Overnight Open Thread (1-27-2016)

Quote of the Day

Continuously pretending that a group is somehow eventually going to become like the rest of us is perhaps the deepest form of disrespect.

Because what you are essentially saying is the fact that they behave in a different way, some of which we may not like, is because they haven't yet seen the light. It may be that they see the world differently to the rest of us.

-- Trevor Phillips, former chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, on why the UK should just accept that Muslims will never integrate

Revealed: How The Brother of Hermann Goering Saved Jews From Dachau and Supported the Anti-Nazi Resistance

From all this we may learn that there are two races of men in this world, but only these two - the "race" of the decent man and the "race" of the indecent man. Both are found everywhere; they penetrate into all groups of society. No group consists entirely of decent or indecent people. In this sense, no group is of "pure race" - and therefore one occasionally found a decent fellow among the camp guards.

-- Viktor Frankl in Man's Search For Meaning

Albert Goering and his brother Hermann were only two years apart in age, had a nearly identical upbringing, and both fought in WWI. But their lives quickly diverged afterwards; while Hermann was rising in the Nazi ranks, Albert was living a bohemian lifestyle in Vienna and they had little contact during the 1930s. That came to an end with the Anschluss and Albert was soon sucked into the Nazi war effort.

In 1945 he was in custody in Nuremburg being interrogated - and assumed to be just as guilty of war crimes as his brother and soon to follow him to the noose. But Albert claimed that not only was he innocent of any crimes but that he had personally rescued many Jews from being sent to the death camps and helped sabotage the Nazi war machine from within.

Then Albert astonished the Allies by writing out by hand a list of 34 people he claimed to have helped escape the Nazis. The Pilzers were at number 24. Dr Kurt Schuschnigg, the former Chancellor of Austria, was also on the list.

So was the Archduke Joseph Ferdinand of the royal Habsburg dynasty.

Albert claimed that his brother Hermann was so triumphant after Austria was annexed, he 'allowed everyone a wish. My sister and I asked for the release of the old archduke'. Hermann 'was very embarrassed' but the next day 'the arrested Habsburger was free again'.

Albert went on to say that he was saved from the Gestapo and SS - who over time had four warrants out for his immediate arrest - by Hermann himself. 'As far as he could [Hermann] helped me,' Albert claimed, adding that when it came to family, Hitler's deputy 'had a warm heart'.

Albert's claims were immediately dismissed by his Allied interrogators as far-fetched. An interrogation report said he was guilty of 'as clever a piece of rationalisation and whitewash' as the interrogators had ever seen.

It concluded: 'Albert Goering's lack of subtlety is matched only by the bulk of his obese brother.'

But Albert got a very lucky break. By sheer chance one of the American interpreters, Viktor Parker, happened to be the nephew of one of the women on the list - and when he reached out to his aunt, she verified Albert's story.

He was a Jewish refugee to America and his family had changed their real name, Paschkis. His aunt, Sophie, had converted to Catholicism and married the Austro-Hungarian composer Franz Lehar, best known for writing The Merry Widow. Lehar had been detained by the Nazis because of his marriage to someone born Jewish.

And by an amazing coincidence, Sophie was number 15 on Albert's list! Parker spoke to his aunt about how Albert had helped them to leave Austria. Thanks to a most unlikely twist of fate, Albert's story was validated by one of the men sent to help convict him at Nuremberg.

And others later verified other parts of Albert's claims:

Yet Albert's troubles were not over. He had worked as the export manager at Czech car firm Skoda, which had been converted to Nazi war production, and the post-war authorities in Prague wanted him on charges of Nazi collaboration.

Now members of the Czech resistance who worked in the Skoda factory came forward and testified that Albert had helped them undermine the Nazi occupiers, passing on information to the resistance and encouraging acts of sabotage.

Albert, it emerged, had not only lobbied his brother to release individual prisoners from Dachau, but also forged Hermann's signature on documents that allowed anti-Nazi activists and Jews to escape Hitler's henchmen.

He took company trucks and drove away inmates as 'forced labourers' before parking in secluded areas and allowing them to escape.

All charges were dropped against Albert but his post-war life was not a happy one and he died in obscurity in 1966. However half a century after his death he has been recently submitted for recognition as Righteous Among The Nations.

Note that there is a twist at the very end of the story that might explain everything about Albert. Or nothing. Perhaps it did tilt him in a certain direction but I think that the brothers were just fundamentally different men who at critical points made their own divergent choices about how they would live their lives.

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Welcome to 2016

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Lessons Learned From Dying in the Shoothouse

Gunsite Academy regularly offers their shooting courses for free to members of the military. Here an Air Force combat controller in the 223 carbine course goes through a shoothouse run.

The scenario is that he was part of personal security convoy protecting a female VIP that has been attacked by jihadis who have dragged her into a nearby building. Everyone except for him is too injured to continue and he is in hot pursuit of the attackers. The serviceman does well but is still 'killed' twice in the house.

You can see a more advanced student running through the same scenario here.

WeaponsMan on Pistols & Optimizing vs. Satisficing

Instapundit on Sixt

So when we were in LA earlier this month, I rented a car from Sixt. The deal was a BMW 5-series "or equivalent" for 42 bucks a day. When the "equivalent" turned out to be a Cadillac CTS, I was a bit miffed, but it was actually a very pleasant car to drive - quick, taut, with comfy/sporty seats and a good nav system. It actually had a German feel to it, not the mushiness I associate with Cadillacs. On the other hand, when we drove the Insta-Daughter to the airport, it started bucking, the check engine light started flashing, and it informed me that the "Stabilitrack" traction-control was shot. After limping to the terminal to drop her off for her flight, I returned it to the Sixt place at the airport and they very quickly gave me a new one. You can't draw a conclusion about reliability from a single incident, but this didn't inspire confidence.

I've used Sixt several times in Germany and always had good experiences. In fact time one time we arrived at a rental location and found out that it closed early on Sundays leaving us out of luck. But one of the car cleaners was still around and went and convinced one of the desk staff eating at a nearby restaurant to come back to the office afterwards and rent us a car.

They Don't Make Them Like They Used To

And that's a good thing.

DeLoreans To Go Back Into Production in 2017

Built from NOS parts and new engines.

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Happy 35th Anniversary to the HP 12C Financial Calculator

What makes this calculator totally unique among all consumer electronic products is that it was first introduced by HP 35 years ago at a retail price of $150 (almost $400 in today's dollars) in 1981, and yet even today is considered to be a relevant, up-to-date, "state of the art" product for financial professionals, CPAs, financial analysts, mortgage brokers, real estate agents, investors and finance professors. I have used HP-12C financial calculators on almost a daily basis since the 1980s and currently own five of them: two original 12C models, one 25th Anniversary models (released in 2006), and two "Platinum" 12C model.

And you can still buy an HP-12C today for only $70. Back in the 80s I managed to convince my parents to buy me an HP-15c (the scientific version of the 12c) and I used it all the way through college, graduate school and later employment. I lost track of it sometime around 2000 and I'm convinced that it was stolen by some covetous HP fan. Even though all of its functions are now available in an iphone/ipad app, I still miss its sheer amount of functionality packed into a light but robust case along with the tactile feel of its keys.

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The Oldest Hotel in the World

Nestled among a number of picturesque hot springs in the mountains of Kyoto, the traditionally-styled Nishiyama Onsen Keiunkan in the Yamanashi Prefecture, Japan, is recognized as the world's oldest hotel, inn, and possibly even business in general, catering to everyone from ancient samurai to modern tourists for over a thousand years.

...From its inception, the Keiunkan onsen has been passed down within the original family through the centuries. 52 different generations of descendants have cared for and operated the inn, growing the space and modernizing it slowly with each passing epoch.
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25 Unbelievable Stories of Survival in Hopeless Situations

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Yahoo group. That is all.

Come on be a smartie and join the yahoo group party! For the children. Why do you hate children?

And my lo-fi Twitter spew.

Tonight's post brought to you by Easy Company,  Eagle's Nest, 1945:

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Notice: Posted by permission of AceCorp LLC. This ain't no disco, this ain't no fooling around - there are rules.

Posted by: Maetenloch at 11:24 PM




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1 *whistles*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 27, 2016 11:25 PM (21hN3)

2 2nd!

Posted by: RGallegos at January 27, 2016 11:25 PM (49Jfq)

3 yay...

Posted by: two of spades (promotion pending) at January 27, 2016 11:25 PM (t4GNF)

4 Remember the Alamo!

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at January 27, 2016 11:26 PM (dPpmC)

5 -- Trevor Phillips, former chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, on why the UK should accept that Muslims will never integrate

No no no. Trevor Phillips is the psycho character from GTA V.

Posted by: wooga at January 27, 2016 11:27 PM (llPmN)

6 Woot woot ONT

Good to see you Maet

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2016 11:27 PM (voOPb)

7 Melissa Click has been suspended from her J O B. Probably with pay, since they didn't mention it.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 27, 2016 11:28 PM (gyKtp)

8 Amish Dude still has a sore ass from our last meeting...!

Posted by: The Donald at January 27, 2016 11:29 PM (t4GNF)

9 Why Social Justice Warriors Deserve Their Derision

MTV has been pushing "Social Justice Warrior" idiocy, especially with their "Decoded" and "Look Different" multi-media attempts to be relevant. An attempt by them to make fun of the "warrior" part of the epithet "social justice warrior" does nothing else but to make clear that they are indeed belittleable idjits.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=10988

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 27, 2016 11:29 PM (vBeA5)

10 Hi!

and


Bye?


Hasta.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2016 11:29 PM (bap+2)

11 People say, "It can't happen here."

I beg to differ.

Democrats, Socialists, Liberals and Progressives can do whatever they want, with no fear.

They can say and do what they want, with no consequences.
They can publish lurid assassination fantasies of killing their political foes, for example. Are they investigated by law enforcement? No.
They can disregard the law of the land when it becomes inconvenient. You can do anything if you're a Democrat--Anthony Weiner almost became mayor of NYC. If he'd kept it in his pants, he'd be on stage today with Bernie and Hillary.
They can direct the course of education and entertainment in the land. The culture is theirs to control. Want to make a series about gay men screwing children? No problem.
They have no fear that the society in which they live will reject their values or beliefs. Because....

Conservatives, Christians and Republicans, on the other hand--

They must be very, very careful what they say in public...or even in private. An unwisely stated phrase can lead to trouble, both from Libeals, and from fellow Conservatives anxious to avoid trouble.
They must obey every law to the letter. The tiniest infraction can and will lead to you losing everything.
They must never criticize the society in which they live, or object to sending their money to further Liberal causes. Heaven forbid they criticize cultural things from outside America. That will also lead to losing everything.
They must never draw attention to themselves, unless the attention is how much they are abandoning their principles.
If they were to speak out, and be heard, they could lose their jobs or be sent to prison.

There is a term for this.

It is called Dhimmitude.

We wonder how people in the Middle East could accept this state of affairs. And here we are. We accept it, we take it unto ourselves, and we are grateful that we accept it and Liberals deign to allow us to continue to live. For now.

We are living under Dhimmitude.

This statement intentionally left blank.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 27, 2016 11:29 PM (B8JRQ)

12 The scenario is that he was part of personal security convoy protecting a female VIP that has been attacked by jihadis who dragged her into a nearby building. Every one except for him is too injured to continue and he is in hot pursuit of the attackers.

I can hear the FemTwitters from here.

DeLoreans To Go Back To Production in 2017

*sproing*

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 27, 2016 11:30 PM (W0RfD)

13 I had the worst French fries I've ever had in my life at this new diner.

How the hell do you screw up French fries?

Posted by: Kreplach at January 27, 2016 11:30 PM (WVvzl)

14 Twenty-first?

Posted by: filbert at January 27, 2016 11:31 PM (s5o+q)

15 I was scrolling down the front page and ran across that find-the-cat pic from the other night. Wasn't too hard.

Evening, Overnighters.

Posted by: mindful webworker - vast right-wing conspirator at January 27, 2016 11:31 PM (ACs58)

16 ONT! And no naked Yoko and John pictures either. Thought that would be the punishment for all the nastiness today.

Posted by: IC at January 27, 2016 11:31 PM (+3RH+)

17 Wow, the Horde is slower than I thought.

Tastes like chicken!

Posted by: filbert at January 27, 2016 11:31 PM (s5o+q)

18 It is called Dhimmitude.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm


Just like those jihadis that dislike sauce on steak.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 27, 2016 11:32 PM (W0RfD)

19 I still have my 12c from when I worked on Wall St 30 years ago. It was considered an essential until Bloomberg (yes, that Bloomberg) came along.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 27, 2016 11:33 PM (EZebt)

20 Howdy ONT!

Posted by: Sixkiller at January 27, 2016 11:33 PM (szEUw)

21 Fuck rules, but then again double fuck disco

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2016 11:33 PM (voOPb)

22 Just like those jihadis that dislike sauce on steak.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 27, 2016 11:32 PM (W0RfD)


I see it now. It's the Klingon in your hash. You can't help it.

Posted by: filbert at January 27, 2016 11:34 PM (s5o+q)

23 "Bye? "

Meant "Bye!"

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 27, 2016 11:34 PM (bap+2)

24 Howdy, y'all!!!



On a hot date tonight with a sweet young thing, born in the US in 1974. She's not much of a conversationalist and her looks are kind o' plain -- but sometimes it's enough that she makes you feel less ancient than you know you are.



Her name is Advil.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2016 11:35 PM (EzgxV)

25 Wow


Posted by: Ralph at January 27, 2016 11:35 PM (fTFPL)

26 Brothers is an interesting read. Thanks Maet

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2016 11:35 PM (voOPb)

27 21
Fuck rules, but then again double fuck disco

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2016 11:33 PM (voOPb)

This ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around...

Posted by: David Byrne at January 27, 2016 11:36 PM (8iiMU)

28 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 27, 2016 11:36 PM (YJmuy)

29 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at January 27, 2016 11:36 PM (rgxCi)

30 Goodnight Ricardo!!

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 27, 2016 11:36 PM (egOGm)

31 On a hot date tonight with a sweet young thing, born in the US in 1974. She's not much of a conversationalist and her looks are kind o' plain -- but sometimes it's enough that she makes you feel less ancient than you know you are.



Her name is Advil.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2016 11:35 PM (EzgxV)


I imagine she eases your pain.

Can't ask for much more than that, really.

Posted by: filbert at January 27, 2016 11:36 PM (s5o+q)

32 Clear!

Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2016 11:36 PM (b99VK)

33 Good evening - got an injection in my knee today, but I have a feeling knee replacement surgery is in my future....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at January 27, 2016 11:36 PM (Saqzi)

34 Back in the 80s I managed to convince my parents to buy me an HP-15c (the scientific/programming version of the 12c) and I used it all the way through college, graduate school and later employment. I lost track of it sometime around 2000 and I'm convinced that it was stolen by some covetous HP fan. Even though all of its functions are now available in an iphone/ipad, I still miss its sheer amount of functionality and the tactile feel of its keys.


Well of course someone that posts here likes a decades old piece of technology that hasn't changed at all.

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2016 11:36 PM (zt+N6)

35 Does the HP-12C spell "BOOBIES" upside down? Because that's the most essential feature of any calculator.

Posted by: Josephistan at January 27, 2016 11:37 PM (7qAYi)

36 @11

We have murder inc. dead to rights with smoking gun footage of them trafficking in baby parts and the GOP just fully funded them and the whistleblowers are without a doubt going to do a 25 year stretch in prison.

