Our Headlong Charge Back To Pre-Industrial Society (CBD)

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Sometime commenter and beer guru Beeerslinger sent this along. Cocktail guide offers recipes made with urine. it reminded me of the discussion (was it yesterday) about tiny houses, and the Left's desire to return to a pre-industrial-revolution quality of life. People drank urine because they were ignorant of science, and relied on alchemists and "physicians" to cure their ailments. But we know exactly what urine is....waste products from metabolism, and the body balancing various other compounds. This is not clever deduction....this is well known. Because 2,500 years of Western philosophy and intellectual development has taught us how to study the world and discern facts from bullshit. And drinking urine is bullshit -- it hearkens back to an ignorance based on lack of knowledge -- but we don't have that excuse any more.

Am I making too much of this? Is this simply a bunch of rich people with too much time on their hands? 10 years ago I would have laughed, and chalked this up to stupidity and boredom. But I am now deeply suspicious of any attempt to reject science and logic. And I think this is exactly that.

But......

Seamus Muldoon brings up an excellent point.

maybe it is not so much a rejection of science as it is a rejection of statistics. By that I mean, the element of society that you are reading about in such an article have rejected a sense of 'normal' in the statistical sense. Perhaps it stems from a deep-rooted desire (which they change to mean a 'need' or even a 'God-given right') to stand out from the crowd. If someone is unable to achieve excellence in a productive way, they might seek excellence in a self-destructive way.

There should still be nothing wrong with reaching one's potential (give it your best), but if that puts you within two standard deviations from the mean in everyday things, it just isn't enough to make someone feel special these days. Hence the rampant celebration of the ever more aberrant. They have to be hipper and edgier than the hip and edgy.

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1 Doom.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 06, 2016 11:04 AM (t5zYU)

2 It's a beverage and an art media!!!

Posted by: Clarney at February 06, 2016 11:05 AM (hEhda)

3 Tom Cruise and that Australian guy movie?

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 06, 2016 11:08 AM (JO9+V)

4 Swamp air and bad, unbalanced, bodily humors.

Posted by: Weasel at February 06, 2016 11:09 AM (e3bId)

5 Meh. These same people drinking pee wine will be on their iphone 6 posting about it to Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. I'm not too worried about them wanting to go back to pre-industrial times.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 06, 2016 11:09 AM (0LHZx)

6 "Cocktail guide offers recipes made with urine...."

This, along with Krak's sour post about abandoning science, and Y-Not's about deteriorating national sovereignty, re just making my Saturday bright and sunny, yessir.

Speaking of sunny, nice day out. Thinking I'll take a walk. Urine yur own on this one. P!$$es me off.

Posted by: mindful webworker - never underestimate stupid at February 06, 2016 11:09 AM (H/5vA)

7 Am I making too much of this?

Yes. We should be talking about Cindy Crawford in the Pepsi ad.

Without looking, in what kind of car did she pull up to the gas station in the original ad?

Posted by: trivia at February 06, 2016 11:09 AM (ciWdF)

8 It's just potty parity vis a vis the Jizz-tini.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 06, 2016 11:09 AM (WkMnJ)

9 Can I get me one of them horse semen cocktails here?

Posted by: John Kerry at February 06, 2016 11:10 AM (JO9+V)

10 We know there are 53% of the voters who drink piss.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 06, 2016 11:10 AM (t2KH5)

11 Mental illness is ugly.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 06, 2016 11:11 AM (Nwg0u)

12 Thinking I'll take a walk.

Not me. I'm modern, rational, fully Westernized.
I am going for a drive.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 06, 2016 11:11 AM (xq1UY)

13 Meh, people have been drinking Miller Light for years...

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 06, 2016 11:11 AM (fC9RO)

14
Without looking, in what kind of car did she pull up to the gas station in the original ad?
Posted by: trivia at February 06, 2016 11:09 AM (ciWdF)

Lamborghini?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 06, 2016 11:12 AM (0LHZx)

15 There are many, many ideas being floated about these days that not long ago would've had you laughed out of your local bar.

Like the ridiculous notion that mankind has any ability to affect weather. Or animals having legal rights (I'll let them have it when they can sign a contract, not before).

We're awash in a sea of bullshit. This is the Misinformation Age.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 06, 2016 11:12 AM (LUgeY)

16 Buck up, mindful!

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 06, 2016 11:12 AM (t5zYU)

17 I'm going to pass on that.

Posted by: lonetown at February 06, 2016 11:12 AM (M6Esb)

18 Consider giving the Mother's Bloody Mary concoction a miss.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 06, 2016 11:12 AM (JO9+V)

19 We should be talking about Cindy Crawford in the Pepsi ad.

Just as hot at 49.

Posted by: t-bird at February 06, 2016 11:13 AM (yddCj)

20 I'm reminded of a cartoon, it may have been in Penthouse in the early 80s, where a group of people are being interviewed by a news crew outside an elevator with an 'out of order' sign taped on the front. "We were trapped for nearly three hours and had to drink our own urine to survive."

Posted by: Epobirs at February 06, 2016 11:13 AM (IdCqF)

21 And suddenly Hillary!'s 'dancing' video makes sense.

Posted by: Weasel at February 06, 2016 11:13 AM (e3bId)

22 Might as well move to Botswainia. They'll be the advanced country in a few years.

Posted by: Soona at February 06, 2016 11:13 AM (Fmupd)

23 Maybe I'm misrembering but isn't their Biblical reference to drinking ones own urine?

Can't remember if was in the pro or anti category.

Posted by: ugg boots at February 06, 2016 11:13 AM (fbovC)

24 At the theatuh. The new Russell Crowe hit man movie looks pretty funny, so there's that.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 06, 2016 11:14 AM (WkMnJ)

25 We know there are 53% of the voters who drink piss.

That's oogy!

Another bowl of steaming hot man chowder, please, Mummy?

Posted by: Pajama Boy at February 06, 2016 11:14 AM (yddCj)

26 We're awash in a sea of bullshit.




I paint this!! Yes

Posted by: Salvador Deli at February 06, 2016 11:15 AM (JO9+V)

27 Want to see what urine tastes like? Try a shot of slivovitz at room temperature.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 06, 2016 11:15 AM (U6f54)

28 I can't find the clip, but look up the Blackadder II "Potato" episode. Tom Baker plays a mad captain. There's an urine-drinking scene at one point. Very good episode.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 06, 2016 11:15 AM (t5zYU)

29 At the theatuh. The new Russell Crowe hit man movie looks pretty funny, so there's that.
Posted by: All Hail Eris



*perks up*


Russell Crowe hit man movie?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at February 06, 2016 11:16 AM (1xUj/)

30 Are you making too much of it? Yes and no.

No, not in the abstract. Everything you write is accurate, and this is yet another example of "Dude, don't you even science?" mentality at work. These are the same morons who believe that the oceans will rise 100 feet next year, and other such tripe.

OTOH, there is still enough common sense in enough people that I don't believe this will become wide-spread. I ain't drinking pee, and nobody in my family is drinking pee, and none of my friends are drinking pee, etc., because that is just disgusting.

And that's why, outside of NYC and San Franfreakshow and other such bastions of lunacy, this won't catch on - and even there, it won't last long.

No big deal, ultimately

Posted by: RobM1981 at February 06, 2016 11:16 AM (zurJC)

31 @23 Love to see the cite on that. We have some fair-to-middlin' Biblical scholars here. Maybe somebody knows off the top of their Leviticus head?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 06, 2016 11:16 AM (xq1UY)

32 Who needs science when you've got the intertubez?

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 06, 2016 11:16 AM (wYnyS)

33 i forget where I read this (probably here):


There's a new cologne for men

which you "personalize" by adding some of your urine to the bottle.


Yes, Ladies - now your man can smell just like Bernie Sanders after he....uh....

releases the dragon in his Depends.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 06, 2016 11:17 AM (KUa85)

34 I thought Lite Beer From Miller took care of modern society's infatuation with urine-flavored spirits. Or maybe it was Coor Light.

Posted by: Fritz at February 06, 2016 11:17 AM (UzPAd)

35 Is this the urine thread?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 06, 2016 11:17 AM (w06Yj)

36 The eco-progtards are so f'd up, their visions of utopia are all starting to be in conflict w/each other. Jen was commenting on movements du jour re: Pam Anderson. The one that is most disturbing to me is the increasing call to "local." On close examination, this sounds like the covert expression of commune based living, that ONLY works (to a limited degree) in mono cultures. In any other circumstance, it results in tribalism. State of nature, here we come!

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 06, 2016 11:17 AM (5buP8)

37 Fear Factor was ahead of its time, gastronomically speaking.

Posted by: Joe Rogan at February 06, 2016 11:18 AM (JO9+V)

38 I thought Lite Beer From Miller took care of modern society's infatuation with urine-flavored spirits. Or maybe it was Coor Light.

Bud Light. They can pour that right back into the horse AFAIC.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 06, 2016 11:18 AM (LUgeY)

39 I know most progressives eat a closely related by-product!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 06, 2016 11:18 AM (wYnyS)

40 People drank urine because they were ignorant of science

New debate format, Donald: can you convince the Democrat moderator to drink your piss?

I predict golden ratings.

Posted by: t-bird at February 06, 2016 11:18 AM (yddCj)

41 BatsWaynia? I'm in.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at February 06, 2016 11:18 AM (WkMnJ)

42 Will there be a Raphael Schumacher Special Oscar this year?
I have some nominations...
Acting!

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 06, 2016 11:19 AM (xq1UY)

43 27 Want to see what urine tastes like? Try a shot of slivovitz at room temperature.
Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 06, 2016 11:15 AM (U6f54)
***
What pit of hell spawned thy lying soul?

Room-temp slivo tastes like degreaser.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 06, 2016 11:19 AM (lutOX)

44 The left, as always, worships at the altar of base bodily functions as their holy aspiration.

Lacking a spiritual relationship with The Creator, they can only envision the sensations of the flesh as a poor substitute for enlightenment.

To a baby, having it's ass wiped with a warm wet cloth feels good, and so they pursue that infantile fulfillment for the remainder of their days.

Seeing an erstwhile "adult" reduced to defecating on a police car "in protest", is but a manifestation of these fixations.

As Mr. B. Beck would be wont to say; "The Endarkenment Continues".



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 06, 2016 11:19 AM (McRlu)

45 Saw AC/DC last nite at the MGM. They still got it. No politics, no bullshit, just kick ass music. One of the best shows I've ever seen.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 06, 2016 11:19 AM (Z/+J6)

46 No big deal, ultimately

Posted by: RobM1981 at February 06, 2016 11:16 AM (zurJC)

What concerns me is the slow degradation of the Western desire to leave shamanism and voodoo and alchemy and magic behind.

Just look at the popularity of homeopathy....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 06, 2016 11:19 AM (Zu3d9)

47 I don't want to drink a cocktail that tastes like the public swimming pool!

Posted by: Kindltot at February 06, 2016 11:19 AM (q2o38)

48 I ain't drinking pee, and nobody in my family is drinking pee

But Gandhi!

Posted by: Teh Left at February 06, 2016 11:19 AM (yddCj)

49 When the absurd becomes the norm

Posted by: Skip at February 06, 2016 11:19 AM (HWcaz)

50 And that's why, outside of NYC and San Franfreakshow and other such bastions of lunacy, this won't catch on - and even there, it won't last long.

No big deal, ultimately
Posted by: RobM1981 at February 06, 2016 11:16 AM (zurJC)

______

Good point. This is another one of the MSM "trends" whereby it's 150 people doing it, one of whom is the sister of the reporter's college roommate, who broke the story.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 06, 2016 11:19 AM (0LHZx)

51 " Or maybe it was Coor Light."



Queer's Delight?


Okay, I'm probably in Federal trouble now.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 06, 2016 11:20 AM (w06Yj)

52 Okay, I get the Bible reference. Context. It's talking about a man loving his wife and not straying, 'drinking from his own cistern'.

No urine involved.

