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Vincent Van Gogh, "Wheat Field Under Clouded Sky" (1890)

Posted by: rdbrewer at 12:42 PM

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1 Very Nice!

Posted by: Bruce at February 08, 2016 12:43 PM (8ikIW)

2 The trees are really short.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 08, 2016 12:44 PM (LUgeY)

3 The cloud could be SMOD going across the sky

Posted by: Bruce at February 08, 2016 12:44 PM (8ikIW)

4 So, we've moved to the big leagues now.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at February 08, 2016 12:44 PM (SCcgT)

5 The Absinthe is kicking in.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2016 12:45 PM (AimgL)

6 Fingerpaint.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 08, 2016 12:45 PM (LUgeY)

7
That big cloud on the left looks like-

an ear.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 08, 2016 12:45 PM (0cMkb)

8 I think I see the invisible chicken creature.

Posted by: The Doctor at February 08, 2016 12:46 PM (H9MG5)

9 Was that his kindergarten phase?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 08, 2016 12:46 PM (FkBIv)

10 >>>That big cloud on the left looks like-

an ear.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 08, 2016 12:45 PM (0cMkb)<<<

What?

Posted by: zombie Vincent Van Gogh at February 08, 2016 12:46 PM (H9MG5)

11 Van Gogh put ketchup on hot dogs!

Posted by: Bigby's Fistful of Dice at February 08, 2016 12:46 PM (+nzMX)

12 GMO wheat.

Posted by: Roland THTG at February 08, 2016 12:47 PM (QM5S2)

13
The blood splatter in the center from the previous victim of the sniper is particularly nice.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 08, 2016 12:47 PM (0cMkb)

14 Last summer we stayed in a nice little hotel just over the small hill on the left center of this painting. Great eating in the restaurant there. The kids were bored stiff.

Posted by: MTF at February 08, 2016 12:48 PM (TxJGV)

15 I love this. It's all palate knife, no brush strokes.

Plus when we cut down that wheat we can make whiskey from it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at February 08, 2016 12:48 PM (1xUj/)

16 Awesome, a poster of my post-industrial america!

Posted by: President Sanders at February 08, 2016 12:48 PM (8R8mX)

17 I always liked Van Gogh's color choices.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at February 08, 2016 12:48 PM (xWW96)

18 Van Gogh just aped the stuff he saw in Japan.

Posted by: ChocoCheese at February 08, 2016 12:49 PM (OvUux)

19 Fifteen minutes later the tornado hit.

Posted by: HH at February 08, 2016 12:50 PM (DrCtv)

20 Dats a gator on de right. Ima hookim.

Posted by: Swamp People at February 08, 2016 12:51 PM (UBS9M)

21 12 GMO wheat.

I hope so!(Although there is no GMO wheat on the market)

Posted by: ChocoCheese at February 08, 2016 12:51 PM (OvUux)

22 JJ or CBD around? Who knows about kosher food?

Posted by: Chi at February 08, 2016 12:52 PM (OUpHg)

23 When all you have is some green and blue, go with what you got, I guess. He was poor, after all.

Posted by: mindful webworker - I don't know Art but at February 08, 2016 12:52 PM (BN/jk)

24 I almost cut my ear off yesterday -- listening to Beyoncé!!!!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 08, 2016 12:52 PM (rP0TY)

25 Three minutes brushing your teeth with the water running could hydrate that wheat field for a month.

Posted by: The Colgate Water Police at February 08, 2016 12:52 PM (Dwehj)

26 Moo moo on last thread, trying to say cars from the 50's & 60's were pieces of shit not designed to last 1 or 2 years. His stupid burns like untreatable vd.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2016 12:52 PM (Z1oBf)

27 Dats a gator on de right. Ima hookim.

Choot 'im Troy! Choot 'im!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2016 12:53 PM (Z1oBf)

28 Such a neonic green field is incompatible with dark roiling skies. Discordant in the extreme. The only way this could have occurred is the dark skies were painted first and then moved off to allow the imaging of a bright field basking in sunshine.
Splotchy painting is fast enough to capture reality. Up your game, Vinny.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at February 08, 2016 12:53 PM (FtrY1)

29 Never did like Van Goh

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 08, 2016 12:54 PM (t2KH5)

30 Thank you for the nice picture rdbrewer!

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 08, 2016 12:54 PM (UnJ7w)

31 Among his other attributes, Vincent was a very fast painter.

Need proof? Well, just look at that Van Gogh!

/muldoon

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 08, 2016 12:54 PM (McRlu)

32 Moo moo on last thread, trying to say cars from the 50's 60's were
pieces of shit not designed to last 1 or 2 years. His stupid burns like
untreatable vd.

Sounds like he's downed another triple shot of contrarian.

Posted by: The Colgate Water Police at February 08, 2016 12:55 PM (Dwehj)

33 Three minutes brushing your teeth with the water running could hydrate that wheat field for a month.

Posted by: The Colgate Water Police at February 08, 2016 12:52 PM (Dwehj)

You owe me a keyboard.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 08, 2016 12:55 PM (2vRRd)

34 >>Never did like Van Goh

Something is wrong with you.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2016 12:55 PM (AimgL)

35 Van Gogh et al are right about Provence - everything looks so much clearer and brighter there.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 08, 2016 12:55 PM (iQIUe)

36 Posted by: Jim at February 08, 2016 12:54 PM (McRlu)

HA! Nice one Jim.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 08, 2016 12:55 PM (UnJ7w)

37 Moo moo on last thread, trying to say cars from the 50's & 60's were pieces of shit not designed to last 1 or 2 years. His stupid burns like untreatable vd.
Posted by: rickb223

My data is better than your anecdote.

Posted by: Intolerable A-hole at February 08, 2016 12:56 PM (FkBIv)

38 That colgate ad made me want to throw something at the screen.

Posted by: ChocoCheese at February 08, 2016 12:56 PM (OvUux)

39 HH, some of the most beautiful Iowa skies I've seen are right before house-rattling storms.

Posted by: pookysgirl at February 08, 2016 12:56 PM (K27gs)

40 Behind the cloud on the left: aliens.

Definitely aliens.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Watch Dancing With The Candidates - sponsored by the Outrage Outlet! at February 08, 2016 12:57 PM (hLRSq)

41 Among his other attributes, Vincent was a very fast painter.

Need proof? Well, just look at that Van Gogh!

Renoir's faster.

Stimpy was pretty quick too.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 08, 2016 12:57 PM (0cMkb)

42 Cripes. That's not wheat. It's triticale.

Posted by: Furious George at February 08, 2016 12:57 PM (3GAnN)

43 MORE EVIDENCE OF THE PATRIARCHY: THAT CLOUD LOOKS LIKE A SPERM

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 08, 2016 12:57 PM (659DL)

44 Very nice; I will have to show it to FenelonSpouse who loves the works of Van Gogh.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 08, 2016 12:57 PM (w4NZ8)

45 Iowa gets some of the most Ominous of skies.
When things go dark green, it's time to get below grade.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2016 12:57 PM (AimgL)

46 I've seen a 2000 piece jig-saw puzzle of "Starry Night".

Betcha' that takes a while to complete.

Posted by: HH at February 08, 2016 12:57 PM (DrCtv)

47 26 Moo moo on last thread, trying to say...
Posted by: rickb223
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I read about THAT much of his first post on the topic, and had to shut down then go outside to light the smoker.
Not gonna do it - wouldn't be prudent...

Posted by: Chi at February 08, 2016 12:58 PM (OUpHg)

48 I like Matisse, too. I love color. Matisse and Vinnie loved color, too.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 08, 2016 12:58 PM (iQIUe)

49 Joy in the spirit-

A Brooklyn Tabernacle devotional:

http://www.brooklyntabernacle.org/devotional

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 08, 2016 12:58 PM (w4NZ8)

50 Did you see one of my kids took out someone over the weekend?

Posted by: SMOD at February 08, 2016 12:58 PM (bpn7O)

51
With regards to the sideboard notice about the GOP bill to slash congressroach salaries until the budget is balanced -

Other than the fact the bill will never pass, I'd rather see a bill (or even better, an EO jammed down the bastards' throats) requiring every nickelfucking deviant in congress to be subject to the same laws US citizens are, with triple penalties for violations. Government as master and citizen as serf (or, in Scankles' quaint terminology, renters) is a pernicious attitude that needs to be stamped into the ground.

And Marco the Rube sure as hell isn't the man to do that.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 08, 2016 12:58 PM (X6fMO)

52 some of the most beautiful Iowa skies I've seen...

still finish in third place.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 08, 2016 12:58 PM (659DL)

53 43
MORE EVIDENCE OF THE PATRIARCHY: THAT CLOUD LOOKS LIKE A SPERM

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 08, 2016 12:57 PM (659DL)

Leaving the scene of the crime, no doubt.

