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Tuesday Morning News Dump

Posted by: BenK at 08:50 AM




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1 First?

Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 05, 2016 08:52 AM (iONHu)

2 Not first.

Posted by: IC at January 05, 2016 08:53 AM (+3RH+)

3 Sally Kohn Is Not That Bright

That isn't news.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at January 05, 2016 08:54 AM (PFy0L)

4 Rather than political ads not helping a candidate, for me it's the endorsements. Having a newspaper endorse you or some other politician does nothing for me.

Posted by: IC at January 05, 2016 08:55 AM (+3RH+)

5 The article on Obama executive overreach is excellent.

Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 05, 2016 08:55 AM (iONHu)

6 Early dump, this is refreshing

Morning Morons

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2016 08:55 AM (voOPb)

7 ah Good ole' Salvatore Kohn....

I should dust off Twatter and kick Xer in the ribs.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 08:57 AM (g8Hfr)

8 Regarding the EPA gold mine disaster



Sweet gig if you can get it. I pulled something like that at my job I would be fired and looking at some kind of charges.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2016 08:59 AM (voOPb)

9 >>Sally Kohn Is Not That Bright

Shut the front door.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 05, 2016 09:00 AM (/tuJf)

10 Top 'o the morning to y'all!

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at January 05, 2016 09:00 AM (sOhww)

11 Cause Of Gold King Mine Disaster May Never Be Known Thanks To The EPA


Does anyone with brains expect anything any different from the Obama crime syndicate. Impeachment is off the table so all of them will run wild.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 09:01 AM (t2KH5)

12 This Seems Like A Bad Idea


Its coming from Obama and other communists so there ain't no "seems" to it. It is more communist redistribution of wealth.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 09:02 AM (t2KH5)

13
Confessions Of A Columnist

Or

I'm an asshole hear me roar

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2016 09:03 AM (voOPb)

14
Good news everyone!:

Josh Romney 'strongly considering' run for Utah Governor in 2020

http://tinyurl.com/jjm8xp8

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 09:03 AM (kdS6q)

15 Rather than political ads not helping a candidate, for me it's the endorsements.

Having a newspaper endorse you or some other politician does nothing for me.



Does something for me. Gets the investigative juices flowing.
Why does a newspaper endorse someone? Hmmmm?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 09:03 AM (Yu4ah)

16 None of this morning's headlines induced me to click. Almost went to columnist confessions, but saw it was NY Times, so didn't. It's not you, BenK. It's me. Or maybe it's that guy over there. Yeah, it's him.

Gonna go feed the pesks and then check my newsfeeds. BBL

Posted by: mindful webworker - meh at January 05, 2016 09:03 AM (Ma5u/)

17 I should dust off Twatter and kick Xer in the ribs.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077

Treat her like the little ugly ankle biting dog that she is, rub her f*cking nose in it.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2016 09:04 AM (voOPb)

18 Why Our Allies Won't Help Fight ISIS


Because (a) they know we will except while Democrats are in office and (b) they know when Democrats are in office it will be a waste of lives and resources.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 09:05 AM (t2KH5)

19 I haven't seen MPPPP lately. I've been in EMT & he's usually there.

Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 09:06 AM (sj3Ax)

20 14: "Josh Romney 'strongly considering' run for Utah Governor in 2020"

You mean there isn't enough gayness there already?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 05, 2016 09:07 AM (4nmNX)

21 North Korea Conducts Successful Submarine Missile Test


Somehow I have to take this with a grain of salt. The tree bark eaters probably are not capable of this.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 09:07 AM (t2KH5)

22 Sally Kohn pretty sure that 9/11 attacks hit the USS Arizona.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 09:07 AM (659DL)

23 The news is a whole flaming caldron full of s**t. There isn't much good out there to hang your hat on, that's for sure. I long for the day I see a ray of light.

Transformation sequence just about complete.

Posted by: Lady in Black....sigh at January 05, 2016 09:08 AM (pVkEV)

24 I clicked on the sally Kohn link. Heh. Waco and Ruby Ridge were both bad and people seem to be putting them together, but most of them actually realize that they were separate actions.

Although twitchy seems awfully repetitive, generally 10 people tweeting the exact same thing. Why bother?

Posted by: Lea at January 05, 2016 09:08 AM (lIU4e)

25 http://tinyurl.com/gszqzj8

Here's Boston Herald about Trump appearance in MA last night.

Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 09:08 AM (sj3Ax)

26 Lena Dunham, who believes everything is rape, is hostign a fundraiser for Hillary. I wish someone would confront her with Hillarys work "blaming and shaming" the victims of Bill Clintons sexual attentions

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 09:08 AM (zOTsN)

27 Obama's Legacy Will Be Executive Overreach


No his actual history will be massive and flagrant violation of the Constitution and even existing law and judges orders.


His "legacy" will be what the MFM and liberal historians write. Which like FDR will be a pack of wild lies.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 09:10 AM (t2KH5)

28 The Feds are taking it easy this time since their are no children to offer to Moloch.

Posted by: scorecard at January 05, 2016 09:10 AM (CzhL0)

29 The EPA is obviously the cause of the Gold King disaster. How is not "ever to be known"?

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2016 09:10 AM (TxJGV)

30 Sally Kohn says there is a conspiracy behind the Jack Ruby-John Lennon case.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 09:10 AM (659DL)

31 Not all government stand offs are equal.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 05, 2016 09:11 AM (L8slQ)

32 16 None of this morning's headlines induced me to click. Almost went to columnist confessions, but saw it was NY Times, so didn't.

--

Same here.
I think I am at current events burn out point right now.
Just come here for the camaraderie.

Posted by: @votermom at January 05, 2016 09:11 AM (cbfNE)

33
Meanwhile, Jeb has been eating jimson weed again:

Former Gov. Jeb Bush (R-Fla.) said early Tuesday that his brother, George W. Bush, is probably the "most popular president" among Republicans. "My brother, if you did the polling and actually looked at it - he's probably the most popular president amongst Republicans in this country," Jeb Bush said on MSNBCs Morning Joe.

"The whole idea that he's a burden - any mistakes I've made are my own," the 2016 GOP presidential candidate continued. "I'm honored to be part of that family. All the psychobabble that goes along with it, I've gotten over it. You guys can meditate on your navels about that - I'm not."

The Hill

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 09:12 AM (kdS6q)

34 North Korea Conducts Successful Submarine Missile Test

Somehow I have to take this with a grain of salt. The tree bark eaters probably are not capable of this.


It was just the compressed air ejection system apparently. At dockside. I'm not losing sleep over these guys. Missing Russian radioactive stuff? Yes.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 09:12 AM (659DL)

35 Do political TV ads even matter anymore?


TV ads certainly didn't work for Jeb, but are they really less effective than they've been in the past?



This NYT guy is dumber than a post. NOTHING will work for Jebbie the Hutt. Nobody wants him but the MFM and the RNCe who seem to have dropped him for RINO Rubio now.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 09:13 AM (t2KH5)

36 Here's a good example of some of the nonsense floating around Lib Twitter about the Oregon situation:

http://tinyurl.com/hjyq2v5

I'm not going to fisk the whole thing, but here's 2 of them:

1. Ammon Bundy's loan from the Small Business Administration

The Small Business Administration (SBA) offers a loan guarantee program for businesses that don't qualify for assistance in the private credit market. As Mother Jones reported, Ammon Bundy, the ringleader of the Malheur takeover bemoaning federal overreach, got a $530,000 loan from the SBA in 2010 for his truck maintenance business in Arizona, costing taxpayers over $22,000. What the loan was used for or whether or not Bundy repaid it is not listed in public records.




He took out a loan. So? Notice also that it says "costing taxpayers over $22,000". The link in the article actually says "The government estimated that this subsidy could cost taxpayers $22,419." (bolding mine). How? I haven't the foggiest, but most of the time when places like Mother Jones say something like that it means "Govt made a loan at X% and if he'd gone to the bank it would have been X+1%, therefore the govt didn't get the +1% so that loan "cost" the govt whatever the +1% totals", even if the loan is paid in full, P+I. It's the same logic that calls a smaller than wanted increase in spending a "cut".





3. Ranchers get huge discounts on leases of public land

In Nevada, home of the Bundy family, 80 percent of the state's land is owned by the federal government. But ranchers get to lease that land for their own private businesses at a huge discount. According to an investigation by The Atlantic, the lease discount program cost taxpayers anywhere from $52 million a year to $200 million, when accounting for all of the administrative overhead involved in managing the program.




And if the ranchers were allowed to own the land themselves instead of being forced to lease from the BLM this wouldn't be an issue. Notice the logic: BLM takes over land, charges a fee for ranchers to use that land, and the administrative cost of all of this is classified as "costing taxpayers money". Go away. Disband the BLM. Let ranchers do as they will with the land they own. See how much money that saves? I'm a genius!



Posted by: Weirddave at January 05, 2016 09:13 AM (N8hFs)

37 Is it true? Did Baltimore really break the murder record? Well, good on the Progressives for setting a high bar.

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2016 09:13 AM (TxJGV)

38 Breaking: Sally Kohn praises Neil Armstrong for making it home alive from Apollo 13.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 09:13 AM (659DL)

39 Will Rubio's trash talk hurt Cruz?


In short no.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 09:14 AM (t2KH5)

40 None of this morning's headlines induced me to click. Almost went to columnist confessions, but saw it was NY Times, so didn't.

--

Same here.
I think I am at current events burn out point right now.
Just come here for the camaraderie.


It's not "burn out" for me. It's lack of trust. I don't trust them to report the truth.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 09:14 AM (Yu4ah)

41 Trump's Nomination Would Represent a Paradigm Shift



Good job of stating them obvious. Perhaps the base is waking up.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 09:15 AM (t2KH5)

42 Sally Kohn says Bill Gates did a great job in developing the iPhone.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 09:16 AM (659DL)

43 Breaking: Sally Kohn praises Neil Armstrong for making it home alive from Apollo 13.



Sally, ask him about the Mars flag!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 09:16 AM (Yu4ah)

44 Oslo police, "We have lost the city."

http://tinyurl.com/jh7d2cv

People believe this is many years away in this country. Hell, there are places here (and not only Dearborn) where it is every bit this bad.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Ahad ha'am) at January 05, 2016 09:16 AM (BZAd3)

45 Shouldnt Lena Dunham disavow Hillary for "blaming and shaming" the victims of Bills sexual attentions? Seems wildly inconsistent

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 09:17 AM (zOTsN)

46 "My brother, if you did the polling and actually looked at it - he's probably the most popular president amongst Republicans in this country," Jeb Bush said on MSNBCs Morning Joe.

What the hell does that even mean?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 09:17 AM (659DL)

47 Sally Kohn: Mexico is recovering because of Hugo Chavez's revolution.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 09:19 AM (659DL)

48
The WaPo's Chris Cillizza on the arena crowds Trump is drawing and what it all means.

http://tinyurl.com/jsw3jck

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 09:19 AM (kdS6q)

49 What the BLM is doing is disgusting. Totally disgusting.

But Bundys absolute refusal to recognize the federal government reminds me a little bit of the Posse Comitatus movement. That is not a good thing

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 09:19 AM (zOTsN)

50 This morning I wondered why we haven't heard recently from Marie Harf so I checked out her twitter stream. I am sad to say the Harfmeister is now a full on Ohio State football fan, and pretty much that's all she tweets these days. There ought to be a Buckeye fan selection process, so people like her can be blackballed. Very disappointing.

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2016 09:20 AM (TxJGV)

51 "My brother, if you did the polling and actually looked at it - he's probably the most popular president amongst Republicans in this country," Jeb Bush said on MSNBCs Morning Joe.

I'll give him this...he's possibly the most popular president named "Bush" among Republicans.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at January 05, 2016 09:20 AM (PFy0L)

52 49 Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 09:19 AM (zOTsN)

Maybe, of course the leftoids get their way by looking the other way when their idiot activists ignore law...

I dunno what the answer is anymore BUT I do know nothing the right has done the last 30 years has stopped the Potentates of the ABC Crime Families from acting lawlessly with no ability to overturn their diktats.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 09:22 AM (g8Hfr)

53 Fuck the GOP.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 05, 2016 09:22 AM (u5gzz)

54 As a service to the public, we would like to clarify what a typos is and isn't:

Example of typo:

Sally Kohn is bright (committed n't)


Example of ignorance of the facts:

Sally Kohn is a brilliant deep thinker. (false statement)






Posted by: Public Service Announcement at January 05, 2016 09:22 AM (1BQGO)

55 Good job of stating them obvious. Perhaps the base is waking up.Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 09:15 AM


The article was basically a hit piece on Trump. The writer likes Rubio and Cruz. How someone could simultaneously support that pair is baffling.

Posted by: free range jihadist at January 05, 2016 09:22 AM (fbovC)

56 I am sad to say the Harfmeister is now a full on Ohio State football fan, and pretty much that's all she tweets these days.



Roll Tide

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 09:23 AM (659DL)

57 The fact that Sally Kohn is gainfully employed is amazing all by itself.

Posted by: Fritz at January 05, 2016 09:23 AM (UzPAd)

58 Good morning, people that live in my computer. It's 17 degrees outside, the sun is shining, and I have a dentist appointment. I guess one out of three isn't bad. Could be worse.

Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at January 05, 2016 09:24 AM (dFi94)

59 48 The WaPo's Chris Cillizza on the arena crowds Trump is drawing and what it all means.
--------------------------------------------------------

That's quite a picture.

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2016 09:25 AM (TxJGV)

60 Because (a) they know we will except while Democrats
are in office and (b) they know when Democrats are in office it will be
a waste of lives and resources. Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 09:05 AM


I don't think "Allies" means what people think it means.

Our "Allies" get lots of Free Shit from us. So do our "Enemies."

An "Ally" claims to agree with us, while expecting us to carry the load for them. An "Enemy" disagrees with every one of us except the Choom Gang. Both are happy to take anything we offer.

Posted by: Mr Scribbler at January 05, 2016 09:26 AM (mIvL9)

61 You scared of a few widows, orphans and thugs yelling "fucky, fucky" while groping you? Cowards.

Posted by: Barack Obama at January 05, 2016 09:26 AM (7EHW6)

62 TV ads certainly didn't work for Jeb, but are they really less effective than they've been in the past?

Ads aren't magic. You still need a product that people want to buy.

Oslo police, "We have lost the city."

Scary. That german riot was scary too. I would say I don't see this happening here without shooting, but in some towns it could. It just depends on where you are, I guess?

Posted by: Lea at January 05, 2016 09:26 AM (lIU4e)

63 What the BLM is doing is disgusting. Totally disgusting.

But Bundys absolute refusal to recognize the federal government reminds me a little bit of the Posse Comitatus movement. That is not a good thing


Is it ok if I despise everyone involved saved the poor schlubs who got rolled up for setting the controlled fire?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 09:26 AM (659DL)

64 So Klavan doesnt like Trump. Is that the correct takeaway?

Posted by: blaster at January 05, 2016 09:26 AM (2Ocf1)

65 20 14: "Josh Romney 'strongly considering' run for Utah Governor in 2020"

You mean there isn't enough gayness there already?
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 0

Huntsman, Bush, Romney they reproduce like rabbits. I'm glad Bubba & Cankles only kicked out one breeder. By the time Clinton grand kids can run for office I'll be sitting at the Pearly Gates

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2016 09:27 AM (voOPb)

66 >>>>Oslo police, "We have lost the city."



http://tinyurl.com/jh7d2cv



People believe this is many years away in this country. Hell, there
are places here (and not only Dearborn) where it is every bit this bad.
.
.
.It is their own fault, every bit of it. And we are heading down that slippery slope ourselves.

Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 05, 2016 09:27 AM (iONHu)

67 Gordon Kahl founded the Posse Comitatus movement. He was a farmer in ND who couldnt pay his land taxes. Eventually he refused to recognize the authority of the federal government all together, and would only recognize the authority of the county sheriff. He shot and killed two deputies who were trying to serve him with legal papers. He died in a shoot out with authorities after skirmishes in ND and AR.

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 09:27 AM (zOTsN)

68 58 Good morning, people that live in my computer. It's 17 degrees outside, the sun is shining, and I have a dentist appointment. I guess one out of three isn't bad. Could be worse.
Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at Janua

Ask for dope. Then it will be 3 for 3 grammie.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2016 09:27 AM (voOPb)

69 57 Posted by: Fritz at January 05, 2016 09:23 AM (UzPAd)


Xe was the "it" girl and the leftoids take care of their own with their IT billionaire class' money....

There are a dozen posters here at least as qualified as Salvatore, Matty Glesias, and Ezra "Derp" Klein in getting paid for their opinions BUT "unfortunately" they post from the wrong point of perspective for the media class.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 09:27 AM (g8Hfr)

70

Huffpo: Here's What Happens When Lesbians Touch A Penis For The First Time

"I feel like I've gone my whole life trying to avoid this moment."

http://tinyurl.com/znhwv84

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 09:28 AM (kdS6q)

71 Josh Romney 'strongly considering' run for Utah Governor in 2020

Because what this country needs is more of the same.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 09:28 AM (659DL)

72

Dammit. Forgot the "Ah -- sweet mystery of life at last I've found you!"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 09:29 AM (kdS6q)

73 Ask for dope. Then it will be 3 for 3 grammie.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2016 09:27 AM (voOPb)
================================================

Ooooo, good idea. I was going to go to Penney's afterwards to buy a birthday gift, but it's right next door so I suppose I could stagger over there instead of drive.

Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at January 05, 2016 09:30 AM (dFi94)

74 64
So Klavan doesnt like Trump. Is that the correct takeaway?

Posted by: blaster at January 05, 2016 09:26 AM (2Ocf1)


Klavan strikes me as being a political hipster, signaling his rarified tastes and intellectual superiority by denouncing what's popular.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 05, 2016 09:30 AM (HalrA)

75 Is it ok if I despise everyone involved saved the poor schlubs who got rolled up for setting the controlled fire?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 09:26

Funny to see on Twitter last night how these white red necks need to be shot, imprisoned etc. But the BLM crowd in Ferguson was justified in burning the hood. I was kind of expecting 2 wrongs don't make a right theme. Oh boy was I mistaken.

When the shit hits the fan, it will not be pretty.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2016 09:30 AM (voOPb)

76 67 Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 09:27 AM (zOTsN)

Yup, and I argued vociferously against PC in my misguided youth....

the left is never "held accountable" for the misdeeds of their Occutards or Black Lies Matter Riot Inc shock troops....


the right needs to start running political interference for their lunatic fringe if the media will never be held to account for their passes for the left.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 09:30 AM (g8Hfr)

77 I'm really not a Trump fan, but if he can destroy the GOP I'll vote for him.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 05, 2016 09:31 AM (u5gzz)

78 Hi Sven. I hope you had a nice holiday.

Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at January 05, 2016 09:31 AM (dFi94)

79 But Merkel's got to be "empowering" for me. She has a vagina.

Feminists are supposed to fix the game in my favor, like on American college campuses!

Posted by: Bewildered German Woman who voted Merkel at January 05, 2016 09:32 AM (lHyWr)

80
The ISIS article is a pretty concise explanation of why our Allies won't be destroying ISIS any time soon, or any time at all. Distilled: "Fuck it. If we let it stew long enough, the US will jump in and take care of it."

And then he pisses it all away when he asserts that US agencies have done "sterling" work in training for and responding to terror incidents, and in improving domestic security.

Riiiiiiight. I feel SO secure with the Feebs protecting me. Fuckin' douchebag, there's a REASON that I'm buying ammo.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 05, 2016 09:32 AM (j4wsR)

81 75 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 05, 2016 09:30 AM (voOPb)

Precisely, if you want the key to immortality just refuse to die until the left ever accounts for its "charming" stance of "it is different when we do it!"

I'm 105 years old.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 09:32 AM (g8Hfr)

82 77
I'm really not a Trump fan, but if he can destroy the GOP I'll vote for him.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 05, 2016 09:31 AM (u5gzz)


Somebody has to. Most of the party is Democrats with a R after their name these days.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 05, 2016 09:32 AM (HalrA)

83 Pit Bull dachshund mix is freaky. My photoshop spidey senses immediately tingled.

Posted by: bourbonchicken at January 05, 2016 09:33 AM (WFQ1Q)

84 78 Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at January 05, 2016 09:31 AM (dFi94)

I did, hope yours went well.

We had a nice break with lad behaving well, wife took some leave, we had the windshield wiper motor die in Idaho Falls on an outing and got to eat beef jerky and clear off road silt on the way back...

the holidays are as much about the memories and fellowship as the loot.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 09:33 AM (g8Hfr)

85
So Klavan doesnt like Trump.
Posted by: blaster



Well, if the author of "Werewolf Cop" is agin' em, that's good enough for me.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 09:34 AM (kdS6q)

86 isnt there a conservative ACLU who could take up the Hammonds cause?

labeling them as domestic terrorists is insane, and the harsh prison sentences are truly outrageous

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 09:35 AM (zOTsN)

87 Laurie David's Cervix,
I just saw link in EMT with Crux being in statistical tie with Trump.
Thank you.

Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 09:35 AM (sj3Ax)

88 Sven - eating beef jerky on the side of the road in Idaho Falls sounds like it should be a Family Tradition.

Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at January 05, 2016 09:35 AM (dFi94)

89 couldnt Judicial Watch or Mark Levin's firm represent the Hammonds?

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 09:37 AM (zOTsN)

90 That "baby tries glasses for first time" vid in the sidebar is cute. But, c'mon. Are we to take it that the doctor was too busy to test them? "Hey, folks, I'm just swamped. But here are some glasses. There's a Flipdaddy's down the street. Take your daughter there and try them out. If she can read the menu fine, we're all good."

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 05, 2016 09:37 AM (nFdGS)

91 Word is out that Jarrett and Lynch want the government to lower the transaction requirement to become a FFL down to two sales.

Couple that with the ATF restricting FFL issuances over the last 20 years and you have instant lawsuits.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 05, 2016 09:37 AM (PCof0)

92 sally kohn looks to have been the victim of fetal alcohol syndrome

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 05, 2016 09:37 AM (0O7c5)

93 That Klavan piece gives me fits. Is he right about Trump's basic nature? Maybe--he seems to have a number of the details right; even I admit what he is, though I differ on motives. But he continues the trend to completely ignore why Trump is where he is in this campaign. Even Frum understands that, David freaking Frum gets that, how much more obvious does it need to be?

Plus he considers Rubio acceptable. That tells me all I need.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 05, 2016 09:37 AM (9krrF)

94 88 Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at January 05, 2016 09:35 AM (dFi94)

It may well be, the Hilton Garden Inn in Idaho Falls is a wonderful hotel with a nice scenic view of the Snake River...

Idaho was essentially a Mormon colony of Utah in the old days and say what one will the Mormons understand how to run a county it seems.

Was mightily impressed with the area and its people.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 09:38 AM (g8Hfr)

95 Plus he considers Rubio acceptable. That tells me all I need.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 05, 2016 09:37 AM (9krrF)


Exactly. A vote for Rubio is a vote to be Aztlan as soon as La Raza can truck in enough people to turn this country solid blue forever.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 05, 2016 09:38 AM (HalrA)

96 Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Hell no!It was a TYPO.

Posted by: Sally Kohn at January 05, 2016 09:38 AM (XtAzU)

97 Boy the bitch slapping of Kohn is epic, LOL!




Lesbos, history and geography not part of core curriculum in womyn's studies.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 05, 2016 09:39 AM (jJRIy)

98 'This seems like a bad idea'

Oh yeah. The idea is to wash the 'not dischargable through bankruptcy' part of student loans away by incorporating that debt into a home mortgage. So buy a home, then walk away.

We've seen this plot before. And, we'll probably see it again.


Posted by: free range jihadist at January 05, 2016 09:40 AM (fbovC)

99 about the executive order, making a seller a dealer for anything more than two transactions


how on earth would they ever ever enforce that?

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 09:40 AM (zOTsN)

100 Sven @ 84 Idaho?
Idaho? If I win the lottery, ETEX will have to mix me for the six months each year I spend in Idaho. On my ranch. Sven, haven't been up with you lately. Is the wife unit out of the army now? And how do you like Idaho? And don't compare it to South Carolina, because I know Ft. Jackson spoiled SC for you.

Posted by: Eromero at January 05, 2016 09:40 AM (b+df9)

101 92
sally kohn looks to have been the victim of fetal alcohol syndrome


Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 05, 2016 09:37 AM (0O7c5)

Her VJ was acting up and make her do the dumb.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 05, 2016 09:40 AM (jJRIy)

102 The decimation of the indigenous prairie crab is what led to the Liz Warren's rise to power during the Pine Ridge shootout.

Posted by: Sally Kohn at January 05, 2016 09:41 AM (UzPAd)

103 When the shit hits the fan, it will not be pretty.

If the next iteration of America has a 1st Amendment, it will read much differently.

Also, I expect if TSHTF, the media will be targeted extensively, being seen (quite rightly) as agents of the Leftstablishment.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 05, 2016 09:41 AM (9krrF)

104 @13

MH, I got a comment published that surprised me. I said basically what do you expect when you've have Obama's dick in your ass for seven years.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 05, 2016 09:42 AM (jJRIy)

105 "I feel like I've gone my whole life trying to avoid this moment." Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 09:28 AM

Strange thing for them to say, considering most have surely spent considerable time touching realistic plastic substitutes.

Probably much larger ones....

Posted by: Mr Scribbler at January 05, 2016 09:42 AM (mIvL9)

106 The decimation of the indigenous prairie crab is what led to the Liz Warren's rise to power during the Pine Ridge shootout.

Posted by: Sally Kohn


Someone solicit donations from her to save the Pacific Northwest tree octopus, I want to see how much she parts with on that...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 05, 2016 09:43 AM (9krrF)

107 Most of our western allies are thoroughly infiltrated by muslims plus it is a crime to say anything that hurts their feelings. And obama is making us just like them.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 05, 2016 09:43 AM (iQIUe)

108 bigger question

why are you reading Huff Po, let alone Huff Po Gay Voices

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 09:44 AM (zOTsN)

109 I touched a penis and I liked it.

Posted by: Katy Perry at January 05, 2016 09:44 AM (u5gzz)

110 >>A definitive explanation for what caused the Gold King Mine disaster may never be known if the Environmental Protection Agency is not investigated...

It wasn't a disaster - it was a means to and end: getting the area declared a superfund site, something the locals had fought for years.

Also, if they don't investigate then this will hinder any lawsuits against them, such as Indian reservation downstream who want to make the EPA pay for this.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 09:45 AM (NOIQH)

111 100 Posted by: Eromero at January 05, 2016 09:40 AM (b+df9)

Yes Pac10077 is still in the Green Machine, we are currently living in scenic Southwest Montana...

I like South Carolina plenty, I just felt Columbia "needed a bath" (my last words as we drove off in the third week of August)....

Shortly after we left?


http://tinyurl.com/zpvmxzj



Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 09:46 AM (g8Hfr)

112 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 05, 2016 09:46 AM (kff5f)

113 about the executive order, making a seller a dealer for anything more than two transactions

how on earth would they ever ever enforce that?
Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 09:40 AM (zOTsN)


I wonder how they would even know about private sellers, unless something happened? Certainly they wouldn't know when the transactions happened (before or after 'law' changed), unless the original gun purchase happened after and was tracked.

I guess this would be something they would try to hammer someone with later?

Posted by: Lea at January 05, 2016 09:46 AM (lIU4e)

114 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 05, 2016 09:46 AM (kff5f)

115 109 Yeah,Russel Brand's...ewwwww

Posted by: steevy at January 05, 2016 09:46 AM (8HTq1)

116 None of this morning's headlines induced me to click. Almost went to columnist confessions, but saw it was NY Times, so didn't.

-----

Ha - my thoughts exactly.

Posted by: SH at January 05, 2016 09:47 AM (gmeXX)

117
about the executive order, making a seller a dealer for anything more than two transactions


how on earth would they ever ever enforce that?

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 09:40 AM (zOTsN)








They don't. They're counting on the basic law-abiding nature of 90% of gun owners to fall into line. Which is ironic since the left has caterwauled for decades that guns are only owned by latent murderers and criminals with small penises.

Either that, or it's all just a dog and pony show to placate their base while he runs out the clock playing golf.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 05, 2016 09:47 AM (j4wsR)

118 Sally Kohn's Towering Intellect is not unlike:

Caitlyn Jenner's stunning bravery.

Barack Obama's Constitutional Scholarship.

Michael Sam's incredible talent.

Hillary Clinton's impeccable integrity.

Jeb Bush's electability.

Posted by: V the K at January 05, 2016 09:48 AM (O7MnT)

119 Seeing those sidebar links about people showing up for Trump in sub-freezing temperatures...

I think some people need to start considering very seriously what will happen if he wins in those early states. A lot of fainting nellies are going to need to find their couches, I think.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 05, 2016 09:48 AM (kff5f)

120 Guns bad

Posted by: Sally Koko at January 05, 2016 09:49 AM (/tuJf)

121 about the executive order, making a seller a dealer for anything more than two transactions


how on earth would they ever ever enforce that?



I'd sell two in a heartbeat to avoid the FFL rules, just to become a dealer and to be able to buy at wholesale. And by "avoid FFL rules", I mean all of the ones that ran a lot of home FFL's out of business.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 09:49 AM (Yu4ah)

122 Stephen Colbert's mainstream appeal.

Posted by: V the K at January 05, 2016 09:49 AM (O7MnT)

123

I just think it would be impossible to enforce the executive order making casual sellers dealers after two transactions


the only thing it could be used for would be to punish people after the fact, like when the gun is used in crime by someone else

but how can you prosecute someone for violating an executive order that is not written into the law?

I dont think you can


is this Gun Control Theater?

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 09:49 AM (zOTsN)

124 This Kohn fellow certainly has a face for radio.

Posted by: Valjar at January 05, 2016 09:50 AM (evdj2)

125 is this executive order giving the appearance of doing something without actually doing anything?

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 09:50 AM (zOTsN)

126 Lena Dunham, who believes everything is rape, is hostign a fundraiser for Hillary. I wish someone would confront her with Hillarys work "blaming and shaming" the victims of Bill Clintons sexual attentions
Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 09:08 AM (zOTsN)

It's been done on Twitter, including digs at her sexual abuse of her sister. Her response has been just as obtuse and stupid as you might imagine, basically, "I've got my fingers in my ears and am saying La La La as loud as I can while I ignore the truth." Expecting anything rational from Lena Dumbhamhocks is expecting way too much.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 05, 2016 09:50 AM (kXoT0)

127 Trump 30 second spot:
It's dreary the way most political ads are. That quality that makes LIVs glad they are low information.