Posted by: ugg boots at February 06, 2016 11:21 AM (fbovC)

53 Them aint olives in your appletini.

Posted by: Joe Rogan at February 06, 2016 11:21 AM (JO9+V)

54 Isaiah 36:13

But Rabshakeh said, Hath my master sent me to thy master and to thee to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 06, 2016 11:22 AM (Nwg0u)

55 I'm confused.
Is this a post about Bear Grylls?

Posted by: Chi at February 06, 2016 11:22 AM (2tQk+)

56 I think I'll stick to scotch, neat, thank you

Posted by: Skip at February 06, 2016 11:23 AM (HWcaz)

57 Urine is at its freshest straight from the tap.

Posted by: Lefty Mixologist at February 06, 2016 11:23 AM (yddCj)

58 I don't want to drink a cocktail that tastes like the public swimming pool!

Posted by: Kindltot at February 06, 2016 11:19 AM (q2o3



We went to one of the local water parks a few years ago-

and the kiddos were all pissed at me cuz I wouldn't let them float around in-

"The Endless River".

You could literally smell the pee odor coming off that thing when you were 5-10 feet away.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 06, 2016 11:23 AM (KUa85)

59 Well the GOPe, McCain, McConnell, Ryan, and friends, expect us to eat shit all the time what's a little urine to add in the mix?

Posted by: Arnold Schwartzenegger at February 06, 2016 11:23 AM (8852Y)

60 Piss drinking sons of circus whores!

Posted by: DanInMN at February 06, 2016 11:24 AM (15ZVX)

61 "'m confused.
Is this a post about Bear Grylls?"


He just likes to drink urine. Not drink in general. If that helps.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 06, 2016 11:25 AM (w06Yj)

62 My dead broke loony SIL from Brooklyn paid a "holistic healer" in California hundreds of dollars for advice. She never saw him. He never examined her. But after speaking to him on the phone and charging her hundred of dollars he advised her to drink her urine and she did


This same woman does not "believe" in vaccinating her daughter, is anorexic in her eating habits, and develops "allergies" to everything under the sun

Posted by: ThunderB at February 06, 2016 11:25 AM (zOTsN)

63 CBD-

maybe it is not so much a rejection of science as it is a rejection of statistics. By that I mean, the element of society that you are reading about in such an article have rejected a sense of 'normal' in the statistical sense. Perhaps it stems from a deep-rooted desire (which they change to mean a 'need' or even a 'God-given right') to stand out from the crowd. If someone is unable to achieve excellence in a productive way, they might seek excellence in a self-destructive way.

There should still be nothing wrong with reaching one's potential (give it your best), but if that puts you within two standard deviations from the mean in everyday things, it just isn't enough to make someone feel special these days. Hence the rampant celebration of the ever more aberrant. They have to be hipper and edgier than the hip and edgy.

I'm just thinking out loud here, could be wrong.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 11:25 AM (NeFrd)

64 What concerns me is the slow degradation of the Western desire to leave shamanism and voodoo and alchemy and magic behind.

Just look at the popularity of homeopathy....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 06, 2016 11:19 AM


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Just look at what we used to laugh at as totally absurd just a few years ago, and today it's mainstream.

This country, as well as the rest of western civilization, is so fucking boned.

Posted by: Soona at February 06, 2016 11:26 AM (Fmupd)

65 Christie - Yellow River -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ5-FoiBuVc

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 06, 2016 11:26 AM (LUgeY)

66 um, no.
Great White Snark, I was unaware that Trey Parker and Matt Stone had written a translation of the Bible.

I can't wait to see what they do with the story of Samson and Goliath.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 06, 2016 11:27 AM (q2o38)

67 We went to one of the local water parks a few years ago-



and the kiddos were all pissed at me cuz I wouldn't let them float around in-



"The Endless River".



You could literally smell the pee odor coming off that thing when you were 5-10 feet away.





Posted by: naturalfake at February 06, 2016 11:23 AM (KUa85)



They should have laid off the asparagus.

Posted by: Joe Rogan at February 06, 2016 11:27 AM (JO9+V)

68 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 11:25 AM (NeFrd)

It's considered bad form around here to make a better point than the poster in the first 75 comments.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 06, 2016 11:28 AM (Zu3d9)

69 That's golden Jerry, golden.

Who knew he was talking about chugging urine back in the Seinfeld days.

Posted by: Arnold Schwartzenegger at February 06, 2016 11:29 AM (8852Y)

70 I'm not fully on board with this return to pre-industrial times, but I am looking forward to the day when the loser of a political campaign can expect the victor to cut out his heart and eat it on live television... or live cave drawings or whatever.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 06, 2016 11:29 AM (TOk1P)

71 Not a big deal but... it WOULD be the biggest of deals, ,and extremely revealing, if some Dem debate moderator asked either of the relativistic prunes running for the Dem nomination what their position is on drinking urine cocktails.

Guarantee you that you would not hear a 'no way'...but instead you would hear a lot of philosophizing on the relative value of piss as a 'green' source of liquid.

Yes, Bern and Hill are THAT cravenly stupid...and the people who vote for them as well.

Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at February 06, 2016 11:29 AM (jagfX)

72 Just look at the popularity of homeopathy....

The death of Warren G. Harding more or less forced Ohio State's hand, and they had to close their college of homeopathy. If Harding hadn't been from Ohio...

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 06, 2016 11:29 AM (xq1UY)

73 "Just look at what we used to laugh at as totally absurd just a few years ago, and today it's mainstream.

This country, as well as the rest of western civilization, is so fucking boned."


Outta be a Bible verse.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 06, 2016 11:30 AM (w06Yj)

74
Last nite I dreamt that I was in an LA dive bar that looked like an old wooden garage, tossing back $2 margaritas with Dave Navarro, Ashton Kutcher, and a friend of mine. Drinks were good. No urine.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 06, 2016 11:31 AM (iQIUe)

75 Outta be a Bible verse.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 06, 2016 11:30 AM (w06Yj)

3 Corinthians out of 4 say WASTF!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 06, 2016 11:32 AM (wYnyS)

76 They have to be hipper and edgier than the hip and edgy.

I'm just thinking out loud here, could be wrong.



IMHO, it's all just egos striving for what all egos crave: attention.

With today's level of technology, we've raised attention seeking to an art form, for certain values of "art," that is.

Adults outgrow this childish stage.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 06, 2016 11:32 AM (LUgeY)

77 What is this?! It tastes like piss!

What?

Posted by: eman at February 06, 2016 11:32 AM (MQEz6)

78 Check the addition to the post.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 06, 2016 11:32 AM (Zu3d9)

79 Meh, people have been drinking Miller Light for years...
Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 06, 2016 11:11 AM (fC9RO)

Candidate for threadwinner. Not a lock, but good.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 06, 2016 11:33 AM (kKHcp)

80 It's considered bad form around here to make a better point than the poster in the first 75 comme nts.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


****

Oh heavens no! Just picked it up and looked at it from a different angle. The whole rejection of science thing is interesting. Especially considering the selectiveness with which most folks (regardless of political orientation) reject or accept science. Like picking through a salad to avoid the radishes and

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 11:33 AM (NeFrd)

81 >> Cocktail guide offers recipes made with urine.

I love that you can substitute Bud Light for the urine if you're really desperate.

Posted by: Andy at February 06, 2016 11:34 AM (aR91B)

82 Great White Snark, I was unaware that Trey Parker and Matt Stone had written a translation of the Bible.

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That's the McCoy, King James Version. Look it up. Sennacherib, the King of Assyria, is threatening King Hezekiah of Jerusalem saying give me my way or you'll be besieged and thirst and starve until you go San Francisco.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 06, 2016 11:34 AM (Nwg0u)

83 still waiting for the cocktails made from floor wax/dessert topping

Posted by: chemjeff at February 06, 2016 11:34 AM (uZNvH)

84 CBD-



maybe it is not so much a rejection of science as it is a rejection
of statistics. By that I mean, the element of society that you are
reading about in such an article have rejected a sense of 'normal' in
the statistical sense. Perhaps it stems from a deep-rooted desire
(which they change to mean a 'need' or even a 'God-given right') to
stand out from the crowd. If someone is unable to achieve excellence in
a productive way, they might seek excellence in a self-destructive way.




There should still be nothing wrong with reaching one's potential
(give it your best), but if that puts you within two standard deviations
from the mean in everyday things, it just isn't enough to make someone
feel special these days. Hence the rampant celebration of the ever more
aberrant. They have to be hipper and edgier than the hip and edgy.



I'm just thinking out loud here, could be wrong.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 11:25 AM (NeFrd)


Perhaps. And there might also be a correlation between the desire/need to feel "special" and the fact that our children are being taught from an early age, the insanely incongruent notion that everyone IS special... and we're not going to keep score.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 06, 2016 11:34 AM (TOk1P)

85 They gloss over Isaiah 36 in Sunday school.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 06, 2016 11:35 AM (Nwg0u)

86 I do kind of wonder if the Holistic Healers start out thinking they have a way to heal the world, and wind up realizing that they are dealing with self panicking fools, people who want to be trendy, and neurotics, and the people who are really suffering may not have any real cure, and they realize they could prescribe puppy-poo face packs and eating frozen lizards and the same number of people would claim they got better,

Posted by: Kindltot at February 06, 2016 11:35 AM (q2o38)

87 Simpler idea....

Humans have an innate need to believe in something.

Whether a code of conduct, religion, a philosophy.... the human mind will search until it finds something.

Since most of the Left have dismissed Western Religion... American values were degraded and dismissed in Schools (no Patriotism)... and you can't believe your CULTURE is better (multiculturalism)...

The more healthy normal outlets for that belief are denied to the Left....

So they go whack job. They believe in Global Warming like a religion... they believe in the BLM crap... they believe that somehow the Gay lifestyle is superior...

Because to admit that the West has done some good thing... had some good thought... come up with some good philosophies... they must then be willing to DEFEND those things...

So, we then get whack job ideas followed with religious fervor....

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 06, 2016 11:35 AM (f7rv6)

88 Oh, and btw. Civilization isn't totally lost. Read the WZ article on what Russian men do to muzzies that attempt to be rapists.

Posted by: Soona at February 06, 2016 11:35 AM (Fmupd)

89 "It's considered bad form around here to make a better point than the poster in the first 75 comments."



More conditions? Fark.

Not that I have anything intelligent to add. But, on the odd chance I did.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 06, 2016 11:36 AM (w06Yj)

90 I know there's Crux stuff, and urine stuff and all the problems of the world, but there is also a Cindy Crawford sighting in the sidebar.

Cindy Crawford.

Posted by: MTF at February 06, 2016 11:37 AM (TxJGV)

91 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 11:33 AM (NeFrd)

No, you made an excellent point.

It certainly dovetails nicely with the idea that our very success in the West has provided these people with the leisure time to worry more about their special snowflake status than where their next meal is coming from.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 06, 2016 11:37 AM (Zu3d9)

92 "Just look at what we used to laugh at as totally absurd just a few years ago, and today it's mainstream.

This country, as well as the rest of western civilization, is so fucking boned."


Outta be a Bible verse.

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In Lamentations.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 06, 2016 11:37 AM (Nwg0u)

93 Just look at the popularity of homeopathy....

Homeopathy isn't totally bogus, IMO; I've taken some homeopathic remedies for colds and sore throats such (Not major things) and it's helped/ You don't want to go crazy with it though and take if tor things that are better addressed by traditional medicine

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 06, 2016 11:37 AM (w4NZ8)

94 SuperBetaProstate. aka SuperWhizz

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 06, 2016 11:38 AM (JO9+V)

95
93 Just look at the popularity of homeopathy....

Homeopathy isn't totally bogus, IMO; I've taken some homeopathic remedies for colds and sore throats such (Not major things) and it's helped/ You don't want to go crazy with it though and take if tor things that are better addressed by traditional medicine
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 06, 2016 11:37 AM (w4NZ

By what mechanism does it work?

Posted by: eman at February 06, 2016 11:38 AM (MQEz6)

96 "3 Corinthians out of 4 say WASTF!"


They make pretty good leather, so, I guess I gotta pay them some attention.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 06, 2016 11:39 AM (w06Yj)

97 Morning horde.

Range day....

and I just got the mail and my CCW permit was there.

Woo hoo!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 06, 2016 11:39 AM (hlMPp)

98 Did you ever notice how in every dystopian novel or movie, the crazies are the ones with all the good stuff, living in the mega-metropolis, while those who still have their wits about them live in abject misery and poverty?


That's seems to be the "arc of history" for the last few decades.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 06, 2016 11:39 AM (kKHcp)

99 "In Lamentations."


