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Mid-Morning Open Thread [CBD}
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1st?
Posted by: Weasel at March 28, 2016 08:59 AM (6xtq3)
2
9 the the 99th?
Posted by: MarkY at March 28, 2016 09:00 AM (i022r)
3
9 to the 9th power to the 9th power.
Posted by: Ironwood at March 28, 2016 09:00 AM (WLOZI)
4
Marky what does "the the" mean?
Posted by: Ironwood at March 28, 2016 09:02 AM (WLOZI)
5
I was promised there would be no math.
Posted by: steevy at March 28, 2016 09:02 AM (B48dK)
6
Whoops. Read the article, me...
Posted by: MarkY at March 28, 2016 09:02 AM (i022r)
7
OK who gave Herman Cain access to the blog?
Posted by: cjw at March 28, 2016 09:02 AM (UJ59J)
Posted by: naturalfakea at March 28, 2016 09:03 AM (2rmvw)
Posted by: MarkY at March 28, 2016 09:03 AM (i022r)
10
That's my idea!
Posted by: Herman Cain at March 28, 2016 09:04 AM (VAsIq)
11
(FF)^F
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 28, 2016 09:04 AM (kvZfk)
12
Curse you steevy.
*looks around for cobs with banning hammer*
...uh....in the nicest way possible.
*looks around for cobs with banning hammer*
...uh....in the nicest way possible.
Posted by: naturalfakea at March 28, 2016 09:04 AM (2rmvw)
13
9 to the 99th power I can represent in three digits. Just not here on my dumb phone. It is 2.951266666 with the decimal moved over 94 places. So, lots.
Posted by: Igotnothing at March 28, 2016 09:06 AM (Se2s/)
14
512?
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 09:08 AM (kQ5yx)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 28, 2016 09:08 AM (2PZWx)
16
ggg--a giga gazillion google aka the national debt
Posted by: The Wolf Who Cried Boy at March 28, 2016 09:09 AM (Ndje9)
17
9,9, and 9.
What are the results of our Low Information President's first three holes on the Putt-Putt course?
What are the results of our Low Information President's first three holes on the Putt-Putt course?
Posted by: Furious George at March 28, 2016 09:09 AM (3GAnN)
Posted by: MarkY at March 28, 2016 09:09 AM (i022r)
19
My grandfather was a math phD and had been a principal before he was a college professor, my grandmother taught school for the children of shipworkers in Tacoma, my mom was a math teacher and taught every level from kindergarten to college, my father's first degree was teaching, I grew up in a college town and knew most of the teaching staff enough to know their kids and their names.
I hate what education has become.
I hate what education has become.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 28, 2016 09:09 AM (XQHkt)
20
Reminds me of Herman Cain. Now I'll have "Nine Nine Nine" in my head all day...
Posted by: Pipe Holder at March 28, 2016 09:10 AM (Z/diL)
21
9 to the 9th to the 9th is a whole lot less.
Posted by: Igotnothing at March 28, 2016 09:10 AM (Se2s/)
22
Three 8's laid on their side?
Posted by: krakatoa at March 28, 2016 09:11 AM (RCS9o)
23
Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin'.
Posted by: Billy Preston at March 28, 2016 09:11 AM (3GAnN)
24
What ever happened to no math on Ace?
Posted by: Diogenes at March 28, 2016 09:11 AM (r65B3)
25
We're not doing Common Core here.
Posted by: MarkY at March 28, 2016 09:09 AM (i022r)
________
512 is a big number. Give me some credit.
Posted by: MarkY at March 28, 2016 09:09 AM (i022r)
________
512 is a big number. Give me some credit.
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 09:11 AM (kQ5yx)
26
((9^9)^9)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 28, 2016 09:12 AM (wYnyS)
27
512 is a big number. Give me some credit.
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 09:11 AM (kQ5yx)
Here's your nice participation certificate, suitable for framing.
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 09:11 AM (kQ5yx)
Here's your nice participation certificate, suitable for framing.
Posted by: MarkY at March 28, 2016 09:12 AM (i022r)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 28, 2016 09:14 AM (wYnyS)
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So are these participation awards made on recycled paper and bio-degradable soy ink?
Oh wait, talking the Horde. Hobo-pelts and the tears of Socialists.
Oh wait, talking the Horde. Hobo-pelts and the tears of Socialists.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 28, 2016 09:15 AM (2PZWx)
30
Hey, where all the white women at?
Posted by: The Herminator at March 28, 2016 09:15 AM (kXzR8)
31
Now I know why the prohibition of math at AoS exists!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 28, 2016 09:15 AM (wYnyS)
32
That father is insufferable. It's obvious the question was regard to base 10 . Congratulate and praise your daughter for thinking out of the box but acknowledge the obvious.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 28, 2016 09:15 AM (Bc1aB)
33
Ask an incomplete question, get an unexpected answer - e.g. Trump 2016
Posted by: DaveA at March 28, 2016 09:17 AM (DL2i+)
34
Answer: Big numbers are racist, misogynist and homophobic. The white cis-gender patriarchy uses them to keep everybody else in line.
Posted by: Ripley at March 28, 2016 09:17 AM (1BQGO)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 09:17 AM (w4NZ8)
36
In regular digits, 9^9^9.
But if we're defining a digit as a single-character representation of a number, then the highest I can come up with is L^L^L where L is Avagadro's number.
But if we're defining a digit as a single-character representation of a number, then the highest I can come up with is L^L^L where L is Avagadro's number.
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 09:17 AM (kQ5yx)
37
I disqualify myself. Read this the other day on the... ONT, wasn't it? Or was it a Hat link?
Math on the blog?
Nein! Nein! Nein!
Math on the blog?
Nein! Nein! Nein!
Posted by: mindful webworker - raised to the power of love at March 28, 2016 09:18 AM (6hZFv)
38
What is the largest number you can represent with three digits?
Does "a shitload" count as a good number?
Does "a shitload" count as a good number?
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at March 28, 2016 09:18 AM (X+nFp)
39
Doesn't 999 represent the blog equivalent of an evil post?
Posted by: tbodie at March 28, 2016 09:18 AM (Rt8Uf)
Posted by: C. Moss at March 28, 2016 09:18 AM (HS6CF)
41
All wrong : 666 , the Beast of the Apocalypse . But still waiting for SMOD .
Posted by: jay hoenemeyer at March 28, 2016 09:18 AM (uvj0z)
42
What is the largest number you can represent with three digits?
Does "a shitload" count as a good number?
Metric shit ton
Does "a shitload" count as a good number?
Metric shit ton
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 09:19 AM (4Hf9E)
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36 In regular digits, 9^9^9.
But if we're defining a digit as a single-character representation of a number, then the highest I can come up with is L^L^L where L is Avagadro's number.
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 09:17 AM (kQ5yx)
Avocado's Number is green with envy.
But if we're defining a digit as a single-character representation of a number, then the highest I can come up with is L^L^L where L is Avagadro's number.
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 09:17 AM (kQ5yx)
Avocado's Number is green with envy.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 28, 2016 09:19 AM (p4UlV)
44
And FS beat me to it.
Posted by: tbodie at March 28, 2016 09:19 AM (Rt8Uf)
45
But I've been told that common core anger is about white parents not being told their kids are brilliant!
(Seriously though, this dude also went waaaay to far.)
(Seriously though, this dude also went waaaay to far.)
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 28, 2016 09:20 AM (tM4uk)
46
So the teacher was expecting 999 as the answer. I'm curious. What did the dumb kids write? I mean, how do you get that question wrong?
I was a math dummy in school, and even I wouldn't have put 312.
I was a math dummy in school, and even I wouldn't have put 312.
Posted by: RKae at March 28, 2016 09:20 AM (cLN0P)
47
I guess I'm SLOW kraken today. So may I ask the same question I posed at the dog-end of the dead thread below? To wit... ( God I've wanted to use that phrase for a week now) I've just watched "The Big Short". I would love to hear anyone's take on the movie, cause it raised more questions for me than it answered. Thanks.
Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2016 09:21 AM (sdxPm)
48
If we haven't been banned, should we have survivor guilt? Just a thought. Not much of one, I'll admit...
Must be time to feed the pets.
Must be time to feed the pets.
Posted by: mindful webworker - expressly at March 28, 2016 09:21 AM (6hZFv)
49
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 09:17 AM (kQ5yx)
How about infinity^infinity^infinity?
Which of course just equals infinity.
How about infinity^infinity^infinity?
Which of course just equals infinity.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 09:21 AM (Zu3d9)
50
Is everybody sleeping or was there a Purge over the weekend?
Seems so docile around here. Refreshing actually.
Seems so docile around here. Refreshing actually.
Posted by: IP at March 28, 2016 09:21 AM (aQQbl)
51
Avocado's Number is green with envy.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 28, 2016 09:19 AM (p4UlV)
I defer to Amishdude, but isn't it (infinity)^(infinity)^(infinity) (I can't make the sideways eight on my computer.)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 28, 2016 09:19 AM (p4UlV)
I defer to Amishdude, but isn't it (infinity)^(infinity)^(infinity) (I can't make the sideways eight on my computer.)
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 28, 2016 09:21 AM (tM4uk)
52
I'll see her 9^9^9 and raise a Beth-999. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beth_number. Her number may have 369,693,100 digits, but mine is the cardinality of the power-set operation performed on a set having the cardinality of the real numbers (i.e., an uncountably large set) 998 more times.
The moment you start allowing for operations or other non-digit features in the expression of "a number represented with three digits" you've blown open the question to one where the "right" answer depends on how much math both you and the person grading the question know and can agree on.
The proper response from the testing agency in this situation would probably have been throwing out the question entirely. It was a math test, not an English test. Any argument over whether you are "correct" is not an indication of ones skill at math -- at least not math at the grade level being tested.
The moment you start allowing for operations or other non-digit features in the expression of "a number represented with three digits" you've blown open the question to one where the "right" answer depends on how much math both you and the person grading the question know and can agree on.
The proper response from the testing agency in this situation would probably have been throwing out the question entirely. It was a math test, not an English test. Any argument over whether you are "correct" is not an indication of ones skill at math -- at least not math at the grade level being tested.
Posted by: Sayyid at March 28, 2016 09:22 AM (5y71V)
53
It doesn't take a degree in mathematics to figure out that the article is complete BS.
Posted by: xpo172 at March 28, 2016 09:22 AM (1PDwB)
54
Which of course just equals infinity.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 09:21 AM (Zu3d9)
But it's a discrete infinity from the previous infinities!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 09:21 AM (Zu3d9)
But it's a discrete infinity from the previous infinities!
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 28, 2016 09:22 AM (tM4uk)
55
Reminds me of the time I was reading my sons History lesson from his sixth grade class about the Korean War. They had a textbook that claimed that the Chinese never intervened in the Korean War. I brought this little issue up to his teachers and met solid resistance so I pulled him out of public school and he went to Catholic School for the remainder of the time we were assigned to Great lakes, IL. Worked out much better for him too.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 28, 2016 09:23 AM (iONHu)
56
This nun and relief worker is much smarter than President Obama
Whoever says ISIS has no connection to Islam is a liar ISIS is Islam and Islam is ISIS:
Whoever says ISIS has no connection to Islam is a liar ISIS is Islam and Islam is ISIS:
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 09:23 AM (w4NZ8)
57
2 comments,
1) Yes, for the wording of the question, 9^9^9 is the largest number represented by 3 digits. However, the father missed the chance to explain to his daughter that sometimes you have the answer the question they meant to ask. Also, how is this not setting his daughter up to be special SJW snowflake in college?
2) For the triangle example in the article, his daughter is wrong. For a high school geometry class, the definition of a triangle involves straight lines. Lines on a globe are curved... This being an example of being too clever by half.
And since we're on math stuffs,
From the EMT, the tank treads: Since the tank isn't sliding down the road, the tread in contact with the ground is traveling 0 mph. The tread on top (assuming parallel treads) is going 120 mph. This is all using the ground as the reference point. If you use the tank as the reference point, top tread is 60mph, bottom is negative 60mph, and the tank is 0mph.
1) Yes, for the wording of the question, 9^9^9 is the largest number represented by 3 digits. However, the father missed the chance to explain to his daughter that sometimes you have the answer the question they meant to ask. Also, how is this not setting his daughter up to be special SJW snowflake in college?
2) For the triangle example in the article, his daughter is wrong. For a high school geometry class, the definition of a triangle involves straight lines. Lines on a globe are curved... This being an example of being too clever by half.
And since we're on math stuffs,
From the EMT, the tank treads: Since the tank isn't sliding down the road, the tread in contact with the ground is traveling 0 mph. The tread on top (assuming parallel treads) is going 120 mph. This is all using the ground as the reference point. If you use the tank as the reference point, top tread is 60mph, bottom is negative 60mph, and the tank is 0mph.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 09:23 AM (Hw3b3)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 09:23 AM (w4NZ8)
59
How about infinity^infinity^infinity?
Which of course just equals infinity.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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But it's infinity in three different universes!
Which of course just equals infinity.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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But it's infinity in three different universes!
Posted by: RKae at March 28, 2016 09:23 AM (cLN0P)
60
All wrong : 666 , the Beast of the Apocalypse . But still waiting for SMOD .
Posted by: jay hoenemeyer at March 28, 2016 09:18 AM (uvj0z)
I always preferred 667, Neighbor of the Beast.
All wrong : 666 , the Beast of the Apocalypse . But still waiting for SMOD .
Posted by: jay hoenemeyer at March 28, 2016 09:18 AM (uvj0z)
I always preferred 667, Neighbor of the Beast.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 28, 2016 09:24 AM (/wVDI)
61
So ... if we are to allow operators since they weren't ruled out, then why only 1 operator (^)?
9!^9!^9! would be bigger, but I'm sure a lot of other operators could be thrown in to similarly increase the number.
9!^9!^9! would be bigger, but I'm sure a lot of other operators could be thrown in to similarly increase the number.
Posted by: KG at March 28, 2016 09:24 AM (bSogd)
62
I don't think infinity is a digit, CBD.
If you're using hex, then (F^F)^F.
If you allow scientific constants, then it would be Avogadro's number to its own power, to its own power. AFAIK that is the largest defined constant, 6.02 x 10^23.
If you're using hex, then (F^F)^F.
If you allow scientific constants, then it would be Avogadro's number to its own power, to its own power. AFAIK that is the largest defined constant, 6.02 x 10^23.
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at March 28, 2016 09:25 AM (Gosad)
Posted by: mindful webworker - geenyez at March 28, 2016 09:25 AM (6hZFv)
64
2) For the triangle example in the article, his daughter is wrong. For a high school geometry class, the definition of a triangle involves straight lines. Lines on a globe are curved... This being an example of being too clever by half.
What high school class did you take? Lobachevski and riemann were just part II of my class.
What high school class did you take? Lobachevski and riemann were just part II of my class.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 28, 2016 09:25 AM (tM4uk)
65
I think Sayyid @52 is a writer for Star Trek scripts.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 28, 2016 09:25 AM (r65B3)
66
Nein! Nein! Nein!
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 28, 2016 09:25 AM (9krrF)
67
61 So ... if we are to allow operators since they weren't ruled out, then why only 1 operator (^)?
9!^9!^9! would be bigger, but I'm sure a lot of other operators could be thrown in to similarly increase the number.
Posted by: KG at March 28, 2016 09:24 AM (bSogd)
I hadn't considered this, as well as the comment on the Beth number. Very good points.
Thinking outside the box is good, but sometimes, you're just showing off.
9!^9!^9! would be bigger, but I'm sure a lot of other operators could be thrown in to similarly increase the number.
Posted by: KG at March 28, 2016 09:24 AM (bSogd)
I hadn't considered this, as well as the comment on the Beth number. Very good points.
Thinking outside the box is good, but sometimes, you're just showing off.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 09:25 AM (Hw3b3)
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>>>>From the EMT, the tank treads: Since the tank isn't sliding down the
road, the tread in contact with the ground is traveling 0 mph. The
tread on top (assuming parallel treads) is going 120 mph. This is all
using the ground as the reference point. If you use the tank as the
reference point, top tread is 60mph, bottom is negative 60mph, and the
tank is 0mph.
.
.
.Yep, let's hear it for frame of reference baby!
road, the tread in contact with the ground is traveling 0 mph. The
tread on top (assuming parallel treads) is going 120 mph. This is all
using the ground as the reference point. If you use the tank as the
reference point, top tread is 60mph, bottom is negative 60mph, and the
tank is 0mph.
.
.
.Yep, let's hear it for frame of reference baby!
Posted by: Albert Einstein at March 28, 2016 09:25 AM (iONHu)
69
How about infinity^infinity^infinity?
Which of course just equals infinity.
What happens when you get on a spaceship and fly to the edge of the universe and then go one foot further?
Puff puff pass.
Which of course just equals infinity.
What happens when you get on a spaceship and fly to the edge of the universe and then go one foot further?
Puff puff pass.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 09:25 AM (4Hf9E)
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Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 09:17 AM (kQ5yx)
How about infinity^infinity^infinity?
Which of course just equals infinity.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 09:21 AM (Zu3d9)
Infinity, plus one.
*sticks out tongue*
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 09:17 AM (kQ5yx)
How about infinity^infinity^infinity?
Which of course just equals infinity.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 09:21 AM (Zu3d9)
Infinity, plus one.
*sticks out tongue*
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 28, 2016 09:26 AM (/wVDI)
71
But if we're defining a digit as a single-character representation of a number,
8^8^8 rotate 8 90 degrees to infinity and beyond.
8^8^8 rotate 8 90 degrees to infinity and beyond.
Posted by: DaveA at March 28, 2016 09:26 AM (DL2i+)
72
Not sure about the answer but I think thee may be a rhombus involved.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 28, 2016 09:26 AM (sl+zA)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 28, 2016 09:26 AM (VdICR)
74
Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2016 09:21 AM (sdxPm)
It goes back to the 1970s with the Community Reinvestment Act.
Banks knew they would get screwed on the mortgages that the government was going to force on them, and they agitated for relaxed rules in other areas to make up the shortfall.
In other words, The Law of Unintended Consequences.
It goes back to the 1970s with the Community Reinvestment Act.
Banks knew they would get screwed on the mortgages that the government was going to force on them, and they agitated for relaxed rules in other areas to make up the shortfall.
In other words, The Law of Unintended Consequences.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 09:26 AM (Zu3d9)
75
64 2) For the triangle example in the article, his daughter is wrong. For a high school geometry class, the definition of a triangle involves straight lines. Lines on a globe are curved... This being an example of being too clever by half.
What high school class did you take? Lobachevski and riemann were just part II of my class.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 28, 2016 09:25 AM (tM4uk)
Standard high school geometry. 2-D, Euclidean.
What high school class did you take? Lobachevski and riemann were just part II of my class.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 28, 2016 09:25 AM (tM4uk)
Standard high school geometry. 2-D, Euclidean.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 09:26 AM (Hw3b3)
76
So ... if we are to allow operators since they weren't ruled out, then why only 1 operator (^)?
9!^9!^9! would be bigger, but I'm sure a lot of other operators could be thrown in to similarly increase the number.
Allow Navy Seals.
9!^9!^9! would be bigger, but I'm sure a lot of other operators could be thrown in to similarly increase the number.
Allow Navy Seals.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 09:27 AM (4Hf9E)
77
I do number one standing up. See, I know math stuff.
Posted by: Hillary at March 28, 2016 09:27 AM (22uju)
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Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 09:25 AM (4Hf9E)
Thoroughly enjoying National Weed Appreciation Day, aren't we?
Thoroughly enjoying National Weed Appreciation Day, aren't we?
Posted by: creeper at March 28, 2016 09:27 AM (CL5j3)
79
I defer to Amishdude, but isn't it (infinity)^(infinity)^(infinity) (I can't make the sideways eight on my computer.)
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 28, 2016 09:21 AM (tM4uk)
________
I can!
8
>
8
>
8
*rotates laptop 90 degrees*
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 28, 2016 09:21 AM (tM4uk)
________
I can!
8
>
8
>
8
*rotates laptop 90 degrees*
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 09:27 AM (kQ5yx)
Posted by: DaveA at March 28, 2016 09:27 AM (DL2i+)
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9!^9!^9! would be bigger, but I'm sure a lot of other operators could be thrown in to similarly increase the number.
Posted by: KG
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No, once you put an exclamation in there, it's no longer a number; it's the title of a Broadway musical.
Posted by: KG
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No, once you put an exclamation in there, it's no longer a number; it's the title of a Broadway musical.
Posted by: RKae at March 28, 2016 09:27 AM (cLN0P)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 09:28 AM (4Hf9E)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 28, 2016 09:28 AM (P/aDH)
84
Standard high school geometry. 2-D, Euclidean.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 09:26 AM (Hw3b3)
True, I technically too standard high school geometry but my teacher deviated from the course work.
Nevertheless though, this is the ultimate flaw with the school system. It specifically excludes individuality.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 09:26 AM (Hw3b3)
True, I technically too standard high school geometry but my teacher deviated from the course work.
Nevertheless though, this is the ultimate flaw with the school system. It specifically excludes individuality.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 28, 2016 09:28 AM (tM4uk)
85
Math should be banned because averages are mean.
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 09:28 AM (kQ5yx)
86
OT, some, but jusr watched "The Big Short". Raised a lot more questions for me than answers. Would appreciate anyone's take on the movie.
Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2016 09:11 AM (sdxPm)
I haven't seen it but the events of the movie were built around this: (I think)
1) Federal gov't required banks to give house loans to people who couldn't afford them by law.
1a) This was due to leftist phone-baloney made up charge of "redlining" as racist refusal of loans. As reality bore out, they couldn't afford loans and math is a stone-cold bitch) Also, surprise! pre-presidential Obama was in the thick of this crap.
2)Banks and leading institutions were stuck with a metric shit ton of crap loans which were worthless, so-
2a) in order to cut their liabilities, they bundled these loans together and sold them as an unlovable investment because Fannie May/Freddy Mac guaranteed them through the gov't
3) lots of suckers bought these due to bubble inflation of worth plus it was unloseable, which was pure sucker bait
Sidenote: I have a good friend who managed funds who lost his job because he refused to buy these for the funds he managed when his boss ordered him to.
He knew they were built on nothing.
4) Bubble pops. Loans exposed as unrecoverable/worthless. Therefore, loan funds worthless. Crash!!!
5) However, if you sold short on these piles of crap at the right time- you could make billions.
Thus, "The Big Short".
Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2016 09:11 AM (sdxPm)
I haven't seen it but the events of the movie were built around this: (I think)
1) Federal gov't required banks to give house loans to people who couldn't afford them by law.
1a) This was due to leftist phone-baloney made up charge of "redlining" as racist refusal of loans. As reality bore out, they couldn't afford loans and math is a stone-cold bitch) Also, surprise! pre-presidential Obama was in the thick of this crap.
2)Banks and leading institutions were stuck with a metric shit ton of crap loans which were worthless, so-
2a) in order to cut their liabilities, they bundled these loans together and sold them as an unlovable investment because Fannie May/Freddy Mac guaranteed them through the gov't
3) lots of suckers bought these due to bubble inflation of worth plus it was unloseable, which was pure sucker bait
Sidenote: I have a good friend who managed funds who lost his job because he refused to buy these for the funds he managed when his boss ordered him to.
He knew they were built on nothing.
4) Bubble pops. Loans exposed as unrecoverable/worthless. Therefore, loan funds worthless. Crash!!!
5) However, if you sold short on these piles of crap at the right time- you could make billions.
Thus, "The Big Short".
Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2016 09:29 AM (2rmvw)
87
How about infinity^infinity^infinity?
Which of course just equals infinity.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
-------------------
I've been there.
Which of course just equals infinity.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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I've been there.
Posted by: Buzz Lightyear at March 28, 2016 09:29 AM (idmwx)
88
Math should be banned because averages are mean.
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 09:28 AM (kQ5yx)
*snort*
Math should be banned because averages are mean.
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 09:28 AM (kQ5yx)
*snort*
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 28, 2016 09:29 AM (/wVDI)
89
You know what AoSHQ is missing?
Baby Fox Pics...
http://tinyurl.com/z734hcg
Bing-Baby Fox Pics
and Marshmallow Sculptures
http://tinyurl.com/ho5ygvf
Baby Fox Pics...
http://tinyurl.com/z734hcg
Bing-Baby Fox Pics
and Marshmallow Sculptures
http://tinyurl.com/ho5ygvf
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 09:29 AM (g8Hfr)
90
The test answer is: Nine Hundred Ninety-Nine.
The actual answer is "9^9^9" Nine to the Ninth to the Ninth power.
=== BUT WAIT ===
The backstory is that a student, an elementary student, gave the right answer while the rest of the class gave the grade-appropriate answer of 'one less than a thousand'
Dad went bat-shit crazy and took the entire testing structure to court. He's in for, iirc, tens of thousands of dollars.
The test had no discernible real-world consequence. It was an elementary level chapter test.
---
But ... hey. On the one hand I admire the hell out of the guy for setting his hair on fire and doing this for his daughter.
On the other hand, if you have this kind of energy and resources ... jesus, guy. Use it differently. For the children. Specifically, his child.
_
The actual answer is "9^9^9" Nine to the Ninth to the Ninth power.
=== BUT WAIT ===
The backstory is that a student, an elementary student, gave the right answer while the rest of the class gave the grade-appropriate answer of 'one less than a thousand'
Dad went bat-shit crazy and took the entire testing structure to court. He's in for, iirc, tens of thousands of dollars.
The test had no discernible real-world consequence. It was an elementary level chapter test.
---
But ... hey. On the one hand I admire the hell out of the guy for setting his hair on fire and doing this for his daughter.
On the other hand, if you have this kind of energy and resources ... jesus, guy. Use it differently. For the children. Specifically, his child.
_
Posted by: BumperStickerist at March 28, 2016 09:29 AM (8Q1Gy)
91
The number would even be bigger in metric, testifying to the inherent superiority of the metric system and of Europeans in general.
Posted by: Lincoln Chaffee at March 28, 2016 09:29 AM (sl+zA)
92
CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 09:21 AM
Dang. Beat me to the infinity joke. At least I used the character, though.
Sayyid: The proper response from the testing agency in this situation would probably have been throwing out the question entirely.
That was my conclusion as well, rather than making a big fight out of it, admit the lack of clarity. But, no, that would be easy and sensible.
Oh, just remembered, I was going to feed the pets...
Dang. Beat me to the infinity joke. At least I used the character, though.
Sayyid: The proper response from the testing agency in this situation would probably have been throwing out the question entirely.
That was my conclusion as well, rather than making a big fight out of it, admit the lack of clarity. But, no, that would be easy and sensible.
Oh, just remembered, I was going to feed the pets...
Posted by: mindful webworker - oh, yeah at March 28, 2016 09:29 AM (6hZFv)
93
I have been doing some thinking about the Cruz Women scandal.
It appears that the Rubio Campaign was shopping the story around. The press and the consultants all run around in the same circles so it is possible every campaign knew the rumor. Rubio flared out before the rumor could get ignited. It is strange that the National Enquirer came out with a story alleging allegations. That may be explained by the feud erupting between Trump and Cruz with the Enquirer getting the story out then to back up Trump.
The possibility of this rumor igniting may be the hope that keeps Kasich in the race. If Cruz implodes from this then he has completed the feat of being the last anti-Trump standing and the one with the best claim to lead in any contested convention.
Weird? Convoluted? Conspiratorial? In this year it actually makes sense.
It appears that the Rubio Campaign was shopping the story around. The press and the consultants all run around in the same circles so it is possible every campaign knew the rumor. Rubio flared out before the rumor could get ignited. It is strange that the National Enquirer came out with a story alleging allegations. That may be explained by the feud erupting between Trump and Cruz with the Enquirer getting the story out then to back up Trump.
The possibility of this rumor igniting may be the hope that keeps Kasich in the race. If Cruz implodes from this then he has completed the feat of being the last anti-Trump standing and the one with the best claim to lead in any contested convention.
Weird? Convoluted? Conspiratorial? In this year it actually makes sense.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet's Prices Trump The Harangue Hut's! at March 28, 2016 09:30 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Diogenes at March 28, 2016 09:30 AM (r65B3)
95
How's this for math, that 3 pointer that ND Player hit at the end of the game cost me $500. I didn't like them Apples, No Sir!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2016 09:30 AM (mw8Dm)
96
86 Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2016 09:29 AM (2rmvw)
The Big Short left out a lot as you alluded to.
A better and more accurate title would have been "Moral Hazard" b/c Federal interference created a BUNCH of them.
The Big Short left out a lot as you alluded to.
A better and more accurate title would have been "Moral Hazard" b/c Federal interference created a BUNCH of them.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 09:30 AM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at March 28, 2016 09:30 AM (8Q1Gy)
98
From the EMT, the tank treads: Since the tank isn't sliding down the road, the tread in contact with the ground is traveling 0 mph. The tread on top (assuming parallel treads) is going 120 mph. This is all using the ground as the reference point. If you use the tank as the reference point, top tread is 60mph, bottom is negative 60mph, and the tank is 0mph.
Point of order, assumes tank is moving under its own power and not being transported by truck.
Point of order, assumes tank is moving under its own power and not being transported by truck.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 28, 2016 09:30 AM (9krrF)
99
Further, point of order.
The question assumes two things about the tank:
1. It's not an Israeli Tank
2. Ace is not appearing on Fox News at the time.
_
yes, kids, ace was on the tee-vee once in the Way Back.
The question assumes two things about the tank:
1. It's not an Israeli Tank
2. Ace is not appearing on Fox News at the time.
_
yes, kids, ace was on the tee-vee once in the Way Back.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at March 28, 2016 09:32 AM (8Q1Gy)
100
98 From the EMT, the tank treads: Since the tank isn't sliding down the road, the tread in contact with the ground is traveling 0 mph. The tread on top (assuming parallel treads) is going 120 mph. This is all using the ground as the reference point. If you use the tank as the reference point, top tread is 60mph, bottom is negative 60mph, and the tank is 0mph.
Point of order, assumes tank is moving under its own power and not being transported by truck.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 28, 2016 09:30 AM (9krrF)
I chortled.
Then I sighed.
Yes, the inherent assumption is that the tank is moving under it's own power.
Someone, my thermo prof is laughing at me.
Point of order, assumes tank is moving under its own power and not being transported by truck.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 28, 2016 09:30 AM (9krrF)
I chortled.
Then I sighed.
Yes, the inherent assumption is that the tank is moving under it's own power.
Someone, my thermo prof is laughing at me.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 09:32 AM (Hw3b3)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 09:33 AM (Zu3d9)
102
Seriously, it's really only been in our lifetimes that a tank going 60mph on the highway under its own power was even a thing...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 28, 2016 09:34 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 28, 2016 09:34 AM (2PZWx)
Posted by: Off the reservation at March 28, 2016 09:34 AM (YlqSL)
105
Highest number? uhhh...420?
Posted by: BignJames at March 28, 2016 09:35 AM (x9c8r)
106
Vis a vis Belgian protests
I know some neo Nazi football fans infiltrated the crowd, but it must be permitted for citizens to protest their government who has so utterly failed to protect them and actively put at risk. Belgium was not prepared for the terrorists, but used a water hose on their own people protesting the governement
I know some neo Nazi football fans infiltrated the crowd, but it must be permitted for citizens to protest their government who has so utterly failed to protect them and actively put at risk. Belgium was not prepared for the terrorists, but used a water hose on their own people protesting the governement
Posted by: ThunderB at March 28, 2016 09:35 AM (zOTsN)
107
I want the number 999 banned, because upside down it is 666, the Number of the Beast, and as a Satanist I find that disrespectful to my religion of peace!
I want the number 999 banned, because upside down it is 666, the Number of the Beast, and as a Satanist I find that disrespectful to my religion of peace!
Posted by: Crazed SJW at March 28, 2016 09:35 AM (KId5h)
108
What I got out of the article ...
... Smart Special Snowflakes are just as damn annoying as Stupid Special Snowflakes.
... Smart Special Snowflakes are just as damn annoying as Stupid Special Snowflakes.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2016 09:36 AM (W+w2W)
109
Dad went bat-shit crazy and took the entire testing structure to court.
He's in for, iirc, tens of thousands of dollars.
Well, THAT'S more than three digits.
He's in for, iirc, tens of thousands of dollars.
Well, THAT'S more than three digits.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 09:36 AM (4Hf9E)
110
"It is a number without finite limit, sensei."
Posted by: Parker at March 28, 2016 09:36 AM (RnmJV)
111
@80
"Which of course just equals infinity.
Not actually but it's been 30 years since I knew why."
The short (and relatively circular) reason for that is that exponentiation by an infinity yields a higher-order infinity. Again, check out the wiki for Beth numbers and/or Aleph numbers.
"Which of course just equals infinity.
Not actually but it's been 30 years since I knew why."
The short (and relatively circular) reason for that is that exponentiation by an infinity yields a higher-order infinity. Again, check out the wiki for Beth numbers and/or Aleph numbers.
Posted by: Sayyid at March 28, 2016 09:36 AM (5y71V)
112
[ROE are unchanged]
________
Is this part of the math question, or does it just mean we can't insult each other?
________
Is this part of the math question, or does it just mean we can't insult each other?
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 09:36 AM (kQ5yx)
113
Smart Special Snowflakes are just as damn annoying as Stupid Special Snowflakes.
Distinction without a (functional) difference.
Distinction without a (functional) difference.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 28, 2016 09:37 AM (9krrF)
114
Seriously, it's really only been in our lifetimes that a tank going 60mph on the highway under its own power was even a thing...
Now see? THIS is the kind of information that keeps bringing me back to this smart milblog.
Now see? THIS is the kind of information that keeps bringing me back to this smart milblog.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 28, 2016 09:37 AM (sl+zA)
115
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2016 09:36 AM (W+w2W)
I suggest *parents* of smart special snowflakes ... kid is probably not nearly as annoying as dad.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2016 09:36 AM (W+w2W)
I suggest *parents* of smart special snowflakes ... kid is probably not nearly as annoying as dad.
Posted by: Off the reservation at March 28, 2016 09:37 AM (YlqSL)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 28, 2016 09:38 AM (zOTsN)
117
Is this part of the math question, or does it just mean we can't insult each other?
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 09:36 AM (kQ5yx)
Yes.
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 09:36 AM (kQ5yx)
Yes.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 09:38 AM (Zu3d9)
118
The Archbishop of Vienna, Christoph Cardinal Schonborn, issued a statement claiming he could confirm that Islamic State jihadists crucified 56-year-old Father Tom Uzhunnalil, an Indian Catholic priest, on Good Friday.
From the MSM, and FOX for that matter: SILENCE
Breitbart
From the MSM, and FOX for that matter: SILENCE
Breitbart
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2016 09:38 AM (mw8Dm)
119
114 Seriously, it's really only been in our lifetimes that a tank going 60mph on the highway under its own power was even a thing...
Now see? THIS is the kind of information that keeps bringing me back to this smart milblog.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 28, 2016 09:37 AM (sl+zA)
I see the "smart military blog" thrown around a lot recently. Is that what AoSHQ was originally? I only started frequenting last summer...
Not that any of this matters, I'm just curious.
Now see? THIS is the kind of information that keeps bringing me back to this smart milblog.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 28, 2016 09:37 AM (sl+zA)
I see the "smart military blog" thrown around a lot recently. Is that what AoSHQ was originally? I only started frequenting last summer...
Not that any of this matters, I'm just curious.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 09:38 AM (Hw3b3)
120
86 Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2016 09:29 AM (2rmvw)
Your point 4 also speaks to why we are fucked as a nation.
In my more serious less cryptic moments I would hazard my underlying thesis can be summed as two points:
1) stupidity should be its own reward
and
2) there is nothing new under the sun
Your friend in item 4 is simply the modern victim of the Louis XIVth Rentes scam.
Louis XIVth was bankrupting France which was on paper a far wealthier empire than England, Turkey, and a peer arguably of Russia.
Economics does not like perpetual motion machines, *but* politicians adore them.
Your point 4 also speaks to why we are fucked as a nation.
In my more serious less cryptic moments I would hazard my underlying thesis can be summed as two points:
1) stupidity should be its own reward
and
2) there is nothing new under the sun
Your friend in item 4 is simply the modern victim of the Louis XIVth Rentes scam.
Louis XIVth was bankrupting France which was on paper a far wealthier empire than England, Turkey, and a peer arguably of Russia.
Economics does not like perpetual motion machines, *but* politicians adore them.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 09:38 AM (g8Hfr)
121
116 The answer to the math question is Mohammed
Duh
Posted by: ThunderB at March 28, 2016 09:38 AM (zOTsN)
Whether by breeding or the sword, that will be the answer in 40 years (or less!).
Duh
Posted by: ThunderB at March 28, 2016 09:38 AM (zOTsN)
Whether by breeding or the sword, that will be the answer in 40 years (or less!).
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 09:39 AM (Hw3b3)
122
2 arms - 1 arm = 1 arm
Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 28, 2016 09:39 AM (SOVQ8)
123
112 Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 09:36 AM (kQ5yx)
It means political sniping is meant to be reduced to passive-aggressive trolling in the sidebar.
It means political sniping is meant to be reduced to passive-aggressive trolling in the sidebar.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 09:39 AM (g8Hfr)
124
The correct answer, of course, according to Month Python, is: "Three Larch trees."
Posted by: Sharkman at March 28, 2016 09:39 AM (QWtgr)
125
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 09:38 AM (g8Hfr)
Louis had lots of help from the nobility.
That was one fvcked up country.
Louis had lots of help from the nobility.
That was one fvcked up country.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 09:40 AM (Zu3d9)
126
And for the record, the best tanks can only hit 60mph with the governor off, and it screws up the drivetrain. So yeah, that answer's going to be that the tread's moving at 60mph--same as everything else the truck's carrying...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 28, 2016 09:40 AM (9krrF)
127
Dad is a STEM sort of guy, a bit Aspie and suffers from perseveration, hence his unwillingness to let it go
Just a guess
Just a guess
Posted by: ThunderB at March 28, 2016 09:40 AM (zOTsN)
128
Weird? Convoluted? Conspiratorial? In this year it actually makes sense.
Pretty easy to see how a print mag could have deep connections to the son of the postman.
Pretty easy to see how a print mag could have deep connections to the son of the postman.
Posted by: The Herminator at March 28, 2016 09:40 AM (kXzR8)
129
I see the "smart military blog" thrown around a lot recently. Is that what AoSHQ was originally? I only started frequenting last summer...
Not that any of this matters, I'm just curious.
TIC. (Tongue in cheek)
Many hordelings are current or ex mil, therefore, when it comes to all things military, smart military blog.
Not that any of this matters, I'm just curious.
TIC. (Tongue in cheek)
Many hordelings are current or ex mil, therefore, when it comes to all things military, smart military blog.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 09:40 AM (4Hf9E)
130
>>From the MSM, and FOX for that matter: SILENCE
Fox has it on their website but they claim it is still unclear if he was killed or not.
Fox has it on their website but they claim it is still unclear if he was killed or not.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2016 09:40 AM (/tuJf)
131
Check your privilege , 9 boy.
Posted by: 8 at March 28, 2016 09:41 AM (gSQR4)
132
If we haven't been banned, should we have survivor guilt? Just a thought. Not much of one, I'll admit...
Must be time to feed the pets.
Posted by: mindful webworker - expressly at March 28, 2016 09:21 AM (6hZFv)
Well, the nice thing about survivors' guilt is at least you can feel it.
Must be time to feed the pets.
Posted by: mindful webworker - expressly at March 28, 2016 09:21 AM (6hZFv)
Well, the nice thing about survivors' guilt is at least you can feel it.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 28, 2016 09:41 AM (XQHkt)
133
Not actually but it's been 30 years since I knew why."
The short (and relatively circular) reason for that is that exponentiation by an infinity yields a higher-order infinity.
30 years of which 5 were full on Moron Lifestyle so ?Whut? more incompleteness examples.
The short (and relatively circular) reason for that is that exponentiation by an infinity yields a higher-order infinity.
30 years of which 5 were full on Moron Lifestyle so ?Whut? more incompleteness examples.
Posted by: DaveA at March 28, 2016 09:41 AM (DL2i+)
134
The French are very good at writing checks their account can't cover.
cf: Philip the Fair and the Templars.
cf: Philip the Fair and the Templars.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 28, 2016 09:41 AM (2PZWx)
135
103 Posted by: Anna Puma at March 28, 2016 09:34 AM (2PZWx)
Yup and Beijing Billy KNEW it was a bomb.
http://tinyurl.com/gqpq4nl
Ezra "Derp" Klein even knew this was the truth...
Donkey Party is big on "fairness before sense."
Yup and Beijing Billy KNEW it was a bomb.
http://tinyurl.com/gqpq4nl
Ezra "Derp" Klein even knew this was the truth...
Donkey Party is big on "fairness before sense."
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 09:41 AM (g8Hfr)
136
129 I see the "smart military blog" thrown around a lot recently. Is that what AoSHQ was originally? I only started frequenting last summer...
Not that any of this matters, I'm just curious.
TIC. (Tongue in cheek)
Many hordelings are current or ex mil, therefore, when it comes to all things military, smart military blog.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 09:40 AM (4Hf9E)
Much appreciated.
