Overnight Open Thread (26 Dec 2015)

Hopefully you morons were able to stay home today and not wade out into return line hell.

Top Ten Constitutional Violations

Must be hard to condense Obama's Constitutional violations into a top 10 list. And the list is mostly only for this year. I'm sure this last year is gonna be a doozy.

Question Of The Day

Journalism today. Why are Chinese restaurants open on Christmas?

Best News Bloopers Of 2015 Part Deux

UAV Problems

Heh. My son's UAV lasted all of a day but I think I can fix it. One of the rotors isn't working right now. All those Christmas UAVs are falling out of the sky.

ER Visit Data

It's that time of year to review all the things folks were putting into orifices and then had to go to the ER.

Ear
-"Put tissue paper in ear to keep hairspray from getting in ear"
-"Patient states roach was in ear, stabbed it with pin, sustained perforation of tympanic membrane"

Throat
-Broom
-"Was eating beef jerky, when he opened the package of silica and sprinkled it on the beef jerky"
-Wig

Taylor Davis

Gun Tax

Just stupid. Judge upholds Seattle's 'gun violence' tax. It'll do nothing to address 'gun violence' and is essentially just a money grab on law abiding citizens exercising their 2nd Amendment rights.

Cable Prices

Well this should accelerate the demise of cable companies. Get ready to ring in '16 with a cable bill increase of up to 4%.

Box Office Showdown

I don't think Star Wars: The Force Awakens will dethrone Avatar but I sure hope it does.

Cat Video

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1 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 26, 2015 09:56 PM (KCxzN)

2 Howdy ONT.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at December 26, 2015 09:56 PM (FhtF7)

3 Caught me napping, was hoping for my fourth

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2015 09:56 PM (C1Suc)

4 Eagles schlonged up the time giving Redskins a minute who promptly ran down the field to the 6 yr then scrounged themselves out of any points. Skins 16 - Birds 10.

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2015 09:59 PM (C1Suc)

5
The White House December 26, 2015

Statement by the President and the First Lady on Kwanzaa

Michelle and I extend our warmest wishes to families across the country celebrating Kwanzaa this holiday season. Today begins a week-long celebration of African-American heritage and culture through family and community festivities. Kwanzaa's seven principles, unity, self-determination, collective work and responsibility, cooperative economics, purpose, creativity and faith, are also shared values that bind us as Americans.

And in the spirit of the season, we reflect on the blessings of the past year and commit to building a brighter future for all our children. As families, friends, and neighbors come together today to light the Kinara, our family sends our best wishes for a happy and healthy new year.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 26, 2015 10:01 PM (kdS6q)

6 Hope Appeals court strikes down Seattle's gun and ammo tax.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at December 26, 2015 10:01 PM (FhtF7)

7 Hello? Anyone here?

Posted by: CMU VET at December 26, 2015 10:01 PM (ejB0r)

8 Evening all. Prayers for Texas. Lots of friends and family in the storm path. Grew up in DFW. Tornadoes at night are the worst.

Posted by: Beth M at December 26, 2015 10:02 PM (kiy9d)

9 Did notice yesterday two oriental restaurants open in the short trip to relatives, only thing open until night when Dunkin Donuts was open

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2015 10:02 PM (C1Suc)

10 Woot woot ONT

Now to go look at MOAR content

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:03 PM (voOPb)

11 Good evening, survivors. Nice Christmastime days are over and colder temperatures and rain have moved into NE OK.

No tornadoes, though. God bless folks in Texas.

Posted by: mindful webworker - what's a turtledove anyway? at December 26, 2015 10:04 PM (ACs58)

12
Never have understood just how a document-our Constitution-written in black and white can be read in so many shades of grey.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 26, 2015 10:04 PM (jeCnD)

13 g'night, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 26, 2015 10:04 PM (KCxzN)

14 Avatar was a horrible movie. I have never finished watching it. Its just awful.

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 26, 2015 10:05 PM (NGd+i)

15 I remember reading a piece by some ER doc about the rectum adventures. He claimed that in all his years, he's never had a female come in who, you know, accidentally sat on things -- you know, happens all the time. It was all men.

No apparently there've been some interesting things found in vaginas a time or two, but the rectum rangers were all men.

I wonder if that actually holds nationwide.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 26, 2015 10:05 PM (dvuhZ)

16 Nite Alton

Posted by: Hanoverfist at December 26, 2015 10:05 PM (FhtF7)

17 Some funny stuff

Some stuff that pisses one off

Job well done CDR M
Good luck with the kids uav

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:06 PM (voOPb)

18 Doesn't the kwaanzzaa celebration have a big finish where the President and First Lady are thrown into a volcano? I'm sure I remember reading about that.

Posted by: mindful webworker - quanset? at December 26, 2015 10:06 PM (ACs58)

19 It'll do nothing to address 'gun violence' and is essentially just a money grab on law abiding citizens exercising their 2nd Amendment rights.

No, it's about control. The kind of vicious control the proponents of Jim Crow laws used via poll taxes, literacy test, and other nazi brown shirt shit.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2015 10:07 PM (9YDUz)

20 Frank Beamer finished out his coaching career with a win. VaTech won a crazy game against Tulsa, 55-52. Ole Frank is a class act, he'll be missed.

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 26, 2015 10:08 PM (NGd+i)

21 Good luck with the kids uav
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:06 PM (voOPb)

It was a low cost one so no biggie if I can't fix it. It was fun for a day. He didn't understand how to finesse the controls. I think I just need to adjust the blade on the one engine.

Posted by: CDR M at December 26, 2015 10:08 PM (SCx0h)

22 11 - N Central OK here - brrr. Global warming be dammed.

Posted by: Marybel at December 26, 2015 10:08 PM (mxd0k)

23 Cable price increases, better get the master of economics on it.

Hey Bernie where are you?

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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:08 PM (voOPb)

24 In the days that computer games came on floppy discs there was a humorous game called Space Quest. The hero was a janitor. Today I saw a movie where one of the leads was assigned to sanitation duties before entering upon an epic quest. Perhaps a subtle reference by a Space Quest fan.

Posted by: tmitsss at December 26, 2015 10:09 PM (L0IIq)

25 Puddleglum: Avatar was a horrible movie. I have never finished watching it. Its just awful.

I did finish it, eventually, but it took many sessions of watching a little bit at a time, often windowed while playing solitaire.

As I recall, it was something about giant smurfs at war with the free market....?

Posted by: mindful webworker - virtual virtuousness at December 26, 2015 10:09 PM (ACs58)

26 Avatar was a horrible movie. I have never finished watching it. Its just awful.
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 26, 2015 10:05 PM (NGd+i)

I agree. I was baffled by all of the accolades it received. I've only been able to watch parts but they were plodding, dull, and just plain stupid. A group of savages isn't going to beat a space faring race. That stupid tree would have been obliterated by a simple kinetic strike.

Posted by: WOPR at December 26, 2015 10:10 PM (LTDSy)

27 Good evening, survivors. Nice Christmastime days are over and colder temperatures and rain have moved into NE OK.

No tornadoes, though. God bless folks in Texas.



Spotty service. Heavy rain. Supposedly in the path of the Bonham tornado. Not hearing anything atm.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 26, 2015 10:10 PM (rXkis)

28 Hola, amigoz en loz intertuboz!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2015 10:10 PM (EzgxV)

29 Cable price increases, better get the master of economics on it.

Hey Bernie where are you?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian


Raitch here:

@SenSanders 11h
You have families out there paying 6, 8, 10 percent on student debt but you can refinance your homes at 3 percent. What sense is that?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2015 10:10 PM (9YDUz)

30
Where's Bernie?

Feelin the burn from the DNC right now.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 26, 2015 10:11 PM (jeCnD)

31 Posted by: CDR M at December 26, 2015 10:08 PM (SCx0h)

I remeber my first RC car at Xmas. Lasted until 12/26 sad event. Sounds like you have the situation under control

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:11 PM (voOPb)

32 OK, those guys may have invented the selfie, but did they do it during a spacewalk? I thought not.

https://tinyurl.com/njhzrk9

Posted by: Buzz Aldrin at December 26, 2015 10:12 PM (sdi6R)

33 As I recall, it was something about giant smurfs at war with the free market....?
Posted by: mindful webworker - virtual virtuousness at December 26, 2015 10:09 PM (ACs5

Giant smurfs who worshipped the tree connected to the world in some eco mumbo-jumbo. I hate smurfs, never thought Sam Worthington was a good actor, and was wanting them all to die.

Posted by: WOPR at December 26, 2015 10:13 PM (LTDSy)

34 I've tried to watch Avatar but its really a poorly written pile of shit. Wasted some talented actors. Those of you who have sat through the whole thing deserve a medal.

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 26, 2015 10:13 PM (NGd+i)

35 @29 weft cut-loop

I saw his brilliance over at WZ

Ha ha

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:14 PM (voOPb)

36 Jim Webb talking about third party run.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 26, 2015 10:14 PM (FkBIv)

37 Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2015 10:10 PM (9YDUz)

In Bernie's defense, since you can't discharge the debt like normal debt, it doesn't make sense it is so high. I know he's not thinking that way but there is a valid point.

Posted by: WOPR at December 26, 2015 10:15 PM (LTDSy)

38 Jim Webb talking about third party run.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 26, 2015 10:14 PM (FkBIv)

I could see him being the Uniparty candidate. Both sides of the establishment are starting to panic.

Posted by: WOPR at December 26, 2015 10:16 PM (LTDSy)

39 Stephan Lang and Sigourny Weaver were in Avatar and they are pretty solid actors, especially Lang.

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 26, 2015 10:17 PM (NGd+i)

40 RK - 'bout time for you to check in dude.

Posted by: Sixkiller at December 26, 2015 10:17 PM (szEUw)

41 Wasted some talented actors. Those of you who have sat through the whole thing deserve a medal.
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 26, 2015 10:13 PM (NGd+i)

Cameron, like Lucas, became more interested in the technology than the story.

Posted by: WOPR at December 26, 2015 10:18 PM (LTDSy)

42 Chinese restaurants are open on Christmas because not everybody has a family or other entity to eat Christmas dinner with. Gotta eat somewhere, and Kung Pao Chicken sounds a whole lot better than Swanson's Turkey Pot Pie.

Posted by: antisocialist at December 26, 2015 10:18 PM (cDs+4)

43 I thought Avatar was very well written.

Posted by: george lucas at December 26, 2015 10:19 PM (EWg9n)

44 We went out some years for Chinese food on Christmas when I was a kid. The place was jam packed.

Posted by: Sanfranpsycho at December 26, 2015 10:19 PM (Vv/Pc)

45 Stephan Lang and Sigourny Weaver were in Avatar and they are pretty solid actors, especially Lang.
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 26, 2015 10:17 PM (NGd+i)

Definitely, but as you pointed out, the script was horrible.

Posted by: WOPR at December 26, 2015 10:20 PM (LTDSy)

46 In Bernie's defense, since you can't discharge the debt like normal debt, it doesn't make sense it is so high. I know he's not thinking that way but there is a valid point.
Posted by: WOPR


As other's have pointed out; home loans are secured by this thing called YOUR FUCKING HOUSE.

College loans aren't secured by dick. And they should be! At least 50% should be undersigned by the uni/college/trade/whatever.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2015 10:20 PM (9YDUz)

47 So I did some cringing reading the items stuck up orifices

F*cking gene pool is awfully shallow

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:20 PM (voOPb)

48 I think Webb would hurt us more than the Dems, actually. Hillybilly may actually want a Webb 3rd party run.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 26, 2015 10:20 PM (dvuhZ)

49 Chinese turkey!

Posted by: Ralphie at December 26, 2015 10:21 PM (8aOqE)

50 Did those cats draw their own facial expressions or did someone help them?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 26, 2015 10:22 PM (NeFrd)

51 CDR M, what make and model UAV is it? (Thanks for not saying drone.....grrrrr).

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 26, 2015 10:22 PM (Bi1Tt)

52 45:Definitely, but as you pointed out, the script was horrible.


I watched Furious 7 the other night. It was Shakespeare compared to Avatar. F7 was a fun, stupid movie. I loved it.

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 26, 2015 10:22 PM (NGd+i)

53 A friend who lives in Arkansas sent me a video of her son and his UAV. He's really doing a great job flying the thing. And his stupid dog keeps trying to catch it.
I predict a very short life for said UAV.

Posted by: antisocialist at December 26, 2015 10:23 PM (cDs+4)

54 I remember reading something by a female ER doc about fishing things out of asses. The same guy kept coming in with things stuck up there, and she realized by the fourth time that he was doing it on purpose. He was getting off on her doing what she had to do, which was, well, stick a gloved hand up there. Yep, they do that.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 26, 2015 10:23 PM (dvuhZ)

55 Flied lice or white lice?

Posted by: Sum Ting Wong at December 26, 2015 10:23 PM (Dwehj)

56 And they should be! At least 50% should be undersigned by the uni/college/trade/whatever.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2015 10:20 PM (9YDUz)

I'm not saying they should be home loan levels but the 7-9% range is too high for a loan that is permanently attached to you.

The whole thing is a mess and the gov't has not place in it. But, based on the current stupid system, the rates don't make sense.

