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Henry Farrer, "Evening Calm" (n.d.)

Posted by: rdbrewer at 09:59 AM




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1 Nice Swamp

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 10, 2016 09:59 AM (XtAzU)

2 Second!

Posted by: John Kasich at February 10, 2016 10:02 AM (LQLeS)

3 3st?

Posted by: Bitter Jamie Farr at February 10, 2016 10:03 AM (uAlSW)

4 President Trump.

Get used to it now, keep your head from exploding later.

If you forget how to say it, it will be easy to read in the big gold letters over the South Portico.

Posted by: blaster at February 10, 2016 10:03 AM (2Ocf1)

5 *airboat comes screaming around the bend. Yeeeehaaawwww!

Posted by: Mainah at February 10, 2016 10:04 AM (659DL)

6 From the side bar:

"Decisive Trump win sends GOP establishment reeling"

Not a Trump fan but there are some upsides to his presidential run.

Posted by: Max Power at February 10, 2016 10:04 AM (QCc6B)

7 looks like a herd of deer across the stream in the meadow

pity the house is in the distance

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 10:04 AM (y2NZ3)

8 There should be some squirrel nests in those trees.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 10, 2016 10:04 AM (t2KH5)

9 At this point, the trees succumbed to Hillary Blight.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 10, 2016 10:05 AM (659DL)

10 Is that the bloated corpse of Chris Christie's campaign floating in the distance?

Posted by: Dang at February 10, 2016 10:05 AM (2oWD2)

11 I spotted the Oldsmobile.

Posted by: Trying Too Hard at February 10, 2016 10:05 AM (haWHk)

12 put a 25% excise tax on remittances to Mexico to pay for the border

make it illegal to buy a Money Order without a Green Card

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 10:05 AM (y2NZ3)

13 President Trump. I can visualize a new Camelot.

Posted by: Oldbuffalo at February 10, 2016 10:06 AM (/pOl7)

14 There should be some squirrel nests in those trees.



Should be some fish breaking the water.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 10:06 AM (Y42RP)

15 So Jim Gilmore continues his steady climb up the ranks. He was 17th, what is he, eighth now?

Posted by: blaster at February 10, 2016 10:06 AM (2Ocf1)

16 Continuing the delegate discussion from the last thread super delegates are the party's method of assuring the get who they want and the voters get nothing.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 10, 2016 10:06 AM (t2KH5)

17 Should be some fish breaking the water.

Posted by: rickb223


Or a farmer breaking wind.

Posted by: Dang at February 10, 2016 10:07 AM (2oWD2)

18
Get used to it now, keep your head from exploding later.

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For all the fellow conservatives here that might go splodey.... think of all the wailing and gnashing of teeth and hysteric caterwauling that will go on among the left.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 10:07 AM (8XRCm)

19 So Jim Gilmore continues his steady climb up the ranks. He was 17th, what is he, eighth now?

With a bullet!

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 10, 2016 10:07 AM (LLsKs)

20 Continuing the delegate discussion from the last thread super delegates are the party's method of assuring the get who they want and the voters get nothing.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 10, 2016 10:06 AM (t2KH5)

Vic, do Republicans have super delegates, or just demoncrats?

Posted by: Bitter Jamie Farr at February 10, 2016 10:08 AM (uAlSW)

21 Zikapalooza!

Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2016 10:08 AM (x9c8r)

22 For all the fellow conservatives here that might go splodey.... think of all the wailing and gnashing of teeth and hysteric caterwauling that will go on among the left.

I fully expect some news organs (yeah, I just called them dicks) to ban the use of hte term "President Trump."

All that demand for respect of the office stuff will go out the window.

Posted by: blaster at February 10, 2016 10:08 AM (2Ocf1)

23 "hysteric caterwauling that will go on"

it has already gone on

huffpo had "WTF GOP RACIST XENOPHOBIC ETC" re: Trump's win in NH

if he gets the nom, they will throw everything possible at him

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 10:08 AM (y2NZ3)

24 For all the fellow conservatives here that might go splodey.... think of all the wailing and gnashing of teeth and hysteric caterwauling that will go on among the left.




Clinton campaign should be a veritable laugh riot this morning.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 10:08 AM (Y42RP)

25
They have swamps in North Dakota.

Who knew?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 10, 2016 10:09 AM (LUgeY)

26 Which supremes are the ones retiring?

Seems to me if one of the libs is gonna go, like Ginsberg, that it would happen now, so Obama can replace a lib with a lib.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 10, 2016 10:09 AM (U6f54)

27 Super Delegates are Prole Insurance.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 10, 2016 10:09 AM (LLsKs)

28 President Trump.

Get used to it now, keep your head from exploding later.




I should start my drinking now.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at February 10, 2016 10:09 AM (evdj2)

29 it looks like a class a trout stream with some nice brookies in there

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 10:09 AM (y2NZ3)

30 >>Continuing the delegate discussion from the last thread super delegates
are the party's method of assuring the get who they want and the voters
get nothing.


This is a Dem thing only, right?
Suck it, Dem voters! How does it feel to get someone you don't want because of voting shenanigans?

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2016 10:09 AM (NOIQH)

31 I keep reading headlines like this, and I begin to understand the Japanese citizens hearing about another great Imperial Army victory, driving out the Allied invaders.

Each "Victory" just a little closer to the main Islands.

http://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=255981

Posted by: REO Speedwagon at February 10, 2016 10:09 AM (ptqRm)

32 20 Vic, do Republicans have super delegates, or just demoncrats?

Posted by: Bitter Jamie Farr at February 10, 2016 10:08 AM (uAlSW)

Both parties have them but the Democrats have more.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 10, 2016 10:09 AM (t2KH5)

33 There is a '49 Studebaker at the bottom of that pond.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 10, 2016 10:10 AM (Qvgg/)

34 Clinton campaign should be a veritable laugh riot this morning.

Not so much cackling, I think.

Imagine falling under the Haggard Queen's glare, then hearing "OFF WITH HIS HEAD!"

Posted by: blaster at February 10, 2016 10:10 AM (2Ocf1)

35 That paining would look great over my fireplace. Wrap it up-- I'll take it.

Posted by: MTF at February 10, 2016 10:10 AM (TxJGV)

36 Vic, do Republicans have super delegates, or just demoncrats?

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Not Vic, but there's an equivalent, unassigned delegates or something like. Mostly local party bosses.

Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at February 10, 2016 10:10 AM (3ZtZW)

37 Be off me, you rock band sock

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 10, 2016 10:11 AM (ptqRm)

38 ah, what a nice serene picture. Although its true I wouldn't buy a house there because IRL I look at lovely ponds and such and only think "skeeter country"

Posted by: PaleRider at February 10, 2016 10:11 AM (chkUd)

39 I should start my drinking now.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at February 10, 2016 10:09 AM (evdj2)


That's good thinking regardless.

Posted by: blaster at February 10, 2016 10:11 AM (2Ocf1)

40 Republicans have Super Delegates, but much fewer than the post-McGovern Democrats.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at February 10, 2016 10:11 AM (evdj2)

41 26 Seems to me if one of the libs is gonna go, like Ginsberg, that it would happen now, so Obama can replace a lib with a lib.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 10, 2016 10:09 AM (U6f54)

Ginsberg has openly stated she has no intention of retiring. She will die in office.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 10, 2016 10:11 AM (t2KH5)

42 >>if he gets the nom, they will throw everything possible at him


Which is what they do to *every* GOP candidate, even the ones they fawned over during the primaries (see: McCain, John). No choice we make will prevent the onslaught of MSM attack dogs.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2016 10:11 AM (NOIQH)

43 .... think of all the wailing and gnashing of teeth and hysteric caterwauling that will go on among the left.

====

NOT MY PRESIDENT! NOT IN MY NAME! *kaboom*

Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at February 10, 2016 10:11 AM (3ZtZW)

44
Seems to me if one of the libs is gonna go, like Ginsberg, that it would happen now, so Obama can replace a lib with a lib.


If only we had an opposition party in the Senate.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 10, 2016 10:11 AM (LLsKs)

45 I should start my drinking now.

"Continue." The correct word is "continue."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 10, 2016 10:12 AM (659DL)

46 There is a '49 Studebaker at the bottom of that pond.



With Tony "Two Times" Nunzio and Vinnie Funchelli in it.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 10:12 AM (Y42RP)

47 Is Mook fired yet? Lets start a pool.

Posted by: MTF at February 10, 2016 10:12 AM (TxJGV)

48 staffer: madame comrade secretary, it appears they don't like you, they really really don't like you

HRC: IMPOSSIBLE, I knew you were a Koch Brothers plant! Huma, call security

staffer: but the numbers show...

HRC: ENOUGH, and you can forget about ever working on any campaign ever, again, you make me sick

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 10:12 AM (y2NZ3)

49 With Jeb underperforming, I fully expect to hear that Wilmore Huntsman will also be considering his options over the next few days.

Posted by: TexasDan at February 10, 2016 10:12 AM (TqXWc)

50 ooh gotta get going soon so's I can hear Beck sobbing on the car radio

Lookin forwards to it

Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at February 10, 2016 10:13 AM (3ZtZW)

51 That title is the exact opposite of the emotions in various party headquarters, lobbying firms, and campaign situation rooms.

Now warning lights are flashing down at Party HQ
Somebody threw a spanner, they threw him in the hole
There's rumors in the loading bay and anger in the town
Somebody blew the whistle and the walls came down

There's a meeting in the boardroom, they're trying to trace the smell
There's a leakin' in the washroom, there's a sneakin' personnel
Somewhere in the corridors someone was heard to sneeze
Goodness me, could this be establishment disease ?'



Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Ashes, Sackcloth, Woe and Despair! Election and Lenten Specials at the Outrage Outlet! at February 10, 2016 10:13 AM (hLRSq)

52 Ginsberg has openly stated she has no intention of retiring. She will die in office.




How will we know?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 10:13 AM (Y42RP)

53 Ginsberg has openly stated she has no intention of retiring. She will die in office.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 10, 2016 10:11 AM (t2KH5)

not like she has anything else to do.

Posted by: BignJames at February 10, 2016 10:13 AM (x9c8r)

54 Which is what they do to *every* GOP candidate, even the ones they fawned over during the primaries (see: McCain, John). No choice we make will prevent the onslaught of MSM attack dogs.


The difference this time is that Trump will fight back. That alone is worthy of support.

I'ma liking this whole President Camacho thingy.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 10, 2016 10:13 AM (LUgeY)

55 It gives me some comfort to know that Hillary is miserable this morning, and the MSM is pathetically scrambling to preserve her candidacy. But a Socialist leading one of the major Parties is so backward, I can't celebrate Bernie's win. Come on, South Carolina, keep the chaos coming.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 10, 2016 10:13 AM (2cS/G)

56 Evita-bility!

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 10, 2016 10:14 AM (LLsKs)

57 So the idiots wanting free college from Bernie are probably in college now. Do they think it will instantly become available? Or that it will be retroactive and they'll have their loans paid off? Even if Bernie wins and then delivers, they would probably not get in on any free college.

And the kids who aren't in college yet can't vote for Bernie because they're too young.

This might need to soak a little longer for it to sink into their thick skulls.

Posted by: Dang at February 10, 2016 10:14 AM (2oWD2)

58 Trump - Guillotine 2016

It Just Feels So Right

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Ashes, Sackcloth, Woe and Despair! Election and Lenten Specials at the Outrage Outlet! at February 10, 2016 10:14 AM (hLRSq)

59 With Tony "Two Times" Nunzio and Vinnie Funchelli in it.

And no cannoli.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 10, 2016 10:15 AM (659DL)

60 "Evening Calm (Before the Trump Wars Reignite)"

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at February 10, 2016 10:15 AM (VAsIq)

61 But a Socialist leading one of the major Parties is so backward.

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Point of order if I may.

One of the major parties has been led by socialists for decades now.

Bernie is just honest enough to admit it.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 10:15 AM (8XRCm)

62 26 Which supremes are the ones retiring?

Seems to me if one of the libs is gonna go, like Ginsberg, that it would happen now, so Obama can replace a lib with a lib.

^^^
Nah, once Rehnquist set the egomania precedent of dying in his robes?

Only the truly wise will step down before death now.

Lawyers are too narcissistic to consider the long march through the institutions.

Posted by: Oschisms at February 10, 2016 10:15 AM (ZsN9X)

63 Thanks, RD. Another lovely, relaxing painting to enjoy. And yeah, I'm looking at my fly rods and thinking of spring. SIGH!

Posted by: JTB at February 10, 2016 10:15 AM (FvdPb)

64 So...

Say Gloria Steinem were to declare Bill Clinton to be an honorary woman, as she apparently declared The Bern to be back in 1996. Just imagine the Herstory! and stuff, you guys: a race between our first same-sex power couple (one a semi-biological robot, the other very butchy and half-dead) and an honorary woman and bondage fantasist! Herstoric!!!11!!!

Posted by: Stu-22 at February 10, 2016 10:15 AM (rUc9h)

65 Thanks Vic and Bigby's!

Do the super delegate votes count for more each than a regular delegate? Sorry for the ignance!

Posted by: Bitter Jamie Farr at February 10, 2016 10:15 AM (uAlSW)

66 So, there's been a whopping 47 delegates awarded.

Out of 2,472.

Trump: 18
Cruz: 10
Rubiot: 9
Kasich: 4
Bush: 3
Carson: 3

In ten days, the winner of SC will take all 47 delegates.

3 days later, NV splits up it's 27 delegates.

And 7 days after that, it's Super Tuesday.

On the one hand, why drop out now when there is nearly 700 delegates up for grabs in 20 days?

On the other hand, who can/has attracted enough money to have a team and advertising in:
AL, AK, AR, CO, GA, MA, MN, ND, OK, TN, TX, VT, VA and WY?

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 10, 2016 10:16 AM (fQ/0p)

67 If you forget how to say it, it will be easy to read in the big gold letters over the South Portico.Posted by: blaster at February 10, 2016 10:03 AM (2Ocf1)
________

Ongoing fight in Chicago over the last Trump project. Size of the type advertising the building. Architecture in Chicago is a blood sport.


Anyway, beautiful picture, but I like the brighter colors personally.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 10, 2016 10:16 AM (MIKMs)

68 Since she got schlonged in NH, I bet Hillary sets her dialect-o-tron to DEEP SOUTH in S.C.

Bernie can't compete. But man vs. machine is not really a fair fight anyway.

Posted by: TexasDan at February 10, 2016 10:16 AM (TqXWc)

69 Nah, once Rehnquist set the egomania precedent of dying in his robes?

Only the truly wise will step down before death now.


Tolkien noted the darkness fell on Numenor in similar circumstances.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 10, 2016 10:17 AM (659DL)

70 G*dspeed

'Former ISIS Yazidi Sex Slaves Take Up Arms For Revenge, To Help Win Back Mosul'

-WZ


More balls than the male 'refugees'

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 10:18 AM (YqcVw)

71 65 Do the super delegate votes count for more each than a regular delegate? Sorry for the ignance!

Posted by: Bitter Jamie Farr at February 10, 2016 10:15 AM (uAlSW)

They count the same. The real name of these delegates is uncommitted delegate. Some newsy coined the term super delegate.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 10, 2016 10:18 AM (t2KH5)

72 Krugman (Enron advisor) is on Twitter predicting Trump will get the GOP nom

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 10:18 AM (y2NZ3)

73 It's interesting to note that in the New Hampshire primary there were 268,000+ votes for Republicans and 235,000 for Democrats. This is significant - it means that Republicans got 53% of the vote in a northeastern state.

Trump's goal was 100K votes - he got 95K (pretty close) - he exceeded the expectations that could be gleaned from the polling results. Is his ground-game improving? I think so.

The results of the primary yesterday are a game-changer.

Posted by: Stay out da bushes at February 10, 2016 10:18 AM (rZJS9)

74 66 In ten days, the winner of SC will take all 47 delegates.

3 days later, NV splits up it's 27 delegates.

And 7 days after that, it's Super Tuesday.

On the one hand, why drop out now when there is nearly 700 delegates up for grabs in 20 days?

On the other hand, who can/has attracted enough money to have a team and advertising in:
AL, AK, AR, CO, GA, MA, MN, ND, OK, TN, TX, VT, VA and WY?


Posted by: RoyalOil at February 10, 2016 10:16 AM (fQ/0p)

SC has split delegates as well.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 10, 2016 10:19 AM (t2KH5)

75 Is there a system to launder money through a campaign? Because that would explain why JEB is still running.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 10, 2016 10:19 AM (XtAzU)

76 willowed:

So precisely how does one, meaning a Democratic candidate, acquire these "super delegates"?

Bribery? Threats? Extortion?

Clearly, they're completely unrelated to the actual vote totals. So there must be some other way.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 10:19 AM (maOV6)

77 There is a '49 Studebaker at the bottom of that pond.

With "Life's A Gamble" playing on the radio.
Interstate Battery.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 10, 2016 10:19 AM (xq1UY)

78 Krugman (Enron advisor) is on Twitter predicting Trump will get the GOP nom

So long, Trump.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 10, 2016 10:20 AM (LLsKs)

79 In ten days, the winner of SC will take all 47 delegates.


Trump is going to win those, which will double his total and put him way out ahead of the field.

He will get a plurality at least in NV. Further out front.

He polls in the Super Tuesday states about where he did in NH.


Posted by: blaster at February 10, 2016 10:20 AM (2Ocf1)

80 President Trump. I can visualize a new Camelot.


*walks out on stage*

*orchestra starts up*

*sings*


A law was made right after the election

To paint the White House in the brightest gold

And make the Stars and Stripes from sparkling glitter

Or so we're told


A YUUUUGE wall was build upon the southern border

And Cabinet Members all were smoking' hawt

Illegals all went home to Spank the Burro

In TRUMPS-A-LOT


TRUMPS-A-LOT!!!!
TRUMPS-A-LOT!!!!
I know it gives the GOPers pause
But in-
TRUMPS-A-LOT!!!!
TRUMPS-A-LOT!!!!
Those are the legal laws


Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2016 10:20 AM (KUa85)

81 Really like this. I recently went to a show where I saw a number of Farrer's works; very calming. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2016 10:21 AM (w4NZ8)

82 anybody know who has the best orgnaization in South Carolina?

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 10:21 AM (zOTsN)

83 So precisely how does one, meaning a Democratic candidate, acquire these "super delegates"?



Is Kryptonite involved?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 10, 2016 10:21 AM (LUgeY)

84 *golf clap*

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 10:21 AM (y2NZ3)

85 76 So precisely how does one, meaning a Democratic candidate, acquire these "super delegates"?

Bribery? Threats? Extortion?

Clearly, they're completely unrelated to the actual vote totals. So there must be some other way.


Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 10:19 AM (maOV6)

The candidates all woo them. Obama got most of them in 2008 which is why Scankles lost.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 10, 2016 10:22 AM (t2KH5)

86 82 anybody know who has the best orgnaization in South Carolina?

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 10:21 AM (zOTsN)


Arby's Pizza, I think.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 10:22 AM (maOV6)

87 anybody know who has the best orgnaization in South Carolina?

Nick Saban.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 10, 2016 10:23 AM (659DL)

88 Do'h! Abbey's. Should be Abbey's Pizza.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 10:23 AM (maOV6)

89 Let us not go to Trumpsalot.

It is a silly place.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 10, 2016 10:23 AM (LLsKs)

90 Renewed-

A reflection on discouragement and recovering from it

from The Brooklyn Tabernacle:

http://www.brooklyntabernacle.org/devotional

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2016 10:23 AM (w4NZ8)

91 #87 your joke was a lot funnier than mine.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 10:24 AM (maOV6)

92 predicting Trump will get the GOP nom


Moot point.


Posted by: October 2016 Executive Ordered Amnesty at February 10, 2016 10:24 AM (EsBJe)

93 87 anybody know who has the best orgnaization in South Carolina?

Nick Saban.


I think you mean Dabo Swinney

Posted by: blaster at February 10, 2016 10:24 AM (2Ocf1)

94 82
anybody know who has the best orgnaization in South Carolina?

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 10:21 AM (zOTsN)

Trump is way ahead in the polls. So unless the Party pulls a fast one he should get the most delegates.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 10, 2016 10:24 AM (t2KH5)

95 20
Continuing the delegate discussion from the last thread super delegates
are the party's method of assuring the get who they want and the voters
get nothing.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 10, 2016 10:06 AM (t2KH5)



Vic, do Republicans have super delegates, or just demoncrats?
=========
Sort of.

There are 3 "unpledged delegates" per state. The state chairmen and 2 RNC committee members. 207 total.

Compared to 712 in the Democrat Party.


Posted by: RoyalOil at February 10, 2016 10:24 AM (fQ/0p)

96 *image searched Arby's Pizza

**hungry as hell now.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 10:24 AM (/CXhS)

97 Are commenters more prolific lately or am I reading more slowly? Or what? Almost impossible to keep up.

Harking back to a (sub?)thread in the last thread...

Decades ago, Milady and I were four-wheeling through the woods high above Pecos, New Mexico. Suddenly, a wild turkey flew across right in front of our windshield.

First thought was, wow, that looks just like in the ads.

Second thought was, yeah, I could see trying to bring that down for dinner if I up here hungry.

But domesticated can't fly well, if at all, and it's just sad beyond measure to think that anyone ever saw the WKRP episode and thought they were throwing frozen turkeys!

Posted by: mindful webworker - as God is my witness, I thought Jeb could fly at February 10, 2016 10:24 AM (K/p7v)

98 Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2016 10:20 AM (KUa85)

Bravo!

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Ashes, Sackcloth, Woe and Despair! Election and Lenten Specials at the Outrage Outlet! at February 10, 2016 10:24 AM (hLRSq)

99 I think you mean Dabo Swinney

Objection: Posits position in direct conflict with the empirical record.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 10, 2016 10:25 AM (659DL)

100 To be fair, I'd feel the same about a Bernie win. I'd be all "Not my president" like the Left was during Bush's terms. I will never accept a Communist as president of the United States.

22
For all the fellow conservatives here that might go splodey.... think
of all the wailing and gnashing of teeth and hysteric caterwauling that
will go on among the left.



I fully expect some news organs (yeah, I just called them dicks) to ban the use of hte term "President Trump."



All that demand for respect of the office stuff will go out the window.

Posted by: blaster at February 10, 2016 10:08 AM (2Ocf1)

Posted by: Pyrocles at February 10, 2016 10:26 AM (MYMcU)

101 It's interesting to note that in the New Hampshire primary there were 268,000+ votes for Republicans and 235,000 for Democrats. This is significant - it means that Republicans got 53% of the vote in a northeastern state.

NH actually used to be a solidly Republican state until pretty recently when a bunch of people from MA moved in. I wish it were, but it's not a bellweather for the rest of the Northeast.

Posted by: AD at February 10, 2016 10:26 AM (w7gCr)

102 "Trump is way ahead in the polls. So unless the Party pulls a fast one he should get the most delegates."

This is South Carolina - everybody is trying to pull fast ones.

Sacred Honor demands nothing less.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Ashes, Sackcloth, Woe and Despair! Election and Lenten Specials at the Outrage Outlet! at February 10, 2016 10:26 AM (hLRSq)

103 And for those who are not too far, the Princeton University Art Museum is having a great show now, "Pastures Green and dark Satanic Mills" with a lot of works from a museum in Wales featuring Welsh landscapes, and a lot of landscapes of Turner:


In a few weeks they will have a show featuring the cultural contributions of Jews from the founding of America until the Civil War which also looks quite interesting, for anyone that's in commuting distance and enjoys art:

http://artmuseum.princeton.edu

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2016 10:28 AM (w4NZ8)

104 I fully expect some news organs (yeah, I just called them dicks) to ban the use of hte term "President Trump."


But "Office of President-Elect Trump" is OK?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 10, 2016 10:28 AM (LUgeY)

105 So, that's 712 out of 4763 total. 14.9%

And 207 out of 2472 for the Rs. 8.4%

None of it matters unless it's a close race.

Don't get too far in conspiracy land over unpledged or "super" delegates.

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 10, 2016 10:29 AM (fQ/0p)

106
None of it matters unless it's a close race.


Or its heavily split.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 10, 2016 10:30 AM (LLsKs)

107 meanwhile, the govt. projects the debt rising to $27 trillion demanding service 0f $750 billion a year by 2026.

getting near a trillion $ in interest.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 10, 2016 10:30 AM (WTSFk)

108 I think it may have something to do with matching funds, and they may get to keep any leftover funds.

Also, sometimes it's just fun to travel around a 'treat yo self' to fine dining, posh hotels for a spell before getting back to the real world.
Just sayin'

Posted by: Al Sharpton at February 10, 2016 10:31 AM (NOIQH)

109 President Trump.

Get used to it now, keep your head from exploding later.

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You know what that means. Slots and showgirls in the Oval Office.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 10:32 AM (Nwg0u)

110 Sununu must be furious

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 10:32 AM (zOTsN)

111 I'd like to be a fly on Rinse Prius' office wall this morning to hear the lamentations. I'm certain that staff removed all sharp objects yesterday.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 10, 2016 10:33 AM (LUgeY)

112 So Kasich is happy that he lived in New Hampshire for the last 6 months (probably the friendliest possible state for him demographically), spent more than $200 per vote vs. Cruz's purported $18 per vote and ended up with only 16% of the vote? Okay. Kasich-mentum?

Posted by: Naes at February 10, 2016 10:33 AM (Ypc8j)

113 Rubio and sanders seem to have a strong presence on my kid's campus in SC, but the school is also supposedly having an outbreak of the syph too so maybe it's just insanity setting in.

Posted by: NCKate at February 10, 2016 10:33 AM (KPhjz)

114 *airboat comes screaming around the bend. Yeeeehaaawwww!

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Reminds me of my favorite show as a kid, Gentle Ben Carson.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 10:34 AM (Nwg0u)

115 107 meanwhile, the govt. projects the debt rising to $27 trillion demanding service 0f $750 billion a year by 2026.
getting near a trillion $ in interest.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 10, 2016 10:30 AM (WTSFk)


Isn't it weird how nobody cares about "the deficit" anymore? It's like the $19 trillion debt simply doesn't exist.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 10:34 AM (maOV6)

116

it seems certain that while Cruz is doing well among republicans, Trump is doing better with cross oversa and new voters, people who feel disenfranchised. The long dormant silent majority

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 10:34 AM (zOTsN)

117 meanwhile, the govt. projects the debt rising to $27 trillion demanding service 0f $750 billion a year by 2026.

getting near a trillion $ in interest.



What is the magic $ amount that triggers a world war?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 10:35 AM (Y42RP)

118 Let us not go to Trumpsalot.

It is a silly place.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 10, 2016 10:23 AM (LLsKs)



*silly music starts*

*sings*


We're voters for The Donald
Lots of models he has fondled
We hates elites and smells our feets
And votes mostly impeccable

We have good jobs in Trumpsalot
We eats steaks and shakes and drinks a lot

Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2016 10:36 AM (KUa85)

119 Via Insty, saw that remittances to Mexico are topping $25 billion a year--more than their oil industry brings in.

Then you see there was the other story that a full border wall would cost $8 billion.

And suddenly, a 25% remittance tax pays for the entire wall. In one year.

When Trump says he's going to have Mexico pay for a wall, there you go.
Isn't it time we quit underestimating that guy?

PS: I'm still all in for Cruz.


Posted by: RoyalOil at February 10, 2016 10:36 AM (fQ/0p)

120 GOPe can't latch on the Kasich. He does not have broad appeal beyond NH and OH

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 10:36 AM (zOTsN)

121 Krispy Kreme to formally suspend his campaign

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 10:36 AM (/CXhS)

122 Isn't it weird how nobody cares about "the deficit" anymore? It's like the $19 trillion debt simply doesn't exist.
Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 10:34 AM (maOV6)

Soon we will be Greece.

Posted by: Mainah at February 10, 2016 10:36 AM (659DL)

123
*cracks window a little wider open*

Posted by: Joseph Overton at February 10, 2016 10:37 AM (fbovC)

124

who is GOPe going to look for to rescue them? Do they come negotiating with Trump? Surrender to Cruz? Push everyone else out but Rubio?

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 10:37 AM (zOTsN)

125 Seems to me if one of the libs is gonna go, like Ginsberg, that it would happen now, so Obama can replace a lib with a lib.

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Mitch "Stonewall" McConell will stop that.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 10:38 AM (Nwg0u)

126 I suspect this is when the GOPe machine tries to disqualify Trump and Cruz from primaries

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 10:38 AM (zOTsN)

127 ... with the democrats advancing vast additional expenditures, it strikes me that the republicans have a powerful argument to cut govt.

but not a word so far.

it should prove to be one of the great issues of the election.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 10, 2016 10:38 AM (WTSFk)

128 Krispy Kreme to formally suspend his campaign
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 10:36 AM (/CXhS)

----

So much for romantic walks along the beach....

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 10:38 AM (8XRCm)

129 it seems certain that while Cruz is doing well among republicans, Trump
is doing better with cross oversa and new voters, people who feel
disenfranchised. The long dormant silent majority


Pulling for the Trump/Cruz ticket has always been about pragmatism, never preference.

Posted by: Mortimer at February 10, 2016 10:39 AM (EsBJe)

130
Oh my, BenK's Trump tears this morning.

Delicious.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2016 10:39 AM (kdS6q)

131 If only the professional GOPe had learned how to create the message that the political novice and supposedly idiot Trump just stumbled upon by complete accident.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 10, 2016 10:39 AM (Wckf4)

132
For all the fellow conservatives here that might go splodey.... think of all the wailing and gnashing of teeth and hysteric caterwauling that will go on among the left.

I fully expect some news organs (yeah, I just called them dicks) to ban the use of hte term "President Trump."

All that demand for respect of the office stuff will go out the window.

Posted by: blaster at February 10, 2016 10:08 AM (2Ocf1)







Wouldn't be the first time. The MFM consistently called Dubya "Mr. Bush" to his face for the first 8 months of his administration. As I recall, it pretty much stopped on Sep 12, 2001.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 10, 2016 10:40 AM (smLWk)

133 Nice painting. Looked like the sky this morning.

Think its going to rain.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 10, 2016 10:40 AM (q2o38)

134 Isn't it weird how nobody cares about "the deficit" anymore? It's like the $19 trillion debt simply doesn't exist.


It's a well-established fact that politicians can't count, so naturally no one is bothered.

DC is filled with legions of Alfred E. Neumans.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 10, 2016 10:40 AM (LUgeY)

135 So much for romantic walks along the beach....

Which he could probably still do with his wife when the weather gets nicer. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2016 10:40 AM (w4NZ8)

136 President Trump. I can visualize a new Camelot.

Posted by: Oldbuffalo at February 10, 2016 10:06 AM
......President Clinton. I can visualize a new Cameltoe.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 10, 2016 10:40 AM (mv76s)

137 I keep reading headlines like this, and I begin to understand the Japanese citizens hearing about another great Imperial Army victory, driving out the Allied invaders.

Each "Victory" just a little closer to the main Islands.

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JV team defeats T-Ball team. Again.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 10:41 AM (Nwg0u)

138 Hurry! Deals like this won't last:

https://tinyurl.com/jmdud6e

Strong demand for Eurozone bonds at -.50% yield.

History (if we are lucky enough to survive this) will look back on this period as the age of fucking unbelievable insanity.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at February 10, 2016 10:41 AM (4ng05)

139 Make Christie the attorney general and sic him on Hillary and Huma

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 10:41 AM (zOTsN)

140 "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."

Posted by: Quote du jour at February 10, 2016 10:42 AM (fbovC)

141 put Cruz on the Supreme Court, I want him there eventually no matter what

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 10:42 AM (zOTsN)

142 President Trump. I can visualize a new Camelot.

So, it will never rain till after sundown? ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2016 10:42 AM (w4NZ8)

143
Isn't it weird how nobody cares about "the deficit" anymore? It's like the $19 trillion debt simply doesn't exist.








Just wait until January with a Republican President. Then it'll be "all deficit, all the time".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 10, 2016 10:42 AM (smLWk)

144 Oh my, BenK's Trump tears this morning. Delicious. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2016 10:39 AM

Imagine how Poppin' Fresh feels today.

For one brief, shining moment, he thought his testicles were finally going to descend....

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 10, 2016 10:43 AM (GRl5a)

145 130
it seems certain that while Cruz is doing well among republicans, Trump

is doing better with cross oversa and new voters, people who feel

disenfranchised. The long dormant silent majority

Pulling for the Trump/Cruz ticket has always been about pragmatism, never preference.
=========
And because the leftists will be pissing all over themselves, blindly--and loudly--running in a circle 'cause they'll have no idea who to hate more.

2008, they could focus on Palin
2012, Romney was the easy target

With that?

Fuck, I'm already seeing leftists seriously losing their shit about how Cruz would destroy the republic and impose a theocracy.
Imagine them trying to keep the hate flowing against two targets at the same time?

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 10, 2016 10:43 AM (fQ/0p)

146 it seems certain that while Cruz is doing well among republicans, Trump is doing better with cross oversa and new voters, people who feel disenfranchised. The long dormant silent majority
Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 10:34 AM (zOTsN)

I think Trump does well among some blue collar workers who Dems have taken for granted for years because of control by the Unions, while at the same time killing various industries through laws and regulations and importing foreign workers to replace them. But the media won't accept the idea that some traditionally voting Dems could like Trump, only those bitter clingers on the other side.

Posted by: Mainah at February 10, 2016 10:44 AM (659DL)

147 Ginsberg has openly stated she has no intention of retiring. She will die in office.

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And take the court down with her.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 10:44 AM (Nwg0u)

148 Fuck, I'm already seeing leftists seriously losing their shit about how Cruz would destroy the republic and impose a theocracy.

Imagine them trying to keep the hate flowing against two targets at the same time?



Encourage them.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 10:45 AM (Y42RP)

149 Banhammer does not seem to appreciate all caps shouty person. Heh


Also, remember that deficit and debt are different problems. Obama has been touting the decrease in the deficit for years - but has fallen silent as it starts to inch back up. Even with record federal tax receipts.

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at February 10, 2016 10:45 AM (dQJCS)

150 so in the SEC primaries the long forgotten Dixiecrats are up for grabs.

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 10:45 AM (zOTsN)

151 ***"Isn't it weird how nobody cares about "the deficit" anymore?"***


To the extent that they do, all I usually hear (even from the occasional regular here), is that the deficit is down! It's been slashed!!


Nevermind the fact that that means it's down from record highs to our previously unsustainable level. But it also shifts the overton window to acceptance of huge deficits as totes cool.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 10, 2016 10:46 AM (Wckf4)

152 It's not calm it's frozen. Not solid enough to walk on yet.

Posted by: DaveA at February 10, 2016 10:46 AM (DL2i+)

153 I think Trump does well among some blue collar workers who Dems have taken for granted for years because of control by the Unions, while at the same time killing various industries through laws and regulations



Coal.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 10:46 AM (Y42RP)

154 What if Trump pulls a lot of cross over black votes in South Carolina, thus handing the Democratic win in that state the Sanders?

And how many of the rest of the Dems will be thinking they are voting for Col. Sanders of KFC?

Posted by: George Costanza at February 10, 2016 10:46 AM (LXJ1e)

155 The minute a person with an (R) after his name takes office we will be hearing about a lot of things:

-The Middle East is IN FLAMES!

-The deficit is $19 Trillion Dollars!!

-Unemployment is 10%!!!

-Vets are dying at the VA!!!!

-There is no recovery, we are in a depression!!!!!

And it will be all the new guy's fault.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 10, 2016 10:46 AM (iHjB5)

156 make it illegal to buy a Money Order without a Green Card
Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 10:05 AM (y2NZ3)


Look, if you can put an excise tax on international calls, you can do the same for international money transfers. Even if you mail a money order to "country x" the bank there will do an electronic transfer of funds.

Easier. Elegant. Classy, even.

On the other hand if you want revenge, and you get it, what will satisfy you next?


Posted by: Kindltot at February 10, 2016 10:47 AM (q2o38)

157 > 25

They have swamps in North Dakota.
Who knew?

We once had a visitor from Florida that remarked that driving thru ND reminded him of Louisiana, all the swamps.

Here they are called sloughs.

Posted by: cind at February 10, 2016 10:47 AM (nRbbW)

158 yup. Coal. Blue collar workers.

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 10:47 AM (zOTsN)

159 It's not calm it's frozen. Not solid enough to walk on yet.



The tits?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 10:47 AM (Y42RP)

160 cruz, as a small govt. conservative has a natural argument to cut govt.

trump will say he's personally been been billions in debt and got out of it, so he's better equipped.

i prefer the former. the latter demonstrates the problem.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 10, 2016 10:47 AM (WTSFk)

161 And it will be all the new guy's fault.
----------------

That's a feature, not a problem. Let's give it another whirl.

Posted by: Roy at February 10, 2016 10:47 AM (VndSC)

162 The brits are doomed. This is the latest headline:

Refugee crisis: Thousands of child asylum seekers deported back to war zones, Home Office admits

http://goo.gl/Xj7DFZ

with photos of cute little kids.

Unaccompanied kids that show up are allowed to stay until turn 18 and then shipped back.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 10, 2016 10:48 AM (iQIUe)

163 History (if we are lucky enough to survive this) will look back on this period as the age of fucking unbelievable insanity.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at February 10, 2016 10:41 AM (4g05)



No fucking kidding.

Sometimes when you're reading history,

you just roll your eyes and think, "How could they be so-o-o-o--o-o fucking stupid?"


Fucking stupid?

You're soaking in it.


I guess the elites get locked into a complete fantasy mode of thought and-

keep doubling down on the stupid until irretrievable disaster strikes.


And this point only Cruz or Trump seem willing to break the Feedback Loop of Idiocy(TM)-

i hope one or both are able to do it.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2016 10:48 AM (KUa85)

164 The artist really captured that time of day. Beautiful work.

Posted by: An Observation at February 10, 2016 10:48 AM (Tv7z4)

165 ND "swamps" are forested wetlands that are breeding grounds for migratory birds

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 10:48 AM (zOTsN)

166 Coal.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 10:46 AM (Y42RP)

Yep, that's a big one right there. Especially after that video of Obama talking about how electricity will just have to be more expensive because he's going after coal.

Posted by: Mainah at February 10, 2016 10:48 AM (659DL)

167 >>I think Trump does well among some blue collar workers who Dems have taken for granted for years because of control by the Unions, while at the same time killing various industries through laws and regulations and importing foreign workers to replace them. But the media won't accept the idea that some traditionally voting Dems could like Trump, only those bitter clingers on the other side.

We've been hearing for years that the Republican Party is getting more extreme. I saw an exit poll of Democrats from last night and the question is do you want the next candidate to:

a) Stay the Obama course 40%
b) Go more liberal 45%
c) Go more conservative 15%

The Democrats are moving further and further to the left whether anyone actually reports on it and they are going to lose a lot of blue collar, historical Democrats. Trump would seem to be in a great place to grab a lot of them.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2016 10:48 AM (/tuJf)

168 On the other hand if you want revenge, and you get it, what will satisfy you next?




Heads on pikes.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 10:49 AM (Y42RP)

169
Philip Klein - Why Ted Cruz is now the Republican frontrunner

www.washingtonexaminer.com



Third is the new first!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2016 10:49 AM (kdS6q)

170 Just wait until January with a Republican President. Then it'll be "all deficit, all the time".
=====
And the sudden homeless crisis. Along with the sudden appearance of the following crisis:
Rising unemployment
McJobs
Wall Street getting richer
Uninsured
Hungry children
Exploding debt
Lost manufacturing jobs
Teen pregnancies
STDs
Housing costs
Food costs
Heating oil costs




Posted by: RoyalOil at February 10, 2016 10:49 AM (fQ/0p)

171 The painting is one of those 3D illusions.

You have to squint and look "past" the surface

to see Waldo.

Posted by: mindful webworker - art schmart at February 10, 2016 10:49 AM (K/p7v)

172 Democrats sorry Independents love Kasich. They are fixed to vote for someone who can't control their gestures or the volume of their voice.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2016 10:49 AM (VdICR)

173
Nevermind the fact that that means it's down from record highs to our previously unsustainable level. But it also shifts the overton window to acceptance of huge deficits as totes cool.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 10, 2016 10:46 AM (Wckf4)

---------------------

Not to mention the fact that near zero interest rates have kept the deficit about $500 billion less than it should be if the rates were in any kind of normal range.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 10, 2016 10:49 AM (LXJ1e)

174 12 put a 25% excise tax on remittances to Mexico to pay for the border

make it illegal to buy a Money Order without a Green Card
-------------------
If the money order is issued in the US and cashed in Mehiko, isn't it a remittance? It should be treated as one, and taxed as you suggested.

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at February 10, 2016 10:49 AM (kXzR8)

175 Nick Saban is Dabo's daddy

Posted by: CSMBigBird at February 10, 2016 10:51 AM (jsWA8)

176 Somebody threw a spanner, they threw him in the hole exhaust port. "Use the Force, Trump! Use the Force!"

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 10:51 AM (Nwg0u)

177 Yep, that's a big one right there. Especially after that video of Obama talking about how electricity will just have to be more expensive because he's going after coal.
Posted by: Mainah at February 10, 2016 10:48 AM (659DL)

----

I kinda lose my shit with the libtards in my life when they claim Obama is responsible for the low gas prices.

Shitweasels.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 10:51 AM (8XRCm)

178 As a predictor of election success, I look at each candidate and objectively envision their natural constituencies. It usually is a very good predictor of outcomes. Nothing very profound about the process - the trick is being "objective".

Posted by: kraken at February 10, 2016 10:52 AM (sdxPm)

179 There seem to be a lot of these pictures that are landscapes with the label "n.d."



It seems that North Dakota is a state with very varied topography.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at February 10, 2016 10:53 AM (QHgTq)

180 progressivism is a virus

see: fertility rates and voting patterns: http://bit.ly/1V3NBWG

NYT on this: http://thecut.io/1msy2fi

progressives don't reproduce in sufficient numbers -- they survive by moving from host to host

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 10:53 AM (y2NZ3)

181
RedState - The Trump Ground Game Is A huuuuge loser
By: Dan Spencer February 9th

Trump seems destined to underperform again in New Hampshire.



First is the new last!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2016 10:54 AM (kdS6q)

182 cruz, as a small govt. conservative has a natural argument to cut govt.

trump will say he's personally been been billions in debt and got out of it, so he's better equipped.

i prefer the former. the latter demonstrates the problem.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 10, 2016 10:47 AM (WTSFk)

-------------------------

When your $19 Trillion in debt maybe you need someone with experience in how to get out of it.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 10, 2016 10:54 AM (LXJ1e)

183 I hear Dems around me saying that Kasich is acceptable

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 10:54 AM (y2NZ3)

184 This is an amazing election, as Matthew Continetti says:

What's fascinating about Trump and Sanders is that their ideological profiles are similar. Both candidates believe the American experiment is terribly out of whack and requires fundamental change if it is to be rescued. They both are happy to attack Wall Street, corporations, trade deals, and the supposedly corrupting influence of money in politics. They both support single-payer health care. They are evidence that a large contingent of New Hampshire primary voters believe something is seriously out of whack in America. And that is a repudiation not only of the Republican "establishment" but also of the Obama administration in which Hillary Clinton served.

http://bit.ly/1O2Xo9O

Posted by: MTF at February 10, 2016 10:54 AM (TxJGV)

185 I think Trump does well among some blue collar workers who Dems have taken for granted for years because of control by the Unions, while at the same time killing various industries through laws and regulations and importing foreign workers to replace them. But the media won't accept the idea that some traditionally voting Dems could like Trump, only those bitter clingers on the other side.
Posted by: Mainah at February 10, 2016 10:44 AM (659DL)

I live in an area with a lot of blue collar traditional Dems, farmers, etc. Almost all of them are comfortable with Trump. The few that wanted to vote Hillary? All are in their 80s, LOL.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 10, 2016 10:54 AM (K0Iz7)

186 Back off - the soul (that which remains) of Nick Saban is pledged to me!

Posted by: Barbed Cock of Satan at February 10, 2016 10:54 AM (dQJCS)

187 It seems that North Dakota is a state with very varied topography.>>>

Replace "varied" with "Void of" and you have properly described ND.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 10, 2016 10:54 AM (XtAzU)

188

I guess n.d. in this context means "no date", as in the artwork is undated

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 10:55 AM (zOTsN)

189 Do'h! Abbey's. Should be Abbey's Pizza.
Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 10:23 AM (maOV6)


Abby's Legendary Pizza? In NC? Carpetbaggers!

Posted by: Kindltot at February 10, 2016 10:55 AM (q2o38)

190 progressives don't reproduce in sufficient numbers -- they survive by moving from host to host
Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 10:53 AM (y2NZ3)

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That's why they've taken over the education system. The only way they can survive is to convert other people's children to their cause.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 10, 2016 10:55 AM (LXJ1e)

191
Rubio Superfan #1 chiming in:

Dan McLaughlin baseballcrank

Rubio's still following the Clinton '92 path to victory... I stuck with Jindal, Perry, AND Rudy to the bitter end. Not bailing on Rubio after one night.






Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2016 10:56 AM (kdS6q)

192 Isn't it weird how nobody cares about "the deficit" anymore? It's like the $19 trillion debt simply doesn't exist.


Go back and look at Obama's economic advisers at the beginning of his reign-

they were all bragging about how they could spend forever and would actually encourage inflation-

because inflation meant you could pay back all of those debts with dollars that were worth less

So.....win/win.

Yes, they were exactly that stupid.


Krugman was a big fan of a variation on this.


All this part part of the "Obama as anti-Reagan" strategy-

the incredible debt and crappy economy means that it will be very hard to do what Reagan did (2 hard years of discipline then a booming economy).

Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2016 10:56 AM (KUa85)

193 177
This. Absofrickinglutly this. This guy has done everything in his power to have the opposite effect and then proposes a $10 per barrel Tax when gas prices fall.

People are literally living in a fantasy land.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 10, 2016 10:56 AM (iHjB5)

194 the artist was born in London but lived in NY. He is buried in London

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 10:57 AM (zOTsN)

195 Someone refresh my memory.

Is XzRw1 MUMR or TVoC?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Dump Trump! Luze with Cruz! at February 10, 2016 10:57 AM (WVsWD)

196 "That's why they've taken over the education system. The only way they can survive is to convert other people's children to their cause."

and that is why it is critical for Constitutionalists (or whatever you want to call them), and especially young Constitutionalist MEN, to get INTO the education system and fight the virus where it lives

there is no other way

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 10:57 AM (y2NZ3)

197 "The Democrats are moving further and further to the
left whether anyone actually reports on it and they are going to lose a
lot of blue collar, historical Democrats. Trump would seem to be in a
great place to grab a lot of them.





Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2016 10:48 AM (/tuJf)"

Good thing for Democrats then that both Democrat and Republican establishments seem committed to the policy of getting rid of all the blue collar jobs so that there will be no more blue collar Democrats.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at February 10, 2016 10:57 AM (QHgTq)

198 15k for that painting.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 10:57 AM (/CXhS)

199 I kinda lose my shit with the libtards in my life when they claim Obama is responsible for the low gas prices.

I don't even...

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 10, 2016 10:58 AM (659DL)

200 57 So the idiots wanting free college from Bernie are probably in college now. Do they think it will instantly become available? Or that it will be retroactive and they'll have their loans paid off? Even if Bernie wins and then delivers, they would probably not get in on any free college.
___________________________

No, they wouldn't, but they'd get to see their taxes raised (assuming these idiots could even find a job after college) in order to pay for the "free" college for the people coming behind them. LOL. It would almost be worth it just to see these dumbasses gnashing their teeth and wailing about the "unfairness" of it all.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 10, 2016 10:58 AM (df5V4)

201 for the most part ND is flat as a pancake

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 10:58 AM (zOTsN)

202 North Dakota is the only state where you can watch your dog run away from home,,,,,for a week.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 10, 2016 10:58 AM (mv76s)

203 Go ahead Jeb, that ice looks solid enough to walk on, go on.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 10, 2016 10:59 AM (mv76s)

204 " it will be very hard to do what Reagan did"

maybe

what if Trump gets in and says this 19T tax burden on the young is killing job creation in this country, so let's start cutting the fat out of this bloated company called "the federal government" and give a lot of its functions back to the states

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 10:59 AM (y2NZ3)

205 Just wait until January with a Republican President. Then it'll be "all deficit, all the time".


President Camacho Trump should have a busty blonde assistant at the ready with a device full of things the MFM ignored during TFP's Reign of Error.

Things like the day the debt surpassed all other presidents combined. You know, the little stuff they always seem to gloss over when a Dim occupies the WH.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 10, 2016 10:59 AM (LUgeY)

206
"That's why they've taken over the education system. The only way they can survive is to convert other people's children to their cause."








Which is why homeschooling makes the commie cocksuckers Lose. Their. Shit.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 10, 2016 11:00 AM (smLWk)

207
The Hill - Sanders becomes first Jewish candidate to win a state's primary

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwCDxtq9XKM

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2016 11:00 AM (kdS6q)

208 so the guy who runs the Gallup polling organization was on Bloomberg this morning

he says america is turning more left, that more people call themselves liberal than ever before


Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 11:00 AM (zOTsN)

209 North Dakota Where the men are men the women are scarce and the sheep are scared.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 10, 2016 11:01 AM (XtAzU)

210
#196:

TVoC

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 10, 2016 11:01 AM (RcpcZ)

211 all Pres. Trump has to do when the MFM cranks up its attack is point the finger back at them and say "what are YOU doing to help the poor, seems to me you're the hypocrites"

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 11:01 AM (y2NZ3)

212 anybody know who has the best orgnaization in South Carolina?

-
Starbucks. Nobody beats their ground game.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 11:01 AM (Nwg0u)

213 Yet another stark indicator of the disconnect between what the central government wants and what 'the people' want:

https://tinyurl.com/zw3s6m8

We continue to delude ourselves that the "constitutional republic" still exists.

I remember from the movie The Gladiator where the hot chick says something to the effect that the republic of Rome was an idea. Well the republic of America is kind of like that now, though not so much an idea as a memory.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at February 10, 2016 11:01 AM (4ng05)

214 193 177
This. Absofrickinglutly this. This guy has done everything in his power to have the opposite effect and then proposes a $10 per barrel Tax when gas prices fall.

People are literally living in a fantasy land.



Which is why I want it to burn. These people are too stupid to survive.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 11:01 AM (Y42RP)

215 The Hill - Sanders becomes first Jewish candidate to win a state's primary

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwCDxtq9XKM
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix


he is so nominally Jewish, so barely Jewish, so totally secular

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 11:01 AM (zOTsN)

216
Go ahead Jeb, that ice looks solid enough to walk on, go on.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 10, 2016 10:59 AM (mv76s)







*snort*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 10, 2016 11:01 AM (smLWk)

217 Mainstream Democrats are comfortable with Trump because he too is a old-time mainstream Democrat, except maybe on immigration. He has a powerful political ability too, that no candidate on either side can compete with effectively.

Posted by: MTF at February 10, 2016 11:01 AM (TxJGV)

218 homeschooling is great

I see a lot of successful home-schooled kids in college

big thumbs up

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 11:02 AM (y2NZ3)

219
So would you use a snag proof frog against the far bank or a crankbait off that little point?

Posted by: irongrampa at February 10, 2016 11:02 AM (P/8aq)

220 Obligatory:

what will satisfy you next?









Heads on pikes.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47DfQcHMYLY


Posted by: DaveA at February 10, 2016 11:02 AM (DL2i+)

221 >>The Hill - Sanders becomes first Jewish candidate to win a state's primary


I don't read the Hill - did they do a similar article about Cruz being the first Latino to win a primary in Iowa?

Posted by: Al Sharpton at February 10, 2016 11:03 AM (NOIQH)

222
I skipped the NH stuff mostly, but a couple of things obviously jumped out:

NH is a weird f'ing state.
Giving it such early primary causes leftism.
Trump won as expected, but crushed in all demographics.
Cruz really had no chance there (nor anybody not named Trump).
Kasich? WTF? Really, NH? There sure are a lot of liberal repubs in that party. I guess the new face of the Estabs.

And ha ha ha hillary, who has really lost the first 2 primaries to an actual self identifying socialist.

Finally, the first exit poll for the aoshq decision desk was pretty good. As good or better than any other outlet.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 10, 2016 11:03 AM (ODxAs)

223 there are no sheep in ND, or not many. Bison or cattle. Cant imagine a man creeping up on a step stool to violate a Bison. In the bitter cold.

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 11:03 AM (zOTsN)

224 @210

That's what I thought. You got to admire his sticktuitiveness.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Dump Trump! Luze with Cruz! at February 10, 2016 11:03 AM (WVsWD)

225 So would you use a snag proof frog against the far bank or a crankbait off that little point?
Posted by: irongrampa at February 10, 2016 11:02 AM (P/8aq)


M-80 in a weighted bottle and a net. Less side-kill than Rotenone.

I hate fishing.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 10, 2016 11:04 AM (q2o38)

226 167 >>I think Trump does well among some blue collar workers who Dems have taken for granted for years because of control by the Unions, while at the same time killing various industries through laws and regulations and importing foreign workers to replace them. But the media won't accept the idea that some traditionally voting Dems could like Trump, only those bitter clingers on the other side.

We've been hearing for years that the Republican Party is getting more extreme. I saw an exit poll of Democrats from last night and the question is do you want the next candidate to:

a) Stay the Obama course 40%
b) Go more liberal 45%
c) Go more conservative 15%

The Democrats are moving further and further to the left whether anyone actually reports on it and they are going to lose a lot of blue collar, historical Democrats. Trump would seem to be in a great place to grab a lot of them.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2016 10:48 AM (/tuJf)

Has the MSM ever, even once, reported on the leftward shift of the Democratic Party? I'm confident is somewhere between no, and hell no and are you f'n kidding me.
They are absolutely incapable of find a shift to the left, just like they're incapable of finding a left wing extremist.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 10, 2016 11:04 AM (hJrjt)

227 Hillary Clinton is just one muscular speech away from being back in it.

Or one concession speech away from jail.

Posted by: ugg boots at February 10, 2016 11:04 AM (fbovC)

228 I BLAME THE MEDIA FOR MY PROFOUND FAILURES

----

I blame chromosomal damage.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 11:05 AM (8XRCm)

229 15 >> So Jim Gilmore continues his steady climb up the ranks. He was 17th, what is he, eighth now?

True, but he will need to win over the Vermin Supreme voters if he is go much higher. With about 80% of votes counted --

Jim Gilmore -- 110

Vermin Supreme -- 225

(actually, if he stays in and Carson, Carly and TFG Hugger drop out, he can move into 6th place)

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 10, 2016 11:05 AM (gyKtp)

230 The masks continue to fall.




Posted by: eman at February 10, 2016 11:05 AM (MQEz6)

231 So would you use a snag proof frog against the far bank or a crankbait off that little point?




Yes

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 11:06 AM (Y42RP)

232 what if Trump gets in and says this 19T tax burden on the young is killing job creation in this country, so let's start cutting the fat out of this bloated company called "the federal government" and give a lot of its functions back to the states

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 10:59 AM (y2NZ3)



Well.....that really is the only play left.

Go hard on the 10th amendment.

Close down as much of the Fed as possible and return those functions to the states.

Cut spending to the bone and let people keep more of their money.


The trick is- will the weasels in Congress go along once the MSM go into full "OMG he's killing the children!" mode?

So, that literally needs to be a first day item.

Then after two years the benefits of said policy will start to show.

I have my doubts that will happen.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2016 11:06 AM (KUa85)

233 remember Hillary not being able on TV to distinguish between a socialist and a democrat?

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 11:06 AM (y2NZ3)

234 if more people than ever before are identifying as liberal or democrat then the cross over vote is very important

not to make republicans more like them which is a mistake. Sort of like what Reagan said. "I didnt leave the party, the party left me."

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 11:06 AM (zOTsN)

235 Hillary Clinton is just one muscular speech away from being back in it.

Or one concession speech away from jail.

Posted by: ugg boots at February 10, 2016 11:04 AM (fbovC)


Or one "Ahhhh ain't no waaaays tahrrrred" speech away from a half-time show at the Super Bowl.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 11:07 AM (zc3Db)

236 "The trick is- will the weasels in Congress go along once the MSM go into full "OMG he's killing the children!" mode?"

well, if he wins, the MSM will have been proven incapable of harming a politician who goes for this kind of policy

so the weasel class in House and Senate should feel safe enough to go along

Trump is doing a lot of good in this country alread

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 11:08 AM (y2NZ3)

237 remember Hillary not being able on TV to distinguish between a socialist and a democrat?

We do.

Whether or not she does is questionable.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 10, 2016 11:08 AM (LUgeY)

238 *crash*

*smash*

*sound of breaking glass*

*sound of thrown coffee mug impacting human flesh*

*incoherent cursing and speaking in tongues*

Posted by: At Hillary! 2016 Campaign Headquarters at February 10, 2016 11:08 AM (/f6Nd)

239
Heads on pikes.
Posted by: DaveA at February 10, 2016 11:02 AM (DL2i+)


Remember Robespierre

Posted by: Kindltot at February 10, 2016 11:08 AM (q2o38)

240 there is no difference now

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 11:09 AM (zOTsN)

241 Or one "Ahhhh ain't no waaaays tahrrrred" speech away from a half-time show at the Super Bowl.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 11:07 AM (zc3Db)


In a Beyonce Black Panther costume. Its not like Beyonce's that much fatter than her.

Posted by: Iblis at February 10, 2016 11:09 AM (q/+v2)

242 I don't get the Beyonce fascination, but then, I like fishing

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 11:10 AM (y2NZ3)

243
RedState - The Biggest Winner from New Hampshire Was Hillary Clinton
By: Leon "Snapping Turtle" Wolf

This is not one of those stupid, contrarian takes where Im saying something just for shock value just to get clicks. Make no mistakes, Hillary Clinton may have lost by about 20 points last night, but she emerged from New Hampshire as the biggest winner of the night, and it was not close.




Yes it is, you Salem tramp.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2016 11:10 AM (kdS6q)

244 now its all NH doesnt pick presidents, NH picks losers


like Bill Clinton

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 11:11 AM (zOTsN)

245
*looks out window*
*checks thermometer. 15 deg.*
That river is frozen. It has to be, unless it is full of Republican lead.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2016 11:11 AM (oFSUK)

246 So now Christie is out and Kasich/Bush will be out after South Carolina and Nevada. That leaves Trump, Cruz and Rubio-io. The next debate will be fun to watch.

Posted by: MTF at February 10, 2016 11:11 AM (TxJGV)

247 Homeschooling is great I see a lot of successful home-schooled kids in college big thumbs upPosted by: Feh


I have a 12 year old grandson taking college classes at an actual college. Homeschooled? Of course. The class -- actually a couple day seminar -- was exclusively for home schooled youngsters. The professor was amazed.

The class was on some version of JavaScript I had never heard of, but I checked the course outline and it seemed very muscular.

Posted by: ugg boots at February 10, 2016 11:11 AM (fbovC)

248 The Beyonce and Obama demographics directly correlate.

Posted by: kraken at February 10, 2016 11:11 AM (sdxPm)

249 Wapner comes on at 5.

Wapner comes on at 5.

Wapner comes on at 5.

Wapner comes on at 5.

Posted by: Marco Rubio at February 10, 2016 11:12 AM (gyKtp)

250 Android app won't load! Anyone understand this?

Posted by: dfbaskwill at February 10, 2016 11:12 AM (zllbf)

251 A 2 inch original, floating Rapala on a 5 1/2 foot, light action rod and 6lb test Trilene XL.
Two cranks, twitch. Three cranks, twitch.

Posted by: teej at February 10, 2016 11:12 AM (9KR27)

252 >>I don't get the Beyonce fascination

You're not alone - others didn't like the Beyonce Black Panthers salute at the Super Bowl.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/02/09/beyonce-super-bowl-controversy/

Posted by: Al Sharpton at February 10, 2016 11:13 AM (NOIQH)

253 Android is frozen in solidrity with their latest model, the Rubio

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 11:13 AM (zOTsN)

254 remember Hillary not being able on TV to distinguish between a socialist and a democrat?
------------

Had I been a 'moderator' at one of the Dem 'debates', I would have asked, "Sen. Sanders, what is the difference between your plans for America, and Hugo Chavez's plans for Venezuela?"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2016 11:13 AM (oFSUK)

255 BTW, if no one mentioned it, Fox says Christie formally is suspending his campaign this morning.

Posted by: MTF at February 10, 2016 11:14 AM (TxJGV)

256 Had to look up Vermin Supreme.

Alrighty then

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 11:14 AM (/CXhS)

257 FBI: Now can we cuff her?

Posted by: eman at February 10, 2016 11:14 AM (MQEz6)

258 Make Christie the attorney general and sic him on Hillary and Huma

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He'll hug them to death.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 11:14 AM (Nwg0u)

259 Rapala

we catch a lot of steelhead with pieces of shrimp

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 11:14 AM (y2NZ3)

260 see Mike we need you in the media

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 11:15 AM (y2NZ3)

261 In a Beyonce Black Panther costume. Its not like Beyonce's that much fatter than her.

Posted by: Iblis at February 10, 2016 11:09 AM (q/+v2)


Beyonce's only saving grace is that she has a pretty face. But that butt and those thighs are yuuuuuge!

Shrillary can do the show with a paper bag over her head as "The Unknown Convict".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 11:15 AM (zc3Db)

262 Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 10:55 AM (zOTsN)

I think the ones who said it was North Dakota were just trying to provide a little comic relief.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2016 11:16 AM (w4NZ8)

263 Does anyone know how much Kasich spent for his "win"?

Posted by: Iblis at February 10, 2016 11:16 AM (q/+v2)

264 ThunderB: ...Cant imagine a man creeping up on a step stool to violate a Bison. In the bitter cold.

Never underestimate the drive of the motivated pervert.

Posted by: chicken, vacuum, couch, mailbox, toaster at February 10, 2016 11:16 AM (K/p7v)

265 BTW, if no one mentioned it, Fox says Christie formally is suspending his campaign this morning.
Posted by: MTF
---------------

It's a TRICK. They're trying to shift votes to Carson!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2016 11:16 AM (oFSUK)

266 Christie's leaving the race will have a big impact............On the food workers in campaign states.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 10, 2016 11:18 AM (mv76s)

267 *crash*

*smash*

*sound of breaking glass*

*sound of thrown coffee mug impacting human flesh*

*incoherent cursing and speaking in tongues*
Posted by: At Hillary! 2016 Campaign Headquarters

Quick! Send Bill out to sacrifice a virgin!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 11:18 AM (Nwg0u)

268 26 Which supremes are the ones retiring?

Seems to me if one of the libs is gonna go, like Ginsberg, that it would happen now, so Obama can replace a lib with a lib.


No way the Republican Senate would vote to confirm a hard core liberal to the Supreme Cou.....HAHAHAHAHAHA! I couldn't even finish typing that...Mitch would bend right over and take it.

Posted by: Timon at February 10, 2016 11:19 AM (KSonr)

269 So when do Carly, Ben and Happy Gilmore announce?

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 10, 2016 11:19 AM (mv76s)

270 Two cranks, twitch. Three cranks, twitch


Now is that a fishing technique or what you observed at the last democrat debate?

Posted by: ugg boots at February 10, 2016 11:19 AM (fbovC)

271
Zeke Miller

Rand Paul campaign manager joins Marco Rubio team as adviser

http://on.wsj.com/1msqwBd



Excelsior!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2016 11:20 AM (kdS6q)

272 How does Trump not win the nomination at this point?

I can get behind Trump and will likely vote for him in the Primary, but my biggest fear is that he'll be stingy with spending his own money.

If he's not willing to throw a few hundred million of his own money, he won't be able to beat Hillary.

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 11:20 AM (2ENYh)

273 Quick! Send Bill out to sacrifice deflower a virgin!
Posted by: The Great White Snark
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Edited

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2016 11:20 AM (oFSUK)

274 Bring me my comfort huma. Stat!

Posted by: Hillary! at February 10, 2016 11:22 AM (gyKtp)

275 RWC: Had to look up Vermin Supreme.
Alrighty then


Oh! I had just been assuming it was a nickname for one of the candidates that I wasn't getting, like Cankles, or TFG hugger, or Mulchman.

Posted by: mindful webworker - McEvil/FenelonSpoke 2016 at February 10, 2016 11:23 AM (K/p7v)

276 There are surprising parallels between the Clinton campaign and the movie Spinal Tap. Don't be surprised if Hillary's new campaign slogan is Sniff the Glove.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at February 10, 2016 11:24 AM (4KoRb)

277 In the heartland Feh so I've never done the steelhead thing.
Dream trip is to head north for a walleye and yellow perch freezer filler.
Gotta do some research to find the experience I'm lookin' for.
Cabin, nice lake full of fish and not many folks around.

Posted by: teej at February 10, 2016 11:25 AM (9KR27)

278 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermin_Supreme

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 10, 2016 11:26 AM (gyKtp)

279 If he's not willing to throw a few hundred million of his own money, he won't be able to beat Hillary.
Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 11:20 AM (2ENYh)

------------

I think he learned a big lesson in Iowa. According to the media reports last night, I think he spent quite a bit of money in New Hampshire.

Whether he learned a lesson in Iowa or not, it's hard to believe a billionaire is clueless. But, you never know.

Posted by: Stay out da bushes at February 10, 2016 11:26 AM (rZJS9)

280 People were commenting on Drudge's Hillary picture, but what I found amusing was this link in the upper left corner:

"Beast: She May Never Recover ..."

I'm pretty sure, but not positive, that it's a link to the Daily Beast.

Posted by: mrp at February 10, 2016 11:26 AM (JBggj)

281 If he's not willing to throw a few hundred million of his own money, he won't be able to beat Hillary.
Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 11:20 AM (2ENYh)


You mean Bernie. Her own party won't vote for her. The only federal housing she's getting is a single cell.

Posted by: Iblis at February 10, 2016 11:26 AM (q/+v2)

282 Looks like a good place to get a mess a crawdads. Catfish too.

Posted by: Hank at February 10, 2016 11:26 AM (IFEDx)

283 Oh! I had just been assuming it was a nickname for one of the candidates that I wasn't getting, like Cankles, or TFG hugger, or Mulchman.

Posted by: mindful webworker - McEvil/FenelonSpoke 2016 at February 10, 2016 11:23 AM (K/p7v)

LOL. First thought as well. But couldn't think of who it could be.


"Vermin Love Supreme is an American performance artist and activist who has run as a candidate in various local, state, and national elections in the United States. Supreme is known for wearing a boot as a hat and carrying a large toothbrush."

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 11:26 AM (/CXhS)

284 If Christie is off of the stage, they can fit at least two of the undercards in his place.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 10, 2016 11:27 AM (Qvgg/)

285 Gator got yer granny.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 10, 2016 11:27 AM (FkBIv)

286 Get your free Hillary! magnet.


http://tinyurl.com/hxnpohb


Seriously?! Look at the size of it.... and it's of her mug.

*not parody

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 11:29 AM (/CXhS)

287 "Vermin Love Supreme is an American performance artist and activist who has run as a candidate in various local, state, and national elections in the United States. Supreme is known for wearing a boot as a hat and carrying a large toothbrush."
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA


Whenever I see the term "performance artist" I instantly think "untalented hack."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 10, 2016 11:29 AM (FkBIv)

288 " President Trump.
Get used to it now, keep your head from exploding later."
------------

You mean "President Hillary Clinton."

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 10, 2016 11:29 AM (T/5A0)

289 In the heartland Feh so I've never done the steelhead thing.

Dream trip is to head north for a walleye and yellow perch freezer filler.
===============

Yeah, buddy. Walleye fillet dredged in a light beer batter then gently sauteed to fishy perfection.

Posted by: mrp at February 10, 2016 11:29 AM (JBggj)

290 "I should have killed you when I had the chance!" supercut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vsed-yU8kA

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2016 11:30 AM (NOIQH)

291 "Smell" the Glove.

Posted by: David St. Hubbins at February 10, 2016 11:30 AM (bpn7O)

292

wow, an anomaly

Maine required healthy, childless food stamp recipients to work, and... You'll never guess what happened...

http://bit.ly/1SIu4xB

...an 80% drop in 90 days.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 10, 2016 11:31 AM (qCMvj)

293
You mean "President Hillary Clinton."



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 10, 2016 11:29 AM (T/5A0)

President of the Cell Block Number 9 Dance committee?

Posted by: Don Quixote, who was in the Cold War at February 10, 2016 11:31 AM (f7rv6)

294 How does Trump not win the nomination at this point?

------------

By not winning a majority of the delegates.

Posted by: SH at February 10, 2016 11:31 AM (gmeXX)

295 I think he learned a big lesson in Iowa. According to the media reports last night, I think he spent quite a bit of money in New Hampshire.

Whether he learned a lesson in Iowa or not, it's hard to believe a billionaire is clueless. But, you never know.
Posted by: Stay out da bushes


I hope you're right.

I know self-funders often talk big, but always seem to pull back. It's much easier to spend other people's money, especially considering you can't keep campaign donations anyway.

The thing about Trump is, I don't believe he's nearly as wealthy as he likes to tell people. I personally don't think he's a multi-billionaire. So can he really throw say $300 million of his own money into this? I know people like Bloomberg could do that without batting an eye.

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 11:31 AM (2ENYh)

296 If Christie is off of the stage, they can fit at least two of the undercards in his place.


Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 10, 2016 11:27 AM
.......Whew!

Posted by: The Stage at February 10, 2016 11:32 AM (mv76s)

297 In a sad way it's funny to see the level of importance given to the NH primary now in contrast to how it was lambasted in the past as being way above its pay grade and not indicative of the rest of the country. Opinions change , consistency today seems to be a vice.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 10, 2016 11:32 AM (AEEhl)

298 It looks like Christie is gonna back Trump... I guess i can see that.... One thing is strange, the press is all over Rubio saying He's done, why isn't jeb! done? And no I don't prefer Rubio... Actually, as I've said before I don't really like any of the Candidates...

Posted by: donna at February 10, 2016 11:32 AM (/dSsq)

299 Christie screwed up beyond belief, not running in 2012 when he had the buzz. Instead he chose to hug TFG and now he's out of a job (or soon will be).

Posted by: MTF at February 10, 2016 11:33 AM (TxJGV)

300
Had enough of politics for a bit.

Still a steadfast Cruz fan, but would be perfectly comfortable pulling the lever for Trump.

Not at all like swallowing my gorge and voting Romney or McCain.

So now it's time to inventory and ready the fishing gear.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 10, 2016 11:33 AM (P/8aq)

301 *looks at the hideous Hillary-face car magnet*
*makes note to self to pop a sharpie into my purse so that I can deface it accordingly should I see one while running errands*

Horns or Hitler mustache?

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2016 11:33 AM (NOIQH)

302 Vermin Supreme: On The Issues

http://tinyurl.com/hecjvqu


Energy Policy:


America's FUTURE DEPENDS on it's ABILITY to HARNESS it's BIGGEST environMENTAL challenge.

America's TRANSITION , from fossil fuels to PONYTOPIA , requires forward thinking INNOVATION.

VISUALISE... a vision of SECURE , modern , UNDERGROUND FACILITIES , dotting the countryside , HUMMING along, producing safe , CLEAN ,
efficient , CARBON NEUTRAL energy.

We will harness the AWESOME power of ZOMBIES , by UTILIZING the latest GIANT , HAMSTER-wheel , turbine TECHNOLOGY.
This will ASSURE America's energy FUTURE .

The TECHNOLOGY is INFALLIBLE .
There has NEVER been an accidental ZOMBIE release , in a FEMA licensed Zombie Turbine Facility.
----


TAKE MY VOTE!!!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 11:33 AM (/CXhS)

303 287 "Vermin Love Supreme is an American performance artist and activist who has run as a candidate in various local, state, and national elections in the United States. Supreme is known for wearing a boot as a hat and carrying a large toothbrush."
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA

Whenever I see the term "performance artist" I instantly think "untalented hack."


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 10, 2016 11:29 AM (FkBIv)


Wow.... and here I thought the Vermin Supreme was Vallerie Jarret...

Posted by: Don Quixote, who was in the Cold War at February 10, 2016 11:34 AM (f7rv6)

304 How does Trump not win the nomination at this point?

------------

By not winning a majority of the delegates.
Posted by: SH

_______________


Still, if he goes into the Convention with 3 times the total Republican votes as anyone else, he's going to be at the top of the ticket unless the GOP really does want to just destroy itself.

You really think someone like Jeb goes in there with 8% of the primary support gets to be the nominee?

Even the Establishment knows it would be better to just take that punch in the face than everyone lose their little fiefdom.

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 11:34 AM (2ENYh)

305 I give Christie credit for dropping out though.

Carson, Gilmore, Bush, Fiorina and Kasich should do likewise and then lets have some real debates.

Posted by: MTF at February 10, 2016 11:34 AM (TxJGV)

306 History (if we are lucky enough to survive this) will look back on this period as the age of fucking unbelievable insanity.

-
When I was learning history in high school, I though that if I could go back in time and just tell them, "Look, this is stupid," a lot of misery could have been avoided. I didn't realize just how much the Zeitgeist loves stupid. Now I know.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 11:35 AM (Nwg0u)

307 So are we still going with the line that New Hampshire was a victory over the establishment? After Bob Dole, Trent Lott and other establishment fossils never endorsed Trump over Cruz, we're just gonna act like that never happened? Yeah! F-you establishment!

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at February 10, 2016 11:35 AM (MxONJ)

308 I've got the momentum, baby!

Posted by: Jim Gilmore at February 10, 2016 11:35 AM (FkBIv)

309 Another thing that bugs me is the "media" saying Bernie can't win the nomination? Really? If Trump can win why can't Bern? I mean no body seems to like Hillary!

Posted by: donna at February 10, 2016 11:36 AM (/dSsq)

310 Michelle Malkin kicked David Brooks where his balls never were.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at February 10, 2016 11:36 AM (xWW96)

311 Vermin Supreme? Is that a new menu item at Taco Bell?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 10, 2016 11:36 AM (kpqmD)

312 Still, if he goes into the Convention with 3 times the total Republican votes as anyone else, he's going to be at the top of the ticket unless the GOP really does want to just destroy itself.

-
Have you been paying attention these last eight years?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 11:37 AM (Nwg0u)

313 Michelle Malkin kicked David Brooks where his balls never were.
Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at February 10, 2016 11:36 AM (xWW96)


I was just about to read that.

(sidebar) for those that haven't seen it

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 10, 2016 11:37 AM (qCMvj)

314 The switch to a Pony Based Economy (PBE) will revolutionize the way America does business.
Ponies create American jobs.
Ponies will revitalize America.
Ponies are a green transportation solution.
Ponies produce usable methane gas.
Ponies lower our dependance on foreign oil.
Ponies create an abundant source of pony based fertilizer.
Ponies are the future of America.
Ponies are a viable currency for goods and services.
Ponies have little tiny carbon hoof prints.
Ponies are a renewable resource.
Ponies are nice.
Ponies are recyclable.
Ponies are cute.
Ponies are delicious.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 11:37 AM (/CXhS)

315 Though I am sad Deez Nutz dropped out.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 10, 2016 11:37 AM (kpqmD)

316
Even the Establishment knows it would be better to just take that punch in the face than everyone lose their little fiefdom.
Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 11:34 AM (2ENYh)

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There very reason why the Establishment has already been talking about how they can work with the Donald.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 10, 2016 11:37 AM (LXJ1e)

317 Vermin Supreme? Is that a new menu item at Taco Bell?



Entree of the day.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 11:37 AM (Y42RP)

318 They re passing out wakizashis at National Review, along with an instruction manual on the proper way to commit seppuku.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 10, 2016 11:38 AM (gyKtp)

319 Still, if he goes into the Convention with 3 times the total Republican votes as anyone else, he's going to be at the top of the ticket unless the GOP really does want to just destroy itself.

You really think someone like Jeb goes in there with 8% of the primary support gets to be the nominee?

Even the Establishment knows it would be better to just take that punch in the face than everyone lose their little fiefdom.

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To make is simple, let's say he goes in with 40% of the delegates, Cruz has 30% and GOPe has 30%. Why don't Cruz and GOPe just unify? Obviously, Trump could unify with either too. There are probably other factors at play too. But its not that simple that Trump should win with only a plurality.

He may get a majority, I'd bet against it, but not much. Trump may benefit from the winner take all states later in which he has an advantage over Cruz.

Posted by: SH at February 10, 2016 11:38 AM (gmeXX)

320 305 I give Christie credit for dropping out though.

Carson, Gilmore, Bush, Fiorina and Kasich should do likewise and then lets have some real debates.
Posted by: MTF at February 10, 2016 11:34 AM (TxJGV)

Carson painted himself into a corner. He can't drop out just yet or he would have to admit the CNN report was right.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 10, 2016 11:38 AM (AEEhl)

321 A performance artist I can get behind:

http://www.mrmethane.com/

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 10, 2016 11:38 AM (bpn7O)

322 It looks like Christie is gonna back Trump... I guess i can see that.... One thing is strange, the press is all over Rubio saying He's done, why isn't jeb! done? And no I don't prefer Rubio... Actually, as I've said before I don't really like any of the Candidates...

Posted by: donna at February 10, 2016 11:32 AM
..Agreed. Jeb should be one of the candidates "going home to decide on continuing". Jeb is an egotistical dick with allot of money he got from stupid people. He'll stick around like a cold sore. Because, Jeb.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 10, 2016 11:38 AM (mv76s)

323 Make no mistake, if it's Trump vs. Hillary, I will vote Trump and with great enthusiasm.

But why in the world some people here think he is a 10th amendment kind of guy befuddles me. The notion that he would get in there and start abolishing agencies, etc., strikes me as absurd fantasy.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 10, 2016 11:39 AM (T/5A0)

324 They re passing out wakizashis at National Review, along with an instruction manual on the proper way to commit seppuku.



Wrists - Down the street. Not across the tracks.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 11:39 AM (Y42RP)

325
Horns or Hitler mustache?


"Or?"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 10, 2016 11:39 AM (LUgeY)

326 Your credentials and references seem to be in order. You understand the job description. Now - other duties.

*drops trou*

Two openings. Poop comes out one, your tongue goes in both. Clear? Good.

Posted by: Huma's 1996 Job Interview at February 10, 2016 11:39 AM (6sWDC)

327 It is a FREE pony? program.
It costs NOTHING.
(There may be some inciDENTAL administrative costs involving such entitlements as the Universal Pony Health Care System, Social Pony Security , and the Federal Hay Stamp Program.)
Americans are chomping at the bit, to HAPPILY SURRENDER financial autonomy.
So 'pony up', these GREATLY increased FREEDOM , LIBERTY , and 'LOVE AMERICA ' Assesments.
These increases in your FREEDOM are required to giddyup the ABSOLUTELY FREE FEDERAL PONY IDENTIFICATION PROGRAM (AFPIP).
By taxing the 1% at 1% , and taxing the 99% at 99%, we create a MORE FAIR and EQUITABLE America.
----

Ahhhh to be insane

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 11:40 AM (/CXhS)

328 Looking forward to the spin when Trump embraces the 'establishment' . I see some of it has started already.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 10, 2016 11:41 AM (AEEhl)

329 Michelle Malkin kicked David Brooks where his balls never were.
Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at February 10, 2016 11:36 AM (xWW96)


put some hot sauce on that

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 10, 2016 11:41 AM (qCMvj)

330 And he still beat Gilmore

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 11:41 AM (/CXhS)

331 Speaking of old fossils, Joe Klein had a meltdown last night on Charlie Rose. TRUUUUMMMPPPP.. And Trump voters. "Low information voters" "Ignorant" and on and on. Neanderthals in the streets and the voting booths. Well, he didn't actually say "Neanderthals in the voting booths", but he would have if he were 30 years younger and had all of his marbles.

Posted by: mrp at February 10, 2016 11:41 AM (JBggj)

332 I can imagine that, in the NRO and RNC offices, there are a lot of people right now channeling Diamond Joe Quimby when they consider the people who voted for Teh Donald - "Who are you to demand anything? You're all a bunch of low-income nobodies!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 10, 2016 11:42 AM (X6fMO)

333 Meanwhile, SCOTUS yanked the reins on the War on Coal:

http://tinyurl.com/gq9u7xt

Pen and phone? At this point I suspect it would be meaningless. I wonder how enthusiastic Sanders is about crippling what's left of American industry...

Posted by: Monkey f***ing a football at February 10, 2016 11:42 AM (9krrF)

334 I'm just irritated at all my friends who are mad at Christie kamikazing Rubio because they think it will result in Trump.

There's another option, guys. You could always support him. But oh he's too "mean".

Posted by: Lauren at February 10, 2016 11:42 AM (3DIzJ)

335 Have you been paying attention these last eight years?
Posted by: The Great White Snark


Still, even they know it's a bridge too far if Trump comes in to the Convention and it's not even close and they try and take it away.


I'm not saying they don't WANT to do it, I'm saying even they will know that will be viewed as illegitimate enough to where the GOP is disbanded by supporters.

Now if it's neck and neck all the way to the Convention, all bets are off, but right now Trump is walking away with this

If any other candidate was leading by this margin after coming in the #1 and #2 slots for he first 2 contests, they would be crowned the nominee by pundits and say it's all over, but for Trump they keep talking about who came in 3rd

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 11:42 AM (2ENYh)

336 The thing about Trump is, I don't believe he's nearly as wealthy as he likes to tell people. I personally don't think he's a multi-billionaire. So can he really throw say $300 million of his own money into this? I know people like Bloomberg could do that without batting an eye.

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 11:31 AM (2ENYh)

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Very good point. I'm sure the majority of his wealth is tied up in real estate and is not cash-on-hand. But, after his win last night, he has to realize he's all-in at this point. It's his race to lose and he had better be careful to listen to his advisers.

Posted by: Stay out da bushes at February 10, 2016 11:42 AM (rZJS9)

337 Aaaaaand sock gone.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 10, 2016 11:42 AM (9krrF)

338 But why in the world some people here think he is a 10th amendment kind of guy befuddles me. The notion that he would get in there and start abolishing agencies, etc., strikes me as absurd fantasy.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 10, 2016 11:39 AM (T/5A0)

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I dunno the whole "your fired" thing. The fact that he calls anyone associated with DC stupid and idiots. The fact that he knows when to cut his losses.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 10, 2016 11:42 AM (LXJ1e)

339 Here I come to save the day!
That means that Mighty Mouse is on the way!

- Joe Biden

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 11:43 AM (Nwg0u)

340 I still want to know, does the Empress have a motorcycle?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hr6uu34

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 10, 2016 11:44 AM (QbyMe)

341 330 >> And he still beat Gilmore

As a write-in candidate, vs Gilmore actually being on the ballot.

LOL

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 10, 2016 11:45 AM (gyKtp)

342 Joey Bidet is to Humanity,
What Underdog is to Super Heroes.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 10, 2016 11:45 AM (QbyMe)

343 The thing about Trump is, I don't believe he's nearly as wealthy as he likes to tell people.


.01% of his wealth would still solve every problem I have.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 10, 2016 11:45 AM (LUgeY)

344 Listen, when Trump chooses Sessions as VP, everybody will get on board.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 10, 2016 11:46 AM (LXJ1e)

345 Listen, when Trump chooses Sessions as VP, everybody will get on board.



I'd prefer Clint Eastwood...

Posted by: donna at February 10, 2016 11:47 AM (/dSsq)

346 Thanks for the reminder Backwards Boy.

*checks Mega Million numbers*

Nope.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 10, 2016 11:47 AM (QbyMe)

347 Hillary has the horrible mother-in-law vote locked up solid. That is her best hope for a firewall.

Posted by: An Observation at February 10, 2016 11:47 AM (Tv7z4)

348
Looking forward to the spin when Trump embraces the 'establishment'.


Then he guarantees himself no nomination or a one-term presidency.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 10, 2016 11:48 AM (X6fMO)

349 347 Hillary has the horrible mother-in-law vote locked up solid. That is her best hope for a firewall.


Don't forget the Lisa Dunhams and the abortion on demand crew...

Posted by: donna at February 10, 2016 11:48 AM (/dSsq)

350 Joey Bidet is to Humanity,
What Underdog is to Super Heroes.
Posted by: Anna Puma


Underdog was at least an honorable hero.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 10, 2016 11:49 AM (FkBIv)

351 Hillary has humiliating defeat locked up. I hope she kills herself, but doubt she would do us any favors.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at February 10, 2016 11:49 AM (xWW96)

352 I love the headline I saw, Clinton Allies Worry about Message.

Yes, when your message is "vote for Hillary or your going to Hell", the game is pretty much over.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 10, 2016 11:49 AM (LXJ1e)

353 "Vermin Love Supreme is an American performance
artist and activist who has run as a candidate in various local, state,
and national elections in the United States. Supreme is known for
wearing a boot as a hat and carrying a large toothbrush."

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 11:26 AM (/CXhS)

Vermin Supreme runs on a platform of zombie apocalypse preparedness and advocates a free pony based economy. He is actually kinda fun to listen to;-P

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 11:50 AM (OrI3J)

354 Just an FYI, Trump has not sent out a single email begging for money. Not one. Once a week, they send out an email saying where they will be. It's very refreshing. When we get pedal to the metal, there will be people willing to donate.

Posted by: notsothoreau at February 10, 2016 11:50 AM (5HBd1)

355 The debt will be paid by bankruptcy and inflating the currency. Some of government can be cut away -- do away with government student loans (and make student loan debt dis chargeable in bankruptcy)--but this much debt can't be eliminated simply by cutting the bureaucracy.

Posted by: joncelli, that troll with the hand puppet at February 10, 2016 11:50 AM (RD7QR)

356 Don't forget the Lisa Dunhams and the abortion on demand crew...
Posted by: donna


Bernie can trump that with free abortions.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 10, 2016 11:50 AM (FkBIv)

357 Don't forget the Lisa Dunhams and the abortion on demand crew...

Posted by: donna at February 10, 2016 11:48 AM (/dSsq)

Lisa? For the love of G*d please tell me she doesn't have a twin.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 11:51 AM (/CXhS)

358

Vermin Supreme runs on a platform of zombie apocalypse preparedness and advocates a free pony based economy. He is actually kinda fun to listen to;-P



*sigh*

I miss Pat Paulson...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 10, 2016 11:51 AM (LUgeY)

359 To make is simple, let's say he goes in with 40% of the delegates, Cruz has 30% and GOPe has 30%. Why don't Cruz and GOPe just unify? Obviously, Trump could unify with either too. There are probably other factors at play too. But its not that simple that Trump should win with only a plurality.

He may get a majority, I'd bet against it, but not much. Trump may benefit from the winner take all states later in which he has an advantage over Cruz.
Posted by: SH



I think the scenario you laid out is simply not realistic, if Trump just keeps winning state after state, eventually the money dries up for the other candidates as they know they won't actually be the nominee, so why stick around? So you can make sure Jeb gets it?

The idea that a group of Republicans with "Gilmore numbers" is going to be fundraising and doing townhalls until the convention is just not how these things unfold.

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 11:51 AM (ccapd)

360 Great victory for Trump last night but it's only New Hampshire people. Are people going to act like petulant fucking children (on both sides) after every primary?

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 11:51 AM (UnJ7w)

361 Cruz is still my favorite Canadiadate for President.

Posted by: ugg boots at February 10, 2016 11:51 AM (fbovC)

362 Vermin Supreme runs on a platform of zombie apocalypse preparedness and advocates a free pony based economy. He is actually kinda fun to listen to;-P

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 11:50 AM (OrI3J)

Yeah. Reading through his policies

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 11:52 AM (/CXhS)

363 340 I still want to know, does the Empress have a motorcycle?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hr6uu34
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 10, 2016 11:44 AM (QbyMe)

I think a better question is "Would the empress ride a motorcycle in a bikini?"

Posted by: joncelli, that troll with the hand puppet at February 10, 2016 11:53 AM (RD7QR)

364 *taps chin*

Trump/Supreme 2016?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 10, 2016 11:53 AM (QbyMe)

365 360 Great victory for Trump last night but it's only New Hampshire people. Are people going to act like petulant fucking children (on both sides) after every primary


Yes....

Posted by: donna at February 10, 2016 11:53 AM (/dSsq)

366 the dreaded letter from OPM about their information being hacked....

Apparently this fcukup was big enough to get an aunt who used to do airline checkin due to the wonders of TSA.

Posted by: DaveA at February 10, 2016 11:53 AM (DL2i+)

367 I think you can get a Vermin Supreme at Little Caesars.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 10, 2016 11:53 AM (FkBIv)

368 Just an FYI, Trump has not sent out a single email begging for money. Not one. Once a week, they send out an email saying where they will be. It's very refreshing. When we get pedal to the metal, there will be people willing to donate.
Posted by: notsothoreau at February 10, 2016 11:50 AM (5HBd1)

--------------------

if you buy some Trump campaign stuff on his website, that counts as a donation. However, I'm not sure how he is using the money.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 10, 2016 11:54 AM (LXJ1e)

369 I think you can get a Vermin Supreme at Little Caesars.


Chipoltes...

Posted by: donna at February 10, 2016 11:54 AM (/dSsq)

370 I think a better question is "Would the empress ride a motorcycle in a bikini?"

I would posit mini-trike.
It's too cold here for USPS to make live animal deliveries.

Posted by: DaveA at February 10, 2016 11:54 AM (DL2i+)

371 The debt will be paid by bankruptcy and inflating the currency. Some of government can be cut away -- do away with government student loans (and make student loan debt dis chargeable in bankruptcy)--but this much debt can't be eliminated simply by cutting the bureaucracy.


Entire departments can be done away with. ESPECIALLY those that duplicate state departments.
Department of Transportation for starters. Why do we need 50 state DOT's PLUS a federal one?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 11:55 AM (Y42RP)

372 Boy would I love to be able to concentrate.

Posted by: joncelli, that troll with the hand puppet at February 10, 2016 11:55 AM (RD7QR)

373 The debt will be paid by bankruptcy and inflating the currency. Some of government can be cut away -- do away with government student loans (and make student loan debt dis chargeable in bankruptcy)--but this much debt can't be eliminated simply by cutting the bureaucracy.


