Whither Conservative TV Shows? [OregonMuse]

This has been cross-posted at CDB's Cut. Jib. Newsletter blog.

Andrew Breitbart famously said that politics is downstream from culture. And indeed, it can be persuasively argued that we conservatives are merely spinning our wheels trying to get the right people into elective office while the education-infotainment-media complex is firmly in the grasp of the enemy. What good does it really do us (and the country) when we manage to elect some half-conservative legislator or president while a reliably progressive worldview gets continually broadcast from every TV and movie screen?

Answering that question is beyond the scope of this post. But I would like to point out that there are conservative TV shows out there, programs that have not been swallowed up in the left-wing kultursmog. There aren't very many of them, and I don't know how they managed to get past the progressive gatekeepers. There may be others, but these are the ones I am personally acquainted with:

Firefly: This cult classic made the list not for being overtly "conservative", but mainly for being "not liberal". The universe of Firefly is some other solar system with "dozens of planets and hundreds of moons". Some of these are closer than others to the "core" planets, which are under control of the "Alliance", a plus-sized, technologically-advanced and repressive system of government. The outer planets and moons have less technology, and even less law, i.e Alliance control, but subsequently greater freedom. Firefly producer Joss Whedon, a stereotypical Hollywood lefty, somehow (inadvertently?) imbued Firefly with a heavily libertarian sensibility, which may not be exactly conservative, but it definitely isn't liberal. Progressive fans of the show may be tempted to fantasize about the Alliance being an oppressive right-wing government, but that would make the "Browncoat" rebels rat bastard commie revolutionaries, and that makes no sense. The Browncoats are not interested in destroying civilization and putting a new one in its place, rather, they just want to be left alone. Their motto can best be described as "Don't Tread On Me", not "Workers of the World, Unite".

Almost every science fiction fan, to a man, bemoans the fact that Firefly was yanked after only 11 episodes, and their dreams are filled what could-have-beens. I, however, take the contrarian view that the cancellation of Firefly was A Good Thing, a blessing in disguise that helped preserve it when it was still a quality show. For it would not have continued a quality show. I believe that Joss Whedon's perverse Hollywood lefty views would have eventually seeped into Firefly the way a dead rat behind the baseboard will stink up the entire kitchen. A similar thing happened with Battlestar Galactica, as Jonah Goldberg argues in this Commentary article from 2009.

Duck Dynasty: This is a reality show about an extended family of "rednecks" in Louisiana who have built the company Duck Commander, which sells duck calls and other hunting merchandise. I put the word redneck in quotes because rednecks are stereotypically poor, dumb, lazy, and dysfunctional, but the Robertson clan is rich, smart, industrious, and very successful. So, not typical "rednecks". I'm not sure what the suits at A&E thought they would be getting when they green-lighted this show. I have heard speculation that they expected a show featuring dumb, ignorant rednecks the audience would laugh at, but instead, the audience reaction was pretty much the exact opposite. This is because the Robertsons are not dumb rednecks; they are, in fact, smart rednecks who knew what they're doing.

You get to see the Robertsons' family values in each episode. Like the one where Willie had to buy a prom dress for his daughter. He returned one because, as he explained to the store clerk, "it doesn't have enough material in it".

In real life, Phil Robertson has caused controversy because he believes that homosexuality is unnatural, perverted, and harmful, and is not shy about saying so in public. This has caused progressive crybullies to weep and and wail and gnash their teeth, but the Robertsons did not back down. So the progressive lynch mob demands for the cancellation of Duck Dynasty failed.

Every episode ends of Duck Dynasty with the entire family at dinner as grace is being said. You can't get much more conservative than that.

The Men Who Built America: This miniseries made the list because to be pro-American these days is to be conservative, and there are few TV programs I've ever seen which sing the praises of America louder than this one.

The series focus is on the industrial and financial tycoons of the early 20th century, men such Cornelius Vanderbilt, John D Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie, J. P. Morgan and Henry Ford. Now, you would expect a modern documentary about these men to automatically take the Zinn/Chomsky/commie agitator view, i.e. the only thing about the industrialists worth knowing is that they were greedy fat cats who built their empires on the backs of oppressed workers. And while this documentary does not shy away from discussing the titanic egos of the tycoons, the poor and dangerous working conditions and low wages afforded to many workers, the emphasis is on what the industrialists achieved and how it transformed The United States of America from being just another country into the most powerful nation on earth.

As the last line of the series says, "They didn't discover this modern America -- they built it."

Another great thing about this series is its kickass intro soundtrack. You can also listen to the full-length version.

Last Man Standing: Tim Allen's latest incarnation is Mike Baxter, a marketing director for a Denver-based sporting goods store who lives with his wife, a geological scientist-turned-schoolteacher, and their three grown or nearly-grown daughters. Baxter likes to think of himself as an alpha male, and he's fond of expounding his politically conservative opinions, whether his liberal wife or really liberal son-in-law want him to or not. The sniping back and forth is pretty funny, and Last Man's writers show Baxter as worthy of respect, not ridicule or contempt, and truth be told, more time is spent making the progressive son-in-law look like a P.C. dweeb than Baxter's conservative foibles.

Shark Tank: This is a reality show wherein entrepreneurs and would-be entrepreneurs seeking to obtain funding for their companies, so they come on to make a sales pitch to the "sharks", that is, a group of 5 venture capitalists who have been wildly successful at their own enterprises and have money to invest. The deals usually consist of a requests for 'X dollars for Y percent equity in my company." Sometimes all the sharks take a pass. Sometimes more than one see the profit potential and so the entrepreneur has to make a choice between 2 or more offers. It's quite interesting to watch the infighting and the counter-offers as well as the products and services being funded. One product, a plastic cover to temporarily store wet paintbrushes, so impressed Mrs. Muse that we looked up where they were sold locally and bought a few for ourselves.

Shark Tank assumes the validity and value of entrepreneurship and free-market capitalism. Winners who have been capitalized by the sharks always say how many jobs their successful companies have created and how this benefits their communities.

One of the sharks, African-American fashion CEO Daymond John, works with groups trying to teach entrepreneurship and business skills to inner city minorities. When I saw that, I thought, now that's the way to help minorities, giving them the skills they need to succeed, rather than aggravate grievances. Thus has Mr. John has done more good than all of the bellowing of Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson's silly rhyming combined.

The Last Ship: The storyline of this science fiction series concerns the crew of a USN destroyer that is in the Arctic regions when a virus breaks out and devastates the rest of the world. They're up there in the north with a virologist who had advanced warning of the outbreak and who is desperately working on a vaccine. The show is mostly well-scripted and suspenseful, but aside from that, it is one of the most overtly conservative television shows we have ever seen. For example, terrorists are shown not as sympathetic losers of life's lottery, but as psychotic thugs who should never be negotiated with, but rather shot on sight or drop ordnance on. And prayer. 3 or the episodes we've seen so far, 3 had either prayers or a strong statement of faith in God from one of the crew members. Another one showed that men and women serving in close ship quarters is basically a bad idea. And the captain is a strong, patriarchal alpha male who knows it is up to him to protect his family from harm. And for extra conservative bonus points, his XO is played by Adam Baldwin.

One of the executive producers of The Last Ship is Michael Bay, who also produced the movie about Benghazi, 13 Hours.

Blue Bloods: This drama series tells the story of the Reagans, a family whose members are all police officers of the NYPD (the daughter is an ADA). Tom Selleck is the family patriarch, who is the NYC Police Commissioner, and his father occupied the same position before he retired. The Reagans are an Irish-Catholic family, and matters of faith and religion are treated with seriousness and respect. The plot of more than one episode had someone's faith either tested or brought into conflict with the performance of job duties. The parents are strong, in control, and the kids aren't your typical worldly, cynical wise-asses. And it accomplishes all of this without being preachy.

So these are the conservatives TV shows I've found. Let me know if you've found any others that I've missed.

And, uh, Open Thread. Not that this won't eventually become an open thread. Like the bulls in Pamplona need my permission to run.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 06:02 PM

Comments

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1 TWD for one.

Better Call Saul" for another.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 05:05 PM (x3MHz)

2 One symptom of the cultural problem is how much TV people watch. Jonah Goldberg admitted to 6 hours a night in one corner post a few years ago (IIRC).

Posted by: Burton Cummings at March 19, 2016 05:05 PM (YlqSL)

3 Ward, you were pretty rough on the Beaver last night.

Posted by: June at March 19, 2016 05:06 PM (QdAXQ)

4 "Better Call Saul" is conservative? How do you figure?

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 05:07 PM (P5x6u)

5 Tried but always seemed to miss The Last Ship

Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 05:10 PM (fizMZ)

6 I didn't watch "Friday Night Lights" but I've heard that it depicted a strong marriage (the coach and wife).

Posted by: Lizzy at March 19, 2016 05:10 PM (NOIQH)

7 That makes me happy; if he watches six hours a night, then I can be a great writer someday by cutting back to five.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 19, 2016 05:11 PM (VdICR)

8 WTF, I had no idea CBD had his own blog, let alone that all y'all jumped ship to it!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 19, 2016 05:11 PM (q1FtT)

9 From this morning's apprentice thread: "Dirty Jobs"

Posted by: Lizzy at March 19, 2016 05:11 PM (NOIQH)

10 What do you call a production that takes a story renders it nigh incomprehensible and morphs into a video of the creator's masturbatory moral preening wallowing in internal self-contradiction?

A Ronald Moore Production

Posted by: sven10077 at March 19, 2016 05:13 PM (g8Hfr)

11 Been watching The Borne series on and off all afternoon, love them but leftism all the way. Not in view but in the actions in the shows.

Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 05:13 PM (fizMZ)

12 >>> Friday Night Lights" but I've heard that it depicted a strong marriage (the coach and

It's rampant with work ethic.

Posted by: fluffy at March 19, 2016 05:13 PM (2hcmo)

13 2 Posted by: Burton Cummings at March 19, 2016 05:05 PM (YlqSL)

I am an at most 3 hour a WEEK watcher b/c of what wonderful things the Hollywood left has done on their ideological jihad.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 19, 2016 05:13 PM (g8Hfr)

14 From this morning's apprentice thread: "Dirty Jobs"
Posted by: Lizzy at March 19, 2016 05:11 PM (NOIQH)

****

Yep. Was just about to post this.

Posted by: Tim in GA at March 19, 2016 05:14 PM (7UDNx)

15 >>A Ronald Moore Production

Also, a Ryan Murphy or Shonda Rimes production.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 19, 2016 05:14 PM (NOIQH)

16 11 Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 05:13 PM (fizMZ)

The Americans-a show dedicated to the idea that the Soviets were in fact the protagonists of the cold war and sadly lost.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 19, 2016 05:14 PM (g8Hfr)

17 And then there's Mike Rowe who brought a whole new common sense to television and to the notion that everyone should go to college.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 19, 2016 05:15 PM (SEXy3)

18 "Forged in Fire" seems to promote values of craftsmanship, talent and creative thinking. Not sure what they will do outside of the basic format.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 19, 2016 05:15 PM (NeFrd)

19 Extra points to Last Man Standing for having the Tim Allen character be a ham radio operator.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at March 19, 2016 05:15 PM (gUoN4)

20 Speaking of Mike Rowe, this rocks

http://bit.ly/1RWrCxN

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 19, 2016 05:16 PM (SEXy3)

21 What do you call a production that takes a story renders it nigh incomprehensible and morphs into a video of the creator's masturbatory moral preening wallowing in internal self-contradiction?

Media Matters For America?

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 05:16 PM (P5x6u)

22 9 Extra points to Last Man Standing for having the Tim Allen character be a ham radio operator.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at March 19, 2016 05:15 PM (gUoN4)

-.-.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 05:17 PM (P5x6u)

23 So Joan Goldberg wrote something once back in '09' that was pretty conservative?

What has xe written lately, since Trump?

Gell-Mann amnesia effect.

Posted by: Donnybrook at March 19, 2016 05:17 PM (YIr1F)

24 ""Better Call Saul" is conservative? How do you figure?"

The roughness of life and everyday people making their way. There's no government life-line mentioned for those characters. All on their own.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 05:19 PM (x3MHz)

25 4 Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 05:07 PM (P5x6u)

It is at worst agnostic.

I'd say it leans towards "tough reality based libertarian" OM.

Take the main characters thus far:

1) Eponymous Saul Goodman/nee Jimmy McGill-essentially a cutthroat Legal Gun For Hire retired conman... absolutely willing to give his clients the best of legal defense regardless of ethics.

2) Mike-grizzled cynical cop whose only soft area of his life is his relationship with his son's widow and his granddaughter. Willing to work on the other side of the law now without remorse because he is totally accepting that all of the system is for sale.

The principled characters do lean liberal and they are wildly ineffective because of it.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 19, 2016 05:19 PM (g8Hfr)

26 24 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 05:19 PM (x3MHz)

The show also actively looks down on people who do rely on government aid or grift the system to work in the shadows AND take aid.

The show does mock the lunatic fringes of the libertarian thought process at times but mostly respects those who cut their own path.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 19, 2016 05:20 PM (g8Hfr)

27 8 WTF, I had no idea CBD had his own blog, let alone that all y'all jumped ship to it!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 19, 2016 05:11 PM (q1FtT)

CBD is doing his best to limit his readership by not telling anyone about it.

His Cut. Jib. Newsletter blog is like a short-cut through the mountains in a fantasy novel, i.e "known to but a few."

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 05:21 PM (P5x6u)

28 The wife on Last Man Standing is less a crazy liberal and more of a ditz.

Like voting for Hillary because it's 'time for a woman.' And she gets her rhetorical ass handed to her for the vapidity.

But she's also shown to be a shooter, so...

Posted by: Dr. F at March 19, 2016 05:21 PM (cJDvr)

29 I am an at most 3 hour a WEEK watcher b/c of what wonderful things the Hollywood left has done on their ideological jihad.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 19, 2016 05:13 PM (g8Hfr)

I finally graduated to a zero hour per week watcher, stopped paying DirecTV a cent, haven't even hooked up the OTA antenna even though I got the best one on the market sitting in the garage, and canceled Netflix. Blood pressure dropped ten points at least and I think the IQ increased the same amount!

Give me a library card and the Sunday Book Thread and I'm good to go!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 05:21 PM (wYnyS)

30 21 Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 05:16 PM (P5x6u)

Touche....

of course all these extra examples proves the thesis....

Hollywood has decided their moral perfection means leaving money on the table by ignoring a large portion of its audience is "awesomesauce."

Posted by: sven10077 at March 19, 2016 05:22 PM (g8Hfr)

31 29 Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 05:21 PM (wYnyS)

I am down to Elementary and Better Call Saul since Justified died.

I very much call my shots, and yes turned back to reading as well.

If I want to pay people who hate me to spit in my face, I can drive up continental drive and hire some college kids who need the money.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 19, 2016 05:23 PM (g8Hfr)

32 Mad Men - Don Draper frequently butts heads with vacuous lefties, his boss gives Ayn Rand to employees who he sees as rising stars, and Roger Sterling is a tough-minded greatest-generation guy
"How do you sleep at night?" Village Voice reading "rebel" asks.
"On a bed made of money," Don replies.
I might add Don's defense of napalm at the height of the Viet Nam war: "Napalm was invented in 1942. The government put it in flamethrowers
against the Nazis, impact bombs against the Japanese. It was all over
Korea, I was there. And now it's in Vietnam. But the important thing is
when our boys are fighting and they need it, when America needs it, Dow
makes it and it works."
Mad Men is also anchored in the real world, where, in Thatcher's words, "the facts of life are conservative." As a business, Sterling Cooper (in its various iterations) has to recognize and reward talent and hard work -- not always perfectly, admittedly, Joan shows a real flair for account executive work early on but isn't recognized for it until season 6 I think -- but unless it does so, its competitors will.

Posted by: E.E. Knight at March 19, 2016 05:24 PM (7b4Mw)

33 As I often look up what I'm looking art learned there is another Borne movie coming out with Damon .

Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 05:25 PM (fizMZ)

34 The Walking Dead is my favorite conservative show. In fact, it's the only one I watch. I consider everything else on television trash.

