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"#TheThing" And Marco Rubio and His Unhinged Supporters
Reconsidering: Eh, while I still think that all of these people are nasty, I'm no stranger to personally wishing an alleged scandal would drop -- I remember being on tenterhooks about the latest vaporscandal claimed to be about to drop about Clinton during the nineties, for example.
A lot of what you're going to read below is me being shocked, shocked that there are some politics in politics, and that some political people are employed in the business of spreading derogatory rumors and gossip. I also rewrote to narrow the focus of who it was, exactly, I was venting at. It's not all Trump supporters nor all Rubio supporters. But there is a certain sort of animal, the Political Beast, that just isn't my cup of tea anymore. Maybe I've just gotten older, and as I realize I have fewer minutes left in my life, I'm less willing to spend them on nasty shit. At some point, I guess, one has to ask oneself: Exactly how important is this particular candidacy to me, and how much of my personal honor am I prepared to -- or required to, if the candidate in question requires a lot of sacrifice of honor to defend -- bargain away on his behalf? There was a time that the conservative movement liked to flatter itself as being all about honor and even virtue. I guess we're not pretending on that score any longer. I guess maybe that's for the best -- it's better to be honest about one's lack of honor, than to dishonestly flatter oneself postulating a deep commitment to honor that doesn't exist. I should employ that rule I sometimes remind myself of -- don't post when angry. And anyway, who cares? It's just America. America was breaking anyway, and Obama broke it forever. We have to think more about starting anew than recovering something that's already gone. ...I don't like Donald Trump because I consider him now to be utterly without honor, a nasty narcissistic man of nothing but appetites and impulses and Really Bad Business Deals that he then claims are "great deals." Because he's a narcissist. But I see now that these very low, very base traits are well-represented among Marco Rubio's elite-level super-fan cultists. In fact, this Daily Beast article straight-up claims that the story has been pushed by "Marco Rubio allies" for quite some time, peddled to various outlets (like Breitbart) who all refused the garbage.
A half-dozen GOP operatives and media figures tell The Daily Beast that Cruz's opponents have been pushing charges of adultery for at least six months now--and that allies of former GOP presidential hopeful Marco Rubio were involved in spreading the smears. For months and months, anti-Cruz operatives have pitched a variety of #CruzSexScandal stories to a host of prominent national publications, according to Republican operatives and media figures. The New York Times, The Washington Post, Bloomberg News, Politico, and ABC News--reporters at all those outlets heard some version of the Cruz-is-cheating story. None of them decided to run with rumors. Those publications' representatives all declined to provide on-the-record comments when The Daily Beast reached out for this article. Breitbart News, the notoriously Trump-friendly conservative outlet, was also pitched the story of Cruz’s extramarital affairs, according to a source close to the publication. That source said an operative allied with Marco Rubio--but not associated with his official campaign--showed the publication a compilation video of Cruz and a woman other than his wife coming out of the Capitol Grille restaurant and a hotel on Tuesdays and Thursdays. But the outlet opted not to report on the video, which demonstrated no direct evidence of an affair. "We got it from a Rubio ally," said the source. "It was too thin, so [Breitbart's Washington political editor Matt Boyle] decided not to run it. There was no way to verify the claims." A Rubio spokesman wasn’t immediately available for comment.After Marco Rubio dropped out, I tried to avoid baiting his cultists. They were all very down (and continue to be very down -- some are taking some kind of delight in today's story). But I'll tell you right now: I have never felt better to see the suffering of others than right now. I'm glad your little sketchy amnesty bitch lost the race. He deserved to lose, and you-all deserve to cry your little Marco-lovin' eyes out over it. Maybe Mario can drink your tears -- because, I'm given to understand, he really loves water. For months I said Rubio people were silly. But some of them are more than silly. They're nasty. They are, as a writer at the Wall Street Journal once said of another person's supporters, bitter people whose hearts have become envenomed. It was never plausible that your pro-amnesty (still!) candidate could win the primary, and if you were too dumb to get that, you should work on your own understanding of the Republican primary electorate, instead of looking for scapegoats upon whom to blame this entirely-predictable outcome. Oh, and if you're upset to discover that you're not smart enough to sell your pro-amnesty candidate as anti-amnesty to dumb people, sorry that you're just realizing you're not that smart, and other people aren't that dumb. Meanwhile, the Trump's own Garbage People surrogates, operatives, and shills are pushing this as hard as they can, too. For Those Who.. are either this dumb or like pretending to be really dumb, no, this doesn't mean that Trump's people didn't also push the story to the virtual Trump campaign extension National Enquirer. The only operative quoted in the National Enquirer piece is, oddly enough, Roger Stone, who was either fired by Trump or fake fired by Trump, because he's still acting like a paid Trump surrogate and operative.
The article also quoted Roger Stone, a former Trump adviser who is still close to the real-estate mogul. "These stories have been swirling about Cruz for some time," Stone said in the National Enquirer. "I believe where there is smoke there is fire. I have to believe this will hurt him with his evangelical Christian supporters."So spare me the "Obviously Trump could not have possibly had anything to do with this" stupidity. It certainly seems possible a Trump person pitched this to Trump's good friend David Pecker, editor of the National Enquirer -- I'm pretty sure Roger Stone could supply the phone number, if they lost it. It's getting hard to tell if people are really this stupid or just pretending to be this stupid to spam comments with stupid sloganeering, and it's getting tedious to have to keep trying to tell the difference. Oh One Last Thing: I don't even want to read about Mario Romo's "optimistic, positive, hopeful view of America" ever afuckingain.
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Posted by: Lilredhen at March 25, 2016 03:57 PM (YxHpp)
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It's illogical to blame Rubio supporters --if they were in possession of the information they would have used it to save Rubio.
The media have/has it and were trying to develop it.
The timing doesn't fit your narrative.
The media have/has it and were trying to develop it.
The timing doesn't fit your narrative.
Posted by: Super Tramp at March 25, 2016 03:58 PM (mcm0N)
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The chances of Hillary Clinton becoming President are fast approaching 100%. If anyone still cares about that.
Posted by: Myself at March 25, 2016 03:59 PM (5wiU6)
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Harrrumph!!!
Posted by: That Guy at March 25, 2016 03:59 PM (8ZskC)
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Are comments broken?
Posted by: Lilredhen at March 25, 2016 03:57 PM (YxHpp)
Yes. Moose out front should have told you.
Posted by: Lilredhen at March 25, 2016 03:57 PM (YxHpp)
Yes. Moose out front should have told you.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 25, 2016 04:00 PM (8ZskC)
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"The timing doesn't fit your narrative."
Except for the tweets by Rubio supporters that fit the timeline. But aside from that, sure, whatever.
Except for the tweets by Rubio supporters that fit the timeline. But aside from that, sure, whatever.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 25, 2016 04:00 PM (kBIIG)
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And Cruz goes out and claims Trump is behind it... After denying any association with the Melania thing. This is why principles are so important because principles would have kept Ted from lashing out at Trump.
All I'm left to do is root for a brokered convention...
Scott Walker 2016! Humble leadership who predicted the future... (I.e. Trump taking all the o2)
Help us Obi-Walker you're our only hope.
All I'm left to do is root for a brokered convention...
Scott Walker 2016! Humble leadership who predicted the future... (I.e. Trump taking all the o2)
Help us Obi-Walker you're our only hope.
Posted by: Gov98 at March 25, 2016 04:01 PM (cdCFg)
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I'm moving to Ireland, fuck it.
Posted by: Lauren at March 25, 2016 04:01 PM (kq8V8)
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I've been here for years, but it's starting to get where it's not fun to read this site anymore.
What an awful political season.
What an awful political season.
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at March 25, 2016 04:01 PM (Y5I9o)
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So, from the Daily Beast article, Cruz knows damn well that this story didn't originate from Trump, and yet, 80% of his response is designed to blame Trump for it.
Posted by: Not Buyin It at March 25, 2016 04:01 PM (HeK4a)
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:01 PM (dciA+)
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"The chances of Hillary Clinton becoming President are fast approaching 100%. If anyone still cares about that"
Arguably that happened when South Carolina voted.
Arguably that happened when South Carolina voted.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 25, 2016 04:02 PM (kBIIG)
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To echo I forget who: Everybody is clear on the fact that Trump is mentally ill, right?
Posted by: HiHo at March 25, 2016 04:02 PM (CPk08)
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How do you keep all of this sorted out?
Posted by: no one at all at March 25, 2016 04:02 PM (ymhTd)
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"Garbage people"?
That's the third site today I heard that term, is this some new coordinated thing?
I hold no truck with the Rubio folks chopping onions in the rain, nor DT but I hope this isn't some "fetch" that's supposed to happen.
That's the third site today I heard that term, is this some new coordinated thing?
I hold no truck with the Rubio folks chopping onions in the rain, nor DT but I hope this isn't some "fetch" that's supposed to happen.
Posted by: SarahW at March 25, 2016 04:02 PM (3fTXW)
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@9: I'm with you.
Posted by: shadowofashade at March 25, 2016 04:02 PM (owQDO)
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So, Ace, what you are saying is that Trump is a vacuous, morally void opportunist?
*scratches head*
*strokes chin*
Well, yeah, I can't come up with a counter-argument.
*scratches head*
*strokes chin*
Well, yeah, I can't come up with a counter-argument.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2016 04:02 PM (9mTYi)
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But, Ace, these two descriptions of anti-Trump stories: 1) bruited about by . . . anti-Trump people and 2) damaging information about Trump
don't match with 3) today's claim-of-claims by the National Enquirer [anti-Cruz stories]
. . . I think.
don't match with 3) today's claim-of-claims by the National Enquirer [anti-Cruz stories]
. . . I think.
Posted by: m at March 25, 2016 04:02 PM (S/1cF)
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Holy Week isn't what it used to be.
Posted by: aquaviva at March 25, 2016 04:03 PM (PXlKS)
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Usually we don't see this much slime against a candidate until it is the general election and the Democrat opposition research gets released.
And it is slime.
And it is slime.
Posted by: rd at March 25, 2016 04:03 PM (v0YLX)
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>>>So, from the Daily Beast article, Cruz knows damn well that this story didn't originate from Trump, and yet, 80% of his response is designed to blame Trump for it.
oh please, are you really this illogical, or are you just pretending?
There is no fucking point in RUBIO pushing the story anymore -- and yet it got pushed to a Trump friendly outlet.
whose DETECTIVES are *currently* "investigating" the claims, as the NE says?
You think Rubio's paying for the detectives?
Apparently you believe that only one person can push a story.
Again, sometimes I can't tell if some of you are just dumb or playing stupid.
I'm getting tired of having to try to figure out the difference.
oh please, are you really this illogical, or are you just pretending?
There is no fucking point in RUBIO pushing the story anymore -- and yet it got pushed to a Trump friendly outlet.
whose DETECTIVES are *currently* "investigating" the claims, as the NE says?
You think Rubio's paying for the detectives?
Apparently you believe that only one person can push a story.
Again, sometimes I can't tell if some of you are just dumb or playing stupid.
I'm getting tired of having to try to figure out the difference.
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:03 PM (dciA+)
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//So, from the Daily Beast article, Cruz knows damn well that this story didn't originate from Trump, and yet, 80% of his response is designed to blame Trump for it.//
Uhhh Roger Stone took it from the Rubio crew and handed it over to the National Enquirer... nnnyhello?
Uhhh Roger Stone took it from the Rubio crew and handed it over to the National Enquirer... nnnyhello?
Posted by: MrMosis at March 25, 2016 04:04 PM (YN02q)
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Ace ...
... there are no good guys in this. Just people jockeying for position, to use politics to their advantage at our detriment
I don't trust any of them.
... there are no good guys in this. Just people jockeying for position, to use politics to their advantage at our detriment
I don't trust any of them.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 25, 2016 04:04 PM (zfvHs)
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Garbage People - a In the UK, would that be Rubbish People?
Posted by: Weasel at March 25, 2016 04:04 PM (e3bId)
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#wheelswithinwheelswithinwheelswithinwheelswithinwheelswithinwheels
Posted by: tu3031 at March 25, 2016 04:04 PM (YFFpo)
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@9 remember "stuff Jefferson said" 2d edition. I loved that for ages... This election year sucks... But it'll get better most people are decent. Find salvation in church... Not USA govt.
Posted by: Gov98 at March 25, 2016 04:04 PM (cdCFg)
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For the record, this supports the conspiracy theory I floated in the other thread that GOP was behind this... a two-bird-one-stone hit on both Trump and Cruz. It benefits Kasich.... which is what they really want, open convention.
Posted by: Not Buyin It at March 25, 2016 04:05 PM (HeK4a)
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https://youtu.be/3E4TmZG-gWI?t=3m41s
Posted by: Mickey Gordon at March 25, 2016 04:05 PM (ToR7p)
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Gateway Pundit has some story about the anonymous hacker group as very possibly being the source of the Cruz story which would mean it's not Trump behind it. I am not a fan of Trump at all but it would kind of kill the last 4 hours of rage on here by the boss. But, whatever, carry on. Ace you were right to hold fire on this story until more came out about it. But you also didn't do the same and went full crazy linking it to Trump because of your disdain for him. I get it. But you seem to be fraught with double standards as of late.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 25, 2016 04:05 PM (btH0m)
Posted by: Hillary! 2016 Barking For Us at March 25, 2016 04:05 PM (8ZskC)
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It's illogical to blame Rubio supporters --if they were in possession of the information they would have used it to save Rubio.
The media have/has it and were trying to develop it.
The timing doesn't fit your narrative.
***
If they shopped it around weeks ago, it would have fit the timeline for when Rubio was at his most desperate. They needn't mention it again afterwards because, after that, it was 'out there'.
The media have/has it and were trying to develop it.
The timing doesn't fit your narrative.
***
If they shopped it around weeks ago, it would have fit the timeline for when Rubio was at his most desperate. They needn't mention it again afterwards because, after that, it was 'out there'.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 25, 2016 04:05 PM (SEXy3)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 25, 2016 04:06 PM (kBIIG)
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> Again, sometimes I can't tell if some of you are just dumb or playing stupid.
Didn't you just go on a banning spree for people making personal attack comments like this?
Didn't you just go on a banning spree for people making personal attack comments like this?
Posted by: Not Buyin It at March 25, 2016 04:06 PM (HeK4a)
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Meanwhile, the Trump Garbage People are pushing this as hard as they can, too.
I give credit to the CNN babe for saying we're not going to talk about this trash until CNN has some reporting on it.
I can't believe the chutzpah of the Trumpette calling out that girl to her face.
I give credit to the CNN babe for saying we're not going to talk about this trash until CNN has some reporting on it.
I can't believe the chutzpah of the Trumpette calling out that girl to her face.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 25, 2016 04:06 PM (1xUj/)
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Mitt Romney is smiling today...
Posted by: rd at March 25, 2016 04:07 PM (v0YLX)
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Brattleboro still loves our Presdent of Color....Do you? If you don't love your Presdent then you are not a good citizen.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at March 25, 2016 04:07 PM (KRuzk)
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@22: "Uhhh Roger Stone took it from the Rubio crew and handed it over to the National Enquirer... nnnyhello?"
'cause the Rubio people never, ever woulda thought about peddling the story to every tabloid in the English speaking world by themselves? Umm, okay.
'cause the Rubio people never, ever woulda thought about peddling the story to every tabloid in the English speaking world by themselves? Umm, okay.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at March 25, 2016 04:07 PM (21hN3)
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If Trump pushed this meme knowing it to be false, I'm done with him. However, if it is true that Cruz has had affairs, I'm done with him.
This is the dirtiest political race I have ever witnessed. And the sad thing is, the opposition party, as filthy a bunch as ever assembled, comes out looking morally superior.
Heartbreaking.
This is the dirtiest political race I have ever witnessed. And the sad thing is, the opposition party, as filthy a bunch as ever assembled, comes out looking morally superior.
Heartbreaking.
Posted by: One of Luntz's dunces at March 25, 2016 04:08 PM (eXTZt)
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Come on. Nobody would believe Little Marco would have an affair. No woman would think... "Oh I just gotta have me some of Little Marco and even Littler Marco." Crazy.
Posted by: D. Trump at March 25, 2016 04:08 PM (H9MG5)
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16 @9: I'm with you.
Posted by: shadowofashade at March 25, 2016 04:02 PM (owQDO)
People are losing their ever-loving minds this year.
Posted by: shadowofashade at March 25, 2016 04:02 PM (owQDO)
People are losing their ever-loving minds this year.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at March 25, 2016 04:08 PM (4rFke)
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Hillary and Debbie Whatsername-Schitz are very happy today.
Posted by: rd at March 25, 2016 04:09 PM (v0YLX)
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>>>
Uhhh Roger Stone took it from the Rubio crew and handed it over to the National Enquirer... nnnyhello?
nah that's impossible, there's no way famous hatchet-man and dark-arts-pracitioner roger stone could have possibly gotten in contact with the NE
even though he's quoted in the NE piece
From Politico:
The article also quoted Roger Stone, a former Trump adviser who is still close to the real-estate mogul. "These stories have been swirling about Cruz for some time," Stone said in the National Enquirer. "I believe where there is smoke there is fire. I have to believe this will hurt him with his evangelical Christian supporters."
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/ted-cruz-trump-national-enquirer-221241#ixzz43x31f64V
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so sure, no way Roger Stone could have gotten in contact.
Uhhh Roger Stone took it from the Rubio crew and handed it over to the National Enquirer... nnnyhello?
nah that's impossible, there's no way famous hatchet-man and dark-arts-pracitioner roger stone could have possibly gotten in contact with the NE
even though he's quoted in the NE piece
From Politico:
The article also quoted Roger Stone, a former Trump adviser who is still close to the real-estate mogul. "These stories have been swirling about Cruz for some time," Stone said in the National Enquirer. "I believe where there is smoke there is fire. I have to believe this will hurt him with his evangelical Christian supporters."
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/ted-cruz-trump-national-enquirer-221241#ixzz43x31f64V
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so sure, no way Roger Stone could have gotten in contact.
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:09 PM (dciA+)
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Rubio people, such as Rick Wilson, certainly delighted in "#TheThing," but it's only breaking through now because one Trump ally, Roger Stone, pushed it (he's the only quoted source in the story) to another Trump ally, David Pecker (publisher of the National Enquirer).
Posted by: C.T. at March 25, 2016 04:09 PM (NpzV4)
Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at March 25, 2016 04:09 PM (sqs5K)
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>>>39 Come on. Nobody would believe Little Marco would have an affair. No woman would think... "Oh I just gotta have me some of Little Marco and even Littler Marco." Crazy.
Posted by: D. Trump at March 25, 2016 04:08 PM (H9MG5)
You got the Trump-speak down pat.
Posted by: D. Trump at March 25, 2016 04:08 PM (H9MG5)
You got the Trump-speak down pat.
Posted by: m at March 25, 2016 04:09 PM (S/1cF)
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I hate the world right now. So much. I felt like crap after 2 Obama wins, and I actually feel worse now. Every day I read the news and think to myself Donald Trump? Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME? It's all been very eye opening. I've been a Cruz supporter from the beginning. Every primary vote for Trump is a general election vote for Hillary. Ugh.
Posted by: Kat at March 25, 2016 04:09 PM (SvbDB)
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> There is no fucking point in RUBIO pushing the story anymore -- and yet it got pushed to a Trump friendly outlet.
Did I say any of that? Dude, according to the story, Mario had ALREADY pushed it. He pushed it long ago. Not a secret. Cruz peeps knew about it, prepared for damage control in advance, etc. This shit was already floating around waiting for someone like NE to pick it up and fling. The point though is Rubio is the source of this, not Trump.
And yes, I do think Rubio has a reason to push it out now. Why hadn't Rubio endorsed? The powers that be are pushing for an open convention, that's a conspiracy fact. Look at the polls man. Cruz can maybe win WI, but that's about it. In a month Trump is dominating north east contests. Kasich looks like he could upset places like PA though. Cruz can't, he's in the way there. So in the interest of open convention, if they can kill off Cruz, this helps Kasich in the states Trump is dominating. Not hard math.
Did I say any of that? Dude, according to the story, Mario had ALREADY pushed it. He pushed it long ago. Not a secret. Cruz peeps knew about it, prepared for damage control in advance, etc. This shit was already floating around waiting for someone like NE to pick it up and fling. The point though is Rubio is the source of this, not Trump.
And yes, I do think Rubio has a reason to push it out now. Why hadn't Rubio endorsed? The powers that be are pushing for an open convention, that's a conspiracy fact. Look at the polls man. Cruz can maybe win WI, but that's about it. In a month Trump is dominating north east contests. Kasich looks like he could upset places like PA though. Cruz can't, he's in the way there. So in the interest of open convention, if they can kill off Cruz, this helps Kasich in the states Trump is dominating. Not hard math.
Posted by: Not Buyin It at March 25, 2016 04:10 PM (HeK4a)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 25, 2016 04:10 PM (hEvzH)
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I'd second that Harrrumph
Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2016 04:10 PM (fizMZ)
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5 Are comments broken?
Posted by: Lilredhen at March 25, 2016 03:57 PM (YxHpp)
Yes. Moose out front should have told you.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 25, 2016 04:00 PM (8ZskC)
Every time I read that I laugh. Still funny.
Posted by: Lilredhen at March 25, 2016 03:57 PM (YxHpp)
Yes. Moose out front should have told you.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 25, 2016 04:00 PM (8ZskC)
Every time I read that I laugh. Still funny.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at March 25, 2016 04:10 PM (xyQAa)
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I might look over a Cruz affair. Link this latest deal to Trump, however, and I'm done with him.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 25, 2016 04:10 PM (zfvHs)
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37 @22: "Uhhh Roger Stone took it from the Rubio crew and handed it over to the National Enquirer... nnnyhello?"
'cause the Rubio people never, ever woulda thought about peddling the story to every tabloid in the English speaking world by themselves? Umm, okay.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at March 25, 2016 04:07 PM (21hN3)
Possibly because they realized there was no real "there" there.
Trump's a Honey Badger, he don't care.
'cause the Rubio people never, ever woulda thought about peddling the story to every tabloid in the English speaking world by themselves? Umm, okay.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at March 25, 2016 04:07 PM (21hN3)
Possibly because they realized there was no real "there" there.
Trump's a Honey Badger, he don't care.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at March 25, 2016 04:11 PM (4rFke)
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I've been here for years, but it's starting to get where it's not fun to read this site anymore. What an awful political season.Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog
Know whatcha mean. The only worthwhile thread is the contentless morning thread. We're all fairly pleasant there. Yeah, there's Trump people, and Cruz people, but we tend to get along. Vic throws some links into the mix, so there's that.
We're all hard core political junkies, with Vic probably median age over 100, so we've seen it all, so today's outrage never seems so outrageous.
Know whatcha mean. The only worthwhile thread is the contentless morning thread. We're all fairly pleasant there. Yeah, there's Trump people, and Cruz people, but we tend to get along. Vic throws some links into the mix, so there's that.
We're all hard core political junkies, with Vic probably median age over 100, so we've seen it all, so today's outrage never seems so outrageous.
Posted by: mega machines at March 25, 2016 04:11 PM (fbovC)
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That's nothing, I have 7 mistresses and they are all more gorgeous, classier and more luxurious than Ted's.
Posted by: Donaldus Maximus at March 25, 2016 04:11 PM (A3a8d)
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You're spot on here Ace.
Rubio people created and ran the "Melania" ad because they knew it would hurt both Trump AND Cruz.
They want a brokered convention where somehow, magically, Rubio and Kasich are shat out in some combination as the nominees.
These Rubio people are stupid, nasty nihilist sociopaths who only care about their online virtue.
When they're not jerking off to House of Cards they're busy lying their asses off on Twitter and telling people to vote Cruz or Kasich, respectively, like they're playing a game of goddamn gin rummy.
Rubio people created and ran the "Melania" ad because they knew it would hurt both Trump AND Cruz.
They want a brokered convention where somehow, magically, Rubio and Kasich are shat out in some combination as the nominees.
These Rubio people are stupid, nasty nihilist sociopaths who only care about their online virtue.
When they're not jerking off to House of Cards they're busy lying their asses off on Twitter and telling people to vote Cruz or Kasich, respectively, like they're playing a game of goddamn gin rummy.
Posted by: DeepThrauxt at March 25, 2016 04:11 PM (WYp+i)
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at March 25, 2016 04:11 PM (4rFke)
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I saw that the Thing was a trend & Rick Wilson was on Twitter about it too. He posted something like if they're worried about lawsuits, put on You Tube & let people discover it.
Posted by: Carol at March 25, 2016 04:11 PM (sj3Ax)
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Lol. I ran into a coven of Marco monsters the other day on Twitter. They are more pathetic than trumpkins because at least trump is still in the race. Marco is out but these people were still desperately clinging to hope. And desperately disparaging Cruz and trump supporters. This whole fucking GOP part is burning to he ground. And as a guy who has voted republican for 20 years in search of fiscal conservativism, I'm just laughing.
Posted by: California red at March 25, 2016 04:11 PM (sBAYv)
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So is the problem that Ted had mistresses, or that they did not vouch for his humping excellence?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 25, 2016 04:11 PM (o7Ufw)
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I believe what we have here is a failure to comprehend that meta-beings are cleaning house. The rot in the Democrat Party has been obvious since Kennedy, actually since Wilson. But the Republican rot has not been as evident, Nixon notwithstanding.
Well one thing is clear: the rot inside Washington is bi-partisan and at Olympian levels. The meta-beings are sick of it and are opening the doors. Trump has been a useful tool to the meta-beings because he kicked in the rotten door. Cockroaches are scrambling. By November it's hard to tell how many present Washington figures will be still standing.
Something going on here.
Well one thing is clear: the rot inside Washington is bi-partisan and at Olympian levels. The meta-beings are sick of it and are opening the doors. Trump has been a useful tool to the meta-beings because he kicked in the rotten door. Cockroaches are scrambling. By November it's hard to tell how many present Washington figures will be still standing.
Something going on here.
Posted by: One of Luntz's dunces at March 25, 2016 04:12 PM (eXTZt)
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Geez. And last year the biggest talker was if Mitt tied his dog to the car and if Barry ate his. What a shit show.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 25, 2016 04:12 PM (btH0m)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 25, 2016 04:12 PM (0mRoj)
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Uhhh Roger Stone took it from the Rubio crew and handed it over to the National Enquirer... nnnyhello?
Posted by: MrMosis at March 25, 2016 04:04 PM (YN02q)
That I could believe.
Posted by: MrMosis at March 25, 2016 04:04 PM (YN02q)
That I could believe.
Posted by: jwb7605 at March 25, 2016 04:12 PM (DofIg)
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Props to Ted for the presser.
Posted by: Valiant at March 25, 2016 04:12 PM (3MiF8)
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This is not a first for foam boy's enterage.
Posted by: Ralph at March 25, 2016 04:13 PM (qZIkn)
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>>>Lol. I ran into a coven of Marco monsters the other day on Twitter. They are more pathetic than trumpkins because at least trump is still in the race. Marco is out but these people were still desperately clinging to hope. And desperately disparaging Cruz and trump supporters.
they are lunatic and vile.
they are lunatic and vile.
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:13 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2016 04:13 PM (voOPb)
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Is this the fifteen minutes for Mario? Because, if so, I'm in.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 25, 2016 04:14 PM (Nwg0u)
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I miss the days when my "get ready and gun up" talk was the most divisive shit here.
I really do.
I really do.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 25, 2016 04:14 PM (zfvHs)
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Who is winning thanks to this latest shit storm?
Couldn't be the GOP Establishment had anything to do with this.
Couldn't be the GOP Establishment had anything to do with this.
Posted by: rd at March 25, 2016 04:14 PM (v0YLX)
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I think if this was a Trump joint, he'd be talking it up and his peeps would be too, and they aren't. Seems like its just anti-Cruz folks of which there are an awful lot.
Could it be true? Yeah sure, politicians are scum, and he's a lawyer to boot. Is it likely? Seems pretty ridiculous to me. The only thing keeping this going is a desperation play by Trump fans to push the story everywhere they can like the left did with Bush did 9/11 and Iraq is a disaster. It worked for the left, why not Trump fans?
Could it be true? Yeah sure, politicians are scum, and he's a lawyer to boot. Is it likely? Seems pretty ridiculous to me. The only thing keeping this going is a desperation play by Trump fans to push the story everywhere they can like the left did with Bush did 9/11 and Iraq is a disaster. It worked for the left, why not Trump fans?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:14 PM (39g3+)
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you know who this really benefits?
Posted by: Willard at March 25, 2016 04:14 PM (nFwvY)
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>>>You're spot on here Ace.
Rubio people created and ran the "Melania" ad because they knew it would hurt both Trump AND Cruz.
They want a brokered convention where somehow, magically, Rubio and Kasich are shat out in some combination as the nominees.
...
that occurred to me but it seems too tricksy. people don't really put these three-bank shots into play very often.
Plus, Mario's people are fucking dumb.
Rubio people created and ran the "Melania" ad because they knew it would hurt both Trump AND Cruz.
They want a brokered convention where somehow, magically, Rubio and Kasich are shat out in some combination as the nominees.
...
that occurred to me but it seems too tricksy. people don't really put these three-bank shots into play very often.
Plus, Mario's people are fucking dumb.
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:14 PM (dciA+)
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"But I see now that these very low, very base traits are well-represented among Marco Rubio's cultists."
Every cult, except ours.
Oh dear.
Every cult, except ours.
Oh dear.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian at March 25, 2016 04:14 PM (QvJot)
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People are disgusting. Cruz is strong with Evangelicals therefore some assholes stayed up late and thought about would would be the story that would shake Evangelicals faith (so to speak) about Cruz.
The whole political opposition deal is disgusting.
Stick with the effing problems not made up bullshit.
The whole political opposition deal is disgusting.
Stick with the effing problems not made up bullshit.
Posted by: Seems legit at March 25, 2016 04:14 PM (U+nHb)
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Man, these two minute hate things are supposed to be only once per day, to start the day, and get the masses inspired for work. Not every hour on the hour and a different target each hour.
A guy could strain his back trying to keep up.
A guy could strain his back trying to keep up.
Posted by: Gillroy Peougo at March 25, 2016 04:15 PM (a7RSp)
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>>They're garbage people,
They say ex-smokers are the most strident anti-smokers. I guess the same is true with ex-garbage people.
They say ex-smokers are the most strident anti-smokers. I guess the same is true with ex-garbage people.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 25, 2016 04:15 PM (/tuJf)
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Like the national enquirer people where sitting around the table saying to each other, 'What do ya got? Nothing? Yeah, I got nothing either. '
They couldn't think of any possible shit to stir without Donald Trump firing up the light bulb in their brains.
*cackles*
They couldn't think of any possible shit to stir without Donald Trump firing up the light bulb in their brains.
*cackles*
Posted by: mega machines at March 25, 2016 04:15 PM (fbovC)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 25, 2016 04:16 PM (zOTsN)
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Why aren't my Comments posting?
Posted by: garrett at March 25, 2016 04:16 PM (MvFEq)
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Fun read ace. Thanks for keeping us sane during this election.
Posted by: Draki at March 25, 2016 04:16 PM (0eidE)
Posted by: Yo! at March 25, 2016 04:17 PM (GwIKd)
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With this kind of sober, not-at-all-unhinged analysis I dunno how someone like Trump could ever get traction in the GOP
Posted by: Observer at March 25, 2016 04:17 PM (Pa4eZ)
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Why aren't my Comments posting?
Posted by: garrett at March 25, 2016 04:16 PM
I can see you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: garrett at March 25, 2016 04:16 PM
I can see you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 25, 2016 04:17 PM (btH0m)
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With this kind of sober, not-at-all-unhinged analysis I dunno how someone like Trump could ever get traction in the GOP
Posted by: Observer at March 25, 2016 04:17 PM (Pa4eZ)
I get the feeling that Mario and Toupe people are the same kind of dumb.
Posted by: Observer at March 25, 2016 04:17 PM (Pa4eZ)
I get the feeling that Mario and Toupe people are the same kind of dumb.
Posted by: Draki at March 25, 2016 04:18 PM (0eidE)
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I can see you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Holy shit!
Did you hear that?
I think that was the spirit of buzzion.
Holy shit!
Did you hear that?
I think that was the spirit of buzzion.
Posted by: andycanuck at March 25, 2016 04:18 PM (ioqGj)
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Couldn't be the GOP Establishment had anything to do with this.
See, that's my most suspected origin of this, or the Hillary camp, not Trump. All it does is draw attention to Trump as a serial adultering sleaze and makes Cruz look bad to his core evangelical support. Neither one looks good in this fight, but who does?
See, that's my most suspected origin of this, or the Hillary camp, not Trump. All it does is draw attention to Trump as a serial adultering sleaze and makes Cruz look bad to his core evangelical support. Neither one looks good in this fight, but who does?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:18 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Charlie Sheen at March 25, 2016 04:18 PM (4WhSY)
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Ugh. I'm surprised I have any hair left on my head or that I haven't ground my teeth down to nubs this campaign season.
I've been inspired to research the history of contentious American elections from waaaay back and this seems tame by comparison, but JFC, can the silliness just stop? Sheesh.
I've been inspired to research the history of contentious American elections from waaaay back and this seems tame by comparison, but JFC, can the silliness just stop? Sheesh.
Posted by: Theresa D., the Fab one at March 25, 2016 04:19 PM (MeXxt)
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If Trump pushed this meme knowing it to be false, I'm done with him. However, if it is true that Cruz has had affairs, I'm done with him.
---
and if Trump has had affairs, will you also be done with him?
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and if Trump has had affairs, will you also be done with him?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 25, 2016 04:19 PM (o7Ufw)
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Having dinner with a woman, then coming out of the same hotel with her?
I've been TDY with a group of other government types who all stay at the same hotel. I have often gone to dinner with one or two of them, and we end up eating breakfast together and leaving at the same time.
We weren't having an affair.
If this is the best evidence out there, it's totally inconclusive.
I've been TDY with a group of other government types who all stay at the same hotel. I have often gone to dinner with one or two of them, and we end up eating breakfast together and leaving at the same time.
We weren't having an affair.
If this is the best evidence out there, it's totally inconclusive.
Posted by: sardiver@hotmail.com at March 25, 2016 04:19 PM (o9ahq)
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This really is turning out to be a shit sandwich. I voted Bob Barr in '08. I can see doing something similar this year.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 25, 2016 04:19 PM (zfvHs)
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>>>Rubio people created and ran the "Melania" ad because they knew it would hurt both Trump AND Cruz.
<<<
If this is so then the heavy and of the GOPe is there supporting it.
Walkin round money they called it, they did.
<<<
If this is so then the heavy and of the GOPe is there supporting it.
Walkin round money they called it, they did.
Posted by: Ralph at March 25, 2016 04:19 PM (qZIkn)
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Just recalling here that Roger Stone had to resign from the Dole '96 campaign, after someone pointed out that he and his wife had personal ads running in swingers' circulars, seeking swap partners and whatnot.
Stone at the time denounced these allegations as vicious lies intended to smear the nominee by association. Then a few years down the line, he grinned and fessed up that it had been true from the get-go.
Stone at the time denounced these allegations as vicious lies intended to smear the nominee by association. Then a few years down the line, he grinned and fessed up that it had been true from the get-go.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 25, 2016 04:20 PM (noWW6)
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I saw Tears of Others open for Tears for Fears at the Hemisphere Arena in '86.
Posted by: Weird Nick at March 25, 2016 04:20 PM (PEKYn)
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Nastiest primary in history? It's always been nasty. The day after Washington was inaugurated people started jockeying for position. Plenty of examples of nastiness in history.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 25, 2016 04:20 PM (kTF2Z)
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Hurt him with evangelicals? Da fuq? Trump already won the south, Cruz is pretty hurt with evangelicals already.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 25, 2016 04:20 PM (tM4uk)
Posted by: Theresa D., the Fab one at March 25, 2016 04:20 PM (MeXxt)
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Yeah, Roger Stone is a pig.
Posted by: Seems legit at March 25, 2016 04:20 PM (U+nHb)
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My sightings of rubots have been very limited compared to the gutter Trumpkins on Twitter. But, then again, I'm down to visiting about once a week
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2016 04:21 PM (voOPb)
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Ace you should watch the movie Calvary. An Irish movie, about a priest and the soul but not religious per se.
Ace you should watch the movie Calvary. An Irish movie, about a priest and the soul but not religious per se.
Posted by: ThunderB at March 25, 2016 04:21 PM (zOTsN)
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I've been TDY with a group of other government types who all stay at the same hotel. I have often gone to dinner with one or two of them, and we end up eating breakfast together and leaving at the same time.
We weren't having an affair.
If this is the best evidence out there, it's totally inconclusive.
Posted by: sardiver@hotmail.com at March 25, 2016 04:19 PM (o9ahq)
IDK.... were you ever in the same foxhole as a guy at night..... seems suspicious.
We weren't having an affair.
If this is the best evidence out there, it's totally inconclusive.
Posted by: sardiver@hotmail.com at March 25, 2016 04:19 PM (o9ahq)
IDK.... were you ever in the same foxhole as a guy at night..... seems suspicious.
Posted by: Draki at March 25, 2016 04:21 PM (0eidE)
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As long as it wasn't "sex" it's not an affair
Posted by: Slick Willie Clinton at March 25, 2016 04:21 PM (96C7R)
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The only operative quoted in the National Enquirer piece is, oddly enough, Roger Stone, who was either fired by Trump or fake fired by Trump, because he's still acting like a paid Trump surrogate and operative.
That was pretty much my take on things when Stone was dismissed. Trump was claiming he fired Stone, and Stone was claiming he left voluntarily.