I disagree. A debt the size of this one is the best excuse EVAH for cutting DC down to size. A savvy candidate needs only to equate the expense of government with that of the average American household, then start eliminating entire departments, starting with the ones duplicated at the state level.

Alas, if no one ever tries it, how will we know it won't work?

Of course that makes sense, so forget it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 10, 2016 11:55 AM (LUgeY)

374 I think a better question is "Would the empress ride a motorcycle in a bikini?"


Hover round...

Posted by: donna at February 10, 2016 11:55 AM (/dSsq)

375 Are people going to act like petulant fucking children (on both sides) after every primary?

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 11:51 AM (UnJ7w)


We can't be bargained with. We can't be reasoned with. We don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And we absolutely will not stop, ever, until the primaries are over.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 11:55 AM (/CXhS)

376 I'm all for Trump being the President of New Hampshire.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 10, 2016 11:56 AM (AEEhl)

377 ...The notion that he would get in there and start abolishing agencies...

I don't think anyone running has come close to promising that. The most anyone can hope is that one or more agency employees might be fired for (actual) incompetence or (actual) illegal activities. Hasn't happened since RWR fired ATC for striking. Trump is the only one running that I might believe would fire someone for other than political reasons.

Posted by: scorecard at February 10, 2016 11:56 AM (j2xmV)

378 I think the scenario you laid out is simply not realistic, if Trump just keeps winning state after state, eventually the money dries up for the other candidates as they know they won't actually be the nominee, so why stick around? So you can make sure Jeb gets it?

------------

Perhaps. It won't dry up for Cruz. He can see this through the end. And it would seem to me that the GOPe will have enough money to keep someone around - whoever that may be. Wouldn't you keep them around just to prevent Trump from winning a majority?

Posted by: SH at February 10, 2016 11:56 AM (gmeXX)

379 I think you can get a Vermin Supreme at Little Caesars.


Chipoltes...




Every fast food joint. Twice at a Chinese buffet.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 11:57 AM (Y42RP)

380 I disagree. A debt the size of this one is the best excuse EVAH for cutting DC down to size. A savvy candidate needs only to equate the expense of government with that of the average American household, then start eliminating entire departments, starting with the ones duplicated at the state level.

Alas, if no one ever tries it, how will we know it won't work?

Of course that makes sense, so forget it.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy




Nothing like that will ever happen unless we have a real currency/bond crisis where inflation spikes like some 3rd world country

I don't care who we nominate, nobody is going to truly cut the federal government down to a manageable size until there is a crisis

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 11:57 AM (ccapd)

381 All of the predictive electronic markets showed a decrease in support fit the GOP to win the White House
you can make 10 times your money by betting on Rafael Cruz to be our next POTUS on Predictit
That shows what people are willing to risk on that happening

Posted by: Bubba at February 10, 2016 11:57 AM (FhT/k)

382
Great victory for Trump last night but it's only New Hampshire people. Are people going to act like petulant fucking children (on both sides) after every primary?


Speaking as someone who likes Trump, but would be happy to pull the lever for Cruz -

When your candidate gets routinely trashed as an ignorant, racist blowhard whose only appeal is to trailer-park, filthy-fingernailed, can't-spell-DOG-without-being-spotted-"D"-and-"G"-and-getting-to-choose-a-vowel proles who need to shut the fuck up and swallow yet another moderate chucklefuck in order to reach across the aisle to a bunch of goddamned traitors. . . .

Well, you'll forgive me if I toss Teh Donald's victory in certain faces.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 10, 2016 11:58 AM (X6fMO)

383 I'm all for Obama being the President of Illinois.

Posted by: scorecard at February 10, 2016 11:58 AM (j2xmV)

384 I see Jeb! is gonna use the scorched earth method on Kasich and Rubio.... Why not Trump and Cruz?

Posted by: donna at February 10, 2016 11:58 AM (/dSsq)

385 "232
what if Trump gets in and says this 19T tax burden on the young is
killing job creation in this country, so let's start cutting the fat out
of this bloated company called "the federal government" and give a lot
of its functions back to the states



Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 10:59 AM (y2NZ3)





Well.....that really is the only play left.



Go hard on the 10th amendment.



Close down as much of the Fed as possible and return those functions to the states.



Cut spending to the bone and let people keep more of their money.





The trick is- will the weasels in Congress go along once the MSM go into full "OMG he's killing the children!" mode?



So, that literally needs to be a first day item.



Then after two years the benefits of said policy will start to show.



I have my doubts that will happen.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2016 11:06 AM (KUa85)"


Since Trump claims to be the king of all deal makers, I think that there is a deal that can be made with the Democrats in Congress. Privatize the work of a lot of government agencies and have the companies that get the contracts locate the offices that will do the work in the Congressional Districts of key Democrats. Actually in the districts of key Congressmen since Republicans are not going to let all that feral gummint money go just to Democrats.

Unlike government workers, the employees at government contractors can be fired. The contracts for which companies are doing the work can also be renegotiated when competing companies offer enough campaign cash, bribes and graft to enough Congressmen and Senators.

The important thing is that the headcount of government workers goes way down and the feral gummint money gets distributed outside of the few counties that surround DC.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at February 10, 2016 11:59 AM (QHgTq)

386 Why do we need 50 state DOT's PLUS a federal one?

There's high opening bids and then there's nutz.

Posted by: DaveA at February 10, 2016 12:00 PM (DL2i+)

387 The truth is out there... somewhere

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zalpgha

Scully...

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 10, 2016 12:00 PM (QbyMe)

388 Nothing like that will ever happen unless we have a real currency/bond crisis where inflation spikes like some 3rd world country

I don't care who we nominate, nobody is going to truly cut the federal government down to a manageable size until there is a crisis



$19 Trillion debt + $200+ Trillion unfunded liabilities = SOON.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 12:00 PM (Y42RP)

389 For all the fellow conservatives here that might go
splodey.... think of all the wailing and gnashing of teeth and hysteric
caterwauling that will go on among the left.





Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 10:07 AM (8XRCm)

Why would the left get hysterical over Republicans electing a Democrat who has already blatantly announced that he is open to making deals with them?

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 12:01 PM (OrI3J)

390 Malkin on Brooks: "The Eddie Haskell of the Fourth Estate." LOL

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2016 12:01 PM (w4NZ8)

391 I don't care who we nominate, nobody is going to truly cut the federal government down to a manageable size until there is a crisis


Sorta like the Average American Household.

Again, it doesn't take much fiscal mismanagement before the AAH starts to see dark clouds on the horizon. At some point, Reality will intrude.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 10, 2016 12:01 PM (LUgeY)

392 Nice picture.

I just took a picture of the pine tree just outside the kitchen window; encased in snow, very Currier and Ives out there right now, in the second day of blizzard conditions that have me snowed in until the wind stops blowing the snow around.

Less than three weeks and February will be over.

Posted by: Phoulish Phodie at February 10, 2016 12:02 PM (98+Sc)

393 Its not that Trump won NH. Its that Trump won NH among all demographic groups. His appeal is near universal.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 10, 2016 12:02 PM (LXJ1e)

394 what if Trump gets in and says this 19T tax burden on the young is killing job creation in this country, [ ... ]

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 10:59 AM (y2NZ3)


It'll be about $20 Trillion by next Jan.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 12:02 PM (zc3Db)

395 ...I don't care who we nominate, nobody is going to truly cut the federal government down to a manageable size until there is a crisis...

Like the Great Depression? God Almighty will cut the World, Federal, State and Local government's down to size when he thinks it is appropriate using techniques that delight and surprise. (I'm praying the means delight and surprise!)

Posted by: scorecard at February 10, 2016 12:02 PM (HSAmh)

396 Speaking as someone who likes Trump, but would be happy to pull the lever for Cruz -

When your candidate gets routinely trashed as an ignorant, racist blowhard whose only appeal is to trailer-park, filthy-fingernailed, can't-spell-DOG-without-being-spotted-"D"-and-"G"-and-getting-to-choose-a-vowel proles who need to shut the fuck up and swallow yet another moderate chucklefuck in order to reach across the aisle to a bunch of goddamned traitors. . . .

Well, you'll forgive me if I toss Teh Donald's victory in certain faces.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing



Boom!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 12:02 PM (Y42RP)

397 The truth is out there... somewhere

http://preview.tinyurl.com/zalpgha

Scully...
Posted by: Anna Puma


I've heard people called banana nose before but...

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 10, 2016 12:03 PM (FkBIv)

398
To make is simple, let's say he goes in with 40% of the delegates, Cruz
has 30% and GOPe has 30%. Why don't Cruz and GOPe just unify?
=====
See my earlier post. Even if the GOPe lined up all their unpledged "super" delegates, that totals just over 8% of all delegates.

It's only 207.

Compare Super Tuesday, March 1, where some 700 delegates are up for grabs.

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 10, 2016 12:04 PM (fQ/0p)

399 "384
I see Jeb! is gonna use the scorched earth method on Kasich and Rubio.... Why not Trump and Cruz?

Posted by: donna at February 10, 2016 11:58 AM (/dSsq)"

A couple of reasons. He may be trying to emerge as first among the also-rans in order to step up if both Trump and Cruz stumble. More likely, at this point he is trying for a Cabinet post and the most likely winners might reward him for shooting the wounded.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at February 10, 2016 12:04 PM (QHgTq)

400 How is it that David Brooks is regarded as a conservative? He isn't even a RINO, is he?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 10, 2016 12:04 PM (hJrjt)

401 Perhaps. It won't dry up for Cruz. He can see this through the end. And it would seem to me that the GOPe will have enough money to keep someone around - whoever that may be. Wouldn't you keep them around just to prevent Trump from winning a majority?
Posted by: SH



Cruz will fade as he continues to lose, the idea that candidates can keep coming in 3rd place with 10% of the vote forever and eventually win the nomination is just not reality. people will fall in line behind the winner as they have every primary.

Winning will only fuel Trump, Cruz is a terrible candidate and every wing of the GOP knows the guy couldn't beat Hillary

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 12:05 PM (ccapd)

402 Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE MARCO RUBIO at February 10, 2016 12:03 PM (XzRw1)

Simmer down, Bert; You seemed much more of friendly chimney sweep in the movie.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2016 12:05 PM (w4NZ8)

403 The winner take all states are big, and are said to be geared more for the establishment. The early states are more proportional, if one gets at least 10% I guess. Trump is staying toward the middle except on border control and trade, where he is strongest. He tweeted in 2013 that illegals can't be made citizens, none of them will vote Republican. At CPAC then, Coulter and Trump spoke against amnesty and "comprehensive immigration reform". Cruz said nothing about it.

@realDonaldTrump
Amnesty is suicide for Republicans.Not one of those 12 million who broke our laws will vote Republican.Obama is laughing at @GOP.

http://tinyurl.com/zxn57bl

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 10, 2016 12:06 PM (5Gpe2)

404 Just woke up from a dream where Obama was getting on a plane to go away, for the last time, like Nixon, going away and not coming back. Then I woke up and realized it was just a dream.

Posted by: Guyian Blundfold at February 10, 2016 12:06 PM (98+Sc)

405 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 10, 2016 11:58 AM (X6fMO)

Yes I can understand that coming from establishment shills but I think the conservative contingent of anti-Trump people are more aggravated that every Trump negative , prior or present position and his contradictions are dismissed with a wave of the hand.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 10, 2016 12:07 PM (AEEhl)

406 Cruz will fade as he continues to lose, the idea that candidates can keep coming in 3rd place with 10% of the vote forever and eventually win the nomination is just not reality. people will fall in line behind the winner as they have every primary.

Winning will only fuel Trump, Cruz is a terrible candidate and every wing of the GOP knows the guy couldn't beat Hillary

-------------

Who says he will keep coming in 3rd place. I recall he has already won one state. We'll see after super tuesday.

There is no reason to argue with you on your other points. Suffice it to say, I disagree with your assesment of Cruz' electability.

Posted by: SH at February 10, 2016 12:07 PM (gmeXX)

407 Mark Steyn favors Trump and was happy The Donald won - but voiced some trepidation over Bernie's win. He thinks Trump can beat Hillary. He's not so sure about Bernie. There were twice as many Bernie voters in NH than there were Trump ones.

For a big segment of the population, the trouble with Obama is that he's not far left enough.

That's scary.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 12:07 PM (u0lmX)

408 Gerald-Oh! called Cruz a "nasty prick".

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 12:08 PM (Nwg0u)

409 402 Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE MARCO RUBIO at February 10, 2016 12:03 PM (XzRw1)

Simmer down, Bert; You seemed much more of friendly chimney sweep in the movie.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2016 12:05 PM (w4NZ

Chim-chimney chim-chimney chim-chim DIE DIE DIE

Posted by: Bert, Finally Round the Bend at February 10, 2016 12:09 PM (RD7QR)

410 Ahhhh to be insane

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 11:40 AM (/CXhS)

And yet he provides a perfectly satirical view of the left (after all, can't all of their lunacy be boiled down to "free ponies for everyone?)

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 12:09 PM (OrI3J)

411 408 Gerald-Oh! called Cruz a "nasty prick".
Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 12:08 PM (Nwg0u)

Badge of honor.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at February 10, 2016 12:09 PM (RD7QR)

412 Gerald-Oh! called Cruz a "nasty prick".

That's rich coming from Him...

Posted by: donna at February 10, 2016 12:10 PM (/dSsq)

413 ...$20 Trillion...

All funny money. Trump is going to push that off onto the corrupt Mexican Government. Not all sarcasm. Financials could be reordered so that dollars and jobs come home and the rest of the world pays for it by buying food, guns and ammunition from the US. It's the US Empire (PAX AMERICANA) that is ending. (Not the US.) The rest of the word can do what they want. Other nations seem to want to create hell on earth because they are being disrespected (face cultures).

Posted by: scorecard at February 10, 2016 12:10 PM (HSAmh)

414 Jerry Rivers both is and has a nasty prick.

I've been critical of Trump, but I'll say this for him: his prick never got anywhere near Maggie Trudeau's vayjayjay.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 12:10 PM (u0lmX)

415 See my earlier post. Even if the GOPe lined up all their unpledged "super" delegates, that totals just over 8% of all delegates.

It's only 207.

Compare Super Tuesday, March 1, where some 700 delegates are up for grabs.
Posted by: RoyalOil


Yea, the idea that Trump is going to be denied the nomination AFTER he wins going away is pretty far fetched

I could see a "worst case" scenario where he has to put someone on the ticket in the VP slot, but even that is pretty far fetched.

If it's Trump in first and a clown car full of losers, the Party might as well just close up shop at the Convention if it decides to hand pick a nominee that never won a single primary

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 12:10 PM (ccapd)

416 Gerald-Oh! called Cruz a "nasty prick".
Posted by: The Great White Snark

Badge of honor.
Posted by: joncelli


Yeah, he should use that in his campaign commercials.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 10, 2016 12:11 PM (FkBIv)

417 So the idiots wanting free college from Bernie are probably in college now. Do they think it will instantly become available? Or that it will be retroactive and they'll have their loans paid off? Even if Bernie wins and then delivers, they would probably not get in on any free college.

Posted by: Dang at February 10, 2016 10:14 AM (2oWD2)

____

Bernie is promising full loan forgiveness. So when you graduate with $180K of debt and a BA in WomYns Studies, that $180K goes poof with Bernie. Or so their thinking goes.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 12:11 PM (0LHZx)

418 Yea, the idea that Trump is going to be denied the nomination AFTER he wins going away is pretty far fetched

----------

How do you define wins going away?

Posted by: SH at February 10, 2016 12:11 PM (gmeXX)

419 DEBT ... it's $200T, when adding in all the unfunded liabilities that are floated out there, to keep the debt pig flying high.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 10, 2016 12:12 PM (5Gpe2)

420 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermin_Supreme

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 10, 2016 11:26 AM (gyKtp)


Heh, all along, I thought Vermin Supreme was a villain from one of the Mad Max movies. Now I see he's just a dipshit.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2016 12:13 PM (Z8fuk)

421 414 Jerry Rivers both is and has a nasty prick.

I've been critical of Trump, but I'll say this for him: his prick never got anywhere near Maggie Trudeau's vayjayjay.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 12:10 PM (u0lmX)

Which is apparently something not many men of her generation can say.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at February 10, 2016 12:13 PM (RD7QR)

422 Cruz will fade as he continues to lose, the idea
that candidates can keep coming in 3rd place with 10% of the vote
forever and eventually win the nomination is just not reality. people
will fall in line behind the winner as they have every primary.



Winning will only fuel Trump, Cruz is a terrible candidate and every wing of the GOP knows the guy couldn't beat Hillary





Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 12:05 PM (ccapd)

At this point both Cruz and Trump are 1 for 2. Your "continue to lose" and "keep coming in 3rd place" rhetoric is not based in reality right now.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 12:13 PM (OrI3J)

423 >>>How is it that David Brooks is regarded as a conservative?

He's at the "pants fetish" end of the spectrum.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 10, 2016 12:14 PM (bpn7O)

424
@realDonaldTrump
Amnesty is suicide for Republicans.Not one of those 12 million who broke our laws will vote Republican.Obama is laughing at @GOP.



Now we're looking (or, rather, I'm looking) at two additional questions:

1. Can Trump pull in a quality percentage of the black vote?

2. If so - and, if after, say, four years of a Trump administration, the same blacks find economic success - will they reconsider their allegiance to the Democrat party?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 10, 2016 12:14 PM (X6fMO)

425 Folks, as much as I love seeing the GOPe being served teh shit sandwiches they've been jamming down our throat for years, the people reminding us that we've had a grand total of two (2) states, one small and the other horrifically nonrepresentative, weigh in are right to do so. Let's hold off on our prognostications a few weeks until we have a clearer idea of the landscape.

Then we can gloat over the broken bodies of our enemies.

Geez, it's like we're a bunch of bad pulp and comic book villains or something...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 10, 2016 12:14 PM (9krrF)

426 419 DEBT ... it's $200T, when adding in all the unfunded liabilities that are floated out there, to keep the debt pig flying high.
Posted by: Illiniwek at February 10, 2016 12:12 PM (5Gpe2)

All the pension funds, local, state, and federal will have to be forced into bankruptcy and then restructured. That's going to have to be the paradigm. No bailouts, no promises, go through the bankruptcy system like any other entity.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at February 10, 2016 12:14 PM (RD7QR)

427 I'm kind of sad Christie is dropping out. I was hoping to see if he could make the Marcobot go full on Blue Screen at the next debate.

Posted by: Buzzion at February 10, 2016 12:14 PM (z/Ubi)

428 not based in reality right now.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 12:13 PM (OrI3J)


And you know about reality how? Show your work.

Posted by: RickZ at February 10, 2016 12:15 PM (Ix+HS)

429 When the elites tell someone who is tired of being told what/where/when to do by the elites that the candidate they support is (tsk tsk) insufficiently elite, it tends to fall on deaf ears.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 10, 2016 12:15 PM (oVJmc)

430 425 Folks, as much as I love seeing the GOPe being served teh shit sandwiches they've been jamming down our throat for years, the people reminding us that we've had a grand total of two (2) states, one small and the other horrifically nonrepresentative, weigh in are right to do so. Let's hold off on our prognostications a few weeks until we have a clearer idea of the landscape.


Old Jeb! is counting on it...

Posted by: donna at February 10, 2016 12:15 PM (/dSsq)

431 Bernie is promising full loan forgiveness. So when you graduate with $180K of debt and a BA in WomYns Studies, that $180K goes poof with Bernie. Or so their thinking goes.

I wonder if any of those little twerps has a plan for dealing with the tax liability that would result...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 10, 2016 12:16 PM (9krrF)

432 Who says he will keep coming in 3rd place. I recall he has already won one state. We'll see after super tuesday.

There is no reason to argue with you on your other points. Suffice it to say, I disagree with your assesment of Cruz' electability.
Posted by: SH


Trump is winning and polling by more than double the 2nd place finisher, so the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th slots are right now basically a point apart.

Not sure if 2nd or 3rd means much if the actual winner beats you by 20 points vs 21 points.

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 12:16 PM (ccapd)

433 431 Bernie is promising full loan forgiveness. So when you graduate with $180K of debt and a BA in WomYns Studies, that $180K goes poof with Bernie. Or so their thinking goes.

I wonder if any of those little twerps has a plan for dealing with the tax liability that would result...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 10, 2016 12:16 PM (9krrF)

That plan would consist of you and me and the remainder of the Horde ponying up for it.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at February 10, 2016 12:17 PM (RD7QR)

434 Just occurred to me...

Haven't liked hearing Trump talking about how he could "make deals" with the Dems.

But, I just thought, for a wheeler dealer like Trump, "making deals" means getting his way.

Like "Religion of Peace" means "Keel all infidels, then we have peace."

(Trying to look for a bright side)

Posted by: mindful webworker - Sefton/Poppins 2016 at February 10, 2016 12:17 PM (K/p7v)

435 I watched a but of Faux this morning and they had Kasich's campaign manager on. And the guy was talking about how after Ohio, on March 15th, they will have a lead in delegates.

And the Faux anchor actually took him seriously. It was quite comedic.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 12:17 PM (0LHZx)

436 Heh, all along, I thought Vermin Supreme was a villain from one of the Mad Max movies. Now I see he's just a dipshit.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2016 12:13 PM


You're being a bit harsh on ol' Verm.

Let us not forget that giving every American their own pony would be a helluva lot cheaper than anything Crazy Uncle Bernie is proposing.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 10, 2016 12:17 PM (GRl5a)

437 436 Heh, all along, I thought Vermin Supreme was a villain from one of the Mad Max movies. Now I see he's just a dipshit.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2016 12:13 PM

You're being a bit harsh on ol' Verm.

Let us not forget that giving every American their own pony would be a helluva lot cheaper than anything Crazy Uncle Bernie is proposing.
Posted by: MrScribbler at February 10, 2016 12:17 PM (GRl5a)

Although cleaning up after a pony in one of those Manhattan micro-apartments could get pretty challenging.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at February 10, 2016 12:19 PM (RD7QR)

438 I wonder if any of those little twerps has a plan for dealing with the tax liability that would result...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 10, 2016 12:16 PM (9krrF)

That plan would consist of you and me and the remainder of the Horde ponying up for it.
Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at February 10, 2016 12:17 PM (RD7QR)

_____

Baristas making $10.50 an hour don't pay any taxes, hence they don't care if taxes double to triple. Tripling $0 still equals $0.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 12:19 PM (0LHZx)

439 "371
The debt will be paid by bankruptcy and inflating the currency. Some of
government can be cut away -- do away with government student loans (and
make student loan debt dis chargeable in bankruptcy)--but this much
debt can't be eliminated simply by cutting the bureaucracy.





Entire departments can be done away with. ESPECIALLY those that duplicate state departments.

Department of Transportation for starters. Why do we need 50 state DOT's PLUS a federal one?



Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 11:55 AM (Y42RP)"


It is not just that government bureaucrats cost money to sit in their offices. The main cost of those people is that many of them do their jobs by writing and enforcing government regulations that add enormously to the burden and danger of private businesses. A great deal of time, money and effort have to be consumed by any business owner in order to avoid running afoul of the ever growing number of regulations with the force of law. Many of these regulations now come with criminal penalties that can actually put a business owner in jail as well as ruining him financially. None of the effort and expense that goes into compliance with government edicts creates any new wealth, goods or services.


As you might expect, fewer and fewer people are now taking the risk involved in starting a new business. This can be seen in the smaller number of startups but also in the decreased demand for money. The reason that interest rates are so low is that fewer people are wanting to borrow money to start or expand a business.


As we have seen with immigration, what affects people's behavior is not the laws on the books but the laws that are enforced. If we fire a whole lot of the government regulators who enforce the regulations, those regulations will be ignored. With less regulatory burden, we will experience a new blossoming of economic activity.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at February 10, 2016 12:19 PM (QHgTq)

440 Trump is winning and polling by more than double the 2nd place finisher, so the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th slots are right now basically a point apart.

------------

So far he has only won one state by more than double. He lost the other one. Perhaps we ought to let a few other states vote.

Posted by: SH at February 10, 2016 12:19 PM (gmeXX)

441 That plan would consist of you and me and the remainder of the Horde ponying up for it.

Not THAT one. The one that results from the kid with the forgiven loan having a one-time $180,000 extra income, boosting them for that year into a much higher tax bracket and hitting them with a nasty tax bill as a result.

Unless it gets declared "tax free". Then it's just all of us getting screwed.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 10, 2016 12:19 PM (9krrF)

442 I'm kind of sad Christie is dropping out. I was hoping to see if he could make the Marcobot go full on Blue Screen at the next debate.Posted by: Buzzion


Pretty funny stuff coming from the deceased. I'm kinda surprised Chris Christie dropped out. Be funny to watch him do a hatchet job like that every debate.

Announcers voice : In next weeks debate Chris Christie sets his sights on Jeb!

Posted by: ugg boots at February 10, 2016 12:20 PM (fbovC)

443 So, would Bernie's 'loan forgiveness' begin my confiscating the billions of endowments of places like Hah-Vahd and using them to fund Bugtussle Community Kollidj?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 10, 2016 12:20 PM (oVJmc)

444 Just occurred to me...

Haven't liked hearing Trump talking about how he could "make deals" with the Dems.

But, I just thought, for a wheeler dealer like Trump, "making deals" means getting his way.



That's what I've tried to tell people.
Trump deals = businessman's deals. Not politicians deals.
Trump wins. Not gives away the farm.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 12:20 PM (Y42RP)

445 Counterpoint on Tweeter has a little salt to pour into Hillary's wound::

Irony: The Democrats created this clueless millennial Occupy mob that's going to bury their establishment candidate.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 12:21 PM (Nwg0u)

446 some reports saying Cristy dropped out. not confirmed I guess.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 10, 2016 12:21 PM (5Gpe2)

447 At this point both Cruz and Trump are 1 for 2. Your "continue to lose" and "keep coming in 3rd place" rhetoric is not based in reality right now.
Posted by: redbanzai


And Trump leads every state from here on out and is beating Cruz by a massive margin.

There is not a single state in the upcoming primary calendar where Cruz is not trailing Trump badly

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 12:22 PM (ccapd)

448
Which is apparently something not many men of her generation can say.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at February 10, 2016 12:13 PM (RD7QR)

The boy PM of Canada is so dense I've wondered if Rivera sired him.

I still can't believe the Canucks dumped an decent Conservative PM for Trudeau - because "we need a change" and also, he's cuter than Harper!

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 12:22 PM (u0lmX)

449 As we have seen with immigration, what affects people's behavior is not the laws on the books but the laws that are enforced. If we fire a whole lot of the government regulators who enforce the regulations, those regulations will be ignored. With less regulatory burden, we will experience a new blossoming of economic activity.

You better remove those regs from the books while you're at it, or it's just a later instrument for control for the next Administration who is willing to selectively enforce it.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 10, 2016 12:22 PM (9krrF)

450 Irony: The Democrats created this clueless millennial Occupy mob that's going to bury their establishment candidate.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 12:21 PM (Nwg0u)


*smiles broadly*

Posted by: Irony at February 10, 2016 12:23 PM (zYV5P)

451 Winning will only fuel Trump, Cruz is a terrible candidate and every wing of the GOP knows the guy couldn't beat Hillary
Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 12:05 PM (ccapd)

Hillary's campaign is imploding. The GOPe hates Cruz because he has called them out repeatedly as being the elitist assholes that they are. I don't know which 'wing' of the GOP you are referring to but the hype of "unelectability" and "Cruz is Nasty" is crap.

The GOPe made the same comments about Ronald Reagan.

Posted by: Cheri at February 10, 2016 12:23 PM (oiNtH)

452 And you know about reality how? Show your work.

Posted by: RickZ at February 10, 2016 12:15 PM (Ix+HS)

Read the rest of my post... I was very clear and it is very short. It should not be a strain on your comprehension to read the One or two sentences before the one you grabbed.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 12:23 PM (OrI3J)

453 Lots of news and blog sites noting that Christie may be dropping out.

Sure hope the Cruz folks don't put out a tweet about that!

Posted by: mindful webworker - Vic/Puma 2016 at February 10, 2016 12:24 PM (K/p7v)

454 Trump wins. Not gives away the farm.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 12:20 PM


To a businessman, the result is everything. It's all bottom line, no "optics" or "reaching across the aisle."

That's one of the reasons I've enjoyed watching all the Hig-Class Political Experts" anal-yzing every word Trump says. They equate everything to their pathetic political dreamworld. Reality makes no sense to them.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 10, 2016 12:24 PM (GRl5a)

455
There is not a single state in the upcoming primary calendar where Cruz is not trailing Trump badly
Posted by: Kal




Well, as of last week or so, Cruz was still winning Texas, and Nevada was tied.

Aside from that, yeah --- pretty much.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2016 12:24 PM (kdS6q)

456
Haven't liked hearing Trump talking about how he could "make deals" with the Dems.

But, I just thought, for a wheeler dealer like Trump, "making deals" means getting his way.

Like "Religion of Peace" means "Keel all infidels, then we have peace."


Yep. I'd like to see Trump ED the Dem fatasses.
He'd be like: Ok, here's da deal, Hairy Reed, this time YOU bend over.

Posted by: @votermom at February 10, 2016 12:24 PM (cbfNE)

457 Whenever someone says look how great Denmark is why can't we be more like Denmark? The reply is....name one product, aside from Legos, that you use that was developed in Denmark.

Where is the Danish equivalent of Google? Amazon? Facebook? Microsoft? Tesla? It's not a fluke that all these companies are American and not Danish (or Swedish, or French, or Norwegian, etc). If you turn the US into Denmark, the American innovation that has given us virtually every major technological breakthrough of the past 100 years will disappear.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 12:25 PM (0LHZx)

458 VERMIN SUPREME WILL FUND BARTERTOWN SCHOOLS WITH A TEN CENT TAX ON GUZZOLINE.

Posted by: Vermin Supreme at February 10, 2016 12:26 PM (VdICR)

459 But, I just thought, for a wheeler dealer like Trump, "making deals" means getting his way.

Or he could be another Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 10, 2016 12:26 PM (FkBIv)

460 I wonder if any of those little twerps has a plan for dealing with the tax liability that would result...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 10, 2016 12:16 PM (9krrF)


Thank you for pointing that out. I need to point that out to some people.

Like gambling winnings, debt forgiveness is considered INCOME and taxed as such. Consider the tax liability on a quarter million debt forgiveness IN ONE YEAR.

(mua-ha-haha!)

Posted by: Kindltot at February 10, 2016 12:26 PM (q2o38)

461 That's one of the reasons I've enjoyed watching all the Hig-Class Political Experts" anal-yzing every word Trump says. They equate everything to their pathetic political dreamworld. Reality makes no sense to them.


And that, friends and Hordelings, is the crux of the biscuit.

And also why #WASTF.

Unless and until reality reasserts itself, we'll continue the downward slide that has been so gleefully embraced by our Progressive domestic enemies.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 10, 2016 12:27 PM (LUgeY)

462 To a businessman, the result is everything. It's all bottom line, no "optics" or "reaching across the aisle."

That's one of the reasons I've enjoyed watching all the Hig-Class Political Experts" anal-yzing every word Trump says. They equate everything to their pathetic political dreamworld. Reality makes no sense to them.
Posted by: MrScribbler


They keep applying political outlooks to a non political actor and then wondering why he is not pigeon holed.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 12:27 PM (Y42RP)

463 Trump will make deals where he wants to get his way. He's good at doing that. The question is what will "his way" be?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 12:28 PM (0LHZx)

464 Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo @ 457

Bingo.

Posted by: Cheri at February 10, 2016 12:28 PM (oiNtH)

465 "You better remove those regs from the books while
you're at it, or it's just a later instrument for control for the next
Administration who is willing to selectively enforce it.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 10, 2016 12:22 PM (9krrF)"

When there are a lot of businesses and economic activity that depend on those regulations not being enforced, there is likely to be a lot of money flowing into K Street to make those regulations go away.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at February 10, 2016 12:28 PM (QHgTq)

466 "If you turn the US into Denmark, the American innovation that has given us virtually every major technological breakthrough of the past 100 years will disappear."


Not to put too fine a point on it, but we punch above our weight pretty often.

Posted by: Israel at February 10, 2016 12:29 PM (ptqRm)

467 STILL ... SINCE IT'S A LIMITED RESOURCE, CAN'T YOU GUYS GET SOMETHING MORE FUEL EFFICIENT?

IS THAT A TAILFIN CADILLAC WELDED TO A CADILLAC, WELDED TO A MONSTER TRUCK CHASSIS? I MEAN, IS THAT REALLY NECCESSARY? I'M JUST SAYING.

Posted by: Vermin Supreme at February 10, 2016 12:29 PM (VdICR)

468 Trump was leading in the polls in Iowa too. He lost. The polls will likely shakeup too as people drop out.

Posted by: SH at February 10, 2016 12:30 PM (gmeXX)

469 Like gambling winnings, debt forgiveness is considered INCOME and taxed as such. Consider the tax liability on a quarter million debt forgiveness IN ONE YEAR.



And IRS debt is damn sure NOT forgivable in bankruptcy proceedings.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 12:30 PM (Y42RP)

470 Read the rest of my post... I was very clear and it is very short. It should not be a strain on your comprehension to read the One or two sentences before the one you grabbed.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 12:23 PM (OrI3J)


You are a moron, and not the good kind. Like I said, show your work to prove you have a smattering of a hint of a whisper of reality.

PS - Commie Core math doesn't work here.

Posted by: RickZ at February 10, 2016 12:30 PM (Ix+HS)

471 I wonder if any of those little twerps has a plan for dealing with the tax liability that would result...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 10, 2016 12:16 PM (9krrF)


Who says they plan on working for a living?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2016 12:31 PM (Z8fuk)

472 Maybe Chris Christie ran out of clean clothes like Ben Carson. Might get a little tough to hop down to the New Hampshire mall and purchase off the rack 72/30 pants.

Posted by: ugg boots at February 10, 2016 12:31 PM (fbovC)

473 Watching the crowds responding to both Sanders and Clinton convinces me that we lost the Cold War and the enemy is in among us. They have gotten through the wire.
Time to dig in and call for fire on your own positions.

Posted by: LGoPs at February 10, 2016 12:31 PM (SK7CK)

474
Bernie is promising full loan forgiveness.

I wonder if any of those little twerps has a plan for dealing with the tax liability that would result...
Posted by: Brother Cavil



Just need to tweek the tax regs to take of that. And since there are already tax free discharges of student debt if you work in certain professions, not much of a stretch.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2016 12:32 PM (kdS6q)

475 "Or he could be another Arnold Schwarzenegger."

Ahnald was a weightlifter turned (semi) actor turned celbrity govenator.

Trump has always been business, into the nitty gritty.

But Jebby is pushing the "Trump is just a celebrity" routine. Jeb is sure that NH proves America is ready for Bush/Clinton. Fourth is the new First.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 10, 2016 12:32 PM (5Gpe2)

476 Oh, great; Are posters insulting others again? Knock it off.

We're all morons-in a good way-except the trolls, of course.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2016 12:33 PM (w4NZ8)

477 I wonder if any of those little twerps has a plan for dealing with the tax liability that would result...

Posted by: Brother Cavil


Who says they plan on working for a living?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon



The IRS can ALWAYS tie tax liability to unemployment and welfare payments and garnish those.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 12:33 PM (Y42RP)

478 If Bernie gets his way with loan forgiveness, he'll make the forgiveness tax free. Or he'll tell the IRS not to penalize people who don't pay. If Obama can tell the border patrol ignore all immigration laws, Bernie can tell the IRS to forgive taxes on debt forgiveness.

You have to remember we live in a world where SCOTUS said laws don't mean what they say, they only mean whatever makes people happy.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 12:33 PM (0LHZx)

479 Does anyone really think that Trump is going to make any "deals" that are worse than what the Paul Ryan Republicans are currently cutting?

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 12:33 PM (ccapd)

480 431 Bernie is promising full loan forgiveness. So when you graduate with $180K of debt and a BA in WomYns Studies, that $180K goes poof with Bernie. Or so their thinking goes.
I wonder if any of those little twerps has a plan for dealing with the tax liability that would result...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 10, 2016 12:16 PM (9krrF)



Here's how: UC Berkeley preparing to 'reinvent' to address financial challenges

http://tinyurl.com/gvfmxlc


No doubt another footlong shit sandwich for taxpayers. Meanwhile, the Grievance and Lawnmowing Studies departments will be sacrosanct.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 10, 2016 12:33 PM (oKE6c)

481 441 That plan would consist of you and me and the remainder of the Horde ponying up for it.

Not THAT one. The one that results from the kid with the forgiven loan having a one-time $180,000 extra income, boosting them for that year into a much higher tax bracket and hitting them with a nasty tax bill as a result.

Unless it gets declared "tax free". Then it's just all of us getting screwed.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 10, 2016 12:19 PM (9krrF)

Ah, I misunderstood. I suppose the legislation could be crafted as a "loan" or something, or maybe stretched out over 20 years so the tax burden is minimal.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at February 10, 2016 12:34 PM (RD7QR)

482 But Jebby is pushing the "Trump is just a celebrity" routine.


So was Ronaldus Magnus.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 10, 2016 12:34 PM (LUgeY)

483 "Farrer" should be "Farther", Henry. Or, if you want to play loose with the rules, "Further" is acceptable.

Posted by: Grammar Nazi at February 10, 2016 12:34 PM (VAsIq)

484 When there are a lot of businesses and economic activity that depend on those regulations not being enforced, there is likely to be a lot of money flowing into K Street to make those regulations go away.

Will it be soon enough? And will it counter the money from K Street that put them there to begin with, that wants them enforced again, and that came from the corps they were written to benefit?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 10, 2016 12:34 PM (9krrF)

485 And Trump leads every state from here on out and is beating Cruz by a massive margin.



There is not a single state in the upcoming primary calendar where Cruz is not trailing Trump badly



Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 12:22 PM (ccapd)

First, Trump was ahead in Iowa IN THE POLLS before their caucus.


Second, there is time and polls change.


Third, it is very offputting that you cannot make your case as to why Trump would be a good president (and therefore why people should choose him) rather than launching attacks on Cruz. "Electability" is the last refuge of scoundrels who have no good reason why you should vote for them rather than against their opponent.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 12:34 PM (OrI3J)

486
There is not a single state in the upcoming primary calendar where Cruz is not trailing Trump badly
Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 12:22 PM (ccapd)

Well let's just suspend the whole process and give it to Trump, right?
This is why we are a Constitutional Republic and not a total democracy. Seriously, you weren't saying this shit after Iowa and Trump was supposed to smash everyone. Let's let the process play out and not be obnoxious obama 2008 supporters, shall we?

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 12:35 PM (UnJ7w)

487 You're being a bit harsh on ol' Verm.

Let us not forget that giving every American their own pony would be a helluva lot cheaper than anything Crazy Uncle Bernie is proposing.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 10, 2016 12:17 PM (GRl5a)


Well, he appears to be an anti-nuke, anti-war peacenik. So a creature of the Left, even if he mocks them. But "dipshit" was meant to convey mild scorn, not utter contempt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2016 12:35 PM (Z8fuk)

488 Does anyone really think that Trump is going to make any "deals" that are worse than what the Paul Ryan Republicans are currently cutting?

---------------

Even if I answered Yes, the real question is who do you trust to make better deals: Trump or Cruz. I go with the latter.

Posted by: SH at February 10, 2016 12:35 PM (gmeXX)

489 Reagan was a two term Governor of California.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 10, 2016 12:35 PM (AEEhl)

490 But Jebby is pushing the "Trump is just a celebrity"
routine. Jeb is sure that NH proves America is ready for Bush/Clinton.
Fourth is the new First.


Posted by: Illiniwek at February 10, 2016 12:32 PM


If not for the "Bush" name, Heb! would have had trouble making it as a Walmart greeter.

Same, in fact, for Shrillery. She tanked on her own, and was only able to do the damage she has done by pimping Bubba's name.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 10, 2016 12:35 PM (GRl5a)

491 Marry Fuck Kill?


http://tinyurl.com/ztchnxz

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 12:36 PM (/CXhS)

492 I feel this thread calls for a funny animal video

Dogs that don't want to bathe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4LnorVVxfw

Have a good rest of the day, everybody.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2016 12:37 PM (w4NZ8)

493 But "dipshit" was meant to convey mild scorn, not utter contempt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2016 12:35 PM


I hafta stand up for Verm. He's almost a neighbor; I can walk to his house from here.

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 10, 2016 12:38 PM (GRl5a)

494 Trump was leading in the polls in Iowa too. He lost. The polls will likely shakeup too as people drop out.
Posted by: SH


A caucus is a poor gauge of support at large. Something like 7% of voters in Iowa participated.

That's why loser candidates like Santorum and Huckabee are able to win there and then go nowhere. Cruz made the same play, he put everything into a small group of voters

Trump basically had zero ground game in Iowa and came in 2nd. Cruz took one more delegate than Trump did.

Had Trump been willing to spend some money there, the nomination would now be over. hopefully he learned his lesson

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 12:38 PM (ccapd)

495 242
I don't get the Beyonce fascination, but then, I like fishing


Ugly inside spreads to outside.

Posted by: Mortimer at February 10, 2016 12:38 PM (Iz75+)

496 Oh, great; Are posters insulting others again? Knock it off.

We're all morons-in a good way-except the trolls, of course.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2016 12:33 PM (w4NZ


'redbanzai' has as much common sense as Bernie Sanders and has as much integrity as Hillarity! Maybe 'redbanzai' is really going for the 'suicidal charge' vote.

Posted by: RickZ at February 10, 2016 12:38 PM (Ix+HS)

497 2 Second!

Posted by: John Kasich at February 10, 2016 10:02 AM


Post of the day.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 10, 2016 12:39 PM (btH0m)

498 467 STILL ... SINCE IT'S A LIMITED RESOURCE, CAN'T YOU GUYS GET SOMETHING MORE FUEL EFFICIENT?

IS THAT A TAILFIN CADILLAC WELDED TO A CADILLAC, WELDED TO A MONSTER TRUCK CHASSIS? I MEAN, IS THAT REALLY NECCESSARY? I'M JUST SAYING.
Posted by: Vermin Supreme at February 10, 2016 12:29 PM (VdICR)
***
Yeah, but it's so shiny and chrome....

Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at February 10, 2016 12:39 PM (imJjo)

499 A caucus is a poor gauge of support at large. Something like 7% of voters in Iowa participated.

------------

And yet Iowa has picked more presidential winners than NH.

Look there are caveats to everything. Right now Trump looks strong. He had a good showing in NH and is leading in many polls. The poll winner does not always win. Let's let a few more states vote before we just hand this thing to Trump.

His best advanatage may be that the 2nd leading candidate is probably hated even more by the establishment.

Posted by: SH at February 10, 2016 12:40 PM (gmeXX)

500 Denmark's socialism "success story" rests on these factors:

1. A stultifying, initiative-killing system of income and VAT taxes that takes approximately 60 percent of a middle-level earner's income;

2. A docile population open to having every aspect of their lives -- from education to medical treatment to consumer choices -- intruded upon and regulated by the government that provides the free shit;

3. A small population that is highly homogenous in culture;

4. Almost no costly military obligations -- America says "you're welcome";

5. Even with all this, the Denmark still needs huge North Sea oil and natural gas revenues to make ends meet. This won't last forever.

I wonder if Bernie's commie kiddies ever stopped to consider how many elements of the socialist wonderland are transferable to the U.S., and what the consequences would be in terms of productivity, privacy and innovation.

No, actually I don't need to wonder at all.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2016 12:41 PM (8ZskC)

501 "[N]ever fight against heavy odds, if by any possible maneuvering you can hurl your own force on only a part, and that the weakest part, of your enemy and crush it. Such tactics will win every time, and a small army may thus destroy a large one in detail, and repeated victory will make it invincible."

Posted by: Stonewall Jackson at February 10, 2016 12:41 PM (bpn7O)

502 457 Whenever someone says look how great Denmark is why can't we be more like Denmark?

Another reason is that Denmark is a tiny country with (until recently) a homogenous population, composed, like most countries, of people who share a genetic background and a history going back many centuries. They also have the residue of the Protestant work ethic going for them, although secularism and socialism have eroded those values. Insofar as socialism can be made to work at all, it will work in countries like that. No innovation - but also no mass bloodshed. It's not like the Danes were ever world leaders of anything, or even leaders in Europe. So comparing Denmark, or any of the Scandi countries, with the US isn't an apples and oranges comparison - it's more like comparing apples with Sherman tanks.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 12:41 PM (u0lmX)

503 it is very offputting that you cannot make your case as to why Trump would be a good president (and therefore why people should choose him) rather than launching attacks on Cruz. "Electability" is the last refuge of scoundrels who have no good reason why you should vote for them rather than against their opponent.
Posted by: redbanzai


because Cruz has accomplished absolutely nothing in life whereas Trump has built an empire?

Cruz's resume is basically "look at all of these things I failed at in the Senate" oh, and also trying to open up H-1 visas to more people from 3rd world countries

So yea, I think Trump has a better track record of actually getting things done

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 12:41 PM (ccapd)

504 Uh oh. Just checked the landlord's twitter feed from last night. He apparently did not like the new Bond film 'Spectre'. At. All.

