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Claim: Fox News Is Done With "The Rubio Thing"
DOJ GRANS IMMUNITY TO HILLARY'S IT GUY
I'll believe it when I don't see it, but it's too delicious not to slap a headline on and call it a post.
In his role as the donor class's darling, Marco Rubio has enjoyed support from the Republicans' media arm, Fox News. Throughout the primary, Fox provided Rubio with friendly interviews and key bookings, including the first prime-time response to Barack Obama's Oval Office address on ISIS. Many of the network's top pundits, including Stephen Hayes and Charles Krauthammer, have been enthusiastic boosters. Bill Sammon, Fox's Washington managing editor, is the father of Rubio's communications director, Brooke Sammon. But this alliance now seems to be over. According to three Fox sources, Fox chief Roger Ailes has told people he's lost confidence in Rubio's ability to win. "We're finished with Rubio," Ailes recently told a Fox host. "We can't do the Rubio thing anymore."I have no idea if any of that is true. Pretty much everything is lies now. Used to be it was only 30% lies. Now it's like 85% lies. But, whatever, sounds like something I should Hit My Great Big Blog Retweet Button on. I guess I'm intrigued enough by this Thousand Layer Cake of Wonderfulness that I might just watch Megyn "Rubes4Ever" Kelly tonight to see if she can force herself to utter the words "Ted Cruz" outside of the context of weighing how Cruz might complicate Rubio's bid for the presidency. Thanks to New Guy. Unrelated but Big: The DOJ grants immunity to Hillary's server guy, which therefore strips him of the right to plead the Fifth when questioned about potentially criminal acts. Now, the DOJ can be playing games here, obviously. But this is how you get people to flip on the higher-ups in a criminal enterprise -- you give immunity to the guy selling crack on the corner to get testimony about his supplier.
Thanks to @comradearthur, JJ Sefton.
The Justice Department has granted immunity to the former State Department staffer who worked on Hillary Rodham Clinton’s private email server, a sign the FBI investigation into possible criminal wrongdoing is progressing. A senior U.S. law enforcement official said the FBI had secured the cooperation of Bryan Pagliano who worked on Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign before setting up the server in her New York home in 2009.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 02, 2016 08:41 PM (WTSFk)
Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 02, 2016 08:41 PM (U6f54)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at March 02, 2016 08:42 PM (+eR2D)
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 08:42 PM (Vy81P)
Posted by: Spartan Fan at March 02, 2016 08:42 PM (eZG4P)
So, no qualms about admitting it was a thing they were doing?
Interesting.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 02, 2016 08:42 PM (1xUj/)
*hits F5*
I have no idea *hits F5* what you could possibly *hits F5* mean, ace.
*hits F5*
Posted by: alexthechick - Love and despair bitches at March 02, 2016 08:42 PM (IrByp)
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 08:42 PM (Vy81P)
Posted by: John Morris at March 02, 2016 08:42 PM (sCRhB)
I thought you had given up Twitter!
Maybe they have a patch for that.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 02, 2016 08:42 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: rebbl at March 02, 2016 08:43 PM (ZzuqH)
Posted by: Splunge at March 02, 2016 08:43 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 08:44 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Walter Crushchurch at March 02, 2016 08:44 PM (2RnOO)
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 08:45 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Meremortal at March 02, 2016 08:45 PM (3myMJ)
....That the people who are paid for their opinions are actually taking orders "from the top"?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 08:45 PM (AkOaV)
I often visualize the Horde as a bunch of experimental rats that have F5 wired to the dopamine part of the brain, or the part that makes the sex juice, and we just keep hitting...
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 02, 2016 08:45 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 08:46 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: John Morris at March 02, 2016 08:46 PM (sCRhB)
How dare they abandon their most glorious Field Marshall.
Posted by: Dondi Amin, Conqueror of the Trump Empire in Minnesota in General and Minnesota in Particular at March 02, 2016 08:46 PM (SiyyF)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 08:46 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Meremortal at March 02, 2016 08:45 PM (3myMJ)
aYup.
Posted by: rebbl at March 02, 2016 08:46 PM (ZzuqH)
I hope when they ask Cruz on, Cruz makes Shep dress up like the Gimp from Pulp Fiction first.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 02, 2016 08:47 PM (6FqZa)
/yes they are the stupid party establishment
Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at March 02, 2016 08:47 PM (r6ujM)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 02, 2016 08:45 PM (1xUj/)
I tell people about the lube and I tell them. . . .
Posted by: alexthechick - Love and despair bitches at March 02, 2016 08:47 PM (IrByp)
Posted by: alexthechick - Love and despair bitches at March 02, 2016 08:47 PM (IrByp)
Ew.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 08:47 PM (AkOaV)
Me neither.
Oh, also, TRACY FUCKING FLICK!!!
Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 02, 2016 08:47 PM (1zS3A)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 08:48 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 08:48 PM (zOTsN)
Now, to the issue at hand, WTF is a "news" organization doing humping for any individual candidate?!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2016 08:48 PM (8PbKi)
Posted by: Scotch Cobbler at March 02, 2016 08:48 PM (g9d8D)
Hot News.
DOJ grants immunity to Hillary's server guy.
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/
status/705204754864054273
Posted by: ArthurK at March 02, 2016 08:48 PM (h53OH)
Posted by: Zombie Jay Sebring at March 02, 2016 08:48 PM (FXW24)
Posted by: DaveA at March 02, 2016 08:48 PM (DL2i+)
***
Did you watch her townhall last week? She was very receptive to Cruz.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2016 08:49 PM (8PbKi)
Posted by: 8starsnorth at March 02, 2016 08:49 PM (ppmNn)
Posted by: logprof at March 02, 2016 08:49 PM (ow8Ca)
/yes they are the stupid party establishment
Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston
Fat, smug, and rested, amigos~!
Posted by: Mike Huckabee at March 02, 2016 08:49 PM (A/3fN)
I think they're realizing that they're doing a lot of things that leave them sitting there, exposed. Every crappy debate, every spin and lie they have to push, sours them with their audience.
I think they're thinking that they've damaged the brand this election season.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 02, 2016 08:49 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: logprof at March 02, 2016 08:50 PM (ow8Ca)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 02, 2016 08:50 PM (zLP1L)
DOJ grants immunity to Hillary's server guy.
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/
status/705204754864054273
Posted by: ArthurK at March 02, 2016 08:48 PM (h53OH)
WHAHWHAHAHWWWHHHAAAA
what kind of immunity?
the tits are not calm the tits are not calm
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 08:50 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 08:50 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: John Morris at March 02, 2016 08:50 PM (sCRhB)
DOJ GRANTS IMMUNITY TO STATE DEPT. EMPLOYEE WHO SET UP CLINTON'S SERVER
***
But, of course.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2016 08:50 PM (8PbKi)
... but really, second look at a spot in my bunker ?
Posted by: Irony at March 02, 2016 08:50 PM (qmMG2)
"My Fuhrer... Fox..."
"Fox is pulling their support. They say they're done with the 'Rubio thing'".
*Shaky glasses remove*
"These people will stay. Frum, Rove, Ryan and Graham."
*shuffle out*
*door closes*
Posted by: Vanya Secundus, Hitler Parodies at March 02, 2016 08:51 PM (v+nYp)
what kind of immunity
this is flaming skull material
this is yyuuugggeeee
DOJ
guess Obama is going to do what Bernie couldn't
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 08:51 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: TedCruzLegThrill at March 02, 2016 08:51 PM (VekM5)
Yeah . Those crazy fkrs braved the elements to punch a chad for Rubio.
HAHAHAHA !
Hey Rove ! Architect a bag of dicks you schlumpy scrote!
Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 08:52 PM (UmCLB)
DOJ GRANTS IMMUNITY TO STATE DEPT. EMPLOYEE WHO SET UP CLINTON'S SERVER
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 02, 2016 08:50 PM (zLP1L)
Has he been invited to take a walk in the park yet?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. SSDD at March 02, 2016 08:52 PM (WVsWD)
he can't plead the fifth now -- he is immunized from any criminal act he committed. Therefore, his answers do not subject him to criminal penalty.
UNLESS he perjures himself, obviously.
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 08:52 PM (dciA+)
Is that too damned much to ask? I mean, I didn't refuse to rescue an ambassador from Benghazi or anything.
*types*
*deletes*
*smiles at NSA*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 08:52 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Hillary! at March 02, 2016 08:53 PM (ow8Ca)
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 08:53 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 02, 2016 08:53 PM (MNgU2)
Who does the server guy fear more, the Federal Government, or the Clinton Crime Family?
Posted by: Walter Crushchurch at March 02, 2016 08:53 PM (2RnOO)
you guys keep mixing frum into this mix. Frum is strongly in favor of controlliing immigration AND ALSO is annoyed by the Rubio boosterism, and people's refusal to even give a look to Cruz.
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 08:53 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Bill from NSA (Bob's on break) at March 02, 2016 08:54 PM (1xUj/)
"
That's easy. Wear a burhka and carry a koran. They won't bother you.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. SSDD at March 02, 2016 08:54 PM (WVsWD)
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 08:54 PM (dciA+)
Because he kinda sorta likes breathing and stuff.
Posted by: blaster at March 02, 2016 08:54 PM (2Ocf1)
Cheryl Mills just went on vacation to a country without an extradition agreement. Huma is hot on her heels.
Posted by: no good deed at March 02, 2016 08:54 PM (GgxVX)
DOJ GRANTS IMMUNITY TO STATE DEPT. EMPLOYEE WHO SET UP CLINTON'S SERVER
"Just when I thought I was out (taking the night off) they pull me back in again!!"
Posted by: not really ace at March 02, 2016 08:54 PM (Vy81P)
Also people are less good now.
Posted by: eleven at March 02, 2016 08:54 PM (qUNWi)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2016 08:54 PM (8PbKi)
Yeah, it means he spills or goes to the clink.
I don't care if this minor functionary walks, the concern is the people at the top.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 02, 2016 08:55 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: John Morris at March 02, 2016 08:55 PM (sCRhB)
Posted by: TedCruzLegThrill
The programmers guaranteed that the new jokes app with my latex OS update would kill.
"Trump's mama so fat, when she sits around the Taj Mahal she sits AROUND the Taj Mahal."
Posted by: Dondi Amin, Conqueror of the Trump Empire in Minnesota in General and Minnesota in Particular at March 02, 2016 08:55 PM (SiyyF)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 08:55 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Splunge at March 02, 2016 08:55 PM (iMxBJ)
That went to a weird place.
Posted by: Dondi Amin, Conqueror of the Trump Empire in Minnesota in General and Minnesota in Particular at March 02, 2016 08:56 PM (SiyyF)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 08:56 PM (zOTsN)
DOJ grants immunity to Hillary's server guy.
Huma. Did you hear what happened?
Huma?
Huma?
Huma?
Posted by: Hillary at March 02, 2016 08:56 PM (12kBq)
Spur of the moment; just chucked in any name I could think of. Withdraw Frum, replace with Tom Friedman
Posted by: Vanya Secundus, Hitler Parodies at March 02, 2016 08:57 PM (v+nYp)
Posted by: Roger Ailes at March 02, 2016 08:57 PM (Pm+du)
I want alcohol. And titty cream. And contentment.
But mostly alcohol. The titty cream would be Ok too.
Posted by: Jam Free at March 02, 2016 08:57 PM (qul7b)
Posted by: JerseyJerk at March 02, 2016 08:57 PM (Xgt6t)
Therefore you are correct about the "criminal penalties". Howsoever there are other penalties. Other penalties.
amirite Lenny?
*cracks knuckles*
Posted by: Bruno and lenny from Da Clinton Foundation at March 02, 2016 08:57 PM (UmCLB)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 02, 2016 08:57 PM (6FqZa)
I remember debates where they'd have something for the short guys to stand on, to make them all the same height (SNL got a good joke out of that one when Jon Lovitz played Dukakis). Not in these. The variation is substantial.
Posted by: Splunge at March 02, 2016 08:58 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 08:56 PM (zOTsN)
I hope like hell he throws the Beast under the bus.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 08:58 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: logprof at March 02, 2016 08:58 PM (ow8Ca)
Posted by: Hannibal Lecter at March 02, 2016 08:58 PM (mPQ7K)
it means he spills and what he spills cannot be used against him
if he pled the 5th and they didnt not seek and get immunity for him the investigation would die
the fact that he got immunity means the invesigtion is still on going, he is cooperating and it has not been sent to a Grand Jury
yet
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 08:58 PM (zOTsN)
No such thing, with immunity.
Who was it that was forced to give testimony AND was prosecuted? Was that Ollie North? There was some exquisitely choreographed ballet as I remember it.
It went well beyond tap dancing.
Posted by: Walter Crushchurch at March 02, 2016 08:58 PM (2RnOO)
DOJ GRANTS IMMUNITY TO STATE DEPT. EMPLOYEE WHO SET UP CLINTON'S SERVER
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 02, 2016 08:50 PM (zLP1L)
Could mean anything, really.
In the real world, it would mean they want him to testify against Hillary.
In DC world, they might just grant everyone involved immunity so that they could testify against some dedicated fall guy no one has heard of.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 08:58 PM (AkOaV)
he got the immunity and he is cooperating
***
All I saw was the ALL CAPS comment and thought it was a joke. I just tried the link and it's bad.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2016 08:58 PM (8PbKi)
But mostly alcohol. The titty cream would be Ok too.
Posted by: Jam Free
If the titty cream worked, wouldn't it give you huge hands too?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at March 02, 2016 08:58 PM (SiyyF)
Posted by: Joe Biden at March 02, 2016 08:58 PM (12kBq)
Posted by: eleven at March 02, 2016 08:59 PM (qUNWi)
yet
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 08:58 PM (zOTsN)
why hasnt a grand jury been convened already? They've had the evidence against Hillary! for months now.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 08:59 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 08:59 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2016 08:58 PM (8PbKi)
take the spaces (%20 in html talk) out.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 08:59 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: eman at March 02, 2016 08:59 PM (k9xrn)
I've seen all good people turn their heads each day so satisfied I'm on my way
Posted by: El Marko at March 02, 2016 09:00 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2016 09:00 PM (8PbKi)
Limited supply. Don't be left out and get indicted.
Have some juicy Hillary tidbits? Come on down to Trader Joe DOJ and we'll put you in a brand new immunity jacket and witness protection program.
Plus we're taking anonymous tips of how and when an who did what and where
call 1-800-whobitchthisis
or 1-800-shesgoingdown
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 02, 2016 09:00 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 02, 2016 09:00 PM (qmMG2)
He was a good 'un. We're running out of character actors who look distinctive, but not like pretty boys.
Posted by: Splunge at March 02, 2016 09:00 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: steevy at March 02, 2016 09:00 PM (B48dK)
Who was it that was forced to give testimony AND was prosecuted? Was that Ollie North? There was some exquisitely choreographed ballet as I remember it.
there are two types of immunity: Use immunity and the other one. Transaction immunity, I think.
Use immunity means that while you can still be prosecuted, prosecutors cannot USE your testimony against you, nor any evidence collected thanks to having your testimony.
It's a weaker form of immunity.
Transaction immunity means you can't be prosecuted for the specific crimes they list in the immunity agreement. You're totally immune under all circumstances. So you can't plead the fifth.
North had only use immunity. they prosecuted him, they say, based on evidence gotten elsewhere, or for somethign else (like obstruction of justice or whatever).
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 09:00 PM (dciA+)
How is Ted going to get people to eventually vote for him with thuggishness and gloating?
Hopefully you get a President Cruz but you are using the same tactics that you loathed in Palin supporters.
Oh well.
Posted by: Chris Christie Feats of Strength at March 02, 2016 09:00 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: Lauren at March 02, 2016 09:00 PM (92Dmd)
No, not scissoring
Posted by: Black Lives Matter at March 02, 2016 09:01 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 02, 2016 09:01 PM (6FqZa)
The evidence and witnesses are probably being presented to the GJ but I think she means that the indictment has not been presented yet. Which is pretty standard.
Posted by: Bruno and lenny from Da Clinton Foundation at March 02, 2016 09:01 PM (UmCLB)
Posted by: George Stephanopoulos at March 02, 2016 09:01 PM (12kBq)
And under no circumstances should anyone believe they aren't.
This is under Obama's guidance. This is bullshit and will remain bullshit until he fucking leaves office.
MF'ing Period.
Posted by: Mike Huckabee at March 02, 2016 09:01 PM (A/3fN)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at March 02, 2016 08:58 PM (SiyyF)
*****
Hands are mammary glands now? So many new possibilities....
Posted by: Tim in GA at March 02, 2016 09:01 PM (RWjrX)
Don't fuck with the Clinton's unless you have bank to protect yourself.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 09:01 PM (FsuaD)
it means he spills and what he spills cannot be used against him
if he pled the 5th and they didnt not seek and get immunity for him the investigation would die
did he get that one (use immunity) or the full immunity, transaction immunity?
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 09:02 PM (dciA+)
Which is kinda lesbo and scruffy.
Fiorina had that look and so do some other female execs.
Can't be looking feminine/pretty and bitch slap your CFO.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 02, 2016 09:02 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 02, 2016 09:02 PM (EZebt)
How is Ted going to get people to eventually vote for him with thuggishness and gloating?