Not that any of this matters, I'm just curious.
TIC. (Tongue in cheek)
Many hordelings are current or ex mil, therefore, when it comes to all things military, smart military blog.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 09:40 AM (4Hf9E)
Much appreciated.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 09:41 AM (Hw3b3)
137
"1" is the loneliest number.
Posted by: Soona at March 28, 2016 09:41 AM (Fmupd)
138
I dunno' ... I've been in those classes ...
... distracting kids are pretty damn annoying. And I'll bet you this kid intuitively understood the norms of the question, and the intended answer.
But she just couldn't resist. Just like she had to show everyone in a discussion on flat triangles how she could picture them in 3D.
Look at me !!!
... distracting kids are pretty damn annoying. And I'll bet you this kid intuitively understood the norms of the question, and the intended answer.
But she just couldn't resist. Just like she had to show everyone in a discussion on flat triangles how she could picture them in 3D.
Look at me !!!
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 28, 2016 09:42 AM (W+w2W)
139
OT-My son went to the high school this morning for his trip. They are leaving at about 12:30 for the airport. W went over everything on the itinerary again last night and and, we prayed. This morning he said, "You forced me into this" even though he's said every time I asked him about the trip that he wanted to go. He had not been at the school for fifteen minutes before he said, "Where's my passport" even though I had showed him last night where we put it." Aaaaaaaaaagh!! When he finally gets off in the air I am going out for a drink. I love my son but this is one of those times I feel like strangling him. Dies anyone else have times like that? I guess so
God must give us kids to help develop our patience. I don't know how well I'm doing.
God must give us kids to help develop our patience. I don't know how well I'm doing.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 09:42 AM (w4NZ8)
140
keeps Kasich in the race.
-
Didja see that Dogbait called on Turnip and Ted to drop out and get behind his candidacy?
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Didja see that Dogbait called on Turnip and Ted to drop out and get behind his candidacy?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 28, 2016 09:43 AM (Nwg0u)
141
137 "1" is the loneliest number.
Posted by: Soona at March 28, 2016 09:41 AM (Fmupd)
2 is just as bad as 1. It's the loneliest number since the number 1.
Posted by: Soona at March 28, 2016 09:41 AM (Fmupd)
2 is just as bad as 1. It's the loneliest number since the number 1.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 09:43 AM (Hw3b3)
142
Kudos to the dad in the article.
One of the scariest things I ever did in education was to be a classroom assistant in a sixth-grade math class. I didn't want to diminish the teacher's authority in the classroom (hello, chaos!) but she said things that made me cringe. I just made sure the students I helped got a more accurate explanation.
Then at the community college where I've been teaching, we had a very popular instructor who would give worksheets with problems that did not use proper order of operations and just explain to the students what she meant. (No, she wasn't trying to give them a brain-teaser. And she was popular because she gave group tests and helped students get the right answers on them.) The frustrating thing was she was qualified to teach the college-level courses while I was restricted to the lower courses because I do not have a master's degree.
Oh, and the qualifications have been further tightened. Did you know it requires a master's degree to teach nursing students how to set up proportions or dimensional analysis? These are middle school math skills.
Arrrgh!
One of the scariest things I ever did in education was to be a classroom assistant in a sixth-grade math class. I didn't want to diminish the teacher's authority in the classroom (hello, chaos!) but she said things that made me cringe. I just made sure the students I helped got a more accurate explanation.
Then at the community college where I've been teaching, we had a very popular instructor who would give worksheets with problems that did not use proper order of operations and just explain to the students what she meant. (No, she wasn't trying to give them a brain-teaser. And she was popular because she gave group tests and helped students get the right answers on them.) The frustrating thing was she was qualified to teach the college-level courses while I was restricted to the lower courses because I do not have a master's degree.
Oh, and the qualifications have been further tightened. Did you know it requires a master's degree to teach nursing students how to set up proportions or dimensional analysis? These are middle school math skills.
Arrrgh!
Posted by: Emmie at March 28, 2016 09:43 AM (rRHdN)
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125 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 09:40 AM (Zu3d9)
Quite...a lot like *us.*
You have to love a royal family producing progeny so retarded that their response to losing Canada is "well we have lost just a few acres of snow."
Quite...a lot like *us.*
You have to love a royal family producing progeny so retarded that their response to losing Canada is "well we have lost just a few acres of snow."
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 09:43 AM (g8Hfr)
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Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 09:38 AM (Hw3b3)
Here you go!
http://tinyurl.com/zfdwch2
Here you go!
http://tinyurl.com/zfdwch2
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 09:43 AM (Zu3d9)
145
From the MSM, and FOX for that matter: SILENCE
Fox has it on their website but they claim it is still unclear if he was killed or not.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2016 09:40 AM (/tuJf)
They should be blasting it on TV. What is happening to Christians under Muslims Rule is nothing short of genocide. Maybe Horseface should be a tad less concerned about Trump and more concerned about THAT!
Fox has it on their website but they claim it is still unclear if he was killed or not.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2016 09:40 AM (/tuJf)
They should be blasting it on TV. What is happening to Christians under Muslims Rule is nothing short of genocide. Maybe Horseface should be a tad less concerned about Trump and more concerned about THAT!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2016 09:43 AM (mw8Dm)
146
I see the "smart military blog" thrown around a lot recently. Is that what AoSHQ was originally? I only started frequenting last summer...
Not that any of this matters, I'm just curious.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 09:38 AM (Hw3b3)
One of the oldest AoS memes. A review of the blog made that somewhat incorrect reference and it's stuck with Teh Horde ever since.
I see the "smart military blog" thrown around a lot recently. Is that what AoSHQ was originally? I only started frequenting last summer...
Not that any of this matters, I'm just curious.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 09:38 AM (Hw3b3)
One of the oldest AoS memes. A review of the blog made that somewhat incorrect reference and it's stuck with Teh Horde ever since.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 28, 2016 09:43 AM (/wVDI)
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I was at home when he called me to tell me that he couldn't find his passport.
Now I understand why they have the kids report to the hs 2.5 course before they are supposed to catch the bus to the airport
Now I understand why they have the kids report to the hs 2.5 course before they are supposed to catch the bus to the airport
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 09:43 AM (w4NZ8)
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Two can be as sad as one. It's the loneliest number since the number one.
Posted by: Three Dog Night at March 28, 2016 09:44 AM (sl+zA)
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Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 09:38 AM (g8Hfr)
Yeah, they went ahead and bought the funds.
And my friend was proven correct in a rather short period of time.
But, that was cold comfort, as his reward for being right was 2 years of funemployment.
Yeah, they went ahead and bought the funds.
And my friend was proven correct in a rather short period of time.
But, that was cold comfort, as his reward for being right was 2 years of funemployment.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2016 09:44 AM (2rmvw)
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Did AoS win some web award in the Military category? I thought that's where it started?
Posted by: IP at March 28, 2016 09:44 AM (aQQbl)
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God must give us kids to help develop our patience. I don't know how well I'm doing.
Required training for the keeper of the One Finger Death Punch.
I'm sure you're doing fine, you still put up with us!
Required training for the keeper of the One Finger Death Punch.
I'm sure you're doing fine, you still put up with us!Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 28, 2016 09:44 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 28, 2016 09:44 AM (2PZWx)
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I don't know how well I'm doing.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 09:42 AM (w4NZ
Sounds like you are doing fine.
Where is he heading? You mentioned it, but I have forgotten.....
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 09:42 AM (w4NZ
Sounds like you are doing fine.
Where is he heading? You mentioned it, but I have forgotten.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 09:44 AM (Zu3d9)
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course=before
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 09:45 AM (w4NZ8)
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144 Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 09:38 AM (Hw3b3)
Here you go!
http://tinyurl.com/zfdwch2
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 09:43 AM (Zu3d9)
Wow, it's official and everything!
Here you go!
http://tinyurl.com/zfdwch2
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 09:43 AM (Zu3d9)
Wow, it's official and everything!
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 09:45 AM (Hw3b3)
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146 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 28, 2016 09:43 AM (/wVDI)
Memes within memes.
Of course we *do* have a lot of mil and ex-mil posters and if it is really quiet and you listen really hard you can get a lot of military theory here...
in between the hobo skinning and boob jokes.
Memes within memes.
Of course we *do* have a lot of mil and ex-mil posters and if it is really quiet and you listen really hard you can get a lot of military theory here...
in between the hobo skinning and boob jokes.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 09:45 AM (g8Hfr)
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Many hordelings are current or ex mil, therefore, when it comes to all things military, smart military blog.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 09:40 AM (4Hf9E)
Well we used to be but those of us in the Military today are mostly experts on GMTs, sexual assault, and homsexuals and transexuals. It's a new Military.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 09:40 AM (4Hf9E)
Well we used to be but those of us in the Military today are mostly experts on GMTs, sexual assault, and homsexuals and transexuals. It's a new Military.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2016 09:45 AM (mw8Dm)
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BumperStickerist: The reflection of the 'nines' is wrong on the illustration.
Sinister, isn't it?
Sinister, isn't it?
Posted by: mindful webworker - oh, yeah at March 28, 2016 09:45 AM (6hZFv)
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Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 09:44 AM (Zu3d9)
Switzerland, France and Spain.
Switzerland, France and Spain.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 09:45 AM (w4NZ8)
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Did AoS win some web award in the Military category? I thought that's where it started?
It was actually more of a participation ribbon.
It was actually more of a participation ribbon.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 28, 2016 09:46 AM (sl+zA)
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My first thought of this question was that it was insufficiently well-defined to give an answer. You can use an arbitrarily large base - N number system to make that as large as you want.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 28, 2016 09:46 AM (KUaJL)
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148 Two can be as sad as one. It's the loneliest number since the number one.
Posted by: Three Dog Night at March 28, 2016 09:44 AM (sl+zA)
The word is sad? Wow, I feel like my whole life is a lie...
Posted by: Three Dog Night at March 28, 2016 09:44 AM (sl+zA)
The word is sad? Wow, I feel like my whole life is a lie...
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 09:46 AM (Hw3b3)
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(9!)^((9!)^9!)
Posted by: JeffM at March 28, 2016 09:46 AM (Qg8+H)
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see the "smart military blog" thrown around a lot recently. Is that what AoSHQ was originally?
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I've forgotten the details but at one point some other blog referred to AOSHQ as a smart military blog.
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I've forgotten the details but at one point some other blog referred to AOSHQ as a smart military blog.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 28, 2016 09:47 AM (Nwg0u)
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Well we used to be but those of us in the Military today are mostly experts on GMTs, sexual assault, and homsexuals and transexuals. It's a new Military.
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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And marching in bright red fuck-me pumps.
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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And marching in bright red fuck-me pumps.
Posted by: Chi at March 28, 2016 09:48 AM (idmwx)
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One is not a prime number
Pi is a ratio, not an actual number
'Quadratic' is from the Latin word meaning 'square' - not 'four', in case you ever wondered about that.
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One is not a prime number
Pi is a ratio, not an actual number
'Quadratic' is from the Latin word meaning 'square' - not 'four', in case you ever wondered about that.
_
Posted by: BumperStickerist at March 28, 2016 09:48 AM (8Q1Gy)
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149 Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2016 09:44 AM (2rmvw)
The sequel is being written as we type...
"Implosion 2-The Business Real Estate Bubble"
I was warning here that the housing market was paper on paper back in '04.
Fannie Mae and Ferddie Mac were in the "risk valuation laundering business" with regards to brokerage house's real estate portfolios.
The Donk's defense of Fan and Ferd was b/c their favorite sons and daughters were asses and elbows deep in the con.
The sequel is being written as we type...
"Implosion 2-The Business Real Estate Bubble"
I was warning here that the housing market was paper on paper back in '04.
Fannie Mae and Ferddie Mac were in the "risk valuation laundering business" with regards to brokerage house's real estate portfolios.
The Donk's defense of Fan and Ferd was b/c their favorite sons and daughters were asses and elbows deep in the con.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 09:48 AM (g8Hfr)
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It was actually more of a participation ribbon.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 28, 2016 09:46 AM (sl+zA)
I struggle to remember that far back. I knew it came from "outside"..
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 28, 2016 09:46 AM (sl+zA)
I struggle to remember that far back. I knew it came from "outside"..
Posted by: IP at March 28, 2016 09:48 AM (aQQbl)
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smart military blog arises from the perpetual refighting the War of Northern Aggression, discussing the Hot Gates, and in the ONT the constant debate on the JSF - is it a desert topping and a floor wax?
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 28, 2016 09:49 AM (2PZWx)
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I believe I have solved The Great Mystery: why has ACE been so damn cranky since last fall?
Last Fall: ACE goes really cranky
Last Fall: Giada de Laurentiis gets divorced and doesn't hookup with ACE
Coincidence? I think not...
I believe I have solved The Great Mystery: why has ACE been so damn cranky since last fall?
Last Fall: ACE goes really cranky
Last Fall: Giada de Laurentiis gets divorced and doesn't hookup with ACE
Coincidence? I think not...
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 28, 2016 09:49 AM (KId5h)
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Japan has conveyed its concern to Moscow over possible Russian plans to build a naval base on a western Pacific island chain, part of which are claimed by Tokyo, a top Japanese government spokesman said on Monday, the latest in a long-running territorial spat.
Tokyo's action follows Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu's comment last week that Russia would study the possibility of building a naval base on what it calls the Kurile islands. Besides the potential construction of a naval base, Japanese Defence Minister Shoigu also said last week that Russia would this year deploy some of its newest missile defence systems and drones on the Kurile islands.
Well when Fredo does zip, nothing, nada, Klum to stop the Chicoms from doing that, this is the kind of shit that happens. FOUR!
Tokyo's action follows Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu's comment last week that Russia would study the possibility of building a naval base on what it calls the Kurile islands. Besides the potential construction of a naval base, Japanese Defence Minister Shoigu also said last week that Russia would this year deploy some of its newest missile defence systems and drones on the Kurile islands.
Well when Fredo does zip, nothing, nada, Klum to stop the Chicoms from doing that, this is the kind of shit that happens. FOUR!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2016 09:49 AM (mw8Dm)
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IllTemperedCur, you doth insult me!
Hobos at dawn and bring the Val-U-Rite.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 28, 2016 09:44 AM (2PZWx)
Hamsters, elderberries. Some assembly required.
*farts in Anna's general direction*
IllTemperedCur, you doth insult me!
Hobos at dawn and bring the Val-U-Rite.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 28, 2016 09:44 AM (2PZWx)
Hamsters, elderberries. Some assembly required.
*farts in Anna's general direction*
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 28, 2016 09:50 AM (/wVDI)
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Thanks for the responses to "The Big Short". My question was purely out of self interest. I'm a fairly well-off ( read greedy uncaring bastard, I guess), that is currently considering buying a second place in a desirable getaway area. This in spite of Obama's and others scoldings about at some point have had enough, thus my heartless cruelty in spending my own money, which really isn't mine, I guess.
Anyway, being selfish, I was looking into current mortgage default rates and could not get straight answers from the internetz.
Anyway, being selfish, I was looking into current mortgage default rates and could not get straight answers from the internetz.
Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2016 09:50 AM (sdxPm)
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I'm sure you're doing fine, you still put up with us!
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 28, 2016 09:44 AM (9krrF)
I don't have to live with you guy.
I must confess to using the "f" word this morning as in "You're f'ing kidding me?" when he told me I forced him into it. I hope you will offer me absolution. :^) Maybe folks here have never used the f word with their kid. I shouldn't have done it, but it was a very long day yesterday.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 28, 2016 09:44 AM (9krrF)
I don't have to live with you guy.
I must confess to using the "f" word this morning as in "You're f'ing kidding me?" when he told me I forced him into it. I hope you will offer me absolution. :^) Maybe folks here have never used the f word with their kid. I shouldn't have done it, but it was a very long day yesterday.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 09:50 AM (w4NZ8)
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I will say that AoSHQ is THE place on the net to get the very latest on longbow tactics and technology.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 28, 2016 09:51 AM (sl+zA)
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>>God must give us kids to help develop our patience. I don't know how well I'm doing.
I've had those moments, too, Fenelon!
Sounds like you're handling it well. Bet your son will be happy he went despite the last minute moment of doubt.
I've had those moments, too, Fenelon!
Sounds like you're handling it well. Bet your son will be happy he went despite the last minute moment of doubt.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2016 09:51 AM (NOIQH)
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I see a giant rabbit in IllTemperedCur's future... or perhaps
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/selection-du-weekend-185-29.jpg
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/selection-du-weekend-185-29.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 28, 2016 09:51 AM (2PZWx)
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As long as this is a math thread:
Mark Levin endorsed Ted Cruz
and
Mark Levin = The Great One
and
Wayne Gretzky = The Great One
therefore
Mark Levin = Wayne Gretzky
so
Wayne Gretzky endorsed Ted Cruz.
Now ask yourself why a CANADIAN would endorse Ted Cruz.
Mark Levin endorsed Ted Cruz
and
Mark Levin = The Great One
and
Wayne Gretzky = The Great One
therefore
Mark Levin = Wayne Gretzky
so
Wayne Gretzky endorsed Ted Cruz.
Now ask yourself why a CANADIAN would endorse Ted Cruz.
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 09:52 AM (kQ5yx)
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FS, I had a whole school year revolving around my son and the phrase "You're f'ing kidding me?"
He turned out fine in the end.
He turned out fine in the end.
Posted by: IP at March 28, 2016 09:53 AM (aQQbl)
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173 Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2016 09:50 AM (sdxPm)
If it factors in at all I suspect upon retaking the house and/or Senate coupled with capturing the Emperorship for another Four(ty) years the democrats will nuke the home mortgage interest deduction completely on a second home in their next reign...
The Big Short also refused to explain that through Bundling the GSEs were hiding risk for lending institutions soidiots investors would keep shoveling money in.
If it factors in at all I suspect upon retaking the house and/or Senate coupled with capturing the Emperorship for another Four(ty) years the democrats will nuke the home mortgage interest deduction completely on a second home in their next reign...
The Big Short also refused to explain that through Bundling the GSEs were hiding risk for lending institutions so
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 09:53 AM (g8Hfr)
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FenelonSpoke: God must give us kids to help develop our patience.
Speaking as one who just spent Easter afternoon with my three allegedly-adult offspring...
I thought God gave us kids just so we parents could get a taste of what he has to put up with, raising us.
Speaking as one who just spent Easter afternoon with my three allegedly-adult offspring...
I thought God gave us kids just so we parents could get a taste of what he has to put up with, raising us.
Posted by: mindful webworker - still not a grandfather at March 28, 2016 09:53 AM (6hZFv)
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Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 09:45 AM (w4NZ
Nice....
It seems like a good time to go. It's not tourist season yet, so it won't be crowded everywhere they go.
Nice....
It seems like a good time to go. It's not tourist season yet, so it won't be crowded everywhere they go.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 09:54 AM (Zu3d9)
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so
Wayne Gretzky endorsed Ted Cruz.
I'm trying to find a flaw in your logic but it appears to be downright geometric. Now tell me who stole my strawberries, professor.
Wayne Gretzky endorsed Ted Cruz.
I'm trying to find a flaw in your logic but it appears to be downright geometric. Now tell me who stole my strawberries, professor.
Posted by: Capt. Queeg at March 28, 2016 09:54 AM (sl+zA)
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It starts with chess problems, then math teasers, and before you know it, you're decrypting stomach-churning yoga emails for the NSA.
Posted by: Fritz at March 28, 2016 09:54 AM (UzPAd)
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rotates laptop 90 degrees
Here's a neat trick, on a windows computer:
Control + Alt + Arrow Key will change your monitor's orientation.
I.E. Ctrl + Alt + Down will flip the screen 180degrees so it's upside down.
Here's a neat trick, on a windows computer:
Control + Alt + Arrow Key will change your monitor's orientation.
I.E. Ctrl + Alt + Down will flip the screen 180degrees so it's upside down.
Posted by: GMan at March 28, 2016 09:54 AM (sxq57)
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So Donald had an interview this AM with local talk radio host Charlie Sykes and apparently nobody on his staff had made the Donald aware that there isn't a conservative talk radio person here in Wisconsin that is pro-Trump.
Went about as well as anyone would have expected.
Went about as well as anyone would have expected.
Posted by: H Badger at March 28, 2016 09:54 AM (n/0Nw)
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This article reminds me of an anecdote from my own elementary school. I was taking a math test and there was a question that was something like "Johnny rides his bike for 30 min and he goes 3 miles, how fast is he going?" Elementary-age me noticed that 30 min was the same as half an hour, so if he rode 3 miles in 30 min, he'd ride 6 miles in an hour. 6 MPH. Of course, my teacher marked it wrong. The correct answer, according to my teacher was .1 miles/minute.
When I took this home, my father (an engineer) was furious, and spent over an hour on the phone trying to explain to the teacher (and later the principle) that not only was my answer also correct, but miles/hour is a more useful unit of measurement anyway, and I shouldn't be marked wrong just because I didn't solve the question the way they wanted me to.
As a kid, this whole thing is somewhere between embarrassing and terrifying. I never wanted to cause any sort of stir. When I think about it now, though, I'm incredibly thankful that my parents actually gave a darn about what I was being taught in school.
When I took this home, my father (an engineer) was furious, and spent over an hour on the phone trying to explain to the teacher (and later the principle) that not only was my answer also correct, but miles/hour is a more useful unit of measurement anyway, and I shouldn't be marked wrong just because I didn't solve the question the way they wanted me to.
As a kid, this whole thing is somewhere between embarrassing and terrifying. I never wanted to cause any sort of stir. When I think about it now, though, I'm incredibly thankful that my parents actually gave a darn about what I was being taught in school.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 28, 2016 09:55 AM (KUaJL)
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Crisis averted. Georgia governor vetos religiousi liberty law.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 28, 2016 09:55 AM (Nwg0u)
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184 It starts with chess problems, then math teasers, and before you know it, you're decrypting stomach-churning yoga emails for the NSA.
Posted by: Fritz at March 28, 2016 09:54 AM (UzPAd)
If it's what needs to be done, then once more into the breach.
Posted by: Fritz at March 28, 2016 09:54 AM (UzPAd)
If it's what needs to be done, then once more into the breach.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 09:55 AM (Hw3b3)
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Since we no longer get art posts, here's BlazingCatFur's latest set of lovely photographs.
http://bit.ly/21P7VNO
Don't you miss the comments about snipers, Waldo, and rapey complaints from feminists... every. single. time!?!
http://bit.ly/21P7VNO
Don't you miss the comments about snipers, Waldo, and rapey complaints from feminists... every. single. time!?!
Posted by: mindful webworker - but is it art? at March 28, 2016 09:56 AM (6hZFv)
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186 Posted by: H Badger at March 28, 2016 09:54 AM (n/0Nw)
I could give six f**ks if Cruz has screwed every woman in North America or Trump is the spawn of Satan...
I am in the "f**k Hillary" business since the GOP was smart enough as an electorate to tell Chgrispy Chreme and Yeb to go home...
I could give six f**ks if Cruz has screwed every woman in North America or Trump is the spawn of Satan...
I am in the "f**k Hillary" business since the GOP was smart enough as an electorate to tell Chgrispy Chreme and Yeb to go home...
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 09:56 AM (g8Hfr)
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Posted by: GMan at March 28, 2016 09:54 AM (sxq57)
Control+ Alt+ Arrow Key will turn my monitor ghey?
Control+ Alt+ Arrow Key will turn my monitor ghey?
Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2016 09:56 AM (sdxPm)
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It doesn't take a degree in mathematics to figure out that the article is complete BS.
Posted by: xpo172 at March 28, 2016 09:22 AM (1PDwB)
I would like to kindly disagree with you. It does not take an advanced degree in education to see that the school board, teaching staff, school administration and common core compliance regulators care more about the process than they do about education and teaching children; the father cares more about the education of his daughter than some dumb-ass "make the slow kids feel smart with an easy answer" regimen of testing that focuses on one size fits all.
anyone who has done teaching, even at the level of implementing a new database to unsuspecting users, or explaining "this is why you are not being paid overtime" knows you cannot give a stock answer and expect everyone to understand.
Your hidden genius does not go a-b-c. . . x,y,z. The slow kid in the back may just have deduced Futhark and is bored with your plebian latin characters. Or may have an insight (if you can get it out of that b@stard) that will show you how to teach others better.
But that requires investment.
This by the way was teaching dogma in the 60's and 70's
Posted by: xpo172 at March 28, 2016 09:22 AM (1PDwB)
I would like to kindly disagree with you. It does not take an advanced degree in education to see that the school board, teaching staff, school administration and common core compliance regulators care more about the process than they do about education and teaching children; the father cares more about the education of his daughter than some dumb-ass "make the slow kids feel smart with an easy answer" regimen of testing that focuses on one size fits all.
anyone who has done teaching, even at the level of implementing a new database to unsuspecting users, or explaining "this is why you are not being paid overtime" knows you cannot give a stock answer and expect everyone to understand.
Your hidden genius does not go a-b-c. . . x,y,z. The slow kid in the back may just have deduced Futhark and is bored with your plebian latin characters. Or may have an insight (if you can get it out of that b@stard) that will show you how to teach others better.
But that requires investment.
This by the way was teaching dogma in the 60's and 70's
Posted by: Kindltot at March 28, 2016 09:57 AM (XQHkt)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 09:57 AM (Zu3d9)
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Morning Fenelon. Survived Easter, I see.
Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2016 09:57 AM (sdxPm)
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Speaking of kids, the show Little Big Shots is pretty funny . Steve Harvey is very likable.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 28, 2016 09:57 AM (Bc1aB)
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188 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 28, 2016 09:55 AM (Nwg0u)
and see kids THAT is why it is vital to have a Republican governor...
of course very similar to South Carolina there's a story behind the Governor's "Republican" bonafides.
and see kids THAT is why it is vital to have a Republican governor...
of course very similar to South Carolina there's a story behind the Governor's "Republican" bonafides.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 09:57 AM (g8Hfr)
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...I am in the "f**k Hillary" business since the GOP was smart enough as an electorate to tell Chgrispy Chreme and Yeb to go home...
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 09:56 AM (g8Hfr)
I am on record as saying I will literally vote for a syphilitic camel over Hillary.
And, I literally know what "literally" means.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 09:56 AM (g8Hfr)
I am on record as saying I will literally vote for a syphilitic camel over Hillary.
And, I literally know what "literally" means.
Posted by: Parker at March 28, 2016 09:58 AM (RnmJV)
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Didnt the leftys and teachers all bitch and moan about No Child Left Behind? But they have no problems with common core. LOL
Didnt the leftys and teachers all bitch and moan about No Child Left Behind? But they have no problems with common core. LOL
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 28, 2016 09:58 AM (iQIUe)
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Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2016 09:51 AM (NOIQH)
I hope so. "Fun" is not a word I would normally use about my son's response to things. He's quite serious although he finds things to laugh at on the internet./ On the other hand, today he said to me, "There's some Indian kid who's on the track team with me who said a funny thing about his academic progress and his dad, "Well, at least there's one Indian dad who's happy today." He said, "Do you think that's funny?" Yes, i said, but it's sort of sad too. Some other Indian kid said his dad was upset because he was in 10th grade and found pre-calculus rather a challenge. Wow!
I hope so. "Fun" is not a word I would normally use about my son's response to things. He's quite serious although he finds things to laugh at on the internet./ On the other hand, today he said to me, "There's some Indian kid who's on the track team with me who said a funny thing about his academic progress and his dad, "Well, at least there's one Indian dad who's happy today." He said, "Do you think that's funny?" Yes, i said, but it's sort of sad too. Some other Indian kid said his dad was upset because he was in 10th grade and found pre-calculus rather a challenge. Wow!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 09:58 AM (w4NZ8)
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Control+ Alt+ Arrow Key will turn my monitor ghey?
It'll be Faaaabulous
Seriously though, not that kind of orientation.
It'll be Faaaabulous
Seriously though, not that kind of orientation.
Posted by: GMan at March 28, 2016 09:58 AM (sxq57)
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Control+ Alt+ Arrow Key will turn my monitor ghey?
Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2016 09:56 AM (sdxPm)
Oh, my. Why did I not know this?
Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2016 09:56 AM (sdxPm)
Oh, my. Why did I not know this?
Posted by: Kindltot at March 28, 2016 09:58 AM (XQHkt)
Posted by: @votermom at March 28, 2016 10:00 AM (nbrY/)
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What does Ctrl+Alt+Swirly do?
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 28, 2016 10:00 AM (2PZWx)
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FS, I had a whole school year revolving around my son and the phrase "You're f'ing kidding me?"
He turned out fine in the end.
Pffftt. I CAUSED my parents to say that. For more than just one year.
He turned out fine in the end.
Pffftt. I CAUSED my parents to say that. For more than just one year.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 10:00 AM (4Hf9E)
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'I am on record as saying I will literally vote for a syphilitic camel over Hillary.'
Make sure you get the right camel... HilDog shows every sign of tertiary (neuro) syphilis...
'I am on record as saying I will literally vote for a syphilitic camel over Hillary.'
Make sure you get the right camel... HilDog shows every sign of tertiary (neuro) syphilis...
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 28, 2016 10:00 AM (KId5h)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 10:00 AM (4Hf9E)
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203 Posted by: @votermom at March 28, 2016 10:00 AM (nbrY/)
Man all the cool kids here have blogs their very own...
me I still blog in crayon.
Man all the cool kids here have blogs their very own...
me I still blog in crayon.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 10:00 AM (g8Hfr)
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202 Control+ Alt+ Arrow Key will turn my monitor ghey?
Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2016 09:56 AM (sdxPm)
Oh, my. Why did I not know this?
Posted by: Kindltot at March 28, 2016 09:58 AM (XQHkt)
Admit it, that "oh my" is supposed to be read in George Takei's voice.
Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2016 09:56 AM (sdxPm)
Oh, my. Why did I not know this?
Posted by: Kindltot at March 28, 2016 09:58 AM (XQHkt)
Admit it, that "oh my" is supposed to be read in George Takei's voice.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 10:00 AM (Hw3b3)
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Ace, cobs: New monicker for TFG?, Tango Fourputt Golf?
Posted by: Herger_The_Joyous at March 28, 2016 10:02 AM (vF9bi)
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Admit it, that "oh my" is supposed to be read in George Takei's voice.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 10:00 AM (Hw3b3)
That's how I always read it...
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 10:00 AM (Hw3b3)
That's how I always read it...
Posted by: IP at March 28, 2016 10:02 AM (aQQbl)
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Admit it, that "oh my" is supposed to be read in George Takei's voice.
Dangit, now I can stop reading that comment that way.
Dangit, now I can stop reading that comment that way.
Posted by: GMan at March 28, 2016 10:02 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 10:02 AM (4Hf9E)
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Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 09:38 AM (Hw3b3)
After 9-11 any anti-jihadi blog was assumed by the MFM to be military related so when Ace won an award the blog was described as a "Smart military blog" even though none (I think) of the original writers had ever served.
Now there are active duty cobs and many active or former military along with a number of spouses or parents of those serving, so the name is probably more accurate now than when given.
After 9-11 any anti-jihadi blog was assumed by the MFM to be military related so when Ace won an award the blog was described as a "Smart military blog" even though none (I think) of the original writers had ever served.
Now there are active duty cobs and many active or former military along with a number of spouses or parents of those serving, so the name is probably more accurate now than when given.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 28, 2016 10:02 AM (GDulk)
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Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2016 09:57 AM (sdxPm)
Thanks; Holy week was very nice and I found out that my boss has a new pastoral assignment he wants me to do-only temporarily but it sounds promising. So, I am thankful to God. I will be happy once the kids arrive in Switzerland, though.
However, I haven't got a call from FenelonSpouse
who went over to help our son find his passport (Did I mention FS is generally more even tempered than I am? ;^) so I'm guessing that they found the passport.
Thanks; Holy week was very nice and I found out that my boss has a new pastoral assignment he wants me to do-only temporarily but it sounds promising. So, I am thankful to God. I will be happy once the kids arrive in Switzerland, though.
However, I haven't got a call from FenelonSpouse
who went over to help our son find his passport (Did I mention FS is generally more even tempered than I am? ;^) so I'm guessing that they found the passport.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 10:02 AM (w4NZ8)
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err, *can't*
Posted by: GMan at March 28, 2016 10:03 AM (sxq57)
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At least you blog in crayon, Joey Bidet ... well nevermind.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 28, 2016 10:03 AM (2PZWx)
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GMan: ...on a windows computer: Control + Alt + Arrow Key will change your monitor's orientation.
GREAT GOOGLY MOOGLIES! I thought sure you were kidding. Has that been lurking in Windows all along?
I l'arned sumpin' today!
GREAT GOOGLY MOOGLIES! I thought sure you were kidding. Has that been lurking in Windows all along?
I l'arned sumpin' today!
Posted by: mindful webworker - but why? at March 28, 2016 10:03 AM (6hZFv)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 28, 2016 10:03 AM (1ijHg)
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Admit it, that "oh my" is supposed to be read in George Takei's voice
And I know it was an ad for something but damned if I remember what it was..
So, is that good marketing or bad?
And I know it was an ad for something but damned if I remember what it was..
So, is that good marketing or bad?
Posted by: IP at March 28, 2016 10:03 AM (aQQbl)
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FS, I had a whole school year revolving around my son and the phrase "You're f'ing kidding me?"
He turned out fine in the end.
LOL; Thank you.
He turned out fine in the end.
LOL; Thank you.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 10:03 AM (w4NZ8)
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210 Posted by: Herger_The_Joyous at March 28, 2016 10:02 AM (vF9bi)
There's a slew of 'em...
I think I coined "Ogabenomics" back at Tepid...
rather than focusing on what divides us we'd be better served on focusing on what enrages us- the fact that borderline traitors who are as retarded as monkeys f**king footballs on econ and foreign policy get to run roughshod over us b/c they dominate the media and civil service.
There's a slew of 'em...
I think I coined "Ogabenomics" back at Tepid...
rather than focusing on what divides us we'd be better served on focusing on what enrages us- the fact that borderline traitors who are as retarded as monkeys f**king footballs on econ and foreign policy get to run roughshod over us b/c they dominate the media and civil service.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 10:04 AM (g8Hfr)
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Thanks; Holy week was very nice and I found out that my boss has a new pastoral assignment he wants me to do-only temporarily but it sounds promising.
Your boss, or the Boss?
Your boss, or the Boss?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 10:04 AM (4Hf9E)
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Walking Dead post on my blog
Link in nic
Posted by: @votermom at March 28, 2016 10:00 AM (nbrY/)
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I literally gasped out loud at the ending.
Link in nic
Posted by: @votermom at March 28, 2016 10:00 AM (nbrY/)
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I literally gasped out loud at the ending.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:04 AM (8XRCm)
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Today parked at the Mukilteo airport by the Boeing plant is a B-25 painted with British Air Force colors and sporting D-Day invasion stripes.
Awesome.
Awesome.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 28, 2016 10:04 AM (knN6T)
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GREAT GOOGLY MOOGLIES! I thought sure you were kidding. Has that been lurking in Windows all along?
I l'arned sumpin' today!
I think so.
I learned about it when I got a call from my father in law, who left my 14 month old son alone with his laptop. He came back to it with the screen upside down and wanted to know how to fix it.
lol
I l'arned sumpin' today!
I think so.
I learned about it when I got a call from my father in law, who left my 14 month old son alone with his laptop. He came back to it with the screen upside down and wanted to know how to fix it.
lol
Posted by: GMan at March 28, 2016 10:05 AM (sxq57)
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Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 10:02 AM (w4NZ
Well safe travels to both of them. Not too late to put in your order for chocolates ya know. And maybe one of those goofy clocks that pop out a nest robbing raptor bird.
Well safe travels to both of them. Not too late to put in your order for chocolates ya know. And maybe one of those goofy clocks that pop out a nest robbing raptor bird.
Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2016 10:05 AM (sdxPm)
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:05 AM (8XRCm)
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Obviously, the Mathematicians had to be called in because the Educators were incompetent to resolve the issue.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 28, 2016 10:06 AM (1ijHg)
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219 Which is bigger?
(9^9)^9 or
9^(9^9)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 28, 2016 10:03 AM (1ijHg)
Without consulting Excel,
I believe it's the lower one.
(9^9)^9 or
9^(9^9)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 28, 2016 10:03 AM (1ijHg)
Without consulting Excel,
I believe it's the lower one.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 10:06 AM (Hw3b3)
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214 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 28, 2016 10:02 AM (GDulk)
Yup, the "smart military" was in the commentariat....
of course Ace and even LGF being "Anti-Jihadi" was b/c the left had not yet laid the battlespace prep that "showers are more dangerous" was a valid talking point.
The left was caught with their pants down WRT multi-culti enabled terror....
"never again" Hate America is now taught from grade school on.
Yup, the "smart military" was in the commentariat....
of course Ace and even LGF being "Anti-Jihadi" was b/c the left had not yet laid the battlespace prep that "showers are more dangerous" was a valid talking point.
The left was caught with their pants down WRT multi-culti enabled terror....
"never again" Hate America is now taught from grade school on.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 10:07 AM (g8Hfr)
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I literally gasped out loud at the ending.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:04 AM (8XRCm)
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There was a concerted "Noooo!!!" over here at our house.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:04 AM (8XRCm)
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There was a concerted "Noooo!!!" over here at our house.
Posted by: @votermom at March 28, 2016 10:07 AM (nbrY/)
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Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 09:57 AM (Zu3d9)
When does it end? ;^)
One of my friends was sometimes complaining about her son through college. She said he was once better once he finished.
When does it end? ;^)
One of my friends was sometimes complaining about her son through college. She said he was once better once he finished.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 10:07 AM (w4NZ8)
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220 Admit it, that "oh my" is supposed to be read in George Takei's voice
And I know it was an ad for something but damned if I remember what it was..
So, is that good marketing or bad?
Posted by: IP at March 28, 2016 10:03 AM (aQQbl)
For marketing, the answer is yes.
And I know it was an ad for something but damned if I remember what it was..
So, is that good marketing or bad?
Posted by: IP at March 28, 2016 10:03 AM (aQQbl)
For marketing, the answer is yes.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 10:07 AM (Hw3b3)
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Posted by: IP at March 28, 2016 10:03 AM (aQQbl)
It's good. It's Reverse Mortgage marketing good.
Posted by: IP at March 28, 2016 10:03 AM (aQQbl)
It's good. It's Reverse Mortgage marketing good.
Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2016 10:07 AM (sdxPm)
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RE this question: I had a similar issue with son1's first grade teacher. She told the class that you can't subtract big numbers from littler numbers which caused him to pipe up with "yes you can... you just get a negative answer. I didn't get involved until he brought home an exercise paper where the class was supposed to make up their own subtraction problems. Son1 had made up 10 perfectly correct problems that had negative number answers which the teacher had marked wrong. I got that corrected.
The next I heard about son1 and math was at parent teacher conference about a month later when the teacher told me that son1 was getting sick and going to the school clinic every single day at math time and, if that continued, "eventually he would miss something he doesn't already know". That raised my eyebrow for several reasons. First, why was my son sitting in a class where even the teacher acknowledged that son1 was getting nothing of value and second, why had the clinic never called me if he was sick every day straight for over a month.
So when I got home, I talked to son1. "No, mom. I never once said I was sick because I wasn't. I just said I needed to go to the clinic because math is boring and the Mrs. firstgradeteacher is wrong all the time but she gets mad when I tell her. Mrs. nurse is cool though and she will play chess with me."
I could not argue with that logic although that was the beginning of the end for son1 at that school. A lot of educational tests later, and in the face of the schools insistence that son1 had to do the same lessons as his yearmates, I moved him to public schools where at least they would leave him alone to do his own thing as long as he wasn't disruptive.
The next I heard about son1 and math was at parent teacher conference about a month later when the teacher told me that son1 was getting sick and going to the school clinic every single day at math time and, if that continued, "eventually he would miss something he doesn't already know". That raised my eyebrow for several reasons. First, why was my son sitting in a class where even the teacher acknowledged that son1 was getting nothing of value and second, why had the clinic never called me if he was sick every day straight for over a month.
So when I got home, I talked to son1. "No, mom. I never once said I was sick because I wasn't. I just said I needed to go to the clinic because math is boring and the Mrs. firstgradeteacher is wrong all the time but she gets mad when I tell her. Mrs. nurse is cool though and she will play chess with me."
I could not argue with that logic although that was the beginning of the end for son1 at that school. A lot of educational tests later, and in the face of the schools insistence that son1 had to do the same lessons as his yearmates, I moved him to public schools where at least they would leave him alone to do his own thing as long as he wasn't disruptive.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 10:08 AM (NPofj)
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Three 8s laid on their side?
I saw Infinity Cubed open for Jefferson Starship. I was too far gone to remember when and where.
I saw Infinity Cubed open for Jefferson Starship. I was too far gone to remember when and where.
Posted by: andycanuck at March 28, 2016 10:08 AM (ioqGj)
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Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 10:04 AM (4Hf9E)
:^) My offsite boss-the human on although I expect the BIG boss has a hand in it too..