Get ready for a 7,000 word movie review later on today.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 12:41 PM (maOV6)

505 458 VERMIN SUPREME WILL FUND BARTERTOWN SCHOOLS WITH A TEN CENT TAX ON GUZZOLINE.
Posted by: Vermin Supreme at February 10, 2016 12:26 PM (VdICR)
***
I think the Gastown Boys might have something to say about that.

Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at February 10, 2016 12:41 PM (imJjo)

506 Bears repeating, Trump advocates are just like Trump.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 10, 2016 12:42 PM (AEEhl)

507 RickZ: ...You are a moron, and not the good kind....

Clearly, it's intended as verboten (or, at least, discouraged) ad hominem - still, calling a commenter here a moron is debatably funny. Or ironic. Or something.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Muldoon/Chique 2016 at February 10, 2016 12:42 PM (K/p7v)

508 Trumps best advantage is firing the GOPE apparatus. Cruz, who I want, still needs them. Trump doesn't

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 12:42 PM (5+siD)

509 Trump's next challenge is to get over 50% in primaries as the field winnows. Cruz is an obstacle to this as their support has overlap, and Cruz has financial staying power. If Trump doesn't get to Cleveland with a majority of delegates, or a deal with Cruz, the GOPe can move to pick a non-Trump/non-Cruz.

Expect Bush to hang in through Florida, if only to screw with Rubio. Bush may not have the financial staying power to stay in the race past then.

Money now becomes an issue for Kasich and Rubio. Rubio is already wounded. Does the Establishment now back Kasich?

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2016 12:43 PM (r1fLd)

510 His best advanatage may be that the 2nd leading candidate is probably hated even more by the establishment.
Posted by: SH at February 10, 2016 12:40 PM (gmeXX)

Well said.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 12:43 PM (UnJ7w)

511 On to SC! HEEEEEYAAAAAGH!!

Posted by: Soona at February 10, 2016 12:43 PM (Fmupd)

512 Another reason is that Denmark is a tiny country with (until recently) a homogenous population, composed, like most countries, of people who share a genetic background and a history going back many centuries. They also have the residue of the Protestant work ethic going for them, although secularism and socialism have eroded those values. Insofar as socialism can be made to work at all, it will work in countries like that. No innovation - but also no mass bloodshed. It's not like the Danes were ever world leaders of anything, or even leaders in Europe. So comparing Denmark, or any of the Scandi countries, with the US isn't an apples and oranges comparison - it's more like comparing apples with Sherman tanks.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 12:41 PM (u0lmX)

_____

Bbbbbut everyone in Denmark has free college and health care and the UN says they're the happiest people on earth. Stop spewing right wing lies!!!!!ty

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 12:43 PM (0LHZx)

513 Probably already mentioned, but:

Up top at WZ -
Even after a thorough ass-kicking in NH, Hollary! still walks away with more delegates than The Bern.

Gotta love that Democrat party.

Posted by: Chi at February 10, 2016 12:44 PM (OUpHg)

514 And yet Iowa has picked more presidential winners than NH.

Posted by: SH at February 10, 2016 12:40 PM (gmeXX)

____

They both have a pretty shitty track record. Iowa picked Huck and Santorum and NH picked Hillary and McCain.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 12:45 PM (0LHZx)

515
No doubt another footlong shit sandwich for taxpayers. Meanwhile, the Grievance and Lawnmowing Studies departments will be sacrosanct.


Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 10, 2016 12:33 PM (oKE6c)

Yeah, and if any lawmaker dares to suggest that the Grievance and Lawnmowing Studies departments be done away with, there will be screams "you anti-intellectual mouth breather, how dare you infringe on academic freedom! Only we can do that!"

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 12:45 PM (u0lmX)

516 506
Bears repeating, Trump advocates are just like Trump.


In before "nana nana boo boo".

Posted by: Mortimer at February 10, 2016 12:45 PM (Iz75+)

517 I was going to say Denmark has Nokia but that's a Finnish company. They do produce tall people.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 10, 2016 12:45 PM (AEEhl)

518 Crap mistaken again. It's the Dutch who produce tall people.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 10, 2016 12:46 PM (AEEhl)

519 I was too quick to write off Trump before, and now I feel like people are making the same mistake with Cruz.

Posted by: Max Power at February 10, 2016 12:47 PM (QCc6B)

520 because Cruz has accomplished absolutely nothing in life whereas Trump has built an empire?

Cruz's resume is basically "look at all of these things I failed at in the Senate" oh, and also trying to open up H-1 visas to more people from 3rd world countries

So yea, I think Trump has a better track record of actually getting things done

--------------

He inherited an empire too. I like Trump so I don't bash him gratuitiously. But success in the business world does not translate to success in the governmental world. The two are completely different. Cruz didn't get things done, because he is an outlier. As 1 of 100 he is limited, as the head of the executive branch he is not. Cruz has at least shown he is willing to shut down the government. Has trump? If you are unable to shut down the government, you will never win a budget battle.

You want a wrecking ball - so do I. The one you support says he will make deals - great deals - well I don't want deals. I want reductions.

Trump has FU money. Great, he can simply say FU to his voters.

I don't hate or dislike Trump. I just don't want him as President.

Posted by: SH at February 10, 2016 12:47 PM (gmeXX)

521 Finland has Nokia and Sweden has Volvo & Ikea. But that's about it. These are huge behemoths that were founded decades ago. France has a few as well. But there is no innovation at the start up level in part because the huge behemoths are in bed with the socialist governments and work together to crush and potential competitors.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 12:47 PM (0LHZx)

522 Copehagen is a cool city. Nice place to visit. Do not want to live there or have there come here.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2016 12:47 PM (/tuJf)

523
because Cruz has accomplished absolutely nothing in life whereas Trump has built an empire?


Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 12:41 PM (ccapd)

I wouldn't call arguing and winning cases at the Supreme Court level nothing.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 12:47 PM (u0lmX)

524 I was going to say Denmark has Nokia but that's a Finnish company. They do produce tall people.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 10, 2016 12:45 PM (AEEhl)


Denmark has Danish bacon. In cans, which you can buy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 10, 2016 12:47 PM (Z8fuk)

525 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February

Loved the video and indeed refreshing!

Near my home their is a coin operated dog wash where you can lead your pooch up a ramp that goes into a bath where you can then connect him to a leash to keep him in the tub. They have all kinds of shampoo and cream rinse dispensers, aprons to wear, power sprayers, etc.

Good place to meet people as well

Posted by: Cheri at February 10, 2016 12:47 PM (oiNtH)

526 Secret Service looking for a new sidearm?

Thought not.

http://tinyurl.com/h5mgy6z


'Vice President Joe Biden explains why smart guns are the quickest way to a safer America, without infringing on any Second Amendment rights.'

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 12:48 PM (/CXhS)

527 I was going to say Denmark has Nokia but that's a Finnish company. They do produce tall people.


Denmark is also responsible for those butter cookies that come in tins, so there's that.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2016 12:48 PM (8ZskC)

528 Florida has a ton of delegates and is winner take all. Trump has a huge lead there

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 12:48 PM (5+siD)

529 Small Scandanavian countries are terrible places to draw big conclusions from about government policies.

Many of these are the size of a medium sized American city and have oil revenues to sponge off. Negative birth rates, lily white, no military etc.

Even then, if you've spent time there, a poor American honestly has a better standard of living than a middle class European.

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 12:49 PM (ccapd)

530 Actually Volvo isn't Swedish anymore. It's owned by Ford.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 12:49 PM (0LHZx)

531
NB: Since 1976, the eventual Republican Presidential nominee has won the Iowa caucus and/or the New Hampshire primary.

No exceptions.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2016 12:49 PM (kdS6q)

532 Redbanzai, I also supported obamatrade, how do you like me now?

Posted by: Raphael Cruz at February 10, 2016 12:49 PM (SOVQ8)

533 So yea, I think Trump has a better track record of actually getting things done
Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 12:41 PM (ccapd)

I guess the Breitbart comment section isn't fun when all you guys are parroting the same lines. We get it, Trump won, whoop dee fucking doo. I vehemently oppose the Establishment with with great fury, but I'm not going to troll other people who refuse to stick Trump's dick in their mouth at this point in time though. Just chill and let the process play out. Let Trump do his thing. Most will come around, inspite of your dumb conjecture. Just sit back, relax and enjoy Trump's victory that you had nothing to do with.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 12:50 PM (UnJ7w)

534 Heh.

Sean Davis @seanmdav

In case you haven't noticed, Chris Christie's entire career revolves around shivving other Republicans.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 12:50 PM (maOV6)

535 It's a long campaign ... and we're truly in uncharted waters. Anyone that "knows" how this is going to turn out is lying - either to them or yourselves.

The only things I "think" I know, at this point, are these ...

1) Both parties are built on coalitions that are no longer unified. Both parties are trying to win a war while preventing internal civil war.

2) Both parties are trying to hold onto their existing power, in an Information Age that makes them less powerful than ever.

Posted by: Irony at February 10, 2016 12:50 PM (BHaRb)

536 So was Ronaldus Magnus.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 10, 2016 12:34 PM (LUgeY)

So not the case. Reagan was a two term governor and had both a deep instinctual and intellectual understanding of conservatism. Go to Youtube and type in "Reagan A time of Choosing" for a very good example of this.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 12:50 PM (OrI3J)

537 Even then, if you've spent time there, a poor American honestly has a better standard of living than a middle class European.
Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 12:49 PM (ccapd)

____

The poorest state in the US - Mississippi - have a higher GDP per capita than Great Britain.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 12:50 PM (0LHZx)

538
Ah, I misunderstood. I suppose the legislation
could be crafted as a "loan" or something, or maybe stretched out over
20 years so the tax burden is minimal.
Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at February 10, 2016 12:34 PM (RD7QR)


The IRS will set you up on a 20 year payment plan. With fantastic interest and ongoing penalties. And if you ever default you still pay for it via garnishment. Better not have any bank accounts at that point either because you won't have any afterwards.

It's your fault for being rich.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 10, 2016 12:50 PM (q2o38)

539 Sweden doesn't have Volvo. Geely Automotive of China has Volvo.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2016 12:50 PM (8ZskC)

540 Wow... The bern and hill have equal delegates... more popcorn please. This is going to get good and real fast.

Posted by: E.T. at February 10, 2016 12:51 PM (yq4gk)

541
But Jebby is pushing the "Trump is just a celebrity" routine.


Look who's talking about celebrity. If !Jeb's last name wasn't "Bush," he'd be squatting under the freeway overpass with a scrawled sign reading "will tongue taint for money."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 10, 2016 12:51 PM (X6fMO)

542 My worry is if my preferred candidate can win in the general. I'm not sure he can

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 12:51 PM (5+siD)

543 I think that it is a mistake to write off all Trump supporters as, something, not sure what. It isn't slack jawed yokels so not sure what you would call it.

I like Cruz, I think he whip smart and he believes the right things and he is a real Christian and I pull for the people on my team. But, I can't imagine a black person voting for him other than the led singer of the Newsboys. And he isn't "real" Latin that won't work either.

Trump will win votes no other Republican will draw.

Posted by: blaster at February 10, 2016 12:51 PM (2Ocf1)

544 Denmark has Danish bacon. In cans, which you can buy.




Ever eat a canned, Danish ham? That's why they are exported.
Just sayin'.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 12:51 PM (Y42RP)

545 Jim Geraghty's 'Morning Jolt' take on Sanders in NH is worth reading:
http://tinyurl.com/gw8tbyk

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2016 12:51 PM (oFSUK)

546 Kill. Kill. Kill. Then some mind-bleach because you thought about the alternatives.

Jeb the mewling quim hates Trump? I enjoy this rumor.

David Brooks is in the news, because has many leather-bound books and rich mahogany.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2016 12:52 PM (VdICR)

547 "Winning will only fuel Trump, Cruz is a terrible candidate and every wing of the GOP knows the guy couldn't beat Hillary"
Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 12:05 PM (ccapd)l
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All polls show that Cruz is FAR more electable in the general than Trump. He either slightly leads Hillary or is in a statistical dead heat with her.
But Hillary beats Trump easily.

You may (justifiably) argue that these early polls mean very little, if anything. But I don't think you can ignore Trump's sky-high negatives.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 10, 2016 12:52 PM (T/5A0)

548 This black life matters.

http://tinyurl.com/z4lg27h

This one doesn't.

http://tinyurl.com/jsouyjs

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 12:52 PM (Nwg0u)

549 Cruz's ivy league law career is only slightly more interesting than all the other ivy league lawyers that go to washington to screw us in the ass. And then there is his Goldman Sach's wife...

Perfect establishment pedigree.

Posted by: ChocoCheese at February 10, 2016 12:52 PM (OvUux)

550 I am becoming amused at the walls of words people use to bash or defend a candidate.

It's times like this tha I like to keep it simple.

I will vote for Trump, Cruz, and yes, even Rubio. Each one of these candidates would be exponentially better than the muzzie/marxist shitball that's in office now.

Posted by: Soona at February 10, 2016 12:52 PM (Fmupd)

551 My relative has lived in Denmark for awhile. He says VAT taxes are enough to make people not go out to restaurants and the like.

Welfare state can last longer when the grandma you're paying for is genetically close to your actual grandma. Europe had to fight through hundreds of years of ethnic cleansing to reach this happy state.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2016 12:52 PM (r1fLd)

552 Bears repeating, Trump advocates are just like Trump.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 10, 2016 12:42 PM (AEEhl)

*congregation of all kinds of bears, black bears, grizzly bears, polar bears, gay bears, stock market bears, chanting*

Trump advocates are just like Trump.
Trump advocates are just like Trump.
Trump advocates are just like Trump.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 12:53 PM (xuouz)

553 I like Trump not so much for who he is but for what he represents. He's a big FUCK YOU to the GOPe. I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be with him actually becoming president. But I think my desire to blow up the GOPe is greater than my trepidation about a Trump presidency.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 12:53 PM (0LHZx)

554 Ever eat a canned, Danish ham? That's why they are exported.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: rickb223
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Rubbery as hell, but, I buy them on sale as back-up provisions. They are the last stop before I attempt to slaughter the cat.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2016 12:53 PM (oFSUK)

555 The poorest state in the US - Mississippi - have a higher GDP per capita than Great Britain.



Ouch!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 12:53 PM (Y42RP)

556 I don't hate or dislike Trump. I just don't want him as President.


I'm a Cruzer, but Donald Trump's Hair is my President Camacho. I'll vote for Cruz down here in the primary if he's on still on the ballot, but if it comes down to Trump vs Socialist/Commie in November, I'll be pulling that voting lever like a crack-addicted laboratory monkey dead Dimocrat voter.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 10, 2016 12:54 PM (LUgeY)

557 You want a wrecking ball - so do I. The one you support says he will make deals - great deals - well I don't want deals. I want reductions.

Trump has FU money. Great, he can simply say FU to his voters.

I don't hate or dislike Trump. I just don't want him as President.
Posted by: SH


But you're making the case as if Cruz is going to be a dictator and can make large cuts to the government without working with Congress.

You can't "executive order" trillions of dollars of cuts in government. You might be able to cut a few jobs on some superfluous gov't agencies, but that's not even a rounding error

The idea that Cruz vetoing some bills is going to fix America is not based in reality.

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 12:54 PM (ccapd)

558 496
Oh, great; Are posters insulting others again? Knock it off.



We're all morons-in a good way-except the trolls, of course.



Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 10, 2016 12:33 PM (w4NZ



'redbanzai' has as much common sense as Bernie Sanders and has as
much integrity as Hillarity! Maybe 'redbanzai' is really going for the
'suicidal charge' vote.

Posted by: RickZ at February 10, 2016 12:38 PM (Ix+HS)

Fraud, Sigmund Fraud.... please pick up the white courtesy phone.

Posted by: projection at February 10, 2016 12:54 PM (OrI3J)

559 So comparing Denmark, or any of the Scandi countries, with the US isn't an apples and oranges comparison - it's more like comparing apples with Sherman tanks.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 12:41 PM (u0lmX)


^^^^! The comparisons are laughable, but try telling the retards that?

Cranialsplodey.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at February 10, 2016 12:55 PM (zYV5P)

560 >>Winning will only fuel Trump, Cruz is a terrible candidate and every wing of the GOP knows the guy couldn't beat Hillary

Hillary is getting beaten by an aging full on communist. She is once again demonstrating to the world that seems to forget this every so often that she is a horrible candidate and people do not like her.

I don't anyone knows anything about who is and who isn't electable anymore.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2016 12:55 PM (/tuJf)

561 Please Trump went to Wharton. This is getting silly.

Posted by: ThunderB at February 10, 2016 12:55 PM (5+siD)

562 Kal we haven't seen any of that often prophetized inflation have we?
Instead we have seen a super strong dollar and the rest of the world just can't seem to get enough of our super popular 100$ bills They don't want gold they want our paper
It only costs 3 cents to print a 100$ bill
I say keep those presses going full time 24/7 for as long as the rest of the world wants them
The economic predictions of conservatives have not come true
Will they ?
Sure sometime, but remember in the future
We are all dead anyway
In the near run
More 100$ bills please

Posted by: Bubba at February 10, 2016 12:55 PM (FhT/k)

563 Cruz's ivy league law career is only slightly more interesting than all the other ivy league lawyers that go to washington to screw us in the ass. And then there is his Goldman Sach's wife...

Perfect establishment pedigree.

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And yet, the guy from Texas who went to Harvard and married a person who works for GS came out against corn subsidies while the guy from New York with his own Ivy league education and his NY liberal values did not. I bet he has dealt with GS at some point too.

Posted by: SH at February 10, 2016 12:55 PM (gmeXX)

564 Rubbery as hell, but, I buy them on sale as back-up provisions. They are the last stop before I attempt to slaughter the cat.



Happiest day in the house? The day I tossed, UNOPENED, the Y2k stash.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 12:56 PM (Y42RP)

565 I watched a but of Faux this morning and they had Kasich's campaign
manager on. And the guy was talking about how after Ohio, on March 15th,
they will have a lead in delegates.



And the Faux anchor actually took him seriously. It was quite comedic.
=======
Skipped right past denial and went straight for delusion.

He has 4 fucking delegates right now.

There are some 700 delegates up for grabs on March 1. Almost all of those proportional.

March 5 tosses in another 146 proportional.
March 6 adds 20 from Communist Rico.
March 8 sees 148, all proportional
March 12, 22 more.
March 15 has 355 up for grabs. Of those, only FL (99) and OH (63) are winner-take-all.

He. Has. No. Fucking. Chance.


Posted by: RoyalOil at February 10, 2016 12:56 PM (fQ/0p)

566 Trump has better hair. I think.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 10, 2016 12:57 PM (GGCsk)

567 When I was 22 I spent a summer traveling around Europe. And man I loved the culture of cafes, and chilling out and everyone was relaxed and din't work crazy hours like Americans. And they had cool fast trains and lots of subways and street cars that could get you around without needed a car. UTOPIA BABY!!

Little did I know - or think about - that pretty much everyone in cities lives in a small apartments or that the reason they all take the subway is because a car is unaffordable to anyone but the upper middle class.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 12:57 PM (0LHZx)

568 Limbaugh has just pointed out that even though Bernie got 60% of the votes in NH, he came away with two fewer delegates than Hillary.

They must have tossed a coin. A Democrat coin. I keep wondering if Bernie is going to explode in a tirade against the DNC and Hillary. Nah. It's too much to hope for.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2016 12:58 PM (oFSUK)

569 Obama will be addressing the Illinois legislature this afternoon (1pm central) livestreamed on WGN. Remarks are supposed to be about 'bipartisanship' and an end to gerrymandering. I don't know if anyone has the stomach to watch or listen, but the hypocrisy will be stunning.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 10, 2016 12:58 PM (MIKMs)

570 Look who's talking about celebrity.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 10, 2016 12:51 PM (X6fMO)

Please clap.

Posted by: Jeb! Bush at February 10, 2016 12:58 PM (UnJ7w)

571 God I hate seeing koolaid drinking Trumpers trash Cruz.

He is not a lightweight. He is not establishment. He is not a foreigner. He is not a cheater (any more than any other candidate). And he sure as shit isn't a pussy.

Competitive chess is dominated by 20 and early 30 year olds. Competitive checkers is dominated by 60, 70, and 80 year old champions.

Law is chess.
Politics is checkers.

Cruz rules but he isn't ready for the general. In my humble and unsolicited opinion.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 12:58 PM (xuouz)

572 off "projection" sock...

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 12:58 PM (OrI3J)

573 Incidentally, a local cop was shot six times and killed for apparently no reason by a 17 year old boy two days ago. (Actually, he's being kept alive until his organs can be harvested.)

http://tinyurl.com/jqmyqbc

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 12:58 PM (Nwg0u)

574 I am becoming amused at the walls of words people use to bash or defend a candidate.

Posted by: Soona at February 10, 2016 12:52 PM (Fmupd)


I wouldn't read too much into it. Sometimes long posts are just a reasonable tactic to stay out of the weekly Hall of Shame.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 12:58 PM (zc3Db)

575 Enjoying progressive utopia is all about attenuating your hopes, dreams, and expectations of life, take the meager handouts, shut up, and tow the line...Or ELSE!

Posted by: ChocoCheese at February 10, 2016 12:58 PM (OvUux)

576 Up top at WZ -
Even after a thorough ass-kicking in NH, Hollary! still walks away with more delegates than The Bern.

Gotta love that Democrat party.

Posted by: Chi at February 10, 2016 12:44 PM (OUpHg)


You know, I'm starting to wonder if the ideal situation for us wouldn't be for the Bern to give Hill a good run for her money during the primary season so all those SJW are out there volunteering, getting all starry-eyed thinking about the coming Socialist Paradise - and then the Dem machine utterly crushes their dreams by making sure Hill has more delegates.

I think that would be just about perfect, really. Young people normally don't show up at the polls on election day. They did for Obama and they would for Bernie, but for Madame Cankles McMoneybags? A Sanders loss to her might demoralize them so much they'd spend the remainder of the year in their safe space, curled up and sucking their thumbs, rather than standing on street corners, cluelessly shilling for their daddy substitute.

So, as satisfying at it is to imagine Hill's screeching and sobbing if she loses the nomination - I am kinda hoping she doesn't. I hope she pulls it out by clearly and obviously cheating.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 12:58 PM (u0lmX)

577 No one has ever been elected with 60% negatives. Trump isn't the safe choice or the smart choice.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2016 12:59 PM (VdICR)

578 Haha. I just got an email to participate in the official GOP election survey.

Posted by: Buzzion at February 10, 2016 12:59 PM (z/Ubi)

579 Volvo, of which we own two of them, has actually gone up in quality since Ford sold them to China.

Actually, rather odd.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 10, 2016 12:59 PM (ptqRm)

580 Trump will win votes no other Republican will draw.


And if elected, will have more of a positive impact on society. Make American Great vs You Dind Make That.

*taps chin* I wonder which one will actually resonate with more people?

Trump could be the anti-TFP. That's my hope, anyway.

OK, I'm out. Y'all try and behave.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 10, 2016 12:59 PM (LUgeY)

581 I'm as much apart of the establishment as the rest, I play the rebel among the group.

Posted by: Raphael Cruz at February 10, 2016 12:59 PM (SOVQ8)

582 But you're making the case as if Cruz is going to be a dictator and can make large cuts to the government without working with Congress.

You can't "executive order" trillions of dollars of cuts in government. You might be able to cut a few jobs on some superfluous gov't agencies, but that's not even a rounding error

The idea that Cruz vetoing some bills is going to fix America is not based in reality.

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I don't think I have made the case that I want Cruz to be a dictator, and if I did, it was inadvertent.

I'm under no illusion that Cruz will fix everything. Neither will Trump. But Cruz has a better ability to move us into the right direction.

Posted by: SH at February 10, 2016 12:59 PM (gmeXX)

583 They must have tossed a coin. A Democrat coin. I keep wondering if Bernie is going to explode in a tirade against the DNC and Hillary. Nah. It's too much to hope for.



The "fix" is in and Bernie is a party to it.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 01:00 PM (Y42RP)

584 One of the things I expect Trump to do if President is to veto any omnibus spending bill and force separate bills by "line of business." Any good businessman would do this instinctively. Then you can sweat out the fat. Some of the savings can be redirected to things like Veteran's healthcare. Ryan may be an ally in this. If McConnell resists I'd fry his ass.

Bonus points if Trump blows up federal workers unions.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2016 01:00 PM (r1fLd)

585 Kal we haven't seen any of that often prophetized inflation have we?


WTF?

Posted by: Stephen Glass at February 10, 2016 01:00 PM (rwI+c)

586 Even then, if you've spent time there, a poor American honestly has a better standard of living than a middle class European.
Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 12:49 PM (ccapd)

____

The poorest state in the US - Mississippi - have a higher GDP per capita than Great Britain.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo


I have a wealthy friend through my business that lives in Norway and our families got together and spent some time over there.

For better of for worse, we simply have a lot more stuff, things like multiple cars, appliances, electronics, HVAC, etc. These are things only the upper middle class and wealth has.

Sure, you get "free healthcare" , but health care used to be an $80 monthly insurance payment. And over there, a trip to the doctor is like visiting a charity health clinic is in the US

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 01:00 PM (ccapd)

587 dammit

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 10, 2016 01:00 PM (rwI+c)

588 579 Volvo, of which we own two of them, has actually gone up in quality since Ford sold them to China.

Actually, rather odd.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 10, 2016 12:59 PM (ptqRm)

_____

They were so shitty in the Ford era it wasn't hard to improve. But the real Volvos of the 70s/80s, now those were solid cars. I had a couple in the family growing up and they were tanks that never broke down. The 240s and 740s, the true Volvos before they decided to fuck with a winning formula and nearly destroyed the brand.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 01:02 PM (0LHZx)

589 I don't think I have made the case that I want Cruz to be a dictator, and if I did, it was inadvertent.

I'm under no illusion that Cruz will fix everything. Neither will Trump. But Cruz has a better ability to move us into the right direction.
Posted by: SH



You keep saying you don't want someone "cutting deals", I'm saying if Cruz just vetoes bills Congress passes, what exactly gets fixed?

At some point, you have to have someone that works well with others

Reagan passed his agenda with a Democrat Congress through most of his Presidency

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 01:02 PM (ccapd)

590 Cruz would be rendered totally neutered as Bush was. Bush had a few proposals that were actually conservative, but he would be immediately bashed by the democrat-media complex, and not defended byt the "opposition" party GOP. Cruz does not inspire confidence that he will fight for his agenda. And he will be facing the same democrat-media complex, and the same milquetoast GOPers.

Posted by: ChocoCheese at February 10, 2016 01:02 PM (OvUux)

591 No one has ever been elected with 60% negatives.

Nothing makes sense any more. Nobody ever won an election with a huge foreign policy scandal and terrible economy like Obama in 2012. Nobody ever won a state by spending so little like Trump. The rules are all broken, nothing works to predict any longer.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 01:02 PM (39g3+)

592 You know ... It would be fun to watch these Millennials get a dose of reality ... good and hard ... if Bernie get's screwed by the primary process.

I just can not stand most of that generation.

Posted by: Irony at February 10, 2016 01:03 PM (BHaRb)

593 Little did I know - or think about - that pretty much everyone in cities lives in a small apartments or that the reason they all take the subway is because a car is unaffordable to anyone but the upper middle class.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
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I recall that the bathtub at a friend's apartment (there was no shower) in Paris was about three feet one meter long. We referred to it as the Toulouse-Lautrec tub. The 'water heater' was a wall-hung gas-fired gizmo that seemed to fire up and shut down arbitrarily, without any regard for the water temperature.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2016 01:03 PM (oFSUK)

594 At some point, you have to have someone that works well with others
Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 01:02 PM (ccapd)

Hey what am I chopped liver?

Posted by: Paul Ryan at February 10, 2016 01:04 PM (UnJ7w)

595 ...at 568...Bernie let two BLM activists push him into giving up his microphone at an event last year. To think he'd fight anyone is laughable...the man is a pussy.

Posted by: billygoat at February 10, 2016 01:04 PM (INxoa)

596 Eh.
If by some utterly bizarre miracle --- and that's what it would take --- Trump became president, I'm sure he'd be far better than the Bitch of Benghazi. Or the Bolshevik of Burlington.

Hey! Where is Mary Cloggenstein? I bet she crossed over into NH to vote for Bernie and then got lost on the way home.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 10, 2016 01:04 PM (T/5A0)

597 No one has ever been elected with 60% negatives.

In fairness, were I willing to take a poll, I would have to admit that I detest Trump, strongly, but I would probably vote for him given no other choice, probably. Somewhere between maybe and probably anyway.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 10, 2016 01:04 PM (rwI+c)

598 Cruz rules but he isn't ready for the general. In my humble and unsolicited opinion.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 12:58 PM (xuouz)

Since checkers is just dumbed down chess, and Cruz has already mastered chess, I am more than willing to bet he is ready for the general (unless you are arguing only old people should be President).

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 01:04 PM (OrI3J)

599 One of the things I expect Trump to do if President is

I wouldn't place any hope of any expectations. He is a total wild card.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 10, 2016 01:05 PM (ODxAs)

600 You can't "executive order" trillions of dollars of cuts in government. You might be able to cut a few jobs on some superfluous gov't agencies, but that's not even a rounding error

The idea that Cruz vetoing some bills is going to fix America is not based in reality.

--

I have a lot more confidence in Cruz' ability to pick Supreme Court nominees.

Posted by: joe at February 10, 2016 01:05 PM (KUaJL)

601 Cruz would be rendered totally neutered as Bush was.

He definitely would face complete opposition. If you think you've seen uniparty before, wait until they both have an enemy they fear more than each other.

Cruz does not inspire confidence that he will fight for his agenda.

I dunno, he filibustered Obamacare on his own in direct defiance of the GOP leadership.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 01:05 PM (39g3+)

602 541 If !Jeb's last name wasn't "Bush," he'd be squatting under the freeway
overpass with a scrawled sign reading "will tongue taint for money."


That there is some high quality slammage, MP4.

Quite a schlonging.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 10, 2016 01:05 PM (gyKtp)

603
All polls show that Cruz is FAR more electable in the general than Trump. He either slightly leads Hillary or is in a statistical dead heat with her. But Hillary beats Trump easily.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille



Nah. Check the RCP trackers for the match ups. Cruz does about 5 points better than Trump in HTH. That's MOE, especially for such a bouncy stat.

And if that's your metric -- Rubio is your man.

Your teeny tiny squeaky voiced man.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2016 01:05 PM (kdS6q)

604 So, as satisfying at it is to imagine Hill's screeching and sobbing if she loses the nomination - I am kinda hoping she doesn't. I hope she pulls it out by clearly and obviously cheating.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016


------------------------


I also think the Hildebeast would be much easier to beat in the general. But, yes, the youngin's need a lesson on what socialist tyranny looks like.

Posted by: Soona at February 10, 2016 01:05 PM (Fmupd)

605 591 No one has ever been elected with 60% negatives.

Nothing makes sense any more. Nobody ever won an election with a huge foreign policy scandal and terrible economy like Obama in 2012. Nobody ever won a state by spending so little like Trump. The rules are all broken, nothing works to predict any longer.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 01:02 PM (39g3+)


I prefer to hold onto what little conventional wisdom I have left to go on. Kind of like "The Jerk" shuffling down the street with a chair and a toy paddle.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2016 01:05 PM (VdICR)

606 I recall that the bathtub at a friend's apartment (there was no shower) in Paris was about three feet one meter long. We referred to it as the Toulouse-Lautrec tub. The 'water heater' was a wall-hung gas-fired gizmo that seemed to fire up and shut down arbitrarily, without any regard for the water temperature.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2016 01:03 PM (oFSUK)


That's fine in Paris because they don't take showers or baths. Why waste the money and space on something useless?

But I bet the perfume closet was yuuuuuge!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 01:05 PM (zc3Db)

607 So, as satisfying at it is to imagine Hill's screeching and sobbing if she loses the nomination - I am kinda hoping she doesn't. I hope she pulls it out by clearly and obviously cheating.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 12:58 PM (u0lmX)

My dream scenarios: 1. Hillary wins by taking the superdelegates and basically crushing the dreams of the advocates. Bernie says "Fuck it" and runs third party. Cruz/Trump or Trump/Cruz ticket go to victory.

B. Hillary wins by taking the superdelegates and basically crushing the dreams of the advocates. Bernie drops out and endorses nobody. Bloomberg gets into the race and drains off RINOs and disaffected Democrats. Trump/Cruz or Cruz/Trump go on to victory.

III. SMOD.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at February 10, 2016 01:05 PM (RD7QR)

608 "think of all the wailing and gnashing of teeth and hysteric caterwauling that will go on among the left."

Joe Klein couldn't wait. He went full caterwaul last night.

There is a bona fide push in the UK to deny Donald Trump entry to the country as a purveyor of "hate speech". (Of course, every radical imam in the Middle East is welcome to waltz on in.)

I do think it would be incredibly funny if they did bar Trump from the country, and Trump, a man well known to notice slights and harbr grudges, were then elected President.

Whereupon the mandarins of Whitehall and Westminster would be compelled to ever so excruciatingly eat an entire murder of crows, trying to tiptoe back into the good graces of the new POTUS. Who among other things would control their nuclear weapons capabilities via the Trident licensing, and who has already talked about killing the F-35 jet, to which their entire naval aviation program is irremediably wedded.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2016 01:06 PM (noWW6)

609 Here's the difference (and feel free to read the data and tell me I am wrong):

Cruz won in Iowa because of the evangelical vote. They are the pathway to victory in that state's caucauses. Did he have broad support from other groups? Doesn't seem to have.

Trump won in NH, with support from all groups. I can understand why he wouldn't necessarily get the evangelical vote.

I simply don't see broad support for Cruz. He may be a skilled lawyer, but he does not have the ability to make his voice heard if the media refuses to cover him. And with talk about the national debt--do you really want a lawyer in charge if the economy tanks? Wouldn't it be nice to have someone that has actually run a successful business? (and no, we are not talking about the Romney sort of business here.)

Posted by: notsothoreau at February 10, 2016 01:06 PM (5HBd1)

610 You keep saying you don't want someone "cutting deals", I'm saying if Cruz just vetoes bills Congress passes, what exactly gets fixed?

------------

I want someone who is willing to risk a governmental shutdown to get his bill passed. I want someone who is willing to act within the Constitution.

Vetoes are a good start.

Appointing judges help. Who do you trust more on that - Cruz or Trump?

Obviously, you eventually have to cut deals. But sometimes you have to walk away from them too. With the federal govenrment, your ultimate leverage is a government shutdown. WOuld Trump ever do that?


Posted by: SH at February 10, 2016 01:06 PM (gmeXX)

611 The "fix" is in and Bernie is a party to it.
Posted by: rickb223
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A beard, to attract the radical Left, by default, into Hillary's camp? My thoughts also. They will fall into line like good little comrades and march down to stuff their ballots in the Hillary box when the general is held.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2016 01:06 PM (oFSUK)

612 At some point I'm going to keep my movie references down to ... five a day. But not today.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2016 01:06 PM (VdICR)

613 I have a lot more confidence in Cruz' ability to pick Supreme Court nominees.



He can pick 'em.

Now. Get them confirmed.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 01:06 PM (Y42RP)

614 " the guy from Texas who went to Harvard and married a person who works for GS"

they met campaigning for Bush in 2000 ... she got the GS gig after they were married, after the Bush aided political career of Ted. GS likes to have their hooks in political people. That doesn't mean they are corrupt ... but they made a lot of money from that job.

Ted went against all subsidies (and phasing out the ethanol fuel standard for something maybe better, over five years, by executive order?). But that was after the conservative world made a big deal about ethanol being the litmus test for conservatives. It seemed like their "line in the sand", so Ted HAD to go along.

But why wasn't the litmus test trade or no citizenship for illegals? idk, but maybe to help push a "true conservative" in Iowa.

Still, I'd rather have the Cuban that argued at SCOTUS and understands high finance, than the Cuban whose big financial accomplishment is to buy a boat.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 10, 2016 01:07 PM (5Gpe2)

615 Evening Calm my eye.

Posted by: eleven at February 10, 2016 01:07 PM (qUNWi)

616 Why do these reporters insist on doing live broadcasts from candidates' town halls. All they do is piss off the people around them who are trying to listen to the speech.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2016 01:07 PM (/tuJf)

617 http://tinyurl.com/jqmyqbc

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February


I hope they nail that kid to the wall.

Posted by: Infidel at February 10, 2016 01:07 PM (cojT9)

618 I simply don't see broad support for Cruz.

That's why we have primaries.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 10, 2016 01:07 PM (rwI+c)

619 Well, Trump has already walked back his vulgar language saying he will act differently as president.

That is known as a 'tell'. When the democrats set the howling mad mobs on him, he'll back down.

Posted by: Guyian Blundfold at February 10, 2016 01:07 PM (98+Sc)

620 During our former life, and as sometimes mentioned, we were stationed in Italy for almost seven years total during two tours.

And I'm not talking, "Living on Base" Stationed.

Small coastal town.
One ship.
NO base housing
A Support Activity the total size of a medium size grocery store.

We lived in the Italian community, in Italian owned homes.

And yes, our American living standard is far and away superior in every respect to living over there.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 10, 2016 01:08 PM (ptqRm)

621 At some point, you have to have someone that works well with others

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 01:02 PM (ccapd)





Isn't the whole point of this election (on both sides apparently) that we don't want such a person? If we did, we would all be voting for Jeb or Ruboto.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 01:08 PM (OrI3J)

622
Happy Ash Wednesday.
Here is a link to some Ash Wednesday/Lenten meditations featuring
Johnny Cash.
http://tinyurl.com/4yfrfdr

Posted by: simplemind at February 10, 2016 01:08 PM (C6xeQ)

623 Movie references are fine just not Star Wars anymore.

Posted by: eleven at February 10, 2016 01:08 PM (qUNWi)

624 This is brilliant.

Trump the Gopfather
https://youtu.be/frAjvaX6GGg

Posted by: @votermom at February 10, 2016 01:09 PM (cbfNE)

625 That's fine in Paris because they don't take showers or baths. Why waste the money and space on something useless?
------

Also, no one, NO ONE, drank the tap water.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2016 01:09 PM (oFSUK)

626 Is there anything else I can wear, this Texas badass look is getting tiresome, man it's hard being phony.

Posted by: Raphael Cruz at February 10, 2016 01:09 PM (SOVQ8)

627 A beard, to attract the radical Left, by default, into Hillary's camp? My thoughts also.



Otherwise, Bernie should be screaming bloody murder after being screwed twice over delegates.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 01:10 PM (Y42RP)

628 But you're making the case as if Cruz is going to be a dictator and can
make large cuts to the government without working with Congress.



You can't "executive order" trillions of dollars of cuts in
government. You might be able to cut a few jobs on some superfluous
gov't agencies, but that's not even a rounding error

=========
What happens if he fires the entire staff of a department and refuses to hire any replacements?

Congress has long-ago mandated and appropriated money for a border fence? You see a fence being built?

The Executive does not have to spend the money even if Congress tells him to spend it--and the Golden Age of Obama is showing he does not have to enforce the law either.


Posted by: RoyalOil at February 10, 2016 01:10 PM (fQ/0p)

629 Since checkers is just dumbed down chess, and Cruz has already mastered chess, I am more than willing to bet he is ready for the general (unless you are arguing only old people should be President).
Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 01:04 PM (OrI3J)

There *is* an age restriction on the office of the presidency. Yes I know he meets that criteria. Just an analogy.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 01:10 PM (xuouz)

630 And with talk about the national debt--do you really want a lawyer in charge if the economy tanks? Wouldn't it be nice to have someone that has actually run a successful business? (and no, we are not talking about the Romney sort of business here.)

----------------

I want someone who knows the Constitution in charge. Who cares if someone has business experience? That likely tells me they will act extra constitutionally. The federal government is not a business. It should not be run like a business. If the economy falls apart, the last person I want in charge is someone who thinks they know how to handle the economy. That person will likely act beyond the powers of the Presidency and lead to more problems.

Posted by: SH at February 10, 2016 01:10 PM (gmeXX)

631 Posted by: Raphael Cruz at February 10, 2016 01:09 PM (SOVQ


Is this supposed to mean something? My probably slips quickly to a solid maybe because of this shit.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 10, 2016 01:10 PM (rwI+c)

632 "The 'water heater' was a wall-hung gas-fired gizmo that seemed to fire
up and shut down arbitrarily, without any regard for the water
temperature."

There is a huge vogue for those tankless units here in the SF Bay Area now, as real estate prices have gone up so dramatically, and people are wedging into smaller and smaller premises. Also, they're perceived as "green" because of not heating water when not needed.

They work great when they work great. Unfortunately they often don't work so great in many cases, as your French experience shows. They're finicky, fiddly, a lot more expensive and require a lot more maintenance than a good old tank heater.

Of course, you can all see where this is going. There will be a federal mandate from Washington, D.C. to force nationwide use of water heaters of this type coming next, and the Vichy GOP will fall all over themselves to hammer it in. Right next to the toilet mandate, the light bulb ban, the ethanol gasoline mandate and the rest of their "small government" initiatives.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2016 01:11 PM (noWW6)

633 >>> TRUMPS-A-LOT!!!!
TRUMPS-A-LOT!!!!
I know it gives the GOPers pause
But in-
TRUMPS-A-LOT!!!!
TRUMPS-A-LOT!!!!
Those are the legal laws
Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2016 10:20 AM (KUa85)

That whole thing is beautimous Naturalfake!

Posted by: LizLem at February 10, 2016 01:11 PM (hvf9s)

634 If GWB danced to a democrat fiddle, it wasn't a matter of brains but willpower. I am confident Cruz has enough of both.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2016 01:11 PM (VdICR)

635 I have to remind myself that it's probably Rubio trolls.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 10, 2016 01:12 PM (rwI+c)

636 The GOPfather. hillarious, and makes me want him in there more.

Posted by: ChocoCheese at February 10, 2016 01:12 PM (OvUux)

637
I keep saying that the solution to these issues is to start our OWN long march through the institutions.

Right at the most basic LOCAL level. Schools, government, etc. If it doesn't begin here, it has no chance of succeeding.

All of us can play a part in this, no matter how insignificant it may seem.

I don't think you can refute that idea.

So maybe we should get started.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 10, 2016 01:12 PM (P/8aq)

638 My dream scenarios: 1. Hillary wins by taking the superdelegates and basically crushing the dreams of the advocates. Bernie says "Fuck it" and runs third party. Cruz/Trump or Trump/Cruz ticket go to victory.

-
Shades of 1860.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 01:12 PM (Nwg0u)

639 Your teeny tiny squeaky voiced man.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2016 01:05 PM (kdS6q)

They don't have the "baritone speaking register" software upgrade available yet.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 01:12 PM (OrI3J)

640 Why does anybody put a camera on Juan Williams?

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at February 10, 2016 01:12 PM (m3Sth)

641 And yes, our American living standard is far and away superior in every respect to living over there.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 10, 2016 01


--------------------


This is true of even Germany, the richest country in the EU. Most people have no idea of the limitations socialism forces onto the population.

Posted by: Soona at February 10, 2016 01:13 PM (Fmupd)

642 Why does anybody put a camera on Juan Williams?


I would, were he falling from a 20 story building, on fire.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 10, 2016 01:13 PM (rwI+c)

643 621 At some point, you have to have someone that works well with others

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 01:02 PM (ccapd)





Isn't the whole point of this election (on both sides apparently) that we don't want such a person? If we did, we would all be voting for Jeb or Ruboto.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 01:08 PM (OrI3J)

____

Jon Boehner and Mitch The Bith work great with Democrats. So does Paul Ryan.

Oh wait....

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 01:14 PM (0LHZx)

644 Margarita DeVille: Hey! Where is Mary Cloggenstein?...

Last seen AFAIK at #409 on the Overnight with classic spew.
acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=361443#c24810273

"...a correctly thinking corner of the country supported the progressive lion of the Senate...."

She misspelled "worm."

Posted by: mindful webworker - archivally at February 10, 2016 01:14 PM (K/p7v)

645 640 Why does anybody put a camera on Juan Williams?

Liberal White Guilt?

Posted by: ChocoCheese at February 10, 2016 01:14 PM (OvUux)

646 >>I simply don't see broad support for Cruz. He may be a skilled lawyer, but he does not have the ability to make his voice heard if the media refuses to cover him. And with talk about the national debt--do you really want a lawyer in charge if the economy tanks? Wouldn't it be nice to have someone that has actually run a successful business? (and no, we are not talking about the Romney sort of business here.)

Actually, I would much rather have someone with Romney's business experience. He made his fortune by taking companies that were failing and turned them around. This usually involved making spending and personnel cuts. And that is exactly what we need in DC.

The next President won't be building condos or golf courses, he will be hopefully be making a lot of cuts to try and keep our economy from imploding.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2016 01:14 PM (/tuJf)

647 That is known as a 'tell'. When the democrats set the howling mad mobs on him, he'll back down.

Meh, he didn't say that because the Democrats or SJWs were complaining, he did it because it was hurting him in Bible belt states and with small town types. He does stuff to win, not to mollify easily offended children.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 01:14 PM (39g3+)

648 638 My dream scenarios: 1. Hillary wins by taking the superdelegates and basically crushing the dreams of the advocates. Bernie says "Fuck it" and runs third party. Cruz/Trump or Trump/Cruz ticket go to victory.

