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Overnight Open Thread (12-28-2015)
Among the US State Department Accomplishments for 2015: "Bringing Peace, Security to Syria."
Gun Control Movement to NBA: We Need Your Help
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Affluenza Teen Captured in Mexico With Mother
Bah Humbug Economists Don't Practice What They Preach
The Wall Street Journal's survey of economists shows they largely don't practice what the naysayers preach: 51 of 54 respondents said they bought loved ones gifts; the other three initially said they didn't, but later admitted they did.
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Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:16 PM (w57Sr)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2015 11:17 PM (9YDUz)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:17 PM (w57Sr)
Posted by: Pierrer3312 at December 28, 2015 11:17 PM (74kfZ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:17 PM (w57Sr)
Posted by: Arson Wells at December 28, 2015 11:17 PM (UnJ7w)
Last time I saw a phone in that many pieces I got my ass beat for making it that way.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 28, 2015 11:17 PM (YJmuy)
Posted by: Hanoverfist at December 28, 2015 11:17 PM (kH8TU)
Posted by: Ed Anger at December 28, 2015 11:18 PM (RcpcZ)
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 28, 2015 11:18 PM (gyKtp)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at December 28, 2015 11:18 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2015 11:18 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:18 PM (w57Sr)
Posted by: DC in River City at December 28, 2015 11:18 PM (e+1S5)
Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2015 11:19 PM (zt+N6)
This won't end well.
Might be funny, but the ending will turn ugly.
Posted by: Pierrer3312 at December 28, 2015 11:19 PM (74kfZ)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2015 11:19 PM (9YDUz)
Lounging on the couch demanding Mrs. Maet to bring him fruitcake while playing with RC Car
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at December 28, 2015 11:19 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: buzzion
It would make for a great ambush video.
Breitbart would do such a thing.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2015 11:20 PM (9YDUz)
Posted by: Scottst at December 28, 2015 11:20 PM (/8lAA)
Posted by: Mordineus at December 28, 2015 11:21 PM (Z/Rg8)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 28, 2015 11:21 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: BacktoGA at December 28, 2015 11:21 PM (/22Vh)
Posted by: Corona at December 28, 2015 11:21 PM (ragzU)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2015 11:20 PM (9YDUz)
But how would they involve Trump?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:22 PM (w57Sr)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread: The Toast Awake ns at December 28, 2015 11:22 PM (RrDm2)
Who did we piss off today?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:18 PM (w57Sr)
***
Tnails*Why, just everybody, but not too worried about it.
*Buffs nails*
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 28, 2015 11:22 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2015 11:22 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 28, 2015 11:23 PM (DLIIY)
*Buffs nails*
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 28, 2015 11:22 PM (YLidQ)
Pretty standard really.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:23 PM (w57Sr)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2015 11:23 PM (9YDUz)
Posted by: BacktoGA at December 28, 2015 11:23 PM (/22Vh)
Posted by: some annoying little kid at December 28, 2015 11:23 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:23 PM (MQEz6)
Got turned down for many a date in high school because I was curled up in a fetal position clutching my balls and the girl thought I had hung up on her.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at December 28, 2015 11:23 PM (Z7G74)
Posted by: Sharkman at December 28, 2015 11:24 PM (t8P62)
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at December 28, 2015 11:24 PM (dPpmC)
Posted by: Methos at December 28, 2015 11:25 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 28, 2015 11:25 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Blano at December 28, 2015 11:25 PM (C3E0x)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at December 28, 2015 11:25 PM (Gosad)
Not that I know anything about that. Just read a few articles here and there, once. long ago.
Posted by: Pierrer3312 at December 28, 2015 11:25 PM (74kfZ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:23 PM (w57Sr)
****
I don't do shots, but can call the toast if enough reprobates chime in. I do big beers. Who dat?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 28, 2015 11:26 PM (YLidQ)
Ozzy, Dio, Lemmy...I just realized how fucking dumb all of their names are.
Posted by: VBJonny at December 28, 2015 11:26 PM (NX9H4)
Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:26 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2015 11:26 PM (9YDUz)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 28, 2015 11:25 PM (FkBIv)
But Peyton doesn't have the arm strength anymore to use a rotary phone.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at December 28, 2015 11:26 PM (Z7G74)
in a fetal position clutching my balls and the girl thought I had hung
up on her.
You'd think after the first five or six times that happened you'd learn not to stretch the cord.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 28, 2015 11:26 PM (YJmuy)
Posted by: Blano at December 28, 2015 11:26 PM (C3E0x)
Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 28, 2015 11:27 PM (044Fx)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 28, 2015 11:27 PM (EzgxV)
Another simple ONT, eh? Well, it's still good.
Congratulations to Ace of Spades for winning The Senator John Blutarsky Award for Conservative Blogging
Doug Ross
http://bit.ly/1Pu0iKx
Apparently, a category made up just so AoS could make the list.
I think AoS commenters deserve some special category award. Most Corgi-like Morons?
I only follow a small percentage of the blogs listed in this 2015 Fabulous 50 Blog Award Winners. I'd like to add many of them, but... I can hardly keep up with the ones to which I already subscribe.
Posted by: mindful webworker - overbloggified at December 28, 2015 11:27 PM (ACs58)
I miss being able to cradle the damned receiver in the crook of my neck. Holding these stupid cell phones is annoying.
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at December 28, 2015 11:27 PM (t5zYU)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value. at December 28, 2015 11:27 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 28, 2015 11:27 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at December 28, 2015 11:28 PM (yrUKa)
Posted by: Arson Wells at December 28, 2015 11:17 PM (UnJ7w)
Oblig: http://tinyurl.com/Ace-O-Spades-RIP-Lemmy
Fucking crank it.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 28, 2015 11:29 PM (t8P62)
I was thinking that very thing and didn't have the testicals to say it.
Posted by: Pierrer3312 at December 28, 2015 11:29 PM (74kfZ)
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at December 28, 2015 11:27 PM (t5zYU)
If only there was a way to use the phone without holding it right up against your ear. Like if the sound was projected out and your voice was picked up.
A "speaker phone" if you will.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:29 PM (w57Sr)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at December 28, 2015 11:29 PM (Gosad)
Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:29 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: DynamiteDan at December 28, 2015 11:29 PM (BaDMP)
That sounds like the squeaky voice of experience.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 28, 2015 11:29 PM (DLIIY)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 28, 2015 11:26 PM (YLidQ)
Unfortunately, I'm out. Finished off the booze earlier.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:30 PM (w57Sr)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 28, 2015 11:30 PM (6q+dR)
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at December 28, 2015 11:30 PM (t5zYU)
Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:30 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 28, 2015 11:26 PM (YJmuy)
Give him a break. He was 16 and thinking about cooter.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 28, 2015 11:30 PM (t8P62)
Posted by: Pierrer3312 at December 28, 2015 11:31 PM (74kfZ)
Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:31 PM (MQEz6)
I miss being able to cradle the damned receiver in the crook of my neck. Holding these stupid cell phones is annoying.
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at December 28, 2015 11:27 PM (t5zYU)
Aren't there Bluetooth devices now that are pretty much a classic phone or at least look like a standard cordless receiver? Why not get one of those?
Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2015 11:31 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 28, 2015 11:32 PM (6q+dR)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 28, 2015 11:26 PM (YJmuy)
You would think so.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at December 28, 2015 11:32 PM (Z7G74)
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at December 28, 2015 11:30 PM (t5zYU)
In your own home?
Ok.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:32 PM (w57Sr)
Now? Pretty hard to use a button touch for effect.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 28, 2015 11:32 PM (YLidQ)
What a shame to give up on the simple three-digit numbers and voice-activated dialing.
Whose idea was it to put the emergency "0" number at the longest-to-dial position anyway?
Posted by: mindful webworker - number pleeease at December 28, 2015 11:32 PM (ACs58)
Now? Pretty hard to use a button touch for effect.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 28, 2015 11:32 PM (YLidQ)
Now that's the damn truth. A good phone slam is excellent.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:33 PM (w57Sr)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 28, 2015 11:30 PM (6q+dR)
They keep playing don't they?
Posted by: Donovan McNabb at December 28, 2015 11:33 PM (Z7G74)
Posted by: Y-not
I miss the heft of the receivers. Just enough weight to bludgeon someone into unconsciousness so you could drag them into your bitchin' van....
Posted by: J.W. Gacy at December 28, 2015 11:33 PM (9YDUz)
See? See? That's what happens when you don't learn!
Too many high velocity telephone impacts damn near castrated a generation.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 28, 2015 11:33 PM (YJmuy)
Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:33 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Lauren at December 28, 2015 11:33 PM (Z/8dZ)
Posted by: Old Blue at December 28, 2015 11:34 PM (9iR5/)
On our new phone/s my dad keeps on inadvertently hitting the Mute button (that's an icon on the screen and not a separate button). I don't know if it's his hand from how he holds it or if it's his ear hitting it!
Posted by: andycanuck at December 28, 2015 11:34 PM (DLIIY)
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom)
Those were designed for the human head.
You know who that leaves out.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 28, 2015 11:34 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:34 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Sharkman at December 28, 2015 11:34 PM (t8P62)
Remember those U shaped attachments you could screw onto the receiver to make it easier to cradle them on your shoulder?
Posted by: All Teh Meh at December 28, 2015 11:34 PM (yrUKa)
You do booze logistics like the Browns do football
Posted by: DC in River City at December 28, 2015 11:34 PM (e+1S5)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at December 28, 2015 11:35 PM (Gosad)
Posted by: otho at December 28, 2015 11:35 PM (EWg9n)
Posted by: DC in River City at December 28, 2015 11:34 PM (e+1S5)
I went through the Christmas present a bit quicker than expected.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:35 PM (w57Sr)
If only there were, like, some device that let you use them by just sticking a thing in your ear. Even wireless. Wouldn't that be cool?
MWNP: ...slam a phone down to end a call...
Somebody told me a while back there's an app for that....
Posted by: mindful webworker - number pleeease at December 28, 2015 11:36 PM (ACs58)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 28, 2015 11:36 PM (DLIIY)
35 I miss those phones. The base of them was so damn heavy that they didn't budge when you were talking on them and stretching the cord, unlike the touchtone ones that the cord would stretch to a point, and then bring the base flying directly at your nuts.
Physics class, senior year HS. Experimenting with springs. Me holding one end, best friend lab partner "secures" other end to bench...
...MFer failed in his assigned duty and I caught the overstretched spring square in the 'nads. Funny it was, he thought, as did everyone else who witnessed it.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2015 11:36 PM (BK3ZS)
One damned neighbor was bad to sneak and pick up and listen in. He let something slip that gave away his eavesdropping one time. Once they got wise, they said you could tell when he was on the line by a subtle change in sound.
One day my father was talking to somebody and heard that change. He then said, "And Andy, what do you think about that?". Andy was the neighbor's name. He said he heard the phone slam down.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 28, 2015 11:36 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: t-bird at December 28, 2015 11:36 PM (+c55T)
Happens to me too. You can push the power button on an iPhone to turn off those buttons without ending the call.
Posted by: DC in River City at December 28, 2015 11:37 PM (e+1S5)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 28, 2015 11:37 PM (6q+dR)
Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:37 PM (MQEz6)
"
You know what else is annoying? Accidentally initiating a facetime call in the middle of a phone call with your face.
Posted by: Lauren at December 28, 2015 11:37 PM (Z/8dZ)
Posted by: Eli Manning at December 28, 2015 11:37 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: David James at December 28, 2015 11:38 PM (CPF2D)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2015 11:38 PM (5DyVQ)
You know who that leaves out.
Those damned satellites buzzing around my head again!
Posted by: Peyton Manning at December 28, 2015 11:38 PM (+c55T)
Posted by: Valiant at December 28, 2015 11:38 PM (2bqlb)
Posted by: Sheriff Taylor at December 28, 2015 11:38 PM (NqQAS)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 28, 2015 11:38 PM (DLIIY)
Posted by: Methos at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (6q+dR)
Somebody told me a while back there's an app for that....
Posted by: mindful webworker - number pleeease at December 28, 2015 11:36 PM (ACs5
***
Of course there is.
I was referring to the physical action of slamming down a rotary dial or tone actual land line phone handset.
No app will ever give one that feeling. It is a physical thing.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Garrett at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (tHaqE)
Posted by: mindful webworker - is it 2016 yet? at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (ACs58)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (w57Sr)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value. at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Lauren at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (Z/8dZ)
Posted by: Roxy Rae at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (D/1P4)
If only there was an industry that distributed and sold alcohol in retail establishments. Oh well, we can dream.
Posted by: DC in River City at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (e+1S5)
Brilliant!
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value. at December 28, 2015 11:40 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 28, 2015 11:40 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Keith Richards at December 28, 2015 11:40 PM (6q+dR)
Posted by: rickl at December 28, 2015 11:41 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 28, 2015 11:41 PM (DLIIY)
Posted by: Garrett at December 28, 2015 11:41 PM (tHaqE)
Whose idea was it to put the emergency "0" number at the longest-to-dial position anyway?
Muzzies. They invented the "0", donchaknow?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (BK3ZS)
Ah, that's true.
It's just not the same when you hurl your cell at the wall.
Posted by: mindful webworker - dial tone? at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (ACs58)
Lisa! Get that damned pig off the couch! ..... Oh sorry, Arnold, didn't recognize you.
Posted by: Oliver Wendall Douglas at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: Jeff Goldblum at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: DC in River City
In the perfect metropolitan city of my dreams, there is a beer utility.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (9YDUz)
Posted by: DC in River City at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (e+1S5)
I know, right?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (w57Sr)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (/ciMI)
Thanks to all for the Ry Cooder info/recommendations in the previous thread. Just went ahead and splurged on a copy of "Borderline" from Amazon.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (ntObR)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (UsLZp)
Agreed. Few things were more... satisfying... than slamming down the receiver at the end of an angry conversation!
(and those old phones could sure take the beating!)
Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 28, 2015 11:43 PM (044Fx)
Why are you calling the Broncos the Donks? That's our nickname. According to Wikipedia, theirs is Orange Crush.
Posted by: Debbie Wasserman-Schultz at December 28, 2015 11:43 PM (sv9eA)
Our exchange was CAnal (Marquette, MI).
The cooler ones were up the road in Negaunee (GRanite) and Ishpeming (HEmatite).
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2015 11:44 PM (BK3ZS)
No app will ever give one that feeling. It is a physical thing.
Papa Basura broke a receiver doing that. Until we moved out of that house we had masking tape holding it together.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 28, 2015 11:44 PM (YJmuy)
If I'm not... leave a message at the tone.
* cue Zappa on hold music *
Posted by: mindful webworker - you didn't try to call me at December 28, 2015 11:44 PM (ACs58)
One damned neighbor was bad to sneak and pick up and listen in. He let something slip that gave away his eavesdropping one time. Once they got wise, they said you could tell when he was on the line by a subtle change in sound.
One day my father was talking to somebody and heard that change. He then said, "And Andy, what do you think about that?". Andy was the neighbor's name. He said he heard the phone slam down.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 28, 2015 11:36 PM (dvuhZ)
Everybody on our party line was a relative.
And yeah, you could almost always tell when somebody else picked up the phone.
Posted by: Blano at December 28, 2015 11:44 PM (C3E0x)
Posted by: Roxy Raye at December 28, 2015 11:45 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 28, 2015 11:45 PM (/ciMI)
(and those old phones could sure take the beating!)
Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 28, 2015 11:43 PM (044Fx)
The phones we have at work....unbreakable. My dad and I have both flat out tried to break them. Slamming the handset into the cradle over and over as hard as possible. Nothing.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:45 PM (w57Sr)
First!
Posted by: Clock Boy at December 28, 2015 11:45 PM (+c55T)
Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2015 11:46 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: mindful webworker - dial tone? at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (ACs5
So, so true.
Don't ask me how I know.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread: The Toast Awake ns at December 28, 2015 11:46 PM (RrDm2)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:29 PM (w57Sr)
No bathroom should be without one! Spectacular accoustics, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2015 11:47 PM (UsLZp)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread: The Toast Awakens at December 28, 2015 11:47 PM (RrDm2)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2015 11:47 PM (B4570)
Posted by: Bob at the NSA at December 28, 2015 11:47 PM (+c55T)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 28, 2015 11:47 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: anticlimax at December 28, 2015 11:47 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Methos at December 28, 2015 11:47 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value. at December 28, 2015 11:47 PM (rwI+c)
sorry, coach!
Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:47 PM (MQEz6)
129 If only there was an industry that distributed and sold alcohol in retail establishments. Oh well, we can dream.
Posted by: DC in River City
In the perfect metropolitan city of my dreams, there is a beer utility.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (9YDUz)
It'd be corrupted, union-based overpriced swill were that the case. At least go for a co-op, please.
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at December 28, 2015 11:48 PM (Gosad)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2015 11:48 PM (BK3ZS)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 28, 2015 11:48 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 28, 2015 11:44 PM (YJmuy)
******
Dad MWNP did that as well, back in the time when the actual phone was leased from the company. Those things could...not..be...killed.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 28, 2015 11:48 PM (YLidQ)
I guess Houston will have to actually win a game next week
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 28, 2015 11:48 PM (6q+dR)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value. at December 28, 2015 11:48 PM (rwI+c)
The phone was ... mutilated.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of commenter of
equal or greater value. at December 28, 2015 11:27 PM (rwI+c)
Allahu Akbar!!!
Posted by: Daesh fighter, holding aloft phone handset with knife in other hand at December 28, 2015 11:48 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: dick morris at December 28, 2015 11:49 PM (6q+dR)
Posted by: Methos at December 28, 2015 11:49 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Old Blue at December 28, 2015 11:34 PM (9iR5/)
Ninety volts AC. Still there, if you have a land line, because the old equipment still works if you plug it in.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2015 11:50 PM (UsLZp)
Pretty much all near indestructible, and damn near totally reliable.
And the phone can be thrown with about the same kinetic energy as a 230 gr. FMJ, I'd imagine.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 28, 2015 11:50 PM (McRlu)
Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:50 PM (MQEz6)
Unbreakable, you say? Cool...
But, do the handsets have the *heft* of old? And did they give a satisfying SLAM! when you tested them?
Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 28, 2015 11:50 PM (044Fx)
The New York Times does not feel kindly toward the book 'Friendly Fire' by C.D.B Bryan.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1976/10/14/friendly-fire/
I mention this only because of an off hand comment made long ago about the 'worst of the first' from someone long forgotten, and that Schwarzkopf was assigned the unit to fix the problems.
Also because I have a cousin who was wounded in that incident.
Posted by: Pierrer3312 at December 28, 2015 11:51 PM (74kfZ)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 28, 2015 11:51 PM (6q+dR)
Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 28, 2015 11:50 PM (044Fx)
Light, yet enough heft for a satisfying slam. A slam loud enough to be heard throughout the office.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:52 PM (w57Sr)
Posted by: Barack Obama at December 28, 2015 11:52 PM (sv9eA)
Now, of course, I can't ever find my damned phone, because it isn't attached to the wall anymore.
And yes, get off my lawn.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 28, 2015 11:52 PM (+YMhA)
Posted by: Landofskybluewater at December 28, 2015 11:53 PM (euO4K)
Posted by: Barack Obama at December 28, 2015 11:53 PM (sv9eA)
Posted by: Barack Obama at December 28, 2015 11:53 PM (sv9eA)
What is that? Austrian?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:54 PM (w57Sr)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 28, 2015 11:54 PM (/FOB4)
Posted by: mindful webworker - dial tone? at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (ACs5
And it flies apart, and the battery vanishes into the ether, never again to be seen. Not that I would know, of course.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2015 11:54 PM (UsLZp)
Heya cooth, how's it going? Have you gotten network fully secured yet?
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at December 28, 2015 11:35 PM (Gosad)
If you only knew the bubblegum and baling-wire that is the way this stuff is normally implemented.....
Made decent progress today -- I proof-of-concepted some cobbled-together hardware/software....but true security is still some ways away. Just as long as things are more secure every day.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 28, 2015 11:55 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Dave in the frozen north at December 28, 2015 11:56 PM (tZ38O)
For any DFW 'rons and/or 'ettes, I'm heading to the big gun show in Ft. Worth this coming Saturday morning for a few hours before work. Would be great to meet some and learn gun stuff from them.
Drop me a line if anybody might be interested.
blano8102 at that crappy yahoo site.
Posted by: Blano at December 28, 2015 11:56 PM (C3E0x)
Had no idea that what Yoko Ono did to the Beatles, Cher did to them.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 28, 2015 11:56 PM (ntObR)
*That* could be a winning sales slogan!
And, lmao at tcn in AK-- I can't ever find my damned phone, because it isn't attached to the wall anymore.
No sh!t, right? *the lawn: me too*
Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 28, 2015 11:56 PM (044Fx)
Posted by: Landofskybluewater
At the store today saw a person projecting her phone conversation to the world and everyone.
Some day soon I will be giving up the cares and just projecting the most embarrassing thing I can think up at the precious convo roamers.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2015 11:57 PM (9YDUz)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 28, 2015 11:58 PM (ntObR)
*That* could be a winning sales slogan!
And, lmao at tcn in AK-- I can't ever find my damned phone, because it isn't attached to the wall anymore.
No sh!t, right? *the lawn: me too*
Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 28, 2015 11:56 PM (044Fx)
****
What up, Slap?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 28, 2015 11:58 PM (YLidQ)
And you couldn't unplug from the wall neither.
Posted by: Pierrer3312 at December 28, 2015 11:59 PM (74kfZ)
Posted by: t-bird at December 28, 2015 11:59 PM (+c55T)
Posted by: Dave in the frozen north at December 28, 2015 11:59 PM (tZ38O)
Norman Schwarzkopf is still dead.
Abe Vigoda is still alive.
Posted by: mindful webworker - is it 2016 yet? at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (ACs5
Cthulhu still is dreaming....
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:00 AM (EzgxV)
Oh, and if you're still interested, bring a safety harness and some rope. You may need it. Also maybe a helmet with a light on it.
Posted by: Roxy Raye at December 29, 2015 12:00 AM (dvuhZ)
And, living in the great white north, calling folks in the Lower 48 come some holiday was always a crap shoot. Before satellites, you had to rely on the cable, which was always jammed full all day. When we finally got satellites, we had no bandwidth, so you would get this three tone alarm, and then a recorded statement that the satellite was full, please make your call later. It usually already WAS later, since you never called before 7:00 p.m. because it was prohibitively expensive, which made it 9:00 p.m. in Seattle and even later farther east.
We were sort of used to that sort of thing: if you wanted to watch the evening news, you waited until 10:00 p.m. to watch the national news, which came up by plane every evening on tape. If the weather was crap, the plane didn't go, so no news.
We did a lot of radio back then, particularly AFRN. To this day, I understand football a lot better on the radio than the television.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 29, 2015 12:01 AM (+YMhA)
Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 12:01 AM (C3E0x)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 29, 2015 12:01 AM (w57Sr)
Posted by: weft cut-loop
Was it Dindoo Niuttin's momma? I was in a doctors' waiting room a few weeks ago and was treated to Ms Nuttin telling her phone (between unblocked, wet hacks) about poor Dindoo being in jail for stealing cell phone cords. Other than that, he dindoo nuttin.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 29, 2015 12:02 AM (/FOB4)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 29, 2015 12:02 AM (RU5ki)
Akhi, have I ever been other than an honest advisor to thee?
Posted by: qutham al-nabi al-mu'mimin at December 29, 2015 12:03 AM (6q+dR)
So watching on DVD George Pal's version of War of the Worlds.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:04 AM (wOdHk)
Posted by: Oedipus at December 29, 2015 12:05 AM (CXLVd)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 29, 2015 12:05 AM (sv9eA)
For years now, us conservatives have been naming and shaming the MSM, and that's great. But we also need to have some great acronyms for the MSM's members. I came up with some today:
CWAC - Celebrity Without A Clue. For recent examples, see: Jennifer Lawrence, Samuel L. Jackson.
NITWIT - Newsreader InTerjecting Worthless shIT. Someone who doesn't just want to read the news, s/he wants to be a part of the news and will do so by constantly interjecting their opinions on everything when what they should really be doing is hosting the 4am Sunday Cow Fart Report in Podunk. Classic example: Rivera, Geraldo.
TSK - Talk Show Know-it-all. Always claiming if the U.S. just had *one* more agency or would pass just *one* more piece of legislation, his or her pet cause would magically be cured forever...
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:06 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 29, 2015 12:02 AM (RU5ki)
Okay, first, pick the stick with the little green or red end on it. Then, you won't need the stick, but a bit of kindling is good.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 29, 2015 12:06 AM (+YMhA)
Hubby gave me a flint and steel to practice with. Dryer lint catches quickly, and you can pack *lots* of it into a pill bottle....
Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 29, 2015 12:07 AM (044Fx)
197 Wow talk about 'old school' on the technology.
So watching on DVD George Pal's version of War of the Worlds.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:04 AM (wOdHk)
I love that movie.
The pile of scientific instruments looks so useless.
Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:07 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig
No, it was Ms. Executive who had to insist, insist! that the proofs were to be signed or else her carrot turnbuckle would beet fundament scuppernog ... and we all know how that goes.
I may have dozed off into my cart near that last part.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 12:08 AM (9YDUz)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:08 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 29, 2015 12:08 AM (6q+dR)
Had no idea that what Yoko Ono did to the Beatles, Cher did to them.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 28, 2015 11:56 PM (ntObR)
Haha. Okay, but, two things:
The Allman Brothers Band was not the Beatles by any stretch of imagination.
And Cher was not Yoko.
Also, why are Yoko and Cher alive? What the heck?
Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 12:08 AM (k9qR4)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 29, 2015 12:08 AM (/FOB4)
Why is that? Back in the day when I worked in telecom I always walked around with a BT earpiece, tapping my ear when the phone vibed.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:09 AM (JReQm)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:09 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:09 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: Dave in the frozen north at December 29, 2015 12:10 AM (tZ38O)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:08 AM (ntObR)
****
Way ahead of ya. I was also working with 3/4" and later Beta video tape editing by hand. Old school.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 12:11 AM (YLidQ)
209 "I hate blue tooth. "
Why is that? Back in the day when I worked in telecom I always walked around with a BT earpiece, tapping my ear when the phone vibed.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:09 AM (JReQm)
Did you say, "Talk to me"?
Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:12 AM (MQEz6)
"Wow, now that I made $5 million before the age of 23 just pluckin' my guitar and I never hafta work again, think I'll down nine gallons a' Wild Turkey, jump on my Harley and rush up the highway going the wrong way during lunch hour..."
:-P
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:12 AM (ntObR)
Man, I did a lot of that back in my radio days.
Posted by: Garrett at December 29, 2015 12:12 AM (tHaqE)
Posted by: Jim Groce at December 29, 2015 12:12 AM (euO4K)
Run some Bing searches on adding some Vaseline to your lint....the merits of old 35 mm film cannisters and some other neat tricks involving steel wool and 9 volt batteries.
Then you can move to some advanced knowledge, such as making your own char in a used Altoids tin.
You get good at fire-starting, and you'll have the foundation to build on for all the other outdoor arts.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 29, 2015 12:12 AM (McRlu)
Before Jeff Goldblum there was a real scientist Dr. Clayton Forrester.
The three copper 3ft Martian war machines fell victim to a Boy Scouts metal drive.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:12 AM (wOdHk)
I guess dryer lint is cheaper than jewelry. Hubby has a good head on his shoulders.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 29, 2015 12:13 AM (RU5ki)
Posted by: Pay Ton
I know that Cher is alive because middle-aged gay men pay millions of dollars every year to hear her "sing" shitty songs, and she uses that money to buy the blood of virgins to keep her body animated.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 29, 2015 12:13 AM (/FOB4)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:06 AM (ntObR)
Actors, in any venue: meatspace marionettes
Manipulated and having no thoughts of their own.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 29, 2015 12:13 AM (BK3ZS)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:13 AM (WVAsm)
I also edited 3/4-inch "U-matic" tape back in the day, but everything was via two huge recorder decks and an edit controller, dubbing electronically.
What we at my public access station would have done for a then-cutting-edge digital A/B editing system...
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:14 AM (ntObR)
Do yourself a favor and go find Allman Bros "Live at Atlanta Pop Festival (1970).
Then, discover Gov't Mule. Start with "The Deepest End"
Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 12:14 AM (mUsVF)
It always blows my mind when you see someone walk into a bathroom
talking on their phone, walking into a stall and continuing their
conversation while their ass is playing the 1812 Overture.
Posted by: Landofskybluewater
At the store today saw a person projecting her phone conversation to the world and everyone.
Some
day soon I will be giving up the cares and just projecting the most
embarrassing thing I can think up at the precious convo roamers.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2015 11:57 PM (9YDUz)
When I was in High School, the crowd I ran with had a "thing" called "The Elevator Game" -- the idea was for our group to encounter some random stranger in a situation where it was impossible not to overhear (thus, "Elevator") -- and matter-of-factly "continue" an imaginary conversation in increasingly surreal ways until we parted company with said stranger.
A: "Yeah, the party was buzzing along nicely, but it got a little weird when the guy showed up with the goat." B: "That wasn't half as weird as when Susie started decorating the goat with whipped cream." C: "Yeah, compared to that it was a return to normalcy when Norman started spritzing whipped cream all over Susie." B: "Well, to be fair, that's Norman...." A: "....but down her shirt?" C: "Looks like this is our floor."
....and then we'd go on our merry way, discussing how best to cast Lightning Bolt against Frost Giants....
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:14 AM (EzgxV)
219 eman, great movie.
Before Jeff Goldblum there was a real scientist Dr. Clayton Forrester.
The three copper 3ft Martian war machines fell victim to a Boy Scouts metal drive.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:12 AM (wOdHk)
Oh, that's tragic.
Did you ever watch the TV series they made in the Eighties?
Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:15 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 29, 2015 12:15 AM (DLIIY)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:15 AM (WVAsm)
Trying to stock up on the blues rock. Finding it really agrees with me. Great stayin'-up-late-at-night on the weekend, countin'-my-blessings music IMHO.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:16 AM (ntObR)
Our home number ended in 987
We were 2125. You could rip thru that pretty fast.
Posted by: t-bird at December 28, 2015 11:59 PM (+c55T)
Fun fact -- area codes were originally assigned based on how "important" the area was. Look at 212, 213, and 312.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:16 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 29, 2015 12:17 AM (FQKBL)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 29, 2015 12:17 AM (FkBIv)
Let's pray those master tapes never find their way into the hands of the terrorists...
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:18 AM (ntObR)
What we at my public access station would have done for a then-cutting-edge digital A/B editing system...
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:14 AM (ntObR)
*****
No time for electronic editing, "This is CNN!"
It was brutal manual splicing, with honest to gawd tape in the true sense of the word. It hadda happen fast.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 12:18 AM (YLidQ)
I've always (well, for about 10 years, anyway) had at least 2 lighters and some kind of tinder with me, but it's good to know the other ways.
Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 29, 2015 12:18 AM (044Fx)
Now, on 9/11, and this was in the Greenville, SC area, I think I remember the local system being all jammed up. I think just about everybody was calling everybody.
Now, where the bottleneck was, I don't know, but something in the chain my line was on was jammed up.
I thought it was pretty stupid, but everybody was calling everybody.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 29, 2015 12:18 AM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: Dave in the frozen north at December 29, 2015 12:18 AM (tZ38O)
She was wearing her "native American" get up.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.
Cultural appropriation!
Posted by: Liawatha Warren at December 29, 2015 12:18 AM (/FOB4)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 29, 2015 12:19 AM (DLIIY)
firesteel.com
cotton balls soaked in petroleum jelly, dry kindling (or georgia fatwood) shaved and split down to little sticks.
or 95c bic, gan of gas, half a pack of illegal untaxed cigarettes. Not that I would know, but I do have eclectic reading habits.
Posted by: Pierrer3312 at December 29, 2015 12:19 AM (74kfZ)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 29, 2015 12:19 AM (dvuhZ)
234 Yoko and Cher actually once recorded an album together, but it was never released.
Let's pray those master tapes never find their way into the hands of the terrorists...
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:18 AM (ntObR)
Or that they do.
Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:20 AM (MQEz6)
After the fire-and-stick thing, I can show folks here how to edit 1/4-inch open-reel audio tape.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:08 AM (ntObR)
I had the little metal jig for that.....I wonder if I still have it around someplace.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:20 AM (EzgxV)
Picturing Ted Turner with a whip standing behind you. "We gotta get this shee-it on the air NOW dammit!! Faster faster!!" (wwwwhhhoosh-PSSHH)
;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:20 AM (ntObR)
The loss of the machines is tragic, but I bet Paramount was tired of keeping them in storage. Like the great backlot sale several studios did in the early 1970s, amazing what was let go including whole airplanes.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:20 AM (wOdHk)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:21 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 29, 2015 12:08 AM (/FOB4)
No, but this is Pennsylvania 6-5000:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_muFwwTSMs
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 12:22 AM (UsLZp)
246 I vaguely recall a TV series. Wasn't it something like toxic Martians stealing bodies until everything goes gooey?
The loss of the machines is tragic, but I bet Paramount was tired of keeping them in storage. Like the great backlot sale several studios did in the early 1970s, amazing what was let go including whole airplanes.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:20 AM (wOdHk)
That's it. It wasn't bad, but eventually it ran out of gas.
Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:22 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Jenny at 867-5309 at December 29, 2015 12:23 AM (euO4K)
About 80% of what I listen to is blues rock. AB & Mule are the quintessential jam bands if you like live stuff. Go you tube some Deepest End now. Seriously. They are what Greatfull Dead & Phish wish they could have been.
BTW, Mule is fronted by Warren Haynes, who happens to be the front man for the latest incarnation of the AB.
Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 12:23 AM (mUsVF)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:09 AM (JReQm)
Couple reasons I guess: 1) Because it seemed like they yapped away in the most irritating places. 2) Since I often didn't see the blue tooth thingy at first, I assumed if they were looking at me or walking towards me they were speaking to me, so I'd speak back, only to get that "look" like what's the matter with me.
Plus had friends who used it when driving. It always sounded like there was water running in the background. Irritated the hell out of me.
Maybe it's just me.
Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 12:24 AM (C3E0x)
Posted by: Tommy 2Tone at December 29, 2015 12:24 AM (RU5ki)
The loss of the machines is tragic, but I bet Paramount was tired of keeping them in storage. Like the great backlot sale several studios did in the early 1970s, amazing what was let go including whole airplanes.
Posted by: Anna Puma
Not the War of the Worlds TV show???
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 12:24 AM (9YDUz)
I found out everybody, wanted to mention. A fellow volunteer producer I used to work with at Lakewood Community Television, whose name is James Melvin, is now working at NBCUniversal and producing this:
Star Trek: Progeny
https://startrekprogenydotorg.wordpress.com/
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:25 AM (ntObR)
Picturing Ted Turner with a whip standing behind you. "We gotta get this shee-it on the air NOW dammit!! Faster faster!!" (wwwwhhhoosh-PSSHH)
;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:20 AM (ntObR)
****
Pretty close! His Minions were not concerned about video quality. They were concerned about time. After all, News Network, right? When we had time, an A/B edit controller was cool.
About 50 of the time though, it was brutal field edits. Needed to be timely almost more than anything else.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 12:26 AM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Dave in the frozen north
------------------
Well, I'm jealous. But, I was only 3, so wouldn't have appreciated it.
Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 12:26 AM (mUsVF)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:26 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: Phone at December 29, 2015 12:26 AM (RU5ki)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_muFwwTSMs
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Or Transylvania 6-5000:
https://youtu.be/ABKy-Pqu-HQ
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 29, 2015 12:26 AM (/FOB4)
Posted by: Debbie Harry at December 29, 2015 12:27 AM (euO4K)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:16 AM (EzgxV)
Great. We've always been 907. Guess that tells you who was making the decisions, and who didn't give two shits.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 29, 2015 12:27 AM (+YMhA)
Better yet, any live Little Feat.
Always thought ABB was way overrated as a jam band. They played the same set over and over.
Posted by: Garrett at December 29, 2015 12:27 AM (yeSoS)
I know we were unimportant, but figured somebody was 808 or something. Nope. Worst was 21 pulses for SD, NC, and SC. 803, for example.
Posted by: t-bird at December 29, 2015 12:28 AM (+c55T)
Okay, gotcha. We learned to never look directly at someone if talking on the BT. Look down, up, over there. The human interaction part.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:28 AM (cgEX9)
Posted by: cthulhu
OVER: Just don't dial 6.6.6!
*evil guitar solo
Posted by: That movie voice guy at December 29, 2015 12:28 AM (9YDUz)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 12:29 AM (9YDUz)
Also, the 714 area code in California was ridiculous. It took up the entirety of Orange, San Diego, Riverside, San Bernardino, and several other counties, all the way north to not too far east of the Yosemite area, including Ridgecrest.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:30 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 29, 2015 12:30 AM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Garrett
--------------------
Blasphemer!
Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 12:31 AM (mUsVF)
@226
Apparently that was an Alfred Hitchcock thing he liked to do in elevators. Walk away leaving everyone in the elevator wondering how the story ended.
Posted by: Pierrer3312 at December 29, 2015 12:31 AM (74kfZ)
Speaking of guns, I went and bought that .410 today in Arlington. It was $129 for me, but got it anyways.
It was kind of a zoo when I got there, then didn't know that my license had to have my current address, so had to take some time to change my address online, then the paperwork took longer than usual. Oh well, it was my day off anyways.
Cute little gun. Now I just need to make a friend with some land so I can go shoot it once in a while.
Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 12:31 AM (C3E0x)
Star Trek: Progeny just from the photo, so does she think that perhaps she is 007 of Star Fleet? Uh I think I would prefer to watch Blowager.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:32 AM (wOdHk)
Fun fact -- area codes were originally assigned based on how "important" the area was. Look at 212, 213, and 312.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:16 AM (EzgxV)
Great. We've always been 907. Guess that tells you who was making the decisions, and who didn't give two shits.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 29, 2015 12:27 AM (+YMhA)
Wow. If that was your original area code, you're absolutely right -- ATT shit all over you. I always thought I had it bad growing up in 805.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:32 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:33 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:33 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:34 AM (wOdHk)
Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:33 PM (MQEz6)
Not when you were pacing around.
Posted by: Donovan McNabb at December 29, 2015 12:35 AM (Z7G74)
Ain't it a cool little sonny-gun. Nice stock. Well made. Damn near fold in half. We went and shot skeet with them and they'd sure do it.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:35 AM (LaJOb)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:35 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2015 12:35 AM (RrDm2)
Posted by: Lonely guy calling 90's era party line at December 29, 2015 12:35 AM (euO4K)
255 Uh oh, Martians.
I found out everybody, wanted to mention. A fellow volunteer producer I used to work with at Lakewood Community Television, whose name is James Melvin, is now working at NBCUniversal and producing this:
Star Trek: Progeny
https://startrekprogenydotorg.wordpress.com/
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:25 AM (ntObR)
I have seen worse ideas.
Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:36 AM (MQEz6)
Dinky gun. Can you hit anything with it?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 29, 2015 12:36 AM (RU5ki)
Posted by: Donovan McNabb at December 29, 2015 12:35 AM (Z7G74)
Off you drunk lazy sock.
Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 29, 2015 12:36 AM (Z7G74)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 29, 2015 12:37 AM (RU5ki)
Dinky gun. Can you hit anything with it?
Posted by: Cicero
Filed under: not helping.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 12:37 AM (9YDUz)
Run some Bing searches on adding some Vaseline to your lint....the merits of old 35 mm film cannisters and some other neat tricks involving steel wool and 9 volt batteries.
Then you can move to some advanced knowledge, such as making your own char in a used Altoids tin.
You get good at fire-starting, and you'll have the foundation to build on for all the other outdoor arts.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim
****
Ooooor burning down the houses of people that have angered you. Either way, FUN!
Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 29, 2015 12:37 AM (hVdx9)
qdpsteve, well that certainly narrows things down a bit. Which granddaughter?
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:34 AM (wOdHk)
Official, or unofficial? How much green?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:37 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:38 AM (MQEz6)
This is what the Dead had going for them. Of course, if it was a Saturday, there was no stopping Bob Weir from calling out another 'Saturday Night'.
Fuckin' Bobby...
Posted by: Garrett at December 29, 2015 12:38 AM (fD4iC)
Dinky gun. Can you hit anything with it?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 29, 2015 12:36 AM (RU5ki)
Haven't shot it yet, but seems like the perfect gun for somebody who has never shot before, like a chick or a kid. Very lightweight. A great practice long gun.
Also, if I had to use it for defense it would probably just be at close range. Just guessing here.
Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 12:39 AM (C3E0x)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 12:37 AM (9YDUz)
Sometimes just waving it around is effective enough.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 29, 2015 12:39 AM (RU5ki)
Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 29, 2015 12:39 AM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:40 AM (wOdHk)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:32 AM (EzgxV)
ATT didn't even come up here. Ever. So, we took that. The whole state. Still is one area code, still 907.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 29, 2015 12:41 AM (+YMhA)
cthulhu, actually it looks to me like Progeny is still in development limbo. They've probably produced and shot a handful of (three or four) episodes and still shopping them to the networks in the hope of a sale.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:41 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:35 AM (LaJOb)
Yeah it is. Looking forward to shooting it. Will probably take it to Michigan next time I go so my daughter can practice with it also.
Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 12:41 AM (C3E0x)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:41 AM (wOdHk)
Snakes, birds. clays, home-intruders. Normal things you'd shoot with a shotty.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:42 AM (g+HvW)
Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 12:39 AM (C3E0x)
IIRC, you can get .410 rifled slugs, which would make that little shotgun into a virtual .41 Magnum carbine.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 12:42 AM (UsLZp)
Last thing I saw was Pam G knocking me out with a tire iron
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 29, 2015 12:42 AM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 29, 2015 12:39 AM (hVdx9)
I'm still slogging thru ace's post about Pam from 2011. Damn you people are funny.
Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 12:42 AM (C3E0x)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)
Not even remotely connected to my point.
Were you shot by a .410 as a youth?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 12:42 AM (9YDUz)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:42 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: Absolutely stacked horror movie vixen picking up phone at December 29, 2015 12:42 AM (euO4K)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 12:42 AM (UsLZp)
Duly noted, thank you!!
Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 12:43 AM (C3E0x)
Posted by: Cicero
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Well, not exactly. A .410 slug has *twice* the muzzle energy of a .45 ACP.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2015 12:43 AM (RrDm2)
295 eman, except there is already in production another Star Trek: Next Generation fan series called Star Trek: Renegades where Walter Koenig as Admiral Pavel Chekov pulls together a rag-tag crew to be 'galactic troubleshooters' with their own starship.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:40 AM (wOdHk)
I saw an episode of that.
It was okay.
Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:44 AM (MQEz6)
And I keep straight when I need to use the area code, and when not. WIth the damn cell phone, I've always got use the area code, but with the land lines, I don't.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 29, 2015 12:44 AM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: Blano
****
Well, as no one else had said it on this thread...
Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 29, 2015 12:44 AM (hVdx9)
Don't knock it.
Still haven't found a better way to meet chicks.
Posted by: Garrett at December 29, 2015 12:44 AM (fD4iC)
Posted by: lindafell de spair at December 29, 2015 12:45 AM (xVgrA)
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It's on account of all the damn yankees moving to Hilton Head.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2015 12:46 AM (RrDm2)
Posted by: lindafell de spair at December 29, 2015 12:45 AM (xVgrA)
Sante!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 12:46 AM (UsLZp)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:47 AM (ntObR)
Consuela swore she'd never clean any house but mine!
Posted by: El Gobernador Jeb Bush at December 29, 2015 12:47 AM (RU5ki)
Posted by: lindafell de spair
Are you sure there are no dead bodies swirling around the bottom?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 12:47 AM (9YDUz)
It is a very cheesy episode, but Kirk does bang a blonde slave girl.
The star of the Progeny is his granddaughter by that Kirkshot.
Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:47 AM (MQEz6)
eman, not bothered to see an episode. If I want trouble consultants will request Kei and Yuri of the Dirty Pair.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:47 AM (wOdHk)
3" or so inch blast pattern at 25 yards. We checked them on torso targets.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:48 AM (ZlezW)
318 So, the lady that cleans my house for me, gave me a belated Christmas present of the tallest bottle of tequila I've ever seen. It's close to two feet tall from looking at it. Shots all around!
Posted by: lindafell de spair
Are you sure there are no dead bodies swirling around the bottom?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 12:47 AM (9YDUz)
Red bottle?
Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:48 AM (MQEz6)
310
In SC, the whole state used to be 803. Then, they split up, when I can't
remember, and I was in 864. That was the Upstate, with 803 being
everything else. Now they've added a third.
And I keep straight
when I need to use the area code, and when not. WIth the damn cell
phone, I've always got use the area code, but with the land lines, I
don't.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 29, 2015 12:44 AM (dvuhZ)
I think 803 was a Gen 1 area code, but 864 sounds like a later one. Nowadays, you have overlaid area codes so that your next-door neighbor might not have the same as you.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:48 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Zakn at December 29, 2015 12:48 AM (d2pTe)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 12:49 AM (9YDUz)
I guess the Son in an Imperial Rome with TV and sub-machine guns never found his proper TV time-slot. So...
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:49 AM (wOdHk)
320 qdpsteve, could never hurt.
eman, not bothered to see an episode. If I want trouble consultants will request Kei and Yuri of the Dirty Pair.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:47 AM (wOdHk)
Alerting the Morons that there is plenty of cleavage on the show.
Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:50 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: lindafell de spair
****
She stole one of Hillary's noontime "pick-me-ups".
She will have someone flogged for it going missing.
Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 29, 2015 12:50 AM (hVdx9)
For such and old school blogosphere joke too. I'm fucking dying
Posted by: Zakn at December 29, 2015 12:51 AM (d2pTe)
326 "You too can own a Jupiter 8! And now back to the arena!"
I guess the Son in an Imperial Rome with TV and sub-machine guns never found his proper TV time-slot. So...
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:49 AM (wOdHk)
"Fight or we'll do a Special on you!!"
Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:51 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Zakn at December 29, 2015 12:51 AM (d2pTe)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:48 AM (EzgxV)
Area codes have sort of ceased to be merely "area" codes. Some "area" codes have been assigned to cell providers, and share subscribers with existing land-line area codes. Really, we have moved to full-time 10-digit dialing.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 12:51 AM (UsLZp)
Posted by: cthulhu
****
Mixing of the area codes. How tacky and disgraceful.
Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 29, 2015 12:51 AM (hVdx9)
This is what the Dead had going for them. Of course, if it was a Saturday, there was no stopping Bob Weir from calling out another 'Saturday Night'.
Fuckin' Bobby...
Posted by: Garrett at December 29, 2015 12:38 AM (fD4iC)
Yeah, the Dead could play three shows in a row on consecutive nights and not play the same song twice. Good times.
Posted by: rickl at December 29, 2015 12:52 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: El Gobernador Jeb Bush at December 29, 2015 12:47 AM (RU5ki)<<<
No. No. No, Senor Heb. You no have more lemon Pledge. I go now.
Posted by: Consuela at December 29, 2015 12:52 AM (H9MG5)
3" or so inch blast pattern at 25 yards. We checked them on torso targets.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:48 AM (ZlezW)
I'm filing that under "good enough."
Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 12:53 AM (C3E0x)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 12:53 AM (UsLZp)
Uh, which jamb and wasn't over-rated? Ugh, what a sucky genre. Crap played repetatively for a bunch of dippy stoners. How innovative!
Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 12:54 AM (k9qR4)
Posted by: thathalfrican at December 29, 2015 12:54 AM (R5HRU)
337 Sounds like a Jupiter 8 would be a fine fit in the Peon Garage.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 12:53 AM (UsLZp)
I think it had three wheels.
Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:54 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:55 AM (MQEz6)
Just make sure it doesn't have any parts from foreign galaxies or President Ivanka Trump will slap a 35% import tax on it. ;-)
Seriously folks, I can really understand the appeal of the Donald, and of course he's better than the hildebeast, but is there anyone here who thinks his 35% import car tax is a good idea or that it was well thought-out??
Not trying to start fights, just throwing out the question.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:56 AM (ntObR)
http://mcb-homis.com/slug_410/slugtest/
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2015 12:56 AM (RrDm2)
Just ponder if some Kirk progeny from "Gamesters" got loose in the universe. And what if Kirk had used his 'heater' on a gun moll on Iota?
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:56 AM (wOdHk)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:56 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: thathalfrican at December 29, 2015 12:54 AM (R5HRU)
Pretty damn nice for 57.
Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 12:56 AM (C3E0x)
Posted by: thathalfrican at December 29, 2015 12:54 AM (R5HRU)
****
No doubt. Listen to her some time.
May change your mind.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 12:57 AM (YLidQ)
She is now too respectable to pose for such a shot for her blog.
Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 29, 2015 12:57 AM (hVdx9)
Well, I would never come on here and tell a firearm was "good" when it was crap. I ain't paid by nobody.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:58 AM (nEMZE)
Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:58 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Adriane the Historical Critic ... at December 29, 2015 12:58 AM (AoK0a)
I remember when folks here were excited about the eventual ability to 3-D print guns. But... how high-quality will those guns be? Would anyone here want to put their life in the hands of a gun made from anything less than the best materials?
My hunch is that 3-D printing of a gun, if it's ever possible, is going to require *really* high-end raw materials to feed into that printer, probably ending up with a product considerably more expensive than the store-bought variety. Just my two cents.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:00 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: thathalfrican at December 29, 2015 01:00 AM (R5HRU)
The damned cell phones are assigned an 864 area code. Anywhere they are, from the land lines, I can call the number without using the area code. However, from the cell phone, I always have to use the full 10 digits to call anyone from anywhere.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 29, 2015 01:00 AM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: Zakn at December 29, 2015 01:00 AM (d2pTe)
Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 01:00 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: lindafell de spair at December 29, 2015 01:01 AM (xVgrA)
Not trying to start fights, just throwing out the question.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:56 AM (ntObR)
Well, if it got Studebaker back into the domestic car business, I'd be for it.
In case you hadn't noticed, Nissan, Toyota, VW, and BMW among others, qualify as "domestic" cars in the USA, now, at least some models. And many GM and Ford products are "hecho en Mexico, senor".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 01:01 AM (UsLZp)
Seriously folks, I can really understand the appeal of the Donald, and of course he's better than the hildebeast, but is there anyone here who thinks his 35% import car tax is a good idea or that it was well thought-out??
Not trying to start fights, just throwing out the question.
Posted by: qdpsteve
See, amigo, this is where you falter: "that it was well thought-out"
Thee Don Donald doesn't think. He feelz. He feelz deeply and he feelz often.
This is the country in which you live. The Feelz Trump the Reason or the Consistency.
Bienvenidos. Los Estados Corroptos.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 01:01 AM (9YDUz)
Posted by: a biolojy magor at December 29, 2015 01:01 AM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
---------------
Hmm.
Let's try to find out, Mike.
Posted by: John Beresford Tipton at December 29, 2015 01:01 AM (RrDm2)
It just wasn't a well-thought-out plan IMHO. Of course, has Hillary or any Dem *ever* proposed ANYTHING anywhere near well-thought-out? I'm at a loss to name anything there either. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:01 AM (ntObR)
I am getting an updated "Gamesters of Triskelion" vibe from the new Star Trek trailer ...
You?
Posted by: Adriane the TV Critic ... at December 29, 2015 01:02 AM (AoK0a)
Posted by: Zakn at December 29, 2015 01:02 AM (d2pTe)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 01:02 AM (wOdHk)
And on any night you might see them play a tune they hadn't played in years...or, ever!
Of course, you had to catch 6-7 shows to see one that rocked from start to finish.
Posted by: Garrett at December 29, 2015 01:03 AM (xF9tV)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:03 AM (ntObR)
Ah! Aaaaaahhh!
*throws away everything made East of Paris after 1946*
No, but seriously, whaa?
Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 01:03 AM (k9qR4)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 01:03 AM (I+t3J)
Posted by: lindafell de spair at December 29, 2015 01:03 AM (xVgrA)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:58 AM (nEMZE)
Oh I know that. Took you at your word. It was your description that told me it was "good enough" for self defense.
Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 01:04 AM (C3E0x)
362 eman, maybe not. I understand what Trump was trying to say, which is that he's sick of these multinationals moving jobs out of the US.
It just wasn't a well-thought-out plan IMHO. Of course, has Hillary or any Dem *ever* proposed ANYTHING anywhere near well-thought-out? I'm at a loss to name anything there either. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:01 AM (ntObR)
It is not important because it is a drop of water in a tidal wave.
Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 01:04 AM (MQEz6)
Bienvenidos. Los Estados Corroptos.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 01:01 AM (9YDUz)
*****
Yep. He has felt his way from 1 million to 10 billion. I'm kinda good with that.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:04 AM (YLidQ)
If you want to dismiss me as a spitballer, feel free. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:04 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 29, 2015 01:05 AM (Hsrut)
3-D print guns. But... how high-quality will those guns be? Would anyone
here want to put their life in the hands of a gun made from anything
less than the best materials?
---
I just liked the idea of every gun grabber knowing that capability was out here on the loose and there's not a damn thing they can do about it.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:05 AM (ZbV+0)
Arguing with a main line clog ... but fortunately, it appears to be limited to the addition line and not the kitchen / original bathroom / laundry room line.
Although Murphy's Law, Pride Goeth Before Plumbing Emergency, et cetera.
Posted by: Adriane the TV Critic ... at December 29, 2015 01:06 AM (AoK0a)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 01:06 AM (8D45C)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:06 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: Methos
-------------
You're kidding, right?
They require the registration of *toy* drones.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2015 01:07 AM (RrDm2)
Commodore Matt Decker breaking down on the aux. bridge, "Don't you think I know that! I beamed them down to safety. ... And the thing hit again knocking out the transporter. ... I had to listen to them begging to be saved and I could do nothing!"
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 01:07 AM (wOdHk)
Sure, Edith Keeler dropped out early, but I bet Kirk got some Great Depression action on the side.
Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 01:08 AM (MQEz6)
Ah! Aaaaaahhh!
*throws away everything made East of Paris after 1946*
No, but seriously, whaa?
Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 01:03 AM (k9qR4)
If all I had available to me was a zip gun that used firecrackers to propel a marble down a length of half-inch water pipe, well I guess I would trust my life to it, if the alternative was surrendering to a head-chopping jihadi armed with an AK-47.
Not that I am that badly off. But needs must.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 01:08 AM (UsLZp)
3-D print guns. But... how high-quality will those guns be? Would anyone
here want to put their life in the hands of a gun made from anything
less than the best materials?
They do this in the Third World all the time. Heck, they do it in American prisons. "Zip Guns".
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 29, 2015 01:09 AM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 01:10 AM (wOdHk)
Oh, no, worry, Blano. I was respoding upstream.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 01:10 AM (bpwcV)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:04 AM (ntObR)
No, not that! I'm just saying that "best" is kinda suspect in general. I mean, I happily shoot a SMLE No 1 Mk III*, and if you want to claim that's made from anything approaching `best` you're insane.
Also:
Damascus 12ga shotguns.
Anything AK-
Any Austrian pistol.
But they work, right?
Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 01:10 AM (k9qR4)
put their life in the hands of a gun made from anything less than the
best materials?"
Good enough once to get you a better gun IYKWIMAITYD
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at December 29, 2015 01:10 AM (Kucy5)
Not trying to start fights, just throwing out the question.
Posted by: qdpsteve
Well, I'm generally an anti-tariff guy, but I can see making an exception here.
Disclaimer: forgive me if I'm wrong, and I haven't researched this lately, so experts feel free to tell me otherwise.
But IIRC, American cars are still heavily tariffed by the Japanese, which partly explains why so few American cars are/were sold there.
I'm no union goon, but this issue, if it's still out there, has gone on for 30+ years. I would have no problem with the Donald saying "ok, we're just gonna do what Japan is doing" and stiffing Japanese automakers with the same tariff as those on American cars.
If the Japanese want to stop it, then get rid of their tariffs. Period. I'd be ok with the Donald doing something like that.
Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 01:11 AM (C3E0x)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:11 AM (ntObR)
381 Adriane, you mean Star Trek:Beyond? To me, after Chris Pine manages to lose his starship, no wonder the Klingons sneer at humans just throwing away spaceships like that, and they land in their escape pods on Mad Max World - well after that I said "Nope! No way."
Commodore Matt Decker breaking down on the aux. bridge, "Don't you think I know that! I beamed them down to safety. ... And the thing hit again knocking out the transporter. ... I had to listen to them begging to be saved and I could do nothing!"
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 01:07 AM (wOdHk)
It does look stupid. Kirk's hair looks it came from a Seinfeld episode, and the new uniforms look like they should be hailing taxis for VIPs.
Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 01:11 AM (MQEz6)
Then I'd appoint Roxy Raye to something, make up some title. Maybe promote National Colonoscopy Day or something. Her true purpose would be to demonstrate very graphically what's going to happen to the bureaucracy you if you fucked with me.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 29, 2015 01:11 AM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 01:10 AM (bpwcV)
(breathes sigh of relief, pours another drink)
Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 01:11 AM (C3E0x)
They are worth the money. Unfortunately.
Posted by: Zakn at December 29, 2015 01:12 AM (d2pTe)
---
A friend of mine told me about how one of his nephews got a Millenium Falcon drone and they crashed it trying to do a loop.
I told them about the FAA regulation and everyone just laughed about it. I have a feeling drone registration will be about as successful as the NY gun registration was.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:13 AM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:06 AM (ntObR)
Everybody blathers about 3-D printing guns, and I'm sure it's possible, for some values of "possible". But nobody talks about making 3-D printed ammo. Because you can't 3-D "print" stuff with unique chemical properties. Yet.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 01:13 AM (UsLZp)
Ricardo, you bring up an excellent point.
I remember when folks here were excited about the eventual ability
to 3-D print guns. But... how high-quality will those guns be? Would
anyone here want to put their life in the hands of a gun made from
anything less than the best materials?
My hunch is that 3-D printing of a gun, if it's ever possible, is
going to require *really* high-end raw materials to feed into that
printer, probably ending up with a product considerably more expensive
than the store-bought variety. Just my two cents.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:00 AM (ntObR)
The part of a gun that is legally a "gun" and not an "accessory" is the lower -- the part that holds the trigger and handle. The part that has the most effect on accuracy is the barrel. You can 3D print a "gun" that is half-assed crap, put a decent barrel and other parts on it, and have a nice gun.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:13 AM (EzgxV)
I could certainly stand to learn more about guns, their history, their manufacture, the various types, etc etc.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:13 AM (ntObR)
I remember when folks here were excited about the eventual ability to 3-D print guns. But... how high-quality will those guns be? Would anyone here want to put their life in the hands of a gun made from anything less than the best materials?
My hunch is that 3-D printing of a gun, if it's ever possible, is going to require *really* high-end raw materials to feed into that printer, probably ending up with a product considerably more expensive than the store-bought variety. Just my two cents.
Posted by: qdpsteve
Why do you think sintering and other metal working tech is outside the reach of 3d tech?
More to the point, why should anyone think that 3d tech is at some economical end point?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 01:14 AM (9YDUz)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 01:15 AM (wOdHk)
(breathes sigh of relief, pours another drink)"
Not required. That little shotty is a dandy of home desense gun.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 01:15 AM (yOYgZ)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:15 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:13 AM (ntObR)
You will learn much here. Every time guns come up here, I take notes.
Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 01:15 AM (C3E0x)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:16 AM (ntObR)
For such and old school blogosphere joke too. I'm fucking dying
Posted by: Zakn at December 29, 2015 12:51 AM (d2pTe)
Eh, that's not the reason it sets off the spam filter. Its because of those boots Tom Brady is so fond of. Same reason the Ravens Linebacker Terrell Sugs sometimes set off the spam filter too when his name is spelled correctly with 2 g's.
Posted by: buzzion at December 29, 2015 01:16 AM (zt+N6)
You would be amazed at how well those perform if they never suffered from corrosion.
Most of the nightmares you hear about those are due to corrosion weakened barrels, not the steel itself.
Posted by: Garrett at December 29, 2015 01:17 AM (/g6B/)
I have a buddy who is a licensed plumber. He'll tell you it's silly. I mean, there's a pretty big "don't be a retard" factor, but if you're over that hump, it's not rocket surgery. Make sure your drain lines have an adequate slope and a couple of well-placed clean outs. Make sure that you aren't trying to stitch lead pipes to incoming copper. Don't try to patch leaky black iron pipes with coffee cans and putty. Oh, and don't run PEX right next to windows without wrapping it to protect it from UV. Tsk.
Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 01:20 AM (k9qR4)
No one will ever be able to stop people from getting weapons.
Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 01:20 AM (MQEz6)
I'm a dum dum.
Posted by: qdpsteve
No sarc needed, amigo. Just blaze away.
The ghostgun printer is pretty much unstoppable at this point; yes, not a true printer. It's a mini-mill with limited function.
The point being that the cat, or ghat rather is out of the bag.
There are enough schemas out on the net to null and void the banning of the technical knowledge of engineering firearms at a distance.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 01:21 AM (9YDUz)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:16 AM (ntObR)
Search "home-made guns" or similar on Youtube. There is a shit-load of stuff there. I saw one quite-detailed work-up on a .22 caliber submachine gun. It worked; emptied a 20-round mag in about a half-second. "Buzz-click." And if you had a hacksaw, vise, and welder, you could make it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 01:21 AM (UsLZp)
Posted by: buzzion at December 29, 2015 01:22 AM (zt+N6)
And was just kidding around with my dum dum comment. Again, not trying to cast aspersions or play head games with anybody here. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:22 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:13 AM (ZbV+0)
*****
Well, except for that $250k/incident fee thingy, you may he right.
For all of the wrong reasons, they are dead serious about this.
The heavy hand squashes again.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:23 AM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Anna Puma
No mecha, no peace!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 01:23 AM (9YDUz)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:23 AM (ntObR)
happen. Johnny Manziel might be benched for the final game of the
season for a 10 second video from Christmas Eve. They told him no more
social media videos of him partying, and well there it is.
Posted by: buzzion at December 29, 2015 01:22 AM (zt+N6)<<<
What an idiot. He'll never learn.
Posted by: Josh Gordon at December 29, 2015 01:24 AM (H9MG5)
AOP and cthulhu, I was ignorant of those factors as well. Thanks.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:15 AM (ntObR)
I was, myself, until a couple of months back. Then I took a basic familiarity/training course and invested in some range time. I now know enough to fumble my way through just about everything, and I'm showing improvement in ways that are important to me.
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
--Robert A. Heinlein
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:25 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:26 AM (ntObR)
I told them about the FAA regulation and everyone just laughed about it.
I have a feeling drone registration will be about as successful as the
NY gun registration was.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:13 AM (ZbV+0)
*****
Well, except for that $250k/incident fee thingy, you may he right.
For all of the wrong reasons, they are dead serious about this.
The heavy hand squashes again.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:23 AM (YLidQ)
413
I told them about the FAA regulation and everyone just laughed about it.
I have a feeling drone registration will be about as successful as the
NY gun registration was.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:13 AM (ZbV+0)
*****
Well, except for that $250k/incident fee thingy, you may he right.
For all of the wrong reasons, they are dead serious about this.
The heavy hand squashes again.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:23 AM (YLidQ)
Most of that goes away if you walk away from anything captured.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:28 AM (EzgxV)
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Let them fine a 10 year old a quarter million and impound the Falcon.
Please, please, please.
I can see the million drone march on Washington already.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:30 AM (ZbV+0)
Most of the nightmares you hear about those are due to corrosion weakened barrels, not the steel itself.
Posted by: Garrett at December 29, 2015 01:17 AM (/g6B/)
They're okay, I've used 'em without problems. But they're metalurgically inferior, because damascus steel isn't as well constructed as something that doesn't have dozens (to hundreds) of weld lines to make it pretty. It's all about application: damascus knives and swords are a good use of the materiel; shotgun barrels are not.
They're fine as long as you don't approach their yield limits, but they're not something to be treated like a 590, what with loading up wax slugs in high-brass and such.
Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 01:31 AM (k9qR4)
Posted by: qdpsteve
CNC/CADCAM machinery is pretty much a common place concept across machining industries to the point that it doesn't require any specific firearm specific machine to render the future brownshirts' dreams fantasy.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 01:31 AM (9YDUz)
OMG, will there be panic.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:31 AM (ntObR)
weft-cut, it also sounds like if enough of those mini-mills get out
there... it doesn't matter what the DC nannies have to say, guns and
their manufacture are here to stay.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:26 AM (ntObR)
You mean the mini-mills you can get from Harbor Freight for $400 (sale + 25%-off coupon)?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:32 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:28 AM (EzgxV)
****
Not if you're Govvy assigned number is on it. Leads right to your door, and oh, they intend to publish names and addresses.
Ain't that just special?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:32 AM (YLidQ)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:33 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:26 AM (ntObR)
You, or I, or anyone here, can buy a mini-mill for under a thousand bucks. And with a mini-mill, you can take an "80%" AR-15 lower receiver, and complete the machining operations to make it 100%, ready to accept the barrel, bolt, and all the other parts.