"Destroy ISIS and take their oil."
"Build a wall and have Mexico pay for it."

Why are you guys so gloomy when you have this to look forward to?

Posted by: bourbonchicken at January 05, 2016 09:50 AM (WFQ1Q)

128 but how can you prosecute someone for violating an executive order that is not written into the law?

Sure you can. Just because you'll lose doesn't mean anything. Show trials are a thing for a reason. And if you get to bankrupt a few gun owners in the process, so much the better.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 05, 2016 09:51 AM (kff5f)

129 @113

Why would I spend the money and have that background check done on myself to get a FFL to sell a weapon so I can then do a check on the buyer?



Clearly Obama is an idiot or maybe not. The transactional costs of this would make private sales even more costly, which mean those sales will become even more hidden.



So now any sale will become a "black market" sale, which is what ATF wants.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 05, 2016 09:51 AM (jJRIy)

130
Sally Kohn's Towering Intellect is not unlike:

Caitlyn Jenner's stunning bravery.

Barack Obama's Constitutional Scholarship.

Michael Sam's incredible talent.

Hillary Clinton's impeccable integrity.

Jeb Bush's electability.

Posted by: V the K at January 05, 2016 09:48 AM (O7MnT)







Bill Clinton's Marital Fidelity

Lena Dunham's Sex Appeal

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 05, 2016 09:51 AM (j4wsR)

131 >>>>about the executive order, making a seller a dealer for anything more than two transactions





how on earth would they ever ever enforce that?



Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 09:40 AM (zOTsN)

















They don't. They're counting on the basic law-abiding nature of 90%
of gun owners to fall into line. Which is ironic since the left has
caterwauled for decades that guns are only owned by latent murderers and
criminals with small penises.



Either that, or it's all just a dog and pony show to placate their base while he runs out the clock playing golf.
.
.
.
.It is all just a big show for the LIV's to show that Obama is doing something about gun control like he said he would.

And about that 90% law abiding gun owner compliance thing. CT and NY has brought that down to about 20% with their recent new laws.

Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 05, 2016 09:51 AM (iONHu)

132 121,

Pretty sure the plan is for FFL demand to increase while th ATF fuckers decrease approved applications to create a bottleneck.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 05, 2016 09:52 AM (PCof0)

133 is this executive order giving the appearance of doing something without actually doing anything?

-------

Mostly yes. But it is certainly a signal and should be pushed back on.

Posted by: SH at January 05, 2016 09:53 AM (gmeXX)

134 the only thing it could be used for would be to punish people after the fact, like when the gun is used in crime by someone else

but how can you prosecute someone for violating an executive order that is not written into the law?

I dont think you can



I think this is TVP for his base.
TVP = textured vegetable protein, aka fake meat.

is this Gun Control Theater?
Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 09:49 AM (zOTsN)

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 09:53 AM (Yu4ah)

135 I think its Gun Control Theater. No one will report more than two sales. The fed doesnt have anyway to verify it. Its all bull shit

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 09:54 AM (zOTsN)

136 132
121,



Pretty sure the plan is for FFL demand to increase while th ATF fuckers decrease approved applications to create a bottleneck.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 05, 2016 09:52 AM (PCof0)

BINGO!

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 05, 2016 09:54 AM (jJRIy)

137
Meanwhile, over at National Review, Jim Geraghty continues to suck:

The Rise of the Doomsday Conservatives

The best part of this narrative is that if Trump fails to win the nomination or the presidency, the outsiders have a ready-made explanation:..It just couldn't be that Trump and his supporters tainted legitimate concerns about border security and assimilation of immigrants with a whiff of lunatic white-nationalism.

http://tinyurl.com/hn86wfx

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 09:54 AM (kdS6q)

138
And about that 90% law abiding gun owner compliance thing. CT and NY has brought that down to about 20% with their recent new laws.

Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 05, 2016 09:51 AM (iONHu)








Yeah, I agree. Should have been more clear. JugEars and his minions THINK it'll be 90% based on long past, and outdated experience. But recent events like in CT, NY and the normal capacity magazine ban in CO certainly have changed things.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 05, 2016 09:54 AM (j4wsR)

139 Michelle Obama's fashion sense.

Posted by: V the K at January 05, 2016 09:55 AM (O7MnT)

140

NRA should fight it tooth and nail, and tell people to ignore the executive order

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 09:55 AM (zOTsN)

141 Klavan strikes me as being a political hipster, signaling his rarified tastes and intellectual superiority by denouncing what's popular.

===

Never thought about it, but this seems right.

Posted by: Bigby's Butterfingers at January 05, 2016 09:55 AM (3ZtZW)

142 Funny, Trump saying a couple weeks ago that elements of gun violence is a 'mental health issue' was deemed stupid, because Trump. But now 0bama seems to want to have the social security administration notifying and denying old folks with mental health issues from owning a gun.

I suspect it's the camel sticking its nose under the tent. The demographic group most likely to waltz into a school fully armed and ready to kill isn't Grams and Gramps on Grandparents Day.

See drudge link to breitbart for details.

Posted by: free range jihadist at January 05, 2016 09:56 AM (fbovC)

143 Had trouble sleeping last night as I have had most nights since my fiance died. In the quiet wee hours, I sit there and wonder to myself how we got to the point where Hillary Clinton, one of the most evil, felonious, and talentless women who's ever held enough power to abuse and misuse it, is running for POTUS with the express collusion and complicity of almost the entire national media.

It's beyond bizarre to see her fail ever upward with less charm than a poisoned rampaging rhinocerous and less brainpower than a trepanned chimpanzee.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 05, 2016 09:56 AM (kXoT0)

144 In 2000, the National Park Service and BIA started a controlled burn in the Cerro Grande area north of Santa Fe, NM. Unfortunately, they had not checked the weather forecast and the fire quickly got out of control and burned 48,000 acres and homes and lab facilities at Los Alamos National Labs. The Hammonds illegally burned 139 acres.

Clearly, the professionals should set the fires. They do a much better job.

Posted by: huerfano at January 05, 2016 09:56 AM (NSb9d)

145 ((sherry))

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 05, 2016 09:57 AM (0O7c5)

146 I think its Gun Control Theater. No one will report more than two sales. The fed doesnt have anyway to verify it. Its all bull shit

I believe it #2 on the list

2. Do only what the government directly compels you to do. Volunteer nothing.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 05, 2016 09:58 AM (evdj2)

147 I think its Gun Control Theater. No one will report more than two sales. The fed doesnt have anyway to verify it. Its all bull shit

I think it creates a window for selective prosecution.

A rancher who sells a gun to another rancher that is subsequently used to shoot an illegal alien trespasser... he'll be prosecuted.

L'il Poppa Saggy Pants who supplies the West Side Crips need not worry.

Posted by: V the K at January 05, 2016 09:58 AM (O7MnT)

148
I saw a play at the Gun Control Theater once. It SUCKED. Self-righteous screeching and pseudo-Soviet dance numbers with waving red flags and cardboard cut-out Kalashnikov AR15s.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 05, 2016 09:58 AM (j4wsR)

149 I stopped reading the Klavan piece when I got to this:

"Not to mention the ceaseless exposure to nude and semi-nude bodies and sexual talk that keeps us all keyed up, on edge."

Um...what the actual fk is this moron babbling about? Who's this "us" he speaks of? Whatever this is supposed to mean, it tells us more about him than it does his purported subject.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 05, 2016 09:58 AM (r9tFS)

150 Huffpo: Here's What Happens When Lesbians Touch A Penis For The First Time

"I feel like I've gone my whole life trying to avoid this moment."


They should thank their lucky stars they didn't have to go through the same hell I've been through.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at January 05, 2016 09:58 AM (lHyWr)

151 #145 It's just part of the grieving process, but, thanks for the hugs.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 05, 2016 09:58 AM (kXoT0)

152 137 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 09:54 AM (kdS6q)

People like Jim are slowly making me back Trump....


Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 09:59 AM (g8Hfr)

153 Sally Kohn Is Not That Bright

Well.....duh.

She's a troll.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 05, 2016 09:59 AM (yeZ4s)

154 Re: Oslo - Just with infrequent visits to the Gates of Vienna blog over the years you could see this building for years, with anyone attempting to speak up about it called a racist. It first happened slowly, and then with the mass migrations, all at once. Very sad.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 09:59 AM (NOIQH)

155 L'il Poppa Saggy Pants who supplies the West Side Crips need not worry.

Posted by: V the K at January 05, 2016 09:58 AM (O7MnT)

Nor any other big city supplier of guns...

Posted by: Colin at January 05, 2016 10:00 AM (T3Tpd)

156 Individuals are not required to report sales.

But the point of this is not to prosecute someone who sells a couple of guns.

It is to provide a basis for ATF agents to go to gunshows and check papers and hassle people.

Posted by: blaster at January 05, 2016 10:01 AM (2Ocf1)

157 Klavan is a true twit if he thinks Rubio is all that. Rubio has been shown to be a weathervane.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 05, 2016 10:01 AM (kXoT0)

158 >>I think it creates a window for selective prosecution.


Yep, hence vague wording.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 10:01 AM (NOIQH)

159 154 Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 09:59 AM (NOIQH)

They lost Malmo back in 2001 or so....

it *is* stunning they are admitting(unlike the UK) that they have lost their capital...

but hey EUtopians are an especially self-delusory people.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 10:01 AM (g8Hfr)

160 Hey Vic (or anyone else) was the use of EEOC in the last thread a reference to Equal Employment Opportunity Commission? Or something else? It seemed to be used in a more homegrown fashion to refer to corruption generally.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 05, 2016 10:02 AM (xuouz)

161
selective prosecution? its an executive order, and not part of the law

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 10:02 AM (zOTsN)

162 Someone mentioned Russell Brand upthread...


Have you ever noticed how small that guy's head is?

It's really small.

Like a billiard ball sitting on top of a mannikin.


No wonder he grows the heavy beard and big poofy hair-

to disguise the itty-bitsiness of his peanut head.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 05, 2016 10:02 AM (KUa85)

163 Rep. Elizabeth Esty (D.umb) is on MSDNC lying her @$$ off about background checks for guns. I'm sure the idiots who view the channel for actual news eat that crap up.

Posted by: hadoop at January 05, 2016 10:03 AM (2X7pN)

164 Actually, Kohn is a case in point: Lefty pundits don't need command of the facts to succeed. They don't even need enough 'intellectual curiosity' to do anything but lump their enemies into sloppy piles to direct the Two-Minutes Hate at.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 05, 2016 10:04 AM (yeZ4s)

165 Sven @ 111- Bath
Yeah, but didn't get all the rats, did it? I was born and raised in Lexington County, kin still there. Some flooded, some not. So how is tax situation in Montana? Montana and Idaho are on my 'must see' list and could be possible sites for a retro movement from ETEX.

Posted by: Eromero at January 05, 2016 10:05 AM (b+df9)

166 #150 Who dreams this stuff up? If you don't want to touch a man's penis because you are a Lesbian, why would you do it for some journalist to write about it? It just boggles the mind. I can't imagine doing the converse myself.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 05, 2016 10:05 AM (kXoT0)

167 Executive orders have the full force of law when they take authority from a legislative power which grants its power directly to the Executive by the Constitution, or are made pursuant to Acts of Congress that explicitly delegate to the President some degree of discretionary power


this is a power Congress has reserved and not delegated to the president. This executive order would there fore have to derive its power from the legislation and it cannot

this executive order, in addition to being unenforceable, does not have the force of law

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 10:05 AM (zOTsN)

168 I guess by Gaylord's logic, if I want to give my kid a car, I should become a regulated auto dealer?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 05, 2016 10:06 AM (yeZ4s)

169 Have you ever noticed how small that guy's head is?
It's really small. Posted by: naturalfake at January 05, 2016 10:02 AM (KUa85)

IMHO He grows the beard to hide his bad complexion. He has pimples that are larger than his brain.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 05, 2016 10:06 AM (kXoT0)

170 Yeah, that's going to go over well... ATF morons going full Gestapo demanding to know "Vere are your PAPERS?!?"

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 05, 2016 10:07 AM (PCof0)

171 Congress should sue POTUS over this

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 10:07 AM (zOTsN)

172 165 Posted by: Eromero at January 05, 2016 10:05 AM (b+df9)

Rats are hardy vermin...

Taxes in rural ID and MT are reasonable, BUT it is vital to remember that both are under an invasion by Californians fleeing from their Blue Heaven and trying to tun both "true blue."

Butte is like San Francisco and Denver had a baby....

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 10:07 AM (g8Hfr)

173 By Obama's logic, an EO could extend the tax rates on the rich to everyone else.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 05, 2016 10:07 AM (yeZ4s)

174 I guess by Gaylord's logic, if I want to give my kid a car, I should become a regulated auto dealer?
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel



And get TRUE wholesale pricing!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 10:08 AM (Yu4ah)

175 this executive order, in addition to being unenforceable, does not have the force of law

----

I agree with you that this is basically gun control theater. But that doesn't mean it should be ignored, that it isn't outrageous, that we shouldn't push back.

But in general, I think Obama wants to look like he is really doing something rather than really doing something.

It must grate him to know that even after multiple mass shootings he cannot move the public on gun control. And in fact seems to be moving the public in the opposite direction.

Posted by: SH at January 05, 2016 10:08 AM (gmeXX)

176 >>>>Yeah, I agree. Should have been more clear. JugEars and his minions
THINK it'll be 90% based on long past, and outdated experience. But
recent events like in CT, NY and the normal capacity magazine ban in CO
certainly have changed things.
.
.
.As they used to love saying in the Navy, the paradigm has shifted. CT and NY both demonstrated what happens when Civil Disobedience is practiced in an extremely large and non violent way.

Approximately 50,000 known Felons in the State of Connecticut alone and the State refuses to prosecute a single one even though they know exactly who they are and their street address.

Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 05, 2016 10:08 AM (iONHu)

177 It is to provide a basis for ATF agents to go to gunshows and check papers and hassle people.

Posted by: blaster

this

this must be what they are going for

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 10:08 AM (zOTsN)

178 Klavan is a true twit if he thinks Rubio is all that. Rubio has been shown to be a weathervane.

===

Klavan just goes with whatever the GOPe says. He's their creature.

Posted by: Bigby's Butterfingers at January 05, 2016 10:10 AM (3ZtZW)

179 It is to provide a basis for ATF agents to go to gunshows and check papers and hassle people.

Posted by: blaster

this

this must be what they are going for

----------

Sounds like a good reason to start cutting some budgets. If only Congress had such power.

Posted by: SH at January 05, 2016 10:10 AM (gmeXX)

180 I am not saying ignore it. I am saying Congress should sue POTUS over the usurption of their powers

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 10:10 AM (zOTsN)

181 They need our voluntary compliance. Don't give it.

Posted by: Grump928(c) withholds at January 05, 2016 10:11 AM (evdj2)

182 >>As they used to love saying in the Navy, the paradigm has shifted. CT and NY both demonstrated what happens when Civil Disobedience is practiced in an extremely large and non violent way.