-
Shades of 1860.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 01:12 PM (Nwg0u)

Too bad we don't have a party to replace our new Whigs, the GOP.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at February 10, 2016 01:14 PM (RD7QR)

649 Why I'm sad that crispy dropped out
https://twitter.com/votermom/status/697483779523350528

Posted by: @votermom at February 10, 2016 01:15 PM (cbfNE)

650 beard, to attract the radical Left, by default, into Hillary's camp? My thoughts also. They will fall into line like good little comrades and march down to stuff their ballots in the Hillary box when the general is held.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2016 01:06 PM
............Thanks for bringing up stuffing Hillary's box. I can skip lunch now.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 10, 2016 01:15 PM (btH0m)

651 Also, no one, NO ONE, drank the tap water.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2016 01:09 PM (oFSUK)


Same was true in Israel ... and for good reason. The most disgusting tap water I have ever seen. Of course, Israel suffers from having a low water table (almost non-existent, which is one of the many reasons why the palis just cannot have the West Bank) and being on the coast. When I lived there going out to buy cases of water was a weekly chore - and I hate the idea of bottled water.

I am still amused by all the bottled water that people drink here. Most tap water in America is at least as good as bottled water and much of the tap water is even better.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 01:15 PM (zc3Db)

652 Did someone seriously just advocate for Mitt RMoney?

Y'all have the Mittler Youth here?

Posted by: ChocoCheese at February 10, 2016 01:15 PM (OvUux)

653
The F35 is a bust and always will be in one sense.
The peak in fighter design is the F16. You can't improve on its energy conservation. You might improve the avionics suite/computers, but that little rapier, the F -16,is apex technology. Its like apencil.You aren't going to eclipse that, you might tart it up and make more potential failure points andmake it more expensive.
If they want to improve fighters they have to do something to make a human pilot more capable of withstanding g's. The f -16 can already black out apilot wearing a g suit. F - 35 is supposed to be a one plane fits all. But that will never be better than a dedicated fighter or a dedicated bomber.

Posted by: simplemind at February 10, 2016 01:15 PM (C6xeQ)

654 I keep saying that the solution to these issues is to start our OWN long march through the institutions.

Right at the most basic LOCAL level. Schools, government, etc. If it doesn't begin here, it has no chance of succeeding.

All of us can play a part in this, no matter how insignificant it may seem.

I don't think you can refute that idea.

So maybe we should get started.
Posted by: irongrampa at February 10, 2016 01:12 PM (P/8aq)

I've been saying this to my own parents and family and friends of theirs for years. Only liberals run for office now because being in office means overseeing a sprawling proto-socialist bureaucracy.

Baby boomers don't want to do it because they're ready to retire and it's an uphill battle with a foe who's willing to make it personal, even on the school board level, and you know that.

So what are we gonna do about it?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 01:15 PM (xuouz)

655 "The Executive does not have to spend the money even if Congress tells
him to spend it--and the Golden Age of Obama is showing he does not have
to enforce the law either."

Just as dissent was patriotic until January 20th 2009, and thereafter became baseless racist mutterings, you may be assured that if a Republican is somehow elected this fall, the faithful-execution clause of the Constitution will assume sweeping new importance on January 20th 2017.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2016 01:16 PM (noWW6)

656 G928 I'd settle for dropping the camera on him from twenty stories.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at February 10, 2016 01:16 PM (m3Sth)

657 >> They were so shitty in the Ford era it wasn't hard to
>> improve. But the real Volvos of the 70s/80s, now those
>> were solid cars.

Volvo had bought DAF back in the - late '70s? early '80s? I could google it - and subsequently began transitioning their product line to FWD products owing more to DAF designs than traditional Volvo.

Volvo had a tradition of being fairly tough and durable products, a couple missteps (the 2.7 PRV V6 for instance) aside, very conservative in design and engineering.

The 850s and early S70s/V70s, though, were rather fragile products.

Posted by: JEM at February 10, 2016 01:16 PM (o+SC1)

658 Clearly, it's intended as verboten (or, at least, discouraged) ad hominem - still, calling a commenter here a moron is debatably funny. Or ironic. Or something.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Muldoon/Chique 2016 at February 10, 2016 12:42 PM (K/p7v)


I've been reading 'redbanzai's' posts all morning. Mary Cloggenstein is a better commenter, and I don't like 'her' sock posts at all. That should tell you something.

Posted by: RickZ at February 10, 2016 01:16 PM (Ix+HS)

659 What happens if he fires the entire staff of a department and refuses to hire any replacements?
Posted by: RoyalOil at February 10, 2016 01:10 PM (fQ/0p)

They will impeach and remove him and his stupid hair so fast your head will spin. He may not violate the Constitution as much as you would like and fantasize he will. Obama was not impeached because he is black. End of story. The American people were not going to tolerate the first black president removed from office. Trump is anti-establishment and the Congress will be itching to pull the trigger the first time Trump pulls this shit. It's not fair but it's just reality. If you don't believe this then you need to reevaluate you aspirations for this guy.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 01:16 PM (UnJ7w)

660 This is true of even Germany, the richest country in
the EU. Most people have no idea of the limitations socialism forces
onto the population.Posted by: Soona at February 10, 2016 01:13 PM (Fmupd)
________

Sumptuary laws for the little people.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 10, 2016 01:16 PM (MIKMs)

661 Shades of 1860.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 01:12 PM (Nwg0u)

Yeah...

Awesome...

What a great second term we'd have to look forward to...

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 01:17 PM (xuouz)

662 My dream scenarios: 1. Hillary wins by taking the superdelegates and basically crushing the dreams of the advocates. Bernie says "Fuck it" and runs third party. Cruz/Trump or Trump/Cruz ticket go to victory.

_______

Nah. Bernie and his supporters will fall in line and vote for the "D" no matter what. Socialists are like that. They obey their overlords, and when the overlords say vote Hillary, they will vote Hillary.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 01:17 PM (0LHZx)

663
I have to remind myself that it's probably Rubio trolls.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 10, 2016 01:12 PM (rwI+c)

And Trump trolls... I actually left Breitbart to get away from the shenanigans but Ace is getting his fair share of new nicks who cannot argue anyway but ugly.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 01:18 PM (OrI3J)

664 There is a huge vogue for those tankless units here in the SF Bay Area now, as real estate prices have gone up so dramatically, and people are wedging into smaller and smaller premises. Also, they're perceived as "green" because of not heating water when not needed.


What takes less energy? Getting something hot and occasionally "bumping" it to keep it hot, or going from room temp to hot instantly and keeping it there for the duration?

Tankless heaters require TWO gas lines OR a small nuke plant in the back yard if electrical.
I looked into a tankless heater a couple of years back.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 01:18 PM (Y42RP)

665 We have a local county commissioner, who is also a successful businessman. When we were limited to 3 commissioners, with one other weasel that passes as a conservative, he managed to streamline the process to get a business license here and made it easier for new businesses to start up. He was able to do that because he ran a business and understood the process. He has also cut back on some of the bureaucracy and made it easier for taxpayers to pay their taxes online. Again, this is a guy with a tech business, so he understood how to make these processes work. (Commissioner's name is David Madore).

The local lefties hate his guts. They managed to expand the commissioners to five and got a lefty elected (and a woman that we previously thought was fairly conservative. She's gone to the dark side.) The moral of this story is that business people have to deal with all these rules, regulations and processes every day. If you can get one in office that can change those, you will see the results. That is why I am really opposed to another lawyer for President right now. Lawyers deal in rules and regulations. They don't spend a lot of time thinking about how they affect people. I don't really trust lawyers to get rid of laws or regulations.

Posted by: notsothoreau at February 10, 2016 01:18 PM (5HBd1)

666 I like Trump. He fights.

Posted by: Trump advocate who is not just like Trump at February 10, 2016 01:18 PM (bpn7O)

667 Of course, you can all see where this is going. There will be a federal
mandate from Washington, D.C. to force nationwide use of water heaters
of this type coming next, and the Vichy GOP will fall all over
themselves to hammer it in. Right next to the toilet mandate, the light
bulb ban, the ethanol gasoline mandate and the rest of their "small
government" initiatives.>>>

The march to tell you what to can use to heat your water has already begun.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/z3k6vjk

http://preview.tinyurl.com/gpbhkaz

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 10, 2016 01:19 PM (XtAzU)

668 Trump the Gopfather

-
They're just saying that because he's not afraid to go to the mattresses.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 01:19 PM (Nwg0u)

669 Trump has my vote if
1: He wins the GOP nomination
2: Hillary wins the Dem nomination
3: During any debate between the two, Trump refers to hillary as some verion of "Cheese Tits"

Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at February 10, 2016 01:19 PM (wKcQA)

670 And yes, our American living standard is far and away superior in every respect to living over there.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 10, 2016 01



--------------------



This is true of even Germany, the richest country in the EU. Most
people have no idea of the limitations socialism forces onto the
population.

Posted by: Soona at February 10, 2016 01:13 PM


Many moons ago I spent a summer working in The Hague. One of the very first thing my American boss (whose politics I have no idea about) told me was that if I so much as got a headache, I should hop a plane back here rather than submit myself to an encounter with the incompetent health care system. This, in the heart of we-should-totes-do-it-here socialized medicine...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 10, 2016 01:19 PM (bzd8I)

671
They will impeach and remove him and his stupid hair so fast your head will spin. He may not violate the Constitution as much as you would like and fantasize he will. Obama was not impeached because he is black. End of story
Ha Ha. Two can play that game. So you are saying they'd impeach Trump to make Ted Cruz president or vice versa? Yeaahhhh. . .

Posted by: simplemind at February 10, 2016 01:20 PM (C6xeQ)

672 They were so shitty in the Ford era it wasn't hard to improve. But the real Volvos of the 70s/80s, now those were solid cars. I had a couple in the family growing up and they were tanks that never broke down. The 240s and 740s, the true Volvos before they decided to fuck with a winning formula and nearly destroyed the brand.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 01:02 PM (0LHZx)


I used to own a 242DL back in theday. Very solid car, very reliable, but when we had to get it worked on, it wasn't at all cheap.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 01:20 PM (maOV6)

673 I recall that the bathtub at a friend's apartment (there was no shower) in Paris was about three feet one meter long. We referred to it as the Toulouse-Lautrec tub. The 'water heater' was a wall-hung gas-fired gizmo that seemed to fire up and shut down arbitrarily, without any regard for the water temperature.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2016 01:03 PM (oFSUK)

I am now reading a book, "On Becoming An American" that I picked up at an estate sale about a month. The author was born a French count, Sanche de Gramont. He found life as a French aristocrat stultifying dull and narrow. He emigrated here in the 1970's with his American wife, became a citizen, and changed his name to Ted Morgan (an anagram of deGramont).

His father was the son of his grandfather's third wife. His grandfather's second wife was a Rothschild so those kids got all the moola. He had a title but no money. So when he came to America, he and his wife furnished their place with Goodwill furniture. And he said most Europeans simply have no idea how well you can live in the US with stuff other people throw away.

He also said he was startled by Americans who were willing to loan friends the use of their cars. He wrote that cars are so precious in France, a Frenchman would rather loan you his wife.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 01:20 PM (u0lmX)

674 The 850s and early S70s/V70s, though, were rather fragile products.
Posted by: JEM at February 10, 2016 01:16 PM (o+SC1)

_____

Yep that's when it all started turning to shit....the 850. They should have stuck with the 240 and 740.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 01:21 PM (0LHZx)

675 It's like the water conservation shit during the SB. The sewers are based on a minimum flow. When you get below that, the water department actually starts dumping watermain water straight into the sewer to make up the difference.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 10, 2016 01:21 PM (rwI+c)

676 TRUMPS-A-LOT!!!!

Posted by: naturalfake


Trumps a Lot

Do you like Trumps a lot?
(Yes, I like Trumps a lot.)
Trumps a lot, Trumps a lot.
(You gotta like Trumps a lot.)
Really like Trumps a lot.
(You gotta like Trumps a lot.)
Trumps a lot, Trumps a lot.
(You gotta like Trumps a lot.)

Down in the voting booth,
Just we boys,
Beatin' down the voting booth
With all that noise,

Singin' do you like Trumps a lot?
(You gotta like Trumps a lot.)
Trumps a lot, Trumps a lot.
(You gotta like Trumps a lot.

He's big and round,
He's all around.
He's big and round,
He's all around.

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2016 01:21 PM (jBuUi)

677 Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 01:18 PM (Y42RP)

The biggest advantage of tankless water heaters is that you never run out of hot water. That's worth the expense if you have an active household and the money to spend.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 01:21 PM (zc3Db)

678 Ooops -- unbold!

Works better that way anyway.

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2016 01:21 PM (jBuUi)

679 The "fix" is in and Bernie is a party to it.
Posted by: rickb223
--------------
Yep. If he were a serious contender, he would go after her on the e-mails and her corruption. He would also hit her hard for being a tool of Wall Street. He would attack the Clinton Slush Fund.

He's there for ego fun and to move the window to the left --- and, in typical Clinton triangulation, to convince the LIVs that Hillary is a "moderate" (by comparison.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 10, 2016 01:22 PM (T/5A0)

680 Perfect establishment pedigree.

Posted by: ChocoCheese

I rather think that calling McConnell a liar on the senate floor is the perfect fuck the establishment pedigree.

Posted by: Cheri at February 10, 2016 01:22 PM (oiNtH)

681 I am still amused by all the bottled water that people drink here. Most tap water in America is at least as good as bottled water and much of the tap water is even better.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair



One tell? When you can taste the chlorine.
It's there hiding something.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 01:22 PM (Y42RP)

682 So Christie's probably going to go for Jeb, right? Ugh. I have a hard time imagining him endorsing Trump, Cruz, or Rubio. And everyone knows Kasich isn't viable outside of New Hampshire... not that Bush is viable outside of his own bubble.

Posted by: Naes at February 10, 2016 01:23 PM (Ypc8j)

683 Free evening calm for all Amerikans!

Posted by: Colonel Bernie Sanders at February 10, 2016 01:23 PM (La6jE)

684 And Trump trolls... I actually left Breitbart to get away from the shenanigans but Ace is getting his fair share of new nicks who cannot argue anyway but ugly.

I'm almost certain that the money Trump is spending in this campaign is to buy Russian trolls to fill the internet.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 01:23 PM (39g3+)

685 >>I am still amused by all the bottled water that people drink here. Most tap water in America is at least as good as bottled water and much of the tap water is even better.

If you've never seen it, check out Penn and Teller's Bullshit episode on the bottled water industry. Total scam.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2016 01:24 PM (/tuJf)

686 The biggest advantage of tankless water heaters is that you never run out of hot water. That's worth the expense if you have an active household and the money to spend.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 01:21 PM (zc3Db)

---

Probably cheaper to get a bigger tank.

Posted by: @votermom at February 10, 2016 01:24 PM (cbfNE)

687 I've been reading 'redbanzai's' posts all morning.
Mary Cloggenstein is a better commenter, and I don't like 'her' sock
posts at all. That should tell you something.

Posted by: RickZ at February 10, 2016 01:16 PM (Ix+HS)

RickZ... Since sock subtlety did not work, I will be more direct.
Knock. It. Off. You are not funny. You are not going to drive me away. And you peeing in the pool is making this a less pleasant playground for all of the actual Morons.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 01:24 PM (OrI3J)

688 Redbanzai, when you refer to Trump supporters as dicks, like you've been doing, it's hard to feel much sympathy for your hurt feelings.

Posted by: Hop on Board at February 10, 2016 01:24 PM (SOVQ8)

689 666 I like Trump. He fights.
Posted by: Trump advocate who is not just like Trump at February 10, 2016 01:18 PM (bpn7O)


And by the Mark of the Beast ye shall know him.
*lights candles*
*places ouji board*
*slaughters goat*

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 10, 2016 01:24 PM (VdICR)

690 I rather think that calling McConnell a liar on the senate floor is the perfect fuck the establishment pedigree.
Posted by: Cheri at February 10, 2016 01:22 PM (oiNtH)

It's a trick don't you see!!! He can't make deals!!

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 01:24 PM (UnJ7w)

691 Saw the sidebar post about Intel chief dissing Iran and thought "Hey, a corporate leader puts US security over profits!" Then it turns out it's that Clapper guy.

Color me gullible. That's the crayon next to maroon in the box of 64.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at February 10, 2016 01:25 PM (FtrY1)

692 Lawyers deal in rules and regulations. They don't spend a lot of time thinking about how they affect people. I don't really trust lawyers to get rid of laws or regulations.
Posted by: notsothoreau at February 10, 2016 01:18 PM (5HBd1)


In fact, for a lawyer to be getting rid of rules and regulations, he'd be acting against his own interests. Lawyers *love* complicated systems of regulations because then there is more need for their services where only they know how to navigate the bureaucratic labyrinth of rules and laws.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 01:25 PM (maOV6)

693 Posted by: Hop on Board

In fairness, you pretty much are a dick.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 10, 2016 01:25 PM (rwI+c)

694 If the elite political thinkers believe that the New Hampshire voters are so dumb, because they voted for Donald, then doesn't it follow that they are not smart enough to manage the other challenges that a capitalist democracy presents them with? Maybe we do need socialism for the unsophisticated population of average red-blooded angry people. Or is it that the "real" intellectuals just don't want Trump, because they just don't want him because they just don't ... ah-ha!

Posted by: goon at February 10, 2016 01:25 PM (gy5kE)

695 "The biggest advantage of tankless water heaters is that you never run out of hot water."

Someone I met around here who installed a tankless then realized with horror that... they also have teenagers. Three hour showers.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2016 01:25 PM (noWW6)

696 >>>The poorest state in the US - Mississippi - have a higher GDP per capita than Great Britain.

I'll take London over Jackson, any day.

Posted by: Trump advocate who is not just like Trump at February 10, 2016 01:26 PM (bpn7O)

697 ...The Executive does not have to spend the money even if Congress tells him to spend it...

The Impoundment Control Act of 1974 provides that the president may propose rescission of specific funds, but that rescission must be approved by both the House of Representatives and Senate within 45 days. In effect, the requirement removed the impoundment power, since Congress is not required to vote on the rescission and, in fact, has ignored the vast majority of presidential requests.

Posted by: scorecard at February 10, 2016 01:26 PM (HSAmh)

698 I want someone who knows the Constitution in charge. Who cares if someone has business experience? That likely tells me they will act extra constitutionally. The federal government is not a business. It should not be run like a business. If the economy falls apart, the last person I want in charge is someone who thinks they know how to handle the economy. That person will likely act beyond the powers of the Presidency and lead to more problems.
Posted by: SH at February 10, 2016 01:10 PM (gmeXX)

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I don't know, most upper management people I know are meticulous about following the law.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 10, 2016 01:27 PM (LXJ1e)

699 I'll take London over Jackson, any day.

Well yeah, and I'll take Paris over ... er, I'll take Berlin over Dearborn.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 10, 2016 01:27 PM (rwI+c)

700 Gee, I hope we get more Trump & Cruz threads today so this shit can go on until dinnertime!

Posted by: Chi at February 10, 2016 01:27 PM (OUpHg)

701 Obama breaks the law and isn't called on it. Same as any other Democrat.

Posted by: scorecard at February 10, 2016 01:27 PM (HSAmh)

702 Limbaugh has just pointed out that even though Bernie got 60% of the votes in NH, he came away with two fewer delegates than Hillary.

They must have tossed a coin. A Democrat coin. I keep wondering if Bernie is going to explode in a tirade against the DNC and Hillary. Nah. It's too much to hope for.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 10, 2016 12:58 PM (oFSUK)




I really think that Comrade Bernie was some stooge the Dems put up to make it look like it would be a real primary for Hillary. They had no idea he would get anywhere near this level of support. He could win every primary outright and they'll still give the nomination to Hillary.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 10, 2016 01:27 PM (493sH)

703 696 >>>The poorest state in the US - Mississippi - have a higher GDP per capita than Great Britain.

I'll take London over Jackson, any day.
Posted by: Trump advocate who is not just like Trump at February 10, 2016 01:26 PM (bpn7O)

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I'll take apples to bananas comparisons for $800 Alex....

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 01:28 PM (0LHZx)

704 696 >>>The poorest state in the US - Mississippi - have a higher GDP per capita than Great Britain.

I'll take London over Jackson, any day.
Posted by: Trump advocate who is not just like Trump at February 10, 2016 01:26 PM (bpn7O)

Culturally? Sure. It's one of the world's great cities. Economically? You'd better make a damn good living or else be willing to live in a closet.

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at February 10, 2016 01:28 PM (RD7QR)

705 Someone I met around here who installed a tankless then realized with horror that... they also have teenagers. Three hour showers.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2016 01:25 PM (noWW6)




As I said, "if you have the money to spend". Tankless heaters are really luxury items and recipes for yuuuuuge water use, which is just dandy in my view.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 01:28 PM (zc3Db)

706 I sense... a new thread coming soon.

I smell... Milady preparing lunch.

I think... I'll see you all later.

Posted by: mindful webworker - I found... Jesus at February 10, 2016 01:28 PM (K/p7v)

707 673 I recall that the bathtub at a friend's apartment (there was no shower) in Paris was about three feet one meter long. We referred to it as the Toulouse-Lautrec tub. The 'water heater' was a wall-hung gas-fired gizmo that seemed to fire up and shut down arbitrarily, without any regard for the water temperature.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc


I had a similar experience.

I once had a "pen pal" (pre-Internet) who lived in the Paris suburbs. At one point she came on a vacation to America with her boyfriend, and stayed in my college-student apartment with me, of which I was terribly ashamed and apologetic because it was so small. But they looked around and marveled at how great it was. I thought they were just being overly polite, while in private complaining about how dinky and sparsely appointment my place was.

About a year later, I returned the favor and visited them in their apartment in the Paris suburb. And it suddenly hit me: their amazement and compliments had been sincere!

Their place was even smaller, and even worse had one of those 2-quart water heaters on the wall which barely made enough hot water to wash maybe five dishes because running out. Showers had to be limited to 20 seconds. Even more crazily, to operate the water heater, you had to put coins in it, like a vending machine! (Which the landlord later emptied and kept.) Bathtub? Ha! No tub. Beds were cot-sized. It was like a cell designed to drive people crazy with claustrophobia.

Posted by: zombie at February 10, 2016 01:29 PM (jBuUi)

708 If you've never seen it, check out Penn and Teller's Bullshit episode on the bottled water industry. Total scam.



P & T need to drink my tap water.
1/2 artesian well water mixed with 1/2 Dallas city water roughly.
You can tell when we are more on well water. The chlorine smell literally assaults you. Let alone the taste.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 01:29 PM (Y42RP)

709 People who drink bottled water get kinda pissy when you tell them you drink from that tap.

Posted by: eleven at February 10, 2016 01:29 PM (qUNWi)

710 He also said he was startled by Americans who were
willing to loan friends the use of their cars. He wrote that cars are
so precious in France, a Frenchman would rather loan you his wife.



Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 01:20 PM (u0lmX)

Yikes! I have had a car that I owned and paid for since I was 16 (ok they were mostly beaters). It is hard to imagine a society where personal freedom to travel would be so limited to public transportation.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 01:29 PM (OrI3J)

711 He also said he was startled by Americans who were willing to loan friends the use of their cars. He wrote that cars are so precious in France, a Frenchman would rather loan you his wife.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 01


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Heh. One of the first things I learned living in Germany is that in no way will one diss anyone's car.

Posted by: Soona at February 10, 2016 01:29 PM (Fmupd)

712 And this piece on Cruz from the NY Times:

http://nyti.ms/1TcTm6z

Posted by: notsothoreau at February 10, 2016 01:29 PM (5HBd1)

713 redbanzai, don't let the clone warriors get to you. If you lose your cool, they win.

And they're probably not even Trump supporters. I firmly believe a large segment of the "racist" "alt-right" (fuck that term, racism isn't conservative, it's just racist) is astro-turfed bullshit to discredit the right. You'll see the NYT mention a single nasty comment from a single blog post about Trump as if it's something the man himself said. It's horseshit.

I'm a Trump supporter. Because the man is SMOD with a chance of showers. Budget slashing showers. And I don't go in for that shit.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 01:29 PM (xuouz)

714 Why Grump928, for having a different opinion?

Posted by: Hop on Board at February 10, 2016 01:29 PM (SOVQ8)

715 700

Every thread for the last month or so has been this. The only exceptions are when everyone piles on Moo for a comment about social issues.

Posted by: joe at February 10, 2016 01:29 PM (KUaJL)

716 Be prepared. I downed a whole fifth of contrarian this morning.

Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at February 10, 2016 01:30 PM (La6jE)

717 Why Grump928, for having a different opinion?

No, because you're a dick.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 10, 2016 01:30 PM (rwI+c)

718 Denmark has Nina Agdal. That's enough.

Posted by: MTF at February 10, 2016 01:32 PM (TxJGV)

719
Someone I met around here who installed a tankless then realized with horror that... they also have teenagers. Three hour showers.

Yes. Showering had a built in self limitation if your hot water tank runs out. With endless hot water, between the I phones and computer games, you will never speak to your teens againunless they get married or turn 30.
Second look at tankless?

Posted by: simplemind at February 10, 2016 01:32 PM (C6xeQ)

720 As I said, "if you have the money to spend". Tankless heaters are really luxury items and recipes for yuuuuuge water use, which is just dandy in my view.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 01:28 PM (zc3Db)

Residential use maybe. We put one in here at the restaurant with the promise of unlimited hot water. The thing couldn't keep up through all the volume. I called the plumber a week later and had him remove the pos. Went back to the boiler and the scorching hot water. Can't clean dishes with luke warm water.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 01:32 PM (UnJ7w)

721 699 Berlin or Dearborn,
Is there a real difference?

The trends don't favor Berlin

Posted by: rd at February 10, 2016 01:32 PM (v0YLX)

722 You know who loathes Donald Trump and Donald Trump supporter more than anyone on this thread (that's a mighty high hurdle there)?

Joe Klein of TIME MAGAZINE. Trump voter are a "threat to this country" and they're idiots, too.

Newsbusters has more : LINK: http://preview.tinyurl.com/gmn46dy


The silver lining is that Klein hates Trump voters so much, he has a kind word to say about Jeb Bush. Now how's that for climate change?

Posted by: mrp at February 10, 2016 01:32 PM (JBggj)

723 >>P & T need to drink my tap water.
1/2 artesian well water mixed with 1/2 Dallas city water roughly.
You can tell when we are more on well water. The chlorine smell literally assaults you. Let alone the taste.

Oh I'm sure there are exceptions to every rule but it was a pretty interesting episode. They did things like go to a fancy French restaurant and filled all the water glasses from an outdoor tap with a garden hose. Nobody could tell.

And they showed the Dasani bottling plant which amounted to filling plastic bottles from a tap in Atlanta.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2016 01:32 PM (/tuJf)

724 He could win every primary outright and they'll still give the nomination to Hillary.



So far, they have! Bernie has won twice, *cough, cough, 90 missing precincts*, yet Hillz is winning.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 01:32 PM (Y42RP)

725 I have a tanked water heater and the sucker never runs cold. I will drop down to a tolerable lukish, but never all the way to unendurable.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 10, 2016 01:33 PM (rwI+c)

726 Good comeback Grump, deep stuff!

Posted by: Hop on Board at February 10, 2016 01:33 PM (SOVQ8)

727 In fairness, you pretty much are a dick.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 10, 2016 01:25 PM (rwI+c)

SNORT... ok I was about to post that he should stop being a Richard if he did not want to be called a Richard.
But you covered it better so Thanks:-)

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 01:33 PM (OrI3J)

728 Hmmm...

I sense another "big thread" happening.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 01:33 PM (maOV6)

729 709
People who drink bottled water get kinda pissy when you tell them you drink from that tap.

It's a luxury item like Whole Foods, non-GMO, gluten free, free-range, blah, blah, blah. It's the sort of middle class people who won't set foot in Wal-Mart and call Target "Tarjay." It's just conspicuous consumption.

Posted by: Naes at February 10, 2016 01:33 PM (Ypc8j)

730 >>>The poorest state in the US - Mississippi - have a higher GDP per capita than Great Britain.



I'll take London over Jackson, any day.
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I don't know. There's not quite as much chance of random decapitation in Jackson.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, apparently also non-voting democrat at February 10, 2016 01:33 PM (ZbV+0)

731
There will be a federal mandate from Washington, D.C. to force nationwide use of water heaters of this type coming next, and the Vichy GOP will fall all over themselves to hammer it in.
Posted by: torquewrench



On a recent Ask This Old House they covered the new water heater regs coming on-line -- thanks Dubya! Because of new venting regs and such, you're effectivly not going to be able to replace your old heater. You're going to have to do a new install. And one you bite that apple, tankless or POU becomes an option.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2016 01:34 PM (kdS6q)

732 Good comeback Grump, deep stuff!

Meh, all the effort you're worth little shitweasel.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 10, 2016 01:34 PM (rwI+c)

733 >>I sense another "big thread" happening.


"Deadpool" movie review!?

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2016 01:35 PM (NOIQH)

734 ...I'll take London over Jackson, any day...

If you are not wealthy and don't have bodyguards then London is a place to visit not live.

Posted by: scorecard at February 10, 2016 01:35 PM (HSAmh)

735 We started using bottled water because ours is so hard. Have to replace faucets about every five years and coffee machines die monthly. I buy the generic stuff from my grocery store (local bottler) because it is easier than using the Britta filters.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 10, 2016 01:36 PM (MIKMs)

736 Busting out shitweasel, you learn that at the playground today?

Posted by: Hop on Board at February 10, 2016 01:36 PM (SOVQ8)

737 Tankless heaters can not heat water up if it is flowing at a high rate, unless the heater is HUGE.

I want one for the bath at the end of the house, so I don't have to wait two minutes for warm water when I wash my hands.

Posted by: rd at February 10, 2016 01:36 PM (v0YLX)

738
Understanding New Water-Heater Regulations

This Old House plumbing and heating expert Richard Trethewey explains how new energy-saving regulations affect today's water heaters

http://www.thisoldhouse.com/toh/video/0,,20956386,00.html

Key points:

1. Small-capacity gas-fired water heaters, in the 30-gallon to 50-gallon range, must now have at least 2 inches of insulation on the sidewalls of the tank and 2 to 4 inches at the top of the tank.

2. Gas-fired water heaters with 55-gallon or larger tanks can no longer be vented into a chimney.

3. Uhhh - I forget the third one.

4. New condensing water heaters must be connected to a PVC vent and direct-vented to the outdoors.

5. The new electric-powered water heaters with 55-gallon and larger tanks will be hybrid heat pumps that use 50 percent less energy but are much larger and taller than previous units.

6. The new regulations don't affect on-demand tankless water heaters.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2016 01:37 PM (kdS6q)

739 What takes less energy? Getting something hot and occasionally "bumping" it to keep it hot, or going from room temp to hot instantly and keeping it there for the duration?


Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 01:18 PM (Y42RP)

The tankless is more efficient. The "bumping" to keep the water hot in a tank water heater is the loss of energy from the water that you have to keep hot.

However they now make heat pump water heaters, they may be more efficient than tankless, don't know. It'd be nice if you could have a refrigerator/water heater combo that would take the heat energy from the refrigerated space and put in the water.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 10, 2016 01:37 PM (LXJ1e)

740 We call getting left behind on a thread just after commenting as being "willowed".

We need a name for commenting on a dead thread without realizing it.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 10, 2016 01:37 PM (Xo1Rt)

741 We need a name for commenting on a dead thread without realizing it.


Necrothreading.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 10, 2016 01:38 PM (rwI+c)

742 Damn, is ace cheating on us on Twitter again?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 10, 2016 01:38 PM (Wckf4)

743 That is why I am really opposed to another lawyer for President right now. Lawyers deal in rules and regulations. They don't spend a lot of time thinking about how they affect people. I don't really trust lawyers to get rid of laws or regulations.

Posted by: notsothoreau at February 10, 2016 01:18 PM (5HBd1)


I'm tired of lawyers being president, too. No one in government understands business, except to tax the hell out of them. When was the last time the US had an honest to gawd businessman in the White House? And, please, don't mention GWBush, he was a pol, too, even though not a lawyer.

Posted by: RickZ at February 10, 2016 01:38 PM (Ix+HS)

744 lol Hop on Board with the scathing commentary.

"Learn that on the playground? It's just a prank bro! Don't get mad!"

What a rapier wit.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 01:38 PM (xuouz)

745 they showed the Dasani bottling plant which amounted to filling plastic bottles from a tap in Atlanta

Aquafina is the same thing from a plant in Ayer, MA

Posted by: cool breeze at February 10, 2016 01:39 PM (ckvus)

746 Posted by: Hop on Board at February 10, 2016 01:36 PM (SOVQ

Knock it off. Grump's been a long time poster and good guy. Maybe Mediate or Breitbart's more your speed. I'm all for spirited debate but cut the crap.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 01:39 PM (UnJ7w)

747
I want one for the bath at the end of the house, so I don't have to wait two minutes for warm water when I wash my hands.
Posted by: rd



I like the idea of the Point of Use units. Just don't know how the numbers work out.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2016 01:39 PM (kdS6q)

748 Guys. Don't respond to this clown. He'll go back to beating off to anime if we ignore him.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 01:39 PM (xuouz)

749 GWHBush was a business man.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 10, 2016 01:39 PM (rwI+c)

750 I don't know. There's not quite as much chance of random decapitation in Jackson.
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, apparently also non-voting democrat at February 10, 2016 01:33 PM (ZbV+0)

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Obama is working on that.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 10, 2016 01:39 PM (LXJ1e)

751 Lots of transfer losses and not very efficient.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 10, 2016 01:39 PM (Xo1Rt)

752 5. The new electric-powered water heaters with 55-gallon and larger
tanks will be hybrid heat pumps that use 50 percent less energy but are
much larger and taller than previous units.>>>

This is the reg that killed off my coops off peak water heater program.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 10, 2016 01:40 PM (XtAzU)

753 I just had a waking nightmare. Scenario:

Despite a 60% to 38% margin of victory over the corrupt harridan, Bernie Sanders got two less NH delegates than Hillary.

If he doesn't start going after her on her nonexistent foreign policy at state, the ongoing FBI investigation into her security violations and probable treason, and the travesty of democracy that is the democratic race thus far, it will start to look like he is a stoolie making her look moderate and clearing out the rest of the field for her.

If the ticket is Clinton/Sanders then the above is a certainty. And that could be very. Very. Bad.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 01:40 PM (xuouz)

754 er GHW Bush.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 10, 2016 01:40 PM (rwI+c)

755 You've got to give credit to Bernie for two things. One, he's giving Cankles fits, and two:

did anybody see him shooting hoops last night? It must really piss Obama off that a white guy, a Brooklyn Jew who is about 160 years old, is far better at sinking 'em than Barry is.

Maybe that is why Barry invited him to the WH. The old coot gave him a basketball throwing lesson.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 01:40 PM (u0lmX)

756 729 709
People who drink bottled water get kinda pissy when you tell them you drink from that tap.

It's a luxury item like Whole Foods, non-GMO, gluten free, free-range, blah, blah, blah. It's the sort of middle class people who won't set foot in Wal-Mart and call Target "Tarjay." It's just conspicuous


The water where I work is not drinkable. The company supplies water coolers and bottled water.

Posted by: rd at February 10, 2016 01:41 PM (v0YLX)

757
Anyone else watch the TV series Fortitude?
Two episodes in and it seems interesting, but I am wary of being suckered by leftist cant. Its set somewhere above the artic circle scandi ville.

Posted by: simplemind at February 10, 2016 01:41 PM (C6xeQ)

758 >>>Also, no one, NO ONE, drank the tap water.

I drink tap water when in Paris. It tastes just fine and has never made me sick.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 10, 2016 01:42 PM (bpn7O)

759 Arrg. gots to go fight with my network team to see why the new VM can't see past the core switch. With apologies to any network engineers present but, those guy's first impulse is to deny it's their problem.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 10, 2016 01:42 PM (rwI+c)

760 How did Sanders do among blacks in New Hampshire? Small sample size I know.

Posted by: Naes at February 10, 2016 01:43 PM (Ypc8j)

761 ...filling plastic bottles from a tap...

Don't drink if you see something floating in your bottle or settled on the bottom. I would consider it reckless if they didn't use a crude filter to at least remove small rocks. The significant thing about bottled water is that a (bottled water) company doesn't have sovereign immunity granted to it.

Posted by: scorecard at February 10, 2016 01:43 PM (j2xmV)

762 The water where I work is not drinkable. The company supplies water coolers and bottled water.
Posted by: rd at February 10, 2016 01:41 PM (v0YLX)

Our water is pretty lousy. We refer to it as the west Texas chlorine bouquet.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 01:43 PM (UnJ7w)

763
If the ticket is Clinton/Sanders then the above is a certainty. And that could be very. Very. Bad.

Yes. Defining new parameters of "Very. Bad." Since impeaching Hillary to place Bernie in the oval office is horrifying indeed. Or vice versa.

Posted by: simplemind at February 10, 2016 01:44 PM (C6xeQ)

764 I firmly believe a large segment of the "racist" "alt-right" (fuck that term, racism isn't conservative, it's just racist) is astro-turfed bullshit to discredit the right.

I'm certain some of them are, at least on social media. You can usualy tell by the litany of hot button right wing stuff in their twitter profile and how they never actually talk about how great Trump is, always how lousy every other GOP candidate is, often using somewhat veiled racist statements. The arguments are often just idiotic and self-defeating.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 01:44 PM (39g3+)

765
"Deadpool" movie review!?
Posted by: Lizzy
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Doesn't hit theaters until Friday, I thought.

Posted by: Chi at February 10, 2016 01:44 PM (OUpHg)

766 I'm a Trump supporter. Because the man is SMOD with a
chance of showers. Budget slashing showers. And I don't go in for that
shit.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 01:29 PM (xuouz)

I know there are good and reasonable Trump supporters. We may not agree but we at least share the same facts in coming to our differing conclusions.


As for me losing my cool... I haven't (there would be banning level cursing involved if I had but neither am I going to take stalkerish personal abuse.

Thanks though and I look forward to many future spirited but respectful discussions on the relative merits of Trump v Cruz :-P

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 01:44 PM (OrI3J)

767 I drink tap water when in Paris. It tastes just fine and has never made me sick.
Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 10, 2016 01:42 PM (bpn7O)

Me too. Compared to the water we have it was like softened water in the shower and RO water when drinking.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 01:44 PM (UnJ7w)

768 I drink the tap water here, but I've gotten used to putting the flavored drops in the water. If I don't have any, I'll use lemon juice.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 01:45 PM (u0lmX)

769 >>Anyone else watch the TV series Fortitude?

Yes, almost done w/the first season. Not particularly Leftist, just...messy, I guess. Damaged people attracted to the isolation of a faraway place dealing with...issues. (trying to to spoil)

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2016 01:45 PM (NOIQH)

770 The tankless is more efficient. The "bumping" to keep the water hot in a tank water heater is the loss of energy from the water that you have to keep hot.

____________

If you have natural gas, it's a moot point. You're talking about like $20 in annual savings on your gas bill with tankless

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 01:45 PM (ccapd)

771 Yeah, the Texas tap water is.... interesting. Oddly enough the new house market is still rolling, even with O&G being down.

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at February 10, 2016 01:45 PM (NHQQx)

772 I like This Old House but those guys come off as toadies for the EPA.

Posted by: eleven at February 10, 2016 01:45 PM (qUNWi)

773 I drink tap water, but its run through a filter pitcher so its sparkling clean. Very tasty.

The water here in Oregon, particularly the valley here, is notoriously clean and extremely high quality.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 01:45 PM (39g3+)

774 One thing that can help with a long run of hot water is insulate the piping. Even passing through a room temp room will cool the piping and all that piping has to be reheated every time the water travels.

Plus it acts as a cooling fin to the water in the heater.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 10, 2016 01:46 PM (Xo1Rt)

775
Yes, almost done w/the first season. Not particularly Leftist, just...messy, I guess. Damaged people attracted to the isolation of a faraway place dealing with...issues. (trying to to spoil)

THanks I'll stick with it. I like the guy who plays the americanDCI. I forget his name.

Posted by: simplemind at February 10, 2016 01:46 PM (C6xeQ)

776 Rock over London, Rock on, Chicago.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 10, 2016 01:47 PM (GdFQh)

777 >>THanks I'll stick with it. I like the guy who plays the americanDCI. I forget his name.


Stanley Tucci. He is excellent in this role.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2016 01:47 PM (NOIQH)

778 Oddly enough the new house market is still rolling, even with O&G being down.
Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at February 10, 2016 01:45 PM (NHQQx)

For the price of a modest house here, I can drive to 5 hours and buy a giant beautiful home in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area. It's amazing.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 01:47 PM (UnJ7w)

779 How did Sanders do among blacks in New Hampshire? Small sample size I know.
Posted by: Naes at February 10, 2016 01:43 PM (Ypc8j)

Well, totally anecdotal, but in the polling I did

decisiondeskhq.com
decisiondeskhq.com
decisiondeskhq.com

I surveyed three blacks and one voted bernie, the other two clinton.

If that's representative... mmmmmmm. Shrillary tears.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 01:47 PM (xuouz)

780 You're talking about like $20 in annual savings on your gas bill with tankless

Yeah the real advantage of tankless is if you have several people in a row taking a shower in the morning... or want to spend a long time in a shower doing stuff other than showering

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 01:48 PM (39g3+)

781 That tree on the right? That's where we found the body, or at least part of the body. It had been lodged under those tree roots. We would never had found it but for the smell. Even though parts were missing and it had bite marks all over it, we positively id'd it was Bernie.

Posted by: Eromero at February 10, 2016 01:48 PM (zLDYs)

782 If you have natural gas, it's a moot point. You're talking about like $20 in annual savings on your gas bill with tankless

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 01:45 PM (ccapd)

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I can agree with that.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 10, 2016 01:48 PM (LXJ1e)

783 I like This Old House but those guys come off as toadies for the EPA.
Posted by: eleven at February 10, 2016 01:45 PM (qUNWi)

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Well... all us hammer swingers are now.

At my last EPA audit, I asked my auditor why "I" have to pay for Lead Paint procedures and they let Valspar, Glidden, Ben Moore etc TOTALLY of the hook.

He was NOT amused.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 01:48 PM (8XRCm)

784 "Deadpool" movie review!?

Posted by: Lizzy

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Doesn't hit theaters until Friday, I thought.

Posted by: Chi at February 10, 2016 01:44 PM (OUpHg)

It will hit on the 12th... Sadly we will not be seeing it until Sunday cause son2 has to work til midnight on Friday and Saturday.

How ya doing, Chi:-) I woke up to a dusting of snow this morning. Did you get any down your way?

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 01:48 PM (OrI3J)

785 763
If the ticket is Clinton/Sanders then the above is a certainty.

Oh, crap.

Now there's a thought to cause nightmares.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 01:48 PM (u0lmX)

786 "If the ticket is Clinton/Sanders"

An old honky on both halves of the ticket won't exactly be galvanizing the urban yoof to rush to the polls.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2016 01:48 PM (noWW6)

787 "Deadpool" movie review!?

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2016 01:35 PM (NOIQH)


No, this one. Ace was up all night trashing 'Spectre' on Twitter. We'll break 1200 on this thread easily, and then the boss will give us a 7,000 word movie review later today, probably around 4 or 5pm.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 01:48 PM (maOV6)

788 Someone I met around here who installed a tankless
then realized with horror that... they also have teenagers. Three hour
showers.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2016 01:25 PM
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I think that was me, torque!

But a couple of morons put me some knowledge about just cutting it off at the source and that solved our problem. (Thank you guys!)

Also, should mention that our gas bill went down $18.00 and our electric bill went up $7.00. Can't guarantee that it had to do with the tankless water heater or the gas company lowering prices/electric company raising prices.

Regardless, we are very happy with it!

Posted by: IrishEi at February 10, 2016 01:49 PM (E6RIJ)

789 GWHBush was a business man.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 10, 2016 01:39 PM (rwI+c)


Yeah if you consider the CIA a business. GHWBush was a total Washington insider, hence why the eGOPs shoved him on Reagan.

Posted by: RickZ at February 10, 2016 01:49 PM (Ix+HS)

790 Bernie's a good athlete. He did quite well in high school distance running. New York Jews were once a force in basketball. CCNY is the only team to have won the NCAAs and the NIT in the same year, and did it back-to-back. The NIT used to be a bigger deal that the NCAAs

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2016 01:49 PM (r1fLd)

791 We're still on water heaters?

When do we get to guns?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2016 01:49 PM (8ZskC)

792 AW, yeah, we noticed that too. I guess the Houston market has learned not to be too tied to O&G.

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at February 10, 2016 01:51 PM (uiVGU)

793 I like This Old House but those guys come off as toadies for the EPA.

Holmes' various shows do the same thing for Canadian regulations. I wouldn't mind him doing our house over, but he'd spend like $30,000 extra dollars on stuff just in case something terrible happened one day.

And the way these guys act about mold is like an obsessive compulsive clean freak hypcondriac on speed. They act like mold will murder everything it touches.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 01:51 PM (39g3+)

794 When do we get to guns?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2016 01:49 PM (8ZskC)


Speaking of guns I need a nice handgun to carry while traveling. Any suggestions?