So yeah, we're untermenschen.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 27, 2016 11:37 PM (WVvzl)

37 7 Melissa Click has been suspended from her J O B. Probably with pay, since they didn't mention it.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 27, 2016 11:28 PM (gyKtp)

She could be a union member. Which severely limits what they can do to her.
I get into this discussion sometimes with my sister in law who is a retired union teacher. I ask her how the union can claim that they care about students when they prevent incompetent teachers from being fired. She says they can get rid of incompetents if they want to, have to document it. I ask her how many teachers in our county are fired in any given year.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 27, 2016 11:37 PM (+lVUW)

38 The Andes rugby team crash was an incredible situation. It really was a team effort though. Parrado gets a lot of deserved credit for the final push over the mountains, but, others stepped up in various ways to lead when it counted.

There are a couple of mostly unsung players in the effort, without whom, survival would not have happened.

Posted by: otho at January 27, 2016 11:37 PM (EWg9n)

39 40 !!

Posted by: Yo! at January 27, 2016 11:37 PM (rgxCi)

40 And you can still buy an HP-12C today for only $70. Back in the 80s I managed to convince my parents to buy me an HP-15c (the scientific/programming version of the 12c) and I used it all the way through college, graduate school and later employment. I lost track of it sometime around 2000 and I'm convinced that it was stolen by some covetous HP fan. Even though all of its functions are now available in an iphone/ipad, I still miss its sheer amount of functionality and the tactile feel of its keys.

The HP-1Xc series were the best calculators. Still have and use my HP-15c.

Best of al, they use Reverse Polish Notation, and the "=" sign is absent.

ENTER > =

Posted by: The Reverse Polish Hat at January 27, 2016 11:37 PM (vBeA5)

41 >>How the hell do you screw up French fries?


The same way you screw up anything. Not caring.

Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2016 11:38 PM (b99VK)

42 I'm 44!

Posted by: Icky Woods at January 27, 2016 11:38 PM (b99VK)

43 I see it now. It's the Klingon in your hash. You can't help it.
Posted by: filbert


Dragging stuff into new threads is bad form. Get help.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 27, 2016 11:38 PM (W0RfD)

44 CailGirl - I replied to your PDRK q as the likely willow of the last thread.

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at January 27, 2016 11:38 PM (sOhww)

45 .Drats...... Missed again

Posted by: Yo! at January 27, 2016 11:38 PM (rgxCi)

46 Advil?

I prefer Vicky O. Din

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2016 11:39 PM (voOPb)

47 Every Delorean should be required to have a Flux Capacitor in it. No exceptions.

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2016 11:39 PM (zt+N6)

48 On a hot date tonight with a sweet young thing, born in the US in 1974. She's not much of a conversationalist and her looks are kind o' plain -- but sometimes it's enough that she makes you feel less ancient than you know you are.



Her name is Advil.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2016 11:35 PM

I met a nice Asian girl named Nupril. She was little, yellow, different.

Posted by: Josephistan at January 27, 2016 11:39 PM (7qAYi)

49 Good evening - got an injection in my knee today, but I have a feeling knee replacement surgery is in my future....
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at January 27, 2016 11:36 PM (Saqzi)


I had total knee replacement done Dec. 1 2015 . . . doing pretty well so far. Can't run sprints or anything like that, but normal daily activities are . . . normal.

It does take a year or so, maybe a bit more, to really recover fully, but all in all it is worth it.

Posted by: filbert at January 27, 2016 11:39 PM (s5o+q)

50

Shame Balloon Boy didn't drift off over the ocean, never to be seen again, save in occasional sightings at Judge Crater Memorial Park...

Posted by: Brown Trout Liberation Movement at January 27, 2016 11:40 PM (LVG/7)

51 I, for one, look forward to Bernie's first term, so we'll have free tomatoes in the dead of Minnesota winter, and I won't have to glare at my receipt as I walk outta the grocery store.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 27, 2016 11:40 PM (21hN3)

52 CaliGirl, apologize for the typo.

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at January 27, 2016 11:40 PM (sOhww)

53 "can't happen here."

Look, we told you it could years ago.

Posted by: Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow, circa 1980 something at January 27, 2016 11:41 PM (gisJf)

54 Mmm. Habsburgers.

Doh!

Posted by: homer simpson at January 27, 2016 11:41 PM (WOyz5)

55 34 Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2016 11:36 PM (zt+N6)

It was an HP-41CV for me.

Posted by: Ian Galt at January 27, 2016 11:41 PM (8iiMU)

56 hi all
that was an awesome story about Albert Goering
and I had not heard of Sixt before, huh

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2016 11:41 PM (uZNvH)

57 Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at January 27, 2016 11:36 PM (Saqzi)
My mother had a knee replacement last year. She is feeling so much better. She is in her 70's. She only stayed one night in the hospital.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 27, 2016 11:42 PM (egOGm)

58 Even though all of its functions are now available in an iphone/ipad, I still miss its sheer amount of functionality and the tactile feel of its keys.

The calculator on an iPhone doesn't use the reverse Polish notation of the HP 12-C, and that confuses me.

When I started my first post-MBA job in '89 (lawn, etc.) the other new graduate who started with me made fun of my 12-C, because he had something fancy that drew squiggles for sine waves.

I said "it's the M1 rifle of Wall Street".


Also, hiiiiiii Horde!

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at January 27, 2016 11:42 PM (1xUj/)

59 1st top 100.

Posted by: Hedley Lamarr at January 27, 2016 11:42 PM (hSkCr)

60 33 Good evening - got an injection in my knee today, but I have a feeling knee replacement surgery is in my future....
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at January 27, 2016 11:36 PM (Saqzi)

Did you have the lube or the cortisone? Been down that path many a time

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2016 11:43 PM (voOPb)

61 I wish they'd bring the 15C back. I have one, but it gets little use, because I don't want it 'lost', either.

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at January 27, 2016 11:43 PM (sOhww)

62 Greetings from the chilly island of Galveston, y'all !

Time for me to take on some Bourbon based BTUs.

Global warming, hell. I want some internal warming, and about three shots of 90 proof oughta do it.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 27, 2016 11:43 PM (McRlu)

63 Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at January 27, 2016 11:40 PM (sOhww)
I'm sorry I had never read that before. I have heard it but never saw it.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 27, 2016 11:43 PM (egOGm)

64 Mt first calculator was a LED no name model with an 8 digit display, no decimal point and just the 4 basic math functions. It cost $50 and ate batteries like mad.

I was still the coolest nerd on the block.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 27, 2016 11:44 PM (gyKtp)

65 @51 Posted by: Walter Freeman

Lettuce almost the coast of ground beef

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2016 11:45 PM (voOPb)

66 yada yada Goering nazi, etc, but during WWI he was one of the best combat pilots in. the. world.

wounded, got addicted to morphine, became fat and nazi-ish; designed his own uniforms


there aren't just two kinds of men; it ain't that simple

Posted by: hugo boss ain't my boss at January 27, 2016 11:46 PM (8CdUx)

67 These Ace of Spades HQ's tip calculators suck!!! I want my Platinum Membership refunded!!!

Posted by: jack klompus at January 27, 2016 11:46 PM (WOyz5)

68 I remember writing a simple command line RPN calculator as an exercise (in C, IIRC, trying to make the code as terse as possible). I've still got that code around here somewhere.

Anyway, the program was a command line call it "rpncalc" you'd use like so,

rpncalc 12 34 45 * +

You do it as a stack machine. You push values on a stack, then pop 'em off when you encounter an operator. It's easy as pie to do.

Now, I also wrote, as an exercise, a calculator that would do normal algebraic expressions with order of precedence, ie 12 + 34*45 = ?

Much harder to do, with more logic required. Add nested parentheses and it gets tedious. Doable, but drawn out compared to RPN and stack machine operations.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 27, 2016 11:47 PM (dvuhZ)

69 Her name is Advil.


Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2016 11:35 PM (EzgxV)

Forget her, I'm the one, you *really* want

Posted by: Heroin, Advil's Racy Older Sister at January 27, 2016 11:47 PM (uZNvH)

70 So, what? 2 more weeks of cheerleader pics?

Posted by: Yo! at January 27, 2016 11:47 PM (rgxCi)

71 Well, duty (of a sort) calls.

I'm outa here.

Posted by: filbert at January 27, 2016 11:47 PM (s5o+q)

72 God dammit enough math. We were promised no math like Bernie

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2016 11:47 PM (voOPb)

73 I saved about $200 in my choice of pistol. I got features not included in other cheaper variations and only included with more expensive models.

I figure I save about $400 all told.

And that's about 1,000 rounds of pistol ammo to practice with.

Plus (and this is the biggy) I liked the way it felt, how it fit my hand and how naturally I could point with it.

Canik TP9SA patterned after the Walther PPx line in 9mm

Comes with 2 magazines each hold 17 rounds.
A case that holds a pair of cleaning brushes, a loader, two back straps, a tool to change them, a paddle Sherpa style holster and a belt sherpa style holster. price is now between $329-$359

Built in Turkey and is issued to the Turkish Police forces.

Very nice Trigger, smooth and distinct break, easy take down with a rail, cartridge detector on top and visible from the side with a cocked indicator in back and a large trigger guard for using with gloves. Controversial is a decocker on top of the slide. I personally like it.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 27, 2016 11:48 PM (Xo1Rt)

74 Lettuce almost the coast of ground beef
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2016 11:45 PM (voOPb)

I bought celery the other night that cost more then the dozen wings to go with it.

Posted by: two of spades (promotion pending) at January 27, 2016 11:49 PM (t4GNF)

75 Re: the two-Chevy staged wreck. It was carefully planned to match the strongest aspect of the newer car to the weakest aspect of the older one, so the result was as expected. Cherry-picking, if you will. And the X-frames of the late-'50's GM cars were some of the worst in the industry. A Ford, Chrysler, or Studebaker would have fared better.


Re: DeLoreans. It would be nice to see a new batch, especially with a better engine than that dog of a V6 the originals were saddled with. But, how will they be able to sell them as "new" cars without airbags, 5 mph bumpers, and all the other new safety shite? And retrofitting all the safety shite, and making it pass the rigorous testing would be hugely expensive. Perhaps their best option would be to offer them as kit cars.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 27, 2016 11:49 PM (Z8fuk)

76 I have an HP-35 scientific calculator that I have used for years.

I have worn out two other earlier models.

Worn out. The numbers were rubbed off the keys, and the batteries eventually failed (replaced), and then the display died. It takes about 10 years of continuous use (every day) to wear one out.

There's a guy I work with that has the identical calculator, and we laugh about how our boss can't handle RPN.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at January 27, 2016 11:50 PM (+1T7c)

77 man I wonder how much the new DeLoreans are gonna sell for

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2016 11:50 PM (uZNvH)

78
70 So, what? 2 more weeks of cheerleader pics?

Posted by: Yo! at January 27, 2016 11:47 PM (rgxCi)

We can always post pics on the food threads.


Evening horde.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 27, 2016 11:50 PM (hlMPp)

79 yeah my HP calculator died too, sadly
then I just sold out and got a TI

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2016 11:50 PM (uZNvH)

80 I still have my 12c from when I worked on Wall St 30 years ago. It was considered an essential until Bloomberg (yes, that Bloomberg) came along.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 27, 2016 11:33 PM (EZebt)


Under the proposed new "buddy-mortgage" rules, the preferred financial calculator will be a Magic Eight-ball.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 27, 2016 11:51 PM (Z8fuk)

81 13
I had the worst French fries I've ever had in my life at this new diner.



How the hell do you screw up French fries?

Posted by: Kreplach at January 27, 2016 11:30 PM (WVvzl)


Two easy ways: underheat the oil, or not change it for too long. First one makes limp, oily, starchy-tasting fries; second one make rancid, burnt, fishy, or other off-tasting fries.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2016 11:52 PM (EzgxV)

82 My TI-93.

It's bigger than yours.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 27, 2016 11:52 PM (VdICR)

83 I do hope they've done something with the epoxy coated frames on those DMCs.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 27, 2016 11:52 PM (l3vZN)

84 Under the proposed new "buddy-mortgage" rules, the preferred financial calculator will be a Magic Eight-ball.

naww, are you kidding?

It will be the "lotto number generator" machine

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2016 11:52 PM (uZNvH)

85 '59 Studebakers roll like a ball.
I know I was a passenger in one
Of course there was valu-rite involved

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2016 11:52 PM (voOPb)

86 74 Lettuce almost the coast of ground beef
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2016 11:45 PM (voOPb)

I bought celery the other night that cost more then the dozen wings to go with it.

Posted by: two of spades (promotion pending) at January 27, 2016 11:49 PM (t4GNF)

See! We NEED folks that will do the work Americans won't!

Jumbo uncooked shrimp is cheap as hell now too.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 27, 2016 11:53 PM (hlMPp)

87 Why was Counselor Deanna Troi smiling?
She just got W0RfD!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2016 11:53 PM (WOyz5)

88 Heh. Casio fx-82, 30 years old and still working.

No RPN needed.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 27, 2016 11:53 PM (YJmuy)

89 " But Albert claimed that not only was he innocent of any crimes but that he personally had rescued many Jews from being sent to the death camps and helped sabotage the Nazi war machine from within."
-----------------

Big deal. The man was a pussy.

Posted by: George Soros at January 27, 2016 11:53 PM (oFSUK)

90 And those doors on the DeLorean.

They look cool but are a pain in the ass and not very practical for day to day.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 27, 2016 11:54 PM (Xo1Rt)

91 That last picture shows real men, man spreading like real men do. I am totally not offended in the least. What offends me are the elitist working in our universities and colleges who think that they don't have to obey the new campus carry laws in Texas. They don't see the hypocrisy in ban guns in "their" classrooms which is illegal to do at public institutions. They expect their students to follow their "rules" while they are breaking the law by making that rule. That no-bell prize sure makes them above the law, uh-huh.

Posted by: lindafell de spair at January 27, 2016 11:54 PM (xVgrA)

92 My parents bought me a TI SR-52 programmable calculator when I started high school in 1975. I was in what would today be called a science magnet school and had 3 hours of science classes a day.

That calculator lasted me more than 10 years. I have no idea what happened to it.

http://www.rskey.org/sr52

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at January 27, 2016 11:54 PM (dPpmC)

93 First calculator I ever used, was in a math-lab when I was in the 7th grade.

There were ten "calculators" on the desks, hard-wired to a large suitcase sized CPU, which was itself hard wired into a dedicated AC circuit.

The display was eight vacuum tubes, which would illuminate with a typical tube's red-orange glow, but with a digit formed from the 8-byte grid built into the tube.

They said it was way expensive, something like five grand in 1972 dollars.

As I recall, it only did the basic four functions, plus square root.

And only four students at a time could actually execute a calculation, or it would crash the system.

Previous to that, I thought an abacus was a fairly exotic item.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at January 27, 2016 11:55 PM (McRlu)

94 yeah my HP calculator died too, sadly
then I just sold out and got a TI


Posted by: chemjeff


You will live to regret that.

Seriously, HP Scientific calculators are not easy to find. You have to find scientific outlet that sells them. I never see them in stores.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at January 27, 2016 11:55 PM (+1T7c)

95 If you have to as chemjeff you can't afford it

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2016 11:55 PM (voOPb)

96 Posted by: Kreplach at January 27, 2016 11:30 PM (WVvzl)

What was the screw up?

Taste? Consistency?