But don't think that you "need" a mill to make a perfectly serviceable gun. A lathe, drill press, and basic metal-working hand tools will make whatever you might want. You think the gunsmiths who made the rifles and muskets used in the Revolutionary War had 3-axis mills and electric-powered lathes? But they made deadly weapons, nonetheless.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 01:33 AM (UsLZp)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:34 AM (ntObR)
Just wait 'til the first privately owned drone manages to work its way through an open window at the WH.
OMG, will there be panic.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:31 AM (ntObR)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNPJMk2fgJU
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:35 AM (EzgxV)
OMG, will there be panic.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:31 AM (ntObR)
*****
As just an amateur hobbyist UAV ( NOT DRONE!) pilot, I could land one in the SS's leads hand from 300 yards away. These regs are a joke.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (YLidQ)
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According to the guy who makes drones that was interviewed on FBN recently, the only registration is online, after you have it. So all you need to do is not register it.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (Hsrut)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (wOdHk)
"Dance for me, rummy!!"
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: Bubba at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (zZIKl)
Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (mUsVF)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 01:33 AM (UsLZp)
Good point. But, they had an institutional accumulation of thousands of hours of making and testing (that killed plenty of testers) that we (who don't make weapons every day) don't have. It's tough to replicate that.
Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (k9qR4)
Who knows. Michelle might like her new 'alterations.'
("Stop staring at my ass!!")
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:38 AM (ntObR)
Most of that goes away if you walk away from anything captured.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:28 AM (EzgxV)
****
Not if you're Govvy assigned number is on it. Leads right to your door, and oh, they intend to publish names and addresses.
Ain't that just special?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:32 AM (YLidQ)
You're assuming anybody is going to actually register. I'll put $5 on < 10%.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:38 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:39 AM (ntObR)
That would be a great one: Everybody in the WH, including the president, running screaming from dozens of drones flying through.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:41 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (ZbV+0)
*****
A whole lotta people make "UAVs". Not just one guy.
Your theory sounds good, unless you are caught flying an unregistered UAV. Then? Up to a $250k fine, first offense.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:42 AM (YLidQ)
Yeah, ask 'em about how that worked for the CB craze in the late '70s.
First, they're not Drones, but Remotely Piloted Vehicles (RPVs) /pedant.
Second, I'd be sorely tempted to load a full flight path program to an iFone, turn it into a true "drone", and have it fly a bomb run to drop a quart of chicken shit right atop the Congressional Dome.
Good for them, I can't afford such an extravagance right now. Damn shoulder.
But it'd be fun to watch if someone else took that same notion and run with it.
*grin*
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 29, 2015 01:42 AM (McRlu)
The dems will be calling for mill control very soon. ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:34 AM (ntObR)
It wouldn't surprise me if they did. Because stupid insists upon itself. But I have everything I need, right now, in my shop to make guns. But I use the tools for automotive work, mostly. And I have never made a gun. But I could, if I put my mind to it. I guarantee you that I have suitable scrap metal on hand to make a pistol or a long gun. because metal suitable for that use is also suitable for many other applications. The only operation that I don't know for sure I could manage is rifling a barrel. But smoothbores work fine, if accuracy at a distance isn't a design requirement.
This isn't any kind of a brag on my part. Just trying to make clear that making an operable gun is well within the purview of any handy kind of person with a decently-equipped shop.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 01:45 AM (UsLZp)
Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 01:46 AM (k9qR4)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:38 AM (EzgxV)
*****
Initially, sure. Once they have fucked over several powerless individuals for non compliance, think peeps might fall in line?
Now you see why the initial penalty is so stout.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:46 AM (YLidQ)
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You're right. We should all definitely cower before government because they might try to rob us.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:47 AM (ZbV+0)
You think the gunsmiths who made the rifles and muskets used in the
Revolutionary War had 3-axis mills and electric-powered lathes? But they
made deadly weapons, nonetheless.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 01:33 AM (UsLZp)
Good point. But, they had an institutional accumulation of
thousands of hours of making and testing (that killed plenty of testers)
that we (who don't make weapons every day) don't have. It's tough to
replicate that.
Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (k9qR4)
437
You think the gunsmiths who made the rifles and muskets used in the
Revolutionary War had 3-axis mills and electric-powered lathes? But they
made deadly weapons, nonetheless.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 01:33 AM (UsLZp)
Good point. But, they had an institutional accumulation of
thousands of hours of making and testing (that killed plenty of testers)
that we (who don't make weapons every day) don't have. It's tough to
replicate that.
Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (k9qR4)
The reason that the 1911 design is called that is because it was accepted by the Army in that year, having been a John Moses Browning (PBUH) design submitted by Colt. Browning built all of his prototypes by hand (no CNC) on mills and lathes less precise and capable than can be purchased today at 1/10 the inflation-adjusted price of those he used.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:48 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 01:48 AM (Xo1Rt)
According to the guy who makes drones that was interviewed on FBN
recently, the only registration is online, after you have it. So all you
need to do is not register it.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (ZbV+0)
*****
A whole lotta people make "UAVs". Not just one guy.
Your theory sounds good, unless you are caught flying an unregistered UAV. Then? Up to a $250k fine, first offense.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:42 AM (YLidQ)
They're going to get a scuttle-button. People aren't going to register.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:49 AM (EzgxV)
"Thank you for calling Murder, Inc. All of our henchman are on other calls right now. Please hold. To murder a family member or loved one, press 1. To murder a public figure or politician, press 2. To create a murderous scene designed to make some sort of sociological or political point, press 3. For all other mass killing needs, stay on the line. Your rage is very important to us..."
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:52 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 01:52 AM (C3E0x)
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:47 AM (ZbV+0)
***
You're missing a little or a lot of context in my upstream comments, methinks. I am explaining what the law is currently, not what I support or agree with.
You have grocked that, right?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:52 AM (YLidQ)
Your theory sounds good, unless you are caught flying an unregistered UAV. Then? Up to a $250k fine, first offense.
---
You're right. We should all definitely cower before government because they might try to rob us.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:47 AM (ZbV+0)
Come to think of it -- the "scuttle" command might just arm an explosive on tampering. You wouldn't use it if you lost the drone in the woods, but if you saw a government asshole scoop it up.....
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:53 AM (EzgxV)
But failed to anticipate the fax machine and cassette tape.
Dot Gov might have a handle on the mini mill and even this generation's 3d printer.
But "NEXT" will kick their ass, every time.
Keep NEXTing, Horde.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 29, 2015 01:53 AM (McRlu)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:49 AM (EzgxV)
****
Not sure why you chose to selectively edit, but please see 453.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:55 AM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (k9qR4)
But we have, vicariously, all that old knowledge, written down in manuals, in books, and on the Internet. And we have access to hundreds of tons of high-grade steel, better than the gunsmiths of the 18th Century ever dreamed of. Car axles. Steering shafts. Truck axles, PTO shafts. Torsion bars, you name it. Some already with a bore down their length, musket barrels ready-made!
Liberator pistols, do-it-yourself style.
Am I going to rush out and build a bunch of home-made guns? While I can still buy good ones? No way. But I have the means to do so, and so do thousands upon thousands of people in the USA, Canada, and most every other Western country that has a home workshop tradition. You don't need special purpose-built gun-smithing tools to make one-offs, and that was my entire point.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 01:56 AM (UsLZp)
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Yes. I'm saying Americans should do their duty to nullify the busybodies attempts to control us in practice and in quantity.
Conveniently this will also be what people do if they haven't heard, don't care, or are lazy.
Seriously let them try to fine someone a quarter million dollars for a hobby. It's another 5% bump for Trump and grow the general rejection of government.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:57 AM (ZbV+0)
The Soviets restricted typewriters and mimeograph machines.
But failed to anticipate the fax machine and cassette tape.
Dot Gov might have a handle on the mini mill and even this generation's 3d printer.
But "NEXT" will kick their ass, every time.
Keep NEXTing, Horde.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 29, 2015 01:53 AM (McRlu)
When government is something to be shoved down from the elites onto the bitter clingers, there will always be a call to control and disarm the populace.
By comparison, when Andrew Jackson received a 1400 pound wheel of cheddar as a gift, he invited all those in Washington to enter the White House and carve themselves off a chunk with knives. http://www.mentalfloss.com/article /27228/andrew-jacksons-big-block-cheese .
Probably helping with security was the fact that AJ had killed several people in duels, was a war hero, and was generally armed.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:02 AM (EzgxV)
Conveniently this will also be what people do if they haven't heard, don't care, or are lazy.
Seriously let them try to fine someone a quarter million dollars for a hobby. It's another 5% bump for Trump and grow the general rejection of government.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:57 AM (ZbV+0)
*****
Awesome.
So, I can pen you in as the test case that will cost you $250k in legal fees, to make your point, right?
Cuz, that is what it's gonna take. Easy to talk big. Tougher to back it up with real world consequences.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:02 AM (YLidQ)
I'd cut the cheese with you, anytime.
Well, nearly. But not in a closed elevator, okay?
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 29, 2015 02:04 AM (McRlu)
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You've apparently missed the part where I said people won't bother registering because they don't know or are lazy. Which I backed up with a discussion of people I know who laughed away the idea of registering their drone because it's obviously silly.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:06 AM (ZbV+0)
For those looking for stuff about homemade firearms (for entertainment purposes only) look up a guy names P.A. Luty.
A Brit (he's dead now) who made some variations on the sten out of commonly available metal tubes, pipes and solids.
He was harassed by the Brits and served time for having 1 bullet in his house. (you're not allowed to have bullets unless you have a gun for it and you have to have a license and registered the weapon.)
You can search and find his entire book under various names by searching his name or the title "Expedient Homemade Firearms"
Or you can buy it (if it's still available) from Amazon using the convenient Amazon button on the home page right here.
Caution: Any cartridge has a high explosive charge contained within. Setting off that cartridge could do serious damage and/or kill you or someone nearby. Do your research on metal tubing maximum pressures and on the pressures exerted by various calibers of cartridges. Use remote triggered setups to fire any homemade weapons and understand that they will not have the longevity of manufactured weapons. After each use they should be either discarded or examined thoroughly for damage done by that usage. Cracks, bulges, misalignments and any sort of binding should be examined for the reason of occurrence.
DO NOT let others see you making them, firing them or carrying them. Tell no one what you are doing. It's a multi thousand dollar fine and minimum 5 years in Federal Prison for violations. That's if you make a submachine gun (which is what Luty built) or a silencer. If you make a normal gun (but it has to be one that doesn't use the blowback design as the BATF has stated that this design can be easily converted to auto fire. Which is true) that fires once with on pull of the trigger, you will not be in violation of manufacturing a weapon. Know the laws, have an attorney on retainer and put all your property in some else's name otherwise.
Good luck.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 02:07 AM (Xo1Rt)
They're going to get a scuttle-button. People aren't going to register.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:49 AM (EzgxV)
****
Not sure why you chose to selectively edit, but please see 453.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:55 AM (YLidQ)
No selective editing -- I just think the law is a loud fart if not obeyed or enforced. I don't think it'll be obeyed, and I don't think it will be successfully enforced even after politicians start getting regularly assassinated (which, sadly, I believe will happen), because any attempt at enforcement will result in targeting the enforcers.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:09 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2015 02:09 AM (oFSUK)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2015 02:10 AM (oFSUK)
Cooth,
I'd cut the cheese with you, anytime.
Well, nearly. But not in a closed elevator, okay?
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 29, 2015 02:04 AM (McRlu)
How 'bout we meet at some neutral spot, sometime?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:12 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2015 02:09 AM (oFSUK)
Heh.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 02:12 AM (UsLZp)
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:06 AM (ZbV+0)
****
Possibly so, so let me try this one more time.
Government has been embarrased by UAV incicents. Govt. likes nothing less being embarassed. So, regs are now in place, which are ridiculous on their face and at their core.
Regardless, regs will be enforced by making examples out of those who do not concede. We have seen this movie before, never ends well.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:14 AM (YLidQ)
Merry Christmas.
For those looking for stuff about homemade firearms (for entertainment purposes only) look up a guy names P.A. Luty.
463
Merry Christmas.
For those looking for stuff about homemade firearms (for entertainment purposes only) look up a guy names P.A. Luty.
A Brit (he's dead now) who made some variations on the sten out of commonly available metal tubes, pipes and solids.
He
was harassed by the Brits and served time for having 1 bullet in his
house. (you're not allowed to have bullets unless you have a gun for it
and you have to have a license and registered the weapon.)
You can search and find his entire book under various names by searching his name or the title "Expedient Homemade Firearms"
Or you can buy it (if it's still available) from Amazon using the convenient Amazon button on the home page right here.
Caution:
Any cartridge has a high explosive charge contained within. Setting off
that cartridge could do serious damage and/or kill you or someone
nearby. Do your research on metal tubing maximum pressures and on the
pressures exerted by various calibers of cartridges. Use remote
triggered setups to fire any homemade weapons and understand that they
will not have the longevity of manufactured weapons. After each use they
should be either discarded or examined thoroughly for damage done by
that usage. Cracks, bulges, misalignments and any sort of binding should
be examined for the reason of occurrence.
DO NOT let others see
you making them, firing them or carrying them. Tell no one what you are
doing. It's a multi thousand dollar fine and minimum 5 years in Federal
Prison for violations. That's if you make a submachine gun (which is
what Luty built) or a silencer. If you make a normal gun (but it has to
be one that doesn't use the blowback design as the BATF has stated that
this design can be easily converted to auto fire. Which is true) that
fires once with on pull of the trigger, you will not be in violation of
manufacturing a weapon. Know the laws, have an attorney on retainer and
put all your property in some else's name otherwise.
Good luck.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 02:07 AM (Xo1Rt)
Some of his other works are available to download for free....you might not need them just now.....
A Brit (he's dead now) who made some variations on the sten out of commonly available metal tubes, pipes and solids.
He
was harassed by the Brits and served time for having 1 bullet in his
house. (you're not allowed to have bullets unless you have a gun for it
and you have to have a license and registered the weapon.)
You can search and find his entire book under various names by searching his name or the title "Expedient Homemade Firearms"
Or you can buy it (if it's still available) from Amazon using the convenient Amazon button on the home page right here.
Caution:
Any cartridge has a high explosive charge contained within. Setting off
that cartridge could do serious damage and/or kill you or someone
nearby. Do your research on metal tubing maximum pressures and on the
pressures exerted by various calibers of cartridges. Use remote
triggered setups to fire any homemade weapons and understand that they
will not have the longevity of manufactured weapons. After each use they
should be either discarded or examined thoroughly for damage done by
that usage. Cracks, bulges, misalignments and any sort of binding should
be examined for the reason of occurrence.
DO NOT let others see
you making them, firing them or carrying them. Tell no one what you are
doing. It's a multi thousand dollar fine and minimum 5 years in Federal
Prison for violations. That's if you make a submachine gun (which is
what Luty built) or a silencer. If you make a normal gun (but it has to
be one that doesn't use the blowback design as the BATF has stated that
this design can be easily converted to auto fire. Which is true) that
fires once with on pull of the trigger, you will not be in violation of
manufacturing a weapon. Know the laws, have an attorney on retainer and
put all your property in some else's name otherwise.
Good luck.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 02:07 AM (Xo1Rt)
Some of his other works are available to download for free....you might not need them just now.....
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:15 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:09 AM (EzgxV)
*****
Wow. No further comment on this topic to you from here.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:16 AM (YLidQ)
See you all tomorrow night hopefully.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 02:17 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: the Barrel at December 29, 2015 02:18 AM (UsLZp)
not concede. We have seen this movie before, never ends well.
---
I remain in favor of humiliating government whenever possible. I think the PR price they pay is well worth a fine that will never be paid because no one in this economy has that kind of money lying around and no jury would stand for it.
They want to publish names and addresses of folks with drones?
Then we publish names and addresses of anyone involved trying to enforce this bullshit.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:18 AM (ZbV+0)
You've apparently missed the part where I said people won't bother
registering because they don't know or are lazy. Which I backed up with a
discussion of people I know who laughed away the idea of registering
their drone because it's obviously silly.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:06 AM (ZbV+0)
****
Possibly so, so let me try this one more time.
Government has been embarrased by UAV incicents. Govt. likes nothing
less being embarassed. So, regs are now in place, which are ridiculous
on their face and at their core.
