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Trump Wins in Nevada

I hate to step on Maet's wonderful ONT, but I figure I should post a main page post.

Ben Carson is speaking now.

Do see Maet's ONT below for lots of interesting stuff.

Posted by: Ace at 12:13 AM




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1
National Review: Nevada Is Rubio's Firewall, but Cruz Could Tear It Down
by Elaina Plott

December 21, 2015

http://tinyurl.com/gta2ga2

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 24, 2016 12:14 AM (kdS6q)

2 TRUMP

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 12:14 AM (qHgBB)

3 FOX is talking about Unstoppable Trump ... quite a change.

and just saying how it is advantageous not to be specific to win the primary, so those strong positions don't do harm in the general. Hope and Change ... but Trump is specific enough on border, trade, and the Muslim invasion.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 24, 2016 12:16 AM (eUbDe)

4 Thank you, Ace.
Maet didn't want the caucus stuff sullying his excellent ONT

Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 12:16 AM (2x3L+)

5 Make Ballot Stuffing Great Again!

Posted by: End of the Republic at February 24, 2016 12:16 AM (vaFpc)

6 so Trump won with Latinos


I hope Cruz beats Dondi

Posted by: ThunderB at February 24, 2016 12:16 AM (zOTsN)

7 ....whadidImis....

Posted by: HILLARY! at February 24, 2016 12:16 AM (INxoa)

8 Yuge...

Posted by: Skeezix at February 24, 2016 12:16 AM (WnCSK)

9 I hate to step on Maet's wonderful ONT, but I figure I should post a main page post.

Posted by Ace


I don't think he cares.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 12:16 AM (Qy3YA)

10 Fox Business saying Trump took 40% of the Hispanic vote.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at February 24, 2016 12:16 AM (PvCxa)

11 No Rubio. Never a Rubio.

I wish that Trump hadn't pooped all over the Trump-Cruz dream ticket, but he did, and he kept pooping, and even when he was all out of poop he still kept pooping.

It makes the election less than it could have been. But hey, Trump gonna poop.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 24, 2016 12:16 AM (B8JRQ)

12 Is it usual to call an election with only 3% of precincts reporting??

Posted by: Rastus at February 24, 2016 12:16 AM (VjlMj)

13 I liked what Kirsten Powers said about the race. Scenarios for Rubio winning the nomination basically rely on magical thinking.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at February 24, 2016 12:16 AM (jEIZo)

14 I'm thinking Cruz is #3 again. Too much GOP machinery against him.

Posted by: John the Baptist at February 24, 2016 12:17 AM (b6qi2)

15 What an amazing victory for Rubio.

Posted by: Mariobot at February 24, 2016 12:17 AM (2TUVm)

16 Bargaining...denial...something...

Gah! It's really going to be Trump isn't it?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2016 12:17 AM (1xUj/)

17 Make Ballot Stuffing Great Again!

Posted by: End of the Republic at

he was 40 points ahead in polling

40

I doubt very much that he won on ballot stuffing

Posted by: ThunderB at February 24, 2016 12:17 AM (zOTsN)

18 Another glorious victory! Prepare for another triumph through the streets of Miami.

Posted by: Dondi Viti Vici at February 24, 2016 12:18 AM (zmW4B)

19
Wayne Dupree

If Cruz doesn't win a county in NV, that would be two states




Soon.

Posted by: The Grim Reaper

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 24, 2016 12:18 AM (kdS6q)

20 First!

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 12:18 AM (obZhs)

21 >>>9. I don't think he cares.


Not since he got the dental plan from ace

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 24, 2016 12:18 AM (voOPb)

22 The people of Nevada are stooped for voting for Trump. Trump lies about our Presdent of Color and Trump and also will not give persons of color any job in his company.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at February 24, 2016 12:18 AM (Fbj4h)

23 Ben Carson laughs inappropriately all the time like Joe Biden against Paul Ryan during the VP debate except Carson has the advantage of strong sleep inducing drugs that calm him down

Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 12:18 AM (2x3L+)

24 If I'm going to vote for someone who's going to lie to me, I'll take Cruz. He seems better at it than either Mario or Trump.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 24, 2016 12:18 AM (Wckf4)

25 I wonder if it's too late to buy Trump suspenders at Macy's...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 12:18 AM (Qy3YA)

26 Seriously, how has it been called for him?? When I check the live results they all say less than 5% reporting... ??

Posted by: Rastus at February 24, 2016 12:19 AM (VjlMj)

27 I think Trump has a decent shot at winning the Texas primary. He has the momentum to cut into Cruz' lead.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at February 24, 2016 12:19 AM (jEIZo)

28 Can we stop with the big beautiful door crap.

It's just a sop, he doesn't mean it.

He is a nationalist, full stop.

He will build the wall, kick people the fuck out and generally fuck shit up where he can.

Stop this nonsense.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 24, 2016 12:19 AM (EmUe0)

29 The enstompening continues unabated.

Loose shit, Ace.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at February 24, 2016 12:19 AM (HeZ0H)

30 Since people talking about NV are yacking away on the ONT, can we talk ONT stuff here?

Sometimes when Maet or Ace want something, we do The Opposite

Posted by: kbdabear at February 24, 2016 12:20 AM (rojHq)

31 Bargaining...denial...something...

Gah! It's really going to be Trump isn't it?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2016 12:17 AM (1xUj/)

******

If the voters decide, probably. If it goes to the Convention undecided, all bets are off.

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 12:20 AM (YLidQ)

32 Kirsten Powers said about the race. Scenarios for Rubio winning the nomination basically rely on magical thinking
-----

Puff the magic Hispanic

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 24, 2016 12:20 AM (voOPb)

33 Karl Rove is a dick generally.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 24, 2016 12:20 AM (EmUe0)

34 If Trump walks away with TX, I just don't see how either Mario or Cruz can continue.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 24, 2016 12:21 AM (Wckf4)

35 Sometimes when Maet or Ace want something, we do The Opposite

Crossbows, baby.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2016 12:21 AM (1xUj/)

36 The enstompening continues unabated.

Loose shit, Ace.

Posted by: Nom de Blog


A post an hour later is a stomping?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 12:21 AM (Qy3YA)

37 Karl Rove is such a total piece of shit.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 12:22 AM (2x3L+)

38 Love you, Ace. You know what women want.

I am enjoying watching the Libs heads spinning.

Posted by: ALH at February 24, 2016 12:22 AM (Z56vq)

39 Wonder what the first 90 days of the Clinton Administration will look like...

Posted by: End of the Republic at February 24, 2016 12:22 AM (vaFpc)

40 Fuckin karl rove....this guy.

Posted by: Skeezix at February 24, 2016 12:22 AM (WnCSK)

41 Yes, the Trumpocalypse rolls on....

Let it burn won't do any more. It's taking too long.

Time to take a flamethrower to the ramshackle shit-house that is our polity

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 24, 2016 12:22 AM (lutOX)

42 I thought Trump crashing Beck's rally was pretty funny, which i think caused Beck to melt down and started calling Trump supporters brown shirts.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 12:22 AM (qHgBB)

43
Is it usual to call an election with only 3% of precincts reporting??
Posted by: Rastus at February 24, 2016 12:16 AM (VjlMj)
It is when those precincts confirm that the candidate with a considerable lead over his rivals does in fact have a considerable lead.

Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at February 24, 2016 12:22 AM (FohCt)

44 He will build the wall, kick people the fuck out and generally fuck shit up where he can.

Stop this nonsense.

Posted by: Kreplach


I fail to see the problem vis a vis the GOP.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 12:22 AM (Qy3YA)

45 What a stupid time to be alive.

Posted by: wytshus at February 24, 2016 12:23 AM (EVi2J)

46 Trump huh? Once again the voters looking to get what they deserve. Sigh.

Posted by: Morloch at February 24, 2016 12:23 AM (I2Jm/)

47 37
Karl Rove is such a total piece of shit.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 12:22 AM (2x3L+)


He's lucky to live in such a civilized age. My ancestors would have tarred and feathered his ass.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 12:23 AM (HalrA)

48 Ok junkies what did the Rovester say now? Rubio can still win Ohio? Florida? Whiteboard time?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 24, 2016 12:23 AM (voOPb)

49 I came for the ONT but stayed for the Trump Gloat.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 24, 2016 12:23 AM (1CroS)

50 Trump ain't winning Texas. Even hispanically.

Posted by: Eromero at February 24, 2016 12:23 AM (zLDYs)

51 Joe Trippi sounding smarter than Karl Rove now

Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 12:23 AM (2x3L+)

52 No worries, Ace -- it ain't like Maet hasn't stomped the crap outta your posts more times than we can count.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2016 12:23 AM (EzgxV)

Posted by: Carry On at February 24, 2016 12:23 AM (nrsmi)

54 I'm closing Gitmo! Pay attention to me! pouts & stomps feet

Posted by: POTUS at February 24, 2016 12:23 AM (m0JA3)

55 I wish that Trump hadn't pooped all over the Trump-Cruz dream ticket, but he did, and he kept pooping, and even when he was all out of poop he still kept pooping.
*********************

Yeah that gave me the sadz. Although my betters have informed me a Trump/Cruz ticket wouldnt work because it would alienate too many potential crossover and independent votes.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 12:24 AM (qHgBB)

56 oh great. so we are going to have a candidate who:
- favors government-run health care
- favors banning scary looking guns
- opposes reforming entitlements
- has a very confused and dangerous policy towards the middle east
- favors funding planned parenthood
- wants to make the tax code even more progressive
- favors using eminent domain on behalf of private developers
- favors 'touchback amnesty' and a path to citizenship for many illegals


and then there's hillary.

Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 24, 2016 12:24 AM (uZNvH)

57 The Plutocrat Party (having lost Bush) won't give up on Rubio. They can't control Cruz.

Trump would, normally, be part of the Plutocrat Party but at this point he doesn't GAF. He doesn't have to. He's his own plutocrat. He's not even spending all that much money and he's running away with it.

Youqu de shidai.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2016 12:24 AM (qkjYB)

58 Trump

Posted by: ginaswo at February 24, 2016 12:24 AM (qxNrP)

59 If Trump has a shot at taking Texas in the primary, voting here on March 1 might be kinda interesting. For a change.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 24, 2016 12:24 AM (JO9+V)

60 So, which state is the next "firewall" for Rubio according to insider experts? I sense there are 45 more of them.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 24, 2016 12:25 AM (1CroS)

61 Meanwhile The Rube is asleep in a hotel in MI

Just let him eat his waffle

Posted by: ginaswo at February 24, 2016 12:25 AM (qxNrP)

62 If the GOPe wanted to knock out Trump they should have made a better offer - slot on Walking Dead where he slays Rick and raises his kid or Game of Thrones (the dragons now work for Trump).

Posted by: East Bay Jay at February 24, 2016 12:25 AM (PvCxa)

63 Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 24, 2016 12:24 AM (uZNvH)

You forgot asshole

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 24, 2016 12:25 AM (voOPb)

64 Trippi is a mouthpiece

Posted by: Skeezix at February 24, 2016 12:25 AM (WnCSK)

65 Trump did a Breitbart / Bart

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2016 12:26 AM (qkjYB)

66 Unfortunately it looks like Cruz is losing steam.
Most Electable and Late Breaking Undecideds not going his way.

Posted by: Carry On at February 24, 2016 12:26 AM (nrsmi)

67 Me a year ago: I fucking hate Trump.

Me now: I fucking love Trump.

I live in interesting times.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 12:27 AM (qHgBB)

68 Turdblosdom: er uh question is uh uh will this give him some momentum

That's sharp analysis there 'rons

Posted by: ginaswo at February 24, 2016 12:27 AM (qxNrP)

69 Here's your GOPe, folks. Can't even quell dissent in the ranks because they're so bought by the Wreck America crowd. Like Ace said months ago, Trump is a GOPe problem caused by years of lies and bullshit. All of them need to be swept into obscurity where hopefully they'll die covered in boils.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 24, 2016 12:27 AM (4ErVI)

70 You peasants needn't concern yourselves. Rince promised me many things, and we're not going to let a little thing like "votes" stand in the way.

Posted by: Dondi Viti Vici at February 24, 2016 12:27 AM (zmW4B)

71 Wonder when the big GOP donors pull funding for Cruz and put all their chips on Rubio. Rubio has proven to be a team player.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 24, 2016 12:27 AM (T78UI)

72 Chemjeff,
Ja. Exciting isn't it?

Posted by: John the Baptist at February 24, 2016 12:27 AM (b6qi2)

73 - has a very confused and dangerous policy towards the middle east



Does it include letting in a shitload of Muslim terrorists? Or is that a plus, as some would have it?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 24, 2016 12:27 AM (oKE6c)

74 Trump is the nominee.
Everybody better just embrace it.

Posted by: Lever Action at February 24, 2016 12:27 AM (A3kYV)

75 Carl Rove= Porky Pig. (cannot stand Carl. Like Porky).

"Th-th-th-that's all folks!"

Is he running around with his little wipe off white board? I am away from tee-vee. I imagine Megyn Kelly is grinding her teeth at night as much as I am.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 24, 2016 12:28 AM (1uwuc)

76 The weird thing about Trump is that he manages to convince everyone that he is lying to the other guy and not them


But I am happy. If only because this should teach GOPe how bad they fucked up, it deprives them of their preferred candidate

Posted by: ThunderB at February 24, 2016 12:28 AM (zOTsN)

77 >>>Joe Trippi sounding smarter than Karl Rove now

Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 12:23 AM (2x3L+)<<<

Until he gets asked if he's nervous about the Repub turnout numbers... then he starts sputtering and saying that Pubes, Kashit, and guys who've already dropped out would be the toughest for the Dems to run against.

Posted by: say it ain't so, Joe at February 24, 2016 12:28 AM (H9MG5)

78 Der Trumpenfuhrer (relax, just heavy-handed lazy blog comment humor - plus it kind of works) won 40% of Hispanicals?


If true, this seems sort of big. Wasn't that the high-water mark for the GOP and that demo (Dubya in 2004)?


Well, "big" in a not very big way. As pointed out by many in recent years - though apparently incomprehensible to "professional" GOP political sorts and even blog commenters, from Hector to more serious folk - "winning" that demo is not an easy way to 270. On the contrary, marginally better performance in less exotic demos more than suffices to win.

Of course

Posted by: rhomboid at February 24, 2016 12:28 AM (QDnY+)

79 Here we go Trippi with the Angry!! voter rap

Posted by: ginaswo at February 24, 2016 12:28 AM (qxNrP)

80 Pay attention to me! pouts & stomps feet

Posted by: POTUS at February 24, 2016 12:23 AM (m0JA3)

Giggles at the mental image.

Posted by: ALH at February 24, 2016 12:28 AM (Z56vq)

81 Favorite son or leader in the national polls? Hmmmm.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 24, 2016 12:28 AM (JO9+V)

82 The Hat related the other day that the broke-ass Nevada Republican state party apparatus actually officially outsourced the tabulation of the caucus results to... the Associated Press.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 24, 2016 12:28 AM (noWW6)

83 I thought Trump crashing Beck's rally was pretty funny, which i think caused Beck to melt down and started calling Trump supporters brown shirts.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 12:22 AM (qHgBB)

******

It is just very fortunate for us that no commenters we have here think this way.

No, nuh uh, none at all.

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 12:28 AM (YLidQ)

84 Remember when the CW was Trump had a ceiling in the low to mid-thirties.

Posted by: cm9000 at February 24, 2016 12:30 AM (2TUVm)

85 I wouldn't be surprised if Trump won 40% of Hispanics. Their culture embraces the bold and the brash machismo.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 24, 2016 12:30 AM (4ErVI)

86 is the nominee.
Everybody better just embrace it.
Posted by: Lever Action at February 24, 2016 12:27 AM (A3kYV)

Like a terminal disease, embrace?,

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 24, 2016 12:30 AM (voOPb)

87 Fucking Rubio. How can so many people be so stupid?

Posted by: Portlandon at February 24, 2016 12:30 AM (Y+2sJ)

88 >>>48 Ok junkies what did the Rovester say now? Rubio can still win Ohio? Florida? Whiteboard time?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

whiteboard time
lolol

Posted by: concrete girl at February 24, 2016 12:30 AM (0KgAM)

89 Glenn Beck reminds me of Ernest T Bass.

Posted by: ALH at February 24, 2016 12:30 AM (Z56vq)

90
oh great. so we are going to have a candidate who:
- favors government-run health care
- favors banning scary looking guns
- opposes reforming entitlements
- has a very confused and dangerous policy towards the middle east
- favors funding planned parenthood
- wants to make the tax code even more progressive
- favors using eminent domain on behalf of private developers
- favors 'touchback amnesty' and a path to citizenship for many illegals


and then there's hillary.
Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 24, 2016 12:24 AM (uZNvH)

----
My fear exactly.

Posted by: Darth Randall at February 24, 2016 12:30 AM (KlVdw)

91 Here we go Trippi with the Angry!! voter rap
Posted by: ginaswo

That anything like Ninja Rap?

Posted by: Vanilla Ice at February 24, 2016 12:30 AM (zmW4B)

92 30 Since people talking about NV are yacking away on the ONT, can we talk ONT stuff here?

Posted by: kbdabear
-------------------
Heh.
Got any NV Caucus Compliance Pics handy?

Posted by: Chi at February 24, 2016 12:30 AM (oJOym)

93 56
oh great. so we are going to have a candidate who:
- favors government-run health care
- favors banning scary looking guns
- opposes reforming entitlements
- has a very confused and dangerous policy towards the middle east
- favors funding planned parenthood
- wants to make the tax code even more progressive
- favors using eminent domain on behalf of private developers
- favors 'touchback amnesty' and a path to citizenship for many illegals


and then there's hillary.


Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 24, 2016 12:24 AM (uZNvH)


I think you might have missed a few misleading soundbites, but bravo, overall.

Posted by: rebel flounder at February 24, 2016 12:30 AM (3dOE/)

94 It is just very fortunate for us that no commenters we have here think this way.
No, nuh uh, none at all.
*************************

Heh. For the record my shirt is not brown. It's more of a smokey topaz.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 12:31 AM (qHgBB)

95 Woot! Cruz won a teensy tiny district!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 24, 2016 12:31 AM (8PbKi)

96 President Trump=The ultimate "Thanks Obama"

Posted by: gewa76 at February 24, 2016 12:31 AM (9MbCY)

97 Cruz shoulda told beck to toss off a long time ago

Posted by: Skeezix at February 24, 2016 12:32 AM (WnCSK)

98 Trump is going to have this sewn up by March 1st. I wonder when the regret will set in? Perhaps when Trump is forced to leave the campaign trail to attend trial over his Trump University fraud? Of course, by then, it will be far far far too late.

But hey! He will have made some people feel good by providing them with an outlet for their anger. It'll provide a soothing balm when President Hillary packs the Supreme Court with 40 year old communists.

Posted by: Revenant at February 24, 2016 12:32 AM (y64uP)

99 Burn the Witch: "If Trump walks away with TX, I just don't see how either Mario or Cruz can continue."

It's proportional winnings so Trump won't finish anyone off there; but, yeah, if he still notches another win, it doesn't bode well for challengers. Especially Cruz. Cruz has to win Texas outright.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 24, 2016 12:32 AM (1CroS)

100
toddstarnes

Karl Rove questioning whether Trump has "real momentum"

Oh, good grief...

[pic] http://tinyurl.com/zcjdl3v

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 24, 2016 12:32 AM (kdS6q)

101 The FOX people are just as unhappy as the CNN people.

Why is that?

Posted by: ALH at February 24, 2016 12:32 AM (Z56vq)

102 >>.I wouldn't be surprised if Trump won 40% of Hispanics. Their culture embraces the bold and the brash machismo.

please bear in mind the obvious difference of winning 40% of very partisan GOP hispanics and winning 40% of the overall hispanic population, which leans Democrat by 70-30

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 12:33 AM (dciA+)

103 Fucking Rubio. How can so many people be so stupid?
************************

I don't think stupid, just continually trapped in the mentality that we have to nominate the candidate who's most likely to win. You know like with McCain and Romney.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 12:33 AM (qHgBB)

104 Leftie sites are orgasmic over Trump win.

He will be slaughtered in general.

Posted by: End of the Republic at February 24, 2016 12:33 AM (vaFpc)

105 also i don't know if hispanics are all into "brash and bold machismo"

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 12:33 AM (dciA+)

106 87 Fucking Rubio. How can so many people be so stupid?
--------

His, here hold my beer moment with Chuck U. Schumer was his demise. Just imagine had he stood with Cruz & sessions?
Trump would still be firing idiots on nbc

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 24, 2016 12:33 AM (voOPb)

107 76 The weird thing about Trump is that he manages to convince everyone that he is lying to the other guy and not them


But I am happy. If only because this should teach GOPe how bad they fucked up, it deprives them of their preferred candidate
Posted by: ThunderB at February 24, 2016 12:28 AM (zOTsN)


Yup, same here.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2016 12:33 AM (sdi6R)

108 Uh-Oh....Get the high/low and unload the Twinkies. STAT!

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at February 24, 2016 12:33 AM (CxVwe)

109 oh great. so we are going to have a candidate who:
- favors government-run health care
- favors banning scary looking guns
- opposes reforming entitlements
- has a very confused and dangerous policy towards the middle east
- favors funding planned parenthood
- wants to make the tax code even more progressive
- favors using eminent domain on behalf of private developers
- favors 'touchback amnesty' and a path to citizenship for many illegals
Posted by: chemjeff


Like the weather in TX, wait 5 minutes and he'll change.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 12:34 AM (Qy3YA)

110 It would have been so easy for the GOP to kill Trump.

Almost elementary if they were a real opposition party but no they clung to their cheap labor and crony capitalist ways and feathering their own nests over the desires of the base.

Fuck them.

The GOP needs to be destroyed utterly.

Trumps a Democrat nationalist which is site better than the fucktarded bullshit we've been getting from the so called "CON-servitive" party.

Fun fact:

The GOP has controlled will have controlled the house for 18 of the last 22 years, they have controlled the Senate for 12 of the last 22 years and the Presidency of 8 of the last 22 years and have absolutely nothing to show for it other than racking up trillions of debt going from 5Trillion in 2000 to 19.5Trillion in 2015, having less liberty, growing government by leaps and bounds.

Fuck them.

Shake shit up.

It cannot possibly be worse than what we've got.

Maybe a Trump presidency will be such a shock to the system that some people will get a fucking clue.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 24, 2016 12:34 AM (ILoaF)

111 Does it include letting in a shitload of Muslim terrorists? Or is that a plus, as some would have it?


Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 24, 2016 12:27 AM (oKE6c)

I'm still waiting for Trump to come up with some test in order to decide if a person is a Muslim or not, in order for his so-called "ban on Muslim immigration" to be enforceable.
With respect to Syria, he alternatingly wants to (a) bomb the shit out of them, or (b) let Putin have complete hegemony over the area. And of course he toes the Code Pink line that invading Iraq was not just a mistake but based on a deliberate lie, so there's no chance he'll do anything there, probably just let it all go to shit. And what about Afghanistan? Will he let it degenerate back into an Al Qaeda playground? Maybe President Trump could take a poll, he seems to like polls so much, and let that decide what he should do. And let's not even start on Libya or Egypt or Israel.

Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 24, 2016 12:34 AM (uZNvH)

112 Mormons voted for Cruz

Posted by: ThunderB at February 24, 2016 12:34 AM (zOTsN)

113 "I wouldn't be surprised if Trump won 40% of Hispanics. Their culture embraces the bold and the brash machismo."

Also, Melania looks exactly like a telenovela starlet.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 24, 2016 12:34 AM (noWW6)

114 ThunderB! A UCMJ question - though on-topic, actually.


I don't have the verbiage, but apparently both Trump and Cruz have made comments on the Bergdahl matter (somewhere in the back of my mind I've got a memory of Trump saying something very Trumpish - i.e. hilariously direct and kinda wild).


Question(s): would such statements conceivably ever aid the defense in his court martial? Reason I axe is this other vague memory - that Murtha's outrageous slanders were somehow actually used by the defense in the various Haditha court martials (undue command influence).


As Murtha was not in the chain of command, I question my recollection on this. But you can clarify most or all of this right here and now.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 24, 2016 12:34 AM (QDnY+)

115 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fisherman_and_the_Jinni

After the third century of imprisonment, the djinn vowed he would give to his rescuer three wishes. After the fourth . . .

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2016 12:34 AM (qkjYB)

116 104 Leftie sites are orgasmic over Trump win.
He will be slaughtered in general.
Posted by: End of the Republic at February 24, 2016 12:33 AM (vaFpc)



Takes me back to 1980, it does.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 24, 2016 12:35 AM (oKE6c)

117 So Cruz pulled in heavy he Mormon vote thanks to Glenn Beck.

Losing strategy going forward.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 12:35 AM (2x3L+)

118 Cruz won Lincoln county!

Posted by: Richard at February 24, 2016 12:35 AM (SOVQ8)

119 also i don't know if hispanics are all into "brash and bold machismo"

Posted by: ace


Only if for the fact that there is no such thing as a 'hispanic.'

It's an invented term by the racialist Left looking for more agitation and resentment.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 12:36 AM (Qy3YA)

120 I'm still waiting for Trump to come up with some test in order to decide if a person is a Muslim or not, in order for his so-called "ban on Muslim immigration" to be enforceable.


Eat bacon, burn a Koran.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at February 24, 2016 12:36 AM (1D4Ef)

121 Look, Trump is not my dream candidate. My dream candidate is not running - he could never hold any elected office or any position of responsibility in any sane nation.

That said, he beats the hell out of the alternatives. And he scares the hell out of the people who've accelerated our decline and taken glee in using the apparatus of the bloated State to remake the world in their own image while punishing anyone who not 100% onboard with AmSoc, SJW crap, national suicide, and The Light-Worker.

That he makes them shit their pants is enough for a lot of people.

So, yeah, I'll pull the lever for Trump - we could do a lot worse.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 24, 2016 12:36 AM (lutOX)

122 Heh. For the record my shirt is not brown. It's more of a smokey topaz.

--

Searching Walmart.com for 'rutabaga' brings up a very nice selection of textiles in that rutabaga color.

Posted by: John the Baptist at February 24, 2016 12:37 AM (b6qi2)

123 >>>Takes me back to 1980, it does.


yeah i don't know about that. the establishment opposed reagan but when he gave his concession speech at the 1976 convention, everyone wondered, "What the hell, why didn't we nominate this guy?"

I never hear Trump say anything that sounds to my ear remotely likely to convince anyone of adopting his position, because he has no real positions. He's running as a Television Personality. He's just running on being "Trump."

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 12:37 AM (dciA+)

124 >>It cannot possibly be worse than what we've got.



O fuck, there goes Kreplach flaunting fate

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 24, 2016 12:37 AM (voOPb)

125 Old and Busted: "I will not stand for the MSM picking a RINO as our candidate yet again"

New Hotness: "Vote for the RINO the MSM has been pushing! Conservatives talk like a fag and their shits all retarded. Go Trump!"

I've been saying it for years, and I'll say it again: I have seen the enemy, and the enemy is us.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 12:37 AM (KRwzj)

126 Dirty secret is that Hispanics have the lowest voting rates.. Really low. So whoever does vote has to be exceptionally motivated

I just don't see Hillary generating that kind of passion

Posted by: ThunderB at February 24, 2016 12:38 AM (zOTsN)

127 Laurie David's Cervix: "Karl Rove questioning whether Trump has 'real momentum'"

The wisdom of a guy who can flush hundreds of millions of dollars of other people's money down the toilet and actually lose votes for his candidates.

He's perfect for the GOP.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 24, 2016 12:38 AM (1CroS)

128 @119

It was invented by Nixon to create a competing block against blacks.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 24, 2016 12:38 AM (ILoaF)

129 New Hotness: "Vote for the RINO the MSM has been pushing! Conservatives talk like a fag and their shits all retarded. Go Trump!"

Posted by: Hollowpoint


Which conservative in the GOP?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 12:39 AM (Qy3YA)

130 I don't think stupid, just continually trapped in the mentality that we have to nominate the candidate who's most likely to win. You know like with McCain and Romney.

You do understand "most likely to win" doesn't mean "will win", right?
I guess there was a true conservative who couldn't even beat McCain and Romney in the primaries but would have crushed Obama.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 24, 2016 12:39 AM (9MbCY)

131 You goddamn Dutchmen really make me laugh, here I take Rubio in when you're havin' problems and now you want to push me out of my own party!!!!

Posted by: Moe Rove at February 24, 2016 12:39 AM (rojHq)

132 What bothers me is this.

Trump sails along, and when Cruz threatens--gets to number 2 position--Trump goes on the attack. Must destroy Cruz, because Cruz threatens.

Last couple of times, Rubio comes in second. Gets to number 2 position.

Trump...does not attack. Continues to go after Cruz. Does not attack Rubio.

It makes me think Trump's dream team is him and Rubio,.

That makes warning bells go off in Hulk's head. Loud warning bells. Makes Hulk's head hurt. Hulk doesn't like Hulk's head to hurt!

Is Trump hoping to add Rubio as VP? Because that would stink rather a lot. There's no way Hulk is voting for anything containing Rubio. Hulk would rather smash!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 24, 2016 12:39 AM (B8JRQ)

133 Two videos explaining Trump tactics, in a nutshell.

https://youtu.be/9LR6EA91zLo

https://youtu.be/MvVfj0ov8k8

Posted by: rebel flounder at February 24, 2016 12:39 AM (3dOE/)

134 Wow! Cruz took Lincoln county.

Posted by: John the Baptist at February 24, 2016 12:39 AM (b6qi2)

135 >>>Only if for the fact that there is no such thing as a 'hispanic.'

It's an invented term by the racialist Left looking for more agitation and resentment.

...

there's no such thing as a person of mexican, central, or south american descent?

that's not a real thing?

the term is a bit silly because it emphasizes the language spoken, making white european spaniards also "hispanics" (a silly thing that a friend of mine used to his advantage in getting into med school), but there definitely is a "latin" population.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 12:39 AM (dciA+)

136 Posted by: End of the Republic at February 24, 2016 12:33 AM (vaFpc)

There, there.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 24, 2016 12:39 AM (3myMJ)

137 I just don't see Hillary generating that kind of passion
Posted by: ThunderB

Hillary! can't even generate passion in Huma even with the huge salaries and juicy intel leaks.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at February 24, 2016 12:40 AM (zmW4B)

138 131 You goddamn Dutchmen really make me laugh, here I take Rubio in when you're havin' problems and now you want to push me out of my own party!!!!

Posted by: Moe Rove at February 24, 2016 12:39 AM (rojHq)

Your party loses voters, we think maybe we can do better...

Posted by: "Don" Trump at February 24, 2016 12:40 AM (rojHq)

139 Trump victory speech should be up shortly

Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 12:40 AM (2x3L+)

140 I'm still waiting for Trump to come up with some
test in order to decide if a person is a Muslim or not, in order for his
so-called "ban on Muslim immigration" to be enforceable.
With
respect to Syria, he alternatingly wants to (a) bomb the shit out of
them, or (b) let Putin have complete hegemony over the area. And of
course he toes the Code Pink line that invading Iraq was not just a
mistake but based on a deliberate lie, so there's no chance he'll do
anything there, probably just let it all go to shit. And what about
Afghanistan? Will he let it degenerate back into an Al Qaeda playground?
Maybe President Trump could take a poll, he seems to like polls so
much, and let that decide what he should do. And let's not even start on
Libya or Egypt or Israel.


Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 24, 2016 12:34 AM (uZNvH)


So ... your policy would be to let any Muslim in, if he or she attended one of your courses?

Because that seemed to be the policy you've favored before. After all, they're "nice." Most of them. Ask the people at the San Bernardino Christmas party, you know, the ones who'd given Farouk a baby shower. The survivors will tell you what a great guy he was. He may not have understood resonance structures, but he was a great guy.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 24, 2016 12:40 AM (oKE6c)

141 "With respect to Syria, he alternatingly wants to (a) bomb the shit out
of them, or (b) let Putin have complete hegemony over the area."

There is no mutual exclusivity in these propositions.

Frankly, the way things are going, there won't be anything left to bomb by the time a hypothetical Donald J. Trump administration would be taking the reins, because Putin will already have flattened everything in sight in Syria and will be digesting a couple of big pieces of Turkey for dessert.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 24, 2016 12:40 AM (noWW6)

142 "He's running as a Television Personality. He's just running on being "Trump."

No. That's not true that's why he keeps winning. Pundits, partisans, and the media keep lying to themselves.

Start with the wall...baby! And go from there.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 24, 2016 12:41 AM (CxVwe)

143 Can Cruz win anything else besides Texas?

Posted by: Skeezix at February 24, 2016 12:41 AM (WnCSK)

144 i just saw a french report that the cologne attackers weren't syrian -- they were moroccan, tunisian, and algerian, who had come through turkey *claiming* to be syrian.

But they were actually just economic migrants, not syrians fleeing the war.

only like 3% of them were syrian.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 12:42 AM (dciA+)

145 Dirty secret is that Hispanics have the lowest voting rates.. Really low. So whoever does vote has to be exceptionally motivated

I just don't see Hillary generating that kind of passion

Posted by: ThunderB at February 24, 2016 12:38 AM (zOTsN)

Hispanic men tell me that no Hispanic male will vote for a woman to be President of the USA.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 24, 2016 12:42 AM (3myMJ)

146 Time to get on board.

Posted by: Steven at February 24, 2016 12:42 AM (gcO0q)

147 Only if for the fact that there is no such thing as a 'hispanic.'

It's an invented term by the racialist Left looking for more agitation and resentment.


Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 12:36 AM (Qy3YA)


Pointing out that "Hispanic" and "Latino" are phony made up terms used for racial agitation makes you a racist.

Posted by: cm9000 at February 24, 2016 12:43 AM (2TUVm)

148 yeah i don't know about that. the establishment opposed reagan but when he gave his concession speech at the 1976 convention, everyone wondered, "What the hell, why didn't we nominate this guy?"
I never hear Trump say anything that sounds to my ear remotely likely to convince anyone of adopting his position, because he has no real positions. He's running as a Television Personality. He's just running on being "Trump."
Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 12:37 AM (dciA+)



My point, to be clear, was that lefties of the time were thrilled that Carter would be running against Reagan, i.e., that their judgment is, shall we say, suspect? Otherwise we'd have had, inter alia, Presidents McGovern and Mondale.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 24, 2016 12:43 AM (oKE6c)

149 Cheer up~ This is just his warm up act. Lie back and think of Trump destroying the Clintons like he did the Bushes.

I'm not tired of winning yet!

Go Trump!

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 24, 2016 12:44 AM (CxVwe)

150 Let's talk business! First of all you're all done, the Trump name ain't got that kind of muscle anymore! You're bein' pushed outta New York by the other families, and now you wanna come out here and take over? I talked to Rubio, I can make a deal with him and STILL keep my party...

Posted by: Moe Rove at February 24, 2016 12:44 AM (rojHq)

151 On Murtha


The problem with those cases was command influence. Command influence is when the court martial convening authority makes public remarks and has formed an opinion on a case that may come before him

Posted by: ThunderB at February 24, 2016 12:44 AM (zOTsN)

152 Oh Fuck! I usually post eff instead of the actual word. Trump & Mario lies calling Cruz a liar did this, plus the LIVs voted for yet another celebrity. Trump is known for his TV Show, but I never watched it.

Another version of the JEF, a celebrity, instead of a man.

Levin saw something tonight after 8 pm, but wouldn't say what it was. I think it was rumor I saw on Twitter that Mario had an affair with a lobbyist while FL Speaker. It's at The Political Insider. Site seems to be hit job on any republican that isn't trump, described as a "conservative" on that website.

I want Cruz & celebrity is over 50% in Massachusetts. I'm voting for Cruz in primary!

Posted by: Carol at February 24, 2016 12:44 AM (sj3Ax)

153 You do understand "most likely to win" doesn't mean "will win", right? I guess there was a true conservative who couldn't even beat McCain and Romney in the primaries but would have crushed Obama.
*********************

Maybe, I doubt Gingrich would have gone all limpy dicked at the end the way Romney did.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 12:45 AM (qHgBB)

154 Dear GOP boosters,

You had 8 years to prepare an answer to a unvetted, x-factor leftie who did nothing during his term except to exacerbate the problems of invasive federal government.

