Overnight Open Thread (12 Feb 2016)

SMOD can't get here soon enough. Millenials prefer socialism over capitalism. Do they really look at Venezuela and think, man that is awesome! Are they wishing they had a big scoop of that here? Instapundit writes that support for Sanders may not mean full throated support for Socialism, just a search for something different.

the enthusiasm for Sanders may be as much a search for something different as it is an endorsement of Sanders' 1930s-era economic views. Given the failure of the two party establishments, it's not entirely surprising that young people are looking elsewhere.

This foray into socialism won't end well (it never does) when you factor in possible amnesty for folks that have fled socialist leaning countries and you don't try to Americanize them.

Climate Change

I think this ArsTechnica author would better understand why there is uneven education on climate change if she knew that the 97% scientist consensus (or 95% as she states) is BS and that most of their climate doom predictions fail. Maybe you can't get consensus on teaching this crap because it's all about profit and not science.

IllumiBowl

So is this something? I don't know. I like the challenge of aiming in the dark.

Stunt Double

Daisy Ridley's stunt double is pretty good.

Aviation Story

Here's how a KC-135 Stratotanker aircrew saved an F-16 Falcon pilot from ejecting over ISIL territory. I shudder to think of what would've happened if he had to bail out.

Cyber Defenses

So much for the pivot on cyber defense. Lawmakers unnerved by reports of new cyber breaches.

Adblock Plus

If you are running ABP, you might want to check your settings and opt out of their approved whitelist filter.

Time Capsule

Heh. Futuristic concept cars of the 1970-80s.


Happiness Minister

I'm surprised Obama hasn't named a happiness czar although he does have all of the media to make up happy stories about his administration and the direction this country is headed. Meet the UAE's first happiness minister. I had no idea this was a billet out there in the world. The Venezuela vice ministry of supreme social happiness has pretty much failed.

Selfies

The countries with the most selfie-related deaths.

Dog Video

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1 Foist?

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 12, 2016 10:02 PM (CbHz4)

2 Poll: Millennials Pick Socialism Over Capitalism





That's because the idiots have been told that socialism makes everything fair and safe for them and they are dumb enough to believe it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2016 10:03 PM (45oDG)

3 Free Speech is Now Racist

Apparently freedom of speech is a tool of "White Supremacy", and only by silencing incorrect speech can people become free... to blindly agree with hard Left racial bigotry.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=10979

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 12, 2016 10:04 PM (vBeA5)

4 Foist by your own Picard?

Posted by: Anachronda at February 12, 2016 10:04 PM (8yJ7M)

5 95% of selected scientists agree - global warming needs more grants to study.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 12, 2016 10:04 PM (T78UI)

6 Woot woot ONT

Looks good CDR M

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 12, 2016 10:04 PM (voOPb)

7 I am about to brave the Friday night crowds in Union Square in San Francisco to take clients out to dinner. See you some time later.....

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 12, 2016 10:06 PM (CbHz4)

8 You may have the capacity to love her, but it's measured in microFarads.

Posted by: derit at February 12, 2016 10:07 PM (OC+TJ)

9 Hey! Hey! R'lyeh!

Posted by: Fat Cthulhu at February 12, 2016 10:07 PM (EzgxV)

10 Hello Horde.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at February 12, 2016 10:07 PM (fOMps)

11 Bullshit.. they don't really even know what socialism is. Clueless fucking twits.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 12, 2016 10:07 PM (CNHr1)

12 I'm in a mood. Not a good one either. I am reminded of the George Strait song. I Hate Everything.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 12, 2016 10:08 PM (CNHr1)

13 Illuminated toilet
That's cool

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 12, 2016 10:08 PM (voOPb)

14 Young people love socialism because they've been taught since childhood how awesome bid daddy government is.

I was an adult before I realized that FDR was not, as sold, the best president ever in the history of ever.

Posted by: Lauren at February 12, 2016 10:09 PM (0C2f1)

15 Socialism sounds great, until you learn about every time it has ever been tried in the history of man.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 12, 2016 10:09 PM (iHjB5)

16 Evil Mad Scientist Valentines

I'll orthogonalize your vectors to do a Taylor series expansion around your origins, IYKWIMAITTYD

Posted by: The Scientific Hat at February 12, 2016 10:09 PM (vBeA5)

17 hi all
to be honest, I think part of the millennial favoritism towards socialism is rooted in some unconscious racism

they want "white people socialism" (i.e. Denmark) but not "brown people socialism" (i.e. Venezuela) because they don't think that is "real socialism"

Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 12, 2016 10:09 PM (uZNvH)

18 The KC-136 link is broken

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 12, 2016 10:10 PM (UpGcq)

19 Pic of gay ballet dog first.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 12, 2016 10:10 PM (hVdx9)

20 Millenials prefer socialism over capitalism. Do they really look at Venezuela and think, man that is awesome!

The problems in Venezuela are because of the capitalists and the bankers, man.

Posted by: every leftist on the Internet, ever at February 12, 2016 10:10 PM (jV8Mq)

21 KC-135.. oops.. still broken

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 12, 2016 10:11 PM (UpGcq)

22 If you don't love dogs, you have no f*cking soul.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 12, 2016 10:11 PM (hVdx9)

23 Hoooooooorde


Well fuck me. I'm in Savannah because my daughters' have a cheer comp tomorrow. It's Valentine's weekend. Which means I'm paying a ridiculous amount for an average hotel room. And the wifi sucks.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 12, 2016 10:11 PM (8mbVu)

24 She's very talented. I'd like to spar with her.

Posted by: ryukyu at February 12, 2016 10:11 PM (FuBZa)

25 they want "white people socialism" (i.e. Denmark) but not "brown people socialism" (i.e. Venezuela) because they don't think that is "real socialism"

Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 12, 2016 10:09 PM (uZNvH)




Even white people socialism sucks. It's soul crushing unless you're a waste of flesh that just wants to be fed and changed your whole life. Oh..so that's why they like it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2016 10:12 PM (45oDG)

26 Evenin' , Horde. What're we drinking tonight?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 12, 2016 10:12 PM (Q7bO0)

27 Corgi!

Posted by: garrett at February 12, 2016 10:13 PM (91LL3)

28 Okay, ya'll, Misanthropic Humanitarian will be featuring a new weekend post, Mostly Doggeh and Token Affrimative Acftion Kitteh post. Look for it this weekend or next.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 12, 2016 10:13 PM (2x3L+)

29 BCochran.. what kind of music do you like?

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 12, 2016 10:13 PM (CNHr1)

30 @26.. wine with a tequila chaser.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 12, 2016 10:14 PM (CNHr1)

31 Free Speech is Now Racist

Apparently freedom of speech is a tool of "White Supremacy", and only by silencing incorrect speech can people become free... to blindly agree with hard Left racial bigotry.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=10979

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 12, 2016 10:04 PM (vBeA5)



What a cretin. No wonder why Comrade Bernie is so popular.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2016 10:14 PM (45oDG)

32 "It's soul crushing unless you're a waste of flesh that just wants to be fed and changed your whole life. Oh..so that's why they like it"

Well the problem is that in Obama's economy so many young people aren't working and are living at home and they see no path to prosperity so they aspire to free shit to take care of them.

Posted by: Lauren at February 12, 2016 10:14 PM (0C2f1)

33 Hoooooooorde



Well fuck me. I'm in Savannah because my daughters' have a cheer
comp tomorrow. It's Valentine's weekend. Which means I'm paying a
ridiculous amount for an average hotel room. And the wifi sucks.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 12, 2016 10:11 PM


My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 12, 2016 10:14 PM (Q7bO0)

34 Bioshock Infinite was a flawed game, but the covers of some of the songs were pretty good. For some reason the steam organ cover of "Girls just want to have fun" sounds really good to me.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 12, 2016 10:14 PM (iHjB5)

35 29 BCochran.. what kind of music do you like?
Posted by: Jewells45 at February 12, 2016 10:13 PM (CNHr1)



If it's got a good beat, I'll listen to about anything. But my go to is rock.

I'm a child of the 80s, so a heavy beat from the drums and a screaming guitar gets me going.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 12, 2016 10:15 PM (8mbVu)

36 Hey everybody.

Welp, Valentine's weekend again. The one time of year men don't have to feel weird about buying condoms in bulk.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 12, 2016 10:15 PM (ntObR)

37 And the wifi sucks.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 12, 2016 10:11 PM (8mbVu)

you might want to clarify that last part.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at February 12, 2016 10:15 PM (0O7c5)

38 Stunt double is hot.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 12, 2016 10:15 PM (hVdx9)

39 Yes, all the youngsters dashed away from former Congressman Paul's libertarianism to socialism in less than 8 years. Quite the accomplishment for our educational system. They move so fast, it's a wonder the island don't tip over.


Posted by: huerfano at February 12, 2016 10:16 PM (NSb9d)

40 As a pundit noted, millenials want socialism with out the police state.

Which is impossible.

Remember, this generation is the one fully immersed in socialism and the erasure of individualism from the time they were in diapers. They have been coddled , protected, the government has set rules and regulations that they are told are good for them and has impacted every corner of their life. From school, to church, to the boys scouts, socialism and leftist thought has been taught, preached and reinforced. This is the generation that received participation trophies, that have been drugged into a stupor with ritalin, who have been told that boys are girls and girls are boys and being gay is awesome,etc. They have a higher chance than not to have been raised in an all female household with a single mom with much help from the government, who they think they couldn't have lived without. They more than likely have never had a summer or after school job and likely never worked in college. They have no idea of what it actually takes to be successful because they haven't been allowed to fail.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 12, 2016 10:16 PM (K0Iz7)

41 My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 12, 2016 10:14 PM (Q7bO0)



Already ahead of you. Got checked in. The wife and girls were in bed by a little after 9. I got in the shower with the water as hot as I could stand and the bottle sitting on the edge of the tub.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 12, 2016 10:16 PM (8mbVu)

42 Damn it Feels Good to Be a Canksta.

Posted by: HRC at February 12, 2016 10:16 PM (JwLCI)

43 I'm repelled and fascinated by Trump. I know I should go for Cruz but it's as if Trump has the ability to hypnotize me, sorta like a vampire.

Posted by: mpfs at February 12, 2016 10:16 PM (SlFyt)

44 you might want to clarify that last part.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at February 12, 2016 10:15 PM (0O7c5)



It's very very slow.

DL and UL speeds of about 1.5mbps.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 12, 2016 10:17 PM (8mbVu)

45 Chen Jeff. That is totally brilliant

Posted by: ThunderB at February 12, 2016 10:17 PM (zOTsN)

46 I would drink heavily, but my employer frowns on me puking into garbage cans.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 12, 2016 10:17 PM (hVdx9)

47 Daisy Ridley's stunt double is pretty good.

BRB.

Posted by: rickl at February 12, 2016 10:18 PM (sdi6R)

48 Daisy Ridley's stunt double is pretty good.

BRB.

Posted by: rickl
****

More staff trick practice...

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 12, 2016 10:19 PM (hVdx9)

49 New Postmodern Jukebox is up with one of their repeat singers, but she's looking very sexy in the dress. Along with lovely tapdancers, one that heavily reminds me of Morena Baccarin.


https://youtu.be/PgupfwUeXYY

Posted by: buzzion at February 12, 2016 10:19 PM (zt+N6)

50 Looks like our betters can't keep anything safe from hackers.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 12, 2016 10:20 PM (voOPb)

51 It's very very slow.



DL and UL speeds of about 1.5mbps.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 12, 2016 10:17 PM (8mbVu)
i think it went over your head.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at February 12, 2016 10:20 PM (0O7c5)

52 There was a girl from my home town who could do all the same twirler tricks that girl does, but with a shorter baton and fire.

Posted by: huerfano at February 12, 2016 10:21 PM (NSb9d)

53 **Top 5 Things qdpsteve Will Be Doing This Valentine's Weekend**

5. Drowning his sorrows in Chick-Fil-A sweet tea

4. Shoving all-in at the Hawaiian Gardens no-limit hold'em poker tables with 7-3 offsuit because nothing really matters anyway

3. Getting blocked by Monica Lewinsky at Twitter

2. Hangin' 'round the hosiery section at Macys for no particular reason

1. Making saltpeter chili

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 12, 2016 10:21 PM (ntObR)

54 @34 I bought "Bioshock: Infinite" for $1, played it for about 2 hours, and dropped it for something else (Guacamele, I think). The whole plot was so incredibly asinine (though it seemed very much as though it wanted to be taken seriously) as to be insulting. I guess I didn't get far enough to encounter the Cyndi Lauper cover.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at February 12, 2016 10:21 PM (jV8Mq)

55 Millennials are so poorly educated (history, economics, politics), they would actually SAY they prefer socialism. They don't know shit. Literally, they know NOTHING.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 12, 2016 10:22 PM (U+nHb)

56 Posted by: buzzion>>>

Is it odd I find her double hot because she is doing old timey music?

Posted by: Willy J. at February 12, 2016 10:22 PM (Nkdwp)

57 Daisy Ridley's stunt double is pretty good.

The great fight choreography from the prequels kind of burned me out. It was something a buddy and I talked about after seeing Phantom Menace. They managed to rob the fights of their impact.

One of the things I was really hoping from from the new movies was a much more visceral sense of threat and brutality from the fight scenes. The prequels had the feel of ballet, where they are "acting out" a fight. So far, so good there.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 12, 2016 10:23 PM (iHjB5)

58 I'm liking Ms. Bruce. Anybody know her primary martial art? A good bit of that looks like TKD, especially her staff work.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 12, 2016 10:23 PM (kpqmD)

59 BCochran...a man after my heart .. if you can, go to youtube and check out Shinedown. Good ole rock baby and they are awesome. Another good band is Adelitas Way. Newest song is Bad Reputation. Enjoy!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 12, 2016 10:24 PM (CNHr1)

60 Evening everyone! I'm trying to decide if it's worth it to put on pants and go out for a drink.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 12, 2016 10:24 PM (fC9RO)

61 34 Bioshock Infinite was a flawed game, but the covers of some of the songs were pretty good. For some reason the steam organ cover of "Girls just want to have fun" sounds really good to me.


Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 12, 2016 10:14 PM (iHjB5)



HAHA. That connects to my last comment. Scott Bradlee of Post Modern Jukebox created that arrangement of Girls Just Want To Have Fun for that game.

https://youtu.be/5CPbg9ljE4M Robyn Adele Anderson singing.

Posted by: buzzion at February 12, 2016 10:24 PM (zt+N6)

62 i think it went over your head.......
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at February 12, 2016 10:20 PM (0O7c5)


Impossible. Nothing would go over my head. My reflexes are too fast. I would catch it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 12, 2016 10:24 PM (8mbVu)

63 Trump is hot. He is my all or nothing man. If he does what he says America will be great again. If reenacts his corporatist past it will burn.

Posted by: Sofia Toronjas at February 12, 2016 10:25 PM (j8uQ3)

64 59 BCochran...a man after my heart .. if you can, go to youtube and check out Shinedown. Good ole rock baby and they are awesome. Another good band is Adelitas Way. Newest song is Bad Reputation. Enjoy!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 12, 2016 10:24 PM (CNHr1)



I've been a Shinedown fan for years. They're from my hometown of Jacksonville. I saw them a few years ago in concert. They kicked off their Carnival of Madness Tour in Jacksonville. Most excellent. And yeah, Adelitas Way is very good as well.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 12, 2016 10:26 PM (8mbVu)

65 Venezuela?

Posted by: Millenial at February 12, 2016 10:26 PM (r5IMY)

66 42 Damn it Feels Good to Be a Canksta.
Posted by: HRC at February 12, 2016 10:16 PM (JwLCI)

First lol of the night.

Posted by: ryukyu at February 12, 2016 10:26 PM (FuBZa)

67 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQheaCpjH0I

A link to the Steam organ cover of Cyndi Lauper.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 12, 2016 10:27 PM (iHjB5)

68 Wait I need to correct that. Scott Bradlee did arrangements for some other songs in the game, Girls Just Wanna Have Fun was done by the music supervisor of the game. But still, Robyn singing and swaying is always sexy.

Posted by: buzzion at February 12, 2016 10:28 PM (zt+N6)

69 I'm in a mood. Not a good one either. I am reminded of the George Strait song. I Hate Everything.
Posted by: Jewells45 at February 12, 2016 10:08 PM (CNHr1)


I had a pretty good day today. I can tell when I am in a good mood because I start wondering things, like today, if a Wankel rotary engine design could be retrofitted to be used as a pump.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 12, 2016 10:28 PM (q2o38)

70 Miles Davis actually covered Cyndi Lauper's ballad "Time After Time."

Some real talent Cyndi had, at least in the beginning.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 12, 2016 10:28 PM (ntObR)

71 I was reading some more details about LIGO's gravitational radiation discovery. Now that they've been empirically observed, we can say we now have the most "energetic" process, in the sense of "conversion of mass to energy" known in the universe.

Some will say this "proves the existence of black holes". Well it proves that two very massive objects spiraled into each other and only black holes could pack that much mass into such a small space to produce that kind of bust of gravitational radiation.

That merger converted about 3 solar masses of mass (well black hole mass) into energy in the form of gravitational radiation in a few milliseconds or so.

That blows away gamma ray bursts, and is the most energetic event known in the universe now.

If you happened to be close to such a burst of gravitational waves, say within solar system distances of it, the wave would be strong enough to rip you apart. That is the tidal forces across your body would be such that it would compress and alternative rip across you in two opposite directions such that you couldn't hold together.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at February 12, 2016 10:29 PM (dvuhZ)

72 That is the tidal forces across your body would be such that it would compress and alternative rip across you in two opposite directions such
that you couldn't hold together.


Pfft.

Posted by: Chuck Norris at February 12, 2016 10:31 PM (jWh67)

73 68 Wait I need to correct that. Scott Bradlee did arrangements for some other songs in the game, Girls Just Wanna Have Fun was done by the music supervisor of the game. But still, Robyn singing and swaying is always sexy.
Posted by: buzzion at February 12, 2016 10:28 PM (zt+N6)

I like it as well. Thanks for the link.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 12, 2016 10:31 PM (iHjB5)

74 @26.. wine with a tequila chaser.
Posted by: Jewells45 at February 12, 2016 10:14 PM

Coincidentally that's my poison of choice. Salude!

Posted by: Farmer at February 12, 2016 10:32 PM (o/90i)

75 Hello, ONT.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 12, 2016 10:32 PM (9ym/8)

76 Looks like the KC-135 link disappeared.

Posted by: CDR M at February 12, 2016 10:32 PM (SCx0h)

77 @60 I put pants on juuuuust long enough to procure beer without risk being arrested.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at February 12, 2016 10:34 PM (jV8Mq)

78 Hah! Love that doggie at the top. I'll dive into the rest of it in a moment, but first...

Howdy, classy nighttime people!

I have not put forth many mindful webworks in the past year, but now and then, I crank one out. When inspired or motivated.

One nice thing about being undiscovered and never going viral is, I don't have to deal with comments from crazies, on my site, or (especially) on YouTube.