Marijuana continues to be illegal at the federal level. 20 states have medical marijuana programs and nobody gives a wet fart.

Posted by: Sally Koko at January 05, 2016 10:11 AM (/tuJf)

183 It is to provide a basis for ATF agents to go to gunshows and check papers and hassle people.

Posted by: blaster



They already can. They can hassle legit dealers all day long.
And I am already exempt from a background check when I buy a new gun.

Yes, I still have to fill out a 4473, but no background check.

For now.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 10:11 AM (Yu4ah)

184 Ack

Posted by: Jackstraw at January 05, 2016 10:12 AM (/tuJf)

185 By Obama's logic, an EO could extend the tax rates on the rich to everyone else.


Nice. I'm going to use that, doubtless without attribution alas.

Posted by: Grump928(c) withholds at January 05, 2016 10:12 AM (evdj2)

186 I am not saying ignore it. I am saying Congress should sue POTUS over the usurption of their powers

----------

I didn't mean to imply that you thought it should be ignored.

I'm not big on these types of lawsuits. But hey, if they work, maybe I could get behind them. I'd rather Congress just exercise its real power, and stop appropriating (or appropriate less) funds to the ATF, etc.

Posted by: SH at January 05, 2016 10:12 AM (gmeXX)

187 Approximately 50,000 known Felons in the State of Connecticut alone and the State refuses to prosecute a single one even though they know exactly who they are and their street address.

The state ... thanks to Blue State economics ... is too broke to prosecute and imprison all of them.

Posted by: V the K at January 05, 2016 10:13 AM (O7MnT)

188 I'm not opposed to government, Mandrake. But I do deny them my essence.

Posted by: Grump928(c) withholds at January 05, 2016 10:14 AM (evdj2)

189 I like the guys at my gun shop. When I but a house, they will definitely be invited to the housewarming.

Posted by: V the K at January 05, 2016 10:14 AM (O7MnT)

190 Am I banned?

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 05, 2016 10:15 AM (xuouz)

191 I'm not opposed to government, Mandrake. But I do deny them my essence.

Sally Kohn thinks David Niven was great as Dr. Strangelove.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 10:16 AM (659DL)

192 Dudes we are fucked beyond the wildest imaginings of the most tinfoil covered fundamental separatist in Ruby Ridge, Waco, Texas, USA.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 05, 2016 10:16 AM (xuouz)

193 Am I banned?
Posted by: Ghost of kari




Doesn't appear so.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 10:17 AM (Yu4ah)

194 The music plays louder.

Posted by: Grump928(c) withholds at January 05, 2016 10:17 AM (evdj2)

195 so will McConnel and Ryan do something about this? Is this "the hill"? or will they do nothing in order to use it in the election? at some point they should realize you have to have some victories to encourage people to vote for you

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 10:17 AM (zOTsN)

196
Huffpo: Here's What Happens When Lesbians Touch A Penis For The First Time


HuffPo with the hard news.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 05, 2016 10:18 AM (yeZ4s)

197 Huffpo: Here's What Happens When Lesbians Touch A Penis For The First Time

HuffPo with the hard news.



That bends left.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 10:19 AM (Yu4ah)

198 Klavan is a true twit if he thinks Rubio is all that. Rubio has been shown to be a weathervane.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 05, 2016 10:01 AM (kXoT0)


Eh. I like Klavan. He's usually on target. Plus he writes good books.

But, I think a lot of Republicans see Rubio like Democrat saw Obama-

as a great shot to nominate/elect a Black Guy instead of some old white guy from their party.


Rubio is even better in some ways:

1) While Obama's not a gargoyle. In no way, is he a handsome man.

Rubio is pretty much a exact copy of a Kewpie Doll with darker, better (though rapidly thinning hair)

2) Rubio is a very convincing speaker. And a passionate one.

Much more so than Obama's above it all bored with you lowly turds, i am the way speechifying

3) Like Obama, he knows who are and serves his masters or at least does their bidding to get cash for himself and his cronies.

Only Rubio showed this aspect too early. If he'd kept this aspect hidden to his voters and let the GOPe types in on who he really was in secret-

Yes. He would be probably be the favorite in the polling.

For instance, right now, he's fighting to end Due Process.

WTF? Right?

So, he while he will never be Prez. I expect he will do quite well on FOX and MSNBC or whoever as the new pet conservative commenter.


Klavern and so forth just can't let go of their Rubio Dream.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 05, 2016 10:20 AM (KUa85)

199 "192 Dudes we are fucked beyond the wildest imaginings of the most tinfoil covered fundamental separatist in Ruby Ridge, Waco, Texas, USA.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 05, 2016 10:16 AM (xuouz)"

This.

Posted by: Guy Who Fuckin' Hates It When People Post "This" at January 05, 2016 10:20 AM (u5gzz)

200 Huffpo: Here's What Happens When Lesbians Touch A Penis For The First Time


it was Hill and Bill wasnt it

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 10:20 AM (zOTsN)

201
this executive order, in addition to being unenforceable, does not have the force of law
Posted by: ThunderB



Executive orders have the full force of law when they take authority from a legislative power which grants its power directly to the Executive by the Constitution, or are made pursuant to Acts of Congress that explicitly delegate to the President some degree of discretionary power (delegated legislation).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 10:21 AM (kdS6q)

202
It is to provide a basis for ATF agents to go to gunshows and check papers and hassle people.








I forsee a lot of "I'm with the ATF Agent ->" T-Shirts being sold at gun shows..... And folks just randomly walking next to suspiciously bullet-headed guys at the show.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 05, 2016 10:22 AM (j4wsR)

203
Huffpo: Here's What Happens When Lesbians Touch A Penis For The First Time

HuffPo with the hard news.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 05, 2016 10:18 AM (yeZ4s)








*snort*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 05, 2016 10:23 AM (j4wsR)

204 Doesn't appear so.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 10:17 AM (Yu4ah)

Just uninteresting, then. Muchas gracias.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 05, 2016 10:23 AM (xuouz)

205 Rubio's a relative noob, and he still has enough embarrassing fumbles that it indicates his future performance will be at least as bad.

He inspires no confidence in me whatsoever.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 05, 2016 10:23 AM (yeZ4s)

206 Thanks Lauren. Kwanzaa disappeared down the memory hole so quietly that I never noticed it was gone.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - SMOD The Destroyer Of SCOAMFs now at the Outrage Outlet! at January 05, 2016 10:24 AM (hLRSq)

207
Am I banned?
Posted by: Ghost of kari







If so, say something scandalous. Might as well get your full value for bannination.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 05, 2016 10:25 AM (j4wsR)

208
Posted by: Carol at January 05, 2016 09:06 AM (sj3Ax)

I'm here, Carol. Just lurking. I think a lot of my misery last year was from an overdose of the HQ - not the place itself, but the daily load of bad news. Over and over and over again. Sadly, I don't have Fenelon's spiritual / emotional stability, so the relentless decline of America has burned me out. I'm trying to cut back hanging out hereto, if not be happy (ha! like that will happen), at least be less unhappy than 2015.


The article was basically a hit piece on Trump. The writer likes Rubio and Cruz. How someone could simultaneously support that pair is baffling.

Yeah, I like Klavan, but the "if Trump's the nominee, I'm not voting and will spend all my time telling you what dumbasses you are," rant just put him on my "ignore" list.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 05, 2016 10:25 AM (X6fMO)

209 Executive orders have the full force of law when they take authority from a legislative power which grants its power directly to the Executive by the Constitution, or are made pursuant to Acts of Congress that explicitly delegate to the President some degree of discretionary power (delegated legislation).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 10:21 AM (kdS6q)


Ha! I copied and pasted the exact same thing at 167. This was not delegated to the POTUS by the consitution or Congress and it is not in the undelying legislation he is relying on

its not a lawful order

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 10:25 AM (zOTsN)

210 209:"its not a lawful order"

Unfortunately, this matters not in the least to the Federal Prosecutors.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 05, 2016 10:27 AM (4nmNX)

211

Congress should sue, and defund. McDonnell and Ryan should be on fire over this

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 10:28 AM (zOTsN)

212 McDonnell and Ryan should be on fire over this
Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 10:28 AM (zOTsN)

And McConnell also, because that guy McDonnell is a good old boy drinking buddy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 05, 2016 10:29 AM (gf8BH)

213 heh

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 10:30 AM (zOTsN)

214 If you notice, Cuomo in ny has been stress testing the EO angle for awhile now. Obama is just making it national. If not shot down it'll be the new normal.

Posted by: Bigby's Fistful of Dice at January 05, 2016 10:31 AM (AENO/)

215 Re: Confessions of a Columnist - he underestimated Trump.

Duh. On Morning Joe today they had a young reporter who was all excited because she had read Trump's "Art of the Deal" and --- wouldn't you know it! --- Trump was behaving just as he had instructed in the book. It's the MSM, so they're slow about these things, but it was funny to watch because she was all "why won't the other candidates see he's doing this?". Yes, especially when so many of us "rubes" saw what he was doing from the get-go with his immigration/border fence proposals; ask for 3x what you want so your compromise gets you what you want.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 10:32 AM (NOIQH)

216 First of all, Congress won't do one thing. So that's a non-starter.

I don't see how this EO gets acted on.

Like I said, they will use it as a basis to hassle people. rickb223 says they already do hassle people. Okay, they will hassle them more.

I suppose they will cause individuals not to sell at gun shows and send them all to armslist.

Posted by: blaster at January 05, 2016 10:33 AM (2Ocf1)

217

Sally Kohn? I'd hit it...

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 05, 2016 10:33 AM (HSmrB)

218 "Unfortunately, this matters not in the least to the Federal Prosecutors."

All is proceeding as I have foreseen.

Posted by: Franz Kafka at January 05, 2016 10:33 AM (u5gzz)

219 @215 - anyone reading Scott Adam's (of Dilbert fame) blog?

Posted by: blaster at January 05, 2016 10:33 AM (2Ocf1)

220 I wonder how they would even know about private sellers, unless something happened? Certainly they wouldn't know when the transactions happened (before or after 'law' changed), unless the original gun purchase happened after and was tracked.

I guess this would be something they would try to hammer someone with later?
Posted by: Lea at January 05, 2016 09:46 AM (lIU4e)


The good judge Napolitano was on F&F this morning, and he said that if the EO's include a provision to limit private transactions by requiring an FFL, a Federal judge will immediately strike it down because there has been three different bills go through Congress attempting to do the same thing and all were defeated by bipartisian votes. He said that the executive branch cannot revive and "pass" legislation through EO's that congress has defeated.

He gave the example of Obama's EO granting illegals legal status that was struck down by the federal judge last year.

Posted by: Jen the original at January 05, 2016 10:34 AM (9t8XZ)

221 Alright, everybody just calm down about the gun control thing.

I can safely say that-


Impeachment is off the table.


And, as a bonus, since we already funded the ACA and planned Parenthood through 2017-

we'll be taking a meaningless vote on ending PP funding and modifying the ACA.

Welp, time for a shot of good Kentucky bourbon.

My work here is done.

Posted by: The Turtle and Eddie Munster at January 05, 2016 10:35 AM (KUa85)

222 Hey so what's the deal with Hillary's secret bible study group? "The Family"? It looks like some opus dei shit.
http://bit.ly/1LIN4EE
Far be it from me to lean heavily on Salon's take (I just warshed my hands) but this has to just be a different group of socialists, right? And a coping mechanism, right?
Could she ever have thought she'd whip out her intensely Christian faith and try to swing Republicans with it? She would have done so in 2008 though, right? Or did she just never get around to it?

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 05, 2016 10:35 AM (xuouz)

223 >>anyone reading Scott Adam's (of Dilbert fame) blog?

I haven't been reading it, but I've seen a lot of excerpts posted here and on other blogs. Adams seems to have a much better assessment of Donald than anyone else by far.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 10:35 AM (NOIQH)

224 Oslo police, "We have lost the city."

Because you have given up. You didn't lose it, you gave it away.

Posted by: A.Smythers, A Celt at January 05, 2016 10:35 AM (bmMc2)

225 I cant believe how many shitty movies Hwd churns out every year. They all have name actors, too. The stories are dismal. They think they the are edgy and different. But who wants to see that shit? I bet most people arent even aware of these movies. I wasnt. I dont know how any business gets away with it.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 05, 2016 10:36 AM (iQIUe)

226 Oh sure, the EPA will cover up and obfuscate the exact DETAILS of the mine disaster. But the essentially cause is pretty obvious: the vast and boundless incompetence, sloppiness, and hypocrisy of the EPA itself.

Posted by: Stu-22 at January 05, 2016 10:36 AM (rUc9h)

227 Doctors can report some mentally ill patients to FBI under new gun control rule

I can see people NOT getting care because of that... and that also would NOT have stopped any of the past attacks...In the CT School thing, the guns belonged to the Mother

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 05, 2016 10:36 AM (gf8BH)

228
This was not delegated to the POTUS by the consitution or Congress and it is not in the undelying legislation he is relying on its not a lawful order
Posted by: ThunderB



The EO part of Obama's proposal isn't out yet, all we have are the talking points, but if you read an actual EO they explicity refer to either the constitutional powers or the legislation that gives the President the ability to take action.

As such, they have the force of law, until a court rules otherwise. And since the Congress in their wisdom has passed a gazillion laws about everything under the sun, there's always some law that can be used.

But feel free to be a test case.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 10:37 AM (kdS6q)

229 160
Hey Vic (or anyone else) was the use of EEOC in the last thread a
reference to Equal Employment Opportunity Commission? Or something else?
It seemed to be used in a more homegrown fashion to refer to corruption
generally.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 05, 2016 10:02 AM (xuouz)

Yes, the EEOC which was a part of the 1964 civil rights act. iT is used by racists and Democrats (BIRM) to hinder elections, sue employees who fire worthless blacks, and be a weapon against Republicans in general when Democrats are in the executive. It should have been eliminated long ago. It was supposed to be only around for 5 years but no federal agency EVER goes away.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 10:37 AM (t2KH5)

230 Hillary said her New Year's Resolution was to ignore Trump.

If nothing else, the guy knows how to take on the Clintons.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 10:37 AM (659DL)

231 1 American dead and 2 wounded in attacks by the Taliban in Afghanistan. Appears the Taliban is preparing to retake the country.

Obama is by far the worst foreign policy president in our nation's history.

Posted by: Jackstraw at January 05, 2016 10:37 AM (/tuJf)

232 even if Obama cannot criminally prosecute people for violating his EO, he can send the IRS, ATF, etc on people. Like he likes to do with conservatives

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 10:37 AM (zOTsN)

233 He gave the example of Obama's EO granting illegals legal status that was struck down by the federal judge last year.

Except that didn't stop them.

Posted by: blaster at January 05, 2016 10:38 AM (2Ocf1)

234 Executive orders have the full force of law when they take authority from a legislative power which grants its power directly to the Executive by the Constitution,

I don't understand this line at all. Congress has no right to grant any of its Constitutional powers to any other branch. If it did, then it could amend the Constitution on its own by deciding to redistribute powers.

Maybe I'm reading this line incorrectly ... but I really don't get it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 05, 2016 10:38 AM (zc3Db)

235 The EO part of Obama's proposal isn't out yet, all we have are the talking points, but if you read an actual EO they explicity refer to either the constitutional powers or the legislation that gives the President the ability to take action.