Posted by: rebel flounder at February 08, 2016 12:59 PM (3dOE/)

54 Cam Newton's failure to fall on the ball couldn't have happened to a more classless, arrogant piece of shit quarterback. One can only hope it will finally humble him enough to stop behaving like a braying jackass.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 08, 2016 12:59 PM (5DJW4)

55 rickb223: Moo moo on last thread...

I skipped the last thread. But you just had to drag that forward off the street and into the art gallery, din'cha! You know that counts 1/3 toward a barrellin', right?

Posted by: mindful webworker - jus tkiddink at February 08, 2016 12:59 PM (BN/jk)

56 Storm rollin' in. Or else a blue, clear sky. Tough to tell.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 08, 2016 01:00 PM (RD7QR)

57 This is why I will never understand art. That looks like something a 3rd grader would paint.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2016 01:00 PM (/tuJf)

58 54
Cam Newton's failure to fall on the ball couldn't have happened to a more classless, arrogant piece of shit quarterback. One can only hope it will finally humble him enough to stop behaving like a braying jackass.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 08, 2016 12:59 PM (5DJW4)

Hey! That's just wrong.

Posted by: Braying Jackass at February 08, 2016 01:00 PM (3dOE/)

59 And a devotional from the Rabbi which is-interestingly enough-on a related theme to joy-on keeping a cheerful spirit:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/grhkuqd

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 08, 2016 01:00 PM (w4NZ8)

60 39 HH, some of the most beautiful Iowa skies I've seen are right before house-rattling storms.
Posted by: pookysgirl at February 08, 2016 12:56 PM (K27gs)

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Or right after a big storm, when the sun is a bit lower, it turns everything into a soft golden color.

Posted by: Soona at February 08, 2016 01:00 PM (Fmupd)

61 Three minutes brushing your teeth with the water running could hydrate that wheat field for a month.

Soooo, the water I save will go all the way to the other side of the world to help someone in a country that's run by a dictator who thinks it's just ducky to deprive their fellow countrymen of a supply of decent, not-brown water.

That's good to know. Let's show this ad a million more times so everyone will know how the world works. For the chillun'...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 08, 2016 01:01 PM (LUgeY)

62 This is why I will never understand art. That looks like something a 3rd grader would paint.

Well, you see...[chokes on tie]

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 08, 2016 01:01 PM (659DL)

63 MORE EVIDENCE OF THE PATRIARCHY: THAT CLOUD LOOKS LIKE A SPERM

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 08, 2016 12:57 PM (659DL)

Leaving the scene of the crime, no doubt.

FALSE ALARM! Everybody go back! It's just a blow job!
-Just the punchline

Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2016 01:01 PM (Z1oBf)

64
Dvde, that lend me yovr ears thing was a metaphor.....

Posted by: Zombie Mark Antony at February 08, 2016 01:01 PM (5e6eO)

65 Three minutes brushing your teeth with the water running could hydrate that wheat field for a month.
Posted by: The Colgate Water Police at February 08, 2016 12:52 PM (Dwehj)

This was probably discussed in the ONT, but who decided that we all needed to be lectured last night by most of the major advertisers about everything from drunk driving to brushing our teeth, etc.
Budweiser is getting hammered for not only that commercial but also for having the iconic Clydesdales in 5 sec of another ad.

I can tell you this for certain. The SJW liberals that are now employed in the advertising agencies can go take a flying leap. They have no sense of humor, no understanding of the rest of America at all.

The commercials last night, without fail, were pathetic. The only non football Super Bowl event that was well done last night was Lady Gaga's rendition of the national anthem , which was superb.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 08, 2016 01:01 PM (K0Iz7)

66 54 Cam Newton's failure to fall on the ball couldn't have happened to a more classless, arrogant piece of shit quarterback. One can only hope it will finally humble him enough to stop behaving like a braying jackass.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 08, 2016 12:59 PM (5DJW4)

In my fantasy world Peyton Manning told him that he would have a long career ahead of him if he settled down and acted less like a dick.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 08, 2016 01:02 PM (RD7QR)

67 32 "Moo moo on last thread, trying to say cars from the 50's 60's were
pieces of shit not designed to last 1 or 2 years. His stupid burns..."

If he said 70's and 80's, he would have been right.

Posted by: jwest at February 08, 2016 01:02 PM (Zs4uk)

68 I like Les Baux-de-Provence. It just rises out of no where. All the building stone is made of limestone packed with fossils.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 08, 2016 01:02 PM (iQIUe)

69 My fleet of Lamborghinis will out-perform those old rust buckets any day of the week.

Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at February 08, 2016 01:02 PM (Dwehj)

70 I like Matisse, too. I love color. Matisse and Vinnie loved color, too.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 08, 2016 12:58 PM (iQIUe) [/I

I love Matisse!!

Posted by: Lea at February 08, 2016 01:02 PM (lIU4e)

71 22 JJ or CBD around? Who knows about kosher food?
Posted by: Chi at February 08, 2016 12:52 PM (OUpHg)

What do you need?

Posted by: hogmartin at February 08, 2016 01:02 PM (NA5LM)

72 stupid tags

Posted by: Lea at February 08, 2016 01:02 PM (lIU4e)

73
Moo moo on last thread, trying to say cars from the 50's 60's were pieces of shit not designed to last 1 or 2 years. His stupid burns like untreatable vd.

Not to be unduly harsh, but from my - admittedly superficial - reading, a lot of the late 50s GM cars were pieces of shit with underpowered engines and topheavy bodies. The whole Harley Earl cult of 'gorp' sacrificed genuine engineering progress on the altar of style.

Vic probably could speak to this with more authority; after all, a man who got his first ride from Honest Ramses' Used Chariots knows what's what.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 08, 2016 01:02 PM (X6fMO)

74 Budweiser, owned by the Belgians...Lecturing us...

Belgians...a country that shouldn't even exist.

Posted by: ChocoCheese at February 08, 2016 01:03 PM (OvUux)

75 >> This is why I will never understand art. That looks like something a 3rd grader would paint.

You really need to be able to see the texture in VanGogh works to get the full effect of his technique. Prints just don't do him justice.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2016 01:03 PM (AimgL)

76 Vic just never liked him as a person

The art is OK

Posted by: Bigby's Fistful of Dice at February 08, 2016 01:03 PM (+nzMX)

77 All the building stone is made of limestone packed with fossils.

All the building stone is packed with Democratic leadership?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 08, 2016 01:03 PM (659DL)

78 Shouldn't all threads be 'open'?

Posted by: Weasel at February 08, 2016 01:03 PM (6xtq3)

79 >>>Moo moo on last thread, trying to say cars from the
50's 60's were pieces of shit not designed to last 1 or 2 years.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2016 12:52 PM (Z1oBf)<<<

Que?

Posted by: Cubans at February 08, 2016 01:03 PM (H9MG5)

80 I like Aix en Provence with all the fountains and hot springs.

Unfortunately, I think there are way too many islamists in southern france. More than I could deal with.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 08, 2016 01:03 PM (iQIUe)

81 Cam gave every kid in the Carolinas a game bawl last night.

Posted by: nckate at February 08, 2016 01:04 PM (TNEyr)

82 Vic just never liked him as a person

I heard Van Gogh's dad and Vic had a falling out over a woman.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 08, 2016 01:04 PM (659DL)

83 Shouldn't all threads be 'open'?

That's Rapey Tuesday.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 08, 2016 01:05 PM (659DL)

84 The SJW liberals that are now employed in the advertising agencies can
go take a flying leap. They have no sense of humor, no understanding of
the rest of America at all.

They dream of the day we're safely stashed away in the camps so they can lecture themselves into nirvana.

Posted by: The Rest of America at February 08, 2016 01:05 PM (Dwehj)

85 All y'all ragging on Cam are gonna piss off Nip.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at February 08, 2016 01:05 PM (X+nFp)

86 NY Knicks fired their Coach Derek Fisher

New Temp Coach Kurt Rambis

White guys putting the Black down again I guess

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 01:05 PM (mw8Dm)

87 I love Matisse!!
Posted by: Lea at February 08, 2016 01:02 PM (lIU4e)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob8FWxrKVZY

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 08, 2016 01:06 PM (iQIUe)

88 >>You really need to be able to see the texture in VanGogh works to get the full effect of his technique. Prints just don't do him justice.

I have. I went to the Van Gogh museum in Amsterdam a couple years ago. And some of his stuff is amazing and I get the whole brush strokes thing but the one up top just looks like an amateur to me.

But then I can't draw a stick figure so not exactly my wheelhouse.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2016 01:06 PM (/tuJf)

89 >>New Temp Coach Kurt Rambis

I hope he wears the Goggles while coaching.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2016 01:06 PM (AimgL)

90 Not to be unduly harsh, but from my - admittedly superficial - reading, a lot of the late 50s GM cars were pieces of shit with underpowered engines and topheavy bodies.