I hope it stays that way, but I'm tempting the fates now with a new 20-second video.

Donald Trump is a Class Act
The question is, which class?
at mindfulwebworks.com:
http://bit.ly/trump-classy

Note there is a PayPal donation link in the upper corners of the webpage, whatever 20sec of vid is worth to ya.

Or, if you would rather go to YouTube for some reason
https://youtu.be/MJOF6EzqL9U

Well, self-promo's done. Now to see what CDR M and ye common taters have for me tonight.

Posted by: mindful webworker - I'm in trouble now! at February 12, 2016 10:34 PM (ACs58)

79 Posted by: qdpsteve at February 12, 2016 10:21 PM (ntObR)


Try hanging around outside of Lane Bryant instead of Macy's.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 12, 2016 10:34 PM (JO9+V)

80 56 Posted by: buzzion>>>

Is it odd I find her double hot because she is doing old timey music?


Posted by: Willy J. at February 12, 2016 10:22 PM (Nkdwp)



Of course not.

Posted by: buzzion at February 12, 2016 10:35 PM (zt+N6)

81 Anyone else watching Second Chance? I kinda like the fantasy of the old fart getting a perfect 30ish body.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 12, 2016 10:35 PM (Nkdwp)

82 Count, LOL. Good advice. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 12, 2016 10:35 PM (ntObR)

83 Looks like the KC-135 link disappeared.

If you do a search on the site for it, it says you have to download their app to view the content.

Posted by: this app requires access to your location, camera, keyboard, passwords and credit card info at February 12, 2016 10:36 PM (jWh67)

84 49: Sara Niemietz and she is lovely.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 12, 2016 10:36 PM (NGd+i)

85 -



If you happened to be close to such a burst of gravitational waves, say
within solar system distances of it, the wave would be strong enough to
rip you apart. That is the tidal forces across your body would be such
that it would compress and alternative rip across you in two opposite
directions such that you couldn't hold together.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at February 12, 2016 10:29 PM

--------------------------

Much like when your average lefty finds out that Ted Cruz is not Satan, then?

Posted by: irright at February 12, 2016 10:36 PM (DtNNC)

86 Howdy, classy nighttime people!

Where? Who let then in?! I want answers!

Posted by: Insomniac at February 12, 2016 10:37 PM (kpqmD)

87 Just as the USSR wasn't really full on communist, so is the USA not full on Capitalist.

It's government interference and bureaucratic sluggishness with a touch of red tape that makes neither of them a full experience of the type.

They're willing to give Socialism a shot because

1) they've never been taught what that really means
2) they've never have had experience capitalism
3) they've never had to pay for socialism
4) they've never received any benefit of capitalism
5) the education complex has fed them lies for all their lives
6) they're parents have failed.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 12, 2016 10:38 PM (Xo1Rt)

88 Well seems we have alot in common! I have seen Shinedown twice. First time was a Carnival of Madness tour and they fucking rocked the house. Second time was last August. It was a smaller venue and I had the chance to be right at the stage but backed off at the last minute. I got a little claustrophobic and was also worried about my back so stepped back to the next level. Still had a great view and I got to meet Barry and Zach after the concert. My next mission is to see Adalitas Way. Sadly they were here last night but I couldn't go

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 12, 2016 10:38 PM (CNHr1)

89 I'm surprised Obama hasn't named a happiness czar

Can we get a Life Czar and a Liberty Czar along with that? It's in the Declaration of Czar Dependence after all.

Posted by: mindful webworker - I'm in trouble now! at February 12, 2016 10:38 PM (ACs58)

90 I was reading some more details about LIGO's gravitational radiation discovery. Now that they've been empirically observed, we can say we now have the most "energetic" process, in the sense of "conversion of mass to energy" known in the universe.

Some will say this "proves the existence of black holes". Well it proves that two very massive objects spiraled into each other and only black holes could pack that much mass into such a small space to produce that kind of bust of gravitational radiation.

That merger converted about 3 solar masses of mass (well black hole mass) into energy in the form of gravitational radiation in a few milliseconds or so.

That blows away gamma ray bursts, and is the most energetic event known in the universe now.

If you happened to be close to such a burst of gravitational waves, say within solar system distances of it, the wave would be strong enough to rip you apart. That is the tidal forces across your body would be such that it would compress and alternative rip across you in two opposite directions such that you couldn't hold together.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)
****
Huh huh, you said blows.

Posted by: Dumb Ass at February 12, 2016 10:38 PM (hVdx9)

91 84 49: Sara Niemietz and she is lovely.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 12, 2016 10:36 PM (NGd+i)



Yeah. Her voice I find unique. She's done several songs with them before and usually I've been "meh." She does "Bad Romance" very well though. She wears that dress very well too.

Posted by: buzzion at February 12, 2016 10:38 PM (zt+N6)

92 49 New Postmodern Jukebox is up with one of their repeat singers, but she's looking very sexy in the dress. Along with lovely tapdancers, one that heavily reminds me of Morena Baccarin.


https://youtu.be/PgupfwUeXYY
Posted by: buzzion at February 12, 2016 10:19 PM (zt+N6)


Yes, I could envision a foursome...

Back to reality, they've been doing a lot of tap dancing lately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3Hrn2_LxDs

Posted by: rickl at February 12, 2016 10:39 PM (sdi6R)

93 Farmer... tipping my shot glass to you! SALUTE!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 12, 2016 10:39 PM (CNHr1)

94 Well fuck me. I'm in Savannah because my daughters' have a cheer comp tomorrow. It's Valentine's weekend. Which means I'm paying a ridiculous amount for an average hotel room. And the wifi sucks.
Posted by: BC
---------------

Should have booked a room at Chez D'oh.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 12, 2016 10:39 PM (yddCj)

95 OMG did the KC-135 auger in?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 12, 2016 10:40 PM (yddCj)

96 OMG did the KC-135 auger in?

Posted by: Mike Hammer,
****

It ran out of fuel? Ooooo, irony.

Posted by: Dumb Ass at February 12, 2016 10:41 PM (hVdx9)

97 Well fuck me. I'm in Savannah because my daughters' have a cheer comp tomorrow.

I thought that said "cheer coup" at first glance. I'll leave it to the rest of you to figure out what that might be like.

Posted by: Josephistan at February 12, 2016 10:41 PM (7qAYi)

98 >>>Here's how a KC-135 Stratotanker aircrew saved an F-16 Falcon pilot from ejecting over ISIL territory.

The link goes to a "Page not found" page. Searching at the site for "stratotanker" brings up the a search result with the same link, but also the following:

Please download our app to access this content.

No mention of what app or why I would need an app to look at a webpage on my PC.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 12, 2016 10:42 PM (R+30W)

99 >>>87
4) they've never received any benefit of capitalism

5 out of 6 ain't bad

The little bastards are spoiled from the spoils of capitalism. Every day they have benefited from capitalism from their immunizations as babies to their damn iPhones

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 12, 2016 10:42 PM (voOPb)

100 Splashed myself with hot oil yesterday. Didn't hurt at first but that changed quick.

Doesn't hurt today but it looks like early onset plague.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 12, 2016 10:42 PM (wCF3s)

101 Posted by: Jewells45 at February 12, 2016 10:38 PM (CNHr1)



http://tinypic.com/r/5n8489/9

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 12, 2016 10:42 PM (8mbVu)

102 "Please download our app to access this content."

Sorry, I am not a fan of app.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 12, 2016 10:43 PM (hVdx9)

103 Saw Deadpool. That was a funny movie. I am guessing there were some pieces of fan service that you had to know, but it stood alone.

Not a kid movie. But people brought them anyway. Dumbasses. C

Posted by: blaster at February 12, 2016 10:43 PM (2Ocf1)

104 The people who love the illumi bowl are probably mostly women.

They think that splashes where they're not wanted is because of poor aim.

They have no idea of how unpredictable it is for someone to squirt liquid through an oval flat tube lined with mucosa cells whose sides may or may not stick together at one point in that tube or another. And the stream pressure itself can also disturb the actual landing spot.

When they're using those prosthesis in health class to show men what it's like to be pregnant, they ought to have a similar setup to show women how tricky and unpredictable it can be to aim that stream of liquid through that flexible tube (which btw also can be shorter or longer than usual).

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 12, 2016 10:43 PM (Xo1Rt)

105 91: Hm, I've seen several PMJ covers with Sara Niemietz and I think they're fantastic.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 12, 2016 10:44 PM (NGd+i)

106 Splashed myself with hot oil yesterday. Didn't hurt at first but that changed quick.

Doesn't hurt today but it looks like early onset plague.


Posted by: weft cut-loop
****

Never pegged you for a masochist, but to each their own.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 12, 2016 10:44 PM (hVdx9)

107 Bad link for the KC 135/F-16 story.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 12, 2016 10:44 PM (Xo1Rt)

108 Poll: Millennials Pick Socialism Over Capitalism

I believe the actual question posed was, "Would you rather be abandoned in a dangerous city during wartime or have an all-knowing, all-caring group of enlightened beings see to your every desire?"

Posted by: t-bird at February 12, 2016 10:44 PM (Z58Xa)

109 Bitter Clinger, I have found women tend to "splash" more than the men. Of course we get the blame.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 12, 2016 10:45 PM (hVdx9)

110 link to KC-135 story: http://tinyurl.com/guw7lwb

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 12, 2016 10:45 PM (yddCj)

111 Never pegged you for a masochist, but to each their own.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale


Oil vey...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 12, 2016 10:45 PM (wCF3s)

112 Anybody else hear about the CEO (I think he's the CEO) of Panera Bread, asking customers not to bring guns into their stores?

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 12, 2016 10:45 PM (ntObR)

113 How to explain socialism to a millennial. Ask if they want grades to be socialized with A students getting B's so D's can be brought up to Cs and Cs to B+ grades. If they work for grades at all and have ever been in group projects they should be able to relate that it becomes not worth it to chase an A with any extra effort, but then the whole class average is going to go lower with each assignment. I didn't come up with this but its a good idea.

Posted by: PaleRider at February 12, 2016 10:46 PM (dkExz)

114 Never pegged you for a masochist, but to each their own.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale

Oil vey...



Posted by: weft cut-loop
****

Oooo, that burns.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 12, 2016 10:46 PM (hVdx9)

115 Blaster, it's rated R you would think that would be a clue, even to dumbasses.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 12, 2016 10:47 PM (U+nHb)

116 Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 12, 2016 10:43 PM (Xo1Rt)

I always wanted a urinal in our bathrooms. Space wise it never worked out

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 12, 2016 10:47 PM (voOPb)

117 Regarding modern Americans' knowledge of socialism...

Mark Dice gets folks to sign a petition endorsing Hillary Clinton's choice of Karl Marx as a running mate.
https://youtu.be/jPob5-_EAmc

Meanwhile the model socialist people's paradise of Venezuela has run into a tiny little minor glitch - they've run out of food.
Breitbart
http://bit.ly/1oc4y7a

Posted by: mindful webworker - but it's social! at February 12, 2016 10:49 PM (ACs58)

118 "Not a kid movie. But people brought them anyway. Dumbasses."

Yeah I don't get that. My kids know who deadpool is because he's a character in Lego Marvel Superheros (a PG version, obviously)

They know he has a movie and asked if we could see it.

"Nope, it's too scary for kids sorry."

The end. How f'ing hard is that other parents of the world?

Posted by: Lauren at February 12, 2016 10:49 PM (0C2f1)

119 @115. You would think. But here's the thing about dumbasses: they're dumbasses.

Posted by: blaster at February 12, 2016 10:50 PM (2Ocf1)

120 Oooo, that burns.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale


Mebbe i'll wok around the bok tonight.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 12, 2016 10:50 PM (wCF3s)

121 "I always wanted a urinal in our bathrooms. Space wise it never worked out"


Me too. I thought they'd be great around the house.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 12, 2016 10:50 PM (9ym/8)

122 I read about the adblock conference but I didn't know they were already passing crap through without me knowing.

I just unchecked that check box.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 12, 2016 10:51 PM (Xo1Rt)

123 "I always wanted a urinal in our bathrooms. Space wise it never worked out"
--------------

Were I to build a house, urinal in every bathroom.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 12, 2016 10:51 PM (yddCj)

124 Adblock Edge covers ABP.


Posted by: Sofia Toronjas at February 12, 2016 10:52 PM (j8uQ3)

125 yeah

chocolates

flowers

shiny things

Posted by: eman at February 12, 2016 10:53 PM (MQEz6)

126 Even white people socialism sucks. It's soul
crushing unless you're a waste of flesh that just wants to be fed and
changed your whole life. Oh..so that's why they like it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2016 10:12 PM (45oDG)

Explains how in Obamaland a 25 year old could still a "child" under a parent's health care.

Posted by: gracepc at February 12, 2016 10:53 PM (OU4q6)

127 Whew.

At least it's not another Longcat.

Off the read the comments.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at February 12, 2016 10:53 PM (rJUlF)

128 Poll: Millennials Pick Socialism Over Capitalism>>>

We have finally hit the I would rather be given than earn point.

I wonder if they would change their answer if it was phrased that way.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 12, 2016 10:53 PM (Nkdwp)

129 Was using some carb cleaner the other day to clean an IAC valve.
I have used the stuff before, but it's been a while. I guess it's been reformulated.
With in 60 seconds or less, the various parts of my arm where the back-splatter hit, started burning intensely. Nasty stuff.
Good thing I won't be having kids. With all the caustic chemical exposure (including lots of Hoppes) my kids would have 3 eyes and 4 arms.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 12, 2016 10:53 PM (hVdx9)

130 Those hipster douchebags know that free shit is finger-lickin' good.

Posted by: Colonel Bernie Sanders at February 12, 2016 10:54 PM (Dwehj)

131 117
Meanwhile the model socialist people's paradise of Venezuela has run into a tiny little minor glitch - they've run out of food.

Posted by: mindful webworker - but it's social! at February 12, 2016 10:49 PM (ACs5


Sounds like a self-correcting problem.

Posted by: rickl at February 12, 2016 10:54 PM (sdi6R)

132
The little bastards are spoiled from the spoils of capitalism. Every day they have benefited from capitalism from their immunizations as babies to their damn iPhones

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 12, 2016 10:42 PM (voOPb)

They do not understand TANSTAAFL..

They see the Fed Gov constantly printing money, and think that debt does not mean anything.

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 12, 2016 10:54 PM (f7rv6)

133 BCochran.. I love their story too. Brent was a mess. Drug addiction, alchoholism. But his girlfriend got him back on track. He cleaned himself up and he is better than ever. In fact he says the song on their newest album, Dangerous, is about how she found him on the floor of his kitchen one day, hungover, a complete mess. She said you are better than this. When you are sober and you are track you are dangerous, meaning, you can be and do whatever you want to do because you are focused. It's my favorite song right now. Well.. enough.. I'm sure you all have better things to talk about. I'm off to bed to enjoy my last decent weekend for awhile. Stay safe morons.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 12, 2016 10:55 PM (CNHr1)

134 I've always wanted a urinal in my garage. But it costs so much more than bushes and the plumbing would freeze.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 12, 2016 10:56 PM (Nkdwp)

135 "If you do a search on the site for it, it says you have to download their app to view the content."

Snort. Yeah, I'll get right on that.

The not-feeling-good KC-135 story from recent years is about the bird which broke up in flight, with the loss of the entire crew. It's almost as though flying jets in the 21st century whose purchasing began in the Eisenhower administration is hazardous to life and limb, but we all know that can't possibly be true.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 12, 2016 10:57 PM (noWW6)

136 Will the illumibowl fit on a squatty potty?

Posted by: Larry King at February 12, 2016 10:57 PM (FkBIv)

137 128. Oh I think Ayn got it correct when she wrote that most people think getting a piece of the most gifted person's salary added to theirs sounds good.

People need it gamed out/explained to them to realize they are not going to end up with their salary + a piece of Peyton Mannings earnings, they are going to end up having a couple Uncle Joes ala Petticoat Junction, living off of their efforts.

Posted by: PaleRider at February 12, 2016 10:57 PM (dkExz)

138
129 Using carb cleaner on fuel injection parts can screw up their special coatings. Always use throttle body and air intake cleaner instead.
And yes a Wankel engine could be used as a pump

Posted by: MAx at February 12, 2016 10:59 PM (LAliD)

139 Illumibowl:

"Dude, if I did this, I would tell you! I would be, like, almost proud of this!" - Hank Venture

Posted by: TB at February 12, 2016 10:59 PM (UXEYz)

140 I sit down to pee in the middle of the night anyway. I have a rock hard boner when I wake up to piss. Trying to aim that is an exercise in futility to say the least.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at February 12, 2016 10:59 PM (dBmVV)

141 WAIT! Bcochran..Who is the other guy in that picture?

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 12, 2016 10:59 PM (CNHr1)

142 socialist people's paradise of Venezuela has run into a tiny little minor glitch - they've run out of food.

Not by a long shot.

Posted by: The Donner Party at February 12, 2016 11:00 PM (J3phO)

143 Will the illumibowl fit on a squatty potty?


Posted by: Larry King
****

Yes, but it attracts rapey bears.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 12, 2016 11:01 PM (hVdx9)

144 They have no idea of what it actually takes to be successful because they haven't been allowed to fail.


Posted by: Jen the original at February 12, 2016 10:16 PM (K0Iz7)

And they've also not been allowed to succeed on their own.

There is not drug more intoxicating than being the best at something or winning a contest or overcoming an obstacle.

Too many kids have been over protected and micromanaged.

I point to the mothers who are still pushing their 4 and old BOYS AND GIRLS around in strollers.

The poor kids look like prisoners (because they are)

Under stimulation leads to boredom and lack of involvement not to mention the physical aspects of your child not exercising their new muscles and nerve pathways.

Stop pushing your kids around.

(good for a bumper sticker Heh?)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 12, 2016 11:01 PM (Xo1Rt)

145 the enthusiasm for Sanders may be as much a search for something different as it is an endorsement of Sanders' 1930s-era economic views.

Got here late, haven't read the comments, but I think we all know that a big part of the enthusiasm for Sanders is due to disgust with The Beast.

Also, millenials, and anyone else who thinks that our version of welfare/socialism is a good thing, should be told to go live in a neighborhood where two thirds of the people are receiving free shit from the taxpayers.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 12, 2016 11:01 PM (+lVUW)

146 The little bastards are spoiled from the spoils of capitalism. Every day they have benefited from capitalism from their immunizations as babies to their damn iPhones

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
------------------------

The great irony is that the main promoter is a guy who the American system has lifted from the son of a poor Polish immigrant, to a candidate for the most powerful position on the face of the earth. Any *rational* person would be singing praises to the system.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 12, 2016 11:02 PM (yddCj)

147 Urinal in every room.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 12, 2016 11:02 PM (kpqmD)

148 Using carb cleaner on fuel injection parts can screw up their special coatings. Always use throttle body and air intake cleaner instead.
And yes a Wankel engine could be used as a pump

Posted by: MAx
****

Whoops. That IS what I used. Just occurred to me that is why it was so nasty.
Different stuff.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 12, 2016 11:02 PM (hVdx9)

149 "It's almost as though flying jets in the 21st century whose purchasing began in the Eisenhower administration is hazardous to life and limb"


Well, it only took a near-decade to get KC-X awarded and those puppies should start rolling off the assembly line in the 4-5-6 years.