Wut?
Posted by: Splunge at March 02, 2016 09:02 PM (iMxBJ)
***
I think she's beautiful with the short do although tonight it isn't styled the best I've seen.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2016 09:02 PM (8PbKi)
read the article linked to the tweet
they are trying to prove criminal knowledge on the part of Hillary and her coven
remember they did not go to the OPSEC training and they didnt sign the required OPSEC paperwork
which makes it hard to prove the "knowingly" part of the offense
they are using him to unravel all the emails and find out who ordered him and why to see if they can prove consciousness if guilt, which they need lacking the paperwork
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:02 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Totally not a commercial at March 02, 2016 09:02 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at March 02, 2016 09:02 PM (+eR2D)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 02, 2016 09:02 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Splunge at March 02, 2016 09:00 PM (iMxBJ)
--Not just a good actor, but the story of him adopting his granddaughter (whose parents were drug addicts) was touching.
Posted by: logprof at March 02, 2016 09:02 PM (ow8Ca)
Posted by: Joey "Choo-choo" Biden at March 02, 2016 09:03 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: Vince Foster at March 02, 2016 09:03 PM (12kBq)
Posted by: Splunge at March 02, 2016 09:03 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 09:03 PM (pUDQf)
he could claim that, and i'm sure it's been suggested to him he should claim that... but if he does, there is no immunity. if you can prove he lied, immunity's out the window, and you can charge for the original crime plus perjury and obstruction.
Now... I'm sure hillary could dangle jobs and pardons....
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 09:03 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at March 02, 2016 08:58 PM (SiyyF)
You know who could use some of that? Donald Trump!
Posted by: Mario Romo at March 02, 2016 09:04 PM (7qAYi)
I'm not a fan of Ryan. He's showing he's a piece of work. And I remember being so excited when the rooftop-dog-killer picked him as his VP. I was so innocent back then.
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 09:04 PM (e7T6D)
He put SecState onto a private server without her permission? And got it done with no protest from anyone?
He'd get sent up for perjury, no one would believe that.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 02, 2016 09:04 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 09:04 PM (UmCLB)
you can get this much from Law & Order
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 09:04 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 08:58 PM (zOTsN)
Dear Mr. Server Guy,
Hillary Clinton is world famous, fabulously wealthy and protected by political connections. She has armies of lawyers and a public relations apparatus more loyal than Kim Jong Un's.
You, on the other hand, are not. You are a dude who nobody's ever heard of, and unlikely to defend, with extremely finite resources. We can, should we wish, cause your colon to resemble Fallujah after a hurricane. Should we wish.
We invite you to carefully consider your options.
Love and kisses,
The FBI
Posted by: Vanya Secundus at March 02, 2016 09:04 PM (v+nYp)
Posted by: steevy at March 02, 2016 09:04 PM (B48dK)
This computer guy must have had a hell of a spider hole. Would have
thought he would have taken a midnight stroll thru Fort Marcy Park by
now
Posted by: Vince Foster at March 02, 2016 09:03 PM (12kBq)
Word.
Posted by: Ron Brown at March 02, 2016 09:04 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: logprof at March 02, 2016 09:04 PM (ow8Ca)
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 09:02 PM (dciA+)
the article did not say what flavor immunity he got, and it could be the super duper journalists didnt know there are different kinds
but if I were advising him I would demand full immunity not just use immunity
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:05 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Ambassador Stevens at March 02, 2016 09:05 PM (12kBq)
Why doesn't BenGay make your hands get hot?
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 02, 2016 09:05 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 02, 2016 09:05 PM (I62V5)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 09:05 PM (pUDQf)
DOJ GRANTS IMMUNITY TO STATE DEPT. EMPLOYEE WHO SET UP CLINTON'S SERVER
Employee then confesses to doing it all on his own and Hillery new nothing about her e-mail being on a 'real' private server - she just thought she got a cutesie e-mail address.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 02, 2016 09:05 PM (T78UI)
it means he spills and what he spills cannot be used against him
if he pled the 5th and they didnt not seek and get immunity for him the investigation would die
did he get that one (use immunity) or the full immunity, transaction immunity?
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 09:02 PM (dciA+)
So is Biden cracking his knuckles, and getting ready to swoop in and save the Democrats by volunteering to run? For the DOJ to do this, The White House had to loose the hounds to go after Hillary. They obviously think she is vulnerable, and it's apparent that Bernie just isn't doing it in the primaries. So either they want Bernie to win, or Obama is doing this for Biden as a thank you for making him look smart for 8 years.
Posted by: Moki at March 02, 2016 09:05 PM (7q2ch)
Posted by: Bill from Chappaqua at March 02, 2016 09:06 PM (12kBq)
Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 09:06 PM (UmCLB)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 09:06 PM (FsuaD)
"Oprah threatens to eat us!!"
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 02, 2016 09:06 PM (ntObR)
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 02, 2016 09:06 PM (ntObR)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 09:06 PM (FsuaD)
I've had to pretend to care about college basketball this year. That's more than enough for me.
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at March 02, 2016 09:07 PM (t5zYU)
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 09:07 PM (e7T6D)
Here's my question:
Why do they need him at all?
They KNOW Hillary purposely skirted public records laws, AND they know she transferred classified data over a non-classified network (whether it was her server or gmail or the state.gov email, makes no difference).
So why do they need the nerd at all?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:07 PM (AkOaV)
erick erickson with a bucket on his head
erick erickson with a bucket on his head
Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 09:08 PM (UmCLB)
Ace went to law school on a Rebel Alliance diversity scholarship. Made a big dent in the school's "furry extraterrestrial" diversity category.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 02, 2016 09:08 PM (o98Jz)
Posted by: logprof at March 02, 2016 09:08 PM (HIlpB)
So with time on her hands and money she's created this conservative outlet (with just a soupcon of liberalism and libertarianism) that confuses and confounds her 'friends' at their parties.
Or he's some crazy hobo with computer access from Red Hook.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 02, 2016 09:08 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 02, 2016 09:08 PM (FkBIv)
(Link in sig)
***
But wait! He's now supposed to be throwing down to stop Obama's immigration plans.
BTW, have I mentioned that this is Ryan positioning himself for a brokered convention?
http://bit.ly/1Qkbnww
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2016 09:08 PM (8PbKi)
Hillary and the coven purposefully avoided the OPSE training and forms so they can claim ignorance and try and evade criminal prosecution
but IT guy?
he is totally fucked. He took the training. He set up the system. He likely signed the requisite forms which would prove intent. He is so fucked, and he is the one that had direct communications with whoever ordered him to set up the illegal system
this is a big deal
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:08 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:07 PM (AkOaV)
For his testimony at the televised trial. In October.
Please...please...please.
Posted by: Splunge at March 02, 2016 09:09 PM (iMxBJ)
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Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 09:09 PM (UmCLB)
*I mean more usual. Or just to those who are paying attention. Which means only a 1 out of every 300k voters.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 02, 2016 09:09 PM (A/3fN)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 02, 2016 09:09 PM (6FqZa)
Why do they need him at all?
They KNOW Hillary purposely skirted public records laws, AND they know she transferred classified data over a non-classified network (whether it was her server or gmail or the state.gov email, makes no difference).
So why do they need the nerd at all?
...
people said above: To prove Hillary's state of mind, her intent.
she's claiming this all just sort of happened. It's useful to have a live witness to say: "She ordered this specifically to defeat FOIA records searches. And yes, she understood that classified emails would be coming across her unsecure system."
Also, bear in mind: THIS GUY'S COMPUTER RECORDS WENT MISSING AS WELL.
now... what do you think happened to those?
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 09:09 PM (dciA+)
*fingers and toes crossed*
Be a shame if it gave Billy Jeff a stroke. Fully aware, unable to talk or feel. Anything.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 09:10 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: steevy at March 02, 2016 09:10 PM (B48dK)
Meagain jumps from Erick Erickson quotes to interviewing Rubio.
He looks like death warmed over.
Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 09:10 PM (UmCLB)
I don't fear them. One of them has huge upward-curving silver bosoms.
Posted by: Captain Kirk, Teaching Aliens What "Love" Is One Orgasm at a Time at March 02, 2016 09:10 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Frankie Pentangeli at March 02, 2016 09:10 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: TedCruzLegThrill at March 02, 2016 09:10 PM (VekM5)
So why do they need the nerd at all?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
'they cannot PROOVE she knew since she intentionally skipped the training and never signed the requisire forms proving such knowledge, neith she nor any of her coven
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:10 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 09:09 PM (UmCLB)
--Great, now we're going to suffer through Hillary! wearing Lulu Lemon.
Posted by: logprof at March 02, 2016 09:11 PM (HIlpB)
Posted by: Moki at March 02, 2016 09:11 PM (7q2ch)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 09:11 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Crump/Truz at March 02, 2016 09:11 PM (8EJen)
Now... I'm sure hillary could dangle jobs and pardons....
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 09:03 PM (dciA+)
dude, HE broke no laws though.
There is nothing illegal about setting up an email server (assuming they paid the $5000 or so for the genuine microsoft licensing and CALs).
I don't understand why he's being offered any deal at all unless
a) he's promising to testify against Hillary... which, he has no incentive to do.
b) they're planning on making some nobody a scapegoat for the whole thing in some totally unrealistic scenario in which Hillary was entirely unaware of the world around here.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:11 PM (AkOaV)
Also... the Saudi's have a financial stake in it as well.
So really, setting up Rubio might have simply been their way of giving Hillary a weak opponent.
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at March 02, 2016 09:11 PM (7FH+T)
Posted by: steevy at March 02, 2016 09:11 PM (B48dK)
Apparently, Roger Ailes is reprising the role of Shirley Winters. He might just be the only one at FoxNews that doesn't want to fvck Megyn Kelly.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo, we have no country at March 02, 2016 09:12 PM (1ijHg)
Mario says Trump has a "real problem moving forward".
Mario confesses swapping emails with Mittiot.
This is awesome.
Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 09:12 PM (UmCLB)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:10 PM (zOTsN)
As I understand it, intent is not required when it comes to these classified-document laws. All they need to prove is that she was negligent in handling classified info, which... duh.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:12 PM (AkOaV)
He does now. You think he didn't sign some sort of agreement to get that immunity?
Posted by: Splunge at March 02, 2016 09:12 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at March 02, 2016 09:12 PM (I62V5)
Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 09:10 PM (UmCLB)
Rubio and Megyn, in a week:
youtube.com/watch?v=S5Y8tFQ01OY
Posted by: Vanya Secundus at March 02, 2016 09:13 PM (v+nYp)
Marco F'ing Rubio.
I guess she didn't get the memo.
Posted by: Shoey at March 02, 2016 09:13 PM (vA94g)
There is nothing illegal about setting up an email server (assuming they paid the $5000 or so for the genuine microsoft licensing and CALs).
conspiracy to break other laws is illegal. you can get a conspiracy rap when you agree to take part in the breaking of most laws.
plus, his own computer records went missing... that seems to me to be highly convenient. like obstruction of justice convenient.
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 09:13 PM (dciA+)
***
During the same townhall, last week, when she was so warm to Cruz, it was apparent that she had also turned a corner with Rubio.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2016 09:13 PM (8PbKi)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:07 PM (AkOaV)
The FBI/DOJ don't like to prosecute unless they have a 95%+ chance of a guilty verdict.
Posted by: Bill from Chappaqua at March 02, 2016 09:13 PM (12kBq)
This sort of thing happens all of the time in Washington. In fact, when it happens like this all of the time, it usually means the boss of the now immunized staffer is actually super-innocent.
Posted by: Weasel at March 02, 2016 09:13 PM (e3bId)
*penis enlargement ads*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 09:06 PM (FsuaD)
Or as I call it, Porn.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 09:13 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 02, 2016 09:13 PM (ntObR)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 09:13 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 02, 2016 09:14 PM (Xo1Rt)
They were on the IRs backup server? Who knows?
But from what I understand, when it comes to laws regarding classified information, intent is irrelevant.
Now I'm not a lawyer (yet), but I am an IT nerd, and I don't see what the "stick" was for this guy. Setting up a server is not illegal, why would he had any pressure to turn "states witness"?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:14 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: L, Elle at March 02, 2016 09:14 PM (2GjZZ)
Posted by: logprof at March 02, 2016 09:14 PM (HIlpB)
that's because you're all a bunch of losers, low-energy. Bad people!
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 09:14 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 09:15 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 02, 2016 09:15 PM (qmMG2)
You know what this means? It means that Rubio is going to be at an outside lectern, opposite of Kasich.
Tee hee.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2016 09:15 PM (8PbKi)
this is pretty big and pretty bad for her
why would DOJ grant immunity now?
this will not sweep this under the rug
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:15 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 09:13 PM (dciA+)
yeah, so does everyone in governments. Ask Lois Lerner.
I don't know -- I don't see this as good news. I see this as "we're going to prosecute some nobody IT guy for setting up this server behind Hillarys back -- she had no idea it happened because shes a clueless old drunk grandma."
...I don't know. I guess we'll see.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:16 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:14 PM (AkOaV)
Maybe he did something they DO have dirt on him for, either wit regards to the server or something else?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2016 09:16 PM (iHjB5)
Posted by: Jean Luc Picard at March 02, 2016 09:16 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:12 PM (AkOaV)
My first job in the Marine Corps was basic security guard. I was stationed at the Naval Headquarters building for all of Europe, which was in London, across the street from the embassy.
One of our jobs was to patrol the building at night and check all the offices, doors, trashcans, etc. There was a LOT of classified stuff in that building. If we found your office unlocked, or your classified folders in the trash, it didn't matter that you Didn't Mean To Do It-- You're still getting the sandpaper dildo from Uncle Sam.
Posted by: Vanya Secundus at March 02, 2016 09:17 PM (v+nYp)
Now I'm not a lawyer (yet), but I am an IT nerd, and I don't see what the "stick" was for this guy. Setting up a server is not illegal, why would he had any pressure to turn "states witness"?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:14 PM (AkOaV)
intent is not irrelevant. There is "negligent" and "knowlingly" and "knowingly" is a CRIME
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:17 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 08:46 PM (AkOaV)
Even that moderate of all moderate Republican Presidents Eisenhower, when giving a convention speech for Goldwater, complained about the "East Coast" Media as he termed it. We now call it the "Mainstream Media" but they've been controlled as subsidiaries of large corporations for a few decades. It's just now that the civic intelligence of the American population has gone down that the opinion creators don't think it's as necessary to hide the fact that the role they play in shaping and controlling public opinion far outweighs their most similar ideological representation among the population as a whole.
Posted by: Crump/Truz at March 02, 2016 09:17 PM (8EJen)
Posted by: Donald Trump, Enemy of Kirk at March 02, 2016 09:17 PM (dciA+)
And they will get this nerd to testify against some other nameless nerd, and Hillary! will not be implicated at all.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:17 PM (AkOaV)
Bryan better not go to Fort Macy Park, or near any railroad tracks. Just sayin....
Posted by: Zombie President Polk and General Taylor at March 02, 2016 09:17 PM (MVoQU)
Ace went to law school on a Rebel Alliance diversity scholarship. Made a big dent in the school's "furry extraterrestrial" diversity category.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
In one of the Rogue Squadron books, Wedge (Squadron Leader, and the guy that did both Death Star Runs for you noobs) wears a black suit, but puts an Ewok in his lap, then went and kicked some imperial butt.
The imps thought it was real and were terrified by it!
I imagine Ace as Wedge The Ewok from time to time lol.. (so now I can add to the end of that story with law school)
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:17 PM (Vy81P)
Posted by: major major major major at March 02, 2016 09:18 PM (ZNgWo)
Who's running for president.
Posted by: I'm using the chicken to measure it at March 02, 2016 09:18 PM (BO/km)
which makes it hard to prove the "knowingly" part of the offense
Huh, to me, that makes it glaringly obvious it was knowingly done. Just find out how many other people had to sign the documents and do the training vs. those who didn't. Wow, looky here, it's only Hillary's minions. Viola, intent.
Posted by: no good deed at March 02, 2016 09:18 PM (GgxVX)
intent is not irrelevant. There is "negligent" and "knowlingly" and "knowingly" is a CRIME
intent is not relevant to one crime, the mishandling of classified information charge.
for other crimes it almost certainly is. I don't know what law would cover "deliberately avoiding the government records act requirements," but that would definitely involve intent.
Posted by: Donald Trump, Enemy of Kirk at March 02, 2016 09:18 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:17 PM (zOTsN)
I'm not a lawyer, as I said, but as I understand it, when it comes to classified data, intent is irrelevant. Just being negligent with the data is a felony.
Unless they're trying to prove treason, intent does not matter.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:18 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 02, 2016 09:18 PM (MVoQU)
Prosecutors wouldn't agree to bad evidence, and deviating from the proffer would likely result in charges for perjury. A good prosecutor wouldn't extend immunity without knowing what he'd get in return.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 02, 2016 09:19 PM (oVJmc)
Every time she balks at the increased bid, they up the ante through the FBI.
Obama's trying to get Hillary's Foundation to pay for his Hawaiian get away bungalow/bunker.
