Overnight Open Thread (12-28-2015)

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Among the US State Department Accomplishments for 2015: "Bringing Peace, Security to Syria."

Gun Control Movement to NBA: We Need Your Help
NBA to Gun Control Groups: Sure Thing!

Peak Salon

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Muslim Prisoners Sue Pam Geller For Wearing an Itsy-Bitsy, Red-Hot, Polka Dot Bikini, Also For Existing

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Affluenza Teen Captured in Mexico With Mother

Bah Humbug Economists Don't Practice What They Preach

The Wall Street Journal's survey of economists shows they largely don't practice what the naysayers preach: 51 of 54 respondents said they bought loved ones gifts; the other three initially said they didn't, but later admitted they did.

A PSA For the Morons




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And my twitter thang.

Tonight's post brought to you by phone:

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1 Hahahahaha. Helluva post, Maet.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:16 PM (w57Sr)

2 You should have asked the horde to identify each and every part before midnight or the ONT gets closed.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2015 11:17 PM (9YDUz)

3 Second as well?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:17 PM (w57Sr)

4 Who was phone?

Posted by: Pierrer3312 at December 28, 2015 11:17 PM (74kfZ)

5 Dammit, Weft!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:17 PM (w57Sr)

6 R.I.P. Lemmy from Motorhead. The Ace of Spades!

Posted by: Arson Wells at December 28, 2015 11:17 PM (UnJ7w)

7 Evenin' everyone.

Last time I saw a phone in that many pieces I got my ass beat for making it that way.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 28, 2015 11:17 PM (YJmuy)

8 Howdy ONT.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at December 28, 2015 11:17 PM (kH8TU)

9 Test.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 28, 2015 11:18 PM (RcpcZ)

10 Me T phone home.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 28, 2015 11:18 PM (gyKtp)

11 Woot woot ONT

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at December 28, 2015 11:18 PM (voOPb)

12 Phone was dismembered.

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2015 11:18 PM (zt+N6)

13 Hooooorde!

Who did we piss off today?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:18 PM (w57Sr)

14 HOOOORDE

Posted by: DC in River City at December 28, 2015 11:18 PM (e+1S5)

15 Can clock boy reassemble that?

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2015 11:19 PM (zt+N6)

16 Roll yer own Holiday entertainment ONT.

This won't end well.
Might be funny, but the ending will turn ugly.

Posted by: Pierrer3312 at December 28, 2015 11:19 PM (74kfZ)

17 The silver thing on the bottom of the dial is called 'the blunt finger chopper.'

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2015 11:19 PM (9YDUz)

18 Technical difficulties my ass

Lounging on the couch demanding Mrs. Maet to bring him fruitcake while playing with RC Car

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at December 28, 2015 11:19 PM (voOPb)

19 Can clock boy reassemble that?

Posted by: buzzion


It would make for a great ambush video.

Breitbart would do such a thing.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2015 11:20 PM (9YDUz)

20 That phone was an asset of AT&T, designed to last 30 years, and be depreciated as such. You boys are in a heap of trouble!

Posted by: Scottst at December 28, 2015 11:20 PM (/8lAA)

21 RK- did you see my post about the Rossi video from Steve's Guns?

Posted by: Mordineus at December 28, 2015 11:21 PM (Z/Rg8)

22 That was the best of the telephones, at least the touch tone model anyway.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 28, 2015 11:21 PM (FkBIv)

23 This ONT is like BenK putting a picture of the drudge report logo for his news dump

Posted by: BacktoGA at December 28, 2015 11:21 PM (/22Vh)

24 That's it? Meatlocker you have really let yourself go.

Posted by: Corona at December 28, 2015 11:21 PM (ragzU)

25 Breitbart would do such a thing.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2015 11:20 PM (9YDUz)



But how would they involve Trump?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:22 PM (w57Sr)

26 HORDE!!!!!!

Posted by: Captain Whitebread: The Toast Awake ns at December 28, 2015 11:22 PM (RrDm2)

27 Hooooorde!

Who did we piss off today?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:18 PM (w57Sr)

***

Tnails*Why, just everybody, but not too worried about it.

*Buffs nails*

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 28, 2015 11:22 PM (YLidQ)

28 Shanks it! Ha Ha!

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2015 11:22 PM (zt+N6)

29 I've kept our last, very good quality, Bell rotary phone as a future collectors' item and if they're ever useful again after a catastrophe contrasted with cell-phones!

Posted by: andycanuck at December 28, 2015 11:23 PM (DLIIY)

30 Tnails*Why, just everybody, but not too worried about it.

*Buffs nails*

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 28, 2015 11:22 PM (YLidQ)



Pretty standard really.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:23 PM (w57Sr)

31 I'm a big fan of Mass of Wires.

I saw them at the Palladium in 12hz with Dweezle Zappa.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2015 11:23 PM (9YDUz)

32 That is probably the worst NFL miss I've seen

Posted by: BacktoGA at December 28, 2015 11:23 PM (/22Vh)

33 **watches Denver FG attempt**


Nice work, shankapotamus.

Posted by: some annoying little kid at December 28, 2015 11:23 PM (H9MG5)

34 OT in Denver

Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:23 PM (MQEz6)

35 I miss those phones. The base of them was so damn heavy that they didn't budge when you were talking on them and stretching the cord, unlike the touchtone ones that the cord would stretch to a point, and then bring the base flying directly at your nuts.

Got turned down for many a date in high school because I was curled up in a fetal position clutching my balls and the girl thought I had hung up on her.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at December 28, 2015 11:23 PM (Z7G74)

36 This ONT brought to you by Kickers Who Want To Lose Their Jobs, It Would Seem.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 28, 2015 11:24 PM (t8P62)

37 I never saw anything other than a rotary dial phone until I was 20 or so. Now I can't imagine how we lived with those things.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at December 28, 2015 11:24 PM (dPpmC)

38 Thanks for the ONT, Maet.

Not being sarcastic, just don't think I've thanked you in a while/

Posted by: Methos at December 28, 2015 11:25 PM (ZbV+0)

39 A modern telephone would just bounce off of Peyton's head.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 28, 2015 11:25 PM (FkBIv)

40 I'd like to see Cincy win. I like that McCarron kid, even without the hot wife.

Posted by: Blano at December 28, 2015 11:25 PM (C3E0x)

41 Evening morons, how fares the horde?

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at December 28, 2015 11:25 PM (Gosad)

42 ok, so 'phone hacking' is a forbidden topic here?

Not that I know anything about that. Just read a few articles here and there, once. long ago.

Posted by: Pierrer3312 at December 28, 2015 11:25 PM (74kfZ)

43 Pretty standard really.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:23 PM (w57Sr)

****

I don't do shots, but can call the toast if enough reprobates chime in. I do big beers. Who dat?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 28, 2015 11:26 PM (YLidQ)

44 How the fuck did Lemmy not die 20 years ago? And seriously, I could be a rich man had I bet that Ozzy would outlive both Dio and Lemmy.

Ozzy, Dio, Lemmy...I just realized how fucking dumb all of their names are.

Posted by: VBJonny at December 28, 2015 11:26 PM (NX9H4)

45 OMG, this phone has no screen.

Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:26 PM (MQEz6)

46 First column, fourth down ... don't lick that one.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2015 11:26 PM (9YDUz)

47 39 A modern telephone would just bounce off of Peyton's head.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 28, 2015 11:25 PM (FkBIv)


But Peyton doesn't have the arm strength anymore to use a rotary phone.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at December 28, 2015 11:26 PM (Z7G74)

48 Got turned down for many a date in high school because I was curled up
in a fetal position clutching my balls and the girl thought I had hung
up on her.


You'd think after the first five or six times that happened you'd learn not to stretch the cord.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 28, 2015 11:26 PM (YJmuy)

49 You could see it in his eyes he was gonna miss that kick.

Posted by: Blano at December 28, 2015 11:26 PM (C3E0x)

50 Used to have a trimline-style phone that had a clear housing. Really cool, could see all the stuff inside plus a light that flashed in sync with the bell.

Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 28, 2015 11:27 PM (044Fx)

51 Hola, amigoz en loz intertuboz!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 28, 2015 11:27 PM (EzgxV)

52 Greetin's, cretins!

Another simple ONT, eh? Well, it's still good.

Congratulations to Ace of Spades for winning The Senator John Blutarsky Award for Conservative Blogging

Doug Ross
http://bit.ly/1Pu0iKx

Apparently, a category made up just so AoS could make the list.

I think AoS commenters deserve some special category award. Most Corgi-like Morons?

I only follow a small percentage of the blogs listed in this 2015 Fabulous 50 Blog Award Winners. I'd like to add many of them, but... I can hardly keep up with the ones to which I already subscribe.

Posted by: mindful webworker - overbloggified at December 28, 2015 11:27 PM (ACs58)

53 >>35 I miss those phones.

I miss being able to cradle the damned receiver in the crook of my neck. Holding these stupid cell phones is annoying.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at December 28, 2015 11:27 PM (t5zYU)

54 The phone was ... mutilated.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value. at December 28, 2015 11:27 PM (rwI+c)

55 There's people voting now who likely wouldn't know what a dial phone was, much less how to use it.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 28, 2015 11:27 PM (dvuhZ)

56 Kubiak clearly doesn't understand the genius of Belichick.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at December 28, 2015 11:28 PM (yrUKa)

57 R.I.P. Lemmy from Motorhead. The Ace of Spades!

Posted by: Arson Wells at December 28, 2015 11:17 PM (UnJ7w)

Oblig: http://tinyurl.com/Ace-O-Spades-RIP-Lemmy

Fucking crank it.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 28, 2015 11:29 PM (t8P62)

58 Blanco Basura at December 28, 2015 11:26 PM

I was thinking that very thing and didn't have the testicals to say it.

Posted by: Pierrer3312 at December 28, 2015 11:29 PM (74kfZ)

59 I miss being able to cradle the damned receiver in the crook of my neck. Holding these stupid cell phones is annoying.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at December 28, 2015 11:27 PM (t5zYU)



If only there was a way to use the phone without holding it right up against your ear. Like if the sound was projected out and your voice was picked up.

A "speaker phone" if you will.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:29 PM (w57Sr)

60 *whispers* Did the phone taunt happy fun ball?

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at December 28, 2015 11:29 PM (Gosad)

61 You could conk out a horse with the old black phones.

Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:29 PM (MQEz6)

62 Don't mind me. I'm just standing by.

Posted by: DynamiteDan at December 28, 2015 11:29 PM (BaDMP)

63 ...and then bring the base flying directly at your nuts.
That sounds like the squeaky voice of experience.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 28, 2015 11:29 PM (DLIIY)

64 I don't do shots, but can call the toast if enough reprobates chime in. I do big beers. Who dat?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 28, 2015 11:26 PM (YLidQ)



Unfortunately, I'm out. Finished off the booze earlier.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:30 PM (w57Sr)

65 Texans fans are rooting for a tie in this OT

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 28, 2015 11:30 PM (6q+dR)

66 >>A "speaker phone" if you will.

I think those are rude.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at December 28, 2015 11:30 PM (t5zYU)

67 This is my phone.

There are many like it, but this one is mine.

Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:30 PM (MQEz6)

68 You'd think after the first five or six times that happened you'd learn not to stretch the cord.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 28, 2015 11:26 PM (YJmuy)

Give him a break. He was 16 and thinking about cooter.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 28, 2015 11:30 PM (t8P62)

69 On the intertubes, know won nose yer outa beer.

Posted by: Pierrer3312 at December 28, 2015 11:31 PM (74kfZ)

70 oops

flag

Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:31 PM (MQEz6)

71 53 >>35 I miss those phones.

I miss being able to cradle the damned receiver in the crook of my neck. Holding these stupid cell phones is annoying.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at December 28, 2015 11:27 PM (t5zYU)



Aren't there Bluetooth devices now that are pretty much a classic phone or at least look like a standard cordless receiver? Why not get one of those?

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2015 11:31 PM (zt+N6)

72 Bengals' thuggery is doing their best to get the Bronx their win

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 28, 2015 11:32 PM (6q+dR)

73 You'd think after the first five or six times that happened you'd learn not to stretch the cord.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 28, 2015 11:26 PM (YJmuy)

You would think so.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at December 28, 2015 11:32 PM (Z7G74)

74 I think those are rude.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at December 28, 2015 11:30 PM (t5zYU)


In your own home?

Ok.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:32 PM (w57Sr)

75 What I miss is being able to slam a phone down to end a call for effect. Used to be, that slam could be heard on the other end, clearly.

Now? Pretty hard to use a button touch for effect.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 28, 2015 11:32 PM (YLidQ)

76 I remember when we upgraded to rotary phones and seven-digit numbers.

What a shame to give up on the simple three-digit numbers and voice-activated dialing.

Whose idea was it to put the emergency "0" number at the longest-to-dial position anyway?

Posted by: mindful webworker - number pleeease at December 28, 2015 11:32 PM (ACs58)

77 75 What I miss is being able to slam a phone down to end a call for effect. Used to be, that slam could be heard on the other end, clearly.

Now? Pretty hard to use a button touch for effect.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 28, 2015 11:32 PM (YLidQ)



Now that's the damn truth. A good phone slam is excellent.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:33 PM (w57Sr)

78 65 Texans fans are rooting for a tie in this OT
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 28, 2015 11:30 PM (6q+dR)


They keep playing don't they?

Posted by: Donovan McNabb at December 28, 2015 11:33 PM (Z7G74)

79 I miss being able to cradle the damned receiver in the crook of my neck. Holding these stupid cell phones is annoying.

Posted by: Y-not


I miss the heft of the receivers. Just enough weight to bludgeon someone into unconsciousness so you could drag them into your bitchin' van....

Posted by: J.W. Gacy at December 28, 2015 11:33 PM (9YDUz)

80 I was thinking that very thing and didn't have the testicals to say it.

See? See? That's what happens when you don't learn!

Too many high velocity telephone impacts damn near castrated a generation.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 28, 2015 11:33 PM (YJmuy)

81 Phone book on the lap protected the nuts.

Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:33 PM (MQEz6)

82 My grandparents had the best dial phone. It was super snazzy and attached to a super snazzy table with a pen holder as well. It was a bit of a novelty by that time since touch tone was already a thing, but I loved making calls from that phone.

Posted by: Lauren at December 28, 2015 11:33 PM (Z/8dZ)

83 Just remember, the ring voltage on those old phones could knock you on your ass if you got crosswise with it.

Posted by: Old Blue at December 28, 2015 11:34 PM (9iR5/)

84 Holding these stupid cell phones is annoying.
On our new phone/s my dad keeps on inadvertently hitting the Mute button (that's an icon on the screen and not a separate button). I don't know if it's his hand from how he holds it or if it's his ear hitting it!

Posted by: andycanuck at December 28, 2015 11:34 PM (DLIIY)

85 I miss being able to cradle the damned receiver in the crook of my neck.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom)


Those were designed for the human head.
You know who that leaves out.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 28, 2015 11:34 PM (FkBIv)

86 oh man

Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:34 PM (MQEz6)

87 Oh, HELL YEAH:

http://tinyurl.com/Two-Words-Dana-Scully

Posted by: Sharkman at December 28, 2015 11:34 PM (t8P62)

88 I miss being able to cradle the damned receiver in the crook of my neck. Holding these stupid cell phones is annoying.

Remember those U shaped attachments you could screw onto the receiver to make it easier to cradle them on your shoulder?

Posted by: All Teh Meh at December 28, 2015 11:34 PM (yrUKa)

89 >>>Unfortunately, I'm out. Finished off the booze earlier.

You do booze logistics like the Browns do football

Posted by: DC in River City at December 28, 2015 11:34 PM (e+1S5)

90 Heya cooth, how's it going? Have you gotten network fully secured yet?

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at December 28, 2015 11:35 PM (Gosad)

91 Lemmy's gone? Shit. Lost a good guy, yesterday and I'm still depressed from that.

Posted by: otho at December 28, 2015 11:35 PM (EWg9n)

92 You do booze logistics like the Browns do football

Posted by: DC in River City at December 28, 2015 11:34 PM (e+1S5)



I went through the Christmas present a bit quicker than expected.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:35 PM (w57Sr)

93 Y-not: Holding these stupid cell phones is annoying.

If only there were, like, some device that let you use them by just sticking a thing in your ear. Even wireless. Wouldn't that be cool?



MWNP: ...slam a phone down to end a call...

Somebody told me a while back there's an app for that....

Posted by: mindful webworker - number pleeease at December 28, 2015 11:36 PM (ACs58)

94 Those were designed for the human head.
You know who that leaves out.

Prisoners of Moslems?

Posted by: andycanuck at December 28, 2015 11:36 PM (DLIIY)

95
35 I miss those phones. The base of them was so damn heavy that they didn't budge when you were talking on them and stretching the cord, unlike the touchtone ones that the cord would stretch to a point, and then bring the base flying directly at your nuts.

Physics class, senior year HS. Experimenting with springs. Me holding one end, best friend lab partner "secures" other end to bench...

...MFer failed in his assigned duty and I caught the overstretched spring square in the 'nads. Funny it was, he thought, as did everyone else who witnessed it.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2015 11:36 PM (BK3ZS)

96 This was before my time, but the folks used to be on a party line with several neighbors. That was the standard back then, out in the country for a while.

One damned neighbor was bad to sneak and pick up and listen in. He let something slip that gave away his eavesdropping one time. Once they got wise, they said you could tell when he was on the line by a subtle change in sound.

One day my father was talking to somebody and heard that change. He then said, "And Andy, what do you think about that?". Andy was the neighbor's name. He said he heard the phone slam down.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 28, 2015 11:36 PM (dvuhZ)

97 Every kicker should be shown that one. Don't close your foot.

Posted by: t-bird at December 28, 2015 11:36 PM (+c55T)

98 >>> I don't know if it's his hand from how he holds it or if it's his ear hitting it!

Happens to me too. You can push the power button on an iPhone to turn off those buttons without ending the call.

Posted by: DC in River City at December 28, 2015 11:37 PM (e+1S5)

99 Kind of fun to be watching a game here rooting for nobody

Very Dark Enlightenment

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 28, 2015 11:37 PM (6q+dR)

100 bang!!

Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:37 PM (MQEz6)

101 "I miss being able to cradle the damned receiver in the crook of my neck. Holding these stupid cell phones is annoying.
"

You know what else is annoying? Accidentally initiating a facetime call in the middle of a phone call with your face.

Posted by: Lauren at December 28, 2015 11:37 PM (Z/8dZ)

102 Those were designed for the human head.

You know who that leaves out.
---
I know!

Posted by: Eli Manning at December 28, 2015 11:37 PM (ZbV+0)

103 WOW - Lemmy AND MedowLark Lemon. Same day??? You gotta admit, God does laugh.

Posted by: David James at December 28, 2015 11:38 PM (CPF2D)

104 Holy crap.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2015 11:38 PM (5DyVQ)

105 Those were designed for the human head.
You know who that leaves out.


Those damned satellites buzzing around my head again!

Posted by: Peyton Manning at December 28, 2015 11:38 PM (+c55T)

106 Must have Time Warner Cable Internet...

Posted by: Valiant at December 28, 2015 11:38 PM (2bqlb)

107 I remember when I used to have to get Sarah to connect me with the folks in Mount Pilot.

Posted by: Sheriff Taylor at December 28, 2015 11:38 PM (NqQAS)

108 Screw you, Publius! I was sure that was my ring tone!

Posted by: andycanuck at December 28, 2015 11:38 PM (DLIIY)

109 Okay, just kick the field goal and rely on your defense

Posted by: Methos at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (ZbV+0)

110 Now the Bronx get to try another FG *snerk*

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (6q+dR)

111 MWNP: ...slam a phone down to end a call...

Somebody told me a while back there's an app for that....
Posted by: mindful webworker - number pleeease at December 28, 2015 11:36 PM (ACs5

***

Of course there is.

I was referring to the physical action of slamming down a rotary dial or tone actual land line phone handset.

No app will ever give one that feeling. It is a physical thing.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (YLidQ)

112 OMAHA!

Posted by: Garrett at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (tHaqE)

113 Norman Schwarzkopf is still dead.

Abe Vigoda is still alive.

Posted by: mindful webworker - is it 2016 yet? at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (ACs58)

114 Hey! Made that one!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (w57Sr)

115 Gotta put in the endzone now, AJ.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value. at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (rwI+c)

116 Also awful? Getting a phone call and wanting to reject it, but not being able to reject it because the person on the other side will know you rejected it so you just have to sit there waiting for the call to go to voicemail like some sort of barbarian.

Posted by: Lauren at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (Z/8dZ)

117 My girl friend hit me in the head with one of those...twice. Now you know.


Posted by: Roxy Rae at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (D/1P4)

118 >>>I went through the Christmas present a bit quicker than expected.

If only there was an industry that distributed and sold alcohol in retail establishments. Oh well, we can dream.

Posted by: DC in River City at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (e+1S5)

119 If only there was an industry that distributed and sold alcohol in retail establishments.


Brilliant!

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value. at December 28, 2015 11:40 PM (rwI+c)

120 Well, he made the one that didn't take them to the playoffs. yet.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 28, 2015 11:40 PM (ODxAs)

121 I'll be here to piss on ALL your graves

Posted by: Keith Richards at December 28, 2015 11:40 PM (6q+dR)

122 The top case of the disassembled phone looks unsettling.

Posted by: rickl at December 28, 2015 11:41 PM (sdi6R)

123 There's nothing in the Panasonic manual about it but I was thinking of phoning customer relations and seeing if I could disable the Mute function permanently. I know we'll never use it a la Mute; "Oh, crap, it's Jim! What do I tell him about why we're not at the bris?! Unmute; Hello, Jim. Was that today???

Posted by: andycanuck at December 28, 2015 11:41 PM (DLIIY)

124 >>97 Every kicker should be shown that one. Don't close your foot.



Laces out!

Posted by: Garrett at December 28, 2015 11:41 PM (tHaqE)

125
Whose idea was it to put the emergency "0" number at the longest-to-dial position anyway?

Muzzies. They invented the "0", donchaknow?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (BK3ZS)

126 MWNP: ...the physical action of slamming down a rotary dial or tone actual land line phone handset. No app will ever give one that feeling. It is a physical thing.

Ah, that's true.

It's just not the same when you hurl your cell at the wall.

Posted by: mindful webworker - dial tone? at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (ACs58)

127 I remember when I had to climb the pole outside my bedroom closet, just to get Sarah to make the call. Still do, actually.

Lisa! Get that damned pig off the couch! ..... Oh sorry, Arnold, didn't recognize you.

Posted by: Oliver Wendall Douglas at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (dvuhZ)

128 Norman Schwarzkopf is still dead.



Abe Vigoda is still alive.


Me, too!

Posted by: Jeff Goldblum at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (ZbV+0)

129 If only there was an industry that distributed and sold alcohol in retail establishments. Oh well, we can dream.

Posted by: DC in River City


In the perfect metropolitan city of my dreams, there is a beer utility.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (9YDUz)

130 If only there was an industry that distributed and sold alcohol in retail establishments. Oh well, we can dream.

Posted by: DC in River City at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (e+1S5)



I know, right?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (w57Sr)

131 I imagine people think me rude for not always answering the phone. I think them rude for calling while I'm at work and not leaving a message.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (/ciMI)

132 Hey everybody.

Thanks to all for the Ry Cooder info/recommendations in the previous thread. Just went ahead and splurged on a copy of "Borderline" from Amazon.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (ntObR)

133 Well, the black and white dingus immediately to the right of the earpiece and mouthpiece is the induction coil. That looks like a Euro phone to me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (UsLZp)

134 No app will ever give one that feeling. It is a physical thing.

Agreed. Few things were more... satisfying... than slamming down the receiver at the end of an angry conversation!