They weren't designed to crap out every year or two so you'd have to go buy a new one. I believe he called it "churn".
Most people couldn't afford a new car every year in the (0's of 60's.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2016 01:06 PM (Z1oBf)

91 Not to be unduly harsh, but from my - admittedly superficial - reading, a lot of the late 50s GM cars were pieces of shit with underpowered engines and topheavy bodies. The whole Harley Earl cult of 'gorp' sacrificed genuine engineering progress on the altar of style.

Vic probably could speak to this with more authority; after all, a man who got his first ride from Honest Ramses' Used Chariots knows what's what.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 08, 2016 01:02 PM (X6fMO)

They were pieces of shit. This isn't some top secret. GM designed their cars so that you would buy a new one every few years. They came up with the term planned obsolescence. That's also why there were such radical designs in the body so often. Again, so that your 195X car would look way out of date in 195X+2.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 08, 2016 01:06 PM (0LHZx)

92 Saw a clip of Bill attacking Bernie, including over how BernieBros are sexistly attacking Hillary. Bill looked and sounded frail and talked like he had Alzheimer's, much more than even a month ago.

Word is that Huma, Cheryl and Jake got an rsvp to talk to the FBI but have instead lawyered up. This could mean that the FBI investigation is nearing a close.

Can't be a lot of joy in Hillaryland these days.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2016 01:07 PM (r1fLd)

93 This is why I will never understand art. That looks like something a 3rd grader would paint.

Posted by: JackStraw

If you ever see a Van Gogh in person, the impression is much different. The way the paint is textured on the surface, the way the light hits the paint. Some of his paintings look very primitive (in a print or on the internet) but in person are strikingly beautiful.

Van Gogh is probably the worst painter to see his works as a print or on the internet. In 2-D they do look very primitive.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...now older and senile at February 08, 2016 01:07 PM (RFeQD)

94 So much snow here in New Hampshire, it's Whiter than Vox...

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 08, 2016 01:07 PM (3Lr19)

95 Belgium!!!

D R I N K ! ! !

sorry, thought this was the debate drinking game thread

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 08, 2016 01:07 PM (ZQfW9)

96 >>But then I can't draw a stick figure so not exactly my wheelhouse.

Well, we can always use your experience neutralizing watchmen and digging shallow graves.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2016 01:08 PM (AimgL)

97 In my fantasy world Peyton Manning told him that he would have a long career ahead of him if he settled down and acted less like a dick.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 08, 2016 01:02 PM (RD7QR)

------------

My fantasy comment to the Camster from Manning after the game would be, "There's going to be a couple of years you might win a Super Bowl ring, but not this year.

Posted by: Soona at February 08, 2016 01:08 PM (Fmupd)

98 73 Vic probably could speak to this with more
authority; after all, a man who got his first ride from Honest Ramses'
Used Chariots knows what's what.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 08, 2016 01:02 PM (X6fMO)

Well I did respond to him in the negative. The cars of the 50s and 60s were not that bad as long as you stuck to Fords and Chevies. But ALL cars were crap from the mid 70s to the late 70s.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 08, 2016 01:08 PM (t2KH5)

99 Cars of the 50s were the Cam Newtowns of cars....lots of sizzle/style, but deep down, piece of junk.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 08, 2016 01:08 PM (0LHZx)

100 Not to be unduly harsh, but from my - admittedly superficial - reading, a lot of the late 50s GM cars were pieces of shit with underpowered engines and topheavy bodies.

You misspelled "the late '70's."

Fins FTWs!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 08, 2016 01:08 PM (LUgeY)

101 In my fantasy world Peyton Manning told him that he would have a long career ahead of him if he settled down and acted less like a dick.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 08, 2016 01:02 PM (RD7QR)

Deion Sanders and Steve Young have basically said this. Both said he cannot behave the way he did in the post game press conference, like a spoiled little brat.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 08, 2016 01:08 PM (K0Iz7)

102 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob8FWxrKVZY
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 08, 2016 01:06 PM (iQIUe)

Cool! Will have to watch later, thanks.

Posted by: Lea at February 08, 2016 01:08 PM (lIU4e)

103 RIt's gorgeous rd .

Posted by: willow at February 08, 2016 01:09 PM (C25F+)

104 >>I went to the Van Gogh museum in Amsterdam a couple years ago. And some of his stuff is amazing and I get the whole brush strokes thing but the one up top just looks like an amateur to me.

Well, yeah. Of course they looked good in Amsterdam...you were high!

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2016 01:09 PM (AimgL)

105 Mad man Vincent van Gogh
made all the critics gawk.
At first his paintings made no impression
Which increasingly fed his depression.
Crazy or not, good thing he sliced his ear and not his cock

Posted by: whatmeworry at February 08, 2016 01:10 PM (dZGNV)

106 Kurt Rambis(rim shot)

Posted by: Kurt Rambis? at February 08, 2016 01:10 PM (8aOqE)

107 Not a big fan of Van Gogh although the colors are always interesting. His paintings make me wonder if I got a hold of some of the bad acid at Woodstock. (I didn't. I never tried drugs or attended Woodstock. Other than that, the story is true.)

Posted by: JTB at February 08, 2016 01:10 PM (FvdPb)

108 That painting seems familiar. Don't know why.

Posted by: The Outlaws at February 08, 2016 01:11 PM (X+nFp)

109 "Cam Newton's failure to fall on the ball couldn't have happened to a
more classless, arrogant piece of shit quarterback. One can only hope it
will finally humble him enough to stop behaving like a braying jackass."

My Twitter feed was clogged up with 'way too many people talking about the Super Bowl as a "White Privilege" phenomenon, including Newton in the days running up to the game. Race had nothing to do with the game; it wasn't black-versus-white or any other such racial contest. If you disagree, ask Super Bowl MVP Von Miller what he thinks.

The halftime show, a nonstop paean to Black Lives Matter and the other "Panthers," was a racist display that needs to never be repeated. I hope next year the Super Bowl organizers hire Nickelback and Creed to perform. Everyone agree they're awful, and we can be unified across ethnic lines on that point.

Posted by: Qoheleth at February 08, 2016 01:11 PM (iIzG7)

110 garrett: You really need to be able to see the texture in VanGogh works to get the full effect of his technique. Prints just don't do him justice.

* puts on red-green paper-frame glasses *

Oh, yes, that's much better!

Posted by: mindful webworker - the 4-D man at February 08, 2016 01:11 PM (BN/jk)

111 "The whole Harley Earl cult of 'gorp' sacrificed genuine engineering progress on the altar of style."

Harley was a genius who was one of the first ones to figure out that fins and chrome sold cars.

Later, in the '70s and '80's the accountants took over and every car was a piece of shit on a few common platforms.

(Historical note: yours truly went perch fishing (which I hated fishing) with my late FIL, Harley Earl, Zora Arkus Duntov and Ed Kennard.

Posted by: jwest at February 08, 2016 01:11 PM (Zs4uk)

112 a lot of the late 50s GM cars were pieces of shit with underpowered engines and topheavy bodies.

But they were designed to last.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 08, 2016 01:11 PM (39g3+)

113 71 - What do you need?
Posted by: hogmartin
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Well, if I smoke my own Kosher salt, can I still call it kosher?
I didn't perform any shape-shifting rituals or anything. Yet.
Not that it's important, I'm just curious.

(BTW, You used to post under a different handle, didn't you?)

Posted by: Chi at February 08, 2016 01:11 PM (OUpHg)

114 Fond memories of crawling out from under my dad's basement workbench on orders from my mother to retrieve my father, busy photographing tornadoes on the roof.....

Posted by: pookysgirl at February 08, 2016 01:11 PM (K27gs)

115 Cam's performance after getting tagged a few times last night-

is not going to go unnoticed by other teams and other coaches.

He needs to mature fast and get a little character.

Cuz I can guarantee he's going to make the acquaintance of the turf in every stadium he's in next year.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 08, 2016 01:11 PM (0cMkb)

116 102 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob8FWxrKVZY
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 08, 2016 01:06 PM (iQIUe)

Cool! Will have to watch later, thanks.
Posted by: Lea at February 08, 2016 01:08 PM (lIU4e)

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It is certainly one of the better documentaries around and it explains Matisse's use of color and why it is so exciting. Sooke does go a bit nuts at the end but I chalk that up to being overworked and wedding jitters.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 08, 2016 01:11 PM (iQIUe)

117 #93 Yes, that is so true about Van Gogh. Saw his work this past summer at the Art Institute of Chicago. It's meant to be viewed from several different distances. Unfortunately, the mobs was busy viewing the treasures on display through the lens of their smart phones or gigantic cameras with enormous lens. It was the dumbest thing I have ever seen. If you want photos of the art, buy a book in the gift shop, your smart phone and yes, even, your big fat camera are not going to do it for you, the way professionally shot images will. USE YOUR EYES when you are in front of a treasure!