We have a Silver Diner here that used to be awesome but then they changed their menu to free range hippy bullshit. It used to be packed, not so much anymore. But surprisingly they are still open.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 27, 2016 11:55 PM (hlMPp)

97 You poppers better be careful with who you date. You might end up with Ass Burn.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2016 11:56 PM (WOyz5)

98 On a hot date tonight with a sweet young thing, born in the US in 1974. She's not much of a conversationalist and her looks are kind o' plain -- but sometimes it's enough that she makes you feel less ancient than you know you are.
Her name is Advil.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2016 11:35 PM

Well if that's the case I've some hotter dates regularly in recent years.

Tramadol was a regular for several yrs, we seldom see each other anymore, moved on to Mobic, not she's a daily regular, but then added Gabapentin several times a day. Also occasionally see Chlora..whatsherface.

Seems like a lot but it keeps me moving. After major surgeries in 2010, hip, and 2012, back, I've resigned myself to dealing w/ these whores for a while.

T

Posted by: Farmer at January 27, 2016 11:56 PM (o/90i)

99 46
Advil?



I prefer Vicky O. Din

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2016 11:39 PM (voOPb)


Advil is more approachable and friendly -- you might bump into her at a grocery store and spend the night together.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2016 11:56 PM (EzgxV)

100 A HP-15c calculator for your computer desktop:

http://hp15c.com/

Posted by: The Reverse Polish Hat at January 27, 2016 11:56 PM (vBeA5)

101 I've got a stack of old calculators. From my original Radio Shack scientific calculator, which I got in high school, which was the early 80s, on up to various HPs and TIs with graphing and all that.

It seems the TI market is purely for .edu purposes, now, and something of a racket to sell calculators, IMO.

I'm sure smart phone apps are used now (are they?) for a handheld device.

Somewhere I've got some simulator software for some fancy calculator buried here somewhere. Puts up a graphic window that looks like the calculator and does all the functions.

Hell, I don't know what they use now in school and college. Probably something dumbed down and LIVish.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 27, 2016 11:57 PM (dvuhZ)

102 so looks like fox is a little worried about the donald not showing up for the big debate.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2016 11:57 PM (vb33c)

103
You will live to regret that.

Seriously,
HP Scientific calculators are not easy to find. You have to find
scientific outlet that sells them. I never see them in stores.


Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at January 27, 2016 11:55 PM (+1T7c)


yeah probably.
I just got tired of having a calculator that was so different from what all the students have, of course they all have TI-somethings, because they would ask me how to do some calculation on their calculator and I wouldn't know, I would only know how to do it on mine.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2016 11:57 PM (uZNvH)

104 *fondles his curta*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 27, 2016 11:57 PM (21hN3)

105 My calculator of choice is the HP-42S (reverse polish). I have 2 of them and they have increased in value since 1991 when I bought the first one. I also have a HP-48GX and a HP-33S that I never use.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 27, 2016 11:58 PM (z+4T3)

106 And those doors on the DeLorean.


They look cool but are a pain in the ass and not very practical for day to day.





Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 27, 2016 11:54 PM


Yeah, well... people used to say that about glitter platform boots and purple satin trousers. They're wrong. Sometimes cool is totally worth it.

Posted by: otho at January 27, 2016 11:58 PM (EWg9n)

107 It seems the TI market is purely for .edu purposes, now, and something of a racket to sell calculators, IMO.

well, kinda.

You can do a lot with a TI calculator but you have to know what you are doing, and that is only about 1% of college students now

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2016 11:58 PM (uZNvH)

108 Nazis! Nazis are among you! You know who you are, don't even pretend!

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 27, 2016 11:59 PM (kpqmD)

109 So I just saw a commercial for a movie "Risen" which looks like a movie about Christ's Ressurection from the perspective of a Roman soldier looking for his body. Trailers look ok I guess. But then I see that someone has analyzed the first trailer and has "exposed" the illuminati and anti-Christ propaganda of this film and hoo-boy. Anyone want to role their eyes?

https://youtu.be/mEvsx3E8Q6E

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2016 11:59 PM (zt+N6)

110 I have become addicted to frozen french fries. (I know I'm a heathen)

But I can get them to the crispiness that I want and not what some machine programmed by a bean counter says is okay.

Plus they always bag the fries while waiting for the sandwich to come up and then the fries are cold. I always watch them like a hawk and demand fresh hot fries.

but making them myself is better. And no trip to the store and like 3 plates full cost $2.

I might buy a french fry potato slicer.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 27, 2016 11:59 PM (Xo1Rt)

111 Re: DeLoreans. It would be nice to see a new batch, especially with a better engine than that dog of a V6 the originals were saddled with. But, how will they be able to sell them as "new" cars without airbags, 5 mph bumpers, and all the other new safety shite? And retrofitting all the safety shite, and making it pass the rigorous testing would be hugely expensive. Perhaps their best option would be to offer them as kit cars.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 27, 2016 11:49 PM (Z8fuk)


so put a crate motor in the delorean

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2016 11:59 PM (vb33c)

112 99 46
Advil?



I prefer Vicky O. Din

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2016 11:39 PM (voOPb)


Advil is more approachable and friendly -- you might bump into her at a grocery store and spend the night together.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2016 11:56 PM (EzgxV)
***
Fuck that noise.

If a woman ain't at least as addictive or pleasant as any chemical alternative, then she ain't worth your time.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 28, 2016 12:00 AM (lutOX)

113 My parents bought me a TI SR-52 programmable
calculator when I started high school in 1975. I was in what would today
be called a science magnet school and had 3 hours of science classes a
day.



That calculator lasted me more than 10 years. I have no idea what happened to it.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit

I got a real nice Pickett Slide rule for Xmas in 1973. What a cruel joke my parents played on me. Everybody was getting TI-10's to use in math that year (senior high school).

At college, everybody had SR-50's then SR-52's. I got some off-brand Melcor SC-635 or some such nonsense. It died.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at January 28, 2016 12:00 AM (+1T7c)

114 Nazis! Nazis are among you! You know who you are, don't even pretend!
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016

And they're fapping to tentacle-rape hentai.

Posted by: Highbrow, Learned Intellectuals at National Review at January 28, 2016 12:00 AM (Pwh6H)

115 Ah yes, the first of the culture wars between the HP RPN calculators and the TI algebraics.

Not sure who won. I had TI SR-11s and SR-12s back in the day, may still have something in a box around here, but I ended up using a couple HP calculators later for a long, long time.

Posted by: Vince Foster at January 28, 2016 12:01 AM (o+SC1)

116 I'm sorry but we should have beaten them all to death with hammers. There are no alibis for doing such bad things, Albert, and you should have stuck a gun into your brothers ear and pulled the trigger.

Posted by: goon at January 28, 2016 12:01 AM (gy5kE)

117 69
Her name is Advil.




Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2016 11:35 PM (EzgxV)
Forget her, I'm the one, you *really* want


Posted by: Heroin, Advil's Racy Older Sister at January 27, 2016 11:47 PM (uZNvH)



Advil's wholesome and nice to be around -- and I've heard lots of rumors of bad things happening around you.




P.S. Send pics!

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2016 12:01 AM (EzgxV)

118 Some calculator humor, first employed on a TI-something in the 70s.

142 Israeli divisions (type in 142),

fought 154 Arab divisions (142154),

for 69 days (14215469)

then Henry Kissinger (there's no K, so you use the X)

and negotiated for 5 days (14215469 x 5), and who won?

Then you turn the calculator upside down and it says

SHELLOIL

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at January 28, 2016 12:02 AM (1xUj/)

119 They look cool but are a pain in the ass and not very practical for day to day.

Sigh.

Posted by: Tights and Pantyhose at January 28, 2016 12:02 AM (ntObR)

120 A ton of money was spent to impress Hitler with the Eagle's Nest ("Kehlsteinhaus") and it turned out that Der Fuhrer was afraid of heights. He only went there a few times.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 28, 2016 12:03 AM (sl+zA)

121 Big deal. The man was a pussy.
Posted by: George Soros

LOL. I was looking through the TV program guide listings and saw that Schindler's List was on and I immediately said to myself, as is my wont, "Only my shells worked, dammit!" in Monty Burns' voice.

[BTW, Pale Moon's spellchecker dictionary has Schindler and Schindler's in it without having to manually add them to it.]

Posted by: andycanuck at January 28, 2016 12:03 AM (WOyz5)

122 107 It seems the TI market is purely for .edu purposes, now, and something of a racket to sell calculators, IMO.

well, kinda.

You can do a lot with a TI calculator but you have to know what you are doing, and that is only about 1% of college students now
Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2016 11:58 PM (uZNvH)

Yeah, for my statics class, the last time I really used it, everyone else had cheap calculators. It seemed like everyone was doing it the hard way. All of these guys have smart phones, I'm sure.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 28, 2016 12:04 AM (VdICR)

123 so put a crate motor in the delorean

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2016 11:59 PM (vb33c)


If a DeLorean ever fell into my hands, with the horrible Pigout/Volvo V6 in it, I'd yank it out and drop in anything else. A late-model Rx-7 rotary might be a good choice, or even a built 4.3 liter Chevy V6. Don't know how much fore/aft room there is.


Heck, I'd put a supercharged Studebaker 259 in there. Just to see the purists' heads explode.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 28, 2016 12:05 AM (Z8fuk)

124 107: Oh yeah, my stack of TIs had all sorts of stuff. Routines to solve algebraic and diff. eq. systems, etc, etc, etc. and all that. Graphing apps galore. I've kept the manuals in pristine condition and they were pretty damn thick in the day.

I've got a TI-9x something. I don't think it caught on, but it was sort of square, ie wide not tall with a big screen and it had a brand new symbolic recognition interface, and I've forgotten the details.

You could enter formulae and it would pretty it up for you on the big display. You could enter say (5x + 2 = 10) or something and it would it solve for 'x' automatically, and crap like that.




Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 28, 2016 12:05 AM (dvuhZ)

125 Good evening - got an injection in my knee today, but I have a feeling knee replacement surgery is in my future....
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at January 27, 2016 11:36 PM

Good luck w/ that Teresa. Injections never did anything foe me and cost lots of bucks, but everyone is different.

I bit the bullet and had back surgery in 2010 at age 55 after a lifetime of docs jacking me around, injections did no good.

Not the same thing, as it turned out I had congenital hip dysplasia, but still I was glad I bit the bullet at 55 rather than waiting as some said.

Be wishes for your wellness.

T

Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2016 12:05 AM (o/90i)

126 You can do a lot with a TI calculator but you have to know what you are doing, and that is only about 1% of college students now

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2016 11:58 PM (uZNvH)


Add a key for calculating the Patriarchal Oppression Quotient and the entire Femynist Studies market opens up.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 28, 2016 12:06 AM (sl+zA)

127 As I've grown older and the list of parts that hurt grows longer, I've been considering heroin addition.

At my age and potential life span, what's the downside?

Even if I get caught and get put in jail, no body bothers the old dudes, even the crazies (and I can do a real good street person impersonation. You know the kind that mumbles to himself and drools) don't bother the old guys. Plus they'll put me on methadone for a while and they'd have to give me something for the arthritis and the gout and the kidney stones.

I think the prison system here isn't too bad it's not like it's the deep south or something. No hard labor.

What do you all think? Heroin or chase the dragon?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 28, 2016 12:07 AM (Xo1Rt)

128 The people at Consumer Reports talk about cars only in terms of being dangerous and expensive. They are no fun at all.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 28, 2016 12:07 AM (VdICR)

129 Teresa

Posted by: chemjeff at January 28, 2016 12:07 AM (uZNvH)

130 Nite morons
Be well

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 28, 2016 12:07 AM (voOPb)

131 The people at Consumer Reports talk about cars only in terms of being dangerous and expensive. They are no fun at all.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 28, 2016 12:07 AM (VdICR)


Kind of like relying on the New York Times for gun-buying tips.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 28, 2016 12:09 AM (Z8fuk)

132 Continuously pretending that a group is somehow eventually going to become like the rest of us is perhaps the deepest form of disrespect.[//i]



That's perfect, because the Muslims only deserve the deepest form of disrespect. Along with liberals.


Respect must be earned. It is not conferred because of one's consistent success in turning food into shit.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2016 12:09 AM (oKE6c)

133 the one good thing they did for my knee was extracting the fluid in there. That made the knee tighten up for the first time in like 8 years and I can balance on that leg again.

the say those injections aren't worth it and maybe even make things worse.

I told my doc, I've got to reduce my weight anyway for the operation so we'll see how that goes.

once you get the knee implants you're stuck if something goes wrong you're in a wheel chair from then on.

I don't want any more operations thank you.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 28, 2016 12:09 AM (Xo1Rt)

134 anyone catch where the head of the SWEDES ARMY. can you believe they have one, said prepare for war in Europe?

how do your go to war against gropers?


//sarc

Posted by: jake at January 28, 2016 12:09 AM (HLUeE)

135 Albert was much better-looking than his fat pig brother.

Posted by: baldilocks at January 28, 2016 12:10 AM (ys2UW)

136 If it's good enough for the balloon boy, it's good enough for me ... plus, the Asian chick looks pretty good, eh, Donald?

Posted by: goon at January 28, 2016 12:10 AM (gy5kE)

137 Delorean painted mustard yellow is hideous.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 28, 2016 12:11 AM (VdICR)

138 114
Nazis! Nazis are among you! You know who you are, don't even pretend!

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016



And they're fapping to tentacle-rape hentai.

Posted by: Highbrow, Learned Intellectuals at National Review at January 28, 2016 12:00 AM (Pwh6H)

Hello, is it me you're looking for?



Posted by: Lionel R'lyeh at January 28, 2016 12:11 AM (EzgxV)

139 "Yossi was found 19 days later, watering the riverbank."

A man has to piss when a man has to piss.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 12:11 AM (oFSUK)

140 137 Delorean painted mustard yellow is hideous.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 28, 2016 12:11 AM (VdICR)

Anything painted mustard yellow is hideous.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 28, 2016 12:12 AM (kpqmD)

141 okay birdie looks sleepy, and I am too so I am going to bed.
good night all
Teresa I hope your knee gets better!

Posted by: chemjeff at January 28, 2016 12:12 AM (uZNvH)

142 Someone stole my HP32 calculators out of my truck. It was reverse polish notation RPN. They will never figure out how to use it. Fuckers. I bought a replacement newer one and the batteries go dead in about 2 weeks.

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 28, 2016 12:13 AM (dULJN)

143 Anything painted mustard yellow is hideous.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 28, 2016 12:12 AM


Hey!

Posted by: Every Piper Cub, ever. at January 28, 2016 12:13 AM (Z8fuk)

144 and I can do a real good street person impersonation. You know the kind that mumbles to himself and drools
Yeah, "impersonation". Riiiight.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 28, 2016 12:14 AM (WOyz5)

145 Piper J-3. My favorite.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 28, 2016 12:14 AM (Xo1Rt)

146 68 I remember writing a simple command line RPN calculator as an exercise (in C, IIRC, trying to make the code as terse as possible). I've still got that code around here somewhere.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 27, 2016 11:47 PM (dvuhZ)


I remember doing that infix/postfix conversion exercise as a college assignment. I, too, probably have that code somewhere on a floppy buried in a box.

Here's a quick video covering the evolution of calculators posted a few weeks ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6jQVqkpjc8

The same guy posted a follow-up video regarding TI's domination in the educational field:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoGl8-Wc-L0

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at January 28, 2016 12:14 AM (jV8Mq)

147 Re: Unlikely survivors. John Colter was a badass.

Posted by: baldilocks at January 28, 2016 12:15 AM (ys2UW)

148


125 'after a lifetime of docs jacking me around'

Maybe if you spent less time on your knees, sucking cocks in bus station bathrooms for meth, you wouldn't hurt so bad...