That was pretty much my take on things when Stone was dismissed. Trump was claiming he fired Stone, and Stone was claiming he left voluntarily.
Posted by: jwb7605 at March 25, 2016 04:21 PM (DofIg)
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Ace, I hope in a moment of clarity you can look back and see the role that you played in all this. You and Drew have, since forever ago advocated that we "let it burn". It being the GOP or the country. Whelp, it's burning because so many on "our side" are willing to put our own personal anger ahead of what's best for the United States. Electing a jackass like Trump out of spite is just the natural conclusion to what was born out of Drew M's stupid imagination as an excuse for not getting involved and helping the situation and facilitated by you.
Posted by: Yo, Ace at March 25, 2016 04:21 PM (ywZNz)
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If Trump pushed this meme knowing it to be false, I'm done with him.
However, if it is true that Cruz has had affairs, I'm done with him.
---
and if Trump has had affairs, will you also be done with him?
I had affairs with both of them, at the same time!
Or maybe that was siamese twin llamas?
Winning!
However, if it is true that Cruz has had affairs, I'm done with him.
---
and if Trump has had affairs, will you also be done with him?
I had affairs with both of them, at the same time!
Or maybe that was siamese twin llamas?
Winning!
Posted by: Charlie Sheen at March 25, 2016 04:21 PM (4WhSY)
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So Trump is the man behind the curtain and anyone that is not a Cruz supporter is unhinged about the numerous audultery sightings involving Teddy.
Arent Cruz supporters even the slightest bit curious ifthe Cruz's have the same kind of arrangment that Bill and Hillary have?
Arent Cruz supporters even the slightest bit curious ifthe Cruz's have the same kind of arrangment that Bill and Hillary have?
Posted by: Drider at March 25, 2016 04:21 PM (6Xbsz)
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Yeah this isn't the nastiest in US history but its got to be up in the top 10.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:21 PM (39g3+)
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Late in the day on Thursday, Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) filed paperwork to continue an ongoing lawsuit against the Democratic National Committee. The reason surrounds an incident with the Hillary Clinton campaign that occurred more than three months ago. The lawsuit argues that the DNC unfairly barred Sanders from accessing critical voter information
I'd like to see the other side go to war but I know they'll just take Bernie out back and shoot him
I'd like to see the other side go to war but I know they'll just take Bernie out back and shoot him
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 25, 2016 04:21 PM (45oDG)
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But I see now that these very low, very base traits are well-represented among Marco Rubio's cultists.
How about amongst Cruz cultists?
How about amongst Cruz cultists?
Posted by: Kasich the Barbarian, Son of Mailman at March 25, 2016 04:21 PM (uyrlv)
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This not so unusual. Remember the Lincoln Douglas debates? Lincoln won with, "You know what they call Douglas in Chicago? Stephen the Satyr. They can't tell whether he's a bigger drunk or a bigger man-whore. You know why he wears those tall collars? Too hide the bruises made by his trollops' thighs."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 25, 2016 04:21 PM (Nwg0u)
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Hurt him with evangelicals? Da fuq? Trump already won the south, Cruz is pretty hurt with evangelicals already.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 25, 2016 04:20 PM (tM4uk)
Can someone tell me what evangelicals that don't go to church are called? Is evangelical just code speak for white dudes?
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 25, 2016 04:20 PM (tM4uk)
Can someone tell me what evangelicals that don't go to church are called? Is evangelical just code speak for white dudes?
Posted by: Draki at March 25, 2016 04:22 PM (0eidE)
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Well we got to 24 comments before the 25th commenter decided to blow out the margins a bit. Good job idiot
Posted by: NativeNH at March 25, 2016 04:22 PM (+k6Wu)
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Excellent. Fly my monkeys, fly!! *steeples fingers*
Posted by: Cankles at March 25, 2016 04:22 PM (JO9+V)
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Is Pat Paulson running this time? Because I would vote for him this time.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 25, 2016 04:22 PM (YRJhU)
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this thing hits cruz harder than anyone else because he's running as the super-religious guy. If you are running as that guy you got to live the part, unless your story involves some kind of conversion, which Cruz's doesn't. Not fair but that's life.
If this thing is true Cruz will never never win the general election, never. take that into account
If this thing is true Cruz will never never win the general election, never. take that into account
Posted by: Ben H at March 25, 2016 04:22 PM (gJEsZ)
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You know who this benefits?
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at March 25, 2016 04:23 PM (JwLCI)
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The only thing I'm interested in for this election is the Supreme Court. And the only one I trust will make an appropriate conservative nomination is Ted Cruz. All the rest is just bullshit. Political theater.
Posted by: Pete Seria at March 25, 2016 04:23 PM (/pOl7)
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I'm just starting to try and figure out the delegate game. Legal Insurrection has a article how in Louisiana Cruz might get more delegates than Trump even though Trump beat Ted by 3.6pts. I heard on the radio a Trump supporter saying the same thing could happen in Pennsylvania so he was warning to find out what delegates were supporting Trump, I wang to know what delegates are supporting Ted.
Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2016 04:23 PM (fizMZ)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 25, 2016 04:23 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: JEB! for President GOP Donors for Life at March 25, 2016 04:23 PM (v0YLX)
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Roger Stone said a couple of weeks ago that rumors were flying all over town about some kind of scandal of this type but that he didn't know first-hand if any of it was true. This is on video on Infowars.
Is this NE's scoop on Roger Stone?
Is this NE's scoop on Roger Stone?
Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at March 25, 2016 04:23 PM (TFWFz)
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btw cruz could simply have said ' I haven't had any affairs' why didn't he
Posted by: Ben H at March 25, 2016 04:23 PM (gJEsZ)
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For the record, this supports the conspiracy theory I floated in the other thread that GOP was behind this... a two-bird-one-stone hit on both Trump and Cruz. It benefits Kasich.... which is what they really want, open convention.
Posted by: Not Buyin It at March 25, 2016 04:05 PM
......Could be. But Gateway Pundit posted a story about the anonymous hacker group as being the initial source, they posted like 10 days ago and told Cruz to leave the race or they'd drop this story. I don't know what to believe anymore or who's behind what. It's all too fucking exhausting. But your theory isn't bad and if the Gopee got the two front runners tearing each others throats out it would definitely help their cause.
Posted by: Not Buyin It at March 25, 2016 04:05 PM
......Could be. But Gateway Pundit posted a story about the anonymous hacker group as being the initial source, they posted like 10 days ago and told Cruz to leave the race or they'd drop this story. I don't know what to believe anymore or who's behind what. It's all too fucking exhausting. But your theory isn't bad and if the Gopee got the two front runners tearing each others throats out it would definitely help their cause.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 25, 2016 04:24 PM (btH0m)
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Posted by: Yo, Ace at March 25, 2016 04:21 PM (ywZNz)
Are you mental? You're suggesting Drew and Ace brought us Trump?
hahahahahahaha
Are you mental? You're suggesting Drew and Ace brought us Trump?
hahahahahahaha
Posted by: Seems legit at March 25, 2016 04:24 PM (U+nHb)
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Whoa Nellie! The guiy writing under name "Ace" is becoming unhinged, and getting close to needing an intervention.... We won't even mention Donald McRonald, but as far as low politics go Teddy Brylcreme is the clear leader in the Republican field.
This vitriol the guy writing under the name of "Ace" has for Dondi is bordering on needing a restraining order... Why?
The whole thing is becoming what we call on Calle Ocho, a fracasa.
Time to start over. Carly? Bobby? Anybody? Bueller?
This vitriol the guy writing under the name of "Ace" has for Dondi is bordering on needing a restraining order... Why?
The whole thing is becoming what we call on Calle Ocho, a fracasa.
Time to start over. Carly? Bobby? Anybody? Bueller?
Posted by: Tattaglia in Miami at March 25, 2016 04:24 PM (zmZ2x)
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I heard that this was the work of Anonymous hackers.
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at March 25, 2016 04:24 PM (kfoLf)
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Presidential campaign 1884
Blaine, Blaine, James G. Blaine, The Continental Liar from the State of Maine
Ma, Ma, Where's my Pa, Gone to the White House, Ha, Ha, Ha
Blaine, Blaine, James G. Blaine, The Continental Liar from the State of Maine
Ma, Ma, Where's my Pa, Gone to the White House, Ha, Ha, Ha
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 25, 2016 04:24 PM (45oDG)
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How about a little Santana to bring peace and harmony to the thread?
Oye como va
Mi ritmo
Bueno pa gozar
Mulata
Oye como va
Mi ritmo
Bueno pa gozar
Mulata
Posted by: Gillroy Peougo at March 25, 2016 04:24 PM (a7RSp)
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Shit ain't all bad. Anybody in the mood for a fel-good story ?
Me and my old man were not friendly in my teens and twenties. Called a truce in my thirties, with a ban on all politics.
Now ? Turns out ... We are in sync regarding how fucked up all this is. Just got there from different directions.
Me and my old man were not friendly in my teens and twenties. Called a truce in my thirties, with a ban on all politics.
Now ? Turns out ... We are in sync regarding how fucked up all this is. Just got there from different directions.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 25, 2016 04:24 PM (zfvHs)
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this thing hits cruz harder than anyone else because he's running as the super-religious guy.
20 years ago his behavior was called "ordinary." Now its "super-religious"
20 years ago his behavior was called "ordinary." Now its "super-religious"
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:24 PM (39g3+)
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>>>Ace, I hope in a moment of clarity you can look back and see the role that you played in all this. You and Drew have, since forever ago advocated that we "let it burn". It being the GOP or the country. Whelp, it's burning because so many on "our side" are willing to put our own personal anger ahead of what's best for the United States. Electing a jackass like Trump out of spite is just the natural conclusion to what was born out of Drew M's stupid imagination as an excuse for not getting involved and helping the situation and facilitated by you.
Yeah it was our fault for being betrayed by the establishment, and saying so.
If only we had kept our mouths shut and not spoken up about the obvious!
Maybe we should all just lie all fucking day for political purposes, huh?
Yeah it was our fault for being betrayed by the establishment, and saying so.
If only we had kept our mouths shut and not spoken up about the obvious!
Maybe we should all just lie all fucking day for political purposes, huh?
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:24 PM (dciA+)
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Just listened to Tea's denial -- so Cruz's campaign manager buying rights to Melania's GQ photo shoot and Liz Mair somehow getting those photos for Utah/Mormon FB ad = nothing to do with Cruz.
But Trump knowing the Nation Enquirer guy = Trump 100% responsible for this story.
Ted is full of shit --everyone knows the Rubio people were pushing this hard before Rubio was forced to drop out.
Also, we Trump "garbage people" are pushing this because Trump isn't the one presenting himself, literally, as holier than thou. Ted is.
I remember ace when you complained about how Trump treated an ally re: Breitbart and Michele Fields. How about you ace? I know I don't comment that much, but I've supported this blog for 8 years, giving you clicks, hitting the tip jar, and buying absolutely everything on line via the Amazon portal. And you call me a garbage person?
I hope you pull your head out of your ass. If not, I wish you well. I won't be polluting up your blog any more.
But Trump knowing the Nation Enquirer guy = Trump 100% responsible for this story.
Ted is full of shit --everyone knows the Rubio people were pushing this hard before Rubio was forced to drop out.
Also, we Trump "garbage people" are pushing this because Trump isn't the one presenting himself, literally, as holier than thou. Ted is.
I remember ace when you complained about how Trump treated an ally re: Breitbart and Michele Fields. How about you ace? I know I don't comment that much, but I've supported this blog for 8 years, giving you clicks, hitting the tip jar, and buying absolutely everything on line via the Amazon portal. And you call me a garbage person?
I hope you pull your head out of your ass. If not, I wish you well. I won't be polluting up your blog any more.
Posted by: Dancing Queen at March 25, 2016 04:24 PM (cN1tG)
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For the record, this supports the conspiracy theory I floated in the other thread that GOP was behind this... a two-bird-one-stone hit on both Trump and Cruz. It benefits Kasich.... which is what they really want, open convention.
Posted by: Not Buyin It at March 25, 2016 04:05 PM (HeK4a)
That's the feeling I am getting. If Rubio's people knew about it, it was establishment known. And it fits with the recent trend of Ryan bashing Trump in all but name, and calling for unity. Didn't Walker just come out and pump Ryan or was he just talking favorably about an open convention selection?
For the record, this supports the conspiracy theory I floated in the other thread that GOP was behind this... a two-bird-one-stone hit on both Trump and Cruz. It benefits Kasich.... which is what they really want, open convention.
Posted by: Not Buyin It at March 25, 2016 04:05 PM (HeK4a)
That's the feeling I am getting. If Rubio's people knew about it, it was establishment known. And it fits with the recent trend of Ryan bashing Trump in all but name, and calling for unity. Didn't Walker just come out and pump Ryan or was he just talking favorably about an open convention selection?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian at March 25, 2016 04:25 PM (QvJot)
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Plus, Mario's people are fucking dumb.
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:14 PM (dciA+)
They *are* dumb, yet, they know the only hope is a brokered convention. I think Liz didn't think that far ahead but she's not invested in making Cruz look good in the long term.
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:14 PM (dciA+)
They *are* dumb, yet, they know the only hope is a brokered convention. I think Liz didn't think that far ahead but she's not invested in making Cruz look good in the long term.
Posted by: SarahW at March 25, 2016 04:25 PM (3fTXW)
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Plus, Mario's people are fucking dumb.
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:14 PM (dciA+)
Yeah but "spray the world with bullets" isn't exactly smart either.
I could see a bunch of people sitting in a room saying "eh, run the ad, at worst it hurts both of them."
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:14 PM (dciA+)
Yeah but "spray the world with bullets" isn't exactly smart either.
I could see a bunch of people sitting in a room saying "eh, run the ad, at worst it hurts both of them."
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 25, 2016 04:25 PM (tM4uk)
137
On election day, raise your fist in a solemn massage of unity for colossal Hillary, otherwise she cannot feel your pain
Posted by: derit at March 25, 2016 04:25 PM (OC+TJ)
138
The reason I finally opted for Cruz instead of Trump is Bill Clinton, and I voted for Clinton. Twice. Somewhere in the late Nineties, I took a hard look at the guy. And then I took a hard look at myself, and decided that I would never vote for someone again that wasn't basically a decent human being.
I got by with that marker from then until this election, when it came down to Trump and Cruz. Cruz got the nod.
If it is Trump in November, then Trump it is, as opposed to Hillary Clinton.
I have something personal against that family, because they showed me up as an amoral bastard back then.
I got by with that marker from then until this election, when it came down to Trump and Cruz. Cruz got the nod.
If it is Trump in November, then Trump it is, as opposed to Hillary Clinton.
I have something personal against that family, because they showed me up as an amoral bastard back then.
Posted by: kraken at March 25, 2016 04:25 PM (sdxPm)
139
Super-religious = is not embarrassed by super religious father
Posted by: wooga at March 25, 2016 04:25 PM (sX4qB)
140
I'm old and jaded, and couldn't care less if this is true or not. Cruz has a stellar record as Asst. AG and as a senator and would make a good president. Better than Hillary, Sanders Trump, Kasich, or Rubio. And hopefully he will ask Carly Fiorina to be VP. Still can't get over that the Enquirer is run by a Pecker, though. That blows my mind.
Posted by: Mary at March 25, 2016 04:25 PM (2ly7u)
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 25, 2016 04:26 PM (RcpcZ)
Posted by: Gillroy Peougo at March 25, 2016 04:26 PM (a7RSp)
143
>>>How about amongst Cruz cultists?
not so much. we weren't shopping marco rubio rumors to the media.
not so much. we weren't shopping marco rubio rumors to the media.
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:26 PM (dciA+)
144
Thank you for this:
"There are sociopaths in our party. Sociopaths are attracted to politics, because it gives them license for cruelty under the alleged justification that "it's all for the greater good" and "it's just politics.""
"There are sociopaths in our party. Sociopaths are attracted to politics, because it gives them license for cruelty under the alleged justification that "it's all for the greater good" and "it's just politics.""
Posted by: Crowley at March 25, 2016 04:27 PM (Bzhs1)
145
123 btw cruz could simply have said ' I haven't had any affairs' why didn't he
Posted by: Ben H at March 25, 2016 04:23 PM (gJEsZ)
Marco Rubio could simply have said "I haven't swallowed horse semen" why didn't he
Posted by: Ben H at March 25, 2016 04:23 PM (gJEsZ)
Marco Rubio could simply have said "I haven't swallowed horse semen" why didn't he
Posted by: wooga at March 25, 2016 04:27 PM (sX4qB)
146
80. Why aren't my Comments posting?
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Cheap fucker, what do you expect with cardboard subscription?
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Cheap fucker, what do you expect with cardboard subscription?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2016 04:27 PM (voOPb)
147
Having dinner with a woman, then coming out of the same hotel with her?
I've been TDY with a group of other government types who all stay at the same hotel. I have often gone to dinner with one or two of them, and we end up eating breakfast together and leaving at the same time.
We weren't having an affair.
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Dude, you're doing it wrong.
I've been TDY with a group of other government types who all stay at the same hotel. I have often gone to dinner with one or two of them, and we end up eating breakfast together and leaving at the same time.
We weren't having an affair.
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Dude, you're doing it wrong.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 25, 2016 04:28 PM (Nwg0u)
148
You know why he wears those tall collars? Too hide the bruises made by his trollops' thighs."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 25, 2016 04:21 PM (Nwg0u)
Second look at Stephen Douglas?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 25, 2016 04:21 PM (Nwg0u)
Second look at Stephen Douglas?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 25, 2016 04:28 PM (q1FtT)
149
Kasich, if that piece of soggy bread were to come out of a brokered convention on top. FUCK IT ALL.
Posted by: Seems legit at March 25, 2016 04:28 PM (U+nHb)
150
But it's not at all possible that a member of the Cruz campaign ordered high res copies of Melania from GQ and "shared" them with Liz Mair? Hmnn..
Posted by: Joely Joe at March 25, 2016 04:28 PM (iuv91)
151
Some Rubio supporters were among those peddling this garbage. Thus, All Rubio supporters deserve whatever is coming to them. And of course the ex-candidate himself, completely apart from any other disagreements one might have, is held responsible, though zero evidence exists the ex-candidate even knew about it..
One could justify an awful lot of not-so-good things by thinking this way.
One could justify an awful lot of not-so-good things by thinking this way.
Posted by: spongeworthy at March 25, 2016 04:28 PM (mrfTe)
152
I believe "Trump Garbage people" refers not to all supporters of Trump-but to those pushing the story-some of which are pictured on the linked video.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 25, 2016 04:28 PM (w4NZ8)
153
>>>I remember ace when you complained about how Trump treated an ally re: Breitbart and Michele Fields. How about you ace? I know I don't comment that much, but I've supported this blog for 8 years, giving you clicks, hitting the tip jar, and buying absolutely everything on line via the Amazon portal. And you call me a garbage person?
sorry about that -- I am speaking of operatives and surrogates. I meant the Garbage People pushing the Trump line on TV.
sorry about that -- I am speaking of operatives and surrogates. I meant the Garbage People pushing the Trump line on TV.
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:28 PM (dciA+)
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so what if marco people were bandying this around? if its true it hurts cruz's chance to win the general. understand, put personal disgust/approval to the site, that is the problem, he won't win the general if this is true
Posted by: Ben H at March 25, 2016 04:29 PM (gJEsZ)
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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 25, 2016 04:28 PM (Nwg0u)
I dunno, if you're having a secret affair, wouldn't it make more sense to not come out at the same time?
I dunno, if you're having a secret affair, wouldn't it make more sense to not come out at the same time?
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 25, 2016 04:29 PM (tM4uk)
156
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Posted by: Gillroy Peougo at March 25, 2016 04:29 PM (a7RSp)
157
Maybe we should all just lie all fucking day for political purposes, huh?
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:24 PM (dciA+)
Ace,
It's too late, they are on to you.
It's only a matter of time before they have the smoking gun, that you have been in the pocket of Let It Burn and Cruz and probably the neocon Joooos.
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:24 PM (dciA+)
Ace,
It's too late, they are on to you.
It's only a matter of time before they have the smoking gun, that you have been in the pocket of Let It Burn and Cruz and probably the neocon Joooos.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 25, 2016 04:29 PM (Zu3d9)
158
Marco Rubio could simply have said "I haven't swallowed horse semen" why didn't he
Posted by: wooga at March 25, 2016 04:27 PM (sX4qB)
----Almost cried laughing. Thanks.
Posted by: wooga at March 25, 2016 04:27 PM (sX4qB)
----Almost cried laughing. Thanks.
Posted by: Seems legit at March 25, 2016 04:29 PM (U+nHb)
Posted by: concrete girl at March 25, 2016 04:29 PM (ceWrl)
160
If you don't want to hear about Marco's "optimistic Reaganesque spirit," can I still fawn over what a nice man John Kasich is or whatever the fuck he says about himself?
Posted by: Naes at March 25, 2016 04:29 PM (Ypc8j)
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>>>But it's not at all possible that a member of the Cruz campaign ordered high res copies of Melania from GQ and "shared" them with Liz Mair? Hmnn..
why is Ted Cruz's intermediation required to get a photograph that was published worldwide in GQ?
why is Ted Cruz's intermediation required to get a photograph that was published worldwide in GQ?
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:30 PM (dciA+)
162
"There are sociopaths in our party. Sociopaths are attracted to politics, because it gives them license for cruelty under the alleged justification that "it's all for the greater good" and "it's just politics."
Very old news.
Very old news.
Posted by: Meremortal, at March 25, 2016 04:30 PM (3myMJ)
163
For Good Friday:
Andrae Crouch: "The Blood Will Never Lose Its Power"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiNlbawTMDw
The blood that Jesus shed for me,
Way back on Calvary -
The blood that gives me strength
From day to day -
It will never lose its power.
Hang on. Sunday's comin.
For Good Friday:
Andrae Crouch: "The Blood Will Never Lose Its Power"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiNlbawTMDw
The blood that Jesus shed for me,
Way back on Calvary -
The blood that gives me strength
From day to day -
It will never lose its power.
Hang on. Sunday's comin.
Posted by: grammie winger, clinging to the old rugged cross at March 25, 2016 04:30 PM (dFi94)
164
So who is the looser the GOPE going to run in 2020?
For a starting point...
Dole
McCain
Romney
Jeb
??
For a starting point...
Dole
McCain
Romney
Jeb
??
Posted by: Yo! at March 25, 2016 04:30 PM (GwIKd)
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Posted by: spongeworthy at March 25, 2016 04:28 PM (mrfTe)
Welcome to the Trump age of politics. Let's start slitting throats post haste!
Welcome to the Trump age of politics. Let's start slitting throats post haste!
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 25, 2016 04:30 PM (tM4uk)
166
can I still fawn over what a nice man John Kasich is or whatever the fuck he says about himself?
Nice AND a natural-born sorter.
Nice AND a natural-born sorter.
Posted by: John Kasich's Mom at March 25, 2016 04:31 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Mr. Ed at March 25, 2016 04:31 PM (uyrlv)
168
The establishment's goal is: if it can't turn us, turn us off.
Posted by: Der Ubertrumpen at March 25, 2016 04:31 PM (bGLSw)
169
I don't get the anger.
If true, and you seem to suspect it is, this is utterly relevant to Cruz's electability in the general election. Pro Hillary media will use without hesitation and it destroys Cruz's campaign immediately, due to preacher Ted character he has built up.
Preacher Ted could never have been president with the knowledge of 5 affairs floating around among the GOP pundit class. The truth would come out sooner or later.
The Rubio people seem to have shopped it around, but they couldn't get anyone to run with it and save Rubio. So, in a spirit of #NEVERTRUMP, they sat on it.
It's kind of irresponsible if you want the GOP to win, but if you're a pure #neverTrump supporter it's kind of admirable that they let their boy go down in order to preserve Cruz's long shot to stop Trump. You should thank them I guess.
You should be mad at Cruz for running with this hanging over his head and creating a situation where the last remaining non-Trump candidate is fatally flawed.
In hindsight, Cruz might actually have been the worst candidate all along, because Trump has likely known about this weakness all along, through Pierson.
If true, and you seem to suspect it is, this is utterly relevant to Cruz's electability in the general election. Pro Hillary media will use without hesitation and it destroys Cruz's campaign immediately, due to preacher Ted character he has built up.
Preacher Ted could never have been president with the knowledge of 5 affairs floating around among the GOP pundit class. The truth would come out sooner or later.
The Rubio people seem to have shopped it around, but they couldn't get anyone to run with it and save Rubio. So, in a spirit of #NEVERTRUMP, they sat on it.
It's kind of irresponsible if you want the GOP to win, but if you're a pure #neverTrump supporter it's kind of admirable that they let their boy go down in order to preserve Cruz's long shot to stop Trump. You should thank them I guess.
You should be mad at Cruz for running with this hanging over his head and creating a situation where the last remaining non-Trump candidate is fatally flawed.
In hindsight, Cruz might actually have been the worst candidate all along, because Trump has likely known about this weakness all along, through Pierson.
Posted by: Just Sayin' at March 25, 2016 04:31 PM (2kjDY)
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What the heck is "super-religious" - is that like "ultra conservative" or "hard right-wing?" Sounds like someone's been reading the MSM style guide on how to portray someone as oooooh extreeeeeme11ty!!!!
Posted by: Lizzy at March 25, 2016 04:32 PM (NOIQH)
171
163
For Good Friday:
Andrae Crouch: "The Blood Will Never Lose Its Power"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiNlbawTMDw
The blood that Jesus shed for me,
Way back on Calvary -
The blood that gives me strength
From day to day -
It will never lose its power.
Hang on. Sunday's comin.
Posted by: grammie winger, clinging to the old rugged cross at March 25, 2016 04:30 PM (dFi94)
I've always wondered why the Cross became the big thing in Christianity. The Empty Tomb seems a whole lot more important. Without that, the whole thing is pretty much pointless.
For Good Friday:
Andrae Crouch: "The Blood Will Never Lose Its Power"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiNlbawTMDw
The blood that Jesus shed for me,
Way back on Calvary -
The blood that gives me strength
From day to day -
It will never lose its power.
Hang on. Sunday's comin.
Posted by: grammie winger, clinging to the old rugged cross at March 25, 2016 04:30 PM (dFi94)
I've always wondered why the Cross became the big thing in Christianity. The Empty Tomb seems a whole lot more important. Without that, the whole thing is pretty much pointless.
Posted by: kraken at March 25, 2016 04:32 PM (sdxPm)
172
I saw Trollops' Thighs open for The Cramps in 1981
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:32 PM (39g3+)
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http://putlocker.plus/
Lots of streaming movies online. If you want to save them, just right click and save.
Lots of streaming movies online. If you want to save them, just right click and save.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 25, 2016 04:32 PM (iQIUe)
174
Yes, I believe Rubio has an incentive to push this "The Thing" story even now. The only reason the GOP is backing Cruz now is because Jeb and Rubio are out. Cruz is blaming Trump for the story, and the media supports and is giving coverage to that side. That can hurt Trump. I believe that Cruz is acting/being used as a spoiler against the Donald. I also am of the opinion that whether this story is true or not it will hurt Cruz from here on out.
With both Trump and Cruz unable to reach 1237 the GOP then brings Rubio in at the Convention.
With both Trump and Cruz unable to reach 1237 the GOP then brings Rubio in at the Convention.
Posted by: Martell at March 25, 2016 04:32 PM (Uv6nR)
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You should be mad at Cruz for running with this hanging over his head and creating a situation where the last remaining non-Trump candidate is fatally flawed.
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OFFS
You have to assume he's guilty. It's ridiculous.
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OFFS
You have to assume he's guilty. It's ridiculous.
Posted by: Seems legit at March 25, 2016 04:32 PM (U+nHb)
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Posted by: Just Sayin' at March 25, 2016 04:31 PM (2kjDY)
So Rubio knew about it.
Which means the establishment know about it.
And they held it in their pockets while trying to smear him for the shutdown....why?
So Rubio knew about it.
Which means the establishment know about it.
And they held it in their pockets while trying to smear him for the shutdown....why?
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 25, 2016 04:33 PM (tM4uk)
177
So.. he said, she said.. GOP operatives, someone in Rubio camp said this.. yeah that's real proof right there. I'm just gonna hang my hat on that one and vote for... shit.. nobody.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 25, 2016 04:33 PM (CNHr1)
178
Lol. I ran into a coven of Marco monsters the other day on Twitter. They are more pathetic than trumpkins because at least trump is still in the race. Marco is out but these people were still desperately clinging to hope. And desperately disparaging Cruz and trump supporters.
they are lunatic and vile.--------ace
I think we ran into the same type of Marco supporters as I had the same opinion of them.
they are lunatic and vile.--------ace
I think we ran into the same type of Marco supporters as I had the same opinion of them.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW SPI at March 25, 2016 04:33 PM (+aCe4)
179
Well, I'm putting my McCain/Palin sign up this November.
Well, I'm putting my McCain/Palin sign up this November.
Posted by: Gillroy Peougo at March 25, 2016 04:33 PM (a7RSp)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 25, 2016 04:33 PM (NOIQH)
181
133 Dancing Queen: "Also, we Trump "garbage people" are pushing this because Trump isn't the one presenting himself, literally, as holier than thou. Ted is."
So you're okay holding Trump's opponent to a higher standard than you hold Trump?
You're not garbage people. You are choosing an extreme option for an extreme problem (Trump is chemo for a tumor - or he at least he promises to be.)
But don't eat your own. That's energy that could be spent taking down Hillary and evangelizing for responsible (economic and foreign policy) leadership.
So you're okay holding Trump's opponent to a higher standard than you hold Trump?
You're not garbage people. You are choosing an extreme option for an extreme problem (Trump is chemo for a tumor - or he at least he promises to be.)
But don't eat your own. That's energy that could be spent taking down Hillary and evangelizing for responsible (economic and foreign policy) leadership.
Posted by: Crowley at March 25, 2016 04:33 PM (Bzhs1)
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Fuck the GOPe.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 25, 2016 04:33 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: JEB! for President GOP Donors for Life at March 25, 2016 04:33 PM (v0YLX)
184
169
In hindsight, eat a dick.
In hindsight, eat a dick.
Posted by: Naes at March 25, 2016 04:33 PM (Ypc8j)
185
Albino Rested and Ready! Reporting for dooody!
Posted by: Juan McCain at March 25, 2016 04:33 PM (btH0m)
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>>>Some Rubio supporters were among those peddling this garbage. Thus, All Rubio supporters deserve whatever is coming to them. And of course the ex-candidate himself, completely apart from any other disagreements one might have, is held responsible, though zero evidence exists the ex-candidate even knew about it..
One could justify an awful lot of not-so-good things by thinking this way.
...
you're right about not tarring all Rubio supporters like this, and I apologize, and I've rewritten to focus my aim on some, mostly the operatives, and the perpetual Twitter bully patrols.
I also made it explicit I meant Trump's garbage people surrogates, operatives, and shills.
But as far as Mario Romo not knowing about this -- ehhhhhh.... okay, if you like.
One could justify an awful lot of not-so-good things by thinking this way.
...
you're right about not tarring all Rubio supporters like this, and I apologize, and I've rewritten to focus my aim on some, mostly the operatives, and the perpetual Twitter bully patrols.
I also made it explicit I meant Trump's garbage people surrogates, operatives, and shills.
But as far as Mario Romo not knowing about this -- ehhhhhh.... okay, if you like.
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:34 PM (dciA+)
187
We are all so boned.
Posted by: chemjeff at March 25, 2016 04:34 PM (+Fl7e)
188
I've always wondered why the Cross became the big thing in Christianity.
The cross is the symbol of the sacrifice, paying the price for our sins, and God's love. The tomb is a beautiful image, but inevitable: death could not hold Him.
The cross is the symbol of the sacrifice, paying the price for our sins, and God's love. The tomb is a beautiful image, but inevitable: death could not hold Him.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:34 PM (39g3+)
189
If you prick a trollop's thigh, does she not breed?
Posted by: derit at March 25, 2016 04:34 PM (OC+TJ)
190
i will note that Mario Romo's campaign did not provide comment to the Daily Beast when the Daily Beast called for comment.
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:34 PM (dciA+)
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Posted by: Lizzy at March 25, 2016 04:33 PM (NOIQH)
There's a cave in Okinawa that's empty.......
There's a cave in Okinawa that's empty.......
Posted by: kraken at March 25, 2016 04:34 PM (sdxPm)
192
In hindsight, Cruz might actually have been the worst candidate all along, because Trump has likely known about this weakness all along, through Pierson.
Posted by: Just Sayin' at March 25, 2016 04:31 PM (2kjDY)
Horeshit. Do you think he would have run "He's a Canadian!!!!" or this first? That would have killed "Preacher Ted" (OMG, how lame, get over yourself) Cruz *before* Iowa.
Posted by: Just Sayin' at March 25, 2016 04:31 PM (2kjDY)
Horeshit. Do you think he would have run "He's a Canadian!!!!" or this first? That would have killed "Preacher Ted" (OMG, how lame, get over yourself) Cruz *before* Iowa.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at March 25, 2016 04:35 PM (4rFke)
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#140, I know, right? As a single female, when I was younger (and still looking to get married), I made a list of last names of men I wouldn't want to marry. Pecker was at the top of the list.
_________________________________
The only supporters I have problems with on twitter are the orange one's more white supremacist supporters-things like copying one's avi and placing it behind the door in a gas chamber with Orangey standing there getting ready to push the button, calling me vulgar names, all for tweeting that I'm anti-orangey guy. I recognize that political types use twitter and go to great lengths to talk up their preferred candidate and demean the rest.
_________________________________
The only supporters I have problems with on twitter are the orange one's more white supremacist supporters-things like copying one's avi and placing it behind the door in a gas chamber with Orangey standing there getting ready to push the button, calling me vulgar names, all for tweeting that I'm anti-orangey guy. I recognize that political types use twitter and go to great lengths to talk up their preferred candidate and demean the rest.
Posted by: Theresa D., the Fab one at March 25, 2016 04:35 PM (MeXxt)
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grammie ...
... as a dude raised more in than out of religion, who still just does not fit in with organized religion ...
... I underestimated the basic moral underpinning I learned from it. I really did.
... as a dude raised more in than out of religion, who still just does not fit in with organized religion ...
... I underestimated the basic moral underpinning I learned from it. I really did.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 25, 2016 04:35 PM (zfvHs)
195
@148 Tammy, that was beyond awesome. ;-)
Posted by: A Liberal AoS Reader, Really! at March 25, 2016 04:35 PM (Sqfy2)
196
Pretty sure Trump is behind this. Yeah, it started originally with Rubio, though he never pulled the trigger on it, but Trump and his Bots have picked it up.
Internal polling from Trump must be looking bad on Wisconsin and the upcoming states (that the Trump-bots have been have been assuring us The Donald will surely win) for Stubby Fingered Orange Boy to go all in on this hit piece.
Internal polling from Trump must be looking bad on Wisconsin and the upcoming states (that the Trump-bots have been have been assuring us The Donald will surely win) for Stubby Fingered Orange Boy to go all in on this hit piece.
Posted by: Trumplethinskin at March 25, 2016 04:35 PM (VDovR)
197
Tears.
I enjoy seeing the tears of others
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2016 04:13 PM (voOPb)
All these moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die.
I enjoy seeing the tears of others
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2016 04:13 PM (voOPb)
All these moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die.
Posted by: Roy Batty at March 25, 2016 04:36 PM (JO9+V)
198
Fifty-four Forty or Fight!
Posted by: Grump928(c) at March 25, 2016 04:36 PM (evdj2)
199
>>>
It's kind of irresponsible if you want the GOP to win, but if you're a pure #neverTrump supporter it's kind of admirable that they let their boy go down in order to preserve Cruz's long shot to stop Trump. You should thank them I guess.
according to the Daily Beast, they pushed it to every single outlet they could think of.
In what way is this holding their fire?
It's kind of irresponsible if you want the GOP to win, but if you're a pure #neverTrump supporter it's kind of admirable that they let their boy go down in order to preserve Cruz's long shot to stop Trump. You should thank them I guess.
according to the Daily Beast, they pushed it to every single outlet they could think of.
In what way is this holding their fire?
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:36 PM (dciA+)
200
Seriously... My candidate back in the before time was Scott Walker... Anyway we can go back in time and get him back. He's about the only one I respect.
Posted by: Gov98 at March 25, 2016 04:36 PM (cdCFg)
201
Cruz should sue NE
Posted by: @votermom at March 25, 2016 04:36 PM (nbrY/)
202
183 Second look at Jeb! ?
You know he never got laid by anyone except his wife.
Posted by: JEB! for President GOP Donors for Life at March 25, 2016 04:33 PM (v0YLX)
And his left hand
You know he never got laid by anyone except his wife.
Posted by: JEB! for President GOP Donors for Life at March 25, 2016 04:33 PM (v0YLX)
And his left hand
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2016 04:36 PM (voOPb)
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But as far as Mario Romo not knowing about this -- ehhhhhh.... okay, if you like.
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:34 PM (dciA+)
As I said above, so why didn't the establishment push it to kill Cruz in 2014? Render him...pun not intended impotent during his shutdown run?
Marco played dirty no doubt, and he probably tried to push the oldest push in the book "my opponent had an affair!" But if it were even passable as a story, the GOPe would have dumped it in 2014
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:34 PM (dciA+)
As I said above, so why didn't the establishment push it to kill Cruz in 2014? Render him...pun not intended impotent during his shutdown run?
Marco played dirty no doubt, and he probably tried to push the oldest push in the book "my opponent had an affair!" But if it were even passable as a story, the GOPe would have dumped it in 2014
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at March 25, 2016 04:36 PM (tM4uk)
204
The "thing" sounds more and more likely.... Why if true though didn't anyone use it when Cruz was running for the Senate...
