Morning Thread (1-20-2016)

Later-than-usual morning thread. I blame the central time zone.

Posted by: Andy at 07:36 AM




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ONE


YEAR


LEFT


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 07:37 AM (zLP1L)

2 What ho!

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 20, 2016 07:37 AM (ZPz7d)

3

DAY 1,170

293 to go (366 to Inauguration Day )

Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, Mao-suits, McCain's, McConnell's, Mahdi megatons, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, McKesson's, Mizzou malefactors, mewling mattress-myth manufacturers, marriage maimers, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Myrmidons, Mugwumps, Monrovian microbes, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microaggressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 07:37 AM (zLP1L)

4 yaaaay

Posted by: Satan up late and sober at January 20, 2016 07:37 AM (MaaAj)

5 Good morning.

Posted by: Tyler Mason at January 20, 2016 07:37 AM (VFBs7)

6

Posted by: Kerry Lawson at January 20, 2016 07:37 AM (8n+U+)

7
One year and about 4.5 hours.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 07:38 AM (zLP1L)

8 Bah. I keep forgetting about using left and right characters on this primitive comment system.

Posted by: Kerry Lawson at January 20, 2016 07:38 AM (8n+U+)

9 Finally...content!

Thanks Andy.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2016 07:38 AM (ptqRm)

10 I don't care how messy it is. One piece.

Posted by: Sheryl Crowe at January 20, 2016 07:39 AM (KxC9p)

11 10 I don't care how messy it is. One piece.
Posted by: Sheryl Crowe at January 20, 2016 07:39 AM (KxC9p)


Hence, the bidet. Bidet!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 07:39 AM (zLP1L)

12 G'mornin Horde !

A balmy 10 degrees out there, got around a half inch of fresh snow.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 20, 2016 07:40 AM (Z8DIA)

13 mornin'
finally out of the sub-zero temps today

Posted by: wing at January 20, 2016 07:40 AM (Ohl7S)

14 Free at last! Free at last!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 20, 2016 07:41 AM (/ciMI)

15 "I blame the central time zone."



What did I ever do to you....?

Posted by: CST at January 20, 2016 07:41 AM (oS52a)

16 One year and about 4.5 hours.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 07:38 AM


Which is gonna seem like a long, long, looooong time.

Wonder how many decades it will take to repair the damage Choom Boy can do in just this final year?

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 20, 2016 07:42 AM (ZPz7d)

17 morning everyone..

Posted by: Yip at January 20, 2016 07:42 AM (e7T6D)

18 Central Time aka Flyover Country. More New York Values?

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at January 20, 2016 07:42 AM (sOhww)

19 One year left? One year left!! Yay. It's 4:40 am in crazy Cali; having coffee and off to the gym.

Posted by: IC at January 20, 2016 07:42 AM (+3RH+)

20 Hump day?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 20, 2016 07:43 AM (/ciMI)

21 @16... Well since we've still not recovered since Wilson... I'm gonna guess... many generations and maybe a siege or three.

Posted by: Yip at January 20, 2016 07:43 AM (e7T6D)

22 ONIONVISION BOUGHT THE UNION???

Posted by: Al Sharpton at January 20, 2016 07:43 AM (KxC9p)

23 16 One year and about 4.5 hours.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 07:38 AM

Which is gonna seem like a long, long, looooong time.

Wonder how many decades it will take to repair the damage Choom Boy can do in just this final year?
Posted by: MrScribbler at January 20, 2016 07:42 AM (ZPz7d)


If what's left right now is rubble, he'll make it bounce about a mile high.

And the one thing no one is talking about (or few) is that we are one SCOTUS appointment away from losing everything. No matter who wins the White House.

Knife edge, we be on.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 07:43 AM (zLP1L)

24 Mentioned at bottom of ONT two interesting items.

Sarah Palin's son in trouble with the law on Monday. Drinking, domestic violence, etc. On Tuesday SP endorses DT, life goes on, etc.

In head to head matchup Cruz whips DT. If only we could get the others to drop out.

Posted by: ugg boots at January 20, 2016 07:44 AM (fbovC)

25 One year for what, J.J.?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 20, 2016 07:44 AM (oS52a)

26 25 One year for what, J.J.?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 20, 2016 07:44 AM (oS52a)


Until I give birth to a chest burster . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 07:44 AM (zLP1L)

27 ONIONVISION BOUGHT THE UNION???
Posted by: Al Sharpton

No. That was us.

-Special Interests

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 20, 2016 07:45 AM (/ciMI)

28 Good Morning all.
I have wall to wall Geico ads.

Posted by: GT 5.0 at January 20, 2016 07:45 AM (E7F+3)

29 Something going wrong with site, gents. I am getting an (empty) pop-up dialogue box. On Safari, FYI.

Posted by: some asshole at January 20, 2016 07:45 AM (l9C+f)

30 11 hour drive ahead.....good ole fashioned family reunion around a casket.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 20, 2016 07:45 AM (0O7c5)

31 Oh, wait, I get it now.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 20, 2016 07:46 AM (oS52a)

32 25 One year for what, J.J.?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 20, 2016 07:44 AM (oS52a)


In case you are not being sarcastical, what happens on January 20th at noon in the Oval Office every 4 years?

Hint: It's not a blow job. Then again. . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 07:46 AM (zLP1L)

33 The fvcking hysterics over a bit of a snowstorm coming to the Northeast is getting ridiculous.

My area may get a foot of snow. That's 12". Maybe I am wrong, but I recall a few instances of that much snow during my lifetime, and we seemed to handle it well.

The editorializing on the part of the weathermen is unseemly. Shut up, describe the most likely path of the storm, and have a crying jag in your dressing room, but not in public.

"Do you think I can listen all day to such stuff?
Be off, or I'll kick you down stairs!"

-- Lewis Carroll

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 20, 2016 07:46 AM (Zu3d9)

34 Sorry, pg. Where going?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 20, 2016 07:47 AM (oS52a)

35 Following much thought and several debates, I'm down with Hillary!

Posted by: Huma at January 20, 2016 07:47 AM (sOhww)

36 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 07:46 AM (zLP1L)

A US marshal arresting the former president on charges of treason?

[a fella can dream....]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 20, 2016 07:47 AM (Zu3d9)

37 But think of the children, CBD!

You know, the ones who will enjoy playing in a foot of fresh snow. Can't have that!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 20, 2016 07:48 AM (/ciMI)

38 I share my birthday with Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
2009 sucked.
2013 was worse.
2017 may end the hell.
Or Trump.

http://tinyurl.com/jmz8fnc

Posted by: Spellcheck at January 20, 2016 07:48 AM (j+aWk)

39 36 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 07:46 AM (zLP1L)

A US marshal arresting the former president on charges of treason?

[a fella can dream....]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 20, 2016 07:47 AM (Zu3d9)


**singing**

"Wouldn't that be love-leee!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 07:49 AM (zLP1L)

40 The fvcking hysterics over a bit of a snowstorm coming to the Northeast is getting ridiculous.

My area may get a foot of snow. That's 12". Maybe I am wrong, but I recall a few instances of that much snow during my lifetime, and we seemed to handle it well.

The editorializing on the part of the weathermen is unseemly. Shut up, describe the most likely path of the storm, and have a crying jag in your dressing room, but not in public.

"Do you think I can listen all day to such stuff?
Be off, or I'll kick you down stairs!"

-- Lewis Carroll
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 20, 2016 07:46 AM (Zu3d9)

Yeah it's funny. BUT I am gong to West Point to stock up today. Wanna go for a ride?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2016 07:49 AM (DUoqb)

41 "ONIONVISION BOUGHT THE UNION???


Are they changing their name to "Onionvision"?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and Unimproved. at January 20, 2016 07:49 AM (WVsWD)

42 21 @16... Well since we've still not recovered since Wilson... Lincoln, I'm gonna guess... many generations and maybe a siege or three.
Posted by: Yip



Fixed for accuracy.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 20, 2016 07:49 AM (ct0K5)

43 38 2017 may end the hell.
Or Trump.

http://tinyurl.com/jmz8fnc
Posted by: Spellcheck at January 20, 2016 07:48 AM (j+aWk)


Be careful for what you wish for.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 07:49 AM (zLP1L)

44 Futures for the Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 313 points, or 2%, to 15,600, while those for the SP 500 index dropped 34.90 points, or 1.9%, to 1,838





First the market then the economy will come crashing down. And only more socialism will save us comrades.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 20, 2016 07:49 AM (45oDG)

45 Morning horde. Moar coffee. That. Is. All.

Posted by: small town girl at January 20, 2016 07:49 AM (Gjw1J)

46 Futures for the Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 313 points, or 2%, to 15,600, while those for the SP 500 index dropped 34.90 points, or 1.9%, to 1,838





First the market then the economy will come crashing down. And only more socialism will save us comrades.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 20, 2016 07:49 AM (45oDG)

Nah, the Feds will jump in and drop rates by 1/4 point and we will all be saved

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2016 07:51 AM (DUoqb)

47 A US marshal arresting the former president on charges of treason? [a fella can dream....] Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 20, 2016 07:47 AM

Prolly more realistic to dream about copping a YUUUUUGE Powerball jackpot, CBD.

Choom Boy be laffin' all the way to the bank....

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 20, 2016 07:51 AM (ZPz7d)

48 In case you are not being sarcastical, what happens on January 20th at noon in the Oval Office every 4 years?

Hint: It's not a blow job.



Crap. There goes my answer.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 20, 2016 07:51 AM (ct0K5)

49 My area may get a foot of snow. That's 12". Maybe I am wrong, but I recall a few instances of that much snow during my lifetime, and we seemed to handle it well.


Over the river in Pennsylvania, I recall a couple of two foot snowfalls. One late spring, In which the snow all but disappeared by the afternoon. Another storm the governor closed the roads. By the next day everything was fine.

It does look like a long one, though. Starting late Friday night, all day Saturday, ending Sunday morning.

Posted by: ugg boots at January 20, 2016 07:51 AM (fbovC)

50 I share my birthday with Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Hey, my birthday too.

Posted by: Japanese-Nigerian Amputee Screen Actors Guild at January 20, 2016 07:53 AM (oVJmc)

51 Two feet of snow dropped overnight in 1992 (on top of what was already there), and we still had to go to school. Best recess ever.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 20, 2016 07:53 AM (/ciMI)

52 I sock, therefore I am.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 20, 2016 07:54 AM (oVJmc)

53 It does look like a long one, though. Starting late Friday night, all day Saturday, ending Sunday morning.
Posted by: ugg boots at January 20, 2016 07:51 AM (fbovC)

My CO and the Master Chief of our Unit is flying in and we are all suppose to do a Site Visit at one of our Units here in NYC this weekend. LOL I don't think so...

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2016 07:54 AM (DUoqb)

54 @42 rickb223... heh... point taken. As I typed Wilson I even thought of that too.

Posted by: Yip at January 20, 2016 07:55 AM (e7T6D)

55 We'll be paying for The Won for the next century.

At least.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at January 20, 2016 07:55 AM (bpn7O)

56 Ugh, Facebook this morning, hating on Palin.......I have to stop using that crap.

Posted by: Flyover at January 20, 2016 07:56 AM (Tv8Oe)

57 "First the market then the economy will come crashing down. And only more socialism will save us comrades. "


Only a few more 5-digit oilfield layoffs to go.....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 20, 2016 07:56 AM (oS52a)

58 Ugh, Facebook this morning, hating on Palin.......I have to stop using that crap.
Posted by: Flyover at January 20, 2016 07:56 AM (Tv8Oe)

hey there was a hate feast here all day yesterday on palin also.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2016 07:57 AM (DUoqb)

59 56 Ugh, Facebook this morning, hating on Palin.......I have to stop using that crap.
Posted by: Flyover at January 20, 2016 07:56 AM (Tv8Oe)


Puzzled by Palin's endorsement but that said, Fascist Buch is a complete sewer. Check that; it actually is a very good barometer for divinating exactly how insane your friends and relatives are.

Total waste of time and actually deleterious to one's health.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 07:58 AM (zLP1L)

60 Yeah, I'm not really a fan of Palin but the Facebook snowflakes are especially annoying.

Posted by: Flyover at January 20, 2016 07:59 AM (SVz6E)

61 I assume the weather channel will give this winter storm a name.....I cut the cord, so I can't watch the drama of the weather news. The local weather man just said hey, its just a typical winter storm!

Posted by: Colin at January 20, 2016 08:01 AM (InayV)

62 Putin offers European Jews refuge in Russia

Europes beleaguered Jews should come to us, Russian leader tells European Jewish Congress in the Kremlin.

The World has turned upside down: Putin is the hope for European Jews and The White House is a mortal enemy of Israel and Jews? WTF

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2016 08:01 AM (DUoqb)

63 The Governor of Georgia has declared a state of emergency over the possibility of inclement weather.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at January 20, 2016 08:02 AM (bpn7O)

64 Snow on the ground, here. Ecch.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 20, 2016 08:02 AM (B8JRQ)

65 Still trying to book some flights for travel this summer and prices are not dropping like they usually do with drop in price of oil. WTF? I demand the govt. do something to make the prices more fair (as defined by me).

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 20, 2016 08:03 AM (1BQGO)

66 Ugh, Facebook this morning, hating on Palin.......I have to stop using that crap.
Posted by: Flyover


I don't see any benefit to Donald Trump of stirring that hornets nest again. Plus, her kids. How do you keep them off the front page all the time?

Posted by: ugg boots at January 20, 2016 08:03 AM (fbovC)

67 Ugh, Facebook this morning, hating on Palin.......I have to stop using that crap.

Facebook, what is that? some sort of blog?

