Cruz Responds to Trump's Birther-Baiting: Say, That Donald Trump Sure Has Liberal Tendencies, Doesn't He?

Finally.

I got this from AllahPundit, who says "And here we go."

The long-anticipated throw-down might be here.

Here's the relevant part of @tedcruz's response to Trump citing Laurence Tribe on citizenship: pic.twitter.com/QQoFiKDbD5
— Patrick Svitek (@PatrickSvitek) January 12, 2016

Meanwhile, the bitter and corrupt corporate toady Mitch McConnell says the Senate will not offer a declaration stating that Cruz is a citizen -- something they did for fellow corporate toady John McCain.

Posted by: Ace at 03:17 PM

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1 Oneth again?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 12, 2016 03:18 PM (LUgeY)

2 Birther-baiting? You can go blind from doing that too much, can't you?

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 12, 2016 03:19 PM (iIzG7)

3 Wow, a two-fer.

I'll fetch the others.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 12, 2016 03:19 PM (LUgeY)

4 This thread should be.......fun.

Posted by: Tim in GA at January 12, 2016 03:20 PM (XfyNr)

5 It's on.

Like me.

Posted by: Donkey Kong at January 12, 2016 03:20 PM (7wqb3)

6 But Cruz identifies as American. Isn't that enough these days?

I mean it works for race and secks.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 12, 2016 03:20 PM (LUgeY)

7 Of course McConnell won't.

Because it's bitchy mean girls from the bottom to the top.

Posted by: Chupacabra at January 12, 2016 03:20 PM (XiVKO)

8 Remember when it was racist to accuse a minority candidate of not being eligible for the presidency?

Posted by: Cantankerous at January 12, 2016 03:21 PM (326rv)

9 Jeez...with so much more to talk about, we get this?

Posted by: Diogenes at January 12, 2016 03:21 PM (r65B3)

10 "But Cruz identifies as American. Isn't that enough these days? I mean it works for race and secks."

And, in the case of McConnell, political affiliation.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 12, 2016 03:21 PM (iIzG7)

11 Pistols at 20 paces?

Posted by: @votermom at January 12, 2016 03:21 PM (z65A/)

12 So the democrats are about to nominate a loud and proud socialist but the problem really is whether or not Ted Cruz was technically a "natural" born citizen when one of his parents was a citizen.

Got it. The republicans really have their priorities straight on this one.

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 12, 2016 03:21 PM (XjdT7)

13 Bad idea T-Shirt Gal has some pretty impressive elbows.

Those dinosaur look impressed.

Posted by: garrett at January 12, 2016 03:22 PM (bpyiA)

14
CNN is reporting that Cruz is the leader of a mooselum rape gang.

Posted by: Wolf "Double Jeopardy" Blitzer at January 12, 2016 03:22 PM (q4hvt)

15 In before Misfortune and Pestilence pops a skull fuse over "natural-born".

Posted by: Mortimer at January 12, 2016 03:22 PM (7wqb3)

16 Birther-baiting? You can go blind from doing that too much, can't you?
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 12, 2016 03:19 PM (iIzG7)

----

No... but the hairy palms thingy??? Thats real.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 12, 2016 03:22 PM (8XRCm)

17

Look, as a Cruz supporter I like Trump and what he's brought.

But going after Cruz with a shiny squirrel with a left wing line of attack via left wing tactics is just too much.

I'm looking at you specifically BREITBART.COM.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 03:23 PM (zLP1L)

18 Cruz is getting a metric butt ton of free publicity over this. Good or bad his name is all over the place.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 12, 2016 03:24 PM (iONHu)

19 "But Cruz identifies as American. Isn't that enough these days? "

Not without paperwork.

You can't just go nilly willie making up shit.

Posted by: Rachel Dolezal at January 12, 2016 03:24 PM (ptqRm)

20

Mark my words,,, I shall not be denied....

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 12, 2016 03:24 PM (HSmrB)

21 Something something Ted is brutal according to David Brooks.

Posted by: @votermom at January 12, 2016 03:24 PM (z65A/)

22
Natural born. Like lamaze?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 03:24 PM (zLP1L)

23
Anybody born outside the country is not eligible to be president.

Posted by: Panama McCain at January 12, 2016 03:24 PM (ODxAs)

24
Ironic.

Corporatist McConnell and all the other Republican corporatists are eager to declare, literally, every foreigner an American citizen but not their Senate colleague Ted Cruz.

Posted by: 270000 admirals and generals at January 12, 2016 03:24 PM (pMvUN)

25 I'm looking at you specifically BREITBART.COM.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 03:23 PM (zLP1L)

******

At this point Breitbart may as well merge with Conservative Treehouse. They are all in.

Posted by: Tim in GA at January 12, 2016 03:25 PM (XfyNr)

26 18 Cruz is getting a metric butt ton of free publicity over this. Good or bad his name is all over the place.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 12, 2016 03:24 PM (iONHu)

And his statement linking Trump with Hilary and Democrats is going to stick.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 03:25 PM (zLP1L)

27 Let me see if I have this straight:

One of TFP's parents was an American and he's an American.

One of Cruz's parents was an American and he's a Canadian.

Aaaaaalll righty, then.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 12, 2016 03:25 PM (LUgeY)

28 Mephiso...mephistol...satanic, isn't he?

Posted by: David Corn-you know the rest at January 12, 2016 03:25 PM (NSb9d)

29 The going blind thing is actually true.you can also go bind from viagra.
Temporarily I think.

Posted by: @votermom at January 12, 2016 03:25 PM (z65A/)

30 Mitch never stops being Mitch.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 12, 2016 03:25 PM (LA7Cm)

31 Wasn't it racist to accuse Obama of not being natural born or nah? or is Ted too white to try that line?

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 12, 2016 03:26 PM (XjdT7)

32 25 Posted by: Tim in GA at January 12, 2016 03:25 PM (XfyNr)

I'd hate like hell to have to cross them off my list but this shit is worse than counterproductive.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 03:26 PM (zLP1L)

33 I'm waiting for the Harry "Rumors" Reid to weigh in with some hush-hush gossip about Cruz having pledged allegiance to Canada or something.

Posted by: Ken in NH at January 12, 2016 03:26 PM (qFlZT)

34 In before Misfortune and Pestilence pops a skull fuse over "natural-born".
Posted by: Mortimer at January 12, 2016 03:22 PM (7wqb3)

-----

And let the angel whom thou still hast served
Tell thee, I was from my mothers womb
Untimely ripped.

~~ Shakesperes "Cruzduff"

Posted by: fixerupper at January 12, 2016 03:26 PM (8XRCm)

35 You mean like with a cloth?

Posted by: Hillary at January 12, 2016 03:27 PM (ptqRm)

36 I'd hate like hell to have to cross them off my list but this shit is worse than counterproductive.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 03:26 PM (zLP1L)

*****

The circular firing squad is indeed difficult to watch.

Posted by: Tim in GA at January 12, 2016 03:27 PM (XfyNr)

37 SCrew McConnell, McCain, Reice Peibus and all of the other GOPe jerks who won't stand up for Cruz.

Honestly, even if I didn't like Cruz, I am SO tired of the GOP abandoning people like Cruz and Palin so that they can still hang out with the DC cool kids (Dems and MSM).

Posted by: Lizzy at January 12, 2016 03:27 PM (NOIQH)

38 Senator Yertle (R-KY) is a bitch.

Posted by: General Zod at January 12, 2016 03:27 PM (Bdeb0)

39 Mitch really is a useless and lying sack of shit, isn't he?

Posted by: garrett at January 12, 2016 03:28 PM (bpyiA)

40 9 Jeez...with so much more to talk about, we get this?
Posted by: Diogenes at January 12, 2016 03:21 PM (r65B3)

That's the whole point. The MFM/Dem/GOP-e machine is terrified of Cruz and Trump - and Trump is falling for it because he perceives Cruz gaining on him.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 03:28 PM (zLP1L)

41 Funny how suddenly everyone's very focused on whether a candidate is qualified as a citizen to run for president.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 12, 2016 03:28 PM (8ZskC)

42 Hat trick yet Backwardsboy ?

Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2016 03:29 PM (3ZgzE)

43 Crooz?

Well, whatever. You guys like him for some damned reason. To me he's just same old same old with a better mask.

Posted by: Bigby's Prosthetic Hand at January 12, 2016 03:29 PM (3ZtZW)

44 36 The circular firing squad is indeed difficult to watch.
Posted by: Tim in GA at January 12, 2016 03:27 PM (XfyNr)

I don't think Andrew would be please to see this.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 03:29 PM (zLP1L)

45 We need to just yelling "Silly birthers" while pointing and laughing at these people who are suddenly interested in vetting a presidential candidate's citizenship status.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 12, 2016 03:29 PM (NOIQH)

46 The GOPe would rather have Bernie than Cruz. Fact.

Posted by: Lauren at January 12, 2016 03:29 PM (GZ6Pf)

47 Cruz is great and all, but he did have dual citizenship until 2014. I have a bigger issue with that than with him being born in Canada.

If he gets the nomination, I'll vote for him, and I prefer him among those currently running, but his until recent dual citizenship is just less-than-ideal.

Posted by: shillelagh at January 12, 2016 03:29 PM (L3vVL)

48 I did not think my opinion of John McCain could get lower. I was wrong.

The Horde is well aware of my contempt for the debacle of the Romney campaign and the utter refusal of the GOP boosters to accept that the man that they told us was the most electable and most competent candidate instead gave us ORCA.

However, I think John McCain's actions recently are what have cemented my full scale and utter loathing of being told I have to listen to My Betters in the GOP about who can be elected. John Fucking McCain, of all people, has not one single right to open his pathetic mouth about Ted Cruz. Not. One. Right.

It's disgusting. I am ashamed that I voted for him. Completely ashamed.

This whole loyalty only goes one way belief that the GOP appears to hold needs to be excised.

I volunteer as tribute to do so.

Oh here Ravage, Ravage, Ravage.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 12, 2016 03:29 PM (mf5HN)

49 It's going to hurt Trump. Some of the electorate thought he was above that type of crap with people that he claimed to share similar views with.

Attacking the "enemy" draws a lot of support because Republicans, especially the last nominee, "Mittens" were such a bunch of effeminate cowards.

This stuff, not so much.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 12, 2016 03:29 PM (GGCsk)

50 So. Let the angry recriminations begin. [Grabs popcorn]

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 12, 2016 03:29 PM (RD7QR)

51 What about Kasich? His father carried letters in his bag that had been postmarked in dozens of foreign countries. Shouldn't that be disqualifying?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 12, 2016 03:30 PM (NeFrd)

52 OT: USC students required to detail sexual history before registering for classes

http://bit.ly/1JIJi2d

Posted by: The Campus Hat at January 12, 2016 03:30 PM (vBeA5)

53 40 9 Jeez...with so much more to talk about, we get this?
Posted by: Diogenes at January 12, 2016 03:21 PM (r65B3)

That's the whole point. The MFM/Dem/GOP-e machine is terrified of Cruz and Trump - and Trump is falling for it because he perceives Cruz gaining on him.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 03:28 PM (zLP1L)

Meant to add, all the other issues add up to a 48 state landslide against them. Better to distract with the shiny birther squirrel.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 03:30 PM (zLP1L)

54 I'm a Cruz guy but, hurts to say this,"Ted. If you're explaining then you're losing the argument."

He needs to be pithy and quotable. Like Trump. Lowest Common Denominator. 5th Grade Level. LIV's. Twitter.

Posted by: CozMark at January 12, 2016 03:30 PM (JeBIy)

55 Something something Ted is brutal according to David Brooks.
Posted by: @votermom at January 12, 2016 03:24 PM (z65A/)

Truly, it is impossible to dislike David Brooks too much. On what planet in what alternate universe is this Obama-loving pipsqueak a conservative?

Posted by: troyriser at January 12, 2016 03:30 PM (UWlp+)

56 That video of Ted Cruz cooking bacon on the muzzle of an AR-15... "some people" are saying it was Canadian bacon.

So... DISQUALIFIED!

Posted by: Donald Trump at January 12, 2016 03:30 PM (H9MG5)

57 What's funny is that the McCain resolution was only introduced so as to give cover to Obama. In fact, it was done in a Democrat-led house.

You know who the cosponsors were?
Coburn (the only R)
Leahy
Webb
Clinton
Obama

Posted by: AmishDude at January 12, 2016 03:30 PM (Xd2w5)

58 Let him who has never eaten Canadian bacon cast the first metaphorical stone!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 12, 2016 03:30 PM (NeFrd)

59

Meh.

I am sure that this was covered at the weekly Trump-Cruz weekly conference call.

"Are you sure you want me to hit at your Clinton relationship, Don?"

"There's no such thing as bad publicity, Teddy my boy, and Americans love a good fight! You should go after my ties to Hillary, take that one away from the Dems."

"You can be my wingman anytime, Don."

" No, Ted. You can be mine."

/highfives

Posted by: Mortimer at January 12, 2016 03:31 PM (7wqb3)

60 Cruz is great and all, but he did have dual citizenship until 2014. I have a bigger issue with that than with him being born in Canada.

Canadian sleeper agent?

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 12, 2016 03:31 PM (1RNgT)

61 Is Cruz eligible to vote in the Senate? I mean, somebody check his ID.

Posted by: Mich McConnell at January 12, 2016 03:31 PM (UzPAd)

62 Trump and Cruz will throw down because those two know that this where their main Republican competition lies. Similarly, Jeb is going hard after Rubio.

When this dust clears the Establishment and Insurgent champions will be known and the struggle for the power to define the Republican Party for a generation will begin.

The Clash of the Champions!

Coming soon to the Thunderdome!

Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet - If You're Not Angry One Stop Is All You Need.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Expectations are Lower than the Temps at the Outrage Outlet! at January 12, 2016 03:31 PM (hLRSq)

63 I thought I saw Ann Coulter recounted her Cruz isn't a natural citizen

Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2016 03:31 PM (3ZgzE)

64 Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2016 03:31 PM (gf8BH)

65 I don't need a whole lot more convincing to go into total Cruz Control this election cycle, folks.

This kind of crap is definitely getting the job done.

Posted by: filbert at January 12, 2016 03:32 PM (s5o+q)

66 Jeez...with so much more to talk about, we get this?

Yeah, they ignore the shitty economy, the porous Mexican border, muzzie terrorist attacks and the plight of the middle class under TFP's Reign of Error to talk about this?

Neither Cruz nor Trump is the enemy. America's enemy is the Left.

Seriously y'all. Get your feces amalgamated.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 12, 2016 03:32 PM (LUgeY)

67 Well, I see no way around this problem. It's going to take an Article V convention of the states to sort it out.

Posted by: Benson, C.46 at January 12, 2016 03:32 PM (EyTak)

68 48 Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 12, 2016 03:29 PM (mf5HN)

Honeychile, write yo'self a big fat check (fat as you can) to his primary opponent.

And spread the word.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 03:32 PM (zLP1L)

69 ...dual citizenship...

Yeah, that's a burr of the "so then because thou art lukewarm and neither cold nor hot" variety.

(None of this conservative folderol changes my allegiance to the cylon lesbian...)

Posted by: General Zod at January 12, 2016 03:32 PM (Bdeb0)

70 Cruz's reply to Trump is actually very similar to a comment I left here yesterday.

Posted by: Pastafarian at January 12, 2016 03:32 PM (LqrRo)

71 Gosh darn it, this race for Prime Minster is sure abooot to get ugly, eh?

Posted by: Lord Gulgoth at January 12, 2016 03:33 PM (bWvOd)

72 I'm a Cruz guy, and I'm sure his secret platform is to make curling the national sport.

Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2016 03:33 PM (3ZgzE)

73 >>I did not think my opinion of John McCain could get lower. I was wrong.

AtC, McCain was on Morning Joe, and would asked if he would work w/Trump if elected, he said with a pained expression that he would "have to" and then spewed some nonsense about how he would only do this to save the country from Trump screwing it up (paraphrasing).

Un-fargin'-believable, the nerve of that guy!!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 12, 2016 03:33 PM (NOIQH)

74 Cruz is great and all, but he did have dual citizenship until 2014. I have a bigger issue with that than with him being born in Canada.

Canadian sleeper agent?
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 12, 2016 03:31 PM (1RNgT)

Americans just shouldn't have dual loyalties, and the bar is higher for someone that wants to be the chief executive of the country.

Posted by: shillelagh at January 12, 2016 03:33 PM (L3vVL)

75 but he did have dual citizenship until 2014.

===

He wanted to be President of something, dammit! Canada, USA, whatever.

Posted by: Bigby's Prosthetic Hand at January 12, 2016 03:33 PM (3ZtZW)

76 Either one, Trump or Cruz, and the look on the turtle's and McCains faces when one is elected.

Posted by: Soona at January 12, 2016 03:33 PM (Fmupd)

77 I don't think lack of support from Bitch is going to hurt Ted. Ted is brilliant, make no mistake. He ain't gonna roll over like a GOPe candidate would.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 12, 2016 03:34 PM (xWW96)

78 Honestly, we've waited how long to beat this slimeball in the White House and now we've got our own Birther Wing.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 12, 2016 03:34 PM (GGCsk)

79 Here's my comment from yesterday -- it works better in this thread anyway:

I read somewhere that the backbone of Trump's support consists of people who identify as Republican, but are registered as Democrats.

The author of the article interpreted this to mean: Reagan Democrats. That is, of course, absurd -- Reagan Democrats were pretty conservative, and they wouldn't be currently registered as Democrats, because that would (probably) mean that they voted Democrat in the last election -- that is, they voted for Obama. I don't think he won too many conservative Reagan Democrat votes.