:^) My offsite boss-the human on although I expect the BIG boss has a hand in it too..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 10:08 AM (w4NZ8)
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This kind of BS was going on long before Common Curse. I got a "B" on a paper I wrote about the American Revolution in fifth grade. The teacher's reasoning? I used the phrase "American Revolution;" as there was only one revolution my use of the word "American" was redundant and thus I only merited a "B." My argument noting the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, and the Industrial Revolution was met with alternating blank stares and the phrase, "Oh, well those are different."
Years later she was affirmative-actioned into place as the High School principal, where she discovered where she really stood on the liberal victimology scale and met the end of her career at the hands of the SJW mob. Seems she told some students who had decided they were lesbians that week that God was going to send them to hell.
Years later she was affirmative-actioned into place as the High School principal, where she discovered where she really stood on the liberal victimology scale and met the end of her career at the hands of the SJW mob. Seems she told some students who had decided they were lesbians that week that God was going to send them to hell.
Posted by: Country Singer at March 28, 2016 10:08 AM (GUBah)
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I am considering making some Kentucky style black bbq sauce today, perhaps for either pulled pork or sausages. What say ye?
I am considering making some Kentucky style black bbq sauce today, perhaps for either pulled pork or sausages. What say ye?
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 28, 2016 10:09 AM (KId5h)
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In college we had a DEC PDP-9 which grouped the binary into Octal.
One of the grad students was driving along when his odometer hit "77777"
He told his friend, "Look! It's going to turn over!"
One of the grad students was driving along when his odometer hit "77777"
He told his friend, "Look! It's going to turn over!"
Posted by: AE at March 28, 2016 10:09 AM (sSKe8)
Posted by: @votermom at March 28, 2016 10:10 AM (nbrY/)
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239 Posted by: Country Singer at March 28, 2016 10:08 AM (GUBah)
as Qui-Gon Jin said "there's always a bigger fish"...
you have to figure a lot of white liberals are gonna be in for a shock in a quarter century.
as Qui-Gon Jin said "there's always a bigger fish"...
you have to figure a lot of white liberals are gonna be in for a shock in a quarter century.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 10:10 AM (g8Hfr)
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I think it's wonderful that this guy took this all the way in forcing the school to admit their common core stuff is a load of nonsense (thereby marking every other kid's test wrong). Imagine if he had caved and forced that girl to accept that her correct answer was incorrect.
She should wait until she's at least 18 before finding out the world sucks and sometimes when you are right, you're still wrong. Like every other day at your job.
She should wait until she's at least 18 before finding out the world sucks and sometimes when you are right, you're still wrong. Like every other day at your job.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 28, 2016 10:10 AM (2PHKP)
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Man all the cool kids here have blogs their very own...
me I still blog in crayon.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 10:00 AM (g8Hfr)
And some Morons totally don't have a blog.
Man all the cool kids here have blogs their very own...
me I still blog in crayon.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 10:00 AM (g8Hfr)
And some Morons totally don't have a blog.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 28, 2016 10:11 AM (/wVDI)
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I saw Infinity Cubed open for Jefferson Starship. I was too far gone to remember when and where.
I'll bet it went on and on and on and on and on......
I'll bet it went on and on and on and on and on......
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 10:11 AM (4Hf9E)
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Moral of the story: If you know damned well the kid has a point because the question was worded badly, give them credit (or throw out the question for everyone), then go after the idiots who wrote and/or approved the question and make *their* lives hell.
Posted by: M Scott Eiland at March 28, 2016 10:11 AM (qQNVJ)
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 10:12 AM (g8Hfr)
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Girls, that's all I really want is girls.
Two at a time I want girls,
With new wave hairdos I want girls.
#BeastieBoys
What's a new wave hair do?
Girls, that's all I really want is girls.
Two at a time I want girls,
With new wave hairdos I want girls.
#BeastieBoys
What's a new wave hair do?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 28, 2016 10:12 AM (iQIUe)
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Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2016 10:05 AM (sdxPm)
He said he was going to get chocolate. Whether he comes home with any I don't know. I think a cuckoo clock is a cool thing, Years ago my sister had one from therewould probably bump up the weight of his suitcase and I am not paying the exorbitant rate for excess weight in the baggage
He said he was going to get chocolate. Whether he comes home with any I don't know. I think a cuckoo clock is a cool thing, Years ago my sister had one from therewould probably bump up the weight of his suitcase and I am not paying the exorbitant rate for excess weight in the baggage
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 10:12 AM (w4NZ8)
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Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 10:10 AM (g8Hfr)
Bet these Progressives have never read much on the French Revolution, Sven. You think they could connect the dots?
Bet these Progressives have never read much on the French Revolution, Sven. You think they could connect the dots?
Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2016 10:12 AM (sdxPm)
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I saw Infinity Cubed open for Jefferson Starship. I was too far gone to remember when and where.
I'll bet it went on and on and on and on and on......
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 10:11 AM (4Hf9E)
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That concert was *all that*....
I'll bet it went on and on and on and on and on......
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 10:11 AM (4Hf9E)
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That concert was *all that*....
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:12 AM (8XRCm)
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9^9^9 is not an answer. The only correct answer (assuming she tried to write 999 in superscript) would take up far more paper than she had on her to write out.
In order to answer the question correctly she would have had to write out what 9^9^9 actually is.
In order to answer the question correctly she would have had to write out what 9^9^9 actually is.
Posted by: doug at March 28, 2016 10:12 AM (Y7fRE)
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I was fine with math until I got to "imaginary numbers."
Are you f'ing kidding me?! You gotta make things up to make this work!?!
It just didn't seem rational to me.
Are you f'ing kidding me?! You gotta make things up to make this work!?!
It just didn't seem rational to me.
Posted by: Giveitup at March 28, 2016 10:12 AM (E6RIJ)
Posted by: IP at March 28, 2016 10:13 AM (aQQbl)
Posted by: GMan at March 28, 2016 10:13 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 28, 2016 10:14 AM (1ijHg)
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Heh. The grackles discovered my tomcat.
Posted by: Soona at March 28, 2016 10:14 AM (Fmupd)
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251 Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2016 10:12 AM (sdxPm)
Quite, which is ironic giving the US left since Tommy Jefferson has been jerking off to the Fwench Revolution...
Remember *we* are the stupid people who do not love science sexually...
Quite, which is ironic giving the US left since Tommy Jefferson has been jerking off to the Fwench Revolution...
Remember *we* are the stupid people who do not love science sexually...
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 10:14 AM (g8Hfr)
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Votermom, I think TWD writers are just toying with us this season (Glenn's dead! Glenn's alive!). I only caught the last 10 min of the episode, and while I'm barely watching the show now, if they kill Daryl I'm out.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2016 10:14 AM (NOIQH)
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244 I think it's wonderful that this guy took this all the way in forcing the school to admit their common core stuff is a load of nonsense (thereby marking every other kid's test wrong). Imagine if he had caved and forced that girl to accept that her correct answer was incorrect.
She should wait until she's at least 18 before finding out the world sucks and sometimes when you are right, you're still wrong. Like every other day at your job.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 28, 2016 10:10 AM (2PHKP)
Yeah, my parents taught me early on, "life's not fair", "suck it up, and move on", and "sometimes, you just have to play the (stupid) game".
She should wait until she's at least 18 before finding out the world sucks and sometimes when you are right, you're still wrong. Like every other day at your job.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 28, 2016 10:10 AM (2PHKP)
Yeah, my parents taught me early on, "life's not fair", "suck it up, and move on", and "sometimes, you just have to play the (stupid) game".
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 28, 2016 10:14 AM (Hw3b3)
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Wow
Rove still butt hurt over Cruz
I can think of no better endorsement than to have Rove hate you
Rove still butt hurt over Cruz
I can think of no better endorsement than to have Rove hate you
Posted by: ThunderB at March 28, 2016 10:15 AM (zOTsN)
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I hate stuff like this where they don't say if you can use symbols as well as digits. if you can it is probably 9.E99 (a 9 with 99 zeros afterwards)
Or the ones I see on FB all the time with 1 + 1 * 0 yada yada. I hate trying to remember order of operations for stuff like that. When I did math problems in school and now when I program I throw parenthesis around things to make it obvious even if the order of operations would work out w/o them.
Or the ones I see on FB all the time with 1 + 1 * 0 yada yada. I hate trying to remember order of operations for stuff like that. When I did math problems in school and now when I program I throw parenthesis around things to make it obvious even if the order of operations would work out w/o them.
Posted by: PaleRider at March 28, 2016 10:15 AM (3kUGE)
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Man all the cool kids here have blogs their very own...
me I still blog in crayon.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 10:00 AM (g8Hfr)
Yep, I'm cool kid now.
*laughs hysterically*
me I still blog in crayon.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 10:00 AM (g8Hfr)
Yep, I'm cool kid now.
*laughs hysterically*
Posted by: @votermom at March 28, 2016 10:15 AM (nbrY/)
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It just didn't seem rational to me.
It sounds like you have an irrational dislike of i.
Posted by: GMan at March 28, 2016 10:13 AM
Yeah. Just didn't seem real to me.
It just didn't seem rational to me.
It sounds like you have an irrational dislike of i.
Posted by: GMan at March 28, 2016 10:13 AM
Yeah. Just didn't seem real to me.
Posted by: Giveitup at March 28, 2016 10:16 AM (E6RIJ)
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Washington Post 2007
The very smart military blog, Ace of Spades HQ, speculated yesterday that Tony Snow might have been launching a trial balloon...
The very smart military blog, Ace of Spades HQ, speculated yesterday that Tony Snow might have been launching a trial balloon...
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 28, 2016 10:16 AM (VdICR)
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264 Posted by: @votermom at March 28, 2016 10:15 AM (nbrY/)
cooler than me anyway, VM....
nice blog BTW...
"we're all in this together"
cooler than me anyway, VM....
nice blog BTW...
"we're all in this together"
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 10:16 AM (g8Hfr)
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Imaginary numbers
Never round you down
When all the others square you away
Theyre around
Its my private pleasure
Midnight fantasy
Someone to share my
Negative squares with me
Imaginary numbers... youre mine.... anytime
Imaginary numbers oh yeah
Never round you down
When all the others square you away
Theyre around
Its my private pleasure
Midnight fantasy
Someone to share my
Negative squares with me
Imaginary numbers... youre mine.... anytime
Imaginary numbers oh yeah
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:16 AM (8XRCm)
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Windows ctrl-alt-arrow
Texted my son, did you know this? He said he found out a year ago when someone at work went around pranking folks' computers.
Mentioned that it depends on your graphics card, and doesn't work on his current work desktop.
Wonder if it will work on my old XP desktop.
Texted my son, did you know this? He said he found out a year ago when someone at work went around pranking folks' computers.
Mentioned that it depends on your graphics card, and doesn't work on his current work desktop.
Wonder if it will work on my old XP desktop.
Posted by: mindful webworker - disoriented at March 28, 2016 10:16 AM (6hZFv)
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What's a new wave hair do?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 28, 2016 10:12 AM (iQIUe)
___________________________________
That's the look after being beaten into a coma at a Trump rally....
What's a new wave hair do?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 28, 2016 10:12 AM (iQIUe)
___________________________________
That's the look after being beaten into a coma at a Trump rally....
Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 28, 2016 10:16 AM (HSmrB)
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Yeah, my parents taught me early on, "life's not fair", "suck it up, and move on", and "sometimes, you just have to play the (stupid) game".
Love the meme floating around Fb. A guy is looking at the camera and says something like "Hey kids! Life hasn't even begun to fvck you yet!"
Love the meme floating around Fb. A guy is looking at the camera and says something like "Hey kids! Life hasn't even begun to fvck you yet!"
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 10:17 AM (4Hf9E)
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270 Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 28, 2016 10:16 AM (HSmrB)
admit it you're typing with your toes aren't you ma'am?
admit it you're typing with your toes aren't you ma'am?
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 10:18 AM (g8Hfr)
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The question was perfectly clear. Sounds like the kid should become a lawyer so she can reinterpret laws to mean something that was never intended.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 28, 2016 10:18 AM (Bc1aB)
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Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2016 10:14 AM (NOIQH)
They will probably end the finale with another cliff hanger!
Cruel writers.
But I agree that Daryl can't die.
They will probably end the finale with another cliff hanger!
Cruel writers.
But I agree that Daryl can't die.
Posted by: @votermom at March 28, 2016 10:18 AM (nbrY/)
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Crisis averted. Georgia governor vetos religiousi liberty law.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 28, 2016 09:55 AM (Nwg0u)
So sackless Gov bows to the Gaystapo. I hope the voters remember this.
Crisis averted. Georgia governor vetos religiousi liberty law.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 28, 2016 09:55 AM (Nwg0u)
So sackless Gov bows to the Gaystapo. I hope the voters remember this.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2016 10:19 AM (vvmPQ)
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Yeah, my parents taught me early on, "life's not fair", "suck it up, and move on", and "sometimes, you just have to play the (stupid) game".
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One of my Dad's favorite sayings.
"Fair?? You want fair??? "Fair" is a pig show in August. And you aint got any hogs.
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One of my Dad's favorite sayings.
"Fair?? You want fair??? "Fair" is a pig show in August. And you aint got any hogs.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:19 AM (8XRCm)
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Slightly related, since discussion on bright kids, would recommend the German film "Vitus" about a child prodigy. Very sweet and unexpected. Also, it's better to watch it not knowing the major plot twist).
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2016 10:20 AM (NOIQH)
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275 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 28, 2016 10:19 AM (vvmPQ)
He's a democrat in republican clothing.
Switched back in '94
He's a democrat in republican clothing.
Switched back in '94
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 10:20 AM (g8Hfr)
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admit it you're typing with your toes aren't you ma'am?
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 10:18 AM (g8Hfr)
_______________________________
I've got one of those Steven Hawkings set-ups....
admit it you're typing with your toes aren't you ma'am?
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 10:18 AM (g8Hfr)
_______________________________
I've got one of those Steven Hawkings set-ups....
Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 28, 2016 10:21 AM (HSmrB)
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He said he found out a year ago when someone at work went around pranking folks' computers.
I'm definitely going to do this today.
I'm definitely going to do this today.
Posted by: Beefy Meatball at March 28, 2016 10:22 AM (yn6XZ)
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Ctl Alt Arrow.
Now Ive got this big 6 6 6 at the top of the blog.
Satanic coincidence???? I think NOT.
Ctl Alt Arrow.
Now Ive got this big 6 6 6 at the top of the blog.
Satanic coincidence???? I think NOT.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:22 AM (8XRCm)
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Can't we use the factorial sign? How about (9^9^9)!
Posted by: Darles Chickens at March 28, 2016 10:22 AM (rkIFo)
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Apparently this guy is some sort of Bitcoin scammer.
Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2016 10:22 AM (4h3+M)
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correction GA Guc formally switched back in 1995....
so he would stay in the Majority....
that said he's as "Republican" as South Carolina's GOP all-stars from the period.
so he would stay in the Majority....
that said he's as "Republican" as South Carolina's GOP all-stars from the period.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 10:22 AM (g8Hfr)
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Without gettin into this particular problem I will say that the Common Core "standards" have made a giant clusterfvck of math education. The questions are incomprehensibly worded and lacking in necessary information to provide the answer. It drives me nuts and leaves my kid in tears.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 28, 2016 10:22 AM (0mRoj)
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Fen Spoke,
My son is a baseball fanatic. One year for spring break we planned the whole thing so he could follow his favorite team. A dream for him
He said he didn't want to go. We ignored it. He loved it. It was just his anxiety speaking
My son is a baseball fanatic. One year for spring break we planned the whole thing so he could follow his favorite team. A dream for him
He said he didn't want to go. We ignored it. He loved it. It was just his anxiety speaking
Posted by: ThunderB at March 28, 2016 10:23 AM (zOTsN)
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By, the way, yeah, the dad was disruptive. But Common Core needs to DIAF. Maybe if the curriculum causes more trouble than it's worth .....
Posted by: Emmie at March 28, 2016 10:24 AM (rRHdN)
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Uggg...... I think I accidentally swallowed some Easter Egg colorant.
I feel like I dyed a little inside.
Uggg...... I think I accidentally swallowed some Easter Egg colorant.
I feel like I dyed a little inside.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:25 AM (8XRCm)
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Dad went bat-shit crazy and took the entire testing structure to court. He's in for, iirc, tens of thousands of dollars.
The test had no discernible real-world consequence. It was an elementary level chapter test.
^^^^
And this is why I call BS on this story. The man claims he took this to court- which ain't exactly cheap- and yet his math genius daughter was sitting in regular old public school? Bull. Shit. If you've got the money to do this and your kid is that fricking smart, put her in a school for children at her level.
Also, I will point out that at the end of the piece, daddy dearest brags about his daughter being in college now, yet at the beginning insinutates this mess is attributable to Common Core. Unless daughter skipped most of the rest of her schooling (which seems to be refuted by his later example of the geometry question that he says happened years later) then she did not do her schooling under Common Core, as that shit has only been implemented for a few years (in our local district it's been two years).
I'm by no means a CC apologist (I home school my two kids and avoid all CC aligned materials like the plague), but this story is bullshit.
The test had no discernible real-world consequence. It was an elementary level chapter test.
^^^^
And this is why I call BS on this story. The man claims he took this to court- which ain't exactly cheap- and yet his math genius daughter was sitting in regular old public school? Bull. Shit. If you've got the money to do this and your kid is that fricking smart, put her in a school for children at her level.
Also, I will point out that at the end of the piece, daddy dearest brags about his daughter being in college now, yet at the beginning insinutates this mess is attributable to Common Core. Unless daughter skipped most of the rest of her schooling (which seems to be refuted by his later example of the geometry question that he says happened years later) then she did not do her schooling under Common Core, as that shit has only been implemented for a few years (in our local district it's been two years).
I'm by no means a CC apologist (I home school my two kids and avoid all CC aligned materials like the plague), but this story is bullshit.
Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 28, 2016 10:25 AM (KkVB6)
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Bet these Progressives have never read much on the French Revolution, Sven. You think they could connect the dots?
Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2016 10:12 AM (sdxPm)
I always enjoyed considering the minor leftist fetish for the Paris Commune of 1871. Especially the part where Marshal MacMahon shot them all in the face with cannon because the commies were arguing amongst themselves and wouldn't pull together into a single, coherent force.
Bet these Progressives have never read much on the French Revolution, Sven. You think they could connect the dots?
Posted by: kraken at March 28, 2016 10:12 AM (sdxPm)
I always enjoyed considering the minor leftist fetish for the Paris Commune of 1871. Especially the part where Marshal MacMahon shot them all in the face with cannon because the commies were arguing amongst themselves and wouldn't pull together into a single, coherent force.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 28, 2016 10:26 AM (/wVDI)
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That father is insufferable. It's obvious the question was regard to
base 10 . Congratulate and praise your daughter for thinking out of the
box but acknowledge the obvious.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 28, 2016 09:15 AM (Bc1aB)
Joe normally we agree but I've got to disagree on this one and relate it back to a trend in modern culture and lawfare.
This father just wanted official acknowledgement that his daughter was right and for her correct answer not to be treated as incorrect. The powers that be should not have the power to redefine truth or reality... not when it comes to biology and certainly not when it comes to math.
That father is insufferable. It's obvious the question was regard to
base 10 . Congratulate and praise your daughter for thinking out of the
box but acknowledge the obvious.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 28, 2016 09:15 AM (Bc1aB)
Joe normally we agree but I've got to disagree on this one and relate it back to a trend in modern culture and lawfare.
This father just wanted official acknowledgement that his daughter was right and for her correct answer not to be treated as incorrect. The powers that be should not have the power to redefine truth or reality... not when it comes to biology and certainly not when it comes to math.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 10:27 AM (NPofj)
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FFF.... Hexidecimal....
Posted by: Don Quixote at March 28, 2016 10:27 AM (qf6WZ)
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That shadow under the 999 is effed up.
Posted by: Dang at March 28, 2016 10:27 AM (2oWD2)
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... son1 had to do the same lessons as his yearmates ...
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 10:08 AM (NPofj)
________
Sometimes, a child really needs to go along with everybody else and do what they do.
For example, someone decided that March 14 should commemorate the constant pi by eating pie. That's all well and good as a Tysonesque way to popularize STEM, but that Greek letter is pronounced "pee."
You see where this is going?
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 10:08 AM (NPofj)
________
Sometimes, a child really needs to go along with everybody else and do what they do.
For example, someone decided that March 14 should commemorate the constant pi by eating pie. That's all well and good as a Tysonesque way to popularize STEM, but that Greek letter is pronounced "pee."
You see where this is going?
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 10:28 AM (kQ5yx)
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Without gettin into this particular problem I will say that the Common Core "standards" have made a giant clusterfvck of math education. The questions are incomprehensibly worded and lacking in necessary information to provide the answer. It drives me nuts and leaves my kid in tears.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 28, 2016 10:22 AM (0mRoj)
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That's exactly what it was design to do. It teaches them helplessness.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 28, 2016 10:22 AM (0mRoj)
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That's exactly what it was design to do. It teaches them helplessness.
Posted by: Soona at March 28, 2016 10:28 AM (Fmupd)
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And this is why I call BS on this story. The man
claims he took this to court- which ain't exactly cheap- and yet his
math genius daughter was sitting in regular old public school? Bull.
Shit. If you've got the money to do this and your kid is that fricking
smart, put her in a school for children at her level.
Also, I will point out that at the end of the piece, daddy dearest
brags about his daughter being in college now, yet at the beginning
insinutates this mess is attributable to Common Core. Unless daughter
skipped most of the rest of her schooling (which seems to be refuted by
his later example of the geometry question that he says happened years
later) then she did not do her schooling under Common Core, as that shit
has only been implemented for a few years (in our local district it's
been two years).
I'm by no means a CC apologist (I home school my two kids and avoid
all CC aligned materials like the plague), but this story is bullshit.
Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 28, 2016 10:25 AM (KkVB6)
He didn't claim he took it to court... he claimed he took it through the proper administrative process for challenging the nationalized test questions.
claims he took this to court- which ain't exactly cheap- and yet his
math genius daughter was sitting in regular old public school? Bull.
Shit. If you've got the money to do this and your kid is that fricking
smart, put her in a school for children at her level.
Also, I will point out that at the end of the piece, daddy dearest
brags about his daughter being in college now, yet at the beginning
insinutates this mess is attributable to Common Core. Unless daughter
skipped most of the rest of her schooling (which seems to be refuted by
his later example of the geometry question that he says happened years
later) then she did not do her schooling under Common Core, as that shit
has only been implemented for a few years (in our local district it's
been two years).
I'm by no means a CC apologist (I home school my two kids and avoid
all CC aligned materials like the plague), but this story is bullshit.
Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 28, 2016 10:25 AM (KkVB6)
He didn't claim he took it to court... he claimed he took it through the proper administrative process for challenging the nationalized test questions.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 10:29 AM (NPofj)
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The test had no discernible real-world consequence. It was an elementary level chapter test.
^^^^
And this is why I call BS on this story.
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What. Youve never met a actual engineer.???
MY.WORST.CLIENTS
Always have this psychological Napoleonic complex where they have to prove to everyone they are the smartest human in any room. Never mind the fact they have no practical experience in dywall, tile or painting, THEY can do it better.
**hands over tile nippers
"Here show me".
That shut him up..... for a day.
^^^^
And this is why I call BS on this story.
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What. Youve never met a actual engineer.???
MY.WORST.CLIENTS
Always have this psychological Napoleonic complex where they have to prove to everyone they are the smartest human in any room. Never mind the fact they have no practical experience in dywall, tile or painting, THEY can do it better.
**hands over tile nippers
"Here show me".
That shut him up..... for a day.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:29 AM (8XRCm)
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The entire universe is subjective, which is why 1+1 = 3 and i eat crayons so my poo-poo is pretty colors...
The entire universe is subjective, which is why 1+1 = 3 and i eat crayons so my poo-poo is pretty colors...
Posted by: Any of several progtard politicians at March 28, 2016 10:30 AM (KId5h)
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Uggg...... I think I accidentally swallowed some Easter Egg colorant. I feel like I dyed a little inside.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:25 AM (8XRCm)
You are the egg man. Koo koo ca choo.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:25 AM (8XRCm)
You are the egg man. Koo koo ca choo.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 28, 2016 10:30 AM (sl+zA)
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9 is my lucky number.
Posted by: Miley's Tongue dba Ylva of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy at March 28, 2016 10:30 AM (bIGOo)
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Without gettin into this particular problem I will
say that the Common Core "standards" have made a giant clusterfvck of
math education. The questions are incomprehensibly worded and lacking
in necessary information to provide the answer. It drives me nuts and
leaves my kid in tears. Posted by: Insomniac at March 28, 2016 10:22 AM (0mRoj)
_________
I was horrible and just told my kids that if I couldn't diagram the sentence to figure out what the teacher wanted, they were the ones supposedly sitting in class and they could figure out what the teacher wanted better than I could.
Still laugh about the STEM-type dad pacing the parking lot and muttering about there can't be more than 100% and why do the teachers keep telling parents they can invent more than 100% for their grading system. He really was a broken man. So I just kept my head down, enforced rules, threw out supplemental stuff to keep the kids interested, and hoped for the best.
say that the Common Core "standards" have made a giant clusterfvck of
math education. The questions are incomprehensibly worded and lacking
in necessary information to provide the answer. It drives me nuts and
leaves my kid in tears. Posted by: Insomniac at March 28, 2016 10:22 AM (0mRoj)
_________
I was horrible and just told my kids that if I couldn't diagram the sentence to figure out what the teacher wanted, they were the ones supposedly sitting in class and they could figure out what the teacher wanted better than I could.
Still laugh about the STEM-type dad pacing the parking lot and muttering about there can't be more than 100% and why do the teachers keep telling parents they can invent more than 100% for their grading system. He really was a broken man. So I just kept my head down, enforced rules, threw out supplemental stuff to keep the kids interested, and hoped for the best.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 28, 2016 10:30 AM (MIKMs)
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That shadow under the 999 is effed up.
Posted by: Dang at March 28, 2016 10:27 AM (2oWD2)
________________________
Know what else is efffed up? My career, my brain and body... Just look at the condition of my boobs...
(./ (*/
That shadow under the 999 is effed up.
Posted by: Dang at March 28, 2016 10:27 AM (2oWD2)
________________________
Know what else is efffed up? My career, my brain and body... Just look at the condition of my boobs...
(./ (*/
Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 28, 2016 10:31 AM (HSmrB)
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((9!)^((9!^9!)!))!
Posted by: undocumented CIA math wiz at March 28, 2016 10:32 AM (e8kgV)
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Donkeyface says world leaders are shocked by GOP rhetoric and the GOP campaign is an embarrassment tous. John, speaking of an embarrassment, have you checked the mirror lately?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 28, 2016 10:32 AM (Nwg0u)
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Know what else is efffed up? My career, my brain and body... Just look at the condition of my boobs...
(./ (*/
Posted by: Michelle Fields
Reach out.
(./ (*/
Posted by: Michelle Fields
Reach out.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 10:33 AM (4Hf9E)
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They told me there would be no math
Posted by: President Barack "Unexpectedly" Obama at March 28, 2016 10:33 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: IP at March 28, 2016 10:33 AM (aQQbl)
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If it was a standardized test, no way in hell would the local school grade it, and also no way in hell the teachers or principal would be allowed to discuss the question, besiudes the fact there's no national elementary school test I know of. I just went through the training for proctoring the pssa and about half of it was how we teachers can't look through the books and the massive fines if we or a student copy the questions. And not talk about any quetioins afterwards
Posted by: cavejohnson87 at March 28, 2016 10:34 AM (+PCdM)
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You are the egg man. Koo koo ca choo.
It's goo goo goo joob.
It really bothers me when people get that wrong.
#firstworldproblems
It's goo goo goo joob.
It really bothers me when people get that wrong.
#firstworldproblems
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 10:35 AM (1xUj/)
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My kid came home with a science class paper that had the definitions of "mass" and "volume" flip flopped. It showed me the teachers don't understand what they're teaching. At all. And they don't care. And we live in a supposedly great, highly rated school district.
Posted by: Dang at March 28, 2016 10:35 AM (2oWD2)
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He didn't claim he took it to court... he claimed he took it through the proper administrative process for challenging the nationalized test questions.
^^^
Alright. Conceded. However, just going by his implied timeline, this still has nothing to do with CC. CC is a complete clusterfark and really doesn't need made up attribution to show it as such. I don't think it's helpful to those of us interested in doing away with it for people to attribute supposed problems from 8-10-is years ago to CC when it wasn't in existence, much less being implemented in the schools. It just diminished the case against it when people do things like that.
And I still would like to know why a student with that kind of aptitude was left to languish in a public school. For what they are- free schooling for average folks- they have to teach to the middle. If your child is that intelligent he or she has no business in a classroom full of average kids.
^^^
Alright. Conceded. However, just going by his implied timeline, this still has nothing to do with CC. CC is a complete clusterfark and really doesn't need made up attribution to show it as such. I don't think it's helpful to those of us interested in doing away with it for people to attribute supposed problems from 8-10-is years ago to CC when it wasn't in existence, much less being implemented in the schools. It just diminished the case against it when people do things like that.
And I still would like to know why a student with that kind of aptitude was left to languish in a public school. For what they are- free schooling for average folks- they have to teach to the middle. If your child is that intelligent he or she has no business in a classroom full of average kids.
Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 28, 2016 10:35 AM (KkVB6)
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Kate Upton raised to the 999th power
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 10:35 AM (OZmbA)
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This story is horse manure. I don't believe a word of it.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 28, 2016 10:35 AM (JxMoP)
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Monday Quiz: Name the only sitting First Lady to be fingerprinted as part of an investigation AND to subpoenaed for a different investigation...
Monday Quiz: Name the only sitting First Lady to be fingerprinted as part of an investigation AND to subpoenaed for a different investigation...
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 28, 2016 10:36 AM (KId5h)
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:36 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: IP at March 28, 2016 10:36 AM (aQQbl)
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And sorry for all the typos, sausage fingers on a kindle's keyboard sucks. Hangs head in shame
Posted by: cavejohnson87 at March 28, 2016 10:37 AM (+PCdM)
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>>310 My kid came home with a science class paper that had the definitions of "mass" and "volume" flip flopped.
I edit a small magazine and have had a few teachers write articles. Invariably there are misspellings, errors of fact, people's last names spelled three different ways in the article, etc.
I would really like to do a study where someone would administer a test to groups of teachers and find out what they know and don't know.
I edit a small magazine and have had a few teachers write articles. Invariably there are misspellings, errors of fact, people's last names spelled three different ways in the article, etc.
I would really like to do a study where someone would administer a test to groups of teachers and find out what they know and don't know.
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 10:38 AM (OZmbA)
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Goo Goo g' joob.
If we're being pedantic.
That's what the internet says. I remember it differently from the liner notes in my White Album, but they drowned with all my other vinyl in a basement flood in the 90s.
So I shall concede the point.
If we're being pedantic.
That's what the internet says. I remember it differently from the liner notes in my White Album, but they drowned with all my other vinyl in a basement flood in the 90s.
So I shall concede the point.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 10:38 AM (1xUj/)
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Shit slow news day, only Christians being killed in the MIddle East I guess.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2016 10:38 AM (mw8Dm)
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Sometimes, a child really needs to go along with everybody else and do what they do.
For example, someone decided that March 14 should commemorate the
constant pi by eating pie. That's all well and good as a Tysonesque way
to popularize STEM, but that Greek letter is pronounced "pee."
You see where this is going?
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 10:28 AM (kQ5yx)
The administration of that school would agree with you. When I took in the algebra workbooks he was doing at home for fun and the test results that showing that his math skills were buried in at the far right end of the bell curve, they told me "yes he is doing that work but he doesn't actually understand it."
The thing is, the psychiatrist who did the educational testing also told me that son1 was showing a level of educational turnoff and hatred of school that would shut down his willingness to learn if not addressed and son1 was getting the idea that he had to put no effort at all into learning which is a tremendously bad idea to habituate into a child.
Sometimes, a child really needs to go along with everybody else and do what they do.
For example, someone decided that March 14 should commemorate the
constant pi by eating pie. That's all well and good as a Tysonesque way
to popularize STEM, but that Greek letter is pronounced "pee."
You see where this is going?
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 10:28 AM (kQ5yx)
The administration of that school would agree with you. When I took in the algebra workbooks he was doing at home for fun and the test results that showing that his math skills were buried in at the far right end of the bell curve, they told me "yes he is doing that work but he doesn't actually understand it."
The thing is, the psychiatrist who did the educational testing also told me that son1 was showing a level of educational turnoff and hatred of school that would shut down his willingness to learn if not addressed and son1 was getting the idea that he had to put no effort at all into learning which is a tremendously bad idea to habituate into a child.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 10:39 AM (NPofj)
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I would really like to do a study where someone
would administer a test to groups of teachers and find out what they
know and don't know.
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 10:38 AM (OZmbA)
At a "conference" concerning my son's grades as a sophomore I was all but called a heretic and strung up over a similar comment.
would administer a test to groups of teachers and find out what they
know and don't know.
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 10:38 AM (OZmbA)
At a "conference" concerning my son's grades as a sophomore I was all but called a heretic and strung up over a similar comment.
Posted by: IP at March 28, 2016 10:40 AM (aQQbl)
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In the comments of that story, several people call bullshit. Don't know who is right.
My daughter's first grade teacher earned her enmity forever when she simplified the seasons so that winter started January 1st. My daughter's birthday is December 21st, which she knew darn well could be the first day of winter. She hated getting corrected when she knew she was right.
My daughter's first grade teacher earned her enmity forever when she simplified the seasons so that winter started January 1st. My daughter's birthday is December 21st, which she knew darn well could be the first day of winter. She hated getting corrected when she knew she was right.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at March 28, 2016 10:40 AM (FQKBL)
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Monday Quiz: Name the only sitting First Lady to be
fingerprinted as part of an investigation AND to subpoenaed for a
different investigation...
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 28, 2016 10:36 AM (KId5h)
Betty Ford?
fingerprinted as part of an investigation AND to subpoenaed for a
different investigation...
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 28, 2016 10:36 AM (KId5h)
Betty Ford?
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 10:40 AM (NPofj)
Posted by: franksalterego at March 28, 2016 10:41 AM (Cd+Fa)
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Imaginary numbers oh yeah
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:16 AM (8XRCm)
Nice job!
And a shout out to a little referenced band. ARS was good.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:16 AM (8XRCm)
Nice job!
And a shout out to a little referenced band. ARS was good.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 28, 2016 10:41 AM (kKHcp)
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I used to sing this to a younger girlfriend I once had. She never got it.
I Am The Wallet. Goo goo gajoob.
I Am The Wallet. Goo goo gajoob.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 28, 2016 10:41 AM (Bc1aB)
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But ... hey. On the one hand I admire the hell out of the guy for setting his hair on fire and doing this for his daughter.
What're the chances she grows up to be a super entitled special snowflake?
But ... hey. On the one hand I admire the hell out of the guy for setting his hair on fire and doing this for his daughter.
What're the chances she grows up to be a super entitled special snowflake?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 28, 2016 10:41 AM (1D4Ef)
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I would really like to do a study where someone
would administer a test to groups of teachers and find out what they
know and don't know.
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 10:38 AM (OZmbA)
They know when their pay get's deposited and what they don't know, they don't give a rat's ass about
would administer a test to groups of teachers and find out what they
know and don't know.
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 10:38 AM (OZmbA)
They know when their pay get's deposited and what they don't know, they don't give a rat's ass about
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2016 10:41 AM (mw8Dm)
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:41 AM (8XRCm)
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313 This story is horse manure. I don't believe a word of it.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 28, 2016 10:35 AM (JxMoP)
Agreed. There may be an element of truth in there- maybe his daughter did have some trouble for thinking outside of the box, which I can see happening- but I highly, highly doubt this all went down as he claims. And, again, not attributable to Common Core, as he implied, if his daughter is an adult in college right now.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 28, 2016 10:35 AM (JxMoP)
Agreed. There may be an element of truth in there- maybe his daughter did have some trouble for thinking outside of the box, which I can see happening- but I highly, highly doubt this all went down as he claims. And, again, not attributable to Common Core, as he implied, if his daughter is an adult in college right now.
Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 28, 2016 10:41 AM (KkVB6)
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son1 was getting the idea that he had to put no effort at all into learning which is a tremendously bad idea to habituate into a child.
The lesson is, don't try.
-Homer
The lesson is, don't try.
-Homer
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 28, 2016 10:42 AM (1D4Ef)
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This father just wanted official acknowledgement that his daughter was right and for her correct answer not to be treated as incorrect. The powers that be should not have the power to redefine truth or reality... not when it comes to biology and certainly not when it comes to math.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 10:27 AM (
Redbanzai, you just expressed the heart of the matter. This is exactly the issue at stake.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 10:27 AM (
Redbanzai, you just expressed the heart of the matter. This is exactly the issue at stake.
Posted by: Emmie at March 28, 2016 10:42 AM (rRHdN)
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MUMR is such a waste of a human life
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2016 10:42 AM (mw8Dm)
Posted by: franksalterego at March 28, 2016 10:44 AM (Cd+Fa)
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Good thing .... since "I am the Wlarus" wasnt on the White album...
Oh shit.
*waves goodbye to last brain cell*
I really thought it would hang around longer.
Oh shit.
*waves goodbye to last brain cell*
I really thought it would hang around longer.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 10:45 AM (1xUj/)
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The daughter was not right. The question did not say to use operators. And if you could the daughter would have been wrong any way.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 28, 2016 10:45 AM (Bc1aB)
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And I still would like to know why a student with that kind of aptitude was left to languish in a public school. For what they are- free schooling for average folks- they have to teach to the middle. If your child is that intelligent he or she has no business in a classroom full of average kids.
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I don't believe a word of that story, but in fairness I went to high school with someone like this. He was good in every subject but was a legitimate genius in math, to the point where he was doing independent study his sophomore year, and he turned out just fine.
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I don't believe a word of that story, but in fairness I went to high school with someone like this. He was good in every subject but was a legitimate genius in math, to the point where he was doing independent study his sophomore year, and he turned out just fine.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 28, 2016 10:45 AM (JxMoP)
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What. Youve never met a actual engineer.???
MY.WORST.CLIENTS
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:29 AM (8XRCm)
I used to work for a failed engineer (Aerospace). Guy ran every company he started directly into the ground. With the last one (where I worked for him for a few years) he conned his father into backing the business and his father is now bankrupt...and the son is suing him. Once, he brought in a consulting firm to figure out why the business was failing. The consulting firm's conclusion was that he needed to essentially fire himself from management and hire someone to run the business for him. That resulted in a lengthy legal battle when he refused to pay the consulting firm after they presented him with their findings.
MY.WORST.CLIENTS
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:29 AM (8XRCm)
I used to work for a failed engineer (Aerospace). Guy ran every company he started directly into the ground. With the last one (where I worked for him for a few years) he conned his father into backing the business and his father is now bankrupt...and the son is suing him. Once, he brought in a consulting firm to figure out why the business was failing. The consulting firm's conclusion was that he needed to essentially fire himself from management and hire someone to run the business for him. That resulted in a lengthy legal battle when he refused to pay the consulting firm after they presented him with their findings.
Posted by: Country Singer at March 28, 2016 10:45 AM (GUBah)
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Oh shit.
*waves goodbye to last brain cell*
I really thought it would hang around longer.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 10:45 AM (1xUj/)
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*waves goodbye to last brain cell*
I really thought it would hang around longer.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 10:45 AM (1xUj/)
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Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:45 AM (8XRCm)
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I used to get into trouble for giving answers to test questions which were technically correct, but not what the teacher was looking for. My mom had to get me to understand that being creative is good, but not in every single situation.
Still, maybe I'm just a curmudgeon but I'm getting tired of the "you go girl" stuff about girls in science and math. We're pretty much bombarded with it continually, as if there's something wrong if girls aren't interested - or something meaningless if boys are.
Still, maybe I'm just a curmudgeon but I'm getting tired of the "you go girl" stuff about girls in science and math. We're pretty much bombarded with it continually, as if there's something wrong if girls aren't interested - or something meaningless if boys are.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 28, 2016 10:45 AM (39g3+)
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The story doesn't seem remotely plausible.
It is also wrong. 9/(9-9) for instance is larger than 9^9^9. Once you allow operators, you can go nuts.
It is also wrong. 9/(9-9) for instance is larger than 9^9^9. Once you allow operators, you can go nuts.
Posted by: HiHo at March 28, 2016 10:46 AM (CPk08)
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Don't get me started about these solid Republican governors.
/glares at Gov. Bentley
Do. Not. Get. Me. Started.
/glares at Gov. Bentley
Do. Not. Get. Me. Started.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 28, 2016 10:46 AM (9krrF)
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What. Youve never met a actual engineer.???
I know the guy that runs a local BNSF engine. That count?
I know the guy that runs a local BNSF engine. That count?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 10:47 AM (4Hf9E)
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It is also wrong. 9/(9-9) for instance is larger than 9^9^9. Once you allow operators, you can go nuts.