Regardless, regs will be enforced by making examples out of those
who do not concede. We have seen this movie before, never ends well.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:14 AM (YLidQ)
A third of the quadcopters out there are homebuilt, a third are customized, and a third are products. Anyone who has built a homebuilt quadcopter can build another one.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:19 AM (EzgxV)
They want to publish names and addresses of folks with drones?
Then we publish names and addresses of anyone involved trying to enforce this bullshit.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:18 AM (ZbV+0)
****
Wow. You really think there would just be a PR cost? Good luck with all of that. Let me know how it turns out for you.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:22 AM (YLidQ)
customized, and a third are products. Anyone who has built a homebuilt
quadcopter can build another one
---
And customize it as we've seen tonight, or the Thanksgiving flamethrower version.
Or as mentioned up thread, the chickenshit bucket version (which of course is a great improvement on the original tar and feather concept).
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:23 AM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:19 AM (EzgxV)
*****
I am aware of that, as I know how to build them from scratch.
What is your point?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:24 AM (YLidQ)
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Government is the one paying the PR cost.
Take a step back from your respect of government's capacity for a moment and picture them bankrupting a family out of sheer spite for a Christmas toy.
Right into the maw of a culture that has one half that can't get past how it feels about anything that's "unfair" and the other predispsoed to hating this government already (see also obamacare premiums).
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:28 AM (ZbV+0)
No selective editing -- I just think the law is a loud fart if not
obeyed or enforced. I don't think it'll be obeyed, and I don't think it
will be successfully enforced even after politicians start getting
regularly assassinated (which, sadly, I believe will happen), because
any attempt at enforcement will result in targeting the enforcers.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:09 AM (EzgxV)
*****
Wow. No further comment on this topic to you from here.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:16 AM (YLidQ)
*snort*
We're heading into a period of turbulence akin to the '60s. Am I supposed to pretend that MLK, JFK, Bobby Kennedy, and the others didn't happen? I believe that political assassination will become more prevalent over the next decade -- and for this common-sense observation, I get "Wow. No further comment on this topic to you from here." Way to go PC in the face of reality, champ.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:31 AM (EzgxV)
Right into the maw of a culture that has one half that can't get past how it feels about anything that's "unfair" and the other predispsoed to hating this government already (see also obamacare premiums).
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:28 AM (ZbV+0
***
I'll leave you to deal with that fantasy, I'll hang here in reality.
BarryCare got in here somehow? Oh well, just reinforces my point.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:31 AM (YLidQ)
The FCC basically gave up trying to control the 11-meter CB radios. Enforcement proved to be useless. Maybe they still enforce flagrant violations of the CB ground rules, like kilowatt linears and suchlike. I sort of hope so. But you and I can go out an buy and use a 40-channel CB without any let or hindrance.
Perhaps that's how it will evolve with drones. Use a drone to annoy people, especially the "elite", and the G-men will be on your ass. Use it to photograph scenery or wildlife, and don't piss people off, and the Feds will never bat an eye.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 02:32 AM (UsLZp)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:31 AM (EzgxV)
*****
I find your premises to be pretty whack Sport. All else flows from there. Have fun with your delusions. I want no part of them.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:34 AM (YLidQ)
I remain in favor of humiliating government whenever possible. I think
the PR price they pay is well worth a fine that will never be paid
because no one in this economy has that kind of money lying around and
no jury would stand for it.
They want to publish names and addresses of folks with drones?
Then we publish names and addresses of anyone involved trying to enforce this bullshit.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:18 AM (ZbV+0)
****
Wow. You really think there would just be a PR cost? Good luck with all of that. Let me know how it turns out for you.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:22 AM (YLidQ)
476
I remain in favor of humiliating government whenever possible. I think
the PR price they pay is well worth a fine that will never be paid
because no one in this economy has that kind of money lying around and
no jury would stand for it.
They want to publish names and addresses of folks with drones?
Then we publish names and addresses of anyone involved trying to enforce this bullshit.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:18 AM (ZbV+0)
****
Wow. You really think there would just be a PR cost? Good luck with all of that. Let me know how it turns out for you.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:22 AM (YLidQ)
So, you're advocating open war? You'd better hope it's just about PR cost.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:34 AM (EzgxV)
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What fantasy?
You said they want to make an example of someone. They can't do that without being very public about it. I think given the general mood right now, that backfires on them.
The fine is meaningless. At this point even if they find a way to make it stick, I suspect the rest of us would find a way to crowdfund it out of existence, just to make a counter example.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:37 AM (ZbV+0)
A third of the quadcopters out there are homebuilt, a third are
customized, and a third are products. Anyone who has built a homebuilt
quadcopter can build another one.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:19 AM (EzgxV)
*****
I am aware of that, as I know how to build them from scratch.
What is your point?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:24 AM (YLidQ)
My point is they won't be registered. The people who bought them as toys won't register toys. The people who bought them with purpose won't register them 'cause laws don't apply to them. And the people who build 'em from scratch won't register them because the components of their quadcopter might be in a hexcopter next week.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:37 AM (EzgxV)
Don't break the furniture, or Ace will be pissed.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 02:38 AM (UsLZp)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:34 AM (EzgxV)
*****
Please show me, very specifically, where that was ever advocated, Champ.
You really aren't very good at this. May wanna hang it up. Your call.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:38 AM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Ralph at December 29, 2015 02:41 AM (D/1P4)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:37 AM (EzgxV)
****
You are amazingly ignorant of this topic you have for some reason chosen to pontificate about. You do know that, right?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:41 AM (YLidQ)
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congress has something like 8% approval. 3/4 of the country tell pollsters that government is the biggest threat to any of us around rather than global warming or obama's pet project ISIS. A plurality of gop voters are pushing a candidate solely on the hopes of fucking with the party and D.C. The federal reserves money printing games are at an end and they are desperately trying to get out of the way so they can pretend the deep depression they've deepened in their efforts to put it off isn't their fault when the bottom inevitably falls out of the markets.
If you think we've got all sweetness and light ahead of us, I think you're the one that's pretty whack.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:44 AM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:44 AM (ZbV+0)
****
That first little bit you quoted was directed to someone else. As for the rest, meh.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:46 AM (YLidQ)
So, you're advocating open war? You'd better hope it's just about PR cost.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:34 AM (EzgxV)
*****
Please show me, very specifically, where that was ever advocated, Champ.
You really aren't very good at this. May wanna hang it up. Your call.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:38 AM (YLidQ)
I am predicting, based on best available data, what will happen despite all our best hopes otherwise; you are pitching this as advocacy. I am pointing out that refusing to allow for the possibility of such chaos clearly increases the odds of it coming to pass -- and, specifically, that attempting to gloss-over multiple causus belli as "PR" is de facto a call to open war. The problems won't go away if you try to paint them as PR and pretend they don't exist....they'll become wars.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:52 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:52 AM (EzgxV)
****
So, no evidence of a call for war on my part, despite your claim to the contrary. Got it. Thank you.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:54 AM (YLidQ)
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Well, okay, I retract the whack comment.
I don't think cooth was advocating, but suggesting that people are likely to act in chaotic times as they have in other chaotic times because human nature has not improved. I'm not seeing why you think that's unlikely (if that's your position).
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:54 AM (ZbV+0)
If you think we've got all sweetness and light ahead of us, I think you're the one that's pretty whack.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:44 AM (ZbV+0)
****
That first little bit you quoted was directed to someone else. As for the rest, meh.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:46 AM (YLidQ)
492
If you think we've got all sweetness and light ahead of us, I think you're the one that's pretty whack.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:44 AM (ZbV+0)
****
That first little bit you quoted was directed to someone else. As for the rest, meh.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:46 AM (YLidQ)
I think Methos is talking sense and you're talking nonsense, for what it's worth.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:54 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:58 AM (ZbV+0)
The problems won't go away if you try to paint them as PR and pretend they don't exist....they'll become wars.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:52 AM (EzgxV)
****
So, no evidence of a call for war on my part, despite your claim to the contrary. Got it. Thank you.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:54 AM (YLidQ)
You're denying the alternatives to wars. Which is the sort of spacey fuzzy feel-good that ends up with a lot of dead people. The Russians had a whole lot of alternatives with the Kulaks that they denied; the Maoists had a whole lot of alternatives with the intellectuals that they denied. Stalin and Mao were both peace-loving people that had no choice.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:58 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:54 AM (EzgxV)
****
Well, Bless your heart, of course you do!
Now, about all that talk about my hobby you are so certain about at 490.....thoughts?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:00 AM (YLidQ)
Cooth, do you have any idea why you're getting doubles when you quote us in your comments?
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:58 AM (ZbV+0)
I have some ideas, but I haven't nailed 'em down yet or they wouldn't be happening. And, yes, I'm aware.
Thank you for the gracious way of asking.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:01 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 29, 2015 03:01 AM (iQIUe)
I think Methos is talking sense and you're talking nonsense, for what it's worth.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:54 AM (EzgxV)
****
Well, Bless your heart, of course you do!
Now, about all that talk about my hobby you are so certain about at 490.....thoughts?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:00 AM (YLidQ)
499
I think Methos is talking sense and you're talking nonsense, for what it's worth.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:54 AM (EzgxV)
****
Well, Bless your heart, of course you do!
Now, about all that talk about my hobby you are so certain about at 490.....thoughts?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:00 AM (YLidQ)
Are you registering?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:02 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:58 AM (EzgxV)
****
You stated I was calling for war. I refuted, with evidence. Why is this so hard for you?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:03 AM (YLidQ)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:02 AM (EzgxV)
****
Not gonna play that. You answer my 490 first.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:04 AM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 03:07 AM (mUsVF)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 29, 2015 03:09 AM (Z8xbi)
Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 03:07 AM (mUsVF)
*****
Not quite, as this time I'm actually here and responding, as opposed to a Sunday afternoon Ace thread where you bravely let it all hang out...in my absence.
Real profile in balls there....
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:10 AM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 03:15 AM (ZbV+0)
You're denying the alternatives to wars. Which is the sort of spacey
fuzzy feel-good that ends up with a lot of dead people. The Russians had
a whole lot of alternatives with the Kulaks that they denied; the
Maoists had a whole lot of alternatives with the intellectuals that they
denied. Stalin and Mao were both peace-loving people that had no
choice.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:58 AM (EzgxV)
****
You stated I was calling for war. I refuted, with evidence. Why is this so hard for you?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:03 AM (YLidQ)
Let me put this to you straight and clear -- read the Declaration of Independence. It puts forth the proposition that continual slights might add up to revolutionary change, especially if there are no mechanisms to rectify the slights short of revolution.
I postulated that slights exist, and said there were still remedies short of outright war -- and you said those remedies were inconsequential PR. If you agree the slights exist (and I have seen no argument on that point) and you state that remedies are inconsequential, then you argue for war.
Mind you, I never said that you directly advocated for war -- I stated that your rejection of alternatives was tantamount to a declaration of war.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:16 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:16 AM (YLidQ)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/pmbflu9
Surprised this story hasn't already been noted on the HQ yet...
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 29, 2015 03:19 AM (Z8xbi)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:16 AM (EzgxV)
So, you're advocating open war? You'd better hope it's just about PR cost.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:34 AM (EzgxV)
****
Sure. Go with that denial.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:19 AM (YLidQ)
Are you registering?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:02 AM (EzgxV)
****
Not gonna play that. You answer my 490 first.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:04 AM (YLidQ)
Of all the stupid places to point....
490: "You are amazingly ignorant of this topic you have for some reason chosen to pontificate about. You do know that, right?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:41 AM (YLidQ)"
OK -- here's your answer for 490 -- "no, I think I'm pretty much up-to-speed on the topic, thanks."
So, you registering?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:21 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:23 AM (EzgxV)
490: "You are amazingly ignorant of this topic you have for some reason chosen to pontificate about. You do know that, right?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:41 AM (YLidQ)"
OK -- here's your answer for 490 -- "no, I think I'm pretty much up-to-speed on the topic, thanks."
So, you registering?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:21 AM (EzgxV)
***
Gonna register them just as much as my guns are registered.
Looking forward to future responses. Based on your answers and slap down returns tonight, you may wanna hold onto that stupid tag for yourself.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:26 AM (YLidQ)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:28 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: The Political Hat
--------------------
Me too, Hat. I read the article yesterday, and was waiting for ace to go off on a good rant.
Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 03:30 AM (mUsVF)
Posted by: The Political Hat
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Me too, Hat. I read the article yesterday, and was waiting for ace to go off on a good rant.
Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 03:30 AM (mUsVF)
Doesn't Ace live in NYC? Perhaps he's already being threatened with fines...
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 29, 2015 03:32 AM (Z8xbi)
You win some, lose some, it's all the same to me."
Lemmy's words, Ace's conceit. Lemmy died; Ace's conceit, well, it's still a conceit.
Posted by: rho at December 29, 2015 03:33 AM (BvffJ)
Of all the stupid places to point....
490: "You are amazingly ignorant of this topic you have for some reason chosen to pontificate about. You do know that, right?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:41 AM (YLidQ)"
OK -- here's your answer for 490 -- "no, I think I'm pretty much up-to-speed on the topic, thanks."
So, you registering?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:21 AM (EzgxV)
***
Gonna register them just as much as my guns are registered.
Looking forward to future responses. Based on your answers and slap
down returns tonight, you may wanna hold onto that stupid tag for
yourself.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:26 AM (YLidQ)
The fundamental question is whether drone regulation is going to go anywhere. Way back @413, it appeared that you believed that it might not.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:37 AM (EzgxV)
It was weird to wear shorts on Christmas, though.
And, at least with your high taxes & lefties, you get the benefit of outrages real estate values. I, on the other hand have watched value drop for years running now. And our taxes ain't low. Heck - prepared food tax here is equal to NYC. I forget what the rate per $100 is on real estate, but it's stupid high.
Hat, yep, my Understanding is that ace is up there. Never even thought about him getting hassled already... good point.
Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 03:41 AM (mUsVF)
Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 03:47 AM (mUsVF)
Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 03:47 AM (mUsVF)
That's just the foot in the door.
Absolute imposition of their Newthink will be pushed to the extent they can get away with it... and then they'll push some more.
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 29, 2015 03:56 AM (Z8xbi)
Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 03:57 AM (mUsVF)
Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 03:47 AM (mUsVF)
..... yet.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at December 29, 2015 04:19 AM (WWdgA)
You really aren't very good at this. May wanna hang it up. Your call.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:38 AM (YLidQ)
I gotta ask, MWNP, are you by chance taking asshole pills? Because you seem to be having on-going problems getting along with other commenters over what should be fairly non-acrimonious discussion topics.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 29, 2015 04:20 AM (wqVD1)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 29, 2015 03:19 AM (Z8xbi)
I said something couple days ago after seeing it on Drudge.
It only applies in certain specific situations and not for the use in general public.
I think it has to do with landlords and housing agreements/leases/contracts and such where the parties are referred to by pronouns in the text.
It's just penny ante bullshit that is one more reason for any sane person to leave the east coast.
I say build a wall at the Delaware gap and all along the Jersey/PA border over along Jersey's N. border to the Hudson and then all along the Hudson and include Albany on the east side of the wall.
That should do it. Keep all the guidos and freaks and other assorted maniacs on the other side and let them work it out.
And I used to live along the CT coast so I know how and how much it has changed in just a few short years.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 04:27 AM (Xo1Rt)
Good morning horde
Posted by: Skip at December 29, 2015 04:42 AM (C1Suc)
Posted by: Adriane the TV Critic ... at December 29, 2015 04:49 AM (AoK0a)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 29, 2015 04:51 AM (u82oZ)
Add to it Kentucky (thanks Rand) is doing a rep caucus in march, dem primary not till may.
Posted by: FCF at December 29, 2015 05:03 AM (kejii)
Posted by: FCF at December 29, 2015 05:06 AM (kejii)
Posted by: Adriane the TV Critic ... at December 29, 2015 05:10 AM (AoK0a)
Posted by: FCF at December 29, 2015 05:10 AM (kejii)
Fuck that shit. You can buy parts kits that contain almost complete Uzis, Mac-10s, or almost anything else your heart desires. Then, you can find an "unfinished" receiver for said weapon. These things are usually three or four pieces of stamped steel that have to be welded together.
For $200, you can buy a cheap-ass welding rig at Harbor Freight.
Once you get your receiver in the mail, then get some similar types of stamped steel and practice welding them together until you are satisfied that you can put your receiver together without screwing it up. If you are really paranoid, sign up for a welding class at the local community college.