Posted by: Colin at January 20, 2016 08:03 AM (InayV)

68 UK taxpayers funding torture in Palestine

British site reveals government under fire for giving mass sums to BTselem, after latter revealed to be aiding in PA executions.

But hey let's ban Trump from the UK?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2016 08:03 AM (DUoqb)

69 " I assume the weather channel will give this winter storm a name."



Bud? Charlie? Festus? Those would be good names.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 20, 2016 08:03 AM (oS52a)

70 hey there was a hate feast here all day yesterday on palin also.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2016 07:57 AM


Which seems strange to me, since the HQ in '08 -- and thereafter -- was all "Mama Grizzly!!11!! SarahCuda!!eleventy!" and anyone who wasn't a fan (which I admit I wasn't, and am still not) was roundly excoriated.

The level and tone of the yowling about Palin since yesterday is truly worthy of hardcore Democrats.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 20, 2016 08:04 AM (ZPz7d)

71 Ugh, Facebook this morning, hating on Palin.......I have to stop using that crap.
Posted by: Flyover

DM is infested with anti-Palin hate as well.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 20, 2016 08:04 AM (fWAjv)

72 I don't begrudge Palin her endorsement. It's her revenge on an establishment that treated her like crap.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at January 20, 2016 08:05 AM (bpn7O)

73 62 Putin offers European Jews refuge in Russia

Europes beleaguered Jews should come to us, Russian leader tells European Jewish Congress in the Kremlin.

The World has turned upside down: Putin is the hope for European Jews and The White House is a mortal enemy of Israel and Jews? WTF
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2016 08:01 AM (DUoqb)


Where? Babi Yar? Sheesh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:05 AM (zLP1L)

74 Plus, her kids. How do you keep them off the front page all the time?
Posted by: ugg boots at January 20, 2016 08:03 AM (fbovC)


What do her kids have to do with it. I thought we decent republicans were against using politician's kids as props? Have the rules changed?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2016 08:05 AM (DUoqb)

75 I'm not sure how Palin will help - even in Iowa.

It would be interesting to know who approached whom for this endorsement.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at January 20, 2016 08:05 AM (F3IIA)

76 " I assume the weather channel will give this winter storm a name."
Bud? Charlie? Festus? Those would be good names.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 20, 2016 08:03 AM


They already done dood it.

The storm is called "Jonas."

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 20, 2016 08:06 AM (ZPz7d)

77 "I don't see any benefit to Donald Trump of stirring that hornets nest again. "



Haven't figured it out myself. She's not the "Tea Party" darling anymore. Reality TV has taken a toll on the family. She does some weird things from time to time.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 20, 2016 08:06 AM (oS52a)

78 Where? Babi Yar? Sheesh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:05 AM (zLP1L)


The World gone crazy...and no doubt die to the Lack of American Leadership in the world.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2016 08:06 AM (DUoqb)

79 I especially like the comments that go 'kiss of death, she torpedoed McCains campaign.'

Not for me. Only reason I got out of bed and pulled the lever for that asshole.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 20, 2016 08:06 AM (fWAjv)

80 Plus, her kids. How do you keep them off the front page all the time?
Posted by: ugg boots at January 20, 2016 08:03 AM (fbovC)


What do her kids have to do with it. I thought we decent republicans were against using politician's kids as props?

Have the rules changed?



Only for Palin.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 20, 2016 08:07 AM (ct0K5)

81 Almost ALL Endorsements are total FUBAR and meaningless. Let's move on

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2016 08:07 AM (DUoqb)

82 Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2016 07:49 AM (DUoqb)

I would love to, but life intrudes.

Buy a snowblower, and teach your kids how to use it!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 20, 2016 08:07 AM (Zu3d9)

83 I got tired of seeing what idiots my acquaintances were and letting Mark Zuckerberg track me and compile advertising data on me for the privilege, so I quit Facebook.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 20, 2016 08:07 AM (oVJmc)

84 78 Where? Babi Yar? Sheesh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:05 AM (zLP1L)


The World gone crazy...and no doubt die to the Lack of American Leadership in the world.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2016 08:06 AM (DUoqb)


On that, you are 100% frighteningly correct. The next year is just going to be hideous.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:07 AM (zLP1L)

85 I blame Islam.

Posted by: Hikaru at January 20, 2016 08:08 AM (9TK8E)

86 "The storm is called "Jonas."


"Jonas"


Thus evidence I don't watch TWC.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 20, 2016 08:08 AM (oS52a)

87 I was thinking last night after reading about the kernuffle in Wassila.. If Sarah had not be snatched by McCain to save his campaign... She'd likely still be Governor. No? Her kids would not have been swept into the national kleg lights... maybe they'd still be young adults with issues, but I wonder. I think that family has paid a dear price for her exposure. They've got compensated financially, but I wonder about the underlying emotional toll. Kinda sad.

Posted by: Yip at January 20, 2016 08:08 AM (e7T6D)

88 Buy a snowblower, and teach your kids how to use it!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 20, 2016 08:07 AM (Zu3d9)

Why do I need a snowblower, I mean I do have your phone number?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2016 08:08 AM (DUoqb)

89 "I don't see any benefit to Donald Trump of stirring that hornets nest again. "


Publicity publicity publicity

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 20, 2016 08:08 AM (fWAjv)

90 Trump does NOT want to come in second in Iowa, so he's looking to do anything to give him an edge over Cruz.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 20, 2016 08:09 AM (oVJmc)

91
If memory serves me correctly, Palin endorsed McStains in his last senatorial campaign.

Q - E - D

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:09 AM (zLP1L)

92 What do her kids have to do with it. I thought we decent republicans were against using politician's kids as props? Have the rules changed?Posted by: Nevergiveup 



Maybe you haven't seen it yet. Her sons in big trouble with the police. Happened Monday of this week. He's low to mid 20's, so hardly a 'kid', so fair game. It reflects poorly on her when he blows a .18 BAC, beats up a girlfriend, then threatens to off himself with a rifle.

Posted by: ugg boots at January 20, 2016 08:10 AM (fbovC)

93 To me, Palin is largely a cultural figure, or marker, kind of like Trump in that way. They are both politicians, of sorts, but they reach people as is from outside of politics, for better or worse. If Sarah can retail-politic the hell out of Iowa, get those big crowds back from 2008, then maybe this will turn out to be huge for Trump. Or it could marginalize him if Palin falls flat with Iowans. Interesting 2 weeks ahead.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 20, 2016 08:10 AM (2cS/G)

94 89 "I don't see any benefit to Donald Trump of stirring that hornets nest again. "


Publicity publicity publicity
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 20, 2016 08:08 AM (fWAjv)


He's actually turning off people. Between this and smearing Cruz, I think he's damaging his lead. We'll see, of course, but that's my take.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:11 AM (zLP1L)

95 If Sarah had not be snatched by McCain to save his campaign... She'd likely still be Governor. No? Her kids would not have been swept into the national kleg lights... maybe they'd still be young adults with issues, but I wonder. I think that family has paid a dear price for her exposure. They've got compensated financially, but I wonder about the underlying emotional toll. Kinda sad.

I agree. Sarah Palin was not ready for the sh-tstorm that followed when McCain chose her. I think her endorsement of Trump smacks of opportunism, and I recognize her faults. But no way does she deserve all the vitriol that's been thrown at her.

Posted by: V the K at January 20, 2016 08:12 AM (O7MnT)

96 >>>>My area may get a foot of snow. That's 12". Maybe I am wrong, but I
recall a few instances of that much snow during my lifetime, and we
seemed to handle it well.





Over the river in Pennsylvania, I recall a couple of two foot
snowfalls. One late spring, In which the snow all but disappeared by the
afternoon. Another storm the governor closed the roads. By the next day
everything was fine.



It does look like a long one, though. Starting late Friday night, all day Saturday, ending Sunday morning.
.
.
.They are calling for 11-17 inches her in Central Kentucky from this storm. That is more snow than we normally get in a whole winter. It is going to be a multi day storm though if those models can be believed.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2016 08:12 AM (iONHu)

97 He's actually turning off people. Between this and
smearing Cruz, I think he's damaging his lead. We'll see, of course, but
that's my take.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:11 AM


I'm sure Cruz's rally today with Glenn Beck will give him a YUUUUUGE boost, JJ.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 20, 2016 08:13 AM (ZPz7d)

98 McCain brought Palin to national attention. It would have been churlish of her not to endorse him.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at January 20, 2016 08:13 AM (bpn7O)

99 97 I'm sure Cruz's rally today with Glenn Beck will give him a YUUUUUGE boost, JJ.
Posted by: MrScribbler at January 20, 2016 08:13 AM (ZPz7d)


I'm not saying it will. Beck makes me nuts. All in all, it's probably a wash.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:14 AM (zLP1L)

100 Later-than-usual morning thread. I blame the central time zone.
----------------------
At least you didn't Blame It On The Rain!

Posted by: Milli Vanilli at January 20, 2016 08:14 AM (BB+7x)

101
@58. ....hating on Palin.........

Yes, how dare an American speak up and endorse a candidate of their choosing. Yes, we have the 1st Amendment but that does not mean SHE can use it. Hey, lets all take a page out of the moozlem handbook and stone her.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at January 20, 2016 08:14 AM (CzhL0)

102 " But no way does she deserve all the vitriol that's been thrown at her."


Oh, no. She's a pol, a mom, and, a wife. Plenty of farked up political families out there for sure. The media tore her up in ways few running for office could dream.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 20, 2016 08:15 AM (oS52a)

103 98 McCain brought Palin to national attention. It would have been churlish of her not to endorse him.
Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at January 20, 2016 08:13 AM (bpn7O)

She could have kept her mouth shut and made herself incommunicado for a while.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:15 AM (zLP1L)

104 J.J... I think the people he's turning off are folks looking for a reason not to like him... yet. I think there are Trump-curious folks but are looking for social feedback or approval to dismiss him and his movement/supporters. I think this will continue through the summer... and ultimately, a lot of know-betters are just going to declare they're above nationalism and yokels that are mad and just fling poo at the normal folks... just like always. Will be interesting to see how Trump responds if he doesn't win Iowa.. cause he'll likely bash 'em a bit for not picking him and that will be an interesting dynamic.... will he be petulant or gracious?

Posted by: Yip at January 20, 2016 08:15 AM (e7T6D)

105
Would it be fair to say that Hilary Clinton has damaged our national security more quickly and deeply than the combined efforts of the Walkers and Aldrich Ames?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:16 AM (zLP1L)

106 http://tinyurl.com/hgmfgal


Ever feel like a sucker for this whole working and responsibilities shit?


"My Feminist Boyfriend Isn't Working Until The Wage Gap Is Fixed"

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 20, 2016 08:17 AM (fWAjv)

107 Would it be fair to say that Hilary Clinton has damaged our national
security more quickly and deeply than the combined efforts of the
Walkers and Aldrich Ames?


Considering that goes all the way back to selling rocket secrets to the Chinese, hell yes.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 20, 2016 08:17 AM (oVJmc)

108
The Central Time Zone is the corridor via which all those filthy icebacks are invading our country. So, yes, blame it...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 20, 2016 08:18 AM (BK3ZS)

109 That, or ride that strange torpedo McCain put her on all the way to fame and fortune.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at January 20, 2016 08:18 AM (bpn7O)

110 Winning in Iowa is not some kind of guaranteed pathway to the nomination. I think they only have a half and half record the last 6 times?

FWIW

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and Unimproved. at January 20, 2016 08:18 AM (WVsWD)

111 Maryland is a hugely Democratic State.

You can't swing an EBT card without hitting at least three Registered Democrats for every Registered Republican.

So with that, I offer this bit of unusual news about our Republican Governor's popularity.

http://cbsloc.al/1ZLpFhl

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2016 08:18 AM (ptqRm)

112 Ok, I guess it's humor.

I can't tell anymore.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 20, 2016 08:18 AM (fWAjv)

113 86 "The storm is called "Jonas."


"Jonas"


Thus evidence I don't watch TWC.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 20, 2016 08:08 AM (oS52a)


Hurricane Oom-Bop.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:18 AM (zLP1L)

114 I'm glad I stay off social media. I never really talk politics with my family or friends, because they're all far leftists. But I always assumed my very religious evangelical brother was a Republican, which I think he was until the Syrian migrant controversy. Apparently now praises Socialism, and supports Bernie Sanders or Hillary, if necessary.
_________________________________________

59
56 Ugh, Facebook this morning, hating on Palin.......I have to stop using that crap.

Posted by: Flyover at January 20, 2016 07:56 AM (Tv8Oe)



Puzzled by Palin's endorsement but that said, Fascist Buch is a
complete sewer. Check that; it actually is a very good barometer for
divinating exactly how insane your friends and relatives are.



Total waste of time and actually deleterious to one's health.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 07:58 AM (zLP1L)

Posted by: Pyrocles at January 20, 2016 08:18 AM (MYMcU)

115 From this date in 1944- near the Rapido River

Jan 20, 1944 - The EZ Dog Journal
Moved to new CP just off loop in road at Lungo. In tents again. Nothing unusual happened during move. Very quiet in valley before attack. Attack started 2000. Not going well. Bridges blown. Troops generally not able to cross.




Understated description of the crossing of the Bloody Rapido.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 20, 2016 08:19 AM (NeFrd)

116 "Would it be fair to say that Hilary Clinton has damaged our national security more quickly and deeply than the combined efforts of the Walkers and Aldrich Ames? "


Yes it would. The fact that she'll probably skate with a slap on the wrist and maybe the Presidency is even less fair.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 20, 2016 08:19 AM (oS52a)

117 Music for the Cruz/Beck rally today.

bit.ly/13U04HP

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 20, 2016 08:19 AM (ZPz7d)

118 hahaha... @115.. I LOVE how Trump has been picking on Will lately.... openly mocking him... pretty funny.