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 01:51 PM (UnJ7w)

795 I've got some strange water. It reacts with my ice cube maker and makes the bad taste more obvious and it corrodes the crap metal they used in it. So I have to make ice cubes.

Yet the water doesn't have that strong a taste when drunk straight.

Makes me mad having an automatic ice cube maker and not being able to use it.

I also get something growing in the water at certain times of the year in the toilet and have to use a chemical tablet in the tank to keep it down. Bacterial iron? I always thought that was reddish. This stuff is black.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 10, 2016 01:51 PM (Xo1Rt)

796 I would enjoy a "Spectre" review!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2016 01:51 PM (NOIQH)

797 redbanzai I caution against taking the troll bait precisely because I'm prone to blowing a gasket at the little bastards.

I'm always here to explain in clear, vivid, erudite, relatable, persuasive, humorous, insightful fashion how Cruz BLOWS and Trump should ABOLISH CONGRESS.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 01:52 PM (xuouz)

798 I've heard tankless require descaling from time to time?


I may have to go tankless for my next one because of all the dumb regulations on larger hot water tanks.

The green movement is now splitting hairs, my monthly gas bill was like $25 and my water tank has worked perfectly for 20 years. Why screw that up to save $2 a month?

Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 01:52 PM (ccapd)

799 >>>If you are not wealthy and don't have bodyguards then London is a place to visit not live.

Bodyguards? You can't possibly be serious.

I travel to London on a fairly regular basis, for business and pleasure. I love it.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 10, 2016 01:52 PM (bpn7O)

800 Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 01:51 PM (UnJ7w)

105mm recoiless rifle. They're light and easy to trailer.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 10, 2016 01:52 PM (Xo1Rt)

801 791, well, we have twin 50s.

Water heaters, that is...

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at February 10, 2016 01:53 PM (sdPF/)

802
Just read Malkin's takedown of David Brooks. It was thorough.

It prompted me to wonder whether Brooks and others of his ilk ever have this self-humbling thought enter their mind: "Maybe I'm not as smart as I think I am."

To have it balances one's perspective. Not to have it? I can't imagine the mindset of someone who cannot do so.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 10, 2016 01:54 PM (BK3ZS)

803
Jimmy Carter owned and ran a peanut farm.
credentials are a weak indicator. Experience tells you a bit more, but it doesn't generalize well since experience by definition is individual.
In the end, its always a crap shoot. Unless you have a really horrible candidate like Hillary. Then its obviously not going to work.

Posted by: simplemind at February 10, 2016 01:54 PM (C6xeQ)

804 795 I've got some strange water. It reacts with my ice cube maker and makes the bad taste more obvious and it corrodes the crap metal they used in it. So I have to make ice cubes.

Yet the water doesn't have that strong a taste when drunk straight.

Makes me mad having an automatic ice cube maker and not being able to use it.

I also get something growing in the water at certain times of the year in the toilet and have to use a chemical tablet in the tank to keep it down. Bacterial iron? I always thought that was reddish. This stuff is black.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 10, 2016 01:51 PM (Xo1Rt)


This is what happens when you live downstream from Lena Dunham.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 01:54 PM (maOV6)

805 They act like mold will murder everything it touches.

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All homes have mold. If the house is over a year old I can find mold in it.

Having sad that... there are some legitimate dangers to certain mold types. Ive done remediations where there were literally mushrooms growing out of the ceilings. Those are very dangerous and will make you very sick.

But your average ordinary "bread" mold. Overblown danger. Just like radon.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 01:54 PM (8XRCm)

806 An old honky on both halves of the ticket won't exactly be galvanizing the urban yoof to rush to the polls.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2016 01:48 PM (noWW6)

Yeah but fuck America, fuck Republicans, fuck Christianity, and fuck our structurally racist legal system, remember?

Berniebots will see Neil DeGrasse Tyson and Beyonce telling them it's all for the best. And unless they're smarter than they obviously aren't we'll need someone with deep pockets, who's quick on his feet, and has cultural cachet, to oppose them.

He said, without an agenda...

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 01:54 PM (xuouz)

807
Raaaaaaaaaadon!

*falls over dead*

Posted by: A Cockroach at February 10, 2016 01:55 PM (oFSUK)

808
Just read Malkin's takedown of David Brooks. It was thorough.

It prompted me to wonder whether Brooks and others of his ilk ever have this self-humbling thought enter their mind: "Maybe I'm not as smart as I think I am."

I really think that guy is compromised somehow. He can't possibly believe the things he says. Even if he was a shill, he'd do a better job. This is clearly a dictated column directly from Obama. Its like the guy who wrote "muscular" about a speech because they told him to write "muscular".

Posted by: simplemind at February 10, 2016 01:56 PM (C6xeQ)

809 The green movement is now splitting hairs, my monthly gas bill was like $25 and my water tank has worked perfectly for 20 years. Why screw that up to save $2 a month?
Posted by: Kal at February 10, 2016 01:52 PM (ccapd)

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Because they can....

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

CS LEWIS

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 01:56 PM (8XRCm)

810 762 The water where I work is not drinkable. The company supplies water coolers and bottled water.
Posted by: rd at February 10, 2016 01:41 PM (v0YLX)

Our water is pretty lousy. We refer to it as the west Texas chlorine bouquet.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 01:43 PM (UnJ7w)


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In western OK there are two water tables. The first one which is only 25-50 feet down is what's referred to as "gyp water". It is not fit for man or beast but it can be used for some non-pottable purposes. The deep table is around 100 feet or deeper. Super clean and very good.

For cities here, we use lakes and rivers. Once the water is filtered and treated, it's generally pretty good.

Posted by: Soona at February 10, 2016 01:56 PM (Fmupd)

811 How ya doing, Chi:-) I woke up to a dusting of snow this morning. Did you get any down your way?
Posted by: redbanzai
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Not too bad. A little bummed. Mom's birthday is today, and she turned me down for a lunch date
Who turns down their favorite son for a free lunch?!?

No snow, but reallllly cold. I think we're supposed to get a little in a day or two, but nothing major.

Posted by: Chi at February 10, 2016 01:56 PM (OUpHg)

812 Despite a 60% to 38% margin of victory over the corrupt harridan, Bernie Sanders got two less NH delegates than Hillary.
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That isn't correct, since it counts the superdelegates currently pledged to Hillary. Those delegates are free to change their mind whenever they want to do so, and if Bernie keeps racking up wins they will.

Posted by: MTF at February 10, 2016 01:57 PM (TxJGV)

813 802
Just read Malkin's takedown of David Brooks. It was thorough.

It prompted me to wonder whether Brooks and others of his ilk ever have this self-humbling thought enter their mind: "Maybe I'm not as smart as I think I am."

To have it balances one's perspective. Not to have it? I can't imagine the mindset of someone who cannot do so.


Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 10, 2016 01:54 PM (BK3ZS)


As I was told by one of my instructors at Navy Nuclear Power School...

Those who think they are intelligent are really annoying to those who actually are... because the more you know, the more you realize you don't know.

Posted by: Don Quixote, who was in the Cold War at February 10, 2016 01:57 PM (f7rv6)

814 I've got some strange water. It reacts with my ice cube maker and makes the bad taste more obvious and it corrodes the crap metal they used in it.


My parents had three garbage disposals and 4 ice makers literally fall off due to corrosion while growing up. Dissimilar metals in the water/appliance. THAT'S how bad the tap water was.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 01:57 PM (Y42RP)

815 Jeez, did anyone else see David Brook's crazy "I Miss Obama" tear-stained letter?
This guy is fucking nuts.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 10, 2016 01:57 PM (+rZYQ)

816 He said, without an agenda...
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 01:54 PM (xuouz)

That's what worries me the most. We have lost control of our culture. I really think the States have to wrest control of education completely from the fed gov't. No more dept of edu.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 01:57 PM (UnJ7w)

817 That isn't correct, since it counts the superdelegates currently pledged to Hillary. Those delegates are free to change their mind whenever they want to do so, and if Bernie keeps racking up wins they will.
Posted by: MTF at February 10, 2016 01:57 PM (TxJGV)

Cool. I feel better.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 01:57 PM (xuouz)

818 I really think the States have to wrest control of education completely from the fed gov't. No more dept of edu.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 01:57 PM (UnJ7w)

eeeeeeeyup

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 01:58 PM (xuouz)

819 "using bottled water because ours is so hard. Have to replace faucets about every five years and coffee machines die monthly"

I have hard water, set up a reverse osmosis thingy under the sink, cost about $130. Takes total dissolved solids from 300 to 15. Had it for two years without replacing any cartridges, but use it mostly for coffee.

That doesn't help pipes, but a whole house filter helps some with pipes, faucets. Though that may be about other junk, not hardness.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 10, 2016 01:58 PM (5Gpe2)

820 If the ticket is Clinton/Sanders then the above is a certainty. And that could be very. Very. Bad.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 01:40 PM (xuouz)

In these precarious times, I'veadopted 'Buy More Ammo' as my personal motto and all-around rule to live by, and suggest other, like-minded sorts of people do the same.

I've considered tradmarking it as my own (ka-ching!) but unfortunately don't have an army of Disney lawyers at my disposal.

Buy More Ammo.

Posted by: troyriser at February 10, 2016 01:59 PM (WuTfJ)

821
then London is a place to visit not live.

Bodyguards? You can't possibly be serious.

I travel to London on a fairly regular basis, for business and pleasure. I love it.

You might have mis read that . . . he's saying go ahead and visit, don't live there. You don't live there, you visit.

Posted by: simplemind at February 10, 2016 01:59 PM (C6xeQ)

822 Someone call willow.

This thread is stale.

Posted by: blaster at February 10, 2016 01:59 PM (jtf24)

823 will be hybrid heat pumps that use 50 percent less energy

This is of course not true. Putting a pot of water you want hot right over a flame is the BEST you can do.

Posted by: Carnot at February 10, 2016 01:59 PM (DL2i+)

824 Why does anybody put a camera on Juan Williams?


Racism.

Racists always pick out the worst of the target group and claim they're the norm.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 10, 2016 02:00 PM (Xo1Rt)

825 I really like the lower branches of the central tree in this thread's painting.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 02:00 PM (xuouz)

826 815 Jeez, did anyone else see David Brook's crazy "I Miss Obama" tear-stained letter?
This guy is fucking nuts.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 10, 2016 01:57 PM (+rZYQ)

Had it's own thread yesterday

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 02:00 PM (/CXhS)

827 820, a good rule to live by no matter where or when...

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at February 10, 2016 02:01 PM (NHQQx)

828 739

Investigated heat pump water heaters. Only works efficiently in open environments. Can't stuff in a closet/enclosed space. So replumb after relocate. Spendy. Only cost effective if you use electricity.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at February 10, 2016 02:02 PM (FtrY1)

829 Oh my gosh you guys! Let's get 1000 posts!

But only because I don't have ace's home address and can't go throw rocks at his window.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 02:02 PM (xuouz)

830 817
That isn't correct, since it counts the superdelegates currently pledged
to Hillary. Those delegates are free to change their mind whenever they
want to do so, and if Bernie keeps racking up wins they will.

Posted by: MTF at February 10, 2016 01:57 PM (TxJGV)

Cool. I feel better

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't she have the super-delegates in her pocket in 2008 but they shifted to Obama? She won the popular vote but Obama was determined to be a stronger candidate.

Posted by: Naes at February 10, 2016 02:02 PM (Ypc8j)

831 Posted by: troyriser at February 10, 2016 01:59 PM (WuTfJ)

Wow.

You're usually a more serious guy.

Given up, huh?

It's okay, we all get to the "fuck it" point at least once in our lives.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 10, 2016 02:02 PM (Xo1Rt)

832
O/T


Somebody needs to do a Beyonce / Forrrest Gump photoshop meme thingy.....

"Sorry I spoiled Your Black Panther Party".

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 02:03 PM (8XRCm)

833 I really think what motivates people like Brooks when it comes to Obama is simply a twisted version or racism every bit as dangerous as the KKK brand. They look at Obama with his college prof bearing and his perfectly-creased pants and they think to themselves , "Why can't THEY (meaning all other blacks) be more like Obama."
By which they mean un-threatening, mild, ligh-skinned and pencil-dicked.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 10, 2016 02:03 PM (+rZYQ)

834 To have it balances one's perspective. Not to have it? I can't imagine the mindset of someone who cannot do so.


Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 10, 2016 01:54 PM (BK3ZS)

Brooks is a snob who confuses credentials with wisdom. If you went to The Right Schools, you know what is best for the peons who did not. You know better than they do.

If that is embedded in your head and all of the people you work with and socialize with think the same way, "self-doubt" is not in your vocabulary.

I suspect that the minute people like Brooks let doubts creep into their heads, their whole world view shatters.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 02:03 PM (u0lmX)

835 So I'm taking this GOP survey. What should be the centerpiece of the 2016 platform how should most campaign money be spent on. Where is your preferred candidate strongest. Which democrat should be focused on. Where are democrats weakest.

Then comes the real bull shit. "How do you identify yourself" conservative moderate tea party conservative or libertarian.

Does our party effective communicate our principles yes or no. Should there be more or fewer debates next election. Should the candidate run as a conservative or moderate in the election

And the last question is truly stupid. "Did you have access to enough yard signs in the 2012 election"

Posted by: Buzzion at February 10, 2016 02:03 PM (z/Ubi)

836 Back to living in Italy.

During the summer months, the local water system was so undersized and leaking that the municipality would shut off water to the entire city of Gaeta from about 11:00pm till about 5:00am the next morning.

We rented a home which had two one hundred gallon cistern tanks, and our own water pump for during the down times.

Each one was filled back up by something which was basically the largest toilet tank float valve that you ever saw.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 10, 2016 02:04 PM (ptqRm)

837 I meant "pencil-necked"; but "pencil-dicked" applies as well.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 10, 2016 02:04 PM (+rZYQ)

838 794 When do we get to guns?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2016 01:49 PM (8ZskC)


Speaking of guns I need a nice handgun to carry while traveling. Any suggestions?
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 01:51 PM (UnJ7w)


There's a great video here
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/01/14/flying-with-guns/

Posted by: Iblis at February 10, 2016 02:05 PM (9221z)

839 Somebody needs to do a Beyonce / Forrrest Gump photoshop meme thingy.....

"Sorry I spoiled Your Black Panther Party".



Next year's halftime show will be a Klan dance off. Equal time and all.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 02:05 PM (Y42RP)

840 Speaking of guns I need a nice handgun to carry while traveling. Any suggestions?

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 01:51 PM (UnJ7w)

I own a Seecamp .32 ACP: small, nice caliber, unobtrusive, beautifully made, reliable. Good traveling piece.

Posted by: troyriser at February 10, 2016 02:05 PM (WuTfJ)

841 What amazes me is all the pundits saying they think Trump will get nailed in the general because he has such high negatives.

Didn't he have really high negatives among GOP voters to start off, and now he is whittling those down?

Why can't he accomplish the same thing among general election voters as what he has already done among some Republicans? The guy is obviously a talented politician, even if you don't like him. Seems crazy not to acknowledge that up front.

Posted by: MTF at February 10, 2016 02:05 PM (TxJGV)

842

It's okay, we all get to the "fuck it" point at least once in our lives.

So, the venn diagram of those how have not yet said that, is getting smaller over time. As much as I'd like to think that trend will not continue I can not see the mechanism for reversal at this time.
In the end they will say to the mountains fall on us, to the hills cover us.

Posted by: simplemind at February 10, 2016 02:05 PM (C6xeQ)

843 It's as if David Brooks only knows what he reads in the New York Times.

Posted by: Furious George at February 10, 2016 02:05 PM (3GAnN)

844 I suspect that the minute people like Brooks let doubts creep into their heads, their whole world view shatters.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 02:03 PM (u0lmX)

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Which is why elites .... and especially LIBERAL elites.... react so...... emotionally unhinged...... when you challenge their core beliefs.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 02:05 PM (8XRCm)

845 And of course the next page is the demand for money.

Posted by: Buzzion at February 10, 2016 02:06 PM (z/Ubi)

846 Well, the little Rugers are pretty nice...

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at February 10, 2016 02:06 PM (NHQQx)

847 I must be a genius cause I go through the day constantly being reminded how fcuking stupid I am.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 10, 2016 02:06 PM (Xo1Rt)

848 By which they mean un-threatening, mild, ligh-skinned and pencil-dicked.
Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 10, 2016 02:03 PM (+rZYQ)

Rush did a parody of this called "Barack The Magic Negro". It's worth googling with the appropriate context of course. It's based on an article a black writer wrote about obama before the Great Immaculation of 2008.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 02:06 PM (UnJ7w)

849 Jeez, did anyone else see David Brook's crazy "I Miss Obama" tear-stained letter?
This guy is fucking nuts.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 10, 2016 01:57 PM (+rZYQ)

Had it's own thread yesterday
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA

He does seem to lack a sense of prorfessional detachment and neutrality.

Posted by: Josh Earnest, Spokeswhore at February 10, 2016 02:07 PM (326rv)

850 I've spent a lot of my professional life among lawyers. Lawyers can be narrow-minded and think that they're smarter than they really are. They can get hung up on process and be slow. Many are innumerate. Many prosper in cloistered environments. While not true of all, there's a sizeable percentage of lawyers who I wouldn't trust to valet park my car.

I'm a big fan of the Constitution, but if you think our Way Back is just to "return to fundamental Constitutional principles" or some such other happy horseshit, then you're deluded.

Thus, while I like Cruz, and would vote for him, he doesn't bring enough to the table.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2016 02:07 PM (r1fLd)

851 I'd bet good money David Brooks voted for John Anderson in 1980 because he thought Reagan was too extreme. He'd never admit it but Anderson was thought of himself as the "reasonable centrist."

Posted by: Naes at February 10, 2016 02:07 PM (Ypc8j)

852 I own a Seecamp .32 ACP: small, nice caliber, unobtrusive, beautifully made, reliable. Good traveling piece.
Posted by: troyriser at February 10, 2016 02:05 PM (WuTfJ)

Thanks for the recommendation. I'll definitely check that out.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 02:07 PM (UnJ7w)

853 I'm always here to explain in clear, vivid, erudite,
relatable, persuasive, humorous, insightful fashion how Cruz BLOWS and
Trump should ABOLISH CONGRESS.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 01:52 PM (xuouz)

And I will, after the same fashion elucidate you on why Trump DROOLS and Cruz RULES and will bring on a new era of making the government leave me the hell alone. 8D

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 02:08 PM (OrI3J)

854 Austria - Asylum seekers given priority for hospital visits

The reason is that many asylum seekers need expensive translators to help communicate with doctors, and officials do not want to pay for the translators to sit around waiting.



http://tinyurl.com/j2ybzao

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 02:08 PM (/CXhS)

855 Rush did a parody of this called "Barack The Magic Negro".

----

Techically...... the LA Times coined the term. Rush made it famous.

Of course Rush is the raging racist.

The Times.... free as a jaybird.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 02:08 PM (8XRCm)

856
I must be a genius cause I go through the day constantly being reminded how fcuking stupid I am.
Apparently that is only the case, if you DON'T let it annoy you!

Posted by: simplemind at February 10, 2016 02:09 PM (C6xeQ)

857 Life is like a box of dog shit.

It smells, looks bad and only gets worse with time.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 10, 2016 02:09 PM (Xo1Rt)

858
Berniebots will see Neil DeGrasse Tyson and Beyonce telling them it's all for the best. And unless they're smarter than they obviously aren't we'll need someone with deep pockets, who's quick on his feet, and has cultural cachet, to oppose them.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 01:54 PM (xuouz)

But torquewrench was referring to "urban yoofs" not pasty white pajama boys or hipsters with ironic tattoos. The Berniebots and the urban yoofs are not the same demographic.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 02:09 PM (u0lmX)

859
If you went to The Right Schools, you know what is best for the peons who did not.

Having gone to one of those "Right Schools", what I recall at the time was if I took any of those schlubs back to my upper Midwestern working class town, they'd be the butt of numerous snipe hunt and similar pranks and would have no idea they were even being pranked. Some geniuses they were.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 10, 2016 02:09 PM (BK3ZS)

860 NARAL reacts to Doritos commercial.

https://youtu.be/7VU0nOxZa1I

Stolen from Herman Cain.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 02:09 PM (Nwg0u)

861 Science! The perfect pancake.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/j9hmwoq

Posted by: goon at February 10, 2016 02:09 PM (gy5kE)

862 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 10, 2016 02:04 PM (ptqRm)

The Romans had better water 2000 years ago (quality and quantity) than the Italians have today.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 02:09 PM (zc3Db)

863 Bernie 2016: The Nagging Voice of the Past that The Future Deserves

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Ashes, Sackcloth, Woe and Despair! Election and Lenten Specials at the Outrage Outlet! at February 10, 2016 02:09 PM (hLRSq)

864 Brooks' "scandal free" claim raises the question as to whether an abuse of power is actually an abuse of power if the New York Times pays no attention to it.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at February 10, 2016 02:10 PM (RvTz9)

865 840 Speaking of guns I need a nice handgun to carry while traveling. Any suggestions?



I alternate between an H&K USP .45 Compact and a Taurus CIA .357 depending on time of year.
The CIA, (carry it anywhere), is a stainless 5 shot snub nose for summer and wearing shorts.
The Compact is for belt/winter wear.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 02:10 PM (Y42RP)

866
I'm always here to explain in clear, vivid, erudite,
relatable, persuasive, humorous, insightful fashion how Cruz BLOWS and
Trump should ABOLISH CONGRESS.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 01:52 PM (xuouz)

And I will, after the same fashion elucidate you on why Trump DROOLS and Cruz RULES and will bring on a new era of making the government leave me the hell alone.

Interestingly enough. Neither of them will be able to be as effective unless they are on a ticket together. Otherwise they will be fighting off impeachment attacks.

Posted by: simplemind at February 10, 2016 02:11 PM (C6xeQ)

867 850. As a lawyer, I endorse this. There is not nearly enough professional diversity among elected officials. We need more people in office from backgrounds outside of the law.

Posted by: nick in south bend at February 10, 2016 02:11 PM (H43MS)

868 Henry Farrer, "Evening Calm"

Beautiful painting.

It's almost as good as Dogs Playing Poker.

But seriously, terrific work.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 10, 2016 02:11 PM (1CroS)

869
I'm a big fan of the Constitution, but if you think our Way Back is just to "return to fundamental Constitutional principles" or some such other happy horseshit, then you're deluded.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2016 02:07 PM (r1fLd)

I respectfully disagree with you. The Constitution is the only way. You sir are advocating for tyranny whether you know it or not. Trump isn't going to save us nor Cruz. An Article V solution on the other hand...

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 02:11 PM (UnJ7w)

870 >>Next year's halftime show will be a Klan dance off. Equal time and all.


Would it be too much to ask for a country act? OK, even a "country" act, one that fills stadiums, sings songs that many people know. It doesn't have to be full on Toby Keith and Willie Nelson "Beer for My Horses," but it would be fun to see the same people who are lecturing us on the relevance of Beyonce's "message" be offended by such a blunt message.

Beyonce essentially turned her SB appearance into a new single promotion party. In addition to the BLM/black panthers nonsense, it was obnoxious for her to make it all about Beyonce (something she excels at).

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2016 02:11 PM (NOIQH)

871 Next year's halftime show will be a Klan dance off. Equal time and all.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 02:05 PM (Y42RP)


Yeah, that would be epic. They could reenact this scene from Oh Brother Where Art Thou:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoIebIKNS4s

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 02:11 PM (maOV6)

872 But your average ordinary "bread" mold. Overblown danger. Just like radon.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 01:54 PM (8XRCm)

Fixerupper, can you elaborate about radon? The state of Michigan constantly has public service annoucements about testing for radon in your home. You can't sell a house here without a radon test and if it is one point over the threshold(current anything over 4 microcuries, whatever) you have to have it remediated.
My own home has tested at , you guessed it, 5. Just from reading online, I don't know how they would remediate it to get it below the threshold. We have a walkout basement that is 60% fully finished.
I"ve read an article written by an industrial hygienist who says the thresholds are bogus, simply numbers picked out of the air.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 10, 2016 02:11 PM (K0Iz7)

873 waves arms throws ice water on ace.

wake up!

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:12 PM (9XzdI)

874 Trump - Guillotine 2016
It Just Feels Right

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Ashes, Sackcloth, Woe and Despair! Election and Lenten Specials at the Outrage Outlet! at February 10, 2016 02:12 PM (hLRSq)

875 Apropos of nothing, just finished binge-watching Star Trek: Enterprise.

I had never watched it previously , having been sort of over the "forehead of the week" and experiencing ST over-saturation at that time.

Watching it now, despite glaring flaws, it was starting to hit a stride in the 3rd and 4th seasons. It was true to the nature of the TOS even if took too many liberties with some aspects. Clunky dialogue, but still reminiscent of 20th century sitcom feel .

It had a sweet, sort of goofiness that recalled Kirk and Spock rather than Captain Picard's socialist smirking superiority.


Posted by: Mortimer at February 10, 2016 02:12 PM (Iz75+)

876 Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 02:10 PM (Y42RP)

Thanks!

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 02:12 PM (UnJ7w)

877
In fact I suspect Trump and CRuz know this and after they have corralled up their delegates the order on the ticket will be decided accordingly.
This is also why the Gope is pooping itself. Those two get enough delegates the GOPe won't have any leverage.

Posted by: simplemind at February 10, 2016 02:12 PM (C6xeQ)

878
Also JJ Abrams Ghey Crying Hipsters Circling Uranus is not Star Trek.

Blowing up Vulcan?? Ninja , please.

Get off my lawn.

Posted by: Mortimer at February 10, 2016 02:12 PM (Iz75+)

879 Is this the gun thread?

Posted by: tu3031 at February 10, 2016 02:13 PM (YFFpo)

880 >>Brooks' "scandal free" claim raises the question as to whether an abuse
of power is actually an abuse of power if the New York Times pays no
attention to it.

NYT has always held the power to set the news agenda for other media outlets (though the internet has eaten away at that). News anchors have always said they open the NYT in the morning to see what they will be covering in their evening news shows.

In that light, I see the Brooks column as a signal that the message is: "no scandal." Run with it!!

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2016 02:13 PM (NOIQH)

881 tu, it could be , if we shoot it dead.

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:14 PM (9XzdI)

882 It's okay, we all get to the "fuck it" point at least once in our lives.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 10, 2016 02:02 PM (Xo1Rt)

My fellow countrymen are on the verge of possibly electing a demagogue, a harpie rancid with corruption, or a straight-up Marxist socialist to the presidency. The Germans had a term for a chess position from which there is no best move; all moves are equally bad/hopeless: Zugzwang.

We as a people are in zugzwang, and I don't see positive outcome anywhere I look. So yeah: buy more ammo.

Posted by: troyriser at February 10, 2016 02:14 PM (WuTfJ)

883 pew -pew!

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:14 PM (9XzdI)

884 "Not too bad. A little bummed. Mom's birthday is today, and she turned me down for a lunch date

Who turns down their favorite son for a free lunch?!?
"



Is she single? Does she have a hot date? Are you maybe going to get a new daddy out of the deal?:-P

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 02:14 PM (OrI3J)

885 >>Having gone to one of those "Right Schools", what I recall at the time was if I took any of those schlubs back to my upper Midwestern working class town, they'd be the butt of numerous snipe hunt and similar pranks and would have no idea they were even being pranked. Some geniuses they were.

I went to Winter Carnival at Middlebury College with a buddy years ago. We were dressed like typical college slobs (which we were) but we topped it off with sports coats to be all elegant and shit.

We popped between parties telling the students that we were a couple of potato farmers from Skowhegan, ME and we were interested in making a deal with the school to plant potatoes all over the college campus but we would leave the building alone.

It was amazing how many believed us.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2016 02:14 PM (/tuJf)

886 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 02:09 PM (zc3Db)

Yeah. Too bad about all that lead piping.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 10, 2016 02:14 PM (Xo1Rt)

887 s this the gun thread?
Posted by: tu3031


Juicyfruit.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 10, 2016 02:14 PM (FkBIv)

888 An Article V solution on the other hand...

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 02:11 PM (UnJ7w)


...would be overrun with pinkos, greenies, feminazis, and poofters, each competing to enshrine their personal problems into constitutional law.

No. Thanks.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 02:14 PM (maOV6)

889
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 10, 2016 02:04 PM (ptqRm)

The Romans had better water 2000 years ago (quality and quantity) than the Italians have today.
Because the Mafia hadn't yet taken over water treatment jobs.

Posted by: simplemind at February 10, 2016 02:14 PM (C6xeQ)

890 perhaps something bigger.

Boom -Boom!

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:15 PM (9XzdI)

891 Fixerupper, can you elaborate about radon? The state of Michigan constantly has public service annoucements about testing for radon in your home. You can't sell a house here without a radon test and if it is one point over the threshold(current anything over 4 microcuries, whatever) you have to have it remediated.
My own home has tested at , you guessed it, 5. Just from reading online, I don't know how they would remediate it to get it below the threshold. We have a walkout basement that is 60% fully finished.
I"ve read an article written by an industrial hygienist who says the thresholds are bogus, simply numbers picked out of the air.
Posted by: Jen the original at February 10, 2016 02:11 PM (K0Iz7)

-----

Radon is a trace gas that "can" leach from the ground, pass through concrete, into basement air..... slowly..... over time. It is heavier than air. The fear is it "may" be carcinogenic.

The day before your test..... open the damn windows. The radon evacuation systems???? They are an overpriced, glorified fart fan.

Open the damn windows.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 02:16 PM (8XRCm)

892 Yeah, Kasich. Enjoy your short-lived glory this week. Because by this time next week, you'll be flailing your arms again.

Posted by: Soona at February 10, 2016 02:16 PM (Fmupd)

893 Yeah. Too bad about all that lead piping.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 10, 2016 02:14 PM (Xo1Rt)


Details ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 02:16 PM (zc3Db)

894 873 waves arms throws ice water on ace.

wake up!
Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:12 PM (9XzdI)

Right, I saw the art thread still up and figured something must be wrong. Wonder if it'l get close to 1000 posts before any of them notice

Posted by: random lurker at February 10, 2016 02:16 PM (+tRIN)

895 Is she single? Does she have a hot date? Are you maybe going to get a new daddy out of the deal?:-P




I lol'd.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 02:16 PM (Y42RP)

896 I lived in a dorm room in London back in 1980. I had to feed a meter to keep the heat on - and even in July, I needed heat in that room. A Brit friend showed me how to fix the meter so I wouldn't have to keep popping 10p coins into it.

And British dorm food took dorm food to a whole new level of awful. I couldn't eat it and in 1980 my grease tolerance was much higher than it is now. But even the scrambled eggs were greasy, as if everything was cooked in slightly rancid vegetable oil.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 02:16 PM (u0lmX)

897
How about we let me heat my water how the FUCK I WANT TO?

Is that a problem?

We're gonna have a good time this Spring, I have to replace my leach field for the septic system.

I'll lose the back yard for a bit, but gain a new lawn. Someone else will do that, the last time was my turn.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 10, 2016 02:17 PM (P/8aq)

898 888 An Article V solution on the other hand...

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 02:11 PM (UnJ7w)

...would be overrun with pinkos, greenies, feminazis, and poofters, each competing to enshrine their personal problems into constitutional law.

No. Thanks.
Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 02:14 PM (maOV6)



And ignored before the ink dried.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 02:17 PM (Y42RP)

899 890 perhaps something bigger.

Boom -Boom!

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:15 PM (9XzdI)


"Sorry, nothing else in the queue right now. Try again later."

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 02:17 PM (maOV6)

900 random, my skills are sporadic (Very). I still try ,however for the good of the crew.

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:18 PM (9XzdI)

901 So Bernie has got the coveted te-Nehisi Coates endorsement huh ?

Could be the end for Hillary!

Posted by: McCool at February 10, 2016 02:19 PM (nCSwS)

902 Next stop...1000!

Posted by: tu3031 at February 10, 2016 02:19 PM (YFFpo)

903 Is there anybody with a biohazard suit in NYC that can go look in on ace?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 10, 2016 02:19 PM (Wckf4)

904 OregonMuse, i believe You have skills to make a new thread appear!

threatens to sing ,'don't worry be happy'

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:19 PM (9XzdI)

905 892
Yeah, Kasich. Enjoy your short-lived glory this week. Because by this time next week, you'll be flailing your arms again.

I'm curious about
1 When Carson is finishing his book tour (I mean campaign)
2 If Rubio lays an egg in South Carolina if he'll really stick around until Florida on March 15.
3 When we're going to finally see some Gil-mentum.

Posted by: Naes at February 10, 2016 02:20 PM (Ypc8j)

906 would be overrun with pinkos, greenies, feminazis, and poofters, each competing to enshrine their personal problems into constitutional law.

No. Thanks.
Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 02:14 PM (maOV6)

Not true. State legislatures make the decisions. Currently we have 34 states with bicameral republican control. This is the untold story of 2010 and 2014. All the seats the republicans won. Even Ace has warmed up to the idea. Eventually we are going to have to consider this option. The president simply can't roll back all of this progressive change. The 10th Amendment will have to have a renaissance. The only way is to invoke Article V.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 02:20 PM (UnJ7w)

907 I lol'd.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 02:16 PM (Y42RP)

Thank you, thank you. Tell your friends... I'm here all week.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 02:20 PM (OrI3J)

908 drags out a table to dance on.. family part of blog tossed away.

don't make me go there blogggers!

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:20 PM (9XzdI)

909 When I looked I saw gdp Grest Britain at 40K and Mississippi at 30K
Did anyone bother to check or is that just not done when it's something you want to believe
As for water heaters must new high end construction seems to go tankless with banks if needed

Posted by: Bubba at February 10, 2016 02:20 PM (FhT/k)

910 My good friend Jeb Bush is gonna win South Carolina. I don't care how many voters I gotta blow.

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at February 10, 2016 02:21 PM (OZmbA)

911 "You sir are advocating for tyranny whether you know it or not."

No I'm not. The Constitution is just a framework that people act within. Plenty of activist judges have shown that. And then you have the strange case of Obama. All "constitutional."

Our next President can do a lot of good by just undoing a lot of what's been done, all within Constitutional boundaries. Pinning hopes on an Article V convention is like praying for a deus ex machina. I'd rather take a scalpel and a chainsaw to the federal budget, for openers.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2016 02:21 PM (r1fLd)

912 868 Henry Farrer, "Evening Calm"

Beautiful painting.

It's almost as good as Dogs Playing Poker."




Heresy! Dogs Playing Poker is up there with Turner's watercolors and Rembrandt's self portraits.

Don't go dissing Dogs Playing Poker.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 02:22 PM (u0lmX)

913 I can elaborate about Radon. I wrote a fairly extensive piece on the ridiculous scam:

http://tinyurl.com/jgne5sc

In summary:
-its heavier than air
-it has a half life so brief it turns into sub-microscopic -lead particles in a matter of weeks
-well water is more radioactive than radon gas
-The only study done on its dangers was done in really crappy mines in Colorado in the 50s.

But the EPA scared the crap out of people so now they are all worried about Radon Gas.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 02:22 PM (39g3+)

914 And ignored before the ink dried.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 02:17 PM (Y42RP)

That depends how the Amendments are structured. If you have an amendment that gives the States the power to overturn a SCOTUS decision, how exactly can that be ignored if the States are doing the ignoring?

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 02:23 PM (UnJ7w)

915 904 OregonMuse, i believe You have skills to make a new thread appear!

threatens to sing ,'don't worry be happy'

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:19 PM (9XzdI)


Only permitted on weekends, sorry.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 02:23 PM (maOV6)

916 The president simply can't roll back all of this progressive change. The 10th Amendment will have to have a renaissance. The only way is to invoke Article V.



How do you make people follow the changes if they aren't following the Constitution now?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 02:23 PM (Y42RP)

917 drags table to corner, sits in chair,

sorry ,i tried; threats, epithets, tears do not appear to work anymore.

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:23 PM (9XzdI)

918 ace is decomposing in my locker.

Posted by: eleven at February 10, 2016 02:24 PM (qUNWi)

919 "Thus, while I like Cruz, and would vote for him, he doesn't bring enough to the table." ignoramus

yeah, I think most underestimate the value of a guy like Trump having real life experience "swimming with the sharks", where his own business is on the line, in competition with connected players. The dirty stuff and the powerful using influence doesn't work like arguing in front of SCOTUS. Navigating the unions, and various power groups is not like meeting with lobbyists and voting in congress.

And I agree on the lawyer evaluation. The white collar lawyer/politician cabals use the law as a tool/weapon, and seem to think legal might makes right. That doesn't work out well for many average citizens who don't have one on staff, and don't mingle with the mayor.

Ted can talk pretty but it is Trump that took on Billary and the sex stuff head on, same with the unvetted Muslim pause, the illegals must go, and so on.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 10, 2016 02:24 PM (5Gpe2)

920 Oregon, darn it, but you post so well.

we need new ace rules and regs set up.

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:25 PM (9XzdI)

921 This thread has been open for over 4 hours. Take it to the ER!

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 10, 2016 02:25 PM (kpqmD)

922 So Bernie has got the coveted te-Nehisi Coates endorsement huh ?

Could be the end for Hillary!

-
Bern is meeting with Sharptoon today.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 10, 2016 02:25 PM (Nwg0u)

923 >> slightly rancid vegetable oil.

Posted by: Donna and V.


My English girlfriend bought me dinner from a chippy shop (fish and chips wrapped in newspaper) in the Liverpool area in 1983. The grease the stuff was fried in reeked. It was very rancid. She couldn't figure out what I was complaining about.

Posted by: Sphynx at February 10, 2016 02:25 PM (OZmbA)

924 OregonMuse, i believe You have skills to make a new thread appear!

threatens to sing ,'don't worry be happy'

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:19 PM (9XzdI)

Only permitted on weekends, sorry.


Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 02:23 PM (maOV
We could do an endless round of The Song That Never Ends (ala lambchop) until Ace either goes completely batty or gives into our demands for a new thread.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 02:25 PM (OrI3J)

925 That depends how the Amendments are structured. If you have an amendment that gives the States the power to overturn a SCOTUS decision, how exactly can that be ignored if the States are doing the ignoring?



What part of "shall not be infringed" is so difficult to understand?

The "shall", the "not", or the "infringed"?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 02:25 PM (Y42RP)

926 This thread has been open for over 4 hours. Take it to the ER!
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016

Bob Dole would agree with this.

Posted by: Bob Dole at February 10, 2016 02:26 PM (326rv)

927 918 ace is decomposing in my locker.
Posted by: eleven at February 10, 2016 02:24 PM (qUNWi)

You a calculus student?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 10, 2016 02:26 PM (kpqmD)

928 But the EPA scared the crap out of people so now they are all worried about Radon Gas.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 02:22 PM (39g3+)

Oh hell, the list of bullshit scares must be in the hundreds.....

DDT
Lead
Alar
Roundup
Electromagnetic energy
Saccharine
BPA
GMOs
.
.
.
.
.It would be fun to compile that list.

Posted by: Rick Wilson at February 10, 2016 02:26 PM (Zu3d9)

929 The fear is it "may" be carcinogenic.

The link for radon and lung cancer seems strong, others not so much.

the key thing is exposure, so unless you're living in the unventilated basement for hours each day/night, it really isnt an issue.

Posted by: McCool at February 10, 2016 02:26 PM (nCSwS)

930 OregonMuse: I sense another "big thread" happening.

Did you cheat and look in the queue?

Still just this ol' thread, after my break for a delicious lunch. Going for #1000 again?

Posted by: mindful webworker - satedly at February 10, 2016 02:27 PM (K/p7v)

931 insomniac CLEAR!

whoosh CLEAR whoosh.

,

doo doo doo doo doo dooo do do do
do do do do do do doo... don' worry be happy

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:27 PM (9XzdI)

932 Those trees on the river bank are going to fall in in about 2 years. Especially the one on the right.

Too close to the bank.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 10, 2016 02:27 PM (Xo1Rt)

933 And "shall not be infringed" has been ignored since 1934.
That's a long time to fix it.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 02:27 PM (Y42RP)

934 Or

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 02:27 PM (OrI3J)

935 This thread has been open for over 4 hours. Take it to the ER!

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 10, 2016 02:25 PM (kpqmD)


Synagogues have the eternal flame. AoS has the eternal open art thread.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 02:27 PM (zc3Db)

936 "I think most underestimate the value of a guy like Trump having real life experience "swimming with the sharks", where his own business is on the line"

THIS

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 02:28 PM (OGdXd)

937 This is still up?

Did Ace get so depressed he can't get out of bed?

Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at February 10, 2016 02:28 PM (3ZtZW)

938 do do do do do do doo... don' worry be happy


I'm afraid I'm good at neither of those.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 10, 2016 02:28 PM (kpqmD)

939 sorry ,i tried; threats, epithets, tears do not appear to work anymore.

I seem to have inherited the curse lately. Give me a moment to come up with something pithy and pertinent, we'll be off to the nood in notime.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 10, 2016 02:28 PM (9krrF)

940 But the EPA scared the crap out of people so now they are all worried about Radon Gas.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 02:22 PM (39g3+)

----

Missouri.... to its credit.... shitcanned Radon regs.

There are so many codes that are on the books because somebody invented something and convinced the govt to create a captive market for their product.

See also: Arc fault protection, water heater pressure tanks, Radon evacuation systems, pipe wrap, low VOC paints, child proof outlets, etc etc

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 02:28 PM (8XRCm)

941 pew -pew!
Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:14 PM (9XzdI)

Willow. You have powers, not super-powers.
You need to actually have something to say, THEN the magic happens.

Posted by: OneEyedJack (Of Spades, naturally) at February 10, 2016 02:28 PM (kKHcp)

942 There is no political document or political system that can peacefully unite a group of people not only as diverse but outright hostile to each others agendas as the contemporary American public.

We're not even a two-party country anymore ... as shown in these comments daily.

Either we peacefully go our separate ways ... or we fight it out in the streets.

Posted by: Irony at February 10, 2016 02:28 PM (BHaRb)

943 I'd rather take a scalpel and a chainsaw to the federal budget, for openers.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2016 02:21 PM (r1fLd)

Yeah, man, I saw that flick. Dude with the hammer and the saw was like, I dunno, wearing a human face like a maskon his face and shit. These ladies in the seats behind me were like, 'Don't open the door! Don't go in the house! Get outta the house! I told you! I told you!'

*makes chainsaw sound*

It was wild, man...good times...wait...what were we talkin about?

Posted by: That Stoner Dude You Knew From High School at February 10, 2016 02:28 PM (WuTfJ)

944 Oh hell, the list of bullshit scares must be in the hundreds.....

.It would be fun to compile that list.

Posted by: Rick Wilson at February 10, 2016 02:26 PM (Zu3d9)


Lawn darts. I can't believe it's illegal to even sell used sets now.

Posted by: RickZ at February 10, 2016 02:28 PM (Ix+HS)

945 Pinning hopes on an Article V convention is like praying for a deus ex machina. I'd rather take a scalpel and a chainsaw to the federal budget, for openers.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2016 02:21 PM (r1fLd)

You've got it completely backwards. The president has certain powers and he is not a dictator. The minute Trump or Cruz over steps his bounds their enemies in the House and Senate will write up articles of impeachment and remove them. Skin color won't save a Trump for Cruz like it did obama. Article V on the other hand gives the power to amend the Constitution without Congress and the other to branches interfering. George Mason foresaw this at the drafting of the Constitution and he was right. We are at a point when the federal gov't no longer listens to we the people.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 02:29 PM (UnJ7w)

946 London

it has great places to eat, but they're not for commoners

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 02:29 PM (OGdXd)

947 This thread has been open for over 4 hours. Take it to the ER!

Bob Dole agrees!

Posted by: Bob Dole at February 10, 2016 02:29 PM (NF2Bf)

948 Live Get Lots of Shit Free or Die!

Posted by: BernieBro at February 10, 2016 02:29 PM (UzPAd)

949 Dr. McCoy to the bridge, please.

Posted by: eman at February 10, 2016 02:29 PM (mR7Es)

950 troyriser great rec on the Seecamp. People who've fired .32 all seem to adore .32

rb we should fight over whether it's a kari/banzai trollfighting ticket or a banzai/kari trollfighting ticket.

Either way, if we could get trolls into a steel cage WWE style I'd welcome them all to the 'Q.

Getting into a streetfight with a horde of morons is only good for the viewers at home.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 02:29 PM (xuouz)

951 Or we can just give in and begin the push towards 1000.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 10, 2016 02:30 PM (9krrF)

952 let's see what the next Pres can do before going all Article V

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 02:30 PM (OGdXd)

953 Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2016 02:14 PM (/tuJf)

I go with my wife to her reunions (maniacal alums...you can guess which school), and the majority of her peers are intelligent and interesting people.

But there is a sizable minority that are, to put it kindly, knuckle-dragging, booger-eating retards.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2016 02:30 PM (Zu3d9)

954 You a calculus student?


Calcoolis.

Posted by: eleven at February 10, 2016 02:30 PM (qUNWi)

955 maybe this will do it..
i'm sure everyone will notice i have dyed my hair. no-no, not a flattering color, but deep red, now i resemble a redhead with a red hued face.

this does not flatter at all.

but i'm going to leave it for the day and jump on aces bed so he will believe a tomato head attacked him in his dreams.