(and those old phones could sure take the beating!)

Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 28, 2015 11:43 PM (044Fx)

135 Willowed.
 Why are you calling the Broncos the Donks? That's our nickname. According to Wikipedia, theirs is Orange Crush.

Posted by: Debbie Wasserman-Schultz at December 28, 2015 11:43 PM (sv9eA)

136
Our exchange was CAnal (Marquette, MI).

The cooler ones were up the road in Negaunee (GRanite) and Ishpeming (HEmatite).

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2015 11:44 PM (BK3ZS)

137 I was referring to the physical action of slamming down a rotary dial or tone actual land line phone handset.

No app will ever give one that feeling. It is a physical thing.


Papa Basura broke a receiver doing that. Until we moved out of that house we had masking tape holding it together.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 28, 2015 11:44 PM (YJmuy)

138 Gotta move from town to country. Might be back.

If I'm not... leave a message at the tone.

* cue Zappa on hold music *

Posted by: mindful webworker - you didn't try to call me at December 28, 2015 11:44 PM (ACs58)

139 This was before my time, but the folks used to be on a party line with several neighbors. That was the standard back then, out in the country for a while.

One damned neighbor was bad to sneak and pick up and listen in. He let something slip that gave away his eavesdropping one time. Once they got wise, they said you could tell when he was on the line by a subtle change in sound.

One day my father was talking to somebody and heard that change. He then said, "And Andy, what do you think about that?". Andy was the neighbor's name. He said he heard the phone slam down.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 28, 2015 11:36 PM (dvuhZ)

Everybody on our party line was a relative.

And yeah, you could almost always tell when somebody else picked up the phone.

Posted by: Blano at December 28, 2015 11:44 PM (C3E0x)

140
I love football.

I also love giant rotary phones.

Feet, balls, and phones, mmmmmmm.

Posted by: Roxy Raye at December 28, 2015 11:45 PM (dvuhZ)

141 I use the mute on the work phone all the time: "Steve, some jackass wants to talk to you!" Always check to make sure the mute activates.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 28, 2015 11:45 PM (/ciMI)

142 Agreed. Few things were more... satisfying... than slamming down the receiver at the end of an angry conversation!

(and those old phones could sure take the beating!)

Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 28, 2015 11:43 PM (044Fx)



The phones we have at work....unbreakable. My dad and I have both flat out tried to break them. Slamming the handset into the cradle over and over as hard as possible. Nothing.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:45 PM (w57Sr)

143 If only there was an industry that distributed and sold alcohol in retail establishments.

First!

Posted by: Clock Boy at December 28, 2015 11:45 PM (+c55T)

144 Y-not: For you

Bluetooth Retro Handset compatible with Cellphones.

http://tinyurl.com/ngoyrzo

Posted by: buzzion at December 28, 2015 11:46 PM (zt+N6)

145 It's just not the same when you hurl your cell at the wall.
Posted by: mindful webworker - dial tone? at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (ACs5

So, so true.

Don't ask me how I know.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread: The Toast Awake ns at December 28, 2015 11:46 PM (RrDm2)

146 A "speaker phone" if you will.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:29 PM (w57Sr)


No bathroom should be without one! Spectacular accoustics, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2015 11:47 PM (UsLZp)

147 (Post to get rid of that extraneous space in my nic)

Posted by: Captain Whitebread: The Toast Awakens at December 28, 2015 11:47 PM (RrDm2)

148 Wow. After all that.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 28, 2015 11:47 PM (B4570)

149 yeah, you could almost always tell when somebody else picked up the phone.

Can not! oops...

Posted by: Bob at the NSA at December 28, 2015 11:47 PM (+c55T)

150 look like a fumble to me.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 28, 2015 11:47 PM (ODxAs)

151 Yay!

Posted by: anticlimax at December 28, 2015 11:47 PM (H9MG5)

152 AHAHAHAHAHhahahahahah

Posted by: Methos at December 28, 2015 11:47 PM (ZbV+0)

153 Oops.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value. at December 28, 2015 11:47 PM (rwI+c)

154 oops
sorry, coach!

Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:47 PM (MQEz6)

155
129 If only there was an industry that distributed and sold alcohol in retail establishments. Oh well, we can dream.

Posted by: DC in River City

In the perfect metropolitan city of my dreams, there is a beer utility.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (9YDUz)


It'd be corrupted, union-based overpriced swill were that the case. At least go for a co-op, please.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at December 28, 2015 11:48 PM (Gosad)

156
That was a Cutleresque attempt to recover the dropped ball by Cincy's QB.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2015 11:48 PM (BK3ZS)

157 heh. doesn't matter.

Broncs in the playoffs.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 28, 2015 11:48 PM (ODxAs)

158 Papa Basura broke a receiver doing that. Until we moved out of that house we had masking tape holding it together.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 28, 2015 11:44 PM (YJmuy)

******

Dad MWNP did that as well, back in the time when the actual phone was leased from the company. Those things could...not..be...killed.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 28, 2015 11:48 PM (YLidQ)

159 Dammit, turnover means there's a winner on this one.

I guess Houston will have to actually win a game next week

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 28, 2015 11:48 PM (6q+dR)

160 Beat the spread.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value. at December 28, 2015 11:48 PM (rwI+c)

161 54
The phone was ... mutilated.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of commenter of
equal or greater value. at December 28, 2015 11:27 PM (rwI+c)


Allahu Akbar!!!

Posted by: Daesh fighter, holding aloft phone handset with knife in other hand at December 28, 2015 11:48 PM (EzgxV)

162 I live feet too. We should hang out.

Posted by: dick morris at December 28, 2015 11:49 PM (6q+dR)

163
Beat the spread.
---
By half a point.

Which is worth 16 to me.

Posted by: Methos at December 28, 2015 11:49 PM (ZbV+0)

164 Just remember, the ring voltage on those old phones could knock you on your ass if you got crosswise with it.

Posted by: Old Blue at December 28, 2015 11:34 PM (9iR5/)


Ninety volts AC. Still there, if you have a land line, because the old equipment still works if you plug it in.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2015 11:50 PM (UsLZp)

165 An old AT&T rotary phone is analog to both the Garand and the M-1911A1.

Pretty much all near indestructible, and damn near totally reliable.

And the phone can be thrown with about the same kinetic energy as a 230 gr. FMJ, I'd imagine.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 28, 2015 11:50 PM (McRlu)

166 The Bugles found ten ways to lose and used all of them.

Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:50 PM (MQEz6)

167 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:45 PM

Unbreakable, you say? Cool...

But, do the handsets have the *heft* of old? And did they give a satisfying SLAM! when you tested them?


Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 28, 2015 11:50 PM (044Fx)

168 Norman Schwarzkopf

The New York Times does not feel kindly toward the book 'Friendly Fire' by C.D.B Bryan.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1976/10/14/friendly-fire/

I mention this only because of an off hand comment made long ago about the 'worst of the first' from someone long forgotten, and that Schwarzkopf was assigned the unit to fix the problems.

Also because I have a cousin who was wounded in that incident.

Posted by: Pierrer3312 at December 28, 2015 11:51 PM (74kfZ)

169 @#$% finger fumble.

And now I know how joan of arc the bengals felt

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 28, 2015 11:51 PM (6q+dR)

170 But, do the handsets have the *heft* of old? And did they give a satisfying SLAM! when you tested them?

Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 28, 2015 11:50 PM (044Fx)



Light, yet enough heft for a satisfying slam. A slam loud enough to be heard throughout the office.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:52 PM (w57Sr)

171 I have a pen, and I have a ... oh dear. Goodness me, will someone get clockboy in here immediately!

Posted by: Barack Obama at December 28, 2015 11:52 PM (sv9eA)

172 I was never so happy as when we finally got touch tone phones. Our home number ended in 987, which took just about forever on a rotary dial, and resulted in several broken fingernails.

Now, of course, I can't ever find my damned phone, because it isn't attached to the wall anymore.

And yes, get off my lawn.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 28, 2015 11:52 PM (+YMhA)

173 146 It always blows my mind when you see someone walk into a bathroom talking on their phone, walking into a stall and continuing their conversation while their ass is playing the 1812 Overture.

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at December 28, 2015 11:53 PM (euO4K)

174 Ich habe ein schwartzkopf, aussi.

Posted by: Barack Obama at December 28, 2015 11:53 PM (sv9eA)

175 174 Ich habe ein schwartzkopf, Tussi.

Posted by: Barack Obama at December 28, 2015 11:53 PM (sv9eA)


What is that? Austrian?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 28, 2015 11:54 PM (w57Sr)

176 Ich habe ein schwartzkopf, aussi.
Posted by: Barack Obama

That's some damn fine Austrian.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 28, 2015 11:54 PM (/FOB4)

177 It's just not the same when you hurl your cell at the wall.

Posted by: mindful webworker - dial tone? at December 28, 2015 11:42 PM (ACs5


And it flies apart, and the battery vanishes into the ether, never again to be seen. Not that I would know, of course.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 28, 2015 11:54 PM (UsLZp)

178 90
Heya cooth, how's it going? Have you gotten network fully secured yet?

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at December 28, 2015 11:35 PM (Gosad)


If you only knew the bubblegum and baling-wire that is the way this stuff is normally implemented.....

Made decent progress today -- I proof-of-concepted some cobbled-together hardware/software....but true security is still some ways away. Just as long as things are more secure every day.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 28, 2015 11:55 PM (EzgxV)

179 Ralph Fiennes destroying an old phone in "In Brugge" is awesome filmmaking.

Posted by: Dave in the frozen north at December 28, 2015 11:56 PM (tZ38O)

180 I'm off to bed soon, but am gonna throw this out here on various threads during the week.

For any DFW 'rons and/or 'ettes, I'm heading to the big gun show in Ft. Worth this coming Saturday morning for a few hours before work. Would be great to meet some and learn gun stuff from them.

Drop me a line if anybody might be interested.

blano8102 at that crappy yahoo site.

Posted by: Blano at December 28, 2015 11:56 PM (C3E0x)

181 Was reading about the Allman Brothers at wikipedia today.

Had no idea that what Yoko Ono did to the Beatles, Cher did to them.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 28, 2015 11:56 PM (ntObR)

182 Light, yet enough heft for a satisfying slam.

*That* could be a winning sales slogan!

And, lmao at tcn in AK-- I can't ever find my damned phone, because it isn't attached to the wall anymore.


No sh!t, right? *the lawn: me too*

Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 28, 2015 11:56 PM (044Fx)

183 It always blows my mind when you see someone walk into a bathroom talking on their phone, walking into a stall and continuing their conversation while their ass is playing the 1812 Overture.

Posted by: Landofskybluewater


At the store today saw a person projecting her phone conversation to the world and everyone.

Some day soon I will be giving up the cares and just projecting the most embarrassing thing I can think up at the precious convo roamers.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2015 11:57 PM (9YDUz)

184 (I also recently splurged on a copy of the ABs' "At Fillmore East." Can't believe what I've been missing.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 28, 2015 11:58 PM (ntObR)

185 Light, yet enough heft for a satisfying slam.

*That* could be a winning sales slogan!

And, lmao at tcn in AK-- I can't ever find my damned phone, because it isn't attached to the wall anymore.

No sh!t, right? *the lawn: me too*

Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 28, 2015 11:56 PM (044Fx)

****

What up, Slap?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 28, 2015 11:58 PM (YLidQ)

186 I'm so old I can remember when the phone would ring until you answered or the caller gave up. No such thing as voice mail.

And you couldn't unplug from the wall neither.

Posted by: Pierrer3312 at December 28, 2015 11:59 PM (74kfZ)

187 Our home number ended in 987

We were 2125. You could rip thru that pretty fast.

Posted by: t-bird at December 28, 2015 11:59 PM (+c55T)

188 I learned my alphabet from a rotary phone. Why didn't someone come to me like a fucking man and tell me there was a letter "Q".

Posted by: Dave in the frozen north at December 28, 2015 11:59 PM (tZ38O)

189 113
Norman Schwarzkopf is still dead.



Abe Vigoda is still alive.

Posted by: mindful webworker - is it 2016 yet? at December 28, 2015 11:39 PM (ACs5


Cthulhu still is dreaming....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:00 AM (EzgxV)

190 162: Dickie, love to, but I've got these minimum standards of, you know, length and girth. If you don't measure up, it would be pointless. You wouldn't feel nothin', I wouldn't feel nothin'.

Oh, and if you're still interested, bring a safety harness and some rope. You may need it. Also maybe a helmet with a light on it.


Posted by: Roxy Raye at December 29, 2015 12:00 AM (dvuhZ)

191 I do sort of miss the party line we had. It was great for when you were bored and wanted some dirt on the neighbors. Now you can just pop in a movie, but back then, live entertainment was the way to go.

And, living in the great white north, calling folks in the Lower 48 come some holiday was always a crap shoot. Before satellites, you had to rely on the cable, which was always jammed full all day. When we finally got satellites, we had no bandwidth, so you would get this three tone alarm, and then a recorded statement that the satellite was full, please make your call later. It usually already WAS later, since you never called before 7:00 p.m. because it was prohibitively expensive, which made it 9:00 p.m. in Seattle and even later farther east.

We were sort of used to that sort of thing: if you wanted to watch the evening news, you waited until 10:00 p.m. to watch the national news, which came up by plane every evening on tape. If the weather was crap, the plane didn't go, so no news.

We did a lot of radio back then, particularly AFRN. To this day, I understand football a lot better on the radio than the television.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 29, 2015 12:01 AM (+YMhA)

192 I hate blue tooth.

That is all.

Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 12:01 AM (C3E0x)

193 I'll repeat basically what I said on Twitter: Lemmy is dead and Beiber is alive. That's bullshit.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 29, 2015 12:01 AM (w57Sr)

194 At the store today saw a person projecting her phone conversation to the world and everyone.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

Was it Dindoo Niuttin's momma? I was in a doctors' waiting room a few weeks ago and was treated to Ms Nuttin telling her phone (between unblocked, wet hacks) about poor Dindoo being in jail for stealing cell phone cords. Other than that, he dindoo nuttin.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 29, 2015 12:02 AM (/FOB4)

195 Since we're learning how to use a rotary phone, maybe next we can learn to start a fire with a stick, a rock and some kindling.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 29, 2015 12:02 AM (RU5ki)

196 Why didn't someone come to me like a fucking man and tell me there was a letter "Q".
Akhi, have I ever been other than an honest advisor to thee?

Posted by: qutham al-nabi al-mu'mimin at December 29, 2015 12:03 AM (6q+dR)

197 Wow talk about 'old school' on the technology.

So watching on DVD George Pal's version of War of the Worlds.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:04 AM (wOdHk)

198 Broncoooooooooooooooooooos!!!!!!!

Posted by: Oedipus at December 29, 2015 12:05 AM (CXLVd)

199 Now I have an asthma fetish. Huma, wheeze like an asthmatic teen for me.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 29, 2015 12:05 AM (sv9eA)

200 Something I've been meaning to mention...

For years now, us conservatives have been naming and shaming the MSM, and that's great. But we also need to have some great acronyms for the MSM's members. I came up with some today:

CWAC - Celebrity Without A Clue. For recent examples, see: Jennifer Lawrence, Samuel L. Jackson.

NITWIT - Newsreader InTerjecting Worthless shIT. Someone who doesn't just want to read the news, s/he wants to be a part of the news and will do so by constantly interjecting their opinions on everything when what they should really be doing is hosting the 4am Sunday Cow Fart Report in Podunk. Classic example: Rivera, Geraldo.

TSK - Talk Show Know-it-all. Always claiming if the U.S. just had *one* more agency or would pass just *one* more piece of legislation, his or her pet cause would magically be cured forever...

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:06 AM (ntObR)

201 195 Since we're learning how to use a rotary phone, maybe next we can learn to start a fire with a stick, a rock and some kindling.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 29, 2015 12:02 AM (RU5ki)

Okay, first, pick the stick with the little green or red end on it. Then, you won't need the stick, but a bit of kindling is good.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 29, 2015 12:06 AM (+YMhA)

202 maybe next we can learn to start a fire with a stick, a rock and some kindling.

Hubby gave me a flint and steel to practice with. Dryer lint catches quickly, and you can pack *lots* of it into a pill bottle....

Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 29, 2015 12:07 AM (044Fx)

203
197 Wow talk about 'old school' on the technology.

So watching on DVD George Pal's version of War of the Worlds.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:04 AM (wOdHk)

I love that movie.

The pile of scientific instruments looks so useless.

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:07 AM (MQEz6)

204 Was it Dindoo Niuttin's momma? I was in a doctors' waiting room a few weeks ago and was treated to Ms Nuttin telling her phone (between unblocked, wet hacks) about poor Dindoo being in jail for stealing cell phone cords. Other than that, he dindoo nuttin.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig


No, it was Ms. Executive who had to insist, insist! that the proofs were to be signed or else her carrot turnbuckle would beet fundament scuppernog ... and we all know how that goes.

I may have dozed off into my cart near that last part.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 12:08 AM (9YDUz)

205 After the fire-and-stick thing, I can show folks here how to edit 1/4-inch open-reel audio tape.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:08 AM (ntObR)

206 CWAC works and maybe TSK too. NITWIT needs back to the drawing-board

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 29, 2015 12:08 AM (6q+dR)

207 Was reading about the Allman Brothers at wikipedia today.

Had no idea that what Yoko Ono did to the Beatles, Cher did to them.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 28, 2015 11:56 PM (ntObR)


Haha. Okay, but, two things:

The Allman Brothers Band was not the Beatles by any stretch of imagination.

And Cher was not Yoko.

Also, why are Yoko and Cher alive? What the heck?

Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 12:08 AM (k9qR4)

208 Is this Susquehanna-2222?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 29, 2015 12:08 AM (/FOB4)

209 "I hate blue tooth. "


Why is that? Back in the day when I worked in telecom I always walked around with a BT earpiece, tapping my ear when the phone vibed.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:09 AM (JReQm)

210 Pay Ton, no arguments there. And good question. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:09 AM (ntObR)

211 bth, I had a better version of NITWIT earlier today but forgot it, dang. But thanks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:09 AM (ntObR)

212 Triumph motorcycles ruined the ABB, not Cher.

Posted by: Dave in the frozen north at December 29, 2015 12:10 AM (tZ38O)

213 After the fire-and-stick thing, I can show folks here how to edit 1/4-inch open-reel audio tape.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:08 AM (ntObR)

****

Way ahead of ya. I was also working with 3/4" and later Beta video tape editing by hand. Old school.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 12:11 AM (YLidQ)

214
209 "I hate blue tooth. "


Why is that? Back in the day when I worked in telecom I always walked around with a BT earpiece, tapping my ear when the phone vibed.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:09 AM (JReQm)

Did you say, "Talk to me"?

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:12 AM (MQEz6)

215 Dave, LOL, true.

"Wow, now that I made $5 million before the age of 23 just pluckin' my guitar and I never hafta work again, think I'll down nine gallons a' Wild Turkey, jump on my Harley and rush up the highway going the wrong way during lunch hour..."

:-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:12 AM (ntObR)

216 >>I can show folks here how to edit 1/4-inch open-reel audio tape.



Man, I did a lot of that back in my radio days.

Posted by: Garrett at December 29, 2015 12:12 AM (tHaqE)

217 Operator,

Well could you help to place this call?

Posted by: Jim Groce at December 29, 2015 12:12 AM (euO4K)

218 JQ Flyover.


Run some Bing searches on adding some Vaseline to your lint....the merits of old 35 mm film cannisters and some other neat tricks involving steel wool and 9 volt batteries.

Then you can move to some advanced knowledge, such as making your own char in a used Altoids tin.

You get good at fire-starting, and you'll have the foundation to build on for all the other outdoor arts.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 29, 2015 12:12 AM (McRlu)

219 eman, great movie.

Before Jeff Goldblum there was a real scientist Dr. Clayton Forrester.

The three copper 3ft Martian war machines fell victim to a Boy Scouts metal drive.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:12 AM (wOdHk)

220 Hubby gave me a flint and steel to practice with. Dryer lint catches quickly, and you can pack *lots* of it into a pill bottle....


I guess dryer lint is cheaper than jewelry. Hubby has a good head on his shoulders.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 29, 2015 12:13 AM (RU5ki)

221 Also, why are Yoko and Cher alive? What the heck?
Posted by: Pay Ton

I know that Cher is alive because middle-aged gay men pay millions of dollars every year to hear her "sing" shitty songs, and she uses that money to buy the blood of virgins to keep her body animated.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 29, 2015 12:13 AM (/FOB4)

222
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:06 AM (ntObR)

Actors, in any venue: meatspace marionettes

Manipulated and having no thoughts of their own.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 29, 2015 12:13 AM (BK3ZS)

223 And, BT has never worried me. But NFC does. I don't like it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:13 AM (WVAsm)

224 MWNP, wow. :-)

I also edited 3/4-inch "U-matic" tape back in the day, but everything was via two huge recorder decks and an edit controller, dubbing electronically.

What we at my public access station would have done for a then-cutting-edge digital A/B editing system...

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:14 AM (ntObR)

225 qdpsteve
Do yourself a favor and go find Allman Bros "Live at Atlanta Pop Festival (1970).
Then, discover Gov't Mule. Start with "The Deepest End"

Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 12:14 AM (mUsVF)

226 183
It always blows my mind when you see someone walk into a bathroom
talking on their phone, walking into a stall and continuing their
conversation while their ass is playing the 1812 Overture.

Posted by: Landofskybluewater

At the store today saw a person projecting her phone conversation to the world and everyone.

Some
day soon I will be giving up the cares and just projecting the most
embarrassing thing I can think up at the precious convo roamers.


Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2015 11:57 PM (9YDUz)


When I was in High School, the crowd I ran with had a "thing" called "The Elevator Game" -- the idea was for our group to encounter some random stranger in a situation where it was impossible not to overhear (thus, "Elevator") -- and matter-of-factly "continue" an imaginary conversation in increasingly surreal ways until we parted company with said stranger.

A: "Yeah, the party was buzzing along nicely, but it got a little weird when the guy showed up with the goat." B: "That wasn't half as weird as when Susie started decorating the goat with whipped cream." C: "Yeah, compared to that it was a return to normalcy when Norman started spritzing whipped cream all over Susie." B: "Well, to be fair, that's Norman...." A: "....but down her shirt?" C: "Looks like this is our floor."

....and then we'd go on our merry way, discussing how best to cast Lightning Bolt against Frost Giants....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:14 AM (EzgxV)

227
219 eman, great movie.

Before Jeff Goldblum there was a real scientist Dr. Clayton Forrester.

The three copper 3ft Martian war machines fell victim to a Boy Scouts metal drive.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:12 AM (wOdHk)

Oh, that's tragic.

Did you ever watch the TV series they made in the Eighties?

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:15 AM (MQEz6)

228 CWAC = Canadian Women's Army Corps during WW2; called "Quacks" as a bit of a riff on the Royal Navy's Wrens.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 29, 2015 12:15 AM (DLIIY)

229 "Did you say, "Talk to me"?"


No, never that douchey.


Just the simple "Hello."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:15 AM (WVAsm)

230 Chi, hmm, thanks. :-)

Trying to stock up on the blues rock. Finding it really agrees with me. Great stayin'-up-late-at-night on the weekend, countin'-my-blessings music IMHO.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:16 AM (ntObR)

231 187
Our home number ended in 987



We were 2125. You could rip thru that pretty fast.