Posted by: Yip at January 20, 2016 08:20 AM (e7T6D)

119 Now is the winter of our bacontent, made glorious summer by this son of Pork.

Posted by: Richard III at January 20, 2016 08:20 AM (dlIzT)

120
The fvcking hysterics over a bit of a snowstorm coming to the Northeast is getting ridiculous.


My area may get a foot of snow. That's 12". Maybe I am wrong, but I recall a few instances of that much snow during my lifetime, and we seemed to handle it well.


The editorializing on the part of the weathermen is unseemly. Shut up, describe the most likely path of the storm, and have a crying jag in your dressing room, but not in public.



I guess it depends on where you are, CBD. I live on the North Shore of Massachusetts, and all we're hearing right now is, "we may get snow, we may not. We won't know for another couple of days." Which is annoying, since I'd like to know what I'm going to be dealing with, but there it is. At least the storm's on a weekend, so I don't have to get up at 2 in the morning to dig myself out to go to work.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 20, 2016 08:20 AM (X6fMO)

121
My Eunuch Feminist Boyfriend Isn't Working Until The Wage Gap Is Fixed

Shoulda read the fine print pre-op, Chuckles

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 20, 2016 08:21 AM (BK3ZS)

122 If Trump has, what's been estimated to be, a fair bit of Dem crossover support, I can see Palin's endorsement hurting him. Even independents. She invokes a lot of hatred in a lot of people. Justified or not. Time will tell what, if any, impact her endorsement will have.

Posted by: Lady in Black at January 20, 2016 08:21 AM (pVkEV)

123 whoa, nevermind @115... weird... post got deleted?

Posted by: Yip at January 20, 2016 08:21 AM (e7T6D)

124
"My Feminist Boyfriend Isn't Working Until The Wage Gap Is Fixed"


It's just this war and that lying son of a bitch Johnson...

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 20, 2016 08:22 AM (oVJmc)

125 Well, today is garbage day. So there's that.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 20, 2016 08:23 AM (u5gzz)

126 Travel warnings all over South and Central America and the Caribbean about a mosquito-borne illness that causes severe birth defects (microcephaly). Pregnant women are urged to avoid the area. So where is Chelsea Clinton, you ask? Why, Turks and Caicos, of course.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 20, 2016 08:23 AM (E6RIJ)

127 "Ok, I guess it's humor.

I can't tell anymore."


When you can't tell, I guess just laugh and go on.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 20, 2016 08:23 AM (oS52a)

128 And in more B'More breaking news, an individual has been shot.


This time, the suspect is rather large.


http://tinyurl.com/jyzmp2u





Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2016 08:24 AM (ptqRm)

129
Ugh, Facebook this morning, hating on Palin.......I have to stop using that crap.

This place isn't much better. Holy Hannah, but a lot of commenters had on their virtual "Sarah Palin Is A C*nt" T-shirts yesterday.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 20, 2016 08:24 AM (X6fMO)

130 In before the Palin firing squads resume?

Posted by: Fritz at January 20, 2016 08:24 AM (UzPAd)

131 Re: Palin--I don't understand why Mama Grizzly, the alleged One True Conservative, would endorse a f*cking New York Progressive--and to heap praise on him as Christian to boot. In Trump's world, the only god is Money, and the Donald is his Prophet.

I liked Palin in '08. She did good for the movement in '10 and helped some in '12. But please, Sarah, it's time for you to go. God help us all if your endorsement gets Trump elected over Cruz.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 20, 2016 08:25 AM (b2cFu)

132 #120, MP4 -- I noticed that yesterday, and today Weather Channel seems to be walking back its predictions of the storm's impact.

Despite all the snow last year, we had only one day with a driving ban. A lot of locals ignored the ban anyway.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 20, 2016 08:25 AM (ZPz7d)

133 WARSAW, Poland (AP) Subfreezing temperatures and snow have settled over Central Europe, adding to the difficulties of migrants heading to Western Europe but not weakening their determination to continue their journeys.

Got to get to Germany, no matter what. The Chancellor Angela Merkel, has the welcome mat out!

Posted by: Colin at January 20, 2016 08:25 AM (InayV)

134 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 20, 2016 08:19 AM (NeFrd)

That was a very nasty place. We got our asses handed to us by the Germans.

Thank you General Clark!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 20, 2016 08:25 AM (Zu3d9)

135 1.
ONE


YEAR


LEFT

Unfortunately, it could be one year left until the beginning of the Sanders administration. I used to live in Vermont, this guy is an old befuddled version of Hugo Chavez.

Posted by: Ducky Davis at January 20, 2016 08:26 AM (8R8mX)

136 Police believe walk-in victim was shot by Mondawmin Mall Tuesday

The mall shot him.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 20, 2016 08:26 AM (oVJmc)

137 Good morning

Anybody remark on this AFFH thing yet? Haven't scanned comments.

Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing undermines State and Local government apparently by designating cities as regional whatevers, such that Des Moines becomes effectively a suburb of Chicago. Should be something to look at.

Have a meeting now, BBL.

Posted by: Bigby's Hand of Glory at January 20, 2016 08:27 AM (3ZtZW)

138 I see Palin's support of Trump as one of those "F-U GOPe" votes. And if anybody would want to tell the GOPe to eff off, I would be her.

Posted by: Lady in Black at January 20, 2016 08:27 AM (pVkEV)

139 129
Ugh, Facebook this morning, hating on Palin.......I have to stop using that crap.

This place isn't much better. Holy Hannah, but a lot of commenters had on their virtual "Sarah Palin Is A C*nt" T-shirts yesterday.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 20, 2016 08:24 AM (X6fMO)


Hey now. I might disagree with Palin on her endorsement of Trump and some of her other stances post 2008, but I don't think anyone here has stooped THAT low, have they?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:27 AM (zLP1L)

140 Travel warnings all over South and Central America and the Caribbean about a mosquito-borne illness that causes severe birth defects (microcephaly).


Spoilsport. They're on their 'babymoon'. Though I'm only guessing the husband is with her. The Clinton family does have a history of visiting islands without a spouse.

Posted by: ugg boots at January 20, 2016 08:27 AM (fbovC)

141 "The mall shot him."

That is apparently the narrative.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2016 08:27 AM (ptqRm)

142 @110

Iowa is full of Religious Democrats who love corn welfare.

They have gone to the Donks in 88, 92, 96, 00, 08 and 12.

They have given wins to the non-presidents Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum.

I don't think Palins endorsement means much.


Winning Iowa means jack squat nothing.

Having said that, Trump will win Iowa, he will win the nomination and Cruz will be his VP.


Saracuda will be Secretary of the Interior or Beurueu of Land Management. She will lead the effort to return all of the Federal Lands to the Western States.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 20, 2016 08:28 AM (7GJvw)

143
And in more B'More breaking news, an individual has been shot.





This time, the suspect is rather large.





http://tinyurl.com/jyzmp2u













Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2016 08:24 AM (ptqRm)

Damn, I didn't know the mall could be that bad....

Posted by: Colin at January 20, 2016 08:28 AM (InayV)

144 134 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 20, 2016 08:19 AM (NeFrd)

That was a very nasty place. We got our asses handed to us by the Germans.

Thank you General Clark!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 20, 2016 08:25 AM (Zu3d9)


Mark Clark had Patton's ego without any of his skill. He got a lot of GI's killed unnecessarily. And going pell mell for Rome instead of driving across the boot and cutting off the Germans was inexcusable.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:29 AM (zLP1L)

145 "This time, the suspect is rather large.


http://tinyurl.com/jyzmp2u "



I'd stay away from that mall. Bad attitude it has.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 20, 2016 08:30 AM (oS52a)