You didn't even bother with a reform candidate. The most obvious and programmatically necessary of tools in the last term of an incumbent.

Could or wouldn't even do that.

You wouldn't even do the bare minimum.

If i knew the violin, I'd play a tuba over what comes next.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 12:45 AM (Qy3YA)

155 "Can Cruz win anything else besides Texas?"

Not so fast.

Posted by: Texas at February 24, 2016 12:45 AM (CxVwe)

156 Cruz crowd dead....

Posted by: Skeezix at February 24, 2016 12:45 AM (WnCSK)

157 jay,

but my point is that Reagan had an actual political genius (both philosophical and in terms of political persuasion) that made the left's confidence on this point stupid even at the time.

I don't see that here. yes, Trump has blustered a few positions, and yes, I give him credit for breaking the ice on some necessary topics. but he makes people run from his positions, rather than run towards them.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 12:45 AM (dciA+)

158 123
I never hear Trump say anything that sounds to my ear remotely likely to convince anyone of adopting his position, because he has no real positions. He's running as a Television Personality. He's just running on being "Trump."

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 12:37 AM (dciA+)


Yeah, Mark Levin talked about that tonight, and he played a speech by Reagan to compare and contrast. He seems utterly exasperated by Trump.

America in 2016 is a much different place than America in 1980, and I think it's not for the better. The LIVs are probably in the majority, and candidates who can't appeal to them have little chance of winning.

As you have said, "What a stupid time to be alive."

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2016 12:45 AM (sdi6R)

159 I for one want someone who pucnches up, punches down, punches every which way.

Dude got into a spat with the fucking pope - AND WON!!!!

Posted by: Kreplach at February 24, 2016 12:45 AM (EmUe0)

160 >>> Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 12:42 AM (dciA+)
------
I have read similar accounts on European publications. Most of the "Syrians"'seem to be African Muslims, not Middle Easterners.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 12:45 AM (2x3L+)

161 All Aboooooaaaaarrrrrdd!!

Posted by: Trump Bandwagon at February 24, 2016 12:46 AM (JO9+V)

162 Congratulations President Trump!!!!

Posted by: America at February 24, 2016 12:46 AM (W7Ku3)

163 The electorate that we once knew has been replaced. May as well get used to the idea.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2016 12:46 AM (8QGte)

164 Trump...does not attack. Continues to go after Cruz. Does not attack Rubio. It makes me think Trump's dream team is him and Rubio.
***************************

Trump's offense has made no sense. He goes after Cruz who is number two, and... Bush hovering in 4th or 5th place.

It's going to be interesting to see if he switches gears if Rubio gets another 2nd place win.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 12:47 AM (qHgBB)

165 Send Fredo off to do this. Send Fredo off to do that. Have Fredo run some Mickey Mouse state in flyover country!
I'm smart! I'm not dumb like people say! I'm smart and I deserve respect!

Posted by: Fredo Kasich at February 24, 2016 12:47 AM (zmW4B)

166 jay,
but my point is that Reagan had an actual political genius (both
philosophical and in terms of political persuasion) that made the left's
confidence on this point stupid even at the time.



Yes, but that political genius was only apparent in retrospect. At the time, in prospect, he was characterized as a dangerous, stupid idealogue, an airhead actor.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 24, 2016 12:47 AM (oKE6c)

167 144
i just saw a french report that the cologne attackers weren't syrian --
they were moroccan, tunisian, and algerian, who had come through turkey
*claiming* to be syrian.



But they were actually just economic migrants, not syrians fleeing the war.



only like 3% of them were syrian.





Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 12:42 AM (dciA+)


I'm shocked, shocked!! to find out that there was government fraud in the labelling of the Islamic invasion force.....

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2016 12:47 AM (EzgxV)

168 142
Start with the wall...baby! And go from there.
------

That's the idea for the first fabulous show on the all new TRUMP channel (formally know as CSPAN). It's tentatively called " Build the Dang Wall!" featuring competing teams with wacky wall designs and clashing personalities - exciting!

Posted by: End of the Republic at February 24, 2016 12:48 AM (vaFpc)

169 Rubio isn't going to make a speech tonight. It's past his bedtime.

Posted by: ALH at February 24, 2016 12:48 AM (Z56vq)

170 L, Elle,

I also saw suspicions this might have been organized by an informal gang of illegal immigrant North African thieves called "The Ring."

apparently it's their tactic to swarm into cities having festivals, for purposes of pickpocketing and thieving.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 12:49 AM (dciA+)

171 Beppo the Dwarf sounds smarter that Karl Rove now. Who doesn't?


so much GOPe stupidity, so little time..

Posted by: Aldo Moro, Italian internet goober at February 24, 2016 12:49 AM (8CdUx)

172 Trump's offense has made no sense. He goes after Cruz who is number two, and... Bush hovering in 4th or 5th place.

Lots of brownie points for crossover appeal for taking on Bush.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at February 24, 2016 12:49 AM (1D4Ef)

173 Trump == Bull
DC == China Shop

That is my hope; that is my dream.

It's not about idealism at this point any more. It's about retribution against the Uniparty Crime Syndicate that has hijacked our country.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 24, 2016 12:49 AM (1CroS)

174 Only if for the fact that there is no such thing as a 'hispanic.'

It's an invented term by the racialist Left looking for more agitation and resentment.


Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 12:36 AM (Qy3YA)


Of course there is such a thing as a "hispanic". It's an ethnic and cultural determination. The former Spanish and Portuguese settlements became the hispanic world. They carry the culture of the Iberian Peninsula (as evidenced by what total shitholes they have all been) and are pretty distinct in their ethnicity, though it is the mix with Indians that differentiates them from Spaniards and Portuguese.

Yes, there is a Latin America and the people populating it are hispanic and they derive much of their culture from Spain and Portugal, not to mention their language, which is one of the greatest determining factors of culture.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 12:49 AM (zc3Db)

175 >>>Yes, but that political genius was only apparent in retrospect. At the time, in prospect, he was characterized as a dangerous, stupid idealogue, an airhead actor.

No. even at the time, some people were passionate Reagan partisans who called him a genius.

who calls Trump a genius, apart from Trump or people on his payroll?

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 12:50 AM (dciA+)

176 Levin has said, repeatedly how Faux seems to be cheerleading for Mario, while blasting Cruz. I put CNN on now. I admit I'd rather watch CNN instead of Murdoch's Faux News BS.

Bret Stephens of WSJ @ almost $300 per year, may finally have been The Last Straw & cancel WSJ. I did in late 2014 & missed it. I don't read editorial page. Stephens blames Levin for trump!!

Posted by: Carol at February 24, 2016 12:50 AM (sj3Ax)

177 160 >>> Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 12:42 AM (dciA+)
------
I have read similar accounts on European publications. Most of the "Syrians"'seem to be African Muslims, not Middle Easterners.
Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 12:45 AM (2x3L+)
***
They self-identify however they please, because there's no way of knowing who they are or where they're from, in most cases.

Grifters gonna grift.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 24, 2016 12:50 AM (lutOX)

178 Pointing out that "Hispanic" and "Latino" are phony made up terms used for racial agitation makes you a racist.

Posted by: cm9000


Doesn't all of it? Every thing makes us SIXHERB.

So.
What, Quoth the man.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 12:50 AM (Qy3YA)

179 "they were moroccan, tunisian, and algerian, who had come through turkey *claiming* to be syrian."

One of the major complaints coming from Eastern European states like Hungary and Slovenia was that they were being ordered by the Eurocrats to take in "Syrian" refugees who were visibly of east Asian or sub-Saharan African ethnicity, and who spoke no Arabic nor any other local language from Syria.

That's a big part of the reason those countries said, enough of this crap, and started putting up really serious border fences. They realized they were being played on a huge scale.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 24, 2016 12:50 AM (noWW6)

180 So, yeah, I'll pull the lever for Trump - we could do a lot worse.

And we will. Deservedly so.

When Hillary gets to pack SCOTUS with 7 liberals who will finish the job that FDR started, at least we'll be able to tell our grandkids about how we got to vote for the long-forgotten TV celebrity Manchurian Candidate who lost and paved the way to American Mediocrity.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 12:51 AM (KRwzj)

181 I like very much that the good Dr. Carson is schlonging Katshit.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 24, 2016 12:51 AM (GzDYP)

182 No. even at the time, some people were passionate Reagan partisans who called him a genius.


There are people who call Barbara Boxer a genius. Macht nichts.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 24, 2016 12:51 AM (oKE6c)

183 Trump's offense has made no sense. He goes after Cruz who is number two, and... Bush hovering in 4th or 5th place.

It's going to be interesting to see if he switches gears if Rubio gets another 2nd place win.


Seems unnecessary. Rubio's too little, too late. Trump won by taking out the establishment favorite early, then going after his only competition for the anti-establishment crowd.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 24, 2016 12:51 AM (9MbCY)

184 Trump is just awesome!!

Posted by: Kreplach at February 24, 2016 12:51 AM (ILoaF)

185 Posted by: End of the Republic

Thank you for calling. Your concern is [noted].
If you'd like to hear this again, press 1.
To check your concern status on another thread, press 2.

Posted by: AoSHQ Concern Hotline at February 24, 2016 12:51 AM (zmW4B)

186 >>>
There are people who call Barbara Boxer a genius. Macht nichts

Ja? Wer?

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 12:51 AM (dciA+)

187 ace, I think last year in the first full flush of the "refugee" crisis, I saw a report that UNHCR estimated no more than 20% of the flow into Europe were Syrians, or refugees.


"Refugee" has a specific meaning in both international law and practice and most national legal codes and policies.


The influx into Europe - from more than a dozen countries, many of them with no active conflicts - are migrants, not refugees.


Yes I have vestiges of geekdom on this matter, having toiled in that vineyard for a time (refugees/displaced persons/conflict zones/humanitarian aid) - but this is pretty important.


Mass migration for all the usual reasons (both work AND welfare, in Europe's case) is not a refugee crisis. And the only "humanitarian" crisis is the one created by insanely irresponsible and stupid German govt. rhetoric, and idiocy from the EU and a few other select member countries.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 24, 2016 12:52 AM (QDnY+)

188 I was at the caucuses, and chaired one of the precincts. So here's the lowdown of what happened at my caucus location (36 precincts in one of the most Republican part of Clark County).

There was a huge line and they let people in at 5 P.M. Unfortunatly not all the volunteers had gotten their materials and people were crowding around tiny tables (for the most part) and signing in without showing ID. For my part I had everyone show me ID before I handed them a ballot.

Huge line for my precinct and many others. Most people came and went before 6 P.M.

At 6 P.M. surrogates for the candidates could give a quick spiel. At my location we got Mrs. Carson, Glenn Beck for Cruz, Donald Trump was there himself, and Rubio's brother a bit after that.

Got to chat with the few people who hung around after that. I talked about all the Muslim rapists in Europe, Obama's Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing, and a bunch of other stuff. They hadn't heard about that mentioning that CNN and FoxNews hadn't reported stuff like that!.

Of note, there were a lot of people who were unemployed who voted for Trump... a lot. And that's coming from one of the better off areas around Vegas.

Also, there were plenty of people there taking pictured and videotaping the actual vote.

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 24, 2016 12:52 AM (vBeA5)

189 Trump showcasing his ugly sons and 2A.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 12:52 AM (2x3L+)

190 There are people who call Barbara Boxer a genius. Macht nichts



Ja? Wer?

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 12:51 AM (dciA+)


Half the population of California. /sobs

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 24, 2016 12:52 AM (oKE6c)

191 I'm gonna send Trump an unsolicited proposal on how to re-build America's landmine manufacturing capacity.

Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2016 12:52 AM (cXiMR)

192 I want to see the Rubio apologists who have been saying Trump had a 1/3 ceiling spin Nevada.

Posted by: cm9000 at February 24, 2016 12:53 AM (2TUVm)

193 So ... your policy would be to let any Muslim in, if he or she attended one of your courses?

Because
that seemed to be the policy you've favored before. After all, they're
"nice." Most of them. Ask the people at the San Bernardino Christmas
party, you know, the ones who'd given Farouk a baby shower. The
survivors will tell you what a great guy he was. He may not have
understood resonance structures, but he was a great guy.


Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 24, 2016 12:40 AM (oKE6c)

I don't kick out the ones wearing hijabs, if they are otherwise qualified to be in my class. Would you?

Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 24, 2016 12:53 AM (uZNvH)

194 Seems unnecessary. Rubio's too little, too late. Trump won by taking out the establishment favorite early, then going after his only competition for the anti-establishment crowd.
*************************

It seems unnecessary to keep slamming Cruz as well though. Before it might have made sense but now it seems like he's kicking Cruz while he's bleeding out on the mat just for the hell of it.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 12:53 AM (qHgBB)

195 Steve Wynn is a Trump backer. Interesting.

Posted by: logprof at February 24, 2016 12:53 AM (w9ErY)

196 Trump has Steve Wynn and his wife at his rally

Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 12:53 AM (2x3L+)

197 For the Cruz supporters, did you really think Cruz had a shot in Hell in a General Election?

However much you wanted to debate his past position, ideology, etc the guy was going to be smashed to pieces by Hillary. The "no rape exception" abortion policy alone would have made him Todd Akin within a few days of getting the nom.

And they say Trump voters are delusional.

Posted by: Jim at February 24, 2016 12:53 AM (A3kYV)

198 Trump, I like the poorly educated.

Incredible!!!


Love this guy.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 24, 2016 12:54 AM (ILoaF)

199 When Hillary gets to pack SCOTUS with 7 liberals who will finish the job that FDR started, at least we'll be able to tell our grandkids about how
**********************

Or Trump wins, prosecutes Hillary, builds the wall and nominates Cruz for the SC.

I got tired of being Eeyorish so I'm dreaming big now.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 12:55 AM (qHgBB)

200 "Yes, there is a Latin America and the people populating it are hispanic
and they derive much of their culture from Spain and Portugal, not to
mention their language, which is one of the greatest determining factors
of culture."

There was a PBS series on ethnolinguistics a long damn time ago, and the host pointed out while in a Latin American country that one of the locals clumsily let something fall to the floor while on camera, and then said in Spanish, "It dropped from me."

Not "I dropped it," the host noted.

Wonder if you could make that pointed an observation today without the SJW Sicherheit descending in force.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 24, 2016 12:55 AM (noWW6)

201 Trump saying he got 46% with Hispanics, highest Hispanoc numbers

Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 12:55 AM (2x3L+)

202
who calls Trump a genius, apart from Trump or people on his payroll?

Posted by: ace
----------------
Um, read your comment section in some of the AM threads any given day.
You'd think he's the second coming of Christ.

Posted by: Chi at February 24, 2016 12:55 AM (oJOym)

203 Of course there is such a thing as a "hispanic". It's an ethnic and cultural determination. The former Spanish and Portuguese settlements became the hispanic world.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


Yes, yes, but right there, amigo, Portuguese is not "Hispanic". Portuguese is not Espanol. And just try to drag the Basque into this ....

You know as well as everyone else the term Hispanic was a desperate and racialist attempt at furthering animus and division in the West and the US in particular.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 12:55 AM (Qy3YA)

204 Mexico is going build the wall!

Love it.

Proud of your President and Proud of your Country.

Pure Trump.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 24, 2016 12:56 AM (EmUe0)

205 I'm shocked people don't get the secret to Trump's success - it's not his positions, it's not his plans and policies/

It's his attitude. You think he's crazy, well, you're entitled to your opinion, and you might be right.

Stupid? There's a saying, "If it's stupid and it works, it's not stupid."

He gets it - NEVER apologize, NEVER back down when challenged.

Always, always, repeat and amplify what your enemies say about you. Drives the berserk, and it makes people notice.

In the end, people want a leader, a head-man, a champion. It's part of our nature to admire and respect strength. And he coneys that impression very successfully.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 24, 2016 12:56 AM (lutOX)

206 there were no 'Hispanics' officially until the 1970, 80, and 90 Census. There, you could select 'Hispanic' as a race. Before that, nada


In 2000 and 2010, the next-to-last question asked if you're Hispanic. Then the last question asked your race, with 'Hispanic' NOT an option for race.


so there's that...

Posted by: Aldo Moro, Italian internet goober at February 24, 2016 12:56 AM (8CdUx)

207 Shit, if 46% of Hispanics is anywhere near to close, Trump walks away with it.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 12:56 AM (2x3L+)

208 For the Cruz supporters, did you really think Cruz had a shot in Hell in a General Election?
***********************

I really believed Cruz had an excellent chance if he had run a good campaign that was all inclusive and not tailored to pander exclusively to holy rollers and mormons.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 12:57 AM (qHgBB)

209 So, yeah, I'll pull the lever for Trump - we could do a lot worse.

And we will. Deservedly so.

When Hillary gets to pack SCOTUS with 7 liberals who will finish the job that FDR started, at least we'll be able to tell our grandkids about how we got to vote for the long-forgotten TV celebrity Manchurian Candidate who lost and paved the way to American Mediocrity.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 12:51 AM (KRwzj)


Shhh, don't let the guards hear you...

Posted by: Fellow denizen of the Gulags Hillary Fun Camps at February 24, 2016 12:57 AM (vBeA5)

210 "Steve Wynn is a Trump backer. Interesting."

They've been friends since the 1980s. If memory serves, Trump drew on Wynn for credibility and advice when initially launching the Atlantic City casino venture.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 24, 2016 12:57 AM (noWW6)

211
At my location we got...Rubio's brother
Posted by: The Political Hat



The cocaine trafficker ex-con? Dondi is sending HIM out as a character witness?

Madone!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 24, 2016 12:58 AM (kdS6q)

212 Hispanic men tell me that no Hispanic male will vote for a woman to be President of the USA.
Posted by: Meremortal at February 24, 2016 12:42 AM (3myMJ)

-------------
That may be true but several latinos have informed me they plan to vote for Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: RioBravo at February 24, 2016 12:58 AM (NUqwG)

213 FOX is even crediting Trump instead of jacking up Rubio.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 12:58 AM (2x3L+)

214 The Hispanic vote is meaningless anyway.

You get a 2-3% bump in white voters over what Romney did in 2012 and you have a big win over the Democrats.

Democrats will always run the board with hispanics, regardless of how Open Borders the Republican candidate is

After Reagan passed the mother of all amnestys, the next Republican (Bush Sr) got something like 28% of the Hispanic vote.

Posted by: Jim at February 24, 2016 12:58 AM (A3kYV)

215 Hollowpoint is right, but most of this site is so far gone and too concerned with intra-right "you think you're better than me?" resentments that they don't care. Ace is a smart guy so it's too bad he's retreated even further into the bubble that says the country's mood matches the primary electorate's.

Posted by: Observer at February 24, 2016 12:58 AM (Pa4eZ)

216 ....although I think there were several names for 'Hispanic'. "Spanish-surnamed", etc


Diversity is fun; America is f*cked. Semi-f*cked, at least.

Posted by: Aldo Moro, Italian internet goober at February 24, 2016 12:58 AM (8CdUx)

217 Not "I dropped it," the host noted.

Wonder if you could make that pointed an observation today without the SJW Sicherheit descending in force.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 24, 2016 12:55 AM (noWW6)


You're probably still free to muck around like that in Spanish. The English-speaking leftists haven't yet come to grips with the fact that Spanish (and most languages) are still fully genderized in all aspects so the left just ignores Spanish and French and the rest of those languages, for now, while they concentrate on totally neutering and destroying one of the only languages on Earth that is not genderized in any way.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 12:58 AM (zc3Db)

218 >>>
There was a PBS series on ethnolinguistics a long damn time ago, and the host pointed out while in a Latin American country that one of the locals clumsily let something fall to the floor while on camera, and then said in Spanish, "It dropped from me."

Not "I dropped it," the host noted.

Wonder if you could make that pointed an observation today without the SJW Sicherheit descending in force.

...

that kind of analysis is dumb. See John McWhorter on this enduring myth of people who don't know any better that languages shape culture or that languages have certain concepts that other languages don't have.

this is pop-linguistics. People love saying dumb things like "The American indians lived in the present, becuase they have no future tense for verbs." That's fucking dumb. Like the Japanese, they have no future tense, so they mark the future by using the present tense with a future marker -- "later on," "tomorrow," "next year."



There's nothing in spanish that makes it particularly passive. just as you can frame any statement in english in the passive, so too can you do it in spanish. doesn't make it some kind of telling clue about the culture.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 12:59 AM (dciA+)

219 "Of note, there were a lot of people who were unemployed who voted for Trump... a lot. And that's coming from one of the better off areas around Vegas."

Yep. I bet. The lies that the economy recovered are just that lies. So are the unemployment statistics.

All the anti-Trumpers, keep telling yourselves the lies it make his winning so much easier.

Two candidates are not even eligible and they don't get votes because of it but...hey "crazy birthers" and all...haha.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 24, 2016 12:59 AM (CxVwe)

220 It just feels good to see a big win and high voter turn out.
Even if it is Trump.
Seven years is a long time.

Posted by: ALH at February 24, 2016 12:59 AM (Z56vq)

221 Wynn wants to build casino in small city I live in, I voted against it twice. But they added to 2014 statewide ballot & they won.
Now Somerville (sanctuary city) has filed lawsuit about fumes from excessive traffic & I hope they win.

BRB- I have to put clothes in dryer!

Ace- THANK YOU for working Saturday & this late.

10 minutes max & I will be back.

Posted by: Carol at February 24, 2016 12:59 AM (sj3Ax)

222 I was looking forward to this election year for the past 3+ years. Now I am even more depressed than I was after Obama won in 2012. We are either going to get a socialist, an unindicted felon, or a Democrat.

Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 24, 2016 12:59 AM (uZNvH)

223 If Trump makes makes people run from his positions rather than run towards them, then why does Rubio now say he wants to build a border wall? Why did Cruz say on The O' Reilly Factor this week that he is now in favor of mass deportations? After wanting to increase the number of H-1Bs issued, why does Cruz now want an effective moratorium on this type of visa? Why does Rob Portman of all people (who is up for re-election incidentally) now oppose the TPP?

Posted by: Jessica at February 24, 2016 12:59 AM (8olbK)

224 CNN even admitting that Trump is increasing his vote share

Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 01:00 AM (2x3L+)

225 I got tired of being Eeyorish so I'm dreaming big now.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 12:55 AM (qHgBB)


Enjoy it while you can...

Posted by: Your friendly corporatist Trump at February 24, 2016 01:00 AM (vBeA5)

226 Laurie David's Cervix: "The cocaine trafficker ex-con? Dondi is sending HIM out as a character witness?"

Wait, what!? His brother was actually convicted of such a crime?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 24, 2016 01:00 AM (1CroS)

227 I really believed Cruz had an excellent chance if he had run a good campaign that was all inclusive and not tailored to pander exclusively to holy rollers and mormons.
Posted by: Burn It Down



I wanted to like Cruz, but just watching the man give a speech, I knew he would be dead on arrival in front of voters.

The hyper-religiosity was poof positive this guy would have been slaughtered in a General Election and had zero political instincts.

Posted by: Jim at February 24, 2016 01:01 AM (A3kYV)

228 Might as well accept we've chosen the form of our destructor. I, for one, am looking forward to the lefties going through the same stages of grief as the GOPe. Already I see some of them saying, "How can this be happening??"

Posted by: gewa76 at February 24, 2016 01:01 AM (9MbCY)

229 >> Maybe a Trump presidency will be such a shock to the system that some people will get a fucking clue.

Trump is the bull you send into the china shop. He's an IED. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Posted by: Rastus at February 24, 2016 01:01 AM (VjlMj)

230 Yes, yes, but right there, amigo, Portuguese is not "Hispanic". Portuguese is not Espanol.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 12:55 AM (Qy3YA)


It is to everyone but the Spanish or the Portuguese and no one really cares what they think

Seriously, it's damn close and they are culturally close, too. Close enough to distinguish either of them from everyone else but not from each other.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 01:02 AM (zc3Db)

231
"The cocaine trafficker ex-con? Dondi is sending HIM out as a character witness?"

Wait, what!? His brother was actually convicted of such a crime?
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel



http://tinyurl.com/prjlmwj

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 24, 2016 01:02 AM (kdS6q)

232 "I was looking forward to this election year for the past 3+ years. Now I am even more depressed than I was after Obama won in 2012. We are either going to get a socialist, an unindicted felon, or a Democrat."

This exactly.

Posted by: End of the Republic at February 24, 2016 01:02 AM (vaFpc)

233 Why did Cruz say on The O' Reilly Factor this week that he is now in favor of mass deportations?
**************

To be fair did he actually change his stance on this, or is he just trying to talk up what's been part of his platform only now?

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 01:02 AM (qHgBB)

234 weft @ 154, well said.


Posted by: rhomboid at February 24, 2016 01:03 AM (QDnY+)

235 Mexico is going build the wall!

Love it.


Serious question- are his supporters actually dumb enough to believe this, or is it just some sort of sloganeering rallying cry that they know is a lie?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 01:03 AM (KRwzj)

236 and Jay I'm kinda tired of this.

claiming that the San Bernardino terrorists are representative of all Muslims is like claiming a deuterium atom is representative of all hydrogen.

Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 24, 2016 01:03 AM (uZNvH)

237 Van Jones saying D's need to take Trump seriously.
That Trump is taking away D votes.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 01:03 AM (2x3L+)

238 Trump doesn't have to "ban Muslims". Just stop immigration and "refugees" from Muslim countries. And vet the shit out of anyone coming from elsewhere. In other words...become Japan.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at February 24, 2016 01:03 AM (Y0FCw)

239 Jessica: "If Trump makes makes people run from his positions rather than run towards them..."

Shush, you. You're going to mess up the Narrative. And you don't want the Unelectable elected, do you?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 24, 2016 01:03 AM (1CroS)

240 >>>If Trump makes makes people run from his positions rather than run towards them, then why does Rubio now say he wants to build a border wall?

in the GOP primary, sure. have you seen the numbers budge outside our own political camp?

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:03 AM (dciA+)

241
Brother-in-law, if one is being precise.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 24, 2016 01:03 AM (kdS6q)

242 Serious question- are his supporters actually dumb enough to believe this, or is it just some sort of sloganeering rallying cry that they know is a lie?
Posted by: Hollowpoint


What does it say about Cruz and Rubio supporters since they are also saying they are going to build a wall?

Posted by: Jim at February 24, 2016 01:04 AM (A3kYV)

243 yeah i don't know about that. the establishment opposed reagan but when he gave his concession speech at the 1976 convention, everyone wondered, "What the hell, why didn't we nominate this guy?"

He did. In 1992. Only then he was named "Pat Buchanan".

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2016 01:04 AM (6FqZa)

244 217
Not "I dropped it," the host noted.



Wonder if you could make that pointed an observation today without the SJW Sicherheit descending in force.



Posted by: torquewrench at February 24, 2016 12:55 AM (noWW6)



You're probably still free to muck around like that in Spanish. The
English-speaking leftists haven't yet come to grips with the fact that
Spanish (and most languages) are still fully genderized in all aspects
so the left just ignores Spanish and French and the rest of those
languages, for now, while they concentrate on totally neutering and
destroying one of the only languages on Earth that is not genderized in
any way.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 12:58 AM (zc3Db)


Actually, all nouns in Spanish are either male or female -- unlike English and German, which have "it". So the local could have said, "he dropped from me" or "she dropped from me", but could not have said, "it dropped from me".

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2016 01:04 AM (EzgxV)

245 this just in:

Trump is still leading in Nevada.

#Unexpectedly!

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 01:05 AM (obZhs)

246 The hyper-religiosity was poof positive this guy would have been slaughtered in a General Election and had zero political instincts.
**********************

Completely tone deaf. His embrace of Beck even when he went of his meds again and started talking up how Jesus killed Scalia just for Teddy Cruz, and this guy was still caucusing in Nevada? Holy fuck.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 01:05 AM (qHgBB)

247 "I'm gonna send Trump an unsolicited proposal on how to re-build America's landmine manufacturing capacity."

Manufacturing is only part of it. What really gutted mine production was lefty lawfare, and well-intentioned humanitarian campaigns.

Despite the fact that the U.S. had been remarkably responsible in its deployment of mines, other parties' reckless use (and used recklessly, mines are a plague) called the entire enterprise into question.

By the way, the senior Delta combatant commander on the ground at Tora Bora asked for air-sown mines to be deployed to stop bin Laden and company from exfiltrating out the back way to Poh-kee-stahn, and the Bush administration flatly turned down the request. The anti-mine hysteria having percolated that far up the chain, and having been taken that seriously.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 24, 2016 01:05 AM (noWW6)

248 So after 2012, when all of the leftwing commentariat was crowing that the Republicans need to "become more moderate" and "move to the middle" and "stop being so extremist", it looks like they were right after all, the Republican who is now leading has adopted the Democrat premises on almost every major issue of the day.

Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 24, 2016 01:05 AM (uZNvH)

249 It is to everyone but the Spanish or the Portuguese and no one really cares what they think

Seriously, it's damn close and they are culturally close, too. Close enough to distinguish either of them from everyone else but not from each other.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


Still stands; the proposition that Cubans, Mexicans, Brazilians, etc, can be smacked together in one artificial, racialist construct is nothing short of willful ignorance.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 01:05 AM (Qy3YA)

250 When Hillary gets to pack SCOTUS with 7 liberals who will finish the job that FDR started, at least we'll be able to tell our grandkids about how we got to vote for the long-forgotten TV celebrity Manchurian Candidate who lost and paved the way to American Mediocrity.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 12:51 AM (KRwzj)

*****

You and your other GOPe "Betters" really screwed the pooch when your actions, or lack thereof, allowed the rise of the Donald. This is all on y'all.

Next time, listen. Bye now.

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 01:05 AM (YLidQ)

251 When does Rubio win a state? I see Cruz getting Texas. But where does Mario notch a W?

Posted by: Darii at February 24, 2016 01:06 AM (cjog0)

252 I think John McWhorter has a new book out debunking this nonsense about minute differences in languages being somehow determinative in culture. it's a real pet peeve of his, and he's pretty convincing.

He shows you many stupid claims made along these sorts of lines and then shows you that each of them is factually wrong, like the bullshit about American indians "living in the moment" because "they have no sense of the future."

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:06 AM (dciA+)

253 CNN even admitting that Trump is increasing his vote share

You mean the Clinton News Network, which has been slobbering all over Trump's dick for the past 3 months?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 01:06 AM (KRwzj)

254 Why is noone bringing up the fact that the fraud case against trump and trump university is set for August? if he is the nominee... and gets convicted:
1. Will he beat hillary to jail?
2. This in my opinion should be hammered home more often than when trump presses cruz on natural born

Posted by: jb at February 24, 2016 01:06 AM (TRB7J)

255 in the GOP primary, sure. have you seen the numbers budge outside our own political camp?
Posted by: ace


All the polling I saw showed Cruz and Trump tied in polling vs Hillary.

Rubio had a slight edge on both of them, I can at least understand the electability argument with Rubio

But if there was anytime someone was lying to pollsters about supporting a candidate, it would be Trump. I could easily see his support be MUCh higher than polling suggests.

Similar to everytime gay marriage was on the ballot. It looked close, but then the "bigot" position won going away

Posted by: Jim at February 24, 2016 01:06 AM (A3kYV)

256 >>>> What does it say about Cruz and Rubio supporters since they are also saying they are going to build a wall?
Posted by: Jim at February 24, 2016 01:04 AM (A3kYV)
-----
And who made building a wall an issue first?
And who just repeated that talking point afterward?
What does it say about those two for not saying it first?

Answer, please?

Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 01:07 AM (2x3L+)

257 There are many things I don't like about Trump. But there are many things I am starting to like. I like him causing heads to go splody. I like that he wants to build a wall with Mexican remittances. I like that he wants to halt immigration from the Middle East "until we know what is going on" vs "let them in"...when less than 4% are Christian or known to consort with former Gitmo terrorists. Stuff like that.

If he is the nominee, sure, I will vote for him. At least I won't be drunk (if !jeb! or Katshit were the nominee). Look, morons, eight years of this Obamination have brought us where we are. Can we dig out? I'd rather have a businessman, who likes to be successful and win, give it a try vs a career politician. He likes to win. He will, hopefully, choose advisors wisely...as he is beholding to no damn K street lobbies and their pork.

I got way, way invested in 2012 and we lost. Can the Chicago way pull the Haggard Harridan out of the spinning drain? Maybe. Maybe with the illegal and dead votes. Maybe. Or maybe others will be tired of the unicorn farhts promised for eight years and either stay home.

I am no way, this time, going to get invested, emotionally, in this election process. I want to defeat the Dems. I want Hilz to squawk her way to November, shrieking and eye-popping like a Pekingese on acid, flapping her bat-wings under her Mao tunic, will proud Peyronie's Bill gawping and drooling behind her. As long as she loses I do not care. This is my policy and bite moi.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 24, 2016 01:07 AM (1uwuc)

258 Serious question- are his supporters actually dumb enough to believe this, or is it just some sort of sloganeering rallying cry that they know is a lie?
Posted by: Hollowpoint
***********************

I happen to believe it, or that he will at least try. He's been forceful and on message with this for a long time. It's when he waffles a bit that I know he's just bullshitting us, like with healthcare.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 01:07 AM (qHgBB)

259 jb, I didn't hear about that. Is it civil or criminal? Link?

Posted by: Darii at February 24, 2016 01:07 AM (cjog0)

260 @235

There is actually fund allocated in the 2004 budget to build the wall.

He literally has to do nothing than follow the law to implement his plan - NOTHING.


And here's the thing, we are on trajectory to have a full on crack up regardless if we elect a President Cruz so, I say, lets see what the wild card can do.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 24, 2016 01:08 AM (ILoaF)

261 Laurie David's Cervix: "http://tinyurl.com/prjlmwj"

Thanks for the link.

It just keeps getting better, doesn't it? THIS is the new face of the GOP that is going to reform the country.

I hope Trump the Bull blows through DC even faster and harder, forward and backward... and then nukes it from orbit just to be sure.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 24, 2016 01:09 AM (1CroS)

262 Wasn't even close.

Trump is going to be the nominee. For those who want to stop amnesty and save the Supreme Court, time to get on board. Let's do this.

Posted by: Mr. Estrada at February 24, 2016 01:09 AM (oZ8G6)

263 >>>You're probably still free to muck around like that in Spanish. The
English-speaking leftists haven't yet come to grips with the fact that
Spanish (and most languages) are still fully genderized in all aspects
so the left just ignores Spanish and French and the rest of those
languages, for now, while they concentrate on totally neutering and
destroying one of the only languages on Earth that is not genderized in
any way.

...

no one in any language sees the "gender" of a noun as anything more than a grammatical construct. this is something that english speakers think upon learning the language for the first month, because their own language is "natural gender" (that is, you refer to things by their actual biological gender -- a female horse is a "she" because it's female, not because the word "horse" is grammatically female).

No one in any language using "gender" in nouns ever thinks twice about this past the second month of learning. It collapses entirely as a concept having any reality to it, and becomes what it actually is, a purely grammatical convention.

In French, a girl's tits is masculine, and some names for the penis are female. No one actually thinks that tits are masculine or dicks are female.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:09 AM (dciA+)

264 The hyper-religiosity was poof positive this guy would have been slaughtered in a General Election and had zero political instincts.
**********************

Completely tone deaf. His embrace of Beck even when he went of his meds again and started talking up how Jesus killed Scalia just for Teddy Cruz, and this guy was still caucusing in Nevada? Holy fuck.
Posted by: Burn It Down




I just think people outside of those circles don't understand how crazy it sounds, and this is coming from a conservative Christian.

Posted by: Jim at February 24, 2016 01:09 AM (A3kYV)

265 Still stands; the proposition that Cubans, Mexicans, Brazilians, etc, can be smacked together in one artificial, racialist construct is nothing short of willful ignorance.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 01:05 AM (Qy3YA)


Not racial, but clearly ethnic and cultural. You know, there's a reason that nearly all of central and south america have had many common threads running through their histories - and threads which have not existed in America or Canada ... not until Barky, frankly.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 01:09 AM (zc3Db)

266 According to at least one poll, 20 percent of likely Democratic voters say they would vote for Trump. Obviously, he's made an impact outside the GOP camp.