/smacks on wrist with slide-rule for dividing by zero
/smacks on wrist with slide-rule for dividing by zero
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 28, 2016 10:47 AM (9krrF)
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And, again, not attributable to Common Core, as he implied, if his daughter is an adult in college right now. Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 28, 2016 10:41 AM (KkVB6)
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However, CC is just standardizing and encouraging the previous incarnations of stupidity. Even back when I was in school (60s-70s), the same nonsense problems were being touted as 'advanced'.
________
However, CC is just standardizing and encouraging the previous incarnations of stupidity. Even back when I was in school (60s-70s), the same nonsense problems were being touted as 'advanced'.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 28, 2016 10:48 AM (MIKMs)
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Oh shit.
*waves goodbye to last brain cell*
I really thought it would hang around longer.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
It got on the Last Train To Clarksville?
*waves goodbye to last brain cell*
I really thought it would hang around longer.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
It got on the Last Train To Clarksville?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 10:48 AM (4Hf9E)
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There was exactly one girl in my engineering class (meaning the Freshman class of engineers at La. Tech in 1976). And she was hot.
Of course, as nerd engineering students we were all afraid to talk to her.
Of course, as nerd engineering students we were all afraid to talk to her.
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 10:49 AM (OZmbA)
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My final answer is 777.
Posted by: eleven at March 28, 2016 10:49 AM (aIjzc)
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The answer, of course, is 42. That's always the answer.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 28, 2016 10:50 AM (39g3+)
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I think 777 is pretty.
Posted by: eleven at March 28, 2016 10:50 AM (aIjzc)
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Walking Dead post on my blog
Link in nic
Posted by: @votermom at March 28, 2016 10:00 AM (nbrY/)
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I literally gasped out loud at the ending.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:04 AM (8XRCm)
Not sure but from the way the pistol was aimed, it looks like it should've hits that person's shoulder.
My big complaint about this season's TWD is that Rick and the Gang literally literally do the stupidest fucking thing that they can do in any given situation.
Sure, they've done that before, but this whole season seems like one idiotic decision after another.
Link in nic
Posted by: @votermom at March 28, 2016 10:00 AM (nbrY/)
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I literally gasped out loud at the ending.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:04 AM (8XRCm)
Not sure but from the way the pistol was aimed, it looks like it should've hits that person's shoulder.
My big complaint about this season's TWD is that Rick and the Gang literally literally do the stupidest fucking thing that they can do in any given situation.
Sure, they've done that before, but this whole season seems like one idiotic decision after another.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2016 10:50 AM (0cMkb)
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9^9^9 = potato
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 28, 2016 10:50 AM (/D5Lf)
Posted by: DaveA at March 28, 2016 10:51 AM (DL2i+)
355
99^9
Posted by: Editor at March 28, 2016 10:51 AM (7zhdJ)
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Sooo..the Gov. of Georgia just vetoed the religious liberty bill passed by the state legislature.
Posted by: Jen the original at March 28, 2016 10:51 AM (ph1j2)
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Of course, as nerd engineering students we were all afraid to talk to her.
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 10:49 AM (OZmbA)
________________________
I'd hit it...
*hic*
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 10:49 AM (OZmbA)
________________________
I'd hit it...
*hic*
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 28, 2016 10:51 AM (HSmrB)
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Sure, they've done that before, but this whole season seems like one idiotic decision after another.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2016 10:50 AM (0cMkb)
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Here a TWD conundrum to ponder.
Rick and the group is now....more brutal.... than Shane EVER was.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2016 10:50 AM (0cMkb)
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Here a TWD conundrum to ponder.
Rick and the group is now....more brutal.... than Shane EVER was.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:51 AM (8XRCm)
359
It got on the Last Train To Clarksville?
More of an Elton John vibe.
"Brain cell is travelling tonight on a plane..."
More of an Elton John vibe.
"Brain cell is travelling tonight on a plane..."
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 10:52 AM (1xUj/)
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Of course, as nerd engineering students we were all afraid to talk to her.
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 10:49 AM (OZmbA)
________
Nothing has changed as my youngest girl kidlet is a soph Civil Engineering student.
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 10:49 AM (OZmbA)
________
Nothing has changed as my youngest girl kidlet is a soph Civil Engineering student.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 28, 2016 10:52 AM (MIKMs)
Posted by: eleven at March 28, 2016 10:53 AM (aIjzc)
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test
Posted by: 👊 RWC - Team BOHICA 👊 at March 28, 2016 10:53 AM (/D5Lf)
Posted by: eleven at March 28, 2016 10:53 AM (aIjzc)
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I don't believe a word of that story, but in fairness I went to high school with someone like this. He was good in every subject but was a legitimate genius in math, to the point where he was doing independent study his sophomore year, and he turned out just fine.
^^^^
That's very true, and I know this happens. I think my complaint is more directed at the dad. Your child is that smart, you know she's that smart. You see there is a problem with what they're asking for and the level at which she is thinking. What is the solution there? Do we really push to punish the average folks- for whom the public education system is supposed to be designed- for understanding what the question was looking for because one student- your special snowflake- was thinking at a different level? Hey, it's awesome his daughter is that smart, but his solution is absurdity on stilts.
There is so much in the story that stinks of fabrication or extreme exaggeration. A standardized test that the teachers and/or principle get to see the answers for and possibly change the grade? Nope. That stuff is sent off for grading, etc. Maybe it was a test the teacher made up, but then the drama of going through the national testing process and making everyone in the nation change their grading goes out the window.
^^^^
That's very true, and I know this happens. I think my complaint is more directed at the dad. Your child is that smart, you know she's that smart. You see there is a problem with what they're asking for and the level at which she is thinking. What is the solution there? Do we really push to punish the average folks- for whom the public education system is supposed to be designed- for understanding what the question was looking for because one student- your special snowflake- was thinking at a different level? Hey, it's awesome his daughter is that smart, but his solution is absurdity on stilts.
There is so much in the story that stinks of fabrication or extreme exaggeration. A standardized test that the teachers and/or principle get to see the answers for and possibly change the grade? Nope. That stuff is sent off for grading, etc. Maybe it was a test the teacher made up, but then the drama of going through the national testing process and making everyone in the nation change their grading goes out the window.
Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 28, 2016 10:53 AM (KkVB6)
365
the Gov. of Georgia just vetoed the religious liberty bill passed by the state legislature.
So he took a stand against religious liberty and caved to special interests, got it.
So he took a stand against religious liberty and caved to special interests, got it.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 28, 2016 10:53 AM (39g3+)
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From Vocative c/o BlazingCatFur:
http://bit.ly/25syjl0
Since 1980, the number of Americans who believe in God has decreased by half and the number who pray has declined five-fold. Has America lost its faith? ... "Most previous studies concluded that fewer Americans were publicly affiliating with a religion, but that Americans were just as religious in private ways. That's no longer the case, especially in the last few years."
[Several long paragraphs of my thoughts about this excised because tl;dr attention spans. Maybe I'll put it on my website or something later.]
http://bit.ly/25syjl0
Since 1980, the number of Americans who believe in God has decreased by half and the number who pray has declined five-fold. Has America lost its faith? ... "Most previous studies concluded that fewer Americans were publicly affiliating with a religion, but that Americans were just as religious in private ways. That's no longer the case, especially in the last few years."
[Several long paragraphs of my thoughts about this excised because tl;dr attention spans. Maybe I'll put it on my website or something later.]
Posted by: mindful webworker - what I didn't say! at March 28, 2016 10:53 AM (6hZFv)
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345 Yeah, but just phrase it with limits and you get the appropriate result.
ie as X approaches 9, 9/(9-x) approaches a very big number. I'm just bad at keyboard algebra and I don't care to learn.
ie as X approaches 9, 9/(9-x) approaches a very big number. I'm just bad at keyboard algebra and I don't care to learn.
Posted by: HiHo at March 28, 2016 10:54 AM (CPk08)
368
Here a TWD conundrum to ponder.
Rick and the group is now....more brutal.... than Shane EVER was.
"Everybody look at the flowers!"
Rick and the group is now....more brutal.... than Shane EVER was.
"Everybody look at the flowers!"
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 10:54 AM (4Hf9E)
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After it flashed "overflow"
Posted by: franksalterego at March 28, 2016 10:41 AM (Cd+Fa)
________
That reminds me of a mean prank I pulled --
Back in my community college days, I'd make pin money as a math tutor. They had a special room, and any student who needed help with math could get it for free. Really not a lot of heavy lifting, mentally; most of them just had mental blocks with algebra.
One of my fellow tutors came in showing off his new calculator. He was taking Calc 3, and he could use his gadget to solve problems involving the law of cosines. So I said to him, "Give this a try. You have a triangle with sides 50, 75 and 200. What does the smallest angle measure?"
That poor kid. Knew his third-semester calculus cold but forgot his first-grade geometry.
Posted by: franksalterego at March 28, 2016 10:41 AM (Cd+Fa)
________
That reminds me of a mean prank I pulled --
Back in my community college days, I'd make pin money as a math tutor. They had a special room, and any student who needed help with math could get it for free. Really not a lot of heavy lifting, mentally; most of them just had mental blocks with algebra.
One of my fellow tutors came in showing off his new calculator. He was taking Calc 3, and he could use his gadget to solve problems involving the law of cosines. So I said to him, "Give this a try. You have a triangle with sides 50, 75 and 200. What does the smallest angle measure?"
That poor kid. Knew his third-semester calculus cold but forgot his first-grade geometry.
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 10:54 AM (kQ5yx)
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I see the Muslims had a busy Easter weekend killing Christian Women and Children at a park and crucifying a Catholic Priest on Good Friday.....
Posted by: donna at March 28, 2016 10:54 AM (O2RFr)
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test
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 28, 2016 10:53 AM (/D5Lf)
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Polonium Membership.
What cant it do?
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 28, 2016 10:53 AM (/D5Lf)
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Polonium Membership.
What cant it do?
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:54 AM (8XRCm)
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Now would be a good time for a slow news day Easter mugatu.
Posted by: Fritz at March 28, 2016 10:54 AM (UzPAd)
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Good thing .... since "I am the Wlarus" wasnt on the White album...
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:41 AM (8XRCm)
It was on "Sgt Epperp's" with "Ennpy Elan".
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:41 AM (8XRCm)
It was on "Sgt Epperp's" with "Ennpy Elan".
Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2016 10:54 AM (0cMkb)
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.the Gov. of Georgia just vetoed the religious liberty bill passed by the state legislature.
Failure theater has been man-dated back to the states.
Failure theater has been man-dated back to the states.
Posted by: DaveA at March 28, 2016 10:54 AM (DL2i+)
375
Again
Posted by: 💣 RWC - Team BOHICA 💥 at March 28, 2016 10:55 AM (/D5Lf)
376
My big complaint about this season's TWD is that Rick and the Gang literally literally do the stupidest fucking thing that they can do in any given situation.
Sure, they've done that before, but this whole season seems like one idiotic decision after another.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2016 10:50 AM (0cMkb)
******
A friend and I were discussing this very thing this morning. Also, one would think, at this point in the Zombie Apocalypse, that freelancing would be understood to be done "at your own risk", too.
Sure, they've done that before, but this whole season seems like one idiotic decision after another.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2016 10:50 AM (0cMkb)
******
A friend and I were discussing this very thing this morning. Also, one would think, at this point in the Zombie Apocalypse, that freelancing would be understood to be done "at your own risk", too.
Posted by: antisocialist at March 28, 2016 10:55 AM (9n14Y)
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>>>>>342 9/(9-9) for instance is larger than 9^9^9.
Posted by: HiHo at March 28, 2016 10:46 AM (CPk0
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Actually, 9/(9-9) is undefined. You can't divide by zero.
Posted by: HiHo at March 28, 2016 10:46 AM (CPk0
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Actually, 9/(9-9) is undefined. You can't divide by zero.
Posted by: Emmie at March 28, 2016 10:55 AM (rRHdN)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 10:55 AM (4Hf9E)
379
Sooo..the Gov. of Georgia just vetoed the religious liberty bill passed by the state legislature.
"The 'Republican' Governor of Georgia".
*sniff*
They grow up so fast!
"The 'Republican' Governor of Georgia".
*sniff*
They grow up so fast!
Posted by: Your Proud GOPe at March 28, 2016 10:56 AM (gSQR4)
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:56 AM (8XRCm)
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Actually, 9/(9-9) is undefined.
You can't divide by zero.
You can. But then the universe fold in upon itself.
You can't divide by zero.
You can. But then the universe fold in upon itself.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 10:56 AM (4Hf9E)
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Heh, if you think the Trump/Cruz wars are bad here, go read the comments on this.
There is even a Snopes article on it. Start pointing fingers at Common Core, and a lot of people suddenly become very invested.
There is even a Snopes article on it. Start pointing fingers at Common Core, and a lot of people suddenly become very invested.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 28, 2016 10:56 AM (Iim/I)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 28, 2016 10:56 AM (9krrF)
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Largest number you can make with 3 digits? By three digits I assume you mean fingers or toes. Let's see...I can make a letter K...no, no that's not a number...
Posted by: StrawMan at March 28, 2016 10:56 AM (L9GR7)
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I know the guy that runs a local BNSF engine. That count?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 10:47 AM (4Hf9E)
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That's a pretty cool job.
I know the guy that runs a local BNSF engine. That count?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 10:47 AM (4Hf9E)
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That's a pretty cool job.
Posted by: Soona at March 28, 2016 10:57 AM (Fmupd)
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379 Sooo..the Gov. of Georgia just vetoed the religious liberty bill passed by the state legislature.
"The 'Republican' Governor of Georgia".
*sniff*
They grow up so fast!
So the threats of less than 3% of the population trumps the will of the rest.....
"The 'Republican' Governor of Georgia".
*sniff*
They grow up so fast!
So the threats of less than 3% of the population trumps the will of the rest.....
Posted by: donna at March 28, 2016 10:57 AM (O2RFr)
387
Here a TWD conundrum to ponder.
Rick and the group is now....more brutal.... than Shane EVER was.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:51 AM (8XRCm)
Dang, hadn't really thought about it, but they are...
Rick and the group is now....more brutal.... than Shane EVER was.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:51 AM (8XRCm)
Dang, hadn't really thought about it, but they are...
Posted by: antisocialist at March 28, 2016 10:57 AM (9n14Y)
388
Here a TWD conundrum to ponder.
Rick and the group is now....more brutal.... than Shane EVER was.
****
I know!!!! Hubby and I discuss this all the time. Poor Shane was the guy everyone hated and thought was off his rocker and now we've got basically everyone in the group doing stuff worse than Shane ever did and it's just accepted as necessary for survival. I swear, I think the majority if the folks from the first two seasons that are still alive now would have died by season two had it not been for Shane.
Rick and the group is now....more brutal.... than Shane EVER was.
****
I know!!!! Hubby and I discuss this all the time. Poor Shane was the guy everyone hated and thought was off his rocker and now we've got basically everyone in the group doing stuff worse than Shane ever did and it's just accepted as necessary for survival. I swear, I think the majority if the folks from the first two seasons that are still alive now would have died by season two had it not been for Shane.
Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 28, 2016 10:57 AM (KkVB6)
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Polonium Membership.
What cant it do?
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:54 AM (8XRCm)
It won't hold the name though.
What cant it do?
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:54 AM (8XRCm)
It won't hold the name though.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 28, 2016 10:57 AM (/D5Lf)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 28, 2016 10:58 AM (1ijHg)
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Hah! My brain cell just texted me.
I was thinking White Album because that's where Glass Onion says "the walrus was Paul" to goof on all the lyrics conspiracists.
So, I was still wrong but I was in the right ballpark. Neighborhood? City? I was on the same land mass!
I was thinking White Album because that's where Glass Onion says "the walrus was Paul" to goof on all the lyrics conspiracists.
So, I was still wrong but I was in the right ballpark. Neighborhood? City? I was on the same land mass!
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 10:58 AM (1xUj/)
392
Here a TWD conundrum to ponder.
Rick and the group is now....more brutal.... than Shane EVER was.
"Everybody look at the flowers!"
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 10:54 AM (4Hf9E)
Well, I think that's the point of this and the next season-
just how far down that road will you go, because there's always someone much harder and brutal than you around the corner.
Still it doesn't excuse the extreme stupid of last night's show.
Rick and the group is now....more brutal.... than Shane EVER was.
"Everybody look at the flowers!"
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 10:54 AM (4Hf9E)
Well, I think that's the point of this and the next season-
just how far down that road will you go, because there's always someone much harder and brutal than you around the corner.
Still it doesn't excuse the extreme stupid of last night's show.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2016 10:59 AM (0cMkb)
393
387 Here a TWD conundrum to ponder.
Rick and the group is now....more brutal.... than Shane EVER was.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:51 AM (8XRCm)
Dang, hadn't really thought about it, but they are...
Experience is a harsh teacher.
Rick and the group is now....more brutal.... than Shane EVER was.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 10:51 AM (8XRCm)
Dang, hadn't really thought about it, but they are...
Experience is a harsh teacher.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 11:00 AM (4Hf9E)
394
I'm watching this uk news show on jihadis. One of the biggest obstacles to jihadis, are getting into a country and passports. The area we appear to be failing in. Of course what do we do about jihadis who are born here? Start with not letting them into begin with.
I'm watching this uk news show on jihadis. One of the biggest obstacles to jihadis, are getting into a country and passports. The area we appear to be failing in. Of course what do we do about jihadis who are born here? Start with not letting them into begin with.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 28, 2016 11:01 AM (iQIUe)
395
OT: listening to radio news about who can be forced to attend gay weddings and who can use which bathrooms. How do newscasters do this with a straight face and sanity intact?
Posted by: Emmie at March 28, 2016 11:01 AM (rRHdN)
396
"Crisis averted. Georgia governor vetos religiousi liberty law.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 28, 2016 09:55 AM (Nwg0u)
So sackless Gov bows to the Gaystapo. I hope the voters remember this."
Even more he caved to he "business community". I hope they remember the next time they need conservatives to help fight off more Dem taxes and regulations on evil, greedy businesses. Seem like most big companies have been taken over by progs and gladly go along with the left's agenda. I don't bother with boycotts anymore but I am perfectly willing to let them pay their "fair share" and be regulated out of existence if that is what they want.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 28, 2016 09:55 AM (Nwg0u)
So sackless Gov bows to the Gaystapo. I hope the voters remember this."
Even more he caved to he "business community". I hope they remember the next time they need conservatives to help fight off more Dem taxes and regulations on evil, greedy businesses. Seem like most big companies have been taken over by progs and gladly go along with the left's agenda. I don't bother with boycotts anymore but I am perfectly willing to let them pay their "fair share" and be regulated out of existence if that is what they want.
Posted by: Ripley at March 28, 2016 11:01 AM (1BQGO)
397
ONE TIME AT ELECTROSHOCK CAMP I ATE GLITTER PILLS SO MY POOPY SPARKLED. IT'S HOW I FOUND MY WAY HOME AFTER I GOT LOST ON A SNIPE HUNT...
Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE MOMMY RUTABAGA at March 28, 2016 10:58 AM (KId5h)
I think you and I are just talking right past each other.
Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE MOMMY RUTABAGA at March 28, 2016 10:58 AM (KId5h)
I think you and I are just talking right past each other.
Posted by: StrawMan at March 28, 2016 11:01 AM (L9GR7)
398
>> Poor Shane was the guy everyone hated and thought was off his rocker....
True, but Shane did stuff like shooting the guy who's helping him get medical supplies in the knee to distract the walkers. Also was that weird business with Laurie (which she contributed to), where he ended up trying to murder Rick (i.e. not just for survival), so they're not yet 100% Shane.
True, but Shane did stuff like shooting the guy who's helping him get medical supplies in the knee to distract the walkers. Also was that weird business with Laurie (which she contributed to), where he ended up trying to murder Rick (i.e. not just for survival), so they're not yet 100% Shane.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2016 11:02 AM (NOIQH)
399
A friend and I were discussing this very thing this morning. Also, one would think, at this point in the Zombie Apocalypse, that freelancing would be understood to be done "at your own risk", too.
Posted by: antisocialist at March 28, 2016 10:55 AM (9n14Y)
Thank you.
This.
Exactly.
Posted by: antisocialist at March 28, 2016 10:55 AM (9n14Y)
Thank you.
This.
Exactly.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2016 11:02 AM (0cMkb)
400
swear, I think the majority if the folks from the first two seasons that are still alive now would have died by season two had it not been for Shane.
Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 28, 2016 10:57 AM (KkVB6)
____________________________
Where was Shane when I needed him?
swear, I think the majority if the folks from the first two seasons that are still alive now would have died by season two had it not been for Shane.
Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 28, 2016 10:57 AM (KkVB6)
____________________________
Where was Shane when I needed him?
Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 28, 2016 11:03 AM (HSmrB)
401
Whoever does the MUMR rewrites is a genius.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 28, 2016 11:03 AM (Wckf4)
402
One more thing to ponder.
If Maggies unborn baby has died..... would it be a zombie in her womb.
**shudder**
One more thing to ponder.
If Maggies unborn baby has died..... would it be a zombie in her womb.
**shudder**
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 11:03 AM (8XRCm)
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Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2016 11:02 AM (NOIQH)
Lord, I hated her.
"Oh, Rick! You've got to do something about Shane. He's so awful."
Ten minutes later...
"Oh, Shane! You've got to do something about Rick. He won't do what needs to be done to keep us safe."
What a bitch.
Lord, I hated her.
"Oh, Rick! You've got to do something about Shane. He's so awful."
Ten minutes later...
"Oh, Shane! You've got to do something about Rick. He won't do what needs to be done to keep us safe."
What a bitch.
Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 28, 2016 11:04 AM (KkVB6)
404
>>"Crisis averted. Georgia governor vetos religiousi liberty law.
So much for states rights when states are threatened by big businesses like Hollywood and Apple, etc. Why do they let rich Lefty tools in CA decide their state laws - isn't it bad enough that they've destroyed California?
So much for states rights when states are threatened by big businesses like Hollywood and Apple, etc. Why do they let rich Lefty tools in CA decide their state laws - isn't it bad enough that they've destroyed California?
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2016 11:04 AM (NOIQH)
405
True, but Shane did stuff like shooting the guy who's helping him get medical supplies in the knee to distract the walkers.
Riff on the old joke about not having to outrun the bear, just you?
Riff on the old joke about not having to outrun the bear, just you?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 11:04 AM (4Hf9E)
406
***"True, but Shane did stuff like shooting the guy who's helping him get medical supplies in the knee to distract the walkers. Also was that weird business with Laurie (which she contributed to), where he ended up trying to murder Rick (i.e. not just for survival), so they're not yet 100% Shane."***
^ This to anyone who thinks the group is worse than Shane.
^ This to anyone who thinks the group is worse than Shane.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 28, 2016 11:04 AM (Wckf4)
407
Is The Walking Dead any good anymore? I stopped watching awhile back. Got tired of the premise I guess. Got very tedious, plot just existed to play the characters against each other and never went anywhere. Apparently Rick and company are stuck in Zombie comic book hell forever.
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 11:05 AM (OZmbA)
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397 Posted by: Ripley at March 28, 2016 11:01 AM (1BQGO)
Yup, I am failing to see how defending the CoC suckers and Media InfoTainment complex from Donkey Party's tax rates is getting me anything I want these days.
Yup, I am failing to see how defending the CoC suckers and Media InfoTainment complex from Donkey Party's tax rates is getting me anything I want these days.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 11:05 AM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 28, 2016 11:05 AM (/D5Lf)
Posted by: donna at March 28, 2016 11:05 AM (O2RFr)
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396 OT: listening to radio news about who can be forced to attend gay weddings and who can use which bathrooms. How do newscasters do this with a straight face and sanity intact?
Posted by: Emmie at March 28, 2016 11:01 AM (rRHdN)
If I ever own another business...
the Bathrooms will be Marked 'Penis', and 'No Penis'....
I don't care what you CALL yourself, or how you dress.... what matters is what you do or do NOT have hanging...
Posted by: Emmie at March 28, 2016 11:01 AM (rRHdN)
If I ever own another business...
the Bathrooms will be Marked 'Penis', and 'No Penis'....
I don't care what you CALL yourself, or how you dress.... what matters is what you do or do NOT have hanging...
Posted by: Don Quixote at March 28, 2016 11:05 AM (qf6WZ)
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Is The Walking Dead any good anymore? I stopped watching awhile back. Got tired of the premise I guess. Got very tedious, plot just existed to play the characters against each other and never went anywhere. Apparently Rick and company are stuck in Zombie comic book hell forever.
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 11:05 AM (OZmbA)
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**holds open the door**
OUT!! Heretic.
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 11:05 AM (OZmbA)
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**holds open the door**
OUT!! Heretic.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 11:05 AM (8XRCm)
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One more thing to ponder.
If Maggies unborn baby has died..... would it be a zombie in her womb.
**shudder**
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 11:03 AM (8XRCm)
I will now eat you from the inside out.
*NOM*
*NOM*
*NOM*
*NOM*
*notices empty mouth*
*smacks lips*
*fingers toothless gums*
Well....fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!
If Maggies unborn baby has died..... would it be a zombie in her womb.
**shudder**
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 11:03 AM (8XRCm)
I will now eat you from the inside out.
*NOM*
*NOM*
*NOM*
*NOM*
*notices empty mouth*
*smacks lips*
*fingers toothless gums*
Well....fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!
Posted by: Zombie Fetus at March 28, 2016 11:06 AM (0cMkb)
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Dang: ..My kid came home with a science class paper that had the definitions of "mass" and "volume" flip flopped...
Since we lived in Chicago at the time, we knew we weren't going to put our kids in public schools. But we did put our daughter in a Catholic kindergarten class. Kindergarten - how hard is that?
She came home one day with a mimeographed paper which had been printed flipped left-to-right. (Not even sure how that could be done!) She had dutifully put her name in, backwards, at the top.
We took the paper in and brought this error to the teacher's notice. The teacher waved it off like a complete space cadet. Ha ha no big deal.
End of that experiment in education.
Since we lived in Chicago at the time, we knew we weren't going to put our kids in public schools. But we did put our daughter in a Catholic kindergarten class. Kindergarten - how hard is that?
She came home one day with a mimeographed paper which had been printed flipped left-to-right. (Not even sure how that could be done!) She had dutifully put her name in, backwards, at the top.
We took the paper in and brought this error to the teacher's notice. The teacher waved it off like a complete space cadet. Ha ha no big deal.
End of that experiment in education.
Posted by: mindful webworker - rekrowbew lufdnim at March 28, 2016 11:06 AM (6hZFv)
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Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 28, 2016 11:04 AM (KkVB6)
This. Never realized how much I detested Lori until I watched the earlier seasons over New Years. Seriously, Rick should have shot her himself.
This. Never realized how much I detested Lori until I watched the earlier seasons over New Years. Seriously, Rick should have shot her himself.
Posted by: antisocialist at March 28, 2016 11:06 AM (9n14Y)
Posted by: Barry Manilow 0Bama at March 28, 2016 11:07 AM (VeUrT)
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I hate the gaystapo, but I would rather steer clear of these type of laws altogether than watch worthless Republicans cave on it.
If you're a baker or a wedding photographer, find a new line of work because politicians aren't going to save you.
Also, I do question how stupid people are to say homosexuality is why they don't want to do business with someone.
I think someone should legally be allowed to not do business with anyone regardless of the reasons (even race) but in today's litigious age, it's downright stupid to test those limits.
If you're a baker or a wedding photographer, find a new line of work because politicians aren't going to save you.
Also, I do question how stupid people are to say homosexuality is why they don't want to do business with someone.
I think someone should legally be allowed to not do business with anyone regardless of the reasons (even race) but in today's litigious age, it's downright stupid to test those limits.
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:07 AM (+9uBk)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at March 28, 2016 11:07 AM (0q2P7)
419
412 396 OT: listening to radio news about who can be forced to attend gay weddings and who can use which bathrooms. How do newscasters do this with a straight face and sanity intact?
Posted by: Emmie at March 28, 2016 11:01 AM (rRHdN)
If I ever own another business...
the Bathrooms will be Marked 'Penis', and 'No Penis'....
I don't care what you CALL yourself, or how you dress.... what matters is what you do or do NOT have hanging...
Posted by: Don Quixote at March 28, 2016 11:05 AM (qf6WZ)
What about hermaphrodites, eh? You're such a penisist!
Posted by: Emmie at March 28, 2016 11:01 AM (rRHdN)
If I ever own another business...
the Bathrooms will be Marked 'Penis', and 'No Penis'....
I don't care what you CALL yourself, or how you dress.... what matters is what you do or do NOT have hanging...
Posted by: Don Quixote at March 28, 2016 11:05 AM (qf6WZ)
What about hermaphrodites, eh? You're such a penisist!
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 28, 2016 11:07 AM (QlyN5)
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405 >>"Crisis averted. Georgia governor vetos religiousi liberty law.
So much for states rights when states are threatened by big businesses like Hollywood and Apple, etc. Why do they let rich Lefty tools in CA decide their state laws - isn't it bad enough that they've destroyed California?
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2016 11:04 AM (NOIQH)
My favorite part of this was Georgia being threatened by Disney.....
Disney, who has a TV Station AND Disney stores in SAUDI ARABIA!
So much for states rights when states are threatened by big businesses like Hollywood and Apple, etc. Why do they let rich Lefty tools in CA decide their state laws - isn't it bad enough that they've destroyed California?
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2016 11:04 AM (NOIQH)
My favorite part of this was Georgia being threatened by Disney.....
Disney, who has a TV Station AND Disney stores in SAUDI ARABIA!
Posted by: Don Quixote at March 28, 2016 11:07 AM (qf6WZ)
421
If I ever own another business...
the Bathrooms will be Marked 'Penis', and 'No Penis'....
I don't care what you CALL yourself, or how you dress.... what matters is what you do or do NOT have hanging...
Innie & Outie. And no, not belly buttons.
the Bathrooms will be Marked 'Penis', and 'No Penis'....
I don't care what you CALL yourself, or how you dress.... what matters is what you do or do NOT have hanging...
Innie & Outie. And no, not belly buttons.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 11:08 AM (4Hf9E)
422
This to anyone who thinks the group is worse than Shane.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 28, 2016 11:04 AM (Wckf4)
Not WORSE than Shane. But not as "pure as the driven snow" as they were back when we had Shane to hate.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 28, 2016 11:04 AM (Wckf4)
Not WORSE than Shane. But not as "pure as the driven snow" as they were back when we had Shane to hate.
Posted by: antisocialist at March 28, 2016 11:08 AM (9n14Y)
423
Just noticed the story on the sidebar about a Catholic priest being crucified by Islamic State on Good Friday. He was kidnapped during a raid in which 16 Catholic nurses and nuns were murdered.
It really is past time for soldiers of the Cross to armor up and take a new Crusade over there and destroy those people.
Islam is Satan's religion.
It really is past time for soldiers of the Cross to armor up and take a new Crusade over there and destroy those people.
Islam is Satan's religion.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 28, 2016 11:08 AM (QWtgr)
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>>What a bitch.
Yeah, Laurie was awful. Moved on waaay too quickly with Shane and then turned back to Rick on a dime.
Yeah, Laurie was awful. Moved on waaay too quickly with Shane and then turned back to Rick on a dime.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2016 11:09 AM (NOIQH)
425
418 Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:07 AM (+9uBk)
A lot of us were warning that the glee gang was gunning for scalps and eventually going to attack the church...
we were roundly mocked.
You will be made to clap.
A lot of us were warning that the glee gang was gunning for scalps and eventually going to attack the church...
we were roundly mocked.
You will be made to clap.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 11:09 AM (g8Hfr)
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Alright. Conceded. However, just going by his
implied timeline, this still has nothing to do with CC. CC is a complete
clusterfark and really doesn't need made up attribution to show it as
such. I don't think it's helpful to those of us interested in doing away
with it for people to attribute supposed problems from 8-10-is years
ago to CC when it wasn't in existence, much less being implemented in
the schools. It just diminished the case against it when people do
things like that.
And I still would like to know why a student with that kind of
aptitude was left to languish in a public school. For what they are-
free schooling for average folks- they have to teach to the middle. If
your child is that intelligent he or she has no business in a classroom
full of average kids.
Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 28, 2016 10:35 AM (KkVB6)
The dad also clearly says that this story is about standardized testing and the system that became CC... he clearly acknowledges that it was not a CC test his daughter took but rather a national standardized test.
implied timeline, this still has nothing to do with CC. CC is a complete
clusterfark and really doesn't need made up attribution to show it as
such. I don't think it's helpful to those of us interested in doing away
with it for people to attribute supposed problems from 8-10-is years
ago to CC when it wasn't in existence, much less being implemented in
the schools. It just diminished the case against it when people do
things like that.
And I still would like to know why a student with that kind of
aptitude was left to languish in a public school. For what they are-
free schooling for average folks- they have to teach to the middle. If
your child is that intelligent he or she has no business in a classroom
full of average kids.
Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 28, 2016 10:35 AM (KkVB6)
The dad also clearly says that this story is about standardized testing and the system that became CC... he clearly acknowledges that it was not a CC test his daughter took but rather a national standardized test.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 11:09 AM (NPofj)
427
What about hermaphrodites, eh? You're such a penisist!
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 28, 2016 11:07 AM (QlyN5)
They have one hanging! ergo...
And I'm old fashioned.... I'd rather shock the Men than the Women (Yup.... Sexist all the way down...).
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 28, 2016 11:07 AM (QlyN5)
They have one hanging! ergo...
And I'm old fashioned.... I'd rather shock the Men than the Women (Yup.... Sexist all the way down...).
Posted by: Don Quixote at March 28, 2016 11:09 AM (qf6WZ)
428
Re: Georgia's Religious Liberty Bill
Before Justice Kennedy wrote his fortune cookie gay marriage opinion, a few states had passed gay marriage legislation but these statutes routinely included provisions like Georgia's Religious Liberty Bill. Thus, gays could marry but if you said you had a religious objection you didn't have to bake them a cake, etc. This is how NY's 2011 legislation works.
So now, thanks to Kennedy's 57-state legislation, we don't have a modicum of balance. And gays have proven to be lousy winners.
Having this law passed but then vetoed sets an awful precedent.
Before Justice Kennedy wrote his fortune cookie gay marriage opinion, a few states had passed gay marriage legislation but these statutes routinely included provisions like Georgia's Religious Liberty Bill. Thus, gays could marry but if you said you had a religious objection you didn't have to bake them a cake, etc. This is how NY's 2011 legislation works.
So now, thanks to Kennedy's 57-state legislation, we don't have a modicum of balance. And gays have proven to be lousy winners.
Having this law passed but then vetoed sets an awful precedent.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 28, 2016 11:10 AM (r1fLd)
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Posted by: mindful webworker - rekrowbew lufdnim at March 28, 2016 11:06 AM (6hZFv)
This is why we home school. Our parish has a school and it's supposed to be one of the best in the state for elementary and middle. I put my son in their preK program and did not send him back after that year. They told me to stop teaching him how to read because the other kids in the class were just learning their alphabet and numbers and he was too far ahead. It wasn't fair to the rest of the kids, you see, and poor son was bored.
Fine. Then I'll teach him at home. Hey, it takes up a good deal of my time, but I pay about $500 a year TOPS to school both of my children combined at home, whereas the tuition for the parish school was over $6k a year per child and that was with the discount I would get for being a parishioner.
This is why we home school. Our parish has a school and it's supposed to be one of the best in the state for elementary and middle. I put my son in their preK program and did not send him back after that year. They told me to stop teaching him how to read because the other kids in the class were just learning their alphabet and numbers and he was too far ahead. It wasn't fair to the rest of the kids, you see, and poor son was bored.
Fine. Then I'll teach him at home. Hey, it takes up a good deal of my time, but I pay about $500 a year TOPS to school both of my children combined at home, whereas the tuition for the parish school was over $6k a year per child and that was with the discount I would get for being a parishioner.
Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 28, 2016 11:10 AM (KkVB6)
430
Meh, I've watched every episode of TWD and it's getting pretty tedious to me as well. Characters which don't learn from their mistakes in survival situations shouldn't make it as far as these guys have.
And why should I continue caring about either these characters or this world? Great, so any character can die (and often do), big deal. Lets me know not to care for them. It's either got to get worse or get better to be interesting, not just the same schtick show after show, season after season.
Something has to change.
And why should I continue caring about either these characters or this world? Great, so any character can die (and often do), big deal. Lets me know not to care for them. It's either got to get worse or get better to be interesting, not just the same schtick show after show, season after season.
Something has to change.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 28, 2016 11:10 AM (Wckf4)
431
421 Posted by: Don Quixote at March 28, 2016 11:07 AM (qf6WZ)
Look Maus Haus is no more schizoid than Apple whose Tim Cook refuses to acknowledge the cognitive dissonance in his glitter gunning America whilst doing biz in Saudi and China.
Look Maus Haus is no more schizoid than Apple whose Tim Cook refuses to acknowledge the cognitive dissonance in his glitter gunning America whilst doing biz in Saudi and China.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 11:10 AM (g8Hfr)
432
I had a similar situation occur with my daughter and her 7th grade math teacher. She brought her test home and asked why a certain question was marked wrong, or for an explanation of what she was doing wrong.
I looked at the Q and A, and told her that she had the right answer. (Incidentally, a few others in class got the right answer as well). It was an order of operations issue, and the school was teaching it wrong.
So I wrote up a one page proof, with citations, showing that they needed to fix their faulty teaching.
And they did. It was a district wide reeducation program for the math teachers. They even sent me a letter thanking me.
Oh, and I got the right answer of 9^9^9 before reading the article or comments. Yay me.
I looked at the Q and A, and told her that she had the right answer. (Incidentally, a few others in class got the right answer as well). It was an order of operations issue, and the school was teaching it wrong.
So I wrote up a one page proof, with citations, showing that they needed to fix their faulty teaching.
And they did. It was a district wide reeducation program for the math teachers. They even sent me a letter thanking me.
Oh, and I got the right answer of 9^9^9 before reading the article or comments. Yay me.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 28, 2016 11:10 AM (gyKtp)
Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 28, 2016 11:11 AM (0cMkb)
434
99 Red Balloons with 9 left over.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 28, 2016 11:11 AM (0LHZx)
435
>>Disney, who has a TV Station AND Disney stores in SAUDI ARABIA!
Exactly. Not only do these companies do business in these countries, but they'll happily tailor their scripts to avoid offending them.
When was the last time Hollywood cared about offending Georgians, or Southerners in general?
Exactly. Not only do these companies do business in these countries, but they'll happily tailor their scripts to avoid offending them.
When was the last time Hollywood cared about offending Georgians, or Southerners in general?
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2016 11:11 AM (NOIQH)
436
429 Posted by: Ignoramus at March 28, 2016 11:10 AM (r1fLd)
Well as long as the Gays are putting the "happy" back in "gay" that is what really matters right?
Well as long as the Gays are putting the "happy" back in "gay" that is what really matters right?
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 11:11 AM (g8Hfr)
437
Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 28, 2016 11:11 AM (0cMkb)
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Not all zombies are bad then, eh??
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Not all zombies are bad then, eh??
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 11:12 AM (8XRCm)
438
I wonder what the political make up percentage is of TV show script writers.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 28, 2016 11:12 AM (Bc1aB)
439
99 Red Balloons with 9 left over.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 28, 2016 11:11 AM (0LHZx)
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mmmmmmm......... Nena.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 28, 2016 11:11 AM (0LHZx)
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mmmmmmm......... Nena.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 11:13 AM (8XRCm)
440
A lot of us were warning that the glee gang was gunning for scalps and eventually going to attack the church...
we were roundly mocked.
You will be made to clap.
Posted by: sven10077
I agree with the sentiment, but I do think these are dumb laws to pick a fight on, especially since Republicans will always cave because they worship at the altar of Big Business.
A lot of us were warning that the glee gang was gunning for scalps and eventually going to attack the church...
we were roundly mocked.
You will be made to clap.
Posted by: sven10077
I agree with the sentiment, but I do think these are dumb laws to pick a fight on, especially since Republicans will always cave because they worship at the altar of Big Business.
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:13 AM (+9uBk)
441
My arm died, turned zombie, and
now it's slapping the shit out of me!!!
The arm of Borgus Weems.
My arm died, turned zombie, and
now it's slapping the shit out of me!!!
The arm of Borgus Weems.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 28, 2016 11:13 AM (FkBIv)
442
Innie & Outie. And no, not belly buttons.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 11:08 AM (4Hf9E)
Belly buttons don't count?
*phew*
Would have been awkward explaining why I transitioned at 5 years old.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 11:08 AM (4Hf9E)
Belly buttons don't count?
*phew*
Would have been awkward explaining why I transitioned at 5 years old.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 28, 2016 11:13 AM (/D5Lf)
443
When was the last time Hollywood cared about offending Georgians, or Southerners in general?
Posted by: Lizzy
1958?
When was the last time Hollywood cared about offending Georgians, or Southerners in general?
Posted by: Lizzy
1958?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 28, 2016 11:14 AM (FkBIv)
444
441 Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:13 AM (+9uBk)
The answer then is to purge the donkey types out of the GOP wherever possible not to allow a bunch of anti-American hypocritical assholes from Cali and NY dictate the law to our states.