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 04:36 PM (O2RFr)
205
Garbage People?
Family Vibes
https://youtu.be/AlvHRT372qw
Cherry Poppin' Daddies
https://youtu.be/4xNORXC60_4
Family Vibes
https://youtu.be/AlvHRT372qw
Cherry Poppin' Daddies
https://youtu.be/4xNORXC60_4
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:37 PM (39g3+)
206
*weeps*
So, really, that's it? It's really over between us?
*sobs*
Can we still be friends? Call me!
*cries*
So, really, that's it? It's really over between us?
*sobs*
Can we still be friends? Call me!
*cries*
Posted by: Rubio's Garbage at March 25, 2016 04:37 PM (XItbt)
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200 Seriously... My candidate back in the before time was Scott Walker... Anyway we can go back in time and get him back. He's about the only one I respect.
Mine too....
Mine too....
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 04:38 PM (O2RFr)
208
<Rubio monsters> they are lunatic and vile.
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:13 PM (dciA+)
Finally, something we can all agree on!
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:13 PM (dciA+)
Finally, something we can all agree on!
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at March 25, 2016 04:38 PM (kfoLf)
Posted by: Wilbur at March 25, 2016 04:38 PM (ioqGj)
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OTOH if the scandal is real, doesn't matter who is behind it, Dems would eventually use it if Cruz were the nominee.
Posted by: @votermom at March 25, 2016 04:38 PM (nbrY/)
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This campaign isn't very different from prior ones, it's just more coarse. That's because politics reflects the culture it lives within.
I'm so old I can remember when you couldn't say "hell" on TV.
I'm so old I can remember when you couldn't say "hell" on TV.
Posted by: Meremortal, at March 25, 2016 04:38 PM (3myMJ)
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But if it were even passable as a story, the GOPe would have dumped it in 2014
Exactly, if this was known and out there, Cruz who is neck deep in enemies would have had this come out before.
Cruz fans are yelling "Trump did it!" but it hurts Trump too. this is GOPe or the Clinton machine, count on it.
Exactly, if this was known and out there, Cruz who is neck deep in enemies would have had this come out before.
Cruz fans are yelling "Trump did it!" but it hurts Trump too. this is GOPe or the Clinton machine, count on it.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:38 PM (39g3+)
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Posted by: Roy Batty at March 25, 2016 04:36 PM (JO9+V)
Well played, my friend. Well played indeed.
Well played, my friend. Well played indeed.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at March 25, 2016 04:38 PM (4rFke)
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I read on some blog somewhere that Ace got caught doing something not quite natural to some sort of weasel.
I hate to bring it up at all and in fact I think the anonymous writer should reveal him/herself and go to Ace like a man/woman and apologize for saying that Ace got caught doing something not quite natural to some sort of weasel. Also the story about the home brew Valu Rite and the full body laser hair treatment is probably false.
Anyone can do this all day in our new age of multi media outlets and consolidated big media empires. It is bad enough that the WH has "media coordinating" conference calls with the networks that the LIVs don't understand. Now some operative can get some outlet to say that they heard from a friend that Heidi Cruz and Ted ate one of their babies during a secret black mass in East Texas.
I for one, appreciate that Ace uses editorial discretion.
I hate to bring it up at all and in fact I think the anonymous writer should reveal him/herself and go to Ace like a man/woman and apologize for saying that Ace got caught doing something not quite natural to some sort of weasel. Also the story about the home brew Valu Rite and the full body laser hair treatment is probably false.
Anyone can do this all day in our new age of multi media outlets and consolidated big media empires. It is bad enough that the WH has "media coordinating" conference calls with the networks that the LIVs don't understand. Now some operative can get some outlet to say that they heard from a friend that Heidi Cruz and Ted ate one of their babies during a secret black mass in East Texas.
I for one, appreciate that Ace uses editorial discretion.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at March 25, 2016 04:38 PM (NHtMs)
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Off topic, the State Department has ordered a localized travel alert for the entirety of Europe.
Posted by: mega machines at March 25, 2016 04:38 PM (fbovC)
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201 Cruz should sue NE
Posted by: @votermom at March 25, 2016 04:36 PM (nbrY/)
Why?
He's predicted to win the primary on May 10th in Nebraska.
Posted by: @votermom at March 25, 2016 04:36 PM (nbrY/)
Why?
He's predicted to win the primary on May 10th in Nebraska.
Posted by: jwb7605 at March 25, 2016 04:38 PM (DofIg)
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Gov98,
Walker, Perry & Jindal all were on my wish list. I went from maybe on trump to I don't think I can
Walker, Perry & Jindal all were on my wish list. I went from maybe on trump to I don't think I can
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2016 04:38 PM (voOPb)
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o echo I forget who: Everybody is clear on the fact that Trump is mentally ill, right?
Posted by: HiHo at March 25, 2016 04:02 PM (CPk0
Yeah, according to you sane people!
Posted by: HiHo at March 25, 2016 04:02 PM (CPk0
Yeah, according to you sane people!
Posted by: Trump Supporter at March 25, 2016 04:39 PM (XItbt)
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Hey, I'm embarrassed too. I thought Rubio was "the one" about 5 years ago, then his bullshit with Schumer, SCHUMER. It all went south fast.
Posted by: Seems legit at March 25, 2016 04:39 PM (U+nHb)
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Amen.
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at March 25, 2016 04:39 PM (t5zYU)
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210 OTOH if the scandal is real, doesn't matter who is behind it, Dems would eventually use it if Cruz were the nominee.
Exactly, but they would wait to see if Cruz got the nod, then use it....
Exactly, but they would wait to see if Cruz got the nod, then use it....
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 04:39 PM (O2RFr)
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Posted by: Meremortal, at March 25, 2016 04:38 PM (3myMJ)
Man that's old! Milton Berle, Jackie Gleason old....
Man that's old! Milton Berle, Jackie Gleason old....
Posted by: kraken at March 25, 2016 04:39 PM (sdxPm)
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I like the word trollop. It makes me think of carriages and overflowing heaving bosoms.
I like the word trollop. It makes me think of carriages and overflowing heaving bosoms.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 25, 2016 04:39 PM (iQIUe)
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So, could a bear-loving man count on GOP support in 2020? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Leo DiCaprio at March 25, 2016 04:39 PM (TxJGV)
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At least nobody is fighting over whose garbage pail people insulted whose wife first anymore.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 25, 2016 04:40 PM (T78UI)
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20 more min and I'm outa here.. I think I'm pulling the politics plug again this weekend. I can't take what this circus has become and they won't knock down the damn Big Top to end it..
Go Iowa State, Virginia ain't gonna roll over for us.
See ya'll Monday.
Go Iowa State, Virginia ain't gonna roll over for us.
See ya'll Monday.
Posted by: IP at March 25, 2016 04:40 PM (aQQbl)
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Someone thinks this is true. What if it isn't?
169 I don't get the anger.
If true, and you seem to suspect it is, this is utterly relevant to Cruz's electability in the general election. Pro Hillary media will use without hesitation and it destroys Cruz's campaign immediately, due to preacher Ted character he has built up.
Preacher Ted could never have been president with the knowledge of 5 affairs floating around among the GOP pundit class. The truth would come out sooner or later.
The Rubio people seem to have shopped it around, but they couldn't get anyone to run with it and save Rubio. So, in a spirit of #NEVERTRUMP, they sat on it.
It's kind of irresponsible if you want the GOP to win, but if you're a pure #neverTrump supporter it's kind of admirable that they let their boy go down in order to preserve Cruz's long shot to stop Trump. You should thank them I guess.
You should be mad at Cruz for running with this hanging over his head and creating a situation where the last remaining non-Trump candidate is fatally flawed.
In hindsight, Cruz might actually have been the worst candidate all along, because Trump has likely known about this weakness all along, through Pierson.
Posted by: Just Sayin' at March 25, 2016 04:31 PM (2kjDY)
And if Ted and Pierson never bumped uglies?
How would Pierson know she had an affair that never happened?
169 I don't get the anger.
If true, and you seem to suspect it is, this is utterly relevant to Cruz's electability in the general election. Pro Hillary media will use without hesitation and it destroys Cruz's campaign immediately, due to preacher Ted character he has built up.
Preacher Ted could never have been president with the knowledge of 5 affairs floating around among the GOP pundit class. The truth would come out sooner or later.
The Rubio people seem to have shopped it around, but they couldn't get anyone to run with it and save Rubio. So, in a spirit of #NEVERTRUMP, they sat on it.
It's kind of irresponsible if you want the GOP to win, but if you're a pure #neverTrump supporter it's kind of admirable that they let their boy go down in order to preserve Cruz's long shot to stop Trump. You should thank them I guess.
You should be mad at Cruz for running with this hanging over his head and creating a situation where the last remaining non-Trump candidate is fatally flawed.
In hindsight, Cruz might actually have been the worst candidate all along, because Trump has likely known about this weakness all along, through Pierson.
Posted by: Just Sayin' at March 25, 2016 04:31 PM (2kjDY)
And if Ted and Pierson never bumped uglies?
How would Pierson know she had an affair that never happened?
Posted by: rd at March 25, 2016 04:40 PM (v0YLX)
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I'm so old I can remember when you couldn't say "hell" on TV.
Remember the first toilet flush on TV? It wasn't all that long ago that people refused to vote for someone who had an affair, now its about who had the most and how hot they were.
We've become France.
Remember the first toilet flush on TV? It wasn't all that long ago that people refused to vote for someone who had an affair, now its about who had the most and how hot they were.
We've become France.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:40 PM (39g3+)
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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2016 04:38 PM (voOPb)
Start of a good joke line: So, Walker, Perry, and Jindal walk into a bar........
Start of a good joke line: So, Walker, Perry, and Jindal walk into a bar........
Posted by: kraken at March 25, 2016 04:41 PM (sdxPm)
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>>Off topic, the State Department has ordered a localized travel alert for the entirety of Europe.
Have they gotten around to saying how many Americans were harmed in the Brussels attacks, or Obama making any acknowledgement that American lives were lost?
Not even phoning it in - seems like they don't want to even discuss it. Might detract from his glorious foreign policy trip.
Have they gotten around to saying how many Americans were harmed in the Brussels attacks, or Obama making any acknowledgement that American lives were lost?
Not even phoning it in - seems like they don't want to even discuss it. Might detract from his glorious foreign policy trip.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 25, 2016 04:41 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 04:41 PM (O2RFr)
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If we got Trump in 2016, is Ted Nugget possible in 2020?
Posted by: Yo! at March 25, 2016 04:41 PM (GwIKd)
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There is a bright spot today, some of the comments on this thread made me LOL like a 14 year old girl.
Posted by: Seems legit at March 25, 2016 04:41 PM (U+nHb)
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Well. The truth will come out hopefully eventually. Hopefully it's all bullshit and it doesn't damage Ted. If it's not he's going to lose some support with evangelicals. Not that people can't survive this but he's sold himself as that. I do laugh though (and not in a humorous way) that the same people admonishing others not to rush to judgment about Cruz had zero problem rushing to believe this is Trump's doing. (It could be, but we don't know.) Now we have some people who understandably don't like Trump hoping that there will be a brokered convention. Well you're a fucking hypocrite then if you've ever railed on the establishment crowning the candidates. Apparently it's o.k. when you don't like the guy, then you're all for them taking out your enemy. Bloody hypocrites. I can't stand Trump but the hypocrisy witnessed by these folks now clamoring for the establishment to step in is pathetic. Don't ever bitch about them again. And if you're that moronic to actually vote for Hillary Vs. abstaining then don't bitch ever again either.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 25, 2016 04:41 PM (btH0m)
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Texas elected Cruz after the Democrat machine, the GOPe, and his multi-millionaire opponent spent their pockets out on opposition research. The bottom line is there's no there there.
He's clean as a whistle.
He's clean as a whistle.
Posted by: Ralph at March 25, 2016 04:41 PM (qZIkn)
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196 Pretty sure Trump is behind this. Yeah, it started originally with Rubio, though he never pulled the trigger on it, but Trump and his Bots have picked it up.
Internal polling from Trump must be looking bad on Wisconsin and the upcoming states (that the Trump-bots have been have been assuring us The Donald will surely win) for Stubby Fingered Orange Boy to go all in on this hit piece.
Posted by: Trumplethinskin at March 25, 2016 04:35 PM (VDovR)
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Trump Derangement Syndrome is a sad, sad disease.
Internal polling from Trump must be looking bad on Wisconsin and the upcoming states (that the Trump-bots have been have been assuring us The Donald will surely win) for Stubby Fingered Orange Boy to go all in on this hit piece.
Posted by: Trumplethinskin at March 25, 2016 04:35 PM (VDovR)
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Trump Derangement Syndrome is a sad, sad disease.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 25, 2016 04:42 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at March 25, 2016 04:43 PM (evdj2)
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Wait, so the guy with a "punchable face" has had 5 affairs???
Posted by: chemjeff at March 25, 2016 04:43 PM (+Fl7e)
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I don't really care if Teddy fucked 5 women. But since the Trump Hate Brigade is losing its shit over this, fuck it.....
Ted Cruz should be ashamed of himself. This is disgusting. How can anyone vote for such a man to the most important office in the land. For shame Mr. Cruz, for shame.
Ted Cruz should be ashamed of himself. This is disgusting. How can anyone vote for such a man to the most important office in the land. For shame Mr. Cruz, for shame.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 25, 2016 04:43 PM (0LHZx)
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Cruz called it garbage and said it came from Trump....
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 04:43 PM (O2RFr)
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We've become France.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:40 PM (39g3+)
You're welcome.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:40 PM (39g3+)
You're welcome.
Posted by: Barack Obama at March 25, 2016 04:44 PM (XItbt)
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Then I Just I Hate You, and I Hate Your Ass Face!
http://tinyurl.com/mylp54c
http://tinyurl.com/mylp54c
Posted by: Corky St.Clair at March 25, 2016 04:44 PM (w+mZJ)
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Have they gotten around to saying how many Americans
were harmed in the Brussels attacks, or Obama making any
acknowledgement that American lives were lost?
Not even phoning it in - seems like they don't want to even discuss it. Might detract from his glorious foreign policy trip.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 25, 2016 04:41 PM (NOIQH)
People who fly international tend to fly their home team brand.
were harmed in the Brussels attacks, or Obama making any
acknowledgement that American lives were lost?
Not even phoning it in - seems like they don't want to even discuss it. Might detract from his glorious foreign policy trip.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 25, 2016 04:41 PM (NOIQH)
People who fly international tend to fly their home team brand.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 25, 2016 04:44 PM (T78UI)
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Unless a Trump-bot can produce pictures of Cruz actually banging a 'trollop' other than his wife, this is an epic fail.
Posted by: Trumplethinskin at March 25, 2016 04:44 PM (VDovR)
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Moo ... Neither one of these guys are handling shit well. They just are not.
There's no logic to what either are doing. Not a bit.
There's no logic to what either are doing. Not a bit.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 25, 2016 04:44 PM (zfvHs)
Posted by: The Barrel at March 25, 2016 04:44 PM (CL5j3)
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We've become France.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:40 PM (39g3+)
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Deodorant has been banned? Fuck.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:40 PM (39g3+)
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Deodorant has been banned? Fuck.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 25, 2016 04:44 PM (0LHZx)
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237 Texas elected Cruz after the Democrat machine, the GOPe, and his multi-millionaire opponent spent their pockets out on opposition research. The bottom line is there's no there there.
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I lived in Texas at the time, it was a rough race, you are correct if it was true that shit would have been hitting the fan during that race.
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I lived in Texas at the time, it was a rough race, you are correct if it was true that shit would have been hitting the fan during that race.
Posted by: Seems legit at March 25, 2016 04:44 PM (U+nHb)
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So if an unamed candidate slept with unamed prostitutes who had unamed STD's. Would that possibly cause the unamed candidates unamed wife to fall into a mental breakdown ?
It all sounds so serious.
It all sounds so serious.
Posted by: Drider at March 25, 2016 04:44 PM (6Xbsz)
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this thing hits cruz harder than anyone else because he's running as the super-religious guy.
20 years ago his behavior was called "ordinary." Now its "super-religious"
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:24 PM (39g3+)
Yeah, I don't think there is anything ordinary about the level that Cruz is painting himself as. I have nothing against the religious that are not head choppers, but you would think he is running for pastor in chief. That's not ordinary for 20 years ago.
this thing hits cruz harder than anyone else because he's running as the super-religious guy.
20 years ago his behavior was called "ordinary." Now its "super-religious"
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:24 PM (39g3+)
Yeah, I don't think there is anything ordinary about the level that Cruz is painting himself as. I have nothing against the religious that are not head choppers, but you would think he is running for pastor in chief. That's not ordinary for 20 years ago.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian at March 25, 2016 04:45 PM (QvJot)
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"Oh One Last Thing: I don't even want to read about Mario Romo's "optimistic, positive, hopeful view of America" ever afuckingain. "
You ought not to swear too many blood oaths over that, as he's got a legit 35% shot to be Cruz's vice president. He might even grow in that office under the tutelage of someone who actually knows what he's doing.
I don't find the Rubio people objectionable the way I found people who are *still* with Trump, or who backed the Bush restoration. The Rubio fans were like Carson fans: they weren't as smart as they thought they were, and they thought they had a clever idea of the way things worked, and they were wrong. The Republican Obama thing was never going to work because Republicans are not Democrats and ESPECIALLY because the big media will not carry a Republican Obama on a litter, but instead will descend on him with sticks and rocks.
Also, Ted Cruz is kind of a dick. That's why I'm voting for him. But I don't hold it too much against the GOPe for getting upset at getting slapped in the face by said dick. I hold many other things against them instead.
You ought not to swear too many blood oaths over that, as he's got a legit 35% shot to be Cruz's vice president. He might even grow in that office under the tutelage of someone who actually knows what he's doing.
I don't find the Rubio people objectionable the way I found people who are *still* with Trump, or who backed the Bush restoration. The Rubio fans were like Carson fans: they weren't as smart as they thought they were, and they thought they had a clever idea of the way things worked, and they were wrong. The Republican Obama thing was never going to work because Republicans are not Democrats and ESPECIALLY because the big media will not carry a Republican Obama on a litter, but instead will descend on him with sticks and rocks.
Also, Ted Cruz is kind of a dick. That's why I'm voting for him. But I don't hold it too much against the GOPe for getting upset at getting slapped in the face by said dick. I hold many other things against them instead.
Posted by: Funkotron at March 25, 2016 04:45 PM (7xwUk)
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234 If we got Trump in 2016, is Ted Nugget possible in 2020?
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Nugent is better man than trump could ever hope to be
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Nugent is better man than trump could ever hope to be
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2016 04:45 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Meremortal, at March 25, 2016 04:45 PM (3myMJ)
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" What the heck is "super-religious" - is that like "ultra conservative" or "hard right-wing?" Sounds like someone's been reading the MSM style guide on how to portray someone as oooooh extreeeeeme11ty!!!!"
I'm super-religious based on what I vote on. Ted has or had appealed to me for that reason, even though the in your face evangelical style is not appealing to non-evangelicals like me. But because he's that guy, he has to play the part. A guy who is in your face religious and then has a bunch of girl friends behind his wifes back is never never going to win this election. that just the way it is
I'm super-religious based on what I vote on. Ted has or had appealed to me for that reason, even though the in your face evangelical style is not appealing to non-evangelicals like me. But because he's that guy, he has to play the part. A guy who is in your face religious and then has a bunch of girl friends behind his wifes back is never never going to win this election. that just the way it is
Posted by: Ben H at March 25, 2016 04:45 PM (gJEsZ)
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At least 2 Americans died in Belgium
Posted by: Yo! at March 25, 2016 04:45 PM (GwIKd)
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I can't believe that many of you are actually thinking this story is true.
Posted by: Seems legit at March 25, 2016 04:45 PM (U+nHb)
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It's needlessly provocative, but 'Trumplethinskin' is clever, in the stoner HS boy way we like around here.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at March 25, 2016 04:45 PM (evdj2)
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Posted by: Meremortal, at March 25, 2016 04:38 PM (3myMJ)
Oh, honey.... there are three I can think of that were worse than this, and that's just off the top of my head.
The thing is, you can't tar every supporter or candidate with the actions of every single person who supports them.
All politics is local.... and brutal.
Does anyone really think Dubya approved of the horrible smear on McCain's daughter? (That she was the product of an affair with a "Negress"?)
And don't get me started on all these idjits who don't seem to realize that a candidate doesn't have to have the slightest input to a PAC using his name, or commercials or anything else.
That's why all those damned "and I approve this message" tags got started.
Oh, honey.... there are three I can think of that were worse than this, and that's just off the top of my head.
The thing is, you can't tar every supporter or candidate with the actions of every single person who supports them.
All politics is local.... and brutal.
Does anyone really think Dubya approved of the horrible smear on McCain's daughter? (That she was the product of an affair with a "Negress"?)
And don't get me started on all these idjits who don't seem to realize that a candidate doesn't have to have the slightest input to a PAC using his name, or commercials or anything else.
That's why all those damned "and I approve this message" tags got started.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 25, 2016 04:45 PM (q1FtT)
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>>> Well. The truth will come out hopefully eventually.
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*taps foot*
*looks at watch*
Really? When?
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*taps foot*
*looks at watch*
Really? When?
Posted by: Herman Cain at March 25, 2016 04:45 PM (XItbt)
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A trollop comes up aces in Night of the Iguana. That skank ditched her old man in wonderful style
Posted by: derit at March 25, 2016 04:45 PM (OC+TJ)
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Posted by: chemjeff at March 25, 2016 04:43 PM (+Fl7e)
No jeff. "Punchable face" has been replaced by Grandpa Munster, or Southern Undertaker.
No jeff. "Punchable face" has been replaced by Grandpa Munster, or Southern Undertaker.
Posted by: kraken at March 25, 2016 04:46 PM (sdxPm)
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I heard that Trump made out with Cruz at a foam party at Marco Rubio's house, but they all didn't invite Kasich because they're mean girls.
Posted by: Harun at March 25, 2016 04:46 PM (UBBWX)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at March 25, 2016 04:46 PM (D0J8L)
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so Cruz's campaign manager buying rights to Melania's GQ photo shoot and Liz Mair somehow getting those photos for Utah/Mormon FB ad = nothing to do with Cruz.
Posted by: Dancing Queen at March 25, 2016 04:24 PM (cN1tG)
I've never seen anything definitive on that, and I believe it to be internet rumor.
so Cruz's campaign manager buying rights to Melania's GQ photo shoot and Liz Mair somehow getting those photos for Utah/Mormon FB ad = nothing to do with Cruz.
Posted by: Dancing Queen at March 25, 2016 04:24 PM (cN1tG)
I've never seen anything definitive on that, and I believe it to be internet rumor.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian at March 25, 2016 04:46 PM (QvJot)
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Will future meet ups include bar fights or will it be drunken teary hugs? Or both?
I vote for AOS Fight Clubs! LET'S DO THIS !!!!
(Runs from room Bluto style)
I vote for AOS Fight Clubs! LET'S DO THIS !!!!
(Runs from room Bluto style)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at March 25, 2016 04:46 PM (yoVkO)
Posted by: Seems legit at March 25, 2016 04:47 PM (U+nHb)
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Someone brought this up a few weeks ago and I know it's tin foil hat stuff but possibly Schumer knew what a threat Rubio was going to be, knew the Gang of 8 would bite him in the ass thus ending any chances of being the nominee. Of course, it doesn't excuse Rubio aligning himself with the likes of Schumer. I know.. like I said tin foil hat but Jesus H... all the shit happening right now? Who would have thunk it a year ago?
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 25, 2016 04:47 PM (CNHr1)
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And I'll tell you why I can't put up with you people: because you're BASTARD people! That's what you are! You're just bastard people! And I'm goin' home and I'm gonna... I'm gonna BITE MY PILLOW, is what I'm gonna do!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILPbQvh8ol4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILPbQvh8ol4
Posted by: Corky St.Clair at March 25, 2016 04:47 PM (w+mZJ)
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268 Posted by: Funkotron at March 25, 2016 04:45 PM (7xwUk)
You've got some wise thoughts there
Yes, yes You do...
You've got some wise thoughts there
Yes, yes You do...
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 04:47 PM (O2RFr)
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I thought all of the Mario Rubicon supporters self-immolated after he left the race, with the survivors hunted down and exterminated shortly thereafter.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 25, 2016 04:47 PM (4ErVI)
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Unless a Trump-bot can produce pictures of Cruz actually banging a 'trollop' other than his wife, this is an epic fail.
Posted by: Trumplethinskin at March 25, 2016 04:44 PM (VDovR)
And if it is a third party it is still Trump's fault.
Posted by: Trumplethinskin at March 25, 2016 04:44 PM (VDovR)
And if it is a third party it is still Trump's fault.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 25, 2016 04:48 PM (T78UI)
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What a refreshing change of pace to see Rubio's supporters being called as unhinged, instead of just the Trump supporters. Maybe, if we're lucky, Katshit voters will be called names too!
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 25, 2016 04:48 PM (0IhFx)
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Cruz should sue NE Posted by: @votermom at March 25, 2016 04:36 PM (nbrY/)
IIRC, you're from the Philly area and know the reputation of Philly fans. So bad they actually set up a courtroom inside the stadium on game day.
I imagine National Enquirer is not much different. Hence their use of 'weasel words' in every story. They know the line, and carefully avoid crossing it.
IIRC, you're from the Philly area and know the reputation of Philly fans. So bad they actually set up a courtroom inside the stadium on game day.
I imagine National Enquirer is not much different. Hence their use of 'weasel words' in every story. They know the line, and carefully avoid crossing it.
Posted by: mega machines at March 25, 2016 04:48 PM (fbovC)
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the shortest way to say you haven't had an affair is to say 'I haven't had an affair'
Posted by: Ben H at March 25, 2016 04:48 PM (gJEsZ)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at March 25, 2016 04:48 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 04:49 PM (O2RFr)
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Thankee. I was not a stoner in HS though (or at any other time).
Still think that Trumps internal polling going forward has him worried to be pulling this stunt. Reeks of desperation.
Thankee. I was not a stoner in HS though (or at any other time).
Still think that Trumps internal polling going forward has him worried to be pulling this stunt. Reeks of desperation.
Posted by: Trumplethinskin at March 25, 2016 04:49 PM (VDovR)
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"Cruz and a woman other than his wife coming out of the Capitol Grille restaurant and a hotel on Tuesdays and Thursdays."
That woman was Mitch McConnell in drag.
That woman was Mitch McConnell in drag.
Posted by: Harun at March 25, 2016 04:49 PM (UBBWX)
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Sounds like someone's been reading the MSM style guide on how to portray someone as oooooh extreeeeeme11ty!!!!"
Pretty much, yeah. You can be Christian but keep it to yourself, God boy! Don't even say a word about it, or you're an extremist extremity freak!!!
We've come to a point in our culture where being openly and unashamedly Christian is considered crazy and suspicious. Saying Christian things is freaky and horrifying.
Pretty much, yeah. You can be Christian but keep it to yourself, God boy! Don't even say a word about it, or you're an extremist extremity freak!!!
We've come to a point in our culture where being openly and unashamedly Christian is considered crazy and suspicious. Saying Christian things is freaky and horrifying.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:49 PM (39g3+)
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I offer my services to unite the party!
I even forgive you peasants and proles for not recognizing my perfection.
I even forgive you peasants and proles for not recognizing my perfection.
Posted by: JEB! Bush because the third time is the charm at March 25, 2016 04:49 PM (v0YLX)
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It's pretty clear from this post Ace knows there's some legs to the Cruz affair story. This is not how people respond to an ridiculous allegation.
Cruz is not going to be the nominee. Better get used the idea.
Oh, and if Rubio's people did shop this? Who cares? You don't think Cruz has people out there pushing stories about opponents?
They even doctored a video of Rubio denouncing Christianity.
I guess if Cruz did actually have multiple affairs, Rubio put a gun to his head and made them have sex.
Watching Cruz go down is intensely satisfying.
Politics ain't beanbag.
Cruz is not going to be the nominee. Better get used the idea.
Oh, and if Rubio's people did shop this? Who cares? You don't think Cruz has people out there pushing stories about opponents?
They even doctored a video of Rubio denouncing Christianity.
I guess if Cruz did actually have multiple affairs, Rubio put a gun to his head and made them have sex.
Watching Cruz go down is intensely satisfying.
Politics ain't beanbag.
Posted by: Gwen at March 25, 2016 04:49 PM (nq/J2)
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2014 Cruz was running in TX against Dewhurst who said he worked for the ChiComs
Contrary to popular belief, I don't think anyone in TX would give a shit about the behind closed doors lives of the candidates. We enjoy colorful characters down here
2014 Cruz was running in TX against Dewhurst who said he worked for the ChiComs
Contrary to popular belief, I don't think anyone in TX would give a shit about the behind closed doors lives of the candidates. We enjoy colorful characters down here
Posted by: ThunderB at March 25, 2016 04:49 PM (zOTsN)
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OK Just for grins let's reexamine that tabloid claims that Hillary Clinton has brain cancer and should be dead by now.
What if she is being kept alive by heroic measures including experimental drugs? If she stays alive until after the convention, who would take her place on the ballot if she died before the election? Remember Jean Carnahan who became Senator from Missouri after her husband died? Well how about another term in the White House for Bill Clinton?
I am just bringing this up in case you are not pissed off and depressed enough.
What if she is being kept alive by heroic measures including experimental drugs? If she stays alive until after the convention, who would take her place on the ballot if she died before the election? Remember Jean Carnahan who became Senator from Missouri after her husband died? Well how about another term in the White House for Bill Clinton?
I am just bringing this up in case you are not pissed off and depressed enough.
Posted by: obnoxious ahole at March 25, 2016 04:49 PM (MpvuV)
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Cui bono?
Rubio & Co turned over their anti-Cruz investigative files to the Enquirer weeks ago, as they did with other publishers. If you're a political insider you'd have known about "rumors swirling around Cruz." But these files are thin and wouldn't prove adultery in old school divorce court. Only the Enquirer would run with it and dressed it up with a Roger Stone quote. A quote to the effect that there are "rumors swirling around Cruz." Other than Trump knowing Stone and the Enquirer publisher, there's no proof that Trump was behind this.
Recall that the Melania snap sent to Mormons earlier this week came from an ex-Rubio staffer. Worth noting that the actual snap sent is not the one we've been seeing, but instead included black outs that it made it look like Melania was showing nipples, full tit and bush. But there's no proof that Cruz was behind this.
Rubio has been a Romney Rent Boy for several weeks now as Romney bankrolled Rubio into the Florida primary including by having PACs spend $20 million in anti-Trump ads.
Cui bono? Romney.
"Tartaglia is a pimp. It was Barzini all along."
Rubio & Co turned over their anti-Cruz investigative files to the Enquirer weeks ago, as they did with other publishers. If you're a political insider you'd have known about "rumors swirling around Cruz." But these files are thin and wouldn't prove adultery in old school divorce court. Only the Enquirer would run with it and dressed it up with a Roger Stone quote. A quote to the effect that there are "rumors swirling around Cruz." Other than Trump knowing Stone and the Enquirer publisher, there's no proof that Trump was behind this.
Recall that the Melania snap sent to Mormons earlier this week came from an ex-Rubio staffer. Worth noting that the actual snap sent is not the one we've been seeing, but instead included black outs that it made it look like Melania was showing nipples, full tit and bush. But there's no proof that Cruz was behind this.
Rubio has been a Romney Rent Boy for several weeks now as Romney bankrolled Rubio into the Florida primary including by having PACs spend $20 million in anti-Trump ads.
Cui bono? Romney.
"Tartaglia is a pimp. It was Barzini all along."
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 25, 2016 04:50 PM (bQxkN)
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And if it is a third party it is still Trump's fault.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 25, 2016 04:48 PM (T78UI)
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TDS sufferers of 2016 are like BDS(Bush Derangement Syndrome) sufferers of 2001-2008. Anything bad that happens anywhere in the world is Trump/Bush's fault.
Stubbed your toe this morning? Fucking Trump/Bush!!
Your picnic got rained out, that asshole Trump/Bush!!
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 25, 2016 04:48 PM (T78UI)
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TDS sufferers of 2016 are like BDS(Bush Derangement Syndrome) sufferers of 2001-2008. Anything bad that happens anywhere in the world is Trump/Bush's fault.
Stubbed your toe this morning? Fucking Trump/Bush!!
Your picnic got rained out, that asshole Trump/Bush!!
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 25, 2016 04:50 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Yo! at March 25, 2016 04:50 PM (GwIKd)
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It's pretty clear from this post Ace knows there's some legs to the Cruz affair story.
Because ... ?
Because ... ?
Posted by: Grump928(c) at March 25, 2016 04:50 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Seems legit at March 25, 2016 04:50 PM (U+nHb)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 25, 2016 04:50 PM (/tuJf)
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Hmmm. I smell paid troll(s).
Posted by: Emmie at March 25, 2016 04:50 PM (rRHdN)
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Christ was crucified for our sins, buried, and rose again for our justification before God. The Apostle Paul tended to emphasize the cross in his writings, but 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verses 3-4 is his condensation of the saving gospel he preached, in which both are included as the content of saving faith (that which one must know and believe to be saved). So believe that and be saved.
Further, he did say that if any believer was misled into denying the resurrection, then logically their faith is vain, meaning useless. For if Christ is not risen, all who trust in Him are yet dead in their sin and abide under the coming wrath of God.
Further, he did say that if any believer was misled into denying the resurrection, then logically their faith is vain, meaning useless. For if Christ is not risen, all who trust in Him are yet dead in their sin and abide under the coming wrath of God.
Posted by: doomed, but saved just the same at March 25, 2016 04:50 PM (bGLSw)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 25, 2016 04:50 PM (zOTsN)
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SO let's say the Rubio people pushed this and it is the "thing." Where did they get it?
There has to be an original source. It could be NE. They broke the Gary Hart, Jesse Jackson and John Edwards stories. So they do have the resources to dig this shit up.
Anonymous? Could be.
We keep getting into the Cruz-Trump food fight without considering that these kinds of stories take more than a Roger Stone conspiracy theory. These stories take actual hard work to dig up (if true).
If false? We still need to know the source.
There has to be an original source. It could be NE. They broke the Gary Hart, Jesse Jackson and John Edwards stories. So they do have the resources to dig this shit up.
Anonymous? Could be.
We keep getting into the Cruz-Trump food fight without considering that these kinds of stories take more than a Roger Stone conspiracy theory. These stories take actual hard work to dig up (if true).
If false? We still need to know the source.
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at March 25, 2016 04:50 PM (kfoLf)
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"Someone brought this up a few weeks ago and I know it's tin foil hat stuff but possibly Schumer knew what a threat Rubio was going to be, knew the Gang of 8 would bite him in the ass thus ending any chances of being the nominee."
instapundit. His proof was the photo of Rubio with Schumer in the background "twisting the knife."
I have to say, that photo has that vibe.
But Schumer looks evil in everyday life.
instapundit. His proof was the photo of Rubio with Schumer in the background "twisting the knife."
I have to say, that photo has that vibe.
But Schumer looks evil in everyday life.
Posted by: Harun at March 25, 2016 04:50 PM (UBBWX)
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Other than Trump knowing Stone and the Enquirer publisher, there's no proof that Trump was behind this.
Except Cruz said Trump was behind it....
Except Cruz said Trump was behind it....
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 04:51 PM (O2RFr)
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Hmmm. I smell paid troll(s).
I'm not sure they have to be paid. There are none so awful as the zealots who work so hard for free.
I'm not sure they have to be paid. There are none so awful as the zealots who work so hard for free.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:51 PM (39g3+)
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Check out Drudge's photo of Hills. lol
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 25, 2016 04:51 PM (iQIUe)
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IIRC, you're from the Philly area and know the reputation of Philly fans. So bad they actually set up a courtroom inside the stadium on game day.
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Oh yeah. I look forward to eating lots of popcorn when the Dem convention cones to town.
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Oh yeah. I look forward to eating lots of popcorn when the Dem convention cones to town.
Posted by: @votermom at March 25, 2016 04:51 PM (nbrY/)
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Pretty much, yeah. You can be Christian but keep it to yourself, God boy! Don't even say a word about it, or you're an extremist extremity freak!!!
We've come to a point in our culture where being openly and unashamedly Christian is considered crazy and suspicious. Saying Christian things is freaky and horrifying.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:49 PM (39g3+)
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Romney is religious, right? Yet I never heard him talk religion on the campaign trail. Compare that to Cruz who talks about Jesus and God every 10 seconds.
We've come to a point in our culture where being openly and unashamedly Christian is considered crazy and suspicious. Saying Christian things is freaky and horrifying.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:49 PM (39g3+)
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Romney is religious, right? Yet I never heard him talk religion on the campaign trail. Compare that to Cruz who talks about Jesus and God every 10 seconds.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 25, 2016 04:52 PM (0LHZx)
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Melania's photo shoots are public.
so, maybe we can stop with the outrage that a woman who nude models has photos out there of her.
Trump should have just said "Yes, my wife is hot." and been done.
so, maybe we can stop with the outrage that a woman who nude models has photos out there of her.
Trump should have just said "Yes, my wife is hot." and been done.
Posted by: Harun at March 25, 2016 04:52 PM (UBBWX)
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>>A guy who is in your face religious and then has a bunch of girl friends
behind his wifes back is never never going to win this election. that
just the way it is.
I would agree if there any truth to the story. I'm really hoping it's not true because Ted's my choice at this point (like others, I liked Walker and Perry).