Don't like docs? Next time you are sick or ill dial 911 and ask for a Homeopath...

Guess what, those docs who jacked you around did their best, based on the science and accepted practice of the times. Want a guarantee? I guarantee you suck...

Posted by: Brown Trout Liberation Movement at January 28, 2016 12:16 AM (LVG/7)

149 Hey! Millenium hand and shrimp. Buggrit. Bark?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 28, 2016 12:16 AM (Xo1Rt)

150 The story of the Essex survivors is a very good read. The navigational skills of the Captain were astonishing. I think they ended up sailing something like 5,000 miles in the open boats. Drew straws to see who would be eaten.

Captain Bligh was no slouch either.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 12:17 AM (oFSUK)

151 Posted by: Brown Trout Liberation Movement at January 28, 2016 12:16 AM (LVG/7)

Touched a nerve did they?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 28, 2016 12:17 AM (Xo1Rt)

152 test

Posted by: jake at January 28, 2016 12:19 AM (HLUeE)

153 That escalated quickly

Posted by: NCKate at January 28, 2016 12:20 AM (G0dcM)

154 I linked this in an earlier thread:

Remember the news about the evidence for "Planet 9" announced recently? Wellll...

http://www.leonarddavid.com/death-threat-from-planet-9/

(hat tip Transterrestrial Musings)


That's pretty much the first thing I thought when I heard about it.

Posted by: rickl at January 28, 2016 12:20 AM (sdi6R)

155 "can't happen here."

Look, we told you it could years ago.

Posted by: Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow, circa 1980 something at January 27, 2016 11:41 PM (gisJf)


Beat you to it by decades.

Posted by: Sinclair Lewis at January 28, 2016 12:20 AM (Ix+HS)

156 143 Anything painted mustard yellow is hideous.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 28, 2016 12:12 AM


Hey!
Posted by: Every Piper Cub, ever. at January 28, 2016 12:13 AM (Z8fuk)

Like I said. You're a good plane, but damn you're fugly.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 28, 2016 12:20 AM (kpqmD)

157
I had a HP-45 scientific calculator back in college and early grad school. Loved it. I am pretty sure it was lifted from me by one of my freshman students who stopped by my office during office hours while I was in the rest room, but I could not prove it. I never was a fan of the Texas Instruments line of calculators. I guess once you go RPN you never go back.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 28, 2016 12:21 AM (BK3ZS)

158 IBD piece on Bernie Sanders. Unbelievable. You thought the democrats couldn't get any worse than Obama? Apparently there is no bottom.

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/bernie-sanders-the-bum-who-wants-your-money/

Posted by: rrpjr at January 28, 2016 12:21 AM (s/yC1)

159 plate o shrimp

Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 28, 2016 12:21 AM (GdFQh)

160 *fondles his curta*
Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 27, 2016 11:57 PM

Ummm...curtins plural?

OK, this ONT is getting weird...


Nothing new I guess, beats beating politics BS over and over.


AoS daywalker poster- FU Trump fans...FU Cruz fans...FU everyone else's fans

AoS ONT poster- WTF is up?

Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2016 12:21 AM (o/90i)

161 Guess what, those docs who jacked you around did their best, based on the science and accepted practice of the times. Want a guarantee? I guarantee you suck...
Posted by: Brown Trout Liberation Movement
------------------------

A. You don't know that. It might be a reasonable assumption, even a well-educated guess, but still a guess. For the person on the receiving end, that doesn't so matter very, very much.

B. Back off... and go read the rules.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 12:23 AM (oFSUK)

162 HP-11C, HP-28C, HP-41CV, HP-67

Posted by: Eric Hoffer's Thumb at January 28, 2016 12:23 AM (9Ahw7)

163

We have murder inc. dead to rights with smoking gun footage of them trafficking in baby parts and the GOP just fully funded them and the whistleblowers are without a doubt going to do a 25 year stretch in prison.


I doubt it. An incitement from the Harris County GJ means very very little in actual court. And even if they are convicted, I bet you Gov. Abbot will pardon them.

Posted by: Weirddave at January 28, 2016 12:23 AM (N8hFs)

164 Knee replacements and calculators? What an ONT.

1969, pre-calc class, where my A+ math career ended. (Many personal problems contributed.) Son of teacher, sitting in the front, with his calculator, while the rest of us fiddled with slide rules. Harrumphs!

Good night, Gracies!

Posted by: mindful webworker - z at January 28, 2016 12:24 AM (epDn1)

165 Brown trout (salmo trutta) are an alien European fish and don't belong here. The East is home to the mighty brook trout (salvelinus fontinalis), which is technically a char. The Pacific drainages have native rainbow trout (oncorchyncus mykis, formerly salmo garninieri), and other native fish of the char and true trout families abide where god put them.

Rainbows do no belong in the East and brown trout do not belong in the New World.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at January 28, 2016 12:24 AM (1xUj/)

166 158
You thought the democrats couldn't get any worse than Obama?

Posted by: rrpjr at January 28, 2016 12:21 AM (s/yC1)


Si, senor.

Posted by: Hugo Chavez at January 28, 2016 12:24 AM (sdi6R)

167 146: I've save every piece of code I ever wrote, and even managed to copy all the stuff on 5.25" floppies over to the HD before I moved on to something without the 5.25" floppy. It's here somewhere, may have burned it to DVDs.

Anyway, I remember getting fancy. I wanted to make the C code as terse as possible (there's some contest of yore I remember). I used function pointers in an array as a jump table, indexing into based on which operator was in play.

The result was a lot of logic in a very terse bit of C code. It was basically one line or two. The professor gave me and A+ of course, and wrote "Show Off!" in red. Which is exactly what I was doing.

I'd bet you I couldn't immediately figure out that line from own damn code now if I saw it.

I was bad. I hated comments, but came to appreciate them when I encountered stuff I'd done that I couldn't make sense of later.

Once I actually reintroduced a bug. I noticed some function I'd written and said why in the hell did I do all that crap. It would be much easier to do it this way.

I then rediscovered the bug that the easy way had, which was the point of all the extra stuff. But I hadn't commented on it.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 28, 2016 12:25 AM (dvuhZ)

168 January is almost gone. The clock is ticking. The sheep are getting ready to vote. Heaven help us.

Posted by: goon at January 28, 2016 12:26 AM (gy5kE)

169 anyone paying attention to PEGIDA?

I don't see how Europe can maintain this course

Posted by: jake at January 28, 2016 12:26 AM (HLUeE)

170 Nice ONT, Maet. I especially enjoyed the shoot house clips.

Posted by: PabloD at January 28, 2016 12:26 AM (c9t4Y)

171 Because all you of Earth are idiots!!!

Posted by: eros at January 28, 2016 12:26 AM (WOyz5)

172 Posted by: Weirddave at January 28, 2016 12:23 AM (N8hFs)

Trouble is, the process is the punishment.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 28, 2016 12:26 AM (Xo1Rt)

173 Wednesday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/692498241833844737

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/692498492099575809

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/692498885139369985

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/692499127339520000

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2016 12:27 AM (xiye8)

174 Posted by: Brown Trout Liberation Movement at January 28, 2016 12:16 AM (LVG/7)

[sniffs]

Posted by: Maetenloch at January 28, 2016 12:27 AM (wqVD1)

175 Rainbows do no belong in the East and brown trout do not belong in the New World.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at January 28, 2016 12:24 AM (1xUj/)



Specieist.

Posted by: buzzion at January 28, 2016 12:28 AM (zt+N6)

176 AoS ONT poster- WTF is up?

Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2016 12:21 AM (o/90i)

And ONT Compliance Pics

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2016 12:28 AM (xiye8)

177 By the way, I died a billionaire. Suck on that, peasants.

Posted by: Hugo Chavez at January 28, 2016 12:28 AM (sdi6R)

178 Hey everybody.

You kids and your retro calculators. I want one of these. (And yes, I learned about it from someone here.)

http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/07/kodak-super-8-camera-prototype-hands-on/

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2016 12:29 AM (ntObR)

179 I died a billionaire. Suck on that, peasants.

....
fat and stoopid too

Posted by: jake at January 28, 2016 12:29 AM (HLUeE)

180 I'm keeping a close eye on what happens in Europe and GB.

Cause that's our future if these idiots get there way. And even if they're thwarted next year, they've already seeded the ground with the illiterate and crazies.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 28, 2016 12:29 AM (Xo1Rt)

181 Oopsie! I meant to share the TinyURL version. Sorry Pixy!!

http://tinyurl.com/h6bruzo

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2016 12:30 AM (ntObR)

182 I've save every piece of code I ever wrote,
---------------

By contrast, I have destroyed as much as possible. I have this lingering fear that buried deep in a micro-controller somewhere lies my fingerprint. When the plane crashes, building burns down, ordnance bunker goes up, etc., etc. I'm hoping there are no traceable links to my design involvement.

Burn this post.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 12:30 AM (oFSUK)

183 Yep, hard to go back after you go RPN

Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 28, 2016 12:31 AM (dULJN)

184 By the way, I died a billionaire. Suck on that, peasants.
Posted by: Hugo Chavez
----------------

Me too!

Posted by: Zombie Steve Jobs at January 28, 2016 12:31 AM (oFSUK)

185 Curse you Mike Hammer!

Posted by: MH370 at January 28, 2016 12:32 AM (1xUj/)

186 Nah. You're probably safe unless you wrote your name in a comment somewhere.

And your boss or you're company took credit for it anyway.

I've done stuff like that too. the easy way winds up with 3 bugs and bad logic. Then you spend all night correcting it and forget to comment it. Then when it finally works you say "Oh I'll remember why I did that it's so obvious."

Sucker. The mind is willing but the fingers are lazy bastards.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 28, 2016 12:33 AM (Xo1Rt)

187 that's why I'm always leery about those html compression programs.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 28, 2016 12:34 AM (Xo1Rt)

188 I will never forget the first time I laid eyes on a calculator that could perform square roots. That's an easy thing to do if you have a slide rule, but still...

Posted by: Zombie Steve Jobs at January 28, 2016 12:35 AM (oFSUK)

189 The HP-41CX was the best calculator ever.

But I'm still partial to my Curta.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 28, 2016 12:35 AM (RcpcZ)

190 Mike Hammer was heeeeere, losers!!!

Posted by: forgotten easter egg at January 28, 2016 12:35 AM (WOyz5)

191 But I'm still partial to my Curta.
Posted by: Ed Anger
-------------

Just can't let go of your crank, eh?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 12:37 AM (oFSUK)

192 Well, that's it for me for the night. See you all 'tomorrow'.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 28, 2016 12:37 AM (WOyz5)

193
IBD piece on Bernie Sanders. Unbelievable. You thought the democrats
couldn't get any worse than Obama? Apparently there is no bottom.



http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/bernie-sanders-the-bum-who-wants-your-money/


Posted by: rrpjr



That's hilarious. Is this a great country, or what?

(facepalm)

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at January 28, 2016 12:37 AM (+1T7c)

194 174
Posted by: Brown Trout Liberation Movement at January 28, 2016 12:16 AM (LVG/7)

[sniffs]


Posted by: Maetenloch at January 28, 2016 12:27 AM (wqVD1)


*Eyes cover.....*

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2016 12:38 AM (EzgxV)

195 Re "Planet 9" (one of the guys on the team that came up with this was the guy who lead the charge to demote Pluto, the bastid) being a Doomsday planet.

I think that link is proposing it knocks shit into the inner solar system and leads to periodic SMODs or something. I don't know how valid that concern is. IIRC, the new planet has to have some strange resonance with the known KBOs out there, and it may have already "cleaned the field" and everything is now stable. They really couldn't believe it, as the whole configuration was very unlikely but it turned out to be the most likely scenario to explain the observations.

Now, this will also gin up the "Nibiru"/Planet X/Sitchin shit, I imagine, especially with the "highly elliptical orbit" thing.

Nothing of the sort. Any low rent gravity simulator program, using simple Newtonian gravity, will show that any massive planet on an elliptical orbit with a perihelion inside the inner solar system is highly unstable. The inner planets will be tossed about, even thrown out of the solar system.




Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 28, 2016 12:38 AM (dvuhZ)

196 http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/07/kodak-super-8-camera-prototype-hands-on/

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2016 12:29 AM (ntObR)


Gee. An opportunity to spend $35 for a roll of film that runs for 5 minutes.


My little Canon camera takes video. A feature I have practically never used.


I can't see spending hundreds of dollars on a movie camera with such huge built-in limitations.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 28, 2016 12:38 AM (Z8fuk)

197 177 >> By the way, I died a billionaire. Suck on that, peasants.

Yeah, you also died in agony from cancer, after receiving the best medical care available in Cuba...

Ouch.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 28, 2016 12:40 AM (gyKtp)

198
Just can't let go of your crank, eh?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 12:37 AM (oFSUK)


Nothing like turning your crank for the right answer!

BTW- did you hear about the constipated mathematician?



He worked it out with a pencil.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 28, 2016 12:40 AM (RcpcZ)

199 "116
I'm sorry but we should have beaten them all to death with hammers.
There are no alibis for doing such bad things, Albert, and you should
have stuck a gun into your brothers ear and pulled the trigger.

Posted by: goon at January 28, 2016 12:01 AM (gy5kE)"


I am always impressed by the number of people who claim that other people should have been as brave as they would certainly have been in dire circumstances. It makes me wonder why the military bothers awarding medals since extreme bravery and disregard for one's own life is so common.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 28, 2016 12:41 AM (QHgTq)

200 125 'after a lifetime of docs jacking me around'

Maybe if you spent less time on your knees, sucking cocks in bus station bathrooms for meth, you wouldn't hurt so bad...

Don't like docs? Next time you are sick or ill dial 911 and ask for a Homeopath...

Guess what, those docs who jacked you around did their best, based on the science and accepted practice of the times. Want a guarantee? I guarantee you suck...

Posted by: Brown Trout Liberation Movement at January 28, 2016 12:16 AM

I'd like any cob that might watching this ONT to banhammer this above BTL troll. I've done nothing to deserve this personal attack, as per the recent policy this deserves banning.

Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2016 12:41 AM (o/90i)

201 I can't see spending hundreds of dollars on a movie camera with such huge built-in limitations.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
---------------
Hmm... says the fellow driving a 35(?) year old roadster with a sticky valve.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 12:41 AM (oFSUK)

202

... retro calculators


As mention upstream ... Curta. I saw one once, in Bangalore, in the field, being used by an insurance adjuster. I thought it was neat, but didn't realize just how neat it was.

But now I think a Comdyna GP10S ... or maybe a Heathkit EC1 (since I'm on a budget) is the plan.

Posted by: Arbalest at January 28, 2016 12:42 AM (FlRtG)

203 Posted by: Ed Anger at January 28, 2016 12:40 AM (RcpcZ)

Jeesh, that joke's at least 50 years old that I know of.

Probably longer. When did they first invent the pencil?

or was it originally a quill?