Posted by: Eromero at March 19, 2016 05:25 PM (zLDYs)

35 I raised a conservative daughter. Her favorite show? Last Man Standing. She recognizes her own father in every episode, I imagine.

The Dad that doesn't stray, that stays married for three plus decades, loves his wife and children, cares about his employees, went from humble beginnings to success.

Bonus: gets a dig at Hillary or Obama every episode.

Posted by: mega machines at March 19, 2016 05:26 PM (fbovC)

36 DareDevil is conservative. LOL

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 05:27 PM (iQIUe)

37 Posted by: sven10077 at March 19, 2016 05:23 PM (g8Hfr)

I confess, I miss Raylan and Watson, and I think "Saul" could be a good show, but I've never seen it!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 05:28 PM (wYnyS)

38 A movie that sort of accidentally turned out kinda conservative was about four long-term unemployed guys are who are sick of the compassion of the social welfare system and decide to into business and succeed by providing their customers with something their competitors don't. It is called The Full Monty.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 19, 2016 05:29 PM (Nwg0u)

39 36 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 05:27 PM (iQIUe)

Daredevil seems conservative because it deals with injustice and confronting it with force.

The moral hazard it is facing this season is rather than having largely apolitical organized criminals as the opfor they are going to have a white male gun nut as the "anti-antagonist."

I will be thrilled to be wrong, and pleased if they can resist the temptation to get preachy.

I don't tune in to Daredevil to see Alan Alda in red pajamas.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 19, 2016 05:29 PM (g8Hfr)

40 I've never watched "Last Man Standing."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 05:29 PM (x3MHz)

41 It is called The Full Monty.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 19, 2016 05:29 PM (Nwg0u)

Watched that on a flight back from GB, great movie!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 05:30 PM (wYnyS)

42 The show "Billions" is interesting, because they make the US Attny character as big of a jerk as the Wall Street dude. Again and again he expresses his contempt for Wall Street people because of their profession, showing that he believes they are criminals by default.Meanwhile, the jerky billionaire stresses hard work, and has contempt for people who were given their success.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 19, 2016 05:30 PM (NOIQH)

43 Well, Frank Castle is conservative. Daredevil believes every thugs life shd be spared bc there is some good in everyone. eyeroll.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 05:30 PM (iQIUe)

44 I was a serious BSG fan from 2004 until the end. Yeah, there were times current politics crept into the show. Some of that is the fact that they were scrambling for materials because they had written themselves into a corner again. But at no point in the show did any goofy liberalism lead to anything good. Even in the confused mess that was the finale, "Daybreak Part 2."

And the actors I have met have been uniformly nice folks. Well, except Gaeta. Guess he was PMSing.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at March 19, 2016 05:31 PM (u4OEB)

45 I've never watched "Last Man Standing."

You should. It's great...

Posted by: donna at March 19, 2016 05:31 PM (/dSsq)

46 "and I think "Saul" could be a good show, "

It really is.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 05:32 PM (x3MHz)

47 The moral hazard it is facing this season is rather than having largely apolitical organized criminals as the opfor they are going to have a white male gun nut as the "anti-antagonist."

I'm halfway through and they've done a good job so far. Castle isn't the big bad of the season, and they do a good job showing him as something other than a cartoonish anti-hero/villain.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 19, 2016 05:32 PM (fC9RO)

48 Posted by: sven10077 at March 19, 2016 05:29 PM (g8Hfr)

Frank is right. Every thug he kills is an evil murderer.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 05:32 PM (iQIUe)

49 Prager was talking years ago with a guy who's father was a ad exec just like Mad Men. I remember they were not impressed with it.The guest said it really was white picket fences, a dog in the yard and a car in the garage.

(My tablet wanted it to be - in the zombie garage)

Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 05:33 PM (fizMZ)

50 43 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 05:30 PM (iQIUe)

Yeah Daredevil is a raging liberal hypocrite when looked at through that prism.

"I won't kill these criminals who will in fact murder their targets if I ever miss a savings throw b/c I am good and goshdarn after their eleventh trip to the hospital and physical therapy via my felonious assaults that violate self-defense law they may change."

//Daredevil avoiding Confession

Posted by: sven10077 at March 19, 2016 05:34 PM (g8Hfr)

51 No brainer kinda fluff, but my wife and I enjoy Castle. And NCIS, still seems to be leaning right.

Posted by: Dmac at March 19, 2016 05:34 PM (Uf5eI)

52 TWD - what to do in case of a Leftist apocalypse

Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 05:34 PM (fizMZ)

53 Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 05:13 PM (fizMZ)
Jason Bourne using a dead body for cushion while falling down a staircase is great shot in Identity. The other two sequels kinda was lost on me, car chase in Supremacy was done well, but I was especially let down with Ultimatum. But IMHO rarely is any sequel as good as the first.

Posted by: Bebe Dahl at March 19, 2016 05:35 PM (yNyJy)

54 It is called The Full Monty.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 19, 2016 05:29 PM (Nwg0u)

That's the one about the male strippers, right?

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 05:35 PM (P5x6u)

55 47 The moral hazard it is facing this season is rather than having largely apolitical organized criminals as the opfor they are going to have a white male gun nut as the "anti-antagonist."

I'm halfway through and they've done a good job so far. Castle isn't the big bad of the season, and they do a good job showing him as something other than a cartoonish anti-hero/villain.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 19, 2016 05:32 PM (fC9RO)

I finished the season. It was good. Can't wait for season 3!

Posted by: Insomniac at March 19, 2016 05:36 PM (0mRoj)

56 @52

Not saying. Just saying.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 05:36 PM (x3MHz)

57 It's more libertarian than conservative, but I'd still rank South Park as the reigning king of these shows.

Especially after last season.

Posted by: AD at March 19, 2016 05:36 PM (QWY55)

58 gold rush.

conservative? dunno. it shows self-reliance, independence, hard work and the rewards therewithal.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 19, 2016 05:36 PM (WTSFk)

59 Well, Frank Castle is conservative. Daredevil believes every thugs life shd be spared bc there is some good in everyone. eyeroll.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 05:30 PM (iQIUe)

To be fair, he's pretty staunchly catholic and that affects his attitudes. The other piece is that it brings up the interesting debate between vigilantism and the rule of law.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 19, 2016 05:36 PM (fC9RO)

60 44 Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at March 19, 2016 05:31 PM (u4OEB)

They took a show that had a moral base that looked like it was 90s San Francisco and confronted it with the necessity to embrace a slightly modified WW2 martial outlook and decided to do a hero-villain crossover swerve and were writing the cylons as the more moral force by the middle of season 3.

I would have paid 20 bucks per downloaded episode foe them to maintain the narrative voice and lack of preachiness at the right that they had until season 1.5 or so.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 19, 2016 05:36 PM (g8Hfr)

61 Is Ancient Aliens conservative?

Ancient astronaut theorists say yes.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at March 19, 2016 05:38 PM (q/y4y)

62 I forgot Longmire...although they sneak moonbattery in a lot.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 19, 2016 05:38 PM (g8Hfr)

63 You know what superhero show I didn't find conservative is 'Arrow'. I watched a few episodes when it first came out and the bad guy in every episode was some corporate Mr. Moneypants CEO. I thought, oh man, this is just a progressive's wet dream as I switched it off and found something else to watch.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 05:40 PM (P5x6u)

64 40 The first season of Last Man Standing was really good. It was the sitcom that network TV was missing. It wasn't overtly political, but it was *about* a grouchy Republican - Tim Allen - and he was much less buffoonish than his Home Improvement shtick.

So of course the studio got the vapors over its success after the first season, *fired the actress playing his oldest daughter over "creative differences"* (we can guess what those were), and hired a daughter to preach to him about Obamacare. Also, changed his wife into a liberal instead of a moderate. That's leaving aside the fact they discarded a full season of audience investment in the oldest daughter, who was a single mother.

I watched a few more episodes in 2012 that ended with Tim being femmesplained about the great benefits afforded by Our President's great policies and then quit. Basically, ABC realized they had created a show on network television that didn't Lean Forward, so they quickly corrected that.

Posted by: Funkotron at March 19, 2016 05:40 PM (PChw/)

65 Don't watch much new TV.

Old stuff like Mannix, Star Trek, Twilight Zone, Thriller, and Mission:Impossible I like in rerun.

New shows that are now old shows Everybody Loves Raymond was pretty good. So is Oak Island but I don't think they will find anything.

Of course The Carol Burnett Show rocked....because of her and.....wait for it....

Lyle Waggoner.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 19, 2016 05:40 PM (ej1L0)

66 Generally, any show that tries to become a steady voice for any type of political viewpoint turns into crap real quick. Unless your show is actually about liberals or conservatives, can the politics and entertain.

Posted by: George Lazenby at March 19, 2016 05:41 PM (ppaKI)

67 Better Call Saul is also somewhat anti-elitist. Jimmy may play loose with the rules but he works his balls off and is loyal to a fault. Meanwhile, the stuffed shirts are petty, hypocritical and disloyal, but all the while convinced that they're better than Jimmy in every way.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 19, 2016 05:41 PM (0mRoj)

68 I admit that I don't really watch much TV aside from having something going on in the background.

I don't watch movies in the theater with rare exceptions (perhaps once a year).

Posted by: The Televised Hat at March 19, 2016 05:42 PM (vBeA5)

69 "I finally graduated to a zero hour per week watcher, stopped paying
DirecTV a cent, haven't even hooked up the OTA antenna even though I got
the best one on the market sitting in the garage, and canceled Netflix.
Blood pressure dropped ten points at least and I think the IQ
increased the same amount!"

This.

Breaking the Hollyweird habit entirely was a massive inflection point in my life. For the better.

Whenever I bring that up, odds are that I'll have someone denounce me as a "cultural rejectionist" or some such thing. Which leaves me wondering just WTF happened to conservatism that such Maoist-sounding accusations are not considered strange to the ear of those voicing them.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 19, 2016 05:42 PM (noWW6)

70 ...oh, and one one group of miners is religious and another has subtly anti-gov quips posted in their camp. i expect all of them disdain govt handouts or interference but they are all proud of ecological stewardship.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 19, 2016 05:42 PM (WTSFk)

71 Project Runway is a Conservative show in some ways.

Hard work plus talent plus drive plus more hard work can bring success.

Sometimes you lose and all that means is you pick up the pieces and try again.

Posted by: eman at March 19, 2016 05:43 PM (MQEz6)

72 You know what superhero show I didn't find conservative is 'Arrow'. I watched a few episodes when it first came out and the bad guy in every episode was some corporate Mr. Moneypants CEO. I thought, oh man, this is just a progressive's wet dream as I switched it off and found something else to watch.
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 05:40 PM (P5x6u)

The Green Arrow was designed as a progressive superhero from the start, so it makes sense.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 19, 2016 05:44 PM (fC9RO)

73
As I have said many times, my favorite show is The Night Manager. However, I am really worried about Jed. Evil Hugh Laurie is going to cut her up and she is so purdy.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 05:45 PM (iQIUe)

74 Better Call Saul is also somewhat anti-elitist. Jimmy may play loose with the rules but he works his balls off and is loyal to a fault. Meanwhile, the stuffed shirts are petty, hypocritical and disloyal, but all the while convinced that they're better than Jimmy in every way/

I've said it before and I'll say it again. It's also, FWIW, the most accurate lawyer show ever made.

Posted by: AD at March 19, 2016 05:45 PM (QWY55)

75 "but all the while convinced that they're better than Jimmy in every way."

Jimmy, and then later Walt, etc. are free market sharks. They aren't scamming the government or grifting.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 05:46 PM (x3MHz)

76 Deutschland 1983. Shows how paranoid and delusional the "Osties" were in that time. Season 2 coming up.

Posted by: Joe Bar at March 19, 2016 05:46 PM (/NPnQ)

77 That's the one about the male strippers, right?

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Right.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 19, 2016 05:46 PM (Nwg0u)

78 Just went through a link to Competitive Enterprise Institute. Tonight from 8:30- 9:30 in your own time zone is a counter to the nature earth hour were leftists bemoan human intervention on the planet.
From the site
Please celebrate human achievement hour by sharing your favorite human achievement or innovation that makes your life easier!

Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 05:47 PM (fizMZ)

79 I read that Steve Bauer (conservative) is still with his 39 years younger than him girlfriend (conservative) after 2 years.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 05:49 PM (iQIUe)

80 Bob's Burgers

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 19, 2016 05:51 PM (SEXy3)

81 No longer making new episodes, but still playing is King of the Hill

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 19, 2016 05:51 PM (SEXy3)

82 Yesterday I realized I had forgotten I have a TV. Almost-mister asked me if I was watching the NCAA tournament. I went looking for the remote but I realized I must have put it down after the Super Bowl but I couldn't remember where. I found it this morning but then I forgot to turn the TV on till a couple of hours ago. I think Wisconsin played yesterday and won. I would have liked to watch that. I suppose they'll play tomorrow. I'll watch it if I remember. My brain could be used for a colander.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 19, 2016 05:52 PM (dFi94)

83 Was a Simpson fan for first 20 years or so but stopped a number of years ago. Never got into King of the Hill

Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 05:53 PM (fizMZ)

84 And let me bring up again one way that conservatives could cleverly monkeywrench the entertainment industry: force the liberals in charge to run their business according to their own stated ideals.

Hollyweird's actors and producers overwhelmingly hate the Second Amendment and wish for its repeal. They lavishly fund anti-gun-rights political candidates all the time.

They do this while constantly producing "entertainment" filled with gun use, because audiences like the adrenaline thrill of muzzle blasts and bodies hitting the floor.

Make them eat their own shit sandwich. Use the ratings system, which has been in place for decades and is a legally accepted regulatory model. Everyone understands the G, PG, PG-13, R, X arrangement. Expand it.

New rating: FV-18, for Firearms Violence. Someone shoots a gun? Even a hero in a good cause? Sorry, impressionable young minds must be protected from such pernicious influences. If it saves only one life, et cetera. FV-18, no admission under 18 even with an elder allowing it.

This would be the million pound shithammer of doom for Hollyweird profits, and it would blow a giant hole below the waterline in the financing system of the institutional left, to whom a whole lot of those profits end up being directed.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 19, 2016 05:53 PM (noWW6)

85 "London has Fallen" was unapologetic in it's treatment of terrorists. I don't recall them ever identifying the bad guy's religion, but he was Pakistani (IIRC?) and they had no patience for his whining about how US actions were responsible for his arms business and later, his thirst for revenge.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 19, 2016 05:53 PM (NOIQH)

86 In real life, Phil Robertson has caused controversy because he believes
that homosexuality is unnatural, perverted, and harmful, and is not shy
about saying so in public. This has caused progressive crybullies to
weep and and wail and gnash their teeth, but the Robertsons did not back
down. So the progressive lynch mob demands for the cancellation of Duck Dynasty failed.

Important lesson here.

Posted by: Mortimer at March 19, 2016 05:54 PM (7wqb3)

87 Heh.

Except for RARE sporting events, and cartoons with kids, I don't watch ANY TV at all, and haven't for over 10 years.

Don't feel like I've missed anything, either.

Posted by: looking closely at March 19, 2016 05:54 PM (hoiM7)

88 I watch the football and some of the debates. I'll go to YouTube for old movies, t.v. shows. That's it. I am a reader of books most of all.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 19, 2016 05:54 PM (CFc5L)

89 Just went through a link to Competitive Enterprise Institute. Tonight from 8:30- 9:30 in your own time zone is a counter to the nature earth hour were leftists bemoan human intervention on the planet.
From the site
Please celebrate human achievement hour by sharing your favorite human achievement or innovation that makes your life easier!

Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 05:47 PM (fizMZ)

Turn on all your lights, especially outdoor ones. Run your self-cleaning oven. Do a load of laundry. Conspicuously use more electricity than you normally would over that time period.

Wins two ways: First, if some tree-hugging dimwit rags on you about it, you can laugh at him and say, "I'm celebrating Human Achievement Hour, now get off my lawn. Second, if enough people do this, it keeps aggregate demand up, thereby negating the impact of the treehuggers' foolish "Earth Hour". Last year or two, in Calgary, "Earth Hour" actually showed an increase in aggregate demand, not a decrease. Tree huggers had sadz.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 19, 2016 05:54 PM (/i7Ua)

90 #86

Well, they had the "power" because their program was such a hit. Cancelling it would have been a gigantic loss of money to the producers and network.