Posted by: t-bird at December 28, 2015 11:59 PM (+c55T)


Fun fact -- area codes were originally assigned based on how "important" the area was. Look at 212, 213, and 312.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:16 AM (EzgxV)

232 Y-not, they make old school phone receivers with the curly cord that plug into your cell phone

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 29, 2015 12:17 AM (FQKBL)

233 Cher was on a Carol Burnett rerun tonite on MeTV.
She was wearing her "native American" get up.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 29, 2015 12:17 AM (FkBIv)

234 Yoko and Cher actually once recorded an album together, but it was never released.

Let's pray those master tapes never find their way into the hands of the terrorists...

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:18 AM (ntObR)

235 I also edited 3/4-inch "U-matic" tape back in the day, but everything was via two huge recorder decks and an edit controller, dubbing electronically.

What we at my public access station would have done for a then-cutting-edge digital A/B editing system...
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:14 AM (ntObR)

*****

No time for electronic editing, "This is CNN!"

It was brutal manual splicing, with honest to gawd tape in the true sense of the word. It hadda happen fast.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 12:18 AM (YLidQ)

236 Thanks, Jim.

I've always (well, for about 10 years, anyway) had at least 2 lighters and some kind of tinder with me, but it's good to know the other ways.

Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 29, 2015 12:18 AM (044Fx)

237 Back in the '70s, on Christmas and some other big holidays, we used to get a busy signal trying to dial long distance to talk to the relatives occasionally. The lines out of the local exchange were full. It was a different type of busy signal, sort of fast and fussy, and would come on the minute you dialed '1'.

Now, on 9/11, and this was in the Greenville, SC area, I think I remember the local system being all jammed up. I think just about everybody was calling everybody.

Now, where the bottleneck was, I don't know, but something in the chain my line was on was jammed up.

I thought it was pretty stupid, but everybody was calling everybody.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 29, 2015 12:18 AM (dvuhZ)

238 Chi, I was at the Atlanta Pop Festival. Rode my old '47 Indian bobber from Austin.

Posted by: Dave in the frozen north at December 29, 2015 12:18 AM (tZ38O)

239 Cher was on a Carol Burnett rerun tonite on MeTV.
She was wearing her "native American" get up.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.

Cultural appropriation!

Posted by: Liawatha Warren at December 29, 2015 12:18 AM (/FOB4)

240 Windy as a bitch tonight with freezing rain on top of the little bit of snow we got earlier (3" by the look of it) so "see" you all tomorrow.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 29, 2015 12:19 AM (DLIIY)

241
firesteel.com

cotton balls soaked in petroleum jelly, dry kindling (or georgia fatwood) shaved and split down to little sticks.

or 95c bic, gan of gas, half a pack of illegal untaxed cigarettes. Not that I would know, but I do have eclectic reading habits.

Posted by: Pierrer3312 at December 29, 2015 12:19 AM (74kfZ)

242 MeTV ran an episode of the Man from UNCLE Saturday that guest starred Sonny and Cher, too.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 29, 2015 12:19 AM (dvuhZ)

243
234 Yoko and Cher actually once recorded an album together, but it was never released.

Let's pray those master tapes never find their way into the hands of the terrorists...
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:18 AM (ntObR)

Or that they do.

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:20 AM (MQEz6)

244 205
After the fire-and-stick thing, I can show folks here how to edit 1/4-inch open-reel audio tape.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:08 AM (ntObR)


I had the little metal jig for that.....I wonder if I still have it around someplace.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:20 AM (EzgxV)

245 MWNP, OMG and LOL.

Picturing Ted Turner with a whip standing behind you. "We gotta get this shee-it on the air NOW dammit!! Faster faster!!" (wwwwhhhoosh-PSSHH)

;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:20 AM (ntObR)

246 I vaguely recall a TV series. Wasn't it something like toxic Martians stealing bodies until everything goes gooey?

The loss of the machines is tragic, but I bet Paramount was tired of keeping them in storage. Like the great backlot sale several studios did in the early 1970s, amazing what was let go including whole airplanes.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:20 AM (wOdHk)

247 cthulhu, kewl. I had one from Radio Shack. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:21 AM (ntObR)

248 Is this Susquehanna-2222?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 29, 2015 12:08 AM (/FOB4)


No, but this is Pennsylvania 6-5000:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_muFwwTSMs

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 12:22 AM (UsLZp)

249
246 I vaguely recall a TV series. Wasn't it something like toxic Martians stealing bodies until everything goes gooey?

The loss of the machines is tragic, but I bet Paramount was tired of keeping them in storage. Like the great backlot sale several studios did in the early 1970s, amazing what was let go including whole airplanes.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:20 AM (wOdHk)

That's it. It wasn't bad, but eventually it ran out of gas.

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:22 AM (MQEz6)

250 Speaking of phones, quit calling me, you assholes!

Posted by: Jenny at 867-5309 at December 29, 2015 12:23 AM (euO4K)

251 Steve
About 80% of what I listen to is blues rock. AB & Mule are the quintessential jam bands if you like live stuff. Go you tube some Deepest End now. Seriously. They are what Greatfull Dead & Phish wish they could have been.

BTW, Mule is fronted by Warren Haynes, who happens to be the front man for the latest incarnation of the AB.

Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 12:23 AM (mUsVF)

252 Why is that? Back in the day when I worked in telecom I always walked around with a BT earpiece, tapping my ear when the phone vibed.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:09 AM (JReQm)

Couple reasons I guess: 1) Because it seemed like they yapped away in the most irritating places. 2) Since I often didn't see the blue tooth thingy at first, I assumed if they were looking at me or walking towards me they were speaking to me, so I'd speak back, only to get that "look" like what's the matter with me.

Plus had friends who used it when driving. It always sounded like there was water running in the background. Irritated the hell out of me.

Maybe it's just me.

Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 12:24 AM (C3E0x)

253 Posted by: Jenny at 867-5309 at December 29, 2015 12:23 AM (euO4K)


Then who can I turn to?

Posted by: Tommy 2Tone at December 29, 2015 12:24 AM (RU5ki)

254 I vaguely recall a TV series. Wasn't it something like toxic Martians stealing bodies until everything goes gooey?

The loss of the machines is tragic, but I bet Paramount was tired of keeping them in storage. Like the great backlot sale several studios did in the early 1970s, amazing what was let go including whole airplanes.

Posted by: Anna Puma


Not the War of the Worlds TV show???

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 12:24 AM (9YDUz)

255 Uh oh, Martians.

I found out everybody, wanted to mention. A fellow volunteer producer I used to work with at Lakewood Community Television, whose name is James Melvin, is now working at NBCUniversal and producing this:

Star Trek: Progeny

https://startrekprogenydotorg.wordpress.com/

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:25 AM (ntObR)

256 MWNP, OMG and LOL.

Picturing Ted Turner with a whip standing behind you. "We gotta get this shee-it on the air NOW dammit!! Faster faster!!" (wwwwhhhoosh-PSSHH)

;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:20 AM (ntObR)

****

Pretty close! His Minions were not concerned about video quality. They were concerned about time. After all, News Network, right? When we had time, an A/B edit controller was cool.

About 50 of the time though, it was brutal field edits. Needed to be timely almost more than anything else.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 12:26 AM (YLidQ)

257 238 Chi, I was at the Atlanta Pop Festival. Rode my old '47 Indian bobber from Austin.
Posted by: Dave in the frozen north
------------------
Well, I'm jealous. But, I was only 3, so wouldn't have appreciated it.

Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 12:26 AM (mUsVF)

258 Chi, will do sir. Thanks for the referral.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:26 AM (ntObR)

259 THEN WHO WAS PHONE????

Posted by: Phone at December 29, 2015 12:26 AM (RU5ki)

260 No, but this is Pennsylvania 6-5000:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_muFwwTSMs
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Or Transylvania 6-5000:
https://youtu.be/ABKy-Pqu-HQ

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 29, 2015 12:26 AM (/FOB4)

261 253 Call me!!!!

Seriously, have you seen me lately? I'm desperate. Call me!

Posted by: Debbie Harry at December 29, 2015 12:27 AM (euO4K)

262 Fun fact -- area codes were originally assigned based on how "important" the area was. Look at 212, 213, and 312.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:16 AM (EzgxV)

Great. We've always been 907. Guess that tells you who was making the decisions, and who didn't give two shits.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 29, 2015 12:27 AM (+YMhA)

263 Or, try Derek and the Dominos live at the Filmore.

Better yet, any live Little Feat.

Always thought ABB was way overrated as a jam band. They played the same set over and over.

Posted by: Garrett at December 29, 2015 12:27 AM (yeSoS)

264 area codes were originally assigned based on how "important" the area was. Look at 212, 213, and 312.

I know we were unimportant, but figured somebody was 808 or something. Nope. Worst was 21 pulses for SD, NC, and SC. 803, for example.

Posted by: t-bird at December 29, 2015 12:28 AM (+c55T)

265 "Couple reasons I guess: 1) Because it seemed like they yapped away in the most irritating places. 2) Since I often didn't see the blue tooth thingy at first,"

Okay, gotcha. We learned to never look directly at someone if talking on the BT. Look down, up, over there. The human interaction part.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:28 AM (cgEX9)

266 Fun fact -- area codes were originally assigned based on how "important" the area was. Look at 212, 213, and 312.
Posted by: cthulhu


OVER: Just don't dial 6.6.6!
*evil guitar solo

Posted by: That movie voice guy at December 29, 2015 12:28 AM (9YDUz)

267 War of the Worlds TV promo

https://youtu.be/YSV1QL8XsSI

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 12:29 AM (9YDUz)

268 The 213 area code in SoCal used to be huge. Up until about 1983, *me and my family* were in the 213, and we're close to Orange County.

Also, the 714 area code in California was ridiculous. It took up the entirety of Orange, San Diego, Riverside, San Bernardino, and several other counties, all the way north to not too far east of the Yosemite area, including Ridgecrest.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:30 AM (ntObR)

269 I liked ABBs first album the best.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 29, 2015 12:30 AM (FkBIv)

270 Always thought ABB was way overrated as a jam band.

Posted by: Garrett
--------------------
Blasphemer!

Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 12:31 AM (mUsVF)

271
@226

Apparently that was an Alfred Hitchcock thing he liked to do in elevators. Walk away leaving everyone in the elevator wondering how the story ended.



Posted by: Pierrer3312 at December 29, 2015 12:31 AM (74kfZ)

272 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:09 AM (JReQm)

Speaking of guns, I went and bought that .410 today in Arlington. It was $129 for me, but got it anyways.

It was kind of a zoo when I got there, then didn't know that my license had to have my current address, so had to take some time to change my address online, then the paperwork took longer than usual. Oh well, it was my day off anyways.

Cute little gun. Now I just need to make a friend with some land so I can go shoot it once in a while.

Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 12:31 AM (C3E0x)

273 Talking the George Pal movie prop war machines. The TV series had one machine, made of fiberglass.

Star Trek: Progeny just from the photo, so does she think that perhaps she is 007 of Star Fleet? Uh I think I would prefer to watch Blowager.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:32 AM (wOdHk)

274 262
Fun fact -- area codes were originally assigned based on how "important" the area was. Look at 212, 213, and 312.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:16 AM (EzgxV)



Great. We've always been 907. Guess that tells you who was making the decisions, and who didn't give two shits.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 29, 2015 12:27 AM (+YMhA)


Wow. If that was your original area code, you're absolutely right -- ATT shit all over you. I always thought I had it bad growing up in 805.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:32 AM (EzgxV)

275 Hey, guys -- Maet snuck in some content!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:33 AM (EzgxV)

276 Anna, alls I knows is, she's supposedly Kirk's granddaughter.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:33 AM (ntObR)

277 qdpsteve, well that certainly narrows things down a bit. Which granddaughter?

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:34 AM (wOdHk)

278 81 Phone book on the lap protected the nuts.
Posted by: eman at December 28, 2015 11:33 PM (MQEz6)


Not when you were pacing around.

Posted by: Donovan McNabb at December 29, 2015 12:35 AM (Z7G74)

279 "Speaking of guns, I went and bought that .410 today in Arlington. It was $129 for me, but got it anyways. "

Ain't it a cool little sonny-gun. Nice stock. Well made. Damn near fold in half. We went and shot skeet with them and they'd sure do it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:35 AM (LaJOb)

280 Anna, LOL. Wonder if she'll turn out to have any of Kirk/Shatner's speech impediments.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:35 AM (ntObR)

281 Yeah, I still have a 1/4" tape splicer around here somewhere.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2015 12:35 AM (RrDm2)

282 Hello? Anyone here? Is this where the hot babes and action are at?

Posted by: Lonely guy calling 90's era party line at December 29, 2015 12:35 AM (euO4K)

283
255 Uh oh, Martians.

I found out everybody, wanted to mention. A fellow volunteer producer I used to work with at Lakewood Community Television, whose name is James Melvin, is now working at NBCUniversal and producing this:

Star Trek: Progeny

https://startrekprogenydotorg.wordpress.com/
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:25 AM (ntObR)

I have seen worse ideas.

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:36 AM (MQEz6)

284 Speaking of guns, I went and bought that .410 today in Arlington. It was $129 for me, but got it anyways.

Dinky gun. Can you hit anything with it?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 29, 2015 12:36 AM (RU5ki)

285 Not when you were pacing around.
Posted by: Donovan McNabb at December 29, 2015 12:35 AM (Z7G74)


Off you drunk lazy sock.

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 29, 2015 12:36 AM (Z7G74)

286 Hello? Anyone here? Is this where the hot babes and action are at?


That would be WeaselZippers.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 29, 2015 12:37 AM (RU5ki)

287 >>Speaking of guns, I went and bought that .410 today in Arlington. It was $129 for me, but got it anyways.

Dinky gun. Can you hit anything with it?

Posted by: Cicero


Filed under: not helping.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 12:37 AM (9YDUz)

288
Run some Bing searches on adding some Vaseline to your lint....the merits of old 35 mm film cannisters and some other neat tricks involving steel wool and 9 volt batteries.

Then you can move to some advanced knowledge, such as making your own char in a used Altoids tin.

You get good at fire-starting, and you'll have the foundation to build on for all the other outdoor arts.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim
****

Ooooor burning down the houses of people that have angered you. Either way, FUN!

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 29, 2015 12:37 AM (hVdx9)

289 277
qdpsteve, well that certainly narrows things down a bit. Which granddaughter?


Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:34 AM (wOdHk)


Official, or unofficial? How much green?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:37 AM (EzgxV)

290 Kirk had Italian.

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:38 AM (MQEz6)

291 Look, a good Jam band mixes up their sets. Nothing worse than seeing a band play the same set, every night.

This is what the Dead had going for them. Of course, if it was a Saturday, there was no stopping Bob Weir from calling out another 'Saturday Night'.

Fuckin' Bobby...

Posted by: Garrett at December 29, 2015 12:38 AM (fD4iC)

292 Speaking of guns, I went and bought that .410 today in Arlington. It was $129 for me, but got it anyways.

Dinky gun. Can you hit anything with it?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 29, 2015 12:36 AM (RU5ki)

Haven't shot it yet, but seems like the perfect gun for somebody who has never shot before, like a chick or a kid. Very lightweight. A great practice long gun.

Also, if I had to use it for defense it would probably just be at close range. Just guessing here.

Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 12:39 AM (C3E0x)

293 Filed under: not helping.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 12:37 AM (9YDUz)



Sometimes just waving it around is effective enough.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 29, 2015 12:39 AM (RU5ki)

294 Hey Pam, nice jugs!

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 29, 2015 12:39 AM (hVdx9)

295 eman, except there is already in production another Star Trek: Next Generation fan series called Star Trek: Renegades where Walter Koenig as Admiral Pavel Chekov pulls together a rag-tag crew to be 'galactic troubleshooters' with their own starship.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:40 AM (wOdHk)

296 Wow. If that was your original area code, you're absolutely right -- ATT shit all over you. I always thought I had it bad growing up in 805.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:32 AM (EzgxV)

ATT didn't even come up here. Ever. So, we took that. The whole state. Still is one area code, still 907.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 29, 2015 12:41 AM (+YMhA)

297 eman, LOL. She musta been a spicy meatball back in-a da day...

cthulhu, actually it looks to me like Progeny is still in development limbo. They've probably produced and shot a handful of (three or four) episodes and still shopping them to the networks in the hope of a sale.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:41 AM (ntObR)

298 Ain't it a cool little sonny-gun. Nice stock. Well made. Damn near fold in half. We went and shot skeet with them and they'd sure do it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:35 AM (LaJOb)

Yeah it is. Looking forward to shooting it. Will probably take it to Michigan next time I go so my daughter can practice with it also.

Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 12:41 AM (C3E0x)

299 qdpsteve, is your friend looking to hire people? Pretty sure we could be a big help right?

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:41 AM (wOdHk)

300 "Dinky gun. Can you hit anything with it?"

Snakes, birds. clays, home-intruders. Normal things you'd shoot with a shotty.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:42 AM (g+HvW)

301 Also, if I had to use it for defense it would probably just be at close range. Just guessing here.

Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 12:39 AM (C3E0x)


IIRC, you can get .410 rifled slugs, which would make that little shotgun into a virtual .41 Magnum carbine.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 12:42 AM (UsLZp)

302 There was that one time I was at the marina, and saw some pretty birds across the lake. I might have mentioned something about wanting to take my motorboat out to those great tits

Last thing I saw was Pam G knocking me out with a tire iron

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 29, 2015 12:42 AM (6FqZa)

303 Hey Pam, nice jugs!

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 29, 2015 12:39 AM (hVdx9)

I'm still slogging thru ace's post about Pam from 2011. Damn you people are funny.

Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 12:42 AM (C3E0x)

304 Sometimes just waving it around is effective enough.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)


Not even remotely connected to my point.

Were you shot by a .410 as a youth?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 12:42 AM (9YDUz)

305 Anna, just found and friended him on FB. Couldn't hurt to ask I guess. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:42 AM (ntObR)

306 Huh? Line's dead.

Sure it's nothing to be concerned about.

Posted by: Absolutely stacked horror movie vixen picking up phone at December 29, 2015 12:42 AM (euO4K)

307 IIRC, you can get .410 rifled slugs, which would make that little shotgun into a virtual .41 Magnum carbine.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 12:42 AM (UsLZp)

Duly noted, thank you!!

Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 12:43 AM (C3E0x)

308 Dinky gun.
Posted by: Cicero
--------------

Well, not exactly. A .410 slug has *twice* the muzzle energy of a .45 ACP.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2015 12:43 AM (RrDm2)

309
295 eman, except there is already in production another Star Trek: Next Generation fan series called Star Trek: Renegades where Walter Koenig as Admiral Pavel Chekov pulls together a rag-tag crew to be 'galactic troubleshooters' with their own starship.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:40 AM (wOdHk)

I saw an episode of that.

It was okay.

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:44 AM (MQEz6)

310 In SC, the whole state used to be 803. Then, they split up, when I can't remember, and I was in 864. That was the Upstate, with 803 being everything else. Now they've added a third.

And I keep straight when I need to use the area code, and when not. WIth the damn cell phone, I've always got use the area code, but with the land lines, I don't.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 29, 2015 12:44 AM (dvuhZ)

311 I'm still slogging thru ace's post about Pam from 2011. Damn you people are funny.

Posted by: Blano
****
Well, as no one else had said it on this thread...

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 29, 2015 12:44 AM (hVdx9)

312 >>Sometimes just waving it around is effective enough.



Don't knock it.

Still haven't found a better way to meet chicks.

Posted by: Garrett at December 29, 2015 12:44 AM (fD4iC)

313 So, the lady that cleans my house for me, gave me a belated Christmas present of the tallest bottle of tequila I've ever seen. It's close to two feet tall from looking at it. Shots all around!

Posted by: lindafell de spair at December 29, 2015 12:45 AM (xVgrA)

314 In SC, the whole state used to be 803. Then, they split up, when I can't remember, and I was in 864. That was the Upstate, with 803 being everything else. Now they've added a third.
--------------

It's on account of all the damn yankees moving to Hilton Head.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2015 12:46 AM (RrDm2)

315 So, the lady that cleans my house for me, gave me a belated Christmas present of the tallest bottle of tequila I've ever seen. It's close to two feet tall from looking at it. Shots all around!

Posted by: lindafell de spair at December 29, 2015 12:45 AM (xVgrA)


Sante!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 12:46 AM (UsLZp)

316 lindafell, how nice of her.

Is it Corralejo?

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:47 AM (ntObR)

317 So, the lady that cleans my house for me, gave me a belated Christmas present of the tallest bottle of tequila I've ever seen. It's close to two feet tall from looking at it. Shots all around!


Consuela swore she'd never clean any house but mine!

Posted by: El Gobernador Jeb Bush at December 29, 2015 12:47 AM (RU5ki)

318 So, the lady that cleans my house for me, gave me a belated Christmas present of the tallest bottle of tequila I've ever seen. It's close to two feet tall from looking at it. Shots all around!

Posted by: lindafell de spair


Are you sure there are no dead bodies swirling around the bottom?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 12:47 AM (9YDUz)

319 There is a TOS episode where Kirk is captured by folks on a planet run by the Roman Empire.

It is a very cheesy episode, but Kirk does bang a blonde slave girl.

The star of the Progeny is his granddaughter by that Kirkshot.

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:47 AM (MQEz6)

320 qdpsteve, could never hurt.

eman, not bothered to see an episode. If I want trouble consultants will request Kei and Yuri of the Dirty Pair.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:47 AM (wOdHk)

321 "Also, if I had to use it for defense it would probably just be at close range. Just guessing here."


3" or so inch blast pattern at 25 yards. We checked them on torso targets.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:48 AM (ZlezW)

322
318 So, the lady that cleans my house for me, gave me a belated Christmas present of the tallest bottle of tequila I've ever seen. It's close to two feet tall from looking at it. Shots all around!

Posted by: lindafell de spair

Are you sure there are no dead bodies swirling around the bottom?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 12:47 AM (9YDUz)

Red bottle?

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:48 AM (MQEz6)

323
310
In SC, the whole state used to be 803. Then, they split up, when I can't
remember, and I was in 864. That was the Upstate, with 803 being
everything else. Now they've added a third.

And I keep straight
when I need to use the area code, and when not. WIth the damn cell
phone, I've always got use the area code, but with the land lines, I
don't.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 29, 2015 12:44 AM (dvuhZ)


I think 803 was a Gen 1 area code, but 864 sounds like a later one. Nowadays, you have overlaid area codes so that your next-door neighbor might not have the same as you.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:48 AM (EzgxV)

324 Atlas Jugs showing off the goods. Nice

Posted by: Zakn at December 29, 2015 12:48 AM (d2pTe)

325 Let's just say if it's marked "Pozole", it better be beans.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 12:49 AM (9YDUz)

326 "You too can own a Jupiter 8! And now back to the arena!"

I guess the Son in an Imperial Rome with TV and sub-machine guns never found his proper TV time-slot. So...

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:49 AM (wOdHk)

327
320 qdpsteve, could never hurt.

eman, not bothered to see an episode. If I want trouble consultants will request Kei and Yuri of the Dirty Pair.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:47 AM (wOdHk)

Alerting the Morons that there is plenty of cleavage on the show.

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:50 AM (MQEz6)

328 So, the lady that cleans my house for me, gave me a belated Christmas present of the tallest bottle of tequila I've ever seen. It's close to two feet tall from looking at it. Shots all around!

