Video Emerges of Corey Landowski Yanking Michelle Fields, Like She Says; Trump World Claims, Fantastically, Vindication

The "vindication" apparently is based on the idea that this isn't such a big deal. She wasn't "thrown to the ground."

But she never claimed she was thrown to the ground. She claimed she was jerked and almost thrown to the ground, but recovered her balance. Washington Post Brian Terris has always said the same: That she was grabbed, and then stumbled due to it.

But on Megyn Kelly last week, Trump spokeswoman Katrina Peirson kept shifting the defense to the claim that Michelle Fields had never been "thrown to the ground." Megyn Kelly repeatedly told her that Fields never claimed to have been thrown to the ground; the most she said was that there was an attempt to do so. But she always said: She kept her feet.

Meanwhile, Corey Landowski denied having "touched" Fields at all, and called her "delusional."

Well, now comes the video, as we always knew it would, showing what sure looks like Landowski grabbing Fields, and then Fields stumbling due to the yank.

In the video, you see Lewandowski pass in front her. Fields reacts, dips down slightly, and turns toward him. At the end of the clip, you can see his arm releasing her. No, she doesn't fall. But she never claimed that she did. In fact, the video corroborates that she was grabbed, and her picture of the bruises corroborates that he grabbed her hard enough to hurt her. It certainly wasn't an extreme act of violence, but it was worth apologizing for, and that is all Fields says she wanted.

And... so of course Trump World is claiming this always proves they were 100% right when they were claiming the 100% opposite.

And thus, as with Bill Clinton and the Dress, the defense moves from "never happened, she's a delusional stalker" to "come on, it's no big deal."

Meanwhile, Trump and Lowandowski's utter refusal to simply say "I saw someone coming quickly, I acted too hastily and grabbed her, I apologize" has now completely melted down Trump's only media ally, Breitbart.

Trump would rather burn down an ally than have his campaign manager confess to have briefly, wrongly grabbed a girl trying to ask Trump a question.

So, yeah, would-be Trump allies like the GOP, conservative movement, or immigration-restrictionist movement: I'd be super-eager to sign up to march under Trump's banner. I'm sure it will all turn out well for you. He'll definitely have your back when you need him too.

Posted by: Ace at 01:13 PM

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1 Well, hello world

Posted by: Sambo at March 14, 2016 01:14 PM (q7OLJ)

2 Hoo boy, this is gonna be a fun thread

Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2016 01:16 PM (NOIQH)

3 How about those Mets?

Posted by: MTF at March 14, 2016 01:17 PM (TxJGV)

4 I was going to, but can't even.

Posted by: Chupacabra at March 14, 2016 01:17 PM (CGjum)

5 Yeah, I don't have a fire suit thick enough to be here. Back to my crossword puzzle.

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 14, 2016 01:17 PM (RD7QR)

6 somehow i was expecting to see something more violent.

Posted by: A@A at March 14, 2016 01:17 PM (pchTP)

7 "I saw someone coming quickly, I acted too hastily and grabbed her, I apologize" has now completely melted down Trump's only media ally, Breitbart.

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Ace, I'd like to acquaint you with an obscure website called "The Drudge Report."

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 01:17 PM (LtQCz)

8 Fart in a whirlwind, ace. Much bigger issues out there.

Posted by: The Lizard, Ted Cruz at March 14, 2016 01:17 PM (SEFXb)

9 Those are not pillows!!

Posted by: Timon at March 14, 2016 01:17 PM (KSonr)

10 But still no thread on the elderly Trump supporter who was beat up by BLM thugs for having a Trump yard sign.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 14, 2016 01:17 PM (r9tFS)

11 is there a beat reporter, male or female that hasn't been pushed, shoved grabbed while trying to get a story or comment?

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at March 14, 2016 01:18 PM (0O7c5)

12 Ace likes to roll rhetorical grenades into his own tent. He's a little different than most leaders.

Posted by: MTF at March 14, 2016 01:18 PM (TxJGV)

13 Boy it's rainy here. Is it rainy where you guys are? Because...rain.

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 14, 2016 01:18 PM (RD7QR)

14 Ace, I'd like to acquaint you with an obscure website called "The Drudge Report."

Not to mention Gateway Pundit.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 14, 2016 01:18 PM (r9tFS)

15 "Trump acknowledged the question, but before he could answer I was jolted backwards. Someone had grabbed me tightly by the arm and yanked me down. I almost fell to the ground, but was able to maintain my balance. Nonetheless, I was shaken."

I'm not seeing a jolt, a yank down, or anybody almost falling to the ground.

Posted by: Jake at March 14, 2016 01:18 PM (FfwgN)

16 Want to buy a steak?

Posted by: Drumpf for President at March 14, 2016 01:18 PM (ls2n/)

17 Hot chicks are used to getting men to do what they want.

Posted by: redenzo at March 14, 2016 01:18 PM (WCnJW)

18 ""I saw someone coming quickly, I acted too hastily and grabbed her, I apologize" has now completely melted down Trump's only media ally, Breitbart."
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It's been a PR disaster from the beginning. Even if you KNOW that you're innocent, you don't go with a Carville/Blumenthal "nuts & sluts" defense. You wait for the truth to come out, because the truth is on your side.

Only when the truth isn't on your side do you need to distract everyone with a "nuts & sluts" defense.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 01:19 PM (NDVSb)

19 ace doubles down.

I welcome the escalation. Let's see a criminal court and a jury of peers review this footage and convict Corey for assault and battery.

Let's put all the information out there in the public, and let everyone decide if this is the final proof that the Trump campaign is a band of unelectable rogues.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 01:19 PM (uURQL)

20 Doesn't look like a "grabbed and yanked" either. She makes no facial or bodily expression at all that what happened was a big deal at all. He may have gripped her wrist forcefully but I didn't see nay yanking or loss of balance at all. Whether they own up to it or not this is lame.

Posted by: J Stevens at March 14, 2016 01:19 PM (KwHgL)

21 I mean, we need the rain. We'll have a nice green lawn this year. But boy, it's rainy.

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 14, 2016 01:19 PM (RD7QR)

22 11 is there a beat reporter, male or female that hasn't been pushed, shoved grabbed while trying to get a story or comment?

One has to wonder how the wilting flower Fields would have fared in that basement during the Lee Harvey Oswald prison transfer.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 14, 2016 01:19 PM (r9tFS)

23 I hate the modern political process.

It hit me during Nancy Reagan's funeral: we probably will never see a president with as much class and character as Ron again in our lifetimes.

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 14, 2016 01:19 PM (t06LC)

24 I see Ace is following through on his defiance of DST, the time stamp is what it should be before Sat night.

Posted by: flmomof4 at March 14, 2016 01:20 PM (bEXWJ)

25 Nothing to see here. This is probably a conspiracy like 9/11 and the Moon Landings. The truth is out there and Mr. Trump will be vindicated!!

Posted by: Trumpbot #7262616 at March 14, 2016 01:20 PM (ls2n/)

26 Are we still talking about this?

Really?

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 14, 2016 01:20 PM (LXJ1e)

27 I thought the video showed that he hardly touched her at all. IOW she is a liar.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 14, 2016 01:20 PM (t2KH5)

28 17 Hot chicks are used to getting men to do what they want.

She ain't even that hot. Just the rack, but the rack is enough I guess.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 14, 2016 01:20 PM (r9tFS)

29 They should have just surrounded Trump with a rope that nobody's allowed to cross.

Posted by: Chupacabra at March 14, 2016 01:20 PM (CGjum)

30 re: Trump = Violent Strongman Narrative
Status: Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 14, 2016 01:20 PM (R+30W)

31 I hate being in crowds for this very reason: people shove and I don't like being shoved. Since it's an occupational hazard of being a reporter, particularly when the leading candidate walks not two feet from you, I think this kerfuffle shows (mostly) that Michelle Fields should find a different job.

Posted by: MTF at March 14, 2016 01:20 PM (TxJGV)

32 So you guys seen any good movies?

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 14, 2016 01:21 PM (RD7QR)

33 Lowendowski is a made man with Trump. No disagreements and total admiration. He does exactly what Trump wants. As for the wider world we are just suckers waiting to be fleeced. Maybe the whole country will soon be living in Trump's Reality Distortion Field.

Posted by: DirtyJobsGuy at March 14, 2016 01:21 PM (YZbBp)

34 wow ace, going full retard on this are you.

Keep defending the attention whore calling this assault, Lol

Posted by: Manco at March 14, 2016 01:21 PM (Duizy)

35 and then Fields stumbling due to the yank.

Huh? I think I need another of those idiot highlight circles to catch the stumbling ... cause I just don't see it.

It also appears that my definition of "almost to the ground" is quite different than yours.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 14, 2016 01:21 PM (zc3Db)

36 Ace,

You know that all that's going to come out of this is that you've gone GOPe...happens to anyone that has the audacity to question their Donald.

Posted by: H Badger at March 14, 2016 01:21 PM (n/0Nw)

37 I no longer drink but if I did I'd make up a drinking game where I'd take a shot of scotch every time I see the word 'whore' in a Trump supporter's commentreferencing the Michelle Fields story.

Because that's howyou guys roll.

Posted by: troyriser at March 14, 2016 01:21 PM (UWlp+)

38 Can I take a break?

Posted by: The Chicken at March 14, 2016 01:21 PM (KWlog)

39 Bonds! Municipal bonds!

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 14, 2016 01:22 PM (RD7QR)

40 Is there anyone in this fustercluck that doesn't look like an ass?

Anyone at all?

The adults have clearly vacated the premises.

Ye gods, are we f*cked.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 14, 2016 01:22 PM (9krrF)

41

I'm not seeing a jolt, a yank down, or anybody almost falling to the ground.

Her facial expression never changes either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NoMPxomjiw&feature=youtu.be

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 14, 2016 01:23 PM (LUgeY)

42 Ain't nothin' wrong with tossing around females. My fans love me for it.

Posted by: Chris Brown at March 14, 2016 01:23 PM (ls2n/)

43
Trump WILL MAKE GRABBING WOMEN GREAT AGAIN!

Posted by: Ed Anger at March 14, 2016 01:23 PM (RcpcZ)

44 Even if you KNOW that you're innocent, you don't go with a Carville/Blumenthal "nuts & sluts" defense.

If you are genuinely wronged, you reach out in private and then escalate if necessary. The evidence so far indicates that that step was skipped, and the offense is trivial at best.

Going straight to a public media accusation was an act of bad faith and an attack. A public attacks is responded to in kind, and Trump's response a plus to Trump supporters.

If he fights the trivial things, we can trust he will also fight on the bigger issues.

Now that trust may be misplaced ... Trump may fold like a house of cards once in office ... but the very qualities decried here WRT Fields is evidence against him being an empty suit.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 01:23 PM (uURQL)

45 When I said that republicans were gonna put colored folks back in chains, I didn't mean CHAIN chains.

I was speaking metaphonically.

God you people are morans.

Posted by: Big Joe Biden at March 14, 2016 01:23 PM (M1Eq2)

46 One word: plastics.

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 14, 2016 01:23 PM (RD7QR)

47 It's not the crime, it's the coverup. Ace never said it was a brutal grap-and-yank, just that it was enough to warrant an acknowledgment and apology. That Team Trump would rather melt down a friendly news out than do that more pittance tells you a lot.

Posted by: Steves28 at March 14, 2016 01:23 PM (Ory8r)

48 I don't actually care much about this story. A reporter getting grabbed or shoved by some campaign official is... well, it's just not that serious. As Ace said, and apology would do. And even if the incident was more serious than that, it doesn't reflect on Trump directly.

But the way the campaign and Trump's idiot followers have handled this has been appalling. You're falling all over yourselves to trash the reputation and ruin the life of a reporter... and for what? For some guy you'll never meet? For some campaign manager? For *Wales*?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 01:23 PM (LtQCz)

49 So she was jostled in a crowd.

I had the same experience getting out of church yesterday. I also bruise easily. And no, I have no intention of voting for Trump.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at March 14, 2016 01:24 PM (DLIpz)

50 Eh,

I have no dog in this fight. I actually believed the worst about this guy here. You can't tell how hard he grabbed her, but this doesn't look that bad here.

Douche should have issued an apology though. I question the tactics. Brietbart has been full Trump for awhile. I guess being Donald means never having to say you're sorry.

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 14, 2016 01:24 PM (t06LC)

51 Nice to see the pro-rape trump fans coming out in the comments here.

Sharia for me but not for thee, amirite?

Posted by: therewego at March 14, 2016 01:24 PM (rGHQe)

52 Give me a break. It's like Groundhog Day around here.

Read up on Naomi Nover. Then come back and tell me about how this was "assault" or proof of some evil intent.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2016 01:24 PM (O0lVq)

53 Trump hates puppies.

Posted by: Anti-Trumpbot #7262617 at March 14, 2016 01:24 PM (FkBIv)

54 It also appears that my definition of "almost to the ground" is quite different than yours.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 14, 2016 01:21 PM (zc3Db)

I can see you staring at the screen: pause/play, pause/play, pause/play like it's the Zapruderclip of the Kennedy assassination.

And all the guy had to do was apologize.

Posted by: troyriser at March 14, 2016 01:24 PM (UWlp+)

55 Resume enhancer for her. Stubbornness for him. It could have all been finished in seconds if they wanted.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at March 14, 2016 01:25 PM (l/HJc)

56 jerked and nearly raped.

Posted by: granola gaye at March 14, 2016 01:25 PM (oEq2J)

57 A reporter who reports something notable at an event she was assigned to report on? Must be attention-whoring.

Everyone knows that the job of a reporter is to keep their mouths shut regarding anything which might displease Dear Leader.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 14, 2016 01:25 PM (6cpOj)

58 That does it. Now Hillary is going to get all of the "falling down" votes.

Posted by: Roy at March 14, 2016 01:25 PM (VndSC)

59 The goalpost moved? What goalpost? I don't even know what a goalpost is. I've never heard of that word.

Posted by: Trump at March 14, 2016 01:25 PM (5wiU6)

60 Breitbart is not the only media ally Trump has. Drudge has jumped the shark in his attacks on Ted Cruz. It's pretty sad actually.

Posted by: B-Rock at March 14, 2016 01:25 PM (7Sht4)

61 Trumpkins, its not the actual act that gets you, its the cover up.

If its not a big deal, then apologizing is not a big deal.

Remember, Trump will hire the best advisers, just like he hand picked the professors of his university.

Posted by: Harun at March 14, 2016 01:26 PM (UBBWX)

62 I'm Nick Danger, Third Eye.

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 14, 2016 01:26 PM (RD7QR)

63 32
So you guys seen any good movies?

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 14, 2016 01:21 PM (RD7QR)
London has fallen was my latest watch. It was good fun.

Posted by: IC at March 14, 2016 01:26 PM (a0IVu)

64 By all means continue to post about this this daily. This is the most important scandal since Watergate.

Posted by: CK at March 14, 2016 01:26 PM (pLYYp)

65 >>> Doesn't look like a "grabbed and yanked" either.

except for the photograph of the bruises on her harm from a man's fingers.

Posted by: ace at March 14, 2016 01:26 PM (dciA+)

66 And all the guy had to do was apologize.

Posted by: troyriser at March 14, 2016 01:24 PM (UWlp+)

Apologize for what? For being accused of manhandling her and yanking her "almost to the ground"?

I don't think so.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 14, 2016 01:26 PM (zc3Db)

67 I agree. Trump definitely won't have our back when we need him. I'll vote for a contested convention and a debacle in Cleveland because of Fields' mild facial expression in that video.

I feel at peace.

Posted by: Equal Pay for All! at March 14, 2016 01:26 PM (T01Xq)

68 If she were "yanked" in such a way as to leave bruises on her arm then shouldn't there have appeared a noticeable grimace on her face during the "owie!" ?? I notice no change in facial expression whatsoever. And I don't even see a stumble or a near fall-down.

I keep looking for this horrible physical infraction, I just have never seen it.

And she uses the OMG?? This girl totally has the vapours and needs a fainting couch.

Posted by: FredB at March 14, 2016 01:26 PM (mkgf1)

69 @27 Agree with Vic. I'm an 'Ette and have experienced more direct, unwanted, and aggressive physical contact on the subway, at my kids' sporting events.

Posted by: Cursed at March 14, 2016 01:26 PM (7Kq2e)

70 How do we know the tape wasn't doctored?

Posted by: Infowars at March 14, 2016 01:26 PM (ls2n/)

71 I'm getting my water heater replaced today. It'll be nice to be able to take a shower again.

Posted by: rickl at March 14, 2016 01:26 PM (sdi6R)

72 I'm becoming very iffy on Trump. But this latest and greatest video is a big, fat, juicy nothing burger.

Posted by: Carol Shelby at March 14, 2016 01:26 PM (NnS0Q)

73 i guess trump's position on this, like his position on H1-B visas, is changing before our eyes.

Posted by: ace at March 14, 2016 01:27 PM (dciA+)

74 The Uni-Party and the media have worked together for years to destroy the future for my grand children. When I say I want to burn it down, I fucking mean it. These types of things are what burning it down looks like. I do not care about her bruises. What about the media lies, distortions and fraud that have allowed and encouraged the rape of America. Where is the video of that?

Posted by: Sgt. Fury at March 14, 2016 01:27 PM (8b2u+)

75 If you saw this video, with absolutely no story around it, would you even notice anything?

Posted by: Tami at March 14, 2016 01:27 PM (v0/PR)

76 If you are genuinely wronged, you reach out in private and then escalate if necessary.

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Yeah, that sounds like the totally classy approach encouraged by Donald J. Trump. Someone wrongs you, so you privately reach out, with kindness.

And because Fields didn't do unto Donald as she would have him do unto her, she's a whore and a liar.

You don't actually believe a word of what you wrote, do you?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 01:27 PM (NDVSb)

77 damn yankers

Posted by: Roy at March 14, 2016 01:27 PM (VndSC)

78 Lara Logan knows a little something about an "assault" on a reporter.

Michelle Fields, not so much.

Hey, how about that time Fields accused the NYPD of roughing her up while covering OWS?

Until video showed her tripping over her own two feet.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 14, 2016 01:27 PM (r9tFS)

79 I see a grassy knoll.

How about somebody reset the time on the server?

Posted by: not mega machines, nope at March 14, 2016 01:27 PM (fbovC)

80 Good, London Has Fallen. How about something I can take the wife to see?

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 14, 2016 01:27 PM (RD7QR)

81 ...these silly women and their silly complaints -- I'll show you how to properly manhandle these women!

Posted by: Capt. James T Kirk at March 14, 2016 01:27 PM (INxoa)

82 Michelle "Allen West and Seth McFarlane are my love slaves" initially said she didn't know "who arm drag suplexed me"...

of course at first it was also "I almost lost my balance"...

and her exhortations "I do not want to be the story" seem to be a recurring theme assuming you can find her and she has not gone underground avoiding the NYPD

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 01:27 PM (g8Hfr)

83 *a man's fingers*

If it had been my fingers we wouldn't have this indecisiveness. I have the biggest, classiest hands anyone has seen. And my third hand is pretty classy too, if ya get my drift.

Posted by: Trump Vodka at March 14, 2016 01:27 PM (ls2n/)

84 Boy. It's like WWF only without chairs.

Hillary leaves four Americans to be murdered in Libya.

But you know, that Trump and his manhandlers. They are going to be really bad for America. It's like the Nazi's- only worse.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2016 01:27 PM (O0lVq)

85 BACK AND TO HER LEFT PEOPLE!

BACK!

AND TO HER LEFT!

Posted by: Alex Jones at March 14, 2016 01:28 PM (CbGSW)

86 I'm so glad I never jumped on the Trump train and declared my inability to vote for the man in any election months before #AlwaysRubio...I mean #NeverTrump came into being.

If he does win the nomination, I'm voting Libertarian. My wife, who hates Hillary, will vote for Clinton over Trump.

But yeah...Trump is expanding the tent.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 14, 2016 01:28 PM (FdQL3)

87 Posted by: Manco at March 14, 2016 01:21 PM (Duizy)

There's a bit of jism in the corner of your mouth. You might want to clean up a bit better next time.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 14, 2016 01:28 PM (Zu3d9)

88 I'm Nick Danger, Third Eye.

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 14, 2016 01:26 PM (RD7QR)

Awesome cultural reference. I played Firesign Theater for my kids several years ago, when they were teenagers We laughed until our sides hurt.

Posted by: troyriser at March 14, 2016 01:28 PM (UWlp+)

89 Nice to see the pro-rape trump fans coming out in the comments here.

Corey RAPED Fields.

LISTEN and BELIEVE!

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 01:28 PM (uURQL)

90 >>>Trumpkins, its not the actual act that gets you, its the cover up.

If its not a big deal, then apologizing is not a big deal.

...

yeah, they have to keep changing the defense. and why? because this was entirely created by Trump. all she wanted was an apology (and she was keeping it private at that point).

instead, they decided to call her "delusional."

Posted by: ace at March 14, 2016 01:28 PM (dciA+)

91 10 Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 14, 2016 01:17 PM (r9tFS)

everyone knows that when democrats do evil it is b/c "greater good"..

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 01:28 PM (g8Hfr)

92 Fields wrote

Trump acknowledged the question, but before he could answer I was jolted backwards. Someone had grabbed me tightly by the arm and yanked me down. I almost fell to the ground, but was able to maintain my balance. Nonetheless, I was shaken.

I see no "jolt backwards". I see no "yanked me down". I see no "almost fell to the ground".

None of these things happened.

Posted by: ThunderB at March 14, 2016 01:28 PM (zOTsN)

93 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnMAMjhqpyM
i'm still upset about the press photographer pushing bernie maddoff

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at March 14, 2016 01:28 PM (0O7c5)

94 scrum rugbyan
ordered formation of players, used to restart play, in which the
forwards of a team form up with arms interlocked and heads down, and
push forward against a similar group from the opposing side. The ball is
thrown into the scrum and the players try to gain possession of it by
kicking it backward toward their own side.

Posted by: DaveA at March 14, 2016 01:29 PM (DL2i+)

95 79 I see a grassy knoll.

How about somebody reset the time on the server?
Posted by: not mega machines, nope at March 14, 2016 01:27 PM (fbovC)

Dude, it was totally gay fascists from New Orleans. Wake up sheeple!!

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 14, 2016 01:29 PM (RD7QR)

96 84 Boy. It's like WWF only without chairs.

Hillary leaves four Americans to be murdered in Libya.

But you know, that Trump and his manhandlers. They are going to be really bad for America. It's like the Nazi's- only worse.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2016 01:27 PM (O0lVq)

=============

As Ace already said, it's not the action, it's the utter inability to step back and say, "Oops...that was dumb" by anyone in the Trump organization.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 14, 2016 01:29 PM (FdQL3)

97 It depends on what the meaning of 'grab" is... It was more like a friendly " nudge." yeah that's it... Oh, and the bitch had it coming!'''

Donald Clinton trump...

Posted by: donna at March 14, 2016 01:29 PM (/dSsq)

98 Why should they have to apologize every time some fucking crackpot makes ridiculous accusations? They would just be overloaded with ridiculous accusations and apologizing non-stop which would make them look weak.

They were fucking right not to give into this scrunts hysterics and the whining of her pussy ass boyfriend and then all the little bitches like ace who rushed to defend her.

Waiting for all the facts to come in they were vindicated, and those who rushed to hysterical judgement look like assholes and chumps, ace.

Posted by: Manco at March 14, 2016 01:29 PM (Duizy)

99 Watching Ace troll the Trumpkins is immensely satisfying.

Posted by: Matty at March 14, 2016 01:29 PM (+ULpH)

100 It must be tough living in NYC, surrounded by people who despise anyone associated with the GOP, much less Donald Trump.

Posted by: mrp at March 14, 2016 01:29 PM (JBggj)

101 >>>>>"Trump acknowledged the question, but before he could answer I was
jolted backwards. Someone had grabbed me tightly by the arm and yanked
me down. I almost fell to the ground, but was able to maintain my
balance. Nonetheless, I was shaken."

I'm not seeing a jolt, a yank down, or anybody almost falling to the ground.

.
.
.
I have to agree, after watching that video twice I didn't see any thing like what she said. It looks like possibly someone may have bumped her, or she stumbled slightly over something on the floor, but no where does it look like she was grabbed tightly or otherwise.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 14, 2016 01:29 PM (iONHu)

102 . . . and then, the Cheez Whiz!

Posted by: Hadoop at March 14, 2016 01:29 PM (2X7pN)

103 Those bruises on her arm did not come from that little thing on the film above. This woman does have a history of making shit up and it would not surprise me at all if those "bruises" were not self-inflicted" to support her story.

Either that or she is a "princess" who gets bruises through multiple mattresses from a pea.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 14, 2016 01:30 PM (t2KH5)

104
"Mrs. Fields and Principal Trump were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and then the baby looked at me."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 14, 2016 01:30 PM (kdS6q)

105 Perhaps I'm just blind, but no matter how many times I watch these videos, I fail to see what anybody is getting worked up about.

Posted by: Kenja Time at March 14, 2016 01:30 PM (PCgut)

106 >>>If you are genuinely wronged, you reach out in private and then escalate if necessary.

oh that's funny, because that's exactly what she did. She sat on this for 24 hours waiting for the apology that Lowandowski said would be coming, she says. But he never called.

Then the nasty tweets started.

Posted by: ace at March 14, 2016 01:30 PM (dciA+)

107 Pop quiz- who said this Ace?

>>"Any rational person responds to a change in circumstances. What's
changed? We've seen a whole number of employers abusing the program,"
Cruz, a frontrunner in the 2016 race, told CNN. "No. 1, bringing in
people who are not high-skilled, bringing in medium- and low-skilled
(information technology) workers and then firing American workers and,
adding insult to injury, forcing the American workers to train their
foreign replacements."<<

Let's not talk about H1B's- shall we.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2016 01:30 PM (O0lVq)

108 2012 - dog on the roof, dog on the roof, lookin' like a fool with yo dog on the roof.

2016 - hand on the arm, hand on the arm, lookin' like a fool with yo hand on the arm.

Posted by: Roy at March 14, 2016 01:30 PM (VndSC)

109 "yeah, they have to keep changing the defense. and why? because this was
entirely created by Trump. all she wanted was an apology (and she was
keeping it private at that point).

instead, they decided to call her "delusional.""

There is no cover up which is the funny thing. You're grasping at straws now because you were played by an attention whore, lol.

Posted by: Manco at March 14, 2016 01:30 PM (Duizy)

110 She endured that, next stop Ranger school.

Posted by: redenzo at March 14, 2016 01:30 PM (WCnJW)

111 She said she was grabbed from behind and didn't see who did it. In the clip, Lewandowski was not behind her; she had a clear view of him. And the video doesn't show ANYone touching her. In fact, when Lewandowski passes by her, she is not in the vicinity of Trump (her claim was that she was in mid-question when grabbed). Her facial expression doesn't change, as you would expect it to had she been grabbed and displaced. She doesn't appear to lose a single step as Lewandowski passes by. Previous photos show Lewandowski three or four feet from Fields with someone else in between. The video is two-dimensional, and does not allow seeing the gap (whatever it was or wasn't) between Fields and Lewandowski.

The video is captioned that the allegation is proved false, and it looks that way to me. It supports Fields' story only for someone determined to see it.

Posted by: Itchin' Like a Man on a Fuzzy Tree at March 14, 2016 01:30 PM (aeVIR)

112 Remember, you Trump-worshipping dopes: the initial defense from Trump's campaign was that Corey never touched her. That was a lie. A LIE.

One more time: Corey LIED.

Now you're saying "oh, he didn't touch her that hard" and "what's the big deal?" and "reporters get jostled all the time."

You're selling your souls to cover up for a liar? And for what?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 01:30 PM (mVjMU)

113 How about those Mets?
Posted by: MTF at March 14, 2016 01:17 PM (TxJGV)

WTH?!!!

ARE YOU (I) TRYING (/I) TO START A FIGHT?

Go Cards!

Posted by: Tbodie at March 14, 2016 01:30 PM (FrMyu)

114 Obama was "No drama Obama."

Trump is the opposite.

Posted by: Harun at March 14, 2016 01:31 PM (UBBWX)

115
>>> Doesn't look like a "grabbed and yanked" either.

except for the photograph of the bruises on her harm from a man's fingers.

Call me when there's a handprint on her ass.

Posted by: Ed Anger at March 14, 2016 01:31 PM (RcpcZ)

116 Breitbart has some serious issues with all of the resignations that have happened over this incident.

Too much inside baseball butthurt.

Posted by: Fritz at March 14, 2016 01:31 PM (37OkS)

117 I don't think so.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 14, 2016 01:26 PM (zc3Db)

You're minimizing. He grabbedFields hard enough to bruise her wrist.

Posted by: troyriser at March 14, 2016 01:31 PM (UWlp+)

118 @54: Apologize FOR WHAT?!

You need to go buy and read "SJWs Always Lie". An apology just brings out the hordes demanding more - the frenzy feeds on that.

Posted by: Jabari at March 14, 2016 01:31 PM (as4Qh)

119 There's this guy, and this guy, then bam . . .he grabs her!

Posted by: John Madden at March 14, 2016 01:31 PM (2X7pN)

120 BTW, if they guy had been an Obama campaign official this story would have never made it to press and certainly have not lived in everyone's brain for days and days.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 14, 2016 01:31 PM (t2KH5)

121 "oh that's funny, because that's exactly what she did. She sat on this
for 24 hours waiting for the apology that Lowandowski said would be
coming, she says. But he never called.

Then the nasty tweets started.
"

Bullshit, her boyfriend Jamie Weinstein tweeted about it almost as soon as it happened. Why are you just lying now ace?

Posted by: Manco at March 14, 2016 01:31 PM (Duizy)

122 37 Posted by: troyriser at March 14, 2016 01:21 PM (UWlp+)

I'm 15.5 or so years on the wagon myself Troy...

I'll slam a drink for every poster who ignores Ms Fields "interesting history" WRT "the truth" and attention-whoring...

She is the idiot who went full retard at Allen West...who has neither been charged nor made a settlement WRT her allegations.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 01:31 PM (g8Hfr)

123 10: "But still no thread on...."

You have the freedom to create your own blog and write whatever the hell you want.

This used to be such a nice place.

There is no troll like the concern troll.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at March 14, 2016 01:31 PM (z/vX9)

124 "What will it take to get Trump to apologize?" people ask.

"More than you got," is my reply. It isn't how he rolls, and seeing how far the Democrats have gotten not apologizing and instead brazening things out, I'm not sure that tactically he isn't wrong. Apologizing for mistakes and intentional slights hasn't won the Republicans any battles, they seem to get slammed harder for agreeing to their opponent's definitions. Ignoring them and moving onward seems to be the answer that works politically.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Let Them Know Where You Stand with the Outrage Outlet Flare Gun! at March 14, 2016 01:31 PM (hLRSq)

125 11 is there a beat reporter, male or female that hasn't been pushed, shoved grabbed while trying to get a story or comment?

----

o so that's why they call them beat reporters. every day i learn new things

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 14, 2016 01:31 PM (o7Ufw)

126 Note that all that was needed, and the only thing requested, was a simple apology. Something which would've made this go away in addition to being the right thing to do.

But doing the honorable thing is a foreign concept to the insecure pussybitch that is Donald Trump.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 14, 2016 01:32 PM (6cpOj)

127 Here's what you people don't understand. Even if this happened, it's just because this "reporter" didn't identify herself to Mr. Trump's staff beforehand so we could know she was one of the good ones, wink wink.

Posted by: Katrina's Pierson at March 14, 2016 01:32 PM (ls2n/)

128 Maybe this year will be a rebuilding year for the Phillies. I mean, after last year almost anything is up, amirite?

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 14, 2016 01:32 PM (RD7QR)

129 If you are genuinely wronged, you reach out in private and then escalate if necessary. The evidence so far indicates that that step was skipped, and the offense is trivial at best.

Going straight to a public media accusation was an act of bad faith and an attack. A public attacks is responded to in kind, and Trump's response a plus to Trump supporters.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 01:23 PM (uURQL)

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It's worse than that. That Post reporter asked if he could put that in his report, she said "yeah, go ahead". What report was that? The one about the violent unhinged Trump campaign.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 14, 2016 01:32 PM (LXJ1e)

130 She does have a fairly sizable rack, which would help counterbalance a tug on her arm. In all fairness, she should agree to my taking her deposition, her measurements, cup size, and undergarments.

Posted by: not mega machines, nope at March 14, 2016 01:32 PM (fbovC)

131 As Ace already said, it's not the action, it's the utter inability to step back and say, "Oops...that was dumb" by anyone in the Trump organization.
------------------

I guess stupid comments like "that was like two years ago dude" and "at this point what does it matter" won't get you anywhere either, Except maybe the White House.

Posted by: Roy at March 14, 2016 01:33 PM (VndSC)

132 >>London has fallen was my latest watch. It was good fun.

Yes! Saw it this weekend w/my kid.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2016 01:33 PM (NOIQH)

133 112 Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 01:30 PM (mVjMU)

Which liar Pete?

Duh Donald's or Ms Fields b/c lad they are both liars.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 01:33 PM (g8Hfr)

134 Its really the casual lying the puts me off Trump. I may get used to his constant annoying boasts at some point, but the lack of connection to reality just makes it impossible.

Is he still beating Hillary Clinton in every poll? His campaign manager never even met Fields? Do Trump supporters actually see 5 lights when he tells them?

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at March 14, 2016 01:33 PM (oHROq)

135 I can't believe a reporter working from Breitbart and Donald Trump could be so fast and loose with the truth.

That either would exaggerate gives me great pause.

#NeverFishSticks

Posted by: MJ at March 14, 2016 01:33 PM (KWlog)

136 Michelle Fields is kind of cute. Other than that I have no opinion. I bet if it were Dagen McDowell, we would have known what happened.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at March 14, 2016 01:33 PM (qSIlh)

137 Does the video look like it's not at normal speed? slowed down it would look less jerk-y

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 14, 2016 01:33 PM (o7Ufw)

138 Anyone who has seen the video now must ask themselves- who do I believe, Ace, or my own lyin' eyes?

Posted by: Mica Vim Toot at March 14, 2016 01:33 PM (SRurx)

139 Corey is so lacking in upper body strength that he can't cause bruises.

Posted by: Harun at March 14, 2016 01:33 PM (UBBWX)

140 I watched the video and saw no arm grab. NOTHING. The most I could possibly think that I saw was Corey maybe gripping her upper arm in a passing gesture.

However, Michelle displayed a bruise on her forearm. I saw NO grabbing of Corey on her forearm.

The whole story is debunked right there. Why show a bruise on your forearm if you were grabbed anywhere but your forearm?

Please explain?!?

Posted by: K-E at March 14, 2016 01:33 PM (69sTo)

141 >>>Bullshit, her boyfriend Jamie Weinstein tweeted about it almost as soon as it happened. Why are you just lying now ace?

um, that's her boyfriend, not her.

why are you such a little deceptive bitch?

Posted by: ace at March 14, 2016 01:33 PM (dciA+)

142 I still don't care.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 14, 2016 01:34 PM (c4yY7)

143 Could be worse. They coulda made her ride in a carrier on top of the car. Brutal.

But yeah, the Trump lieutenant should've manned up and apologized, no matter how trivial the infraction. It'd have been the manly and gentlemanly thing to do.

This is one of those "no clean hands" things though, and the respective sides, entrenched, are going to a WW-1 trench warfare stalemate over it.

Which is equally as stupid as the original WW-1 trench warfare.

What's worse about this one, is that the Allies are shooting at each other from opposing trenches, while the Jerries watch askance, laughing the whole while.

Me, I'm rooting for the Beagle on the flying doghouse, but that's another cartoon altogether.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 14, 2016 01:34 PM (McRlu)

144 And all the guy had to do was apologize.
Posted by: troyriser at March 14, 2016 01:24 PM (UWlp+)

For what?

Seriously. His chief is staff is supposed to resign over this?

Is this the matrix? Has my favorite political writer been inhabited by the spirit of Saul alinsky to pursue the left's agenda for them?

I'm not even saying this as a Trump fan, I'm not even happy about it: why, when there are hundreds and hundreds of things to attack Trump for, does everyone, right, left, and center pick the stupidest ones to grab onto?

Posted by: Phone of kari at March 14, 2016 01:34 PM (zPavA)

145 In some parallel universe, David Axelrod gently grabbed a reporterette's arm as Obama was walking by, and the Trumptards are calling for impeachment followed by breaking on the wheel.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 01:34 PM (NDVSb)

146 I still can't figure out how republicans always loose

Posted by: ajlfour at March 14, 2016 01:34 PM (1jypn)

147 Meanwhile, back in Ohio and Florida and North Carolina ...

Posted by: mrp at March 14, 2016 01:34 PM (JBggj)

148 Yeah . . . we're gonna have to agree to disagree. She claimed she was yanked, almost to the ground. The video shows him brushing past her and her stepping back. If that is the moment in question, and I think we all agree it is, that simply did not happen. It just didn't.

Tami's observation that this video would be unremarkable if it was shown to anyone without the hyperbolic rhetoric in the past week is spot on.

Posted by: wte9 at March 14, 2016 01:34 PM (xYr9U)

149
You're minimizing. He grabbedFields hard enough to bruise her wrist.

If that we're cause for action, I could sue someone nearly every day of my life.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at March 14, 2016 01:34 PM (DLIpz)

150 I'm a Christian (a YUGE Christian), but I've never apologized to the big JC. Do you think I'd want my campaign manager apologizing to this chick? C'mon!

Posted by: Trump at March 14, 2016 01:34 PM (5wiU6)

151 There is no troll like the concern troll.

Troll? That's funny. I've commented here for years. GFY.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 14, 2016 01:35 PM (r9tFS)

152 Ace, just put up the Totally Not Gay Slap Fight.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at March 14, 2016 01:35 PM (l/HJc)

153 I give up. Never was good at small talk.

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 14, 2016 01:35 PM (RD7QR)

154 Fields and the editor resigned. Case closed.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 14, 2016 01:35 PM (jsWA8)

155 128 Maybe this year will be a rebuilding year for the Phillies. I mean, after last year almost anything is up, amirite?
Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 14, 2016 01:32 PM (RD7QR)

The Phillies don't have rebuilding years. They have rebuilding decades.

Posted by: rickl at March 14, 2016 01:35 PM (sdi6R)

156 Ace,

Tying in with your whole changing positions...

Remember when the past actions of actual and possible campaign advisers previous positions mattered to Breitbart?

Matt Boyle spent half of last year chopping Scott Walker off at the knees at Breitbart over campaign advisers and low and behold now you have a campaign adviser for Trump who did get physical with a female reporter and then straight up lied about it.

Thank God the adviser was someone associated with Trump because if this happened to any other campaign currently running against Trump that little cumsucker Boyle would have had a fucking fit.

And yes a weekend hasn't changed the fact that I'm still bitter about the Breitbart hack job against Walker.

Posted by: H Badger at March 14, 2016 01:35 PM (n/0Nw)

157 I'd really like to hear some Trump fans tell me about the purloined strawberries.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 01:35 PM (NDVSb)

158 "um, that's her boyfriend, not her.

why are you such a little deceptive bitch?
"

And her article came out the very next morning, no 24 hour waiting period like you claim

Posted by: Manco at March 14, 2016 01:35 PM (Duizy)

159 34: " wow ace, going full retard on this are you."

I place my bet on TBH3K by post 200 on this one.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at March 14, 2016 01:35 PM (z/vX9)

160 Yeah, that sounds like the totally classy approach encouraged by Donald J. Trump. Someone wrongs you, so you privately reach out, with kindness.

And because Fields didn't do unto Donald as she would have him do unto her, she's a whore and a liar.

You don't actually believe a word of what you wrote, do you?
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 01:27 PM (NDVSb)

I write what I believe. Do you?

It's not a matter of kindness to reach out in private to deal with wrongs. That's one falsehood. Going public is escalation. Escalation may help your case, but it also raises the stakes.

Fields publicly attacked Trump first, and now she gets counter-attacked publicly in response. Trumps is doing to Fields as she did to him. That's entirely fair. No one's called her a whore, that's you.