He's almost there. Tax free and on an exclusive island in the pacific. Who could ask for more for an evil villain's retirement home?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 02, 2016 09:19 PM (Xo1Rt)
They did some really cool shit today with laws and stuff.
http://tinyurl.com/hxtfywf
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 02, 2016 09:19 PM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 02, 2016 09:19 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Vanya Secundus at March 02, 2016 09:17 PM (v+nYp)
sure but all those people went through OPSEC training and signed the requisite forms indicating such knowledge and being advised of the penalty for violating OPSEC
Hillary and the coven skipped the training and never signed the forms
they need him to provide that element of the offense, that they knew and did it anyway
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:19 PM (zOTsN)
Love it.
Posted by: navybrat at March 02, 2016 09:19 PM (8QGte)
Can we get an AOSHQ pool going on how long until this guy commits suicide now that he has immunity?
Posted by: major major major major at March 02, 2016 09:18 PM (ZNgWo)
Suicide by slit throat and wrists and hanging. But mostly hanging.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 09:19 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: angela urkel at March 02, 2016 09:19 PM (GOYpy)
I was working in Yemen when they unified North Yemen and South Yemen. In the first parliamentary elections after unity, the local rag (Yemen Times) did interviews with the political party leaders. Most memorable was the interview the leader of Islamic Neighborhood (aka Islamic Brotherhood). He stated that it was foregone that the elections would be rigged. Would it be possible, he asked, if they only rigged 80% of the elections this time? Give some semblance of democracy that the world could appreciated?
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at March 02, 2016 09:19 PM (O4NI/)
ace brings more content in a sentence than that overhyped, self promoting douche has in his pitiful 'career'.
Hey Megynn !
I 'hate Trump'. Put me on tv. Did I tell you I have a radio show?
EE is the Kenny Bania of conservative media.
Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 09:19 PM (UmCLB)
Posted by: Donald Trump, Enemy of Kirk at March 02, 2016 09:18 PM (dciA+)
...which would mean THAT is what they are focusing on. A ho-hum "everyone does it" misdemeanor-type crime of which Hillary could say "shit, i had no idea. I'm a dumbass. Maybe John Smith in IT knew though!!!"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:19 PM (AkOaV)
I'll play. What are the odds that the FBI is actually going to act, in accordance with the a law and ask for charges on this whole stinking pile? And really.. the number of people that "knew" of this situation and didn't tell anyone.. under the rules of the secret shit... they'd be going to jail too. But they won't.
But I'm fairly certain... this wasn't only at State. They all knew about it from day one... and abetted it. Knowingly conspired to subvert the secrecy of the U.S. and endanger the confidential communications thereof. No?
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 09:19 PM (e7T6D)
others, "make America great again", and prioritizes the common man in
his shtick. And he's doing something Republicans haven't even been
trying to do since Reagan, and is why leftism has been on the rise.
Because even though they're condescending elitists, at least they
attempt to peddle their bullshit to hispanics, blacks, lower
income, et al. and through popular culture.
Rubio is so Acela, he has 4G wireless for his real-time module updates
Cruz could cut big into Trump's numbers, because that's who his message should appeal and benefit the most, but seems to think if he just mentions "end the IRS" and "Jesus" 47 more times today, he'll win.
Posted by: A.G. at March 02, 2016 09:19 PM (DnQNa)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 09:19 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 09:20 PM (UmCLB)
plus, his own computer records went missing... that seems to me to be
highly convenient. like obstruction of justice convenient.
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 09:13 PM (dciA+)
yeah, so does everyone in governments. Ask Lois Lerner.
You just don't understand government ways. Didn't you ever see the openers for Mission Impossible? It's standard practice.
Posted by: pep at March 02, 2016 09:20 PM (LAe3v)
as said above, that's just one crime of a possible dirty dozen of crimes violated here, including delberate destruction of government-owned records.
(If that's a crime -- I assume it is.)
Posted by: Donald Trump, Enemy of Kirk at March 02, 2016 09:20 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 09:20 PM (UmCLB)
I'll drive from Lisbon to Petropavlosk for a Lerner indictment and abolition of the IRS.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2016 09:20 PM (iHjB5)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 02, 2016 09:20 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: logprof at March 02, 2016 09:20 PM (HIlpB)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel
there are lawyers in the fed who do nothing but these kinds of cases. I am sure they know exactly what ot look for and demand
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:21 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:21 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:21 PM (AkOaV)
Nothing is going to happen to her. Stop chasing windmills, morons!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!
She will happen to us.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 02, 2016 09:21 PM (FkBIv)
...which would mean THAT is what they are focusing on. A ho-hum "everyone does it" misdemeanor-type crime of which Hillary could say "shit, i had no idea. I'm a dumbass. Maybe John Smith in IT knew though!!!"
could be. they could be looking to charge her with a more minor thing as a compromise, to avoid charging her with the more serious thing.
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 09:21 PM (dciA+)
***
I bet he now wishes he'd just kept to ice skating competitions.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2016 09:21 PM (8PbKi)
The imps thought it was real and were terrified by it!
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:17 PM (Vy81P)
I was thinking of that same story! Can't wait to re-read the Rogue Squadron series.
Posted by: Josephistan at March 02, 2016 09:21 PM (7qAYi)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 09:19 PM (FsuaD)
Shot himself in the back of the head. Four times.
Posted by: Vanya Secundus at March 02, 2016 09:21 PM (v+nYp)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby
They did. They went from Daryl Hammond to Norm McDonald and now to Jim Gaffigan.
Or do you mean change from HIM too??
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:21 PM (Vy81P)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 09:22 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Ready For Darth Hillary!!11!! at March 02, 2016 09:22 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: steevy at March 02, 2016 09:22 PM (B48dK)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. SSDD at March 02, 2016 09:22 PM (WVsWD)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo, we have no country at March 02, 2016 09:22 PM (1ijHg)
Lizzie Warren
Deval Patrick
Corey Booker
Moochelle
Valerie Jarrett
Make a guess
Posted by: Debbie Wasserman Shultz at March 02, 2016 09:22 PM (12kBq)
alright, I'm not going to argue with the boss.
I just see this as a "bad sign."
Because if THAT'S what theyre focused on -- nothing will come of this.
They should be focused on classified info going over an unclassified network. Which is felonious and does not require intent.
Not some bullshit "purposely avoiding FOIA" petty misdemeanor stuff that can be written off as "staffing issues".
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:23 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: no good deed at March 02, 2016 09:23 PM (GgxVX)
REALLY...?
And why am I only hearing about this now...?
(runs to imdb)
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 09:23 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 09:23 PM (pUDQf)
Two shots to the back of the head in a locked room and no gun.
Yep. It's suicide alright.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 02, 2016 09:23 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. SSDD at March 02, 2016 09:22 PM (WVsWD)
no.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:23 PM (AkOaV)
DOJ GRANTS IMMUNITY TO STATE DEPT. EMPLOYEE WHO SET UP CLINTON'S SERVER
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 02, 2016 08:50 PM (zLP1L)
He better hire his own round the clock bodyguards.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 02, 2016 09:23 PM (45oDG)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois.
No, but he has been offered a free vacation to Croatia. Special flight on an USAF 737 named "Spirit of Ron Brown"
Posted by: Aviator at March 02, 2016 09:23 PM (c7vUv)
But who knows? Have you ever seen them at the same place, at the same time?
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo, we have no country at March 02, 2016 09:24 PM (1ijHg)
Posted by: logprof at March 02, 2016 09:24 PM (HIlpB)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Ah yeah, that was it. Allison not Stackpole's writing (met him at a con many years ago. great guy, really into WWII stuff, and it shows)
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:24 PM (Vy81P)
Posted by: Debbie Wasserman Shultz at March 02, 2016 09:22 PM (12kBq)
*****
Julian Castro
Posted by: Tim in GA at March 02, 2016 09:24 PM (RWjrX)
Posted by: Feh at March 02, 2016 09:24 PM (Uk9e2)
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:24 PM (Vy81P)
In other words, a TOTAL nerd?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:25 PM (AkOaV)
Megyn just went full Shep with 2016 Campaign Deck !
Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 09:25 PM (UmCLB)
Posted by: Josephistan at March 02, 2016 09:25 PM (7qAYi)
In the early 1980s, she appeared as a stripper in Las Vegas, Nevada but soon abandoned her avocation as an ecdysiast and softcore star for hardcore porn. Titillation (1982), Stalag 69 (1982) and Body Talk (1982) featured Pettyjohn, billed as either "Angel St. John", "Heaven St. John", or under her old moniker, "Angelique".
The burgeoning Star Trek cult, bolstered by the series of movies released by Paramount beginning in 1979, allowed Pettyjohn to quickly ditch her hardcore career. She began working Star Trek conventions to earn her keep, selling posters of herself, in and out of her sexy outfit from "The Gamesters of Triskelion".
via imdb.
oh well.
Damn Nerds! She would have done hard-core if you had LIVES!
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 09:25 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 02, 2016 09:23 PM (45oDG)
Why does this feel like we will hear about the results from this in a Sherlock episode where he is going over his "Unsolved" cases?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2016 09:25 PM (iHjB5)
Posted by: TedCruzLegThrill at March 02, 2016 09:25 PM (VekM5)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. SSDD at March 02, 2016 09:26 PM (WVsWD)
Okay.
well, I guess this is what the internet was made for then, what?
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 09:26 PM (dciA+)
All the kids shuffle back to their starting positions, and Marco picks up his whistle again...
Posted by: Little league coach at March 02, 2016 09:26 PM (O4NI/)
-----------------
There is nothing illegal about setting up an email server (assuming they paid the $5000 or so for the genuine microsoft licensing and CALs).
I'm assuming the guy who set up the email server did some work maintaining it and supporting it.
And who knows what else he might know?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 02, 2016 09:26 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:24 PM (Vy81P)
It's a shame Aaron Allston died so young.
Posted by: Josephistan at March 02, 2016 09:26 PM (7qAYi)
Posted by: Just wondering at March 02, 2016 09:26 PM (JvilL)
And who knows what else he might know?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 02, 2016 09:26 PM (uURQL)
But "knowing" is not illegal.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:27 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 09:27 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Vanya Secundus at March 02, 2016 09:27 PM (v+nYp)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 02, 2016 09:27 PM (oVJmc)
Then they go check it out and if they find 'discrepancies' they'll come back and ask you if you're SURE that's what happened.
And then slowly let you realize that they know you were lying so then you try to explain that away somehow but it's too late because lying to a Federal Agent is a felony as it's considered obstructing an investigation.
Just ask Martha Stewart or Scooter Libby. (or a bunch of others doing time for telling lies to the cops.)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 02, 2016 09:27 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. SSDD at March 02, 2016
not without beaking the law
I dont think the FOIA thing is a throw away. I am just as interested in the interplay between the State Dept and the Clinton Foundation
good old fashioned pay for play.
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:27 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: IC at March 02, 2016 09:28 PM (zK6nG)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at March 02, 2016 09:28 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 09:25 PM (dciA+)
I had no idea what this was, so I looked it up:
ec·dys·i·ast
noun-humorous
a striptease performer.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2016 09:28 PM (iHjB5)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo, we have no country at March 02, 2016 09:28 PM (1ijHg)
So Ailes wants Fox News to push this or that candidate, over and above reporting the news. So all the left wing critics are correct, then, when they accuse Fox of full-time partisan hackery. I can't think of anything worse Ailes could possibly say that would more damaging to the brand.
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 02, 2016 09:28 PM (vmzNL)
i need a good laugh.
Posted by: concrete girl at March 02, 2016 09:28 PM (0KgAM)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 02, 2016 09:28 PM (GOYpy)
That anyone knows of?
(Infowars conspiracy stuff. I'll tell ya, it's a drug.)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. SSDD at March 02, 2016 09:28 PM (WVsWD)
Hot News.
DOJ grants immunity to Hillary's server guy.
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/
status/705204754864054273
Posted by: ArthurK at March 02, 2016 08:48 PM (h53OH
He's a dead man walking.
Posted by: Hanoverfist at March 02, 2016 09:28 PM (avboE)
dude, buying gloves is illegal when you know the intent is to use the gloves in a bank robbery.
if there is a crime you know about, and you agree to participate, even in committing an action (like buying gloves) which is itself not illegal, you're guilty of conspiracy.
plus, there may be a trail of misleading answers and evidence withheld that could support perjury/obstruction charges.
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 09:29 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2016 09:20 PM (iHjB5)
I doubt that it would be anything so easy.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 02, 2016 09:29 PM (q2o38)
Posted by: Colonel Klink at March 02, 2016 09:29 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 09:30 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Mongoose at March 02, 2016 09:30 PM (pni7x)
Posted by: Josephistan
Awww damn, didn't know that.
And I meant I met Stackpole ages ago, and yes he was pretty nerdy as far as WWII goes at least lol. people would come up and i'd give them time to talk and get an autograph, but then we'd turn to talking warbirds etc till another one came up.
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:30 PM (Vy81P)
No one escapes Stalag 69!
That will be one of the Happy Fun Camps when the Hildebeast is elected.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 09:31 PM (FsuaD)
why would DOJ grant immunity now?
this will not sweep this under the rug
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:15 PM (zOTsN)
MFM: If we don't report it, it doesn't exist. So it doesn't exist
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 02, 2016 09:31 PM (45oDG)
Posted by: L, Elle at March 02, 2016 09:31 PM (2GjZZ)
unless it's a put-up job, arranged on both sides to be false and thus not damaging to Clinton.
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 09:31 PM (dciA+)
That anyone knows of?
(Infowars conspiracy stuff. I'll tell ya, it's a drug.)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. SSDD at March 02, 2016 09:28 PM (WVsWD)
****
I would have to believe anything "Eyes only" not listing the President would qualify.
Posted by: Tim in GA at March 02, 2016 09:31 PM (RWjrX)
If so, king putt's ass is covered.
Revenge time.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. SSDD at March 02, 2016 09:31 PM (WVsWD)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:31 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Rene Renault, Prefect of Police in Casablanca at March 02, 2016 09:32 PM (1ijHg)
I have a vague recollection that Grace Lee Whitney, yes, Yeoman Janice Rand herself, hit a post-Trek personal low point and ended up turning tricks to pay the bills.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2016 09:32 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:30 PM (Vy81P)
Cool. Only SW author I've met was Timothy Zahn. Got him to sign about a dozen books.
Posted by: Josephistan at March 02, 2016 09:32 PM (7qAYi)
Posted by: Rene Renault, Prefect of Police in Casablanca at March 02, 2016 09:32 PM (1ijHg)
Damn. Mitt's gonna need a skin graft for that burn.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 02, 2016 09:33 PM (6FqZa)
Oh I hope so. That is where they keep the information that will allow us to rebuild civilization, next year.
Posted by: Splunge at March 02, 2016 09:33 PM (iMxBJ)
If you don't believe that sheer stupidity is also involved, then I got a bridge from Gaza to the West Bank I'd like to sell you.
Posted by: Matt Yglesias at March 02, 2016 09:33 PM (GOYpy)
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:30 PM (Vy81P)
I actually exchanged emails with him once. I sent him an email (this was back in '99 or 2000) thanking him for his books. He sent back a formish like letter first. I was fine with that. Then he sent me another email saying that he was sorry he had sent me a form letter when I had complimented him on his work.
Seemed like a stand-up guy.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2016 09:33 PM (iHjB5)
Posted by: AltonJackson at March 02, 2016 09:33 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 02, 2016 09:34 PM (rwI+c)
Hillary is seen in the background, briefly, dressed in a black, hooded robe. She cackles and disappears in a "poof" of black smoke.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 09:34 PM (FsuaD)
Hillary says, "hey nerd -- will you set up an email server for me?"
Nerd says, "sure, boss."
He has no idea what her plan is. I don't see how they prove anything against HIM, especially since he used the Lois Lerner back up system for his emails.
I would imagine his lawyer gave him a big jar of SHUT-THE-FUCK-UP and good luck proving he knew anything.
But again, I'm not a lawyer, so I could be way off-base here.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:34 PM (AkOaV)
Sure seems like someone could make their career by prosecuting a presidential candidate during an election. Any takers?
==
I bet there are tons of career prosecutors/ wannabe future politicians who would kill to hang Hilary's scalp on their belt.
But they don't get to make the call about whether or not the prosecute here.
Posted by: looking closely at March 02, 2016 09:34 PM (hoiM7)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 02, 2016 09:34 PM (1ijHg)
Posted by: Splunge at March 02, 2016 09:35 PM (iMxBJ)
I'm guessing Megyn's been shopping her resume around which is why the new hair style.
Trump knocked Fox on it's azz.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 02, 2016 09:35 PM (Xo1Rt)
I have a vague recollection that Grace Lee Whitney, yes, Yeoman Janice Rand herself, hit a post-Trek personal low point and ended up turning tricks to pay the bills.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2016 09:32 PM (noWW6)
Go on...
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 09:35 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 09:35 PM (UmCLB)
Constitutionally, I could envision a clearance that was only for members of congress, and another clearance that was only for Supreme Court Justices.
Since we're supposed to have three branches of government and shit.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 02, 2016 09:35 PM (6FqZa)
Awesome!