Posted by: Jessica at February 24, 2016 01:09 AM (8olbK)

267 218
>>>

There was a PBS series on ethnolinguistics a long damn time ago, and
the host pointed out while in a Latin American country that one of the
locals clumsily let something fall to the floor while on camera, and
then said in Spanish, "It dropped from me."



Not "I dropped it," the host noted.



Wonder if you could make that pointed an observation today without the SJW Sicherheit descending in force.



...



that kind of analysis is dumb. See John McWhorter on this enduring
myth of people who don't know any better that languages shape culture or
that languages have certain concepts that other languages don't have.



this is pop-linguistics. People love saying dumb things like "The
American indians lived in the present, becuase they have no future tense
for verbs." That's fucking dumb. Like the Japanese, they have no future
tense, so they mark the future by using the present tense with a future
marker -- "later on," "tomorrow," "next year."







There's nothing in spanish that makes it particularly passive. just
as you can frame any statement in english in the passive, so too can you
do it in spanish. doesn't make it some kind of telling clue about the
culture.



Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 12:59 AM (dciA+)


Spanish has a couple of nifty quirks. There are two different past tenses, depending on whether "it happened this way" [once] or "it used-to happen this way" [continually], and it has a beautiful way of conjugating the subjunctive (things that didn't/won't happen: "If I were a rich man...." -- which, BTW, you never fully appreciate in its crippled version in English until you see it in full flower in some other tongue).

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2016 01:10 AM (EzgxV)

268 The only thing I believe about Trump is he's not an America-hating Marxist, so that puts him above Obama, Hillary, and Bernie.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 24, 2016 01:10 AM (9MbCY)

269
re: Rubio's brother

Apparently there's also an older brother named Mario Rubio.

Both he and the drug-runner have appeared at campaign events, so not sure which one you saw.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 24, 2016 01:10 AM (kdS6q)

270 Trump is over 50% in Massachusetts polls. I stopped listening to Rush & local NE radio host Howie Carr because of Trump love.

Howie has 2-3 columns in Boston "conservative" newspaper & they have been pro trump since he announced.

Howie has all over his website "New England Radio King" & if I am in my car, I listen to Hannity instead.

Posted by: Carol at February 24, 2016 01:10 AM (sj3Ax)

271 Trump isn't going to prison...it's a civil trial.

Posted by: Skeezix at February 24, 2016 01:11 AM (WnCSK)

272 Hi. Just walked in from driving home, listening to Fox radio news report, Midnight Central Time.

Trump wins. Blaring quote from the loudmouth about winning 40-something percent of the Mexican vote. God, I don't think I could take four years of that guy.

Rubio a solid second. Some blather about Rubio's people staying in and thinking he can still make it.

Then, the percentages on Carson and Kasick.

Um...

Can someone please tell me when Cruz dropped out?

Fox News - unfairly unbalanced!

Posted by: mindful webworker - say what? at February 24, 2016 01:11 AM (Jcvz2)

273 What is the absolutely bizarre couch-fainting over deportation?


Deportation is a basic tool of immigration enforcement, in every country with a functioning govt. on Earth. Duh. Without it, there is essentially no meaning to immigration/visa laws, etc.


It's routine. It's normal. It happens across the world every day. It has never even been a topic of discussion in any serious international discussion of human rights, or any agreement or customary law.


Imagine criminal law lacking the sanction of incarceration. Or tax law lacking the punishment of fines. That is immigration law (in all countries, all the time) without deportation.


Infantile moral narcissism and ignorance are a yuuuuge factor in America's decline. Skittishness about deportation is a fairly pristine example of this analytical debility.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 24, 2016 01:11 AM (QDnY+)

274 like i said, McWhorter is pretty big on this stuff and shows how silly all these ideas are.

by the way they're usually pushed by multiculturalist types trying to praise foreign cultures for having more "enlightened" or anti-capitalist ideas (like "Indians living in the moment").

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:11 AM (dciA+)

275 I'll tell you why Trump is doing so well with hispanics, using an example from history.

During the Clinton presidency (the only Clinton presidency, God willing), the Republican congress passed a bill calling for a 25-year mandatory minimum sentence for crack possession.

Despite lefties decrying the bill as racist (because crack is a "black man's drug", a racist sentiment in and of itself, truth be told), Clinton went ahead and signed that bill into law... and his poll numbers immediately IMPROVED with black voters.

Why do you suppose that is? I'll tell you why... black people don't want crackheads running around free in their neighborhoods any more than white people do.

Similarly, hispanics don't want illegal aliens running around free in their neighborhoods any more than white people do.

With all due respect to Ben Carson, it's not exactly brain surgery.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps; mtcmtmail= at February 24, 2016 01:11 AM (0OG8D)

276 238
Trump doesn't have to "ban Muslims". Just stop immigration and
"refugees" from Muslim countries. And vet the shit out of anyone coming
from elsewhere. In other words...become Japan.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at February 24, 2016 01:03 AM (Y0FCw)


A points-based immigration system that gives no weight to race, does give positive marks for speaking English, and is otherwise based entirely on a measure of whether you're likely to be a productive citizen or a drag on the system would go a long way.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 01:11 AM (J+mig)

277 Serious question- are his supporters actually dumb enough to believe this, or is it just some sort of sloganeering rallying cry that they know is a lie?
Posted by: Hollowpoint


Negotiation starting point.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at February 24, 2016 01:11 AM (1D4Ef)

278 Not a Trump fan. BUT, I take great pleasure for now watching the establishment dinks squirm.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 24, 2016 01:11 AM (jmRIP)

279 well said.

Posted by: rhomboid


Thanks. I'm surprised you could make heads or tails out of that mush.

'Half dashed of tripe,' as James Lilkes categorized it.


Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 01:11 AM (Qy3YA)

280 >>>> You mean the Clinton News Network, which has been slobbering all over Trump's dick for the past 3 months?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 01:06 AM
-----
I guess you haven't watched CNN or MSNBC lately then?
They're all whores in it for the money and perfectly happy to slobber all over Trumps dick to earn their attention and dollars

Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 01:11 AM (2x3L+)

281 According to Drudge, Reuters rolling has Trumpus Maximus breaking through 40% nationally. Starting shooting up from his low-mid 30s ceiling after the SC win. And 41% is what has so far in NV.

If this was Rubes or Jeborah, they'd be declaring him the winner and getting the crown and robes ready for the coronation.

And Trumpus Maximus, in his victory speech repeated the line that he's gonna keep Gitmo open and "load it up" with the "bad dudes out there".

Ivanka wasn't there. She's about to pop, I think.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at February 24, 2016 01:12 AM (dvuhZ)

282 Trump's strategy usually makes sense. Alright, he also enjoyed kicking Jeb's ass. which also makes sense.
***************************
I still wish he would extend his hand out to Rubio and crush his skull, even if that approach is not needed to secure the nomination.

Ah well, at least his camp suggested that Rubio was an ineligible anchor baby. Heh.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 01:13 AM (qHgBB)

283 "What does it say about Cruz and Rubio supporters since they are also saying they are going to build a wall?"

Not only has Cruz been stealing Trump's positions he's been stealing Trump's slogans too.

Cruz is so desperate he's telling his audiences of 100's that we are going to make America great again and we are going to win and get so sick of winning.

It's amazing that he has no shame whatsoever.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 24, 2016 01:13 AM (CxVwe)

284 What are the chances that Trump wins Nevada so big it leaves the media pundits with nothing to say?

I'm trying to think of a word that would describe it :

incoherent
befuddled
apoplectic

swoon - as in fainted
stunned - seems too weak, needs more punch
high anxiety - still to weak
denial, delusional, disbelief
crack up, driven 'round the bend, wandering aimless looking for the missing strawberries



Posted by: John the Baptist at February 24, 2016 01:13 AM (b6qi2)

285 Reagan had a long developed (mostly) conservative philosophy and was smarter than he got credit for. But people in their 30's were more conservative then, more rooted to real life, as a whole. Those people are in their 60's now, and the US is a different people. The commie plan to tear us down has been at work for thirty more years, effectively turning many to the left, and to the hate America side.

Trump IS running on positions but not specifics. Not just "Trump". Immigration, borders, trade ... not anxious for war but prepared. His two sons were up with him tonight, big NRA guys. His 40% ceiling was really a 30% floor. He doesn't have to win people to those key positions, he just has to get people over some of his Trumpiness. He already has big majorities on the positions. Common core is another.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 24, 2016 01:13 AM (eUbDe)

286 Serious question- are his supporters actually dumb enough to believe this, or is it just some sort of sloganeering rallying cry that they know is a lie?
Posted by: Hollowpoint

Negotiation starting point.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely



Why is a physical barrier such a crazy idea when you have a million or so people EVERY YEAR coming in here illegally?

Is it the cost issue? The federal government probably spends that every 4 weeks.

Posted by: Jim at February 24, 2016 01:13 AM (A3kYV)

287 Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 24, 2016 01:07 AM (1uwuc)

Cut jib etc etc

Posted by: Mega at February 24, 2016 01:13 AM (JwLCI)

288 ugh, this is too depressing.
good night all, gonna try to get some rest

Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 24, 2016 01:14 AM (uZNvH)

289
Hmm -- link for brother Mario Rubio didn't make it.

http://tinyurl.com/jkrw9jn

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 24, 2016 01:14 AM (kdS6q)

290 So Trump is going to be the nominee. I hate to sound like an idiot, but that just occurred to me.

Wisdom comes slow for some of us, but when it comes I like to think it brings great insight.

Posted by: Max Power at February 24, 2016 01:14 AM (QCc6B)

291 Not racial, but clearly ethnic and cultural. You know, there's a reason that nearly all of central and south america have had many common threads running through their histories - and threads which have not existed in America or Canada ... not until Barky, frankly.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


Ok, I'll ask the stupid question, "You aren't suggesting that leftists aren't using the definition of 'hispanic' as a route to accusing others of racism?"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 01:14 AM (Qy3YA)

292 No one actually thinks that tits are masculine or dicks are female.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:09 AM (dciA+)


Actually, that is exactly what kids in Kindergarted through Graduate school are taught. Men can have boobies, and women can have a penis; this is the "truth" of critical gender studies classes.

Posted by: The Cis-Het Hat at February 24, 2016 01:15 AM (vBeA5)

293 288 ugh, this is too depressing.
good night all, gonna try to get some rest


Agreed...

Posted by: donna at February 24, 2016 01:15 AM (/dSsq)

294 No one actually thinks that tits are masculine or dicks are female.
----------------

Too. Many. Jokes...........

Posted by: Mega at February 24, 2016 01:15 AM (JwLCI)

295 I'm not going to compare Trump to Reagan, but I have ZERO problem understanding he's be better for this country than Hillary.

Any "conservative" that says differently is just nursing some sour grapes about "their guy" losing badly.

Posted by: Jim at February 24, 2016 01:15 AM (A3kYV)

296 Cruz must stay in. The MFM spin will be that he must give way to Rubio as the only alternative to Trump. Fuck that.

Posted by: cm9000 at February 24, 2016 01:16 AM (2TUVm)

297 230
Yes, yes, but right there, amigo, Portuguese is not "Hispanic". Portuguese is not Espanol.



Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 12:55 AM (Qy3YA)



It is to everyone but the Spanish or the Portuguese and no one really cares what they think



Seriously, it's damn close and they are culturally close, too.
Close enough to distinguish either of them from everyone else but not
from each other.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 01:02 AM (zc3Db)


If you speak Spanish, you can 95% eavesdrop Portuguese and 90% eavesdrop Italian.

Posted by: cthulhu, the shameless eavesdropper at February 24, 2016 01:16 AM (EzgxV)

298 There are no chicks with dicks, only dudes with tits.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at February 24, 2016 01:16 AM (dvuhZ)

299 Time for Rubio to drop out. He can't win because Trump will torch him on immigration.

Posted by: El_Terrible at February 24, 2016 01:16 AM (QMlzC)

300 I doubt Trump could screw things up any worse than they all ready are. Considering he cant button up his suit because the Secret Service forced him to wear a vest under it, and he has concealed gun on him with a permit.

Add the fact exit polling shows people are upset with the Government at 52% on average seems to me the base should be some what pleased with the way things are turning out.

For the most part im pleased to see the Libs in fear and the GOP/RNC having their clocked clean on national TV, hell for that reason a lone I'll vote for the guy. This has been a long time coming that's for sure, well over due.

Posted by: Frodus at February 24, 2016 01:16 AM (yp/Rb)

301 #283: Misfortune Pestilence at February 24, 2016 01:13 AM (CxVwe)
R u joking? Is there a \sarc I missed? No. plain ignorant: google /youtube up Cruz hammering away on building a wall in his race to win Texas Senatorship in 2012. then apologize to this thread for ur ignorance.

Posted by: jb at February 24, 2016 01:16 AM (TRB7J)

302 299 Time for Rubio to drop out. He can't win because Trump will torch him on immigration.


Probably, but Cruz has done worse...

Posted by: donna at February 24, 2016 01:17 AM (/dSsq)

303 Why is a physical barrier such a crazy idea when you have a million or so people EVERY YEAR coming in here illegally?
*********************
Because walls are racist.

And not just racist, but it proves you are not a Christian either, so saith the pope.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 01:17 AM (qHgBB)

304 Cruz finally speaking on CNN.

Posted by: logprof at February 24, 2016 01:17 AM (w9ErY)

305 >>.Spanish has a couple of nifty quirks. There are two different past tenses, depending on whether "it happened this way" [once] or "it used-to happen this way" [continually],

we have that too.

English: It was raining when the thunder sounded.

French (same deal as Spanish but I know it better): Il pleuvait, quand le tonnere sonna.

The first verb is the imperfect, which corresponds, approximately, to "was raining," while the second is the narrative past corresponding to "sounded." (Though the french don't use the simple past for this like we do, usually using the "have sounded," but here I used the simple past.)

The thing is, actually, pretty much all the things we do in English they do in other languages.

with the exception, as you point out, of the subjunctive, which we actually do use, but people aren't really aware of it, because for only a couple of verbs does the subjunctive differ from the indicative.

I demand that you BE here on time.

But apart from "To be" and, I think, "will" becoming "would" (She hoped that he would stop hitting her), we don't really have the subjunctive, to the point where people learning a foreign language think they're learning a foreign concept, when they're not; it exists in english, we just kind of don't acknowledge it. We just know that "to be" does some funky things when it folows the word "that."

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:17 AM (dciA+)

306 >>>62 If the GOPe wanted to knock out Trump they should have made a better offer - slot on Walking Dead where he slays Rick and raises his kid or Game of Thrones (the dragons now work for Trump).
Posted by: East Bay Jay
--------

I thought he'd already achieved the latter.
https://youtu.be/I0tE6T-ecmg

Posted by: KillianThyme at February 24, 2016 01:18 AM (n2r4H)

307 Trump 1 Pope 0

Posted by: Skeezix at February 24, 2016 01:18 AM (WnCSK)

308 Serious question. What is that magic invisible line in the sand where you decide to stop talking and no shit raise the black flag and start slitting throats? I realize this gets asked a lot. My point though is I see Trump's success as a kind of sign of the times that things are headed in this direction. War is a radical business.

Posted by: Rastus at February 24, 2016 01:18 AM (VjlMj)

309
Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:09 AM (dciA+)


You would have said the same exact thing about English words like "chairman" (and most would have agreed with you) but the English-speaking left didn't see it that way. They couldn't allow words like "chairman" to continue - as the word "man" so offended them. There is little difference between that and the gender constructions in other languages.

And my point was not that the genderized languages had anything other than grammatical issues, the fact that they are genderized is what the left so abhors, not whether anyone cares about the genderized nature of it.

you read something into my comment that wasn't there. I think it's a lingering effect of your dislike of my assertion that language molds culture - which it most certainly does. Of course, much of that is because the initial culture that formed the language built it to their own specifications and nature.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 01:18 AM (zc3Db)

310 @218 but Ace, "it dropped from me" is NOT passive --- it's intransitive. Passive would be "it was dropped".

Posted by: Trotsky w/a thesis in his headwound at February 24, 2016 01:20 AM (Y4Gwv)

311 I'm voting Cruz in primary March 1 & staying home election day. First time ever but my vote is overridden by MA Libs!

Posted by: Carol at February 24, 2016 01:20 AM (sj3Ax)

312 or at least I assume that the spanish will track with the french. I know the french imperfect is used for "habitual action," which is a usage that it doesn't have in english.

in english you'd have to say "I used to go to the movies a lot," whereas in French you could say "j'allais a la cinema souvent."

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:20 AM (dciA+)

313 I'm depressed.... I don't like any of the Candidates.... Luckily being from CA. I doesn't matter about My vote....

Posted by: donna at February 24, 2016 01:20 AM (/dSsq)

314
But apart from "To be" and, I think, "will" becoming "would" (She hoped that he would stop hitting her), we don't really have the subjunctive, to the point where people learning a foreign language think they're learning a foreign concept, when they're not; it exists in english, we just kind of don't acknowledge it. We just know that "to be" does some funky things when it folows the word "that."

Posted by: ace


You should really study Japanese. It's much more relaxing. Except for the formal, and super formal, and ...

Nevermind.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 01:21 AM (Qy3YA)

315 Ok, I'll ask the stupid question, "You aren't suggesting that leftists aren't using the definition of 'hispanic' as a route to accusing others of racism?"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 01:14 AM (Qy3YA)


Leftists use everything to accuse others (in projection) of nasty racism and all sorts of evils that the leftists feel in themselves. That doesn't take away from the fact that hispanic is a real categorization.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 01:21 AM (zc3Db)

316 I was taught years ago, and this really wasn't true, that "gender" is really a grammatical term, and "sex" is what we use for you know, XX vs XY.

I think that was what a lot of grammarians *wanted* to be years ago, but it wasn't really so. Anyway, I liked the idea of that distinction.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at February 24, 2016 01:21 AM (dvuhZ)

317 rhomboid: "What is the absolutely bizarre couch-fainting over deportation?"

"Deportation" is to be the next no-no word in the never-ending series of Leftist vocabulary. Make use of the word toxic; make the policy toxic; then, as ultimate goal, make "you" toxic. It's a formula.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 24, 2016 01:21 AM (1CroS)

318 252
I think John McWhorter has a new book out debunking this nonsense about
minute differences in languages being somehow determinative in culture.
it's a real pet peeve of his, and he's pretty convincing.



He shows you many stupid claims made along these sorts of lines and
then shows you that each of them is factually wrong, like the bullshit
about American indians "living in the moment" because "they have no
sense of the future."





Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:06 AM (dciA+)


It goes back to the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis that I first learned about via Heinlein. Modern academia likes to pretend that it's "thoroughly discredited", while those outside academia tend to think, "contains a good bit of common sense."

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2016 01:21 AM (EzgxV)

319 >>>you read something into my comment that wasn't there. I think it's a lingering effect of your dislike of my assertion that language molds culture - which it most certainly does. Of course, much of that is because the initial culture that formed the language built it to their own specifications and nature.

you think the culture that created modern english, around shakespeare's time, has much to do with current american culture?

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:21 AM (dciA+)

320 I'm voting Cruz in primary March 1 & staying home election day. First time ever but my vote is overridden by MA Libs!
Posted by: Carol



That's the spirit! I guess you showed 'em

Too bad the conservative movement can't have more like you

Posted by: Jim at February 24, 2016 01:22 AM (A3kYV)

321 Not a Trump fan. BUT, I take great pleasure for now watching the establishment dinks squirm.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 24, 2016 01:11 AM (jmRIP)


When we are in the Gulag Hillary Fun Camp, you may have the honor of shiving the establishment folk

Posted by: The Political Shiv at February 24, 2016 01:22 AM (vBeA5)

322 "R u joking? Is there a \sarc I missed? No. plain ignorant: google /youtube up Cruz hammering away on building a wall in his race to win Texas Senatorship in 2012. then apologize to this thread for ur ignorance."

Blah, blah, blah. No apology.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 24, 2016 01:22 AM (CxVwe)

323 Not Cruz's best....

Posted by: Skeezix at February 24, 2016 01:23 AM (WnCSK)

324 >>.It goes back to the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis that I first learned about via Heinlein. Modern academia likes to pretend that it's "thoroughly discredited", while those outside academia tend to think, "contains a good bit of common sense."

well yes that's the one -- and it is pretty daft.

like i said, it's also not true. If the American Indians don't think about the future because they don't have a future tense, shall we say the same about the hyper-futuristic Japanese, who also just use the present tense with a future time marker?

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:23 AM (dciA+)

325 I'm voting Cruz in primary March 1 & staying home election day. First time ever but my vote is overridden by MA Libs! Posted by: Carol
********************

If you voted for Romneycare Romney you can vote for Trump. Choose the form of your destructor.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 01:23 AM (qHgBB)

326 I believe Trump is grooming Brown Shirts.

Glenn Beck

Posted by: Jessica at February 24, 2016 01:24 AM (8olbK)

327 >>>
You should really study Japanese. It's much more relaxing. Except for the formal, and super formal, and ...

Nevermind.

...

wow you know japanese? I would like to learn some, some day.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:24 AM (dciA+)

328 Cthulhu-
Hi!

Posted by: Carol at February 24, 2016 01:25 AM (sj3Ax)

329 So unless I'm mistaken: Cruz won Iowa but has been placing third ever since?

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 01:25 AM (qHgBB)

330 Cruz is taking my advice to talk about the tangible benefits of electing him -- "Wages will go up, graduates will have 4 or 5 job offers."

I'm so proud.

by the way, I wrote his campaign slogan "Courageous Conservatism."

I was asked to write his endorsement of Mike Flynn, and I came up with that phrase, which Cruz has apparently now adopted like the dickens.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:25 AM (dciA+)

331 Beck is a stupid twat....much more harm than good

Posted by: Skeezix at February 24, 2016 01:25 AM (WnCSK)

332 "You and your other GOPe "Betters" really screwed the pooch when your
actions, or lack thereof, allowed the rise of the Donald. This is all on
y'all.



Next time, listen. Bye now."
---
^^^^ this^^^^
times 1,000,000

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 01:26 AM (obZhs)

333 TRUMP/THE WALL/THE GUN
2016
NO MORE BETA MALES IN THE WHITE HOUSE!
'nuff said

Posted by: Myshiba at February 24, 2016 01:26 AM (n20xt)

334 Cruz sounded confident in his speech.

Posted by: logprof at February 24, 2016 01:26 AM (207O6)

335 ace @ #240 - the "numbers" outside our camp on common sense sovereignty and rule of law on immigration (not weasel words), I am fairly sure, are very good.


I don't think amnesty gets a majority even in the "Hispanic" community (leaving that mud-wrassle aside for the moment). It sure as hell is opposed by healthy super-majorities, otherwise.


One problem is getting decent polling data. Cuz the questions. When posed seriously and fairly, amnesty is wildly unpopular, and border security is wildly popular. (yes, an outlier of sorts in a country that seems pretty clueless, but there we are)


There's a reason the only insanely stupid, outrageously unfair, unjust, irresponsible "idea" of the Beltway cretin class (and its army of LIV churches, businesses, et al) in the last decade that has *not* been imposed on the country is amnesty. Remember 2006? Remember these cretinous freaks not doing a single thing about it when they had Congress and the WH in 2009-2010? Uh huh.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 24, 2016 01:27 AM (QDnY+)

336 English used to have grammatical genders: masculine, feminine, and neuter.

English used to have a dual case in addition to plural and singular.

English used to use the letter "Þ" (thorn).

Posted by: Þe Political Hat at February 24, 2016 01:27 AM (vBeA5)

337 Ace, I think you should learn Hebrew before Japanese or any Eastern language.

That's just what I think. That would be very cool.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 01:27 AM (2x3L+)

338 HAH! I should have known The Political Hat would be summoned to this thread to speak of the "Thorn" letter...

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:27 AM (dciA+)

339 I was (and still am, I guess) a Cruz guy.But yes, he has been extremely disappointing recently> I backed him because of his Constitutional acumen. I thought he was smart enough to figure out how to campaign in this secular era while maintaining his religiosity. Ooops. Luckily, like one of the commenters above, I vowed to never get emotionally involved again after 2012, and I'm merely disappointed instead of shattered. I have maintained that if it came down to Trump vs Hillary, we're done anyway, so I might as well go with the guy who at least can pretend not to hate me.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at February 24, 2016 01:28 AM (Y0FCw)

340 "You and your other GOPe "Betters" really screwed the pooch when your actions, or lack thereof, allowed the rise of the Donald. This is all on y'all.
***********************

Yep.

If the GOPe had any sense they would have been all smoochie smoochie on the Donald from the beginning, which would have instantly assured his demise as just another establishment candidate.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 01:28 AM (qHgBB)

341 I still say most right-leaning people "come home" and vote Trump over Hillary with sort of a Perot thing going for him and picking up disaffected white, working class voters.

Posted by: Jim at February 24, 2016 01:28 AM (A3kYV)

342 Will Beck pull a Jim Jones if Trump is the nominee?

Posted by: Jessica at February 24, 2016 01:28 AM (8olbK)

343
So unless I'm mistaken: Cruz won Iowa but has been placing third ever since?
Posted by: Burn It Down



NickBaumann

Trump 2 1 1 1
Rubio 3 5 2 2
Cruz 1 3 3 3

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 24, 2016 01:29 AM (kdS6q)

344 I'm really trying but I just can't bring myself to like Trump.... Something about Him I don't trust...

Posted by: donna at February 24, 2016 01:29 AM (/dSsq)

345 I believe Trump is grooming Brown Shirts.

Glenn Beck

Posted by: Jessica at February 24, 2016 01:24 AM (8olbK)

*****

My Irony meter just blew a Fetzer valve.

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 01:29 AM (YLidQ)

346 >>>Ace, I think you should learn Hebrew before Japanese or any Eastern language.

If i'm going to learn a language so far from English it's gonna be Chinese or Japanese

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:30 AM (dciA+)

347 Leftists use everything to accuse others (in
projection) of nasty racism and all sorts of evils that the leftists
feel in themselves. That doesn't take away from the fact that hispanic
is a real categorization.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 01:21 AM (zc3Db)


How is hispanic a real categorization?

Posted by: cm9000 at February 24, 2016 01:30 AM (2TUVm)

348 I'm really trying but I just can't bring myself to like Trump.... Something about Him I don't trust...
**************************

It's probably the hair. I suspect that it's a combover.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 01:30 AM (qHgBB)

349 Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:20 AM (dciA+)

English is unique and very different from Spanish or French or pretty much any other language that I'm aware of. Other languages have set verbs and nouns and form the bulk of their sentence structure with the verb, including in it the action and the time (and sometimes the object). English is very free form in its construction. We don't really have nay "verbs" or "nouns". We have only words that take on their grammatical significance only as they are put into a phrase with the prepositions and time structure (helping "verbs" and the word used as verb) making determinations for which words are verbs and which are nouns and the like. None of the romance languages do this because their sentences are centered on the verb (which carries the bulk of the structure in its form) and its action. English is most concerned with TIME. When something happened, how long it went on for, when it ended, ... which is why we have so many tenses. These are not tenses of any single verb but tense structures that take any word to use a verb in that time frame.

The method of thinking to speak in English is very different from most other languages (that I'm aware of) and that leads to very different cultures (though a culture can bend English to its will over a long enough period).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 01:30 AM (zc3Db)

350 348 I'm really trying but I just can't bring myself to like Trump.... Something about Him I don't trust...
**************************

It's probably the hair. I suspect that it's a combover.


LOL, I wish it was that simple!

Posted by: donna at February 24, 2016 01:31 AM (/dSsq)

351 Didn't Beck say recently that Cruz was the leader to lead the US through the Rapture?

So, we had Scalia was struck down by God to wake up the voters. Then the Fast for Cruz, and then the Rapture.

He jumped the shark with me a while back when he started handing out teddy bears to the kids crossing the border, so this way beyond that. It's getting into mental case territory.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at February 24, 2016 01:31 AM (dvuhZ)

352 Trump 2 1 1 1
Rubio 3 5 2 2
Cruz 1 3 3 3
**************************

Thanks for confirming!

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 01:31 AM (qHgBB)

353 Ace I love ya. Read every day. But forget Cruz. He turns too many off. My mom is sick to death of Obama, who she voted for. Is scared of Trump not sure what to think of him. But absolutely can't stand Cruz thinking as you said he's too "Jesusy". She reads the paper every day but I would still consider get to be an LIV. But she will vote. Take it how you will.

Posted by: Soulpatchtony at February 24, 2016 01:31 AM (m40v5)

354 344 I'm really trying but I just can't bring myself to like Trump.... Something about Him I don't trust... Posted by: donna at February 24, 2016 01:29 AM (/dSsq)


Take it from one of the Tea Party people who helped put Rubio on the national stage and has regretted it ever since...
NEVER trust a politician: Yours, theirs, anybody's. Just don't.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 01:31 AM (J+mig)

355 you think the culture that created modern english, around shakespeare's time, has much to do with current american culture?

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:21 AM (dciA+)


Yes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 01:31 AM (zc3Db)

356 Glenn Beck: "I believe Trump is grooming Brown Shirts."

Turns out, Trump's also exposing charlatans.

I can't believe I used to be a big fan of Beck's. I've certainly evolved on that issue.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 24, 2016 01:31 AM (1CroS)

357 If the GOPe had any sense they would have been all smoochie smoochie on the Donald from the beginning, which would have instantly assured his demise as just another establishment candidate.
Posted by: Burn It Down


Had the GOP at least pretended to care about illegal immigration over the last 10 years, Trump would have never gotten off the ground.

Conservatives understand this issue is an existential battle. They are seeing it in their neighborhoods and understand the other stuff like Capital gain tax rates are meaningless.

Posted by: Jim at February 24, 2016 01:32 AM (A3kYV)

358 Whoa...approaching 50%

15% reporting


Trump 46.4%

Rubio 23.7

Cruz 20.3

Carson 5.6




Posted by: Meremortal at February 24, 2016 01:32 AM (3myMJ)

359 I want Cruz, but watching the Trumpster go just kicks ass!

Posted by: Miley's Tongue dba Ylva of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy at February 24, 2016 01:32 AM (odjaN)

360 I speak Japanese, fluently, lived there for years. Japanese is a contextual language. Present vs future tense, when not explicitly stated, is implied from context.

Posted by: Rastus at February 24, 2016 01:32 AM (VjlMj)

361 English doesn't borrow words from other languages.

it follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them unconscious, then riffles their pockets for spare vocabulary.

/usenet, long ago

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 01:33 AM (obZhs)

362 It's going to be a tough choice in November for President between... the Independant American Party candidate and "None of these candidates"

Posted by: The Voting Hat at February 24, 2016 01:33 AM (vBeA5)

363 "Is it the cost issue? The federal government probably spends that every 4 weeks."

On one of the day threads recently, a gasfugee said something to the effect that a border protective structure (wall, fence, moat, what have you) is estimated to cost between 50 and 100 billion dollars.

I responded by saying that, per the latest data out of Treasury, the national debt is currently going up at about fifty billion dollars per week. To put it in perspective.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 24, 2016 01:33 AM (noWW6)

364 If i'm going to learn a language so far from English it's gonna be Chinese or Japanese

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:30 AM (dciA+)


Nah, Hebrew. If this country goes to shit, the Horde's going to have to pretend to be one of the lost tribes in order to get in to one of the last decent countries on Earth, so we may as well have someone who can speak it.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 01:33 AM (J+mig)

365 362 It's going to be a tough choice in November for President between... the Independant American Party candidate and "None of these candidates


Like I said being from CA. My vote doesn't count so I could write in any one I want....

Posted by: donna at February 24, 2016 01:34 AM (/dSsq)

366 >>> English is very free form in its construction. We don't really have nay "verbs" or "nouns".

English is has one of the most rigid sentence structures of any language on earth. It's its rigid SVO structure that permits it to drop a lot of the cases and conjugations and markers of other languages.

http://grammar.about.com/od/rs/g/Svo-Subject-Verb-Object.htm

i honestly don't know what you mean, in terms of it being "free form." it has a relatively simple grammar set, which makes it relatively easy to learn *poorly*, and a lot of exceptions and special case rules, which makes it more difficult to learn *well.*

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:34 AM (dciA+)

367 >>>> publius) at February 24, 2016 01:31 AM (dvuhZ)
-----
More or less. Beck has parsed some of those words and walked some back.

He is so delusional. He considers himself some kind of prophet that hears the the voice of God directly. So does everyone that he surrounds himself with.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 01:35 AM (2x3L+)

368 I think maybe you mean it has a fairly light load of grammatical curlicues, which is true, but I don't know what you mean by "free form."

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:35 AM (dciA+)

369 He is so delusional. He considers himself some kind of prophet that hears the the voice of God directly. So does everyone that he surrounds himself with.


He's starting to scare Me....

Posted by: donna at February 24, 2016 01:35 AM (/dSsq)

370 Merrikans terrified of Jesus, afraid Cruz will force them to love God.

Posted by: Miley's Tongue dba Ylva of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy at February 24, 2016 01:35 AM (odjaN)

371 It's probably the hair. I suspect that it's a combover.
LOL, I wish it was that simple!
********************

This is how I evaluate the Donald. I could be wrong but my sense is that when he doubles down on a position, he believes in it. I mean he wouldn't even back down when the pope was being an ass.

It's when he waffles that I take him less seriously. While I believe he'll be strong on immigration and shift trade in our favor and changed his mind about abortion, I still think he's for single payer, despite saying he'll repeal obamacare (which to me just means replacing it with another socialized version).

But all things considered, I think he would govern more conservatively than many would give him credit for, and that he'll be pragmatic on other issues where he's been less forceful or believable on.

A lot of it may just be wishful thinking, but t me he represents the first legitimate outsider who won't do politics as usual, whether that's good or bad.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 01:36 AM (qHgBB)

372 I can't believe I used to be a big fan of Beck's. I've certainly evolved on that issue.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel


He used to be fun to listen to. Years ago.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 24, 2016 01:36 AM (FkBIv)

373 You and your other GOPe "Betters" really screwed the pooch when your actions, or lack thereof, allowed the rise of the Donald. This is all on y'all.

Right. It's all the fault of the RINOs for driving people into the arms of a RINO. Got it.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 01:36 AM (KRwzj)

374 There was a professor at MIT, a Russian woman iirc, who did some research that suggested that native speakers of languages with grammatical gender are in fact somewhat influenced by the gender of words --- not that they thought of masculine-gender tits as male, but that they tended to use different types of adjectives depending on the noun's gender.

I remember the example "key", which is masculine gender in German and feminine gender in French. When asked to describe keys, the Germans went for adjectives like sturdy, whereas the French picked words like beautiful. It's subtle and probable subconscious. Anyway, she wasn't popular with her colleagues, who insist Sapir-Whorf has zero validity.

Posted by: Trotsky w/a thesis in his headwound at February 24, 2016 01:36 AM (Y4Gwv)

375 Like I said being from CA. My vote doesn't count so I could write in any one I want....
Posted by: donna



I think that's a shitty way to look at things and it warps local politics when conservatives stop participating in the voting process.

What is so damn important that you can't take a few minutes once every 2-4 years and mark a ballot? Are you that lazy?

Posted by: Jim at February 24, 2016 01:36 AM (A3kYV)

376 None of the romance languages do this because their sentences are centered on the verb (which carries the bulk of the structure in its form) and its action. English is most concerned with TIME. When something happened, how long it went on for, when it ended, ... which is why we have so many tenses. These are not tenses of any single verb but tense structures that take any word to use a verb in that time frame.

The method of thinking to speak in English is very different from most other languages (that I'm aware of) and that leads to very different cultures (though a culture can bend English to its will over a long enough period).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 01:30 AM (zc3Db)


Most languages don't distinguish in meaning between the past tense of "have", while in English "has", "had," "has had," and "had had" are four different things.

Posted by: The Grammatical Hat at February 24, 2016 01:36 AM (vBeA5)

377 How is hispanic a real categorization?

Posted by: cm9000 at February 24, 2016 01:30 AM (2TUVm)
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The same way African-American and Norteamericano are?

