Food Thread: Animal Rights And Hangover Remedies [CBD]

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Animal RightsTM is a topic sure to inflame the SJWs and assorted other progressives. The vitriol and violence heaped on biomedical researchers who use animals is often unbelievable. The chilling effect of the threat of violence (where else have we seen that?) on important, lifesaving research is incalculable. And the other half of the debate -- animals used for food or food production -- is just as contentious.

I doubt I am in the minority when I say that I want very much for the animals used in biomedical research to be treated with the respect that life deserves, that their pain is minimized whenever possible, and that the studies themselves are designed with some sense of the importance of preserving some dignity in the lives and deaths of the animals used. And the same goes for food production. Of course I want the animals I eat to be treated as well as possible, but I most certainly do not want a single human to starve because of some pompous esthetic that only happy animals can be used for food.

And I categorically reject the notion that the use of animals in research is an inherent wrong. Human life is more important than animal life. We are so radically different than animals (well, except for Red Sox fans) in so many ways that any equivalence depends on tortured logical fallacies and equally tortured interpretations of scientific experiments. That Koko can imitate sign language gestures and may be able to use them appropriately sometimes is a tribute to the intelligence and perseverance of its trainers. But language is more than communication of rote learning. When Koko can communicate a bedtime story to its offspring that isn't mere mimicry, get back to me.

My physical anthropology professor spoke of tool use among animals, specifically primates. he projected a photo of a chimp using a stick to probe a termite mound.

His comment? "This isn't tool use."

The next slide was of the space shuttle.

His comment? "THIS is tool use."

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From commenter "Top.Man" comes an exposition on that which plagues the amateur drinker. Professionals like most of us around here know exactly when to stop....right?

Hair of the Dog: The Magnificent Bastards

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Hangovers are a fact of Moron life, if you're doing it right. In a nutshell, you feel bad because your body is trying to get rid of the alcohol still in your system and you happen to be awake while that happens. People have been trying to find cures since day 1, some of which help, most of which don't.

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Joe Scialom may have gotten it right. Joe was THE bartender (and much more) at the Long Bar at Shepheard's Hotel in Cairo in 1940, a legendary hotel which also served as the unofficial British Eighth Army HQ during the desert campaigns. The Germans had cut the supply lines to Cairo and the bar ran out of the good stuff, which meant they had to use not-so-good stuff, which meant hangovers for the officers. Joe came up with the following cure:

Suffering Bastard

1 oz. gin
1 oz. brandy
1/2 oz. Rose's lime juice cordial
2 dashes Angostura bitters
4 oz. chilled ginger beer

Shake all EXCEPT the ginger beer with ice cubes. Stir in the ginger beer. Pour into a tall glass, garnish with mint (spank your mint first to release the oils).

There may actually be something beneficial in this recipe, as some studies suggest that ginger is effective in reducing nausea.

Shepheard's was burned by mobs during the 1952 coup that deposed King Farouk. Joe was imprisoned, briefly, on suspicion of being a spy (he wasn't) and then released and exiled. His subsequent journey took him through most of Europe and to various places in the West Indies, ultimately landing at the Marco Polo Club in Manhattan in 1960 where he came up with these variations as alternative hangover cures. The amount of booze is (roughly) the same as in the Suffering Bastard, the differences are the addition of other spirits.

Dying Bastard

1/2 oz. gin
1/2 oz. brandy
1/2 oz. bourbon
1/2 oz. Rose's lime juice cordial
2 dashes Angostura bitters
4 oz. chilled ginger beer

Dead Bastard

1/2 oz. gin
1/2 oz. brandy
1/2 oz. bourbon
1/2 oz. light Puerto Rican rum (Cruzan or Coruba)
1/2 oz. Rose's lime juice cordial
2 dashes Angostura bitters
4 oz. chilled ginger beer

Same prep and garnish as above.

Hit Ace's Amazon link and order a copy of Jeff "Beachbum" Berry's Potions Of The Caribbean for more about Joe, the origin of the drink and much, much more. This is a must-have book for anyone interested in the history of craft cocktails.

Happy New Year!

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I love scones, but too often they are dry and crumbly and just not very good. This recipe is more of a cakey style, but it still rocks.

Blueberry Scones

• 2.5 cups unbleached flour
• 1.25 tablespoon baking powder
• 1.25 teaspoon salt
• 3.3 ounces sugar
• 1/4 pound unsalted butter cut into the smallest pieces you can manage.
• 1 cup buttermilk or cream (cream is better, but slightly more fattening)
• 1 egg
• 1 pint fresh blueberries (or currents or raspberries or....) dusted in flour and then frozen. (if using raspberries, cut them in half or thirds before dusting with flour and freezing)

Toss the blueberries with a bit of flour and then freeze them for a few hours. This will prevent them from breaking up when you mix them into the batter, and the end result will be whole berries distributed through the scones rather than blueberry mush in blue scones. If you use raspberries, cut them into smaller pieces before you dust them with flour and freeze them.

Preheat oven to 400 degrees F.

In a large bowl, thoroughly mix the flour, baking powder, salt and sugar. Add the butter pieces to the flour mixture, and using a pastry blender or your hands (stick them under cold water and then dry them carefully), break up the butter until it resembles sand or small crumbs (A food processor will do a great job).

In another bowl, whisk the cream and egg together, and then add to the flour mixture. Add the frozen blueberries and mix just to incorporate, do not overwork the dough.

This is messy, sticky dough. I have found that the best method for portioning is to use a large ice cream scoop. Drop the mixture onto an ungreased baking sheet, trying to keep them as tall as possible. This recipe will make eight large scones, but tailor the size to your preference.

Sprinkle granulated sugar on them for a nice color and added crispiness.

Bake for at least 25-30 minutes or so until tinged with brown. If you make smaller scones they will bake more quickly, so adjust the time accordingly.

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1 First?

Posted by: skip at January 03, 2016 03:55 PM (C1Suc)

2 I hate lamb. Bad aftertaste and just gamey as fuck.

Oh and there's this:

Saudi Arabia is severing ties with Iran after an attack on the Saudi
embassy in Tehran, Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir told reporters
Sunday.

That's the sound of a tire coming off.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 03, 2016 03:58 PM (4ErVI)

3 LAMB

Posted by: Clarney at January 03, 2016 03:59 PM (dgO4h)

4 I haven't had hangovers too often (I'm sorry; I'm a failure at part of the moron lifestyle) but when I think I've had too much to drink I usually just drink a quart of water or more and take aspirin the same evening and I don't feel too bad the next day.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 04:01 PM (M+RRn)

5 Well a two Fer day, I would like to bring up something we do.
Make you own vanilla, 1cup of vodka and 4 -6 vanilla beans and that's it for quality virtually unlimited, soak for a few weeks before using but the longer it sits afterwards the better. Each ingredient can be added as needed down the road.

Posted by: skip at January 03, 2016 04:01 PM (C1Suc)

6 I'm confused.

Are blueberry scones good for a hangover?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...now older and senile at January 03, 2016 04:03 PM (+1T7c)

7
Animals have the right to be delicious when grilled.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 03, 2016 04:04 PM (o98Jz)

8 My condolences to NGU

Sorry about the jets

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 03, 2016 04:04 PM (voOPb)

9 Vitamin B12 is good for post hangover headaches, as it replaces a neurotransmitter that the lack of which, causes vasodilation (contraction) of blood vessels (especially in the brain) that cause headaches.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...now older and senile at January 03, 2016 04:05 PM (+1T7c)

10 Being subject to sinus migraines, I have a morbid fear of hangovers and make it a point to never earn one.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 03, 2016 04:05 PM (GDulk)

11 Are blueberry scones good for a hangover?

LOL. They're good for everything-as long as you're affected by celiac disease-and then you could probably make them with gluten free flour.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 04:06 PM (M+RRn)

12 An animals only "right" is to be delicious, when properly prepared...

Posted by: macleod at January 03, 2016 04:06 PM (Qf5bp)

13 Question, can you freeze precooked bacon for crumbles? Not that we usually leave extra bacon but for things like salads or baked potatoesI might be willing to spare a tad bit.

Posted by: FCF at January 03, 2016 04:06 PM (kejii)

14 I spanked my mint & the bint in the picture,,,I'm cured just like the lil lamb chops for lunch...wouldn't pull the wool over your eyes ..would eye!!

Posted by: saf at January 03, 2016 04:08 PM (qKiBT)

15 Most animal research is well thought out , done well, and with as much minimal pain to the animal as possible. However...some is just stupid, cruel, and should face banning.

Such as the eye tests where substances that any thinking human being knows is irritating is sprayed into captive rabbits eyes to see if they will swell shut.

That kind of testing is indefensible. And not used as much as in the past.

I remember in college having to deliver papers to one of profs who was working in the animal research lab. I walked into a room where they kept the rats. Thousands of them lining the walls of the room in cages. It was something to see....

Posted by: Jen the original at January 03, 2016 04:10 PM (9t8XZ)

16 One of my favorite follows at Twitter is a rancher who regularly takes on the radical Vegans and animal welfare nuts. And, she takes some of the most stunning photos I've ever seen.

https://twitter.com/JLazySAngus

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 03, 2016 04:10 PM (8PbKi)

17 Crap. I'm wore out. I was supposed to just take down Christmas decorations for the neighbor lady (20 minutes?), but that turned into 4 hours of helping clean out her garage. Didn't make a dent...

What's for dinner? And don't say lamb, because I have only had it once where I actually liked it in my 50 years.

Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 04:12 PM (gQfxF)

18 re: Animal rights.

There is a quali fram in NJ and several years ago eco terrorists broke in an night and let the birds loose. They the morons (not in a good way!) posted a manifesto saying something like, "We wanted our friends to be free! free!" My response (not to them but just a general comment) was, "How touching! Now these birds who don't know how to live out in the wild will either starve to death, be killed and eaten by foxes, coyotes, cats, birds of prey or squashed on the roads. Thanks for saving them from a humane end so they can have a possibly bloodier end.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 04:12 PM (M+RRn)

19 What's for dinner? And don't say lamb, because I have only had it once where I actually liked it in my 50 years.

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Try it Greek-style, in tomato sauce

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 03, 2016 04:12 PM (8PbKi)

20 A roomie swore by seltzer water with 2 tablespoons of honey and 2 Excedrin.

Once I'm up and about, I usually have eggs, toast, and a mildly alcoholic Bloody Mary.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 03, 2016 04:13 PM (jR7Wy)

21 Who has leftover bacon???
Heathen.

Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 04:13 PM (gQfxF)

22 I do not get hangovers. I hear that is a sign that you drink too much too often and your body has adapted to it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at January 03, 2016 04:13 PM (t2KH5)

23 That was supposed to be "quail farm" but by now you have all figured out my egregiously poor typing. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 04:13 PM (M+RRn)

24 PETA

People eating tasty animals

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at January 03, 2016 04:14 PM (voOPb)

25 Don't think leftover bacon has ever crossed my path

Posted by: skip at January 03, 2016 04:15 PM (C1Suc)

26 >>>vasodilation (contraction) of blood vessels

Maybe *vasoconstriction* (contraction) of blood vessels?

Posted by: m at January 03, 2016 04:15 PM (d4uu4)

27 For supper I'm having the last of the leftover black-eyed peas and cornbread.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 03, 2016 04:15 PM (jR7Wy)

28 Posted by: FCF at January 03, 2016 04:06 PM (kejii)

I don't see why not.

I would pack the crumbles in a Ziploc bag and evacuate as much air as possible. I'll bet they freeze really well.

Although the entire premise is ridiculous. As we all know...there is no such thing as leftover bacon. It's like unicorns.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2016 04:16 PM (Zu3d9)

29 > spank the mint

Is THAT what the kids ...

Posted by: speedster1 at January 03, 2016 04:17 PM (vUcdz)

30 Posted by: m at January 03, 2016 04:15 PM (d4uu4)

Or vasodilation (expansion) of blood vessels, which is also linked to migraines.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2016 04:18 PM (Zu3d9)

31 @24
You know that PeTA is headquartered right here in my hometown, right? 6 or 7 miles away.
Hate is a word I try to use very sparingly, but I hate them with a passion. Not necessarily the dumb kids that have good intentions, but certainly the corporate bigwigs & the whole thought process behind the killing machine that is their ideology.

Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 04:18 PM (gQfxF)

32 LAMB


found a new recipe for lamb I'm going to try

Gascony Roast Leg of Lamb with Anchovies and Garlic
Gigot d'agneau en Gasconnade, avec de l'Ail et des Anchois

Instead of just making slits and stuffing the lamb with garlic slivers, the recipe continues to make slits for stuffing anchovies in oil. (Then salt and pepper).

Once the potatoes, carrots, onions, garlic and thyme are roasted under the rack holding the lamb, deglaze the pan with 2 cups dry red wine (whisked with flour), they mash any reserved anchovies into the pan, simmer a few, and serve on the side with the platter of sliced lamb and veggies.

The recipe uses a bone-in leg of lamb. I only have a deboned one at the moment, but may try it with that one, as I have the anchovies in the house.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 03, 2016 04:18 PM (qCMvj)

33
If you use currents in your scones you'll get a real shock.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 03, 2016 04:19 PM (RcpcZ)

34 Hey CBD:

Would this be an appropriate time to post my mini-review of the sous vide thingie?

Posted by: speedster1 at January 03, 2016 04:19 PM (vUcdz)

35

I thought this was funny, because... SCIENCE!

How To Prevent Hangovers (With Science)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ixWfo69ONA

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 03, 2016 04:19 PM (qCMvj)

36 Niedermeyers dead horse, great photos at your friends'.

Another good source of photos and explanation of ranch life, is The Pioneer Woman. Ree Drummond, of the Food Network fame, actually does live on a working cattle ranch and takes great photos of the day to day work.
http://thepioneerwoman.com/?s=cattle

Posted by: Jen the original at January 03, 2016 04:19 PM (9t8XZ)

37 In my youth, I could drink like a fish and seldom had hangovers. The worst hangover was waking up still drunk.

For those few hangovers, I'd usually dump a greasy breakfast in my gut to settle the seas, so to speak.

Posted by: Butch at January 03, 2016 04:20 PM (hXu8T)

38 Posted by: speedster1 at January 03, 2016 04:19 PM (vUcdz)

It would...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2016 04:21 PM (Zu3d9)

39 If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat, tasty tasty meat.

Posted by: Henri at January 03, 2016 04:21 PM (rwI+c)

40 :-)

Coming up...

Posted by: speedster1 at January 03, 2016 04:21 PM (vUcdz)

41 spank the mint

"But first..."

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 03, 2016 04:22 PM (4ErVI)

42 he projected a photo of a chimp using a stick to probe a termite mound.
His comment?
"This isn't tool use."
The next slide was of the space shuttle.
His comment?
"THIS is tool use."


On the contrary, the space shuttle inventors stood on my shoulders.

Posted by: chimp freaking out at the 2001 monolith at January 03, 2016 04:23 PM (7EHW6)

43 I don't think animals should be mistreated, unless it makes them taste better.

Posted by: Flaccid Member at January 03, 2016 04:23 PM (5fSr7)

44
Best hangover cure is a couple of aspirin/advil and a couple of bears and rest.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 03, 2016 04:23 PM (iQIUe)

45 We are going out for dinner. It's our son's sixteenth birthday. I think I've deserve the congratulations; I've managed to survive three teen years without murdering him (J/K) pulling out all my hair or throwing myself off a ledge.

Those who have successfully go through the teen years without doing any of those things either, i salute you. If you've had more than one teen, I salute out even more!

And the son has the knack of picking out the most expensive thing on the menu. Someone said at church "So are you taking him to Taco Bell? Kids like fast food." I said it would be must cheaper if we could bring him there. The two fast food places he likes are "Five Guys burgers" or Chik-Fil-A and there's no CFA around here

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 04:23 PM (M+RRn)

46 So, a while back a moron recommended the Anova Sous Vide gizmo. I mentioned it to my wife, and she ended up buying it for me for my birthday (smart woman). I finally got around to using it for the first time last Sunday, cooking fresh salmon.

Oh. My. Goodness.

First, really easy to use (and clean). Second, amazing results. Just some salt (no pepper - youngest hates it) and a couple lemon slices. It helps that I already own (and use) a vacuum sealer, but I imagine one could improvise if necessary. The salmon came out perfectly cooked, moist, flavorful, just fantastic.

Downside: it was *not* inexpensive (although MUCH less than for dedicated machines). Wife bought the BlueTooth version, which was on sale, and the app (download from the iTunes store) worked very well. The site has a bunch of recipes and a community forum, but I just used one I found on the Net.

Highly recommend, and major kudos to the morn/ette what recommended it.

Posted by: speedster1 at January 03, 2016 04:24 PM (vUcdz)

47 Just had my bartend mix a Suffering Bastard, very refreshing.

Posted by: GT 5.0 at January 03, 2016 04:24 PM (LLCcN)

48 I watched my college peers spend the night worshipping at the porcelain altar, and nurse a giant hangover the next day. I decided I never really wanted to get that drunk. I shouldn't drink a lot with the meds I'm on now, anyway

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at January 03, 2016 04:24 PM (FQKBL)

49

My New Years Eve and Day were all finger foods (and a pie).

- Hummus (with crudites: broccoli, celery, carrots, and some baguette)
- Hot Artichoke/Spinach Dip (with crudites and some baguette)
- Tomato Basil Bruschetta
- Sweet Pepper Bruschetta
- Cheeses
- Fruit (we actually found some sweet grapes)
- Shrimp (wanted to make a Shrimp Mousse recipe but didn't have one key ingredient on hand, so a small simple Shrimp salad instead)
- Deviled Eggs (my favorite is a recipe with Champagne vinegar and capers)

Cherry Pie!

Fun night, and next day.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 03, 2016 04:24 PM (qCMvj)

50 For supper I'm having the last of the leftover black-eyed peas and cornbread.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 03, 2016 04:15 PM (jR7Wy)


I made cornbread this morning so I could eat it with left-over ham and beans this evening.

I also like cornbread for breakfast, too.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 03, 2016 04:25 PM (q2o38)

51 Animal testing stupid. Stop animal testing. Except for leopards.

Posted by: Koko at January 03, 2016 04:25 PM (u5gzz)

52 I once worked at an egg ranch. It's the kind of thing they would have used in a documentary against factory farms. Two hens to a very small cage. They gave them just enough calcium for the eggs to have hard shells. When you changed out the houses, it wasn't uncommon for you to break the chickens leg. Then they were shipped off to make soup.

What I really hate is the way pigs are treated on factory farms. Pigs are such interesting animals. If I could afford it, I'd eat pastured pigs.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 03, 2016 04:26 PM (Lqy/e)

53

We didn't get drunk either. Both my husband and I cannot handle drinking very well.

We only drank apertif's with the finger food. Lillet (rose and blanc - we switched off). I caught a slight buzz from the Lillet rose.

me <--- wimp

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 03, 2016 04:27 PM (qCMvj)

54 I bought a very nice looking purse for my sister in law for Christmas. Designed locally, etc.

We had a good laugh when reading the tag that said the purse was...Vegan.

I told my sister in law it was safe to eat. Probably was gluten free too.