Josephistan
Hes pretty much my fave SW author, but since I met Micheal and he wrote more books, I kinda lean to him lol..
I got I-Jedi and Rogue Squad signed.
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:35 PM (Vy81P)
Cool. Only SW author I've met was Timothy Zahn. Got him to sign about a dozen books.
Posted by: Josephistan at March 02, 2016 09:32 PM (7qAYi)
I'll admit, I'm mildly jealous.
I lost the 3rd book in the first Thrawn series, and am too non-Nerdy now to buy it again.
But I've re-read the first 2 a few times. :-D
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:36 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 02, 2016 09:36 PM (1ijHg)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 02, 2016 09:36 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 02, 2016 09:36 PM (jV8Mq)
How about having one of the brand's prime time marquee names lose custody of his kids due to domestic violence issues? On top of his previous very expensive sexual harassment allegations?
Wondering which one of the lower-tier Fox names is going to be hastily promoted to fill the seat of Falafel O'Blowhard. Please, gawd, not Hairaldo.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2016 09:36 PM (noWW6)
How is Ted going to get people to eventually vote for him with thuggishness and gloating?
Hopefully you get a President Cruz but you are using the same tactics that you loathed in Palin supporters.
Oh well.
Posted by: Chris Christie Feats of Strength at March 02, 2016 09:00 PM (mcm0N)
wat?
Posted by: redbanzai at March 02, 2016 09:37 PM (NPofj)
I've notice that Hilldabeast has been wearing very bulky, padded tops. Looks like something you'd wear when training guard dogs. Maybe it's her hobby
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 02, 2016 09:37 PM (45oDG)
>> black, hooded robe. She cackles and disappears in a "poof"
>> of black smoke.
You forgot the cloud of hairpins.
Posted by: JEM at March 02, 2016 09:37 PM (o+SC1)
He's dirty as they come and I have no doubt he is as complicit cause he's a true believer.... and State has been shown to be a thicket of ideologues and sycophants who are all too willing to bend to make their dreamy ideas come true
and undermine GOP administrations.
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 09:37 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Splunge at March 02, 2016 09:37 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 02, 2016 09:37 PM (rwI+c)
He has no idea what her plan is. I don't see how they prove anything
against HIM, especially since he used the Lois Lerner back up system for
his emails.
====
Who knows what they have on this guy. They may have him for facilitating illegal transfer or classified material. Perhaps they have him for something totally unrelated (eg growing weed in his basement).
Maybe they have nothing on him, but just as a prerequisite for his cooperation, he wanted a grant of total immunity, "just in case".
Posted by: looking closely at March 02, 2016 09:38 PM (hoiM7)
Wondering which one of the lower-tier Fox names is going to be hastily promoted to fill the seat of Falafel O'Blowhard. Please, gawd, not Hairaldo.
Melissa Hairbrain-Perry?
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 02, 2016 09:38 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:38 PM (AkOaV)
Awesome!
Josephistan
Hes pretty much my fave SW author, but since I met Micheal and he wrote more books, I kinda lean to him lol..
I got I-Jedi and Rogue Squad signed.
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:35 PM (Vy81P)
I liked a few of his fantasy works:
Talion
Once a Hero
His superhero book "In Hero Years... I'm Dead", was also pretty good.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2016 09:38 PM (iHjB5)
Posted by: torquewrench
Gutfeld has been sufficiently towing the GOPe line since he left Red-Eye, so he may be eyeing that spot.
Certainly not Weepy Shep
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:38 PM (Vy81P)
wat?
Posted by: redbanzai at March 02, 2016 09:37 PM (NPofj)
Uh yeah, wat? Someone hasn't been paying attention.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 09:39 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 02, 2016 09:36 PM (rwI+c)
Psst, buddy, do you want to meet me in Ft Marcy Park at midnight, or are we clear on what happens next?
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 02, 2016 09:39 PM (wYnyS)
Tantaros?
My fantasy life just took a dark and exciting new twist.
Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 09:39 PM (UmCLB)
Holly molly them's some pretty women.
Posted by: Kreplach at March 02, 2016 09:40 PM (ILoaF)
Simply, did you not read about Sen. Lindsey Graham's statement?
Cruz will be embraced as the anti-Trump.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 02, 2016 09:40 PM (1ijHg)
Posted by: Josephistan at March 02, 2016 09:40 PM (7qAYi)
i'd at least want to see this claimed confession. it seems preposterous, so at least it would have political value, proving the corruption.
An IT guy claiming he set up an illegal server -- for his own purposes!
Posted by: ace at March 02, 2016 09:40 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 02,
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This is what I expect too. I have become so cynical and jaded.
Posted by: L, Elle at March 02, 2016 09:40 PM (2GjZZ)
He's sounding like Jonah Goldberg.
I always thought Greg was cool and antiestablishment.
I guess he finally found his price.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 02, 2016 09:40 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 02, 2016 09:38 PM (oVJmc)
That kind of career advancement sure worked for Juan Williams.
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 02, 2016 09:40 PM (wYnyS)
You forgot the cloud of hairpins.
Posted by: JEM at March 02, 2016 09:37 PM (o+SC1)
I LOLed. Thanks for that.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 02, 2016 09:40 PM (jV8Mq)
Posted by: Josephistan
*waves hand* There WAS no Episode I
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:40 PM (Vy81P)
she instructed that other guy to "send insecure"
she's a felon
Posted by: Feh at March 02, 2016 09:40 PM (Uk9e2)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:41 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Hillary's floundering campaign at March 02, 2016 09:41 PM (12kBq)
Posted by: cheri at March 02, 2016 09:41 PM (ylAck)
Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 09:41 PM (UmCLB)
So I think it's safe to say we can, at this time, dispense with this bit of fantasia.
Posted by: Kreplach at March 02, 2016 09:41 PM (ILoaF)
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:41 PM (Vy81P)
So Ailes wants Fox News to push this or that candidate, over and above reporting the news. So all the left wing critics are correct, then, when they accuse Fox of full-time partisan hackery. I can't think of anything worse Ailes could possibly say that would more damaging to the brand.
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 02, 2016 09:28 PM (vmzNL)
I have no idea if this is true or not, but I saw a comment on another blog saying that Fox is going to start pushing Romney as The Man Who Can Unite The GOP.
If true, that will be the death knell for both Fox and the GOP.
Posted by: rickl at March 02, 2016 09:41 PM (sdi6R)
in a black, hooded robe. She cackles and disappears in a "poof" of black
smoke.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 09:34 PM (FsuaD)
Hillary doesn't do wetwork. Like Ernst Stavro Blofled, she has minions who do that for her while she sits in her wheel chair and absently strokes the head of Billy Jeff who mumbles vacantly, crouching submissively at her side.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 02, 2016 09:41 PM (q2o38)
Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2016 09:32 PM (noWW6)
Whitney did indeed go through some rough times after her stint on TOS, but I don't think she ever was reduced to prostitution.
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 02, 2016 09:41 PM (vmzNL)
server was set up before she was SOS, and how would he know she was going to use that as her only email?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:42 PM (AkOaV)
He's been quite level headed in his support of Cruz. Hardly a troll at all.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 09:42 PM (pUDQf)
Let's remind ourselves that the Congress circa 1973 had no earthly idea that Richard Nixon had a private Oval Office taping system set up, until low-level flunky Alex Butterfield panicked and blurted it out under questioning.
Then, of course, a whole bunch of new questions began to be asked about what exactly was on those previously unknown tapes.
Go after little fish aggressively. They lead to big catches.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2016 09:42 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 02, 2016 09:42 PM (Xo1Rt)
Sounds like they need an community organizer.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 02, 2016 09:42 PM (45oDG)
Posted by: Feh at March 02, 2016 09:40 PM (Uk9e2)
This right here. The "The IT guy did it all!" thing is a lot harder to sell when you've got emails saying things like "Strip out the headers and send it unsecure"
Posted by: Vanya Secundus at March 02, 2016 09:42 PM (v+nYp)
Next up: Mitch.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 02, 2016 09:42 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: davidt at March 02, 2016 09:42 PM (8aOqE)
Posted by: Dave S. at March 02, 2016 09:43 PM (mhkbv)
Jeri Ryan
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:43 PM (Vy81P)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 02, 2016 09:36 PM (rwI+c)
That dog won't hunt when they already have emails of her telling staff to strip documents of their top secret marking before emailing them... the guy wouldn't be immune for perjury charges.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 02, 2016 09:43 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: rickl at March 02, 2016 09:41 PM (sdi6R)
::looks up from banging nails in a coffin::
Fox? Oh yeah, totally fucked.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:43 PM (AkOaV)
I care (for now) but big government truly makes the person smaller -----Dennis Prager
Posted by: Seems legit at March 02, 2016 09:43 PM (xEZkG)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:42 PM (AkOaV)
he set it up during the campaign, and then she hired him to work IT at State. he maintained the system
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:43 PM (zOTsN)
-Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:38 PM (Vy81P)
Has he? Or haven't you watched his show? I'm going to cut this down at its sprout. He's on Sunday nights at ten.
If you think he's an "establishment shill", you're doing this "Fact Thing" all wrong.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 02, 2016 09:43 PM (OQ9R7)
Well. I got a Blue Screen I'd like to give you as a token of appreciation for all you've done for me.
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 02, 2016 09:43 PM (GOYpy)
>>> The risk, or scam, is the grant the IT immunity and then
have him confess that it was all his doing. Hillary knew nothing.
===
Don't think that would work.
Either Hilary mishandled classified material or she didn't. "I didn't know I was mishandling it" not only isn't a defense, its an admission of negligence and guilt.
Posted by: looking closely at March 02, 2016 09:43 PM (hoiM7)
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:43 PM (Vy81P)
So I think it's safe to say we can, at this time, dispense with this bit of fantasia.
Posted by: Kreplach at March 02, 2016 09:41 PM (ILoaF)
Even if she went to prison, 40% of the country would still vote for her
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 02, 2016 09:43 PM (45oDG)
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Wait, wut? Is this for reelz? BOR lost custody of his kids and beat his wife up? I thought he was still married. Not that surprised. He has always seemed unhinged and generally an asshole.
Posted by: L, Elle at March 02, 2016 09:44 PM (2GjZZ)
Ailes says Fox is done with Mario.
Things that make you say hmmm.
The Hildebeast link is a twitter page that apparently doesn't exist.
Posted by: Hank at March 02, 2016 09:44 PM (xVYeR)
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 09:44 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Spartacus at March 02, 2016 09:45 PM (Y8P5w)
Posted by: IC at March 02, 2016 09:45 PM (zK6nG)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 09:45 PM (pUDQf)
Vice Kwisatz Haderach for starters?
Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 09:41 PM (UmCLB)
Nope... there is no vice-"the one"
Posted by: redbanzai at March 02, 2016 09:45 PM (NPofj)
So I think it's safe to say we can, at this time, dispense with this bit of fantasia.
Posted by: Kreplach at March 02, 2016 09:41 PM (ILoaF)
Probably you're right. Looks like there would be some pissed-off people in the FBI then, though. They might have some fun things to leak.
Posted by: Splunge at March 02, 2016 09:45 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 02, 2016 09:45 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2016 09:46 PM (8PbKi)
Posted by: davidt at March 02, 2016 09:42 PM (8aOqE)
Slick promised Barry a hot young piece of ass. Wait till Barry finds out he meant a girl
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 02, 2016 09:46 PM (45oDG)
remember he set up the server, but her aides all used it and used it to transmit classified after stripping off the markings
read the article attached in the tweet, at the very end
the State department is nit being fulsome. They are advising whether the informaitonin the emails is classified NOW, but they will NOT advise as to whether it was classified when SENT
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:46 PM (zOTsN)
He's no sell-out to the GOPe.
Jeeze, people.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 09:47 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Buffalbob at March 02, 2016 09:47 PM (8nL8o)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T)
I couldn't stand his show after trying to like it for a month to 6weeks, so I haven't seen it.
But maybe you haven't seen The Five where he was all in on the "Cruz Lies!!" etc?? Cause thats what I was going with, and other things he was doing there before that.
Hes mostly on level with me, but he certainly changed recently and at the least isn't objecting to the BS spewed.
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:47 PM (Vy81P)
Posted by: redbanzai
You remind me a great deal of another great man and brilliant thinker . He said something very similar.
" If you're not first. you're last."
Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 09:47 PM (UmCLB)
Posted by: davidt at March 02, 2016 09:47 PM (8aOqE)
He's no sell-out to the GOPe.
Jeeze, people."
-Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 09:47 PM (FsuaD)
Thank you, Ma'am.
*doffs cap*
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 02, 2016 09:48 PM (OQ9R7)
There is no such thing as "her own money" with Hillary. Every dime she has she extorted or stole from someone.
Posted by: Aviator at March 02, 2016 09:48 PM (c7vUv)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:43 PM (zOTsN)
so, he pushed out some critical updates to her private email server -- which for all he knew was for her... you know, private emails. Which, unfortunately, is not illegal.
387 Harry, I thought the server was set up during the Obama Inaguration Administration in Nov-Dec 08 and it was a modified version of what Bill already had set up for Skype chats to pedo island?
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 09:44 PM (e7T6D)
I think it predates Obama admin.
As for Skype for Business -- something else I've pointed out -- Hillary and co IMed people with state.gov accounts as far as we know.
Which means State Department IT people federated her domain. Which means this "conspiracy" runs much deeper than one guy.
But still -- dont see how any of that is illegal, per se, unless there is something in writing saying, "Dear, Miss Rodham-C, here is your new server to help you smuggle classified information. love, the nerds."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:48 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 09:48 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:41 PM
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Harry, I have seen him on the blog this last week. He may have sent in a pet pic, but I can't give out his contact info without his explicit permission. Sorry, I hope you understand that.
Posted by: L, Elle at March 02, 2016 09:48 PM (2GjZZ)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 02, 2016 09:49 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:49 PM (Vy81P)
I can't decide which is worse: having to sell one's body on the cheap to skeezy strangers, or a Shatner spoken-word album.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2016 09:49 PM (noWW6)
DOJ GRANTS IMMUNITY TO HILLARY CLINTON TO DETERMINE WHO SUGGESTED CLINTON SHOULD SET UP PRIVATE SERVER
Posted by: Nothing To See Here Headlines, Inc. at March 02, 2016 09:49 PM (1CroS)
Not a big deal, I guess, but if any of you regular morons see him, can you tell him I was looking?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:49 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Sporktapus at March 02, 2016 09:49 PM (FkBIv)
Jeri Ryan
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:43 PM (Vy81P)
From what I remember it was Barry's campaign via the Chicago Tribune demanding the divorce records be released. Then she got involved. No one heard of Barry before that and Jack Ryan probably could have won. Barry had a history of sleazy campaign tactics to get rid of his opponents.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 02, 2016 09:49 PM (45oDG)
Disagreeing and "Establishment Shill" are worlds apart.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 02, 2016 09:49 PM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 09:49 PM (UmCLB)
I don't see there's even a debate over whether Trump promises fascism (as Goldberg defined the term, before Obama was even a thing). Trump does promise fascism. The question before the country is whether it's time we had another of those Bismarck fans, another Theodore Roosevelt.
Perhaps we do need a classical tyrant here. I'm open to the argument: Peisistratos did pretty well by Athens, after all. But Trump isn't Peisistratos.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 02, 2016 09:49 PM (6FqZa)
Trumpbot is not endearing. Just sayin'
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 09:48 PM (e7T6D)
Sorry. I call my son a "Trumpbot" and he has no problem with it. *kicks son in ass*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 09:50 PM (FsuaD)
***
I think it should go without saying, every.time. that "Trumpkin" and "Trumpbot" does not apply to all Trump supporters, only to those who insist on being jackasses about it.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2016 09:50 PM (8PbKi)
Posted by: L, Elle at March 02, 2016 09:48 PM (2GjZZ)
Okay, understood.
It's not an emergency or anything, just trying to get in touch with him about something. If you could let him know I've been trying to talk to him to ask him a favor, I'd appreciate it. (I think he'll have an inkling what the favor is)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:50 PM (AkOaV)
My apologies to redbanzai.
I am guilty of scanning the comments and failing to read the details.
welcome. and you too alabama.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 02, 2016 09:50 PM (1ijHg)
he set up the server in her home in NY in 2009, when she was already Sec State
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:51 PM (zOTsN)
Been like this at least 6 mo or so..
So, if not a GOPe shill, then at least knows his marching orders from his network.
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:51 PM (Vy81P)
Posted by: cheri at March 02, 2016 09:52 PM (ylAck)
Posted by: Josey Wales at March 02, 2016 09:52 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 02, 2016 09:46 PM (45oDG)
Har de har har. The trouble is, TFG isn't motivated by his balls. The reason for this is that he doesn't have any.
Slick, on the other hand...
All Obama would have to do is set The Priapic One up with a blond hottie with big hooters and he'd travel the entire country doing whatever he'd ask him to do.