If it were a low-ratings show, they probably would have just yanked the thing off the air.

Posted by: looking closely at March 19, 2016 05:56 PM (hoiM7)

91 Of course The Carol Burnett Show rocked....because of her and.....wait for it....

Lyle Waggoner.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 19, 2016 05:40 PM (ej1L0)
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Carol Burnett was just flat-out funny. I was watching a clip of one of her shows just this afternoon. Her guest was Karen Carpenter. Voice of an angel.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 19, 2016 05:56 PM (dFi94)

92 "The Middle" is a great family sitcom of people who are lower middle class and live in middle America. Really funny, and even though the kids bicker with each other, they also really love each other.

Also "The Americans" is very pro-America. The lefties who watch the show root for the Russian spies who pretend to be Americans, but I root for the good guys. The show delves into the soullessness of the Soviet system, their hatred of religion (the spy couple's daughter has become a born-again Christian), the idea of being a free citizen as opposed to being owned by the State (Russia believes that any citizen or offspring of a citizen should be a dutiful drone of theirs, to be done with as they see fit), and the Russians' fear of Reagan. The season finale for Season 3 was particularly effective, with Reagan's speech about the evil empire playing in the background. For me, this is a must watch show; I only wish they did more than 13 episodes per season.

Posted by: elaine at March 19, 2016 05:57 PM (Y0Piu)

93 I just "found" Last Man Standing. REALLY like that show. A lot to recommend it.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 19, 2016 05:57 PM (U+nHb)

94 "FWIW, the most accurate lawyer show ever made."

I believe that. No offense to any here.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 05:58 PM (x3MHz)

95 Firefly is often mentioned in these discussions. But Buffy was just a series of cautionary tales for teenagers that is pretty conservative. Plus girls kicking ass before it was all the rage to do so.

Posted by: Beth M at March 19, 2016 05:58 PM (kiy9d)

96 I'll have to check out London Has Fallen soon. Maybe tomorrow (it was too cold to do any walking today).

Meantime I'm downloading "Grim Dawn". Haven't played many recent games in awhile and I heard it was good.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 19, 2016 05:58 PM (6FqZa)

97 It would be nice if there was a truly conservative news show. Or is there? I've never tried NewsMax. Some of the horde say FBN is close or closer than Fox. I got nothing for TV shows, I don't watch much that isn't reruns because I get to choose my work hours and I work thru the prime time television hours. Quite a lot of movies or shows that I did not catch the bias when my younger self first watched them are teeth grinders now. ie. Lethal Weapon.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 19, 2016 05:59 PM (9s/uQ)

98 I love The Middle and the Goldbergs. They must do well ratings wise and say under the radar to be on this long. I thin the actress who plays the daughter in The Middle has the potential to be a comic genius. She seems fearless in her acting.

Posted by: Beth M at March 19, 2016 06:00 PM (kiy9d)

99 I'm watching Daredevil season two with the woman. No idea if it's conservative but it's damn good.

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at March 19, 2016 06:01 PM (R5HRU)

100 Vast majority of the reviews of London Falling are bad, but the problem with the film that they cite is its politics. Muslim terrorists are bad, the west is good

That is literally their complaint with the film

Posted by: ThunderB at March 19, 2016 06:02 PM (zOTsN)

101 "FWIW, the most accurate lawyer show ever made."

I believe that. No offense to any here.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 05:58 PM (x3MHz)

Trust me, I don't mean that as an insult. Now if someone said that about Suits...

Posted by: AD at March 19, 2016 06:02 PM (QWY55)

102 Pixar's "The Incredible' s " was an amazingly conservative film. Why has it took so long foe the sequel? They may have be shocked at what they made. The villains may be climate deniers this time.

Posted by: deepred at March 19, 2016 06:04 PM (xv5cf)

103 btw: one of my complaints about gold rush is that they don't go into any detail on the financials. one miner observed that profit margins are 10-20%. they have a dozen crew making say $30-60,000 (?) + shares (?), high fuel costs ($10/hr per vehicle ?), insurance, taxes, equipment rentals, food, etc. and yeah. they mined 3 million ounces worth $3.5 million or so and it looks big but they clear what $300-500 thousand? i guess so. it's interesting.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 19, 2016 06:05 PM (WTSFk)

104 The thing that REALLY galls them about London Falling is that the director is Iranian born, raised in Sweden. Previous director quit

Posted by: ThunderB at March 19, 2016 06:06 PM (zOTsN)

105 The fun part of these negative reviews for LHF is that its director is an Iranian himself (living in Sweden), probably of Iraqi Shi'a descent. Babak Najafi.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 19, 2016 06:06 PM (6FqZa)

106 Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 19, 2016 05:56 PM (dFi94)

Maybe my memories are screwed up, but as I remember it, most of those TV comedies were just funny in a wry way. No preaching about how someone with the wrong point of view is evil, and self-deprecating humor for the most part. Easy to laugh at!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 06:07 PM (wYnyS)

107 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 19, 2016 05:54 PM (/i7Ua)

A few years ago the Las Vegas strip did the "lights out" thing for Earth Day (they probably still do). The very next week they, in honor of some charity I can't remember, "lit up" the strip for the night a good deal than ordinary. No one in the media batted an eye over this incongruity.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 19, 2016 06:07 PM (CFc5L)

108 OM, thanks for the review.

Posted by: Ralph at March 19, 2016 06:07 PM (B1ik8)

109 I would not worry too much about liberal TV. The public is wise to the slant of almost all of the crap on TV now. I linked to an article about a TV symposium out in LA this past week where a viewing expert warmed TV executives that viewership is down across the board. And advertisers are footing higher and higher bills for those fewer and fewer viewers.

This is unsustainable in the long run. The golden age of TV is long gone. No more Gunsmoke, no more Ed Sullevan Variety shows. Just a lot of crap.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 19, 2016 06:07 PM (t2KH5)

110 It's almost as if Najafi knows what the eff he's talking about.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 19, 2016 06:07 PM (6FqZa)

111 Important lesson here.
Posted by: Mortimer at March 19, 2016 05:54 PM (7wqb3)

True. But also what helped was (a) DD was the top-rated show and (b) the Robertsons don't really need it, if the lynching had succeeded and the show was thrown under the bus, they have enough income from their other businesses that they would not suffer from any effects of the loss.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 06:07 PM (P5x6u)

112 I just finished season 1 of "Colony". Lots of cool stuff going on.

Sort of neutral to libertarian politically. Plenty of backstabbing collaborationists vying for favoritism from the alien invaders and tough decisions made by main characters regarding killing and death for the higher cause.

The invisible unseen alien overlords enforcing their rule with armed drones is super-creepy as is the Wall that fences in the LA area residents.

Language and sexually suggestive scenes warning.

Posted by: Mortimer at March 19, 2016 06:08 PM (7wqb3)

113 I linked to an article about a TV symposium out in LA this past week where a viewing expert warmed TV executives that viewership is down across the board.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 19, 2016 06:07 PM (t2KH5)

Dang, I missed that one. Do you still have the link handy?

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 06:09 PM (P5x6u)

114 Maybe my memories are screwed up, but as I remember it, most of those TV comedies were just funny in a wry way. No preaching about how someone with the wrong point of view is evil, and self-deprecating humor for the most part. Easy to laugh at!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 06:07 PM (wYnyS)

And if anyone would remember seeing Jack Benny live, it would be Hrothgar.

Jus sayin'

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:09 PM (V+kmg)

115 Likely at least half of the people who made the Soviet Union what it was wore numbers. What do Progressives think of that

Posted by: deepred at March 19, 2016 06:10 PM (xv5cf)

116 And if anyone would remember seeing Jack Benny live, it would be Hrothgar.

Jus sayin'

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:09 PM (V+kmg)

I'm thinking, I'm thinking!

How are you my friend? I hope all is well with your and yours!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 06:11 PM (wYnyS)

117 3,000 ounces not 3 million

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 19, 2016 06:11 PM (WTSFk)

118 112 I just finished season 1 of "Colony"...

Language and sexually suggestive scenes warning.
Posted by: Mortimer at March 19, 2016 06:08 PM (7wqb3)

Yeah, I like Colony, too. And there's been what, only 2 or 3 suggestive scenes, so I don't think that's too bad.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 06:12 PM (P5x6u)

119 Bannion taking a smoke break in the alley outside the Klassy Kat, I see.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 19, 2016 06:12 PM (jR7Wy)

120 True. But also what helped was (a) DD was the top-rated show and (b) the
Robertsons don't really need it, if the lynching had succeeded and the
show was thrown under the bus, they have enough income from their other
businesses that they would not suffer from any effects of the loss.

And you , OM point out another important lesson: "Be rich enough not to care."

Insert your own definition of rich here.

Great point! : )

Posted by: Mortimer at March 19, 2016 06:12 PM (7wqb3)

121 3,000 ounces not 3 million

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 19, 2016 06:11 PM (WTSFk)

Approximately $3 mil!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 06:12 PM (wYnyS)

122 I think the conservative bent that people see in Firefly was the libertarian influence of Tim Minear (X-Files, Lois and Clark) who wrote or produced a lot of those episodes. OM is right... Whedon would have spoiled it somehow.

Posted by: Gem at March 19, 2016 06:14 PM (c+gwp)

123
Good seeing you post a bit, Bannion.

Trust all is well with you?

Posted by: irongrampa at March 19, 2016 06:14 PM (P/8aq)

124 I appreciate your concern about where "Firefly" might have ended up, but consider that its follow-on film "Serenity" was also strongly libertarian -- in some cases, even more overtly so.

By coincidence, I just got in the mail today a white hoodie with the following excerpt of the "Firefly" theme song lyrics:

Take my love, take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care, I'm still free
You can't take the sky from me.

Nope. You can't. ..bruce..

Posted by: Fritzworth at March 19, 2016 06:14 PM (B92Ag)

125 Likely at least half of the people who made the Soviet Union what it was wore numbers. What do Progressives think of that

Posted by: deepred at March 19, 2016 06:10 PM (xv5cf)

Serious you guys, having a number instead of a name is so much more efficient!

Posted by: Zombie Herman Hollerith at March 19, 2016 06:15 PM (wYnyS)

126 The libertarian sensibility of Firefly came from Tim Minear, who worked with Whedon on a number of projects.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 19, 2016 06:16 PM (nFdGS)

127 Add Diners, Drive-ins & Dives to this list. While it is, on the surface a show about food, it is actually a celebration of entrepreneurship, a commitment to quality and celebration of the individual.

Sure, Guy Fieri has a personality that can be wearing, but he deserves big-time credit for the love and unparalleled promotion he gives to the people who dedicate their lives to cooking for other Americans.

http://www.breitbart.com/blog/2013/04/09/in-defense-of-guy-fieri/

Posted by: VideoSavant at March 19, 2016 06:18 PM (M9ra0)

128 113 Dang, I missed that one. Do you still have the link handy?

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 06:09 PM (P5x6u)

Nah, I don't save those links but it will be during the EMT. Maybe I can find it again, I'll look.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 19, 2016 06:18 PM (t2KH5)

129 Tim Minear apparently wrote a script for The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Would love to see that on the big screen. Or the small, since television is now a better venue for science fiction.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 19, 2016 06:19 PM (jR7Wy)

130 there's been what, only 2 or 3 suggestive scenes, so I don't think that's too bad.

Yes you are right. I just always have this image of me making a recommendation to watch something and someone invites the grandkids onto the sofa to watch this cool new show and the little squirts vocabulary gets enhanced and he goes all "M for Mature" in front of mama and I am banned for contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

I may be overthinking this...

Posted by: Mortimer at March 19, 2016 06:19 PM (7wqb3)

131 $3 million less 15-20% to the claim owner, another $500,000 (?) in wages & shares +, huge fuel costs they all complain about (1/2 million ?) then food, insurance, rentals, fees and taxes and yeah, that 3 million nets out maybe 300,000. i guess...

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 19, 2016 06:20 PM (WTSFk)

132 ... $500,000... it's probably more.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 19, 2016 06:21 PM (WTSFk)

133 The Reivers will eat your face! They're Scottish!!!!1!!!!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 06:23 PM (iQIUe)

134 I just always have this image of me making a
recommendation to watch something and someone invites the grandkids onto
the sofa to watch this cool new show and the little squirts vocabulary
gets enhanced and he goes all "M for Mature" in front of mama and I am
banned for contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

I may be overthinking this...

Posted by: Mortimer at March 19, 2016 06:19 PM (7wqb3)
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I only let my grandkids watch Jake and the Neverland Pirates, The Cat in the Hat, and Curious George. Once we ventured into the perilous waters of Tom and Jerry but my daughter put a stop to that right quick. (Sometimes when she's not looking I let them watch an episode anyway, and feed them gummy worms.)

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 19, 2016 06:23 PM (dFi94)

135 Gateway Pundit- Greenville S.C. policeman Alan Lee Jacobs shot to death by 17 yrs old gang member during a pursuit Friday. Shooter killed himself. Officer Jacobs leaves a wife 2 boys and a baby girl on the way.
Prayers be with his family.

Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 06:23 PM (fizMZ)

136 ... dunno... they won't say... bastards.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 19, 2016 06:23 PM (WTSFk)

137 32 Mad Men...

Posted by: E.E. Knight at March 19, 2016 05:24 PM (7b4Mw)

You are wildly misreading Mad Men. Matthew Weiner made it pretty clear that the show is a celebration of the dispossession of the white, conservative male American.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 19, 2016 06:24 PM (nFdGS)

138 How are you my friend? I hope all is well with your and yours!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 06:11 PM (wYnyS)

I am well, kind Sir. I hope you are the same.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:24 PM (V+kmg)

139 I only let my grandkids watch Jake and the Neverland Pirates, The Cat in the Hat, and Curious George. Once we ventured into the perilous waters of Tom and Jerry but my daughter put a stop to that right quick. (Sometimes when she's not looking I let them watch an episode anyway, and feed them gummy worms.)
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 19, 2016 06:23 PM (dFi94)

The sad thing is that grammie winger's grandkid is 47 years old.

Posted by: StrawMan at March 19, 2016 06:24 PM (lidp8)

140 So the thug shot himself?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 06:24 PM (iQIUe)

141 I've basically stopped watching TV. Some NCIS, mostly reruns. the occasional movie, Dr. Who... that's about it. Sorry commercial advertisers.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at March 19, 2016 06:25 PM (Kucy5)

142 Officer Jacobs leaves a wife 2 boys and a baby girl on the way.

Prayers be with his family.

Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 06:23 PM (fizMZ)
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Dear Lord, that's horrible.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 19, 2016 06:25 PM (dFi94)

143 Here is one about the decline of local news viewing but it is not the one I was thinking of.

http://tinyurl.com/z4htr95

And here is one that says commercial revenues are down across the board. This one is closer.

http://tinyurl.com/hsgg6ce

And this one may actually be it.

http://tinyurl.com/kqlwqof

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 19, 2016 06:25 PM (t2KH5)

144 The sad thing is that grammie winger's grandkid is 47 years old.

Posted by: StrawMan at March 19, 2016 06:24 PM (lidp

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You've been peeping in my windows again, haven't you?

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 19, 2016 06:26 PM (dFi94)

145 Good seeing you post a bit, Bannion.

Trust all is well with you?
Posted by: irongrampa at March 19, 2016 06:14 PM (P/8aq)

All is well, hope you're the same.

I left a bit before "The Troubles"

Low tolerance for gross stupidity and logical fallacies dontchaknow.

Now that TB3K is on autopilot, I might meander on back here a bit.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:26 PM (V+kmg)

146 annion taking a smoke break in the alley outside the Klassy Kat, I see.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 19, 2016 06:12 PM (jR7Wy)

*ahem*

The Toy Tiger.