Got it covered.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 12, 2016 11:02 PM (9ym/8)

150 I have used the stuff before, but it's been a while. I guess it's been reformulated.

With in 60 seconds or less, the various parts of my arm where the back-splatter hit, started burning intensely.>>>

To save the ozone from CFCs they added base or acid. So instead of just drying your skin it burns it.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 12, 2016 11:03 PM (Nkdwp)

151 Mike Hammer #110: link to KC-135 story: http://tinyurl.com/guw7lwb

Nice. Thanks, Hammer.

Before that:

have to download their app to view the content.

Never. No. Never.

Posted by: mindful webworker - in app licable at February 12, 2016 11:03 PM (ACs58)

152 My favorite Cyndi Lauper song is a John Lennon cover, Working Class Hero. I don't like her bubblegum stuff, but she nails it with this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrwsUur6SfE

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 12, 2016 11:03 PM (R+30W)

153 I think the selfie related death thing is because high population urban areas area smack up against some really hazardous country/jungle/water areas.

Plus the vehicle traffic is enormous and being a 3rd world country in so many ways, drivers are very selfish and there is less cooperation than say like a 1st world country.

Respect for the law reaches all aspects of living.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 12, 2016 11:03 PM (Xo1Rt)

154 Just noticed that PBS's Judy Woodruff (who has contributed to the Clinton Foundation) insinuated that the taking money from Soros was just like Republicans taking money from the Kochs. Woodruff just *had* to mention the Kochs, as a yardstick of evil. One small problem, the Kochs have not contributed to anyone in the current race.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 12, 2016 11:05 PM (yddCj)

155 The last couple of years I have seen something new.
Grown men on those little razor scooters.
On the sidewalks.

Posted by: navybrat at February 12, 2016 11:06 PM (8QGte)

156 I think the selfie related death thing is because high population urban areas area smack up against some really hazardous country/jungle/water areas.
---------------

*imagines a last selfie, showing a stalking tiger in the background *

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 12, 2016 11:06 PM (yddCj)

157 Ok this is hilarious. Bernie Sanders is proposing raising the *tipped* minimum wage to $15/hour.

Yes. Really.

Posted by: Lauren at February 12, 2016 11:06 PM (3DIzJ)

158 "*imagines a last selfie, showing a stalking tiger in the background *:

Oh lord the selfie. I forgot that aspect from the etiquette tea that wasn't. One of the women trying to sell me shit at the table pulled out a freaking selfie stick while the manners woman was presenting.

Posted by: Lauren at February 12, 2016 11:08 PM (3DIzJ)

159 The last couple of years I have seen something new.
Grown men on those little razor scooters.
On the sidewalks.
Posted by: navybrat
-----------------

I see 20-something bearded hipsters with skateboards all of the time

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 12, 2016 11:08 PM (yddCj)

160 It's time to focus less on Obama's depredations and more on the Republican Party, which has supported him every step of the way.

Fuck the GOP.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 12, 2016 11:08 PM (u5gzz)

161 I know 20-somethings around here (southwest OK) who are big 1st and 2nd Amendment supporters, who hold down full-time jobs...yet still support Sanders. It all comes down to the "free" college and health care.

The cognitive dissonance amazes me.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at February 12, 2016 11:08 PM (rJUlF)

162 Poll: Millennials Pick Socialism Over Capitalism





That's because the idiots have been told that socialism makes everything fair and safe for them and they are dumb enough to believe it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2016 10:03 PM (45oDG)


That's because the yutes haven't accumulated any wealth or property yet. So taking from you is easy because they have nothing to take.

Posted by: RickZ at February 12, 2016 11:09 PM (Ix+HS)

163 Ok this is hilarious. Bernie Sanders is proposing raising the *tipped* minimum wage to $15/hour.
>>>

I am so happy these pricks weren't there to protect me from making money for beer in highschool.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 12, 2016 11:09 PM (Nkdwp)

164 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 12, 2016 11:02 PM (yddCj)

1st generation American and he failed

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 12, 2016 11:09 PM (voOPb)

165 157

If that ever passed, I'd stop tipping.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at February 12, 2016 11:09 PM (rJUlF)

166 "If that ever passed, I'd stop tipping."


Not a problem since restaurants would cease to exist.

Posted by: Lauren at February 12, 2016 11:10 PM (3DIzJ)

167 For truly romantic viewing you and your significant other are sure to enjoy this series from SciShow:

When Sex is Hard
https://youtu.be/VVojXv1lmMo

Where Does Love Come From?
https://youtu.be/gEFMya7zQKo

Do Humans Have Pheromones?
https://youtu.be/kqftxptfm7Y

Special Valentine Science!
https://youtu.be/i89Xhw_RwZg

Sure to win your honey's heart... or some organ...

Posted by: mindful webworker - it's SCIENCE! at February 12, 2016 11:11 PM (ACs58)

168 Farmer... tipping my shot glass to you! SALUTE!!
Posted by: Jewells45 at February 12, 2016 10:39 PM
Back at ya.

Isn't BC here? He should be up for a shot. If he brought the tekillya on the trip for daughter's dance deal.

BTW Has anyone seen ChicagoRefugee on here tonight?


Posted by: Farmer at February 12, 2016 11:11 PM (o/90i)

169 I see 20-something bearded hipsters with skateboards all of the time>>>

I'm gonna guess the fat chick and the moped joke doesn't work anymore.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 12, 2016 11:11 PM (Nkdwp)

170 To save the ozone from CFCs they added base or acid. So instead of just drying your skin it burns it.


Posted by: Willy J
****

Better than pepper spray. No joke.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 12, 2016 11:11 PM (hVdx9)

171 "If that ever passed, I'd stop tipping."


Seriously, that's the whole purpose of the tip. To make up the difference in their base pay. If it's now the same as a the checkout lady or the tire guy, I ain't tipping shit.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 12, 2016 11:12 PM (9ym/8)

172 *imagines a last selfie, showing a stalking tiger in the background *

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 12, 2016 11:06 PM (yddCj)

Something close to that has happened and been caught on tape (or whatever)

3 guys doing a selfie along side a tiger (loose) when suddenly the tiger decides that the nearest one looks tasty and grabs him and starts mauling him.

Luckily, his friends pried him away from the tiger.

Never saw how bad he got hurt if any.

Maybe I'm not a very adventuresome soul but I would NEVER be hanging around a carnivore that outweighed me. I don't care if I raised it from a baby.

That's just stupid in my view.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 12, 2016 11:12 PM (Xo1Rt)

173 Snowing... and 27 deg. here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 12, 2016 11:12 PM (yddCj)

174 Oh, say, I neglected to mention there's a language warning on my new 20sec video Donald Trump is a Class Act. Not safe for little children, the genteel, or American Presidents. ("Says who?" -Richard Nixon)

http://bit.ly/trump-classy

Posted by: mindful webworker - darn it to heck at February 12, 2016 11:13 PM (ACs58)

175 39 Yes, all the youngsters dashed away from former Congressman Paul's libertarianism to socialism in less than 8 years. Quite the accomplishment for our educational system. They move so fast, it's a wonder the island don't tip over.


Posted by: huerfano at February 12, 2016 10:16 PM (NSb9d)


They all want dope legalized.

Ron Paul was for it, they think Bernie will push for it.

Plus, they think Bernie will forgive their student loans.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper formerly MrCaniac at February 12, 2016 11:13 PM (Z7G74)

176 CW Jr. saw "Deadpool" tonight and loved it. He's a big fan of the character. He told me there were families bringing six and seven-year-olds to the show, and that he wanted to ask them, "What in the hell is wrong with you?"

I don't think I'll see it. I've liked most of the Marvel movies so far, but I'm not a Deadpool fan.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at February 12, 2016 11:15 PM (rJUlF)

177 I see 20-something bearded hipsters with skateboards all of the time

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 12, 2016 11:08 PM (yddCj)




I love when they skateboard down the middle of a street during rush hour traffic. It's a generation of self-absorbed immature twats. No wonder why they love Barry

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2016 11:15 PM (45oDG)

178 It all comes down to the "free" college and health care.


Good times too be had when they find out how expensive all that "free" shit is.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 12, 2016 11:15 PM (NGd+i)

179 162
That's because the yutes haven't accumulated any wealth or property yet. So taking from you is easy because they have nothing to take.
Posted by: RickZ at February 12, 2016 11:09 PM (Ix+HS)


And in this economy, they can't accumulate any wealth or property.

Feature, not a bug.

Posted by: rickl at February 12, 2016 11:15 PM (sdi6R)

180 Pot, free school and Doritos on EBT

Posted by: ThunderB at February 12, 2016 11:15 PM (zOTsN)

181 "Snowing... and 27 deg. here."



Mike, I'm beginning to think you moved to Minnesota and didn't tell anyone.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 12, 2016 11:15 PM (9ym/8)

182 >>"If that ever passed, I'd stop tipping."
Not a problem since restaurants would cease to exist.
Posted by: Lauren
---------
Some places are using the tablets at the table to order and the waitstaff are basically food runners. I have little interest in tipping those folks since I don't think they are providing me with much service, but the restaurant is paying them like they always have.

Posted by: Aviator at February 12, 2016 11:15 PM (c7vUv)

183 They all want dope legalized.

Ron Paul was for it, they think Bernie will push for it.

Plus, they think Bernie will forgive their student loans.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper formerly MrCaniac at February 12, 2016 11:13 PM (Z7G74)



Is he also going to force companies to hire people with a major in Womyn's Studies and a minor in Hate Whitey?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2016 11:16 PM (45oDG)

184 If everything is to be free why go to college at all?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 12, 2016 11:18 PM (FkBIv)

185 And in this economy, they can't accumulate any wealth or property.

Feature, not a bug.

Posted by: rickl at February 12, 2016 11:15 PM (sdi6R)




I work with a 20 something who said he'd vote for Bernie over most Republicans. Then a couple of days ago was telling me how most of his friends can't find jobs. They've got degrees from Northwestern and are working part time at a bar. There are no jobs out there. I'm sure they all voted for Barry maybe they should ask him where the jobs are.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2016 11:19 PM (45oDG)

186 I have met some intelligent millennials so let us not bash them all.
Have I met too many that were worth as much as a bucket of warm piss? Sigh, yes.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 12, 2016 11:20 PM (hVdx9)

187 Bioshock Infinite is so ham-fisted anti-racist that it completes the loop, right back around to offensively racist again. I hope the developers are having a laugh for making something offensive on an objective level, and keeping the SJW concern troll away from their company for a year or two. The first Bioshock was lauded as having deep moral questions, but this was also a pretentious reaction.

The music has been mentioned before. A barbershop quartet sings a song that you can't completely take out of the 1970s. Retro-cover are fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1i8QTOV20Y

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 12, 2016 11:20 PM (VdICR)

188 Tipping is a scam perpetuated by Restaurant owners so that they can pay their staff less money and more profit for them.

But it's also derived from the root cause of too many people getting stuff for less than it's worth due to distortions by government or custom and when they finally have to pay the actual price they go where they can still get the subsidized price.

Somebody's paying for that service somewhere along the line.

It's like the farmers whining that food will cost too much if they had to pay a decent wage.

But what about the price we're paying for all the turmoil and the coming loss of the American Culture due to the invasion of low cost workers enticed here by the wages? And who's paying for the unemployment of those thrown out of work?

Chicken DO come home to roost. Eventually.

And to many situations have been taking from the future to receive a benefit now. And NOW we're paying for that benefit.

It's why I said above that we've never really had a capitalist economy. We're closer than most other countries but we still have massive amounts of distortion of the market due to coops, cabals, monopolies, government interference.

The problem with capitalism is that it rewards the monopolist so everyone can either gain market share with an excellent product OR remove competition.

Guess which one is usually easier?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 12, 2016 11:20 PM (Xo1Rt)

189 And in this economy, they can't accumulate any wealth or property.

That's a sure sign you're not "Of The Party". I've got four phony jobs and all are high-paying.

Posted by: Huma at February 12, 2016 11:21 PM (J3phO)

190
If everything is to be free why go to college at all?>>>

So you have people to look down upon.

Like all the ones that make all you shit work. Plumbers. electricians, garbageman...

Posted by: Willy J. at February 12, 2016 11:21 PM (Nkdwp)

191 "http://bit.ly/trump-classy"


Nice.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 12, 2016 11:21 PM (9ym/8)

192 Ok this is hilarious. Bernie Sanders is proposing raising the *tipped* minimum wage to $15/hour.

You know what would happen to restaurants if you jacked up server costs like that?

The ones that didn't close would charge like $18 for a burger. It would look like movie theater prices.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 12, 2016 11:21 PM (39g3+)

193 184 If everything is to be free why go to college at all?


You can't get those 4 year degrees in Transgendered Korean Art anywhere, right?

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 12, 2016 11:22 PM (NGd+i)

194 just bingrd watched

last 007 movie,

and then watched emely in,

cosarico.....................

good movies'

Posted by: dan liwese at February 12, 2016 11:22 PM (AG7GB)

195 Heh. I have a temperature controller that I have wanted to use off and on for a couple of years. Problem: it uses Type J thermocouple wire. So, everytime I've been around one of my engineer buddies, I've asked if they have any Type J wire or sensors around their plant. No luck.

Today, I recalled that a couple of years ago I picked up a spool of thermocouple wire at the junkyard. Rummaged around in the base today and Voila! Found it, and it's Type J.

Three small miracles here, first, I remembered something from the dim past, second I actually found the stuff, third, it's the right wire.

Hoarding hourder scores!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 12, 2016 11:22 PM (yddCj)

196 have to download their app to view the content.

Never. No. Never.
Posted by: mindful webworker
-----------

Not at my link.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 12, 2016 11:23 PM (yddCj)

197 Tipping is a scam perpetuated by Restaurant owners so that they can pay their staff less money and more profit for them.>>>

Tipping was not a scam. It kept big boobed women serving me with a smile.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 12, 2016 11:23 PM (Nkdwp)

198 The last couple of years I have seen something new.
Grown men on those little razor scooters.
On the sidewalks.
Posted by: navybrat
-----------------

I see 20-something bearded hipsters with skateboards all of the time


How about the grown people who wear knit hats that make them look like stuffed animals? It's like we're running out of ways to be jackasses.

Posted by: Josephistan at February 12, 2016 11:23 PM (7qAYi)

199 " Rummaged around in the basement[/]..."

Which is no small matter, I'm afraid.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 12, 2016 11:24 PM (yddCj)

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 12, 2016 11:24 PM (yddCj)

201 I won't vote

for that womat.

Posted by: no matter what you do at February 12, 2016 11:24 PM (AG7GB)

202 LIV's getting their wish ===> LIB begins

I'm just gonna sit back and watch it all go up in flames and listen to the screams.

Sure eventually it will affect me somehow and I'll have to deal with that when it happens.

But I and so many others could see this happening back in the '90's. I had suspicions before that but the '90's is when I was sure. I just didn't know how long it would take and I hoped to have more money when it happened.

Unfortunately I experienced premature LIB in 2007. So I was only about 75% prepared.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 12, 2016 11:24 PM (Xo1Rt)

203 *smells sulphur*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 12, 2016 11:25 PM (yddCj)

204 ...and free skinny jeans.

Posted by: Colonel Bernie Sanders at February 12, 2016 11:25 PM (Dwehj)

205 Posted by: PaleRider at February 12, 2016 10:46 PM (dkExz)

It's a great idea. The problem is that young minds aren't fully developed and so they fail to see the analogy. And regardless, even the vast majority of grown up progressives are only "progressive" about the things that won't affect them. See Hollywood, DC, and frankly, every commie f*cker known to man.

Posted by: Mega at February 12, 2016 11:25 PM (JwLCI)

206 Tipping is a scam perpetuated by Restaurant owners so that they can pay their staff less money and more profit for them.

Dude. Restaurant are barely open with prices as is. They can't pay a lot to super low skill jobs that much money and yet have prices for meals that people will pay.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 12, 2016 11:26 PM (39g3+)

207 The problem is that young minds aren't fully developed..
----------------

heh, heh.
That's the beauty of 18-20 year-olds voting

Posted by: The Left at February 12, 2016 11:27 PM (yddCj)

208 187

That's...not bad. "God Only Knows" is one of my favorite songs ever. Here's another from someone recently gone...

https://youtu.be/HOadV_CPT_k

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at February 12, 2016 11:27 PM (rJUlF)

209 Tipping was not a scam. It kept big boobed women serving me with a smile.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 12, 2016 11:23 PM (Nkdwp)


Also, do your server a big one and tip in cash. If you tip on the credit card
a) chances are the owner is taking the merchant fee out of the tip, not the bill
and
b) the server can get it today to buy smokes tonight, not on the 19th

Posted by: Kindltot at February 12, 2016 11:28 PM (q2o38)

210 shoot to kill..............

Posted by: there's noth'n wrong with red meet at February 12, 2016 11:28 PM (AG7GB)

211 Another thing that's interesting is that we have come full circle (sort of) in that there's discussion abroad (and in certain ways here) of having government give everyone a stipend upon reaching their majority.

This was something that McGovern ran on 44 years ago.

There's nothing new under the sun. We just forgot about it from before.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 12, 2016 11:28 PM (Xo1Rt)

212 How about the grown people who wear knit hats that make them look like stuffed animals/i]

I kinda like the party girls in kitty cat ears.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 12, 2016 11:29 PM (39g3+)

213 for meals that people will pay.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 12, 2016 11:26 PM (39g3+)

Dude. And right there is what I was talking about.The customers don't want to pay a fair price so the restaurant owner runs his scam to make it appear less than what it is actually costing.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 12, 2016 11:30 PM (Xo1Rt)

214 Watching a doc on Eric Kielbold, interviews his mother. It's really interesting. Very pertinent to the earlier thread on nature/nuture.

It was a Diane Sawyer thing on 20/20.

Sorry story that much wasn't done before hand.

Posted by: Farmer at February 12, 2016 11:30 PM (o/90i)

215 when all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins
then as surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn -

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 12, 2016 11:30 PM (6FqZa)

216 So, I'm watching Clint right now, For a Few Dollars More. Spaghetti westerners are the best. For the Soundtrack alone.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 12, 2016 11:30 PM (MSgeA)

217 "Also, do your server a big one and tip in cash."

It also allows the server to choose not to report the income, which the best reason of all to tip only in cash.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 12, 2016 11:31 PM (u5gzz)

218 Dude, I'm going to guess you were never a server, or if you were, you were a poor one.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 12, 2016 11:31 PM (q2o38)

219 Everyone wants something for nothing (or at least less than market value)

It's a human trait.