I just hate the amping up of terms like "conservative" and "religious" because that's a classic Lefty/MSM ploy to make someone sound like they're on the fringe, extreme.
behind his wifes back is never never going to win this election. that
just the way it is.
I would agree if there any truth to the story. I'm really hoping it's not true because Ted's my choice at this point (like others, I liked Walker and Perry).
I just hate the amping up of terms like "conservative" and "religious" because that's a classic Lefty/MSM ploy to make someone sound like they're on the fringe, extreme.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 25, 2016 04:52 PM (NOIQH)
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Being a gun guy and all ... Kinda curious exactly HOW each candidate decided to shoot themselves in the dick.
Do you stretch it out and then shoot, being careful not to hit you hand ? Or slap the clown a bit, then aim at the head ?
The more you know ...
Do you stretch it out and then shoot, being careful not to hit you hand ? Or slap the clown a bit, then aim at the head ?
The more you know ...
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 25, 2016 04:52 PM (zfvHs)
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Trump must be secretly proud that Melania's photos are out there, right?
Trophy wives have to be seen, after all.
Trophy wives have to be seen, after all.
Posted by: Harun at March 25, 2016 04:52 PM (UBBWX)
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Cruz and a woman other than his wife coming out of the Capitol Grille restaurant and a hotel on Tuesdays and Thursdays."
That woman was Mitch McConnell in drag.
Posted by: Harun at March 25, 2016 04:49 PM (UBBWX)
Caitlyn Jenner.
That woman was Mitch McConnell in drag.
Posted by: Harun at March 25, 2016 04:49 PM (UBBWX)
Caitlyn Jenner.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 25, 2016 04:52 PM (q1FtT)
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I wouldn't have a beer with anyone who wouldn't have a beer with Ted.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at March 25, 2016 04:53 PM (evdj2)
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I guessed before that it was the GOPe + Kasich people and I was wrong.
It was the GOPe + Rubio people.
They decided to tie two cat's tails together and throw them over a clothesline.
Trump's spokeswoman was a real bint to bring this up after Donald denounced it.
But the worst players of all are the #anybodybutTrump assholes.
I don't mean Cruz supporters who see Trump as a bad candidate. I mean the Rubio supporters, the Kasich supporters and all of the other sore losers (the GOPe) who want to crap in the punch bowl because they didn't get invited to the party.
I hope this fades quickly but I'm afraid there's more garbage out there.
I guessed before that it was the GOPe + Kasich people and I was wrong.
It was the GOPe + Rubio people.
They decided to tie two cat's tails together and throw them over a clothesline.
Trump's spokeswoman was a real bint to bring this up after Donald denounced it.
But the worst players of all are the #anybodybutTrump assholes.
I don't mean Cruz supporters who see Trump as a bad candidate. I mean the Rubio supporters, the Kasich supporters and all of the other sore losers (the GOPe) who want to crap in the punch bowl because they didn't get invited to the party.
I hope this fades quickly but I'm afraid there's more garbage out there.
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 25, 2016 04:53 PM (RcpcZ)
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Drudge deserves a prize for that hillary pic and headline.
Posted by: Seems legit at March 25, 2016 04:53 PM (U+nHb)
Posted by: Harun at March 25, 2016 04:53 PM (UBBWX)
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Sock fail.
Posted by: creeper at March 25, 2016 04:53 PM (CL5j3)
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He has some?
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 04:49 PM (O2RFr)
Hehe. I mean...damnit, that kind of accurate humor is uncalled for!
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 04:49 PM (O2RFr)
Hehe. I mean...damnit, that kind of accurate humor is uncalled for!
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 25, 2016 04:53 PM (0IhFx)
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@ 283
Reverse psychology attempt, so very Sophomore year of you.
Welcome to the forum Trump-bot.
Reverse psychology attempt, so very Sophomore year of you.
Welcome to the forum Trump-bot.
Posted by: Trumplethinskin at March 25, 2016 04:53 PM (VDovR)
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I knew the c3bio people would descend on this thread.
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Posted by: doomed, but saved just the same at March 25, 2016 04:50 PM (bGLSw)
Thanks for that. You put very eloquently what I referred to earlier, re the Primacy of the Empty Tomb. In my flawed practice of Christianity, the Empty Tomb means everything. Otherwise I have no hope, and would only stake my belief in another martyr.
Posted by: doomed, but saved just the same at March 25, 2016 04:50 PM (bGLSw)
Thanks for that. You put very eloquently what I referred to earlier, re the Primacy of the Empty Tomb. In my flawed practice of Christianity, the Empty Tomb means everything. Otherwise I have no hope, and would only stake my belief in another martyr.
Posted by: kraken at March 25, 2016 04:54 PM (sdxPm)
Posted by: derit at March 25, 2016 04:54 PM (OC+TJ)
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Kimberly Guilfoyle really likes to eat.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 25, 2016 04:54 PM (/tuJf)
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Friends, remember that there is evil about, and it wants to destroy our comity. Don't let it. We have a good thing here at the HQ. Don't let the evil beast steal it.
Posted by: Emmie at March 25, 2016 04:54 PM (rRHdN)
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269 Someone brought this up a few weeks ago and I know it's tin foil hat stuff but possibly Schumer knew what a threat Rubio was going to be, knew the Gang of 8 would bite him in the ass thus ending any chances of being the nominee. Of course, it doesn't excuse Rubio aligning himself with the likes of Schumer. I know.. like I said tin foil hat but Jesus H... all the shit happening right now? Who would have thunk it a year ago?
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 25, 2016 04:47 PM (CNHr1)
HA! It was all me! Iset up yhat little upstart.
Well, me and my girlfriend Lindsey. We fucked over that little hobbit good. Screw those Whacko-Birds!
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 25, 2016 04:47 PM (CNHr1)
HA! It was all me! Iset up yhat little upstart.
Well, me and my girlfriend Lindsey. We fucked over that little hobbit good. Screw those Whacko-Birds!
Posted by: John McCain, Holier than thou Methesulah at March 25, 2016 04:54 PM (v0YLX)
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Except Cruz said Trump was behind it....
Sure, that's going to be his most reasonable response: Trump does this kind of thing and is trying to ruin me.
But there's not really any connection and if you look at it from a few steps back it looks a lot more GOPe than Trump.
Sure, that's going to be his most reasonable response: Trump does this kind of thing and is trying to ruin me.
But there's not really any connection and if you look at it from a few steps back it looks a lot more GOPe than Trump.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:54 PM (39g3+)
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Pretty much, yeah. You can be Christian but keep it to yourself, God boy! Don't even say a word about it, or you're an extremist extremity freak!!!
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I think the term you're looking for is "hide it under a bushel."
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I think the term you're looking for is "hide it under a bushel."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 25, 2016 04:55 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Meremortal, hmm at March 25, 2016 04:55 PM (3myMJ)
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Cruz's rhetoric was never "normal", he has gone over the top in the religious department.
We have never had a nominee that uses language like that.
I'm the furthest thing from anti-Christian, but Cruz makes Pat Robertson sound mainstream.
We have never had a nominee that uses language like that.
I'm the furthest thing from anti-Christian, but Cruz makes Pat Robertson sound mainstream.
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 04:55 PM (F6Ili)
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We have to think more about starting anew than recovering something that's already gone.
I think I'll start anew bottle of Scotch, thank you.
I think I'll start anew bottle of Scotch, thank you.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 25, 2016 04:55 PM (8ZskC)
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I was just musing while sort of doing my paid work that there are three groups that could be pushing a Cruz smear. Trump's campaign/supporters. Hillary who would of course love to either face Trump or face an brokered convention GOP back room deal nominee with a pissed off base. Or the GOP establishment themselves who would not want any risk of a Cruz presidency since he might shrink government and they fear that far more than Hillary in the WH or losing their majorities.
My oft repeated theory: when the GOPe are the minority party and not in the WH they have a lot of cover for joining in with growing the federal behemoth; so *I* don't believe for a second that they fear losing majority party status.
My oft repeated theory: when the GOPe are the minority party and not in the WH they have a lot of cover for joining in with growing the federal behemoth; so *I* don't believe for a second that they fear losing majority party status.
Posted by: Palerider at March 25, 2016 04:55 PM (dkExz)
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I can't believe that many of you are actually thinking this story is true.
Posted by: Seems legit at March 25, 2016 04:45 PM (U+nHb)
All snark aside, I don't know what is true and what isn't.
Here's what I am certain of (for myself, YMMV). Hillary should be in a prison cell. So should Trump. Neither of them should be within 100 miles of the Oval Office, for the ridiculously simple reason is that both have explicitly stated that they have absolutely no intention to abide by the Presidential Oath of Office. Whether you like their policies or not, absolutely none of what they propose fits within "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
So, where does that leave us? The same place it has for the past several decades- with whomever the free shit army elects. It doesn't matter who I like or who you like or who fucked who. Elections are not about faithfully fulfilling and office anymore. They are about railing up stupid, lazy, worthless pieces of shit to drag themselves off their couch and set down their mobile phone long enough to vote for someone that they know nothing about so they can Tweet about it 6 seconds later and get their virtually participation trophy from their equally idiotic friends.
Posted by: Seems legit at March 25, 2016 04:45 PM (U+nHb)
All snark aside, I don't know what is true and what isn't.
Here's what I am certain of (for myself, YMMV). Hillary should be in a prison cell. So should Trump. Neither of them should be within 100 miles of the Oval Office, for the ridiculously simple reason is that both have explicitly stated that they have absolutely no intention to abide by the Presidential Oath of Office. Whether you like their policies or not, absolutely none of what they propose fits within "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
So, where does that leave us? The same place it has for the past several decades- with whomever the free shit army elects. It doesn't matter who I like or who you like or who fucked who. Elections are not about faithfully fulfilling and office anymore. They are about railing up stupid, lazy, worthless pieces of shit to drag themselves off their couch and set down their mobile phone long enough to vote for someone that they know nothing about so they can Tweet about it 6 seconds later and get their virtually participation trophy from their equally idiotic friends.
Posted by: Damiano at March 25, 2016 04:55 PM (XItbt)
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Caitlyn Jenner.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 25, 2016 04:52 PM (q1FtT)
He has a weird asymmetrical face. Not a stroke face....but one side looks happy, the other side scowls. Creeps me the f out. Regardless of whatever gender he claims to be this week.
Caitlyn Jenner.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 25, 2016 04:52 PM (q1FtT)
He has a weird asymmetrical face. Not a stroke face....but one side looks happy, the other side scowls. Creeps me the f out. Regardless of whatever gender he claims to be this week.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 25, 2016 04:56 PM (0IhFx)
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Rubios people are the original source. They heard the rumors in DC. They took the video. They shopped the story. They tweeted about "the thing". Rick Wilson said they should have an intern "leak" it so they could "find" it.
Then the toothpaste is out of the tube after they shopped it. NE endorsed Trump. They are long term friends with Trump. Either Trump shopped it to NE or Rubios people shopped it to NE. Prolly both
Then the toothpaste is out of the tube after they shopped it. NE endorsed Trump. They are long term friends with Trump. Either Trump shopped it to NE or Rubios people shopped it to NE. Prolly both
Posted by: ThunderB at March 25, 2016 04:56 PM (zOTsN)
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But there's not really any connection and if you look at it from a few steps back it looks a lot more GOPe than Trump.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Except GOPe has lined up dutifully behind Ted Cruz
John McCain
Jeb Bush
Lyndsey Graham
etc.
But there's not really any connection and if you look at it from a few steps back it looks a lot more GOPe than Trump.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Except GOPe has lined up dutifully behind Ted Cruz
John McCain
Jeb Bush
Lyndsey Graham
etc.
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 04:56 PM (F6Ili)
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>>>
Trump's spokeswoman was a real bint to bring this up after Donald denounced it.
yeah he denounced it in a tweet in which he noted all the times the NE had been right about affairs.
my goodness.
I don't know what the fuck to make of this.
I'm not asking this rhetorically, I'm asking straight: Are you this gullible, or are you merely required to pretend to be this gullible in order to agitate for your guy who will make great deals like he made on Trump Air?
Trump's spokeswoman was a real bint to bring this up after Donald denounced it.
yeah he denounced it in a tweet in which he noted all the times the NE had been right about affairs.
my goodness.
I don't know what the fuck to make of this.
I'm not asking this rhetorically, I'm asking straight: Are you this gullible, or are you merely required to pretend to be this gullible in order to agitate for your guy who will make great deals like he made on Trump Air?
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:57 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Tilikum KAW SPI at March 25, 2016 04:57 PM (+aCe4)
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Then the toothpaste is out of the tube after they shopped it. NE endorsed Trump. They are long term friends with Trump. Either Trump shopped it to NE or Rubios people shopped it to NE. Prolly both
I don't know..... Rubio has said some nice things about Cruz.......
I don't know..... Rubio has said some nice things about Cruz.......
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 04:57 PM (O2RFr)
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Being a gun guy and all ... Kinda curious exactly HOW each candidate decided to shoot themselves in the dick.
Do you stretch it out and then shoot, being careful not to hit you hand ? Or slap the clown a bit, then aim at the head ?
The more you know ...
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 25, 2016 04:52 PM (zfvHs)
I find stepping on it, then shooting it through your foot is very efficient and effective!
Do you stretch it out and then shoot, being careful not to hit you hand ? Or slap the clown a bit, then aim at the head ?
The more you know ...
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 25, 2016 04:52 PM (zfvHs)
I find stepping on it, then shooting it through your foot is very efficient and effective!
Posted by: Rick "Coyote Killer" Perry at March 25, 2016 04:57 PM (JO9+V)
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Blush came off the rose, vis a vis Mario.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at March 25, 2016 04:57 PM (rJOC2)
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And for those of you who are saying this is another sign the Republic is over....take a breath. Google 1800 election. It makes 2016 look like a slight misunderstanding between friends.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 25, 2016 04:57 PM (0LHZx)
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27 For the record, this supports the conspiracy theory I floated in the other thread that GOP was behind this... a two-bird-one-stone hit on both Trump and Cruz. It benefits Kasich.... which is what they really want, open convention.
Posted by: Not Buyin It at March 25, 2016 04:05 PM (HeK4a)
Yep, the timing is very suspicious, Nat'l E leaks story on the very evening of the wife strife Cruz-Trump Twitter twatting BS.
Posted by: Not Buyin It at March 25, 2016 04:05 PM (HeK4a)
Yep, the timing is very suspicious, Nat'l E leaks story on the very evening of the wife strife Cruz-Trump Twitter twatting BS.
Posted by: Bebe Dahl at March 25, 2016 04:58 PM (yNyJy)
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So the Teddy hookers thing aside. What made Teddy go back on his insider shtick and just stay in an election thathe cant win?
He is Kasich with a few more votes qnd just playing the game for the establishment now.
He is Kasich with a few more votes qnd just playing the game for the establishment now.
Posted by: Drider at March 25, 2016 04:58 PM (6Xbsz)
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I still remember when we had nice things (and nice people) on this smart military blog. I usually only lurk, but will occasionally chime in on items related to technology. Lately, though, there seems to be quite a bit of nastiness. I REALLY hope this is a passing fad that will go away soon.
Posted by: MallardDuckLintBrush at March 25, 2016 04:58 PM (U1mv7)
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Except GOPe has lined up dutifully behind Ted Cruz
John McCain
Jeb Bush
Lyndsey Graham
etc.
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 04:56 PM (F6Ili)
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Uh yeah sure. They've lined up behind Cruz so he can win a couple of primaries to keep Donald from hitting the magic number. In a few months they'll be back to calling him wacko bird.
It amazes me how gullible some people are.
John McCain
Jeb Bush
Lyndsey Graham
etc.
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 04:56 PM (F6Ili)
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Uh yeah sure. They've lined up behind Cruz so he can win a couple of primaries to keep Donald from hitting the magic number. In a few months they'll be back to calling him wacko bird.
It amazes me how gullible some people are.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 25, 2016 04:59 PM (0LHZx)
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Possibly lost in the Trump wars is this basic bit of information:
Ted Cruz has almost no GOP allies. Many more enemies than friends. That's not an accident. That's essentially his brand. Insofar as his relationship with the party, he wanted it that way. It's in keeping with the laws of human and political nature for the knives to come out for him at the point when it would inflict the most damage - which is Now, when he needs to close on Trump as fast as possible.
There's a lot of noise about who pushed this and who didn't, but a parallel point is that there are a lot of people, none of them Team Blue, who aren't unhappy that this is out there. Are they all sociopaths? (Yes, cue the Hillary conspiracies, ok.) Cruz had plenty of chances to make more friends and allies along the way.
Trump is is own dumpster fire, a total sicko, and I've made my feelings clear on that. If he pushed this, would anyone be surprised? I feel the country would be better off with Cruz as the GOP nominee, rather than Trump. There, I said it.
But, you know, Cruz has been kind of a dick for a while now. He's cheap-shotted more than his share. That's not new news. And he's a pol. A smart one. Dog bites man.
No one "deserves" Trump's disgusting behavior. And maybe it was Rubio's people. Who knows? I'm just saying, is anyone really shocked that *somebody* took a really rough shot at Cruz, knowing who he is and how he got here, before he becomes The Only Guy Other Than Trump Who Can Be Nominated?
Ted Cruz has almost no GOP allies. Many more enemies than friends. That's not an accident. That's essentially his brand. Insofar as his relationship with the party, he wanted it that way. It's in keeping with the laws of human and political nature for the knives to come out for him at the point when it would inflict the most damage - which is Now, when he needs to close on Trump as fast as possible.
There's a lot of noise about who pushed this and who didn't, but a parallel point is that there are a lot of people, none of them Team Blue, who aren't unhappy that this is out there. Are they all sociopaths? (Yes, cue the Hillary conspiracies, ok.) Cruz had plenty of chances to make more friends and allies along the way.
Trump is is own dumpster fire, a total sicko, and I've made my feelings clear on that. If he pushed this, would anyone be surprised? I feel the country would be better off with Cruz as the GOP nominee, rather than Trump. There, I said it.
But, you know, Cruz has been kind of a dick for a while now. He's cheap-shotted more than his share. That's not new news. And he's a pol. A smart one. Dog bites man.
No one "deserves" Trump's disgusting behavior. And maybe it was Rubio's people. Who knows? I'm just saying, is anyone really shocked that *somebody* took a really rough shot at Cruz, knowing who he is and how he got here, before he becomes The Only Guy Other Than Trump Who Can Be Nominated?
Posted by: A Liberal AoS Reader, Really! at March 25, 2016 04:59 PM (Sqfy2)
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Thanks for that. You put very eloquently what I referred to earlier, re the Primacy of the Empty Tomb.
The ascension is just as important for the same reasons. Its a package deal, but the cross is the most symbolic of salvation and hope for Christians. The empty Cross, because he's not there any longer.
The ascension is just as important for the same reasons. Its a package deal, but the cross is the most symbolic of salvation and hope for Christians. The empty Cross, because he's not there any longer.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:59 PM (39g3+)
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Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 25, 2016 04:57 PM (0LHZx)
Good point. We are far more civil in a lot of ways than that time period.
Good point. We are far more civil in a lot of ways than that time period.
Posted by: kraken at March 25, 2016 04:59 PM (sdxPm)
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My oft repeated theory: when the GOPe are the minority party and not in the WH they have a lot of cover for joining in with growing the federal behemoth; so *I* don't believe for a second that they fear losing majority party status.
Posted by: Palerider at March 25, 2016 04:55 PM (dkExz)
Then why are they so anti-Trump, the guy who will, with 100% certainty, lose to Hillary?
My oft repeated theory: when the GOPe are the minority party and not in the WH they have a lot of cover for joining in with growing the federal behemoth; so *I* don't believe for a second that they fear losing majority party status.
Posted by: Palerider at March 25, 2016 04:55 PM (dkExz)
Then why are they so anti-Trump, the guy who will, with 100% certainty, lose to Hillary?
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 25, 2016 04:59 PM (RcpcZ)
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It wouldn't surprise me to see Jeb involved in this......He really hates Cruz and Trump....
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 04:59 PM (O2RFr)
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"Are you this gullible"
They are not. Not really. But the GOP has finally created a group that just don't care no more.
That's all it is.
They are not. Not really. But the GOP has finally created a group that just don't care no more.
That's all it is.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 25, 2016 05:00 PM (zfvHs)
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@ 338
Guess you weren't around here in 2008 when we were smothered in trolls.
Guess you weren't around here in 2008 when we were smothered in trolls.
Posted by: Trumplethinskin at March 25, 2016 05:00 PM (VDovR)
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>>>I can't believe that many of you are actually thinking this story is true.
Posted by: Seems legit at March 25, 2016 04:45 PM (U+nHb)
All snark aside, I don't know what is true and what isn't.
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i can totally believe it, which is not the same to say it's true.
poltiical people are by nature sort of narcissistic right?
The act of getting laid has a lot of narcissism in it. I mean, I don't want to knock getting laid. But there is the physical pleasure, which is great, and then there is the high of validation, which is, let's be honest, also great, and maybe even better than the first one.
a friend of mine almost cheated one time, but held back, and kind of knocked himself. He said he knew he could have done something, but he didn't, and didn't that make him sort of a "Good boy" and a pussy?
I told him, honestly, no, it was the right thing to do, and if he knew he COULD HAVE gotten laid, isn't that really 60% of thrill of geting laid anyway?
anyway, point is, a lot of these guys have this need for validation of all types, and frequently find themselves on the verge of getting tail they usually wouldn't. I'm never shocked if it's true.
Posted by: Seems legit at March 25, 2016 04:45 PM (U+nHb)
All snark aside, I don't know what is true and what isn't.
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i can totally believe it, which is not the same to say it's true.
poltiical people are by nature sort of narcissistic right?
The act of getting laid has a lot of narcissism in it. I mean, I don't want to knock getting laid. But there is the physical pleasure, which is great, and then there is the high of validation, which is, let's be honest, also great, and maybe even better than the first one.
a friend of mine almost cheated one time, but held back, and kind of knocked himself. He said he knew he could have done something, but he didn't, and didn't that make him sort of a "Good boy" and a pussy?
I told him, honestly, no, it was the right thing to do, and if he knew he COULD HAVE gotten laid, isn't that really 60% of thrill of geting laid anyway?
anyway, point is, a lot of these guys have this need for validation of all types, and frequently find themselves on the verge of getting tail they usually wouldn't. I'm never shocked if it's true.
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 05:00 PM (dciA+)
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Watching Cruz go down is intensely satisfying.
That's what she said!
That's what she said!
Posted by: michael scott at March 25, 2016 05:00 PM (ioqGj)
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1828 campaign was fun as well. Andrew Jackson accused John Q. Adams of being the Russian Czar's pimp.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 25, 2016 05:00 PM (0LHZx)
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/smiles at the circular firing squad as pundits call those they will need support from in the election stupid and evil...
Posted by: Precedent Hillary Clinton at March 25, 2016 05:00 PM (qf6WZ)
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Except GOPe has lined up dutifully behind Ted Cruz
John McCain
Jeb Bush
Lyndsey Graham
etc.---------Swingline
Their defense grid was smashed!
John McCain
Jeb Bush
Lyndsey Graham
etc.---------Swingline
Their defense grid was smashed!
Posted by: Tilikum KAW SPI at March 25, 2016 05:01 PM (u0kqM)
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This is the dirtiest political race I have ever witnessed. And the sad thing is, the opposition party, as filthy a bunch as ever assembled, comes out looking morally superior.
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That is because the American electorate has been reduced to personality cultists. The steady march by the Left through our institutions has been successful.
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That is because the American electorate has been reduced to personality cultists. The steady march by the Left through our institutions has been successful.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2016 05:01 PM (9mTYi)
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Uh yeah sure. They've lined up behind Cruz so he can win a couple of primaries to keep Donald from hitting the magic number. In a few months they'll be back to calling him wacko bird.
It amazes me how gullible some people are.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
I think they genuinely want Cruz over Trump.
Why is that so hard to believe?
Now if they get a jump ball later, they will leave him, but right now he's their boy.
It amazes me how gullible some people are.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
I think they genuinely want Cruz over Trump.
Why is that so hard to believe?
Now if they get a jump ball later, they will leave him, but right now he's their boy.
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 05:01 PM (F6Ili)
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Except GOPe has lined up dutifully behind Ted Cruz
John McCain
Jeb Bush
Lyndsey Graham
etc.
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True, but not because they support Cruz and want him nominated. They are #nevertrump.
Except GOPe has lined up dutifully behind Ted Cruz
John McCain
Jeb Bush
Lyndsey Graham
etc.
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True, but not because they support Cruz and want him nominated. They are #nevertrump.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 25, 2016 05:01 PM (kTF2Z)
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I know someone is keeping a list of people who are supporting Trump in order to hold it against them later. Well I hope there is a list of the people behind the Rubio smear merchants as well
This has been a character revealing primary. I will never look at some people the same way again
This has been a character revealing primary. I will never look at some people the same way again
Posted by: ThunderB at March 25, 2016 05:01 PM (zOTsN)
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Constitutional conservatives are attacked by the GOPe, the left, the terrorist savages, and the media all at once. Is there any realistic (non-violent) way these evil bastages can be defeated? I think we are running out of time here and desperate measures may be called for.
Posted by: Eromero at March 25, 2016 05:01 PM (zLDYs)
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Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 04:59 PM (39g3+)
Hope I don't come across as argumentative about this. Don't mean to be. More of my own personal response to faith, and how I respond to the Atonement.
Hope I don't come across as argumentative about this. Don't mean to be. More of my own personal response to faith, and how I respond to the Atonement.
Posted by: kraken at March 25, 2016 05:02 PM (sdxPm)
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But, you know, Cruz has been kind of a dick for a while now.
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Don't agree with this premise. If he's "a dick" because his party was prison loving the base, HARD and he refused to go along, if that's a dick, then I like dick (much like Lindsey Graham).
But, you know, Cruz has been kind of a dick for a while now.
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Don't agree with this premise. If he's "a dick" because his party was prison loving the base, HARD and he refused to go along, if that's a dick, then I like dick (much like Lindsey Graham).
Posted by: Seems legit at March 25, 2016 05:02 PM (U+nHb)
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I thought Donald loved making deals. Why wouldn't he make a deal with his buddy at National Enquirer to run this hit piece just as Donald takes a powder from the campaign? Donald gets his week off at pedo-island, or wherever, and all the media will be talking about is the NE story. Win-win.
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 25, 2016 05:02 PM (2cS/G)
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They don't want Trump. They don't want Cruz. They want a brokered convention
Posted by: ThunderB at March 25, 2016 05:02 PM (zOTsN)
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Honestly Ace, this Rubio obsession is a little bit, well... sociopathic.
Do you really believe what you are writing?? It doesn't make a bit of sense to me.
I've always thought Rubio a good candidate, a good conservative, would have made a fine President. I liked his optimistic, positive, hopeful view of America. I supported him in my primary. But now he is gone and you know what? I'm not really very down at all. Why? Because there is another really good conservative, who I am more than happy (much more than happy) to support in the election, if he can get past Trump.
This is the conservative cause Ace. It is not about Rubio, or Cruz, or any individual. I thought Rubio had a good chance of advancing that cause, but he didn't have what it takes, so fine, let's move on and get the best person who can help advance it. From what I read, Cruz is a bit of a pain to work with. Who cares? I don't, as I don't have to work with him. I just need him to get elected and then advance the cause.
Likewise with Trump. I don't like him, but not because he is a lying, weak, feeble minded, narcissistic ass (although he is), but because he *won't advance the cause*. Again, it is not about the person. If, by some miracle, Trump is elected President and, by an even larger miracle, he works in a Constitutional manner with a conservative Congress to advance entitlement reform, and replace ObamaCare, and strengthen the US military, and reduce the scope of eminent domain, and enforce US immigration laws, and so on, then I'll happily vote for his reelection.
You really seem to have lost sight of this with the Rubio mania. You quote some thinly sourced story from a Trump-affiliated outlet that an unnamed "Rubio" person was the source of the story, and then disparage all people who supported Rubio and take joy in our supposed misery. Is this really supposed to help? Help anything at all? We are supposed to be on the same side.
Not to mention the rumor doesn't even make sense. From everything I have read about Cruz, he is incredibly disciplined, and extremely ambitious. He has been planning this run for President for years. And we are supposed to believe a video exists of him walking openly into a Washington hotel with his mistress for some nookie? Really??? Cruz is too smart not to understand the chances of keeping that secret in a Presidential run would be zero. This story doesn't vaguely pass the sniff test.
And if I'm wrong, well, I guess it's just going to have to be a write in for Rick Perry. Because again, it is not about the person, it is about the cause.
Get a grip.
Do you really believe what you are writing?? It doesn't make a bit of sense to me.
I've always thought Rubio a good candidate, a good conservative, would have made a fine President. I liked his optimistic, positive, hopeful view of America. I supported him in my primary. But now he is gone and you know what? I'm not really very down at all. Why? Because there is another really good conservative, who I am more than happy (much more than happy) to support in the election, if he can get past Trump.
This is the conservative cause Ace. It is not about Rubio, or Cruz, or any individual. I thought Rubio had a good chance of advancing that cause, but he didn't have what it takes, so fine, let's move on and get the best person who can help advance it. From what I read, Cruz is a bit of a pain to work with. Who cares? I don't, as I don't have to work with him. I just need him to get elected and then advance the cause.
Likewise with Trump. I don't like him, but not because he is a lying, weak, feeble minded, narcissistic ass (although he is), but because he *won't advance the cause*. Again, it is not about the person. If, by some miracle, Trump is elected President and, by an even larger miracle, he works in a Constitutional manner with a conservative Congress to advance entitlement reform, and replace ObamaCare, and strengthen the US military, and reduce the scope of eminent domain, and enforce US immigration laws, and so on, then I'll happily vote for his reelection.
You really seem to have lost sight of this with the Rubio mania. You quote some thinly sourced story from a Trump-affiliated outlet that an unnamed "Rubio" person was the source of the story, and then disparage all people who supported Rubio and take joy in our supposed misery. Is this really supposed to help? Help anything at all? We are supposed to be on the same side.
Not to mention the rumor doesn't even make sense. From everything I have read about Cruz, he is incredibly disciplined, and extremely ambitious. He has been planning this run for President for years. And we are supposed to believe a video exists of him walking openly into a Washington hotel with his mistress for some nookie? Really??? Cruz is too smart not to understand the chances of keeping that secret in a Presidential run would be zero. This story doesn't vaguely pass the sniff test.
And if I'm wrong, well, I guess it's just going to have to be a write in for Rick Perry. Because again, it is not about the person, it is about the cause.
Get a grip.
Posted by: Brian at March 25, 2016 05:02 PM (dpcS3)
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@346 - LOL, nope. I must have been late to that party. Good to know that this isn't the worst...
Posted by: MallardDuckLintBrush at March 25, 2016 05:02 PM (U1mv7)
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I think they genuinely want Cruz over Trump.
Why is that so hard to believe?
Now if they get a jump ball later, they will leave him, but right now he's their boy.
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 05:01 PM (F6Ili)
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No they don't. They want him to be a barrier to Trump winning 1237 (or whatever the number is) so they can give us Jeb or Katshit or Romney at the convention.
Why is that so hard to believe?
Now if they get a jump ball later, they will leave him, but right now he's their boy.
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 05:01 PM (F6Ili)
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No they don't. They want him to be a barrier to Trump winning 1237 (or whatever the number is) so they can give us Jeb or Katshit or Romney at the convention.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 25, 2016 05:03 PM (0LHZx)
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Trump Derangement Syndrome is a sad, sad disease.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 25, 2016 04:42 PM (0LHZx)
Yeah. Except for Trump's known "ratf*cker" being the only quoted source in the NE story, and his idiot spokesperson deliberately bringing it up in a completely unrelated segment on CNN and flogging it frantically, even to the point of accusing her fellow interviewee of being one of Cruz's mistresses, plus the aggressive Trumpbot astroturfing operation going on right here at the HQ on this very subject, there's absolutely nothing to connect this story with tRump. So clearly anyone saying different is suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. Good point.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 25, 2016 04:42 PM (0LHZx)
Yeah. Except for Trump's known "ratf*cker" being the only quoted source in the NE story, and his idiot spokesperson deliberately bringing it up in a completely unrelated segment on CNN and flogging it frantically, even to the point of accusing her fellow interviewee of being one of Cruz's mistresses, plus the aggressive Trumpbot astroturfing operation going on right here at the HQ on this very subject, there's absolutely nothing to connect this story with tRump. So clearly anyone saying different is suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. Good point.
Posted by: HTL at March 25, 2016 05:03 PM (MMjUj)
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anyway, point is, a lot of these guys have this need for validation of all types, and frequently find themselves on the verge of getting tail they usually wouldn't. I'm never shocked if it's true.
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 05:00 PM (dciA+)
It would not surprise me in regular life...
In the Washington DC area... I'd almost expect it.
The times I've been to DC its been like a Free Fire Zone for bad behavior... power is an aphrodisiac they say....
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 05:00 PM (dciA+)
It would not surprise me in regular life...
In the Washington DC area... I'd almost expect it.
The times I've been to DC its been like a Free Fire Zone for bad behavior... power is an aphrodisiac they say....
Posted by: Don Quixote at March 25, 2016 05:03 PM (qf6WZ)
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317 Kimberly Guilfoyle really likes to eat.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 25, 2016 04:54 PM
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She likes her waffles. I laughed when she said it was International Waffle Day, not to be confused with National Waffle Day in August. Which she will be celebrating as well.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 25, 2016 04:54 PM
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She likes her waffles. I laughed when she said it was International Waffle Day, not to be confused with National Waffle Day in August. Which she will be celebrating as well.
Posted by: olddog in mo at March 25, 2016 05:03 PM (Dhht7)
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Liberal AoS reader, long time, no see!
A long time ago I asked you to recommend a website that does a good job of making the case for other viewpoints, and you did, but I forgot the site.
Is there any site you recommend now? Feel free to catch me later since this discussion may not be appropriate while people are keyed up right now.
A long time ago I asked you to recommend a website that does a good job of making the case for other viewpoints, and you did, but I forgot the site.
Is there any site you recommend now? Feel free to catch me later since this discussion may not be appropriate while people are keyed up right now.
Posted by: Emmie at March 25, 2016 05:04 PM (rRHdN)
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They don't want Cruz. They want to deprive Trump of 1237
Posted by: ThunderB at March 25, 2016 05:04 PM (zOTsN)
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Also, the whole heidi Cruz thing where she was found wandering down an expressway by a police officer?
That's not typical post partum stuff, that sounds to me like something was revealed to her.
That's not typical post partum stuff, that sounds to me like something was revealed to her.
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 05:04 PM (F6Ili)
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355 I know someone is keeping a list of people who are supporting Trump in order to hold it against them later. Well I hope there is a list of the people behind the Rubio smear merchants as well
This has been a character revealing primary. I will never look at some people the same way again
Posted by: ThunderB at March 25, 2016 05:01 PM (zOTsN)
These same people probably routinely lose their grocery lists, so there's that;-)
This has been a character revealing primary. I will never look at some people the same way again
Posted by: ThunderB at March 25, 2016 05:01 PM (zOTsN)
These same people probably routinely lose their grocery lists, so there's that;-)
Posted by: Bebe Dahl at March 25, 2016 05:04 PM (yNyJy)
Posted by: kraken at March 25, 2016 05:04 PM (sdxPm)
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Michael Savage, of all people, actually made sense about this whole mess. It's all garbage and a lie. And he said if Trump doesn't disavow the story he'll pull his support/endorsement.
Of course Trump's tweeting the story all over the place. Can't help himself. As I said, this all is going to backfire on Trump.
http://tinyurl.com/hg8xqes
Of course Trump's tweeting the story all over the place. Can't help himself. As I said, this all is going to backfire on Trump.
http://tinyurl.com/hg8xqes
Posted by: Joanne at March 25, 2016 05:05 PM (hgBpU)
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Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:24 PM (dciA+)
Yeah it was our fault for being betrayed by the establishment, and saying so.
1) "The establishment" has become defined as anything distasteful to anyone at any given moment. It's become a bogeyman, a scapegoat for not getting your own way.
2) rather than letting the country burn your obligation as a patriot is to save it, by any means necessary. I have seen the left run circles around a disorganized and lazy right, they don't need scapegoats, they eat our lunch because they get involved. We whine on the web and rationalize doing nothing with cheap, stupid slogans like "let it burn".
"If only we had kept our mouths shut and not spoken up about the obvious!"
If only you had pushed something constructive rather than sitting back with a smirk as we circled the drain.
""Maybe we should all just lie all fucking day for political purposes, huh? ""
Maybe you should remember the price paid for what was given to you as you cheer on it's demise.
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:24 PM (dciA+)
Yeah it was our fault for being betrayed by the establishment, and saying so.
1) "The establishment" has become defined as anything distasteful to anyone at any given moment. It's become a bogeyman, a scapegoat for not getting your own way.
2) rather than letting the country burn your obligation as a patriot is to save it, by any means necessary. I have seen the left run circles around a disorganized and lazy right, they don't need scapegoats, they eat our lunch because they get involved. We whine on the web and rationalize doing nothing with cheap, stupid slogans like "let it burn".
"If only we had kept our mouths shut and not spoken up about the obvious!"
If only you had pushed something constructive rather than sitting back with a smirk as we circled the drain.
""Maybe we should all just lie all fucking day for political purposes, huh? ""
Maybe you should remember the price paid for what was given to you as you cheer on it's demise.
Posted by: Yo, Ace at March 25, 2016 05:05 PM (ywZNz)
Posted by: Flt93_Militia at March 25, 2016 05:05 PM (tF6cZ)
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347 ... and THAT is the most spot-on thing you've written this week.