Then, weld yourself up a submachine gun receiver, and install factory parts. Voila, instant automatic weapon.
As someone above noted, tell no one you are doing this, it is a serious federal felony to do so.
Me? I've never done any of this, I have just found the parts online and seen someone weld up a (legal) semi-auto Mac-10 receiver. This is strictly an intellectual exercise, I would never actually encourage anyone to break the law.
Posted by: David, infamous sockpuppet at December 29, 2015 05:13 AM (1TUV/)
True story: Hawkwind hired him as a bassist even though he did not actually know how to play the bass at that time, they hired him because he did the right drugs.
Insert shameless Ace of Spades tie-in HERE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iwC2QljLn4
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 29, 2015 05:21 AM (HMt16)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 29, 2015 05:23 AM (HMt16)
Posted by: Adriane the TV Critic ... at December 29, 2015 05:26 AM (AoK0a)
Posted by: Al Gore at December 29, 2015 05:27 AM (sv9eA)
Tis the season for the po-po to start enforcing the no parking on the streets overnight rule in my 'hood, so the plows can get through. I'm watching from my window as 3 cars get ticketed right now.
And the asshole cop is completely blocking the street too. No reason whatsoever he can't park at the curb behind the cars he's ticketing. But just because he can, he's making cars go all the way around the block while he sits there in the middle of the street.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 29, 2015 05:28 AM (HMt16)
Posted by: Salon at December 29, 2015 05:31 AM (sv9eA)
Posted by: Eromero at December 29, 2015 05:41 AM (b+df9)
Posted by: somejoe at December 29, 2015 05:54 AM (vlgjM)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 29, 2015 06:06 AM (VdICR)
Posted by: zmdavid at December 29, 2015 06:08 AM (xqRaG)
Coates (though talking about blacks) was right. They must be left to themselves, in their own lands. If you try to 'help' those who don't want it, all you do is wound their dignity, and you'll reap their resentment instead of their gratitude.
Liberals must accept the fact that some situations are unfixable and containment is all you can hope for.
Posted by: Salon at December 29, 2015 06:11 AM (sv9eA)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 29, 2015 06:20 AM (KCxzN)
https://youtu.be/-BSlqZYtWzQ?t=15m5s
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 29, 2015 06:21 AM (VdICR)
Morning, Glories! Early morning. To whoever's here.
Woke up, and my agitated mind would not let me go back to sleep despite weariness of body.
Have the flame wars passed? (I presume there were flame wars.) Is it safe for morning people?
Posted by: mindful webworker - mindful webworker - awake, more or less at December 29, 2015 06:23 AM (4Hf9E)
How in the world did I manage to get my nic doubled in that last comment? Reminds me of "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman."
* smacks side of computer *
Posted by: mindful webworker - what th'?? at December 29, 2015 06:25 AM (4Hf9E)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 29, 2015 06:27 AM (gf8BH)
Posted by: mindful webworker
My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.
Flame wars were between MWNP and cooth about drones. It seems to have abated.
Posted by: Sen John Blutarsky at December 29, 2015 06:34 AM (sv9eA)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 29, 2015 06:34 AM (u82oZ)
I will trust in Simon Pegg.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 29, 2015 06:35 AM (VdICR)
Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 29, 2015 06:35 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 29, 2015 06:34 AM (u82oZ)
Well ya know at my age, ya get up every morning hoping all the parts are still on and working
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 29, 2015 06:40 AM (gf8BH)
* heads to kitchen to make coffee *
Posted by: mindful webworker - pre-caffeinated at December 29, 2015 06:43 AM (4Hf9E)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 29, 2015 06:43 AM (VdICR)
Scott Adams thinks that Hilary is having undisclosed health issues based on small clues on video. I am of mixed opinion about him saying this in public.
As if it matters. She could be shitting in her diapers and the DNC would still be pimping her. There's no way they're going to let the human howler monkey anywhere near the White House.
The people who should be worried are Bill and Chelsea. If Scankles is tied or down in the polls as the election draws near, look for Bill to have a heart attack or Chelsea a miscarriage.
Posted by: Liberace at December 29, 2015 06:49 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 06:49 AM (X6fMO)
Ya young whippersnapper.
I have a Service Dress Blue uniform & a dress sword, with knot, older than you.
Now go and do good.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 29, 2015 06:50 AM (u82oZ)
How many page, or hard faults, would be considered, "too many" ?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and Unimproved. at December 29, 2015 06:51 AM (WVsWD)
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at December 29, 2015 06:51 AM (jN+3o)
Posted by: Sen John Blutarsky at December 29, 2015 06:52 AM (sv9eA)
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at December 29, 2015 06:58 AM (jN+3o)
Pretty sure I've never mentioned it, but... I like that a lot.
Posted by: mindful webworker - semi-conscious citizen at December 29, 2015 06:58 AM (4Hf9E)
Could you please be more specific?
Posted by: fluffy at December 29, 2015 06:58 AM (AfsKp)
Posted by: Sen John Blutarsky at December 29, 2015 06:52 AM
Yes, and their butt-boys in the media helped them keep said issues quiet.
Also, no Intarwebz in those days.
If a Leading Republican had any "health issues" -- beyond Terminal Stupidity, that is -- everything from blood tests to images from the proctoscope would be front-page stuff.
Posted by: Mr Scribbler at December 29, 2015 06:59 AM (z/vax)
Is chronic lying a health issue?
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Or megalomania?
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 29, 2015 07:00 AM (Nwg0u)
on small clues on video. I am of mixed opinion about him saying this
in public.
.
.
.I think he is correct in his opinion. She does act like someone who is suffering from a serious health issue. From the constant disappearances while she is campaigning to the frequent awkward pauses in responding to questions, something is going on and it just isn't because she is getting old.
Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at December 29, 2015 07:01 AM (iONHu)
I like my coffee hot.
I dislike when my cup gets cold,
That's why I make a pot.
I only have a smallish cup,
And then go for some more.
Although it makes for many trips,
Back to the pot to pour.
-Burma Shape
Posted by: mindful webworker - snapping fingers at December 29, 2015 07:04 AM (4Hf9E)
-
Shouldn't Big Gun Control get Aaron Hernandez and the NFL on board, too?
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 29, 2015 07:04 AM (Nwg0u)
Thanks. Just doing my best to fill the files of our nations finest secret policemen.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 29, 2015 07:19 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2015 07:21 AM (fu1JC)
How many page, or hard faults, would be considered, "too many" ?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and Unimproved. at December 29, 2015 06:51 AM (WVsWD)
Server or PC? Usually means there isn't enough RAM.
Posted by: WOPR at December 29, 2015 07:22 AM (LTDSy)
Posted by: NaCly Dog
*hic* Once I'm elected, ain't no one gonna be smilin but me, HAHAHA!!! *hic*
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 29, 2015 07:24 AM (sv9eA)
Is chronic lying a health issue?
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at December 29, 2015 06:51 AM (jN+3o)
______________________________
Shut your whore mouth....
*hic*
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 29, 2015 07:28 AM (eCASW)
I need some tea.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 06:49 AM (X6fMO)
Hey! Since you are the old movie expert I thought I would mention that I watched high society on Netflix one day and the next day rewatched the Philadelphia story and went hey! Wait a minute...is this the same story? Yep. Weird.
Posted by: Lea at December 29, 2015 07:29 AM (vmMMi)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 29, 2015 07:32 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and Unimproved. at December 29, 2015 07:36 AM (WVsWD)
Is the blog broke, or is everyone waiting on the EMT?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2015 07:21 AM (fu1JC)
I love this place....but sometimes it seems to be run like some government agency. (ducks)
Posted by: BignJames at December 29, 2015 07:38 AM (j7iSn)
There's no way they're going to let the human howler monkey anywhere near the White House.
Could you please be more specific?Posted by: fluffy at December 29, 2015 06:58 AM (AfsKp)Crazy old Bernie. I pissed someone off over the holidays by calling him that. "He just shits in his hands and throws it at the one-percent."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 07:39 AM (X6fMO)
http://tinyurl.com/nr4h2ee
"Gender fluid" my Aunt Fanny! Pi$$ on language fiends.
"...Researchers suspect Mmamoriri developed these typically masculine traits in order to protect her pride against other lions...."
Describes very woman who had to "man up" to protect her brood when her man died or disappeared untimely. God bless 'em.
Posted by: mindful webworker - proud mamas at December 29, 2015 07:40 AM (4Hf9E)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 29, 2015 07:40 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: mindful webworker - proud mamas at December 29, 2015 07:41 AM (4Hf9E)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 07:46 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 07:47 AM (X6fMO)
If a lioness can grow a mane and deeper-sounding vocal cords by sheer willpower, as the article suggests, then surely transgenders should be able to grow boobies/external genitalia as they wish without the aid of surgeons.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 29, 2015 07:49 AM (bZ7mE)
Thanks! I enjoy the background information.
I love the Philadelphia story, because I enjoy Cary grant but also jimmy Stewart is really great in it. (I was having a Cary grant marathon Sunday)
Posted by: Lea at December 29, 2015 07:52 AM (vmMMi)
Posted by: Lea at December 29, 2015 07:53 AM (vmMMi)
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So there's hope for Paul Ryano yet?
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 29, 2015 07:54 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 29, 2015 07:59 AM (VdICR)
Posted by: Cecile the lion at December 29, 2015 08:00 AM (sv9eA)
Not to throw a wet blanket on your funneh, but... methinx there may be a touch of difference between alteration in voice and hair color and those rather heavier alterations!!
Regarding the mane color changes: We once had a semi-feral momcat drop on us a litter of kittens that included three white ones. We could only tell them apart because one had a small grey streak on the left of her head, the other the same but on the right, and the third had none.
After two of them died, including the no-streak cat, the remaining one lost her gray streak. No longer a reason for it, we supposed.
*sigh* I miss all three of those long-gone little girls.
Posted by: mindful webworker - kitteh power activate! at December 29, 2015 08:01 AM (4Hf9E)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 29, 2015 08:01 AM (B8JRQ)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 29, 2015 08:02 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 29, 2015 08:04 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Mister Christopher (in Atlanta!) at December 29, 2015 08:05 AM (SLJ40)
Posted by: gay lion at December 29, 2015 08:06 AM (sv9eA)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 29, 2015 08:06 AM (VdICR)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at December 29, 2015 08:07 AM (WWdgA)
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Life will find a way.
- Dr. Ian Malcolm
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 29, 2015 08:07 AM (Nwg0u)
My point is that physiological changes have to have some sort of physical cause - probably hormonal in her case - not just willpower and her part.
What I was trying to do was draw attention to the sheer stupidity of referring to a female lion as identifying as male or "genderfluid" and implying that her mane and deeper roar were a result of a conscious decision on her part.
Regarding your kitten, I don't know about cats but many members of my family have changed from being very blonde as infants and toddlers to medium-dark brown by the time they hit puberty.
Posted by: Grey Fox at December 29, 2015 08:09 AM (bZ7mE)
They're bouncy enough for a D cup, but perky enough for a B.
Posted by: Bernie Sanders at December 29, 2015 08:09 AM (VdICR)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 29, 2015 08:09 AM (LUgeY)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 29, 2015 08:10 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value. at December 29, 2015 08:11 AM (rwI+c)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at December 29, 2015 08:11 AM (WWdgA)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 29, 2015 08:11 AM (LUgeY)
Did Allah send the Nation of Islam to kill Malcolm X?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 29, 2015 08:11 AM (659DL)
Gotta use the rest or I lose them.
I know a chick who is a school teacher and has accumulated months of ppt time and will probably cash them out when she retires.
I alway tell her your welcome, she always gets mad.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 29, 2015 08:11 AM (WVvzl)
If there's a lot then
A) too many programs running,
B) not enough memory
C) a program is being stupid and refreshing itself constantly
(firefox does this for some reason and I've found out that it means nothing. However over time this will cause some slowdowns here and there so best to not leave firefox running unless you're using it)
There's really no definition of what is too many. It is what it is. They should have used a different name. the "fault" part is scary.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 08:13 AM (Xo1Rt)
Before that, "Dr. Zhivago" was on. Now that movie is one that has stood up to the test of time.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at December 29, 2015 08:13 AM (P8951)
I don't think this will format, but I'll tell you a quick Kate Hepburn story: she was working on a film directed by Herman Mankiewicz (I'm too lazy to look it up), and felt - stuck-up prima donna that she was - that he wasn't giving her the respect she deserved. So when the last day of filming was announced, she kept quiet until the last "cut!" was called, then marched up to Mank.
"Am I finished?" she asked.
"Sure, Kate," the director responded. "We're all done."
"I mean it - no more close-ups, no inset shots, no nothing? You absolutely do not need me for anything else?"
"Not at all," Mank answered. "You're free to go."
"Good," Hepburn snarled, "because I want to leave you with this."
And she spat in Mankiewicz' face.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 08:14 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Mainah at December 29, 2015 08:14 AM (659DL)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 29, 2015 08:15 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Cecil at December 29, 2015 08:16 AM (sv9eA)
What's now called a "strong" woman.
(read: a high maintenance biyatch barely worth knowing and trouble every minute.)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 08:16 AM (Xo1Rt)
I'm not surprised. TMC had one of her movies on last week where she played some brainy orifice worker against Spencer Tracy.
Yuck. That movie defied at least two laws of physics: it both blew and sucked at the same time.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 29, 2015 08:17 AM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Colin at December 29, 2015 08:17 AM (T3Tpd)
Oh, there are some golden moments:
"You can't have the Vexen, it's mine."
"What makes it yours?"
"It has my troops all over it."
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 29, 2015 08:18 AM (659DL)
What a charmer. I am also not a Hepburn fan. She had an affair with a married man for decades and that supposedly made her a big feminist icon?
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at December 29, 2015 08:19 AM (P8951)
Now there's another Hepburn story which I like: she was working on a film directed by Howard Hawks - who didn't like her - and while he was ready to start a scene, she was off the set chatting with people. Hawks just sat down and waited. Finally, Hepburn realized she was the only one talking and turned to Hawks. "What's going on?"
"I'm just waiting for the parrot to finish squawking," the director answered.
A furious Hepburn marched over to him. "Listen, Howard," she said, waving an arm around the set, "these people are my friends. If you treat me like that, you might find some bad things happening to you."
Hawks looked at her for a long moment, then raised his eyes to the electricians above the set, working their heavy lights. "Henry," he called to one of them, "if you had the choice between dropping that light on me or on Miss Hepburn, who would you choose?"
The electrician didn't hesitate a moment. "Stand aside, Mr. Hawks!"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 08:19 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Judge Smedd at December 29, 2015 08:20 AM (KSP4V)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 08:21 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Mr Scribbler at December 29, 2015 08:21 AM (z/vax)
Yep. Shut it off with an hour left.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at December 29, 2015 08:21 AM (WWdgA)
The naval buildup includes three new classes of advanced submarines and several new types of warships that the report warns will provide a flexible platform for Russia to demonstrate offensive capability, threaten neighbors, project power regionally, and advance President Putins stated goal of returning Russia to clear great power status.
And so is China
And fredo is devastating our Military
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 29, 2015 08:23 AM (gf8BH)
And people bought the lie and tried to emulate it.
One of the major things wrong with putting imaginary events up for the masses to see. It effects the brain. Some become what they see on the screen (big or TV) and Western Civ has paid the price. Only recently as a majority learn that it does effect people especially children have people started to self censor what they see and what they allow their children to see.
It's why the media will put a blanket on stuff they don't want known and blare to the rooftops the stuff they want to have happen.
Still too many who don't understand how they're being brain washed. And they're the ones who need to know it the most.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 08:24 AM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 08:24 AM (oAQEw)
The sailors on this ship can drink beer. They can wear beards. And some can think about retiring with a pension after only 15 years.
On the aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle, the French navys one and only flattop, the galley is filled with bins of fresh-baked croissants and baguettes. Squadron ready rooms are typically stocked with espresso machines and dark chocolates. The berthing compartments have carpet. And the French sailors here have coveralls that are far more hip than those worn in the U.S. Navy.
?????
This is the SHIT The Navy Times prints under Fredo....Talking up the POS French Carrier...THIS is what Fredo would like to turn our Millitary into.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 29, 2015 08:26 AM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at December 29, 2015 08:13 AM (P8951)
Especially, since it seems were watching the remake play out in real time.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at December 29, 2015 08:26 AM (WWdgA)
Winter Weather Advisory from our beloved government National Weather Service.