Posted by: WOPR at December 26, 2015 10:23 PM (LTDSy)

57 Avatar was a horrible movie. I have never finished watching it. Its just awful.
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 26, 2015 10:05 PM (NGd+i)


I was half-watching it on dvd with my kids... until it got up to the World Trade Center Tree scene. That was it for me.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 26, 2015 10:24 PM (Dj0WE)

58 So I'm watching this bowl game and I'm kinda digging on the singing chicken commercials, but then find that they want me to eat the durn things after they have entertained me so much. That doesn't feel right.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 26, 2015 10:25 PM (NeFrd)

59 50 Did those cats draw their own facial expressions or did someone help them?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 26, 2015 10:22 PM (NeFrd)

Thumbs baby! Thumbs

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:25 PM (voOPb)

60 Holy shit
It's 10:30!!!
I'm used to the ONT at like 5pm

Posted by: Navycopjoe at December 26, 2015 10:25 PM (VKDnx)

61 Happy Boxing Day all y'all ...

Posted by: Adriane the Sports Critic ... at December 26, 2015 10:26 PM (AoK0a)

62 I think Webb would hurt us more than the Dems, actually. Hillybilly may actually want a Webb 3rd party run.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 26, 2015 10:20 PM (dvuhZ)

If it looks like someone the establishment doesn't want has a solid chance to win, I believe they would throw in a few semi-viable candidates to suck up enough electoral votes to force it to the House.

Posted by: WOPR at December 26, 2015 10:26 PM (LTDSy)

63 Stephan Lang and Sigourny Weaver were in Avatar and they are pretty solid actors, especially Lang.
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 26, 2015 10:17 PM (NGd+i)


My wife and I saw Lang in NYC when A Few Good Men was still just a play. Lang WAS Jessup, and when the curtain calls came, Lang got a well-deserved standing O. We both figured he got that every performance.

He was great as Ike Clanton, too.

Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at December 26, 2015 10:27 PM (wKcQA)

64 58: You eat puppets? Thats gotta do some interesting things inside your colon.

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 26, 2015 10:27 PM (NGd+i)

65 Navycopjoe

Time zone change?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:27 PM (voOPb)

66 (Thanks for not saying drone.....grrrrr).
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise


Reminds me of the blimp vs. aerostat fight earlier this year.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 26, 2015 10:28 PM (FkBIv)

67 If you don't like the rate on student loans I have a radical solution. Don't take out the fucking loan.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 26, 2015 10:28 PM (kTF2Z)

68 I'm visiting my sis in RI

Posted by: Navycopjoe at December 26, 2015 10:28 PM (DDMLG)

69 @64-

No, no, no. There's these real singing chickens, not puppets. The chickens sing, got a nice little bass countermelody thing going on, my toes start to tap, then they show a plate of crispy golden-brown fried chicken tenders. Dang near brought a tear to my eye it did.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 26, 2015 10:30 PM (NeFrd)

70 63: He's played alot of great characters over the years. A sleazy reporter in Manhunter, the ill fated General Pickett, that guy in the wheel chair in Into The Badlands. He's a great actor.

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 26, 2015 10:30 PM (NGd+i)

71 NCJ yeah RI would explain it
Safe travels to you on your way back

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:30 PM (voOPb)

72 Found a company in a somewhat similar line of work to my old employer looking for someone to help with IT support.

I'm cautiously optimistic.

Posted by: junior at December 26, 2015 10:31 PM (aIiFP)

73 real singing chickens

They're finger lickin' good.

Posted by: Colonel Bernie Sanders at December 26, 2015 10:31 PM (Dwehj)

74 Speaking of SF-ish flix (which Avatar isn't), Milady and I finished watching The Martian tonight. Satisfying enough - well portrayed.

Having just watched a documentary on the 1968 Apollo 8 daring-do, I could almost imagine folks actually taking those wild chances and big risks and succeeding... in 1968, at least. Not nowadays.

Earthrise: The First Lunar Voyage
https://youtu.be/xfmtFO2eAag

Posted by: mindful webworker - spacey at December 26, 2015 10:31 PM (ACs58)

75 I'm not saying they should be home loan levels but the 7-9% range is too high for a loan that is permanently attached to you.

The whole thing is a mess and the gov't has not place in it. But, based on the current stupid system, the rates don't make sense.
Posted by: WOPR


I won't drag this out any further than to say it's not up to a polity to say whether or not a loan for a 4-year resort that offers unmarketable skills is too high. That should be entirely between the undersigned and the lender.

I'd go a step further and say it shouldn't be up to the Feds to set the base rate for any loan, IYKWIM.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2015 10:33 PM (9YDUz)

76 HAHA, Redskins score. Fuck Philly.

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 26, 2015 10:33 PM (NGd+i)

77 Good luck junior hope it works out

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:33 PM (voOPb)

78 Ho Ho fvck this year.


I am so sick of the NY Slime THREE stories on the ROP killing women and a story about the flag in SC.



I want everyone to think about how much the ROP people cost the world.




TSA! When I was a kid, you went to the airport in a coat and tie and got on the plane.



Posted by: MSM at December 26, 2015 10:33 PM (jJRIy)

79 off MSM sock

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2015 10:33 PM (jJRIy)

80 Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at December 26, 2015 10:22 PM (Bi1Tt)


I don't know. It was from a toy store so nothing fancy and really small. I'll have to go ask my son where it's at right now.

Posted by: CDR M at December 26, 2015 10:34 PM (SCx0h)

81 Redskins are plucking the Eagles.

Posted by: The Chicken at December 26, 2015 10:34 PM (8aOqE)

82 So, it's supposed to be minus 3 degrees here tonight. I don't get that. How can you have a negative number of degrees?


Dude #1: Hey, how many degrees you got?

Dude #2: Umm, actually none. In fact I owe them three degrees.

Dude #1: You owe who three degrees?

Dude #2: I guess the weather guy. I dunno.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 26, 2015 10:34 PM (NeFrd)

83 62: Actually, their own anti-3rd party rules could bite them in the ass if they tried that. I think a "minor party" candidate has to start the process by March to be able to make the ballot in all 50 states. And at that, you've got to get petitions with enough signatures and all that shit.

Of course, I'm sure the Establishment could find a way to get around that, maybe, but I'm not sure how.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 26, 2015 10:35 PM (dvuhZ)

84 hi all
phew a long drive
temporarily stopped to watch the husker game
ugh lots of rain
did anyone hear from Michael Hobbit's wife?

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2015 10:35 PM (FlPNt)

85 Free college and free singin' chickens.

Posted by: Colonel Bernie Sanders at December 26, 2015 10:35 PM (Dwehj)

86 No, I don't have to sing for my supper.

Posted by: the chicken at December 26, 2015 10:36 PM (DLIIY)

87 @75 exactly.

They have to have their fingers in everything.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:36 PM (voOPb)

88 No one in the party establishment on either side would be comfortable with Webb. The guy pretty much defines "loose cannon".

It's not too hard to pencil out who the potential Webb voters are. They're blue-collar and tieless-white-collar workers who vote Democrat not because of socialist economics or identity politics, but simply because that's what dad and granddad did, and such folk are more staunch traditionalists than they are sober analysts. They drink beer, hunt deer, fly the flag, get misty when they hear the national anthem, and believe in kicking the shit out of anyone who dares mess with the U.S.A.

Problem is, the demographic with that combination of characteristics was once very large, but it is now greatly atrophied from what it once was.

Webb might win West Virginia and certain parts of the upper Midwest, but I doubt he would carry any entire states in the upper Midwest. Other than that, bupkis.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 26, 2015 10:36 PM (noWW6)

89 82
So, it's supposed to be minus 3 degrees here tonight. I don't get that. How can you have a negative number of degrees?



It's called F vs C.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2015 10:37 PM (jJRIy)

90 MNWP, it says Buzz Toys on it. It's only about 2" x 2". Small little sucker. It didn't cost much.

Posted by: CDR M at December 26, 2015 10:37 PM (SCx0h)

91 They have to have their fingers in everything.

Posted by: the chicken at December 26, 2015 10:37 PM (DLIIY)

92 Chemjeff how in the hell does a 5-7 cornhusker team get invited to a bowl game?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:38 PM (voOPb)

93 I want everyone to think about how much the ROP people cost the world.

Some fewd for thot:

Animated Map Shows How Religion Spread Around The World
http://youtu.be/AvFl6UBZLv4

The future of world religions (2050)
http://youtu.be/l3gpkP-Atpc

c/o War News Updates
http://bit.ly/1NHFQU6

Posted by: mindful webworker - sects sects sects at December 26, 2015 10:38 PM (ACs58)

94 71. I'll be in New York when the ball drops
I just hope the muzzies don't set off an attack
It'd ruin my celebration

Posted by: Navycopjoe at December 26, 2015 10:38 PM (DDMLG)

95 No, I don't have to sing for my supper.
Posted by: the chicken


Know any banjo tunes?

Posted by: Banjo Enthusiast & Vest Sporter at December 26, 2015 10:38 PM (9YDUz)

96 How can you have a negative number of degrees?

Beats me.

Posted by: Lord Kelvin at December 26, 2015 10:38 PM (FlPNt)

97 The student loan business is a racket, pure and simple, a crony racket. In a true free market, with a proper sound banking system, it wouldn't exist much at all.

It would be too risky.

And that reminds me, did you know Louisiana is trying to pass a measure to require students to apply for federal financial aid for college *in order to graduate high school*? That means their parents have to fill out the financial forms, something I wouldn't do for any kid of mine. I'm not going to put myself on the hook for any damn kid (well, I don't have any, so maybe that's why I feel that way...) How the hell they can get away with that, I don't know.

Anyway, it's only the crony government meddling that allows student loans to be viable anyway.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 26, 2015 10:39 PM (dvuhZ)

98 Know any banjo tunes?
I'm the one that gets plucked.

Posted by: the chicken at December 26, 2015 10:39 PM (DLIIY)

99 They have to have their fingers in everything.

Yep

Posted by: ER Nurse at December 26, 2015 10:39 PM (Dwehj)

100 All four rotors spin but it does not generate lift from one of them. One side will lift up but the other will drag. Knowing my son, he broke something when he tried to replace the rotor/prop when I wasn't around.

Posted by: CDR M at December 26, 2015 10:39 PM (SCx0h)

101 92
Chemjeff how in the hell does a 5-7 cornhusker team get invited to a bowl game?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:38 PM (voOPb)

1. bowl inflation
2. they were the best 5-7 team

3. husker fans are awesome

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2015 10:40 PM (FlPNt)

102 Eagles score. 23-17 Redskins. Somebody has to win this shitty division, but who? Who will not choke on there own dick first?

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 26, 2015 10:40 PM (NGd+i)

103
Statement by the President and the First Lady on Kwanzaa

I'ma willing to bet that those two Kay and self-absorbed f*cks don't celebrate K-za, either.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 26, 2015 10:40 PM (BK3ZS)

104
Kay == lazy

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 26, 2015 10:40 PM (BK3ZS)

105 Dude #3: Hey man, what's the temperature?


Dude #4: Umm, we don't have any. In fact, we won't have any until it warms up four degrees.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 26, 2015 10:41 PM (NeFrd)

106 The call to Kwanzaa is one of the most beautiful things to hear.

Posted by: Barack Obama at December 26, 2015 10:41 PM (SCx0h)

107 Chemjeff how in the hell does a 5-7 cornhusker team get invited to a bowl game?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love

Because there are 8 million bowl games now?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 26, 2015 10:41 PM (/FOB4)

108 74
Having just watched a documentary on the 1968 Apollo 8 daring-do, I could almost imagine folks actually taking those wild chances and big risks and succeeding... in 1968, at least. Not nowadays.

Posted by: mindful webworker - spacey at December 26, 2015 10:31 PM (ACs5



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCBE8ocOkAQ

Posted by: rickl at December 26, 2015 10:41 PM (sdi6R)

109 I have at least one negative minus degree.

Posted by: "Dr." Jill Biden at December 26, 2015 10:41 PM (/ciMI)

110 I'm sure they sanitation worker reference is due to the actor being a black guy. Next meme, you heard it here first.

Posted by: Jean at December 26, 2015 10:41 PM (0xFDy)

111 Kateurday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/680791332152041472

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/680791478260621312

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/680791635974860800

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/680791766811934721

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/680791893677072385

Posted by: kbdabear at December 26, 2015 10:42 PM (GrXXa)

112 Ha ha chemjeff

Badger fans say they travel better than the cornhusker fans

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:42 PM (voOPb)

113 Chemjeff how in the hell does a 5-7 cornhusker team get invited to a bowl game?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:38 PM (voOPb)
1. bowl inflation
2. they were the best 5-7 team

3. husker fans are awesome



4. There are too many fucking bowl games.

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 26, 2015 10:42 PM (NGd+i)

114 Seamus Muldoon: So, it's supposed to be minus 3 degrees here tonight. I don't get that. How can you have a negative number of degrees?

That's the government atwerk, lying to you again.

It's really a comfy 253°K

Posted by: mindful webworker - sects sects sects at December 26, 2015 10:42 PM (ACs58)

115 MNWP, it says Buzz Toys on it. It's only about 2" x 2". Small little sucker. It didn't cost much.
Posted by: CDR M at December 26, 2015 10:37 PM (SCx0h)

****

Don't know that one, and that is much smaller than what I fly. Sorry I couldn't help.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 26, 2015 10:43 PM (YLidQ)

116 Negative temperatures are the result of Global Climate Warming Change.

Posted by: Neil De Ass Tyson at December 26, 2015 10:43 PM (/FOB4)

117 I'm on butt triage this evening. Sigh.

Posted by: ER Nurse at December 26, 2015 10:44 PM (Dwehj)

118 109
I have at least one negative minus degree.

Posted by: "Dr." Jill Biden at December 26, 2015 10:41 PM (/ciMI)


Zero bitches we started all this shit.

Posted by: The Goat fucker, Mohamad at December 26, 2015 10:44 PM (jJRIy)

119
It's really a comfy 253K

Posted by: mindful webworker - sects sects sects at December 26, 2015 10:42 PM (ACs5

Oh no no, you must heat it up to 400R

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2015 10:45 PM (FlPNt)

120 I'd go a step further and say it shouldn't be up to the Feds to set the base rate for any loan, IYKWIM.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2015 10:33 PM (9YDUz)

My last reply. The Feds are the student loan business now. Not much in the way of private entities.