Doesn't mean it's right or that we're entitled to something for nothing.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 12, 2016 11:31 PM (Xo1Rt)

220 The customers don't want to pay a fair price so the restaurant owner runs his scam to make it appear less than what it is actually costing.

No, because it allows them to pay what they feel the meal was worth. If you got lousy food and terrible service: no tip or a small one. If you got great service and food: spend more. Its a bit more free market, one of the few places in our society that has that.

Most people don't pay more than 10%, but some pay 20% or more to shove the average up which keeps the prices reasonable.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 12, 2016 11:32 PM (39g3+)

221 Mike Hammer: Not at my link.

Guess my comment was unclear? That's why I thanked you. Or, maybe you were just clarifying for others.

Anywho, after reading it, interesting as it was, it was hardly worth downloading some app to read! Thanks^2.

Posted by: mindful webworker - but not as confused as Hillary at February 12, 2016 11:32 PM (ACs58)

222 "The customers don't want to pay a fair price"

What is this "fair price" nonsense? They pay what the market supports.

Posted by: Lauren at February 12, 2016 11:33 PM (0C2f1)

223 Why would we expect better of millennials when all their teachers were taught by the likes of respected academic Bill Ayers?

My kid spent an entire year - one solid academic year - in his smart kids honors middle-school English class writing papers about himself. Each and every paper was about him. They were supposed to collect them all into an end-of-year book - about themselves.

And people wonder why this generation is narcissistic?

They've been carefully taught.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at February 12, 2016 11:33 PM (N+8NE)

224 Direct cash is always the best pay.

Posted by: Cottonwood Kulak at February 12, 2016 11:34 PM (j8uQ3)

225 Also, do your server a big one and tip in cash. If you tip on the credit card
a) chances are the owner is taking the merchant fee out of the tip, not the bill
and
b) the server can get it today to buy smokes tonight, not on the 19th

Posted by: Kindltot at February 12, 2016 11:28 PM (q2o3


If you tip on a credit card, some places hold those tips and issue a weekly or bi-weekly check with withholding.

I saw this happen at a ritzy supper club I worked at as a busboy right after high school (summer of '74). The management made the change while I was there. The waitresses were not amused.

Posted by: RickZ at February 12, 2016 11:34 PM (Ix+HS)

226 >>Dude. And right there is what I was talking about.The customers don't want to pay a fair price so the restaurant owner runs his scam to make it appear less than what it is actually costing.

Is that you Bernie?

Posted by: Aviator at February 12, 2016 11:34 PM (c7vUv)

227 BTW, I've ALWAYS overtipped because I knew the servers were getting ripped off a lot of the time by bad customers. Sure some will get good tips but a lot of good servers get shit.

Besides if you take pride in your work, you don't care about a gratuity but the restaurant owners take advantage and rip off the servers and make it a server/customer thing.

Which is wrong. Charge what it costs and don't try to hide it with scams.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 12, 2016 11:35 PM (Xo1Rt)

228 Most people don't pay more than 10%, but some pay 20% or more to shove the average up which keeps the prices reasonable.>>>

The 20% keeps waitresses/ waiters that are worth a shit showing up night after night.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 12, 2016 11:35 PM (Nkdwp)

229 I just got back from Deadpool. It's very funny and exactly what the trailer promises.
The other X-Men movies seemed to try to hit the same scale as Avengers, and soooooo much energy and personality is squashed by that. Having twelve fantastic buggers fight twelve other fantastic buggers isn't entertaining. X-Men First Class, a good movie, would have been better if there had been hard budget choices.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 12, 2016 11:36 PM (VdICR)

230 "For a Few Dollars More. Spaghetti westerners are the best. For the Soundtrack alone."


Horrible acting from most except the lead most of the time. Terrible sound dubbing. Editing is for shit.


But they are fun to watch.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 12, 2016 11:36 PM (9ym/8)

231 Charge what it costs

I like that idea. Eliminate the profit.

Posted by: Colonel Bernie Sanders at February 12, 2016 11:36 PM (Dwehj)

232 Cloyd Freud: [Paying cash] also allows the server to choose not to report the income, which the best reason of all to tip only in cash...

...which would be totally illegal of course, so we're just speaking hypothetically and not recommending tax evasion in any way. Of course. Ahem.

(Fixed for Freud)

Posted by: mindful webworker - hypo thetically at February 12, 2016 11:37 PM (ACs58)

233 When I go out it is always a splurge so I always tip well if the service is close to passable. I am not going to be their bread and butter but those people work hard for what they get so I never feel cheated.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 12, 2016 11:37 PM (Nkdwp)

234 Posted by: Aviator at February 12, 2016 11:34 PM (c7vUv)

What are you talking about? It's not me that expects something for nothing.

I'm not talking about giving stuff away. I'm talking about restaurants that don't pay their staff a decent wage for the work they do.

(we're not talking McDonalds here)


Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 12, 2016 11:38 PM (Xo1Rt)

235 oh don't get me started on the stupid millennials
They are in my class every day
They want to be science majors but cannot figure out how to manipulate percentages to calculate their grade in the class
How do they think they will be able to handle quantum mechanics? FML

Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 12, 2016 11:38 PM (uZNvH)

236 Is this something?

After 962 years, Pope and Russian patriarch of Russian Orthodox church meet in Cuba

http://tinyurl.com/jp9v5cg

Posted by: SMFH at February 12, 2016 11:38 PM (rlfds)

237 The key to good tips is wearing at least fifteen pieces of flair.

But you should really wear more.

Posted by: Chotchkie's at February 12, 2016 11:39 PM (jWh67)

238 My baseline tip is 20%, more if the service is exceptional, less if below average. It's rare that I don't leave a tip; the service and the meal would have to be pretty bad for that.

I wasn't aware tips made on cards could be manipulated like that. I guess I'll have to make sure I have cash on hand when dining out.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at February 12, 2016 11:39 PM (rJUlF)

239 Whitebread: I was posting here when I saw the first Kick-Ass. Some dude brought his preteen daughter to the thing and sat right next to me.

Probably he understood his little hitgirl better than I did, but it was still really uncomfortable (for me).

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 12, 2016 11:39 PM (6FqZa)

240 "Most people don't pay more than 10%,"


I do min' 15%. More if service is better. I get my hair cut at a Sport Clips and I've gotten a regular girl the last several months and I tip her 20-25% because she does such a good job.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 12, 2016 11:39 PM (9ym/8)

241 >>The 20% keeps waitresses/ waiters that are worth a shit showing up night after night.

I generally tip 20% for good service, less for mediocre, more for great service. At places that I go to frequently there are wait staff that want our table because we tip decent. It is usually the good servers that bust their ass to take good care of us and we take care of them.

Posted by: Aviator at February 12, 2016 11:39 PM (c7vUv)

242 All those poor servers out there who had no idea what their base pay was going to be. Locked forever in a job with no escape.

Posted by: buzzion at February 12, 2016 11:39 PM (zt+N6)

243 Friday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/698221975836233728

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/698222121340833792

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/698222259425701888

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/698222407065190401

Posted by: kbdabear at February 12, 2016 11:40 PM (yZnGH)

Posted by: Ralph at February 12, 2016 11:40 PM (j8uQ3)

245 Milady is baking cookies.

As she handed me a sample warm from the oven, she warned me, these are not chocolate, they're molasses. And those aren't chocolate chips, they're currents.

(Knowing how I complain when cookies that look like chocolate chip turn out to be oatmeal-raisin.)

It's okay, as long as I was duly warned beforehand.

Mmmmmm.

Posted by: mindful webworker - nom nom nom at February 12, 2016 11:41 PM (ACs58)

246 The Good, The Bad and The Ugly is my favorite soundtrack & spaghetti Western. The music goes so well with the film. There's a "feel" to it, an atmosphere. I remember staying up late and watching that with my old man when I was a kid. Good times.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at February 12, 2016 11:41 PM (dBmVV)

247 Posted by: Colonel Bernie Sanders at February 12, 2016 11:36 PM (Dwehj)

Where did I say eliminate the profit?

Are you all having a problem understanding basic economics?

I'm 180 degrees from Bernie. Bernie wants everyone to work for nothing and everything's for 'free'.

I'm saying that you sell your goods or service for the cost of it (plus a profit of course or you can't stay in business).

but too many businesses push off the true cost onto someone else or somewhere else. So as to create the impression on the customer that it costs less than it does.

that's why we're not living in a true capitalist economy.

Too many cost shifting, government subsidies and scams like tipping.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 12, 2016 11:42 PM (Xo1Rt)

248 More Friday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/698222571037319168

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/698222703485054977

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/698222827879714817

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/698222974671912960

Posted by: kbdabear at February 12, 2016 11:42 PM (yZnGH)

249 Pooling tips is a ripoff.

All it does is drive the service to match the average.

Posted by: eman at February 12, 2016 11:42 PM (MQEz6)

250 Donald Trump is the Deadpool candidate.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 12, 2016 11:43 PM (VdICR)

251 >>What are you talking about? It's not me that expects something for nothing.

Actually you are. A good server can make good money. They get paid what the customer feels they are worth by way of the tip. You want to pervert that direct feed back. We can all be paid the same no matter how good or bad at the job we are, eh comrade?

Posted by: Aviator at February 12, 2016 11:43 PM (c7vUv)

252 "Do they really look at Venezuela and think, man that is awesome"

They don't know what or where Venezuela is. Now would be a good time for conservative candidates to, you know, educate them!! Jeez.

Posted by: PJ at February 12, 2016 11:43 PM (cHuNI)

253 Paul,
I called the bank, Rogalski, and the Kentwood police about the credit card business.

Ann had said to contact the bank, Rogalski said to report it to the police, but didn't seem to think that it would be a problem for us.

I had called an 800 number for the bank last night and the lady said the guy wouldn't be able to access the estate account. I called Suada this morning and she said she would put a notation to be on the lookout for any questionable transactions.

The police officer said that he will contact Lowes, file a report. If we have any problems with creditors, or there are further problems to contact them. We can also use the police report. He said we aren't the victims, the credit card company is.

According to a couple of online sites, the credit card company might contact us, but can't collect from us.

The gist of it all seems to be that this is more of a problem for the credit card company than for us.
Ev

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 12, 2016 11:43 PM (+lVUW)

254 palin steele, though, was Captain America.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 12, 2016 11:43 PM (6FqZa)

255 237 The key to good tips is wearing at least fifteen pieces of flair.

But you should really wear more.


I SEE FOUR PIECES OF FLAIR!

Posted by: Captain Jean-Luc Picard at February 12, 2016 11:44 PM (7qAYi)

256 I don't know who Damon Linker is, but having just read his idiotic article on Ted Cruz re: drafting women I can say with absolute certainty that he sucks cock by choice.

Posted by: Lauren at February 12, 2016 11:45 PM (3DIzJ)

257 To Catch aThief is on. More awesome clothes

Posted by: ThunderB at February 12, 2016 11:46 PM (zOTsN)

258 They've been carefully taught.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at February 12, 2016 11:33 PM (N+8NE)


Very .... carefully.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at February 12, 2016 11:46 PM (zYV5P)

259
Which is wrong. Charge what it costs and don't try to hide it with scams.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 12, 2016 11:35 PM (Xo1Rt)


It's not a scam. You don't want to tip, don't tip.

A tip does not pay for the food or the cleaners or the dishwasher or the cook, that is all covered by the price of the meal.

The tip is for service. Service is not free. Sure, there is a paycheck there, and a diner can opt to not pay, but I have know very successful waitresses who would consider knifing you if you proposed their tips be taken away and replaced by a wage in spite of that all.

A tip is not a scam. A good waitress at a good place makes good money in tips. The bored surly teenager in a dive does not. But she starts making more if she gets better, and if she is better she can get on at a nicer place. And she has reason to get better because the tips are better when you are good.

Do you think that is not fair? What makes you think it is supposed to be fair? Making it fair makes it into Venezuela.

What it does do is make it equitable. Which is very different. To each according to his abilities, from each according to his needs.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 12, 2016 11:47 PM (q2o38)

260
20%, no less.

I often do the math in my head, and figure how many tables a waitress can manage, or are served in a night, multiply by my tip, and come up with a fairly sad number for the hours worked. I mean, if I have a $10.00 meal, that's only $2.00. If the waitress gets, say 20 tables on a 4-hour shift (which seems a bit much), then that's $40.00. Of course, there will be some hourly, but at a mom & pop restaurant the earnings are not much for the waiter/waitress.

Posted by: The Left at February 12, 2016 11:47 PM (ZxmMG)

261 "Pooling tips is a ripoff. "

Agreed, but I got in a big fight on here for saying as much one night so I will say no more.

Posted by: Lauren at February 12, 2016 11:47 PM (3DIzJ)

262 Once Upon a time in the West, now that's a good movie. Henry Ford, Charles Bronson, and a cast of characters for all time. What's not to like? I would there, maybe. If I didn't live in the 21 century.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 12, 2016 11:48 PM (MSgeA)

263 The brain is jello. I believe that's the scientific term. It doesn't settle until you're 25, assuming it settles at all.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 12, 2016 11:49 PM (VdICR)

264 When I was young I used to frequent a club (probably a better word but a bar with music and a dance floor) with a group of male friends regularly. We would go on 2 for 1 night. Sit at a table together and tip $10 a round (this was in 1980). People always asked us why the waitress was always came first to our table. Not rocket science really and we still came out of the night with a cheap drunk.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 12, 2016 11:49 PM (Nkdwp)

265 I've recently started a second job delivering pizzas. Usually once or twice a night I'll get stiffed. Average runs 3 to 5 bucks. Best so far has been 20 bucks.

About 15% of the people I deliver to have been smoking weed just before I got there. This does not seem to affect the tip amount.

One of the other drivers last night had the woman show up completely naked at the door to pay.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 12, 2016 11:49 PM (9ltS8)

266 X-Men First Class, a good movie, would have been better if there had been hard budget choices.

That's true with almost all films though. Its almost a law.

With tips, they have to pay a certain percentage of presumed taxes from the IRS, but cash carries no records, so if they get investigated, a card record shows exact numbers, but cash is just estimated.

I dated a waitress in the late 90s who got angry when she pulled in less than $80 a night. She had red hair and big boobages, plus she was cute and charming, so she did well, but that was more than her wages.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 12, 2016 11:49 PM (39g3+)

267 Yeah, tips are basically a type of commission-based compensation, nothing wrong with that

the harder you work, the more money you make, it's the anti-socialism

Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 12, 2016 11:50 PM (uZNvH)

268 I just really noticed the dog picture at the top. When I was a teen, we had a dog who looked just like that. He was a little guy who was loveable as could be, but dumb as a post. He sometimes would try to jump through the glass storm door of our house, thinking it was open air.

Now I'm missing him. Thanks a lot.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at February 12, 2016 11:50 PM (rJUlF)

269 One of the other drivers last night had the woman show up completely naked at the door to pay.

Did she have cash or was she offering alternate arrangements?

Posted by: Vivid Video at February 12, 2016 11:51 PM (jWh67)

270 I worked as a bartender off & on for a few years & we pooled tips. Sometimes it sucked, sometimes you did way better than you would have had you kept the tips you made. When an establishment has multiple bars, some bars are just going to get more customers & hence, more tips.

Posted by: Josephistan at February 12, 2016 11:51 PM (7qAYi)

271 "Did she have cash or was she offering alternate arrangements?


Posted by: Vivid Video"

I think she paid cash. Apparently, her dude (also nude) was in the room with her.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 12, 2016 11:52 PM (9ltS8)

272 Pooling tips is a ripoff.

Yeah but... sometimes its not so bad. There are a lot of people working behind the scenes who never get tips. Cooks for example can see nothing from tips (although smart servers give them a cut) and pooling it kicks some to them. The quality and speed of food coming out can really affect tipping.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 12, 2016 11:53 PM (39g3+)

273 Fixing to run "Hang 'Em High" on Encore. Always one of my absolute faves.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 12, 2016 11:53 PM (9ym/8)

274 but at a mom & pop restaurant the earnings are not much for the waiter/waitress.
Posted by: The Left at February 12, 2016 11:47 PM (ZxmMG)


The waitresses at our local mom and pop diner type cafes make $2.50-$3.50 an hour. Not sure about the chains, except I know they make about that at Cracker Barrel, too.

I'd have to catch them spitting in my food to leave less than 30%.


Posted by: prewittlassie at February 12, 2016 11:54 PM (WjuJ3)

275 I worked one waiter job where we pooled tips. I absolutely despised it because we had some lazy asses that did not hardly try, and they'd get shitty tips. I busted ass and got good tips, but ended up forking money over to them.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 12, 2016 11:55 PM (9ltS8)

276 Hoooooorde!


How's it hanging?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at February 12, 2016 11:55 PM (1xUj/)

277 other than peanut butter.

we can dance!

Posted by: skippy at February 12, 2016 11:55 PM (AG7GB)

278 "Well the problem is that in Obama's economy so many
young people aren't working and are living at home and they see no path
to prosperity so they aspire to free shit to take care of them.



Posted by: Lauren at February 12, 2016 10:14 PM (0C2f1)"


I trace the problem back to Griggs v. Duke Power that made a college degree one of the few tests that employers could use for potential employees. Colleges then took advantage of their status as gatekeepers to employment to raise their prices. In response government loans were made available and colleges kept raising their prices along with the money that was available. With student loans exempted from bankruptcy relief, an entire generation is trapped with the equivalence of a mortgage payment at the beginning of their working life. Seven years into Obama's shitty economy they are looking at a genuinely raw deal and are quite amenable to some other way of doing things because the present system does not seem to be working out too well for them.

My personal solution would be to eliminate the student loan bankruptcy exception, create a series of government approved tests that employers can use to test employees and comply with Griggs v.Duke Power and fire or kill about 30% of federal government employees to reduce the regulatory burden on employers.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at February 12, 2016 11:56 PM (QHgTq)

279 love comes in many size's.

Posted by: skippy at February 12, 2016 11:57 PM (AG7GB)

280 260
20%, no less.

I often do the math in my head, and figure how many tables a waitress can manage, or are served in a night, multiply by my tip, and come up with a fairly sad number for the hours worked. I mean, if I have a $10.00 meal, that's only $2.00. If the waitress gets, say 20 tables on a 4-hour shift (which seems a bit much), then that's $40.00. Of course, there will be some hourly, but at a mom & pop restaurant the earnings are not much for the waiter/waitress.

Posted by: The Left at February 12, 2016 11:47 PM (ZxmMG)



You're also assuming one person per table. And what restaurant are you eating at where you can get a meal and drinks for only $10 that isn't fast food or buffet?

Posted by: buzzion at February 12, 2016 11:57 PM (zt+N6)

281 Did she have cash or was she offering alternate arrangements?>>>

Back when I was a pump jockey at a gas station. I did run into the note under the hood a couple times offering something other than cash for gas. Never was brave or stupid enough to make the trade though.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 12, 2016 11:57 PM (Nkdwp)

282 Place I worked the busboys and the dishwasher got a cut of the tip, not so much by policy as by management philosophy.

The cooks were all on their way up and out. None of them expected to stay there, they were heading onto better paying jobs once they got the time and experience in.