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:30 PM (9XzdI)

956 do do do
da da da
is all I want to say to you

Posted by: Sting at February 10, 2016 02:30 PM (VCuI5)

957 "My English girlfriend bought me dinner from a chippy shop (fish and
chips wrapped in newspaper) in the Liverpool area in 1983. The grease
the stuff was fried in reeked. It was very rancid. She couldn't figure
out what I was complaining about."

That's part of the great British culinary tradition right there. They never decant the old oil out of the fryers. They just top up as needed.

I'm told that goes back to wartime rationing, but even by the 1960s, when food stocks had became far more abundant, these cheap chippie operators had learned that the clientele would still choke down the food cooked in nasty used oil.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 10, 2016 02:30 PM (noWW6)

958 The Nation has a hit piece on HRC

http://bit.ly/1KFcR57

naturally

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 02:30 PM (OGdXd)

959 The link for radon and lung cancer seems strong, others not so much.

Its very difficult to breathe the stuff, since it seeps from the ground and is heavier than air. Plus, the studies that seem to indicate cancer were done in a low ventilation crappy mine in the 50s, so...

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 02:30 PM (39g3+)

960 Lawnmower gas cans. The regs were written by someone who's never used a gas can.

Posted by: Furious George at February 10, 2016 02:31 PM (3GAnN)

961 920 Oregon, darn it, but you post so well.
we need new ace rules and regs set up.
Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:25 PM (9XzdI)


Thank you for your kind words, but I can see the logic in this. There are so many of us with 'Open Blogger' access that this blog might get swamped during the weekdays if ace opens it up to all of us unrestrictedly.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 02:31 PM (maOV6)

962
All I want in life is paint stripper than actually strips paint.

And I want phosphates back in my detergent.


Anything that says "environmentally friendly" usually doesnt work for shit.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 02:31 PM (8XRCm)

963
I'm Henry the eighth I am
Henry the eighth I am, I am
I got married to the widow next door
She's been married seven times before
And every one was an Henry (Henry)
She wouldn't have a Willy or a Sam (no Sam)
I'm her eighth old man, I'm Henry
Henry the eighth I am

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at February 10, 2016 02:32 PM (evdj2)

964 Article V on the other hand gives the power to amend the Constitution without Congress and the other to branches interfering.

Point of order: They're ignoring it now. What on God's green Earth makes you think they won't just ignore the changes?

It's like responding to someone breaking the law with agitating for more laws. Only hobbles the honest...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 10, 2016 02:32 PM (9krrF)

965 But the EPA scared the crap out of people so now they are all worried about Radon Gas.>>>

Don't think the EPA got involved but there was a brief MSM scare about radiation from granite counters IIRC.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 10, 2016 02:32 PM (XtAzU)

966 My good friend Jeb Bush is gonna win South Carolina. I don't care how many voters I gotta blow.
Posted by: Lindsey Graham at February 10, 2016 02:21 PM (OZmbA)

If Kasich and Graham were superglued into a 69 would they constitute a fucked up perpetual motion machine?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 02:32 PM (xuouz)

967 Breaking: Burger King announces they are going national with their grilled Hot Dogs.

WHOOT!!!!!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 10, 2016 02:32 PM (oYxux)

968 You need to actually have something to say, THEN the magic happens.
Posted by: OneEyedJack (Of Spades, naturally) at February 10, 2016 02:28 PM (kKHcp)

er Jack, haha, I have something of value to say?

nah that's not my shtick. i just add inanity and hopefully a silly laugh at times.

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:32 PM (9XzdI)

969 Posted by: RickZ at February 10, 2016 02:28 PM (Ix+HS)

Are you serious?

I....no!....FVCK!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2016 02:32 PM (Zu3d9)

970 Is this blog on?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Ashes, Sackcloth, Woe and Despair! Election and Lenten Specials at the Outrage Outlet! at February 10, 2016 02:32 PM (hLRSq)

971 Its very difficult to breathe the stuff, since it seeps from the ground and is heavier than air.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 02:30 PM (39g3+)


That's why Congress decided to ban push-ups in basement areas. FOR THE CHILDREN!!!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 02:32 PM (zc3Db)

972 Hillary's email scandal is getting deeper. At least a dozen and perhaps as many as 30 people accessed top security information on Hillary's server.

Patrick Kennedy, the guy who was supposed to be in charge of security in Benghazi, testified to Congress that he didn't know the scope of Hillary's email but the emails showed he talked all the time to Hillary on her private email.

Fox News.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2016 02:32 PM (/tuJf)

973 Calcoolis.

Posted by: eleven


Mul-ti-pass?

Posted by: Leeloo at February 10, 2016 02:33 PM (NF2Bf)

974 so the chip shops run on oil recycled from the 60s

yum

I shiver to think what the Irish have done -- but I've had great meals in Dublin

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 02:33 PM (OGdXd)

975 Lawnmower gas cans. The regs were written by someone who's never usedseen a gas can.

Posted by: Furious George at February 10, 2016 02:31 PM (3GAnN)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 10, 2016 02:33 PM (Xo1Rt)

976 Lawnmower gas cans. The regs were written by someone who's never used a gas can.
Posted by: Furious George at February 10, 2016 02:31 PM (3GAnN)

----

THIS!!!!! I recently went to replace a gas can I had owned since we were first married.

First off.... a gas can is now $25.00???? And that spring loaded thingy at the end does what????

Dribble gas all over my hot mower.


Fucking lawyers.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 02:33 PM (8XRCm)

977
And "shall not be infringed" has been ignored since 1934.
That's a long time to fix it.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 02:27 PM (Y42RP)








I keep wondering if the Founders should have phrased it "shall not be infringed, motherfuckers....under pain of death."

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 10, 2016 02:33 PM (smLWk)

978 The president simply can't roll back all of this progressive change. The 10th Amendment will have to have a renaissance.
-------
And how that will affect (beyond the margins possibly) crumbling infrastructure, anti-American education, anti-traditional media, and corporate tax exemptions (tied in with increased infrastructure costs) is unclear. And what does that actually mean regarding immigration policy?

Posted by: RioBravo at February 10, 2016 02:33 PM (NUqwG)

979 "I want phosphates back in my detergent"

you can buy them separately, but yeah

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 02:34 PM (OGdXd)

980 Quick! Quick! To a thousand! The ewok stirs!

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 02:34 PM (xuouz)

981 I want to get 999
999 is the new 666!

Posted by: @votermom at February 10, 2016 02:34 PM (cbfNE)

982 It's sort of got a musty smell to it. Like mold. Black mold.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Ashes, Sackcloth, Woe and Despair! Election and Lenten Specials at the Outrage Outlet! at February 10, 2016 02:34 PM (hLRSq)

983 It would be fun to compile that list.

Word.

Posted by: Plant Food at February 10, 2016 02:34 PM (NF2Bf)

984 WTF?Somebody wake up ace!

Posted by: steevy at February 10, 2016 02:34 PM (B48dK)

985 If the Ewok is stirring that can only mean...


waffles!

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Ashes, Sackcloth, Woe and Despair! Election and Lenten Specials at the Outrage Outlet! at February 10, 2016 02:34 PM (hLRSq)

986 don't cryyyyy, you're not alone.

don't cryyy my baby, my baby..
(seal)
hey, i can do this all day Ace.

better wake up!

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:34 PM (9XzdI)

987 Can I get chili on those BK hot dogs? And chili cheese fries?

Posted by: Bjorn Bjigski at February 10, 2016 02:35 PM (VCuI5)

988 Is she single? Does she have a hot date? Are you maybe going to get a new daddy out of the deal?:-P

Posted by: redbanzai
------------
Ha!
Nope. at 78, she's outlived two already, and gave up on that years ago.
Well probably go out tomorrow or Friday - and maybe even see Deadpool.

Posted by: Chi at February 10, 2016 02:35 PM (OUpHg)

989 does Ace have a policy against 1k?

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 02:35 PM (OGdXd)

990 Posted by: Furious George at February 10, 2016 02:31 PM (3GAnN)

There are Youtube videos about how to fix them.

One day I will walk up to the regulator who decided that a vessel designed to hold and dispense a liquid is safer without a vent to equalize pressure, and ask him why he is so stupid.

Then I will punch him in the mouth.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2016 02:35 PM (Zu3d9)

991 Don't think the EPA got involved

You must have missed the ad that showed people turning into skeletons from the Ad Council.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 02:35 PM (39g3+)

992 Lawnmower gas cans. The regs were written by someone who's never used a gas can.

Posted by: Furious George at February 10, 2016 02:31 PM (3GAnN)

there are easy instructions on how to modify new gas cans so as to make them usable... strictly for informational purposes and clearly marked to let people know it is illegal to modify new gas cans so as to make them usable (and how freaking ridiculous is that?)

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 02:35 PM (OrI3J)

993 What part of "shall not be infringed" is so difficult to understand?

The "shall", the "not", or the "infringed"?
Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 02:25 PM (Y42RP)

There is no option for action by the States in that. For example you pass an amendment that gives the States the power to withhold collection of taxes to the federal gov't unless a balanced budget is passed every year. How then could this be ignored? If the States flat out refuse to collect and send the money and it's totally legal then how can the federal gov't "ignore" this?

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 02:35 PM (UnJ7w)

994 drive a nail through the gas can top

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 02:36 PM (OGdXd)

995 Lawnmower gas cans. The regs were written by someone who's never used a gas can.



WTF is CAFE standards? I'm not in California and my gas can never fucking will be and if any Moron sees me in California, you have my permission to shoot me on sight.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 02:36 PM (Y42RP)

996 @957 I commend this place to your attention:

http://www.lochfyneseafoodandgrill.co.uk/locations/london-city


The fish and chips are yummy!

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 10, 2016 02:36 PM (bpn7O)

997 Ace is still waiting for final NH numbers to see if Cruz pulled it out.

A couple boxes of ballots were found in some trunk with a dead hobo this morning, and there are hanging chads everywhere. so, still some hope.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 10, 2016 02:36 PM (5Gpe2)

998 Was that really Rick Wilson or a sock?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 02:36 PM (xuouz)

999 960
Lawnmower gas cans. The regs were written by someone who's never used a gas can.

Posted by: Furious George at February 10, 2016 02:31 PM
~~~
And put the country's largest manufacturer of gas cans out of business. Saw it on one of Stossel's specials.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 10, 2016 02:36 PM (E6RIJ)

1000 Did you cheat and look in the queue?

Still just this ol' thread, after my break for a delicious lunch. Going for #1000 again?

Posted by: mindful webworker - satedly at February 10, 2016 02:27 PM (K/p7v)


Yeah, I'm still not seeing anything in the queue.

But I think ace composes his stuff mostly offline, uploads it to pixy and then boom, it's published. Total time in queue: 3 seconds.

So, as far as I know, ace could be putting the finishing touches on what will be known as the Best Blog Post Evah.

Or, he could still be passed out.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 02:36 PM (maOV6)

1001 how many of us are rooting for VW?

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 02:36 PM (OGdXd)

1002 fk it.

ok i'm going to LEAVE and finish cooking dinner.

(never know what might work)

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:36 PM (9XzdI)

1003 David "Basil Dave" Brooks. Basil Dave is the perfect nickname.

Posted by: rdbrewer at February 10, 2016 02:37 PM (Iyg03)

1004 drive a nail through the gas can top

*shrieks*

*faints*

Posted by: EPA Bureaucrat at February 10, 2016 02:37 PM (NF2Bf)

1005 Rickb223 @ 865- carrry gun?
This very minute I am wearing jeans, teeshirt, and fleece jacket. Carrying a Glock G43 on my belt right side in Allen slide, and a Ruger LCR .357 on my left ankle in WRB ankle holster. Nobody would ever know if I didn't say. Oh yeah, a Kershaw Ken Onion folder in right front pocket. ETEX, baby!

Posted by: Eromero at February 10, 2016 02:37 PM (zLDYs)

1006 It appears we are approaching...a Grim Milestone.

Posted by: tu3031 at February 10, 2016 02:37 PM (YFFpo)

1007 Ha ha! 1000, bitchez!!

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 02:37 PM (maOV6)

1008 Here:

I get the new spouts that have an actual handle lever because the ones with just a lip aren't good to convert.

Get inside and remove the stops for the lever.

NOW you have a decent spout and can use the lever to meter gas.

Also buy some clear tubing that matches the nozzle and you now have a useful gas spout.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 10, 2016 02:37 PM (Xo1Rt)

1009 964
Article V on the other hand gives the power to amend the Constitution without Congress and the other to branches interfering.



Point of order: They're ignoring it now. What on God's green Earth makes you think they won't just ignore the changes?



It's like responding to someone breaking the law with agitating for more laws. Only hobbles the honest...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 10, 2016 02:32 PM (9krrF)


If it is amended according to my plan they will not be able to ignore it. I would control of the amendment process and appointment of judges back to the States and provide for recall of any official in Washington by their home States or a national vote.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 10, 2016 02:37 PM (t2KH5)

1010 Are you serious?

I....no!....FVCK!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2016 02:32 PM (Zu3d9)


I saw a recent episode of 'Garage Gold' where they found a set still in the original box in someone's garage. The show's appraiser stated it was illegal to even sell them. Shocked the shit out of me. Kids today simply have no idea how to live dangerously, hence their damned 'safe spaces'. Half the crap I did as a kid is probably banned, and I know for certain my Mom would be arrested for child abuse as I was a latch key kid (for about 2 hours a day after school) before the term even existed. Even cleaned my .22 rifle in my bedroom when I was alone in the house.

Posted by: RickZ at February 10, 2016 02:38 PM (Ix+HS)

1011 Ha!

Nope. at 78, she's outlived two already, and gave up on that years ago.

Well probably go out tomorrow or Friday - and maybe even see Deadpool.

Posted by: Chi at February 10, 2016 02:35 PM (OUpHg)

Cool! You can let us know whether Deadpool is worth the cost of movie tickets before I would be laying the cash down.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 02:38 PM (OrI3J)

1012 1001 how many of us are rooting for VW?
Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 02:36 PM (OGdXd)

I am. I don't care that they gamed the system because the system is fucking bullshit.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 10, 2016 02:38 PM (kpqmD)

1013 Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 02:36 PM (xuouz)

My sock. And a stinky, assholish, pompous dickhead of a sock it was.

[hint...I don't think much of Wilson]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2016 02:38 PM (Zu3d9)

1014 Vic, you woulda been a Founder.

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 02:38 PM (OGdXd)

1015 Also buy some clear tubing that matches the nozzle and you now have a useful gas spout.

---

This.

I am a criminal now.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 02:39 PM (8XRCm)

1016 Coming up next: On the Road to 1500!

Posted by: tu3031 at February 10, 2016 02:39 PM (YFFpo)

1017 *imagines willow with red hair, flushed from exertion*

yeah, that's not bad


Lawn darts. I can't believe it's illegal to even sell used sets now.


This one actually, I can see. I couldn't believe the darn things were legal to begin with.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 02:39 PM (39g3+)

1018 you're probably a criminal in ways you haven't even considered

too many laws, too many regs...

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 02:39 PM (OGdXd)

1019 this does not flatter at all.

but i'm going to leave it for the day and jump on aces bed so he will believe a tomato head attacked him in his dreams.

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:30 PM (9XzdI)

Dear me. I color my hair, but it's the same color my hair was naturally 25 years ago, blondish brown. I was tempted to go ginger but my hairdresser advised me not too. "It's trickier to pull off than you think. If you don't have the right skin tone - and you don't, your skintone has too much red - it'll look terrible."

So I stayed my boring blondish brown self.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 02:39 PM (u0lmX)

1020 Holy mackerel. The Lying Hag got trounced by Bernie in NH but was able to abscond with the same number of delegates due to a corrupt primary system?

Posted by: Marcus T at February 10, 2016 02:39 PM (GGCsk)

1021 If VW didn't violate the rules then I don't see that the Gov can do much about it and VW has the lawyers to match.

This is what happens when lawyers make laws. They leave the important stuff out and then whine when someone detects the loophole.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 10, 2016 02:40 PM (Xo1Rt)

1022 Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 02:36 PM (maOV6)

Check again.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2016 02:40 PM (Zu3d9)

1023 [hint...I don't think much of Wilson]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2016 02:38 PM (Zu3d9)

I love the guy. I always read his tweets between bouts of feverishly masturbating to episodes of Geikaijin Damakasune Katsuke Mei

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 02:40 PM (xuouz)

1024 Hubby musta seen some radon ad. He came home with a radon test kit a few months ago.
I said, we tested for radon back when we bought the house (more than 15 years ago).
He said so do you just test once in a lifetime?
Me: is the bedrock under our house gonna change?

Posted by: @votermom at February 10, 2016 02:41 PM (cbfNE)

1025 Half the crap I did as a kid is probably banned, and I know for certain my Mom would be arrested for child abuse as I was a latch key kid (for about 2 hours a day after school) before the term even existed. Even cleaned my .22 rifle in my bedroom when I was alone in the house.
Posted by: RickZ at February 10, 2016 02:38 PM (Ix+HS)


We bought a set of lawn darts 25 years ago, the kind with the metal tips. And now, as you pointed out, they're illegal. Illegal!

We still have them. And they'll have to pry them from my cold, dead fingers.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 02:41 PM (maOV6)

1026 The company that made cheap and usable gas cans obviously were not supporting the right candidate, or they were not a union shop. It's like Gibson Guitar only worse.

New ones I got don't even vent ... gurgle gurgle. And the spring loaded valve is hard to use on a chainsaw, without spilling. I take the whole spout of usually.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 10, 2016 02:41 PM (5Gpe2)

1027 Wow, no Ace?

Posted by: donna at February 10, 2016 02:41 PM (/dSsq)

1028 There is no option for action by the States in that. For example you pass an amendment that gives the States the power to withhold collection of taxes to the federal gov't unless a balanced budget is passed every year. How then could this be ignored? If the States flat out refuse to collect and send the money and it's totally legal then how can the federal gov't "ignore" this?



All those students butts in seats? Money doesn't come back down to the schools. Roads? Nope. Sorry. Not getting built. Community Policing? Nope. Make up the lost revenue from tickets. No fed funds will be forthcoming.

No. You need TEETH. Summary drumhead executions on the spot when someone breaks the Constitution or an Article V Amendment or they will just ignore it as they do now.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 02:41 PM (Y42RP)

1029 A couple boxes of ballots were found in some trunk with a dead hobo this morning, and there are hanging chads everywhere. so, still some hope.

Those were all for Hillary though.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 02:41 PM (39g3+)

1030 999 960
Lawnmower gas cans. The regs were written by someone who's never used a gas can.

Posted by: Furious George at February 10, 2016 02:31 PM
~~~
And put the country's largest manufacturer of gas cans out of business. Saw it on one of Stossel's specials.
Posted by: IrishEi at February 10, 2016 02:36 PM (E6RIJ)

______

And doubled the price for gas cans.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 02:41 PM (0LHZx)

1031 Lawn darts helped make sure that the slower dumber kids didn't reproduce. They were good for the health of the species.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2016 02:41 PM (8ZskC)

1032 "Is this blog on?"




On what, exactly?

Posted by: Piercello at February 10, 2016 02:41 PM (RXfvh)

1033 982 It's sort of got a musty smell to it. Like mold. Black mold.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Ashes, Sackcloth, Woe and Despair! Election and Lenten Specials at the Outrage Outlet! at February 10, 2016 02:34 PM (hLRSq)


No, this thread smells like a British cook has fried it in rancid grease.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 02:41 PM (u0lmX)

1034 Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 02:39 PM (u0lmX)

Yeah.....I kept my color, although I think the dye i use is defective because I keep getting more and more gray!

I think I'll sue.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2016 02:41 PM (Zu3d9)

1035 Donna, uh hmm, i'm a dark brunette, i should never have fallen for the go ginger deal.

i Hate it.

Hate It!

it's gone by the morrow.

we're all not meant to bed a red.

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:42 PM (9XzdI)

1036 Beyonce essentially turned her SB appearance into a new single promotion party.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2016 02:11 PM
(NOIQH)

From what Shibumi was saying, that is *exactly* what it was. The people she used to work with are the ones who were responsible for the halftime show and apparently they picked acts that needed a boost for their new releases coming out soon.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 10, 2016 02:42 PM (GDulk)

1037 If it is amended according to my plan they will not be able to ignore it. I would control of the amendment process and appointment of judges back to the States and provide for recall of any official in Washington by their home States or a national vote.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 10, 2016 02:37 PM (t2KH5)


Wonderful, this is what I'm trying to articulate! The States could certainly put the burden of of following the law on the federal gov't and enforcement and doling out punishment to the States.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 02:42 PM (UnJ7w)

1038 The easiest fix for the new cans it to take a drill bit and work it BY HAND into the back top of the can. By hand so you don't put a bunch of plastic into the can.

Insert wood screw, or golf tee.

Posted by: OneEyedJack (Of Spades, naturally) at February 10, 2016 02:42 PM (kKHcp)

1039 does Ace have a policy against 1k?
Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 02:35 PM (OGdXd)

I'm assuming no, since this happens three times a week.

Love you big man!

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 02:43 PM (xuouz)

1040 About that Article V convention. California had a voter-approved referendum, that would have prohibited paying welfare benefits to Illegals, overturned by a federal district court. The fix was in, so this decision wasn't appealed. So the state and its municipalities have been forced to make payments on account of people who shouldn't be here, except that the Feds won't act to deport them. Whence California has gone down the road it has. A similar thing happened with gay marriage. Remind me again why you think an Article V convention is the answer?

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2016 02:43 PM (r1fLd)

1041 er,* be *a red.

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:43 PM (9XzdI)

1042 We bought a set of lawn darts 25 years ago, the kind with the metal tips. And now, as you pointed out, they're illegal. Illegal!



You haven't lived until you've pinned a cousin to the ground with one of them!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 02:43 PM (Y42RP)

1043 Allow me to mansplain something to you, you old Bitch. You're Done! Ya hear? DONE! You and your rapist husband!

Posted by: BernieBro at February 10, 2016 02:43 PM (UzPAd)

1044 I can't believe this place. Most blogs post 1-3 times a day, and people freak out here if an hour goes by without something new to ignore and start commenting about exactly the same stuff on.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 02:43 PM (39g3+)

1045 I couldn't believe the darn things were legal to begin with.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 02:39 PM (39g3+)


You're probably one of those people who are all for electronic dartboards, too.

Surviving childhood is supposed to be a challenge. Builds character.

Posted by: RickZ at February 10, 2016 02:43 PM (Ix+HS)

1046 bl.

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:44 PM (9XzdI)

1047 Check again.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2016 02:40 PM (Zu3d9)


I'm still not seeing anything.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 02:44 PM (maOV6)

1048 Huh. Only gray I see reliably is in beard and 'stache. Scalp hair stays brown.

Mind you the double crown poses its own challenges...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 10, 2016 02:44 PM (9krrF)

1049 I'm a ginger now coz my scalp can't handle regular dye so I use henna.

Posted by: @votermom at February 10, 2016 02:44 PM (cbfNE)

1050 er,* be *a red.
Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:43 PM (9XzdI)

No! No I liked it better the other way!

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 02:45 PM (xuouz)

1051
You haven't lived until you've pinned a cousin to the ground with one of them!


Like Jeff Foxworthy said, take one of those in the top of your head, and you're getting coloring books for Christmas for the rest of your life.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 02:45 PM (39g3+)

1052 I see between my writing back at 750 and ending up posting at #930, my snarky inquiry was covered.

Think I'll go read a book.

Posted by: mindful webworker - belatedly at February 10, 2016 02:46 PM (K/p7v)

1053 If lawn darts are illegal then I can't imagine a ban on darts is far behind. Fred Upton will write a bill that forces everyone to switch to those shitty velcro darts, which will be federally subsidized to help rid us of the metal dart menace.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 02:46 PM (zc3Db)

1054 No. You need TEETH. Summary drumhead executions on the spot when someone breaks the Constitution or an Article V Amendment or they will just ignore it as they do now.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 02:41 PM (Y42RP)

Withholding money from the fed gov't is TEETH. The gov't has no revenue stream other than collecting it from the States. You honestly believe the States can't repair their own roads and educate their own children with out interference from the gov't. You are twisting yourself into a pretzel arguing the States can't fend for themselves.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 02:46 PM (UnJ7w)

1055 This is what happens when lawyers make laws. They leave the important stuff out and then whine when someone detects the loophole.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 10, 2016 02:40 PM (Xo1Rt)
-------
Small local governments usually don't let the verbiage of ordnances get in the way. The relevant commission/board will just ask the city attorney to say that it means whatever they want it to. They are usually on the side of the local entity that can afford lawyers anyway so it all works out. There are often pesky local yokels (who don't understand the needs of free enterprise) drawing up petitions in favor of plain-language interpretations of the ordnances, but they are easily ignored.

Posted by: RioBravo at February 10, 2016 02:46 PM (NUqwG)

1056 Are slingshots still legal?

Posted by: @votermom at February 10, 2016 02:46 PM (cbfNE)

1057 1020
Holy mackerel. The Lying Hag got trounced by Bernie in NH but was able
to abscond with the same number of delegates due to a corrupt primary
system?


Posted by: Marcus T at February 10, 2016 02:39 PM (GGCsk)

Scankles has all the super delegates.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 10, 2016 02:46 PM (t2KH5)

1058 I keep wondering if the Founders should have phrased it "shall not be infringed, motherfuckers....under pain of death."

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 10, 2016 02:33 PM


That was actually in the first draft....Madison, using a quill pen & with great flair, started the Bill of Rights with "English, motherfvckers! Doest thou speak it?"

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 10, 2016 02:47 PM (ZQfW9)

1059 You haven't lived until you've pinned a cousin to the ground with one of them!
Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 02:43 PM (Y42RP)

-----

We used to play chicken with bow and arrows. Shoot an arrow straight up in the air. First one to move losses.

BB gun fights.

Roman Candle wars.

Did you know it IS possible to extinguish a match into a coffee can of gasoline.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 02:47 PM (8XRCm)

1060 1030
999 960

Lawnmower gas cans. The regs were written by someone who's never used a gas can.



Posted by: Furious George at February 10, 2016 02:31 PM

~~~

And put the country's largest manufacturer of gas cans out of business. Saw it on one of Stossel's specials.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 10, 2016 02:36 PM (E6RIJ)



______



And doubled the price for gas cans.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 02:41 PM (0LHZx)


Force them to receive graft from a gas can and see how easy they are to operate.

Posted by: rebel flounder at February 10, 2016 02:47 PM (3dOE/)

1061 Ah. Over 1000. This is so much fun. We should do it more often.

Posted by: Soona at February 10, 2016 02:47 PM (Fmupd)

1062 Afternoon all. Was on Duty this AM, then took the wife and youngin for lunch. A seafood joint, which they had not been to and is very good, and they liked it....so they are not mad at me today.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2016 02:47 PM (DUoqb)

1063
You're probably one of those people who are all for electronic dartboards, too.


Nobody is gonna die from a dart thrown by a kid across a room. Might take an eye out, but not die.

But someone launching a 3 pound metal dart into the air, hopefully toward a circle? That's just asking for trouble. I mean... I'm all for kids taking risks and learning, but I wouldn't hand them jugs of nitro either. Really there has to be a line somewhere.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 02:47 PM (39g3+)

1064 1040 About that Article V convention. California had a voter-approved referendum, that would have prohibited paying welfare benefits to Illegals, overturned by a federal district court. The fix was in, so this decision wasn't appealed. So the state and its municipalities have been forced to make payments on account of people who shouldn't be here, except that the Feds won't act to deport them. Whence California has gone down the road it has. A similar thing happened with gay marriage. Remind me again why you think an Article V convention is the answer?
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2016 02:43 PM (r1fLd)

_____

Both of those court decisions were made on the basis that the laws are unconstitutional. But if the constitution itself says X, even the most loonie left court can't say, no X is unconstitutional.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 02:48 PM (0LHZx)

1065 I can't believe this place. Most blogs post 1-3 times a day, and people freak out here if an hour goes by without something new to ignore and start commenting about exactly the same stuff on.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 02:43 PM (39g3+)

I found lawn darts in my grandmother's garage when I was little. My cousin and I played a really fun game with them: the throw them in the air and get out of the way game. Hours of enjoyment. But we mysteriously couldn't find them the next day.

I've told this story before too haha.

Guns->crossbows->millenials->water tanks->old cars->bear rape->female leftist public figure of the month->lawn darts->guns

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 02:48 PM (xuouz)

1066 998 Was that really Rick Wilson or a sock?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 02:36 PM (xuouz)


Sock.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 02:48 PM (maOV6)

1067 "we're all not meant to bed a red."

---

To the eternal dismay of most 'rons here.

Posted by: SMFH at February 10, 2016 02:49 PM (rlfds)

1068
Donna, uh hmm, i'm a dark brunette, i should never have fallen for the go ginger deal.



i Hate it.



Hate It!



it's gone by the morrow.



we're all not meant to bed a red.

Posted by: willow at February 10, 2016 02:42 PM (9XzdI)


I was born a ginger and fought for my gingerhood until the silver was too prominent to hide. Gingers rule! (In their own unique soul-less way).
Your hairdresser is right, Donna. You need to be vampire pale to completely see through translucent to look good with red hair.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 02:49 PM (OrI3J)

1069 We used to play chicken with bow and arrows. Shoot an arrow straight up in the air. First one to move losses.

BB gun fights.

Roman Candle wars.


Every 4th of July an entire year's worth of ship and plane models would fall victim to firecrackers and M80s. Some of my sister's Barbies got it too.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2016 02:49 PM (8ZskC)

1070 It was very rancid.
That's what the vinegar is for. (Although I prefer white to malt vinegar.)

Posted by: andycanuck at February 10, 2016 02:49 PM (WOyz5)

1071 The company that made cheap and usable gas cans obviously were not supporting the right candidate, or they were not a union shop. It's like Gibson Guitar only worse.

New ones I got don't even vent ... gurgle gurgle. And the spring loaded valve is hard to use on a chainsaw, without spilling. I take the whole spout of usually.



You can get semi professional metal gas cans at Northern for about $75.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 02:50 PM (Y42RP)

1072 Slingshots with a pistol grip, twenty round storage in the handle, and a wrist brace. In black, no less.
All it needs is the thing that goes up.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 10, 2016 02:50 PM (oYxux)

1073 So I'm planning my dinner tonight.

What beer pairs well with a TV dinner and a broken marriage?

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 10, 2016 02:50 PM (PFy0L)

1074 But someone launching a 3 pound metal dart into the air, hopefully toward a circle? That's just asking for trouble. I mean... I'm all for kids taking risks and learning, but I wouldn't hand them jugs of nitro either. Really there has to be a line somewhere.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 02:47 PM (39g3+)


Lawn darts and nitro ... that's not a line between them, that's a fucking ocean.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 02:50 PM (zc3Db)

1075 1056 Are slingshots still legal?

Posted by: @votermom at February 10, 2016 02:46 PM (cbfNE)

Depends on the state.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 02:50 PM (/CXhS)

1076 What beer pairs well with a TV dinner and a broken marriage?
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 10, 2016 02:50 PM (PFy0L)

----

Schlitz

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 02:51 PM (8XRCm)

1077 What beer pairs well with a TV dinner and a broken marriage?
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 10, 2016 02:50 PM (PFy0L)

Rolling Rock?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2016 02:51 PM (DUoqb)

1078 But someone launching a 3 pound metal dart into the air, hopefully toward a circle? That's just asking for trouble.

I would argue strongly against this line of thinking, but there are good reasons my friends and family no longer allow me to handle fireworks of any stripe. So, yeah.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 10, 2016 02:51 PM (9krrF)

1079 "What beer pairs well with a TV dinner and a broken marriage?"

---

Corona worked well for me.

Posted by: SMFH at February 10, 2016 02:51 PM (rlfds)

1080 "Really there has to be a line somewhere."

so true:

draw a line on the grass, and have all the kids stand behind it

then throw the lawn darts

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 02:51 PM (OGdXd)

1081 Some of my sister's Barbies got it too.

Hehe...damn straight

Posted by: GI Joe at February 10, 2016 02:51 PM (BrQrN)

1082 Iron City

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at February 10, 2016 02:51 PM (Xo1Rt)

1083 Red hair on women is amazing, I have no clue why women seem to want to fight it or don't like their red hair. but women always seem to hate their own hair for some bizarre reason.

Its probably related to how every woman looks in the mirror and sees Helen Thomas, and every man looks in the mirror and figures he's 3 situps from being Channing Tatum.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 02:51 PM (39g3+)

1084 Willow got her hair dyed? Didn't even notice.

Posted by: Guys Notice Tits at February 10, 2016 02:51 PM (6OLDV)

1085 What beer pairs well with a TV dinner and a broken marriage?

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 10, 2016 02:50 PM (PFy0L)


PBR, drank ironically.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2016 02:51 PM (8ZskC)

1086 But if the constitution itself says X, even the most loonie left court can't say, no X is unconstitutional.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 02:48 PM (0LHZx)


Yeah, you'd think so, but I remember hearing not too long ago that a California court threw out a proposed constitutional amendment because they ruled that it was unconstitutional. I'm not sure how they managed to square that circle.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 02:52 PM (maOV6)

1087 Raging Bitch IPA

Posted by: nckate at February 10, 2016 02:52 PM (KPhjz)

1088 Oh, about that painting. I see the signs - there's another Saskatchewan Screamer on the way. Temps will drop to -10's, and winds will go 40+. Snow goes sideways, building drifts all the way across the state.

In other words, February.

Posted by: NoDak Snowdrifts at February 10, 2016 02:52 PM (IQI2h)

1089 Both of those court decisions were made on the basis that the laws are unconstitutional. But if the constitution itself says X, even the most loonie left court can't say, no X is unconstitutional.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 02:48 PM (0LHZx)


The California gay marriage referendum was not a "law'. It was a Constitutional amendment, hence part of the California constitution.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 02:52 PM (zc3Db)

1090 Nobody is gonna die from a dart thrown by a kid across a room. Might take an eye out, but not die.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 02:47 PM (39g3+)


At one of my Dad's job's picnics, I got hit on the cheekbone with a real dart. Missed my temple by inches. When I went to my Mom, tugging her arm saying, 'Mom! Mom!', she finally took a look, saw the dart, yanked it out and said, take him to the Navy dispensary for a tetanus shot. She also pulled out my baby teeth with a rusty pair of pliers. My cousins didn't believe me until she did it to one of them, too.

Like I said, childhood is supposed to be a challenge.

Posted by: RickZ at February 10, 2016 02:52 PM (Ix+HS)

1091 Thanks for the radon information....I will follow the suggestions.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 10, 2016 02:52 PM (K0Iz7)

1092 At this point I'm going "all of the above." Well, maybe not Schlitz.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 10, 2016 02:52 PM (PFy0L)

1093 What I can't believe is that 30 years ago my brother and sister and I would ride in the back of our station wagon, sans seatbelts, bouncing around all over the place gong 70 on the freeway.

Looking back it does seem like maybe it wasn't such a great idea and perhaps, making kids sit in car seats or at the very least in the back seat, buckled in, isn't such a radical commie idea.

Yeah banning lawn darts...idiotic. But other things like mandating car seats, mandating fences around pools, etc do have their place.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 02:52 PM (0LHZx)

1094 A similar thing happened with gay marriage. Remind me again why you think an Article V convention is the answer?
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2016 02:43 PM (r1fLd)

Because the federal gov't can't repeal an amendment to the Constitution like it can some State law. Apples and oranges you just argued. If the an amendment to the Constitution made gay marriage illegal how then would the Fed gov't go around this? The States would simply ignore any executive order or decision the feds hand down. Let me ask you a question, if say tomorrow obama released an executive order banning all guns how would he enforce this? Your argument is he'll ignore the 2nd amendment and do it any way. It's not like the states will through their hands up and say okay. The States can and would refuse this.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 02:52 PM (UnJ7w)

1095 What beer pairs well with a TV dinner and a broken marriage?

Ahem

Posted by: Whiskey at February 10, 2016 02:52 PM (BrQrN)

1096 A Jewish man was stabbed in the back in an apparently unprovoked attack in New York's Crown Heights neighborhood Wednesday afternoon.

The victim is in his 30s, and suffered from stab wounds to his upper back.

The attack occurred at a check cashing center at Kingston Ave and Empire Boulevard, according to the JP Updates site.

The New York Police Department say they are searching for a black male who fled the scene immediately after the attack.

Hum? On the same day old commie Bernie meets with Al Sharpy Sharpton to kiss ass. Coincidence? I don't think so

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2016 02:53 PM (DUoqb)

1097 Well, maybe not Schlitz.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 10, 2016 02:52 PM (PFy0L)

----

coward

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 02:53 PM (8XRCm)

1098 Withholding money from the fed gov't is TEETH. The gov't has no revenue stream other than collecting it from the States. You honestly believe the States can't repair their own roads and educate their own children with out interference from the gov't. You are twisting yourself into a pretzel arguing the States can't fend for themselves.



States can't anymore. Iowa can't give up their corn subsidies.
Withholding money from the fedgov?

Who do you think PRINTS it?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 02:54 PM (Y42RP)

1099 Reform is impossible. It's time for a reset. Dissolve the Federal government and start over from scratch.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 10, 2016 02:54 PM (LXJ1e)

1100 "if the constitution itself says X"

The Loonie Left Law Professor movement had a point. Precedent can be distinguished, words are subject to "interpretation." So law oftentimes is just an extension of politics.

We can't agree on "natural born," for example.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2016 02:54 PM (r1fLd)

1101
But someone launching a 3 pound metal dart into the air, hopefully
toward a circle? That's just asking for trouble. I mean... I'm all for
kids taking risks and learning, but I wouldn't hand them jugs of nitro
either. Really there has to be a line somewhere.


Say what?

Posted by: 90 mile an hour fastball high and inside at February 10, 2016 02:54 PM (Iz75+)

1102 >>>What beer pairs well with a TV dinner and a broken marriage?<<<

How about a nice bitter IPA?

Posted by: BernieBro at February 10, 2016 02:54 PM (UzPAd)

1103 Posted by: Whiskey at February 10, 2016 02:52 PM

I learned my lesson with you - last year I gave up beer for lent and you damned near killed me.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 10, 2016 02:54 PM (PFy0L)

1104 redbanzai is a chick? Wat. Oh but the name makes sense now.

Go VW.

Roommate works for a research company that's about to drop a study about the true carbon footprints of google and amazon. Going to give the government leverage to tag them with some ludicrous figure in "emissions fines" or whatever the fuck.

I'm sorry, did I say leverage? I meant an excuse.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 02:54 PM (xuouz)

1105 >>I keep wondering if the Founders should have phrased it "shall not be infringed, motherfuckers....under pain of death."


Hey, I *tried* to get them to put it in REALLY LARGE PRINT to make the point....

Posted by: John Hancock at February 10, 2016 02:54 PM (NOIQH)

1106 What beer pairs well with a TV dinner and a broken marriage?

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 10, 2016 02:50 PM (PFy0L)


Mickey's Big Mouth

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 02:54 PM (OrI3J)

1107 Guns->crossbows->millenials->water tanks->old cars->bear rape->female leftist public figure of the month->lawn darts->guns
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 02:48 PM (xuouz)

You forgot tits.
Back to aluminum membership for you.

Posted by: OneEyedJack (Of Spades, naturally) at February 10, 2016 02:55 PM (kKHcp)

1108 1073 So I'm planning my dinner tonight.
What beer pairs well with a TV dinner and a broken marriage?

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 10, 2016 02:50 PM (PFy0L)


This one:

http://goo.gl/lhudCI

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 02:55 PM (maOV6)

1109 Reform is impossible. It's time for a reset. Dissolve the Federal government and start over from scratch.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 10, 2016 02:54 PM (LXJ1e)

Do you mean redraft congress, the SCOTUS, and the executive branch?

Because what you're saying sounds like anarchy.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 02:55 PM (xuouz)

1110 Withholding money from the fed gov't is TEETH. The gov't has no revenue stream other than collecting it from the States. You honestly believe the States can't repair their own roads and educate their own children with out interference from the gov't. You are twisting yourself into a pretzel arguing the States can't fend for themselves.

---------------------

As far a I know my federal taxes go directly to the federal treasury, is doesn't go through the state treasuries.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 10, 2016 02:55 PM (LXJ1e)

1111 What the heck happened to TV Dinners anyway? I mean they always were crappy, although the mexican ones weren't as bad. but they've gotten even smaller and they cost so much.

These things used to be a cheap junk alternative for guys who couldn't cook. 99 cents and you get something at least. Now its like 5 bucks and 60% of the food. How they sell any at all I can't work out. Ten feet down the aisle you can fill your cart with chicken pot pies for ten bucks

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 02:56 PM (39g3+)

1112 In the old days Darwin quickly killed off the stupid. Nowadays, with all the regs and illegalities, the stupid flourish.

Posted by: Soona at February 10, 2016 02:56 PM (Fmupd)

1113 "Both of those court decisions were made on the basis that the laws
are unconstitutional. But if the constitution itself says X, even the
most loonie left court can't say, no X is unconstitutional."

it's been awhile, but i'm pretty sure neither case was actually adjudicated: IIRC, the usual suspects filed for a preliminary injunction, got one, and the state never defended the law...

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 10, 2016 02:56 PM (Eq8if)

1114 Nobody is gonna die from a dart thrown by a kid across a room. Might take an eye out, but not die.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 02:47 PM (39g3+)

A death was what started the push to ban them.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 02:56 PM (/CXhS)

1115 You forgot tits.
Back to aluminum membership for you.
Posted by: OneEyedJack (Of Spades, naturally) at February 10, 2016 02:55 PM (kKHcp)

Haha this guy was actually talking about "water tanks" this whole time!

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 02:56 PM (xuouz)

1116 EPA on gas cans and so much else.

Just watched Ghostbusters again night before last.

Let me remind you who released all the ghosts in the containment facility, which unleashed Gozar upon the city...

That's right...

Dickless of the EPA!

Posted by: mindful webworker - eliminate polluting agencies at February 10, 2016 02:57 PM (K/p7v)

1117 Remind me again why you think an Article V convention is the answer?

Because if you start shooting them beforehand it's just murder - again.

Posted by: DaveA at February 10, 2016 02:57 PM (DL2i+)

1118 Burger King to stat selling hot dogs in all restaurants.

Personally I do like 5 Guy's Hot dogs

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2016 02:57 PM (DUoqb)

1119 >>I'm sorry, did I say leverage? I meant an excuse.

And I will have no sympathy for those sanctimonious, Democrat bankrolling dicks when it happens.


(OK, we all know they'll pass it on to us, but at this point the feds will use anything to tax us, so might as well make some jerks feel the sting of climate change overreach in the process)

Posted by: John Hancock at February 10, 2016 02:57 PM (NOIQH)

1120
Hillary's email scandal is getting deeper. At least a dozen and perhaps as many as 30 people accessed top security information on Hillary's server.

Patrick Kennedy, the guy who was supposed to be in charge of security in Benghazi, testified to Congress that he didn't know the scope of Hillary's email but the emails showed he talked all the time to Hillary on her private email.

Fox News.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2016 02:32 PM (/tuJf)
_____________________

Keep beatin' that dead horse......

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 10, 2016 02:57 PM (HSmrB)

1121 I"ve read an article written by an industrial
hygienist who says the thresholds are bogus, simply numbers picked out
of the air.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 10, 2016 02:11 PM (K0Iz7)

The radon science is settled!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 10, 2016 02:57 PM (wYnyS)

1122 As far a I know my federal taxes go directly to the federal treasury, is doesn't go through the state treasuries.

I seem to recall a Walter Williams suggestion that a state take responsibility for collecting all Federal taxes within its borders and them remit them, instead of the citizens paying them directly.

Then the state will have some leverage against Federal overreach.

His suggestion was in the context of fighting unfunded mandates, but really...I could see a state like Texas using a system like this to great effect.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 10, 2016 02:57 PM (PFy0L)

1123 i prefer the beer they named after me: Arrogant Bastard Ale

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 10, 2016 02:57 PM (Eq8if)

1124 These things used to be a cheap junk alternative for guys who couldn't cook. 99 cents and you get something at least.


A real man sticks to frozen burritos from the microwave. I even give them out at Halloween.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 10, 2016 02:58 PM (8ZskC)

1125 One Sunday afternoon soon after, his nine-year-old son and some of his neighborhood friends found the Jarts and began tossing them around in Snow's backyard. One kid tossed his Jart too far and too high, sailing it over the backyard fence and into the front yard, where Snow's daughter, seven-year-old Michelle, was playing with her dolls. The Jart came down right on her and, with what researchers estimate as 23,000 pounds of pressure per square inch, penetrated her skull. She collapsed, was rushed to the hospital, and was pronounced clinically dead three days later.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 02:58 PM (/CXhS)

1126 and perhaps, making kids sit in car seats or at the very least in the back seat, buckled in, isn't such a radical commie idea.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 02:52 PM (0LHZx)


Yes, it is. And forcing me to wear a seatbelt is too. The State has no business with this. And arresting people for DUI (which is a very serious charge) for tooling around on lawnmowers and golf carts and medicare carts while drunk is an awful abuse of power and proof that the state cannot be trusted with anything serious.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 02:58 PM (zc3Db)

1127 It is all desolate until the Ewok walks.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Ashes, Sackcloth, Woe and Despair! Election and Lenten Specials at the Outrage Outlet! at February 10, 2016 02:58 PM (hLRSq)

1128 Don't know if it's been here already ( to lazy to scroll through 1000 comments ) but I get it the fat lady is singing for the fat man, Christie is packing it in.

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2016 02:58 PM (HWcaz)

1129 Well, back to my book. Maybe we will get a new thread before the ONT.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 10, 2016 02:58 PM (t2KH5)

1130 Do you mean redraft congress, the SCOTUS, and the executive branch?

Because what you're saying sounds like anarchy.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 02:55 PM (xuouz)

--------------------

The states are still sovereign and would exist. They can work out deals among themselves, unite, whatever they want to do.

Perhaps we would end up as five or six separate nations. Government should meet the needs of the people, it isn't and should be dissolved.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 10, 2016 02:59 PM (LXJ1e)

1131 Who do you think PRINTS it?
Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 02:54 PM (Y42RP)

What good is a printing press if the money isn't worth the paper it's printed on? Now you are just grasping at straws. You can suspend the laws of the country but you cannot suspend the laws of economics. You really think China would want all that worthless paper without value behind it? Being contrarian will only get your argument so far.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 02:59 PM (UnJ7w)

1132 How about a nice bitter IPA?
Old Crow.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 10, 2016 02:59 PM (WOyz5)

1133 3pm and we're still gnawing at this worn-out nubbin?

Posted by: Kerry Lawson at February 10, 2016 02:59 PM (8n+U+)

1134 Christie is packing it in.
Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2016 02:58 PM (HWcaz)

----

Boy.... can he.

Posted by: All You Can Eat Buffets Everywhere at February 10, 2016 02:59 PM (8XRCm)

1135 But someone launching a 3 pound metal dart into the air, hopefully

toward a circle? That's just asking for trouble. I mean... I'm all for

kids taking risks and learning, but I wouldn't hand them jugs of nitro

either. Really there has to be a line somewhere.

Say what?


Posted by: 90 mile an hour fastball high and inside at February 10, 2016 02:54 PM (Iz75+)

Piker!

Posted by: 188 Mile per Hour Jai Alai Pelota at February 10, 2016 02:59 PM (OrI3J)

1136 Holy cow !
*in bad Harry Caray imitation voice*
After I spent hours shopping groceries (and a Valentine for Mrs. Eez) we're still on the same thread ?
Vaguely disturbing ....

I've been buying lightly used old style gas cans at garage sales for a couple of years now .... enough to assure a lifetime supply. Same as I did with 100 watt bulbs a few years earlier. Maybe I should stock up on lawn darts, too.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 10, 2016 02:59 PM (Z8DIA)

1137 Really there has to be a line somewhere.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 02:47 PM (39g3+)

Yes. And that line is called "parents."

It's not he government's fvcking business whether I allow my kids to be...you know....kids.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2016 02:59 PM (Zu3d9)

1138 and perhaps, making kids sit in car seats or at the very least in the back seat, buckled in, isn't such a radical commie idea.



Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 02:52 PM (0LHZx)


You know who was an early proponent of making kids sit in the backseat in the name of "safety?"

Bill Nye.


Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 10, 2016 03:00 PM (PFy0L)

1139 A Jewish man was stabbed in the back in an apparently unprovoked attack in New York's Crown Heights neighborhood Wednesday afternoon.

What's one heeb for the chocolate cause? Resist we much!

Posted by: Al Sharpton at February 10, 2016 03:00 PM (39g3+)

1140 What are you reading, Vic?

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 03:00 PM (maOV6)

1141 Keep beatin' that dead horse......

*hic*



Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 10, 2016 02:57 PM (HSmrB)


Sweetie, you better get down to South Carolina and start building some defenses. I see an old man driving a wildly painted clapped-out old bus has left some skidmarks all over your hopes and dreams last night.

*smooches*

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Ashes, Sackcloth, Woe and Despair! Election and Lenten Specials at the Outrage Outlet! at February 10, 2016 03:00 PM (hLRSq)

1142 >>Hillary's email scandal is getting deeper. At least a dozen and perhaps
as many as 30 people accessed top security information on Hillary's
server.

What does that mean - that they sent/received top security info via one of Hillary's (or their own?) Clinton server email accounts?


I'm still waiting to find out who was involved in getting the secured info TO the server.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 10, 2016 03:01 PM (NOIQH)

1143 off pelota sock

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 03:01 PM (OrI3J)

1144 Are slingshots still legal?

Here in NJ, no
Even pepper spray and BB guns are regulated.
Its like living in Sweden

But that my problem...

Posted by: McCool at February 10, 2016 03:01 PM (nCSwS)

1145 Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2016 02:57 PM (DUoqb)

Hot Diggity Grill
204 Diamond Bridge Ave.
Hawthorne NJ

Trust me on this.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2016 03:02 PM (Zu3d9)

1146 ...But if the constitution itself says X, even the most loonie left court can't say, no X is unconstitutional...

Courts (judges) have and they will. Lawlessness will continue until a new enforcement mechanism becomes common. Constitutions and laws are worthless with the current reading comprehension and general fecklessness of the masses. hard to say what will emerge but the center will not hold.

Posted by: scorecard at February 10, 2016 03:02 PM (HSAmh)

1147 Yeah I see it on the side bar about Christie

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2016 03:02 PM (HWcaz)

1148 Back in the 50's my mom's twin brother was playing catcher in a sandlot baseball game and took a full swing to the head from the batter. He died not too long after that. No new laws, no banning of bats or baseball. It's called calamity.

Posted by: ChocoCheese at February 10, 2016 03:02 PM (OvUux)

1149 and perhaps, making kids sit in car seats or at the very least in the back seat, buckled in, isn't such a radical commie idea.


-----

I cant believe Ive had to post this CS Lewis quote TWICE in the same thread.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

Posted by: All You Can Eat Buffets Everywhere at February 10, 2016 03:02 PM (8XRCm)

1150 One pump war



*which was never 'one' pump war

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 03:02 PM (/CXhS)

1151 perhaps, making kids sit in car seats or at the very least in the back seat, buckled in, isn't such a radical commie idea.

These things are wise, but ought not be compelled by government.

I seem to recall a Walter Williams suggestion that a state take responsibility for collecting all Federal taxes within its borders and them remit them, instead of the citizens paying them directly.

That sounds great until you realize most of the richest states are the most radically, stupid left. Giving them more leverage to get their agenda, maybe not so great.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:02 PM (39g3+)

1152 Article V musings remind me of the Holy Grail:

I told you, we're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to be a sort of executive officer for the week but all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting by a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs but by a two thirds majority in the case of

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2016 03:02 PM (r1fLd)

1153 btw

"to promote the general Welfare" was one of the intentions behind *establishing* the Constitution, not an enumerated power therein

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 03:02 PM (OGdXd)

1154 uggg old socks

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 03:02 PM (8XRCm)

1155 Ace must have found "the One."

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 10, 2016 03:03 PM (IeXP9)

1156 and perhaps, making kids sit in car seats or at the very least in the back seat, buckled in, isn't such a radical commie idea.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 02:52 PM (0LHZx)

The problem is that child safety isn't the impetus behind these laws, or, especially, environmental laws. Who is being kept safe by the new gas cans?

You can now fine someone for not wearing their seatbelt. And if I'm rolling down the street to go to the rite-aid, fuck you anyway. How safe are the kids in public schools? They don't actually care about the safety, it's for generating revenue.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 03:03 PM (xuouz)

1157 Maybe Ace stepped out to get his ashes ?

Posted by: McCool at February 10, 2016 03:04 PM (nCSwS)

1158 ran publishes video of tearful captive American sailor
Iranian national television published new footage resulting from the Revolutionary Guard's capture of two American naval vessels. One of the sailors was depicted crying and wiping the tears away.


Fredo's bestest friends

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2016 03:04 PM (DUoqb)

1159 arguably, bb gun battles were made obsolete by the (infinitely cooler imo) paint gun battles

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 03:04 PM (OGdXd)

1160 And arresting people for DUI (which is a very serious charge) for tooling around on lawnmowers and golf carts and medicare carts while drunk is an awful abuse of power and proof that the state cannot be trusted with anything serious.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 02:58 PM (zc3Db)


For riding a friggin' *lawnmower*? That's bullcrap.That's like when they bust a 15-year-old kid for child pornography because he passed e-mailed a nude pic of his 14-year-old girlfriend from his smartphone. Kid now has to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 03:04 PM (maOV6)

1161 lovely painting.
Thanks RD

Listening to Drew & Brandon on the DD podcast.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 10, 2016 03:04 PM (voOPb)

1162 But if the constitution itself says X, even the most loonie left court can't say, no X is unconstitutional

Meh, it wouldn't even get to courts. If congress just decides to ignore the constitution, who will hold them responsible? They've ignored most of it for decades, and recently decided they can blatantly ignore the absolute, direct order to produce a budget every year. Nobody does anything about it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:05 PM (39g3+)

1163 1073 So I'm planning my dinner tonight.

What beer pairs well with a TV dinner and a broken marriage?
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 10, 2016 02:50 PM (PFy0L)

Steel Reserve.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 10, 2016 03:05 PM (kpqmD)

1164 What beer pairs well with a TV dinner and a broken marriage?
Keystone!

Elegant, yet understated.

Posted by: Roland THTG at February 10, 2016 03:05 PM (QM5S2)

1165 204 Diamond Bridge Ave.
Hawthorne NJ

Trust me on this.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 10, 2016 03:02 PM (Zu3d9)

OK so when do we go?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2016 03:05 PM (DUoqb)

1166 Christopher Taylor, great piece on radon and what exactly I was thinking.

Remember when eggs were going to kill you?

By the way, my father in law's MD has taken him off of statin drugs. Told him they were uneccessary. He feels pretty good now.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 10, 2016 03:05 PM (K0Iz7)

1167 I gave up Mardi Gras for lent.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at February 10, 2016 03:05 PM (jsWA8)

1168 As Prager pointed out 65% of Republican voters didn't vote for Trump,
40 % of Democrats didn't vote for Bernie

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2016 03:05 PM (HWcaz)

1169 So I guess this is just it then.

Posted by: Lauren at February 10, 2016 03:06 PM (3DIzJ)

1170 and perhaps, making kids sit in car seats or at the very least in the back seat, buckled in, isn't such a radical commie idea.



brrrr....chilly...

Posted by: frog boiling in a pot at February 10, 2016 03:06 PM (Iz75+)

1171 That's like when they bust a 15-year-old kid for child pornography because he passed e-mailed a nude pic of his 14-year-old girlfriend from his smartphone. Kid now has to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life.

It doesn't stop being kiddy porn because a kid did it. I've never understood this argument. Is the image of a naked underage person? Then its child porn unless you can manage some kind of "art" exemption. Who took the picture is utterly irrelevant.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:06 PM (39g3+)

1172 ? They don't actually care about the safety, it's for generating revenue.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 03:03 PM (xuouz)

Of course it is. Not just for Big Brother, but his friends in Big Insurance too.

And if they make enough laws (they have), they turn us all into scofflaws and criminals. The better to control us.

Posted by: OneEyedJack (Of Spades, naturally) at February 10, 2016 03:07 PM (kKHcp)

1173 This one actually, I can see. I couldn't believe the darn things were legal to begin with.

--

We played those in our backyard all throughout my childhood. Jarts? Nobody ever got hurt. Not even close to it. And we were a bunch of careless kids. I guess if someone is going to throw it like a Ninja star...

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at February 10, 2016 03:07 PM (pVkEV)

1174 Meh, it wouldn't even get to courts. If congress just decides to ignore the constitution, who will hold them responsible? They've ignored most of it for decades, and recently decided they can blatantly ignore the absolute, direct order to produce a budget every year. Nobody does anything about it.


No standing.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 03:07 PM (Y42RP)

1175 Perhaps we would end up as five or six separate nations. Government should meet the needs of the people, it isn't and should be dissolved.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 10, 2016 02:59 PM (LXJ1e)

Go read Lincoln's second inaugural. You can find the whole text if you google it.

They haven't actually won yet, you know. Don't just give up without a fight. A real fight. We're having an electoral battle right now and they ought to lose, and may.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 03:07 PM (xuouz)

1176 and perhaps, making kids sit in car seats or at the very least in the back seat, buckled in, isn't such a radical commie idea.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 02:52 PM (0LHZx)


So why do kids ride to school on yellow buses that have no seat belts?

Posted by: Jen the original at February 10, 2016 03:07 PM (K0Iz7)

1177 For riding a friggin' *lawnmower*? That's bullcrap.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 03:04 PM (maOV6)


It's even worse than you imagine, in many states the cops can go onto your private property to arrest you for DUI for riding your lawnmower with open alcohol - on your own property!!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 03:08 PM (zc3Db)

1178 Reading on Twitter that sources close to Carly say she's dropping out of the race today. I am sorry to hear it but she wasn't going anywhere.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:08 PM (39g3+)

1179 >>>Perhaps we would end up as five or six separate nations.

"Nobody expected North Dakota to become a nuclear power, but..."

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 10, 2016 03:08 PM (bpn7O)

1180 See, I predicted we'd crack 1200 on this thread. Looks like I'm going to be right.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 03:08 PM (maOV6)

1181 1176 and perhaps, making kids sit in car seats or at the very least in the back seat, buckled in, isn't such a radical commie idea.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 02:52 PM (0LHZx)


So why do kids ride to school on yellow buses that have no seat belts?
Posted by: Jen the original at February 10, 2016 03:07 PM (K0Iz7)

Because the state doesn't make any money writing tickets to itself.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 10, 2016 03:08 PM (kpqmD)

1182 It doesn't stop being kiddy porn because a kid did it. I've never understood this argument. Is the image of a naked underage person? Then its child porn unless you can manage some kind of "art" exemption. Who took the picture is utterly irrelevant.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:06 PM (39g3+)

Yeah man! That perv needs to go hook up with 18 year olds!

Seriously, you don't see room for an exception here?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 03:08 PM (xuouz)

1183 Gentle Uncle Bernie is meeting with Al Sharpton to learn how to articulate his message in a way that Sharpton's people will be receptive to it.

It's the narrative; certain words and rhymes carry an emotional impact among Sharpton's tribe and if Bernie can adopt some of that lingo he'll get votes.

If only Bernie could rap he could tell Sharpton's tribe how the white oppressors use the cops to keep Sharpton's people down. Bernie could be our next Black President.

Posted by: Bjorn Bjigski at February 10, 2016 03:09 PM (VCuI5)

1184 It doesn't stop being kiddy porn because a kid did it. I've never understood this argument. Is the image of a naked underage person? Then its child porn unless you can manage some kind of "art" exemption. Who took the picture is utterly irrelevant.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:06 PM (39g3+)

-------


Yeah.... high school sweethearts sharing sexting....EXACTLY like graphic kiddie porn.

Omipotent moral busy body indeed.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 03:09 PM (8XRCm)

1185 Ace must have found "the One."


All it takes is just the right pron search terms.

Posted by: eleven at February 10, 2016 03:09 PM (qUNWi)

1186 What do you mean kids in car seats? Don't cars have trunks anymore?

Posted by: Beer Ninja at February 10, 2016 03:09 PM (KBjNt)

1187 By the way, my father in law's MD has taken him off of statin drugs. Told him they were uneccessary. He feels pretty good now.

Statin drugs can be very powerful but they have a host of unfortunate secondary effects, doctors are necessarily very hesitant to use them.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:09 PM (39g3+)

1188 And down goes Fiorina.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2016 03:10 PM (/tuJf)

1189 As Prager pointed out 65% of Republican voters didn't vote for Trump,
40 % of Democrats didn't vote for Bernie
Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2016 03:05 PM (HWcaz)

Fucking voter fraud! Those remaining voters are pro-establishment! And that makess 105%!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 03:10 PM (xuouz)

1190 ran publishes video of tearful captive American sailor
Iranian national television published new footage resulting from the Revolutionary Guard's capture of two American naval vessels. One of the sailors was depicted crying and wiping the tears away.


Fredo's bestest friends

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2016 03:04 PM (DUoqb)



Utterly publicly humiliated by Iran and Barry does nothing and just says thanks to them. And of course the MFM drops the story as fast as it can. A Republican in the White House and it would have been a big f-ing deal

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 10, 2016 03:10 PM (493sH)

1191 Here in NJ, no

Even pepper spray and BB guns are regulated.

Its like living in Sweden


But that my problem...



Posted by: McCool at February 10, 2016 03:01 PM
~~~~