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at February 08, 2016 01:11 PM (kXoT0)

118 I wish Rush would shut the fuck up about goddamn Rubio. No matter what you say Rush, nobody trusts the bastard because of the Gang of 8 bill and his desire for some form of amnesty.

I get it, he's passed your Conservative litmus tests but we don't want that this cycle. We want monitored and secure borders and no new democrat voters from an amnesty that would fuck up this country's political make up. How hard is this to understand?

You're not going to sell me on Rubio for the Republican nomination.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 08, 2016 01:12 PM (UnJ7w)

119 "Cam gave every kid in the Carolinas a game bawl last night."

Cam Newton gave more footballs to the Broncos than he did to kids in the stands yesterday. Jus' sayin'.

Posted by: Qoheleth at February 08, 2016 01:12 PM (iIzG7)

120 Over under on the number of days before sCam rolls another truck after a night of "trying to escape the anguish of the big loss."

Posted by: I say 3 months... at February 08, 2016 01:12 PM (H9MG5)

121 You really need to be able to see the texture in VanGogh works to get the full effect of his technique. Prints just don't do him justice.

Most impressionist painters are like that. They just do not come across well in prints or photos. In person, they're magic.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 08, 2016 01:12 PM (39g3+)

122 Mescalin does a better Van Gogh than Acid.

Acid is too hard around the edges for Impressionism.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2016 01:12 PM (AimgL)

123 You really need to be able to see the texture in VanGogh works to get the full effect of his technique. Prints just don't do him justice.
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2016 01:03 PM (A___L)

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I've seen an original Van Gogh painting and noticed the texture. His "art" still sucks.

Posted by: Soona at February 08, 2016 01:13 PM (Fmupd)

124 Modern art isn't.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 08, 2016 01:13 PM (wCF3s)

125 *looks at side-bar*

"arsenal planes"

Enemy spoofs and feints at the F-22/F-35 force with two regiments of cheap fighters to keep them in a furball, while another three regiments of cheap fighters goes after the arsenal planes.

Sorry, this idea sounds a smart as the YB-40.
http://www.daveswarbirds.com/usplanes/aircraft/yb-40.htm

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 08, 2016 01:14 PM (+yaaR)

126 >>Most impressionist painters are like that. They just do not come across well in prints or photos. In person, they're magic

The works of Mark Rothko are like that, too.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2016 01:14 PM (AimgL)

127 How do they transport the water I don't use to Africa?

Posted by: Big Ben - Bonnie Blue Party at February 08, 2016 01:14 PM (DHwSI)

128 You're not going to sell me on Rubio for the Republican nomination.

I don't think he's trying to. I think he's trying to load up the present top 3 so the rest never get any momentum or surprise wins.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 08, 2016 01:14 PM (39g3+)

129 "Modern art isn't."

"You're so ugly, you could be a modern art masterpiece!" Said by whom?

Posted by: Qoheleth at February 08, 2016 01:14 PM (iIzG7)

130 >>Well, yeah. Of course they looked good in Amsterdam...you were high!

Ixnay on the ighhay.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2016 01:15 PM (/tuJf)

131 >>How do they transport the water I don't use to Africa?

In tiny bottles.

On Private Jets.

Posted by: Bono at February 08, 2016 01:15 PM (AimgL)

132 My son is such a pinhead I must have the Zika.

Posted by: Cam Newton's Momma at February 08, 2016 01:15 PM (UBS9M)

133 Nice painting - never seen this one before.
Love the colors....

Posted by: Lizzy at February 08, 2016 01:16 PM (NOIQH)

134 Was Von Miller racist for not allowing Cammie Newton to win?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 08, 2016 01:16 PM (0LHZx)

135 .I still say it's gorgeous Why because it's winter time it's dreary And this colorful and happy feeling.

Posted by: willow at February 08, 2016 01:17 PM (C25F+)

136 so I like Van Gogh, but I like Manet better

Posted by: Feh at February 08, 2016 01:17 PM (raen3)

137 How do they transport the water I don't use to Africa?

___

Same way the food you leave on your plate gets sent over.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 08, 2016 01:17 PM (0LHZx)

138 You can tell Van Gogh was a great painter by the fact that he doesn't leave any of the numbers showing.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 08, 2016 01:17 PM (oVJmc)

139 Deion Sanders and Steve Young have basically said this. Both said he cannot behave the way he did in the post game press conference, like a spoiled little brat.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 08, 2016 01:08 PM (K0Iz7)

Yeah, but, is he going to completely flame out Johhny Manziel style or just be an arrogant prick? It was interesting to note that even JM's own Dad says he's a mess who will dead within months to a year if he doesn't pull out of his destructive spiral.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at February 08, 2016 01:17 PM (kXoT0)

140 How do they transport the water I don't use to Africa?

Heh. B'Gal, a recovering Leftard, looked at me funny when that ridiculous commercial was on yesterday and I said, out loud, "That's not my problem."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 08, 2016 01:17 PM (LUgeY)

141 Dear ACE,
This blog has gone RNC Pribus style.
Think about the Old ACE where everyone got a baseball bat upon boarding.
Now the only people here who have tickets are the whoreds who minions for AOS.
Any point of dissension is greeted with reprisal from pseudo intellectuals like Maet
or
Monitors of Butt Crack as Sweat such as Buzzion
Or some identifiable feminazi who "just does not understand" by the way in most cases that's hopeless sweety.
When you control the narrative
by gang tackling anyone who differs from the swishy conservative storyline.
Like Trump said " only big donors and lobbyist get tickets"
In the case of AOS presently that's suckups and the crew. outsiders beware as your independent thoughts and actions are verboten.
just Saying..

Posted by: Wild Irish Rosee With a Skirt. at February 08, 2016 01:17 PM (hforh)

142 They were pieces of shit. This isn't some top secret. GM designed their cars so that you would buy a new one every few years. They came up with the term planned obsolescence. That's also why there were such radical designs in the body so often. Again, so that your 195X car would look way out of date in 195X+2.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo
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This explains why my '60 Cadillac with the 390 was still on the road - with all original equipment - until I sold it a few years ago. As far as I know, the guy is driving it to work today.
Or, the same year Caddy with the 500 ci that would outrun your average 5.0 '90's Mustang. Even with old bias ply tires.

Try again, son.

Posted by: Chi at February 08, 2016 01:17 PM (OUpHg)

143 Every time you spit on the sidewalk, a Peruvian child suffers a little more.

Posted by: The Colgate Water Police at February 08, 2016 01:17 PM (Dwehj)

144 NARAL was quite a presence on twitter last night; has anyone seen or read anything in the media regarding them?

Posted by: DaveinNC at February 08, 2016 01:17 PM (/NgNT)

145 Every nprmal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, get stinking drunk and cut off his penis and testicles.

Posted by: Caitlyn Mencken at February 08, 2016 01:18 PM (ML24Y)

146 His "art" still sucks.
Posted by: Soona at February 08, 2016 01:13 PM (Fmupd)

And your are entitled to your opinion. I think his "art" is wonderful.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 08, 2016 01:18 PM (UnJ7w)

147 I see a sniper way out on the horizon, but he's too far awa***twump***
***thud***

Posted by: db at February 08, 2016 01:18 PM (DofgB)

148 game bawl instead of game ball. it was a pun. because cam was a crybaby who caked his pants last night.

Posted by: nckate at February 08, 2016 01:19 PM (TNEyr)

149 Rdbrewer, Disney and Dali Museum of Florida have turned a Salvador Dali painting into an immersive 3D experience.

http://www.ufunk.net/en/tech/dreams-of-dali/

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 08, 2016 01:19 PM (+yaaR)

150 This explains why my '60 Cadillac with the 390 was still on the road - with all original equipment - until I sold it a few years ago. As far as I know, the guy is driving it to work today.
Or, the same year Caddy with the 500 ci that would outrun your average 5.0 '90's Mustang. Even with old bias ply tires.

Try again, son.
Posted by: Chi at February 08, 2016 01:17 PM (OUpHg)

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Once again....anecdotes and data....not the same thing,

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 08, 2016 01:19 PM (0LHZx)

151 55,56 & 57 Chevy's were pieces of shit? Shirley you jest.

Posted by: Javems at February 08, 2016 01:19 PM (yOqwj)

152 The works of Mark Rothko are like that, too.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2016 01:14 PM (A___L)

Yeah, I agree.

There's no way you can see the incredibly weird depth of his painting and subtle color variations

in a photo.

In person, his stuff is incredible.