*Trying to find Bible, do some reading up*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 06, 2016 11:41 AM (w06Yj)

100 Whether you're going gluten free (hint: only 1% of the population has it), anti-vaccine, non-GMO, adopting some re-invent the wheel exercise routine like Crossfit, gobbling down fistfuls of unneeded vitamins, or drinking your morning piss, there is something about health/wellness industry that lends itself to old wives' tales, bullshit, "secrets," implausible conspiracies, and so on.

Posted by: Naes at February 06, 2016 11:42 AM (Ypc8j)

101 By what mechanism does it work?

As I don't have any homeopathic remedies on hand I can't tell you specifically, but generally it has to do with plants or herbs-which have been used for centuries to help cure things. For example, ginger helps people with nausea.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 06, 2016 11:42 AM (w4NZ8)

102 What concerns me is the slow degradation of the Western desire to leave shamanism and voodoo and alchemy and magic behind.

Just look at the popularity of homeopathy....


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 06, 2016 11:19 AM (Zu3d9)


I think its more a rejection of Western Medicines dismissal of Faith and Belief in the healing process.

The Human mind can be a very powerful driver of health...

The Holistic healers are just the Faith Healers of old... trying to tap into that piece of the healing mechanism...

Plus... what happens when you convince a hypochondriac they are cured?

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 06, 2016 11:42 AM (f7rv6)

103 Hey, they are called "cock" tails for a reason...

Posted by: Bigsmith at February 06, 2016 11:42 AM (m4vcY)

104 Apropros of nothing, I finally watched that Mike Rowe/rats video in the sidebar.
Afterwards, a "suggested" video from youtube was a Craig Ferguson clip of him interviewing some actress (?) named Alice Eve.
Wow. Just, wow. Why have I never heard of her, and where has she been all my life?
Makes you forget that Lily from the AT&T commercials even exists.

Posted by: Chi at February 06, 2016 11:42 AM (2tQk+)

105 "63
CBD-



maybe it is not so much a rejection of science as it is a rejection
of statistics. By that I mean, the element of society that you are
reading about in such an article have rejected a sense of 'normal' in
the statistical sense. Perhaps it stems from a deep-rooted desire
(which they change to mean a 'need' or even a 'God-given right') to
stand out from the crowd. If someone is unable to achieve excellence in
a productive way, they might seek excellence in a self-destructive way.




There should still be nothing wrong with reaching one's potential
(give it your best), but if that puts you within two standard deviations
from the mean in everyday things, it just isn't enough to make someone
feel special these days. Hence the rampant celebration of the ever more
aberrant. They have to be hipper and edgier than the hip and edgy.



I'm just thinking out loud here, could be wrong.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 11:25 AM (NeFrd)"


I think that this is pretty close. A whole lot of what hipsters do is "signaling" sometimes it is virtue signaling and sometimes it is signaling that one is not part of the boring bourgeoisie. A significant fraction of the population in New York were raised somewhere else where they were malcontents. They moved to someplace where their inability to fit into normal society is seen as a virtue.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at February 06, 2016 11:42 AM (QHgTq)

106 But Isaiah 36 is a quote from Sennacherib's message to the Jews, not a line from a prophet. It does show that shit-eating and piss-drinking were generally looked down upon by Assyrians (things may have changed, have to look that up), but it's not an injunction from the Almighty. We'll have to resort to the Concordance.

Let's see now, "P." P is for...

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 06, 2016 11:43 AM (xq1UY)

107 13 Meh, people have been drinking Miller Light for years...
Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 06, 2016 11:11 AM (fC9RO)


They're talking about human piss, not horse piss.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at February 06, 2016 11:43 AM (O4NI/)

108 98 Did you ever notice how in every dystopian novel or movie, the crazies are the ones with all the good stuff, living in the mega-metropolis, while those who still have their wits about them live in abject misery and poverty?


That's seems to be the "arc of history" for the last few decades.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 06, 2016 11:39 AM (kKHcp)
***
The decay of a cosmopolis is the decay of a a cosmopolis - we've seen this thing before, and will live to see it again.

And let me add - a cosmopolitan can afford to be dumb and crazy; the infrastructure supports him.

The impoverished and rural, however, do not have this luxury. And hunger sharpens the wits.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 06, 2016 11:43 AM (lutOX)

109 "Range day....

and I just got the mail and my CCW permit was there.
"



What you shooting? May try to sight-in a rifle today. Ranch range.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 06, 2016 11:43 AM (w06Yj)

110 And taking ginger for nausea does not mean you're going to run out and drink urine, which I think would be more lilkely to cause nausea.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 06, 2016 11:43 AM (w4NZ8)

111 I've taken some homeopathic remedies for colds...

****

Reminds me of the time I was working in an adolescent clinic back in the day. A mom rushed in late on a Friday afternoon with her teenaged son in tow. "Are you still open?"

"Yes, we are, how can I help you."

"I'm just glad you can see him today, I think he has a cold and I was afraid he would be better by Monday."

After checking him over I said, "Don't be afraid, he does, and he will."


Guess I could have given her a homeopathic "cure" or had him drink his own urine. The result of the cold would have been the same and she might have thought I was a genius instead of a smart ass.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 11:43 AM (NeFrd)

112 99 "In Lamentations."


*Trying to find Bible, do some reading up*
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 06, 2016 11:41 AM (w06Yj)


-------------------


The best book in the Bible about cause and effect plus their consequences is Proverbs.

Posted by: Soona at February 06, 2016 11:44 AM (Fmupd)

113 Just look at the popularity of homeopathy....



Homeopathy isn't totally bogus, IMO; I've taken some homeopathic
remedies for colds and sore throats such (Not major things) and it's
helped/ You don't want to go crazy with it though and take if tor things
that are better addressed by traditional medicine

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 06, 2016 11:37 AM (w4NZ


The problem with homeopathic remedies is not that they won't work, it's that they haven't been shown to work under rigorously controlled trials.

What most people know, even if we don't think about it, is that we get better. Because our bodies are designed to do that. So whatever it is that ails us, more often than not, merely letting our bodies heal themselves will do the trick. So when we take "something" immediately after developing symptoms, and all through the course of our illness, and we then get better?

We can attribute that to the stuff we took, but really, we don't know. We can't know. And if there isn't any credible evidence out there that it does work? I have no interest in fooling myself into believing it did.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 06, 2016 11:44 AM (TOk1P)

114
SuperBetaProstate. aka SuperWhizz


VitaMeataVegamin FTW!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 06, 2016 11:44 AM (LUgeY)

115 Lordy, I am so old that in college as an AE major discussing space habitats I recall that the ewww factor led astronauts to not want to drink water that came from recycled piss even after a filter had removed all the ammonia and waste products. I guess if we ever revive a space program that won't be problem if they recruit from the hipster set.

Posted by: PaleRider at February 06, 2016 11:44 AM (chkUd)

116 In the words of Frank Zappa
"Watch you were the huskies go
And don't you eat that yellow snow"

Posted by: Skip at February 06, 2016 11:44 AM (HWcaz)

117 you know, all I want is to just be boring. boring is peaceful and peaceable.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 06, 2016 11:45 AM (Cq0oW)

118 No. Ick.

Posted by: huerfano at February 06, 2016 11:46 AM (NSb9d)

119 I just hope Seamus doesn't start with any piss-poor puns.

Posted by: Chi at February 06, 2016 11:46 AM (2tQk+)

120 Doesn't homeopathy involve extreme dilution of medicines with the expectation that the new solution will "remember" to be effective?

Posted by: eman at February 06, 2016 11:46 AM (MQEz6)

121 Fenelon-

Homeopathy and herbal remedies are not the same thing.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 11:46 AM (NeFrd)

122 If someone is unable to achieve excellence in a productive way, they might seek excellence in a self-destructive way.


I was involved at early age (early 20's circa 1975) with an artist who wanted to play Mrs. Robinson with me. I deferred. But she was somewhat fascinating, and quite good, work actually in big dc museum. Anyway she told of an artist she knew who was extremely proficient, and put her work to shame.

He arranged with some canning factory to take his feces and can it. Made some original artwork for the label. My artist muse wished that she had a can, because it had become so valuable.

It wasn't self-destructive behavior by the shit-canner.

Reading this back, this seems absurd. But all true.

Posted by: ugg boots at February 06, 2016 11:47 AM (fbovC)

123 I just hope Seamus doesn't start with any piss-poor puns.

Posted by: Chi at February 06, 2016 11:46 AM (2tQk+)


****

Nope, not my thing.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 11:47 AM (NeFrd)

124 The old Sterch's Bar, Chicago, decades ago, before they painted over the classic graffiti'd men's room, there was a series of small rubber-stamped images. Man drinking from beer mug. Man peeing into beer mug. Repeat repeatedly.

Never saw it anywhere else. Can't find it on googlepix. But this is similar in spirit:
http://bit.ly/1Prz5o7

Posted by: mindful webworker - what's old is new again at February 06, 2016 11:47 AM (H/5vA)

125 "you know, all I want is to just be boring. boring is peaceful and peaceable"


Boring is pretty good.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 06, 2016 11:47 AM (w06Yj)

126 What you shooting? May try to sight-in a rifle today. Ranch range.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 06, 2016 11:43 AM (w06Yj

Probably just the Glock and Springfield XDS today.

Indoor range. I usually take the rifles/shotguns to the farm.

You?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 06, 2016 11:48 AM (hlMPp)

127 We can attribute that to the stuff we took, but
really, we don't know. We can't know. And if there isn't any credible
evidence out there that it does work? I have no interest in fooling
myself into believing it did.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 06, 2016 11:44 AM (TOk1P)


It is like the "door close" button on the elevator, then?

Posted by: Kindltot at February 06, 2016 11:48 AM (q2o38)

128 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 11:46 AM (NeFrd)

Well, my mistake. You would know but when I look under homeopathic remedies for things herbs do come up? What, then is homeopathy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 06, 2016 11:48 AM (w4NZ8)

129 Yo!

Posted by: Yohimbe at February 06, 2016 11:48 AM (JO9+V)

130 But Isaiah 36 is a quote from Sennacherib's message to the Jews, not a line from a prophet

-
Right. I was going to say there is no injunction to do so but then I realized that "injunction" is one of those words that means what it means but also its opposite and I can't use "sanction" either because it also means what it means but also its opposite.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 06, 2016 11:49 AM (Nwg0u)

131 Nope, not my thing.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
---------
What?
Urine a bad mood or something?



Or, just too easy?

Posted by: Chi at February 06, 2016 11:49 AM (2tQk+)

132 The Human mind can be a very powerful driver of health...


The Placebo Effect tends to verify that.

People are easily suggestible, which is why I have my Bullshit Meter turned on all the time and cranked up to Maximum Sensitivity.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 06, 2016 11:49 AM (LUgeY)

133 And the permit was issued 31 days before the deadline.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 06, 2016 11:49 AM (hlMPp)

134 I hear homeopathic and immediately think it does nothing

Posted by: Skip at February 06, 2016 11:50 AM (HWcaz)

135 "The best book in the Bible about cause and effect plus their consequences is Proverbs."


Not a big Bible person but it rings some bells.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 06, 2016 11:50 AM (w06Yj)

136 Apropros of nothing, I finally watched that Mike Rowe/rats video in the sidebar.

Afterwards, a "suggested" video from youtube was a Craig Ferguson clip of him interviewing some actress (?) named Alice Eve.

Wow. Just, wow. Why have I never heard of her, and where has she been all my life?

Makes you forget that Lily from the ATT commercials even exists.

Posted by: Chi at February 06, 2016 11:42 AM (2tQk+)


I had to look her up... meh, she's alright. The reason I never heard of her is apparently she's never done anything for which I needed to hear of her. Lily at least sells phones for a living.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 06, 2016 11:51 AM (TOk1P)

137 Pissing in someone's corn flakes is bad?

Who knew?

Posted by: fluffy at February 06, 2016 11:51 AM (AfsKp)

138 *snicker*

Posted by: Horny Goat Weed at February 06, 2016 11:51 AM (JO9+V)

139 122 If someone is unable to achieve excellence in a productive way, they might seek excellence in a self-destructive way.