Posted by: WOPR at December 26, 2015 10:45 PM (LTDSy)

121 117
I'm on butt triage this evening. Sigh.


Posted by: ER Nurse at December 26, 2015 10:44 PM (Dwehj)

Some people have all the luck

Posted by: Barney at December 26, 2015 10:45 PM (jJRIy)

122 They were talking football on "The Five" the other day and Juan Williams refused to use the word Redskins.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 26, 2015 10:45 PM (FkBIv)

123 117: Nurse!

Posted by: Charlie Sheen at December 26, 2015 10:45 PM (dvuhZ)

124 I mistakenly texted "all" some of my, um, "E.R. X-rays." Please delete.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at December 26, 2015 10:46 PM (/ciMI)

125 I hate smurfs, never thought Sam Worthington was a good actor, and was wanting them all to die.
Posted by: WOPR at December 26, 2015 10:13 PM (LTDSy)

I went to see Avatar in 3D as my brother was hooked on it and didn't want to go see it alone for the 7th or 8th time (Think he might have wound up seeing it in the double digits in the theater, not positive)

I spent the whole movie thinking all the actors were CGI, not just the smurfs- and felt the technology just didn't quite make them look life like...

Posted by: Bete not feeling the spirit of the season at December 26, 2015 10:46 PM (Ojki1)

126 rickl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCBE8ocOkAQ

I know what you're linking to without looking. And it was amazing.

I should have specifically said "NASA."

Posted by: mindful webworker - one of these days, Alice, *pow*... at December 26, 2015 10:46 PM (ACs58)

127
So, it's supposed to be minus 3 degrees here tonight. I don't get that. How can you have a negative number of degrees?

First of all, there is an absolute zero (besides the one who occupies the WH), so there is no truly "negative temperature".

However, the negative degrees we commonly hear about are due to the commonly used temperature scales having been defined by the melting and boiling points of water at one atmosphere pressure, and these phenomena occur many hundreds of degrees above absolute zero.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 26, 2015 10:47 PM (BK3ZS)

128 I'd bet that the main hospital in San Franpsycho has an entire ward dedicated to foreign objects lodged in rectums.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 26, 2015 10:47 PM (/FOB4)

129 Does anyone want to win the NFC east this year? To win the east means you get to play exactly one extra game before starting your off season.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 26, 2015 10:47 PM (kTF2Z)

130 All four rotors spin but it does not generate lift from one of them. One side will lift up but the other will drag. Knowing my son, he broke something when he tried to replace the rotor/prop when I wasn't around.
Posted by: CDR M at December 26, 2015 10:39 PM (SCx0h)

*****

He probably put a rotor on upside down or used the wrong rotor. They have a very specific rotation pattern that must be followed. Every other motor has to be set to the counter pitch to the one next to it.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 26, 2015 10:47 PM (YLidQ)

131 122
They were talking football on "The Five" the other day and Juan Williams refused to use the word Redskins.



Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 26, 2015 10:45 PM (FkBIv)


Pretty ballsy for a guy that got fired at NPR and grew up in Panama

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2015 10:47 PM (jJRIy)

132 Webb would hurt the GOP in VA, NCA, and WV; so good for Hilary. I doubt he would do it for anything less than VP.

Posted by: Jean at December 26, 2015 10:48 PM (0xFDy)

133 "110 I'm sure they sanitation worker reference is due to the actor being a black guy. Next meme, you heard"

I thought of that

Posted by: tmitsss at December 26, 2015 10:48 PM (L0IIq)

134 But Reggie's not foreign!

Posted by: president o'bumbles at December 26, 2015 10:48 PM (DLIIY)

135 Gonna pack up and head for the old corral... or something. Before the quarreling starts.

Good night, Gracies.

Posted by: mindful webworker - weather I want to or not at December 26, 2015 10:49 PM (ACs58)

136 I'd bet that the main hospital in San Franpsycho has an entire ward dedicated to foreign objects lodged in rectums.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic

We funded our own hospital.

Posted by: Upscale Frisco Gays at December 26, 2015 10:49 PM (/ciMI)

137 The Eagles are plucking themselves.

Posted by: The Chicken at December 26, 2015 10:50 PM (8aOqE)

138 134
But Reggie's not foreign!

Posted by: president o'bumbles at December 26, 2015 10:48 PM (DLIIY)


Neither is my goat.

Posted by: Reggie, the butt fucker at December 26, 2015 10:50 PM (jJRIy)

139 Winning the NFC East means you get to play a harder schedule next year, too.

Posted by: Jean at December 26, 2015 10:50 PM (0xFDy)

140 You guys are a bunch of sissies. Run to the ER at the least little thing stuck up yer butt.

Posted by: Roxy Raye at December 26, 2015 10:50 PM (dvuhZ)

141 In federal prisons, nearly half the inmates (48.3 percent) are drug offenders. But, as noted, federal jails hold only 13 percent of U.S. prisoners. Rushford points to a study by the Urban Institute which found that 99.5 percent of drug offenders in federal prisons are dealers.

As for the race of drug offenders in federal prison, it depends on the drug they were dealing. 88 percent of the crack cocaine dealers are black; 54 percent of the powder cocaine dealers are Latino; and 48 percent of the methamphetamine dealers are white.

Posted by: Huggy Bear at December 26, 2015 10:50 PM (e8kgV)

142 I'm guessing Murray's fumble did the Birds in, 30 - 17

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2015 10:50 PM (C1Suc)

143 Evening, Horde.

Family is here. Christmas was wonderful. Got a beautiful set of 6 kitchen knives. Raining and getting cold. Hubby's birthday tomorrow.


I hope you all had a wonderful holiday season so far.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 26, 2015 10:51 PM (+eR2D)

144 Man, I STINK!. Look and smell like an old homeless guy.



Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2015 10:51 PM (jJRIy)

145 133 110

Being a sanitation worker not a bad gig. Fresh air, physical activity, don't have to deal with the public, generous Union benefits

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:51 PM (voOPb)

146 My hope is a losing record won't get you 5 night prime time games

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2015 10:52 PM (C1Suc)

147 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 26, 2015 10:47 PM (YLidQ)

That's what I figured. Just haven't gotten around to looking at it closely. It looks like the rotors can only go on one way though so I don't know how he'd get it upside down. The wrong rotor might be it. It came with four spares. Maybe they're numbered.

Posted by: CDR M at December 26, 2015 10:53 PM (SCx0h)

148 Ohmygosh did you guys see the new(ish) Star Wars movie? The podrace scene was amaze-balls! Wizard!

Posted by: Catching up on Star Wars at December 26, 2015 10:53 PM (/ciMI)

149 Dude: Ummm, nurse, one of the rotors on my UAV doesn't seem to be working right.


ER triage nurse: Hand me that remote.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 26, 2015 10:53 PM (NeFrd)

150 ...don't have to deal with the public, ...
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian


Hahn?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2015 10:53 PM (9YDUz)

151 We got into a discussion about negative absolute temperature a little while back during an ONT. It's actually possible and they've done it experimentally. You do the trick of creating an inverted Boltzmann distribution, which you can do with a system that has a finite number of energy states.

Now, it turns out that they way to think of negative temperature is that it is "hotter than infinity" not colder than absolute zero. Turns out 1/T is the better way to think of it. In such a trick system, that quantity can be driven through zero into negative territory. The inverse, T, the temperature then makes an excursion through positive infinity back to negative infinity then approaches zero from the left.

You can get colder than zero, and the other way, can't get hotter than -0. I know, I know. It's quantum trickery.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 26, 2015 10:54 PM (dvuhZ)

152 Wow I just saw that bogus Targeting penalty on Nebraska. That rule is ridiculous. I get player safety. But its bullshit that the refs absolutely blew that call and that player is now ejected. I've seen several other bullshit targeting penalties this year too. I think I've really only seen two that I would agree yeah that's targeting.

Posted by: buzzion at December 26, 2015 10:54 PM (zt+N6)

153 One of those sports clowns who wouldn't say Redskins was at a live radio gig at a bar near me. Every time he said Washington, the crowd yelled Redskins. It was great.

Posted by: Jean at December 26, 2015 10:54 PM (0xFDy)

154 101 92
Chemjeff how in the hell does a 5-7 cornhusker team get invited to a bowl game?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:38 PM (voOPb)
1. bowl inflation
2. they were the best 5-7 team

3. husker fans are awesome
Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2015 10:40 PM (FlPNt)


1a. They were one of the top 5 teams not 6-6 in terms of graduation rate. If you are 5-7, that is how the NCAA says that a team can be invited to a bowl game.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 26, 2015 10:54 PM (Z7G74)

155 What channel is the game on?

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2015 10:54 PM (jJRIy)

156 My in-laws got me a telescope for Christmas. It's pretty awesome--now I just need the damn clouds to go away.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 26, 2015 10:54 PM (/ciMI)

157 Posted by: Upscale Frisco Gays


*****


Hey, I was going to weigh myself with that...

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 26, 2015 10:54 PM (NeFrd)

158 @146 darn markets

Most of the MNF & Thursday nite games sucked. But they play the bigger market teams

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:55 PM (voOPb)

159 Alright, diving back into Battlefront. Knock out a quick 20 minute walker assault.

Posted by: CDR M at December 26, 2015 10:55 PM (SCx0h)

160 #141 Thanks for the link, Huggy Bear. Someone should post it at Reason for laughs.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 26, 2015 10:55 PM (DLIIY)

161 ESPN & NFL network Nip

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:56 PM (voOPb)

162 free livestream for eagles/skins... http://tinyurl.com/jrsqbvn

Posted by: The Chicken at December 26, 2015 10:56 PM (8aOqE)

163 Quick 20 minutes lol

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:57 PM (voOPb)

164 Picture of the tornado that hit Garland, Rowlett, and other suburbs of Dallas earlier tonight. The picture was taken from Rockwall Harbor on Lake Ray Hubbard. The tornado is illuminated by lightning and exploding transformers.

http://tinyurl.com/p2u39r5

It'll be tomorrow before we know the full extent of the damage.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at December 26, 2015 10:57 PM (dPpmC)

165 Thanks for the link, Huggy Bear. Someone should post it at Reason for laughs.
Posted by: andycanuck

That would be a dope trick.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 26, 2015 10:57 PM (/FOB4)

166 163 Quick 20 minutes lol
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 10:57 PM (voOPb)

Less if I'm a stormtrooper on Endor.

Posted by: CDR M at December 26, 2015 10:57 PM (SCx0h)

167 Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at December 26, 2015 10:57 PM (dPpmC)

Michael is your wife okay??

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2015 10:58 PM (FlPNt)

168 Alright, diving back into Battlefront. Knock out a quick 20 minute walker assault.

Posted by: CDR M

Right now I feel I can take on the whole Empire.

Posted by: Dack at December 26, 2015 10:58 PM (/ciMI)

169 Later all.


Endeavor to persevere.


Don't put anything in your rectum. Full stop.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 26, 2015 10:58 PM (NeFrd)

170 @161

Thanks MH. This looks like more fun.




http://tinyurl.com/obm4bdg

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2015 10:59 PM (jJRIy)

171 Thanks for the link, Huggy Bear. Someone should post it at Reason for laughs.
Posted by: andycanuck

That would be a dope trick.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic

Yeah, stop bogarting the links.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 26, 2015 11:00 PM (/ciMI)

172 Videos of the Dallas Tornadoes.

http://tinyurl.com/oqeah46

Posted by: CDR M at December 26, 2015 11:00 PM (SCx0h)

173 Night all, keep safe other DFW 'rons.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 26, 2015 11:01 PM (+eR2D)

174 I had a buddy in college worked at ER. Showed me an X Ray of a guy with a four D cell battery up his ass.



Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2015 11:01 PM (jJRIy)

175 Thx for checking in DG worried about you & RK

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 11:02 PM (voOPb)

176 I had a buddy in college worked at ER. Showed me an X Ray of a guy with a four D cell battery up his ass.


Posted by: Nip Sip

Had to write a paper, thought the batteries would give me the energy to keep going.

Posted by: Name Withheld at December 26, 2015 11:02 PM (/ciMI)

177 174 I had a buddy in college worked at ER. Showed me an X Ray of a guy with a four D cell battery up his ass.



Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2015 11:01 PM (jJRIy)

Was he wearing the Energizer Bunny outfit too?

Posted by: CDR M at December 26, 2015 11:02 PM (SCx0h)

178 174
I had a buddy in college worked at ER. Showed me an X Ray of a guy with a four D cell battery up his ass.





Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2015 11:01 PM (jJRIy)

But were they rechargeable???

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2015 11:03 PM (FlPNt)

179 174 I had a buddy in college worked at ER. Showed me an X Ray of a guy with a four D cell battery up his ass.



Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2015 11:01 PM (jJRIy)

Better than 4 lantern batteries.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 26, 2015 11:04 PM (Z7G74)

180 Ton Brady's balls, dang it! And don't swim in the sea!

Posted by: Sinalco at December 26, 2015 11:04 PM (yODqO)

181 Thx for checking in DG worried about you RK

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 11:02 PM (voOPb)



All good here, big bro. All the big stuff has been NE and SE of us. I believe RK is SW of me, so good chance he is ok as well, but my thoughts are with him nonetheless.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at December 26, 2015 11:05 PM (+eR2D)

182 @178 chemjeff

Snort worthy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 11:05 PM (voOPb)

183 Better than 4 lantern batteries.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper

You heard about that, huh? Whoops!

Posted by: That one Green Lantern who's gay at December 26, 2015 11:05 PM (/ciMI)

184 @12

There are no shades of grey in the constitution.

The Constitution means what it means and says what it says.

The problem is that people would like and want it to say something else but trying to get a consensus that would constitutionally make it say something else is a great hurdle to climb so we get all kinds of bullshittery to magic into existence alternative meanings for what is eminently clear.