I take it to mean: Trump is the product of a Democrat Operation Chaos. First the Democrats rigged the Republican nomination in Florida in 2008, and gave us McCain, the worst possible candidate against a much younger and more hip Democrat. Then they rigged the game again in 2012 and gave us Romney, the one guy that couldn't run against Obamacare.

And now they're going to give us Trump. And a few people here are falling right into their trap.

Not everyone here supporting Trump has been fooled -- most of these new commenters supporting Trump surely were commenting at Democratic Underground a few months ago. You're in on the game. Bravo, Chester, well-played.

Leftists are responding to polls by identifying as Republicans and claiming to support Trump, hoping to generate a preference cascade. They're probably actively going out and finding every poll they can. They'll register as R's in droves and push Trump to victory in every early state.

And they he'll lose to Clinton, and we'll have an unindicted felon for a president, and she'll make 3 or 4 SCOTUS appointments, and they'll be about as bad as you can imagine.

But Ted Cruz isn't a real American. Jesus Christ on horseback, I am at my wits' end.

Posted by: Pastafarian at January 12, 2016 03:34 PM (LqrRo)

80
Tonight you'll hear obama say the economy is the best it has ever been, thanks to him.

obama will also tell you he has done many many great things to improve the USA, but still has one more year to get a lot more done.

Posted by: 270000 admirals and generals at January 12, 2016 03:35 PM (pMvUN)

81 Jeez...with so much more to talk about, we get this?

Posted by: Diogenes at January 12, 2016 03:21 PM (r65B3)

Are You Not Entertained?

Which Shall Triumph? Shall the Axe of Insurgency Be Turned On The Trunk of Establishmentarianism?
Or Shall the Hammer of the Establishment Beat Down the Uprising?

Coming to a Thunderdome Near You.

Soon. Soooooon.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Expectations are Lower than the Temps at the Outrage Outlet! at January 12, 2016 03:35 PM (hLRSq)

82 Americans just shouldn't have dual loyalties, and the bar is higher for someone that wants to be the chief executive of the country.
Posted by: shillelagh at January 12, 2016 03:33 PM (L3vVL)

Really? Noting who the President is puts the whiff to that statement.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 12, 2016 03:35 PM (xWW96)

83 Americans just shouldn't have dual loyalties, and the bar is higher for someone that wants to be the chief executive of the country.

Is legal citizenship the same as loyalty?

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 12, 2016 03:35 PM (1RNgT)

84 Well, I see no way around this problem. It's going to take an Article V convention of the states to sort it out.

Posted by: Benson, C.46 at January 12, 2016 03:32 PM (EyTak)

That's just what THEY are expecting us to do!!!

(looks around suspiciously)

Posted by: filbert at January 12, 2016 03:35 PM (s5o+q)

85
MSNBC reports that Cruz is cutting his Havana Holiday short and returning to the USA to address the Donald's charges.

Posted by: Rachael Madcow at January 12, 2016 03:36 PM (q4hvt)

86 I heard Ted say 'hoser' one time
Maybe Gavin McInnes can administer a
You Might be Canadian if .... Test

Posted by: Mccool at January 12, 2016 03:36 PM (aMCka)

87 Honeychile, write yo'self a big fat check (fat as you can) to his primary opponent.

And spread the word.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 03:32 PM (zLP1L)

Whose, McCain's? Isn't McCain retiring? Or did my brain just go HE'S RETIRING OKAY I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALALALALA.

Maybe I should start shooting the heroin into my left eye. I shall ponder.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 12, 2016 03:36 PM (mf5HN)

88 This is easy.

If Cruz were Canadian ... He couldn't hide it. Sooner or later, he'd have to bitch about our horse-piss beer, or how stupid we were, or one of a million perceived slights.

Posted by: Irony at January 12, 2016 03:36 PM (E7zwb)

89 As a proud Vermonter, I have been on the front lines against those untrustworthy icebacked snowbilly maple syrup thieves my whole life. I refuse to see one President. Even if he wasn't a demented Xtianist conservitard, no Canadian shall pass us.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at January 12, 2016 03:36 PM (jhsdj)

90 "63 I thought I saw Ann Coulter recounted her Cruz isn't a natural citizen"

I've got a bigger dick than Cruz. Buy my book!

Posted by: Ann Coulter at January 12, 2016 03:36 PM (OD2ni)

91 If we elect Cruz then we'll get milk in bags in our fridges! The horror!

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 12, 2016 03:36 PM (RD7QR)

92 Ted Cruz would prefer to eat at Tim Horton's instead of a Krispy Kreme!

OUTRAGEOUS!!!

Posted by: Krispy Kreme Christie at January 12, 2016 03:37 PM (H9MG5)

93 I realize its the primaries but for crying out loud, the country is heading towards the shitter and this is what they want to talk about? Cruz should tell them all to shut up, grow up and pivot the conversation to any of the myriad problems we face.

Posted by: IC at January 12, 2016 03:37 PM (a0IVu)

94 30 38

Thank you!!!
I have been trying to find a way to insult the shrieking harridans at work without resorting to actual profanity. I think I have it,

"Don't be such a Mitch!"

Posted by: rd at January 12, 2016 03:37 PM (v0YLX)

95
OMG, Ted Cruz is the Mancanadian Candidate!

When someone says the secret phrase, he will make Hockey the only allowed professional sport.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 12, 2016 03:37 PM (ODxAs)

96 "...I'm sure his secret platform is to make curling the national sport."

Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2016 03:33 PM (3ZgzE)

And?

http://tinyurl.com/j7s5e4o

Sorta NSFW

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 12, 2016 03:37 PM (Zu3d9)

97 Neither Cruz nor Trump is the enemy. America's enemy is the Left.

Seriously y'all. Get your feces amalgamated.

I bought 1000 shares of Amalgamated Feces for only $2.00/share!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 12, 2016 03:38 PM (lADRM)

98 Always talking about the tribe.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 12, 2016 03:38 PM (FkBIv)

99 Birther-baiting? You can go blind from doing that too much, can't you?
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 12, 2016 03:19 PM (iIzG7)

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No... but the hairy palms thingy??? Thats real.

Posted by: fixerupper

HANDBABIES!!!!

Posted by: The Authoritative Quran at January 12, 2016 03:38 PM (VAsIq)

100 74 Americans just shouldn't have dual loyalties, and the bar is higher for someone that wants to be the chief executive of the country.
Posted by: shillelagh at January 12, 2016 03:33 PM (L3vVL)

I think my head is going to explode. Dual loyalties?!
Here we are with two candidates that have to potential to overturn the tables of the moneychangers and at least start the process of reversing course, and THIS is a concern?!

The man is legally and Constitutionally eligible to be POTUS. Period.

Meanwhile, in case you missed it, there's a steaming sack of traitorous shit in the Oval Office now with an entire political party behind him that has a loyalty to our destruction.

Perspective. How does it work?

Sheesh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 03:39 PM (zLP1L)

101 Honestly, we've waited how long to beat this slimeball in the White House and now we've got our own Birther Wing.

I wouldn't be so quick to assume that internet commentators, birther or not, are on 'our' side, depending on certain definitions of 'our'.

In fact, I'm not too sure of some of y'all here.

[insert emojicon here]

Posted by: Benson, C.46 at January 12, 2016 03:39 PM (EyTak)

102 "88 This is easy.

If Cruz were Canadian ... He couldn't hide it. Sooner or later, he'd have to bitch about our horse-piss beer, or how stupid we were, or one of a million perceived slights.
Posted by: Irony at January 12, 2016 03:36 PM ("

I've seen Canadians on South Park and Cruz does not resemble them at all. His jaw is connected to the rest of his face.

Posted by: Benji Carver at January 12, 2016 03:39 PM (OD2ni)

103 This is easy.

If Cruz were Canadian ... He couldn't hide it. Sooner or later, he'd have to bitch about our horse-piss beer, or how stupid we were, or one of a million perceived slights.
Posted by: Irony at January 12, 2016 03:36 PM (E7zwb)

He ain't Canadian.

I mean, he ain't once said "aboot". Not once.

Well, excepting when he's talkin' about his shoes.

Posted by: filbert at January 12, 2016 03:39 PM (s5o+q)

104 In Re: Dual Citizenship and Ted Cruz.

If he didn't actively seek it out and instead it attached to him by Canadian law without any effort on his part, then it really isn't a big deal to me. Foreign governments can set up their own rules declaring who is a citizen and who isn't and short of a treaty there is very little the USA can do about it.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Expectations are Lower than the Temps at the Outrage Outlet! at January 12, 2016 03:39 PM (hLRSq)

105 Gimme a high five!

Posted by: Geico Peter Pan at January 12, 2016 03:39 PM (hrMUT)

106 Ted Cruz won't have a campaign tour bus, he'll have a campaign Zamboni!!!

Posted by: Marco Rube-e-i-e-i-o at January 12, 2016 03:40 PM (H9MG5)

107 and the look on the turtle's and McCains faces when one is elected.

===

They had Cruz at one point. They're pissed he didn't stay doing what he was told.

Posted by: Bigby's Prosthetic Hand at January 12, 2016 03:40 PM (3ZtZW)

108 87 Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 12, 2016 03:36 PM (mf5HN)

He's being primaried! I'm referring to the nice lady that is his opponent!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 03:40 PM (zLP1L)

109 I bought 1000 shares of Amalgamated Feces for only $2.00/share!
Posted by: rickb223

Do they make the poo pills?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 12, 2016 03:40 PM (FkBIv)

110 Always talking about the tribe.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 12, 2016 03:38 PM (FkBIv)

In Canadian, that's "First Nation," not "tribe."

Posted by: filbert at January 12, 2016 03:40 PM (s5o+q)

111 Ted Cruz's favorite band is Rush

Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2016 03:40 PM (3ZgzE)

112 Contrast:

Barack Obama's entire extended family is living it up in Kenya, and he ate a dog.

Ted, while technically a heathen, - Ted's biggest sin is calling pork loin "bacon."

Hmm.

Posted by: Fritz at January 12, 2016 03:40 PM (UzPAd)

113 ...I'm sure his secret platform is to make curling the national sport."

Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2016 03:33 PM (3ZgzE)

Obligatory Norwegian curling pants here.

http://bit.ly/1ZiTX5x

SWEEP SWEEP!

I love curling. I really do.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 12, 2016 03:40 PM (mf5HN)

114 Also, I have never heard Cruz say "eh". Canadians can't help themselves, every other word.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 12, 2016 03:40 PM (xWW96)

115 When someone says the secret phrase, he will make Hockey the only allowed professional sport.

Tim Bits?
Poutine?
Canadian Bacon?
John Candy?

Hey, imagine a fist fight in the NFL. Season long suspensions & hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Hockey? 2 f'n minutes.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 12, 2016 03:40 PM (lADRM)

116 I bought 1000 shares of Amalgamated Feces for only $2.00/share!

No shit?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 12, 2016 03:41 PM (YJmuy)

117 McConnell and McCain are exactly why I'll be voting for someone who's not GOPe.
Two scumbags that never should've been voted in to their last terms. At least McCain can be retired this year.

And they wonder why voters are pissed. Morons.

Posted by: Jock-Strap at January 12, 2016 03:41 PM (EAUyw)

118 Ted Cruz and his father are satanic.

Posted by: Actual Things Said by the Media Recently at January 12, 2016 03:41 PM (VAsIq)

119 I bought 1000 shares of Amalgamated Feces for only $2.00/share!
Posted by: rickb223

Do they make the poo pills?

Shit slingers.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 12, 2016 03:41 PM (lADRM)

120 I take it to mean: Trump is the product of a Democrat Operation Chaos.

===

OMFG who the fuck cares?

Posted by: Bigby's Prosthetic Hand at January 12, 2016 03:41 PM (3ZtZW)

121 I've had enough of Trump. I wait & wait for him to implode & it hasn't happened.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2016 03:42 PM (sj3Ax)

122 111 Ted Cruz's favorite band is Rush
Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2016 03:40 PM (3ZgzE)

Limbaugh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 03:42 PM (zLP1L)

123 Damn I want Timbits.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 12, 2016 03:42 PM (mf5HN)

124 FWIW, I think that the Senate passed that Resolution about McCain in April, 2008, well after McCain had secured enough votes to win the nomination at the Republican Convention.

Posted by: Reno_Dave at January 12, 2016 03:43 PM (n6gHv)

125 "111 Ted Cruz's favorite band is Rush"

Figures. I bet he prefers Tim Horton's coffee too.

Posted by: Benji Carver at January 12, 2016 03:43 PM (OD2ni)

126 Is there a reason Cruz won't go to court and get vindication, besides probably being faced with an Obama appointed judge?

Posted by: Iblis at January 12, 2016 03:43 PM (9221z)

127 Also, I have never heard Cruz say "eh". Canadians can't help themselves, every other word.

Posted by: maddogg

I mean, listen to one o' them Northdics spell their country: c, eh, n, eh, d, eh...filthy, filthy Canadians.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 12, 2016 03:43 PM (VAsIq)

128 I've had enough of Trump. I wait & wait for him to implode & it hasn't happened.
Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2016 03:42 PM (sj3Ax)

******

Every time he has imploded, he has done so in an upward manner. I doubt that will change before the initial primaries.

Posted by: Tim in GA at January 12, 2016 03:43 PM (XfyNr)

129 Ted Cruz had never referred to the Montreal Canadiens as the "Habs."

Posted by: filbert at January 12, 2016 03:43 PM (s5o+q)

130
113 ...I'm sure his secret platform is to make curling the national sport."

Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2016 03:33 PM (3ZgzE)

Obligatory Norwegian curling pants here.

http://bit.ly/1ZiTX5x

SWEEP SWEEP!

I love curling. I really do.
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 12, 2016 03:40 PM (mf5HN)

It of course has nothing to do with so many of the women being in the cute - hot side of the attractiveness scale even while fully clothed I'm sure.

Posted by: Buzzion at January 12, 2016 03:44 PM (z/Ubi)

131 Say, that Senator Cruz has his wife in the enemy camp, commonly known as Goldman Sachs. The same Goldman Sachs that is favored by Obama and Hillary. Well, all of DC really.

Posted by: Decaf at January 12, 2016 03:44 PM (b+LwE)

132
Brown 25. From Uranus Corporation.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 03:44 PM (zLP1L)

133 Cruz ever put gravy on his fries ?

Posted by: Irony at January 12, 2016 03:44 PM (E7zwb)

134 I've got a bigger dick than Cruz. Buy my book!

Posted by: Ann Coulter

She's dating Bill Maher again?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 12, 2016 03:44 PM (YJmuy)

135 Bitch McConnell can suck on a root. He won't be happy until Jeb is nominated. Asshole.

Posted by: Hank at January 12, 2016 03:44 PM (3rpaY)

136 Cruz is likable and possibly nonCanadian enough

Posted by: x at January 12, 2016 03:44 PM (57fhp)

137 #79 I am at my wits' end.

Having read your entire comment, I wholeheartedly agree.

Tell me why Trump is losing money by running - Macy's, etc. (and risking losing more.) Tell me why Trump is outworking every single candidate in either party, by a country mile. Tell me why Trump is risking long-term damage to his brand.

All because he's a Sooper Sekrit Hillary plant? Right. Get a grip.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 12, 2016 03:44 PM (r9tFS)

138 Ted Cruz will eschew Secret Service protection and instead be guarded by Mounties.

Posted by: Juan Ellis Bush at January 12, 2016 03:44 PM (H9MG5)

139 Posted by: Pastafarian at January 12, 2016 03:34 PM (LqrRo)

Democrat Operation Chaos? You're really reaching there with an outlandish implausible conspiracy theory.

Progressive acquaintances that I know are scared to death of Trump. They literally think he's another Hitler. No way they would get anywhere near an operation chaos. They dislike Cruz, but do not fear him.

The opposite side, I know more than a handful (anecdotally - I know) of lifelong democrats who are genuinely all in on Trump. They viewied Obama as a failure, and see Hillary and Bernie as too liberal. Guys like Cruz, Jindal et al are 'too religious' for their tastes.

Posted by: other joe_mama at January 12, 2016 03:44 PM (13W9U)

140
"The Brown Wall of China"

By Hu Flung Dung

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 03:44 PM (zLP1L)

141 Priebus is a pussy!

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2016 03:44 PM (sj3Ax)

142 He always wears a toque on all his commercials, and a knit sweater

Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2016 03:45 PM (3ZgzE)

143 It of course has nothing to do with so many of the women being in the cute - hot side of the attractiveness scale even while fully clothed I'm sure.

Posted by: Buzzion

You and attended different curling events during the 2002 Winter Olympics.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 12, 2016 03:45 PM (VAsIq)

144 This was for the MoveOn thread, but does anyone know if its actually possible for a Biden or Warren to jump in given that Iowa is only 20 days away? Can they even get on the ballots in these states? I know, I know, the rules are only for small people, but logistically, is it even possible?

Posted by: Eli Cash at January 12, 2016 03:45 PM (Dc/ui)

145 Is there a reason Cruz won't go to court and get vindication, besides probably being faced with an Obama appointed judge?

Posted by: Iblis at January 12, 2016 03:43 PM (9221z)

Federal courts do not issue advisory opinions, there has to be an actual live case or controversy and there isn't one. A bunch of candidates sliming each other with the help of pundits and the blood-mad mob of internet typers (my favorite customers!) doesn't satisfy that requirement.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Expectations are Lower than the Temps at the Outrage Outlet! at January 12, 2016 03:45 PM (hLRSq)

146 125 "111 Ted Cruz's favorite band is Rush"

Figures. I bet he prefers Tim Horton's coffee too.
Posted by: Benji Carver at January 12, 2016 03:43 PM (OD2ni)

And Burger King

Posted by: Iblis at January 12, 2016 03:45 PM (9221z)

147 >>>>...I'm sure his secret platform is to make curling the national sport."

Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2016 03:33 PM (3ZgzE)

And?

http://tinyurl.com/j7s5e4o

Sorta NSFW
.
.
.Not sure but I don't think that stockings and heels are going to work for curling. Just sayin......

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 12, 2016 03:46 PM (iONHu)

148 I am not anti Cruz and think it egregious of McConnell and Priebus to refuse to vouch for him when they were perfectly happy to do that for Obama.

Posted by: Decaf at January 12, 2016 03:46 PM (b+LwE)

149 Ted can't be a Canadian. He doesn't have a hobbit name.

Posted by: General Zod at January 12, 2016 03:46 PM (Bdeb0)

150 off topic, noticed this at weaselzippers

Bill Clinton On Meeting Hillary: "I Kept Ogling Her Till She Talked To Me..."

so he's been a sexual harasser all the way back, but I can understand this, since personally I always thought she was kind of ogly.

Posted by: Satan -- tea time at January 12, 2016 03:46 PM (qSIlh)

151 133 Cruz ever put gravy on his fries ?
Posted by: Irony at January 12, 2016 03:44 PM (E7zwb)

That's like a Southeast PA thing. With cheese.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 03:46 PM (zLP1L)

152 didn't McConnell take sides with Crist over Rubio but refuse to take side in Rand vs whoever back in 2010?

Posted by: Satan -- tea time at January 12, 2016 03:47 PM (qSIlh)

153 He has sang Oh Canada for the Maple Leafs on a pre game

Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2016 03:47 PM (3ZgzE)

154 144 This was for the MoveOn thread, but does anyone know if its actually possible for a Biden or Warren to jump in given that Iowa is only 20 days away? Can they even get on the ballots in these states? I know, I know, the rules are only for small people, but logistically, is it even possible?
Posted by: Eli Cash at January 12, 2016 03:45 PM (Dc/ui)

The only rules are made and enforced by the party itself. So they can jump in theoretically at the convention itself.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 03:47 PM (zLP1L)

155 115 When someone says the secret phrase, he will make Hockey the only allowed professional sport. "

No. Cruz will fix the World Series so the Toronto Blue Jays win every year.

He's satanic like that.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present moment) at January 12, 2016 03:47 PM (u0lmX)

156 In Canadian, that's "First Nation," not "tribe."
Posted by: filbert at January 12, 2016 03:40 PM (s5o+q)

This is where I tell the story of getting a super polite Canadian to smother me with a blanket in a Wal-Mart.

So. The (late, lamented) BFF was First Nations. I was up visiting her in Canuckistan and we were at Wal-Mart shopping for whatever and she was giving me shit, as she was wont to do, and we were walking past a display of blankets so I did the obvious thing and picked up one and held it out to her and said, very solemnly, "Here. Have this blanket."

That was the point at which she shoved the blanket in my face and started smothering me with it.

Worth. It.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 12, 2016 03:47 PM (mf5HN)

157 Tim in GA,
I've noticed.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2016 03:48 PM (sj3Ax)

158 Both Cruz and Trump have a point regarding each other however, immigration is THE issue and he wins on points. Cruz in the past being in favor of legal immigration is now a minus.

Posted by: Decaf at January 12, 2016 03:48 PM (b+LwE)

159 re 151: what's wrong with gravy on fries? you put gravy on mashed, don't you? really good gravy is like liquid bacon, for chrissake

Posted by: Satan -- tea time at January 12, 2016 03:48 PM (qSIlh)

160 But Ted Cruz isn't a real American. Jesus Christ on horseback, I am at my wits' end.Posted by: Pastafarian at January 12, 2016 03:34 PM (LqrRo)

Yeah, that. There is nothing more exasperating than people whose political beliefs most nearly coincide withone's own. It's that one tick of difference that makes you crazy with frustration.

This Cruz birther shit sounds like it was floated by Hillary's people so that Trump would bite at it like a bottom-feeding carp, and he did.

Posted by: troyriser at January 12, 2016 03:49 PM (UWlp+)

161 No shit JJ ? First time I ever saw it was in canuckistan.

By the way, I'm a really, really big fan of their ballet.

Posted by: Irony at January 12, 2016 03:49 PM (E7zwb)

162 Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 12, 2016 03:46 PM (iONHu)

Spoilsport.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 12, 2016 03:49 PM (Zu3d9)

163 Ryan and McConnell being against anyone at this stage is a resounding endorsement.

Posted by: Decaf at January 12, 2016 03:49 PM (b+LwE)

164
Time to lower the BP and feed the kittehs.

Later.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 03:49 PM (zLP1L)

165 >>>>This was for the MoveOn thread, but does anyone know if its actually
possible for a Biden or Warren to jump in given that Iowa is only 20
days away? Can they even get on the ballots in these states? I know, I
know, the rules are only for small people, but logistically, is it even
possible?

Posted by: Eli Cash at January 12, 2016 03:45 PM (Dc/ui)

The only rules are made and enforced by the party itself. So they can jump in theoretically at the convention itself.

.
.
.
.They can't get on the ballots in most of the early States as the deadlines have passed.

However, shenanigans can be pulled by the DNC as their Convention.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 12, 2016 03:49 PM (iONHu)

166 Frankly, I think a Canuckistani sleeper agent would be better than someone who has tried to give several countries to the Moslem Brotherhood.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at January 12, 2016 03:50 PM (kCfMX)

167 The trump stuff to me is whatever. He's going to grab a hold of everything he can and sling it at his opponent. McConnell being the bitchy little girl that he is and refusing to do that recognition is very telling.

It actually does make Trump's concern about Cruz somewhat valid. Not his actual eligibility, but the fact that his opponents will attempt to claim he isn't eligible.

Who here believes that it is completely out of the realm of possibility that if Trump does implode and Cruz has the delegates to win that some establishment hacks will try to have him disqualified before the convention so they can pick one of their preferred stooges?

Posted by: Buzzion at January 12, 2016 03:50 PM (z/Ubi)

168 Americans just shouldn't have dual loyalties, and the bar is higher for someone that wants to be the chief executive of the country.

Really? Noting who the President is puts the whiff to that statement.

He definitely shouldn't be President. Unfortunately, rules only ever are applied to Republicans.

Americans just shouldn't have dual loyalties, and the bar is higher for someone that wants to be the chief executive of the country.

Is legal citizenship the same as loyalty?

Prima facie evidence of it. Not proof, but enough to have to explain.

To reiterate, Cruz is my favorite of those still in the running, and I don't think this issue kills his candidacy at all. I do think it is a weakness, not a large one, but a weakness all the same, and for the sake of wanting him as President, I wish he didn't have to deal with it.

Posted by: shillelagh at January 12, 2016 03:50 PM (L3vVL)

169 Pastaface figured it out. The Democrats control the SYSTEM man, and have picked the Republican candidate for the last two elections.

Notice how handy this is for GOPers.

"The Democrats made us nominate the squishes! Trump is just another Democrat plant!"

Like Scar at the end of The Lion King. The Hyenas made me do it!

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 12, 2016 03:50 PM (xuouz)

170 Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 12, 2016 03:47 PM (mf5HN)

That is marvelous on so many levels.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 12, 2016 03:50 PM (Zu3d9)

171 O/T

Hey we need a new thread about how CBS says Nancy Drew can be anyone but a white chick.

Posted by: Iblis at January 12, 2016 03:50 PM (9221z)

172 Mark Steyn has an interesting take on a Trump rally.

I guess the only good of this is to, once and for freaking all, figure out if Cruz is ok. Of course, no one gave a dam in 2008.

I am spending the day waiting on a repair guy (fridge, only appliance not replaced). Waiting. What I do best (not).

So I have time to wait and think of Senor Penn, and his probable sweat flop paranoia of every noise these days. "Is that the cartel?" He is so arrogant he bragged about this loudly, in hotel, worrying that Mexican actress would beat him to the story. Now he worries if he will see manana.

I also read why El Chapo's wife beater looked so filthy after his last near-escape. Apparently he was hiding in a sewer drain, like the rat he is. Also! Syringes of testosterone and Mexican viagra and videos of that actress found at the apt. I had to laugh at the vision of this little dwarf in his last hours of freedom.

Anyway! I think Penn is jumpy, like a jackrabbit on meth. Probably alternately snorting lines of coke and taking ludes, smoking a doobie, or something he bought south of the border.Jumping beans. He probably hears crickets chirping from each side of house, decides it is code, grabs sawed off shotgun, and shoots his pecker off in excitement.

You know, his prize peenie that has an entire paragraph devoted to (Rolling Stoned) it as he takes a whiz at the secret meeting.

Penn, of course, freaks, and, of course, farhts with some soiling (also known as nincompoopie). Picks up Little Sean, made even smaller by blast, an runs around house thinking! Ice! Plastic baggie---dumps pot onto floor for this is only baggie! Milk? Oh, wait, that is for a loose tooth! Halp!

Notes in mirror he is wearing a Beavis and Butthead stained tee, and quickly changes to his tux for trip to ED (wrinkled tux lying on floor after Madonna and he raise money in Haiti. Reeks of pot, but c'est la vie). Calls driver. Is seen in back of limo at stop light, lying down, fly open, clutching groin in one hand with the other holding baggie--- and loud music playing "Let's Get It On" by Marvin Gaye. Hanging onto consciousness by a thread of that paranoia.

He arrives in nearest ED, screeching "Do you know who I am?" HIPPA! Obamacare! Staff, with tears in their eyes (perceived by Sean to be sorrow but actually nearly choking with laughter), ask "Are you Caitlyn? He screams, NO! and tells his name. Demands secret trauma room!!! His Hispanic doc looks at wound, mentions in Spanish to nurse that it appears "el chapo" (stunted) and Sean faints with his trademark farht. Lights out. The end of documentary known as the Last Daze of El Commie Chupacabra.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 12, 2016 03:50 PM (7lqMl)

173 I pronounce about "ah-boot" and think Don Cherry has great fashion sense.

Posted by: Ted Cruz at January 12, 2016 03:51 PM (OD2ni)

174 Yeah, it should be pretty obvious by now that the establishment prefers Trump over Cruz. And why wouldnt they, considering Trumps history of country club Republicanism? Yes, he will embarrass them occasionally, because he is a vulgar buffoon, but on the whole this guy is so fond of seeing himself as the big deal-maker, that Congress will get its way. No matter which party is in charge there.

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 12, 2016 03:51 PM (IgokJ)

175 is it even possible?

Posted by: Eli Cash at January 12, 2016 03:45 PM (Dc/ui)

See mookowsi and Alaska

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 12, 2016 03:51 PM (QPdNE)

176 I keep getting a server error. What is this shit?

Posted by: Naes at January 12, 2016 03:51 PM (Ypc8j)

177 WhatWhatWhat at 137:

The plant doesn't have to know he's a plant.

I'm not suggesting a conspiracy between Trump and Clinton (although he has contributed to their family crime syndicate). McCain thought he could win, and so did Romney, and in each case, they were the worst possible candidate that we could have run, and they were chosen for us by the Democrats and their media.

And they're doing it again. I'm done holding my fucking nose and voting for whoever they chose for me. Done.

It's time to nominate the most conservative candidate who can win. Period. Full-fuckitty-stop. That's not Trump.

Posted by: Pastafarian at January 12, 2016 03:51 PM (LqrRo)

178 The Senate really should stay out of it (from a Constitutional perspective). But of course, that applied to McCain too. Once they have went down that route, it has decided to inject itself into the debate.

Posted by: SH at January 12, 2016 03:52 PM (gmeXX)

179
Can they even get on the ballots in these states?

I think if a major party says someone is their nominee, they automatically go on the state's general election ballots. So technically, Biden could get the nomination in a 'brokered convention' if there is no winner on the first ballot without ever running a campaign in each state.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 12, 2016 03:52 PM (ODxAs)

180 This is just another example of how scary good Trump is with his Linguistic Kill Shots. He didn't actually say any of the birther stuff. Just that it would [arguably] be a legit issue with Dems on records saying that they will sue.

Look at what a firestorm it has caused as a result. Trump knows how to weaponize and manipulate the media to his advantage. I know it sucks when it's your guy who's on the receiving end of the sh*t storm, but Cruz had to go. He was in the way of Trump, and that guy likes to win and win big.

Posted by: other joe_mama at January 12, 2016 03:52 PM (13W9U)

181 re 154: remember when Torricelli was forced out if the Senate race in 2002 or 2004? The Dems put up ancient Frank Lautenberg, the Repubs argued that it was past the deadline to replace a candidate, and the state Sup Ct basically said it was okay because people have a right to vote for whom they want to vote for, or some shit like that.
Point is, where Dems are involved, the only rule is that the rules can always be broken if it helps the Dems.

Posted by: Satan -- tea time at January 12, 2016 03:52 PM (qSIlh)

182 Federal courts do not issue advisory opinions, there has to be an actual live case or controversy and there isn't one. A bunch of candidates sliming each other with the help of pundits and the blood-mad mob of internet typers (my favorite customers!) doesn't satisfy that requirement.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Expectations are Lower than the Temps at the Outrage Outlet! at January 12, 2016 03:45 PM (hLRSq)

So this is why no one will sue? Once the judgement is in, the issue is gone? Nice. I hate these fucks.

I'm surprised his superpac hasn't sued then.

Posted by: Iblis at January 12, 2016 03:52 PM (9221z)

183 So. The (late, lamented) BFF was First Nations. I was up visiting her in Canuckistan and we were at Wal-Mart shopping for whatever and she was giving me shit, as she was wont to do, and we were walking past a display of blankets so I did the obvious thing and picked up one and held it out to her and said, very solemnly, "Here. Have this blanket."

That was the point at which she shoved the blanket in my face and started smothering me with it.

4 point or 5 point blanket?
Rendezvouers will get it.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 12, 2016 03:52 PM (lADRM)

184 Look, I taught Constitutional law, so believe me, Ted Cruz is not eligible to be President.

It says so... you know... right there... on the paper.

Posted by: SCOAMF at January 12, 2016 03:53 PM (H9MG5)

185 I pronounce about "ah-boot" and think Don Cherry has great fashion sense.

Posted by: Ted Cruz at January 12, 2016 03:51 PM (OD2ni)

Ad house is ouse

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 12, 2016 03:53 PM (QPdNE)

186 Backwardsboy, I checked the days threads, you have two firsts and both in a row, I'll be looking for the block.

Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2016 03:54 PM (3ZgzE)

187 Wait a minute. Do Canadians really call the native americans 'aborigines' and French men who married natives and had children, those children are called 'hybrids' (Metis)

Posted by: Benson, C.46 at January 12, 2016 03:54 PM (EyTak)

188 Semi -OT : Ben Howe went off his rocker on Twitter with LMR.

Posted by: Wyatt at January 12, 2016 03:54 PM (aRcIP)

189 Posted by: rickb223 at January 12, 2016 03:52 PM (lADRM)

My parents have a few....I love them.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 12, 2016 03:54 PM (Zu3d9)

190 I read that the Dems changed rules in 1968 because LBJ wasn't running & despised RFK.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2016 03:54 PM (sj3Ax)

191 Is there a reason Cruz won't go to court and get vindication, besides probably being faced with an Obama appointed judge?

--------------

Yes, there is a reason. The Court has no business being the arbitrater of such a dispute (though there is no dispute - or case or controversy - at least legally).

Cruz does not believe in judicial supremacy (neither do I), so why would he put the Court in a position to be superior (even if were to declare him eligible).

Posted by: SH at January 12, 2016 03:54 PM (gmeXX)

192
Let me give you the definitive reason that Ted Cruz is an eligible citizen:

Ready?

You sure?

OK:

No one has standing.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 12, 2016 03:56 PM (ODxAs)

193 You just don't understand, this Senate seat is mine. It belongs to me.

Posted by: McCain, McConnell, and a host of others at January 12, 2016 03:56 PM (l3vZN)

194 This is just another example of how scary good Trump is with his Linguistic Kill Shots.

Oh, scary good. I am soooo conservative I shall cite Lawrence Tribe as my authority.

I respect successful people so much, I'm going to tip my seat back on my Trump Air flight, sip some delightful Trump Vodka, and wing my way off to prestigious Trump University.

Because classy.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 12, 2016 03:56 PM (1xUj/)

195 A lot of nics that I don't recognize on this thread. I suspect Bernie fans stirring the pot.

Posted by: Soona at January 12, 2016 03:56 PM (Fmupd)

196

I'm sorry. I don't speak Canadian. Can someone translate what Cruz said?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 12, 2016 03:56 PM (kdS6q)

197 It's time to nominate the most conservative candidate who can win. Period. Full-fuckitty-stop. That's not Trump.
Posted by: Pastafarian at January 12, 2016 03:51 PM (LqrRo)

*******

Yeah.....no. I already got played twice with this argument, minus the Trumpage. If the primaries say Trump can do it, take it away Donald.

Posted by: Tim in GA at January 12, 2016 03:56 PM (XfyNr)

198 Would really like Cruz to win.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 12, 2016 03:56 PM (LmpJH)

199
"The Democrats made us nominate the squishes! Trump is just another Democrat plant!"

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Dems: "Quit hittin' yerself!" *smack smack* Haw! Haw!

Seriously. If the GOP is *that pathetic* then who the fk cares what candidate gets the GOP nom? Destroy that Party for the good of the Nation.