Ow!@

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 28, 2016 12:42 AM (Xo1Rt)

204 Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2016 12:41 AM (o/90i)

I'm with Farmer, that was totally uncalled for.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 28, 2016 12:44 AM (Xo1Rt)

205 Hmm... says the fellow driving a 35(?) year old roadster with a sticky valve.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 12:41 AM (oFSUK)


The sticky valve has mostly healed itself. Marvel Mystery Oil ackbar! And I got an entire car for about the price of that Kodak Super Eight.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 28, 2016 12:44 AM (Z8fuk)

206 Yoko spooning pics?
*switches on sybian and salivates*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 28, 2016 12:45 AM (3zIaA)

207 195
Any low rent gravity simulator program, using simple Newtonian gravity, will show that any massive planet on an elliptical orbit with a perihelion inside the inner solar system is highly unstable. The inner planets will be tossed about, even thrown out of the solar system.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 28, 2016 12:38 AM (dvuhZ)


The thing is, there are apparently credible simulations of the early solar system where a fifth gas giant gets tossed out of the inner solar system by a close encounter with one of the other four.

There may also be Earth-sized objects out there, too.

Posted by: rickl at January 28, 2016 12:45 AM (sdi6R)

208 As I've grown older and the list of parts that hurt grows longer, I've been considering heroin addition.

At my age and potential life span, what's the downside?

Even
if I get caught and get put in jail, no body bothers the old dudes,
even the crazies (and I can do a real good street person impersonation.
You know the kind that mumbles to himself and drools) don't bother the
old guys. Plus they'll put me on methadone for a while and they'd have
to give me something for the arthritis and the gout and the kidney
stones.

I think the prison system here isn't too bad it's not like it's the deep south or something. No hard labor.

What do you all think? Heroin or chase the dragon?




Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 28, 2016 12:07 AM


It is expensive. There's a few things to consider on top of that. Serious?

Posted by: otho at January 28, 2016 12:45 AM (EWg9n)

209 As mention upstream ... Curta. I saw one once, in Bangalore, in the field, being used by an insurance adjuster. I thought it was neat, but didn't realize just how neat it was.

But now I think a Comdyna GP10S ... or maybe a Heathkit EC1 (since I'm on a budget) is the plan.

Posted by: Arbalest at January 28, 2016 12:42 AM (FlRtG)


Time was, you weren't a serious rallyist, if you didn't have a Curta to crank.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 28, 2016 12:45 AM (Z8fuk)

210 AOP, fair enough but I'm one of these weirdos who'd like to see if he can learn a bit about classic film cinematography, and a good way to do that is to actually work with a couple rolls of film.

Anyway. The thing also shoots to SD cards.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2016 12:45 AM (ntObR)

211 I'll just do a little bit.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 28, 2016 12:46 AM (Xo1Rt)

212 AOP, you got a car for less than $700?

The price point expected on the Kodak is $450-700.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2016 12:46 AM (ntObR)

213 Well, thanks for the entertainment.

Maet as usual a stellar performance. I don't know how you find the time let alone the links.

See you all on the sunny side.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 28, 2016 12:48 AM (Xo1Rt)

214 Anyway. The thing also shoots to SD cards.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2016 12:45 AM (ntObR)


Better check that. From my reading of the article, it just recorded audio to the SD card.


Could you not find a nice used Bolex for that kind of coin, and shoot 16 mm, with better image quality?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 28, 2016 12:49 AM (Z8fuk)

215 The sticky valve has mostly healed itself. Marvel Mystery Oil ackbar! And I got an entire car for about the price of that Kodak Super Eight.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
----------------

I have to take the shots that are available to me. Glad to hear the valve is behaving.

>Time was, you weren't a serious rallyist, if you didn't have a Curta to crank.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

and, stringback gloves.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 12:49 AM (oFSUK)

216
Jeesh, that joke's at least 50 years old that I know of.
...

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 28, 2016 12:42 AM (Xo1Rt)


It's juvenile, which is why I posted it.

And somebody needs to banhammer the brown trout. That was worsse than juvenile, it's vulgar.

That mirror universe guy did it to me once.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 28, 2016 12:50 AM (RcpcZ)

217 AOP, sure that's worth looking into. Like I said, I'd like to learn at least a little bit about classic film cinematography.

I admit though, I'm a gizmo addict. If I were a millionaire...

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2016 12:50 AM (ntObR)

218 AOP, you got a car for less than $700?

The price point expected on the Kodak is $450-700.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2016 12:46 AM (ntObR)


I paid $800 for the TR6. Biggest expenditure so far is about $250 for four tires. So not much more than the high-end Super 8.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 28, 2016 12:51 AM (Z8fuk)

219 >Time was, you weren't a serious rallyist, if you didn't have a Curta to crank.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
-----------------

You know what's really distracting in a rally? To have another rally car come blasting by, going in the opposite direction.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 12:51 AM (oFSUK)

220
Navigator: Stop!, Stop!
Driver: Why?
Navigator: We're ahead of schedule.
Driver: What? How much?
Navigator: No, wait, we're behind time... go, go!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 12:54 AM (oFSUK)

221

And somebody needs to banhammer the brown trout.


Might I recommend flushing, followed by a private shower?

I liberated a brown trout yesterday, about an hour after gym-time ... and yes, a shower was needed.

Posted by: Arbalest at January 28, 2016 12:54 AM (FlRtG)

222 "158
IBD piece on Bernie Sanders. Unbelievable. You thought the democrats
couldn't get any worse than Obama? Apparently there is no bottom.



http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/bernie-sanders-the-bum-who-wants-your-money/

Posted by: rrpjr at January 28, 2016 12:21 AM (s/yC1)"


Many people are incompetent in every field of endeavor but one in which they excel. For example, Ulysses Grant was a failure in every thing he tried except that he was a genius at military command and defeated the more esteemed Robert E.Lee just like every other commander he faced. His Presidency, however was nothing to write home about.

Similarly, Bernie Sanders may well suck as a carpenter but he seems to do very well at getting left leaning folk to vote for him. And if he winds up as the Democrat candidate after Hillary! is carted off to federal prison and facing some GOP establishment squish, he will get me to vote for him as the Let It Burn candidate. Let It Burn with Bernie.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 28, 2016 12:54 AM (QHgTq)

223 I have to take the shots that are available to me. Glad to hear the valve is behaving.

>Time was, you weren't a serious rallyist, if you didn't have a Curta to crank.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

and, stringback gloves.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 12:49 AM (oFSUK)


The intermittent sticky valves have mostly cleared up, and I'm confident that a few more miles will finish the job. But it seems to have a steady miss on #2, so a compression test is in order. Might have to have its little head off yet. But that's scarcely a hard job for me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 28, 2016 12:55 AM (Z8fuk)

224 Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2016 12:41 AM (o/90i)
I'm with Farmer, that was totally uncalled for.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 28, 2016 12:44 AM

TY BC and Mike Hammer. That was just out of line. Actually I don't think I've ever had such an obnoxious here ever.

Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2016 12:55 AM (o/90i)

225
Maet, really an outstanding ONT. Though maybe that depends on personal interests.

Did not know about Goering's brother (wenn nur ich umlauten hatte). Was interesting seeing Goering's periodic rises and falls in the Nazi hierarchy in terms of prestige or respect, as reflected in Goebbels' diaries (book by Peter Longerrich).

Gonna send the shoot-house clip to my friend the former SEAL, with whom I'll be burning a nice Nicaraguan stogie manana, courtesy of Alberta Oil Peon. My friend sets upnice courses of fire (paper and steel) at one of the smaller ranges when we have range officer duty day at a local range complex. We haven't yet incorporated any heart-rate stuff (push-ups, jump squats, burpees) but we plan to, just for fun, to see how our performance is affected.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 28, 2016 12:56 AM (QDnY+)

226 why would anybody diss the Farmer? Ban that fucker permantly. What a fuckin dick! Farmer's good people.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 28, 2016 12:56 AM (ucDmr)

227 (a) I did not know that Kodak was still in the camera business;

(ii) I miss emulsion film, working in darkrooms, and all of that;

(3) even in its heyday 8mm was a pretty tiny, grainy format;

(quatro) when I decided I needed a new digital camera this summer I eschewed technical research into specs and got a Nikon 1 J5 because it's so awesomely retro looking.

And I got a super retro looking leather case for it from China (I don't mean made in China, I mean I ordered it from ebay and they shipped it straight to me, from China, I think by FedEx) for $12.

I do not understand how that is possible.

http://bit.ly/1nzMmnJ

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at January 28, 2016 12:57 AM (1xUj/)

228 224 Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2016 12:41 AM (o/90i)
I'm with Farmer, that was totally uncalled for.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 28, 2016 12:44 AM
TY BC and Mike Hammer. That was just out of line. Actually I don't think I've ever had such an obnoxious here ever.
Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2016 12:55 AM (o/90i)


Google the hash on this site i.e. "site:minx.cc hash" and you'll see who it is.

Posted by: Maetenloch at January 28, 2016 12:59 AM (wqVD1)

229 And I got a super retro looking leather case for it from China (I don't mean made in China, I mean I ordered it from ebay and they shipped it straight to me, from China, I think by FedEx) for $12.

I do not understand how that is possible.
------------------

I have designed printed circuit boards, clicked the Send button (sending the design to an intermediary in Canada), and had the boards delivered to my doorstep 5 days later, from China. Freaking unreal.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 01:00 AM (oFSUK)

230 1969, pre-calc class, where my A+ math career ended. (Many personal problems contributed.) Son of teacher, sitting in the front, with his calculator, while the rest of us fiddled with slide rules. Harrumphs!

Good night, Gracies!
Posted by: mindful webworker - z at January 28, 2016 12:24 AM (epDn1)


Yep. Calc disabused any notion of my going into a heavy Math Degree. Acing Algebra tests and then ......

..... shot down Somewhere in the South Pacific.

Thank. The. Lord.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 28, 2016 01:00 AM (WWdgA)

231 222
And if he winds up as the Democrat candidate after Hillary! is carted off to federal prison and facing some GOP establishment squish, he will get me to vote for him as the Let It Burn candidate. Let It Burn with Bernie.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 28, 2016 12:54 AM (QHgTq)


I would not vote for an open and admitted Socialist.

If it comes down to Sanders vs. Bush or Rubio, I will write in my cat's name. She's over 35 in human years, and I can personally vouch that she is a natural born citizen, since she was born in my bedroom closet.

Posted by: rickl at January 28, 2016 01:01 AM (sdi6R)

232 Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 28, 2016 12:07 AM

It is expensive. There's a few things to consider on top of that. Serious?
Posted by: otho at January 28, 2016 12:45 AM

BC, if you want to talk about options for pain relief shoot me an email in my nic below.

T

Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2016 01:01 AM (o/90i)

233 Bandersnatch, so am I sane or insane in your eyes? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2016 01:03 AM (ntObR)

234 If it comes down to Sanders vs. Bush or Rubio, I will write in my cat's
name. She's over 35 in human years, and I can personally vouch that she
is a natural born citizen, since she was born in my bedroom closet.


Get her a Hawaii birth certificate and you're all set.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 28, 2016 01:03 AM (YJmuy)

235 Google the hash on this site i.e. "site:minx.cc hash" and you'll see who it is.
--------

OG? That doesn't seem right

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 01:04 AM (oFSUK)

236 235 Google the hash on this site i.e. "site:minx.cc hash" and you'll see who it is.
--------

OG? That doesn't seem right

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 01:04 AM (oFSUK)



And it shouldn't matter.

Posted by: buzzion at January 28, 2016 01:05 AM (zt+N6)

237 OG? That doesn't seem right

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 01:04 AM (oFSUK)


IIRC, he is an ER physician, and figured Farmer's doctor rant was a slam at him. But, still, uncalled-for.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 28, 2016 01:06 AM (Z8fuk)

238
Cicero - if you're still here - never knew Der Fuhrer was not comfortable in the Eagle's Nest. You mean the mountain-top place with the gold-leafed elevator, gifted to him by "the party" in the 30s, right? (and pictured in the fantastic Easy Company photo up top)

Because he spent lots of time in Berchtesgaden. I had assumed the Eagle's Nest was his residence there, but I need edumucation.

Staying with an ONT theme, Goering also had a sumptuous place in Berchtesgaden (accurately portrayed, I believe, in Band of Brothers, to include the amazing wine cellar with the looted booze treasures of Europe).

Posted by: rhomboid at January 28, 2016 01:06 AM (QDnY+)

239 BC, if you want to talk about options for pain relief shoot me an email in my nic below.



T





Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2016 01:01 AM


Was up for giving him some advice on the matter, but, I don't think he was serious.

Posted by: otho at January 28, 2016 01:07 AM (EWg9n)

240 Bandersnatch, so am I sane or insane in your eyes? ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve



I am the last human you'd want to ask that of.

If you have a retro itch and that thing will scratch it, I'm all in favor of it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at January 28, 2016 01:07 AM (1xUj/)

241 On the subject of the wonders of the internet combined with low wage nations, women can use the eShakti web site to get custom made clothes. Take your measurements or have somebody take them for you and enter them when you set up an account. Pick the dress you like from their selection and choose any options you prefer and then give them your credit card number. In less than a week the clothes are sent from India to Germany and then to your doorstep. I don't know the reason for the intermediate Germany step.


A lawyer I know does something similar with suits custom made in Romania.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 28, 2016 01:08 AM (QHgTq)

242 There's a famous line from the TV show M*A*S*H that Goering "wore a tutu and ate whole bakeries."

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2016 01:08 AM (ntObR)

243 Working?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 28, 2016 01:09 AM (hlMPp)

244 why would anybody diss the Farmer? Ban that fucker permantly. What a fuckin dick! Farmer's good people.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 28, 2016 12:56 AM

LMFAO, w/ tears. I think you're fine folk too, you and the mrs. Be well.

Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2016 01:10 AM (o/90i)

245 228
224 Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2016 12:41 AM (o/90i)
I'm with Farmer, that was totally uncalled for.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 28, 2016 12:44 AM
TY BC and Mike Hammer. That was just out of line. Actually I don't think I've ever had such an obnoxious here ever.
Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2016 12:55 AM (o/90i)

Google the hash on this site i.e. "site:minx.cc hash" and you'll see who it is.


Posted by: Maetenloch at January 28, 2016 12:59 AM (wqVD1)


OK, then.....I'm glad to see he's alive. Sorry to see he's demented.

Brown trout -- swim into the light!!!! Come and be a Moron again!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2016 01:10 AM (EzgxV)

246 Well, I am off to the snoozer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 28, 2016 01:12 AM (Z8fuk)

247 There's a famous line from the TV show M*A*S*H that Goering "wore a tutu and ate whole bakeries."

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2016 01:08 AM (ntObR)


Hermann also loved his toy electric trains.

Posted by: RickZ at January 28, 2016 01:13 AM (Ix+HS)

248 Google the hash on this site i.e. "site:minx.cc hash" and you'll see who it is.

Posted by: Maetenloch at January 28, 2016 12:59 AM (wqVD1)


very interesting -- cthulhu might want to do the search as well. iirc he was asking about this person a few weeks ago.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 28, 2016 01:14 AM (gyKtp)

249 Night all.

Here is "Princess Leather" by Heather Leather:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YWyUXPHNgo

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2016 01:14 AM (vBeA5)

250 Hermann also loved his toy electric trains.

So did Gomez Adams.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 28, 2016 01:15 AM (YJmuy)

251 Aaand I see cthulhu has already done it.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 28, 2016 01:17 AM (gyKtp)

252 "231
222

And if he winds up as the Democrat candidate after Hillary! is
carted off to federal prison and facing some GOP establishment squish,
he will get me to vote for him as the Let It Burn candidate. Let It Burn
with Bernie.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 28, 2016 12:54 AM (QHgTq)



I would not vote for an open and admitted Socialist.



If it comes down to Sanders vs. Bush or Rubio, I will write in my
cat's name. She's over 35 in human years, and I can personally vouch
that she is a natural born citizen, since she was born in my bedroom
closet.