I was involved at early age (early 20's circa 1975) with an artist who wanted to play Mrs. Robinson with me. I deferred. But she was somewhat fascinating, and quite good, work actually in big dc museum. Anyway she told of an artist she knew who was extremely proficient, and put her work to shame.

He arranged with some canning factory to take his feces and can it. Made some original artwork for the label. My artist muse wished that she had a can, because it had become so valuable.

It wasn't self-destructive behavior by the shit-canner.

Reading this back, this seems absurd. But all true.
Posted by: ugg boots at February 06, 2016 11:47 AM (fbovC)


------------------


It wasn't a total waste. The Army made C rations from that.

Posted by: Soona at February 06, 2016 11:51 AM (Fmupd)

140 Note to muzzies wanting to play grabass with Russian women:

Don't.

Then again, seeing footage of "refugees" getting curb- stomped by pissed-off Ruskies on a regular basis would be entertaining...

Carry on.

Posted by: SMFH at February 06, 2016 11:51 AM (rlfds)

141 HotGas links to a Telegraph story of an Iraqi migrant who raped a 10 year old boy at a public pool in Vienna. His excuse is that his wife hasn't had the energy for sex in four months, since a troubled baby delivery, and it "was a sexual emergency".

Posted by: TFG shrugs and goes back to SportsCenter at February 06, 2016 11:51 AM (TxJGV)

142 "The Assyrian came down like a wolf on the fold..."
Byron wrote about Sennacherib. Sennacherib spoke about piss-drinking.
There could be a whole new branch of Byron Studies coming shortly.
He'd be your guy. The one kink not yet attributed to him.

I'm an old English major, and did not know that this poem and THE Byron line "She walks in beauty" are from a book of his called "Hebrew Melodies."

Things you learn, researching piss-drinkers, English bards and Scotch reviewers.

Now will have to close all Byron references with b-dab-a-dad-that's all folks.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 06, 2016 11:52 AM (xq1UY)

143 One sometimes gets the impression that the mere words "Socialism" and "Communism" draw towards them with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, "Nature Cure" quack, pacifist, and feminist in England. One day this summer I was riding through Letchworth when the bus stopped and two dreadful-looking old men got on to it. They were both about sixty, both very short, pink, and chubby, and both hatless. One of them was obscenely bald, the other had long grey hair bobbed in the Lloyd George style. They were dressed in pistachio-coloured shirts and khaki shorts into which their huge bottoms were crammed so tightly that you could study every dimple. Their appearance created a mild stir of horror on top of the bus. The man next to me, a commercial traveller I should say, glanced at me, at them, and back again at me, and murmured "Socialists", as who should say, "Red Indians". He was probably right - the I.L.P. were holding their summer school at Letchworth. But the point is that to him, as an ordinary man, a crank meant a Socialist and a Socialist meant a crank.

Posted by: Zombie George Orwell Heading Over to Wigan Pier at February 06, 2016 11:52 AM (1zS3A)

144 This country, as well as the rest of western civilization, is so fucking boned bored.
Posted by: Soona at February 06, 2016 11:26 AM (Fmupd)

Posted by: And your little dog too! at February 06, 2016 11:52 AM (O4NI/)

145 homeopathy in the old days was just another way to approach the subject of medicine. it used to include a lot more of the classical understanding of the body and it's systems, with an emphasis towards allergies and toxins. had an ancestor who was a country homeoparh back in the mid 1800s up in the Watertown NY area.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 06, 2016 11:52 AM (Cq0oW)

146 "The art of medicine consists in amusing the patient while nature cures the disease."

-Voltaire

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 11:52 AM (NeFrd)

147 Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at February 06, 2016 11:42 AM (QHgTq)

Ah....fvck.

So Muldoon making a better point wasn't enough? Now you have to also?

Yup....virtue signalling is a great comparison.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 06, 2016 11:53 AM (Zu3d9)

148 Actually, if urine is the body cleansing itself of bad or excess 'things' then it would not make sense to drink one's own piss.

However, my body poisons might be just what these guys need, therefore ... my piss might be GOOD for them (or not).

Therefore, I am offering my medicinal piss to the residents of SanFranCisco for free. Plus separate shipping and handling.

Call this number soon. 1-800-eat-shit
or 1-80d-rink-piss

Posted by: Mephitis at February 06, 2016 11:53 AM (GLwVs)

149 A whole lot of what hipsters do is "signaling" sometimes it is virtue signaling and sometimes it is signaling that one is not part of the boring bourgeoisie

-
Much like monkeys hooting in the canopy.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 06, 2016 11:54 AM (Nwg0u)

150 I take Zinc and Vitamin C at the first sign of a cold. Seems to help. But I don't think I can change the weather by buying an electric car or save the planet by using canvas bags at the grocery store. So I think I'm on the normal side of the foolishness scale.

Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at February 06, 2016 11:54 AM (dFi94)

151 "Indoor range. I usually take the rifles/shotguns to the farm.

You?"

Oh, don't shoot at public ranges. Don't know the people normally. Can't trust the gun discipline. Some great, some horrible.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 06, 2016 11:54 AM (w06Yj)

152 We can attribute that to the stuff we took, but

really, we don't know. We can't know. And if there isn't any credible

evidence out there that it does work? I have no interest in fooling

myself into believing it did.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 06, 2016 11:44 AM (TOk1P)

It is like the "door close" button on the elevator, then?


Posted by: Kindltot at February 06, 2016 11:48 AM (q2o3


Heh. Or like whiskey and Irishmen. Sure, we can blame the whiskey for their shenanigans, but really, we have no evidence that an Irishman WON'T also be a belligerent hooligan whilst sober... and we might never will.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 06, 2016 11:54 AM (TOk1P)

153 It wasn't self-destructive behavior by the shit-canner.



Reading this back, this seems absurd. But all true.
Posted by: ugg boots at February 06, 2016 11:47 AM (fbovC)


But I understand that the cans are now swelling and rusting through from the inside and . . . Well, spoiling for lack of a better word.

Should high art have a shelf life?

(I am aware that the point of view is all Kunst-und-Handwerk, or fascist and old-fashioned, but I do love technical proficiency shown in art. A lot of the modern artists don't have it. I adore Dali for example, but only because of his technique. )

Posted by: Kindltot at February 06, 2016 11:55 AM (q2o38)

154 Lordy, I am so old that in college as an AE major discussing space habitats I recall that the ewww factor led astronauts to not want to drink water that came from recycled piss even after a filter had removed all the ammonia and waste products. I guess if we ever revive a space program that won't be problem if they recruit from the hipster set.

Yesterday's coffee today.

IIRC, there's one of those filtration units on the Space Station.

Back when I worked at MSFC, one day there was a five-gallon gas can in the men's room for research on that very thing. One of the guys joked that it was a collective drug test and everyone would get fired if it tested positive for anything.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 06, 2016 11:55 AM (LUgeY)

155 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 11:43 AM (NeFrd)

Heh....

My dad was an infectious disease consultant. Whenever a friend or relative asked for antibiotics for a cold, he would say, "Well, I can give you a prescription, and you will be fine in a week. But if I do nothing, it will take seven days."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 06, 2016 11:55 AM (Zu3d9)

156 Look at a lot of high end French food. Snails, sparrows, mashed up goose livers; its just a festival of bored or challenged chefs trying to come up with something new or different for a demanding rich person and convincing them it was great. The more rich and bored a society gets, the more idiotic and self-destructive it becomes.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 06, 2016 11:55 AM (39g3+)

157 As I don't have any homeopathic remedies on hand I can't tell you specifically, but generally it has to do with plants or herbs-which have been used for centuries to help cure things. For example, ginger helps people with nausea.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 06, 2016 11:42 AM (w4NZ


You are confusing homeopathy with herbalism. And yes, herbalism works for a lot of simple things. For example, my favorite treatment for heartburn is cider vinegar. But homeopathy is different, mostly involving the dilution of substances to the point where none of the "active" ingredient remains, and then using that for treatment. Needless to say, it is bogus.

Posted by: Hillzzini at February 06, 2016 11:56 AM (HJhN4)

158 also when I say toxins i mean natural poisons like ivy and such.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 06, 2016 11:56 AM (Cq0oW)

159 sexual emergency

-
Wasn't that a Marvin Gaye song?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 06, 2016 11:57 AM (Nwg0u)

160 What, then is homeopathy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 06, 2016 11:48 AM (w4NZ


****

In short, what eman said at #120

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 11:57 AM (NeFrd)

161 You're gonna love our coffee!!

Posted by: Kopi Luwak at February 06, 2016 11:57 AM (JO9+V)

162 Europeans used to rinse their mouths out with urine to whiten their teeth ... which says all you need to know about Europeans.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 06, 2016 11:57 AM (zc3Db)

163 Backing up FenelonSpoke on efficaciousness of homeopathy. Used it for 30 years and have seen some dang near miracles. If it's all placebo effect, that's some pretty good placebo effect.

1. Much of what is called homeopathy isn't.

2. Homeopathy is not easy, with thousands of remedies and a variety of dosages.

3. I've never seen testing of homeopathy that was done right. (E.g. if it marshalls the body's own defenses, you won't get the effect in a petri dish.)

4. As FS says, it's not a cure-all. There's a remedy that allegedly helps bone healing, but it won't set the break for you.

5. eman: By what mechanism does it work?
There are theories, one good theory I saw posted here one night years ago, but there is nothing at all shown about how or why it should work.

6. It's crazy stuff. If I hadn't seen so many cures for so many decades, I wouldn't believe it myself.

7. If you want to compare with "slow degradation" to voodoo and alchemy, I'd suggest acupuncture and acupressure, aromatherapy, healing hands, magnetic healing, crystals, reflexology, and any number of other possibilities would be better argument than homeopathy. Even most "herbal" cures are BS, despite herbs being the basis for so much good medicine.

FWIW, YMMV, IANADoctor

Posted by: mindful webworker - what's old is new again at February 06, 2016 11:58 AM (H/5vA)

164 More like 350 years of scientific superiority than 2500 but otherwise yeah

Posted by: Knemon at February 06, 2016 11:58 AM (7k4e8)

165 When I'm tending bar, I find that my juggling ability is what really helps me to get tips.

Posted by: Tom Cruise at February 06, 2016 11:58 AM (VdICR)

166 Ask J.J. Sefton. Levin goes on a tangent about the (European) "de-growth" movement every now and then. This is the role model for the U.S. loons. They don't want ANY kind of energy, which means they accept pre-industrial age life.

They can have it.

They (the Left) must be defeated.

Posted by: RushBabe at February 06, 2016 11:59 AM (/NEnw)

167 I was going to do a Twitter series on stuff that was going on the last time a president was said to be responsible for the economy (2008; Obama still blaming Bush, you see). So I was going through lists of top movies, top TV shows, world events, etc. You know stuff like "the last time a president was responsible for the economy, The Wrestler was in theaters"

But when I got to music, I realized that nobody remembers the songs from 2008. I could list the names, but nobody would even know what the song was any more. Because music is designed to be disposable, forgettable, and have no enduring power.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 06, 2016 11:59 AM (39g3+)

168 I had to look her up... meh, she's alright. The reason I never heard of her is apparently she's never done anything for which I needed to hear of her. Lily at least sells phones for a living.


*ahem*

Lindy Booth.

That is all.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 06, 2016 11:59 AM (LUgeY)

169 There should still be nothing wrong with reaching one's potential (give it your best), but if that puts you within two standard deviations from the mean in everyday things, it just isn't enough to make someone feel special these days. Hence the rampant celebration of the ever more aberrant. They have to be hipper and edgier than the hip and edgy.

IOW
Daddy look at MEEEEEEEE!

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at February 06, 2016 11:59 AM (3Mimg)

170 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 11:57 AM (NeFrd)

Oh, I hadn't read that. Thx. Then som stores have a mislabeling then, because they include things under a homeopathic label that are actually not.

I have never used any homeopathic remedies then.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 06, 2016 12:00 PM (w4NZ8)

171 Posted by: Knemon at February 06, 2016 11:58 AM (7k4e

That was the culmination of the previous 2,000 years.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 06, 2016 12:00 PM (Zu3d9)

172 extremely revealing, if some Dem debate moderator asked either of the relativistic prunes running for the Dem nomination what their position is on drinking urine

A crueler man than I would start penning opinions touting urine's Gandhi-like life extension properties...