Posted by: RioBravo at February 24, 2016 01:37 AM (NUqwG)

378 A lot of it may just be wishful thinking

There's no "may" about it.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 01:37 AM (KRwzj)

379 Anybody heard this crazy talk? Ted Cruz the Dominionist...

http://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=41438

Posted by: Rastus at February 24, 2016 01:38 AM (VjlMj)

380 >>>We have only words that take on their grammatical significance only as they are put into a phrase with the prepositions and time structure (helping "verbs" and the word used as verb) making determinations for which words are verbs and which are nouns and the like.

i really have no idea what you're talking about. We have a full set of verb tenses. We just get all the tenses primarily through modals and auxiliaries, not through direct transformations of the verb itself (congjugations), though almost every language in the world makes use of modals and auxilliaries as well; we just use them more.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:38 AM (dciA+)

381 Jim: "Had the GOP at least pretended to care about illegal immigration over the last 10 years, Trump would have never gotten off the ground."

Oh, it cares. It cares about it deeply. Not kidding. It wants it. Desperately.

The trick was on how to finagle it past America's legal citizens without getting fired from office.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 24, 2016 01:38 AM (1CroS)

382
I think that's a shitty way to look at things and it warps local politics when conservatives stop participating in the voting process.

What is so damn important that you can't take a few minutes once every 2-4 years and mark a ballot? Are you that lazy?


That's not it... Like I have said numerous times here I don't really like any of the Candidates.. I've never missed a vote and I will being going to vote... At this point I'm on the fence on who that might be...

Posted by: donna at February 24, 2016 01:38 AM (/dSsq)

383 HAH! I should have known The Political Hat would be summoned to this thread to speak of the "Thorn" letter...

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:27 AM (dciA+)


Spricaþ Ænglisc oþþe áfær

Posted by: Se Léodweardprætt Hæt at February 24, 2016 01:39 AM (vBeA5)

384 This mormon forum seems like a bunch of crazies, but it is kind of interesting. I wonder of Beck buys into this...?

Posted by: Rastus at February 24, 2016 01:39 AM (VjlMj)

385 >>>Ben Carson laughs inappropriately all the time like
Joe Biden against Paul Ryan during the VP debate except Carson has the
advantage of strong sleep inducing drugs that calm him down

Posted by: L, Elle at February 24, 2016 12:18 AM (2x3L+)<<<

Trump is the Repub Biden.
Both tend to ramble on about gibberish. Both are extremely loose with facts.
Both live in some alternate reality where their past positions/decisions
don't exist. Both hurl nasty insults insults and hide behind weird smirks or
sneering expressions. Both get absolute passes from their supporters about all
these things because, well, it's just Joe being Joe/Donald being Donald.

Now, one is, and the other, if he jumped in, would likely win their respective primary races for POTUS. We're so boned.

Posted by: Plugs vs Rugs 2016! -- It's the race we deserve at February 24, 2016 01:40 AM (H9MG5)

386 Spricaþ Ænglisc oþþe áfær

Posted by: Se Léodweardprætt Hæt at February 24, 2016 01:40 AM (vBeA5)

387 Turns out, Trump's also exposing charlatans. I can't believe I used to be a big fan of Beck's. I've certainly evolved on that issue.
******************

I used to like Beck when he was still on... CNBC I think? Now I hate everybody.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 01:40 AM (qHgBB)

388 Re "key". I a thread, the subject of the origin of words for various female anatomical parts came up. Of course it did.

I learned to my surprise that the word "clitoris" comes from Greek and means "key". There are also connotations of "tickle".

So, I'll never think of keys the same again.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at February 24, 2016 01:41 AM (dvuhZ)

389 Right. It's all the fault of the RINOs for driving people into the arms of a RINO. Got it.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 01:36 AM (KRwzj)

*****

Please explain his currently held position of kicking the ever loving shit out of your GOPe candidates then.

I'll sit here and wait, although I'm pretty sure the Stupid Ass Won't Buy What We're Selling Again, Lame ass Voters are somehow to blame in your view.

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 01:41 AM (YLidQ)

390 "claiming that the San Bernardino terrorists are representative of all Muslims is like claiming a deuterium atom is representative of all hydrogen."

Oh well, if you put it like that . . .

lol.

Posted by: Viking at February 24, 2016 01:41 AM (6y/kW)

391 Conservatives understand this issue is an existential battle.

Which is why conservatives aren't voting for Trump.

He does have the "Professional Wrestling Is Totally A Real Sport You Guys" demographic nailed though.

Some of them might identify as conservative, but only in the sense that Bruce Jenner identifies as a woman.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 01:41 AM (KRwzj)

392 How is hispanic a real categorization?
Posted by: cm9000 at February 24, 2016 01:30 AM

Good question. I had a good female friend my sr yr of hs. White as I am, and that's damn white, but her Dad was Spanish by way of Cuba.

She got into Wellesley because of her "Hispanic" origin. This was back in 1973, this has been going on for long time, just getting worse.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2016 01:41 AM (o/90i)

393 >>>
Most languages don't distinguish in meaning between the past tense of "have", while in English "has", "had," "has had," and "had had" are four different things.

i don't know about "most languages" but I know French and Spanish and Latin and Romance languages all have "has" (a), had (eut), has had (a eu), and had had (avais eu).

i'm pretty sure german has all of these as well.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:41 AM (dciA+)

394 "He jumped the shark with me a while back when he started handing out teddy bears to the kids crossing the border"

Yes. The muscular, scowling, heavily gang-tattooed, 25-year-old "kids".

Note that this farce then repeated itself in Europe, where there were obviously full grown adult men claiming to be preadolescent children, clutching toys awkwardly while towering over the local _bona fide_ kids, and having their claims taken seriously.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 24, 2016 01:41 AM (noWW6)

395 I think that's a shitty way to look at things and it warps local politics when conservatives stop participating in the voting process.

What is so damn important that you can't take a few minutes once every 2-4 years and mark a ballot? Are you that lazy?


That's not it... Like I have said numerous times here I don't really like any of the Candidates.. I've never missed a vote and I will being going to vote... At this point I'm on the fence on who that might be...
Posted by: donna




But not one person or proposition on the entire ballot is worth casting a vote either way? I have a hard time beliving that.

I wonder how many in your state think like you do and just give up.


Posted by: Jim at February 24, 2016 01:42 AM (A3kYV)

396 i honestly don't know what you mean, in terms of it being "free form." it has a relatively simple grammar set, which makes it relatively easy to learn *poorly*, and a lot of exceptions and special case rules, which makes it more difficult to learn *well.*

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:34 AM (dciA+)


Order is very important in English. Heck, punctuation is very important in written English. What other language relies so much on it to make sense?

Posted by: The Ordered Hat at February 24, 2016 01:42 AM (vBeA5)

397 We don't like the food.

Posted by: The dogs at February 24, 2016 01:42 AM (FkBIv)

398 if this keeps up, one eventually I'm going to actually have to hear Donald Trump's voice for the first time.

Thus far I have avoided doing so -- I'm probably the only non-deaf person in the country who have never heard Donald Trump.

Similarly, I've only ever heard Obama's voice a couple times (and one of those times was one-on-one in person), having intentionally tuned out all broadcast media since about Sept. 2008.

I dont plan to change my behavior. I feel that I'm much happier this way.

Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2016 01:42 AM (jBuUi)

399 Now I hate everybody.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 01:40 AM (qHgBB)


That's the safest position to have these days.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 01:42 AM (J+mig)

400 Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:34 AM (dciA+)[/i

I meant free-form in that we don't do conjugations of verbs in English - not really. The only verb left in the language with the full complement of conjugation is "to be" and that is the most special word in English because it is the basis of time and a structural part of the language. There are only very minor conjugations left for other words used as verbs (most have only three cases left) because it is the form of the sentence (or phrase) that determines what word is the verb, what its action is, how long it lasts, whether it's finished, ...

Yes foreigners learn English to speak at a certain level but you will find that most foreign speakers really don't understand many of the important nuances of everyday English. In many languages they really don't understand "would have", or "used to" or "will have been" or many other time constructs that every native English speaker understands easily and completely. I've heard foreign speakers use these tenses and respond to them, but when I questioned them more deeply about the meaning I found that they didn't really understand the true meaning of the tenses.

English is very intricate in the time apparati we set up for any run-of-the-mill sentence and that is done in the free form of not having the conjugation of verbs signify anything very important, other than a very mild grammatical marker.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 01:42 AM (zc3Db)

401 It's all the fault of the RINOs for driving people into the arms of a RINO
-------------------------------------------
Which Republican Presidents have not been "RINO"?

Harding?
Coolidge?
Reagan?

Posted by: RioBravo at February 24, 2016 01:43 AM (NUqwG)

402 Spricaþ Ænglisc oþþe áfær

Posted by: Se Léodweardprætt Hæt


Stop appropriating, yo!

Posted by: Roman script at February 24, 2016 01:43 AM (Qy3YA)

403
But not one person or proposition on the entire ballot is worth casting a vote either way? I have a hard time beliving that.

I wonder how many in your state think like you do and just give up.


Are You listening to Me? I said I was going to vote... The only question I have is for President....

Posted by: donna at February 24, 2016 01:43 AM (/dSsq)

404 Watching the whole consultant class shit their pants on live tv tonight was breathtaking. Van Jones had an on air near breakdown when he realized that his personal nightmare vision of the country is most likely only months away from happening.

There's more of us than more of you assholes!!!!

Posted by: averge joe at February 24, 2016 01:43 AM (cNtqS)

405 373 You and your other GOPe "Betters" really screwed the pooch when your actions, or lack thereof, allowed the rise of the Donald. This is all on y'all.

Right. It's all the fault of the RINOs for driving people into the arms of a RINO. Got it.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 01:36 AM (KRwzj)

I really think there's something to that, you know. For years the Republican establishment has been grooming us to accept RINOs. So Trump being RINOish (or whatever he is) isn't the barrier it once would have been.

Posted by: Miley's Tongue dba Ylva of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy at February 24, 2016 01:43 AM (odjaN)

406 He does have the "Professional Wrestling Is Totally A Real Sport You Guys" demographic nailed though.

Some of them might identify as conservative, but only in the sense that Bruce Jenner identifies as a woman.
Posted by: Hollowpoint


Yea, people that don't vote the way you want them to are clearly from the trailer park.

Posted by: Jim at February 24, 2016 01:43 AM (A3kYV)

407 Spricaþ Ænglisc oþþe áfær

speak english or (?) and i assume the last word is die, though I can't see any cognate. or does it mean leave, like "afar"?

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:43 AM (dciA+)

408 305
>>.Spanish has a couple of nifty quirks. There are two different
past tenses, depending on whether "it happened this way" [once] or "it
used-to happen this way" [continually],



we have that too.



English: It was raining when the thunder sounded.



French (same deal as Spanish but I know it better): Il pleuvait, quand le tonnere sonna.



The first verb is the imperfect, which corresponds, approximately,
to "was raining," while the second is the narrative past corresponding
to "sounded." (Though the french don't use the simple past for this like
we do, usually using the "have sounded," but here I used the simple
past.)



The thing is, actually, pretty much all the things we do in English they do in other languages.



with the exception, as you point out, of the subjunctive, which we
actually do use, but people aren't really aware of it, because for only a
couple of verbs does the subjunctive differ from the indicative.



I demand that you BE here on time.



But apart from "To be" and, I think, "will" becoming "would" (She
hoped that he would stop hitting her), we don't really have the
subjunctive, to the point where people learning a foreign language think
they're learning a foreign concept, when they're not; it exists in
english, we just kind of don't acknowledge it. We just know that "to be"
does some funky things when it folows the word "that."





Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:17 AM (dciA+)


In English, we offload the imperfect conjugation onto a "helping verb", so it was raining instead of "Il pleuvait" or "Llovia" [incidentally, Google Translate has a tough time with the imperfect and tries to force a word-for-word translation of the English "helping verb" form].

English is a very nuanced language -- but much of the grammar rules that have traditionally encapsulated such nuances have been bounced out to vocabulary and secondary constructions. Actual verb conjugation in English is rudimentary -- and there is absolutely no comparison to German's sixteen ways of saying "the".

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2016 01:43 AM (EzgxV)

409
Whoa...approaching 50%

Trump 46.4%
Rubio 23.7
Cruz 20.3
Posted by: Meremortal




Those "Cruz and Rubio need to strategically endorse each other" articles that we all over the place today just got mathed.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 24, 2016 01:44 AM (kdS6q)

410 Which is why conservatives aren't voting for Trump.
*******************

Except that they are.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 01:44 AM (qHgBB)

411 Burn It Down: "I used to like Beck when he was still on... CNBC I think? Now I hate everybody."

I'd be proud - Proud! - to have you as my neighbor.

As long as you stay off my lawn.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 24, 2016 01:44 AM (1CroS)

412 Please explain his currently held position of kicking the ever loving shit out of your GOPe candidates then.

The movie "Idiocracy" has all the answers you need to that question.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 01:44 AM (KRwzj)

413 >>> Most languages don't distinguish in meaning between the past tense of "have", while in English "has", "had," "has had," and "had had" are four different things

Japanese does not have this. You can express the idea but not with a direct conjugation. Like if you wanted to say "has had an orange" it would be "did the thing of having an orange"

Posted by: Rastus at February 24, 2016 01:45 AM (VjlMj)

414 412 Please explain his currently held position of kicking the ever loving shit out of your GOPe candidates then.

The movie "Idiocracy" has all the answers you need to that question.


Okay I laughed...

Posted by: donna at February 24, 2016 01:45 AM (/dSsq)

415 What I know about Cruz's fabled "ground game" in Colorado is that I get occasional emails to send money or else to sign some stupid online petition. The same pap I got from all the other stupid online ground-games from all the other failed candidacies here in Colorado.

What I *need* is: here in Longmont (say) is the meetup for your region; so show up, get organised, plan out how to canvas your area, then go do it.

I did get that from Orlando Sanchez in Houston when he almost beat Lee Brown for Mayor, in that heavily-D city. Cruz needs to do something like that here. And he needs to do it soon.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2016 01:45 AM (6FqZa)

416 Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 01:41 AM (KRwzj)



What conservatives? Boehner's, Ryan's, Beck's, Rubio's, Cruz's, Levin's?



It's a meaningless label. Too many different and inimical ideologies lay claim to it, and with as much damage as has been done to the brand by the Ryan and Boehner crowd, I think ditching the conservative label is long overdue.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 01:45 AM (J+mig)

417 He does have the "Professional Wrestling Is Totally A Real Sport You Guys"....
*********************

Wait, are you suggesting it isn't?

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 01:46 AM (qHgBB)

418 Most languages don't distinguish in meaning between the past tense of "have", while in English "has", "had," "has had," and "had had" are four different things.
Posted by: The Grammatical Hat at February 24, 2016 01:36 AM (vBeA5)

Swedish is similarly structured. Made it simple to learn compared to French.

Posted by: Miley's Tongue dba Ylva of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy at February 24, 2016 01:46 AM (odjaN)

419 "We have only words that take on their grammatical significance only as
they are put into a phrase with the prepositions and time structure
(helping 'verbs' and the word used as verb) making determinations for
which words are verbs and which are nouns and the like."

Oh yeah.

http://tinyurl.com/mn6zlfh

Posted by: torquewrench at February 24, 2016 01:46 AM (noWW6)

420 Which is why conservatives aren't voting for Trump.

He does have the "Professional Wrestling Is Totally A Real Sport You Guys" demographic nailed though.

Some of them might identify as conservative, but only in the sense that Bruce Jenner identifies as a woman.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 01:41 AM (KRwzj)

****

Wee, this is the kind of condescension that those rascally voters who do not agree with you just love to hear.

It really wins them over. You should keep this up.

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 01:46 AM (YLidQ)

421 When did beck go so loco? Hadn't listened to him in years.

Posted by: Skeezix at February 24, 2016 01:46 AM (WnCSK)

422 Sure, Ace, keep on humpin' that dickens!

(Goodnight fellow Indian food fanciers.)

Posted by: andycanuck at February 24, 2016 01:47 AM (WOyz5)

423 What I *need* is: here in Longmont (say) is the meetup for your region; so show up, get organised, plan out how to canvas your area, then go do it.
******************************

Is there any kind of GOP caucus scheduled for Colorado? Last I heard they canceled it.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 01:47 AM (qHgBB)

424 Like if you wanted to say "has had an orange" it would be "did the thing of having an orange"

Posted by: Rastus


mae, orengi motte 'te?

Posted by: Roman script at February 24, 2016 01:47 AM (Qy3YA)

425 >> When did beck go so loco?

when he started reading Cleon Skousen

Posted by: Rastus at February 24, 2016 01:47 AM (VjlMj)

426 PrimordialOrderedPair, if you don't close your tags all we hear is barrel barrel barrel barrelbarrel barrel barrelbarrelbarrel

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2016 01:48 AM (6FqZa)

427 "He does have the 'Professional Wrestling Is Totally A Real Sport You Guys'"

Linda couldn't quite get there as a senatorial candidate, but "Vice President Vince McMahon" does have a certain ring to it.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 24, 2016 01:48 AM (noWW6)

428 I dont plan to change my behavior. I feel that I'm much happier this way.

You're probably right.

In fact, the best option at this point is to fully embrace the LIV lifestyle. Bill Buckley died and was replaced by buffoonish retards like Sarah Palin and Donald Trump.

Whatever misfortune befalls our decadent and unserious society, we deserve.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 01:49 AM (KRwzj)

429 It really wins them over. You should keep this up.

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 01:46 AM (YLidQ)


It's just like how the GOPe doesn't get it. They see the results and think "Sneering at the unpeople isn't working? We obviously haven't done enough of it yet!"

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 01:49 AM (J+mig)

430 The movie "Idiocracy" has all the answers you need to that question.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 01:44 AM (KRwzj)

****

I thank you for the affirmation. You guys in the GOPe are obviously just crack Salesmen.

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 01:49 AM (YLidQ)

431 I'm getting tired of people saying Donald Trump is not conservative.


The GOP is not conservative.

They have controlled congress, the senate for the majority of the last 20 plus years and have delivered absolutely nothing.

Trump/Session 2016 - This is iit or else!!!

Posted by: Kreplach at February 24, 2016 01:49 AM (ILoaF)

432 This is why I travel with a QuikPoint and $100 bill. If I need more non-English communication than the QuikPoint can provide; I wave the $100 bill around and somebody else learns English - its like the miracle of tongues.

Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2016 01:49 AM (cXiMR)

433 Some of them might identify as conservative, but only in the sense that Bruce Jenner identifies as a woman.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 01:41 AM (KRwzj)
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Trump's "very conservative" bloc was second only to Cruz. That's a lot of Bruce Jenners.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 01:49 AM (qHgBB)

434 Still waiting to hear the Rubio advocates who have been insisting that Trump had a low to mid thirties ceiling explain the results in Nevada.

Posted by: cm9000 at February 24, 2016 01:49 AM (2TUVm)

435 Conservative has become "what lobbyists want"

My "fuck it" moment was the omnibus when Paul Ryan quadrupled work visas even after it was clear Trump had a commanding lead because of all the anger over this issue.

The Democrats didn't even want it, but it was the Republicans that insisted on it.

Apparently, that's "conservative" because Fortune 500 firms wanted it.

Posted by: Jim at February 24, 2016 01:49 AM (A3kYV)

436 I'll look cleon up...thx!

Posted by: Skeezix at February 24, 2016 01:50 AM (WnCSK)

437 422
When did beck go so loco? Hadn't listened to him in years.

Posted by: Skeezix at February 24, 2016 01:46 AM (WnCSK)


It's a shame that he's gone full-on mad like this. Back when he was a talk show host in Florida, he was awesome. Ever since he's gone national, he's gotten progressively weirder and weirder.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 01:50 AM (J+mig)

438 donna (and Jim), you realize that not only is your prezidential vote meaningless, but that all your others are, too?


OK, there *might* be a local initiative or something, or you might live in one of those exotic, nearly American counties like Yolo or Shasta or Kern. Or, possibly, there actually is a winnable local thing like sheriff or supervisor or something.


But on anything above that level, your vote is unlikely to matter. Obviously, state-wide offices incl. federal. But now, thanks to the Prop Eight model, initiatives as well (if they're sensible, not for some idiocy like stem-cell research institutes or bullet trains).


Absurd lawsuits, lawless judges, faithless state constitutional officers (no appeal), lack of standing at SCOTUS. Presto! Referendum process in all states - optionally, based on bigotry or agenda of lawless courts and faithless officials - effectively *repealed*.


Posted by: rhomboid at February 24, 2016 01:50 AM (QDnY+)

439 From Reuters rolling averages, Trump starting breaking through his mid-30s ceiling after SC, and is over 40%. Nevada agrees with that.

If he breaks through 50, well, there ain't no adding up the others to hope for at all.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at February 24, 2016 01:51 AM (dvuhZ)

440 As a Christian, I'm happy to tell the Pope to go fuck himself. Posted by: Blano at February 24, 2016 01:47 AM (3eoPa)
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LOL

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 01:51 AM (qHgBB)

441 Understanding the modern Glenn Beck requires understanding Mormon history and theology. Beck subscribes to fundamentalist Mormonism. If you listen to his program he's dropping mormon cues left and right that anybody who is familiar with the religion recognizes. Like he was recently talking about the constitution "hanging by a thread," this was the phrasing he used. That's known as the White Horse prophecy in Mormonism. One day the constitituion will hang by the thread and it will be the elders of israel (the mormon priesthood holders) who will be the saving of it. Beck is one of those men. He seems himself as potentially even being "that guy" referred to in the prophecy. On and on with this...

Posted by: Rastus at February 24, 2016 01:51 AM (VjlMj)

442 Why would you pull Sessions out of Congress -- lets yank MConnell or Graham out of their and let them go to funerals and pine wood derbys.

Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2016 01:51 AM (cXiMR)

443 @354..this. Exactly. I helped put Senator Rubio in office. Believing him a great, great man. He Ganged of 8 me and that was that in our romance.

It is hogwash that we cannot deport 12 million..those that we know of. It was done by General Eisenhower. We have huge military cargo planes that can take them to their home countries. For free to us taxpayers...giving jobs instantly to those that want them.

I believe it is due to trade and yada. But when I hear of huge companies moving to Mexico, disrupting AMERICAN workers (1700 families), well, it ticks me off. Due to it being cheaper in Mexico.

Senator Rubio may understand foreign policy well, just as Hilz may have the most frequent flyer miles but learned nothing about keeping our guys safe in Benghazi. That is swell, Marco...but you are either with us or against us and that is all that matters to me.

If I have another coughing fit at 3am I may join all of you night stalkers. Until then, carry on. Chin up. You are Americans, not stupid limp wrists from Morocco or somewhere, in borrowed cloths and little white track shoes. Waiting for German women to insult in train stations. I mean, we have much more than that to be grateful for. Wine and beer and not living in a refugee camp (yet. If I survive current whooping cough I still claim corner bunk near the strongest guy. I'll have my husband with me so he gets bottom bunk under me, I guess (dont't know how this works, but assume not separated by gender anymore?).

Good night to morons everywhere. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 24, 2016 01:51 AM (1uwuc)

444 This election shall henceforth be known as The Last Stand of the Establishment, Or: The Revenge of the Bitter Clingers.

Posted by: Jessica at February 24, 2016 01:52 AM (8olbK)

445 >>>es foreigners learn English to speak at a certain level but you will find that most foreign speakers really don't understand many of the important nuances of everyday English. In many languages they really don't understand "would have", or "used to" or "will have been" or many other time constructs that every native English speaker understands easily and completely. I've heard foreign speakers use these tenses and respond to them, but when I questioned them more deeply about the meaning I found that they didn't really understand the true meaning of the tenses.


they have these concepts in their own language.

English: I would have gone.

French: Je serais alle (accented)

that's conditional future (would) past perfect (have gone)

Dude, go look at any page. Pick a verb and a language. Like "Full conjugation aller" or "full conjugation estar"

Look at the long, long page of conjugations.

What do you think all of those are?

I really don't know what you are talking about. Where are you getting these ideas?

Some people may not "understand these ideas" for the same reason most english speakers don't understand these ideas -- they don't know grammar as something to be understood on a theoretical level, but something they "just know," without knowing why they know it.

most people here would know it's wrong to say "I expect that you ARE here on time," knowing it should be "I expect that you be here on time," without knowing WHY it's that way. (In fact, it's because we use the little-taught subjunctive, but they teach this in a single day in 8th grade english and then never reference it again.)



Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:52 AM (dciA+)

446 Skeezix: "When did beck go so loco? Hadn't listened to him in years."

Seems to me about the time he was planning his media empire and needed lots of financial liquidity. Then he went circus-tent evangelical.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 24, 2016 01:52 AM (1CroS)

447 437
Conservative has become "what lobbyists want"




Posted by: Jim at February 24, 2016 01:49 AM (A3kYV)


One of the many reasons why I'm adamant in my belief that we need to ditch the conservative label. It's been debased, misused, and abused to the point of having zero credibility. These days, there's more honor in calling yourself a goat fucker.

Any corporation with such a damaged brand would have rolled out a new logo and name a decade ago.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 01:53 AM (J+mig)

448 It's just like how the GOPe doesn't get it. They see the results and think "Sneering at the unpeople isn't working? We obviously haven't done enough of it yet!"
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 01:49 AM (J+mig)

******

I know, right? And yet these people honestly wonder why they get push back.

It is almost as if DalevCarnegie never created both a School and a Sales Philosophy that that could have availed themselves of.

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 01:53 AM (YLidQ)

449 Japanese does not have this. You can express the idea but not with a direct conjugation. Like if you wanted to say "has had an orange" it would be "did the thing of having an orange"

Posted by: Rastus at February 24, 2016 01:45 AM (VjlMj)


Hebrew has no progressive tense. But I really wanted to say "while I was walking" and not "while I walked" (which is all that Hebrew offered) so I made up my own Hebrew progressive and started using it. I would say "while I was in the process of a walk" for "while I was walking". Drove the Israelis totally batshit. They kept telling me that I couldn't speak that way and I told them that that was exactly what I wanted to say. They would say "But a walk is not a process" which I would answer with "It certainly is and that is what I want to say about it". But they couldn't get away from the idea that "a walk" is a static noun. Later, a friend told me that French didn't have a progressive, either, and that they actually used the same exact phrase to create one "in the process of".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 01:54 AM (zc3Db)

450 Biggest irony of the Nevada caucus?

Almost all of the mailers I got were pro-Bush or anti-Rubio from Bush's super-PAC...

Posted by: The Ironic Hat at February 24, 2016 01:54 AM (vBeA5)

451 324
>>.It goes back to the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis that I first learned
about via Heinlein. Modern academia likes to pretend that it's
"thoroughly discredited", while those outside academia tend to think,
"contains a good bit of common sense."



well yes that's the one -- and it is pretty daft.



like i said, it's also not true. If the American Indians don't think
about the future because they don't have a future tense, shall we say
the same about the hyper-futuristic Japanese, who also just use the
present tense with a future time marker?





Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:23 AM (dciA+)


I'd guess it's another one of those "strong-form/weak-form" thingie-widgets. In the strong from, it's inconceivable to comprehend something that doesn't have a word to anchor onto. If your word for "snow" is "snow", then you cannot conceive of "wet snow", and Eskimos have 120 words for snow [despite having a language that builds words through compounding -- so "snow" and "wetsnow" are separate words].

Where in the weak form, if you keep repeating that the National Socialists were "right wing", and Italian Fascists were "right wing", you develop a society that doesn't understand that "left wing = totalitarianism" because they don't have words to describe that belief.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2016 01:54 AM (EzgxV)

452 It really wins them over. You should keep this up.

There's no point in attempting reason with those who have purposely rejected the notion.

There is a point in shaming them though, if only that they serve an example to future generations what happens when a large segment of society goes Full Retard.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 01:54 AM (KRwzj)

453 328
Cthulhu-

Hi!

Posted by: Carol at February 24, 2016 01:25 AM (sj3Ax)


Howdy, howdy!!! How are the roses? We have (so far) had a super-mild winter -- our roses haven't even totally dropped leaves.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2016 01:55 AM (EzgxV)

454 >>>330 Cruz is taking my advice to talk about the tangible benefits of electing him -- "Wages will go up, graduates will have 4 or 5 job offers."

I'm so proud.

by the way, I wrote his campaign slogan "Courageous Conservatism."

I was asked to write his endorsement of Mike Flynn, and I came up with that phrase, which Cruz has apparently now adopted like the dickens.

and remember what michelle malkin called you on the podcast

Posted by: concrete girl at February 24, 2016 01:56 AM (0KgAM)

455 I put The Circus (Showtime) on demand & Rick Perry has been actively campaigning for Ted.

Posted by: Carol at February 24, 2016 01:56 AM (sj3Ax)

456 i honestly don't know what you mean, in terms of it being "free form." it has a relatively simple grammar set, which makes it relatively easy to learn *poorly*, and a lot of exceptions and special case rules, which makes it more difficult to learn *well.*
Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:34 AM

Since you are prowling here this time of night, did you catch the references to Dana Perino's reference to you on The Five today?

Not only did she reference AOS, but she just tossed it of as if everyone knew the website. Greg and Eric have made allusions before, as I'm sure you know.

Congrats.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2016 01:56 AM (o/90i)

457 @439...Beck, who I used to like, went full-blown loco after a failed hemmorhoid surgery. I am unsure but believe they fixed butt into orifice with some type of suture he was allergic to along with anesthesia. Now he speaks out of the wrong orifice. I think the anesthesia worked on his AA reformed brain cells and sparked them into going waa waa or beep-beep on an unending cycle.

But what the hell do I know at almost midnight with whooping cough?

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 24, 2016 01:56 AM (1uwuc)

458 There is a point in shaming them though, if only that they serve an example to future generations what happens when a large segment of society goes Full Retard.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 01:54 AM (KRwzj)

*****

Well, the GOPe has certainly shown them the way to Full Retard, so I guess I can't disagree with you there.

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 01:57 AM (YLidQ)

459 i bet if we polled people here, who are well educated and fluent in english, they would have trouble explaining precisely why one says "i would rather have it that way" and how that is different from "I will have it that way."

Unless you have specifically studied this, you probably just know when each is used, and would take a little while to come up with the right vocabulary to explain it.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:57 AM (dciA+)

460 It's just like how the GOPe doesn't get it. They see the results and think "Sneering at the unpeople isn't working? We obviously haven't done enough of it yet!"
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I remember reading Gowdy's words where he basically said our temper tantrum has gone on long enough, we made our point and now it's time to rally around Rubio.

You know, so we can continue to watch our betters continue to get rolled around in DC so they don't get disinvited from their precious cocktail parties.

Fuck that shit.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 01:57 AM (qHgBB)

461 >>> Drove the Israelis totally batshit.

In Japanese it's very common to form a whole sentence, some complex action, then package it up as a "thing" and then perform an additional action on that thing. Japanese is really kind of robotic the way it works, almost like speaking a programming language.

Posted by: Rastus at February 24, 2016 01:58 AM (VjlMj)

462 There's no point in attempting reason with those who have purposely rejected the notion.

There is a point in shaming them though, if only that they serve an example to future generations what happens when a large segment of society goes Full Retard.
Posted by: Hollowpoint



If "your path" had a history of success, you might have a leg to stand on.

Most of Trump's support is in spite of Trump's more crass style and because he's the only one that everybody knows is actually serious about tackling immigration.

Posted by: Jim at February 24, 2016 01:58 AM (A3kYV)

463 "What I know about Cruz's fabled 'ground game' in Colorado is that I get
occasional emails to send money or else to sign some stupid online
petition. The same pap I got from all the other stupid online
ground-games from all the other failed candidacies here in Colorado."

Part of the genius of the classic ye-olde-tyme "ward-heeler" system was that there was persistent local state information maintained in between elections. In the heads of humans who actually lived in those wards, not in remote digital databases.

If you read memoirs from people who were in the down and dirty political trenches back then, you realize that things like "microtargeting" of political messages existed a long time before the modern consultantocracy reinvented and technologized the concept.

Except back then, the microtargeting didn't rely on data-mining Joe and Jane Electorate's consumer preferences and magazine subscriptions. It was built round the local ward boss who knew them socially, or knew someone who knew them, and could send canvassers with appropriately slanted campaign materials.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 24, 2016 01:58 AM (noWW6)

464 that kind of analysis is dumb. See John McWhorter on this enduring myth of people who don't know any better that languages shape culture or that languages have certain concepts that other languages don't have.

this is pop-linguistics. People love saying dumb things like "The American indians lived in the present, becuase they have no future tense for verbs." That's fucking dumb. Like the Japanese, they have no future tense, so they mark the future by using the present tense with a future marker -- "later on," "tomorrow," "next year."

There's nothing in spanish that makes it particularly passive. just as you can frame any statement in english in the passive, so too can you do it in spanish. doesn't make it some kind of telling clue about the culture.
Posted by: ace


But there have been numerous studies showing that there is a direct correlation between the complexity of a language and the "success" of the culture that speaks the language ("success" meaning economic, technological, peace+harmony, etc.).

All sorts of tribes, societies and cultures were assessed. Super-complicated languages like Greek, German and Japanese (and English obviously) were associated with nations that made major civilizational advancements. At the opposite end of the spectrum were tribes which had (for a example) a number system which was, in its entirety, "One, Two, Three, Many," and nothing beyond that; which had no tenses or subjunctive, etc. All such tribes lived what we would called "subsistence" or "hunter-gatherer" existences.

The major determining factor seemed to be having a language with sentences that can have subordinate clauses, or with multipart conjunctions, such as this very sentence, which seem to be inexorably interlinked with "advanced thinking," i.e. it takes an advanced language to facilitate advanced thought.

The theory doesn't hold true universally with every culture, but it turned out to be a very good predictor. Even within meta-societies with several languages, those with the most complex languages were dominant. Best example here was in North America: not all Native American languages are equally complex, and those tribes with the most complex languages were the most dominant, populous, with the most sophisticated political structures, etc., while the Native American tribes with comparatively simplistic languages had simplistic cultures and were dominated by the complex tribes. Which only proved that it isn't a "race" thing, but a "language" thing.

Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2016 01:58 AM (jBuUi)

465 I really think there's something to that, you know. For years the Republican establishment has been grooming us to accept RINOs. So Trump being RINOish (or whatever he is) isn't the barrier it once would have been.

Posted by: Miley's Tongue dba Ylva of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy at February 24, 2016 01:43 AM (odjaN)

I've been wondering about this. We're always told that a conservative can't win so we need to run a moderate. Those same people are screaming, "Trump's not a conservative!" Funny that.

Fwiw, Van Jones is as freaked out as Carl Rove.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 24, 2016 01:58 AM (GzDYP)

466 There is a point in shaming them though, if only
that they serve an example to future generations what happens when a
large segment of society goes Full Retard.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 01:54 AM (KRwzj)


You think you're so much smarter than everyone else, don't you? That history's going to look back and go "gee, this guy really got it." You're just dust in the wind like the rest of us.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 01:59 AM (J+mig)

467 There is a point in shaming them though, if only
that they serve an example to future generations what happens when a
large segment of society goes Full Retard.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 01:54 AM (KRwzj)


So painful when everyone is so intellectually inferior to you, right?

Posted by: cm9000 at February 24, 2016 01:59 AM (2TUVm)

468 all better than measure words.

Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2016 02:00 AM (cXiMR)

469 >>>If your word for "snow" is "snow", then you cannot conceive of "wet snow", and Eskimos have 120 words for snow [despite having a language that builds words through compounding -- so "snow" and "wetsnow" are separate words].


i can't prove this but i've heard that even that example is complete bunkum, and eskimos have just as many words for snow as we do -- just as we say "wet snow" (and we do say that) or "grainy snow" (and yeah i've said that) or "snow that sticks" or "flyaway snow" or "icy snow" well, that's what eskimos say too.

every kid in the world knows what "good-packing snow" is. Eskimos have the same concept.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:00 AM (dciA+)

470 One, I would like the credit for being the first to re-christen this thing A Smart Linguistics Blog.


Two, cthulhu, actually, if we're talking Brazilian Portuguese, it's not mutually intelligible with Spanish-speakers. Spent a fair amount of time in southern Brazil where the Argentines present could understand hardly anything. Yet, the Brazilians could follow their Spanish (even porteno, the B.A. accent).