Posted by: rickl at January 28, 2016 01:01 AM (sdi6R)"

As H.L.Menken said:

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.

After reelecting Barack Obama in 2012, my lover for the American people is significantly diminished. I am perfectly willing to see them get the poverty and chaos of socialism that they seem to want and I am willing to seen them get it good and hard.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 28, 2016 01:17 AM (QHgTq)

253 Qdpsteve....

How'd you do today?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 28, 2016 01:17 AM (hlMPp)

254 "250
Hermann also loved his toy electric trains.

So did Gomez Adams.


Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 28, 2016 01:15 AM (YJmuy)"

And Frank Sinatra.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 28, 2016 01:19 AM (QHgTq)

255
Way up top, people marvelling at the price of produce.

Concur, at least WRT bell peppers. They've been up to $1.50 each (!!) for over a year at many places. Rarely below 75 cents a piece, even at the Asian stores. Incomprehensible, without more info.

Last year limes went up like health "insurance" after the ACA catastrophe. But there was at least a plausible back-story. Some sort of blight in the Mexican growing regions. Also, oddly, some cartel-related thing that had directly affected the lime-growing areas.

But bell peppers? WTF? And the prices have held even as oil has plummeted, sort of weakening any energy-centric explanation.

Anyway, current cost of red romaine, green leaf, and bibb lettuce is zero, as they're growing robustly in the back yard. Gonna have to give some to neighbors and friends to use it up and maximize total useable production before they bolt.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 28, 2016 01:21 AM (QDnY+)

256 I'll take Browns over Cutthroat any day.

Though i would prefer to see more Brookies than any of them.

Posted by: garrett at January 28, 2016 01:21 AM (b99VK)

257 RWC, I think I did a tiny bit better today.

Breakfast: Jimmy Dean sage sausage
Snack: banana
Lunch: 9 Chili's stuffed jalapenos and some ranch. Also I was dying for something sweet, so I had some hot chocolate.
Dinner: Went to Islands, a burger place, but got their "CA Flyer," which is a grilled chicken sandwich with fried shredded onion ("island reds"), pepper jack, bbq sauce, and lettuce/tomato. Went ahead and added guac. Water to drink, and I only ate about 5 of the fries (left most of them on the table).

Not perfect, but still trying. Thanks for asking. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2016 01:23 AM (ntObR)

258 251
Aaand I see cthulhu has already done it.


Posted by: GnuBreed at January 28, 2016 01:17 AM (gyKtp)


Right now, I'm in "come back and play fair" mode.....but I can see how a couple more weeks will be in "knock that shit off" territory.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2016 01:24 AM (EzgxV)

259 A possible $906 a day job for members of the HQ lifestyle:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jstrszw

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2016 01:24 AM (vBeA5)

260 So did Gomez Adams.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 28, 2016 01:15 AM (YJmuy)


So do I and Rod Stewart, but none of us were/are Nazis. Although to the Left, I probably am a Nazi. Because I'm a Reich winger, even though the Nazis were socialist. (Nobody can ever accuse the Left of knowing actual, honest-to-God, History.)

Posted by: RickZ at January 28, 2016 01:24 AM (Ix+HS)

261 I'll take Browns over Cutthroat any day.

I might technically have posted my brown trout rant as a rebuke to the eponymous poster.

However, cutthroat are also an indigenous species. I've only ever caught one, because I've only fished in the West once.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at January 28, 2016 01:25 AM (1xUj/)

262 'Sup?
Miss anything?
Who is fucking with Farmer? Because I WILL cut a bitch...

Posted by: Chi Lauren Greene at January 28, 2016 01:26 AM (2drjI)

263
Hmm, didn't know Goering liked model trains (glances at O-scale fire engine car on workbench nearing restoration to working condition). His gluttony and drug addiction were well known even in his own time and were part of the reason he lost standing in the leadership.

As a joke in Germany during the war went - incorporating widespread disrespect for two prominent Nazis - we'll know the war is over when Goering fits in Goebbels' pants.

Obnoxious a-hole, you echo some thoughts I've long had but just don't put out there in these comments. And for now I'll leave it there.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 28, 2016 01:27 AM (QDnY+)

264 If it comes down to Sanders vs. Bush or Rubio, I will write in my

cat's name. She's over 35 in human years, and I can personally vouch

that she is a natural born citizen, since she was born in my bedroom

closet.



Posted by: rickl at January 28, 2016 01:01 AM (sdi6R)"



If it gets to that point, I'll hold my nose and vote Libertarian (the only third party on the ballot in Texas). They're nuts, but I'd rather have amateur nuts than professional thieves and fucking communists.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 28, 2016 01:27 AM (J+mig)

265 If it gets to that point, I'll hold my nose and vote Libertarian (the only third party on the ballot in Texas). They're nuts, but I'd rather have amateur nuts than professional thieves and fucking communists.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 28, 2016 01:27 AM (J+mig)


Frankly, every ballot should have a "None of these candidates" option.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2016 01:29 AM (vBeA5)

266 So do I and Rod Stewart, but none of us were/are Nazis.

I was going for the seriously mentally disturbed angle.

But since I had to explain, it obviously wasn't funny.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 28, 2016 01:29 AM (YJmuy)

267 How'd he do?

Posted by: Chi Lauren Greene at January 28, 2016 01:30 AM (2drjI)

268 257
RWC, I think I did a tiny bit better today.



Breakfast: Jimmy Dean sage sausage

Snack: banana

Lunch: 9 Chili's stuffed jalapenos and some ranch. Also I was dying for something sweet, so I had some hot chocolate.

Dinner: Went to Islands, a burger place, but got their "CA Flyer,"
which is a grilled chicken sandwich with fried shredded onion ("island
reds"), pepper jack, bbq sauce, and lettuce/tomato. Went ahead and added
guac. Water to drink, and I only ate about 5 of the fries (left most of
them on the table).



Not perfect, but still trying. Thanks for asking. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2016 01:23 AM (ntObR)


Dude, that was great!!!! After a couple of days of that sort of thing, you should feel a definite decrease in the immediacy of your food cravings and a build-up of your endurance level. You may have done better on carbs than I did -- I front-loaded some in anticipation of what has me cuddled up with Advil tonight. How do you feel?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2016 01:31 AM (EzgxV)

269 cthulhu, thanks.

I feel... mildly hungry. But nothing I can't handle.

I also walked around the block today. Been a good boy. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2016 01:32 AM (ntObR)

270 224 Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2016 12:41 AM (o/90i)
I'm with Farmer, that was totally uncalled for.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 28, 2016 12:44 AM
TY BC and Mike Hammer. That was just out of line. Actually I don't think I've ever had such an obnoxious here ever.
Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2016 12:55 AM (o/90i)

Google the hash on this site i.e. "site:minx.cc hash" and you'll see who it is.


Posted by: Maetenloch at January 28, 2016 12:59 AM (wqVD1)
OK, then.....I'm glad to see he's alive. Sorry to see he's demented.
Brown trout -- swim into the light!!!! Come and be a Moron again!!!
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2016 01:10 AM

Can you shoot me an email? I'm lost on this Brown Trout crap.


Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2016 01:32 AM (o/90i)

271 269
cthulhu, thanks.



I feel... mildly hungry. But nothing I can't handle.



I also walked around the block today. Been a good boy. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2016 01:32 AM (ntObR)


Very nice. You have definitely earned virtue points.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2016 01:34 AM (EzgxV)

272 Can you shoot me an email? I'm lost on this Brown Trout crap.

It's the poster generally known as OG Celtic American.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at January 28, 2016 01:34 AM (1xUj/)

273 cthulhu, good to hear. :-)

Now to see if I can stick with it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2016 01:34 AM (ntObR)

274
Haven't replaced the broken oven yet, so first time roasting a whole chicken on the gas grill. Spectacular. Used some hickory chips that happened to be lying around but not sure the smoke made it into the flavor.

Favorite recipe - salt and meyer lemon zest under the skin, lemon slices in the cavity, shallots in the pan underneath, sauce made with the shallots, drippings, and some lemon juice (lemons picked off tree 1 minute before use). Green salad with .... uh, lots of home-grown lettuce. Stove-top home fries (again, broken oven) with fresh rosemary from the yard, and garlic powder/salt. Argentine torrontes (also goes into the sauce), nice and crisp (though why the price doesn't decline when Argentina's currency has once again become worthless puzzles and annoys me).

The passengers will dine well even as the ship sinks beneath the (non-culinary) brine .....

Posted by: rhomboid at January 28, 2016 01:34 AM (QDnY+)

275 So do I and Rod Stewart, but none of us were/are Nazis. Although to the Left, I probably am a Nazi. Because I'm a Reich winger, even though the Nazis were socialist. (Nobody can ever accuse the Left of knowing actual, honest-to-God, History.)

Posted by: RickZ at January 28, 2016 01:24 AM (Ix+HS)


Our definitions of Left and Right have flipped. The words originally referred to seating in the Estates General, with those on the Left being Republicans and those on the Right being Monarchists. In the modern world, you have people on the right being for individual liberty (traditional left) and people on the left being for an all-powerful state (traditional right). It's absolutely backwards, and I have a feeling that the media has done this re-definition intentionally, just as they hide their Marxism under the name of liberalism.

What we call the left is the old right, and they're the same as they always have been. They want an almighty state to rule over the starving masses, and the only change is that they now support putting The Party in charge instead of a hereditary aristocracy.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 28, 2016 01:36 AM (J+mig)

276 G'night everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 28, 2016 01:37 AM (YJmuy)

277 Frankly, every ballot should have a "None of these candidates" option.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2016 01:29 AM (vBeA5)


I think "None of these" would win in a landslide.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 28, 2016 01:37 AM (J+mig)

278 Used some hickory chips that happened to be lying around but not sure the smoke made it into the flavor.


Did you soak them? If they're dry, chips just burn and add heat. If they're wet they smoke more.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at January 28, 2016 01:37 AM (1xUj/)

279 It's the poster generally known as OG Celtic American.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
---------
Wha?

Are we sure that it isn't just a fluke where maybe Ira got randomly assigned an old hash OG used to have?

Posted by: Chi Lauren Greene at January 28, 2016 01:37 AM (2drjI)

280 Are we sure that it isn't just a fluke where maybe Ira got randomly assigned an old hash OG used to have?

That's possible. A couple of months ago Bigby got darn near embannenated because he had a hash identical to a troll.

So rare, but possible.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at January 28, 2016 01:39 AM (1xUj/)

281 Darn. Couldn't sleep. Had to wake up just in time to read that junk.

Thats what I get for being an insomniac.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Culinary Heathen at January 28, 2016 01:40 AM (WVsWD)

282 'Sup?
Miss anything?
Who is fucking with Farmer? Because I WILL cut a bitch...
Posted by: Chi Lauren Greene at January 28, 2016 01:26 AM

LMAO again, tears here...

TY Horde

Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2016 01:41 AM (o/90i)

283 So do I and Rod Stewart, but none of us were/are
Nazis. Although to the Left, I probably am a Nazi. Because I'm a Reich
winger, even though the Nazis were socialist. (Nobody can ever accuse
the Left of knowing actual, honest-to-God, History.)

Posted by: RickZ at January 28, 2016 01:24 AM (Ix+HS)



Hello, I am GGE and I am a model railroader. N scale. Narrow gauge. I've even dabbled a bit in Z.


Yeah. I got it bad.

Frankly, every ballot should have a "None of these candidates" option.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2016 01:29 AM (vBeA5)


It's called the write in candidate. Here's mine: https://www.facebook.com/PresidentNotTheBossOfYou/?fref=ts

Think I'm joking? If it comes down to a Bernie vs The Hair race, I'm writing Sean Sorrentino in.

Evening roonz and roonettez! (or morning rather) Howzit hanging?

Posted by: GGE Hades of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2016 01:44 AM (vbvxt)

284 How'd he do?
Posted by: Chi
------------

Well, howdy-do to you to.

With that, I am out. Re OG, I'm going with the crossed hashes theory, but not prepared to defend it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 01:45 AM (RrDm2)

285 'too', dammit. Perfectly good punch line f'd up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 01:45 AM (RrDm2)

286 Can you shoot me an email? I'm lost on this Brown Trout crap.

It's the poster generally known as OG Celtic American.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at January 28, 2016 01:34 AM

I've never had a problem w/ him. Is he a doc that just took it personally? That really doesn't seem like what this place is about.

Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2016 01:47 AM (o/90i)

287 GGE - Keeping the lights on?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 01:47 AM (RrDm2)

288 So, either Hammer went to bed, or he didn't take the bait...
(#267)


Remember that dilemma I had about taking in that neighbor dude?
Yeah, I've kinda 75% convinced myself to do so...

Posted by: Chi Lauren Greene at January 28, 2016 01:47 AM (2drjI)

289 Goodnight all, thanks for the fun chat tonight.

Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2016 01:47 AM (ntObR)

290 Chi - Bait taken, but fumbled.

G'night all.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 01:48 AM (RrDm2)

291 Ha!
I spoke too soon.
G'night, detective.

Posted by: Chi Lauren Greene at January 28, 2016 01:48 AM (2drjI)

292 G'night, detective.
Posted by: Chi
------------

That's 'Dick', 'Private Dick'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 01:50 AM (RrDm2)

293 277
Frankly, every ballot should have a "None of these candidates" option.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2016 01:29 AM (vBeA5)


I think "None of these" would win in a landslide.


Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 28, 2016 01:37 AM (J+mig)


Any election where "none of the above" wins should ban all listed candidates from any elected, appointed, or salaried governmental association for a minimum of 10 years.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2016 01:54 AM (EzgxV)

294 It's been fun (and weird) Morons. Time for bed here, be well all.

T

Posted by: Farmer at January 28, 2016 01:56 AM (o/90i)

295
Bander, thanks, and yes, I did soak the wood chips.

Oddly, at least a few of them burned anyway, for a short time. Raising the heat and forcing some temporary changes in the gas settings.

Only in the last year or so have I discovered what I can do with this gas grill on low-slow settings. Have just about perfected a process for baby back ribs (8 hours, homemade dry rub) that produces ribs I cannot believe.

Still plan to get a real smoker down the road, but very happy with what this gas grill can do.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 28, 2016 01:58 AM (QDnY+)

296 Love it when airliners turn around mid-flight because of mysterious illnesses onboard. Sounds like zombies to me!

Posted by: goon at January 28, 2016 01:59 AM (gy5kE)

297 >>>Chi - Bait taken, but fumbled.

G'night all.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 01:48 AM (RrDm2)<<<



That's my move. You'll be hearing from my lawyers.

Posted by: Mark Sanchez at January 28, 2016 02:00 AM (H9MG5)

298 287 GGE - Keeping the lights on?
---------------
Now see, that took a minute to sink in.

I used to have a buddy I saw at the bar every day - "hey, Mark. How's the elevator business?" Of course, the standard reply was what I wanted to hear, not how his day actually was...

I think from now on, I'll ask GGE "how's the light bulb business?" in the hopes that he has a couple snappy responses handy...
"It keeps the lights on."
"It has its bright spots."
"I'm getting burnt out on it."

Posted by: Chi Lauren Greene at January 28, 2016 02:01 AM (2drjI)

299 296
Love it when airliners turn around mid-flight because of mysterious illnesses onboard. Sounds like zombies to me!

Posted by: goon at January 28, 2016 01:59 AM (gy5kE)


Most biological agents take more than 10 hours to really sink in -- even if you were exposed in a waiting area, you could get almost anywhere on the planet before succumbing. But chemical agents can be nearly instantaneous......