As such, they have the force of law, until a court rules otherwise. And since the Congress in their wisdom has passed a gazillion laws about everything under the sun, there's always some law that can be used.

But feel free to be a test case.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 10:37 AM (kdS6q)


he has neither constituitonal powers nor legislation granting him the power

see Jen at post 220

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 10:40 AM (zOTsN)

236 I don't understand this line at all. Congress has no right to grant any of its Constitutional powers to any other branch. If it did, then it could amend the Constitution on its own by deciding to redistribute powers.

Maybe I'm reading this line incorrectly ... but I really don't get it.

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You are reading the Constitution way too literally - the delegation doctrine has been there all along.

/sarc

Posted by: SH at January 05, 2016 10:40 AM (gmeXX)

237 171
Congress should sue POTUS over this

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 10:07 AM (zOTsN)

No, then it will be tied up in the courts for decades and Obama would ignore the judge anyway, just like he is doing with his executive amnesty.

What they should do is impeach the crooked lying asshole.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 10:40 AM (t2KH5)

238 I don't understand this line at all. Congress has no right to grant any of its Constitutional powers to any other branch.

Congress has been deferring implementation via legislative language to the executive for DECADES on an entire raft of issues.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 10:40 AM (659DL)

239
I haven't been reading it, but I've seen a lot of excerpts posted here and on other blogs. Adams seems to have a much better assessment of Donald than anyone else by far.


Adams starts from the point of having read Trump's Art of the Deal.

That's why I point it out.

Suddenly "journalists" read Trump's book?

Posted by: blaster at January 05, 2016 10:41 AM (2Ocf1)

240 Executive orders have the full force of law when they take authority from a legislative power which grants its power directly to the Executive by the Constitution,


It means that if the congress passes a law that says carrots must be sold in every grocery store, then the president has the authority to make sure their are carrot police determining that every store offers carrots.
What it doesn't mean is that the President can say, Pfft, I have decided that grocery stores do not have to sell carrots and here's my EO to say so.

Posted by: Jen the original at January 05, 2016 10:41 AM (9t8XZ)

241 >>>He gave the example of Obama's EO granting illegals legal status that was struck down by the federal judge last year.

Except that didn't stop them.

Posted by: blaster at January 05, 2016 10:38 AM (2Ocf1)


And that un-Constitutional act merited impeachment, not a court case. In any event, it didn't matter. Barky is allowed to make any shit up that he wants. The Vichy GOP is happy to have let America be killed by the 84 IQ Indonesian dog-eating POS.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 05, 2016 10:41 AM (zc3Db)

242 >>Hey so what's the deal with Hillary's secret bible study group? "The Family"? It looks like some opus dei shit.

Yeah, a Rev Wright claims to be a Christian, too.
It always amazes me that the same people who freak out about separation of church and state for foootball game prayers and bakeries refusing SSM wedding cake requests will then fawn over someone like Hillary is totally using her "faith" for political purposes. That's not faith, hon.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 10:41 AM (NOIQH)

243

you can have a law on the books and decline to enforce it, see illegal alien deportation



you cannot prosecute something that is not a law

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 10:41 AM (zOTsN)

244 I'm surprised Obama hasn't signed an executive order nominating him for Best Actor at the Academy Awards.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet has Overstocked! Cranky-Pants and Grumpy Sweaters Buy 1 Get 1 Free! at January 05, 2016 10:42 AM (hLRSq)

245 What they should do is impeach the crooked lying asshole.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 10:40 AM (t2KH5)

Yeah no ...at this point with a year left, there is no time. Sad but true

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 05, 2016 10:43 AM (gf8BH)

246 209:"its not a lawful order"
Unfortunately, this matters not in the least to the Federal Prosecutors.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 05, 2016 10:27 AM (4nmNX)
___________

Prosecuting (persecuting) through regulatory actions is worse than civil or criminal law. There are almost no rights to the accused; lax/nonexistent rules of evidence; and the accused still has to spend beaucoup bucks to defend.

The purpose is harassment. The result is it works.

Think of the various bakers and florists prosecuted through regulations -- not 'law' but still bankruptcy. I think Insty has a lot on the regulatory state, as well as the Volokh guys.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 05, 2016 10:43 AM (MIKMs)

247 "Hillary said her New Year's Resolution was to ignore Trump."


I see she still has the stellar political instincts that made her such an evitable force in 2008.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet has Overstocked! Cranky-Pants and Grumpy Sweaters Buy 1 Get 1 Free! at January 05, 2016 10:43 AM (hLRSq)

248 246 I'm upping my life insurance.
Posted by: Liberal Bonesaw
-------------------

What caliber have you chosen?

Posted by: Roy at January 05, 2016 10:43 AM (rso4m)

249 Hey cobs-


One of you could do a quick post with video or ads from McConnell's last campaign-

where he ran all over Kentucky holding up a flintlock or some such and claimed-

I'll defend your right to bear arms to my last dying breath.

Or other malarky.


It would be a great contrast to his do-nothingism right now as Obama EO's elbows gun rights out of their Constitutional place.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 05, 2016 10:43 AM (KUa85)

250 Suddenly "journalists" read Trump's book?

I wonder if they will ever get around to reading Hillary's?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 10:43 AM (659DL)

251
What they should do is impeach the crooked lying asshole.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party

The House that just passed the omnipork bill should impeach JEF.

And Mitch the bitch should then preside over a 'trial' overseen by Chief Justice "It's a tax/fee/floorwax" Roberts.

And the dems will then vote against the lynching of the Manufactured Messiah. They bragged about covering for Bubba.

And then.........

Posted by: Blue Hen at January 05, 2016 10:44 AM (326rv)

252
he has neither constituitonal powers nor legislation granting him the power
see Jen at post 220
Posted by: ThunderB



That's in the Napkin's opinion. The EOs stands with the force of law until a court rules against it or Congress passes legislation explicitly saying otherwise.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 10:44 AM (kdS6q)

253 The purpose is harassment.


The process is the punishment.

Posted by: Grump928(c) withholds at January 05, 2016 10:44 AM (evdj2)

254 I'm surprised Obama hasn't signed an executive order nominating him for Best Actor at the Academy Awards.

He needs to rape DiCaprio first.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 10:44 AM (659DL)

255 I'm surprised Obama hasn't signed an executive order nominating him for Best Actor at the Academy Awards.

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What if you are an actor but identify as an actress?

Posted by: SH at January 05, 2016 10:44 AM (gmeXX)

256 they cant criminally prosecute anybody over this EO, but they will harrass people

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 10:45 AM (zOTsN)

257 What if you are an actor but identify as an actress?
Posted by: SH
---------------

Then, you are in the majority of actors on television today.

Posted by: Roy at January 05, 2016 10:46 AM (VndSC)

258 That's in the Napkin's opinion. The EOs stands with the force of law until a court rules against it or Congress passes legislation explicitly saying otherwise.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 10:44 AM (kdS6q)

so, ball is in McConnells and Ryans court

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 10:46 AM (zOTsN)

259 >>Suddenly "journalists" read Trump's book?

Oh, I'm sure she was looking for dirt, inconsistencies, etc. and wound up actually learning something.

I didn't know the book was the basis/starting point for Adam's Trump post - makes perfect sense!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 10:47 AM (NOIQH)

260 happy [sic] new year, Horde

I see the POTUS is still inimical to everything that is healthy, sane, and true

the silver lining is that this is his last year in office -- then he goes to the UN to succeed Ban Ki Moon

you heard it here first

Posted by: Feh at January 05, 2016 10:47 AM (jCu9t)

261 What if you are an actor but identify as an actress?

Posted by: SH at January 05, 2016 10:44 AM (gmeXX)


Best just stick with Best Actor - the ones that are cis-chick can be little crazy about losing out to a chick-by-choice.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet has Overstocked! Cranky-Pants and Grumpy Sweaters Buy 1 Get 1 Free! at January 05, 2016 10:48 AM (hLRSq)

262 >>I wonder if they will ever get around to reading Hillary's?

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 10:48 AM (NOIQH)

263 Prosecuting (persecuting) through regulatory actions is worse than civil or criminal law. There are almost no rights to the accused; lax/nonexistent rules of evidence; and the accused still has to spend beaucoup bucks to defend.

The purpose is harassment. The result is it works.



Until a guy flies a cessna into the building.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 10:48 AM (Yu4ah)

264 the silver lining is that this is his last year in office -- then he goes to the UN to succeed Ban Ki Moon

you heard it here first


An American cannot be Secretary-General.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 10:49 AM (659DL)

265 Doctors can report some mentally ill patients to FBI under new gun control rule

I can see people NOT getting care because of that... and that also would NOT have stopped any of the past attacks...In the CT School thing, the guns belonged to the Mother
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 05, 2016 10:36 AM


Which is why you can't have guns in the house if anyone in the house has 'mental health issues'.

Posted by: A.Smythers, A Celt at January 05, 2016 10:49 AM (bmMc2)

266 The EOs stands with the force of law

This is a tautology. The Executive is the enforcement arm so it decides what has "the force of law". It has nothing to do with "the law", really. Whatever the Executive branch decides to enforce "is" the law.

until a court rules against it or Congress passes legislation explicitly saying otherwise.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 10:44 AM (kdS6q)


That hasn't stopped Barky and his junta before. I don't see why anyone would think it would stop him in the future. He IS the law. Congress is the only arm with the power to actually stop him and they steadfastly refuse to do so and have pledged to never stop him from doing anything.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 05, 2016 10:49 AM (zc3Db)

267 And why is Hollywood of all places forcing people to identify as an actor or actress. Shouldn't they be more progressive?

Posted by: SH at January 05, 2016 10:49 AM (gmeXX)

268 260 Posted by: Feh at January 05, 2016 10:47 AM (jCu9t)

I doubt it...the plebians hate the Patricians at the Star Wars cantina, so unless he cedes our Security Council seat no dice.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 10:49 AM (g8Hfr)

269
What it doesn't mean is that the President can say, Pfft, I have decided that grocery stores do not have to sell carrots and here's my EO to say so.
Posted by: Jen the original



Yes he can, because inevitably there will be another law somewhere on the books that allows the Feds to suspend commerce in this or that in certain circumstances. And any conflict between the laws is a matter for the courts or congress.

When you have furlongs of laws on the books, there will always be a law that can be used.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 10:49 AM (kdS6q)

270 "An American cannot be Secretary-General."

oh, pshaw

Posted by: Lord Obama at January 05, 2016 10:49 AM (jCu9t)

271 he silver lining is that this is his last year in office -- then he goes to the UN to succeed Ban Ki Moon

you heard it here first

An American cannot be Secretary-General.

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So you are saying Obama has a chance.

Posted by: SH at January 05, 2016 10:50 AM (gmeXX)

272 270 "An American cannot be Secretary-General."

oh, pshaw



So, Barky the Kenyan.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 10:50 AM (Yu4ah)

273 264 Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 10:49 AM (659DL)

A Kenyan Marxist can't be PotUS...things change...

*if* giggles ceded our Security Council seat he could...

better not give him ideas.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 05, 2016 10:50 AM (g8Hfr)

274 Yeah, a Rev Wright claims to be a Christian, too.

I guess that makes me a brain surgeon.

Or an astronaut. I should probably call NASA to let them know I'm available.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2016 10:51 AM (LUgeY)

275 Obama will renounce his American citizenship. He is a "world citizen" and will take his seat as one of The Elders.

http://theelders.org/

Posted by: Feh at January 05, 2016 10:51 AM (jCu9t)

276 Even if Hillary has faith, she sees it as a tool.
It is not informing her choices, but justifying them.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 10:51 AM (NOIQH)

277 So, Barky the Kenyan.

We're going to find out on January 21, 2017 that he identified as a foreign student in college. This I WILL predict.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 10:52 AM (659DL)

278 the silver lining is that this is his last year in office -- then he goes to the UN to succeed Ban Ki Moon
you heard it here first
An American cannot be Secretary-General.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 10:49 AM (659DL)
_________

If the US gives up its Security Council spot, yes, it is possible. Probably need rhomboid to weigh in, but that is my understanding.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 05, 2016 10:52 AM (MIKMs)

279 An American cannot be Secretary-General.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 10:49 AM (659DL)

Check my pen and phone game, yo.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 05, 2016 10:52 AM (xuouz)

280 I also predict that more allegations will come to light regarding Bill Clinton's predations on women, leading Hillary to divorce him in triumph.

Posted by: Feh at January 05, 2016 10:52 AM (jCu9t)

281 Yeah, a Rev Wright claims to be a Christian, too.

I guess that makes me a brain surgeon.

Or an astronaut. I should probably call NASA to let them know I'm available.


Or, as I say...in much the same way that I am Scarlett Johannsson.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 10:53 AM (659DL)

282 Hillary would burn Bill at the stake if it would get her elected

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 10:53 AM (zOTsN)

283 >>An American cannot be Secretary-General.

I don't think this is an actual rule, more like a mutual agreement amounts the SC members. And in the age of Obama one thing we know is mutual agreements mean nothing. Hell, laws mean nothing if they don't suit Obama.

Posted by: Jackstraw at January 05, 2016 10:53 AM (/tuJf)

284 Reviewing auto and home insurance today...


You would think there would be an app out there where all the pertinent information is entered once then dozens of insurance companies would bid on the business.

Then, all the results would come back on one spreadsheet so they could be evaluated.

If anyone knows of such an animal, let me know.

Posted by: jwest at January 05, 2016 10:55 AM (Zs4uk)

285 He'll probably play golf until he's invited to some higher seat at the global table.

You know, because begging him is the only permitted way to stroke his vanity.

The world, of course, is mad.

Posted by: Feh at January 05, 2016 10:55 AM (jCu9t)

286 New York state Senator Roxanne Persaud and Assemblywoman Jo Anne Simon from
downstate are proposing ammo restrictions, limiting the number of
bullets people could buy. But one gun merchant says it would do more
harm to legal gun owners than it would to stop the criminals.


The legislation would limit the amount of ammunition a gun owner could buy to twice the gun's capacity every 90 days.

Posted by: Colin at January 05, 2016 10:55 AM (T3Tpd)

287 So, Barky the Kenyan.

We're going to find out on January 21, 2017 that he identified as a foreign student in college. This I WILL predict.
Posted by: Circa



Sucker bet. Not taking it.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 10:56 AM (Yu4ah)

288 http://theelders.org/

"We donh't have the authority that we used to, but we can still tell long stories that don't go anywhere, like the time I was negotiating the World Carrot Day Treaty. I was in the Winter palace with Yeltsin and we were getting down to brass tacks. he was demanding that we place medium range missiles in Western Europe and I was countering with my demand that beets not be on the lunch menu. That's when a phone call came in from Maria Theresa, the Hapsburg Empress, and she offered up Patagonia and a second round draft pick..."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet has Overstocked! Cranky-Pants and Grumpy Sweaters Buy 1 Get 1 Free! at January 05, 2016 10:56 AM (hLRSq)

289 The legislation would limit the amount of ammunition a gun owner could buy to twice the gun's capacity every 90 days.

Isn't capacity limited to 10 rounds in the People's Republic of New York? So, 20 rounds every three months?