I'm just sayin'!

Posted by: t-bird at February 06, 2016 12:00 PM (J3phO)

173 High French cooking is also peasant cooking based in the middle ages when they had protein shortages and famines.
It is also why the Finns eat a traditional winter meal of bread made from tree bark and broth made from boiling ham.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 06, 2016 12:01 PM (q2o38)

174 Because music is designed to be disposable, forgettable, and have no enduring power.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 06, 2016 11:59 AM (39g3+)
==============================================

Well then, how do you explain "A Mighty Fortress Is Our God" by Martin Luther? Or "Stayin' Alive" by the BeeGees?


Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at February 06, 2016 12:01 PM (dFi94)

175 Going to put the Gardening Thread up now b/c I'm headed out in a bit. Feel free to use this one for non-gardening things.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 06, 2016 12:01 PM (t5zYU)

176 Be careful about reading health books.
You may die of a misprint.
-Mark Twain

Posted by: mindful webworker - caveat emptor at February 06, 2016 12:01 PM (H/5vA)

177 A crueler man than I would start penning opinions touting urine's Gandhi-like life extension properties...

I'm just sayin'!

Posted by: t-bird at February 06, 2016 12:00 PM (J3phO)


I thought Gandhi was more obsessed with playing with his shit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 06, 2016 12:02 PM (zc3Db)

178 Posted by: Hillzzini at February 06, 2016 11:56 AM (HJhN4)


This is spot-on. Some herbal remedies work well and often without the side effects of modern medicines. The aforementioned ginger for nausea, for example, and doctors have used the silymarin from milk thistle to prevent liver damage in mushroom poisoning cases. You could boil down willow bark tea to cure a headache effectively, it's just that aspirin is easier to find and administer.

The term 'homeopathy' sounds like it would be herbal remedies but in its modern form it's basically taking something like garlic oil and diluting it down to one part per billion because ~reasons~. I guess you get a nice glass of water out of the deal since the 'active ingredient' is absolutely undetectable.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 06, 2016 12:02 PM (NA5LM)

179 Homeopathy is scientifically proven to be worthless in any medical sense. But then, most medicine is just to make you feel better while you heal on your own. Aspirin doesn't make the headache go away, it makes you feel less of its pain. Almost no medicine actually cures, it just hides symptoms.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 06, 2016 12:02 PM (39g3+)

180 In the days of yore, which weren't so long ago, sipping urine was a standard technique of physicians to detect diabetes. I've always suspected that sometimes, they just sniffed it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 06, 2016 12:02 PM (oFSUK)

181 Feel free to use this one for non-gardening things.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 06, 2016 12:01 PM (t5zYU)


How are we going to be able to do that when people keep posting "Nood!!" every 5 comments in order to clean the thread out and kill it?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 06, 2016 12:03 PM (zc3Db)

182 Degrowth of course includes depopulation, hence the Left's glee over infanticide. H/T to Insty.

"Media bias in two pictures:" http://bit.ly/1PrBnUf

Posted by: RushBabe at February 06, 2016 12:03 PM (/NEnw)

183 Europeans used to rinse their mouths out with urine to whiten their teeth ... which says all you need to know about Europeans.

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Ancient Roman used urine to whiten their togas.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 06, 2016 12:03 PM (Nwg0u)

184 Overheard in NYC bar:

"Pee in a cocktail? Don't think so."

"Urine New York now, buddy. Shut up and drink your piss."

Posted by: naturalfake at February 06, 2016 12:05 PM (KUa85)

185 Reminds me of the old joke of a man going in to see his doctor, holds his arm up and tells the doctor, it hurts when I do this.........

Posted by: Soona at February 06, 2016 12:05 PM (Fmupd)

186 Why drink pee when there's Pabst?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 06, 2016 12:05 PM (oVJmc)

187 I guess you get a nice glass of water out of the deal since the 'active ingredient' is absolutely undetectable.



IXNAY on the ecretsay.

Posted by: CO2 Warmening Proponents at February 06, 2016 12:05 PM (JO9+V)

188 haute cuisine is not peasant cooking. peasants are cuitards, not chefs, engaged in cuisine de maison. a peasant would never think to hollow out a chicken and stuff the skin with sausage then roast that

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 06, 2016 12:05 PM (Cq0oW)

189 BurtTC: We can attribute that to the stuff we took, but really, we don't know. We can't know. And if there isn't any credible evidence out there that it does work? I have no interest in fooling myself into believing it did."

We've often had folks with severe long-term problems come to us thankful for changes after taking a recommended homeopathic.

A couple of times, after taking a homeopathic we've recommended, someone will report back, "the remedy didn't do anything. I just got better."

Heh. Fine. That's the important part.

Posted by: mindful webworker - not recommending, just saying at February 06, 2016 12:05 PM (H/5vA)

190 @156 Look at a lot of high end French food. Snails, sparrows, mashed up goose livers

Clearly you have not spent enough time with low end French food.
The French really ate all that stuff, and still do when they can get it. Whatever flew, swam, or crawled. The chefs just found ways to make it expensive. Not unlike every other peasant (pissant?) cuisine that makes it big.

My mother's mother passed along her recipe for pickled beef heart. Mother was half Prussian, half Quebecois. We argue over which side it came from.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 06, 2016 12:06 PM (xq1UY)

191 Most medicine is just to make you feel better while you heal on your own. Aspirin doesn't make the headache go away, it makes you feel less of its pain. Almost no medicine actually cures, it just hides symptoms.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 06, 2016 12:02 PM (39g3+)

Kook! Homeopathist! Let me see your children's vaccination papers!

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 06, 2016 12:06 PM (ubByS)

192 I thought Gandhi was more obsessed with playing with his shit.

But I get to say ANYthing in such an article. Gandhi + weird shit = unassailable authority.

Posted by: t-bird at February 06, 2016 12:06 PM (J3phO)

193 How are we going to be able to do that when people keep posting "Nood!!" every 5 comments in order to clean the thread out and kill it?

Yeah, that is one aspect of this place I do not care for. All that happens is people go to the new thread and start talking about the same stuff, but all momentum and flow of conversation is destroyed.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 06, 2016 12:06 PM (39g3+)

194 "Then som stores have a mislabeling then, because they include things under a homeopathic label that are actually not."

Certified homeopathic placebo. Genuine ersatz or your money back!

Posted by: torquewrench at February 06, 2016 12:06 PM (noWW6)

195 Stringer Davis, the barrel is pissed at you! Denied him his first meal of the day.

Posted by: t-bird at February 06, 2016 12:07 PM (J3phO)

196
I call my new puppy Liberace.


Cuz he's the pianist.*










*Americans doing the jobs Muldoon won't do.

Posted by: naturalfake stealing from Benny Hill at February 06, 2016 12:07 PM (KUa85)

197 Although, you could say that 8 ounces of homeopathic urine in distilled water at a dilution of 1 ppm is a pretty effective cure for thirst.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 12:07 PM (NeFrd)

198
Because music is designed to be disposable, forgettable, and have no enduring power.



Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 06, 2016 11:59 AM (39g3+)
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Well then, how do you explain "A Mighty Fortress Is Our God" by Martin Luther? Or "Stayin' Alive" by the BeeGees?



Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at February 06, 2016 12:01 PM (dFi94)__________True story. Nobody at my local Catholic church could understand why I was laughing like a loon when our choir did 'A Mighty Fortress' -- the priest at the time (and I really miss the guy, our new one is a SJW silly) was joking.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 06, 2016 12:08 PM (MIKMs)

199 Alice Eve makes a memorable appearance in the nearly recent Star Trek, when she changes clothes for some reason while Chris Pine tries to get his jaw to close and recover his eye-balls, which sort of popped out.

Posted by: MTF at February 06, 2016 12:08 PM (TxJGV)

200 if that puts you within two standard deviations from the mean in everyday things, it just isn't enough to make someone feel special these days. Hence the rampant celebration of the ever more aberrant. They have to be hipper and edgier than the hip and edgy.

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I'm tempted to think that would be the sin of pride and the result of elevating man above God.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 06, 2016 12:08 PM (Nwg0u)

201 "10 years ago I would have laughed, and chalked this up to stupidity and boredom."

10 years ago words had different meanings too. This definition drift is not due any Orwellian 'New Speak' thought control conspiracy. I think this is a concurrent change in culture and the language. Any attempt to stop the drift in an attempt to stop cultural change is cargo cult thinking ("return to a pre-industrial-revolution").

Take liberal and conservative - historically they had a couple of sets of definitions - any change is good vs. no change is good, and support for individua rights vs. slavery vs something (I don't know). And now, liberal is indistinguishable from progressive / socialism, and conservative is supposedly the opposite (but if it really is then we haven't seen it as an effective policy).

Whatever 'conservative' is, if you 'Bing' a candidate's name you will get an Bing produced overview of the candidate's views on a traditional left-right scale with 'conservative' on the right and 'progressive' on the left (WTF?!).
At least the democrat party is honest enough and has one candidate who is an open socialist and another who cannot say there is a difference between liberal and socialist.

On the republican side, we are chock full of GOPe and RINO... Back to pre-inductrial thought, quit refering to the GOPe and RINO, the GOP is what it is and nobody there is in a leadership position because they don't toe the party line.

Enjoy the gaslighting.


Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 06, 2016 12:08 PM (T78UI)

202 Ancient Roman used urine to whiten their togas.

According to the History Channel (yeah, I know), medieval Europeans used urine in soapmaking.

I always wondered how well it worked on urine stains...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 06, 2016 12:09 PM (LUgeY)

203 Homeopathy is scientifically proven to be worthless in any medical sense. But then, most medicine is just to make you feel better while you heal on your own. Aspirin doesn't make the headache go away, it makes you feel less of its pain. Almost no medicine actually cures, it just hides symptoms.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 06, 2016 12:02 PM (39g3+)


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So it's sort of like what presidential elections have become.

Posted by: Soona at February 06, 2016 12:09 PM (Fmupd)

204 All that happens is people go to the new thread and start talking about the same stuff,

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So the gardening thread is about fertilizer?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at February 06, 2016 12:10 PM (Nwg0u)

205 Certified homeopathic placebo. Genuine ersatz or your money back!

Posted by: torquewrench at February 06, 2016 12:06 PM (noWW6)


In their defense, placebos are around 30% effective and the best treatment for many problems that people get medicine prescribed for.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 06, 2016 12:11 PM (zc3Db)

206 I completely disagree with the cuisine discussion I see going on here. Peasants ate whatever they could get their hands on, yes. But all of the "haute cuisine" food crazes of the past ten years were street food, peasant food, that some chef came along and gussied it up. The korean BBQ taco phenomenon is a good example.

Sushi, tapas, bacon, lobster, pho, all food made on street carts that got picked up by the chic. "Fusion cuisine" is western chefs cooking shit their little brothers ran in into in 'Nam.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 06, 2016 12:11 PM (ubByS)

207 I understand that homeopaths don't like it when you try to pay them with a little vial of water that has had money dipped in briefly.

Can't see why they would be put off. It's their central concept.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 06, 2016 12:11 PM (noWW6)

208 a peasant would never think to hollow out a chicken and stuff the skin with sausage then roast that
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 06, 2016 12:05 PM (Cq0oW)


Yep. But they do eat the bits of hogs no-one with half a buck would touch, and they eat snails and chicory and sweetbreads and other starvation foods and what is left over after the important people get the steaks.

I'm not saying it isn't tasty and rich, I'm just saying it didn't start out being trendy.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 06, 2016 12:11 PM (q2o38)

209 But, but, but, it's artisanal urine!

Posted by: Hipster Douche at February 06, 2016 12:11 PM (Z8fuk)

210 Although, you could say that 8 ounces of homeopathic urine in distilled water at a dilution of 1 ppm is a pretty effective cure for thirst.
Posted by: Seamus
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I am less thirsty just thinking about it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 06, 2016 12:11 PM (oFSUK)

211 According to the History Channel (yeah, I know), medieval Europeans used urine in soapmaking.



I always wondered how well it worked on urine stains...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 06, 2016 12:09 PM (LUgeY)



Howzit work [spit] on tobacco stains?

Posted by: Josey Wales at February 06, 2016 12:12 PM (JO9+V)

212 In Tudor England, householders were required by law to jug their urine and leave it out for collection, for making gunpowder. Progress, Henry VIII style.