At that time, Brazilian novelas were the top world-wide - in Argentina they were broadcast with subtitles or voice-overs. In Brazil at that time (mid-80s), Mexican novelas (the second best) were broadcast without subtitles or voice-overs, in the Spanish original. Far as I could tell, a one-way membrane.


Posted by: rhomboid at February 24, 2016 02:00 AM (QDnY+)

471 Fuck that shit.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 01:57 AM (qHgBB)


Amen. I will no longer be a party to my own disenfranchisement. I will not vote for an entrenched political aristocracy that does not represent me. I will vote for anything else, even Trump, before I vote for more of the same.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 02:01 AM (J+mig)

472 Most of Trump's support is in spite of Trump's more crass style and because he's the only one that everybody knows is actually serious about tackling immigration.

Claiming that Mexico will pay for the border wall isn't serious. It's an open mockery of his own supporters.

Hell, he's practically said as much, but his supporters are too dumb to understand that he's insulting them.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 02:01 AM (KRwzj)

473 Catering to the interests of the middle class is obviously beneath contempt. Repudiating the policies of The Wall Street Journal Editorial Board is gauche.

Posted by: Jessica at February 24, 2016 02:01 AM (8olbK)

474 "Wine and beer and not living in a refugee camp (yet. If I survive
current whooping cough I still claim corner bunk near the strongest guy.
I'll have my husband with me so he gets bottom bunk under me, I guess
(dont't know how this works, but assume not separated by gender
anymore?)."

Silly rabbit! Gender is merely a social construct. So naturally we won't have anything like that. Of course, cis males who don't know their places will still be... reinstructed.

Posted by: Happy Fun Camp Activities Director at February 24, 2016 02:03 AM (noWW6)

475 Where are you getting these ideas?

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 01:52 AM (dciA+)


They're mine. Things that I noticed, especially while learning other languages.

There is a very significant difference between having the time being part of the action in a conjugated verb and having the time described in a framework that surrounds the word used as a verb. You don't seem to think so. That's fine.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 02:03 AM (zc3Db)

476 Language stuff:

This will sound crazy, but I took Japanese and Italian in High School (two different schools/states)

I found them to be strangely similar, not in grammar or syntax, but in vocal inflection. If you've ever seen an old Japanese thriller such as a samurai flick in the original language, you might know what I am getting at.

Posted by: Max Power at February 24, 2016 02:03 AM (QCc6B)

477 Cruz who?

Posted by: ByebyeCruz at February 24, 2016 02:04 AM (VPfwu)

478 >>> Super-complicated languages like Greek, German and Japanese (and English obviously) were associated with nations that made major civilizational advancements.

english is a pretty grammar-light language, which gets complicated only in certain places. Our light grammar system causes some need for patch or spot rules.

when you look at german, with three different genders, four cases for nouns (!!!-- cases for nouns! how ancient! how baroque!), a full system of verb conjugations, TWO, count 'em TWO, subjunctive tenses, word order that varies according to main clause vs dependent clause... well I don't think English is super-complicated at all.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:04 AM (dciA+)

479 Japanese is really kind of robotic the way it works, almost like speaking a programming language.

Posted by: Rastus


How do robots address honorifics exactly?

Posted by: Roman script at February 24, 2016 02:04 AM (Qy3YA)

480 Hell, he's practically said as much, but his supporters are too dumb to understand that he's insulting them.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 02:01 AM (KRwzj)

*****

I bow to your superior knowledge about how a Party should treat its supporters.

Presidents McCain and Romney concur. Insulting the Roobs is a winning strategery.

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 02:04 AM (YLidQ)

481 I also think Cruz is gone.

Posted by: Viking at February 24, 2016 02:05 AM (6y/kW)

482
Jay Cost

Its is a race for delegates. It doesnt matter how many states Trump has "won." DELEGATES matter.



On March 15th, the two become synonymous. And before that, the proportional contest are often modified proportional, where winning with daylight between you and the next guy stair-steps your delegates.

Guess one can hang on to the hope that a Trump who has won say 43 states and is a hundred delegates short is:

1. mathematically possible

2. something that can be stopped by a Cuban with 400 delegates and a bent rules committee.

Good luck.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 24, 2016 02:05 AM (kdS6q)

483 I get the feeling that some of us are insulting others of us but the others of us are too dumb to understand we're being insulted.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 24, 2016 02:06 AM (1CroS)

484 You think you're so much smarter than everyone else, don't you? That history's going to look back and go "gee, this guy really got it." You're just dust in the wind like the rest of us.

Not at all; quite the opposite.

I fully embrace the fact that I am not particularly special or smart. I also understand that half the population is of below average intelligence, and that is the demographic Trump is intentionally courting.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 02:06 AM (KRwzj)

485 As a Christian, I'm happy to tell the Pope to go fuck agreeing here. Posted by: Blano at February 24, 2016 01:47 AM (3eoPa)
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LOL
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 24, 2016 01:51 AM

LMAO. No disrespect to anyone...but as a Baptist I'm agreeing here.

Francis, STFU.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2016 02:07 AM (o/90i)

486 >>>I found them to be strangely similar, not in grammar or syntax, but in vocal inflection. If you've ever seen an old Japanese thriller such as a samurai flick in the original language, you might know what I am getting at.

i can hear that. i'm finding that spanish sounds pretty italian. I read that italian is closer to french in vocabulary, but closer to spanish in proununciation.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:07 AM (dciA+)

487 So... haven't been out in months but i went out tonight with a friend. He's back in town from LA.
Sitting at the small town bar, talking to said friend and the bar owner. The election comes up. They're both talking about rationalizing a Trump presidency being ok. Bar owner says he finds Cruz "scary."
I held my tongue and asked "why?"
No good reasons.
I think it's that Cruz isn't hyping up his good points? When I said I'd like to have someone who'd defend the constitution he agreed. He also agreed that if Cruz had the showmanship of Trump he'd probably be much more popular.
I share this with the morons, for what it's worth.

Now... to read the ont links i opened and beddies!

Posted by: Sugar Plum Fairy #176-671 at February 24, 2016 02:07 AM (hnCis)

488 Oh, and Three.


Ace, if you're serious about Japanese or Chinese, consider the tone thing.


Had a Vietnamese gf once, spent a fair amount of time in V'Nam (met her in the US). Finally started doing V'mese lessons, even though I was sort of languaged-out (German, Russian, Portuguese, lots of formal edumucation therein and for the latter two lots of use "in the field").


Yes of course the instructor was mesmerizing (as were a significant number of the females in general over there), but ...... I simply couldn't muster the will to take on the tone thing. It's kind of ridiculous.


So, Japanese. No tonality - very flat, as you probably know. In fact, not a single sound we English speakers have any trouble reproducing.


Four. So, along with the double dose of tika masala, did you inhale some caphe den (V'mese dark coffee)? 2AM is respectably late for somebody who doesn't play adult recreational hockey.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 24, 2016 02:08 AM (QDnY+)

489 Japanese is a really, really beautiful sounding language, when heard in the right time and place.

Posted by: Max Power at February 24, 2016 02:08 AM (QCc6B)

490 Tentative delegate allocation:

Trump 14
Rubio 7
Cruz 6
Carson 2
Kasich 1

Posted by: The Electoral Hat at February 24, 2016 02:08 AM (vBeA5)

491 375
What is so damn important that you can't take a few minutes once every 2-4 years and mark a ballot? Are you that lazy?

Posted by: Jim at February 24, 2016 01:36 AM (A3kYV)


You might be new here. But we typically don't attack other commenters here, except trolls.

Posted by: rebel flounder at February 24, 2016 02:08 AM (3dOE/)

492 440
donna (and Jim), you realize that not only is your prezidential vote meaningless, but that all your others are, too?





OK, there *might* be a local initiative or something, or you might
live in one of those exotic, nearly American counties like Yolo or
Shasta or Kern. Or, possibly, there actually is a winnable local thing
like sheriff or supervisor or something.





But on anything above that level, your vote is unlikely to matter.
Obviously, state-wide offices incl. federal. But now, thanks to the
Prop Eight model, initiatives as well (if they're sensible, not for some
idiocy like stem-cell research institutes or bullet trains).





Absurd lawsuits, lawless judges, faithless state constitutional
officers (no appeal), lack of standing at SCOTUS. Presto! Referendum
process in all states - optionally, based on bigotry or agenda of
lawless courts and faithless officials - effectively *repealed*.







Posted by: rhomboid at February 24, 2016 01:50 AM (QDnY+)

I want to leave and take the fiancee with me. I'm doing great on the first, not so much on the second. So we stay.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2016 02:09 AM (EzgxV)

493 When Fenelon suggested a "happy" thread, I was going to request one on language, because that's what makes a weirdo like me happy.

Maybe Ace would consider a separate thread on language? I recall at least one from the past. And it seems there are a fair number of people here also interested in the topic.

Posted by: Trotsky w/a thesis in his headwound at February 24, 2016 02:09 AM (Y4Gwv)

494 "There's no point in attempting reason with those who have purposely rejected the notion."

Out here I'm most commonly dealing with those for whom the notion never even entered their heads in the first place.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 24, 2016 02:09 AM (noWW6)

495 On March 15th, the two become synonymous. And before that, the proportional contest are often modified proportional, where winning with daylight between you and the next guy stair-steps your delegates.

Guess one can hang on to the hope that a Trump who has won say 43 states and is a hundred delegates short is:

1. mathematically possible

2. something that can be stopped by a Cuban with 400 delegates and a bent rules committee.

Good luck.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 24, 2016 02:05 AM (kdS6q)

*****

Yep. They had best be careful and realize that their very survival depends on not fucking this one up at the Convention.

I am not counting on them being smart enough realize this, because Betters and Shut Up Prole attitudes, see above.

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 02:09 AM (YLidQ)

496 ace and german has sentancewordsthatwoulddrivepixynuts

Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2016 02:09 AM (cXiMR)

497 >>>
Had a Vietnamese gf once, spent a fair amount of time in V'Nam (met her in the US). Finally started doing V'mese lessons, even though I was sort of languaged-out (German, Russian, Portuguese, lots of formal edumucation therein and for the latter two lots of use "in the field").

a friend and I agreed the proper way to learn a language is to have it fucked into you.

yes i've read about japanese's limited phonemes, and how that's good for us learning japanese, and bad for the poor japanese learning english, who have to learn a bunch of sounds they have never made before.

a big sticking point is japan's incredibly complex writing system.

eh, one day.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:10 AM (dciA+)

498 The rules of the RNC (changed in 2012 to handle a Ron Paul threat to President Romney. Or something) make states won indeed matter. To get the nomination you've got to have won 5 states. So, according to the rules, majority of delegates but less than 5 states won (if that's possible) means still ineligible for the nomination.

They were going through scenario where it was still a multi-man race up until the end, and no one had won 5 states. Contested convention and no one eligible, meaning they'd have to change the rules.






Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at February 24, 2016 02:10 AM (dvuhZ)

499 Japanese is a really, really beautiful sounding language, when heard in the right time and place.

Posted by: Max Power


Mostly during anytime a lady has your ear under a cherry tree in April/March pouring a pint of Ebisu into your cup.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 02:10 AM (Qy3YA)

500 english is a pretty grammar-light language, which gets complicated only in certain places. Our light grammar system causes some need for patch or spot rules.

when you look at german, with three different genders, four cases for nouns (!!!-- cases for nouns! how ancient! how baroque!), a full system of verb conjugations, TWO, count 'em TWO, subjunctive tenses, word order that varies according to main clause vs dependent clause... well I don't think English is super-complicated at all.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:04 AM (dciA+)


Yes and no. The grammatical casses, declantations, &c. are simple, but the use of auxiliarries, placement, &c. make English (as you stated), easy to learn a little, but difficult to master. In contrast, languages with rely on grammatical cases, &c. are harder to get a grasp one, but more easy to master.

Posted by: The Linguistic Hat at February 24, 2016 02:11 AM (vBeA5)

501 Watch Yojimbo in the original language with subtitles on and call it fucking robotic. I double dog fucking dare you.

Posted by: Max Power at February 24, 2016 02:11 AM (QCc6B)

502 >>>
Yes and no. The grammatical casses, declantations, &c. are simple, but the use of auxiliarries, placement, &c. make English (as you stated), easy to learn a little, but difficult to master. In contrast, languages with rely on grammatical cases, &c. are harder to get a grasp one, but more easy to master.

i'll defer to you but mcwhorter argues that it's wrong to say that "German starts hard, but gets easy." He says it starts hard, and stays hard.

He says english starts easy, and gets slightly harder, but still pretty easy.

He says Russian starts horrible, and gets worse.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:12 AM (dciA+)

503 My Presidential prediction: Julian Castro will be the next President.

Hillary wins. After the election but before electoral votes are cast, she is indicted. Electoral college chooses her Veep, Castro, for President. For "continuity", they'll vote for Biden as Veep.

Castro appoints enough SCOTUS judges to turn America into a People's Republic...

Posted by: The Predicting Hat at February 24, 2016 02:14 AM (vBeA5)

504 LDC, kudos. Your comments are invariably funny, and/or substantive, or both. Plus you do the thankless drudgery of monitoring the bleatings of the multitude of sub-mediocre sorts who mostly dominate our sad degraded polity.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 24, 2016 02:14 AM (QDnY+)

505 Good Night. I've had enough for today.
One of my best work friends has had Stage IV brain cancer, diagnosed a month after she retired, tumor the size of a golf ball.
She had surgery November 12 & was going to have both chemo & radiation (one at a time sucked) & decided not to.
She wanted more quality time & that time is up.

Stop thinking & posting about politics to think of one of the nicest women I've known & I had to set up FB to read & she hasn't any time left-1-2 weeks.

Pray for Gayle to die peacefully soon. Her husband Paul updated her FB to write his heart is broken, she's fallen twice in past week & injured herself more. Paul wrote she only wants to die quickly & peacefully.

Please pray for Gayle & her husband Paul.

Thank you.

Posted by: Carol at February 24, 2016 02:14 AM (sj3Ax)

506 So Rubes and Cruz need to carry 5 states to be eligible for the nomination, no matter how many delegates they get. Cruz has won 1 state, and Rubio zero.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at February 24, 2016 02:14 AM (dvuhZ)

507 Tim in GA: "I am not counting on them being smart enough realize this, because Betters and Shut Up Prole attitudes, see above."

Agreed. I expect their financiers are pretty much telling them to void the "Republican Pledge" if Trump has the most delegates.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 24, 2016 02:14 AM (1CroS)

508 I mean, when I compare what I have to learn in a foreign language, with what a foreigner has to learn for english...

Look at the English "to run" in all its conjugations:

http://www.verbix.com/webverbix/English/run.html

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:14 AM (dciA+)

509 And here's where I contradict myself in the span of minutes like JeffBuh:

The difference between men and women's speech in Jpns is vast. You can't get away with just copying your lady friend in Japanese. It will lead to monumental gaffs that will be repeated for years in the hallways of that office.


Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 02:14 AM (Qy3YA)

510 Most of Trump's constituency do not know who or what Trump is. They are sick and tired of being screwed over day and night and think he is going to bust them free.

Posted by: Ralph at February 24, 2016 02:15 AM (TSEbs)

511 the hard thing in english is all the "do-ing" and "was-ing" business.

and that is a bitch, admittedly.

but compared to other languages?

Look:

http://www.verbix.com/webverbix/English/run.html

my goodness, compare that to any page of foreign language conjugations.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:16 AM (dciA+)

512 330 I was asked to write his endorsement of Mike Flynn, and I came up with
that phrase, which Cruz has apparently now adopted like the dickens.

So, you work for Cruz, and you want to be seen as unbiased?

Posted by: Okay then at February 24, 2016 02:17 AM (biADA)

513
To get the nomination you've got to have won 5 states.
Posted by: publius



That was modified for this primary. It's 8 states, won by majority -- not plurality, 50%+1 of the vote.

Rule 40.

http://tinyurl.com/jdskz5e

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 24, 2016 02:17 AM (kdS6q)

514 I don't think Hillary can win.

Posted by: Viking at February 24, 2016 02:17 AM (6y/kW)

515 I'm not sure which is dumber- people believing that Donald Trump is a conservative who will not only build a border wall but get Mexico to fund it, or people who STILL don't understand that Ben Carson is on a donor-funded book tour masquerading as a campaign.

At least Carson is motivated by rational (if shameless) financial self interest. So there's that.

I'd like to say that I'm too principled to run a fake campaign even if it meant raking in millions of dollars in personal profit. I'm not sure I can.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 02:18 AM (KRwzj)

516 514
Most of Trump's constituency do not know who or what Trump is. They are
sick and tired of being screwed over day and night and think he is going
to bust them free.


Posted by: Ralph at February 24, 2016 02:15 AM (TSEbs)


I don't think a lot of people actually care what Trump is. They just see the Establishment and Democrats both losing their shit about the prospect of him getting elected, and go "I hate those assholes. They deserve him."

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 02:18 AM (J+mig)

517 Agreed. I expect their financiers are pretty much telling them to void the "Republican Pledge" if Trump has the most delegates.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 24, 2016 02:14 AM (1CroS)

*****

I hear ya, but to GOPe types (see above) as well as most Pols (to be fair), pledges mean exactly Jack and Shit if they get the opportunity to better themselves.

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 02:19 AM (YLidQ)

518 I'd like to say that I'm too principled to run a fake campaign even
if it meant raking in millions of dollars in personal profit. I'm not
sure I can.

Posted by: Hollowpoint


You truly are a great American.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 02:19 AM (Qy3YA)

519 >>>So, you work for Cruz, and you want to be seen as unbiased?

no. I helped my friend Mike Flynn.

Cruz was endorsing Flynn.

You might not know this, but when you get someone to endorse you, or blurb your book, or even recommend you, sometimes they just say, "Look, you tell me what you want me to say."

So they asked Flynn that, and Flynn asked me to write him the endorsement. they used most of it.

apparently they liked the "courageous conservative" part, which was written for Flynn, but to capture Cruz's interest.



Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:19 AM (dciA+)

520 It's over. Cruz' speech tonight was the definition of pathos, and full of impossible contradictions. Donald Trump is a Washington insider, whereas sitting Senator Cruz is not? That's what he'd have you believe. Among other stretches. Rubio turned up absent, No-Showbio strikes again.

New Hampshire Trump and South Carolina Trump were earthquakes, Nevada was Event Horizon Trump. Cruz, the last stand of the Reagan Coalition (as good and great as it was!), has fallen short. Rubio, the last stand of the GOPe coalition (as foul as it was!), has fallen short.

We are in the liftoff stages of the Trump Coalition. For better or worse. He will smoke Hillary, Sanders or Biden.

It is not going to be pretty, and it most likely will be very perilous. Through no fault of Trump, that's just the hand he will be dealt financially and otherwise. He's going to be tested, we will be tested.

But that basket is where our eggs are at. As of today. We got President Donald J. Trump. Who woulda thunk it? I would have said you are a crazy person with that, only 7 months ago.

Posted by: Cowboy at February 24, 2016 02:19 AM (0VO5Q)

521 "He says Russian starts horrible, and gets worse."

This is pretty much what a guy doing the Korean course at DLI in Monterey said.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 24, 2016 02:21 AM (noWW6)

522 and to be honest I held that against Cruz, the endorsement, because that was promised a month before, but was never issued until the very day before the election.

for a long time I considered Cruz a chickenshit for being so hesitant to endorse an insurgent.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:21 AM (dciA+)

523 Carol, I am so sad for your friend, her family and you. She is lucky for the loving support she has from you all. I am sorry for you to be losing such a good friend.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 24, 2016 02:21 AM (GzDYP)

524
472
>>>If your word for "snow" is "snow", then you cannot conceive
of "wet snow", and Eskimos have 120 words for snow [despite having a
language that builds words through compounding -- so "snow" and
"wetsnow" are separate words].





i can't prove this but i've heard that even that example is complete
bunkum, and eskimos have just as many words for snow as we do -- just
as we say "wet snow" (and we do say that) or "grainy snow" (and yeah
i've said that) or "snow that sticks" or "flyaway snow" or "icy snow"
well, that's what eskimos say too.



every kid in the world knows what "good-packing snow" is. Eskimos have the same concept.





Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:00 AM (dciA+)


That was actually the point I was driving at -- a language that can conceive of "wet snow", "grainy snow", "flyaway snow", and "icy snow" is not limited to 1/4 the conception of "snow" as a language that has words like "wetsnow", "grainysnow", "flyawaysnow", and "icysnow" -- to think otherwise is just retarded. And the "strong form" of Sapir-Whorf would suggest just that, as they suggest that vocabulary = perception.

But 1984 and real-life suggest that there is some truth to a limitation in vocabulary leading to a limitation in viewpoints -- a "weak form" of Sapir-Whorf.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2016 02:22 AM (EzgxV)

525 I think the safest (and sanest, for me) path to November is to keep my thoughts on The Won, skipping up the stairs to Marine One as he exits DC for the final time; limp wrists a-flapping and pigeon toes a twinkling, with his gummy grin flashing "all is well" to valjar at the top of landing . He,of course, will have no neck tie for the occasion (too Western. Not of his friend's dress in the ME).

In reality the steps will have some type of special lubricant wax, shining brightly, but like little metal death slopes of ice. He will be fighting for traction for his wee feets with every step, which will throw off his gum chewing skill (as we all know he cannot walk and chew gum at same time). This will cause limp wrists to windmill for balance, looking like a beauty queen's twirling talent but without the baton. The gum will go a-flying into Marine One's first rotor, then come off onto Mooch's wighat like little gummy green confetii, stuck there forevermore and a fright as some caught on the powdery vast crevice of her armpit during her famous wave.

Her voo doo granny, trying to ease the horrific spectacle before her, simply shoves the waving and gummy couple aside and makes her last venture into the taxpayer open bar. Slumping behind her are the surly daughters, who do not turn towards cameras, DC, the Marines, or any trappings. They listen to Beyonce and wear their $500 shorts to their special seats, shrugging off a family shot of the happy family, glaring at reporters and parents alike. This leaves Barry, still slipping and sliding his way to top of Marine One, where he hits noggin as he once did, turns, waves with gummy Mooch at his side glaring at him, and that will be that. The Marines and pilot grin slightly and plan a trip full of sudden turbulent skies and mayhem.

And I will be drinking from a champagne glass and dancing around house screaming in happiness or until husband makes me stop. I cannot wait. My life will have this happy moment in time. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 24, 2016 02:22 AM (1uwuc)

526 Prayers sent Carol

Posted by: ginaswo at February 24, 2016 02:22 AM (qxNrP)

527 >>>
I don't think a lot of people actually care what Trump is. They just
see the Establishment and Democrats both losing their shit about the
prospect of him getting elected, and go "I hate those assholes. They
deserve him."
.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 02:18 AM (J+mig)
<<<

Yes, that too.



Posted by: Ralph at February 24, 2016 02:22 AM (TSEbs)

528 I sure hope it works out that way, Cowboy.

Posted by: Jaxon Jensen at February 24, 2016 02:22 AM (WsA76)

529 ace, you saucy plain-spoken boy. I believe "on the pillow" is the genteel way to describe studying a language partly/mostly by shtupping the bejeesus out of some hot furrin slam-piece.


Actually I haven't "studied" any languages that way. My Russian handle-notches are, I think, zero. Only close call I can even remember was a Moldovan (in a war zone - ours, not hers).


Though I'll repeat my suggestion of months ago. If you can swing it, hie thee off to some foreign land to study language. Including having it f**ked into you, ahemm.


Speaking - sadly - mostly from observation and not experience, I'd say candidates abound. My original 3 "unaccompanied" countries (don't go with a gf etc.) were Brazil, Israel, and Vietnam. But realistically there are many more.


Posted by: rhomboid at February 24, 2016 02:22 AM (QDnY+)

530 @525 Cowboy

Agreed.

Posted by: Viking at February 24, 2016 02:22 AM (6y/kW)

531 that is, so people understand, I wrote something like "America needs courageous conservatives LIKE MIKE FLYNN..." the courageous conservative was about Flynn, not Cruz, but I imagined those would be words that would appeal to Cruz's sense of his own brand.

and i was right.

no, never worked for him.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:23 AM (dciA+)

532 When it's time to start stringing people up plenty of you RINO's will be hanging on the same lampposts as Democrats, since you all enjoy having cocktails together and sneering at us heathens.

I'm nowhere near being a RINO. I am a pragmatic conservative, which is quickly becoming a dying breed. This evidenced by the support for Donald Trump, who is neither conservative, pragmatic, or a potential President.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 02:23 AM (KRwzj)

533 It's weird... the word "ceiling" seems to have gotten much less popular over the last few hours.

Posted by: Jake at February 24, 2016 02:23 AM (EHLQv)

534 The gope would happily shove Jeb or some other clown down our throats and justify it by screaming "Better than Hillary!"

No more of that shit.

No more.

Posted by: eman at February 24, 2016 02:24 AM (MQEz6)

535 I'd like to say that I'm too principled to run a fake campaign even if it meant raking in millions of dollars in personal profit. I'm not sure I can.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 02:18 AM (KRwzj)

****

You can't even effectively rebut comments here that criticize your positions at some Damn Dirty Conservative blog. You ignore them.

I'm thinking you are correct when you choose to stay very, very local.

Good Lord. Bless your heart.

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 02:24 AM (YLidQ)

536 I am so sorry for your friend, Carol. Prayers.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 24, 2016 02:24 AM (1uwuc)

537 Look at the English "to run" in all its conjugations:

http://www.verbix.com/webverbix/English/run.html

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:14 AM (dciA+)


There are other forms, too:

"going running"
"going to run"
"going to be running"
"went running"
etc.

In these, "to go" is serving as part of the verbal time/action structure just as in the normal forms - all ways of describing the action of running as the sentence predicate.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 02:24 AM (zc3Db)

538 Nite all.

I got an extra kick tonight out of Perino mentioning AOS. Jules never really believed me that they read the same stupid website I did till she heard that tonight.

Ace, you get a promotion.

Be well you Morons.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2016 02:24 AM (o/90i)

539 Tentative GOP #NVcaucus delegate allocation (23% in):

Trump 13
Rubio 7
Cruz 7
Carson 2
Kasich 1

Posted by: The Predicting Hat at February 24, 2016 02:25 AM (vBeA5)

540 In the interest of giving everyone a much needed laugh and no, I do not do Instagram, someone posted this on Facebook.

Kanye and Kim

https://www.instagram.com/p/BCGcjKXMkN1/

It's not what you think.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at February 24, 2016 02:25 AM (kXoT0)

541 How does Nate Silver ever recover from a Trump nomination?

Posted by: cm9000 at February 24, 2016 02:25 AM (2TUVm)

542 >> my goodness, compare that to any page of foreign language conjugations.

Japanese conjugations are way way worse. You have to learn all that same stuff essentially, but then again times 4 for all the different honorifics depending on who you're talking to. More actually. There is polite, and then there is super duper polite. You can take something polite and make it ridiculously polite by saying things like "I was honorifically caused to do the thing of running". And it's not at all uncommon to talk like that. Like instead of asking someone to pass the salt, you'll say something like "will you please cause the salt to be moved towards me." English doesn't have this. What English does have is inconsistency. There's a bunch of exceptions here and there to the rule, which I imagine are a PITA to learn.

Posted by: Rastus at February 24, 2016 02:25 AM (VjlMj)

543 Assuming Cruz wins Texas, big assumption I know, that would make the 15MAR delegate count TRUMP - CRUZ - RUBIO; at that point who has more money?

Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2016 02:26 AM (cXiMR)

544 The difference between men and women's speech in Jpns is vast. You can't get away with just copying your lady friend in Japanese. It will lead to monumental gaffs that will be repeated for years in the hallways of that office.


Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 02:14 AM (Qy3YA)


A little more than mere grammatical mistakes ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 02:26 AM (zc3Db)

545 "Pray for Gayle to die peacefully soon."

Wow, Carol, I'm amazed your friend is still alive. I thought she would live only another week or so after your first observation of her diagnosis.

I'll send off a round of my admittedly but determinedly half-arsed prayers that she passes away comfortably, and quickly. Cancer is horrific.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 24, 2016 02:26 AM (noWW6)

546 497
>>>

Had a Vietnamese gf once, spent a fair amount of time in V'Nam (met
her in the US). Finally started doing V'mese lessons, even though I was
sort of languaged-out (German, Russian, Portuguese, lots of formal
edumucation therein and for the latter two lots of use "in the field").



a friend and I agreed the proper way to learn a language is to have it fucked into you.



yes i've read about japanese's limited phonemes, and how that's good
for us learning japanese, and bad for the poor japanese learning
english, who have to learn a bunch of sounds they have never made
before.



a big sticking point is japan's incredibly complex writing system.



eh, one day.





Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:10 AM (dciA+)


Which one of Japan's THREE complex writing systems are you thinking is "incredibly complex". One might suppose a civilization would nail that down to one in the early going....

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2016 02:27 AM (EzgxV)

547 >>>
But 1984 and real-life suggest that there is some truth to a limitation in vocabulary leading to a limitation in viewpoints -- a "weak form" of Sapir-Whorf.

depends on how weak you mean. I hate to go back to McWhorter, but McWhorter noted that some people tried to prove this thesis by asking people to describe keys and forks. In a country where a key had a male gender, they described the key using masculine words (I assume they were prompted with these words, and asked to choose the most applicable). So where keys were 'male," they called keys "strong." In countries where keys were "female," they called them "fine" and "slender."

Okay, McWhorter says, you have now successfully proven than in a highly artificial situation of feeding people humanized adjectives to describe keys -- something that never happens in real life -- a german will call a key "strong" and a spaniard will call it "slender."

Okay-- granted. You have successfully proven that a minor grammatical conceit has some slight effect on how people behave in a very contrived situation.

And, he says-- is that it? Is that the limit of your claim for the impact of language on cognition?

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:28 AM (dciA+)

548 >>>
Which one of Japan's THREE complex writing systems are you thinking is "incredibly complex". One might suppose a civilization would nail that down to one in the early going....

well the chinese type characters are the hardest, I understand, and they are used alongside the somewhat more straightforward Kana (???) system.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:29 AM (dciA+)

549 ChristyBlinky

Take care of yourself with the Whooping Cough. A dear friend had it last summer and she relapsed with it 3 times.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at February 24, 2016 02:29 AM (kXoT0)

550 I don't think English is super-complicated at all.

Posted by: ace


Ah, but English IS the most "complicated" of all languages in four ways:

1. It has far and away the largest vocabulary. No other languages come even close, because English happily "borrows" any word from any language that seems apropos and satiates a definition for which we don't currently have a good word. So English is heavy with loan-words and borrowed words which have over time become English words as well. English has become the catch-all uber-language which encompasses all vocabularies in all languages.

2. It is the only major language derived from two totally dissimilar root languages -- Old Low German, which is (obviously) Germanic, and medieval French, which is a Romance language. Two totally different syntactic structures head-on traincrashed into each other after the Norman Conquest, producing a very weird portmanteau language based on two fundamentally different root systems. Also, there's some Old Norse thrown in the there from the earlier Viking invasions, which also affected the grammar somewhat. Almost no other languages have such a schizoid family history.

3. English "slang," or vernacular, is crazily varied and extremely rapidly evolving, far faster than any other language, and the slang becomes part of everyday speech very quickly as well, so the "rules" are always in flux.

4. English, in theory, may not be as technically complicated as German, but English more than makes up for this with its countless "exceptions" and special cases, which even native speakers have a hard time keeping track of, and which far outnumber the exceptions in any other language.

Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2016 02:30 AM (jBuUi)

551 The method of thinking to speak in English is very different from most other languages (that I'm aware of) and that leads to very different cultures (though a culture can bend English to its will over a long enough period).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


We also have this thing called a 'carriage return' and or 'paragraph break.'

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 02:30 AM (Qy3YA)

552 A "pragmatic conservative" never wins and always waits for next year.

Posted by: eman at February 24, 2016 02:30 AM (MQEz6)

553 Drudge headline:
"Nominee" w Trump's pic.

Posted by: Viking at February 24, 2016 02:34 AM (6y/kW)

554 @549, thanks, Darlin', but I am full of crap, similar to our politicians. I think I DID have it a few years ago, before the doctors recognized it. It does form a web over throat, and the coughing, lawd, lasted for a month.

No, this is some wimpy virus. I get dramatic sometimes and hate being ill, am rarely ill (thnk God, former nurses are terrible patients). It is no fever, night coughing, some weird back sinus drainage, and bitchiness (sounds like what Hilz has, no?). Thank you for caring. I am better today, so will return to stupid housework and cooking and whatever else i need to do (oh! I was elected to take MIL to podiatrist on Friday! That should be a blast). xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 24, 2016 02:35 AM (1uwuc)

555 Ace, it is quite a compliment to be asked to write the endorsement, so congratulations for that. Also, congratulations (?) for being copied by TrusTed.

I remember seeing his endorsement coming in so late and thinking that it was cowardly and way too late.

Cruz has been so demonized by both sides, I'm actually surprised he's gotten as far as he has this time around.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 24, 2016 02:35 AM (GzDYP)

556 How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Enschlongening.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 24, 2016 02:35 AM (VdICR)

557 552
A "pragmatic conservative" never wins and always waits for next year.

Posted by: eman at February 24, 2016 02:30 AM (MQEz6)


It's a man who's having an argument with his girlfriend over whether or not to get a cat. He really doesn't want one, but they compromise and get a cat.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 02:35 AM (J+mig)

558 Language in practice:

We planned to send a guy who was a complete Neanderthal, we played rugby together years ago - he still works at a bar, to the cherry blossom festival wearing a t-shirt that says in kanji script -- I need a japanese girlfriend.

He said no, didn't trust us and thought it said something gay because of the light blue color.

Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2016 02:35 AM (cXiMR)

559 Made the mistake of browsing around FreeRepublic... They've gone from the amusingly quirky of 1999 to apeshit insane...*sigh*

Posted by: Phil at February 24, 2016 02:36 AM (PTq8m)

560 505
Good Night. I've had enough for today.

One of my best work friends has had Stage IV brain cancer, diagnosed a month after she retired, tumor the size of a golf ball.

She had surgery November 12 was going to have both chemo radiation (one at a time sucked) decided not to.

She wanted more quality time that time is up.



Stop thinking posting about politics to think of one of the
nicest women I've known I had to set up FB to read she
hasn't any time left-1-2 weeks.



Pray for Gayle to die peacefully soon. Her husband Paul updated her
FB to write his heart is broken, she's fallen twice in past week
injured herself more. Paul wrote she only wants to die quickly
peacefully.



Please pray for Gayle her husband Paul.



Thank you.



Posted by: Carol at February 24, 2016 02:14 AM (sj3Ax)


May God in His mercy cease the torment of Gayle and Paul, and receive them both into His grace -- Gayle into His Presence, and Paul into His Peace.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2016 02:37 AM (EzgxV)

561 It's a man who's having an argument with his girlfriend over whether or not to get a cat. He really doesn't want one, but they compromise and get a cat.

And then he gets anal.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 02:37 AM (KRwzj)

562 >>> It has far and away the largest vocabulary. No other languages come even close, because English happily "borrows" any word from any language that seems apropos and satiates a definition for which we don't currently have a good word. So English is heavy with loan-words and borrowed words which have over time become English words as well. English has become the catch-all uber-language which encompasses all vocabularies in all languages.

doesn't matter. one, a person's actual vocabulary is never more than a fraction of the total possible vocabulary, and two, languages with allegedly more "limited" vocabularies have teh same range of expression -- you just have to learn the 36 possible meanings of the simple word "mettre" (to put), for example.

the sheer number of words is less important than the number of defintions, and on the latter account, languages with "fewer words" like French and Spanish kinda of eat up a lot of the track and catch up to english.