That's two false statements. And you're going to accuse me of lying about what I believe?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 01:36 PM (uURQL)

161 I have stayed out of this whole Fields absurdity until now. But this is one of the lamest takedown attempts I have ever seen. In fact, it's right up there with the whole Emma Sulkowicz level insanity at Columbia, carrying around a mattress for months on end just for the attention.

I keep reading here how Trump is a con artist. Well, it's certainly not the Trump supporters being taken in by this latest SJW phony hate crime.

Lame.

Posted by: Foul Harold at March 14, 2016 01:36 PM (FGvan)

162 Anti-Trump Daily Newsletter HQ

Posted by: tsj017 at March 14, 2016 01:36 PM (4YUWF)

163 Imagine the stink had someone grabbed Ms. Field's cookies instead.

Posted by: Roy at March 14, 2016 01:36 PM (VndSC)

164 Well, not quite Zapruder in either quality or importance. It is of interest to the 33 people who have not already done a quick claim for The Hill To Die On.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 14, 2016 01:36 PM (scP6Z)

165 OK, I've watched the video 5 times and I still can't see where Trump hit this girl with a baseball bat.

According to the "tone" of the headlines, Trump beat this orphan refugee repeatedly, until she agreed to perform oral sex.

I depend on Ace to simplify these news stories for me, but I've got to say, in this case I just don't get it.

Posted by: jwest at March 14, 2016 01:36 PM (Zs4uk)

166 maybe someone can start an organization to help us get past all this. Maybe we can call it... Move On...

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at March 14, 2016 01:36 PM (qSIlh)

167 She was keeping it private?

How

By talking to a WaPo reporter about it and telling him he could write about it, allegedly immediately after

And then she and her boyfriend going on Twitter

Not so private, at least how I understand it

Posted by: ThunderB at March 14, 2016 01:37 PM (zOTsN)

168 OT but related:

Nasty piece by Brietbart about Ben Shapiro, which they subsequently yanked and called a "Joke".

http://bit.ly/1RipakK

Things are getting interesting.

Posted by: Dennis at March 14, 2016 01:37 PM (f4toV)

169 It's like Cairo and CBS reporter Lara Logan all over again...
Ace, can you waste our time on a little less nonsense, please.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at March 14, 2016 01:37 PM (G5+Kt)

170
She does have a fairly sizable rack...
Posted by: not mega machines

NB: Out on the net, foot fetishists are making quite the fuss over her pretty little pigeons.

Takes all kinds.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 14, 2016 01:37 PM (kdS6q)

171 Lets talk about how Horrible the Ghostbusters trailer was, Now that's an important issue.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 14, 2016 01:37 PM (c4yY7)

172 Barring an act of God, Cruz' campaign is likely sunk with this latest media lie. Because that's who Republicans are. They run away in fear.

This means the Republicans have Trump. Wasn't he supposed to be a flash in the pan? A sideshow who will flame out of this process soon?

FWIW regarding Cruz, I have heard this fellow Kevin Swanson speak a few times. He is a committed Christian, not a hateful person at all. I am 100% certain his words are being taken out of context. But that won't matter to the media or the LIV's, or the Repubs who are just looking for a way to sideline Cruz.

Posted by: Sambo at March 14, 2016 01:37 PM (q7OLJ)

173 Time for a full-on insult thread. Commenters going head to head in a verbal melee. No holds barred! Three rounds! IT'S A CAGE MATCH! BREAK OUT THE FOLDING CHAIRS!

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 14, 2016 01:37 PM (RD7QR)

174 really? this is still a thing? did ophuckstick take a dump yet today? damn, all the bullshit going on and this?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 14, 2016 01:37 PM (ucDmr)

175 32 So you guys seen any good movies?

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 14, 2016 01:21 PM (RD7QR)
--------------------------------------------

Saw Deadpool this weekend. Worst. Movie. Ever.

Posted by: MTF at March 14, 2016 01:37 PM (TxJGV)

176 Breitbart is the bigger story coming out of this shitshow.

The Trump Brigrade has gone the full spectrum of excuses here before this video; 'LIAR! Nothing happened, no big deal! She's a hoaxer with a book deal! Closet subversive liberal! She bruised herself! This doesn't look so bad!'

Whatever. No one's changing votes or turning on Trump over it. It's been an interesting thought exercise to watch how they'll react to future PR disasters.

But two more people just resigned from Breitbart. Editor Jarrett Stepman and Nat. Sec. reporter Jordan Schachtel

Posted by: El Kabong at March 14, 2016 01:37 PM (datdl)

177
And yes a weekend hasn't changed the fact that I'm still bitter about the Breitbart hack job against Walker.

Me too.... I guess I just don't get all the "hysterics" over Trump... Why are some sights like Drudge and Breitbart so crazed over Him? I just don't see it....

Posted by: donna at March 14, 2016 01:37 PM (/dSsq)

178 Mussolini spent the first part of his career developing techniques to pull women to the ground in such a way as not to leave any film evidence of such a thing happening.

It's a well known fascist tactic.

Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at March 14, 2016 01:37 PM (TFWFz)

179 Ace, have you posted yet about Ben Shapiro's resignation and the ugly shenanigans in the wake?

Posted by: baldilocks is back in LA at March 14, 2016 01:38 PM (ys2UW)

180 47: "That Team Trump would rather melt down a friendly news out than do that more pittance tells you a lot."

I would say that Breitbart did their own melting down. They didn't need any help from Trump and crew on that one.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at March 14, 2016 01:38 PM (z/vX9)

181 >>>178 Joined in with the establishment huh Ace?

How much they payin you Ace?

...

banned. Defamatory accusations are some people's idea of "political discussion."

Like their hero, they just launch completely made-up accusations.

Posted by: ace at March 14, 2016 01:38 PM (dciA+)

182 Me fail English? That's unpossible.

Posted by: Ralph Wiggum at March 14, 2016 01:38 PM (tACz+)

183 Jonah Goldberg brought up an interesting point on Twitter this morning; Breitbart trusted Fields' reporting, they staked their reputation on it by printing her work...but her personal account of what happened couldn't be trusted?

Posted by: El Kabong at March 14, 2016 01:39 PM (datdl)

184 Am I watching the right video? The one titled "Grabgate debunked - Michelle Fields cries wolf?" That's the one you are saying proves she was violated? Because, to be kind, it's not the rock solid evidence I was expecting by the tone of your post.

Posted by: scalpel at March 14, 2016 01:39 PM (ALuwN)

185 Repost: me
Do we have any basketball fans that can supply the appropriate terminology and penalties.

How many yards do you get for a questionable holding call in pee-wee football?

Loss of a down and post-game juice boxes.

Posted by: rickb223

Posted by: DaveA at March 14, 2016 01:39 PM (DL2i+)

186 Hi!

Posted by: Ban Hammer at March 14, 2016 01:39 PM (KWlog)

187 I think her boyfriend, Jamie Weinstein, escalated it unnecessarily when he tweeted that Trump's guy "tried to pull Fields to the ground." Obviously not the case from the video. That started the rodeo of stupidity from both sides.

Her boyfriend went off half-cocked and the Trump guy should have apologized like Ace said. Everyone loses.

I will say I was siding with Fields originally, but that video is extremely mild.

Posted by: T-Lo at March 14, 2016 01:39 PM (zrU0r)

188 157 Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 01:35 PM (NDVSb)

A female newsie with more GOP scalps on her gunbelt than Donkey ones gets her Baron Munchausen on and people who look at it and say "wow looks like a crowd to me" are the conspiracy nutters?

Whatever...

I'll miss Ben Shapiro's work until he lands on his feet somewhere but I'd walk across the street to avoid plucky reporter DD Diana Prince lest I be accused of sexual assault for saying "pardon me ma'am" as I pass her by.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 01:39 PM (g8Hfr)

189 Bullshit, her boyfriend Jamie Weinstein tweeted about it almost as soon as it happened. Why are you just lying now ace?
Posted by: Manco at March 14, 2016 01:31 PM (Duizy)

You know what a man values by the costs he pays.

ace doesn't want Trump more than he values his credibility.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 01:39 PM (uURQL)

190 Can someone let me out of Mr. Trump's cage? He said he'd come back and let me out when he finished his rally. Please?

Posted by: Chris Christie at March 14, 2016 01:39 PM (ls2n/)

191 Are we all watching the same video here? I'm so confused...

Posted by: Pipe Holder at March 14, 2016 01:39 PM (Z/diL)

192 I'm not seeing it either. I haven't followed this scandal, as it started while I was dealing with a family emergency.

Of course, I saw all the headlines and resignations, but I really expected something with more meat on its bones.

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 01:39 PM (V/X7u)

193 Good thing.... dueling has been out lawed

Posted by: donna at March 14, 2016 01:39 PM (/dSsq)

194 I honestly don't understand why is this something.

Let's say a Secret Service person thought someone was getting too close and grabbed her hand too hard when he tried to move it? okay, maybe it was a mistake, but are you really going to make some broader case that the candidate likes to beat women?

I mean if Trump fires this person is his candidacy now A-Okay? No more issues?

The video to me shows a tiny guy nonchalantly moving people aside, the look on his face and body language certainly don't show this man was attempting to exert physical violence.

Posted by: Baldwin at March 14, 2016 01:40 PM (icbE4)

195 it's not the ludicrous suggestion that "The Establishment is paying ace off" (why did this just start now?) that causes the ban, really.

It's just knowing that this sort of person has nothing to contribute but this low shit, and thinks that whenever he feels "angry" like an SJW over a fact he doesn't like, the proper course is to start throwing absurd allegations and insults.

Posted by: ace at March 14, 2016 01:40 PM (dciA+)

196 55: "Resume enhancer for her. Stubbornness for him. It could have all been finished in seconds if they wanted."

Winner winner, chicken dinner. All of the drama summed up in two sentences.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at March 14, 2016 01:40 PM (z/vX9)

197 That ace "has gone" gope?
In the right years I've been around here he's always been gope.
Of course, back then it was ELECTABILITY ELEVENTY1!!

And still no coverage here at least that I've seen, of a scumbag like Neil Bush being hired into Cruz's national campaign finance team.

Posted by: teej at March 14, 2016 01:40 PM (Jvty4)

198 Yes, Trump hates women and Cruz wants to murder the gheys.

Can we move on now?

Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2016 01:40 PM (O0lVq)

199 126 Note that all that was needed, and the only thing requested, was a simple apology. Something which would've made this go away in addition to being the right thing to do.

But doing the honorable thing is a foreign concept to the insecure pussybitch that is Donald Trump.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 14, 2016 01:32 PM (6cpOj)

++++

The "pussybitch" is the kind of guy who apologizes even though he did nothing wrong. We have had enough of the appeasers; time for someone who is willing to stand up to the crybullies.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 14, 2016 01:40 PM (R+30W)

200 I've looked at that video repeatedly and all I see is a pissed off reporter who was cut off from her "get" by the "get"'s chief of staff.

Pissed off as in "I'll get you, MF and your little dog, too".

Posted by: mrp at March 14, 2016 01:40 PM (JBggj)

201 Where is the personal injury lawsuit? Until that is filed I don't care!

Posted by: Lester at March 14, 2016 01:41 PM (2UPXV)

202 I agree that Jamie Weinstein was a real bitch for going off on this. He should have discussed how good a fuck she was on Howard Stern, like a classy Man's Man does it.

Posted by: Jerry Springer at March 14, 2016 01:41 PM (ls2n/)

203 What exactly am I supposed to see in this video. No many how many times I've seen it, I see no indication of anything horrible happening to her.

I guess when you don't like Trump, you grasp at straws. And when you don't like Cruz, you grasp at straws.

I'm not playing this game. Actual facts or move on.

Posted by: Machiavelli at March 14, 2016 01:41 PM (6OScs)

204 >>>I will say I was siding with Fields originally, but that video is extremely mild.

video at 1/2 or slower speed to tend to make things look milder than at a full speed.

Posted by: ace at March 14, 2016 01:41 PM (dciA+)

205 What's all the fuss about?

Posted by: Lara Logan at March 14, 2016 01:41 PM (Ju+iI)

206 Ok, I'm going back to work. I really don't care much about this issue.

You guys have fun but try not to get too worked up, okay?

Mwah.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 14, 2016 01:41 PM (4Uxmv)

207 But yeah, the Trump lieutenant should've manned up and apologized, no matter how trivial the infraction. It'd have been the manly and gentlemanly thing to do.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
=====

Wrong! Wrong wrong wrong.

This does not merit a public apology, sorry, and (AND!) this neuters one of the media's most potent weapons, drawing republican candidates into these metatheatrical apology Olympics, gagging their campaign.

We've been losing with gentlemen for decades, it's time to BEAT THE SOCIALISTS.

This is why voters want a business person who looks at public relations dispassionately as a marketing instrument, instead of morons like us who think public relations are an arena for advancing a candidate's philosophy of the teleology of government.

Michelle Fields is FINE. She's ALIVE AND WELL. Good god

Posted by: Phone of kari at March 14, 2016 01:41 PM (zPavA)

208 I'm not a Trump supporter, but in this video, she is more jostled or pushed to one side, not "almost thrown to the ground". Should have been a non story. That being said, you'd think that the Trump camp would have realized that the Breitbart site has been cheerleading his team for months and would have given them special access/special treatment or something.

Posted by: North by Northeast of Eden at March 14, 2016 01:41 PM (O7hFp)

209 Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 14, 2016 01:37 PM (RD7QR)

They're too far gone.

I think it's the time change that has finally pushed people 'round the bend.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 14, 2016 01:41 PM (Zu3d9)

210 "Fields publicly attacked Trump first, and now she gets counter-attacked publicly in response. Trumps is doing to Fields as she did to him. That's entirely fair."

Nope. Not fair at all. Not proportional at all. This is nothing more than Carville/Blumenthal "nuts & sluts." You're no better than Sid Blumenthal and James Carville. You're sinking to their level, and not even for Trump. For some jackass you'll never meet named Corey. My God, man. You're defending a political mercenary, a campaign manager, by sliming a woman. Do you have any shame at all?

"No one's called her a whore, that's you."

http://is.gd/9fmFsl

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 01:41 PM (NDVSb)

211 But two more people just resigned from Breitbart. Editor Jarrett Stepman and Nat. Sec. reporter Jordan Schachtel
Posted by: El Kabong at March 14, 2016 01:37 PM (datdl)

Breitbart suspended a reporter for questioning the narrative and requesting the video evidence that we're looking at now.

The rest of their leadership can quit over this and I won't give a damn.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 01:41 PM (uURQL)

212 So, on the one hand we have:

Many fans of Trump doing a "fierce" defense of their candidate. Except this guy is not the candidate, he is a guy who works for the candidate. Anyone who criticizes this guy is impugning the honor of Trump and must be an establishment shill.

On the other:

Many people who dislike Trump are attacking this guy as though he is Trump- except he is not Trump, he is a guy who works for Trump. Anyone who supports them, be he troll in Trump Fan clothing or not (and usually someone who calls her a slut/whore is a tip off) is used to then tar Trump as though he directly said it.

My pov:

Why is this video in super slow mo? Every motion, no matter what has a tendency to make motion look much more gentle than it does in real speed. Does this mean she was almost thrown to the ground? Probably not.

Everyone goes straight to plaid these days. Everyone seems to use ANYTHING that happens to confirm their already bedrock assumptions.

Trump defending his man, even though he MIGHT have bit exuberant? Well, this man will fight for us on any issue.

Trump defending his man? Well, that means he must condone violence against women.

Sheesh.

What I think should have/should happen? Trump or more importantly the guy should apologize for jostling the poor lady. That is just good manners even if she is trying to use this to get at Trump. It would have helped defuse the situation before it went to plaid speed.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 14, 2016 01:41 PM (iHjB5)

213 "... it's certainly not the Trump supporters being taken in by this latest SJW phony hate crime.

Lame."

Posted by: Foul Harold at March 14, 2016 01:36 PM (FGvan)

Since I don't recognize the nic, I'm going to assume you to be new.

This article on the Fields event is what we here at AoSHQ call a "filler". It's a throwaway item used to fill space and time while Ace works on an epic takedown of Kevin Williamson - a brother right wing New York writer.

Posted by: jwest at March 14, 2016 01:41 PM (Zs4uk)

214 Lewandowski was wrong and should have apologized immediatley as should have the entire Trump campaign.

Now, can we have a few posts on the video of Cruz's gay-killing-pastor-friend?

Posted by: Skeezix at March 14, 2016 01:41 PM (WnCSK)

215 Time to go back to my book.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 14, 2016 01:41 PM (t2KH5)

216 179 Posted by: donna at March 14, 2016 01:37 PM (/dSsq)

Quite, do recall I stated I preferred Perry, Cruz, or Walker as last year went on....

Whatever...let me shift into Jim Ross Mode for the MF WWE event...

Oh Mah Gawd as Gawd is my witness Trump's hired thug damn near broke that poor woman in 1/2....

//yeah really

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 01:42 PM (g8Hfr)

217
I find all these people resigning over this ridiculous. Pollack told people to stop talking about it which is perfectly reasonable.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 14, 2016 01:42 PM (iQIUe)

218 My Wife got into a bigger altercation at Disney World when another Mother tried to push her and my Son so they could dance with Chip, and people are losing their MINDS OVER THIS SHIT?

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 14, 2016 01:42 PM (c4yY7)

219 Who is lying? Fields or Lowendowski?
1. Ace has proven Lervindelsky lied.
2. Trump fans declare Fields a whore.

Posted by: wooga at March 14, 2016 01:42 PM (tACz+)

220 Time for a full-on insult thread. Commenters going head to head in a
verbal melee. No holds barred! Three rounds! IT'S A CAGE MATCH! BREAK
OUT THE FOLDING CHAIRS!

I read that like one of those Nitro burning funny car commercials!

Posted by: John Madden at March 14, 2016 01:42 PM (2X7pN)

221 "Whatever. No one's changing votes or turning on Trump over it. It's been an interesting thought exercise to watch how they'll react to future PR disasters."

If he is elected, and then does amnesty, will they turn?

I think not, because he's proof they did something.

Trump could enact communism, and they'd fawn over him.

If he loses against Hillary, will they blame Trump?

Of course not! they will blame never trump people.

To be fair, after Romney's loss a lot of people including myself were blaming people who didn't vote.

Posted by: Harun at March 14, 2016 01:43 PM (UBBWX)

222 >>>What exactly am I supposed to see in this video. No many how many times I've seen it, I see no indication of anything horrible happening to her.

once again, the claim changes from "he never touched her" to "I see nothing *horrible* happening."

He grabbed her, which is what she said happened. He had no right to do this, and was just trying to shut her up from asking a question.

The fact that you don't think this is "horrible' is irrelevant, as the discussion was not "Did something *horrible* happen?"

Though I would say people's longing for, or at least acceptance of, a casually violent, thuggish leader is revealing.

Posted by: ace at March 14, 2016 01:43 PM (dciA+)

223 "RUN AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Posted by: Brave Sir Sharkman at March 14, 2016 01:43 PM (QWtgr)

224 I was kind of burnt out on blogs when Charles Johnson (the LGF one) flipped but I imagine that this is sort of what the spiral was like.

Posted by: SomeGuy at March 14, 2016 01:43 PM (lCfHg)

225 213 Posted by: jwest at March 14, 2016 01:41 PM (Zs4uk)

Heh I am betting you'll be waiting a good while for that "Kevin Williamson is a hack" piece.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 01:43 PM (g8Hfr)

226 I will say I was siding with Fields originally, but that video is extremely mild.
Posted by: T-Lo at March 14, 2016 01:39 PM (zrU0r)

I don't know. Video from the waist up doesn't show us how much stumbling there was (although it does look pretty mild). But the videos posted a few days ago with audio caught the conversation following, and that conversation seemed pretty consistent with how the story rolled out into the media. It's hard to improvise something like that.

Posted by: Sambo at March 14, 2016 01:43 PM (q7OLJ)

227

I almost fell down,, and I can't get up!!!!

Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 14, 2016 01:43 PM (HSmrB)

228 Oh, FFS.

I haven't seen anything on this until now.

Is that it?

I have to go with the people who say, "why are we talking about this stupid shit when there's a whole metric shit-ton of stupid shit to attack Trump on?"

I mean, there really is--Trump will be horrible. A trainwreck. Awful.

I guess I'll recall a certain not-that-long-ago episode where high-dungeon, DEFCON 1 was fired up on account of mean things said about a pretty lady.

So that's it? That's how we're gonna beat Trump--#WaronWomen.

There's a sad, little red balloon, deflated, barely hanging three feet above the floor--that's all you'll get for your victory party . . . .

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 14, 2016 01:43 PM (fQ/0p)

229 Great opportunities. Get you resume into Breitbart now!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 14, 2016 01:43 PM (iQIUe)

230 Sarah Palin is making a brief campaign stop with Trump before heading back to Alaska. Todd Palin was seriously injured in a snowmobile accident last night and is in intensive care.

Posted by: mrp at March 14, 2016 01:44 PM (JBggj)

231 224 Posted by: SomeGuy at March 14, 2016 01:43 PM (lCfHg)

I was there at LGF when Bikeboy the Jazz Flautist went full retard...

this is NOT that...

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 01:44 PM (g8Hfr)

232 Man, I aint no trump supporter, but the most i see is a guy holding a reporter back from going forward with the group. That happens regularly right? She certainly doesnt seem butt hurt about it.

Posted by: MikeInBA at March 14, 2016 01:44 PM (yatr9)

233 This land is well and truly fu@ked.

Posted by: Vince at March 14, 2016 01:44 PM (RAM6j)

234 Whoo the statements by the two that just resigned at Breitbart.

Basically, they signed up to be journalists not to be propagandists and this was the last straw.

Posted by: H Badger at March 14, 2016 01:44 PM (n/0Nw)

235 >>>Breitbart suspended a reporter for questioning the narrative and requesting the video evidence that we're looking at now.

They just reinstated him. After publishing a hit piece on Shapiro and Fields this morning that they had to take down.

I'm sure BreitGawker has a fine future ahead of it.

Posted by: El Kabong at March 14, 2016 01:44 PM (datdl)

236 Pete, you were asked the same question I answered. Why won't you answer it?

"No one's called her a whore, that's you."
http://is.gd/9fmFsl
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 01:41 PM (NDVSb)

We're on AoS. If you're going to tar AoS commentors with "whore" accusations, you're going to have to cite AoS comments, not some other cesspool on the Internets.

But it's pretty clear at this point that you don't believe what you write, and you are dishonest.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 01:44 PM (uURQL)

237 >> find all these people resigning over this ridiculous. Pollack told people to stop talking about it which is perfectly reasonable.

yes it always looks totally reasonable for a media company to throw a reporter under the bus to flack for a candidate they're supporting.

That's the position Trump put its ally in. It's an impossible position for breitbart.

But, you know. Trump shall not be contradicted. Especially by a mere girl who, if we're being honest, is no 10. Sad!

Posted by: ace at March 14, 2016 01:44 PM (dciA+)

238 Apparently, Ms. Fields just quit Breitbart.com over this incident.

Posted by: Sharkman at March 14, 2016 01:44 PM (QWtgr)

239 You understand of course that an "apology" is taken as an admission of some "guilt" which in a political campaign becomes a toxic, fraudulent narrative mostly ridden by political opportunists and the opposition like Secretariat- right?

Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2016 01:44 PM (O0lVq)

240 Trumptards : Fields' arm :: Andrew Sullivan : Palin's uterus

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 01:44 PM (LtQCz)

241
Breitbart trusted Fields' reporting, they staked their reputation on it by printing her work...but her personal account of what happened couldn't be trusted?
Posted by: El Kabong

Not exactly the first time an employer has needed to write off an employee because they had a personal agenda, lied or otherwise misbehaved.

You hire the resume and references. You fire the guy caught stealing other people's lunches from the breakroom fridge.

See: Glass, Stephen and Brooks, David just for starters.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 14, 2016 01:45 PM (kdS6q)

242 Does the video look like it's not at normal speed? slowed down it would look less jerk-y

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 14, 2016 01:33 PM (o7Ufw)

So download the flash and speed it up yourself. Computers can do that sort of stuff. Pretty amazing.

Well, I don't see any upside to staying in this thread. I wouldn't even dare to make any jokes about this.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 14, 2016 01:45 PM (zc3Db)

243 Two more Breitbart peeps have resigned.

Posted by: baldilocks is back in LA at March 14, 2016 01:45 PM (ys2UW)

244 This land is well and truly fu@ked.

On that I can agree....

Posted by: donna at March 14, 2016 01:45 PM (/dSsq)

245 As did Ben Shapiro last night. I'm sure this has been discussed in detail already. I'm late to the party.

Posted by: Sharkman at March 14, 2016 01:45 PM (QWtgr)

246 We could use a thread on evolution.

Posted by: said no one at March 14, 2016 01:45 PM (fbovC)

247
There's only one real way to settle this:

The Jerry Springer Show.

Posted by: Ed Anger at March 14, 2016 01:45 PM (RcpcZ)

248 Well the video doesn't show much. The little it does show corroborates Michelle Fields version of events.

How this has been handled both officially and unofficially has again been instructive as to what Trump and Trump supporters are all about.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at March 14, 2016 01:46 PM (0q2P7)

249 Fling (verb; p.p. flung) throw or hurl forcefully:
"he picked up the debris and flung it away" �
"I was flung into jail"
synonyms: throw � toss � sling � hurl � cast � pitch � lob � chuck

Posted by: andycanuck at March 14, 2016 01:46 PM (ioqGj)

250 >>>Though I would say people's longing for, or at least acceptance of, a casually violent, thuggish leader is revealing.

Lotta 'bitch deserved it' and 'well, what was she asking? Was it rude?' going around after it came out.

Posted by: El Kabong at March 14, 2016 01:46 PM (datdl)

251 I think we can nail the coffin on the suffix GATE.

Posted by: bourbonchicken at March 14, 2016 01:46 PM (i5EIg)

252 "You understand of course that an "apology" is taken as an admission of some "guilt" which in a political campaign becomes a toxic, fraudulent narrative mostly ridden by political opportunists and the opposition like Secretariat- right?"

-------

An apology wasn't even necessary. Just a "we're looking into it, if we conclude that we acted inappropriately, we'll apologize" would do fine. Story would be forgotten in a day. But when you go Full Sid Blumental and Full James Carville, the story sticks around.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 01:46 PM (LtQCz)

253 Personally, I am a big fan of the Knuckle sandwich. It tends to establish boundaries.

Posted by: nip at March 14, 2016 01:46 PM (r73Jl)

254 Tomorrow's headline; paddy power 4/3 odds ace openly supporting Bernie

Posted by: Jeff E at March 14, 2016 01:46 PM (QBXdZ)

255 That being said, you'd think that the Trump camp would have realized that the Breitbart site has been cheerleading his team for months and would have given them special access/special treatment or something.

Posted by: North by Northeast of Eden at March 14, 2016 01:41 PM (O7hFp)
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They did. You should have seen the other reporters writhing and bleeding on the ground as Trump exited.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 14, 2016 01:46 PM (NUqwG)

256 144 And all the guy had to do was apologize.
Posted by: troyriser at March 14, 2016 01:24 PM (UWlp+)

For what?

Seriously. His chief is staff is supposed to resign over this?

Is this the matrix? Has my favorite political writer been inhabited by the spirit of Saul alinsky to pursue the left's agenda for them?

I'm not even saying this as a Trump fan, I'm not even happy about it: why, when there are hundreds and hundreds of things to attack Trump for, does everyone, right, left, and center pick the stupidest ones to grab onto?
Posted by: Phone of kari at March 14, 2016 01:34 PM (zPavA)

He's not supposed to resign. He's supposed to apologize.

Just like you quoted.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 14, 2016 01:46 PM (FdQL3)

257 Stop focusing on this particular instance.

Try to find a pattern of behavior that Trump seems to have.

Try to think about the qualities Trump has that other people might see as negative.

(It's like trying to convince an hallucinatory head case that the purple snake isn't going to eat them.)

Posted by: CozMark at March 14, 2016 01:47 PM (CbGSW)

258 Nothing is more pointless, boring, self-destructive, useless and sad than nitpicky internecine blog-infighting.

The amount this story matters to the real world, on a scale of 1-100: 0

The amount this story will affect the LIVs who decide this race, on a scale of 1-100: 0

The amount that everyone on both sides is disingenuously faux-hyperventilating over a non-issue in a pathetic attempt to seize the Victimhood Scepter, on a scale of 1-100: 100

The number of times I will comment on this masturbatory non-scandal henceforth: 0

Posted by: zombie at March 14, 2016 01:47 PM (jBuUi)

259 This is crazy.

What do they have on you, Ace? Why are you lying in the face of her history of doing this 5 times prior and now video which makes a lie of the claim?

Who got to you, Ace? Or, has Ace been hacked?

Posted by: Mica Vim Toot at March 14, 2016 01:47 PM (SRurx)

260 239 You understand of course that an "apology" is taken as an admission of some "guilt" which in a political campaign becomes a toxic, fraudulent narrative mostly ridden by political opportunists and the opposition like Secretariat- right?
Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2016 01:44 PM (O0lVq)

Ah. I forgot that we are in the phase where simple decency is tossed out of the window in order to WIN. What could I possibly have been thinking? Well, she must be a complete dirty, skanky whore then!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 14, 2016 01:47 PM (iHjB5)

261 151: "I've commented here for years."

So have MUMR and the slovack.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at March 14, 2016 01:47 PM (z/vX9)

262 They just reinstated him. After publishing a hit piece on Shapiro and Fields this morning that they had to take down.

I'm sure BreitGawker has a fine future ahead of it.
Posted by: El Kabong at March 14, 2016 01:44 PM (datdl)

Oh, that's good news. Personnel is policy. Reinstating reporters who look for the facts first is a good idea.

I hope they gave him an apology like the apology they were demanding for Fields.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 01:47 PM (uURQL)

263 257 Stop focusing on this particular instance.

Try to find a pattern of behavior that Trump seems to have.

Try to think about the qualities Trump has that other people might see as negative.

(It's like trying to convince an hallucinatory head case that the purple snake isn't going to eat them.)

What You said...

Posted by: donna at March 14, 2016 01:47 PM (/dSsq)

264 "Yeah, that sounds like the totally classy approach encouraged by Donald J. Trump. Someone wrongs you, so you privately reach out, with kindness.

And because Fields didn't do unto Donald as she would have him do unto her, she's a whore and a liar."

No, I see what the other poster is saying. Did Fields make any effort to contact the campaign or the actual offender and say "hey did you know you bruised me and almost yanked me to the ground?" or did she run to the media instead? Smells like a gotcha move, and those moves aren't worthy of civility.

BTW, who has called her a "whore" over this? Or are you just trying to spice up a bland dish so we don't notice the absence of meat?

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 01:48 PM (V/X7u)

265 Oh..... crappppp.... epiphany!

Landowski must have the GI Joe Kung Fu Grip!!!!

Posted by: Don Quixote at March 14, 2016 01:48 PM (RK8AH)

266 Brietbart? Never heard of it. I'm not familiar with Breitbart. I'm gonna have to look into it.

Posted by: Teh Donald at March 14, 2016 01:48 PM (ls2n/)

267 Can no one rid us of this miserable Trump?

Is no one safe? Is there no enchanted weapon to pierce his foul hide? Is there no balm in Gilead?

I'm thinking pretty much nope, not unless the voters decide to stop voting for him. Until then you have him.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Let Them Know Where You Stand with the Outrage Outlet Flare Gun! at March 14, 2016 01:48 PM (hLRSq)

268 238 Posted by: Sharkman at March 14, 2016 01:44 PM (QWtgr)

by "just quit" you mean last night...

yeah...

"you didn't believe me when I said William the Conqueror rose from the dead and tried to grope me either..."

//Michelle Fields Ace Reporter

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 01:48 PM (g8Hfr)

269 [iPissed off as in "I'll get you, MF and your little dog, too".

FIRE CAN'T MELT STEEL.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 14, 2016 01:48 PM (6cpOj)

270 "BTW, who has called her a "whore" over this? Or are you just trying to spice up a bland dish so we don't notice the absence of meat?"

------

How many links do you want? Do your own googling: michelle fields whore

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 01:49 PM (mVjMU)

271 "And all the guy had to do was apologize.
Posted by: troyriser at March 14, 2016 01:24 PM (UWlp+)

For what?

Seriously. His chief is staff is supposed to resign over this?"

Who said resign? Before you, I mean.

Posted by: holygoat at March 14, 2016 01:49 PM (ZgI/r)

272 Posted by: RoyalOil at March 14, 2016 01:43 PM (fQ/0p)

I am with you on this, I just don't care.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 14, 2016 01:49 PM (c4yY7)

273 It just dawned on me.

This is why Clinton uses ropes on reporters.

It kind of makes sense now.

Posted by: Harun at March 14, 2016 01:49 PM (UBBWX)

274 DE lurks *makes popcorn* Gonna be fun to watch this one! RE Lurks

Posted by: Big V at March 14, 2016 01:49 PM (BAHqV)

275 somehow i was expecting to see something more violent.

Posted by: A@A at March 14, 2016 01:17 PM (pchTP)

Yeah. Something like fat broads fighting over a fresh skid of Beanie Babies at WalMart.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 14, 2016 01:49 PM (/i7Ua)

276 It's going to be like Jonestown around here if Trump gets elected.

Who is mixing the Kool-Aid?

Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2016 01:50 PM (O0lVq)

277 This is getting scary.

Siri's inventor (what an ass. It's the single most annoying product ever) is about to unveil a cloud-based, device agnostic personal assistant.

It will be called "Skynet" and it goes operational shortly, and no vote will be taken first either.

http://usat.ly/1LmMrpx

(Ok, he didn't name it Skynet, but he should have)

Posted by: MTF at March 14, 2016 01:50 PM (TxJGV)

278 >>>Oh, that's good news. Personnel is policy. Reinstating reporters who look for the facts first is a good idea.
I hope they gave him an apology like the apology they were demanding for Fields.

Since we're so big on Conspiracy Theories with Trump...you think they just 'suspended' to save face and make an attempt at objectivity while Pollack was telling people in private to stop talking about it? Specifically 'stop defending Fields'?

Or do all conspiracies only work against Trump?

Posted by: El Kabong at March 14, 2016 01:51 PM (datdl)

279 257 Stop focusing on this particular instance.

Try to find a pattern of behavior that Trump seems to have.

Try to think about the qualities Trump has that other people might see as negative.

---------------------

Translation: Fake but accurate!

Posted by: SomeGuy at March 14, 2016 01:51 PM (lCfHg)

280 So ace, you think that Field's claim that she was assaulted will be prosecuted by the courts? She's filed a police report, and she is the one that will have to push for a prosecution (this being the case where the police did not directly observe a misdemeanor)...

And she will be liable to a charge of false prosecution if it goes to trial and she loses. That's my amateur understanding of the law fwiw.

Also I would note that a media scrum and a rugby scrum are hard to tell apart except for the clothes worn.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 14, 2016 01:51 PM (gyKtp)

281 I honestly went from completely believing that Landowski assaulted her and that trump should just fire him, to now thinking this was some fame hungry reporter trying to exploit the tiniest opening.

This is the equivalent of bumping into someone at a bar.

The fact that this reporter repeatedly has found herself in situations like this where she was beat up by a cop or groped by Allen West, etc just further erodes her credibility.

Posted by: Baldwin at March 14, 2016 01:51 PM (icbE4)

282 Since I don't recognize the nic, I'm going to assume you to be new.

This article on the Fields event is what we here at AoSHQ call a "filler". It's a throwaway item used to fill space and time while Ace works on an epic takedown of Kevin Williamson - a brother right wing New York writer.

Posted by: jwest at March 14, 2016 01:41 PM (Zs4uk)

I have been coming to this site for many, many years though I'm not a frequent poster. A simple Google search will verify this. I don't care what you want to call it. This event isn't newsworthy and caters to the worst aspects of the SJW movement. Next thing you know we'll be reading headliners here calling Trump an insensitive, cisgendered member of the patriarchy.

Posted by: Foul Harold at March 14, 2016 01:51 PM (FGvan)

283 Frankly I think you're way off, an order of magnitude off. I think, depending on the choreography in question, you're underestimating by several thousand angels, at least, just how many could dance in the head of that pin.

Posted by: Phone of kari at March 14, 2016 01:51 PM (zPavA)

284 It's going to be like Jonestown around here if Trump gets elected.
------------
I don't think he'll even need to get the party nomination for that. I think another month in the lead should do it.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 14, 2016 01:51 PM (NUqwG)

285
It's going to be like Jonestown around here if Trump gets elected.

Who is mixing the Kool-Aid?

Posted by: Marcus T

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I will. But I'll use everclear.

Posted by: CozMark at March 14, 2016 01:51 PM (CbGSW)

286 Anyone want to talk about The Walking Dead instead I did a recap on my blog - link in nic

I want Carol on my security team.

Posted by: @votermom at March 14, 2016 01:51 PM (cbfNE)

287 1. It didn't happen.
2. It didn't happen but it's no big deal.
3. It might have been a big deal, but the bitch is an attention whore. And probably a real one.
4. Maybe, maybe not, but with everything else going on at this point, what difference does it make?

I guess Trump really is a Clinton.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 14, 2016 01:52 PM (SWB1A)

288 *opens chocolate/strawberry puddin' cup

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 14, 2016 01:52 PM (mEZce)

289 This was never about the event, it was about the reaction to the event.

And, frankly, that has taught me more than I wanted to know.

And we're boned.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 14, 2016 01:52 PM (bLnSU)

290 It's going to be like Jonestown around here if Trump gets elected.

Who is mixing the Kool-Aid?

Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2016 01:50 PM (O0lVq)
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Yeah, because nobody around here has any experience with living under 2nd rate, know-nothing, narcissistic douchebag-presidents.

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at March 14, 2016 01:52 PM (oHROq)

291 Well the video doesn't show much. The little it does show corroborates Michelle Fields version of events.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/03/10/3276486/

"Trump acknowledged the question, but before he could answer I was jolted backwards. Someone had grabbed me tightly by the arm and yanked me down. I almost fell to the ground, but was able to maintain my balance. Nonetheless, I was shaken. "

Fields takes a step backwards and turns, but her head never drops in height.

That's some major losing balance and almost falling there ... I bet she does aerobics to recover from something like that.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 01:53 PM (uURQL)

292 281 Posted by: Baldwin at March 14, 2016 01:51 PM (icbE4)

No damn it I AM NOT THE STORY!

The story is the Chicago White Sox all bombarding me with mini pickles and demanding I do the veil dance...

//Michelle Fields Ace Reporter

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 01:53 PM (g8Hfr)

293 258 Nothing is more pointless, boring, self-destructive, useless and sad than nitpicky internecine blog-infighting.

The amount this story matters to the real world, on a scale of 1-100: 0

The amount this story will affect the LIVs who decide this race, on a scale of 1-100: 0

The amount that everyone on both sides is disingenuously faux-hyperventilating over a non-issue in a pathetic attempt to seize the Victimhood Scepter, on a scale of 1-100: 100

The number of times I will comment on this masturbatory non-scandal henceforth: 0
Posted by: zombie at March 14, 2016 01:47 PM (jBuUi)

So true and needs repeated

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 14, 2016 01:53 PM (c4yY7)

294 Try to think about the qualities Trump has that other people might see as negative.

THERE IS NOTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT HIS EMINENCE THE DONALD! YOU ARE ALL ESTABLISHMENT GOP SHILLS!!!

Posted by: Trumpbot #298738975 at March 14, 2016 01:53 PM (D4ynZ)

295 Who said resign? Before you, I mean.
Posted by: holygoat at March 14, 2016 01:49 PM (ZgI/r)

Will you be here for some time? Because as soon as I get back to a computer I intend to answer your question in full. Call it 45 minutes.

Posted by: Phone of kari at March 14, 2016 01:53 PM (zPavA)

296 I guess Trump really is a Clinton.

I don't know what ever it is it's going to be yuuuuuuge....

Posted by: donna at March 14, 2016 01:53 PM (/dSsq)

297 "Lewandowski was wrong and should have apologized immediatley as should have the entire Trump campaign."

That's hardly enough. Trump should have stepped out of the race over this. Lewandowski should have done a groveling apology tour for a year and then begged Valenti to forgive him his male privilege.

Chemical castration though... that might be a bridge too far.