146 The Clinton family does have a history of visiting islands without a spouse.

Posted by: ugg boots at January 20, 2016 08:27 AM
~~~~
Good point. Hey, exactly where is Pedophile Island anyway?

Posted by: IrishEi at January 20, 2016 08:31 AM (E6RIJ)

147 129
Ugh, Facebook this morning, hating on Palin.......I have to stop using that crap.

This place isn't much better. Holy Hannah, but a lot of commenters had on their virtual "Sarah Palin Is A C*nt" T-shirts yesterday.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 20, 2016 08:24 AM (X6fMO)

Not surprising, unfortunately. The ugliest fights are always among brothers, in blood or in spirit.

I was never a Palinista by any stretch, and I don't hate her either. She's just no longer helpful to conservatism in general, IMO, at least as she currently operates. I'd rather see her try to become a new generation's Prager, working on spreading the gospel of God, guns and limited government, than seemingly trying to stay in the limelight for notoriety's sake.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 20, 2016 08:31 AM (b2cFu)

148
Hey now. I might disagree with Palin on her endorsement of Trump and some of her other stances post 2008, but I don't think anyone here has stooped THAT low, have they?

I was browsing through the "Palin endorses Trump" thread earlier. Some pretty vile stuff. One, responding to a question of whether Teh Donald would offer her a cabinet position, said something along the lines of "what post? Secretary of Pumping Out Whore Daughters?"

I think we had a lot of new names yesterday, but things were damned harsh.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 20, 2016 08:31 AM (X6fMO)

149 Kreplach @142 Man... if only... that would be great... especially the BLM part.

Posted by: Yip at January 20, 2016 08:31 AM (e7T6D)

150 146 Good point. Hey, exactly where is Pedophile Island anyway?
Posted by: IrishEi at January 20, 2016 08:31 AM (E6RIJ)


Reid's basement.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:31 AM (zLP1L)

151 "Saracuda will be Secretary of the Interior or Beurueu of Land Management. She will lead the effort to return all of the Federal Lands to the Western States. "


I'll have what he's having.


Your lips, God's ears.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 20, 2016 08:33 AM (oS52a)

152
I think we had a lot of new names yesterday, but things were damned harsh.


Plenty of people flaunting the 'edgy' yesterday.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 20, 2016 08:33 AM (oVJmc)

153 "Saracuda will be Secretary of the Interior or Beurueu of Land Management. She will lead the effort to return all of the Federal Lands to the Western States."

From your keyboard to God's ears.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at January 20, 2016 08:33 AM (bpn7O)

154 148 I think we had a lot of new names yesterday, but things were damned harsh.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 20, 2016 08:31 AM (X6fMO)

Yeah, on second thought I jumped out of that thread as it started to degenerate. That is pretty damn vile.

But, as we all know, the nighttime threads somehow bring out some pretty sick commentary. And ban hammers.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:33 AM (zLP1L)

155 Trump will win Iowa, he will win the nomination and Cruz will be his VP.

And if there is a merciful God, Trump will last in office just long enough to build the wall and deport the invaders before resigning for health reasons and handing the management of the country to Vice President Cruz.

Posted by: V the K at January 20, 2016 08:33 AM (O7MnT)

156 Al Sharpton To Organize Boycott Of Academy Awards

Weasel Zippers

OK Al you go do that. LMAO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2016 08:34 AM (DUoqb)

157 Unfortunately J.J. Sefton it is shaping up to be a very interesting year.

Just pray we live through it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 20, 2016 08:34 AM (lJ28Y)

158 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 20, 2016 08:20 AM (X6fMO)

I get NYC weather news, so everyone is in a tizzy. It is in part to protect DeBlasio, who can't seem to do anything right. If everyone expects a monster blizzard and we get 6" of snow, then he looks like a rock star for keeping the city open.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 20, 2016 08:34 AM (Zu3d9)

159 Anybody remark on this AFFH thing yet? Haven't scanned comments.

Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing undermines State and Local government apparently by designating cities as regional whatevers, such that Des Moines becomes effectively a suburb of Chicago.



Dallas/Ft. Worth claims ALL of Oklahoma, Arkansas, & Louisiana!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 20, 2016 08:34 AM (ct0K5)

160 There is such a serious divide that I've noticed on FB, Twitter, Misc blogs etc... regarding Cruz/Trump. One thing I'm curious about is how many Cruz voters will cross over to vote for Trump and how many Trump voters will cross over for Cruz.

Something else I've noticed while talking to people about this election, is that a lot of Dem voters that either voted for Obama or didn't vote at all, love Trump, but will not vote for Cruz. I really believe the reason Trump is so high in all the polls is because of the dem crossover. I don't see this as a good thing.
I am on team Cruz and I don't know if I will be able to hold my nose and vote for Trump. Something I've always done in the past like a good little Republican. I don't trust Donald, I feel like he's a slimy salesman, all he cares about is winning, I don't think he really cares what team he's playing for as long as he wins and I'm not sure how that will play out if he's President.
Is he better than Clinton, or Bernie, of course, but that being said I still have a lot of thinking to do before I will be able to bring myself to vote for someone who has spent most of their lives having liberal views

Posted by: spypeach at January 20, 2016 08:35 AM (nyYhO)

161 The fact that Trump has spent the last week going full tinfoil toupee on Crux-birtherism in no way means he's ruled out Cruz as a VP. It's not like consistency is one of Trump's virtues.

Posted by: V the K at January 20, 2016 08:35 AM (O7MnT)

162 #33 My area may get a foot of snow. That's 12". Maybe I am wrong, but I recall a few instances of that much snow during my lifetime, and we seemed to handle it well.

True dat. Here in the Buffalo area in winter, we call a foot of snow "Wednesday."

(not so much this particular winter, which has been quite mild so far for this area.)




Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 20, 2016 08:35 AM (HMt16)

163 155 Trump will win Iowa, he will win the nomination and Cruz will be his VP.

And if there is a merciful God, Trump will last in office just long enough to build the wall and deport the invaders before resigning for health reasons and handing the management of the country to Vice President Cruz.
Posted by: V the K at January 20, 2016 08:33 AM (O7MnT)


I sadly think Trump has burned that bridge. If after all this he wins and does ask Cruz to be veep, that would be very weird.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:35 AM (zLP1L)

164 "Just pray we live through it."


This situation will get outta control......




-Some Admiral guy

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 20, 2016 08:36 AM (oS52a)

165 Latest polls show Uncle Bernie is destroying the senile old witch in
NH. Will bring me great pleasure watching the witch have a melt down and self-destruct. Less so seeing the country burn afterwards if Bernie manages to get elected.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 20, 2016 08:36 AM (1BQGO)

166 Since Combover Jeb is dropping out of the senate, and since he won't win the Republican nomination, where does he go from here?

Governor of Florida then another Presidential run in 2024?

Posted by: V the K at January 20, 2016 08:37 AM (O7MnT)

167 160 Posted by: spypeach at January 20, 2016 08:35 AM (nyYhO)


Which candidate will do the most to attempt to reverse the course of the past 7 years, and in fact 50-100 years?

Look at the records, examine their statements, examine their actions over the years and then make your choice.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:37 AM (zLP1L)

168 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 20, 2016 08:37 AM (ZQfW9)

169 http://www.atr.org/irs-erases-hard-drive-despite-court-order

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 20, 2016 08:37 AM (MbrzC)

170 The fact that Trump has spent the last week going full tinfoil toupee on Crux-birtherism in no way means he's ruled out Cruz as a VP. It's not like consistency is one of Trump's virtues.



It's also called "get it out now so the media has nothing later".

Posted by: rickb223 at January 20, 2016 08:38 AM (ct0K5)

171 160 There is such a serious divide that I've noticed on FB, Twitter, Misc blogs etc... regarding Cruz/Trump. One thing I'm curious about is how many Cruz voters will cross over to vote for Trump and how many Trump voters will cross over for Cruz.

[...] I still have a lot of thinking to do before I will be able to bring myself to vote for someone who has spent most of their lives having liberal views
Posted by: spypeach at January 20, 2016 08:35 AM (nyYhO)


What she said.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 20, 2016 08:38 AM (b2cFu)

172 I see DeBolshevik will claim victory against the handsome cab industry... he's managed to put exactly 50% of the cabbies and their horses out of business.

So much for caring about the horses' well-being. Now there is no economic reason to keep 50% of them alive.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 20, 2016 08:38 AM (lJ28Y)

173 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:29 AM (zLP1L)

He was good friends with Eisenhower. That shielded him from criticism that would have destroyed a less well-connected officer.

And you are 100% correct. he should have cut off the Germans and not allowed them to escape. Rookie mistake. He wanted the glory, and the GIs payed for it with their guts.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 20, 2016 08:38 AM (Zu3d9)

174 "Dallas/Ft. Worth claims ALL of Oklahoma, Arkansas, & Louisiana!"



Dibs on Eastern Oklahoma. I shall build a cabin in the hills and live off the land.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 20, 2016 08:38 AM (oS52a)

175 169 http://www.atr.org/irs-erases-hard-drive-despite-court-order
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 20, 2016 08:37 AM (MbrzC)


Oh, Mr. Trump? Your thoughts on this, please.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:38 AM (zLP1L)

176 Remember ... H.W. became Reagan's VP. If Reagan could do that... anything is possible. H.W. was a piece in the primaries. Revolting.... but somehow dismissed for the greater good.

Posted by: Yip at January 20, 2016 08:40 AM (e7T6D)

177 "My Feminist Boyfriend Isn't Working Until The Wage Gap Is Fixed"
_______________________

LOL. Yeah, reminds me of those boyfriends of various femi-skanks who said they weren't going to marry the chicks until gays could legally marry. 'Cuz they're so down with the struggle, and all that, man.

Then, suddenly, gays could legally marry. And guess what? The femi-boyfriends still didn't want to marry their femi-skank girlfriends. They gay marriage thing was just a convenient excuse for not doing something they didn't want to do anyway. Hahahaha.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 20, 2016 08:40 AM (a31sM)

178 173 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:29 AM (zLP1L)

He was good friends with Eisenhower. That shielded him from criticism that would have destroyed a less well-connected officer.

And you are 100% correct. he should have cut off the Germans and not allowed them to escape. Rookie mistake. He wanted the glory, and the GIs payed for it with their guts.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 20, 2016 08:38 AM (Zu3d9)


Fucking guy captured an open city and made the headlines - for two days until June 6th, 1944.

Momzer.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:40 AM (zLP1L)

179 @161

I haven't seen anything that is a showstopper between Trump and Cruz.

Remember, GHW Bush coined the term Vooodoo economics as a slur against Reagan's economic policies.

That guy became the gippers VP.

So I think we may still get Trump/Cruz unless one of them says something that is unrecoverable.

It would probably come from Trump, let's hope not.

We need Cruz running rough shod as President of the Senate.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 20, 2016 08:40 AM (7GJvw)

180 Conservative Treehouse did an epic debunking of the current Cruzbot meme that Trump pays people to attend his rallies.

Not only did the Cruzbot who started the meme post messages on Facebook that make it absolutely clear that he was nowhere near the Trump rally he claimed to have been paid to attend, but in one of the damning posts he called himself a "fat ass." And far more people saw that post than he ever dreamed of. Heh heh. Comments section gold.

Thinking things out in advance iz haaaaard.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 20, 2016 08:40 AM (HMt16)

181 "Governor of Florida then another Presidential run in 2024?"


Variety show with lots of singing, dancing, and, a wacky red-head wife.....?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 20, 2016 08:40 AM (oS52a)

182
Latest polls show Uncle Bernie is destroying the senile old witch in
NH. Will bring me great pleasure watching the witch have a melt down and self-destruct. Less so seeing the country burn afterwards if Bernie manages to get elected.



I think it was that addlepated lefty Mort Sahl who once said something along the lines of, "In 200 years, we've gone from George Washington and John Adams to Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew. You have to wonder just how much of that kind of progress a country can stand." I feel the same way when I realize that New England - home of sturdy pioneers and rock-ribbed revolutionaries - has devolved into a six-state Section 8 housing project.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 20, 2016 08:40 AM (X6fMO)

183 Regarding Facebook, I like the line "If you are not paying for the service, you are not the customer. You are the product."


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 20, 2016 08:41 AM (1ijHg)

184 There is such a serious divide that I've noticed on FB, Twitter, Misc blogs etc... regarding Cruz/Trump. One thing I'm curious about is how many Cruz voters will cross over to vote for Trump and how many Trump voters will cross over for Cruz.

[...] I still have a lot of thinking to do before I will be able to bring myself to vote for someone who has spent most of their lives having liberal views
Posted by: spypeach



#1. Trump
#2. Cruz
Voting for Trump is a FU vote to the GOPe.
Not an "embracement" of his past life.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 20, 2016 08:41 AM (ct0K5)

185 176 Remember ... H.W. became Reagan's VP. If Reagan could do that... anything is possible. H.W. was a piece in the primaries. Revolting.... but somehow dismissed for the greater good.
Posted by: Yip at January 20, 2016 08:40 AM (e7T6D)


That was Reagan's biggest flaw. He thought he could reconcile and bring people together. Instead, Pappy Bush squandered the Reagan legacy and gave us Clinton, Dubya and then Trotsky.

Should have nominated Paul Laxalt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:42 AM (zLP1L)

186
169 http://www.atr.org/irs-erases-hard-drive-despite-court-order
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 20, 2016 08:37 AM (MbrzC)




Oh, Mr. Trump? Your thoughts on this, please.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:38 AM (zLP1L)
I'd actually like to hear Cruz' thoughts on that, since part of his stump speech is eliminating the IRS (which I don't believe he can, or will, do).

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 20, 2016 08:42 AM (X6fMO)

187 If Trump had run in his "natural" Party, the Dems, we would be in a lot better shape. Of course he couldn't, that Party is closed except for those who are anointed from on high, but it would've been a better show, and possibly a better outcome in the General. A Cruz vs. Trump election would have been a win-win, to the extent anyone wins in politics.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 20, 2016 08:42 AM (2cS/G)

188 reading Roger Simon's column this morning

it isn't a "homebrew" server

that language is a loser

it's an "insecure server" -- that *has* to be the language

Hillary Clinton, the Secretary of State, KNOWINGLY communicated top-secret and beyond top-secret information across an INSECURE server

that alone should put her in prison, let alone disqualify her for any public office

absolutely outrageous, and on the order of high treason

Posted by: Feh at January 20, 2016 08:43 AM (/7QNF)

189 A really awesome part of Jeb! failing so badly and hopefully cratering... is the dead-ending ( I pray) of his kid's national prospects... little George P. Bush, who is now a Land commissioner in Texas.... and don't doubt he's got ambition.... and backers.

Posted by: Yip at January 20, 2016 08:43 AM (e7T6D)