Posted by: lindafell de spair
****

She stole one of Hillary's noontime "pick-me-ups".
She will have someone flogged for it going missing.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 29, 2015 12:50 AM (hVdx9)

329 ahahah I hit a spam/word filter thing here. ahahah Atlas + Jugs with two Gs is spam filtered here. That's fucking hilarious.

For such and old school blogosphere joke too. I'm fucking dying

Posted by: Zakn at December 29, 2015 12:51 AM (d2pTe)

330
326 "You too can own a Jupiter 8! And now back to the arena!"

I guess the Son in an Imperial Rome with TV and sub-machine guns never found his proper TV time-slot. So...
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:49 AM (wOdHk)

"Fight or we'll do a Special on you!!"

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:51 AM (MQEz6)

331 I need more booze

Posted by: Zakn at December 29, 2015 12:51 AM (d2pTe)

332 I think 803 was a Gen 1 area code, but 864 sounds like a later one. Nowadays, you have overlaid area codes so that your next-door neighbor might not have the same as you.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 12:48 AM (EzgxV)


Area codes have sort of ceased to be merely "area" codes. Some "area" codes have been assigned to cell providers, and share subscribers with existing land-line area codes. Really, we have moved to full-time 10-digit dialing.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 12:51 AM (UsLZp)

333 I think 803 was a Gen 1 area code, but 864 sounds like a later one. Nowadays, you have overlaid area codes so that your next-door neighbor might not have the same as you.


Posted by: cthulhu
****

Mixing of the area codes. How tacky and disgraceful.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 29, 2015 12:51 AM (hVdx9)

334 291 Look, a good Jam band mixes up their sets. Nothing worse than seeing a band play the same set, every night.

This is what the Dead had going for them. Of course, if it was a Saturday, there was no stopping Bob Weir from calling out another 'Saturday Night'.

Fuckin' Bobby...
Posted by: Garrett at December 29, 2015 12:38 AM (fD4iC)



Yeah, the Dead could play three shows in a row on consecutive nights and not play the same song twice. Good times.

Posted by: rickl at December 29, 2015 12:52 AM (sdi6R)

335 >>>Consuela swore she'd never clean any house but mine!

Posted by: El Gobernador Jeb Bush at December 29, 2015 12:47 AM (RU5ki)<<<

No. No. No, Senor Heb. You no have more lemon Pledge. I go now.

Posted by: Consuela at December 29, 2015 12:52 AM (H9MG5)

336 "Also, if I had to use it for defense it would probably just be at close range. Just guessing here."


3" or so inch blast pattern at 25 yards. We checked them on torso targets.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:48 AM (ZlezW)

I'm filing that under "good enough."

Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 12:53 AM (C3E0x)

337 Sounds like a Jupiter 8 would be a fine fit in the Peon Garage.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 12:53 AM (UsLZp)

338 Always thought ABB was way overrated as a jam band.

Uh, which jamb and wasn't over-rated? Ugh, what a sucky genre. Crap played repetatively for a bunch of dippy stoners. How innovative!

Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 12:54 AM (k9qR4)

339 Pam Geller is hot as shit

Posted by: thathalfrican at December 29, 2015 12:54 AM (R5HRU)

340
337 Sounds like a Jupiter 8 would be a fine fit in the Peon Garage.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 12:53 AM (UsLZp)

I think it had three wheels.

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:54 AM (MQEz6)

341 Pam is 57.

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:55 AM (MQEz6)

342 Sounds like a Jupiter 8 would be a fine fit in the Peon Garage.

Just make sure it doesn't have any parts from foreign galaxies or President Ivanka Trump will slap a 35% import tax on it. ;-)

Seriously folks, I can really understand the appeal of the Donald, and of course he's better than the hildebeast, but is there anyone here who thinks his 35% import car tax is a good idea or that it was well thought-out??

Not trying to start fights, just throwing out the question.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:56 AM (ntObR)

343 .410 slug test:
http://mcb-homis.com/slug_410/slugtest/

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2015 12:56 AM (RrDm2)

344 Yes I do have on DVD "Bread and Circuses" and "Gamesters of Triskelion"

Just ponder if some Kirk progeny from "Gamesters" got loose in the universe. And what if Kirk had used his 'heater' on a gun moll on Iota?

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 12:56 AM (wOdHk)

345 Oops, and the Jupiter 8 comment was meant to be formatted as a quote from AOP.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:56 AM (ntObR)

346 Pam Geller is hot as shit

Posted by: thathalfrican at December 29, 2015 12:54 AM (R5HRU)

Pretty damn nice for 57.

Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 12:56 AM (C3E0x)

347 Pam Geller is hot as shit
Posted by: thathalfrican at December 29, 2015 12:54 AM (R5HRU)

****

No doubt. Listen to her some time.

May change your mind.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 12:57 AM (YLidQ)

348 That is an old pic of her I think.
She is now too respectable to pose for such a shot for her blog.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 29, 2015 12:57 AM (hVdx9)

349 "I'm filing that under "good enough.""


Well, I would never come on here and tell a firearm was "good" when it was crap. I ain't paid by nobody.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:58 AM (nEMZE)

350 Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:56 AM (ntObR)

It isn't important.

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:58 AM (MQEz6)

351 Happy-ish Monday Evening all y'all ...

Posted by: Adriane the Historical Critic ... at December 29, 2015 12:58 AM (AoK0a)

352 Ricardo, you bring up an excellent point.

I remember when folks here were excited about the eventual ability to 3-D print guns. But... how high-quality will those guns be? Would anyone here want to put their life in the hands of a gun made from anything less than the best materials?

My hunch is that 3-D printing of a gun, if it's ever possible, is going to require *really* high-end raw materials to feed into that printer, probably ending up with a product considerably more expensive than the store-bought variety. Just my two cents.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:00 AM (ntObR)

353
Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 12:55 AM (MQEz6)

Still would smash

Posted by: thathalfrican at December 29, 2015 01:00 AM (R5HRU)

354 864 and 803 still have no overlays. However, the new one, for the coastal area (Charleston, Myrtle Beach, and on up) does, and that's 843 and 854.

The damned cell phones are assigned an 864 area code. Anywhere they are, from the land lines, I can call the number without using the area code. However, from the cell phone, I always have to use the full 10 digits to call anyone from anywhere.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 29, 2015 01:00 AM (dvuhZ)

355 Sup Adriane

Posted by: Zakn at December 29, 2015 01:00 AM (d2pTe)

356 Spock probably calculated that by the year 2400 there would be 67,345 Kirkies out there.

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 01:00 AM (MQEz6)

357 The bottle is blue. It's too cold to get out of bed and go look. Hey, I'm a Texas girl and its in the 30's outside and I hate turning the heater on above 64 at night.

Posted by: lindafell de spair at December 29, 2015 01:01 AM (xVgrA)

358 eriously folks, I can really understand the appeal of the Donald, and of course he's better than the hildebeast, but is there anyone here who thinks his 35% import car tax is a good idea or that it was well thought-out??

Not trying to start fights, just throwing out the question.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 12:56 AM (ntObR)


Well, if it got Studebaker back into the domestic car business, I'd be for it.


In case you hadn't noticed, Nissan, Toyota, VW, and BMW among others, qualify as "domestic" cars in the USA, now, at least some models. And many GM and Ford products are "hecho en Mexico, senor".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 01:01 AM (UsLZp)

359
Seriously folks, I can really understand the appeal of the Donald, and of course he's better than the hildebeast, but is there anyone here who thinks his 35% import car tax is a good idea or that it was well thought-out??

Not trying to start fights, just throwing out the question.

Posted by: qdpsteve


See, amigo, this is where you falter: "that it was well thought-out"

Thee Don Donald doesn't think. He feelz. He feelz deeply and he feelz often.

This is the country in which you live. The Feelz Trump the Reason or the Consistency.

Bienvenidos. Los Estados Corroptos.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 01:01 AM (9YDUz)

360 Pam has nice guggs.

Posted by: a biolojy magor at December 29, 2015 01:01 AM (H9MG5)

361 Well, I would never come on here and tell a firearm was "good" when it was crap. I ain't paid by nobody.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
---------------

Hmm.
Let's try to find out, Mike.

Posted by: John Beresford Tipton at December 29, 2015 01:01 AM (RrDm2)

362 eman, maybe not. I understand what Trump was trying to say, which is that he's sick of these multinationals moving jobs out of the US.

It just wasn't a well-thought-out plan IMHO. Of course, has Hillary or any Dem *ever* proposed ANYTHING anywhere near well-thought-out? I'm at a loss to name anything there either. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:01 AM (ntObR)

363 Yes I do have on DVD "Bread and Circuses" and "Gamesters of Triskelion"

I am getting an updated "Gamesters of Triskelion" vibe from the new Star Trek trailer ...

You?

Posted by: Adriane the TV Critic ... at December 29, 2015 01:02 AM (AoK0a)

364 If ya'll want to read salty liberal comments this thread is full of them (Pentagon thwarts TFG closing Gitmo Reddit comments thread) http://tinyurl.com/h5fh5es

Posted by: Zakn at December 29, 2015 01:02 AM (d2pTe)

365 In the year 2425, the UFP finally finds an Earth descended human without one trace of Kirk DNA.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 01:02 AM (wOdHk)

366 >>Yeah, the Dead could play three shows in a row on consecutive nights and not play the same song twice. Good times.



And on any night you might see them play a tune they hadn't played in years...or, ever!

Of course, you had to catch 6-7 shows to see one that rocked from start to finish.

Posted by: Garrett at December 29, 2015 01:03 AM (xF9tV)

367 AOP, exactamundo. :-)

Also, good points weft.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:03 AM (ntObR)

368 Would anyone here want to put their life in the hands of a gun made from anything less than the best materials?

Ah! Aaaaaahhh!

*throws away everything made East of Paris after 1946*

No, but seriously, whaa?

Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 01:03 AM (k9qR4)

369 "http://mcb-homis.com/slug_410/slugtest/"

Heh, it'll take the piss ALL out of you.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 01:03 AM (I+t3J)

370 Oh, no worms. It's tequila not mescal. {{shudder}}

Posted by: lindafell de spair at December 29, 2015 01:03 AM (xVgrA)

371 Well, I would never come on here and tell a firearm was "good" when it was crap. I ain't paid by nobody.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 12:58 AM (nEMZE)

Oh I know that. Took you at your word. It was your description that told me it was "good enough" for self defense.

Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 01:04 AM (C3E0x)

372
362 eman, maybe not. I understand what Trump was trying to say, which is that he's sick of these multinationals moving jobs out of the US.

It just wasn't a well-thought-out plan IMHO. Of course, has Hillary or any Dem *ever* proposed ANYTHING anywhere near well-thought-out? I'm at a loss to name anything there either. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:01 AM (ntObR)

It is not important because it is a drop of water in a tidal wave.

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 01:04 AM (MQEz6)

373 This is the country in which you live. The Feelz Trump the Reason or the Consistency.

Bienvenidos. Los Estados Corroptos.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 01:01 AM (9YDUz)

*****

Yep. He has felt his way from 1 million to 10 billion. I'm kinda good with that.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:04 AM (YLidQ)

374 Pay Ton, I should note, I am NOT an expert on guns or their manufacturing.

If you want to dismiss me as a spitballer, feel free. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:04 AM (ntObR)

375 hi all

Posted by: chemjeff at December 29, 2015 01:05 AM (Hsrut)

376 I remember when folks here were excited about the eventual ability to
3-D print guns. But... how high-quality will those guns be? Would anyone
here want to put their life in the hands of a gun made from anything
less than the best materials?
---
I just liked the idea of every gun grabber knowing that capability was out here on the loose and there's not a damn thing they can do about it.

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:05 AM (ZbV+0)

377 Zakn at December 29, 2015 01:00 AM (d2pTe)

Arguing with a main line clog ... but fortunately, it appears to be limited to the addition line and not the kitchen / original bathroom / laundry room line.

Although Murphy's Law, Pride Goeth Before Plumbing Emergency, et cetera.

Posted by: Adriane the TV Critic ... at December 29, 2015 01:06 AM (AoK0a)

378 "Hmm.
Let's try to find out, Mike.
Posted by: John Beresford Tipton"



Do it up.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 01:06 AM (8D45C)

379 Methos, fair enough. I'd just hope these 3-D printed guns, if they ever show up, are good for more than just a few shots before they disintegrate/blow up.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:06 AM (ntObR)

380 and there's not a damn thing they can do about it.
Posted by: Methos
-------------

You're kidding, right?

They require the registration of *toy* drones.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2015 01:07 AM (RrDm2)

381 Adriane, you mean Star Trek:Beyond? To me, after Chris Pine manages to lose his starship, no wonder the Klingons sneer at humans just throwing away spaceships like that, and they land in their escape pods on Mad Max World - well after that I said "Nope! No way."

Commodore Matt Decker breaking down on the aux. bridge, "Don't you think I know that! I beamed them down to safety. ... And the thing hit again knocking out the transporter. ... I had to listen to them begging to be saved and I could do nothing!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 01:07 AM (wOdHk)

382 Plus, Kirk travelled in Time.

Sure, Edith Keeler dropped out early, but I bet Kirk got some Great Depression action on the side.

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 01:08 AM (MQEz6)

383 Would anyone here want to put their life in the hands of a gun made from anything less than the best materials?

Ah! Aaaaaahhh!

*throws away everything made East of Paris after 1946*

No, but seriously, whaa?

Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 01:03 AM (k9qR4)


If all I had available to me was a zip gun that used firecrackers to propel a marble down a length of half-inch water pipe, well I guess I would trust my life to it, if the alternative was surrendering to a head-chopping jihadi armed with an AK-47.


Not that I am that badly off. But needs must.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 01:08 AM (UsLZp)

384 I remember when folks here were excited about the eventual ability to
3-D print guns. But... how high-quality will those guns be? Would anyone
here want to put their life in the hands of a gun made from anything
less than the best materials?


They do this in the Third World all the time. Heck, they do it in American prisons. "Zip Guns".

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 29, 2015 01:09 AM (6FqZa)

385 New York City's Zodiac copy cat killer used 9mm bullets fired from homemade zip guns, yes he had multiple zip guns in his apartment, on his victims.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 01:10 AM (wOdHk)

386 "Oh I know that. Took you at your word. It was your description that told me it was "good enough" for self defense."


Oh, no, worry, Blano. I was respoding upstream.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 01:10 AM (bpwcV)

387 If you want to dismiss me as a spitballer, feel free. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:04 AM (ntObR)


No, not that! I'm just saying that "best" is kinda suspect in general. I mean, I happily shoot a SMLE No 1 Mk III*, and if you want to claim that's made from anything approaching `best` you're insane.

Also:

Damascus 12ga shotguns.
Anything AK-
Any Austrian pistol.

But they work, right?

Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 01:10 AM (k9qR4)

388 "But... how high-quality will those guns be? Would anyone here want to
put their life in the hands of a gun made from anything less than the
best materials?"

Good enough once to get you a better gun IYKWIMAITYD


Posted by: Richard McEnroe at December 29, 2015 01:10 AM (Kucy5)

389 Seriously folks, I can really understand the appeal of the Donald, and of course he's better than the hildebeast, but is there anyone here who thinks his 35% import car tax is a good idea or that it was well thought-out??

Not trying to start fights, just throwing out the question.

Posted by: qdpsteve

Well, I'm generally an anti-tariff guy, but I can see making an exception here.

Disclaimer: forgive me if I'm wrong, and I haven't researched this lately, so experts feel free to tell me otherwise.

But IIRC, American cars are still heavily tariffed by the Japanese, which partly explains why so few American cars are/were sold there.

I'm no union goon, but this issue, if it's still out there, has gone on for 30+ years. I would have no problem with the Donald saying "ok, we're just gonna do what Japan is doing" and stiffing Japanese automakers with the same tariff as those on American cars.

If the Japanese want to stop it, then get rid of their tariffs. Period. I'd be ok with the Donald doing something like that.

Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 01:11 AM (C3E0x)

390 AOP, bth and Anna, hmm.

Okay, thanks for the info.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:11 AM (ntObR)

391
381 Adriane, you mean Star Trek:Beyond? To me, after Chris Pine manages to lose his starship, no wonder the Klingons sneer at humans just throwing away spaceships like that, and they land in their escape pods on Mad Max World - well after that I said "Nope! No way."

Commodore Matt Decker breaking down on the aux. bridge, "Don't you think I know that! I beamed them down to safety. ... And the thing hit again knocking out the transporter. ... I had to listen to them begging to be saved and I could do nothing!"
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 01:07 AM (wOdHk)

It does look stupid. Kirk's hair looks it came from a Seinfeld episode, and the new uniforms look like they should be hailing taxis for VIPs.

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 01:11 AM (MQEz6)

392 If I was Trump and got in, I would appoint Ivanka to something just to piss people off.

Then I'd appoint Roxy Raye to something, make up some title. Maybe promote National Colonoscopy Day or something. Her true purpose would be to demonstrate very graphically what's going to happen to the bureaucracy you if you fucked with me.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 29, 2015 01:11 AM (dvuhZ)

393 Oh, no, worry, Blano. I was respoding upstream.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 01:10 AM (bpwcV)

(breathes sigh of relief, pours another drink)

Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 01:11 AM (C3E0x)

394 Plumbing is something I leave to professionals. I'll sweat an air line in at work, maybe do a little bit of piping and tubing here and there, but not Plumbing. Leave that shit to professionals.

They are worth the money. Unfortunately.

Posted by: Zakn at December 29, 2015 01:12 AM (d2pTe)

395 They require the registration of *toy* drones.
---
A friend of mine told me about how one of his nephews got a Millenium Falcon drone and they crashed it trying to do a loop.

I told them about the FAA regulation and everyone just laughed about it. I have a feeling drone registration will be about as successful as the NY gun registration was.

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:13 AM (ZbV+0)

396 Methos, fair enough. I'd just hope these 3-D printed guns, if they ever show up, are good for more than just a few shots before they disintegrate/blow up.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:06 AM (ntObR)


Everybody blathers about 3-D printing guns, and I'm sure it's possible, for some values of "possible". But nobody talks about making 3-D printed ammo. Because you can't 3-D "print" stuff with unique chemical properties. Yet.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 01:13 AM (UsLZp)

397 352
Ricardo, you bring up an excellent point.



I remember when folks here were excited about the eventual ability
to 3-D print guns. But... how high-quality will those guns be? Would
anyone here want to put their life in the hands of a gun made from
anything less than the best materials?



My hunch is that 3-D printing of a gun, if it's ever possible, is
going to require *really* high-end raw materials to feed into that
printer, probably ending up with a product considerably more expensive
than the store-bought variety. Just my two cents.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:00 AM (ntObR)


The part of a gun that is legally a "gun" and not an "accessory" is the lower -- the part that holds the trigger and handle. The part that has the most effect on accuracy is the barrel. You can 3D print a "gun" that is half-assed crap, put a decent barrel and other parts on it, and have a nice gun.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:13 AM (EzgxV)

398 Pay Ton, apologies if I seemed at all peeved at you or about anything else. I wasn't at all. :-) And those are all good points and good guns. Thanks. Right, what works is what works. Richard McEnroe also made that point well earlier, thanks to him too.

I could certainly stand to learn more about guns, their history, their manufacture, the various types, etc etc.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:13 AM (ntObR)

399
I remember when folks here were excited about the eventual ability to 3-D print guns. But... how high-quality will those guns be? Would anyone here want to put their life in the hands of a gun made from anything less than the best materials?

My hunch is that 3-D printing of a gun, if it's ever possible, is going to require *really* high-end raw materials to feed into that printer, probably ending up with a product considerably more expensive than the store-bought variety. Just my two cents.

Posted by: qdpsteve


Why do you think sintering and other metal working tech is outside the reach of 3d tech?

More to the point, why should anyone think that 3d tech is at some economical end point?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 01:14 AM (9YDUz)

400 As part of their Riot Squad, Tokyo police now have a drone squad. After someone landed a drone on the Prime Minister's residence with radioactive material earlier this year, now they have this giant I think six rotor drone with a big capture net for any drones that get too close to government buildings.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 01:15 AM (wOdHk)

401 "
(breathes sigh of relief, pours another drink)"

Not required. That little shotty is a dandy of home desense gun.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 01:15 AM (yOYgZ)

402 AOP and cthulhu, I was ignorant of those factors as well. Thanks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:15 AM (ntObR)

403 I could certainly stand to learn more about guns, their history, their manufacture, the various types, etc etc.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:13 AM (ntObR)

You will learn much here. Every time guns come up here, I take notes.

Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 01:15 AM (C3E0x)

404 weft, didn't think of that either. :-)

I'm a dum dum.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:16 AM (ntObR)

405 329 ahahah I hit a spam/word filter thing here. ahahah Atlas + Jugs with two Gs is spam filtered here. That's fucking hilarious.

For such and old school blogosphere joke too. I'm fucking dying

Posted by: Zakn at December 29, 2015 12:51 AM (d2pTe)



Eh, that's not the reason it sets off the spam filter. Its because of those boots Tom Brady is so fond of. Same reason the Ravens Linebacker Terrell Sugs sometimes set off the spam filter too when his name is spelled correctly with 2 g's.

Posted by: buzzion at December 29, 2015 01:16 AM (zt+N6)

406 >>Damascus 12ga shotguns.



You would be amazed at how well those perform if they never suffered from corrosion.
Most of the nightmares you hear about those are due to corrosion weakened barrels, not the steel itself.

Posted by: Garrett at December 29, 2015 01:17 AM (/g6B/)

407 but not Plumbing. Leave that shit to professionals.

I have a buddy who is a licensed plumber. He'll tell you it's silly. I mean, there's a pretty big "don't be a retard" factor, but if you're over that hump, it's not rocket surgery. Make sure your drain lines have an adequate slope and a couple of well-placed clean outs. Make sure that you aren't trying to stitch lead pipes to incoming copper. Don't try to patch leaky black iron pipes with coffee cans and putty. Oh, and don't run PEX right next to windows without wrapping it to protect it from UV. Tsk.

Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 01:20 AM (k9qR4)

408 You know it is illegal to possess cocaine.

No one will ever be able to stop people from getting weapons.

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2015 01:20 AM (MQEz6)

409 weft, didn't think of that either. :-)

I'm a dum dum.

Posted by: qdpsteve


No sarc needed, amigo. Just blaze away.

The ghostgun printer is pretty much unstoppable at this point; yes, not a true printer. It's a mini-mill with limited function.

The point being that the cat, or ghat rather is out of the bag.

There are enough schemas out on the net to null and void the banning of the technical knowledge of engineering firearms at a distance.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 01:21 AM (9YDUz)

410 I'm a dum dum.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:16 AM (ntObR)


Search "home-made guns" or similar on Youtube. There is a shit-load of stuff there. I saw one quite-detailed work-up on a .22 caliber submachine gun. It worked; emptied a 20-round mag in about a half-second. "Buzz-click." And if you had a hacksaw, vise, and welder, you could make it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 01:21 AM (UsLZp)

411 Oh God. Of course. You just knew it was going to happen. Johnny Manziel might be benched for the final game of the season for a 10 second video from Christmas Eve. They told him no more social media videos of him partying, and well there it is.

Posted by: buzzion at December 29, 2015 01:22 AM (zt+N6)

412 weft, hmm. Thanks.