In a photo, a couple of colored patches on a big canvas.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 08, 2016 01:19 PM (0cMkb)

153 I'm sorry squadron leader but I'm afraid I don't understand your banter.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 08, 2016 01:20 PM (ubByS)

154 Hillary will beat Cruz
Hillary will probably beat Rubio
Hillary might not beat Trump

everyone will beat Bernie

Posted by: Feh at February 08, 2016 01:20 PM (raen3)

155 In my fantasy world, Manning would have told Cam, "I am a great quarterback, and this is only my second ring. You may never get another chance."

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 08, 2016 01:20 PM (kKHcp)

156 (Historical note: yours truly went perch fishing (which I hated fishing) with my late FIL, Harley Earl, Zora Arkus Duntov and Ed Kennard. Posted by: jwest at February 08, 2016 01:11 PM (Zs4uk)Impressive. I've just been rereading David Halberstam's The Fifties, which is why I said my comments about 50s cars was superficial.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 08, 2016 01:20 PM (X6fMO)

157 >> Moo moo on last thread, trying to say cars from the 50's &
>> 60's were pieces of shit not designed to last 1 or 2 years.
>> His stupid burns like untreatable vd.

That's not far off. One or two is a bit short, but maybe five.

Detroit products rusted out, engine mechanicals wore out (common back in the day to require valve jobs at 50K, and 100K was considered a good life for an engine), etc.

For Detroit the 1970s was the worst. Wrong products, horrible labor relations, trying to do smog controls on the cheap, etc. The days of the 1 year/12K warranty.

Modern products are much more carefully assembled, the engines and electricals and transmissions and etc. are generally more reliable and MUCH longer-lasting. The problem of course is that they're also VASTLY more complex, which means it's basically impossible to troubleshoot most recent cars without manufacturer-specific diagnostic software (either good third-party or pirated OEM) and if you plan to own one for 10+ years you'd better be buying from a manufacturer with a good track record of parts availability (ergo stay the F away from Ford.)

Posted by: JEM at February 08, 2016 01:20 PM (o+SC1)

158
The works of Mark Rothko are like that, too.
Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2016 01:14 PM (A___L)

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I like Rothko - especially the Rockefeller Rothko.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 08, 2016 01:20 PM (iQIUe)

159 80 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 08, 2016 01:03 PM (iQIUe)
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I'm pretty sure this painting is from Auvers, a northern exurb of Paris.

Posted by: MTF at February 08, 2016 01:20 PM (TxJGV)

160 After the Obama mandate for the military to consider climate change in operations, why don't the Republicans have a bill submitted, the same day, to reduce the White House carbon foot-print by 50% starting from tomorrow.

I mean if its so important.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 08, 2016 01:21 PM (LXJ1e)

161 >>game bawl instead of game ball. it was a pun. because cam was a crybaby who caked his pants last night.

IT WAS FUNNY BECAUSE IT WAS PUNNY.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at February 08, 2016 01:21 PM (AimgL)

162 Reads "Wild Irish" comments.
Backing away......

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at February 08, 2016 01:21 PM (dQJCS)

163 That painting looks vaguely familiar...

Posted by: Bill Gates at February 08, 2016 01:21 PM (ML24Y)

164 Posted by: Wild Irish Rosee With a Skirt. at February 08, 2016 01:17 PM (hforh)

Ace made it pretty clear what he didn't like. There is a difference between a heated profane laced discussion/debate and just outright stupid slope-headed ad hominem. If you don't like it go start your own "Very Smart Military Blog".

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 08, 2016 01:21 PM (UnJ7w)

165 NARAL was quite a presence on twitter last night; has anyone seen or read anything in the media regarding them?

Lots of mocking over at Twitchy.

In the MFM, nothing but crickets since they're all fellow travelers who were not somehow aborted.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 08, 2016 01:21 PM (LUgeY)

166 >>> The trees are really short.

But they are happy.

Posted by: fluffy at February 08, 2016 01:21 PM (AfsKp)

167 Windows 95 default wallpaper.

Posted by: Bill Gates at February 08, 2016 01:22 PM (ML24Y)

168 Take away the critical narrative, and Rothko is high-end decor.

Posted by: Feh at February 08, 2016 01:22 PM (raen3)

169 Serendipity drives a lot of scientific advances. A fellow high school alumnus told me he was near the creation of the Viagra phenomenon. Someone from Pfizer's struggling penile implant division heard the joke running around the office about how the R&D guys were about to pull the plug on a failing vascular drug that had this one odd and hilarious side effect ....

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2016 01:22 PM (r1fLd)

170 Every time I wipe my ass with toilet paper, a Venezuelan child gets brown fingers.

Posted by: Soona at February 08, 2016 01:22 PM (Fmupd)

171 101
In my fantasy world Peyton Manning told him that he would have a long career ahead of him if he settled down and acted less like a dick.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 08, 2016 01:02 PM (RD7QR)

Deion Sanders and Steve Young have basically said this. Both said he cannot behave the way he did in the post game press conference, like a spoiled little brat.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 08, 2016 01:08 PM (K0Iz7)

Local news called it his best Kaepernick impression. lol. Congratulations Cam, what a way to set an example for your child fans. Asshat.

Posted by: Braying Jackass at February 08, 2016 01:22 PM (3dOE/)

172 Let's dispel this fiction that Van Gogh doesn't know what he's doing. He knows exactly what he's doing.

Posted by: Marco Rubio at February 08, 2016 01:22 PM (7wyDO)

173 Posted by: Wild Irish Rosee With a Skirt. at February 08, 2016 01:17 PM (hforh)

If you're clever and willing to engage in discussion you'll have a great time. If you come here to make a point on a soapbox you'll get flattened.

That's what the bats are for.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 08, 2016 01:22 PM (ubByS)

174 "reduce the White House carbon foot-print by 50% starting from tomorrow"

see, why isn't that killer spirit in evidence ANYWHERE in the GOP

Posted by: Feh at February 08, 2016 01:23 PM (raen3)

175 113 Well, if I smoke my own Kosher salt, can I still call it kosher?
I didn't perform any shape-shifting rituals or anything. Yet.
Not that it's important, I'm just curious.

As long as you only smoke the salt, and at the end it's still just salt, there shouldn't be any reason it wouldn't be kosher.

Kosher salt itself actually has no special properties that make it kosher, the labels on the boxes are actually just a worn-down nub of what it really is: koshering salt. Jews are forbidden to consume blood, so part of the process of making kosher meat is washing it, salting it to draw out the blood, and washing it some more to get rid of the salt and blood. Kosher(ing) salt is ideal for this because of the large grains.

(BTW, You used to post under a different handle, didn't you?)
Posted by: Chi at February 08, 2016 01:11 PM (OUpHg)

Nah, I don't think so? I've been lurking since Cake Girl but I have a compulsion to read an entire thread before posting and by the time I've done that, the new thread was posted twenty minutes ago and has 140 posts. Aaaaand now I have to read that one. ~the circle of life~
I've been out of work recovering from surgery, so this is the first time I actually can just read threads to the bottom and post.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 08, 2016 01:23 PM (NA5LM)

176 Sometimes I don't know why I waste my pearls of wisdom on you rubes.

Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at February 08, 2016 01:23 PM (Dwehj)

177 Posted by: Feh at February 08, 2016 01:20 PM (raen3)

Possibly. If the actual election were held tomorrow. But it is a long way off, and a whole lot can happen between now and then.

Posted by: db at February 08, 2016 01:23 PM (DofgB)

178 game bawl instead of game ball. it was a pun. because cam was a crybaby who caked his pants last night.
Posted by:Ben Rothlesberger at February 08, 2016 01:19 PM (TNEyr)

FIFY

To explain a football joke, you MUST post as BigBen

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 08, 2016 01:23 PM (kKHcp)

179 FenelonSpoke: ...theme to joy-on keeping a cheerful spirit...

How many people suffer the mental paralysis of fear, self-doubt, inferiority, and inadequacy! Dark thoughts blind them to the possible outcomes which the mind is well able to produce. But optimism infuses the mind with confidence and builds up belief in oneself. Result? The revitalized mind, newly energized, comes to grips with problems. Keep the paralysis of unhealthy thoughts out of that incomparable instrument, your mind.
-Norman Vincent (not Van Gogh) Peale
Have a Great Day - Every Day

Entry for.. well, tomorrow. I cheated and read ahead.

Wish I could testify to this. Cheerfulness alone will not actually create answers to problems, but at least it keeps your nose above water.

Posted by: mindful webworker - half sure half wondering at February 08, 2016 01:23 PM (BN/jk)

180 Yeah, but, is he going to completely flame out Johhny Manziel style or just be an arrogant prick? It was interesting to note that even JM's own Dad says he's a mess who will dead within months to a year if he doesn't pull out of his destructive spiral.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at February 08, 2016 01:17 PM (kXoT0)

He reminds me of an ex Bronco quarterback, who currently QBs the Chicago Bears.