Take the rest of the weekend off.
Take the rest of the weekend off.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 25, 2016 05:05 PM (zfvHs)
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I was just musing while sort of doing my paid work that there are three
groups that could be pushing a Cruz smear. Trump's
campaign/supporters. Hillary who would of course love to either face
Trump or face an brokered convention GOP back room deal nominee with a
pissed off base. Or the GOP establishment themselves who would not
want any risk of a Cruz presidency since he might shrink government and
they fear that far more than Hillary in the WH or losing their
majorities.
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Posted by: Palerider at March 25, 2016 04:55 PM (dkExz)
How about a national news rag with a verifiable history of sinking president wanna-be's by exposing their infidelity?
Is that too tin-foil hat?
I was just musing while sort of doing my paid work that there are three
groups that could be pushing a Cruz smear. Trump's
campaign/supporters. Hillary who would of course love to either face
Trump or face an brokered convention GOP back room deal nominee with a
pissed off base. Or the GOP establishment themselves who would not
want any risk of a Cruz presidency since he might shrink government and
they fear that far more than Hillary in the WH or losing their
majorities.
...
Posted by: Palerider at March 25, 2016 04:55 PM (dkExz)
How about a national news rag with a verifiable history of sinking president wanna-be's by exposing their infidelity?
Is that too tin-foil hat?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 25, 2016 05:05 PM (T78UI)
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@358 NEW KEYBOARD NEEDED
Posted by: A Liberal AoS Reader, Really! at March 25, 2016 05:06 PM (Sqfy2)
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I would gladly make Kinberly Guillefoyle as many waffles as she would like.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 25, 2016 05:06 PM (kTF2Z)
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No they don't. They want him to be a barrier to Trump winning 1237 (or whatever the number is) so they can give us Jeb or Katshit or Romney at the convention.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
Cruz is far more Establishment friendly than he lets on.
A simple "talking to" by another Senator and he changes his vote for federal crop insurance to help himself in iowa.
Trump is much further off the reservation.
Cruz is not their ideal but they would back him over Trump without question.
You're delusional if you think otherwise.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
Cruz is far more Establishment friendly than he lets on.
A simple "talking to" by another Senator and he changes his vote for federal crop insurance to help himself in iowa.
Trump is much further off the reservation.
Cruz is not their ideal but they would back him over Trump without question.
You're delusional if you think otherwise.
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 05:06 PM (F6Ili)
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Being that both Cruz and Kasich cannot win and are obviously playing spoilers for the establishment.
I think itwould be wise that if they succeed in doing the establishments bidding then
Paul Ryan would be the superior choice.
I think itwould be wise that if they succeed in doing the establishments bidding then
Paul Ryan would be the superior choice.
Posted by: Drider at March 25, 2016 05:06 PM (6Xbsz)
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Brian
You know a man by his deeds right? These ratfuckers are Rubios people. This is their handiwork. And they are still doing it
They are disgusting
Brian
You know a man by his deeds right? These ratfuckers are Rubios people. This is their handiwork. And they are still doing it
They are disgusting
Posted by: ThunderB at March 25, 2016 05:06 PM (zOTsN)
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Damn. How did it come to this? A year ago it all looked so promising ... Now.. I don't know...
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 05:06 PM (O2RFr)
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@ 362
Oh yeah, it was ridiculous back then. 'Hope & Change'... 'Hope & Change'
Where are all those people now? I still think any R politician in 2016 that is serious about winning (I know, I know) should mouth the words Hope and Change as much as possible as a reminder.
Oh yeah, it was ridiculous back then. 'Hope & Change'... 'Hope & Change'
Where are all those people now? I still think any R politician in 2016 that is serious about winning (I know, I know) should mouth the words Hope and Change as much as possible as a reminder.
Posted by: Trumplethinskin at March 25, 2016 05:07 PM (VDovR)
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Pretty much, yeah. You can be Christian but keep it to yourself, God boy! Don't even say a word about it, or you're an extremist extremity freak!!!
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I think the term you're looking for is "hide it under a bushel."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 25, 2016 04:55 PM (Nwg0u)
Welcome to the new millennium!
If you're religious: Go pray in your closest! How dare you congregate in a private structure with like minded people once a week and exercise your rights under the First Amendment without impeding on anyone else going about their day! You should be ashamed! Unless you're Muslim.
If you're gay: Come out of the closet! Go dress up in glitter and rainbows and shout up and down the street that you are going to suck that dick in public and people are going to accept it or you will put them in jail! Have a parade! Make sure it's loud and obnoxious and prevents everyone else from going about their normal business because you're special! Rant about what heterosexual people do in the privacy of their bedrooms and don't generally talk about in public as being disgusting while you shake your naked, chap wearing ass up and down mainstreet carrying a dildo!
Before anyone says it- I've got nothing against gay people. I could care less what goes on in your bedroom and if you love someone, that's your business. You want to spend the rest of your lives together and call it marriage, go right ahead.
I respect people who are worthy of respect, earn respect and don't make an ass of themselves while demanding respect and shaking their finger at people who keep to their own beliefs in private.
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I think the term you're looking for is "hide it under a bushel."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 25, 2016 04:55 PM (Nwg0u)
Welcome to the new millennium!
If you're religious: Go pray in your closest! How dare you congregate in a private structure with like minded people once a week and exercise your rights under the First Amendment without impeding on anyone else going about their day! You should be ashamed! Unless you're Muslim.
If you're gay: Come out of the closet! Go dress up in glitter and rainbows and shout up and down the street that you are going to suck that dick in public and people are going to accept it or you will put them in jail! Have a parade! Make sure it's loud and obnoxious and prevents everyone else from going about their normal business because you're special! Rant about what heterosexual people do in the privacy of their bedrooms and don't generally talk about in public as being disgusting while you shake your naked, chap wearing ass up and down mainstreet carrying a dildo!
Before anyone says it- I've got nothing against gay people. I could care less what goes on in your bedroom and if you love someone, that's your business. You want to spend the rest of your lives together and call it marriage, go right ahead.
I respect people who are worthy of respect, earn respect and don't make an ass of themselves while demanding respect and shaking their finger at people who keep to their own beliefs in private.
Posted by: Damiano at March 25, 2016 05:07 PM (XItbt)
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>>> For Those Who.. are either this dumb or like pretending to be really dumb
...live in Rio Linda
...live in Rio Linda
Posted by: fluffy at March 25, 2016 05:07 PM (2hcmo)
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I am far more concerned that Ashcroft stated today that supposedly the number two ISIS leader was taken out, less than a week after Brussels. Hmmm, that's convenient.
Posted by: Bebe Dahl at March 25, 2016 05:08 PM (yNyJy)
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Is this my cue?
Posted by: Flaming Clown Boners at March 25, 2016 05:08 PM (JO9+V)
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If this story turns out to be true I am going to sue to get my money back from that opposition research company.
Posted by: David Dewhurst at March 25, 2016 05:08 PM (MpvuV)
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@367 Posted by: Emmie at March 25, 2016 05:04 PM (rRHdN)
Good to see you too. And yes, now's not the time! Don't want to abuse the privilege.
Good to see you too. And yes, now's not the time! Don't want to abuse the privilege.
Posted by: A Liberal AoS Reader, Really! at March 25, 2016 05:08 PM (Sqfy2)
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Legal Insurrection has tweets from Ted denying this, Trump whose not sure if it's true or not, Katerina Pierson saying it's 100% false having to do with her at least, and more.
Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2016 05:08 PM (fizMZ)
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>>I told him, honestly, no, it was the right thing to do, and if he knew he COULD HAVE gotten laid, isn't that really 60% of thrill of geting laid anyway?
It's this kind of thinking that drives one to Kaboom!
It's this kind of thinking that drives one to Kaboom!
Posted by: JackStraw at March 25, 2016 05:09 PM (/tuJf)
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386 I am far more concerned that Ashcroft stated today that supposedly the number two ISIS leader was taken out, less than a week after Brussels. Hmmm, that's convenient.
Posted by: Bebe Dahl at March 25, 2016 05:08 PM (yNyJy)
that would be the ISIS leader we had in Custody, in Iraq, and let go in 2012....
/facepalm
Posted by: Bebe Dahl at March 25, 2016 05:08 PM (yNyJy)
that would be the ISIS leader we had in Custody, in Iraq, and let go in 2012....
/facepalm
Posted by: Don Quixote at March 25, 2016 05:09 PM (qf6WZ)
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Cruz is not their ideal but they would back him over Trump without question.
You're delusional if you think otherwise.
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 05:06 PM (F6Ili)
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I'm saying they don't want either. Cruz's value to them is stopping Trump. They will not allow him to be the nominee. The fact Cruz doesn't understand this, makes me wonder about his supposed genius intellect.
You're delusional if you think otherwise.
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 05:06 PM (F6Ili)
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I'm saying they don't want either. Cruz's value to them is stopping Trump. They will not allow him to be the nominee. The fact Cruz doesn't understand this, makes me wonder about his supposed genius intellect.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 25, 2016 05:10 PM (0LHZx)
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Oooh, this one is long, and looks like a good topic, gonna save reading it until after I do some post-work chores....
Posted by: Dirty Randy at March 25, 2016 05:10 PM (nhHPu)
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But I see now that these very low, very base traits are well-represented among Marco Rubio's cultists.
How about amongst Cruz cultists?
Certainly this isn't down the line true, but generally speaking the hard core Rubio fans were backing Rubio, the man. Young! Handsome! Charismatic! Heeeere's Marco!
More Cruz supporters seem to be attracted to Ted's policies. I could care less about Ted Cruz, but I like very much what Ted Cruz says he wants to do and his record of having done it before.
So it's a case of "My guy" vs "My beliefs". If Ted Cruz goes down in flames, the principles of conservatism will still be as true and timeless as ever. When Marco went down, what was left? The "one guy who could win" was gone, and if you've tied everything up in that one guy there's nothing left but bitterness.
How about amongst Cruz cultists?
Certainly this isn't down the line true, but generally speaking the hard core Rubio fans were backing Rubio, the man. Young! Handsome! Charismatic! Heeeere's Marco!
More Cruz supporters seem to be attracted to Ted's policies. I could care less about Ted Cruz, but I like very much what Ted Cruz says he wants to do and his record of having done it before.
So it's a case of "My guy" vs "My beliefs". If Ted Cruz goes down in flames, the principles of conservatism will still be as true and timeless as ever. When Marco went down, what was left? The "one guy who could win" was gone, and if you've tied everything up in that one guy there's nothing left but bitterness.
Posted by: Weirddave at March 25, 2016 05:10 PM (N8hFs)
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Also, the whole heidi Cruz thing where she was found wandering down an expressway by a police officer?
That's not typical post partum stuff, that sounds to me like something was revealed to her.
Posted by: Swingline
She heard that Trump went bankrupt, again.
That's not typical post partum stuff, that sounds to me like something was revealed to her.
Posted by: Swingline
She heard that Trump went bankrupt, again.
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 25, 2016 05:10 PM (hzdiH)
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"Except Cruz said Trump was behind it...."
Cruz took the bait. So did Trump a few days ago.
Key part of the linked article: "A half-dozen GOP operatives and media figures tell The Daily Beast that Cruz's opponents have been pushing charges of adultery for at least six months now -- and that allies of former GOP presidential hopeful Marco Rubio were involved in spreading the smears."
Cruz took the bait. So did Trump a few days ago.
Key part of the linked article: "A half-dozen GOP operatives and media figures tell The Daily Beast that Cruz's opponents have been pushing charges of adultery for at least six months now -- and that allies of former GOP presidential hopeful Marco Rubio were involved in spreading the smears."
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 25, 2016 05:10 PM (bQxkN)
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There was a time that the conservative movement liked to flatter itself as being all about honor and even virtue..
How utterly human to think so - and then fail at it.
There was a time that the conservative movement liked to flatter itself as being all about honor and even virtue..
How utterly human to think so - and then fail at it.
Posted by: DaveA at March 25, 2016 05:10 PM (DL2i+)
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Yep, the timing is very suspicious, Nat'l E leaks story on the very evening of the wife strife Cruz-Trump Twitter twatting BS.
Posted by: Bebe Dahl at March 25, 2016 04:58 PM (yNyJy)
I think it takes a bit longer to put a story together. It wasn't "Cruz had an affair", It was Cruz had five affairs, and here are the women. NE has been right about these things before.If the story is true, (and that remains a big if), they'll let things percolate for a couple days, then start revealing their evidence.
Posted by: Bebe Dahl at March 25, 2016 04:58 PM (yNyJy)
I think it takes a bit longer to put a story together. It wasn't "Cruz had an affair", It was Cruz had five affairs, and here are the women. NE has been right about these things before.If the story is true, (and that remains a big if), they'll let things percolate for a couple days, then start revealing their evidence.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 25, 2016 05:10 PM (0IhFx)
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Then why are they so anti-Trump, the guy who will, with 100% certainty, lose to Hillary?
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 25, 2016 04:59 PM (RcpcZ)
Oh of course the GOPe don't want to be associated with Trump and the slice of his supporters who are 'vulgar'. Its one thing to say "oh noes, we are sorry base we tried but we lost" and still be invited to the right parties in DC, it is quite another to have to either be flat out exposed to your base as not giving a shit what they want to the point were you may become the 21st century Whigs or have your liberal cocktail buddies lumping you in with the worst stereotypes of 'bitter clingers'
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 25, 2016 04:59 PM (RcpcZ)
Oh of course the GOPe don't want to be associated with Trump and the slice of his supporters who are 'vulgar'. Its one thing to say "oh noes, we are sorry base we tried but we lost" and still be invited to the right parties in DC, it is quite another to have to either be flat out exposed to your base as not giving a shit what they want to the point were you may become the 21st century Whigs or have your liberal cocktail buddies lumping you in with the worst stereotypes of 'bitter clingers'
Posted by: Palerider at March 25, 2016 05:11 PM (dkExz)
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386 I am far more concerned that Ashcroft stated today that supposedly the number two ISIS leader was taken out, less than a week after Brussels. Hmmm, that's convenient.
Posted by: Bebe Dahl at March 25, 2016 05:08 PM (yNyJy)
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Everyone is the #2 leader. Prove Ahmed Mohhammed Muhammed Ahmed Abdul isn't #2.
Posted by: Bebe Dahl at March 25, 2016 05:08 PM (yNyJy)
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Everyone is the #2 leader. Prove Ahmed Mohhammed Muhammed Ahmed Abdul isn't #2.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 25, 2016 05:11 PM (0LHZx)
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"The establishment" has become defined as anything distasteful to anyone at any given moment. It's become a bogeyman, a scapegoat for not getting your own way.
Just because your hero Rubio got shot down in flames is no reason to take it out on Ace, son. If you're that worked up and upset over a politician's loss maybe its time to take some time off and rethink your priorities and life.
Just because your hero Rubio got shot down in flames is no reason to take it out on Ace, son. If you're that worked up and upset over a politician's loss maybe its time to take some time off and rethink your priorities and life.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 05:11 PM (39g3+)
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Glenn Beck has also taken the religious rhetoric to unprecedented heights on Cruz's behalf.
Evangelicals who voted Trump "not listening to their God". Amazing.
Cruz got a landslide in Utah out of it, but it also helped to define in him in a certain way.
Evangelicals who voted Trump "not listening to their God". Amazing.
Cruz got a landslide in Utah out of it, but it also helped to define in him in a certain way.
Posted by: Just Sayin' at March 25, 2016 05:11 PM (2kjDY)
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357 Not seeing you as argumentative at all. The ascension, the empty tomb, the empty cross are all the deepest of deep waters for the believer because of the revelation given through Paul (not found in the four Gospels or early Acts) that God counts each believer of the Good News as having been co-crucified, died, buried and even now raised and seated in Christ in the heavenlies. Exactly HOW God has done this, I won't pretend to know other than to humbly assume it's just His prerogative - going back to Abram - of calling that which to us appears not, as though it is. And so...it is so. THAT, the package deal Taylor refers to, is the believer's true and only hope. And it is a hope that will not disappoint, so hang onto it. 
Posted by: doomed at March 25, 2016 05:11 PM (bGLSw)
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I took you to task a couple of posts ago, and this is MUCH better.
But pls keep in mind--they only do all this nastiness because it works on we, the electorate. If we would ignore this scheiss, even hold it against them, they would stop doing it in a heartbeat.
But pls keep in mind--they only do all this nastiness because it works on we, the electorate. If we would ignore this scheiss, even hold it against them, they would stop doing it in a heartbeat.
Posted by: mhjhnsn at March 25, 2016 05:12 PM (FZdvr)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 25, 2016 05:12 PM (iQIUe)
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Key part of the linked article: "A half-dozen GOP operatives and media figures tell The Daily Beast that Cruz's opponents have been pushing charges of adultery for at least six months now -- and that allies of former GOP presidential hopeful Marco Rubio were involved in spreading the smears."
Well, if so many people had "this" why were 't any of them Dems?Perhaps they were waiting to see if He got the nod....
Well, if so many people had "this" why were 't any of them Dems?Perhaps they were waiting to see if He got the nod....
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 05:12 PM (O2RFr)
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Yeah, I don't get all the vitriol really. Since last August the 2 candidates I liked the best were Trump and Cruz. They each possessed some qualities of "the outsider" that were attractive. I wanted a double barreled middle finger salute to the Republican political machine in DC, with an added kick in the balls, then set their house on fire. They've betrayed us all for too long, the establishment is every bit as responsible for wrecking the republic as the commie scum on the left - because our side thought that "being nice" and "getting along" with commie scum was the proper and polite thing to do. And I (we) have only been just dumb hicks for them to fleece. No, your opinion doesn't matter. It never has, apparently.
So I'm disgusted lately with my candidate (Trump) going after Mrs Cruz, but also disgusted with the super PAC that pulled the Melania ad.
Yes, truth and honor are gone, but didn't we say that we were headed this way, back when Bill Clinton was inserting cigars into interns and washing his pecker in the Oval office bathroom?
I've been investing in a lot more bourbon lately.
And watching AMC's TURN on an endless loop, just to imagine what it must've been like to live among men of truth and honor. That George Washington was really somethin'.
Happy Easter everybody.
So I'm disgusted lately with my candidate (Trump) going after Mrs Cruz, but also disgusted with the super PAC that pulled the Melania ad.
Yes, truth and honor are gone, but didn't we say that we were headed this way, back when Bill Clinton was inserting cigars into interns and washing his pecker in the Oval office bathroom?
I've been investing in a lot more bourbon lately.
And watching AMC's TURN on an endless loop, just to imagine what it must've been like to live among men of truth and honor. That George Washington was really somethin'.
Happy Easter everybody.
Posted by: FredB at March 25, 2016 05:12 PM (mkgf1)
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What WeirdDave said.
Posted by: Emmie at March 25, 2016 05:13 PM (rRHdN)
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Donna.. I agree. a year ago I thought this was a done deal. I saw Rubio soaring to the nomination and winning. Then Trump gets in, and God forbid, Jeb (who should have known better) and Katshit and now? I don't know what I will do or if I even care who wins. I think I will just write in Snoopy on election day. The whole thing is disgusting.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 25, 2016 05:13 PM (CNHr1)
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''it is not about the person''
Yeah it is. We need to admit that by this point we're picking temporary kings. Their particular brands of Politcial Personality Disorder matter *a lot.*
Yeah it is. We need to admit that by this point we're picking temporary kings. Their particular brands of Politcial Personality Disorder matter *a lot.*
Posted by: Knemon at March 25, 2016 05:13 PM (tTEVx)
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hillary has 0% of being elected. She is disliked by dems and reps alike i live in deap blue Ct. She doesnt have a chance.
Posted by: john at March 25, 2016 05:13 PM (X/4Dj)
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Being a gun guy and all ... Kinda curious exactly HOW each candidate decided to shoot themselves in the dick.
Do you stretch it out and then shoot, being careful not to hit you hand ? Or slap the clown a bit, then aim at the head ?
The more you know ...
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 25, 2016 04:52 PM (zfvHs)
Not exactly shooting your dick off, but close.
Warning: Graphic, Language
http://www.king5.com/mb/news/ man-loses-leg-after-shooting-lawmower-full-of-explosives/100688390
Being a gun guy and all ... Kinda curious exactly HOW each candidate decided to shoot themselves in the dick.
Do you stretch it out and then shoot, being careful not to hit you hand ? Or slap the clown a bit, then aim at the head ?
The more you know ...
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 25, 2016 04:52 PM (zfvHs)
Not exactly shooting your dick off, but close.
Warning: Graphic, Language
http://www.king5.com/mb/news/ man-loses-leg-after-shooting-lawmower-full-of-explosives/100688390
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian at March 25, 2016 05:14 PM (QvJot)
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>>>0 /smiles at the circular firing squad as pundits call those they will need support from in the election stupid and evil...
if you're talking to me -- why do you assume I need you so badly? I probably care less about this than you.
if you're talking to me -- why do you assume I need you so badly? I probably care less about this than you.
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 05:14 PM (dciA+)
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CLAIM: ISIS Agents Working in Western Airports...
On drudge. Wd not surprise me.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 25, 2016 05:12 PM (iQIUe)
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Have you been to MSP lately? I challenge you to find one non-Muslim employee.
On drudge. Wd not surprise me.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 25, 2016 05:12 PM (iQIUe)
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Have you been to MSP lately? I challenge you to find one non-Muslim employee.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 25, 2016 05:14 PM (0LHZx)
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378 I would gladly make Kinberly Guillefoyle as many waffles as she would like.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 25, 2016 05:06 PM
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Not sure if bathwater and waffles go together, but I would gladly do the research with Kimberly to find out.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 25, 2016 05:06 PM
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Not sure if bathwater and waffles go together, but I would gladly do the research with Kimberly to find out.
Posted by: olddog in mo at March 25, 2016 05:14 PM (Dhht7)
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410 Donna.. I agree. a year ago I thought this was a done deal. I saw Rubio soaring to the nomination and winning. Then Trump gets in, and God forbid, Jeb (who should have known better) and Katshit and now? I don't know what I will do or if I even care who wins. I think I will just write in Snoopy on election day. The whole thing is disgusting
Agreed...
Agreed...
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 05:14 PM (O2RFr)
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Posted by: Don Quixote at March 25, 2016 05:09 PM (qf6WZ)
It is? Oh wow, how the dims have any chance at all in this election is mind boggling to me. It's like a death wish or something, sheesh.
Posted by: Don Quixote at March 25, 2016 05:09 PM (qf6WZ)
It is? Oh wow, how the dims have any chance at all in this election is mind boggling to me. It's like a death wish or something, sheesh.
Posted by: Bebe Dahl at March 25, 2016 05:14 PM (yNyJy)
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372
The Trump implosion (spontaneous or pre-planned, won't matter, result will be the same) has been a sure bet from the beginning. Just a matter of time.
The Trump implosion (spontaneous or pre-planned, won't matter, result will be the same) has been a sure bet from the beginning. Just a matter of time.
Posted by: doomed at March 25, 2016 05:14 PM (bGLSw)
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Every campaign can make things up that aren't true and "shop" the story.
The idea that all of these other campaigns found Cruz to be the perfect one to make up alleged mistresses about seems far fetched.
I mean even Cruz fired his Communications Director for "crossing the line"
So why is Cruz the only candidate with a mistress story if this so easy to do?
The idea that all of these other campaigns found Cruz to be the perfect one to make up alleged mistresses about seems far fetched.
I mean even Cruz fired his Communications Director for "crossing the line"
So why is Cruz the only candidate with a mistress story if this so easy to do?
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 05:14 PM (F6Ili)
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I don't like Trump, and think hillary is the lowest form of a being on this planet, but for people like Rubio and Paul Ryan I have a blood feud in the words someone mentioned the other day. I know what Trump and hillary are, but those guys pretending to be conservatives living off the work and donations of conservatives and stabbing them in the back need the tar and feathers treatment.
I don't like Trump, and think hillary is the lowest form of a being on this planet, but for people like Rubio and Paul Ryan I have a blood feud in the words someone mentioned the other day. I know what Trump and hillary are, but those guys pretending to be conservatives living off the work and donations of conservatives and stabbing them in the back need the tar and feathers treatment.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 25, 2016 05:15 PM (ODxAs)
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So why is Cruz the only candidate with a mistress story if this so easy to do?
And why did so many people supposedly have this story?
And why did so many people supposedly have this story?
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 05:16 PM (O2RFr)
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Yeah, I don't think there is anything ordinary about the level that Cruz is painting himself as. I have nothing against the religious that are not head choppers, but you would think he is running for pastor in chief. That's not ordinary for 20 years ago.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian at March 25, 2016 04:45 PM (QvJot)
Does Jimmeh Carter ring a bell?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian at March 25, 2016 04:45 PM (QvJot)
Does Jimmeh Carter ring a bell?
Posted by: MarkY at March 25, 2016 05:16 PM (4mcvx)
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Amen Weirddave @395 was spot on
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2016 05:16 PM (voOPb)
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Cruz got a landslide in Utah out of it, but it also helped to define in him in a certain way.
Cruz would have won Utah by a large margin anyway.
Cruz got a landslide in Utah out of it, but it also helped to define in him in a certain way.
Cruz would have won Utah by a large margin anyway.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 25, 2016 05:16 PM (lKyWE)
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This whole #LusTed #BusTed scandal is a bunch of nonsense. I rather doubt Ted Cruz is some serial philanderer.
But I saw plenty of dirt thrown at Marco by both Trump and Cruz fans, including grainy fair away shots of gay pride parades with Marco (allegedly) in attendance. I assumed that was BS too.
Rather than slinging mud back and forth between Cruz and Rubio supporters, perhaps, just perhaps, we should be focused on dealing with Mr. Trump and his take over of the nomination.
But I saw plenty of dirt thrown at Marco by both Trump and Cruz fans, including grainy fair away shots of gay pride parades with Marco (allegedly) in attendance. I assumed that was BS too.
Rather than slinging mud back and forth between Cruz and Rubio supporters, perhaps, just perhaps, we should be focused on dealing with Mr. Trump and his take over of the nomination.
Posted by: Evi L. Bloggerlady at March 25, 2016 05:16 PM (4kTo2)
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yeah he denounced it in a tweet in which he noted all the times the NE had been right about affairs.
my goodness.
I don't know what the fuck to make of this.
I'm not asking this rhetorically, I'm asking straight: Are you this gullible, or are you merely required to pretend to be this gullible in order to agitate for your guy who will make great deals like he made on Trump Air?
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:57 PM (dciA+)
I only knew Trump denounced it - nothing about him saying how the NE had been correct on other scandals.
But I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump take a few cheap parting shots. Totally unbecoming, but Trump is a cheap shot artist. Let's see if he keeps pushing it.
What bothers me the most is people with the sole goal to keep Trump below 1237 no matter what.
That's not pulling for Cruz, that's pulling for the GOPe and a brokered convention. And Cruz won't win a brokered convention.
yeah he denounced it in a tweet in which he noted all the times the NE had been right about affairs.
my goodness.
I don't know what the fuck to make of this.
I'm not asking this rhetorically, I'm asking straight: Are you this gullible, or are you merely required to pretend to be this gullible in order to agitate for your guy who will make great deals like he made on Trump Air?
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 04:57 PM (dciA+)
I only knew Trump denounced it - nothing about him saying how the NE had been correct on other scandals.
But I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump take a few cheap parting shots. Totally unbecoming, but Trump is a cheap shot artist. Let's see if he keeps pushing it.
What bothers me the most is people with the sole goal to keep Trump below 1237 no matter what.
That's not pulling for Cruz, that's pulling for the GOPe and a brokered convention. And Cruz won't win a brokered convention.
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 25, 2016 05:17 PM (RcpcZ)
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>>Also, the whole heidi Cruz thing where she was found wandering down an expressway by a police officer?
She wasn't found wandering anywhere. She was found sitting in a grassy area by a highway onramp. She was given a ride home by a cop who thought she was depressed. And she was.
It was 11 years ago and not a secret. It has nothing to do with this current tabloid crap.
She wasn't found wandering anywhere. She was found sitting in a grassy area by a highway onramp. She was given a ride home by a cop who thought she was depressed. And she was.
It was 11 years ago and not a secret. It has nothing to do with this current tabloid crap.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 25, 2016 05:17 PM (/tuJf)
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I won't hold it against anyone for supporting Trump (Rubio maybe).
What I will hold against them is how they behaved in their support.
The same for Cruz supporters. Yes I hesitatingly suppoprt Cruz.
What I will hold against them is how they behaved in their support.
The same for Cruz supporters. Yes I hesitatingly suppoprt Cruz.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW SPI at March 25, 2016 05:17 PM (+aCe4)
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I'm honestly asking, why is Drew Johnson from the Washington Times saying some of these mistress stories are true?
Are we just to assume he's on the take?
Seems a very bold statement to make, is he really throwing his career away to get a hit in?
Are we just to assume he's on the take?
Seems a very bold statement to make, is he really throwing his career away to get a hit in?
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 05:17 PM (F6Ili)
431
hillary has 0% of being elected. She is disliked by dems and reps alike i live in deap blue Ct. She doesnt have a chance.
Posted by: john
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Are you in the Yahoo group?
Because I'd like to make a private wager.
Posted by: john
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Are you in the Yahoo group?
Because I'd like to make a private wager.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 25, 2016 05:17 PM (9mTYi)
432
Posted by: Bebe Dahl at March 25, 2016 05:08 PM (yNyJy)
____
Everyone is the #2 leader. Prove Ahmed Mohhammed Muhammed Ahmed Abdul isn't #2.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 25, 2016 05:11 PM (0LHZx)
Exactly.
Posted by: Bebe Dahl at March 25, 2016 05:08 PM (yNyJy)
____
Everyone is the #2 leader. Prove Ahmed Mohhammed Muhammed Ahmed Abdul isn't #2.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 25, 2016 05:11 PM (0LHZx)
Exactly.
Posted by: Bebe Dahl at March 25, 2016 05:17 PM (yNyJy)
433
So it's a case of "My guy" vs "My beliefs".
Yup that pretty much describes Trump vs. Cruz as well.
I am personally not rooting specifically for Cruz the person, but I am rooting for the ideas that Cruz is espousing.
When it comes to Trump, all he has is a cult of personality, because his ideas are shit and he is a horrible human being to boot.
Yup that pretty much describes Trump vs. Cruz as well.
I am personally not rooting specifically for Cruz the person, but I am rooting for the ideas that Cruz is espousing.
When it comes to Trump, all he has is a cult of personality, because his ideas are shit and he is a horrible human being to boot.
Posted by: chemjeff at March 25, 2016 05:17 PM (+Fl7e)
434
Amanda Carpenter was tweeting a couple of days ago about blacklisting Trump supporters.
Posted by: @votermom at March 25, 2016 05:17 PM (nbrY/)
435
Look at Harry Reid stating on the Senate floor about Mittens taxes, it was all bull but it won't Barak lots of votes.
Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2016 05:18 PM (fizMZ)
436
412 hillary has 0% of being elected. She is disliked by dems and reps alike i live in deap blue Ct. She doesnt have a chance.
Posted by: john at March 25, 2016 05:13 PM (X/4Dj)
Dear Lord, I so want to believe this. The thought of her in the office keeps me awake nights. As I've said before, she is the worst presidential candidate in American history.
Posted by: john at March 25, 2016 05:13 PM (X/4Dj)
Dear Lord, I so want to believe this. The thought of her in the office keeps me awake nights. As I've said before, she is the worst presidential candidate in American history.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at March 25, 2016 05:18 PM (RwwCT)
437
So why is Cruz the only candidate with a mistress story if this so easy to do?
Posted by: Swingline
Because it's only March.
When did W's DWI story come out?
Posted by: Swingline
Because it's only March.
When did W's DWI story come out?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 25, 2016 05:18 PM (A/3fN)
438
>>I told him, honestly, no, it was the right
thing to do, and if he knew he COULD HAVE gotten laid, isn't that really
60% of thrill of geting laid anyway?
It's this kind of thinking that drives one to Kaboom!
Posted by: JackStraw at March 25, 2016 05:09 PM (/tuJf)
While waiting to check out at a Wal-Mart my elbow brushed against the boob off this hot chick behind me. Lost it right there. It was awesome.
thing to do, and if he knew he COULD HAVE gotten laid, isn't that really
60% of thrill of geting laid anyway?
It's this kind of thinking that drives one to Kaboom!
Posted by: JackStraw at March 25, 2016 05:09 PM (/tuJf)
While waiting to check out at a Wal-Mart my elbow brushed against the boob off this hot chick behind me. Lost it right there. It was awesome.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 25, 2016 05:18 PM (T78UI)
439
So Rubio fanboys were pushing the affair thing and a former Rubio supporting super-pac attacked Trump's wife. And Rubio is jobless right now. Hmm.
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 25, 2016 05:19 PM (hzdiH)
440
as I've said before, she is the worst presidential candidate in American history.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at March 25, 2016 05:18 PM (RwwCT)
Uhm.....
Posted by: Pug Mahon at March 25, 2016 05:18 PM (RwwCT)
Uhm.....
Posted by: Barry H. at March 25, 2016 05:19 PM (0LHZx)
441
''We have to think more about starting anew than recovering something that's already gone."
Phrasing it as a question: as a conservative, exactly what is left in America circa 2016 that's actually worth conserving?
Take a long look around. With the unaided Mark One eyeball. No rose-tinted glasses allowed. See things as they actually are.
Phrasing it as a question: as a conservative, exactly what is left in America circa 2016 that's actually worth conserving?
Take a long look around. With the unaided Mark One eyeball. No rose-tinted glasses allowed. See things as they actually are.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 25, 2016 05:19 PM (noWW6)
442
So why is Cruz the only candidate with a mistress story if this so easy to do?
Posted by: Swingline
Because it's only March.
When did W's DWI story come out?
Posted by: weft cut-loop
The DWI story ended up being true.
I'm saying why doesn't everyone have a "mistress" story by now if this is so easy to coordinate?
Posted by: Swingline
Because it's only March.
When did W's DWI story come out?
Posted by: weft cut-loop
The DWI story ended up being true.
I'm saying why doesn't everyone have a "mistress" story by now if this is so easy to coordinate?
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 05:20 PM (F6Ili)
443
"hillary has 0% of being elected. She is disliked by dems and reps alike i live in deap blue Ct. She doesnt have a chance."
Tee hee!
Tee hee!
Posted by: Diebold Corp., Voting Machine Division at March 25, 2016 05:20 PM (bGLSw)
444
Two things I'm pretty sure of in a potential Trump vs Hillary election. Whether Trump wins or (most likely) loses, it'll be a landslide, and the voter turnout will be amongst the lowest in history.
Posted by: mugiwara at March 25, 2016 05:21 PM (ect26)
445
440 as I've said before, she is the worst presidential candidate in American history.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at March 25, 2016 05:18 PM (RwwCT)
Uhm.....
Posted by: Barry H. at March 25, 2016 05:19 PM (0LHZx
Noted.
She. would. be. worse.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at March 25, 2016 05:18 PM (RwwCT)
Uhm.....
Posted by: Barry H. at March 25, 2016 05:19 PM (0LHZx
Noted.
She. would. be. worse.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at March 25, 2016 05:21 PM (RwwCT)
446
As a Kimberly Guilfoyle waffle supporter and typically a lurker, I must admit there are a lot of new nics here today.
Posted by: olddog in mo at March 25, 2016 05:21 PM (Dhht7)
447
ace - I'm glad your little sketchy amnesty bitch lost the race. He deserved to lose, and you-all deserve to cry your little Marco-lovin' eyes out over it.
Maybe Mario can drink your tears -- because, I'm given to understand, he really loves water.
wow
punches held - 0
Maybe Mario can drink your tears -- because, I'm given to understand, he really loves water.
wow
punches held - 0
Posted by: navycopjoe at March 25, 2016 05:21 PM (Qcady)
448
You all think we're losing out shit now- both GOP and Dems? Wait for the first heatwave. THEN you're gonna something bad.
This isn't gonna be pretty, but national breakups seldom are
This isn't gonna be pretty, but national breakups seldom are
Posted by: Tradd at March 25, 2016 05:21 PM (BY9XO)
449
Look at Harry Reid stating on the Senate floor about Mittens taxes, it was all bull but it won't Barak lots of votes.
Posted by: Skip
What "lost " Romney votes was he was unwilling to disclose his tax returns. Just a dumb move.
But nobody really believe Romney never paid his taxes.
Posted by: Skip
What "lost " Romney votes was he was unwilling to disclose his tax returns. Just a dumb move.
But nobody really believe Romney never paid his taxes.
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 05:22 PM (F6Ili)
450
Phrasing it as a question: as a conservative, exactly what is left in America circa 2016 that's actually worth conserving?
Take a long look around. With the unaided Mark One eyeball. No rose-tinted glasses allowed. See things as they actually are.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 25, 2016 05:19 PM (noWW6)
_______
It's pretty much over. There's nothing American about America anymore.
Take a long look around. With the unaided Mark One eyeball. No rose-tinted glasses allowed. See things as they actually are.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 25, 2016 05:19 PM (noWW6)
_______
It's pretty much over. There's nothing American about America anymore.
Posted by: Barry H. at March 25, 2016 05:22 PM (0LHZx)
451
While waiting to check out at a Wal-Mart my elbow brushed against the boob off this hot chick behind me. Lost it right there. It was awesome.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 25, 2016 05:18 PM (T78UI)
Pics?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 25, 2016 05:18 PM (T78UI)
Pics?
Posted by: Weird Nick at March 25, 2016 05:22 PM (PEKYn)
452
Torquewrench, I see a lot of people who still understand what liberty is and recognize its value.