And was just kidding around with my dum dum comment. Again, not trying to cast aspersions or play head games with anybody here. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:22 AM (ntObR)

413 I told them about the FAA regulation and everyone just laughed about it. I have a feeling drone registration will be about as successful as the NY gun registration was.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:13 AM (ZbV+0)

*****

Well, except for that $250k/incident fee thingy, you may he right.

For all of the wrong reasons, they are dead serious about this.

The heavy hand squashes again.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:23 AM (YLidQ)

414 I think six rotor drone with a big capture net for any drones that get too close to government buildings.

Posted by: Anna Puma


No mecha, no peace!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 01:23 AM (9YDUz)

415 AOP, yikes. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:23 AM (ntObR)

416 >>>Oh God. Of course. You just knew it was going to
happen. Johnny Manziel might be benched for the final game of the
season for a 10 second video from Christmas Eve. They told him no more
social media videos of him partying, and well there it is.

Posted by: buzzion at December 29, 2015 01:22 AM (zt+N6)<<<

What an idiot. He'll never learn.

Posted by: Josh Gordon at December 29, 2015 01:24 AM (H9MG5)

417 402
AOP and cthulhu, I was ignorant of those factors as well. Thanks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:15 AM (ntObR)


I was, myself, until a couple of months back. Then I took a basic familiarity/training course and invested in some range time. I now know enough to fumble my way through just about everything, and I'm showing improvement in ways that are important to me.


"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."

--Robert A. Heinlein

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:25 AM (EzgxV)

418 weft-cut, it also sounds like if enough of those mini-mills get out there... it doesn't matter what the DC nannies have to say, guns and their manufacture are here to stay.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:26 AM (ntObR)

419 413
I told them about the FAA regulation and everyone just laughed about it.
I have a feeling drone registration will be about as successful as the
NY gun registration was.

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:13 AM (ZbV+0)



*****



Well, except for that $250k/incident fee thingy, you may he right.



For all of the wrong reasons, they are dead serious about this.



The heavy hand squashes again.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:23 AM (YLidQ)
413
I told them about the FAA regulation and everyone just laughed about it.
I have a feeling drone registration will be about as successful as the
NY gun registration was.

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:13 AM (ZbV+0)



*****



Well, except for that $250k/incident fee thingy, you may he right.



For all of the wrong reasons, they are dead serious about this.



The heavy hand squashes again.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:23 AM (YLidQ)


Most of that goes away if you walk away from anything captured.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:28 AM (EzgxV)

420 Well, except for that $250k/incident fee thingy, you may he right.
---
Let them fine a 10 year old a quarter million and impound the Falcon.

Please, please, please.

I can see the million drone march on Washington already.

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:30 AM (ZbV+0)

421 You would be amazed at how well those perform if they never suffered from corrosion.
Most of the nightmares you hear about those are due to corrosion weakened barrels, not the steel itself.

Posted by: Garrett at December 29, 2015 01:17 AM (/g6B/)


They're okay, I've used 'em without problems. But they're metalurgically inferior, because damascus steel isn't as well constructed as something that doesn't have dozens (to hundreds) of weld lines to make it pretty. It's all about application: damascus knives and swords are a good use of the materiel; shotgun barrels are not.

They're fine as long as you don't approach their yield limits, but they're not something to be treated like a 590, what with loading up wax slugs in high-brass and such.

Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 01:31 AM (k9qR4)

422 weft-cut, it also sounds like if enough of those mini-mills get out there... it doesn't matter what the DC nannies have to say, guns and their manufacture are here to stay.

Posted by: qdpsteve


CNC/CADCAM machinery is pretty much a common place concept across machining industries to the point that it doesn't require any specific firearm specific machine to render the future brownshirts' dreams fantasy.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 29, 2015 01:31 AM (9YDUz)

423 Just wait 'til the first privately owned drone manages to work its way through an open window at the WH.

OMG, will there be panic.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:31 AM (ntObR)

424 418
weft-cut, it also sounds like if enough of those mini-mills get out
there... it doesn't matter what the DC nannies have to say, guns and
their manufacture are here to stay.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:26 AM (ntObR)


You mean the mini-mills you can get from Harbor Freight for $400 (sale + 25%-off coupon)?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:32 AM (EzgxV)

425 Most of that goes away if you walk away from anything captured.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:28 AM (EzgxV)

****

Not if you're Govvy assigned number is on it. Leads right to your door, and oh, they intend to publish names and addresses.

Ain't that just special?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:32 AM (YLidQ)

426 cthulhu, yikes. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:33 AM (ntObR)

427 weft-cut, it also sounds like if enough of those mini-mills get out there... it doesn't matter what the DC nannies have to say, guns and their manufacture are here to stay.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:26 AM (ntObR)


You, or I, or anyone here, can buy a mini-mill for under a thousand bucks. And with a mini-mill, you can take an "80%" AR-15 lower receiver, and complete the machining operations to make it 100%, ready to accept the barrel, bolt, and all the other parts.


But don't think that you "need" a mill to make a perfectly serviceable gun. A lathe, drill press, and basic metal-working hand tools will make whatever you might want. You think the gunsmiths who made the rifles and muskets used in the Revolutionary War had 3-axis mills and electric-powered lathes? But they made deadly weapons, nonetheless.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 01:33 AM (UsLZp)

428 AOP, well, it's official.

The dems will be calling for mill control very soon. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:34 AM (ntObR)

429 423
Just wait 'til the first privately owned drone manages to work its way through an open window at the WH.



OMG, will there be panic.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:31 AM (ntObR)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNPJMk2fgJU

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:35 AM (EzgxV)

430 Just wait 'til the first privately owned drone manages to work its way through an open window at the WH.

OMG, will there be panic.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:31 AM (ntObR)

*****

As just an amateur hobbyist UAV ( NOT DRONE!) pilot, I could land one in the SS's leads hand from 300 yards away. These regs are a joke.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (YLidQ)

431 Not if you're Govvy assigned number is on it.
---
According to the guy who makes drones that was interviewed on FBN recently, the only registration is online, after you have it. So all you need to do is not register it.

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (ZbV+0)

432 good night all

Posted by: chemjeff at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (Hsrut)

433 Panic? Wait until the drone crashes into one of Michelle's dresses. There will be screaming.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (wOdHk)

434 cthulhu, all it would need is a speaker for Putin to talk through to the president.

"Dance for me, rummy!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (ntObR)

435 It took till comment #294 for someone to mention the jugs? Amateurs.

Posted by: Bubba at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (zZIKl)

436 I thought the White House windows don't open.

Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (mUsVF)

437 You think the gunsmiths who made the rifles and muskets used in the Revolutionary War had 3-axis mills and electric-powered lathes? But they made deadly weapons, nonetheless.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 01:33 AM (UsLZp)


Good point. But, they had an institutional accumulation of thousands of hours of making and testing (that killed plenty of testers) that we (who don't make weapons every day) don't have. It's tough to replicate that.

Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (k9qR4)

438 Anna, you mean slashes one of the dresses up?

Who knows. Michelle might like her new 'alterations.'

("Stop staring at my ass!!")

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:38 AM (ntObR)

439 425
Most of that goes away if you walk away from anything captured.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:28 AM (EzgxV)



****



Not if you're Govvy assigned number is on it. Leads right to your door, and oh, they intend to publish names and addresses.



Ain't that just special?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:32 AM (YLidQ)


You're assuming anybody is going to actually register. I'll put $5 on < 10%.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:38 AM (EzgxV)

440 Chi, okay. Drone bangs into the window. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:39 AM (ntObR)

441 Ah geez, if I had the money to produce big-time movie shorts...

That would be a great one: Everybody in the WH, including the president, running screaming from dozens of drones flying through.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:41 AM (ntObR)

442 According to the guy who makes drones that was interviewed on FBN recently, the only registration is online, after you have it. So all you need to do is not register it.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (ZbV+0)

*****

A whole lotta people make "UAVs". Not just one guy.

Your theory sounds good, unless you are caught flying an unregistered UAV. Then? Up to a $250k fine, first offense.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:42 AM (YLidQ)

443 Federal Drone Registration?

Yeah, ask 'em about how that worked for the CB craze in the late '70s.

First, they're not Drones, but Remotely Piloted Vehicles (RPVs) /pedant.

Second, I'd be sorely tempted to load a full flight path program to an iFone, turn it into a true "drone", and have it fly a bomb run to drop a quart of chicken shit right atop the Congressional Dome.

Good for them, I can't afford such an extravagance right now. Damn shoulder.

But it'd be fun to watch if someone else took that same notion and run with it.

*grin*


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 29, 2015 01:42 AM (McRlu)

444 AOP, well, it's official.

The dems will be calling for mill control very soon. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:34 AM (ntObR)


It wouldn't surprise me if they did. Because stupid insists upon itself. But I have everything I need, right now, in my shop to make guns. But I use the tools for automotive work, mostly. And I have never made a gun. But I could, if I put my mind to it. I guarantee you that I have suitable scrap metal on hand to make a pistol or a long gun. because metal suitable for that use is also suitable for many other applications. The only operation that I don't know for sure I could manage is rifling a barrel. But smoothbores work fine, if accuracy at a distance isn't a design requirement.


This isn't any kind of a brag on my part. Just trying to make clear that making an operable gun is well within the purview of any handy kind of person with a decently-equipped shop.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 01:45 AM (UsLZp)

445 And I'm about the last person to say "Don't try." but you have to take into consideration all the people who failed and got badly injured or killed trying: it takes a lot of reading to make up for experience. Read up on why certain firearms failed, learn from other people's mistakes, and make something that builds on (more than) a century and a half of accumulated knowlege.

Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 01:46 AM (k9qR4)

446 You're assuming anybody is going to actually register. I'll put $5 on
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:38 AM (EzgxV)

*****

Initially, sure. Once they have fucked over several powerless individuals for non compliance, think peeps might fall in line?

Now you see why the initial penalty is so stout.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:46 AM (YLidQ)

447 Your theory sounds good, unless you are caught flying an unregistered UAV. Then? Up to a $250k fine, first offense.
---
You're right. We should all definitely cower before government because they might try to rob us.

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:47 AM (ZbV+0)

448 437
You think the gunsmiths who made the rifles and muskets used in the
Revolutionary War had 3-axis mills and electric-powered lathes? But they
made deadly weapons, nonetheless.



Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 01:33 AM (UsLZp)



Good point. But, they had an institutional accumulation of
thousands of hours of making and testing (that killed plenty of testers)
that we (who don't make weapons every day) don't have. It's tough to
replicate that.

Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (k9qR4)
437
You think the gunsmiths who made the rifles and muskets used in the
Revolutionary War had 3-axis mills and electric-powered lathes? But they
made deadly weapons, nonetheless.



Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 01:33 AM (UsLZp)



Good point. But, they had an institutional accumulation of
thousands of hours of making and testing (that killed plenty of testers)
that we (who don't make weapons every day) don't have. It's tough to
replicate that.

Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (k9qR4)


The reason that the 1911 design is called that is because it was accepted by the Army in that year, having been a John Moses Browning (PBUH) design submitted by Colt. Browning built all of his prototypes by hand (no CNC) on mills and lathes less precise and capable than can be purchased today at 1/10 the inflation-adjusted price of those he used.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:48 AM (EzgxV)

449 Dial "M" for Murder.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 01:48 AM (Xo1Rt)

450 442
According to the guy who makes drones that was interviewed on FBN
recently, the only registration is online, after you have it. So all you
need to do is not register it.

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (ZbV+0)



*****



A whole lotta people make "UAVs". Not just one guy.



Your theory sounds good, unless you are caught flying an unregistered UAV. Then? Up to a $250k fine, first offense.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:42 AM (YLidQ)


They're going to get a scuttle-button. People aren't going to register.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:49 AM (EzgxV)

451 Dial "M" for Murder.

"Thank you for calling Murder, Inc. All of our henchman are on other calls right now. Please hold. To murder a family member or loved one, press 1. To murder a public figure or politician, press 2. To create a murderous scene designed to make some sort of sociological or political point, press 3. For all other mass killing needs, stay on the line. Your rage is very important to us..."

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 01:52 AM (ntObR)

452 I'm gonna go fondle my new .410 for a few minutes then call it a night.

Later all, take care.

Posted by: Blano at December 29, 2015 01:52 AM (C3E0x)

453 You're right. We should all definitely cower before government because they might try to rob us.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:47 AM (ZbV+0)

***

You're missing a little or a lot of context in my upstream comments, methinks. I am explaining what the law is currently, not what I support or agree with.

You have grocked that, right?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:52 AM (YLidQ)

454 447
Your theory sounds good, unless you are caught flying an unregistered UAV. Then? Up to a $250k fine, first offense.
---
You're right. We should all definitely cower before government because they might try to rob us.


Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:47 AM (ZbV+0)


Come to think of it -- the "scuttle" command might just arm an explosive on tampering. You wouldn't use it if you lost the drone in the woods, but if you saw a government asshole scoop it up.....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:53 AM (EzgxV)

455 The Soviets restricted typewriters and mimeograph machines.

But failed to anticipate the fax machine and cassette tape.

Dot Gov might have a handle on the mini mill and even this generation's 3d printer.

But "NEXT" will kick their ass, every time.

Keep NEXTing, Horde.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 29, 2015 01:53 AM (McRlu)

456 They're going to get a scuttle-button. People aren't going to register.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:49 AM (EzgxV)

****

Not sure why you chose to selectively edit, but please see 453.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:55 AM (YLidQ)

457 Good point. But, they had an institutional accumulation of thousands of hours of making and testing (that killed plenty of testers) that we (who don't make weapons every day) don't have. It's tough to replicate that.

Posted by: Pay Ton at December 29, 2015 01:37 AM (k9qR4)


But we have, vicariously, all that old knowledge, written down in manuals, in books, and on the Internet. And we have access to hundreds of tons of high-grade steel, better than the gunsmiths of the 18th Century ever dreamed of. Car axles. Steering shafts. Truck axles, PTO shafts. Torsion bars, you name it. Some already with a bore down their length, musket barrels ready-made!


Liberator pistols, do-it-yourself style.


Am I going to rush out and build a bunch of home-made guns? While I can still buy good ones? No way. But I have the means to do so, and so do thousands upon thousands of people in the USA, Canada, and most every other Western country that has a home workshop tradition. You don't need special purpose-built gun-smithing tools to make one-offs, and that was my entire point.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 01:56 AM (UsLZp)

458 You have grocked that, right?
---
Yes. I'm saying Americans should do their duty to nullify the busybodies attempts to control us in practice and in quantity.

Conveniently this will also be what people do if they haven't heard, don't care, or are lazy.

Seriously let them try to fine someone a quarter million dollars for a hobby. It's another 5% bump for Trump and grow the general rejection of government.

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:57 AM (ZbV+0)

459 455
The Soviets restricted typewriters and mimeograph machines.



But failed to anticipate the fax machine and cassette tape.



Dot Gov might have a handle on the mini mill and even this generation's 3d printer.



But "NEXT" will kick their ass, every time.



Keep NEXTing, Horde.







Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 29, 2015 01:53 AM (McRlu)


When government is something to be shoved down from the elites onto the bitter clingers, there will always be a call to control and disarm the populace.

By comparison, when Andrew Jackson received a 1400 pound wheel of cheddar as a gift, he invited all those in Washington to enter the White House and carve themselves off a chunk with knives. http://www.mentalfloss.com/article /27228/andrew-jacksons-big-block-cheese .

Probably helping with security was the fact that AJ had killed several people in duels, was a war hero, and was generally armed.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:02 AM (EzgxV)

460 Yes. I'm saying Americans should do their duty to nullify the busybodies attempts to control us in practice and in quantity.

Conveniently this will also be what people do if they haven't heard, don't care, or are lazy.

Seriously let them try to fine someone a quarter million dollars for a hobby. It's another 5% bump for Trump and grow the general rejection of government.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 01:57 AM (ZbV+0)

*****

Awesome.

So, I can pen you in as the test case that will cost you $250k in legal fees, to make your point, right?

Cuz, that is what it's gonna take. Easy to talk big. Tougher to back it up with real world consequences.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:02 AM (YLidQ)

461 Cooth,

I'd cut the cheese with you, anytime.

Well, nearly. But not in a closed elevator, okay?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 29, 2015 02:04 AM (McRlu)

462 Cuz, that is what it's gonna take. Easy to talk big. Tougher to back it up with real world consequences.
---
You've apparently missed the part where I said people won't bother registering because they don't know or are lazy. Which I backed up with a discussion of people I know who laughed away the idea of registering their drone because it's obviously silly.

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:06 AM (ZbV+0)

463 Merry Christmas.

For those looking for stuff about homemade firearms (for entertainment purposes only) look up a guy names P.A. Luty.

A Brit (he's dead now) who made some variations on the sten out of commonly available metal tubes, pipes and solids.

He was harassed by the Brits and served time for having 1 bullet in his house. (you're not allowed to have bullets unless you have a gun for it and you have to have a license and registered the weapon.)

You can search and find his entire book under various names by searching his name or the title "Expedient Homemade Firearms"

Or you can buy it (if it's still available) from Amazon using the convenient Amazon button on the home page right here.

Caution: Any cartridge has a high explosive charge contained within. Setting off that cartridge could do serious damage and/or kill you or someone nearby. Do your research on metal tubing maximum pressures and on the pressures exerted by various calibers of cartridges. Use remote triggered setups to fire any homemade weapons and understand that they will not have the longevity of manufactured weapons. After each use they should be either discarded or examined thoroughly for damage done by that usage. Cracks, bulges, misalignments and any sort of binding should be examined for the reason of occurrence.

DO NOT let others see you making them, firing them or carrying them. Tell no one what you are doing. It's a multi thousand dollar fine and minimum 5 years in Federal Prison for violations. That's if you make a submachine gun (which is what Luty built) or a silencer. If you make a normal gun (but it has to be one that doesn't use the blowback design as the BATF has stated that this design can be easily converted to auto fire. Which is true) that fires once with on pull of the trigger, you will not be in violation of manufacturing a weapon. Know the laws, have an attorney on retainer and put all your property in some else's name otherwise.

Good luck.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 02:07 AM (Xo1Rt)

464 456
They're going to get a scuttle-button. People aren't going to register.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 01:49 AM (EzgxV)



****



Not sure why you chose to selectively edit, but please see 453.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 01:55 AM (YLidQ)


No selective editing -- I just think the law is a loud fart if not obeyed or enforced. I don't think it'll be obeyed, and I don't think it will be successfully enforced even after politicians start getting regularly assassinated (which, sadly, I believe will happen), because any attempt at enforcement will result in targeting the enforcers.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:09 AM (EzgxV)

465 put all your property in some else's name...
-------------

That's 'Hammer', two r's

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2015 02:09 AM (oFSUK)

466 That's 'Hammer', two r's
Posted by: Mike Hammer

*guffaw*

Never mind. Time to go to bed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2015 02:10 AM (oFSUK)

467 461
Cooth,



I'd cut the cheese with you, anytime.



Well, nearly. But not in a closed elevator, okay?







Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 29, 2015 02:04 AM (McRlu)


How 'bout we meet at some neutral spot, sometime?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:12 AM (EzgxV)

468 That's 'Hammer', two r's

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 29, 2015 02:09 AM (oFSUK)


Heh.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 02:12 AM (UsLZp)

469 You've apparently missed the part where I said people won't bother registering because they don't know or are lazy. Which I backed up with a discussion of people I know who laughed away the idea of registering their drone because it's obviously silly.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:06 AM (ZbV+0)

****

Possibly so, so let me try this one more time.

Government has been embarrased by UAV incicents. Govt. likes nothing less being embarassed. So, regs are now in place, which are ridiculous on their face and at their core.

Regardless, regs will be enforced by making examples out of those who do not concede. We have seen this movie before, never ends well.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:14 AM (YLidQ)

470 463
Merry Christmas.

For those looking for stuff about homemade firearms (for entertainment purposes only) look up a guy names P.A. Luty.
463
Merry Christmas.

For those looking for stuff about homemade firearms (for entertainment purposes only) look up a guy names P.A. Luty.

A Brit (he's dead now) who made some variations on the sten out of commonly available metal tubes, pipes and solids.

He
was harassed by the Brits and served time for having 1 bullet in his
house. (you're not allowed to have bullets unless you have a gun for it
and you have to have a license and registered the weapon.)

You can search and find his entire book under various names by searching his name or the title "Expedient Homemade Firearms"

Or you can buy it (if it's still available) from Amazon using the convenient Amazon button on the home page right here.

Caution:
Any cartridge has a high explosive charge contained within. Setting off
that cartridge could do serious damage and/or kill you or someone
nearby. Do your research on metal tubing maximum pressures and on the
pressures exerted by various calibers of cartridges. Use remote
triggered setups to fire any homemade weapons and understand that they
will not have the longevity of manufactured weapons. After each use they
should be either discarded or examined thoroughly for damage done by
that usage. Cracks, bulges, misalignments and any sort of binding should
be examined for the reason of occurrence.

DO NOT let others see
you making them, firing them or carrying them. Tell no one what you are
doing. It's a multi thousand dollar fine and minimum 5 years in Federal
Prison for violations. That's if you make a submachine gun (which is
what Luty built) or a silencer. If you make a normal gun (but it has to
be one that doesn't use the blowback design as the BATF has stated that
this design can be easily converted to auto fire. Which is true) that
fires once with on pull of the trigger, you will not be in violation of
manufacturing a weapon. Know the laws, have an attorney on retainer and
put all your property in some else's name otherwise.

Good luck.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 02:07 AM (Xo1Rt)
Some of his other works are available to download for free....you might not need them just now.....

A Brit (he's dead now) who made some variations on the sten out of commonly available metal tubes, pipes and solids.

He
was harassed by the Brits and served time for having 1 bullet in his
house. (you're not allowed to have bullets unless you have a gun for it
and you have to have a license and registered the weapon.)

You can search and find his entire book under various names by searching his name or the title "Expedient Homemade Firearms"

Or you can buy it (if it's still available) from Amazon using the convenient Amazon button on the home page right here.

Caution:
Any cartridge has a high explosive charge contained within. Setting off
that cartridge could do serious damage and/or kill you or someone
nearby. Do your research on metal tubing maximum pressures and on the
pressures exerted by various calibers of cartridges. Use remote
triggered setups to fire any homemade weapons and understand that they
will not have the longevity of manufactured weapons. After each use they
should be either discarded or examined thoroughly for damage done by
that usage. Cracks, bulges, misalignments and any sort of binding should
be examined for the reason of occurrence.

DO NOT let others see
you making them, firing them or carrying them. Tell no one what you are
doing. It's a multi thousand dollar fine and minimum 5 years in Federal
Prison for violations. That's if you make a submachine gun (which is
what Luty built) or a silencer. If you make a normal gun (but it has to
be one that doesn't use the blowback design as the BATF has stated that
this design can be easily converted to auto fire. Which is true) that
fires once with on pull of the trigger, you will not be in violation of
manufacturing a weapon. Know the laws, have an attorney on retainer and
put all your property in some else's name otherwise.

Good luck.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 02:07 AM (Xo1Rt)



Some of his other works are available to download for free....you might not need them just now.....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:15 AM (EzgxV)

471 No selective editing -- I just think the law is a loud fart if not obeyed or enforced. I don't think it'll be obeyed, and I don't think it will be successfully enforced even after politicians start getting regularly assassinated (which, sadly, I believe will happen), because any attempt at enforcement will result in targeting the enforcers.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:09 AM (EzgxV)

*****

Wow. No further comment on this topic to you from here.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:16 AM (YLidQ)

472 Gonna call it a night everybody. Thanks for the great chat about... wow, so many good topics. :-)

See you all tomorrow night hopefully.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 29, 2015 02:17 AM (ntObR)

473 Almost....

Posted by: the Barrel at December 29, 2015 02:18 AM (UsLZp)

474 Regardless, regs will be enforced by making examples out of those who do
not concede. We have seen this movie before, never ends well.
---
I remain in favor of humiliating government whenever possible. I think the PR price they pay is well worth a fine that will never be paid because no one in this economy has that kind of money lying around and no jury would stand for it.