I'll vote for arrogant prick.

Posted by: jwb7605 at February 08, 2016 01:24 PM (DofIg)

181 http://pointsandfigures.com/2016/02/08/some-watch-big-companies-but-its-all-on-the-consumer/

Stick a fork in this economy. Until POTUS changes, it's done.

Posted by: pointsnfigures at February 08, 2016 01:24 PM (hSpC/)

182 I'm pretty sure this painting is from Auvers, a northern exurb of Paris.
Posted by: MTF at February 08, 2016 01:20 PM (TxJGV)

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I wasnt referring to anything in particular, just stating I like Aix.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 08, 2016 01:24 PM (iQIUe)

183 #162 Yeah, was doing the same thing...slowly while never making direct eye contact.

One style tip: if one chooses to denigrate an entire blog's worth of folks, the space bar, enter key, and punctuation--any punctuation is your friend, unless one is going for the "I'm too inchoate with anger to type well" shtick.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at February 08, 2016 01:24 PM (kXoT0)

184 "a whole lot can happen between now and then"

true, I just wish it would happen faster

Posted by: Feh at February 08, 2016 01:24 PM (raen3)

185 @148- nckate, do you mind if I steal that?

Posted by: DaveinNC at February 08, 2016 01:24 PM (/NgNT)

186 I live two miles from one of the Great Lakes. If we ever have a long-term water shortage here, the rest of the world will have been f'ed a long time before that.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at February 08, 2016 01:24 PM (FQKBL)

187
After the Obama mandate for the military to consider climate change in operations, why don't the Republicans have a bill submitted, the same day, to reduce the White House carbon foot-print by 50% starting from tomorrow.

Because optics!

And RAYYYCISSS!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 08, 2016 01:24 PM (X6fMO)

188 Let's just say that Ryan Leaf watched the news about Cam Newton and Johnnie Manziel, and knows right where their lives are headed.

Posted by: Qoheleth at February 08, 2016 01:24 PM (iIzG7)

189 Thanks for the tip about viewing and appreciating Van Gogh's work. I never saw any in person but will if I get the chance.

Posted by: JTB at February 08, 2016 01:25 PM (FvdPb)

190 Looks like Rohan.

Posted by: Treebeard at February 08, 2016 01:25 PM (8aOqE)

191 129
"Modern art isn't."

"You're so ugly, you could be a modern art masterpiece!" Said by whom?

Posted by: Qoheleth at February 08, 2016 01:14 PM (iIzG7)

Hartman, RIP.

Posted by: rebel flounder at February 08, 2016 01:26 PM (3dOE/)

192 NARAL was quite a presence on twitter last night; has anyone seen or read anything in the media regarding them?

Tons of stuff on social media. They trolled the world for attention and got it in spades.

Once again....anecdotes and data....not the same thing,

While technically true, his anecdotes trump your bald assertions.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 08, 2016 01:26 PM (39g3+)

193
156 (Historical note: yours truly went perch fishing (which I hated fishing) with my late FIL, Harley Earl, Zora Arkus Duntov and Ed Kennard. Posted by: jwest at February 08, 2016 01:11 PM (Zs4uk)Impressive. I've just been rereading David Halberstam's The Fifties, which is why I said my comments about 50s cars was superficial.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 08, 2016 01:20 PM (X6fMO)

I wish I had realized how important these guys were on that trip, but I was just a kid. The person who would eventual become my FIL was a GM supplier and belonged to a yacht club north of Detroit, along with Kennard, who either ran or was about to run Cadillac at that time.

The club had a fishing charter guy who took 6 out at a time. I can handle moving in a boat, but not sitting still bobbing around, so it wasn't a great trip for me.

Posted by: jwest at February 08, 2016 01:27 PM (Zs4uk)

194 I'm curious. Why is there such universal scorn for Nickelback? They come from a town a couple of hours away from me.
FYI the only NB song I've heard is Burn it to the Ground so I have no opinion.

Posted by: Northernlurker, muzungo at February 08, 2016 01:27 PM (L09za)

195 "Every time I wipe my ass with toilet paper, a Venezuelan child gets brown fingers."

Exactly.

Wait a minute.....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 08, 2016 01:27 PM (LA7Cm)

196 Modern products are much more carefully assembled, the engines and electricals and transmissions and etc. are generally more reliable and MUCH longer-lasting. The problem of course is that they're also VASTLY more complex, which means it's basically impossible to troubleshoot most recent cars without manufacturer-specific diagnostic software (either good third-party or pirated OEM) and if you plan to own one for 10+ years you'd better be buying from a manufacturer with a good track record of parts availability (ergo stay the F away from Ford.)

Posted by: JEM at February 08, 2016 01:20 PM (o+SC1)

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And part of that is by design as well. A good example is airbags that deploy. To replace two airbags can cost $5K. So you have a 7 year old car that's perfectly fine and could last another 7 years and 100K. But it's only worth $8K. So it's simply not worth spending $5K on a car that's worth $8K. So the insurance company says write off and off to the junk yard it goes.

In a way that's no different than designing the car to completely break down after 7 years.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 08, 2016 01:27 PM (0LHZx)

197 go for it, daveinnc. no worries

Posted by: nckate at February 08, 2016 01:27 PM (TNEyr)

198 140
How do they transport the water I don't use to Africa?

Heh. B'Gal, a recovering Leftard, looked at me funny when that ridiculous commercial was on yesterday and I said, out loud, "That's not my problem."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 08, 2016 01:17 PM (LUgeY)

Sounds like the tardism is back.

Posted by: rebel flounder at February 08, 2016 01:28 PM (3dOE/)

199 I guessed that the painting was not Provence since the date is the year he died and it looks more like the work he painted during his stay with Dr. Gachet.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 08, 2016 01:28 PM (iQIUe)

200 Interesting regarding the Van Gogh thing. Of course, given my blind spot regarding paintings as art ... it probably wouldn't matter.

I honestly wonder if art appreciation ... specifically paintings ... is tied to a part of the brain that I just don't have.

Posted by: Irony at February 08, 2016 01:28 PM (BHaRb)

201 Bill Clinton tells Bernie Sanders that chicks deserve respect, even the ones that don't put out, and the ugly ones.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 08, 2016 01:29 PM (oVJmc)

202 Posted by: Wild Irish Rosee With a Skirt. at February 08, 2016 01:17 PM (hforh)

Danderous Uproars are in aisle three. Panty twisters are in the hardware aisle.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Watch Dancing With The Candidates - sponsored by the Outrage Outlet! at February 08, 2016 01:29 PM (hLRSq)

203 "Wish I could testify to this. Cheerfulness alone will not actually create answers to problems, but at least it keeps your nose above water."

I must have grown gills then.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 08, 2016 01:29 PM (kpqmD)

204 Honda Odysseys have doors that roll on small white plastic wheels

one of them probably costs 0.0000000001 of a cent to manufacture

but if it fails, and your does cannot therefore open at all, then you're probably out a minimum of $300

Posted by: Feh at February 08, 2016 01:29 PM (raen3)

205 Part of the outdoor experience is being able to "man up" when the situation calls for it.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at February 08, 2016 01:30 PM (xWW96)

206 Rush is painted into a corner by a caller. Rarely seen.

This caller points out the Limbaugh theory that "The Obama transformation is a done deal if ObamaCare stays and illegals get citizenship, and then vote Democrat"

It's an indisputable fact Rubio is a prime mover in legalization. Rush agrees that support is a huge problem for Rubio in this election, and doesn't fight back when the caller says that according to the Limbaugh theory Rubio ought to be ignored by voters.

Posted by: MTF at February 08, 2016 01:30 PM (TxJGV)

207 >>Take away the critical narrative, and Rothko is high-end decor.

I have stood in a gallery at the Met with 3 Monet Water Lilly Panels, several Manets, a Van Gogh and a single Rothko. (Annenberg Collection Opening)

The Rothko completely dominated the Monets, which were featured. So much so that it was moved later in the week to eliminate the gridlock it was causing.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2016 01:30 PM (AimgL)

208 "tied to a part of the brain that I just don't have"

maybe you have a hyper-developed bullshit detector

Posted by: Feh at February 08, 2016 01:30 PM (raen3)

209 Posted by: Northernlurker, muzungo at February 08, 2016 01:27 PM (L09za)

I think it's because they music is just played out. It's like how Creed was great when you first heard them and then after a few years of hearing them all the time the just became annoying. Plus Chad Kroeger has got a really punchable face.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 08, 2016 01:30 PM (UnJ7w)

210 194 I'm curious. Why is there such universal scorn for Nickelback? They come from a town a couple of hours away from me.
FYI the only NB song I've heard is Burn it to the Ground so I have no opinion.
Posted by: Northernlurker, muzungo at February 08, 2016 01:27 PM (L09za)

Because the mob decided it was not cool to listen to NB and the thing a mob does very well is increase its membership.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 08, 2016 01:31 PM (AEEhl)

211 Once again....anecdotes and data....not the same thing,
Posted by: Monsieur Moo
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You're not even worth it.
Anecdotes, schmanecdotes.