But yeah, same general principle.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:27 PM (V+kmg)

147 Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 06:23 PM (fizMZ)

I am beginning to hate these worthless scum police assassins with a visceral hatred. Personally, I thought it was a better country when we had a shared sense of common values, but my betters keep telling me that all cultures are equally valid.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 06:27 PM (wYnyS)

148 Walking Dead. Makes anyone want to get a gun and stop being a wuss. Self motivation and reliance on your own skills are a continual theme.

Posted by: Dang at March 19, 2016 06:28 PM (2oWD2)

149 Never got into King of the Hill

Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 05:53 PM
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It took me a while, and I really got to love it.

Never realized it was conservative until Hank mentioned that Bill really like to talk about a flat tax proposal....

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at March 19, 2016 06:28 PM (7FH+T)

150 Now that TB3K is on autopilot, I might meander on back here a bit.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:26 PM (V+kmg)
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Bring snacks. Or vodka. Either/Or. Both would be nice.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 19, 2016 06:28 PM (dFi94)

151 Of course there were a lots of commies in Hwd. One was Albert Maltz who wrote the script This Gun For Hire. His writing partner, noa a commie, was WR Burnett. Burntt was a proliffic writer and I have to admire him for it. By the time he was 28 he had over a 100 short stories and 5 novels and he did this while working at night.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._R._Burnett

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 06:28 PM (iQIUe)

152 29 ... Hrothgar, What do you consider a good OTA antenna? It would be nice to have that option.

Posted by: JTB at March 19, 2016 06:29 PM (FvdPb)

153 I'm for JJ Sefton, SMFH and Anna Puma doing a script for parents and kids talking about hard core lefties.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 19, 2016 06:29 PM (W5MSp)

154 THE WORST SHOW ON TV IS Fargo.

When I'm President I'm gonna make FX take it off the air!!!

Posted by: John Kashit at March 19, 2016 06:29 PM (H9MG5)

155 I thought it was a better country when we had a shared sense of common values, but my betters keep telling me that all cultures are equally valid.
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 06:27 PM (wYnyS)

Now see, if that were true, then all cultures should be able to provide potable water for their members, no?

....

I know, you'll get back to me on that one.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:30 PM (V+kmg)

156 who made the Soviet Union what it was wore numbers. What do Progressives think of that
Posted by: deepred at March 19, 2016 06:10 PM (xv5cf)
Some of these make believe it's English made-up names that women get mad about if one doesn't pronounce it as they have made it up in their own not so clever minds make me wish there were just numbers, preferably in the order of their conception. Like baby daddy number one, baby daddy number two, etc. I am just kidding of course.

Posted by: Bebe Dahl at March 19, 2016 06:30 PM (yNyJy)

157 Bring snacks. Or vodka. Either/Or. Both would be nice.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 19, 2016 06:28 PM (dFi94)

May I commend to you the service provided by Cocktail Courier?

Worth. Every. Penny.

Tonight's offering? The Sidecar.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:31 PM (V+kmg)

158 I think another factor which "liberalizes" TV is the phony baloney view of the average American. Everybody has cool friends and cool lovers and cool cars and cool stuff. TV poor is much better than average American. The have-nots watch that and feel cheated.

I remember, for example, on Veronica Mars, the premise was that her father was too honest to be sheriff so they had to live off hisow rent private eye business. Yet Veronica had a cool convertible, had a cooler phone than mine, and bought all sorts of spy gadjets.

I remember in one episode she narrowed down a missing person to one of several hundred similarly named men. She sent out bait letters to each design to elicit a response from only the target. Postage alone would have run close to a hundred dollars the there is the paper, envelopes, and ink. Poor people don't spend the dinner money like that.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 19, 2016 06:31 PM (Nwg0u)

159 I'm pretty much down to HGTV and the Foodnetwork for my TV. I'm suspending cable this summer while my hubby is gone. I'm going to limit the kids' time with electronics this summer too. We are going to DO stuff, not watch stuff. This city living is making us all soft.

Posted by: no good deed at March 19, 2016 06:31 PM (GgxVX)

160 I am well, kind Sir. I hope you are the same.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:24 PM (V+kmg)

I am well and perhaps even a wee bit better than when we last conversed. So glad to hear you are doing well!

Hope you caught the "I'm thinking!" line!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 06:31 PM (wYnyS)

161 I just always have this image of me making a recommendation to watch something and someone invites the grandkids onto the sofa to watch this cool new show and the little squirts vocabulary gets enhanced and he goes all "M for Mature" in front of mama and I am banned for contributing to the delinquency of a minor.
I may be overthinking this...
Posted by: Mortimer at March 19, 2016 06:19 PM (7wqb3)

And it's not just the kids; Mrs. Muse HATES gratuitous nudity and sex scenes on TV shows and some of her sensitivity has rubbed off on me during the years we've been married, and it doesn't take much to ruin the show for us.

We just started watching the recent BBC production of 'War and Peace', and they really sexed it up with gratuitous titty flashes and creepy hinting at incest. This was Tolstoy? If it keeps up, we'll have to give this one the heave ho, too.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 06:31 PM (P5x6u)

162 Grammie' grandkid is 47 years old? Here is thought Grammie was only 47 years old.

Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 06:31 PM (fizMZ)

163 Funny, Frank Castle and Murdock are Catholic, so their politics (maybe axioms is a better word) is brought out to the nth degree.

The show is so dark, visually, that I had to turn my backlight up to medium on my monitor.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 19, 2016 06:31 PM (VdICR)

164 Sidecar, eh? I'll have to look up the ingredients.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 19, 2016 06:32 PM (dFi94)

165 my betters keep telling me that all cultures are equally valid.

Now if we could just get them to hold the DNC convention in Papua New Guinea "cannibal country" , you know, to prove their point...

Posted by: Mortimer at March 19, 2016 06:32 PM (7wqb3)

166 [I154 THE WORST SHOW ON TV IS Fargo.

When I'm President I'm gonna make FX take it off the air!!!
Posted by: John Kashit at March 19, 2016 06:29 PM (H9MG5)

But only once it reaches the second to last episode. Then I'll turn it off, complain about the violence, and make it go off the air.

Posted by: AD at March 19, 2016 06:33 PM (vE4DM)

167 Well it's great to see you again, Bannion!

I've been avoiding the more contentious threads myself of late. The work-to-pleasure ratio of wading through all the bile and Id just isn't worth it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 19, 2016 06:33 PM (jR7Wy)

168 Hope you caught the "I'm thinking!" line!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 06:31 PM (wYnyS)

I grew up on Jack Benny re-runs.

Rochester!!!!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:33 PM (V+kmg)

169 54 THE WORST SHOW ON TV IS Fargo.
When I'm President I'm gonna make FX take it off the air!!!
Posted by: John Kashit at March 19, 2016 06:29 PM (H9MG5)

I actually liked the first season of Fargo. The second, not so much.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 06:33 PM (P5x6u)

170 Grammie' grandkid is 47 years old? Here is thought Grammie was only 47 years old.

Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 06:31 PM (fizMZ)
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I've got a pair of Dr. Scholl's that are 47 years old.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 19, 2016 06:33 PM (dFi94)

171 The show is so dark, visually, that I had to turn my backlight up to medium on my monitor.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 19, 2016 06:31 PM (VdICR)

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I agree. It is annoying.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 06:34 PM (iQIUe)

172 I know someone who has a problem with tv.

As in "I have to catch up on my programs" and "I can't talk, I'm watching The Bachelor."

In other words, tv > people.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at March 19, 2016 06:34 PM (7FH+T)

173
Tim Minear apparently wrote a script for The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Would love to see that on the big screen. Or the small, since television is now a better venue for science fiction.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage

I'd like to see that if it were anything like the book.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 19, 2016 06:34 PM (FkBIv)

174 I thought someone like rubio could give his delegates to Cruz. Wouldn't that put Cruz back in the Game to win?

Posted by: Shiggz at March 19, 2016 06:35 PM (G7wcY)

175 In other words, tv > people.
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at March 19, 2016 06:34 PM (7FH+T)

To be fair, all you have to do is look at this election cycle to see that as a valid coping strategy.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:35 PM (V+kmg)

176 In other words, tv > people.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at March 19, 2016 06:34 PM (7FH+T)
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Yeah, I can't call my mother during Dr. Phil.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 19, 2016 06:35 PM (dFi94)

177 The show is so dark, visually, that I had to turn my backlight up to medium on my monitor.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 19, 2016 06:31 PM (VdICR)

Up to medium? You are living on the edge my friend. But then again you are a bourbon chicken and could be devoured at any time.

Posted by: StrawMan at March 19, 2016 06:35 PM (lidp8)

178 71--- Project Runway is a Conservative show in some ways.
Hard work plus talent plus drive plus more hard work can bring success.
Sometimes you lose and all that means is you pick up the pieces and try again.

Posted by: eman at March 19, 2016 05:43 PM (MQEz6)
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That's an interesting observation.

There are the occasional lefty-sentimental moments --- "I designed this dress in memory of my little brother, who committed suicide after being bullied for his sexuality!"--- and superficially the participants are properly PC.

But you're right. The show is a tribute to hard work and to persevering in the face of criticism, mistakes made, and bad luck. No excuses. Suck it up and carry on.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 19, 2016 06:36 PM (T/5A0)

179 If race and sex can be a construct why not age? My mother often claims she's younger than me.

Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 06:36 PM (fizMZ)

180 Posted by: JTB at March 19, 2016 06:29 PM (FvdPb)

Clearstream 4 with an signal booster to compensate for the line loss.

http://tinyurl.com/zerwft6

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 06:36 PM (wYnyS)

181 And this one may actually be it.

http://tinyurl.com/kqlwqof
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 19, 2016 06:25 PM (t2KH5)

Thank you, I think you found it. And I almost used that pic at the top of the article for this post.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 06:36 PM (P5x6u)

182 But then again you are a bourbon chicken and could be devoured at any time.
Posted by: StrawMan at March 19, 2016 06:35 PM (lidp

That's BOOR-bone.

It's French, so it's classier

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:36 PM (V+kmg)

183
My gosh, have seen exactly NONE of these shows--TV watching is confined to football and that is it.

Real life is much more interesting.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 19, 2016 06:37 PM (P/8aq)

184 >>>I actually liked the first season of Fargo. The second, not so much.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 06:33 PM (P5x6u)<<<

Actually. I've never seen it. Know that a few of the 'Rons/'Ettes mentioned it was pretty good. May have to check it out eventually.

Posted by: not really John Kashit at March 19, 2016 06:37 PM (H9MG5)

185 Rochester!!!!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:33 PM (V+kmg)

Yes, Boss!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 06:38 PM (wYnyS)

186 My gosh, have seen exactly NONE of these shows--TV watching is confined to football and that is it.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 19, 2016 06:37 PM (P/8aq)

How 'bout 'dem Patriots!?!?!

::: runs :::

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:38 PM (V+kmg)

187 JTB, here is the antenna that I use, works great:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00APPDX86/

and it's cheaper by about 2/3rds than Hrothgar's.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 06:39 PM (P5x6u)

188 Posted by: irongrampa at March 19, 2016 06:37 PM (P/8aq)
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I'm kind of in the same boat with you, irongrampa. I own a TV for baseball, football, hockey and basketball. This year I almost forgot basketball.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 19, 2016 06:39 PM (dFi94)

189 take the contrarian view that the cancellation of Firefly was A Good Thing,

But, but, but - moar Morena Baccarin.

http://tinyurl.com/h9a9w4s

Posted by: DaveA at March 19, 2016 06:39 PM (DL2i+)

190 Since Matt Murdock will inevitably be a public defender for some mugger that he beat up in the middle of the night, how is he supposed to feel about that?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 19, 2016 06:40 PM (VdICR)

191
But, but, but - moar Morena Baccarin.

Posted by: DaveA at March 19, 2016 06:39 PM (DL2i+)

Loose screen door. Hurricane.

Absolutely no assembly required.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:40 PM (V+kmg)

192 I know, you'll get back to me on that one.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:30 PM (V+kmg)

I'm thinking!

But at least all cultures provide an abundance of nutritious food for all their citizens!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 06:40 PM (wYnyS)

193 The Last Ship suffers from the I want this shot so we'll write it this ridiculous way theory of far too many scenes.

Posted by: DaveA at March 19, 2016 06:40 PM (DL2i+)

194 I don't really care if shows are conservative per se, I just want to be entertained. But, I find excessive moralizing to be very offputting. Knocks me right out of the story. And you can't do the PC/SJW/lefty moralizing and still write a good story. Instead, the lecture becomes the main point of the experience. And who wants to waste their time on that.

The Jonah Goldberg article that OregonMuse linked to makes that
point very well regarding Battlestar Galactica. The first two seasons
were great, but when they switched to whole occupation storyline, it
wrecked the series. Instead of having a good story be the top goal,
instead it was delivering a lecture. Dumb, and even worse, boring.

Some have mentioned Better Call Saul. I wouldn't call that show conservative, but it meets my criteria for good entertainment. Good storytelling without the lefty lectures.

Though HBO is a very leftwing organization, many of their shows have been good in this way: Sopranos, The Wire, True Detectives, Generation Kill, Rome, Deadwood, Game of Thrones, etc.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 19, 2016 06:41 PM (R+30W)

195 But at least all cultures provide an abundance of nutritious food for all their citizens!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 06:40 PM (wYnyS)

Abraham Maslow weeps.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:41 PM (V+kmg)

196 @15 Lizzy

What's funny about Shonda shows is that they seem to be extremely pro-life. They tend to always put abortion in a bad light and point out how much regret those who have had them now feel.

Seems in stark contrast to her outward lefty views.

Posted by: Rbastid at March 19, 2016 06:41 PM (XwTyM)

197 If you like your Morena Baccarin, there's always Gotham.

I appreciate the show for its high body count and spats 'n' gats fashion sensibility.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 19, 2016 06:42 PM (jR7Wy)

198 Actually. I've never seen it. Know that a few of the 'Rons/'Ettes mentioned it was pretty good. May have to check it out eventually.
Posted by: not really John Kashit at March 19, 2016 06:37 PM (H9MG5)

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I liked both seasons. Season 1 was very conservative. Strong family values. Well, at least in some of the families.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 06:42 PM (iQIUe)

199 It's funny as hell.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 06:42 PM (iQIUe)

200 I watched the season of Project Runway Jr. Those kids were simply amazing. They were competitive, but also very supportive of each other. And as someone who can't even sew buttons back on, I was amazed at their skills. To be able to have a concept, draw it, pick the materials, and then make an outfit from start to finish, under stress and time deadlines. Wow.

Posted by: Beth M at March 19, 2016 06:43 PM (kiy9d)

201 Did enjoy The Expanse. Is there somewhere I can legally download that yet?

Posted by: richard mcenroe at March 19, 2016 06:43 PM (Kucy5)

202 Abraham Maslow weeps.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:41 PM (V+kmg)
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My hierarchy of needs has pool boys, 1000 thread count sheets, and freshly squeezed limeade for my breakfast gimlets.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 19, 2016 06:44 PM (jR7Wy)

203 I remember a Carol Burnett skit making fun of the progressive too-much-violence-on-TV busy bodies. They tried to put on The Plot To Kill Hitler but they had to change it to The Plot To Tickle Hitler.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 19, 2016 06:44 PM (Nwg0u)

204 it's cheaper by about 2/3rds than Hrothgar's.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 06:39 PM (P5x6u)

I've got a theoretical range of about 20 more miles so for those of us in the hinterlands it might be worth it. Also, the price has gone up since I purchased it so that is a valid consideration, think I paid $99 for it.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 06:44 PM (wYnyS)

205 Knocks me right out of the story.

Me too. I used to be able to ignore it, but I just can't anymore.

Posted by: no good deed at March 19, 2016 06:45 PM (GgxVX)

206 129 Tim Minear apparently wrote a script for The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Would love to see that on the big screen. Or the small, since television is now a better venue for science fiction.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 19, 2016 06:19 PM (jR7Wy)

Heh. Would like to see that, also.

One of Tim Minear's other gone-too-soon projects was one of my favorite shows ever: Wonderfalls. It starred Caroline Dhavernas, lately of another too-good-for-TV show, Hannibal.