They want to publish names and addresses of folks with drones?

Then we publish names and addresses of anyone involved trying to enforce this bullshit.

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:18 AM (ZbV+0)

475 469
You've apparently missed the part where I said people won't bother
registering because they don't know or are lazy. Which I backed up with a
discussion of people I know who laughed away the idea of registering
their drone because it's obviously silly.

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:06 AM (ZbV+0)



****



Possibly so, so let me try this one more time.



Government has been embarrased by UAV incicents. Govt. likes nothing
less being embarassed. So, regs are now in place, which are ridiculous
on their face and at their core.



Regardless, regs will be enforced by making examples out of those
who do not concede. We have seen this movie before, never ends well.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:14 AM (YLidQ)


A third of the quadcopters out there are homebuilt, a third are customized, and a third are products. Anyone who has built a homebuilt quadcopter can build another one.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:19 AM (EzgxV)

476 I remain in favor of humiliating government whenever possible. I think the PR price they pay is well worth a fine that will never be paid because no one in this economy has that kind of money lying around and no jury would stand for it.

They want to publish names and addresses of folks with drones?

Then we publish names and addresses of anyone involved trying to enforce this bullshit.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:18 AM (ZbV+0)

****

Wow. You really think there would just be a PR cost? Good luck with all of that. Let me know how it turns out for you.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:22 AM (YLidQ)

477 A third of the quadcopters out there are homebuilt, a third are
customized, and a third are products. Anyone who has built a homebuilt
quadcopter can build another one
---
And customize it as we've seen tonight, or the Thanksgiving flamethrower version.

Or as mentioned up thread, the chickenshit bucket version (which of course is a great improvement on the original tar and feather concept).

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:23 AM (ZbV+0)

478 A third of the quadcopters out there are homebuilt, a third are customized, and a third are products. Anyone who has built a homebuilt quadcopter can build another one.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:19 AM (EzgxV)

*****

I am aware of that, as I know how to build them from scratch.

What is your point?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:24 AM (YLidQ)

479 Wow. You really think there would just be a PR cost? Good luck with all of that. Let me know how it turns out for you.
---
Government is the one paying the PR cost.

Take a step back from your respect of government's capacity for a moment and picture them bankrupting a family out of sheer spite for a Christmas toy.

Right into the maw of a culture that has one half that can't get past how it feels about anything that's "unfair" and the other predispsoed to hating this government already (see also obamacare premiums).

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:28 AM (ZbV+0)

480 471
No selective editing -- I just think the law is a loud fart if not
obeyed or enforced. I don't think it'll be obeyed, and I don't think it
will be successfully enforced even after politicians start getting
regularly assassinated (which, sadly, I believe will happen), because
any attempt at enforcement will result in targeting the enforcers.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:09 AM (EzgxV)



*****



Wow. No further comment on this topic to you from here.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:16 AM (YLidQ)


*snort*

We're heading into a period of turbulence akin to the '60s. Am I supposed to pretend that MLK, JFK, Bobby Kennedy, and the others didn't happen? I believe that political assassination will become more prevalent over the next decade -- and for this common-sense observation, I get "Wow. No further comment on this topic to you from here." Way to go PC in the face of reality, champ.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:31 AM (EzgxV)

481 Take a step back from your respect of government's capacity for a moment and picture them bankrupting a family out of sheer spite for a Christmas toy.

Right into the maw of a culture that has one half that can't get past how it feels about anything that's "unfair" and the other predispsoed to hating this government already (see also obamacare premiums).
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:28 AM (ZbV+0

***

I'll leave you to deal with that fantasy, I'll hang here in reality.

BarryCare got in here somehow? Oh well, just reinforces my point.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:31 AM (YLidQ)

482 Restricting quadcopters, or "toy" UAV's in general is certainly a case of locking the barn after the horse has been stolen. There's millions of them out there, and millions for sale in stores all over, ranging from high-end hobby stores to dollar stores.


The FCC basically gave up trying to control the 11-meter CB radios. Enforcement proved to be useless. Maybe they still enforce flagrant violations of the CB ground rules, like kilowatt linears and suchlike. I sort of hope so. But you and I can go out an buy and use a 40-channel CB without any let or hindrance.


Perhaps that's how it will evolve with drones. Use a drone to annoy people, especially the "elite", and the G-men will be on your ass. Use it to photograph scenery or wildlife, and don't piss people off, and the Feds will never bat an eye.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 02:32 AM (UsLZp)

483 We're heading into a period of turbulence akin to the '60s. Am I supposed to pretend that MLK, JFK, Bobby Kennedy, and the others didn't happen? I believe that political assassination will become more prevalent over the next decade -- and for this common-sense observation, I get "Wow. No further comment on this topic to you from here." Way to go PC in the face of reality, champ.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:31 AM (EzgxV)

*****

I find your premises to be pretty whack Sport. All else flows from there. Have fun with your delusions. I want no part of them.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:34 AM (YLidQ)

484 476
I remain in favor of humiliating government whenever possible. I think
the PR price they pay is well worth a fine that will never be paid
because no one in this economy has that kind of money lying around and
no jury would stand for it.



They want to publish names and addresses of folks with drones?



Then we publish names and addresses of anyone involved trying to enforce this bullshit.

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:18 AM (ZbV+0)



****



Wow. You really think there would just be a PR cost? Good luck with all of that. Let me know how it turns out for you.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:22 AM (YLidQ)
476
I remain in favor of humiliating government whenever possible. I think
the PR price they pay is well worth a fine that will never be paid
because no one in this economy has that kind of money lying around and
no jury would stand for it.



They want to publish names and addresses of folks with drones?



Then we publish names and addresses of anyone involved trying to enforce this bullshit.

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:18 AM (ZbV+0)



****



Wow. You really think there would just be a PR cost? Good luck with all of that. Let me know how it turns out for you.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:22 AM (YLidQ)


So, you're advocating open war? You'd better hope it's just about PR cost.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:34 AM (EzgxV)

485 I'll leave you to deal with that fantasy, I'll hang here in reality.
---
What fantasy?

You said they want to make an example of someone. They can't do that without being very public about it. I think given the general mood right now, that backfires on them.

The fine is meaningless. At this point even if they find a way to make it stick, I suspect the rest of us would find a way to crowdfund it out of existence, just to make a counter example.

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:37 AM (ZbV+0)

486 478
A third of the quadcopters out there are homebuilt, a third are
customized, and a third are products. Anyone who has built a homebuilt
quadcopter can build another one.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:19 AM (EzgxV)



*****



I am aware of that, as I know how to build them from scratch.



What is your point?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:24 AM (YLidQ)


My point is they won't be registered. The people who bought them as toys won't register toys. The people who bought them with purpose won't register them 'cause laws don't apply to them. And the people who build 'em from scratch won't register them because the components of their quadcopter might be in a hexcopter next week.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:37 AM (EzgxV)

487 Well, I see it's reached a point where reasoned or moderate comments just get ignored, so I'm out for the night.


Don't break the furniture, or Ace will be pissed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2015 02:38 AM (UsLZp)

488 So, you're advocating open war? You'd better hope it's just about PR cost.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:34 AM (EzgxV)

*****

Please show me, very specifically, where that was ever advocated, Champ.

You really aren't very good at this. May wanna hang it up. Your call.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:38 AM (YLidQ)

489 Wow, morons exemplars of patience and good manners.
Tip of the hat gentlemen.
Good night.

Posted by: Ralph at December 29, 2015 02:41 AM (D/1P4)

490 My point is they won't be registered. The people who bought them as toys won't register toys. The people who bought them with purpose won't register them 'cause laws don't apply to them. And the people who build 'em from scratch won't register them because the components of their quadcopter might be in a hexcopter next week.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:37 AM (EzgxV)

****

You are amazingly ignorant of this topic you have for some reason chosen to pontificate about. You do know that, right?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:41 AM (YLidQ)

491 I find your premises to be pretty whack Sport.
---
congress has something like 8% approval. 3/4 of the country tell pollsters that government is the biggest threat to any of us around rather than global warming or obama's pet project ISIS. A plurality of gop voters are pushing a candidate solely on the hopes of fucking with the party and D.C. The federal reserves money printing games are at an end and they are desperately trying to get out of the way so they can pretend the deep depression they've deepened in their efforts to put it off isn't their fault when the bottom inevitably falls out of the markets.

If you think we've got all sweetness and light ahead of us, I think you're the one that's pretty whack.

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:44 AM (ZbV+0)

492 If you think we've got all sweetness and light ahead of us, I think you're the one that's pretty whack.
Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:44 AM (ZbV+0)

****

That first little bit you quoted was directed to someone else. As for the rest, meh.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:46 AM (YLidQ)

493 488
So, you're advocating open war? You'd better hope it's just about PR cost.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:34 AM (EzgxV)



*****



Please show me, very specifically, where that was ever advocated, Champ.



You really aren't very good at this. May wanna hang it up. Your call.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:38 AM (YLidQ)


I am predicting, based on best available data, what will happen despite all our best hopes otherwise; you are pitching this as advocacy. I am pointing out that refusing to allow for the possibility of such chaos clearly increases the odds of it coming to pass -- and, specifically, that attempting to gloss-over multiple causus belli as "PR" is de facto a call to open war. The problems won't go away if you try to paint them as PR and pretend they don't exist....they'll become wars.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:52 AM (EzgxV)

494 The problems won't go away if you try to paint them as PR and pretend they don't exist....they'll become wars.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:52 AM (EzgxV)

****

So, no evidence of a call for war on my part, despite your claim to the contrary. Got it. Thank you.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:54 AM (YLidQ)

495 That first little bit you quoted was directed to someone else. As for the rest, meh.
---
Well, okay, I retract the whack comment.

I don't think cooth was advocating, but suggesting that people are likely to act in chaotic times as they have in other chaotic times because human nature has not improved. I'm not seeing why you think that's unlikely (if that's your position).

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:54 AM (ZbV+0)

496 492
If you think we've got all sweetness and light ahead of us, I think you're the one that's pretty whack.

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:44 AM (ZbV+0)



****



That first little bit you quoted was directed to someone else. As for the rest, meh.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:46 AM (YLidQ)
492
If you think we've got all sweetness and light ahead of us, I think you're the one that's pretty whack.

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:44 AM (ZbV+0)



****



That first little bit you quoted was directed to someone else. As for the rest, meh.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:46 AM (YLidQ)


I think Methos is talking sense and you're talking nonsense, for what it's worth.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:54 AM (EzgxV)

497 Cooth, do you have any idea why you're getting doubles when you quote us in your comments?

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:58 AM (ZbV+0)

498 494
The problems won't go away if you try to paint them as PR and pretend they don't exist....they'll become wars.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:52 AM (EzgxV)



****



So, no evidence of a call for war on my part, despite your claim to the contrary. Got it. Thank you.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:54 AM (YLidQ)


You're denying the alternatives to wars. Which is the sort of spacey fuzzy feel-good that ends up with a lot of dead people. The Russians had a whole lot of alternatives with the Kulaks that they denied; the Maoists had a whole lot of alternatives with the intellectuals that they denied. Stalin and Mao were both peace-loving people that had no choice.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:58 AM (EzgxV)

499 I think Methos is talking sense and you're talking nonsense, for what it's worth.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:54 AM (EzgxV)

****

Well, Bless your heart, of course you do!

Now, about all that talk about my hobby you are so certain about at 490.....thoughts?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:00 AM (YLidQ)

500 497
Cooth, do you have any idea why you're getting doubles when you quote us in your comments?


Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 02:58 AM (ZbV+0)


I have some ideas, but I haven't nailed 'em down yet or they wouldn't be happening. And, yes, I'm aware.

Thank you for the gracious way of asking.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:01 AM (EzgxV)

501 Is clock boy still in Quatar? Or, did his parents let him come home?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 29, 2015 03:01 AM (iQIUe)

502 499
I think Methos is talking sense and you're talking nonsense, for what it's worth.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:54 AM (EzgxV)



****



Well, Bless your heart, of course you do!



Now, about all that talk about my hobby you are so certain about at 490.....thoughts?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:00 AM (YLidQ)
499
I think Methos is talking sense and you're talking nonsense, for what it's worth.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:54 AM (EzgxV)



****



Well, Bless your heart, of course you do!



Now, about all that talk about my hobby you are so certain about at 490.....thoughts?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:00 AM (YLidQ)


Are you registering?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:02 AM (EzgxV)

503 You're denying the alternatives to wars. Which is the sort of spacey fuzzy feel-good that ends up with a lot of dead people. The Russians had a whole lot of alternatives with the Kulaks that they denied; the Maoists had a whole lot of alternatives with the intellectuals that they denied. Stalin and Mao were both peace-loving people that had no choice.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:58 AM (EzgxV)

****

You stated I was calling for war. I refuted, with evidence. Why is this so hard for you?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:03 AM (YLidQ)

504 Are you registering?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:02 AM (EzgxV)

****

Not gonna play that. You answer my 490 first.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:04 AM (YLidQ)

505 So, SSDD, huh?

Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 03:07 AM (mUsVF)

506 Anything interesting in the comments tonight so far?

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 29, 2015 03:09 AM (Z8xbi)

507 So, SSDD, huh?
Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 03:07 AM (mUsVF)

*****

Not quite, as this time I'm actually here and responding, as opposed to a Sunday afternoon Ace thread where you bravely let it all hang out...in my absence.

Real profile in balls there....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:10 AM (YLidQ)

508 So, SSDD, huh?
---
Technically no.

It's night. And time for sleep. Me, anyway.

Posted by: Methos at December 29, 2015 03:15 AM (ZbV+0)

509 503
You're denying the alternatives to wars. Which is the sort of spacey
fuzzy feel-good that ends up with a lot of dead people. The Russians had
a whole lot of alternatives with the Kulaks that they denied; the
Maoists had a whole lot of alternatives with the intellectuals that they
denied. Stalin and Mao were both peace-loving people that had no
choice.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:58 AM (EzgxV)



****



You stated I was calling for war. I refuted, with evidence. Why is this so hard for you?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:03 AM (YLidQ)


Let me put this to you straight and clear -- read the Declaration of Independence. It puts forth the proposition that continual slights might add up to revolutionary change, especially if there are no mechanisms to rectify the slights short of revolution.

I postulated that slights exist, and said there were still remedies short of outright war -- and you said those remedies were inconsequential PR. If you agree the slights exist (and I have seen no argument on that point) and you state that remedies are inconsequential, then you argue for war.

Mind you, I never said that you directly advocated for war -- I stated that your rejection of alternatives was tantamount to a declaration of war.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:16 AM (EzgxV)

510 Anyway, this has been fun and educational. Gots ta go. You boys behave and try not to quip too much behind the back, kay?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:16 AM (YLidQ)

511 New York City Will Fine You $250,000 For "Misgendering" A Transsexual

http://preview.tinyurl.com/pmbflu9

Surprised this story hasn't already been noted on the HQ yet...

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 29, 2015 03:19 AM (Z8xbi)

512 Mind you, I never said that you directly advocated for war -- I stated that your rejection of alternatives was tantamount to a declaration of war.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:16 AM (EzgxV)


So, you're advocating open war? You'd better hope it's just about PR cost.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 02:34 AM (EzgxV)

****

Sure. Go with that denial.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:19 AM (YLidQ)

513 504
Are you registering?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:02 AM (EzgxV)



****



Not gonna play that. You answer my 490 first.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:04 AM (YLidQ)


Of all the stupid places to point....
490: "You are amazingly ignorant of this topic you have for some reason chosen to pontificate about. You do know that, right?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:41 AM (YLidQ)"
OK -- here's your answer for 490 -- "no, I think I'm pretty much up-to-speed on the topic, thanks."
So, you registering?




Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:21 AM (EzgxV)

514 505
So, SSDD, huh?

Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 03:07 AM (mUsVF)


To a certain extent.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:23 AM (EzgxV)

515 Of all the stupid places to point....
490: "You are amazingly ignorant of this topic you have for some reason chosen to pontificate about. You do know that, right?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:41 AM (YLidQ)"
OK -- here's your answer for 490 -- "no, I think I'm pretty much up-to-speed on the topic, thanks."
So, you registering?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:21 AM (EzgxV)

***

Gonna register them just as much as my guns are registered.

Looking forward to future responses. Based on your answers and slap down returns tonight, you may wanna hold onto that stupid tag for yourself.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:26 AM (YLidQ)

516 So, Chi, how goes with you and Tucker -- being as you're getting the weather that we pay exorbitant taxes and put up with leftie assholes to enjoy?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:28 AM (EzgxV)

517 Surprised this story hasn't already been noted on the HQ yet...
Posted by: The Political Hat
--------------------
Me too, Hat. I read the article yesterday, and was waiting for ace to go off on a good rant.

Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 03:30 AM (mUsVF)

518 Surprised this story hasn't already been noted on the HQ yet...
Posted by: The Political Hat
--------------------
Me too, Hat. I read the article yesterday, and was waiting for ace to go off on a good rant.
Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 03:30 AM (mUsVF)


Doesn't Ace live in NYC? Perhaps he's already being threatened with fines...

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 29, 2015 03:32 AM (Z8xbi)

519 "If you like to gamble, I tell you I'm your man
You win some, lose some, it's all the same to me."

Lemmy's words, Ace's conceit. Lemmy died; Ace's conceit, well, it's still a conceit.

Posted by: rho at December 29, 2015 03:33 AM (BvffJ)

520 515
Of all the stupid places to point....

490: "You are amazingly ignorant of this topic you have for some reason chosen to pontificate about. You do know that, right?



Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:41 AM (YLidQ)"

OK -- here's your answer for 490 -- "no, I think I'm pretty much up-to-speed on the topic, thanks."

So, you registering?



Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:21 AM (EzgxV)



***



Gonna register them just as much as my guns are registered.



Looking forward to future responses. Based on your answers and slap
down returns tonight, you may wanna hold onto that stupid tag for
yourself.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 03:26 AM (YLidQ)


The fundamental question is whether drone regulation is going to go anywhere. Way back @413, it appeared that you believed that it might not.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 29, 2015 03:37 AM (EzgxV)

521 Not too bad, Cth. Like a hair in a biscuit, y'know?
It was weird to wear shorts on Christmas, though.

And, at least with your high taxes & lefties, you get the benefit of outrages real estate values. I, on the other hand have watched value drop for years running now. And our taxes ain't low. Heck - prepared food tax here is equal to NYC. I forget what the rate per $100 is on real estate, but it's stupid high.


Hat, yep, my Understanding is that ace is up there. Never even thought about him getting hassled already... good point.

Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 03:41 AM (mUsVF)

522 Although, the fines seem to be aimed at property owners. I don't know exactly who they're targeting, but I'm not sure how that would apply to an opinion writer...

Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 03:47 AM (mUsVF)

523 Although, the fines seem to be aimed at property owners. I don't know exactly who they're targeting, but I'm not sure how that would apply to an opinion writer...

Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 03:47 AM (mUsVF)


That's just the foot in the door.

Absolute imposition of their Newthink will be pushed to the extent they can get away with it... and then they'll push some more.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 29, 2015 03:56 AM (Z8xbi)

524 I know. They'll probably start with landlorda, retailers, restaurants, etc. Then move on to any and everyone that doesn't jive with the PC party line.

Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 03:57 AM (mUsVF)

525 but I'm not sure how that would apply to an opinion writer...
Posted by: Chi at December 29, 2015 03:47 AM (mUsVF)



..... yet.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at December 29, 2015 04:19 AM (WWdgA)

526 Please show me, very specifically, where that was ever advocated, Champ.
You really aren't very good at this. May wanna hang it up. Your call.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 29, 2015 02:38 AM (YLidQ)


I gotta ask, MWNP, are you by chance taking asshole pills? Because you seem to be having on-going problems getting along with other commenters over what should be fairly non-acrimonious discussion topics.

Posted by: Maetenloch at December 29, 2015 04:20 AM (wqVD1)

527 Surprised this story hasn't already been noted on the HQ yet...
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 29, 2015 03:19 AM (Z8xbi)

I said something couple days ago after seeing it on Drudge.

It only applies in certain specific situations and not for the use in general public.

I think it has to do with landlords and housing agreements/leases/contracts and such where the parties are referred to by pronouns in the text.

It's just penny ante bullshit that is one more reason for any sane person to leave the east coast.

I say build a wall at the Delaware gap and all along the Jersey/PA border over along Jersey's N. border to the Hudson and then all along the Hudson and include Albany on the east side of the wall.

That should do it. Keep all the guidos and freaks and other assorted maniacs on the other side and let them work it out.

And I used to live along the CT coast so I know how and how much it has changed in just a few short years.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 04:27 AM (Xo1Rt)

528 It pouring outside, will it ever clear up, this is what Seattle must be like
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at December 29, 2015 04:42 AM (C1Suc)

529 Umbrellas and galoshes, my good man!

Posted by: Adriane the TV Critic ... at December 29, 2015 04:49 AM (AoK0a)

530 528 Its not bad weather, you do not have the right clothing.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 29, 2015 04:51 AM (u82oZ)

531 The bit that has me upset is the entire voter registration database being open on the net. They don't even know how it got there? Really?
Add to it Kentucky (thanks Rand) is doing a rep caucus in march, dem primary not till may.

Posted by: FCF at December 29, 2015 05:03 AM (kejii)

532 Skip my suggestion is find a rowboat lol. I could paddleboard in my backyard

Posted by: FCF at December 29, 2015 05:06 AM (kejii)

533 Oy.

Stay dry-ish over there.

Posted by: Adriane the TV Critic ... at December 29, 2015 05:10 AM (AoK0a)

534 is this the willow treatment? So Cruel lol

Posted by: FCF at December 29, 2015 05:10 AM (kejii)

535 Re: homemade submachine guns.

Fuck that shit. You can buy parts kits that contain almost complete Uzis, Mac-10s, or almost anything else your heart desires. Then, you can find an "unfinished" receiver for said weapon. These things are usually three or four pieces of stamped steel that have to be welded together.

For $200, you can buy a cheap-ass welding rig at Harbor Freight.

Once you get your receiver in the mail, then get some similar types of stamped steel and practice welding them together until you are satisfied that you can put your receiver together without screwing it up. If you are really paranoid, sign up for a welding class at the local community college.

Then, weld yourself up a submachine gun receiver, and install factory parts. Voila, instant automatic weapon.

As someone above noted, tell no one you are doing this, it is a serious federal felony to do so.

Me? I've never done any of this, I have just found the parts online and seen someone weld up a (legal) semi-auto Mac-10 receiver. This is strictly an intellectual exercise, I would never actually encourage anyone to break the law.

Posted by: David, infamous sockpuppet at December 29, 2015 05:13 AM (1TUV/)

536 Lemmy Kilmister dead at 70.

True story: Hawkwind hired him as a bassist even though he did not actually know how to play the bass at that time, they hired him because he did the right drugs.

Insert shameless Ace of Spades tie-in HERE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iwC2QljLn4

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 29, 2015 05:21 AM (HMt16)

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 29, 2015 05:23 AM (HMt16)

537 Time to microagression the hay ...

Everybody stay safe.