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 02, 2016 09:52 PM (vmzNL)
Posted by: Draki at March 02, 2016 09:52 PM (lNK80)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:50 PM
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Sure thing. I am certain that everyone else here who bumps into him will pass that on as well. No problem
Posted by: L, Elle at March 02, 2016 09:53 PM (2GjZZ)
he set up the server in her home in NY in 2009, when she was already Sec State
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:51 PM (zOTsN)
So he must have been an appointee to the State Department, rather than a career Commo guy. A career would never have set something like that up, because he would have known that it would be compromising security. If he was an outsider, and didn't do the OPSEC course, then he has "plausible deniability". Which may be why Hilary had him do it, rather than go through Commo channels.
Posted by: Moki at March 02, 2016 09:53 PM (7q2ch)
he worked on her campaign in 2008
he set up the server in her home in NY in 2009, when she was already Sec State
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:51 PM (zOTsN)
WTF does it take to be indicted now? Hell, I get a full gyno exam by the TSA EVERY SINGLE TIME I FLY. Can't wait for next Friday.
Jeebus, I hate this government. And fuck you, NSA goons.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 09:53 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:53 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: L, Elle at March 02, 2016 09:53 PM (2GjZZ)
Thanks much!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:54 PM (AkOaV)
I recall Goldbrick having been quite the cheerleader for George W. Bush's repeated ridiculous attempts to turn Kabul into Kokomo, and Anbar into Ann Arbor.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2016 09:54 PM (noWW6)
he deleted his computer files from the time he worked for Clinton
on Dec 11, 2015 the FBI seized his computers and said they had recovered the deleted files
they know EXACTLY who directed him and why
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:54 PM (zOTsN)
So, if not a GOPe shill, then at least knows his marching orders from his network.
Posted by: JarvisW
FOX is still processing who will replace Rubio as their golden boy.
I expect a primetime interview of Jim Gilmore by Meggynn any day now.
Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 09:54 PM (UmCLB)
If he was a real nerd, he'd know how to get rid of any evidence.
Just sayin'.
:-D
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:55 PM (AkOaV)
on Dec 11, 2015 the FBI seized his computers and said they had recovered the deleted files
This is why you use a drill press to "delete" your files.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 02, 2016 09:55 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 09:55 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 09:56 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 09:56 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:56 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:56 PM (zOTsN)
Maybe they should ask the legally blind guy to look. He did a great job with the Lerner emails.
/
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 09:57 PM (AkOaV)
I saw a picture of Trump sticking out his chin juxtaposed with a picture of Mussolini, jutting out his chin.
I had been thinking that Trump could be the next Mussolini.
Now I think that I have been brainwashed to think that.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 02, 2016 09:57 PM (1ijHg)
-Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 02, 2016 09:49 PM (6FqZa)
Our local A.M. radio, (1100 WTAM), blowtorch has a guy who thinks like that. Mike Trivosonno, (afternoons, 3-7), thinks that the Mafia should be called-in to "fix" mosques and such.
*cough*
I'm going to go ahead and disagree.
...but only slightly.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 02, 2016 09:57 PM (OQ9R7)
Jane D'oh... I typed it with a smile. You have cred with me and I'm not
offended- offended... though you did say you tried to change your sons
mind on Trump. I'm glad he's home and safe.
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 09:55 PM (e7T6D)
Here's a hug, hon. {{{{{hug}}}}}
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 09:58 PM (FsuaD)
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"A remarkable and totally unexpected development today... the conservative base seems to be trending in favor of Ted Cruz. This move comes as a total surprise."
Posted by: M. Kelly at March 02, 2016 09:58 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Timon at March 02, 2016 09:59 PM (KSonr)
Posted by: Moki
And if she/they didn't tell him what it was for?
For all we know she told him,"Hey, set up a server for the Clintoon Foundation. Here's a list of email accounts."
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 02, 2016 09:59 PM (A/3fN)
-Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:51 PM (Vy81P)
Sunday nights at 10:00. That is all I have to say about that.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 02, 2016 09:59 PM (OQ9R7)
February 25 at 8:42pm ·
go back to rubio/trump. it's the only fight that matters right now. its the clearest battle, and most important contrast.
Greg Gutfeld
February 25 at 8:57pm ·
i guess rubio doesn't merit inclusion in this. CNN.
Ok, you got me..
AND, he's STILL the most like me on that network, I'm just sick of it all, and only watch Red-Eye for Andy etc.
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:59 PM (Vy81P)
NOT when they were transmitted
State did NOT send over any past files from when he was working for Hillary, nor did they require he back up any such materials
the FBI did take his computers and they did recover the deleted files
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 09:59 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Mongoose at March 02, 2016 09:59 PM (pni7x)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 09:56 PM (FsuaD)
They are stuck between a socialist loony and a criminal. How do you choose?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 10:00 PM (pUDQf)
At least it wasn't Trumptoid. Trumphumper, Trumpaluhmpa, Trumptard, etc, etc, etc,
Trumpbot is so close to being a human being.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. SSDD at March 02, 2016 10:00 PM (WVsWD)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 02, 2016 10:00 PM (GgxVX)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 02, 2016 09:43 PM (45oDG)
She wouldn't be the first person to run from federal prison. Eugene Debs ran as a socialist in 1920 from the Atlanta Federal Penitentiary and got 3.4% of the vote.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 02, 2016 10:00 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: cheri at March 02, 2016 10:01 PM (ylAck)
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I'll tell you who has a great Mussolini chin: Obozo.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 02, 2016 10:01 PM (Nwg0u)
How about you cover the news instead of being a kingmaker?
Posted by: Lizzy at March 02, 2016 10:02 PM (NOIQH)
go through a shit load of training and signed a lot of acknowledgements
that all security protocols would be maintained. He can't claim
ignorance. 10 years at minimum in the pokey thus immunity.
Posted by: cheri at March 02, 2016 09:52 PM (ylAck)
He may have ran a little yellow CAT6 cable from the SCIF to Hillery's personal laptop.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 02, 2016 10:02 PM (T78UI)
-Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:59 PM (Vy81P)
That's okay, amigo! I can dig it, Sir!
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 02, 2016 10:03 PM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 02, 2016 10:01 PM (Nwg0u)
it does make for a great target when he does that
Posted by: Reggie Love at March 02, 2016 10:03 PM (12kBq)
IT guys knowledge
if he didnt know what she was using it for, then why did he try and delete all his files from the period he worked for her
and why did he plead the fifth
remember the had to get the material OFF the classified computer in foggy bottom in the first place, and would have had to made physical copies and removed them to do so
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 10:03 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Zombie Adolf H at March 02, 2016 10:03 PM (8aOqE)
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 10:04 PM (Vy81P)
They ask him questions about stuff and compare his answers to what they know. They ask him to implicate others... others they've already talked to. He's in a world of hurt and unfortunately he's expendable. I've seen this kinda drama in movies.... I swear.
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 10:04 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 02, 2016 10:05 PM (NOIQH)
"For the record, I find my colleague John Derbyshire's piece
fundamentally indefensible and offensive. I wish he hadn't written it."
Johnah Goldberg is a clown and poseur.
Posted by: Kreplach at March 02, 2016 10:05 PM (ILoaF)
Trump was caught off guard last time and that won't happen again.
Trump is either going to eat Rubio alive tomorrow night or, worse, he'll let him ramble on then dismiss him as being "cute".
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2016 10:06 PM (8PbKi)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 10:03 PM (zOTsN)
well, if he did that, then yeah he's fucked.
Sounds like Mrs Weiner and Miss Mills did the wet work though
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 10:06 PM (AkOaV)
Except for her not winning the presidency (fingers crossed).
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 10:06 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 10:07 PM (e7T6D)
Sounds like Mrs Weiner and Miss Mills did the wet work though
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 02, 2016 10:06 PM (AkOaV)
And guess who'll go down for their queen?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 10:07 PM (FsuaD)
You think he'd do that for her? Narcissists aren't good at forgiving stuff like running against them. Guessing he still kind of hates her.
Posted by: Splunge at March 02, 2016 10:08 PM (iMxBJ)
And if she/they didn't tell him what it was for?
For all we know she told him,"Hey, set up a server for the Clintoon Foundation. Here's a list of email accounts."
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 02, 2016 09:59 PM (A/3fN)
For the SecState to ask for a private server may not be unheard of, but if she asked a State Commo guy to set it up, he/she would be cautious about moving ahead-their career is on the line either way-but as yet, she can't send them to jail, and violating security protocols can. Which is why this Pagliani NOT being a career commo guy makes sense.
We used to have OPSEC drilled into us from the moment we joined. And a commenter upthread (I think) mentioned being a Marine who checked for improperly secured classified material. That happens at embassies, consulates, and at the Department. Marines and Department of Security officers go through offices looking for unsecured classified material. If you screwed up and left something out, or didn't properly lock a safe, you were in for pain. Especially if it was a second or third offense. That would get you unpaid vacation time, and a lack of promotion.
So yeah, if he was truly State, he wouldn't risk his job like that, unless he was either an idiot, or promised something big.
Posted by: Moki at March 02, 2016 10:08 PM (7q2ch)
Did he ever once have to answer a direct question about it?
When Axelrod (spokesman) was asked in 2008 about it, part of his answer was that the campaign was "flattered".
Posted by: Mega at March 02, 2016 10:08 PM (JwLCI)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 10:09 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 10:09 PM (0LHZx)
Maybe they can crack him because he hasn't been employed by the Clintons for 20+ years like most of her closest aides...
Posted by: Lizzy at March 02, 2016 10:10 PM (NOIQH)
And guess who'll go down for their queen?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 10:07 PM (FsuaD)
There are some really gross connotations with that sentence.
Mind bleach needed.
Posted by: Moki at March 02, 2016 10:10 PM (7q2ch)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse
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Idk. Trump is so lazy. I doubt he will come in prepared with an actual retort ready. Cruz is going to be the one who puts Rubio away. Trump will mostly just point out that Mario has only one win and is behind in polls in his home state. Cruz has to take Rubio out to get a shot at winning Florida.
Posted by: L, Elle at March 02, 2016 10:10 PM (2GjZZ)
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 10:10 PM (Vy81P)
"There is no bigger orange these days than Donald Trump."
yeah, sure, but it is getting little moldy on the top.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 02, 2016 10:10 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 10:11 PM (0LHZx)
*makes a note in 'TV Appearances by Loathsome People File'*
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 02, 2016 10:11 PM (9mTYi)
good at forgiving stuff like running against them. Guessing he still
kind of hates her.
Posted by: Splunge at March 02, 2016 10:08 PM (iMxBJ)
I'd be willing to bet that with Barry's formerly insecure Blackberry (that the SS wanted him to give up and he refused) and all the e-mails he and the Beast exchanged, he'd open himself up to a slew of crap himself.
I'd love to see them both in orange jumpsuits, but the chance of it happening to his Commie ass is never.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 10:11 PM (FsuaD)
And here's the thing.
DAVID DUKE NEVER ENDORSED DONALD TRUMP!
It's a wholly made up bullshit non-story.
Every four fucking years the media brings out David Duke to hang around the neck of the GOP candidate.
Hell they asked McCain about Duke in 2008.
This is boilerplate MSM/Donk agitprop bullshit.
Posted by: Kreplach at March 02, 2016 10:12 PM (ILoaF)
Posted by: Bebe Rebozo at March 02, 2016 10:12 PM (12kBq)
Who would and/or could do that?
Posted by: davidt at March 02, 2016 10:12 PM (8aOqE)
Did he ever once have to answer a direct question about it?
When Axelrod (spokesman) was asked in 2008 about it, part of his answer was that the campaign was "flattered".
Posted by: Mega at March 02, 2016 10:08 PM (JwLCI)
THIS is why we are so much at cross purposes with the left. We literally have completely different views on reality. To most of us, Hamas is pretty much the same as ISIS (I always use ISIS as what all of the terrorist views want to be when they get grown up.) The difference is only by a matter of degree, not of kind.
For them, they see Hamas as some sort of homegrown freedom fighters. *sigh* And watch, I am sure within a couple of months or years, we will be hearing about how ISIS is not that bad.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2016 10:12 PM (iHjB5)
I've made this a thing I follow in detail.
So I wish people who post here who have no knowledge or experience of criminal law or procedure would STFU and not give ignorant and misleading opinions about such. You're worse than spam. Seriously, STFU.
I'm a lawyer but recognize that I'm not a criminal lawyer. e.g., FBI types may have insights that I don't have. Real insight welcome. That's why I post about this in the detail that I know.
Comments that "She'll never be indicted" don't add. If you've got real questions or insight go at it. Collectively we're smarter than any one of us, myself included. But if you don't have anything to add SHUT UP, you're noise.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 02, 2016 10:13 PM (rs5De)
Posted by: Kreplach at March 02, 2016 10:05 PM (ILoaF)
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He didn't used to be. Something happened to him circa 2006.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 10:13 PM (0LHZx)
Naturally, they are too fucking cowardly to spit out what they are trying to say.
http://bit.ly/1QMVJqI
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2016 10:13 PM (8PbKi)
Posted by: IC at March 02, 2016 10:14 PM (zK6nG)
Posted by: SFGoth at March 02, 2016 10:14 PM (dZ756)
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No.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 02, 2016 10:14 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: the gypsy woman at March 02, 2016 10:15 PM (rwI+c)
criminal law or procedure would STFU and not give ignorant and
misleading opinions about such. You're worse than spam. Seriously,
STFU.
Well, thank you for that. I didn't realize the HQ was here for lawyers only.
I guess the rest of us unwashed plebes should go elsewhere.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 10:15 PM (FsuaD)
he was a campaign volunteer for her in 2008
then when she became Sec State in 2009 she hired him to assist her at State
she paid him privately and off the books to set up the home brew server. he never reported that additional income
Huma and Mills also used the server as did some guy named Jacobs who is going to be her NSA cheif if she is elected
it does look like Huma and Mills did the wet wotk to get the hard copies off the classified systems at Foggy Bottom
when quiried State said they didnt have any of his work emails from when Clinton was at State Looks like someone deleted all those emails
the FBI seized his computers and recovered the deleted emails
in addition I think he is the one that sent the server to storage for Hillary
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 10:16 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: the gypsy dude at March 02, 2016 10:16 PM (8aOqE)
Posted by: scorecard at March 02, 2016 10:16 PM (CRXed)
Nah, we just wanted to let him skate.
Posted by: Your FBI at March 02, 2016 10:17 PM (w/iDp)
insecure Blackberry (that the SS wanted him to give up and he refused)
and all the e-mails he and the Beast exchanged, he'd open himself up to a
slew of crap himself.
I'd love to see them both in orange jumpsuits, but the chance of it happening to his Commie ass is never.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 10:11 PM (FsuaD)
Kind of odd that Bammy and his Sec of State never exchanged e-mails...
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 02, 2016 10:17 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 02, 2016 10:17 PM (xInes)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 02, 2016 10:17 PM (Nwg0u)
I have no faith in justice on this earth.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 02, 2016 10:17 PM (AroJD)
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 02, 2016 10:13 PM (rs5De)
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FOAD
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 02, 2016 10:18 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 09:59 PM (Vy81P)
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Hi!
All I can read anymore is headlines and Hillarymail news. I'm really into the email thing, but everything else I just want to jump under the covers and not come out until the winner is announced in November -- at which point I might want to jump back under the covers.
Posted by: iforgot at March 02, 2016 10:18 PM (5o5ek)
I know... I know. They are intent on making sure most of America believes that he or any R has the endorsement of the KKK.
Meanwhile they erect statues of Bobby Byrd... and their current candidate is "in awe of" Margaret 'kill all the negroes' Sanger. And they cheer the deaths of mostly minority babies. Truly upside-down land.
Posted by: Mega at March 02, 2016 10:18 PM (JwLCI)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 10:18 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: cheri at March 02, 2016 10:18 PM (ylAck)
It probably runs the gamut from "too much trouble to file the papers" to "I'll go down too"
It's probably not a conspiracy, just no-one with the responsibility feels it is their best interest to act. The sad thing is that it would be good for the country and the rule of law, but that is apparently not considered as being important.
Anyways, that's my 15 seconds of gloom.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 02, 2016 10:19 PM (q2o38)
Posted by: Jane
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I saw Unwashed Plebes open for Hazing, West Point, 1971
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 02, 2016 10:19 PM (9mTYi)
And the CIA warned that the ambassador's compound wouldn't stand up to an attack and they should move to the CIA compound.
But, what difference, at this point, does it make?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 10:20 PM (FsuaD)
Oh, but they did. http://tinyurl.com/j97angy
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 02, 2016 10:20 PM (GgxVX)
OK, i took off my pants, I started drinking handles of value right, i eat road kill,....
but no fucking way I'm gonna go to law school to be a moron in good standing.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 02, 2016 10:20 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 10:20 PM (Vy81P)
Posted by: no good deed at March 02, 2016 10:21 PM (GgxVX)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 02, 2016 10:17 PM (xInes)
THIS THIS THIS
that person goes to the Big House fo sho
Now, if they give that person immunity, Shit Just Got Real cause they mean to kill the Queen
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 10:21 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 02, 2016 10:21 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: cheri at March 02, 2016 10:18 PM (ylAck)
Nothing shuts the horde up except pudding, value-rite and hobo stories.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 10:21 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 02, 2016 10:21 PM (rwI+c)
Did he ever once have to answer a direct question about it?