Dude, I would rather have a '60s GM than damn near anything on the road today. Like the '66 Riviera currently in my garage. Or the '62 Impala my neighbor drives daily, or...

Posted by: Chi at February 08, 2016 01:31 PM (OUpHg)

212 Moo Moo's comments are poorly engineered, top heavy dreck and are not intended to last more than one comment thread, or a banning, whichever comes first.

They, like as their author, are both utterly disposable, which feature is a design element from the very start.

Unlike newer, high quality comments most often found here, from the preponderance of Teh Horde.

Teh Horde writes great comments. They're tremendous. Yuge!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 08, 2016 01:31 PM (McRlu)

213 204 Honda Odysseys have doors that roll on small white plastic wheels

one of them probably costs 0.0000000001 of a cent to manufacture

but if it fails, and your does cannot therefore open at all, then you're probably out a minimum of $300
Posted by: Feh at February 08, 2016 01:29 PM (raen3)

____

You think that's bad? Try replacing a BMW or Audi key. Not unheard of for them to cost $500...for a fucking key.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 08, 2016 01:31 PM (0LHZx)

214 So, what is meatball up to?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 08, 2016 01:31 PM (iQIUe)

215 140
How do they transport the water I don't use to Africa?

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Just pour it in the ocean. The currents will take it to Africa where it will evaporate and turn into rain.

That's the most efficient way.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 08, 2016 01:32 PM (LXJ1e)

216 "fundamentally transformed"

pretty successful, I'd say

of course, he left off the "into shit" part

Posted by: Feh at February 08, 2016 01:32 PM (raen3)

217 Do you smoke Kosher salt in a bong?

Posted by: Tommy Chong at February 08, 2016 01:32 PM (FkBIv)

218 >>but if it fails, and your does cannot therefore open at all, then you're probably out a minimum of $300

A few years back, the sunroof on my Jeep Grand Cherokee broke. Well the cable on one side that pulled the window back into it's closed position broke.

But in order to replace the cable (which couldn't have cost more than a buck or two) you had to take out the headliner. Cost to fix the sunroof was over $700.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2016 01:32 PM (/tuJf)

219 I'm cool with any form of non-protest art unless it's something by Mark Rothko.

Posted by: mrp at February 08, 2016 01:32 PM (JBggj)

220 "try replacing a BMW or Audi key"

no

Posted by: Feh at February 08, 2016 01:32 PM (raen3)

221 You're not even worth it.
Anecdotes, schmanecdotes.

Dude, I would rather have a '60s GM than damn near anything on the road today.
Posted by: Chi at February 08, 2016 01:31 PM (OUpHg)

_____

Good for you.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 08, 2016 01:32 PM (0LHZx)

222 Sounds like the tardism is back.

I do still need to issue mid-course corrections occasionally.

#1 StepSon is a bad leftard. Gets all his political knowledge from the MFM, which is to say I need to show him which one's Shinola quite often.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 08, 2016 01:33 PM (LUgeY)

223 Cam Newton's failure to fall on the ball

SpaDoinkle is a fundamental property of footballs, like momentum.

Posted by: Don Martin at February 08, 2016 01:33 PM (DL2i+)

224 It's an indisputable fact Rubio is a prime mover in legalization. Rush agrees that support is a huge problem for Rubio in this election, and doesn't fight back when the caller says that according to the Limbaugh theory Rubio ought to be ignored by voters.
Posted by: MTF at February 08, 2016 01:30 PM (TxJGV)

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Well if were talking legalization, Cruz has a problem too.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 08, 2016 01:33 PM (LXJ1e)

225 eah, but, is he going to completely flame out Johhny Manziel style or just be an arrogant prick? It was interesting to note that even JM's own Dad says he's a mess who will dead within months to a year if he doesn't pull out of his destructive spiral.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at February 08, 2016 01:17 PM (kXoT0)

I don't think he'll flame out, he has just been this coddled, excused child who is extremely talented. He is now going to finally get to learn what most people learn by the time they are his age, that things don't always go your way, it isn't always easy, and you can't quit, you need to keep giving it your all.

I saw way too much " I got this in the bag, so easy, etc. " in Cam before the game and doing warm ups. The Superman shirt he wore in the early warm ups said a lot about his opinion of himself. The Broncos decided to explain it differently.

He would benefit immensely from having some older strong QB mentors who can show him the real world.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 08, 2016 01:34 PM (K0Iz7)

226 Honey? Why is there a Guatemalan girl in the bathroom drinking from the faucet?

Posted by: Colgate Toothpaste Guy at February 08, 2016 01:34 PM (rP0TY)

227 Dang, and I thought I was the first to post a Rothko comment!

Posted by: mrp at February 08, 2016 01:34 PM (JBggj)

228 194
I'm curious. Why is there such universal scorn for Nickelback? They come from a town a couple of hours away from me.

FYI the only NB song I've heard is Burn it to the Ground so I have no opinion.

It's hard to articulate but Nickleback, Creed, and Puddle of Mudd are universally scorned and they existed at what one could call a downturn in rock and roll.They are considered to be highly derivative of superior groups. They were grotesquely overplayed on FM radio. Lyrics, singing ability, and so forth were just blah.

Posted by: Naes at February 08, 2016 01:34 PM (Ypc8j)

229 "SpaDoinkle is a fundamental property of footballs, like momentum."

Especially if you clang one of them off a goalpost, if you know what I'm saying.

Posted by: Qoheleth at February 08, 2016 01:35 PM (iIzG7)

230 part of the problem is that companies make stuff that you *cannot* repair yourself, unless you have lots of time and the right tools

it's like those goddamned finish carpenters who install cabinets with star-headed or square-headed wood screws

thereby necessitating a trip to a hardware store to find the right fricking bit

Posted by: Feh at February 08, 2016 01:35 PM (raen3)

231 141-There are feminazis here? Who knew?-Did they carry around a mattress and pretend to be raped?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 08, 2016 01:35 PM (w4NZ8)

232
I think I see the invisible chicken creature.

Posted by: The Doctor

Saw a green Kia Soul with a DAVROS plate and Bad Wolf stickers last week.

Posted by: DaveA at February 08, 2016 01:35 PM (DL2i+)

233 @ 169
....wrecked'em, hell, nearly killed him!

Posted by: jon corzine Master Thief at February 08, 2016 01:35 PM (VDovR)

234 She's not Guatamalan. She's from Flint, Michigan.

Posted by: Colgate Toothpaste Girl at February 08, 2016 01:35 PM (rP0TY)

235 208 ... I don't know. But I've often thought about it.

There's alot of people here who's opinions i find agreeable who like art ... I really wish I could "see" what they see.

But I don't ... at least when it comes to paintings.

Posted by: Irony at February 08, 2016 01:37 PM (BHaRb)

236 Saw a green Kia Soul with a DAVROS plate and Bad Wolf stickers last week.
Posted by: DaveA

And it's hair was perfect.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 08, 2016 01:37 PM (FkBIv)

237 Nood. Bill Clinton Respects Chicks, or something.

Posted by: Qoheleth at February 08, 2016 01:37 PM (iIzG7)

238 210
194 I'm curious. Why is there such universal scorn for Nickelback? They come from a town a couple of hours away from me.

FYI the only NB song I've heard is Burn it to the Ground so I have no opinion.

Posted by: Northernlurker, muzungo at February 08, 2016 01:27 PM (L09za)

Because the mob decided it was not cool to listen to NB and the thing a mob does very well is increase its membership.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 08, 2016 01:31 PM (AEEhl)

What do you mean you won't carry a torch or pitchfork?

Posted by: rebel flounder, suckup at February 08, 2016 01:37 PM (3dOE/)

239 I have stood in a gallery at the Met with 3 Monet Water Lilly Panels, several Manets, a Van Gogh and a single Rothko. (Annenberg Collection Opening)

The Rothko completely dominated the Monets, which were featured. So much so that it was moved later in the week to eliminate the gridlock it was causing.

Posted by: garrett at February 08, 2016 01:30 PM (A___L)

I like Manets on my turkey sandwiches.

Speaking of Rothko, if you're ever in Houston and have time to go to the Rice university campus-

the "Rothko Chapel" is well worth a peek.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 08, 2016 01:38 PM (0cMkb)

240 Heh. Wade Phillips is trolling Cam Newton on Twitter.

Wade Phillips @sonofbum

A little Dab with do you but too much Dab will undo you!