2. It is the only major language derived from two totally dissimilar root languages -- Old Low German, which is (obviously) Germanic, and medieval French, which is a Romance language. Two totally different syntactic structures head-on traincrashed into each other after the Norman Conquest, producing a very weird portmanteau language based on two fundamentally different root systems. Also, there's some Old Norse thrown in the there from the earlier Viking invasions, which also affected the grammar somewhat. Almost no other languages have such a schizoid family history.

read mcwhorter's "Our Magnificent Bastard Tongue." Actually this crashing of languages into eachother SIMPLIFIED the language. For example, when an already existing germanic population of england was invaded by new arrivals from Viking lands, who spoke a *different* form of German, they found their languages were incompatible... until they dropped the conjugated endings (which were the main point of difference) and simplified words down to their stems.

the pidginization or creolization of languages tends to produce simpler languages... which is what happened with english. and i couldn't be happier about that.

3. as far as slang, I don't know. I kind of doubt this. When I listen to French songs they are nigh incomprehensible because they're all slang. Listen to Ca Plane Pour Moi for example.

4. English, in theory, may not be as technically complicated as German, but English more than makes up for this with its countless "exceptions" and special cases, which even native speakers have a hard time keeping track of, and which far outnumber the exceptions in any other language.

...

I think the exceptions and patch rules make it more complicated but it's hard to overcome english's starting low level of complexity.


Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:37 AM (dciA+)

563
Cruz creeping up.

Trump 43%

Rubio 24.3

Cruz 22.9

Posted by: Meremortal at February 24, 2016 02:37 AM (3myMJ)

564 Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 02:37 AM (KRwzj)


No, no, you don't get it at all. He gets nothing.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 02:38 AM (J+mig)

565 Thank you.

>>>I remember seeing his endorsement coming in so late and thinking that it was cowardly and way too late.

yeah i didn't want to say so at the time, but I was annoyed, and it took me a while to get past that. I didn't want to criticize him, because he had endorsed mike, but it came so very, very late...

but whatever, it happens. I blame Rick Tyler.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:39 AM (dciA+)

566 The suffix -chan is what Japanese use to describe someone they adore. Because their culture is hilariously bizarre, they referred to Schwarzenegger as Schwa-chan.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 24, 2016 02:39 AM (VdICR)

567 What lefty sites are happy about Trump? Because the lefty pro's here inside the Beltway are scared shitless of him.

Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2016 02:40 AM (cXiMR)

568 cruz 23.3
rubio 24

trump 43

hmmmm

Posted by: concrete girl at February 24, 2016 02:40 AM (0KgAM)

569 For f**ks sake...

Man confronts people dressed as KKK members at NV caucus site

http://bit.ly/1S0szcZ

Posted by: The Pollitical Hat at February 24, 2016 02:40 AM (vBeA5)

570 Hollowpoint is right.

I look forward to all the tears and blame shifting in 9 months when we have President elect Hillary and she's already announced who will be her SCOTUS pick.

Posted by: ByebyeCruz at February 24, 2016 02:41 AM (VPfwu)

571 Carol, I put a prayer in the ONT.

I have been through too many of these cancer death watches. It is sheer unadulterated misery. Most recently, my fiance this past December. Hugs to your and yours.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at February 24, 2016 02:41 AM (kXoT0)

572 The thousand surrenders we have endured from the Boehner Ryan crowd are not 3 dimensional Vulcan chess that will somehow translate into ultimate victory. You are giving away the keys to the kingdom for a promise of magic beans tomorrow. There are no beans, and there is no magic.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 02:41 AM (J+mig)

573 I am sorry for your loss, Carol. May God keep you.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:41 AM (dciA+)

574 Ace, thanks for commenting in the thread, and carrying on in general.

and we still need those shirts!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 02:42 AM (Qy3YA)

575 i don't think linguistic complexity is something to be proud of.

I actually wonder if Russian culture is held back by how very, very hard just learning their language is. (So I hear -- I hear it's among the most complicated languages.)

A simple rule-set for a language has great advantages.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:44 AM (dciA+)

576
570 Hollowpoint is right.

I look forward to all the tears and blame shifting in 9 months when we have President elect Hillary and she's already announced who will be her SCOTUS pick.
Posted by: ByebyeCruz at February 24, 2016 02:41 AM (VPfwu)

We are not afraid anymore.

Too bad, gope.

Posted by: eman at February 24, 2016 02:45 AM (MQEz6)

577 There are no beans, and there is no magic.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 02:41 AM (J+mig)

Agreed. Their is only the Beltway and its high priest--the consultants and lobbyists. They are the only winners each and every election. A vile untreatable pox on them all--perhaps those newly imported STDs with the genital lesions, n'est ce pas?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at February 24, 2016 02:45 AM (kXoT0)

578 I blame Rick Tyler.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:39 AM (dciA+)

Obv!

Sometimes Cruz looks actually terrified. So does Rand Paul. I don't know, maybe they're just lonely.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 24, 2016 02:47 AM (GzDYP)

579 We are not afraid anymore.

Too bad, gope.
Posted by: eman at February 24, 2016 02:45 AM (MQEz6)

Yeppers. I am getting at least 2 political poll calls a day and I just hang up on them. They do not want to know what I think, they just want a completed poll so they can parse the results into the desired shape and size. Facketh them and all their workz. I am done.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at February 24, 2016 02:47 AM (kXoT0)

580 English is a RISC language, compared to most other languages which are CISC languages. This is the main difference and why there is more flexibility and more intricacy in English. Much more. The same difference occurred in alphabets when the Greeks took the Hebrew alphabet and, mistakenly, thought that some of the guttural consonants were vowels and introduced independent vowels into the alphabet which made it infinitely more flexible and powerful than the vowel-less alphabets (which still relied, in good part, on known - and limited - word forms to be able to spell without vowels). The introduction of separate vowels was a huge step, though at the time many would have pointed out that there didn't seem to be much difference.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 02:47 AM (zc3Db)

581 547
>>>

But 1984 and real-life suggest that there is some truth to a
limitation in vocabulary leading to a limitation in viewpoints -- a
"weak form" of Sapir-Whorf.



depends on how weak you mean. I hate to go back to McWhorter, but
McWhorter noted that some people tried to prove this thesis by asking
people to describe keys and forks. In a country where a key had a male
gender, they described the key using masculine words (I assume they were
prompted with these words, and asked to choose the most applicable). So
where keys were 'male," they called keys "strong." In countries where
keys were "female," they called them "fine" and "slender."



Okay, McWhorter says, you have now successfully proven than in a
highly artificial situation of feeding people humanized adjectives to
describe keys -- something that never happens in real life -- a german
will call a key "strong" and a spaniard will call it "slender."



Okay-- granted. You have successfully proven that a minor
grammatical conceit has some slight effect on how people behave in a
very contrived situation.



And, he says-- is that it? Is that the limit of your claim for the impact of language on cognition?





Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 02:28 AM (dciA+)


McWhorter is clinging to commonplace speech, while the real payoff from Sapir-Whorf is in SJW-land. Can you shift the Overton Window and manipulate the zeitgeist through vocabulary?.....and I would suggest that it's a powerful influence.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2016 02:48 AM (EzgxV)

582 My Russian grades in college: D, C, C, C despite scoring a '2' on the DoD scale. I went to college back when the Fulda Gap was a thing.

Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2016 02:49 AM (cXiMR)

583 575 i don't think linguistic complexity is something to be proud of.

I actually wonder if Russian culture is held back by how very, very hard just learning their language is. (So I hear -- I hear it's among the most complicated languages.)

A simple rule-set for a language has great advantages.

Posted by: ace


One of my mother's ex-boyfriends was a super-smart (but disgustingly amoral) dude who was fluent in five languages, and had some knowldge of at least 12 others. So in his fifties he decided to take up Tibetan Buddhism, and of course in his pretentious way he announced that he was going to learn the Tibetan language too.

Three years later he basically had a nervous breakdown: Tibetan had utterly defeated him, and even after three years he had barely begun to scratch the surface of understanding it.

He sid that in his opinion it is the most difficult-to-learn language on Earth.

I have no idea if this is actually true -- just reporting one asshole's opinion.

Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2016 02:49 AM (jBuUi)

584 I look forward to all the tears and blame shifting in 9 months when we have President elect Hillary and she's already announced who will be her SCOTUS pick.

I wish I could look forward to that, but we can both see how it'll actually go down.

"All you people who predicted that Trump wouldn't win are the reasons that Trump didn't win!"

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 02:50 AM (KRwzj)

585 Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at February 24, 2016 02:47 AM (kXoT0)



Every time I hear the GOPe crowd blathering on with all of their consultant cult consensus, I remember a line from Mark Twain: "It takes a lot of education to believe so many things that just ain't so."

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 02:50 AM (J+mig)

586 Threads like this one are a big part of why I love this place.


Carry on.

Posted by: Piercello at February 24, 2016 02:50 AM (RXfvh)

587 I wish I could look forward to that, but we can both see how it'll actually go down.

"All you people who predicted that Trump wouldn't win are the reasons that Trump didn't win!"
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 02:50 AM (KRwzj)

****

Like Life, math is hard. It's harder when you're....

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 02:51 AM (YLidQ)

588 Regarding the English vocabulary: it is similar in scope to ancient Greek. Classical Latin, in contrast, has an exceedingly small vocabulary. Tiny. Lots of words do double and treble duty in Latin. Greek has a different word for every evocative pose.

It's interesting, Latin was always considered the more precise anyway. All science, engineering and law texts were written in Latin long, long after the language had no native speakers left on Earth.

Greek was always, always, considered to be more heartfelt and human. The language of the soul.

Sentence examples from the first day of Latin I (this is an exact translation):

"Britain is an island. It is not small. The inhabitants of Britain are farmers."

Sentence examples from the first day of Greek I (this is an exact translation):

"The soul is deathless. The Golden Mean is best. A woman and the sea are equal in their anger."

There's a psychological insight there. For a long, long time it was said people come in two flavors. They are either Roman, or Greek.

Posted by: Cowboy at February 24, 2016 02:52 AM (0VO5Q)

589 Per the SouthPark guys in Team America, there are 3 types of people in this world, dicks, pussies, and assholes.

That is wisdom there.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at February 24, 2016 02:53 AM (dvuhZ)

590 Ace,
Thank you! She's not gone yet, but will be very soon.

Posted by: Carol at February 24, 2016 02:53 AM (sj3Ax)

591 Cruz is now barely ahead of Rubio..

Posted by: TexasJew at February 24, 2016 02:53 AM (Cab6l)

592 I wrote a paper using the "weak" Sapir-Whorf on Russian, but focused on its grammar, not lexicon. Russian grammar has some features that may exist individually in other languages, but taking them all together suggests a tendency or predisposition to a mindset of lack of agency.

a) there's no present tense of the verb "to be", so you cannot actually say "I am [any noun/adjective]"
b) one cannot have anything concrete in the present tense, one has to use the circumlocution "at me red hair" for example
c) verbs of control, management, driving, etc. do not take the direct object, so that one cannot "drive the car" but drives by means of the car
d) the personal possessive adjectives are generally avoided; instead of "come to my house" it's "come toward me to the house" or suchlike
e) natural phenomena in particular just happen without subject, e.g. "twilights" is used for "it's getting dark"

So, if I'm brought up in a linguistic setting where I can't express that I am anything right now or that I have anything or that I control anything directly, and outside stuff just sort of happens, then maybe I might tend to a bit of fatalism or a feeling of a lack of control or personal authority. Of course, it doesn't mean that I could never think outside of these constraints, just that they might feel rather natural for me.

Posted by: Trotsky w/a thesis in his headwound at February 24, 2016 02:54 AM (Y4Gwv)

593 ace, Russian is not that hard (for an English-speaker, can't address what it's like for an Uzbek or Georgian). Six cases. Some silly guttural combos (pronounce Khrushchev properly), palatalization makes your tongue sore for a while (soft "r"s and "ch"s, etc.).


Couple verb patterns, lots of regularity. Sketchy "perfective" thing meaning either future or completed action, but it's not that bad.


Learn the alphabet in one night, as explained earlier.


I'm trying to revive my comprehension/vocabulary by watching Russian TV news on the web and reading news sites.


Thing is, not that useful. I learned it when They were the Other Important Country. Had the pleasure of spending months there during the glorious days of Soviet power.


Posted by: rhomboid at February 24, 2016 02:54 AM (QDnY+)

594 Every time I hear the GOPe crowd blathering on with all of their consultant cult consensus, I remember a line from Mark Twain: "It takes a lot of education to believe so many things that just ain't so."
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 02:50 AM (J+mig)

I like the logic that says "Why? Yes. Yes, you little SJW freak, you are entitled to your opinion, but, you are not entitled to your own facts."

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at February 24, 2016 02:54 AM (kXoT0)

595 At this point, if Trump wins the nomination is whether he'll intentionally or unintentionally throw the election to his good friends the Clintons.

It's worth remembering that he called Bill Clinton to get his blessing before running.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 02:55 AM (KRwzj)

596 Trotsky, interesting analysis and spot-on. There is a lack of "agency" in Russian verbs, now that you mention it.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 24, 2016 02:56 AM (QDnY+)

597 Hollowpoint - do you really think its a conspiracy?

Posted by: Viking at February 24, 2016 02:57 AM (6y/kW)

598 Had the pleasure of spending months there during the glorious days of Soviet power.




Posted by: rhomboid


Understood the use when we were planning on killing hordes of them, now I just prefer the strippers learn English to please me.

Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2016 02:57 AM (cXiMR)

599 It's worth remembering that he called Bill Clinton to get his blessing before running.

Posted by: Hollowpoint


Consider yourself in the same driver's seat; why on earth would you throw it?

One wouldn't be much of a politician to throw it now, would one?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 02:58 AM (Qy3YA)

600 It's worth remembering that he called Bill Clinton to get his blessing before running.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 02:55 AM (KRwzj)

True. However, I do not think that BJ wants Hillz to be POTUS. I think he would be quite happy to finally see her smacked down for good. Going back to the WH as First Gentleman has no upside for him--the trips to pedo island stop, Energizer Bunny has to disappear, etc. I don't The Chelz wants Mommy to be POTUS either--very little upside for her as well.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at February 24, 2016 02:58 AM (kXoT0)

601 If only Kasich had dropped out so his 1000 voters could go for Rubio...

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 24, 2016 02:59 AM (GzDYP)

602 Hollowpoint - do you really think its a conspiracy?

I honestly don't know.

Given his long friendship with the Clintons, not to mention his history of liberal positions, I don't see how anybody could really know.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 03:00 AM (KRwzj)

603 Trumps ego will not let him throw the election. BillC thought he was introducing a bit of chaos into the Republican primary, good for a few laughs. Now, Trump smells it.

Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2016 03:00 AM (cXiMR)

604 Indo-european languages seem more normal to us because we are native speakers of an Indo-european languages.

Just listen to how ancient languages sound like. Chances those that sound more "normal" are Indo-European.

Posted by: The Indo-European Hat at February 24, 2016 03:01 AM (vBeA5)

605 Has anyone blamed donktard cross overs for Trumps thumping of Cruz yet?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 03:01 AM (WVsWD)

606 Wow, at this moment Cruz and Rubio and literally tied for second place -- just a few hundredths of a percentage point separating them.

By this time I finish writing this sentence in the simplicated English language, they probably will have switched places again.

Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2016 03:02 AM (jBuUi)

607 Indo-european languages seem more normal to us because we are native speakers of an Indo-european languages.

Just listen to how ancient languages sound like. Chances those that sound more "normal" are Indo-European.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENiNRZ7Hldk

Posted by: The Indo-European Hat at February 24, 2016 03:03 AM (vBeA5)

608 Consider yourself in the same driver's seat; why on earth would you throw it?

If I didn't really want the job in the first place?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 03:03 AM (KRwzj)

609 "I fully embrace the fact that I am not particularly special or smart."-Hollowpoint

Keep embracing that fact.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at February 24, 2016 03:03 AM (I0sxh)

610 Thank you rhomboid!

There's a notable passivity in Russians. Their first saints, the brothers Boris and Gleb, were canonized not for any particular sanctity --- they were princes --- but for not trying to escape and live when assassins came to kill them. They just waited and submitted. Ah, skromnost'

Posted by: Trotsky w/a thesis in his headwound at February 24, 2016 03:04 AM (Y4Gwv)

611 At this point, if Trump wins the nomination is whether he'll intentionally or unintentionally throw the election to his good friends the Clintons.

It's worth remembering that he called Bill Clinton to get his blessing before running.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 02:55 AM (KRwzj)

****

Well, sure. Because the man is intent on pissing away Millions of his own cash just to lose, when he has a history of really not liking to lose.

Makes total sense, really.

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 03:04 AM (YLidQ)

612 OK, in the entire state of Nevada, 29 "people" voted for Jeb Bush, putting him at one-tenth of a percent.

Who are these people? Pranksters? The comatose? Time-travellers from 1988?

Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2016 03:05 AM (jBuUi)

613 Mebbe if the GOP wanted to demonstrate a commitment to a water-tight voting system that didn't allow undocumented and illegal voters, now would have been the best alpha? No?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 24, 2016 03:05 AM (Qy3YA)

614 Keep embracing that fact.

I will. Just as I'll always find comfort in the fact that I wasn't gullible enough to be a Trump supporter.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 03:05 AM (KRwzj)

615 173 Trump == Bull
DC == China Shop

That is my hope; that is my dream.

It's not about idealism at this point any more. It's about retribution against the Uniparty Crime Syndicate that has hijacked our country.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 24, 2016 12:49 AM (1CroS)



DingDingDing. Precisely. Threadwinner.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2016 03:05 AM (sdi6R)

616 "donktard"

Lol, but I haven't heard that theory here yet. I do know the libs are preferring Trump to Hillary, though. Well, anyone to Hillary, really. They're sick of her for their own libby reasons.

Posted by: Viking at February 24, 2016 03:06 AM (6y/kW)

617 OK, in the entire state of Nevada, 29 "people" voted for Jeb Bush, putting him at one-tenth of a percent.

Who are these people? Pranksters? The comatose? Time-travellers from 1988?

Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2016 03:05 AM (jBuUi)


Technically, Bush received zero because any vote for a candidate who dropped out is considered null and void, and consequently not counted.

Posted by: The counting Hat at February 24, 2016 03:06 AM (vBeA5)

618 The big news?

Trump in NV now has more votes than Hillary and Sanders combined.

Hell, the Ds and the Rs probably count their caucus votes differently anyway, but it is a good soundbite nonetheless!

Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2016 03:07 AM (jBuUi)

619 I will. Just as I'll always find comfort in the fact that I wasn't gullible enough to be a Trump supporter.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 03:05 AM (KRwzj)

*****

You and your GOPe friends are 0 for 2 over 8 years.

Feeling good about that?

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 03:08 AM (YLidQ)

620 >>>McWhorter is clinging to commonplace speech, while the real payoff from Sapir-Whorf is in SJW-land. Can you shift the Overton Window and manipulate the zeitgeist through vocabulary?.....and I would suggest that it's a powerful influence

oh i see what you're saying. yes i agree with that idea, that the words that populate a language are a clue to what that culture values (or hates).

But i don't buy this thing about being able to tell something about the mind of a spanish speaker due to some aspect like the verb "gustar" doesn't mean to like, but to be pleased by.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 03:10 AM (dciA+)

621 Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2016 03:07 AM (jBuUi)



I think it's because nobody bothers going to Democrat primaries anymore. Like North Korea, democracy is just an ornament they wear to feel good about themselves, not a functional part of how they run the things. Their primary process is a coronation, and the winner is decided long before the first vote is ever cast.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 03:10 AM (J+mig)

622 Trump wins canada turd crud and punkass rubio losers!

Posted by: kurtz at February 24, 2016 03:11 AM (Jz2Lw)

623 Looks like the Trump supporters are out in force gloating over Trump's win. First it was 7 years of obama supporters running their mouths. Looks like it's going to be at least 4 years of Trump supporters running their mouths. God truly fucking hates us all.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 03:12 AM (UnJ7w)

624 Just wait until Jan. 21, 2017 when they show President Trump the extraterrestrials imprisoned under Area 51. He'll emerge ashen-faced and will be a compliant little whipped puppy thenceforth.

Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2016 03:13 AM (jBuUi)

625 Jean, one of the many as-yet unexplained mysteries of the USSR was how/where they concealed the babe-itude.


A whole summer in Leningrad. Being 20, we guys were interested in one thing. International understanding. Fluency in Russian. The lectures we endured at the Zhdanov Institute of Marxism-Leninism (close enough). Peace. Disarmament. The success of the coming Moscow olympiad.


Uh, no. Girls. Duh.


In all those months, only one confirmed sighting. Two Party brats (obvious from the setting and their denim) at a teahouse, a modern fancy teahouse (by Soviet standards). That's it.


Anyway, I go back after the collapse and ..... talent everywhere. WTF?

Posted by: rhomboid at February 24, 2016 03:13 AM (QDnY+)

626 Trump wins canada turd crud and punkass rubio losers!
Posted by: kurtz at February 24, 2016 03:11 AM (Jz2Lw)


This is what I'm talking about. This^^^^^^
Get ready for 4 years of reading shit like this from Trump fans.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 03:14 AM (UnJ7w)

627 582
My Russian grades in college: D, C, C, C despite scoring a '2' on the
DoD scale. I went to college back when the Fulda Gap was a thing.


Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2016 02:49 AM (cXiMR)


Having studied some Russian and been to Russia, some of the stuff that is most infuriating is easy to get past, and some of the stuff you can't imagine would be a problem is a humungous pain-in-the-ass. For example, the Cyrillic alphabet....it's really not so bad. When I was a kid, I used to puzzle my way through dual-language Greek/English books, so I was familiar with many of the greek forms; and there aren't so many letters that it's impossible to learn.

OTOH, (a) the most common expressions imaginable are 14-syllable tongue twisters ("welcome" = "da-bro
pa-zha-la-vat"), and (b) any common name has six different nicknames that seem unrelated -- e.g. "Ivan", "Vanya", or "Ivanushka" for "John"; or "Volodya", "Vova", "Vovochka" for "Vladimir".

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2016 03:14 AM (EzgxV)

628 President Trump will deal with free trade scum who want to send our jobs out of the country and bring in illegals to what jobs are left!

Posted by: kurtz at February 24, 2016 03:14 AM (Jz2Lw)

629 Looks like the Trump supporters are out in force gloating over Trump's win. First it was 7 years of obama supporters running their mouths. Looks like it's going to be at least 4 years of Trump supporters running their mouths. God truly fucking hates us all.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 03:12 AM (UnJ7w)

*****

Naahhhh, the gloating comes next week after after Super/SEC Tuesday.

Thanks for playing though.

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 03:15 AM (YLidQ)

630 A vote for Trump is a vote for President Hillary.

You have to be deep deep in a bubble to not see that.

Record numbers of Hispanics and Latinos registering to vote in the last week. Can't imagine why.

Posted by: ByebyeCruz at February 24, 2016 03:15 AM (VPfwu)

631 You and your GOPe friends are 0 for 2 over 8 years.

Feeling good about that?


The GOP have won 18.

Reality TV stars have won 0.

Feeling good about that?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 03:15 AM (KRwzj)

632 >>>e) natural phenomena in particular just happen without subject, e.g. "twilights" is used for "it's getting dark"

let me point out that "it's getting dark" has no real subject either; this is the Dummy Subject construction, where you obscure the actual subject (here, the sky, the ambiance, the air) because it's a bother and because everyone knows what you mean.

Languages have these dummy subjects, but they're not real subjects. "It's raining" -- what is it? I suppose one means the clouds, but does one really mean that? when one says "it's raining," does someone have any actual subject in mind?

No- -- but grammar demands a subject, so you pop in a dummy subject. French has "il y a" (It had there), spanish "hay" (it had). doesn't mean anything, except that's the construction you use to start these sentences.

to have a Null Subject in the case of "twilights" is no big deal given that everyone else uses a dummy subject -- essentially a null subject -- too.

Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 03:16 AM (dciA+)

633 President Trump will deal with free trade scum who want to send our jobs out of the country and bring in illegals to what jobs are left!
Posted by: kurtz at February 24, 2016 03:14 AM (Jz2Lw)


That's weird, Trump told Dana Bash he was going to give illegals special status to come back into the country and do jobs Americans don't want to do. I'm sure your brain won't process that though.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 03:16 AM (UnJ7w)

634 Naahhhh, the gloating comes next week after after Super/SEC Tuesday.

Thanks for playing though.
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 03:15 AM (YLidQ)

Okay white Peggy Joseph.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 03:18 AM (UnJ7w)

635 The GOP have won 18.

Reality TV stars have won 0.

Feeling good about that?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 03:15 AM (KRwzj)

******

Ask me in the middle of next November.

Now, about that ignoring thing you do......

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 03:18 AM (YLidQ)

636 625 Jean, one of the many as-yet unexplained mysteries of the USSR was how/where they concealed the babe-itude. ...
In all those months, only one confirmed sighting. Two Party brats (obvious from the setting and their denim) at a teahouse, a modern fancy teahouse (by Soviet standards). That's it.

Anyway, I go back after the collapse and ..... talent everywhere. WTF?
Posted by: rhomboid


Same thing happened in Czechoslovakia.

I was there very briefly before the wall came down, and everybody was middle-aged and dumpy.

Went again in the early '90s and everybody was a college-age blonde sexpot with mile-long legs, miniskirt and a "lust for life."

My only explanation is that communism drains the life and soul from a society, and once it disappears, the sexy returns as if from nowhere!

Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2016 03:19 AM (jBuUi)

637 Ask me in the middle of next November.

The numbers I cited will have remained the same. But have fun at Wrestlemania.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 03:20 AM (KRwzj)

638 623---- Looks like it's going to be at least 4 years of Trump supporters running their mouths. God truly fucking hates us all.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 03:12 AM (UnJ7w)
-------------------------
Nah. Just a few months of that.
Four years of hearing the infernal squawk of the Bitch of Benghazi.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 24, 2016 03:21 AM (T/5A0)

639 President Trump will clear out all of these ayn randist free trade sociopaths and start building factories here again!

Posted by: kurtz at February 24, 2016 03:22 AM (Jz2Lw)

640 If you were not a Trump supporter before, you better prepare to be one now. Sorry, I did not write that script.

The two-party system in American politics makes you generally hold your nose and vote for one, or hold your nose and vote for the other, or stay home. Sorry, I didn't write that script, either.

Barring SMOD and even more chaos and astonishment parachuting into things now, Donald J. Trump, of all people, is in the driver's seat for the GOP nomination. How in the hell that happened historians can decide, but we have an electric exploding carrot who has turned up behind the wheel.

Sure on paper the other guys might do something. They have had half a year to solve Donald J. Trump, who ought to have been easy pickings one would think. If they could not have solved that problem now, why would they in two weeks? With Donald standing there mocking them and daring them?

The day is coming soon when you will be either on the Trump Train or the Socialism Express or in self-exile.

And that's where we are going. Maybe the day to make that decision isn't here yet, but odds are it will arrive at your doorstep soon. So be prepared.

Posted by: Cowboy at February 24, 2016 03:22 AM (0VO5Q)

641 The numbers I cited will have remained the same. But have fun at Wrestlemania.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 24, 2016 03:20 AM (KRwzj)

****

Awesome. We have a bet then. Right?

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 03:22 AM (YLidQ)

642
Posted by: kurtz at February 24, 2016 03:22 AM (Jz2Lw)


My bad, I thought you were being serious. Apologies. Carry on.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 03:23 AM (UnJ7w)

643 kurtz is a moby, I guarantee it.

Could very well be David Brock personally himself.

Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2016 03:23 AM (jBuUi)

644 That's weird, Trump told Dana Bash he was going to give illegals special status to come back into the country and do jobs Americans don't want to do. I'm sure your brain won't process that though.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 03:16 AM (UnJ7w)


As long as he deports them or makes them leave is all that is important. If they then go through legal channels to come back then that is okay. What is important is that people have to be invited to come here and stay. I would personally rather see illegals held accountable and never allowed to return (there are more than enough other people who want to come that we can choose from) but it is not a deal-breaker to me to force them to go through legal procedures in their home countries.

I can guarantee you that 20 or 30 million are not going to be allowed right back in. What is important is that there is law governing entries and that interior enforcement is serious. Nothing is as important as interior enforcement. So long as that is carried out I am satisfied.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 03:24 AM (zc3Db)

645 "Just wait until Jan. 21, 2017 when they show President Trump the
extraterrestrials imprisoned under Area 51. He'll emerge ashen-faced and
will be a compliant little whipped puppy thenceforth."

I rather think the next President will be ashen-faced upon having a look at the actual condition of the national accounts.

Remember how fast things went to shit in 2008. Still plenty of time for a massive financial crisis before Election Day. And plenty of evidence accumulating that we are in for one.

Except this time, there are no bullets left in the gun to try to fix things with interest rate policy and federal stimulus.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 24, 2016 03:24 AM (noWW6)

646 Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2016 03:19 AM (jBuUi)

All the hot chicks were being used as honey-pot spies during the USSR's time. Any Westerner who had or knew something important certainly met quite a few smoking hot Eastern European and Soviet chicks.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 03:26 AM (zc3Db)

647 If you were not a Trump supporter before, you better prepare to be one now. Sorry, I did not write that script.

The two-party system in American politics makes you generally hold your nose and vote for one, or hold your nose and vote for the other, or stay home. Sorry, I didn't write that script, either.

Barring SMOD and even more chaos and astonishment parachuting into things now, Donald J. Trump, of all people, is in the driver's seat for the GOP nomination. How in the hell that happened historians can decide, but we have an electric exploding carrot who has turned up behind the wheel.

Sure on paper the other guys might do something. They have had half a year to solve Donald J. Trump, who ought to have been easy pickings one would think. If they could not have solved that problem now, why would they in two weeks? With Donald standing there mocking them and daring them?

The day is coming soon when you will be either on the Trump Train or the Socialism Express or in self-exile.

And that's where we are going. Maybe the day to make that decision isn't here yet, but odds are it will arrive at your doorstep soon. So be prepared.

Posted by: Cowboy at February 24, 2016 03:22 AM (0VO5Q)


I've voted 3rd party for President, and I'm willing to do so (or vote "None of these candidates") before, and will happily do so again.

Posted by: The Votin' Hat at February 24, 2016 03:27 AM (vBeA5)

648 I hope you don't expect me to think your self-exile is a virtue, The Votin' Hat.

Posted by: Cowboy at February 24, 2016 03:28 AM (0VO5Q)

649 "If you were not a Trump supporter before, you better prepare to be one now. Sorry, I did not write that script."

Blah, blah, blah. Speak for yourself. Not everyone is going to vote for that tacky ass two bit carnival barker. I'd rather see Hillary win and watch you obnoxious fools weep and gnash your teeth. All the sudden voting against the Establishment means supporting a flip flopping life long Democrat. Yeah, no thanks Cowboy.


Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 03:29 AM (UnJ7w)

650 Self-exile it is. Integrity intact.

Posted by: Post-American at February 24, 2016 03:29 AM (Y8P5w)

651 Donald j trump the peoples choice! ayn randists sociopaths are through! Take your free trade and shove it!

Posted by: kurtz at February 24, 2016 03:30 AM (Jz2Lw)

652 This Cowboy character talks purty. And makes his points.


Cowboy - please don't be a stranger here. Some detached perspective with substance dresses up the place.


Posted by: rhomboid at February 24, 2016 03:30 AM (QDnY+)

653 Attractive young people showed up in places like Moscow after the end of communism because of several factors, one of which being the effective collapse of the Soviet-era "internal passport" residency system.

Whereas when that system had been up and working, attractive young people in Vladivostok... stayed firmly marooned in Vladivostok. There's a reason why Kerouac wrote _On The Road_ in the USA and not the USSR.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 24, 2016 03:32 AM (noWW6)

654 Self-exile is your right and privilege. But that's all that can be said about it. It is void of virtue.

Posted by: Cowboy at February 24, 2016 03:32 AM (0VO5Q)

655 Canada turd crud now won't win texas! Maybe he can win canada.

Posted by: kurtz at February 24, 2016 03:32 AM (Jz2Lw)

656 586 Threads like this one are a big part of why I love this place.

Carry on.
Posted by: Piercello
---------------
Sadly, threads like this are a big part of why I sometimes hate this place.

G'night.

Posted by: Chi at February 24, 2016 03:32 AM (oJOym)

657 Sadly, threads like this are a big part of why I sometimes hate this place.

G'night.
Posted by: Chi at February 24, 2016 03:32 AM (oJOym)

****

Good Night!

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 03:34 AM (YLidQ)

658 I hope you don't expect me to think your self-exile is a virtue, The Votin' Hat.

Posted by: Cowboy at February 24, 2016 03:28 AM (0VO5Q)


Why vote for a lying Leftist instead of another lying Leftist who is at least honest about being a Leftist?

Posted by: The Votin' Hat at February 24, 2016 03:34 AM (vBeA5)

659 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 03:24 AM (zc3Db)

Here's Trumps answer to Dana Bash on CNN:

"I Would get people out and then have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal...A lot of these people are helping us...and sometimes it's jobs a citizen of the United States doesn't want to do. I want to move 'em out, and we're going to move 'em back in and let them be legal.".

That is special legal status for illegals, defacto amnesty.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 03:34 AM (UnJ7w)

660 That is special legal status for illegals, defacto amnesty.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 03:34 AM (UnJ7w)

*****

They have to leave first. Right?

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 03:36 AM (YLidQ)

661 I'm not going to argue you off your self-righteous island, The Votin' Hat. You can have your self-exile. All I can do is to ask you to reconsider and come back to embrace civic life.

Posted by: Cowboy at February 24, 2016 03:37 AM (0VO5Q)

662 They have to leave first. Right?
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 03:36 AM (YLidQ)

What does it matter if he's bringing them back for amnesty? What the fuck?

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 03:37 AM (UnJ7w)

663 torque, no doubt partly true. But some can attest that the talent post-1991 was to be found in the far corners of the former Onion. Batumi. South Ossetia. And, yes, Vladivostok (and Khabarovsk).


Birobidzhan, however, seemed bleak in all respects.


And kudos on your land-mine thing earlier. Lots to say on that but the river flows onward.


Posted by: rhomboid at February 24, 2016 03:37 AM (QDnY+)

664 620
>>>McWhorter is clinging to commonplace speech, while the real
payoff from Sapir-Whorf is in SJW-land. Can you shift the Overton Window
and manipulate the zeitgeist through vocabulary?.....and I would
suggest that it's a powerful influence



oh i see what you're saying. yes i agree with that idea, that the
words that populate a language are a clue to what that culture values
(or hates).



But i don't buy this thing about being able to tell something about
the mind of a spanish speaker due to some aspect like the verb "gustar"
doesn't mean to like, but to be pleased by.





Posted by: ace at February 24, 2016 03:10 AM (dciA+)


I'd argue that it does, but not in a one-for-one sense. It puts that onus of pleasing on the object, and not the observer -- but doesn't rigidly structure perception to the point where observers are entirely passive or have no aesthetic viewpoint.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2016 03:38 AM (EzgxV)

665 What does it matter if he's bringing them back for amnesty? What the fuck?
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 03:37 AM (UnJ7w)

******

Please show me where he is saying everyone who leaves is coming right back. I'll wait right here.

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 03:40 AM (YLidQ)

666 OK, time for a change of pace to spice up this thread.

This article from the NYTimes contains every loathsome variant of progressive lunacy, insufferable pretentiousness, vomit-inducing freakishness, and unwitting hypocrisy, all rolled into one postmodern limousine liberal horror show:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/24/arts/music/a-composer-and-his-wife-creativity-through-kink.html

A sample, in case you've run low on ipecac:

A Composer and His Wife: Creativity Through Kink

"The OkCupid message Mollena Williams received in December 2013 was, in some ways, standard. It was complimentary: “Wow — your profile is great.” It was confident: “I am an artist, very successful (probably member of the top 10 or 20 in my genre in the world).” It was polite, signing off with “warm wishes.”

But something was a bit out of the ordinary, speaking to its author’s interest in domination and submission. The central desire? “I would like to tame you.”

The writer was Georg Friedrich Haas, whose powerfully emotional, politically charged music and explorations of microtonality make him one of the world’s leading composers.

...