Before synthetic chemicals, everybody used urine; it's just a question of what they used it for. But drinking it, now that's another story.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 06, 2016 12:13 PM (xq1UY)

213 Well then, how do you explain "A Mighty Fortress Is Our God" by Martin Luther? Or "Stayin' Alive" by the BeeGees?

Well I should have been specific: modern music is designed to be disposable. Its meant to be forgettable and interchangable, not kept and savored. What was last year's big hit? Last December's? Nobody remembers because its all just mildly entertaining vapor.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 06, 2016 12:14 PM (39g3+)

214 FenelonSpoke: I have never used any homeopathic remedies then.

Heh. Well, then, I renounce my saying I back up FS.

And reiterate my statement that much of what is called homeopathy isn't.

Posted by: mindful webworker - lone voice at February 06, 2016 12:14 PM (H/5vA)

215 Yeah, that is one aspect of this place I do not care for. All that happens is people go to the new thread and start talking about the same stuff, but all momentum and flow of conversation is destroyed.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 06, 2016 12:06 PM (39g3+)


There used to be a time when more than one thread could be active (well, semi-active) on this site at the same time .... but now it's like a mad rush to the most recent thread. I don't know, maybe people can't keep more than one tab of ace open or something?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 06, 2016 12:14 PM (zc3Db)

216 206 I completely disagree with the cuisine discussion I see going on here. Peasants ate whatever they could get their hands on, yes. But all of the "haute cuisine" food crazes of the past ten years were street food, peasant food, that some chef came along and gussied it up. The korean BBQ taco phenomenon is a good example.

Sushi, tapas, bacon, lobster, pho, all food made on street carts that got picked up by the chic. "Fusion cuisine" is western chefs cooking shit their little brothers ran in into in 'Nam.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 06, 2016 12:11 PM (ubByS)
***
Nailed it.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 06, 2016 12:14 PM (lutOX)

217 Yeah, so how would a mixologist dress up a glass of piss? Lemon slice? Mint sprigs? Pickled green bean?

Posted by: Fritz at February 06, 2016 12:15 PM (UzPAd)

218 I'm not saying it isn't tasty and rich, I'm just saying it didn't start out being trendy.
Posted by: Kindltot
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So, we should expect trendy boutique cafes to put chitlins on the menu any day now.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 06, 2016 12:15 PM (oFSUK)

219 #124 mindful webworker - what's old is new again at February 06, 2016 11:47 AM (H/5vA)

National Lampoon?
Artist was Bruce Cochran (don't know why I remember that)

Posted by: Jethro Bodene at February 06, 2016 12:15 PM (AryUq)

220 Yeah, so how would a mixologist dress up a glass of piss? Lemon slice? Mint sprigs? Pickled green bean?
Posted by: Fritz
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Crucifix

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 06, 2016 12:16 PM (oFSUK)

221 One thing you can say about medieval Europeans: no tobacco stains.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 06, 2016 12:16 PM (xq1UY)

222 Scene in a NYC Pee Bar:


"Has anyone seen Richard Acid? i'm looking for Richard Acid."

"I'm Rick Acid."

"Uric acid?"*









*Americans doing the jobs Muldoon won't do.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 06, 2016 12:16 PM (KUa85)

223 Yeah, that is one aspect of this place I do not care for. All that happens is people go to the new thread and start talking about the same stuff, but all momentum and flow of conversation is destroyed.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
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I never got it, myself.
"OOH! Shiny new thread!"
Um, we were having a really good discussion here. Don't leave...
Sometimes, that makes me just leave for a few hours.

It's kind of like the "first!" thing. I know that it started as a joke, but it isn't a joke for some these days. Oh well. To each his own.

Posted by: Chi at February 06, 2016 12:17 PM (2tQk+)

224 218 I'm not saying it isn't tasty and rich, I'm just saying it didn't start out being trendy.
Posted by: Kindltot
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So, we should expect trendy boutique cafes to put chitlins on the menu any day now.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 06, 2016 12:15 PM (oFSUK)
***
Artisanal chitluns, with locally-sourced grits and gluten-free red-eye gravy...

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 06, 2016 12:18 PM (lutOX)

225 *Americans doing the jobs Muldoon won't do.


Posted by: naturalfake


****

Okay, fine, you want to drag me into this?


I forgot to give the citation for the source of my comment about homeopathic urine being a good cure for thirst.

That came from "The American Urinal of Homeopathic Medicine" Vol 42:16-24.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 12:18 PM (NeFrd)

226 My favorite soul singer?



Urethra Franklin

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 12:19 PM (NeFrd)

227 My favorite movie?


On Golden Pond

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 12:19 PM (NeFrd)

228 "These same people drinking pee wine will be on their iphone 6 posting
about it to Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. I'm not too worried about
them wanting to go back to pre-industrial times."

There are Third World countries which never had an industrial base to speak of, where people prominently tote around smartphones.

It's perfectly possible for a society to deliberately deindustrialize itself and continue to enjoy and use technologies and manufactured goods imported from industrial nations elsewhere.

Until other side effects of deindustrialization manifest, and suddenly there's no money to pay for those spiffy imported tech toys. Or until an industrialized adversary declares war.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 06, 2016 12:19 PM (noWW6)

229 216 206 I completely disagree with the cuisine discussion I see going on here. Peasants ate whatever they could get their hands on, yes. But all of the "haute cuisine" food crazes of the past ten years were street food, peasant food, that some chef came along and gussied it up. The korean BBQ taco phenomenon is a good example.

Sushi, tapas, bacon, lobster, pho, all food made on street carts that got picked up by the chic. "Fusion cuisine" is western chefs cooking shit their little brothers ran in into in 'Nam.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 06, 2016 12:11 PM (ubByS)
***
Nailed it.....
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 06, 2016 12:14 PM (lutOX)


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I love buying street-cart food when I'm in SE Asia. That's where one finds the best food. Either street carts or tiny little kiosks in the neighborhoods.

Posted by: Soona at February 06, 2016 12:19 PM (Fmupd)

230 My favorite country duet?


Dolly Parton & Kenny Rogers version of "Islands in the Stream"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 12:20 PM (NeFrd)

231 Artisanal chitluns, with locally-sourced stone-ground grits....

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Edited

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 06, 2016 12:20 PM (oFSUK)

232 Crap, didn't read the comments before posting... so this is the weekly food thread?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 06, 2016 12:20 PM (T78UI)

233 I feel this Mitchell & Webb documentary on homeopathy will be enlightening:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0

Posted by: hogmartin at February 06, 2016 12:20 PM (NA5LM)

234 Pee is the highest form of art.

Posted by: Marcel Duchamp at February 06, 2016 12:20 PM (zc3Db)

235 Raymond Burr was into golden showers. And so is Kim Kardashian.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 06, 2016 12:21 PM (iQIUe)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 12:21 PM (NeFrd)

237 217 Yeah, so how would a mixologist dress up a glass of piss? Lemon slice? Mint sprigs? Pickled green bean?
Posted by: Fritz at February 06, 2016 12:15 PM (UzPAd)

Carbonate it and sell it as Budweiser.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 06, 2016 12:21 PM (kpqmD)

238 Artisanal chitluns, with locally-sourced grits and gluten-free red-eye gravy...

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 06, 2016 12:18 PM (lutOX)




It was allergies, dammit!

Posted by: Bob Costas at February 06, 2016 12:22 PM (JO9+V)

239 @232 Oh yes.
I.P. Weekly.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 06, 2016 12:22 PM (xq1UY)

240 I see ace's place is all wee wee'd up.

Posted by: King Admiral Emperor Barky at February 06, 2016 12:23 PM (zc3Db)

241 Bartender, I'll take a shot piss, hold the flaps.

Posted by: Fritz at February 06, 2016 12:23 PM (UzPAd)

242 My favorite country duet?





Dolly Parton Kenny Rogers version of "Islands in the Stream"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 12:20 PM (NeFrd)


Damned kidney stones. Wow.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 06, 2016 12:24 PM (JO9+V)

243 Apparently chocolate and liquor are good for a cold. Sometimes science takes a while to catch up...

Posted by: Lea at February 06, 2016 12:24 PM (vmMMi)

244 228 "These same people drinking pee wine will be on their iphone 6 posting
about it to Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. I'm not too worried about
them wanting to go back to pre-industrial times."

There are Third World countries which never had an industrial base to speak of, where people prominently tote around smartphones.

It's perfectly possible for a society to deliberately deindustrialize itself and continue to enjoy and use technologies and manufactured goods imported from industrial nations elsewhere.

Until other side effects of deindustrialization manifest, and suddenly there's no money to pay for those spiffy imported tech toys. Or until an industrialized adversary declares war.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 06, 2016 12:19 PM (noWW6)
**
Saw people in a remote village
Proudly wearing their - digital watches
Saw a young indonesian girl
Possessed by the spirit of mutant ninja turtles
Saw palatial estates, with crumbling decorations
And human furniture

- David Fuckin' Byrne

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 06, 2016 12:24 PM (lutOX)

245 shot of...damn keyboard

Posted by: Fritz at February 06, 2016 12:25 PM (UzPAd)

246 I love buying street-cart food when I'm in SE Asia.
That's where one finds the best food. Either street carts or tiny
little kiosks in the neighborhoods.

Posted by: Soona at February 06, 2016 12:19 PM (Fmupd)



Nary a cat to be spotted in the vicinity.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 06, 2016 12:26 PM (JO9+V)

247 Here is a more scientific use for your urine:



https://youtu.be/8wW5KR1pDxs



Since it takes a year or two to be ready, you might want to get started now with a garbage bag in the back yard.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at February 06, 2016 12:26 PM (QHgTq)

248 A better hypothesis for homeopathy is your body develops an allergy-like sensitivity to the medicine, but instead of inducing an allergic reaction it induces the medicinal effect.

In fact it would have to induce a cascade response of just the right type.

There is no evidence the human body does such a thing.

Posted by: eman at February 06, 2016 12:26 PM (MQEz6)

249 As I don't have any homeopathic remedies on hand I can't tell you specifically, but generally it has to do with plants or herbs-which have been used for centuries to help cure things. For example, ginger helps people with nausea.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 06, 2016 11:42 AM (w4NZ


Bzzzt. Wrong. You are conflating homeopathy and naturopathy, which are competing brands of quackery. Herbs and plants: naturopathy. Homeopathy is based on the quaint notion that you can cure a disease by administering a dilute dose of a chemical that induces symptoms similar to those caused by the disease. And homeopathic "medicines" are indeed diluted so extremely, that it's a coin-flip that any given dose contains as much as one molecule of the "active ingredient". But homeopaths will tell you it doesn't matter, because the water molecules have been somehow influenced by the presence of the active ingredient.

Posted by: Hipster Douche at February 06, 2016 12:27 PM (Z8fuk)

250 And they called me crazy for bottling my piss. Pure gold, it was! It was money ... free money!

Posted by: Howard Hughes at February 06, 2016 12:27 PM (zc3Db)

251 I think if you live in NYC it pays to look up and see if there are any cranes in the area and to take appropriate safety measures.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 06, 2016 12:28 PM (iQIUe)

252 So, we should expect trendy boutique cafes to put chitlins on the menu any day now.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 06, 2016 12:15 PM (oFSUK)


Deep fried tripas on an artisan corn tortilla, with Thai basil and paprika sauce.


Posted by: Kindltot at February 06, 2016 12:28 PM (q2o38)

253 "Dolly Parton Kenny Rogers version of "Islands in the Stream"


That is a great one.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 06, 2016 12:29 PM (w06Yj)

254 These same people drinking pee wine will be on their iphone 6 posting about it to Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. I'm not too worried about them wanting to go back to pre-industrial times.

Using technology does not imply understanding or ability to create technology. A monkey can take pictures with an IPhone, that doesn't mean he's going to maintain civilization.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 06, 2016 12:29 PM (39g3+)

255 I'm waiting for logical progression in Farm To Table. In the next phase, the promoters will slaughter before your eyes whatever animal is to be cooked up. The meal will be served in the fields where the vegetables are harvested before your eyes.

In the following phase, participants will slaughter their own animals, and harvest their own vegatables.

Soon, partakers will get to have the 'authentic experience' of all of the above, plus doing the cooking.