Posted by: Grump928(c) withholds at January 05, 2016 10:57 AM (evdj2)

290 Or, as I say...in much the same way that I am Scarlett Johannsson.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 10:53 AM (659DL)


So you're a chick? Are you factory standard or customized, IYKWIM.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet has Overstocked! Cranky-Pants and Grumpy Sweaters Buy 1 Get 1 Free! at January 05, 2016 10:58 AM (hLRSq)

291 Smuggling will be yuge after the emburnening.

Yuge.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 05, 2016 10:58 AM (u5gzz)

292 New York state Senator Roxanne Persaud and Assemblywoman Jo Anne Simon from downstate are proposing ammo restrictions, limiting the number of bullets people could buy. But one gun merchant says it would do more harm to legal gun owners than it would to stop the criminals.


The legislation would limit the amount of ammunition a gun owner could buy to twice the gun's capacity every 90 days.


Play nice ladies. Remember, it only took one to cap Gabby Giffords. Not sayin'. Just sayin'.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 10:58 AM (Yu4ah)

293 I think a lot of my misery last year was from an overdose of the HQ - not the place itself, but the daily load of bad news.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 05, 2016 10:25 AM (X6fMO)


I take periodic breaks from 'news' after pretty much every election. And sometimes other times. I do think the atmosphere has gotten down lately, which was a drag during the holidays!

But I enjoy your tidbits on Hollywood! I have a friend in contact with a vintage person trying to track down Nora's fab plaid hat from the first Thin Man movie.

Posted by: Lea at January 05, 2016 10:59 AM (lIU4e)

294 So you're a chick?

I believe you missed my point.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 10:59 AM (659DL)

295 Oslo is like watching a consensual snuff film. Nauseating, puzzling, but not tragic, since both parties desire what's going on.

Posted by: Armin Meiwes at January 05, 2016 10:59 AM (lHyWr)

296 256
they cant criminally prosecute anybody over this EO, but they will harrass people

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 10:45 AM (zOTsN)


He most certainly can and most certainly will. It is called lawfare. Anyone who violates his XO in effect violates the gun control act because he has tied the order to the act via the definition of a gun dealer.

And all of you people saying a two sales/deals are not correct. As the article I saw described it, the wording does not include an exact number it leaves that to circumstances or bureaucrats. IN a telephone conversation with reporters the WH says they "could" go for only one".

So if you give little Johnny a squirrel rifle for Christmas and don't have an FFL and apply for a background check you have committed a felony and so has little Johnny. Sure you can probably beat the rap because it is unconstitutional as hell; IF you have several hundred thousand dollars to fight it all the way to the Supreme court.

That is why it is called lawfare.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 10:59 AM (t2KH5)

297 But one gun merchant says it would do more harm to legal gun owners than it would to stop the criminals.

Feature, not bug. Criminals vote Democrat. Legitimate gun owners don't.

Posted by: V the K at January 05, 2016 11:00 AM (O7MnT)

298 Oslo is like watching a consensual snuff film.

Certain parts of Europe are overcompensating JUST A BIT for WWII.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 11:01 AM (659DL)

299 So if you give little Johnny a squirrel rifle for Christmas and don't have an FFL and apply for a background check you have committed a felony and so has little Johnny.



How do you do a background check on "little" Johnny if he has a concealed handgun license and is exempt?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 11:01 AM (Yu4ah)

300 286,

Twice the capacity of the gun over 90 days? And we're talking NYS limits here which are absurdly low per gun. They had to fix Cuomo's fucked up gun bill because they forgot to grandfather in police Glocks which had over the legal number of bullets per mag.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 05, 2016 11:01 AM (PCof0)

301 I believe you missed my point.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 10:59 AM (659DL)


Not entirely.
"Factory standard or customized" was the joke. Like "cis-chick or chick-by-choice".

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet has Overstocked! Cranky-Pants and Grumpy Sweaters Buy 1 Get 1 Free! at January 05, 2016 11:02 AM (hLRSq)

302 298,

Norway should be used to a fifth column fucking over the rest of the country. That IS their WWII experience.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 05, 2016 11:02 AM (PCof0)

303 My NPR-loving wife insists that President Obama hasn't issued any more executive orders than any previous president, and Hillary Clinton's email use is identical to all previous Secretaries of State. She wants me to stop reading right wing Internet propaganda.

So frustrating.

Posted by: Pyrocles at January 05, 2016 11:03 AM (MYMcU)

304 I have a friend in contact with a vintage person trying to track down Nora's fab plaid hat from the first Thin Man movie. Posted by: Lea at January 05, 2016 10:59 AM (lIU4e)That would be lovely to own, Lea. I have a hat supposedly worn by Theda Bara (though, frankly, I could have been cheated). Outside of two autographed photos of her from Cleopatra, it's the most expensive thing I've ever purchased; I'm afraid I don't have the deep pockets for the really good stuff. Good luck with the search!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 05, 2016 11:05 AM (X6fMO)

305 299 How do you do a background check on "little" Johnny if he has a concealed handgun license and is exempt?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 11:01 AM (Yu4ah)

That is a State thing, not federal. He will require it regardless of what the States do. It will be similar to what happened with machine guns. BION not all States outlawed machine guns but the feds did.
Besides, little Johnny can not own a handgun.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 11:06 AM (t2KH5)

306 My NPR-loving wife insists that President Obama hasn't issued any more executive orders than any previous president, and Hillary Clinton's email use is identical to all previous Secretaries of State. She wants me to stop reading right wing Internet propaganda.

So frustrating.


The figures are readily available to disprove your wife's first assertion. As to the second one, the proof is that she is currently under investigation.

Not that it would do any good, sounds like. You have my sympathy.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2016 11:07 AM (LUgeY)

307 In re, the legislation limiting the purchase of ammo in NY, that will work as well as the cigarette and gasoline taxes. If youse knowz a guy, youse getz youse bullets.

Reloading, how do it work?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 05, 2016 11:07 AM (kXoT0)

308
My NPR-loving wife insists that President Obama hasn't issued any more executive orders than any previous president


So she should have no problem with President Trump EO-ing the EPA, IRS, BLM and both DOEs out of existence, right?

I can feel my blood pressure rising. Time to leave.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 05, 2016 11:08 AM (X6fMO)

309 Rep. Dave Brat, R-Va., said Republicans in Congress will attempt to cut funding for any executive orders on gun control, but the legislative body has already given up much of its leverage by passing the omnibus budget bill just before Christmas.


Thank You Ryan, RINOs and SHILLs

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 05, 2016 11:08 AM (gf8BH)

310 Hillary Clinton's email use is identical to all previous Secretaries of State

Bullshit.

Next.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 11:09 AM (659DL)

311 307,

So... Mass runs to the Indian reservation or buying 9mm "loosies" off the next Eric Garner?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 05, 2016 11:09 AM (PCof0)

312 Obama has "fundamentally transformed" part of American life. He has transformed the rule book of politics. Getting young voters to the polls, motivating and getting out people who normally don't come out, moving via executive actions and orders are examples.

Donald Trump is the first person to truly catch on to that. He is saying all of the supposedly taboo things that will kill a candidacy and it isn't hurting him at all.

So yes, there is a fundamental transformation, it's just one that should make all establishmentarians (especially Democrats, the loud-and-proud Party of Government) very nervous.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet has Overstocked! Cranky-Pants and Grumpy Sweaters Buy 1 Get 1 Free! at January 05, 2016 11:09 AM (hLRSq)

313 Has anyone been to one of these gun shows without FFL restrictions? I can't remember one, other than a C&R only event, since the mid-90's.

Posted by: Jean at January 05, 2016 11:09 AM (fBkaR)

314 An American cannot be Secretary-General.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 10:49 AM (659DL)

Yea, about that.....

Posted by: previously unknown Kenyan birth cert at January 05, 2016 11:09 AM (N8hFs)

315 This Kohn fellow certainly has a face for radio.

Posted by: Valjar at January 05, 2016 09:50 AM (evdj2)



Right up there with that Maddow guy

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2016 11:09 AM (493sH)

316 In re, the legislation limiting the purchase of ammo in NY, that will work as well as the cigarette and gasoline taxes. If youse knowz a guy, youse getz youse bullets.

Reloading, how do it work?
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 05, 2016 11:07 AM (kXoT0)


I guess there are reasons why people choose to live in New Yak, Californica, and Masshole. I just cannot imagine what they are.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2016 11:10 AM (Dj0WE)

317 My NPR-loving wife insists that President Obama hasn't issued any more executive orders than any previous president


Alas, since it's your wife you cannot give a good response because, domestic harmony.

I've taken to asking people if they never tire of being the gullible rube to the media.

Posted by: Grump928(c) withholds at January 05, 2016 11:10 AM (evdj2)

318 Mornin' horde.

Is the POS flappin' his gums yet

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 05, 2016 11:11 AM (fWAjv)

319 "309 Rep. Dave Brat, R-Va., said Republicans in Congress will attempt to cut funding for any executive orders on gun control"

Stop it, Dave--you're killin' me, man!

Posted by: Pauli Ryan, Obama Fluffer at January 05, 2016 11:11 AM (u5gzz)

320 I have a relative who owns a gun shop in PA; it will be a good year for him.

Posted by: Jean at January 05, 2016 11:11 AM (fBkaR)

321 hahaha. Finally seeing the cologne attacks on msn. Abc only one of the big 3 with the story.

Germany stunned, Merkel "outraged"

ROFLMAO. They voted for this. They will take this up the ass. They must be enjoying this.

Posted by: Armin Meiwes at January 05, 2016 11:11 AM (lHyWr)

322 >>My NPR-loving wife insists that President Obama hasn't issued any more executive orders than any previous president, and Hillary Clinton's email use is identical to all previous Secretaries of State. She wants me to stop reading right wing Internet propaganda.

I don't suppose it helps pointing out that NPR is government (lefty government) sponsored propaganda does it?

She is technically right that Obama has not used EOs as much as some of his predecessors. But that misses the point. Obama's EOs, unlike his predecessors, are used to make huge changes in law. Previously, they were mostly used to help clarify laws or help enact them.

But her interpretation is what you get when you listen to the soothing tones of government propaganda on NPR.

Posted by: Jackstraw at January 05, 2016 11:11 AM (/tuJf)

323
Rep. Dave Brat, R-Va., said Republicans in Congress will attempt to cut funding for any executive orders on gun control, but the legislative body has already given up much of its leverage by passing the omnibus budget bill just before Christmas. Thank You Ryan, RINOs and SHILLs
Posted by: Nevergiveup



Thanks Thom!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 11:11 AM (kdS6q)

324 Dinner With Democrats night on Sunday evening, and you'll all enjoy it (I think).

A friend of mine works at Princeton and repeated the lefty tripe about 1 in 5 college girls being sexually assaulted. I laughed out loud, startling the table of Concerned People, and asked her if she was sure about that number. Think about it, I said: you have three thousand women at Princeton, roughly, and not a one of them shy or srupid. So if there had been even one rape or sexual assault, wouldnt that be on the tip of every rongue? If there were actually 600 assault victims there it would be a big story. Hell, it would be national news if a Princeton woman was raped on campus, and 600 victims would have the National Guard out. Last year in the whole town there wasnt a reported rape, much less at the University. Its an insane statistic.

I enjoyed the conversation that followed greatly and afterwards her husband came up to thank me for stating the obvious (ie, its all bullshit) . He actually told me he is hoping his wife comes to her senses and stops repeating these mass hysterias. This is good.

There is hope for some Democrats!

Posted by: MTF at January 05, 2016 11:12 AM (YtZB9)

325 How can you feel sorry for someone who dmiles and nods when you kick him in the head?

Posted by: Armin Meiwes at January 05, 2016 11:12 AM (lHyWr)

326 318
Mornin' horde.



Is the POS flappin' his gums yet

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 05, 2016 11:11 AM (fWAjv)

It was scheduled for 11:40 which means sometime after 12:00

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 11:13 AM (t2KH5)

327
My NPR-loving wife insists that President Obama hasn't issued any more executive orders than any previous president
Posted by: Pyrocles



Technically, she's not wrong:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 11:13 AM (kdS6q)

328 Where else but Calfornia:.........Why, why are some opposing our 90 billion dollar rail project....Merced to Chowchilla

in a flash.
Fresno Bee (very left wing)


Millennials are fast moving, and high-speed rail provides a transportation infrastructure to support that. The high-speed rail network would provide many benefits for millennials by offering faster travel and more job opportunities #8211; both directly through the addition of high-speed rail jobs and the ability to commute to a wider variety of job markets, and indirectly through the increased job opportunities that will be seen with a thriving economy, for which high-speed rail can lay the foundation. (BS piled high here)
Read more here: http://www.fresnobee.com/opinion/readers-opinion/article52559130.html#storylink=cpy

Posted by: Colin at January 05, 2016 11:13 AM (T3Tpd)

329
Thanks Thom!


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 05, 2016 11:11 AM (kdS6q)

Thanks Cruz.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 05, 2016 11:13 AM (jJRIy)

330 I have a relative who owns a gun shop in PA; it will be a good year for him.

Charles C.W. Cooke says Obama's "gun control" is actually corporatism in disguise, because it's mostly concentrated on private sellers of second-hand guns rather than gun shops and manufacturers.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 05, 2016 11:14 AM (S+N7W)

331 320
I have a relative who owns a gun shop in PA; it will be a good year for him.

Posted by: Jean at January 05, 2016 11:11 AM (fBkaR)

Last year was a record year for gun sales.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 11:14 AM (t2KH5)

332 Hillary Clinton's email use is identical to all previous Secretaries of State
-----------
Bullshit.

Next.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 11:09 AM (659DL)


No, it's true! Why, Henry Stimson was known to wipe down things with a cloth during his stint as SoS.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2016 11:14 AM (Dj0WE)

333 That would be lovely to own, Lea. I have a hat supposedly worn by Theda Bara (though, frankly, I could have been cheated). Outside of two autographed photos of her from Cleopatra, it's the most expensive thing I've ever purchased; I'm afraid I don't have the deep pockets for the really good stuff. Good luck with the search!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 05, 2016 11:05 AM (X6fMO)


Oh gosh! I don't think he's actually looking for the actual hat, although that would be nice. Probably too expensive though. I think he's probably looking for something similar.

Posted by: Lea at January 05, 2016 11:15 AM (lIU4e)

334 It was scheduled for 11:40 which means sometime after 12:00

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 11:13 AM (t2KH5)

Thanks. 12? Is he trying to be more punctual in 2016?

Money on 12:08.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 05, 2016 11:15 AM (fWAjv)

335 286 New York state Senator Roxanne Persaud and Assemblywoman Jo Anne Simon from
downstate are proposing ammo restrictions, limiting the number of
bullets people could buy. But one gun merchant says it would do more
harm to legal gun owners than it would to stop the criminals.


But that's pretty much the case with every anti-gun law.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 05, 2016 11:16 AM (OBp0J)

336 Don't quote me but I thought I heard this morning that sales are up 45 percent over last year. Compound that with the increases YOY.

Damn fine salesman.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 05, 2016 11:16 AM (fWAjv)

337 Donald Trump is the first person to truly catch on to that. He is saying all of the supposedly taboo things that will kill a candidacy and it isn't hurting him at all.