190 I think it was during Shingle that Gen. Mark Clark took a PT boat to the stalled beachhead. And the PT boats were almost sunk by British tin cans.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 20, 2016 08:44 AM (lJ28Y)

191 184

#1. Trump
#2. Cruz
Voting for Trump is a FU vote to the GOPe.
Not an "embracement" of his past life.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 20, 2016 08:41 AM (ct0K5)


Voting for Trump to flip the bird to the GOPe and ending up with him as President isn't cutting off your nose to spite your face; it's slitting your wrist so you die from that instead of the bleeding ulcer.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 20, 2016 08:44 AM (b2cFu)

192 #155 I had that dream once.

Posted by: Miley's Tongue at January 20, 2016 08:45 AM (NTbr4)

193 Less so seeing the country burn afterwards if Bernie manages to get elected.
Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 20, 2016 08:36 AM (1BQGO)
___________________

If the commie wins, I'm going to quit working and apply for every type of welfare there is. If we're gonna burn it down, I'm not going to be the only one not getting part of the stash.

Or maybe I'll do what the illegals do: I'll keep working, I'll just arrange to be paid off the books. Then I'll still apply for all the welfare, I'll just lie about how much other income I have.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 20, 2016 08:45 AM (a31sM)

194 So in Calais (where many 'refugees' are camped out until they can get to the UK) reporters went there to do a puff piece on their terrible plight.

The yutes roughed up the reporters
http://tinyurl.com/j5s9jpc


Kinda reminds me of the reporters who covered the BLM riot and got mugged and assaulted.

Posted by: McCool at January 20, 2016 08:45 AM (nCSwS)

195 186 (which I don't believe he can, or will, do).
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 20, 2016 08:42 AM (X6fMO)

It's called going over the heads of the MFM and Beltway directly to the people and doing everything in his power to at least attempt to do something that blunts them.

If DC is unstoppable, then it makes no difference at all and all this yelling about who's better is a total waste of time.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:45 AM (zLP1L)

196 Following up "Civis romanus sum" in the last thread, I'd like to share another bit of Roman history. A little more two thousand years ago, Rome experienced three major slave revolts, called the Servile Wars, over the course of a century. Most of us have probably heard at least secondhand about the heavily-mythologized Spartacus and his band participating in the third such revolt, with a lot of modern liberty bullshit tacked onto what was basically a gang leader wanting to be the slave-*owner* rather than the slave.

The Romans, being badasses who at this point had Enough Of This Shit (TM), put down Spartacus and his last slave revolt by crucifying Spartacus, crucifying his fellow rebel leaders, crucifying his friends, crucifying everyone who'd fought alongside him (except the dead ones, obviously, no point crucifying them), and in fact crucifying practically every rebel they could get their hands on after the battle. All in all about six thousand crucifixions.

And those weren't in a dedicated crucifixion field somewhere out of the way with attached mass grave, either. The survivors of the uprising were crucified along the big Roman highway running through South Italy, so that travellers going to and from Rome would see these bodies hanging from crosses every step of the way, a yuuuge sign of DO NOT MESS WITH ROME OR WE WILL FUCK YOUR SHIT UP.

Rome never had any more Servile Wars until the sad day it fell to the Turks some 1500 years later. Now there's world leadership: solving a problem so hard that in an empire spanning three continents, the problem stays solved for over a millennium.

Posted by: Blackbutt the Pirate at January 20, 2016 08:46 AM (VOlXq)

197 dri put a new "Suicide Squad" trailer in the sidebar.

The trailer is great! The movie will probably suck, but still.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 20, 2016 08:46 AM (Zu3d9)

198 Look at the records, examine their statements, examine their actions over the years and then make your choice.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:37 AM (zLP1L)

I believe that person will be someone who actually believes in and understands the Constitution.

What do you think Trump would do if he starts getting a conservative backlash? I think he'll start calling us names and jump on the liberal/RINO bandwagon. He's a panderer and when I look at what is happening it's like watching what happened with Obama in 2008, it's weird and a little creepy. Don't get me wrong, I think Donald served a purpose, he did get the media's attention, he has gotten away with a lot of crap that no real republican or conservative has or will ever get away with. He uses the Dem playbook against them, and it has worked for him so far. I'm just not sure if in the long run that is good for conservatives.

Posted by: spypeach at January 20, 2016 08:47 AM (nyYhO)

199 IA may not be a pathway to the nomination, but losing both IA & NH is assuredly a pathway to oblivion.

Those of us who are politically active in the Midwest have noticed states out here moving rapidly to the right, like the proverbial scalded hound. See, e.g.., MO, where the DEM party has turned into the "AA & colleg town" party.

IA is no exception. See, e.g.., Ernst, Joni. I submit that the fact that IA has often voted DEM in prexy elections in the recent past probably has no predictive value, if the GOP nominee is remotely competitive nationally.

Obama has hollowed out the DEM party in the South & Midwest. The evidence is so abundant & overwhelming that even Zero recently acknowledged it, explaining that, "I can't help wondering, frankly, if it has something to do with my race."

Posted by: mnw at January 20, 2016 08:47 AM (NiHAc)

200 Yeah... Clark was the idiot that dug in at Anzio completely neutering advantage of that landing and allowing zgermans to quickly reinforce and pin them down. I'm sure I'm being too harsh, ... it would have been a slog no matter what, but too many guys got ground to pieces because of poor Generalship in Italy.. piss poor.

Posted by: Yip at January 20, 2016 08:49 AM (e7T6D)

201 VIDEO: Migrant to Sweden Says He'll Kill 10 People And 'Eat Humans' During Anti-Western Bus Tirade
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Paul Ryan: Now this IS who we are.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 20, 2016 08:49 AM (MbrzC)

202 Bernie, elected?

look, Hillary's campaign is wounded, bleeding, and should be killed, no letting up allowed

but that doesn't mean the firepower shouldn't now be tracked just as effectively on Bernie

the reality is that Socialism is a Shitstorm. here's a Swiss finance guy:

"Combined public and private debt has surged to all-time highs to 185pc of GDP in emerging markets and to 265pc of GDP in the OECD club, both up by 35 percentage points since the top of the last credit cycle in 2007. "Emerging markets were part of the solution after the Lehman crisis. Now they are part of the problem too," Mr White said."

socialism = debt = implosion

Posted by: Feh at January 20, 2016 08:49 AM (/7QNF)

203 These are desperate times, and the country can benefit from a slimy salesman, if he's selling the right stuff. Immigration is the most urgent matter on the table.

Cruz is too straight for this job right now. He can take over after Trump.

While I know The Donald is often full of shit, I know he loves the country and won't do the damage the America-hating Obama does.

Posted by: Miley's Tongue at January 20, 2016 08:49 AM (NTbr4)

204 I think Trump will pick a woman for VP. I think he will calculate it as a way to neutralize Hillary or Sanders' inevitable VP pick, Liz Warren.

I think his short list would be Susana Martinez, Mia Love (maybe - I think the thought of 'Trump-Love' bumperstickers would be too great for his ego to resist), Carly Fiorina (Maybe), Kelly Ayotte, but I think the most likely pick is Ann Coulter.

Posted by: V the K at January 20, 2016 08:49 AM (O7MnT)

205 198 Posted by: spypeach at January 20, 2016 08:47 AM (nyYhO)


My comment is just something I'd like all the good morons to really think long and hard about. And you did just that. Now, someone else might come to a different conclusion, but at least that is the point of the exercise.

Turn off the tube, tune out the noise, do the research and then draw the conclusion.

Let the chips fall where they may, but at least you (the royal "you") will have approached it rationally. And most people here I think are of that bent.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:50 AM (zLP1L)

206 @191

Disagree. The GOPe is now as big a threat to "us" as the Democrat Party. They do not believe in conservatism any more than the Rats. They are in league.

As long as the D.C. Establishment is running things we'll never get our nation sorted out.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 20, 2016 08:50 AM (oS52a)

207 200 Yeah... Clark was the idiot that dug in at Anzio completely neutering advantage of that landing and allowing zgermans to quickly reinforce and pin them down. I'm sure I'm being too harsh, ... it would have been a slog no matter what, but too many guys got ground to pieces because of poor Generalship in Italy.. piss poor.
Posted by: Yip at January 20, 2016 08:49 AM (e7T6D)


Actually Anzio was the fault of John P. Lucas. Not sure if Clark was the overall theatre/corps commander there. Might even have been a Brit (Alexander?).

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:51 AM (zLP1L)

208 >>>>Yeah... Clark was the idiot that dug in at Anzio completely neutering
advantage of that landing and allowing zgermans to quickly reinforce and
pin them down. I'm sure I'm being too harsh, ... it would have been a
slog no matter what, but too many guys got ground to pieces because of
poor Generalship in Italy.. piss poor.
.
.
.It would have been a mess no matter who was in charge. Advancing up the Italian boot gives every single advantage to the defender, hence Anzio and the attempted outflanking of German positions. Plus Kesselring was a brilliant defensive commander who had months and months to prepare Italy for the invasion that everyone knew was coming.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2016 08:51 AM (iONHu)

209 These marching migrants remind me of a reverse crusade.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 20, 2016 08:51 AM (iQIUe)

210 but I think the most likely pick is Ann Coulter.

Posted by: V the K at January 20, 2016 08:49 AM (O7MnT
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Until that one I almost thought you were being serious.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 20, 2016 08:52 AM (MbrzC)

211 "I can't help wondering, frankly, if it has something to do with my race."

a consummate jackass

Posted by: Feh at January 20, 2016 08:52 AM (/7QNF)

212 He uses the Dem playbook against them, and it has worked for him so far. I'm just not sure if in the long run that is good for conservatives.


But more of the last 8 years is?

"We can't do anything with only one house!"
"Okay. Here are both houses!"
(Before being sworn in)
"Impeachment is off the table!"

Posted by: rickb223 at January 20, 2016 08:52 AM (ct0K5)

213 Let the chips fall where they may, but at least you (the royal "you") will have approached it rationally. And most people here I think are of that bent.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:50 AM (zLP1L)

Agreed

Posted by: spypeach at January 20, 2016 08:52 AM (nyYhO)

214 185 And Coolidge gave us Herbert Hoover.So it goes...

Posted by: steevy at January 20, 2016 08:52 AM (8HTq1)

215 Look at the records, examine their statements, examine their actions over the years and then make your choice.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:37 AM


I find it strange that eight (and four) years ago, some people were excoriating a candidate for wanting to be president when he had been in the Senate for only one term, might be ineligible for reasons of birth, might have been a citizen of another country as a boy, espoused policies that would hand American jobs to foreigners, etc., etc. And they were right on all counts. Said individual was elected, and among other things, gave Iran support in its quest to have nukes, and gave us TPP, for which he was justifiably excoriated some more.

And now some of those same people are all in for Ted Cruz....

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 20, 2016 08:53 AM (ZPz7d)

216 I understood why Palin supported Trump.

It's the biggest FU possible to the GOPe.


What I didn't like is her crapping on Cruz to do it.

She of all people should be anti-scurrilous personal attacks. Esp. for fellow conservatives.


That being said, I hope she's in it to win it. Not some one and done.

I hope she takes her message straight into all of those Democrat blue-collar strongholds where the workers have been crapped all over by Obama and the Dims.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2016 08:53 AM (KUa85)

217 What do you think Trump would do if he starts getting a conservative backlash? I think he'll start calling us names and jump on the liberal/RINO bandwagon.

^^^ THIS

When Donald realizes how hard it is just to build a wall or do the things he says he wants to do, he will re-discover The Art of the Deal and tell us that we dont understand how business gets done in government.

Despite his bluster, he will be co-opted by the GOPe in a way I dont think Cruz will be.

Posted by: McCool at January 20, 2016 08:53 AM (nCSwS)

218 Cruz should be nowhere near the White House, he's an unhinged maniac.

But the Supreme Court that's another story.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 20, 2016 08:53 AM (LXJ1e)

219 BTW: I have an idea for a time-travel novel. Can anyone recommend some good source material on the 1970s so I can get the feel of the era right? The movie 'The Ice Storm,' I think nailed the period's atmosphere pretty well. Jim Lileks 'Interior Desecrators' has the aesthetic. But I want to get how people talked, how they thought, what they ate right.

Posted by: V the K at January 20, 2016 08:53 AM (O7MnT)

220 212 When the Democrats are in the majority they get what they want,when the Republicans are in the majority,the Democrats get what they want.

Posted by: steevy at January 20, 2016 08:53 AM (8HTq1)

221 172 I see DeBolshevik will claim victory against the handsome cab industry... he's managed to put exactly 50% of the cabbies and their horses out of business.

Not only that, but moving them out of the current west side stables, and making the land available for development - which many believe is the real motivation behind eliminating the carriage trade.

Is the NYPD mounted unit moving out of their current stables, as well?

Posted by: Fox2! at January 20, 2016 08:53 AM (brIR5)

222 combine Islamic supremacism with a supine European political correctness, and you get what you got

the EUniks *wanted* this

they're as much a culture of death as Islam

hence, their mutually fatal embrace

Posted by: Feh at January 20, 2016 08:53 AM (/7QNF)

223 If we're going to have rabid fights between people who support Trump and who-unfortauntaly call Trump supporters ass**** and other names, and those who in turn psychoanalyze the people who called them "ass***** and say things like "You're really envious of Donald Trump, aren't you" (with no evidence) it's going to be a loooong time until the election.

Maybe-until it's shown otherwise-we could assume the best of political supporters and that yes, there are some fervent political supporters on both sides of the Trump/Cruz divide-some of who sound like they're into the cult of personality and some who are not and that it doesn't automatically make you and evil person because you do or do not support Trump.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2016 08:54 AM (w4NZ8)

224 Rome fell to the Turks?


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 20, 2016 08:54 AM (1ijHg)

225 How many has Germany taken in? I bet they try to make all the countries take more in than they agreed to. I get tired of hearing that the US takes in to few immigrants. We take in a million a year plus the future family reunifications plus the illegals. Some idiot says we should take 50 x more a year. Right. 50 million immigrants a year. Even for one year would destroy us.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 20, 2016 08:54 AM (iQIUe)

226 Posted by: V the K at January 20, 2016 08:49 AM

That is certainly possible but I think it will be someone so terrifying that no one will even dream about bumping him off. Like W did with Cheney. I think it may be Sessions.

Posted by: Lester at January 20, 2016 08:55 AM (2UPXV)

227 V the K

depends which 1970s, suburban or urban, and which part of the country

watch movies and television from that time

Posted by: Feh at January 20, 2016 08:55 AM (/7QNF)

228 "I can't help wondering, frankly, if it has something to do with my race."

Only if he believes that his failings are caused by something inherent to being Black.

Or, Half Black.

Or Half white.




Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2016 08:55 AM (ptqRm)

229 Germany Initiates Poster Campaign to Fight Groping, Rape and Public Pooping


http://tinyurl.com/j8bbnyc


Is a poster campaign greater than a hashtag movement?

Sternly worded letter?


Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 20, 2016 08:55 AM (fWAjv)

230 212 - The long run for conservatives looks pretty damn bleak no matter who gets elected, seeds of that were sown long ago.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 20, 2016 08:56 AM (MbrzC)

231 "Even for one year would destroy us."

you catch on quick, grasshopper...

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 20, 2016 08:56 AM (YZH0v)

232 Posted by: spypeach at January 20, 2016 08:47 AM (nyYhO)

Trump is Obama with funny hair.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 20, 2016 08:56 AM (Zu3d9)

233 226 Cheney was actually quite a moderate until the post 9/11 press decided to name him Satan.

Posted by: steevy at January 20, 2016 08:56 AM (8HTq1)

234 206 @191

Disagree. The GOPe is now as big a threat to "us" as the Democrat Party. They do not believe in conservatism any more than the Rats. They are in league.

As long as the D.C. Establishment is running things we'll never get our nation sorted out.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 20, 2016 08:50 AM (oS52a)


Hence the need to use whatever means at the disposal of the Executive Branch to neuter the bureaucracy. Since all those agencies in theory fall under the rubric of the Executive Branch, shouldn't POTUS have the power to executive order most or all out of existence?

In the real Constitutional world, this may not be so, but SCOAMF has laid the groundwork for this. And of course everyone would go nuts if Cruz/Trump actually issued executive orders abolishing the IRS and EPA.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:56 AM (zLP1L)

235 Until that one I almost thought you were being serious.

I am serious that he may be making a calculation that choosing a woman would neutralize the line of attack that he's sexist. Of course, once he secures the nomination, he may just as easily flip back to being pro-abortion, which he was until about ten minutes ago.

The suggestion of Ann Coulter was a bit tongue-in-cheek, but right now, she's his biggest cheerleader. Maybe he'll make her his Press Secretary.

Posted by: V the K at January 20, 2016 08:57 AM (O7MnT)

236 I think it may be Sessions.

Posted by: Lester at January 20, 2016 08:55 AM (2UPXV)
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I don't think Jeff want's that job, I could be wrong.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 20, 2016 08:57 AM (MbrzC)

237 128 And in more B'More breaking news, an individual has been shot.


This time, the suspect is rather large.


http://tinyurl.com/jyzmp2u





Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2016 08:24 AM (ptqRm)

Yes, I guess the mall got tired of being walked all over all the time. (Do journalism students learn English? Where was his editor?)

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at January 20, 2016 08:57 AM (RD7QR)

238 Despite his bluster, he will be co-opted by the GOPe in a way I dont think Cruz will be.


Until Cruz has his very own FU money, he is already co-opted by the GOPe.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 20, 2016 08:57 AM (ct0K5)

239 224 The Eastern empire did,which was the last vestige of the "real" empire.

Posted by: steevy at January 20, 2016 08:58 AM (8HTq1)

240
Actually, aegis is more accurate than rubric.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:58 AM (zLP1L)

241 *pulls from shelf At Close Quarters*

Jan 28th
Gen. Mark Clark aboard PT-201 and escorted by PT-216 were on another run to Anzio in the early morning. The minesweeper USS Sway had been warned Axis aircraft were attacking Anzio and the captain expected a coordinated E-boat attack.

The two American PT boats approached the minesweeper at a high rate of speed and challenged them to identify themselves. PT-201 replied with a 6-inch signal light that was not seen because the low sun was directly behind the boat. Fearing his ship was being attacked, captain of USS Sway ordered his guns to open fire. PT-201 then fired a flare that was again lost in the bright sun. Then gunfire hit PT-201 as the boat reduced speed. The hit to the wheelhouse injured 201's skipper Lt. Patterson, his second officer, and another man while one bluejacket and an officer passenger were killed.

According to the Peter Tares, Gen. Clark then said "Let's get the hell out of here." Though Clark in his biography recorded it differently as "Well, lets run for it."

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 20, 2016 08:58 AM (lJ28Y)

242 Maybe he'll make her his Press Secretary.

Posted by: V the K at January 20, 2016 08:57 AM (O7MnT)
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Now that I could actually see, and I could see her wanting the job, if nothing else then to do it for year just as revenge on the MSM.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 20, 2016 08:58 AM (MbrzC)

243 I have too much respect forTrump's integrity to believe he would choose a man he labeled "a maniac" (Cruz) as his VP. /s

However Cruz is obviously a man with no pride whatsoever. /s Therefore, I'm SURE that Cruz would just fn JUMP at a chance to be copilot for Dr. Screwloose! /s

The best VP for Trump would be OJ, because he's yuuge too.

Posted by: mnw at January 20, 2016 08:58 AM (NiHAc)

244 IMO, it would not hurt Trump to start lightening up a bit on the bombastic hucksterism in his campaign and mixing in a little, shall we say, more substance. Palin's endorsement will not help with that.

Posted by: RM at January 20, 2016 08:58 AM (U3LtS)

245 Andy: I blame the central time zone.

Wasn't us!

* looks to Mountain Time *

Morning, Glories!

Posted by: mindful webworker - up & atom at January 20, 2016 08:58 AM (nMj2X)

246
I think if Cruz does win it all, he will pick Sessions.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 08:58 AM (zLP1L)

247 "everyone would go nuts if Cruz/Trump actually issued executive orders abolishing the IRS and EPA"

you sure about that?

I think there'd be parades and happy drinking for weeks

Posted by: Feh at January 20, 2016 08:59 AM (/7QNF)

248 When Donald realizes how hard it is just to build a wall or do the things he says he wants to do, he will re-discover The Art of the Deal and tell us that we dont understand how business gets done in government.

There's another possibility, that he takes the door off the hinges that Obama already opened, and just starts acting on his own whether it's constitutional or not.

You want an Andrew Jackson? You'll get an Andrew Jackson.

And, no, I don't think that's a good thing.

Posted by: AD at January 20, 2016 08:59 AM (uzVds)

249 V the K, watch "Kolchak: Night Stalker". Hard-bitten reporter in the 70s, chasing X-Files-like stories. It only lasted one season, I watched it all on Netflix (not sure if it's still available), and the best part was checking out the habits from when I was a kid. Lots of smoking, telephones that are only telephones, casual references that would be deemed waaaay too sexist for today, fun show.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 20, 2016 08:59 AM (2cS/G)

250 I'd bet that the Palin endorsement is a net negative for Trump

Posted by: Feh at January 20, 2016 08:59 AM (/7QNF)

251 Hence the need to use whatever means at the disposal of the Executive Branch to neuter the bureaucracy. Since all those agencies in theory fall under the rubric of the Executive Branch, shouldn't POTUS have the power to executive order most or all out of existence?


If the Constitution or an Amendment doesn't specifically authorize it, yes.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 20, 2016 09:00 AM (ct0K5)

252 http://preview.tinyurl.com/hwss5w7

zh: Russian embassy in Kabul bombed by ISIS.

Interesting thing for me is that the Russian's have an embassy in Kabul.

Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2016 09:00 AM (ZbV+0)

253
BTW: I have an idea for a time-travel novel. Can anyone recommend some good source material on the 1970s so I can get the feel of the era right? The movie 'The Ice Storm,' I think nailed the period's atmosphere pretty well. Jim Lileks 'Interior Desecrators' has the aesthetic. But I want to get how people talked, how they thought, what they ate right.


Try Report From Engine Co. 82 by Dennis Smith. It's a 1972 book that takes place in the busiest fire station in NYC, in the middle of the South Bronx. Smith wrote it - it's really a memoir - while working at the station.

http://goo.gl/FFkil2

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 20, 2016 09:00 AM (X6fMO)

254 Once an R is president the branches will suddenly be equal again.

Posted by: steevy at January 20, 2016 09:00 AM (8HTq1)

255 225 How many has Germany taken in? I bet they try to make all the countries take more in than they agreed to. I get tired of hearing that the US takes in to few immigrants. We take in a million a year plus the future family reunifications plus the illegals. Some idiot says we should take 50 x more a year. Right. 50 million immigrants a year. Even for one year would destroy us.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 20, 2016 08:54 AM (iQIUe)

-------------------------------

Stuff is going to get real this year and next. The flow of people to the Western world will not stop. And most of the leadership of those countries are ideologically bound (by self loathing) to let them in.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 20, 2016 09:01 AM (LXJ1e)

256 Posted by: AD at January 20, 2016 08:59 AM (uzVds)

Bingo!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 20, 2016 09:01 AM (Zu3d9)

257 J.J. Sefton: ONE
YEAR
LEFT


What could go wrong?

Posted by: mindful webworker - up & atom at January 20, 2016 09:01 AM (nMj2X)

258 >>>>You want an Andrew Jackson? You'll get an Andrew Jackson.



And, no, I don't think that's a good thing.
.
.
.Hey he beat the British at the Battle of New Orleans. At least according to Johnny Horton.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2016 09:01 AM (iONHu)

259 I'm sure Cruz's rally today with Glenn Beck will give him a YUUUUUGE boost, JJ.

I'm going to do a David Bowie tribute set today. Tickets are still available!

Posted by: Jeb! at January 20, 2016 09:01 AM (+c55T)

260 And now some of those same people are all in for Ted Cruz....

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 20, 2016 08:53 AM (ZPz7d)


Wow.

You do realize that personal/political beliefs make a huge difference here, don't you?

Obama could've been born a straight up citizen of Africa and yet made a magnificent President if he were a strong conservative

instead of Daddyissues von Corruptington-McCommietard.


Look at our own "chique" here at the HQ-

I would've much rather had her as Prez instead of Obama.

And in no way shape or form would she be considered a natural born citizen.

This line of argument is just silly.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2016 09:02 AM (KUa85)

261 In the real Constitutional world, this may not be so, but SCOAMF has laid the groundwork for this. And of course everyone would go nuts if Cruz/Trump actually issued executive orders abolishing the IRS and EPA.

The president may not be able to abolish them at the stroke of a pen. But with a cooperative Congress, it would be possible to reduce the IRS to collecting taxes and completely neuter their law enforcement authority. Simplifying the tax code with a fair tax or a flat tax would scope the IRS back even further. And the EPA could be reduced back to its original limited mission.

Posted by: V the K at January 20, 2016 09:02 AM (O7MnT)

262 247 "everyone would go nuts if Cruz/Trump actually issued executive orders abolishing the IRS and EPA"

you sure about that?

I think there'd be parades and happy drinking for weeks
Posted by: Feh at January 20, 2016 08:59 AM (/7QNF)


By "everyone" I meant the usual suspects.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 09:02 AM (zLP1L)

263 Can anyone recommend some good source material on the 1970s so I can get the feel of the era right?

You'd better not be on my lawn.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 20, 2016 09:02 AM (oVJmc)

264 shouldn't POTUS have the power to executive order most or all out of existence?
---
Well if created by congress, then they must be destroyed by congress. That said, outside of every specified position that must exist by statute you could gut the living hell out of them, fire some, never replace others that retire etc. Everyone would scream bloody murder but you could in theory do it I think. You'd have to move fast though cause the legislative folks would wake up from their slumber and start passing veto proof paperwork to stop you.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 20, 2016 09:02 AM (MbrzC)

265 And I think it was one year after the Anzio breakout that Gen. Lucien Truscott turned his back on the official delegation, that included at least one Congress-critter, and apologized to all the men who were buried there.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 20, 2016 09:02 AM (lJ28Y)

266 Explosion at the Russian embassy in Kabul and the market's down a lot again. Today should be fun.

Posted by: AD at January 20, 2016 09:03 AM (uzVds)

267 Right. 50 million immigrants a year. Even for one year would destroy us.

Hmm.... And I have one year left, you say?

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at January 20, 2016 09:03 AM (+c55T)

268 @224
> Rome fell to the Turks?

Constantinople, 1453. I should have specified that I meant the empire, not the city. Apologies for being unclear.

Posted by: Blackbutt the Pirate at January 20, 2016 09:03 AM (VOlXq)

269 263 Can anyone recommend some good source material on the 1970s so I can get the feel of the era right?

You'd better not be on my lawn.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel


Call his mom before he even makes it home!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 20, 2016 09:03 AM (ct0K5)

270 219 BTW: I have an idea for a time-travel novel. Can anyone recommend some good source material on the 1970s so I can get the feel of the era right? The movie 'The Ice Storm,' I think nailed the period's atmosphere pretty well. Jim Lileks 'Interior Desecrators' has the aesthetic. But I want to get how people talked, how they thought, what they ate right.
Posted by: V the K at January 20, 2016 08:53 AM (O7MnT)

-------------------

Go to the Retrospace blog. Gilligan can help you out.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 20, 2016 09:03 AM (LXJ1e)

271 257 J.J. Sefton: ONE
YEAR
LEFT

What could go wrong?


Posted by: mindful webworker - up & atom at January 20, 2016 09:01 AM (nMj2X)


Considering the two front runners are Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders, it's already gone tits up. Then again, we've had a full fledged Marxist as POTUS for two terms so that ship sailed long ago.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 09:03 AM (zLP1L)

272 219

Movies that capture the 70s:

Dog Day Afternoon
Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 (not the Travolta remake)
Dazed and Confused
Annie Hall

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 20, 2016 09:03 AM (EZebt)

273 Interesting thing for me is that the Russian's have an embassy in Kabul.

Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2016 09:00 AM (ZbV+0)
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Yeah, I wasn't aware of that either.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 20, 2016 09:04 AM (MbrzC)

274 MrScribbler: Wonder how many decades it will take to repair the damage Choom Boy can do in just this final year?

Le Deluge (Bill Whittle)
https://youtu.be/DdaLIDaMuSo

Posted by: mindful webworker - alas at January 20, 2016 09:04 AM (nMj2X)

275 265 And I think it was one year after the Anzio breakout that Gen. Lucien Truscott turned his back on the official delegation, that included at least one Congress-critter, and apologized to all the men who were buried there.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 20, 2016 09:02 AM (lJ28Y)


Yes. I saw an interview with Bill Mauldin who witnessed the event and he could barely speak without sobbing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 09:04 AM (zLP1L)

276 Rome fell to the Turks?




Posted by: Grampa Jimbo


*****

Which really rankled Mark Clark, 'cause he felt like he deserved to be there first.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 20, 2016 09:04 AM (NeFrd)

277 Can anyone recommend some good source material on the 1970s so I can get the feel of the era right?


Eagles, Yes, Rush, Boston, Kansas, Disco, with New Wave at the end of it.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 20, 2016 09:04 AM (evdj2)

278 And of course everyone would go nuts if Cruz/Trump actually issued executive orders abolishing the IRS and EPA.
---
Do they even need to formally abolish the agency?

Couldn't they just fire everyone and not replace them?

Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2016 09:05 AM (ZbV+0)

279 with a cooperative Congress, it would be possible to reduce the IRS to collecting taxes and completely neuter their law enforcement authority. Simplifying the tax code with a fair tax or a flat tax would scope the IRS back even further. And the EPA could be reduced back to its original limited mission.

+111111111111111111111

Posted by: Feh at January 20, 2016 09:05 AM (/7QNF)

280 "I can't help wondering, frankly, if it has something to do with my race."