Posted by: Bigby's Prosthetic Hand at January 12, 2016 03:57 PM (3ZtZW)

200 He is not reason, he is not eloquence, -- he is force! Like fire, he is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should he be left to irresponsible action."
-George Washington on Trump

Posted by: Naes at January 12, 2016 03:57 PM (Ypc8j)

201 I uthed to bait the Burthar when I wath at univerthity.

I ended up needing glatheth.

Posted by: Beavis the Mathematics PedantEx-College Student at January 12, 2016 03:57 PM (bpn7O)

202 Iranian Navy has seized TWO of our navy shit's

They act like they already have nukes

Posted by: ThunderB at January 12, 2016 03:57 PM (lzoCw)

203 My parents have a few....I love them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Boom! The width, depth, and breadth of knowledge here is amazing.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 12, 2016 03:57 PM (lADRM)

204 It's time to nominate the most conservative candidate who can win. Period. Full-fuckitty-stop. That's not Trump.
Posted by: Pastafarian

building a wall and deporting illegals is more conservative than anything the other gop candidates will even say, much less do.

Posted by: x at January 12, 2016 03:57 PM (57fhp)

205 McConnell asked if he's support Cruz if he's the GOP candidate, McConnell kept repeating there will be no govt. shutdown, there will be no govt. shutdown.

McCain was sitting next to him playing with his navel lint and drooling. He also picked his nose and ate the booger, twice.

Posted by: Jock-Strap at January 12, 2016 03:58 PM (EAUyw)

206 This is just another example of how scary good Trump is with his Linguistic Kill Shots. He didn't actually say any of the birther stuff. Just that it would [arguably] be a legit issue with Dems on records saying that they will sue.

Look at what a firestorm it has caused as a result. Trump knows how to weaponize and manipulate the media to his advantage. I know it sucks when it's your guy who's on the receiving end of the sh*t storm, but Cruz had to go. He was in the way of Trump, and that guy likes to win and win big.
Posted by: other joe_mama at January 12, 2016 03:52 PM (13W9U)

I've said it before, Trump's act works until it doesn't.

It works primarily because The Media are a) Democrats and b) idiots. They fall over one another slobbering for whatever drivel Trump tosses out, affecting the vapours and generally having a grand old time.

The best response that rational people can give to anyone they encounter who spews this nonsense is "Are you serious? You believe that horseshit? Are you really that stupid?"

Posted by: filbert at January 12, 2016 03:58 PM (s5o+q)

207 Let me give you the definitive reason that Ted Cruz is an eligible citizen:

Ready?

You sure?

OK:

No one has standing.

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Not yet. Its not a ripe case or controversy.

Cruz could potentially have standing (were he to win) if the House were to not count his electoral votes because the House believes him to be ineligible.

Posted by: SH at January 12, 2016 03:58 PM (gmeXX)

208 Iranian Navy has seized TWO of our navy shit's

I'll give em two of mine if they want them that bad.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 12, 2016 03:59 PM (lADRM)

209 Ted Cruz is an American citizen...unless they find he has a Maple Leaf tattooed on his ass...then he WaPo's Glenn Kessler can give Cruz 4 hockey sticks...

Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at January 12, 2016 03:59 PM (zxC8O)

210
It's time to nominate the most conservative candidate who can win. Period. Full-fuckitty-stop. That's not Trump.

Exactly.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at January 12, 2016 03:59 PM (7wqb3)

211 Ships. Not shit's. Auto cucumber has become aware

Posted by: ThunderB at January 12, 2016 03:59 PM (lzoCw)

212 Apparently toadys are so common there isn't even an Amazon Market.

http://tinyurl.com/hsastba

I'd like to personally point this out to them.

Posted by: DaveA at January 12, 2016 03:59 PM (DL2i+)

213 194 This is just another example of how scary good Trump is with his Linguistic Kill Shots.

Oh, scary good. I am soooo conservative I shall cite Lawrence Tribe as my authority.

I respect successful people so much, I'm going to tip my seat back on my Trump Air flight, sip some delightful Trump Vodka, and wing my way off to prestigious Trump University.

Because classy.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 12, 2016 03:56 PM (1xUj/)

Head on over to Scott Adams' blog to see what Trump is doing. There is a method to his madness. It isn't about Trump being 'sooo conservative' at all.

Posted by: other joe_mama at January 12, 2016 03:59 PM (13W9U)

214 Posted by: Pastafarian at January 12, 2016 03:34 PM (LqrRo)

||+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++||

Trump's Chumps are more than likely the working class whites that the Democrats have removed from their base coalition.

The Dems want to appeal to Professionals (dcotors, lawyers, professors, bureaucrats) and aspirants to that class because that's where the $ is.

To get the votes they appeal to the various SJ segments they've been organizing into communities and indoctrinating in colleges (the aspirants to the Pro class come from the colleges). Those are the 2 main groups.

Trump's Chumps don't fall into alignment with either group so they lack a voice. The Unions kept them in the fold but The Unions aren't as powerful as they once were because the Blue State model (the three legged stool of Government Bureaucrats/Pols-Unions-Business) is collapsing and union membership is falling because Blue States have poor business environments which causes Democrats to lose elections.

My point is, there is another explanation than the one you posit which seems too conspiratorial, complex, and organized to be plausible.

Posted by: CozMark at January 12, 2016 04:00 PM (BjOkm)

215 Cruz wants to move the goal posts! Back to the front of the end zone.

Posted by: Buzzion at January 12, 2016 04:00 PM (PhD+N)

216 Look at what a firestorm it has caused as a result. Trump knows how to weaponize and manipulate the media to his advantage. I know it sucks when it's your guy who's on the receiving end of the sh*t storm, but Cruz had to go. He was in the way of Trump, and that guy likes to win and win big.Posted by: other joe_mama at January 12, 2016 03:52 PM (13W9U)

Yeah, that Trump: he's like unto a god and stuff. Machiavelli in a can, I'm tellin' ya. Don't get in the way of that guy, nossireebob.

You Trumppeople manage to pull this off and win for him the presidency, then yes, we as a nation will truly be getting what we deserve.

Posted by: troyriser at January 12, 2016 04:00 PM (UWlp+)

217 They are as transparent as glass. When the burning times come, I will enjoy seeing McCain, McConnell, et.al. melt.

Posted by: Cheri at January 12, 2016 04:00 PM (oiNtH)

218 104: good point

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at January 12, 2016 04:00 PM (ROUi8)

219 Posted by: rickb223 at January 12, 2016 03:57 PM (lADRM)

You reminder prompted me to see whether I could pick up a few.

Nope. $295-$495

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 12, 2016 04:00 PM (Zu3d9)

220 I'm not suggesting a conspiracy between Trump and Clinton (although he has contributed to their family crime syndicate). McCain thought he could win, and so did Romney, and in each case, they were the worst possible candidate that we could have run, and they were chosen for us by the Democrats and their media.

It's time to nominate the most conservative candidate who can win. Period. Full-fuckitty-stop. That's not Trump.
Posted by: Pastafarian at January 12, 2016 03:51 PM (LqrRo)

They weren't the worst. They just didn't win. Enough with the superlatives. Millenials will only vote for a "cool" conservative. I hate that and what it means and everything that brought us to this place, but that is just the way it is.

Trump is not only the only "cool" candidate in the republican field, he's NOT EVEN A REPUBLICAN. This is a feature and not a bug.

The problem with identity politics is that it treats politics as an identity. Politics is not Trump's identity. And that's ok. I don't care what he did in the past, I don't care about his family or his money or his looks or whether his TV show was a worthy member of the golden age of television a la some 23,000 word Grantland pop culture article. I. Am. Not. Invested. In. The. Person.

Americans are supposed to serve in a representative government as a duty, joylessly, without giving themselves awards and statues and parades, and then go home when they're done. Their identity is not tied to the office.

Trump is a tool. But he's the right tool for this job.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 12, 2016 04:00 PM (xuouz)

221 2 Navy Boats in Iranian Custody, but crews will be returned shortly.
I have Boston Herald Alert.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2016 04:00 PM (sj3Ax)

222 Here we go again with the Italian judicial system.

Ashley Olsen, age 35 of Florida, was found naked and strangled in her apartment in Florance Italy.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/j2cwx8s

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 12, 2016 04:00 PM (3UF/W)

223 Posted by: filbert at January 12, 2016 03:58 PM (s5o+q)
Let me know when it stops working.

Posted by: other joe_mama at January 12, 2016 04:01 PM (13W9U)

224
I suppose this means that he's not going to pick Cruz for his running mate.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 04:01 PM (zLP1L)

225 Ted Cruz actually likes Canada geese!!!

Posted by: carryover from last night's thread at January 12, 2016 04:01 PM (H9MG5)

226 You reminder prompted me to see whether I could pick up a few.

Nope. $295-$495

I know. :-( I looked into them a few years back. Man, are they proud of them.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 12, 2016 04:01 PM (lADRM)

227 Here is how this could potentially be a case or controversy. If a state were to refuse to name Cruz on a ballot because the state (through its legislature) determined Cruz to be ineligible. Then Cruz would have standing to bring suit to get his name on the ballot.

Posted by: SH at January 12, 2016 04:01 PM (gmeXX)

228
Let me give you the definitive reason that Ted Cruz is an eligible citizen:
No one has standing.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk

Don't be so sure:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_presidential_eligibility_litigation

You or me, probably not. But anybody who ran against Cruz for President in any primary or any state in the general might. Which would include the Dems and any bearded eye-patch tax protester.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 12, 2016 04:02 PM (kdS6q)

229 Let me know when it stops working.
Posted by: other joe_mama at January 12, 2016 04:01 PM (13W9U)

It'll be pretty obvious when it happens.

Posted by: filbert at January 12, 2016 04:02 PM (s5o+q)

230 Ted Cruz actually likes Canada geese!!!

325 for 6 hours.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 12, 2016 04:02 PM (lADRM)

231 FTSB: The German Federal police say the Arab "rape game" has established itself in Europe.

Some kind of personal Death Blossom needs to be invented.

Posted by: Grump928(c) is holding his head at January 12, 2016 04:02 PM (evdj2)

232 It's two small Navy Crafts in Iranian custody.
.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2016 04:02 PM (sj3Ax)

233 I suppose this means that he's not going to pick Cruz for his running mate.

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I don't think this means that at all. I do think for now Trump has left himself some wiggle room. Of course, Trump could flat out say that Cruz is not eligible and then just decide to change his mind.

Posted by: SH at January 12, 2016 04:03 PM (gmeXX)

234 Carol @221 Just saw the same on Fox.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 12, 2016 04:03 PM (r65B3)

235 Can you even qualify to be elected to the Senate but not the Presidency? Enquiring minds and all.

Posted by: Cheri at January 12, 2016 04:03 PM (oiNtH)

236 I could almost give a third of a metric rat's ass about the Canadian thing. Hoddam, Cruz was born there. A country that hates America so much that they're on the verge of suing us in court to get us to take their petroleum from them, through a pipeline that an anti-American vetoed by Caesarean decree.

Cruz has no loyalty or fealty to Canada. Chrisakes, he was elected to the Senate by Texas! I think his enemies would get more mileage out of claiming Cruz would find himself with divided loyalties if Texas were to secede. Oh, God! Would he be loyal to Texas, or to the rest of what's left of America? Oh, the humanity!

Seems to me -- and I'm just saying here -- that Cruz' fidelity with America and her Constitution run deeper than with most other candidates. So excuse me while I roll my eyes at this claim so much that I'm looking at my own gray matter.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 12, 2016 04:03 PM (iIzG7)

237 Posted by: Iblis at January 12, 2016 03:52 PM (9221z)

They only people that I think can make a fuss about this requirement are the actual members of the Electoral College. Or maybe the House if they refuse to certify the results.

There really isn't a mechanism in place for determining what is eligibility under the citizenship requirement, the Constitution is silent on that. Perhaps an Amendment defining the citizenship requirement would be a route to go down, or just do what we do now and let each citizen voter make that determination in the voting booth.

Sorry - not every problem has a solution.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - the Outrage Outlet - Proud Sponsors of Clash Of Champions at the Iowa Caucus-Dome! at January 12, 2016 04:03 PM (hLRSq)

238 It's like the Quiet Man!

Posted by: Evi L. Bloggerlady at January 12, 2016 04:03 PM (4kTo2)

239 Iranian Navy has seized TWO of our navy ships

===

What? Act of War, right there.

Posted by: Bigby's Prosthetic Hand at January 12, 2016 04:03 PM (3ZtZW)

240 It's two small Navy Crafts in Iranian custody.
Posted by: Carol

Oh, what did we do to make them dislike us so?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 12, 2016 04:04 PM (FkBIv)

241 My bad...on drudge.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 12, 2016 04:04 PM (r65B3)

242 I suppose this means that he's not going to pick Cruz for his running mate.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 04:01 PM (zLP1L)

Didn't Trump go to Hillary's wedding to Huma or some such thing? Hey, things change . . .

Posted by: filbert at January 12, 2016 04:04 PM (s5o+q)

243 Ashley Olsen, age 35 of Florida, was found naked and strangled in her apartment in Florance Italy.

Where was Mary-Kate?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 12, 2016 04:04 PM (YJmuy)

244 This has been said by others much more articulately than me, but it seems like this is no longer a vanity run for Trump.

I'll try to hold my nose and vote for him if I have to, I would prefer someone less "science-fictiony."

Posted by: Max Power at January 12, 2016 04:04 PM (q177U)

245 Perhaps it's just me, but I'm beginning to see a time in the near future when only the mothers position at time of conception will appease some people.

Missionary? Forget it.
Cowgirl? Maybe.
Reverse cowgirl? Good to go.

Posted by: Ben Dover at January 12, 2016 04:04 PM (fbovC)

246 "You have everything to fear from a Cruz Presidency!"

Juan McStain

Posted by: Cheri at January 12, 2016 04:04 PM (oiNtH)

247 I like Ann Coulter, but remember she has been a huge supporter and booster of:

Kristie Creme
Mitt Romney
Turtle McConnell

and other unsavory characters, I'm assuming.

Posted by: chique testing testing at January 12, 2016 04:04 PM (Pby3z)

248 You or me, probably not. But anybody who ran against Cruz for President in any primary or any state in the general might. Which would include the Dems and any bearded eye-patch tax protester.

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Possibly, though I would guess the Court would not take it as a political question - which I think is right. The only real person who I could see having standing is Cruz himself should he be denied access to a ballot or denied counting of his electoral votes.

I'm not sure any other person would or should ever have standing.

Posted by: SH at January 12, 2016 04:05 PM (gmeXX)

249 If they could figure out some way to curl on shuffleboard courts, I'd be all for it. There are enough Canuks down here for that to really take off.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 12, 2016 04:05 PM (LUgeY)

250
115When someone says the secret phrase, he will make Hockey the only allowed professional sport.

Tim Bits?
Poutine?
Canadian Bacon?
John Candy?

Hey, imagine a fist fight in the NFL. Season long suspensions hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Hockey? 2 f'n minutes.

Hate to be the Hockey Rules Nazi, but it's5 f'n minutes for fighting.

Posted by: JustJohn at January 12, 2016 04:05 PM (Sbdgq)

251 Missed the last thread, "Why I left the Paris Climate Summit with an activist tattoo"
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Did anyone notice that her fingernails are bitten to the quick? A sure sign of insecurity and self-doubt.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 12, 2016 04:05 PM (RrDm2)

252 Grumpy, the Arabs are merely doing what the Russians did in occupied Germany in 1945.

*thud*

Speaking of history repeating. re:last threat and Morgan. Amazing how they are basically advocating applying the Morgenthau Plan to all of the industrial West.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 12, 2016 04:05 PM (3UF/W)

253 I am ashamed that I voted for him.

Don't be. I voted for him to die. He has yet to perform that basic piece of constituent service... or fan service.

Posted by: DaveA at January 12, 2016 04:05 PM (DL2i+)

254 Iranian Navy has seized TWO of our navy ships

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What? Act of War, right there.

Source? Not coming up on google news.

Thanks.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 12, 2016 04:05 PM (1xUj/)

255 Trump should just tell Cruz to go make him a sammich.

Posted by: Roy at January 12, 2016 04:05 PM (VndSC)

256 Time for the fem bots with vagina dentata

Posted by: ThunderB at January 12, 2016 04:05 PM (lzoCw)

257 Recall 1968.

Antiwar candidate Eugene McCarthy forced LBJ from the race by nearly beating him in NH. LBJ's VP Hubert Humphrey jumped in. So did RFK, who got shot the night of the day he won the California primary. The Chicago Convention was a riot, literally. George Wallace went third party. Nixon said he spoke for the silent majority and won.

History may not repeat, but it often rhymes.

Bernie is playing the Eugene McCarthy role. Biden may be Humphrey. Is there an RFK?

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 12, 2016 04:05 PM (r1fLd)

258 Biggest deal breaker for a former Cruz supporter -- really, really former now. Why are his records sealed. Why are his records sealed.

Forever more now that Americans have been so burned we don't know if we can rebuild from the ashes -- no one can ever become a candidate for local, state, or federal office if they seal their records. Never, ever. Or a republic, a representative democracy is over.

Wake up. Why does Cruz have sealed records? Sleazy, tricky. Can't trust him. "Conservative credentials" caput.

Posted by: pyromancer76 at January 12, 2016 04:05 PM (sPfLU)

259 They only people that I think can make a fuss about this requirement are the actual members of the Electoral College. Or maybe the House if they refuse to certify the results.

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I think a state could refuse to put him on a ballot. That would certainly invite litigation, but a state does have this power.