The Austrian-born Mr. Haas, 62, a music professor at Columbia University since 2013, has recently been increasingly open about the unusual nature of his marriage, which he says has dramatically improved his productivity and reshaped his artistic outlook. He will be the subject of a two-concert American Immersion series on Wednesday and Friday presented by the Austrian Cultural Forum, which includes the American premiere of his “I can’t breathe,” a dirgelike solo trumpet memorial to Eric Garner.

In a joint appearance with his wife, who now goes by Mollena Williams-Haas, late last year at the Playground sexuality conference in Toronto, then in an interview this month in the online music magazine VAN, he has “come out,” as he put it, as the dominant figure in a dominant-submissive power dynamic. Mr. Haas has chosen to speak up, both because Ms. Williams-Haas’s sexual interests are widely known (her blog, The Perverted Negress, is not shy about kink and bondage)...

...

While the terms they negotiated at the start of their relationship do not prevent her from pursuing her own professional and personal life, Ms. Williams-Haas devotes much of her time to supporting the work of a man — “Herr Meister,” she has nicknamed him — for whom a “good day” is one in which he composes for 14 or 15 hours.

“She makes my life as comfortable as possible,” Mr. Haas said.

Ms. Williams-Haas, who described the situation as feminist because it is her choice, said, “I find intense fulfillment in being able to serve in this way.”

She conceded the discomfort many may feel with a black woman willingly submitting to a white man. “It’s a struggle to say, ‘This is genuinely who I am,’” she said. But she added, “To say I can’t play my personal psychodrama out just because I’m black, that’s racist.”"

Etc. etc.

New York values, indeed.

Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2016 03:40 AM (jBuUi)

667 Hello?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 24, 2016 03:40 AM (EzgxV)

668 Heh. The perfect comment #666. The sickening evil of urban leftism.

Posted by: zombie at February 24, 2016 03:41 AM (jBuUi)

669 That is special legal status for illegals, defacto amnesty.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 03:34 AM (UnJ7w)


Yes, that is true amnesty (and then some), unlike those who wish to ignore law and just legalize illegals, here, which is not amnesty but aiding and abetting and giving aid and comfort to an invasion.

As I wrote, my main concern is interior enforcement. For me, there is nothing without serious interior enforcement and that means that illegals must leave - deported or running away themselves. That is my big issue.

I am against the amnesty given to illegals to return but that is not a deal-breaker issue for me. So long as they are forced to leave and entries are controlled then I am satisfied.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 03:41 AM (zc3Db)

670 Trump voters, realize what your creating

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2016 03:42 AM (fizMZ)

671 And we thought liberals were whiny....

Posted by: Meremortal at February 24, 2016 03:42 AM (3myMJ)

672 Anyone with any mathematical sense plus basic financial sense, upon looking at the publicly available data for our national accounts, should be ashen faced.

After the Crash of '08 and the response thereto, I did just that, and was ashen faced. It ain't been getting any better since then.

And that's why I'm where I am today. This train we're on is heading off the cliff. It's time for some radical maneuvers and even then we may be past the point of no return, the event horizon.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at February 24, 2016 03:42 AM (dvuhZ)

673 Please show me where he is saying everyone who leaves is coming right back. I'll wait right here.
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 24, 2016 03:40 AM (YLidQ)


"I Would get people out and then have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal.."

Why am I even doing this for you? You're going to act like it's in greek or he meant something else. Smfh.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 03:42 AM (UnJ7w)

674 Circa '93 talent was lacking at semipalatinsk, must have hopped a train.

Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2016 03:45 AM (cXiMR)

675 I'm not going to argue you off your self-righteous island, The Votin' Hat. You can have your self-exile. All I can do is to ask you to reconsider and come back to embrace civic life.

Posted by: Cowboy at February 24, 2016 03:37 AM (0VO5Q)


I am voting.

I just think that both Hillary and Trump are going to be aweful and that they are both Leftists.

I'll probably vote for Heck, a Republicn, for US Senate in Nevada.

Posted by: The Votin' Hat at February 24, 2016 03:47 AM (vBeA5)

676 So long as they are forced to leave and entries are controlled then I am satisfied.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 03:41 AM (zc3Db)

You guys are literally Goal Post Shifting just to justify supporting this schizophrenic buffoon. What about the godammn Wall? And kicking muslims out and rounding up border jumpers? What's the point of deporting people if your going to give them amnesty anyway? All this hard talk and bluster about Trump standing up and talking about immigration when his position is the EXACT SAME thing as Mario's position. This cult following of Trump is fucking insanity my friend.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 03:48 AM (UnJ7w)

677 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at February 24, 2016 03:42 AM (dvuhZ)

We have very slim chances of escaping the monetary cage we have built for ourselves. The numbers are truly horrific and the pain involved in unwinding positions (which the Fed kept testifying they could do easily without upsetting anything - which was the biggest raft of shit I've ever heard testified to) will be something to behold. But, we do have one very slim chance ... and that is to reduce government expenditures and grow out of it. That is the only way. With Barky's stagnating policies that was known to be impossible, but the thin sliver of hope still exists ... though I'd put the chances of doing it at less than 2%.

Growth is the only way out ... if that way still exists.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 03:49 AM (zc3Db)

678 Trump voters did not create Trump.

20 years of 'conservative action" in Congress and the Presidency did.

Time to deal with it?





Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 03:49 AM (WVsWD)

679 Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 03:48 AM (UnJ7w)

My position has never changed. Go search for "interior enforcement" on this site and you'll find tons of my comments saying what I just said to you. I never cared about the wall. I only care about serious interior enforcement.

But you just want to scream and spit all over the place, so ... continue.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 03:51 AM (zc3Db)

680 Rubio back into second place, Cruz running out of precincts.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 24, 2016 03:52 AM (3myMJ)

681 "Trump voters, realize what your creating

Posted by: Skip"

I'd prefer Cruz, or Perry, or ...; but apparently they all suck. So if its going to be Mussolini, I can shine the shit out of my shoes.

There are two gate points left: Super Tuesday and the end of March. Either Cruz or Rubio figure Trump out or its Trump vs a Communist. My vote doesn't come until later, and I won't toss cash until after its clear who the nominee is.

Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2016 03:52 AM (cXiMR)

682 "20 years of 'conservative action" in Congress and the Presidency did."


Bullshit. 20 years of 'Establishment action' in Congress and the Presidency did. The last conservative we had was Ronald Reagan. Btw, who says immolation is the appropriate way to 'deal with it'. Go ahead light your head on fire.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 03:53 AM (UnJ7w)

683 I guess the quote marks were lost on you.

Have a good morning.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 03:55 AM (WVsWD)

684 "20 years of 'conservative action" in Congress and the Presidency did."


Bullshit. 20 years of 'Establishment action' in Congress and the Presidency did.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 03:53 AM (UnJ7w)


Uh ... that's why he put 'conservative action' in euphemism quotes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 03:55 AM (zc3Db)

685 But you just want to scream and spit all over the place, so ... continue.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 03:51 AM (zc3Db)

Screaming and spitting? I'm just pointing out the absolute hypocrisy of this whole thing. What good is "Interior enforcement" if you are going to let people back in? It makes no rational sense. We're enforcing our borders by granting amnesty to law breakers? Gimme a break. But whatever, I respect your position, I just don't understand it.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 03:58 AM (UnJ7w)

686 Btw, who says immolation is the appropriate way to 'deal with it'. Go ahead light your head on fire.

Its the internet, our options are limited.

Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2016 03:59 AM (cXiMR)

687 Its the internet, our options are limited.
Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2016 03:59 AM (cXiMR)

I always admired the French option.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 04:00 AM (UnJ7w)

688 Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 03:58 AM (UnJ7w)

I told you, I am opposed to that amnesty+ but it is not a deal-breaker for me. I am concerned with interior enforcement and getting illegals out. Trump can't just decide on his own who to bring back in. That is Congress' job. Now, I don't trust Congress but they would have a hell of a time passing a bill to let millions right back in. No way, no how.

Get them out of the country and then we can have a talk about the situation. I would bet the farm that Americans are not going to be very enthusiastic about letting any of them back in once they are out of the country. But, even so, TO ME (maybe not to you or others, but to me) the most important thing is getting them out and having serious interior enforcement. That is the first step to reintroducing a respect for our national sovereignty.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 04:04 AM (zc3Db)

689 At this point I'm hoping the Trump-Cruz pact has something in it for me. Hopefully, Cruz to the SCOTUS if he tosses his cookies to Trump on 1 APR.

Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2016 04:05 AM (cXiMR)

690 Good morning to the horde here as well

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2016 04:07 AM (fizMZ)

691 Since Trump has zero chance in the general, if sanity doesn't prevail by March 1st or so, we'll spend the next four years wondering why the GOP 1) gave a free pass to Hillary or Bernie and 2) gave away the SCOTUS.

Too depressing to watch. Wake me up in March, or never.

Posted by: TallDave at February 24, 2016 04:08 AM (74ZYB)

692 Nypost front page, photo of Trump. Caption. "Big Swinging Dixie"

Posted by: ThunderB at February 24, 2016 04:13 AM (zOTsN)

693 Won't it be a hoot if Trump turns out to be good at the job?

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2016 04:14 AM (e3bId)

694 Posted by: TallDave at February 24, 2016 04:08 AM (74ZYB)

I could except your premise if it were the fault of the GOPe. This Trump golem is is the disaffected base's creation. There's going to be no one to blame but ourselves.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 04:15 AM (UnJ7w)

695 "Won't it be a hoot if Trump turns out to be good at the job?"
-Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2016 04:14 AM (e3bId)

It would also be a hoot if the Cleveland Browns won the Super Bowl.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T), at February 24, 2016 04:18 AM (OQ9R7)

696 G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T), at February 24, 2016 04:19 AM (OQ9R7)

697 Zero chance in the general? What kind of kos kid kool aid are you drinking?

Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2016 04:20 AM (cXiMR)

698 696 well now some things really aren't possible.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2016 04:23 AM (e3bId)

699 "Since Trump has zero chance in the general..."

really?

from what i can see in my ultra blue part of Lost Angels, #Failifornia, he has a chance at winning the state, or at least making a fight for it, unlike any other R candidate you can name.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 04:25 AM (1MFjL)

700 What kind of kos kid kool aid are you drinking?
Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2016 04:20 AM (cXiMR)

Trumps negatives are int the stratosphere. There's a difference between 35-40%of the republican base in a republican primary and voters in the general election.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 04:25 AM (UnJ7w)

701 All this "Trump has zero chance in the general, so you might as well not vote for him".

That's a Baghdad Bob type bullshit attempt to create a self fulfilling prophecy. As ace said in a post a few weeks ago, don't let others bluff you into thinking that you are an ignoramous who should automatically bow down before their superior wisdom. The primary test as regards electability should be your own well considered judgment.

Posted by: angela urkel at February 24, 2016 04:26 AM (IDHFk)

702 And at the end of the day, what's he going to do... make things worse?

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2016 04:27 AM (e3bId)

703 interesting words from Pat Buchanan...

buchanan.org/blog/nationalism-and-populism-propel-trump-124860

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 04:31 AM (1MFjL)

704 negatives, you're getting all melancholy over negatives! Its all about turnout, Trump drives interest and turnout. The Dims have zero enthusiasm and no turnout; any R stands a good chance without the Obama turnout bump.

Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2016 04:31 AM (cXiMR)

705 I'm trying not to believe but there are states which the "Democrat" candidate is going to win. California can try to get out of that category but it won't. Trump has a lot of negatives, many polls have him loosing to the should be federal prisoner. I'm thinking that's why leftist news is channeling to Trump in reality to push Hillary.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2016 04:34 AM (fizMZ)

706 BTW: i would swear i've run into "hollowpoint" before here on the intarwebz...

is he a regular, or just a typecast character, interchangeable with numeri others?

maybe he just reminds me of the ash and trash from various Usenet haunts from the days of yore?


Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 04:34 AM (1MFjL)

707 The Counting is 93.9% done. Total votes is over 72K

Only 40K was predicted.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 04:37 AM (WVsWD)

708 Mornin'.

I believe I shall have a great big glass of Arson Wells' tears for breakfast.

Mmmmm...yummy!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 24, 2016 04:38 AM (HMt16)

709 *unstatic*

"Hollowpoint" had been a poster for as far as I can remember, but I've only been here for three years.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T), at February 24, 2016 04:39 AM (OQ9R7)

710 *static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T), at February 24, 2016 04:39 AM (OQ9R7)

711 Hollowpoint is an old time used to be regular. Know as an ultra rino.

He plays the blame game very well. Last time around, IIRC, it was the SoCons who tanked Mitt.

Not Mitt himself.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 04:40 AM (WVsWD)

712 #706: all i've got is anecdotal evidence, but everywhere i go here in deep blue Lost Angels, people bring up Trump, or speak favorable of him...

the young Armenian guys smoking dope in the BMW next to me at the stop light last fryday afternoon? "i'm in real estate, i want him to win..."

the black lady behind the counter at the post office? "he's what we need..."

the guy behind the counter at my favorite barrio taco house? "i like him..."

the list is endless, across the spectrum of race, age, income, etc...

the only people i know who are aghast at the idea are the hard core lefties that would send Stalin to the Gulag for insufficient zeal... one of them told me they would emigrate to Costa Rica if he wins.

i'll help her pack.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 04:43 AM (1MFjL)

713 Hollowpoint was also a long time regular commenter at hotair. I believe hollowpoint's a she. At least, that's what I remember ... but don't hold me to that.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 04:44 AM (zc3Db)

714 yeah, i meant to type "intermittent regular", but it's late, i'm tired, and disgustingly s*ber...

knew i'd seen that act before though.

and it hasn't improved with time...some wines don't age well, they just stay sour.

must be the grapes... ;-)

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 04:45 AM (1MFjL)

715 Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 04:43 AM (1MFjL)

I'm in blue state NY and I'm hearing Trump! everywhere. Young black guys at the gym, old Italian guys at the barber shop, the women at the office. I was in traffic court last week (me and my damn lead foot) and while we all waited for the courtroom doors to open, I listened in on a Dem couple talking about how they were switching to Trump, and several others nearby chimed in with the same. It's everywhere I go.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 24, 2016 04:47 AM (HMt16)

716 " I believe hollowpoint's a she. At least, that's what I remember ... but don't hold me to that."

regardless of gender, real or preferred, it's clear they could use a Premarin prescription.


Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 04:47 AM (1MFjL)

717 Well if the numbers look like overwhelming Republican turnout should be a good sign.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2016 04:48 AM (fizMZ)

718 regardless of gender, real or preferred, it's clear they could use a Premarin prescription.


Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 04:47 AM (1MFjL)


LOL.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 04:49 AM (zc3Db)

719 i also see way more Bernie stickers around town than i do Shrillery.

in fact, her's are rare enough to attract my attention, whereas the Free Shit Army are everywhere

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 04:50 AM (1MFjL)

720 I'm having trouble finding the actual number of votes for the donktard caucus but it's looking like total votes for the R's is more that double.

Total votes for Trump look like more than shillary and bernfeel combined.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 04:51 AM (WVsWD)

721 The problem with Trump, even if he wins, is that he'll go Left and the GOP will be blamed for it.

A bigger problem is that people will vote for Trump, and then turn around and vote Dems all the way down the ballot.

His presidency will be Hoover on PCP.

Posted by: The Votin' Hat at February 24, 2016 04:53 AM (vBeA5)

722 #718: in the pharmacy world, they, and other oral meds like them, are sometimes, if sensitive ears are not about, referred to as "ABP's", even by female staffers.

(Anti-Bitch Pills)

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 04:53 AM (1MFjL)

723 One thing you can bet your house on. Come the actual election Trump will drive record turnout. For the Dems.

Posted by: ByebyeCruz at February 24, 2016 04:54 AM (VPfwu)

724 I won losers.

Deal with it.

I will be crowned king in Cleveland. You watch.

Posted by: Marco the Rube at February 24, 2016 04:55 AM (2bqlb)

725 Donald Trump: 'We won with highly-educated, we won with poorly educated! I love the poorly educated! We're the smartest people, we're the most loyal people!'.

The fucking jokes write themselves with this man.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 04:55 AM (UnJ7w)

726 #721: our other option is to nominate someone who can't possibly win, then watch someone farther to the left of Trump start out worse than him, then accelerate from there.

with Trump there is a small chance.

all the other options are worse, at least as things stand now.


Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 04:56 AM (1MFjL)

727 "The problem with Trump, even if he wins, is that he'll go Left and the GOP will be blamed for it"

Maybe the GOP should have starting thinking about the possibility, say, 20 or so years ago? You know when screwing over their base became SOP?

If the powers that be in the GOP want someone to blame.

Mirror.

Look into.

No assembly or thought required.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 04:57 AM (WVsWD)

728 Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 04:57 AM (WVsWD)

'Hey, I have an idea! Let's smear feces all over our faces! They've screwed us over for 20 years. That'll show 'em!'

Why you people continue to make this asinine argument is beyond me.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 05:00 AM (UnJ7w)

729 Trump just said "no one read the Bible more than I do."

Dems must be beside themselves with joy at the 7-2 court in their future.

Posted by: TallDave at February 24, 2016 05:01 AM (74ZYB)

730 Trump will get Dims to the polls, to vote for Trump.

Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2016 05:02 AM (cXiMR)

731 "One thing you can bet your house on. Come the actual election Trump will drive record turnout. For the Dems."

why?

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 05:02 AM (1MFjL)

732 "Why you people continue to make this asinine argument is beyond me."

I have do doubt as to the Truth of this statement.

Have a good morning.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 05:03 AM (WVsWD)

733 Dems must be beside themselves with joy at the 7-2 court in their future.
Posted by: TallDave at February 24, 2016 05:01 AM (74ZYB)

Imagine being the democrats and realizing the unbelievable good fortune they've received. Must feel awesome.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 05:03 AM (UnJ7w)

734 730 Trump will get Dims to the polls, to vote for Trump.
Posted by: Jean


Denial. Not just a river in Egypt.

Posted by: ByebyeCruz at February 24, 2016 05:04 AM (VPfwu)

735 "Why you people continue to make this asinine argument is beyond me."

because we live in the faint hope that someone might finally listen and comprehend, instead of the grade school routine plugging the ears and shouting "i can't hear you" that is the hallmark of the GOPe?

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 05:06 AM (1MFjL)

736 i've got to go out and buy a Powerball ticket this week.

if i win, i'm going to buy Hotair, and restore their old comment system.

i'm sure the rest of the horde would keep me in Val-u-Rite and hobo jerky all of my remaining days in gratitude for such a gesture.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 05:09 AM (1MFjL)

737 Who are some of the names being thrown around for VP?

Posted by: Hanoverfist at February 24, 2016 05:10 AM (3FBAK)

738 It looks like the Democrat numbers are in Nevada
Hildabeast - 6,316
Old Bolshavik - 5,678

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2016 05:11 AM (fizMZ)

739 News Flash!

Trump still leading in Nevada.

Film @ 11.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 05:11 AM (1MFjL)

740 "Who are some of the names being thrown around for VP?"

Yo Mama is in the lead...

;-)

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 05:12 AM (1MFjL)

741 Skip,


I think those are the County Delegate numbers. Not the raw number of votes.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 05:12 AM (WVsWD)

742 Doh!

Posted by: Hanoverfist at February 24, 2016 05:13 AM (3FBAK)

743 anyone up for a gun thread OT diversion?


Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 05:13 AM (1MFjL)

744 Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 05:11 AM (1MFjL)

Well, by God, keep rubbing shit on your face if it makes you feel better!

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 05:13 AM (UnJ7w)

745 I'm not buying Democrat voters when the choice is between Trump and HRH Clinton will pick Trump, Leftists vote lock step in the best way to push their agenda. It's only the wishy-washy voters who claim their "independent " your trying to get.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2016 05:15 AM (fizMZ)

746 "Who are some of the names being thrown around for VP?"


Does it matter? Trump could pick his nose or his wedgie for VP and people would love it.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 05:15 AM (UnJ7w)

747 "Well, by God, keep rubbing shit on your face if it makes you feel better!"

and you keep up the learned, rational and diplomatic discourse that elucidates, communicates and encourages others to examine, test and accept your POV, rather than the position they previously held, or to make a choice where they previously were undecided.

let me know how that w*rks for you...

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 05:18 AM (1MFjL)

748 It looks like totals for state, looked up CBS news Democrat caucus numbers and total for a particular County are much smaller.
20 dedicates Hildabeast
15 for Bernie
35 awarded to whole state.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2016 05:19 AM (fizMZ)

749 Would love to chat but I gotta go
Will check back this afternoon to see where I got left off.
Have a great day

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2016 05:22 AM (fizMZ)

750 Skip,

those were the County Delegates going to the State convention.

Not the raw number of votes.

http://graphics.latimes.com/election-2016-nevada-results/

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 05:23 AM (WVsWD)

751 let me know how that w*rks for you...
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 05:18 AM (1MFjL)

You think I'm trying to change minds? LOL. I just like watching people twist themselves into a pretzel trying to justify irrational arguments. I did this same thing with Obama supporters and it was the same thing. Different ends of the ideological spectrum but at the end of the day the same justifications, same emotional arguments.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 05:23 AM (UnJ7w)

752 "You think I'm trying to change minds? LOL. I just like watching people twist themselves into a pretzel trying to justify irrational arguments."

In other words, he is trolling. Why feed him?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 05:24 AM (WVsWD)

753 746 "Who are some of the names being thrown around for VP?"

"Does it matter? Trump could pick his nose or his wedgie for VP and people would love it."
Posted by: Arson Wells

He could pick Jesus as his VP and he'd still be completely unelectable at a national election.

Posted by: ByebyeCruz at February 24, 2016 05:29 AM (VPfwu)

754 Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 05:24 AM (WVsWD)

So, I don't support Trump and question people on his flip flops and positions. I point out inconsistencies and it makes me a troll? On the other hand you thump your chest and brag about your candidate and that's peachy?

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 05:30 AM (UnJ7w)

755 #751: proof that mocking w*rks on trolls...

Gawd how i miss Usenet. such a result used to take some effort: these days the fish jump into the frying pan.

i blame the public school system.


Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 05:30 AM (1MFjL)

756 I did this same thing with Obama supporters and it was the same thing.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 05:23 AM (UnJ7w)


So you used to hang out at sites with Barky supporters? Can't say that I'm surprised. I think I hear them calling you.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 05:32 AM (zc3Db)

757 Since Trump has zero chance in the general, if sanity doesn't prevail by March 1st or so, we'll spend the next four years wondering why the GOP 1) gave a free pass to Hillary or Bernie and 2) gave away the SCOTUS.

1. The GOP didn't give it away. They're getting their asses kicked by a clown.
2. I asked the same question when a Stupid party majority Senate approved Ruth bader ginsberg.



Trump isn't the problem; he's a symptom.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2016 05:33 AM (326rv)

758 743 anyone up for a gun thread OT diversion?

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 05:13 AM (1MFjL
------------------
Sure! What kind of shootin' do you do?

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2016 05:34 AM (e3bId)

759 There has only been one time in the decades of voting that I have done where the VP pick influenced my vote. That was when McShitty picked Sara Palin. And then his aides and consultants turned around and crapped on her every chance they got.


And why did picking Sara Palin influence my vote enough to make me go stand in line in the rain to vote for an isle crossing RINO backstabber? Because I figured he would be a one term asshole and then she could move in as a genuine conservative and not a backstabbing SOB.


And I also have a lot more stuff on this caucus for the EMT links.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 05:37 AM (t2KH5)

760 So you used to hang out at sites with Barky supporters? Can't say that I'm surprised. I think I hear them calling you.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 05:32 AM (zc3Db)

There were some subreddits i used to frequent. Invariably the conversation would devolve to adulation over Obama, this was right after his first election. Needless to say I stopped going. This whole Trump thing is giving me flashbacks of that though. Which explains my vehement feelings over the guy. Trump himself is alright, I just can't stand the whole hope and change aura some of his supporters put out.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 05:37 AM (UnJ7w)

761 Trump isn't the problem; he's a symptom.

which is what this link says, that i poasted above.

buchanan.org/blog/nationalism-and-populism-propel-trump-124860

the GOPe sowed the whirlwind, and is now unhappy that their shit (to borrow "hollowpoint's" term) is sticking to their face.

sucks to be you, but i'm not to blame for your actions or the results thereof.

that's Conservative 101.

you should have paid attention in class.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 05:37 AM (1MFjL)

762 "On the other hand you thump your chest and brag about your candidate and that's peachy? "

Excuse me? Where did I thump my chest or brag?

Yes. You are trolling. No doubt in my mind about. You design your comments with the intent on getting an emotional reaction.

Why else would you state this?

"I just like watching people twist themselves into a pretzel trying to justify irrational arguments."

Not only are you a troll but you get enjoyment from it. That you may think of yourself as a Conservative is of no matter to me. You are still a troll.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 05:40 AM (WVsWD)

763 the GOPe sowed the whirlwind, and is now unhappy that their shit (to borrow "hollowpoint's" term) is sticking to their face.

sucks to be you, but i'm not to blame for your actions or the results thereof.

that's Conservative 101.

you should have paid attention in class.
Posted by: redc1c4

How fucked up is the stupid Party?


A: It's so fucked up, the best chance we have of the Stupid party doing its job and not sucking off JEF are the quotes from Delaware's own Joe Biden from 1992. That's how fucked up they are.

"The GOP is letting Trump happen"? Bullshit. Far too many people don't trust anything they say any more, for good reasons (Jeb!, Rubio, katshitt)

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2016 05:41 AM (326rv)

764 Good Morning Vic!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 05:41 AM (WVsWD)

765 you should have paid attention in class.
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 05:37 AM (1MFjL)

I pictured you putting on sunglasses in the dark and dramatically flipping your hand down and tapping the enter key when I read that.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 24, 2016 05:42 AM (UnJ7w)

766 And BTW, I would say based on how Trump is slaughtering the opposition he has a damn good chance in the general, especially with the criminals and communists the Dems are running.


And I say that while NOT being a big Trump fan.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 05:42 AM (t2KH5)

767 Good morning Tim. Just finished putting together 7 pages of links and eating breakfast. Thunderstorm rolling through though.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 05:44 AM (t2KH5)

768 And BTW, I would say based on how Trump is slaughtering the opposition he has a damn good chance in the general, especially with the criminals and communists the Dems are running.


I dunno. I can't begin to determine whether he has a chance, whether he's even serious or still a stalking horse for Hillary, or what he would you if actually elected.

I do know that the pack of electable losers we've been saddled with weren't nearly up to their press releases and that the GOP doesn't seem to have the slightest interest in changing.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2016 05:47 AM (326rv)

769 Sure! What kind of shootin' do you do?

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2016 05:34 AM (e3bId)

---
mostly the kind that goes bang. (former 11B/19D) ;-)
we have two large ring Mauser actions that need to be build out into rifles. seen here: http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/dumoulin-mauser-action.aspx

they obviously need to be built out, but to what? unique actions suggest a unique caliber to myself and Resident Evil, but which ones? t

your thoughts are welcome. you can add "@drunkenbastards.org" to my nick to e-mail me directly.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 05:47 AM (1MFjL)

770 "The GOP is letting Trump happen"? Bullshit. Far too
many people don't trust anything they say any more, for good reasons
(Jeb!, Rubio, katshitt)

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2016 05:41 AM (326rv)

No they did not let him happen, they MADE him (and Cruz) happen.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 05:48 AM (t2KH5)

771 7 pages of links?

Hope I can stay awake long enough to read em.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 05:50 AM (WVsWD)

772 768 I do know that the pack of electable losers we've
been saddled with weren't nearly up to their press releases and that the
GOP doesn't seem to have the slightest interest in changing.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2016 05:47 AM (326rv)

Yeah, all those losers were the "electable moderates" that the RNCe kept foisting off on the base via the most screwed up primary schedule and rules you could event. The base just is not buying it anymore.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 05:50 AM (t2KH5)

773 At this point it looks pretty inevitable. Trump it will be.

Hillary will outfox the old commie and disillusion the younger voters. She still has a mountain of legal troubles to navigate. Old Biden is waiting in the wings, perhaps with the DOJ on speed dial.

Interesting times.

Posted by: mega machines at February 24, 2016 05:51 AM (fbovC)

774 771 Hope I can stay awake long enough to read em.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 05:50 AM (WVsWD)

Of course that assumes we get an EMT.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 05:51 AM (t2KH5)

775 Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 05:47 AM (1MFjL)

Unique? Go big....most of the smaller ones are taken.

Posted by: BignJames at February 24, 2016 05:52 AM (x9c8r)

776 773 Hillary will outfox the old commie and disillusion
the younger voters. She still has a mountain of legal troubles to
navigate. Old Biden is waiting in the wings, perhaps with the DOJ on
speed dial.



Interesting times.

Posted by: mega machines at February 24, 2016 05:51 AM (fbovC)

She doesn't have to outfox him. The DNC has paid off all those super delegates that they have and they are all going to Scankles. Despite her being an unindicted felon they are scared to death of a Sanders win because they know most of the Dems will either vote 3rd party or sit at home.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 05:53 AM (t2KH5)

777 "I pictured you putting on sunglasses in the dark and dramatically
flipping your hand down and tapping the enter key when I read that."

you put way too much efforts into you fantasies...


Posted by: redc1c4 at February 24, 2016 05:56 AM (1MFjL)

778 769 I do quite a bit of competitive shooting (F-Class) in 6.5mm, have you considered 260 Remington?

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2016 05:58 AM (e3bId)

779 Will those super delegates stay bought?

They can change their mind at anytime. Just anecdotal but the only two bernie supporters I know, say they won't vote for skankles. Ever.

FWIW

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 05:58 AM (WVsWD)

780 On the VP pick, would a Trump-Rubio ticket be a deal killer for anyone?

Posted by: Valiant at February 24, 2016 05:59 AM (2bqlb)

781 780
On the VP pick, would a Trump-Rubio ticket be a deal killer for anyone?


Posted by: Valiant at February 24, 2016 05:59 AM (2bqlb)


Fuck Rubio in particular!

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 24, 2016 06:00 AM (J+mig)

782 Fuck Rubio in particular!

Exactly.

Posted by: Valiant at February 24, 2016 06:01 AM (2bqlb)

783 rubes just needs to fade away and get that k-street lobbyist job. Drown his sorrows in hunnert dollar bills.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 06:02 AM (WVsWD)

784 Sorry to be the source of so much discord.

Posted by: Marco Rubyoko Ono at February 24, 2016 06:03 AM (IDHFk)

785 Will those super delegates stay bought?

They can change their mind at anytime. Just anecdotal but the only two bernie supporters I know, say they won't vote for skankles. Ever.

FWIW
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah

That's one thing that makes me wonder.

Obama's vote total definitely went down between 2008 and 2012. Romney was off by less than a million votes between several states.

Hillary supposedly isn't going to generate the turnout that Jef got.

between that and bernie possibly sparking a protest vote/stay home reaction, could we see a change?

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2016 06:04 AM (326rv)

786 I had to go listen to Chelsey (no not that one) the Bernie supporter...crying her eyes out over the "less than a brick wall" southerners she was phone-banking for Bernie. Gota hear her sweet sweet tiers, it will make your day.

Posted by: Paladin at February 24, 2016 06:05 AM (uE89M)

787 779
Will those super delegates stay bought?



They can change their mind at anytime. Just anecdotal but the only
two bernie supporters I know, say they won't vote for skankles. Ever.



FWIW

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 05:58 AM (WVsWD)

Super Delegate are normally party bigwigs, so yeah, if the DNC buys them they are likely to stay bought. But in the end, there is not law that says ANY delegate has to vote for the person he was chosen for, and that includes in the general.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 06:06 AM (t2KH5)

788 780
On the VP pick, would a Trump-Rubio ticket be a deal killer for anyone?


Posted by: Valiant at February 24, 2016 05:59 AM (2bqlb)

My deals have already been killed.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 06:07 AM (t2KH5)

789 could we see a change?

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2016 06:04 AM (326rv)

I'm thinking that change is going to happen. Vote totals show that R's are getting out to vote and donks are not.

It was the other way last two times around.

No matter what you think about Trump or Cruz both are giving their supporters someone to vote for.

I find that change refreshing.



Getting sick of voting against.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 06:08 AM (WVsWD)

790 Has anyone seen Nip Sip around lately? I haven't. He didn't get himself banned again did he?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 06:10 AM (WVsWD)

791 Trump and Rubio? No way. He'll shiv Trump in a heartbeat.

Posted by: mega machines at February 24, 2016 06:12 AM (fbovC)

792 790
Has anyone seen Nip Sip around lately? I haven't. He didn't get himself banned again did he?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 06:10 AM (WVsWD)

I don't recall seeing him in quite a while.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 06:14 AM (t2KH5)

793 LOL, I just gave the cats a furry toy that I put in a jar of cat nip and shook up. They are going crazy.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 06:15 AM (t2KH5)

794 Trump and Rubio?

Hmmm. Rubio doesn't seem to have been very effective in DC. he got either badly played or was simply too brazenly stupid to openly side with dems on the gang of 8 shit sandwich.

I don't see what Trump would get for the investment, other than Rubio might look better to people in the general election than the primaries.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2016 06:17 AM (326rv)

795 793 our little dog likes catnip as much as the kitties do.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2016 06:17 AM (e3bId)

796 Vic,

Did anyone drop out?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 06:18 AM (WVsWD)

797 794
Trump and Rubio?



Hmmm. Rubio doesn't seem to have been very effective in DC. he got
either badly played or was simply too brazenly stupid to openly side
with dems on the gang of 8 shit sandwich.



I don't see what Trump would get for the investment, other than
Rubio might look better to people in the general election than the
primaries.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2016 06:17 AM (326rv)

The word on Rubio from that ICE guy is that he is a lying, backstabbing, SOB. And that is most likely the same from everyone else up there in DC that knows him.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 06:19 AM (t2KH5)

798 796
Vic,



Did anyone drop out?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 06:18 AM (WVsWD)

Not from NV that I saw. In fact, I have a link to an article that quotes Carson as saying he is in for the count. No intention of dropping out.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 06:20 AM (t2KH5)

799 Guys seriously. It's time to circle the wagon around the nominee. If we are seriously wanting to keep a Hillary or Bernie out of the WH then at the latest, after Super Tuesday we need to come together.

PS; If one happens to be an Obama voter by default via staying home, no need to respond, You shouldn't have a seat at the table.

Posted by: Drider at February 24, 2016 06:22 AM (6Xbsz)

800 The word on Rubio from that ICE guy is that he is a lying, backstabbing, SOB. And that is most likely the same from everyone else up there in DC that knows him.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party

And he's still in his first term as a Senator? That's a good trick.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2016 06:23 AM (326rv)

801 No matter what you think about Trump or Cruz both are giving their supporters someone to vote for.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 06:08 AM (WVsWD)

Well, the Democrats helped too.

Voting for a candidate you like and at the same time voting against a candidate that you dislike intensely is a powerful combination.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 24, 2016 06:23 AM (Zu3d9)

802 And he's still in his first term as a Senator? That's a good trick.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2016 06:23 AM (326rv)

Finally!! A repub over achiever.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 06:24 AM (WVsWD)

803 800 And he's still in his first term as a Senator? That's a good trick.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2016 06:23 AM (326rv)

That was all based on his actions in trying to ram that gang of 8 BS through.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 06:25 AM (t2KH5)

804 With 100% reported, Delegate count from GOP #NVcaucus is:

Trump 14
Rubio 7
Cruz 6
Carson 2
Kasich 1

If Carson and Kasich drop out, GOP #NVcaucus delegate count would be:

Trump 15
Rubio 8
Cruz 7

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 24, 2016 06:26 AM (vBeA5)

805 89
Glenn Beck reminds me of Ernest T Bass.

Posted by: ALH at February 24, 2016 12:30 AM

Oh God that is funny. Now Beck needs to go back to the woods.

Posted by: Lester at February 24, 2016 06:26 AM (2UPXV)

806 No intention of dropping out.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 06:20 AM (t2KH5)

His right I suppose. Who though would want to give him money?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 24, 2016 06:27 AM (WVsWD)

807 Even though Rubio narrowly came in second, Cruz is the only candidate besides Trump to win any counties.

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 24, 2016 06:28 AM (vBeA5)

808 Fox is showing 12/5/5 for the top three candidate in delegates.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 06:28 AM (t2KH5)

809 His right I suppose. Who though would want to give him money?Posted by: Tim in Illinois


(Carson) He's just on a book selling/signing tour now. Nothing wrong with that, hope he sells millions.