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 01:53 PM (V/X7u)

298 I hope Ms. Fields (Snowflake) never has to take public transit in the far east.

Posted by: Joe Mama at March 14, 2016 01:53 PM (NQmg1)

299 The Donald Principle

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 14, 2016 01:53 PM (PkIg+)

300 I was in her camp until I saw this video. I can't tell who jostled her. I see no grab. She is the claiming she was yanked, pulled down and nearly fell. I see none of that. Makes me doubt the rest.

She told the WaPo reporter to write about it, she didn't keep it "private". She wasn't looking to keep it private. Her right to not be quiet. But she claims she wanted to keep it quiet, and that isn't something you can claim when you told a WaPo reporter to write about it.

She claims things that did not happen, and for the things we cannot see we have to rely on her credibility. And I have trouble with her credibility now

Posted by: ThunderB at March 14, 2016 01:54 PM (zOTsN)

301 289 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 14, 2016 01:52 PM (bLnSU)

and now you know why I am resigned and largely indifferent to our impending trip down Marxism lane with Grammy H in charge.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 01:54 PM (g8Hfr)

302 But two more people just resigned from Breitbart. Editor Jarrett Stepman and Nat. Sec. reporter Jordan Schachtel

^^^^

Yeah, this is what I don't get. If these videos really just show nothing at all and she's a lying liar who bruised herself, why are all these Breitbart people now up and resigning over it? Including these two guys, plus Fields, Shapiro, and I read Shaprio's dad was working there and has now resigned, plus the PR guy the other day, bad rumors of a lot more looking to get out of their non-compete contracts so they can leave, too. That's six gone over this, minimum. The organization is imploding.

Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 14, 2016 01:54 PM (KkVB6)

303 Let me restate it then. No matter how many times I watch this, I can't even see him touch her.

222 >>>What exactly am I supposed to see in this video. No many how many times I've seen it, I see no indication of anything horrible happening to her.

once again, the claim changes from "he never touched her" to "I see nothing *horrible* happening."

He grabbed her, which is what she said happened. He had no right to do this, and was just trying to shut her up from asking a question.

The fact that you don't think this is "horrible' is irrelevant, as the discussion was not "Did something *horrible* happen?"

Though I would say people's longing for, or at least acceptance of, a casually violent, thuggish leader is revealing.

Posted by: Machiavelli at March 14, 2016 01:54 PM (6OScs)

304 Posted by: zombie at March 14, 2016 01:47 PM (jBuUi)

Now why did you go and start talking sense to everyone? You know it won't work.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Let Them Know Where You Stand with the Outrage Outlet Flare Gun! at March 14, 2016 01:54 PM (hLRSq)

305 and now you know why I am resigned and largely indifferent to our impending trip down Marxism lane with Grammy H in charge.

Yup....

Posted by: donna at March 14, 2016 01:54 PM (/dSsq)

306 34 ... Keep defending the attention whore calling this assault, Lol
Posted by: Manco at March 14, 2016 01:21 PM (Duizy)

That's a "whore" example in this very thread.

Posted by: wooga at March 14, 2016 01:54 PM (tACz+)

307 There's nothing here. I can see absolutely nothing uncommon or excessive about her treatment. I've seen worse at airports and stadiums.

What this tells me is something I already knew ...

... never trust ANYONE in the media. I don't care what organization or affiliation. They have no objectivity.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 14, 2016 01:54 PM (GFNAW)

308 I'd point out, that in a room full of people, many of them reporters, nobody except Terris and Fields thought anything happened.

I mean literally camera operators, reporters, bystanders, security, you name it.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 14, 2016 01:55 PM (LXJ1e)

309 The video is pretty clear. She is heading one direction until Corey grabs her, and she stumbles, but catches herself.

No I have no idea how firmly he grabbed her.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW LLC at March 14, 2016 01:55 PM (m3iiU)

310 I want Carol on my security team.

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MINOR SPOILER ALERT FOR TWD.

No shit.

The whole episode I was thinking she could have been in the CIA from before. She had the cute ginger totally underestimating her.

BBQ anyone ???

My only quibble is at the end of the episode there was the intimation that Carol might be losing her nerve. I hope not.

Oh... and Preacher steps up last week.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 14, 2016 01:55 PM (8XRCm)

311 I have seen far worse treatment on Tokyo trains. No whining, lawsuits or resignations involved, either.

Posted by: Joe Mama at March 14, 2016 01:55 PM (NQmg1)

312
How many links do you want? Do your own googling: michelle fields whore

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 01:49 PM (mVjMU)
______________________________

Well,, there was that one week, at band camp....

Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 14, 2016 01:55 PM (HSmrB)

313 i don't think he needed to apologize.....maybe field reporting isn't her thing....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at March 14, 2016 01:56 PM (0O7c5)

314 NOOD Trump an insensitive, cisgendered member of the patriarchy thread

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 14, 2016 01:56 PM (mEZce)

315 "Trump acknowledged the question, but before he could answer I was jolted backwards. Someone had grabbed me tightly by the arm and yanked me down. I almost fell to the ground, but was able to maintain my balance. Nonetheless, I was shaken. "

If this is indeed Field's quote about the incident, how can anyone come to any other conclusion than she's a lying sack of shit?

Does that account look ANYTHING like the video?

Posted by: Baldwin at March 14, 2016 01:56 PM (icbE4)

316 you think they just 'suspended' to save face and make an attempt at objectivity while Pollack was telling people in private to stop talking about it? Specifically 'stop defending Fields'?

Suspending him was a signal that Breitbart is a Listen and Believe "Men are always rapists if a woman accuses him" outlet. Punishing a man for asking for evidence is anti-objective.

No particular conspiracy, just an information signal. Reinstating him overrides that previous signal.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 01:56 PM (uURQL)

317 "That's six gone over this, minimum. The organization is imploding."

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Irrespective of the outcome of this Fields incident, if you have any journalistic integrity at all, you have to be appalled with the transformation of Breitbart into an arm of the Trump campaign.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 01:56 PM (LtQCz)

318 >>>Yeah, this is what I don't get. If these videos really just show nothing at all and she's a lying liar who bruised herself, why are all these Breitbart people now up and resigning over it? Including these two guys, plus Fields, Shapiro, and I read Shaprio's dad was working there and has now resigned, plus the PR guy the other day, bad rumors of a lot more looking to get out of their non-compete contracts so they can leave, too. That's six gone over this, minimum. The organization is imploding.

According to Shapiro, they're tired of the endless Trump cheerleading and ass covering.

Posted by: El Kabong at March 14, 2016 01:56 PM (datdl)

319 Katrina, like Coulter and Hughes, are all Conservative Escorts anymore https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcHNsDTp2hY

Posted by: Fishie at March 14, 2016 01:56 PM (iy2lM)

320 I see nothing , I hear nothing , I know nothing.

Posted by: Sgt. Lewandoschultz at March 14, 2016 01:56 PM (PkIg+)

321 A police report was filed for this? Reporters quit Trumpbart, for this?

Posted by: scofflaw_x at March 14, 2016 01:56 PM (y9ZJX)

322 I hope Fields is out of her coma soon.

#prayers

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 14, 2016 01:56 PM (TJCSB)

323 I dunno, I understand to some people this is a really big deal, and the press is desperately trying to spin Trump into a bully, since their "he's the next Hitler" crap didn't work.

But I really don't care that much. I don't care for the Trump supporters' attitudes about it, and I don't like girls being handled like that, no matter what they are like, but its not really moving the meter much for me. Security is tough work. The guy should say "sorry, I was a bit rough" and she should say "Its okay I'm used to it" and that's done.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2016 01:57 PM (39g3+)

324 So what if this Lewandowski fellow roughed up some bitch. She had it coming.

Posted by: Trumpbot #298738975 at March 14, 2016 01:57 PM (D4ynZ)

325 308 I'd point out, that in a room full of people, many of them reporters, nobody except Terris and Fields thought anything happened.

I mean literally camera operators, reporters, bystanders, security, you name it.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 14, 2016 01:55 PM (LXJ1e)

_____

Silence peasant!! We have a meme and no amount of evidence or facts will get in the way.

Posted by: MSM, GOPe at March 14, 2016 01:57 PM (0LHZx)

326 She told the WaPo reporter to write about it, she didn't keep it "private". She wasn't looking to keep it private. Her right to not be quiet. But she claims she wanted to keep it quiet, and that isn't something you can claim when you told a WaPo reporter to write about it.

She claims things that did not happen, and for the things we cannot see we have to rely on her credibility. And I have trouble with her credibility now
Posted by: ThunderB

Go back and reread the archives from 03-11 where she doesn't say he threw her down, but she AGREES with Terris when he says she was. March 11, 4:04 pm

Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2016 01:57 PM (UC5ui)

327 "It's going to be like Jonestown around here if Trump gets elected. "

This will probably happen no matter who gets elected.

Especially after it is revealed that They (whoever that may be) lied to us all along.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at March 14, 2016 01:57 PM (z/vX9)

328 I don't think Ace put up this post with the intention of using it as the perfect filter for figuring out exactly who to ban, but regardless, it's working. If this was intentional, it's brilliant.

Posted by: Chris not Rock at March 14, 2016 01:57 PM (dX5s2)

329 How many links do you want? Do your own googling: michelle fields whore

I Googled Masturbatin Pete whore. Now I need eye bleach!

Posted by: Hadoop at March 14, 2016 01:57 PM (2X7pN)

330 We have become the ludicrous Pharisees we accused the gop of being.

Posted by: Phone of kari at March 14, 2016 01:57 PM (zPavA)

331 It's going to be like Jonestown around here if Trump gets elected.
======================

I had a discussion, a fairly civil one, with a Bernie supporter, and remarked that Trump might become the next president of the United States. His eyes bugged a bit and he responded "If that happens, there will be a civil war."

So, there's that.

Posted by: mrp at March 14, 2016 01:57 PM (JBggj)

332 322 Posted by: Dr Spank at March 14, 2016 01:56 PM (TJCSB)

Stand with Fields....

#KeepHopeAlive

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 01:58 PM (g8Hfr)

333 311 I have seen far worse treatment on Tokyo trains. No whining, lawsuits or resignations involved, either.
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Yeah, well we're not on a Toyko train.

Would you allow me to put my hands on your mother, wife, girlfriend, or daughter, as long as I said "Tokyo train" as I copped a feel?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 01:58 PM (LtQCz)

334 In lighter news, apparently its illegal for porn actresses in Australia to have small breasts because the government thinks that leads to pedophilia and portrayals of underage sex scenes.

So they get mostly the inflated fake wobbly mams over there, I guess.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2016 01:58 PM (39g3+)

335 " It's not the crime, it's the coverup. Ace never said it was a brutal grap-and-yank, just that it was enough to warrant an acknowledgment and apology. That Team Trump would rather melt down a friendly news out than do that more pittance tells you a lot.
Posted by: Steves28 at March 14, 2016 01:23 PM (Ory8r)"

Yep. This is where I'm at. The video shows the incident was embarrassingly benign, but if it had just been addressed with an admission and apology then this whole shitstorm could've been avoided.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at March 14, 2016 01:58 PM (Rtyzj)

336 My only quibble is at the end of the episode there was the intimation that Carol might be losing her nerve. I hope not.

----

She's havibg a crisis of conscience

Posted by: @votermom at March 14, 2016 01:58 PM (cbfNE)

337 "It's going to be like Jonestown around here"

It going to flood?

Posted by: Skeezix at March 14, 2016 01:58 PM (WnCSK)

338 NOOD Trump an insensitive, cisgendered member of the patriarchy thread

Don't see it.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 01:58 PM (uURQL)

339
Teflon Trump.

Guaranteed it'll be in a NY Post headline soon.

Posted by: Ed Anger at March 14, 2016 01:58 PM (RcpcZ)

340 If Ben Ferris didn't say anything (making a big deal about it) she wouldn't have bothered mentioning it at all. Nothing noteworthy happened other than Ben Ferris saw an opportunity to chat up a hot chick. And he put ideas in her pretty little head.

Posted by: scofflaw_x at March 14, 2016 01:58 PM (y9ZJX)

341 >but her head never drops in height.

It clearly does actually.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at March 14, 2016 01:59 PM (0q2P7)

342 Yeah, this is what I don't get. If these videos really just show nothing at all and she's a lying liar who bruised herself, why are all these Breitbart people now up and resigning over it? Including these two guys, plus Fields, Shapiro, and I read Shaprio's dad was working there and has now resigned, plus the PR guy the other day, bad rumors of a lot more looking to get out of their non-compete contracts so they can leave, too. That's six gone over this, minimum. The organization is imploding.
Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 14, 2016 01:54 PM (KkVB6)

They're resigning over Breitbart's response to Shapiro's departure (deleted Breitbart post archived link in nick).

Posted by: baldilocks is back in LA at March 14, 2016 01:59 PM (ys2UW)

343 My only quibble is at the end of the episode there was the intimation that Carol might be losing her nerve. I hope not.

Oh... and Preacher steps up last week.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 14, 2016 01:55 PM (8XRCm)
she and maggie were shaken because they had to kill people....not walkers...living breathing people....she hasn't lost her nerve....she just didn't want to have to kill people.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at March 14, 2016 01:59 PM (0O7c5)

344 Of all the reasons to like/dislike Trump, this one is pretty low on the priority scale. Justin my opinion, but I doubt that this changes many minds.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 14, 2016 01:59 PM (kTF2Z)

345 328 I don't think Ace put up this post with the intention of using it as the perfect filter for figuring out exactly who to ban, but regardless, it's working. If this was intentional, it's brilliant.
Posted by: Chris not Rock at March 14, 2016 01:57 PM (dX5s2)

Which automatically means it was an accident on Ace's part. Ewok, you know. God favors children, drunks, and apparently, Ace.

Posted by: Iblis at March 14, 2016 01:59 PM (9221z)

346 she told Megyn it was the worst thing that has happened to her except her father dying, and was almost in (attempted) tears, in her low cut night gown.

She immediately told that Post reporter, that asked about putting it in his story, "go for it" (not wait 24 hours, I want to talk to them). That those two knew their own talk was recorded, and spoke of it as such a violent action, seems overplayed and deliberately so, to me.

video shows no touching at all, just her misstep (could have been a grab, but other video angle just showed his arm straight out, and there is no jerk in his motion)

she is already behind Trump when her brief change of direction happens.

Her question was "are you still against affirmative action?" (iirc) Isn't SCOTUS also against that?

What seems most clear is the networks are desperate to rack up "violence" accusations against Trump, and they have to use what they can find. One old man sucker punched a guy, and this "incident".

Posted by: Illiniwek at March 14, 2016 01:59 PM (eUbDe)

347 Would you allow me to put my hands on your mother, wife, girlfriend, or daughter, as long as I said "Tokyo train" as I copped a feel?

I like trains

*disclaimer: this is not actually Joe Biden, but Christopher Taylor socking a nickname.

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 14, 2016 01:59 PM (39g3+)

348 I could not really see anything definitive as well but I will say this, when women wear high heels (if she was wearing heels), they tend to stumble easily due to displacement of their center of gravity etc. She could have been grabbed but her stumble could have been exacerbated by her wearing heels. Just a thought.

Posted by: IC at March 14, 2016 01:59 PM (a0IVu)

349 Anybody have a link to Field's GoFundMe page?

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 14, 2016 01:59 PM (mEZce)

350 Would you allow me to put my hands on your mother, wife, girlfriend, or daughter, as long as I said "Tokyo train" as I copped a feel?
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 01:58 PM (LtQCz)

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Oh FFS... that aint what happened.

Hyperbole much???

Posted by: fixerupper at March 14, 2016 01:59 PM (8XRCm)

351 According to Shapiro, they're tired of the endless Trump cheerleading and ass covering.
==============

The cool kids point fingers at them and laugh.

Posted by: mrp at March 14, 2016 02:00 PM (JBggj)

352 Saw nothing that probably wouldn't happen at an Oscar's presser.

Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2016 02:00 PM (Fmupd)

353 322
I hope Fields is out of her coma soon.

#prayers

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 14, 2016 01:56 PM (TJCSB)
*snort*

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at March 14, 2016 02:00 PM (0O7c5)

354 334 In lighter news, apparently its illegal for porn actresses in Australia to have small breasts because the government thinks that leads to pedophilia and portrayals of underage sex scenes.

So they get mostly the inflated fake wobbly mams over there, I guess.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2016 01:58 PM (39g3+)

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How long before SJWs protest this as an assault on small breasted womYn's right to earn a living in the sex industry?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 14, 2016 02:00 PM (0LHZx)

355 >>>This event isn't newsworthy and caters to the worst aspects of the SJW movement.

I'd agree. If someone would have just said oops! Sorry!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at March 14, 2016 02:00 PM (0q2P7)

356 Ace I'm looking this and wondering what I'm missing that I should be upset about. That really looked to like to me tired staffers trying to keep keep up and handle their guy in a crowed room. I strongly dislike Trump and I just now today left a comment on one of Breitbarts website calling them douche bags for taking his side over hers.

Posted by: bestie21 at March 14, 2016 02:01 PM (HUeC4)

357
It's going to be like Jonestown around here if Trump gets elected.

That means another tax on liquor.

Posted by: Ed Anger at March 14, 2016 02:01 PM (RcpcZ)

358 P.S. this video appears to be a subset of the last video - as in by necessity it shows *less* than the last one.

Both videos are ambiguous (well, all three).

I discount the third video almost entirely because it shows less than the second one (just over and over in slow motion).

But none of them "prove" a great deal.

However, as I said, it's not so much the event as the reaction that is depressing. And predictable.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 14, 2016 02:01 PM (bLnSU)

359 326 "She told the WaPo reporter to write about it, she didn't keep it "private". She wasn't looking to keep it private."

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This idea that victims of battery have a moral obligation to be quiet and seek out their batterer privately and have a kumbaya moment, and if they don't they deserve whatever they get? It's batshit insane, and you're an awful person for suggesting it.

If - God forbid - someone ever assaults your wife or your child, I hope you counsel them to ask for an apology before going to the cops.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 02:01 PM (NDVSb)

360 They're resigning over Breitbart's response to Shapiro's departure (deleted Breitbart post archived link in nick).
Posted by: baldilocks is back in LA at March 14, 2016 01:59 PM (ys2UW)

They're resigning because Brietbart's management backed Trump over their own reporter. In the face of overwhelming evidence.

Posted by: Iblis at March 14, 2016 02:01 PM (9221z)

361 They're resigning over Breitbart's response to Shapiro's departure (deleted Breitbart post archived link in nick).

Yeah I think Shaprio got out while the getting is good and the rest are annoyed at how the organization is responding. Its been pretty downhill ever since Andrew died, and accelerating.

I can't ever spell accelerating right, I always have to spellcheck it. One l, two c's.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2016 02:01 PM (39g3+)

362 337 "It's going to be like Jonestown around here"

It going to flood?
Posted by: Skeezix

Yeah, the Flav-R-Aid dam will break and the whole valley will be inundated.

Posted by: zombie at March 14, 2016 02:01 PM (jBuUi)

363

By the time she demanded an apology she had already told a WaPo reporter to write about it. In fact she did that almost immediately. She was never looking to keep it private

Posted by: ThunderB at March 14, 2016 02:01 PM (zOTsN)

364 If you saw this video, with absolutely no story around it, would you even notice anything?

Posted by: Tami at March 14, 2016 01:27 PM (v0/PR)

Exactly. A woman was jostled in a crowd. Something that happens so often we have a word for it: "jostled".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 14, 2016 02:01 PM (/i7Ua)

365 322 I hope Fields is out of her coma soon.

#prayers
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 14, 2016 01:56 PM (TJCSB)

When is the candlelight vigil?

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 14, 2016 02:01 PM (c4yY7)

366 " they're tired of the endless Trump cheerleading "

I don't know...they are saying Cruz is gonna win most of Illinois delagtes now.

Posted by: Skeezix at March 14, 2016 02:01 PM (WnCSK)

367 "How many links do you want? Do your own googling: michelle fields whore"

You're the one implying the Trump campaign has called her a whore. If it was so easy to prove, why send me on a goose chase when you could just post the evidence yourself? You could have provided the link in the time it took you to post.

Or do you mean some random asshats on the internet called her a whore? Kinda like GamerGate, eh? Is that who you are aligning yourself with? Some anon jerk called her names, so all Trump supporters must disavow him?

I'm for Cruz, btw. Its just that this appears stupid, and the same gotcha games will be played on him if Trump falls.

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 02:01 PM (V/X7u)

368 348 Posted by: IC at March 14, 2016 01:59 PM (a0IVu)

Maybe, then again I am betting she wears heels...a.lot.

//Seth Mcfarland

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 02:01 PM (g8Hfr)

369 Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 14, 2016 01:54 PM (KkVB6)

In the deleted post, they used Shapiro's dad's pseudonym in the by-line, put Ben's face inside a yellow-bordered star and doxed him. It's gone way past the Fields controversy now.

Posted by: baldilocks is back in LA at March 14, 2016 02:02 PM (ys2UW)

370 Man, I thought the last thread was a trainwreck!

Posted by: Hadoop at March 14, 2016 02:02 PM (2X7pN)

371 Reporters quit Trumpbart, for this?

Posted by: scofflaw_x at March 14, 2016 01:56 PM (y9ZJX)

Remember to pack your Outrage Outlet flare gun before you jump ship from your current job! Perfect for signaling where you stand to prospective employers! Let your virtuous light shine through our pyrotechnics!*

*Not responsible for reputational damage from pulling the trigger before jumping ship.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Let Them Know Where You Stand with the Outrage Outlet Flare Gun! at March 14, 2016 02:02 PM (hLRSq)

372 Trump's staff can be a-holes, but the video makes it clear that this really was a big fat nothing. It is unbelievable to me that the"# nevertrump" crowd is doubling down on this total non-story. You guys just look silly at this point.

Posted by: TellingSomeTruth at March 14, 2016 02:02 PM (/oAxR)

373 and now you know why I am resigned and largely indifferent to our impending trip down Marxism lane with Grammy H in charge.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 01:54 PM (g8Hfr)

Oh, I think there's a fair chance The Minders will find a way to put someone more pliable in place Just In Time (adjusts tinfoil hat).

Though it looks like there's less and less need to with everyone else dissolving into crowds of shouting sports fans.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 14, 2016 02:02 PM (bLnSU)

374 she and maggie were shaken because they had to kill people....not walkers...living breathing people....she hasn't lost her nerve....she just didn't want to have to kill people.....

Didn't slow her down at Terminus.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2016 02:02 PM (UC5ui)

375 >>>
We're on AoS. If you're going to tar AoS commentors with "whore" accusations, you're going to have to cite AoS comments, not some other cesspool on the Internets.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 01:44 PM (uURQL)>>>

>>>Keep defending the attention whore calling this assault, Lol
Posted by: Manco at March 14, 2016 01:21 PM (Duizy)>>>

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 02:02 PM (4ueYo)

376 zombie for threadwinner.

At this late time, no one's mind is going to be changed about Trump.

Can we get a Hillary or commie bashing thread? I miss those. :-(

But, ace's house. Sigh

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 14, 2016 02:02 PM (4Uxmv)

377 Does ace know this reporter personally? Just curious coz I understand personal loyalty.

Posted by: @votermom at March 14, 2016 02:03 PM (cbfNE)

378 338 NOOD Trump an insensitive, cisgendered member of the patriarchy thread

Don't see it.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 01:58 PM (uURQL)

Joking around with comment #282

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 14, 2016 02:03 PM (mEZce)

379 Political malpractice - Trump should have stayed out of it and Lewandowski should have issued a mild, private apology.

If Trump gets the nomination we can expect many months more of the never ending drama that follows in his chaotic wake. If he somehow wins (which I highly doubt but you never know) we'll have 4 years of this drama.

Marvelous....just marvelous.

Posted by: Jill v2 at March 14, 2016 02:03 PM (1+uyO)

380 Yep. This is where I'm at. The video shows the incident was embarrassingly benign, but if it had just been addressed with an admission and apology then this whole shitstorm could've been avoided.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston

I'm not so sure, once this became something and everyone was watching, an apology could be an admission and then you have to fire them for the smallest offense, which is what this was.

Do you really think a private apology to this woman would have fixed everything? I don't.

Posted by: Baldwin at March 14, 2016 02:03 PM (icbE4)

381 372 Trump's staff can be a-holes, but the video makes it clear that this really was a big fat nothing. It is unbelievable to me that the"# nevertrump" crowd is doubling down on this total non-story. You guys just look silly at this point.
Posted by: TellingSomeTruth at March 14, 2016 02:02 PM (/oAxR)

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When have the NOT looked silly?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 14, 2016 02:03 PM (0LHZx)

382 Yeah, this is what I don't get. If these videos really just show nothing at all and she's a lying liar who bruised herself, why are all these Breitbart people now up and resigning over it? Including these two guys, plus Fields, Shapiro, and I read Shaprio's dad was working there and has now resigned, plus the PR guy the other day, bad rumors of a lot more looking to get out of their non-compete contracts so they can leave, too. That's six gone over this, minimum. The organization is imploding.

Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at March 14, 2016 01:54 PM (KkVB6)

I think the resignations are occurring because those resigning did not think BB stood by their colleague. I could be quite wrong about that.

Posted by: RickZ at March 14, 2016 02:03 PM (7hoqr)

383 she and maggie were shaken because they had to kill people....not walkers...living breathing people....she hasn't lost her nerve....she just didn't want to have to kill people.....
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at March 14, 2016 01:59 PM (0O7c5)

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Yeah... but that never bothered Carol before. Carol killed the sick people in that cell that were Tyreses friends. Burnt Em up. Carol killed Lizzy (look at the flowers Liz) without even batting an eye. Carol WANTED to kill Morgan for not killing the werewolf and letting him get out.

It would be a shame to have Carol lose her nerve.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 14, 2016 02:03 PM (8XRCm)

384 Teh Donald should just cite the precedent set by the Affurmatif Axshun Preznit, and accepted by the sycophantic boot licking media and just say they we're punching back twice as hard after getting in her face.

And then he should say he was wrong and apologize.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 14, 2016 02:03 PM (i0ykY)

385
322 I hope Fields is out of her coma soon.

#prayers

It's too late - I hear she's joined Buzzion.

Posted by: Ed Anger at March 14, 2016 02:03 PM (RcpcZ)

386 Its been pretty downhill ever since Andrew died, and accelerating.

I can't ever spell accelerating right, I always have to spellcheck it. One l, two c's.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2016 02:01 PM (39g3+)

They've had some good reporting. Milo is a pisser. But when they went all in for Trump it got weird.

Posted by: Iblis at March 14, 2016 02:03 PM (9221z)

387 I get it now. Ace is putting out bait and whacking those that bite the rhetorical cheese.

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 14, 2016 02:04 PM (RD7QR)

388 I had a discussion, a fairly civil one, with a Bernie supporter, and remarked that Trump might become the next president of the United States. His eyes bugged a bit and he responded "If that happens, there will be a civil war."

So, there's that.
Posted by: mrp at March 14, 2016 01:57 PM (JBggj)

You know it would solve a big moral dilemma for me if someone else started the civil war.

Posted by: Sambo at March 14, 2016 02:04 PM (q7OLJ)

389 Jesus people let's concentrate on the serious things.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 14, 2016 02:04 PM (mw8Dm)

390 365 Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 14, 2016 02:01 PM (c4yY7)

It's been ongoing since James Dean came back in the Spyder and offered her a ride....

//#StandWithFields

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 02:04 PM (g8Hfr)

391 How long before SJWs protest this as an assault on small breasted womYn's right to earn a living in the sex industry?

Remember that weird rally for sex workers in the Occupy movement? Like somehow that connects, and slavery is okay as long as women are getting sex out of it, in some twisted way?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2016 02:04 PM (39g3+)

392 If you saw this video, with absolutely no story around it, would you even notice anything?

Posted by: Tami

thread winner

Posted by: Baldwin at March 14, 2016 02:04 PM (icbE4)

393 Okay. A bet. How much to say Kasich stays in the race even if he loses OH.

Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2016 02:04 PM (Fmupd)

394 214 Now, can we have a few posts on the video of Cruz's gay-killing-pastor-friend?

The transcript says, "Kevin Swanson: Yes, Romans Chapter 1 verse 32 the Apostle Paul does says that homosexuals are worthy of death. His words not mine! And I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ! And I am not ashamed of the truth of the word of God. And I am willing to go to jail"

Saying a sin is worthy of death in God's eyes is not the same as doing what ISIS does and throwing gays off of rooftops. Especially since the basic Christian belief is that we are all sinners and worthy of eternal death/damnation.

Posted by: jim at March 14, 2016 02:04 PM (VwhRo)

395 This looks like a job for Mythbusters.

today we'll determine how many newtons of force are required to...

Posted by: Jamie H at March 14, 2016 02:04 PM (o7Ufw)

396 If I wouldn't be punished on an elementary school playground..... then it sure af doesn't need to be addressed on goddamn national news

Posted by: bob at March 14, 2016 02:04 PM (HoHqr)

397 but if it had just been addressed with an admission and apology then this whole shitstorm could've been avoided.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at March 14, 2016 01:58 PM (Rtyzj)

Public accusation and demand for an apology is an escalation and an SJW attack. A public apology is proof of guilt and means #WarOnWoman and #TrumpIsViolence.

The only way there could have been an apology is if Fields privately contacted Corey and asked for an apology.

You'll note that in Fields' own words, she doesn't say she ever contacted Corey privately to seek a reconciliation. She never gave them the option of an apology - she went for the public apology which is an escalation.

So I'm fine with the current state of things. Let her seek her 15 minutes of fame, Never Apologize to her, and let's see which "conservative" figures are Stuck on Stupid and insist on giving the Left ammunition to win for a false conception of honor.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 02:04 PM (uURQL)

398 They're resigning because Brietbart's management backed Trump over their own reporter. In the face of overwhelming evidence.Posted by: Iblis at March 14, 2016 02:01 PM

Some people are easily overwhelmed. Or the word has lost its meaning.

Posted by: mega machines at March 14, 2016 02:05 PM (fbovC)

399 >>>387 I get it now. Ace is putting out bait and whacking those that bite the rhetorical cheese.

I have wondered that myself.

Posted by: El Kabong at March 14, 2016 02:05 PM (datdl)

400 Would you allow me to put my hands on your mother, wife, girlfriend, or
daughter, as long as I said "Tokyo train" as I copped a feel?

This idea that victims of battery have a moral obligation to be quiet....

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I swear we're watching different videos. WTF?

Posted by: Tami at March 14, 2016 02:05 PM (v0/PR)

401
once again, the claim changes from "he never touched her" to "I see nothing *horrible* happening."

He grabbed her, which is what she said happened. He had no right to do this, and was just trying to shut her up from asking a question.

The fact that you don't think this is "horrible' is irrelevant, as the discussion was not "Did something *horrible* happen?"

Though I would say people's longing for, or at least acceptance of, a casually violent, thuggish leader is revealing.
Posted by: Machiavelli at March 14, 2016 01:54 PM (6OScs)

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Point is that different people are seeing different things.

I think he may have pulled her arm down as he passed her. But looking directly at it, I can't tell. He could have just as easily been rotating his body NOT to touch her as he was walking in front of her.

The audio of the time is "Excuse me... thank you". Completely consistent with someone breaking in front of someone else.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 14, 2016 02:05 PM (LXJ1e)

402 Didn't slow her down at Terminus.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2016 02:02 PM (UC5ui

Terminus was self defense though, plus cannibals ew.
These guys are pretty much them. The one chick even looked like Maggie. I call her Doppelmaggie in my recap.

Posted by: @votermom at March 14, 2016 02:05 PM (cbfNE)

403 This argument reminds me in a lot of ways about the white&gold/blue&black dress thing last year.

Posted by: shillelagh at March 14, 2016 02:05 PM (L3vVL)

404 334 In lighter news, apparently its illegal for porn actresses in Australia to have small breasts because the government thinks that leads to pedophilia and portrayals of underage sex scenes.

So they get mostly the inflated fake wobbly mams over there, I guess.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2016 01:58 PM (39g3+)

I remember reading somewhere that Australians have the world's largest average cup size at something like a D. It was probably somewhere on the internet, so it must be true.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 14, 2016 02:05 PM (iHjB5)

405 >>>Keep defending the attention whore calling this assault, Lol
Posted by: Manco at March 14, 2016 01:21 PM (Duizy)>>>

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No no no... not THAT Scotsman. I want you to provide me with a TRUE Scotsman.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 02:05 PM (mVjMU)

406 I hope Fields is out of her coma soon.

#prayers

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 14, 2016 01:56 PM (TJCSB)

BREAKING: Her family has been asked to decide whether to pull the plug on her home glucose monitoring unit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 14, 2016 02:05 PM (8ZskC)

407
Thought:

Ace *IS* Michelle Fields.

Ever see the two in the same room??

Posted by: fixerupper at March 14, 2016 02:05 PM (8XRCm)

408 Is there a gofundme setup yet? Can't fathom the medical bills for Ms. Fields.

Posted by: thegiver at March 14, 2016 02:06 PM (SOVQ8)

409 Hey Ace nice to see your Pauline conversion but for the last few years now your blog has been a cesspool of anarchistic/racist America hating nihilist trash. This is what you get for pandering to and encouraging the trailer trash lowlifes with their fantasy's about breaking up the United States and "burning times" race wars.

Posted by: Agricola at March 14, 2016 02:06 PM (vcMIS)

410 >>>>>" It's not the crime, it's the coverup. Ace never said it was a brutal
grap-and-yank, just that it was enough to warrant an acknowledgment and
apology. That Team Trump would rather melt down a friendly news out than
do that more pittance tells you a lot.

Posted by: Steves28 at March 14, 2016 01:23 PM (Ory8r)"

Yep. This is where I'm at. The video shows the incident was
embarrassingly benign, but if it had just been addressed with an
admission and apology then this whole shitstorm could've been avoided.
.
.
.
.Apologize for what? I mean that as a serious question. By the time anyone knew about this it had exploded into a minefield for anyone associated with Trump and if his campaign had apologized it would have been all over the MSM.......Trump campaign manager apologizes for grabbing and throwing a woman reporter to the ground, etc,.....which from the numerous videos did not happen the way she claims it did.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 14, 2016 02:06 PM (iONHu)

411 I had a discussion, a fairly civil one, with a Bernie supporter, and remarked that Trump might become the next president of the United States. His eyes bugged a bit and he responded "If that happens, there will be a civil war."

So, there's that.

Posted by: mrp at March 14, 2016 01:57 PM (JBggj)

Yes Suh! the Great War of Liberal Aggression all started when they tried to reinforce and OWS sit in occurring in Charlestown...

Posted by: Future Historian at March 14, 2016 02:06 PM (RK8AH)

412 "This idea that victims of battery have a moral obligation to be quiet"

OMG are you kidding me? You're the guy at the supermarket who's shoulder I accidentally grabbed, and you're on the line with 911 talking about battery & assault and the Conspiracy of Silence.

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 02:06 PM (V/X7u)

413 Put me down in the BFD column and not in a Biden way. So a reporter was not treated with the respect to which she deems herself entitled. And, incidentally, a reporter calling for civility is like BJ Clinton calling for chastity.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 14, 2016 02:06 PM (YNum9)

414 Yeah I read that on google myself.

Posted by: bestie21 at March 14, 2016 02:06 PM (HUeC4)

415 This is getting to the point of where I don't know who to believe, listen to or ignore.

Posted by: Jaimo at March 14, 2016 02:06 PM (9U1OG)

416 Didn't slow her down at Terminus.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2016 02:02 PM (UC5ui)
ok fine.....actually...she's been killing people all along...

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at March 14, 2016 02:06 PM (0O7c5)

417
Do you really think a private apology to this woman would have fixed everything? I don't.

No, and she's clearly working this like a Jamaican on his 4th job* to get publicity and enhance her career. Plus, it is an attempt to portray Trump as a thug and a bully, so that thuggish behavior toward him is just a defensive, reasonable response!

*obscure In Living Color joke

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2016 02:06 PM (39g3+)

418 I call her Doppelmaggie in my recap.

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Nice piece of writing by the way.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 14, 2016 02:06 PM (8XRCm)

419 Hey Pete

She's the claiming she wanted to keep I private. Read what I wrote. I said it's her right to go public. But she claims she wanted to keep it private after already telling a WaPo reporter to write about it

It's about credibility, belief in her word. Even the latest video doesn't show an arm grab or who did it. You see jostling.

No yanking. No pulling down. No almost falling. You have to take her word on the grabbing. I'm finding that hard to do

And I was firmly in her camp, until this video. I used to be a criminal prosecutor. This whole thing is less than nothing

Posted by: ThunderB at March 14, 2016 02:06 PM (zOTsN)

420 360 They're resigning because Brietbart's management backed Trump over their own reporter. In the face of overwhelming evidence.
-------------------------------------------------

"overwhelming evidence" sounds remarkably like "the science is settled", and equally kooky.

Everyone here has seen the same videos you've seen and don't agree the video shows anything more serious than a jostle. This girl has a new book coming out next month, was looking for a new job on TV and is a member of the most unscrupulous profession on earth, next to Mexican cartel leader.

I don't support Trump, but those who are attacking him for not firing his most critical advisor over an equivocal (at most!) assertion are loony. This is politics.

Posted by: MTF at March 14, 2016 02:06 PM (TxJGV)

421 Now that we're done with the Trump video can we talk about Gateway's tie switching pastor video?

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 02:06 PM (kkOK3)

422 "I swear we're watching different videos. WTF?
Posted by: Tami"
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I can't keep your bullshit excuses straight. Was Fields touched against her will, or not?

if she was, it's battery.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (LtQCz)

423 This idea that victims of battery have a moral obligation to be quiet and seek out their batterer privately and have a kumbaya moment, and if they don't they deserve whatever they get? It's batshit insane, and you're an awful person for suggesting it.

Why pussyfoot about the facts, Dishonest Pete?

Fields was RAPED, and this video is PROOF.

Lock Corey up.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (uURQL)

424 hey mierda, JODETE.

Posted by: ... at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (nLf34)

425 373 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 14, 2016 02:02 PM (bLnSU)

Yeah the thing is Mero the GOP will never avoid the taint of "Duh Donald" b/c media are lying assholes....

thus no matter what Jedi Mind Tricks the GOP deploys to deny Trump the win the fact is his base will be enraged AND we are still stuck with his aroma....

2016 the continuation of the Obama Error

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (g8Hfr)

426 Though it actually said he was a former cooed english major from CU Berkley or something. Ace was hot. Call me!

Posted by: bestie21 at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (HUeC4)

427 "This is what you get for pandering to and encouraging the trailer trash lowlifes with their fantasy's about breaking up the United States and "burning times" race wars."

"We need a return to civility, you bastards!" he implored.

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (V/X7u)

428 This is what you get for pandering to and encouraging the trailer trash lowlifes with their fantasy's about breaking up the United States and "burning times" race wars.

You seem very... concerned...

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (39g3+)

429 as I copped a feel?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 01:58 PM (LtQCz)

Well, Pete. I must have missed the cop-a-feel moment in both the video and Ms. Fields "testimony".
Perhaps you can elaborate? In the absence of that, I will not respond to your straw-man.
In any event I was referring to the uniformed railroad "security" employed on platforms to either stuff folks in cars or pull them out as necessary to keep folks safe and the trains running on time. People accept that as the price they pay to travel, sort of like we do with the TSA.
Cheers.

Posted by: Joe Mama at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (NQmg1)

430 Wow - absolutely DAMNING video! It is ABJECTLY sad when web sites and commentators you used to like, resort to the same "make up shit" and smear tactics we have seen the left employ for so long.

Posted by: John Graham at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (feEL5)

431 They're resigning because Brietbart's management backed Trump over their own reporter. In the face of overwhelming evidence.
Posted by: Iblis at March 14, 2016 02:01 PM (9221z)

That too.

Posted by: baldilocks is back in LA at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (ys2UW)

432 This shows you still dont get it, Ace: "...would-be Trump allies like the...immigration-restriction movement..."

Immigration wouldn't be on the table for discussion had it not been for Trump. As for Cruz, blaming Trump for what George Soros wrought in Chicago is a bridge too far for me, and he lost my primary vote. In comparison, your "bridge too far" seems to center on a kerfuffle. Were Breitbart alive he would have loved Trump's "in your face" responses to our Beltway Betters. But then, you're no Breitbart.