If we get a one justice swing on the SCOTUS you will see the day that the 2nd amendment is rendered opposite it's clear meaning.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 26, 2015 11:05 PM (WVvzl)

185 Didn't know there were tornadoes in my neighborhood until I read the ONT. Yikes!

Posted by: Sinalco at December 26, 2015 11:06 PM (yODqO)

186 But were they rechargeable???
Posted by: chemjeff

If he had gone with a solar panel, he could've gotten an EPA and a NEA grant.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 26, 2015 11:06 PM (/FOB4)

187
I had a buddy in college worked at ER. Showed me an X Ray of a guy with a four D cell battery up his ass.





Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2015 11:01 PM (jJRIy)

Still in the mag-lite?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 26, 2015 11:06 PM (T78UI)

188 If I was in charge of the er I would have gave him a light bulb and told him to stick it in his mouth to see if it would light up

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2015 11:06 PM (C1Suc)

189

so here in Houston a strip mall mosque caught fire on Christmas day. Fire Dept says its arson. Imam tells parishoners not to speculate or gossip

I am so jaded. Instead of thinking "good for him", I thought "he knows who did it and he doesnt want the community cooperating"

Posted by: ThunderB at December 26, 2015 11:07 PM (zOTsN)

190 CBS's Frank Luntz sought to gauge the attitudes of an ostensibly ordinary panel of Muslims in America towards Donald Trump. Undeclared to the audience, however, is a professional left-wing agitator seated in the front row who is an alumnus of the Obama Administration.

Linda Sarsour, an anti-American hater of Israel, Islamic supremacist, and regular commentator on left-wing media, was not identified as such when offering her views on Trump. Rather, she was presented as an ordinary Muslim in America.

Recently, Sarsour joined MSNBC's Melissa Harris-Perry in lamenting the media's displaying of images of Tashfeen Malik -- the female half of the Islamic terrorist mass murdering couple in San Bernardino -- in a hijab. Sarsour also recently condemned President Obama's call for the Muslim community to help root out Islamic extremism.

Posted by: Huggy Bear at December 26, 2015 11:07 PM (e8kgV)

191 If I was in charge of the er I would have gave him a light bulb and told him to stick it in his mouth to see if it would light up
Posted by: Skip

But that's my trick.

Posted by: Uncle Fester at December 26, 2015 11:07 PM (/FOB4)

192 Boxing Day Open Thread

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=10636

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 26, 2015 11:07 PM (Z8xbi)

193 If I was in charge of the er I would have gave him a light bulb and told him to stick it in his mouth to see if it would light up

Posted by: Skip


"No, dammit! I said put it your mouth[/]! Why would you put something ELSE in your butt?"

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 26, 2015 11:08 PM (/ciMI)

194 Snort worthy
That's what they say at Reason!

Posted by: andycanuck at December 26, 2015 11:08 PM (DLIIY)

195 Yes, she is, chemjeff. Thanks for asking.

She and her friend were in a store when the lights went out. The employees herded everyone to the back of the store and my wife set up a "prayer station." People lined up so that she could pray with them.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at December 26, 2015 11:08 PM (dPpmC)

196 If I was in charge of the er I would have gave him a light bulb and told him to stick it in his mouth to see if it would light up
Posted by: Skip


Uncle Fester in the E.R.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 26, 2015 11:09 PM (FkBIv)

197 188: Gay Uncle Fester does it all the time. Sticks a light bulb in his ass and it lights up.

Oh the things he sticks up his butt. Thing has has to fetch it out sometimes.

Posted by: Gomez Addams at December 26, 2015 11:09 PM (dvuhZ)

198 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 26, 2015 11:09 PM (YJmuy)

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 26, 2015 11:10 PM (/ciMI)

200 my best friend in college becae a heart transplant nurse. She said the grossest thing she saw were peoples belly buttons. She said one time there was a guy so fat, he had a soybean sprout in one of his fat rolls

Posted by: ThunderB at December 26, 2015 11:10 PM (zOTsN)

201 CBS's Frank Luntz sought to gauge the attitudes of
an ostensibly ordinary panel of Muslims in America towards Donald Trump.
Undeclared to the audience, however, is a professional left-wing
agitator seated in the front row who is an alumnus of the Obama
Administration.

Posted by: Huggy Bear at December 26, 2015 11:07 PM (e8kgV)

And Luntz was rewarded by Obama with a free trip to Hawaii on AF1.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 26, 2015 11:10 PM (T78UI)

202 Why do you think Lurch never smiles?

Posted by: andycanuck at December 26, 2015 11:10 PM (DLIIY)

203 Michael phew that is a relief!

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2015 11:11 PM (FlPNt)

204 202
Why do you think Lurch never smiles?

Posted by: andycanuck at December 26, 2015 11:10 PM (DLIIY)

Because he doesn't have enough batteries up his ass?

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2015 11:11 PM (FlPNt)

205 You have to stick a flashlight up your butt if you want to see the gerbil.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 26, 2015 11:12 PM (FkBIv)

206 Putting stuff in your butt is so yesterday. Now it's totes about scrotes.

Posted by: San Fran Fanny Danny at December 26, 2015 11:12 PM (/ciMI)

207 Sansour is also has a position in the DeBlasio administration in NYC. Diversity Czar or some such thing. She is average like MHPerry is average or Al Sharpton is average

Posted by: ThunderB at December 26, 2015 11:12 PM (zOTsN)

208 202
Why do you think Lurch never smiles?

Posted by: andycanuck at December 26, 2015 11:10 PM (DLIIY)

Being married to a rich bitch is not easy. I know someone that was sitting next to them in a fancy restaurant and they were so disruptive they left.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2015 11:13 PM (jJRIy)

209 Why do you think Lurch never smiles?
Posted by: andycanuck


Re-animated cadavers tend to be depressed.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2015 11:13 PM (9YDUz)

210 You have to stick a flashlight up your butt if you want to see the gerbil.

The ONT. Come for the content, stay for the colon illumination.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 26, 2015 11:13 PM (YJmuy)

211 Iggles are good and toasted. I get an extra jump in my black heart when I see the look of confusion on Chump Kelly's face.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 26, 2015 11:13 PM (Dj0WE)

212 You have to stick a flashlight up your butt if you want to see the gerbil.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.

Thanks for the tip.

Posted by: Richard Gere at December 26, 2015 11:13 PM (/FOB4)

213 She said one time there was a guy so fat, he had a soybean sprout in one of his fat rolls

Posted by: ThunderB

That's what you get for trying to eat healthy.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 26, 2015 11:14 PM (/ciMI)

214 202 Why do you think Lurch never smiles?
Posted by: andycanuck at December 26, 2015 11:10 PM (DLIIY)

Because people keep linking him with John "I served in Vietnam" Kerry I'd imagine. It'd probably have me on suicide watch as a result.

Posted by: Bete not feeling the spirit of the season at December 26, 2015 11:14 PM (Ojki1)

215 andycanuck

As ace would call Gillespie Goth Fonzie

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 11:14 PM (voOPb)

216 on a moronette recommendation from way back I am now watching "Ricki and the Flash", starring Meryl Streep as Linda, who is "Ricki" in that bar band called "the Flash".

Linda is broke and is going home to help out her daughter, who is going through a divorce.

Daughter found Linda's cell phone, which Linda is too dumb to figure out how to lock. She notes that Linda's bandmate is sending her messages with cats and heart emojis. "How long has he been getting it in", she says to her mom.

It really is a moron-friendly movie. (It helps that Ricki doesn't like Barky. Probably why the critics panned it.) Thank you 'nettes for recommending this.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 26, 2015 11:15 PM (6FqZa)

217 She said one time there was a guy so fat, he had a soybean sprout in one of his fat rolls


If they soybean plant had grown he was going to try corn next, 'cause he heard you should rotate the crops.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 26, 2015 11:16 PM (YJmuy)

218 Sansour claims the underwear bomber was CIA

average

Posted by: ThunderB at December 26, 2015 11:16 PM (zOTsN)

219 The ONT. Come for the content, stay for the colon illumination.


Posted by: Blanco Basura

Some people are actually part of a secret society that runs the world--the Backdoor Illuminati.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 26, 2015 11:16 PM (/ciMI)

220 213
She said one time there was a guy so fat, he had a soybean sprout in one of his fat rolls



Posted by: ThunderB


Don't laugh. The massage guys basically told one member no more rubs.



The guy was so fat he could not wash his roll.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2015 11:17 PM (jJRIy)

221 Mr. Plinkett turned his terrible gaze to Avatar and James Cameron as well.

Do all directors grow above and beyond their level of competence? I know that was my theory in ~2004 with Matrix Revolution and Attack of the Clones.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 26, 2015 11:18 PM (VdICR)

222 I like my rolls with butter and some ham or turkey.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 26, 2015 11:18 PM (/ciMI)

223 wow very fast TD from the Huskers, they are leading 27-21 now (but PAT no good!)

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2015 11:18 PM (FlPNt)

224 Sansour made fun of Saudi women protesting for the right to drive

she pointed out they get 10 weeks of paid maternity leave, so they should be quiet about driving

Posted by: ThunderB at December 26, 2015 11:19 PM (zOTsN)

225 Some people are actually part of a secret society that runs the world--the Backdoor Illuminati.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson


Sphintlunkers.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2015 11:19 PM (9YDUz)

226 I grew up in OK, so used to tornados. But tonight I was terrified. I could hear the sirens from Sachse, Garland and Rowlett. Trying to get my elderly Mom downstairs so I could get her into a safe area. Getting my daughter and her three year old into the safe space and realizing that my husband is still not taking any of it seriously.

Luckily tornado missed my street but hit my in-laws and friends house. SMDH. The man told me that tornados never hit big cities. FIL in hospital. MIL staying with SIL. RPD not asked that we wait until tomorrow to assess damage. Going to be a long one.

Not going to analyze why , now that it's quiet, I start reading the ONT while watching the news and weather. Thankful it wasn't worse.

Posted by: Usedtocould at December 26, 2015 11:19 PM (rIQuo)

227 Mr. Plinkett turned his terrible gaze to Avatar and James Cameron as well.

Do all directors grow above and beyond their level of competence? I know that was my theory in ~2004 with Matrix Revolution and Attack of the Clones.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 26, 2015 11:18 PM (VdICR)


I don't think I ever got through that one all the way. He had some nice things to say about it, at least from a technical point of view. Contrasted it with the SW prequels.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 26, 2015 11:19 PM (Dj0WE)

228 Geez Nip

Tmi

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 11:20 PM (voOPb)

229 Posted by: Usedtocould at December 26, 2015 11:19 PM (rIQuo)

Oh my gosh!!!!!! So sorry

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2015 11:20 PM (FlPNt)

230 Sphintlunkers.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2015 11:19 PM (9YDUz)

****

So, so very close.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 26, 2015 11:20 PM (YLidQ)

231 If you haven't heard of her, Look up Roxy Raye, Ass Queen Extraordinaire. You name it, she's stuck it up her butt. On camera.

Wouldn't surprise me if she's rammed a watermelon up there....just to warm up for the really big stuff.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 26, 2015 11:21 PM (dvuhZ)

232 Hell, MH this was 50 years ago!

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2015 11:21 PM (jJRIy)

233 Linda Sansour is buddies with Jeremiah Wright

Posted by: ThunderB at December 26, 2015 11:21 PM (zOTsN)

234 Look up Roxy Raye

---

Nah, I'm okay.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 26, 2015 11:22 PM (/ciMI)

235

Sansour tweeted a picture of a young boy striding toward IDF with a rock in his hand preparing to throw it at them. she captioned it "The definition of courage"

Posted by: ThunderB at December 26, 2015 11:22 PM (zOTsN)

236 @231

Not. Going. Too. Google.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 11:23 PM (voOPb)

237 Sansour tweeted on Dec 15th that Islam empowers women

Posted by: ThunderB at December 26, 2015 11:23 PM (zOTsN)

238 Nah, I'm okay.
No shit.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 26, 2015 11:24 PM (DLIIY)

239 Mr. Plinkett turned his terrible gaze to Avatar and James Cameron as well.

Posted by: BourbonChicken

He also talked about Cameron in his Titanic review. Made the point that there were probably a lot of nice family men in first class, and a lot of the guys in steerage were drunken assholes who beat their wives and neglected their kids, but that's just too nuanced for Cameron's simple class stereotypes bullshit.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 26, 2015 11:24 PM (/FOB4)

240 Sansour tweeted on Dec 15th that Islam empowers women

Posted by: ThunderB

Empower, enslave, potato, potahto.

Posted by: Sansour at December 26, 2015 11:25 PM (/ciMI)

241 NY Slime all upset. Two Black Chicago peoples were killed. One was swinging a baseball bat at the cops at 4:30 AM.




Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2015 11:25 PM (jJRIy)

242 This is a lovely story. I have nothing to add.

https://tinyurl.com/ommqmsl

Posted by: rickl at December 26, 2015 11:25 PM (sdi6R)

243 Sansour tweeted a picture of a young boy striding toward IDF with a rock in his hand preparing to throw it at them. she captioned it "The definition of courage"
Posted by: ThunderB


Courage.

What makes a King out of a slave? Courage.

What makes the flag on the mast to wave? Courage.

What makes the elephant charge his tusk in the misty mist or the dusky dusk? Courage.

What makes the muskrat guard his musk? Courage.

What makes the Sphinx the 7th Wonder? Courage.

What makes the dawn come up like THUNDER?! Courage.

What makes the Hottentot so hot? Courage.

What puts the "ape" in ape-ricot? Courage.

Whatta they got that I ain't got? Courage!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 26, 2015 11:26 PM (FkBIv)

244 Sansour tweeted on Dec 15th that Islam empowers women
Posted by: ThunderB at December 26, 2015 11:23 PM (zOTsN)

****

....to enjoy wearing hefty bags, get stoned to death for being raped, live with arranged marriages....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 26, 2015 11:26 PM (YLidQ)

245 Avatar is one of the two movies that Dr. Mrs. T. and I have actually just given up on halfway through. The other being Pearl Harbor.