Posted by: Gem at March 19, 2016 06:47 PM (c+gwp)

207 Pardon my ignorance, but did I see something about Hugh Laurie (formerly of House) being on another show now? I think House may have been the last TV series I watched. I liked him.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 19, 2016 06:47 PM (dFi94)

208 Nevah mind. Got it.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at March 19, 2016 06:47 PM (Kucy5)

209 Since Matt Murdock will inevitably be a public defender for some mugger that he beat up in the middle of the night, how is he supposed to feel about that?

He'd probably say that the right of the mugger to a fair trial, legal counsel, and all the other trappings of our system are important, because if they're given to a scumbag mugger then they'll be given to the truly innocent.

Then he'd defend the guy to the best of his ability.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at March 19, 2016 06:48 PM (fC9RO)

210 My hierarchy of needs has pool boys, 1000 thread count sheets, and freshly squeezed limeade for my breakfast gimlets.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 19, 2016 06:44 PM (jR7Wy)

What is "What is best in life?"

....

All Hail Eris Playthings for $400, Alex.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:48 PM (V+kmg)

211 173
Tim Minear apparently wrote a script for The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Would love to see that on the big screen. Or the small, since television is now a better venue for science fiction.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage

I'd like to see that if it were anything like the book.

In the movie version, everything is fine once the Earth peacekeepers land.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at March 19, 2016 06:49 PM (Kucy5)

212 Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:48 PM (V+kmg)

I think we can all agree that Eris has the ability to prioritize properly!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 06:50 PM (wYnyS)

213 137 32 Mad Men...

Posted by: E.E. Knight at March 19, 2016 05:24 PM (7b4Mw)

You are wildly misreading Mad Men. Matthew Weiner made it pretty clear that the show is a celebration of the dispossession of the white, conservative male American.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 19, 2016 06:24 PM (nFdGS)

_____

That was his intent. But in many ways it failed since a lot of younger people saw Mad Men and didn't think, my goodness those were horrible times, instead thought, fuck, I want to be Don Draper.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 19, 2016 06:51 PM (0LHZx)

214 In the movie version, everything is fine once the Earth peacekeepers land.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at March 19, 2016 06:49 PM (Kucy5)

Wearing blue helmets, no doubt!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 06:51 PM (wYnyS)

215 My gosh, have seen exactly NONE of these shows--TV watching is confined to football and that is it.

Real life is much more interesting.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 19, 2016 06:37 PM (P/8aq)

Same here, excpet for baseball instead of football, and I get that from MLB.TV

I never have been a TV watcher, except when HGTV first came out; I did watch a lot of those shows, but then it went to mostly real estate shows, and the design shows that were left all jumped on the 60s/70s design trends. I quit watching probably about ten years ago.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 19, 2016 06:51 PM (q1FtT)

216 Turn: Washington's Spies should be back on soon for all your rebellious, liberty loving, patriotic (though somewhat historically inaccurate) needs.

Posted by: Samuel Culper at March 19, 2016 06:52 PM (H9MG5)

217 Wait! What's wrong with Tom and Jerry?

Too violent, if I had to guess.

Dammit, I grew up with Tom and Jerry. Still my favorite cartoon.

Sigh...

Posted by: El Lurko at March 19, 2016 06:53 PM (CEvum)

218 Dammit, I grew up with Tom and Jerry. Still my favorite cartoon.

Posted by: El Lurko at March 19, 2016 06:53 PM (CEvum)

Still Bugs Bunny for me.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:53 PM (V+kmg)

219 Don't forget the Blue Bloods always has a family Sunday dinner with a prayer.

Posted by: lynndy at March 19, 2016 06:54 PM (DaWUf)

220 207 Pardon my ignorance, but did I see something about Hugh Laurie (formerly of House) being on another show now? I think House may have been the last TV series I watched. I liked him.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 19, 2016 06:47 PM (dFi94)

============
The Night Manager which will air on AMC in April. Better to catch the BBC version which is airing now. The BBC format forces their shows to be slightly edited. AMC asked that they make the show longer but the BBC refused. It is only 6 episodes but there are talks about a second season. It's very stylish. Hugh Laurie is an evil arms dealer. I would think that you might like Tom Hiddleston better. Didt you hear that his bum broke the intenet last Sunday?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 06:54 PM (iQIUe)

221 180 ... Thanks, Hrothgar.

Posted by: JTB at March 19, 2016 06:55 PM (FvdPb)

222 Daffy Duck

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at March 19, 2016 06:55 PM (q/y4y)

223 Can't believe no one has mentioned House of Cards. Not conservative necessarily- but the really bad guys are Democrats. Plus it shows how big government corrupts absolutely.

Also there is a scene where a professor explains to a class of journalism students how the media deliberately went out of its way to harm republicans during Bush I era as an example of media bias. almost fell out of my chair at the honesty of the scene.

Posted by: ShannonB at March 19, 2016 06:55 PM (tQDj6)

224 I've never seen bannings in real time before! Kind of exciting.

Posted by: Gem at March 19, 2016 06:56 PM (c+gwp)

225 212 Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:48 PM (V+kmg)

I think we can all agree that Eris has the ability to prioritize properly!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 06:50 PM (wYnyS)
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All the levels of the pyramid support the next. Fulgencio and Porfirio can't squeeze fruit efficiently if they've been deprived of a decent night's sleep.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 19, 2016 06:56 PM (jR7Wy)

226 I've never seen bannings in real time before! Kind of exciting.
Posted by: Gem at March 19, 2016 06:56 PM (c+gwp)

Oh, it's a thing, man. It's a thing.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:56 PM (V+kmg)

227 OT but crime not politicsish

In Houston, 14 year old illegal and her father go missing

He is part of the Mexican drug cartel and has a record

They find him, shot and burned, and his truck several miles away

Today they found her, shot outside Houston

Everybody knows it's a drug turf thing. Mama cries on TV from Mexico, hysterically crying but no water coming out. She knows what happened.. She was conveniently in Mexico for surgery when it happened

Killer prolly in Mexico too. FBI called in to. This is life in a border state

Posted by: ThunderB at March 19, 2016 06:57 PM (zOTsN)

228 183, irongrandpa - yup, me too. Football and baseball are pretty much it. No news. Wife watches the occasional movie. Family, reading woodworking, gardening, home repairs, fishing. Life's a lot more interesting without the boob tube.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at March 19, 2016 06:57 PM (/WPPJ)

229 I've got a pair of Dr. Scholl's that are 47 years old.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 19, 2016 06:33 PM (dFi94)

1969 was a very good year......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 19, 2016 06:57 PM (ej1L0)

230 Fulgencio and Porfirio can't squeeze fruit efficiently if they've been deprived of a decent night's sleep.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 19, 2016 06:56 PM (jR7Wy)

*perks*

Is there a specific fruit they're supposed to squeeze?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 19, 2016 06:57 PM (V+kmg)

231 And Tom Hiddleston is so effing hot, it should be illegal. Have you ever seen him dance? OMG. ::THUD::

Posted by: Gem at March 19, 2016 06:58 PM (c+gwp)

232 "Wait! What's wrong with Tom and Jerry? "

Nothing. Especially when that bulldog got ahold of Tom's ass.

Fuhhhhhhh...Nee.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 06:58 PM (x3MHz)

233 Outrageous Acts of Science marathon on Science channel now.

Fun show with no politics.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at March 19, 2016 06:59 PM (q/y4y)

234 Bugs Bunny and the Marx Brothers are part of my Western (Hemisphere) Canon. It's not just an important foundation in American pop culture, it's a celebration of giving the middle finger to stuffed shirts and authority figures.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 19, 2016 07:00 PM (jR7Wy)

235 "Killer prolly in Mexico too. FBI called in to. This is life in a border state"

So.....another Tuesday.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 07:00 PM (x3MHz)

236 House of Cards isn't conservative at all. It's a fun show to watch, but conservative it is not. Yes the bad guy is a Democrat. But that's irrelevant. If you pay close attention to the underlying themes, every liberal idea/talking point is presented as valid and good.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 19, 2016 07:00 PM (0LHZx)

237 Was searching around Web, missed a banning eh,
Great Escape (1967) is on TMC..

Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 07:00 PM (fizMZ)

238 Uh-oh. Who bought it?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 07:00 PM (x3MHz)

239 All the levels of the pyramid support the next. Fulgencio and Porfirio can't squeeze fruit efficiently if they've been deprived of a decent night's sleep.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 19, 2016 06:56 PM (jR7Wy)

You're a systems analyst are you not?

Sustainable systems specialty, no doubt!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 07:01 PM (wYnyS)

240 Is that the Coronado murders, ThunderB?

Posted by: no good deed at March 19, 2016 07:02 PM (GgxVX)

241 There are a lot of old greats in this movie.

Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 07:02 PM (fizMZ)

242 137:You are wildly misreading Mad Men. Matthew Weiner made it pretty clear that the show is a celebration of the dispossession of the white, conservative male American.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge

The writers and producers of The Wire thought they were doing a critic of the War on Drugs and instead inadvertently wrote a cautionary tale of the Welfare state and the damage done. Shit happens.

Posted by: Puddleglume at March 19, 2016 07:02 PM (NGd+i)

243 At least Frank and his wife have declared war on terrorism.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 07:02 PM (iQIUe)

244 Heh. Would like to see that, also.

Posted by: Gem at March 19, 2016 06:47 PM (c+gwp)

I used to have a link to Minear's 'Harsh Mistress' script, but it's 404 now and the script seems to have disappeared from the internetz. I'm still looking.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 07:02 PM (P5x6u)

245 Who was banned? Was it me?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 07:03 PM (iQIUe)

246
You're a systems analyst are you not?

Sustainable systems specialty, no doubt!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 07:01 PM (wYnyS)
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Oh heavens no.

I fabricate the Joo listening rocks.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 19, 2016 07:03 PM (jR7Wy)

247 @monsieur. Respectfully disagree. The liberal line that is pushed is not really presented as valid. The larger theme of insidious government corruption is paramount.

Posted by: ShannonB at March 19, 2016 07:03 PM (tQDj6)

248 Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 19, 2016 07:00 PM (jR7Wy)

I'd ban the Marx Brothers but only after I had watched all their films!

Posted by: Juan Katshit at March 19, 2016 07:03 PM (wYnyS)

249 Thank goodness that in my ancientness I'm not the only one that likes the oldies.

Say, since we're talking about TV, is it just me, or is Fox News starting to drift leftward?

Posted by: El Lurko at March 19, 2016 07:03 PM (CEvum)

250 The Men Who Built America: This miniseries made the list because to be pro-American these days is to be conservative, and there are few TV programs I've ever seen which sing the praises of America louder than this one.

That's a great series. And they have some "More" version of it, too, though I can't put my finger on what was different. Highly recommended.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 19, 2016 07:03 PM (zc3Db)

251 242 137:You are wildly misreading Mad Men. Matthew Weiner made it pretty clear that the show is a celebration of the dispossession of the white, conservative male American.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge

The writers and producers of The Wire thought they were doing a critic of the War on Drugs and instead inadvertently wrote a cautionary tale of the Welfare state and the damage done. Shit happens.

I should have also added the damage caused by the Democrat Party in the inner city.

Posted by: Puddleglume at March 19, 2016 07:03 PM (NGd+i)

252 Hairyback Guy @ 229----1969?
My DAUGHTER was born in 1969. Mixed emotions, I has.

Posted by: Eromero at March 19, 2016 07:04 PM (zLDYs)

253 Only ever watched the British 'House of Cards.'

Frankly, I can't see how the US version could be in any way as good.

Posted by: Dr. F at March 19, 2016 07:04 PM (cJDvr)

254 Not Coronado

Father and daughter lived in Katy, a suburb of Houston

Her fiends came over for a sleep over the next day

Her friends reported her missing

Posted by: ThunderB at March 19, 2016 07:04 PM (zOTsN)

255 I used to have a link to Minear's 'Harsh Mistress' script, but it's 404 now and the script seems to have disappeared from the internetz. I'm still looking.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 07:02 PM (P5x6u)

Oh please find that one!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 07:04 PM (wYnyS)

256 "and the Marx Brothers"

I was late to appreciate the Marx Bros. I admit it. I was wrong.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 07:04 PM (x3MHz)

257 190 Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 19, 2016 06:40 PM (VdICR)

Disbarred.

That is the point, Matt Murdock is a walking talking example of a lack of legal ethics worthy of Saul Goodman.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 19, 2016 07:05 PM (g8Hfr)

258 219 Don't forget the Blue Bloods always has a family Sunday dinner with a prayer.
Posted by: lynndy at March 19, 2016 06:54 PM (DaWUf)

Not always. I mean, always Sunday dinner but sometimes the prayer has already been said by the time we get to eavesdrop.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 07:05 PM (P5x6u)

259 Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 19, 2016 07:03 PM (jR7Wy)

So you thread the needle between a rock and a hard place?

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 07:06 PM (wYnyS)

260 231 And Tom Hiddleston is so effing hot, it should be illegal. Have you ever seen him dance? OMG. ::THUD::
Posted by: Gem at March 19, 2016 06:58 PM (c+gwp)

==========
He's a real ham. He will do anything to entertain people. He obviously enjoys acting.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 07:06 PM (iQIUe)

261 A 14 year old goes missing and is murdered and the only people reporting it are her 14 year old friends.

Posted by: ThunderB at March 19, 2016 07:07 PM (zOTsN)

262 Thanks to OM as well for the antenna suggestion.

It's more and more difficult to watch TV without yelling at the set. Even, or especially, the commercials drive me up the wall with their constant denigration of anything male, at least adult, white males. There isn't one news service on TV worth the time. The shows I watched for years are aging (NCIS) or the plot went to hell (Castle). The comedies are just half hour insult fests. And the assumption that if you are over 25, you aren't worth the attention is wearing. That leaves "Signed, Sealed, Delivered" on Hallmark and a few British mysteries on PBS. (NOT Sherlock!)

TV is leaving me, not the other way around.

Posted by: JTB at March 19, 2016 07:07 PM (FvdPb)

263 1) some seasons of '24' were pretty good

2) I like 'Bosch' as a pretty good entry in th cops as good guys without the liberal spin of Law and Order.

Posted by: PrincetonAl at March 19, 2016 07:07 PM (0v6Aj)

264 "A 14 year old goes missing and is murdered and the only people reporting it are her 14 year old friends."

Says something, no?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 07:07 PM (x3MHz)

265 THE WORST SHOW ON TV IS Fargo.

***

I had a poll cross my TL over at Twitter today. It was from Hulu and asked which is the better show, Fargo or Rick and Morty. Rick and Morty got 92% of the vote.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 19, 2016 07:08 PM (SEXy3)

266 227 Posted by: ThunderB at March 19, 2016 06:57 PM (zOTsN)

My all-time fave "life on a border town" moment was when the Narcos from Juarez dropped an Earth Mover from the copper mine on a lawyer's house who had screwed them on money laundering down one of the Franklin Mountains in El Paso...

"ole"

Posted by: sven10077 at March 19, 2016 07:08 PM (g8Hfr)

267 Great Escape on TCM

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 19, 2016 07:09 PM (FkBIv)

268 Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 07:06 PM (wYnyS)
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You don't have to work blue, Hrothie.

That's Bannion's bag.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 19, 2016 07:09 PM (jR7Wy)

269 This movie was changed a bit from reality, the Americans helped dig but we're all moved out before completing the tunnels. There was a lot of help from the outside in care packages for needed raw materials sent requests to British in secret and got things needed. 50 were shot in retaliation. Three did escape, 2 Norwegians and a Dutch.

Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 07:09 PM (fizMZ)

270 Really liked the first season "Fargo."

LOVED the second season. Can't wait to see what the 3rd is like.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 07:09 PM (x3MHz)

271 Why did I read all of that?

...I never watch anything but Hockey and Wicked Tuna.

Posted by: garrett at March 19, 2016 07:10 PM (MvFEq)

272 You don't have to work blue, Hrothie.

That's Bannion's bag.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 19, 2016 07:09 PM (jR7Wy)

Sorry about that, the earlier geological pun fest had burned me out on the rock motif!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 07:11 PM (wYnyS)

273 Minear's Moon is a Harsh Mistress script downloadable pdf:

http://tinyurl.com/z4j63n4

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 07:12 PM (P5x6u)

274 I thought "Aquarius" was good at showing the generational divide between the WWII-era detective and his younger protegee.