Posted by: Jen the original at January 03, 2016 04:27 PM (9t8XZ)

55 I don't think animals should be mistreated, unless it makes them taste better.
Posted by: Flaccid Member at January 03, 2016 04:23 PM (5fSr7)


If you are making a battered cod joke . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at January 03, 2016 04:27 PM (q2o38)

56 Fenelon, my eldest daughter just turned 20 on the 21st, so I no longer have two teenage daughters. Youngest will be 17 in February. Seems like eons since the eldest turned 13.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at January 03, 2016 04:27 PM (FQKBL)

57 >>Try it Greek-style, in tomato sauce

I'm good with the Greek-style, but where does the tomato sauce come in?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 03, 2016 04:28 PM (c7vUv)

58 I haven't been drunk since sometime in the early90's when I stupidly mixed pink champagne and white champagne. Never again!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 04:29 PM (M+RRn)

59 I've lived thru 3 teenage daughters

Yikes

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at January 03, 2016 04:29 PM (voOPb)

60 46 (me)

morn -> moron (d'unh)

Stupid fat fingers.

Posted by: speedster1 at January 03, 2016 04:29 PM (vUcdz)

61 I meant a couple of beers - not bears tho a couple of bears will do in a pinch.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 03, 2016 04:29 PM (iQIUe)

62 I'm going to throw this request out there early in the thread - hoping I get plenty of responses (hint, hint, artisinal):

Its getting cold, finally. I am in the mood for chilli. Who has the best "recipe?"
I have most of the ingredients, I think.

(Like many, i never make stuff like chilli or sgetti sauce the same twice. It's always a little different)

Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 04:30 PM (gQfxF)

63 Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at January 03, 2016 04:27 PM (FQKBL)

Time seems to go so fast. doesn't it?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 04:30 PM (M+RRn)

64 >>Best hangover cure is a couple of aspirin/advil and a couple of bears and rest.

I'm intrigued.

Posted by: Leo at January 03, 2016 04:30 PM (c7vUv)

65 Jen, I've laughed when seeing my shampoo advertised as gluten free. Yay, I can just chug down a big bottle of shampoo. I'd be better off with a hangover.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at January 03, 2016 04:30 PM (FQKBL)

66 Saudi Arabia severs ties with Iran as protests rage

===============

War: SA vs. Iran -- who wins?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 03, 2016 04:31 PM (iQIUe)

67 Who has better military?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 03, 2016 04:31 PM (iQIUe)

68 Gascony Roast Leg of Lamb with Anchovies and Garlic

Gigot d'agneau en Gasconnade, avec de l'Ail et des Anchois...



Posted by: artisanal 'ette


Dang, that sounds really good. I typically like lamb best in Indian dishes, e.g. Saag Lamb (Lamb with spinach) or Lamb Madras, Lamb Vindaloo, etc.. I suppose the strong spices somewhat mask the gaminess.

Done right, there is nothing better on the face of this earth.

Posted by: pep at January 03, 2016 04:32 PM (LAe3v)

69 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at January 03, 2016 04:29 PM (voOPb)

Congratulations !There must be some special medal for that :^) I understand from friends who've had both girls and boys that girls are worse. Too much drama!,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 04:32 PM (M+RRn)

70 Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 04:30 PM (gQfxF)

Why don't you bring up something less contentious...like the Civil War?


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2016 04:32 PM (Zu3d9)

71 Iran doesnt give a shit about its people. As in the past, the will use 12 y/os to clear mines. But I dont think the Iranian people are that gullible and may not join up for their 72 raisins so willingly.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 03, 2016 04:33 PM (iQIUe)

72 Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at January 03, 2016 04:30 PM (FQKBL)

I've never heard of gluten free shampoo; That's hysterical!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 04:33 PM (M+RRn)

73 59
I've lived thru 3 teenage daughters


Beat you by one.

Posted by: pep at January 03, 2016 04:33 PM (LAe3v)

74 In my youth, I could drink like a fish and seldom had hangovers.

Then you probably also sported a mullet.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 03, 2016 04:34 PM (RU5ki)

75 72 FS

I think it's becoming like a religion.

Case in point:

I regularly see Kosher for Passover steel wool, dish soap, and aluminum foil.

WTH???

Posted by: speedster1 at January 03, 2016 04:35 PM (vUcdz)

76 I really like lamb but rarely eat it because lambs are so damn cute.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 03, 2016 04:35 PM (iQIUe)

77 Niedermeyers dead horse, great photos at your friends'.

Another good source of photos and explanation of ranch life, is The Pioneer Woman. Ree Drummond, of the Food Network fame, actually does live on a working cattle ranch and takes great photos of the day to day work.

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Not a friend, but I feel Blessed to have stumbled upon her site. She's fantastic.

As far as the Pioneer Woman, she has a line of lovely products at Walmart. On Thanksgiving morning I needed knives and Walmart was the only thing open, so no Henckels or Wusthof for me. I had never heard of her but picked up a set of her knives, and color me shocked at the quality.

I'm going to see how these work out before shopping for another set.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 03, 2016 04:35 PM (8PbKi)

78 Posted by: pep at January 03, 2016 04:33 PM (LAe3v)

And you're still standing upright? ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 04:35 PM (M+RRn)

79 War: SA vs. Iran -- who wins?


Bad muzzies vs. Not Quite As Bad muzzies. My money is on Russia.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 03, 2016 04:35 PM (RU5ki)

80 Hangover cure?


Some rest in a backless hospital gown with an IV drip if you're doing it right.

Posted by: RWC- Team BOHICA at January 03, 2016 04:36 PM (hlMPp)

81 Ha!
Longbow vs...

Oh - another question I've been waiting days to ask:
If I use a bag of dried beans to blind bake a pie crust, are those beans still good to use? Or are they now just pie weights?

CBD,
Seriously, thanks for this thread every week. I honestly look forward to it as it has become my favorite here. Your time and work is appreciated.

Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 04:36 PM (gQfxF)

82
I once worked at an egg ranch. It's the kind of thing they would have
used in a documentary against factory farms. Two hens to a very small
cage. They gave them just enough calcium for the eggs to have hard
shells. When you changed out the houses, it wasn't uncommon for you to
break the chickens leg. Then they were shipped off to make soup. [...]
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 03, 2016 04:26 PM (Lqy/e)

I dated a lady who worked as a lab tech purifying anti-bodies from hens' eggs. The owner would buy battery chickens about to be butchered and house them. Generally he doubled their living space and fed them up as well as he could since he had to inoculate them to produce anti-bodies, and the longer they did that the more they were worth. He couldn't let them run free since he had to be able to identify which chicken produced which eggs with which antibodies, but he pointed out that they are really stupid to begin with, they always lived in a space the size of a 5 gallon bucket, and they weren't really flexible in how they lived. He said he pretty much had to buy from one local company since the other company used a different watering system, and the chickens from that place would die of thirst because they couldn't figure out how to drink from his waterers.I prefer home raised eggs. But I realize there is a premium cost for that for a reason.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 03, 2016 04:36 PM (q2o38)

83 Congrats to pep

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at January 03, 2016 04:37 PM (voOPb)

84 I'm good with the Greek-style, but where does the tomato sauce come in?

***

Kokkinisto

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 03, 2016 04:37 PM (8PbKi)

85 If you think you hate lamb, try chops or racks grilled rare. I love lamb, but if it's over-cooked (except in a curry of corse) even I don't like it

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 03, 2016 04:37 PM (oT1NJ)

86 Hangover cure?

Simple: http://tinyurl.com/z3zmmoq

Posted by: speedster1 at January 03, 2016 04:38 PM (vUcdz)

87
I've heard oxygen is the best hangover cure but I've never tried it. Does any moron have experience?

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 03, 2016 04:38 PM (RcpcZ)

88 Thanks for the responses. I was looking at the price of the bacon ends when I had the thought, and who doesn't need more bacon in their diet?

Posted by: FCF at January 03, 2016 04:38 PM (kejii)

89 That delicious lamb is crying out to be slathered in mint jelly.

Posted by: Fritz at January 03, 2016 04:39 PM (BngQR)

90

Last night, we made the most fatty fat fat food...

Poutine

I had made a Pot Roast a bit ago, and reserved the broth that it cooked in and turned the broth into the the thick gravy used in poutines. I strained it to remove the chunks of onion, carrots and celery, then added a few flavors typical of some poutine gravies (Worcestershire sauce, balsamic vinegar, etc) and thickened it.

I had prepped the potatoes for fries, and soaked them in the fridge all day before drying and double frying to crisp.

We didn't have the typical cheese curds used in poutines, but we had that sticky mozzarella that comes in a ball form which I shredded and added just a touch of Monterey Jack and Cheddar for some flavor bursts.

Poutine
1 - fries
2 - layer of cheese
3 - steaming hot gravy to melt the cheese

oh my

First time I tried making my own, and it turned out amazing.

It's fun when you have leftover something and make it into a completely different type of food.

I had made a lot of pot roast the day I made it, and we shredded some of it one night for nachos, and another for burritos/soft tacos. Fabulous. You just have to tweak spices.

My husband said he probably gained 5-10 pounds while he was home. haha

Nah, we've been shoveling snow.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 03, 2016 04:39 PM (qCMvj)

91 Thanks for the recipes!
SJW's, Militant Vegetarians, and all of their ilk always worry about the "poor animals" but have no qualms about human beings being shredded all over the planet if it suits their needs and goals.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 03, 2016 04:39 PM (ej1L0)

92 And you're still standing upright? ;^)

I am. My sanity, on the other hand.....

Posted by: pep at January 03, 2016 04:40 PM (LAe3v)

93 Lamb Greek style....Jimmy R U sure it not HIGHLANDER STYLE...How the hell d'ya get the floss outta yer underpants...???

Posted by: saf at January 03, 2016 04:41 PM (qKiBT)

94 Saudis have technology but Saudis girly-men.

Short war, Saudis win. Long war, Iran win.

Posted by: Koko at January 03, 2016 04:41 PM (u5gzz)

95 Jen, I've laughed when seeing my shampoo advertised
as gluten free. Yay, I can just chug down a big bottle of shampoo. I'd
be better off with a hangover.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at January 03, 2016 04:30 PM (FQKBL)


I saw coffee advertised in the store the other day listed as "gluten free" I am not sure how that works.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 03, 2016 04:41 PM (q2o38)

96

War: SA vs. Iran -- who wins?

Iran has no air force of any value (and the Saudis have spent many coins on F-15s, F-16s and mercenary pilots), and they can't easily get major ground forces (tanks, large artillery) to the SA peninsula, so an air or ground war is unlikely in the near term.

Terrorism: SA vs. Iran -- who wins?

Iranian-backed operators took over the Kaaba in Mecca many years ago, and SA had to call in French paratroopers to handle the situation. I foresee another attempt, with large numbers of "pilgrims" (and servants, oil field workers, etc.) suddenly "rising up" in many places in SA, particularly Mecca, Jiddah, Medina Riyadh and the oil fields), swamping the Saudi police.

Yes, I'm looking real carefully at oil stocks.

Posted by: Arbalest at January 03, 2016 04:42 PM (FlRtG)

97 Dang, that sounds really good. I typically like lamb best in Indian dishes, e.g. Saag Lamb (Lamb with spinach) or Lamb Madras, Lamb Vindaloo, etc.. I suppose the strong spices somewhat mask the gaminess.

Done right, there is nothing better on the face of this earth.
Posted by: pep at January 03, 2016 04:32 PM (LAe3v)


I love Vindaloo too.

And, Moussaka.

And, leg of lamb, or any lamb roast with mint jelly (as someone said above). Usually I only do the garlic slivers and herbs, etc. I never saw the anchovy stuffed lamb roast. I can't wait to try it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 03, 2016 04:42 PM (qCMvj)

98 I got an electric smoker for my bday a couple of months back, and have used it to make sausage, chicken, brisket (x2) and ribs. It isn't as straightforward as the ads would have you believe, but still well worth it.

Posted by: pep at January 03, 2016 04:42 PM (LAe3v)

99
66 Saudi Arabia severs ties with Iran as protests rage

===============

War: SA vs. Iran -- who wins?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 03, 2016 04:31 PM (iQIUe)
67 Who has better military?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 03, 2016 04:31 PM (iQIUe)









SA has better equipment (state of the art American/European export versions) but they're Arabs. Arabs don't do maintenance, it's beneath them. So it's contracted to their Filipino/Indonesian guest workers. When the Iranian Scuds start dropping on the maintenance depots, they'll quit and leave for home unless the Saudis start throwing cash at them in combat bonuses.

Personally, I think the Saudis are fucked if Iran gets froggy and the US doesn't intervene.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 03, 2016 04:43 PM (o98Jz)

100

Lastly, while my husband was home, I made one other dish he really likes (and I love), Stuffed Cabbage.

I had some leftover rice (haha!), so I ran out and bought a cabbage head, and made the dish. Takes a long time, but so worth it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 03, 2016 04:44 PM (qCMvj)

101 Cicero @ 74 - A mullet is the one crime I haven't committed.

Posted by: Butch at January 03, 2016 04:44 PM (hXu8T)

102 Vegans = Orthorexia (the majority of them, I'd bet)

DHS, the MSM, etc. characterize domestic terrorists as white, Christian militia types, but IIRC, the Earth Liberation Front (ELF) and Animal Liberation Front(ALF) terrorists have caused far more damage and death/wounds then any militia.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 03, 2016 04:44 PM (NOIQH)

103 "Personally, I think the Saudis are fucked if Iran gets froggy and the US doesn't intervene."

US President very girly-man.

Posted by: Koko at January 03, 2016 04:44 PM (u5gzz)

104 Highly recommend, and major kudos to the morn/ette what recommended it.

Posted by: speedster1

Thanks for the review. I would like to try one and the dedicated ones are wayyyyy to expensive to try.

Posted by: Bruce at January 03, 2016 04:45 PM (8ikIW)

105 And, Moussaka.

I love that dish!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 04:45 PM (M+RRn)

106 AAh mint jelly makes the whole thing go down smooth A wee run with BAASIL takes the sheepish smell away.........

Posted by: saf at January 03, 2016 04:45 PM (qKiBT)

107 13
Question, can you freeze precooked bacon for crumbles? Not that we
usually leave extra bacon but for things like salads or baked potatoesI
might be willing to spare a tad bit.

Posted by: FCF at January 03, 2016 04:06 PM (kejii)


Yup. Or you can buy pre-crumbled bacon and keep it in the freezer.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 03, 2016 04:46 PM (EzgxV)

108 Personally, I think the Saudis are fucked if Iran gets froggy and the US doesn't intervene.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 03, 2016 04:43 PM (o98Jz)

I agree...the Sauds are fat, lazy bastards who swagger like pimps at a cakewalk. Only the US and possibly Israel can save their peacock asses.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 03, 2016 04:46 PM (ej1L0)

109 War: SA vs. Iran -- who wins?

Who does Iraq side with?

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 03, 2016 04:46 PM (rwI+c)

110 Artisanal "ette.

I think you should open a restaurant. That way we could have a huge moron meet up and be your customers!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 04:47 PM (M+RRn)

111 What brand/model of smoker did you get, pep? I'm thinking I should learn how to do that now that I'm in Pig Country.

My new kitchen gadget, which should arrive in a few days, is a Breville Fast-Slow Pro 6 qt pressure cooker/slow cooker. I had been thinking of getting a pressure cooker when I was living a high altitude, then shelved the idea when we moved to the low lands... but I'm doing a lot of one pot meals these days. This one was recommended by the Serious Eats person. It's a fully automated multi-cooker. You can sear in it, too, as well as pressure or slow cooking. I'll let you know how I like it.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at January 03, 2016 04:48 PM (t5zYU)

112 Saudis checked their pistacio inventory and then called Iran and said they needed to see other people.

Posted by: eman at January 03, 2016 04:48 PM (MQEz6)

113 Orthorexia-"Righteous eating"

I had never heard that term before, but it certainly sounds like a religion doesn't it"

http://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/orthorexia-nervosa

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 04:49 PM (M+RRn)

114 And, Moussaka.

I love that dish!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 04:45 PM (M+RRn)


Me too.

I have tried so many versions of this dish, and cannot settle on one recipe. They all taste good. I mostly stick with the Greek or Turkish versions.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 03, 2016 04:49 PM (qCMvj)

115 103 "Personally, I think the Saudis are fucked if Iran gets froggy and the US doesn't intervene."

Obama's response to Malheur will be much, much more decisive than anything over there.

Write it down.

Posted by: Irony at January 03, 2016 04:50 PM (qmMG2)

116 I can't bring myself to jump on board the sous vide train. Looks too complicated and a solution for a problem I rarely encounter. Maybe I'd be more inclined if I'd eaten a lot of dishes that would not work with traditional techniques, but I think I've only had a few sous vide dishes while dining out. IDK.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at January 03, 2016 04:50 PM (t5zYU)

117 >>>War: SA vs. Iran -- who wins?
<<<

Without western intervention, the persians will crush the arabs.

Posted by: Fritz at January 03, 2016 04:51 PM (BngQR)

118 It's a fully automated multi-cooker. You can sear in it, too, as well as pressure or slow cooking. I'll let you know how I like it.
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at January 03, 2016 04:48 PM (t5zYU)


I think I'm the only one in my family who doesn't have one. I like that you can sear in it too, like a nice dutch oven from stove top to oven.

It will be nice to hear your feedback once you've had a chance to use it a few times. thanks

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 03, 2016 04:51 PM (qCMvj)

119 I can't bring myself to jump on board the sous vide train. Looks too complicated and a solution for a problem I rarely encounter. Maybe I'd be more inclined if I'd eaten a lot of dishes that would not work with traditional techniques, but I think I've only had a few sous vide dishes while dining out. IDK.
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at January 03, 2016 04:50 PM (t5zYU)


I stay away from plastic as much as I can. That's the only reason I haven't tried it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 03, 2016 04:52 PM (qCMvj)

120 Our lefty nephew (Bernie! sticker on diesel VW) is an organic meat farmer. He and his wife see an animal like the one in the pic, and they envision it hanging on a hook.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at January 03, 2016 04:53 PM (U6f54)

121 Happy New Year, Fenelon!

Posted by: typo dynamofo at January 03, 2016 04:53 PM (/cTov)

122 A good sheep story? 'The Android's Dream' by John Scalzi. Makes you laugh out loud.

Posted by: Eromero at January 03, 2016 04:53 PM (b+df9)

123 Artisanal "ette.

I think you should open a restaurant. That way we could have a huge moron meet up and be your customers!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 04:47 PM (M+RRn)


too much work, lol

and I'm a moody cook (but thanks)

besides, I actually do work, haha, you wouldn't know it!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 03, 2016 04:54 PM (qCMvj)

124 What brand/model of smoker did you get, pep? I'm thinking I should learn how to do that now that I'm in Pig Country.


Here's the model I got, but it appears they're out at the moment. Also, mine is all black. I couldn't hold on to my man card if I got the red one.

Masterbuilt 20076414 Electric Smoker with Accessory Pack, 30", Red

Posted by: pep at January 03, 2016 04:55 PM (LAe3v)

125 Sous vide was originally done in canning jars.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 03, 2016 04:57 PM (q2o38)

126 No like lamb.

Posted by: eman at January 03, 2016 04:58 PM (MQEz6)

127 Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at January 03, 2016 04:48 PM (t5zYU)

Y-not I've had one for a few weeks, and it's amazing. Now, I haven't put it through all its paces yet, but the fact that it's totally automatic and releases pressure on its own is a new ballgame. My old electric PC/multi-cooker has been semi-retired to the farm.