________________________

When you're a race-obsessed idiot like Obama, you can trip over your own dick and you'll say exactly the same thing.

Anything bad that has ever happened to Obama is because of his race. And anything good that has happened to him is because he's so brilliant and gorgeous and talented and special. Has nothing to do with his race. When the liberal media fawns all over him, it's never about his race. When voters in early primary states were voting for him in 2008, it had nothing to do with his race. When the Nobel committee gave him a Peace prize, it had nothing to do with his race.

Obama reminds me of an article I read once about Halle Berry. In it she was whining about all the raaaaaacism she's had to deal with her entire life. She was a cheerleader and one of the homecoming princesses in high school, but she would have been the queen, but for the raaaaacist students. She won some beauty contests, but lost others, but she would have won them all, if not for the raaaaaacist judges. She got some good roles in movies, but she should have gotten every role she ever tried out for, and she would have done, if not for raaaaaacist casting directors. She was nominated for awards, and she won some but lost others, but she should have won them all, and would have done, if not for raaaaaacist voters. On and on and one like that. Every good thing in her life was because she earned it or deserved it; every bad thing was because of raaaaaacism. Never occurred to her that occasionally, somebody else might have worked harder or jumped higher or been prettier or more popular or better suited to a role she wanted. No, the only conceivable reason that she could ever lose out was because she was a victim of raaaaaacism!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 20, 2016 09:05 AM (a31sM)

281 Thanks MP4. I will do that.

Hm. If the non-time-traveling character were a firefighter that would make him more interesting. Did they say 'firefighter' in 1974 or was it still 'fireman?'

Posted by: V the K at January 20, 2016 09:05 AM (O7MnT)

282 i am dreading the next year, between the elections and our determination to be as ugly to eachother rather than who really deserves all our hate, and Obama will certainly try to facilitate all progressive dreams coming true without anyone stopping him..

so anyway happy new year guys and gals, i hope we remain thick as thieves and will have eachothers back no matter how evil it is.

Posted by: willow at January 20, 2016 09:05 AM (nIGPZ)

283 Can anyone recommend some good source material on the 1970s so I can get the feel of the era right?

Do you have a leisure suit?

Posted by: t-bird at January 20, 2016 09:06 AM (+c55T)

284 I bet they try to make all the countries take more in than they agreed to.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 20, 2016 08:54 AM

They already have been doing that. Now they are "threatening" the UK via the EU. It didn't work because first Hungary said GFY, then the Poles, Danes, Swiss, Czecks, Italians, etc. And France was too but quietly. The Italians are going to negotiate for energy directly with Putin and cut out "middleman" Germany so everything has gone sideways. Her brilliant economy is crashing. No one will obey Merkel or her flunkies in Brussells. She lost control of the "kids". She is essentially paying Turkey to send more. I'm trying to think of ways she could screw up more than she has and I can't. Maybe if the Germans start shooting at the Austrians and French this summer would top what she has already done.

Posted by: Lester at January 20, 2016 09:07 AM (2UPXV)

285 Can anyone recommend some good source material on the 1970s so I can get the feel of the era right?

The Rockford Files.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at January 20, 2016 09:07 AM (eytER)

286 The 70's were the 60's at the start, with the 80's at the end. Or as I like to say, that brief shining period between The Pill and AIDS.

God times, good times.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 20, 2016 09:07 AM (evdj2)

287 God Times? err definitely not.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 20, 2016 09:07 AM (evdj2)

288
Movies that capture the 70s:

Dog Day Afternoon
Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 (not the Travolta remake)
Dazed and Confused
Annie Hall


I have seen 'Dazed and Confused.' I could never get through Annie Hall... and I've tried. Believe me, I've tried.

What about California in the 70's?

Posted by: V the K at January 20, 2016 09:08 AM (O7MnT)

289 That said, outside of every specified position that must exist by statute you could gut the living hell out of them, fire some, never replace others that retire etc.


Thought of this yesterday. Management usually is NOT union.

Since the head of an agency serves at the pleasure of the President, appoint someone from the rank and file.

Fire them the next day. Appoint someone new. Fire them. Appoint someone new. Fire them. You have 365 days per year x4.

You could seriously gut an agency.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 20, 2016 09:08 AM (ct0K5)

290 Denis Leary used to do a bit on why there was so much sex in the 70's.People wanted to get out of those ugly clothes.The shoes were even worse.

Posted by: steevy at January 20, 2016 09:08 AM (8HTq1)

291 I can't help wondering, frankly, if it has something to do with my race.

Which one? You're "diverse", remember.

Posted by: t-bird at January 20, 2016 09:08 AM (+c55T)

292 I would bet on Fireman. Might as well watch Emergency! while at it.

https://youtu.be/cZ3ZHROazv4

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 20, 2016 09:09 AM (lJ28Y)

293 Then again, we've had a full fledged Marxist as POTUS for two terms so that ship sailed long ago.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2016 09:03 AM (zLP1L)
---
Which is why I don't entirely discount the Bern as some easy layup, entirely beatable but nothing is a sure thing, particularly even "unforeseen" economic events happen and uncle Bern is promising a new utopia of free-sh1t.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 20, 2016 09:09 AM (MbrzC)

294 I really want a Trump/Sessions ticket.

Put Jeff in charge of immigration and judicial appointments.

Posted by: nick in south bend at January 20, 2016 09:09 AM (H43MS)

295 The Bush Crusade is over. King Barry withdrew forces and disembarked in shame leaving the whole of the European continent to the Mussulmen invaders.

King Barry's shame will be his legacy.

Posted by: Fritz at January 20, 2016 09:10 AM (UzPAd)

296 And on a non political note, what is the largest snow anyone remembers? 1996 had some large ones. I recall one of about two feet, and I was annoyed because I was to be interviewed for ordination and it had to be cancelled because of the snow. That meant instead of getting the day long interview with about 60 people in different committees all asking questions about your paperwork over with the interview had to be done at another time.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2016 09:10 AM (w4NZ8)

297 Milt, i have already heard good whipers towards Bernie from a few friends.

i find this alarming as hell.

i mean really! ( I actually said that to one of them)
dumb jerks

Posted by: willow at January 20, 2016 09:11 AM (nIGPZ)

298
Did they say 'firefighter' in 1974 or was it still 'fireman?'

Pretty sure it was still "fireman."

I think you'll like the book a lot. The FSA was in full force, even then.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 20, 2016 09:12 AM (X6fMO)

299 A quote from Ann Althouse:*

"And so, at long last, what Hillary did to women matters. Women aren't Hillary's natural constituency, we're her victims."


Ow. That one is going to smart.


*Yes, yes we all know she voted for Obama once - the quote is just so delightful I wanted to share it.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 20, 2016 09:12 AM (hLRSq)

300 Posted by: willow at January 20, 2016 09:05 AM (nIGPZ)

I agree with you and appreciate your thoughts in your second paragraph.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2016 09:12 AM (w4NZ8)

301 Couldn't they just fire everyone and not replace them?

Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2016 09:05 AM (ZbV+0)
---
Most positions yes, they'd technically have to leave some skeletons to technically comply with statutory positions and the courts would probably argue some level of staff would have to be kept to keep with statutory requirements of the agency (so long as congress had funded said requirements). Bottom line if one had the will one could take a very serious bite out of many agencies size,scope, and enforcement ability.


Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 20, 2016 09:13 AM (MbrzC)

302 And on a non political note, what is the largest snow anyone remembers?

Denver, 1982. Official tally was three feet, though there were some drifts that topped the roof of my house.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at January 20, 2016 09:13 AM (PFy0L)

303 Fenelon, i shall certainly have yours if you need it.

Posted by: willow at January 20, 2016 09:14 AM (nIGPZ)

304 And on a non political note, what is the largest snow anyone remembers?



A couple of times in the 70's in St. Louis.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 20, 2016 09:14 AM (ct0K5)

305 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2016 08:24 AM (ptqRm)

Yes, I guess the mall got tired of being walked all over all the time. (Do journalism students learn English? Where was his editor?)

Posted by: joncelli, getting it out of his system at January 20, 2016 08:57 AM (RD7QR)


I did all of my Christmas shopping at that mall this year. Glad it didn't shoot me!

Just kidding, there is no way in hell I'd go anywhere near that place. That's where the rioting started in April...

Posted by: Timon at January 20, 2016 09:14 AM (KSonr)

306 King Barry's shame will be his legacy.
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What shame?

He wants us all enslaved to the global caliphate.

Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2016 09:15 AM (ZbV+0)

307 Couldn't they just fire everyone and not replace them?

Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2016 09:05 AM (ZbV+0)
---
Most positions yes, they'd technically have to leave some skeletons to technically comply with statutory positions and the courts would probably argue some level of staff would have to be kept to keep with statutory requirements of the agency (so long as congress had funded said requirements). Bottom line if one had the will one could take a very serious bite out of many agencies size,scope, and enforcement ability.


Posted by: ThisBeingMilt



See #289.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 20, 2016 09:15 AM (ct0K5)

308 And wasn't last year just an incredible amount of snow of mostly snowy Buffalo.? They had drifts of ten feet or more, I recall.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2016 09:16 AM (w4NZ8)

309 Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 20, 2016 09:13 AM (MbrzC)


Pay scales could also be reset downward

to better reflect the actual market value of the mostly clerical work done by the bulk of workers in these agencies.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2016 09:16 AM (KUa85)

310 And on a non political note, what is the largest
snow anyone remembers? 1996 had some large ones. I recall one of about
two feet....

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2016 09:10 AM


Last year was the snowiest, at least for me.

The total was over ten feet, and I believe there was a day (or more?) when we had a foot or so in one day. There was a short-lived no-driving order, and the plows were running 24/7 for a time. Messy. Cold, too.

Of course when you spent the majority of your life in SoCal, any amount of snow is incomprehensible....

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 20, 2016 09:16 AM (ZPz7d)

311 Posted by: willow at January 20, 2016 09:14 AM (nIGPZ)

Thanks; I appreciate that.

And I feel the same way about you..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2016 09:17 AM (w4NZ8)

312 OK, enough of the Trump/Cruz slapfight. We need a poll on predicting the date of Hilldog's indictment.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 20, 2016 09:17 AM (u5gzz)

313
And on a non political note, what is the largest snow anyone remembers?

The blizzard of '78.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 20, 2016 09:17 AM (X6fMO)

314 largest snow sometime in 1976, three to four feet

couldn't open the patio door

Posted by: Feh at January 20, 2016 09:17 AM (/7QNF)

315 Your morning smile


http://tinyurl.com/ztwhtae


An A-10 spots a Taliban motorcycle gang travelling down a dirt road, and absolutely annihilates them with no remorse.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 20, 2016 09:18 AM (fWAjv)

316 Posted by: willow at January 20, 2016 09:14 AM (nIGPZ)

Thanks; I appreciate that.

And I feel the same way about you..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2016 09:17 AM (w4NZ


Go back to read the context, or just go with the Moron Standard Interpretation? Decisions, decisions...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 20, 2016 09:18 AM (9krrF)

317 How goes your writing Brother Cavil?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 20, 2016 09:18 AM (lJ28Y)

318 Pay scales could also be reset downward



to better reflect the actual market value of the mostly clerical work done by the bulk of workers in these agencies.
---
The dems want $15 an hour for everyone?

Hmm, gotta start somewhere.

Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2016 09:19 AM (ZbV+0)

319 >>>>Do they even need to formally abolish the agency?

Couldn't they just fire everyone and not replace them?


Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2016 09:05 AM (ZbV+0)
...Actually no. Civil Service employees are not "at will" employees after their probation period and can't be fired without cause.

You would have to get Congress to change or kill the Civil Service Act and it's amendments to do that.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2016 09:19 AM (iONHu)

320 We need a poll on predicting the date of Hilldog's indictment.

The 12th of Never?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 20, 2016 09:19 AM (oVJmc)

321 Oh and 29 hour work weeks because obamacare.

Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2016 09:19 AM (ZbV+0)

322 I don't know how it is in other parts of the country but here folks (the townships or individuals or companies) are banning people from sledding. I guess they don't want lawsuits if someone gets hurt but there are fewer and fewer places to sled, which was always one of the fun things about being a kid in winter.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2016 09:20 AM (w4NZ8)

323 cavil, we went outside the moron box and were actually backing each up as souls united in eachothers survival.

so....mind.out.of.gutter!

Posted by: willow at January 20, 2016 09:20 AM (nIGPZ)

324 ...Actually no. Civil Service employees are not "at will" employees
after their probation period and can't be fired without cause.


Can we hand them brooms and send them out to sweep the streets?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 20, 2016 09:20 AM (oVJmc)

325 I took the hit to my Fine Upstanding Well I'm Standing Moron status and went back for the context.

Mornin' Horde. See what happens when you check in after eight?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 20, 2016 09:21 AM (9krrF)

326
I think if Cruz does win it all, he will pick Sessions.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton



No. I'd pick Rick Moranis, eh?

Posted by: Ted Cruz - Not Canadian

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 20, 2016 09:21 AM (kdS6q)

327 And on a non political note, what is the largest snow anyone remembers?

I remember that in the Blizzard of 1978 the snowdrifts were over my head. I was a little kid, but still.

Posted by: V the K at January 20, 2016 09:21 AM (O7MnT)

328 Welcome back, willow !

Absolutely right about "our determination to be as ugly to each other rather than who really deserves all our hate". I already find it too much to take sometimes, only problem is the rest of the intertubes is worse.

Hurray for the Horde anyway !

And all hail Pixy and Minx 0.7 alpha !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 20, 2016 09:21 AM (Z8DIA)

329 And now some of those same people are all in for Ted Cruz....
Posted by: MrScribbler at January 20, 2016 08:53 AM (ZPz7d)


Wow. If Cruz is Obama, who is Hillary?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 20, 2016 09:21 AM (q2o38)

330 302 - I had four feet in Lake Mohawk in the drive way, (5' in drifts elsewhere), NJ in the early nineties during a massive noreaster, it was crazy, I'm guessing it was 93' might have been 94' though. That was the most snow I'd seen since some massive storm when I was small child in Port Chester ny, I'm guessing it was between 79-81'ish when we got like 3+' in the yard and drifts above that. Oh man was the sledding in the back yard great that year (we had a huge yard with very large hill). Ahhh to be young again - when you could really enjoy the snow. lol

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 20, 2016 09:22 AM (MbrzC)