Posted by: Adriane the TV Critic ... at December 29, 2015 05:26 AM (AoK0a)

538 Rainy andwindy. I can't believe you carbon terrorists are forcing me to be exposed to this crap when I go outside.

Posted by: Al Gore at December 29, 2015 05:27 AM (sv9eA)

539 Spent all night listening to an ice storm rattling the windowpanes. Thought it was going to be worse out there, but the streets are fine. Parking lot's another matter.

Tis the season for the po-po to start enforcing the no parking on the streets overnight rule in my 'hood, so the plows can get through. I'm watching from my window as 3 cars get ticketed right now.

And the asshole cop is completely blocking the street too. No reason whatsoever he can't park at the curb behind the cars he's ticketing. But just because he can, he's making cars go all the way around the block while he sits there in the middle of the street.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 29, 2015 05:28 AM (HMt16)

540 Our solution to subtexts we dislike is not to teach people to think critically about what they read, but to try to brainwash them using different subtexts.

Posted by: Salon at December 29, 2015 05:31 AM (sv9eA)

541 All this gummint tyranny is just practice for when hellary takes over. And she is just practice for when islam takes over. Now that will be real tyranny. Don't fret over it though. That will be true diversity, yet true unity. An enigma, you say?

Posted by: Eromero at December 29, 2015 05:41 AM (b+df9)

542 What a different, artless collection.

a life:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUDje4cTev0

Posted by: somejoe at December 29, 2015 05:54 AM (vlgjM)

543 Ace of Spades by Motorhead: That's a song I have attempted to play for guitar, and played for bass on Rocksmith.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 29, 2015 06:06 AM (VdICR)

544 It makes sense that the NBA would be for gun control. Super athletic giants don't need guns for self defense.

Posted by: zmdavid at December 29, 2015 06:08 AM (xqRaG)

545 It will be fun to watch as useful idiot elitist liberals are overcome by the Muzzies. They inflict their 'help' on those poor, underprivileged Muslims in order to feel better about themselves. But the Muslims see through that and hence are ungrateful, as VDH observed. So you end up with cases like Farook and SBD.

Coates (though talking about blacks) was right. They must be left to themselves, in their own lands. If you try to 'help' those who don't want it, all you do is wound their dignity, and you'll reap their resentment instead of their gratitude.

Liberals must accept the fact that some situations are unfixable and containment is all you can hope for.

Posted by: Salon at December 29, 2015 06:11 AM (sv9eA)

546 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 29, 2015 06:20 AM (KCxzN)

547 The NBA supporters think that gun control means getting permits for the guns they drive around with.

https://youtu.be/-BSlqZYtWzQ?t=15m5s

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 29, 2015 06:21 AM (VdICR)

548 * peeks in *

Morning, Glories! Early morning. To whoever's here.

Woke up, and my agitated mind would not let me go back to sleep despite weariness of body.

Have the flame wars passed? (I presume there were flame wars.) Is it safe for morning people?

Posted by: mindful webworker - mindful webworker - awake, more or less at December 29, 2015 06:23 AM (4Hf9E)

549 Morning, AltonJackson, BourbonChicken.

How in the world did I manage to get my nic doubled in that last comment? Reminds me of "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman."

* smacks side of computer *

Posted by: mindful webworker - what th'?? at December 29, 2015 06:25 AM (4Hf9E)

550 Morning all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 29, 2015 06:27 AM (gf8BH)

551 Woke up, and my agitated mind would not let me go back to sleep despite weariness of body.

Posted by: mindful webworker


My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.

Flame wars were between MWNP and cooth about drones. It seems to have abated.

Posted by: Sen John Blutarsky at December 29, 2015 06:34 AM (sv9eA)

552 550 Nevergiveup

Top of the morning to you! Glad to see the N showed up in your nic again

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 29, 2015 06:34 AM (u82oZ)

553 The Star Trek trailer looks like Fast and Furious. It begs the question has the franchise lost it's roots? It was always in danger of losing it. The roots are Horatio Hornblower or miniskirts, depending who you ask.

I will trust in Simon Pegg.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 29, 2015 06:35 AM (VdICR)

554 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 29, 2015 06:35 AM (u82oZ)

555 Top of the morning to you! Glad to see the N showed up in your nic again
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 29, 2015 06:34 AM (u82oZ)

Well ya know at my age, ya get up every morning hoping all the parts are still on and working

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 29, 2015 06:40 AM (gf8BH)

556 Hey, look, it's the morning thre.... oh, no, no, sorry, I think I must've been drifting off and dreaming...

* heads to kitchen to make coffee *

Posted by: mindful webworker - pre-caffeinated at December 29, 2015 06:43 AM (4Hf9E)

557 Scott Adams thinks that Hilary is having undisclosed health issues based on small clues on video. I am of mixed opinion about him saying this in public.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 29, 2015 06:43 AM (VdICR)

558
Scott Adams thinks that Hilary is having undisclosed health issues based on small clues on video. I am of mixed opinion about him saying this in public.


As if it matters. She could be shitting in her diapers and the DNC would still be pimping her. There's no way they're going to let the human howler monkey anywhere near the White House.

The people who should be worried are Bill and Chelsea. If Scankles is tied or down in the polls as the election draws near, look for Bill to have a heart attack or Chelsea a miscarriage.

Posted by: Liberace at December 29, 2015 06:49 AM (X6fMO)

559
Sorry. Fabulous sock off.

I need some tea.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 06:49 AM (X6fMO)

560 555 Nevergiveup

Ya young whippersnapper.

I have a Service Dress Blue uniform & a dress sword, with knot, older than you.

Now go and do good.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 29, 2015 06:50 AM (u82oZ)

561 Any Computer, and I use the term with great affection, Geeks out there?

How many page, or hard faults, would be considered, "too many" ?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and Unimproved. at December 29, 2015 06:51 AM (WVsWD)

562 ...Hilary is having undisclosed health issues......

Is chronic lying a health issue?

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at December 29, 2015 06:51 AM (jN+3o)

563 @557 he shouldn't toy with my hopes that way. Still, it needn't be a showstopper. FDR and JFK both had serious health issues they concealed from the public.

Posted by: Sen John Blutarsky at December 29, 2015 06:52 AM (sv9eA)

564 FDR and JFK both had serious health issues.........

Turns out Vince Foster had one too.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at December 29, 2015 06:58 AM (jN+3o)

565 NaCly Dog: Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Pretty sure I've never mentioned it, but... I like that a lot.

Posted by: mindful webworker - semi-conscious citizen at December 29, 2015 06:58 AM (4Hf9E)

566 >>> There's no way they're going to let the human howler monkey anywhere near the White House.

Could you please be more specific?

Posted by: fluffy at December 29, 2015 06:58 AM (AfsKp)

567 FDR and JFK both had serious health issues they concealed from the public.

Posted by: Sen John Blutarsky at December 29, 2015 06:52 AM


Yes, and their butt-boys in the media helped them keep said issues quiet.

Also, no Intarwebz in those days.

If a Leading Republican had any "health issues" -- beyond Terminal Stupidity, that is -- everything from blood tests to images from the proctoscope would be front-page stuff.

Posted by: Mr Scribbler at December 29, 2015 06:59 AM (z/vax)

568 .Hilary is having undisclosed health issues......

Is chronic lying a health issue?

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Or megalomania?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 29, 2015 07:00 AM (Nwg0u)

569 >>>>Scott Adams thinks that Hilary is having undisclosed health issues based
on small clues on video. I am of mixed opinion about him saying this
in public.
.
.
.I think he is correct in his opinion. She does act like someone who is suffering from a serious health issue. From the constant disappearances while she is campaigning to the frequent awkward pauses in responding to questions, something is going on and it just isn't because she is getting old.

Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at December 29, 2015 07:01 AM (iONHu)

570 I like my coffee freshly-ground.
I like my coffee hot.
I dislike when my cup gets cold,
That's why I make a pot.

I only have a smallish cup,
And then go for some more.
Although it makes for many trips,
Back to the pot to pour.

-Burma Shape

Posted by: mindful webworker - snapping fingers at December 29, 2015 07:04 AM (4Hf9E)

571 The NBA supporters think that gun control means getting permits for the guns they drive around with.

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Shouldn't Big Gun Control get Aaron Hernandez and the NFL on board, too?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 29, 2015 07:04 AM (Nwg0u)

572 565 mindful webworker - semi-conscious citizen

Thanks. Just doing my best to fill the files of our nations finest secret policemen.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 29, 2015 07:19 AM (u82oZ)

573 Is the blog broke, or is everyone waiting on the EMT?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2015 07:21 AM (fu1JC)

574 Any Computer, and I use the term with great affection, Geeks out there?

How many page, or hard faults, would be considered, "too many" ?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and Unimproved. at December 29, 2015 06:51 AM (WVsWD)

Server or PC? Usually means there isn't enough RAM.

Posted by: WOPR at December 29, 2015 07:22 AM (LTDSy)

575 Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog


*hic* Once I'm elected, ain't no one gonna be smilin but me, HAHAHA!!! *hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 29, 2015 07:24 AM (sv9eA)

576
Is chronic lying a health issue?

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at December 29, 2015 06:51 AM (jN+3o)
______________________________

Shut your whore mouth....

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 29, 2015 07:28 AM (eCASW)

577 >>>559 Sorry. Fabulous sock off.
I need some tea.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 06:49 AM (X6fMO)

Hey! Since you are the old movie expert I thought I would mention that I watched high society on Netflix one day and the next day rewatched the Philadelphia story and went hey! Wait a minute...is this the same story? Yep. Weird.

Posted by: Lea at December 29, 2015 07:29 AM (vmMMi)

578 Great day in the morning, now we have metrosexual lions.

http://tinyurl.com/nr4h2ee

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 29, 2015 07:32 AM (Nwg0u)

579 It is my PC. I got it solved.

Operators Head Space Error.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and Unimproved. at December 29, 2015 07:36 AM (WVsWD)

580 573
Is the blog broke, or is everyone waiting on the EMT?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2015 07:21 AM (fu1JC)

I love this place....but sometimes it seems to be run like some government agency. (ducks)

Posted by: BignJames at December 29, 2015 07:38 AM (j7iSn)

581
There's no way they're going to let the human howler monkey anywhere near the White House.



Could you please be more specific?Posted by: fluffy at December 29, 2015 06:58 AM (AfsKp)
Crazy old Bernie. I pissed someone off over the holidays by calling him that. "He just shits in his hands and throws it at the one-percent."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 07:39 AM (X6fMO)

582 The Great White Snark: Great day in the morning, now we have metrosexual lions.
http://tinyurl.com/nr4h2ee


"Gender fluid" my Aunt Fanny! Pi$$ on language fiends.

"...Researchers suspect Mmamoriri developed these typically masculine traits in order to protect her pride against other lions...."

Describes very woman who had to "man up" to protect her brood when her man died or disappeared untimely. God bless 'em.

Posted by: mindful webworker - proud mamas at December 29, 2015 07:40 AM (4Hf9E)

583 I see that the Afflenza Kid and Ma Enabler were arrested in Mexico. I recommend a lengthy treatment of steel bar and concrete intervention for each of them.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 29, 2015 07:40 AM (Nwg0u)

584 I meant "Describes every woman who..."

Posted by: mindful webworker - proud mamas at December 29, 2015 07:41 AM (4Hf9E)

585 Hey! Since you are the old movie expert I thought I would mention that I watched high society on Netflix one day and the next day rewatched the Philadelphia story and went hey! Wait a minute...is this the same story? Yep. Weird. Posted by: Lea at December 29, 2015 07:29 AM (vmMMi)Yes, they are the same. First was the play, then the movie (which I've never cared for, simply because I can't stand Katharine Hepburn) and then High Society. Sinatra was very excited about doing the movie - though I think he's miscast - because he wanted to work with his idol, Bing, and "Well, Did You Evah?" is just beautifully done, even though director Charles Walters really wasn't much of a choreographer. The film writer Jeanine Basinger talks about the song as a pure example of "star power:" the piece was very carefully rehearsed and blocked, but Bing and Frank make it look as though they're just improvising on the spot.Frank did end up disappointed by the movie, simply because he admired Bing, who, as usual, was very cool and aloof once the cameras stopped turning; in fact, I recently read that, after Crosby's death, Bob Hope admitted, "I never liked Bing Crosby; he was a real son of a bitch."I could be wrong, but I don't think Frank and Bing worked together again until Robin and the 7 Hoods in 1964.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 07:46 AM (X6fMO)

586 Sorry about that. My work computer really screws up formatting.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 07:47 AM (X6fMO)

587 "...Researchers suspect Mmamoriri developed these typically masculine traits in order to protect her pride against other lions...."


If a lioness can grow a mane and deeper-sounding vocal cords by sheer willpower, as the article suggests, then surely transgenders should be able to grow boobies/external genitalia as they wish without the aid of surgeons.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 29, 2015 07:49 AM (bZ7mE)

588 >>>Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at Decem

Thanks! I enjoy the background information.

I love the Philadelphia story, because I enjoy Cary grant but also jimmy Stewart is really great in it. (I was having a Cary grant marathon Sunday)

Posted by: Lea at December 29, 2015 07:52 AM (vmMMi)

589 High society just sort of auto started after I watched white Christmas. The music was fun, but I still prefer the other.

Posted by: Lea at December 29, 2015 07:53 AM (vmMMi)

590 If a lioness can grow a mane and deeper-sounding vocal cords by sheer willpower, as the article suggests, then surely transgenders should be able to grow boobies/external genitalia as they wish without the aid of surgeons.

-
So there's hope for Paul Ryano yet?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 29, 2015 07:54 AM (Nwg0u)

591 Bernie Sanders: I would hate the 1% too, if I became a senator and amazingly that wasn't enough to get me into the 1% club.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 29, 2015 07:59 AM (VdICR)

592 I should've willed myself to become lioness. Surely that sweet Dr. Palmer is too chivalrous to shoot a lady.

Posted by: Cecile the lion at December 29, 2015 08:00 AM (sv9eA)

593 Grey Fox: If a lioness can grow a mane and deeper-sounding vocal cords by sheer willpower, as the article suggests, then surely transgenders should be able to grow boobies/external genitalia as they wish without the aid of surgeons.

Not to throw a wet blanket on your funneh, but... methinx there may be a touch of difference between alteration in voice and hair color and those rather heavier alterations!!

Regarding the mane color changes: We once had a semi-feral momcat drop on us a litter of kittens that included three white ones. We could only tell them apart because one had a small grey streak on the left of her head, the other the same but on the right, and the third had none.

After two of them died, including the no-streak cat, the remaining one lost her gray streak. No longer a reason for it, we supposed.

*sigh* I miss all three of those long-gone little girls.

Posted by: mindful webworker - kitteh power activate! at December 29, 2015 08:01 AM (4Hf9E)

594 Wow, it's past 8 and no morning thread yet. Wha happen!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 29, 2015 08:01 AM (B8JRQ)

595 Seriously, it should be time for the art thread.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 29, 2015 08:02 AM (iQIUe)

596 Nation of Islam Looney says Allah sent tornadoes to Texas because Chicago cop accidentally shot grandmother. I'd say Allah's aim was a little off.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 29, 2015 08:04 AM (Nwg0u)

597 It smells like sex in here.

Posted by: Mister Christopher (in Atlanta!) at December 29, 2015 08:05 AM (SLJ40)

598 Would Mmamoriri marry me? Then I could lead a normal life without anyone finding out.

Posted by: gay lion at December 29, 2015 08:06 AM (sv9eA)

599 There's four invisible Amazons huddled in front of Bernie. He's grabbing one boob after another.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 29, 2015 08:06 AM (VdICR)

600 simply because I can't stand Katharine Hepburn

Good. I'm not the only only one.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at December 29, 2015 08:07 AM (WWdgA)

601 methinx there may be a touch of difference between alteration in voice and hair color and those rather heavier alterations!!

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Life will find a way.

- Dr. Ian Malcolm

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 29, 2015 08:07 AM (Nwg0u)

602 Not to throw a wet blanket on your funneh, but... methinx there may be a touch of difference between alteration in voice and hair color and those rather heavier alterations!!


My point is that physiological changes have to have some sort of physical cause - probably hormonal in her case - not just willpower and her part.

What I was trying to do was draw attention to the sheer stupidity of referring to a female lion as identifying as male or "genderfluid" and implying that her mane and deeper roar were a result of a conscious decision on her part.

Regarding your kitten, I don't know about cats but many members of my family have changed from being very blonde as infants and toddlers to medium-dark brown by the time they hit puberty.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 29, 2015 08:09 AM (bZ7mE)

603 *Brooklyn accent*
They're bouncy enough for a D cup, but perky enough for a B.

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at December 29, 2015 08:09 AM (VdICR)

604 What's this? No EMT or fresh hell?

Indeed, #WASTF.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 29, 2015 08:09 AM (LUgeY)

605 Seriously, it should be time for the art thread.

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Art is dead.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 29, 2015 08:10 AM (Nwg0u)

606 What's this? No EMT or fresh hell?

All our hell is warmed over.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value. at December 29, 2015 08:11 AM (rwI+c)

607 only only.

If only, I could sleep.


Coffee.....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at December 29, 2015 08:11 AM (WWdgA)

608 Good. I'm not the only only one.


Me too. Can't stand her voice or her attempts at "acting."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 29, 2015 08:11 AM (LUgeY)

609 Nation of Islam Looney says Allah sent tornadoes to Texas because Chicago cop accidentally shot grandmother.

Did Allah send the Nation of Islam to kill Malcolm X?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 29, 2015 08:11 AM (659DL)

610 Rain and sleet here in northern NJ, think I'll take a ppt day.

Gotta use the rest or I lose them.

I know a chick who is a school teacher and has accumulated months of ppt time and will probably cash them out when she retires.

I alway tell her your welcome, she always gets mad.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 29, 2015 08:11 AM (WVvzl)

611 Page faults just mean that the memory page desired is not available and the os has to go to disc to get it.

If there's a lot then

A) too many programs running,

B) not enough memory

C) a program is being stupid and refreshing itself constantly

(firefox does this for some reason and I've found out that it means nothing. However over time this will cause some slowdowns here and there so best to not leave firefox running unless you're using it)

There's really no definition of what is too many. It is what it is. They should have used a different name. the "fault" part is scary.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 08:13 AM (Xo1Rt)

612 I tried watching "The Lion in Winter" on Sunday, and just couldn't. It was like hours of your medieval dysfunctional royal family screeching and bitching at each other -like "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?" set in a castle - and the dialog wasn't even clever.

Before that, "Dr. Zhivago" was on. Now that movie is one that has stood up to the test of time.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at December 29, 2015 08:13 AM (P8951)

613
I don't think this will format, but I'll tell you a quick Kate Hepburn story: she was working on a film directed by Herman Mankiewicz (I'm too lazy to look it up), and felt - stuck-up prima donna that she was - that he wasn't giving her the respect she deserved. So when the last day of filming was announced, she kept quiet until the last "cut!" was called, then marched up to Mank.

"Am I finished?" she asked.

"Sure, Kate," the director responded. "We're all done."

"I mean it - no more close-ups, no inset shots, no nothing? You absolutely do not need me for anything else?"

"Not at all,"
Mank answered. "You're free to go."

"Good,"
Hepburn snarled, "because I want to leave you with this."

And she spat in Mankiewicz' face.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 08:14 AM (X6fMO)

614 Mornin'! Off to make the coffee.

Posted by: Mainah at December 29, 2015 08:14 AM (659DL)

615 I've got some fresh hell for you via Drudge. They've discovered a new form of cancer that's contagious.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 29, 2015 08:15 AM (Nwg0u)

616 @593 But it wasn't a change in hair color. They seem to imply thar the lioness actually grew a mane in response to psychological pressure. And you typically can't deepen a voice without additional hormones. Finally, your cats could tell each other apart without their markings, it's doubtful they'd be aware that it would be more convenient to you if they had distinctive markings.

Posted by: Cecil at December 29, 2015 08:16 AM (sv9eA)

617 Yeah, Hepburn always looked to me like a snobby aristocrat who thought their shit didn't stink.

What's now called a "strong" woman.

(read: a high maintenance biyatch barely worth knowing and trouble every minute.)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 08:16 AM (Xo1Rt)

618 And she spat in Mankiewicz' face.

I'm not surprised. TMC had one of her movies on last week where she played some brainy orifice worker against Spencer Tracy.

Yuck. That movie defied at least two laws of physics: it both blew and sucked at the same time.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 29, 2015 08:17 AM (LUgeY)

619 CNN: Chicago: King Louie is on the med, Long Live the Rapper King Louie

Posted by: Colin at December 29, 2015 08:17 AM (T3Tpd)

620 and the dialog wasn't even clever.

Oh, there are some golden moments:

"You can't have the Vexen, it's mine."

"What makes it yours?"

"It has my troops all over it."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 29, 2015 08:18 AM (659DL)

621 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 08:14 AM (X6fMO

What a charmer. I am also not a Hepburn fan. She had an affair with a married man for decades and that supposedly made her a big feminist icon?

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at December 29, 2015 08:19 AM (P8951)

622
Now there's another Hepburn story which I like: she was working on a film directed by Howard Hawks - who didn't like her - and while he was ready to start a scene, she was off the set chatting with people. Hawks just sat down and waited. Finally, Hepburn realized she was the only one talking and turned to Hawks. "What's going on?"

"I'm just waiting for the parrot to finish squawking,"
the director answered.

A furious Hepburn marched over to him. "Listen, Howard," she said, waving an arm around the set, "these people are my friends. If you treat me like that, you might find some bad things happening to you."

Hawks looked at her for a long moment, then raised his eyes to the electricians above the set, working their heavy lights. "Henry," he called to one of them, "if you had the choice between dropping that light on me or on Miss Hepburn, who would you choose?"

The electrician didn't hesitate a moment. "Stand aside, Mr. Hawks!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 08:19 AM (X6fMO)

623 You want a picture of some trees.
You'd settle for any picture.
You get nothing, and like it.

Posted by: Judge Smedd at December 29, 2015 08:20 AM (KSP4V)

624 italics off

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 08:21 AM (X6fMO)

625 Do they hate Katharine Hepburn in teh Barrel?

Posted by: Mr Scribbler at December 29, 2015 08:21 AM (z/vax)

626 612 I tried watching "The Lion in Winter" on Sunday, and just couldn't. It was like hours of your medieval dysfunctional royal family screeching and bitching at each other -like "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?" set in a castle - and the dialog wasn't even clever.

Yep. Shut it off with an hour left.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at December 29, 2015 08:21 AM (WWdgA)

627 Following decades of neglect, Russian naval forces are being modernized with advanced submarines and increasingly lethal ballistic and cruise missiles, according to a report by the Office of Naval Intelligence.

The naval buildup includes three new classes of advanced submarines and several new types of warships that the report warns will provide a flexible platform for Russia to demonstrate offensive capability, threaten neighbors, project power regionally, and advance President Putins stated goal of returning Russia to clear great power status.

And so is China

And fredo is devastating our Military

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 29, 2015 08:23 AM (gf8BH)

628 The majority of 20th century movie idols were living lies.

And people bought the lie and tried to emulate it.

One of the major things wrong with putting imaginary events up for the masses to see. It effects the brain. Some become what they see on the screen (big or TV) and Western Civ has paid the price. Only recently as a majority learn that it does effect people especially children have people started to self censor what they see and what they allow their children to see.