My advisers say Trump will start fading any day now. That will be when voters realize that what they want is a steady hand on the tiller. A white, pudgy, dull, Latino-loving establishment hand who has one of the most respected names in American politics.

That's what my advisers are telling me, anyway.

Posted by: El Gobernador Jeb Bush at January 05, 2016 11:17 AM (RU5ki)

338 Millennials are fast moving, and high-speed rail provides a transportation infrastructure to support that.

The high-speed rail network would provide many benefits for millennials by offering faster travel and more job opportunities #8211; both directly through the addition of high-speed rail jobs and the ability to commute to a wider variety of job markets



If the train stops more than at it's destination, it's no longer "high speed". It's a regular train.

So all of those cities it will pass by, are just that. Passed by.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 11:19 AM (Yu4ah)

339 No, it's true! Why, Henry Stimson was known to wipe down things with a cloth during his stint as SoS.


Seward didn't even use a cloth. He just wiped his hard drives with his shirt sleeves. Then he bought Alaska.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2016 11:19 AM (RU5ki)

340 But one gun merchant says it would do more
harm to legal gun owners than it would to stop the criminals.

-------------------------
But that's pretty much the case with every anti-gun law.
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 05, 2016 11:16 AM (OBp0J)


One gun merchant? Why do I have a feeling this fella is going to get a visit from the ATF, the IRS, and likely the EPA and FDA?


I guess this is a perverse form of capitalism at work. One gun merchant tells the truth, 99 lie through their teeth, and the 99 keep on selling ammo as they always have.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2016 11:19 AM (Dj0WE)

341 I can feel my blood pressure rising. Time to leave.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 05, 2016 11:08 AM (X6fMO)


Yeah, I agree you need to shut up and get the hell out of here.

(So you can finish up your second Theda Bara mystery. I'm looking forward to pimping it on the Sunday book thread.)

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 05, 2016 11:19 AM (OBp0J)

342 Oh, I listen to NPR. Sometimes it's actually quite good, and sometimes it's just good anger-induced cardiovascular exercise.

As incoming President, I would have in hand on the first day the list of executive orders issued since, oh, 1960 that I was NOT going to rescind en masse.

Then we'll get to the inspectors general and special prosecutors...

Posted by: JEM at January 05, 2016 11:20 AM (4A7Uz)

343 Last year was a record year for gun sales.

All the gun manufacturers should pitch in and buy TFP a nice fruit basket.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2016 11:20 AM (LUgeY)

344 Neil DeGrasse Tyson is now opining how odd aliens would find kissing


what a self parody. what a joke

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 11:20 AM (zOTsN)

345 >>Millennials are fast moving, and high-speed rail provides a transportation infrastructure to support that....

Was that written by an 8th grader?
The whole thing was stupid ---why milenials?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 11:20 AM (NOIQH)

346 New York state Senator Roxanne Persaud and Assemblywoman Jo Anne Simon from downstate are proposing ammo restrictions, limiting the number of bullets people could buy

Reports say that the super-secret Fife Codicil of the bill allows one bullet per gun owner, and it can only be carried in a shirt pocket.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2016 11:21 AM (RU5ki)

347 "Hillary said her New Year's Resolution was to ignore Trump."

She'll take my calls.

Posted by: Trump at January 05, 2016 11:21 AM (WFQ1Q)

348 Neil DeGrasse Tyson is now opining how odd alienswomen would find kissing him

Fixed it for him.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 05, 2016 11:21 AM (S+N7W)

349 Hey, I got a good idea. Let's make college FREE and there won't be any more student debt.
I don't know why nobody has thought of that.

Posted by: Hank at January 05, 2016 11:22 AM (AqfcR)

350 344 Neil DeGrasse Tyson is now opining how odd aliens would find kissing


what a self parody. what a joke
Posted by: ThunderB


What about anal probing?????

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 11:23 AM (Yu4ah)

351 Reports say that the super-secret Fife Codicil of the bill allows one bullet per gun owner, and it can only be carried in a shirt pocket.
Posted by: Cicero
--------------------

Colloquially referred to by insiders as 'The Mayberry Covenant'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 05, 2016 11:23 AM (n22zQ)

352 351 Reports say that the super-secret Fife Codicil of the bill allows one bullet per gun owner, and it can only be carried in a shirt pocket.
Posted by: Cicero
--------------------

Colloquially referred to by insiders as 'The Mayberry Covenant'


The RFD Gambit.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 11:24 AM (Yu4ah)

353 Finally seeing the cologne attacks on msn. Abc only one of the big 3 with the story.



Germany stunned, Merkel "outraged"

What about unexpected? Surely nobody expected large numbers of young men from violent, misogynist, third world cultures would act like this.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 05, 2016 11:25 AM (1BQGO)

354 Last year was a record year for gun sales.

All the gun manufacturers should pitch in and buy TFP a nice fruit basket.

Don't forget the pineapple.

Posted by: aoSHQ Welcoming CommitteA at January 05, 2016 11:26 AM (326rv)

355 No, it's true! Why, Henry Stimson was known to wipe down things with a cloth during his stint as SoS.


Seward didn't even use a cloth. He just wiped his hard drives with his shirt sleeves. Then he bought Alaska.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2016 11:19 AM (RU5ki)


Oddly enough, John Foster Dulles wiped everything until it had a high shine.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2016 11:26 AM (Dj0WE)

356 I wonder if any of the widows and orphans of Fast and Furious will be at the phone-and-pen ceremony.

Posted by: william at January 05, 2016 11:26 AM (cwAFZ)

357 FDR had by far the most XOs but he had 4 years to do it and, like OBama, he was a commie. Also, congress gave him virtually carte blanche during WWII. But that is no different than Obama, only they have no excuse for him.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 11:26 AM (t2KH5)

358 So, they dont want legal gun owners to go to the range and practice?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 05, 2016 11:27 AM (iQIUe)

359 354 Last year was a record year for gun sales.

All the gun manufacturers should pitch in and buy TFP a nice fruit basket.

Don't forget the pineapple.



Send him a beet and rutabaga basket.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 11:27 AM (Yu4ah)

360 254 I'm surprised Obama hasn't signed an executive order nominating him for Best Actor at the Academy Awards.

He needs to rape DiCaprio first.

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Check!

Posted by: SCOAMF at January 05, 2016 11:28 AM (rUc9h)

361 349
Hey, I got a good idea. Let's make college FREE and there won't be any more student debt.

I don't know why nobody has thought of that.





Posted by: Hank at January 05, 2016 11:22 AM (AqfcR)

And we could make all the staff federal employees and pay them the same as their in-state high school equivalents plus 5%.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 11:28 AM (t2KH5)

362 Happy f*cking New Year, all. Been away for a bit.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 05, 2016 11:28 AM (FsuaD)

363 Germany stunned, Merkel "outraged"

What about unexpected? Surely nobody expected large numbers of young men from violent, misogynist, third world cultures would act like this.
Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 05, 2016 11:25 AM (1BQGO)


Another time to post the Norm McDonald prison rape scene video... perhaps.


It's the lack of respect that hurts the most... well, the other thing hurts the most, but the lack of respect hurts the second most. Ridiculous!

Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2016 11:28 AM (Dj0WE)

364 indirectly through the increased job opportunities that will be seen with a thriving economy, for which high-speed rail can lay the foundation

Hmmm, if only there were an existing, cost-effective way to move rapidly between major business centers.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 11:28 AM (659DL)

365
I wish Florida had not done away with old sparky so they could put Oscar Bolin's wife in his lap and do away with them both. What a despicable woman. Including the one before that who died.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 05, 2016 11:28 AM (iQIUe)

366 358 So, they dont want legal gun owners to go to the range and practice?




Go to the streets to practice. More reactive targets there.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 11:28 AM (Yu4ah)

367 254 I'm surprised Obama hasn't signed an executive order nominating him for Best Actor at the Academy Awards.

He needs to rape DiCaprio first.

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I GOT THERE FIRST! IN MY BEAR COSTUME!

Posted by: Bill Clinton, screaming from the Outer Darkness at January 05, 2016 11:29 AM (rUc9h)

368 362
Happy f*cking New Year, all. Been away for a bit.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 05, 2016 11:28 AM (FsuaD)

Hi Jane; I was just down in GA for the last four days of the year visiting. I was about 150 miles East of you.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 11:30 AM (t2KH5)

369 254 I'm surprised Obama hasn't signed an executive order nominating him for Best Actor at the Academy Awards.

He needs to rape DiCaprio first.

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I GOT THERE FIRST! IN MY BEAR COSTUME!
Posted by: Bill Clinton, screaming from the Outer Darkness at January 05, 2016 11:29 AM (rUc9h)


Nah, remember Decrapio was a child actor before he became an Important Thespian.


Numerous nameless Hollywood producers and casting agents got there first.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2016 11:30 AM (Dj0WE)

370 Germany stunned?

I thought German girls were kinky?

Posted by: Jean at January 05, 2016 11:31 AM (fBkaR)

371 Love the iowahawk quote


If I understand college administrators correctly, colleges are hotbeds of racism and rape that everyone should be able to attend.


*forget who posted it the other day but first time I had seen it.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 05, 2016 11:31 AM (fWAjv)

372 Hi Jane. How's D'oh Boy?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 05, 2016 11:31 AM (kff5f)

373 Hi Jane; I was just down in GA for the last four days of the year visiting. I was about 150 miles East of you.


Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 11:30 AM (t2KH5)


Hope you had a nice visit. Christmas in ATL sucked ass. As usual.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 05, 2016 11:31 AM (FsuaD)

374 362 Happy f*cking New Year, all. Been away for a bit.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 05, 2016 11:28 AM (FsuaD)


Jane, did you tell the story of your awful holiday season yet?

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 05, 2016 11:33 AM (OBp0J)

375 Hope you had a nice visit. Christmas in ATL sucked ass. As usual.


Had a less-than-merry time?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2016 11:33 AM (LUgeY)

376
Jeb! / Sally Kohn 2016!

Desperate Times Call For Disparate Meagers

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2016 11:33 AM (BK3ZS)

377 Anyone wants a political office so badly-who has no qualms about how they achieve it- and no discernible humility probably deserves to get the job. It's like some instructional lessons from the first ten chapters, of Ecclesiastes but as least Solomon (who was a king but not running for office) learned that a life without God but everything else is simply vanity, and he at least had great wisdom. Hillary not so much.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 05, 2016 11:34 AM (M+RRn)

378 Jane, did you tell the story of your awful holiday season yet?

C'mon Jane, spill it.

*sits cross-legged on floor in anticipation*

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 05, 2016 11:34 AM (LUgeY)

379 Desperate Times Call For Disparate Meagers

Ha! This is either an autocucumber typo or brilliant humor, I'm not sure which.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 05, 2016 11:35 AM (OBp0J)

380 373 Hope you had a nice visit. Christmas in ATL sucked ass. As usual.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 05, 2016 11:31 AM (FsuaD)

I was in Atlanta, downtown federal building, on buisness, about 15 years ago. Yes, it blew chunks. But I had a nice visit down mid-state. Only gained 2 pounds with all the eats.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 05, 2016 11:35 AM (t2KH5)

381
Jane, did you tell the story of your awful holiday season yet?


Posted by: OregonMuse at January 05, 2016 11:33 AM (OBp0J)


Nope.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 05, 2016 11:35 AM (FsuaD)

382 Oy. *facepalm*

Posted by: sally kohn's rabbi at January 05, 2016 11:36 AM (ohHw+)

383 >>I'm surprised Obama hasn't signed an executive order nominating him for Best Actor at the Academy Awards.


The bride at every wedding, the corpse at every funeral. Recall that Michelle Obama has already shoe-horned her way into a previous Academy Awards show where she announced nominees and the winner (forget which category) from the WH in formalwear and flanked by Marine-props.
There is to escape from these media whores.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 11:36 AM (NOIQH)

384 Thanks. 12? Is he trying to be more punctual in 2016?

Money on 12:08.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA


12:06 when the music plays.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 05, 2016 11:36 AM (FkBIv)

385
How come this blog has no Daily Radish? We have a source on the ground who could be reporting on the immigration crisis in europe. which affects us, too, but we dont use her???

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 05, 2016 11:36 AM (iQIUe)

386 Is that the press clapping and woo-hooing the prezzy?
WTF

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 11:37 AM (NOIQH)

387
Millennials are fast moving, and high-speed rail provides a transportation infrastructure to support that.

The high-speed rail network would provide many benefits for millennials by offering faster travel and more job opportunities #8211; both directly through the addition of high-speed rail jobs and the ability to commute to a wider variety of job markets



If the train stops more than at it's destination, it's no longer "high speed". It's a regular train.

So all of those cities it will pass by, are just that. Passed by.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 05, 2016 11:19 AM (Yu4ah)









In other words, HSR is a transportation subsidy for lefty suckers of cock who work in Frisco, but can't afford to purchase homes there. Right now, they're buying homes in the San Joaquin Valley by the bucketfuls and staying in crappy little apartments/hotels in the Bay Area during the work week.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 05, 2016 11:38 AM (j4wsR)

388 Holy $h!t! Joe Biden is still alive! Who knew?

Posted by: hadoop at January 05, 2016 11:38 AM (2X7pN)

389 President Princess will be late to his own damned funeral. Anyhow, I refuse to watch. Saw Gabby Gifford's spouse on Fox this morning running his pie-hole.

That was enough.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 05, 2016 11:38 AM (FsuaD)

390 The fuck tard is pulling the sympathy card and lying his ass off...makes me want to puke

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 05, 2016 11:39 AM (gf8BH)

391 Mixed emotion: I was pretty sure I'd missed Jane's holiday operetta. Sounds like a hell of a thing to look forward to, but hey, football's over, entertainment's scarce.

Proud to announce I only gained vacation weight at the same rate Vic did, half a pound a day. Unfortunately, I was On The Beach for over two weeks, so...

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 05, 2016 11:39 AM (xq1UY)

392 390
The fuck tard is pulling the sympathy card and lying his ass off...makes me want to puke

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 05, 2016 11:39 AM (gf8BH)


*shoves some bourbon balls through USB port*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 05, 2016 11:40 AM (FsuaD)

393 He such a preening narcissist. I think he believes everyone just hangs on his stupid jokes and lies.

Posted by: Jackstraw at January 05, 2016 11:40 AM (/tuJf)

394 He's doing standup! Hoping some of the funny rubbed off of Seinfeld

Posted by: hadoop at January 05, 2016 11:41 AM (2X7pN)

395 San Bernardino was the result of lack of gun laws. Also the attack on Gabby Gifford.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 05, 2016 11:41 AM (1BQGO)

396 Is that the press clapping and woo-hooing the prezzy? WTF
Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 11:37 AM (NOIQH)


Glad you watch these things so I don't have to!

Millennials are fast moving, and high-speed rail provides a transportation infrastructure to support that.

You know what moves fast? A damn airplane.

Posted by: Lea at January 05, 2016 11:41 AM (lIU4e)

397 366,

If they limit it to twice the capacity of the gun then that is a reason to get more guns, right?