With Pearl Harbor we were so bored with the romantic plot in the first half that we were kind of glad when the Japanese finally showed up -- and when we realized that there was going to be EVEN MORE of that goddamned movie after the titular battle, we just took it out of the DVD player and sent it back to Netflix.

Avatar was even more tedious. At no point did it surprise either of us. Finally, around the halfway point, we looked at each other and realized that we both knew exactly where the movie was going and had absolutely no interest in seeing it get there. Back to Netflix it went.

Bear in mind that we both watched Battleship all the way to the end, and actually saw Cowboys Vs. Aliens in the theater. We have very low standards, but Avatar failed to meet them.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 26, 2015 11:26 PM (P0hXG)

246 The Matrix: The difference between a great movie and a cult classic is how palatable the weirdness is. Then the sequel breaks the delicate balancing act, and all the smoke and mirrors is laid bare.

Larry Watchawski became a woman. His appearance is not so much feminine as gangly. He wears pigtails. His fall from grace makes George Lucas look like Citizen Kane.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 26, 2015 11:29 PM (VdICR)

247 239:He also talked about Cameron in his Titanic review.


Ah, Titanic. I could go on and on with my utter loathing of that shitty movie. Kate Winslett's magnificent rack couldn't save it. Another poorly written pile of excrement that won an Oscar. Bah Humbug!!

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 26, 2015 11:29 PM (NGd+i)

248 ".. all the things folks were putting into orifices and then had to go to the ER."
-------------

No. Just, no.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 26, 2015 11:29 PM (n22zQ)

249 I don't feel like Binging it but only about six 1st Class women passengers died. I don't know the count for the other two classes.

And this is Clark McAdams, columnist for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, writing shortly after the sinking of Titanic:

"Votes for women!"
Was the cry,
Reaching upward to the Sky.
Crashing glass
And flashing eye--
"Votes for Women!"
Was the cry.

"Boats for women!"
Was the Cry.
When the brave
Were come to die.
When the end
Was drawing nigh--
"Boats for women!"
Was the cry.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 26, 2015 11:30 PM (DLIIY)

250 Re: Sansour and Islam empowerment of women.

Would like for her to explain, if it's so empowering, why 91% of the Syrian women refugee can't read? Because everyone knows that illiteracy is so empowering.

Fuckwit. Geesh.

Posted by: Usedtocould at December 26, 2015 11:30 PM (rIQuo)

251 Never even saw Titanic. I think maybe Daughter saw it, because she's a girl and stuff. But I had no interest in seeing the real-life heroism and tragedy of that night get subordinated to some boilerplate romance plot about imaginary people.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 26, 2015 11:31 PM (P0hXG)

252 Usedtocould at December 26, 2015 11:19 PM (rIQuo)

Prayers for your FIL and all of your family.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at December 26, 2015 11:31 PM (dPpmC)

253 Islam was very empowering for the girls forced to reenter a burning building because they were uncovered.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 26, 2015 11:32 PM (FkBIv)

254

anyway

Sansour is friends with Jeremiah Wright, a frequent guest of DeBlasio and Obama, thinks the underwear bomber was a CIA operative, make heros out of terrorists, makes fun of Islamic women who want more freedom, and affiliates with BLM but says NOTHING about the discrimination against blacks in Arab countries

maybe she is average

Posted by: ThunderB at December 26, 2015 11:33 PM (zOTsN)

255 Fuck that made-up Kwanzaa bullshit, fuck TFG trying to portray it as fundamentally American, and fuck TFG specifically. The words to express my disgust toward that vile, loathesome piece of animated excrement haven't been invented yet.

On the other hand, I hope the Horde had as good a Christmas as possible under the varying individual circumstances. I am tired and cranky and very unhappy and going to try to sleep now. Goodnight.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 26, 2015 11:33 PM (kpqmD)

256 251 Never even saw Titanic. I think maybe Daughter saw it, because she's a girl and stuff. But I had no interest in seeing the real-life heroism and tragedy of that night get subordinated to some boilerplate romance plot about imaginary people.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 26, 2015 11:31 PM (P0hXG)


I loved it. The ship was the real star of the movie as far as I was concerned, and they did a great job bringing her back to life.

Posted by: rickl at December 26, 2015 11:34 PM (sdi6R)

257 thats the scarey thing. He thoughts are hopelessly average, for a muslim

Posted by: ThunderB at December 26, 2015 11:34 PM (zOTsN)

258 Would like for her to explain, if it's so empowering, why 91% of the Syrian women refugee can't read?


Well thats an easy question. The Jooooossssss.....
or maybe climate change or something.

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 26, 2015 11:35 PM (NGd+i)

259 wasnt Kwanza the creation of a black activist who was also an FBI informant?

Posted by: ThunderB at December 26, 2015 11:36 PM (zOTsN)

260 Re: islam empowering women.
That dummy probably believes it does since all leftist groups empower their members in the same way. Islam empowers women to do whatever their owners want them to do. The feminist movement empowers women to do whatever the feminazis want them to do. The racial industry empowers their members to do whatever the racists want them to do...

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 26, 2015 11:36 PM (/FOB4)

261 Watching A-Team right now. Weekends are great.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 26, 2015 11:36 PM (/ciMI)

262 Happy 4 th of July!

Posted by: steve Harvey Motha Fucka at December 26, 2015 11:36 PM (LYCUN)

263 wasnt Kwanza the creation of a black activist who was also an FBI informant?
Posted by: ThunderB

anncoulter.com/columns/2015-12-23.html

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 26, 2015 11:38 PM (/FOB4)

264 Fun Kwanza poem here...
http://spectator.org/articles/50778/kwanza-komedy

And a full roundup of the b.s. here:
http://www.fivefeetoffury.com/?s=kwanzaa

Posted by: andycanuck at December 26, 2015 11:38 PM (DLIIY)

265 ann Coulter on the creator of Kwanzaa

I will not be shooting any Black Panthers this week because I am Kwanza-reform, and we are not that observant. Kwanzaa, celebrated exclusively by white liberals, is a fake holiday invented in 1966 by black radical/FBI stooge, Ron Karenga -- aka Dr. Maulana Karenga, founder of United Slaves, the violent nationalist rival to the Black Panthers. In the annals of the American '60s, Karenga was the Father Gapon, pawn of the czarist police.

Posted by: ThunderB at December 26, 2015 11:38 PM (zOTsN)

266 Re: islam empowering women.>>>

We let them wear bomb vests so that is very empowering.

Posted by: Jihadi at December 26, 2015 11:39 PM (wHX4r)

267 #259 Yes, ThunderB. It's all enumerated in my second link in #264.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 26, 2015 11:39 PM (DLIIY)

268 I like Kwanza.

Posted by: President Barry at December 26, 2015 11:41 PM (LYCUN)

269 252

Thank you. Could have been worse. We'll see what damage was done to house tomorrow.

The Horde is my escape valve. Sad, sad, sad.

Posted by: Usedtocould at December 26, 2015 11:41 PM (rIQuo)

270 Yes, ThunderB. It's all enumerated in my second link in #264.
Posted by: andycanuck

I've found a penumbra emanating from your enumerated link.

Posted by: Sandra Dayo Connor at December 26, 2015 11:42 PM (/FOB4)

271 is that a penumbra emanating or are you glad to see me?

Posted by: ThunderB at December 26, 2015 11:43 PM (zOTsN)

272 I've found a penumbra emanating from your enumerated link.

Posted by: Sandra Dayo Connor

I think that's just the Chipotle you ate earlier, ma'am.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 26, 2015 11:44 PM (/ciMI)

273
I've found a penumbra emanating from your enumerated link.


It's a tax!

Posted by: Chief Justice Roberts at December 26, 2015 11:44 PM (LYCUN)

274 Turd, I love it when a plan comes together

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 11:45 PM (voOPb)

275 I like Kwanza.
Posted by: President Barry
-------

That's a Hawaiian word, right?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 26, 2015 11:45 PM (n22zQ)

276 Hail to the Redskins, Hail Victory!!! Congrats Redskins. You won the NFC East. Someone had too and it was you guys. Dayshift will be happy when they get in tomorrow morning. They are Redskins fans.

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 26, 2015 11:45 PM (NGd+i)

277
I loved it. The ship was the real star of the movie as far as I was concerned, and they did a great job bringing her back to life.
Posted by: rickl at December 26, 2015 11:34 PM (sdi6R)


It really depends on what you can compartmentalize (pun? intended?), and what you can't. Ultimately, to me the failure is the main driving point of the story, which is to find the necklace, turns out to be, not a wild goose chase, but a rotten no-good dirty trick, played on the audience AND the characters.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 26, 2015 11:45 PM (Dj0WE)

278 When human comedians are no longer funny, because of the PC, cat comedians will take up the slack and become MUCH MORE funny.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 26, 2015 11:46 PM (B8JRQ)

279 cat comedians will take up the slack and become MUCH MORE funny.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm
--------------

My cat already pretty much finds me contemptuous. Still, I can't complain, you should hear what he says about the dog.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 26, 2015 11:47 PM (n22zQ)

280 Redskins, Redskins. It's a call out.
Tomorrow we'll see who bends over with TFG
and who does not.


Posted by: Ralph at December 26, 2015 11:48 PM (8yZ+3)

281 Hail to the Redskins, Hail Victory!!! Congrats Redskins. You won the NFC East. Someone had too and it was you guys. Dayshift will be happy when they get in tomorrow morning. They are Redskins fans.
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 26, 2015 11:45 PM (NGd+i)


Redskinnies get to host the inevitable march of the Seasquawks toward another Super Bowl.


Yes, as much as I hate Seattle (football team, and nearly everything else about the place), I think those jerks will make another run at it this year.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 26, 2015 11:48 PM (Dj0WE)

282 I'm surprised the postal carriers haven't weaseled a way to have Kwanza off.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 11:48 PM (voOPb)

283 Turd, I love it when a plan comes together

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 26, 2015 11:48 PM (/ciMI)

284
Re: the cat/candle video, I would have guessed kittys to be more flammable.

Posted by: irright at December 26, 2015 11:51 PM (DtNNC)

285 I'm surprised the postal carriers haven't weaseled a way to have Kwanza off.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love

That's plank 38(c) on my platform, because my father was a postal worker.

Posted by: John Kasich at December 26, 2015 11:51 PM (/FOB4)

286 Ted is the man!

Posted by: Fox~News at December 26, 2015 11:51 PM (8yZ+3)

287 I'm glad Nebraska is doing well.
I'm a big 10 fan
But 5-7 oh well
It is football & shortly it will be done

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 11:52 PM (voOPb)

288 It really depends on what you can compartmentalize
(pun? intended?), and what you can't. Ultimately, to me the failure is
the main driving point of the story, which is to find the necklace,
turns out to be, not a wild goose chase, but a rotten no-good dirty
trick, played on the audience AND the characters.


Posted by: BurtTC at December 26, 2015 11:45 PM


That Rose character was a total psycho bitch.

Posted by: otho at December 26, 2015 11:52 PM (EWg9n)

289 The funniest shit about Kwazza? All the shit is in fake Swahili.




An EAST African language. All the Blacks in the US? From WEST Africa.




You can not make this stupid up

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2015 11:52 PM (jJRIy)

290 That's plank 38(c) on my platform, because my father was a postal worker.

Posted by: John Kasich

I'm sorry, I don't think we've met. You're a...carpenter? Platform maker?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 26, 2015 11:52 PM (/ciMI)

291 281: I'm a huge Steelers fan so I'm hoping the defense holds it together because that offense is championship caliber. I live just across the river from DC so I kind of like the Redskins.

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 26, 2015 11:52 PM (NGd+i)

292 That was a Freudian.

Jeb it the man!

Posted by: Fox~News at December 26, 2015 11:53 PM (8yZ+3)

293 But they have Nip

And we live in stupid times.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 11:55 PM (voOPb)

294 I'm sorry, I don't think we've met. You're a...carpenter? Platform maker?
Posted by: Turd Ferguson

Actually, I'm running for President because my father was a postal worker. I have 0.5% support of Republican voters. I was also a governor apparently, but mostly my father delivered letters.

Posted by: John Kasich at December 26, 2015 11:56 PM (/FOB4)

295 White folks always doing the ancestry tree thing
One would think blacks would be interested in knowing what tribe they came from.

Hmm, guess they are not that curious.


Posted by: Ralph at December 26, 2015 11:56 PM (8yZ+3)

296 @293



Are there no grown up Black leaders? I mean seriously the president of our country is flogging a fake holiday? The PO has fake stamps.




It is pretty embarrassing.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2015 11:57 PM (jJRIy)

297 That Rose character was a total psycho bitch.
Posted by: otho at December 26, 2015 11:52 PM (EWg9n)


Yes, almost redeemed by the aforementioned awesome knockers when she was young. The shriveled up old foop, not so much.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 26, 2015 11:58 PM (Dj0WE)

298 I expect my Packers to limp into the playoffs. Lose their playoff game and do nothing in the off season to address their weaknesses. Because Ted F*cking Thompson believes he can draft his way to a championship. As Aaron Rodgers continues to age

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 26, 2015 11:59 PM (voOPb)

299 Actually, I'm running for President because my father was a postal worker. I have 0.5% support of Republican voters. I was also a governor apparently, but mostly my father delivered letters.