Posted by: Born Free at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (h+7di)

433
If that we're cause for action, I could sue someone nearly every day of my life.
Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at March 14, 2016 01:34 PM (DLIpz)

I have never been grabbed by anyone in a crowd and I've been in a lot of very big packed crowds. Jostled yes, usually with an apology, but grabbed, no.

Who are these people who are grabbing you everyday?

BTW, I'm very excited about your upcoming nuptials.

Posted by: stace at March 14, 2016 02:08 PM (ozZau)

434 423 Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (uURQL)

She was mind raped AND mattress raped...

//Anita Sarkeeszian and Emma SuckoWitz

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 02:08 PM (g8Hfr)

435 Jesus people let's concentrate on the serious things.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 14, 2016 02:04 PM (mw8Dm)

This is serious. We are searching with precise, geometric for the Silver Bullet that will bring down the Golden Scalp Weasel and cause Trump to fall. Just because nothing has worked so far doesn't mean their isn't a magic weapon out there.

So pass me that catalog listing "Of Slaying" weapons, will you?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Let Them Know Where You Stand with the Outrage Outlet Flare Gun! at March 14, 2016 02:09 PM (hLRSq)

436 I see the last 8 years have made people do frustrated they've snapped.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 14, 2016 02:09 PM (U+nHb)

437 421
Now that we're done with the Trump video can we talk about Gateway's tie switching pastor video?

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 02:06 PM (kkOK3)

?? "Tie switching"? I heard the vid of the pastor was spliced. My first thought was NOW Gateway Pundit is nutz too?Any links to the splicing?

Posted by: Mimzey at March 14, 2016 02:09 PM (aRUb8)

438 434 should not be long for this Blog

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 14, 2016 02:09 PM (mw8Dm)

439 Yeah... but that never bothered Carol before. Carol killed the sick people in that cell that were Tyreses friends. Burnt Em up. Carol killed Lizzy (look at the flowers Liz) without even batting an eye. Carol WANTED to kill Morgan for not killing the werewolf and letting him get out.

It would be a shame to have Carol lose her nerve.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 14, 2016 02:03 PM (8XRCm)

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Carol almost single handily destroyed Terminus. Hell she was killing the Wolves just three episodes ago without so much as batting an eye.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 14, 2016 02:09 PM (LXJ1e)

440 Also, Clock Boy just wanted to show his experiment to his Science Teacher, you bigots!

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 02:09 PM (V/X7u)

441 Jesus people let's concentrate on the serious things.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 14, 2016 02:04 PM (mw8Dm)[i/]

Agreed.

Wanna meet for a drink?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 14, 2016 02:09 PM (Zu3d9)

442 It never happened. It may have happened but Lewandoski wasn't there. It may have happened but it was a security guard and Lewandoski wasn't there. Lewandoski was in the area but nothing happened. Lewandoski was in the area and may have just blocked her from reaching Trump but he did not grab her. Lewandoski may have grabbed her but it was just incidental and no way did he throw her to the ground like she said.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 14, 2016 02:09 PM (PkIg+)

443 This is what I've learned today.

1. The accusation is probably mostly correct, in that Michelle Fields was probably inappropriately grabbed and due a very minor apology.

2. Team Trump would rather go into full meltdown than actually do what real men do when they make a small mistake.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at March 14, 2016 02:10 PM (0q2P7)

444 I can't keep your bullshit excuses straight. Was Fields touched against her will, or not?

if she was, it's battery.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (LtQCz)

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P-p-p--please. M-m-m-m-make him st-st-st-stop.

Posted by: The Chicken at March 14, 2016 02:10 PM (8XRCm)

445 When this little story first broke the Trump campaign - Trump himself - couldn't just have said:

"We're sorry Ms. Fields was hurt. We hope she's okay but we believe that no one with our campaign caused this to happen."

No, that's being PC. That's not being a tough guy. That's the Establishment talk.

It's a small story. Fields was being overly dramatic.

But the Trump campaign and its sycophantic supporters had to play the tough guy. Stupid tough guys but tough guys.

Right, we want this crowd running the country. Which country is that? I dunno, maybe Argentina? Brazil? Some banana republic okay but not this damned country.

Posted by: SteveMG at March 14, 2016 02:10 PM (WbDvz)

446

Sure.. Wednesday would be good

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 14, 2016 02:10 PM (mw8Dm)

447 I think little cookie boy getting killed hit Carol harder than she'd like to admit.

Posted by: @votermom at March 14, 2016 02:10 PM (cbfNE)

448 "No yanking. No pulling down. No almost falling. You have to take her word on the grabbing. I'm finding that hard to do."
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We don't just have her word; we have another witness. Look, I don't know if this video proves anything. But the reaction of the Trump campaign and Trump's supporters has been appalling, and has confirmed everything that the people who hate conservatives in general have said about Trump.

I want to believe that his supporters are good people, and that Trump has been unfairly maligned. But my goodness, the reaction incident has shown the Trumpkins to be grade-A assholes. No class at all from Trump or his fans. None.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 02:10 PM (NDVSb)

449 I had a discussion, a fairly civil one, with a Bernie supporter, and remarked that Trump might become the next president of the United States. His eyes bugged a bit and he responded "If that happens, there will be a civil war."

So, there's that.
Posted by: mrp at March 14, 2016 01:57 PM (JBggj)

_____

No there won't. We're 80% of the way to socialism already. We're the frog in the water and it's getting a little warm, but we're not jumping out of the pot any time soon.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 14, 2016 02:10 PM (0LHZx)

450 Because of this incident Michelle Fields is getting the Wounded Warrior Project to help with all the Medical bills.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 14, 2016 02:10 PM (c4yY7)

451
Timeout for me until the place returns to some semblance of sanity.

This isn't discourse/debate, it's bullshit. And I believe thew current state of affairs in the country has a great deal to do with what I see here.

In the interim, please stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 14, 2016 02:10 PM (P/8aq)

452 >>Terminus was self defense though, plus cannibals ew.

These guys are pretty much them. The one chick even looked like Maggie. I call her Doppelmaggie in my recap.

Think what they're attempting to show w/Carol is the emotional toll/guilt over being the aggressors. IIRC, this is the first time the group has just attacked as an offense instead of a defense. They're acting as mercenaries in order to get food from the settlement being harassed by Negan's crew.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2016 02:10 PM (NOIQH)

453 Was she trying to grab the back of Trump's coat? Hmmm.

Posted by: Cornfusedyetagain at March 14, 2016 02:11 PM (32cZc)

454 You know what we need? Oliver Stone to make a movie about this. He could call it BFD.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 14, 2016 02:11 PM (YNum9)

455 I'm looking for that link and found this gem from Ace on twitter: "Please don't call Sandra Fluke a slut. Respect her for what she is, a shiftless rent-a-cooch from East Whoreville.

How much value right vodka went into that tweet Ace?

Posted by: bestie21 at March 14, 2016 02:11 PM (HUeC4)

456 Posted by: Agricola at March 14, 2016 02:06 PM (vcMIS)

Any particular posts to cite or link? Asking for a friend,

Posted by: Hadoop at March 14, 2016 02:11 PM (2X7pN)

457 Breitbart site seemed to favor Trump, but certainly not everyone there was on board, some no doubt feeling Cruz was being shorted. I can imagine some dissension happening over that alone, precipitated out with this seemingly trivial incident, that became a "but they didn't apologize and instead defamed her" argument.

Then it became a stand unfortunately around her, but really more about which candidate would be supported, which no doubt has much more behind it. I'm curious about a tell all behind all the tactics and undercover work, and the various backers and histories.

But most of us will only get to see this little video and argue over grab, stumble, apologize or deny type superficial stuff.

Posted by: Illiniwek at March 14, 2016 02:11 PM (eUbDe)

458 I get it now. Ace is putting out bait and whacking those that bite the rhetorical cheese.

Posted by: joncelli, gone Shakespearean at March 14, 2016 02:04 PM (RD7QR)

Well, that became fairly clear last week and over the weekend, only apparently it's not cheese, it's crack.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 14, 2016 02:11 PM (bLnSU)

459 This is how liberty dies. While those supposedly intent on preserving it are distracted by arguments over petty bullshit.

It's getting incredibly ugly out there. Every day I'm seeing people who were supposedly on the same side a month ago bitterly denounce each other, largely over really stupid stuff.

This is how Hillary is going to just waltz in and give us Clinton 2.0 without a Gingrich lead Congress to say no.

Posted by: Epobirs at March 14, 2016 02:11 PM (IdCqF)

460 If you lie about the little things you'll lie about the big things.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 14, 2016 02:11 PM (PkIg+)

461 ok fine.....actually...she's been killing people all along...

As someone else said, I hope she isn't losing her nerve.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2016 02:11 PM (UC5ui)

462 Nice backpedaling, Trumpkins. You've gone from arguing that he never grabbed her, not no way, not no how, to trying to spin about how HARD he grabbed her.

Yeah, keep flying that one into the ground, eh?

Your boy lied. Outright.

Posted by: Trumps of Doom at March 14, 2016 02:11 PM (CcpUn)

463 Where there is a flinch, there is a yank.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 14, 2016 02:11 PM (NUqwG)

464 I had a discussion, a fairly civil one, with a Bernie supporter

How? Why?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 14, 2016 02:12 PM (mw8Dm)

465 Immigration wouldn't be on the table for discussion had it not been for Trump.

Posted by: Born Free at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (h+7di)
______

Oh sure! Immigration is merely the biggest weakness of the golden boy senator from the winner-take-all 99 delegates swing-state, but nobody would ever have mentioned it without the efforts of the inventor of the wheel, Donald Trump.

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at March 14, 2016 02:12 PM (oHROq)

466 Were Breitbart alive he would have loved Trump's
"in your face" responses to our Beltway Betters. But then, you're no
Breitbart.

Posted by: Born Free at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (h+7di)

Breitbart is on record pointing out how fake Trump is and that he is no conservative. Google it.

Posted by: Mimzey at March 14, 2016 02:12 PM (aRUb8)

467 "But the Trump campaign and its sycophantic supporters had to play the tough guy. Stupid tough guys but tough guys."

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Yup. Exactly this. So obsessed with "winning" and not being politically correct that they're just going to be total fucking assholes when a light touch would have defused the whole incident.

Really, does this reflect well on Trump? Does this make anyone more likely to vote for him? This story would have disappeared if the Trumpkins weren't total skidmarks. But no, they kept it alive.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 02:12 PM (NDVSb)

468 But she always said: She kept her feet.

Selfish bitch.

Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at March 14, 2016 02:12 PM (hHVom)

469 I can't keep your bullshit excuses straight. Was Fields touched against her will, or not?

if she was, it's battery.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (LtQCz)
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Oh come on, she's two feet from the leading candidate for President, in a crowd of hungry reporters! Everyone there was jostled and many probably worse.

Arguing this is battery is nuts.

Posted by: MTF at March 14, 2016 02:13 PM (TxJGV)

470 Anyone think whether "The Chicken" is the most socked nic on the blog? It would also be hilarious if someone did a search and could tell us the most socked names every year since the blog started. I am betting Mr. Paul Anka was big in the early years.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 14, 2016 02:13 PM (iHjB5)

471 Nice piece of writing by the way.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 14, 2016 02:06 PM (8XRCm)

Thanks!

Posted by: @votermom at March 14, 2016 02:13 PM (cbfNE)

472 #BruisedWhiteArmsMatter

Posted by: Waldo Trout at March 14, 2016 02:13 PM (M1MpJ)

473 This is how Hillary is going to just waltz in and give us Clinton 2.0 without a Gingrich lead Congress to say no.

It wouldn't matter if she fought tooth and nail to get in and won legitimately.

There is no Gingrich, period. Because they are complicit.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2016 02:13 PM (UC5ui)

474 Posted by: zombie at March 14, 2016 01:47 PM (jBuUi)

"Nitpicky internecine blog-infighting" is the pretty much the entirety of Ace's schtick, with a soupcon of "covering up shit," occasional nervous breakdowns, and self-righteous moralizing. This place is about 11 years past its sell-by date.

I won't be back. Just sorry I ever gave you a cent, Ace.

Oh well, I guess that was when you were funny.

btw: "So, yeah, would-be Trump allies like the GOP, conservative movement, or
immigration-restrictionist movement: I'd be super-eager to sign up to
march under Trump's banner."

I'd think twice about using that kind of sarcasm right after Cruz hires the SL fraud Neil Bush and excuses leftist violence. It's good for the Canadian gander too.

Posted by: Megan at March 14, 2016 02:13 PM (bxsZE)

475 True, false, or foolish.... this is endless blatherthon is getting reallly, realllllllly, tedious Ace.

Posted by: vanderleun at March 14, 2016 02:13 PM (MNKUS)

476
I can't keep your bullshit excuses straight. Was Fields touched against her will, or not?

if she was, it's battery.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (LtQCz)

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Under that definition there are probably 1 billion cases of battery in the U.S. everyday.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 14, 2016 02:13 PM (LXJ1e)

477 452
Timeout for me until the place returns to some semblance of sanity.

This isn't discourse/debate, it's bullshit. And I believe thew current state of affairs in the country has a great deal to do with what I see here.

In the interim, please stay safe.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 14, 2016 02:10 PM (P/

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I'm tempted to do the same. The deep-end is, well.......deep.

Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2016 02:13 PM (Fmupd)

478 Posted by: bestie21 at March 14, 2016 02:11 PM (HUeC4)
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That whore chose to go public with her testimony.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (NUqwG)

479 Meanwhile (that's an O/T y'all), Vladimir Putin has announced a "partial" pullout of Russian troops from Syria. Your guess is as good as mine what, if anything, this means.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (9krrF)

480 >>I had a discussion, a fairly civil one, with a Bernie supporter, and
remarked that Trump might become the next president of the United
States. His eyes bugged a bit and he responded "If that happens, there
will be a civil war."

Nice. Whose fault will it be when America is no longer a place with a peaceful transfer of power every 4-8 years?

Recall how conservatives/GOP voters behaved when Obama won.
Not happy, but no one declared civil war.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (NOIQH)

481 408 Is there a gofundme setup yet? Can't fathom the medical bills for Ms. Fields.

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excuse me sir, that action would be worthy of a purple heart in my day.

Posted by: john Kerry at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (o7Ufw)

482 "overwhelming evidence" sounds remarkably like "the science is settled", and equally kooky.

Everyone here has seen the same videos you've seen and don't agree the video shows anything more serious than a jostle. This girl has a new book coming out next month, was looking for a new job on TV and is a member of the most unscrupulous profession on earth, next to Mexican cartel leader.

I don't support Trump, but those who are attacking him for not firing his most critical advisor over an equivocal (at most!) assertion are loony. This is politics.
Posted by: MTF at March 14, 2016 02:06 PM (TxJGV)

Who said anything about Trump firing anyone? Its about Breitbart backing their reporter. Do you seriously think that the man who hijacked Anthony Weiner's press conference would take the side of Donald Trump (or any other politician for that matter) over his own staff? No! It'd be #FUCK YOU, WAR.
Breitbart.com jumped on Trump for hits. (Just like CBS said they've done) and now they've screwed themselves.

Posted by: Iblis at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (9221z)

483 I had a discussion, a fairly civil one, with a Bernie supporter

How?

Use illustrations with animals and very small words.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (8ZskC)

484 This thread is absolutely crawling with new nics, claiming this is the worst assault in the history of assaults.

Posted by: MTF at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (TxJGV)

485 All I wanted was an apology and I didn't get one, so I filed a police report. Then I got my reporter buddies to write about my assault , my attack, my altercation.

Never let an opportunity for attention to my soon to be published book pass by!

Posted by: Cornfusedyetagain at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (32cZc)

486 Carol / Glenn 2016!

Posted by: @votermom at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (cbfNE)

487 Ace *IS* Michelle Fields.

A new twist on the "Nice tits" meme.

Posted by: DaveA at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (DL2i+)

488 Ace is in full retard mode. Next headline will be: "Chicago protests staged by Trump to deflect from jostlegate!"

Posted by: MoveOn at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (GHtJF)

489 once again, the claim changes from "he never touched her" to "I see nothing *horrible* happening."

He grabbed her, which is what she said happened. He had no right to do this, and was just trying to shut her up from asking a question.

The fact that you don't think this is "horrible' is irrelevant, as the discussion was not "Did something *horrible* happen?"

Though I would say people's longing for, or at least acceptance of, a casually violent, thuggish leader is revealing.

Posted by: ace at March 14, 2016 01:43 PM (dciA+)

You're assuming that this was something more than a typical clearing of a security corridor for Trump.

I'm not seeing it.

Every celebrity has frankly much rougher clearing of the space around the celeb than what is seen here.

This Fields chick isn't so famous or so physically striking that anybody's going to remember her.

For Corey, it was probably just an average night clearing space for the boss.

And the claim that she was almost thrown to the ground-

probably did sound like a nutcase.

Because Corey would remember no such thing and nothing so dramatic.

Plus, her record of previous claims- probably confirms the "nut" diagnosis.

Frankly, with all the threats that I'm sure Trump has been getting-

I'm surprised that it wasn't a rough removal instead of what for security looks very gentle.

and that she's a woman makes no difference-

I'm sure you've heard of that frail flower of womanhood Squeaky Fromm and her presidential adventure.

And no I'm not a Trump guy.

Cruz is my first choice by far.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (0cMkb)

490 Some of you here are so enamored with Trump that the only thing I can think to compare it to are the delusional Obama supporters unwavering support.

He may well become president. "In a Democratic society we can have anything we want, but somehow we always get what we deserve"

I realize this may be unpopular, but I don't view Trump as the Messiah.

Also, Michelle Fields, beautiful.

Posted by: The Jackhole at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (3mTyP)

491 Ctrl F ace, for some fun. Dude is on fire today and should be batting for the Cardinals.

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (lNK80)

492 Think what they're attempting to show w/Carol is the emotional toll/guilt over being the aggressors. IIRC, this is the first time the group has just attacked as an offense instead of a defense. They're acting as mercenaries in order to get food from the settlement being harassed by Negan's crew.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2016 02:10 PM (NOIQH)

----

The whole show, all seasons, basically examines the question "What would you do to survive".

Here's a mind bender. Is the group now.... collectively worse than Shane ever was.

Ponder that for a moment.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (8XRCm)

493 It's not like he clocked the delusional bitch.

Posted by: mugiwara at March 14, 2016 02:15 PM (3xae+)

494 I see that the LGF-ization has begun.

Posted by: ChicagoXile at March 14, 2016 02:15 PM (tNhg/)

495 When have the NOT looked silly?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 14, 2016 02:03 PM (0LHZx)

Says a guy who calls himself 'Monsieur Moo Moo'.

Posted by: troyriser at March 14, 2016 02:15 PM (UWlp+)

496 I just read the side bar about banning and how saying you are out will get you banned.

After the events over the weekend I am willingly admitting I am out...... Of milk.

Posted by: Picric at March 14, 2016 02:15 PM (+CKrW)

497 I watched the video .. that's it ?
really ?
this is what everyone is apoplectic about ?

what am I missing here ? based on just this video I don't see the big kerfuffle .. bad angle ?

p.s Cruz supporter here, but come on ...

Posted by: Big Star at March 14, 2016 02:15 PM (/wt4l)

498 Team Trump would rather go into full meltdown than actually do what real men do when they make a small mistake.

This is the other side of the coin to FYNQ. We all love it when Trump refuses to bow to the Social Justice types and cave in when they claimed offense. But that attitude does not come in isolation, he'll very reluctant to apologize for anything because sign of weakness, gives opponents upper hand, bad negotiating and ego almost as big as Obama's.

So, good with the bad, I guess. As you noted (I believe accurately) mild apology, minor incident.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2016 02:15 PM (39g3+)

499 479 Meanwhile (that's an O/T y'all), Vladimir Putin has announced a "partial" pullout of Russian troops from Syria. Your guess is as good as mine what, if anything, this means.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (9krrF)

He's afraid Syria might get a little bit pregnant?

Posted by: Iblis at March 14, 2016 02:15 PM (9221z)

500 Honestly I think the Trump camp has moved on from this; since she filed a police report and it is an active investigation, they are probably going to wait for the police to do their jobs and come up with a recommendation. Even most of the blogs have quite talking about this since there are far juicier bits to gossip about.

Posted by: IC at March 14, 2016 02:15 PM (a0IVu)

501 So, how's Ted Cruz doing in Ohio?

Posted by: mrp at March 14, 2016 02:15 PM (JBggj)

502 Pete

I think this whole video kerfuffle is nothing

What is disgusting is the anti Shapiro article published and taken down this morning with a Mogan David around his face,

Holocaust imagery

Fuck Breitbart for that, but not Fields

Posted by: ThunderB at March 14, 2016 02:15 PM (zOTsN)

503 I was really hoping that this was video where you could actually see something definitive so that this deeply stupid episode could come to a merciful end one way or another, but no.

To me, it does look like she could have been yanked aside briefly (however hard she was grabbed) and looks up with a surprised, WTF expression on her face.

But then I think she made a big, showy deal out of it, egged on by that Ferris guy. Maybe she did deserve an apology, but the way this was handled made it unlikely she would get one. We'll see what happens with the filed charges.

Maybe it could rest until then? :: shrugs fatalistically::

Posted by: Gem at March 14, 2016 02:15 PM (c+gwp)

504 Not original...

But this is a Rorschach test which determines both Trumpmania, and Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Posted by: Don Quixote at March 14, 2016 02:15 PM (RK8AH)

505 I can't keep your bullshit excuses straight. Was Fields touched against her will, or not?

if she was, it's battery.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (LtQCz)

Oh.dear.Lord.

I have made no excuses for Trump. I'm not a fan or supporter. I will vote for Cruz tomorrow in Missouri's primary. So lose the 'Trump fanboi' shtick.

Posted by: Tami at March 14, 2016 02:16 PM (v0/PR)

506 "Oh come on, she's two feet from the leading candidate for President, in a crowd of hungry reporters! Everyone there was jostled and many probably worse. "

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Then just say that from the start. You know what? I would have bought that.

But no, no: we had to get the full "nuts & sluts" defense, right out of the Sid Blumental & James Carville playbook.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 02:16 PM (mVjMU)

507 > This does not merit a public apology, sorry, and (AND!) this neuters one of the media's most potent weapons, drawing republican candidates into these metatheatrical apology Olympics, gagging their campaign. We've been losing with gentlemen for decades, it's time to BEAT THE SOCIALISTS.

This. What's demonstrated is a profound lack of maturity on all fronts. A sissy journalist that is making a big deal out of something that is truly nothing at all. And then some other sissy journalists and bloggers that don't actually have the stomach to stand up to the left. They like to wax poetic on the internet and media, but push comes to shove and they're powder puffs. If ace thinks this incident, some lady being bumped into, warrants cries of fascism, then heaven help him when times actually get rough. This demonstrates total lack of comprehension for what's going on out there in the real world.

What people ought to be talking about is the fact that a mob of leftist terrorists attacked a completely peaceful gathering of Republicans in Chicago on Friday and how they are publicly planning to do it again and again and again. More than that we should be talking about Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich defending those terrorists and seizing it as an opportunity to score political points. This is it folks. This is that moment when lines get drawn in the sand, you must choose one or the other sand. There is no being neutral, you're on one side or the other. Period. Trump may be a jerk and all that, but I damn sure know what side I'm on. The left wants to divide us. They want us to implode.

Posted by: Kenja Time at March 14, 2016 02:16 PM (PCgut)

508 This race is smoking out how which people can report or blog on these events without bringing personal ties or animosities so far into the mix that they lose credibility. Ben Shapiro involved = favorable spin.

This "incident" is also a litmus test for the manners over substance Right which Ace has discussed here before. He's clearly on the "manners" side here. They're the Boy Who Cried Hitler, people are tired of it, and Ace does no one but the Never Trump crowd any service by pushing "Trumpers are the New Brownshirts" hysteria.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 14, 2016 02:16 PM (hC9FD)

509 This thread is absolutely crawling with new nics, claiming this is the worst assault in the history of assaults.
Posted by: MTF at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (TxJGV)

No one anywhere is saying that.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 14, 2016 02:16 PM (PkIg+)

510 >>I had a discussion, a fairly civil one, with a Bernie supporter

How? Why?
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Just trying to get a Starbucks.

Posted by: Aviator at March 14, 2016 02:16 PM (c7vUv)

511 Who bitch this is?

Posted by: Corey Landowski at March 14, 2016 02:16 PM (TJCSB)

512
Anyone think whether "The Chicken" is the most socked nic on the blog?

Nah, "Greg" or some variation, like "gerg!"

Posted by: Hadoop at March 14, 2016 02:17 PM (2X7pN)

513 I can't keep your bullshit excuses straight. Was Fields touched against her will, or not?
if she was, it's battery.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (LtQCz)

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Under that definition there are probably 1 billion cases of battery in the U.S. everyday.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 14, 2016 02:13 PM (LXJ1e)

A woman touched against her will isn't battery. It's RAPE.

#WarOnWomen

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 02:17 PM (uURQL)

514 The video clearly shows him pulling her back, did he throw her to the ground of course not, she never said that, but you know if you're walking forward and not expecting to be grabbed and pulled backwards, I'm sure it would feel a little jarring and surprising. I think she was clearly just shocked by it. The problem was the denial and then trying to make her sound like a lunatic. Why is it so damn hard just to say, sorry, I didn't mean to grab you so hard, or something like that. And some of the reaction by trump supporters is just sad, yet predictable.

Posted by: spypeach at March 14, 2016 02:17 PM (nyYhO)

515 Lewandoski is a doughy-handed pussy who suddenly, because he is surrounded by security personnel, he thinks he's in charge of security.

A lifetime of writing puff-piece political pablum and now he's Chuck Norris.

Posted by: Kim Jong Un at March 14, 2016 02:17 PM (NjiZL)

516 Says a guy who calls himself 'Monsieur Moo Moo'.

He's got a point.

Fields is really pretty. Amazing hair, I wonder how long that takes to ready every day? Imagine going on a date with her. You'd die of old age in the car waiting.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2016 02:17 PM (39g3+)

517 A man touched against his will is hubba hubba.

Unless it's a bear.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 02:17 PM (uURQL)

518 479 Meanwhile (that's an O/T y'all), Vladimir Putin has announced a "partial" pullout of Russian troops from Syria. Your guess is as good as mine what, if anything, this means.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (9krrF)

With Putin? This could mean he is planning to use nukes, or he is pulling his soldiers back so they can look for a lost contact someone dropped.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 14, 2016 02:17 PM (iHjB5)

519 Is this the third or fourth article on Fields?

Posted by: jwest at March 14, 2016 02:17 PM (Zs4uk)

520 Timeout for me until the place returns to some semblance of sanity.

This isn't discourse/debate, it's bullshit. And I believe thew current
state of affairs in the country has a great deal to do with what I see
here.

In the interim, please stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa
====
I'm joining you.

I'll check the headlines tomorrow evening.

So, it's gonna be Trump in FL and OH--but, just barely.

Is there Cruz-mentum?

IDK.

Trump came into this game with 2 aces--name recognition and willingness to speak to what the people wanted on immigration.

That hasn't changed.

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 14, 2016 02:17 PM (fQ/0p)

521 Posted by: Tami at March 14, 2016 02:16 PM (v0/PR)

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You live in Missouri??

*dons Johnny Carson voice**

I did not know that.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 14, 2016 02:18 PM (8XRCm)

522 438 Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 14, 2016 02:09 PM (mw8Dm)

Yeah NGU?

Maybe you're right.

I see this kerfuffle by THIS actor and am reminded she falsely accused Allen West of Sexual Impropriety....

all that is missing is an artistic mattress or a seat on twitter's safety council.

At any rate I'll either get banned or I won't...

won't alter this being a stupid topic and combination Psychology test.

Trump won't apologize b/c assholes are gonna asshole.

Fields can't be trusted because lie upon lie.

Ladies and gentlemen YOUR right wing newsbuzz of the week.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 02:18 PM (g8Hfr)

523 Think what they're attempting to show w/Carol is the emotional toll/guilt over being the aggressors. IIRC, this is the first time the group has just attacked as an offense instead of a defense. They're acting as mercenaries in order to get food from the settlement being harassed by Negan's crew.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2016 02:10 PM (NOIQH)

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Yup. Nailed it.

Posted by: @votermom at March 14, 2016 02:18 PM (cbfNE)

524 I see objectivity is dead.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 14, 2016 02:18 PM (U+nHb)

525 Oh come on, she's two feet from the leading candidate for President, in a crowd of hungry reporters! Everyone there was jostled and many probably worse.

Arguing this is battery is nuts.
Posted by: MTF

And the candidate himself feels the need to wear a bulletproof vest at all times and has Secret Service rush in constantly because people are coming at him.

If I try to jump on stage at a concert, I'm probably going to get pulled back and I'm not going to blame the band.

It's not like this woman was at a sit down interview and she asked the wrong question.

Posted by: Baldwin at March 14, 2016 02:18 PM (icbE4)

526 I'm sure we can all agree Trump is a insufferable carnival barking authoritarian blowhard while Michelle Fields is an attention whoring whore monkey slut who embellishes and exaggerates her "stories" to satiate her millennial selfie induced narcissistic tendencies.

Anyone want cookies?

Posted by: Burn It Down at March 14, 2016 02:19 PM (qHgBB)

527 Trump has a new ad out:

https://t.co/ckPjwdAX4D

Posted by: Harun at March 14, 2016 02:19 PM (UBBWX)

528 If I were the judge in the case, I'd award Corey money damages for defamation. And allow Trump to sue for assault since Fields clearly touched Trump.

It's so obvious that Fields was out of line. She touched and was moving in on a presidential candidate. Security - campaign and/or SS moved her away in a literal one second pass.

To say that Corey would remember her is ludicrous. To say he deserved to have his name slandered like it was is deplorable.

The story for days was Corey slammed this poor woman reporter for asking tough questions. Turns out she approached Trump with something in her hand and she was (kindly - in my opinion) moved aside.

She's a real special snowflake. Her quotes of tears, fear and drama are really shameful and defamatory.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 14, 2016 02:19 PM (7gi5J)

529 Also, Michelle Fields, beautiful.

Posted by: The Jackhole at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (3mTyP)

Pretty much what the news thread comments devolved into discussing.

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 02:19 PM (kkOK3)

530 Meanwhile (that's an O/T y'all), Vladimir Putin has announced a "partial" pullout of Russian troops from Syria. Your guess is as good as mine what, if anything, this means.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist

So while kerry is dicking around trying to determine if ISIS activities are genocide (hint: not on JEF's watch) and they are readying a second wave of keystone 'resistence fighters', The former head of the KGB is puling troops out since Assad is in a better position than he was a year ago.

P.S. Libya going to shit is the fault of everyone else BUT the jug eared fuck.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 14, 2016 02:19 PM (326rv)

531
Update: Michelle Fields has been spotted at Sears shopping for a mattress and a backpack frame.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 14, 2016 02:19 PM (kdS6q)

532 Trump is an asshole.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 14, 2016 02:19 PM (U6f54)

533 I can't keep your bullshit excuses straight. Was Fields touched against her will, or not?

if she was, it's battery.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (LtQCz)

Ah, the narrowly argued legalism.

So, Trump has no right as a celebrity and presidential candidate to establish a secure space around himself?

This is a moronic argument.

Much like TFG's ROE that requires our soldiers be fired on first before the use of deadly force.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 14, 2016 02:19 PM (0cMkb)

534 409
Hey Ace nice to see your Pauline conversion but for the last few years
now your blog has been a cesspool of anarchistic/racist America hating
nihilist trash. This is what you get for pandering to and encouraging
the trailer trash lowlifes with their fantasy's about breaking up the
United States and "burning times" race wars.

Posted by: Agricola at March 14, 2016 02:06 PM (vcMIS)

Yeeeah.... What are you trying to say, cuz...daaamn!

Posted by: Mimzey at March 14, 2016 02:19 PM (aRUb8)

535 493 It's not like he clocked the delusional bitch.
Posted by: mugiwara at March 14, 2016 02:15 PM (3xae+)

See, we've already crossed the line to where I can no longer tell if this is satire or a sincere comment. I honestly have no idea which side of this issue you are actually on, based on this comment.

Posted by: Sambo at March 14, 2016 02:19 PM (q7OLJ)

536 Bitching about the this race is like bitching about the internet. In the 80s was a "well known fact" that kids just sat in front the or goofed around outside. Now our kids are more literate then rest of you could ever be -- I was always smart what can.

Every four years the people most year bitch about low voter turn out and lack of energy in Mittens. Now you got high energy Trump energy Donaald and you bitch more.

How the rest of us make you happy.

Posted by: bestie21 at March 14, 2016 02:19 PM (HUeC4)

537 Hmmmm.... interesting question...

At this point, as a Police Report HAS been filed, which means Charges may be pressed...

Would not an apology now be an admission of guilt, and liability?

Posted by: Don Quixote at March 14, 2016 02:19 PM (RK8AH)

538 What is disgusting is the anti Shapiro article published and taken down this morning with a Mogan David around his face,

Holocaust imagery

Fuck Breitbart for that, but not Fields
Posted by: ThunderB at March 14, 2016 02:15 PM (zOTsN)

____

What?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 14, 2016 02:19 PM (0LHZx)

539 IIRC, this is the first time the group has just attacked as an offense instead of a defense. They're acting as mercenaries in order to get food from the settlement being harassed by Negan's crew.

---

Only if you ignore the incident with the fuel truck and the rpg

Posted by: john Kerry at March 14, 2016 02:20 PM (o7Ufw)

540 427
"This is what you get for pandering to and encouraging the trailer trash
lowlifes with their fantasy's about breaking up the United States and
"burning times" race wars."

"We need a return to civility, you bastards!" he implored.

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (V/X7u)
____________________________________________You can only be civil to those who are civilized.

Posted by: Agricola at March 14, 2016 02:20 PM (vcMIS)

541 504 Posted by: Don Quixote at March 14, 2016 02:15 PM (RK8AH)

sometimes you look into the political void and sometimes it looks into you

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 02:20 PM (g8Hfr)

542 Meanwhile, a collection of select headlines now on Breitbart:

SOROS MONEY FUNDING JOHN KASICH'S PRESIDENTIAL BID
John Kasich Goes All In For Amnesty
BILL DE BLASIO: OF COURSE TRUMP IS A RACIST
Hillary Clinton: Trump Guilty of 'Political Arson' At 'Violent'Rallies
Bernie Sanders:
Trump 'Literally Inciting Violence'
Jorge Ramos: 'Who Is Surprised' Protesters Are Confronting Trump Because the Media Won't
CNN Gives Platform to Man Who Rushed Trump at OH Rally
Anti-Donald Trump Rally Waves Mexican Flags in L.A.
Rubio: In Latin America, 'Strong Man' Candidates Like Trump 'Always End in Disaster'

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 14, 2016 02:20 PM (r1fLd)

543 The criminal complaint she filed lists her as claiming that the means of her assault included the use of arms, hand, feet, and mouth. Her dramatic written account though includes no mention of making contact with Lewandowski's mouth or foot. Why is that? Did he kick her and bite her too? Where was that in the video? Why has she never been asked about this?

Posted by: L, Elle at March 14, 2016 02:20 PM (2x3L+)

544 i don't thing beat reporting is a good field for michelle....the puns were not intentional in that sentence but somehow still fitting

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at March 14, 2016 02:20 PM (0O7c5)

545 I was there at LGF when Bikeboy the Jazz Flautist went full retard...

this is NOT that...

Yeah Ace isn't banning people for posting links to his own words that he's now contradicting. This is nothing remotely close. Its just Ace out o' patience.

Anyone want cookies?

I dunno, do they have raisins?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2016 02:20 PM (39g3+)

546 So while kerry is dicking around trying to determine if ISIS activities are genocide (hint: not on JEF's watch) and they are readying a second wave of keystone 'resistence fighters', The former head of the KGB is puling troops out since Assad is in a better position than he was a year ago.

P.S. Libya going to shit is the fault of everyone else BUT the jug eared fuck.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 14, 2016 02:19 PM (326rv)

Wasn't that genocide ruling due today?
Yeah, no way is JEF going to bestow "victim" status on bitter clingers. No way.

Posted by: Iblis at March 14, 2016 02:20 PM (9221z)

547 I could have prevented the assassination but it wouldn't have been polite.

- Future Secret Service statement

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 14, 2016 02:20 PM (YNum9)

548 >>>What is disgusting is the anti Shapiro article published and taken down this morning with a Mogan David around his face,
Holocaust imagery

Disagree there. It looked like a generic clip art star, not a Star of David kind.

But yes, the article was dogshit and they had to pull it immediately. Sadly, no one screen capped the 'Ding Dong The Jew Is gone' comments that were attached to it.

Posted by: El Kabong at March 14, 2016 02:20 PM (datdl)

549 >>>Because Corey would remember no such thing and nothing so dramatic.

Plus, her record of previous claims- probably confirms the "nut" diagnosis.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (0cMkb)>>>

1. A known friendly news organization calls you and claims that their reporter claims you injured her, you apologize. Period. It's simply common sense. And all it needs to be is, "sorry if your reporter was hurt while we were clearing the way for Mr. Trump."

2. I don't see how the number of bad incidents that happen to someone impugns their integrity. If Lora Logan, heaven forbid, had something bad happen to her again, would you disbelieve her because she's already had something happen to her? That's silly.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 02:20 PM (4ueYo)

550 "Fuck Breitbart for that, but not Fields"
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Nah. Fuck the Trump fans for doing their best to ruin conservatism.

Trump performed a valuable service: he moved the Overton Window on immigration, and he cleared out the RINO squishes. Awesome stuff. And in doing that, he secured the nomination for an actual conservative: Ted Cruz.

But that's not good enough for the Trumptards. They've got to burn all of conservatism down. Cruz isn't conservative enough. A year ago each and every Trumptard would have been thrilled to have Cruz as our nominee. But now they're willing to lose this election because they're a bunch of Trump-fellating retards. And Turmp's not even a conservative. He's lying about immigration. He loves single-payer. He's a goddam New York liberal, and these gullible idiots believe them.

Fuck those assholes. Fuck anyone who carries water for this pro-choice, open-borders, liberal liar. Fuck them all.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 02:20 PM (LtQCz)

551 Wait, I meant its a new ad against Trump.

Posted by: Harun at March 14, 2016 02:21 PM (UBBWX)

552 Then just say that from the start. You know what? I would have bought that.

But no, no: we had to get the full "nuts & sluts" defense, right out of the Sid Blumental & James Carville playbook.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 02:16 PM (mVjMU)
--------------------------------------------

Now, you're shifting ground. But even this is ridiculous. If every reporter was jostled, a safe bet, why apologize to her? Or, rather, why stop there? Why not apologize to the entire audience?

The event itself was a big nothing burger, and the campaign overreacted. That's the answer to your question. Of course, Trump won one more news cycle as a result (even if it fed the MoveOn "violence" meme).

Posted by: MTF at March 14, 2016 02:21 PM (TxJGV)

553 Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 02:16 PM (mVjMU)

They absolutely refuse to acknowledge that is the issue. They want to believe that the issue is the actual , now proven contact.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 14, 2016 02:21 PM (PkIg+)

554 that Tom Brady, he's better than Manning ever was, you know

which Manning, you ask? Either; or both. Pats rule...

Posted by: how many Popes in the pizza? at March 14, 2016 02:21 PM (/542q)

555 I want Carol on my security team.

----

MINOR SPOILER ALERT FOR TWD.

No shit.

The whole episode I was thinking she could have been in the CIA from
before. She had the cute ginger totally underestimating her.

BBQ anyone ???

My only quibble is at the end of the episode there was the intimation that Carol might be losing her nerve. I hope not.

Oh... and Preacher steps up last week.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 14, 2016 01:55 PM (8XRCm)<<<<

See, I don't think she was completely faking while she was duck taped. I think she was having a crisis of conscience about all her killings. Even the actress herself said on the Talking Dead afterward, that it was supposed to be ambiguous.

Old Carol, the one who burned the two sick people at the prison, the one who wanted to kill Morgan's Wolf prisoner, the one who had Lizzie look at the flowers... she would never have hesitated to cap the ginger. Crisis of conscience Carol did. She wants to hook up with that dude she gave cookies to last week. He basically said she's scary in what she can do (as a "mother" for the Alexandrians). I think she'd gotten tired of being an enforcer, knowing that means you can't allow yourself to get attached to anyone or anything. It must have taken a toll.

But to protect Maggie and the baby, her "protective mother" instinct kicked back in, and she removed the threats. Old Carol will be back after the short layoff. There are many more threats to come.

Posted by: TWD Carol/John Wick 2016! at March 14, 2016 02:21 PM (H9MG5)

556 536 Posted by: Sambo at March 14, 2016 02:19 PM (q7OLJ)

That means the objective was achieved.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 02:21 PM (g8Hfr)

557 Nice backpedaling, Trumpkins. You've gone from arguing that he never
grabbed her, not no way, not no how, to trying to spin about how HARD he
grabbed her.

Exactly.

Yeah, it's a picky story. Fields is overplaying it, being dramatic.

But it's the damned reaction that is the problem here.

If this had been any other campaign these sycophants would have never stopped talking about it. But it's their tough guy Trump and we must be tough and it's the liberal media and we must not be PC and we're tired of the Establishment.

All of these other responses to justify something that is unjustifiable.

Sometimes it's little things like this that show us more about a cause or movement than big things.

They can't say, "Yeah, Trump messed up here." No, must not admit error. Must always defend Trump.

Posted by: SteveMG at March 14, 2016 02:21 PM (WbDvz)

558 I can't keep your bullshit excuses straight. Was Fields touched against her will, or not?

if she was, it's battery.

Posted by: Masturbatin' P

Who touched first?
If she tried to touch Trump first, it's self defense of a third person. She doesn't get a freebie touch.
Trump touched against his will by her would be battery then.
Cory stopping her would be self defense.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2016 02:21 PM (UC5ui)

559 544
@521

Outside of you trailer park white trash losers, majority of Americans are not anti-immigrant.

Posted by: Nebula at March 14, 2016 02:20 PM (trgxj)
oh boy.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at March 14, 2016 02:21 PM (0O7c5)

560 532

Update: Michelle Fields has been spotted at Sears shopping for a mattress and a backpack frame.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 14, 2016 02:19 PM (kdS6q)

So was Donald Trump....he was pickin' one up for his daughter.
Ba-da-bing..*rimshot*.
I'll be here all week. Try the tenderloin.

Posted by: Mimzey at March 14, 2016 02:21 PM (aRUb8)

561 Oh my goshness! Where's my farting couch?

Posted by: Dang at March 14, 2016 02:21 PM (2oWD2)

562 If Trump had underbussed his guy, we'd be hearing "see, Trumpers, he'll cut run on you..." with a different twist. It's not Trump's job to quell internal problems between Team Cruz/Hoax and Team News at Breitbart.

We don't believe what we read because we see all the more clearly how personal relationships define news coverage ala Gamergate. The remedy for that is not more wagon-circling and finger-wagging at readers for being so stupid they have to be misled back to "sanity" as construed by the George Will wing of the GOP (4 more years of Bush).

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 14, 2016 02:21 PM (hC9FD)

563 Good to see Trump supporters calling a woman a whore, because Hillary's War on Women is totally not going to work on him.

Posted by: melle1228 at March 14, 2016 02:22 PM (lmtji)

564 So this is basically how it is:

Fields exaggerates her assault to an absurd degree.

Trump campaign overreacts and goes full retard in their defense, escalating things even more.

More drama than General Hospital at Breitbart ensues.

Meanwhile a pastor who wants gays dead introduces Ted Cruz.

We are proper fucked my friends.

Proper. Fucked.

Posted by: Burn It Down at March 14, 2016 02:22 PM (qHgBB)

565 Speaking of integrity at Breitbart, let's look at this coverage from William Bigelow involving Breitbart's senior editor Ben Shapiro:

http://tinyurl.com/gp7qs7x

What's that? There is no one called William Bigelow at Breitbart? It's actually David Shapiro, father of Ben, covering his son with the kind of ethics that would get you canned at a local newspaper?

http://tinyurl.com/ztwd3rj

Well knock me down with a feather.

Posted by: trev006 at March 14, 2016 02:22 PM (MEHba)

566 430
Wow - absolutely DAMNING video! It is ABJECTLY sad when web sites and
commentators you used to like, resort to the same "make up shit" and
smear tactics we have seen the left employ for so long.

Posted by: John Graham at March 14, 2016 02:07 PM (feEL5)

I use to take offense when I would visit conspiracy sites like Zero Hedge, and the commenters would claim there is only one group pretending to be two parties.. This election has opened my eyes. They were right.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 14, 2016 02:22 PM (yEdwX)

567 Posted by: Nebula at March 14, 2016 02:17 PM (trgxj)

Lvl 0 troll

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 02:22 PM (lNK80)

568 So, good with the bad, I guess. As you noted (I believe accurately) mild apology, minor incident.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2016 02:15 PM (39g3+)

Public apologies are never minor.

Given that the evidence is that only a public apology was ever demanded, this was the only way for things to play out.

No apology and media escalation. As for the presidential race? This is just noise, though you'll learn something about each other from the reactions.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 02:22 PM (uURQL)

569 >>I had a discussion, a fairly civil one, with a Bernie supporter

How? Why?

Posted by: Nevergiveup

========

I didn't know he was a Bernie guy until later. He wanted to talk about early voting and then he mentioned Sanders.

Posted by: mrp at March 14, 2016 02:22 PM (JBggj)

570 530 Also, Michelle Fields, beautiful.

Posted by: The Jackhole at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (3mTyP)

Pretty much what the news thread comments devolved into discussing.
Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 02:19 PM (kkOK3)

___

It's also why she is getting so much love from everyone. Oh noes!! A hotty didn't get treated nicely by that evil, evil man. The horror.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 14, 2016 02:22 PM (0LHZx)

571 "So, Trump has no right as a celebrity and presidential candidate to establish a secure space around himself?"

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If that's the defense, then make that defense. Say "she got too close." Don't fucking lie about it. Say that you touched her. Tell the truth. Don't give these bullshit excuses that you have to give now because your initial story fell apart.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 02:22 PM (NDVSb)

572
I don't support Trump, but those who are attacking him for not firing his most critical advisor over an equivocal (at most!) assertion are loony. This is politics.
Posted by: MTF at March 14, 2016 02:06 PM (TxJGV)

---------------------

Yes, loons.

What's worse this nothingburger incident here or the Cruz campaign sending out "voting violation" letters with your name and neighbors' names on it, giving you an F grade?

Seems to me the latter incident is worse, yet I think there was maybe on post on it.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 14, 2016 02:22 PM (LXJ1e)

573 Longtime lurker here - don't expect anyone to give a crap what I think, but here goes:

I am not a Trump cultist; I agree that he has red flags everywhere. It's obvious he hasn't really thought through the issues or developed any kind of coherent philosophy. That's not even getting into personality/character traits.

That said -- which of these other candidates running are we supposed to be placing our trust in?

Cruz claims to have our back, but when the chips were down last week he went on television to make excuses for BLM and communist anarchists. He either doesn't understand the nature of progressivism, or he placed politics over the country.

Imagine if an Obama rally had been disrupted by a horde of white rednecks. Could you imagine Hillary or any other Democrat going on TV and saying...that bad Obama, he was sooo divisive in his rhetoric, he invited this? I'm laughing as I type this because it's so absurd -- yet that's exactly what Cruz did on our side.

Rubio...we don't have to speculate whether he will betray us if elected, because we've already seen it.

At this point, our choices are so bad I'd go for Trump just to watch him fight the progressives for a few months, even if it's aimlessly.

Posted by: Matt at March 14, 2016 02:23 PM (ma2Yy)

574 What is disgusting is the anti Shapiro article published and taken down this morning with a Mogan David around his face,
Holocaust imagery

==========
Uh, no. It was a 10 pointed rectangle thingy and the article written by Pollack, who is also an orthodox Jew.

http://archive.is/FSmXa

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 14, 2016 02:23 PM (iQIUe)

575 See, we've already crossed the line to where I can no longer tell if this is satire or a sincere comment. I honestly have no idea which side of this issue you are actually on, based on this comment.

I was thinking the exact same thing. I fully admit I have a bit of a white knight complex. Hell I used to use that name in chat. My armor has tarnished over the years from ill use by women, but I still have that instinct to protect women and condemn those who harm them. This kind of thing grits my teeth.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2016 02:23 PM (39g3+)

576 3 Reasons the Historic U.S.-Canada Commitment to Curbing Methane Emissions Is Big

1) the seats in the Presidential limo ("The Beast") have "fart holes"

2) the seats in Air Force One have "fart holes"

3) President Azzhole Obama farts a lot.

Posted by: SMOD at March 14, 2016 02:23 PM (e8kgV)

577 I just don't see what she claims took place being shown in that video clip either, and frankly I have no ax to grind one way or the other about it.

Posted by: An Observer at March 14, 2016 02:23 PM (7Xdbo)

578

Nebula, Ace is into white identity politics? Fuck off

Who are these new people. Go away

Posted by: ThunderB at March 14, 2016 02:23 PM (zOTsN)

579 544 @521
Outside of you trailer park white trash losers, majority of Americans are not anti-immigrant.
Posted by: Nebula at March 14, 2016 02:20 PM (trgxj)

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Dontcha just love how the new posters think they have license to call long time established posters like Royal Oil racists.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 14, 2016 02:23 PM (8XRCm)

580 You live in Missouri??

*dons Johnny Carson voice**

I did not know that.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 14, 2016 02:18 PM (8XRCm)

Well, the first 7 years I commented on here, I was living in Connecticut.
We moved back to Missouri after a 35 year absence in 2013. We're both originally from here though.

Posted by: Tami at March 14, 2016 02:24 PM (v0/PR)

581 "The video shows the incident was embarrassingly benign, but if it had just been addressed with an admission and apology then this whole shitstorm could've been avoided."

You must be new to this game. Here's the script:

A) Trump: "We don't approve of manhandling reporters, and I apologize for my staff. A more detailed written apology written by my campaign manager will be out in the press tomorrow"

Outrage Mob: "That's not good enough! He should be fired!"

B) Trump: [all of option A plus...] ... and so I have fired my campaign manager"

Outrage Mob: "Not enough. Step out of the race!"

C) Trump [all of option A & B plus...] ...in light of this, I have learned I am an unworthy leader and will step out of the race for President:

Outrage Mob: "Reparations now! $200 million to fund a Michelle Fields Battered Women's Shelter! No justice no peace!"

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 02:24 PM (V/X7u)

582 Whoa - Hector is back injecting white supremacy (?) into the discussion.
Moar ban hammer needed!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2016 02:24 PM (NOIQH)

583 Anybody have a link to Field's GoFundMe page?
No health insurance eh?
I hope she doesn't die in the street.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 14, 2016 02:24 PM (ioqGj)

584 This is nothingburger. The BLM assholes disrupting rallies, including Bernie's and Jeb's, is far more troubling.

Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at March 14, 2016 02:24 PM (hHVom)

585 That's the fastest 600 comments I've ever seen.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 14, 2016 02:24 PM (2PHKP)

586 and if he DID deflate those f*ckin footballs, well, they all do sh*t like that

and Roger Goddell likes to play catcher, IYKWIMAITYD

Posted by: how many Popes in the pizza? at March 14, 2016 02:24 PM (/542q)

587 But that's not good enough for the Trumptards. They've got to burn all of conservatism down. Cruz isn't conservative enough. A year ago each and every Trumptard would have been thrilled to have Cruz as our nominee. But now they're willing to lose this election because they're a bunch of Trump-fellating retards. And Turmp's not even a conservative. He's lying about immigration. He loves single-payer. He's a goddam New York liberal, and these gullible idiots believe them.

Fuck those assholes. Fuck anyone who carries water for this pro-choice, open-borders, liberal liar. Fuck them all.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 02:20 PM (LtQCz)

_______

I love Trump hater butthurt in the morning. It goes great with OJ.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 14, 2016 02:24 PM (0LHZx)

588 Posted by: bestie21 at March 14, 2016 02:19 PM (HUeC4)

Get an interpreter! Google translate doesn't seem to be working well for your native language to English translation.

Posted by: Hadoop at March 14, 2016 02:24 PM (2X7pN)

589 561 Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at March 14, 2016 02:21 PM (0O7c5)

Yeah....ladies and gents...

Yector thinks he has just about converted the blog.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 02:24 PM (g8Hfr)

590 Now that Fields has filed a police report, here's hoping there is a prosecutor delusional enough to bring charges. It would be fun to see him/her make the case to the jury that a battery had occurred based on that video.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 14, 2016 02:24 PM (R+30W)

591 Keep in mind this isn't Trump apologizing.

Its his manager Corey.

Its absolutely not a big deal.

Trump probably won't let him - Trump figures he can suck more media attention this way.

Posted by: Harun at March 14, 2016 02:24 PM (UBBWX)

592 501 So, how's Ted Cruz doing in Ohio?
Posted by: mrp at March 14, 2016 02:15 PM (JBggj)
I haven't really seen any signs just started to see a lot of Kasich signs

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 14, 2016 02:25 PM (c4yY7)

593 More interested in how this nothingburger became part of the "Violent!" narrative that sprang up overnight, after the secret Sea Island meeting, which Ace, oddly enough, has never mentioned, even though that's an issue custom made for a pretty righteous post.

Posted by: artemis at March 14, 2016 02:25 PM (AwPyG)

594 Nebula-

"an interstellar cloud of dust, hydrogen, helium and other ionized gases."

Yep/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2016 02:25 PM (w4NZ8)

595 They forgot to put my nothingburger in the sack!

Posted by: Dang at March 14, 2016 02:25 PM (2oWD2)

596 Outside of you trailer park white trash losers, majority of Americans are not anti-immigrant.
Posted by: Nebula at March 14, 2016 02:20 PM (trgxj)

_____

Typical GOPe/MSM liar who doesn't distinguish between **LEGAL** and **ILLEGAL** immigrant.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 14, 2016 02:25 PM (0LHZx)

597 Should I enjoy watching Trump lovers getting banned? I love Trump lovers, but they can get on my nerves and get us off the topic of how beautiful michelle fields is.

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 02:26 PM (kkOK3)

598 >>>she and maggie were shaken because they had to kill
people....not walkers...living breathing people....she hasn't lost her
nerve....she just didn't want to have to kill people.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at March 14, 2016 01:59 PM (0O7c5)<<<

Maggie wasn't really shaken when she bashed Cigarette Lady's head in. She was the one telling Carol to pull the trigger on Ginger.

Maggie is kinda off the gung-ho "I'm going to put myself in harms way" thing though now that she's faced not only her own death, but the death of the little life she realizes she has to protect better.

Posted by: TWD Carol/John Wick 2016! at March 14, 2016 02:26 PM (H9MG5)

599 Well, the first 7 years I commented on here, I was living in Connecticut.
We moved back to Missouri after a 35 year absence in 2013. We're both originally from here though.
Posted by: Tami at March 14, 2016 02:24 PM (v0/PR)

----

If I may ask.... whereabouts.

KC here.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 14, 2016 02:26 PM (8XRCm)

600 One huge thing that people demanding Trump apologize and move on from this are missing is that a police report has been filed and that means any statement made by him or his campaign apologizing to the MSM could be used as evidence of guilt. Trump may be a lot of things but stupid about lawsuits is not one of them.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 14, 2016 02:26 PM (iONHu)

601 That means the objective was achieved.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 02:21 PM (g8Hfr)

Who's objective? The commenter's or those responsible for the devolution of society?

Posted by: Sambo at March 14, 2016 02:26 PM (q7OLJ)

602 Breitbart's reporters did want to go #WAR. Pollack stomped it.
http://tinyurl.com/h99cfey.

Posted by: Iblis at March 14, 2016 02:26 PM (9221z)

603 Now, you're shifting ground. But even this is ridiculous.

No, he's right. It wasn't universal but at least some Trump supporters here went berserk attacking and tearing her down as some horrific monster slut crazy bitch secret partisan infiltrator lying trash. It was really over the top.

I know its the internet, so "no" is never enough, it always has to be the most EXTREME EPIC TOTAL NO OF ALL TIME! But seriously, some of it was too far.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2016 02:26 PM (39g3+)

604 After having pretty much given up on Trump, here I am defending him/them.

This video proves what she said was bullshit. If this qualifies as battery, then we're all in trouble. Add someone noted last night, people get jostled more than this on a subway.

This is a nonstory, other than maybe exposing yet again what spineless pussies this nation has become.

Posted by: Blano at March 14, 2016 02:26 PM (uiVGU)

605 Posted by: Nebula at March 14, 2016 02:23 PM (trgxj)

Nebula? Sounds like hot gas to me.

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 02:27 PM (kkOK3)

606 hector....who do you endorse?

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at March 14, 2016 02:27 PM (0O7c5)

607 Another Amtrak derailment.

Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2016 02:27 PM (Fmupd)

608 I always love how so-called "conservatives" here and elsewhere say the exact same thing said at Kos and DU, regarding Trump. But yeah, totes conservative and stuff guys.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 14, 2016 02:27 PM (0LHZx)

609 415
This is getting to the point of where I don't know who to believe, listen to or ignore.

Posted by: Jaimo at March 14, 2016 02:06 PM (9U1OG)

Thats been my plan all along. Workin' pretty good 'eh?

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 14, 2016 02:27 PM (aRUb8)

610 I see a new Kirk Douglas/Burt Lancaster movie, Jostling At the OK Corral.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 14, 2016 02:27 PM (YNum9)

611 I've got to admit, this topic almost had me curious enough to read Ace's article.

Still, if someone could please just explain from the headline if Trump rape-raped her or if he just smacked her around a little during rough sex.

I swear I'll read the next article and explain it to you.

Posted by: jwest at March 14, 2016 02:27 PM (Zs4uk)

612 >>>So, Trump has no right as a celebrity and presidential candidate to establish a secure space around himself?

This is a moronic argument.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 14, 2016 02:19 PM (0cMkb)>>>

I doubt that reporters, or anyone else for that matter, have consented to battery for merely being close to and speaking to Trump in an area which they have been given permission to be in. For instance, neither the SS or Trump's staff, could have just walked out of that room, punching in the face anyone within range.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 02:27 PM (4ueYo)

613 What Fen said x2

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 14, 2016 02:27 PM (hC9FD)

614
One good thing about Trump He has proven that racism is deep in the Republican party. People like Ace have encouraged this.
Posted by: Nebula at March 14, 2016 02:23 PM (trgxj)

Sup Hector. How are things with you and your new Syrian Stepdad?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 14, 2016 02:27 PM (kdS6q)

615 Pete

I think the incident was so unremarkable that neither the campaign manager nor the SS remembered it

this happens all the time with witnesses

Posted by: ThunderB at March 14, 2016 02:27 PM (zOTsN)

616 Is Breitbart Trump's only media ally?

I thought Drudge was in the tank for him.

Posted by: Bud Brown at March 14, 2016 02:28 PM (0h3HM)

617 I don't see him yanking her. I see him passing by. I believed her until I saw this. I do think somebody grabbed her, but it was not the Trump guy.

Posted by: BBReggie at March 14, 2016 02:28 PM (K1RXR)

618 Anyone want cookies?

Posted by: Burn It Down at March 14, 2016 02:19 PM (qHgBB)

Are they from Mrs. Fields?

Posted by: Joe Mama at March 14, 2016 02:28 PM (NQmg1)

619 If this qualifies as battery, then we're all in trouble.

It probably does technically qualify for the minimum legal definition of the term. But it doesn't qualify for real life normal behavior definition.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2016 02:28 PM (39g3+)

620 Hey who wants free HBO when they stay at my casino?

Posted by: Trump the carnival barker at March 14, 2016 02:28 PM (sqs5K)

621 Posted by: ThunderB at March 14, 2016 02:23 PM (zOTsN)

It actually sounds like another routine from the poster known as Hector.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2016 02:28 PM (w4NZ8)

622 say the exact same thing said at Kos and DU, regarding Trump. But yeah, totes conservative and stuff guys.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 14, 2016 02:27 PM (0LHZx)

Are they supposed to be mutually exclusive?

Posted by: Deep Thinker with missing tooth at March 14, 2016 02:28 PM (aRUb8)

623 Sup Hector. How are things with you and your new Syrian Stepdad?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 14, 2016 02:27 PM (kdS6q)

-----

I think you misspelled "symbian"....

Posted by: fixerupper at March 14, 2016 02:28 PM (8XRCm)

624 Only thing that kept me wondering was she filed a complaint, granted people will do that who have nothing but to me that's not a wise move .

Posted by: Skip at March 14, 2016 02:28 PM (fizMZ)

625 Nood.

Posted by: HH at March 14, 2016 02:29 PM (DrCtv)

626 Every time this topic comes up we get more than our fair share of moles and concerned Republican types. Its like clockwork, a host of unknown names spouting CNN's talking points.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 14, 2016 02:29 PM (39g3+)

627 > Cruz claims to have our back, but when the chips were down last week he went on television to make excuses for BLM and communist anarchists. He either doesn't understand the nature of progressivism, or he placed politics over the country.

This. Yep, and he's done that same thing how many times now? Cruz talks conservative, but acts like an opportunist that's had his eye on the political stage for quite some time.

Posted by: Kenja Time at March 14, 2016 02:29 PM (PCgut)

628 My armor has tarnished over the years from ill use by women, but I still have that instinct to protect women and condemn those who harm them. This kind of thing grits my teeth.

White Knight is dead. Long live equality.
Run with the big dogs you wanted to run with.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 14, 2016 02:29 PM (UC5ui)

629 604 Posted by: Sambo at March 14, 2016 02:26 PM (q7OLJ)

Yes...

once Hillary! nominates three SC Justices trust me the ability to be ethereal will be in great personal demand....

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 02:29 PM (g8Hfr)

630 "Outside of you trailer park white trash losers, majority of Americans are not anti-immigrant."

The majority are anti-ILLEGAL immigrant.

Also, nice racist attack from someone pretending to be all "enlightened" and shit. Do you not own a mirror?

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 02:29 PM (V/X7u)

631 Fire his ass.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 14, 2016 02:29 PM (NjiZL)

632 590
But that's not good enough for the Trumptards. They've got to burn all
of conservatism down. Cruz isn't conservative enough. A year ago each
and every Trumptard would have been thrilled to have Cruz as our
nominee. But now they're willing to lose this election because they're a
bunch of Trump-fellating retards. And Turmp's not even a conservative.
He's lying about immigration. He loves single-payer. He's a goddam New
York liberal, and these gullible idiots believe them.

Fuck those assholes. Fuck anyone who carries water for this pro-choice, open-borders, liberal liar. Fuck them all.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at March 14, 2016 02:20 PM (LtQCz)

_______

I love Trump hater butthurt in the morning. It goes great with OJ.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 14, 2016 02:24 PM (0LHZx)

You Trump rangers better not get nasty or you'll be banned. Those bashing you? Well, some streets are one way.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 14, 2016 02:29 PM (yEdwX)

633 won't alter this being a stupid topic and combination Psychology test.

Trump won't apologize b/c assholes are gonna asshole.

Fields can't be trusted because lie upon lie.

Ladies and gentlemen YOUR right wing newsbuzz of the week.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 02:18 PM (g8Hfr)

Well put, sven.

But I will point out that the modern media battlespace does not allow apologies.

See Tim Hunt, Nobel Laureate, and hater of women. He did apologize, and lost his job anyways.

Or sexy girls shirt scientist - whose scientific achievement of landing a probe on a comet was tossed ignored because it's misogyny to celebrate sexy girls. His apology did not rehabilitate him - only proved that he was Misogynist Scum.

We may not like the battleground, but the enemy voted. So give it to them in kind.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 02:29 PM (uURQL)

634 I can't even spell 'accelerating' right,
Maybe you're Russian too much?

Posted by: andycanuck at March 14, 2016 02:29 PM (ioqGj)

635 Who's been cutting the Valu-rite with strychnine again?

Posted by: Fritz at March 14, 2016 02:29 PM (37OkS)

636 Trump is a violent thug. That's why I'm going to vote for him!

Posted by: Trumpbot #298738975 at March 14, 2016 02:29 PM (ci0xa)

637 I'm not a Trump supporter, but she didn't even react with a wince or anything. Did she self inflict her bruise or something?

Posted by: Citation X Driver at March 14, 2016 02:30 PM (ABJy3)

638 Was she trying to grab the back of Trump's coat? Hmmm.

In fairness, if she could have just touched the hem of his garment, she would have been healed.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at March 14, 2016 02:30 PM (evdj2)

639 (trgxj)

Troll

Posted by: Joe Mama at March 14, 2016 02:30 PM (NQmg1)

640 This is such a nothing story - anyone giving it airtime or pixel space is just following the SJW playbook at this point.

The latest video clearly shows nothing significant happened.

Posted by: Stay out da bushes at March 14, 2016 02:30 PM (cR/4a)

641 >>>605 Breitbart's reporters did want to go #WAR. Pollack stomped it.

Posted by: Iblis at March 14, 2016 02:26 PM (9221z)>>>

And then published a pathetic story defending Corey, based on pretty much nothing other than his own wishcasting. That was a sad day. I used to get about 80% of my news from Breitbart. After reading that nonsense, I've cut them out. I do, however, sometimes type "breitbart.com" into my web browser out of force of habit before closing the window.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 02:30 PM (4ueYo)

642 NOOD.

Let's keep the political sniping here m'kay

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 14, 2016 02:30 PM (mEZce)

643 "I doubt that reporters, or anyone else for that matter, have consented to battery for merely being close to and speaking to Trump"

Don't forget to include Felony Kidnapping too. Some of those reporters where kept waiting.

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 02:30 PM (V/X7u)

644 Typical GOPe/MSM liar who doesn't distinguish between **LEGAL** and **ILLEGAL** immigrant.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 14, 2016 02:25 PM (0LHZx)
_______

Meh, Im also not particularly thrilled with legal immigration.

What this has to do with racism is anybodys guess. Even if you stopped all immigration tomorrow and deported every illegal alien, the US would still be one of the most racially diverse countries on the planet.

But then, Im expecting too much thought from this trolltard, right?

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at March 14, 2016 02:31 PM (oHROq)

645 Maggie wasn't really shaken when she bashed Cigarette Lady's head in. She was the one telling Carol to pull the trigger on Ginger.

Maggie is kinda off the gung-ho "I'm going to put myself in harms way" thing though now that she's faced not only her own death, but the death of the little life she realizes she has to protect better.

---

is there an element of Carol trying to keep Maggie from going full Carol?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at March 14, 2016 02:31 PM (o7Ufw)

646 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWKIeB_YtqI

Posted by: Ghost of kari at March 14, 2016 02:31 PM (ubByS)

647 That's the fastest 600 comments I've ever seen.>>>

Well most of them are repetitions Of OMG Trump is a thug and Trump didn do nutin. So they fill the space quickly.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 14, 2016 02:31 PM (XtAzU)

648 WOW - confirmation bias, it's a real thing! Glad my Communications Major is good for something.

"Well, now comes the video, as we always knew it would, showing what sure looks like [Cruz's campaign manager Jeff Roe] grabbing Fields, and then Fields stumbling due to the yank."

Well, I kind of didn't like this Cruz fella that much anyway, but this is the final straw - I won't vote for Cruz even if he's the nominee. Guess I'll have to go third party or not vote.

Posted by: Soulpatchtony at March 14, 2016 02:31 PM (m40v5)

649 "That's the fastest 600 comments I've ever seen.>>>

Well most of them are repetitions Of OMG Trump is a thug and Trump didn do nutin. So they fill the space quickly. "

Who's this Trump guy?

Posted by: Skeezix at March 14, 2016 02:32 PM (WnCSK)

650 Both sides appear to be liars, if the video is of the incident. My guess is an apology became a non starter once her boyfriend played the thug card and Shapiro white knighted for her.

Posted by: Ryan at March 14, 2016 02:32 PM (7sMJ5)

651 Posted by: Burn It Down at March 14, 2016 02:19 PM (qHgBB)

Are they from Mrs. Fields?
*************************************

LOL

Posted by: Burn It Down at March 14, 2016 02:32 PM (qHgBB)

652 Jeez. It's like Ace was disappointed with the Horde, so he went and brought in a replacement Horde.

Feels like a lot of that going around these days.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 14, 2016 02:32 PM (9krrF)

653 If I may ask.... whereabouts.

KC here.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 14, 2016 02:26 PM (8XRCm)

St. Francois county right now (Farmington). We hope to move up to west StL county....sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Tami at March 14, 2016 02:32 PM (v0/PR)

654 agreed Artemis... The Sea Island meeting would make a excellent post here. But probably won't.

Posted by: BIG AL FREDO at March 14, 2016 02:32 PM (iWo0u)

655 I think you misspelled "symbian"....

Posted by: fixerupper at March 14, 2016 02:28 PM (8XRCm)

You also left out "Liberation Army"

Posted by: Patty Hearst at March 14, 2016 02:32 PM (aRUb8)

656 Ace, doubling down with a weak hand is never a good idea.

Posted by: creeper at March 14, 2016 02:33 PM (nZZCs)

657 But Ace... Conservative Treehouse and Gateway Pundit swears this video shows Michelle Fields to be a lying whore. I was assured that was a fact by several people on this very site yesterday (I was also assured that you owed Donald Trump a YUGE apology).

Posted by: redbanzai at March 14, 2016 02:33 PM (y7/KB)

658 Ace I love you and this blog; I've been a loyal reader since 2010 even though I only started posting here recently. Reasonable people can disagree about candidates, I obviously support Trump, with some reservations, and you support Cruz, and that's fine. But I do think that you are letting your dislike of Trump hurt your objectivity in this case, and that you and others who hate Trump are really only seeing what they want to see here.

Posted by: Lord Gulgoth at March 14, 2016 02:33 PM (bWvOd)

659 Yes.
Say whatever comes to your mind.
Good point.
Call into Morning Mika.
Call into The Factor.
Get interviewed by Hannity.
Key Words and phrases to use: Loser, low-energy, trust me it'll be the best, the[fill-in-the-blank]'s love me.

Posted by: Trump Advisor at March 14, 2016 02:34 PM (2X7pN)

660 Good grief...this is madness. I've lurked here for a decade, and appreciate Ace's tenacity when he locks on to a target. It's generally driven by objectivity and facts...I can appreciate his frustration as he points these things out and mirror the "why the hell doesn't anyone in the media pick this up" undertone. In a way, it feels like he's reading my mind (I haven't seen any posts about a menage with the girl from Fuller House and Kate Upton...so pretty sure he's not actually reading my mind). But this, it just doesn't fit the mold.

I was raised to never get rough with the fairer sex. Period. I've watched the video a couple of times, and I can't make a determination one way or another. There are two people who actually know, and quite honestly, neither are trustworthy arbiters of the truth. I could appreciate Ace taking this hard line if the lady was family, or a close friend, and if that's the case, then OK. But to bulldog this story, bait with comments (there are idiotic supporters for any candidate, ANY candidate, that can be incendiary and stupid), and generally take the scorched earth tactic for this story just doesn't stand to reason. Had Trump been the one to engage in the "physical altercation" I'm 100% with you, but he didn't. There are myriad concrete policy issues with which to beat him about the head and neck, but this isn't it. If the point is to preach that Trump is boisterous and unapologetic...I have to say that if folks haven't picked up on that yet, they're not going to. I've toyed with the idea that you're playing 5th dimensional chess here and you're actually trying to boost support for Trump for this...I honestly just can't tell.

I'm not a Trump guy. I'm in Texas, and proudly voted for Cruz. I still think he's got a chance. But if he doesn't, my second choice is "anyone other than Hillary". Ace, I respect you. I'm a fan, and hit the site more times a day than I'd even venture to guess. I'm by no means qualified to tell, hell even ask, you how to run your ship...I'll just say that this doesn't seem like the substantive hits that make me send out/tag Ace stories to anyone I know. It feels like you need a good steak, a cold beer (or several), and a fat cigar...and disconnect for a couple of days. I'm holding out hope that things level out as this nomination process comes to a close, and I'll keep hitting the site like Joe Lewis until then to see if it happens.

Posted by: Coleman at March 14, 2016 02:34 PM (FVCA4)

661
@575

"Ted Cruz: Donald Trump sees protesters as disloyal people who must be punished"

It's worse than that. Cruz triples down.

He never mentions that Trump has private events and is also is talking about self defense for his supporters. Not starting anything but finishing things - ***if need be. They chant for USA until security comes.

Complete bullshit spin by Trump detractors.

Cruz is the lowest of the low for encouraging anti-Constitutional memes.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 14, 2016 02:34 PM (7gi5J)

662 Didn't Al Sharpton and/or his body guards shove a Fox news reporter during some "Baltimore riots" news conference?

Posted by: Brunnhilde at March 14, 2016 02:34 PM (aW5/6)

663 The majority are anti-ILLEGAL immigrant.

ILLEGAL immigrants are not immigrants. They are invaders.

Just like an unauthorized guest is not a guest. He's a home-invader.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 02:34 PM (uURQL)

664 So now we go from "dragging to the ground" and "teeth used as weapons" to "yanking." At most, he squeezed in front of her in a crowd. Ace is making a fool of himself again.

Posted by: mortimers nerd at March 14, 2016 02:35 PM (i7PoZ)

665 Posted by: Nebula at March 14, 2016 02:33 PM (trgxj)

I hear that if you inhale it counts.

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 02:35 PM (lNK80)

666 But Ace... Conservative Treehouse and Gateway Pundit swears this video shows Michelle Fields to be a lying whore.
***********************

Read her statement, and then watch what happens in the video.

Verdict: Lying Whore.

And besides, that look at that FACE. Who could believe a face like that?????

Posted by: Burn It Down at March 14, 2016 02:35 PM (qHgBB)

667 Where there is a flinch, there is a yank.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 14, 2016 02:11 PM (NUqwG)

And for every yank there is an equal and opposite yank.Sorry, didn't see anybody in that vid yanking a hundred pounds of meat.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 14, 2016 02:36 PM (T78UI)

668 656
Jeez. It's like Ace was disappointed with the Horde, so he went and brought in a replacement Horde.

Feels like a lot of that going around these days.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 14, 2016 02:32 PM (9krrF)

Nah. The door was open, and I still blame our home being invaded by a lot of those HotAir derps on Morrisey. No wonder he slammed the door on those schmucks.

Damn you Morrisey!

Posted by: Definately Not Mimzey at March 14, 2016 02:36 PM (aRUb8)

669 The more comments I read from Trump supporters, the more I realize (to bastardize a Groucho quote) "I wouldn't want to belong to any group that includes them"

I thought this used to be such a nice, intelligent site.

Posted by: Dave Reardon at March 14, 2016 02:36 PM (WmLD5)

670 Posted by: naturalfake at March 14, 2016 02:14 PM (0cMkb)

Eh, before this shot she was walking calmly next to Trump with her recorder, asking a question about affirmative action, and he was responding, then she was grabbed, so I don't think she was seen as a threat--more like CL wanted a reporter he didn't recognize to stop asking questions. She was subbing on the Trump beat because the usual guy was out for some reason.

You're right that celeb body guards are rough-- we were at a thing in Los Angeles where my cute niece got jostled out of the way by Travolta's goons, but they didn't grab her, and they didn't make bruises on her. BTW, Harrison Ford was the other star there and he didn't have any goons.

You don't see Secret Service grabbing reporters who are asking questions, but this campaign director did it anyway.

Posted by: stace at March 14, 2016 02:36 PM (ozZau)

671 That's a "whore" example in this very thread.

Posted by: wooga at March 14, 2016 01:54 PM (tACz+)

"Attention whore" is a very different thing from "whore", unqualified. But you knew that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 14, 2016 02:37 PM (/i7Ua)

672 Play the video at 2x speed. While it's still not up to real speed, the perception is quite different. It goes from "clearly being nothing" to her clearly being yanked. There's a reason it was slowed down by people trying to show that it proved nothing.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 02:37 PM (4ueYo)

673 More than that we should be talking about Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich defending those terrorists and seizing it as an opportunity to score political points. This is it folks. This is that moment when lines get drawn in the sand, you must choose one or the other sand. There is no being neutral, you're on one side or the other. Period. Trump may be a jerk and all that, but I damn sure know what side I'm on. The left wants to divide us. They want us to implode.

----------------------

I have to agree with this 100%. The fact that Rubio, Kasich AND Cruz have tried to score points from the incident with the blame Trump game is despicable. They have chosen their side.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 14, 2016 02:37 PM (LXJ1e)

674 Piss off, Joe.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at March 14, 2016 02:38 PM (evdj2)

675 Bitch is lying
Bitch had it coming
GO TRUMP

Posted by: Trumpbot #298738975 at March 14, 2016 02:38 PM (ci0xa)

676 member of the most unscrupulous profession on earth, next to Mexican cartel leader.
That really hurt.

Posted by: Mexican cartel leader at March 14, 2016 02:38 PM (ioqGj)

677
Cruz is the lowest of the low for encouraging anti-Constitutional memes.

Posted by: Misfortune Pestilence at March 14, 2016 02:34 PM (7gi5J)

Medication! They make it!

Posted by: Siggy Freud at March 14, 2016 02:38 PM (aRUb8)

678 I thought this used to be such a nice, intelligent site.
Posted by: Dave Reardon at March 14, 2016 02:36 PM (WmLD5)

It does seem the hot gas has gotten a bit weird lately.

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 02:38 PM (lNK80)

679 "Ted Cruz: Donald Trump sees protesters as disloyal people who must be punished" It's worse than that. Cruz triples down. He never mentions that Trump has private events and is also is talking about self defense for his supporters. Not starting anything but finishing things - ***if need be. They chant for USA until security comes.
***************************

This is why I'm starting to face palm just as many times over Cruz's actions and statements as I do Trump's. All kinds of just winning material for a general election, ya know?

We are proper fucked.

Proper. Fucked.

Posted by: Burn It Down at March 14, 2016 02:38 PM (qHgBB)

680 Sure Trump is nuts & untrustworthy & everything else but this has to be the lamest "scandal" in the history of lame scandals. A big huge nothingburger filled with kale & foie gras & probably seaweed. By the by, while Trump seems certifiable this Michelle Fields is not too far behind either.

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at March 14, 2016 02:39 PM (g8ft1)

681 "Play the video at 2x speed"

If you play it at 10X speed it looks like he punches her in the face.

Posted by: Skeezix at March 14, 2016 02:39 PM (WnCSK)

682 I want a real alpha male leader in the White House, you know, someone who will knock around a few bitches and never apologize for it, because that would be beta

Posted by: Trumpbot #298738975 at March 14, 2016 02:39 PM (ci0xa)

683 @665

Again, it may be that Ace is trying to shape the orchestrated (Violent!) narrative, which is a shame.

Posted by: artemis at March 14, 2016 02:40 PM (AwPyG)

684 Posted by: Burn It Down at March 14, 2016 02:38 PM (qHgBB)

You okay? What's gonna be so bad if Cruz or Trump become president?

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 02:40 PM (kkOK3)

685 "Ted Cruz: Donald Trump sees protesters as disloyal people who must be punished"

Ted Cruz is working against my possibility of voting for him ...

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 02:40 PM (uURQL)

686 689 Posted by: Skeezix at March 14, 2016 02:39 PM (WnCSK)

at 22x speed you see Allen West zoom by in Flash mode and say "nice rack babe"....

//Totes Non Donkey Al-Wa-Po Boyfriend

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 02:40 PM (g8Hfr)

687 #665 My thoughts exactly Coleman well said......

Posted by: BIG AL FREDO at March 14, 2016 02:40 PM (iWo0u)

688 "You oppose immigration due to being a white supremacis"

Hardly. Immigration is what made this country great.

What we oppose is ILLEGAL immigration. See, we think there should be some kind of laws re immigration, and that those laws should be enforced so that immigration into this country is controlled by adults, instead of a border rush like the native americans experienced. Because it didn't work out to well for them.

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 02:41 PM (V/X7u)

689 >>>If you play it at 10X speed it looks like he punches her in the face.

Posted by: Skeezix at March 14, 2016 02:39 PM (WnCSK)>>>

Play the video at real speed, buddy. What's it show?

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 02:41 PM (4ueYo)

690 It does seem the hot gas has gotten a bit weird lately.

Let's not forget nebula-" an interstellar cloud of dust, hydrogen, helium and other ionized gases."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2016 02:41 PM (w4NZ8)

691 clearly you can see she was raped

Posted by: Ashley Judd at March 14, 2016 02:41 PM (dBmVV)

692 So if it was so minor, why not admit what happened w/ or w/o an apology? Why lie about it? Trumpbot support of his lies is no different than Hilary supporters who ignore her lies. They are cast from the same mould (just like their leaders)

Posted by: Dave Reardon at March 14, 2016 02:41 PM (WmLD5)

693 My wife grabbed my butt and I now have bruises. I'm off to file a police report...can't wait to get rid of the ole hag!

Posted by: Bill Clinton at March 14, 2016 02:41 PM (GHtJF)

694 Holocaust imagery?

Only a fully-triggered ADL/SPLC bedwetter could see that.

For those butthurt over how Trumpers can support an apostate from Randonomics, consider how disconcerting it is to see TruCons go full SJW/Mattress Girl on the GOP frontrunner.

Litmus test. We know where many of us stand better than we did before Trump. Thanks Trump.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 14, 2016 02:41 PM (hC9FD)

695 Posted by: Trumpbot #298738975 at March 14, 2016 02:39 PM (ci0xa)

I see what you're doing there. I for one, welcome our new robot overlords.

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 02:42 PM (lNK80)

696 >>>at 22x speed you see Allen West zoom by in Flash mode and say "nice rack babe"....

//Totes Non Donkey Al-Wa-Po Boyfriend
Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 02:40 PM (g8Hfr)>>>

How about at real speed? I'm not the one that altered the speed to alter the perception of what happened.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 02:42 PM (4ueYo)

697 Whoo Boyo I remember when Huma Abedin "Assaulted" that Hillary Donor pushing her away like a Leper and everyone called for her to be axed and apologize and Hillary to drop out...
http://thehill.com/video/in-the-news/269224-watch-abedin-rejects-clinton-supporters-hug-attempt

Posted by: zzBottom at March 14, 2016 02:42 PM (aHUpC)

698 >>>is there an element of Carol trying to keep Maggie from going full Carol?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at March 14, 2016 02:31 PM (o7Ufw)<<<

Yeah, I can definitely see that. Carol lost her daughter (not even gonna count the abusive husband) and that was everything good she had. It helped her develop the armor necessary to do some of the brutal things she's had to do.

Maggie's lost almost her entire family too (though more of them, and not all in one fell swoop), but she still has Glenn and the little bun in the oven. She doesn't need to wall herself off from attachment like Carol has. She doesn't need to be the bad ass fighter that Carol has become. She was being groomed to be Deanna's successor, and doesn't need to put herself into danger, especially in her "condition" as an expectant mother, and a hope for Alexandria's future.

Carol thinks she can have a different path. Maybe not, with the way their world is, but Carol seems determined to give her that opportunity.

Posted by: TWD Carol/John Wick 2016! at March 14, 2016 02:42 PM (H9MG5)

699 "Both sides appear to be liars, if the video is of the incident."

No both aren't liars. Why would Corey even remember her? One second contact that didn't even register with him more than crowd control.

Her description was so self-serving and over the top that of course he'd deny her account because her account is defamatory.

We've all seen security throwing people down and that is what we were lead to believe happened but that's not what occurred.

Corey should sue for defamation.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 14, 2016 02:42 PM (7gi5J)

700 Nebula [....]

Please go back to DU and ask them to teach you how to troll.

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 02:42 PM (V/X7u)

701 689

If you play it at 20x I see Trump in the grassy knolll .. with a sniper rifle

Posted by: Big Star at March 14, 2016 02:42 PM (/wt4l)

702 "Play the video at real speed, buddy. What's it show?"

Well Buddy...I'd say it shows you getting plugged from behind...Buddy...

Posted by: Skeezix at March 14, 2016 02:43 PM (WnCSK)

703 clearly you can see she was raped
Posted by: Ashley Judd at March 14, 2016 02:41 PM (dBmVV)

It should go in the Guinness world record, it happened so fast.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 02:43 PM (uURQL)

704 Let's not forget nebula-" an interstellar cloud of dust, hydrogen, helium and other ionized gases."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2016 02:41 PM (w4NZ

Helium is fun, but I don't know if I'd bring nebula to a party. He'd probably touch the kids.

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 02:43 PM (lNK80)

705 Jeez. It's like Ace was disappointed with the Horde, so he went and brought in a replacement Horde.
::::

I don't see that. Most of the anti-Trump folks and many pro-Trump folks have been here forever, including the old cobs.

What I'm seeing is a couple of people coming here and trying to tell ace he should shut up and turn over his blog to Trump's people.

Posted by: stace at March 14, 2016 02:43 PM (ozZau)

706 " It would be fun to see him/her make the case to the jury that a battery had occurred based on that video."

She has bruises.

If the cops show up at your house and your female partner shows them bruises, you're going to jail, hoss, whether there's a video or not.

But Trump's guy is special, right? The rules don't apply to him, right?

Posted by: Trumps of Doom at March 14, 2016 02:43 PM (CcpUn)

707 I can't believe anyone thinks that video requires an apology. Have some of you gone stark fucking crazy?

Obama is releasing terrorists from Gitmo, even though he KNOWS they are going back to the battlefield, the VA is KILLING THOUSANDS of our veterans from corruption and neglect, Hillary exposed SHITLOADS of highly secret information (including the names of undercover field operatives), illegal immigrants are FLOODING OUR FUCKING BORDERS and KILLING OUR CITIZENS, the national debt DOUBLED under Obama, 90 fucking MILLION Americans have been forced out of the workforce...

and ace is screaming bloody fucking murder about some drama queen attention whore with an extremely spotty track record for truthiness, who MIGHT have gotten gently pushed aside when she got too close to a PRESIDENTIAL FUCKING CANDIDATE???

What the fuck happened to this blog?

Posted by: Dogstar at March 14, 2016 02:44 PM (pIeX/)

708 >>>Well Buddy...I'd say it shows you getting plugged from behind...Buddy...

Posted by: Skeezix at March 14, 2016 02:43 PM (WnCSK)>>>

Enough about your fantasies.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 02:44 PM (4ueYo)

709 681
Piss off, Joe.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at March 14, 2016 02:38 PM (evdj2)

Sing the rest! "Me gotta go me-o my-o me gotta go pole da pirro down da bayou"

Posted by: Hank Williams at March 14, 2016 02:44 PM (aRUb8)

710 The video, all of it, is every bit as mild as her her calm and casual demeanor is in the full audio.

WP Pajama Boy was going to report on it and get his spotlight at her expense and maybe, just maybe, she felt compelled to jump out in front so it was her face in front of the cameras instead of his. Because, she's certainly comfortable to be a marginally paid online reporter for the rest of her career and hurting trump would be a bad move, right?

Oh, and maybe Shapiro quit because it's his golden moment as well to get a gravy, paying gig at Fox (as suggested) or NR or the rest of the DC circuit.

Again, the video and audio make this "battery" laughable. And bruises are really easy to make happen if you know that's going to be all you have to work with.

Posted by: Keith at March 14, 2016 02:44 PM (nFB1w)

711
Its like Cato the Elder said" carthago delinda est, because their foreign minister grabbed my secretary by the arm and left a bruise and carthage didn't apologize right away".
There were many excellent reasons why Carthage needed to be destroyed.
There are many excellent reasons to not vote for Donald Trump. In fact, our very own Cato the blogger could easily marshal much better arguments against Trump than this kerfluffle, which does not rise to a matter of policy, politics or ideology.
The most interesting oddity of all, is that bloggers seem to be stuck on this incident, instead of the fact that Trump polls consistentlybehind the worst democratic candidate in the 21st century. He's a serial philander who doesn't keep his marital vows, he allegedly doesn't keep his business vows either, and the main reason for voting for him is because one ostensibly believes he will do what he says. There's a lot of material there to work with to undercut his credibility.
Instead we get a social drama between a campaign manager and a reporter. Neither of whom is going to have any impact on governance after the election.
Its just very odd considering the wealth of material that is being left on the table by those who aresupposedly anti-trump.
I find the whole thing very confused.Perhaps that's the goal then.

Posted by: simplemind at March 14, 2016 02:44 PM (JTwsP)

712 @697
At regular speed it shows that Trump and his campaign manager are both lying. I've had enough of lying leaders, but I guess it's OK by you, as long as it's "your guy". I wonder if you'll even care when you find out he's lied to you, and he doesn't do anything he claimed he would (just like he told carson).

Posted by: Dave Reardon at March 14, 2016 02:45 PM (WmLD5)

713 What the fuck happened to this blog?
Posted by: Dogstar at March 14, 2016 02:44 PM (pIeX/)

We live in mad times.

The solution is not politicians, but repentence. Jesus saves.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 02:45 PM (uURQL)

714 "Why would Corey even remember her? "

Just how many women does he grab hard enough to leave bruises on a daily basis, would you estimate? Given that it's apparently so common that he can't be expected to remember a specific case.

Posted by: Trumps of Doom at March 14, 2016 02:45 PM (CcpUn)

715 Wherever the "Truthers" are, there is crazy.

Posted by: DriveBy at March 14, 2016 02:45 PM (C9Vc8)

716 704 Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 02:42 PM (4ueYo)

Like I said the day she was forced into an involuntary Judo encounter(ALLEGEDLY)....

"evidently I was assaulted by A Butte SilverBow Officer of the court rushing past the bus stop"

Yes contact was made though I can't tell by whom.

No this contact merited nothing more than at most "beg your pardon ma'am"

We live in a princess and the pea tissue paper society.

Our forebears are laughing their asses off at us.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 02:45 PM (g8Hfr)

717 How many days have been wasted on this yuge nothingburger?

Posted by: Flaccid Member at March 14, 2016 02:45 PM (5fSr7)

718 Always nice to visit a brawl.

Time to read something less depressing.

Posted by: Joe Mama at March 14, 2016 02:45 PM (NQmg1)

719 @715

Well judging from your post, certainly someone has lost his mind...

Posted by: Dave Reardon at March 14, 2016 02:46 PM (WmLD5)

720 You've heard of speed-dating - this incident was the first known occurrence of speed-rape.

Posted by: Stay out da bushes at March 14, 2016 02:47 PM (cR/4a)

721 But yes, the article was dogshit and they had to pull it immediately. Sadly, no one screen capped the 'Ding Dong The Jew Is gone' comments that were attached to it.
Posted by: El Kabong at March 14, 2016 02:20 PM (datdl)

The comments are still available on Disqus.

Posted by: baldilocks is back in LA at March 14, 2016 02:47 PM (ys2UW)

722 osted by: Dogstar at March 14, 2016 02:44 PM (pIeX/)

An election.

Ace's blog; His choice of posts.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2016 02:47 PM (w4NZ8)

723 So what are the thoughts on Cruz victories tomorrow? With almost no polling out of Missouri it still seems like the pundit consensus is this could be a big Cruz pickup. Perhaps along with most delegates out of Illinois.

Posted by: Skeezix at March 14, 2016 02:47 PM (WnCSK)

724 Posted by: Dogstar at March 14, 2016 02:44 PM (pIeX/)

LOL, someone is off the meds.

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 02:48 PM (kkOK3)

725 "I can't believe anyone thinks that video requires an apology. Have some of you gone stark fucking crazy? "

(goes off into a lengthy rant full of attempts to change the subject)

It's actually possible to care about more than one of those things at the same time. Really.

You're using the "Why aren't you out arresting murderers?" line that people pulled over for speeding try to use all the time. Guess what? It doesn't work for them, either.

Posted by: Trumps of Doom at March 14, 2016 02:48 PM (CcpUn)

726 What the fuck happened to this blog?

Posted by: Dogstar at March 14, 2016 02:44 PM (pIeX/)

Don't forget the BLM protestors attacking Republican rallies. You'd think any of those were more important than Grabgate. I can't be too hard on Ace, though. This really is a dead-ender Cruzbot issue, but there's little else keeping him from total despair.

Posted by: trev006 at March 14, 2016 02:49 PM (MEHba)

727 So, yeah, would-be Trump allies like the GOP, conservative movement, or immigration-restrictionist movement: I'd be super-eager to sign up to march under Trump's banner. I'm sure it will all turn out well for you. He'll definitely have your back when you need him too.

Note how Trump has not thrown Corey under the bus.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 02:50 PM (uURQL)

728 repentance and beer....not necessarily in that order

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at March 14, 2016 02:50 PM (dBmVV)

729 Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 02:45 PM (g8Hfr)

*looks at post* *ponders if this is the real sven*

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 02:50 PM (kkOK3)

730 @715

"What's happened to this blog?"

Based on your post, I'd say it appears to have been inundated by angry people with limited IQ's who make irrational comments. Also, it appears these people don't know how to find their way to Breitbart where they can vent with other angry people with double digit IQs who make a mockery of a great man's legacy.

Posted by: Dave Reardon at March 14, 2016 02:50 PM (WmLD5)

731 Are there sparkly unicorns in this video? I don't see them but I assume they must be there because most of the right is assuring me these videos show Fields being assaulted and I don't see that either, so the unicorns are there dammit, I know it and I'm gonna watch this vid till they show themselves.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at March 14, 2016 02:50 PM (yos+4)

732 >>>No this contact merited nothing more than at most "beg your pardon ma'am"

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 02:45 PM (g8Hfr)>>>

On that I agree. But this dumb fuck couldn't even do that when he found out she was affiliated with a staunch ally. Of the dumb fucky things this dumb fuck could have done, it's gotta be one of the most dumb fuckiest ever. Well, he could have gone to war with her and made Trump's media ally look bad too. Oh, yeah. He did that too.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 02:51 PM (4ueYo)

733 Ace and others are openly anti Immigrant. They have bought into white identity politics and the racial preservation garbage.
Posted by: Nebula at March 14, 2016 02:38 PM (trgxj)

Bless your sweet little heart. God didn't give you the sense he gave baby squirrels.
In the TX primary, I voted for a Hispanic guy who's the son of an immigrant.

Your candidate is either an old white woman or an old white man, neither of whose families immigrated here recently.

Posted by: stace at March 14, 2016 02:51 PM (ozZau)

734 You okay? What's gonna be so bad if Cruz or Trump become president?
Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 02:40 PM (kkOK3)
****************************

No I'm saying all this horseshit now would cripple winning the general election whether it's Cruz or Trump.

I wish I could easily say Cruz could dispatch Hillary like a fart in the wind as opposed to Trump but his campaign is proving otherwise.

Posted by: Burn It Down at March 14, 2016 02:51 PM (qHgBB)

735 Awesome. So caring about whether a reporter MIGHT have gotten pushed while in a crowd equals all that other shit.

Yeah, I'M the fucking crazy one.

Posted by: Dogstar at March 14, 2016 02:52 PM (pIeX/)

736 "Ace's blog; His choice of posts."

Not worried. Ace is great, he swings for the fences and routinely brings the runners home.

But every now and then, even Casey misses so hard he spins himself around and falls into the dirt.

He'll dust off and be back.

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 02:52 PM (V/X7u)

737 @733

Great post, but Trump supporters actually can't care about more than one thing at one time. Also, everything is binary, as will all 'bots

Posted by: Dave Reardon at March 14, 2016 02:52 PM (WmLD5)

738 737 Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 02:50 PM (kkOK3)

as real as I get.

I am so tired.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 02:53 PM (g8Hfr)

739 It's not like he clocked the delusional bitch.
Which is what Lauren, ThunderB, and chique d'afrique et al. all thought from the headlines and blog posts until they saw the video. The first video and not even the fuller, more-recent video.

Posted by: andycanuck at March 14, 2016 02:53 PM (ioqGj)

740 Hey where'd nebula go? I need another huff.

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 02:53 PM (kkOK3)

741 Ace has a visceral hatred of Trump, and he's puffing this non story to rationalize his hatred. Eff that. I will make my own decisions.

Posted by: angela urkel at March 14, 2016 02:53 PM (hHVom)

742 "What the fuck happened to this blog?"

An Extinction-Level-Event of batfuck crazy known as "Mr. Trump", that's what happened.

Posted by: DriveBy at March 14, 2016 02:54 PM (C9Vc8)

743 Well I played it a 5x speed.

You can see where he yanked her down, punched her in the face. Then I played it in reverse and actually heard him say "take that bitch".

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 14, 2016 02:54 PM (LXJ1e)

744
Since St. Patrick's day is coming up that means TNT is going to show the QUIET MAN. We canwatch John Wayne drag Maureen O'Hara all over the last 15 minutes of the film. Seriously. Such a bizarre scene.

Posted by: simplemind at March 14, 2016 02:55 PM (JTwsP)

745 Watch the video at full speed it looks much different

Posted by: The Jackhole at March 14, 2016 02:55 PM (3mTyP)

746
Boo-Boogate,and this is why women don't belong in combat units

Posted by: flawless male logic at March 14, 2016 02:55 PM (lKyWE)

747 White supremacists?

I'll quibble with Fen and say Americans are what made America - not "immigrants." The nation became greater when the immigrants who arrived were assimilated into the preexisting culture of Americans that started in the 17th century. The fact immigrants came from elsewhere was if anything a bug, not a feature, but one we turned to our advantage by turning them American.

I for one support a drastic curtailment of legal immigration as from 1920s-1960s to promote assimilation and stem cultural drift toward the Left/Other. Illegals go without saying.

The fact this position provokes "supremacist" screamers shows how deep the neoconservative kool-aid has soaked into the conservative bedrock in America.

Splutter all you like, traditional American conservatism has been anti-immigration, pro-protectionism and anti-interventionist. I've been on the other side and I see where we neocons made mistakes we're refusing to own up to. We discredited conservatism to two generations and it's biting us in the ass.

Our choice is to remain the party of discontented ideologues railing at "stupid voters" and ratf*cking our way to power or follow the Constitution and rule of law we claimed to uphold and recognize we need to scale down our ambitions and indignations and rebuild voter trust again.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 14, 2016 02:55 PM (hC9FD)

748 "Note how Trump has not thrown Corey under the bus."

And that's the takeaway his supporters will remember. No firings. No groveling apology tour. The #CivilityBullshit crowd demanded the usual Danegeld, but when home frustrated and impotent.

That's why Trump is winning. Its why Bush and Romney are considered jokes.

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 02:56 PM (V/X7u)

749 Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 02:53 PM (g8Hfr)

That's what you get for upsetting dogstar. Now you need to work on nebula.

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 02:56 PM (lNK80)

750 Nebula been hitting' the jenkem

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenkem

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at March 14, 2016 02:57 PM (dBmVV)

751 Funny Trump GIF

http://giphy.com/gifs/3o7abkti7UphSopcl2

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 14, 2016 02:57 PM (XtAzU)

752 "I'll quibble with Fen and say Americans are what made America - not "immigrants." The nation became greater when the immigrants who arrived were assimilated - "

We agree. I was dealing with a feeble troll and didn't feel like wasting breath with my Assimilation Required speech.

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 02:58 PM (V/X7u)

753 John Wayne. There was a man who knew how to grab a bitch

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at March 14, 2016 02:58 PM (dBmVV)

754 @749
I hope one of them is to go follow Breitbart, with the other dumb but angry people...

Posted by: Dave Reardon at March 14, 2016 02:58 PM (WmLD5)

755 Oh, Drudge just killed his red fonted gay execution video link.

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 02:58 PM (kkOK3)

756 "WAS IT OVER WHEN THE GERMANS BOMBED TRUMP?"

"Germans?"

" Forget it, he's on a roll."

Posted by: ain't nothin' funny about fraggin' at March 14, 2016 02:59 PM (ymhTd)

757 >>>756 "Note how Trump has not thrown Corey under the bus."

And that's the takeaway his supporters will remember.

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 02:56 PM (V/X7u)>>>

Yeah. Just Breitbart got thrown under the bus. So, if you're personal buds with Trump, you're cool. If you're staunch supporters and allies, you're not. Which are you?

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 02:59 PM (4ueYo)

758 I think we can all agree on one thing: Michelle Fields is cute.

Well, *I* agree, anyway.

Posted by: rickl at March 14, 2016 03:00 PM (sdi6R)

759 "How many days have been wasted on this yuge nothingburger?"

A lot but it's not a nothingburger because of the defamation of Corey Lewandowski.

Thank God for Corey that there is video and a crowded room of witnesses. Imagine if it was just her word against his.

I mean he threw her around like a rag doll, she had tears in her eyes, she's traumatized now.

Michelle Fields Files Criminal Charges Against Corey Lewandowski - Breitbart

Trump Cover-Up: The Manhandling of a Reporter - NRO

Trump's Big Lewandowski Problem - Rush Limbaugh

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 14, 2016 03:01 PM (7gi5J)

760 "Based on your post, I'd say it appears to have been inundated by angry people with limited IQ's who make irrational comments."

I'd say it's been inundated by priggish George Will patrician finger-waggers who act like those who disagree with their delicately nuanced Prog-friendly neoconservatism are stupid proles who deserve no voice in their own country's politics.

AKA Red State, NRO, Weekly Standard.

Optimates and their suckups are the death of republics. AEI delenda est.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 14, 2016 03:01 PM (hC9FD)

761 I still dint see nuffin. Am I stoopid?

Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 14, 2016 03:02 PM (eXTZt)

762 Yeah. Just Breitbart got thrown under the bus. So, if you're personal buds with Trump, you're cool. If you're staunch supporters and allies, you're not. Which are you?
Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 02:59 PM (4ueYo)

Demanding public apologies that will be ammunition for the left is not an act of an ally. Though now that Fields is gone, I don't see any reason for there to be bad feelings between the two camps.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 03:03 PM (uURQL)

763 I am surprised that Ace is doubling down on this. The video posted above is proof positive that this "assault" is a laughable claim. It's classic arm flailing hysterics over nothing. I've been treated worse at amusement parks, and for less.

I'm a practicing lawyer and Cruz supporter (just to get that out there), and from I've seen, this claim is a joke. It's great for damaging someone in the press, but that's it. I can only marvel at the law enforcement money pissed away haggling over this.

And for Gawd's sake, who in the f*ck is going to come out an apologize before they even know what the hell happened? That's separate from slandering someone who makes a claim, but, and I'm goign to type this slow, the party making the claim HAS THE BURDEN OF PROOFING IT. How about we actually, like, request that proof first? Brietbart actually suspended someone for asking for a video? Are you kidding me?

Let's cut the bullshit and ask yourself seriously - what Judge would find someone guilty of "assault" for that action? Then ask - what judge would actually issue a sentence of anything other than a fine? Then ask - what are the victim's damages here? Medical care? For a bruise? She made more money from putting this claim out there and getting media attention. And people that hate Trump will gladly swoop right in to give her a job.

Here's an idea - instead of swallowing hook, line and sinker every claim that's made DURING ELECTION SEASON, especially those against a guy that 50% of the country has a hard on to disgrace, we actually, like, wait 5 or so days before we run our mouths and, ya know, actually let the claim be adjudicated by a court of law? Who in the hell thinks the media, or this blog, or any blog, is gonna decide this matter finally? How many f*cking times do "we" have to learn this lesson? Ferguson, Zimmerman, Clock boy, etc., etc. For Christ's sake!

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at March 14, 2016 03:03 PM (i6shs)

764 >>>I mean he threw her around like a rag doll, she had tears in her eyes, she's traumatized now.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 14, 2016 03:01 PM (7gi5J)>>>

Never alleged, nor the standard for battery. Why is it that nearly every attempted defense appears to involve strawmen and/or hyperbole, I wonder?

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:03 PM (4ueYo)

765 As for Breitbart, most republicans have made it clear they've hated the site for quite some time and wished it would go away, or at least take Breitbarts name off it, so it's hard to take their concern for it seriously.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at March 14, 2016 03:03 PM (yos+4)

766 I mean he threw her around like a rag doll, she had tears in her eyes, she's traumatized now.

Don't forget the rape. I hear he threw a Heil Trump salute after he was done.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 03:04 PM (uURQL)

767 Watch the video at full speed it looks much different

Posted by: The Jackhole at March 14, 2016 02:55 PM (3mTyP)

But that doesn't support the narrative.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 14, 2016 03:04 PM (y7/KB)

768 Ace,

It's sad to see all the posts by people who just spew nonsense. It's really not the fun, intelligent place it used to be...

Perhaps Ace needs a Pro-Trump checkbox before you can enter. Check it, you and get sent to Breitbart, don't check and you can enter AoS

Posted by: Dagny at March 14, 2016 03:04 PM (WmLD5)

769 Does this mean I can sue my sixth grade teacher for grabbing my arm and yanking me back into the lunch line?

Posted by: Sphynx at March 14, 2016 03:05 PM (OZmbA)

770 >>>Demanding public apologies that will be ammunition for the left is not an act of an ally. Though now that Fields is gone, I don't see any reason for there to be bad feelings between the two camps.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 03:03 PM (uURQL)>>>

First of all, who said anything about a "public" apology? Second of all, Breitbart was already thrown under the bus and run over. Sure, Breitbart got up and still wants to be friends with the guy who threw them under the bus, but that doesn't mean the damage hasn't been done.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:05 PM (4ueYo)

771 @761

Yes, yes you are (since you asked)

Posted by: Dagny at March 14, 2016 03:06 PM (WmLD5)

772 I am surprised that Ace is doubling down on this. The video posted above is proof positive that this "assault" is a laughable claim. It's classic arm flailing hysterics over nothing. I've been treated worse at amusement parks, and for less.

I'm not so surprised. ace is telling us whose team he's on.

Regardless of what comes next, thanks for the memories and hosting this community, ace.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 03:06 PM (uURQL)

773 LOL Someone deleted my comment. I guess it's ok to lie about Trump's campaign staff "assaulting a reporter", but it's not ok to list all the things more important (and factual) than that.

Posted by: Dogstar at March 14, 2016 03:06 PM (pIeX/)

774 Damn, I thought our war was a propaganda war.

Good Luck USA

Posted by: Veitnam at March 14, 2016 03:06 PM (ZAjir)

775 Long time lurker here. I supported Trump before I decided to vote for the best candidate running - Cruz. I have looked at all of the pertinent videos online taken at this rally. This latest one posted by Ace is the one with the best view of the so called altercation. I have played it over and over and I just don't see it. This seems to be tied to TDS the same as CDS is rampant at Free Republic. It's amazing that we are trying to nominate a candidate to beat Hillary and all we have is a circular firing squad.

Posted by: Old Texas Chic at March 14, 2016 03:06 PM (lLXZV)

776 Sarah Palin is making a brief campaign stop with
Trump before heading back to Alaska. Todd Palin was seriously injured in
a snowmobile accident last night and is in intensive care.

Posted by: mrp at March 14, 2016 01:44 PM (JBggj)

I hope Todd Palin is OK and makes a full recovery. Now why is Palin hanging around for a rally instead of getting on the first plane home?

Posted by: redbanzai at March 14, 2016 03:07 PM (y7/KB)

777 >>>769 Does this mean I can sue my sixth grade teacher for grabbing my arm and yanking me back into the lunch line?

Posted by: Sphynx at March 14, 2016 03:05 PM (OZmbA)>>>

Probably could have if it left a bruise. But, I suspect statute of limitations has run.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:07 PM (4ueYo)

778 "after the secret Sea Island meeting,"

Don't mention that factual event that even Bill Kristol admits and was bragging about was a meeting to stop Trump or they'll call you a bumper-sticker conspiracy loon.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 14, 2016 03:08 PM (7gi5J)

779 For perhaps the first time in the history of this blog it can truly be said:

"Ace, now you grow dull."

Posted by: vanderleun at March 14, 2016 03:08 PM (MNKUS)

780 First of all, who said anything about a "public" apology?

Public accusations demand a public response. A demand for an apology in public is a demand for a public apology.

Otherwise, everything would have been private and we wouldn't know about it, duh.

Re: #2, you're assuming your conclusion. Crushing Fields' attack is not throwing Breitbart under the bus.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 03:08 PM (uURQL)

781 I'm not angry at Ace - it's his blog - but more depressed than anything. I counted on coming here day after day to get a different perspective on politics, with nice use of irreverence and humor to make great points. There was a certain fearlessness too - not being afraid to skewer tropes and cliches.

But this obsession with what might or might not have happened - a real life RASHOMON - baffles me. As others have noted, there is plenty to bash Trump with without this non-event. It's almost like this gag was the play that everyone agreed to to take out Trump, and people (like Ace) are furious it didn't work.

I'm hoping that there will be a moment of clarity a few weeks from now, when Trump is the nominee (not a supporter btw, more a student of what he represents) and we have to decide what to do with him.

Sadly, I think Trump might be taken out either before or after the nomination - he's just upsetting too many people in every direction. I'm not into conspiracy theories, but it sure does start to look weird when an obviously popular (to many) candidate not beholden to anyone is targeted this way.

Posted by: Soulpatchtony at March 14, 2016 03:08 PM (m40v5)

782 @773

You may need another layer of tinfoil...

Posted by: Dagny at March 14, 2016 03:08 PM (WmLD5)

783 VIDEO *DESTROYS* TRUMP CAMPAIGN SPIN!!!! Watch as reporter is SAVAGED by Trump stormtrooper!!!!!

Another horsepucky video that shows frakk-all about ... anything.

Christ, to hear the anti-Trumpers spin this, you'd think The Donald himself gave this talentless bint the teeth / curb stomp from "American History X." Yeah. Show me another irrelevant video that shows nothing. I'm all eyes.

Posted by: sanssoucy at March 14, 2016 03:09 PM (Zz2Yn)

784 "Sadly, no one screen capped the 'Ding Dong The Jew Is gone' comments that were attached to it."

Extreme diqus comments are evidence of ThoughtCrime. Purge the authors like Ben Shapiro said!

TruCon is the new SJW.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 14, 2016 03:09 PM (hC9FD)

785 Can't wait for the General to come in the '16 summer and Fall.

With Love,
Propaganda

Posted by: 'Nam 68-74 at March 14, 2016 03:10 PM (ZAjir)

786 Yeah well I raped your wife and she said I was better than you...

Posted by: Billy bob at March 14, 2016 03:10 PM (WmLD5)

787 >>>I have played it over and over and I just don't see it.

Posted by: Old Texas Chic at March 14, 2016 03:06 PM (lLXZV)>>>

Watching the video slowed down in an attempt to minimize the altercation over and over doesn't really do much. At regular speed, you can see it more clearly - it's minor still, but with the bruise certainly warrants a personal apology. From what I learned in kindergarten, anyway.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:10 PM (4ueYo)

788 27
I thought the video showed that he hardly touched her at all. IOW she is a liar.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 14, 2016 01:20 PM (t2KH5)
...
She said he grabbed her arm, pulled; she didn't fall but lost balance a bit... which is not too far from the video. But he grabbed her hard enough to bruise; which doesn't exactly take a long time.
HE said she's a crazy con artist liar; he never touched her, and he never got near her.Which one is the liar? Oh, the one who gave a story that lines up with what happened in the video.And we should defend as our brave truth teller the one whose claims are entirely destroyed by the video.Because when you're a Trump supporter; facts are something that happens to other people.Or is that NOT what you're saying? Because it really does look like you've decided:"facts line up with evidence? You must be the liar".

Posted by: gekkobear at March 14, 2016 03:10 PM (1tc4V)

789 Watch the video at full speed it looks much different

Posted by: The Jackhole at March 14, 2016 02:55 PM (3mTyP)

It still in no way, shape or form backs up what she claimed.

Her forward momentum toward Trump was stopped.

PERIOD.

End of story.

Posted by: Blano at March 14, 2016 03:11 PM (sdPF/)

790 Sure, Breitbart got up and still wants to be friends with the guy who threw them under the bus, but that doesn't mean the damage hasn't been done.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:05 PM (4ueYo)

If anything, seeing both Shapiros and Melissa Fields quit makes me more favorably disposed to Trump and Breitbart alike. Hopefully the other liebots will be found and purged equally quickly. Much better than a weak-kneed apology in the face of a half-assed lie.

Posted by: trev006 at March 14, 2016 03:11 PM (MEHba)

791 Still on this Ace? After Fields and Shapiro were fired/resigned from Breitbart? That Sea Island money from Soros to stop Trump still coming in? I'd like to know, if you got any. I can't figure why you don't retract, given that more video shows (at Gateway Pundit) that Fields was not even touched. The only explanations are either Soros money from the Sea Island meeting of Cruz, Jeb, Rubio, Kasich and the Oligarchs to stop Trump or white-knighting gone berserk.

GotNews has done a number on Fields. She's an attention seeking person who was fired from Daily Caller for being lazy and using social media to write her stories. She wears high heels and sexy/revealing outfits to make herself the story. She was hired at Breitbart because her boyfriend the Editor at Daily Caller pulled favors. She claimed Col Allen West raped her, but did not file charges.

Just the profile of young, White, female reporter screams hard left anti-White male hater, given that this profile is accurate in that regard something like 95% of the time. At least. Her boyfriend is an open Cruz supporter, which raises all sorts of questions.

Meanwhile all sorts of goons are jumping Trump and his supporters. And you want the typical cuckservative grovel in front of an attention whore Media Whore. That's either like I said, White Knighting** gone beserk* or Soros Sea Island Money.

*Only female relatives and women I'm sleeping with deserve my protection and support. All others can scream at White men and the patriarchy all they want. Some random media whore is my enemy confirmed by many, many encounters.

**Friends don't let Friends play White Knight. Its a fools game that only enables female dysfunction and things like sluttery, single mommery, attention whoring, and Lena Dunhamism. Really it is nearly as bad as drunk driving. I'm serious.

Posted by: Whiskey at March 14, 2016 03:11 PM (KJH87)

792 This is the Abu Ghraib of politico-media torture scandals.

Posted by: Sphynx at March 14, 2016 03:11 PM (OZmbA)

793 The SJW love to get people to "apologize", even if it's a courtesy. Then they proceed to beat you over the head with it.

As far as "apologizing", if this "assault" is a tort action, it's no different than rear ending someone in your car, and then getting out and saying "sorry, my fault". That just locked you into decision against you, based upon an admission against interest. And the driver you it drops to the ground like Curly and wiggles from "whiplash". Jesus, why do I even have to type this - you NEVER admit fault, you simply exchange info.

Anyone that thought this "assault" would have stayed private and resolved with a dozen roses clearly doesn't know the history of the people involved.

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at March 14, 2016 03:12 PM (i6shs)

794 >>>Public accusations demand a public response. A demand for an apology in public is a demand for a public apology.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 03:08 PM (uURQL)>>>

Corey was contacted privately about it well before any public accusation was made by Fields, or anyone else at Breitbart.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:12 PM (4ueYo)

795 Thanks, Dagmy! Please feel free to:

1) provide evidence that Michelle Fields was assaulted by Trump's campaign staff, and

2) how it is more important than all the other issues we are currently analyzing while choosing our preferred Republican nominee.

Posted by: Dogstar at March 14, 2016 03:12 PM (pIeX/)

796 "It's really not the fun, intelligent place it used to be..."

Yeah, I remember how it was before some commenters and cobs took it upon themselves to define the blog's Overton Window for everyone else.

Good times...

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 14, 2016 03:13 PM (hC9FD)

797 I still dint see nuffin. Am I stoopid?

Posted by: MaxMBJ at March 14, 2016 03:02 PM (eXTZt)

It doesn't help that the video is slowed down and on a loop with a narrative pre-written into it.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 14, 2016 03:13 PM (y7/KB)

798 Ace,

Do what extent do you believe Breitbart is schilling for Trump as a form of branding, relying on a caricature of Andrew Breitbart having less to do with conservatism than rabble-rousing?

Posted by: Crispian at March 14, 2016 03:13 PM (n9Zp5)

799 773
LOL Someone deleted my comment. I guess it's ok to lie about Trump's
campaign staff "assaulting a reporter", but it's not ok to list all the
things more important (and factual) than that.

Posted by: Dogstar at March 14, 2016 03:06 PM (pIeX/)

So, your comment up there at 707 was deleted for you?Amazing; i can still see it. But I'm not a trump supporter who has decided all facts are irrelevant and only my imagination and ego are what matters.Now, pretend it "was" gone, and magically came back.
Go ahead, you know you want to.

Posted by: gekkobear at March 14, 2016 03:14 PM (1tc4V)

800 >>>As far as "apologizing", if this "assault" is a tort action, it's no different than rear ending someone in your car, and then getting out and saying "sorry, my fault".

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at March 14, 2016 03:12 PM (i6shs)>>>

"Sorry if you got hurt," is not admitting fault.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:14 PM (4ueYo)

801 "She claimed Col Allen West raped her, but did not file charges."

---

When did she claim this? Link?

Posted by: SMFH while dodging circular fire at March 14, 2016 03:14 PM (rlfds)

802
781. Yeah. Something is definitely up. Its on odd little event that now musthave Yuuuuuge consequences.

I live in Cleveland.
The convention is going to be a zoo.

Posted by: simplemind at March 14, 2016 03:14 PM (JTwsP)

803 That Sea Island money from Soros to stop Trump still coming in? I'd like to know, if you got any.

O.k. Now people are accusing Ace of taking establishment money?!

I'll wait for something lighter.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2016 03:15 PM (w4NZ8)

804 @792
OMG I didn't think of it that way, you're brilliant! Anything other than male-on-male forced S&M doesn't matter! Thanks for clearing that up. I guess I can punch you in the face, and since that's not fucking you up the ass it doesn't matter (that, and you'd no doubt enjoy the fucking)

Posted by: Billy bob at March 14, 2016 03:15 PM (WmLD5)

805 It was originally #715. So sue me. If you are a long-time user of this blog, you know comment numbers get changed over time as new ones are added.

Posted by: Dogstar at March 14, 2016 03:15 PM (pIeX/)

806 Corey was contacted privately about it well before any public accusation was made by Fields, or anyone else at Breitbart.
Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:12 PM (4ueYo)

Back it up. The Trump Campaign says otherwise. Michelle Fields, In Her Own Words, does not ever mention it.

Why wouldn't she, when it would demonstrate the bad faith and lies of the Trump Campaign?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 03:15 PM (uURQL)

807 Thanks, Dagmy! Please feel free to:

1) provide evidence that Michelle Fields was assaulted by Trump's campaign staff, and

2) how it is more important than all the other issues we are
currently analyzing while choosing our preferred Republican nominee.

Posted by: Dogstar at March 14, 2016 03:12 PM (pIeX/)

Not Dagny but there is an eyewitness and a bruise on her arm (and video and audio). How is Trump's condoning uncivil and violent behavior not a campaign issue?

Posted by: redbanzai at March 14, 2016 03:16 PM (y7/KB)

808 I'll wait for something lighter.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2016 03:15 PM (w4NZ

There's a Nood about being productive despite social media and distractions above this one.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 03:16 PM (uURQL)

809 "Never alleged, nor the standard for battery. Why is it that nearly every attempted defense appears to involve strawmen and/or hyperbole, I wonder?"

--------------------
Sorry my post went over your head.

For days, before video emerged, the narrative among the faux conservative media was defamatory of Corey Lewandowski. Corey should sue Megyn too. They all jumped on the get Corey and Trump train.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 14, 2016 03:16 PM (7gi5J)

810 804
@792

OMG I didn't think of it that way, you're brilliant! Anything other
than male-on-male forced SM doesn't matter! Thanks for clearing
that up. I guess I can punch you in the face, and since that's not
fucking you up the ass it doesn't matter (that, and you'd no doubt enjoy
the fucking)

Posted by: Billy bob at March 14, 2016 03:15 PM (WmLD5)

Wow. Meds check, dude.

Posted by: Sphynx at March 14, 2016 03:16 PM (OZmbA)

811 "Perhaps Ace needs a Pro-Trump checkbox before you can enter. Check it, you and get sent to Breitbart, don't check and you can enter AoS"

Very democratic....

Posted by: Skeezix at March 14, 2016 03:17 PM (WnCSK)

812 The convention is going to be a zoo.
Posted by: simplemind at March 14, 2016 03:14 PM (JTwsP)

Consider going on vacation during that time period.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2016 03:17 PM (w4NZ8)

813 Here's an NBC pic showing the positions from a much better angle:

http://tinyurl.com/gks5y25

Looks like a Secret Service guy grabbed her. I mean, that's what those dudes are there for.

Posted by: Zapruder Film Analyzer at March 14, 2016 03:17 PM (uzNN5)

814 Where do I go to get my reputation back?

Posted by: Corey Lewandowski at March 14, 2016 03:17 PM (7gi5J)

815 >>>If anything, seeing both Shapiros and Melissa Fields quit makes me more favorably disposed to Trump and Breitbart alike. Hopefully the other liebots will be found and purged equally quickly. Much better than a weak-kneed apology in the face of a half-assed lie.
Posted by: trev006 at March 14, 2016 03:11 PM (MEHba)>>>

Well, hopefully Breitbart can pick up more readers than it's driven away (I for one have gone from being an hourly reader, to not reading them at all). And, doesn't care about its credibility beyond its core readership. If that's their business model, then I wish them good luck. Unfortunately, if Beck's stint on FNC is any indication, it may not be the best strategy for landing and retaining advertisers.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:18 PM (4ueYo)

816 Not Dagny but there is an eyewitness and a bruise on her arm (and video and audio). How is Trump's condoning uncivil and violent behavior not a campaign issue?

There are eyewitnesses going on the record that nothing happened. Audio evidence cannot possibly prove that Corey battered Fields, and we're all looking at the same video evidence.

A picture of alleged bruises exists, but they are not evidence that Corey caused them.

You told me you were a truth teller. You do a horrible job at it.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 03:18 PM (uURQL)

817 >>>For days, before video emerged, the narrative among the faux conservative media was defamatory of Corey Lewandowski. Corey should sue Megyn too. They all jumped on the get Corey and Trump train.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 14, 2016 03:16 PM (7gi5J)>>>

Well, as I cannot stand Megyn Kelly or the other GOPe enablers in the MSM, I don't watch them and have no idea what they said. As have been a regular Breitbart reader until recently, I do know what Fields said. And it's not the strawman you've set up.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:19 PM (4ueYo)

818 "Perhaps Ace needs a Pro-Trump checkbox before you can enter. Check it, you and get sent to Breitbart, don't check and you can enter AoS"

Very democratic....
Posted by: Skeezix at March 14, 2016 03:17 PM (WnCSK)

This isn't a democracy. It's ace's house.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 03:20 PM (uURQL)

819 @795
1) The video and eye witnesses. No one is saying this is the worst thing ever, just that trump lied about it, and trashed a supporter for no reason. If it's such a small matter, why did he go full nuclear ?

2) Why is it either / or? Is your brain that small? (never mind, no need to answer that)

Character matters. If you want to dismiss Trump's lies and character assassination, then it's clear character does not matter to you.

Posted by: Billy bob at March 14, 2016 03:20 PM (WmLD5)

820 Not Dagny but there is an eyewitness and a bruise on her arm (and video and audio). How is Trump's condoning uncivil and violent behavior not a campaign issue?

Posted by: redbanzai at March 14, 2016 03:16 PM (y7/KB)

An eyewitness who was a WaPo reporter doing a Trump hit piece, no doubt trying to impress a sweet piece of ass (or so he would think).

Posted by: Zapruder Film Analyzer at March 14, 2016 03:20 PM (uzNN5)

821
i can't tell from the video if the hand came from the grassy knoll or the book depository

Posted by: flawless male logic at March 14, 2016 03:20 PM (lKyWE)

822 If Ace listens to Dagny, et al and makes this blog into a safe space for Cruz/NeverTrumps, as the saying goes "lotta fine blogs out there..."

That's not how this blog used to roll. Age and increasing influence will mellow and eventually corrupt any dissident, spontaneous and fun endeavor over time.

It's up to Ace to decide whether that's where he wants to take it, or if he wants to step back from the nepostic campaign-tied abyss that's swallowed 95% of Right media.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 14, 2016 03:21 PM (hC9FD)

823 When we wake up Wednesday morning, Rubio will be out. Kasich may be too. Let us pray!

If so, out of 17 who started, the Last Two Standing will be the two who were the Biggest Outsiders.

The idea of lanes has been thoroughly disabused. "Establishment" and "Effective Governor" are gone.

Meanwhile Hillary can't shake an Old Jew Commie. It's actually comical. The DNC let Bernie run because they had to have a semblance of competition and look what's happened.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 14, 2016 03:21 PM (r1fLd)

824 "She claimed Col Allen West raped her, but did not file charges."

---

When did she claim this? Link?
Posted by: SMFH while dodging circular fire at March 14, 2016 03:14 PM (rlfds)

I think the correct term was groped, not raped.

Posted by: Blano at March 14, 2016 03:21 PM (NHQQx)

825 >>>811 "Perhaps Ace needs a Pro-Trump checkbox before you can enter. Check it, you and get sent to Breitbart, don't check and you can enter AoS"

Very democratic....
Posted by: Skeezix at March 14, 2016 03:17 PM (WnCSK)>>>

I for one am still favorably inclined toward Trump, but I think this Lewandowski clown hasn't done him any favors by being such a dumb fuck.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:21 PM (4ueYo)

826 @818
Yes, but there's been a home invasion by angry people with low IQ's and no character. He needs a new house!

Posted by: Billy bob at March 14, 2016 03:21 PM (WmLD5)

827 If you play it at 10X speed it looks like he punches her in the face.
Especially if the Benny Hill theme music is running in the background. (Yackity-Sax IIRC.)

Posted by: andycanuck at March 14, 2016 03:22 PM (ioqGj)

828 My 76 year grandmother watched this and saw the bruises, she immediately said that women tend to bruise very easy compared to men for a host of different reasons. Anemia for one if a young lady is trying stay slim, as in her case when she was a young lady.

Posted by: 'Nam 68-74 at March 14, 2016 03:22 PM (ZAjir)

829 >>>I think the correct term was groped, not raped.

Posted by: Blano at March 14, 2016 03:21 PM (NHQQx)>>>

Non-stop hyperbole and strawmen used to try and discredit her. It's pretty astounding.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:22 PM (4ueYo)

830 Very clear what happened in the video, despite the Trumpists selective memory, observation.

Looks like we have our own version of Red Bernie brigade--"Because if you're angry, just throw a tantrum and brerak stuff"(tm)

Posted by: hmitchell3rd at March 14, 2016 03:23 PM (3YCXd)

831 @gm:

Please back up your claim that Corey was privately contacted before Fields posted her public accusation.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 03:23 PM (uURQL)

832 If Ace listens to Dagny, et al and makes this blog
into a safe space for Cruz/NeverTrumps, as the saying goes "lotta fine
blogs out there..."

That's not how this blog used to roll. Age
and increasing influence will mellow and eventually corrupt any
dissident, spontaneous and fun endeavor over time.

It's up to Ace
to decide whether that's where he wants to take it, or if he wants to
step back from the nepostic campaign-tied abyss that's swallowed 95% of
Right media.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 14, 2016 03:21 PM (hC9FD)

Ace has never banned anyone for holding a different viewpoint... he does ban people for being asses repeatedly and aggressively.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 14, 2016 03:24 PM (y7/KB)

833 800 - It's also not an apology. So it's meaningless. And thus, doesn't meet the standard of "resolving the situation with class". It's actually slick and weasel-y.

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at March 14, 2016 03:24 PM (i6shs)

834 821
i can't tell from the video if the hand came from the grassy knoll or the book depository
Posted by: flawless male logic at March 14, 2016 03:20 PM (lKyWE)

Fool. It was the driver the whole time.

Posted by: Zapruder Film Analyzer at March 14, 2016 03:24 PM (uzNN5)

835 Where is the video of the grassy knoll?

Posted by: Marmo at March 14, 2016 03:25 PM (D7iLj)

836 It's worse than it looks. I did a freeze frame just before Corey turned towards Fields. He clearly did a Heil Hilter salute and you can see part of it his black jack boot (very neatly shined I may say).

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 14, 2016 03:25 PM (LXJ1e)

837 >>>Please back up your claim that Corey was privately contacted before Fields posted her public accusation.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 03:23 PM (uURQL)>>>

Matt Boyle has published his texts.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:26 PM (4ueYo)

838 Oh, I see I'm way too late to the party for that one...

Posted by: Marmo at March 14, 2016 03:26 PM (D7iLj)

839 @ 820
OK, so unless the witness was a dumbass Trump supporter it doesn't count, got it. Well, Fields WAS a trump supporter, and look where it got her.
PS, the video is clear.

Posted by: Billy bob at March 14, 2016 03:27 PM (WmLD5)

840 Ben Terris: Yeh he just threw you down.

Michelle Fields: He literally went like this and was grabbing me down. I don't even want to do what he just did to me.

The video: Um, no.

Ace, Billy bob and the other Trump haters: The video proves it!!1!11!

Posted by: Dogstar at March 14, 2016 03:27 PM (pIeX/)

841 At regular speed it shows that Trump and his
campaign manager are both lying...

Posted by: Dave Reardon at March 14, 2016 02:45 PM (WmLD5)

Maybe I take things too literally some times. On the first read I thought you meant you can read their lips and they made patently false statements.

But, then I realize you are merely extrapolating to get what you want to see out of the video.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 14, 2016 03:27 PM (T78UI)

842 And, doesn't care about its credibility beyond its core readership. If that's their business model, then I wish them good luck. Unfortunately, if Beck's stint on FNC is any indication, it may not be the best strategy for landing and retaining advertisers.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:18 PM (4ueYo)

You've hit on an important point, what WAS the point of Andrew Breitbart's career? Credibility with the broader media and public? I doubt anyone would agree with that, even among his fans. He aggressively served truth to a niche market, with bigger implications for broader politics.

Anyways. I'm not sure if you are wishing them luck or not, but if they can get a reflection of the Trump movement, maybe they will get a lot more eyeballs and ads. Does popularity matter to them? Who knows. I'd rather they be a site with integrity, who doesn't let a literal family compact form without their readers realizing it. But I must admit, a strongly pro-Trump site with broad reach won't displease me.

Posted by: trev006 at March 14, 2016 03:28 PM (MEHba)

843 The above video is what this whole hissy fit is about?

I'm not trying to start anything but I really didn't see anything troublesome.

You young folks are too touchy. Thank The Lord I'll be dead by the time you've fully taken over.

Posted by: #1Lurker at March 14, 2016 03:28 PM (a/3io)

844 "Those who have ears let them hear"
"Those who have eyes let them see"
Those who don't, spew angry pro-Trump bile...

Posted by: Dagny at March 14, 2016 03:29 PM (WmLD5)

845 >>>You've hit on an important point, what WAS the point of Andrew Breitbart's career? Credibility with the broader media and public? I doubt anyone would agree with that, even among his fans. He aggressively served truth to a niche market, with bigger implications for broader politics.

Posted by: trev006 at March 14, 2016 03:28 PM (MEHba)>>>

He wanted to be in the culture and impact it. Isolating themselves isn't going to achieve that.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:29 PM (4ueYo)

846 >>>I'd rather they be a site with integrity, who doesn't let a literal family compact form without their readers realizing it.

Posted by: trev006 at March 14, 2016 03:28 PM (MEHba)>>>

Yeah. I wish they had integrity too. But I think that ship has sailed.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:30 PM (4ueYo)

847 @843
Glad to hear! hope you pass before you vote!
See you in hell !

Posted by: Billy Bob at March 14, 2016 03:30 PM (WmLD5)

848 I give this story 2 "mehs". I'm not a Trump guy, but I don't see any brutal assault on a woman.

To my eye, he was trying to catch up to the Trump entourage. She was in his way. He grabbed her upper arm and pulled her aside to get past her. I didn't see any motion that would indicate that he even grabbed her wrist, but you can't see everything. I did not see where she was yanked back hard enough to warrant her comments in the immediate aftermath.

I can easily see where he would say afterward that he didn't touch her. That type of contact would have been something that happened and then was done and was so inconsequential as to not register.

This is what I see: I see two people who have heard or seen Corey Landowskibe rough with people (especially given that one of the two was writing and article on that specific point). He then engages in an act that could have been that type behavior but was more likely incidental as I stated. It became what they believed it to be whether it actually was or not. Kerfluffle ensues.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at March 14, 2016 03:30 PM (ND9o5)

849 Matt Boyle has published his texts.
Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:26 PM (4ueYo)

I see. You are wrong.

10:50 p.m. ME: "Hey dude what happened with Michelle Fields tonight? Is everything OK?"

10:51 p.m. COREY: "Who?"

10:52 p.m. ME: "Check out @Jamie_Weinstein's Tweet: [LINK TO TWEET]"

Dug up the tweet for you, too.
https://twitter.com/Jamie_Weinstein/status/707407739744591872

"Trump always surrounds himself w thugs. Tonight thug Corey Lewandowski tried to pull my gf @MichelleFields to ground when she asked tough q"

So the Matt Boyle texts came AFTER the public accusation of thuggery was made. Please do better job investigating facts next time.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 03:32 PM (uURQL)

850
769 Does this mean I can sue my sixth grade teacher for grabbing my arm and yanking me back into the lunch line?

i went to a catholic school,the nuns appendage of choice was the ear

Posted by: flawless male logic at March 14, 2016 03:32 PM (lKyWE)

851 "It's worse than it looks. I did a freeze frame just before Corey turned towards Fields. He clearly did a Heil Hilter salute and you can see part of it his black jack boot (very neatly shined I may say)."

--------------------

OMG...I just saw Corey kick a puppy and burn some books right before he shined his jack boots and did his Hitler salute.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 14, 2016 03:33 PM (7gi5J)

852 Ace: "Meanwhile, Trump and Lowandowski's utter refusal to simply say "I saw someone coming quickly, I acted too hastily and grabbed her, I apologize" has now completely melted down Trump's only media ally, Breitbart."

In "Lonesome Dove", hard-ass Capt. Gus McCall tells his son "Never apologize; it's a sign of weakness." This could be the Trump motto. But in real life, we know that never apologizing is actually the sign of a weak and insecure man.

This episode reminds of Travelgate, where Hillary chose to Trump-up false charges against Billy Dale rather than
apologize. He went through hell just cos Dragon Lady didn't want to take a tiny pr hit.

Trump says he supported her for his business, but I think he gave her a hundred times more than he ever gave to veterans because they are alike, politically and personally. bullies. fakes. liberals.

But if he supported her just for business, that's
even worse; he sold us out simply to pad his bank account.

Posted by: The Wolf Who Cried Boy at March 14, 2016 03:34 PM (Ndje9)

853 " 'Sorry if you got hurt', is not admitting fault."

Amateurs. A comment like that would have just created a new outrage mob.

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 03:34 PM (V/X7u)

854 @840

funny how you immediately use "hate" for anyone who disagrees with your leader. I don't think a trump supporter can write a post w/o "hate", "fuck" or "retard"

Posted by: Billy Bob at March 14, 2016 03:35 PM (WmLD5)

855 >>>He grabbed her upper arm and pulled her aside to get past her. I didn't see any motion that would indicate that he even grabbed her wrist, but you can't see everything. I did not see where she was yanked back hard enough to warrant her comments in the immediate aftermath.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at March 14, 2016 03:30 PM (ND9o5)>>>

Watch it at regular speed. It's clear he yanked her out of the way. And the bruises indicate he probably grabbed her fairly hard. After being contacted by Breitbart, he could have easily given her a private apology that he's sorry if she got hurt. No admission of fault or anything. Would have nipped what should have been a non-troversy in the bud. But he's a dumb fuck. What else can be said?

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:35 PM (4ueYo)

856 Ace, let it go. Sperging out on this weak sauce isn't doing you any favors. I mean, didn't you admit awhile back that in the past you've lied for the GOP? So clearly we've established what you are, now I guess we just have to haggle over the price.

Posted by: Ken at March 14, 2016 03:36 PM (dGXW9)

857 I'm waiting for the video of the Pastor calling for the execution of all gays right before he introduces Cruz.

But, yeah, this is a HUGE freaking story.

With Love,
Priorities

Posted by: Milo at March 14, 2016 03:38 PM (ZAjir)

858 >>>Amateurs. A comment like that would have just created a new outrage mob.

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 03:34 PM (V/X7u)>>>

Not from Breitbart. Breitbart was just begging for any excuse to put the "controversy" to bed. So much so that Joel Pollack published a nonsensical story about a second yanker on a grassy knoll to try and save face for Breitbart while absolving Trump.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:38 PM (4ueYo)

859 @ 848
Nice to see a rational comment

I think the issue isn't the contact, but the vile character assassination that followed. If it was so minor, why smear her? It's so much like Bill Clinton. I guess that's why a high % of trump supporters are democrats. Feels like old times, Bill smearing his accusers, abusing women. Good times.

Posted by: Dagny at March 14, 2016 03:39 PM (WmLD5)

860 @gm:

Please acknowledge my factual correction and either refute it or accept it.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 14, 2016 03:39 PM (uURQL)

861 "But he grabbed her hard enough to bruise; which doesn't exactly take a long time."

There is no evidence of that.

There is a picture she posted of light bruising to her forearm, but no evidence that he was the cause.

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 03:39 PM (V/X7u)

862 So, your comment up there at 707 was deleted for you?Amazing; i can still see it. But I'm not a trump supporter who has decided all facts are irrelevant and only my imagination and ego are what matters.Now, pretend it "was" gone, and magically came back.
Go ahead, you know you want to.
Posted by: gekkobear at March 14, 2016 03:14 PM (1tc4V)

Life might be better if his comments were deleted......

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 03:40 PM (kkOK3)

863 >>>No this contact merited nothing more than at most "beg your pardon ma'am"

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 02:45 PM (g8Hfr)>>>

On that I agree. But this dumb fuck couldn't even do that when he found out she was affiliated with a staunch ally. Of the dumb fucky things this dumb fuck could have done, it's gotta be one of the most dumb fuckiest ever. Well, he could have gone to war with her and made Trump's media ally look bad too. Oh, yeah. He did that too.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 02:51 PM (4ueYo)

I think somebody upthread posted that the audio to this tape has Corey saying "pardon me".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 14, 2016 03:40 PM (/i7Ua)

864 I can't find any evidence that she privately attempted to get an apology from Lewandowski. I do see that she immediately told the WaPo guy he could run with it.

Also, her description from her article doesn't match up with the event. Trump was walking by her when she asked the question. He didn't seem to answer and kept walking. She followed and that was when Lewandowski grabbed her armed, stopped her, and walked by.

From her article:
Trump acknowledged the question, but before he could answer I was jolted backwards. Someone had grabbed me tightly by the arm and yanked me down. I almost fell to the ground, but was able to maintain my balance. Nonetheless, I was shaken.

Posted by: WOPR at March 14, 2016 03:40 PM (LTDSy)

865 @857
Show us the link. I'm sure you were jerking off to it, since you trump folks like violence so much.

Posted by: Billy Bob at March 14, 2016 03:40 PM (WmLD5)

866 "Glad to hear! hope you pass before you vote!
See you in hell !"

What is your fucking problem dipshit...

Posted by: Skeezix at March 14, 2016 03:41 PM (WnCSK)

867 "It's hard to improvise something like that".

Why yes. Yes, it is.

Posted by: phunctor at March 14, 2016 03:42 PM (5VvBx)

868 @866
Ooh, dipshit, that's a good comeback. God you double digit people are so boring

Posted by: Billy Bob at March 14, 2016 03:43 PM (WmLD5)

869 855 gm

GM, exactly what I was thinking. It's pretty clear if you understand physics and watch how she comes down and around, then sort of has a stunned look on her face.

This is just common sense. But some folks just want to crush it to get an ego boost or prove themselves superior arbiters of all things reporter or Trump.

I think her reaction and that of the WaPo reporter corroborate what happened. No one indicated she was thrown to the floor or raped or whatever other nonsense some "think" they heard, but didn't.

Just unbelievable how something sort of just simple observation can be so mixed up with the heated arguments, etc.

I don't love reporters, but I've never seen a reporter, or a female reporter, jerked out of the way by a campaign official. That is quite unusual and if you're ok with that, then you and I just disagree.

Posted by: hmitchell3rd at March 14, 2016 03:43 PM (3YCXd)

870 "he could have easily given her a private apology that he's sorry if she got hurt. No admission of fault or anything."

---------------

You are nuts. You have any idea how many people Corey, Trump and his SS crew come in contact with on any given day? It's literally thousands.

This special snowflake needs to apologize to Trump for touching and moving in a presidential candidate and to Corey for a false claim of assault.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 14, 2016 03:44 PM (7gi5J)

871 I'm waiting for the video of the Pastor calling for the execution of all gays right before he introduces Cruz.

But, yeah, this is a HUGE freaking story.

With Love,

Priorities

Posted by: Milo at March 14, 2016 03:38 PM (ZAjir)

You will not get far here starting with a lie.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 14, 2016 03:45 PM (y7/KB)

872 Over weekend, Tapper asked Trump about his "condoning" violence. Trump denies. Tapper plays clips of Trump explicitly condoning violence. Trump responds, "how about all the times I told them to take it easy?"

Tapper only laughs and moves on, because what else can you do...beyond explaining basic logic and grammar.

Posted by: Crispian at March 14, 2016 03:45 PM (n9Zp5)

873 yeah, they have to keep changing the defense. and why? because this was entirely created by Trump. all she wanted was an apology (and she was keeping it private at that point).

instead, they decided to call her "delusional."
Posted by: ace at March 14, 2016 01:28 PM (dciA+)
________________

Yes, nothing says, "I never sought to be part of the story" than immediately authoring a story about yourself, putting your own fucking NAME in the headline and using a giant glamor headshot of yourself to illustrate the story.

http://tinyurl.com/jc7hw6g

Oh, did I mention she has a book coming out?

So, she tried to ask DJT a question as he was being escorted out of the room and she got shooed aside just like the 10 reporters before her and the 10 reporters after her. Was it Corey or the SS agent that did the shooing? Who gives a fuck. Whatever it was, it wasn't violent or horrible enough to wipe the smile off her face. So, no apology was necessary, and none was going to be given. It's a nothing burger. Take a bite.

It is not that surprising that during this GOP crack up, there was a cabal of Cruz supporters at BB News willing to conspire with leftists from the WP to fabricate an event that played into a desired narrative. (Trump is a misogynist that condones violence) It is just sad to see a writer like Ace, who I admire so much, so shamelessly promote such nonsense. It truly makes me sad. I hope that we can put all this back together after whoever wins and we are no longer blinded by rooting interests.

Posted by: tommylotto at March 14, 2016 03:45 PM (A3a8d)

874 "If the cops show up at your house and your female partner shows them bruises, you're going to jail, hoss, whether there's a video or not. But Trump's guy is special, right? The rules don't apply to him, right?"

What an odd remark. Since men are routinely set up by female partners falsely accusing them of abuse ("Look officer! I TOTALLY did not get these bruises at my martial arts class. He did it!") then Landowski should likewise have his civil rights suspended?

When did the SJW feminists start coming to AceOfSpades?

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 03:46 PM (V/X7u)

875
I think somebody upthread posted that the audio to this tape has Corey saying "pardon me".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 14, 2016 03:40 PM (/i7Ua)

-----------------

The Politico transcript has Corey saying "Excuse me... thank you"

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 14, 2016 03:47 PM (LXJ1e)

876 Non-stop hyperbole and strawmen used to try and discredit her. It's pretty astounding.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:22 PM (4ueYo)

Someone asked about the"raped" comment. I merely pointed out Fields accused Allan West of groping her, not raping her.

She has already discredited herself, as well as anybody defending her.

Posted by: Blano at March 14, 2016 03:48 PM (uiVGU)

877 Yes, nothing says, "I never sought to be part of the story" than immediately authoring a story about yourself, putting your own fucking NAME in the headline and using a giant glamor headshot of yourself to illustrate the story.

Posted by: tommylotto at March 14, 2016 03:45 PM (A3a8d)

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Not to mention the WaPo reporter asks 2 SECONDS LATER

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 14, 2016 03:49 PM (LXJ1e)

878 In another story about a roughed reporter, recall that
Dinesh D'Souza got eight months for a relatively minor campaign finance infraction following the release of his film, 2016, about President Obama.

He's about to release a film about Hillary Clinton that he says will get him a lifelong prison sentence.

Perspective, people.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 14, 2016 03:49 PM (r1fLd)

879 Breaking News:

A class action law suit has been filed by every man their penises against Miss Fields for the bruising and rawness in addition to swollen members from handjobs.

Those jobs left the men floored.

It is something they ill never want or have to recall again.

With Love,
Double Standards

Posted by: Men at March 14, 2016 03:49 PM (ZAjir)

880 Read this and it pretty much tells you all you need to know:

http://tinyurl.com/hf3o4pl

Posted by: hmitchell3rd at March 14, 2016 03:49 PM (3YCXd)

881 I still didn't see the cookies.

Posted by: Roscoe at March 14, 2016 03:50 PM (lHpdV)

882 Yes, nothing says, "I never sought to be part of the story" than immediately authoring a story about yourself, putting your own fucking NAME in the headline and using a giant glamor headshot of yourself to illustrate the story.

Posted by: tommylotto at March 14, 2016 03:45 PM (A3a8d)

------------------

Not to mention the WaPo reporter asks 2 SECONDS LATER "can I put that in my story?"

Fields: "Yeah, go ahead"

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 14, 2016 03:50 PM (LXJ1e)

883 @843

I think the issue isn't the level of confrontation, but the denial and character assassination that followed. If it was so minor (and I think it was relatively minor an innocent) why engage it hateful polemics and character assassination afterward?

It speaks to the lack of character of Trump and his aids.

Posted by: Dagny at March 14, 2016 03:50 PM (WmLD5)

884 1) I agree that the safest and easiest course would have been to issue an apology. However,

2) I can't even tell from the video at which point she was "grabbed." As others have said, she was never "jerked" or even moved even in the slightest. Nor was there a wince or anything showing there was even the tiniest bit of pain or discomfort.

3) There is no way to justify her saying that she was even "almost" thrown to the floor if this is the moment that it happened. She never even budged. So she's clearly lying about being "jolted backward."

4) I agree that's entirely possible (and perhaps even probable) that the guy grabbed her. However, it is also clear that, if this is the moment in question, that she has taken "crying wolf" about how she was so horribly abused to an entirely new level.

5) I understand that this has clearly become anti-Trump territory, but it is possible for *BOTH* parties to be in the wrong here. The video does show that she has clearly lied about what exactly it was that happened, and her conversation with the WaPo reporter does show that she was indeed looking to be part of the story from the outset. So the Trump people have a point where that is concerned.

6) Enough with the white-knighting of Fields which is actually nothing more than just barely concealed anti-Trump stuff.

Posted by: Jim_B at March 14, 2016 03:50 PM (CTd1K)

885 No this contact merited nothing more than at most "beg your pardon ma'am"

Posted by: sven10077 at March 14, 2016 02:45 PM (g8Hfr)>>>

Beg, you pardon would suffice if he had bumped into her by accident. It does not suffice when he grabbed her. At that point, he would really need to say "I am sorry I grabbed you."

Posted by: redbanzai at March 14, 2016 03:51 PM (y7/KB)

886 Ace starts with me with 90% credibility. I read his content with "yeah, seems legit" as my default. I like that. Continuous narrative deconstruction is tiring and not fun. So I don't want to lose it.

I cannot see a flicker of emotion on her face in that video, or any discontinuity in her motion that might suggest an outside force on her. Ace, please tell us what you're seeing, because we're not seeing it.

I'd vote for Cruz in a heartbeat, but I think Trump's ability to make progtards drop their masks is pretty much our last hope. But considering 2012.. well let's not despair. Because it's a sin.

Posted by: phunctor at March 14, 2016 03:53 PM (5VvBx)

887 ""he could have easily given her a private apology that he's sorry if she got hurt. No admission of fault or anything."

-----------------------

The whole world is suppose to know who Michelle Fields is.

Unbelievable. Trump is literally accosted by throngs of people everywhere he goes but the world needs to stop for some special snowflake named - Michelle Fields - who was treated like every other person who invades Trump's (a presidential candidate with SS protection) personal space.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 14, 2016 03:53 PM (7gi5J)

888 @ 874

"When did the SJW feminists start coming to AceOfSpades?"

I dunno, when did you get your sex change operation?

Posted by: Billy Bob at March 14, 2016 03:53 PM (WmLD5)

889 It doesn't help that the video is slowed down and on a loop with a narrative pre-written into it.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 14, 2016 03:13 PM (y7/KB)

Question for you: if this video is presented in such a way as to minimize the alleged battery upon Fields, and Ace is taking the position that, "yes, indeed, there was a battery upon Fields, and this video proves it", why did he not obtain and post a copy of the video at normal speed, which surely must be available?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 14, 2016 03:55 PM (/i7Ua)

890 Beg, you pardon would suffice if he had bumped into
her by accident. It does not suffice when he grabbed her. At that point,
he would really need to say "I am sorry I grabbed you."

Posted by: redbanzai at March 14, 2016 03:51 PM (y7/KB)

So she gets to barge into a security/staff entourage, without an apology, but her removal warrants a full blown apology. I can deal with it if you say that's her job, and my retort is that blocking her approach was his job, but you have anterior motives, so it's important to blow this up as a last ditch, pathetic, effort to stop Trump. The fact that you cover that fact up, while complaining that Trump attempted to cover up this event, appears to be nothing more than desperate flop sweat.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 14, 2016 03:56 PM (/1gXq)

891 >>> Enough with the white-knighting of Fields which is actually nothing more than just barely concealed anti-Trump stuff.

Posted by: Jim_B at March 14, 2016 03:50 PM (CTd1K)>>>

It's not white knighting to say that a woman shouldn't be subject to battery. Sorry. Insistence to the contrary weakens legitimate arguments against actual white knighting.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:58 PM (4ueYo)

892 If you slow the video down x10 you will see Ms Fields hand brush against my engorged penis. It was my swift reaction that prevented any further molestation by Ms Fields.

Posted by: Corey at March 14, 2016 03:59 PM (GHtJF)

893
i got knocked to the ground by a dancing tea cup at disneyland once as a child.and i never recieved an apology from that bitch alice

Posted by: flawless male logic at March 14, 2016 03:59 PM (lKyWE)

894 It was originally #715. So sue me. If you are a long-time user of this blog, you know comment numbers get changed over time as new ones are added.

Posted by: Dogstar at March 14, 2016 03:15 PM (pIeX/)

There are troll comments being nuked. Which causes the comment numbers of legitimate comments to change. It's not about you. Best to quote at least a little of the original comment and the tag line when responding to one,

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 14, 2016 03:59 PM (/i7Ua)

895
"Ted Cruz: Donald Trump sees protesters as disloyal people who must be punished"

It's worse than that. Cruz triples down.

He never mentions that Trump has private events and is also is
talking about self defense for his supporters. Not starting anything but
finishing things - ***if need be. They chant for USA until security
comes.

Complete bullshit spin by Trump detractors.

Cruz is the lowest of the low for encouraging anti-Constitutional memes.

Posted by: Misfortune Pestilence at March 14, 2016 02:34 PM (7gi5J)

Campaign rallies are usually public events... some are ticketed events. If the protesters have tickets, they are not trespassing until told to leave. Also, there has been violence against protesters that were not violent first.

You don't get to punch someone just for being a liberal asshole.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 14, 2016 04:00 PM (y7/KB)

896 I will also say that the bruise marks on her arm looked suspiciously UNLIKE the bruises that would be left behind by someone grabbing your arm. What they DID look like was someone who grabbed her own arm with the fingertips of her opposite hand and squeezed really hard.

Take a look again at her supposed "proof." Those are very suspiciously NOT the elongated marks that most likely would have been left behind by the hand of a grown man (try grabbing your arm with your hand and think about how that bruising would look.) grabbing someone's arm.

I'm not saying that it's not possible that she was grabbed by his fingertips, but that is not how I would personally grab someone by the arm. It just seems extra suspicious in light of the lack of evidence of what she claimed was some kind of crazy assault on her person.

Posted by: Jim_B at March 14, 2016 04:00 PM (CTd1K)

897 871 I'm waiting for the video of the Pastor calling for the execution of all gays right before he introduces Cruz.

But, yeah, this is a HUGE freaking story.

With Love,

Priorities

Posted by: Milo at March 14, 2016 03:38 PM (ZAjir)

You will not get far here starting with a lie.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 14, 2016 03:45 PM (y7/KB)

Whatever the video says, as I will stand corrected my friend. My point is the deception and propaganda is out of freaking control.

I pray we can come to an agreement on that.

Go in peace.

http://tinyurl.com/zuku4pe

Posted by: Milo at March 14, 2016 04:01 PM (ZAjir)

898 It's not white knighting to say that a woman shouldn't be subject to battery. Sorry. Insistence to the contrary weakens legitimate arguments against actual white knighting.
Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:58 PM (4ueYo)

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Let it go to a judge then. After he spits out his coffee thru the nose laughing, you can then stop calling it battery.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 14, 2016 04:01 PM (LXJ1e)

899 >>>I can deal with it if you say that's her job, and my retort is that blocking her approach was his job, but you have anterior motives, so it's important to blow this up as a last ditch, pathetic, effort to stop Trump.

Posted by: DFCtomm at March 14, 2016 03:56 PM (/1gXq)>>>

First of all, it's actually not his job. It's the job of security to do that. Second of all, he didn't simply "block her approach." Third: I'm actually favorably inclined to Trump, but whatever, impugn away.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 04:02 PM (4ueYo)

900 It's not white knighting to say that a woman shouldn't be subject to battery. Sorry. Insistence to the contrary weakens legitimate arguments against actual white knighting.
Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 03:58 PM (4ueYo)

I can't wait to see these charges thrown out.

Do you cry when people look your way? Sounds like it.

Posted by: Blano at March 14, 2016 04:02 PM (sdPF/)

901 Ace sounds like he's on the verge of solving this mystery once and for all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlV3oQ3pLA0

Posted by: Dogstar at March 14, 2016 04:02 PM (pIeX/)

902 >>>Let it go to a judge then. After he spits out his coffee thru the nose laughing, you can then stop calling it battery.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 14, 2016 04:01 PM (LXJ1e)>>>

Well, I suppose it will may go to a judge if a prosecutor so determines. But, the standards of proof for criminal law, civil law, and public opinion are not quite the same, are they? Or do you believe that OJ didn't kill his wife?

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 04:04 PM (4ueYo)

903 Hey, is there still dogstar and nebula to huff? I had to go do something.

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 04:05 PM (kkOK3)

904 >>>Do you cry when people look your way? Sounds like it.

Posted by: Blano at March 14, 2016 04:02 PM (sdPF/)>>>

Do you have an actual argument? Or, is your repertoire filled only with ad hominem?

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 04:05 PM (4ueYo)

905 @884

All that was wanted was an apology.

Corey Langoustini has no license to grab anybody. That fact is simple and true. If this had been Rahm grabbing a reporter, same analysis. Either Corey thinks nothing of such minor assault or was caught up in a hectic moment and not fully aware of his actions. Either case, he was wrong. We don't see the reporter's full reaction, let alone clearly. She says it was disconcerting and sufficiently rough to leave bruising. Makes sense to me. There is nothing in this video to show the reporter is "lying." You claim that she claims something worse happened to her, but that's not true. Corey needs to apologize and cease from grabbing anyone in the future.

Posted by: Crispian at March 14, 2016 04:06 PM (n9Zp5)

906 Don't worry, Draki. The NEXT video will prove to everyone that you and Ace were right. It's out there, all right. Just a matter of time before it surfaces.

Just a matter of time...

Posted by: Dogstar at March 14, 2016 04:07 PM (pIeX/)

907 Bob: "I dunno, when did you get your sex change operation?"

Ouch. Did that hurt? If you are trying to be insulting, then be insulting. Don't be lame or weak about it. That was like watching a girl learn to throw.

Posted by: Fen at March 14, 2016 04:08 PM (V/X7u)

908 Campaign rallies are usually public events... some are ticketed events. If the protesters have tickets, they are not trespassing until told to leave. Also, there has been violence against protesters that were not violent first.

You don't get to punch someone just for being a liberal asshole.
---------------------------------

Trump's rallies are PRIVATE events. He pays for the halls. He can kick out anyone he wants. When they disrupt they have obviously crossed the line from asshole to trespasser.

Before a rally starts his staff tells the audience NOT to take things into their own hands. Chant USA and security will handle things.

Some of these trespassers have swung at Trump supporters in Trump's PRIVATE event. There has only been ONE instance of a 'supporter' swinging back and I don't know all of the circumstances.

Trump is speaking like a man...self-defense is OK if you are threatened or hurt. That's it self-defense.

Cruz is a scumbag. Mr. Constitution is the establishment hack I always knew he was.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 14, 2016 04:12 PM (7gi5J)

909 Posted by: Dogstar at March 14, 2016 04:07 PM (pIeX/)

LOL, you remind me of that lady who said she'll vote for trump even if he kills one of her family members.

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 04:13 PM (lNK80)

910 @907
OK. let me put it in Trump terms that you can under stand: Fuck You!
There, feel better, or was that still too unclear?

Posted by: Billy Bob at March 14, 2016 04:15 PM (WmLD5)

911 Do you have an actual argument? Or, is your repertoire filled only with ad hominem?
Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 04:05 PM (4ueYo)

I've already made my argument, and the video backs me up.

So fuck off.

Posted by: Blano at March 14, 2016 04:16 PM (NHQQx)

912 Hey Dagny: Fuck you, Whore Bitch

Trump 2015!

Posted by: Rough Rider at March 14, 2016 04:17 PM (WmLD5)

913
"If the cops show up at your house and your female partner shows them bruises, you're going to jail, hoss, whether there's a video or not. But Trump's guy is special, right? The rules don't apply to him, right?"

if the cops showed up to your door its means they had a call about a domestic dispute.so seeing bruises is reasonable suspicion of abuse

Posted by: flawless male logic at March 14, 2016 04:17 PM (lKyWE)

914 >>>So fuck off.

Posted by: Blano at March 14, 2016 04:16 PM (NHQQx)>>>

Great argument. Very persuasive.

Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 04:19 PM (4ueYo)

915 The truth is simple and self-evident. The video doesn't jive with Fields' account of the incident. The Drudge vids show Cruz is affiliated with some relatively unorthodox, creepy Christian groups. Deal with it.

Posted by: Crazy Jane at March 14, 2016 04:22 PM (z/B/W)

916 *Sign*
This used to be such a nice neighborhood before the mob showed up...

Posted by: Dagny at March 14, 2016 04:22 PM (WmLD5)

917 Oops
*sigh*

Posted by: Dagny at March 14, 2016 04:23 PM (WmLD5)

918 Posted by: Blano at March 14, 2016 04:16 PM (NHQQx)>>>

Great argument. Very persuasive.
Posted by: gm at March 14, 2016 04:19 PM (4ueYo)

+1

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 04:25 PM (kkOK3)

919 "Trump Finally Asserts Private Property Rights"
- Market Ticker

"Donald Trump, like all candidates for political office, rents his space for rallies and such. Nobody gives away aircraft hanger and football stadium time for free. He pays for it out of campaign funds he, or some group directly affiliated with him, controls."

"You do so with your home or business too. You pay rent or a mortgage. If you rent an apartment, house, hotel room, business location, or have a mortgage, you own, during the time of that rental or payment, that space."

SNIP

"That room is your property during that period of time and those other people came there under false pretense. They lied to you in order to gain admission as they had no intention in participating in the peaceful watching of the Superbowl."

"The same applies at your house or apartment, of course. If you invite me over to watch a movie and I instead decide that I'm going to try to prevent you from doing so by rising from my chair and displaying a nasty slogan on my shirt along with blocking your TV, and perhaps screaming epithets at the top of my lungs, you would throw me out."

"You'd throw them out."

"If they refused to leave you'd really throw them out, and whatever reasonable level of physical force was necessary to eject them would not only be ok morally it would be lawful too."

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 14, 2016 04:27 PM (7gi5J)

920 All he wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to him.

Posted by: My Best Interests at March 14, 2016 04:27 PM (pQbJ5)

921 Posted by: Crazy Jane at March 14, 2016 04:22 PM (z/B/W)

I will by not going to gateway anymore. Glad Drudge accepted his error and took it down.

Posted by: Draki at March 14, 2016 04:27 PM (kkOK3)

922 @ Jane
Unlike Trump, who doesn't have ANY creepy followers...

Posted by: Dagny at March 14, 2016 04:27 PM (WmLD5)

923 Dagny,
Ha dumb cunt can't spel

Posted by: Rough Rider at March 14, 2016 04:28 PM (WmLD5)

924 Are people really saying what is on that video constitutes an ASSAULT?

People are really saying that?