Posted by: buzzion at February 08, 2016 01:38 PM (zt+N6)

241 Our competitor Crest uses 3% more water in the manufacture of their paste. We find this to be morally reprehensible.

Posted by: The Colgate Water Police at February 08, 2016 01:38 PM (Dwehj)

242 nickelbacks are an important part of third down defense

I must be missing something

Posted by: Feh at February 08, 2016 01:38 PM (raen3)

243 Well if were talking legalization, Cruz has a problem too.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 08, 2016 01:33 PM (LXJ1e)

No he doesn't. Just yell TRUMP 2016!! next time.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 08, 2016 01:38 PM (UnJ7w)

244 230 part of the problem is that companies make stuff that you *cannot* repair yourself, unless you have lots of time and the right tools

Engine put together, then slipped in car. Can't work on it in place? Too Fvcking Bad.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 08, 2016 01:39 PM (Z1oBf)

245 Anybody see this yet? http://trumpdonald.org/

Posted by: Zombie Al Hirt at February 08, 2016 01:39 PM (8aOqE)

246 JEM: Modern products are much more carefully assembled, the engines and electricals and transmissions and etc. are generally more reliable and MUCH longer-lasting. The problem of course is that they're also VASTLY more complex...

Our Nissan van, which has been in the shop over the weekend, apparently had a loose spark plug or something. (Will know more for sure when our mechanic gets it back to us.) It's a 2004 and seems to keep going like an energizer bunny. However, the mechanic has to take half the engine apart just to get at the spark plug.

"Something's gained and something's lost..."

Posted by: mindful webworker - can still check the oil on my own... at February 08, 2016 01:40 PM (BN/jk)

247 He would benefit immensely from having some older strong QB mentors who can show him the real world.
Posted by: Jen the original at February 08, 2016 01:34 PM (K0Iz7)

Yes. He's really young at this point. He could flame out, or he could grow up.

he looked so sad at the end of the superbowl, I hope he got a small dose of reality.

Posted by: Lea at February 08, 2016 01:40 PM (lIU4e)

248 The Rothko completely dominated the Monets, which were featured

What's popular does not translate into what's good. Just ask Justin Bieber and Beyonce.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 08, 2016 01:40 PM (39g3+)

249 Cruz's immigration plan

https://www.tedcruz.org/cruz-immigration-plan/

Posted by: Feh at February 08, 2016 01:40 PM (raen3)

250 Every time I wipe my ass with toilet paper, a Venezuelan child gets brown fingers.

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ROTFLOL

/waitasecond

Posted by: Bigby's Fudge Finger at February 08, 2016 01:41 PM (3ZtZW)

251 Ace is awake.

Posted by: HH at February 08, 2016 01:42 PM (DrCtv)

252 Dude, I would rather have a '60s GM than damn near anything on the road today.

That's because every 60s car still on the road has modern parts in it. It's an easy fallacy to fall into that old cars (or anything else) you see still running were built better, but in reality it's because their owners spent more money on them to keep them going. There's literally no 50s or 60s car that wouldn't vaporize on contact with road salt; ones that still exist either were unusually well maintained or have had body panels replaced.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 08, 2016 01:43 PM (znyNk)

253 Every time I wipe my ass with a Venezualan child . . .

Posted by: Bear Who Used to Use Rabbits at February 08, 2016 01:45 PM (rP0TY)

254 Developing ....

Flint is becoming a flashpoint in national politics. The Democrats will hold a Presidential debate there in early March. You can imagine the rhetoric already.

Hopefully the true story gets developed before then. Flint has been worse off than Detroit for some time, but has resisted municipal bankruptcy because of its unwillingness to make any cuts to its public sector retiree benefits. Flint had been buying its water from Detroit, of all places, which had jacked the rates because of its own problems. To square its budget circle, Flint got the idea to instead source its water from its river, with EPA blessing.. Recently it was learned that this water and/or the pipes from the river are lead-contaminated.

So who's fault is this? And who should pay for a new water system for Flint?

Meanwhile Puerto Rico needs a bailout. There's an argument that letting PR default will roil the market for US debt and thus cost us more in increased interest rates than anything we'd have to contribute to its bailout. Easy fix is for the US to just guaranty PR's outstanding debt. Such an easy fix, no?

Of course this sets a precedent for future Blue State / Blue City bailouts, of which there will be sure to be many.

What say you Speaker Ryan?

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2016 01:46 PM (r1fLd)

255 I'm curious. Why is there such universal scorn for Nickelback?

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Its music for people what like tattoo art on T-shirts.

Posted by: Bigby's Fudge Finger at February 08, 2016 01:46 PM (3ZtZW)

256 Posted by: Ian S. at February 08, 2016 01:43 PM (znyNk)
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I'm not sure if you're trolling, or if you're dumber than Moo Moo...

Posted by: Chi at February 08, 2016 01:47 PM (OUpHg)

257 Why is there such universal scorn for Nickelback?

Because they make the same song every time, and nobody has the heart to retroactively crucify AC/DC for doing the same thing.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 08, 2016 01:48 PM (znyNk)

258 It is interesting to me that you can trace Van Gogh's descent into madness by looking at the violence and depth of his brush strokes. Compare, for instance, this still life from 1884: http://tinyurl.com/zf3yc22 to the night sky in this painting (September 188

: http://tinyurl.com/gpx4drw to the thick chaotic style in his famous Starry Night (June 1889): http://tinyurl.com/2ypc3g.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 08, 2016 01:49 PM (OrI3J)

259 I'm not sure if you're trolling, or if you're dumber than Moo Moo...

Neither. If you're daily driving a 60s car from anywhere on all original parts, either it wasn't driven at all between the manufacture date and about 2 months ago or it's got newer parts in it.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 08, 2016 01:52 PM (znyNk)

260 Was there a good Bud ad last night I missed? They used to set the standard.

Instead, a lot of winy PC lectures. This wasn't a coincidence. It's the next step in the evolution of The Borg.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2016 01:52 PM (r1fLd)

261 I muffed that last sentence, should be "or something supernatural is going on".

Posted by: Ian S. at February 08, 2016 01:52 PM (znyNk)

262 You morons are so damned funny, I don't know what I'd do without you.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 08, 2016 01:53 PM (CFc5L)

263 243 Well if were talking legalization, Cruz has a problem too.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 08, 2016 01:33 PM (LXJ1e)

No he doesn't. Just yell TRUMP 2016!! next time.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 08, 2016 01:38 PM (UnJ7w)

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In the Bush 43 campaign and administration he worked on legalization.

When he got back to Texas he worked with a Latino group (HAPI) on legalization.

His so-called poison pill amendment to the gang of 8 bill was legalization without citizenship.

Its only after Trump got in and went to the far right of him on immigration that he move to further right too.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 08, 2016 01:56 PM (LXJ1e)

264 Why did Pixy decide my last 8 in 1888 should be a smiley face?

Posted by: redbanzai at February 08, 2016 01:57 PM (OrI3J)

265 Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 08, 2016 01:56 PM (LXJ1e)

How do you write such long posts with your pants on fire, MAGA?

Posted by: redbanzai at February 08, 2016 02:02 PM (OrI3J)

266
264 Why did Pixy decide my last 8 in 1888 should be a smiley face?

Posted by: redbanzai at February 08, 2016 01:57 PM (OrI3J)

Because you had a ) after it.

Posted by: buzzion at February 08, 2016 02:02 PM (zt+N6)

267 When we got out of bed this morning, we knew it was going to be a spadoinkle day.

Posted by: Zombie Donner Party at February 08, 2016 02:06 PM (bpn7O)

268 How do you write such long posts with your pants on fire, MAGA?
Posted by: redbanzai at February 08, 2016 02:02 PM (OrI3J)

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Nothing wrong with pointing out opposing candidate problems. Heaven knows people point out Trump's problems.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 08, 2016 02:28 PM (LXJ1e)

269 Because you had a ) after it.

Posted by: buzzion at February 08, 2016 02:02 PM (zt+N6)

Thanks for popping in from the afterlife to pass along that news I can use:-)

Posted by: redbanzai at February 08, 2016 02:36 PM (OrI3J)

270 Nothing wrong with pointing out opposing candidate problems. Heaven knows people point out Trump's problems.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 08, 2016 02:28 PM (LXJ1e)

you are not pointing out Cruz "problems"; you are lying. At the point Cruz consulted with Bush 43, Bush was not for amnesty (or at least wasn't talking about amnesty). Cruz did not "work on legalization" for Bush.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 08, 2016 02:44 PM (OrI3J)

271 ahem
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/28/ted-cruz-s-flat-out-lie-on-immigration.html

Posted by: ChocoCheese at February 08, 2016 02:47 PM (OvUux)

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