I'll take a bunch of Saturday night specials in the same caliber as my good pistol along with a few thousand rounds.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 05, 2016 11:41 AM (PCof0)

398 San Bernardino was the result of lack of gun laws. Also the attack on Gabby Gifford.

LOLWUT?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 05, 2016 11:41 AM (kff5f)

399
Millennials are fast moving, and high-speed rail provides a transportation infrastructure to support that.

They played a lot of Sim City as youths and a standard "solution" to Sim City's denizens complaints was "BUILD MOAR RAILS"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2016 11:41 AM (BK3ZS)

400 394 He's doing standup! Hoping some of the funny rubbed off of Seinfeld
Posted by: hadoop at January 05, 2016 11:41 AM (2X7pN)

You just know he believes he's funnier than Seinfeld or any other comic for that matter.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 05, 2016 11:42 AM (kpqmD)

401 Here it comes: This doesn't happen in other advanced countries. Only here.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 05, 2016 11:42 AM (1BQGO)

402 Here it comes: This doesn't happen in other advanced countries. Only here.

So there you have it: France is not an advanced country.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 05, 2016 11:42 AM (kff5f)

403 I don't know how you guys can listen to the f*ckwit. I've had a dull rage headache since Christmas day. Any more, and I'd have a full-on stroke.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 05, 2016 11:43 AM (FsuaD)

404 but as least Solomon (who was a king but not running for office) learned that a life without God but everything else is simply vanity, and he at least had great wisdom. Hillary not so much.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Today is the anniversary of the birth of Umberto Eco.

"Concern with pleasing humans causes the loss of all spiritual growth." - Eco (Baudolino, Ch. 39)


Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 05, 2016 11:43 AM (n22zQ)

405 Yes, there it was! "Not in other advanced countries."

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 05, 2016 11:43 AM (1BQGO)

406 We should ban muslim immigrants. If it saves one life....

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 11:43 AM (zOTsN)

407 He is so disappointed in us.

Posted by: redenzo at January 05, 2016 11:44 AM (WCnJW)

408 Not in other advanced countries

DRINK!

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 05, 2016 11:44 AM (ZQfW9)

409 For anybody in the "elections don't matter" crowd from '08 and '12, I hope you're enjoying this.

Posted by: AD at January 05, 2016 11:44 AM (QWY55)

410 >>So there you have it: France is not an advanced country

Well, the people who did it weren't advanced, but we're supposed to see that as the wonderful power of diversity or some such....

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 11:44 AM (NOIQH)

411 I don't know how you guys can listen to the f*ckwit. I've had a dull rage headache since Christmas day. Any more, and I'd have a full-on stroke.
Posted by: Jane
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I DO NOT listen. The guy pops up on the news, or otherwise, I mute or change channels.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 05, 2016 11:44 AM (n22zQ)

412 I wonder if he's high again?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 05, 2016 11:44 AM (FsuaD)

413 "Concern with pleasing humans causes the loss of all spiritual growth." - Eco (Baudolino, Ch. 39)

"But is frequently necessary to keep from starving to death." - Me

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 05, 2016 11:44 AM (kpqmD)

414 Good people? Who would they be, zippy?

Posted by: hadoop at January 05, 2016 11:44 AM (2X7pN)

415 Oh OK, This guy is all about bringing people together. All righty.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 05, 2016 11:45 AM (egOGm)

416 Watching on CNBC with the Dow trending in red alongside of his image.

Posted by: redenzo at January 05, 2016 11:45 AM (WCnJW)

417 if only the people at the Christmas party in san bernardino had a gun

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 11:45 AM (zOTsN)

418 My probably redundant/uninformed thoughts about Barky's EO: "Engaged in the sale of firearms" is legally defined as deriving the majority of your income from said activity, no? So if it's a family transfer, or small time collector sale, it would not require a FFL, correct? I heard that this EO was supposed to target online re sellers who sell w/o an FFL. Typically, online sales are shipped to an FFL Holder, shop or individual to background check and deliver. Assuming the above is true, (big assumption), what, exactly has Obama changed, other than perception?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2016 11:45 AM (5buP8)

419 Barry is taking action to prevent the next mass shooting. Oh really? As long as it doesn't involve looking at members of the religion of peace I'm sure.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2016 11:46 AM (493sH)

420 38 Breaking: Sally Kohn praises Neil Armstrong for making it home alive from Apollo 13.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 09:13 AM (659DL)

Sorry, that was a typo. I meant to praise Neil DeGrasse Tyson for landing on the moon with Apollo 13

Posted by: Sally Kohn at January 05, 2016 11:46 AM (dOZ8W)

421
Ha! This is either an autocucumber typo or brilliant humor, I'm not sure which.

I had to fight autocucumber to get that bon mot out there, so "brilliant humor" it is!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2016 11:46 AM (BK3ZS)

422 Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2016 11:45 AM (5buP

Gotten people used to the idea that he can sign a paper and change laws.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 05, 2016 11:47 AM (GDulk)

423 Kohn, I'm LAUGHING at the "superior intellect"

Posted by: James T Kirk at January 05, 2016 11:47 AM (dOZ8W)

424 The guy pops up on the news, or otherwise, I mute or change channels.

Yep. It's almost as meaningless as listening to someone quote a Clinton "strategy" for something.

BETTER HEATH CARE:

1. Better doctors
2. Better hospitals
3. Better drugs
4. Better information
5. Better preventive care

VOILA!!! It's a PLAN!!!!

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 05, 2016 11:47 AM (659DL)

425 If only some press whore had the balls to ask about Fast and Furious.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 05, 2016 11:48 AM (FsuaD)

426 Assuming the above is true, (big assumption), what, exactly has Obama changed, other than perception?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 05, 2016 11:45 AM (5buP




The only thing that dipshit cares about is optics.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 05, 2016 11:48 AM (GUBah)

427 So yes, there is a fundamental transformation, it's just one that should make all establishmentarians (especially Democrats, the loud-and-proud Party of Government) very nervous.

Obama instituted the political equivalent of total war. He expected it would cement permanent Leftocrat dominance.

He didn't anticipate someone else adopting the same techniques to counter them.

Honestly, I don't think either the GOP or the "conservative" establishment are ready to do battle in this brave new world.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 05, 2016 11:48 AM (9krrF)

428 419 Barry is taking action to prevent the next mass shooting. Oh really? As long as it doesn't involve looking at members of the religion of peace I'm sure

So, was He alone or did he surround Himself with "victims"?

Posted by: donna at January 05, 2016 11:49 AM (/dSsq)

429 393 He such a preening narcissist. I think he believes everyone just hangs on his stupid jokes and lies.

Posted by: Jackstraw at January 05, 2016 11:40 AM (/tuJf)


Well, the MSM certainly does, so I'll not knock him for assuming that.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 05, 2016 11:49 AM (OBp0J)

430 Where does Obama keep getting this "majority of gun owners" support more gun control? Does he actually believe that? If it were true, we would undoubtedly already have more gun control.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 05, 2016 11:49 AM (1BQGO)

431 Can I just I am sick of Obama and others using citizen props at speeches.

Why do you need people standing behind you as you speak?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 11:49 AM (NOIQH)

432 Is this a press conference or a clown show?

Oh, wait.

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at January 05, 2016 11:49 AM (uiVGU)

433 Good Lord, what a lying POS.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 05, 2016 11:49 AM (GUBah)

434 Jug Ears is sticking his nose further under the gun ban tent flap.

Posted by: Hank at January 05, 2016 11:49 AM (AqfcR)

435 Even as he runs his mouth, gun and ammo sales are surging. So there's that.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 05, 2016 11:49 AM (FsuaD)

436 Barry - We need some constraints on freedom to protect people.

This prick should have been impeached years ago

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2016 11:49 AM (493sH)

437
When will he assert that Muzzies contributed much to the rich tapestry of our nation's history from its very beginning?

He's not wrong, since Arab slavers were the suppliers and enablers for the steady stream of Africans sold into slavery here. But he wouldn't admit to that, would he?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2016 11:50 AM (BK3ZS)

438 so Congress

what are you going to do

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 11:50 AM (zOTsN)

439 425 If only some press whore had the balls to ask about Fast and Furious.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 05, 2016 11:48 AM (FsuaD)


Fixed.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 05, 2016 11:51 AM (OBp0J)

440 Barry - We need some constraints on freedom to protect people.

No Barry, We need to close Our borders and monitor the Mosques....

Posted by: donna at January 05, 2016 11:51 AM (/dSsq)

441 "Work together in good faith."


Suuuureee...as if this commie fuck has ever done anything in good faith.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 05, 2016 11:51 AM (GUBah)

442 >>Does he actually believe that?

Of course not, he just makes stuff up as he goes along. It's his MO, like all the lies he was telling to sell Obamacare. He thinks he's such a persuasive speaker we'll believe anything he says, i.e. he lies because he doesn't respect us to know the difference.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 11:51 AM (NOIQH)

Posted by: Country Singer at January 05, 2016 11:51 AM (GUBah)

444 436
Barry - We need some constraints on freedom to protect people.




I'm not watching. Did he actually say that?????!!??

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 05, 2016 11:51 AM (FsuaD)

445 dammit.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 05, 2016 11:51 AM (GUBah)

446 430 Where does Obama keep getting this "majority of gun owners" support more gun control? Does he actually believe that? If it were true, we would undoubtedly already have more gun control.
Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 05, 2016 11:49 AM (1BQGO)

It's that damn NRA don't you know. If he could just have all its members kneel in front of a ditch and shoot each one in the head, he could then enact common sense gun control laws.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 05, 2016 11:51 AM (kpqmD)

447 we are all slanted now

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 11:51 AM (zOTsN)

448 So sorry to have insulted clown shows. OTOH, I did make it thru about sixty seconds...

Think I'll have a drink.

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at January 05, 2016 11:52 AM (sdPF/)

449 Oh, wasn't me! Whew!

Posted by: Country Singer at January 05, 2016 11:52 AM (GUBah)

450 It's lunch time and the barrel's hungry.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 05, 2016 11:52 AM (FsuaD)

451 OregonMuse, come hither.

Posted by: The barrel at January 05, 2016 11:52 AM (326rv)

452 OregonMuse to Teh Barrel

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 05, 2016 11:52 AM (ZQfW9)

453 the Muse is loose!

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 11:52 AM (zOTsN)

454
431 Why do you need people standing behind you as you speak?
Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 11:49 AM (NOIQH)


Because his farts smell like rose water and to catch even the tiniest whiff of them cures all disease?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2016 11:53 AM (BK3ZS)

455 We tried to stop an act of evil twice, in 2008 and 2012, but that bastard got elected anyway.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 05, 2016 11:53 AM (GUBah)

456 If you like your gun, you can keep your gun.

Posted by: Mainah at January 05, 2016 11:53 AM (659DL)

457 OK, with the clapping I assume that he invited activists to this speech so that it is more like a gun control rally than press conference. Fa-bu-lous!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 11:53 AM (NOIQH)

458 I'm so glad I'm able to go behind the scenes and fix my own blown closing tags. I've dodged many trips to The Barrel.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 05, 2016 11:53 AM (OBp0J)

459 nood

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 05, 2016 11:54 AM (ZQfW9)

460 Well, I for one can hardly wait for Thursdays "town Hall" about guns with Anderson Cooper!

Posted by: donna at January 05, 2016 11:54 AM (/dSsq)

461 Barry - We need some constraints on freedom to protect people.


I'm not watching. Did he actually say that?????!!??


Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 05, 2016 11:51 AM (FsuaD)



That was the quote on the screen. He also said, it's not a plot to take ALL guns

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2016 11:54 AM (493sH)

462

were there lab coats? did the people behind him wear lab coats?

Posted by: ThunderB at January 05, 2016 11:54 AM (zOTsN)

463 He rejects that doing something meaningless is better than doing nothing at all! Brilliant!

Brain seatbelts!

Posted by: hadoop at January 05, 2016 11:54 AM (2X7pN)

464 Really? REALLY????

Did this asshole just totally misconstrue Reagan?

Posted by: Country Singer at January 05, 2016 11:54 AM (GUBah)

465 "How did we get here?"

Easy. There is no operation because conservatives don't trust you or the Dems and know any reasonable proposal is just a first step to something far worse. Is that so hard?

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 05, 2016 11:54 AM (1BQGO)

466 Ha! Not this time!

Guilty as hell and free as a bird! Ha ha!

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 05, 2016 11:54 AM (OBp0J)

467 Virtual brainbelts for those who don't think progressively enough.

Posted by: hadoop at January 05, 2016 11:55 AM (2X7pN)

468 Ahhhh.... interesting post over at Breitbart...

Seems that the Social Security Admin is going to start a gun registration database.

They are now tasked with ensuring that Seniors who are mentally incompetent, do not have, nor can buy, guns.

In order to do that they will need Doctors doing Medicare to ask patients about their guns....

This will create MILLIONS of law breakers....

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 05, 2016 11:55 AM (f7rv6)

469 ace is awake.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 05, 2016 11:56 AM (FsuaD)

470
431 Why do you need people standing behind you as you speak?
Posted by: Lizzy at January 05, 2016 11:49 AM (NOIQH)


What I cannot comprehend is why any human being with a shred of self respect and dignity would consent to be a "stand behind me" prop for ANY politician of ANY persuasion.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 05, 2016 11:57 AM (BK3ZS)

471 That SOB was on time wasn't he.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 05, 2016 11:57 AM (fWAjv)

472 403 I don't know how you guys can listen to the f*ckwit. I've had a dull rage headache since Christmas day. Any more, and I'd have a full-on stroke.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 05, 2016 11:43 AM (FsuaD)

I don't listen to him and I don't refer to him by name. Damnatio Memoriae, if he wasn't such an amazing case study.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 05, 2016 11:58 AM (xuouz)

473 Common sense? You have none, zipster!

Posted by: hadoop at January 05, 2016 11:58 AM (2X7pN)

474 On the bright side, if Barry Obama is the smartest man in the executive branch, they won't know a derringer from a grenade launcher.

Posted by: Fritz at January 05, 2016 11:59 AM (UzPAd)

475 >>>Millennials are fast moving, and high-speed rail provides a transportation infrastructure to support that.

You know what moves fast? A damn airplane.

Posted by: Lea at January 05, 2016 11:41 AM (lIU4e)


But you have to add hours to your schedule and submit to groping and theft in order to fly.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 05, 2016 12:00 PM (zc3Db)

476 It wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: Sally Kohn at January 05, 2016 12:05 PM (bpn7O)

477 What do you think the odds are that the EPA will be prosecuted under the mandatory minimum five year sentence terrorist act for the Gold King Mine snafu, just like those crazy ranchers in Orygun.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at January 05, 2016 12:07 PM (4KoRb)

478 Amit Gupta is correct in his article in the Federalist that there will be no coalition to fightt ISIS on the ground and to occupy the places that would need to be occupied for the 50 years or 3 generations it would take to turn them into normal, civilized countries.


Where Gupta is wrong, however is what options are available to the United States. We can stop worrying about collateral damage and just kill all the bad guys. As for the people living in ISIS controlled areas who get killed because they are in the wrong place at the wrong time, well, they were living in an ISIS controlled area.


To make that sort of mass casualties politically acceptable, it would be essential to minimize the number of news cycles that would report on it. You do that in two ways. You do the killing in one busy day before the news media can fly their celebrity reporters to the scene and you make sure you have another story to push the war out oc the news cycles.

Posted by: obnoxious ahole at January 05, 2016 12:20 PM (MpvuV)

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