When Axelrod (spokesman) was asked in 2008 about it, part of his answer was that the campaign was "flattered".
Posted by: Mega at March 02, 2016 10:08 PM (JwLCI)
For real (I ain't diving into that internet dumpster again), most of the aryan nation types supported Obama too because they foolishly believed he would implement racial socialist policies that would be flipped the day after he was out of office... and they traditionally vote democrat.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 02, 2016 10:21 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: Hank at March 02, 2016 10:22 PM (xVYeR)
I read "unwashed plebes" as "unwashed pubes"
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 10:22 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 02, 2016 10:22 PM (oVJmc)
I think you choose your nic wisely.
People are here to vent, to give their opinion, to chat. It's Ace's house, not yours. You don't have the right to tell people to shut up in his house. If you don't like it, perhaps you should find another blog.
Posted by: Moki at March 02, 2016 10:22 PM (7q2ch)
All I can read anymore is headlines and Hillarymail news. I'm really into the email thing, but everything else I just want to jump under the covers and not come out until the winner is announced in November -- at which point I might want to jump back under the covers.
Posted by: iforgot at March 02, 2016 10:18 PM (5o5ek)
_____
I often envy the LIVs. I wish I were one of them. Just live life blissfully ignorant of the shit around you. It would be a lot easier.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 10:22 PM (0LHZx)
OK, i took off my pants, I started drinking handles of value right, i eat road kill,....
but no fucking way I'm gonna go to law school to be a moron in good standing.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 02, 2016 10:20 PM
Slacker.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 10:22 PM (pUDQf)
Given immunity, what will he give up? Someone directed him to set up the server -- Huma? Hillary? because he had to access Chappagua. What did he see in ongoing maintenance? At a minimum it refutes Hllary's saying that she had no intent.
And that's for openers
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 02, 2016 10:23 PM (rs5De)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 02, 2016 10:21 PM (9mTYi)
Pancake?...how about bondo?
Posted by: BignJames at March 02, 2016 10:23 PM (HtUkt)
Posted by: Gentlemen
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there is some shit i will not eat
Posted by: ee cummins at March 02, 2016 10:23 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 02, 2016 10:23 PM (Nwg0u)
DAVID DUKE NEVER ENDORSED DONALD TRUMP!
It's a wholly made up bullshit non-story.
Every four fucking years the media brings out David Duke to hang around the neck of the GOP candidate.
Hell they asked McCain about Duke in 2008.
This is boilerplate MSM/Donk agitprop bullshit.
Posted by: Kreplach at March 02, 2016 10:12 PM (ILoaF)
Was having breakfast with a pastor friend this morning, and he asked me how I could support Trump when he's a racist.
I asked how is he a racist, and the FIRST THING he brought up was Duke.
Honestly, I'm not sure he believed me when I corrected him. I think he's kinda been brainwashed by that hotheaded Latina he's married to, but that's a story for another day.
Posted by: Blano at March 02, 2016 10:23 PM (heN73)
Posted by: Moki at March 02, 2016 10:24 PM (7q2ch)
HIs attorneys most likely did a 'proffer' meeting with
DOJ attorneys and
got the guy a 'Stay out of jail card' .
The guy will likely do his best 'remembering' by doing some prodigious dumping on Huma and Cheryl Mills...who can then decide how many years they can endure separated from all things they hold dear...or not.
The 'or not' option should keep the Rodham heavy in the bottle...watch for some noticeably erratic behavior from Mrs.Clinton in the days ahead. .
Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at March 02, 2016 10:25 PM (3ZttN)
Posted by: antisocialist at March 02, 2016 10:25 PM (cDs+4)
Happy Birthday Grump928!!
Have a great day at the range!!
Posted by: Moki at March 02, 2016 10:24 PM (7q2ch)
What Moki said!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 10:25 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 02, 2016 10:25 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
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You would have to watch American Idol and Dancing With the Stars a lot. It's not all moonlight and roses.
Posted by: ee cummins at March 02, 2016 10:25 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 02, 2016 10:21 PM (rwI+c)
That's quite an initiation for a newbie. Save a drum for yourself!! Happy birthday!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 10:25 PM (pUDQf)
acting presidential and pivoting to the general election tomorrow.
Ignoring Rubio, keeping his cool and laying out his case for being the
best candidate to hammer Hillary like a pinata in November.
Posted by: IC at March 02, 2016 10:14 PM (zK6nG)
Not likely - sure he got to where he is by going simian in closed door business meetings.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 02, 2016 10:25 PM (T78UI)
This doesn't mean that an indictment is near. It does mean that this isn't a "security inquiry," or whatever that BS is, which the FBI doesn't do, but we already knew that. It tells you a little bit about where they are in the investigation, but not much else.
Posted by: Martian Wonder at March 02, 2016 10:26 PM (hxoxN)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 02, 2016 10:26 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Chi Chi at March 02, 2016 10:26 PM (8aOqE)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 10:21 PM (pUDQf)
And boobehs. Nice, big, round boobehs.
For the guys anyways. Or maybe a few of the girls too, who know.
Posted by: Blano at March 02, 2016 10:26 PM (heN73)
Posted by: Timon at March 02, 2016 10:26 PM (KSonr)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 02, 2016 10:26 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 02, 2016 10:26 PM (xInes)
but no fucking way I'm gonna go to law school to be a moron in good standing.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 02, 2016 10:20 PM
I thought all that stuff was part of the entrance exam for law school...
Posted by: antisocialist at March 02, 2016 10:27 PM (cDs+4)
Fried spam is delicious.
Free advice is worth its price.
Lighten up. In 100 years we will be laughing at this. Children playing in mud puddles. (full of dog poo)
Posted by: scorecard at March 02, 2016 10:27 PM (CRXed)
Getting old sucks ass when it comes to getting quality sleep.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 10:27 PM (FsuaD)
huge boost by Bill at the DNC. That speech lit a fire under Democrats.
"Gratitude is the least strongly felt human emotion." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 10:27 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Kreplach at March 02, 2016 10:05 PM (ILoaF)
_____
He didn't used to be. Something happened to him circa 2006.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 10:13 PM (0LHZx)
Maybe a little later. "Liberal Fascism" is a terrific book, which was published in early 2008.
It's obvious that it was intended to forestall a Hillary presidency. There is a whole chapter of quotes by her, but Obama was only mentioned a couple of times in the entire book. That must have been when Hillary seemed to be the inevitable Dem nominee.
Posted by: rickl at March 02, 2016 10:27 PM (sdi6R)
Given immunity, what will he give up? Someone directed him to set up the server -- Huma? Hillary? because he had to access Chappagua. What did he see in ongoing maintenance? At a minimum it refutes Hllary's saying that she had no intent.
And that's for openers
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 02, 2016 10:23 PM (rs5De)
1. never forget the Oliver North percedent in the Iran Contra mess. Entirely possible the it guy gets up there and says it was all me.
2. hillary and her cronies are correctly described as a cabal. no reason to assume the it guy is not in the cabal and or terrified of winding up alone in fort marcy park.
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 02, 2016 10:28 PM (vb33c)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 02, 2016 10:28 PM (rwI+c)
Catherine Herridge reported a few weeks ago that the FBI was interviewing the sources of those higher-than-top secret docs to identify not only the extent to which the info was cut/copied and pasted into emails to Hillary (i.e. compare originals to email text), but whether or not Hillary had compromised analysts in our intelligence agencies. Hillary may have essentially gotten people to spy on their own agencies by sharing info with her/her people that none of them were authorized to be "read in" on (or whatever the proper terminology is).
That.is.freaking.serious.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 02, 2016 10:28 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 02, 2016 10:28 PM (vhNJH)
oh, and there's no rules in the HQ.... 'cept be neighborly as you call someone else out.
No, I took my pants off a couple hours ago and started drinking gin. What? No, I'm not an IT guy either. heh. I did have a secret clearance for over 20 years and a career with the Government, so there's that.
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 10:28 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Timon at March 02, 2016 10:26 PM (KSonr)
You sound....turned on.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 02, 2016 10:28 PM (oVJmc)
Got him to testify, but then failed in their attempt to prosecute him.
Posted by: Hank at March 02, 2016 10:29 PM (xVYeR)
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Living is easy with eyes closed misunderstanding all you see.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 02, 2016 10:29 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Bertram
------------------
Which reminds me, dropping a couple of items off at the thrift store today, I looked through the books there (dammit! I know better...) and found a copy of Thomas Sowell's 'Black Rednecks and White Liberals'. Has anyone read it?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 02, 2016 10:29 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 10:29 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: The Donald at March 02, 2016 10:29 PM (c7vUv)
Posted by: Kreplach at March 02, 2016 10:05 PM (ILoaF)
it is really weird how the spotlight has the power to change people.
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 02, 2016 10:29 PM (vb33c)
That's Chris Stevens, of whom Hillary purports to have been a "close friend".
Not a sufficiently close friend for Stevens to have had her private e-mail address or her personal telephone number, mind you, but a "close friend" nevertheless.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2016 10:30 PM (noWW6)
Oh, the stories she would tell!
Posted by: t-bird at March 02, 2016 10:30 PM (w/iDp)
Happy birthday to you
Happy birthday to you
You are a moron
Happy birthday to youuuuhoooo!
Have fun at the range
Posted by: cheri at March 02, 2016 10:30 PM (ylAck)
My apologies to redbanzai.
I am guilty of scanning the comments and failing to read the details.
welcome. and you too alabama.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 02, 2016 09:50 PM (1ijHg)
No need to apologize and I have been here for years (long enough that everyone should know I am a CHICK damnit
-- I am glaring at you, Bama ).I still don't know what was up with that comment I wrote wat? to.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 02, 2016 10:30 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: what the hell is going on around here!? at March 02, 2016 10:30 PM (AoL85)
2. hillary and her cronies are correctly described as a cabal. no reason to assume the it guy is not in the cabal and or terrified of winding up alone in fort marcy park.
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 02, 2016 10:28 PM (vb33c)
No amount of immunity will help this guy if Screech decides to have him fitted for a nice pair of cement shoes. I'm sure he knows that, and is therefore shitting his drawers as we speak.
Posted by: antisocialist at March 02, 2016 10:30 PM (cDs+4)
***
Happy Birthday! Have fun and be safe.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2016 10:30 PM (8PbKi)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 02, 2016 10:31 PM (Nwg0u)
That.is.freaking.serious.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 02, 2016 10:28 PM (NOIQH)
that is called "need to know". its not enough to have the prperclearance, you have to have a "need to know"
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 10:31 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: LIVn la vida loco at March 02, 2016 10:31 PM (v9gSJ)
My husband's and my first date was shooting M-16's in the Kuwaiti desert after the first Gulf War. That is the way to win a woman!
Posted by: Moki at March 02, 2016 10:32 PM (7q2ch)
For the guys anyways. Or maybe a few of the girls too, who know.
Posted by: Blano at March 02, 2016 10:26 PM (heN73)
Wasn't it CAC who would say life begins with the letter G?
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 02, 2016 10:32 PM (JO9+V)
You're a great American Sean.
Posted by: The Donald at March 02, 2016 10:29 PM (c7vUv)
Well, I guess that is one way to get Hannity to stop with that voice.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 02, 2016 10:32 PM (iHjB5)
Coroner: "Yes, the tire impressions match a Rascal scooter. But the cause of death was the repeated impact of some object that left circular markings about 1.5 inches in diameter. These impacts seem to to be grouped in a roughly rectangular pattern. We are attempting to identify what could cause such markings."
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at March 02, 2016 10:32 PM (FtrY1)
I didn't know you were a chick either. I only recently found that out about NDH as well.
Posted by: Blano at March 02, 2016 10:32 PM (heN73)
It's awesome!!
Lighten up. In 100 years we will be laughing at this. Children playing in mud puddles. (full of dog poo)
Posted by: scorecard at March 02, 2016 10:27 PM (CRXed)
Heh ................. no.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at March 02, 2016 10:32 PM (zYV5P)
blissfully ignorant of the shit around you. It would be a lot easier.
I call it "relaxed at impact."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 10:32 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 02, 2016 10:32 PM (vhNJH)
Happy birthday to you
Happy birthday to you
You are a moron
Happy birthday to youuuuhoooo!
Have fun at the range
Posted by: cheri at March 02, 2016 10:30 PM (ylAck)
OR my family's birthday song:
You're older than you've ever been
And now you're even older
And now you're even older
And now you're even older,
You're older than you've ever been
And now you're even older
And now you're older still
Posted by: redbanzai at March 02, 2016 10:33 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 10:27 PM (oKE6c)
I don't know if I can go with that. But gratitude is very Western. There are many cultures in which gratitude doesn't even exist in any real way. Gratitude is more of a free will, individualistic sort of thing.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 02, 2016 10:33 PM (zc3Db)
No need to apologize and I have been here for years (long enough that everyone should know I am a CHICK damnit -- I am glaring at you, Bama ).
I still don't know what was up with that comment I wrote wat? to.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 02, 2016 10:30 PM (NPofj)
How yoooo dooooin? Lol
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 10:34 PM (pUDQf)
Catherine Herridge reported a few weeks ago that the FBI was interviewing the sources of those higher-than-top secret docs to identify not only the extent to which the info was cut/copied and pasted into emails to Hillary (i.e. compare originals to email text), but whether or not Hillary had compromised analysts in our intelligence agencies. Hillary may have essentially gotten people to spy on their own agencies by sharing info with her/her people that none of them were authorized to be "read in" on (or whatever the proper terminology is).
That.is.freaking.serious.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 02, 2016 10:28 PM (NOIQH)
seriously, everyone who knew of hillary's email server is guilty. by everyone I mean from obama down.
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 02, 2016 10:34 PM (vb33c)
in the Kuwaiti desert after the first Gulf War. That is the way to win a
woman!
Posted by: Moki at March 02, 2016 10:32 PM (7q2ch)
I will remember that should I ever be in the Kuwaiti desert with an M-16
Posted by: Kindltot at March 02, 2016 10:34 PM (q2o38)
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 02, 2016 10:34 PM (rs5De)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 02, 2016 10:26 PM (xInes)
the FBI has HER server, and HIS government computer system he used while in her employ
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 10:34 PM (zOTsN)
My husband's and my first date was shooting
M-16's in the Kuwaiti desert after the first Gulf War. That is the way
to win a woman!
Posted by: Moki at March 02, 2016 10:32 PM (7q2ch)
Do you have a daughter my son can marry some day? He'll be getting his degree in two more years and already is talking with peeps about job offersn criminal justice/gubmint work. He'll be an amazing husband and dad.
*looks around for embarrassed son*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 10:35 PM (FsuaD)
"Maybe a little later. "Liberal Fascism" is a terrific book, which was published in early 2008. "
Around that time I was at a big book store, maybe a BnN or something and asked the obvious lib if they had that, since it wasn't in the Political section, they went off and looked and said they'd have to order it.
So I asked for South Park Republicans, and he just said "never heard of it" and walked off..
Lol, I was sincerely going to buy them then! I wasn't trying to troll lol!
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 10:35 PM (Vy81P)
http://for.tn/1porr7D
Posted by: MTF at March 02, 2016 10:35 PM (TxJGV)
Posted by: Ignoramus
stay
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 10:36 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 10:27 PM (oKE6c)
I don't know if I can go with that.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 02, 2016 10:33 PM (zc3Db)
Take it up with Nick, but what human emotion is less strongly felt? The shorter version of Nick's thesis is that people will fuck people they like long before they fuck people they fear.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 10:36 PM (oKE6c)
Coroner: "Yes, the tire impressions match a Rascal scooter. But the cause of death was the repeated impact of some object that left circular markings about 1.5 inches in diameter. These impacts seem to to be grouped in a roughly rectangular pattern. We are attempting to identify what could cause such markings."
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at March 02, 2016 10:32 PM (FtrY1)
very obvious hurrycane impressions around his skull
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 02, 2016 10:36 PM (vb33c)
Have a great day at the range!!
Posted by: Moki at March 02, 2016 10:24 PM
Second ended here.
T
Posted by: Farmer at March 02, 2016 10:37 PM (o/90i)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 02, 2016 10:37 PM (xInes)
I wonder if he is talking a re-importation or just Mexican Viagra kind of stuff.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 02, 2016 10:37 PM (rwI+c)
And what are the chances you'll ever be in the Kuwaiti desert with an M-16?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 02, 2016 10:37 PM (vhNJH)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 02, 2016 10:37 PM (NOIQH)
I guess it's similar to ACLU chapters, in that a lot depends on the character of the people running the place.
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 02, 2016 10:38 PM (ntObR)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 10:38 PM (FsuaD)
TMBG!!
I post that for all my friends B-days lol.
Too bad they're hard left, their first show was for the PPK or Sandinistas or whoever, but they have some really good songs!
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 10:38 PM (Vy81P)
Did they have healthcare in Rockridge? No!
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 10:38 PM (e7T6D)
594 In Iggy's defense if I heard a bunch of people giving undeniably erroneous advice about something I was an expert in I might get a little frustrated too
*Tell me again how to fix a car*
Posted by: MAx at March 02, 2016 10:38 PM (LAliD)
Posted by: Moki
Our first date was during desert storm at Incirlik AB eating hot dogs and watching the Patriot Missile Batteries move
like rail cars on end
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 10:38 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Ignoramus
stay
Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 10:36 PM (zOTsN)
This. Seriously.