The answer then is to purge the donkey types out of the GOP wherever possible not to allow a bunch of anti-American hypocritical assholes from Cali and NY dictate the law to our states.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 11:15 AM (g8Hfr)
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Don't get me started about these solid Republican governors.
/glares at Gov. Bentley
Do. Not. Get. Me. Started.Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 28, 2016 10:46 AM (9krrF)Try Massachusetts. "Compassionate Conservative" Chaaahhhlie Baker.Has already said he will not vote for Trump. Has yet to say a word about Cruz, but during recent elections made sure to pump up his favored stooges in opposition to Tea Party candidates.I fully expect the worthless nickelfucker to actively campaign for Scankles in the fall.
Don't get me started about these solid Republican governors.
/glares at Gov. Bentley
Do. Not. Get. Me. Started.Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 28, 2016 10:46 AM (9krrF)Try Massachusetts. "Compassionate Conservative" Chaaahhhlie Baker.Has already said he will not vote for Trump. Has yet to say a word about Cruz, but during recent elections made sure to pump up his favored stooges in opposition to Tea Party candidates.I fully expect the worthless nickelfucker to actively campaign for Scankles in the fall.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2016 11:15 AM (X6fMO)
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My arm died, turned zombie, and
now it's slapping the shit out of me!!!
The arm of Borgus Weems.
The weenus is working overtime
now it's slapping the shit out of me!!!
The arm of Borgus Weems.
The weenus is working overtime
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 11:15 AM (4Hf9E)
Posted by: DaveA at March 28, 2016 11:15 AM (DL2i+)
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>>>I'd hit it...
*hic*
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 28, 2016 10:51 AM (HSmrB)
From your mouth to my........lips. *seductive glance*
Fear the Vag!
Vote the Vag!
Vag 2016!
Cock-free since 9 months before Chelsea was born.
*hic*
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 28, 2016 10:51 AM (HSmrB)
From your mouth to my........lips. *seductive glance*
Fear the Vag!
Vote the Vag!
Vag 2016!
Cock-free since 9 months before Chelsea was born.
Posted by: Shrillary's Vagina at March 28, 2016 11:15 AM (VeUrT)
449
Fenelon, your son will be fine, and will love his trip. If it makes you feel any better, I am heading out right now to the bank to try to see about making my 22-year-old daughter's money accessible to her in Spain, where she is for a week. She took some euros with her, and the bank told her she could get more from any ATM. She has been trying today and the ATMs keep asking for the phone number of the person who sent the money to her (?). Luckily, I am on her bank account too so hopefully we can get this figured out. My husband always tells me to let the kids do things on their own and figure things out. But then guess who is always the one bailing everyone out, including him???!!!
Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2016 11:16 AM (2WwbN)
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ONE TIME AT ELECTROSHOCK CAMP
Yikes, I thought the Order of the Arrow was tough.
Gives getting "tapped out" a whole new meaning.
Yikes, I thought the Order of the Arrow was tough.
Gives getting "tapped out" a whole new meaning.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 11:17 AM (4Hf9E)
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Deal just caved to the prevailing pressure. Get used to it, it is now illegal in the US to object to gay marriage in anyway that can lead to your loss of income. Freedom of religion will not be an excuse to allow you to continue to make money or be employed.
This is similar to the way it is if you are a racist. Just try to express racist sentiment and keep your job. Freedom of speech is irrelevant.
The SJWs have infested the HR, Diversity, and PR arms of all the major corporations now, and emboldened the likes of Disney and American Airlines to publicly threaten a state if they don't toe the line as defined by lefist dogma. I certainly didn't expect a career politico like Nathan Deal to be the guy who would stand on principle. He was always going to fold like a cheap suit.
If you are baker who objects to gay marriage, it is time to just get out of the business of making wedding cakes. You have lost.
This is similar to the way it is if you are a racist. Just try to express racist sentiment and keep your job. Freedom of speech is irrelevant.
The SJWs have infested the HR, Diversity, and PR arms of all the major corporations now, and emboldened the likes of Disney and American Airlines to publicly threaten a state if they don't toe the line as defined by lefist dogma. I certainly didn't expect a career politico like Nathan Deal to be the guy who would stand on principle. He was always going to fold like a cheap suit.
If you are baker who objects to gay marriage, it is time to just get out of the business of making wedding cakes. You have lost.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 28, 2016 11:17 AM (Iim/I)
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The jihadi assholes had over 2 hours to slaughter people in the Bataclan.
The jihadi assholes had over 2 hours to slaughter people in the Bataclan.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 28, 2016 11:17 AM (iQIUe)
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I'd love to see Disney boycott Georgia.
whatever the hell that means. They going to keep Georgians out of the park now? They going to pull DVD's off the shelves? They going to block their stations from being broadcast in Georgia?
Go ahead Disney. Pull out of the Georgia market. Let's see it.
That governor is a putz, and a bad liar. If he really thought the law was "anti gay" he would have vetoed it immediately. He spent all this time worrying about the economics of the thing (a little) and his own political future (a lot)
Here's hoping he gets thrown out on his ass next election.
whatever the hell that means. They going to keep Georgians out of the park now? They going to pull DVD's off the shelves? They going to block their stations from being broadcast in Georgia?
Go ahead Disney. Pull out of the Georgia market. Let's see it.
That governor is a putz, and a bad liar. If he really thought the law was "anti gay" he would have vetoed it immediately. He spent all this time worrying about the economics of the thing (a little) and his own political future (a lot)
Here's hoping he gets thrown out on his ass next election.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 28, 2016 11:17 AM (7NKH4)
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Hey this is kinda crazy but why not just have 2 single stall bathrooms marked "Bathroom"?
Works fine at home...
Works fine at home...
Posted by: IP at March 28, 2016 11:17 AM (aQQbl)
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Walking Dead questions.
1. Wouldn't malnourished zombies eventually peter out and dry up?
2. Since they consist mainly of rotting flesh, wouldn't Rick and Co. be able to smell zombies a mile away?
3. Wouldn't there be great swaths of zombie free land in the U.S., e.g. the desert southwest, midwestern farmland, etc.
4. Since zombies can't swim wouldn't you be able to find a nice island and exterminate the existing zombies and live there unmolested? (until one of your number died, then you'd have to be there to dispatch them).
1. Wouldn't malnourished zombies eventually peter out and dry up?
2. Since they consist mainly of rotting flesh, wouldn't Rick and Co. be able to smell zombies a mile away?
3. Wouldn't there be great swaths of zombie free land in the U.S., e.g. the desert southwest, midwestern farmland, etc.
4. Since zombies can't swim wouldn't you be able to find a nice island and exterminate the existing zombies and live there unmolested? (until one of your number died, then you'd have to be there to dispatch them).
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 11:18 AM (OZmbA)
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What about hermaphrodites, eh? You're such a penisist!
Go shit on a cop car, apparently it's a thing nowadays.
Go shit on a cop car, apparently it's a thing nowadays.
Posted by: DaveA at March 28, 2016 11:18 AM (DL2i+)
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 11:18 AM (8XRCm)
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4. Since zombies can't swim wouldn't you be able to find a nice island and exterminate the existing zombies and live there unmolested? (until one of your number died, then you'd have to be there to dispatch them).
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 11:18 AM (OZmbA)
They walk underwater
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 11:18 AM (OZmbA)
They walk underwater
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 28, 2016 11:21 AM (/D5Lf)
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This guy they arrested in Paris was so involved in both the Brussels and Paris terror attacks and sophisticated in mass murder, it was insane not to interrogate/torture him immediately.
This guy they arrested in Paris was so involved in both the Brussels and Paris terror attacks and sophisticated in mass murder, it was insane not to interrogate/torture him immediately.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 28, 2016 11:21 AM (iQIUe)
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"I'd love to see Disney boycott Georgia.
Companies like Disney have very little leverage over states like Georgia, if the bluff were called. What can they do? Pull production of The Walking Dead? The NFL not give Atlanta the Super Bowl?
This is a further step in the advance of the corporate-statist Borg.
"The SJWs have infested the HR, Diversity, and PR arms of all the major corporations now, "
Spot on.
Companies like Disney have very little leverage over states like Georgia, if the bluff were called. What can they do? Pull production of The Walking Dead? The NFL not give Atlanta the Super Bowl?
This is a further step in the advance of the corporate-statist Borg.
"The SJWs have infested the HR, Diversity, and PR arms of all the major corporations now, "
Spot on.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 28, 2016 11:21 AM (r1fLd)
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Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2016 11:16 AM (2WwbN)
Thanks very much for the support. At the risk of sending like a raging feminist (I'm not at all one, really) and annoying the morons here, I think wives/mothers send up doing lots of stuff because dads are often working lots of hours outside the home (Yes, I know some moms work outside the home too!) and it's easier for the moms to do it. I said to FSpuse that I hope I'll stay alive because if I die you'll only feed our son pizza and hamburgers
(Yes I know men cook too, but FS only makes frozen pizza and boxed pasta, hamborgers and one type of chicken)
Thanks very much for the support. At the risk of sending like a raging feminist (I'm not at all one, really) and annoying the morons here, I think wives/mothers send up doing lots of stuff because dads are often working lots of hours outside the home (Yes, I know some moms work outside the home too!) and it's easier for the moms to do it. I said to FSpuse that I hope I'll stay alive because if I die you'll only feed our son pizza and hamburgers
(Yes I know men cook too, but FS only makes frozen pizza and boxed pasta, hamborgers and one type of chicken)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 11:23 AM (w4NZ8)
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That Ross Douchehat piece in the sidebar:
I don't care if Cruz believes what he says, I only care that he does what he says he will do.
I don't care if Cruz believes what he says, I only care that he does what he says he will do.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 28, 2016 11:23 AM (JxMoP)
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"Wouldn't there be great swaths of zombie free land in the U.S., e.g. the desert southwest, midwestern farmland, etc. "
Always wondered that. Much fewer people there that could have turned zombie to begin with. But water is a problem unless you locate a spring/river/well. Easier to see the zom's coming out in the wide open spaces rather than the dense packed pine forests.
Always wondered that. Much fewer people there that could have turned zombie to begin with. But water is a problem unless you locate a spring/river/well. Easier to see the zom's coming out in the wide open spaces rather than the dense packed pine forests.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2016 11:23 AM (LA7Cm)
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This guy they arrested in Paris was so involved in both the Brussels and Paris terror attacks and sophisticated in mass murder, it was insane not to interrogate/torture him immediately.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 28, 2016 11:21 AM (iQIUe)
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B-b-b-b-b-but.... THATS NOT WHO WE ARE!!!!!! We would really rather let other people die so we can feel morally superior to everybody else.
Because... really, the chances of me getting killed by terrorists are pretty damn small.
~ Liberal fucktards everywhere.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 28, 2016 11:21 AM (iQIUe)
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B-b-b-b-b-but.... THATS NOT WHO WE ARE!!!!!! We would really rather let other people die so we can feel morally superior to everybody else.
Because... really, the chances of me getting killed by terrorists are pretty damn small.
~ Liberal fucktards everywhere.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 11:23 AM (8XRCm)
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If you're allowed to use exponents, you can use other operands. Why not throw in some Knuth's up-arrow notation? I'll use a | character for that. 9|9|9 is already way larger than 9!^9!^9!, which is larger than 9^9^9. Plus, you can have as many |s in there are you want. So, 9|||||9||||9, etc. Basically, you can make an arbitrarily large number.
Short story: girl was wrong. Her dad's a dick too.
If you're allowed to use exponents, you can use other operands. Why not throw in some Knuth's up-arrow notation? I'll use a | character for that. 9|9|9 is already way larger than 9!^9!^9!, which is larger than 9^9^9. Plus, you can have as many |s in there are you want. So, 9|||||9||||9, etc. Basically, you can make an arbitrarily large number.
Short story: girl was wrong. Her dad's a dick too.
Posted by: some1 at March 28, 2016 11:23 AM (S5LAZ)
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Back when we didn't send our kids to school, there wasn't a lot of homeschooling support. It was legal, in Illinois, and we made sure it was in Oklahoma before we moved here. There were some teaching materials to be had, but mostly we just winged it. Everything was a teaching opportunity, going to the zoo, current news, whatever.
Apparently, we didn't do too badly. When our sons had to take literacy tests to get their driver licenses, they both were well above Senior High School level. Even though one son, unfamiliar with test-taking, marked his answers on the question book not the answer sheet. The test-giver didn't care.
By contrast with our lonely experience, my young cousin (1st, once removed) has home-schooled all his kids in a really supportive environment. Lots of mom at the kitchen table study, but also they participate in sports and other things with public schoolers and other home-schoolers, and church associations. One of his just made National Merit Scholar.
Apparently, we didn't do too badly. When our sons had to take literacy tests to get their driver licenses, they both were well above Senior High School level. Even though one son, unfamiliar with test-taking, marked his answers on the question book not the answer sheet. The test-giver didn't care.
By contrast with our lonely experience, my young cousin (1st, once removed) has home-schooled all his kids in a really supportive environment. Lots of mom at the kitchen table study, but also they participate in sports and other things with public schoolers and other home-schoolers, and church associations. One of his just made National Merit Scholar.
Posted by: mindful webworker - autodidacts' dad at March 28, 2016 11:23 AM (6hZFv)
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"When was the last time Hollywood cared about offending Georgians, or Southerners in general?"
Lizzy: That would be back in '99 when that mainline protestant fanatic walked into NBC Headquarters in Manhattan and blew himself and 72 TV executives up after shouting "Christ is Risen!" and left a manifesto saying the Bible condemned homosexuality.
Oh, wait, that never happened. Because in America, butt-f*cking and baby-murdering are the Left's only two sacraments of their evil secular religion, and here they will go to their deaths before they will knuckle under to Christianity. They gladly change scripts for Islamic countries because they believe the Primitive Other is superior to our civilization.
Lizzy: That would be back in '99 when that mainline protestant fanatic walked into NBC Headquarters in Manhattan and blew himself and 72 TV executives up after shouting "Christ is Risen!" and left a manifesto saying the Bible condemned homosexuality.
Oh, wait, that never happened. Because in America, butt-f*cking and baby-murdering are the Left's only two sacraments of their evil secular religion, and here they will go to their deaths before they will knuckle under to Christianity. They gladly change scripts for Islamic countries because they believe the Primitive Other is superior to our civilization.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 28, 2016 11:23 AM (QWtgr)
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Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 11:18 AM (OZmbA)
Good points. Although the one thing keeping the zombie supply replenished is the whole, it's a virus and we're all infected thing. I know at some point you run out of people, but it think the official timeline on the show is less than the number of years it's been running.
Good points. Although the one thing keeping the zombie supply replenished is the whole, it's a virus and we're all infected thing. I know at some point you run out of people, but it think the official timeline on the show is less than the number of years it's been running.
Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 28, 2016 11:24 AM (KkVB6)
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Whatever happened to" If gay marriage is passed, no person will be "forced" to perform wedding ceremonies, or participate in said weddings because of their Religious beliefs?" I thought We were assured of that...
Hate to say it but there is no going back... They will demand more and more....
Hate to say it but there is no going back... They will demand more and more....
Posted by: donna at March 28, 2016 11:24 AM (O2RFr)
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I agree with the sentiment, but I do think these are dumb laws to pick a fight on, especially since Republicans will always cave because they worship at the altar of Big Business.
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:13 AM (+9uBk)
Pretty sure those sued into bankruptcy by the gay gestapo don't think they're dumb laws.
They're pretty spot-on laws addressing a very real, very destructive tactic at play in the lives of very real people.
You're right that we face cowardice and naked opposition within the GOP, but I'm okay if this fight destroys the party as well.
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:13 AM (+9uBk)
Pretty sure those sued into bankruptcy by the gay gestapo don't think they're dumb laws.
They're pretty spot-on laws addressing a very real, very destructive tactic at play in the lives of very real people.
You're right that we face cowardice and naked opposition within the GOP, but I'm okay if this fight destroys the party as well.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 28, 2016 11:24 AM (7NKH4)
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Charlie Sykes, radio talker in WI, just tweeted that Kasich is pulling all of his radio ads from Wisconsin markets.
It could just be an acknowledgement that he (Kasich) has no shot in WI or part of a larger issue w/ his poorly run and poorly funded campaign.
It could just be an acknowledgement that he (Kasich) has no shot in WI or part of a larger issue w/ his poorly run and poorly funded campaign.
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at March 28, 2016 11:24 AM (t5zYU)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 28, 2016 11:24 AM (AroJD)
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YOU KNOW WHO TRIES TOO HARD TO BE FUNNY? --MIRROR UNIVERSE WENIS ET AL
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 11:25 AM (OZmbA)
474
452.
I agree
Being gay today is like being a racial minority. If you "discriminate" based on that alone, you're going to be sued and probably lose.
I oppose that mentality, but I also am against the idea a business owner can't decide not to work with someone based on any reason they want, just for the right of private property If someone doesn't like working with say non-Muslims, so be it. But that is also a losing issue that was gone half a century ago.
I think moving forward conservatives are stupid to try and pass these types of bills.
I agree
Being gay today is like being a racial minority. If you "discriminate" based on that alone, you're going to be sued and probably lose.
I oppose that mentality, but I also am against the idea a business owner can't decide not to work with someone based on any reason they want, just for the right of private property If someone doesn't like working with say non-Muslims, so be it. But that is also a losing issue that was gone half a century ago.
I think moving forward conservatives are stupid to try and pass these types of bills.
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:25 AM (+9uBk)
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Easier to see the zom's coming out in the wide open spaces rather than the dense packed pine forests.>>>
Would desert Zombies dry out and go POOF when you shot them?
Would desert Zombies dry out and go POOF when you shot them?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 28, 2016 11:26 AM (P/aDH)
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461 "I'd love to see Disney boycott Georgia.
Companies like Disney have very little leverage over states like Georgia, if the bluff were called. What can they do? Pull production of The Walking Dead? The NFL not give Atlanta the Super Bowl?
This is a further step in the advance of the corporate-statist Borg.
"The SJWs have infested the HR, Diversity, and PR arms of all the major corporations now, "
Spot on.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 28, 2016 11:21 AM (r1fLd)
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When you sell your soul to the corporate hive-mind..........
461 "I'd love to see Disney boycott Georgia.
Companies like Disney have very little leverage over states like Georgia, if the bluff were called. What can they do? Pull production of The Walking Dead? The NFL not give Atlanta the Super Bowl?
This is a further step in the advance of the corporate-statist Borg.
"The SJWs have infested the HR, Diversity, and PR arms of all the major corporations now, "
Spot on.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 28, 2016 11:21 AM (r1fLd)
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When you sell your soul to the corporate hive-mind..........
Posted by: Soona at March 28, 2016 11:27 AM (Fmupd)
477
It could just be an acknowledgement that he (Kasich)
has no shot in WI or part of a larger issue w/ his poorly run and
poorly funded campaign.
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at March 28, 2016 11:24 AM (t5zYU)
I hope the latter... he is the last gasp of the the establishment.
has no shot in WI or part of a larger issue w/ his poorly run and
poorly funded campaign.
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at March 28, 2016 11:24 AM (t5zYU)
I hope the latter... he is the last gasp of the the establishment.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 11:27 AM (NPofj)
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B-b-b-b-b-but.... THATS NOT WHO WE ARE!!!!!! We would really rather let other people die so we can feel morally superior to everybody else.
Because... really, the chances of me getting killed by terrorists are pretty damn small.
~ Liberal fucktards everywhere.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 11:23 AM (8XRCm)
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It's who I am. Just pass me that hot poker...
B-b-b-b-b-but.... THATS NOT WHO WE ARE!!!!!! We would really rather let other people die so we can feel morally superior to everybody else.
Because... really, the chances of me getting killed by terrorists are pretty damn small.
~ Liberal fucktards everywhere.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 11:23 AM (8XRCm)
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It's who I am. Just pass me that hot poker...
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 28, 2016 11:28 AM (iQIUe)
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"They walk underwater"
There is actually a reference in the novel World War Z to millions of zombies spending years walking along the ocean floor to get to other continents. That's where the suspension of disbelief fell away forever for me. These creature follow mine of the rules of biology, chemistry or physics. They just keep going forever, aparently not burning anything for fuel, until you kill their already dead brain.
There is actually a reference in the novel World War Z to millions of zombies spending years walking along the ocean floor to get to other continents. That's where the suspension of disbelief fell away forever for me. These creature follow mine of the rules of biology, chemistry or physics. They just keep going forever, aparently not burning anything for fuel, until you kill their already dead brain.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 28, 2016 11:28 AM (QWtgr)
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Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 11:23 AM (w4NZ
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Fenelon, your husband is a gourmet cook compared to mine. Mine can make toast.
I also do all the financial stuff for us, for the very reason you state - he's at work all day, and I'm lucky enough to stay home and homeschool my kids. But periodically I will say to him, just in case you ever need to know, here's where I keep all the bills, here's where the extra checks are, here's my file of tax stuff (I do our taxes too), etc. Of course, one look at my desk at this very moment and no one would be ever to find a blessed thing. Oh well.
Off to the bank - hope I can straighten this out!
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Fenelon, your husband is a gourmet cook compared to mine. Mine can make toast.
I also do all the financial stuff for us, for the very reason you state - he's at work all day, and I'm lucky enough to stay home and homeschool my kids. But periodically I will say to him, just in case you ever need to know, here's where I keep all the bills, here's where the extra checks are, here's my file of tax stuff (I do our taxes too), etc. Of course, one look at my desk at this very moment and no one would be ever to find a blessed thing. Oh well.
Off to the bank - hope I can straighten this out!
Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2016 11:28 AM (2WwbN)
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Whatever happened to" If gay marriage is passed, no person will be "forced" to perform wedding ceremonies, or participate in said weddings because of their Religious beliefs?" I thought We were assured of that...
We were. By several people on this very blog, in fact. Who will, rather like St. Peter, deny until the cock crows that they ever said such.
I am fucking sick and tired of this country catering to the whims of petulant garbage babies who never got over their daddy issues.
Whatever happened to" If gay marriage is passed, no person will be "forced" to perform wedding ceremonies, or participate in said weddings because of their Religious beliefs?" I thought We were assured of that...
We were. By several people on this very blog, in fact. Who will, rather like St. Peter, deny until the cock crows that they ever said such.
I am fucking sick and tired of this country catering to the whims of petulant garbage babies who never got over their daddy issues.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2016 11:29 AM (X6fMO)
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Good look, Bluebell. I will keep you in prayer.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 11:29 AM (w4NZ8)
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341 I used to get into trouble for giving answers to test questions which were technically correct, but not what the teacher was looking for. My mom had to get me to understand that being creative is good, but not in every single situation.
Still, maybe I'm just a curmudgeon but I'm getting tired of the "you go girl" stuff about girls in science and math. We're pretty much bombarded with it continually, as if there's something wrong if girls aren't interested - or something meaningless if boys are.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 28, 2016 10:45 AM (39g3+)
This.
What do the liberals propose, a draft?
Still, maybe I'm just a curmudgeon but I'm getting tired of the "you go girl" stuff about girls in science and math. We're pretty much bombarded with it continually, as if there's something wrong if girls aren't interested - or something meaningless if boys are.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 28, 2016 10:45 AM (39g3+)
This.
What do the liberals propose, a draft?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 28, 2016 11:30 AM (oKE6c)
Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2016 11:30 AM (MvFEq)
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It could just be an acknowledgement that he (Kasich) has no shot in WI or part of a larger issue w/ his poorly run and poorly funded campaign.
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Or a cynical calculation that he believes he's already accomplished his true goal of making sure that there's no clear winner in Wisconsin so why spend any more money there.
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Or a cynical calculation that he believes he's already accomplished his true goal of making sure that there's no clear winner in Wisconsin so why spend any more money there.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 28, 2016 11:30 AM (JxMoP)
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 11:30 AM (8XRCm)
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In the zombie apocalypse -
North to Alaska, bitchez!
Frozen zombies go nowhere.
And are easy to deheadify.
North to Alaska, bitchez!
Frozen zombies go nowhere.
And are easy to deheadify.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2016 11:30 AM (0cMkb)
488
Would desert Zombies dry out and go POOF when you shot them?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 28, 2016 11:26 AM (P/aDH)
Mebbe so. You'd think they'd get kind of crunchy at the very least.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 28, 2016 11:26 AM (P/aDH)
Mebbe so. You'd think they'd get kind of crunchy at the very least.
Posted by: antisocialist at March 28, 2016 11:31 AM (9n14Y)
489
Thanks for the prayers, Fenelon! Will let you know how it goes!
Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2016 11:31 AM (2WwbN)
490
29 trigintillion
Posted by: yobobbyb at March 28, 2016 11:31 AM (BKGXB)
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Haha, garrett and fixerupper - you leave Fenelon alone!
Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2016 11:32 AM (2WwbN)
492
These creature follow mine of the rules of biology, chemistry or physics. They just keep going forever, aparently not burning anything for fuel, until you kill their already dead brain.
Dead brain is where it all falls apart.
No brain = no firing synapses.
No firing synapses = no working muscles
No working muscles = no one shuffling.
Dead brain is where it all falls apart.
No brain = no firing synapses.
No firing synapses = no working muscles
No working muscles = no one shuffling.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 11:32 AM (4Hf9E)
493
In other news... Trump is apparently not happy about delegate apportionment in Louisiana and is threatening to sue.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 11:33 AM (NPofj)
494
Would desert Zombies dry out and go POOF when you shot them?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 28, 2016 11:26 AM (P/aDH)
Mebbe so. You'd think they'd get kind of crunchy at the very least.
Posted by: antisocialist at March 28, 2016 11:31 AM (9n14Y)
So...
If Rod Dreher died in the zombie apocalypse-
would he be a
Crunchy Con Zom?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 28, 2016 11:26 AM (P/aDH)
Mebbe so. You'd think they'd get kind of crunchy at the very least.
Posted by: antisocialist at March 28, 2016 11:31 AM (9n14Y)
So...
If Rod Dreher died in the zombie apocalypse-
would he be a
Crunchy Con Zom?
Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2016 11:33 AM (0cMkb)
495
462 Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2016 11:16 AM (2WwbN)
Thanks very much for the support. At the risk of sending like a raging feminist (I'm not at all one, really) and annoying the morons here, I think wives/mothers send up doing lots of stuff because dads are often working lots of hours outside the home (Yes, I know some moms work outside the home too!) and it's easier for the moms to do it. I said to FSpuse that I hope I'll stay alive because if I die you'll only feed our son pizza and hamburgers
(Yes I know men cook too, but FS only makes frozen pizza and boxed pasta, hamborgers and one type of chicken)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 11:23 AM (w4NZ
You say frozen pizza, boxed pasta, and hamburgers like it's a BAD thing! I think your spouse is just familiarizing them with vital cooking skills for when they go out on their own.
(I'm trying to remember how much cooking I did when I was a bachelor. There's a reason why they knew me on sight at the local restaurants.)
Thanks very much for the support. At the risk of sending like a raging feminist (I'm not at all one, really) and annoying the morons here, I think wives/mothers send up doing lots of stuff because dads are often working lots of hours outside the home (Yes, I know some moms work outside the home too!) and it's easier for the moms to do it. I said to FSpuse that I hope I'll stay alive because if I die you'll only feed our son pizza and hamburgers
(Yes I know men cook too, but FS only makes frozen pizza and boxed pasta, hamborgers and one type of chicken)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 11:23 AM (w4NZ
You say frozen pizza, boxed pasta, and hamburgers like it's a BAD thing! I think your spouse is just familiarizing them with vital cooking skills for when they go out on their own.
(I'm trying to remember how much cooking I did when I was a bachelor. There's a reason why they knew me on sight at the local restaurants.)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 28, 2016 11:33 AM (QlyN5)
496
In the zombie apocalypse -
North to Alaska, bitchez!
Frozen zombies go nowhere.
And are easy to deheadify.
Check out the nazi skiing zombies.
North to Alaska, bitchez!
Frozen zombies go nowhere.
And are easy to deheadify.
Check out the nazi skiing zombies.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 11:34 AM (4Hf9E)
497
Pretty sure those sued into bankruptcy by the gay gestapo don't think they're dumb laws.
They're pretty spot-on laws addressing a very real, very destructive tactic at play in the lives of very real people.
You're right that we face cowardice and naked opposition within the GOP, but I'm okay if this fight destroys the party as well.
Posted by: TexasDan
At the same time, how stupid are these people to say "No, I'm not selling you a cake because you're gay couple"
And frankly, I don't know what religion forbids people to sell to "sinners".
I'm just done watching this issue fail over and over again. We saw it in Indiana, and it absolutely destroyed the Governor and now in GA as well.
Some people want to fall on their sword, but I'd like to focus on winning issues rather than handing Democrats these victories.
in the meantime, if you're a business owner and working with anyone gay is against everything you stand for, better find creative ways rather than saying you're refusing service over sexual orientation unless you want to spend a lot of money on legal bills
They're pretty spot-on laws addressing a very real, very destructive tactic at play in the lives of very real people.
You're right that we face cowardice and naked opposition within the GOP, but I'm okay if this fight destroys the party as well.
Posted by: TexasDan
At the same time, how stupid are these people to say "No, I'm not selling you a cake because you're gay couple"
And frankly, I don't know what religion forbids people to sell to "sinners".
I'm just done watching this issue fail over and over again. We saw it in Indiana, and it absolutely destroyed the Governor and now in GA as well.
Some people want to fall on their sword, but I'd like to focus on winning issues rather than handing Democrats these victories.
in the meantime, if you're a business owner and working with anyone gay is against everything you stand for, better find creative ways rather than saying you're refusing service over sexual orientation unless you want to spend a lot of money on legal bills
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:34 AM (+9uBk)
498
I saw Corporate Hive-Mind open for iPhone Zombies at Bumbershoot in 2009.
I missed the entire show because I was trying to download an OS update on my iPad and it kept hanging up and forcing restarts.
I missed the entire show because I was trying to download an OS update on my iPad and it kept hanging up and forcing restarts.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 28, 2016 11:34 AM (QWtgr)
499
It's great to have a spouse who makes you laugh. FS said a few days ago, "Shall we buy these pajamas with big Sponge Bob pictures on them and secretly sneak them in his luggage ?( Our son is 16). " Let's think of ways to totally embarrass our son." The bus is leaving shortly. He said, "How about if we go over and wave at the bus and jim up and down.
"Yes, dear," I said;" I'm sure he'd love that." LOL
"Yes, dear," I said;" I'm sure he'd love that." LOL
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 11:34 AM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 11:35 AM (8XRCm)
501
51 Avocado's Number is green with envy.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 28, 2016 09:19 AM (p4UlV)
I defer to Amishdude, but isn't it (infinity)^(infinity)^(infinity) (I can't make the sideways eight on my computer.)
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist
Your computer's too heavy to turn on its side?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 28, 2016 09:19 AM (p4UlV)
I defer to Amishdude, but isn't it (infinity)^(infinity)^(infinity) (I can't make the sideways eight on my computer.)
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist
Your computer's too heavy to turn on its side?
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at March 28, 2016 11:35 AM (kfcYC)
502
joncelli, your comment reminds me that my husband actually used to "cook" for himself when he was a bachelor. He made one thing - hamburger, with corn and ketchup thrown in, all cooked in a frying pan. He was very proud of that. I couldn't decide whether he really liked it or was just trying to get me to feel sorry for him and invite him over for dinner more often.
Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2016 11:35 AM (2WwbN)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 11:35 AM (Zu3d9)
504
I am fucking sick and tired of this country catering to the whims of petulant garbage babies who never got over their daddy issues.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
Welcome to Team #LetItBurn
Because, when it does, they won't make it.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
Welcome to Team #LetItBurn
Because, when it does, they won't make it.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 11:36 AM (4Hf9E)
505
Wouldn't it be 999! ?
Posted by: chemjeff at March 28, 2016 11:37 AM (+Fl7e)
506
Oh wait maybe not.
Posted by: chemjeff at March 28, 2016 11:37 AM (+Fl7e)
507
>>I think moving forward conservatives are stupid to try and pass these types of bills.
The bills are an attempt to stop the next wave. You don;t think it will stop with harassing wedding vendors, right?
Churches will be sued/forced to officiate same sex weddings, religious institutions will be forced to hire openly gay teachers, maybe even clergy. Who know what else. That's the problem, we always believed that it was enough to live and let live.
The bills are an attempt to stop the next wave. You don;t think it will stop with harassing wedding vendors, right?
Churches will be sued/forced to officiate same sex weddings, religious institutions will be forced to hire openly gay teachers, maybe even clergy. Who know what else. That's the problem, we always believed that it was enough to live and let live.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2016 11:37 AM (NOIQH)
508
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2016 11:30 AM (8XRCm)
LOL. You just never know what to expect from the less than nimble fingers of FS. ;^)
LOL. You just never know what to expect from the less than nimble fingers of FS. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 11:37 AM (w4NZ8)
509
Dead brain is where it all falls apart.
No brain = no firing synapses.
No firing synapses = no working muscles
No working muscles = no one shuffling.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 11:32 AM (4Hf9E)
********
First season, episode "TS-19". Dude at the CDC did a cat scan on his own wife (test subject 19) to show what happened to her brain when she re-animated.
Also - yeah, yeah, it's just a tv show.
No brain = no firing synapses.
No firing synapses = no working muscles
No working muscles = no one shuffling.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 11:32 AM (4Hf9E)
********
First season, episode "TS-19". Dude at the CDC did a cat scan on his own wife (test subject 19) to show what happened to her brain when she re-animated.
Also - yeah, yeah, it's just a tv show.
Posted by: antisocialist at March 28, 2016 11:37 AM (9n14Y)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 11:37 AM (4Hf9E)
511
Yo!
Posted by: Yo! at March 28, 2016 11:37 AM (GwIKd)
Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2016 11:38 AM (MvFEq)
513
How long does this Zombie reign continue? When do we start back on werewolves and vampires?
We need a good Frankenstein flick, did anybody else read the three Dean Koontz novels? I thought they were were pretty good.
We need a good Frankenstein flick, did anybody else read the three Dean Koontz novels? I thought they were were pretty good.
Posted by: IP at March 28, 2016 11:38 AM (aQQbl)
514
I also am against the idea a business owner can't decide not to work
with someone based on any reason they want, just for the right of
private property
Triple negative.
9.7
with someone based on any reason they want, just for the right of
private property
Triple negative.
9.7
Posted by: East German Judge at March 28, 2016 11:38 AM (gSQR4)
515
This is all happening because Bush lied. We supports Senater Sanders for Presdent to carry on our Furst Black Presdent's policies.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at March 28, 2016 11:38 AM (KRuzk)
516
504 joncelli, your comment reminds me that my husband actually used to "cook" for himself when he was a bachelor. He made one thing - hamburger, with corn and ketchup thrown in, all cooked in a frying pan. He was very proud of that. I couldn't decide whether he really liked it or was just trying to get me to feel sorry for him and invite him over for dinner more often.
Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2016 11:35 AM (2WwbN)
I managed to get my wife to clean my apartment when we were dating simply by leaving it as it was. She finally got fed up with the incredible clutter and, one day while I was pulling overtime at work, put everything away. Totally ruined my filing system.
Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2016 11:35 AM (2WwbN)
I managed to get my wife to clean my apartment when we were dating simply by leaving it as it was. She finally got fed up with the incredible clutter and, one day while I was pulling overtime at work, put everything away. Totally ruined my filing system.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 28, 2016 11:39 AM (QlyN5)
517
I think a sense of humor is of utmost iimportance when choosing a spouse. We joke around with each other and our kids all the time, and have raised our kids to be able to laugh at themselves and always see the funny side of things. The result is that they all have great senses of humor and we have a lot of laughter in the house. They'll have great stories to tell their kids.
Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2016 11:39 AM (2WwbN)
518
I think zombies would be good to have around. Have them clean the house or mow the lawn and then hand them a couple of pounds of hamburger as payment.
Posted by: Soona at March 28, 2016 11:39 AM (Fmupd)
519
I kind of like the sookie stackhouse naked vampire. But the series kind of sucks.
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 11:40 AM (OZmbA)
520
>>He made one thing - hamburger, with corn and ketchup thrown in
That's pathetic AND gross.
Right. It's supposed to be hamburger with onion and ketchup thrown in.
That's pathetic AND gross.
Right. It's supposed to be hamburger with onion and ketchup thrown in.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 11:40 AM (1xUj/)
521
I like Z Nation, especially the Area 51 and the fast zombies episodes. The fast zombies are called blasters because they were exposed to radiation from a nuclear missile and now they are extra fast and walk all crab like at 60 + miles an hour.
I like Z Nation, especially the Area 51 and the fast zombies episodes. The fast zombies are called blasters because they were exposed to radiation from a nuclear missile and now they are extra fast and walk all crab like at 60 + miles an hour.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 28, 2016 11:40 AM (iQIUe)
522
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 28, 2016 11:33 AM (QlyN5)
Wehn FS lived on his own I don't think he did much cooking either.
I don't know if you get involved in the book thread, joncelli but I left a note on it saying that I attended an evening liturgy at the Orthodox church Saturday night. Very different from your typical Protestant or even Catholic service. I liked it.
Wehn FS lived on his own I don't think he did much cooking either.
I don't know if you get involved in the book thread, joncelli but I left a note on it saying that I attended an evening liturgy at the Orthodox church Saturday night. Very different from your typical Protestant or even Catholic service. I liked it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 11:40 AM (w4NZ8)
523
How about two digits? 0 to the -1th.
Posted by: t-bird at March 28, 2016 11:40 AM (F1ndw)
524
Except it's set in north Louisiana where I went to school That's pretty neat. Not many true cajuns in north La. though. Bon Temps
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 11:41 AM (OZmbA)
525
508 Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2016 11:37 AM (NOIQH)
Justice Kennedy helped kill the GOP when he shat out his "No I am NOT gay REALLY" ruling.
Thing is the cracks in the party were pretty evident during the Great AoS F-250 of Justice Glee Gang Debates back in the day.
You have those of us who live in the real world and analyze intentions based on what activist groups say and try to do and you have those of us who think if we cave just this one more time the next time those same Glee Gangers will side with us against the insanity.
Sit back and wait for the fun when we find out who the moistest special grievance victim is....Haji Haji Haji get your adverbs here *or* Richard Simmons.
Justice Kennedy helped kill the GOP when he shat out his "No I am NOT gay REALLY" ruling.
Thing is the cracks in the party were pretty evident during the Great AoS F-250 of Justice Glee Gang Debates back in the day.
You have those of us who live in the real world and analyze intentions based on what activist groups say and try to do and you have those of us who think if we cave just this one more time the next time those same Glee Gangers will side with us against the insanity.
Sit back and wait for the fun when we find out who the moistest special grievance victim is....Haji Haji Haji get your adverbs here *or* Richard Simmons.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 11:41 AM (g8Hfr)
526
garrett, I agree that that concoction is gross. Fortunately, he never offered it to me.
joncelli, you've got a very nice wife. I have to say that my husband is a very neat and tidy guy. That more than makes up for his lack of cooking skills.
joncelli, you've got a very nice wife. I have to say that my husband is a very neat and tidy guy. That more than makes up for his lack of cooking skills.
Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2016 11:41 AM (2WwbN)
527
I think zombies would be good to have around. Have them clean the house or mow the lawn and then hand them a couple of pounds of hamburger as payment.
Posted by: Soona at March 28, 2016 11:39 AM (Fmupd)
Also, seems like a good way to keep the Jehovah's Witnesses and vacuum cleaner salesmen out of the yard. Heh heh.
Posted by: Soona at March 28, 2016 11:39 AM (Fmupd)
Also, seems like a good way to keep the Jehovah's Witnesses and vacuum cleaner salesmen out of the yard. Heh heh.
Posted by: antisocialist at March 28, 2016 11:42 AM (9n14Y)
528
Had this happen to me:
Got a call to come in to the school. My 7th grade son had caused a problem of some sort.
Got there. It was explained to me that, during a science class the kid were formed into teams and told that the first tea which could create the tallest structure out of a sheet of newspaper would win a homework pass.
The complaint was that my son said "it's a cone" and told the other kids with other ideas that their ideas were wrong.
He didn't call them stupid. Just didn't engage and explore their concepts and insisted that his team build a cone.
I asked the logical question: Well, was he right?
The answer: Yes, but that's not the point ...
I 'got the point' - but explained to them that the teacher put the kids into a competitive situation, and that was on them.
Got a call to come in to the school. My 7th grade son had caused a problem of some sort.
Got there. It was explained to me that, during a science class the kid were formed into teams and told that the first tea which could create the tallest structure out of a sheet of newspaper would win a homework pass.
The complaint was that my son said "it's a cone" and told the other kids with other ideas that their ideas were wrong.
He didn't call them stupid. Just didn't engage and explore their concepts and insisted that his team build a cone.
I asked the logical question: Well, was he right?
The answer: Yes, but that's not the point ...
I 'got the point' - but explained to them that the teacher put the kids into a competitive situation, and that was on them.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at March 28, 2016 11:42 AM (8Q1Gy)
529
Kenneth! What is the frequency?