Posted by: stace at January 03, 2016 04:58 PM (CoX6k)

128 Thanks, pep.

Dumb question: does it sit outside, inside, outside but covered...? (Is it weatherproof?)

How much smoke does it give off?

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at January 03, 2016 04:58 PM (t5zYU)

129 Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 04:36 PM (gQfxF)

Thank you very much....it is my pleasure!

And the beans question is a good one, which I cannot answer.

I guess some of the carbohydrate in the beans could break down in the high heat to simpler sugars, and maybe some of the oils could evaporate.

But those are just guesses.

Make a pot of beans and tell us!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2016 04:58 PM (Zu3d9)

130 >>Posted by: stace at January 03, 2016 04:58 PM

Cool! I'm excited about it.

A few years ago I nearly burned the house down with a (defective) multi-cooker/slow-cooker (but not pressure cooker). I'd gotten it b/c it had the sear option, which so few do. But after that bad experience, I'd given up on finding what I wanted until I learned about this.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at January 03, 2016 05:00 PM (t5zYU)

131 afternoon all,

my dad wanted to ranch cattle, so my mother indulged him. We started with four angus cows, and ended up with 150. Why 150 you ask? Because my dad was no kind a rancher. He was mid wife to every calf born on the ranch, named them all, raised not a few in the house because mama couldn't/wouldn't feed them, and had a bull that would run across the fields to get his head scratched. He loved those cows like they were his pets-which they were. But I dare any PETA scum to say they were ill-treated, or raised in a poor situation. They weren't. And most of the ranchers we knew were similarly careful with their herds. So I get kinda testy when these animal rightists jerks scream that animals are more deserving of rights that unborn children. Strangely, when you ask them if they are pro aborts when they scream about veganism, they tend to shut up. Or just resort to primal screams.


On a completely different note, for chili: onions, garlic, a bit of green pepper sauteed until tender in a mix of olive oil and butter. Brown ground beef in the vegetable mix, then add chili powder (3-4 tablespoons), 1 tsp each of garlic powder, onion powder, salt, pepper, 1/2 tsp each of cumin, oregano, cayenne pepper. Stir together, then add 8 oz of tomato sauce, 1/2 cup beef broth. Bring to a boil, reduce heat so that it simmers for 20-30 minutes. If you have some masa, mix 2 tablespoons with 1/4 cup warm water and stir in. Add drained pinto, kidney or black beans (or all three, I've done that a few times) stir, simmer for 5 more minutes, then serve with rice, corn chips, cheese and beer.

Enjoy

Posted by: Moki at January 03, 2016 05:01 PM (7q2ch)

132 I use gold dubloons to weigh down my pie crusts!

Posted by: Mr Mau Mau at January 03, 2016 05:02 PM (t5zYU)

133 Smokin' in PIG COUNTRY......hoe many "PATCHES" does OFLAMMA DECREE.....

Posted by: saf at January 03, 2016 05:02 PM (qKiBT)

134 Unfortunately, or fortunately I am now pretty well recovered from my hangover...took two days...ginger ale, crackers, advil and lots of sleep...I broke my rule of not doing shots...did two shots of some shot made with baileys and some flavored vodka....and had some bacardi and cokes...oh well,...live and learn...oh and I do like lamb chops! Happy New Year!

Posted by: KWDreaming at January 03, 2016 05:02 PM (Vb/ph)

135 62
I'm going to throw this request out there early in the thread - hoping I get plenty of responses (hint, hint, artisinal):



Its getting cold, finally. I am in the mood for chilli. Who has the best "recipe?"

I have most of the ingredients, I think.



(Like many, i never make stuff like chilli or sgetti sauce the same twice. It's always a little different)

Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 04:30 PM (gQfxF)


I don't really do "chili" per se, but I'll take ground beef, chopped onions, chopped bell peppers, and cook them in EVOO with powdered garlic and a blend of california, hot new mexico, and pasilla chili powder, along with cayenne pepper, powdered chili de arbol, and powdered paprika -- with a dash of chipotle if I'm feeling adventuresome. Cover a tortilla with it when cooked, top with cheese.....

Anyway, having a variety of available chili powders allows you to vary the flavor to suit your mood. Pasilla is very earthy and "comfort-food" like, to suit a cold evening; paprika is slightly sweet; the trio of HNM, cayenne, and chili de arbol give a little heat -- good if you're drinking beer.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 03, 2016 05:03 PM (EzgxV)

136 4 I haven't had hangovers too often (I'm sorry; I'm a failure at part of the moron lifestyle) but when I think I've had too much to drink I usually just drink a quart of water or more and take aspirin the same evening and I don't feel too bad the next day.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 04:01 PM (M+RRn)


I second the water recommendation. Back when I was in college I sometimes drank to excess (To Excess! *clink*) and ended up puking and/or hungover.

Since then I either learned my limits or developed a tolerance; probably a little of both. I can't remember the last time I got sick from drinking. Nowadays I drink a tall glass of water before going to bed and another one when I get up, and I usually don't feel too bad. Maybe take a couple of aspirin in the morning, but I don't usually have to do that.

Posted by: rickl at January 03, 2016 05:05 PM (sdi6R)

137

For my Cherry Pie, I used a pure pork lard for the crust.

I usually use butter, or a combo of butter and vegetable shortening. I'll never use the veg shortening again.

I can't explain how tasty and flaky it was. I knew the traditional lard was the way to go, but just never looked about for pure animal lard.

My husband actually commented on how good the pie crust was (without knowing I had made any changes to my typical pie crust recipe.) That's how different and good it was.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 03, 2016 05:06 PM (qCMvj)

138 I love lamb but husband does not. Penzeys has a spice called Tsardust Dreams that is very good on lamb.

I just did my favorite roasted chicken. You chop up fennel seed, add salt, pepper and red pepper flakes. Rub it on the chicken and roast in a fairly hot oven.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 03, 2016 05:07 PM (Lqy/e)

139 Greetings, Food Threaders!

Milady has a question for y'all.

It's one thing to have a recipe but not have the right implements to prepare it. But what about when you have an implement and you don't know what recipe it's for?

We have a cast iron pan (inherited) with seven indents, but we're not sure what it's for. Hard to web-search, but we thought it might be useful to horde-source. Clue, anyone?

http://bit.ly/what-is-this-pan

Posted by: mindful webworker - cook's helper at January 03, 2016 05:07 PM (ACs58)

140 Best scones in the world are at The Diamond Head Market and Grill just outside Waikiki on Monsarrat.

Posted by: muttering vikings fan at January 03, 2016 05:09 PM (8aOqE)

141 I cooked for Christmas Eve. So I'm set till Easter. A couple of birthdays in between (maybe we can go out) then it's Thanksgiving and I'm done. I try not to cook more than five times a year if I can help it.

Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at January 03, 2016 05:09 PM (dFi94)

142 I love lamb so much! I had some last month but it wasn't enough.

I'm making roast today though and the house smells awesome.

Posted by: Lea at January 03, 2016 05:10 PM (vmMMi)

143 We have a cast iron pan (inherited) with seven indents, but we're not sure what it's for. Hard to web-search, but we thought it might be useful to horde-source. Clue, anyone?

http://bit.ly/what-is-this-pan

Posted by: mindful webworker - cook's helper at January 03, 2016 05:07 PM (ACs5


I'd guess eggs. Does it fit easily into another cast iron pan?

Posted by: Snoodling Hero Emeritus at January 03, 2016 05:11 PM (k9qR4)

144 MWW, looks like a muffin pan. Possibly cornbread muffins

Posted by: weirdflunky at January 03, 2016 05:11 PM (02bBE)

145 War: SA vs. Iran -- who wins?



Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 03, 2016 04:31 PM (iQIUe)

Depends. Who grabs the oil fields first?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 03, 2016 05:12 PM (4ErVI)

146 I cooked for Christmas Eve. So I'm set till Easter. A couple of birthdays in between (maybe we can go out) then it's Thanksgiving and I'm done. I try not to cook more than five times a year if I can help it.
Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at January 03, 2016 05:09 PM (dFi94)


lol

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 03, 2016 05:12 PM (qCMvj)

147 Mindful webworker, that's an Ebleskiver pan. Used to make Danish pancakes!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at January 03, 2016 05:12 PM (+eR2D)

148 Wife says egg poacher maybe

Posted by: weirdflunky at January 03, 2016 05:12 PM (02bBE)

149 It's an ebelskiver filled pancake pan - see williams-sonoma website.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 03, 2016 05:12 PM (NOIQH)

150 "http://bit.ly/what-is-this-pan"


I'd say that's a cornbread pan.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2016 05:12 PM (YRM5Y)

151 Dumb question: does it sit outside, inside, outside but covered...? (Is it weatherproof?)



How much smoke does it give off?

Posted by: Y-not


Not dumb at all. I have a screened in porch, and have kept it there, covered with a plastic cover from the manufacturer, for the abnormally warm November and December we just had. I reckon I need to move it into the garage now so the temp extremes don't do anything untoward to it.

As to the smoke, it gives off quite a bit every time I charge it with wood chips. You certainly couldn't keep it inside, but in the garage with the door open would be fine.

The thing I like best is that you can turn it on, program it , and monitor the meat temperature using a remote from inside your house. I have no interest in monitoring a traditional smoker for a full day, so the ability to set it and more or less forget it is a big plus.

Posted by: pep at January 03, 2016 05:12 PM (LAe3v)

152 I think that's an Aebleskiver pan.

Posted by: Mr Mau Mau at January 03, 2016 05:13 PM (t5zYU)

153
Posted by: mindful webworker - cook's helper at January 03, 2016 05:07 PM (ACs5


Used to create Danish pancake balls.


What do I win!?

Posted by: RWC- Team BOHICA at January 03, 2016 05:13 PM (hlMPp)

154 "http://bit.ly/what-is-this-pan"

Pan for leopard balls.

Posted by: Koko at January 03, 2016 05:14 PM (u5gzz)

155 Ummmm, 12th place maybe

Posted by: RWC- Team BOHICA at January 03, 2016 05:14 PM (hlMPp)

156 We have a cast iron pan (inherited) with seven indents, but we're not sure what it's for. Hard to web-search, but we thought it might be useful to horde-source. Clue, anyone?

http://bit.ly/what-is-this-pan

Posted by: mindful webworker - cook's helper at January 03, 2016 05:07 PM (ACs5


looks like an egg poacher

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 03, 2016 05:14 PM (qCMvj)

157 Mr Mau Mau sock off.


Thanks, pep! You have me intrigued. Definitely something to explore!

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at January 03, 2016 05:14 PM (t5zYU)

158 We have a cast iron pan (inherited) with seven indents, but we're not sure what it's for. Hard to web-search, but we thought it might be useful to horde-source. Clue, anyone?

http://bit.ly/what-is-this-pan

Posted by: mindful webworker - cook's helper at January 03, 2016 05:07 PM (ACs5

looks like an egg poacher
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 03, 2016 05:14 PM (qCMvj)


my first thought was for Yorkshire Pudding

That is what I would use it for.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 03, 2016 05:15 PM (qCMvj)

159
139
Greetings, Food Threaders!



Milady has a question for y'all.



It's one thing to have a recipe but not have the right implements to
prepare it. But what about when you have an implement and you don't
know what recipe it's for?



We have a cast iron pan (inherited) with seven indents, but we're
not sure what it's for. Hard to web-search, but we thought it might be
useful to horde-source. Clue, anyone?



http://bit.ly/what-is-this-pan

Posted by: mindful webworker - cook's helper at January 03, 2016 05:07 PM (ACs5


Empenadas?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 03, 2016 05:15 PM (EzgxV)

160 Umm, now after image searching I want some Danish pancake balls.


Damn they look yummy.

Posted by: RWC- Team BOHICA at January 03, 2016 05:16 PM (hlMPp)

161 139-is it an ebelskiver pan? It's a filled pancake that is amazing-heat the pan on the stove until very hot. Make ebelskiver batter, and have a variety of fillings on hand-fruit preserves, nutella, or sausage if you feel a bit savory. Pour batter into indents, cook a few seconds, then add filling. cook a few more seconds, turn to cook the bottom, then done.

The nutella ebelskiver with a cup of good coffee is one of the best things this side of heaven.


Ebelskiver batter:
1 1/4 cup flour
1/2 tsp salt
2 1/2 tsp baking powder
2 tbsp granulated sugar
1 egg
1 cup milk
3 tbsp butter, melted and cooled.

filling: preserves/jam, nutella, cocktail sausages, cheese etc

mix dry ingredients together, mix wet ingredients together, then gradually stir into dry ingredients. Heat ebelskiver pan, then coat with oil or cooking spray. Add recommended amount of batter (usually 2-3 tablespoons) to each indent, then add filling of choice. Using a spoon or ebelskiver sticks, turn cakes so that both sides are cooked through (2-3 minutes total) Enjoy

Posted by: Moki at January 03, 2016 05:16 PM (7q2ch)

162 Apparently the Bucs' RB Lane had a gruesome injury. Sounds Theismann-esque. Poor guy.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at January 03, 2016 05:16 PM (t5zYU)

163 Mindful webworker, that's an Ebleskiver pan. Used to make Danish pancakes!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at January 03, 2016 05:12 PM (+eR2D)


Ha, wow. You sure know your ebelskiver technology!

Posted by: Snoodling Hero Emeritus at January 03, 2016 05:16 PM (k9qR4)

164 We have a cast iron pan (inherited) with seven
indents, but we're not sure what it's for. Hard to web-search, but we
thought it might be useful to horde-source. Clue, anyone?



http://bit.ly/what-is-this-pan

Posted by: mindful webworker - cook's helper at January 03, 2016 05:07 PM (ACs5
====================================================

How deep are the indentations? It looks like one I have to make Swedish pancakes (indentations are shallow)

Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at January 03, 2016 05:16 PM (dFi94)

165 I got one of those fancy, computerized, all-in-one pressure cookers for Christmas. So far we've done a whole chicken and used the rice cooker function. I'm looking forward to making chili and spaghetti sauce quickly, and making pot roast in 1 hour instead of 10 in the slow cooker.

Posted by: PabloD at January 03, 2016 05:17 PM (5CsS+)

166 popovers?

Posted by: muttering vikings fan at January 03, 2016 05:17 PM (8aOqE)

167 This is much better than usual. No food pictures. That keeps me from becoming ravenous at this time of the evening and overeating. Normally the food thread just knocks me off the diet tracks.

Posted by: goon at January 03, 2016 05:17 PM (gy5kE)

168 Aebleskiver Cast iron for 98.99 on Amazon

Posted by: RWC- Team BOHICA at January 03, 2016 05:17 PM (hlMPp)

169 We have a cast iron pan (inherited) with seven indents, but we're not sure what it's for. Hard to web-search, but we thought it might be useful to horde-source. Clue, anyone?

http://bit.ly/what-is-this-pan

Posted by: mindful webworker - cook's helper at January 03, 2016 05:07 PM (ACs5


oh, look

http://bit.ly/1PGlbCe

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 03, 2016 05:17 PM (qCMvj)

170 Grilled cheese and chicken soup for supper tonight. My go-to for when I'm sick. Again. Because I wasn't just sick a few weeks ago.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at January 03, 2016 05:17 PM (+eR2D)

171 It's a snowball maker for fat and lazy Danish kids!

Posted by: RWC- Team BOHICA at January 03, 2016 05:19 PM (hlMPp)

172 Mmmmm popovers. Made them on Christmas to go with our prime rib. Added gruyere and thyme...they were incredible.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at January 03, 2016 05:19 PM (+eR2D)

173 I mean, I remember laughing at the absurdly expensive ebelskiver turners that Billiams and Sunoco would sell you*, but I didn't recall what the pans looked like.

*imagine paying $20+ for chopsticks. yup.

Posted by: Snoodling Hero Emeritus at January 03, 2016 05:20 PM (k9qR4)

174 >>Deviled Eggs (my favorite is a recipe with Champagne vinegar and capers)

That sounds amazing!!!

Posted by: Lea at January 03, 2016 05:20 PM (vmMMi)

175 Chinese take out.

Beef on a stick cut up.

Chicken on a stick cut up

Steamed rice

Extra brown sauce.

Mix together.

'Cause F vegetables!

Posted by: RWC- Team BOHICA at January 03, 2016 05:20 PM (hlMPp)

176
*imagine paying $20+ for chopsticks. yup.

Posted by: Snoodling Hero Emeritus at January 03, 2016 05:20 PM (k9qR4)



Have you ever seen the Hater's Guide to Williams Sonoma catalog? Cracks me up every year.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at January 03, 2016 05:21 PM (+eR2D)

177 Koko, you're awfully mean to your Kitteh pals.

Leopards love the erf, too!

Posted by: fluffy at January 03, 2016 05:22 PM (AfsKp)

178 You know those little lollipop lamb chops?

At parties I will push old people and little kids out of the way to get to those. It's embarrassing.

Posted by: stace at January 03, 2016 05:22 PM (CoX6k)

179 Hangovers... back in my thirties I worked out a lot and did a lot of bicycle touring but I was a party animal, I regularly got well-deserved hard-earned hangovers, I went on a three-day bike tour, 60 miles a day, on the second night I was partying in a campground, someone was selling beer out of the trunk of their car, I drank many beers by the campfire plus I guzzled a nine-ounce flask of overproof peppermint snaps, I got so drunk I snuck off and passed out on the river bank before making it to my tent, the next morning, 6 AM, I was up, fresh as a daisy, and immediately started uphill pedalling over the Rockies great divide. The lesson? I think if you are very physically active and your metabolism is running on high you burn up the booze and recover too fast to have a hangover.

Posted by: yoptvoimat at January 03, 2016 05:22 PM (Q4sxC)

180 'Cause F vegetables!

Posted by: RWC- Team BOHICA


I will have my revenge, in this life or the next.

Posted by: Vegetables, not clogging up your colon at January 03, 2016 05:23 PM (LAe3v)

181 Saudi vs Iran -each have their minions and if I'm correct Iran has more Shia than Saudi's have Sunnis

Posted by: skip at January 03, 2016 05:24 PM (C1Suc)

182 But what does that have to do with food?
No boil lasagna tonight with a few special ingredients, excellent.

Posted by: skip at January 03, 2016 05:25 PM (C1Suc)

183 No food pictures.

Posted by: goon at January 03, 2016 05:17 PM (gy5kE)

Huh?

That is a food picture. It just requires a bit more prep.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 03, 2016 05:26 PM (Zu3d9)

184 I will have my revenge, in this life or the next.

Posted by: Vegetables, not clogging up your colon at January 03, 2016 05:23 PM (LAe3v)

Ahhh, I love ya buddy. Just not mixed with other foods, especially take-out.

Posted by: RWC- Team BOHICA at January 03, 2016 05:26 PM (hlMPp)

185 Sous vide is a simple process to me. But then I spent years developing color film. Time and temperature. Graphs. Read graph. Finished.

I have a son who has embraced that method of cooking. But he still backs it up with an industrial strength blow torch to adjust the final appearance of the protein into more commonly accepted fashion.