Posted by: SH at January 12, 2016 04:06 PM (gmeXX)

260 Cruz's argument is that we shouldn't listen to Tribe because he's a liberal and Hillary supporter.

So if Tribe yells, "Watch out! You're about to be hit by a truck!" it is safe to just stand there and ignore him.

Posted by: despair at January 12, 2016 04:06 PM (VrdxH)

261 I like Cavuto, but he's going to have Trump on.
Time to listen to the radio.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2016 04:06 PM (sj3Ax)

262 247 I like Ann Coulter, but remember she has been a huge supporter and booster of:

Kristie Creme
Mitt Romney
Turtle McConnell

and other unsavory characters, I'm assuming.
Posted by: chique testing testing at January 12, 2016 04:04 PM (Pby3z)

She has said multiple times that her dream ticket is Trump/Romney.

Uhhhhh wat

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 12, 2016 04:07 PM (xuouz)

263 I saw Vagina Dentata open for David Bowie back in 1978 at the Astrodome

Posted by: Roy at January 12, 2016 04:07 PM (VndSC)

264 239
Iranian Navy has seized TWO of our navy ships

===

What? Act of War, right there.

Posted by: Bigby's Prosthetic Hand at January 12, 2016 04:03 PM (3ZtZW)

||++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++||
So was seizing US Embassy/hostages and blowing up the Marine Barracks in Lebanon (both in the early 80's).

Posted by: CozMark at January 12, 2016 04:07 PM (ES+x/)

265 227 Here is how this could potentially be a case or controversy. If a state were to refuse to name Cruz on a ballot because the state (through its legislature) determined Cruz to be ineligible. Then Cruz would have standing to bring suit to get his name on the ballot.
Posted by: SH at January 12, 2016 04:01 PM (gmeXX)

That would be for the election, not the primary? What if a state party refused?

Posted by: Iblis at January 12, 2016 04:07 PM (9221z)

266 235 Can you even qualify to be elected to the Senate but not the Presidency? Enquiring minds and all.

Posted by: Cheri at January 12, 2016 04:03 PM (oiNtH)

You don't have to be a natural born citizen to be elected to Congress. There have been more than a few who were naturalized US citizens.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present moment) at January 12, 2016 04:07 PM (u0lmX)

267
There really isn't a mechanism in place for determining what is eligibility under the citizenship requirement
Posted by: Mikey NTH

The individual states can refuse to put him on the ballot or certify his vote. Restricted by the usual federal civil rights statutes natch

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 12, 2016 04:07 PM (kdS6q)

268 Pentagon just confirmed that Iran has seized TWO US Navy ships

Posted by: ThunderB at January 12, 2016 04:07 PM (lzoCw)

269 Look at what a firestorm it has caused as a result. Trump knows how to weaponize and manipulate the media to his advantage.

Posted by: other joe_mama at January 12, 2016 03:52 PM (13W9U)
_____

"Manipulate" suggests that the leftists in the media arent doing exactly what they want to do. What makes you think that? Why would they mind having a GOP presidential candidate who is publicly praising the Scottish healthcare system?

CNN has taken over the GOP primary process and a bunch of people think its some kind of rebellion.

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 12, 2016 04:07 PM (IgokJ)

270 I think this is going to hurt Trump. It seems silly and stupid, and it makes him look childish--if he's not ahead in the polls, he'll whine and scream and stamp his feet and hold his breath til he turns blue.

With all the substantive issues facing this country, going after Cruz because he's gaining in the polls shows Trump really doesn't want to govern, he just wants to win.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 12, 2016 04:07 PM (B8JRQ)

271 I really do wonder who Trump will choose as his VP. I get the feeling most of the GOP will politely decline. I think Ted Cruz will just wait for 2020. Jeff Sessions maybe. Rand Paul? I wouldn't be surprised if he chooses some former Democrat-- a Zell Miller type. Or he'll just pick one of his buddies.

Posted by: Naes at January 12, 2016 04:08 PM (Ypc8j)

272 Sorry - not every problem has a solution.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - the Outrage Outlet - Proud Sponsors of Clash Of Champions at the Iowa Caucus-Dome! at January 12, 2016 04:03 PM (hLRSq)

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I tend to agree with you. Besides every voter can determine whether Cruz is qualified. And if you deem him unqualified because he is not a natural born person - great. You just interpreted the Constitution. We don't need the Court for everything. If a majority of the voters determine he is eligible - through their vote - that should be just as good as a Court determination.

Posted by: SH at January 12, 2016 04:08 PM (gmeXX)

273 262 247 I like Ann Coulter, but remember she has been a huge supporter and booster of:

Kristie Creme
Mitt Romney
Turtle McConnell

and other unsavory characters, I'm assuming.
Posted by: chique testing testing at January 12, 2016 04:04 PM (Pby3z)

She has said multiple times that her dream ticket is Trump/Romney.

Uhhhhh wat
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 12, 2016 04:07 PM (xuouz)

You don't get more GOPe than being a New England Tranny.

Posted by: Iblis at January 12, 2016 04:08 PM (9221z)

274 Kari,
I pointed that out to a friend today, about Coulter & her history of picking losers.

Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2016 04:09 PM (sj3Ax)

275 Biggest deal breaker for a former Cruz supporter -- really, really former now. Why are his records sealed. Why are his records sealed.

Oh this might be fun.

What records? How are they "sealed"? What is the source?

*bats ball of yarn with paw*

Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 12, 2016 04:09 PM (1xUj/)

276
235 Can you even qualify to be elected to the Senate but not the Presidency? Enquiring minds and all.
Posted by: Cheri at January 12, 2016 04:03 PM (oiNtH)

Yes. First off the age requirements are different. 30 for a senator 35 for president. Also the citizenship requirement for the senate is only being a US citizen for 14 years.

Posted by: Buzzion at January 12, 2016 04:09 PM (z/Ubi)

277 Is Cruz Canadian?

Hell, he didn't pass my "Are you a true Cuban" quiz!

Posted by: MSNBC guest Mark Halperin at January 12, 2016 04:09 PM (NOIQH)

278 Major issues facing the US:
*Jihad
*immigration
Iran
The coming financial meltdown
*the asinine state of public discourse
*herding cats in congress
the gordian knot of bureaucracy

Who can be trusted to do something on these issues?

Who is electable?

Stars indicate issues where I believe it can't be argued Trump is the most capable candidate, on either side.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 12, 2016 04:09 PM (xuouz)

279 Trump's Chumps are more than likely the working class whites that the Democrats have removed from their base coalition.

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And therefore do not have valid concerns, hence "Chumps".

Posted by: Bigby's Prosthetic Hand at January 12, 2016 04:09 PM (3ZtZW)

280 but his until recent dual citizenship is just less-than-ideal.

It's Canada FFS, they're like the other 7 of 57 states

Posted by: DaveA at January 12, 2016 04:09 PM (DL2i+)

281 That would be for the election, not the primary? What if a state party refused?

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Then this issue may ripen to a case or controversy in which a court would have jurisdiction.

Posted by: SH at January 12, 2016 04:10 PM (gmeXX)

282 Somebody help me out. So there's natural born and naturalized as categories. What's the other?

Because itseems to me that if one didn't have to be naturalized to become a citizen, that makes him a natural born citizen. unless there's some other category I haven't seen spoken of.

Sort of how the Apostle Paul was born a Roman citizen and the centurion guy who was guarding him during his arrest said he had to buy his.

I do realize the US is not ancient Rome.

Posted by: chique testing testing at January 12, 2016 04:10 PM (Pby3z)

283 WH's response to Navy ships seized by Iran:

"Let's not jump to conclusions."

Obarmy will probably drone on how safe we all are. Tomorrow may be another story. And Friday? Be aware of Friday's in crescent moon phase of cray-cray.

Back to reading about rapey Europe...

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 12, 2016 04:10 PM (7lqMl)

284
So if Tribe yells, "Watch out! You're about to be hit by a truck!" it is safe to just stand there and ignore him.

Posted by: despair at January 12, 2016 04:06 PM (VrdxH)

No, I'd listen to Tribe if he told me to get out of the way of a truck. Does that mean I would take his political advice? Nope.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present moment) at January 12, 2016 04:10 PM (u0lmX)

285 Look, this is all moot. Barky's completely phony BC proved that anyone with the slimmest claim to US Citizenship can be POTUS.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 12, 2016 04:10 PM (kXoT0)

286
Oooo - it just occurred to me. The Iowa caucus. Someone there can challenge Cruz's eligibility to be considered, right?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 12, 2016 04:10 PM (kdS6q)

287 We already ran, so what's wrong with Cruz?

Other than not having a hand port for exchanging long protein strings, we mean.

Posted by: Kodos and Kang at January 12, 2016 04:10 PM (bpn7O)

288 Well golly. I think the reason Trump uses these kind of tactics is that the GOPe let themselves be beaten by them.

In it to win it I say.

Posted by: Drider at January 12, 2016 04:10 PM (6Xbsz)

289 271 I really do wonder who Trump will choose as his VP. I get the feeling most of the GOP will politely decline. I think Ted Cruz will just wait for 2020. Jeff Sessions maybe. Rand Paul? I wouldn't be surprised if he chooses some former Democrat-- a Zell Miller type. Or he'll just pick one of his buddies.
Posted by: Naes at January 12, 2016 04:08 PM (Ypc8j)

Cruz for Attorney General

Oh please oh please oh please

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 12, 2016 04:11 PM (xuouz)

290 Trump is not only the only "cool" candidate in the republican field, he's NOT EVEN A REPUBLICAN. This is a feature and not a bug.

The problem with identity politics is that it treats politics as an identity. Politics is not Trump's identity. And that's ok. I don't care what he did in the past, I don't care about his family or his money or his looks or whether his TV show was a worthy member of the golden age of television a la some 23,000 word Grantland pop culture article. I. Am. Not. Invested. In. The. Person.

Americans are supposed to serve in a representative government as a duty, joylessly, without giving themselves awards and statues and parades, and then go home when they're done. Their identity is not tied to the office.

Trump is a tool. But he's the right tool for this job.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 12, 2016 04:00 PM (xuouz)

This is pretty much it. The Republican brand is still pretty nuclear from the Bush years.

Regarding Trump's conservatism... Well, ending Illegal Immigration and the like are the key issues for me. I'm willing to look past blemishes like Kelo, etc. If we don't stop Illegal Immigration, we don't have a country anymore period!

All of the other candidates have been a bunch of Johnny-Come-Latelys with the key issues.
I could care less how much of a vulgarian Trump comes across as, or how the media portrays him.

Posted by: other joe_mama at January 12, 2016 04:11 PM (13W9U)

291 Tim in GA at 197: "Yeah.....no. I already got played twice with this argument, minus the Trumpage. If the primaries say Trump can do it, take it away Donald."

When was this, that you were fooled into voting for the most conservative candidate that could win the Presidency?

1980? Because that's the last time the Republican party ran the most conservative candidate that could win.

Do you regret Reagan's two terms? You regret that GHW Bush had to wait those 8 long years?

Posted by: Pastafarian at January 12, 2016 04:11 PM (LqrRo)

292 It's time to nominate the most conservative candidate who can win. Period. Full-fuckitty-stop. That's not Trump.

Posted by: Pastafarian at January 12, 2016 03:51 PM (LqrRo)

Wrong. It's time to nominate the candidate who will kill the GOPe. Trump is the only contender.

No more games of "wrong hill to die on". This is your hill, GOP. Die on it already.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 12, 2016 04:11 PM (0NdlF)

293 Just putting the boot in before the State of the Union address.

Be nice to us, and we may return your sailors.

Posted by: The Iranians at January 12, 2016 04:11 PM (Mrl1e)

294
I do realize the US is not ancient Rome.

YET!

Posted by: Caligula with a Bad Combover at January 12, 2016 04:11 PM (1xUj/)

295 It's been an hour - is this a food thread yet? Can it be?

Posted by: Chi at January 12, 2016 04:11 PM (gQfxF)

296 It's like the Quiet Man!

Posted by: Evi L. Bloggerlady at January 12, 2016 04:03 PM (4kTo2)

What is?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 12, 2016 04:11 PM (493sH)

297 "What? Act of War, right there. "

Heh.

Posted by: Barry O. at January 12, 2016 04:12 PM (LA7Cm)

298 Is Obama going to open the SOTU with the announcement that our Navy is now inferior to Iran.

Posted by: SH at January 12, 2016 04:12 PM (gmeXX)

299 Trump is more Republican than most global elitist-Republicans who are holding office today. Or maybe they once weren't global elitists (you know, uniparty) but they got bought, paid off. They go into the moneyed swamp called Washington DC and they come out slimed, wearing a Scarlet U (Uniparty). Do they really oppose Obama (another version of Uniparty), make a budget, manage the borders, investigate corruption, keep a strong military, refuse TPP and TPA (Cruz supported), etc., etc.? Not a single Republican identifiable ever after. The only Republican I see is Trump.

Posted by: pyromancer76 at January 12, 2016 04:12 PM (sPfLU)

300 PENTAGON: 2 US NAVY BOATS HELD BY IRAN BUT WILL BE RETURNED

What THE FUCKIN HELL!

WHO THE FUCK IS IN CHARGE HERE!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2016 04:12 PM (gf8BH)

301 Ok, so what records has Cruz sealed now?

Posted by: chique testing testing at January 12, 2016 04:12 PM (Pby3z)

302 I think a state could refuse to put him on a ballot. That would certainly invite litigation, but a state does have this power.

Posted by: SH at January 12, 2016 04:06 PM (gmeXX)

That may work.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - the Outrage Outlet - Proud Sponsors of Clash Of Champions at the Iowa Caucus-Dome! at January 12, 2016 04:12 PM (hLRSq)

303 It's been an hour - is this a food thread yet? Can it be?
Posted by: Chi at January 12, 2016 04:11 PM (gQfxF)

It's been pretty indigestible so far.

Posted by: filbert at January 12, 2016 04:12 PM (s5o+q)

304 Pay no attention the Iranians.

Pay attention to the SOTU and begin thanking me.

Posted by: King Barack the XVth at January 12, 2016 04:13 PM (bpn7O)

305
Mrs Fixer just pointed out to me there are NO Democrats on Mt Rushmore.

Apropos of nothing, but a handy little tidbit.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 12, 2016 04:13 PM (8XRCm)

306 The timing of this 'incident' is very interesting. The President gives important speech tonight. And Iran seizes a couple of small ships.

I think Iran is finally moving into the end game of destroying the legacy of their useful tool while further establishing their hegemony in the Middle East.

If we are lucky it will be a Pueblo Incident and not a Panay Incident.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 12, 2016 04:13 PM (3UF/W)

307 271 I really do wonder who Trump will choose as his VP. I get the feeling most of the GOP will politely decline. I think Ted Cruz will just wait for 2020. Jeff Sessions maybe. Rand Paul? I wouldn't be surprised if he chooses some former Democrat-- a Zell Miller type. Or he'll just pick one of his buddies.

Posted by: Naes at January 12, 2016 04:08 PM (Ypc8j)

Can't he interview people for the job on "The Apprentice - Special VP Edition?"

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present moment) at January 12, 2016 04:13 PM (u0lmX)

308 270 I think this is going to hurt Trump. It seems silly and stupid, and it makes him look childish--if he's not ahead in the polls, he'll whine and scream and stamp his feet and hold his breath til he turns blue.

With all the substantive issues facing this country, going after Cruz because he's gaining in the polls shows Trump really doesn't want to govern, he just wants to win.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 12, 2016 04:07 PM (B8JRQ)

----------------------

Ya'll took the class Conflict 101 too seriously. It's the primary season. This is what always happens. Right now, both Cruz and Trump want to win. It really is a contest. Or is competitiveness and oneupmanship too traumatic?

Posted by: Soona at January 12, 2016 04:13 PM (Fmupd)

309 What if a state party refused?

Posted by: Iblis at January 12, 2016 04:07 PM (9221z)

State party's are private organizations, the suit would be in state court in my opinion.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - the Outrage Outlet - Proud Sponsors of Clash Of Champions at the Iowa Caucus-Dome! at January 12, 2016 04:14 PM (hLRSq)

310 Backwardsboy, I checked the days threads, you have two firsts and both in a row, I'll be looking for the block.

You may just get it. I'm playing Suzie Homemaker now so I'll be back and forth at the old laptop for the remainder of the afternoon.

But, some competition would be fun.

It's on...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 12, 2016 04:14 PM (LUgeY)

311 Ok, so what records has Cruz sealed now?
Posted by: chique testing testing at January 12, 2016 04:12 PM (Pby3z)

Other poster was possibly referring to envelopes Cruz once licked and sealed before sending in the mail.

Posted by: filbert at January 12, 2016 04:14 PM (s5o+q)

312 Sorry, who's pitching a fit, bitches? Trump's Chumps, or the GOPe's peasantry, shiny new pitchforks in hand?

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 12, 2016 04:14 PM (xuouz)

313 The Pentagon says it briefly lost contact with two small Navy craft in the Persian Gulf on Tuesday but has received assurances from Iran that the crew and vessels will be returned safely and promptly.

Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook tells The Associated Press that the boats were moving between Kuwait and Bahrain when the US lost contact with them.

Cook says, "We have been in contact with Iran and have received assurances that the crew and the vessels will be returned promptly."