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2016 02:03 AM (EzgxV)

300 I must've gotten another batch of those damned slow electrons.....

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2016 02:05 AM (EzgxV)

301 GGE - Keeping the lights on?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 28, 2016 01:47 AM (RrDm2)


Never went out.

Sorry, I was off reading the links.

Posted by: GGE Hades of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2016 02:07 AM (vbvxt)

302 ONT comment traffic is slow tonight.

Let me tell you the tale of How I learned to understand Reverse Polish Notation.

The Calculator stuff took me back to my Navy days. So I was a Nuke and the first rule of Nuke School is to never fall behind in Math. If you get behind in Math you are fucked and you will fail out. The second Rule of Nuke School is to get really comfortable with your Calculator.

Like you have to know it backwards and forwards. I had a Ti-85 Graphing Calculator when I was HS but I didn't know how to use it to it's actual ability. I mostly used it to write programs and play games on. Also cheat on tests, but they caught on pretty quick that you could do that and so they made you clear the memory. Anyways my weapon of choice for Power School was the Ti-35x (or i). I knew how to use every function on that calculator backwards and forwards. Me knowing how to use that thing was a real key (That and being a good Test Taker) to me walking through PowerSchool on Voluntary Hours (Generally, Until crunch time when People that had good grades had to Help the rest of the class. I think we called those Genius Shifts).

Anyways there is/was (I don't know now that PS is now in SC), where the Graduating class threw their calculators at the wall after Graduation Ceremony. I didn't participate in that tradition. That little calculator got me through many a test. To hell with smashing it to bits on the Rickover building. Fuck that noise, there's pool to be shot.

Skip forward 2 years to me being on an actual boat. I'm an ELT (So I'm a Nuke Mechanic that also has to do Radcon/Dosimetry/Pri-Sec Chemistry). My poor TI-35 is somewhere but who knows. The only calculator that we can manage to keep in the Lab is a calculator that expresses everything in Reverse Polish Notation (Full Disclosure, that was a setting and was a closely held secret). No one else could figure that fucking thing out meaning it never got stolen. Military is commie as fuck LOL

I keep a TI-35i in my toolbox at work. Still use it on occasion when I'm trying to math out where to cut a keyway. Although I do like doing the math in my head.


Posted by: Zakn at January 28, 2016 02:08 AM (d2pTe)

303 I wanted an HP-41 so much I could taste it, and I had a TI financial calculator that gave me two quarters of financial math on a silver platter, but the one that saved my bacon was a cheap credit-card-sized Casio calc that did stats. Ended up with the highest grade in a class of 200+ people because the little bitch did standard deviations in its pointy little head.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2016 02:13 AM (EzgxV)

304 Although I do like doing the math in my head.







Posted by: Zakn at January 28, 2016 02:08 AM (d2pTe)



Exhibit 1: Nukes are Weird
AT1(SW) GGE, Ret

Posted by: GGE Hades of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2016 02:16 AM (vbvxt)

305 Ended up with the highest grade in a class of 200+
people because the little bitch did standard deviations in its pointy
little head.


Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2016 02:13 AM (EzgxV)


Mrs Hades actually has her original degree in accounting, had a lot of problems with one of the classes (derivatives? She's not up right now so I can't ask her) and was told she would never get her degree. Stubborn as she is she stuck with it and barely passed, but it was enough. She got her masters in education and went into teaching instead.

Posted by: GGE Hades of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2016 02:18 AM (vbvxt)

306 It's absolutely backwards, and I have a feeling that the media has done this re-definition intentionally, just as they hide their Marxism under the name of liberalism.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 28, 2016 01:36 AM (J+mig)


It's another reason the networks quit flip-flopping the Blue State-Red State color code every four years at election time. Making the Dems red hit a little too close to home.

Posted by: RickZ at January 28, 2016 02:23 AM (Ix+HS)

307 Love it when airliners turn around mid-flight because of mysterious illnesses onboard. Sounds like zombies to me!

Only if the little dog is barking at the cabinet ...

Posted by: Adriane the Pop Culture Critic ... at January 28, 2016 02:23 AM (AoK0a)

308 I think a good write-in name on ballots is 'Alan Smithee'. That's the name in the movie credits for a director who didn't want his name on the finished product, i.e., the movie sucked -- just like 99.99% of our electoral 'choices'.

Posted by: RickZ at January 28, 2016 02:27 AM (Ix+HS)

309 305
Ended up with the highest grade in a class of 200+

people because the little bitch did standard deviations in its pointy

little head.




Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2016 02:13 AM (EzgxV)


Mrs
Hades actually has her original degree in accounting, had a lot of
problems with one of the classes (derivatives? She's not up right now so
I can't ask her) and was told she would never get her degree. Stubborn
as she is she stuck with it and barely passed, but it was enough. She
got her masters in education and went into teaching instead.


Posted by: GGE Hades of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2016 02:18 AM (vbvxt)


The instructor I had for my Advanced Accounting course took me aside to tell me that I wasn't suited for accounting. (A) I passed that course; (B) before I graduated at the age of 20; (C) and spent a bunch of time doing computer consulting [which pretty much didn't exist when he made his comment]; after which, (D) I forged a career from being a cast-iron-son-of-a-bitch when everyone around me was being a glad-hander like he wanted me to be.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2016 02:29 AM (EzgxV)

310 the only change is that they now support putting The Party in charge instead of a hereditary aristocracy.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 28, 2016 01:36 AM (J+mig)


I don't know about that. We have many examples of hereditary political families. A third Bush presidency in less than 30 years kind of proves my point. So do the Kennedys, the Carnahans, the Cuomos and many other political dynastic families.

Posted by: RickZ at January 28, 2016 02:30 AM (Ix+HS)

311 The voting system I would prefer would be an "instant runoff" type of thing. THere are N candidates running. You list N-1 (at most, you can do whatever you like, but if your candidates get eliminated, your vote no longer counts) in order of preference. And "none of the above" would be a valid option.

You then follow an elimination procedure, and pick the first candidate with the highest majority you can construct.

Actually, that algorithm is not so cut-and-dried. See Arrow's Impossibility Theorem.

If certain conditions are met, then it's straightfoward, but if they aren't, as Arrow shows, in some cases it is just impossible to construct the "will of the people". The individuals are so disjoint that the collective will doesn't exist. The collective becomes "irrational". And as Arrow shows, even when each individual is rational, the collective, the sum of them doesn't have to be.

What you do in that case is, well, up to you.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 28, 2016 02:31 AM (dvuhZ)

312 The good thing about this system isn't there wouldn't be many rounds of costly separate runoff elections. It would be done in one ballot, and the counting computers would run the elimination procedure based on the ballot preference order.

This would allow 3rd parties to flourish, as there would be no fear of throwing your vote away and allowing the ones you hate to win. You list your first choice, second choice, ... N-1th choice.

And that's why the current corrupt system will never entertain such a new system.

The bad thing is it might be too complicated for your average idiot voter to understand, and thus be suspicious of it.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 28, 2016 02:34 AM (dvuhZ)

313 Like you have to know it backwards and forwards. I had a Ti-85 Graphing Calculator when I was HS but I didn't know how to use it to it's actual ability. I mostly used it to write programs and play games on.

Posted by: Zakn


A former friend of mine (who is actually much older than me) was a big-time computer programmer honcho in the '90s and '00s, and he also got his start in the '70s specifically writing programs for his Texas Instruments graphing calculator (don't know which model) which he claimed was the most advanced consumer computing device on the market when he first started using it. He became such a pro at calculator programming that he didn't even make the switch over to personal computers until the end of the '80s. When he did, the skill-set he had developed put him in good stead to race to the top of the computer programming world.

Posted by: zombie at January 28, 2016 02:45 AM (jBuUi)

314 I don't know about that. We have many examples of hereditary political families. A third Bush presidency in less than 30 years kind of proves my point. So do the Kennedys, the Carnahans, the Cuomos and many other political dynastic families.

Nancy Pelosi - daughter ...
the Roosevelts ...

Posted by: Adriane the Pop Culture Critic ... at January 28, 2016 02:50 AM (AoK0a)

315 311 The voting system I would prefer would be an "instant runoff" type of thing. THere are N candidates running. You list N-1 (at most, you can do whatever you like, but if your candidates get eliminated, your vote no longer counts) in order of preference. And "none of the above" would be a valid option.

You then follow an elimination procedure, and pick the first candidate with the highest majority you can construct.

Actually, that algorithm is not so cut-and-dried. See Arrow's Impossibility Theorem.

If certain conditions are met, then it's straightfoward, but if they aren't, as Arrow shows, in some cases it is just impossible to construct the "will of the people". The individuals are so disjoint that the collective will doesn't exist. The collective becomes "irrational". And as Arrow shows, even when each individual is rational, the collective, the sum of them doesn't have to be.

What you do in that case is, well, up to you.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius


"Instant runoff" election systems have a major flaw that was exposed by the Oakland mayoral election about 5 years ago.

Oakland instituted Instant Runoff the year before the election, but then about 18 people ended up running for mayor. Two candidates "joined forces" and convinced their supporters to list the other candidate as their "choice #2" on the ballot.

When the results came in, no one had a majority - in fact, if I remember correctly, one guy had about 35%, but no one else was even over 25% of the vote, since it was split 18 ways. The two candidates, Jean Quan and Rebecca Kaplan (both of whom were somewhat to the left of Trotsky) were way back in the pack, but as the bean-counters started the "disqualify the lowest vote getter, and then assign their votes to the #2 choice on each ballot" technique, Quan and Kaplan started to slowly rise in totals. I think it took and incredible nine rounds of disqualifications and recounts before they emerged as the clear leaders over 25%, and finally on the tenth round Kaplan was disqualified and Quan got basically all her votes and leapt over 50% and was declared the winner. The guy who was way out in front on election night thereby lost to someone who finished way, way behind him.

Basically, Kaplan and Quan pulled a "Survivor"-style secret coalition, and parlayed it into victory, despite being strongly disliked by a super-majority of voters.

Ever since then, people 'round these parts have soured on instant runoffs. (Quan ended up being one of the worst mayors in history, needless to say.)

Posted by: zombie at January 28, 2016 02:59 AM (jBuUi)

316 315: If that method chose the Condorcet winner, then it was "correct", according to the voting preferences. Note if a candidate gets 49.9% of the vote over 10 others with 5% each, that still means 50.1% of the voters prefer someone other than the first guy.

And the preferences rank of all those who voted are properly tabulated, then that 50.1% eventually prefer someone other than the 49.9% guy.

That's the problem with plurality systems. Just becase the majority is divided, it doesn't mean the guy with the most votes is preferred.

If there was a Condorcet winner in that election, then system "worked". If there wasn't, then it was one of those problem situations.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 28, 2016 03:06 AM (dvuhZ)

317 Condorcet winner = candidate who wins all possible pairwise elections.

Ie, A, B, and C. If A > B and A> C, then A is the Condorcet winner. That could be the case even if B had 49.9999999% of the vote.

And likewise one can construct a scenario where there are 20 candidates, one gets 49.999999% of the vote, yet one of the others, who in the original round got very little is nonetheless the Condorcet winner, and would beat all others in every possible pairing.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 28, 2016 03:10 AM (dvuhZ)

318 in fact, if I remember correctly, one guy had about 35%, but no one else was even over 25% of the vote


and since that guy had the majority he should have won.

Posted by: GGE Hades of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2016 03:13 AM (vbvxt)

319 Ie, A, B, and C. If A > B and A> C, then A is the Condorcet
winner. That could be the case even if B had 49.9999999% of the vote.


And likewise one can construct a scenario where there are 20
candidates, one gets 49.999999% of the vote, yet one of the others, who
in the original round got very little is nonetheless the Condorcet
winner, and would beat all others in every possible pairing.



The only way this works is if A gets 50.0000001 percent of the vote and C gets nothing, otherwise B < A and even if A < C, B is also < C and is the winner (unless A gets 50 percent and C gets 0.0000001 percent, in which case A is still the winner).

Posted by: GGE Hades of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2016 03:17 AM (vbvxt)

320 35% isn't a majority. It means 65% prefer someone else. Just because that 65% is divided, it still means a near 2.3 majority don't want the 35%. He would have a plurality, but not a majority.

Consider a 3-way election, Hillary, Cruz, and Trump (one of the latter went 3rd party).

Hillary gets 40% of the vote, Trump gets 31% and Cruz gets 29%.

Now Trump and Cruz voters hate Hillary. Would you say Hillary should win.That's the way the current plurality system works. But a proper Condorcet method would pick either Trump or Cruz, depending on who Hillary voters second choices were.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 28, 2016 03:21 AM (dvuhZ)

321 319: A gets 25.1% of the vote, B gets 49.9% of the vote, and C gets 25.0% of the vote.

All C voter's second choice is A. Thus A gets 50.1% of the vote in a pairing with B. Likewise, all of A voters' second choice is C. C gets 50.1% of the vote in a pairing with B. B loses pair elections to both C and A. Now, the A over C vote depends on who B voters prefer second choice.

If more than 24.9% of B voters prefer A over C as second choice, A wins. Otherwise C wins.

The system chooses A or C accordingly. That is the one who wins all possible pairwise elections.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 28, 2016 03:26 AM (dvuhZ)

322 Consider a 3-way election, Hillary, Cruz, and Trump (one of the latter went 3rd party).

Hillary gets 40% of the vote, Trump gets 31% and Cruz gets 29%.

Now Trump and Cruz voters hate Hillary. Would you say Hillary should win.That's the way the current plurality system works. But a proper Condorcet method would pick either Trump or Cruz, depending on who Hillary voters second choices were.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)


If the US federal government actually ran elections that way, we'd have major public uprisings overthrowing the government every few years. People would feel that the other side won unfairly, i.e. cheated.

There was a LOT of upset in Oakland when this happened, but because every single person involved was a Democrat, eventually people just shrugged and let it go, because in truth there wasn't that much to distinguish the candidates policy-wise -- it was only which clique of nepotistic minions would most benefit from the crony handouts from this or that candidate.

However, if it has been a real right-wong/left-wing conflict, there would have been armed battles in the streets if, say, a leftist won 48% of the vote but eventually under the ranked-choice system lost to a right-winger who on election night only had 20% of the vote but who in the "instant runoff" picked up the conservative votes of three lesser candidates, and topped out over 50%.

I imagine we'd have a revolution on our hands.

And then imagine the reverse and watch the steam come out of your ears.

I dunno, I just don't think it would be feasible on a national level, especially with such a bitterly divided electorate.

In local elections, where candidates are often rather similar politically but instead running on "personality" or "character" issues, ranked-choce might work. Nationwide? Nah.

Posted by: zombie at January 28, 2016 03:30 AM (jBuUi)

323 322: You're probably right, because people wouldn't understand the system. Oh, I'd be mad if my guy got a plurality, but I'd understand a majority actually preferred someone else, someone else who won all pairwise elections.

The problem is when there is no such Condorcet winner. The election is "cyclical" as the call it. What you do then is a mess. No system can be "fair" in all such cases, because in those cases the collective isn't "rational" even if every individual voter is rational.

There is no "majority" preference. One cannot be constructed and only artificially.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 28, 2016 03:34 AM (dvuhZ)

324 321 319: A gets 25.1% of the vote, B gets 49.9% of the vote, and C gets 25.0% of the vote.

All C voter's second choice is A. Thus A gets 50.1% of the vote in a pairing with B. Likewise, all of A voters' second choice is C. C gets 50.1% of the vote in a pairing with B. B loses pair elections to both C and A. Now, the A over C vote depends on who B voters prefer second choice.