Posted by: free range jihadist at January 03, 2016 05:27 PM (fbovC)

186 Posted by: mindful webworker - cook's helper at January 03, 2016 05:07 PM (ACs5

Corn muffin pan.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at January 03, 2016 05:27 PM (tM4uk)

187 Dude... that's my hand you're eating.

Posted by: Shari Lewis at January 03, 2016 05:29 PM (7EHW6)

188 The lesson? I think if you are very physically active and your metabolism is running on high you burn up the booze and recover too fast to have a hangover.

Posted by: yoptvoimat at January 03, 2016 05:22 PM (Q4sxC)


I've been pretty physically active (used to be 200+ miles a week was about normal) and the only thing that ever helped with hangovers was drinking tons of water. The activity and metabolism thing sure helps, but it ain't magic.

Posted by: Snoodling Hero Emeritus at January 03, 2016 05:30 PM (k9qR4)

189 "It looks like one I have to make Swedish pancakes (indentations are shallow)"

Attached lid, no? Tons of them here.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2016 05:31 PM (YRM5Y)

190 Leave the Lamb , take the mint jelly.

Posted by: Max Clemenza Rockatansky at January 03, 2016 05:31 PM (MNgU2)

191 [ I]
Depends. Who grabs the oil fields first[/ I]

Problem is, IIRC,is that many (most?) of the Saudi wells are in the eastern part of the country. Which is Shia in practice, even if ethnically Arab. Strict Sunni consider Shia to be the next best thing to Kuffar and persecute them .... mmmm.. religiously (see the recent mass execution). Even if the Saudi hold on to the oil fields, they may have internal trouble with their Shia population.

Posted by: Rudy at January 03, 2016 05:33 PM (bTrKo)

192 My favorite hangover cure: from jazz guitarist Eddie Condon: "Take the juice of one quart of whiskey. . .

Posted by: don frese at January 03, 2016 05:33 PM (oQK1k)

193 "Corn muffin pan."


Zackly.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2016 05:34 PM (YRM5Y)

194 Make a pot of beans and tell us!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
----------------
I'm afraid to waste a ham hock, that's the real dilemma. Beans are cheap, but I don't want to waste them either!

Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 05:34 PM (gQfxF)

195 I don't like scones as I've seen them served by the Brits; I prefer the Utah mormon version, which is more closely related to the beignet rather than seafaring hardtack.

Unlike beignets, however, which are ssprinkled with powdered sugar (at least the Liousiana version), Utah scones are served with butter and honey. And like beignets, Utah scones need to be consumed immediately. Which they are, if I'm around.

Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at January 03, 2016 05:35 PM (wKcQA)

196 Deviled Eggs (my favorite is a recipe with Champagne vinegar and capers)

That sounds amazing!!!
Posted by: Lea at January 03, 2016 05:20 PM (vmMMi)


I think I found it in a Williams-Sonoma appetizer book. I couldn't find it online anywhere.

Here it is.

Deviled Eggs with Capers

12 Extra-large hard boiled eggs; cut in half, yolks scooped out
3 Tbl Mayonnaise
1 tsp whole grain mustard (I use the Maille's Old Style)
1 1/ 2 tsp Champagne vinegar
2 Tbl capers, rinsed
1 Tbl finely chopped fresh flat-leaf parsley (Italian)
1 anchovy fillet, soaked for 5 minutes in lukewarm water, drained, patted dry (optional)
Fine sea salt
Scant 1/ 8 tsp cayenne pepper to taste

Throw the yolks and the rest of the ingredients in a food processor, using 1/ 4 tsp salt if using the anchovy, otherwise use 1/ 2 tsp salt. Pipe or spoon into egg white half shells.

*I use the anchovy about half the time. I really like it without too. But, sometimes I'm in the mood for a fishy flavor. It's not overwhelming, because you soak it and dry it before using.



Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 03, 2016 05:35 PM (qCMvj)

197 And - no chilli recipes.
Y'all are no help this week.
(Well, there was cth - thanks, man)

Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 05:37 PM (gQfxF)

198 Just finished two baby backs on the Masterbuilt, done according to King Myron Mixon's recipe. Have not tried them yet, however the rib bark and aroma could feed you.

Posted by: Dregs at January 03, 2016 05:40 PM (VV4qd)

199 Irony. I slept in today due to drinking.

Here is what you do:

1) Don't pass out drunk
2) Stay up as late as you can
3) Drinks lots of water
4) Right before bed take 2-3 ibuprofen

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at January 03, 2016 05:40 PM (hVdx9)

200 Thanks, artisanal-ette!!!!

I love deviled eggs and I love capers. So. I will be making this.

Posted by: Lea at January 03, 2016 05:40 PM (vmMMi)

201 Um, @197 was just snark - reading it now, I don't think that was clear.

- back to Shirley's garage for a bit...

Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 05:42 PM (gQfxF)

202 Wow, folks, bucket-load of replies on the mystery cast-iron pan. Thanks.

No, not shallow indentations - realized the pic didn't show depth. No attached lid. No good for egg poaching, either. We'd thought of that, and some kind of bread things. As it turns out...

So, DangerGirl was first with Ebleskiver. Honorable mention to Moki for the recipe and artisanal 'ette for the better catalog picture.

THANKS for playing! Milady will, I'm sure, be trying it out soon. Will let you know.

Posted by: mindful webworker - cook's helper at January 03, 2016 05:42 PM (ACs58)

203 >>And - no chilli recipes.
Y'all are no help this week.
(Well, there was cth - thanks, man)
Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 05:37 PM (gQfxF)

Heh. Chili is a dump and stir thing for me I usually make in a crockpot so who knows. I've been in love with these sauce packets lately (I think they are red fork?) and using that for chili! I'm also the red wine and porcini one for pot roast. Add onion green chili beef beans and some tomato and that's it. Lazy cooking.

Posted by: Lea at January 03, 2016 05:42 PM (vmMMi)

204 Berocca B in orange juice.

Posted by: otho at January 03, 2016 05:42 PM (EWg9n)

205 And - no chilli recipes.
Y'all are no help this week.
(Well, there was cth - thanks, man)
Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 05:37 PM (gQfxF)

Heh. Chili is a dump and stir thing for me I usually make in a crockpot so who knows. I've been in love with these sauce packets lately (I think they are red fork?) and using that for chili! I'm also the red wine and porcini one for pot roast. Add onion green chili beef beans and some tomato and that's it. Lazy cooking.
Posted by: Lea at January 03, 2016 05:42 PM (vmMMi)


I never make it the same way twice, tbh. It's what I have on hand.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 03, 2016 05:45 PM (qCMvj)

206 Whoops. left something out-corrected

Here is what you do:

1) Don't pass out drunk- stop drinking a few hours before bed
2) Stay up as late as you can
3) Drinks lots of water
4) Right before bed take 2-3 ibuprofen

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at January 03, 2016 05:46 PM (hVdx9)

207 Mindful, there is a pastry-type thing that is cooked in that pan. The name escapes me at the moment. I seem to recall it being a Northern European treat.

Posted by: Emmie at January 03, 2016 05:47 PM (ffVbD)

208 Yeah, we don't use a recipe for chili either. Dump and stir.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at January 03, 2016 05:47 PM (+eR2D)

209 All this talk of lamb and no mention of Gyros? It can be good or mediocre, but pressed beef and lamb gyros became one of my favorite foods the first time Milady took me to a Greek restaurant. Greek Islands in Chicago used to be the best, perfectly roasted and thinly cut. Served with Tzatziki.

Even back when we were more-or-less "vegetarians," I'd still go for gyros. (That, and Mom's bacon, blessed holy food.) One can't be fanatical, after all.j

Now I want Roditys, saganaki, and spanakopita!

Posted by: mindful webworker - oopa! at January 03, 2016 05:47 PM (ACs58)

210 MWW, I love gyros. Thanks for that food craving, lol!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at January 03, 2016 05:48 PM (+eR2D)

211 I believe what Temple Grandin, autistic and animal behaviorist, said, that we raise these animals for food so we have an obligation to treat them well.

Full stop. You can still eat them. That's okay.

And I think vegetarians believe, wrongly, that they are the center and giver of life. No. When I say grace before meals, it's to humble myself before the divine plan and to thank God that at least for now we are in charge. I also don't go out and look for "cute" bears or lions because I know they will want to kill me.

Posted by: PJ at January 03, 2016 05:49 PM (cHuNI)

212 Yeah, lamb-rib lollipops with mashed taters and wine gravy. I might die of scurvey, but it'll be a joyful death, knowing I did what was right with my life.

Posted by: Snoodling Hero Emeritus at January 03, 2016 05:50 PM (k9qR4)

213 Plus, I honestly get all the vitamin C I need from the lime in my gin and tonics.

Posted by: Snoodling Hero Emeritus at January 03, 2016 05:51 PM (k9qR4)

214 I like the chocolate chili recipe from Well Fed. It's Paleo and the seasonings are great.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 03, 2016 05:52 PM (Lqy/e)

215

Chi,

here is a basic recipe to start with (that is good by itself) Very fast, and easy, one pot.

http://www.tastebook.com/recipes/2123750-Soup-Chili-Con-Carne

and I would tweak it with/add some or all of these if you want to play around with the flavors and texture

1 tsp cumin
2 tsp ground coriander
1 tsp red pepper flakes
1 tsp oregano
1 /2 tsp cayenne pepper
equal amount of tomato puree (with tomatoes)

(If you use ground beef. And, I usually mix the ground beef with some fatty and lean for more fat flavor. Or, ground chuck.)


Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 03, 2016 05:52 PM (qCMvj)

216 Y'all are no help this week.
(Well, there was cth - thanks, man)
Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 05:37 PM (gQfxF)

So my recipe at 131 is chopped liver????? (Just kidding chi, but see if what I wrote down will be of any help.)

Posted by: Moki at January 03, 2016 05:52 PM (7q2ch)

217 "Add drained pinto, kidney or black beans (or all three, I've done that a few times)"

I am told that the addition to chili of any of these adulterant foreign substances is a felony under the criminal codes of the State of Texas. Mandatory minimum sentencing applies.

Since I'm not a Texan, yet anyway, my answer to the chili-without-beans or chili-with-beans question is simply "Yes".

Posted by: torquewrench at January 03, 2016 05:52 PM (noWW6)

218 8 straight hours on Navy Paper work..done and done. And beat.

And it's good to know the more things change, the more they stay the same....Way to go NY Jets? Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 03, 2016 05:54 PM (DUoqb)

219 What seemed to work incredibly well when I was a college dude-

and had a hangover with nausea was:

1) Slug down 1 btl of Underberg bitters

2) Slug down one bottle of Coke

3) Follow with 2 aspirin/Advil

4) Cold shower if you can stand it...Warm shower if you can't

Hangover pretty much gone at end of shower.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 03, 2016 05:54 PM (KUa85)

220 >>And I think vegetarians believe, wrongly, that they are the center and giver of life. No.

That is an excellent point.
With vegan Orthorexics you often see that they believe they are changing/ saving the world with their food choices.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 03, 2016 05:54 PM (NOIQH)

221 I like the chocolate chili recipe from Well Fed. It's Paleo and the seasonings are great.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 03, 2016 05:52 PM (Lqy/e)


Hrm. I thought all of solanaceae was precisely the antonym of paleo.

Posted by: Snoodling Hero Emeritus at January 03, 2016 05:54 PM (k9qR4)

222 Best hangover cure ( or preventer)

Sub-lingual B-12 tablets.

Put one under your tongue, the B-12 is absorbed into you system.

Much quicker than swallowing tablet.

Believe me, it works.

Posted by: seamrog at January 03, 2016 05:57 PM (PXSYt)

223 Hangover?

Where is that recipe for menudo?


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 03, 2016 05:58 PM (1ijHg)

224 217- darlin, I had forefathers die at the Alamo. Beans in chili makes it taste good, fill you up, cut the cost and stretch further for a big family. And according to my dad, (aforementioned really bad rancher) provide entertainment after dinner with a concert.

Posted by: Moki at January 03, 2016 05:58 PM (7q2ch)

225 >>Orthorexics

I do kind of hate this word now as it seems to be applied to anyone who is trying minimize something (like paleo types). Oh no, you're trying to cut out sugar or bread, you have a diseas!le! That seems ridiculous.

Now too much elimination could become a problem but people are throwing that word around like crazy.

Posted by: Lea at January 03, 2016 05:59 PM (vmMMi)

226 A serious , well semi serious , question : Could your basic Animal Rights SJW pass a Turing test . I think there is a real likelihood they could be mistaken for a bot . Really some of them could .

Posted by: jay hoenemeyer at January 03, 2016 06:00 PM (uvj0z)

227 Keep spanking your mint and you'll go blind!

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 03, 2016 06:00 PM (kpqmD)

228 My physical anthropology professor spoke of tool use among animals, specifically primates.

he projected a photo of a chimp using a stick to probe a termite mound.

His comment? "This isn't tool use."

The next slide was of the space shuttle a still from the Charlie Sheen video.

His comment? "THIS is tool use."


fify

Posted by: Barney Frank at January 03, 2016 06:03 PM (7EHW6)

229 You know that ancient Greek dish, gyro? Invented in 1965, by a Turk.

Answers you won't like: greatest hangover curers still up and running are the Hash House Harriers. My second choice would be one watch in the engine room, oiling. As me auld mate the master mariner put it, "Ye'll soon sweat it oot."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 03, 2016 06:03 PM (xq1UY)

230 When I make chili, I use ground beef and beans, and serve it over rice. It's pretty good, although I'm not an expert on chili. I use the recipe in the "America's Test Kitchen Family Cookbook".

Posted by: rickl at January 03, 2016 06:04 PM (sdi6R)

231 Well, Clarice, have the Lambs stopped screaming?

Posted by: Hannibal L. at January 03, 2016 06:05 PM (wiWko)

232 I am told that the addition to chili of any of these adulterant foreign substances is a felony under the criminal codes of the State of Texas. Mandatory minimum sentencing applies.

I'm pretty sure that was some bullshit that journalist asshole Frank X Tolbert
made up to impress the NYC crowd and

lift chili from from being a déclassé po'folks dish to a gourmet deeelight, my dears.

Beans and their aftereffects are simply unheard of among Our Class, don't you know Willafred?

As a native Texan I can tell you that everybody I knew growing up used beans in their chili.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 03, 2016 06:09 PM (KUa85)

233 Slightly OT.....

Latinas in yoga pants.

That is all.

Posted by: Blano at January 03, 2016 06:12 PM (heN73)

234 Posted by: torquewrench at January 03, 2016 05:52 PM (noWW6)

I've heard the snootyness about beans in chili, but the truth is that beans are cheap while meat adds delicious flavor (but I can't believe how expensive it is here in TX) so feeding a family cheaply means mixing the two.

My recipe is:

Frozen pre-cooked red, pinto, and black beans (I cook them in the crockpot whenever I havea ham bone)

Pre-cooked ground beef (my mom used ground pork)

A quart jar of my M-i-l's salsa

Cumin and cayenne to taste.

Mix all together and cook on low without scorching (not a lot of liquid in the recipe so, not very long). Flavor is better the next day after "marrying".

I'm pretty sure that recipe would cause chili snobs to cry and swear, but it's inexpensive and tasty.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 03, 2016 06:12 PM (GDulk)

235 I kept it simple because I didn't want to hit the grocery store on a Sunday. I like to wait until Monday morning when the aisles are empty. BLTs tonight. I added pepperjack and avocado, so that makes it fancy, right?

Posted by: no good deed at January 03, 2016 06:13 PM (GgxVX)

236
Broncs with 5 turnovers, that's the team I know.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 03, 2016 06:13 PM (ODxAs)

237 My husband is native Texan and puts beans in his chili.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at January 03, 2016 06:13 PM (+eR2D)

238 Just for the record, only kidney beans are acceptable in chili.

Any other kind of bean is a some kind of Barky/Hillary bastard love child conspiracy from the pit of hell.

I hope that didn't come out as too harsh.

Somethings just aren't done.

Posted by: weirdflunky at January 03, 2016 06:14 PM (T3MGL)

239 Polliwog!!!

We were talking ebelskivers upthread and I thought of you!!!

How are you and yours doing? Did you have a good Christmas and New Years?

Posted by: Moki at January 03, 2016 06:15 PM (7q2ch)

240 rickl @ 230- chili with beans over rice.
That's the same way I do it. But then, I'm from South Carolina. I've only been in Texas for 20 years, so that means I have a lot of catching up on being a Texan. Looking forward to that Alamo thing.

Posted by: Eromero at January 03, 2016 06:15 PM (b+df9)

241 >>>Best hangover cure<<<

Cowbell. Bloody Marys, habanero jelly and muffins.

Posted by: Fritz at January 03, 2016 06:16 PM (BngQR)

242 Water before bed, wakey wakey 2 cups of coffee, 2 beers, bacon, eggs, all is well

Posted by: marine43 at January 03, 2016 06:16 PM (Qovtd)

243 Native Texan and I like my chili served over Fritos, topped with cheese and purple onion.

Posted by: no good deed at January 03, 2016 06:16 PM (GgxVX)

244 Posted by: Moki at January 03, 2016 06:15 PM (7q2ch)

Hiya Moki. We did, thank you. It's a huge blessing to have family nearby to celebrate with (we thought that would never happen again). I told the kids about your family eating at IHOP with the Skandi diplomats and road crew. They thought that was cool.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 03, 2016 06:18 PM (GDulk)

245 Hangover cure:

1) Hot shower with a hot girl
2) Hair of the dog

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 03, 2016 06:18 PM (lutOX)

246 Chocolate chili

http://bit.ly/1mtpLsy

No beans. I like beans but I usually don't add them to chili.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 03, 2016 06:19 PM (Lqy/e)

247 The beans from blind baking the pie crust are not good for cooking after used. But you can use them again if stored properly

Posted by: Sunny at January 03, 2016 06:21 PM (Xnxty)

248 Untested hangover cure:

https://gwtz.wordpress.com/2015/09/16/angelicas-hangover-cure/

Posted by: delayna at January 03, 2016 06:21 PM (KnC4k)

249 Hangover cure-

Back in the day it was smoking some weed.

Since that is apparently a no no with the boss man these days it's just drink a lot of water before bed and when u get up the next day. Advil helps.

Posted by: weirdflunky at January 03, 2016 06:21 PM (T3MGL)

250 Posted by: Sunny at January 03, 2016 06:21 PM (Xnxty)

I had wondered about that.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 03, 2016 06:21 PM (GDulk)

251 That is an excellent point.
With vegan Orthorexics you often see that they believe they are changing/ saving the world with their food choices.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 03, 2016 05:54 PM (NOIQH)

Usually in their LEATHER sandals. One thing the VEGANS have not solved is footwear--use rubber soles for instance--rubber plantations bad, use plastics or other resins--big oil and so on and so forth.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 03, 2016 06:22 PM (kXoT0)

252 Peyton Manning about to come in the game.

Posted by: weirdflunky at January 03, 2016 06:23 PM (T3MGL)

253 We must destroy all carnivorous animals. They commit countless homicides against their fellow animals that makes Chicago pale in comparison.

Posted by: PETA at January 03, 2016 06:24 PM (7EHW6)

254 233 Slightly OT.....