Posted by: John Kasich

Oh. Well, good luck, and congrats on having a mother knocked up by a mailman.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 26, 2015 11:59 PM (/ciMI)

300 One would think blacks would be interested in knowing what tribe they came from.

Their history has been erased by whitey.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 26, 2015 11:59 PM (FkBIv)

301 Their history has been erased by whitey.



Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 26, 2015 11:59 PM (FkBIv)

DNA bitches. They can find out what tribe they came from.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2015 12:00 AM (jJRIy)

302 Blacks do go on ancestry.com or whatever, don't be an ass.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 27, 2015 12:00 AM (VdICR)

303 Well there is that stupid dan test you can take. I've seen enough damn tv commercials for 23 or whatever it is called

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 27, 2015 12:02 AM (voOPb)

304 I'm just glad my Raiders won more than 3 games this season. All I wanted to see was improvement.

I predicted 6-10. Glad I was wrong.

Sucks not going to the postseason after 13 years...it really sucks...

get some corners and a running back that's a bruiser, maybe next year.

Posted by: SMFH at December 27, 2015 12:02 AM (ahx2/)

305 Well there is that stupid dan test
-------------------

I don't think I want to know if I am a Stupid Dan.

;-)

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 27, 2015 12:03 AM (n22zQ)

306 Bert, there are obvious phenotype differences.
Some old National Geographics would be a start.






Posted by: Ralph at December 27, 2015 12:04 AM (8yZ+3)

307 Well there is that stupid dan test
-------------------

I don't think I want to know if I am a Stupid Dan.

;-)

Posted by: Mike Hammer

I'm stupid of the second Dan.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson, Karate Idiot at December 27, 2015 12:05 AM (/ciMI)

308 201 CBS's Frank Luntz sought to gauge the attitudes of
an ostensibly ordinary panel of Muslims in America towards Donald Trump.
Undeclared to the audience, however, is a professional left-wing
agitator seated in the front row who is an alumnus of the Obama
Administration.

Posted by: Huggy Bear at December 26, 2015 11:07 PM (e8kgV)

And Luntz was rewarded by Obama with a free trip to Hawaii on AF1.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 26, 2015 11:10 PM (T78UI)


Luntz took his dunces from Fox to CBS?

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at December 27, 2015 12:05 AM (Z7G74)

309 Yes, almost redeemed by the aforementioned awesome knockers when she was young. The shriveled up old foop, not so much.


Posted by: BurtTC at December 26, 2015 11:58 PM


Yeah, almost. But not even her boobs could make up for what a deranged bitch she was. Everything she did was fucked up and everybody she associated with got fucked over in some way by her bullshit. I've said it before... but, Billy Zane was right. The bitch didn't need "love", she needed discipline.

Posted by: otho at December 27, 2015 12:05 AM (EWg9n)

310 There's no Krampus equivalent for Kwanzaa. It's not a holiday I can get behind, unless it has a bloody and horrifying Pagan origin.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 27, 2015 12:06 AM (VdICR)

311 Some old National Geographics would be a start.

Posted by: Ralph

If you want to see some boobies, there are other thing besides National Geographic these days.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 27, 2015 12:07 AM (/FOB4)

312 MH,

I bought the 23 and me test years ago. The FDA won't let them tell you much, but everything I got back confirmed what I knew about my family.




It's sort of cool. Use to be cheap, not now.



They told me I had brown eyes. Da huh.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2015 12:07 AM (jJRIy)

313 Rose who?

Posted by: Ralph at December 27, 2015 12:07 AM (8yZ+3)

314 Well, hell. It's December 27th, and my A/C just came on. I've got the heat pump thermostat on automatic, heat and cool as needed, and the damn A/C just came on. I thought it was getting stuff, and the inside temp just hit 77F and the thermostat bumped over and turned the A/C on.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 27, 2015 12:08 AM (dvuhZ)

315 DNA

Damn auto spell iPad arrgh

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 27, 2015 12:08 AM (voOPb)

316 310: the founder of Kwanzaa beat his girlfriend with wires. That bloody and horrifying enough?

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 27, 2015 12:09 AM (NGd+i)

317 If you want to see some boobies, there are other thing besides National Geographic these days.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic

Sorry, can't help you anymore.

Posted by: Playboy at December 27, 2015 12:09 AM (/ciMI)

318 The funniest shit about Kwazza? All the shit is in fake Swahili.




An EAST African language. All the Blacks in the US? From WEST Africa.




You can not make this stupid up


Posted by: Nip Sip at December 26, 2015 11:52 PM (jJRIy)

Back when they invented this shiite, Swahili was probably the only African language commonly taught in US universities.Gotta work work what you have...

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 27, 2015 12:09 AM (T78UI)

319 So is the founder of Kawazzi God of the holiday?




Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2015 12:10 AM (jJRIy)

320 the founder of Kwanzaa beat his girlfriend with wires. That bloody and horrifying enough?
Posted by: Puddleglum@work

Piker.

Posted by: Joan Crawford at December 27, 2015 12:10 AM (/FOB4)

321 DNA test might say you are a son of a mail man.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 27, 2015 12:10 AM (FkBIv)

322 295 White folks always doing the ancestry tree thing

One would think blacks would be interested in knowing what tribe they came from.

Hmm, guess they are not that curious.

Posted by: Ralph at December 26, 2015 11:56 PM (8yZ+3)



Srsly? For all too many of them, any genealogical investigations would come a-cropper at figuring out who Dad was.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 27, 2015 12:10 AM (oKE6c)

323 Side bar, that anti-sweet tooth treatment sounds great, I think I have that pretty much all the time. Eve as a kid mom would offer me a cookie or veggies and I took the veggies.

Of course there will be some side effects to the treatment. Like nausea, vomiting, water weight gain, lower back pain, receding hairline, eczema, seporiasoriasis, itching, chafing clothing, liver spots, blood clots, ringworm, excessive body odor, uneven tire wear, pyorrhea, gonorrhea, diarrhea, halitosis, scoliosis, loss of bladder control, hammertoe, the shanks, low sperm count, warped floors, cluttered drawers, hunchback, heart attack, low resale value on your home... feline leukemia, athlete's foot, head lice, clubfoot, MS, MD, VD, fleas, anxiety, sleeplessness, drowsiness, poor gas mileage, tooth decay, parvo, warts, unibrow, lazy eye, fruit flies, chest pains, clogged drains, hemorrhoids, dry heaving and sexual dysfunction.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 12:10 AM (39g3+)

324 I could care less about my DNA or my ancestors. I have a hard enough time just dealing with the here & now.

Youngest daughter & stud muff left early last nite. Probably to do with something I said, several times. Oh well

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 27, 2015 12:11 AM (voOPb)

325 Hmm, guess they are not that curious.




Posted by: Ralph at December 26, 2015 11:56 PM (8yZ+3)

They know most of it is lost and if they do the genetics thing they are half english...

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 27, 2015 12:11 AM (T78UI)

326 the founder of Kwanzaa beat his girlfriend with wires. That bloody and horrifying enough?
Posted by: Puddleglum@work


Burned her with a soldering iron. In her mouth.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 27, 2015 12:11 AM (FkBIv)

327 Well, hell. It's December 27th, and my A/C just came on. I've got the heat pump thermostat on automatic, heat and cool as needed, and the damn A/C just came on. I thought it was getting stuff, and the inside temp just hit 77F and the thermostat bumped over and turned the A/C on.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 27, 2015 12:08 AM (dvuhZ)

****

Here in the NW ATL Burbs, had to turn on the AC when cooking yesterday. A fan is currently running in the basement of the house. Strange times.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 12:12 AM (YLidQ)

328 Jay, are you saying Hallmark has a busy Father's Day card season?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 27, 2015 12:13 AM (voOPb)

329 Srsly? For all too many of them, any genealogical investigations would come a-cropper at figuring out who Dad was.


Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 27, 2015 12:10 AM (oKE6c)

Wait, you mean my mom's next door neighbor was really my dad?


Well, yes he was

Posted by: Jesse Jackson, sr at December 27, 2015 12:13 AM (jJRIy)

330 Shaun King has made a proclamation designed to get the Black Lives Matter crew off his back: pictures of Jesus promote white supremacy.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 12:13 AM (39g3+)

331 Friend of mine in college also worked in ER. He told us about a guy who stuck his dick in a vacuum cleaner, not the hose part, but the part with the motor and the fan.

Posted by: CMU VET at December 27, 2015 12:13 AM (ejB0r)

332
304 I'm just glad my Raiders won more than 3 games this season. All I wanted to see was improvement.

I predicted 6-10. Glad I was wrong.

Sucks not going to the postseason after 13 years...it really sucks...

get some corners and a running back that's a bruiser, maybe next year.

Posted by: SMFH at December 27, 2015 12:02 AM (ahx2/)



Howdy, howdy!!! Near as I could tell looking at maps, the recent unpleasant weather was well to your north. Hope that was the case.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 12:13 AM (EzgxV)

333 @326 maybe she shouldn't have said anything about his driving



I keed I keed

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 27, 2015 12:14 AM (voOPb)

334 We get a lot of people at my library asking for help with their genealogy, white, black, whatever. People want to know where they come from, as well as they can.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 27, 2015 12:14 AM (/ciMI)

335 Yeah, almost. But not even her boobs could make up for what a deranged bitch she was. Everything she did was fucked up and everybody she associated with got fucked over in some way by her bullshit. I've said it before... but, Billy Zane was right. The bitch didn't need "love", she needed discipline.
Posted by: otho at December 27, 2015 12:05 AM (EWg9n)


Weeeelll, as much as I enjoy a little light misogyny on the internet, he was essentially buying her, and thought that gave him the right to smack her around at his leisure.


So yeah, this is where I get off the bridge. I'm not going down with that ship.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2015 12:15 AM (Dj0WE)

336 That final thing with the necklace being the icing on the psycho bitch cake. Just fucking give it to Bill Paxton if you don't want it. But, noooooo... she chucks it overboard.

Posted by: otho at December 27, 2015 12:15 AM (EWg9n)

337 I can help.


Posted by: Alex Haley at December 27, 2015 12:15 AM (8yZ+3)

338 The funniest thing about Kwanzaa (sp who cares) was In Living Color doing a Magic Johnson impersonation of him stumbling through the syntax of all its symbols. Not PC today.

Posted by: Auscolpyr at December 27, 2015 12:15 AM (Ht/4p)

339 326:Burned her with a soldering iron. In her mouth.


Thanks. I was trying to remember what he did. I knew he abused her and I thought it was a beating with cables or something. Either way, a swell guy.

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 27, 2015 12:15 AM (NGd+i)

340 Friend of mine in college also worked in ER. He told us about a guy who stuck his dick in a vacuum cleaner, not the hose part, but the part with the motor and the fan.
Posted by: CMU VET

Converted to Judaism but could't afford a mohel?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 27, 2015 12:16 AM (/FOB4)

341 Shaun King has made a proclamation designed to get the Black Lives Matter crew off his back: pictures of Jesus promote white supremacy.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 12:13 AM (39g3+)

****

Perhaps he would like to put up a comparison set of pics, Jesus and Mohammed, on his own website? Surely this would placate everybody and end very well.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 12:16 AM (YLidQ)

342 SMFH I've always liked the raiders even back in the days of the AFL. Packers 1 Raiders 2

Hope they get what they need.
There are signs of a good team to be

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 27, 2015 12:17 AM (voOPb)

343 The sad thing about the Black community since LBJ's welfare is that there is a huge incentive for having children out of wedlock.





Sen Moynihanen , D NY, wrote about it in the 70's




http://tinyurl.com/o6t6oa2

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2015 12:17 AM (jJRIy)

344 Is Kwanzaa even a thing any more? Nobody even talks about it the last couple years. I think everyone realized it was stupid and contrived.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 12:17 AM (39g3+)

345 I'm just glad my Raiders won more than 3 games this season. All I wanted to see was improvement.

I predicted 6-10. Glad I was wrong.

Sucks not going to the postseason after 13 years...it really sucks...

get some corners and a running back that's a bruiser, maybe next year.
Posted by: SMFH at December 27, 2015 12:02 AM (ahx2/)


I am wondering what the thinking is there in Oakland (or wherever the Raiders call home these days). In St. Louis, all anyone wants to talk about, it seems, is the jerkwad owner of the Rams ripping the team out of town, and taking them to LA.


Even though the city and state appear to be doing everything in their power to keep that from happening. The mood is sour, and yet when I compare what St. Louis is doing with Oakland (and San Diego), it doesn't seem to make any sense moving this team to LA, while the Raiders and Chargers founder in their hometowns.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2015 12:18 AM (Dj0WE)

346 pictures of Jesus promote white supremacy.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor



What does pretending your black promote?

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 27, 2015 12:18 AM (NGd+i)

347 And here I sit, every hour or so, it seems Niagara Falls is poured down on my house.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2015 12:19 AM (Dj0WE)

348 312 MH,

I bought the 23 and me test years ago. The FDA won't let them tell you much, but everything I got back confirmed what I knew about my family.




It's sort of cool. Use to be cheap, not now.



They told me I had brown eyes. Da huh.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2015 12:07 AM (jJRIy)




Of course, you also just put your DNA data in the hands of a company run by the wife of Google co-founder Sergey Brin, who would certainly have nothing to do with misusing that data....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 12:19 AM (EzgxV)

349 RE that list of Obama's constitutional violations... just this year... just two thoughts.

1) He's going to top it next year.
2) The constitution is a relic, its a tattered old rag nobody even pretends to follow any more. Neither party gives a crap about it except as a bludgeon to hit the other party with, not to follow or obey. Its pointless to even talk about people being unconstitutional. Its utterly irrelevant now.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 12:20 AM (39g3+)

350 And here I sit, every hour or so, it seems Niagara Falls is poured down on my house.
Posted by: BurtTC


Good thing it isn't coming down as snow.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 27, 2015 12:20 AM (FkBIv)

351 Since we're sharing stories that make you cross your legs tightly, a friend of mine's father developed a condition with his foreskin when he was in, I guess his early '50s. He had to have it whacked off.