Posted by: G6loq at March 28, 2016 11:42 AM (zj+JZ)
530
Supposedly their brain works down at the core. The brain scans at the Atlanta CDC showed that. But yeah, of course any zombie show is gonna require a fvckton of disbelief suspension.
That's why fast "zombies" (people whose brains were hijacked or damaged in the same way) are a little more believable. Also much more terrifying.
Though I do like how in TWD that zombies are just viewed as speedbumps or inconveniences now and that the real fear is of the living. But there's only so many ways to make it interesting and I think they're running out of ideas.
That's why fast "zombies" (people whose brains were hijacked or damaged in the same way) are a little more believable. Also much more terrifying.
Though I do like how in TWD that zombies are just viewed as speedbumps or inconveniences now and that the real fear is of the living. But there's only so many ways to make it interesting and I think they're running out of ideas.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 28, 2016 11:42 AM (Wckf4)
531
Bandersnatch, onions would have involved cutting them up. I don't think he was prepared to invest that much effort.
Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2016 11:42 AM (2WwbN)
532
Sit back and wait for the fun when we find out who the moistest special grievance victim is....Haji Haji Haji get your adverbs here *or* Richard Simmons.
Sorry. Won't be lifting a finger to help/save the glee gang.
Sorry. Won't be lifting a finger to help/save the glee gang.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 11:43 AM (4Hf9E)
533
I lived on hamburger and Kraft Mac and Cheese (and beer) my first year in my own.
Then I decided that I needed some variety, and so just began to scratch cook very creative meals based on whatever caught my eye at the grocery store.
Now I'm a great cook whose claim to fame is that instead of going out with her friends in her Sweet Sixteen birthday to a fancy restaurant, Eldest Daughter just wanted to stay home with her two best friends and have me cook a big dinner for them, which she later posted on Facebook.
That makes my eyes mist up.
Then I decided that I needed some variety, and so just began to scratch cook very creative meals based on whatever caught my eye at the grocery store.
Now I'm a great cook whose claim to fame is that instead of going out with her friends in her Sweet Sixteen birthday to a fancy restaurant, Eldest Daughter just wanted to stay home with her two best friends and have me cook a big dinner for them, which she later posted on Facebook.
That makes my eyes mist up.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 28, 2016 11:43 AM (QWtgr)
Posted by: mindful webworker - just keeding at March 28, 2016 11:44 AM (6hZFv)
535
Churches will be sued/forced to officiate same sex weddings, religious institutions will be forced to hire openly gay teachers, maybe even clergy. Who know what else. That's the problem, we always believed that it was enough to live and let live.
Posted by: Lizzy
That's a hill to die on, and I mean that literally.
I do think though it's much different than the "baker" analogy where a public business doesn't want to sell to certain customers.
If a Muslim owner refused to sell wedding cakes to Jews, I think most conservatives would say they're not eager to make sure the Muslim baker is allowed to continue to do that.
Posted by: Lizzy
That's a hill to die on, and I mean that literally.
I do think though it's much different than the "baker" analogy where a public business doesn't want to sell to certain customers.
If a Muslim owner refused to sell wedding cakes to Jews, I think most conservatives would say they're not eager to make sure the Muslim baker is allowed to continue to do that.
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:44 AM (+9uBk)
536
OT-Prayer request
My friend's furry family member (Her cat ) was diagnosed with cancer. They are taking "Ben" to be put to sleep in about ten minutes. Could you please pray for she and her husband?. It's such a hard thing, as many of you know, even if you don't want the pet to suffer.
Thx. very much
My friend's furry family member (Her cat ) was diagnosed with cancer. They are taking "Ben" to be put to sleep in about ten minutes. Could you please pray for she and her husband?. It's such a hard thing, as many of you know, even if you don't want the pet to suffer.
Thx. very much
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 11:44 AM (w4NZ8)
537
Back in 2014, after 4 Jews were killed in Belgium, Belgian soldiers were posted at the site of the massacre with no bullets in their guns according to Daniel Greenfield, writing at Front Page Mag:
http://tinyurl.com/h73ha9e
They pretend to guard us, and we pretend we're safe.
*with a nod towards the TSA, and apologies for my corruption of the old USSR saying about work and pay*
http://tinyurl.com/h73ha9e
They pretend to guard us, and we pretend we're safe.
*with a nod towards the TSA, and apologies for my corruption of the old USSR saying about work and pay*
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 28, 2016 11:44 AM (gyKtp)
538
Aw Sharkman, that's lovely. What a great daughter you have. I'll bet it was an awesome dinner.
Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2016 11:44 AM (2WwbN)
539
How long does this Zombie reign continue? When do we start back on werewolves and vampires?
--
There's a social theory that says that the prevalence of zombies and vampires in pop culture is related to which political ideology is "dominant" at the time. The theory goes that the two genres represent what one party fears/dislikes about the other party's base. Zombies are big when democrats are in charge. They represent the mindless consumers that can't be reasoned with. Vampires gain popularity when the republican party is in charge. They represent immoral behavior, sexual deviancy, etc.
Or so the theory goes at least.
--
There's a social theory that says that the prevalence of zombies and vampires in pop culture is related to which political ideology is "dominant" at the time. The theory goes that the two genres represent what one party fears/dislikes about the other party's base. Zombies are big when democrats are in charge. They represent the mindless consumers that can't be reasoned with. Vampires gain popularity when the republican party is in charge. They represent immoral behavior, sexual deviancy, etc.
Or so the theory goes at least.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 28, 2016 11:45 AM (KUaJL)
540
There is actually a reference in the novel World War Z to millions of zombies spending years walking along the ocean floor to get to other continents. That's where the suspension of disbelief fell away forever for me.
Gilligan's Island robot could do it.
There is actually a reference in the novel World War Z to millions of zombies spending years walking along the ocean floor to get to other continents. That's where the suspension of disbelief fell away forever for me.
Gilligan's Island robot could do it.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 28, 2016 11:45 AM (FkBIv)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 28, 2016 11:45 AM (A/3fN)
542
>>You have those of us who live in the real world and analyze intentions based on what activist groups say and try to do
The worst part was that some of them were very open about the true goals - that they didn't really want marriage, they just wanted to destroy the whole concept of marriage by making it apply to any kind of union imaginable. There were activists admitting this well over a decade ago - and yet we still have the MSM and Lefty leaders telling us it's about love and tolerance.
The worst part was that some of them were very open about the true goals - that they didn't really want marriage, they just wanted to destroy the whole concept of marriage by making it apply to any kind of union imaginable. There were activists admitting this well over a decade ago - and yet we still have the MSM and Lefty leaders telling us it's about love and tolerance.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2016 11:45 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2016 11:45 AM (w4NZ8)
544
You got it FS, the pain in our house is still there when only one pup runs to meet us.
Posted by: IP at March 28, 2016 11:45 AM (aQQbl)
545
Okay, really am going to the bank now and Fenelon, will pray for your friend and her husband. Losing a pet is hard.
Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2016 11:46 AM (2WwbN)
546
>>Zombies are big when democrats are in charge. They represent the mindless consumers that can't be reasoned with. Vampires gain popularity when the republican party is in charge. They represent immoral behavior, sexual deviancy, etc.
Or so the theory goes at least.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously
Funny, since they're both the living dead.
Or so the theory goes at least.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously
Funny, since they're both the living dead.
Posted by: Sphynx at March 28, 2016 11:47 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 28, 2016 11:47 AM (/D5Lf)
548
I'm wondering if we will be allowed to decline an invitation to a gay wedding without a valid emergency or note from a doctor. Not buying a gift will be be construed as homophobic and your career will be destroyed.
Posted by: Ripley at March 28, 2016 11:47 AM (1BQGO)
549
The worst part was that some of them were very open about the true goals - that they didn't really want marriage, they just wanted to destroy the whole concept of marriage by making it apply to any kind of union imaginable. There were activists admitting this well over a decade ago - and yet we still have the MSM and Lefty leaders telling us it's about love and tolerance.
Posted by: Lizzy
Gay marriage activists never won the public over, even in the most liberal states like California they couldn't win.
It was only through the Courts.
Somehow the judiciary needs to be reformed with conservative justices or we need a new Constitution.
The worst part was that some of them were very open about the true goals - that they didn't really want marriage, they just wanted to destroy the whole concept of marriage by making it apply to any kind of union imaginable. There were activists admitting this well over a decade ago - and yet we still have the MSM and Lefty leaders telling us it's about love and tolerance.
Posted by: Lizzy
Gay marriage activists never won the public over, even in the most liberal states like California they couldn't win.
It was only through the Courts.
Somehow the judiciary needs to be reformed with conservative justices or we need a new Constitution.
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:48 AM (+9uBk)
550
Wasn't the wedding cake issue about not participating in the wedding itself instead of not wanting to sell them the cake?
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 28, 2016 11:50 AM (Wckf4)
551
Short story: girl was wrong. Her dad's a dick too.
Posted by: some1 at March 28, 2016 11:23 AM (S5LAZ)
Pretty much my take on it after getting all the facts.
It does show that the teacher could have understood the material better, because he should be able to explain there is an implicit assumption in the problem that she was violating. (9^9^9 is 5 digits, 2 from the 2 operators)
Posted by: some1 at March 28, 2016 11:23 AM (S5LAZ)
Pretty much my take on it after getting all the facts.
It does show that the teacher could have understood the material better, because he should be able to explain there is an implicit assumption in the problem that she was violating. (9^9^9 is 5 digits, 2 from the 2 operators)
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 28, 2016 11:51 AM (1D4Ef)
552
>>I'm wondering if we will be allowed to decline an invitation to a gay wedding....
Heh, you should read AoSHQ regular Lauren's short story, "Just Another Oppressor" (at Amazon).
Heh, you should read AoSHQ regular Lauren's short story, "Just Another Oppressor" (at Amazon).
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2016 11:52 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 28, 2016 11:52 AM (gyKtp)
554
I made Thai Salmon Curry and Lobster Mashed Potatoes with Green Beans and Pearl Onions sauteed in garlic, butter and cilantro.
I still drool when I think of that meal.
I still drool when I think of that meal.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 28, 2016 11:52 AM (QWtgr)
555
Positive Karma out for the kitty family. I have put down many animals myself and it always is sad, even when it is a gift for them.
Positive Karma out for the kitty family. I have put down many animals myself and it always is sad, even when it is a gift for them.
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 28, 2016 11:52 AM (KId5h)
556
551 Wasn't the wedding cake issue about not participating in the wedding itself instead of not wanting to sell them the cake?
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 28, 2016 11:50 AM (Wckf4)
There may be multiple incidents.
In this Colorado one the owner refused to sell the cake.
https://tinyurl.com/myuradb
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 28, 2016 11:50 AM (Wckf4)
There may be multiple incidents.
In this Colorado one the owner refused to sell the cake.
https://tinyurl.com/myuradb
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 28, 2016 11:53 AM (1D4Ef)
557
Remember when that guy Ace used to post on weekdays?
Wonder whatever happened to him.
--
He disappeared with Rula Lenska?
/aging myself
Wonder whatever happened to him.
--
He disappeared with Rula Lenska?
/aging myself
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at March 28, 2016 11:53 AM (pVkEV)
558
I can express an infinite amount of contempt with a single digit
*flips the bird*
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 28, 2016 11:52 AM (gyKtp)
_____________________________
I tried that once at a Trump rally,, it got shoved up my ass an broken off...
I can express an infinite amount of contempt with a single digit
*flips the bird*
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 28, 2016 11:52 AM (gyKtp)
_____________________________
I tried that once at a Trump rally,, it got shoved up my ass an broken off...
Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 28, 2016 11:54 AM (HSmrB)
559
>I'm wondering if we will be allowed to decline an invitation to a gay wedding....
Gay activists will over shoot, you can count on that.
My guess is the next big move will be to strip Churches of their tax exempt status that don't perform gay weddings.
Hillary's campaign was asked that exact question and they refused to answer.
Gay activists will over shoot, you can count on that.
My guess is the next big move will be to strip Churches of their tax exempt status that don't perform gay weddings.
Hillary's campaign was asked that exact question and they refused to answer.
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:54 AM (+9uBk)
560
>>Wasn't the wedding cake issue about not participating in the wedding itself instead of not wanting to sell them the cake?
Yes. For example, the florist in WA was sued by a long-time customer and friend. She declined the wedding business offer and referred the friend to another florist. In other cases it's clearly lawsuit shopping, where openly Christian businesses are contacted just so that they might decline the business and create the opportunity to sue.
Yes. For example, the florist in WA was sued by a long-time customer and friend. She declined the wedding business offer and referred the friend to another florist. In other cases it's clearly lawsuit shopping, where openly Christian businesses are contacted just so that they might decline the business and create the opportunity to sue.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2016 11:55 AM (NOIQH)
561
... but that Greek letter is pronounced "pee."
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 10:28 AM
You mean by, like, Greek Greeks?
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 10:28 AM
You mean by, like, Greek Greeks?
Posted by: Tappa Kegga Bru at March 28, 2016 11:56 AM (ml1PM)
562
Bandersnatch, onions would have involved cutting them up. I don't think he was prepared to invest that much effort.
Speaking of onions - over the weekend I was reading the novel Chicken Every Sunday by Rosemary Taylor. It's a memoir of her growing up in 1890s - 1920s Tucson, with a father who was constantly finding a new scheme to get rich quick with and a mother who, perforce, had to keep taking in boarders. It's a quaintly funny book, and I suppose I should do a little précis for the Sunday book thread.
Anyway, in one chapter, the family is cutting up onions for chili and are told by Mother to hold matches between their teeth while they do it, because the sulfur in the matches counteracts the tear-making properties of the onions.
Whether it really works, I don't know. I don't think modern matches - even wooden ones - have sulfur in them any more.
Bandersnatch, onions would have involved cutting them up. I don't think he was prepared to invest that much effort.
Speaking of onions - over the weekend I was reading the novel Chicken Every Sunday by Rosemary Taylor. It's a memoir of her growing up in 1890s - 1920s Tucson, with a father who was constantly finding a new scheme to get rich quick with and a mother who, perforce, had to keep taking in boarders. It's a quaintly funny book, and I suppose I should do a little précis for the Sunday book thread.
Anyway, in one chapter, the family is cutting up onions for chili and are told by Mother to hold matches between their teeth while they do it, because the sulfur in the matches counteracts the tear-making properties of the onions.
Whether it really works, I don't know. I don't think modern matches - even wooden ones - have sulfur in them any more.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2016 11:56 AM (X6fMO)
563
In other cases it's clearly lawsuit shopping, where openly Christian businesses are contacted just so that they might decline the business and create the opportunity to sue.
Crowder has a video exploring the possibility of Muslim bakers providing gay wedding cakes ...
Crowder has a video exploring the possibility of Muslim bakers providing gay wedding cakes ...
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 28, 2016 11:56 AM (1D4Ef)
564
My guess is the next big move will be to strip Churches of their tax exempt status that don't perform gay weddings.
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:54 AM (+9uBk)
Oh, but that will *never* happen. We we assured of this by the SCOTUS majority in the Obergefell decision that this ruling would not be harmful to churches in any way, and therefore there is nothing to worry about.
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:54 AM (+9uBk)
Oh, but that will *never* happen. We we assured of this by the SCOTUS majority in the Obergefell decision that this ruling would not be harmful to churches in any way, and therefore there is nothing to worry about.
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 28, 2016 11:57 AM (9hP7/)
565
You mean by, like, Greek Greeks?
Posted by: Tappa Kegga Bru at March 28, 2016 11:56 AM (ml1PM)
Yes son, Greek Greeks... Now you and your brothers go back to sleep.
Posted by: Tappa Kegga Bru at March 28, 2016 11:56 AM (ml1PM)
Yes son, Greek Greeks... Now you and your brothers go back to sleep.
Posted by: IP at March 28, 2016 11:57 AM (aQQbl)
566
The answer: Yes, but that's not the point ...
Posted by: BumperStickerist at March 28, 2016 11:42 AM (8Q1Gy)
________
I can just see what when on in that classroom. One of the kids had their feeling hurt and cried to the teacher. "Mr Z," as he was known because it's asking way, way too much to require anyone to correctly pronounce the teacher's Polish surname, "Bump won't listen to my idea!"
Am I right? Am I close? One of the points, of course, being that society caters to the tattle-tale.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at March 28, 2016 11:42 AM (8Q1Gy)
________
I can just see what when on in that classroom. One of the kids had their feeling hurt and cried to the teacher. "Mr Z," as he was known because it's asking way, way too much to require anyone to correctly pronounce the teacher's Polish surname, "Bump won't listen to my idea!"
Am I right? Am I close? One of the points, of course, being that society caters to the tattle-tale.
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 11:57 AM (kQ5yx)
567
At the same time, how stupid are these people to say "No, I'm not selling you a cake because you're gay couple"
And frankly, I don't know what religion forbids people to sell to "sinners".
I'm just done watching this issue fail over and over again. We saw
it in Indiana, and it absolutely destroyed the Governor and now in GA as
well.
Some people want to fall on their sword, but I'd like to focus on winning issues rather than handing Democrats these victories.
in the meantime, if you're a business owner and working with anyone
gay is against everything you stand for, better find creative ways
rather than saying you're refusing service over sexual orientation
unless you want to spend a lot of money on legal bills
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:34 AM (+9uBk)
Swingline... please learn about an issue before you opine. Homosexuality is a sin and homosexual marriage is a bastardization of the sacrament of marriage. Bakers (and photographers and florists) who refuse to take part in such ceremonies are not just saying "No, I'm not selling you a cake because you're gay couple". They are saying, "I refuse to take part in a celebration of sin that is also blasphemous".
Just because you adhere to no moral absolutes or religious tenets does not mean in a free society that all people should be similarly constrained.
And frankly, I don't know what religion forbids people to sell to "sinners".
I'm just done watching this issue fail over and over again. We saw
it in Indiana, and it absolutely destroyed the Governor and now in GA as
well.
Some people want to fall on their sword, but I'd like to focus on winning issues rather than handing Democrats these victories.
in the meantime, if you're a business owner and working with anyone
gay is against everything you stand for, better find creative ways
rather than saying you're refusing service over sexual orientation
unless you want to spend a lot of money on legal bills
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:34 AM (+9uBk)
Swingline... please learn about an issue before you opine. Homosexuality is a sin and homosexual marriage is a bastardization of the sacrament of marriage. Bakers (and photographers and florists) who refuse to take part in such ceremonies are not just saying "No, I'm not selling you a cake because you're gay couple". They are saying, "I refuse to take part in a celebration of sin that is also blasphemous".
Just because you adhere to no moral absolutes or religious tenets does not mean in a free society that all people should be similarly constrained.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 11:58 AM (NPofj)
568
543 Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2016 11:45 AM (NOIQH)
Like several of our gay/lesbian posters used to point out:
"I'm old enough to remember when the LBGT community said gay marriage was an attack on them forcing them to conform to Cis ideals on couples."
Too many on the right are convinced that the boot stamping on humanity's face forever we are building towards is hunky dory so long as it is attacking Julia and not themselves.
Like several of our gay/lesbian posters used to point out:
"I'm old enough to remember when the LBGT community said gay marriage was an attack on them forcing them to conform to Cis ideals on couples."
Too many on the right are convinced that the boot stamping on humanity's face forever we are building towards is hunky dory so long as it is attacking Julia and not themselves.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 11:58 AM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot, 'Who Decides?' at March 28, 2016 11:59 AM (BK3ZS)
570
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2016 11:56 AM (X6fMO)
That is a great book. It portrays turn-of-the-20th-century Phoenix, AZ as a wild, untamed place where you could do almost anything and make money.
That is a great book. It portrays turn-of-the-20th-century Phoenix, AZ as a wild, untamed place where you could do almost anything and make money.
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 28, 2016 11:59 AM (9hP7/)
571
Unrelated: My Pandora keeps playing Gordon Lightfoot. I didn't ask for Gordon Lightfoot but I keep thumb-upping his songs.
Posted by: FireHorse at March 28, 2016 11:59 AM (kQ5yx)
572
Yes. For example, the florist in WA was sued by a long-time customer and friend. She declined the wedding business offer and referred the friend to another florist. In other cases it's clearly lawsuit shopping, where openly Christian businesses are contacted just so that they might decline the business and create the opportunity to sue.
Posted by: Lizzy
I really think laws to address this are ineffective, but if this is a thing social conservatives want to keep trying, they need to make it specific.
So call it the "baker" law and say it's specific to wedding vendors being able to abstain from any part of the ceremony.
The way the GA law was written was basically any owner could say they had a religious objection to homosexuality and deny them service or a hire someone that was gay. It was not limited to Churches.
Posted by: Lizzy
I really think laws to address this are ineffective, but if this is a thing social conservatives want to keep trying, they need to make it specific.
So call it the "baker" law and say it's specific to wedding vendors being able to abstain from any part of the ceremony.
The way the GA law was written was basically any owner could say they had a religious objection to homosexuality and deny them service or a hire someone that was gay. It was not limited to Churches.
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:59 AM (+9uBk)
573
(9^9^9 is 5 digits, 2 from the 2 operators)
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster
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The carets are used only because it is difficult to show superscripts in text. In normal written depiction, there would be no carets, just '"9", superscripted "9", superscripted "9".
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster
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The carets are used only because it is difficult to show superscripts in text. In normal written depiction, there would be no carets, just '"9", superscripted "9", superscripted "9".
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2016 12:01 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 12:01 PM (+9uBk)
575
I don't think modern matches - even wooden ones - have sulfur in them any more.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2016 11:56 AM
P'tosh. Why, then, would large numbers of people around me keep saying they smell sulphur?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2016 11:56 AM
P'tosh. Why, then, would large numbers of people around me keep saying they smell sulphur?
Posted by: Hillary! at March 28, 2016 12:01 PM (ml1PM)
576
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9 !
_ _ ^
9 !
_ _ ^
9 !
(An infinite # of 9's followed by an infinite # of factorials raised to the power of ....)
9 !
_ _ ^
9 !
_ _ ^
9 !
(An infinite # of 9's followed by an infinite # of factorials raised to the power of ....)
Posted by: Eric at March 28, 2016 12:02 PM (C29yI)
577
573 Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:59 AM (+9uBk)
It turns out Barry Goldwater was prescient when he said at some point the Civil Rights movement would use activism to destroy the ability to engage in commerce while having a personal conscience...
well correction Disney et al get to have consciences and refuse(in theory) to engage in commerce....
just not anyone that disagrees with the left on anything.
It turns out Barry Goldwater was prescient when he said at some point the Civil Rights movement would use activism to destroy the ability to engage in commerce while having a personal conscience...
well correction Disney et al get to have consciences and refuse(in theory) to engage in commerce....
just not anyone that disagrees with the left on anything.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 12:02 PM (g8Hfr)
578
Just because you adhere to no moral absolutes or religious tenets does not mean in a free society that all people should be similarly constrained.
Posted by: redbanzai
We do not live in a free society. In a free society you would be free to do business or not do business with whomever you wish.
Just because you adhere to no moral absolutes or religious tenets does not mean in a free society that all people should be similarly constrained.
Posted by: redbanzai
We do not live in a free society. In a free society you would be free to do business or not do business with whomever you wish.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 28, 2016 12:03 PM (FkBIv)
579
P'tosh. Why, then, would large numbers of people around me keep saying they smell sulphur?
Posted by: Hillary! at March 28, 2016 12:01 PM (ml1PM)
_______________________
OMG Hillary!,,, you've been to a Trump rally too???????
P'tosh. Why, then, would large numbers of people around me keep saying they smell sulphur?
Posted by: Hillary! at March 28, 2016 12:01 PM (ml1PM)
_______________________
OMG Hillary!,,, you've been to a Trump rally too???????
Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 28, 2016 12:03 PM (HSmrB)
580
I can express an infinite amount of contempt with a single digit
*flips the bird*
Posted by: GnuBreed
THREADWINNER!
*flips the bird*
Posted by: GnuBreed
THREADWINNER!
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 12:04 PM (4Hf9E)
581
stolen from the ONT comments:
222 A USMC sniper was real good at his job, and he had a method. He would yell out some insult at the enemy and when someone stood up to reply, BANG - one less insurgent!
After every mission, the company commander would ask "How many insurgents have you shot today?"
However, on this particular day when asked about the number killed, he reported, "Five killed and I let one go, sir."
"Let one go?" roared the company commander. "What do you mean, you let one go?"
"Well, sir, I yelled out 'Osama is a Homo!' Then this big insurgent stood up and yelled 'Hillary is a Bitch!' I just couldn't shoot a fellow Republican!"
Posted by: rooked at March 28, 2016 12:35 AM (sahRb)
222 A USMC sniper was real good at his job, and he had a method. He would yell out some insult at the enemy and when someone stood up to reply, BANG - one less insurgent!
After every mission, the company commander would ask "How many insurgents have you shot today?"
However, on this particular day when asked about the number killed, he reported, "Five killed and I let one go, sir."
"Let one go?" roared the company commander. "What do you mean, you let one go?"
"Well, sir, I yelled out 'Osama is a Homo!' Then this big insurgent stood up and yelled 'Hillary is a Bitch!' I just couldn't shoot a fellow Republican!"
Posted by: rooked at March 28, 2016 12:35 AM (sahRb)
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 28, 2016 12:04 PM (gyKtp)
Posted by: Eric at March 28, 2016 12:04 PM (C29yI)
583
My guess is the next big move will be to strip Churches of their tax exempt status that don't perform gay weddings.
And I predict that, when the push begins, that mincing queen Dolan will be the first to profane St. Patrick's cathedral in NYC, grinning like the useful idiot he is over a "wonderful" and "inclusive" and "message of love" gay wedding.
As Hans and Franz would say, "hear me now and believe me later."
My guess is the next big move will be to strip Churches of their tax exempt status that don't perform gay weddings.
And I predict that, when the push begins, that mincing queen Dolan will be the first to profane St. Patrick's cathedral in NYC, grinning like the useful idiot he is over a "wonderful" and "inclusive" and "message of love" gay wedding.
As Hans and Franz would say, "hear me now and believe me later."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2016 12:05 PM (X6fMO)
584
Assuming mathematical operators count as digits, my HP 42S says....9e9
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 28, 2016 12:05 PM (Pw6wN)
585
Echoing the poster who brought up Knuth's up arrow notation.
Answer can be arbitrarily large as you want.
This is a stupid "gotcha" question.
Answer can be arbitrarily large as you want.
This is a stupid "gotcha" question.
Posted by: fb at March 28, 2016 12:05 PM (JVEmw)
586
It turns out Barry Goldwater was prescient when he said at some point the Civil Rights movement would use activism to destroy the ability to engage in commerce while having a personal conscience...
well correction Disney et al get to have consciences and refuse(in theory) to engage in commerce....
just not anyone that disagrees with the left on anything.
Posted by: sven10077
He was right, it was a principled stand and he lost 44 states.
Goldwater was not a racist, but it sure got painted that way.
well correction Disney et al get to have consciences and refuse(in theory) to engage in commerce....
just not anyone that disagrees with the left on anything.
Posted by: sven10077
He was right, it was a principled stand and he lost 44 states.
Goldwater was not a racist, but it sure got painted that way.
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 12:05 PM (+9uBk)
587
579 Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 28, 2016 12:03 PM (FkBIv)
The matter of whether or not we were a free society was resolved evidently when I was negative 3 or so...
The left are just a lot more honest about how many people they wish to destroy with weaponized law these days.
The matter of whether or not we were a free society was resolved evidently when I was negative 3 or so...
The left are just a lot more honest about how many people they wish to destroy with weaponized law these days.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 12:05 PM (g8Hfr)
588
The way the GA law was written was basically any owner could say they had a religious objection to homosexuality and deny them service or a hire someone that was gay. It was not limited to Churches.
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:59 AM (+9uBk)
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I see nothing wrong with this.
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:59 AM (+9uBk)
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I see nothing wrong with this.
Posted by: Soona at March 28, 2016 12:06 PM (Fmupd)
589
587 Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 12:05 PM (+9uBk)
As I said before the trip I just took, "I'd like to think it will take the United States less than the 72 years it took Russia to tell the collectivist society wreckers 'go fuck yourselves' but I suspect it'll take us longer."
As I said before the trip I just took, "I'd like to think it will take the United States less than the 72 years it took Russia to tell the collectivist society wreckers 'go fuck yourselves' but I suspect it'll take us longer."
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 12:07 PM (g8Hfr)
590
That's a hill to die on, and I mean that literally.
I do think though it's much different than the "baker" analogy
where a public business doesn't want to sell to certain customers.
If a Muslim owner refused to sell wedding cakes to Jews, I think
most conservatives would say they're not eager to make sure the Muslim
baker is allowed to continue to do that.
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:44 AM (+9uBk)
An actual conservative would say that is none of the government's freaking business who a businessman sells to or refuses to sell to and why, that a businessman who is turning away business for stupid reasons is cutting off his own nose to spite his face (but that he is perfectly free to do that) and that people so turned away are perfectly free to start a competing business to offer services to any people they like.
That's a hill to die on, and I mean that literally.
I do think though it's much different than the "baker" analogy
where a public business doesn't want to sell to certain customers.
If a Muslim owner refused to sell wedding cakes to Jews, I think
most conservatives would say they're not eager to make sure the Muslim
baker is allowed to continue to do that.
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:44 AM (+9uBk)
An actual conservative would say that is none of the government's freaking business who a businessman sells to or refuses to sell to and why, that a businessman who is turning away business for stupid reasons is cutting off his own nose to spite his face (but that he is perfectly free to do that) and that people so turned away are perfectly free to start a competing business to offer services to any people they like.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 12:07 PM (NPofj)
591
The "bake a cake" thing is the tip of the spear to drive religion from the public square. "Yes you can be religious but keep it to yourself and do it in private, FFS." Unless you're with a non-traditional religion that needs to be accommodated.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 28, 2016 12:07 PM (r1fLd)
592
>>I really think laws to address this are ineffective, but if this is a
thing social conservatives want to keep trying, they need to make it
specific.
Not a social conservative thing, it's a religious freedom thing.
Just like he Little Sisters of the Poor wanting to disregard Obama's HHS contraceptive mandate, this is about stopping the government forcing citizens to do things that violate their religious beliefs. If you can't see the difference between that concept vs. religious people wanting laws to stop other people from doing what they believe is a sin then it's pointless.
Also, I am so very sick of this topic.
thing social conservatives want to keep trying, they need to make it
specific.
Not a social conservative thing, it's a religious freedom thing.
Just like he Little Sisters of the Poor wanting to disregard Obama's HHS contraceptive mandate, this is about stopping the government forcing citizens to do things that violate their religious beliefs. If you can't see the difference between that concept vs. religious people wanting laws to stop other people from doing what they believe is a sin then it's pointless.
Also, I am so very sick of this topic.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2016 12:07 PM (NOIQH)
593
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 28, 2016 11:59 AM (9hP7/)
Ah, well, there's the book thread host now!
I liked the book; it had been sitting on the shelf for a couple of years, but I finally got around to it this weekend. It was adapted to a play and then a 1949 movie starring Dan Dailey and Celeste Holm, which was a pale shadow of the book itself.
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 28, 2016 11:59 AM (9hP7/)
Ah, well, there's the book thread host now!
I liked the book; it had been sitting on the shelf for a couple of years, but I finally got around to it this weekend. It was adapted to a play and then a 1949 movie starring Dan Dailey and Celeste Holm, which was a pale shadow of the book itself.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2016 12:09 PM (X6fMO)
594
593 The "bake a cake" thing is the tip of the spear to drive religion from the public square. "Yes you can be religious but keep it to yourself and do it in private, FFS."
Unless you're with a non-traditional religion that needs to be accommodated.
When they start tossing gays off rooftops? Don't fucking say a word to me. Don't care.
Unless you're with a non-traditional religion that needs to be accommodated.
When they start tossing gays off rooftops? Don't fucking say a word to me. Don't care.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 12:09 PM (4Hf9E)
595
592 Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 12:07 PM (NPofj)
Quite, of course soon we'll be regaled that the libertarian position REALLY is that an all powerful judiciary and business sector are totally justified in inflicting economic sanction on a person for following their conscience.
Quite, of course soon we'll be regaled that the libertarian position REALLY is that an all powerful judiciary and business sector are totally justified in inflicting economic sanction on a person for following their conscience.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 12:09 PM (g8Hfr)
596
593 Posted by: Ignoramus at March 28, 2016 12:07 PM (r1fLd)
Just one religion must be driven from the public square.
Islam will get to march proudly.
Square that circle.
Just one religion must be driven from the public square.
Islam will get to march proudly.
Square that circle.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 12:10 PM (g8Hfr)
597
Swingline... please learn about an issue before you opine. Homosexuality is a sin and homosexual marriage is a bastardization of the sacrament of marriage.
Oh, right. Your interpretation of the Sky God is "learning about issues".
Argument is argument. Cant is cant.
Oh, right. Your interpretation of the Sky God is "learning about issues".
Argument is argument. Cant is cant.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:11 PM (1xUj/)
598
596 Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 12:09 PM (4Hf9E)
I'll be silent, of course I'll pray for the "It's Raining Men" extras...
thing is the Glee Gang will make sure I can only pray in private so it may be a bit.
I'll be silent, of course I'll pray for the "It's Raining Men" extras...
thing is the Glee Gang will make sure I can only pray in private so it may be a bit.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 12:11 PM (g8Hfr)
599
The way the GA law was written was basically any owner could say they had a religious objection to homosexuality and deny them service or a hire someone that was gay. It was not limited to Churches.
Posted by: Swingline
1. A muslim bakery DID refuse to bake a gay wedding cake, and it was taped. (Steve Crowder).
2.It's not supposed to be limited to churches..
3. We didn't "pick this hill to die on". The definition of marriage wasn't changed by us, the right to refuse over this wasn't started by us. These are all challenges which were started by the other side.
Posted by: Swingline
1. A muslim bakery DID refuse to bake a gay wedding cake, and it was taped. (Steve Crowder).
2.It's not supposed to be limited to churches..
3. We didn't "pick this hill to die on". The definition of marriage wasn't changed by us, the right to refuse over this wasn't started by us. These are all challenges which were started by the other side.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 28, 2016 12:12 PM (326rv)
600
Also, I am so very sick of this topic.
Posted by: Lizzy
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The great success on the part of the left, has been the injection of politics into every aspect of our lives.
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"Strelnikov: The private life is dead - for a man with any manhood.
Zhivago: I saw some of your 'manhood' on the way at a place called Mink.
Strelnikov: They were selling horses to the Whites.
Zhivago: It seems you've burnt the wrong village.
Strelnikov: They always say that, and what does it matter? The village is burned, the point made.
Zhivago: Your point - their village. "
Posted by: Lizzy
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The great success on the part of the left, has been the injection of politics into every aspect of our lives.
---
"Strelnikov: The private life is dead - for a man with any manhood.
Zhivago: I saw some of your 'manhood' on the way at a place called Mink.
Strelnikov: They were selling horses to the Whites.
Zhivago: It seems you've burnt the wrong village.
Strelnikov: They always say that, and what does it matter? The village is burned, the point made.
Zhivago: Your point - their village. "
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2016 12:12 PM (9mTYi)
601
An actual conservative would say that is none of the government's freaking business who a businessman sells to or refuses to sell to and why, that a businessman who is turning away business for stupid reasons is cutting off his own nose to spite his face (but that he is perfectly free to do that) and that people so turned away are perfectly free to start a competing business to offer services to any people they like.
Posted by: redbanzai
But that's not how the law has worked since the 1960's
You also can't have a sign in front of your store that says "No Coloreds Allowed"
We can argue if that's "just" for eternity but that's how the law has worked for a long time.
People are acting like this is the first time a business owner has been forced to do something like this.
My ideal world would be if someone doesn't want to do business with you for any reason, they should be allowed to do so. If a black barber shop doesn't want to cut white people's hair, so be it, etc
Posted by: redbanzai
But that's not how the law has worked since the 1960's
You also can't have a sign in front of your store that says "No Coloreds Allowed"
We can argue if that's "just" for eternity but that's how the law has worked for a long time.
People are acting like this is the first time a business owner has been forced to do something like this.
My ideal world would be if someone doesn't want to do business with you for any reason, they should be allowed to do so. If a black barber shop doesn't want to cut white people's hair, so be it, etc
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 12:12 PM (+9uBk)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 28, 2016 12:12 PM (1ijHg)
603
I wasn't a math major, but I don't think operators constitute "digits" per se.
Posted by: Mister Christopher (in Atlanta!) at March 28, 2016 12:13 PM (SLJ40)
604
594 Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2016 12:07 PM (NOIQH)
Lizzy you may be tired of the topic but I assure you the topic will never tire of you.
I m so thrilled with where we are headed as a society that when the fall goes down as I am certain it will I am about 90% likely to pull the plug on internet completely.
Lizzy you may be tired of the topic but I assure you the topic will never tire of you.
I m so thrilled with where we are headed as a society that when the fall goes down as I am certain it will I am about 90% likely to pull the plug on internet completely.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 12:13 PM (g8Hfr)
605
Think about the fights over Bible study groups after school. Now try and reconcile that with arrangements for mohammadans to pray on school grounds during school hours.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 28, 2016 12:13 PM (326rv)
606
The way the GA law was written was basically any
owner could say they had a religious objection to homosexuality and deny
them service or a hire someone that was gay. It was not limited to
Churches.
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:59 AM (+9uBk)
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I see nothing wrong with this.
Posted by: Soona at March 28, 2016 12:06 PM (Fmupd)
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What knd of 'religious objections' are allowed by the all-powerful state? Only Muslims or Satanists or Baptists or Catholics? How about if they ask how often you attend church? Is it an approved church? What are the contents of your pastor's sermons?
That is why it is the hill to die on.
owner could say they had a religious objection to homosexuality and deny
them service or a hire someone that was gay. It was not limited to
Churches.
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 11:59 AM (+9uBk)
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I see nothing wrong with this.
Posted by: Soona at March 28, 2016 12:06 PM (Fmupd)
_________
What knd of 'religious objections' are allowed by the all-powerful state? Only Muslims or Satanists or Baptists or Catholics? How about if they ask how often you attend church? Is it an approved church? What are the contents of your pastor's sermons?
That is why it is the hill to die on.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 28, 2016 12:13 PM (MIKMs)
607
Swingline... please learn about an issue before
you opine. Homosexuality is a sin and homosexual marriage is a
bastardization of the sacrament of marriage.
Oh, right. Your interpretation of the Sky God is "learning about issues".
Argument is argument. Cant is cant.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:11 PM (1xUj/)
It is plain face language in the Bible... both the sinfulness of homosexual sex and a description of the sacrament of marriage are right there for you to read if you choose.
you opine. Homosexuality is a sin and homosexual marriage is a
bastardization of the sacrament of marriage.
Oh, right. Your interpretation of the Sky God is "learning about issues".
Argument is argument. Cant is cant.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:11 PM (1xUj/)
It is plain face language in the Bible... both the sinfulness of homosexual sex and a description of the sacrament of marriage are right there for you to read if you choose.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 12:13 PM (NPofj)
608
in the old days, when men tied onions to their belts, there were no education majors
Posted by: phreshone at March 28, 2016 12:14 PM (12kBq)
609
601 Posted by: Blue Hen at March 28, 2016 12:12 PM (326rv)
MUSLIM bakers are allowed to have consciences b/c to limit their beautiful faith would be "rayciss."
So evidently Islam's "Imaginary Sky God" gets preferential and deferential treatment.
MUSLIM bakers are allowed to have consciences b/c to limit their beautiful faith would be "rayciss."
So evidently Islam's "Imaginary Sky God" gets preferential and deferential treatment.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 12:15 PM (g8Hfr)
610
1. A muslim bakery DID refuse to bake a gay wedding cake, and it was taped. (Steve Crowder).
2.It's not supposed to be limited to churches..
3. We didn't "pick this hill to die on". The definition of marriage wasn't changed by us, the right to refuse over this wasn't started by us. These are all challenges which were started by the other side.
Posted by: Blue Hen
I'm going off of what was relayed to me, that it wasn't limited to Churches or religious institutions.
This is from Hotair
"Even those questions don't get to the heart of the problem here, though. This laws speaks of allowing such entities to refuse to hire or to terminate employees whose "religious beliefs or practices or lack of either are not in accord with the faith-based organization's sincerely held religious belief." There's a difference between being forced to participate in the marriage ceremony of a gay couple and simply allowing a gay individual (or even a straight one who openly supports such things) to work at your place of business. That crosses the line from protecting your own religious liberty to discriminating against someone else's."
2.It's not supposed to be limited to churches..
3. We didn't "pick this hill to die on". The definition of marriage wasn't changed by us, the right to refuse over this wasn't started by us. These are all challenges which were started by the other side.
Posted by: Blue Hen
I'm going off of what was relayed to me, that it wasn't limited to Churches or religious institutions.
This is from Hotair
"Even those questions don't get to the heart of the problem here, though. This laws speaks of allowing such entities to refuse to hire or to terminate employees whose "religious beliefs or practices or lack of either are not in accord with the faith-based organization's sincerely held religious belief." There's a difference between being forced to participate in the marriage ceremony of a gay couple and simply allowing a gay individual (or even a straight one who openly supports such things) to work at your place of business. That crosses the line from protecting your own religious liberty to discriminating against someone else's."