It's why the media will put a blanket on stuff they don't want known and blare to the rooftops the stuff they want to have happen.

Still too many who don't understand how they're being brain washed. And they're the ones who need to know it the most.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 08:24 AM (Xo1Rt)

629 Uh-oh....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 29, 2015 08:24 AM (oAQEw)

630 ?????????

The sailors on this ship can drink beer. They can wear beards. And some can think about retiring with a pension after only 15 years.

On the aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle, the French navys one and only flattop, the galley is filled with bins of fresh-baked croissants and baguettes. Squadron ready rooms are typically stocked with espresso machines and dark chocolates. The berthing compartments have carpet. And the French sailors here have coveralls that are far more hip than those worn in the U.S. Navy.


?????

This is the SHIT The Navy Times prints under Fredo....Talking up the POS French Carrier...THIS is what Fredo would like to turn our Millitary into.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 29, 2015 08:26 AM (gf8BH)

631 Before that, "Dr. Zhivago" was on. Now that movie is one that has stood up to the test of time.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at December 29, 2015 08:13 AM (P8951)


Especially, since it seems were watching the remake play out in real time.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at December 29, 2015 08:26 AM (WWdgA)

632 Warning! Warning!
Winter Weather Advisory from our beloved government National Weather Service.

We might get less than an inch of snow today.
We might get less than an inch of snow tonight.
We might get less than an inch of snow tomorrow.

...and with that, the power goes off.

Posted by: Pierrer3312 at December 29, 2015 08:29 AM (H7oFY)

633 White men are welcome to my club, as long as their schlong is up to snuff.

Posted by: Michael Sam at December 29, 2015 08:29 AM (sv9eA)

634 Still too many who don't understand how they're being brain washed. And they're the ones who need to know it the most.


Don't get me started...

The best way to un-brainwash someone is to tell them that they've allowed themselves to be brainwashed. The shock will wake them up eventually, after they get royally pissed at you.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 29, 2015 08:29 AM (LUgeY)

635 A Kansas City mosque owned by an Islamic umbrella organization with deep ties to the U.S. arm of the Muslim Brotherhood has received millions of dollars in federal grants over the past several years, according to a federal spending database.

The Islamic Center of Greater Kansas City has received $2,739,891 from the Department of Agriculture since 2010, a Daily Caller analysis has found. The money largely went to the mosques Crescent Clinic to provide services through the Women, Infant and Children nutrition program, known as WIC.

Dandy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 29, 2015 08:30 AM (gf8BH)

636 My brother starts talking about history (e.g. Vietnam) and I respond:

"You never read non-fiction books. The only things you think are true are what Whoreywood wants you think."

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 29, 2015 08:31 AM (1ijHg)

637
The majority of 20th century movie idols were living lies.

And people bought the lie and tried to emulate it.



True. But at least, in the golden days of the studios, the lie was in service to a decent, Western culture. Stars were portrayed as good family people and movies affirmed America, not reveling in its decline. People may laugh at Louis B. Mayer's simplicity (or hypocrisy, depending on how you view him) in declaring that he would not allow MGM to make a movie he would be ashamed to let his daughters see, but I would argue that Hollywood and the country were better off when the knowledge that Chaplin was a near-paedophile and Spencer Tracy a bisexual, violent alcoholic was suppressed rather than the common knowledge of every inch of Kim Kardashian's vulva we have today.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 08:31 AM (X6fMO)

638 Cecil: ...doubtful they'd be aware that it would be more convenient to you if they had distinctive markings.

Details, details. Not gonna spoil my good kitteh memories with your mean old sciencey factualities.



As for the lioness growing out more mane and deepening voice, hormonal auto-adjustment certainly seems within the realm of possibility - but of course, not to the point of auto-transgendering. At least, not in higher mammals....

*

Vic? Wake up! They won't post a morning thread until you leave your news on the ONT!

Posted by: mindful webworker - cat man do at December 29, 2015 08:31 AM (4Hf9E)

639 Samuel L Jackson is a dumb cunt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 29, 2015 08:32 AM (gf8BH)

640 I'm not surprised. TMC had one of her movies on last week where she played some brainy orifice worker against Spencer Tracy.

--

Yeah, I watched a bit of it. Life before tge internet - apparently one could call a number and ask random stuff.

Posted by: @votermom at December 29, 2015 08:33 AM (cbfNE)

641 On the aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle,>>>

Did the French ever find that prop they lost?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 29, 2015 08:33 AM (XtAzU)

642 Vic? Wake up! They won't post a morning thread until you leave your news on the ONT!



It's da law!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2015 08:35 AM (fu1JC)

643 Ditto Mary Poppins

Posted by: tops at December 29, 2015 08:37 AM (AX1D8)

644 Samuel L Jackson

Complete ass.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at December 29, 2015 08:37 AM (WWdgA)

645 612
I tried watching "The Lion in Winter" on Sunday, and just couldn't. It
was like hours of your medieval dysfunctional royal family screeching
and bitching at each other -like "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?" set
in a castle - and the dialog wasn't even clever.


----------------
Wow, someone was asleep in history class... You definitely need to crack a book or two on Henry II then. The movie is a true medieval-era classic for encapsulating the most powerful couple in twelfth-century Europe, who were once crazy in love and on top of the world. Then they lost it all in acrimony concerning the princes and their own shortcomings. (Henry II really was a control-freak father who repeatedly drove his sons into rebellion, to the delight of France.) The dramatic situation is fictional, but the feelings are genuine. Peter O'Toole and Katherine Hepburn are just the right people for the roles of the Plantagenet Lion in his final years, and his estranged Lioness concerned for her cubs, especially Richard. There is a remake with Patrick Stewart and Glenn Close in the lead roles, but the first version is till the best.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 08:37 AM (ry4ab)

646
CNN: Chicago: King Louie is on the med, Long Live the Rapper King Louie


He named himself after the orangutan from The Jungle Book?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 29, 2015 08:37 AM (oVJmc)

647 I disagree slightly w NGU on who is fucking up the Armed Forces. It ain't the jug eared fuck, it's the generals themselves. He put them there, but they are enthusiastic SJWs like I never have seen. And that Ash Carter is a beauty too. My grandfather used to say- never underestimate what a man will do to keep a good-paying job. The service is just another government job these days.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at December 29, 2015 08:38 AM (msVAP)

648 Perhaps Mary Poppins' PPP can verify this - I recall reading a while back that Hepburn treated Adolphe Menjou like absolute shit because he was politically conservative and concerned about the number of Commies in Hollywood. Of course the Commies didn't like it.

Especially, since it seems were watching the remake play out in real time.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at December 29, 2015 08:26 AM (WWdgA)

Yep. There's a line in there when a desperate Zhivago says all he wants is to be left alone to live peacefully with his family. The left will never, ever leave you alone.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at December 29, 2015 08:38 AM (P8951)

649 good morning all

Posted by: chemjeff at December 29, 2015 08:40 AM (Ie8Cj)

650 woot woot ont

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 29, 2015 08:40 AM (AkOaV)

651 I disagree slightly w NGU on who is fucking up the Armed Forces. It ain't the jug eared fuck, it's the generals themselves. He put them there, but they are enthusiastic SJWs like I never have seen. And that Ash Carter is a beauty too. My grandfather used to say- never underestimate what a man will do to keep a good-paying job. The service is just another government job these days.
Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at December 29, 2015 08:38 AM (msVAP)

The Buck Stops at the White House...They set the tone, and control the Budget, THE BUDGET!

Yes the suck ass top Generals and Admirals who suck Fredo's dick are to blame also, but it's the President who set's the tone 100%.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 29, 2015 08:42 AM (gf8BH)

652 all day ONT!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 29, 2015 08:42 AM (AkOaV)

653 But even the so called good examples were actually bad for us.

First there's the always threatening fall from grace. And all of them did fall didn't they?

Next is living a lie is still living a lie. You can't possibly live the way they portrayed themselves. Which is why Actors are usually such a mess psychologically.

And then we get into the later half of the 20th and the really negative idols.

So all in all it's not been a good thing for Western Civ.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 08:43 AM (Xo1Rt)

654 636
My brother starts talking about history (e.g. Vietnam) and I respond:

"You never read non-fiction books. The only things you think are true are what Whoreywood wants you think."
----------------
True that, but Hollywood just followed the script handed them by MSM and the Commie-puppet Left. Plenty of anti-communist movies were made before 1965; LBJ never tried to bring Hollywood on board, and he paid for it. American presidents have remained clueless about defining the war story and the war narrative since then. El Rushbo and Glen Beck have had some things to say about losing the culture war since then.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 08:43 AM (ry4ab)

655 all day ONT!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes



No pants and peanut shells all over the floor!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2015 08:43 AM (fu1JC)

656 Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 08:37 AM (ry4ab)

I am aware of the history. I still think the dialog sucks and the movie was tedious. Am I allowed to dislike a movie?

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at December 29, 2015 08:44 AM (P8951)

657 @618. That was "Desk Set", BB. I kinda liked it. The dark haired co-worker of hers was the actress who played Miss Landers in the "Leave it to Beaver" show.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at December 29, 2015 08:45 AM (j2xmV)

658 @638 like that Milo article suggesting that feminists continual aggression produced hormonal, and eventually physiological changes? That's possible. The Sally Kohn of lionesses.

Posted by: Cecil at December 29, 2015 08:45 AM (sv9eA)

659 >>stuck-up prima donna that she was

Heh. That's probably why she does work in The Philadelphia Story, because she comes off as kind of a jerk for half of it and that fits the character.

Posted by: Lea at December 29, 2015 08:46 AM (lIU4e)

660 The fish rots from the head.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 08:46 AM (Xo1Rt)

661 I still think the dialog sucks and the movie was tedious. Am I allowed to dislike a movie?

No. Also, please submit all your food preferences for us to judge as well.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 29, 2015 08:47 AM (659DL)

662 The fish rots from the head.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 08:46 AM (Xo1Rt)

I see you've never been in the bathroom with hillary ha?

Posted by: Bill Clinton at December 29, 2015 08:47 AM (gf8BH)

663 Is that a cislion in winter, or a translion in winter?

Posted by: Mmamoriri at December 29, 2015 08:49 AM (sv9eA)

664
Perhaps Mary Poppins' PPP can verify this - I recall reading a while back that Hepburn treated Adolphe Menjou like absolute shit because he was politically conservative and concerned about the number of Commies in Hollywood. Of course the Commies didn't like it.


I hadn't heard that (frankly, the whole "Red Scare" era of Hollywood bores me to tears), but a quick wiki check reveals that Menjou, testifying before HUAC, said, "Scratch a do-gooder like Hepburn, and they'll yell, 'Pravda!'". She snapped back that Menjou was "a flag-waving superpatriot who invested his American dollars in Canadian bonds and had a thing about Communists."

And, according to a Hepburn biographer, during the filming of 1948s State of the Union, the two only spoke to each other when the script required it.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 08:50 AM (X6fMO)

665 Dry run.
http://tinyurl.com/zhxvg8b


Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 08:50 AM (ry4ab)

666 Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 29, 2015 08:15 AM (Nwg0u)

The Tasmaniam Devil population has been dropping due to a contagious facial cancer passed by biting (and apparently they bite each other a lot). Made me wonder if such a thing were possible in humans (though probably not through biting).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 29, 2015 08:51 AM (GDulk)

667 That was "Desk Set", BB. I kinda liked it. The dark haired co-worker of hers was the actress who played Miss Landers in the "Leave it to Beaver" show.

Yep. Joan Blondell was in it too.

Funny how they showed the computer: the first thing it did was a mistake.

Overall, I kept wondering why they made that movie. Tracy and Hepburn had little in the way of chemistry IMO, and her "romance" was thin.

I do like those old flicks tho' mostly because of the brand new old cars and to see what America looked like back then. I like to see if I can catch things like grocery and gas prices, fashion and other popular topics of the day. I tend to watch everything but the story.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 29, 2015 08:51 AM (LUgeY)

668 There's a study out that examined the effects of birth control on divorce rate.

They found that as soon as birth control pills became easily available, the divorce rate skyrocketed.

They found that it made women less attractive and that women found men less attractive.

There's also something I've noticed and if you pay attention to old movies, you'll see it too. (well actually hear it)

Women don't talk in the same tones that they used to.

To me they are harsher and whinier in tone. Generally less attractive.

This of course doesn't mean every woman and many are not using birth control but it's the same thing with the obesity epidemic. What's changed in the last 40 years?

Birth control and antibiotics. The urine of the female is full of the hormones used in birth control which tends to make men more feminized and with more body fat and antibiotics puts fat on everyone. Why not? It works for cattle. Which is why they give them to them.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 08:52 AM (Xo1Rt)

669 Lion in Winter one of my favorite movies.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 29, 2015 08:53 AM (iQIUe)

670 Yep. There's a line in there when a desperate Zhivago says all he
wants is to be left alone to live peacefully with his family. The left
will never, ever leave you alone.

----------
The movie version of Doctor Zhivago is a long, beautiful infomercial on why the Russian Revolution sucked ass and the Bolshies were no real improvement on what had gone before. That's why Pasternak was threatened by the Kremlin when his novel won the Nobel Prize.


Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 08:53 AM (ry4ab)

671 There are a couple of virus' that produce effects in humans other than the usual stuff.

The Pappiloma virus is one. and can be a precursor for cancer in women.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 08:54 AM (Xo1Rt)

672 656
Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 08:37 AM (ry4ab)



I am aware of the history. I still think the dialog sucks and the movie was tedious. Am I allowed to dislike a movie?
--------
You are allowed to dislike it. And I am allowed to call BS on you for disagreeing with me on it.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 08:55 AM (ry4ab)

673 666 ... The Tasmaniam Devil population...

Seems appropriate.

I'm probably not going to make it to the morning thread...

Posted by: mindful webworker - diabolical numberology at December 29, 2015 08:55 AM (4Hf9E)

674 You will be MADE to care.

(or at least mouth the approved babblings)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 08:56 AM (Xo1Rt)

675 Last day of patients for 2015...Happy Happy happy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 29, 2015 08:56 AM (gf8BH)

676 I have prog friends who continue to deny that progressivism is totalitarianism.

New York's law that criminalizes the use of Standard English when referring to someone's gender hasn't changed their minds.

They're fucking insane.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 29, 2015 08:56 AM (u5gzz)

677 665: "Dry run."

I'm thinking the expanding use and abuse of UAVs or drones will (or at least should) prompt a resurgence in the development in smaller and better control signal jammers.

ECM and ECCM arms race for the masses as it were.

We have a guy at our gaming table whose wife calls him on his cell phone almost every 15 minutes for inane bullshit. The guys and I are contemplating building a cell jammer with a 5 yard range. I'd also like to see businesses like movie theaters and restaurants start fielding them.

All these assholes who want to ruin my day/evening with their technology, need to learn to keep their shit to themselves.

Time to start putting caltrops in my lawn...

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 29, 2015 08:57 AM (4nmNX)

678 I do like those old flicks tho' mostly because of the brand new old cars and to see what America looked like back then.



When did America go from black and white to color?

Honestly, as a little kid, I thought that. That's what happens when you are born on the cusp of widespread color film usage.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2015 09:00 AM (fu1JC)

679 669
Lion in Winter one of my favorite movies.
-------
As someone who has been known to live in pre-modern Europe for entire weekends, it is one of my faves both as a movie and as historical fiction. I think the movie really works due to an attention to detail, but also in taking a true-to-life dramatic theme and running with it, and using A-list star power to do it.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 09:00 AM (ry4ab)

680 Eight years posting here and that's the first 666 I've gotten. Hadn't realized 'til I saw the reply.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 29, 2015 09:01 AM (GDulk)

681 Heh. That first image reminds me of a musical buddy who was a cameraman at an Allman Bros show some years ago. He was drinking a beer, Greg Allman caught him and fired him on the spot.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 29, 2015 09:01 AM (LUgeY)

682 On this week in December 1776 General Washington faced with a loss of his enlisted men promised them $10 each if they would re-enlist for 6 weeks. He asked Robert Morris for the money. Morris had given all his wealth but went door to door asking for the money and based on his honor to repay the money raised the $50,000 needed by New Years Day.

Hoping to hear from Vic

Posted by: tops at December 29, 2015 09:01 AM (AX1D8)

683 I have prog friends



Why?


Life is too short for that bs.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2015 09:02 AM (fu1JC)

684
There's also something I've noticed and if you pay attention to old movies, you'll see it too. (well actually hear it)


Women don't talk in the same tones that they used to.


To me they are harsher and whinier in tone. Generally less attractive.



Voice coaches. And not only Hollywood; girls used to go to what were called "finishing schools," where they were taught to walk and speak like ladies.

I have to laugh during the rare occasions when I go to a movie these days; not one of the female leads would have been let out of an MGM dialogue school sounding the way they do.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2015 09:03 AM (X6fMO)

685 The Japs got the right idea; nets.

This big bastard of a drone carries a net and nets the illegal drone and carries it off.

They used to make a round for the shotgun that expanded into a net for crowd control.

And of course there's Spiderman.

Don't shoot a drone with a firearm. It's usually illegal to fire a weapon around houses. This would include any projectile thrower too in some areas. So what to do?

Although still illegal, I'd use a crossbow bolt tied to a fishing line and reel. Snag that sucker and reel it in. Rip out it's camera (most aren't broadcasting their video it goes on a digital media) memory and then toss it somewhere likely.

End of problem/snooping.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 09:03 AM (Xo1Rt)

686 Let's see the LGBT SJW crowd try these stories on for fitting The Narrative.

http://tinyurl.com/p83j68x


http://tinyurl.com/z833wdo

Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 09:03 AM (ry4ab)

687 Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 08:52 AM (Xo1Rt)


That's odd, since birth control pills are just estrogen, which I'd expect would make women more feminine. I have noticed how vocal inflections have changed, and not for the better.

Posted by: Mmamoriri at December 29, 2015 09:03 AM (sv9eA)

688 Am I allowed to dislike a movie?

-
You'll have to submit a form XB1040 to the People's Committee of Film Disliking. After a few months or years you will get a response.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at December 29, 2015 09:05 AM (Nwg0u)

689 oh man that is funny shit right there ... over at Gateway. Jeb challenges the Donald to a debate and Trump tweets yeb picking el nose-o. Priceless....

Posted by: E.T. at December 29, 2015 09:05 AM (yq4gk)

690 Why?

Life is too short for that bs.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 29, 2015 09:02 AM (fu1JC)


That's why I can't understand how someone like Jane D'oh puts up with it. A hell on earth, which I happen to believe we are all living, but that's a whole different discussion.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at December 29, 2015 09:06 AM (WWdgA)

691 When did America go from black and white to color?

Honestly, as a little kid, I thought that. That's what happens when you are born on the cusp of widespread color film usage.


I guess I was somewhat lucky that Mumsy Dearest put a camera in my hand around age 6. I learned the difference in films, how to load and unload, don't grab a hot flashbulb, and all that stuff real early.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 29, 2015 09:06 AM (LUgeY)

692 Oh, and bolas might work too for drones if they're close enough.

Hand thrown stuff, nothing with an assisted power device cause that will wind up being illegal somehow.

Javelin, discus, baseball, big rock, Frisbee.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 09:06 AM (Xo1Rt)

693 Anyone else having trouble accessing Weasel Zippers? I get a message that it is off-line when I try to go there.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 29, 2015 09:06 AM (GDulk)

694 676
I have prog friends who continue to deny that progressivism is totalitarianism.



They're fucking insane.

------------

10% of the progs are commies/fascists in sheeple's clothing. the other 90% are varying degrees of conformists who don't want to be shunned by the cool kids for saying or doing the wrong thing. "High school never ends."

Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 09:07 AM (ry4ab)

695 685: "Although still illegal, I'd use a crossbow bolt tied to a fishing line and reel."

I wonder if an EMP wave could be contained and channeled into a directional beam or path? Sort of like an EMP gun of some sort.

I imagine there would be some big money to be made out of such a development.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 29, 2015 09:07 AM (4nmNX)

696 Zip is having issues, I think.

Posted by: Rocket J. Squirrel at December 29, 2015 09:07 AM (HhSOK)

697 692
Oh, and bolas might work too for drones if they're close enough.

Hand thrown stuff, nothing with an assisted power device cause that will wind up being illegal somehow.

Javelin, discus, baseball, big rock, Frisbee.
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Or once can emulate the example of the Vice President and fire a shotgun off the porch.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 09:08 AM (ry4ab)

698 Was saving these for the morning thread, but... (refreshes main page one last time)... nope, still not up.

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[Jimmy] Hatch, a Navy SEAL senior chief who led a platoon into a fierce battle to try to rescue Bergdahl, was shot and badly wounded on that mission. Beside him, service dog Remco lay mortally wounded, after running through a hail of bullets at two Taliban fighters hiding in a ditch, exposing their whereabouts....

Dianna Cahn, Stars and Stripes
http://1.usa.gov/1YLAfEy

h/t Dave Blount, Moonbattery
http://moonbattery.com/?p=66933

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Good article by some "Dedicated Tenther" on the attitude of gratitude.

...Then, a week or two ago, while listening to our preacher give his lesson, something struck me. It pierced me to the core....

http://bit.ly/1OqI1so

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A Biblical scholar claims that due to a mistranslation the original scripture actually says that Eve was made from Adam's penis not his rib. The professor states that man is the only mammal without a penis bone. Guess that's where it went.

c/o Weird Universe
http://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/not_the_rib/

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"Battle Bike" - bicycle ready for serious action

Also c/o Weird Universe
http://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/battle_bike/

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And, repeating from earlier upthread...

Congratulations to Ace of Spades for winning The Senator John Blutarsky Award for Conservative Blogging!

Doug Ross
http://bit.ly/1Pu0iKx

Posted by: mindful webworker - Not Vic, but the Section B team at December 29, 2015 09:09 AM (4Hf9E)

699 688
Am I allowed to dislike a movie?



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You'll have to submit a form XB1040 to the People's Committee of
Film Disliking. After a few months or years you will get a response.
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I better print a dozen of those forms, Oscar pleading season is upon us.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 29, 2015 09:10 AM (ry4ab)

700 Posted by: Rocket J. Squirrel at December 29, 2015 09:07 AM (HhSOK)

Good to know it isn't just me. I have JavaScript turned off, so accessibility is limited already (haven't been able to find the settings to let me whitelist just that site).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 29, 2015 09:10 AM (GDulk)

701 nood

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 29, 2015 09:11 AM (KCxzN)

702 I think there's more than just estrogen (that's what affects the guys though) in birth control pills.

I think it's a certain combination which mimics the hormone balance a woman would have when she's not ovulating. And in some women it does prevent ovulation/menses.

I'm no chemist. Ask Chemjeff what's in birth control pills.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at December 29, 2015 09:11 AM (Xo1Rt)

703 It worked! it worked! My post caused the morning thread!

* bows *

Posted by: mindful webworker - of course at December 29, 2015 09:12 AM (4Hf9E)

704 nood nood nood

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 29, 2015 09:13 AM (AkOaV)

705 If i can haz my abortions you can tell me what to say, think, read, can't read, what products I can use, what doctor I can or can't see and how many hours I can leave the lights on.
Freedom baby!

Posted by: Bystander at December 29, 2015 09:13 AM (k8tEg)

706 My brother still has one of those phones, a black bakelite thing weights about 6 pounds. And it still works. He has moved it about four times, just plug it in and wonder of wonders.. He should charge admission and/or offer lessons i the operation of

Posted by: semilttierate at December 29, 2015 02:44 PM (ldTNN)

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