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2016 04:14 PM (gf8BH)

314 Tribe is also the guy who said Cruz was the smartest guy he had ever taught.

Maybe he's just trying to get back in the good graces of the DNC Mob with his latest horse shit.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 12, 2016 04:14 PM (jJRIy)

315 Because classy.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 12, 2016 03:56 PM (1xUj/)

So luxurious, like you wouldn't believe.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 12, 2016 04:14 PM (mf5HN)

316 Can't he interview people for the job on "The Apprentice - Special VP Edition?"

------------

Ratings gold.

Posted by: SH at January 12, 2016 04:14 PM (gmeXX)

317
216 Look at what a firestorm it has caused as a result. Trump knows how to weaponize and manipulate the media to his advantage. I know it sucks when it's your guy who's on the receiving end of the sh*t storm, but Cruz had to go. He was in the way of Trump, and that guy likes to win and win big.Posted by: other joe_mama at January 12, 2016 03:52 PM (13W9U)

Yeah, that Trump: he's like unto a god and stuff. Machiavelli in a can, I'm tellin' ya. Don't get in the way of that guy, nossireebob.

You Trumppeople manage to pull this off and win for him the presidency, then yes, we as a nation will truly be getting what we deserve.
Posted by: troyriser at January 12, 2016 04:00 PM (UWlp+)

Man, you guys and your political hipsterism. Sheesh.

Posted by: other joe_mama at January 12, 2016 04:14 PM (13W9U)

318 Simple solution,
invade Canada and annex it.

Posted by: Iblis at January 12, 2016 04:14 PM (9221z)

319 Looking around for info on the Navy boats looked at Diplomad 2.0.
He points out Cruz had rights from Canada same as Barack has rights to Nigerian Citizenship. Cruz passed up on his, he Barak?

Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2016 04:14 PM (3ZgzE)

320 Test

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 12, 2016 04:15 PM (RcpcZ)

321 It's two small Navy Crafts in Iranian custody.
.
Posted by: Carol at January 12, 2016 04:02 PM (sj3Ax)

Have no fear Barry will spring into action.
#bringbackourboats.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 12, 2016 04:15 PM (493sH)

322 x at 204: "building a wall and deporting illegals is more conservative than anything the other gop candidates will even say, much less do."

Yes, and these pretty words were mouthed by the same man who, four short years ago, thought Mitt Romney's self-deportation plan was too extreme.

Hey, I hear Bernie Sanders says he's all about kickin' out some Mexicans. Feel the Bern! He's severely conservative!

Posted by: Pastafarian at January 12, 2016 04:15 PM (LqrRo)

323 1980? Because that's the last time the Republican party ran the most conservative candidate that could win.

Do you regret Reagan's two terms? You regret that GHW Bush had to wait those 8 long years?
Posted by: Pastafarian at January 12, 2016 04:11 PM (LqrRo)

******

As I am sure you are well aware, that was the rallying cry in 08 and 12. Fooled me twice, they did, so shame on me. No more.

Posted by: Tim in GA at January 12, 2016 04:15 PM (XfyNr)

324 Yeah, I like Cruz, and I think a Trump/Cruz ticket is what we might get.

But the ABSOLUTE TRUTH my Betters in GOP leadership for me is this, they have told me for the last facking time who I must support. I did it for McCain and Romney despite all the indicators that they were going to lose.

The consultant class of the GOP has damn near wrecked this country. I am done with them and all their works. They can FOAD for all I care.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 12, 2016 04:15 PM (kXoT0)

325 Fredo has made us a laughing stock

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2016 04:15 PM (gf8BH)

326

Posted by: Chris Vaughn at January 12, 2016 04:15 PM (Bcqod)

327 I do think the Democrats have too much of a say in who the Republican nominee is-

because so many of the early states have open primaries.

If there a real Hillary!/Sanders dogfight at the polls, yeah, no worries.

But, if one collapses early...well....

One of the things I would like President Trump or President Cruz to do is-

tell state parties who have open primaries (and where the GOP run the state) that their votes will not be counted henceforth in the nominating process-

until they've closed the open primaries.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 12, 2016 04:15 PM (0cMkb)

328 I really do wonder who Trump will choose as his VP.

I will suggest John Taffer.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 12, 2016 04:15 PM (8ZskC)

329 Posted by: pyromancer76 at January 12, 2016 04:12 PM (sPfLU)

Dude, Trump recently said he supports single payer. And can you tell me he would really have a hard core conservative voting record were he in office?

I understand why Trump is a lot of people's first choice, but come on now, let's be honest with ourselves.

Posted by: chique testing testing at January 12, 2016 04:15 PM (Pby3z)

330 State party's are private organizations, the suit would be in state court in my opinion.

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Yes, but ultimately, the Court would have jurisdiction - on appeal. Of course diversity of jurisdiction so if Texas (for Cruz), then state court. Any other state, federal?

Posted by: SH at January 12, 2016 04:16 PM (gmeXX)

331 What is?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 12, 2016 04:11 PM (493sH)

Shhhh.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 12, 2016 04:16 PM (LUgeY)

332
Somebody help me out. So there's natural born and naturalized as categories. What's the other?
Posted by: chique testing testing

Birth
Derivative
"Uhhh -- I forget the third one..."
Naturalized
Act of Congress*

*That one's always a 5 pointer on the AP History test

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 12, 2016 04:16 PM (kdS6q)

333
Ya'll took the class Conflict 101 too seriously. It's the primary season. This is what always happens. Right now, both Cruz and Trump want to win. It really is a contest. Or is competitiveness and oneupmanship too traumatic?
Posted by: Soona at January 12, 2016 04:13 PM (Fmupd)

Haha, no kidding right? For all intents and purposes, Trump and Cruz have really pulled their punches on each other.

Posted by: other joe_mama at January 12, 2016 04:16 PM (13W9U)

334 With all the substantive issues facing this
country, going after Cruz because he's gaining in the polls shows Trump
really doesn't want to govern, he just wants to win.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 12, 2016 04:07 PM (B8JRQ)

Have you read Steyn's latest?
http://www.steynonline.com/7408/notes-on-a-phenomenon

Look at the point where he talks about Trump's message discipline and using 10~ minutes to make fun of O'Malley.

I'll just note that what Trump is doing has been working for Trump quite well. I don't have any advice for him to better win the crowd and build support.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 12, 2016 04:16 PM (0NdlF)

335 Cruz is eligible but the fact he had dual citizenship up until 2014 is telling. He also held most of the globalist positions up until 5 minutes ago. His backers are globalists too.

Posted by: Chris Vaughn at January 12, 2016 04:16 PM (Bcqod)

336 We're back.

Did you miss us?

Posted by: Chickens at Roost at January 12, 2016 04:16 PM (bpn7O)

337 PENTAGON: 2 US NAVY BOATS HELD BY IRAN BUT WILL BE RETURNED

What THE FUCKIN HELL!

WHO THE FUCK IS IN CHARGE HERE!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2016 04:12 PM (gf8BH)

A bunch of PC limp wristed weenies

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 12, 2016 04:16 PM (493sH)

338 A U.S. military official says Cuba will attend an annual Caribbean security conference for the first time in another sign of normal relations between the long-hostile nations.

Marine Corps Gen. John F. Kelly says Cuba has accepted an invitation to send a delegation to the Caribbean Nations Security Conference. The three-day event co-hosted by U.S. Southern Command will be this month in Jamaica. Most countries in the region usually take part with the exception of Cuba and Venezuela. The conference focuses on co-operation against drug trafficking and other crime.

Cuba was invited due to the agreement establishing normal relations with the U.S. Kelly portrayed it as a significant development Tuesday in an interview marking the end of his leadership of Southern Command. The Cuban government had no immediate comment.

Sigh..we are now in bed with our enemiesw

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2016 04:17 PM (gf8BH)

339 Man this electing Trump stuff is hard. It hasn't been this rough since Reagan.

Posted by: Drider at January 12, 2016 04:18 PM (6Xbsz)

340 European woman assaulted on camera:

https://goo.gl/HaUeZN

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 12, 2016 04:18 PM (iQIUe)

341 151 133 Cruz ever put gravy on his fries ?
Posted by: Irony at January 12, 2016 03:44 PM (E7zwb)

That's like a Southeast PA thing. With cheese.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 12, 2016 03:46 PM (zLP1L)

Well, it's more a Jersey thing. Philly might as well be part of Jersey, though.

Posted by: Hikaru at January 12, 2016 04:18 PM (WDCYi)

342 PENTAGON: 2 US NAVY BOATS HELD BY IRAN BUT WILL BE RETURNED

What THE FUCKIN HELL!

WHO THE FUCK IS IN CHARGE HERE!

One million quatloos to the first Repumpkin who mentions this at the STFU gabfest tonight.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 12, 2016 04:18 PM (LUgeY)

343 Barack has rights to Nigerian Citizenship. Cruz passed up on his, he Barak?
Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2016 04:14 PM (3ZgzE)

Please, Obama has no ties to Nigeria. We have enough problems of our own. The Kenyans love him and they can keep him.

Posted by: chique testing testing at January 12, 2016 04:18 PM (Pby3z)

344
Posted by: Pastafarian at January 12, 2016 04:15 PM (LqrRo)

Which variety of psilocybin mushrooms are you growing now?

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 12, 2016 04:19 PM (RcpcZ)

345 Proof positive Cruz isn't Canadian: they wouldn't have him.

The McKenzie Brothers he is not.

Posted by: Xerxes at January 12, 2016 04:19 PM (Uq9ly)

346 The timing of this 'incident' is very interesting. The President gives
important speech tonight. And Iran seizes a couple of small ships.

I
think Iran is finally moving into the end game of destroying the legacy
of their useful tool while further establishing their hegemony in the
Middle East.

College US history professor whined that Carter deserved all the credit for the resolution of the Iran hostage crisis, but it just happened to be timed so that it looked bad for him.

Completely missed that that the timing was Iran's demonstration of contempt for Carter's weakness.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 12, 2016 04:20 PM (0NdlF)

347
No Rapey Tuesday post?

What kind of half-assed Ewok are we raising here, Horde?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 12, 2016 04:20 PM (j4wsR)

348
NEW NAVY BRASS:

We regret we only had two boats to give to your country.

Posted by: fixerupper at January 12, 2016 04:20 PM (8XRCm)

349 Fredo has made us a laughing stock

I saw the chyron on CNN this morning at the gym. It said Putt was going to use the STFU to "focus on the positive." Let's see... our allies don't trust us, our enemies don't fear us, the economy is in the shitter, racial strife has hit an all-time high, corrupt kleptocrats walk free because they're connected, we're importing a shitload of ME terrorists, America's own Red Guards are coalescing on college campuses...

Should be a very short speech.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 12, 2016 04:20 PM (8ZskC)

350
Pentagon: 2 Navy boats in Iranian custody but Iran tells US that crew will be returned 'promptly'

http://apne.ws/22YeMYA

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 12, 2016 04:21 PM (iQIUe)

351 Two small boats, like the Captain's gig?

We have 'assurances' that Iran will return them?

They were in transit, and presumably in a recognized international transit lane. How do you stop a Navy vessel? You call them on the radio and tell them to stop and put out a boarding ladder?

Next thing we'll hear about US B-52s flying in the South China Sea being ordered to land in China for customs inspections.

Posted by: Benson, C.46 at January 12, 2016 04:21 PM (EyTak)

352 America, the planet's helpless giant.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 12, 2016 04:22 PM (8ZskC)

353 Maybe the anti-Trumpers are right. Maybe we should sit this one out.

Chairman Bernie promises 100 % employment and cabbage for all.

Posted by: Mortimer at January 12, 2016 04:22 PM (7wqb3)

354 314 Tribe is also the guy who said Cruz was the smartest guy he had ever taught.

Maybe he's just trying to get back in the good graces of the DNC Mob with his latest horse shit.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 12, 2016 04:14 PM (jJRIy)

I think that was Dershowitz, not Tribe.

Posted by: Iblis at January 12, 2016 04:22 PM (9221z)

355 With the left weighing in, too, it would be great if Republicans took the initiative to actually define a process for verifying that a candidate is eligible for the Presidency.

Maybe the press would finally start considering Cruz a hispanic, though...

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 12, 2016 04:22 PM (2lndx)

356 We have 'assurances' that Iran will return them?

Yes, right after Iran doesn't build a nuclear weapon.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 12, 2016 04:22 PM (8ZskC)

357 No Rapey Tuesday post?

What kind of half-assed Ewok are we raising here, Horde?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 12, 2016 04:20 PM (j4wsR)

BC and I's podcast is chock full o'Rapey Tuesday goodness!

Wait. That doesn't sound right.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 12, 2016 04:23 PM (mf5HN)

358 "Meanwhile, the bitter and corrupt corporate toady Mitch McConnell says the Senate will not offer a declaration stating that Cruz is a citizen -- something they did for fellow corporate toady John McCain."

Okay. This is the moment, Ace, when you have officially put support of your current views ahead of a fair presentation of the truth. (Oh, I mean, except for those times you lied to us, which you confessed to a while back. Most other people seem to have forgotten, or at least forgiven, that. I haven't.)

McCain's natural-born citizenship resolution was introduced, considered, and passed in April 2008. Mitch McConnell had nothing to do with that resolution, except for voting for it. Which party was in charge of the Senate? Democrats. Which senator submitted that resolution? Claire McCaskill. Among its six sponsors, I see only ONE Republican name -- Tom Coburn. The others? McCaskill, Patrick Leahy, Jim Webb...and Hillary Clinton...and Barack Obama.

The presentation and passing of that resolution was obviously a partisan move, meant to take the wind out of the sails of the Obama birther movement. Notice how both leading Democratic presidential contenders, including the man who (at that point) was leading the delegate count and whose own birth was in question, very conspicuously made sure to support the idea that McCain was an American citizen by birth. That way, if McCain decided to ally with the birthers later, they'd have a great line. "Barack Obama thinks John McCain is an American. We just wish Senator McCain thought the same thing about Senator Obama." Boom, implied racism -- McCain obviously thinks Obama is not a real American because Obama is black.

So why doesn't Mitch McConnell want to pass a resolution stating that Ted Cruz is an American citizen, just like Harry Reid and Claire McCaskill did for John McCain? Maybe because McConnell doesn't think it's in any doubt, and doesn't want to waste Senate time on a meaningless symbolic gesture? Cruz is obviously an American citizen. Anyone who thinks differently is a moron, not worth the trouble of reasoning with. And McConnell has refused to do things before on the grounds that he thought they were a waste of time. This alternative explanation is at least a possibility.

But no, you immediately leap to whatever conclusion supports your bias. McConnell won't follow in Harry Reid's footsteps because...corporate toadyism. Yes, it's so obvious, so simple. And in the process, you have now insulted Mitch McConnell for not running the Senate like HARRY F'N REID.

Ouroboros wept.

Posted by: Demosthenes at January 12, 2016 04:23 PM (9V0rz)

359 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 12, 2016 04:20 PM (8ZskC)

well, he and his family have gone on some really cool vacations. That's positive, right?

and I like my android phone, but why the heck will it not capitalize at the beginning of sentences like the iPhones do? what's the use of using the dictation software if I have to go back and manually capitalize words?

Posted by: chique testing testing at January 12, 2016 04:23 PM (Pby3z)

360 Should be a very short speech.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 12, 2016 04:20 PM (8ZskC)

*****

I wish that were true. He is going to be talking about, get this, himself. I see no way that will be a short speech.

Posted by: Tim in GA at January 12, 2016 04:23 PM (XfyNr)

361 Pentagon: 2 Navy boats in Iranian custody but Iran tells US that crew will be returned 'promptly'

http://apne.ws/22YeMYA
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 12, 2016 04:21 PM (iQIUe)

Yeah I saw that: THE CREW?

What about the fuckin boats...This is not Arab baazar...

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2016 04:23 PM (gf8BH)

362 I'll just note that what Trump is doing has been working for Trump quite well. I don't have any advice for him to better win the crowd and build support.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 12, 2016 04:16 PM (0NdlF)

Same here and if he wins the nomination and offers Cruz the VP slot, I predict that Cruz accepts. It's no small resume enhancer to be VPOTUS. Look how far Cankles has taken being FLOTUS.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 12, 2016 04:23 PM (kXoT0)

363 Chairman Bernie promises 100 % employment and cabbage for all.

Also, individual "Reliability Ratings."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 12, 2016 04:23 PM (8ZskC)

364 when Torricelli was forced out if the Senate r

Replace illegally by Bill Clinton's "order".

Posted by: DaveA at January 12, 2016 04:24 PM (DL2i+)

365 PENTAGON: 2 US NAVY BOATS HELD BY IRAN BUT WILL BE RETURNED

- - - -

Yup, in 444 days.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 12, 2016 04:24 PM (r65B3)

366 Commie News Network had Tribe on last night. He praised Cruz for being a very smart student. Then went to call him an opportunistic Strict Constructionist.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 12, 2016 04:24 PM (3UF/W)

367 Hey, imagine a fist fight in the NFL. Season long suspensions hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Hockey? 2 f'n minutes.

Hate to be the Hockey Rules Nazi, but it's5 f'n minutes for fighting.

Point stands. I'll take hockey over nfl pink if push comes to shove.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 12, 2016 04:24 PM (lADRM)

368 CozMark at 214: This is a very good counter to my suggestion. About the only thing I would question:

Are there really that many working-class white semi-conservative Democrats? What are we talking about here as a percentage?

These are people who would have to be employed, or aspire to be employed, so that removes a big percentage of Democrats from the equation. This fraction of a fraction of Democrats might represent, say, 10% of all Democrats. That's not enough to give Trump the lead he has -- that's just a fraction of his total support.

Posted by: Pastafarian at January 12, 2016 04:24 PM (LqrRo)

369 IIRC, the last time the Iranians did this, it was with a couple of small Royal Navy boats.

They returned the crew in demob suits.