331 If time travel is possible in your novel and the machine is in capable hands, the travelers would just skip the 70s.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 20, 2016 09:22 AM (1xUj/)

332 We need a poll on predicting the date of Hilldog's indictment.

When/if Bernie looks viable.

Posted by: AD at January 20, 2016 09:22 AM (uzVds)

333 Hillary! has a super villain name: The Cankler

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 20, 2016 09:22 AM (lJ28Y)

334 How goes your writing Brother Cavil?

Some progress. Still hitting brick walls with some of the characters. May switch to a short subject. Everything went on hold during That Crap the last couple of weeks. I should really get back to it sometime.

Seriously, worldbuilding is easy, characters, those are hard.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 20, 2016 09:22 AM (9krrF)

335 sock_rat_eez, sit by me, we will persevere! Hopefully with sanity at least redeemable., if not always present.

Posted by: willow at January 20, 2016 09:23 AM (nIGPZ)

336 If Cruz is Obama, who is Hillary?

Cruz is Obama, except for actually having the knowledge and experience they pretended Obama had.

And an actual record in other offices, and actual accomplishments.

And not being a Marxist mole.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 20, 2016 09:23 AM (oVJmc)

337 osted by: Kindltot at January 20, 2016 09:21 AM (q2o3

An Anglo Empress Wu?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2016 09:24 AM (w4NZ8)

338 320 We need a poll on predicting the date of Hilldog's indictment.

The 12th of Never?
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 20, 2016 09:19 AM (oVJmc)

That's what I thought, too, until recently. With the stories being leaked now it appears there's strong support from intelligence types to indict the bitch. I've started believing it's possible.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 20, 2016 09:24 AM (u5gzz)

339 Actually no. Civil Service employees are not "at will" employees

after their probation period and can't be fired without cause.
---
Could Andrew Jackson do it?

Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2016 09:24 AM (ZbV+0)

340
Hillary Clinton Is In Big Trouble
Fred Barnes, Wall Street Journal

National Polls Show It's Still Clear Sailing for Clinton
Charlie Cook, National Journal



You two girls want to grab a conference room, figure this out and get back to us?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 20, 2016 09:24 AM (kdS6q)

341 ...Actually no. Civil Service employees are not "at will" employees after their probation period and can't be fired without cause.

You would have to get Congress to change or kill the Civil Service Act and it's amendments to do that.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman



Head of an agency serves at the pleasure of the president, correct? Fire, promote from rank and file. Fire, promote from rank and file. Promote, rinse, repeat.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 20, 2016 09:24 AM (ct0K5)

342 And on a non political note, what is the largest snow anyone remembers?

I was in the Twin Cities in '91 for the Halloween Blizzard. Said storm later went on to go all Voltron with a couple of other storm systems and become the so-called "Storm of the Century" of novel and movie fame.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 20, 2016 09:24 AM (9krrF)

343 I don't see Cruz as being anything like Obama.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2016 09:25 AM (w4NZ8)

344 312 OK, enough of the Trump/Cruz slapfight. We need a poll on predicting the date of Hilldog's indictment.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 20, 2016 09:17 AM (u5gzz)
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Besides 'never', put me down for 10$ on January 19th 2017.

Should have poll on a possible pardon date to match this question?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 20, 2016 09:25 AM (MbrzC)

345 >>>>...Actually no. Civil Service employees are not "at will" employees

after their probation period and can't be fired without cause.

Can we hand them brooms and send them out to sweep the streets?
.
.
.Funny you should mention that. We lost our snow plowing contract due to budgetary constraints one year and had to have GS Civilians shovel snow. It was a disaster. The guy with a heart condition volunteered to go out and shovel and people who had no business doing manual labor were out there pulling muscles and falling on the ice. We had over a dozen workers comp claims that winter. They found the funds to renew the contract quickly after that.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2016 09:25 AM (iONHu)

346 grabs Bandersnatch's tie, tugs it.. just where are you hiding alex?, and she better be happy in her hideydom.

Posted by: willow at January 20, 2016 09:25 AM (nIGPZ)

347 I liked the 70's, but I was a kid. .... well.... except for my betters deciding we must be force-fed metrics system because Europe does it and awesome! Heh... I really enjoyed it VERY much when that effort got shit-canned. One of the early reinforcement episodes when my judgement was affirmed.

Posted by: Yip at January 20, 2016 09:25 AM (e7T6D)

348 We need a poll on predicting the date of Hilldog's indictment.



Call Vegas.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 20, 2016 09:25 AM (ct0K5)

349 302 And on a non political note, what is the largest snow anyone remembers?
Denver, 1982. Official tally was three feet, though there were some drifts that topped the roof of my house.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at January 20, 2016 09:13 AM (PFy0L)


The day before Christmas.
Followed up by another 2 feet on Easter.
I moved here to Colorado on the 24th. Very memorable.

Posted by: jwb7605 at January 20, 2016 09:26 AM (DofIg)

350 OK, enough of the Trump/Cruz slapfight. We need a poll on predicting the date of Hilldog's indictment.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 20, 2016 09:17 AM (u5gzz)



This may be where the Dims get their own taste of dealing with King Putt the Community Organizing Sociopath.

Clearly, the best and easiest thing to do since the MSM will go along is for Obama-

to call this all a GOP witch-hunt and straight up pardon her.

That takes the uncertainties out of the system.

But, disrupting certainties and tightening his control is what TFG is all about, so

any pardon for Hillary! comes at the last possible moment in his Presidency if it comes at all.

In fact, I bet esp. if she loses the general, he let's the indictment go through right before he leaves office

and let's the Reps have to deal with that big ole stink bomb while the MSM criticizes them for not "moving forward and dealing with the real issues of the country"

Yep.

I can totally see that.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2016 09:26 AM (KUa85)

351 "You would have to get Congress to change or kill the Civil Service Act and it's amendments to do that.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2016 09:19 AM (iONHu)


We will call the repeal the "The Lois Lerner Civil Service Act" because we want to honor women.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 20, 2016 09:27 AM (hLRSq)

352 Trump offering the Vice President slot to Cruz would be as crazy as Reagan offering the position to George H.W.Bush after his "voodoo economics" remark.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at January 20, 2016 09:27 AM (QHgTq)

353 Brother Cavil, wait until the characters become fleshed out and then fold their arms while telling you 'no, not going to do that.'

I was about 39k words in before I figured out my bad-guy's big plan. He's very crafty and sneaky. Still trying to write towards an end that keeps fluctuating because the characters insist on doing things. At 54,800 words and originally only expected this to be a 60k word story, I might have under-estimated.

Here are some writing contests
http://preview.tinyurl.com/jo6r2u9

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 20, 2016 09:27 AM (lJ28Y)

354 Besides 'never', put me down for 10$ on January 19th 2017.

Should have poll on a possible pardon date to match this question?



Jan 20th, 2017 @ 10:30 am Eastern.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 20, 2016 09:27 AM (ct0K5)

355 See #289.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 20, 2016 09:15 AM (ct0K5)
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I like the way you think.

Though after the first couple dozen I think they would catch on and not accept the position.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 20, 2016 09:28 AM (MbrzC)

356 "Seriously, worldbuilding is easy, characters, those are hard."

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 20, 2016 09:22 AM (9krrF)


You already know all the characters you will ever need for your books. You grew up with them, see them everyday, interact with them on this website.

We're the most fascinating characters there are.

All you have to do is write it all down.

Posted by: jwest at January 20, 2016 09:28 AM (Zs4uk)

357 We will call the repeal the "The Lois Lerner Civil Service Act" because we want to honor women.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quench Your Fires with Ice Scream at the Outrage Outlet! at January 20, 2016 09:27 AM (hLRSq)


oooh very nice

Posted by: willow at January 20, 2016 09:28 AM (nIGPZ)

358 We need a poll on predicting the date of Hilldog's indictment.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 20, 2016 09:17 AM


The day after I win a monstro Powerball jackpot.

Certainly no sooner. Democratium gives her invulnerability.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 20, 2016 09:28 AM (ZPz7d)

359 grabs Bandersnatch's tie, tugs it.. just where are you hiding alex?, and she better be happy in her hideydom.
Posted by: willow


*waves at willow*


She's coming to visit me next month and I'm quite happy about that.

Naturally, this comes up in a willowed thread.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 20, 2016 09:29 AM (1xUj/)

360 Morning dump nood.

Posted by: Dead Parrot Society at January 20, 2016 09:29 AM (AJeMv)

361 Posted by: Yip at January 20, 2016 09:25 AM (e7T6D)

Hi, Yip-How did you and buddies like 13 Hours?. Did it change any minds of the progressives?.

If you posted this already, I didn't see it

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2016 09:29 AM (w4NZ8)

362 Can anyone recommend some good source material on the 1970s so I can get the feel of the era right?

That 70's show.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 20, 2016 09:30 AM (khWYc)

363 339 Actually no. Civil Service employees are not "at will" employees

after their probation period and can't be fired without cause.
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Could Andrew Jackson do it?

Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2016 09:24 AM (ZbV+0)
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Where there is a will, there is a way.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 20, 2016 09:30 AM (MbrzC)

364 What is the Face Book? A series of tubes?

Posted by: Bernie at January 20, 2016 09:30 AM (UBS9M)

365 She's coming to visit me next month and I'm quite happy about that.

Naturally, this comes up in a willowed thread.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 20, 2016 09:29 AM (1xUj/)


drats, what about me!?

anyway give her tons of kisses and hugs from me.

Posted by: willow at January 20, 2016 09:30 AM (nIGPZ)

366 At 54,800 words and originally only expected this to be a 60k word story, I might have under-estimated.

WA Book 12 just crested 150K words.

Posted by: V the K at January 20, 2016 09:31 AM (O7MnT)

367 Oh God. Palin actually said this:

"But the good news is, there is nothing wrong with America that a good ol’ fashioned election can’t fix."

AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH

/flips over tables
/throws chairs

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 20, 2016 09:31 AM (9krrF)

368 nood

Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2016 09:31 AM (ZbV+0)

369 Can we hand them brooms and send them out to sweep the streets?
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 20, 2016 09:20 AM (oVJmc)


That or make them push a button every 17 minutes in a facility with no radio or wifi signal.

After 2 years, all the survivors are discharged and allowed to bid into other positions they qualify for, as the unit has no remaining purpose and is closed.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 20, 2016 09:31 AM (q2o38)

370 "call the repeal the "The Lois Lerner Civil Service Act" because we want to honor women"

yes. very much yes.
politics needs to get its sense of humor back.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 20, 2016 09:32 AM (Z8DIA)

371 re: civil employees. All the Govt' has to do is try to find them (offer them) another job, somewhere in the Govt if their position is no longer a thing. It happens all the time. So first, take law enforcement power away from everyone except the agencies that normally perform LEO responsibilities. ( insert arguing here ). Most folks turn down job offer due to lower pay or having to relocate. Just offer 'em all jobs in Guam... heh

I mean, if the Government, can close entire military bases nationwide because Clinton!... then we can push for massive Federal downsizing... of course, this would be argued to increase funemployment and would clearly disproportionately hit womens and minorities hardest.

Posted by: Yip at January 20, 2016 09:32 AM (e7T6D)

372
Reporter: "Hillary, are you going to see '13 Hours?'"
Hillary: "No, I already slept through it the first time."

Posted by: Stolen from Nick Searcy at January 20, 2016 09:33 AM (O7MnT)

373 politics needs to get its sense of humor back.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 20, 2016 09:32 AM (Z8DIA)
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Have to seen the titles to bill in the last 15 years?
They're like always dead opposite titles to what's actually in the bill. I think it's like an inside joke amongst all the staffers to one-up one another with names being contrary to content.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 20, 2016 09:34 AM (MbrzC)

374 "But the good news is, there is nothing wrong with America that a good ol' fashion election can't fix."

Truth, hope and optimism rolled up in down-home goodness.

Sentences just don't get any better than that.

Posted by: jwest at January 20, 2016 09:35 AM (Zs4uk)

375 Truth, hope and optimism rolled up in down-home goodness.

Sentences just don't get any better than that.


Also completely misses the nature of what we're facing, but then I'm on record as being the doomiest of the LiB crowd, so there's that.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, pouring kerosene around Wasilla at January 20, 2016 09:40 AM (9krrF)

376 random trivia:
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South Dakota (1943)
Famous Black Hills, SD, temperature antics: 52 degrees at Lead and minus 16 at Deadwood simultaneously. The two spots are only 1.5 miles apart, but have a 600-feet difference in elevation.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 20, 2016 09:40 AM (MbrzC)

377 Btw since when did 6-12" become super massive omg freak out storm? (I understand 18"+) I seem to recall as a kid that was just a typical snow storm, and one at the level that might actually mean no school in the morning, anything less then that wasn't even a big deal.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 20, 2016 09:47 AM (MbrzC)

378 oops wrong thread.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 20, 2016 09:50 AM (MbrzC)

379 The 70s were when you left California, if you were smart. That's when I bailed. And just an FYI, a lot of the stuff you see here about Trump was said about Reagan in those days.

Have you tried talking or emailing people that were adults in the 70s? It was a weird time and I can't think of any single source that can capture it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 20, 2016 10:00 AM (Lqy/e)

380 'Can anyone recommend some good source material on the 1970s so I can get the feel of the era right?
Do you have a leisure suit?'

Polyester bellbottoms and a tight, loud, Qiana shirt. ooo baby! Also, fireman. Also, limited phone calls so as not to tie up the line. ALso, long phone cord that got all twisted up as you walked around. ALso, a group of us high school-agers used to drive into LA to take in a show. Imagine that now, ha.

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at January 20, 2016 10:09 AM (dQJCS)

381 There is a site called vintage LA which has a lot of photos from the 60s that may help you.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 20, 2016 10:32 AM (iQIUe)

382
The 70s were when you left California, if you were smart. That's when I bailed.

Me too, with a lot of help from the AF...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at January 20, 2016 10:42 AM (Bi1Tt)

383 Is the TFG countdown one of their most popular.

Survey says !@#$%^*(*^%$#@#$%^*()

Posted by: DaveA at January 20, 2016 11:10 AM (DL2i+)

384 Posted by: Kreplach at January 20, 2016 08:40 AM (7GJvw)
+++++++

I like the way you think

Posted by: oddnot not liking these times at January 20, 2016 12:31 PM (g1MTt)

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