Was not at all hippie friendly, although by this time the grooviness had morphed into drug-addled freakiness.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 19, 2016 07:13 PM (jR7Wy)

275 >> Great Escape on TCM

'Tea without Milk is so uncivilized.'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXzoJin8-p0

Posted by: Blythe at March 19, 2016 07:13 PM (MvFEq)

276 http://tinyurl.com/hnm9l4d

Marine Killed in ISIL Rocket Attack on Iraqi Base....

Thank God the media is not into that whole "grim milestone" thing now WRT Bark and Hilly

Posted by: sven10077 at March 19, 2016 07:13 PM (g8Hfr)

277 Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 07:12 PM (P5x6u)

Thanks OM.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 07:13 PM (wYnyS)

278

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 07:13 PM (P5x6u)

279 Oh yeah! I miss the Jack Benny show and the man himself. The only program that came close was the Carol Burnett Show. I doubt either would succeed now.

Posted by: JTB at March 19, 2016 07:13 PM (FvdPb)

280 Mrs. MH likes Blue Bloods.

I usually channel surf on most nights. i do enjoy sports

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 19, 2016 07:14 PM (voOPb)

281 >>I was late to appreciate the Marx Bros. I admit it. I was wrong.

Peanuts....to you!

Posted by: Chico at March 19, 2016 07:14 PM (MvFEq)

282 Thank God the media is not into that whole "grim milestone" thing now WRT Bark and Hilly
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Yeah, don't get me started on that.

EVERY single day the media reported ANY death during the Bush era.

Once O was crowned, NOTHING. No reports of deaths. Nada.

It's like we're not even there any more.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at March 19, 2016 07:15 PM (7FH+T)

283 Rick and Morty got 92% of the vote.

Heh!! Rick and Morty is more realistic!

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 19, 2016 07:15 PM (NGd+i)

284 Hairyback Guy @ 229----1969?
My DAUGHTER was born in 1969. Mixed emotions, I has.
Posted by: Eromero at March 19, 2016 07:04 PM (zLDYs)

Yup...the older you get the faster time goes....enjoy everyday and don't let the bastards wear you down.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 19, 2016 07:15 PM (ej1L0)

285 Thank God the media is not into that whole "grim milestone" thing now WRT Bark and Hilly

Posted by: sven10077 at March 19, 2016 07:13 PM (g8Hfr)

Mere bumps in the road as we break eggs to make omelets, my friendsh!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 07:17 PM (wYnyS)

286 >There are a lot of old greats in this movie.

Catch-22 is like that, too.

They even had room for Art Garfunkel in that one.

Posted by: garrett at March 19, 2016 07:17 PM (MvFEq)

287 The Blacklist! I like action and plot.

Posted by: Vince at March 19, 2016 07:19 PM (e2p2q)

288
I miss the Jack Benny show and the man himself.

You can catch Jack Benny shows if you have an AntennaTV station in your area.

http://affiliate.zap2it.com/tv/the-jack-benny-program/EP01481513?aid=antennatv

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 19, 2016 07:20 PM (FkBIv)

289 Once O was crowned, NOTHING. No reports of deaths. Nada.
It's like we're not even there any more.
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at March 19, 2016 07:15 PM (7FH+T)

Yup....the men and women who are serving today are simply ignored unless it's a gay (remember when that meant happy and light hearted) or lesbo thing or some broad becoming a Ranger sans combat.

Pray for all our service members and the fallen and hopefully once Baracus is gone we can repair the damage.

Hopefully.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 19, 2016 07:21 PM (ej1L0)

290 If someone wanted to raise merry hell in Hollywood, they could get the IRS to run all the studios' books.

The real books.

The level of racketeering in Hollywood makes the Mafia and both political parties combined look like amateurs.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at March 19, 2016 07:22 PM (D0J8L)

291 .-. --..-- --- -

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at March 19, 2016 07:22 PM (gUoN4)

292 "24
""Better Call Saul" is conservative? How do you figure?"

The roughness of life and everyday people making their way. There's
no government life-line mentioned for those characters. All on their
own.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 05:19 PM (x3MHz)"
Not sure if Saul is a "conservative" show, but I can't stop watching it. The ex-cop slash tough guy is in reality hopelessly liberal.

Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at March 19, 2016 07:22 PM (kfoLf)

293 "The ex-cop slash tough guy is in reality hopelessly liberal."

Big Mike. Probably is in real-life, I expect no less anymore. But he is a fascinating character on the show. Ex-PPD and Cop Killer plus supreme bad guy.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 07:26 PM (x3MHz)

294
Last tv show I watched was Tour of Duty. 87 to 90, dealt with a platoon in Vietnam.

Kinda could identify.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 19, 2016 07:26 PM (P/8aq)

295 The level of racketeering in Hollywood makes the Mafia and both political parties combined look like amateurs.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at March 19, 2016 07:22 PM (D0J8L)

But as long as we let the politicians wet their beaks, we're golden!

Posted by: Zonbie Don Corleone at March 19, 2016 07:27 PM (wYnyS)

296 Later. Off to watch Armie Hammer in the Lone Ranger on USA. What can say, I like a western, the action adventure, and the humor. And Arnie is easy on this doll's eyes;-) Nite all. Take care.

Posted by: Bebe Dahl at March 19, 2016 07:29 PM (yNyJy)

297 Not necessarily political/conservative but a little bootstrapy are all of the Alaska shows. "Alaska the last frontier", "Life Below Zero", "Mountain Men" there is also "life free or die" an off grid reality type show. All of these show hunting, fire arms, self sufficiency and a surprising amount of intelligence.
Many seem to be very non materialistic, have a great attitude and seem very appreciative of what they have, how they live and are genuinely happy to be alive. I hope shows like that inspire a younger generation.
The a la carte stuff that is offered on ROKU is pretty awesome too..

Posted by: CrookedRecords at March 19, 2016 07:30 PM (N3mhQ)

298 "Tour of Duty. 87 to 90"

Watched just about every episode. Could not identify being a kid at the time.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 07:30 PM (x3MHz)

299 Hey everybody.

Someone above mentioned Patricia Heaton's new comedy series "The Middle" and that they were especially impressed by the young woman who plays Sue Heck, the lead couple's daughter. I'm impressed too and looked her up: Eden Sher. She looks so much like a young Mayim Bialik, my mom thought she was the same actress.

Agreed, she's going places.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 19, 2016 07:30 PM (ntObR)

300 **peeks into thread**

**sees no books, just TV**

**door closes shut**

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 19, 2016 07:31 PM (EZebt)

301 Arne Hammer is a good actor. Oddly, tho great grandpa was a commie, his mother is very religious and teaches bible studies.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 07:31 PM (iQIUe)

302 Currently watching the movie "The Monuments Men". While not at TV show in line w/ the theme here it is a movie that shows America doing something good. Wonder why George Clooney was in it, he's leftist douchebag.

Posted by: Farmer at March 19, 2016 07:31 PM (o/90i)

303 EVERY single day the media reported ANY death during the Bush era.

Once O was crowned, NOTHING. No reports of deaths. Nada.

It's like we're not even there any more.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at March 19, 2016 07:15 PM (7FH+T)

Nothing is going on overseas, the economy has never been better, no Muslims terrorists killing Americans in America. It's just all unicorns and rainbows (of the queer variety). The MFM refuses to mention the reality of how shitty things are for the country and us

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2016 07:33 PM (45oDG)

304 Another show that I think was under-the-radar conservative:

The King of Queens. Jerry Stiller's father-in-law character was portrayed as a far leftist... and batshit crazy out of his mind, thoughtless, and ridiculously greedy/shortsided.

Meanwhile anytime anything sociological or political-wise showed up, it seems like the show usually took the conservative side.

A GREAT episode of KoQ was when, to decrease their taxes, the lead couple (Doug and Carrie, played by Kevin James and Leah Remini) decide to donate to the nearby elementary school library. But Carrie insists on having public credit for the donation... which screws everything up in really funny ways. Marla Gibbs had a cameo as a kindly old librarian.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 19, 2016 07:33 PM (ntObR)

305 Clooney produced it. And it is a horrible movie. There are some very good documentaries on the subject but this movie with the 80 year old soldiers are too much.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 07:33 PM (iQIUe)

306
Not sure if Saul is a "conservative" show, but I
can't stop watching it. The ex-cop slash tough guy is in reality
hopelessly liberal.

Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at March 19, 2016 07:22 PM (kfoLf)

I watched the first season on Netflix...great show....but is there more? Another season somewhere?

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 19, 2016 07:34 PM (0IhFx)

307 The MFM refuses to mention the reality of how shitty things are for the country and us

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2016 07:33 PM (45oDG)

Things aren't shitty for them, and they don't know anyone like us!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 07:35 PM (wYnyS)

308 Bro Cavil, if you want to see an example, look up
"Mirage Tavern Chicago 1978", an investigation I was distantly involved in.
Need one add that all of the so-called "reforms" did zip ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at March 19, 2016 07:36 PM (gUoN4)

309 "Another season somewhere? "

Second season airing now. Assume it'll be online accordingly with the first season.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 07:36 PM (x3MHz)

310 VERY single day the media reported ANY death during the Bush era.

Once O was crowned, NOTHING. No reports of deaths. Nada.

==============
Dont forget the homeless which is worse now than ever before.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 07:37 PM (iQIUe)

311 "Things aren't shitty for them, and they don't know anyone like us!"

*bows at the truth this man has just said*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 07:38 PM (x3MHz)

312 Greetings:

I gave "Blue Bloods" a shot when I first heard it referred to as "conservative" but the program I saw was about a young white male veteran being murdered by three white male yuppies which provokes a nearby Negro security guard to confess that he too had some serious problems when he got home from his military service all of which, in turn, made the veteran detective son go off the deep end and abuse the human rights of the three yuppies. That was where I got off that bus.

The larger point though is important enough that I often wonder if any social scientists study and/or publish about it. For me the current state of the "over-the-air" programming is borderline intolerable not just because of what's in the programs themselves but the relentless progressive messages imbedded in commercials and Public Service announcements. If repetition is the basis of propaganda, Progressives, as used to be said in introducing a TV program of my youth, "have taken control of our TV sets."

My conclusion is that it will be Stupid White Guy commercials for the rest of my duration.

Posted by: 11B40 at March 19, 2016 07:39 PM (evgyj)

313 Never read this before but a extensive write up on Wikipedia of Stalag wafflehaus III.

Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 07:39 PM (fizMZ)

314 Anonosaurus @158 .... no kidding !
I always marvel at the TV "middle class" families living in these 5000 sq. ft. mcmansions with all the amenities.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at March 19, 2016 07:39 PM (gUoN4)

315 I will be thrilled to be wrong, and pleased if they can resist the temptation to get preachy.

I don't tune in to Daredevil to see Alan Alda in red pajamas.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 19, 2016 05:29 PM (g8Hfr)

I am on the third episode... they got preachy (also all "guns are icky").

Posted by: redbanzai at March 19, 2016 07:41 PM (NPofj)

316 273
Minear's Moon is a Harsh Mistress script downloadable pdf:

http://tinyurl.com/z4j63n4

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 07:12 PM (P5x6u)

That. Would. Be. Awesome.

Posted by: Mortimer at March 19, 2016 07:41 PM (7wqb3)

317 I watched the first season on Netflix...great show....but is there more? Another season somewhere?
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 19, 2016 07:34 PM (0IhFx)
=========
Seaso 2 started 5 weeks ago. Is is good bc they introduce various character from BB. The gun seller, Tuco who is stilll scary as hell, his grandfather...

It's funny bc if you hear the actor Tuco in real life he is very soft spoken and articulate.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 07:42 PM (iQIUe)

318 Ya know, RK, I so want the lefties to to be punished for what they have done to America. But,,,that means I'm being arrogant and judgemental. Not my job, that's GOD'D job. Still,,,,,

Posted by: Eromero at March 19, 2016 07:43 PM (zLDYs)

319 Ambush in canyon. Because NO ONE has ever done that before.

Watching Lone Ranger because somebody mentioned it above.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 07:43 PM (x3MHz)

320 OMG, don't get me started on "Stupid White Guy commercials" !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at March 19, 2016 07:44 PM (gUoN4)

321 Posted by: redbanzai at March 19, 2016 07:41 PM (NPofj)

Really? I disagree.

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at March 19, 2016 07:44 PM (R5HRU)

322 This has absolutely nothing to do with politics, but Pee Wee Herman's new movie 'Pee Wee's Big Holiday' is now on Netflix

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 19, 2016 07:44 PM (SEXy3)

323 315 Posted by: redbanzai at March 19, 2016 07:41 PM (NPofj)

I just watched it, I'm pondering it.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 19, 2016 07:45 PM (g8Hfr)

324 "But,,,that means I'm being arrogant and judgemental. Not my job, that's GOD'D job. Still,,,,,"

I don't judge them. I just try not to reward them as best I can.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 07:45 PM (x3MHz)

325 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 19, 2016 05:11 PM (q1FtT)

Ace has graciously allowed some of us the keys to his blog on the weekends.

But in our arrogance we think we have more to say!

Not jumping ship....just expanding our horizons!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 19, 2016 07:45 PM (Zu3d9)

326 all of which, in turn, made the veteran detective son go off the deep end and abuse the human rights of the three yuppies

So it's a story about the Trump presidency then?

Posted by: chemjeff at March 19, 2016 07:45 PM (5p18q)

327 the whole tom selleck "jesse stone" series is good.
he plays a really dark character that has lots of firepower and shoots to kill all the bad guys. he also sleeps with lots of chicks. and drinks.

they're old, but they do marathons every once in awhile.

my favorite line (after he'd pulled over some asshat) was:

"this is my town. there's no dashcam in the cruiser to protect you so you can toy with the Constitution"

Posted by: concrete girl at March 19, 2016 07:46 PM (ceWrl)

328 Ot, but the two best NBA teams are playing now. The GS Warriors are machinelike and unstoppable, and the Spurs haven't lost a regular season home game in over a year.

Since inception, the Spurs have the best winning record of any major league team--NFL, NHL, MLB, NBA--and are the only team in major sports that beats every other team in the league in win-loss.

Posted by: stace at March 19, 2016 07:47 PM (ozZau)

329
If repetition is the basis of propaganda, Progressives, as used to be said in introducing a TV program of my youth, "have taken control of our TV sets."

There is nothing wrong with your television set.

https://youtu.be/uNhi8PoahPo

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 19, 2016 07:47 PM (FkBIv)

330 Truer words never spoke. I still plan to take Mrs. E to Zootopia for her birfday. Is that a conservative movie?

Posted by: Eromero at March 19, 2016 07:48 PM (zLDYs)

331 Posted by: stace at March 19, 2016 07:47 PM (ozZau)
Forgot about that game thanks.

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at March 19, 2016 07:48 PM (R5HRU)

332 "But,,,that means I'm being arrogant and judgemental."

Besides, "arrogant" and "judgemental" are not at all the same things in my mind.

I/You have to be judgemental everyday in everyday dealings. Arrogant is another level.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 07:49 PM (x3MHz)

333 >>>better call saul

upcoming marathon on amc channel.
check it.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 19, 2016 07:51 PM (ceWrl)

334 Posted by: concrete girl at March 19, 2016 07:46 PM (ceWrl)

Robert Parker books.

Not bad....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 19, 2016 07:51 PM (Zu3d9)

335 Judgemental as like discriminating. Yeah, both good things if used wisely. Point well taken. Off to bed to read American Rifleman and get some sleep. 0400 seems to be coming an hour early here in ETEX for some reason.

Posted by: Eromero at March 19, 2016 07:52 PM (zLDYs)

336 About to start Mr. Robot.

Any warnings?

Posted by: Mortimer at March 19, 2016 07:52 PM (7wqb3)

337
One symptom of the cultural problem is how much TV people watch. Jonah Goldberg admitted to 6 hours a night in one corner post a few years ago (IIRC).