Get ready for the nonstop carnival of humiliation that will be the last year of this regime.

Posted by: Patrick Carroll at January 12, 2016 04:24 PM (bpn7O)

370 I see no way that will be a short speech.
Posted by: Tim in GA at January 12, 2016 04:23 PM (XfyNr)

I do...I'll be watching the History Channel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 12, 2016 04:24 PM (gf8BH)

371 With the left weighing in, too, it would be great if Republicans took the initiative to actually define a process for verifying that a candidate is eligible for the Presidency.

Maybe the press would finally start considering Cruz a hispanic, though...

I really really wanted Romney to present his BC to Congress back in '012. Naturally, he didn't have the cojones, but still, it would've been great political theater of the absurd.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 12, 2016 04:24 PM (LUgeY)

372 @362...I am good with the thought of Trump/Cruz 2016

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 12, 2016 04:25 PM (7lqMl)

373 The circle firing squad begins.

I hate to say this, but Pat Caddell on Fox is probably going to be right.

Dead locked convention and Mitt rides in to the rescue.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 12, 2016 04:25 PM (jJRIy)

374 #340 That was hard to watch that North African man creep that woman.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 12, 2016 04:26 PM (kXoT0)

375 BC and I's podcast is chock full ~~o'Rapey Tuesday~~ profanity and yelling goodness!

Fixed for clarity???

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 12, 2016 04:26 PM (3UF/W)

376 You won't vote for Cruz because you think he's ineligible? Fine. Don't vote for him. That's your prerogative. And my prerogative is that I won't be voting for Trump under any circumstances.

Posted by: Naes at January 12, 2016 04:26 PM (Ypc8j)

377 >>>new thread about how CBS says Nancy Drew can be anyone but a white chick.
Posted by: Iblis at

So...do anything but stay true to the books I guess?

Posted by: Lea at January 12, 2016 04:26 PM (vmMMi)

378 Nood.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 12, 2016 04:26 PM (LUgeY)

379 "WHO THE FUCK IS IN CHARGE HERE!"

Nutless, Shiftless, and, Dickless from the looks of things.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 12, 2016 04:26 PM (LA7Cm)

380
The Navy lost contact with the ships. They were probably too busy removing the word man from all titles to be bothered with the ships.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 12, 2016 04:26 PM (493sH)

381 Someone please remind the Class Three Guild Navigator from Kentucky that the spice won't necessarily flow to Kentucky if he pisses off the next Padishah Emperor.

He IS replaceable no matter what he believes about his own importance.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 12, 2016 04:26 PM (dLr9j)

382 Mark Levin has reviewed this stupid Cruz manufactured crisis every night now for two or three weeks. He has cited a 1971 court case, Brown vs. ? in which the Supreme Court determined what was meant by natural born citizen in the constitution.

Cruz was born to an American citizen(his mother) who was living at the time in Canada. It wouldn't matter where he was born(there are babies born every day in Germany, in Guam, in Japan, etc. to our military servicemen and women and they are American citizens). Just like Juan McCain was born in Panama because his father was stationed there, making him not a Panamanian, but an American citizen.

Cruz' duel citizenship with Canada made it much easier for him to cross the border (which I have read he used in college to go to Canada with his buddies). Some countries, such as France, would allow duel citizens of the USA and France to use the French universal insurance system for medical care in the states, and that included their immediate family(have a naturalized friend who maintained his duel citizenship with France just for that reason). So why give it up if you don't have to.

Posted by: Jen the original at January 12, 2016 04:26 PM (O0Kvv)

383 Pentagon: 2 Navy boats in Iranian custody but Iran tells US that crew will be returned 'promptly'

http://apne.ws/22YeMYA
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 12, 2016 04:21 PM (iQIUe)

Note there's nothing in there about the boats being returned.

Casus what again?

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 12, 2016 04:26 PM (mf5HN)

384 @362...I am good with the thought of Trump/Cruz 2016
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 12, 2016 04:25 PM (7lqMl)

Same here, especially if they win and Trump gets bored with the whole schmear and bails in 2020 leaving Cruz as his natural successor.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 12, 2016 04:27 PM (kXoT0)

385
Navy "boats"??

Doesnt that infer submarines.???

Posted by: fixerupper at January 12, 2016 04:27 PM (8XRCm)

386 ***"Who here believes that it is completely out of the realm of possibility that if Trump does implode and Cruz has the delegates to win that some establishment hacks will try to have him disqualified before the convention so they can pick one of their preferred stooges?***"

And then when support for that stooge craters and the Republican turnout is lower than both McCain and Rombley, we'll be treated to disloyalty speeches and hectoring from the Erricksons of the Right.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 12, 2016 04:29 PM (Wckf4)

387 Fine rickb223, more NFL for me. Seriously, I'm from Texas, we had 1 ice rink in Austin when I was growing up.

Hockey isn't all that much fun to watch if you've never even had a pair of ice skates on your feet.

Posted by: CozMark at January 12, 2016 04:30 PM (BjOkm)

388
Cruz' duel citizenship with Canada made it much easier for him to cross the border (which I have read he used in college to go to Canada with his buddies). Some countries, such as France, would allow duel citizens of the USA and France to use the French universal insurance system for medical care in the states, and that included their immediate family(have a naturalized friend who maintained his duel citizenship with France just for that reason). So why give it up if you don't have to.
Posted by: Jen the original

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Maybe if you're going to be a US Senator and run for President, you could maybe decide to not look like you're hedging your bets about where your loyalties lie?

How would you feel if someone was born in Mexico and kept their Mexican citizenship while they were still a US Senator?

Posted by: Tobasco at January 12, 2016 04:30 PM (kaR4c)

389 Cavuto had a guy on who said his son was in Navy on riverine craft in that area so is assuming that's what was taken. I'm not up on Navy craft but thinking like a WW II pt boat or a Vietnam Era craft like in Apocalypse Now.

Posted by: Skip at January 12, 2016 04:30 PM (3ZgzE)

390 We did get the EP-3C Orion back from the PRC after their jet collided with it. In chunks. But probably because the aircrew thoroughly junked all the sensitive goodies.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 12, 2016 04:30 PM (3UF/W)

391 Same here and if he wins the nomination and offers Cruz the VP slot, I predict that Cruz accepts. It's no small resume enhancer to be VPOTUS. Look how far Cankles has taken being FLOTUS.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 12, 2016 04:23 PM (kXoT0)
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Why on earth would Cruz do that? He has no power as veep, but will be co-responsible for all the less-than-conservative stuff that would come out of a Trump White House. Thats kinda unfortunate when you have styled yourself as Mr Conservative.

And while he may have good chances to be nominated in 2024, assuming a Trump reelection in 2020, he would probably lose the general, since parties dont keep the White House for more than 8 years right now.

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 12, 2016 04:31 PM (IgokJ)

392 I think that was Dershowitz, not Tribe.

Posted by: Iblis at January 12, 2016 04:22 PM (9221z)

Yeah, you may be right. They all look and sound alike.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 12, 2016 04:31 PM (jJRIy)

393 Posted by: Demosthenes at January 12, 2016 04:23 PM (9V0rz)

Yes, The Turtle's 11-dimensional Chess has been quite the success so far.

Obama's been stymied at every-

Oh, wait Obama hasn't been stymied at al. He's gotten everything he's asked for and more.

I'm sure Obama would absolutely hate Cruz as our next president...

perhaps he offered McConnell extra flies in his Turtle Chow(TM).

Posted by: naturalfake at January 12, 2016 04:32 PM (0cMkb)

394 47 Cruz is great and all, but he did have dual citizenship until 2014. I have a bigger issue with that than with him being born in Canada.

*************

Nothing in the Constitution or US Statutes forbids any American from being a dual citizen.

Politically, it's dicey---which is why Cruz renounced his Canadian citizenship---which he got automatically at birth.

What's the problem?

Posted by: Saj Astar at January 12, 2016 04:32 PM (FkgZk)

395 For anyone who wasn't born at a hospital with good-record keeping located in one of the 50 state to parents who were both US citizens at the time, there's an issue. And that includes you John McCain. All these articles and punditry do is show that there is an issue that lawyers can make hay of.

Now the real question: Can any of the 50 states make this an issue by how they run their state ballots? Because this issue hasn't been litigated before doesn't mean that Democrats won't try this cycle. Would Trump not pick Cruz as his VP because of this risk?

Else this is just Trump punking Cruz to take Cruz down a couple of points in Iowa.

Neither of Rubio's parents were US citizens when he was born in Miami. So there's an argument that he wasn't natural born, unless you believe in Anchor Babies.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 12, 2016 04:33 PM (r1fLd)

396 Trump is not going to offer Cruz the VP slot, what new voter does Cruz bring that Trump doesn't already have in the bag?

Cruz would not accept anyway. He would rather be a Senator and be able to separate himself from Trump if things don't work out. A VP would have to toe the line for everything Trump does.

Posted by: Tobasco at January 12, 2016 04:34 PM (kaR4c)

397 I can understand why people go on about Cruz, he is a decent fellow and pretty much my number two.

But the fact is that Trump is the one filling the stadiums, he is the one taking it to the other side. He is the one commanding all of the spotlight.
I think it's best we all go down in flames as a winner this time around instead of a loser. Thats all I'm trying to point out.

Line up!

Posted by: Drider at January 12, 2016 04:36 PM (6Xbsz)

398 an any of the 50 states make this an issue by how they run their state ballots?

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Sure they could. The states are free to interpret the Constitution. If a state determines that Cruz is ineligible, then the state could deny him access to a ballot. Cruz would then have standing and a case, which he would presumably win.

Posted by: SH at January 12, 2016 04:36 PM (gmeXX)

399
...but Iran tells US that crew will be returned 'promptly'

After they finish raping Ginger and Mary Ann.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 12, 2016 04:36 PM (RcpcZ)

400 Ghost of Kari at 4:00pm: Fair enough.

And I'll agree with you -- he's the right tool for the job, if the job is the destruction of the Republican party.

I'm as disgusted as everyone else is here, with McConnell and Boehner and Failure Theater. But the answer has never been "Burn it down and salt the earth". That's defeatist. As bad as things have become, they can get one hell of a lot worse, if we allow Sanders or Clinton in to make at least 3 SCOTUS appointments. At that point, we'll be done as a nation.

If you're not in support of Republicans, you're supporting Democrats. Don't like the Republicans we've had? Then nominate more conservative Republicans -- not Democrats like Trump. Even if Trump wins, he'll be the big deal-maker and he'll make compromises with congress that you won't believe, they'll be so yuuuge and classy.

And when the economy tanks, as it will, Republicans will get the blame -- even though it's a Democrat doing the damage. Disastrous. Trump would serve one terrible term, running up the deficit and nominating his sister and Ivanka's cousin for SCOTUS, and then we'll have President Michelle Obama, or whatever goddamned socialist they decide to ram down our throats.

And they will. Because the Democrats will always nominate the most liberal candidate that has a chance to win, and advance that ratchet ever leftward.

Posted by: Pastafarian at January 12, 2016 04:37 PM (LqrRo)

401 #169. It would've been great to be able to blame the Dems for Trump, and I personally believe he is this as a splitter for his friends, the Clintons, but it's on the Trumpkinheads themselves for how eagerly, uncritically and confrontationally they've embraced him.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 12, 2016 04:40 PM (foEOh)

402 @362...I am good with the thought of Trump/Cruz 2016

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 12, 2016 04:25 PM (7lqMl)

Me too.

Trump's 69. He'll certainly stay for one term and I would expect part of his 2nd (if not all).

My guess would be, if Trump really wants his (conservative?) changes cemented-

he'll bail at the exact point where Cruz can finish out his term and still have two more terms of his own.

If people like Trump, like what's happening. Then they get to see Cruz doing the same thing and that sets up Cruz for two of his own terms.

I guess we'll know who Trump really is based on his Veep choice.

That being said, I'm a Cruz guy but I can live with Trump.

None of the others interest me at all.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 12, 2016 04:42 PM (0cMkb)

403 " it's on the Trumpkinheads themselves for how eagerly, uncritically and confrontationally they've embraced him."

Oh, you betcha.

Posted by: Drider at January 12, 2016 04:42 PM (6Xbsz)

404
Any SE Michigan morons out there?

Jinx the Cat will be visiting the Washtenaw / Livingston county area this weekend; Jinx & I are going to have a mini mo-me either Friday night or Sunday afternoon, probably in the Brighton area.

Sorry for the short notice, I meant to pimp this over the past weekend but real life interviened.

If you're interested, e-mail me at "heywoodblogger" on the yahooo thingie, or contact me through Teh Group

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 12, 2016 04:43 PM (ZQfW9)

405 Cruz is great and all, but he did have dual citizenship until 2014. I have a bigger issue with that than with him being born in Canada.

to me, that is a big issue

clearly he knew this was a liability which is why he dumped it eventually, but still being a Canadian citizen while being a US Senator doesn't exactly strike me as Mr. Loves America

Be honest, if Barack Obama had been born in Kenya and had kept his Kenyan citizenship while he was a Senator, would that not have disgusted you? It would have me

I'll pull the lever for Cruz if he's the nominee, but he really smacks of opportunism at every opportunity

Posted by: Tobasco at January 12, 2016 04:44 PM (kaR4c)

406 Are there really that many working-class white semi-conservative Democrats? What are we talking about here as a percentage?

Posted by: Pastafarian at January 12, 2016 04:24 PM (LqrRo)

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I can't give a specific number however, in my experience, working class people tend to be blunt and not known for their political correctness. So there's a bunch of ex-union people who have been indoctrinated by their former unions that illegals are screwing them out of their jobs. I think Trump would appeal to working class voters based on that. That's how Trump won them over from the Democrats and he keeps on wooing them with his blunt talk on other issues.

I keep seeing that Trump is garnering 20% of the Democrat vote. I think a large portion of them are former working class Democrat voters who think they can have a voice again. Maybe the rest are just people that also think that the Democrat party has left them behind too by supporting the SJWs. The important thing is that the Democrats aren't tailoring a message toward them anymore and Trump, inadvertently, is.

Posted by: CozMark at January 12, 2016 04:46 PM (ES+x/)

407 Cadbury Creme egg sales plunge by �10million due to new recipe...yes different taste since Cadbury became Halal

http://dailym.ai/1l1oqYd

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They never seem to consider the non muslims.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 12, 2016 04:47 PM (iQIUe)

408 Cruz' duel citizenship with Canada made it much easier for him to cross the border (which I have read he used in college to go to Canada with his buddies).
Posted by: Jen the original at January 12, 2016 04:26 PM (O0Kvv)

It used to be very, very easy in pre-9/11 days to cross the northern border. I did it a bunch of time and it wasn't a hassle, and I don't have dual citizenship. That was in the '80's and early '90's.

So I'm not sure that would be a good reason to have dual citizenship with the Canucks. I have known people who have dual Irish/American citizenship. You can get it if you have a grandparent who was born in the Republic of Ireland. A guy I know who got it wasn't even all that interested in Ireland - he wanted to teach English in France and it's much easier to do that if you are a citizen of a country in the EU.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present moment) at January 12, 2016 04:48 PM (u0lmX)

409 Meanwhile, the bitter and corrupt corporate toady Mitch McConnell says the Senate will not offer a declaration stating that Cruz is a citizen

I actually agree with this, since the Senate doesn't have the power to make any such declarations with any force. It isn't the Senate's job nor within its duties, though it was nice that they pretended to take the Constitution somewhat seriously on that (even if their action was outside of said Constitution and totally meaningless).

-- something they did for fellow corporate toady John McCain.

BTW, it was a non-binding resolution they passed for McShame, co-sponsored by Barky (though I'm sure people have already noted this above). Funny how Barky could have been one of those pushing that BS resolution but then acted so offended when anyone asked for proof that he was eligible - which he wasn't.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 12, 2016 04:49 PM (zc3Db)

410 Cruz' duel citizenship with Canada made it much easier for him to cross the border (which I have read he used in college to go to Canada with his buddies).

Posted by: Jen the original at January 12, 2016 04:26 PM (O0Kvv)

Dual-citizenship often makes it more difficult to cross from one country of citizenship to another on a round trip, not easier, since you are bound to both countries in special ways and have to deal with which passport you use, etc.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 12, 2016 04:52 PM (zc3Db)

411 think it's best we all go down in flames as a winner this time around instead of a loser. Posted by: Drider at January 12, 2016 04:36 PM (6Xbsz)

How do you go down in flames as a winner?

That's a suicide bomber mentality.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present moment) at January 12, 2016 04:53 PM (u0lmX)

412 Cruz' duel citizenship with Canada made it much easier for him to cross the border (which I have read he used in college to go to Canada with his buddies).
Posted by: Jen the original at January 12, 2016

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To me, this is really a stupid reason if that's his stated reason. And how often are you really traveling to Canada from Texas?

He kept it because he thought he might someday want to live there.

Again, if Obama was born in Kenya and kept his Kenyan citizenship while he was a Senator, it looks really bad, like his current country is more something of convenience than his actual beloved homeland

Posted by: Tobasco at January 12, 2016 04:55 PM (kaR4c)

413 Ted could clear this issue up in 2 seconds. Release the immigration records that he had sealed. Unfortunately that would likely open a can of worms and he would further sink in the polls just like Hillary. Trump is the master. He is smoking out the fraud and Cruz is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Nowhere to go. Pass the popcorn!

Posted by: John Falco at January 12, 2016 04:56 PM (pZyrD)

414 Just want the Trump fans to remember who started it when Cruz unleashes on The Donald.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 12, 2016 04:58 PM (L8slQ)

415 "Just want the Trump fans to remember who started it when Cruz unleashes on The Donald."