It was years later that I talked to a bunch of cooks and discovered the biggest job of the head cook is getting the undercooks past their hangovers and pointed at the right stations to start working.
Gah.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 12, 2016 11:57 PM (q2o38)

283 Once Upon A Time In The West is a great one.

Claudia Cardinale was hot, but eye mascara that looked like it was applied with a trowel was always a bit of a turnoff for me.

It was a late '60s-early '70s thing, I know.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at February 12, 2016 11:57 PM (dBmVV)

284 I did 4 hrs on the road tonight. Eleven deliveries and made 60 bucks. More than usual though.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 12, 2016 11:58 PM (9ltS8)

285 "fire or kill about 30% of federal government employees to reduce the regulatory burden on employers"

Why must it be either/or? How about killing them with fire?

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 12, 2016 11:58 PM (u5gzz)

286 If the Millies are looking for something different, why are they attracted to socialism?

Some full-throated free market capitalism. Now THAT would be different.

Posted by: dissent555 at February 12, 2016 11:59 PM (GdgAM)

287 285

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at February 12, 2016 11:59 PM (rJUlF)

288 "love comes in many size's."



Love. Medium Love. Extra Love. Double Extra Love.



?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 12, 2016 11:59 PM (9ym/8)

289 285

Cut, jib, yada yada yada.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at February 12, 2016 11:59 PM (rJUlF)

290
Adblock Plus - If you are running ABP, you might want to check your settings and opt out of their approved whitelist filter.



Yep. If you click [open blockable items], anything showing in green in the lower plane is whitelisted -- and you can't block it. Scam.

But if you're the tidy sort, set aside some time to go thru the filter lists under [filter preferences], uncheck anything highlighted in green -- those are whitelisted items. Then you can right-click block those sites individually as you come across them.

Takes time, hundreds of advertisers have bought into this "feature", but it's that or try one of the alternatives, none of which seem like a real competitor at this time.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 12, 2016 11:59 PM (kdS6q)

291 288

Big, Big Love.

https://youtu.be/rjKL469SpR0

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at February 13, 2016 12:00 AM (rJUlF)

292 Oy!

Posted by: Oy! at February 13, 2016 12:01 AM (7qAYi)

293 What really chaps me is the houses that have no numbers on them, or they put the wrong address on the order. Takers extra time and slows me down.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 13, 2016 12:01 AM (9ltS8)

294 275 I worked one waiter job where we pooled tips. I absolutely despised it because we had some lazy asses that did not hardly try, and they'd get shitty tips. I busted ass and got good tips, but ended up forking money over to them.


Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 12, 2016 11:55 PM (9ltS



I'm sure that's part of the "pooling tips is ok/awful" equation. If everyone is busting their ass then you're probably not going to be too beat up about it because hey tonight you had a bad night so you make a bit more than otherwise but tomorrow it could be your friend with the tightwad customers and you had the good night. But if you have the crappy waiters that don't try and then are getting money you busted your ass for then awfulness sets in.

Posted by: buzzion at February 13, 2016 12:01 AM (zt+N6)

295 Daughter has done a lot of waitressing. We don't go out to eat as much as we used to, but our baseline has been 20% for a long, long time.

I think of it as the waitress has two bosses. The restaurant pays her to turn in orders and deliver the food; the customer pays for our end of the service. Of course, in a true capitalist arrangement, the waitress would negotiate the tip up front, but that has problems of its own which I'm too tired to bother typing about this. :/

AshevilleRobert: One of the other drivers last night had the woman show up completely naked at the door to pay.

[something something...] "just the tip..." ??
Posted by:

Posted by: mindful webworker - nips tips at February 13, 2016 12:01 AM (ACs58)

296 The waitresses at our local mom and pop diner type
cafes make $2.50-$3.50 an hour. Not sure about the chains, except I know
they make about that at Cracker Barrel, too.



I'd have to catch them spitting in my food to leave less than 30%.

Posted by: prewittlassie at February 12, 2016 11:54 PM (WjuJ3)


That is so far below Federal Minimum Wage as to invite special attention from the USDoL.

Are you in a tip credit state? That is a state that allows an employer to deduct the tips earned from the hourly rate?

Posted by: Kindltot at February 13, 2016 12:02 AM (q2o38)

297 Don't ask me about bear spray.

Posted by: Leonard DiCraprio at February 13, 2016 12:02 AM (WOyz5)

298 [something something...] "just the tip..." ??>>>

Pepperoni or Sausage?

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 12:03 AM (Nkdwp)

299 com'n for you litt'l bill

Posted by: valamine times day at February 13, 2016 12:03 AM (AG7GB)

300 But if you have the crappy waiters that don't try and then are getting money you busted your ass for then awfulness sets in.

Posted by: buzzion at February 13, 2016 12:01 AM (zt+N6)


Then that awfulness leads to fewer customers, then fewer tips, then eventually no job at all as the place closes due to lack of customers.

Reality: She be a real bitch, eh?

Posted by: RickZ at February 13, 2016 12:04 AM (Ix+HS)

301 Almost all states have a lower minimum wage for tippable jobs like server staff, to allow businesses to survive.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 13, 2016 12:04 AM (39g3+)

302 Trump just tweeted that he had an amazing crowd tonight in Tampa at a rally with amazing and fantastic people.

Amazing. Fantastic.

Fantastically amazing.

Amazingly fantastic.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 13, 2016 12:05 AM (U6f54)

303 Sit at a table together and tip $10 a round (this was in 1980). People always asked us why the waitress was always came first to our table. Not rocket science really and we still came out of the night with a cheap drunk.
Posted by: Willy J.


Cheap? That's Moo Moo money.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 13, 2016 12:05 AM (FkBIv)

304 Spent some (too much) time in bars when we were younger and lived in Chicago. My late bro-in-law was a great bartender.

Tipping the bartender is a wise thing.

Posted by: mindful webworker - don't drunk and drive at February 13, 2016 12:05 AM (ACs58)

305 that was a great post and shirt!

Posted by: 800 yds, dautgher hoodie at February 13, 2016 12:06 AM (AG7GB)

306 Trump's a real wordsmith, isn't he?

Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 13, 2016 12:06 AM (U6f54)

307
Oh, and unchecking the ABP whitelist button in settings doesn't work, quelle surprise, hence the need to manually unapprove sites in the individual filters.

The hoods running the program express constant amazement that the whitelist approve function isn't working worth squat, and promise to fix it in #TwoWeeks.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 13, 2016 12:07 AM (kdS6q)

308 Cheap? That's Moo Moo money.>>>

We really should have got laid more. I guess that young and dumb thing is true.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 12:07 AM (Nkdwp)

309 truth be told.

Posted by: govrnment=coroption at February 13, 2016 12:08 AM (AG7GB)

310
Love. Medium Love. Extra Love. Double Extra Love.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 12, 2016 11:59 PM (9ym/


Deep dish love. Love-alanche, Love-a-nami, Love-a-cane.


Extinction level kinetic bolide strike of love.


What were we discussing again?

Posted by: Kindltot at February 13, 2016 12:08 AM (q2o38)

311 We get min wage while we are inside the store waiting for orders. On the road we get $2 less per hr, but get 5% of the total order price not including the taxes. Plus our tips.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 13, 2016 12:08 AM (9ltS8)

312 Hey, where all da infidel wimmen at?

Posted by: Sheriff Achmed Mohammed at February 13, 2016 12:08 AM (sl+zA)

313 Nite all. Work beckons tomorrow.

Be well.

Posted by: Farmer at February 13, 2016 12:08 AM (o/90i)

314 186 I have met some intelligent millennials so let us not bash them all.
Have I met too many that were worth as much as a bucket of warm piss? Sigh, yes.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 12, 2016 11:20 PM (hVdx9)


Absolutely. I don't bash them all.

Every generation has its share of heroes and villains; geniuses and idiots. The Millennials are no exception.

Posted by: rickl at February 13, 2016 12:09 AM (sdi6R)

315 Holy crap, speaking of nitwits. I was going to email my brother about an issue with my dad's estate and I put in in this forum's comment box.
So that's why the inexplicable comment. Sorry. I need to get some sleep.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 13, 2016 12:09 AM (+lVUW)

316 We'll also up the tip quite a bit if we're sitting a long time at a table in a busy place, and/or drinking little or not at all where most tables might be expected to order more booze. Because.

Posted by: mindful webworker - dink dive and dron't at February 13, 2016 12:11 AM (ACs58)

317 315 Holy crap, speaking of nitwits. I was going to email my brother about an issue with my dad's estate and I put in in this forum's comment box.
So that's why the inexplicable comment. Sorry. I need to get some sleep.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 13, 2016 12:09 AM (+lVUW)

----------

Darn. I was just preparing a bill.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 13, 2016 12:11 AM (sl+zA)

318 At the karaoke bar where I DJ on weekends (not there tonight, due to laryngitis), I always encourage customers to tip the bartender and the servers. I also mention, jokingly, that I also like tips (my jar is labeled "Hawaiian Shirt Fund"). I only get around $5-$10 a night, but that's fine. I know I get paid more per hour than the servers do, so I mention tipping them a lot more than I do tipping me.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at February 13, 2016 12:11 AM (rJUlF)

319 Try ublock.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 13, 2016 12:11 AM (FkBIv)

320 Some Boomers fought in Vietnam, and when they came home, they were spat upon by other Boomers.

Posted by: rickl at February 13, 2016 12:11 AM (sdi6R)

321 the tip quite a bit if we're sitting a long time at a table in a busy place, and/or drinking little or not at all where most tables might be expected to order more booze. Because.

-------

Wait, what?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 13, 2016 12:12 AM (sl+zA)

322 Hi all.

Who is Daisy Ridley?

Posted by: Blano at February 13, 2016 12:13 AM (3eoPa)

323 pet smart has a 25.00 cat apotion

tomorrow.

asked wife if we can get $50.00

when we trade in the cats

tomorrow.

Posted by: married at February 13, 2016 12:13 AM (AG7GB)

324 Yeah, Adblock Edge covers it.


Posted by: Ralph at February 13, 2016 12:13 AM (j8uQ3)

325 Almost all states have a lower minimum wage for tippable jobs like server staff, to allow businesses to survive.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 13, 2016 12:04 AM (39g3+)


I'm just used to the opposite.

State-by-state breakdown:

http://www.dol.gov/whd/state/tipped.htm

Posted by: A Tip of the Hat at February 13, 2016 12:14 AM (vBeA5)

326 Just looked up Daisy Ridley. Ah, easy on the eyes.

Unfortunately my latest hopeless starcrush is on Rebel Wilson. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 13, 2016 12:14 AM (ntObR)

327 314 186 I have met some intelligent millennials so let us not bash them all.
Have I met too many that were worth as much as a bucket of warm piss? Sigh, yes.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 12, 2016 11:20 PM (hVdx9)

Absolutely. I don't bash them all.

Every generation has its share of heroes and villains; geniuses and idiots. The Millennials are no exception.
Posted by: rickl at February 13, 2016 12:09 AM (sdi6R)
***
Still, it's fun to tease the little blighters.

Why, one of my favorite games at work is "Stump a Millennial," wherein I reference a world-historic event pre-1990, or just mention in passing that there was a time before social media and smart phones.

Today, a young colleague of mine noticed my old Nikkormat camera, brought to document an important event.

She hefted it - "Man, this thing is heavy," she said.

"How many mega-pixels?" she asked...

"it's 35mm," I told her.

"Pretty cool, huh?" she asked. "all those pixels, and it looks like an antique."

She furrowed her brow....

"There's no USB port," she noted.

Long pause.....

"Bluetooth," she said, answering her own question...

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:14 AM (/33sy)

328 Hey, where all da infidel wimmen at?
Posted by: Sheriff Achmed Mohammed


See that large bunch of motorcyclists over there? Go molest their women - they don't mind. (See the beards? They're just like you!)

I'll watch from over here at the bar.

Posted by: mindful webworker - punch the guys, while you're at it at February 13, 2016 12:14 AM (ACs58)

329 Not Oregon. Everything is minimum wage. They even closed the loophole for protected workshops for developmentally disabled.

Speaking of which, the Oregon Legislature passed a triple level minimum wage for the state that would increase the wage to as much as $14.75 per hour over the next sixyears.

"The measure sets up three different minimum wages:
One for the Portland metro area, a lower one for mid-size communities,
and the lowest for rural parts of the state. Democratic Senator Diane
Rosenbaum called it the most important bill that lawmakers would vote on
thissession."

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hn4qmj6

Posted by: Kindltot at February 13, 2016 12:15 AM (q2o38)

330 Palpatine, LOL.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 13, 2016 12:15 AM (ntObR)

331 Unfortunately my latest hopeless starcrush is on Rebel Wilson. ;-)

Yes, she'll crush you, alright.

Posted by: Josephistan at February 13, 2016 12:15 AM (7qAYi)

332 Are you in a tip credit state? That is a state that allows an employer to deduct the tips earned from the hourly rate?
Posted by: Kindltot at February 13, 2016 12:02 AM (q2o3


I have no idea, but I can say with fair certainty that any state that has a Cracker Barrel also has a Federal Wage Exemption for any employees who get tips or other compensation as a part of their services. Cracker Barrel won't open restaurants in any state that does, which is partly why their food is cheap.

I live in Arkansas, by the way.

Posted by: prewittlassie at February 13, 2016 12:16 AM (WjuJ3)

333 You know, there is a group called The Waitress. And another called The Busboys. Diner groups from the 80's are...,

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 13, 2016 12:16 AM (MSgeA)

334 Still, it's fun to tease the little blighters.

Why, one of my favorite games at work is "Stump a Millennial," wherein I reference a world-historic event pre-1990, or just mention in passing that there was a time before social media and smart phones.

Today, a young colleague of mine noticed my old Nikkormat camera, brought to document an important event.

She hefted it - "Man, this thing is heavy," she said.

"How many mega-pixels?" she asked...

"it's 35mm," I told her.

"Pretty cool, huh?" she asked. "all those pixels, and it looks like an antique."

She furrowed her brow....

"There's no USB port," she noted.

Long pause.....

"Bluetooth," she said, answering her own question...

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine
****

Ask them if they know what microfiche is.
They may guess a very small fish.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 13, 2016 12:16 AM (hVdx9)

335 While channel surfing, I see the BLM Fascist (can't remember his name) who is running for mayor of Baltimore is on the little watch Late Show with Smug not funny Douchebag (Colbert).

Clicking back to Barney Miller.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 13, 2016 12:16 AM (NGd+i)

336 In the end I have only accepted jobs that were worth the money or the entertainment (lifeguard) that grabbed my interest. What the pay is or the tips are it is up to me to figure if I will show up and do the task the employer is wants me to do. I don't need no Bernie to fuck that up. And yes a couple of my first jobs as a teenager were just for entertainment if only the boss knew.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 12:17 AM (Nkdwp)

337 330 Palpatine, LOL.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 13, 2016 12:15 AM (ntObR)
***
Bless their hearts....

Last week I watch one try to help another write a check....

You'd think they were doing differential calculus and showing their work in cuneiform.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:17 AM (/33sy)

338 321 the tip quite a bit if we're sitting a long time at a table in a busy place, and/or drinking little or not at all where most tables might be expected to order more booze. Because.

-------

Wait, what?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 13, 2016 12:12 AM (sl+zA)



Makes sense to me. You're taking up a table for a long time, even though you haven't spent that much money so you're costing the server a spot they could have had one or two more groups sit down there and tip. So you tip a bit more generously than whatever you did order would be expected/

Posted by: buzzion at February 13, 2016 12:17 AM (zt+N6)

339 Palpatine/Tilikum, don't get me started.

Super 8, microfiche, open-reel audio...

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 13, 2016 12:17 AM (ntObR)

340 Why, one of my favorite games at work is "Stump a Millennial," wherein I reference a world-historic event pre-1990, or just mention in passing that there was a time before social media and smart phones.

It is strange how much of a divide there is. My generation is sort of astride both analog and digital, so I am fairly at ease with both. Young people are utterly mystified by non-digital stuff, its sort of cute in a way.

What is this bizarre incomprehensible object????
A Walkman, you child.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 13, 2016 12:18 AM (39g3+)

341 "Who is Daisy Ridley?"

English bird who's one the leads in the latest Star Wars movie.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 13, 2016 12:18 AM (9ym/8)

342 Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 13, 2016 12:16 AM (hVdx9)
***
I used to work in microfilm and microfiche, both.

Man, I could splice a snapped reel of microfilm in like ten minutes, flat.

And de-accessioning microfiche - we'd save it up in a copy paper box and use it to decorate windows, or to make plate-mail costumes for Halloween.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:19 AM (/33sy)

343 Today, a young colleague of mine noticed my old Nikkormat camera, brought to document an important event.
>>>

Did you invite her back to your dark room?

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 12:19 AM (Nkdwp)

344 -
312
Hey, where all da infidel wimmen at?

Posted by: Sheriff Achmed Mohammed at February 13, 2016 12:08 AM
---------------------------

It's twue! It's twue! They like wape!

Posted by: Lili Von Shtupp (lately of Cologne, Germany)) at February 13, 2016 12:19 AM (DtNNC)

345 Tinfoil, you mean The Waitresses?

Their lead singer, sadly enough, already passed away. Cancer.

Call me crazy, I think the lyrics of this 1982 new wave song are near-Shakespearean. (Until near the end when they run out of ideas and just start shouting the name of the song, unfortunately)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXeBjLGuCGQ

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 13, 2016 12:19 AM (ntObR)

346 339 Palpatine/Tilikum, don't get me started.

Super 8, microfiche, open-reel audio...
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 13, 2016 12:17 AM (ntObR)
***
120 film, Rodinal and dark rooms....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:20 AM (/33sy)

347 Makes sense to me. You're taking up a table for a long time, even though you haven't spent that much money so you're costing the server a spot they could have had one or two more groups sit down there and tip. So you tip a bit more generously than whatever you did order would be expected

----------

I just didn't get the "drinking little or not at all" part

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 13, 2016 12:20 AM (sl+zA)

348 343 Today, a young colleague of mine noticed my old Nikkormat camera, brought to document an important event.
>>>

Did you invite her back to your dark room?

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 12:19 AM (Nkdwp)
***
Not her - she's not my type - but others......

let's just say many gorgeous things have developed in my dark room

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:21 AM (/33sy)

349 331 Unfortunately my latest hopeless starcrush is on Rebel Wilson. ;-)

Yes, she'll crush you, alright.

Posted by: Josephistan at February 13, 2016 12:15 AM (7qAYi)


I'm kind of partial to Rob Schneider's daughter, Elle King. She seems like she'd be quite fun. And probably would laugh at Christian Grey's idea of D/s and call him a pussy.

Posted by: buzzion at February 13, 2016 12:22 AM (zt+N6)

350 "My generation is sort of astride both analog and digital, so I am fairly at ease with both. "

Yeah there needs to be a term for us. You know, the poor saps who had to risk talking to someone's dad if you called them at home.