And there you have it! Podcasts, free or otherwise, are the way to go -- you choose the content and you choose when to listen, not watch. Thus you can listen while doing other things.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: 'Who Decides?' at March 19, 2016 07:53 PM (BK3ZS)

338 Posted by: Mortimer at March 19, 2016 07:52 PM (7wqb3)
I heard it was Occupy Wall St on TV.

Never seen it personally.

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at March 19, 2016 07:53 PM (R5HRU)

339 your definition of "redneck" differs from my world view.

Posted by: Shaftoe at March 19, 2016 07:55 PM (y5t0P)

340 Posted by: redbanzai at March 19, 2016 07:41 PM (NPofj)

Really? I disagree.

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at March 19, 2016 07:44 PM (R5HRU)

SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER

Skip this post if you don't want spoilers.

I am at the part where the Punisher kidnapped DD and tries to force him to shoot a gun by threatening to kill a bad guy in front of him (who just happens to be DD's client). To me, the Punisher (the gun guy) comes off as majorly unhinged and the show is really stressing that DD is way better than the Punisher because he doesn't use a gun.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 19, 2016 07:55 PM (NPofj)

341
I heard it was Occupy Wall St on TV.

Louis Rukeyser was a gas.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 19, 2016 07:55 PM (FkBIv)

342 Wondering if I want to get up and watch Australia Grand Prix live on at 1 am or replay tomorrow afternoon.
Good night horde

Posted by: Skip at March 19, 2016 07:56 PM (fizMZ)

343 Posted by: redbanzai at March 19, 2016 07:55 PM (NPofj)

Keep watching. It'll all make sense. Then again I'm familiar with the comics, and that rooftop scene I thought was great because Frank has a point.

What Frank does keeps them down, what DD does give them an opportunity to come back.

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at March 19, 2016 07:57 PM (R5HRU)

344 One symptom of the cultural problem is how much TV people watch. Jonah Goldberg admitted to 6 hours a night in one corner post a few years ago (IIRC).

***

I "watch" a lot of tv but I'm never only watching tv. I am usually on the internetz while doing so. I didn't realize how bored I've become of tv until I was in the hospital and my doc took my laptop away leaving television as my only diversion.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 19, 2016 07:57 PM (SEXy3)

345 Johnny Depp with a crow on his head.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 07:58 PM (x3MHz)

346 137:You are wildly misreading Mad Men. Matthew Weiner made it pretty clear that the show is a celebration of the dispossession of the white, conservative male American.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge

The writers and producers of The Wire thought they were doing a critic of the War on Drugs and instead inadvertently wrote a cautionary tale of the Welfare state and the damage done. Shit happens.
Posted by: Puddleglume at March 19, 2016 07:02 PM (NGd+i)

I know I'm going sound like a total lib, but if you're paying attention to the way people act, the corporate world comes off pretty damn badly, even though the people look cool while doing it.

But, yeah, that didn't really register. It's like Oliver Stone and Wall Street. He intended it to be an indictment of the finance industry. Instead, a bunch of people watched it and thought "I want to be Gordon Gekko!"

Posted by: AD at March 19, 2016 07:59 PM (vE4DM)

347 "this is my town. there's no dashcam in the cruiser to protect you so you can toy with the Constitution"

See, that kind of thing pisses me off. Hollywood gives these sorts of roles to the law-and-order characters in their stories. I'd love to see the story that contains a character of the corrupt bureaucrat shitting all over the Constitution.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 19, 2016 07:59 PM (5p18q)

348 OT, but the Lincoln/Douglas episode of 'Race for the White House' is coming on CNN right now. I watched it a few days ago. It is very good.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 19, 2016 08:00 PM (SEXy3)

349 politics is downstream from culture.

------

*plop*

*flush*

Posted by: Culture at March 19, 2016 08:01 PM (/f6Nd)

350 leaving television as my only diversion.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 19, 2016 07:57 PM (SEXy3)

Heh....

I had the flu recently, and the stunning lack of anything to watch on TV was amazing. I would have gladly watched anything half-way entertaining, but there was almost nothing to be had.

There is only so much cooking I can watch.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 19, 2016 08:01 PM (Zu3d9)

351 Keep watching. It'll all make sense. Then again I'm
familiar with the comics, and that rooftop scene I thought was great
because Frank has a point.

What Frank does keeps them down, what DD does give them an opportunity to come back.

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at March 19, 2016 07:57 PM (R5HRU)

I will keep watching with an open mind

I liked the first season mostly because I love Vincent D'Onofrio. My gosh he made a great villain.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 19, 2016 08:01 PM (NPofj)

352
Posted by: redbanzai at March 19, 2016 08:01 PM (NPofj)
He was great because he was a frightening character. When he finally showed his violent side? Wow, crazy switch he can turn.

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at March 19, 2016 08:02 PM (R5HRU)

353 Redbanzai, that moment was in a Punisher comic. But it was from the other point of view, e.i. it vindicated Castle.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 19, 2016 08:04 PM (VdICR)

354 Okay, "Lone Ranger" is God Awful.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 08:04 PM (x3MHz)

355 OM,

If they ever did make Moon IAHM , they would destroy it like they did in that hellish nightmare that was falsely labelled 'Starship Troopers'.

Posted by: Mortimer at March 19, 2016 08:05 PM (7wqb3)

356 I'd love to see the story that contains a character of the corrupt bureaucrat shitting all over the Constitution.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 19, 2016 07:59 PM (5p18q)

I don't have TV anymore, but recently on Netflix I started watching Person of Interest. It kind of sort of fits the description of what you are looking for.

Posted by: HTL at March 19, 2016 08:06 PM (gZMDg)

357 256 "and the Marx Brothers"

I was late to appreciate the Marx Bros. I admit it. I was wrong.

Peanuts to you!

Posted by: richard mcenroe at March 19, 2016 08:07 PM (Kucy5)

358 >>>chemjeff

tom selleck doesn't dilly-dally around,
and the character isn't a total law and order type guy.
(not pc)

when he shoots someone it tends to be a head shot.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 19, 2016 08:07 PM (ceWrl)

359 I had the flu recently, and the stunning lack of anything to watch on TV was amazing. I would have gladly watched anything half-way entertaining, but there was almost nothing to be had.

There is only so much cooking I can watch.

***

About a third of my viewing time is spent watching cartoons at Cartoon Network/Adult Swim.

It started during the 2012 campaign season when I was so stressed out that I needed down time for my brain and my nerves. It stuck.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 19, 2016 08:07 PM (SEXy3)

360 "Peanuts to you!"

Didn't somebody already say that?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 08:08 PM (x3MHz)

361
And trolling ... and trolling...

Posted by: Mortimer at March 19, 2016 08:08 PM (7wqb3)

362 Posted by: redbanzai at March 19, 2016 08:01 PM (NPofj)

He was great because he was a frightening character. When he finally showed his violent side? Wow, crazy switch he can turn.

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at March 19, 2016 08:02 PM (R5HRU)

In my estimation he is one of the best character actors of his generation. I have been a fan since the 80's.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 19, 2016 08:11 PM (NPofj)

363 when he shoots someone it tends to be a head shot.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 19, 2016 08:07 PM (ceWrl)

Parker's book main characters are remarkably angst free!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 08:11 PM (wYnyS)

364 the whole tom selleck "jesse stone" series is good.
he plays a really dark character that has lots of firepower and shoots to kill all the bad guys. he also sleeps with lots of chicks. and drinks.

they're old, but they do marathons every once in awhile.

my favorite line (after he'd pulled over some asshat) was:

"this is my town. there's no dashcam in the cruiser to protect you so you can toy with the Constitution"

Posted by: concrete girl at March 19, 2016 07:46 PM (ceWrl)

The Jesse Stone series is also one of my favorites, although it isn't that old. Started in 2005, and the most recent one came out late last year. There's also another one in production. CBS bailed on their end of the production deal, not because of bad ratings but because it wasn't appealing to the "right" demographic. So now it's being made in partnership with the Hallmark Channel.

All are available for purchase on Amazon Prime, and once you own them, you can run your own marathon!

Posted by: HTL at March 19, 2016 08:13 PM (gZMDg)

365 Ben Hur is on TCM tomorrow night. It's worth watching just for the chariot race but even more for Hugh Griffith as the sheik. "It isn't generous." "Does it not delight the imagination." The man got all the best lines.

Posted by: JTB at March 19, 2016 08:15 PM (FvdPb)

366 Ok maybe I'm missing it but what show is the pic for this thread from?

Posted by: Farmer at March 19, 2016 08:15 PM (o/90i)

367 OT --- Wahoo-wah!!!! Virginia beats a very good Butler team.

My favorite TV show? Jeopardy.
Yep.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 19, 2016 08:16 PM (T/5A0)

368 NCAA Championships - Nolf vs Martinez up next

Both have 1 loss - to each other.
gonna be a good one...

Posted by: Mortimer at March 19, 2016 08:16 PM (7wqb3)

369
when he shoots someone it tends to be a head shot.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 19, 2016 08:07 PM (ceWrl)

Parker's book main characters are remarkably angst free!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 08:11 PM (wYnyS)

Spenser is easily in my top three literary detectives. I own all of the Spenser for Hire novels and have the movie series on bootleg DVD. (Note to any copyright enforcers who may read this comment: I would gladly spend coin of the realm on a non-bootleg DVD's if you would only release the damn thing for sale.)

Posted by: redbanzai at March 19, 2016 08:16 PM (NPofj)

370 Ok maybe I'm missing it but what show is the pic for this thread from?

***

Google search reveal it's just an image of a family watching tv. Likely a tv ad.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 19, 2016 08:17 PM (SEXy3)

371 366 Ok maybe I'm missing it but what show is the pic for this thread from?

Posted by: Farmer at March 19, 2016 08:15 PM (o/90i)

++++

Tin Eye says its from a show called Stock Photography.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 19, 2016 08:19 PM (R+30W)

372
How did 1986 become thirty years ago?

Posted by: cucumbah at March 19, 2016 08:19 PM (SmaR4)

373 Spenser is easily in my top three literary detectives. I own all of the Spenser for Hire novels and have the movie series on bootleg DVD. (Note to any copyright enforcers who may read this comment: I would gladly spend coin of the realm on a non-bootleg DVD's if you would only release the damn thing for sale.)
Posted by: redbanzai at March 19, 2016 08:16 PM (NPofj)

On that topic, will ABC ever release "Path to 9/11" on DVD? Maybe 10 years after Hilary has been assumed into Heaven?

Posted by: Josephistan at March 19, 2016 08:21 PM (7qAYi)

374
It's about 2/3rds along, but Midnight Run is on one of the STARZ channels. They're doing "the litmus configuration" right now.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: 'Who Decides?' at March 19, 2016 08:21 PM (BK3ZS)

375 Posted by: redbanzai at March 19, 2016 08:16 PM (NPofj)

Getting ready to read "Appaloosa" here, based on another Parker fans reco!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 08:22 PM (wYnyS)

376
When I was a little kid in the mid 70's, "thirty years ago" was the mid '40's! It was a completely different era.

1986 does not at all seem like a different era from today. We have nicer things, but it's the same old shit.

Posted by: cucumbah at March 19, 2016 08:22 PM (SmaR4)

377 July 4th scene in "The Great Escape" is awesome.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 08:22 PM (x3MHz)

378 Spenser is easily in my top three literary
detectives. I own all of the Spenser for Hire novels and have the ~~movie~~ TV
series on bootleg DVD. (Note to any copyright enforcers who may read
this comment: I would gladly spend coin of the realm on a non-bootleg
DVD's if you would only release the damn thing for sale.)

Posted by: redbanzai at March 19, 2016 08:16 PM (NPofj)

FIFM

Posted by: redbanzai at March 19, 2016 08:24 PM (NPofj)

379 wooooo!

what a match!

Posted by: Mortimer at March 19, 2016 08:27 PM (7wqb3)

380
A really old show that's still good is The Life And Legend Of Wyatt Earp (1955).

Hugh O'Brian, the actor who plays Earp, is handsome and cool. The actor who plays Doc Holliday is a mean, angry jerk who steals every scene he's in.

Another good old serial is Have Gun, Will Travel.

Posted by: cucumbah at March 19, 2016 08:28 PM (SmaR4)

381 Best post on any site that I've seen in months. Thanks.

Posted by: Guy Who Thinks Things are Worse than Hitler at March 19, 2016 08:30 PM (GOGi1)

382
Hugh O'Brian is still alive, btw. He turns 91 next month...and he's still acting!

Posted by: cucumbah at March 19, 2016 08:31 PM (SmaR4)

383 How did 1986 become thirty years ago?

Posted by: cucumbah at March 19, 2016 08:19 PM (SmaR4)

Just think of it this way. The people entering college today were 3 years old when 9/11 happened.

Posted by: AD at March 19, 2016 08:31 PM (vE4DM)

384 On that topic, will ABC ever release "Path to 9/11" on DVD? Maybe 10 years after Hilary has been assumed into Heaven?
Posted by: Josephistan at March 19, 2016 08:21 PM (7qAYi)

No, because Harvey Keitel is a little pussy who doesn't want to upset the Clintons.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 08:32 PM (P5x6u)

385 Google search reveal it's just an image of a family watching tv. Likely a tv ad.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 19, 2016 08:17 PM

TY NDH. I thought I missed something and was daft. So I've missed nothing and am still daft. Cheers, click!

Posted by: Farmer at March 19, 2016 08:32 PM (o/90i)

386 Really?

I thought the arguing thread earlier was sublime.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 08:32 PM (x3MHz)

387 try not to watch network tv. nothing on. usually sling, netflix, or youtube. fuck those network assholes.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 19, 2016 08:34 PM (ucDmr)

388
TY NDH. I thought I missed something and was daft. So I've missed nothing and am still daft. Cheers, click!

***

YW.

I'm using Chrome, so if I right click on the image, I can ask Google to search for it. I don't know if that can be done with other browsers.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 19, 2016 08:34 PM (SEXy3)

389 try not to watch network tv. nothing on. usually sling, netflix, or youtube. fuck those network assholes.

***

I really like Blackish. It reminds me of the Bernie Mac show. I haven't watched anything on ABC since their revolting abortion-set-to-Silent Night episode of Scandal.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 19, 2016 08:36 PM (SEXy3)

390 Just think of it this way. The people entering college today were 3 years old when 9/11 happened.

Posted by: AD

Wow. That's depressing.

Posted by: Yip at March 19, 2016 08:37 PM (e7T6D)

391 389: NDH, sorry never watched it. I am narrow minded and extremely racist!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 19, 2016 08:38 PM (ucDmr)

392 Granite Flats

Posted by: commonsensemom at March 19, 2016 08:39 PM (7t7Nl)

393 On Saturday, you argue whatever. One day only. COBs rangle. If anything you say musters any result, okay. If not, shut up.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 08:40 PM (x3MHz)

394 is brian ross still flinging monkey shit against the wall for abc? what a freaking stooge.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 19, 2016 08:42 PM (ucDmr)

395 Slow night.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 08:43 PM (x3MHz)

396 Planned Parenthood endorses Judge Garland

Posted by: James T Kirk at March 19, 2016 08:46 PM (e8kgV)

397 Off topic, perhaps, but for music fans Andrew Loomis died of cancer on March 8. He was the drummer in Dead Moon and was 54 years old..

RIP

Posted by: jbarntt at March 19, 2016 08:46 PM (hZo0w)

398

Funny you should post this, Oregon Muse, since I was pondering this very thing earlier today whilst noticing the subtleties of a Bud Lite commercial, specifically the preponderance of the color blue, which also just happens to be really close to the color the MFM uses to identify the Dim party.

Anyway, there are two very power things going on with regard to the overarching messages being conveyed to the American Public:

1: They're being told that they're smarter and more wonderful than ever before in the history of history. Everyone is above average.