It is a contest up for grabs.

Cruz needs to hurry up with whatever he has in mind because if he loses Iowa and South Carolina then word has it, it's a wash.

Posted by: Drider at January 12, 2016 05:00 PM (6Xbsz)

416 Just want the Trump fans to remember who started it when Cruz unleashes on The Donald.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky

yea, except Trump is now leading Cruz in Iowa according to Quinnipiac

Cruz being born in Canada is going to hurt him, if he loses Iowa, it's over. Now Cruz is backtracking on Ethanol and wants to keep the program in place

Posted by: Tobasco at January 12, 2016 05:01 PM (kaR4c)

417 If you accept the Birther definition of 'native born' you cannot vote for anyone not born in the original 13 states in existence at the time the Constitution was ratified.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 12, 2016 05:02 PM (foEOh)

418 If you accept the Birther definition of 'native born' you cannot vote for anyone not born in the original 13 states in existence at the time the Constitution was ratified.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 12, 2016 05:02 PM (foEOh)

LOL.

You managed to squeeze more stupid mistakes into one sentence than I have seen in quite some time. Near-epic!

Congratulations.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 12, 2016 05:04 PM (zc3Db)

419 If you accept the Birther definition of 'native born' you cannot vote for anyone not born in the original 13 states in existence at the time the Constitution was ratified.
Posted by: Richard McEnroe

That's pretty absurd

I guess the Bill of Rights only applies to the original 13 as well?

Posted by: Tobasco at January 12, 2016 05:05 PM (kaR4c)

420 "If you accept the Birther definition of 'native born' you cannot vote for anyone not born in the original 13 states in existence at the time the Constitution was ratified. "

I love how people here, pundits too, are willfully ignorant.

There is a Grandfather Clause that the founders explicitly wrote for themselves.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 12, 2016 05:08 PM (qxh95)

421 I seem to remember as if it was yesterday that everyone said that Reagan wasn't a conservative. Everyone in both parties, the media, the pundits all hated the man.

Ahh well. Onward.

Posted by: Drider at January 12, 2016 05:10 PM (6Xbsz)

422 "I love how people here, pundits too, are willfully ignorant."

Of course, our host has mentioned willfully lying to us before.

Those establishment people stick together. Levin, Rush, etc. Misinforming their audiences for the Canadian Cruz - TPP/TPA, Corker, H1B, Amnesty, Goldman Sachs. Globalist Heidi Cruz - CFR and the North American Union.

Cruz is proud to be a North American Union Citizen too bad he's not eligible to be POTUS.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 12, 2016 05:13 PM (qxh95)

423 Ah, yes, Laurence Tribe -- wasn't he (along with that Boies guy) the biggest loser in Bush v. Gore?

I'm not sure I would rely on the Constitutional expertise of a guy that couldn't see the Florida Supreme Court had stomped all over the document.

Just sayin'

Posted by: Jimmy From Texas at January 12, 2016 05:14 PM (P09P4)

424 Whether it was meant as a kill shot or not, Trump did Cruz a favor bringing up the grumblings out there about Cruz's citizenship.

Some dork in Florida swore that if Cruz got the nomination he was going to sue and keep suing Cruz over the citizenship thing.

And being a Democrat, you know he would and he'd have the DNC money to back him.

Yet Cruz was trying to ignore this going on. Hoping it would go away. All of us here know that wasn't going to happen.

The media was lying in the bushes waiting for the opportunity to smack him with this at the best time (for them) and he would take a hit that might've been fatal.

And Trump made no claims about whether Cruz is eligible or not, he just pointed out that Cruz was going to be taken to task over it.

Now Cruz has finally responded and hopefully other stuff will also come out. Maybe even a ruling of some sort. But it will be at Cruz's timing and not the MFM or the DNC.

And Trump made that happen. And Cruz isn't so savvy a politician if he thought that his citizenship wasn't going to be made a political football.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 12, 2016 05:15 PM (Xo1Rt)

425 Sheesh, I guess all the 'conservatives' here believe in the "Living Constitution" and they call Trump a liberal.

"And, what was once a long fought leftist battle to eliminate all Constitutional foundations for sovereign government by a sovereign nation and of its sovereign citizens, has now been joined by Republicans like Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal, none of whom are actually eligible for the Oval Office, and all of whom know it."

"The people have allowed the lawyers to amend the Constitution by simply publishing a legal opinion."

- JB Willams

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 12, 2016 05:17 PM (qxh95)

426 The going blind thing is actually true.you can also go bind from viagra.
Temporarily I think.
Mp givlomh esu@@@

Posted by: andycanuck at January 12, 2016 05:18 PM (DLIIY)

427 The circular firing squad is indeed difficult to watch.
Especially when you're in the middle of it.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 12, 2016 05:20 PM (DLIIY)

428 "Just want the Trump fans to remember who started it when Cruz unleashes on The Donald."

Haha. Ok, that's funny. Trump has been taking all comers for over six months. Cruz is just the last pump and dump candidate the establishment pushed to stop Trump.

Cruz is going to nose dive back into oblivion with the rest of them.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 12, 2016 05:22 PM (qxh95)

429 It's not really a circular firing squad andy.

This was to be expected.

Posted by: Drider at January 12, 2016 05:23 PM (6Xbsz)

430 Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 12, 2016 05:15 PM (Xo1Rt)

Yep, Trump's not claiming anything. He's just asking questions. You guys sre pitiful.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 12, 2016 05:25 PM (L8slQ)

431 "The media was lying in the bushes waiting for the opportunity to smack him with this at the best time (for them) and he would take a hit that might've been fatal."

I think it's funny all the Cruz supporters have been talking tough about Cruz but he's been hiding behind Trump's skirt and riding his coattails for months. "Ohh, he's drafting from Trump."

The media is just starting to take their whacks at him and he's going down, or up to Canada.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 12, 2016 05:28 PM (qxh95)

432 Thats true Max. Trump said that he was hearing things in the grape vine that Ted needed to address when it came to his citizenship. He never once claimed that he was not a citizen.

To add to that, after Trump claimed that there were people going after it, low and behold there were. Some lefty people had all of this stuff lined up on Cruz for over a year and were ready to take him to court over it at their time of choosing.

I see nothing but cordial talk among competing candidates for the same job. It's almost gentlemanly if you think about it.

Posted by: Drider at January 12, 2016 05:29 PM (6Xbsz)

433 BTW, Max, do you have a link to your recent claim that Cruz has said he will refuse to be Trump's VP? I looked online but couldn't find such a statement from Cruz. (But then Bing was buried under a ton of birther stuff when I searched for it.)

Posted by: andycanuck at January 12, 2016 05:30 PM (DLIIY)

434 Posted by: andycanuck at January 12, 2016 05:30 PM (DLIIY)

It was in his interview with Adam Carolla. By the way , in that podcast , they played Adam's interview with both Trump and Cruz. The contrast is eye opening. You can probably find it in the Adam Carolla podcast archives.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 12, 2016 05:39 PM (L8slQ)

435 Posted by: Drider at January 12, 2016 05:29 PM (6Xbsz)

I think you missed my sarcasm.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 12, 2016 05:41 PM (L8slQ)

436 You guys extended this same courtesy to Obama, right?

Posted by: Lord Krondor at January 12, 2016 05:41 PM (2Rbt5)

437 Trump has too much integrity to choose "a maniac" (Cruz) as his running mate, I'm sure. Plus, why would Trimp want a VP who might be ineligible to hold the office? Distraction, don't ha know. /s

Trump's thuggery & cowardice ("I'm not questioning this myself, but ..." etc.) is already leaving gaping, bitter wounds, It's a fool's paradise to think this is all harmless fun.

Cruz will still be a young sitting U.S. Senator when Trimp has put HRC in the WH & been blessedly forgotten.

Posted by: mnw at January 12, 2016 05:47 PM (L282n)

438 Cruz' duel citizenship with Canada made it much easier for him to cross the border (which I have read he used in college to go to Canada with his buddies).

How? Did he have a Canadian passport? Does he travel with his birth certificate? Did the Canadian border patrol just accept it if you say 'I'm Canadian, eh.'?

Posted by: Grump928(c) is holding his head at January 12, 2016 05:50 PM (evdj2)

439 So Ted Cruz is a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy nut. Douchey putz.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 12, 2016 05:56 PM (xetep)

440 Cruz is going nowhere but I find it interesting that he's already said that Bill Clinton is off limits.

Yep, if Cruz, by some Canadian Miracle became the nominee, he'd suck up to Clinton like all the other losers - Dole, McCain, Romney.

BORING! LOSERVILLE!

Trump, on the other hand, has already said Hillary belongs in prison, he will investigate her crimes (statute of limitations), and gone after her rapist husband and he hasn't even gotten started yet.

It's going to be a blast. Join the winning team for once. Enjoy the ride. This election season is actually fun.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 12, 2016 05:59 PM (qxh95)

441 It's a damn shame David Bowie is dead, but a waste of protoplasm like Donald Trump is still drawing air.

Posted by: DRayRaven at January 12, 2016 06:01 PM (Qc2Pk)

442 In before Misfortune and Pestilence pops a skull fuse over "natural-born".
Posted by: Mortimer at January 12, 2016 03:22 PM (7wqb3)

Nope. No skull fuse. That's for the Cruzers, Levin and Rush as they watch Cruz crash and burn in Iowa and beyond.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 12, 2016 06:05 PM (qxh95)

443 "I think a state could refuse to put him on a ballot. That would certainly invite litigation, but a state does have this power.
Posted by: SH at January 12, 2016 04:06 PM (gmeXX)"

Yes, a state would have standing. Most of you don't know this but the Dems have been trying HARD to get Art. 2 amended - for 35 years now. They want for anyone, regardless of birth country, to be eligible to run for POTUS. SO, I do not think you will see general pushback from the Dems re: Cruz. This is perfect for them to further their goal towards removing the restriction on eligibility in Art. 2. Plays right into their hands. Congressional records, 1970 forward - google is your friend. Pack a lunch, you'll have a lot of reading to do.

Posted by: GrandeMe at January 12, 2016 06:28 PM (xhawg)

444 John Falco: "Ted could clear this issue up in 2 seconds. Release the immigration records that he had sealed. Unfortunately that would likely open a can of worms and he would further sink in the polls just like Hillary. Trump is the master. He is smoking out the fraud and Cruz is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Nowhere to go. Pass the popcorn!"

John, I'm curious: How long have you commented here at AoT?

Because this reads, to me, precisely as a comment would read, if written by a leftist pretending to be a conservative. And this "sealed records" nonsense sounds like the latest talking points, to be floated out there til it sinks to be replaced with some other spurious accusation. I could be wrong, of course. Bet I'm not, though.

"Pass the popcorn". Uh huh.

Posted by: Pastafarian at January 12, 2016 06:42 PM (pCf+a)

445 "Trump has been taking all comers for over six months."

So, your yardstick for "Trump's been taking all comers" is basically "candidates who were never going to be the nominee and that barely registered ended up dropping out." Wow, I've always said that Trump supporters were idiots, but you take it to a new level, Misfortune & Pestilence. Your parents must be so very proud.

The simple fact is, Trump is boorish clown who simply thinks that yelling means he'll get his way. Cruz has argued before the Supreme Court successfully; that's more than enough experience to outwit a buffoon like Trump. If Cruz really goes after him in the debate, Trump will lose. The only question is, who will cry more: Trump or his supporters.

"So Ted Cruz is a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy nut. Douchey putz."

Based on what exactly? Nothing? Eh, figures. Trump supporters can't actually explain themselves; they just wanna whine like babies (much like the guy they support). Funny, isn't it, though? Trump supporters always get mad about people pointing out that he's a liberal and would be a boon for Democrats. Well, the things that make you the angriest are the things you know are true.

Make America great again. Say no to Donald Trump.

Posted by: tops116 at January 12, 2016 06:47 PM (Wn+fE)

446 Birther-baiting? You can go blind from doing that too much, can't you?

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 12, 2016 03:19 PM (iIzG7)

I always heard hairy palms was the consequence.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 12, 2016 07:01 PM (NPofj)

447 Cruz' duel citizenship with Canada made it much
easier for him to cross the border (which I have read he used in college
to go to Canada with his buddies).

How? Did he have a Canadian passport? Does he travel with his
birth certificate? Did the Canadian border patrol just accept it if you
say 'I'm Canadian, eh.'?

Posted by: Grump928(c) is holding his head at January 12, 2016 05:50 PM (evdj2)

Grump... the comment above references a Breitbart article that had a very misleading headline in which a debate teammate of Cruz's said nothing close to "Cruz said he had dual citizenship". In fact the teammate said, while Cruz had commented on the that he had been born in Canada, he always referred to himself as only an American.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 12, 2016 07:08 PM (NPofj)

448 Cruz ain't winning Ohio. No can do.

Posted by: ... at January 12, 2016 07:08 PM (lgUno)

449 *commented on the FACT that he had been born in Canada

Posted by: redbanzai at January 12, 2016 07:10 PM (NPofj)

450 So, your yardstick for "Trump's been taking all comers" is basically "candidates who were never going to be the nominee and that barely registered ended up dropping out."

Oh please. Where have you been for the last six months? EVERY entity of the Media/Uniparty/FauxConservative/RNC/DNC/Establishment/El Chappo/Saudi Princes/Blogospherepunditry complex have been coming at Trump daily. Everyone here knows it. It's been documented. All the right people are ticked off.

"Wow, I've always said that Trump supporters were idiots, but you take it to a new level, Misfortune & Pestilence. Your parents must be so very proud."

So personal attacks? Actually they are proud of me. I'm good looking (very good looking but I don't like to brag), smart, college-educated at a major University, and professionally licensed.

"The simple fact is, Trump is boorish clown who simply thinks that yelling means he'll get his way."

See, if you were being honest, you would know that the 'boorish clown' meme was from the early days of the Trump bashing. Since that didn't work they've tried everything their little pea brains can think of to stop the Trump Train. Please try to keep up.

"Cruz has argued before the Supreme Court successfully; that's more than enough experience to outwit a buffoon like Trump."

Ohh. Wow. Well, why didn't you say so? Cruz supporters must have low self-esteem or low IQ's since they seem to think he's some Einstein or something. When he figures out time travel, get back to me.

"buffoon"

Here we go again.

"If Cruz really goes after him in the debate, Trump will lose."

Haha. Nerd patrol? Here's a clue for you - The debates are not really debates, they are programs the networks use to sell soap.

"The only question is, who will cry more: Trump or his supporters."

Shaking my head. Ok. LOL

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 12, 2016 07:16 PM (qxh95)

451 So Ted's response is to lead with conspiracy theories?
Got it Ted. Weakness noted.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 12, 2016 07:27 PM (MbrzC)

452 39 Mitch really is a useless and lying sack of shit, isn't he?

Posted by: garrett at January 12, 2016 03:28 PM (bpyiA)
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Yup. Fuck that guy in particular.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 12, 2016 07:30 PM (MbrzC)

453 72
I'm a Cruz guy, and I'm sure his secret platform is to make curling the national sport.

If he is a Canuck sleeper it will be 'Hockey' ,dead giveaway is if he watches 'Hockey Night In Canada' on Saturday nights

Posted by: rufusrastasjohnsonbrown at January 12, 2016 07:31 PM (Dz+P9)

454 "Media/Uniparty/FauxConservative/RNC/DNC/Establishment/El Chappo/Saudi Princes/Blogospherepunditry complex"

Oh yeah, I forgot the private sector and foreign countries. Macy's, PGA, Great Britain-ban, etc. The list goes on and on.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at January 12, 2016 07:32 PM (qxh95)

455
AtC, McCain was on Morning Joe, and would asked if he would work w/Trump if elected, he said with a pained expression that he would "have to" and then spewed some nonsense about how he would only do this to save the country from Trump screwing it up (paraphrasing).

Un-fargin'-believable, the nerve of that guy!!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 12, 2016 03:33 PM (NOIQH)
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If the voters of AZ have any sense what so ever McCain will not be in the Senate next year.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 12, 2016 07:34 PM (MbrzC)

456 This interview that says it's a "full transcript"?
https://www.tedcruz.org/news/icymi-adam-carolla-i-love-me-some-ted-cruz/

Posted by: andycanuck at January 12, 2016 07:35 PM (DLIIY)

457 235 Can you even qualify to be elected to the Senate but not the Presidency? Enquiring minds and all.

Posted by: Cheri at January 12, 2016 04:03 PM (oiNtH)
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Yes, the requirements are different.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 12, 2016 07:48 PM (MbrzC)

458 244 This has been said by others much more articulately than me, but it seems like this is no longer a vanity run for Trump.
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It never was.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 12, 2016 07:50 PM (MbrzC)

459 I think that was Dershowitz, not Tribe.

Posted by: Iblis at January 12, 2016 04:22 PM (9221z)
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Correct.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 12, 2016 08:00 PM (MbrzC)

460 396 Trump is not going to offer Cruz the VP slot, what new voter does Cruz bring that Trump doesn't already have in the bag?

Cruz would not accept anyway. He would rather be a Senator and be able to separate himself from Trump if things don't work out. A VP would have to toe the line for everything Trump does.

Posted by: Tobasco at January 12, 2016 04:34 PM (kaR4c)
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Correct on both counts.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 12, 2016 08:03 PM (MbrzC)

461 Gad, the blog is overrun with come-latelies.

Posted by: Kerry Lawson at January 12, 2016 08:48 PM (8n+U+)

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