Posted by: Lauren at February 13, 2016 12:23 AM (3DIzJ)

351 Eh, I'm more provincial than I thought.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 13, 2016 12:23 AM (q2o38)

352 Palpatine/Tilikum, don't get me started.

Super 8, microfiche, open-reel audio...

Posted by: qdpsteve
****

8 track, MS-DOS, Commodore 64.... Atari 2600...

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 13, 2016 12:23 AM (hVdx9)

353 Super 8, microfiche, open-reel audio...

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 13, 2016 12:17 AM (ntObR)


Try recording on an 8-track. It was a pain in the ass when it was new technology. At least recording on a cassette, you could see the tape (or know the length of the tape) and time the recording not to be cut off.

Posted by: RickZ at February 13, 2016 12:23 AM (Ix+HS)

354 I would have made a great pickup artist in the 70s. My apartment literally has many fine etchings to look at.

Posted by: Josephistan at February 13, 2016 12:24 AM (7qAYi)

355 Palpy is..........a "different" sort you might say.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 13, 2016 12:24 AM (9ym/8)

356 let's just say many gorgeous things have developed in my dark room>>>

Part of my job is Industrial Radiography. I miss my darkroom. I even miss the smells.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 12:25 AM (Nkdwp)

357 RickZ, yeah, 8-track was an inferior medium from its inception. Thank god cassettes blew it away pretty quickly.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 13, 2016 12:26 AM (ntObR)

358 I miss my Commodore 64. A pretty solid machine.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 13, 2016 12:26 AM (NGd+i)

359 Oops, God. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 13, 2016 12:26 AM (ntObR)

360 It is odd, the digital-natives versus the rest of us - they have grown up in a world altogether different from our own....

I mean, things I took for granted as permanent features of the world - the Warsaw Pact, the Soviet Union (on the large scale), and people losing touch with each other when they move (on the smaller scale) are simply unimaginable to the under-30 crowd.

The idea of choosing to live in a university town, or a large city, because they have good libraries and museums makes no sense to them, but this is what people did since time immemorial....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:26 AM (/33sy)

361 355 Palpy is..........a "different" sort you might say.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 13, 2016 12:24 AM (9ym/
***
Yep...all the under-30 crowd can get off my lawn. Except for the cute girls...they can come inside....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:28 AM (/33sy)

362 Evening horde.

How goes it.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 13, 2016 12:29 AM (hlMPp)

363 356 let's just say many gorgeous things have developed in my dark room>>>

Part of my job is Industrial Radiography. I miss my darkroom. I even miss the smells.
Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 12:25 AM (Nkdwp)
***
glacial acetic acid reminds me of Gretchen.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:29 AM (/33sy)

364 Thank god cassettes blew it away pretty quickly.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 13, 2016 12:26 AM (ntObR)


Once, back in the early 90's, I saw someone's professional digital cassette recorder (smaller cassettes). I thought that was pretty stupid idea from the get-go.

Posted by: RickZ at February 13, 2016 12:30 AM (Ix+HS)

365 In high school we had a photography course. I'm glad my teacher wasn't a pedo gay with all the dark room time we spent together. Or maybe I was just ugly. New thing for me to fixate on if I gave a rats ass.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 12:30 AM (Nkdwp)

366 Debra Harry was my youth fantasy. Oh ya she was.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 13, 2016 12:30 AM (MSgeA)

367 glacial acetic acid reminds me of Gretchen.....>>>

LOL

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 12:31 AM (Nkdwp)

368 RickZ, oh yeah, the microcassette format.

Anybody else remember DAT tapes and recorders? I once knew someone who actually had a DAT walkman. It was actually an okay format, but the record companies killed it; they were scared shitless about piracy.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 13, 2016 12:31 AM (ntObR)

369 364 Thank god cassettes blew it away pretty quickly.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 13, 2016 12:26 AM (ntObR)

Once, back in the early 90's, I saw someone's professional digital cassette recorder (smaller cassettes). I thought that was pretty stupid idea from the get-go.
Posted by: RickZ at February 13, 2016 12:30 AM (Ix+HS)
***
Reminds me of the digital backs they make for Hassy's - it's a stupid sort of bridge-technology that reminds me of the first copper axes, cast in imitation of the stone ones, right down to the flake-marks on the surface.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:31 AM (/33sy)

370 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:26 AM (/33sy)

Oddest thing I have noticed is kids (high school age) don't go out.

Have they ever hung out at McDonalds or Taco Bell until someone finds a party. Do they know what a party train is? (Granted, had many firearms pointed at my face due to a faulty party train but at least I was out experiencing it.)

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 13, 2016 12:32 AM (hlMPp)

371 367 glacial acetic acid reminds me of Gretchen.....>>>

LOL
Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 12:31 AM (Nkdwp)
***
laugh all you want - she was beautiful in the safe-light.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:32 AM (/33sy)

372 "Except for the cute girls...they can come inside...."


You spew so much BS. I like you, take this no wrong way. You don't insult or attack.


Come on. "Nieces" and "Asian wives." All the time?


Put up a pic or something.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 13, 2016 12:33 AM (9ym/8)

373 I wouldn't say Adblock is being nefarious, they added an option a while back to let through some ads that as long as they were somewhat reasonable, and users can easily disable that or add more rules blocking ones they don't like. They even have a link explaining all of this in the settings: https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads

It might be opt-out instead of in, but it's not like it's hidden. The first page you see when you open the extension settings on chrome shows you that check box. And there are good reasons to make it be opt-out (besides them making more money, which to be honest they probably deserve given what a useful service they've provided).

Letting through some non-malicious ads by default is actually a good thing on average, because it probably slows down the arms-race by admins to disallow access entirely to users blocking ads and then users/filter trying to circumvent these prohibitions and on and on. Additionally some of the less technically inclined, but still able to install adblock, crowd may have trouble knowing how to whitelist sites they need to allow in order to get access to the content. Meanwhile the average user pretty much eliminates 99% of ads online just by unchecking that box and running a filter.

tl;dr: Adblock is still great and the people that don't care enough to even open the settings are doing the rest of us a favor.

Posted by: Sjg at February 13, 2016 12:34 AM (gDSJf)

374 laugh all you want - she was beautiful in the safe-light.....>>>

Don't pull the chain to hard or you'll wreck the film.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 12:34 AM (Nkdwp)

375 370 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:26 AM (/33sy)

Oddest thing I have noticed is kids (high school age) don't go out.

Have they ever hung out at McDonalds or Taco Bell until someone finds a party. Do they know what a party train is? (Granted, had many firearms pointed at my face due to a faulty party train but at least I was out experiencing it.)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 13, 2016 12:32 AM (hlMPp)
***
Social media is for them what the McDonald's or BK or Taco Bell was for us.... whether it's an improvement, a devolution, or just a different path, is more than I know.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:34 AM (/33sy)

376 Cicero: Wait, what?

Yeah, I'm sorry, that was confusing. Let me rephrase.

Cette remorque a été approuvé para todos los públicos. Tulipalon sattuessa, pārtraukums stikls. Πλύνετε τα χρώματα ξεχωριστά.

Posted by: mindful webworker - tip your waitress not the cow at February 13, 2016 12:35 AM (ACs58)

377 RWC,

My daughter, now in her mid-20s, would go out with her friends. That was about 10 years ago.

My son is 19. He hardly would go out with friends, unless it was to a movie. They just chat online.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at February 13, 2016 12:35 AM (rJUlF)

378 My son is 19. He hardly would go out with friends, unless it was to a movie. They just chat online.>>>

Kinda feel sorry for him.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 12:37 AM (Nkdwp)

379 Social media is for them what the McDonald's or BK or Taco Bell was for us.... whether it's an improvement, a devolution, or just a different path, is more than I know.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:34 AM (/33sy)


When you have a table with four people not talking to each other but rather furiously texting someone, often at their very table, then I vote 'devolution'.

Posted by: RickZ at February 13, 2016 12:38 AM (Ix+HS)

380 372 "Except for the cute girls...they can come inside...."


You spew so much BS. I like you, take this no wrong way. You don't insult or attack.


Come on. "Nieces" and "Asian wives." All the time?


Put up a pic or something.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 13, 2016 12:33 AM (9ym/
***
Not all the time, but google "David Metis" on Flickr.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:38 AM (/33sy)

381 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:26 AM (/33sy)

Oh, I totally get it and you're spot on with the social media taking place of hanging out. Why sit at a parking lot when you can text....although the random chick you meet....

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 13, 2016 12:39 AM (hlMPp)

382 Lawdy. I kind of remember DATs. I remember thinking that they were an uneeded update of outdated tech. For once I was right.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 13, 2016 12:39 AM (hVdx9)

383 "
Oddest thing I have noticed is kids (high school age) don't go out."

My nephew is 18 and doesn't have a driver's license. He doesn't want one. His sister told me he cried when his dad told him he needed to man up and get one.

Now, he's not completely irresponsible. He has a job. He just doesn't want to drive or go out.

I just don't get it at all.

Posted by: Lauren at February 13, 2016 12:40 AM (3DIzJ)

384 DATs

Dumb Ass Tankers?

Posted by: SMFH at February 13, 2016 12:40 AM (rlfds)

385 360
The idea of choosing to live in a university town, or a large city, because they have good libraries and museums makes no sense to them, but this is what people did since time immemorial....
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:26 AM (/33sy)


This might save us, since there is now no disadvantage to living in the country. Even people living in the boondocks have access to all of the stored knowledge of humanity. That was never the case before the internet.

Posted by: rickl at February 13, 2016 12:41 AM (sdi6R)

386 Few probably have their own car now that is a "piece of junk" but was cheap enough their parents could afford it. Few probably have a job that they can afford to regularly go out. And until recently if they did have those things gas prices were so high you didn't want to spend the night just driving around with your friends and everyone else doing the same thing so you wind up all meeting somewhere.

So all that probably factors into it too.

Posted by: buzzion at February 13, 2016 12:41 AM (zt+N6)

387
Digital
Audio
Tape

Posted by: Hanoverfist at February 13, 2016 12:42 AM (fOMps)

388 378

Well, he's an introvert, much like me. He does have a close circle of friends, but a lot of them moved away in the year leading up to, and following, his high school graduation.

Usually, he's the one telling ME to put my phone away.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at February 13, 2016 12:43 AM (rJUlF)

389
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at February 13, 2016 12:35 AM (rJUlF)

It's weird. I don't know how to feel about it. One hand...the kids are safe.

Other hand...the kids are safe.

They're basically having a party via FaceTime. I am so glad I was born when I was.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 13, 2016 12:43 AM (hlMPp)

390 Weren't portable DAT machines used by audience members to record a lot of concerts?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 13, 2016 12:43 AM (FkBIv)

391 He cried when told he needed to get a license? Wow.

My girls couldn't wait to get theirs.

And when I said they couldn't wait, they could. not. wait.

Especially my 14 year old at the time who thought it would be ohsofun to go joyriding in my truck with her friends, then get busted by the MPs.

Mixed blessing, that.

Posted by: SMFH at February 13, 2016 12:44 AM (rlfds)

392 "Not all the time, but google "David Metis" on Flickr....."


Going through Yahoo Hell now.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 13, 2016 12:44 AM (9ym/8)

393 Now, he's not completely irresponsible. He has a job. He just doesn't want to drive or go out.

I just don't get it at all.

Posted by: Lauren at February 13, 2016 12:40 AM (3DIzJ)


Cocooning. Leaving safe spaces is risky and dangerous.

Posted by: RickZ at February 13, 2016 12:44 AM (Ix+HS)

394 383

Lauren, CW Jr. didn't want to learn to drive, either...until he started working a few months ago. Now he's ready to learn, then save to get a car of his own.

So, there's hope on one small piece of the front.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at February 13, 2016 12:44 AM (rJUlF)

395 Reminds me of the digital backs they make for
Hassy's - it's a stupid sort of bridge-technology that reminds me of the
first copper axes, cast in imitation of the stone ones, right down to
the flake-marks on the surface.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:31 AM (/33sy)


The initial castings for hammers and axes had a central tang that went into a socket in the handle. This both mimicked stone tools and was a simpler casting technique. This later changed as the technology of casting bronze allowed for things like casting objects with holes for shafts.

However, my prize construction hammer, a weight forward Estwing, is forged with a central tang that fits into the socket grooved into the handle . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at February 13, 2016 12:45 AM (q2o38)

396 "Cocooning. Leaving safe spaces is risky and dangerous."

Yeah (to go back to the nurture argument) it probably has to do with him feeling insecure since their mother abandoned them when they were very young and has fluttered in and out of their life ever since.

Posted by: Lauren at February 13, 2016 12:47 AM (3DIzJ)

397 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 13, 2016 12:47 AM (YJmuy)

398 Good evening everyone

I always excused my large collection of books by thinking that I would host the library when civilization disappeared.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at February 13, 2016 12:47 AM (hipNa)

399 Posted by: Lauren at February 13, 2016 12:40 AM (3DIzJ)

He has an app to Uber.

*seriously, that right there makes me weep for our country.

He doesn't want to get his license and have semi-freedom.

Bad sign. Very bad sign.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 13, 2016 12:47 AM (hlMPp)

400
Few probably have their own car now that is a "piece of junk" but was cheap enough their parents could afford it.>>>

My daughters boyfriends are fucking useless at fixing cars. I know things are different but you never hung out at a buddies garage and learned anything? Fuck If i didn't know how to fix one I would have never driven in HS either.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 12:48 AM (Nkdwp)

401 We're going to be in competition then, AK.

Posted by: SMFH at February 13, 2016 12:48 AM (rlfds)

402 dead link on the KC-135/F-16 aviation story.

Posted by: Kromedome at February 13, 2016 12:48 AM (n2a+b)

403 "
And when I said they couldn't wait, they could. not. wait."

Yeah I got my license the day I turned 16. I tried to convince my mom to let me get a hardship license but since we were boringly middle class, that was not happening.

I was a terrible driver though because I'd never touched a car before drivers ed.

Apparently the drivers ed teachers hate the good little girls but love the wild boys because those boys have all been driving for years.

Posted by: Lauren at February 13, 2016 12:49 AM (3DIzJ)

404 "David Metis" gets some rappers. Some tennis playing.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 13, 2016 12:51 AM (9ym/8)

405 391 He cried when told he needed to get a license? Wow.

My girls couldn't wait to get theirs.

And when I said they couldn't wait, they could. not. wait.

Especially my 14 year old at the time who thought it would be ohsofun to go joyriding in my truck with her friends, then get busted by the MPs.

Mixed blessing, that.
Posted by: SMFH at February 13, 2016 12:44 AM (rlfds)

Did they think they'd be driving what momma drove? 'Cause I'd cry to after the realization I have a Civic instead of an Abrams.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 13, 2016 12:51 AM (hlMPp)

406 "
He has an app to Uber."

This is true, although his dad is strict so I'm not sure he's able to use it.

At this rate his little sister is going to get her license first. BIL doesn't want her walking to school on her own once her brother's out of high school.

Posted by: Lauren at February 13, 2016 12:51 AM (3DIzJ)

407 My daughters boyfriends are fucking useless at fixing cars. I know things are different but you never hung out at a buddies garage and learned anything? Fuck If i didn't know how to fix one I would have never driven in HS either.


Posted by: Willy J.
****
I have seen two schools of behavior on that one. I have seen kids that dive into car repair like it was a swimming pool. The other ones barely know more than how to put gas in it.
My dad MADE me help him when he worked on cars. As a result I can do a lot more than many people my age (gen X'er).

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 13, 2016 12:51 AM (hVdx9)

408 "Who is Daisy Ridley?"

English bird who's one the leads in the latest Star Wars movie.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 13, 2016 12:18 AM (9ym/

Ah yes, just another star in a movie I'll never see.

Posted by: Blano at February 13, 2016 12:52 AM (3eoPa)

409 Reading the comments by people who knew the two dead girls, you would think that one was not a murderer. It's all "you are both in heaven" type of crap. When did every effed up action become acceptable. Yes, I think the shooter was distrubed. But I also think she knew the difference between right and wrong.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 13, 2016 12:52 AM (iQIUe)

410 "Few probably have their own car now that is a "piece of junk" but was cheap enough their parents could afford i"

I had my grandparents old car. The dream of the 80s was alive in Texas.

Posted by: Lauren at February 13, 2016 12:52 AM (3DIzJ)

411 Apparently the drivers ed teachers hate the good little girls but love
the wild boys because those boys have all been driving for years.>>>

Not a wild boy but yes I started driving my brothers jeep out in the woods when I was 13. Hell even had my first fender bender with a tree before drivers ed.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 12:53 AM (Nkdwp)

412 I always excused my large collection of books by thinking that I would host the library when civilization disappeared.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at February 13, 2016 12:47 AM (hipNa)


I never make excuses for my books, besides the obligatory, "sorry, you have to move the books to sit down, not enough shelf space"

Posted by: Kindltot at February 13, 2016 12:53 AM (q2o38)

413 I had a F-150 Lariat Supercrew, black with silver trim and was built for muddin' in comfort.

Yeah, they couldn't wait.

Especially while I was deployed.

Stories are still trickling out to this day the hijinks my daughters were involved in with my truck while I was deployed.

Posted by: SMFH at February 13, 2016 12:54 AM (rlfds)

414 let's just say many gorgeous things have developed in my dark room

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:21 AM (/33sy)

You're just taunting us now.

Posted by: Blano at February 13, 2016 12:54 AM (3eoPa)

415 My daughters boyfriends are fucking useless at fixing cars. I know things are different but you never hung out at a buddies garage and learned anything? Fuck If i didn't know how to fix one I would have never driven in HS either.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 12:48 AM (Nkdwp)


With so much computer technology in cars today, it's difficult to be an amateur mechanic.

I didn't know the first thing about fixing a car when I was a kid, but I could still change the oil or a flat tire.

Maybe kids today just don't like getting dirty as even their playgrounds are covered in plastic.

Posted by: RickZ at February 13, 2016 12:54 AM (Ix+HS)

416 I'm smelling something. Not ozone.


But, bullshit.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 13, 2016 12:54 AM (9ym/8)

417 But yeah, they did get to drive an Abrams.

Between my truck and tanks, they're not fond of cars.

Posted by: SMFH at February 13, 2016 12:55 AM (rlfds)

418 Hi Ricardo : )

Posted by: SMFH at February 13, 2016 12:55 AM (rlfds)

419 Looks like somebody stabbed the shift console.

Posted by: Deety at February 13, 2016 12:56 AM (xPWMR)

420 I found the Dave Mettis Flickr page.

Posted by: buzzion at February 13, 2016 12:56 AM (zt+N6)

421 And yes I bought my first car. 1980 Buick LeSabre. 231 ci V6 2bbl. 0-60 in about 18 seconds.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 13, 2016 12:56 AM (hVdx9)

422 414 let's just say many gorgeous things have developed in my dark room

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:21 AM (/33sy)

You're just taunting us now.
Posted by: Blano at February 13, 2016 12:54 AM (3eoPa)
***
"Gloating." The word you're grasping for is "gloating."