We might get less than an inch of snow today.
We might get less than an inch of snow tonight.
We might get less than an inch of snow tomorrow.
...and with that, the power goes off.
Posted by: Pierrer3312 at December 29, 2015 08:29 AM (H7oFY)
Posted by: Michael Sam at December 29, 2015 08:29 AM (sv9eA)
Don't get me started...
The best way to un-brainwash someone is to tell them that they've allowed themselves to be brainwashed. The shock will wake them up eventually, after they get royally pissed at you.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 29, 2015 08:29 AM (LUgeY)
The Islamic Center of Greater Kansas City has received $2,739,891 from the Department of Agriculture since 2010, a Daily Caller analysis has found. The money largely went to the mosques Crescent Clinic to provide services through the Women, Infant and Children nutrition program, known as WIC.
Dandy
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 29, 2015 08:30 AM (gf8BH)
"You never read non-fiction books. The only things you think are true are what Whoreywood wants you think."
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 29, 2015 08:31 AM (1ijHg)
The majority of 20th century movie idols were living lies.
And people bought the lie and tried to emulate it.
True. But at least, in the golden days of the studios, the lie was in service to a decent, Western culture. Stars were portrayed as good family people and movies affirmed America, not reveling in its decline. People may laugh at Louis B. Mayer's simplicity (or hypocrisy, depending on how you view him) in declaring that he would not allow MGM to make a movie he would be ashamed to let his daughters see, but I would argue that Hollywood and the country were better off when the knowledge that Chaplin was a near-paedophile and Spencer Tracy a bisexual, violent alcoholic was suppressed rather than the common knowledge of every inch of Kim Kardashian's vulva we have today.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 08:31 AM (X6fMO)
Details, details. Not gonna spoil my good kitteh memories with your mean old sciencey factualities.
As for the lioness growing out more mane and deepening voice, hormonal auto-adjustment certainly seems within the realm of possibility - but of course, not to the point of auto-transgendering. At least, not in higher mammals....
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Vic? Wake up! They won't post a morning thread until you leave your news on the ONT!
Posted by: mindful webworker - cat man do at December 29, 2015 08:31 AM (4Hf9E)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 29, 2015 08:32 AM (gf8BH)
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Yeah, I watched a bit of it. Life before tge internet - apparently one could call a number and ask random stuff.
Posted by: @votermom at December 29, 2015 08:33 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 29, 2015 08:33 AM (XtAzU)
It's da law!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2015 08:35 AM (fu1JC)
Posted by: tops at December 29, 2015 08:37 AM (AX1D8)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at December 29, 2015 08:37 AM (WWdgA)
I tried watching "The Lion in Winter" on Sunday, and just couldn't. It
was like hours of your medieval dysfunctional royal family screeching
and bitching at each other -like "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?" set
in a castle - and the dialog wasn't even clever.
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Wow, someone was asleep in history class... You definitely need to crack a book or two on Henry II then. The movie is a true medieval-era classic for encapsulating the most powerful couple in twelfth-century Europe, who were once crazy in love and on top of the world. Then they lost it all in acrimony concerning the princes and their own shortcomings. (Henry II really was a control-freak father who repeatedly drove his sons into rebellion, to the delight of France.) The dramatic situation is fictional, but the feelings are genuine. Peter O'Toole and Katherine Hepburn are just the right people for the roles of the Plantagenet Lion in his final years, and his estranged Lioness concerned for her cubs, especially Richard. There is a remake with Patrick Stewart and Glenn Close in the lead roles, but the first version is till the best.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 08:37 AM (ry4ab)
CNN: Chicago: King Louie is on the med, Long Live the Rapper King Louie
He named himself after the orangutan from The Jungle Book?
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 29, 2015 08:37 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at December 29, 2015 08:38 AM (msVAP)
Especially, since it seems were watching the remake play out in real time.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at December 29, 2015 08:26 AM (WWdgA)
Yep. There's a line in there when a desperate Zhivago says all he wants is to be left alone to live peacefully with his family. The left will never, ever leave you alone.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at December 29, 2015 08:38 AM (P8951)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 29, 2015 08:40 AM (Ie8Cj)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 29, 2015 08:40 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at December 29, 2015 08:38 AM (msVAP)
The Buck Stops at the White House...They set the tone, and control the Budget, THE BUDGET!
Yes the suck ass top Generals and Admirals who suck Fredo's dick are to blame also, but it's the President who set's the tone 100%.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 29, 2015 08:42 AM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 29, 2015 08:42 AM (AkOaV)
First there's the always threatening fall from grace. And all of them did fall didn't they?
Next is living a lie is still living a lie. You can't possibly live the way they portrayed themselves. Which is why Actors are usually such a mess psychologically.
And then we get into the later half of the 20th and the really negative idols.
So all in all it's not been a good thing for Western Civ.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 08:43 AM (Xo1Rt)
My brother starts talking about history (e.g. Vietnam) and I respond:
"You never read non-fiction books. The only things you think are true are what Whoreywood wants you think."
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True that, but Hollywood just followed the script handed them by MSM and the Commie-puppet Left. Plenty of anti-communist movies were made before 1965; LBJ never tried to bring Hollywood on board, and he paid for it. American presidents have remained clueless about defining the war story and the war narrative since then. El Rushbo and Glen Beck have had some things to say about losing the culture war since then.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 08:43 AM (ry4ab)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2015 08:43 AM (fu1JC)
I am aware of the history. I still think the dialog sucks and the movie was tedious. Am I allowed to dislike a movie?
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at December 29, 2015 08:44 AM (P8951)
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at December 29, 2015 08:45 AM (j2xmV)
Posted by: Cecil at December 29, 2015 08:45 AM (sv9eA)
Heh. That's probably why she does work in The Philadelphia Story, because she comes off as kind of a jerk for half of it and that fits the character.
Posted by: Lea at December 29, 2015 08:46 AM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 08:46 AM (Xo1Rt)
No. Also, please submit all your food preferences for us to judge as well.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 29, 2015 08:47 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 08:46 AM (Xo1Rt)
I see you've never been in the bathroom with hillary ha?
Posted by: Bill Clinton at December 29, 2015 08:47 AM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Mmamoriri at December 29, 2015 08:49 AM (sv9eA)
Perhaps Mary Poppins' PPP can verify this - I recall reading a while back that Hepburn treated Adolphe Menjou like absolute shit because he was politically conservative and concerned about the number of Commies in Hollywood. Of course the Commies didn't like it.
I hadn't heard that (frankly, the whole "Red Scare" era of Hollywood bores me to tears), but a quick wiki check reveals that Menjou, testifying before HUAC, said, "Scratch a do-gooder like Hepburn, and they'll yell, 'Pravda!'". She snapped back that Menjou was "a flag-waving superpatriot who invested his American dollars in Canadian bonds and had a thing about Communists."
And, according to a Hepburn biographer, during the filming of 1948s State of the Union, the two only spoke to each other when the script required it.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 08:50 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 08:50 AM (ry4ab)
The Tasmaniam Devil population has been dropping due to a contagious facial cancer passed by biting (and apparently they bite each other a lot). Made me wonder if such a thing were possible in humans (though probably not through biting).
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 29, 2015 08:51 AM (GDulk)
Yep. Joan Blondell was in it too.
Funny how they showed the computer: the first thing it did was a mistake.
Overall, I kept wondering why they made that movie. Tracy and Hepburn had little in the way of chemistry IMO, and her "romance" was thin.
I do like those old flicks tho' mostly because of the brand new old cars and to see what America looked like back then. I like to see if I can catch things like grocery and gas prices, fashion and other popular topics of the day. I tend to watch everything but the story.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 29, 2015 08:51 AM (LUgeY)
They found that as soon as birth control pills became easily available, the divorce rate skyrocketed.
They found that it made women less attractive and that women found men less attractive.
There's also something I've noticed and if you pay attention to old movies, you'll see it too. (well actually hear it)
Women don't talk in the same tones that they used to.
To me they are harsher and whinier in tone. Generally less attractive.
This of course doesn't mean every woman and many are not using birth control but it's the same thing with the obesity epidemic. What's changed in the last 40 years?
Birth control and antibiotics. The urine of the female is full of the hormones used in birth control which tends to make men more feminized and with more body fat and antibiotics puts fat on everyone. Why not? It works for cattle. Which is why they give them to them.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 08:52 AM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 29, 2015 08:53 AM (iQIUe)
wants is to be left alone to live peacefully with his family. The left
will never, ever leave you alone.
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The movie version of Doctor Zhivago is a long, beautiful infomercial on why the Russian Revolution sucked ass and the Bolshies were no real improvement on what had gone before. That's why Pasternak was threatened by the Kremlin when his novel won the Nobel Prize.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 08:53 AM (ry4ab)
The Pappiloma virus is one. and can be a precursor for cancer in women.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 08:54 AM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 08:37 AM (ry4ab)
I am aware of the history. I still think the dialog sucks and the movie was tedious. Am I allowed to dislike a movie?
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You are allowed to dislike it. And I am allowed to call BS on you for disagreeing with me on it.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 08:55 AM (ry4ab)
Seems appropriate.
I'm probably not going to make it to the morning thread...
Posted by: mindful webworker - diabolical numberology at December 29, 2015 08:55 AM (4Hf9E)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 08:56 AM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 29, 2015 08:56 AM (gf8BH)
New York's law that criminalizes the use of Standard English when referring to someone's gender hasn't changed their minds.
They're fucking insane.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 29, 2015 08:56 AM (u5gzz)
I'm thinking the expanding use and abuse of UAVs or drones will (or at least should) prompt a resurgence in the development in smaller and better control signal jammers.
ECM and ECCM arms race for the masses as it were.
We have a guy at our gaming table whose wife calls him on his cell phone almost every 15 minutes for inane bullshit. The guys and I are contemplating building a cell jammer with a 5 yard range. I'd also like to see businesses like movie theaters and restaurants start fielding them.
All these assholes who want to ruin my day/evening with their technology, need to learn to keep their shit to themselves.
Time to start putting caltrops in my lawn...
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 29, 2015 08:57 AM (4nmNX)
When did America go from black and white to color?
Honestly, as a little kid, I thought that. That's what happens when you are born on the cusp of widespread color film usage.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2015 09:00 AM (fu1JC)
Lion in Winter one of my favorite movies.
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As someone who has been known to live in pre-modern Europe for entire weekends, it is one of my faves both as a movie and as historical fiction. I think the movie really works due to an attention to detail, but also in taking a true-to-life dramatic theme and running with it, and using A-list star power to do it.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 09:00 AM (ry4ab)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 29, 2015 09:01 AM (GDulk)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 29, 2015 09:01 AM (LUgeY)
Hoping to hear from Vic
Posted by: tops at December 29, 2015 09:01 AM (AX1D8)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2015 09:02 AM (fu1JC)
There's also something I've noticed and if you pay attention to old movies, you'll see it too. (well actually hear it)
Women don't talk in the same tones that they used to.
To me they are harsher and whinier in tone. Generally less attractive.
Voice coaches. And not only Hollywood; girls used to go to what were called "finishing schools," where they were taught to walk and speak like ladies.
I have to laugh during the rare occasions when I go to a movie these days; not one of the female leads would have been let out of an MGM dialogue school sounding the way they do.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 09:03 AM (X6fMO)
This big bastard of a drone carries a net and nets the illegal drone and carries it off.
They used to make a round for the shotgun that expanded into a net for crowd control.
And of course there's Spiderman.
Don't shoot a drone with a firearm. It's usually illegal to fire a weapon around houses. This would include any projectile thrower too in some areas. So what to do?
Although still illegal, I'd use a crossbow bolt tied to a fishing line and reel. Snag that sucker and reel it in. Rip out it's camera (most aren't broadcasting their video it goes on a digital media) memory and then toss it somewhere likely.
End of problem/snooping.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 09:03 AM (Xo1Rt)
http://tinyurl.com/p83j68x
http://tinyurl.com/z833wdo
Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 09:03 AM (ry4ab)
That's odd, since birth control pills are just estrogen, which I'd expect would make women more feminine. I have noticed how vocal inflections have changed, and not for the better.
Posted by: Mmamoriri at December 29, 2015 09:03 AM (sv9eA)
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You'll have to submit a form XB1040 to the People's Committee of Film Disliking. After a few months or years you will get a response.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 29, 2015 09:05 AM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: E.T. at December 29, 2015 09:05 AM (yq4gk)
Life is too short for that bs.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2015 09:02 AM (fu1JC)
That's why I can't understand how someone like Jane D'oh puts up with it. A hell on earth, which I happen to believe we are all living, but that's a whole different discussion.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at December 29, 2015 09:06 AM (WWdgA)
Honestly, as a little kid, I thought that. That's what happens when you are born on the cusp of widespread color film usage.
I guess I was somewhat lucky that Mumsy Dearest put a camera in my hand around age 6. I learned the difference in films, how to load and unload, don't grab a hot flashbulb, and all that stuff real early.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 29, 2015 09:06 AM (LUgeY)
Hand thrown stuff, nothing with an assisted power device cause that will wind up being illegal somehow.
Javelin, discus, baseball, big rock, Frisbee.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 09:06 AM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 29, 2015 09:06 AM (GDulk)
I have prog friends who continue to deny that progressivism is totalitarianism.
They're fucking insane.
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10% of the progs are commies/fascists in sheeple's clothing. the other 90% are varying degrees of conformists who don't want to be shunned by the cool kids for saying or doing the wrong thing. "High school never ends."
Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 09:07 AM (ry4ab)
I wonder if an EMP wave could be contained and channeled into a directional beam or path? Sort of like an EMP gun of some sort.
I imagine there would be some big money to be made out of such a development.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 29, 2015 09:07 AM (4nmNX)
Posted by: Rocket J. Squirrel at December 29, 2015 09:07 AM (HhSOK)
Oh, and bolas might work too for drones if they're close enough.
Hand thrown stuff, nothing with an assisted power device cause that will wind up being illegal somehow.
Javelin, discus, baseball, big rock, Frisbee.
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Or once can emulate the example of the Vice President and fire a shotgun off the porch.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 09:08 AM (ry4ab)
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[Jimmy] Hatch, a Navy SEAL senior chief who led a platoon into a fierce battle to try to rescue Bergdahl, was shot and badly wounded on that mission. Beside him, service dog Remco lay mortally wounded, after running through a hail of bullets at two Taliban fighters hiding in a ditch, exposing their whereabouts....
Dianna Cahn, Stars and Stripes
http://1.usa.gov/1YLAfEy
h/t Dave Blount, Moonbattery
http://moonbattery.com/?p=66933
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Good article by some "Dedicated Tenther" on the attitude of gratitude.
...Then, a week or two ago, while listening to our preacher give his lesson, something struck me. It pierced me to the core....
http://bit.ly/1OqI1so
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A Biblical scholar claims that due to a mistranslation the original scripture actually says that Eve was made from Adam's penis not his rib. The professor states that man is the only mammal without a penis bone. Guess that's where it went.
c/o Weird Universe
http://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/not_the_rib/
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"Battle Bike" - bicycle ready for serious action
Also c/o Weird Universe
http://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/battle_bike/
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And, repeating from earlier upthread...
Congratulations to Ace of Spades for winning The Senator John Blutarsky Award for Conservative Blogging!
Doug Ross
http://bit.ly/1Pu0iKx
Posted by: mindful webworker - Not Vic, but the Section B team at December 29, 2015 09:09 AM (4Hf9E)
Am I allowed to dislike a movie?
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You'll have to submit a form XB1040 to the People's Committee of
Film Disliking. After a few months or years you will get a response.
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I better print a dozen of those forms, Oscar pleading season is upon us.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 09:10 AM (ry4ab)
Good to know it isn't just me. I have JavaScript turned off, so accessibility is limited already (haven't been able to find the settings to let me whitelist just that site).
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 29, 2015 09:10 AM (GDulk)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 29, 2015 09:11 AM (KCxzN)
I think it's a certain combination which mimics the hormone balance a woman would have when she's not ovulating. And in some women it does prevent ovulation/menses.
I'm no chemist. Ask Chemjeff what's in birth control pills.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 09:11 AM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: mindful webworker - of course at December 29, 2015 09:12 AM (4Hf9E)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 29, 2015 09:13 AM (AkOaV)
Freedom baby!
Posted by: Bystander at December 29, 2015 09:13 AM (k8tEg)
Posted by: semilttierate at December 29, 2015 02:44 PM (ldTNN)
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