It required stitches. The doc warned him about getting, uh "excited". Well that's like saying "don't think about X". He got excited and describe the pain that resulted as so intense he feared he'd never get "excited again", so burned in his memory was the pain.

I wonder if they've got a drug they could give, some anti-Viagra, that would prevent that from happening.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 27, 2015 12:20 AM (dvuhZ)

352 Anybody ask Luntz what he knew about the plant?

Either way he comes out covered in shit.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 12:20 AM (MQEz6)

353 Of course, you also just put your DNA data in the
hands of a company run by the wife of Google co-founder Sergey Brin, who
would certainly have nothing to do with misusing that data....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 12:19 AM (EzgxV)


Yes, and "John Doe" will still be John Doe. I faked all records.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2015 12:21 AM (jJRIy)

354 And here I sit, every hour or so, it seems Niagara Falls is poured down on my house.
Posted by: BurtTC

Niagara Falls, Frank.

Posted by: Ghost of Christmas Past from "Scrooged!" at December 27, 2015 12:21 AM (/FOB4)

355 The constitution is a relic, its a tattered old rag nobody even pretends to follow any more. Neither party gives a crap about it except as a bludgeon to hit the other party with, not to follow or obey. Its pointless to even talk about people being unconstitutional. Its utterly irrelevant now.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor

Hear hear!

Posted by: Donald Trump at December 27, 2015 12:21 AM (/ciMI)

356 Both the Rams and Chargers were in LA at one time. Chargers started there, then moved to SD. Rams were in LA a long time before moving to St. Louis. Raiders were in Oakland, then LA, then back to Oakland. I think I got that right.

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 27, 2015 12:21 AM (NGd+i)

357 DNA test might say you are a son of a mail man.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 27, 2015 12:10 AM (FkBIv)


My father was male. I don't need a DNA test to tell me THAT!

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2015 12:22 AM (Dj0WE)

358 328 Jay, are you saying Hallmark has a busy Father's Day card season?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 27, 2015 12:13 AM (voOPb)



I'm saying Father's Day is the most confusing day of the year in the ghetto. Also the busiest for Grayhound.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 27, 2015 12:22 AM (oKE6c)

359 "I wonder if they've got a drug they could give, some anti-Viagra, that would prevent that from happening."

Dunno about that, but there's still pics of Helen Thomas on the intertubes...

Posted by: JQ Flyover at December 27, 2015 12:23 AM (044Fx)

360 OK horde, time to head back to bed.


Everyone be safe.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 27, 2015 12:23 AM (jJRIy)

361 I wonder if they've got a drug they could give, some anti-Viagra, that would prevent that from happening.


Posted by: publius

Ecstasy, ironically enough.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 27, 2015 12:23 AM (/ciMI)

362 -
I wonder if they've got a drug they could give, some anti-Viagra, that would prevent that from happening.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 27, 2015 12:20 AM
---------------

Bob Dole also sells those. Bob Dole calls taking them "Being on the Dole".

Posted by: Bob Dole at December 27, 2015 12:23 AM (DtNNC)

363 BurtTC

While it is good & admirable to tax rich people &'give that mony to the poor. It is wrong and disgusting to build stadium for the rich folks sports team built upon the backs of the average citizens.

Say what you want about GB. Lambeau field improvements were voted on & taxed accordingly

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 27, 2015 12:23 AM (voOPb)

364
349 RE that list of Obama's constitutional violations... just this year... just two thoughts.

1) He's going to top it next year.
2) The constitution is a relic, its a tattered old rag nobody even pretends to follow any more. Neither party gives a crap about it except as a bludgeon to hit the other party with, not to follow or obey. Its pointless to even talk about people being unconstitutional. Its utterly irrelevant now.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 12:20 AM (39g3+)

The Imperial Uniparty finds your lack of faith disturbing.


Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 12:24 AM (MQEz6)

365 324: I got into it with my son. Damn ungrateful. Not happy tonite.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 27, 2015 12:24 AM (ucDmr)

366 Niagara Falls, Frank.

Posted by: Ghost of Christmas Past from "Scrooged!" at December 27, 2015 12:21 AM (/FOB4)

Niagara Falls! Slowly I turn, step by step ...

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 27, 2015 12:25 AM (oKE6c)

367 RE that list of Obama's constitutional violations... just this year... just two thoughts.

1) He's going to top it next year.
2) The constitution is a relic, its a tattered old rag nobody even pretends to follow any more. Neither party gives a crap about it except as a bludgeon to hit the other party with, not to follow or obey. Its pointless to even talk about people being unconstitutional. Its utterly irrelevant now.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 12:20 AM (39g3+)

*****

No way. This is giving in, and I utterly reject this statement.

It may seem that bleak right now, and believe me, I understand the sentiment behind it.

I will not give up. I have a 19 y/o daughter. I owe it to her not to quit.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 12:25 AM (YLidQ)

368 A surprise set up by Luntz I thought, now, it seems it was a plant by Luntz.


Posted by: Ralph at December 27, 2015 12:25 AM (8yZ+3)

369 Nite nip hope tomorrow is better

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 27, 2015 12:25 AM (voOPb)

370 Bob Dole also sells those. Bob Dole calls taking them "Being on the Dole".


Posted by: Bob Dole

Oh, for Pete's--just no more "Dole Pole" jokes, dear.

Posted by: Elizabeth Dole at December 27, 2015 12:26 AM (/ciMI)

371 I wonder if they've got a drug they could give, some anti-Viagra, that would prevent that from happening.



A photo of Hillary in a thong will offset a handful of Viagra tablets.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 27, 2015 12:26 AM (oKE6c)

372 Both the Rams and Chargers were in LA at one time. Chargers started there, then moved to SD. Rams were in LA a long time before moving to St. Louis. Raiders were in Oakland, then LA, then back to Oakland. I think I got that right.
Posted by: Puddleglum@work

The Minnesota Lakers moved to LA where they have no lakes, the Houston Oilers moved to Tennessee where they have no oil, the New Orleans Jazz moved to Salt Lake City where they don't allow music...

Posted by: The Beginning narration of BASEketball at December 27, 2015 12:26 AM (/FOB4)

373 Since we're sharing stories that make you cross your legs tightly, a friend of mine's father developed a condition with his foreskin when he was in, I guess his early '50s. He had to have it whacked off.

It required stitches. The doc warned him about getting, uh "excited". Well that's like saying "don't think about X". He got excited and describe the pain that resulted as so intense he feared he'd never get "excited again", so burned in his memory was the pain.

I wonder if they've got a drug they could give, some anti-Viagra, that would prevent that from happening.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 27, 2015 12:20 AM (dvuhZ)


I'm pretty sure saltpeter is a thing. When I was in Basic Training, guys talked about it like it was real. I kinda sorta think it was, that they were putting it in the food.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2015 12:27 AM (Dj0WE)

374 I will not give up. I have a 19 y/o daughter. I owe it to her not to quit.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty

*high five*

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 27, 2015 12:27 AM (/ciMI)

375
367 RE that list of Obama's constitutional violations... just this year... just two thoughts.

1) He's going to top it next year.
2) The constitution is a relic, its a tattered old rag nobody even pretends to follow any more. Neither party gives a crap about it except as a bludgeon to hit the other party with, not to follow or obey. Its pointless to even talk about people being unconstitutional. Its utterly irrelevant now.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 12:20 AM (39g3+)

*****

No way. This is giving in, and I utterly reject this statement.

It may seem that bleak right now, and believe me, I understand the sentiment behind it.

I will not give up. I have a 19 y/o daughter. I owe it to her not to quit.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 12:25 AM (YLidQ)

It is not quitting.

It is recognizing the true set of enemies and the true nature of the fight.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 12:28 AM (MQEz6)

376 364
349 RE that list of Obama's constitutional violations... just this year... just two thoughts.

1) He's going to top it next year.
2) The constitution is a relic, its a tattered old rag nobody even pretends to follow any more. Neither party gives a crap about it except as a bludgeon to hit the other party with, not to follow or obey. Its pointless to even talk about people being unconstitutional. Its utterly irrelevant now.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 12:20 AM (39g3+)

The Imperial Uniparty finds your lack of faith disturbing doesn't give two shits about you stupid backwater flyover hicks and your stupid concerns and reverence for antique toilet paper.


Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 12:24 AM (MQEz6)




FIFY

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 12:28 AM (EzgxV)

377 245 I was glad I saw Battleship just for the black colonel whipping the alien's ass and the old vet crowing, "Oh, boy, someone's gonna kiss the donkey!"

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at December 27, 2015 12:28 AM (Kucy5)

378 I bought the 23 and me test years ago. The FDA won't let them tell you
much, but everything I got back confirmed what I knew about my family.



A friend of mine did that for himself, his wife, and their two kids.


Still trying to figure out why he did the two kids - was he trying to tell us something?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 27, 2015 12:28 AM (oKE6c)

379 Googles Roxy Raye ...

(face melts off like in Indiana Jones)

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 12:29 AM (hVdx9)

380 @367 I have 3 girls 22-29 2 of them voted befor TFG
They know I think less of them for doing it
Quite frankly I'm tired of arguing the 2nd Ammendment in a house where trap league was every week & they toted along.

I was concerned about the LIB hoping it would pass my kids. Now, I don't give a shit.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 27, 2015 12:30 AM (voOPb)

381 IN RE: insertions in the outgoing lane:

Long, long ago, when the world was new and before I became a Peace Officer, I worked for the Hospital Association's in-house security force, and was assigned to a major metro hospital. When males come in with that particular problem, we could always tell when they walked from the entrance to the Triage Desk. Knock-kneed, pigeon-toed, on the balls of their feet. As if they were trying to levitate.

What the docs hated was light-bulbs, which actually were fairly common. The reason they hated them was the sequalae of one breaking while they attempted to remove it.

But my favorite case was a middle-aged, very straight looking businessman type, suit and tie, who came in one afternoon with "the walk". It turned out that he swung both ways, unbeknownst to his wife. He had been engaged in some afternoon delight.

What they found was a jar of Skippy Chunky on the wrong side of the anal sphincter. A copy of that x-ray stayed on a light board in the radiologists lounge for quite a while.

But that was not all. His wife had called the office to reach her husband for something. The secretary told her that she had heard that he was at the ER of our hospital, did not know why. Wife, assuming that hubby dearest had either had a heart attack or was in a car wreck comes roaring into our ER, screaming like a ruptured Bann Sidh wanting to know where he was. Intercepted by us, and the ER staff, it fell to the lowest ranking intern to tell her, before she went to the treatment room: "Lady, your husband's got a jar of Skippy Chunky up his a**.". Kind of a new definition of "scut work".

She went in. It got REAL loud for a short period of time [loud enough that a couple of the deputies from the Sheriff's sub-station that ran the holding cells in the ER came over in case we needed backup], then she left at high speed and high volume. I think she had intentions of contacting an attorney.

Posted by: Subotai Bahadur at December 27, 2015 12:30 AM (5DWVE)

382 It is not quitting.

It is recognizing the true set of enemies and the true nature of the fight.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 12:28 AM (MQEz6)

******

Really? So the answer is to now give up and punt on first down?

No way.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 12:31 AM (YLidQ)

383 Oh man, don't turn safe search off.


Posted by: Ralph at December 27, 2015 12:32 AM (8yZ+3)

384 Really? So the answer is to now give up and punt on first down?

First down. Dude, really? You figure we're just getting started here?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 12:33 AM (39g3+)

385 Yeah, we heard that saltpeter thing in BCT as well. Took me some time to realize that we were just too damned tired.

Posted by: CMU VET at December 27, 2015 12:34 AM (ejB0r)

386 Really? So the answer is to now give up and punt on first down?

First down. Dude, really? You figure we're just getting started here?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 12:33 AM (39g3+)


Yeah, I'm not getting the "first down" thing either. I'm not necessarily saying it's fourth and long, but it's not first down, and frankly, it is awfully discouraging when you look at your "team" and realize 9 or 10 of the other guys on the field with you actually play for the other team.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2015 12:35 AM (Dj0WE)

387 Put the Rams back in Cleveland where they belong.

Posted by: oldbuffalo at December 27, 2015 12:35 AM (/pOl7)

388 First down. Dude, really? You figure we're just getting started here?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 12:33 AM (39g3+)

****

Where do you put us on the field?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 12:35 AM (YLidQ)

389 380: I am just going to quit talking period. To hell with it. It's all bullshit anyway. I don't effin care what anybody thinks.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 27, 2015 12:36 AM (ucDmr)

390
382 It is not quitting.

It is recognizing the true set of enemies and the true nature of the fight.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 12:28 AM (MQEz6)

******

Really? So the answer is to now give up and punt on first down?

No way.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 12:31 AM (YLidQ)

No. It means the Democrats are just one element of a much larger foe. Filling DC with R's is useless, worse than useless. Politicians themselves are just one part of the whole. The MFM, schools, unions, and crony corporations are all on the same team.

The real foe is an enormous power structure that cannot be defeated by voting and signing petitions.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 12:36 AM (MQEz6)

391 Even if it's third-and-hopeless, some of us are still willing to play. Go underdogs!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 27, 2015 12:36 AM (/ciMI)

392 I think there will be a new team.
Possibly a new league.


Posted by: Ralph at December 27, 2015 12:37 AM (8yZ+3)

393 @SenSanders 11h
You have families out there paying 6, 8, 10 percent on student debt but you can refinance your homes at 3 percent. What sense is that?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 26, 2015 10:10 PM (9YDUz)

Uh, Bernie, allow me to explain to you the concept of risk....

Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 12:37 AM (C3E0x)

394 and frankly, it is awfully discouraging when you look at your "team" and realize 9 or 10 of the other guys on the field with you actually play for the other team.
Posted by: BurtTC

Ignore that. It's just atmospheric conditions.

Posted by: Bill Belichick at December 27, 2015 12:37 AM (/FOB4)

395 379: You're welcome.