Latinas in yoga pants.

That is all.
Posted by: Blano at January 03, 2016 06:12 PM (heN73)


One helluva hangover cure!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 03, 2016 06:25 PM (hlMPp)

255 Hey, noticed a stray signal on my TV tuner and it looks like CometTV is now in my area. Must be very new since their website doesn't list our area and the TV listings don't have it yet...Started the 1st, I guess.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 03, 2016 06:25 PM (oVJmc)

256 238
Just for the record, only kidney beans are acceptable in chili.



Any other kind of bean is a some kind of Barky/Hillary bastard love child conspiracy from the pit of hell.


Have you considered arugula in your chili? It gives it that extra little kick.

Posted by: Barry O. at January 03, 2016 06:25 PM (LAe3v)

257 Being subject to sinus migraines, I have a morbid fear of hangovers and make it a point to never earn one.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 03, 2016 04:05 PM (GDulk)

Amen, when I went out on New Year's Eve, I gave the waitress/bartender a ten dollar bill and told her, "This is your tip to make sure that my big glass of ginger ale is always full. I will also tip you for my drinks." Stay hydrated, get small quantities of ginger from the ale, it's all good. Unfortunately, one can do nothing about the secondhand smoke, which dries out the sinuses.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 03, 2016 06:26 PM (kXoT0)

258 244- it was very different, to say the least!

I'm glad you are close to family now, and your chili recipe sounds great-would love your mother in law's salsa recipe. I have tried and failed many times to make homemade salsa, and would clean your oven for a good recipe!

Posted by: Moki at January 03, 2016 06:27 PM (7q2ch)

259 Making the pasta w perfected arrabiata sauce from the latest Cooks Illustrated. Not telling the spouse (it calls for anchovies) and seeing if he thinks it's any better than my usual.

Posted by: keena at January 03, 2016 06:28 PM (RiTnx)

260 >>>Latinas in yoga pants.

How about some wise latinas? I want you to love me for my mind.

Posted by: Sonya Sodamagor at January 03, 2016 06:29 PM (7EHW6)

261 We're having Mayacoba (Peruvian) beans with ham today.

My 3 qt. slow cooker doesn't get hot enough to cook beans. Have to use the big one. We will have leftovers.

Posted by: KT at January 03, 2016 06:29 PM (qahv/)

262 But science needs to know the exact psi at which a hamster will burst, with and without duct tape.

This is motherfk'n science, people. SCIENCE!

Posted by: Professor Shatinkirk at January 03, 2016 06:31 PM (AxTzt)

263 I wrap Jeb around my little pinky. I hope he win.

Posted by: Sonya Sodamagor at January 03, 2016 06:32 PM (7EHW6)

264 260
>>>Latinas in yoga pants.



How about some wise latinas? I want you to love me for my mind.

Posted by: Sonya Sodamagor at January 03, 2016 06:29 PM (7EHW6)

Wide Latinas in yoga pants?

Posted by: I Like Big Butts at January 03, 2016 06:33 PM (8aOqE)

265 Oh, animals and testing and all. My mother worked as a lab assistant for a brief time. She and the other assistants got quite fond of some of the test animals - especially a particular golden retriever dog ... who would lick the hands of the assistants and researchers, even as they were doing something painful to her. Eventually, that dog was adopted and taken home to be a pet by one of the researchers.

Mom hated the monkeys, though - nasty, dirty, spiteful, vicious little b*stards. She was quite cheerful, she told us years later -- whenever any of them had to be put down in the course of the studies. And Mom was otherwise the most sentimental animal-lover imaginable.

My daughter and I have started keeping chickens in the back yard -- for the eggs, you see. And we have become quite sentimental about Larry-Bird and the girls. (It turned out that one of the ten-week-old laying pullets we got from a local poultry farm was a rooster... Daughter wanted to name them Larry, Moe and Curly ... or Lorena, Maureen and Carly.) But once you have given them names, they are pets, and unless things really go sideways in the next few years, it will be extremely difficult to eat them when their egg-laying and rooster usefulness is ended.

I know that my farm-raised grandmother would be appalled at how soft-hearted we are about this - but at this point, killing and dressing out any of our chicken-Stooges is just not in the cards. Likely they will live out their chicken lives and be buried in a corner of the back yard, like the other pets.

Posted by: CeliaHayes at January 03, 2016 06:33 PM (95iDF)

266 As a native Texan I can tell you that everybody I knew growing up used beans in their chili.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 03, 2016 06:09 PM (KUa85)

Yup...chili is whatever YOU want to put in it. I like it all. Chili is proof, along with beer, that God love's us and wants us to be happy.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 03, 2016 06:33 PM (ej1L0)

267 My Chili's Name is All Wimps Check It At The Door Chili.

One main secret to good chili is do this:

Brown your chosen meat--I like ground sirloin--with onions and garlic, then add your spices, and cook the spices into the meat for about 10 minutes before adding any liquids.

Other tricks:

Depending on the quantity of liquid add a beef bouillon cube or two to make the liquid taste better.

Hidden spice: 1 to 2 teaspoons of Colman's Double Superfine Mustard Powder.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 03, 2016 06:34 PM (kXoT0)

268 My husband is native Texan and puts beans in his chili.


Man without pulse makes best chili.

Posted by: Stuff Confucius Never Actually Said, But Probably Thought About, vol. 3 at January 03, 2016 06:36 PM (RU5ki)

269 I'm making Chili tonight, I think. Tis a cold day in Texas. I mean, not cold like it's cold in really cold places, but Texas cold.

Posted by: Lauren at January 03, 2016 06:36 PM (bYGAR)

270 #2 I hate lamb. Bad aftertaste and just gamey as fuck.

Try American lamb vs. NZ or Aussie. The wife loves lamb and insists on American, not gamey like the others.

Posted by: Farmer at January 03, 2016 06:38 PM (o/90i)

271 Chicken Marsalla for dinner. Chickens name was Bob

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at January 03, 2016 06:40 PM (voOPb)

272 Posted by: Moki at January 03, 2016 06:27 PM (7q2ch)

I will try to remember to ask her when I talk to her next. I used to help my mom can fruit as a kid but haven't done any on my own since my in-laws have always had a huge garden and my m-i-l is so good at canning.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 03, 2016 06:40 PM (GDulk)

273 269 I'm making Chili tonight, I think. Tis a cold day in Texas. I mean, not cold like it's cold in really cold places, but Texas cold.
Posted by: Lauren at January 03, 2016 06:36 PM (bYGAR)
***
I've endured 12 Boston winters, and can tell you that Texas cold is cold.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 03, 2016 06:41 PM (lutOX)

274 Oh, oh I have a food related recommendation as well.

We've been cold brewing coffee for a while. It's good, but the toddy is basically the ugliest thing you'll have in your kitchen. Unless your kitchen is made out of stacked canned goods fashioned into cabinets or something.

Anyway, hubby got me a crazy glass cold brew drip coffee system for Christmas. It makes great coffee, and it looks really cool doing it. Sadly, it's sort of huge so it's not really something that can be left out all the time unless you have some space that is a) protected from the dangers of children and pets and also b) not topped by cabinets but it is a very fun way to make coffee.

Posted by: Lauren at January 03, 2016 06:41 PM (GZ6Pf)

275 I'm afraid to waste a ham hock, that's the real dilemma. Beans are cheap, but I don't want to waste them either!
Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 05:34 PM (gQfxF)


Then just cook them down for refried beans. You can't be blamed for throwing out beans you can't get to make refried beans, after all.

Next time, if it works, you can use those 15 cents worth of beans for making decent food like ham-hocks and beans.

(I am only mocking myself, because that is my own thinking there too)

Posted by: Kindltot at January 03, 2016 06:42 PM (q2o38)

276 Animal deaths are only tragic when it takes place at the hands of a human.

Posted by: PETA at January 03, 2016 06:43 PM (7EHW6)

277 Just for the record, only kidney beans are acceptable in chili.

bleck,

I thought I hated my mom's chili, turns out it was just the ^*( kidney beans.

Posted by: DaveA at January 03, 2016 06:43 PM (DL2i+)

278 Texas cold?

Thought everything was bigger in TX

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at January 03, 2016 06:43 PM (voOPb)

279 "and can tell you that Texas cold is cold."

Yeah, Texas cold somehow gets into your bones in a way that you don't feel in other places. Up in the mountains and snow? It might be -10 but you feel ok. In Texas it's 31 degrees and you're begging for those 103 degree summer days to return.

Posted by: Lauren at January 03, 2016 06:43 PM (GZ6Pf)

280 Food for Thought: ( see how I am seeking this in on topic?)

Saudi Arabia breaking relations with Iran...And the Middle East continues to unwind under Fredo..Funny but Saudi Arabia is moving closer to Israel while the US moves further away? Fucked up world

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 03, 2016 06:45 PM (DUoqb)

281 I thought I hated my mom's chili, turns out it was just the ^*( kidney beans.
Posted by: DaveA at January 03, 2016 06:43 PM (DL2i+)

Exactly. My sister still uses kidney beans, yuck. I like black beans or nice tender white beans.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 03, 2016 06:45 PM (kXoT0)

282 Posted by: Lauren at January 03, 2016 06:41 PM (GZ6Pf)

I just used my 8-cup French press since that's what I had. What coffee do you use for your cold-brew?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 03, 2016 06:46 PM (GDulk)

283 "SJW's, Militant Vegetarians, and all of their ilk always worry about the "poor animals" but have no qualms about human beings being shredded all over the planet if it suits their needs and goals."

Yup.
Actually, I think they like the idea of human casualties, the more the better.

Chi, we mostly cook on the same basis you do, so no chili recipes here.

As far as hangovers: I always apply aspirin, B vitamins, and a lot of water before going to bed. Gatorade is better. Seems to help.
Tried some amino acid (?)(starts with G ?) a few times, results ambiguous.
Oxygen; when I worked next to a 5000 gallon dewar full of liquid o2, I tried going and breathing from the vent line a few times, seemed to help a little, after 10 minutes or so .... definitely get an oxygen high of a sort ....
Back when I worked across the street from Chicago's best Italian beef place my favorite cure was a beef with hot and sweet and a quart of milk.
Coffee is always good as an additional aid to recovery.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 03, 2016 06:48 PM (H1SMJ)

284 279. Lauren

Part of it is the damp - when it's cold here, it's damp, too.

But, yeah, I used to laugh off daytime highs of below zero with gale-force winds in a way that I can't quite muster when it gets to 40 now.

My blood's thinned, as the old folks would say.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 03, 2016 06:48 PM (lutOX)

285 49 ... Artisanal, That menu sounds great. My grandparents always had humus available (LOTS of lemon in it) and a tahini/molasses dip along with stuffed grape leaves and spinach pies. They knew a ton of finger food was the way to go when all the parents and cousins visited. And they got to nibble the left overs when we went home.

Question: what is the consistency of the deviled egg yolks using champagne vinegar? I love the stuff, actually any vinegar, but have only used mayo when making deviled eggs.

Posted by: JTB at January 03, 2016 06:49 PM (FvdPb)

286 Some of these look like you're starring in your own Breaking Bad.

http://tinyurl.com/jkrvk2e

Posted by: DaveA at January 03, 2016 06:50 PM (DL2i+)

287 I looked for Comet TV a few weeks ago and was sure I didn't have it. But yesterday searching channels found it but it is listed as GeoTraf on my Verizon. Suspect that it's a channel change

Posted by: skip at January 03, 2016 06:50 PM (C1Suc)

288 Saudi Arabia breaking relations with Iran...And the Middle East continues to unwind under Fredo..Funny but Saudi Arabia is moving closer to Israel while the US moves further away? Fucked up world
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 03, 2016 06:45 PM (DUoqb)

Saudi Arabia is reaping what it has sown with its Wahabist clerics and seeking to be the holiest of all muslims.

Interesting fact: Mohammed was taken in as a refugee by the Jewish city of Medina. He repaid their kindness by taking over the city and enslaving or murdering his benefactors. Hmm, it's almost like taking in a muslim refugee might be a bad thing, nah, that's just crazee talkee.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 03, 2016 06:50 PM (kXoT0)

289 Chi,

You can not use those beans for anything else - don't waste the ham hock. I like the pie weight that WS sells, it is easy to use. The beans sweat and you can only use them about 3 times.

Posted by: tops at January 03, 2016 06:50 PM (AX1D8)

290 None of your peasant food would ever set upon our table.

Chili. Bah, for gourmands only.

Posted by: Jaques Johan Luciano Terrance Von Kuthbert-Kloggenstein at January 03, 2016 06:51 PM (WVsWD)

291 Motel Hell on Comet now

Posted by: skip at January 03, 2016 06:52 PM (C1Suc)

292 " What coffee do you use for your cold-brew?"

If you can find it there's a great coffee out of Austin called Third Coast Coffee. They're dirty hippies, of course, but they make a great product.

Since we're not in Austin anymore though I've been buying another Texas brand called Independence Coffee Co. recently. I like them a lot too.

Otherwise, I do Eight O'Clock. Cheap and good.

Posted by: Lauren at January 03, 2016 06:53 PM (GZ6Pf)

293 Blurring out the booties though

Posted by: skip at January 03, 2016 06:53 PM (C1Suc)

294 Chili. Bah, for gourmands only.
Posted by: Jaques Johan Luciano Terrance Von Kuthbert-Kloggenstein at January 03, 2016 06:51 PM (WVsWD)

Yes, we agree, stick with your New England Boiled Dinner, please.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 03, 2016 06:53 PM (kXoT0)

295 286 Some of these look like you're starring in your own Breaking Bad.

http://tinyurl.com/jkrvk2e
Posted by: DaveA at January 03, 2016 06:50 PM (DL2i+)
***
three years ago, I grew out my whiskers and shaved my head. Place where I worked was a bit 'rough,' let us say.

Guys on the line started calling me "Walt" and "Mr. White" and I had no idea what the hell they were talking about.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 03, 2016 06:54 PM (lutOX)

296 LOL. They're good for everything-as long as you're affected by celiac disease-and then you could probably make them with gluten free flour.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 04:06 PM (M+RRn)

King Arthur Flour makes a delicious gluten free scone mix.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 03, 2016 06:55 PM (kXoT0)

297 291 Motel Hell on Comet now
Posted by: skip at January 03, 2016 06:52 PM (C1Suc)
***
"Meat's meat, and a man has got to eat."

Good times. And it has Cliff Claven.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 03, 2016 06:55 PM (lutOX)

298 Re Ree Drumond the Pioneer Woman. She grates on me now but I used to like her show.

If you have watched the show from the beginning you will enjoy this parody website--PieNearWoman.com. I actually laughed out loud when I first read it.

Posted by: Sunny at January 03, 2016 06:56 PM (Xnxty)

299 I don't think I've ever had lamb, but I once had to participate in the baby lamb castration process. Now there's something you never forget.

Posted by: Blano at January 03, 2016 06:56 PM (heN73)

300 Any way is good but do like different types of beans in the same pot, say dark and light kidney and black. But many kinds are possible

Posted by: skip at January 03, 2016 06:56 PM (C1Suc)

301 I've never heard of gluten free shampoo; That's hysterical!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 04:33 PM (M+RRn)

My sister only uses gluten free shampoo and makeup. I also have a severe gluten allergy, but, I don't take it that far.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 03, 2016 06:57 PM (kXoT0)

302 Sherry McEvil,
First time I've stopped in today & I learned something from your comment 288.

I never knew that about Mohammed. Religion of piece is more like it.
I purposely spelled it piece, it's not a typo this time.

I'm reading a kindle book in my iPad.
Thank you.

Posted by: Carol at January 03, 2016 06:57 PM (sj3Ax)

303 Saudi Arabia is reaping what it has sown with its Wahabist clerics and seeking to be the holiest of all muslims.


Sure, no doubt, but further instability in the Middle East is just so damn dangerous...especially with not adults in charge in Washington

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 03, 2016 06:58 PM (DUoqb)

304 I know that my farm-raised grandmother would be appalled at how soft-hearted we are about this - but at this point, killing and dressing out any of our chicken-Stooges is just not in the cards. Likely they will live out their chicken lives and be buried in a corner of the back yard, like the other pets.

Posted by: CeliaHayes at January 03, 2016 06:33 PM (95iDF)


His name was Colin . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErRHJlE4PGI

Posted by: Kindltot at January 03, 2016 06:58 PM (q2o38)

305 I'm thinking a nice 7 bean soup is the proper thing to stave of the January wolves.

Posted by: Fritz at January 03, 2016 06:58 PM (BngQR)

306 >>> Likely they will live out their chicken lives and be buried in a corner of the back yard, like the other pets.

Hopefully, only the pets...

"Say, whatever happened to uncle Bill"?

Posted by: HH at January 03, 2016 06:58 PM (DrCtv)

307 Re Ree Drumond the Pioneer Woman. She grates on me now but I used to like her show.
Posted by: Sunny at January 03, 2016 06:56 PM (Xnxty)

The late fiance was from Pawhuska and knew the family she married into.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 03, 2016 06:58 PM (kXoT0)

308 267
My Chili's Name is All Wimps Check It At The Door Chili.



One main secret to good chili is do this:



Brown your chosen meat--I like ground sirloin--with onions and
garlic, then add your spices, and cook the spices into the meat for
about 10 minutes before adding any liquids.



Other tricks:



Depending on the quantity of liquid add a beef bouillon cube or two to make the liquid taste better.



Hidden spice: 1 to 2 teaspoons of Colman's Double Superfine Mustard Powder.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 03, 2016 06:34 PM (kXoT0)


Yes to sneaking in some mustard powder.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 03, 2016 06:59 PM (EzgxV)

309 "Up in the mountains and snow? It might be -10 but you feel ok. In Texas it's 31 degrees and you're begging for those 103 degree summer days to return."


That's the fooking truth.

32F was nice in the morning this summer in Colorado. Nothing. Long sleeved shirt, tops. 32F here and you are dying.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2016 06:59 PM (YRM5Y)

310 But it's a dry cold!

Posted by: Hudson at January 03, 2016 07:01 PM (8aOqE)

311 His name was Colin . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErRHJlE4PGI
Posted by: Kindltot at January 03, 2016 06:58 PM (q2o3

Used to get a food and wine magazine and it had articles about New York foodies buying animals for their hobby farms and raising them to eat--obsessing over the feed, feeding them herbs to enhance the meat, making friend with the local butcher to discuss the harvest, planning out how to use every scrap of meat, innards, and what to do with the hide. Bizarre. People who live in those towns surrounding NYC must just shake their heads. I bet they also charge double or triple for the slaughtering and packaging after having to discuss it ad nauseum with Biff and Binky.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 03, 2016 07:03 PM (kXoT0)

312 I'll mention again what I did this morning, another interesting read at Legal Insurrection a article written in 1976 a little history of muzzie groups like muzzie brotherhood titled First the Saturday People then the Sunday People

Posted by: skip at January 03, 2016 07:03 PM (C1Suc)

313 Yes to sneaking in some mustard powder.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 03, 2016 06:59 PM (EzgxV)

Seriously, try the bouillon cube thing, it makes the chili broth really savory in addition to the heat.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 03, 2016 07:04 PM (kXoT0)

314 Chili bad. Banana pudding good.

Posted by: Koko at January 03, 2016 07:05 PM (u5gzz)

315 >>Re Ree Drumond the Pioneer Woman. She grates on me now but I used to like her show.