Posted by: Emmie at March 25, 2016 05:22 PM (rRHdN)
453
Why don't I think some leftists websites don't have Hillery/Bernie flame wars?
Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2016 05:22 PM (fizMZ)
454
"Cruz would have won Utah by a large margin anyway."
Sure, I agree. He'd have been far better off without Glenn Beck. It probably didn't gain him any states, but it defined him in a way that polarizes people.
Sure, I agree. He'd have been far better off without Glenn Beck. It probably didn't gain him any states, but it defined him in a way that polarizes people.
Posted by: Just Sayin' at March 25, 2016 05:23 PM (2kjDY)
455
>>I'm saying why doesn't everyone have a "mistress" story by now if this is so easy to coordinate?
Would a mistress story about Trump move any Trump voters?
No they would not.
Would a mistress story about Trump move any Trump voters?
No they would not.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 25, 2016 05:23 PM (/tuJf)
456
CLAIM: ISIS Agents Working in Western Airports...
On drudge. Wd not surprise me.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 25, 2016 05:12 PM (iQIUe)
Who do think keeps stealing you itty bitty pocket knives and those shampoo bottles you could explosives it? They get trash bags full of that stuff every day.
On drudge. Wd not surprise me.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 25, 2016 05:12 PM (iQIUe)
Who do think keeps stealing you itty bitty pocket knives and those shampoo bottles you could explosives it? They get trash bags full of that stuff every day.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 25, 2016 05:23 PM (T78UI)
457
>>> I'm honestly asking, why is Drew Johnson from the Washington Times saying some of these mistress stories are true?
Are we just to assume he's on the take?
...
um, because, like me, and like half the people in the political world, he HEARD the rumor before other people did?
Yeah, I heard a rumor about Katria Pierson. I did not have the story. I heard the rumor.
Drew whatever his name is obviously didn't ahve the story either, or he would have published.
The NE does not have the story either, or else they'd have published the story -- not an article claiming that their are claims, not a report reporting that there are reports.
I hate to tell you guys this but there are lots of rumors you probably haven't heard. Or maybe you have. I don't know what rumors you've heard.
but I've heard a lot of them, from politicians to fox news people.
Not every rumor you hear is true, and people who think they are kinda naive. (So are people who don't think that some of them are true, to be fair.)
Are we just to assume he's on the take?
...
um, because, like me, and like half the people in the political world, he HEARD the rumor before other people did?
Yeah, I heard a rumor about Katria Pierson. I did not have the story. I heard the rumor.
Drew whatever his name is obviously didn't ahve the story either, or he would have published.
The NE does not have the story either, or else they'd have published the story -- not an article claiming that their are claims, not a report reporting that there are reports.
I hate to tell you guys this but there are lots of rumors you probably haven't heard. Or maybe you have. I don't know what rumors you've heard.
but I've heard a lot of them, from politicians to fox news people.
Not every rumor you hear is true, and people who think they are kinda naive. (So are people who don't think that some of them are true, to be fair.)
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 05:23 PM (dciA+)
458
Olddog, also some old nics we haven't seen in awhile.
Posted by: Emmie at March 25, 2016 05:24 PM (rRHdN)
459
So why is Cruz the only candidate with a mistress story if this so easy to do?
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 05:14 PM (F6Ili)
In Trump's case, he brags about his exploits. If a tabloid accused him of having an affair with some Hollywood starlet, he could probably direct them to the chapter in his book devoted to the tryst.
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 05:14 PM (F6Ili)
In Trump's case, he brags about his exploits. If a tabloid accused him of having an affair with some Hollywood starlet, he could probably direct them to the chapter in his book devoted to the tryst.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 25, 2016 05:24 PM (0IhFx)
460
Would a mistress story about Trump move any Trump voters?
No they would not.
He's had plenty, but they're out there... That's the advantage of being a "celebrity" instead of a politician....
No they would not.
He's had plenty, but they're out there... That's the advantage of being a "celebrity" instead of a politician....
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 05:24 PM (O2RFr)
461
And Cruz goes out and claims Trump is behind it...
After denying any association with the Melania thing. This is why
principles are so important because principles would have kept Ted from
lashing out at Trump.
All I'm left to do is root for a brokered convention...
Scott Walker 2016! Humble leadership who predicted the future... (I.e. Trump taking all the o2)
Help us Obi-Walker you're our only hope.
Posted by: Gov98 at March 25, 2016 04:01 PM (cdCFg)
The delusion is strong with you.
Cruz was not behind the Melania thing... that was an ex-Walker staffer and a Super Rubio fan and their PAC.
A Trump staffer (or ex Trump staffer) is the only one quoted by name in the NE article and Trump is likely behind it. If someone were willing to publish these rumors on Dondi's behest, they would have done so months ago.
Finally, no one who is not currently in the race and no one named Kasich will be the nominee. Not Romney, not Walker, not Paul Ryan, not fill in a name.
After denying any association with the Melania thing. This is why
principles are so important because principles would have kept Ted from
lashing out at Trump.
All I'm left to do is root for a brokered convention...
Scott Walker 2016! Humble leadership who predicted the future... (I.e. Trump taking all the o2)
Help us Obi-Walker you're our only hope.
Posted by: Gov98 at March 25, 2016 04:01 PM (cdCFg)
The delusion is strong with you.
Cruz was not behind the Melania thing... that was an ex-Walker staffer and a Super Rubio fan and their PAC.
A Trump staffer (or ex Trump staffer) is the only one quoted by name in the NE article and Trump is likely behind it. If someone were willing to publish these rumors on Dondi's behest, they would have done so months ago.
Finally, no one who is not currently in the race and no one named Kasich will be the nominee. Not Romney, not Walker, not Paul Ryan, not fill in a name.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 25, 2016 05:24 PM (NPofj)
462
Sometimes I have to remind myself ace doesn't have the luxury of ignore_user().
At the rate this is going I may use it on myself soon.
At the rate this is going I may use it on myself soon.
Posted by: DaveA at March 25, 2016 05:24 PM (DL2i+)
463
453 Why don't I think some leftists websites don't have Hillery/Bernie flame wars?
dailykos is basically that now
with more craycray and an unwashed odor
dailykos is basically that now
with more craycray and an unwashed odor
Posted by: navycopjoe at March 25, 2016 05:24 PM (Qcady)
Posted by: DaveA at March 25, 2016 05:25 PM (DL2i+)
465
So it's a case of "My guy" vs "My beliefs". If Ted Cruz goes down in flames, the principles of conservatism will still be as true and timeless as ever. When Marco went down, what was left? The "one guy who could win" was gone, and if you've tied everything up in that one guy there's nothing left but bitterness.
Posted by: Weirddave at March 25, 2016 05:10 PM (N8hFs)
+100!
On a scale of 1 to 10....
Posted by: Weirddave at March 25, 2016 05:10 PM (N8hFs)
+100!
On a scale of 1 to 10....
Posted by: Dirty Randy at March 25, 2016 05:25 PM (nhHPu)
466
You need a scorecard to keep track of things around here these days.Who is Amanda Carpenter?
You need a scorecard to keep track of things around here these days.Who is Amanda Carpenter?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 25, 2016 05:25 PM (lKyWE)
467
Surprised some people think hillary has no chance. Who is going to beat her? I mean really, who? Certainly no one coming out of the dysfunctional GOP party.
Surprised some people think hillary has no chance. Who is going to beat her? I mean really, who? Certainly no one coming out of the dysfunctional GOP party.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 25, 2016 05:25 PM (ODxAs)
468
Ace, you seen the Batman/Superman flop...sorry, "epic" yet?
Posted by: Diebold Corp., Voting Machine Division at March 25, 2016 05:25 PM (bGLSw)
469
I'm moving to Ireland, fuck it.
Posted by: Lauren at March 25, 2016 04:01 PM (kq8V
I may aim for Belize if Trump is the nominee. I probably won't but it is nice to imagine.
Posted by: Lauren at March 25, 2016 04:01 PM (kq8V
I may aim for Belize if Trump is the nominee. I probably won't but it is nice to imagine.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 25, 2016 05:25 PM (NPofj)
470
Disappointed Drudge cut out the black pointed wide brim hat and her holding a broom.
Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2016 05:25 PM (fizMZ)
471
There is still a small minority that appreciates freedom and liberty. I'd estimate 30%. There's another 30% that is outright fascist (see Bernie voters). The middle 40% is too idiotic to understand any of it. But because they are idiots, they are easily led to the fascist option with bribes like free college and free health care.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 25, 2016 05:25 PM (0LHZx)
472
Washington Times just fired Drew Johnson
Posted by: @votermom at March 25, 2016 05:26 PM (nbrY/)
473
Why don't I think some leftists websites don't have Hillery/Bernie flame wars?---------Skip
Because the collective won't tolerate it. The drones assimilate. It's what makes them leftists.
Because the collective won't tolerate it. The drones assimilate. It's what makes them leftists.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW SPI at March 25, 2016 05:26 PM (u0kqM)
Posted by: Carol at March 25, 2016 05:26 PM (sj3Ax)
475
You guys are depressing. I hope yall get over it before Easter.
Posted by: freaked at March 25, 2016 05:26 PM (BO/km)
476
457
But you're a political pundit for a blog, not a reporter.
A reporter from a newspaper saying these allegations are true IS something.
The Washington Times is not a Breitbart type outlet either. It's usually a pretty respectable outfit.
I just think it's different and troubling.
But you're a political pundit for a blog, not a reporter.
A reporter from a newspaper saying these allegations are true IS something.
The Washington Times is not a Breitbart type outlet either. It's usually a pretty respectable outfit.
I just think it's different and troubling.
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 05:26 PM (F6Ili)
477
Got to wine & dine. Later all.
Posted by: Bebe Dahl at March 25, 2016 05:26 PM (yNyJy)
478
Glenn Beck has also taken the religious rhetoric to unprecedented heights on Cruz's behalf.
Evangelicals who voted Trump "not listening to their God". Amazing.
Cruz got a landslide in Utah out of it, but it also helped to define in him in a certain way.
Posted by: Just Sayin' at March 25, 2016 05:11 PM (2kjDY)
Roll the clock back 12 months or so and barely anyone cared what Beck had to say about anything anymore. Everyone agreed that he'd jumped the Jesus shark and had become a lunatic.
Suddenly, he's got a whole new segment of Trump supporters hanging on his every word and posting it over and over again everywhere they can.
Evangelicals who voted Trump "not listening to their God". Amazing.
Cruz got a landslide in Utah out of it, but it also helped to define in him in a certain way.
Posted by: Just Sayin' at March 25, 2016 05:11 PM (2kjDY)
Roll the clock back 12 months or so and barely anyone cared what Beck had to say about anything anymore. Everyone agreed that he'd jumped the Jesus shark and had become a lunatic.
Suddenly, he's got a whole new segment of Trump supporters hanging on his every word and posting it over and over again everywhere they can.
Posted by: Damiano at March 25, 2016 05:27 PM (XItbt)
479
>>He's had plenty, but they're out there... That's the advantage of being a "celebrity" instead of a politician....
The real advantage is that he has created a candidate that can say and do anything and his supporters will find a way to justify it to themselves if nobody else.
The real advantage is that he has created a candidate that can say and do anything and his supporters will find a way to justify it to themselves if nobody else.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 25, 2016 05:27 PM (/tuJf)
480
Washington Times just fired Drew Johnson
Posted by: @votermom at March 25, 2016 05:26 PM (nbrY/)
Who is Drew Johnson.
Posted by: @votermom at March 25, 2016 05:26 PM (nbrY/)
Who is Drew Johnson.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 25, 2016 05:27 PM (NPofj)
481
"I
remember being on tenterhooks about the latest vaporscandal claimed to
be about to drop about Clinton during the nineties, for example."
Ace...a little proofreading would go a long way, chief.
remember being on tenterhooks about the latest vaporscandal claimed to
be about to drop about Clinton during the nineties, for example."
Ace...a little proofreading would go a long way, chief.
Posted by: Eric in Hollywood at March 25, 2016 05:27 PM (VD+3z)
482
463 453 Why don't I think some leftists websites don't have Hillery/Bernie flame wars?
dailykos is basically that now
with more craycray and an unwashed odor
Posted by: navycopjoe at March 25, 2016 05:24 PM (Qcady)
_____
They may have fmale wars. And they may hate each other. But on election day, they will put aside their difference and vote for the "D", no matter who the "D" is. That's why the left wins.
While on our side, we have people who throw tantrums and don't vote or vote 3rd party to make a point. And then bitch and whine for the next 4 years that the Democrat won.
dailykos is basically that now
with more craycray and an unwashed odor
Posted by: navycopjoe at March 25, 2016 05:24 PM (Qcady)
_____
They may have fmale wars. And they may hate each other. But on election day, they will put aside their difference and vote for the "D", no matter who the "D" is. That's why the left wins.
While on our side, we have people who throw tantrums and don't vote or vote 3rd party to make a point. And then bitch and whine for the next 4 years that the Democrat won.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 25, 2016 05:28 PM (0LHZx)
483
Hacker group Anonymous demanded Cruz get out of the race on Monday on they would reveal "prostitutes" etc.
They are claiming they are the revealers.
They are claiming they are the revealers.
Posted by: Meremortal, hmm at March 25, 2016 05:28 PM (3myMJ)
484
The real advantage is that he has created a candidate that can say and do anything and his supporters will find a way to justify it to themselves if nobody else.
You're right.. If only He wasn't such an ass....
The real advantage is that he has created a candidate that can say and do anything and his supporters will find a way to justify it to themselves if nobody else.
You're right.. If only He wasn't such an ass....
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 05:28 PM (O2RFr)
485
I'm saying why doesn't everyone have a "mistress" story by now if this is so easy to coordinate?
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 05:20 PM (F6Ili)
Well who the hell they gonna hang it on, Trump,who is a known ladies man? Would anyone blame Hillary for having a mistress after Bill?
Besides, Cruz is the religious guy, morals are where you hit him.
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 05:20 PM (F6Ili)
Well who the hell they gonna hang it on, Trump,who is a known ladies man? Would anyone blame Hillary for having a mistress after Bill?
Besides, Cruz is the religious guy, morals are where you hit him.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 25, 2016 05:28 PM (q1FtT)
486
Finally, no one who is not currently in the race and no one named Kasich will be the nominee. Not Romney, not Walker, not Paul Ryan, not fill in a name.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 25, 2016 05:24 PM (NPofj)
So you see Trump behind every bush.
I think Ace's explanation is much more likely: it's a Rubio hit job.
And nobody named Cruz will be nominated in a brokered convention.
Finally, no one who is not currently in the race and no one named Kasich will be the nominee. Not Romney, not Walker, not Paul Ryan, not fill in a name.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 25, 2016 05:24 PM (NPofj)
So you see Trump behind every bush.
I think Ace's explanation is much more likely: it's a Rubio hit job.
And nobody named Cruz will be nominated in a brokered convention.
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 25, 2016 05:29 PM (RcpcZ)
487
>>>468 Ace, you seen the Batman/Superman flop...sorry, "epic" yet?
no.... maybe will see this weekend.
no.... maybe will see this weekend.
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 05:29 PM (dciA+)
488
OK, a moment of naïve hope:
Maybe, just maybe, the Trump people and the Cruz people could (1) blame all this wife sleaze on the Rubio people, (2) bury the hatchet, and then (3) make a gentleman's agreement that the winner of this horse race pick the other as Veep?
I miss the bromance they had before NH.
Maybe, just maybe, the Trump people and the Cruz people could (1) blame all this wife sleaze on the Rubio people, (2) bury the hatchet, and then (3) make a gentleman's agreement that the winner of this horse race pick the other as Veep?
I miss the bromance they had before NH.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at March 25, 2016 05:29 PM (ujg0T)
489
Ace, consider the David Kendall connection between the Clintons and the Enquirer.
Seth Johnson was now a reporter, he was a columnist/commentator.
Seth Johnson was now a reporter, he was a columnist/commentator.
Posted by: Ab at March 25, 2016 05:29 PM (zhGHz)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 25, 2016 05:30 PM (q1FtT)
491
Gotta go. I'll check in later.
In the meantime, overcome evil with good and don't let the turkeys get you down!
In the meantime, overcome evil with good and don't let the turkeys get you down!
Posted by: Emmie at March 25, 2016 05:30 PM (rRHdN)
492
483 Hacker group Anonymous demanded Cruz get out of the race on Monday on they would reveal "prostitutes" etc.
They are claiming they are the revealers.
Oh, joy... The story just keeps on getting better and better... meanwhile Hillary! is coasting toward the Presidency with nary a mark against Her... Pure as the driven snow..... Sickening....
They are claiming they are the revealers.
Oh, joy... The story just keeps on getting better and better... meanwhile Hillary! is coasting toward the Presidency with nary a mark against Her... Pure as the driven snow..... Sickening....
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 05:30 PM (O2RFr)
493
I heard all about Roger Stone on Rush when he was fired.
I searched TWS archives & saved story from 2007.
I'll be right back & link it here.
I have is saved in Safari & I use Mercury browser here.
I searched TWS archives & saved story from 2007.
I'll be right back & link it here.
I have is saved in Safari & I use Mercury browser here.
Posted by: Carol at March 25, 2016 05:30 PM (sj3Ax)
494
Now=not
Posted by: Ab at March 25, 2016 05:30 PM (zhGHz)
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 05:30 PM (dciA+)
496
Oops never mind stupid fake tweet
I'll make dinner now
I'll make dinner now
Posted by: @votermom at March 25, 2016 05:31 PM (nbrY/)
497
meanwhile Hillary! is coasting toward the Presidency with nary a mark against Her... Pure as the driven snow..... Sickening....
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 05:30 PM (O2RFr)
Amazing, isn't it?
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 05:30 PM (O2RFr)
Amazing, isn't it?
Posted by: Meremortal, hmm at March 25, 2016 05:31 PM (3myMJ)
498
Well who the hell they gonna hang it on, Trump,who is a known ladies man? Would anyone blame Hillary for having a mistress after Bill?
Besides, Cruz is the religious guy, morals are where you hit him.--------Tammy al-Thor
Alinsky tactic.
Besides, Cruz is the religious guy, morals are where you hit him.--------Tammy al-Thor
Alinsky tactic.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW SPI at March 25, 2016 05:31 PM (uhftQ)
499
I've been very harsh on Trump, but I've always been very careful never to say never--until today.
I will NEVER pull the lever for this overgrown New York City sewer rat.
Trump is a human dumpster fire, only more foul smelling. He's a post-nuclear political cockroach, a moral maggot and a human slug, leaving a trail of putrid slime over anything and everything he touches.
#NeverTrump Forever!
I will NEVER pull the lever for this overgrown New York City sewer rat.
Trump is a human dumpster fire, only more foul smelling. He's a post-nuclear political cockroach, a moral maggot and a human slug, leaving a trail of putrid slime over anything and everything he touches.
#NeverTrump Forever!
Posted by: the Gipper Lives at March 25, 2016 05:31 PM (Ndje9)
500
Roger Stone was not fired by trump, said so in an interview with Andrew wilcow. He fully supports trump and fid push this story.
Posted by: reality man at March 25, 2016 05:31 PM (ABhRF)
501
Sweet, merciful heaven what a shitshow.
Depressing to think that I'm hoping the Libertarian Party comes out of their pot-induced stupor long enough to re-nominate Gov. Gary Johnson so I can have a non-felon, non-sociopath to vote for in November.
Depressing to think that I'm hoping the Libertarian Party comes out of their pot-induced stupor long enough to re-nominate Gov. Gary Johnson so I can have a non-felon, non-sociopath to vote for in November.
Posted by: DocJ at March 25, 2016 05:32 PM (5Nr9V)
502
Allahpundit at Hotair has a story up on this.
There coming out fast now after nota peep this morning.
There coming out fast now after nota peep this morning.
Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2016 05:32 PM (fizMZ)
503
"The Washington Times is not a Breitbart type outlet either. It's usually a pretty respectable outfit."
nah, that's the Examiner. The Times is bin liner
nah, that's the Examiner. The Times is bin liner
Posted by: Knemon at March 25, 2016 05:32 PM (tTEVx)
504
Darn it I'm on my phone so it's impractical to post the video of Walter the Muppet screaming hysterically.
Just *imagine* Walter screaming.
Just *imagine* Walter screaming.
Posted by: Merovign, sick of Comcast's Shit at March 25, 2016 05:32 PM (jJjex)
505
Posted by: JackStraw at March 25, 2016 05:23 PM (/tuJf)
Trumpkins would probably give him a thumbs up, say it's ok because The Donald can not be satisfied by one woman. They have awesome rationalization skills
Trumpkins would probably give him a thumbs up, say it's ok because The Donald can not be satisfied by one woman. They have awesome rationalization skills
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2016 05:32 PM (voOPb)
506
one way to put it
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 05:30 PM (dciA+)
I thought we had to watch our language when Daywalking?
Posted by: ace at March 25, 2016 05:30 PM (dciA+)
I thought we had to watch our language when Daywalking?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 25, 2016 05:32 PM (q1FtT)
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 25, 2016 05:33 PM (hzdiH)
Posted by: Carol at March 25, 2016 05:33 PM (sj3Ax)
509
I'm thinking Barry's white half is really going to take the passing of Ken Howard hard. Ever since we met, all he ever tells me is how much he likes Salami
Posted by: Reggie Love at March 25, 2016 05:34 PM (12kBq)
510
Rubio keeps this crap up President Trump or Cruz might not offer him anything higher than asat under secretary at hud
Posted by: Jean at March 25, 2016 05:34 PM (cXiMR)
511
"Suddenly, he's got a whole new segment of Trump supporters hanging on his every word and posting it over and over again everywhere they can. "
Yes, because he's suddenly closely associated with one of the two remaining candidates. He used to be more of a nobody, now he's relevant again.
It's not really a serious objection to Cruz, just a discussion of how the race played out.
Beck helped to define Cruz, at least in the minds of Cruz skeptical people. And Beck is probably has medical problems with his brain.
Yes, because he's suddenly closely associated with one of the two remaining candidates. He used to be more of a nobody, now he's relevant again.
It's not really a serious objection to Cruz, just a discussion of how the race played out.
Beck helped to define Cruz, at least in the minds of Cruz skeptical people. And Beck is probably has medical problems with his brain.
Posted by: Just Sayin' at March 25, 2016 05:34 PM (2kjDY)
512
Trumpkins would probably give him a thumbs up, say it's ok because The Donald can not be satisfied by one woman. They have awesome rationalization skills
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2016 05:32 PM (voOPb)
We're voting against the GOPe, not for a Pope or a Boy Scout.
No rationalization needed. Like Trump says, he can shoot a man on 5th street, and he'd still be the best tool for the job.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2016 05:32 PM (voOPb)
We're voting against the GOPe, not for a Pope or a Boy Scout.
No rationalization needed. Like Trump says, he can shoot a man on 5th street, and he'd still be the best tool for the job.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 25, 2016 05:34 PM (uURQL)
513
Prager on Thursday who is a Trump if he must said about Trump going after Heidi he's having a harder time doing that.
I'm getting even closer than I was to never
I'm getting even closer than I was to never
Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2016 05:34 PM (fizMZ)
Posted by: Meremortal, hmm at March 25, 2016 05:35 PM (3myMJ)
515
I think Ace's explanation is much more likely: it's a Rubio hit job.
---
Pro-Cruz people are going to see it as Trump's doing, and the fact that one of the women indicated by NE works for him suggests that's a reasonable first guess.
But if Rubio's pople have been pushing the sotry for two months, I wonder if maybe, NE just decided to run with the 'story' while Cruz is still sufficiently newsworthy to sell paper.
---
Pro-Cruz people are going to see it as Trump's doing, and the fact that one of the women indicated by NE works for him suggests that's a reasonable first guess.
But if Rubio's pople have been pushing the sotry for two months, I wonder if maybe, NE just decided to run with the 'story' while Cruz is still sufficiently newsworthy to sell paper.
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, apparently also non-voting democrat at March 25, 2016 05:37 PM (ZbV+0)
516
Just because your hero Rubio got shot down in flames is no reason to take it out on Ace, son. If you're that worked up and upset over a politician's loss maybe its time to take some time off and rethink your priorities and life.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 05:11 PM (39g3+)
I am and was from day 1 for Cruz. Gave him 2 grand and worked for his campaign when I could. Nice try though, "son".
Prove me wrong: What is the address of this establishment, this smoky room that exists to thwart you and all things good?
Is it news to you that a republic takes work to maintain and you don't clean up a mess by making a bigger mess?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 05:11 PM (39g3+)
I am and was from day 1 for Cruz. Gave him 2 grand and worked for his campaign when I could. Nice try though, "son".
Prove me wrong: What is the address of this establishment, this smoky room that exists to thwart you and all things good?
Is it news to you that a republic takes work to maintain and you don't clean up a mess by making a bigger mess?
Posted by: Yo, Ace at March 25, 2016 05:37 PM (ywZNz)
517
Anonymous has had a busy week, threatening Cruz and ISIS.
God damn them to Hell, if they could take ISIS out, why don't they, then?
God damn them to Hell, if they could take ISIS out, why don't they, then?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 25, 2016 05:37 PM (q1FtT)
518
There is no turning back after choosing the form of your destructor. If you chicken out then you don't get to chose.
Posted by: freaked at March 25, 2016 05:37 PM (BO/km)
519
"Suddenly, he's got a whole new segment of Trump supporters hanging on
his every word and posting it over and over again everywhere they can."
They're using Beck the same way and for the same end that some of us are convinced the Monoparty is using Trump. Willing to be wrong but see no reason to think we are.
his every word and posting it over and over again everywhere they can."
They're using Beck the same way and for the same end that some of us are convinced the Monoparty is using Trump. Willing to be wrong but see no reason to think we are.
Posted by: doomed at March 25, 2016 05:38 PM (bGLSw)
520
Reading Allahpundit NE is a Trump supporter machine with close ties too.
Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2016 05:38 PM (fizMZ)
521
Prager on Thursday who is a Trump if he must said about Trump going after Heidi he's having a harder time doing that.
I'm getting even closer than I was to never
Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2016 05:34 PM (fizMZ)
Yeah, I had kinda resigned myself to Trump getting the nomination about a month ago and thought, well at least the GOPe hates the guy, that's gotta count for something. But everyday I find myself increasingly disgusted by the guy as well. Looks like it'll be another 3rd Party vote for me this year.
I'm getting even closer than I was to never
Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2016 05:34 PM (fizMZ)
Yeah, I had kinda resigned myself to Trump getting the nomination about a month ago and thought, well at least the GOPe hates the guy, that's gotta count for something. But everyday I find myself increasingly disgusted by the guy as well. Looks like it'll be another 3rd Party vote for me this year.
Posted by: mugiwara at March 25, 2016 05:38 PM (ect26)
522
It's about hitting targets at their strengths.
Cruz - trust / infidelity
Trump - wealth / bankruptcies
Cruz - trust / infidelity
Trump - wealth / bankruptcies
Posted by: @votermom at March 25, 2016 05:38 PM (nbrY/)
523
Choose.
Posted by: freaked at March 25, 2016 05:38 PM (BO/km)
524
Enquirer scoop: A CIA-backed hooker assassinated Justice Scalia
Over on hot air. I thought something was fishy
Over on hot air. I thought something was fishy
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2016 05:39 PM (voOPb)
525
The Hacker group Anonymous claims to have evidence on Cruz also. The National Inquirer has said that neither Trump or his people had anything to do with the story. That is believable as this is NE M.O. They have brought down more than their share of politicians for the some proclivity.
Trump has a narcissistic persona. I couldn't agree more. But what I have learned about him privately is that he is a very kind, very giving, very charitable person. His kids adore him. Any billionaire with kids like his cant be all bad. Give him a chance.
https://youtu.be/dahqHQ8qkjw
Trump has a narcissistic persona. I couldn't agree more. But what I have learned about him privately is that he is a very kind, very giving, very charitable person. His kids adore him. Any billionaire with kids like his cant be all bad. Give him a chance.
https://youtu.be/dahqHQ8qkjw
Posted by: JR at March 25, 2016 05:39 PM (NPzWz)
526
I am and was from day 1 for Cruz. Gave him 2 grand and worked for his campaign when I could.
Yeah. That's the ticket. You're a life long concerned conservative Christian Republican too, right? You voted for Reagan but these days, you're not so sure about the party...
Yeah. That's the ticket. You're a life long concerned conservative Christian Republican too, right? You voted for Reagan but these days, you're not so sure about the party...
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 05:39 PM (39g3+)
527
God damn them to Hell, if they could take ISIS out, why don't they, then?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 25, 2016 05:37 PM (q1FtT)
Yeah, I read that threat too but I've already forgotten what they were going to do. Might have been hack up their communications.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 25, 2016 05:37 PM (q1FtT)
Yeah, I read that threat too but I've already forgotten what they were going to do. Might have been hack up their communications.
Posted by: Meremortal, hmm at March 25, 2016 05:40 PM (3myMJ)
528
524 Enquirer scoop: A CIA-backed hooker assassinated Justice Scalia
Over on hot air. I thought something was fishy
?
Over on hot air. I thought something was fishy
?
Posted by: donna at March 25, 2016 05:40 PM (O2RFr)
529
Hope something cheerful comes up soon
Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2016 05:40 PM (fizMZ)
530
Oh well, better that Cruz deal with this now rather than as a nominee.
Posted by: @votermom at March 25, 2016 05:40 PM (nbrY/)
531
Is there also a cat fight angle to this? Some of the women named have switched political allegiances.
I doubt that Trump would have included dirt on one of his own staffers who joined him after working for someone else.
I doubt that Trump would have included dirt on one of his own staffers who joined him after working for someone else.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 25, 2016 05:41 PM (bQxkN)
532
Earlier this week Romney spoke at a Republican affair and joked: "Trump has had several foreign wives. Which goes to prove that there are some jobs that Americans won't do."
Cruz has to know that he can't win an open convention. So who would the Repubs pick. Romney will say that he's gotten more delegates and votes than anyone -- albeit in 2012 -- and that he's the only one who can beat the Hildabeast.
Cui bono?
Cruz has to know that he can't win an open convention. So who would the Repubs pick. Romney will say that he's gotten more delegates and votes than anyone -- albeit in 2012 -- and that he's the only one who can beat the Hildabeast.
Cui bono?
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 25, 2016 05:41 PM (bQxkN)
533
Posted by: JR at March 25, 2016 05:39 PM (NPzWz)
Hell, I'm just waiting for everyone to pick a candidate. Trump or Cruz will get my vote. After that it gets iffy.
Hell, I'm just waiting for everyone to pick a candidate. Trump or Cruz will get my vote. After that it gets iffy.
Posted by: Meremortal, hmm at March 25, 2016 05:41 PM (3myMJ)
534
I just can't work out how people can be so certain about things.
100% absolute certainty Hillary loses!
100% total certainty Trump loses!
Nobody knows crap. We're all just guessing and nobody knows how this is all going to turn out. I suspect we'll look back to these days with fondness and longing by the time November rolls around.
100% absolute certainty Hillary loses!
100% total certainty Trump loses!
Nobody knows crap. We're all just guessing and nobody knows how this is all going to turn out. I suspect we'll look back to these days with fondness and longing by the time November rolls around.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 05:42 PM (39g3+)
535
We have to think more about starting anew than recovering something that's already gone. -- Ace
All I have to say is, Republic of Texas.
Okay, 1 more thing to say. Not advocating for secession or a civil war or fomenting bloodshed. I think the USA is going to break apart after the Federal Gov't. dissolves. States will group together based around ideological proclivity. For instance the NE and W Coast would most certainly lean toward a more socialist model whereas the middle states would be more laissez faire and conservative.
All I have to say is, Republic of Texas.
Okay, 1 more thing to say. Not advocating for secession or a civil war or fomenting bloodshed. I think the USA is going to break apart after the Federal Gov't. dissolves. States will group together based around ideological proclivity. For instance the NE and W Coast would most certainly lean toward a more socialist model whereas the middle states would be more laissez faire and conservative.
Posted by: CozMark at March 25, 2016 05:42 PM (CbGSW)
536
529 Hope something cheerful comes up soon
That's a nice hope. But I'm starting to wonder if even SMOD would take a pass on this place, figuring we were doing a fine job without him, and he could peddle his talents to another deserving planet.
That's a nice hope. But I'm starting to wonder if even SMOD would take a pass on this place, figuring we were doing a fine job without him, and he could peddle his talents to another deserving planet.
Posted by: DocJ at March 25, 2016 05:42 PM (5Nr9V)
537
I loved #TheThing. It was some of John Carpenter's finest work.
Posted by: Josephistan at March 25, 2016 05:43 PM (7qAYi)
538
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2016 05:39 PM (voOPb)
Probably one of Cruz's mistresses, too.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2016 05:39 PM (voOPb)
Probably one of Cruz's mistresses, too.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 25, 2016 05:43 PM (q1FtT)
539
@9: "I've been here for years, but it's starting to get where it's not fun to read this site anymore.
What an awful political season."
Think it was any more fun for the Whigs when they went tits up? The death of a political party of which one is a member is only rarely fun.
What an awful political season."
Think it was any more fun for the Whigs when they went tits up? The death of a political party of which one is a member is only rarely fun.
Posted by: FaCubeItches at March 25, 2016 05:43 PM (rznWS)
540
"There is no turning back after choosing the form of your destructor."
And to think we could have had the Sta-Puft Marshmallow Man.
Instead he's gone back to Jersey.
And to think we could have had the Sta-Puft Marshmallow Man.
Instead he's gone back to Jersey.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 25, 2016 05:43 PM (noWW6)
541
Oh well, better that Cruz deal with this now rather than as a nominee.
If he can't overcome it, he's not a very effective or strong candidate. If he can, then he's pretty impressive, in my book.
If he can't overcome it, he's not a very effective or strong candidate. If he can, then he's pretty impressive, in my book.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 05:43 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: @votermom at March 25, 2016 05:44 PM (nbrY/)
543
>>>We're voting against the GOPe, not for a Pope or a Boy Scout
Perhaps you are and have stated that up front and publicly. But I think you are in the minority of trump voters.
Perhaps you are and have stated that up front and publicly. But I think you are in the minority of trump voters.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2016 05:44 PM (voOPb)
544
ISIS relies on new media type feeds and messaging accounts to recruit, communicate, and spread fear. I'd put anonymous high on the list of guys capable of hurting that network. I don't think we could scratch it.
Posted by: Jean at March 25, 2016 05:45 PM (cXiMR)
545
Oh well, better that Cruz deal with this now rather than as a nominee.
Posted by: @votermom at March 25, 2016 05:40 PM (nbrY/)
Good point. We'll know pretty soon if there is anything to this.
Time to get ready to bring entertainment to the masses. Tonight I play country AND western music, covering the spectrum for mountain pro-drinkers. I'll probably secretly pour several shots out behind my amp before it's over.
Posted by: @votermom at March 25, 2016 05:40 PM (nbrY/)
Good point. We'll know pretty soon if there is anything to this.
Time to get ready to bring entertainment to the masses. Tonight I play country AND western music, covering the spectrum for mountain pro-drinkers. I'll probably secretly pour several shots out behind my amp before it's over.
Posted by: Meremortal, hmm at March 25, 2016 05:45 PM (3myMJ)
546
We have to think more about starting anew than recovering something that's already gone. -- Ace
Correct. There's nothing left to conserve, so the term conservative is meaningless today.
Correct. There's nothing left to conserve, so the term conservative is meaningless today.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 05:45 PM (39g3+)
547
Votermom choked on that one
Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2016 05:45 PM (fizMZ)
Posted by: @votermom at March 25, 2016 05:45 PM (nbrY/)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2016 05:45 PM (voOPb)
550
Yeah, I read that threat too but I've already forgotten what they were going to do. Might have been hack up their communications.
Posted by: Meremortal, hmm at March 25, 2016 05:40 PM (3myMJ)
That would be REALLY HELPFUL and if they can they ought to.
Posted by: Meremortal, hmm at March 25, 2016 05:40 PM (3myMJ)
That would be REALLY HELPFUL and if they can they ought to.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 25, 2016 05:45 PM (q1FtT)
551
Earlier this week Romney spoke at a Republican
affair and joked: "Trump has had several foreign wives. Which goes to
prove that there are some jobs that Americans won't do."
...
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 25, 2016 05:41 PM (bQxkN)
When did Trump attack Romney's wife?
affair and joked: "Trump has had several foreign wives. Which goes to
prove that there are some jobs that Americans won't do."
...
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 25, 2016 05:41 PM (bQxkN)
When did Trump attack Romney's wife?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 25, 2016 05:46 PM (T78UI)
552
I doubt that Trump would have included dirt on one of his own staffers who joined him after working for someone else.
---
Because either it's true and she admits it, because she's going to be asked any time she makes an appearance until the matter is 'resolved', in which case she's been put in an awful position (and merely being hounded by the question diminishes her capacity to serve as a spokesperson), or she denies it, which kind of kills the story.
---
Because either it's true and she admits it, because she's going to be asked any time she makes an appearance until the matter is 'resolved', in which case she's been put in an awful position (and merely being hounded by the question diminishes her capacity to serve as a spokesperson), or she denies it, which kind of kills the story.
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, apparently also non-voting democrat at March 25, 2016 05:46 PM (ZbV+0)
553
547 Votermom choked on that one
Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2016 05:45 PM (fizMZ)
*whistles innocently*
Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2016 05:45 PM (fizMZ)
*whistles innocently*
Posted by: @votermom at March 25, 2016 05:46 PM (nbrY/)
554
Re: National Enquirer and politics
Back in 2008 the Enquirer broke the story about John Edwards expecting a two-headed love child with his "videographer" while his wife was dying of cancer. As the Enquirer kept reporting, MSM ignored the story for months.