Failure to have your dog buckled in your car is illegal in NJ. Found that out the hard way a couple of months ago. Only got a warning--thank God--but the fine is $250-$1,000, with possible criminal(!) charges.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 10, 2016 03:10 PM (E6RIJ)

1192
1189 And down goes Fiorina.

Got Pictures?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at February 10, 2016 03:10 PM (jsWA8)

1193 The water here in Oregon, particularly the valley here, is notoriously clean and extremely high quality.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 01:45 PM (39g3+)


That is if you have surface sources brought in. Otherwise you take water from the Willamette or are up away from the river and you have clay over basalt or a strata of brackish water way down keeping you from drilling wells too deep.

Mom grew up on an aquifer of clay out of Dallas. In the summer the kids couldn't take a bath all on the same day Grandma planned to do laundry. Lots of iron too.

Christopher, you do realize that the signs from the Governors Drought office are still up in state offices in Salem and the Memorial Vets' fountain by the ODVA on Summer St. is STILL Shut down with a sign reading. "closed to save water because of drought"?
Mill Creek, spitting distance away, has been swollen for months.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 10, 2016 03:10 PM (q2o38)

1194 I"ve read an article written by an industrial
hygienist who says the thresholds are bogus, simply numbers picked out of the air.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 10, 2016 02:11 PM (K0Iz7)


Heh .... like that matters.

Posted by: Second Hand Smoke at February 10, 2016 03:10 PM (zYV5P)

1195 OregonMuse: I predicted we'd crack 1200 on this thread. Looks like I'm going to be right.

And I thought, nawww. Looks like I'm going to be wrong.

Posted by: mindful webworker - wrong again at February 10, 2016 03:11 PM (K/p7v)

1196 That CS Lewis quote is one of my favorites. Right up there with Good Intentions by Daniel Webster and Politics by Pericles.

I've come to believe that Man is simply doomed to an unending cycle of conflict ... either by War or Politics. Unfortunately ... most humans are also enamored with Big Armies and Strong Governments.

Posted by: Irony at February 10, 2016 03:11 PM (BHaRb)

1197 Failure to have your dog buckled in your car is illegal in NJ.

----

wait.... WUT???

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 03:11 PM (8XRCm)

1198 Don't forget "being taught to fear the government" as a powerful reason for all these stupid laws.

I'm still liking someones suggestion here maybe a week or 10 days ago; a blanket repeal of every law passed since, say, 1965.
Then, one at a time, replace any that are found to have been useful.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 10, 2016 03:11 PM (Z8DIA)

1199 Been snowy here but luckily not laying on paved surfaces

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2016 03:12 PM (HWcaz)

1200 So why do kids ride to school on yellow buses that have no seat belts?
Posted by: Jen the original
Because the state doesn't make any money writing tickets to itself.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016

That and they'd strangle each other and smash the windows out with the buckles.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 03:12 PM (xuouz)

1201 "Failure to have your dog buckled in your car is illegal in NJ. "

are you serious?

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 03:12 PM (OGdXd)

1202 Seriously, you don't see room for an exception here?

If kiddy porn is illegal and destructive to society, then its illegal regardless of the source. Who took the picture has nothing to do with the good or ill of the image and its damage to culture and children at large.

Ask all those starlets how secure and private their pictures were and how nobody else would ever see them. Ask a hundred million schoolgirls who sent a nudie to their one true love they could always trust and would be with forever how their picture ended up around the world on websites.

And thats putting aside that these kids shouldn't have been doing this to begin with anyway. What moron parent loads their daughter up with a camera phone and lets her have lots of private moments and internet access in this culture to begin with?

I am gobsmacked anyone even has a problem with my argument here. What has happened to our society?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:12 PM (39g3+)

1203 Mill Creek, spitting distance away, has been swollen for months.

Bob Dole now knows that feeling.

Posted by: Bob Dole at February 10, 2016 03:12 PM (3U4+k)

1204 So between Fiorina and Christie, thats 12 points in New Hampshire to be redistributed. Who gets them?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2016 03:12 PM (/tuJf)

1205 >>>>Speaking of guns I need a nice handgun to carry while traveling. Any suggestions?
.
.
.
.Ruger LCR in 38 spl +P. Nice compact and doesn't toss out shell casings like a semi-auto, if that is a concern of yours.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 10, 2016 03:13 PM (iONHu)

1206 Let this be a lesson to anyone who doesn't yet think America is in very perilous times...presidential candidates must now meet with Al freaking scumbag Sharpton and get his blessing in courting the black vote.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at February 10, 2016 03:13 PM (pVkEV)

1207 Is the image of a naked underage person? Then its child porn unless you can manage some kind of "art" exemption. Who took the picture is utterly irrelevant.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:06 PM (39g3+)


I think it's totally relevant. For a 50 year old guy to be taking pictures of 14 year old girls is creepy. For a 15 year old boy, not so much.

And making the 15 year old kid a "sex offender", on par with the 50 year old pederast, is total bullshit.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 03:13 PM (maOV6)

1208 Article V musings remind me of the Holy Grail:
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2016 03:02 PM (r1fLd)

You know I find comments like yours indicative of whats wrong with our current political system. Here we have a legitimate, rational and legal solution to our problems of today left to us by the Framers of our Constitution in Article V. Yet you will poo poo it with snarky comments and with a straight face say Trump or Cruz is really going to change things. Unbelievable.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 10, 2016 03:13 PM (UnJ7w)

1209 "Failure to have your dog buckled in your car is illegal in NJ. "

____

Go back and read the law. That only applies if the dog is driving.

Posted by: Furious George at February 10, 2016 03:13 PM (3GAnN)

1210 So between Fiorina and Christie, thats 12 points in New Hampshire to be redistributed. Who gets them?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2016 03:12 PM (/tuJf)




Gilmore. The man is unstoppable

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 10, 2016 03:13 PM (493sH)

1211 A kid recently got brought up on child pork charges for taking a naked pic - of HIMSELF.

Posted by: Chi at February 10, 2016 03:13 PM (OUpHg)

1212 It doesn't stop being kiddy porn because a kid did it. I've never understood this argument. Is the image of a naked underage person? Then its child porn unless you can manage some kind of "art" exemption. Who took the picture is utterly irrelevant.



So granny takes a pic of 3 yr old johnny or suzie in the tub and puts it on the fridge is a child pornographer?

Because THAT is the age of child porn. Not some 16 yr old chick with her bf.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 10, 2016 03:13 PM (Y42RP)

1213 LegalInsurrection reports Carly is packing it in

Posted by: Skip at February 10, 2016 03:13 PM (HWcaz)

1214 I am gobsmacked anyone even has a problem with my argument here. What has happened to our society?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:12 PM (39g3+)

-----

Im not saying sexting isnt wrong. It is.


Im also saying to treat it like child pornography is incredibly stupid.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 03:14 PM (8XRCm)

1215 We can't agree on "natural born," for example.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2016 02:54 PM (r1fLd)

____

That's because that phrase is 230 years old. I'm sure in the late 1700s it was clear on what it meant. So yeah in 2330, people may argue over what "balanced budget" means. But for 2016, it's pretty clear to anyone with a pulse what it means. So if an amendment says "The federal budget must be balanced every year", there won't be much to interpretation. And just to leave out any ambiguity, add a few more sentences in the amendment and describe exactly what it means, ie revenues in a fiscal year must not be less than outlays in that same fiscal year".

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 03:14 PM (0LHZx)

1216 >>Gilmore. The man is unstoppable

He's locked in a battle royale with Other.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2016 03:14 PM (/tuJf)

1217 New regulations on banned toys:

Hula hoops: back and other muscular-skeletal injuries

Yo-yos: carpal tunnel

Playing cards: threat of paper cuts

Nerf balls: choking hazard

Mud: multiple bacterial hazards

Hands not in mittens: You could put someone's eye out with a finger

You're welcome, citizens!

Posted by: EPA at February 10, 2016 03:14 PM (K/p7v)

1218 15-year-old

isn't he a minor? won't that get wiped from his record when he turns 18?

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 03:14 PM (OGdXd)

1219 Christopher, you do realize that the signs from the Governors Drought office are still up in state offices in Salem and the Memorial Vets' fountain by the ODVA on Summer St. is STILL Shut down with a sign reading. "closed to save water because of drought"?

Yeah its daffy, but the problem is the water in the mountains still hasn't built up. Mill Creek is swollen because its all washing out to the rivers. Until Lake Detroit etc build up so you can't walk halfway across again, there's some reason for concern.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:14 PM (39g3+)

1220 Don't forget "being taught to fear the government" as a powerful reason for all these stupid laws.

Goes beyond the laws, actually.

My wife kept hitting me over the head that it is "illegal" to have our 11 year old in the front seat of the car, and extra special illegal to leave him home by himself for a few hours.

Finally I asked her to show me the exact law that made those things illegal. In return I got a cite from a pamphlet put out by CPS that "recommended" those things. No law. No authority for CPS or anyone else in my state to prohibit those things. Just the reliance on unthinking compliance from the masses.

This kind of crap is epidemic.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 10, 2016 03:15 PM (PFy0L)

1221 Did someone upthread mention child pork charges?

Posted by: Harry Reid at February 10, 2016 03:15 PM (3GAnN)

1222
Yeah.... high school sweethearts sharing sexting....EXACTLY like graphic kiddie porn.



"I'll show you mine if you show me yours...


GET ON THE GROUND GET ON THE GROUND GET ON THE GROUND ... HANDS BEHIND YOUR HEAD."

Posted by: sweet memories of childhood at February 10, 2016 03:15 PM (Iz75+)

1223 So when will Fiorina endorse Jeb or Rubio? Tonight? Next week?

Posted by: buzzion at February 10, 2016 03:15 PM (z/Ubi)

1224 "Who took the picture is utterly irrelevant."

Of course it's relevant. Taking a bathroom selfie is a lot different than some creepy uncle molesting you in the basement and taking pictures for his friends.

Posted by: Lauren at February 10, 2016 03:15 PM (3DIzJ)

1225 Burger King to stat selling hot dogs in all restaurants.

===

OK THATS ENOUGH. fuck NO.

Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at February 10, 2016 03:15 PM (3ZtZW)

1226 15-year-old

isn't he a minor? won't that get wiped from his record when he turns 18?
Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 03:14 PM (OGdXd)

NOT sex crime charges

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2016 03:15 PM (DUoqb)

1227 The problem is that child safety isn't the impetus
behind these laws, or, especially, environmental laws. Who is being kept
safe by the new gas cans?



You can now fine someone for not wearing their seatbelt. And if I'm
rolling down the street to go to the rite-aid, fuck you anyway. How safe
are the kids in public schools? They don't actually care about the
safety, it's for generating revenue.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 03:03 PM (xuouz)


Look up the research of economist Sam Peltzman. Seat belt laws and mandatory air bags do not statistically make us safer... likely because people drive more unsafely when the perceive the risk of driving to be lower.

I think if the government were really concerned about "safety" they would be more effective if they mandated a deadly spike be placed in every steering wheel which would impale the driver if they have a collision. Now THAT would increase safe driving.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 03:16 PM (OrI3J)

1228 isn't he a minor? won't that get wiped from his record when he turns 18?
Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 03:14 PM (OGdXd)


I think being labelled a "sex offender" is an exception to this rule.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 03:16 PM (maOV6)

1229 according to the German gay cannibal, human flesh does indeed taste like pork, but stronger

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 03:16 PM (OGdXd)

1230 Statin drugs can be very powerful but they have a host of unfortunate secondary effects, doctors are necessarily very hesitant to use them.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:09 PM (39g3+)

I haven't found most MD"s in the past hesitant to use them. In fact, I found most of them concerned that if they didn't prescribe, they could be sued for malpractice if the patient suffered a cardiac event.
One of the unfortunate things about 'standards of practice' is the idea that a couple of big time research studies can then set a legal standard for how a patient is treated. Get the FDA and the CDC or AMA on board, and doctors are caught in the middle.
After how many years of hearing about cholesterol being deadly, now we are told it isn't really that important, it's INFLAMMATION that's the killer. And everyone needs to take an 81 mg. aspirin daily.Except that studies have shown that Ibuprofen is better....agghhh!

Posted by: Jen the original at February 10, 2016 03:16 PM (K0Iz7)

1231 If only Bernie could rap he could tell Sharpton's tribe how the white oppressors use the cops to keep Sharpton's people down. Bernie could be our next Black President.

Posted by: Bjorn Bjigski at February 10, 2016 03:09 PM (VCuI5)



Maybe Comrade Bernie can borrow Hillary's Negro dialect

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 10, 2016 03:16 PM (493sH)

1232 Because THAT is the age of child porn. Not some 16 yr old chick with her bf.

In the USA, the cut off age is 18. Anything younger than that is illegal, for good reason.

This way the right has of so often picking and choosing tasty, pleasing bits the left pushes at us while pretending to oppose their agenda is frustrating. Its like letting the alligator nibble just on your toes, it doesn't hurt society that much! Come on, its fun!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:16 PM (39g3+)

1233 Carly out!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2016 03:16 PM (DUoqb)

1234 "if they mandated a deadly spike"

don't give them any ideas, red

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 03:16 PM (OGdXd)

1235 "got a cite from a pamphlet put out by CPS that "recommended" those things. No law. No authority for CPS or anyone else in my state to prohibit those things."

That doesn't mean they won't use it against you should you come up against them.

Posted by: Lauren at February 10, 2016 03:17 PM (3DIzJ)

1236 They haven't actually won yet, you know. Don't just give up without a fight. A real fight. We're having an electoral battle right now and they ought to lose, and may.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 03:07 PM (xuouz)

------------------------------

One side has shown they don't give a s*** about the Constitution when in power and the other side is completely useless in stopping it.

Both sides benefit from the current arrangement.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 10, 2016 03:18 PM (LXJ1e)

1237 What's all this now....?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 10, 2016 03:18 PM (9ym/8)

1238 2000!

Too soon?

Posted by: eman at February 10, 2016 03:18 PM (mR7Es)

1239 nood with small content

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at February 10, 2016 03:18 PM (oGRue)

1240 If two 15 year olds sleep together, are they both rapists....?

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 10, 2016 03:18 PM (PFy0L)

1241 "Failure to have your dog buckled in your car is illegal in NJ. "



are you serious?

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 03:12 PM

~~~

Oh yes I am. And I have the "Warning" to prove it.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 10, 2016 03:18 PM (E6RIJ)

1242 If kiddy porn is illegal and destructive to society, then its illegal regardless of the source. Who took the picture has nothing to do with the good or ill of the image and its damage to culture and children at large.

My paternal grandmother took a picture of me, naked, in the back yard, when I was about five years old. There is nothing sexual about it. Nothing perverse. It's one of the crazy things five year olds do. It was taken around 1951. It went into the family album, and it was something everyone laughed about. She was getting me ready for a bath, and I ran outside.

The perversion comes when an adult wants to have sex with a child. The child is innocent, not even capable of understanding the behavior.

Getting bent out of shape, or arrested because mommy took a picture of her four year old kid playing in the bathtub has nothing to do with sex unless an adult tries to make it sexual. Put the blame where it belongs; on the pervert.

Posted by: Bjorn Bjigski at February 10, 2016 03:18 PM (VCuI5)

1243 In the USA, the cut off age is 18. Anything younger than that is illegal, for good reason.


-----

How can that be when the age of consent in alot of states is 16???

So you can fuck your girlfriend.... you just cant take a picture.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 03:18 PM (8XRCm)

1244 ...because a kid did it...

Really?

Are you a troll or just not thinking clearly today?

There are all kinds of exceptions and conditions because a person is underage. All passed by our elected representatives.

Posted by: scorecard at February 10, 2016 03:19 PM (j2xmV)

1245
So, as far as I know, ace could be putting the finishing touches on what will be known as the Best Blog Post Evah.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 02:36 PM (maOV6)








Did HotAir publish something interesting this morning?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 10, 2016 03:19 PM (smLWk)

1246 I am gobsmacked anyone even has a problem with my argument here.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:12 PM (39g3+)


I'm gobsmacked that you would even try to make such an argument with a straight face.

Is the image of a naked underage person? Then its child porn unless you can manage some kind of "art" exemption. Who took the picture is utterly irrelevant.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:06 PM (39g3+)


Given your gobsmacking argument, why would you even entertain the idea of an "art exception"? That contradicts the rest of your argument - which had enough problems standing on its own.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 03:19 PM (zc3Db)

1247 Reading on Twitter that sources close to Carly say
she's dropping out of the race today. I am sorry to hear it but she
wasn't going anywhere.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:08 PM (39g3+)

Better not repeat that... it might be lying or cheating :-P

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 03:20 PM (OrI3J)

1248 Pulling sock off, throwing it in wrong recycle can.

Posted by: mindful webworker at February 10, 2016 03:20 PM (K/p7v)

1249 When I was a kid, we ate bacon, pork chops, ham, all kind a pork.
Never had any child pork charges.

Posted by: Roland THTG at February 10, 2016 03:20 PM (QM5S2)

1250 The sex crime offender list is a separate issue, and its really messed up. If a guy gets busted sleeping with a 17 year old that swore she was 18, he goes on the list and has to tell everyone in the neighborhood. A guy gets ploughed and pees on a wall, some kid walks by, BANG he's on the list. Its ridiculous.

If someone is so heinous and horrible they are such a vast threat to society permanently and have to go on a special magic list, why did they get let out of prison to begin with?

There's so much wrong with that entire system, as well meaning as it is.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:20 PM (39g3+)

1251 And down goes Fiorina.Posted by: JackStraw at February 10, 2016 03:10 PM (/tuJf)

From the changing tenor of her fundraising emails, I knew Carly was fading out last week but sent her campaign more money anyway. I became a Fiorina supporter early on simply because she seemed the most sane and reasonable of the bunch, and she wasn't pandering to anybody. I readFiorina's book. Her progression from secretary to CEO is inspirational, and so is her struggle against cancer.

I'm going with Cruz now even if Trump says Cruz is a pussy--which Trump would know because Trump is a man's man because Trump went to military school for rich kids which as we all know is the same as real military service.

Even now, I still can't believe Trump supporters are falling for this bozo's shtick.Trump seems so transparent to me: the sleazy dirtbag asshole who styles himself a slick operator. I bet he's got a Hustler subscription.

Posted by: That Stoner Dude You Knew From High School at February 10, 2016 03:21 PM (WuTfJ)

1252 Off stoner sock.

Posted by: troyriser at February 10, 2016 03:21 PM (WuTfJ)

1253 There was a family with 12 kids who lived across the street from us. They had this big old station wagon and you'd see that thing come rolling down the street with arms and legs and feet hanging out of the windows.

Glenn Reynolds has opined that one reason people have only one or two kids these days (besides the obvious expense) is that you have to keep them in car seats now almost up to their 18th birthday. My neighbors would have had to have 2 cars and get up 2 hours early to start strapping all the kids in, instead of them all just piling in the car.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at February 10, 2016 03:21 PM (u0lmX)

1254 "if they mandated a deadly spike"



don't give them any ideas, red

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 03:16 PM (OGdXd)

LOL, That did cross my mind as I was typing.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 03:22 PM (OrI3J)

1255 If kiddy porn is illegal and destructive to society, then its illegal regardless of the source. Who took the picture has nothing to do with the good or ill of the image and its damage to culture and children at large.

Ask all those starlets how secure and private their pictures were and how nobody else would ever see them. Ask a hundred million schoolgirls who sent a nudie to their one true love they could always trust and would be with forever how their picture ended up around the world on websites.

And thats putting aside that these kids shouldn't have been doing this to begin with anyway. What moron parent loads their daughter up with a camera phone and lets her have lots of private moments and internet access in this culture to begin with?

I am gobsmacked anyone even has a problem with my argument here. What has happened to our society?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:12 PM (39g3+)

If the girl took the picture isn't SHE responsible? Why isn't SHE charged? It's not difficult to get girls to take pictures of themselves. Your argument is not against stolen or secret or forced pictures, this is sexting you're talking about. It goes down. And most guys keep them for themselves. Will assholes show them to their friends? Yeah, and that's awful. But this happens every day, and in the same way the girl will learn (quite painfully) not to trust every douche with nudies, guys will learn who they really want to be friends with - for most people it ain't someone who wants to show off personal pictures of his girlfriend. You can't coddle kids, they end up useless millenials.

Different issue. How many of those starlets were underage? This is about personal responsibility.

You're talking about ruining a kid's life because he shows off. Girls have ways of getting back at dickbags, if you'd believe it.

I *get* what you're saying. But you sound a little puritanical.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 03:24 PM (xuouz)

1256 What beer pairs well with a TV dinner and a broken marriage?

===

WTF with all these small-brewery fkg beers?

This shit calls for Miller High Life.

Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at February 10, 2016 03:25 PM (3ZtZW)

1257 How can that be when the age of consent in alot of states is 16???

So you can fuck your girlfriend.... you just cant take a picture.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 10, 2016 03:18 PM (8XRCm)

Why did I write a novel this is it

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 10, 2016 03:25 PM (xuouz)

1258 Given your gobsmacking argument, why would you even entertain the idea of an "art exception"?

I didn't endorse the art exception, I noted that it exists. However only a fool is incapable of telling the difference between a nekkid cupid in rembrandt and kiddy porn, and only a fool would argue them equivalent.

That's why the "picture of me as a child" argument is utterly irrelevant. The fact people are even bringing this up is bizarre to me. This couple trading naked pics were not going "aww how cute!" they were going "ooh how hot!" This was not about adorable kids, its about sex.

Who made and sent a picture out does not change its contents. Child porn is defined by its content, not its originator. Just because two kids film themselves having sex at age 11 doesn't somehow now make it not child porn. This is ridiculous.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:26 PM (39g3+)

1259
According to Reason: Rand Paul Is Out--But Libertarianism Is Finally Mainstream

When did joo hating bong heads go mainstream? lol

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 10, 2016 03:26 PM (iQIUe)

1260 Carly is out!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 10, 2016 03:27 PM (iQIUe)

1261 NOOD!

Posted by: tu3031 at February 10, 2016 03:27 PM (YFFpo)

1262 Burger King to stat selling hot dogs in all restaurants.

Personally I do like 5 Guy's Hot dogs

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 10, 2016 02:57 PM (DUoqb)


Portillo's in Chicago (and LA) also does excellent dogs, but I don't live in Chicago (or LA) anymore, so Five Guys dogs are my current backup plan. However, I do intend to try the Burger King option, because that would be a lot more convenient.

Posted by: HTL at February 10, 2016 03:28 PM (tcvYF)

1263 If the girl took the picture isn't SHE responsible? Why isn't SHE charged?

She should be - although its possible it only becomes illegal when its transmitted. Its possible its just being idiotically inconsistent. But inconsistency only argues that the wronghood is in not charging both, not that he shouldn't be charged.

Seriously, you guys would be okay if kids started up a porn industry entirely consisting of people their age? Its not child porn, we're all 13!!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:28 PM (39g3+)

1264 According to Reason: Rand Paul Is Out--But Libertarianism Is Finally Mainstream



When did joo hating bong heads go mainstream? lol

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 10, 2016 03:26 PM (iQIUe)

Rand is out when we say he's out!

Posted by: 937 New Hampshire Primery Voters at February 10, 2016 03:28 PM (OrI3J)

1265 "Yet you will poo poo it with snarky comments and with a straight face"

We've got problems including because of how constitutional words are interpreted and applied, and you insist that the right answer is to add more words instead of replacing key people to interpret and apply the words. Give me a President and a Senate Leader with the commitment of a Harry Reid playing for our team and you'll get a lot more than musing about Article V.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 10, 2016 03:28 PM (r1fLd)

1266 1229 according to the German gay cannibal, human flesh does indeed taste like pork, but stronger

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 03:16 PM (OGdXd)

What was his name? Remember seeing that F'd up video.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 03:30 PM (/CXhS)

1267 1241 "Failure to have your dog buckled in your car is illegal in NJ. "



are you serious?

Posted by: Feh at February 10, 2016 03:12 PM

____

That's not for the safety of the dog, it's so that a 75 LB dog doesn't come flying at you when you make a sudden stop. I buckle up my dog in the car, not because it's the law but because the laws of physics.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 03:30 PM (0LHZx)

1268 Oops. Different gay cannibal I think.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 10, 2016 03:30 PM (/CXhS)

1269
Yeah its daffy, but the problem is the water in
the mountains still hasn't built up. Mill Creek is swollen because its
all washing out to the rivers. Until Lake Detroit etc build up so you
can't walk halfway across again, there's some reason for concern.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:14 PM (39g3+)


Really? These are recirculating fountains.

RECIRCULATING FOUNTAINS.

And I notice the Mall in front of the Capitol and the capitol grounds were suspiciously green all summer.

precipitation amt per USDA for the Willamette valley appears to be averaging at 113% of average to date.
If this is a drought we are in WASTF (to coin a phrase) because "non drought" means we have to start building arks.

I would have some suspicion as to how much Detroit is spilling right now. It won't be the first time they spilled too much out of fear of future rains and blew it totally.
Of course this time Gov. Brown can declare a water emergency and proclaim emergency powers.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 10, 2016 03:32 PM (q2o38)

1270 I didn't endorse the art exception, I noted that it exists. However only a fool is incapable of telling the difference between a nekkid cupid in rembrandt and kiddy porn, and only a fool would argue them equivalent.

First of all, for anyone to call a PAINTING kiddie porn is insane (which is an idea that you seem to be open to).

Secondly, when a urinal is a piece of art then your whole argument about any differences between "art" and kiddie porn falls aside.

If you want to take an absolutist position then you have to stick with it. Your argument would never allow for any sort of "art exception" so you should just stick with that. You tie yourself into knots trying to argue around that.

That's why the "picture of me as a child" argument is utterly irrelevant. The fact people are even bringing this up is bizarre to me. This couple trading naked pics were not going "aww how cute!" they were going "ooh how hot!" This was not about adorable kids, its about sex.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:26 PM (39g3+)


?? You've already argued that the motivations of the pic (and anything else about its circumstances) are irrelevant. By your standards, baby nude pics of you are kiddie porn and whoever took them (and worse, displayed or distributed them) are sex offenders who belong in jail. Them's your rules.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 10, 2016 03:33 PM (zc3Db)

1271 UK GDP:2.67 trillion
MS GDP: 98 Billion

Posted by: citizen khan at February 10, 2016 03:34 PM (fatVw)

1272 Seriously, you guys would be okay if kids started up a porn industry entirely consisting of people their age? Its not child porn, we're all 13!!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:28 PM (39g3+)


This is a meaningless hypothetical, Chris, and you know it.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2016 03:34 PM (maOV6)

1273 That's not for the safety of the dog, it's so that a
75 LB dog doesn't come flying at you when you make a sudden stop. I
buckle up my dog in the car, not because it's the law but because the
laws of physics.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 03:30 PM (0LHZx)


And you are wearing your mandatory indoors safety helmet with GPS interlock and unauthorized removal detector to keep you extra safe from accidents indoors?

A big guy like you could get seriously hurt hitting furniture, the government has a need to keep you safe and not a burden.

I hope you don't think that is an unnecessary burden or restriction on your life. After all it is just to make sure you are safe.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 10, 2016 03:35 PM (q2o38)

1274 If the girl took the picture isn't SHE responsible? Why isn't SHE charged?



She should be - although its possible it only becomes illegal when
its transmitted. Its possible its just being idiotically inconsistent.
But inconsistency only argues that the wronghood is in not charging
both, not that he shouldn't be charged.



Seriously, you guys would be okay if kids started up a porn industry entirely consisting of people their age? Its not child porn, we're all 13!!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 10, 2016 03:28 PM (39g3+)

There is a difference and ought to be a difference between morally wrong and moronically stupid and "OMG we are going to ruin the rest of your life (literally)" criminal. Sexting is morally wrong and very stupid but it should be a matter for parents to discipline NOT for legal authorities to put teenagers who aren't even old enough to vote or drink on a sexual offender registry with rapists and child molesters for consensual behavior between them and their screw buddies.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 10, 2016 03:36 PM (OrI3J)

1275 1271 UK GDP:2.67 trillion
MS GDP: 98 Billion
Posted by: citizen khan at February 10, 2016 03:34 PM (fatVw)

_____

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ja4mduj

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 03:38 PM (0LHZx)

1276 And you are wearing your mandatory indoors safety helmet with GPS interlock and unauthorized removal detector to keep you extra safe from accidents indoors?

A big guy like you could get seriously hurt hitting furniture, the government has a need to keep you safe and not a burden.

I hope you don't think that is an unnecessary burden or restriction on your life. After all it is just to make sure you are safe.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 10, 2016 03:35 PM (q2o3

_______

Real men can withstand a 75 lb projective.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 10, 2016 03:39 PM (0LHZx)

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The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat