Krauthammer on Why Obama Is Skipping Scalia's Funeral [CBD]

White House press secretary Josh Earnest said on Thursday that Vice President Biden will attend Antonin Scalia's funeral because his "security footprint is a little bit lighter" than President Obama's.

Well obviously he doesn't care, especially judging by that pathetic and embarrassing reason given by Earnest. But Krauthammer makes the good point that Obama doesn't want to sit in a pew and listen to people singing the praises of a man whose every action in defense of American jurisprudence and American Exceptionalism and the United States Constitution is antithetical to everything Obama believes.

Why the photo? Why not?

Posted by: Open Blogger at 10:42 AM

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1 It's not about him, and he can't make it about him.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 20, 2016 10:43 AM (oVJmc)

2 He is not going because he is a racist SOB and Scalia believed in the Constitution.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 20, 2016 10:43 AM (t2KH5)

3 funerals are boring. golf is more fun. the bear is loose!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 20, 2016 10:43 AM (AkOaV)

4 BTW, as of 10:30 polls in Columbia, SC are reporting a heavy turnout.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 20, 2016 10:44 AM (t2KH5)

5 Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 20, 2016 10:44 AM (t2KH5)

Here is our very own tsrblke's take on the SC primary:

http://tinyurl.com/gucpcmw

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 20, 2016 10:48 AM (Zu3d9)

6 I prefer that Obama not attend. He would make it about himself.

*counts on fingers*

Nine months 'til he's an irrelevant lame duck.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 20, 2016 10:49 AM (1xUj/)

7 Did I just see a comment disappear? Or am I having another annoying "episode"?

Posted by: kraken at February 20, 2016 10:51 AM (sdxPm)

8 I prefer that Obama not attend. He would make it about himself.

Just picture him with his selfie stick.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 20, 2016 10:52 AM (FkBIv)

9 Obama would not be able to contain his glee.

Posted by: Nick in South Bend at February 20, 2016 10:52 AM (a7FXx)

10 Obama?
So this is the doggie thread, then...

Posted by: Chi at February 20, 2016 10:53 AM (z1mje)

11 I think Preznint Shit Midas shows his true hideous inner self here.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at February 20, 2016 10:53 AM (AhyHb)

12 Saw the comment about urinating but it was flushed.

Posted by: scif at February 20, 2016 10:53 AM (t+ssG)

13 Honestly now, who would want that piece of garbage at your own funeral?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Yada, yada, yada.... at February 20, 2016 10:54 AM (WVsWD)

14 12-- Thank God. I'll go on with my self-medicating then.

Posted by: kraken at February 20, 2016 10:55 AM (sdxPm)

15 I'm glad he is not going. He would probably scratch his face with his middle finger.

Posted by: scif at February 20, 2016 10:55 AM (t+ssG)

16 I'm thinking that Trump siding with the FBI (vs Apple) will hurt him in this primary. And help Cruz.
I'm probably wrong though.

Posted by: @votermom at February 20, 2016 10:56 AM (cbfNE)

17 Unfortunately he's going to get his pick.

He's a cunt so he's either going to nominate Kamala Harris or Loretta Lynch.

Because the woman on the court have been prog apparatchiks even Sandra Day Oconner.

This constitutional republic is for all intents and purposes over as it is but once the court swings hard left it's going to go very quickly.

The Marxist 100 year March is complete.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 20, 2016 10:57 AM (EmUe0)

18 The Marxist 100 year March is complete.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 20, 2016 10:57 AM (EmUe0)

Pretty much so. Decision time is almost hear. IMHO.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Yada, yada, yada.... at February 20, 2016 10:58 AM (WVsWD)

19 I think at this point, nothing Trump says will hurt Trump. For good or ill,he's not going away, and the Right will have to face that.

Posted by: kraken at February 20, 2016 10:59 AM (sdxPm)

20 Here not hear.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Yada, yada, yada.... at February 20, 2016 10:59 AM (WVsWD)

21 I hope President Trump/Cruz does an FDR and expands SCOTUS by 2 or 4.

Pen and phone.

Posted by: @votermom at February 20, 2016 10:59 AM (cbfNE)

22 'Lighter security footprint'? There is nobody lighter in their security loafers than our beloved President!

Posted by: t-bird at February 20, 2016 11:01 AM (w/iDp)

23 Is that the thing that goes up?

Posted by: rickl at February 20, 2016 11:01 AM (sdi6R)

24 Obama doesn't want to go anyplace where he can't take a selfie to post on twitter.

Posted by: mallfly at February 20, 2016 11:01 AM (qSIlh)

25 I have a feeling had the San Bernardino shooters been white men, Apple would have lent 100 of their best developers to the FBI to do whatever they needed to do.

But the shooters were Muslims so it's all about privacy and shit.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 20, 2016 11:01 AM (0LHZx)

26 Heh. I just noticed the "breast cream" ad. I've seen y'all mention it numerous times, but haven't seen it for myself until now.

A boob ad on a thread about the world's biggest ever boob. Go figure.

Posted by: Chi at February 20, 2016 11:02 AM (z1mje)

27 Why is this a thing? Who gives a shit?

He don't want to be there. I'm sure Scalia's close family don't want or need him there. He won't be there.

Problem solved.

We know what he is, and his face will never be in the dictionary next to the word "class".

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 20, 2016 11:03 AM (kKHcp)

28 Vice President Biden will attend Antonin Scalia's funeral

What a guy, stand up and take a bow, Tony!

Posted by: Joey B at February 20, 2016 11:04 AM (ZxmMG)

29 16 I'm thinking that Trump siding with the FBI (vs Apple) will hurt him in this primary. And help Cruz.
I'm probably wrong though.
Posted by: @votermom at February 20, 2016 10:56 AM (cbfNE)

Trump is totally wrong about that. I have no idea how it will affect the primary.

He called for a boycott of Apple, right? Fine, whatever. I don't have a problem with boycotts, because they are completely voluntary. I could call for a boycott of red cars, but it doesn't mean anybody has to listen to me.

Posted by: rickl at February 20, 2016 11:06 AM (sdi6R)

30 27 Why is this a thing? Who gives a shit?

_____

Yeah I'm with you. It would be nice if generally speaking we'd stop with this whole sham giving a fuck when your political enemies die thing. He was a right wing guy so the left hated him. Why go to a guy's funeral and pretend you're sad when reality is you're delirious with joy that he's dead? It would be like Cruz going to Ginsburg's funeral when that cunt finally dies. Don't bother.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 20, 2016 11:07 AM (0LHZx)

31 That, and those golf balls just don't hit themselves, mister.

Posted by: Abby Normal at February 20, 2016 11:07 AM (5VZqJ)

32 "Obama doesn't want to sit in a pew and listen to people singing the praises of a man whose every action in defense of American jurisprudence and American Exceptionalism and the United States Constitution is antithetical to everything Obama believes."

It's not like the service would be out of control or anything, either. Can you imagine the reaction if Scala's service ended up looking like Senator Harkin during the Wellstone memorial? It would be epic, but we'd never hear the end of it.

Posted by: Grimaldi at February 20, 2016 11:07 AM (Ycz0Z)

33 That is one nice looking Trapdoor. Cleaned up or new manufacture? To light a stock to be original condition.

Posted by: JTB at February 20, 2016 11:08 AM (FvdPb)

34 8 I prefer that Obama not attend. He would make it about himself.

Just picture him with his selfie stick.
___________________

Or "spontaneously" breaking into song (that he's rehearsed for weeks) like he did at that last funeral he attended -- 'cuz it's always got to be all about the O. Forget the deceased, the headlines should be about how awesome Obama is!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 20, 2016 11:08 AM (df5V4)

35 27 Why is this a thing? Who gives a shit?

He don't want to be there. I'm sure Scalia's close family don't want or need him there. He won't be there.

Problem solved.

We know what he is, and his face will never be in the dictionary next to the word "class".
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 20, 2016 11:03 AM (kKHcp)

Exactly. I wouldn't want the POS at my funeral.

Posted by: rickl at February 20, 2016 11:09 AM (sdi6R)

36 Trump is here to stay in this election cycle, it seems to me. He's having the time of his life, getting tons of attention, saying whatever the hell he wants, on his own dime cause he's waaaay too rich to have to beg and pander in order to buy the microphone time. ( Money don't buy everything, but try and run for preezie without it).

Posted by: kraken at February 20, 2016 11:10 AM (sdxPm)

37 This is actually a good thing, Obama not showing up. If he did, he'd run his mouth the whole time, praising himself, and trolling conservatives, and in general, turning the funeral into a political event.

You know, like what he does with everything.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 20, 2016 11:10 AM (hQq14)

38 I think Obama isn't going because it is a funeral MASS held at a Catholic Cathedral. He isn't going to sit through an actual religious service that 1. isn't Muslim 2. Isn't filled with screaming black preachers who hate America and spew black liberation theology.

He couldn't even sit still for Mandela's funeral , which was practically held in a stadium and had fewer Christian overtones.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 20, 2016 11:10 AM (gOsh1)

39 I'm sure Scalia family could do w/o Biden too. In this past week I read Biden wished he had voted against confirming him because he was so effective.

I'm watching it on CSpan now.

May Antonin Scalia Rest in Peace.

Posted by: Carol at February 20, 2016 11:11 AM (sj3Ax)

40 Link in nik to pic of Obama carrying purported binder of SCOTUS picks. Not a joke, but probably a lie

Posted by: Baldy at February 20, 2016 11:12 AM (1SCTq)

41 That, and those golf balls just don't hit themselves, mister.
Posted by: Abby Normal at February 20, 2016 11:07 AM (5VZqJ)

Trump was asked on Fox this morning what his take was on the president not attending Scalia's funeral.

Trump sneered, "Obama is probably golfing, he has more important things to do."

Posted by: Jen the original at February 20, 2016 11:12 AM (gOsh1)

42 Why is this a thing? Who gives a shit?

He don't want to be there. I'm sure Scalia's close family don't want or need him there. He won't be there.

Problem solved.

We know what he is, and his face will never be in the dictionary next to the word "class".

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 20, 2016 11:03 AM (kKHcp)

It's not about family, it's about protocol. If Obama wants to be something other than President, then he should move his ass out of the White House.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 20, 2016 11:13 AM (TOk1P)

43 As far as things worth bitching about, this doesn't do it for me. I can see the arguments both ways. Who cares. Well, Krauthammer obviously, but who cares about that rhinoceros douche?

Posted by: Rastus at February 20, 2016 11:13 AM (VjlMj)

44 It bothers me that ANY representative from this administration is attending. Fuck protocol. Give the space to people who genuinely morn Scalia.

Posted by: JTB at February 20, 2016 11:13 AM (FvdPb)

45 At least he did put on a tie yesterday and didn't show up in Bermuda shorts.
Nice rifle too.

Posted by: Skip at February 20, 2016 11:14 AM (l+OuH)

46 38 I think Obama isn't going because it is a funeral MASS held at a Catholic Cathedral.
Posted by: Jen the original at February 20, 2016 11:10 AM (gOsh1)

He's afraid he might burst into flames.

Posted by: rickl at February 20, 2016 11:16 AM (sdi6R)

47 Skeletor still hasn't issued a correction:

https://twitter.com/alancolmes/status/701041461551190016

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at February 20, 2016 11:17 AM (t5zYU)

48 It bothers me that ANY representative from this administration is attending. Fuck protocol. Give the space to people who genuinely morn Scalia.
Posted by: JTB at February 20, 2016 11:13 AM (FvdPb)

This.

Posted by: tdpwells at February 20, 2016 11:17 AM (evKax)

49
Obastard ended up making it about himself as much as he could anyway by being the petulant asshole that he is. But yes, Scalia probably would have requested he not be there.

He'll do whatever he can to remain in the limelight after he is out of the WH, but as it fades it wouldn't surprise me to see him hospitalized for depression.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 20, 2016 11:17 AM (ODxAs)

50 It's Biden because Ol' Joe is the designated Hillary replacement.

Posted by: mrp at February 20, 2016 11:18 AM (JBggj)

51 The real reason prince sandtrap won't attend?

He's afraid someone will push him into the hole first.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Yada, yada, yada.... at February 20, 2016 11:19 AM (WVsWD)

52 If it came to pass, I'd be tempted to attend Obama's funeral.
Just to be sure.
Might bring a selfie stick too.

Posted by: @votermom at February 20, 2016 11:19 AM (cbfNE)

53 @38 Yet he subjected himself to the infidel-ity of the Supreme Court frieze:

http://tinyurl.com/h9y8pvq

Ha. Ram.
Only lasted a minute, though.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 20, 2016 11:20 AM (xq1UY)

54 Obama is a small, petty man who is intentionally insulting Scalia (the man and his work, and the court) by not attending. He knows it, we know it, why pretend otherwise?

Dude sent *10* WH people to Michael Brown's funeral. Security footprint concerns my a$$.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 20, 2016 11:21 AM (NOIQH)

55 In this past week I read Biden wished he had voted against confirming him because he was so effective.

I think Biden meant that as a compliment.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 20, 2016 11:21 AM (1xUj/)

56 A golf course would be easier to make secure than a very large public building I would give them that.

Posted by: Skip at February 20, 2016 11:21 AM (l+OuH)

57 It bothers me that ANY representative from this
administration is attending. Fuck protocol. Give the space to people who
genuinely morn Scalia.

Posted by: JTB at February 20, 2016 11:13 AM (FvdPb)

Supreme Court Justices don't get private family funerals. It comes with the job description.

And it should be possible for conservatives to leave the outrage and emotion out of this discussion. A President is behaving like a petulant partisan prick. What else is new.

What should be voiced, at full throat, is pointing out how the man is not performing the basic functions of his job. But then, hell, that's been true for 7+ years now, so I guess it really doesn't matter anymore.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 20, 2016 11:22 AM (TOk1P)

58 Eh.

It's a good thing that TFG isn't going.

If you saw their drive-by of Scalia in state,

Mooch literally couldn't be the least bit classy for 10 seconds-

she smirked, rolled her eyes, etc.

Then when standing before Scalia's portrait they were yakking together the whole time.

They are simply immature weirdos. Zero self-control.

Scalia's funeral with them there would be like inviting the Westboro Baptist Church a-holes to his funeral.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 20, 2016 11:22 AM (KUa85)

59 Obozo is not going because the Danish prime minister won't be there.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 20, 2016 11:22 AM (Nwg0u)

60 It's not that Trump is siding with FBI over Apple.

It is that Trump has shown zero interest in the larger constitutional issues involved.

Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 20, 2016 11:22 AM (uZNvH)

61 oops, wrong thread, sorry

Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 20, 2016 11:24 AM (uZNvH)

62 If it came to pass, I'd be tempted to attend

Huh, good luck NOT attending. It will be required.

Posted by: t-bird at February 20, 2016 11:25 AM (J3phO)

63 Yeah Trump and the gopE are a a match made in commie heaven. If the San Bernardino shooters had been white Apple would have willingly gave up the info to the FBI.

Posted by: Geoffrey at February 20, 2016 11:26 AM (LoRcb)

64 It is that Trump has shown zero interest in the larger constitutional issues involved.
Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 20, 2016 11:22 AM (uZNvH)

I agree with you on that.
I'd still vote for him, because SMOD come to life, but he is basically a big govt guy.

Posted by: @votermom at February 20, 2016 11:26 AM (cbfNE)

65
Oh on the Apple thing, I would be on their side as a non-truster of govt, except they bend over like a $3 hooker for the ChiComs' every request. So screw em.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 20, 2016 11:26 AM (ODxAs)

66 To all but his acolytes Obama shows what a small. petty man that he is A poster here yesterday said there was a two hour wait to pay respects to the flag draped coffin of Antonin Scalia. For Obama's funeral there might be a two hour wait but not because of any greatness of character, largeness of spirit or scintillating intelligence, or love for America and the Constitution, but simply because they wanted to show up for the first AA President. The one exception might be his children or maybe Michelle. Hopefully they'd show up because he loved them and they loved him. For the others not so much. A sad legacy that.

And for the others-such as Josh Earnest who excuse and defend Obama-They sold their souls- if they even believe they have one.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2016 11:27 AM (w4NZ8)

67 60 It's not that Trump is siding with FBI over Apple.

It is that Trump has shown zero interest in the larger constitutional issues involved.
Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 20, 2016 11:22 AM (uZNvH)

True. I doubt he understands the technology issues, either. (Hell, *I* don't. I don't even have a cell phone.)

See the three Karl Denninger links I posted at #74 in the previous thread.

Posted by: rickl at February 20, 2016 11:28 AM (sdi6R)

68 I've never had anyone closer than a grandparent die. I imagine that when a spouse or child or parent dies, the worst moment would be that first morning you wake up, and in that moment where you're not quite fully awake and aware, everything is okay. And then it hits. I think that has to be one of the worst moments of your life.

Posted by: tdpwells at February 20, 2016 11:28 AM (evKax)

69 Yeah Obama loves the SOTU format where he can lecture the justices and pretend that HE is the constitutional scholar.

Having to sit and hear the praises of a deep thinking textualist would be too much ... Obama would stand up and yell "You Lie" ... and storm out.

There is some real hate out there from the left, even college edumacated folks that just don't understand original intent, so every decision is personal for them based on their emotional PC Religion belief system. State rights, not rewriting law ... those are only hater arguments, in their mind. Of course they never read his decisions ... they just KNOW instinctively, but the instincts are manufactured by the Orwellian thought police.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 20, 2016 11:28 AM (eUbDe)

70 Oh, please. He's afraid that if he sets foot in the church he'll be struck by lightning.
That and the following list:
narcissistic
small minded
petty
self centered
entitled
I could go on but what's the point. No one expects anything better of him.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 20, 2016 11:28 AM (+lVUW)

71 Oh on the Apple thing, I would be on their side as a non-truster of govt, except they bend over like a $3 hooker for the ChiComs' every request. So screw em.

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It's not them who I'm worried will take it up the squeak hole.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 20, 2016 11:29 AM (Nwg0u)

72 P.S. Is Pelosi there? Has she used the occasion to push her idea that it's okay for a Catholic like herself to push for free and easy access to abortion for any trivial reason?

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 20, 2016 11:30 AM (+lVUW)

73 I've never had anyone closer than a grandparent die.
I imagine that when a spouse or child or parent dies, the worst moment
would be that first morning you wake up, and in that moment where you're
not quite fully awake and aware, everything is okay. And then it hits. I
think that has to be one of the worst moments of your life.

Posted by: tdpwells at February 20, 2016 11:28 AM (evKax)

Yep. Sleep gives you those moments of relief. Waking is the fresh scab being ripped off.

It lasts as long as it does, and then it gets better. And worse. Because the pain no longer being immediate is, or can be a cause of guilt and shame.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 20, 2016 11:31 AM (TOk1P)

74 He managed to even lose Chris Hayes on this one.

It really was surprising. To find out Chris Hayes had a moral bone, I mean.

Posted by: jsg at February 20, 2016 11:32 AM (cpqBZ)

75 1 It's not about him, and he can't make it about him.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 20, 2016 10:43 AM (oVJmc)

I dunno. I'm pretty sure that if he did lower himself to attend, he'd find a way to make it all about HIM. He's good at that. Maybe he'd take a selfie of himself in front of the casket.

You know those long "selfie" devices? It would be pretty funny if people all decided to send those to the White House.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 20, 2016 11:32 AM (+lVUW)

76 If you've ever wondered what five-year-old spoiled brats would do if they could control their own lives, Obama's a good example.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 20, 2016 11:32 AM (B8JRQ)

77 Early voting in TN.
Did my part.
All in for Cruz.

Posted by: Paladin (Moderately Nefarious) at February 20, 2016 11:33 AM (LTquJ)

78 It's not them who I'm worried will take it up the squeak hole.

I get that part, it would be fine with me if nobody bought Apple phones and the company died.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 20, 2016 11:34 AM (ODxAs)

79 But I'm sure it's easier and much less trouble for the family that Obama doesn't show up, God comfort and strengthen them in their grief at Scalia's death

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2016 11:35 AM (w4NZ8)

80 Bet Scalia's church wouldn't cover the crucifix up for him.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at February 20, 2016 11:35 AM (FQKBL)

81 Just roll the constitution up and bury it with the man.

Posted by: Jefferson Davis 2016 at February 20, 2016 11:35 AM (3R1Of)

82 Ah, there it is; I wondered where I put that musket after I was waving it around.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at February 20, 2016 11:36 AM (TnUKj)

83
Was the pic of the Sharps a subtle hint of things to come?

Posted by: irongrampa at February 20, 2016 11:36 AM (P/8aq)

84 Poor Barry would deliver a eulogy and lament about how when he dies, nobody could ever deliver a eulogy as historic and poignant as one he, himself, delivers to honor himself.

Posted by: Fritz at February 20, 2016 11:37 AM (BngQR)

85 I don't even like it when Barky goes to Arlington for memorial or veterans day. Yes the POTUS should be there and Barky conned his way into the WH but he is a PINO and everyone knows it.

Posted by: PaleRider at February 20, 2016 11:38 AM (chkUd)

86 Just roll the constitution up and bury it with the man.

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Justice Thomas just spoke. The funeral is on FOX.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 20, 2016 11:38 AM (Nwg0u)

87 g'late mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 20, 2016 11:39 AM (KCxzN)

88 How long will this go on?! I'm drunk & need a piss!

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 20, 2016 11:39 AM (m0JA3)

89 66
Soul-selling and destroying IS , in the end, what Obama is about....all the rest is just the means to that emptiest of places.

Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at February 20, 2016 11:39 AM (xKF/o)

90 Alternatively, Barry could have done a live remote eulogy from the green of the ninth hole at his favorite golf course.

Posted by: Fritz at February 20, 2016 11:39 AM (BngQR)

91 It's not about family, it's about protocol. If Obama
wants to be something other than President, then he should move his ass
out of the White House.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 20, 2016 11:13 AM (TOk1P)

The class ship sailed a loooooong time ago with TFG and his wife. He will be moving his ass out of the White House in nine months and the Congress that we elected would be well advised to limit the further danage he does to this nation.

Getting mad at him for being the scorpion he is seems like a waste of energy.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 20, 2016 11:40 AM (NPofj)

92 The won't be any race baiting opportunities at this funeral. Why should he go?

Posted by: Damiano at February 20, 2016 11:40 AM (XItbt)

93 Yay, Paladin!!!

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at February 20, 2016 11:41 AM (t5zYU)

94 Yep. Old butt buddies we were.

Is this thing on ?

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 20, 2016 11:41 AM (cpqBZ)

95 The Leftist media (birm) has their panties in a wad over Trump's retelling the story of Pershing subduing the Muzzies in the Philippines by shooting them with bullets dipped in pig's blood. And they are citing the Leftist, discredited Snopes.com as a source for the story being false.

Actually, having just read the entire Snopes entry, Snopes is pretty noncommittal. Pershing might have done it, or someone else under his command might have done it. At the least, Pershing THREATENED to do it, and this led to the complete cessation of Muzzie insurrection in Moro Province for the next FIFTY years.

I've been saying it since 9/11. Muzzies love to die as martyrs. Pointing a gun at them only makes them happy. Shoot them with a pigfat bullet and they're not so happy. Then bury them face down covered in pig guts. Let one prisoner free each time, to spread the word.

Hell, I'd put a pig on every airline flight too. They won't risk dying with pig's blood on them.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 20, 2016 11:41 AM (HMt16)

96 Has EPA issued a fatwa converting censers to e-cig heating elements yet?
And if not, why not?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 20, 2016 11:42 AM (xq1UY)

97 I keep meaning to get a trapdoor rifle, just for funsies.

Also, I would like to give my most humble and sincere thanks to God for the yoga pants trend in women's fashion.

Posted by: Weasel at February 20, 2016 11:44 AM (e3bId)

98 Does Choom care about his security footprint when he goes on all those fancy vacations?

Posted by: Titanium at February 20, 2016 11:45 AM (u9UgT)

99 Also, I would like to give my most humble and sincere thanks to God for the yoga pants trend in women's fashion.

Posted by: Weasel at February 20, 2016 11:44 AM (e3bId)

Only when the body wearing them is appropriate for them.

I see more women in the gym stuffed into those who should never be stuffed into them.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 20, 2016 11:45 AM (HMt16)

100 I just noticed. This is at least the 2nd reason the WH has given for BO skipping the funeral - (1) size of VP footprint smaller (2) BO instead going to look at potential SCOTUS nominees.

Posted by: Baldy at February 20, 2016 11:46 AM (1SCTq)

101 When Teh One's funeral comes to pass, the lines will be very ong, and move quite slowly. Also, those farther back in the line will want to wear waders.

Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at February 20, 2016 11:46 AM (wKcQA)

102 30
It would be nice if generally speaking we'd stop with this whole sham giving a fuck when your political enemies die thing. He was a right wing guy so the left hated him. Why go to a guy's funeral and pretend you're sad when reality is you're delirious with joy that he's dead? It would be like Cruz going to Ginsburg's funeral when that cunt finally dies.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 20, 2016 11:07 AM (0LHZx)
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Cruz would go to Ginsburg's funeral. So would Scalia, if she had died before him.

For conservatives, there are things that transcend politics. The hypothetical President Cruz would go out of respect for the high office. Scalia would go for the same reason, along with collegial solidarity and familiar affection.

And both would go with respect for the awful mystery of life and death, recognizing that our petty temporal concerns fade in importance in the face of eternity.

(Of course, for Obama none of these factors pertain because NOTHING transcends the Party and the Self.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 20, 2016 11:47 AM (T/5A0)

103 >>102 Margarita DeVille makes the point so I don't have to.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 20, 2016 11:49 AM (ubByS)

104 Well, said Margarita! Bravo!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2016 11:50 AM (w4NZ8)

105 More than 100 comments and only two mentions of a marvelous example of American gun-making ingenuity?

Who are you people?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 20, 2016 11:50 AM (Zu3d9)

106 It is interesting that GWB went and listened to 4+ hours of being called an enemy of the people at Rosa Parks' funeral (whose eulogy was delivered by a series of pastors, each one striving to outdo each other with how much they hated the Republicans) and still spoke gently and eloquently of her.

Posted by: MrScience_ at February 20, 2016 11:51 AM (V1J2t)

107 danage==damage

Posted by: redbanzai at February 20, 2016 11:51 AM (NPofj)

108 I see a platitude heavy eulegy by Vice Presnint Retard that is heavily rebroadcast on every major network to give the DNC Plan B more exposure. And he will praise "our institutions" and "the living Constitution" and say practically nothing about the man.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at February 20, 2016 11:52 AM (rwqWc)

109 @101
We'll doubtless be treated to escalatingly hysterical displays of grief as a way of showing that one feels grief more deeply than lesser folk. It's always about the virtue signaling. Always.

Posted by: Pep at February 20, 2016 11:52 AM (LAe3v)

110 @105

ONE of us is curious as to why in this context a photo of an American icon appears.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 20, 2016 11:52 AM (P/8aq)

111 What do Hillary and the GOP have in common? Their list of accomplishments warrants your vote.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 20, 2016 11:53 AM (Nwg0u)

112 Actually, I think Biden will do fine. Unlike Obama, I think he has some appreciation for the RC tradition; He was raised as a Catholic, after all and still claims it and I think he does understand about eternity having buried a wife and several; children. I think Biden might go even if he wasn't required to do so.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2016 11:53 AM (w4NZ8)

113 I've never had anyone closer than a grandparent die.
I imagine that when a spouse or child or parent dies, the worst moment
would be that first morning you wake up, and in that moment where you're
not quite fully awake and aware, everything is okay. And then it hits. I
think that has to be one of the worst moments of your life.

Posted by: tdpwells
-------------------
There are worse moments. Like when you wake up & realize there is no God. A mother should never have to bury her child, and I've seen it too many times...

On that depressing note, I'm going outside to throw sticks with a puppy .

Posted by: Chi at February 20, 2016 11:54 AM (z1mje)

114 It is interesting that GWB went and listened to 4+
hours of being called an enemy of the people at Rosa Parks' funeral
(whose eulogy was delivered by a series of pastors, each one striving to
outdo each other with how much they hated the Republicans) and still
spoke gently and eloquently of her.

Posted by: MrScience_ at February 20, 2016 11:51 AM (V1J2t)

That is because GWB for all his faults was an adult with class and compassion. None of those three things apply to TGF.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 20, 2016 11:54 AM (NPofj)

115 Barry's not going because Michele is tightening his leash. If he can't behave at Mandela's funeral think how he'd embarrass her here.

Posted by: Ty Angue at February 20, 2016 11:54 AM (/3hFY)

116 We could go to Scalia's funeral but that's not who we are.

- Darth Obozo

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 20, 2016 11:55 AM (Nwg0u)

117 I think Obama would be totes uncomfortable with this mass - a mass that is not infected w/liberation theology/SJW progressive b.s. as well as all the love and admiration on display for his political foe Scalia. He may very well have been struck by lightening. Also, does he take communion?

Posted by: Lizzy at February 20, 2016 11:56 AM (NOIQH)

118 A mother should never have to bury her child,

Yes, that must be an incredibly agonizing thing.

I know people who have been through it they still kept their faith. Mary did too.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2016 11:57 AM (w4NZ8)

119 We'll doubtless be treated to escalatingly hysterical displays of grief as a way of showing that one feels grief more deeply than lesser folk. It's always about the virtue signaling. Always.
Posted by: Pep at February 20, 2016 11:52 AM (LAe3v)[

Oh, I suspect the grave will be awash (hence my recommendation for waders), but not in tears.

Sorry, but was I being too subtle?

Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at February 20, 2016 11:58 AM (wKcQA)

120 Oh yes, he is so concerned about his security footprint inconveniencing people like when he goes to NYC on a date night or has someone move their wedding from a golf course on a military installation in Hawaii because he's playing through.

Posted by: no good deed at February 20, 2016 11:59 AM (GgxVX)

121 Scalia's son Paul just delivered one of the finest eulogies I've ever heard.

Posted by: JTB at February 20, 2016 11:59 AM (FvdPb)

122
A mother should never have to bury her child,

Yes, that must be an incredibly agonizing thing.

I know people who have been through it they still kept their faith. Mary did too.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2016 11:57 AM (w4NZ

There is a God even when you can do nothing but rail at him.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 20, 2016 11:59 AM (NPofj)

123 Railing at God is an expression of faith too; It's throughout the Bible. Even Jesus said "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me? and I don't think it was just a reference to a passage in the Hebrew Scriptures.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2016 12:01 PM (w4NZ8)

124 >>Scalia's son Paul just delivered one of the finest eulogies I've ever heard.

Yes, it was beautiful.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 20, 2016 12:02 PM (NOIQH)

125
114 It is interesting that GWB went and listened to 4+
hours of being called an enemy of the people at Rosa Parks' funeral
(whose eulogy was delivered by a series of pastors, each one striving to
outdo each other with how much they hated the Republicans) and still
spoke gently and eloquently of her.

Posted by: MrScience_ at February 20, 2016 11:51 AM (V1J2t)

That is because GWB for all his faults was an adult with class and compassion. None of those three things apply to TGF.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 20, 2016 11:54 AM (NPofj)

Sadly, in response to all Democrat attacks W acted as if he was at Rosa Parks' funeral.

Posted by: eman at February 20, 2016 12:02 PM (MQEz6)

126 121
Scalia's son Paul just delivered one of the finest eulogies I've ever heard.

Posted by: JTB at February 20, 2016 11:59 AM (FvdPb)

Yes. Beautiful service.

Now, if DOCTOR Jill will just keep Joe from groping and sniffing the hair of Mrs. Scalia and her daughters and granddaughters.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2016 12:02 PM (FsuaD)

127 It would be nice if generally speaking we'd stop
with this whole sham giving a fuck when your political enemies die
thing. He was a right wing guy so the left hated him. Why go to a guy's
funeral and pretend you're sad when reality is you're delirious with joy
that he's dead? It would be like Cruz going to Ginsburg's funeral when
that cunt finally dies.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 20, 2016 11:07 AM (0LHZx)

------------------------------

Cruz would go to Ginsburg's funeral. So would Scalia, if she had died before him.

For conservatives, there are things that transcend politics. The
hypothetical President Cruz would go out of respect for the high office.
Scalia would go for the same reason, along with collegial solidarity
and familiar affection.

And both would go with respect for the awful mystery of life and
death, recognizing that our petty temporal concerns fade in importance
in the face of eternity.

(Of course, for Obama none of these factors pertain because NOTHING transcends the Party and the Self.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 20, 2016 11:47 AM (T/5A0)

I will add that it will be a sad day when we are no better than our political enemies in our actions because, on that day, we will have lost what we have been so desperately fighting for.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 20, 2016 12:03 PM (NPofj)

128 Scalia's son Paul just delivered one of the finest eulogies I've ever heard.

I can't even imagine the grace it takes to do that. I did a reading at my brother's funeral, and it was all I could do to get through it without breaking down in tears.

Posted by: no good deed at February 20, 2016 12:03 PM (GgxVX)

129 NOOD Gardening thread

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 20, 2016 12:04 PM (t5zYU)

130 why have you forsaken me?

I can't help but read that as, "why hast thou forsaken me?" You kids and your new-fangled English!

Posted by: t-bird at February 20, 2016 12:05 PM (yddCj)

131 Hot Air is pushing Rombly as a credible third party conservative candidate. The GOP is going suicide bomber.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 20, 2016 12:05 PM (Nwg0u)

132 Posted by: t-bird at February 20, 2016 12:05 PM (yddCj)

I actually like the KJV. I still use the traditional version of the Lords prayer too, rather than the modern language versions which are available.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2016 12:07 PM (w4NZ8)

133 The Great White Snark

Double facepalm!

Posted by: db at February 20, 2016 12:08 PM (QXiz8)

134 Now, if DOCTOR Jill will just keep Joe from groping and sniffing the hair of Mrs. Scalia and her daughters and granddaughters.

-
Joe's eulogy: This is a big fvcking deal.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 20, 2016 12:08 PM (Nwg0u)

135 Obama wouldn't know what to do in a church.

Posted by: RobM1981 at February 20, 2016 12:14 PM (zurJC)

136 131 Hot Air is pushing Rombly as a credible third party conservative candidate. The GOP is going suicide bomber.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 20, 2016 12:05 PM (Nwg0u)
----------------------
For some reason --- (what do I know?) --- I can't see Romney himself going for that.

My guess is that the guy going 3rd-party will be Kasich. He has nothing to lose by doing it. (The youngsters in the GOP won't want to take such a political risk.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 20, 2016 12:15 PM (T/5A0)

137 135
Obama wouldn't know what to do in a church.

Posted by: RobM1981 at February 20, 2016 12:14 PM (zurJC)

He'd wonder why women are allowed, and how come the men aren't on the floor with their butts in the air.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2016 12:17 PM (FsuaD)

138 I am not especially religious in any formal sense, but Paul Scalia's eulogy and conduct of the mass is a potent example of the power of his faith.

Posted by: JTB at February 20, 2016 12:17 PM (FvdPb)

139 114 It is interesting that GWB went and listened to 4+
hours of being called an enemy of the people at Rosa Parks' funeral
(whose eulogy was delivered by a series of pastors, each one striving to
outdo each other with how much they hated the Republicans) and still
spoke gently and eloquently of her.

Posted by: MrScience_ at February 20, 2016 11:51 AM (V1J2t)

______

GWB allowed the left to beat him up without ever fighting back. Obama did the opposite. GWB had very few wins, Obama has had nothing but wins.

I'm tired of playing nice, aren't you?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 20, 2016 12:18 PM (0LHZx)

140 Obama and the left understands that politics is war. They don't give a fuck about protocol or "doing the right thing". They care about one thing: winning.

When a Japanese general died, did Eisenhower attend the funeral?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 20, 2016 12:21 PM (0LHZx)

141 "For this purpose was I spared" makes a lot more sense, as the Lamsa Bible has it, translated more from Aramaic. The KJV is questionable because they even included the Aramaic words in the English text. JC said he could have called on legions of angels to save him ... it makes zero sense that he ever felt forsaken by God. That contradicts all other scripture on the subject. People forsook him, not God. JC knew his purpose to the very end.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamsa_Bible

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 20, 2016 12:21 PM (eUbDe)

142 Trump sneered, "Obama is probably golfing, he has more important things to do."
Posted by: Jen the original at February 20, 2016 11:12 AM (gOsh1)

As much as he irks me, I'm glad he said it. We say it, and it's among ourselves. He says it, and it's public acknowledgement of the obvious.

Posted by: April at February 20, 2016 12:22 PM (FjIA5)

143 131 Hot Air is pushing Rombly as a credible third party conservative candidate. The GOP is going suicide bomber.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 20, 2016 12:05 PM (Nwg0u)

The FBI better hack their iPhones.

Posted by: rickl at February 20, 2016 12:23 PM (sdi6R)

144 When a Japanese general died, did Eisenhower attend the funeral?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 20, 2016 12:21 PM (0LHZx)

Ummm....wut?

How is that remotely equivalent?

Posted by: Tami at February 20, 2016 12:23 PM (v0/PR)

145 Twitter political speech control took another victim last night, as you may already have heard.

Robert Stacy McCain's account has been suspended, probably for arguing back when loony feminazis start their cray-cray. Twitter does not want conservatives.

Posted by: MTF at February 20, 2016 12:25 PM (TxJGV)

146 129 NOOD Gardening thread
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 20, 2016 12:04 PM (t5zYU)

This would be a good occasion for a floating open thread. I could care less about gardening.

In the absence of that, I guess we'll have to treat this as an open thread.

Posted by: rickl at February 20, 2016 12:27 PM (sdi6R)

147 if Scalia were a MOOOOOOSELIM, obama would be giving theology.

Posted by: mohammed Scalia at February 20, 2016 12:31 PM (fijdj)

148 Is that Newt's wife singing in the choir?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 20, 2016 12:33 PM (/tuJf)

149 I just spotted Calista Gingrich in the choir.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2016 12:34 PM (FsuaD)

150 144 When a Japanese general died, did Eisenhower attend the funeral?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 20, 2016 12:21 PM (0LHZx)

Ummm....wut?

How is that remotely equivalent?
Posted by: Tami at February 20, 2016 12:23 PM (v0/PR)

Yeah, that's totally ridiculous.

Eisenhower was in the ETO. It was Nimitz who should have attended the Japanese general's funeral.

Posted by: rickl at February 20, 2016 12:37 PM (sdi6R)

151 Twitter political speech control took another victim last night, as you may already have heard.

Robert Stacy McCain's account has been suspended, probably for arguing back when loony feminazis start their cray-cray. Twitter does not want conservatives.
Posted by: MTF at February 20, 2016 12:25 PM (TxJGV)

Neither does farcebook.
The biggest part of me says fuck 'em, but that misses the point.
The point is that all these social media places are public forums, where all sorts of people meet. Here at AosHQ, or over at HuffPo, are limited appeal markets, where birds of a feather flock together. It makes much more sense to drive a "heretic" off of a narrow POV website than to clear out the town square of all dissent.

I get it. Twitter, farcebook and all the rest are actually privately held companies, and their owners are free to moderate it as they see fit. But they market those places as public forums, then drive dissent off of the sites, and those remaining foolishly believe that either there is no differing viewpoints out there, or that they won.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 20, 2016 12:38 PM (kKHcp)

152 Ummm....wut?

How is that remotely equivalent?

Posted by: Tami

Joe Johnston went to William Sherman's funeral. He said that Sherman would do the same for him.
And Johnston caught pneumonia and died a short time later.

Clinton went to Nixon's funeral, as he was President when Richard Nixon died, and was actually gracious in his remarks at the funeral.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at February 20, 2016 12:40 PM (+1T7c)

153 When a Japanese general died, did Eisenhower attend the funeral?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 20, 2016 12:21 PM (0LHZx)

And Eisenhower also didn't attend Eichmann's funeral. Bastard.

Of course, maybe that's because Eichmann was just an Obersturmbannf�hrer. Protocol, you know.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 20, 2016 12:41 PM (oKE6c)

154 The funeral Mass is better for not having President Moi there.

Posted by: logprof at February 20, 2016 12:42 PM (7ESCG)

155 Or worse yet, are happy in their fascism, and happy to forcibly squelch any wrongthink.

Long story short, whether by choice or by force, only having one point of view on the field of battle means the battle is won by those who still have a voice.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 20, 2016 12:42 PM (kKHcp)

156 147 if Scalia were a MOOOOOOSELIM, obama would be giving theology.
Posted by: mohammed Scalia at February 20, 2016 12:31 PM (fijdj)

And if Scalia had been a black thug killed while trying to murder a police officer, Obama would be blubbing at graveside.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 20, 2016 12:43 PM (oKE6c)

157 One of the priests just tripped and nearly fell.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2016 12:44 PM (FsuaD)

158 I understand that people don't want Obama there....I get that. The President of the United States, however, should be at the funeral of a supreme court justice.

It's about the office...not the person. Unfortunately, the person who currently inhabits the office is a petulant child.

Posted by: Tami at February 20, 2016 12:45 PM (v0/PR)

159 One of the priests just tripped and nearly fell.

I just saw our parish priest.

Posted by: no good deed at February 20, 2016 12:45 PM (GgxVX)

160 at Rosa Parks' funeral
(whose eulogy was delivered by a series of pastors, each one striving to
outdo each other with how much they hated the Republicans)

Maybe slavery was more popular with them than we knew?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 20, 2016 12:46 PM (oKE6c)

161 I'm sure Scalia's family is relieved Preezy Allaboutme isn't there, chewing gum and looking bored, sitting next to angry Mooch.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2016 12:46 PM (FsuaD)

162 158 I understand that people don't want Obama there....I get that.

The President of the United States, however, should be at the funeral of a supreme court justice.

It's about the office...not the person. Unfortunately, the person who currently inhabits the office is a petulant child.

Posted by: Tami at February 20, 2016 12:45 PM (v0/PR)

This. Succinct, and exactly on point.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 20, 2016 12:47 PM (oKE6c)

163 Are all the pallbearers Scalia's grandsons?

That's what we did when my grandpop passed away.

Posted by: logprof at February 20, 2016 12:47 PM (7ESCG)

164 Remember when George and Laura Bush attended that endless, rambling, shriek-festing, disaster known as Coretta Scott King's funeral and sat in the front row for hours and hours while eulogists directly insulted them and they never lost their composure?

I understand this concept of electing someone as mean as the liberals.

What do high principles and good manners get us but moar charges of racism?

Posted by: iforgot at February 20, 2016 12:47 PM (YOxw1)

165 "For this purpose was I spared" makes a lot more
sense, as the Lamsa Bible has it, translated more from Aramaic. The KJV
is questionable because they even included the Aramaic words in the
English text. JC said he could have called on legions of angels to save
him ... it makes zero sense that he ever felt forsaken by God. That
contradicts all other scripture on the subject. People forsook him, not
God. JC knew his purpose to the very end.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamsa_Bible

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 20, 2016 12:21 PM (eUbDe)

It makes all the sense in the world when you consider that Jesus held all of our sins on Himself as He hung on the cross. At that moment he took all of our punishment and, as every one of us would have been forsaken by God for our sins, so was Jesus.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 20, 2016 12:48 PM (NPofj)

166 Quite a few Obamabots are dismayed Barry avoided the funeral. They're actually embarrassed.

Good.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2016 12:49 PM (FsuaD)

167 >>Are all the pallbearers Scalia's grandsons?

They are members of the Supreme Court police force.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 20, 2016 12:49 PM (/tuJf)

168 161 I'm sure Scalia's family is relieved Preezy Allaboutme isn't there, chewing gum and looking bored, sitting next to angry Mooch.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2016 12:46 PM (FsuaD)

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that. If he was there, he would be smacking gum throughout.

Posted by: rickl at February 20, 2016 12:50 PM (sdi6R)

169 This. Succinct, and exactly on point.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 20, 2016 12:47 PM (oKE6c)

While I may agree with both Tami and Margarita in theory, in practice it means Obama would or should be obligated to be there.

Given what is known of the man, would you actually be happier today if he was there?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 20, 2016 12:50 PM (kKHcp)

170 Obama's "Christian jacket" must be out at the cleaners.

Posted by: James T Kirk at February 20, 2016 12:50 PM (e8kgV)

171 I'm sure Scalia's family is relieved Preezy Allaboutme isn't there, chewing gum and looking bored, sitting next to angry Mooch.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

It's just the misapprehension of the protocol of the office by Obama.

The President of the United States is supposed to stand above a lot of the pettiness of daily partisan politics, at least on occasion.

Obama is just a self-centered man, who can't rise about his most narcissist impulses, regardless of the situation. Every year that goes past just has more examples and precedents of what a frankly miserable person and President he is.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at February 20, 2016 12:51 PM (+1T7c)

172 164 Remember when George and Laura Bush attended that endless, rambling, shriek-festing, disaster known as Coretta Scott King's funeral and sat in the front row for hours and hours while eulogists directly insulted them and they never lost their composure?
I understand this concept of electing someone as mean as the liberals.
What do high principles and good manners get us but moar charges of racism?
Posted by: iforgot at February 20, 2016 12:47 PM (YOxw1)

And in this context, who can forget the Wellstein ~~political rally~~ funeral?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 20, 2016 12:51 PM (oKE6c)

173 Hot Air is pushing Rombly as a credible third party conservative candidate. The GOP is going suicide bomber.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 20, 2016 12:05 PM (Nwg0u)

----------------------------

Sometimes pundits just run out of things to talk about or they run out of topics on which they know more than other people, so they start asking utterly ridiculous questions about 1%-likely scenarios.

Posted by: iforgot at February 20, 2016 12:54 PM (YOxw1)

174 Given what is known of the man, would you actually be happier today if he was there?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 20, 2016 12:50 PM (kKHcp)

I agree with that, too. In principle, the President of the US should attend the funeral of a Supreme Court Justice, just as a matter of protocol (i.e., by virtue of their two positions), just for the sake of symbolism.
But he should also be gracious about it, and at the occasion, and this asshole would probably be grinning and taking selfies as he did even at Mandela's funeral, so in his particular case it's probably just as well he doesn't show up.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 20, 2016 12:54 PM (oKE6c)

175 I'm glad when I was a pallbearer I did not have to go down that many steps.

Posted by: logprof at February 20, 2016 12:54 PM (7ESCG)

176 ...it's probably just as well he doesn't show up.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 20, 2016 12:54 PM (oKE6c)

And that is exactly my point.

It's unfortunate where we are as a society, but most of got here kicking and screaming the whole way. It's past time to be realistic.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 20, 2016 12:56 PM (kKHcp)

177 Perhaps a reminder of the character of men like Scalia and what we should aspire to (instead of emulating the childish cry bullying of the left):

If (Rudyard Kipling)

If you can keep your head when all about you

Are losing
theirs and blaming it on you,

If you can trust yourself when all men doubt
you,

But make allowance for their doubting too;

If you can wait and not
be tired by waiting,

Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,

Or being
hated, don't give way to hating,

And yet don't look too good, nor talk too
wise:

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master,

If you
can think - and not make thoughts your aim;

If you can meet with Triumph and
Disaster

And treat those two impostors just the same;

If you can bear to
hear the truth you've spoken

Twisted by knaves to make a trap for
fools,

Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,

And stoop and
build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings

And risk it
all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,

And lose, and start again at your
beginnings

And never breathe a word about your loss;

If you can force
your heart and nerve and sinew

To serve your turn long after they are
gone,

And so hold on when there is nothing in you

Except the Will which
says to them: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,

Or walk
with kings - nor lose the common touch,

If neither foes nor loving friends
can hurt you,

If all men count with you, but none too much;

If you can
fill the unforgiving minute

With sixty seconds' worth of distance
run,

Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,

And - which is more
- you'll be a Man, my son!

Posted by: redbanzai at February 20, 2016 12:57 PM (NPofj)

178 Most impressive funeral I've see since JPII's.

Posted by: logprof at February 20, 2016 12:59 PM (7ESCG)

179 What an amazing son Paul Scalia is.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2016 01:01 PM (FsuaD)

180 FenelonSpoke: Railing at God is an expression of faith too; It's throughout the Bible. Even Jesus said "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me? and I don't think it was just a reference to a passage in the Hebrew Scriptures.

Hm. Well, Jesus' death-throe recitation of the opening of Psalm 22, that most literal of prophetic scripture, has always suggested to me more the reassurance of faith and has kept me from the feeling of "railing at God."

"For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard."

Just my 2¢ worth. Various interpretations of "railing," I suppose.

Posted by: mindful webworker - bulls have compassed me at February 20, 2016 01:02 PM (dGKUu)

181 Reformatted:

Perhaps a reminder of the character of men like Scalia and what we
should aspire to (instead of emulating the childish cry bullying of the
left):

If (Rudyard Kipling)

If you can keep your head when all about you

Are losing
theirs and blaming it on you,

If you can trust yourself when all men doubt
you,

But make allowance for their doubting too;

If you can wait and not
be tired by waiting,

Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,

Or being
hated, don't give way to hating,

And yet don't look too good, nor talk too
wise:

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master,

If you
can think - and not make thoughts your aim;

If you can meet with Triumph and
Disaster

And treat those two impostors just the same;

If you can bear to
hear the truth you've spoken

Twisted by knaves to make a trap for
fools,

Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,

And stoop and
build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings

And risk it
all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,

And lose, and start again at your
beginnings

And never breathe a word about your loss;

If you can force
your heart and nerve and sinew

To serve your turn long after they are
gone,

And so hold on when there is nothing in you

Except the Will which
says to them: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,

Or walk
with kings - nor lose the common touch,

If neither foes nor loving friends
can hurt you,

If all men count with you, but none too much;

If you can
fill the unforgiving minute

With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,

Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,

And - which is more
- you'll be a Man, my son!

Posted by: redbanzai at February 20, 2016 01:02 PM (NPofj)

182 On this day of all days, kindly screw off MUMR.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2016 01:02 PM (FsuaD)

183 It's been noted several times that Scalia and Ginsberg were good friends despite partisan differences. 0bama would never understand such a relationship.

Posted by: logprof at February 20, 2016 01:03 PM (7ESCG)

184 Thank you, oh great Banhammer!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 20, 2016 01:03 PM (FsuaD)

185 Besides, it's in a church.

Posted by: burt at February 20, 2016 01:04 PM (r1CBK)

186 "as every one of us would have been forsaken by God for our sins, so was Jesus." redbanzai

well there are other interpretations ... usually they go with "he was quoting old testament scripture that prophesied of the coming messiah" ... But that makes less sense to me. The words are right there, and some Aramaic folks other than Lamsa make a more sensible interpretation of those words.

If God forsakes even his son that lived perfectly and was obedient, the rest of us can figure we have no chance at all. I just like people to know, there are other interpretations, than that God forsakes His own in their hour of greatest need.

But I don't believe the Bible is perfectly God breathed, and is wrong on some things ... so am not interested in arguing original texts (which we don't have anyway). But I like the concept that Aramaic was maybe original since it seemed more like the commoners language. But I used to use both, Greek probably most. But religions can be like political parties and have their own versions of truth, and I left all that long ago. cheers ...

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 20, 2016 01:04 PM (eUbDe)

187 OK so Pixy hates my attempts at formatting so here is a link to the poem in its proper stanzas: http://www.businessballs.com/ifpoemrudyardkipling.htm

Posted by: redbanzai at February 20, 2016 01:05 PM (NPofj)

188 Posted by: Illiniwek at February 20, 2016 12:21 PM (eUbDe)

I'm late to the thread as always, but it's pretty universally agreed that he was referencing the 22nd psalm, which refers to the suffering servant and has hecka messianic overtones, and the surrounding Isrealites would have recognized it as such.

Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at February 20, 2016 01:06 PM (KkVB6)

189 When does voting/caucusing close in NVand SC?

Posted by: logprof at February 20, 2016 01:11 PM (7ESCG)

190 #95

Actually, having just read the entire Snopes entry, Snopes is pretty
noncommittal. Pershing might have done it, or someone else under his
command might have done it. At the least, Pershing THREATENED to do it,
and this led to the complete cessation of Muzzie insurrection in Moro
Province for the next FIFTY years.

============

A bit more complicated than that. Pershing's "March Around The Lake" was mostly a long series of negotiations with tribal chiefs backed by American field artillery. He stormed the occasional Moro fort to demonstrate that he meant business and won the support of the chiefs while his troop suffered minimal casualties.

Richard Goldhurst's Pershing biography "Pipe Clay And Drill" is an excellent read.

Posted by: mrp at February 20, 2016 01:13 PM (JBggj)

191 Hillary! sounded like she thanked volunteers for knocking down doors.

Posted by: logprof at February 20, 2016 01:13 PM (7ESCG)

192 Does anyone care what Krauthammer has to say? He's a miserable piece of excrement.

Posted by: D at February 20, 2016 01:14 PM (AGY3g)

193 LMAO pro-Cruz robo-calls are still mentioning New York values.

I'm so glad I don't live in a busy primary state.

Posted by: logprof at February 20, 2016 01:16 PM (7ESCG)

194
This old agnostic must recommend Paul Scalia's eulogy of his father, Antonin.

What a beautiful and humble tribute.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 20, 2016 01:16 PM (MIKMs)

195 Posted by: mindful webworker - bulls have compassed me at February 20, 2016 01:02 PM (dGKUu)

Well, yes, that is certainly a quite a (faith informed) reasonable way of looking at it. I don't disagree with you. I think my point was (albeit phrased poorly) that some people suggest that Jesus wasn't feeling forsaken-that he was just quoting Psalm 22. It wouldn't bother me if for some time Jesus was feeling forsaken-which isn't the same as "railing" that's true. It's more frustration . Psalm 22 ends in a word of hope (vs. 22-24) Psalm 13 has the same dynamic. Each time the psalmist complains to God he ends with praising him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2016 01:21 PM (w4NZ8)

196 This old agnostic must recommend Paul Scalia's eulogy of his father, Antonin.

What a beautiful and humble tribute.
Posted by: mustbequantum at February 20, 2016 01:16 PM (MIKMs)

--Unfortunately, I only caught the end (beginning with "In Paridisium") but what I saw was lovely.

Posted by: logprof at February 20, 2016 01:21 PM (7ESCG)

197 Scalia Son did a beautiful job.
It must be very hard to lead the Mass for your father & on national television.

Posted by: Carol at February 20, 2016 01:22 PM (sj3Ax)

198 "has hecka messianic overtones, and the surrounding Isrealites would have recognized it as such." Mandy

In the US religious world .. not universally agreed on, I'd suggest. But that Israelites would have understood the greater context makes a lot of sense, and is a solid point. And the meaning is still that JC was not forsaken by God. OT is NT concealed, NT is OT revealed ... as they say.

To me, just quoting that forsaken part doesn't make sense ... so I "like" the eastern translation based more in Aramaic words. The Bible was an Eastern book first. Either way, God does not forsake us is the important part.

Also, imo, religion has been defiled like our constitution gets defiled. But those scribes did a reasonable job and maintaining accuracy. But it took Gutenberg and some reformers to get back to "textualist" translations, as Scalia prefers we practice from the bench. So I like that tie in.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 20, 2016 01:23 PM (eUbDe)

199 And I don't think God forsook Jesus, but the human Jesus may have felt like he did.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2016 01:26 PM (w4NZ8)

200 "If God forsakes even his son that lived perfectly and was obedient, the
rest of us can figure we have no chance at all. I just like people to
know, there are other interpretations, than that God forsakes His own in
their hour of greatest need."

The whole point of God's grace and Jesus sacrifice is that Jesus was perfect but still willingly took on all of our filth and sin so that we would not have to bear our rightful wages. The wages of our sin would have been separation from God and rejection by him. By bearing our sin on the cross, Jesus suffered that separation and rejection in our place. Jesus suffering on the cross was not just physical but spiritual too.

You are right, though, that none of us would have any chance at all but for God's grace as shown through Jesus sacrifice.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 20, 2016 01:26 PM (NPofj)

201 He and the Mooch have less class than two drunk clowns at a whoopee cushion convention.

Posted by: Buffalbob at February 20, 2016 01:29 PM (8nL8o)

202 I don't know that saying Mass for your father on TV would necessarily be that hard. It might be, but maybe not, I don't know that he's care about the TV and if you're said Mass that many times you can probably do it and still maintain your decorum whatever the circumstances, because you must. And if you're thinking about the words of the Mass and are involved they probably carry you thorough. I say that as having colleagues who officiated at the funeral services for parents or friends, not having done so myself. There wouldn't be anyone more appropriate, IMO, to serve the Mass for his dad.

But I hope his eulogy is on the internet. I would like to hear it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2016 01:31 PM (w4NZ8)

203 It must be very hard to lead the Mass for your father on national television.

Posted by: Carol at February 20, 2016 01:22 PM (sj3Ax)
-------------------------I don't know how people can eulogize someone they're that close to without losing it. I'd have to take a bunch of robot pills to speak with composure at my mom's funeral.

Posted by: iforgot at February 20, 2016 01:32 PM (YOxw1)

204 why no autopsy ? Probably for the same reason jfk Jr. Didn't have one

Posted by: Terry at February 20, 2016 01:34 PM (11XlZ)

205 And if he lost it, temporarily, would who/should judge? It's his dad. People who have to get up in front of people all the time no matter how they feel probably understand, but people who don't do that regularly might find the whole idea of getting up in front of people and speaking difficult enough anyway. without the added burden of the personal grief you're feeling. But he's a priest; he has to be a priest to all the RC there and not just be a son of his father.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2016 01:36 PM (w4NZ8)

206 Fenelon -- Paul Scalia's eulogy is on Fox video (main page). Remove spaces.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4765662525001/ funeral-mass-homily-for-justice-antonin-scalia /?intcmp=hpvid1#sp=show-clips

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 20, 2016 01:38 PM (MIKMs)

207 Getting ready to go vote. And taking 19-year old Jr. Black to his very first voting experience. He's going to vote for Trump, despite my efforts. Oh well, Mr. Black and myself are pulling the lever for Cruz.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at February 20, 2016 01:38 PM (pVkEV)

208 Shall we call this an open thread then? I couldn't care less about gardening either.

Here's a phun quote from the New York Times story on Harper Lee's death:

"It [her second novel] included several scenes in which Atticus expresses conservative views
on race relations seemingly at odds with his liberal stance in the
earlier novel."

Isn't that special? Harper Lee's Alabama racist horror was virtually 100% Democrat while the original civil rights leaders were Republican (Frederick Douglass, anyone? Martin Luther King?) and this numbskull obituarist equates it with "conservative."

Posted by: iforgot at February 20, 2016 01:39 PM (YOxw1)

209 That will be the last legal civilian firearm between Obie's SCOTUS appointment and Trump.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at February 20, 2016 01:39 PM (Kucy5)

210 Funeral? Pfft. Where's my caddy?

Posted by: The Great Uniter at February 20, 2016 01:42 PM (Dwehj)

211 #207 you can always change your will.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at February 20, 2016 01:42 PM (Kucy5)

212 Is any GOP nominee that is electable?

Posted by: Terry at February 20, 2016 01:43 PM (11XlZ)

213 #207 you can always change your will.

--

Heh. I hadn't taken that approach yet. Things to ponder on the way there....

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at February 20, 2016 01:43 PM (pVkEV)

214 Posted by: mustbequantum at February 20, 2016 01:38 PM (MIKMs)

Thx very much.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2016 01:44 PM (w4NZ8)

215 A U.S. air strike against ISIS in Libya may have killed two hostages.

Just another day's work in Barky's military.

Posted by: logprof at February 20, 2016 01:44 PM (STcIm)

216 And if he lost it, temporarily, would who/should judge?

------------------------------

Oh, I wouldn't worry about being judged. I'm just saying I couldn't do it. I'd break down and have to be helped away from the pulpit.

Posted by: iforgot at February 20, 2016 01:45 PM (YOxw1)

217 Apropos of nothing, a little while ago I placed some flowers on my late cat Leo's grave in the back yard. Today would have been his birthday.

His sister Kira turned 16 today and I just skritched her head.

Posted by: rickl at February 20, 2016 01:46 PM (sdi6R)

218 Is any GOP nominee that is electable?

Posted by: Terry at February 20, 2016 01:43 PM (11XlZ)

--------------------------
Who knows with all the crazy-ass havoc that voters and elites are wreaking all over each other this year? I bet the chances that neither Sanders nor Hillary is the Dem nominee are statistically significant.

Posted by: iforgot at February 20, 2016 01:48 PM (YOxw1)

219 I think that's one of the values of ritual/or liturgy
You have memorized words which you know and you say. You don't have to go off the cuff, Getting through a homily for your dad would be different but I'm sure he wants to give Christian hope to the people there, so the Holy Spirit probably carries you though-and then after it's all over you may collapse..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2016 01:48 PM (w4NZ8)

220 Apropos of nothing, a little while ago I placed some
flowers on my late cat Leo's grave in the back yard. Today would have
been his birthday.

His sister Kira turned 16 today and I just skritched her head.