Our bark is generally worse than our bite.
Posted by: antisocialist at March 02, 2016 10:38 PM (cDs+4)
http://for.tn/1porr7D
Posted by: MTF at March 02, 2016 10:35 PM (TxJGV)
______
It's basically everything the right has been saying for years. Which is weird given Trump is a super secret communist and stuff.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 10:38 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 02, 2016 10:34 PM (rs5De)
Just breathe. Remember that injured dignity is like showing fear to the pack.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 02, 2016 10:39 PM (q2o38)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 02, 2016 10:39 PM (vb33c)
And what are the chances you'll ever be in the Kuwaiti desert with an M-16?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 02, 2016 10:37 PM (vhNJH)
I call that Thursday fun day.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 10:39 PM (pUDQf)
Do you have a daughter my son can marry some day? He'll be getting his degree in two more years and already is talking with peeps about job offersn criminal justice/gubmint work. He'll be an amazing husband and dad.
*looks around for embarrassed son*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 10:35 PM (FsuaD)
As a matter of fact , I do!!! She's a sophomore in chemistry and microbiology, and is hoping for a job with DARPA after college. She's red headed, blue eyed, and makes a damn fine pie. But she's red headed.
As a baby, she had a thing for Marines. We went to the Parade practice at Iwo Jima, and she found some poor Corporal, and grabbed his legs and wouldn't let him go.
I pray that she keeps up that attitude. (Hubby's a former Marine, so I also hope it's genetic.)
Posted by: Moki at March 02, 2016 10:39 PM (7q2ch)
Posted by: davidt at March 02, 2016 10:39 PM (8aOqE)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 02, 2016 10:39 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: MAx at March 02, 2016 10:40 PM (LAliD)
It's because most of us are Family Men... ;-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oiqiYdWXiM
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 02, 2016 10:40 PM (ntObR)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 02, 2016 10:40 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: qdpsteve
Yeah, you'd think a large commercial chain would be interested in, ya know, COMMERCE?? lol
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 10:40 PM (Vy81P)
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 10:40 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 02, 2016 10:40 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 10:40 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: MTF at March 02, 2016 10:41 PM (TxJGV)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 02, 2016 10:41 PM (A/3fN)
Posted by: Ignoramus
There isn't one.
But if you insist try LGF
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 02, 2016 10:41 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Yip
-----------
We have $8.50 left in ours.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 02, 2016 10:41 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 02, 2016 10:42 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 02, 2016 10:42 PM (xInes)
Just realize that they're are a lot of people here for a variety of reasons. It's not all serious or political all the time and many, many different conversations are going on in every thread.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 02, 2016 10:42 PM (vhNJH)
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 02, 2016 10:34 PM
----
No need to leave. There are better and more polite ways to make your point is all. There are a lot of lawyers here who you would be surprised are bc they don't make a point of mentioning it all the time. You should apologize and stick around. A lot of us have erred and crossed a line and been corrected including myself, It just a takes a little humility to realize when you have and apologize for it. If not, Legal Insurrection is probably a good blog for you on the Hilary issue.
Posted by: L, Elle at March 02, 2016 10:42 PM (2GjZZ)
I've got him on the Ouila board, right now. He can't spell for shit.
but what human emotion is less strongly felt? The shorter version of Nick's thesis is that people will fuck people they like long before they fuck people they fear.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 10:36 PM (oKE6c)
Sure. But "like" is a bit different than gratitude and there are lots of other emotions to consider. Although, as I said, many Westerners don't even seem to comprehend that there are cultures in which the concept of gratitude is almost nonexistent (such as among arabs and muslims). "Goodwill" is often as ephemeral and silly a notion in cross-cultural interactions as it is on the balance sheets of corporations.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 02, 2016 10:42 PM (zc3Db)
http://www.kethinov.com/images/startrek/TOS1x07h.png
Posted by: Darrell at March 02, 2016 10:42 PM (iAiSy)
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 02, 2016 10:34 PM (rs5De)
Why?
One of my other favorite sites is NASASpaceflight.com, but that only works if you're a space geek.
Posted by: rickl at March 02, 2016 10:42 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 10:43 PM (Vy81P)
Posted by: redbanzai at March 02, 2016 10:43 PM (NPofj)
chemistry and microbiology, and is hoping for a job with DARPA after
college. She's red headed, blue eyed, and makes a damn fine pie. But
she's red headed.
As a baby, she had a thing for Marines. We went to the Parade
practice at Iwo Jima, and she found some poor Corporal, and grabbed his
legs and wouldn't let him go.
I pray that she keeps up that attitude. (Hubby's a former Marine, so I also hope it's genetic.)
Posted by: Moki at March 02, 2016 10:39 PM (7q2ch)
Son is hoping to go into counter intelligence. Has met with "appropriate" people.
He's brown-haired and brown-eyed and the sweetest, funniest young man ever. And quite handsome, to boot.
And now I'd better STFU before this gets back to him.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 10:43 PM (FsuaD)
calling for lowering barriers to cheaper imported pharmaceuticals."
Which raises an interesting question. Our pharmaceuticals are expensive because other countries basically free-ride on us, i.e., we pay the freight for RD, and they just pay the marginal cost of production. (Analogous to theater goers paying the cost of producing a movie, pirates merely paying the cost of copying DVDs.)
If we lower the barriers, in the short term, we clobber American pharma. OTOH, American pharma is looking to bail from the US (see, e.g., Pfizer merging with Allergan and moving its legal HQ to Ireland to tell the IRS to pound sand.)
In the longer term, equilibration of prices between here and other countries could force the other countries to pay more, or else pharma will disappear as being unprofitable. Right now their health services generally constitute a monopsony, so they tell pharma what they'll pay - usually on a cost-plus basis - take it or leave it.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 10:44 PM (oKE6c)
http://for.tn/1porr7D
Posted by: MTF at March 02, 2016 10:35 PM (TxJGV)
The problem with Trump is he hasn't read it and doesn't believe it so he can't explain it on the stump. Just like all of his "positions". The guy is a fraud.
Posted by: Timon at March 02, 2016 10:44 PM (n+Zqo)
Sextoys, however, remain illegal implements of the lower levels of hell.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 10:44 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Bob Dolé at March 02, 2016 10:44 PM (7qAYi)
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 02, 2016 10:34 PM (rs5De)
yeesh, how but hurt were you and by what that you are asking if you should stay or go?
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 02, 2016 10:45 PM (vb33c)
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I'd like to see some medical malpractice reform as well.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 02, 2016 10:45 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 02, 2016 10:41 PM (voOPb)
That's just mean.
Posted by: BignJames at March 02, 2016 10:45 PM (HtUkt)
I'm so immersed in the email saga that I can't . . . . well, I can't read 24/7 but I want to, there's just too much, too much commentary and speculation, which I'm gobbling up as I can.
Posted by: iforgot at March 02, 2016 10:45 PM (5o5ek)
Posted by: redbanzai at March 02, 2016 10:46 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 02, 2016 10:46 PM (OQ9R7)
The San Bernardino jihadi terror shooter.
His co-workers threw a nice party on his behalf. Then he coldly murdered them because they were _kuffar_.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2016 10:46 PM (noWW6)
All with uncracked spines.
Posted by: richard mcenroe at March 02, 2016 10:47 PM (Kucy5)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 02, 2016 10:47 PM (A/3fN)
and there are lots of other emotions to consider.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 02, 2016 10:42 PM (zc3Db)
The point was that someone doing you a solid in the past doesn't necessarily count for much now, if the crunch really hits. Someone who could help you in the future, or could seriously hurt you in the present, takes precedence in most people's calculus. One of the innumerable reasons to be misanthropic.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 10:47 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: cheri at March 02, 2016 10:47 PM (ylAck)
Posted by: Kalneva at March 02, 2016 10:48 PM (V+9dL)
Posted by: Ignoramus
There isn't one.
But if you insist try LGF
You'll love the tankers on the horizon.
Posted by: Josephistan at March 02, 2016 10:48 PM (7qAYi)
Seriously, you'd probably like Legal Insurrection. Too bad Verum Serum is defunct.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 02, 2016 10:48 PM (EVl8U)
I just hope that Bryan Pagliano's family won't be getting a fish wrapped in a article of his clothing.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 02, 2016 10:48 PM (45oDG)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 02, 2016 10:48 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 10:48 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 02, 2016 10:37 PM (vhNJH)
Hence the use of the subjunctive (See, that BA in languages came in useful!)
. . . Would you accept "on a public range with a rolling block"?
Posted by: Kindltot at March 02, 2016 10:49 PM (q2o38)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 02, 2016 10:49 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 10:34 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: redbanzai at March 02, 2016 10:43 PM (NPofj)
Lol. One day you'll have to regale us with how red banzai became your nom de guerre. I saw banzai and saw Mr myagi. Sorry.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 10:49 PM (pUDQf)
Can you recommend a better site or two for me to blog on. Seriously happy to move on.
Posted by: Ignoramus
No need to leave.
Posted by: L, Elle
Hmmm... actually, don't think this one is going to work out.
Maybe best to just blame it on the summer night -- and the tequila -- and delete the phone number.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 02, 2016 10:49 PM (kdS6q)
Exactly, hes great at spewing stuff out, but unlike what Ace said about Carson, Trump doesn't even seem to CARE about any of the things hes about to say next.
So, he MIGHT read it, but will any of it reach his lips whenever questioned about it offhand?
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 10:49 PM (Vy81P)
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at March 02, 2016 10:49 PM (FtrY1)
Posted by: Kalneva at March 02, 2016 10:48 PM (V+9dL)
Prolly a DNS issue.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 02, 2016 10:49 PM (xInes)
I think that's not quite true. We may no longer have dry counties without a "wet" city in them but I think there are still dry counties here. For instance: Morgan County is dry but the city of Decatur is wet. It's a weird thing.
The ABC board has this map: http://bit.ly/1niELsA
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 02, 2016 10:49 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 02, 2016 10:46
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I think it's #winning!!!! He'll figure out his next plan after he is done with the winning plan.
Hey, slap.
Posted by: L, Elle at March 02, 2016 10:49 PM (2GjZZ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 02, 2016 10:49 PM (vb33c)
Posted by: SH at March 02, 2016 10:50 PM (Zf0v9)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 02, 2016 10:41 PM (voOPb)
Good choice.
I also hear that Hot Air is taking applications.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 02, 2016 10:50 PM (T78UI)
The government needs to talk to this guy to due its diligence. They can't talk to this guy without giving him "use" immunity because he has stated his intent to take the Fifth. So what this really means is that the government is now going to talk to server boy. And given the nature of the investigation, that's a no-brainer.
Posted by: Martian Wonder at March 02, 2016 10:50 PM (hxoxN)
Posted by: Baldy at March 02, 2016 10:50 PM (1SCTq)
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 10:50 PM (e7T6D)
Which raises an interesting question. Our pharmaceuticals are expensive because other countries basically free-ride on us, i.e., we pay the freight for RD, and they just pay the marginal cost of production. (Analogous to theater goers paying the cost of producing a movie, pirates merely paying the cost of copying DVDs.)
If we lower the barriers, in the short term, we clobber American pharma. OTOH, American pharma is looking to bail from the US (see, e.g., Pfizer merging with Allergan and moving its legal HQ to Ireland to tell the IRS to pound sand.)
In the longer term, equilibration of prices between here and other countries could force the other countries to pay more, or else pharma will disappear as being unprofitable. Right now their health services generally constitute a monopsony, so they tell pharma what they'll pay - usually on a cost-plus basis - take it or leave it.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 10:44 PM (oKE6c)
And the pharma companies make up for it by charging Americans exorbitantly higher prices for the same drugs, which people don't see because of third-party insurance. Karl Denninger has been hammering on this point for ages.
Posted by: rickl at March 02, 2016 10:50 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 02, 2016 10:50 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: concealedkerry or submitt at March 02, 2016 10:50 PM (kHv/o)
He released a VA reform plan a few weeks ago. It's sensible stuff. If it happens.
I hope I can be forgiven for doubting that Trump has even read these various long-winded, highly detailed "plans" that are being released on his behalf, or that he will live up to them if he has done so.
Did he read the business plan for Trump University? Trump Steaks? The Trump Shuttle? The U.S. Football League?
Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2016 10:50 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 02, 2016 10:51 PM (OQ9R7)
Download and install the EPIC browser from their site. It's Chrome, with all the bullshit taken out. No trackers, no ads.
Posted by: Darrell at March 02, 2016 10:51 PM (iAiSy)
-
It's just that we were raised by wolves and aren't house broken.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 02, 2016 10:51 PM (Nwg0u)
Ugh.
Husband sleeping like a baby on Ambien, which I can't take because AWFULNESS.
Ugh.
Going to take a second melatonin. Wish me luck.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 10:51 PM (FsuaD)
Also, no need to go. I didn't mean that!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 02, 2016 10:51 PM (EVl8U)
Under MY health care plan you ALL will receive FREE health care.
Many clinics will be conveniently located near the thorium mines and happy fun camps, ensuring ALL of you will be good enough to eat, er, I mean good enough to slave, er, I mean good enough to pay taxes!
You're welcome!
Posted by: HilFelon McRugmunch at March 02, 2016 10:51 PM (v9gSJ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 02, 2016 10:51 PM (vb33c)
I wonder if he is talking a re-importation or just Mexican Viagra kind of stuff.
I do this shit for.a living and I can tell you that the pedigree of foreign drugs is shit. If all of these other countries would require the same manufacturing standards and the same approval requirements the drugs would cost the same. The imported stuff is garbage. Don't believe the MFM bullshit.
Posted by: Timon at March 02, 2016 10:51 PM (n+Zqo)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 02, 2016 10:52 PM (rwI+c)
I can go 5 mi for Ok's 3.2 beer, OR, I can drive about 30 mi for REAL BEER!!
Sometimes I just get more 3.2 and then remember to drink faster.. Eh..
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 10:52 PM (Vy81P)
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 10:52 PM (e7T6D)
Yeah, but does it count when she does it with her own vagina? These are tough, though questions...
Posted by: Fritz at March 02, 2016 10:53 PM (37OkS)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 02, 2016 10:50 PM (rwI+c)
What a weird, wonderful state we live in. Lol
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 10:53 PM (pUDQf)
"Wasn't that a hand I saw coming out of that pot?..."
"YOU SAW NOTHING!!!!"
;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 02, 2016 10:54 PM (ntObR)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 02, 2016 10:46 PM (OQ9R7)
Can Cruz explain 'natural law'?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 02, 2016 10:54 PM (T78UI)
-Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 10:51 PM (FsuaD)
Best wishes and Godspeed, darlin'.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 02, 2016 10:54 PM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Martian Wonder
Which article has named the specific version of immunity?
The WaPo article doesn't.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 02, 2016 10:54 PM (A/3fN)
calling for lowering barriers to cheaper imported pharmaceuticals."
Which
raises an interesting question. Our pharmaceuticals are expensive
because other countries basically free-ride on us, i.e., we pay the
freight for RD, and they just pay the marginal cost of production.
(Analogous to theater goers paying the cost of producing a movie,
pirates merely paying the cost of copying DVDs.)
If we lower
the barriers, in the short term, we clobber American pharma. OTOH,
American pharma is looking to bail from the US (see, e.g., Pfizer
merging with Allergan and moving its legal HQ to Ireland to tell the IRS
to pound sand.)
In the longer term, equilibration of prices
between here and other countries could force the other countries to pay
more, or else pharma will disappear as being unprofitable. Right now
their health services generally constitute a monopsony, so they tell
pharma what they'll pay - usually on a cost-plus basis - take it or
leave it.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 10:44 PM (oKE6c)
This.
The effects of that idea would be A) drug companies limiting the availability of top tier, newly released drugs to other countries from which they could be re-imported, B) drug companies declining to invest in as many new, potentially lifesaving drugs, C) drug companies that are currently incentivised to stay in the US by strong protection against re-importation moving to other countries where production costs would be lower or D) drug companies going out of business altogether.
Likely a combination of A, B, C and D would happen.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 02, 2016 10:54 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 02, 2016 10:54 PM (xInes)
Posted by: Baldy at March 02, 2016 10:54 PM (1SCTq)
-Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 02, 2016 10:54 PM (T78UI)
Can you explain "Originalist"?
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 02, 2016 10:54 PM (OQ9R7)
Hell they asked McCain about Duke in 2008.
This is boilerplate MSM/Donk agitprop bullshit.
Righty twitter is still pushing that shit tonight, it really has been amazing to see how comfortable they are coopting the tactics of the left.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at March 02, 2016 10:54 PM (yos+4)
But the Dhims, just read:
Black Babies used for Gator Bait in Fl.
Idiocracy in tandem.
Posted by: Ralph at March 02, 2016 10:54 PM (5J1TA)
charging Americans exorbitantly higher prices for the same drugs, which
people don't see because of third-party insurance. Karl Denninger has
been hammering on this point for ages.