If more than 24.9% of B voters prefer A over C as second choice, A wins. Otherwise C wins.

The system chooses A or C accordingly. That is the one who wins all possible pairwise elections.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)


Even my head hurts after reading that, and I'm supposed to be a political junkie. Imagine the consternation and confusion and anger of the typical LIV who can't add two plus two.

Posted by: zombie at January 28, 2016 03:35 AM (jBuUi)

325 324: The way I'd publish the results is a list of the winners of all possible pairwise elections.

Again, Hillary 40%, Trump 31%, and Cruz 29%.

Trumps second choice is Cruz and Cruz second choice is Trump.

Hillary thus has this (Trump 60%, Hillary 40%) Trump wins in a landslide. Now, Cruz has 60%, Hilllary 40%. Cruz wins in a landslide against Hillary alone.

Now, we put Trump against Truz, using the second choices of Hillary. Whoever wins that is the winner. Say it was Cruz, 55%, Trump 45%.

Cruz wins the election, as he is the one candidate who wins against all the others alone.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 28, 2016 03:39 AM (dvuhZ)

326 Iran is a problem. We should treat it as a problem. First candidate that addresses the problem directly, threatening the use of force to keep them in the 7th century if they don't play nice, gets my vote. And by the way, F*'em, they do hate our dumb asses and John Kerry too.

Posted by: goon at January 28, 2016 03:42 AM (gy5kE)

327 Here is the real best voting system.

http://www.universalworkshop.com/ARVOfull.htm


Simply put, you can cast one vote for every candidate who is running. This allows you to vote for your first and second choice. If you vote for everybody, your votes cancel each other out and it's exactly the same as not voting. But it also eliminates the idea that you shouldn't vote for a candidate who has no chance of winning. This system shows the true strength of each candidate. And it's simple; it doesn't rely on complicated formulas for ranking preferences.

Posted by: rickl at January 28, 2016 04:01 AM (sdi6R)

328 He who votes is powerless.

He who counts the votes is not ...

Posted by: Adriane the Pop Culture Critic ... at January 28, 2016 04:22 AM (AoK0a)

329 Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2016 02:29 AM (EzgxV)

*****

*Snicker*

Posted by: Tim in GA at January 28, 2016 04:25 AM (YLidQ)

330 In the 2014 MS R primary, Chris McDaniel received 1% more votes than ole Thad Cochran, but a third party candidate pulled 1% also, keeping Chris just under 50%. And so there was a runoff. Thad's band of clowns ran ads looking for Dem voters that didn't vote in their primary, warning that Chris was gonna take away their welfare if they didn't vote for Thad.

And it worked; he beat Chris in the runoff by 8,000 votes out of about 500k. Claims of bought votes and irregularities in Dem counties were never investigated. Thad, true to his word (and voting history), has voted like a Dem before AND since.

Le sigh. No voting system could fix this.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 28, 2016 05:01 AM (gyKtp)

331 On Tuesday I got a call from the local Trump campaign office. They had seen where I had offered to volunteer, and were calling me on it. I agreed, gladly, and went in yesterday at noon to meet and greet. I was given the run down, and about fifty high quality yard signs, a couple a hundred Trump bumper stickers, some lapel stickers, flyers, etc., and was going to go disperse those to the minions when at the last minute, because, short handed for the day, they asked me to stay and be the receptionist/greeter/phone answerer... I wasn't planning on it, but said, ok, fine, and stayed there until about 1730. It was great fun to meet the diversity of people coming in off the street, including four different groups of two or more from Texas, in town for various reasons. The Upstate of South Carolina has a strong Trump presence and base of support. Anyway, enjoyed myself, felt I'd helped some, so I'm going back today for another five or six hours...if it looks like I'm doing some good, I may make that a regular habit...at least until after the primaries... Anybody want a T-shirt!? :

Posted by: Bitter Jamie Farr (clinger, get it!?) at January 28, 2016 05:13 AM (IrsUV)

332 Anybody want a T-shirt!? :
Posted by: Bitter Jamie Farr (clinger,


We'd be happy for a fucking paragraph break.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 28, 2016 05:19 AM (W0RfD)

333 Posted by: goon at January 28, 2016 03:42 AM (gy5kE)

Your confusing Persians for fucking Arabs. We wouldn't be having this problem if the feckless Obama would have supported the near revolution a few years back. But I agree with you, the inbred mullahs in Tehran need to be dealt with swiftly and extremely heavy handedly.

Posted by: Arson Wells at January 28, 2016 05:19 AM (UnJ7w)

334 Uhhh... Ok, sorry

Didn't mean to offend

Moar coffee

Posted by: Bitter Jamie Farr (clinger, get it!?) at January 28, 2016 05:20 AM (IrsUV)

335 Didn't mean to offend

Posted by: Bitter Jamie Farr (clinger, get it!?) at January 28, 2016 05:20 AM (IrsUV)


Don't worry about it. Day walkers are different than the night crawlers -- and more easily offended.

Posted by: RickZ at January 28, 2016 05:25 AM (Ix+HS)

336 Don't worry about it. Day walkers are different than the night crawlers -- and more easily offended.


TY! I'm a good guy, really. Turning my life around. Want to start community kollege and get me some ejumacation and stuff...

Posted by: Bitter Jamie Farr (clinger, get it!?) at January 28, 2016 05:29 AM (IrsUV)

337 But it was funny as shit, Rick. You gotta admit that.

Posted by: Chi Lauren Greene at January 28, 2016 05:30 AM (2drjI)

338 But it was funny as shit, Rick. You gotta admit that.

Posted by: Chi Lauren Greene at January 28, 2016 05:30 AM (2drjI)


Actually, shit isn't funny (especially if you've ever changed a diaper), and neither was that post. Sounds just like the meathead who went after 'Farmer' earlier in the thread.

The circular firing squads that take place here of late are . . . troublesome. It's why I stick to the ONT and VNN on the early morning thread. The rest of the day I mostly just read the content, or lack thereof, and skip the comments.

Posted by: RickZ at January 28, 2016 05:41 AM (Ix+HS)

339 Meh.
I took it as a joke. BC & weft have both been around a long time. I kind of assumed they're friendly.
And I still think it was funny.

But, the raging at Farmer/T was uncalled for. He's really good people.

Posted by: Chi Lauren Greene at January 28, 2016 05:45 AM (2drjI)

340 Great stuff as always Maet
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at January 28, 2016 05:56 AM (hk3Fb)

341 Chi

For what it's worth, and it may not be much, I have been lurking here for over a year, and only seldom commenting because I enjoy reading what you nice folks have to say.

I had no expectation that I would be rebuked for not putting in paragraph breaks, and it kinda came at me from left field, I thought.

If folks want to shout down friendly comments like mine, I will just remain in the shadows, I suppose...

Posted by: Bitter Jamie Farr (clinger, get it!?) at January 28, 2016 05:58 AM (IrsUV)

342 *wanders in*

Ohayo minna. Anymore jaw droppingly outrageous and funny comments? Or would that be furry comments? Ne Uni-chan what is it?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 28, 2016 05:59 AM (hmbKk)

343 Bitter, don't go anywhere. Youre fine, friend.
Seriously, some folks get worked up over the smallest thing - don't let it get to you. Ignore them. I thought it was just a snarky joke (I could be totally wrong, of course).

So, you're not the same poster as Bitter Clinger? I just assumed...

Posted by: Chi Lauren Greene at January 28, 2016 06:02 AM (2drjI)

344 Mornin'.

We're seeing a perfect, specimen-quality example of MFM narrative-as-news duplicity today.

Why oh why would the MFM pick today, of all days, to run with attack stories on the Wounded Warriors Project? Whatever could the reason be?

Look, a lot of charities wantonly waste or steal contributions. And TWWP may be one of them. If so, shame on them.

But that's not the story. That's not WHY the MFM is running with the story. Today. The MFM couldn't care less about alleged fraud and waste at this particular charity, or they would have hopped on the story at some point before today. Today, which seems to have SOME particular importance to the MFM.

Look, I'm just a bitter clinger in flyover country, but it almost seems, to my unedumocated brain, as if the MFM has some sort of agenda here.


Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 28, 2016 06:03 AM (HMt16)

345 If folks want to shout down friendly comments like mine, I will just remain in the shadows, I suppose...

Posted by: Bitter Jamie Farr (clinger, get it!?) at January 28, 2016 05:58 AM (IrsUV)


Do not run away. I liked the comment, no paragraph breaks and all. What you posted is your experience. You actually did something other than shouting on a keyboard. More than me, anyway.

Posted by: RickZ at January 28, 2016 06:03 AM (Ix+HS)

346 'Morning, Anna.

Posted by: Chi Lauren Greene at January 28, 2016 06:03 AM (2drjI)

347 Ne Uni-chan what is it?

What it is is what it was Anna, taking a break from the great tome?

Posted by: Panhandler at January 28, 2016 06:04 AM (ILwW3)

348 Not everyone is a English commentary critic, heaven knows do my fair share of mistakes but haven't been harassed.

Posted by: Skip at January 28, 2016 06:05 AM (hk3Fb)

349 tl;dr

Posted by: zzzzzzzzzzzzzz at January 28, 2016 06:06 AM (QijZ7)

350 Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 28, 2016 06:03 AM (HMt16)

I've heard bad things about TWWP for a while now.

Of course, our duplicitous kneepad wearing media don't have the same 'investigation' for 'charities' like the American Red Cross. And, of course, they'll never praise a true charity like The Salvation Army because of the words 'salvation' and 'army' in their name, the pajama boys and girls that they are.

Posted by: RickZ at January 28, 2016 06:07 AM (Ix+HS)

351 *serves rice balls*

It goes. Got about 600 words written last night. Not great but started story again. Figure got nothing to lose to pitch manuscript to Angry Robot. But got to turn it in by Jan 31st. Plus write cover letter and synopsis.

Challenge ne?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 28, 2016 06:09 AM (hmbKk)

352 Not everyone is a English commentary critic, heaven knows do my fair share of mistakes but haven't been harassed.

Posted by: Skip at January 28, 2016 06:05 AM (hk3Fb)


Yep. He who is without keystroke error can be the first to criticize. That pretty much leaves out The Horde.

Posted by: RickZ at January 28, 2016 06:11 AM (Ix+HS)

353 Dyslexia of the keyboard is terminal

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 28, 2016 06:11 AM (hmbKk)

354 Challenge ne?

I get the feeling that the emerald eyed feline is going to be looking a little bedraggled in the next few days.

Posted by: Panhandler at January 28, 2016 06:12 AM (ILwW3)

355 Posted by: RickZ at January 28, 2016 06:07 AM (Ix+HS)

Exactly. If TWWP is corrupt, they should be exposed and shamed.

But it's obvious why the MFM is Suddenly Concerned and Outrageously Outraged on this particular day.

When I woke up, turned the 'puter on and scanned the early headlines, I almost knew what I was going to see before I saw it. They are nothing if not predictable.

Straight out of MSNBC's long-time playbook. It's the MSNBC-ization of the so-called mainstream media.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 28, 2016 06:12 AM (HMt16)

356 Posted by: Bitter Jamie Farr (clinger, get it!?) at January 28, 2016 05:13 AM (IrsUV)

Interesting that they responded at all. I had the opposite experience with the Romney campaign in the general election in 2012.

Of the people you met, would you characterize them as being new to political activism?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 28, 2016 06:15 AM (Zu3d9)

357 FWIW, I read the response to Bitter JF as a joke. I take stuff like that as common wise-assery from a buddy. With comments like that, I guess it all depends on how you "read it" in your head.

I choose to read that kind of stuff in a "just fking with ya" voice. Maybe I'm na´ve about it, but it keeps my blood pressure down.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 28, 2016 06:15 AM (HMt16)

358 I will say, without fear of retribution (I hope!) that you folks are the finest anywhere. I respect you all, and appreciate that I can in some way, occasionally contribute, and always enjoy, your comments. Thanks Horde! I won't be going anywhere,

That. Is. A. Fact.

Posted by: Bitter Jamie Farr (clinger, get it!?) at January 28, 2016 06:16 AM (IrsUV)

359 *flicks ears and grins*

Already written 33,000+ words this month on story.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 28, 2016 06:16 AM (hmbKk)

360 Posted by: Bitter Jamie Farr (clinger, get it!?) at January 28, 2016 06:16 AM (IrsUV)

Well.....you look fabulous in that dress!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 28, 2016 06:20 AM (Zu3d9)

361 MASH jumped the shark when Klinger stopped wearing dresses.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 28, 2016 06:21 AM (HMt16)

362 356 Posted by: Bitter Jamie Farr (clinger, get it!?) at January 28, 2016 05:13 AM (IrsUV)

Interesting that they responded at all. I had the opposite experience with the Romney campaign in the general election in 2012.

Of the people you met, would you characterize them as being new to political activism?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 28, 2016 06:15 AM (Zu3d9)



I would say about half of them, at least claimed, to have never voted at all! I was taken back by this. Of the others, most were in fact new to politics in general, I don't think I met a single person who was a seasoned voter, with the possible exception of some of the other volunteers. It was...interesting!

Posted by: Bitter Jamie Farr (clinger, get it!?) at January 28, 2016 06:21 AM (IrsUV)

363 Corgis

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 28, 2016 06:26 AM (hmbKk)

364 I always found it interesting that they chose to use the title "Section 8" for the free housing vouchers.
Because, if you've ever rented to (or even met) anyone using Sec. 8, you know that they're crazier than Klinger was on his worst day. But they DO know how to work the system...

Posted by: Chi Lauren Greene at January 28, 2016 06:27 AM (2drjI)

365 Been working my way through Bowie's post-80s output since his death. Always been a big fan of his 70s-80s stuff but I had kind of lost track of him after that, aside from a track here or there.

My favorite so far is 1993's The Buddha of Suburbia. A bit of an outlier since it was mis-titled - and mis-marketed- as a soundtrack album. In reality, only the title track was from a soundtrack. By that criteria, Let's Dance was a "soundtrack" since it has "Cat People" on it.

At any rate, The Buddha of Suburbia is sort of a blending of his mid-70s soul phase, the heavily instrumental Berlin phase, and a dash of Scary Monsters' twisted art-rock. But for all the trolling of his own past, it was quite modern sounding.

Not for everyone, as it would appeal mostly to fans of Low-era Bowie. Here's a cool, sort of ambient-jazz instrumental from it. Mood music for an early morn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPHO1v_ow5E

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 28, 2016 06:30 AM (HMt16)

366 #364
My brother is a disabled vet
He is on section 8 he was wounded fighting for you

Posted by: Bubba at January 28, 2016 08:40 AM (yTPDN)

367 Time to hit ol Trevor Phillips with a clue bat. If they are never going to change, why let them in? It's a nice society we have here--adapted to our needs and wants--so it would be too bad if someone who couldn't adapt came in and wrecked the joint. Wake up and smell the coffee you effin' twit!

Posted by: Comanche Voter at January 28, 2016 10:54 AM (Sda6L)

368 1) In the shoothouse video, anyone know why he closes the dust cover on the chamber of his AR after shooting the guy through the window? Is that normal practice? I've never seen or heard of it before.

2) I still have my HP 41CV engineering calculator from college. It is pretty slick and I still love RPN. So much faster to do long calculations, even compared to my TI-84 and TI-89 with the graphing screens.

Posted by: Heresolong at January 28, 2016 08:44 PM (ntIeo)

369 How the hell do you screw up French fries?


It happens when you start with a potato.

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