This was because Obama needed Edwards in the race to siphon off votes from Hillary in a three-way split. Had Edwards not hung in the race, Hillary would have dominated the early races.
Back in 2008 the Enquirer broke the story about John Edwards expecting a two-headed love child with his "videographer" while his wife was dying of cancer. As the Enquirer kept reporting, MSM ignored the story for months.
This was because Obama needed Edwards in the race to siphon off votes from Hillary in a three-way split. Had Edwards not hung in the race, Hillary would have dominated the early races.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 25, 2016 05:46 PM (bQxkN)
555
"I loved #TheThing. It was some of John Carpenter's finest work."
I can't be the only person who, upon reading that hashtag from ace, promptly muttered aloud,
"I dunno what's in there, but it's weird and pissed off, whatever it is."
I can't be the only person who, upon reading that hashtag from ace, promptly muttered aloud,
"I dunno what's in there, but it's weird and pissed off, whatever it is."
Posted by: torquewrench at March 25, 2016 05:47 PM (noWW6)
556
The Donald brags in his book about bedding multiple married women, so, IF Cruz rumor is true, the fidelity issue is a push. And don't even mention Hillary or her husband.
Posted by: USA at March 25, 2016 05:47 PM (tfM+W)
557
Ace - it seems to me that our entire political system is a diseased ethical environment. I suspect that some who run for office are hoping to make a difference but there is very little evidence of sustained honesty or goodness. Those that run for multi re-election are nothing more than than an evolving blob protoplasm with the malignant comfort of interdependent contradictions. I can tell you from experience that almost every Presidential candidate would be tossed from our Military Academies and the Marine Corp OCS programs. Lying, cheating, character flaws, are normally not tolerated. Not so much for the Commander in Chief however. Ironic. The reality is that anyone who gets to run for a high Federal or State office has a machine and money behind them. Our citizens are not getting the best and the brightest in elected government positions . Why ? Because it's a step down.
Lastly, remember what Freud said: "Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, not just surrounded by assholes" .
Lastly, remember what Freud said: "Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, not just surrounded by assholes" .
Posted by: Joseph Clark at March 25, 2016 05:47 PM (k9nOA)
558
The Monoparty wants, above all, to maintain stasis.
Trump (assuming he's for real) = Wildcard. Loose canon. Possibly uncontrollable. Risky.
Cruz = the most likely to undo stasis. The single biggest threat to stasis.
Jeb = stasis maintained.
Rubio = status maintained.
Romney = stasis maintained.
Kasich = stasis maintained.
Clinton = stasis maintained, *PLUS* the excuse (an obstructionist POTUS) to do nothing for four more years while campaigning for reelection.
Conclusion: They want Clinton more than anyone else. They want Cruz less than anyone else, and in fact will do whatever it takes to sink him.
Trump (assuming he's for real) = Wildcard. Loose canon. Possibly uncontrollable. Risky.
Cruz = the most likely to undo stasis. The single biggest threat to stasis.
Jeb = stasis maintained.
Rubio = status maintained.
Romney = stasis maintained.
Kasich = stasis maintained.
Clinton = stasis maintained, *PLUS* the excuse (an obstructionist POTUS) to do nothing for four more years while campaigning for reelection.
Conclusion: They want Clinton more than anyone else. They want Cruz less than anyone else, and in fact will do whatever it takes to sink him.
Posted by: doomed at March 25, 2016 05:48 PM (bGLSw)
559
A reporter from a newspaper saying these allegations are true IS something.
The Washington Times is not a Breitbart type outlet either. It's usually a pretty respectable outfit.
I just think it's different and troubling.
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 05:26 PM (F6Ili)
Only in the brains of the Trump addled.
The Washington Times is not a Breitbart type outlet either. It's usually a pretty respectable outfit.
I just think it's different and troubling.
Posted by: Swingline at March 25, 2016 05:26 PM (F6Ili)
Only in the brains of the Trump addled.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 25, 2016 05:49 PM (NPofj)
560
All I know is I am much more of a #NeverCankles guy than I am a #NeverTrump guy..... it's really that simple for me.
And now, on to the beer!
And now, on to the beer!
Posted by: Dirty Randy at March 25, 2016 05:49 PM (nhHPu)
561
@529 Skip
This is shameless pandering but the pet thread tomorrow afternoon will be politics free
This is shameless pandering but the pet thread tomorrow afternoon will be politics free
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 25, 2016 05:49 PM (voOPb)
562
redbanzai, frrom upthread, if you're still here, the moving to Belize idea, might want to give that careful thought. Have some expat friends who tried that. Bad stuff came down on them, and a helluva mess to fix. Not a tropical paradise for them.
Posted by: kraken at March 25, 2016 05:49 PM (sdxPm)
563
I loved #TheThing. It was some of John Carpenter's finest work.
Loved him in the Adams Family (the original)
I loved #TheThing. It was some of John Carpenter's finest work.
Loved him in the Adams Family (the original)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 25, 2016 05:50 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Infidel at March 25, 2016 05:50 PM (Z1SI2)
565
@ 525
Damn guys, Hitler's dog adored him, can't we give him a second look?
Damn guys, Hitler's dog adored him, can't we give him a second look?
Posted by: Trumplethinskin at March 25, 2016 05:53 PM (VDovR)
566
The more I think about it - people who would abandon Cruz because of infidelity scandal are not going to go to Trump.
I am going to side with those who say it's the GOP pushing this.
I am going to side with those who say it's the GOP pushing this.
Posted by: @votermom at March 25, 2016 05:54 PM (nbrY/)
567
I loved #TheThing. It was some of John Carpenter's finest work.
Posted by: Josephistan
The Donal Trump financed prequel was terrible, but not as bad as his wife beating.
Posted by: Josephistan
The Donal Trump financed prequel was terrible, but not as bad as his wife beating.
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 25, 2016 05:54 PM (hzdiH)
568
Time to get ready to bring entertainment to the
masses. Tonight I play country AND western music, covering the spectrum
for mountain pro-drinkers. I'll probably secretly pour several shots out
behind my amp before it's over.
Posted by: Meremortal, hmm
Where are you playing?
masses. Tonight I play country AND western music, covering the spectrum
for mountain pro-drinkers. I'll probably secretly pour several shots out
behind my amp before it's over.
Posted by: Meremortal, hmm
Where are you playing?
Posted by: Joe Mama at March 25, 2016 05:54 PM (Tpm5R)
569
"We have to think more about starting anew than recovering something that's already gone."
...
Ace you've said this before and I'm so glad you're saying it now. Because honestly, this is what keeps me from being overly pessimistic about this election. It's all going according to plan. Of course I'm also pretty young, so it may be a little easier for me.
...
Ace you've said this before and I'm so glad you're saying it now. Because honestly, this is what keeps me from being overly pessimistic about this election. It's all going according to plan. Of course I'm also pretty young, so it may be a little easier for me.
Posted by: connor at March 25, 2016 05:54 PM (1WcFV)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 25, 2016 05:54 PM (zOTsN)
571
This is shameless pandering but the pet thread tomorrow afternoon will be politics free
Who is your dog voting for?
This is shameless pandering but the pet thread tomorrow afternoon will be politics free
Who is your dog voting for?
Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 25, 2016 05:54 PM (imIws)
572
So when Trump and Cruz fall short, will the GOPe put up Jeb or Mitt to head the ticket with Little Marco? This is where it is going.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 25, 2016 05:55 PM (nH7hc)
573
Its Friday and I want to play happier mind games. Someone mentioned they'd like to see the libertarian party nominate Gary Johnson. Who would be your fantasy nominee and party if the GOPe came out with Ryan or Romney at a brokered convention or if Trump wins but you are turned off by him?
(BTW someone said Trump's supporters are about him in a cult like way. I don't think so. I think they are about the Sessions's platform points -short version "build the wall" and about a candidate who throws punches at the MFM and the GOPe and they are so excited by those 2 big things they don't care about anything else)
(BTW someone said Trump's supporters are about him in a cult like way. I don't think so. I think they are about the Sessions's platform points -short version "build the wall" and about a candidate who throws punches at the MFM and the GOPe and they are so excited by those 2 big things they don't care about anything else)
Posted by: Palerider at March 25, 2016 05:55 PM (dkExz)
574
Trump is a big friend of Pecker
...goes without saying, I guess.
Trump is a friend of Big Pecker
...would set SJWs' undies corkscrew tight.
Trump is a big friend of Pecker
...goes without saying, I guess.
Trump is a friend of Big Pecker
...would set SJWs' undies corkscrew tight.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot, 'Who Decides?' at March 25, 2016 05:55 PM (BK3ZS)
Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 25, 2016 05:55 PM (imIws)
576
My cat is voting for me to die so he can eat me
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 05:56 PM (39g3+)
577
I would ask anyone who thinks Cruz didn't cheat on his wife, please consider that he is a politician.
If you stop expecting politicians to be saints, it gets easier.
If you stop expecting politicians to be saints, it gets easier.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 25, 2016 05:57 PM (TOk1P)
578
Nood
Posted by: Skip at March 25, 2016 05:57 PM (fizMZ)
579
Deaf before dishonor.
Posted by: Donald Trump Can't Hear You at March 25, 2016 05:57 PM (/f6Nd)
580
Only in the brains of the Trump addled.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 25, 2016 05:49 PM (NPofj)
Overly simplistic. If the rumors are true, it benefits the GOPe more than it does Trump. Trump is already beginning to sag in the polls, and as long as he keeps acting like Trump, I believe his popularity will continue to decline.
If, on the other hand, the rumors are false, it hurts Trump because everyone will believe he's behind it. Though while it helps Cruz...at best he picks up a few more delegates that he otherwise would have lost....and still comes up short at the convention. Advantage: GOPe
Posted by: redbanzai at March 25, 2016 05:49 PM (NPofj)
Overly simplistic. If the rumors are true, it benefits the GOPe more than it does Trump. Trump is already beginning to sag in the polls, and as long as he keeps acting like Trump, I believe his popularity will continue to decline.
If, on the other hand, the rumors are false, it hurts Trump because everyone will believe he's behind it. Though while it helps Cruz...at best he picks up a few more delegates that he otherwise would have lost....and still comes up short at the convention. Advantage: GOPe
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 25, 2016 05:58 PM (0IhFx)
581
"Trump has a narcissistic persona. I couldn't agree more. But what I have learned about him privately is that he is a very kind, very giving, very charitable person."
Release those tax returns and show us his charity.
Release those tax returns and show us his charity.
Posted by: Harun at March 25, 2016 05:58 PM (UBBWX)
582
"people who would abandon Cruz because of infidelity scandal [or for most any reason] are not going to go to Trump"
Exactly the point behind all this. They have more than one way to split everybody to get the desired result.
Exactly the point behind all this. They have more than one way to split everybody to get the desired result.
Posted by: doomed at March 25, 2016 05:58 PM (bGLSw)
583
And nobody named Cruz will be nominated in a brokered convention.
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 25, 2016 05:29 PM (RcpcZ)
Ed, go read what Ace wrote again.
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 25, 2016 05:29 PM (RcpcZ)
Ed, go read what Ace wrote again.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 25, 2016 05:59 PM (NPofj)
584
the virtual Trump campaign extension National Enquirer.
So let's get this straight. When a super PAC, that by law must be "unaffiliated" with Cruz attacks Trump's wife it has nothing to do with Cruz, but when a magazine that is unrelated to Trump attacks Cruz then it's an extension of the Trump campaign?
So let's get this straight. When a super PAC, that by law must be "unaffiliated" with Cruz attacks Trump's wife it has nothing to do with Cruz, but when a magazine that is unrelated to Trump attacks Cruz then it's an extension of the Trump campaign?
Posted by: DFCtomm at March 25, 2016 05:59 PM (eLfAH)
585
The chances of Hillary Clinton becoming President are fast approaching 100%. If anyone still cares about that.
Posted by: Myself at March 25, 2016 03:59 PM (5wiU6)
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The chances of her being the nominee are fast approaching 50%. We should start caring about candidate Biden. I actually think Cruz could beat him, but he and Trump are so similar that it could go either way.
Posted by: Myself at March 25, 2016 03:59 PM (5wiU6)
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The chances of her being the nominee are fast approaching 50%. We should start caring about candidate Biden. I actually think Cruz could beat him, but he and Trump are so similar that it could go either way.
Posted by: iforgot at March 25, 2016 05:59 PM (5o5ek)
586
Clinton = stasis maintained, *PLUS* the excuse (an obstructionist POTUS) to do nothing for four more years while campaigning for reelection.
Conclusion: They want Clinton more than anyone else. They want Cruz less than anyone else, and in fact will do whatever it takes to sink him.
I think that's the calculus of the GOPe, yes. That's how they see things.
I see Clinton as not stasis but metastasis, a mushrooming and spreading of the cancer that is far worse than Obama ever was. Obama took Carter to 11... Clinton will take Obama to 33.
Conclusion: They want Clinton more than anyone else. They want Cruz less than anyone else, and in fact will do whatever it takes to sink him.
I think that's the calculus of the GOPe, yes. That's how they see things.
I see Clinton as not stasis but metastasis, a mushrooming and spreading of the cancer that is far worse than Obama ever was. Obama took Carter to 11... Clinton will take Obama to 33.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 06:01 PM (39g3+)
587
So let's get this straight. When a super PAC, that
by law must be "unaffiliated" with Cruz attacks Trump's wife it has
nothing to do with Cruz, but when a magazine that is unrelated to Trump
attacks Cruz then it's an extension of the Trump campaign?
Posted by: DFCtomm
Keep up, bro.
by law must be "unaffiliated" with Cruz attacks Trump's wife it has
nothing to do with Cruz, but when a magazine that is unrelated to Trump
attacks Cruz then it's an extension of the Trump campaign?
Posted by: DFCtomm
Keep up, bro.
Posted by: Dr S at March 25, 2016 06:01 PM (hzdiH)
588
"I'm glad your little sketchy amnesty bitch lost the race. He deserved to lose, and you-all deserve to cry your little Marco-eyes out over it."
Poetry, ace, poetry.
Poetry, ace, poetry.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 25, 2016 06:02 PM (QDnY+)
589
This is shameless pandering but the pet thread tomorrow afternoon will be politics free
Arf!
*hic*
Arf!
*hic*
Posted by: Hillary! 2016 Barking For Us at March 25, 2016 06:03 PM (8ZskC)
590
Nobody knows crap. We're all just guessing and nobody knows how this is all going to turn out. I suspect we'll look back to these days with fondness and longing by the time November rolls around.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 05:42 PM (39g3+)
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Agreed 100%. There's a different, unimaginable cataclysm with each passing day. The FBI primary still hasn't run. Once the general election is on, the solid platinum oppo research gets released. Voters from both parties are vowing to cross over, vowing to stay home, and vowing to write in their cat. Nobody knows anything.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 05:42 PM (39g3+)
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Agreed 100%. There's a different, unimaginable cataclysm with each passing day. The FBI primary still hasn't run. Once the general election is on, the solid platinum oppo research gets released. Voters from both parties are vowing to cross over, vowing to stay home, and vowing to write in their cat. Nobody knows anything.
Posted by: iforgot at March 25, 2016 06:04 PM (5o5ek)
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 25, 2016 06:04 PM (bQxkN)
592
Ace..Morons
I love this place. Maybe because I drink a lot. We just need to stay cool. Because the smart morons are getting prepared for the SMOD. Don't let politics get the best of you. It does not matter. Remember that.
I love this place. Maybe because I drink a lot. We just need to stay cool. Because the smart morons are getting prepared for the SMOD. Don't let politics get the best of you. It does not matter. Remember that.
Posted by: pro lurker at March 25, 2016 06:04 PM (dMB3r)
593
Yeah. That's the ticket. You're a life long concerned conservative Christian Republican too, right? You voted for Reagan but these days, you're not so sure about the party...
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 05:39 PM (39g3+)
I actually did vote for Reagan, (2nd term when I was 1 Ive never voted for a democrat. A nominal Christian... You have missed the whole, entire point.
When a POS like Harry Reid announces the war in Iraq is lost when we still have men in the field we are all outraged because he is going for partisan political points over common decency yet when we declare the country not worth fighting for and we should let it burn so we can have more of a say over the rubble. as if people were going to beat a path to our door to say "what do we do now"? What's the difference?
Patriots fight for the country, once it becomes acceptable to see it suffer to make some point this is what you get.
Don't like the GOP "establishment"? Join, work your way through the process and change it. Harder to do that than complain though.
Yeah. That's the ticket. You're a life long concerned conservative Christian Republican too, right? You voted for Reagan but these days, you're not so sure about the party...
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 05:39 PM (39g3+)
I actually did vote for Reagan, (2nd term when I was 1
Ive never voted for a democrat. A nominal Christian... You have missed the whole, entire point.
When a POS like Harry Reid announces the war in Iraq is lost when we still have men in the field we are all outraged because he is going for partisan political points over common decency yet when we declare the country not worth fighting for and we should let it burn so we can have more of a say over the rubble. as if people were going to beat a path to our door to say "what do we do now"? What's the difference?
Patriots fight for the country, once it becomes acceptable to see it suffer to make some point this is what you get.
Don't like the GOP "establishment"? Join, work your way through the process and change it. Harder to do that than complain though.
Posted by: Yo, Ace at March 25, 2016 06:05 PM (ywZNz)
594
I think that's the calculus of the GOPe, yes. That's how they see things.
I see Clinton as not stasis but metastasis, a mushrooming and spreading of the cancer that is far worse than Obama ever was. Obama took Carter to 11... Clinton will take Obama to 33.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 06:01 PM (39g3+)
Ok, disregard my previous comments, I don't have the time to interact with a paranoiac.
I think that's the calculus of the GOPe, yes. That's how they see things.
I see Clinton as not stasis but metastasis, a mushrooming and spreading of the cancer that is far worse than Obama ever was. Obama took Carter to 11... Clinton will take Obama to 33.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 25, 2016 06:01 PM (39g3+)
Ok, disregard my previous comments, I don't have the time to interact with a paranoiac.
Posted by: Yo, Ace at March 25, 2016 06:08 PM (ywZNz)
595
The Senate race in Texas was, shall we say, conducted extremely vigorously. It seems extremely unlikely that Cruz could have been behaving this way without having been brought up during that campaign.
Is the convention of the allegations that Cruz only turned into a cock hound after he got to DC as a Senator after a previous straight arrow lifetime? If Cruz likes the strange poontang that is attracted to powerful men why did he not avail himself of the ample supply of such women in Austin when he was Solicitor General?
Is the convention of the allegations that Cruz only turned into a cock hound after he got to DC as a Senator after a previous straight arrow lifetime? If Cruz likes the strange poontang that is attracted to powerful men why did he not avail himself of the ample supply of such women in Austin when he was Solicitor General?
Posted by: obnoxious ahole at March 25, 2016 06:08 PM (MpvuV)
Posted by: ScoggDog - Boorish Child at March 25, 2016 06:11 PM (fiGNd)
Posted by: DFCtomm at March 25, 2016 06:11 PM (eLfAH)
598
How are we ever going to beat Hillary?
Posted by: redridinghood at March 25, 2016 06:12 PM (7GQM/)
599
When I'm too narrow focused on one thing I tend to miss the obvious 'everything' around it. Good Friday reminds me once again that the answer to all that is 'wrong' is not a man. There are no political saviors. There is no white hat riding in at the last minute to 'save America.' Take a deep breath folks. America has never worked that way anyway. It is far more about you, and your response to the everyday present, than it is about a guy you don't know, who 'appears' to be responsible for things you can't control - even as your logical self knows that this doesn't hold any water. Because that guy doesn't control it either. That said, if you don't go out and vote against Clinton I hope you choke to death on kittens that crawl in your mouth to nap when you're sleeping. Because that bitch fcuking evil.
[For the record, I don't believe Ted Cruz banged a hooker much less 5 (- doesn't have that kind of cash), Donald Trump would be a remotely good President, or that Marco Rubio is purely heterosexual.]
I'm Marco Rubio and I approve this message.
[For the record, I don't believe Ted Cruz banged a hooker much less 5 (- doesn't have that kind of cash), Donald Trump would be a remotely good President, or that Marco Rubio is purely heterosexual.]
I'm Marco Rubio and I approve this message.
Posted by: Abiss at March 25, 2016 06:13 PM (UsgHM)
600
Oh, dear. I guess the Trump hangover wears off hard.
Posted by: Fair and Biased at March 25, 2016 06:17 PM (9V0rz)
601
598 How are we ever going to beat Hillary?
Posted by: redridinghood at March 25, 2016 06:12 PM (7GQM/)
Like? With sticks? Or steel rods maybe?
Posted by: redridinghood at March 25, 2016 06:12 PM (7GQM/)
Like? With sticks? Or steel rods maybe?
Posted by: Abiss at March 25, 2016 06:19 PM (UsgHM)
602
Pro lurker: threadwinner
Posted by: Knemon at March 25, 2016 06:19 PM (OSAJi)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 25, 2016 06:19 PM (zOTsN)
604
Not trying to be confrontational, but if Trump supporters are cultists and Rubio supporters are cultists, what about Cruz supporters? Are they cultists too? If not, why not?
For months I've been saying that Trump/Cruz is the best ticket we can get this year, and that while I prefer Trump, I would vote for Cruz if he got the nomination. I have also said that I don't trust either of them, for different reasons.
But over the past few weeks, well before the current flap, my estimation of Cruz has been plummeting. The first thing was his naming Neil Fucking Bush as an economic advisor. You know, the one Bush we thought had gone away forever. That was a major WTF moment for me. A few days ago I read of an association between Cruz and another man, whose name escapes me now. That set off more warning bells. I've also read that he is very arrogant and believes that he is the smartest person in the room, which probably explains why he is so unpopular in the Senate.
Now this. I think there is a good probability that these allegations are true. The National Enquirer has a pretty good track record with stories like this, and they have opened themselves up to an enormous libel suit if it is not true.
I am more and more convinced that Cruz is not the person he pretends to be, and is closer to the establishment than he seems. There are probably different rival factions within the establishment that don't get along, which could explain why the GOPe leadership hates him.
And even before the current allegations, I have never believed that he had a snowball's chance in hell of defeating Hillary in the general election. An awful lot of people find him just plain off-putting.
For months I've been saying that Trump/Cruz is the best ticket we can get this year, and that while I prefer Trump, I would vote for Cruz if he got the nomination. I have also said that I don't trust either of them, for different reasons.
But over the past few weeks, well before the current flap, my estimation of Cruz has been plummeting. The first thing was his naming Neil Fucking Bush as an economic advisor. You know, the one Bush we thought had gone away forever. That was a major WTF moment for me. A few days ago I read of an association between Cruz and another man, whose name escapes me now. That set off more warning bells. I've also read that he is very arrogant and believes that he is the smartest person in the room, which probably explains why he is so unpopular in the Senate.
Now this. I think there is a good probability that these allegations are true. The National Enquirer has a pretty good track record with stories like this, and they have opened themselves up to an enormous libel suit if it is not true.
I am more and more convinced that Cruz is not the person he pretends to be, and is closer to the establishment than he seems. There are probably different rival factions within the establishment that don't get along, which could explain why the GOPe leadership hates him.
And even before the current allegations, I have never believed that he had a snowball's chance in hell of defeating Hillary in the general election. An awful lot of people find him just plain off-putting.
Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2016 06:24 PM (sdi6R)
605
Are you V7sport from Hot air?
Posted by: DFCtomm at March 25, 2016 06:11 PM (eLfAH)
I hope not. I thought all those HotAir derps were purged from our community here.
Posted by: DFCtomm at March 25, 2016 06:11 PM (eLfAH)
I hope not. I thought all those HotAir derps were purged from our community here.
Posted by: Mimzey at March 25, 2016 06:32 PM (aRUb8)
606
587
So let's get this straight. When a super PAC, that
by law must be "unaffiliated" with Cruz attacks Trump's wife it has
nothing to do with Cruz, but when a magazine that is unrelated to Trump
attacks Cruz then it's an extension of the Trump campaign?
Posted by: DFCtomm
Ummm...it had nothing to do with Cruz. To use your term...it was "unrelated" to Cruz. It came from an anti-Trump group. So by YOUR definition, the slander being hurled at Cruz is invalid.....right?....riiight?
So let's get this straight. When a super PAC, that
by law must be "unaffiliated" with Cruz attacks Trump's wife it has
nothing to do with Cruz, but when a magazine that is unrelated to Trump
attacks Cruz then it's an extension of the Trump campaign?
Posted by: DFCtomm
Ummm...it had nothing to do with Cruz. To use your term...it was "unrelated" to Cruz. It came from an anti-Trump group. So by YOUR definition, the slander being hurled at Cruz is invalid.....right?....riiight?
Posted by: Mimzey at March 25, 2016 06:37 PM (aRUb8)
607
Who has the most to gain with this story? The GOPe. Trump will be blamed for leaking the story and will lose support...Cruz will lose support because of the content. Voila...the top two guys neither of whom will have enough delegates to get the nomination are neutralized...that way the GOP can name the person they wanted from the start. Its a win win for them.
Posted by: monique at March 25, 2016 06:37 PM (+0t2Z)
608
... exactly what is left in America circa 2016 that's actually worth conserving?
Take a long look around. With the unaided Mark One eyeball. No rose-tinted glasses allowed. See things as they actually are.
Some great Mexican bistros and Moslem falafel spots!
Take a long look around. With the unaided Mark One eyeball. No rose-tinted glasses allowed. See things as they actually are.
Some great Mexican bistros and Moslem falafel spots!
Posted by: andycanuck at March 25, 2016 06:39 PM (ioqGj)
609
That sounds very plausible, monique.
Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2016 06:43 PM (sdi6R)
610
rickl: They haven't opened themselves to a libel suit because presidential candidates never file libel suits.
I wouldn't be particularly shocked to learn Ted cheated on his wife at some point. But with five different women?
No way. Teddy wants the Presidency too badly to behave like that. If he was a Clinton level sex fiend, it would have come out in his senate race. And most negative rumors of Ted's personality paint him as a dickish uber wonk that barely undrrstands human interaction. The alpha male sex dynamo doesn'the match. Add to that that the story is so thin even Breitbart passed on it...
I wouldn't be particularly shocked to learn Ted cheated on his wife at some point. But with five different women?
No way. Teddy wants the Presidency too badly to behave like that. If he was a Clinton level sex fiend, it would have come out in his senate race. And most negative rumors of Ted's personality paint him as a dickish uber wonk that barely undrrstands human interaction. The alpha male sex dynamo doesn'the match. Add to that that the story is so thin even Breitbart passed on it...
Posted by: JT at March 25, 2016 06:55 PM (TVjOb)
611
rickl, the day Cruz and the GOPe entered into their faux bromance was the night Rubes dropped out. The rest of what you wrote is dead on. Give the bloodless Establishment this much: they win. We'll have mass migration as far as the eye can see, trade deals that have no enforcement mechanisms, and war-without-end in the Middle East if this continues to play out as it appears. Hillary will push them through, and the GOPe will flap its arms and smile internally. I came to support Trump not because I was sold he definitely would push back against those three things but because I thought he could. Cruz will not. Neither likely will win now. End of story.
Well played, GOPe, well played. The $150 Million Dollar Man may yet prove to be a wise investment.
Well played, GOPe, well played. The $150 Million Dollar Man may yet prove to be a wise investment.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 25, 2016 06:55 PM (4aDuV)
612
" A few days ago I read of an association between Cruz and another man, whose name escapes me now. That set off more warning bells. "
Great example of logical thinking there sparky
Great example of logical thinking there sparky
Posted by: Dick Nixon at March 25, 2016 06:56 PM (VQ7bK)
613
Gave him 2 grand and worked for his campaign when I could. Nice try though, "son".
Prove me wrong: What is the address of this establishment, this smoky room that exists to thwart you and all things good?
Posted by: Yo, Ace at March 25, 2016 05:37 PM (ywZNz)
Hmm. A good place to begin looking would be on the mailbox of someone who can easily drop 2K. I understand your's is just down a long, brick driveway through the gates.
Prove me wrong: What is the address of this establishment, this smoky room that exists to thwart you and all things good?
Posted by: Yo, Ace at March 25, 2016 05:37 PM (ywZNz)
Hmm. A good place to begin looking would be on the mailbox of someone who can easily drop 2K. I understand your's is just down a long, brick driveway through the gates.
Posted by: Brendan at March 25, 2016 06:57 PM (gkvx9)
614
"So let's get this straight. When a super PAC, that by law must be "unaffiliated" with Cruz attacks Trump's wife it has nothing to do with Cruz, "
Prove otherwise and you can end Cruz's political career immediately.
Prove otherwise and you can end Cruz's political career immediately.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at March 25, 2016 06:58 PM (VQ7bK)
615
"Who has the most to gain with this story? The GOPe. Trump will be blamed for leaking the story and will lose support...Cruz will lose support because of the content. Voila...the top two guys neither of whom will have enough delegates to get the nomination are neutralized..."
You think people will just shift to Kasich?
You think people will just shift to Kasich?
Posted by: Just Sayin' at March 25, 2016 07:03 PM (2kjDY)
616
@ 615: I don't think the GOPe is worried about Kasich. He doesn't have enough support or delegates to be considered a viable candidate. Plus, they will roll over him or he will roll over for them. That's the only thing that makes sense. This story doesn't help Cruz or Trump.
Posted by: monique at March 25, 2016 07:07 PM (+0t2Z)
617
Not trying to be confrontational, but if Trump supporters are cultists and Rubio supporters are cultists, what about Cruz supporters? Are they cultists too? If not, why not?
For months I've been saying that Trump/Cruz is the best ticket we can get this year, and that while I prefer Trump, I would vote for Cruz if he got the nomination. I have also said that I don't trust either of them, for different reasons.
Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2016 06:24 PM (sdi6R)
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I don't think the majority of Cruz supporters are cultists. People that are supporting Cruz are the people that realize that he is the Conservative that we worked so hard to elect, the one that would stand up for the people and not be afraid to stand up to the GOP.
And now Trump who should appreciate Cruz and should want him in his cabinet started this whole Lyin' Ted bullying, Little Marco, Pedophile Carson & his hate for Megyn Kelly. Why can't he debate Cruz on policy or electability against Hillary? Instead he has to resort to name calling and telling us how great, rich or yuuge he is.
It seems like everyday he proves what a loose cannon he is & it's really turning women off. Does he even realize he has to try to not lose the House or the Senate. Does he care? Is he really more of a Democrat? When Mexico doesn't build the wall who's he going to blame... the Republicans? I don't see him criticizing the Democrats very much and this concerns me.
I wake up turn on the news and scream- "WHAT HAVE WE DONE!"
For months I've been saying that Trump/Cruz is the best ticket we can get this year, and that while I prefer Trump, I would vote for Cruz if he got the nomination. I have also said that I don't trust either of them, for different reasons.
Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2016 06:24 PM (sdi6R)
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I don't think the majority of Cruz supporters are cultists. People that are supporting Cruz are the people that realize that he is the Conservative that we worked so hard to elect, the one that would stand up for the people and not be afraid to stand up to the GOP.
And now Trump who should appreciate Cruz and should want him in his cabinet started this whole Lyin' Ted bullying, Little Marco, Pedophile Carson & his hate for Megyn Kelly. Why can't he debate Cruz on policy or electability against Hillary? Instead he has to resort to name calling and telling us how great, rich or yuuge he is.
It seems like everyday he proves what a loose cannon he is & it's really turning women off. Does he even realize he has to try to not lose the House or the Senate. Does he care? Is he really more of a Democrat? When Mexico doesn't build the wall who's he going to blame... the Republicans? I don't see him criticizing the Democrats very much and this concerns me.
I wake up turn on the news and scream- "WHAT HAVE WE DONE!"
Posted by: redridinghood at March 25, 2016 07:08 PM (7GQM/)
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"I don't think the GOPe is worried about Kasich. He doesn't have enough support or delegates to be considered a viable candidate. Plus, they will roll over him or he will roll over for them. That's the only thing that makes sense. This story doesn't help Cruz or Trump."
But someone has to get the delegates. Either Trump or Cruz or Kasich. Even if turnout is down, delegates will still be allocated.
So if it hurts Cruz a lot and Trump a little, it helps Trump get 1237.
It would have to hurt Trump more than Cruz, or shift voters to Kasich to help the GOPe.
Unless they just want to let Trump get the nom, then make sure he looses to Hillary.
But someone has to get the delegates. Either Trump or Cruz or Kasich. Even if turnout is down, delegates will still be allocated.
So if it hurts Cruz a lot and Trump a little, it helps Trump get 1237.
It would have to hurt Trump more than Cruz, or shift voters to Kasich to help the GOPe.
Unless they just want to let Trump get the nom, then make sure he looses to Hillary.
Posted by: Just Sayin' at March 25, 2016 07:12 PM (2kjDY)
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Last month Cruz was totally unlikable. He was universally despised. Now he has had 5 women on the side? Yeah right. Puhleeze. This is why good people don't enter politics. It's ugly ugly business.
Posted by: Pepdog at March 25, 2016 07:18 PM (lFdmQ)
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No way. Teddy wants the Presidency too badly to behave like that.
Posted by: JT at March 25, 2016 06:55 PM (TVjOb)
Well, he's a United States Senator, and I thought whoring around was practically mandatory.
But seriously, power seems to be an aphrodisiac for many women, and anyone in Cruz's position probably has to beat them off with a stick. That sort of temptation is difficult to resist for any man. I get that.
But Cruz portrays himself as devoutly religious. He denies the allegations, and he bloody well better be telling the truth about that. If corroborating information surfaces, he's toast.
If the allegations are true, he could admit it and ask forgiveness. Most Christians would forgive him, but he would lose support in general, and as I said earlier, I think his support is pretty thin already.
I think he's in a no-win situation.
No way. Teddy wants the Presidency too badly to behave like that.
Posted by: JT at March 25, 2016 06:55 PM (TVjOb)
Well, he's a United States Senator, and I thought whoring around was practically mandatory.
But seriously, power seems to be an aphrodisiac for many women, and anyone in Cruz's position probably has to beat them off with a stick. That sort of temptation is difficult to resist for any man. I get that.
But Cruz portrays himself as devoutly religious. He denies the allegations, and he bloody well better be telling the truth about that. If corroborating information surfaces, he's toast.
If the allegations are true, he could admit it and ask forgiveness. Most Christians would forgive him, but he would lose support in general, and as I said earlier, I think his support is pretty thin already.
I think he's in a no-win situation.
Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2016 07:24 PM (sdi6R)
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People that are supporting Cruz are the people that realize that he is the Conservative that we worked so hard to elect, the one that would stand up for the people and not be afraid to stand up to the GOP.***
Exactly so.
Exactly so.
Posted by: Kerry Lawson at March 25, 2016 07:25 PM (o5YPJ)
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@618: After this story there is no way Cruz or Trump gets to 1237. Kasich will pick up some, but doesn't come anywhere close. Remember, the establishment has said that if no candidate gets 1237 delegates then the convention is open and the party shall nominate another candidate. That is exactly what they're making sure happens. All the more reason I think they are responsible for leaking the story.
Posted by: monique at March 25, 2016 07:31 PM (+0t2Z)
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I feel sorry for the Democrats. Is there going to be any garbage left to throw at Trump by the time he takes on Hillary?
Posted by: anonymous-9 at March 25, 2016 07:31 PM (gDfQc)
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You think people will just shift to Kasich?
Posted by: Just Sayin' at March 25, 2016 07:03 PM (2kjDY)
Kasich does seem to be improving in the polls lately.
But I'm with monique. If Trump and Cruz are denied a majority of delegates, the GOPe gets the brokered convention that they want. Then they get to pick their preferred candidate, who will certainly lose to Hillary.
But they preserve the status quo, which is what is really important to them.
You think people will just shift to Kasich?
Posted by: Just Sayin' at March 25, 2016 07:03 PM (2kjDY)
Kasich does seem to be improving in the polls lately.
But I'm with monique. If Trump and Cruz are denied a majority of delegates, the GOPe gets the brokered convention that they want. Then they get to pick their preferred candidate, who will certainly lose to Hillary.
But they preserve the status quo, which is what is really important to them.
Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2016 07:32 PM (sdi6R)
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Ummm...it had nothing to do with Cruz. To use
your term...it was "unrelated" to Cruz. It came from an anti-Trump
group. So by YOUR definition, the slander being hurled at Cruz is
invalid.....right?....riiight?
Posted by: Mimzey at March 25, 2016 06:37 PM (aRUb
You can't even get "your term" right, and I'm not even sure what your point is in the rest of that comment. However my point is that they are both "unaffiliated" to use your term. I don't think Cruz is guilty for the attack on Trump's wife, nor is Trump guilty for the attack on Cruz. The entities that produced the ad and story are responsible for their own actions.
Ummm...it had nothing to do with Cruz. To use
your term...it was "unrelated" to Cruz. It came from an anti-Trump
group. So by YOUR definition, the slander being hurled at Cruz is
invalid.....right?....riiight?
Posted by: Mimzey at March 25, 2016 06:37 PM (aRUb
You can't even get "your term" right, and I'm not even sure what your point is in the rest of that comment. However my point is that they are both "unaffiliated" to use your term. I don't think Cruz is guilty for the attack on Trump's wife, nor is Trump guilty for the attack on Cruz. The entities that produced the ad and story are responsible for their own actions.
Posted by: DFCtomm at March 25, 2016 07:33 PM (eLfAH)
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I hope not. I thought all those HotAir derps were purged from our community here.