Posted by: mega machines at February 24, 2016 06:31 AM (fbovC)

810 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2016 06:36 AM (ptqRm)

811 Cokie Roberts said on Morning Mika that the LEGAL immigrants where where she gets her hair done were terrified of Donald Trump getting the Republican nomination. And she made sure to stress LEGAL!

Posted by: Hadoop at February 24, 2016 06:36 AM (2X7pN)

812 Am I gonna get willowed?

Posted by: Hadoop at February 24, 2016 06:39 AM (2X7pN)

813 Even Cruz, in 3rd place, got more votes than Shrillary and the old commie combined.

"Uncommitted" got 1/700 the votes of the old commie on the dem side but 1/4 the delegates. Pretty friggin awesome!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 06:39 AM (zc3Db)

814 Cokie Roberts said on Morning Mika that the LEGAL immigrants where where she gets her hair done were terrified of Donald Trump getting the Republican nomination. And she made sure to stress LEGAL!
Posted by: Hadoop

Did they have their hands up?

Were they breathing?

Were they gentle giants?

Were they dreaming?

Were they able to /not able to purchase a gun?

Were they able to appoint a supreme court justice?

(Just trying to keep track of all of the screaming fits we're supposed to care about)

Why does 'legal' mean anything to anyone with a dream?

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2016 06:40 AM (326rv)

815 Cokie Roberts said on Morning Mika that the LEGAL immigrants where where she gets her hair done were terrified of Donald Trump getting the Republican nomination. And she made sure to stress LEGAL!Posted by: Hadoop


Legal immigrants don't have any love for illegal immigrants. They stood in line, learned the language, took the test. Passed the test. Probably know more about our legal system than the average American high school graduate.

Nobody likes people who butt in line.

Posted by: mega machines at February 24, 2016 06:40 AM (fbovC)

816 811
Cokie Roberts said on Morning Mika that the LEGAL immigrants where where
she gets her hair done were terrified of Donald Trump getting the
Republican nomination. And she made sure to stress LEGAL!


Posted by: Hadoop at February 24, 2016 06:36 AM (2X7pN)

And I am sure she is honest as the day is long

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 06:42 AM (t2KH5)

817 "Passed the test. Probably know more about our legal system than the average American high school graduate. "

Hell, Little VIA consistently knows more about our legal system, and the Constitution then his High School teachers do.

Pisses them right off on a regular basis.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2016 06:42 AM (ptqRm)

818

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 24, 2016 06:45 AM (HSmrB)

819 Can anyone spot the "Oh Shit" buried in this article about illegal gun running in Baltimore, a Sanctuary City?

http://cbsloc.al/20U4Mvu

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2016 06:45 AM (ptqRm)

820 Also, I believe I read this morning thay Trump took the hispanic vote. Entrance poll. Article at BB

Posted by: mega machines at February 24, 2016 06:46 AM (fbovC)

821 820
Also, I believe I read this morning thay Trump took the hispanic vote. Entrance poll. Article at BB



Posted by: mega machines at February 24, 2016 06:46 AM (fbovC)


I have a link for tat for the EMT, but I don't remember if it came from BB or somebody else.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 06:47 AM (t2KH5)

822 Can anyone spot the "Oh Shit" buried in this article about illegal gun running in Baltimore, a Sanctuary City?

http://cbsloc.al/20U4Mvu

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2016 06:45 AM (ptqRm)


LOL. Interesting that they did away with the popular MSM/leftist euphemism for him.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 06:48 AM (zc3Db)

823 MSNBC is the only network discussing last night's caucus. The others are ignoring what happened in Nevada.
Wake up and smell the coffee. Donald is winning big. He is succeeding where Republicans have failed for decades.
Is he a real Conservative? No, he's not. And he's not my first, second or third pick.
He is the first pick of a majority of voters in 3 out of 4 primaries, hard to ignore his success.

Posted by: ALH at February 24, 2016 06:51 AM (Z56vq)

824 According to CNN entrance polls in Nevada, 57% said they are "angry."

61% of caucus-goers say they want the next President to be from outside the political establishment.


Back with the 'angry' meme.











Posted by: mega machines at February 24, 2016 06:53 AM (fbovC)

825 DT is putting the ugly back in ugly American. And that's a good thing. Bite me world.

Posted by: f'd at February 24, 2016 06:54 AM (BO/km)

826 According to CNN entrance polls in Nevada, 57% said they are "angry."

61% of caucus-goers say they want the next President to be from outside the political establishment.


Pish posh. Shut up and obey.

Posted by: The Stupid Party at February 24, 2016 06:54 AM (326rv)

827 Looks like Andy is not here again today. Ace, if you are still here throw up just a thread for the EMT and I'll populate the links.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:02 AM (t2KH5)

828 I'd bet my bottom dollar CNN asked the education level of Trump voters, but isn't reporting the results.

Posted by: mega machines at February 24, 2016 07:02 AM (fbovC)

829 Trump got 40 percent of the Hispanic vote

Posted by: ThunderB at February 24, 2016 07:04 AM (zOTsN)

830 Is he a real Conservative? No, he's not. And he's not my first, second or third pick.
He is the first pick of a majority of voters in 3 out of 4 primaries, hard to ignore his success.
Posted by: ALH at February 24, 2016 06:51 AM (Z56vq)


What difference, at this point, does it make? What difference does anything make at this point?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 24, 2016 07:05 AM (IDHFk)

831 "Trump got 40 percent of the Hispanic vote"

Please tell me that this is true.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2016 07:05 AM (ptqRm)

832 I'll put this link up here for now:

How pets can help relieve depression:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/k9poobh

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2016 07:06 AM (w4NZ8)

833 Trump got 40 percent of the Hispanic vote
Posted by: ThunderB

What did W get? What did JEF get?

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2016 07:06 AM (326rv)

834
Donald Trump: 'We won with highly-educated, we won with poorly educated! I love the poorly educated! We're the smartest people, we're the most loyal people!'.


The fucking jokes write themselves with this man.



Yes. Pity he can't be an articulate, clean-cut, gentlemanly loser like Mitt Romney.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 24, 2016 07:06 AM (X6fMO)

835 831 Please tell me that this is true.





Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2016 07:05 AM (ptqRm)\
I have a link for the EMT if we get one.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:07 AM (t2KH5)

836 Yes. Pity he can't be an articulate, clean-cut, gentlemanly loser like Mitt Romney.

Did I mention that I hate the CBF? As if that matters to anything this country is facing? Other than pandering to groups that hate my guts and who would never vote for me in a million years?

Posted by: Mitt at February 24, 2016 07:09 AM (326rv)

837 i heard the hotel and restaurant workers were voting. can't anything be done about that?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 24, 2016 07:10 AM (WTSFk)

838 Most likely, the LEGAL immigrants Cokie was referring to are well educated professionals, who like herself, fear any Republican from getting into the WH. I just found it interesting that she felt the need to "inform" the d!p$h!t$ that watch MSDNC on a regular basis about her salon buddies feelings about DT.

Posted by: Hadoop at February 24, 2016 07:10 AM (2X7pN)

839 And in a Flying Pig moment, Maryland's Republican Governor seems to be doing a good job.

http://tinyurl.com/hawsa8c

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2016 07:11 AM (ptqRm)

840 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2016 06:45 AM (ptqRm)


Awesome. And I like this exchange....[Hellgren is the reporter]

"We had a couple crime scenes in 2015 that we recovered 83 shell casings," said Commissioner Davis.

Hellgren: "What would someone want with a fully automatic machine gun?"

Comm. Davis: "You want to kill. Those firearms are designed to kill."


83 shell casings is, according to this journalism major, evidence of a machine gun. And not just any machine gun. It's a fully automatic one!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 24, 2016 07:11 AM (Zu3d9)

841 Most likely, the LEGAL immigrants Cokie was referring to are well educated professionals, who like herself, fear any Republican from getting into the WH. I just found it interesting that she felt the need to "inform" the d!p$h!t$ that watch MSDNC on a regular basis about her salon buddies feelings about DT.
Posted by: Hadoop

I talk to peasants!!! I'm a hard hitting journolist.......named corkie.

Posted by: Corkie brings the news at February 24, 2016 07:12 AM (326rv)

842 Local Fox affiliate is reporting that Trump took the Latino vote. I can't find where I found the numbers this morning.

Considering Cruz and Rubio could be considered Latino that's huge.

Posted by: mega machines at February 24, 2016 07:13 AM (fbovC)

843 If I am a legal Hispanic immigrant, this flood is screwing up my school, my neighborhood, and they are taking jobs from me

Posted by: ThunderB at February 24, 2016 07:14 AM (zOTsN)

844 83 shell casings is, according to this journalism
major, evidence of a machine gun. And not just any machine gun. It's a
fully automatic one!


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


With a silencer on it.

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2016 07:14 AM (8ikIW)

845 Trump got 40 percent of the Hispanic vote
Posted by: ThunderB

What did W get? What did JEF get?
Posted by: Blue Hen at February 24, 2016 07:06 AM (326rv)


...of the Republican Hispanic vote. Not of the overall Hispanic vote.

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 24, 2016 07:14 AM (vBeA5)

846 If Trump got 40% of the hispanic vote with the primary platform of 'build a wall,' that kind of puts a nail in the coffin of hispandering, doesn't it?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 24, 2016 07:16 AM (oVJmc)

847 Looks like no EMT so I will load 'm up here.


Good Morning Morons. Today is Wednesday, February 24, 2016. On this day in 1917 U.S. ambassador to the United Kingdom, Walter Hines Page, was given the Zimmermann Telegram. This telegram was instrumental in getting the US into WWI. The telegram read as follows:


We intend to begin on the first of February unrestricted submarine warfare. We shall endeavor in spite of this to keep the United States of America neutral. In the event of this not succeeding, we make Mexico a proposal of alliance on the following basis: make war together, make peace together, generous financial support and an understanding on our part that Mexico is to reconquer the lost territory in Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona. The settlement in detail is left to you. You will inform the President of the above most secretly as soon as the outbreak of war with the United States of America is certain and add the suggestion that he should, on his own initiative, invite Japan to immediate adherence and at the same time mediate between Japan and ourselves. Please call the President's attention to the fact that the ruthless employment of our submarines now offers the prospect of compelling England in a few months to make peace. Signed, ZIMMERMANN


Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:16 AM (t2KH5)

848 Trump win actual results were a Trump runaway and Cruz broke away from Rube by a fair margin. But note that Cruz and Rube got the same number of delegates and you can be sure the three super delegates will go to Rube.


http://tinyurl.com/htffsfu

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:16 AM (t2KH5)

849 FLAMING SKULL


A federal court ruled on Tuesday that a watchdog group could request testimony from Hillary Clinton's State Department aides in connection with her private email server, a decision that could eventually lead to a subpoena for Hillary Clinton.


The $64K question (how many Morons remember where that came from) is will the aids rat her out? Also, they will be questioned under oath and their last name is not Clinton so they will not be able to skate on perjury.


http://tinyurl.com/zforgxh

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:17 AM (t2KH5)

850 Cokie Roberts is the very definition of WASP. She has a lot to overcome.

Posted by: ALH at February 24, 2016 07:17 AM (Z56vq)

851 When you compare the number of people that voted, many more came out to vote for all of the republican candidates than Hillary and Bernie. Hispanics historically have a very low voter turnout. I don't see the passion for Hillary or Bernie from them, based on turn out

Posted by: ThunderB at February 24, 2016 07:17 AM (zOTsN)

852
...of the Republican Hispanic vote. Not of the overall Hispanic vote.


True. Good point.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 24, 2016 07:17 AM (oVJmc)

853 China continues its military buildup on that contested island by deploying fighters along with the already deployed surface to air missiles. Another great foreign policy win for the choom. He gets away with murder domestically because the Republican Party is a limp noodle and likewise the rest of the world is getting away with murder because on the world stage he is a limp noodle.


http://tinyurl.com/grclo2f

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:17 AM (t2KH5)

854 Recall that MS woman who was burned to death. Well they have indicted the suspect. He is also involved with the deaths of two other women. And incredibly, the woman had been dating this ogre. If any case qualifies for the needle this one does and MS does have the death penalty.


http://tinyurl.com/jdasfr5

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:17 AM (t2KH5)

855 In case you missed it yesterday:


Key Republican senators vowed Tuesday not to vote or even hold a hearing on any Supreme Court nominee by President Obama to fill the seat of the late Justice Antonin Scalia, a move likely to put the replacement process in a holding pattern, for now.


Actually it is likely to hold it up until the next President is in office, which has been the tradition for a long time in this kind of event. Even RINO Lindsey Graham said no vote. Of course the WH says this is unprecedented but everyone knows they are pathological liars. The real question is will the RNCe hold out or will they cave and make a deal for another handful of beans.


http://tinyurl.com/jg928dz

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:17 AM (t2KH5)

856 This has to be an old case. Four people have been indicted for violation of Iran sanctions. The government says that the items in question are still prohibited even under current eased rules. This will be a muddy case thanks to Obama and a weak-kneed spineless Republican Party.


http://tinyurl.com/j66cvud

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:18 AM (t2KH5)

857 Has to be a Moron even if it is in Britain. A man has changed his name to bacon double cheeseburger. Which will generate all kinds of jokes.


http://tinyurl.com/zg26pwz

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:18 AM (t2KH5)

858 You Morons in the South be on the watch for severe storms and tornadoes, There have already been deaths and injuries as the storms move through, I am getting thunder here already. And if it gets worse I will have to shutdown.


http://tinyurl.com/hqlm6ts

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:18 AM (t2KH5)

859 Fox details why Obama's GITMO closure plant and transfer of terrorist to the US is crap that endangers local communities, including me. Evidently the spineless Republicans snuck a provision in the 2016 Defense Authorization bill that allowed Obama to do this. Sold out again and it was not reported by anyone.


http://tinyurl.com/hwshysq

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:18 AM (t2KH5)

860 Recall that child pornography case in MD I linked a couple of weeks ago. Well it is getting bigger. The defendant actually participated in the sex acts so it is now more than just filming children, it is also rape. How can monsters like this be allowed as "volunteers" in school? Do we need a national conversation about allowing monsters to rape children in school? Will the parents of these children sue the parents of this monster for making a monster?


http://tinyurl.com/zkajjhe

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:19 AM (t2KH5)

861 BLM thugs at it again in Chicago.


http://tinyurl.com/jenpx9r

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:19 AM (t2KH5)

862 No this is not me. A Camden, SC cop has been arrested after he was caught choking the chicken to porn on his cell phone while he was sitting in his patrol car. Unlike Northern jurisdictions though he has already been fired.


http://tinyurl.com/gwe9p3z

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:19 AM (t2KH5)

863 Recall I said I did not like caucuses because there was too much room for mischief. Well, evidently there was a lot of mischief at that NV caucus.


http://tinyurl.com/josoqhb

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:19 AM (t2KH5)

864 83 shell casings is, according to this journalism major, evidence of a machine gun. And not just any machine gun. It's a fully automatic one!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 24, 2016 07:11 AM (Zu3d9)

I saw that. My first thought was the convenience of leaving out the numbers of people involved.

My second was how shitty an aim the shooter must have had if he fired all the rounds and how stupid the person he was shooting at was for not just walking up to Mr. Magoo and flicking him between the eyes before he got lucky.

But of course, the inference is the gun here can shoot 83 bullets in mere seconds.



Also all firearms are designed to kill. It takes work to make them less-than-lethal as the Police force likes to claim as even plastic bullets and beanbag guns can kill at close range.

Posted by: Bete resigned to just watching the world burn at February 24, 2016 07:20 AM (Ojki1)

865 John Kasich on Tuesday told supporters he's not sure whether his purpose is to win the White House.


Well John, I would say no it isn't. You haven't got a snowball's chance in Hell so drop out because you are just wasting money.


http://tinyurl.com/z2wutt9

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:20 AM (t2KH5)

866 Another hit piece on Trump. A five year old civil suit accusing him of fraud. More than likely this is all BS but evidently he will have to go in and testify soon. But his opponents are really making hay with it.


http://tinyurl.com/zopxqcc

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:20 AM (t2KH5)

867 We had some rough weather the past couple of days. Trees are falling on houses and people are getting hurt.

Posted by: ALH at February 24, 2016 07:20 AM (Z56vq)

868 After the judge ruled against Scankles the VRW conspiracy excuse has been deployed. No mention that the judge was appointed by her husband.


http://tinyurl.com/hgju44r

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:20 AM (t2KH5)

869 If Trump got 40% of the hispanic vote with the primary platform of 'build a wall,' that kind of puts a nail in the coffin of hispandering, doesn't it?Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel


Our 'betters' in the GOP establishment will never give up that bone. They'll lose election after election and still cling tenaciously to that fallacy.

Posted by: mega machines at February 24, 2016 07:20 AM (fbovC)

870 A House committee is asking DHS how they can lose 165 guns and 1300 badges in three years. I'll tell you how Mr House; because they are more concerned with quotas in hiring and social justice. In addition, there is little oversight and zero accountability. To date nobody has been fired for any of this crap.


http://tinyurl.com/jdqszkp

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:21 AM (t2KH5)

871 "On the VP pick, would a Trump-Rubio ticket be a deal killer for anyone?"

Dondi. Then both parties get together, impeach Trump and viola! Borders open!

Posted by: dANmAN at February 24, 2016 07:21 AM (P+oMO)

872 Here's what Obama plans to bring into the US for a Federal judge to eventually turn lose.


http://tinyurl.com/zcfb4ru

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:21 AM (t2KH5)

873 Scankles is desperate to make sure she gets that black vote.


http://tinyurl.com/jjvweu4

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:21 AM (t2KH5)

874
Confused elderly man tells his supporters he is rich in delegates.


http://tinyurl.com/gwtg6nr

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:21 AM (t2KH5)

875 Black female instructor in MD chastises a white male for "mansplaining", the new hate crime.

http://tinyurl.com/h9ryqzj

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:21 AM (t2KH5)

876 How bad was it for the Rube in NV? Trump got more Hispanic votes than he did.


http://tinyurl.com/hlzl2eo

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:22 AM (t2KH5)

877
Carson vows to stay in the race despite dismal showing in NV and all the other primaries as well as dismal poll numbers. I like you Ben but all you are doing is muddying the waters and wasting money.


http://tinyurl.com/h6ddh8b

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:22 AM (t2KH5)

878
This is what Obama is calling to the WH and praising:


Black Lives Matter co-founder Marissa Jenae Johnson said the phrase "all lives matter" is a "new racial slur", in a recent interview with Fox News national correspondent John Roberts


And you can add to that "and white people got to give up something". Well honey, I have been giving up a large portion of my paycheck for most of my life so that thugs like you can sit on their ass at home when not out in the street buying drugs.


http://tinyurl.com/h7e9z9b

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:22 AM (t2KH5)

879 Heritage excoriates Obama's shitty plan for GITMO.


http://tinyurl.com/hr7qwgo

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:23 AM (t2KH5)

880 Local Fox affiliate is reporting that Trump took the Latino vote. I can't find where I found the numbers this morning.

Considering Cruz and Rubio could be considered Latino that's huge.
Posted by: mega machines at February 24, 2016 07:13 AM (fbovC)

No Cruz and Rubio aren't true Hispanics. Well, until we can claim Republicans voted for Trump rather than them because racists.

But until then, they are actually race-traitors.

Posted by: MSM at February 24, 2016 07:23 AM (Ojki1)

881 The West Coast is not the only place where the Gaystapo is terrorizing Christians. A couple who give marriages at their NY farm declined to perform a same sex marriage and were sued under NY's BS laws. After years of fighting at huge costs (fined $13,000 not counting legal costs) they have decided to throw in the towel. But I found this little tidbit very interesting.


At the time of the refusal, Cynthia Gifford did not know that phone call was being recorded.


So to me that shows two things. Number 1 this was a hit job from the very beginning as we have surmised all along for these cases. The gays were preplanning a suit and came pre-prepared to gather evidence.



And number 2; the State supports them in this kind of lawfare. Recording a telephone call w/o informing everyone on the call of the recording is a violation of State and Federal law yet not a single charge has been filed. Recall the people who filmed the PP interviews were actually charged and indicted and that was not a phone call.


http://tinyurl.com/h62g8t7

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:23 AM (t2KH5)

882
Ramirez


http://tinyurl.com/hzmbm3o

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:23 AM (t2KH5)

883 The Daily Deals


http://tinyurl.com/gsptlm8


That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:24 AM (t2KH5)

884 An older story, but still a good one-"A father's Love and heroism"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hv6l9u3

I would like to thank the 'ettte that recommended this site last night. I'm having a memory lapse on who that was-artisanal? Some nice things there

Sorry.


Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2016 07:24 AM (w4NZ8)

885 Recall I said I did not like caucuses because there was too much room for mischief. Well, evidently there was a lot of mischief at that NV caucus.

http://tinyurl.com/josoqhb

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:19 AM (t2KH5)


I was at the caucus in Sumerlin. I was a precienct chair. A bit chaotic at the begining, but after the initial rush it ran smoothly.

See my post at 188 in this thread for my take on the caucus. Overall it was an enjoyable experience.

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 24, 2016 07:25 AM (vBeA5)

886 >>>>A federal court ruled on Tuesday that a watchdog group could request
testimony from Hillary Clinton's State Department aides in connection
with her private email server, a decision that could eventually lead to a
subpoena for Hillary Clinton.


The $64K question (how
many Morons remember where that came from) is will the aids rat her out?
Also, they will be questioned under oath and their last name is not
Clinton so they will not be able to skate on perjury.
.
.
.
.Those hearings won't last long at all. I mean how long does it take for their lawyer to invoke their 5th amendment rights right after they take the oath?

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 24, 2016 07:26 AM (iONHu)

887 The $64K question (how many Morons remember where that came from) is will the aids rat her out? Also, they will be questioned under oath and their last name is not Clinton so they will not be able to skate on perjury.


http://tinyurl.com/zforgxh


Pfft, not as long as they fear me.

Posted by: Fort Marcy Park at February 24, 2016 07:26 AM (Ojki1)

888
"On the VP pick, would a Trump-Rubio ticket be a deal killer for anyone?"


It would be for me. I don't want that sleazy prick anywhere near power. I'd rather he ends up sitting at the end of the bar at Dick's Last Resort in a ratty Hawaiian shirt and stained Tommy Bahama pants, trying to coax a free drink from the bartender and offering to show the local cuties his caucuses.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 24, 2016 07:27 AM (X6fMO)

889 "Recording a telephone call w/o informing everyone on the call of the recording is a violation of State and Federal law..."

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:23 AM (t2KH5)

Wrong.

NY (and others) is a one-party consent state. Only one side of the conversation has to give consent to be recorded.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 24, 2016 07:27 AM (Zu3d9)

890 The Clintons have been a scourge on politics going on 25 years now...

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 24, 2016 07:30 AM (iQIUe)

891 MP4 sez: I'd rather he ends up sitting at the end of the bar at Dick's Last
Resort in a ratty Hawaiian shirt and stained Tommy Bahama pants, trying
to coax a free drink from the bartender and offering to show the local
cuties his caucuses.


You may get your wish. Teh Roob seemed a bit miffed last night. Couldn't even thank the (few) people who voted for him. That's what you call "class," right there.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 24, 2016 07:31 AM (D+xyy)

892 >>>And number 2; the State supports them in this kind of lawfare. Recording
a telephone call w/o informing everyone on the call of the recording is
a violation of State and Federal law yet not a single charge has been
filed. Recall the people who filmed the PP interviews were actually
charged and indicted and that was not a phone call.
.
.
.
.It depends on what State you are in, not all States have the same laws. Here in Kentucky only one party has to be aware of the recording under the eavesdropping Statute.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 24, 2016 07:35 AM (iONHu)

893 Students reserve tickets so that veterans can see baseball for free:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hv83kmg

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2016 07:35 AM (w4NZ8)

894 889 NY (and others) is a one-party consent state. Only one side of the conversation has to give consent to be recorded.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 24, 2016 07:27 AM (Zu3d9)

If NY allows recording a phone call w/o informing the other side then they are the only one I have ever heard of.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:35 AM (t2KH5)

895 Besides that it is also a violation of federal law so it doesn't matter how screwed up NY is.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:36 AM (t2KH5)

896 If NY allows recording a phone call w/o informing the other side then they are the only one I have ever heard of.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:35 AM (t2KH5)


Last time I looked WI allowed it as well.

Posted by: Bete resigned to just watching the world burn at February 24, 2016 07:36 AM (Ojki1)

897 Black female instructor in MD chastises a white male for "mansplaining", the new hate crime.




Whose bitch this is?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 24, 2016 07:37 AM (JWzxO)

898 Local story...
Dude shoots up heroin on a public bus. OD's. Police revive. Addict back on street.

I mean what the hell does that say about what this country has become?

Posted by: mega machines at February 24, 2016 07:37 AM (fbovC)

899 Texas only one party has to be aware of the eavesdropping

Posted by: ThunderB at February 24, 2016 07:38 AM (zOTsN)

900 Still it is a violation of the electronic privacy act.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:39 AM (t2KH5)

901 If NY allows recording a phone call w/o informing the other side then they are the only one I have ever heard of.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:35 AM (t2KH5)


Last time I looked WI allowed it as well.



Texas also. Only one party has to be aware.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 24, 2016 07:40 AM (JWzxO)

902 A mindfulness technique that Christians can use every day:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/h5w3ad5

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2016 07:40 AM (w4NZ8)

903 If NY allows recording a phone call w/o informing the other side then they are the only one I have ever heard of.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:35 AM (t2KH5)

Article from 2010 Wislawjournal - http://bit.ly/1LFMDL4

(or search WisLawJournal Commentary: Laws vary on whether recording is allowed for those who've got an aversion to just trusting links to go where they claim to go)

Posted by: Bete resigned to just watching the world burn at February 24, 2016 07:40 AM (Ojki1)

904 Still it is a violation of the electronic privacy act. Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:39 AM

How quaint.

Vic, what is this "privacy" thing you speak of? And Congress passed an "act" about it?

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 24, 2016 07:43 AM (D+xyy)

905 Hell, the damn feds are recording everybody anyway.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at February 24, 2016 07:43 AM (I0sxh)

906 So this is the morning thread?

Great... 5-8 inches of globull warmening outside today... I have tree limbs falling from the heavy, wet stuff.

At least the skool kiddies will not be on the roads today. So I got that going for me. Which is nice.

Oh, and Mario Rufio can go suck a chihuahua.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 24, 2016 07:44 AM (Dj0WE)

907 904 How quaint.

Vic, what is this "privacy" thing you speak of? And Congress passed an "act" about it?


Posted by: MrScribbler at February 24, 2016 07:43 AM (D+xyy)

Oh congress was real keen on this one. Especially after somebody recorded Newt on his cell phone and put it out to the public.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:45 AM (t2KH5)

908 Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:35 AM (t2KH5)

Well, you need to go back to law school, because most states are one-party consent. I think only about 10 states require both parties to consent.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 24, 2016 07:46 AM (Zu3d9)

909 906
So this is the morning thread?



Great... 5-8 inches of globull warmening outside today... I have tree limbs falling from the heavy, wet stuff.



At least the skool kiddies will not be on the roads today. So I got that going for me. Which is nice.



Oh, and Mario Rufio can go suck a chihuahua.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 24, 2016 07:44 AM (Dj0WE)

Be glad you don't have what we have. They are closing the schools here today at noon because of approaching storms and tornadoes. I don't know what good that will do because nobody around here has tornado shelters.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:46 AM (t2KH5)

910 If NY allows recording a phone call w/o informing the other side then they are the only one I have ever heard of.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:35 AM (t2KH5)

Last time I looked WI allowed it as well.

Texas also. Only one party has to be aware.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 24, 2016 07:40 AM (JWzxO)


I thought Missouri did too, but I'm not a lawfin, nor do I play one on teh internetz.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 24, 2016 07:47 AM (Dj0WE)

911 Thehinky thing about the Planned Parenthood case is that in the past the courts have ruled that when you are out in a public space, you have no expectation of privacy.

Posted by: Darth Randall at February 24, 2016 07:47 AM (KlVdw)

912 Both my home state and this state require consent, I think CA does too.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:47 AM (t2KH5)

913 BUT STILL regardless of what the State says it is a violation of federal law.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:48 AM (t2KH5)

914 This morning's snow has flattened all my bamboo.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 24, 2016 07:49 AM (oVJmc)

915 IIRC SC is a one party recording state, OTOH lawyers must notify all parties

Posted by: Tmitsss at February 24, 2016 07:49 AM (Pa9vP)

916 Oh congress was real keen on this one. Especially after somebody recorded Newt on his cell phone and put it out to the public. Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:45 AM

Yes, we can depend on Congress to jump into action whenever they think their Special Status is being threatened in any way.

Imagine how they'd react if someone had monitored calls between Choom Boy and Reggie!

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 24, 2016 07:49 AM (D+xyy)

917 Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:48 AM (t2KH5)

Wrong again. Federal law is one-party consent.

Quit while you're behind.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 24, 2016 07:50 AM (Zu3d9)

918 Oh congress was real keen on this one. Especially after somebody recorded Newt on his cell phone and put it out to the public.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:45 AM (t2KH5)

If I'm reading things right (and I wouldn't bet those odds that I am), it looks like as long as one of the parties in the call/conversation is the recording party it is all good in some states.

Newt's wouldn't count as it was a third party taping him IIRC, but if the call was made from WI and the person talking to Newt taped it it might be OK? Not sure if the law covers which state originated the call or just if the recording party is in a state it is permitted in.

Posted by: Bete resigned to just watching the world burn at February 24, 2016 07:50 AM (Ojki1)

919 I guess you guys really don't care if the Gaystapo actually set that suit up ahead of time do you?

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:51 AM (t2KH5)

920 IIRC SC is a one party recording state, OTOH lawyers must notify all parties
Posted by: Tmitsss at February 24, 2016 07:49 AM (Pa9vP)


It would be nice if there was a national registry of lawyers, like there is for sex offenders. And if one moves into your neighborhood, he should have to walk door to door, telling all his neighbors he's a lawyer, and he has to keep his porch light off on Halloween and stuff. For the children's sake.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 24, 2016 07:51 AM (Dj0WE)

921 917
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:48 AM (t2KH5)

Wrong again. Federal law is one-party consent.

Quit while you're behind.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 24, 2016 07:50 AM (Zu3d9)

BS go read the law. The guy that recorded Newt was prosecuted.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:52 AM (t2KH5)

922 Speaking of old commenters, what every happened to the Purple Avenger? I saw him briefly appear on twitter years ago but then he disappeared from there, too.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 24, 2016 07:52 AM (iQIUe)

923 Folks that suggest Trump is because of Obama I don't think have thought it though. Trump is because Boehner and McConnell and McCain and a huge majority of the last decade of R senators and congressmen and even for me GWB with his out of control spending, the Orwellian named Patriot Act, John Roberts, and just in general compassionate conservative asshattery.

Posted by: dogfish at February 24, 2016 07:53 AM (0O2Lr)

924
BS go read the law. The guy that recorded Newt was prosecuted.


He wasn't party to the conversation.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 24, 2016 07:53 AM (oVJmc)

925 Everyone says twitter is bleeding money. But what lefty media doesnt bleed money. Yet, they dont seem to care.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 24, 2016 07:53 AM (iQIUe)

926 This man developed this site after hearing politicians tearing down America. I've linked his main short movie, "My beautiful America" before but you can also scroll down on the site for other movies including one on "My beautiful Dixie":

http://mybeautifulamerica.com

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2016 07:53 AM (w4NZ8)

927 nood

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 24, 2016 07:54 AM (iQIUe)

928 one-party consent.

That's a pretty funny phrase. I understand that this is some sort of legal term but it really abuses the shit out of the word "consent". I guess someone just got a kick out of calling it this.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 07:54 AM (zc3Db)

929 Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 07:52 AM (t2KH5)

Laws regarding federal officials are a little different. And he may have been prosecuted in a state that has two-party consent.

And I have read the law. Don't call BS when you are obviously wrong.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 24, 2016 07:55 AM (Zu3d9)

930 886...Can't take the 5th if they are given immunity from their testimony ... this was an oh shit decision for cankles. Interesting times indeed

Posted by: E.T. at February 24, 2016 07:55 AM (yq4gk)

931 Trump won "very conservatives", moderates, Evangelicals, Latinos, simply across-the-board WIN. Loving this morning's Drudge with a picture of Trump and "THE NOMINEE" beneath. Great article accompanies it too from politico about how Trump won every demographic in sight. Woohoo

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at February 24, 2016 08:01 AM (xetep)

932 Figures, I spent 3.5 hours putting those links together.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 24, 2016 08:05 AM (t2KH5)

933 Re 886
Cannot assert 5th Amendment privileges generally in a civil suit which this is.

Posted by: whig at February 24, 2016 08:08 AM (mlyQI)

934 test#143;

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 24, 2016 08:12 AM (Zu3d9)

935 test#153;

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 24, 2016 08:13 AM (Zu3d9)

936 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 24, 2016 08:13 AM (Zu3d9)

You have to have javascript turned off for the "&" to get through and give you the unicode character.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2016 08:14 AM (zc3Db)

937 "If you encounter God, God will be cut."

- Hattori Hanzo's comment to Trump, before sending him on his way.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 24, 2016 08:15 AM (bpn7O)

938 John Kasich was in GA yesterday. On the way home I heard some remarks he made to the press.

Among other things, he said that he was rising in the polls, that he would win Ohio, and that Cruz and Rubio needed to solidify behind him.

Madness. Utter madness.

This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 24, 2016 08:18 AM (bpn7O)

939 #834

"I LOVE THE POORLY EDUCATED." TRUMP 2016////////
God help us!

Posted by: redridinghood at February 24, 2016 08:33 AM (7GQM/)

940 The Trump Campaign Strategy:

1. Enemies--crush them.
2. Enemies--drive them before me.
3. Da vimmin--hear their lamentations.

Posted by: General Zod at February 24, 2016 08:43 AM (Bdeb0)

941 "On the VP pick, would a Trump-Rubio ticket be a deal killer for anyone?"

As a staunch Trump supporter. That VP pick would be very devastating.

Posted by: Drider at February 24, 2016 09:04 AM (bdzyz)

942 "...of the Republican Hispanic vote. Not of the overall Hispanic vote.

True. Good point."

Rubio only got around 20%
Cruz around 18%

Does that register into any kind of point on or shall we just overlook it for the sake of fooling ourselves?

Posted by: Drider at February 24, 2016 09:13 AM (bdzyz)

943 TRUMP/THE WALL/THE GUN
2016
No more beta males in the White House


and, say 'no' to that anti-american pro-amnesty height-challenged robotic runt named boobio

Posted by: Myshiba at February 24, 2016 09:30 AM (n20xt)

944 If it's Trump vs. Sanders, I'll vote for Trump. Between the two modern religions of "I'm so awesome" capitalism and "force The Man to pay for it" socialism, I'll take the capitalist.

If it's Trump vs. Clinton, I have to decide on whether or not I want to see a President impeached and tried shortly after inauguration.

Still, when Illinois votes on March 15, I won't be marking my ballot for the Donald. I think Republicans can still do better than him.

Posted by: PaperworkNinja at February 24, 2016 09:39 AM (J991N)

945 As a staunch Trump supporter. That VP pick would be very devastating.

Posted by: Drider at February 24, 2016 09:04 AM (bdzyz)
______________________________________
Don't worry...Trump is smarter than that. I think he said that Oprah Winfrey would be a good VP.SMART POWER!!

Posted by: Mimzey at February 24, 2016 09:56 AM (aRUb8)

946 I really wonder what a potus trump will do with an impotent republican party in control of congress and the very effective minority dems? And what will congress do, roll over the way it has for obama?

Posted by: Judith at February 24, 2016 10:27 AM (ZZTp3)

947 Go TRUMP! This makes me very happy.

Posted by: Bonnie Blue at February 24, 2016 11:29 AM (ZXK8H)

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