And

2. They're being fed nothing but bullshit.

This is a dangerous combination. We are approaching Peak Idiocracy at a frighteningly fast rate.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 19, 2016 08:49 PM (LUgeY)

399 "ndorses Judge Garland"

Fcuk him, if I may be the first.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 08:50 PM (x3MHz)

400 Dont forget the homeless which is worse now than ever before.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 19, 2016 07:37 PM (iQIUe)

There are whole homeless settlements under just about every overpass in Chicago. Dozens of people living right there on the sidewalk with blankets and all. And I've never seen so many people on the streets begging. But it's never been better comrades.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2016 08:51 PM (45oDG)

401 Literally every street corner in downtown Philly has a homeless person begging there.

Posted by: Josephistan at March 19, 2016 08:54 PM (7qAYi)

402 Speaking of DVD series.

I heard once that WKRP was tied up in litigation hell and would never see the light of day on disc.

Pleasant surprise! Amazon has the complete series for 60 bucks.

One for the list.

Posted by: Mortimer at March 19, 2016 08:54 PM (7wqb3)

403 Yeah, we both enjoy the "Jesse Stone" movies.
Moody, maybe even darkish, but with a lot of positive moments, and justice (if not law) always wins in the end ....
The theme music often earworms me in a good way for days at a time.
And his carry piece is a 1911, for bonus points !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at March 19, 2016 08:54 PM (gUoN4)

404 Thanks for the firefly suggestion, I may start that.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at March 19, 2016 08:55 PM (hipNa)

405 400...I a republican is elected it will be an instant disaster

Posted by: Beto Ochoa (@Beto_In_Austin) at March 19, 2016 08:55 PM (hCdMd)

406 Evening all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 19, 2016 08:55 PM (DUoqb)

407 396 Planned Parenthood endorses Judge Garland
Posted by: James T Kirk at March 19, 2016 08:46 PM (e8kgV)

You would have thought they'd be smarter than that. They're making it easy.

Posted by: AD at March 19, 2016 08:58 PM (vE4DM)

408 396 Planned Parenthood endorses Judge Garland

And the GOP Congress funded them.
And around it goes...

Posted by: Mortimer at March 19, 2016 08:59 PM (7wqb3)

409 I a republican is elected it will be an instant disaster

Posted by: Beto Ochoa (@Beto_In_Austin) at March 19, 2016 08:55 PM (hCdMd)

They will all magically become visible to the MFM.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2016 09:00 PM (45oDG)

410
I think the only major network tv show I watch now is Sleepy Hollow. I gave up on Person Of Interest because it's stupid and leftist.

Person Of Interest can't decide if it's anti-government or Big Government. It seems to like Big Intrusive Government and special-op murder as long as the right people are in charge.

Posted by: cucumbah at March 19, 2016 09:01 PM (SmaR4)

411 There are whole homeless settlements under just about every overpass in Chicago. Dozens of people living right there on the sidewalk with blankets and all. And I've never seen so many people on the streets begging. But it's never been better comrades.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2016 08:51 PM (45oDG)

401 Literally every street corner in downtown Philly has a homeless person begging there.
Posted by: Josephistan at March 19, 2016 08:54 PM (7qAYi)

Don't worry. If a Republican is elected president, the MSM will instantly be filled with news reports about these miserable, unfortunate people and their wretched state, and how best to alleviate it.

And if a Democrat is elected, we will continue to hear not a word, and everything will go on being just peachy.

So it's win-win.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 19, 2016 09:01 PM (P5x6u)

412 402 --- IIRC, the big problem with WKRP was that so much original music was played on it. They had to sort out the bucks that had to be paid to everyone. And they had to substitute for certain songs, I think.
Something like that.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 19, 2016 09:03 PM (T/5A0)

413
The last good and arguably conservative tv serial on a major network was THE UNIT, which I am surprised hasn't been mentioned in this poat.

Posted by: cucumbah at March 19, 2016 09:03 PM (SmaR4)

414 QuietMan, omg, no joking .... A year or so ago I drove past maybe 16th and Ashland and there was a no-shit civilization set up under the (really deep) underpass there .... a running fire hydrant for fresh water, fires in barrels, lounge chairs and matresses everywhere .... just wow.
A real revelation to someone who has lived out in the cornfields the last decade or so ....

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at March 19, 2016 09:03 PM (gUoN4)

415 354
Okay, "Lone Ranger" is God Awful.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 08:04 PM (x3MHz)

Yes. Yes, it is. And Arne Hammer sucks as the Lone Ranger.

Posted by: Sixkiller at March 19, 2016 09:04 PM (szEUw)

416
Ben Hur is on TCM tomorrow night. It's worth watching just for the chariot race but even more for Hugh Griffith as the sheik. "It isn't generous." "Does it not delight the imagination." The man got all the best lines.
Posted by: JTB

As well as the Oscar for best supporting actor.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 19, 2016 09:05 PM (FkBIv)

417 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 19, 2016 09:06 PM (KCxzN)

418 Firefly could be libertarian because it was made during the awful Dark Ages of the Bush administration. If Joss Whedon were making it today, Malcolm Reynolds would be a loyal captain of the Alliance, and he and his ethnically, genderally, and orientationally diverse crew would be bringing the blessings of culture and civilization to all the 'flyover-country' planets of the 'Verse.

Posted by: Paul at March 19, 2016 09:07 PM (egEWw)

419 415 354
Okay, "Lone Ranger" is God Awful.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 08:04 PM (x3MHz)

Yes. Yes, it is. And Arne Hammer sucks as the Lone Ranger.
Posted by: Sixkiller

Yea, I never got through the first 15 minutes. Terrible movie. Johnny Depp sucks.

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 19, 2016 09:07 PM (NGd+i)

420
Does everyone remember when they resurrected WKRP? Quite forgettable yet it lasted two full seasons.

Posted by: cucumbah at March 19, 2016 09:08 PM (SmaR4)

421 I liked Justified starring Timothy Olyphant.

I like Vikings.

I like House of Cards, Longmire and enjoyed Breaking Bad.

Otherwise, football and baseball.

Oh, and Black Sails is decent.

Posted by: Sixkiller at March 19, 2016 09:08 PM (szEUw)

422 Pentagon Erroneously Withheld $78 Million From Combat Wounded Veterans Over 25 Years...

WZ

---

Color me shocked.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at March 19, 2016 09:09 PM (rlfds)

423 IIRC, the big problem with WKRP was that so much original music was
played on it. They had to sort out the bucks that had to be paid to
everyone. And they had to substitute for certain songs, I think

yeeeesh, Ms Rita.

Not sure I want to buy it if it is all chopped up.

Posted by: Mortimer at March 19, 2016 09:11 PM (7wqb3)

424 Wow. Ohio State 11 seed.

Big upset.

Posted by: Mortimer at March 19, 2016 09:12 PM (7wqb3)

425 I like Gotham a lot. No idea what its political leanings are but its dark and moody. I like that. Plus, Moreena Baccarin.

The Magicians is growing on me (SyFy). The last episode got REALLY dark. Plus, good grief the gals on that show are smoking hot.

Posted by: Puddleglum at March 19, 2016 09:12 PM (NGd+i)

426 ont up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 19, 2016 09:12 PM (SEXy3)

427
Joss Whedon is listed as writer for 5 of the 14 episodes, so almost a third of the conent. My understanding is that Tim Minear leans more libertarian in his political beliefs and he was the show-runner for "Firefly".
J.K. Rowling of the "Harry Potter" books fame is a noted socialist in her political beliefs, butshe wrote "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix". Now she may have intended the government to be evil right wingers, but it didn't read that way to me. The governmental figures are "You don't need to know how to defend yourselves, evil wizards have all been banished and the government will take care of you."

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 19, 2016 09:16 PM (KlVdw)

428 I thought the arguing thread earlier was sublime.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 19, 2016 08:32 PM (x3MHz)

No it wasn't!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2016 09:18 PM (wYnyS)

429 #330 Zootopia is barking lefty but well made and very funny.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 19, 2016 09:20 PM (vsSOK)

430 Planned Parenthood endorses Judge Garland

And the GOP Congress funded them.
And around it goes...

Posted by: Mortimer at March 19, 2016 08:59 PM (7wqb3)

And Trump thinks they are wonderful... He has said so at several debates.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 19, 2016 09:34 PM (NPofj)

431 Closing lines of an Outer Limits episode I'm watching on Hulu:

A great American has been killed in the service of his country. Now it is the job of those who continue to serve to carry on, guarding our freedom with dignity, and unrelenting vigilance.

Posted by: iforgot at March 19, 2016 09:38 PM (5o5ek)

432 Posted by: Darth Randall at March 19, 2016 09:16 PM (KlVdw)

I think her leftism in the books is mainly against prejudice/classism, hence all the Mudblood stuff.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 19, 2016 09:50 PM (q1FtT)

433 We killed the DirecTV after only watching a couple episodes of "Justified".
We finally got a new digital TV and were able to stream stuff.
We binge-watched "Justified".
The wife streams GoT on her phone(WiFi)while on the treadmill.
We peek at "Person of Interest", and are watching "The Man In The High Castle" on Amazon Prime.
It's very different...

Posted by: ChrisP at March 19, 2016 10:08 PM (zZ850)

434 Oddly, all I could bring myself to watch today is the disaster porn Tornado Alley on the Weather Channel. I don't if it makes me feel better to see people worse off than me or I'm wallowing in the misery of others. Either way, it seems kind of wrong.

Posted by: Epobirs at March 19, 2016 10:17 PM (IdCqF)

435 I'd also like to mention Scorpion. This season the plots are more fun, plus they turn various liberal cliches on their head. Like one episode, the girl goes under cover at a sorority and is all "what a bunch of white beeyotches" and then they school her on how nice it is to have a sort-of home since they left their own, and she could enjoy it too if she would let her armor down a little.

So yeah, I recommend Scorpion.

Also, Walking Dead is my favorite. Dares to have adults acting in heroic struggles.

Get Sleeper Cell on DVD for an early anti-terrorist, anti-left gem.

Posted by: PJ at March 19, 2016 11:00 PM (cHuNI)

436 Take a look,at Jane the Virgin.

Posted by: Sdsali at March 19, 2016 11:38 PM (P0knH)

437 Whedon gave an interview on Firefly over a decade ago where he's quoted saying "Mal is, if not a Republican, certainly a libertarian, he's certainly a
less-government kinda guy. He's the opposite of me in many ways." So, he was conscious of the show having a libertarian element. Also, Tim Minear (the series co-creator) is a libertarian.

Mike Judge shows (like King of the Hill and Silicon Valley) are often kind of conservative.

I wouldn't call it a conservative show, but this was a nice moment from the UK series Peep Show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D1gJ_GygAIt=1m31s

Posted by: reform highlander at March 19, 2016 11:58 PM (xf3KI)

438 Breaking Bad is pretty apolitical, but Vince Gilligan, the series creator, is conservative. Also, BB and Better Call Saul do have a bit of a conservative vibe to them, in the sort of world they depict. The shows have sort of a Mike Rowe-like obsession with real, non-yuppy work, most of the characters are uncool, middle-aged, middle class, usually married. Basically, they're as far away as you can get from the world of 30-something singles who sleep around a lot and never do anything that looks like a real job that has become a staple of sitcoms since at least Friends.

Posted by: reform highlander at March 20, 2016 12:09 AM (xf3KI)

439 Nice post. Late to the party (hopefully not so late that I get banned as a spammer) so I didn't read all the comments. "Shark Tank," definitely. "Scorpion," too.

I'll add the sitcom "black-ish" to the list, despite their devoting an episode to why black people always vote for Democrats. (The reason: They just do; always have.) The show focuses on an upper-middle-class black family with married parents, four kids, and the grandfather and sometimes grandmother - the grandparents are divorced.

It seems that one of the themes every week is that hard work and merit are the ways to advance.

The show is also quite funny so I recommend it. A sample: The MLK Day episode. The wife, a medical doctor, kept air-quoting "Doctor" King. When called on it, she explained that it's not like he was a real doctor. "If you have a heart attack, I can use a defibrillator and save your life, or you can get a Ph.D. to say a few fancy words, put a book on your chest and hope for the best."

Posted by: FireHorse at March 20, 2016 07:31 AM (G3gFP)

440 I wouldn't say this makes the show conservative, but House of Cards paints successful Democrats as morally bankrupt criminals. Progressives who have their hearts in the right place and are trying to do what Hollywod leftists would consider the right thing are almost universally depicted as impotent less because of Republican opposition than because of the personal ambitions of more powerful progs.

Republicans and conservatives are openly depicted as being the champions of bad ideas, but it's the Democrats who are shown to be destructive.

Posted by: AndyN at March 20, 2016 07:33 AM (Z5QDT)

441 "76
Deutschland 1983. Shows how paranoid and delusional the "Osties" were in that time. Season 2 coming up."

FANTASTIC show, even Auf Deutsch, subtitles helpful with vergessen Pidgeon-German.

I was in High School in Germany in the 80s (brat) and the feel of that show where it intersects with my experiences (vibe, global tension, musik) is spot on.

Posted by: Manager, Clock - SELF-WINDING at March 20, 2016 09:16 AM (mZS3c)

442 I always watch A Bug's Life on April 15.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at March 20, 2016 10:47 AM (lRzs3)

443 You missed the MOST CONSERVATIVE show on all of TV, it's called The Middle. It's a show about a normal, middle American family living in small-town Indiana. It portrays a traditional family -- father, mother, and 3 kids. The show treats the family members respectfully and the characters are smart, good people. Patricia Heaton is fantastic (and she's an outspoken conservative in real life). Best of all, the show is hilarious!

Posted by: J. Burleson at March 20, 2016 12:03 PM (UgNXt)

444 "Swamp Loggers" vanished without any explanation from the Discovery Channel after three strong seasons, the last show airing in January 2012. It had everything --- southern white, black and Mexican workers doing a tough job with used equipment under difficult conditions, succeeding chiefly due to their own self-taught seat-of-the-pants innovation, tenacious determination and sheer can-do work ethic. It also showed that local government red tape could be as formidable an obstacle as bog, kudzu and quicksand.

The article announcing the cancellation told you everything you needed to know about the tough, bright, born-again Christian and fourth-generation logger who heads this determined crew:

"Bobby Goodson, owner of Goodson's All Terrain Logging, the business on which the show is based, said ... he was surprised but not upset.

" 'We've been hearing that we were going to come back,' he said. 'But it really doesn't matter. I think the Lord had to do with it anyway. I think if he wanted to let it go on, he'd let it go on.'

"It's easier working without the film crew around, he added..."

"As for the future, Goodson said he would continue running the logging company and was unsure whether he'd be back in show business.

" 'I don't know,' he said. 'I hadn't really thought a whole lot about it. I've got a lot of stuff going.' "

I guess hard-won success is a hard sell in America these days.

Posted by: Fred Baumann at March 20, 2016 03:02 PM (n0/+V)

445 I have to admit to occasionally watching NCIS when I have some free time even though it is not as good as it was in the past (IMHO I know). Pretty hooked on Elementary, which is really not a conservative show, but not really a liberal show either- however it does tend to be very anti-big business at times. Was very excited when Netflix picked up Longmire- contemporary Western set in Wyoming. Longmire reminds me of a throwback TV show- slower paced with lots of characterizations and very dependent on location. The lead character, Sheriff Longmire, is not perfect by any means, but has a strong moral compass. Started streaming Person of Interest on some strong recommendations and am liking it so far. There are bad guys and good guys and the idea that one makes choices and deals with the consequences. Interesting to read everyone else's comments- may have to try some of the other shows discussed.

Posted by: Charlotte at March 20, 2016 05:22 PM (/ovCX)

446 StarGate SG-1
Very pro-Military. Proper Pro-Ordinary Grunt Let-Us-Do-Our-Job Military, takes potshots at brass and the politicals regularly.
The woman of the team was once voted best female role model in SciFi. And it shows, Doctor and Officer. In 10 seasons there are maybe 2-3 episodes where it's even mentioned she's a woman. No feminism here. She's not one of the guys, she's a member of the team.
The Token Black-Guy, ain't a token.

Watch it and see how much Liberalism is NOT there. It's refreshing. It doesn't really -push- Conservatism...it's just there.

Posted by: KeaponLaffin at March 20, 2016 08:16 PM (V0QXB)

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