Posted by: Mimzey at March 25, 2016 06:32 PM (aRUb
You're a Hot air derp you idgit
Posted by: Mimzey at March 25, 2016 06:32 PM (aRUb
You're a Hot air derp you idgit
Posted by: DFCtomm at March 25, 2016 07:36 PM (eLfAH)
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@625: Exactly!
Posted by: monique at March 25, 2016 07:36 PM (+0t2Z)
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#283 ***Watching Cruz go down is intensely satisfying.***
I just nose-sprayed Pepsi all over my monitor. Careful, this is a family blog, and it's a religious holiday.
I just nose-sprayed Pepsi all over my monitor. Careful, this is a family blog, and it's a religious holiday.
Posted by: anonymous-9 at March 25, 2016 07:36 PM (gDfQc)
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"18: After this story there is no way Cruz or Trump gets to 1237. Kasich will pick up some, but doesn't come anywhere close."
Doesn't make sense.
Delegates either go to Kasich, Trump or Cruz. They don't just vanish into thin air.
Trump is nearly on pace to get enough, he just needs to win a little more than 50% of what remains, with several winner take all votes.
To hurt Trump's chances of getting 1237, this story would have to give delegates to either Kasich or Cruz.
I could see it pushing a few voters from Trump to Kasich, but otherwise, it seems that it will not cost Trump delegates unless it really blows up in his face somehow.
Because it's the percentage of votes that matter, not the raw turnout.
Doesn't make sense.
Delegates either go to Kasich, Trump or Cruz. They don't just vanish into thin air.
Trump is nearly on pace to get enough, he just needs to win a little more than 50% of what remains, with several winner take all votes.
To hurt Trump's chances of getting 1237, this story would have to give delegates to either Kasich or Cruz.
I could see it pushing a few voters from Trump to Kasich, but otherwise, it seems that it will not cost Trump delegates unless it really blows up in his face somehow.
Because it's the percentage of votes that matter, not the raw turnout.
Posted by: Just Sayin' at March 25, 2016 07:39 PM (2kjDY)
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I don't know to what extent Rubio himself was involved in hatching this scandal, but I know that he was backed by Rove, the slimiest crap weasel in the business.
The "scandal" seems made-to-order: an Evangelican purist is revealed to be a 5 time adulterer, thereby destroying his main claim to credibility.
It seems like exactly the sort of thing a bitter establishment full of corrupt pols would come up with to discredit the source of their embarrassment.
That in no way exonerates Trump from his part in resurrecting the hoax.
The "scandal" seems made-to-order: an Evangelican purist is revealed to be a 5 time adulterer, thereby destroying his main claim to credibility.
It seems like exactly the sort of thing a bitter establishment full of corrupt pols would come up with to discredit the source of their embarrassment.
That in no way exonerates Trump from his part in resurrecting the hoax.
Posted by: Matt_SE at March 25, 2016 07:39 PM (ECsmS)
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LMFAO
Ace spends the last decade spreading smears on any Democrat he can and any other politician he doesn't like and suddenly he has a come to Damascus moment now he realizes his (and others like hi) decade long efforts have led to a political base that will vote for Trump
Completely and utterly laughable.
More popcorn please.
Ace spends the last decade spreading smears on any Democrat he can and any other politician he doesn't like and suddenly he has a come to Damascus moment now he realizes his (and others like hi) decade long efforts have led to a political base that will vote for Trump
Completely and utterly laughable.
More popcorn please.
Posted by: NeverCruz at March 25, 2016 07:41 PM (g2FQM)
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617
People that are supporting Cruz are the people that realize that he is the Conservative that we worked so hard to elect, the one that would stand up for the people and not be afraid to stand up to the GOP.
Posted by: redridinghood at March 25, 2016 07:08 PM (7GQM/)
Well, that's the thing. I've had serious doubts about that all along, and they've only intensified. I don't think Cruz is the man you think he is.
People that are supporting Cruz are the people that realize that he is the Conservative that we worked so hard to elect, the one that would stand up for the people and not be afraid to stand up to the GOP.
Posted by: redridinghood at March 25, 2016 07:08 PM (7GQM/)
Well, that's the thing. I've had serious doubts about that all along, and they've only intensified. I don't think Cruz is the man you think he is.
Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2016 07:42 PM (sdi6R)
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THIS.
105 Ace, I hope in a moment of clarity you can look back and see the role that you played in all this. You and Drew have, since forever ago advocated that we "let it burn". It being the GOP or the country. Whelp, it's burning because so many on "our side" are willing to put our own personal anger ahead of what's best for the United States. Electing a jackass like Trump out of spite is just the natural conclusion to what was born out of Drew M's stupid imagination as an excuse for not getting involved and helping the situation and facilitated by you.
Posted by: Yo, Ace at March 25, 2016 04:21 PM (ywZNz)
105 Ace, I hope in a moment of clarity you can look back and see the role that you played in all this. You and Drew have, since forever ago advocated that we "let it burn". It being the GOP or the country. Whelp, it's burning because so many on "our side" are willing to put our own personal anger ahead of what's best for the United States. Electing a jackass like Trump out of spite is just the natural conclusion to what was born out of Drew M's stupid imagination as an excuse for not getting involved and helping the situation and facilitated by you.
Posted by: Yo, Ace at March 25, 2016 04:21 PM (ywZNz)
Posted by: NeverCruz at March 25, 2016 07:50 PM (g2FQM)
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#632 He sure fooled us with "Heller" and "Medellin", man...
Posted by: richard mcenroe at March 25, 2016 07:52 PM (Kucy5)
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I have made this my go to site for more than a decade. Now I don't even recognize it or want to come here. Ace don't run us off because we don't all agree.
Posted by: Unclezeb at March 25, 2016 08:01 PM (05jo/)
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@629: There are only 935 delegates still up for grabs. Its still possible for Cruz and Kasich to swipe enough of them to stop Trump from reaching the magic number...some will go to Trump, but nobody gets the brass ring. Then in swoops the GOPe to save us all from ourselves.
I've enjoyed our chat. Have a good evening, and Happy Easter!
I've enjoyed our chat. Have a good evening, and Happy Easter!
Posted by: monique at March 25, 2016 08:13 PM (+0t2Z)
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A good friend of Harry Reid's told me that Roger Stone is a serial pederast. These stories have been swirling about Stone for some time.
"I believe
where there is smoke there is fire." -- Roger Stone
"I believe
where there is smoke there is fire." -- Roger Stone
Posted by: ShainS at March 25, 2016 08:18 PM (a6Ff7)
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Hmm. A good place to begin looking would be on the mailbox of someone who can easily drop 2K. I understand your's is just down a long, brick driveway through the gates.
Posted by: Brendan at March 25, 2016 06:57 PM (gkvx9)
Who said "easily"?
Hmm. A good place to begin looking would be on the mailbox of someone who can easily drop 2K. I understand your's is just down a long, brick driveway through the gates.
Posted by: Brendan at March 25, 2016 06:57 PM (gkvx9)
Who said "easily"?
Posted by: Yo, Ace at March 25, 2016 08:21 PM (ywZNz)
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Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2016 07:42 PM (sdi6R)
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Do we really know who the real Donald Trump is?
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Do we really know who the real Donald Trump is?
Posted by: redridinghood at March 25, 2016 08:24 PM (7GQM/)
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I think that guy who loaded up his law owner with explosives and proceeded to blow his leg off is running the GOP.
"Here hold my beer and watch this".
How is it in Belize?
"Here hold my beer and watch this".
How is it in Belize?
Posted by: Thegarbone at March 25, 2016 08:25 PM (9dH/8)
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Can someone tell me the genesis of calling Marco Rubio "Mario"? Is that a name he used to go by or something? It's hilarious whenever people call him "Mario".
Posted by: fatso at March 25, 2016 08:25 PM (KZbRH)
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Do we really know who the real Donald Trump is?
Posted by: redridinghood at March 25, 2016 08:24 PM (7GQM/)
I've never met the man, so no, I don't know.
Do we really know who the real Donald Trump is?
Posted by: redridinghood at March 25, 2016 08:24 PM (7GQM/)
I've never met the man, so no, I don't know.
Posted by: rickl at March 25, 2016 08:30 PM (sdi6R)
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I am with ace we were assured the a competitive race with conservative ideas we where waiting for it then Donald Trump took all the air out of the room. For the first time I will let you get Cankles because you assholes deserve her. Idiots
Posted by: drunkineastmesa at March 25, 2016 08:30 PM (pYtYB)
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The conventional conservative base has been shit on so many times by the representatives they've sent to Washington over the last seven years that Trump rises to the top now... No wonder... I stopped identifying as Republican or what the current establishment calls 'conservative' shortly after 2012. If what we've seen lately as the national debt rises and our nations prestige gutters, then I'm not 'conservative' anymore. 'Let it burn' is old news. It's on fire NOW and it's booger eater and asshole dumpster fire VS the socialists.
Posted by: AES at March 25, 2016 09:27 PM (3Q2mj)
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"Ace you were right to hold fire on this story until more came out about it. But you also didn't do the same and went full crazy linking it to Trump because of your disdain for him. I get it. But you seem to be fraught with double standards as of late."
Double standards? Yes, the entire conservative online media has gone full double standard during this election. Throw shi$ at everyone but your guy. They don't even talk about issues anymore. They think they're justified in doing this day after day, because Trump tweets things every now and then that aren't queesnbury rules enough.
Double standards? Yes, the entire conservative online media has gone full double standard during this election. Throw shi$ at everyone but your guy. They don't even talk about issues anymore. They think they're justified in doing this day after day, because Trump tweets things every now and then that aren't queesnbury rules enough.
Posted by: Kyle at March 25, 2016 09:28 PM (ImEa5)
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I am astounded at all the braying jackasses here who now threaten to inflict us all with Hilary because Teddy can't close the deal.
Guess what, we are trying to pick a candidate to run against Satan herself, and you guys are acting as if you are selecting a bride.
Man up (or woman up, or cowboy up) and recognize the danger to freedom that another 4 years of a Democrat in the White House, and nut less Republicans in Congress can inflict on us.
No matter how big, or smelly, or sloppy the shit sandwich we may have to eat, it's better than ingesting the poison presented by Hillary.
Guess what, we are trying to pick a candidate to run against Satan herself, and you guys are acting as if you are selecting a bride.
Man up (or woman up, or cowboy up) and recognize the danger to freedom that another 4 years of a Democrat in the White House, and nut less Republicans in Congress can inflict on us.
No matter how big, or smelly, or sloppy the shit sandwich we may have to eat, it's better than ingesting the poison presented by Hillary.
Posted by: Dogbert at March 25, 2016 10:19 PM (fz1Nv)
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Why do I know you would welcome something like this if it were Trump and would be pushing the story?
Posted by: Deno at March 25, 2016 11:17 PM (8rGDo)
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Rather than spend too much time here, go watch ET Williams aka the Doctor of Common Sense on YouTube and thetruthdamit channel. Give a shout out to Diamond and Silk who will probably end up paying a price for venturing into Republican territory - while the entire GOP leadership is just giving both Cruz and Trump supporters the middle finger. They had an opportunity to shut down the Democrats and bring more minorities over than ever before, yet they spend their time plotting against both of the primary leaders.
If you don't become galvanized by this I don't know what else to say.
If you don't become galvanized by this I don't know what else to say.
Posted by: Kyle P at March 25, 2016 11:37 PM (JGmJY)
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Ihave read it was an open secret thst Bush sr had a mistress. Reagan was withk. his second wife.
Posted by: Shiggz at March 26, 2016 12:06 AM (G7wcY)
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Ace let me put out another theory for all this:
1. Who put out the original ad about Trump's wife?
Liz Mair
2. Who is now trying to out the women in the NE story?
Liz Mair
3. Who is pushing for Cruz and the women to sue Trump over this?
Liz Mair
Who is a big supporter of immigration reform and the new age GOP?
Liz Mair
5. Who is a big paid shill for the GOPe?
Liz Mair
Etc...put everything together and you might have a story. She says she is not a Cruz supporter (which I believe now looking back on her past work and supporters), and her co-conspirator seems to be Rick Wilson, who I think was a Rubio supporter.
So I could make a case that a group of GOPe shills who are also big supporters of amnesty would have the most to gain from a Cruz-Trump brawl that would make them look both un-electable. Lawsuits, counter charges, etc. Plus it would break up the Trump-Cruz delegate alliance (not a Cruz-Trump alliance, just a delegate alliance) that would make sure one of them is nominated and not a outsider.
Notice also how many GOPe types are now talking about someone not running winning the nomination, like Scott Walker, a former Mair boss. She was forced to leave his campaign after she mouthed off about Iowa and her support for open borders. Not saying Walker is the guy, just saying Walker is clearly hearing this stuff from somewhere on the inside.
So where does that leave us. I now think neither Trump or Cruz started this. I think Liz Mair and Rick Wilson did. Why not? They have the most to gain by bumping off Cruz in a sex scandal (even if made up) and getting one of their wonder boys back into the nomination fight. They must know the GOPe will never let Trump win the nomination...rules changes?
Could be wrong...just a hypothesis to chew on...admit that it does sound GOPe like. Trump's style to to say Cruz scr$wed five women himself! On twitter, with a descriptive video. Does Trump ever not pass up a chance to do the story himself? Why hand it to the NE when he can claim he broke the story. Right? Just take the anti-Trump glasses off for a second. What does this sound like...Trump or Rick Wilson/Liz Mair?
1. Who put out the original ad about Trump's wife?
Liz Mair
2. Who is now trying to out the women in the NE story?
Liz Mair
3. Who is pushing for Cruz and the women to sue Trump over this?
Liz Mair
Who is a big supporter of immigration reform and the new age GOP?
Liz Mair
5. Who is a big paid shill for the GOPe?
Liz Mair
Etc...put everything together and you might have a story. She says she is not a Cruz supporter (which I believe now looking back on her past work and supporters), and her co-conspirator seems to be Rick Wilson, who I think was a Rubio supporter.
So I could make a case that a group of GOPe shills who are also big supporters of amnesty would have the most to gain from a Cruz-Trump brawl that would make them look both un-electable. Lawsuits, counter charges, etc. Plus it would break up the Trump-Cruz delegate alliance (not a Cruz-Trump alliance, just a delegate alliance) that would make sure one of them is nominated and not a outsider.
Notice also how many GOPe types are now talking about someone not running winning the nomination, like Scott Walker, a former Mair boss. She was forced to leave his campaign after she mouthed off about Iowa and her support for open borders. Not saying Walker is the guy, just saying Walker is clearly hearing this stuff from somewhere on the inside.
So where does that leave us. I now think neither Trump or Cruz started this. I think Liz Mair and Rick Wilson did. Why not? They have the most to gain by bumping off Cruz in a sex scandal (even if made up) and getting one of their wonder boys back into the nomination fight. They must know the GOPe will never let Trump win the nomination...rules changes?
Could be wrong...just a hypothesis to chew on...admit that it does sound GOPe like. Trump's style to to say Cruz scr$wed five women himself! On twitter, with a descriptive video. Does Trump ever not pass up a chance to do the story himself? Why hand it to the NE when he can claim he broke the story. Right? Just take the anti-Trump glasses off for a second. What does this sound like...Trump or Rick Wilson/Liz Mair?
Posted by: William Eaton at March 26, 2016 12:39 AM (q52Ma)
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'I don't like Donald Trump because I consider him now to be utterly without honor, a nasty narcissistic man of nothing but appetites and impulses and Really Bad Business Deals that he then claims are "great deals." '
Well, let's review, shall we?
Last time round, we had perhaps one of the more honorable men to have run for the office. The man was so devoid of vices, that when the Left came for him, all they could talk about is having his dog ride in some sort of carrier in the hood of the family car, and supposedly being mean to somebody, quite literally when he was a teenager. You couldn't even go back and ask the guy for his side, because he was deceased, so they used that fact to blame his death on Romney.
Then, after he loses (after having never really taken it to Obama), he starts opining about Global Warming, stays mostly out of the public eye (except for some weird boxing match). Now he returns to "save America" from Donald Trump by spewing the exact same stream of outright lies that were used against HIM, trying to destroy his party's front-runner, and therefore his party's chances, while hinting that he wants a do-over. With friends like that, who needs enemies?
In short, Mr Squeaky Clean was a scumbag.
But before that, we had the honorable George W Bush! Oh, wait, he snorted coke, probably went AWOL while on his National Guard service, and had been a drunk.
But at there's Ronnie Reagan. Wait a minute ... didn't I just hear that this fairy tale love affair between him and Nancy started while he still married?
"Narcissistic?" Gimme a break! You HAVE to be crazy to run for POTUS, and narcissism is just the whipped cream on top.
"Really Bad Business Deals"? Yeah, that's how you end up a billionaire, I'm sure. One of the things about Trump is that he is objectively of the most accomplished POTUS candidates in history.
So let's stop pretending that ANY of these guys are some sort of paragon of virtue without personality and character flaws. Just gimme a break.
Cruz? He's the guy I USED to think well of, since he was running as an anti-establishment guy. Now "Mr Honorable" is the establishment's bitch.
Playing DIRTY? Grow up. The establishment was a fraud, and I want the guy who can tell them to go F themselves, fight dirty, and win. You can be sure as hell that the Democrats - under the Queen of Darkness will fight as dirty as it gets! And you can be sure as hell, that every damn person in the US is going to have every single one of Hillary's (and Bill's) lies, scandals, and betrayals memorized by November.
Well, let's review, shall we?
Last time round, we had perhaps one of the more honorable men to have run for the office. The man was so devoid of vices, that when the Left came for him, all they could talk about is having his dog ride in some sort of carrier in the hood of the family car, and supposedly being mean to somebody, quite literally when he was a teenager. You couldn't even go back and ask the guy for his side, because he was deceased, so they used that fact to blame his death on Romney.
Then, after he loses (after having never really taken it to Obama), he starts opining about Global Warming, stays mostly out of the public eye (except for some weird boxing match). Now he returns to "save America" from Donald Trump by spewing the exact same stream of outright lies that were used against HIM, trying to destroy his party's front-runner, and therefore his party's chances, while hinting that he wants a do-over. With friends like that, who needs enemies?
In short, Mr Squeaky Clean was a scumbag.
But before that, we had the honorable George W Bush! Oh, wait, he snorted coke, probably went AWOL while on his National Guard service, and had been a drunk.
But at there's Ronnie Reagan. Wait a minute ... didn't I just hear that this fairy tale love affair between him and Nancy started while he still married?
"Narcissistic?" Gimme a break! You HAVE to be crazy to run for POTUS, and narcissism is just the whipped cream on top.
"Really Bad Business Deals"? Yeah, that's how you end up a billionaire, I'm sure. One of the things about Trump is that he is objectively of the most accomplished POTUS candidates in history.
So let's stop pretending that ANY of these guys are some sort of paragon of virtue without personality and character flaws. Just gimme a break.
Cruz? He's the guy I USED to think well of, since he was running as an anti-establishment guy. Now "Mr Honorable" is the establishment's bitch.
Playing DIRTY? Grow up. The establishment was a fraud, and I want the guy who can tell them to go F themselves, fight dirty, and win. You can be sure as hell that the Democrats - under the Queen of Darkness will fight as dirty as it gets! And you can be sure as hell, that every damn person in the US is going to have every single one of Hillary's (and Bill's) lies, scandals, and betrayals memorized by November.
Posted by: Optimizer at March 26, 2016 01:07 AM (/q6+P)
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Ace...
After looking at some "#TheThing" tweets you might want to ask AllahPundit about it. It seems "Erica B" gives him a tweet about "#TheThing". I don't know how to leave links here, but I got the screenshot of it. So I will just re-write it:
"7:53 AM 13 Mar 2016
@BettinaVLA @StopTrumpPAC @allahpundit we need #TheThing time is running out!"
SO why is she repeating a hashtag to someone who supposedly knows nothing about any of this. Now he writing on Hotair acting like this is all news to him. Go read his piece on Hotair. Yet this chick is tweeting him about "#TheThing" on March 13th?
"The plot thinkens"...yes...so lets see how much old AP, old boy, knew about this big Cruz story on March 13th. He is part of the stop trump crew right? He was never much of a Cruz supporter. Granted it is not enough to go on to prove anything. However, If someone tweeted me about "#TheThing" and I had no idea what they were talking about I might respond by asking them "what the hell they are talking about"...or "that was a classic movie or a crappy remake"..but then again that is just me.
After looking at some "#TheThing" tweets you might want to ask AllahPundit about it. It seems "Erica B" gives him a tweet about "#TheThing". I don't know how to leave links here, but I got the screenshot of it. So I will just re-write it:
"7:53 AM 13 Mar 2016
@BettinaVLA @StopTrumpPAC @allahpundit we need #TheThing time is running out!"
SO why is she repeating a hashtag to someone who supposedly knows nothing about any of this. Now he writing on Hotair acting like this is all news to him. Go read his piece on Hotair. Yet this chick is tweeting him about "#TheThing" on March 13th?
"The plot thinkens"...yes...so lets see how much old AP, old boy, knew about this big Cruz story on March 13th. He is part of the stop trump crew right? He was never much of a Cruz supporter. Granted it is not enough to go on to prove anything. However, If someone tweeted me about "#TheThing" and I had no idea what they were talking about I might respond by asking them "what the hell they are talking about"...or "that was a classic movie or a crappy remake"..but then again that is just me.
Posted by: William Eaton at March 26, 2016 01:40 AM (q52Ma)
653
The Melania smear mirrors the Cruz smear, and parallels down to the campaign responses
Posted by: A.G. at March 26, 2016 03:09 AM (m3zbh)
654
As a Rubio supporter I am willing to compromise on Walker, Perry or Jindal. Just not Cruz.
Posted by: Arkansas Yankee at March 26, 2016 03:11 AM (Je4OY)
655
The "Trump / Cruz" wars need to stop. We both have more in common than we have differences.
Cruz thinks the establishment is backing him? That's cute.
No, what the establishment is doing is using him to split the vote so that Trump doesn't get to the finish line. Of course, Cruz will not get to the finish line either - that's kind of the establishment plan.
Because when they walk into the convention ... and neither Trump nor Cruz has crossed said "finish line" ... the establishment will shift gears and immediately use that as justification to contest the nomination and put their own boy in there. "Thanks for your service, Mr. Cruz - but they're no longer required."
It's at that point that Cruz and Trump supporters will be begging each other for support against the establishment.
And all these fights between Trump and Cruz supporters?
Yeah - they're poisoning any potential for us to band together to STOP the establishment from doing that.
Cruz thinks the establishment is backing him? That's cute.
No, what the establishment is doing is using him to split the vote so that Trump doesn't get to the finish line. Of course, Cruz will not get to the finish line either - that's kind of the establishment plan.
Because when they walk into the convention ... and neither Trump nor Cruz has crossed said "finish line" ... the establishment will shift gears and immediately use that as justification to contest the nomination and put their own boy in there. "Thanks for your service, Mr. Cruz - but they're no longer required."
It's at that point that Cruz and Trump supporters will be begging each other for support against the establishment.
And all these fights between Trump and Cruz supporters?
Yeah - they're poisoning any potential for us to band together to STOP the establishment from doing that.
Posted by: Thor at March 26, 2016 12:39 PM (sa6+8)
656
Right, so someone who supported Rubio also peddled that story.
Which makes it Rubio's fault.
This is entirely appropriate to post after he dropped out in order to make it easier for Cruz to win the primary and save us from Trump. Entirely appropriate.
Which makes it Rubio's fault.
This is entirely appropriate to post after he dropped out in order to make it easier for Cruz to win the primary and save us from Trump. Entirely appropriate.
Posted by: Attila Girl at March 26, 2016 01:46 PM (HI1YC)
657
The thing that pisses me off about it all, is that Amanda Carpenter got dragged into this stuff.
See here please
I hope she sues the piss out of the enquirer and Rubio's allies.
See here please
I hope she sues the piss out of the enquirer and Rubio's allies.
Posted by: Charles Patrick Adkins at March 26, 2016 01:58 PM (4mBiX)
Posted by: Charles Patrick Adkins at March 26, 2016 01:59 PM (4mBiX)
Posted by: Charles Patrick Adkins at March 26, 2016 02:00 PM (4mBiX)
660
Now that Marco is out of the race, his supporters are more convened than ever that he was the only good candidate in the race, and problem the bestest conservative evah to run for president, including Reagan (I've actually seen that Reagan thing stated on other boards!)
Now that Marco is out of the race, his supporters are more convened than ever that he was the only good candidate in the race, and problem the bestest conservative evah to run for president, including Reagan (I've actually seen that Reagan thing stated on other boards!)
Posted by: Lily at March 26, 2016 06:30 PM (Qm82t)
661
do over!: his supporters are more convinced than ever that he was the only good candidate in the race, and probably the bestest conservative evah to run for president, including Reagan (I've actually seen that Reagan thing stated on other boards!)
Posted by: Lily at March 26, 2016 06:31 PM (Qm82t)
662
Little Mario's team also started the Ben Carson thing in Iowa. Then they joined in the blame game on Cruz. He was a little jerk with no resume so I don't know how supposedly smart people kept endorsing him. smh
Posted by: Abby Normal at March 27, 2016 09:02 AM (y0rni)
663
Dear Ace:
Well, we guess Cruz should have stuck to sticking it exclusively in his own wife - or perhaps he shouldn't have decided to campaign as Archangel Metatron bearing the writ of Christ on earth. A wonk can survive infidelity... surviving rank hypocrisy is a smidgen more difficult.
We've read enough to figure there is enough smoke to indicate fire(s). The fact that Rancid Rubio's minions, GOPe shills and several other meathead gaggles have been pushing the narrative, while the big conservative guns spiked the story only solidifies in our mind something decidedly unbecoming went on here.
Naturally, not being the stupid sort, we acknowledge the likelihood of Trump's surrogates exhuming these bones prematurely. (We say "prematurely" because candidate Cruz's whoring around was likely how the establishment intended to submarine the rube come November). Welcome to political bloodletting. Dredging up Special Ted's carcasses not only helps Donald politically, it's also a square punch in the mouth - retribution for Cruz's minions dragging Trump's family into the fracas.
The bitter taste of disappointment and impotent rage you feel right now Ace is the realization that our political process will not mend itself. Did you truly expect some conservative cavalier on a white charger would thunder in and sweep you free of our tyrannical government?
A nice fairy tale. A dream. But now, back in the real world, you rub the sleep from your eyes and rouse to videos, news reports, allegations and interviews of how your paragon is in actuality a serial philanderer. You not only begin to question how you were so easily duped, but why all the media outlets you trusted - Brietbart, Drudge, Red State, Hot Air - behaved just like the DemonRat Media. They certainly knew this 0 Rubio's clowns made sure of that. These people were hiding news from you. You've been betrayed by not just the political establishment, but by those who you thought were your ideological comrades.
Well, there you go - happy f*cking Easter Ace. Welcome to the wholly corrupt, Fallen United States of America. (FUSA).
Now, with nothing left but the bitter taste of betrayal, defeat and soot in your mouth, you can understand where people like us have been years. We've long understood this wicked political process will NEVER allow rectification from within. Expectations of such are fantastic lies conservatives tell themselves... to avoid dealing with the horrible ramifications. It's naught more than a coping mechanism. No... we don't really blame you - it's difficult to admit your nation is beyond salvation. It is unpleasant to ponder revolution and sedition. But here we are - and truthfully, we've been here for the entirety of our lives. America's relative prosperity has thus far done spackled over our incremental devolution to serfdom. But the crown molding is beginning to crack, and folks have noticed.
Some of us more than others.
You will never fix this system by selecting from a cornucopia of political whores, scribbling one of their names on a slip of paper, and relying on their paid minions to record it. Time and time again, you set timber upon a crumbled foundation and then scratch your brow come Spring thaw, befuddled as to why the cabin walls staved in.
No Ace. Knock it to the ground and start over. Scatter the remnants. Scourge the earth where it stood. Build anew, minding the failures of the past. Everything else is doomed to tumble - as the groundwork is fissured beyond any hope of mending. You've more than once already prescribed the true remedy - perhaps superficially... or in jest... but on a subconscious level Ace, you did understand what needs to happen - for any true redress of the people's grievances. Now, as time dwindles, you hear the dogs of war baying in the distant moors, and your are getting uncomfortable.
Sorry for your shattering of your safe space, but this was all so very predictable. You placed faith in politicians, their strumpets and in a system beyond redemption. You can sulk, crawl back into your shell or lash out verbally at those who experience taught better. Or... you can take the time you still have to prepare for what's coming. (As unpleasant and bloody as it will surely be).
We intend to slash it to pieces Ace of Spades. We have chosen our destroyer... and we will enable him to the bitter end. We will not abandon this man on the field of battle, regardless of any foible, (and as we stand before God, we do mean "ANY"). "Why!?" you petulantly snort? Because Ace... he is our blade - and our weapon is sharp, merciless, "yuuuuuge...." and accomplishing exactly what we chose it to do.
We choose Donald Trump as our destroyer - because we know better than to believe our salvation will ever come from Washington D.C. Since oblivion is all that fetid swamp can conjure, then we shall turn it's power upon itself. When the time comes, we roll the dice on whatever slithers from the ashes.
We're in the mood for a bonfire Ace. Don't look so horrified - you suggested it first. We liked the idea and decided to run with it.
Help.
It.
Burn.
(And f*ck the consequences.)
Well, we guess Cruz should have stuck to sticking it exclusively in his own wife - or perhaps he shouldn't have decided to campaign as Archangel Metatron bearing the writ of Christ on earth. A wonk can survive infidelity... surviving rank hypocrisy is a smidgen more difficult.
We've read enough to figure there is enough smoke to indicate fire(s). The fact that Rancid Rubio's minions, GOPe shills and several other meathead gaggles have been pushing the narrative, while the big conservative guns spiked the story only solidifies in our mind something decidedly unbecoming went on here.
Naturally, not being the stupid sort, we acknowledge the likelihood of Trump's surrogates exhuming these bones prematurely. (We say "prematurely" because candidate Cruz's whoring around was likely how the establishment intended to submarine the rube come November). Welcome to political bloodletting. Dredging up Special Ted's carcasses not only helps Donald politically, it's also a square punch in the mouth - retribution for Cruz's minions dragging Trump's family into the fracas.
The bitter taste of disappointment and impotent rage you feel right now Ace is the realization that our political process will not mend itself. Did you truly expect some conservative cavalier on a white charger would thunder in and sweep you free of our tyrannical government?
A nice fairy tale. A dream. But now, back in the real world, you rub the sleep from your eyes and rouse to videos, news reports, allegations and interviews of how your paragon is in actuality a serial philanderer. You not only begin to question how you were so easily duped, but why all the media outlets you trusted - Brietbart, Drudge, Red State, Hot Air - behaved just like the DemonRat Media. They certainly knew this 0 Rubio's clowns made sure of that. These people were hiding news from you. You've been betrayed by not just the political establishment, but by those who you thought were your ideological comrades.
Well, there you go - happy f*cking Easter Ace. Welcome to the wholly corrupt, Fallen United States of America. (FUSA).
Now, with nothing left but the bitter taste of betrayal, defeat and soot in your mouth, you can understand where people like us have been years. We've long understood this wicked political process will NEVER allow rectification from within. Expectations of such are fantastic lies conservatives tell themselves... to avoid dealing with the horrible ramifications. It's naught more than a coping mechanism. No... we don't really blame you - it's difficult to admit your nation is beyond salvation. It is unpleasant to ponder revolution and sedition. But here we are - and truthfully, we've been here for the entirety of our lives. America's relative prosperity has thus far done spackled over our incremental devolution to serfdom. But the crown molding is beginning to crack, and folks have noticed.
Some of us more than others.
You will never fix this system by selecting from a cornucopia of political whores, scribbling one of their names on a slip of paper, and relying on their paid minions to record it. Time and time again, you set timber upon a crumbled foundation and then scratch your brow come Spring thaw, befuddled as to why the cabin walls staved in.
No Ace. Knock it to the ground and start over. Scatter the remnants. Scourge the earth where it stood. Build anew, minding the failures of the past. Everything else is doomed to tumble - as the groundwork is fissured beyond any hope of mending. You've more than once already prescribed the true remedy - perhaps superficially... or in jest... but on a subconscious level Ace, you did understand what needs to happen - for any true redress of the people's grievances. Now, as time dwindles, you hear the dogs of war baying in the distant moors, and your are getting uncomfortable.
Sorry for your shattering of your safe space, but this was all so very predictable. You placed faith in politicians, their strumpets and in a system beyond redemption. You can sulk, crawl back into your shell or lash out verbally at those who experience taught better. Or... you can take the time you still have to prepare for what's coming. (As unpleasant and bloody as it will surely be).
We intend to slash it to pieces Ace of Spades. We have chosen our destroyer... and we will enable him to the bitter end. We will not abandon this man on the field of battle, regardless of any foible, (and as we stand before God, we do mean "ANY"). "Why!?" you petulantly snort? Because Ace... he is our blade - and our weapon is sharp, merciless, "yuuuuuge...." and accomplishing exactly what we chose it to do.
We choose Donald Trump as our destroyer - because we know better than to believe our salvation will ever come from Washington D.C. Since oblivion is all that fetid swamp can conjure, then we shall turn it's power upon itself. When the time comes, we roll the dice on whatever slithers from the ashes.
We're in the mood for a bonfire Ace. Don't look so horrified - you suggested it first. We liked the idea and decided to run with it.
Help.
It.
Burn.
(And f*ck the consequences.)
Posted by: HempRopeAndStreetlight at March 27, 2016 12:22 PM (sjppU)
664
Most globalists, elitists, neocons and warmongers despise Trump, so it's hardly surpring you do as well. Actually makes perfect sense.
Posted by: Bob Tweed at March 27, 2016 12:58 PM (XytjZ)
665
Ace, friend, this sort of thing happens in politics. If your opponent had extra-marital affairs, you use it against him. Obama did it. Clinton did it. Gingrich did it, and had it done to him. This story doesn't even tie Rubio's campaign directly to the rumors, just his allies. And, Rubio's "allies" couldn't even get it published.
No, you know who got it published? Trump, who is friends with the National Inquirer's publisher. Trump, the guy you flirted with supporting well past a reasonable point, when he had already amassed a huge delegate lead.
And, now, you're discussing the story. And, you know what? I don't know if I believe Cruz. Sure, maybe Cruz was just working with this woman he was seen with regularly at the same restaurant and hotel. Or not. I have no idea, and until I hear more details, I'll hold it out as a possibility that he did cheat. Because that's what reasonable people do.
Not that it will affect my vote. I still have to choose Cruz, the weirdo, because there's no other sane choice. But maybe don't throw a gigantic flame thrower temper tantrum every time politics happens. That's how we got Trump.
No, you know who got it published? Trump, who is friends with the National Inquirer's publisher. Trump, the guy you flirted with supporting well past a reasonable point, when he had already amassed a huge delegate lead.
And, now, you're discussing the story. And, you know what? I don't know if I believe Cruz. Sure, maybe Cruz was just working with this woman he was seen with regularly at the same restaurant and hotel. Or not. I have no idea, and until I hear more details, I'll hold it out as a possibility that he did cheat. Because that's what reasonable people do.
Not that it will affect my vote. I still have to choose Cruz, the weirdo, because there's no other sane choice. But maybe don't throw a gigantic flame thrower temper tantrum every time politics happens. That's how we got Trump.
Posted by: Gregory T Sturges at March 28, 2016 08:22 AM (KIvt1)
666
I voted for Cruz in my primary and WILL vote for the Republican in the general NO FUCKING MATTER WHO IT IS!
I will not join the Hillary-By-Proxy movement under any circumstances.
Think about what she would do to the Supreme Court. Our Congressional RINOs will give her no more resistance than they give Obama. Even Romney would not do as much damage to our already fundamentally transforming nation.
I will not join the Hillary-By-Proxy movement under any circumstances.
Think about what she would do to the Supreme Court. Our Congressional RINOs will give her no more resistance than they give Obama. Even Romney would not do as much damage to our already fundamentally transforming nation.
Posted by: MOTUS at March 28, 2016 10:19 AM (5T+/Q)
667
Oh my God! Did I really post comment #666???
Posted by: MOTUS at March 28, 2016 10:21 AM (5T+/Q)
668
This..
663
Posted by HempRopeAndStreetlight
Is not only well written,it's what needs to be done,what is happening right now-
"...Knock it to the ground and start over. Scatter the remnants. Scourge the
earth where it stood. Build anew, minding the failures of the past.
Everything else is doomed to tumble - as the groundwork is fissured
beyond any hope of mending. You've more than once already prescribed the
true remedy - perhaps superficially... or in jest... but on a
subconscious level Ace, you did understand what needs to happen - for
any true redress of the people's grievances. Now, as time dwindles, you
hear the dogs of war baying in the distant moors, and your are getting
uncomfortable...
Help.
It.
Burn.
(And f*ck the consequences.)"
663
Posted by HempRopeAndStreetlight
Is not only well written,it's what needs to be done,what is happening right now-
"...Knock it to the ground and start over. Scatter the remnants. Scourge the
earth where it stood. Build anew, minding the failures of the past.
Everything else is doomed to tumble - as the groundwork is fissured
beyond any hope of mending. You've more than once already prescribed the
true remedy - perhaps superficially... or in jest... but on a
subconscious level Ace, you did understand what needs to happen - for
any true redress of the people's grievances. Now, as time dwindles, you
hear the dogs of war baying in the distant moors, and your are getting
uncomfortable...
Help.
It.
Burn.
(And f*ck the consequences.)"
Posted by: StarvinLarry at March 28, 2016 11:08 PM (9pFc+)
669
You've completely lost your mind. Bye, Ace. Hope you find help.
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