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:56 AM (/33sy)

423 My dad MADE me help him when he worked on cars.

I got my ass chewed for using a 9/16 open end to fix my own bike. Not because I didn't put it back, because somebody else hadn't put the previous one back.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 13, 2016 12:56 AM (YJmuy)

424 AF Times has a story on the KC-135 crew saving the F-16
(Just search it, my phone won't let me copy and paste in the comment box)

Posted by: pookysgirl at February 13, 2016 12:56 AM (K27gs)

425 SMFH,
I think we could cooperate rather than compete, considering distance between us and possible different interests. Books do make good friends, don't they?

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at February 13, 2016 12:57 AM (hipNa)

426 I sat in the family car behind the wheel at age 14 until I could get my license at age 16. I was ready. I also wanted to go away to college and live on my own. Kids are so weird these days.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 13, 2016 12:57 AM (iQIUe)

427 You have to Google the Flikr part, too RK. It's legit, there are lots of pics of graduation, orchids, lupins, pretty little girls..

Posted by: prewittlassie at February 13, 2016 12:57 AM (WjuJ3)

428 "Hi Ricardo : )"


Howdy, SMFH. How's the world for you?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 13, 2016 12:57 AM (9ym/8)

429 SSDD, as usual, but at least I'm still vertical.

How about yourself?

Posted by: SMFH at February 13, 2016 12:58 AM (rlfds)

430 My dad MADE me help him when he worked on cars. As a result I can do a lot more than many people my age (gen X'er).>>>

I bought both my girls first cars for them ($1400ish) And then made them pay insurance and gas. Repairs were buy the parts and stand by me to fetch tools. They know more about cars then their boyfriends. Actually they got bored enough watching to do some of the work.

I am way proud of my daughters. Hope I do better with teaching the grandkids male and female.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 12:59 AM (Nkdwp)

431 Yes they do AK.

Pity that the actual reading of them is becoming a lost art.

Posted by: SMFH at February 13, 2016 01:00 AM (rlfds)

432 I got my ass chewed for using a 9/16 open end to fix my own bike. Not because I didn't put it back, because somebody else hadn't put the previous one back.


Posted by: Blanco Basura
****

My dad always reminded me when I failed to put a tool back where I'd found it.
In an uncanny coincidence I seemed to be able to know what tool he would need in advance...and "hide" it from him.
God I miss him.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 13, 2016 01:00 AM (hVdx9)

433 With so much computer technology in cars today, it's difficult to be an amateur mechanic.

Posted by: RickZ at February 13, 2016 12:54 AM (Ix+HS)


Heck, with all the copyright protection for the computer hardware/software, it can be downright illegal to try to fix a newer car.

Posted by: A Digital Hat at February 13, 2016 01:00 AM (vBeA5)

434 "I found the Dave Mettis Flickr page."


Go ahead, clue me in. Nada.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 13, 2016 01:01 AM (9ym/8)

435 dead link on the KC-135/F-16 aviation story.
Posted by: Kromedome
---------

try http://tinyurl.com/guw7lwb

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 13, 2016 01:02 AM (RrDm2)

436 God I miss him.

No better testament can be given by a son about his father.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 13, 2016 01:02 AM (YJmuy)

437 403
"

And when I said they couldn't wait, they could. not. wait."



Yeah I got my license the day I turned 16. I tried to convince my
mom to let me get a hardship license but since we were boringly middle
class, that was not happening.



I was a terrible driver though because I'd never touched a car before drivers ed.



Apparently the drivers ed teachers hate the good little girls but
love the wild boys because those boys have all been driving for years.

Posted by: Lauren at February 13, 2016 12:49 AM (3DIzJ)


One memorable moment from Driver's Ed -- the instructor says, "turn into the next driveway"....before we fully engage the previous one. I didn't quite get up on two wheels and was fully in-control of the car at all times, though high g-forces were involved. I was thinking, "stuck that landing!", but when I looked over at the poor bastard he was white as a sheet.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 13, 2016 01:03 AM (EzgxV)

438 Google David Metis Flickr.

Posted by: buzzion at February 13, 2016 01:03 AM (zt+N6)

439
Driver's Lic. at 14
Spent my time trying to hotrod my '51 Plymouth.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 13, 2016 01:03 AM (RrDm2)

440 My girls couldn't wait to get theirs.

And when I said they couldn't wait, they could. not. wait.

Especially my 14 year old at the time who thought it would be ohsofun to go joyriding in my truck with her friends, then get busted by the MPs.

Mixed blessing, that.

Posted by: SMFH at February 13, 2016 12:44 AM (rlfds)

I got my daughter a car before she turned 16, so for a few months she couldn't drive it without me (she lived with me the last 3 years of high school). It was killing her she couldn't drive unsupervised.

On her 16th birthday she drove me to the gas station, I filled the tank, then she drove me back home.

She pulled in the driveway, stopped and said "Dad, I love you very much....NOW GET OUT."

I got out, and away she went.

Posted by: Blano at February 13, 2016 01:03 AM (3eoPa)

441 No, there never is enough book shelf space.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at February 13, 2016 01:04 AM (hipNa)

442 With so much computer technology in cars today, it's difficult to be an amateur mechanic.>>>

Get yourself an OBD code reader (under $100) and most minor repairs are bolt on.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 01:05 AM (Nkdwp)

443 who flong poo?

Posted by: dogge at February 13, 2016 01:05 AM (AG7GB)

444 I bought both my girls first cars for them ($1400ish) And then made them pay insurance and gas. Repairs were buy the parts and stand by me to fetch tools. They know more about cars then their boyfriends. Actually they got bored enough watching to do some of the work.

I am way proud of my daughters. Hope I do better with teaching the grandkids male and female.


Posted by: Willy J

Sounds like you did a good job. When it came to my own car, my dad would give me advice and explain things, but it was up to me to fix. He might supervise, but I understood it was on me to do it.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 13, 2016 01:05 AM (hVdx9)

445 I have seen two schools of behavior on that one. I have seen kids that dive into car repair like it was a swimming pool. The other ones barely know more than how to put gas in it.
My dad MADE me help him when he worked on cars. As a result I can do a lot more than many people my age (gen X'er).

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 13, 2016 12:51 AM (hVdx9)

I read books.

Posted by: Blano at February 13, 2016 01:06 AM (3eoPa)

446 Learned to drive on dirt roads. I had to set up a simulated 'parking space' using bamboo poles in order to practice parallel parking. On the upside, I could drive with impunity, because there wasn't a Sheriff's deputy within 20 miles.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 13, 2016 01:06 AM (RrDm2)

447 Gonna call it a night. Thanks everyone for the great chat. Happy weekend!

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 13, 2016 01:06 AM (ntObR)

448 https://www.flickr.com/photos/david_metis/

Posted by: prewittlassie at February 13, 2016 01:07 AM (WjuJ3)

449 You're just taunting us now.
Posted by: Blano at February 13, 2016 12:54 AM (3eoPa)
***
"Gloating." The word you're grasping for is "gloating."

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:56 AM (/33sy)

Yeah that too.

Posted by: Blano at February 13, 2016 01:07 AM (3eoPa)

450 well good night all

Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 13, 2016 01:07 AM (uZNvH)

451 Get yourself an OBD code reader (under $100) and most minor repairs are bolt on.


Posted by: Willy J
****

I second that. Stuff that may cost $300 at a mechanic's shop can be done for $50-$60 sometimes.
I have saved thousands by working on my cars.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 13, 2016 01:08 AM (hVdx9)

452 The school library had Motors Manuals. I read them like novels.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 13, 2016 01:08 AM (RrDm2)

453 I read books.

Posted by: Blano
****
Haynes? Chilton? I read those too.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 13, 2016 01:09 AM (hVdx9)

454 When I took drivers ed, we had stick shift Opels. Many a donut was pulled during drivers ed.

I actually think a stick shift is the best protection against car theft. No one today seems to know how to drive stick. I still love sticks. It gives one's left leg something to do in daylight; at night, in an automatic, the left foot only hit the hi-beam button on the floorboard.

Posted by: RickZ at February 13, 2016 01:09 AM (Ix+HS)

455 My kids weren't in a hurry to drive, when it became a necessity in their life, they learned. One small deterrent was the large cost of drivers Ed class

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at February 13, 2016 01:09 AM (hipNa)

456 "Google David Metis Flickr."


Okay. Few pictures of some Asian chicks. Also pics of fauna and flora. Some B&W's.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 13, 2016 01:10 AM (9ym/8)

457 the left foot only hit the hi-beam button on the floorboard.
Posted by: RickZ
---------------

Heh. Next, you'll be telling us that the wiper switch was on the dashboard..., and the car had vent windows.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 13, 2016 01:10 AM (RrDm2)

458 Haynes? Chilton? I read those too.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 13, 2016 01:09 AM (hVdx9)

Nah, I was reading Collier's Encyclopedia, World Book Encyclopedia, etc. etc. while everybody else was working on cars.

Posted by: Blano at February 13, 2016 01:11 AM (3eoPa)

459 I got out, and away she went.
Posted by: Blano


Did she come back?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 13, 2016 01:11 AM (FkBIv)

460 Sounds like you did a good job. When it came to my own car, my dad would
give me advice and explain things, but it was up to me to fix.>>>

My dad knew dick about cars. Luckily I had older brothers and friends. Not to dis my dad though he did teach me a crapload about plumbing and electrical. If any of what he taught me is to code will be decided after the first fire or flood.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 01:11 AM (Nkdwp)

461 in an automatic, the left foot only hit the hi-beam button on the floorboard.

That's what I hate about the newer cars. They put the high beam switch on a stalk coming out of the steering column, and I can never get my left foot up there.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 13, 2016 01:13 AM (YJmuy)

462 My grandpa had a little hobby business flipping clunkers. He taught me a bit. Wish I knew more though. I have fond memories of going to Pull-A-Part with him.

Mostly because I thought the name was incredibly clever.

Posted by: Lauren at February 13, 2016 01:13 AM (3DIzJ)

463 All, right. Palpy keep shooting. It's getting time for me.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 13, 2016 01:14 AM (9ym/8)

464 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96EChBYVFhU

Hardcore Henry. I saw the parking garage scene in it's entirety, and the stunt work in this movie is incredible.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 13, 2016 01:14 AM (VdICR)

465 426
I sat in the family car behind the wheel at age 14 until I could get my
license at age 16. I was ready. I also wanted to go away to college and
live on my own. Kids are so weird these days.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 13, 2016 12:57 AM (iQIUe)


My parents felt it was important for me to know the controls to the point they had me driving in some open fields when I was about 10. My biggest 13th birthday present was a motorcycle.

One of my earliest memories was reaching up to tug my mom's skirt in a department store and asking her, "do you know what happens when you push the red button on the escalator?" -- then watching the dawning horror in her expression before telling her, "it stops." I was probably about five.

My parents soon determined that they'd better tell me everything in advance because I might cause incalculable damage figuring things out on my own.....and I was a curious child.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 13, 2016 01:15 AM (EzgxV)

466 I second that. Stuff that may cost $300 at a mechanic's shop can be done for $50-$60 sometimes.>>>

I now buy a lot parts from Rockauto or PartsGeek. Just got new rotors for the kids car. Got 2 rotors delivered to my house for the price of one at the parts store in town. Same for a lot of parts but it is still cheaper to go to the parts store for anything that requires a core charge.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 01:18 AM (Nkdwp)

467 Heh. Next, you'll be telling us that the wiper switch was on the dashboard..., and the car had vent windows.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 13, 2016 01:10 AM (RrDm2)


Front seat side vent windows were great! My '70 VW Squareback didn't have a/c, so using that side vent window got the outside air blowing right on me.

I also loved the stick in that car because I could glide in neutral toward a traffic light, kicking it into gear as the light turned green. I loved driving on curvy mountain roads with a stick, downshifting in the turns. Sticks give great gas mileage. A bunch of us would pile into the car, pool our money to get $5 for gas, then drive around all night.

Posted by: RickZ at February 13, 2016 01:19 AM (Ix+HS)

468 I actually think a stick shift is the best protection against car theft. No one today seems to know how to drive stick. I still love sticks. It gives one's left leg something to do in daylight; at night, in an automatic, the left foot only hit the hi-beam button on the floorboard.

Posted by: RickZ
****

You just jogged a childhood memory.
From time to time I played around in my dad's van, sitting in the driver's seat and pretending to drive. I was pushing the high beam switch on the floor over and over. Now I had no idea what it was, but I eventually learned.
At times my dad would be out driving at night and drivers were flashing their lights at him. He was wondering WTH was going on as HE didn't turn on the high beams. He looked down and saw the HB light was on.
One day I asked him what the switch was for. He told me and I replied that no lights came on when I pushed it. That is when it clicked for him. He had thought there was some kind of short in the wiring or whatever because he had replaced the "malfunctioning" switch a couple times.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 13, 2016 01:20 AM (hVdx9)

469 Several additional books could be written on what I don't know about cars, etc, sad but true

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at February 13, 2016 01:21 AM (hipNa)

470 My driver's license is up for renewal this year. The eye doc told me last year I wouldn't be able to pass it without glasses, don't even try. But I think I'm going to give it a try. I hate glasses, and I don't want that stamped on the license if I can possibly avoid it.

I was driving when my legs were long enough for the feet to reach the pedals. Tractors and farm machinery. I think I drove a truck, a big truck, before I even tried a passenger car. This was out in fields and off public roads. There was no (and still isn't) a license requirement for tractors on public roads and I did that well before I got a license.

I did sneak and drive some on the road a little but my father put a stop to that quickly fearing the liability.

Hell, IIRC, I flunked the on-road driver's test and had to re-take the damn thing. I just used one hand on the wheel a time or two and didn't come to a complete stop before making a left-hand turn at a stop sign or something. The cop giving the test just didn't like me, I could tell.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at February 13, 2016 01:21 AM (dvuhZ)

471 They put the high beam switch on a stalk coming out of the steering column, and I can never get my left foot up there.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 13, 2016 01:13 AM (YJmuy)


If Hillarity! can take yoga classes, so can you.

Posted by: RickZ at February 13, 2016 01:22 AM (Ix+HS)

472 Heh. Next, you'll be telling us that the wiper switch was on the dashboard..., and the car had vent windows.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc
****

No vent windows on my LeSabre, but wiper switch was on the dash as was the headlight switch.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 13, 2016 01:22 AM (hVdx9)

473 Ha, but I can drive a stick, I guess these days that's something

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at February 13, 2016 01:23 AM (hipNa)

474 I got out, and away she went.
Posted by: Blano

Did she come back?


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 13, 2016 01:11 AM (FkBIv)

Oh yes, and never violated curfew. She knew better.

Posted by: Blano at February 13, 2016 01:23 AM (3eoPa)

475 454
When I took drivers ed, we had stick shift Opels. Many a donut was pulled during drivers ed.



I actually think a stick shift is the best protection against car
theft. No one today seems to know how to drive stick. I still love
sticks. It gives one's left leg something to do in daylight; at night,
in an automatic, the left foot only hit the hi-beam button on the
floorboard.

Posted by: RickZ at February 13, 2016 01:09 AM (Ix+HS)


Current car is a 1994 Honda Accord Wagon with California emissions, the EX trim line, with a stick. When I bought it, there were only 14 in dealer inventory.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 13, 2016 01:23 AM (EzgxV)

476 Several additional books could be written on what I don't know about cars, etc, sad but true

Posted by: AmericanKestrel>>>

There are several books written about the crap I don't know that you do also. I just liked cars and was in the right place at the right time.

I because I didn't do the school learning crap am only saved by the fix it rap I learned.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 01:26 AM (Nkdwp)

477 'Twas a long night at work. 'Night all.

Posted by: Blano at February 13, 2016 01:27 AM (3eoPa)

478 I remember how well the electrical switch that lived on the salty wet floor of the car for high beams used to work.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 01:30 AM (Nkdwp)

479 Willy J,
Fixing, working on cars is such a good practical knowledge, I'm glad it's a strength of yours. It's a skill that will always be useful.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at February 13, 2016 01:32 AM (hipNa)

480 I remember how well the electrical switch that lived on the salty wet floor of the car for high beams used to work./i]

Don't drive on the beach during high tide.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 13, 2016 01:34 AM (YJmuy)

481 Heh, saved by embedded close tags.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 13, 2016 01:35 AM (YJmuy)

482 Don't drive on the beach during high tide.>>>

Always always people telling me what not to do!

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 01:36 AM (Nkdwp)

483 478, sounds like a good story, want to tell?

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at February 13, 2016 01:38 AM (hipNa)

484 "My" first car (given to me by my parents) was a 1979 Ford Mustang. Meant to be a babe-magnet, it taught me all sorts of things about mechanisms, most of them cautionary. It went through two starters, a ring gear, two carbs, a tranny, a water pump, so many thermostats that I just left the damned thing out (California). It chewed up multiple tires until I found out (pre-internet) that the factory toe-in specs were just wrong. It ate valve-cover gaskets like candy -- the valve covers had a markedly different expansion coefficient than the heads, so the gaskets would get sheared twice every time the temperature cycled up-and-back.




I eventually sold it to a random stranger and bought a Nissan Sentra that was so stripped it didn't even have a radio. Cost $4,709 out the door with sales tax, plates, delivery, and everything else. In my first year with the Sentra, my down payment and monthly payments were less than I'd spent the previous 12 months in repair bills for the Mustang.



It's funny how much your attitude changes when it's your own money.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 13, 2016 01:43 AM (EzgxV)

485 As someone who has worked in food server positions A LOT, i agree with Lauren that restaurants as we know them would cease to exist with a 15 dollar min wage. People are your highest expense usually as a business owner and tipped positions allow the customer to take a more active role as a sort of secondary employer, increasing the wages of the server and lowering the costs of the restaurant.

I for one welcome our new robot overlords and never speaking to another human being as i order my food /sarc

Now to trundle off to bed. Took gramma to see Romeo and Juliette ballet tonight. Long and good. Now there were some dumb kids who did not get to live long enough to learn from their mistakes.

Posted by: Sugar Plum Fairy #176-671 at February 13, 2016 01:44 AM (CjKGu)

486 It's funny how much your attitude changes when it's your own money.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 13, 2016 01:43 AM (EzgxV)


Hence the appeal of Feel the Burn-ie.

Posted by: RickZ at February 13, 2016 01:45 AM (Ix+HS)

487 Always always people telling me what not to do!

You complain about a problem, I tell you how to avoid the problem and you complain about that.

If you were drowning in a vat of whiskey, would you also complain about how fast we were draining it with our shot glasses?

Not that any of the horde would complain about that in the first place...

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 13, 2016 01:45 AM (YJmuy)

488 478, sounds like a good story, want to tell?>>>

Not interesting. Just a joke on some one else hearkening back to when the high beam switch was on the floor of the car. In the north the floor of the car where the switch lived is a salty wet place. And required replacement regularly. Or at least taking apart and cleaning. Something post 70s car mechanics will never enjoy the fondling of parts in alcohol and lube and the work again.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 01:46 AM (Nkdwp)

489 Good night all

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at February 13, 2016 01:47 AM (hipNa)

490 )

470
My driver's license is up for renewal this year. The eye doc told me
last year I wouldn't be able to pass it without glasses, don't even try.
But I think I'm going to give it a try. I hate glasses, and I don't
want that stamped on the license if I can possibly avoid it.