Aw, I like Ree - she's fairly repetitive with her chatter and the contrived situations for delivery food can be silly, but I like that she's created her success from scratch. I prefer her website.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 03, 2016 07:06 PM (NOIQH)

316 I like to add a bit of depth to my chili by adding 2-3 tbsp tomato paste to the browned meat and onion and cook it until it is deepened in color a bit, then add the rest of the stuff.


Funny thing, I really, really dislike chili, but I help the husband make it all the time. Don't eat more than the bite or two it takes to get the seasoning right.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at January 03, 2016 07:06 PM (+eR2D)

317 Fritz @ 305- 7 bean soup?
WTH? You do know they make 13 bean soup? Right?

Posted by: Eromero at January 03, 2016 07:07 PM (b+df9)

318 #302 Do a web search using the term, muhammad a refugee in Medina, and you get lots of references.

http://www.meforum.org/blog/2015/12/muhammad-refugee

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 03, 2016 07:08 PM (kXoT0)

319 "The late fiance was from Pawhuska and knew the family she married into"

Oh yeah? What were they like? I always imagined they were a pretty wealthy ranching family round those parts.

Posted by: Lauren at January 03, 2016 07:08 PM (bYGAR)

320 First the Saturday People then the Sunday People
Posted by: skip


Then the Tuesday afternoon people.

Posted by: Moody Blues at January 03, 2016 07:08 PM (FkBIv)

321 I don't think I've ever had lamb, but I once had to participate in the baby lamb castration process. Now there's something you never forget.
Posted by: Blano


It saddens me that our policy for dealing with baby lambs is more enlightened than our policy for dealing with baby humans.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at January 03, 2016 07:08 PM (7EHW6)

322 Me and a guy from Johnstown PA were being sent to Las Vegas temp duty in the USAF in August. It was 120 degrees, those from the west gave us the bull it's hot but there is no humidity. Your f- in right it was hot, you were sweating a mile away minute but it evaporated as soon as came out.

Posted by: skip at January 03, 2016 07:10 PM (C1Suc)

323 Artisanal, Never mind. Just saw the recipe you posted at 196. That looks damn good. Thanks. (But I can hear my grandfather asking where's the paprika. Family joke.)

Posted by: JTB at January 03, 2016 07:11 PM (FvdPb)

324 "Meat's meat, and a man has got to eat." 

MEAT IS MURDER

DON'T EAT ANYTHING WITH A FACE

Posted by: PETA at January 03, 2016 07:11 PM (7EHW6)

325 "is more enlightened than our policy for dealing with baby humans."



You wanna castrate some humans?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2016 07:11 PM (YRM5Y)

326 310 But it's a dry cold!
Posted by: Hudson at January 03, 2016 07:01 PM (8aOqE)
***
there's no such thing in Texas.

Summer's hot and muggy; winter's cold and damp.

The humidity abides.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 03, 2016 07:11 PM (lutOX)

327 >>>>WTH? You do know they make 13 bean soup? Right?<<<

Yeah, but we can't eat that many beans before they go bad.. On another note, I'm also thinking that garlic mashed potatoes with a tasty mushroom gravy would go great with gorilla steaks. Cold-weather comfort food is a wonderful, magical thing.

Posted by: Fritz at January 03, 2016 07:12 PM (BngQR)

328 Oh yeah? What were they like? I always imagined they were a pretty wealthy ranching family round those parts.
Posted by: Lauren at January 03, 2016 07:08 PM (bYGAR)

He just said they were salt of the earth folks, he never commented on their money. I think they are well to do. Fiance actually worked for the Mullendores when he was young working their cattle--they were very wealthy.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 03, 2016 07:12 PM (kXoT0)

329 "DON'T EAT ANYTHING WITH A FACE"



Oops.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2016 07:12 PM (YRM5Y)

330 DON'T EAT ANYTHING WITH A FACE

Words to live by

Posted by: dr. h. lecter at January 03, 2016 07:12 PM (6FqZa)

331 Sherry, my old coworker dil is apparently a health food but and on vacation she made them drive out of the way of some sort of plants or something? Because chemicals. And she was really weird about what restaurants they were allowed to eat at on vacation. That's taking it a bit far.

>>>Ree Drumond the Pioneer Woman. She grates on me now but I used to like her show.

I like her website, but her voice is annoying to me so I don't like the show. Plus I don't really care to hear about her husband. I mean I'm sure he's nice. I just don't care.

Posted by: Lea at January 03, 2016 07:13 PM (vmMMi)

332 Moody Blues not exactly, that would only leave the Friday people under sharia law

Posted by: skip at January 03, 2016 07:13 PM (C1Suc)

333 313 Yes to sneaking in some mustard powder.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 03, 2016 06:59 PM (EzgxV)

Seriously, try the bouillon cube thing, it makes the chili broth really savory in addition to the heat.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 03, 2016 07:04 PM (kXoT0)
***
yep, and a bottle of beer in place of some of the water

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 03, 2016 07:13 PM (lutOX)

334 315 >>Re Ree Drumond the Pioneer Woman. She grates on me now but I used to like her show.

Aw, I like Ree - she's fairly repetitive with her chatter and the contrived situations for delivery food can be silly, but I like that she's created her success from scratch. I prefer her website.

I was a fan from her first appearance on Throwdown with Bobby Flay. She and her bff Hyacinth prepared a thanksgiving dinner v. Bobby. From there, I found her website and enjoyed it (still do now and then). But her tv show now is a needle scratch with the over acting by her and staging of her kids in the show.

But what I really want to do is wash her face and apply proper eye make up on her. She has lovely ginger! hair and cream complexion but the hard eyeliner is not flattering.

Posted by: Sunny at January 03, 2016 07:14 PM (Xnxty)

335 "The humidity abides."


We've always got humidity. No matter how dry it gets. It's strange.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2016 07:14 PM (YRM5Y)

336 "He just said they were salt of the earth folks,"

That's good to hear. I like Ree. I don't really watch her show, but her website basically taught me how to cook when I was a young married woman who could hardly tackle a box of hamburger helper.

See ChemJeff, there is hope!

Posted by: Lauren at January 03, 2016 07:14 PM (bYGAR)

337 330 DON'T EAT ANYTHING WITH A FACE

Words to live by
Posted by: dr. h. lecter at January 03, 2016 07:12 PM (6FqZa)
***
"try peeling off your face....."

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 03, 2016 07:15 PM (lutOX)

338 "Don't eat anything with a face"
Especially if it's a goose smiling at you.

Posted by: skip at January 03, 2016 07:15 PM (C1Suc)

339 It saddens me that our policy for dealing with baby lambs is more enlightened than our policy for dealing with baby humans.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at January 03, 2016 07:08 PM (7EHW6)

Have no idea what the "policy" is now, but in 1980 it was kinda brutal. Also quick and efficient.

Posted by: Blano at January 03, 2016 07:16 PM (heN73)

340 >>>MEAT IS MURDER



DON'T EAT ANYTHING WITH A FACE

Posted by: PETA at January 03, 2016 07:11 PM (7EHW6)<<<



What if I invent a clock cake?

Posted by: The Amazing Ahmed at January 03, 2016 07:16 PM (H9MG5)

341 artisanal 'ette, if you're still lurking about,

As a follow up to a past food thread, the pheasant and chestnut terrine I was planning to make for Christmas was fantastic. The same folks posted a similar recipe for a rabbit lemon and thyme terrine. I'll have to try that sometime soon.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 03, 2016 07:17 PM (pLwjI)

342 You see that cute innocent lamb? That's exactly like your typical Syrian refugee.

And you heartless conservative bastards want to imprison and exclude it behind the barbed wire fence of your bigoted hate! You buyin this?

Posted by: Barack Obama at January 03, 2016 07:17 PM (7EHW6)

343 Without western intervention, the persians will crush the arabs.

Posted by: Fritz at January 03, 2016 04:51 PM (BngQR)


True, and I believe that we're going to see it happen within the next year. Iran has Russia's backing and both are losing loads of money from the Saudis dumping oil on the market. There are lots of Shias in the eastern provinces of Saudi Arabia, which just happens to be where most of the oil is.

Iran is going to want to attack, consolidate, and fortify before Obama leaves office. Even if a resolute Republican does win in 2016, they aren't going to risk a nuclear war with Russia.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at January 03, 2016 07:17 PM (dPpmC)

344 The thing about Ree that I admire is she married for love and found herself out in the middle of the prairie with nothing for miles around and she made it work for her in a big way. The Osage is beautiful, but, since it's vast and lonely, it has driven many a woman left by herself all day completely insane.

BTW, August Osage County is the worst BS movie ever made. The acting/writing was execrable and the story just plain stupid. It's not the Osage county I know and love. Like my cousins and I said, that's 2.5 hours of my life I want back.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 03, 2016 07:18 PM (kXoT0)

345 DON'T EAT ANYTHING WITH A FACE
Posted by: PETA


I never eat the face.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 03, 2016 07:18 PM (FkBIv)

346 "
We've always got humidity. No matter how dry it gets. It's strange."

Yeah cold and rainy is basically the worst.

But, hey, we live with it because we get to have a governor who posts the Gonzales Flag in response to Obama saying he's going to push gun control.

Posted by: Lauren at January 03, 2016 07:18 PM (bYGAR)

347 Fritz @ 305- 7 bean soup?
WTH? You do know they make 13 bean soup? Right?
Posted by: Eromero


The Irish have a 239 bean soup.

One more and it would be two farty.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 03, 2016 07:19 PM (9YDUz)

348 DON'T EAT ANYTHING WITH A FACE

The face is the best part.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 03, 2016 07:19 PM (oVJmc)

349 Also re Ree. I think Ladd's family makes quite a lot from the Feds on the wild horses that are on their land.

But please go check PieNearWoman. It is extremely well done and hilarious.

Posted by: Sunny at January 03, 2016 07:19 PM (Xnxty)

350 Yeah, I think tv chef-ing is a skill, because I don't like most shows because of their chatter. Ina Garten is usually calming (though her London show was weird) and Bobby Flay is good. The rest generally annoy me, except Trisha Yearwood, with whom I'd just want to drink wine and make 11,000 calorie meals.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 03, 2016 07:20 PM (NOIQH)

351 345 DON'T EAT ANYTHING WITH A FACE
Posted by: PETA

I never eat the face.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 03, 2016 07:18 PM (FkBIv)
***
Then you're missing out on the cheeks and the other good stuff....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 03, 2016 07:20 PM (lutOX)

352 Fired up for 2016, people! In fact, I've already rescheduled all of this week's meetings so I can miss them before I even get off the plane!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at January 03, 2016 07:20 PM (ANVXm)

353 "would go great with gorilla steaks"

WTF, dude.

Posted by: Koko at January 03, 2016 07:21 PM (u5gzz)

354 324 "Meat's meat, and a man has got to eat."

MEAT IS MURDER

DON'T EAT ANYTHING WITH A FACE
Posted by: PETA at January 03, 2016 07:11 PM (7EHW6)


Meat is murder....

Tastey, Tastey Murder

Posted by: Palmetto Primary (infrequently Vile) at January 03, 2016 07:21 PM (TjcWY)

355 Motel Hell on Comet now

Posted by: skip at January 03, 2016 06:52 PM (C1Suc)



It takes all kinds of critters...to make Farmer Vincents fritters.

See?

A perfect fit for the Food Thread.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 03, 2016 07:21 PM (KUa85)

356 The Thing is on. Scary

Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 07:21 PM (zOTsN)

357 Good news: Chiefs won
Bad news: Denver is on top again

Posted by: chemjeff - go chiefs at January 03, 2016 07:22 PM (uZNvH)

358 Iran is going to want to attack, consolidate, and fortify before Obama leaves office. Even if a resolute Republican does win in 2016, they aren't going to risk a nuclear war with Russia.
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at January 03, 2016 07:17 PM (dPpmC)

If they can overrun the KSA, then their mullahs, aytollahs, etc will control Mecca and Medina. That will be bad, very very bad, because it will really bolster their claim about establishing The Caliphate. If they think The Caliphate is eminent, then everyone will find out just how nice those sweet muslim neighbors really are..

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 03, 2016 07:22 PM (kXoT0)

359 War: SA vs. Iran -- who wins?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 03, 2016 04:31 PM (iQIUe)


Iran, probably. Saudi has American-trained and American-equipped military, but, Arabs.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 03, 2016 07:22 PM (cKwwS)

360 "But, hey, we live with it because we get to have a governor who posts the Gonzales Flag in response to Obama saying he's going to push gun control."

*Stands up straight. God Bless Gregg Abbot*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2016 07:22 PM (YRM5Y)

361 >>You see that cute innocent lamb? That's exactly like your typical Syrian refugee.

Posted by: Barack Obama

How are Syrians with mint jelly?

Posted by: Aviator at January 03, 2016 07:22 PM (c7vUv)

362 Chi,

If it were a good idea to cook beans previously used as pie weights, there would be recipes for chili made with toasted beans.

Old beans are hard to hydrate. Keeping a desiccant in a container of seeds for planting is recommended. Beans are an exception. I expect that oven heat would dry beans out. Unless some other chemical reaction makes up for this, I think you would have to grind beans used as pie weights before cooking.

Does anybody know how they prepare those crunchy chickpea snacks?

Posted by: KT at January 03, 2016 07:23 PM (qahv/)

363 Saudis don't fight their own wars. Advantage, Iran

Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 07:23 PM (zOTsN)

364 "MEAT IS MURDER
"

The flesh you so fancifully fry.

Is not succulent, tasty or kind!


(That song is such a lame ending to an otherwise great album)

Posted by: Lauren at January 03, 2016 07:23 PM (bYGAR)

365 Is this thing still going?
Thanks everybody for the replies - seriously, I was just goofing, so I hope nobody thinks I was a jerk.

I usually use kidney beans. Canned, at that. Sue me.

Ree Drummond? I like her, but can't watch her. She reminds me too much of a certain hateful, bitter ex - I think it's those damn cute dimples...

Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 07:24 PM (gQfxF)

366 360 "But, hey, we live with it because we get to have a governor who posts the Gonzales Flag in response to Obama saying he's going to push gun control."

*Stands up straight. God Bless Gregg Abbot*
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2016 07:22 PM (YRM5Y)
***
Hear! Hear!

God blessed Texas. Truly, He did.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 03, 2016 07:24 PM (lutOX)

367 I forgot Saving Pvt Ryan was on Spike, it's half over. The beginning is the best part.

Posted by: skip at January 03, 2016 07:24 PM (C1Suc)

368 Does anybody know how they prepare those crunchy chickpea snacks?
Posted by: KT
-----------------
Deep fryer.

Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 07:25 PM (gQfxF)

369 DON'T EAT ANYTHING WITH A FACE
Posted by: PETA


We can still sell the parts, though, right?

Posted by: Friends of Kermet at January 03, 2016 07:25 PM (ANVXm)

370 Koko never eat chick pee.

Posted by: Koko at January 03, 2016 07:26 PM (u5gzz)

371 "That will be bad, very very bad, because it will really bolster their claim about establishing The Caliphate."

Well ISIS is already claiming to be The Caliphate. Can we just let them fight each other to death?

Posted by: Lauren at January 03, 2016 07:26 PM (bYGAR)

372 Saudis don't fight their own wars. Advantage, Iran
Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 07:23 PM (zOTsN)

Yeppers, they fly their fighter jets like they drive their Lamborghinis and Ferraris....badly. As noted up thread, their maintenance of fighters is poor very poor, done by essentially slave labor and Pharoah found out what fighting with slave labor as support staff will get you.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 03, 2016 07:26 PM (kXoT0)

373 I've heard oxygen is the best hangover cure but I've never tried it. Does any moron have experience?

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 03, 2016 04:38 PM (RcpcZ)


It does help clear a morning-after headache. Go out to the shop, unscrew the cutting torch from the handle, crack the valve on the oxy cylinder, and huff oxygen out of the torch handle. Three or four lung-fulls does it, if it's going to help at all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 03, 2016 07:27 PM (cKwwS)

374
*Stands up straight. God Bless Gregg Abbot*



Amen.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at January 03, 2016 07:27 PM (+eR2D)

375 We should have never gotten into the middle of a Sunni vs Shia war

Posted by: skip at January 03, 2016 07:27 PM (C1Suc)

376 Recipe for chickpeas @ JoytheBaker: (scroll down - it's there)

http://joythebaker.com/2011/11/the-perfect-cheese-plate-2/

Posted by: Lizzy at January 03, 2016 07:27 PM (NOIQH)

377 Well ISIS is already claiming to be The Caliphate. Can we just let them fight each other to death?
Posted by: Lauren at January 03, 2016 07:26 PM (bYGAR)

One would think so, but, no. It would be very very bad--catastrophically bad for the West if Mecca and Medina change hands. If either ISIS or Iran gets those cities, it's a game changer.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 03, 2016 07:28 PM (kXoT0)

378 I once had to participate in the baby lamb castration process. Now there's something you never forget.

You can say that again...

Posted by: Mike Rowe, Dirty Jobs at January 03, 2016 07:28 PM (ANVXm)

379 "Three or four lung-fulls does it, if it's going to help at all."


Damn, dude.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2016 07:28 PM (YRM5Y)

380 The Saudis in symphony with Israel?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 03, 2016 07:29 PM (oVJmc)

381 >>>usually use kidney beans. Canned, at that. Sue me.

According to Americas test kitchen, canned is fine. Better actually than most dried beans.

I know, sacrilege! But I always use canned beans and it's nice to have somebody validate that

Posted by: Lea at January 03, 2016 07:29 PM (vmMMi)

382 Hmm.

Must be time for the 12th Imam to climb out of that well.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 03, 2016 07:29 PM (KUa85)

383 363 Saudis don't fight their own wars. Advantage, Iran
Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 07:23 PM (zOTsN)
***
Bingo.

Saudi military anthem - "Onward, Christian Soldiers"

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 03, 2016 07:30 PM (lutOX)

384 "Amen."


DG, one of the few Republicans I can give any shit about.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2016 07:30 PM (YRM5Y)

385 Chicken Marsalla for dinner. Chickens name was Bob
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee?

Sounds good.

We usually have appetizer type food for NYE. Since we were up at Dad's in Point we didn't have any. So tonight's dinner was a Reuben ball and fried cheese curds.

What's Reuben ball? It was made up by an old cook we worked w/ yrss ago. It's like a cheese ball but made w/ cream cheese. Add shredded corned beef, swiss cheese and sauerkraut. spread on a cracker and it's delish.

Bought the cheese curds yesterday in Rudolph. They were still warm when purchased. Highly recommend Wisconsin Dairy State Cheese Comp. there.


Posted by: Farmer at January 03, 2016 07:30 PM (o/90i)

386 When I joined the USAF at basic training in Texas the base was absolutely thick with Iranians, after some time I was in England we were advocating bombing them when the embassy was taken.

Posted by: skip at January 03, 2016 07:31 PM (C1Suc)

387 "The Saudis in symphony with Israel?"


Their realities are really closer together than anyone else's in the ME.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2016 07:31 PM (YRM5Y)

388 342 You see that cute innocent lamb? That's exactly like your typical Syrian refugee.