If you think I am kidding about this, consider, a local winery charges people to come and pick grapes. They come by the flock, for 'the experience'.

More and more I hear Progressives use the term 'Authenticity'. When you hear that word used, the needle on your Bullshit Detector should be pegged.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 06, 2016 12:29 PM (oFSUK)

256
And they called me crazy for bottling my piss. Pure gold, it was! It was money ... free money!

Posted by: Howard Hughes at February 06, 2016 12:27 PM (zc3Db)


Well, you drank so much Goldschlager that mining your piss was a gold mine.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 06, 2016 12:29 PM (JO9+V)

257 If you believe in Science, this urine drinking problem should work its self out over time.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 06, 2016 12:30 PM (K4eq3)

258 Re: red-eye gravy and peasant cuisine...

My great-grandmother was from the old country, and grew up with one foot there, and one foot in the coal-towns of Appalachia....

The lady learned to cook, and by God, she could cook the most amazing dishes from anything or nothing at all.

Example: she used to put a handful of clay into a pot of beans as they cooked - old hill-billy trick to thicken the soup and add micro-minerals......

Another example - red-eye gravy. Talk about fucking genius - fry the meat and eat it, use the old or burnt coffee (often made with chicory or even, she once confided, with roasted corn and acorns) to "de-glaze" (or clean, as she said) the skillet, and you've got sauce to pour over it....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 06, 2016 12:30 PM (lutOX)

259 Appetizer - Steamed local turnip tops - $13.00

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 06, 2016 12:31 PM (oFSUK)

260 "Nary a cat to be spotted in the vicinity."


Soona should be able to taste "cat."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 06, 2016 12:32 PM (w06Yj)

261
A better hypothesis for homeopathy is your body develops an allergy-like
sensitivity to the medicine, but instead of inducing an allergic
reaction it induces the medicinal effect.


In fact it would have to induce a cascade response of just the right type.


There is no evidence the human body does such a thing.
Posted by: eman at February 06, 2016 12:26 PM (MQEz6)
__________

My dim understanding of most immunizations is the same thing.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 06, 2016 12:32 PM (MIKMs)

262 Nary a cat to be spotted in the vicinity.
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 06, 2016 12:26 PM (JO9+V)


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*looks at cats sitting on the floor staring at me, waiting for their food*

Hmmmm.

Posted by: Soona at February 06, 2016 12:33 PM (Fmupd)

263 Bzzzt. Wrong. You are conflating homeopathy and naturopathy, which are competing brands of quackery.

Naturopathy isn't quackery, its the origin of thousands of modern remedies and medicine. There are some BS remedies out there, but much of it is quite useful and valid. For example, herbalists used to prescribe willow bark for pain... which contains the same chemical as used in aspirin for pain relief. Stuff like Valerian to help you sleep is very well established and known. That's a totally different ballgame than giving someone a picogram of a substance and pretending that heals you.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 06, 2016 12:33 PM (39g3+)

264 Just want to express my appreciation that my testimony of decades of positive experience trying homeopathy has not been directly assaulted by those of you who (presumably not having tried it) are so sure it's purely quackery.

Although it probably just has to do with ignoring my comments altogether, as usual.

Posted by: mindful webworker - open-minded skeptic at February 06, 2016 12:34 PM (H/5vA)

265 He calls it work, she says leisure
You say pain, I say pleasure
But if I sell you this
A five-dollar glass of piss,
I'll turn my trash into treasure

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 12:34 PM (NeFrd)

266 Perhaps authentic peasant quisine should include several days of near starvation then making the best of a squirrel and some dandelions.

Posted by: eman at February 06, 2016 12:35 PM (MQEz6)

267 Phrenology is poised for a comeback!

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 06, 2016 12:35 PM (JO9+V)

268
There are plenty of places where the zikz mosquito can bite:

http://goo.gl/Zu9Gz1

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 06, 2016 12:35 PM (iQIUe)

269 Soona should be able to taste "cat."
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 06, 2016 12:32 PM (w06Yj)


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Tastes like anchovies. Wait........that's pussy.

Posted by: Soona at February 06, 2016 12:36 PM (Fmupd)

270 Appetizer - Steamed local turnip tops - $13.00

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 06, 2016 12:31 PM (oFSUK)


Do they filet the turnip tops? If not, I won't eat it. I'm allergic to the outer rings of the turnip.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 06, 2016 12:36 PM (TOk1P)

271 265 He calls it work, she says leisure
You say pain, I say pleasure
But if I sell you this
A five-dollar glass of piss,
I'll turn my trash into treasure
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 12:34 PM (NeFrd)

Burma Shave!

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 06, 2016 12:36 PM (kpqmD)

272 My dim understanding of most immunizations is the same thing.

Immunization triggers the body's natural response to invading bacteria by introducing harmless versions of it, building up protection against it. But its in amounts and substances sufficient to actually activate the body, not super-sub-microscopic traces.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 06, 2016 12:36 PM (39g3+)

273 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 06, 2016 12:33 PM (39g3+)

Yep. Most modern medicines derive from plants and some animals, many of which had been the basis of some old treatments. Nature is the best medical researcher around. But there is something a bit weird about going back to the original plants in preference to the modern formulations and derivatives. ... unless cost is the main driver - but, then, most herbal remedies are outrageously priced so that can't be the motivation.

Posted by: Howard Hughes at February 06, 2016 12:37 PM (zc3Db)

274 "Tastes like anchovies. Wait........that's pussy."



See what I mean.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 06, 2016 12:39 PM (w06Yj)

275 Remember that poor little boy all dressed trannie like at the gay pride parade in brazil and people getting freaked out about it and then the gay community getting freaked that everyone else was freaked out about it? The kid did look like he was turned into a sexual object. Creepy.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 06, 2016 12:39 PM (iQIUe)

276 Just want to express my appreciation that my
testimony of decades of positive experience trying homeopathy has not
been directly assaulted by those of you who (presumably not having tried
it) are so sure it's purely quackery.



Although it probably just has to do with ignoring my comments altogether, as usual.





Posted by: mindful webworker - open-minded skeptic at February 06, 2016 12:34 PM (H/5vA)


Not a question of ignoring, simply choosing not to argue.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 06, 2016 12:39 PM (TOk1P)

277 .04% baby!



Driver of global warmening! It's hom(e)opathic-like, yo!

Posted by: CO2 at February 06, 2016 12:40 PM (JO9+V)

278 The thing that annoys me about cooking is how brainlessly trendy it is. The two big trends right now are the "microgreen" foraging crap where they go around and pick weeds and sticks then pretend its great food... and the "fusion" where they take two things and stick them together.

Some of it can be great, and go for it... but why does every chef, everywhere, have to do the same stupid mindless crap at the same time?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 06, 2016 12:40 PM (39g3+)

279 A solvent cannot "remember" the fact it once had a solute.

If homeopathy worked that way, why should not poisons work the same way? Or overdoses?

A solution of potassium cyanide will kill you. Dilute it a millionfold and it will not, or will it?

Posted by: eman at February 06, 2016 12:40 PM (MQEz6)

280
I'd love to see refugees try to pull their crap at this carnival. They would get shot or stabbed in Brazil.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 06, 2016 12:42 PM (iQIUe)

281 >>>...we have no evidence that an Irishman WON'T also be a belligerent hooligan whilst sober... and we might never will.

I'd encourage you to review the list of CMH winners with Irish surnames.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 06, 2016 12:42 PM (1zS3A)

282 A solution of potassium cyanide will kill you. Dilute it a millionfold and it will not, or will it?

Posted by: eman at February 06, 2016 12:40 PM (MQEz6)


It will ... eventually. Guaranteed dead within 80 years. If not, we'll give you your money back.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 06, 2016 12:42 PM (zc3Db)

283 "A solution of potassium cyanide will kill you. Dilute it a millionfold and it will not, or will it?"


I'll say "no." Volume has a role to play.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 06, 2016 12:43 PM (w06Yj)

284 >>>
Phrenology is poised for a comeback!<<<

Now that you mention it, it does seem rather curious that a majority of pointy headed types are found in faculty lounges.

Posted by: Fritz at February 06, 2016 12:44 PM (UzPAd)

285 Phrenology clinics located next to local GOP offices.

Posted by: eman at February 06, 2016 12:46 PM (MQEz6)

286 Christopher Taylor: Immunization triggers the body's natural response to invading bacteria by introducing harmless versions of it...

Um, IANAD, clearly, but isn't that virii, not bacteria?

Posted by: mindful webworker - open-minded skeptic at February 06, 2016 12:46 PM (H/5vA)

287 I got into a pissing match with some idiot at Jonestown. He said that the people were being injected with something causing abscesses. I tried to explain that they would be dead before their bodies could form an abscess and what he saw was what they were being injected with (cyanide I presume) infiltrating the tissues. He threw a hissy fit bc he was there and I was not and I was banned from the forum. So much for science. It's not like I said I wasnt stupid or immoral to be there. Nor did I leave my wife and baby son to die there. His wife was a true believer but he could have cold cocked her, grabbed the kid, and ran. He made it out alive.

There are people who are trying to rehab Jonestown calling it misguided and really was about SJ.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 06, 2016 12:48 PM (iQIUe)

288 Um, IANAD, clearly, but isn't that virii, not bacteria?

****


Either or.


e.g. Pneumococcal vaccine- bacteria

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 12:48 PM (NeFrd)

289
A neon "cocktails" sign over the home bar might not be bad.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 06, 2016 12:49 PM (iQIUe)

290 "A solution of potassium cyanide will kill you. Dilute it a millionfold and it will not, or will it?"


*****


Appears to have killed the thread.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 06, 2016 12:50 PM (NeFrd)

291 BurtTC: Not a question of ignoring, simply choosing not to argue.

Appreciated, nonetheless. And I can't argue about it. I can only testify to extensive personal experience and observation, making no claims that it's evidential beyond anecdotal.

Something got rid of my lifelong horrible allergy to poison ivy, right after taking homeopathic Rhus Tox. Don't care what it was.

Posted by: mindful webworker - open-minded skeptic at February 06, 2016 12:51 PM (H/5vA)

292 No matter how much science advances there will always be people that prefer to glue a pyramid to their right tit and say it works better or just as well.

Posted by: eman at February 06, 2016 12:52 PM (MQEz6)

293 I saw a picture on Facebook that reminds me of this. It showed a group of very young girls in a ballet class. All the girls were doing the exercise except one. She was clearly goofing off. The comment was along the lines of "be different"! If you want to be a ballerina, you need to be disciplined and do the exercises. Why celebrate the girl that is wasting everyone's time?

Besides, there is no bigger group of conformists than the "be different" crowd.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 06, 2016 12:52 PM (Lqy/e)

294 @289 Oh, sure. But the point of this thread was whether you'd gain or lose social opportunities with a neon "Urine Cocktails" sign over the home bar.

I for one would like to see the look on the neon guy's face when it's ordered.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 06, 2016 12:55 PM (xq1UY)

295 One last comment on homeopathy.

Homeopaths will tell you, if you aren't taking the correct remedy, nothing will happen.

Skeptics will tell you, no matter what, nothing will happen.

(Assuming proper manufacturing.)

So, never worried too much about experimenting with it in non-critical instances.

Posted by: mindful webworker - open-minded skeptic at February 06, 2016 12:57 PM (H/5vA)

296 Exit, stage right.

Posted by: Top Cat at February 06, 2016 01:01 PM (1zS3A)

297 Yet another Faux Hate Crime has taken place; this time five girls from University of Albany SUNY claimed white guys called them racist names and attacked them on a bus. The usual suspects got involved, but when the video and audio evidence from twelve cameras on the bus was examined, zero evidence any such thing remotely happened was found.

Its the first faux hate crime I've run across so far this year. Last year it averaged 1 a month, I expect that to ramp up this year.

http://www.wordaroundthe.net/2012/08/faux-hate.html

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 06, 2016 01:02 PM (39g3+)

298 >>>and you've got sauce to pour over it....

Natural MSG.

Posted by: Zombie Proust, I was a Neuroscientist at February 06, 2016 01:03 PM (1zS3A)

299 2% of the country are claiming they represent the norm. Major metropolitan areas have beaten-wife-syndrome. In 30 years all these debates will be meaningless and will have been reinterpreted in a way that would infuriate me if I am still alive. If LA goes up in a fuel-air-munition type explosion from the massive natural gas leak are they going to claim it was a nuclear attack?

Posted by: scorecard at February 06, 2016 01:03 PM (Z768P)

300 Homeopathy is based on the theory that, if you treat your body with a substance that causes the same symptoms, your body will heal the original problem. They do "proofing" on the remedies, where they are tested on people like regular pharmaceutical drugs are.

I never get this. If I want to take a homeopathic remedy, it won't hurt me. Maybe it won't work, but that can also be true of regular drugs. My doctor prescribed Fosamax. Have you ever read the warnings on it? It is supposed to pull calcium from your soft tissue and put it into your bones. But it can cause fractures of the thigh bone! And you have to take pills to keep it from upsetting your stomach. We have doctors prescribing drugs with known issues that they just ignore. But we cut them plenty of slack.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 06, 2016 01:04 PM (Lqy/e)

301 "The usual suspects got involved, but when the video and audio evidence from twelve cameras on the bus was examined, zero evidence any such thing remotely happened was found."

Knowingly making a false police report is a serious crime.

I'm racking my brains here trying to remember when it last was that one of these SJW hoaxsters actually got prosecuted and did time in stir.

They keep doing it because it's consequence-free.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 06, 2016 01:05 PM (noWW6)

302 >>>Dolly Parton Kenny Rogers version of "Islands in the Stream"<<<<

Isles of Langerhans?

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at February 06, 2016 01:06 PM (tEDMc)

303
>>>...we have no evidence that an Irishman WON'T also be a
belligerent hooligan whilst sober... and we might never will.


-------------------------------
I'd encourage you to review the list of CMH winners with Irish surnames.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 06, 2016 12:42 PM (1zS3A)


Canadian Mountain Holidays?


What's the award for, not getting frostbite?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 06, 2016 01:07 PM (TOk1P)

304 Besides, there is no bigger group of conformists than the "be different" crowd.

Yeah. My favorite illustration of this principle:

https://pbs.tw___.com/media/CO7t2vDWoAEeafC.jpg

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 06, 2016 01:08 PM (39g3+)

305 There is obviously money to be made in offering 'Authentic Experiences' People will rationalize paying for 'experiences' just to gain some bragging rights, "I'm Authentic!". It is part/parcel of virtue signaling. That they bought the experience matters little.

I'm going to start the ball rolling by suggesting: "Garner folk knowledge and understanding by experiencing first-hand the nuances of septic tank pumping. $100.00 per person. This is real hands-on experience."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 06, 2016 01:08 PM (oFSUK)

306 If I want to take a homeopathic remedy, it won't hurt me.

You'll only feel this in your wallet...

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 06, 2016 01:09 PM (39g3+)

307 "One last comment on homeopathy. "


I don't care who you sleep with, just don't bring it to my house, okay.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 06, 2016 01:10 PM (C/h0Q)

308 297
Yet another Faux Hate Crime has taken place; this time five girls from
University of Albany SUNY claimed white guys called them racist names
and attacked them on a bus. The usual suspects got involved, but when
the video and audio evidence from twelve cameras on the bus was examined, zero evidence any such thing remotely happened was found.



Its the first faux hate crime I've run across so far this year.
Last year it averaged 1 a month, I expect that to ramp up this year.



http://www.wordaroundthe.net/2012/08/faux-hate.html

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 06, 2016 01:02 PM (39g3+)

That would be a felony in SC.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 06, 2016 01:11 PM (t2KH5)

309 Knowingly making a false police report is a serious crime.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 06, 2016 01:05 PM (noWW6)


The most serious sort ... which is why it made it into the top ten commandments.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 06, 2016 01:14 PM (zc3Db)

310 But we cut them plenty of slack.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 06, 2016 01:04 PM (Lqy/e)


No question. Modern medicine has turned us into a nation of junkies. We worry about the dealers on the street, but there is a Walgreens or CVS on every corner...

Still, if a drug makes it to market, there's a pretty good chance it's been analyzed to the point of knowing what the chances are it's going to help any given patient with a collection of symptoms, while at the same time noting the possible undesired effects.

That's better than "maybe it'll help/maybe it won't." Perhaps not better for some to take the risks, but you have the information ahead of time. And theoretically you are talking to an expert who is prescribing it.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 06, 2016 01:16 PM (TOk1P)

311 I've posted this before, spied in local free hipster paper, the miracle of salt!:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/j3gr42e

It prompted me to look for a web site, and sure enough:
http://www.ashevillesaltcave.com/

All SFW.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 06, 2016 01:19 PM (oFSUK)

312 I take Calmes Forte (to help me sleep) and I've taken the remedy for leg cramps, which contains quinine. Both work for me.

I have learned more by readingThe Fourfold Path to Healing (written by a doctor that is knowledgable about herbalism) than I have ever learned at Web MD. Did you know doctors are still pushing that low fat, low salt nonsense?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 06, 2016 01:20 PM (Lqy/e)

313 Doctors are really slow to adapt the new, particularly if it requires them to admit "yeah I was wrong" at any point.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 06, 2016 01:31 PM (39g3+)

314 Imagine if you will, Hipster Johnny. Hair buzzed short on the sides, long on top, and slicked straight back. Half-inch holes adorn his ears, an "epic" beard almost concealing his lip piercing. The end of a tattoo sticking out from the top of his Woolrich plaid flannel shirt, and more showing on his forearms, bared from the 2-roll of his sleeves.
Skinny jeans held up by a wide rhinestone studded belt, stretched over scrawny legs. Wolverine 1000 mile chukkas complete the look.

Sitting on the seat of his bike, a 2015 Vespa, arms splayed casually over the handlebars, hands caressing his latest participation trophy, watching as a young hipsterette heads in his direction. He turns his head away indifferently, listening as her Doc Martens clomp ever closer.
"Nice trophy you got there, Johnny." she says.
"Whatevs. It's yours." He flips it to her dismissively.

"Are you a rebel, Johnny?"
"Mmm" he say with half of an affirmative nod.
"What are you rebelling against?"
"Whattya got?" he sneers.

Taken aback, she blurts "Um, don't drink your piss?"

He reaches down and graps his BPA-free naglene one litre bottle, and flips open the lid.
Glug, glug glug glug glug...."Ahhh" he says, and wipes what escaped his mouth through the hole in his lip with his sleeve.

"You're not the boss of me, MA!" He lisps. He fires up the angry Vespa, and putters away. She watches him leave, her heart racing ever faster.



What a stupid time to be alive.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 06, 2016 01:31 PM (kKHcp)

315 Did you know doctors are still pushing that low fat, low salt nonsense?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 06, 2016 01:20 PM (Lqy/e)

I asked my doctor about it. He said the medical community has not released the "study" yet and they can't do anything until that happens.

I don't worry about salt anyway. When I first had my heart attack the heart doctor said that unless it caused high blood pressure to not worry about it. I ate a bunch of salty stuff and took my BP every hour. No change.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 06, 2016 01:38 PM (t2KH5)

316 >>>What's the award for, not getting frostbite?


Congressional Medal of Honor.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 06, 2016 01:40 PM (1zS3A)

317 Progressives have always loved the pre-industrial past, since Rousseau's "noble savage" (which, surprise, surprise, was anything but noble; they're just as fucked up as we are).

So they romanticize the past without understanding what it really meant to do back-breaking labor under someone else's lash, whether slavery, serfdom or wage-slavery.

And like people who believe in reincarnation, they're never going to be the person at the end of the lash. They're going to be the ones wielding it. When they finish pulling the supports out from under society, they'll make sure (or believe) they'll be on top.

Posted by: Uma Thurman's Feet at February 06, 2016 01:40 PM (HS0CH)

318 Just early adopters for the coming phosphorous shortages.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at February 06, 2016 01:41 PM (FtrY1)

319 Did you know doctors are still pushing that low fat, low salt nonsense?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 06, 2016 01:20 PM (Lqy/e)


I believe the reasons for that are mostly legal. A lot of medical activity (over-testing, needless dietary restrictions, etc.) is designed to minimize the danger of lawsuits for negligence or malpractice.

Posted by: HTL at February 06, 2016 01:42 PM (HJhN4)

320 The studies they used to declare fats bad were paid for by the food industry. There's never been a reliable study that shows a problem with fats. It's one of those things I use to determine if the info on a site is knowledgeable. If they are anti-fat, they are relying on old flawed research.

I'm going to a new primary care doctor. (My old one is the best. But I have to pay for out of network all the time). New doctor is a naturopath. I don't normally use them but I wanted a doctor that would understand the nutritional supplements I am taking. I can see them improve my O2 levels. My pulmonologist would just blow it off. (And I'm going to find a new pulmonologist too).

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 06, 2016 01:47 PM (Lqy/e)

321 I think you can tell the focus of a country by looking at the largest buildings in town. They used to be factories. Sometimes, now, they are schools. Mostly, they are hospitals. We've managed to wipe out some of the most deadly diseases but need bigger and better medical facilities because we are so unhealthy.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 06, 2016 01:50 PM (Lqy/e)

322 166 Ask J.J. Sefton. Levin goes on a tangent about the (European) "de-growth" movement every now and then. This is the role model for the U.S. loons. They don't want ANY kind of energy, which means they accept pre-industrial age life.

They can have it.

Posted by: RushBabe at February 06, 2016 11:59 AM (/NEnw)



No, the globalist elite have no intention of living like that. That's for us proles. We're supposed to be satisfied with tiny houses, vegetarianism, and public transportation, while the Al Gores and the Davos types enjoy their mansions, Kobe beef, and private jets.

Perhaps they really believe that Earth is running out of resources, so they have to convince the masses to tighten our belts so they can continue to live in luxury. Or maybe it's just a way of wielding power over us, for its own sake.

Posted by: rickl at February 06, 2016 02:06 PM (sdi6R)

323 It would make a lot more sense to distill the water from it and use what's left to make gunpowder.

Posted by: Socratease at February 06, 2016 02:14 PM (2GbWn)

324 >>>What's the award for, not getting frostbite?





Congressional Medal of Honor.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 06, 2016 01:40 PM (1zS3A)


Aren't very many Irish comedians, apparently.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 06, 2016 02:16 PM (TOk1P)

325 I would just like that people who say "Bzzzt. Wrong" when they''re trying to correct something you said sound ridiculous. Unless we've been in a pissing match (not literal, just figurative) just give me the information. Otherwise it sounds like I offended you simply for getting information correct. Because if I offended you simply because I got information wrong you have a low level of tolerance because I may frequently get something wrong. :^).

Thanks, ever so!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 06, 2016 02:26 PM (w4NZ8)

326 20
I'm reminded of a cartoon, it may have been in Penthouse in the early
80s, where a group of people are being interviewed by a news crew
outside an elevator with an 'out of order' sign taped on the front. "We
were trapped for nearly three hours and had to drink our own urine to
survive."


Probably already answered upthread, but that was Charles Rodrigues in the National Lampoon.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 06, 2016 02:30 PM (B8JRQ)

327 325-meant "Getting information ncorrect"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 06, 2016 02:39 PM (w4NZ8)

328
I believe it was this topic that pushed "Brown Trout" (*cough OG cough*) over the edge a coupla weeks ago.

BTW, Carnivora and colloidal silver ftw...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at February 06, 2016 03:11 PM (xRA8Q)

329 Consistent with:
Facebook
Twitter
Druids, or, present day members of the GOPe

Also, from the Urban Dictionary:

"Hey; Yo. Drink my piss [any candidates name here]"

Posted by: Arkindole at February 06, 2016 04:40 PM (7+Wf0)

330 Mohammed believed drinking camel urine was very beneficial. Since anything he did is considered good and perfect, people in various Muslim countries sell & drink camel urine.

Posted by: johnw at February 06, 2016 05:45 PM (pYW0M)

331 "I like to eat babies!"

I like to drink pee!

We are French! French! French!"

(SNL skit lampooning old vaudeville performers who exploited every racial and ethnic stereotype in their act but didn't know very much about the French.)

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at February 06, 2016 07:01 PM (MxONJ)

332 Leftists like drinking urine? Personally I have no problems with this.

Posted by: Levin at February 06, 2016 10:25 PM (aXXSr)

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