Is there another video or more to the video I'm not seeing?

Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, The Highlander at March 14, 2016 04:29 PM (/Owtt)

925 Hey Jane, you're my type of women. send me your info, huh?

Posted by: Rough Rider at March 14, 2016 04:29 PM (WmLD5)

926
i've been a daily reader of this blog since 2006 and this is the dumbedst thread i've ever seen here

Posted by: flawless male logic at March 14, 2016 04:32 PM (lKyWE)

927 @847 Billy Bob

Geez, you are a real nasty piece of work. You got a parent?

Posted by: Mica Vim Toot at March 14, 2016 04:33 PM (SRurx)

928 Flawless.
Maybe that's because you're a loser. Maybe you're a dumb thread.

Posted by: Rough Rider at March 14, 2016 04:34 PM (WmLD5)

929
Okay, I have to make a correction to my previous invisible comment.

I said that trajectory of Field's body did not change in the slightest.
I've carefully reviewed the footage about five times more.
My initial claim is NOT true.
As Lewandowski is passing Fields we can clearly see him raise his arm, from that motion it seems very likely that he touches her arm as he's passing her. (We can't see for certain that he touches her because of other bodies in the way. But certainly seems likely that he did.)
Keep in mind that Lewandowski is simply helping shepherd Trump through a throng as they were trying to leave. - That's obvious enough.
But as he passes her, Fields does slow down and then finally faces a different direction. While it's possible she changed her trajectory for some other reason than Lewandowski touching her, it certainly seems very unlikely.

But, again, something else that we can clearly see is the look on Field's face. She clearly does not look distressed or even concerned - let alone in any kind of pain.

And there is yet another thing we can clearly see. Assuming the very likely case that Lewandowski did touch Fields and that's why she slowed down: she was obviously NOT almost thrown to the ground.
- And that was her claim. She has repeatedly emphasized that the grab was so forceful that she was nearly thrown to the ground. This video clearly puts the lie to her claim.

That Lewanbowski did not recall the briefest of moments when he likely touched Fields as he and his candidate were trying to exit and having to navigate a throng is not surprising.
Why would he recall that moment?
Had he actually violently grabbed her and nearly thrown her to the ground - AS SHE HAS REPEATEDLY AND EMPHATICALLY CLAIMS HE DID - then there would be no way he could forget it.
Then there would be reason for Trump to fire him and for everyone else to expect Trump to fire him. (And not just for being a brute but for lying about it.)

But that's not what happened. What's happened is that Michelle Fields has taken an innocuous mole hill and tried to lie her way into turning it into an evil Mount Mordor.
- And she's been caught doing it.

Posted by: is this a test - no it's a Trump guy at March 14, 2016 04:35 PM (zhLKc)

930 And I'm out... Just too crazy for me, but then again I'm "a wimp, a loser, a dumb bitch, etc." I'm no match for this witty intellectual gab fest.

I do wish Jane and "Rough Rider" the best, they seem like a nice couple, perhaps Trump will come to their wedding (a Hillary reference, that's all).

Posted by: Dagny at March 14, 2016 04:38 PM (WmLD5)

931 Dagny, do you know how the hash works at Ace's?

Posted by: S. Weasel at March 14, 2016 04:40 PM (kfmy1)

932 Ha! Another one bites the dust - we win!

Posted by: Rough Rider at March 14, 2016 04:44 PM (WmLD5)

933 Clearly not.

Posted by: S. Weasel at March 14, 2016 04:45 PM (kfmy1)

934 damn,busted. there goes my $85 /hr
out

Posted by: Rough Rider at March 14, 2016 04:46 PM (WmLD5)

935 I voted for Cruz in the primary. I understand partisanship but I can't understand being so into one candidate or another as to deny reality. So many words for naught.

Posted by: Crazy Jane at March 14, 2016 04:46 PM (z/B/W)

936
@ruff rider
duly noted,you can get back to "riding" your neighbors pet schnauser now

Posted by: flawless male logic at March 14, 2016 04:48 PM (lKyWE)

937 141
It does look like they are considering filing charges against Trump for
"inciting" a riot.... WTF? I don't particularly like trump but isn't
this a bit much?

Posted by: donna at March 14, 2016 04:19 PM (/dSsq)

I
can't stand Trump, but yeah..it's bullshit. The left gets away with
ridiculous levels of violence and property destruction and NOTHING is
ever even talked about as far as pressing charges.

Posted by: Hank Williams at March 14, 2016 04:49 PM (aRUb8)

938 Why
do you suppose that is? Not cracking down on these types of things has
one result..more of them and a ratcheting up of the behavior to test the
limits and set a new norm. WHY is this allowed? Who is calling the
shots on this? Someone uses the "wrong" word and they are threatened
with potential legal action for violation of "hate speech" norms.
Someone doesn't bake a cake or take a picture for a gay
activist/agitator and their lives and businesses are ruined.

Posted by: Hank Williams at March 14, 2016 04:49 PM (aRUb8)

939 hmmmm...

It appears that my ban may have been lifted.
If so, I want to make clear that it was not only fair that I was banned but that I would have no complaint if the ban had lasted many months or even if it had been a permanent ban.

Having lost someone very close to me recently, I had used the occasion as an incredibly stupid excuse to binge drink (which in no way helped my sorrow) and then to double down on stupidity I chose to comment on-line in that inebriated state. But there can be no excuse for making bad decisions and becoming an online dickwad.
So - YET ONCE AGAIN - I'm sorry and will endeavor to do better.

Being allowed to comment here has never been a right for anyone but ace. It's only ever been a wholly unearned privilege that ace has been generous enough to share with anonymous individuals - assuming they can conduct themselves appropriately enough in what and how they choose to say.

So, if my ban really as been lifted: thanks again, ace. I don't deserve it. If not, believe me when I say, I understand. And will keep reading and sometimes invisibly-commenting anyway.

(And yes, either way, I still owe Maetneloch an apology. - Which I will take the occasion to make the next time I'm online during one of his ONTs.)

Posted by: is this a test - no it's a Trump guy at March 14, 2016 04:51 PM (zhLKc)

940 OK, now I've seen the new, super-duper-definitive video.

Great Big Fat Nothingburger. Teapot Tempest. THAT is supposed to be heralding Fascism? Only to hysterics, and leftists.

Posted by: gp at March 14, 2016 04:51 PM (mk9aG)

941 The last 2 posts were my comment from another thread. They were supposed to be one post (with one more short paragraph..but were consistently rejected for "too much unbroken lines of text and looks like spam.

That makes no sense. I'll post the last paragraph of about 3 sentences and see if it gets rejected.

Posted by: Hank Williams at March 14, 2016 04:53 PM (aRUb8)

942 And no, the pastor doesn't call for killing gays, but the whole "carving happy faces into open, pus-y sores" is freaking weird, as is the previous end times transfer of wealth and anointing of kings business.

Posted by: Crazy Jane at March 14, 2016 04:53 PM (z/B/W)

943 So, if my ban really as been lifted: thanks again, ace. I don't deserve it. If not, believe me when I say, I understand. And will keep reading and sometimes invisibly-commenting anyway.
(And yes, either way, I still owe Maetneloch an apology. - Which I will take the occasion to make the next time I'm online during one of his ONTs.)
Posted by: is this a test - no it's a Trump guy at March 14, 2016 04:51 PM (zhLKc)

Still banned I think. But email me.

Posted by: Maetenloch at March 14, 2016 04:55 PM (pAlYe)

944
Rejected. 4 sentences that I split up into double spaced lines.
??

Posted by: Hank Williams at March 14, 2016 04:56 PM (aRUb8)

945
...an awkward by the way clarification: my emphasizing that I "yet once again" apologize is not because I've been invisible-comment apologizing a whole bunch and so now it's about time that the ban has finally been lifted. (Like I said, it wouldn't have surprised me if I'd never been allowed back. - Especially since I had drunkenly asked for exactly that. - Which I later regretted.)

Rather, it was to emphasize that it sucks that I have on several occasions given ace and company good reason to ban my comments. - And so they have.
But it's embarrassing to have to admit that. (Even anonymously under _Dave_ or Trump Super Fan or under any other pseudonym.)

Anyway, here's to redoubling efforts to do better - or otherwise be banned.

Posted by: is this a test - no it's a Trump guy at March 14, 2016 05:05 PM (zhLKc)

946 Re: comment 891:

"It's not white-knighting to say that a woman shouldn't be subject to battery."

Leaving aside your question-begging assertions that 1) Fields was battered, and 2) anyone who doesn't think Fields was battered is arguing that women should be subject to battery, I'm convinced that 90% of the hoopla about this little drama is driven by white-knightery.

Ask yourself this: If what happened to Fields had happened instead to a cigar-chomping, crusty old beat reporter named, I dunno, Ralph, would anyone on earth, including Ralph, even be talking about it? Would Ralph and his detractors and supporters be appearing on FOX and CNN for days afterwards?

I suggest not.

Posted by: Kutsen Burns at March 14, 2016 05:15 PM (4Tk3w)

947
@ comment #943,

Oh, Maet! You're here!

I apologize, sir.
Though I was very drunk, I remember that you were kind enough to warn me that I was getting out of line. I acknowledged the warning and promised to leave off for the night. - And I meant that when I wrote it. But being drunk, my impulse control was next to nil, and so my promise while sincere had an extremely short shelf-life. And that's no excuse, but that's precisely what happened.
By not heeding your fair and generous warning and by not keeping to my word that I was done commenting for the night, I disrespected you.
And for that I am sorry.

Would you please post your email address here in this comment thread. I'm sure it's listed somewhere on the webpage but I don't know where that is.
I will email you promptly.

Posted by: is this a test - no it's a Trump guy at March 14, 2016 05:16 PM (zhLKc)

948 Posted by: is this a test - no it's a Trump guy at March 14, 2016 05:16 PM (zhLKc)

My name at gmail.

Posted by: Maetenloch at March 14, 2016 05:18 PM (pAlYe)

949
got it. thanks.

let me log on and I'll send you an email

Posted by: is this a test - no it's a Trump guy at March 14, 2016 05:20 PM (zhLKc)

950 Uhhh, I'm not a Trump supporter. But I think the video DOES vindicate Trump.

And I believed Fields up to now.

Posted by: WannabeAnglican at March 14, 2016 05:22 PM (NWYnU)

951 The reporter looks as if she is mildly moved aside. To the point of moving an say step back. Normal crowd bump and grind.

Looking at that video you provided, there doesn't appear to be any violenc, intentional or otherwise. Certainly not to match the over-the-top rhetoric of the reporterette and others.

Posted by: Natrium at March 14, 2016 05:25 PM (SBfXp)

952 Ace remember that comment you made about people having an embarassment limit? This post, where you shamelessly lie for Fields, who was proven to be a fraud with the video you just posted is where I hit my embarassment limit. I'm one of the people (and I feel stupid and humiliated for having done so) who thought Fields was telling the truth despite her history and the suspicious lack of evidence (it turns out part of that is because Ben Terris, the sole eyewitness to the event ordered his photopgrpher to lie and claim he wasn't even there). She said, and had her surrogates say, that she was thrown down. She wasn't. Nor was she even jerked back. She was moved out of the way by some guy who wanted to get past her. I am genuinely embarassed I've been reading and promoting this web site for almost a decade and even forked over 5 bucks despite the fact that I'm a dirt poor student with no income. I'm not gonna stop reading because I'm a masochist but I am coming to terms with the fact that the high regard in which I held you is no longer justifiable to me.

Posted by: Johnny at March 14, 2016 05:26 PM (MZKpF)

953 Just sent you an email, Maet.

Please post here if you didn't get it.

Posted by: is this a test - no it's a Trump guy at March 14, 2016 05:28 PM (zhLKc)

954 One thing about the bruises that puzzles me: she's wearing a suit jacket. How hard would someone have to press on her forearm to cause bruises in that situation?
That would have to be a serious yank,but I don't think we see that in the video.

Posted by: Sal at March 14, 2016 05:33 PM (MRX6w)

955 Where is the /sarc tag.

This post is bullshit.

Posted by: exsanguine at March 14, 2016 05:46 PM (dZhSr)

956 Posted by: Sal at March 14, 2016 05:33 PM (MRX6w)

She could bruise easily. Or she had one of her co-conspirators do it. We already know some level of fraud was involved because Jabin Botsford (WaPo photographer) first claimed he wasn't at the event, then when shown that he took a picture right before the incident changed his story and admitted he just didn't hear or see any assault (presumably telling the truth could get him in trouble with te WaPo).

Posted by: Johnny at March 14, 2016 05:49 PM (MZKpF)

957 Andrew Breitbart was right, the value in this site was the commenters. Just like the value in America was the Americans. Both appear hellbent on downgrading to a more tractable but less competent population.

Posted by: MC DuQuesne at March 14, 2016 05:52 PM (mvUP9)

958 I watched all of the clips. The grab came from the grassy knoll.

Posted by: Buffalbob at March 14, 2016 05:59 PM (8nL8o)

959 You are all invited to the premiere of my new movie "Dreams of Fields".

Posted by: Oliver Stone at March 14, 2016 06:09 PM (gjyrg)

960
- Thank you, Maet. I will do better.

Posted by: is this a test - no it's a Trump guy at March 14, 2016 06:09 PM (zhLKc)

961 Is there a single Trumpster out there who wasn't jackin' it in joy when assault charges were filed against Melissa Click? Because she just lightly pushed a kid's camera.

Landowski randomly grabbed and yanked a woman hard enough to leave bruises. But that's not assault and the woman is a lying whore because TRUMP2016!!!!!!!

So is that kind of minor assault a yuuuuge deal (Click) or absolutely nothing (Landowski). Because right now y'all seem like a bunch of hypocrites.

Posted by: JT at March 14, 2016 06:09 PM (CZaQB)

962 FOX News Special Report (Howie Kurtz): Video shows that Lewandowski "barely brushed her."

Posted by: Steven at March 14, 2016 06:33 PM (gcO0q)

963 At this point, Trump could lose with 35% of the vote and his supporters would still show up to his inauguration in January.

Posted by: TallDave at March 14, 2016 06:35 PM (74ZYB)

964 Posted by: Kutsen Burns at March 14, 2016 05:15 PM (4Tk3w)

No, it wouldn't matter if Fields was Hulk Hogan. Trump suggested his supporters engage in violent responses multiple times, and offered to pay the legal bills of one who took him up on it. That's a pattern.

Violence might fly in the Democratic primary, but this is the Grand Old Party, and Trump was already radioactive with independents.

It's getting harder and harder to support Trump in the general.

Posted by: TallDave at March 14, 2016 06:40 PM (74ZYB)

965 BTW sad to see Breitbart and Drudge either falling for the con or following the ratings. The split between them and outfits like NR or RedState has been stark.

Sarah Palin, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Ann Coulter... writing a lot of people off after this cycle.

Posted by: TallDave at March 14, 2016 06:44 PM (74ZYB)

966
JT @ #609,

There is a categorical difference between what Melissa Click did and what Corey Lewandowski did.

Click got in the kid's face and told him he was obligated to leave the public area that he was reporting on. He was not under any such obligation, and he made it clear that he had a right to be there. That's when she attempted to physically remove him. She called for muscle. Threatening to use unwarranted physical force on someone is also considered a form of assault in criminal law.

Lewandowski was trying to help his candidate, Trump, leave a PRIVATE venue that Trump had rented. Fields had no right to persist on obtaining an unwelcome interview with Trump as he was EXITING a venue that Trump had rented.
Fields, like everyone else was there with Trump's PERMISSION at his event - that he was in the process of leaving.
Moreover, there was no confrontation between Lewandowski and Fields. No words are exchanged. It doesn't even appear that they ever look directly at each other.
Lewandowski is merely passing by her to catch up with his candidate, Trump, as they attempt to exit through a throng of people. It appears he probably touched her arm as he passed by her - and that's why she slows down and gives up the chase.
She is obviously NOT being assaulted. No threat was hurled. There is not even a brief confrontation between the two. She is obviously not in pain.

Rather, the video footage shows that Michelle Field's claim that she was grabbed an pulled so hard that she was almost thrown to the ground IS A COMPLETE AND ABJECT LIE.

Now, she's been caught in that lie. And that's the plain truth of the matter.

Posted by: is this a test - no it's a Trump guy at March 14, 2016 06:56 PM (zhLKc)

967 It is amazing to see the mask come off of all these so called conservatives and under that mask is the exact same tactics and morality as the left.

Posted by: Sho Nuff at March 14, 2016 06:59 PM (CWImE)

968 Was she holding her arm after the incident? Something that painful, you would think she would acknowledge it in some way. Saying "ow". Looking at the wound. At the very least holding her arm.

Posted by: lifeisdeath at March 14, 2016 07:00 PM (9x5bk)

969 correction: JT @ #961

Posted by: is this a test - no it's a Trump guy at March 14, 2016 07:02 PM (zhLKc)

970 And the GOPe and it's allies in the media and the blogosphere have dragged Trump over the coals for this? Amazing. I am ALL IN on Trump making it easier for a public figure to sue the asses off media and bloggers ... ALL IN because it has been an OBVIOUS attempt destroy his election chances based on trumped up lies.

Posted by: doug at March 14, 2016 07:09 PM (BHffB)

971 BTW sad to see Breitbart and Drudge either falling for the con or following the ratings. The split between them and outfits like NR or RedState has been stark.

Sarah Palin, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Ann Coulter... writing a lot of people off after this cycle.
---------------------------------------
Glad there are people like Michelle Malkin exposing Drudge for his hypocrisy.
So sad to see some of my favorite sites become sites that I can barely read anymore because they disgust me.
Cruz is one of our true Conservatives that we have fighting for us and the way Drudge has treated him is a disgrace.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 14, 2016 07:15 PM (7GQM/)

972 Melissa Click was charged under http://www.moga.mo.gov/mostatutes/stathtml/56500000701.HTML . I always assumed she was charged for violating subdivision 5, due to her pushing the kid's camera (which would be an actual assault). If it was actually under subdivision 3 then that would be a grotesque, bullshit political abuse of justice and your support for it would be proving my point perfectly.

Yes, there is a categorical difference. You like Trump's staff, you don't like Click, so one stupid bullshit misdemeanor assault is cool and the other is the worst thing ever. Unless you are correct about Click's assault charge, in which case you're super excited about somebody being charged for a vague threat of maybe committing misdemeanor assault while excusing somebody who actually committed misdemeanor assault.

No, Landowski was caught in a lie. He said he never touched her. HE LIED.

Fields claimed she was grabbed (true), pulled downwards (also true) so hard that she stumbled and almost lost her balance (also true--you can see her wobbling to correct her balance). So Landowski straight up lied, Fields didn't, but TRUMP2016!!!!! so whatever.

Posted by: JT at March 14, 2016 07:22 PM (CZaQB)

973 "I didn't join the conservative movement to become a fascist." -Ace

How about this, then? Fuck you. Join that.

And since Cruz/Rubio people like to issue threats about not voting, here's one for you:

Unless Ted Cruz "repudiates" cocksuckers like you, who very strongly imply Trump supporters have joined a Fascist Movement, for voting for Trump in the Primary, I'm not voting for him in the General Election.

See, we can do it too. And I have my "principles" too, one of which is to not support people/things that obviously hate me.
Rubio I was never voting for anyway, I won't bullshit the Rubio people on that. No more neocons. But Cruz I would even have sent money to.

Interestingly for history buffs, getting accused of being a fascist by Gore Vidal is what set WF Buckley off on TV that time.

Speaking of which, assuming Cruz somehow becomes the nominee, how is he going to lawyer his way out of it when he's asked, in the debate with Hillary, by Candy Crowley "But Senator Cruz, how can you deny that the Republican Party is a den of Fascism and Racism, when even your own ardent supporters, like Ace of Spades, admitted over 1/3 of the Party were following a fascist?"

Obviously, she'll/they'll use someone more famous than you, Ace, since you're basically a fucking nobody, but you get my point.

PS- You have admitted before to lying in posts to further your political ends (e.g., lying to benefit GOPe politicians because the "War on Terror was too important"). Now you're lying about Trump, because you think Cruz can save the Country, and Trump might hurt it.

I do not think these lies will work out well for you.. Either in the sense of Cruz getting the Nom, or of you not having to get a day job.

Posted by: trickamsterdam at March 14, 2016 07:27 PM (QHLJF)

974 Much ado about nothing. You would have called this a non-story in usually...just one more thing to get outraged about.

"But he LIED!" Please, name anyone in politics that hasn't.

Posted by: Michael_me at March 14, 2016 07:34 PM (2QOc1)

975 BTW sad to see Breitbart and Drudge either falling for the con or following the ratings. The split between them and outfits like NR or RedState has been stark.

Sarah Palin, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Ann Coulter... writing a lot of people off after this cycle.

I actually now hate all four (there are individual writers I like at NR); This is pretty much the only blog which I've liked better since Trump entered the race, the others have either lost themselves to a cult of personality or were too hostile to Trump before he fully revealed what he is. Ace's attitude and stance has pretty much reflected my own viewpoint on the matter.

Posted by: lowtech redneck at March 14, 2016 07:37 PM (KF8B+)

976 "Interestingly for history buffs, getting accused of being a fascist by Gore Vidal is what set WF Buckley off on TV that time.

Posted by: trickamsterdam at March 14, 2016 07:27 PM (QHLJF)"

No, he called him a "crypto-Nazi," not a fascist. It was a particularly loathsome insult since Buckley served in WW2 fighting actual Nazis,

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 14, 2016 07:51 PM (4/i9Y)

977 Women are as good as men, aren't they?

For eff's sake, I heard that enough times at West Point from 1976-1980.

If it had been a man in that video, would you have given a fliegen verfluchte about it?

(And I call Trump the Trumpocalypse)

Posted by: Richard Cranium at March 14, 2016 07:56 PM (ATlQg)

978 Ace, you need to post the video at regular speed. He clearly had enough torque to bruise her as you see he yanked her back.

https://twitter.com/CalebHowe/status/709444628798279680

Posted by: Artemis at March 14, 2016 07:56 PM (GzxMX)

979 61
Trumpkins, its not the actual act that gets you, its the cover up.

If its not a big deal, then apologizing is not a big deal.

---

There was no cover up, since it was "no big deal." If it's no big deal, then no apology necessary. The video shows nothing out of the ordinary with a crowd of people and a reporter trying to get close to a candidate as he is leaving the arena. It wasn't question and answer time.

If the reporter had been a man, no issue. If the gentle flower can't handle something like this, maybe she should get another job. Reporters should report, not make themselves the story.

I'm taking a reverse tip from the anti-Trump crowd: If Trump doesn't get the nomination, I'm voting Hilary. Before BS outrage over this nothing burger I would've pulled the lever for Cruz, but no more.

Posted by: jbarntt at March 14, 2016 08:26 PM (hZo0w)

980 So what?

Posted by: Richard Cranium at March 14, 2016 08:26 PM (ATlQg)

981 So what?

Posted by: Clain at March 14, 2016 08:28 PM (HopS4)

982 The poor girl is lucky to be alive. If you look closely you can see Trump jump back and punch her three times really quick too. Left jab, a right, then a left hook to the midsection, right Ace?

Posted by: Ironwood at March 14, 2016 08:42 PM (WLOZI)

983 I'm late in seeing this but I don't care. Sober up, Ace. You are writing utter crap.

Posted by: Gunga Done at March 14, 2016 08:46 PM (pnRrB)

984 Sometimes weak men do not have the character to admit they were wrong, often because they have become too invested psychologically and emotionally to exercise their will to see the truth.

Posted by: Tonawanda at March 14, 2016 08:54 PM (fo74A)

985 Her expression never shows any pain. If she was injured, you would think there would be some facial reaction.

Posted by: RIK at March 14, 2016 08:55 PM (SdaSa)

986 The video proves the opposite. There was no violence in this movement at all.

Posted by: RaynMan at March 14, 2016 09:02 PM (zI0aN)

987

JT and others,

Incidentally, I do not believe that Lewandowski lied.
I believe there's no reason he'd remember touching Field's as he made his way through a tightly packed throng of people desperately vying for the attention of the candidate, Trump, he's supposed to be helping leave the venue.

Why would he remember that nothing-burger moment?
Have you ever been to a packed concert? Or a subway station? Or any number of other plausibly crowded places?
Do you remember every jostle, nudge, or bump you experienced when you were there? - Please.

When Lewandowski tweeted something to the effect of "I never touched you", that was in direct response to Field's going on TV and making the LYING claim that he had grabbed her and nearly thrown her to the ground.
There is no way he could have forgotten had he done something obnoxious like that. And then his claim of never having touched her would indeed be a lie.

If instead Fields had taken to the TV airwaves and said that Lewandowski had "touched" her arm in the middle of crowd reporters and fans following Trump has he was leaving the building, it never would have caught Lewandowski's attention. Indeed it never would have caught ANYONE'S attention.
No one would have been slightly interested in the nothing-burger moment it has now been revealed to be.
When you publicly accuse someone of violently grabbing you and nearly throwing you to the ground (when in fact they did not), I have no problem with that someone coming out and responding with "Hey, I don't even know you. I never touched you."
When it later turns out that all he did was INCIDENTALLY touch you as he was passing by you to catch up with the candidate he is supposed to be helping to protect and exit the venue, that doesn't make him a liar.
Again, there is no reason anyone would remember that nothing-burger moment.

Lewandowski was responding to the now UTTERLY EXPOSED LIE made by Michelle Fields that he had attacked her. - That he violently grabbed her arm and nearly thrown her to the ground.

But you Trump Haters aren't about to believe your lying eyes, are you?
Oh no. You desperately need to concoct the fantasy that Trump is a thug who employs thugs.

Fine. Have at your fantasies. But don't expect us to participate in them.

Based on ace's initial description of the new footage, I was prepared to condemn Lewandowski and join in the call for Trump to fire him.
Then I clicked on "continue reading" and clicked on the video and saw the new footage. And it was plain as day that Michelle Field's was LYING about having nearly been thrown to the ground. Which in turn makes it plain that Lewandowski was responding to this obvious LIE made up by someone he doesn't even know - and was not responding to an incidental touch that does remotely resemble the BLATANT LIE repeatedly told on him on television.

Why don't you try some self intellectual honesty and ask yourself how you'd feel if a friend of yours was in Lewandowski's place? I wonder if you'd blame your friend for responding to the obvious lie that he had violently grabbed someone so hard that he had nearly thrown them to the ground by saying "I don't know her. I never touched her"?

If you say you would, then either you're not being honest with yourself, or you're not much of a friend.

Posted by: is this a test - no it's a Trump guy at March 14, 2016 09:06 PM (zhLKc)

988 "Is there a single Trumpster out there who wasn't jackin' it in joy when
assault charges were filed against Melissa Click? Because she just
lightly pushed a kid's camera."

Yes. Me.

Puffed up self-righteous TruCons like this will get us hammered in the general. 10 minutes of dudes like this nerd-raging about the Constitution and Christian values (while supporting a well-lawyered sneak with Glenn Beck for a Rasputin who advocates silencing dissenters because "racist") should be all the negative ad fodder Granny Capone needs to win.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 14, 2016 09:15 PM (fxnhe)

989 Typo Correction of my comment #987:

Lewandowski "...was not responding to an incidental touch that does _NOT_ remotely resemble the BLATANT LIE repeatedly told on him on television."

Posted by: is this a test - no it's a Trump guy at March 14, 2016 09:18 PM (zhLKc)

990 I didn't see a yank. (Technically I didn't even see physical contact; I had to infer it - although based on what I know of physics and of the female skeletal system, I'll concede that's a safe inference.)

The most I can infer is that a woman rushed toward Trump and someone blocked the woman somewhere around the elbow. The woman then stopped, with an "aback" expression on her face. The crowd then moved on, oblivious that anything untoward happened.

This is not an assault. This is, at most, what any bouncer does at the mosh pit. Journalists rushing for unscheduled interviews are, exactly, a mosh pit; they have ceased to be journalists, and are now paparazzi.

Trump needs to apologise for precisely nothing.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 14, 2016 09:21 PM (6FqZa)

991 The anti-trumps have lost their minds. I will never forgive old friends like Ace, the Powerline crew for going full Glenn Beck. I will never forgive Cruz for blaming Trump for organized leftist violence. I swore a holy oath I'd never vote for Bush or Little Marco, now I will add Cruz to that mix. All you 'purists' who say Trump is a Hitler and make common cause with Marxist scum while praising the delusions of Cruz who will never win the general election and WHO IS RUNNING TO THE RIGHT OF TRUMP can go pound sand for the rest of your worthless lives. I will give up friends over this happily.

Posted by: tryptic at March 14, 2016 09:23 PM (gW/3H)

992

boulder terlit hobo @ comment # 990,

Mega Dittos!
Stated far more succinctly and more effectively than anything I've posted.

So... yeah, what he said!

Posted by: is this a test - no it's a Trump guy at March 14, 2016 09:25 PM (zhLKc)

993 I still find it pretty ironic that a Breitbart reporter would rely on the word of a WaPo reporter. That's kinda end of times stuff

Posted by: RIK at March 14, 2016 09:28 PM (SdaSa)

994 "Ace has never banned anyone for holding a different viewpoint... he does ban people for being asses repeatedly and aggressively."

I didn't say Ace did. I said Dagny and others want that safe space - one from which they can lob "fascist" allegations without being called out for it.

AKA Hot Air.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at March 14, 2016 09:28 PM (fxnhe)

995 "978
Ace, you need to post the video at regular speed. He clearly had enough torque to bruise her as you see he yanked her back.

https://twitter.com/CalebHowe/status/709444628798279680

Posted by: Artemis at March 14, 2016 07:56 PM (GzxMX)"
Bullshit, it just shows that nothing happened faster.
Pathetic how you dupes are grasping at straws to maintain any shred of credibility after believing this cheap attention whore stunt.

Posted by: muthafucka at March 14, 2016 09:29 PM (L6eip)

996 There was no violence in this movement at all.

Posted by: RaynMan at March 14, 2016 09:02 PM (zI0aN)

You don't have to move to be violent. A simple look..or thinking about looking, can be a violent act, if the eyes belong to a man, or boy. Even an infant male already has the "woman hate eye", so I include them also. Those look can be very destructive and hurtful. Abuse, straight up.

Posted by: Feminist Zombie at March 14, 2016 09:30 PM (aRUb8)

997
tryptic @ comment # 991,

I can't share that sentiment. While I strongly disagree with ace and others here at Ace of Spades about Trump and about Michelle Field's hoax specifically, I can EASILY get over the disagreement and not hold it against them. (I don't think they need forgiveness because just holding fast to a grossly distorted viewpoint is not in itself a wrongdoing.)

And that's not just because they have forgiven me for the multiple times I have displayed sad jack-assery and inappropriately insulted fellow-commenters here in their comment threads (regardless of who started it).

I can look past this gross misjudgment on their part because in the fervor of a heated political season, viewpoints can get distorted.
Hell, the first time I watched the new video footage, I was CERTAIN that if Michelle Fields had been touched you wouldn't know it based on the direction her body was moving. Then I watched it again and saw that her body clearly had changed speed and direction in perfect timing with the reaching arm motion of Corey Lewandowski.

- The heat of the topic had caused me to not clearly see all the pertinent details of what actually happened. I think it's pretty clear that Lewandowski touched her even though we can't see the contact.

Ace and others are likely to stick with this silly claim that Lewandowski behaved like a thug (even the video footage utterly contradicts that) and then liked about it.
It's a heated time in our politics. And things are going to get said that rub us and others the wrong way. The key is not to take them personally and so forswear each other over them.
In fact, THAT WILL BE VITAL to Trump winning in November.
He's said a lot of things that have rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. But we're going to have to unite as a party if we're going to keep Hillary (or whoever replaces her) out of the White House.

I encourage everyone who disagrees with ace on this and other similar Trump issues not to write him off or be forever disappointed in him over it.

I can tell you first hand (and from very recent experience) that ace and other hosts here at Ace of Spades are very generous in spirit. I know ace uses a deliciously acerbic tongue to denigrate enemies of conservatism and public assholes in general. But he doesn't hold a grudge.
And there's no reason to hold a grudge against him over a disagreement - even a very important one.

This particular issue will pass and there will be plenty of issue and ideology simpatico in the future.
You'll see.

Posted by: is this a test - no it's a Trump guy at March 14, 2016 09:49 PM (zhLKc)

998 Well, here we are, all tearing and scratching at one another instead of going after the people who are really going to screw us up: Hillary and Bernie. For this, they call us the stupid party.

Posted by: Anonymous-9 at March 14, 2016 09:55 PM (gDfQc)

999 Meanwhile, Trump and Lowandowski's utter refusal to simply say "I saw someone coming quickly, I acted too hastily and grabbed her, I apologize" has now completely melted down Trump's only media ally, Breitbart.

Trump would rather burn down an ally than have his campaign manager confess to have briefly, wrongly grabbed a girl trying to ask Trump a question.

So, yeah, would-be Trump allies like the GOP, conservative movement, or immigration-restrictionist movement: I'd be super-eager to sign up to march under Trump's banner. I'm sure it will all turn out well for you. He'll definitely have your back when you need him too.
--Ace
This is satire, right? Are you seriously saying this guy grabbed and yanked this girl? I am just not seeing it AT ALL.

Posted by: bonnie blue at March 14, 2016 09:56 PM (ZXK8H)

1000 I am female. I have a degree in television. Back in the 80s I was shoved, pushed, and scratched in scrums to get stories. THAT'S JOURNALISM, folks. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. In today's world, young people are as tough as fresh baked marshmallows. I have no doubt Fields got yanked. It's called the fog of pursuing a great story. Get used to it. Or wear a padded suit. Or get out.

Posted by: Anonymous-9 at March 14, 2016 10:02 PM (gDfQc)

1001 The saddest part of all of this is how weird Ace is about this topic.

Posted by: Dogstar at March 14, 2016 10:19 PM (pIeX/)

1002 The video shows nothing at all. You can't see below shoulder level;, and her face does not register anything like pain or surprise. There is nothing there one way or the other, it neither proves nor disproves anything. That's what i saw.

Posted by: mhj at March 14, 2016 11:00 PM (uKxRL)

1003 Seems like with the "old Ace", if he showed a video, it would actually prove what he was saying it proved. Maybe this is a Dread Pirate Roberts situation? I guess we'll stay tuned...

My own interpretation is that Fields (who I generally like) is a bit of a princess who got handled in a push-and-shove crowd in a way that was less than worshipful, and when some leftist propagandist asked if he could use her to make a big deal out of her nothingburger she said "Hell, yeah" instead of using her common sense and telling him to go f himself.

Basically, she made herself a turncoat without even realizing it through her own narcissism and elitism, which is probably why the Trump camp is unsympathetic (the turncoat part). Maybe she can go sit next to S. E. Cupp on MSNBC after this.

Posted by: Optimizer at March 14, 2016 11:28 PM (/q6+P)

1004 Posted by: Optimizer at March 14, 2016 11:28 PM
~~~~~~

This^ Now those that bought her spiel and that of a WaPo hack (for heaven's sake) are making this out to be "yanking" "jerking" "almost throwing her"

Dishonest pussies, the lot of them. I told ppl they'd be pwned by this. Pride instead makes them describe a NY Subway second as "Holocaust Rape-Like"

Sheesh.

I'm taking a break as the anti-Trump fever is making so many on the right act (and lie) like the shirtlifting Julie boys on the Left. ~shaking head~

Posted by: oddnot not liking these times at March 14, 2016 11:36 PM (g1MTt)

1005 Crazy. Pure crazy. #NeverTrumpers are just revealing their true colors. It turns out that "conservative" media, when push comes to shove, is not all that conservative.

It's just elitist bullshit. A vulgarian juggernaut is beating the shit out of one "conservative" icon after another and is dragging all of the sophists into the sunlight. This is actually a good thing, but you wouldn't know it around here.

Who knew that Conservatism--as we know it--was all just part of one big fucking con to preserve the power of a menacing oligarchy.

People giving their lives to contribute to that oppressive charade will find that a mercenary's reward won't be worth it. In Blood Meridian, Judge Holden says that everything in this world is for sale. Maybe not with money only. Reputation and the respect of peers is a powerful draw too. Deep down, I suspect that but for divine intervention, Judge Holden merely describes the way of the world.

But it is sad to see it repeatedly confirmed.

Posted by: Turkey OTooley at March 14, 2016 11:44 PM (kwHPo)

1006 I didn't realize Ace was a cuckservative.

Posted by: John Graham at March 14, 2016 11:56 PM (hvV01)

1007 Look, hvV01; "cuckservative" won't get you anywhere. It's a term of abuse; it's troll shit. It'll just get ace's back up. It's getting MY back up and my position is on the side of the bouncer here.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 15, 2016 12:03 AM (6FqZa)

1008 And I'm watching this video on full speed and that's exactly what I see - a gentle bounce of a pushy paparazza.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 15, 2016 12:04 AM (6FqZa)

1009 Well, I'd say Trumps people are owed an apology. This reporter quite clearly lied about the severity and circumstances of the contact, she was not yanked anywhere, her ARM was pulled back to make way for Corey to get past her. She was not nearly thrown to the ground. She lied to make a nothing event into an anti-Trump story.

And now that I've had to spend more time reading about this bullshit and now that the video clearly shows she is the one telling tales, it makes me wonder about the rest of her story too. Those bruises look awfully like the finger pattern of a person grabbing their own arm and not at all like the pattern you'd expect from someone else grabbing you. How exactly did Corey exert so much force on the OUTSIDE of her arm when his fingers would have been on the inside of her arm to grip it firmly.

This whole thing stinks to high heaven. It smells like a reporter used a nothing event to create and anti-Trump story with the possibility of self-inflicting a little "evidence" to goose things along. She lied about what happened, I see no reason to take her word for it about anything else now.

Posted by: Mr Black at March 15, 2016 01:56 AM (fr6nX)

1010 I'm not a Trump supporter, but having now seen the multiple camera angles and stills, there is little doubt that there was no assault as she asserted.

The claim that she was waiting for an apology is equally false as she gave the execrable WaPo reporter permission to use her quote within seconds of the incident; her wackjob boyfriend was making accusations on social media shortly after.

If you couple her previous history with false claims about being beaten by cops and equally spurious claims against Allen West, what you have here is a fabulist that more interested in being the news than covering the news. And that is wrong whether it is a liberal or 'conservative' 'reporter'.

That is why, contrary to what others have said, if Breitbart were still alive, both her and Shapiro would have had been on the street pronto with Andrew's bootprints implanted on their posteriors.

Posted by: NotaTrumpist at March 15, 2016 04:20 AM (4X86K)

1011 And I'm watching this video on full speed and that's exactly what I see - a gentle bounce of a pushy paparazza.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 15, 2016 12:04 AM (6FqZa)

Yeah, full speed doesn't make it look worse. Why ace is doubling down on this I don't know. Nothing even close to serious happened her. She didn't talk to anyone privately and ace hasn't shown that she did. It's stupid.

Posted by: WOPR at March 15, 2016 06:00 AM (LTDSy)

1012 Lame! What a damn disappointment you are ACE and SHAPIRO. Un favoriting your stupid site. Geezuz there is nothing sacred in this world.

Posted by: Kyle P at March 15, 2016 10:00 AM (JGmJY)

1013 Really Ace? You're making a story out of this?

Did Andrew Sullivan take over AoS?

Posted by: JoeNYC at March 15, 2016 10:27 AM (MCCiz)

1014 Seriously lets blow this up and call in forensics. A brown bruise shown right after an assault? That's seven to ten days old. It would be bright red, purple and blue and other signs of injury if as violent as she says.

People lie ACE. You fall for the mattress girl lies too? She has a mattress on her head and she's a girl, a victim. She can't be lying no matter if there is a video.

I can't see any evidence of malice or egregious force. SHE'S BUMPED AT BEST. Feel free to point out again how she was body slammed.

Why would you post a video that contradicts what you say?

Posted by: jeremiah at March 15, 2016 12:21 PM (ikPVf)

1015 If Ace searches my post history he will see I am clearly a full on Cruz supporter.

This video doesn't show what Ace says it does.

Her facial expression is totally neutral throughout, her mouth doesn't even open.

This story is a fraud, Ace.

Posted by: Village Idiot at March 15, 2016 01:04 PM (bf86X)

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