And you heartless conservative bastards want to imprison and exclude it behind the barbed wire fence of your bigoted hate! You buyin this?
Posted by: Barack Obama at January 03, 2016 07:17 PM (7EHW6)

Not at all. We want to slaughter, butcher and eat it.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 03, 2016 07:32 PM (kpqmD)

389 Saudis hire Yemenis to be their slaves, Pakistanis to be their construction workers, Phillipinas to be their nurses, Americans to be their teachers, Palestinians to be their mid level managers. And they inspire loyalty in none of them, because they treat everyone so poorly. The elite let their sons be pilots, but they are soft and spoiled and pampered. As soon as things hit the fan, all would fall away

Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 07:32 PM (zOTsN)

390 I am, like, such a total liberal, that if I lived today, "My Fair Lady" would feature Dian Fossey as Professor Higgins, and Koko as Eliza Doolittle.

Posted by: George Blowhard Shaw at January 03, 2016 07:33 PM (7EHW6)

391 Oh, and KT -
Deep fry the chick peas (don't know how long), then season immediately with whatever you desire.
S & P, cajun seasoning, caramel, whatever...

Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 07:33 PM (gQfxF)

392 Well, I'm baaaaaaack. $123.00 dollars later and my son didn't order the most expensive thing on the menu, but the seafood tower consisted of two platters on top elf each other of chilled oysters, crab legs, shrimp and an entire lobster. If he had ordered the grand seafood platter it would been so tall that it reached over his head.

And he mostly was a "sweet sixteen" (even though that;s used for girls) except when he complained about the "C" word ("C" being what he refers to as remedial "(C)hemistry.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 07:34 PM (M+RRn)

393 Fabian, baby!

Posted by: George Blowhard Shaw at January 03, 2016 07:34 PM (7EHW6)

394 DG, one of the few Republicans I can give any shit about.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2016 07:30 PM (YRM5Y)



Same here. He and my State Rep are two of the few left. My US Rep can go pound sand after voting for that horrific omnibus.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at January 03, 2016 07:35 PM (+eR2D)

395 OT:

George Will can go fuck himself.

That is all.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 03, 2016 07:35 PM (WVvzl)

396 Helpful for hangovers: Pedialyte, or make your own by looking up the WHO hydration formula. I think the one I make is a bit messed with from the original, but basically: for 8 cups water, 2 Tbsp sugar, 1/2 tsp salt, 1/2 tsp potassium salt (sold as NuSalt, for example). Mix it up and drink it down. The night before, if possible.

If you can't taste the salt at all, that seems to be a good sign that your body needs it. Ditto if it somehow seems more refreshing and satisfying than plain water, but you can't tell why. The salts are, I think, about retaining the water rather than having it just pass on through.

Posted by: Splunge at January 03, 2016 07:36 PM (iMxBJ)

397 "Not at all. We want to slaughter, butcher and eat it."


I think we know how fast that lamb would cut your throat if it had the chance.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2016 07:36 PM (YRM5Y)

398 Mmmmm FS, that seafood platter sounds great! Happy bday to your boy!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at January 03, 2016 07:36 PM (+eR2D)

399 Fenelonspoke- sounds like it came out well

Posted by: skip at January 03, 2016 07:36 PM (C1Suc)

400 They only thing preventing Iran from over running Saudi is US. And who knows if the JEF would stop them. I don't think he would

Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 07:36 PM (zOTsN)

401 His name was Colin ... snort and giggle.
The line between pets and food is an uncomfortable one, I'll grant.

My farm-raised Grannie Jessie (who kept chickens in her suburban backyard during the Depression for eggs and meat) did tell us that when she was a girl, she and her brother and sister would have to stop going down to the pig-pen in late summer.

Because the pigs were friendly and intelligent and altogether charming ... and on a Pennsylvania farm at the turn of the last century, they were intended to provide hams, cutlets and bacon for the winter.

Being sentimental about animals is a luxury good.

In desperation, anything goes. The family of James Reed, marooned in the high Sierras in 1846 as part of the Donner-Reed party, ate their pet dog.

Early in 1945. the extended family of Americans interned in the Philippines - who were facing starvation -- absolutely revolted when the camp doctor killed their pet dog. They had taken from their own meager rations to keep the dog fed for four years.

The adult children of the elderly couple who had kept the dog in internment were outraged. They couldn't prevent the dog being killed, but they deliberately contaminated the dog's body with disinfectant, so that it couldn't be used to eke out the starvation rations .

Complicated ethically? Yes, certainly.

Posted by: CeliaHayes at January 03, 2016 07:37 PM (95iDF)

402 "If either ISIS or Iran gets those cities, it's a game changer."

Wasn't ISIS bitching about people going to Mecca to kiss the rock a while back?

Posted by: Lauren at January 03, 2016 07:37 PM (bYGAR)

403 Saudi pilots all receive training in San Antonio

Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 07:38 PM (zOTsN)

404 "I don't think he would"

Me either. Useless.


Israel and/or Egypt might, though.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2016 07:39 PM (YRM5Y)

405 ThunderB- so I guess they took the place of all the Iranians I wrote about above

Posted by: skip at January 03, 2016 07:40 PM (C1Suc)

406 Bad news: Denver is on top again

Ryan Clark is a Redskin now so the Steelers will be bringing all their spleens.

Posted by: DaveA at January 03, 2016 07:40 PM (DL2i+)

407 Must be time for the 12th Imam to climb out of that well.

Posted by: naturalfake


There is an Imam in the well.

Posted by: Lassie at January 03, 2016 07:40 PM (FkBIv)

408 Panthers! 38-10, 15-1, NFL South Champs. Home field throughout playoffs.


Oh YEAH!

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 03, 2016 07:41 PM (jJRIy)

409
Well Broncs win, its a good thing too, because the bye week seems about the only game they might win in the playoffs.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 03, 2016 07:42 PM (ODxAs)

410 Next question:

Chicken pot pie.
Do I really need to blind bake the bottom crust?
I usually just throw whatever I have in the pie celery, carrots, onions, sometimes potato, peas - but how do I make the best "gravy?" Canned cream-of-whatever soup + 1 egg has been my tradition, but I'm looking for something better.
A basic bechemel? Help?

Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 07:42 PM (gQfxF)

411 407 Must be time for the 12th Imam to climb out of that well.

Posted by: naturalfake

There is an Imam in the well.
Posted by: Lassie at January 03, 2016 07:40 PM (FkBIv)
***
in the well,
And there, he's closer still to hell
still to hell
And bides his time, as merry as can be
And never, ever, thinks of me.


(To the tune of "Fare Thee Well")

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 03, 2016 07:42 PM (lutOX)

412 Apropos of nothing, rockets: "We wanted to see the world spared another conflict such as Germany had just been through, and we felt that only by surrendering such a weapon to people who are guided by the Bible could such an assurance to the world be best secured."

-- Wernher von Braun

Didn't realize he spoke so deeply.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun

Posted by: t-bird at January 03, 2016 07:42 PM (ANVXm)

413 Saudis have received pilot training in San Antonio since the 80s at least. I don't think they have ever stopped.

Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 07:43 PM (zOTsN)

414 Y'all can go to hell, but the Chiefs are going to Texas

Posted by: dr. h. lecter at January 03, 2016 07:43 PM (6FqZa)

415 leftover rice + leftover ginger carrots in butter + leftover what's left in the bag of baby spinach + 1 can Campbell's Chicken & Rice Soup = dinner ...

Posted by: Adriane the Food Critic ... at January 03, 2016 07:43 PM (AoK0a)

416 That probably should have been a Crockett sock. Ah well.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 03, 2016 07:44 PM (6FqZa)

417 And here's my contribution for some alcoholic seasonal fare, perhaps before Epiphany which is Wednesday

Hot Buttered Rum Punch-made in slow cooker

Add more of less rum depending on your taste

3/4 cup packed brown sugar
4 cups water
1/4 tsp salt
1/2 tsp freshly grated nutmeg
1/2 tsp ground cinnamon
1/2 tsp ground allspice
3/4 tsp ground cloves
2 (1 lb) cans jellied cranberry sauce
4 cups (1 quart) pineapple juice
1 cup rum
cinnamon sticks
butter

In a slow cooker, combine brown sugar, water, salt, nutmeg, cinnamon, allspice and cloves. Break up cranberry sauce with a fork. Add cranberry sauce, pineapple juice and rum to cooker, Cover
and heat on LOW for 3-4 hours. Serve hot in individuals mugs with cinnamon sticks. Dot each mug with butter.


Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 07:45 PM (M+RRn)

418 416 That probably should have been a Crockett sock. Ah well.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 03, 2016 07:44 PM (6FqZa)

What connection does Miami Vice have to the Chiefs?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 03, 2016 07:45 PM (kpqmD)

419 TB, Saudis fly F-15s and Typhoons. Maybe still some Tornadoes.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2016 07:46 PM (YRM5Y)

420 16 That probably should have been a Crockett sock. Ah well.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo
----------------
Tubbs would've been even better.

Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 07:46 PM (gQfxF)

421 This thread smells of spoiled lamb. And feet.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 03, 2016 07:47 PM (yxw0r)

422 Yeah, Ernest Tubb.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 03, 2016 07:48 PM (FkBIv)

423 Late to the thread, been watching the Donkeys pull another one out their ass.
Hangover cure - A warm glass of gin with a hair in it.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 03, 2016 07:49 PM (9iR5/)

424 That looks great, FenelonSpoke.

I also want to make Wassail this year. Also, I want to go wassailing. I've decided that protestants should get back on board with the 12 days of Christmas. In the spirit of that, we're leaving the tree up til Epiphany.

Posted by: Lauren at January 03, 2016 07:49 PM (LzzEz)

425 So the Broncolios get the #1 seed? I stand by my earlier statement, ain't nobody in that Conference prepared to win the whole enchilada.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 03, 2016 07:50 PM (Dj0WE)

426 You "Miami Vice" people.....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2016 07:50 PM (YRM5Y)

427 What connection does Miami Vice have to the Chiefs?
Posted by: Insomniac
-------------- Heh
Damn. You have to be pretty quick around these parts...

Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 07:50 PM (gQfxF)

428 Yes Ricardo but they all started on T 37 and T 38 like everybody else. Saudi military is a fucking joke. They can't even defeat Yemen

Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 07:50 PM (zOTsN)

429 I wassailing then I dropped anchor.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 03, 2016 07:50 PM (FkBIv)

430 Which Gulf State has a female pilot?

Posted by: fluffy at January 03, 2016 07:51 PM (AfsKp)

431 426 You "Miami Vice" people.....
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2016 07:50 PM (YRM5Y)
***
I remember when we reached Peak 80's - when Phil Collins was on Miami Vice.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 03, 2016 07:52 PM (lutOX)

432 Frank Zappa was on Miami Vice.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 03, 2016 07:52 PM (FkBIv)

433 "Which Gulf State has a female pilot?"

Phuckistan?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2016 07:53 PM (YRM5Y)

434 I remember Ted Nugent as a villain on Miami Vice, so there.
I think he got exploded.

Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 07:53 PM (gQfxF)

435 They only thing preventing Iran from over running Saudi is US. And who knows if the JEF would stop them. I don't think he would
Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 07:36 PM (zOTsN)

Yup...and it's all Jimmy Carter's fault from 1978/79. That idiot didn't know what hell he was unleashing on the world when he abandoned the Shah. There is a special place in hell for that scumbag.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 03, 2016 07:53 PM (ej1L0)

436 This thread smells of spoiled lamb. And feet.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 03, 2016 07:47 PM (yxw0r)


That's not a bug, that's a feeture.

Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at January 03, 2016 07:54 PM (7EHW6)

437 433 AssHatistan. Garden spot of the Middle East.

Posted by: antisocialist at January 03, 2016 07:55 PM (cDs+4)

438 Chicken pot pie.

Do I really need to blind bake the bottom crust?

I usually just throw whatever I have in the pie celery, carrots,
onions, sometimes potato, peas - but how do I make the best "gravy?"
Canned cream-of-whatever soup + 1 egg has been my tradition, but I'm
looking for something better.

A basic bechemel? Help?

Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 07:42 PM (gQfxF)



I don't blind bake my crust for pot pie.

As for the "gravy" I use chicken broth (usually I'll boil the chicken used for the pie in water with most of the veg, salt pepper and spices and use that as the broth). I mix 2 Tbsp of cornstarch with about 2 cups of broth then pour that over the meat and veg. It's usually enough to thicken.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at January 03, 2016 07:56 PM (+eR2D)

439 Posted by: Lauren at January 03, 2016 07:49 PM (LzzEz)

We always keep our tree up till Epiphany. We have a very simple tree this year, but I like the lights. Except for really garish displays (Blinking colored lights make me nauseous if I look at them too long) I love Christmas lights and I'm always sorry to see them go because they remind me of the light that shines in the darkness. :^)

Do you have a recipe for wassail?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 07:56 PM (M+RRn)

440 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 03, 2016 07:58 PM (KCxzN)

441 They only thing preventing Iran from over running Saudi is US. And who knows if the JEF would stop them. I don't think he would
Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 07:36 PM (zOTsN)


Shhhoosh...don't say that out loud the iranians might hear you?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 03, 2016 07:58 PM (DUoqb)

442 Looks like the Saudi Royal Air Force learns to fly the F-15 at Mountain Home AFB, Idaho

Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 07:58 PM (zOTsN)

443 Major Mariam Al Mansouri is from the UAE and she led a mission against ISIS.

Posted by: fluffy at January 03, 2016 07:58 PM (AfsKp)

444 I never eat the face.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 03, 2016 07:18 PM (FkBIv)


But soused hogs jowls are a capital feed.

Posted by: "Lucky" Jack Aubrey at January 03, 2016 08:00 PM (q2o38)

445 Lauren and Felenon are the best of the Horde

Posted by: Vendette at January 03, 2016 08:00 PM (fdiBP)

446 "Mountain Home AFB, Idaho"


That would be an F-15 base.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2016 08:01 PM (YRM5Y)

447 Good night, all!

Posted by: Vendette at January 03, 2016 08:02 PM (fdiBP)

448 Posted by: Vendette at January 03, 2016 08:00 PM (fdiBP)

Thanks...Ummm..maybe I better not ask best at what? ;^)

I know. It was the recipe with alcohol that did it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 08:03 PM (M+RRn)

449

Given that ISIS

1. Doesn't have an Air Force, and

2. Doesn't have anti aircraft weaponry

Flying a mission against ISIS is something even a Saudi pilot can handle. The only plane shot down over ISIS territory was shot down by the Turks. Who do their own fighting

Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 08:03 PM (zOTsN)

450 so the iranians are going to end up with that super air base we built in SA during the gulf war? and the super embassy compound in tehran? anything else we can do for them?

Posted by: muttering vikings fan at January 03, 2016 08:04 PM (8aOqE)

451 Exactly. They fly trainers in San Antonio and F-15s at Mountain Home

Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 08:05 PM (zOTsN)

452 You don't start in the F-15. You have to fly a trainer first

Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 08:06 PM (zOTsN)

453 ugh, embassy in bagdad

Posted by: muttering vikings fan at January 03, 2016 08:06 PM (8aOqE)

454 2. Doesn't have anti aircraft weaponry
------
Au contraire, Ms ThunderB. The captured a crap load of AA stuff from Syrian AFB's that they over ran. That's how they brought down that Jordanian pilot that they burned alive.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 03, 2016 08:06 PM (9iR5/)

455 445
Lauren and Felenon are the best of the Horde


Posted by: Vendette at January 03, 2016 08:00 PM (fdiBP)

Hey! What about us?

Posted by: MACHINE LACE WIGS FOR SALE at January 03, 2016 08:06 PM (uZNvH)

456 I know. It was the recipe with alcohol that did it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 08:03 PM (M+RRn)



No.


Now I'm done.

Posted by: Vendette at January 03, 2016 08:07 PM (fdiBP)

457 395 OT:

George Will can go fuck himself.

That is all.
Posted by: Kreplach at January 03, 2016 07:35 PM (WVvzl)



Whining about Trump or pushing his love of legalizing all the criminal aliens in the country?

Posted by: buzzion at January 03, 2016 08:09 PM (z/Ubi)

458 445 Lauren and Felenon are the best of the Horde
Posted by: Vendette
--------------------
I'm not brave enough to state something so bold as that, but, yeah they're pretty great, huh?
You ain't exactly chopped liver yourself, y'know.

Whether she knows it or not, Fen has pushed me through a pretty tough time.
And I credit Lauren with opening my eyes on a certain issue. Changed my perspective on what is important in life. LIFE being the key word in that sentence.

I really do appreciate this place.

Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 08:10 PM (gQfxF)

459 Well I'm calling it, my cats have been herded to the basement, put my last dose of eye ointment in so everything is blurry again.
Good night horde and stay safe.

Posted by: Skip at January 03, 2016 08:10 PM (C1Suc)

460 As I think about it maybe it was not appropriate to put a recipe for "hot buttered rum punch" in a thread on handover remedies. LOL

------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks, Vendette. I was just pulling your leg. I wasn'treally suggesting that you want hot buttered rum punch.

May you be blessed this New Year.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 08:11 PM (M+RRn)

461 Barky has delivered stern warning to the Saudis to deescalate this situation and maintain diplomacy. Saudi told him to go fark himself apparently -- get Reggie'd I'd guess.

If Saudi and Iran could kill each other off without getting the rest of the world involved, it would be wonderful, but it ain't gonna happen.

If Saudi gets destabilized, shit gets real. Hope it holds together long enough until Barky is out. But if Hillary gets it, it's gone anyway.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 03, 2016 08:11 PM (dvuhZ)

462 Iran would not cake walk thru Saudi Arabia...for not other reason than i don't think Israel would stand for that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 03, 2016 08:11 PM (DUoqb)

463 *blush* Thanks guys. And Chi, I'm glad to read that!

Posted by: Lauren at January 03, 2016 08:11 PM (GZ6Pf)

464 You have to be trained to use the anti aircraft weaponry. Not exactly sure how the Jordian pilot came to earth.

Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 08:12 PM (zOTsN)

465 Thanks, Vendette. I was just pulling your leg. I wasn'treally suggesting that you want hot buttered rum punch.



May you be blessed this New Year.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 08:11 PM (M+RRn)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RGiVwM2m18

Posted by: Vendette at January 03, 2016 08:14 PM (fdiBP)

466 Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 08:10 PM (gQfxF

Thanks, Chi; I'm glad if whatever I said helped. I think that's one of the great things about this site. We can hopefully help each other through difficult places. People have helped me a good deal too.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 08:14 PM (M+RRn)

467 395 OT:

George Will can go fuck himself.

That is all.
Posted by: Kreplach at January 03, 2016 07:35 PM (WVvzl)


Whining about Trump or pushing his love of legalizing all the criminal aliens in the country?
Posted by: buzzion at January 03, 2016 08:09 PM (z/Ubi)


Neither. Cubs fan.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 03, 2016 08:15 PM (Dj0WE)

468 Free Beacon says Jordanian pilot was shot down by friendly fire from a UAE pilot. Not too competent

Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 08:15 PM (zOTsN)

469 "Do you have a recipe for wassail"

I was planning on trying Alton Brown's recipe. He usually does right by me.