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 12:15 PM (+9uBk)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:15 PM (1xUj/)
612
in the old days, when men tied onions to their belts, there were no education majors
Wait! We stopped doing that?
Wait! We stopped doing that?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 12:16 PM (4Hf9E)
613
So evidently Islam's "Imaginary Sky God" gets preferential and deferential treatment.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 12:15 PM (g8Hfr)
Allah gets all head-choppy when he's vexed.
So evidently Islam's "Imaginary Sky God" gets preferential and deferential treatment.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 12:15 PM (g8Hfr)
Allah gets all head-choppy when he's vexed.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet's Prices Trump The Harangue Hut's! at March 28, 2016 12:16 PM (hLRSq)
614
Oh, right. Your interpretation of the Sky God is "learning about issues".
Argument is argument. Cant is cant.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
Yupper.
And the Little Sisters of the Poor and their interpretation are told to go to Hell.
While the religion of peace (including the Nation of Islam snd that muslim bakery) are treated in entirely different maner.
Argument is argument. Cant is cant.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
Yupper.
And the Little Sisters of the Poor and their interpretation are told to go to Hell.
While the religion of peace (including the Nation of Islam snd that muslim bakery) are treated in entirely different maner.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 28, 2016 12:16 PM (326rv)
615
The great success on the part of the left, has been the injection of politics into every aspect of our lives.
Testify, brother. It also explains why, as much as we might envy the clueless, lo-fo mofo LIVs, we on the right can't indulge in that luxury. If we ignore politics, we find that, little by little and then in great leaps, our freedom has been constricted. The LIVs don't have that problem, since every expansion of the bloated, corrupt cuttlefish of the federal government means more free shit for them. Who wants "liberty" so long as you've got a full belly, high-speed porn and 24/7 sports teevee?
The great success on the part of the left, has been the injection of politics into every aspect of our lives.
Testify, brother. It also explains why, as much as we might envy the clueless, lo-fo mofo LIVs, we on the right can't indulge in that luxury. If we ignore politics, we find that, little by little and then in great leaps, our freedom has been constricted. The LIVs don't have that problem, since every expansion of the bloated, corrupt cuttlefish of the federal government means more free shit for them. Who wants "liberty" so long as you've got a full belly, high-speed porn and 24/7 sports teevee?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2016 12:16 PM (X6fMO)
616
Some Sky Gods are more equal than others.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 28, 2016 12:16 PM (FkBIv)
617
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 11:58 AM (NPofj)
Sincere question for you.
I was raised Catholic but am general agnostic now. I understand and respect the Christian belief that homosexuality is a sin and marriage is a sacrament.
As a kid, still a believer and in Catholic school, could never get my head around the equal treatment of marriage of a man and woman the sacrament and marriage by the State at a court house, or for that matter, marriage in a different church. It always seemed to me that the State/ legal aspects were entirely separate and distinct from the sacrament, to the point that I even asked once, as a kid, if people needed to get married twice (once in a church, once in a court) to check all the boxes.
It was also explained to me that while church (or other religious) marriages were generally recognized by the State the same was not always reciprocal, justifiably so IMO. For example, if you got hitched at the court house, you would not be married in the eyes of the church.
Under this reasoning, I could never understand why people are so opposed to gay marriage. Two people have gone to the court house, gotten a marriage certificate, spent the rest of their lives together, and the surviving spouse has been permitted civil legal rights along the way for centuries. The church didn't recognize it and they has no religious standing or benefit but the State aspects were separate.
Why is this different now?
Sincere question for you.
I was raised Catholic but am general agnostic now. I understand and respect the Christian belief that homosexuality is a sin and marriage is a sacrament.
As a kid, still a believer and in Catholic school, could never get my head around the equal treatment of marriage of a man and woman the sacrament and marriage by the State at a court house, or for that matter, marriage in a different church. It always seemed to me that the State/ legal aspects were entirely separate and distinct from the sacrament, to the point that I even asked once, as a kid, if people needed to get married twice (once in a church, once in a court) to check all the boxes.
It was also explained to me that while church (or other religious) marriages were generally recognized by the State the same was not always reciprocal, justifiably so IMO. For example, if you got hitched at the court house, you would not be married in the eyes of the church.
Under this reasoning, I could never understand why people are so opposed to gay marriage. Two people have gone to the court house, gotten a marriage certificate, spent the rest of their lives together, and the surviving spouse has been permitted civil legal rights along the way for centuries. The church didn't recognize it and they has no religious standing or benefit but the State aspects were separate.
Why is this different now?
Posted by: Damiano at March 28, 2016 12:17 PM (XItbt)
618
in the old days, when men tied onions to their belts, there were no education majors
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I will wait until I hear from Vic on this question.
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I will wait until I hear from Vic on this question.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2016 12:17 PM (9mTYi)
619
As someone pointed out above, 9^9^9 can be written with superscripts, so no other symbols are needed.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 28, 2016 12:17 PM (gyKtp)
620
That's a fine post CBD
Posted by: Herman Cain at March 28, 2016 12:17 PM (VoyQJ)
621
612 Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:15 PM (1xUj/)
I'll point at the inscription on SCotUS pertaining to "equal justice before the law"...
Islam gets a LOT of "no no you REALLY believe" exemptions from things "my Sky God's followers" get to lab or under.
As was pointed out upthread, Schools outlaw after school on campus Xian prayer groups on campus and then build Jihadi Jim prayer rooms for DURING school.
Either a is a or it is not.
If A is not A then expect injustice to reap a response.
I'll point at the inscription on SCotUS pertaining to "equal justice before the law"...
Islam gets a LOT of "no no you REALLY believe" exemptions from things "my Sky God's followers" get to lab or under.
As was pointed out upthread, Schools outlaw after school on campus Xian prayer groups on campus and then build Jihadi Jim prayer rooms for DURING school.
Either a is a or it is not.
If A is not A then expect injustice to reap a response.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 12:18 PM (g8Hfr)
622
m going off of what was relayed to me, that it wasn't limited to Churches or religious institutions.
Posted by: Swingline
What that particular law said or intended is kinda moot now. The reality is that muslims can deny service and Christian organizations can't.
And again, WE didn't start any of this shit.
Posted by: Swingline
What that particular law said or intended is kinda moot now. The reality is that muslims can deny service and Christian organizations can't.
And again, WE didn't start any of this shit.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 28, 2016 12:18 PM (326rv)
623
What knd of 'religious objections' are allowed by the all-powerful state? Only Muslims or Satanists or Baptists or Catholics? How about if they ask how often you attend church? Is it an approved church? What are the contents of your pastor's sermons?
That is why it is the hill to die on.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 28, 2016 12:13 PM (MIKMs
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Contrary to popular thought, none of this has anything to do with religion.
It's called freedom. The freedom of association is what's at stake.
That is why it is the hill to die on.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 28, 2016 12:13 PM (MIKMs
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Contrary to popular thought, none of this has anything to do with religion.
It's called freedom. The freedom of association is what's at stake.
Posted by: Soona at March 28, 2016 12:19 PM (Fmupd)
624
>>The great success on the part of the left, has been the injection of politics into every aspect of our lives.
Exactly. Honestly, I'd rather live and let live. I know happily coupled same-sex partners and I am happy for them. But this is not about them, it's about the Left using SSM as a tool for revolution, to subvert western Judaeo-Christian culture. Just as they're using abortion to destroy the concept that every life has value. They won't let any of us just be, it must be pushed into every corner of our lives.
Exactly. Honestly, I'd rather live and let live. I know happily coupled same-sex partners and I am happy for them. But this is not about them, it's about the Left using SSM as a tool for revolution, to subvert western Judaeo-Christian culture. Just as they're using abortion to destroy the concept that every life has value. They won't let any of us just be, it must be pushed into every corner of our lives.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2016 12:19 PM (NOIQH)
625
616 Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 28, 2016 12:16 PM (FkBIv)
The lesson the left is teaching is "if you want your faith to get any respect chop off some heads."
That *is* the only logical conclusion of their supinary butt thrust to Islam and their constant gaslighting of Xianity.
The lesson the left is teaching is "if you want your faith to get any respect chop off some heads."
That *is* the only logical conclusion of their supinary butt thrust to Islam and their constant gaslighting of Xianity.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 12:19 PM (g8Hfr)
626
But that's not how the law has worked since the 1960's
You also can't have a sign in front of your store that says "No Coloreds Allowed"
We can argue if that's "just" for eternity but that's how the law has worked for a long time.
People are acting like this is the first time a business owner has been forced to do something like this.
My ideal world would be if someone doesn't want to do business with
you for any reason, they should be allowed to do so. If a black barber
shop doesn't want to cut white people's hair, so be it, etc
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 12:12 PM (+9uBk)
Our freedom of conscience is given by God and is inalienable by the the government. That is always worth fighting for... just like restrictions on our inalienable right to self defense are worth fighting.
But that's not how the law has worked since the 1960's
You also can't have a sign in front of your store that says "No Coloreds Allowed"
We can argue if that's "just" for eternity but that's how the law has worked for a long time.
People are acting like this is the first time a business owner has been forced to do something like this.
My ideal world would be if someone doesn't want to do business with
you for any reason, they should be allowed to do so. If a black barber
shop doesn't want to cut white people's hair, so be it, etc
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 12:12 PM (+9uBk)
Our freedom of conscience is given by God and is inalienable by the the government. That is always worth fighting for... just like restrictions on our inalienable right to self defense are worth fighting.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 12:19 PM (NPofj)
627
It's called freedom. The freedom of association is what's at stake.
Posted by: Soona at March 28, 2016 12:19 PM (Fmupd)
Exactly.
I think that businesses should be allowed to discriminate, and I should be allowed to avoid them because they discriminate.
Posted by: Soona at March 28, 2016 12:19 PM (Fmupd)
Exactly.
I think that businesses should be allowed to discriminate, and I should be allowed to avoid them because they discriminate.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 12:20 PM (Zu3d9)
628
As someone pointed out above, 9^9^9 can be written with superscripts, so no other symbols are needed.
Posted by: GnuBreed
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That is how any engineer would write it, any physicist or mathematician, or at least, any that I know.
Posted by: GnuBreed
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That is how any engineer would write it, any physicist or mathematician, or at least, any that I know.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2016 12:20 PM (9mTYi)
629
The freedom of association is what's at stake.
Posted by: Soona
That was eliminated over 50 years ago.
The freedom of association is what's at stake.
Posted by: Soona
That was eliminated over 50 years ago.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 28, 2016 12:21 PM (FkBIv)
630
"Can't we all just get along?" -- Famous 20th century philosopher.
The distinction is between tolerance and mandated acceptance. A gay couple can find someone to bake their bespoke wedding cake. Sandra Fluke can buy her own damn birth control pills.
The distinction is between tolerance and mandated acceptance. A gay couple can find someone to bake their bespoke wedding cake. Sandra Fluke can buy her own damn birth control pills.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 28, 2016 12:21 PM (r1fLd)
631
As was pointed out upthread, Schools outlaw after school on campus Xian prayer groups on campus and then build Jihadi Jim prayer rooms for DURING school.
We're muddling issues. Redbanzai wants me to think homosexuality is immoral because the Bible says so.
Saying that SCOTUS has been dickish about Mohammedans may be accurate, but it does not have bearing on the question of whether Amendment the Oneth precludes religious tests.
We're muddling issues. Redbanzai wants me to think homosexuality is immoral because the Bible says so.
Saying that SCOTUS has been dickish about Mohammedans may be accurate, but it does not have bearing on the question of whether Amendment the Oneth precludes religious tests.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:21 PM (1xUj/)
632
The lesson the left is teaching is "if you want your faith to get any respect chop off some heads."
I said that earlier. You want respect, you're gonna have to cut some heads off. GMTA.
I said that earlier. You want respect, you're gonna have to cut some heads off. GMTA.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 12:22 PM (4Hf9E)
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 28, 2016 12:22 PM (KId5h)
634
What that particular law said or intended is kinda moot now. The reality is that muslims can deny service and Christian organizations can't.
And again, WE didn't start any of this shit.
Posted by: Blue Hen
No, I honestly think the Left has simply decided not to use lawfare against those groups because it doesn't fit the narrative. It's certainly not in the law that Muslims get to do this, it's that nobody has brought a suit against them.
Conservative groups should do this to make a point. Just like they should make a gay baker bake a cake that cites a Bible verse condemning homosexuality.
Conservatives are behind the curve on lawfare.
And again, WE didn't start any of this shit.
Posted by: Blue Hen
No, I honestly think the Left has simply decided not to use lawfare against those groups because it doesn't fit the narrative. It's certainly not in the law that Muslims get to do this, it's that nobody has brought a suit against them.
Conservative groups should do this to make a point. Just like they should make a gay baker bake a cake that cites a Bible verse condemning homosexuality.
Conservatives are behind the curve on lawfare.
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 12:22 PM (+9uBk)
635
Contrary to popular thought, none of this has anything to do with religion.
It's called freedom. The freedom of association is what's at stake.
If you own a lunch counter should you be free to not serve negroes?
It's called freedom. The freedom of association is what's at stake.
If you own a lunch counter should you be free to not serve negroes?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:22 PM (1xUj/)
636
Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at March 28, 2016 12:23 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at March 28, 2016 12:23 PM (kff5f)
638
Free?
Posted by: Doom Rider at March 28, 2016 12:24 PM (0LQ4f)
639
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2016 12:20 PM (9mTYi)
Once upon a time, long long ago in a galaxy far far away,
*We* had superscripts.
Once upon a time, long long ago in a galaxy far far away,
*We* had superscripts.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 28, 2016 12:24 PM (gyKtp)
640
This is Archives @ThisIsArchives
Hello! Thomas here, from back in the Holdings Room. I'm here to pull all of the interesting records you request at NARA. Let's get moving!
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This is Archives @ThisIsArchives
Hello! Thomas here, from back in the Holdings Room. I'm here to pull all of the interesting records you request at NARA. Let's get moving!
==========
Anybody have any requests?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 28, 2016 12:25 PM (iQIUe)
641
If you own a lunch counter should you be free to not serve negroes?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:22 PM (1xUj/)
Oh, geez. Not this again.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:22 PM (1xUj/)
Oh, geez. Not this again.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at March 28, 2016 12:25 PM (kff5f)
642
Georgia Gov to veto 'anti lgbtqrs' legislation....F off NFL
Posted by: Doom Rider at March 28, 2016 12:25 PM (0LQ4f)
643
If you own a lunch counter should you be free to not serve negroes?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:22 PM (1xUj/)
Yes.
And I should be free to shun you and protest and throw you out of my business for being an asshole.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:22 PM (1xUj/)
Yes.
And I should be free to shun you and protest and throw you out of my business for being an asshole.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 12:25 PM (Zu3d9)
644
The reason there cannot be any religious exemption for bakers or others to service gay wedding is that destroying religion, Christianity in particular, ,was/is the whole point of gay marriage. I am convinced very few gays are interested in marriage and the vast majority that are "married" now wild drift apart in a few years. The whole thing was a giant FU to Christians. Without this aspect there would not have been much support for the movement. This should have been obvious to the most naive observer be the hateful gloating after the SC ruling on gay marriage. For this reason there cannot be any exemption allowed for religion. It negates the whole project.
Posted by: Ripley at March 28, 2016 12:25 PM (1BQGO)
645
631 Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:21 PM (1xUj/)
You're avoiding the implication.
"My imaginary Sky God doctrine" does not call for me to test the glide path of said Dinner Masher as first, second, third, fourth, or fifth recourse.
Jihadi Jim is engaged in the very assault on the First Amendment's Anti-Establishment bent in Dearbornistan even as we type.
This problem is just starting friend and again I will be silently praying in hiding for the retards who spent all their time worried about stern looks from Xians when Sharia is openly rearing its head in the US.
I will also likely be out of interest in politics to "stop the bad guys" by that point.
Congrats to all the "wise agnostic/atheist geniuses" who are slaying the Christian Dragon while aiding and abetting the Muslim one.
The new boss will not be the same as the old boss, and I can have peace for a 15% tax.
You're avoiding the implication.
"My imaginary Sky God doctrine" does not call for me to test the glide path of said Dinner Masher as first, second, third, fourth, or fifth recourse.
Jihadi Jim is engaged in the very assault on the First Amendment's Anti-Establishment bent in Dearbornistan even as we type.
This problem is just starting friend and again I will be silently praying in hiding for the retards who spent all their time worried about stern looks from Xians when Sharia is openly rearing its head in the US.
I will also likely be out of interest in politics to "stop the bad guys" by that point.
Congrats to all the "wise agnostic/atheist geniuses" who are slaying the Christian Dragon while aiding and abetting the Muslim one.
The new boss will not be the same as the old boss, and I can have peace for a 15% tax.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 28, 2016 12:26 PM (g8Hfr)
646
I think that businesses should be allowed to discriminate, and I should be allowed to avoid them because they discriminate.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
I do as well, but as a conservative, do you think it's wise for us to say support the repeal of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to make this point?
because that's what it would take
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
I do as well, but as a conservative, do you think it's wise for us to say support the repeal of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to make this point?
because that's what it would take
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 12:26 PM (+9uBk)
647
'That which is not required is forbidden.'
It's coming. Count on it.Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 28, 2016 12:22 PM (KId5h)Before he went completely moonbat, the Catholic blogger Mark Shea used to use the tagline Acceptance is not enough. You. MUST. Approve.
'That which is not required is forbidden.'
It's coming. Count on it.Posted by: In Vino Veritits at March 28, 2016 12:22 PM (KId5h)Before he went completely moonbat, the Catholic blogger Mark Shea used to use the tagline Acceptance is not enough. You. MUST. Approve.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2016 12:26 PM (X6fMO)
648
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 12:26 PM (+9uBk)
No, it is unwise.
But allowing further expansion of it is also unwise.
No, it is unwise.
But allowing further expansion of it is also unwise.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 12:27 PM (Zu3d9)
649
We're muddling issues. Redbanzai wants me to think homosexuality is immoral because the Bible says so.
Saying that SCOTUS has been dickish about Mohammedans may be accurate, but it does not have bearing on the question of whether Amendment the Oneth precludes religious tests.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:21 PM (1xUj/)
The discussion was about why someone of the Christian faith would have an objection to participation in a gay marriage ceremony. The point having been something about "no religions that ban selling to sinners."
Redbanzai was elucidating why that particular form of commerce might rise above, say, a shoemaker selling shoes to a homosexual.
Why you think a discussion of someone's religious convictions and the underlying basis for them has anything to do with the first amendment is baffling.
As is the point where you think anyone was attempting to convince you to alter your own convictions.
We're muddling issues. Redbanzai wants me to think homosexuality is immoral because the Bible says so.
Saying that SCOTUS has been dickish about Mohammedans may be accurate, but it does not have bearing on the question of whether Amendment the Oneth precludes religious tests.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:21 PM (1xUj/)
The discussion was about why someone of the Christian faith would have an objection to participation in a gay marriage ceremony. The point having been something about "no religions that ban selling to sinners."
Redbanzai was elucidating why that particular form of commerce might rise above, say, a shoemaker selling shoes to a homosexual.
Why you think a discussion of someone's religious convictions and the underlying basis for them has anything to do with the first amendment is baffling.
As is the point where you think anyone was attempting to convince you to alter your own convictions.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 28, 2016 12:27 PM (7NKH4)
650
And I should be free to shun you and protest and throw you out of my business for being an asshole.
Asshole is behavior.
You cool if my club doesn't accept Joos?
Asshole is behavior.
You cool if my club doesn't accept Joos?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:27 PM (1xUj/)
651
The very fact that LGBTQRSXYZ crowd can say, with a straight face, that Religious Liberty is inherently anti-gay should tell you everything you need to know about their real motives.
It is not enough to have weddings (and, believe me, there are plenty of vendors who will cater to such), they must *force* those who disagree to serve them anyway. And saying that they cannot force others to do as they want is "homophobic."
F*ck that.
It is not enough to have weddings (and, believe me, there are plenty of vendors who will cater to such), they must *force* those who disagree to serve them anyway. And saying that they cannot force others to do as they want is "homophobic."
F*ck that.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at March 28, 2016 12:27 PM (kff5f)
652
If you own a lunch counter should you be free to not serve negroes?
Posted by: Bandersnatch
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And vice-versa. Yes.
Injecting race makes for an emotional response, but the fact is that people ought to be free to choose their private associations, whether business or social.
If someone wants to start a business "American Indian Males Only", fine. Why, oh why, should I care?
Posted by: Bandersnatch
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And vice-versa. Yes.
Injecting race makes for an emotional response, but the fact is that people ought to be free to choose their private associations, whether business or social.
If someone wants to start a business "American Indian Males Only", fine. Why, oh why, should I care?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2016 12:27 PM (9mTYi)
653
Under this reasoning, I could never understand why people are so opposed to gay marriage. Two people have gone to the court house, gotten a marriage certificate, spent the rest of their lives together, and the surviving spouse has been permitted civil legal rights along the way for centuries. The church didn't recognize it and they has no religious standing or benefit but the State aspects were separate.
Why is this different now?
Posted by: Damiano
Nothing is different.
The definition of marriage, by both secular societies and those heavily influenced by religions, was that the institution was a man and a woman.
Both secular and religious institutions had reasons to establish this, and to encourage it, nad to discourage veering from the norms that they wanted set.
It was in societies' interests that marriage (and hopefully child rearing) be encouraged. And it was heavily regulated for most of history, particularly for those of the upper classes (nobles must get marriages approved by the Crown, inheritence law and all sort of other stuff).
Gay marriage doesn't do shit for any institution.
Two people could get agreements, partnerships, civil unions and the rest before.
Societies with weak norms for marriages ted to stagnate and fail. We're seeing it in Europe and Japan. The more that people defy these norms, the weaker they become. The weaker they are, th elower the birthrate and the more unstable mariages tend to be.
We've been fed a ration of shit for decades now tat single motherhood isn't a symptom of an ill society, but empowerment. We're slowly and reluctantly hearing that it usually a bad thing, especially for children. Even "Murphy Brown" quietly admitted it.
And now we're being told that gay marriage is the second coming of a secular Christ. Just ignore the divorce rate. And the domestic violence rate. And the plight of adopted children in these unions.
Why is this different now?
Posted by: Damiano
Nothing is different.
The definition of marriage, by both secular societies and those heavily influenced by religions, was that the institution was a man and a woman.
Both secular and religious institutions had reasons to establish this, and to encourage it, nad to discourage veering from the norms that they wanted set.
It was in societies' interests that marriage (and hopefully child rearing) be encouraged. And it was heavily regulated for most of history, particularly for those of the upper classes (nobles must get marriages approved by the Crown, inheritence law and all sort of other stuff).
Gay marriage doesn't do shit for any institution.
Two people could get agreements, partnerships, civil unions and the rest before.
Societies with weak norms for marriages ted to stagnate and fail. We're seeing it in Europe and Japan. The more that people defy these norms, the weaker they become. The weaker they are, th elower the birthrate and the more unstable mariages tend to be.
We've been fed a ration of shit for decades now tat single motherhood isn't a symptom of an ill society, but empowerment. We're slowly and reluctantly hearing that it usually a bad thing, especially for children. Even "Murphy Brown" quietly admitted it.
And now we're being told that gay marriage is the second coming of a secular Christ. Just ignore the divorce rate. And the domestic violence rate. And the plight of adopted children in these unions.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 28, 2016 12:28 PM (326rv)
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I do as well, but as a conservative, do you think it's wise for us to say support the repeal of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to make this point?
It's always wisest to put duct tape over your mouth and comply with the powers that be.
I do as well, but as a conservative, do you think it's wise for us to say support the repeal of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to make this point?
It's always wisest to put duct tape over your mouth and comply with the powers that be.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 28, 2016 12:28 PM (FkBIv)
655
I used to watch The Walking Dead but I sort of got tired of it. My wife still watches and so occasionally I will see one.
Among my questions about the show is that one of the ways The Governor kept his town protected from zombies was to dig holes and bait them with noise makers to collect the random zombies in the neighborhood. That seems like such a good idea that I don't know why they would not do it every time they are in one place for even a short while.
Among my questions about the show is that one of the ways The Governor kept his town protected from zombies was to dig holes and bait them with noise makers to collect the random zombies in the neighborhood. That seems like such a good idea that I don't know why they would not do it every time they are in one place for even a short while.
Posted by: obnoxious ahole at March 28, 2016 12:29 PM (h6rVf)
656
If you own a lunch counter should you be free to not serve negroes?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:22 PM (1xUj/)________
Unfortunately, I have been seeing similar in my own area. My area is heavily hispanic and anglo-appearing people are made very unwelcome in certain businesses. Usually, the marketplace takes care of it, and they do not last long, but it is an ongoing oddity in our culture. I really think the marketplace would take care of most rudeness and bad business practices.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:22 PM (1xUj/)________
Unfortunately, I have been seeing similar in my own area. My area is heavily hispanic and anglo-appearing people are made very unwelcome in certain businesses. Usually, the marketplace takes care of it, and they do not last long, but it is an ongoing oddity in our culture. I really think the marketplace would take care of most rudeness and bad business practices.
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 28, 2016 12:29 PM (MIKMs)
657
So after all of that ass kissing over in Cuba. Fidel just released a letter and told Barry to go fck himself. Barry will still go ahead with his plan but once again the world shits in the face of his stupidity.
So after all of that ass kissing over in Cuba. Fidel just released a letter and told Barry to go fck himself. Barry will still go ahead with his plan but once again the world shits in the face of his stupidity.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2016 12:29 PM (493sH)
658
You cool if my club doesn't accept Joos?
Posted by: Bandersnatch
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My club doesn't accept Lutherans. They smell like Jello.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
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My club doesn't accept Lutherans. They smell like Jello.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2016 12:29 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Chris M at March 28, 2016 12:29 PM (k3w9p)
660
e^9^9^9 only has 3 digits.
Posted by: jb at March 28, 2016 12:29 PM (TRB7J)
661
That father is insufferable. It's obvious the question was regard to base 10 . Congratulate and praise your daughter for thinking out of the box but acknowledge the obvious.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 28, 2016 09:15 AM (Bc1aB)
Huh? Nine to the ninth to the ninth is expressed in base 10.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 28, 2016 09:15 AM (Bc1aB)
Huh? Nine to the ninth to the ninth is expressed in base 10.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2016 12:30 PM (UsLZp)
662
>>Once upon a time, long long ago in a galaxy far far away,
>*We* had superscripts.
AND Content!
>*We* had superscripts.
AND Content!
Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2016 12:30 PM (MvFEq)
663
If you own a lunch counter should you be free to not serve negroes?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:22 PM (1xUj/)
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Sure. Because my lunch counter down the street will serve them. Their money is just as green as mine.
And the lunch counter that won't serve them will never get that money.
Free enterprise. It's really a very simple concept.
If you own a lunch counter should you be free to not serve negroes?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:22 PM (1xUj/)
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Sure. Because my lunch counter down the street will serve them. Their money is just as green as mine.
And the lunch counter that won't serve them will never get that money.
Free enterprise. It's really a very simple concept.
Posted by: Soona at March 28, 2016 12:30 PM (Fmupd)
664
You cool if my club doesn't accept Joos?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:27 PM (1xUj/)
Yes.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:27 PM (1xUj/)
Yes.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 12:30 PM (Zu3d9)
665
You cool if my club doesn't accept Joos?
Posted by: Bandersnatch
I'm cool if your club only accepts you.
You cool if my club doesn't accept Joos?
Posted by: Bandersnatch
I'm cool if your club only accepts you.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 28, 2016 12:30 PM (FkBIv)
666
So after all of that ass kissing over in Cuba. Fidel just released a letter and told Barry to go fck himself. Barry will still go ahead with his plan but once again the world shits in the face of his stupidity.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2016 12:29 PM (493sH)
Well according to Horseface, the only thing "His friends" care about is Trump?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2016 12:29 PM (493sH)
Well according to Horseface, the only thing "His friends" care about is Trump?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2016 12:30 PM (mw8Dm)
667
>>So after all of that ass kissing over in Cuba. Fidel just released a letter and told Barry to go fck himself.
If Fidel promises to watch, Barrack will comply.
If Fidel promises to watch, Barrack will comply.
Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2016 12:31 PM (MvFEq)
668
And I should be free to shun you and protest and throw you out of my business for being an asshole.
Asshole is behavior.
You cool if my club doesn't accept Joos?
Posted by: Bandersnatch
The Nation of Islam hates and discriminates against Jooooos. And gays. And interracial couples. And it pots along, unimpeded.
Play your games on them.
Asshole is behavior.
You cool if my club doesn't accept Joos?
Posted by: Bandersnatch
The Nation of Islam hates and discriminates against Jooooos. And gays. And interracial couples. And it pots along, unimpeded.
Play your games on them.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 28, 2016 12:31 PM (326rv)
669
658 You cool if my club doesn't accept Joos?
Posted by: Bandersnatch
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My club doesn't accept Lutherans. They smell like Jello.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2016 12:29 PM (9mTYi)
They also make lutefisk, which I believe violates multiple laws regarding manufacture and possession of NBC weapons. I will have no truck with such people.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
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My club doesn't accept Lutherans. They smell like Jello.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2016 12:29 PM (9mTYi)
They also make lutefisk, which I believe violates multiple laws regarding manufacture and possession of NBC weapons. I will have no truck with such people.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 28, 2016 12:31 PM (0mRoj)
670
The Archbishop of Vienna, Christoph Cardinal Schonborn, issued a statement claiming he could confirm that Islamic State jihadists crucified 56-year-old Father Tom Uzhunnalil, an Indian Catholic priest, on Good Friday.
From the MSM, and FOX for that matter: SILENCE
Breitbart
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2016 09:38 AM (mw8Dm)
Barry will issue a statement any century now
From the MSM, and FOX for that matter: SILENCE
Breitbart
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2016 09:38 AM (mw8Dm)
Barry will issue a statement any century now
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2016 12:31 PM (493sH)
Posted by: Stein Stein & Lipshitz at March 28, 2016 12:32 PM (mw8Dm)
672
>>Free enterprise. It's really a very simple concept.
We can rebuild it.
We can make it stronger.
We can rebuild it.
We can make it stronger.
Posted by: Six Million Dollar Hayek at March 28, 2016 12:32 PM (MvFEq)
673
The definition of marriage, by both secular societies and those heavily influenced by religions, was that the institution was a man and a woman.
Right there is where "traditional values" lost the argument. If marriage is defined "by" society at all, then of course homosexual marriage (in a land that believes all Men are Created Equal) cannot be viewed any differently than "traditional" marriage.
If, on the other hand, you believe that marriage is defined by nature (that is: there are natural biological/evolutionary advantages to marriage being between a man and woman), and all of the other stuff - ceremonies, certificates, etc. - is actually based in acknowledgement of what nature has already decreed, then the whole argument goes away. Homosexuals can no more be married in any meaningful sense than a man can marry a horse.
Which has nothing direct to do with the freedom of association point, but is important nonetheless.
Right there is where "traditional values" lost the argument. If marriage is defined "by" society at all, then of course homosexual marriage (in a land that believes all Men are Created Equal) cannot be viewed any differently than "traditional" marriage.
If, on the other hand, you believe that marriage is defined by nature (that is: there are natural biological/evolutionary advantages to marriage being between a man and woman), and all of the other stuff - ceremonies, certificates, etc. - is actually based in acknowledgement of what nature has already decreed, then the whole argument goes away. Homosexuals can no more be married in any meaningful sense than a man can marry a horse.
Which has nothing direct to do with the freedom of association point, but is important nonetheless.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at March 28, 2016 12:33 PM (kff5f)
674
Were you listening to Rush? He talked about a column in the NYT in which they tried to identify future terrorists by examining the San Berdoo, Paris, Brussels and other terrorist in detail. The couldn't find a common characteristic. Not a common thread. Not one damn thing in common. It's a complete mystery!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 28, 2016 12:33 PM (Nwg0u)
675
671 You cool if my club doesn't accept Joos?
And pray tell what club is that?
Posted by: Stein Stein & Lipshitz
NOI.
And pray tell what club is that?
Posted by: Stein Stein & Lipshitz
NOI.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2016 12:34 PM (4Hf9E)
676
You cool if my club doesn't accept Joos?
Posted by: Bandersnatch
I wouldn't join a club that would admit me!
(Groucho Marx)
Posted by: Bandersnatch
I wouldn't join a club that would admit me!
(Groucho Marx)
Posted by: Mr Lizard, Ted Cruz at March 28, 2016 12:35 PM (vP09u)
677
>>> If you own a lunch counter should you be free to not serve negroes?
*****
In my opinion, yes.
I would call the lunch counter owner, quite accurately, stupid (for turning away paying customers) and racist (doing so for the reason of race).
If free market forces were permitted to take their natural course, it is also likely that the business would fail. Like minded people may, by their own choice and conscience, choose to eat elsewhere. Or not.
Today we have countless private (and many public) businesses and institutions that exclude people based on race, religion, gender and every other "protected characteristic" but aren't prosecuted by anyone. The United Negro College Fund and NAACP spring immediately to mind.
IMO, if you want to have a members only club, go right ahead. It's dumb but dumb is not illegal. What I despise is the double standard. If I, as a white male, am excluded by my race and/ or gender from your club, then I should have the right to form White NO MAAM if I want to.
*****
In my opinion, yes.
I would call the lunch counter owner, quite accurately, stupid (for turning away paying customers) and racist (doing so for the reason of race).
If free market forces were permitted to take their natural course, it is also likely that the business would fail. Like minded people may, by their own choice and conscience, choose to eat elsewhere. Or not.
Today we have countless private (and many public) businesses and institutions that exclude people based on race, religion, gender and every other "protected characteristic" but aren't prosecuted by anyone. The United Negro College Fund and NAACP spring immediately to mind.
IMO, if you want to have a members only club, go right ahead. It's dumb but dumb is not illegal. What I despise is the double standard. If I, as a white male, am excluded by my race and/ or gender from your club, then I should have the right to form White NO MAAM if I want to.
Posted by: Damiano at March 28, 2016 12:35 PM (XItbt)
678
Bikinis are the burqas of a nudist colony.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 28, 2016 12:35 PM (gyKtp)
679
Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2016 12:36 PM (mw8Dm)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 28, 2016 12:36 PM (/D5Lf)
681
I don't see an indictment till after the primaries (but before the convention).
How else will Obama get to make Biden/Warren 2016 the ticket ?
#TheCriminalHillaryClinton
How else will Obama get to make Biden/Warren 2016 the ticket ?
#TheCriminalHillaryClinton
Posted by: Obama For-ks America at March 28, 2016 12:36 PM (e8kgV)
682
9^9^9 is the largest number you can represent with 3 digits, but it isn't the largest "amount."
The largest quantity you can represent with three digits is 99/0, which is an undefined amount that can never be reached, infinity. Of course this is true for any digit or digits divided by zero. Infinity is not a number but an idea of some never-ending magnitude.
The largest quantity you can represent with three digits is 99/0, which is an undefined amount that can never be reached, infinity. Of course this is true for any digit or digits divided by zero. Infinity is not a number but an idea of some never-ending magnitude.
Posted by: g charles at March 28, 2016 12:36 PM (uw0oQ)
683
Would it be fair to say that-
everyone would be cool with "force to bake a cake" or "service those who offend you" laws-
if they were applied equally across all, and that means all sectors of society?
Cause if so, the only rational response and the most politically viable one is to employ law fare every single time you don't get what you want.
Conservatives need lawsuit factories like the libtards have.
Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander approach would soon moderate this fascistic nonsense.
Of course, that means conservatives become crybullies but if the idea of freedom and the rule of law is out the window-
then it's stupid not to respond in kind.
everyone would be cool with "force to bake a cake" or "service those who offend you" laws-
if they were applied equally across all, and that means all sectors of society?
Cause if so, the only rational response and the most politically viable one is to employ law fare every single time you don't get what you want.
Conservatives need lawsuit factories like the libtards have.
Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander approach would soon moderate this fascistic nonsense.
Of course, that means conservatives become crybullies but if the idea of freedom and the rule of law is out the window-
then it's stupid not to respond in kind.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2016 12:37 PM (0cMkb)
684
Sayyid: The proper response from the testing agency in this situation would probably have been throwing out the question entirely.
That was my conclusion as well, rather than making a big fight out of it, admit the lack of clarity. But, no, that would be easy and sensible.
Oh, just remembered, I was going to feed the pets...
Posted by: mindful webworker - oh, yeah at March 28, 2016 09:29 AM (6hZFv)
Exactly. But the bureaucrats dug in their heels, and forced the ultimate outcome. Let them wear it.
That was my conclusion as well, rather than making a big fight out of it, admit the lack of clarity. But, no, that would be easy and sensible.
Oh, just remembered, I was going to feed the pets...
Posted by: mindful webworker - oh, yeah at March 28, 2016 09:29 AM (6hZFv)
Exactly. But the bureaucrats dug in their heels, and forced the ultimate outcome. Let them wear it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2016 12:37 PM (UsLZp)
685
@Damiano: There is at some level a difference between state and religious entity-overseen marriage. The trouble is largely that the sanction of marriage by the state exists in the first place, in that pastors et al are vested with the ability to perform a marriage in the first place. The state recognized that these entities, of a culturally significant position, might need to carry out a religious marriage that it would make sense for the State to recognize. Recent precedent turns this completely on its head - providing any service with the permission of the state or in any capacity an authority related to the state makes the entity "public" and creates an avenue for anyone sanctioned by the state to conduct any kind of marriage to be forced to conduct one they do not approve.
With the traditional and more commutative understanding of marriage between different sects, and with a common understanding (assumption) of what a marriage is in public life, it was completely reasonable for entities of one faith to admit entities of another becoming married. It was not religiously a marriage exactly as they understood it, but it was *familiar*, and (in theory) nobody truly of one faith disrespects their own so much as to suborn other peoples' conscience in a matter of religious importance.
To simplify: a Christian is not challenged by two Hindus being married to one another. That "marriage" is recognizable within his own faith - the unbeliever following what might be termed natural law. As long as everybody understood what a marraige was in terms of being two responsible adults of opposite sex, it was possible to frame public understanding around that.
That has been shattered. Now anyone who has ever had sanction of the state to do their normal business in a way that the state can recognize is open to being co-opted, because the state has turned. Should they have seen this coming? Probably. In the mean time, those with one understanding of marriage are defenseless. The state, having been given permission by sects to recognize their individual forms of marriage, now seeks to control them. The tail wags the dog.
With the traditional and more commutative understanding of marriage between different sects, and with a common understanding (assumption) of what a marriage is in public life, it was completely reasonable for entities of one faith to admit entities of another becoming married. It was not religiously a marriage exactly as they understood it, but it was *familiar*, and (in theory) nobody truly of one faith disrespects their own so much as to suborn other peoples' conscience in a matter of religious importance.
To simplify: a Christian is not challenged by two Hindus being married to one another. That "marriage" is recognizable within his own faith - the unbeliever following what might be termed natural law. As long as everybody understood what a marraige was in terms of being two responsible adults of opposite sex, it was possible to frame public understanding around that.
That has been shattered. Now anyone who has ever had sanction of the state to do their normal business in a way that the state can recognize is open to being co-opted, because the state has turned. Should they have seen this coming? Probably. In the mean time, those with one understanding of marriage are defenseless. The state, having been given permission by sects to recognize their individual forms of marriage, now seeks to control them. The tail wags the dog.
Posted by: Sporkatus at March 28, 2016 12:37 PM (HtLSE)
686
**Le Sigh**
Posted by: Henri at March 28, 2016 12:37 PM (MvFEq)
687
If, on the other hand, you believe that marriage is defined by nature (that is: there are natural biological/evolutionary advantages to marriage being between a man and woman), and all of the other stuff - ceremonies, certificates, etc. - is actually based in acknowledgement of what nature has already decreed, then the whole argument goes away. Homosexuals can no more be married in any meaningful sense than a man can marry a horse.
Which has nothing direct to do with the freedom of association point, but is important nonetheless.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at March 28, 2016 12:33 PM (kff5f)
All of law is arbitrary unless it comes from a reference point outside of Man. Arbitrariness in law should scare the life out of people, but no one understands until they see it up close, in practice.
There was a point where society more or less accepted the Biblical external reference as the basis for moral law, even by those who did not at all believe in the content of that text. We functioned fairly well in those days.
Those days are gone, unless there is something like a Forth (fifth?) Great Awakening.
Which has nothing direct to do with the freedom of association point, but is important nonetheless.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at March 28, 2016 12:33 PM (kff5f)
All of law is arbitrary unless it comes from a reference point outside of Man. Arbitrariness in law should scare the life out of people, but no one understands until they see it up close, in practice.
There was a point where society more or less accepted the Biblical external reference as the basis for moral law, even by those who did not at all believe in the content of that text. We functioned fairly well in those days.