Posted by: rickl at February 20, 2016 01:46 PM (sdi6R)
________
We are blessed for whatever time we have of love. I'm having trouble getting up the courage to sell the old homeplace -- one of the reasons is our pets buried under the Rose of Sharon bush. Still miss them all, but I am grateful for the time we had.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 20, 2016 01:50 PM (MIKMs)

221 Did Josh say carbon footprint? I'd rather discuss that. Much more important that some wingnut justice kickin' the bucket.

Posted by: The Great Uniter at February 20, 2016 01:51 PM (Dwehj)

222 219 I think that's one of the values of ritual/or liturgy
You have memorized words which you know and you say. You don't have to go off the cuff, Getting through a homily for your dad would be different but I'm sure he wants to give Christian hope to the people there, so the Holy Spirit probably carries you though-and then after it's all over you may collapse..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2016 01:48 PM (w4NZ

--The graveside service is private for the family. I'm sure the open grieving is happening there.

Posted by: logprof at February 20, 2016 01:52 PM (7ESCG)

223 Heh, Harris Faulkner seemed gleeful announcing the bad news about Hillary!'s numbers.

Posted by: logprof at February 20, 2016 01:53 PM (7ESCG)

224
Posted by: rickl at February 20, 2016 01:46 PM (sdi6R)

-------------------
Awww. Did Kira miss him? We feed two feral cats at my dance studio who are best buddies (obviously from the same litter or mother-and-child) and one day one of them got in someone's car and traveled half a mile down a busy street, jumped out, and disappeared in traffic. The other cat was absolutely miserable, screaming at us for weeks.
And then one day . . . the other cat reappeared. She had burn spots on her legs, but WOW. What a happy ending.

Posted by: iforgot at February 20, 2016 01:54 PM (YOxw1)

225 I was telling my sister yesterday that I would vote for someone like Putin.

He LOVES his country. Trump may turn into a Mussolini, but he loves America.

Too funny. I voted early in the day. Today's mailbag had 6 count them 6 political mailings, 1 from Trump, 2 from Mario, 1 from Ben Carson, and two attacking Ted Cruz (who they are from is a mystery).

Cue "It's too late baby, it's too late, though I really tried to love you."

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 20, 2016 01:54 PM (1ijHg)

226 "The whole point of God's grace and Jesus sacrifice is that Jesus was
perfect but still willingly took on all of our filth and sin" red banzai

he was tempted in all points, yet without sin. He "partook" of sin nature, but remained faithful to every jot and tittle. He never had a doubt, he was the second Adam, the first on disobeyed. "If there be any other way let this cross pass from me" iirc But the answer was, ... no other way.

He didn't "take on our sin" by sinning himself. He was the lamb of God, innocent completely. That made him the perfect sacrifice, the passover lamb that was not just a symbolic lamb good till the next year. He lived perfectly and was the only one that could.

It seems critical to the Christian belief that people don't think he went weak and felt God left him. He recognized to the end, what his mission was.

I think the "why hast though forsaken me" has to be a corruption since so many get the wrong message from it. And while I don't believe texts are perfect, I think the concept is still important.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 20, 2016 01:56 PM (eUbDe)

227 Heh, Harris Faulkner seemed gleeful announcing the bad news about Hillary!'s numbers.
Posted by: logprof at February 20, 2016 01:53 PM (7ESCG)

__________

Watching her wrangle the cats on 'Political Insiders' with the old guys is a total and sublime blast. Two democrats and a rino, but all are honest and opinionated and she brings out the best in all. I think when she does the Outnumbered show she does the same. Of all the foxbabes, I think she is my favorite.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 20, 2016 01:57 PM (MIKMs)

228 Hey, look at it this way. With me thumbing my nose at Scalia's funeral, you rubes won't have to put up with the camera panning my resting bitch face of disdain.

Posted by: The Great Uniter at February 20, 2016 01:57 PM (Dwehj)

229 Speaking of kittehz, there's a pet thread up.

Posted by: logprof at February 20, 2016 01:58 PM (7ESCG)

230 btw, a Homily is supposed to relate the OT, Epistle, and Gospel readings to our modern lives. When a clergyperson deviates from that, it is a disservice to the flock.

A Sermon can be whatever the person wants to preach about.

Thank you for letting me vent.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 20, 2016 01:59 PM (1ijHg)

231 Watching her wrangle the cats on 'Political Insiders' with the old guys is a total and sublime blast. Two democrats and a rino, but all are honest and opinionated and she brings out the best in all. I think when she does the Outnumbered show she does the same. Of all the foxbabes, I think she is my favorite.

Posted by: mustbequantum

--Special edition of Outnumbered on now. Harris is on.

Posted by: logprof at February 20, 2016 01:59 PM (7ESCG)

232 "Jesus, Son of God, Thank you!"

I changed the ending of an ancient contemplative prayer.

I like it better this way.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 20, 2016 02:02 PM (1ijHg)

233 Sermons are supposed to relate to Scripture and our life as christian. It depends on the tradition, Some are lectionary preachers; Some are not. I tend to be a lectionary preacher. A eulogy is not the same as a homily. I haven't watched it yet so i don't know what Fr, Scalia did.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2016 02:02 PM (w4NZ8)

234 The purpose of preaching is to preach Christ, through the scriptures. This will necessarily apply to your life, but He should be the focus, not us.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 20, 2016 02:17 PM (39g3+)

235 It seems critical to the Christian belief that
people don't think he went weak and felt God left him. He recognized to
the end, what his mission was.

I think the "why hast though
forsaken me" has to be a corruption since so many get the wrong message
from it. And while I don't believe texts are perfect, I think the
concept is still important.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 20, 2016 01:56 PM (eUbDe)

I don't know what tradition you come from but Baptists take that quite literally (see here for the words of Billy Graham on this subject: http://tinyurl.com/gs5gjan).

Jesus was both fully God and fully man. He was not weak... He was literally ripped out of communion with God at the moment He took all of our punishments. From my perspective, what is critical to Christian faith is that we understand exactly what a great sacrifice it was for Jesus to not only die in body for us but to also die in spirit as He took on our well earned rejection and separation.

I don't know if you know it, but there is a Celtic hymn that we frequently hear or sing either during Good Friday services or Easter services (or both). Its called "Lord of the Dance" (http://celtic-lyrics.com/lyrics/309.html)... the lines that always stick with me are "I danced on a Friday when the world turned black--- It's hard to dance with the Devil on your back". It has always inspired limitless awe in me that Jesus took the Devil and Hell onto himself so that I never have to.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 20, 2016 02:23 PM (NPofj)

236 redbanzai, I'm just saying he never doubted ... trust in God with all your heart soul mind strength ... JC did, till the very end. Doubt would have been the beginning of unbelief.

"He was literally ripped out of communion with God at the moment He took all of our punishments"

I don't know where you get that. But I hate to argue with a Bible believer, for me it is academic. But the important philosophical point to me is that people see their higher power as good, not a punisher or forsaker. The "why hast thou forsaken me" thing sometimes ties in with the "God is testing me", as if God also makes us suffer. But that gets more complicated.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 20, 2016 02:35 PM (eUbDe)

237 Our lives are to be focused on the pioneer and perfecter of our faith-Jesus- so one can't be a Christocentric preacher without having Jesus be at the heart of the message and. Sorry if i didn't make that clear.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2016 02:42 PM (w4NZ8)

238 I like that hymn"-Lord of the dance."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2016 02:43 PM (w4NZ8)

239 Jesus was quoting the psalms.

Was he in despair? Did he doubt?

If I see him face to face, I will be so overjoyed. I will not ask Him.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 20, 2016 02:56 PM (1ijHg)

240 Grampa-I_ think there are any number of things we debate and argue about here that won't matter when we see Jesus face to face. :^) I can argue with the best arguers-not because I'm highly skilled- but because I could have an opinion about lots of things, but as I get older they seem less and less important to me-religiously speaking. I mean, if people love Jesus and accept him as the risen Savior and Lord and desire to follow him, who am I to argue if they see things theologically a little different than I do.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2016 03:03 PM (w4NZ8)

241 I'd rather he stayed away. We all know what Obama thought of Scalia so why bother going through the motions to pretend he is sad to see Scalia dead??

Why bother pretending he had anything but contempt for not just the man's ideals, but his very existence as well?

Would you want to see pictures of TEH ONE flipping off the priest performing the service?? That middle finger prominently displayed along side his nose as he listens so reverently????

The faster he (Obama) is gone from day to day coverage the better.

Posted by: Talon at February 20, 2016 03:11 PM (7pVXE)

242 Thunder B said there's a very nice article written by one of the Scalia sons on the Weasel Zippers site and indeed it is.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 20, 2016 03:16 PM (w4NZ8)

243 It sure puts those years sitting in another pew and listening to a stream of hatred into new light doesn't it?

Posted by: Clive at February 20, 2016 08:21 PM (wHhis)

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