Posted by: Lauren at January 03, 2016 08:16 PM (GZ6Pf)

470 Not exactly sure how the Jordian pilot came to earth.
Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 08:12 PM (zOTsN)

Supposedly by friendly fire and that fire was supposedly from the "Female" UAE Pilot who was flying cover

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 03, 2016 08:16 PM (DUoqb)

471 464
You have to be trained to use the anti aircraft weaponry. Not exactly sure how the Jordian pilot came to earth.

Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 08:12 PM (zOTsN)
------I think they wound up with a lot of fire and forget Russian stuff. Let me go look it up.

Posted by: Old Blue at January 03, 2016 08:16 PM (9iR5/)

472 Free Beacon says Jordanian pilot was shot down by friendly fire from a UAE pilot. Not too competent
Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 08:15 PM (zOTsN)


Not A UAE pilot but the aforementioned Female hot shot

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 03, 2016 08:17 PM (DUoqb)

473 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 03, 2016 08:14 PM (M+RRn)





The best of the Horde.

Posted by: Vendette at January 03, 2016 08:17 PM (fdiBP)

474 Chi, I use an oil crust and generally for the sauce I make gravy with flour and the chicken broth. I have been known to put potato flakes in as well.

I cook the carcass of the chicken with sauteed onions and celery and such in the pressure cooker, but I am told simmering it for a long time also works well.
Some of the recipes call to leave a hole in the crust to top off the gravy but I never found that to be needed.

Also, the older recipes are just chicken, gravy and pie crust, no veggies, I like to add veggies though.

Finally, I don't cook with corn starch because I was raised on flour gravy.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 03, 2016 08:17 PM (q2o38)

475 Free Beacon says Jordanian pilot was shot down by friendly fire from a UAE pilot. Not too competent
Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 08:15 PM (zOTsN)


Not A UAE pilot but the aforementioned Female hot shot
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 03, 2016 08:17 PM (DUoqb)

Who was grounded after that incident

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 03, 2016 08:18 PM (DUoqb)

476 You have to be trained to use the anti aircraft weaponry. Not exactly sure how the Jordian pilot came to earth.
Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 08:12 PM (zOTsN)

The "magic BB" theory....just spray and pray. Even idiots like ISIS can get lucky.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 03, 2016 08:19 PM (ej1L0)

477 In either case, ISIS hasn't shot down a thing

Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 08:20 PM (zOTsN)

478 Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 08:10 PM (gQfxF)




Awesomeness is brought to you by Chi.

Posted by: Vendette at January 03, 2016 08:20 PM (fdiBP)

479 NGU, I hope you're doing well.

Posted by: Vendette at January 03, 2016 08:22 PM (fdiBP)

480 "ISIS hasn't shot down a thing"

Speaking of that, did you see the report that Putin was behind that exploding plane that was blamed on ISIS?

Don't know if I believe it, but I can definitely see him going all Captain Sisko on his own people.

Posted by: Lauren at January 03, 2016 08:22 PM (GZ6Pf)

481 Vendette
Memorial Day, 3 years ago.
Doesn't know me from Adam. I'm a random Moron (or, maybe a moron).
Mentioned she was going to Arlington that day (won me over right there!), and when I mentioned that Dad was there, she offered to go pay respect.

I will never forget that.

Posted by: Chi at January 03, 2016 08:22 PM (gQfxF)

482 When Barky has a horrible hang over from booze and bath house donations we used to jam a coke colonic up his bung hole and hope for the best. But, then doctor Dean Metro'd his rectum and upon completion diagnosed that barky was suffering from acute alcohol with draw syndrome. So I would quickly mix a 50 -50 mixture of vodka a gin then squeeze the colonic bag to force it in. It nearly started a fire when barky's bung hole spewed it all over. Dr Dean then suggested a 60 - 40 mixture of valium and crack. That seems to be the best mixture yet. America is mucked but DC is a great place to get coke.

Posted by: Barney F. at January 03, 2016 08:23 PM (FJH98)

483 NGU, I hope you're doing well.
Posted by: Vendette at January 03, 2016 08:22 PM (fdiBP)

Outstanding

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 03, 2016 08:23 PM (DUoqb)

484 America is mucked but DC is a great place to get coke.

Posted by: Barney F. at January 03, 2016 08:23 PM (FJH9


Amen

Posted by: Mayor Barion at January 03, 2016 08:25 PM (8aOqE)

485 Now comes the part where the Green Bay Packers either get pillaged and
plundered by the Vikings, or ship them all back out to
Lutefisk Lake. These days it's a toss-up. Bad year to lose Jordy
Nelson.


Oh, sorry, food thread. Um, pig skin. Maybe that'll cover it.

Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at January 03, 2016 08:25 PM (dFi94)

486 My physical anthropology professor spoke of tool use among animals, specifically primates. he projected a photo of a chimp using a stick to probe a termite mound.

His comment? "This isn't tool use."

The next slide was of the space shuttle.

His comment? "THIS is tool use."


he was worng, of course. Lower animals use tools all the time - in the same ways that humans use them. The point is not whether lower animals use tools or not but whether that makes one bit of difference. It doesn't. Friggin dung beetles form shit into balls so that they can roll them home. If 1000 humans were given shovels (clearly tools) and told to transport snow a long way from one point to another the great bulk of the humans would pick the snow up in shovels. A few would make snowballs and roll them to the destination ... but probably not too many. Does this mean that dung beetles are more human than the idiot humans who used the tool - the shovel - to make the task as difficult as possible? No. It just means that a good number of humans are idiots who can't solve a simple problem that dung beetles have. But that is no argument that medical experiments should be performed on those humans instead of the dung beetles, just because they failed the "roll test".

There are ants that farm. Big deal. When they're proud my house they still get exterminated with RAID (assuming, of course, that I lived around these ants). The ants can farm there little hearts out in ant heaven.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 03, 2016 08:26 PM (zc3Db)

487 I forgot about the civilian aircraft. That was taken down by a suicide bomber using bombs concealed in soda cans.


Not a shoot down

Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 08:27 PM (zOTsN)

488 I forgot about the civilian aircraft. That was taken down by a suicide bomber using bombs concealed in soda cans.


Not a shoot down
Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 08:27 PM (zOTsN)

I thought it was a baggage handler using soda cans

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 03, 2016 08:29 PM (DUoqb)

489 woot, fake punt

Posted by: muttering vikings fan at January 03, 2016 08:30 PM (8aOqE)

490 I thought baggage handler got the cans on the aircraft but someone had to be on the aircraft to detonate them

Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 08:31 PM (zOTsN)

491 Saudi breaks relations with iran and Fredo says in Israel? Hum?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 03, 2016 08:31 PM (DUoqb)

492 Spys on israel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 03, 2016 08:31 PM (DUoqb)

493 Where'd everyone go?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 03, 2016 08:36 PM (DUoqb)

494 Just brought home a 110 pound Italian Mastiff, like half an hour ago, now trying to introduce her to our 3 cats before bedtime. We had no plans of adopting a dog for years, but we know a guy, his son had to get rid of her, and I struck while the iron was hot. I had previously been holding out for a Husky, years down the road, but this dog is sweet, gets along with cats, and will be my wife's running companion in the mornings (that's the plan, anyway). It's been 30 years since I owned a dog.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 03, 2016 08:36 PM (2cS/G)

495 Chargers choke in the end. That's the team I know.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 03, 2016 08:36 PM (1ijHg)

496 Animals have the Right to get in my belly.

Posted by: The Political NOM at January 03, 2016 08:38 PM (vBeA5)

497 Is it a brindle Lincontf? We had a rescue dog that looked like the Italian Mastiff in the breed book.

Posted by: PaleRider at January 03, 2016 08:39 PM (chkUd)

498 Latest GOPe theory: When Hillary wins NH, that will lock it up for her, and the base voters will come to their senses and flock to a nice establishment candidate like Marco or Jeb!, who can fix it, of course. Trump will flame out once voters realize Hillary is going to win the nom.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 03, 2016 08:40 PM (dvuhZ)

499 Lauren and Felenon are the best of the Horde

Posted by: Vendette



You know there's a gif on the sidebar showing the linear progression from chimp to man, captioned "Evolution"

Beneath there is the same progression jumbled together captioned "AoS commenters"

Lauren and FS may be the most highly evolved, that does NOT make them best! That is a subjective value judgment. There are many crude, rough around the edges people here that are valued by those of us who are not quite at the Cro-Magnon level.

Posted by: Koko at January 03, 2016 08:43 PM (7EHW6)

500 Pale Rider, I'd say she's "Gun Metal Gray", but I think they call her "Blue" in the guides. A slight brindle pattern visible on her hind end, but basically blue/gray.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 03, 2016 08:43 PM (2cS/G)

501 Attended the funeral today of a very special lady who touched so, so many lives.

RIP Elizabeth "Hug Lady" Laird.
15 January 1932 - 24 December 2015.

http://tinyurl.com/zuc3ydo

Posted by: SMFH at January 03, 2016 08:45 PM (/ROTj)

502 Sounds pretty Liconntf. Our dog was a light tan color with darker brindle striping.

Posted by: PaleRider at January 03, 2016 08:50 PM (chkUd)

503 "Meat is yummy"

bumper stick I saw on the 1-5 in Encinitas, CA about 13 years ago.




Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 03, 2016 08:53 PM (1ijHg)

504 That's not a tool. THIS is a tool.

Posted by: Tool Dundee at January 03, 2016 08:54 PM (FkBIv)

505 I remember Ted Nugent as a villain on Miami Vice, so there.

I think he got exploded.


Shot by Crockett after armor plate briefcase block. The 1st 4 seasons are on Hulu.

Posted by: DaveA at January 03, 2016 08:54 PM (DL2i+)

506 No Sunday Night Cheerleaders?

Posted by: buzzion at January 03, 2016 08:57 PM (z/Ubi)

507 SMFH so sorry

Posted by: chemjeff at January 03, 2016 08:58 PM (uZNvH)

508 Ring Carson for tea.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 03, 2016 08:58 PM (mxCgt)

509 3/3 after one

Posted by: muttering vikings fan at January 03, 2016 08:59 PM (8aOqE)

510 Don't be sorry, chemjeff.

She's hugging the troops who didn't come home now.

Posted by: SMFH at January 03, 2016 09:01 PM (/ROTj)

511 Late to the thread. Chi, if no one else has said it, those beans you used as pie crust weights are now good for that purpose only.

As a native Texan I will say that chili is what you want it to be. Personally I don't like beans in it, but with a bunch of kids I appreciate the stretching ability.

Secret ingredient. Tequila. Depends on how much you're making, but a shot per gallon should work. Remember to put the tequila in the chili too.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 03, 2016 09:02 PM (kTF2Z)

512 Ted Nugent is correct. Marxists are subhuman mongrels. In order to neutralize them, we need conservatives ruthless enough to use the same tactics against them.

Gorilla warfare.

Posted by: Koko at January 03, 2016 09:05 PM (7EHW6)

513 510
She's hugging the troops who didn't come home now.
Posted by: SMFH at January 03, 2016 09:01 PM (/ROTj)


.

Posted by: rickl at January 03, 2016 09:08 PM (sdi6R)

514 >>>Ring Carson for tea.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 03, 2016 08:58 PM (mxCgt)<<<

I'll stab you if you call me to bring you tea.

Posted by: Ben Carson at January 03, 2016 09:09 PM (H9MG5)

515 So, will the Saudi/ Iran thing that's starting result in SMOD?

/still waiting you see...

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at January 03, 2016 09:09 PM (9JJgN)

516 She's very pretty, and two of my cats are already tolerating being in the same room with her, the other one, the Siamese, is still hiding under the guest bed.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 03, 2016 09:10 PM (2cS/G)

517 413 Saudis have received pilot training in San Antonio since the 80s at least. I don't think they have ever stopped.
Posted by: ThunderB at January 03, 2016 07:43 PM (zOTsN)

Yeah,back in the day Prince Bandar was buddies with a certain set here.

Posted by: stace at January 03, 2016 09:10 PM (CoX6k)

518 Sorry to hijack.. but mom is back in the hospital. She began hallucinating and is very confused. She has been fighting another UTI. It's breaking my heart to see her like this. Please pray for her. My brother and I will be meeting with her social worker on Friday. We have to decide what to do going forward. Can't keep sending her back to ER with every infection. It's probably the beginning of the end for her. I just want to do the right thing for her.

Posted by: jewells45 at January 03, 2016 09:13 PM (5fvBZ)

519 ((hugs)) to you jewells4.

Please hang in there. I know how awful this sort of thing can be; I went through it with both of my parents.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at January 03, 2016 09:18 PM (9JJgN)

520 Prayers for your mom, jewells ...

Posted by: Adriane the Food Critic ... at January 03, 2016 09:19 PM (AoK0a)

521 Thoughts and prayers, Jewell.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 03, 2016 09:27 PM (2cS/G)

522 jewells

Posted by: chemjeff at January 03, 2016 09:27 PM (uZNvH)

523 She's just been saying crazy stuff.. seeing things that weren't there. My heart is breaking. I'm hoping at least this drug they are giving her (and it's a good one) will get her thru this.. but then we have to decide.. how long do we do this? She'll get another and another. I knew these fucking UTI's would be the death of her.

Posted by: jewells45 at January 03, 2016 09:33 PM (5fvBZ)

524 Diet? Not enough cranberry? Too much sugar? Tweak insulin levels?

Posted by: Adriane the Food Critic ... at January 03, 2016 09:36 PM (AoK0a)

525 If you've ever kept chickens, there's no moral or sentimental obstacles to killing them. They're so damned stupid, and more than a little bit spiteful and mean-spirited when they're not being complete cowards. They have the same combination of helplessness, willfulness, and blank incomprehension as the average Democrat voter.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 03, 2016 09:37 PM (k+K+t)

526 Chi,
here is my favorite chili recipe (if this doesn't work then Chi will do the barrel for me )
CHILE VERDE CON CARNE (BEEF GREEN CHILI)
adapted from The Homesick Texan
**NOTE: You can use 2-16oz jars of a good quality Salsa Verde in place of the chili's and tomatillo's and cut ½ -1 cup of broth. This also allows you to pick your heat level on the spicy scale**
Ingredients:
1 lb roasted Hatch chiles with skins removed (can sub a can of roasted chili's)
3 pounds chuck roast, cut into 1-inch cubes or ground
2 teaspoons kosher salt
2 teaspoons black pepper
1 tablespoon bacon grease or vegetable oil
1 medium onion, diced
6 cloves garlic, minced
2 cups chicken broth
12 oz Shiner Bock
½ lbs fresh tomatillos, husks removed and roughly chopped (again, you can used canned or a jar of salsa verde)
1 cup chopped cilantro
2 tablespoon ground cumin
2 tablespoon dried oregano
1/4 teaspoon ground allspice
2 tablespoons masa harina (this is corn flour for tortilla's, can sub fine corn meal)
freshly squeezed lime juice to taste
Sour cream, for serving
Cilantro, for serving
Warm tortillas, for serving
Tortilla chips, for serving
Sprinkle the beef with the salt and pepper. Heat the bacon grease or oil on medium-low in a large heavy pot, such as a Dutch oven, and then working in batches brown the beef on all sides. This should take about 5-7 minutes per batch.
Once the beef has been browned, leaving the heat on medium-low, add the onions to the pot and cook until translucent, about 5 minutes. If you use ground beef, drain the fat first. Add the garlic and cook for another 30 seconds.
Pour the chicken broth and beer into the pot, and then scrap the bottom of the pot to incorporate all the cooked bits into the broth. Add the chopped chiles, the cooked beef, the tomatillos, half of the chopped cilantro, cumin, oregano, and allspice to the pot.
Bring to a boil and then turn the heat down to low and simmer uncovered for 3-4 hours or until the beef is fork tender. At this time, add the remaining cilantro and then taste and adjust seasonings. Mix the masa harina with 1/4 cup of water and then stir into the pot until well combined. Continue to cook for 30 more minutes and then add the lime juice. Serve warm with sour cream, cilantro, warm tortillas and/or tortilla chips.

Posted by: lindafell de spair at January 03, 2016 09:40 PM (xVgrA)

527 Just got here but best hangover cure is a big tall cold can of coconut water.

Posted by: rokshox at January 03, 2016 09:40 PM (Ap82b)

528 Adriane.. many factors. She has small pockets in her bladder where urine just sits plus she can't void very well anymore. Too much urine just sits in her bladder and that's how the infections start. We tried a foley cath but it didn't help. Most antibiotics just aren't working anymore.

Posted by: jewells45 at January 03, 2016 09:41 PM (5fvBZ)

529 >>>She's just been saying crazy stuff.. seeing things
that weren't there. My heart is breaking. I'm hoping at least this
drug they are giving her (and it's a good one) will get her thru this..
but then we have to decide.. how long do we do this? She'll get another
and another. I knew these fucking UTI's would be the death of her.

Posted by: jewells45 at January 03, 2016 09:33 PM (5fvBZ)<<<

My grandmother went through something similar in Sept. She's fought UTIs for several years. In Sept her psychiatrist made an adjustment to one of her meds, a couple weeks later, she just went off the wall one afternoon. Seeing things, having conversations with herself (in her voice, and speaking for whoever she thought she heard in her head). She was admitted to a geriatric psych unit for three weeks (though they were absolutely no help), had adjustments to her meds, and though the hallucinations stopped, she's been diagnosed with vascular dementia, has real problems with her memory, and is no where close to where she was before the hospitalization.

Posted by: Moron who's sorry to hear about your mom at January 03, 2016 09:42 PM (H9MG5)

530 @529.. I'm so sorry. It's just so heart wrenching isn't it?

Posted by: jewells45 at January 03, 2016 09:51 PM (5fvBZ)

531 I use kefir, take some gulps before bed to settle the stomach, usually works.

Better remedy is to not drink as much, and drink plenty of water.

Posted by: e buzz at January 03, 2016 09:55 PM (1CJDP)

532 Take my hand. She's the nutty muffin man.

Posted by: Enter Bernie Sanders Man at January 03, 2016 09:56 PM (7EHW6)

533 jewells45 at January 03, 2016 09:41 PM (5fvBZ)

Prayers for Strength & Wisdom ...

Posted by: Adriane the Food Critic ... at January 03, 2016 09:57 PM (AoK0a)

534 >>>@529.. I'm so sorry. It's just so heart wrenching isn't it?

Posted by: jewells45 at January 03, 2016 09:51 PM (5fvBZ)<<<

It's been tricky. Right now I'm the one watching out for her, as she can't be left alone, and it would kill her to take her out of her house.

She's never been a strong woman when it comes to things like this, so when she gets hit with another UTI (she's been diagnosed with 3 since the incident in Sept) she seems to regress a bit further. We're worried she'll have another perfect storm of UTI, meds, and dementia that'll force our hand and leave me unable to handle the care anymore.

I'll be thinking of you and your mom though, and keep hope for the best for the both of you.

Posted by: Moron who's sorry to hear about your mom at January 03, 2016 09:58 PM (H9MG5)

535 Prayers for your mom jewells45!!

Posted by: lindafell de spair at January 03, 2016 10:20 PM (xVgrA)

536 all smells like Anise to me

Posted by: saf at January 04, 2016 06:18 PM (qKiBT)

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