Those days are gone, unless there is something like a Forth (fifth?) Great Awakening.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 28, 2016 12:38 PM (7NKH4)
688
The problem with anri-discriminationaws is that they were intended to be used as a shield and they are being used as swords. Well, there's also that whole individual liberty/free enterprise thing.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 28, 2016 12:38 PM (Nwg0u)
689
The Archbishop of Vienna, Christoph Cardinal Schonborn, issued a statement claiming he could confirm that Islamic State jihadists crucified 56-year-old Father Tom Uzhunnalil, an Indian Catholic priest, on Good Friday.
From the MSM, and FOX for that matter: SILENCE
I'm sure Frankie Fabulous will be blaming it on Trump any moment now.
The Archbishop of Vienna, Christoph Cardinal Schonborn, issued a statement claiming he could confirm that Islamic State jihadists crucified 56-year-old Father Tom Uzhunnalil, an Indian Catholic priest, on Good Friday.
From the MSM, and FOX for that matter: SILENCE
I'm sure Frankie Fabulous will be blaming it on Trump any moment now.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2016 12:38 PM (X6fMO)
690
Conservatives are behind the curve on lawfare.
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 12:22 PM (+9uBk)
Well, the line "Come let us reason together, or I'll cut your throat!" tends to discourage conservative lawfare waged against muz!
Posted by: Swingline at March 28, 2016 12:22 PM (+9uBk)
Well, the line "Come let us reason together, or I'll cut your throat!" tends to discourage conservative lawfare waged against muz!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 28, 2016 12:39 PM (wYnyS)
691
How else will Obama get to make Biden/Warren 2016 the ticket ?
#TheCriminalHillaryClinton
Posted by: Obama For-ks America at March 28, 2016 12:36 PM (e8kgV)
Joey Biden: I hear that you're Indian. Do you own your own 7-11?
#TheCriminalHillaryClinton
Posted by: Obama For-ks America at March 28, 2016 12:36 PM (e8kgV)
Joey Biden: I hear that you're Indian. Do you own your own 7-11?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2016 12:39 PM (493sH)
692
NGU - Do I recall correctly that you are a dentist? Have you read 'Damned Engineers'? There is therein a recounting of the actions of a dentist with the 291st Combat Engineers during The Bulge that is very interesting.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2016 12:39 PM (9mTYi)
693
Before he went completely moonbat, the Catholic blogger Mark Shea used to use the tagline Acceptance is not enough. You. MUST. Approve.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2016 12:26 PM (X6fMO)
So now Shea is using that tagline unironically?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 28, 2016 12:26 PM (X6fMO)
So now Shea is using that tagline unironically?
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 28, 2016 12:39 PM (9hP7/)
694
>>he could confirm that Islamic State jihadists crucified 56-year-old Father Tom Uzhunnalil, an Indian Catholic priest, on Good Friday.
Did they kill his High Horse, too?
Did they kill his High Horse, too?
Posted by: garrett at March 28, 2016 12:39 PM (MvFEq)
695
The definition of marriage, by both secular societies and those heavily influenced by religions, was that the institution was a man and a woman.
Right there is where "traditional values" lost the argument. If marriage is defined "by" society at all, then of course homosexual marriage (in a land that believes all Men are Created Equal) cannot be viewed any differently than "traditional" marriage.
If, on the other hand, you believe that marriage is defined by nature (that is: there are natural biological/evolutionary advantages to marriage being between a man and woman), and all of the other stuff - ceremonies, certificates, etc. - is actually based in acknowledgement of what nature has already decreed, then the whole argument goes away. Homosexuals can no more be married in any meaningful sense than a man can marry a horse.
Which has nothing direct to do with the freedom of association point, but is important nonetheless.
I disagree. At the moment, society has other restrictions in place.
One man and one woman. The man and woman bit went out the airlock.
Two total is the current restriction.
Age of consent is another.
We have acknowledged before both basic requirements and conditions for various societal institutions.
We have also acknowledged the concept of religious and moral conscience, such as where military service is concerned.
This pretends that neither exist.
Right there is where "traditional values" lost the argument. If marriage is defined "by" society at all, then of course homosexual marriage (in a land that believes all Men are Created Equal) cannot be viewed any differently than "traditional" marriage.
If, on the other hand, you believe that marriage is defined by nature (that is: there are natural biological/evolutionary advantages to marriage being between a man and woman), and all of the other stuff - ceremonies, certificates, etc. - is actually based in acknowledgement of what nature has already decreed, then the whole argument goes away. Homosexuals can no more be married in any meaningful sense than a man can marry a horse.
Which has nothing direct to do with the freedom of association point, but is important nonetheless.
I disagree. At the moment, society has other restrictions in place.
One man and one woman. The man and woman bit went out the airlock.
Two total is the current restriction.
Age of consent is another.
We have acknowledged before both basic requirements and conditions for various societal institutions.
We have also acknowledged the concept of religious and moral conscience, such as where military service is concerned.
This pretends that neither exist.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 28, 2016 12:40 PM (326rv)
696
Is 1/0 less than 99/0?
Posted by: Mr Lizard, Ted Cruz at March 28, 2016 12:41 PM (vP09u)
697
The largest quantity you can represent with three digits is 99/0, which is an undefined amount that can never be reached, infinity. Of course this is true for any digit or digits divided by zero. Infinity is not a number but an idea of some never-ending magnitude.
Posted by: g
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That assumes the availability of operators.
Posted by: g
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That assumes the availability of operators.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2016 12:41 PM (9mTYi)
698
NGU - Do I recall correctly that you are a dentist? Have you read 'Damned Engineers'? There is therein a recounting of the actions of a dentist with the 291st Combat Engineers during The Bulge that is very interesting.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2016 12:39 PM (9mTYi)
I am a Dentist and no I have not read that, but I will. Thanks
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2016 12:39 PM (9mTYi)
I am a Dentist and no I have not read that, but I will. Thanks
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 28, 2016 12:41 PM (mw8Dm)
699
Lunch counters that refused service to people based on color were not responding to the market, but to the laws of the state in which they operated.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 28, 2016 12:41 PM (Qvgg/)
700
1/0 less than 99/0?
Posted by: Mr Lizard
----------------
ERROR!
Division by zero.
Execution halted.
Posted by: Mr Lizard
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ERROR!
Division by zero.
Execution halted.
Posted by: HAL at March 28, 2016 12:42 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: eleven at March 28, 2016 12:42 PM (aIjzc)
702
Posted by: TexasDan at March 28, 2016 12:38 PM (7NKH4)
A legal/judicial system based on the "feelings of the day" cannot be part of a functioning stable (long-term survivable) society.
Other than that, it's a great concept.
A legal/judicial system based on the "feelings of the day" cannot be part of a functioning stable (long-term survivable) society.
Other than that, it's a great concept.
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 28, 2016 12:42 PM (wYnyS)
703
Nude
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 12:43 PM (Zu3d9)
704
Nood Hillary
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 28, 2016 12:43 PM (/D5Lf)
705
Nood.
Posted by: HH at March 28, 2016 12:44 PM (DrCtv)
706
If you count to 9 to the 9 to the 9 you get a new thread.
Posted by: eleven at March 28, 2016 12:44 PM (aIjzc)
707
I pretty much had my fill of Mark Shea when he doubled down on insisting that my father was a war criminal, burning in Hell for serving in a bomber crew during WW2 when they did not have precision guided munitions.
It is a shame that Mark Shea is such a self righteous and obnoxious prick who seems to work at driving away people who could benefit from the less offensive things that he has to say.
It is a shame that Mark Shea is such a self righteous and obnoxious prick who seems to work at driving away people who could benefit from the less offensive things that he has to say.
Posted by: obnoxious ahole at March 28, 2016 12:44 PM (h6rVf)
708
You cool if my club doesn't accept Joos?
Posted by: Bandersnatch
No. But I also don't want the government to bankrupt and deprive someone of their livelihood over it either.
It's insane that in order to protect the "dignity" of a gay couples feelings a proprietor needs to be bankrupted and deprived of their dignity and livelihood.
You hurt someone's feelings and your life is ruined. This is pure fascism wrapped up in the lie that it's about "equality" and "dignity".
Posted by: Bandersnatch
No. But I also don't want the government to bankrupt and deprive someone of their livelihood over it either.
It's insane that in order to protect the "dignity" of a gay couples feelings a proprietor needs to be bankrupted and deprived of their dignity and livelihood.
You hurt someone's feelings and your life is ruined. This is pure fascism wrapped up in the lie that it's about "equality" and "dignity".
Posted by: gwelf at March 28, 2016 12:44 PM (TJ8HB)
709
Posted by: obnoxious ahole at March 28, 2016 12:44 PM (h6rVf)
If your dad is still around, please thank him for me.
If your dad is still around, please thank him for me.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2016 12:45 PM (Zu3d9)
710
This pretends that neither exist.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 28, 2016 12:40 PM (326rv)
Not at all.
It simply acknowledges that, for society to continue functioning, societal institutions must be based on something more objective than current social mores, and removes the need for "religious and moral conscience" from the argument entirely. It does not obviate conscience, rather it moves the argument to a state where "conscience" does not even have to be invoked.
Either man invented marriage, or he did not. If he did, then he can redefine it however he wants whenever he wants. If he did not, then his attempts to redefine it are pointless raging against a power greater than himself over which he has no control.
Religion specifically does not enter into it (I don't think it's exactly a secret that I'm a devout Christian over here) because I don't want to allow yet another Red Herring into the conversation.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 28, 2016 12:40 PM (326rv)
Not at all.
It simply acknowledges that, for society to continue functioning, societal institutions must be based on something more objective than current social mores, and removes the need for "religious and moral conscience" from the argument entirely. It does not obviate conscience, rather it moves the argument to a state where "conscience" does not even have to be invoked.
Either man invented marriage, or he did not. If he did, then he can redefine it however he wants whenever he wants. If he did not, then his attempts to redefine it are pointless raging against a power greater than himself over which he has no control.
Religion specifically does not enter into it (I don't think it's exactly a secret that I'm a devout Christian over here) because I don't want to allow yet another Red Herring into the conversation.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at March 28, 2016 12:46 PM (kff5f)
711
It's called freedom. The freedom of association is what's at stake.
If you own a lunch counter should you be free to not serve negroes?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:22 PM (1xUj/)
--------------------
This is true. That's why there was a black migration north after the Civil War. That's why there's now a black migration south again, because northern states have become insufferable for EVERYONE.
It's called freedom. The freedom of association is what's at stake.
If you own a lunch counter should you be free to not serve negroes?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:22 PM (1xUj/)
--------------------
This is true. That's why there was a black migration north after the Civil War. That's why there's now a black migration south again, because northern states have become insufferable for EVERYONE.
Posted by: Soona at March 28, 2016 12:47 PM (Fmupd)
712
Crisis averted. Georgia governor vetos religiousi liberty law.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 28, 2016 09:55 AM (Nwg0u)
Can the Legislature override the veto by passing the law again, unchanged? If so, they should.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 28, 2016 09:55 AM (Nwg0u)
Can the Legislature override the veto by passing the law again, unchanged? If so, they should.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2016 12:47 PM (UsLZp)
713
I now see comment #242 and others have roughly said the same as I did (any digit or two digits divided by zero is the largest quantity, but not technically the largest "number.")
Posted by: g charles at March 28, 2016 12:48 PM (uw0oQ)
714
Copy/paste fail. Shit!
Posted by: Soona at March 28, 2016 12:48 PM (Fmupd)
715
It was also explained to me that while church (or
other religious) marriages were generally recognized by the State the
same was not always reciprocal, justifiably so IMO. For example, if you
got hitched at the court house, you would not be married in the eyes of
the church.
Under this reasoning, I could never understand why people are so
opposed to gay marriage. Two people have gone to the court house, gotten
a marriage certificate, spent the rest of their lives together, and the
surviving spouse has been permitted civil legal rights along the way
for centuries. The church didn't recognize it and they has no religious
standing or benefit but the State aspects were separate.
Why is this different now?
Posted by: Damiano at March 28, 2016 12:17 PM (XItbt)
Good question and as far as the churches that I know go, it is not different (YET). I think most people of faith would have been fine with the live and let live of civil unions. But that was never going to be enough for homosexual activists. Religious people warned when this first became an issue that the end game in this is the suppression of religious conscience and that is exactly what is happening... just as Obamacare is being used as a bludgeon against religious people who object to murdering unborn babies.
I think though that those are two very good example of how American society has not benefited from Christianity being driven out of the public square. Abortion has created a hole in our population and our national conscience that is at least 55 million babies large.
Homosexual behavior, particularly among males, is a monogamy-phobic and disease ridden lifestyle. Normalizing that lifestyle encourages the spread of disease (because it is apparently homophobic to mention differential disease rates or to try and control the spread of diseases) AND involves innocent children in lifestyles that do not meet their need for both a mother and a father and also exposes them and habituates them to deviancy. That does not even take into account the assault on religious freedom that is being seen in state after state.
It is remarkable to me how the flouting of them show God's rules are there not because God is a killjoy who does not want us to have fun but because the forbidden things are actually bad for us.
other religious) marriages were generally recognized by the State the
same was not always reciprocal, justifiably so IMO. For example, if you
got hitched at the court house, you would not be married in the eyes of
the church.
Under this reasoning, I could never understand why people are so
opposed to gay marriage. Two people have gone to the court house, gotten
a marriage certificate, spent the rest of their lives together, and the
surviving spouse has been permitted civil legal rights along the way
for centuries. The church didn't recognize it and they has no religious
standing or benefit but the State aspects were separate.
Why is this different now?
Posted by: Damiano at March 28, 2016 12:17 PM (XItbt)
Good question and as far as the churches that I know go, it is not different (YET). I think most people of faith would have been fine with the live and let live of civil unions. But that was never going to be enough for homosexual activists. Religious people warned when this first became an issue that the end game in this is the suppression of religious conscience and that is exactly what is happening... just as Obamacare is being used as a bludgeon against religious people who object to murdering unborn babies.
I think though that those are two very good example of how American society has not benefited from Christianity being driven out of the public square. Abortion has created a hole in our population and our national conscience that is at least 55 million babies large.
Homosexual behavior, particularly among males, is a monogamy-phobic and disease ridden lifestyle. Normalizing that lifestyle encourages the spread of disease (because it is apparently homophobic to mention differential disease rates or to try and control the spread of diseases) AND involves innocent children in lifestyles that do not meet their need for both a mother and a father and also exposes them and habituates them to deviancy. That does not even take into account the assault on religious freedom that is being seen in state after state.
It is remarkable to me how the flouting of them show God's rules are there not because God is a killjoy who does not want us to have fun but because the forbidden things are actually bad for us.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 12:48 PM (NPofj)
716
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 28, 2016 12:28 PM (326rv)
Thanks for the great, reasoned answer.
I think my point is still valid, however. Different example. Some aquaintances, a Catholic male and Wiccan female, got married in a courthouse. The church considered this sinful, so much so that the male was excommunicated (got a letter from the pope and all) yet they are still married and live as husband and wife in the eyes of the State.
In my (and their) opinion, both the State and church were correct in their actions.
Thanks for the great, reasoned answer.
I think my point is still valid, however. Different example. Some aquaintances, a Catholic male and Wiccan female, got married in a courthouse. The church considered this sinful, so much so that the male was excommunicated (got a letter from the pope and all) yet they are still married and live as husband and wife in the eyes of the State.
In my (and their) opinion, both the State and church were correct in their actions.
Posted by: Damiano at March 28, 2016 12:49 PM (XItbt)
717
With all the smartasses on this blog, nobody brought up Graham's Number or Knuth Up-Arrow Notation? Well, I guess using multiple Knuth arrows is multiple operators.
Graham's Number (2xKnuth Up Arrow) Graham's Number ^ Graham's Number gives you an answer quite a bit larger than there are atoms in the known universe.
Graham's Number (2xKnuth Up Arrow) Graham's Number ^ Graham's Number gives you an answer quite a bit larger than there are atoms in the known universe.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 28, 2016 12:51 PM (4/i9Y)
718
It's worth noting that in the old common law only "common carriers" were not allowed to discriminate against serving customers. Common carriers where a narrow and distinct class of businesses in particular situations to ensure that someone could actually get lodging and food and not literally be denied essentials for life itself. This has been completely bastardized to the point that today any business that offends the feelings of a special group of snowflakes can be bankrupted.
All these fascists who drone on about "equality" and "dignity" have zero concern for the dignity and equality of the people the state is bankrupting and denying a livelihood on their behalf. They will threaten to boycott entire states if people are granted a small modicum of freedom but will applaud Brendan Eich being driven from his job at a company he helped found because of his private beliefs and private political activity. They are such raging hypocrites that it's obvious they don't care about equality and dignity at all but are simply power hungry fascists who intend to punish their enemies.
All these fascists who drone on about "equality" and "dignity" have zero concern for the dignity and equality of the people the state is bankrupting and denying a livelihood on their behalf. They will threaten to boycott entire states if people are granted a small modicum of freedom but will applaud Brendan Eich being driven from his job at a company he helped found because of his private beliefs and private political activity. They are such raging hypocrites that it's obvious they don't care about equality and dignity at all but are simply power hungry fascists who intend to punish their enemies.
Posted by: gwelf at March 28, 2016 12:52 PM (TJ8HB)
719
Today parked at the Mukilteo airport by the Boeing plant is a B-25 painted with British Air Force colors and sporting D-Day invasion stripes.
Awesome.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 28, 2016 10:04 AM (knN6T)
I had just gotten on the road home from Arizona Friday morning, and saw a B17, mostly shiny aluminum, with some blue on the tail, as it took off from Falcon Field in Mesa.
Awesome.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 28, 2016 10:04 AM (knN6T)
I had just gotten on the road home from Arizona Friday morning, and saw a B17, mostly shiny aluminum, with some blue on the tail, as it took off from Falcon Field in Mesa.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2016 12:52 PM (UsLZp)
720
"If you own a lunch counter should you be free to not serve negroes? "
If you own a gun should you be free to kill someone on public property?
No and no.
Freedom is limited, an moral, if it stops at the boundaries of legitimate rights of others.
Only God is perfectly free. For anyone to demand freedom without limits is to demand that others accept him as God.
If you own a gun should you be free to kill someone on public property?
No and no.
Freedom is limited, an moral, if it stops at the boundaries of legitimate rights of others.
Only God is perfectly free. For anyone to demand freedom without limits is to demand that others accept him as God.
Posted by: g charles at March 28, 2016 12:53 PM (uw0oQ)
721
Conservatives need lawsuit factories like the libtards have.
Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander approach would soon moderate this fascistic nonsense.
Of course, that means conservatives become crybullies but if the idea of freedom and the rule of law is out the window-
then it's stupid not to respond in kind.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2016 12:37 PM (0cMkb)
Except that judges are not issuing viewpoint neutral decisions. Homosexual bakers have not been forced to bake cakes with Bible scriptures condemning homosexuality when such cases have gone to court, for instance.
Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander approach would soon moderate this fascistic nonsense.
Of course, that means conservatives become crybullies but if the idea of freedom and the rule of law is out the window-
then it's stupid not to respond in kind.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2016 12:37 PM (0cMkb)
Except that judges are not issuing viewpoint neutral decisions. Homosexual bakers have not been forced to bake cakes with Bible scriptures condemning homosexuality when such cases have gone to court, for instance.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 12:55 PM (NPofj)
722
Only God is perfectly free. For anyone to demand freedom without limits is to demand that others accept him as God.
That said, for someone to demand that I as a cake-baker, or whatever, participate in promoting activity that violates my faith, then that would be trampling on my religious rights and I should have the freedom to say, "no."
Only God is perfectly free. For anyone to demand freedom without limits is to demand that others accept him as God.
That said, for someone to demand that I as a cake-baker, or whatever, participate in promoting activity that violates my faith, then that would be trampling on my religious rights and I should have the freedom to say, "no."
Posted by: g charles at March 28, 2016 12:57 PM (uw0oQ)
723
ughh - not this again; I originally saw this on Facebook
(9!)^(9!)^(9!) is FAR hgher
btw, treat my ^'s as superscripts)
oh, just saw 569 .. hey gave same answer
oh, and my answer is not even the highest
(9!)^(9!)^(9!) is FAR hgher
btw, treat my ^'s as superscripts)
oh, just saw 569 .. hey gave same answer
oh, and my answer is not even the highest
Posted by: Big Star at March 28, 2016 12:57 PM (/wt4l)
724
I'm the Teflon Dong.
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at March 28, 2016 12:58 PM (vtcmf)
725
"If you own a lunch counter should you be free to not serve negroes? "
If you own a gun should you be free to kill someone on public property?
No and no.
Freedom is limited, an moral, if it stops at the boundaries of legitimate rights of others.
Only God is perfectly free. For anyone to demand freedom without limits is to demand that others accept him as God.
Posted by: g charles at March 28, 2016 12:53 PM (uw0oQ)
Yes and not enough information to say.
Is denying someone service on account of the color of their skin offensive? Yes. Should it be illegal? NO... freedom implies the freedom to be offensive.
If you own a gun should you be free to kill someone on public property?
No and no.
Freedom is limited, an moral, if it stops at the boundaries of legitimate rights of others.
Only God is perfectly free. For anyone to demand freedom without limits is to demand that others accept him as God.
Posted by: g charles at March 28, 2016 12:53 PM (uw0oQ)
Yes and not enough information to say.
Is denying someone service on account of the color of their skin offensive? Yes. Should it be illegal? NO... freedom implies the freedom to be offensive.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 01:01 PM (NPofj)
726
I think my point is still valid, however. Different
example. Some aquaintances, a Catholic male and Wiccan female, got
married in a courthouse. The church considered this sinful, so much so
that the male was excommunicated (got a letter from the pope and all)
yet they are still married and live as husband and wife in the eyes of
the State.
In my (and their) opinion, both the State and church were correct in their actions.
Posted by: Damiano at March 28, 2016 12:49 PM (XItbt)
I would agree... but activists would have courts enforce recognition and celebration of sinful relationships by people of faith and, eventually, the church itself.
example. Some aquaintances, a Catholic male and Wiccan female, got
married in a courthouse. The church considered this sinful, so much so
that the male was excommunicated (got a letter from the pope and all)
yet they are still married and live as husband and wife in the eyes of
the State.
In my (and their) opinion, both the State and church were correct in their actions.
Posted by: Damiano at March 28, 2016 12:49 PM (XItbt)
I would agree... but activists would have courts enforce recognition and celebration of sinful relationships by people of faith and, eventually, the church itself.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 01:04 PM (NPofj)
727
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 12:48 PM (NPofj)
I agree almost entirely with the moral issues you bring up. Being agnostic, when asked about religion, my answer is that I believe in almost all religious morals and think society benefits far more from people being highly religious (exceptions being Islamic terrorists or the people who scream and me and condemn me to hell at shopping malls for not subscribing to their God) than a purely secular society. All reasoned, civilized people, I think, can agree that living by the 10 Commandments results in a better life and community than not.
I think the U.S. did well to root our secular society in Judeo-Christian values. If you leave out god (apologies in advance and no insult intended) and just look and these religions from a historical and societal perspective, they have historically produced the more civilized and successful communities (until someone decides that God wants them to take back land or murder people, then it all goes to shit. I blame the people for that more than God).
I don't see the problem with any two people being married. Divorce, disease, whatever... that's their problem. Not engaging in these behaviors either by personal choice or religious belief negates its impact.
On adoption, I'm torn. Personally, I believe that kids need a female mother and male father that are directly involved and responsible for them to have the best chance in life. Realistically, I acknowledge that this ideal has been a disaster for generations, leaving society with countless single parent homes, children with abusive parents, children without any parent...
If given the choice of children being wards of the State or wards in the care of a loving, stable homosexual household, the latter seems preferable to me.
I agree almost entirely with the moral issues you bring up. Being agnostic, when asked about religion, my answer is that I believe in almost all religious morals and think society benefits far more from people being highly religious (exceptions being Islamic terrorists or the people who scream and me and condemn me to hell at shopping malls for not subscribing to their God) than a purely secular society. All reasoned, civilized people, I think, can agree that living by the 10 Commandments results in a better life and community than not.
I think the U.S. did well to root our secular society in Judeo-Christian values. If you leave out god (apologies in advance and no insult intended) and just look and these religions from a historical and societal perspective, they have historically produced the more civilized and successful communities (until someone decides that God wants them to take back land or murder people, then it all goes to shit. I blame the people for that more than God).
I don't see the problem with any two people being married. Divorce, disease, whatever... that's their problem. Not engaging in these behaviors either by personal choice or religious belief negates its impact.
On adoption, I'm torn. Personally, I believe that kids need a female mother and male father that are directly involved and responsible for them to have the best chance in life. Realistically, I acknowledge that this ideal has been a disaster for generations, leaving society with countless single parent homes, children with abusive parents, children without any parent...
If given the choice of children being wards of the State or wards in the care of a loving, stable homosexual household, the latter seems preferable to me.
Posted by: Damiano at March 28, 2016 01:05 PM (XItbt)
728
Only if you are stuck on base 10. Try hexadecimal notation.
Posted by: Douglas Hanson at March 28, 2016 01:11 PM (6CZSA)
729
They walk underwater
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 28, 2016 11:21 AM (/D5Lf)
How? They'd still sort of float, being comprised of (rotten) flesh and bone.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 28, 2016 11:21 AM (/D5Lf)
How? They'd still sort of float, being comprised of (rotten) flesh and bone.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2016 01:16 PM (UsLZp)
730
>>> Freedom is limited, an moral, if it stops at the boundaries of legitimate rights of others.
****
I agree but I suppose our difference of opinion hinges on our definition of rights.
Do you have locks on your door? Do you invite eveyone without a home or food to live in your home and eat your food without reservation?
These are moral things to do and are defined in the Bible as Christian obligations. Yet we all have locks on our doors and we all have the right to share or not share what we choose to (or at least we used to, before government decided they ultimately own everything and they have the right to access and/ or redistribute 'your' things as they see fit).
The Bible defines free will. One and choose to live as a sinner or not. Their judgement comes from God on this choice, not man. I believe this to be the correct course, even as an agnostic.
Legislating morality has never been successful. Murder is illegal but criminals will still murder people. For that, they go to jail or are executed (unless they are a political/ celebrity, which is a whole different issue) because they deprived someone else of what was theirs. If someone is killed in the process is of taking what belongs to someone else, we don't consider it murder and look at it as a wash.
****
I agree but I suppose our difference of opinion hinges on our definition of rights.
Do you have locks on your door? Do you invite eveyone without a home or food to live in your home and eat your food without reservation?
These are moral things to do and are defined in the Bible as Christian obligations. Yet we all have locks on our doors and we all have the right to share or not share what we choose to (or at least we used to, before government decided they ultimately own everything and they have the right to access and/ or redistribute 'your' things as they see fit).
The Bible defines free will. One and choose to live as a sinner or not. Their judgement comes from God on this choice, not man. I believe this to be the correct course, even as an agnostic.
Legislating morality has never been successful. Murder is illegal but criminals will still murder people. For that, they go to jail or are executed (unless they are a political/ celebrity, which is a whole different issue) because they deprived someone else of what was theirs. If someone is killed in the process is of taking what belongs to someone else, we don't consider it murder and look at it as a wash.
Posted by: Damiano at March 28, 2016 01:17 PM (XItbt)
731
If you own a lunch counter should you be free to not serve negroes?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:22 PM (1xUj/)
I think it's ok in Germany. In the US cannibalism is illegal.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 28, 2016 12:22 PM (1xUj/)
I think it's ok in Germany. In the US cannibalism is illegal.
Posted by: Off the reservation at March 28, 2016 01:21 PM (YlqSL)
732
Wasn't the wedding cake issue about not participating in the wedding itself instead of not wanting to sell them the cake?
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 28, 2016 11:50 AM (Wckf4)
When it comes to fancy custom-made wedding cakes, the bakery is expected to set them up at the reception venue. It isn't cash and carry. So, participating.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 28, 2016 11:50 AM (Wckf4)
When it comes to fancy custom-made wedding cakes, the bakery is expected to set them up at the reception venue. It isn't cash and carry. So, participating.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2016 01:28 PM (UsLZp)
733
The church didn't recognize it and they has no religious
standing or benefit but the State aspects were separate.
Why is this different now?
Posted by: Damiano at March 28, 2016 12:17 PM (XItbt)
Redbanzai has answered this quite well. I would add that the state was not involved in marriage legalities until a push was made to help protect women and children from being orphaned and left for poor and charity by a husband/father who simply took off or left his family for another woman.
Divorce laws are the "cure" for failed marriages, from the standpoint of monetary support. The state had an interest in promoting intact families as it produced more stable children, were financially much more stable, and generally contributed to a happier, healthier nation that was more productive, had less crime, etc.
So in the 75 years that the liberals have been in charge of schools, politics, legislatures, etc. and have denigrated, demeaned, and laughed at marriage we now have a 50-60% divorce rate, we have well over half of all children born out of wedlock, we have a welfare and support state at the federal and state levels at rates never seen before, we have a serious crime rate, we have entire communities of ethnicities, such as blacks who are stuck in poverty because of a combination of abortion, out of wedlock children, inadequate or lack of education, etc.
So our response? Instead of strengthening marriage by supporting the long held tradition of church working with the state to produce a common goal, long term stable marriages, we redefined marriage to include sanctifying and legalizing two men or two women or two whatever they call themselves to be married AND to produce children from other people or adopt. An arrangement that no matter who argues for it, DOES not produce stable, happy children or support other marriages.
standing or benefit but the State aspects were separate.
Why is this different now?
Posted by: Damiano at March 28, 2016 12:17 PM (XItbt)
Redbanzai has answered this quite well. I would add that the state was not involved in marriage legalities until a push was made to help protect women and children from being orphaned and left for poor and charity by a husband/father who simply took off or left his family for another woman.
Divorce laws are the "cure" for failed marriages, from the standpoint of monetary support. The state had an interest in promoting intact families as it produced more stable children, were financially much more stable, and generally contributed to a happier, healthier nation that was more productive, had less crime, etc.
So in the 75 years that the liberals have been in charge of schools, politics, legislatures, etc. and have denigrated, demeaned, and laughed at marriage we now have a 50-60% divorce rate, we have well over half of all children born out of wedlock, we have a welfare and support state at the federal and state levels at rates never seen before, we have a serious crime rate, we have entire communities of ethnicities, such as blacks who are stuck in poverty because of a combination of abortion, out of wedlock children, inadequate or lack of education, etc.
So our response? Instead of strengthening marriage by supporting the long held tradition of church working with the state to produce a common goal, long term stable marriages, we redefined marriage to include sanctifying and legalizing two men or two women or two whatever they call themselves to be married AND to produce children from other people or adopt. An arrangement that no matter who argues for it, DOES not produce stable, happy children or support other marriages.
Posted by: Jen the original at March 28, 2016 01:28 PM (ph1j2)
734
I would go so far as to say it is morally wrong to deny someone food at your lunch counter based on their skin color or sexuality or whatever. But that doesn't mean it should be illegal to do so.
This is something the left has long rightly condemned Christians for doing in culture (by outlawing homosexual activity, for example, or banning work on Sundays or whatever) but now engages in regularly and without the slightest hint of shame. Just because its something morally wrong or sinful doesn't mean it therefore ought to be illegal.
This is something the left has long rightly condemned Christians for doing in culture (by outlawing homosexual activity, for example, or banning work on Sundays or whatever) but now engages in regularly and without the slightest hint of shame. Just because its something morally wrong or sinful doesn't mean it therefore ought to be illegal.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 28, 2016 01:31 PM (39g3+)
735
>>>The reflection of the 'nines' is wrong on the illustration.
=
Posted by: BumperStickerist at March 28, 2016 09:30 AM (8Q1Gy)
Sharp eye!
=
Posted by: BumperStickerist at March 28, 2016 09:30 AM (8Q1Gy)
Sharp eye!
Posted by: m at March 28, 2016 01:38 PM (S/1cF)
736
Under this reasoning, I could never understand why people are so opposed to gay marriage. Two people have gone to the court house, gotten a marriage certificate, spent the rest of their lives together, and the surviving spouse has been permitted civil legal rights along the way for centuries. The church didn't recognize it and they has no religious standing or benefit but the State aspects were separate.
Why is this different now?
Posted by: Damiano at March 28, 2016 12:17 PM (XItbt)
You are talking about civil unions, not religious marriage. Most opponents of "gay marriage" have no objection to civil unions. But the Gaystapo was having none of that.
Why is this different now?
Posted by: Damiano at March 28, 2016 12:17 PM (XItbt)
You are talking about civil unions, not religious marriage. Most opponents of "gay marriage" have no objection to civil unions. But the Gaystapo was having none of that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 28, 2016 01:38 PM (UsLZp)
737
>>>122 2 arms - 1 arm = 1 arm
Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 28, 2016 09:39 AM (SOVQ
I'm late to this, but hahahaha!
Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 28, 2016 09:39 AM (SOVQ
I'm late to this, but hahahaha!
Posted by: m at March 28, 2016 01:43 PM (S/1cF)
738
On adoption, I'm torn. Personally, I believe that
kids need a female mother and male father that are directly involved and
responsible for them to have the best chance in life. Realistically, I
acknowledge that this ideal has been a disaster for generations, leaving
society with countless single parent homes, children with abusive
parents, children without any parent...
If given the choice of children being wards of the State or wards in
the care of a loving, stable homosexual household, the latter seems
preferable to me.
Posted by: Damiano at March 28, 2016 01:05 PM (XItbt)
First, you are correct that the ideal for children is more rare than it should be these days. As a direct result of welfare policies, the normalization of sex outside of marriage and no-fault divorce laws, more children than not are born into far less than ideal circumstances.
As far as adoption by homosexuals, you are assuming stability where statistically next to none exists. Statistically, children adopted by or born to homosexuals suffer from a whole host of social ills at far greater rates than children raised by their mother and father and on par with children raised by single parents. Legally, many states have enforced policies that treat homosexuals as just as good for adoptive children as married heterosexual couples. That is just not the case though and as a result children are placed in sub-optimal homes where more optimal homes are available... particularly if you care that children are raised with Christian values (and many birth parents do). And does not even touch on the immorality and selfishness of using reproductive technology to bring a child into the world knowing that they will be half orphans their entire lives.
kids need a female mother and male father that are directly involved and
responsible for them to have the best chance in life. Realistically, I
acknowledge that this ideal has been a disaster for generations, leaving
society with countless single parent homes, children with abusive
parents, children without any parent...
If given the choice of children being wards of the State or wards in
the care of a loving, stable homosexual household, the latter seems
preferable to me.
Posted by: Damiano at March 28, 2016 01:05 PM (XItbt)
First, you are correct that the ideal for children is more rare than it should be these days. As a direct result of welfare policies, the normalization of sex outside of marriage and no-fault divorce laws, more children than not are born into far less than ideal circumstances.
As far as adoption by homosexuals, you are assuming stability where statistically next to none exists. Statistically, children adopted by or born to homosexuals suffer from a whole host of social ills at far greater rates than children raised by their mother and father and on par with children raised by single parents. Legally, many states have enforced policies that treat homosexuals as just as good for adoptive children as married heterosexual couples. That is just not the case though and as a result children are placed in sub-optimal homes where more optimal homes are available... particularly if you care that children are raised with Christian values (and many birth parents do). And does not even touch on the immorality and selfishness of using reproductive technology to bring a child into the world knowing that they will be half orphans their entire lives.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 28, 2016 01:54 PM (NPofj)
739
ughh - not this again; I originally saw this on Facebook
(9!)^(9!)^(9!) is FAR hgher
btw, treat my ^'s as superscripts)
oh, just saw 569 .. hey gave same answer
oh, and my answer is not even the highest
Posted by: Big Star at March 28, 2016 12:57 PM (/wt4l)
Let's be honest here, the test asked for the "largest number". You can write 9^9^9 or 9!^9!^9! until you are blue in the face, but unless you actually grab a ream of paper and write down the ACTUAL NUMBER the 9's represent you answered the question incorrectly.
(9!)^(9!)^(9!) is FAR hgher
btw, treat my ^'s as superscripts)
oh, just saw 569 .. hey gave same answer
oh, and my answer is not even the highest
Posted by: Big Star at March 28, 2016 12:57 PM (/wt4l)
Let's be honest here, the test asked for the "largest number". You can write 9^9^9 or 9!^9!^9! until you are blue in the face, but unless you actually grab a ream of paper and write down the ACTUAL NUMBER the 9's represent you answered the question incorrectly.
Posted by: doug at March 28, 2016 02:26 PM (Y7fRE)
740
As long as we're adding operators willy-nilly:
[[[[[[[(((((9!)!)!)!)!)^(((((9!)!)!)!)!)^(((((9!)!)!)!)!)]!]!]!]!]!]!]!
That totally crushes that little girl's number!! Friggin', little girl.
[[[[[[[(((((9!)!)!)!)!)^(((((9!)!)!)!)!)^(((((9!)!)!)!)!)]!]!]!]!]!]!]!
That totally crushes that little girl's number!! Friggin', little girl.
Posted by: jd at March 28, 2016 02:35 PM (c2pxW)
741
Without the addition of operators, 9^99 is 17 orders of magnitude greater than the posted answer.
Unless I've done the calculation wrong, but I don't think I have.
9^9^9 = 1.9662705047555291361807590852691 x 10^77
9^99 = 2.9512665430652752148753480226198 x 10^94
Unless I've done the calculation wrong, but I don't think I have.
9^9^9 = 1.9662705047555291361807590852691 x 10^77
9^99 = 2.9512665430652752148753480226198 x 10^94
Posted by: Editor at March 28, 2016 03:56 PM (7zhdJ)
742
Just found my mistake and sit corrected.
Posted by: Editor at March 28, 2016 03:57 PM (7zhdJ)
743
Well, G, Graham's number, is the largest number used for anything, so I'd say G^G^G. Considering Graham's number is too big to even begin to try and write, that would be more than a little ridiculous.
Of course, using up arrow notation, you can just go nuts.
Of course, using up arrow notation, you can just go nuts.
Posted by: Nobody at March 28, 2016 05:47 PM (VUyCH)
Posted by: Neil Ferguson at March 28, 2016 05:47 PM (HHGj0)
745
Never mind.
Posted by: Neil Ferguson at March 28, 2016 05:48 PM (HHGj0)
746
As I recall, at least one of the cake bakers was in Denver, so the story was big news around here. The baker had no qualms whatsoever serving and selling any kind of baked goods to anybody, gay or otherwise. So a generalized discrimination complaint is not the case. He only objected to a wedding cake because of his religious belief that homosexual marriage was wrong and that by supplying the cake at all was a participation in that sin by supporting the event. Pretty clear that it's solely a religious exemption since he was happy to sell any of his other goods, just not that one. Of course the local administrative board was populated by PC'ers.
As to the free association issue, someone higher up finally made the point that public accommodation used to be a VERY narrow category, and, to a limited degree, would be righteous under existing civil rights law. But now everything licensed by the state has become a public accommodation, clearly in violation of the 1st amendment protections of freedom of association. You don't give up your rights because the state forces you to buy a license to commit commerce. And laws and statutes don't over ride the clear intent of the 1st amendment of the Constitution. Now, the supremes may think it's groovy to sell their ethics for political correctness, but that doesn't make them right.
They weren't right with Dred Scott and, ironically, they aren't right about this either.
As to the free association issue, someone higher up finally made the point that public accommodation used to be a VERY narrow category, and, to a limited degree, would be righteous under existing civil rights law. But now everything licensed by the state has become a public accommodation, clearly in violation of the 1st amendment protections of freedom of association. You don't give up your rights because the state forces you to buy a license to commit commerce. And laws and statutes don't over ride the clear intent of the 1st amendment of the Constitution. Now, the supremes may think it's groovy to sell their ethics for political correctness, but that doesn't make them right.
They weren't right with Dred Scott and, ironically, they aren't right about this either.
Posted by: bob@compono.org at March 28, 2016 06:36 PM (APRDU)
747
As someone up-thread alluded to, while all the US was bigoted agains black people, the biggest cause of discrimination in the country was caused by laws that forced businesses and individuals to behave in a bigoted way. Laws about back of the bus, or one ethnicity only fountains and restrooms, prohibition from eating at lunch counters. Ever so slowly bigotry was easing, maybe not very noticeably, but you have to be really dense to not to start to see that people are people, regardless of pigmentation. But when the state law is blacks can't eat at a lunch counter it doesn't matter whether the owners and servers want to or not, unless they are willing to break the law.
Posted by: bob@compono.org at March 28, 2016 06:40 PM (APRDU)
748
MDC
Posted by: John at March 28, 2016 07:40 PM (Xucu5)
749
Hate to keep Kissy and Kissy up all night, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
Posted by: gozer at March 29, 2016 05:19 AM (4v//R)
750
When you allow operations, you are limited only by the operations you allow. There is an operation called Tetration (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetration)
that rises much faster than exponentiation. Therefore the answer in this article is wrong.
There is always ambiguity in any question, and the father and daughter used this ambiguity to make themselves feel smarter than they really are.
that rises much faster than exponentiation. Therefore the answer in this article is wrong.
There is always ambiguity in any question, and the father and daughter used this ambiguity to make themselves feel smarter than they really are.
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