere for 40 years.

Posted by: Johnny at March 31, 2016 02:27 AM (MZKpF)

821 You know those unicorns that those unicorn-lovers have told us for the last 40 years are going to just pop out of nowhere?

Well, TRUMP has COME RIGHT OUT AND SAID that he was going to EAT THE SKITTLES RIGHT OUT OF THE UNICORNS' ASSES!

Did he say that he hated Skittles, like the rest of us Democrat-level-smart people do? NO! NO NO NO!

In FACT, he pretty much denounced the ENTIRE CANDY INDUSTRY by saying he was going to EAT ASS SKITTLES instead of waiting for Mars or Hershey's or whoever to package those NASTY NASTY SKITTLES! Doesn't he know ANYTHING?!

He's just as stupid as those mouth-breathing NASCAR and WWE watching tea-baggers, instead of Democrat-smart-smart-smart like me and my friends!

I mean, we shilled for Mitt Romney back in 2012, just like the Democrats told us to do! Did we win, like the Democrats said we would? No. But that just shows how SMART SMART SMART we are! We are ALMOST liked by our Democrat friends!

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Trump: After National Defense, Health Care and Education are Two of the Federal Government's Most Important Functions
Oh, By The Way, Women Who Have Abortions Should Be "Punished" With a Legal Penalty