Posted by: rickl at March 02, 2016 10:50 PM (sdi6R)
That's it exactly. Pharma typically has around five years of patent exclusivity to recoup all of the sunk RD costs of not only that drug, but of all the other drugs that got washed out before gaining regulatory approval. And all those costs get paid by sick Americans (and their insurers), so that sick Europeans and Japanese might have cheap drugs.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 10:54 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Darrell at March 02, 2016 10:55 PM (iAiSy)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 02, 2016 10:55 PM (vhNJH)
Posted by: L, Elle at March 02, 2016 10:55 PM (2GjZZ)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 02, 2016 10:54 PM (T78UI)
Can you not be a birther?
Posted by: redbanzai at March 02, 2016 10:55 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 02, 2016 10:54 PM (xInes)
Hopefully not the War Eagle part!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 02, 2016 10:56 PM (EVl8U)
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 02, 2016 10:56 PM (ntObR)
I'm sure the republicrat congress creatures will continue to "investigate" though.
Posted by: Sandy at March 02, 2016 10:57 PM (tbyTp)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 10:51 PM (FsuaD)
Can you take benadryl?
Posted by: BignJames at March 02, 2016 10:57 PM (HtUkt)
Can Cruz explain 'natural law'?
Posted by: Burnt Toast
No. But he can explain how you score a "Rouge" in Canadian Football.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 02, 2016 10:57 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2016 10:58 PM (8PbKi)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 02, 2016 10:58 PM (vb33c)
Posted by: L, Elle at March 02, 2016 10:55 PM (2GjZZ)
So the plan works. Curves to bring them in the box car. Then the robbin happens.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 10:58 PM (pUDQf)
limiting the availability of top tier, newly released drugs to other
countries from which they could be re-imported, B) drug companies
declining to invest in as many new, potentially lifesaving drugs, C)
drug companies that are currently incentivised to stay in the US by
strong protection against re-importation moving to other countries where
production costs would be lower or D) drug companies going out of
business altogether.
Likely a combination of A, B, C and D would happen.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 02, 2016 10:54 PM (NPofj)
My guess: the likelihood is that some pharma would adopt B), and survive (albeit as a shadow of their current selves), while the remainder would adopt D).
Who would pour money into wildcatting wells when oil was cheap?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 10:58 PM (oKE6c)
I worked in Alabama for a year one time. Actually based in Atlanta but traveled GA, AL, MS, LA all over.
Always like Alabama the best. Pretty place and especially the northern part.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 02, 2016 10:58 PM (vhNJH)
-Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 02, 2016 10:57 PM (kdS6q)
-You
-Outside
-To the 55-Yard Line------>
-NOW!
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 02, 2016 10:58 PM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
Oooh, just had an idea, maybe he can convert his delegates to Canadian, he might be in the lead then!
Whats the exchange rate?
(Luv Cruz btw)
Posted by: JarvisW at March 02, 2016 10:59 PM (Vy81P)
***
Note, I haven't commented.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2016 10:59 PM (8PbKi)
Posted by: L, Elle at March 02, 2016 10:55 PM (2GjZZ)
The ettes have been through the locals like an old Sears Catalog in a Texas outhouse.
Posted by: Dan Rather at March 02, 2016 10:59 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 10:51 PM (FsuaD)
Can you take benadryl?
Posted by: BignJames at March 02, 2016 10:57 PM (HtUkt)
Forget that, can you take Irish whiskey?
Posted by: StrawMan at March 02, 2016 10:59 PM (lidp8)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 02, 2016 10:59 PM (oVJmc)
-Posted by: yankeefifth at March 02, 2016 10:58 PM (vb33c)
No shit. Dude takes a bigger hit than ever.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 02, 2016 10:59 PM (OQ9R7)
______
YES! Health care has to be the only industry in America where you as the consumer have no idea what the price is until a month later when you get a bill.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 11:00 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: L, Elle at March 02, 2016 10:55 PM (2GjZZ)
typical guy girl thing, guys say gtfo and or stfu while th egirls say stay, then ignore him and slice him with 1000 cuts.
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 02, 2016 11:00 PM (vb33c)
And at the same time, a volcano erupted, spewing fiery lava all over the Clinton investigation incriminating docs. Welp, I guess she's free and clear once again...
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 02, 2016 11:00 PM (ntObR)
You got me. We have some interesting weapon laws. For instance, if you carry a concealed weapon without a permit, it's against the law, but it is an affirmative defense if you get caught to claim that you had been threatened, so you needed it.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 02, 2016 11:00 PM (rwI+c)
going to talk to server boy. And given the nature of the
investigation, that's a no-brainer.
Posted by: Martian Wonder at March 02, 2016 10:50 PM (hxoxN)
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That still seems huge to me. The government sitting down with server boy.
Posted by: iforgot at March 02, 2016 11:01 PM (5o5ek)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 02, 2016 10:54 PM (xInes)
Hopefully not the War Eagle part!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 02, 2016 10:56 PM (EVl8U)
Reminded me that our poor NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP FOOTBALL TEAM was forced to play nice with the JEF yet again. Damn the timing. Roll Tide!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 11:01 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 11:01 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 02, 2016 11:01 PM (oVJmc)
I've held in my hands meds imported from Canada which a bit of label reading revealed to have been originally been manufactured Stateside.
But, yeah, there is a bunch of stuff out there being manufactured under very shady conditions. I have seen obviously faked pharmaceuticals many a time. Ridiculous Chinglish typos in the fine print, that sort of thing.
Fortunately, the only imported drug on which I am reliant is Spaten Optimator.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2016 11:01 PM (noWW6)
So far ettes are a much kinder lot than the Morons based on the comments directed toward Ignoramus. I am actually surprised.
Posted by: L, Elle
Girl SOP. Always want to let in the stray cat or give a lift to that guy who "seems nice".
Tends not to work out well.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 02, 2016 11:01 PM (kdS6q)
Get back in the batter's box and hit everything that's sent at you; else, take your base like a Man.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 02, 2016 11:02 PM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at M
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I made a breakthrough discovery regarding sleep. I started using earplugs and wearing one of those black eye masks to bed. I sleep so much better now. The slightest sound or light prevents me from sleeping. The last couple nights I have slept great. This morning, I woke up, I actually slept in and slept well. I woke up at 6 or so like normal and forgot that I was wearing the eye mask and thought it was the middle of the night bc it was so dark and went back to sleep.
Posted by: L, Elle at March 02, 2016 11:02 PM (2GjZZ)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 02, 2016 10:54 PM (OQ9R7)
Well Slashweasel, 'natural law' has nothing to do with 'originalist', or man-made law, but you might now that if you were born before 1970.Confusing having that word 'law' in there, makes every attorney think the are certified bone fided experts.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 02, 2016 11:02 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: Darrell at March 02, 2016 10:55 PM (iAiSy)
I've been using Epic since that whole Mozilla kerfuffle, whenever that was, a year or so ago. I have to enter my name and e-mail to comment here every time I start the browser, but it retains them as long as the browser is running. Those are minor nuisances, so it's not as "convenient" as other browsers, but other than that I like it fine.
Posted by: rickl at March 02, 2016 11:02 PM (sdi6R)
No, but even if he could no one else would understand it, so.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 02, 2016 11:02 PM (vhNJH)
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 02, 2016 11:03 PM (ntObR)
Posted by: Shaveswithaoccamsrazor at March 02, 2016 11:03 PM (6I0RI)
Posted by: Dan Rather at March 02, 2016 11:03 PM (3myMJ)
***
Note, I haven't commented.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2016 10:59 PM (8PbKi)
Silence is the kindest I can be also.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 02, 2016 11:04 PM (NPofj)
Always like Alabama the best. Pretty place and especially the northern part.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 02, 2016 10:58 PM (vhNJH)
Muscle Shoals has them Swampers. I can understand.
Little known fact. Rolling Stones wrote Wild Horses in the bathroom of a recording studio in Muscle Shoals, Alabama.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 11:05 PM (pUDQf)
YES! Health care has to be the only industry in America where you as the consumer have no idea what the price is until a month later when you get a bill.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 11:00 PM (0LHZx)
Exactly. There are laws against auto repairmen doing stuff like that.
Posted by: rickl at March 02, 2016 11:05 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Meremortal at March 02, 2016 11:05 PM (3myMJ)
Taking that YUUUUGGGGEEEE chin of hers to the BDSM scene?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. SSDD at March 02, 2016 11:05 PM (WVsWD)
Tends not to work out well.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 02, 2016 11:01 PM
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That guy has posted here for a while and he doesn't seem all that nice based on that single post. It's just a single post
so . . . .
Posted by: L, Elle at March 02, 2016 11:06 PM (2GjZZ)
Posted by: Meremortal at March 02, 2016 11:05 PM (3myMJ)
yeah, that was a great sock.
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 02, 2016 11:06 PM (vb33c)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 02, 2016 11:06 PM (8PbKi)
Being an ignorant "Birther" with no knowledge of spelling, punctuation, nor grammar disqualifies any responses that I might have had for you.
-End of Transmission.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 02, 2016 11:06 PM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Shaveswithaoccamsrazor
Senators have just a wee bit more power than a state legislator, right. And by a wee bit more, I mean a metric fuckton.
He's an establishment prick that's all to happy to sell out the conservative base and the welfare of the US at the drop of a hat. So concern we much.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 02, 2016 11:07 PM (A/3fN)
We (in SC) don't much care what he has to say either....sob has to hire somebody to call his dog.
Posted by: BignJames at March 02, 2016 11:07 PM (HtUkt)
Thanks, I tried to be fake but accurate.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 02, 2016 11:07 PM (3myMJ)
Mabye it's psychological... but does work for me. Also, since they changed the law, there is NO benefit to buying liquor in Mexico and walking it in. No.. They've ruined that.
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 11:08 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 02, 2016 11:09 PM (zv81W)
Oliver North was required to testify before Congress along with John Poindexter and both were given use immunity for their testimony about the Iran Contra affair. North's convictions were reversed by the DC Circuit as the trial judge did not give the defense a full hearing to determine whether the Independent Counsel used any part of the testimony to develop their case.United States of America v. Oliver L. North, Appellant, 910 F.2d 843 (D.C. Cir. 1990)
Posted by: whig at March 02, 2016 11:09 PM (mlyQI)
spelling, punctuation, nor grammar disqualifies any responses that I
might have had for you.
-End of Transmission.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at March 02, 2016 11:06 PM (OQ9R7)
Thank you for clearly demonstrating what natural law is.
CalTech or MIT?
I'm thinking MIT. The grammar nazi thing...
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 02, 2016 11:11 PM (T78UI)
I did watch Better Call Saul last night and like where they're a going.
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 11:11 PM (e7T6D)
He is a foul, foul excuse for a leader in any sense of the word.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 02, 2016 11:11 PM (A/3fN)
Posted by: Stay out da bushes at March 02, 2016 11:11 PM (th7n/)
Posted by: Dan Rather at March 02, 2016 11:03 PM (3myMJ)
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Yeah, with that hairdo she's clearly into S & M. Plus I hear she's a cutter.
Posted by: Stay out da bushes at March 02, 2016 11:13 PM (th7n/)
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 11:13 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Martian Wonder
Which article has named the specific version of immunity?
The WaPo article doesn't.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 02, 2016 10:54 PM (A/3fN)
Sorry, I don't need the WaPo to tell me that, I just know and will leave it at that. That's how investigations work at this stage. They aren't handing out transactional immunity to anyone right now because they don't know enough to hand that out. Those thinking this is a Law and Order episode where this guy has been granted immunity so that he can "roll" on HRC are off base. That's not how use immunity works.
Posted by: Martian Wonder at March 02, 2016 11:14 PM (hxoxN)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 02, 2016 11:01 PM (oVJmc)
To some extent, but not all that much, actually. From discovery research to approved product typically takes about 10 years. At the beginning, you just have to pay a dozen or two smelly socks chemists/biologists (cheap!), but by the end you have to pay any number of physicians, lawyers, statisticians, etc. (expensive!) for the clinical trials, which become exponentially more expensive going from phase I to phase II to phase III.
Part of that expense is FDA red tape, but most of it is just that we want to have reason to believe we won't be killing Granny by giving her this shit.
Back in the day, the process was cheap because the ailments were straightforward, e.g., treating bacterial infections. Two week course of therapy, the patient is either a) cured or b) not cured. Quick, cheap, unambiguous.
Nowadays, we're treating degenerative diseases of old age (e.g., blood cholesterol with statins to prevent atherosclerosis). This is rather like generating earthquake preventatives.
"Hey, we pumped this shit into the ground, and there haven't been any earthquakes!"
"So what? Maybe there wouldn't have been any earthquakes anyway."
The only way to prove efficacy is to wait 500 years, during which time presumably there should have been an earthquake.
Same thing with, e.g, cardiac drugs. How many people in a target population of 100,000 typically have a heart attack in a given year? Maybe a dozen or so? (Guessing.) So if you administer the drug, ane only 10/100,000 have heart attacks, does the drug work, or was that just chance?
Upshot: you need to have a shitload of patients to achieve sufficient statistical power to make a determination. And you have to pay all the treating physicians in the trial (and maybe all the patients too) to find out. Could be 10,000 of them. That's where the money goes.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 11:15 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: gracepc at March 02, 2016 11:16 PM (OU4q6)
Mabye it's psychological... but does work for me. Also, since they changed the law, there is NO benefit to buying liquor in Mexico and walking it in. No.. They've ruined that.
Posted by: Yip at March 02, 2016 11:08 PM (e7T6D)
It's like buying weed. Could be weed, could be oregano. Depends on the dealer, the time, the phase of the moon.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 11:18 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Tim in GA at March 02, 2016 11:19 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Fallen Roman Emprie bitches at March 02, 2016 11:20 PM (e7T6D)
You know, not to be difficult, but it's not clear to me that a Senator really has all that much power. What can he do off his own bat? He can propose legislation. He can propose hearings. That's it. And to get either of those to see the light of day, he needs the agreement of a majority of other Senators.
So all in all, it's not obvious to me that a Senator actually has much power.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 11:22 PM (oKE6c)
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Not because of his integrity, intelligence, and wisdom but as a litmus test. When Mz. Lindsey suggested the other day that it's time to rally behind Cruz, it signaled a sea change in GOPe fears and expectations.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 02, 2016 11:22 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Tim in GA at March 02, 2016 11:19 PM (YLidQ)
766
Posted by: Fallen Roman Emprie bitches at March 02, 2016 11:20 PM (e7T6D)
Phew. Thank you.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 11:25 PM (oKE6c)
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That's incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial.
- Perry Mason, Esq.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 02, 2016 11:26 PM (Nwg0u)
is just that we want to have reason to believe we won't be killing
Granny by giving her this shit.
Back in the day, the process was
cheap because the ailments were straightforward, e.g., treating
bacterial infections. Two week course of therapy, the patient is either
a) cured or b) not cured. Quick, cheap, unambiguous.
Nowadays,
we're treating degenerative diseases of old age (e.g., blood cholesterol
with statins to prevent atherosclerosis). This is rather like
generating earthquake preventatives.
"Hey, we pumped this shit into the ground, and there haven't been any earthquakes!"
"So what? Maybe there wouldn't have been any earthquakes anyway."
The only way to prove efficacy is to wait 500 years, during which time presumably there should have been an earthquake.
Same
thing with, e.g, cardiac drugs. How many people in a target population
of 100,000 typically have a heart attack in a given year? Maybe a dozen
or so? (Guessing.) So if you administer the drug, ane only 10/100,000
have heart attacks, does the drug work, or was that just chance?
Upshot:
you need to have a shitload of patients to achieve sufficient
statistical power to make a determination. And you have to pay all the
treating physicians in the trial (and maybe all the patients too) to
find out. Could be 10,000 of them. That's where the money goes.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 11:15 PM (oKE6c)
Actually Jay, the FDA used to only require proof that a new drug was safe. In 1962, the FDA also started requiring proof of substantial efficacy. This mover effectively doubled the time it took to get drugs to market. This not only increased costs substantially but also, according to Sam Peltzman's studies, cost lives (because more people likely died waiting for effective drugs to be available than would have died from taking drugs that were safe but not ultimately effective on their particular illness.)
Posted by: redbanzai at March 02, 2016 11:32 PM (NPofj)
Martian Wonder told me something I didn't know. Detail above. Point is that the stories on the news right now about this Palladino guy don't mean much of anything. *Do I have that right Martian Wonder?" Except that they do because they're driving the news cycle, and when this happens its often deliberate.
ie. story makes it seem like the Hillary onion is being peeled back when it doesn't mean anything at all.
See what can happen here when we put our collective Horde minds to it. I'm now more informed on this point than anyone following general media, thanks to Martian Media
Maybe its because of the heightened interest in the election, but this site has become nearly useless because of the number of comments.
The signal to noise ratio has gone down. I'm not talking about purely personal comment which I know are part of this site,
My complaint above was that people shouldn't just vent on news items where they have nothing to add but a vent Else, this site becomes 10,000 people yelling out a window. If that's what you all want I'll move on. There's not enough time in the day
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 02, 2016 11:52 PM (rs5De)
Posted by: Sandy at March 03, 2016 02:54 AM (tbyTp)
These are the people who will do 18 months at Danbury rather than turn on their friends.
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