I
was driving when my legs were long enough for the feet to reach the
pedals. Tractors and farm machinery. I think I drove a truck, a big
truck, before I even tried a passenger car. This was out in fields and
off public roads. There was no (and still isn't) a license requirement
for tractors on public roads and I did that well before I got a license.


I did sneak and drive some on the road a little but my father put a stop to that quickly fearing the liability.

Hell,
IIRC, I flunked the on-road driver's test and had to re-take the damn
thing. I just used one hand on the wheel a time or two and didn't come
to a complete stop before making a left-hand turn at a stop sign or
something. The cop giving the test just didn't like me, I could tell.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at February 13, 2016 01:21 AM (dvuhZ)


You don't want that stamped on your license because you might want to drive to the store to pick up your glasses -- and it's not like you're going to miss a truck in the next lane....most of the vision-intensive stuff is road signs, and you likely already know what they're going to say. Back pre-LASIK when my vision was really bad, I'd just memorize the charts in advance of the test -- they could have thrown a hood over my head and faced me the other way.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 13, 2016 01:49 AM (EzgxV)

491
If you were drowning in a vat of whiskey, would you also complain about how fast we were draining it with our shot glasses?

*glub* bastards are playin' quarters!*glub glub*

Posted by: Hanoverfist at February 13, 2016 01:51 AM (fOMps)

492 Pretty weird using google street to revisit all the places of your life.

Posted by: eleven at February 13, 2016 01:52 AM (qUNWi)

493 If you were drowning in a vat of whiskey, would you also complain about how fast we were draining it with our shot glasses?>>>

The Irish in me says you're right.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 01:53 AM (Nkdwp)

494 Crap that was supposed to be a hillary sock.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at February 13, 2016 01:53 AM (fOMps)

495 492
Pretty weird using google street to revisit all the places of your life.

Posted by: eleven at February 13, 2016 01:52 AM (qUNWi)


Could be worse.....could have a cyberstalker visiting the current places in your life.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 13, 2016 01:57 AM (EzgxV)

496 If I tried to drive without my glasses I would kill someone within 100 ft. Without them all I can see is vaguely colored blobs.

Posted by: Lauren at February 13, 2016 02:01 AM (3DIzJ)

497 caroolina needs a new

Posted by: quarter bxck at February 13, 2016 02:03 AM (AG7GB)

498 399 Posted by: Lauren at February 13, 2016 12:40 AM (3DIzJ) He has an app to Uber. *seriously, that right there makes me weep for our country. He doesn't want to get his license and have semi-freedom. Bad sign. Very bad sign. Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 13, 2016 12:47 AM (hlMPp)

Is it cheaper, though? I'm trying to think how much travel it takes before it's more economical to own a car. I'm thinking a lot.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 13, 2016 02:04 AM (VdICR)

499 it doesn't matter

maybe russel melststob

Posted by: black or white at February 13, 2016 02:05 AM (AG7GB)

500
496
If I tried to drive without my glasses I would kill someone within 100 ft. Without them all I can see is vaguely colored blobs.

Posted by: Lauren at February 13, 2016 02:01 AM (3DIzJ)


Even with four diopters of astigmatism, I could avoid the blobs.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 13, 2016 02:07 AM (EzgxV)

501 zwbra power

Posted by: run home, lttle boy at February 13, 2016 02:07 AM (AG7GB)

502 Is it cheaper, though? I'm trying to think how much travel it takes
before it's more economical to own a car. I'm thinking a lot.>>>

Not to be conspiratorial but is this just more leftist crap fed to kids in school. Back in my day a car meant freedom. They slowly hammer in a car means something else and normal males quit wanting one. I don't know they didn't teach me.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 02:10 AM (Nkdwp)

503 A link to the Steam organ cover of Cyndi Lauper.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 12, 2016 10:27 PM (iHjB5)


A steam organ is a calliope, no?


Please to be ceasing the bending of the underfoot foliage.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 13, 2016 02:11 AM (Z8fuk)

504 I had a pretty good day today. I can tell when I am in a good mood because I start wondering things, like today, if a Wankel rotary engine design could be retrofitted to be used as a pump.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 12, 2016 10:28 PM (q2o3


You could pump gases with it, e.g. air. Not liquids, because they are incompressible, at least to any practical extent.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 13, 2016 02:13 AM (Z8fuk)

505 Please to be ceasing the bending of the underfoot foliage.>>>

=get off my lawn?

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 02:14 AM (Nkdwp)

506 A steam organ is a calliope, no?

Depends ...

You know PDQ Bach?

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at February 13, 2016 02:15 AM (AoK0a)

507 AG7GB seems to be falling apart.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 13, 2016 02:19 AM (EzgxV)

508 I had a pretty good day today. I can tell when I am in a good mood
because I start wondering things, like today, if a Wankel rotary engine
design could be retrofitted to be used as a pump.>>>

At the right speed it would be a wonderful water pump. At pressure it might be lacking. Hell really thin wankles pump water or as there better known turbines.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 02:20 AM (Nkdwp)

509 508 as a retrofit yes there original configuration makes them a bad pump. Bur as a junkyard find they will do dandy.

Posted by: Willy J. at February 13, 2016 02:24 AM (Nkdwp)

510 Snowing... and 27 deg. here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 12, 2016 11:12 PM (yddCj)


Heh. Close to 80 here in Apache Junction. Lovin' it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 13, 2016 02:24 AM (Z8fuk)

511 My Dad was an Italian immigrant and knew nothing about cars other than how to drive, which he learned in the States. But he thought sport cars looked nice so in 62 he bought a 59 Vette.

I turned 15 in 64, got my license and he started letting me drive it after he got home from work. I learned a lot about driving in a hurry and if I hadn't I wouldn't be here to tell the tale.

Posted by: Al Sharpturd at February 13, 2016 02:28 AM (3myMJ)

512 Three small miracles here, first, I remembered something from the dim past, second I actually found the stuff, third, it's the right wire.

Hoarding hourder scores!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 12, 2016 11:22 PM (yddCj)


Woo-Hoo! I wouldn't know or recognize Type J thermocouple wire if somebody tried to strangle me with it, but being a hoarder, I have had that same experience of suddenly striking gold in my own stash.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 13, 2016 02:29 AM (Z8fuk)

513 off old sock

Posted by: Meremortal at February 13, 2016 02:30 AM (3myMJ)

514 As she handed me a sample warm from the oven, she warned me, these are not chocolate, they're molasses. And those aren't chocolate chips, they're currents.


Posted by: mindful webworker - nom nom nom at February 12, 2016 11:41 PM (ACs5


AC or DC?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 13, 2016 02:35 AM (Z8fuk)

515 Professional pearl diver circa 1960s - waitresses did not share tips. Owner tipped me with packs of Camels.
Good tip on CBDs - except dealer/repair stuff. If you can't fix it, you really don't own it.

"Something post 70s car mechanics will never enjoy the fondling of parts in alcohol and lube and the work again."
This!
Thanks Morons for keeping me sane!

Posted by: stonecutter at February 13, 2016 02:36 AM (2ReCv)

516 One of the other drivers last night had the woman show up completely naked at the door to pay.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 12, 2016 11:49 PM (9ltS


One hopes he gave her more than just the tip.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 13, 2016 02:38 AM (Z8fuk)

517 One of the other drivers last night had the woman show up completely naked at the door to pay.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert
****

We all assume she was some svelte, sexy woman and not some 300 pounder...

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at February 13, 2016 02:41 AM (hVdx9)

518 AC or DC?

What a shocking question.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 13, 2016 02:43 AM (YJmuy)

519 I'm up too late.

Going to rectify that now.

Wanted to talk about learning to drive on the old Allis tractor and go-karts, and when I was teaching my twin sons to drive, and we got stopped by a cop, but I'll save all that for another night.

Good night, laddies and ladies and all the slips at hee.

Posted by: mindful webworker - eventually at February 13, 2016 02:43 AM (Q1QrS)

520 One of the other drivers last night had the woman show up completely naked at the door to pay.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert

Bow-Chika-Bow-Bow

Posted by: Tucker at February 13, 2016 02:52 AM (fOMps)

521 Super 8, microfiche, open-reel audio...
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 13, 2016 12:17 AM (ntObR)
***
120 film, Rodinal and dark rooms....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 13, 2016 12:20 AM (/33sy)


Brings back memories. When I was about ten years old, and kinda-sorta interested in photography, one of my father's friends, Vernon (long deceased, RIP) said to me, "So, why don't you try developing and printing your own pictures?" I said, "I don't think I could possibly learn to do something that difficult." He tells me, "It's only difficult if you never try it." So he laid on me some chemicals, trays, a contact print frame, a safelight, a timer, and a big box of ancient Xray film, which he said would work fine in the back of old view cameras, if I cut it to size. And damn if it didn't. I got to be quite proficient at it. And it wasn't hard at all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 13, 2016 02:55 AM (Z8fuk)

522 Few probably have their own car now that is a "piece of junk" but was cheap enough their parents could afford it. Few probably have a job that they can afford to regularly go out. And until recently if they did have those things gas prices were so high you didn't want to spend the night just driving around with your friends and everyone else doing the same thing so you wind up all meeting somewhere.

So all that probably factors into it too.

Posted by: buzzion at February 13, 2016 12:41 AM (zt+N6)


My first car cost me $25. It was a 1951 Studebaker Champion, and while it was tired, and had a dent in the right rear door, it was no POS. I sold it a year later for $100, and figured I was so damned smart. What I wouldn't give for a '51 Champion in that shape now...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 13, 2016 03:02 AM (Z8fuk)

523 AC or DC?

What a shocking question.


Not for a well grounded philosopher ...

Posted by: Adriane the Music Critic ... at February 13, 2016 03:05 AM (AoK0a)

524 G'night everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 13, 2016 03:05 AM (YJmuy)

525 Looks like somebody stabbed the shift console.

Posted by: Deety at February 13, 2016 12:56 AM (xPWMR)


Hey Deety! Long time, no see here. Hope you are well.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 13, 2016 03:07 AM (Z8fuk)

526 I use to dream about owning or buying gutted out stick shift cars for less than a $100 bucks that drove like dreams. I would have fun driving them and consider myself so lucky and then forget where I parked them.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 13, 2016 03:09 AM (iQIUe)

527 at night, in an automatic, the left foot only hit the hi-beam button on the floorboard.

Posted by: RickZ at February 13, 2016 01:09 AM (Ix+HS)


Man, it's been a long time since the dimmer switch was on the floorboard, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 13, 2016 03:12 AM (Z8fuk)

528 Heh. Next, you'll be telling us that the wiper switch was on the dashboard..., and the car had vent windows.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 13, 2016 01:10 AM (RrDm2)


Naw, the wiper switch was on top of the dash, directly under the middle of the windshield, which is the logical place for it, no?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 13, 2016 03:14 AM (Z8fuk)

529 526 I use to dream about owning or buying gutted out stick shift cars for less than a $100 bucks that drove like dreams. I would have fun driving them and consider myself so lucky and then forget where I parked them.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 13, 2016 03:09 AM (iQIUe)

Someone has lots of unpaid parking tickets.

Posted by: The Dream Police at February 13, 2016 03:15 AM (fOMps)

530 Trump: I'll sue to disqualify Cruz

Oh, how Obamaesque.


In his [Obama's] first race for office, seeking a state Senate seat on Chicago's gritty South Side in 1996, Obama effectively used election rules to eliminate his Democratic competition.

As a community organizer, he had helped register thousands of voters. But when it came time to run for office, he employed Chicago rules to invalidate the voting petition signatures of three of his challengers.

The move denied each of them, including incumbent Alice Palmer, a longtime Chicago activist, a place on the ballot. It cleared the way for Obama to run unopposed on the Democratic ticket in a heavily Democrat district.

"That was Chicago politics," said John Kass, a veteran Chicago Tribune columnist. "Knock out your opposition, challenge their petitions, destroy your enemy, right? It is how Barack Obama destroyed his enemies back in 1996 that conflicts with his message today. He may have gotten his start registering thousands of voters. But in that first race, he made sure voters had just one choice."

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 13, 2016 03:20 AM (e8kgV)

531 You guys are killing me with these first cars. Mine was a 1961 Mercury Comet. It still had some fins on the back, an AM only radio and a six cylinder engine that took up about one-tenth of the engine compartment. Plenty of room to reach everything. The body was apparently made from old battleships since the thing weighed a ton. the previous owner was actually a little old lady who didn't drive it much. (Small town; everybody knew everybody else and their vehicles.) I would, at least, injure people to have it back in the same condition today.

Or else a 1974 VW SuperBeetle. Another treasure.

Le Sigh!

Posted by: JTB at February 13, 2016 04:44 AM (FvdPb)

532 My first car was a 1972 Mustang, it had the most common engine but that car could move.

Posted by: Skip at February 13, 2016 05:22 AM (BkhW6)

533 Millenials are morons. They think Venezuela pitched for the Dodgers sometime before they were born.

Posted by: David at February 13, 2016 05:33 AM (TeSnk)

534 Schools from elementary to graduate are nothing but leftist seminary education.

Posted by: Skip at February 13, 2016 05:38 AM (BkhW6)

535 This foray into socialism won't end well (it never does) when you factor in possible amnesty for folks that have fled socialist leaning countries and you don't try to Americanize them.

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And looking at the Muslims pouring in, Americanization is known to be a filthy word among the left.

Also: the thing is, it's worse down the road and people today have NO inkling of doing anything for their offspring.

Offspring used to be the focus of people's thoughts. "I'll work this crappy job so my children won't have to." But now it's "Screw that! I want what I want and I want it now!"

Posted by: RKae at February 13, 2016 05:51 AM (lF8sf)

536 The most honest label that can be put on me? I am a Constitutionalist. The original documents state that my GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS will not be taken away by men.

Posted by: Eromero at February 13, 2016 05:54 AM (zLDYs)

537 Someone's late

Posted by: Skip at February 13, 2016 06:08 AM (BkhW6)

538
First car (well, truck) was a 1952 Chevy pick up, 5 window. All original. That was in 1980.

Posted by: Kudzu King at February 13, 2016 06:20 AM (CU2RV)

539 Morning, Peeps.

Posted by: fluffy at February 13, 2016 06:29 AM (AfsKp)

540 During the debate the old Bolshavik stated flat out he wanted 11,000,000 illegals made immediately citizens, Hildabeast agreed.

Posted by: Skip at February 13, 2016 06:32 AM (BkhW6)

541 Here is the deal. Our parents grew up, worked hard, had kids, taught them common sense, decency, and simple logic.

We grew up, worked hard, had kids, talked to the hand of the 25 year old living in our basements after them going trough 4+ years of schooling to not have a job or any decent prospects due to our wonderful politicians who foisted the part time economy on they're backs.

That being said I think we can correct the situation by tweaking Ocare, sending more companies out of country and issuing 500% more visas(to start with) to take the decent jobs at cheaper costs inside country.

Don't sweat it kids. The cavalry is on the way. (rolls eyes)

Posted by: Drider at February 13, 2016 06:33 AM (6Xbsz)

542
During the debate the old Bolshavik stated flat out he wanted 11,000,000 illegals made immediately citizens, Hildabeast agreed.

Posted by: Skip at February 13, 2016 06:32 AM (BkhW6)
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Heh,, what about the other 10+?

Posted by: Kudzu King at February 13, 2016 06:35 AM (CU2RV)

543 West Texas Intermediate couldn't handle the low and went up with by $3.23 yesterday, ending the week at $29.44/bbl.

Posted by: fluffy at February 13, 2016 06:36 AM (AfsKp)

544 In the clip the old Bolshavik said 11, Hildabeast I'm sure said 12

Posted by: Skip at February 13, 2016 06:44 AM (BkhW6)

545 You know who is anti-science? The folks that say human caused climate change is fact because 95% of scientists say it is. They call this 'consensus'. Consensus is opinion not science. So STFU already.

Posted by: Steve Walsh at February 13, 2016 06:45 AM (SPxQP)

546 First car was a 75 Mustang II Mach I which was just a paint job then. A Mach I with a 140 cid 4 cylinder.

But I thought it was cool as hell.

I look for Mustang IIs every once in a while for nostalgia but apparently they weren't very durable. All they made (a lot apparently) not many around. Also it seems many hot rods use Mustang II front suspensions so no doubt many were stripped just for that.

Posted by: blaster at February 13, 2016 06:49 AM (2Ocf1)

547 There was a Mustang ll in Boston a couple years ago. I'd see it parked on street sometimes when walking to the train.

Posted by: fluffy at February 13, 2016 06:52 AM (AfsKp)

548 When young people look at socialism and find it appealing, they're thinking Sweden/Norway, and don't quite understand the costs.

Setting aside social, cultural, and other differences that make it easier to implement in Norway and Sweden, and using Sweden as an example:

1. Low defense spending

They spend ~1% of their GDP on defense. For us, that would mean cutting our defense spending by ~80% to ~$130 billion.

Effectively, that would mean the end of the Nuclear Navy, the end of anything except a small force of F-16 fighter jets for self defense and some strategic B-52s, and the reduction of the Army to 1800's levels.

2. 50% of GDP as government spending.

This would represent a ~62% increase in government spending for us from ~$4 trillion to $6.5 trillion.

The taxes that go along with this are horrific- to run the same 1% of GDP deficit as Sweden, tax receipts would need to increase to $6.3 trillion, which represents approximately a 100% increase.

So in short:

If you cut the military by 80%, and double taxes, you can have everything Bernie Sanders wants you to have.

Funny thing is one of the main things that makes it work is they have a comparatively low corporate tax rate- they get 6% of their revenue from corporate taxes vice 10-15% for the USA.

Instead, they have a massive VAT (essentially a complicated sales tax) that accounts for 21% of their revenue and a sales tax that accounts for 8%.

So all these socialists you see praising the 'Swedish model' should be right on board with slashing the corporate tax rate and putting a national sales tax in place, since that's what the Swedes do.

Posted by: Zack at February 13, 2016 10:51 AM (rEXZX)

549 "Instapundit writes that support for Sanders may not mean full throated support for Socialism, just a search for something different"

Different than what?

What's on offer now? What's on offer over the last few years? Decades? Centuries? Something different than capitalism? Cronyism? Affinity fraud? Banksters? Dictatorship? How is "Socialism" not "something different" than all those?

That's the problem with reading Instaputz: he doesn't think thru shit before he writes crap. He's like that famous Mad cartoon cycle of life of an Arby's fish sandwich: you eat it, you shit it out, a fish eat your shit, the fish gets caught & sold to Ariby's, and there you are again, lined up for more.

Posted by: Socratoomee at February 13, 2016 03:30 PM (lqeGC)

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