And her father must be so proud of her. Yep, that's my girl.

True story: some little porn whore won an award at their award's show for best, uh, skills like Roxy has, and she actually thanked her parents.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 27, 2015 12:37 AM (dvuhZ)

396 Yeah, we heard that saltpeter thing in BCT as well. Took me some time to realize that we were just too damned tired.
Posted by: CMU VET at December 27, 2015 12:34 AM (ejB0r)


Honestly, I don't think you can necessarily take a bunch of young males, throw them together for 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and just expect them all not to get hard ons.


Now, I don't know, maybe some of those guys were, but of a while there, I wasn't. And I don't think it was because I was too tired.


Honestly, if it is real, it's to prevent guys from trying to use the darned things where they shouldn't. And if you are the military, you probably calculate some number of them who will try, and you do whatever you can to get that number as close to zero as you can.


I can believe it.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2015 12:38 AM (Dj0WE)

397 I figure the score still favors us, even if the opponents have been on a scoring streak for a while.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 27, 2015 12:38 AM (/ciMI)

398 I think the game is rigged and we're walking off the field. The refs are wearing the other side's colors and the coach is consulting with the other side's coach on what plays to run.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 12:39 AM (39g3+)

399 Tired of dribbling for the Washington Generals?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 27, 2015 12:40 AM (FkBIv)

400 Ignore that. It's just atmospheric conditions.
Posted by: Bill Belichick at December 27, 2015 12:37 AM (/FOB4)


Oh, Bill Bellycheck, this is why I can't quit you.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2015 12:40 AM (Dj0WE)

401 I think the game is rigged and we're walking off the field. The refs are wearing the other side's colors and the coach is consulting with the other side's coach on what plays to run.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor

And I think we can still win.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 27, 2015 12:41 AM (/ciMI)

402 Great that the Huskers won. I'll take it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 27, 2015 12:41 AM (4ErVI)

403 So - saw the whole of "Ricki and the Flash"

All told I would have liked to have seen more of Ricki's daughter. Or more of the rest of her old family for that matter...

The screenplay 'resolved' everything with a big rock concert at the end, 80s-style; but I can't say that it earned that resolution.

The stakes are just higher when you're the 57 year old matriarch of a family, than when you're the 17 year old girl going to the prom.

The screenwriter must have been not much older than 17 years old him or her self.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 12:42 AM (6FqZa)

404 >>>I think the game is rigged and we're walking off the
field. The refs are wearing the other side's colors and the coach is
consulting with the other side's coach on what plays to run.
.Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 12:39 AM (39g3+)
<<<



Good for us.
The easier to see our brothers.


Posted by: Ralph at December 27, 2015 12:42 AM (8yZ+3)

405 But we can all still be friends.

I hope everyone will come to the barbecue, whether it's the victory celebration or the Burning Times.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 27, 2015 12:42 AM (/ciMI)

406 Speaking of that DNA testing stuff, I read a cautionary tale about that. Some guy found himself accused of rape. Seems like the cop shop somewhere started running DNA samples against the databases that those DNA places keep. The poor guy was a match.

On further testing, it was proved not to be his, but damn. Imagine that.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 27, 2015 12:42 AM (dvuhZ)

407 No. It means the Democrats are just one element of a much larger foe. Filling DC with R's is useless, worse than useless. Politicians themselves are just one part of the whole. The MFM, schools, unions, and crony corporations are all on the same team.

The real foe is an enormous power structure that cannot be defeated by voting and signing petitions.
Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 12:36 AM (MQEz6)

****

This is what I mean by punting on first down. You come straight out and say they can't be defeated. Therefore, you begin by giving up.

I'm sure what will come next will be bold talk about what the Citizens must do. Gotta remember we have not yet yet exhausted our legal options.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 12:42 AM (YLidQ)

408 - but "Ricki" was better than "Beastmaster", and better than "Battle Beyond The Stars", and better than "Starcrash" - and probably better than "The Force Awakens"

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 12:44 AM (6FqZa)

409 You come straight out and say they can't be defeated

...by voting. That part seems to have eluded you. We're not gonna elect our way out of this.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 12:45 AM (39g3+)

410 Anything you can do I can do more.


Posted by: Roxy Raye at December 27, 2015 12:45 AM (8yZ+3)

411 410: I challenge you to a butt-off

Posted by: Little Anal Annie at December 27, 2015 12:47 AM (dvuhZ)

412 >>> We're not gonna elect our way out of this.<<<

We'll know for certainty next year.


Posted by: Ralph at December 27, 2015 12:47 AM (8yZ+3)

413 Anything you can do I can do more.
Posted by: Roxy Raye


Annie get your light bulb.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 27, 2015 12:47 AM (FkBIv)

414 Anything you can do I can do more.


Posted by: Roxy Raye

I can hold my bowels without a cork. Top that.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 27, 2015 12:48 AM (/FOB4)

415 .by voting. That part seems to have eluded you. We're not gonna elect our way out of this.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 12:45 AM (39g3+)

****

I addressed that in my post. Please go back and read it again.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 12:48 AM (YLidQ)

416 And her father must be so proud of her. Yep, that's my girl.

True story: some little porn whore won an award at their award's show for best, uh, skills like Roxy has, and she actually thanked her parents.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)
****

We live in such a stupid time.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 12:49 AM (hVdx9)

417 Avatar still holds the record for how much booze I had to drink at the Alamo Drafthouse / Cinebarre to get through it. What utter shite that was.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 12:50 AM (6FqZa)

418 We live in such a stupid time.
Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale


Can we vote our way out of it?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 27, 2015 12:50 AM (FkBIv)

419 I ate a smurf and I liked it. It felt so wrong, it felt so right.

Posted by: Gargamel at December 27, 2015 12:51 AM (B3EeS)

420 Even if Ted Cruz is President in 2017 and the House and Senate are still controlled by the gope, ObamaCare will not be overturned.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 12:51 AM (MQEz6)

421 I just googled Roxy Raye. Oh my.

Prospective co-star for "Requiem For A Dream II: Electric Buggeroo", I take it expect?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 12:52 AM (6FqZa)

422 Even if Ted Cruz is President in 2017 and the House and Senate are still controlled by the gope, ObamaCare will not be overturned.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 12:51 AM (MQEz6)

*****

Either lead, follow, or get the fuck out of the way. The choice is yours.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 12:53 AM (YLidQ)

423 Can we vote our way out of it?


Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr
****

(types and deletes several times before giving up)

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 12:55 AM (hVdx9)

424 >>>Even if Ted Cruz...<<<

First step is will we make it pass the GOPe rigging the election. If it's Rubio or Jeb etc you know you're fucked.

If it is Donald or Cruz then they will need support and we will see how it goes.

This is not the first time the US has had its back to the wall.



Posted by: Ralph at December 27, 2015 12:56 AM (8yZ+3)

425 past

Posted by: Ralph at December 27, 2015 12:57 AM (8yZ+3)

426 Even if Ted Cruz is President in 2017 and the House and Senate are still controlled by the gope, ObamaCare will not be overturned.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 12:51 AM (MQEz6)


I truly believe Cruz would be a less popular, and less cooperated with President than Hilary, with the Republicans in Congress.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2015 12:57 AM (Dj0WE)

427 ...by voting. That part seems to have eluded you. We're not gonna elect our way out of this.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 12:45 AM (39g3+)

Very dangerous. You go first.

Posted by: Sallah at December 27, 2015 12:57 AM (gwuVS)

428 420 Even if Ted Cruz is President in 2017 and the House and Senate are still controlled by the gope, ObamaCare will not be overturned.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 12:51 AM (MQEz6)



Unless they're a-feared....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 12:58 AM (EzgxV)

429 Just stupid. Judge upholds Seattle's 'gun violence' tax.

Couldn't one also implement an abortion tax in lieu of banning abortion then by the same logic? Set it to the same amount that the average American generates in incomes for his/her life...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 27, 2015 12:59 AM (5LOno)

430
422 Even if Ted Cruz is President in 2017 and the House and Senate are still controlled by the gope, ObamaCare will not be overturned.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 12:51 AM (MQEz6)

*****

Either lead, follow, or get the fuck out of the way. The choice is yours.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 12:53 AM (YLidQ)

You just do not get it, man.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 12:59 AM (MQEz6)

431 Think Roxy Raye has to check the toilet for her intestines before flushing?

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 12:59 AM (hVdx9)

432 414: Cork? She needs more like a manhole cover, I imagine.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 27, 2015 01:00 AM (dvuhZ)

433 >>>I truly believe Cruz would be a less popular, and
less cooperated with President than Hilary, with the Republicans in
Congress.
.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2015 12:57 AM (Dj0WE)<<<


Oh, fer sure, they wants 'em some Jebbie or Hillary.
Without a doubt.


Posted by: Ralph at December 27, 2015 01:01 AM (8yZ+3)

434 I introduced smurfette, as mole to help destroy the smurfs. Perhaps I should create Islamosmurf instead. Those communist shits will lap that right up, and it will destroy them. Then, we will be in a smurf free paradise.

Posted by: Gargamel at December 27, 2015 01:01 AM (B3EeS)

435 Cork? She needs more like a manhole cover, I imagine.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)

I have a manhole cover named Reggie, but she can't have him.

Posted by: Queen Barry I at December 27, 2015 01:01 AM (/FOB4)

436 You just do not get it, man.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 12:59 AM (MQEz6)

****

*puts chin in hand*

Really, now? Edjumacate me to this school of thought then. Cuz from where I sit, you currently sound like a pearl clutching pussy. Show mw where I am wrong.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:02 AM (YLidQ)

437 431: Don't know about that, but one time the male "talent" for her went missing on set, I hear. She shit him out a few hours later.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 27, 2015 01:03 AM (dvuhZ)

438 This is not the first time the US has had its back to the wall.

Its the first time the US has had its back against the wall with the kind of culture we now, uh, enjoy. In the past there still was a "can do" spirit, a pioneer attitude, the love of freedom over comfort, the view of difficulties as a challenge and an opportunity. Now its just one more reason to cry foul and beg for daddy government to fix everything.

This culture is the problem, not the government, and even if by some act of God we ended up with 100% true blue conservatives in ever single office and judicial position, the culture would still rot out from under them.

Voting will not fix that.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 01:03 AM (39g3+)

439 Oh, fer sure, they wants 'em some Jebbie or Hillary.
Without a doubt.


Posted by: Ralph at December 27, 2015 01:01 AM (8yZ+3)


They are pigs, lined up at the trough, engorging themselves on the slop. I think it's less a question of who they want, and more a matter of what they don't want: somebody who talks about turning off the flow of slop.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2015 01:03 AM (Dj0WE)

440 White folks always doing the ancestry tree thing
One would think blacks would be interested in knowing what tribe they came from.

Hmm, guess they are not that curious.




Posted by: Ralph at December 26, 2015 11:56 PM (8yZ+3)

While wandering through free over the air TV stations some months back, I watched a show which explained that many, if not most blacks cannot trace their lineage back to any tribe because their records were all erased by their masters after being purchased.

Supposedly rare it is or was that someone could go back to the ancestor who was brought here, or beyond.

Just my recollection of the show anyways.

Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 01:04 AM (C3E0x)

441 Damn passed out three for wahilrv

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 27, 2015 01:06 AM (voOPb)

442 I watched a show which explained that many, if not most blacks cannot trace their lineage back to any tribe because their records were all erased by their masters after being purchased.

Why on earth would slave traders even carry documentation of peoples' ancestry across the ocean and hand them out with the slave? That's ridiculous, there was no record, except memory. Slaves were taken from other tribes and sold on the coast, they didn't care where they came from or who they were.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 01:06 AM (39g3+)

443
436 You just do not get it, man.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 12:59 AM (MQEz6)

****

*puts chin in hand*

Really, now? Edjumacate me to this school of thought then. Cuz from where I sit, you currently sound like a pearl clutching pussy. Show mw where I am wrong.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:02 AM (YLidQ)

Calling people names is not helpful.

I vote for people whom I think can help during the inevitable collapse and help during the recovery.

I do not vote for folks thinking that this man or woman is going to help straighten things out.

I urge folks to do the same and to strengthen local organizations and institutions, also to help during collapse and recovery.

It is not giving up. It is new tactics designed for a new strategy.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 01:07 AM (MQEz6)

444 This culture is the problem, not the government, and even if by some act of God we ended up with 100% true blue conservatives in ever single office and judicial position, the culture would still rot out from under them.

Voting will not fix that.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 01:03 AM (39g3+)

****

Goddamnit, then either tell us what your fix is or take a big old cup of STFD and STFU.

There are still options as I mentioned. If you just wanna whine and tremble, save us the time. Good God, I am so sick of pussies on this topic!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:08 AM (YLidQ)

445 >>>Voting will not fix that.<<<

I'm not sure.

If we get past establishment rigging and Trump or Cruz succeeds America will have an opportunity to return to the Constitution.

It will be the last civil opportunity.


Posted by: Ralph at December 27, 2015 01:08 AM (8yZ+3)

446 Goddamnit, then either tell us what your fix is or take a big old cup of STFD and STFU.

First off, calm down.

Second, until you understand that politics follows culture, and you have to fix the culture to fix the politics, you're just going to be raging against the darkness and give yourself an ulcer.

Who you elect at this point doesn't mean a damn thing. The solutions are not at the ballot box. No golden hero is going to arise that fixes it all if only we put them in office.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 01:10 AM (39g3+)

447 Why on earth would slave traders even carry documentation of peoples' ancestry across the ocean and hand them out with the slave? That's ridiculous, there was no record, except memory. Slaves were taken from other tribes and sold on the coast, they didn't care where they came from or who they were.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 01:06 AM (39g3+)


Yeah, I'm kinda scratching my head on that one too. Seems to me, when we talk about records, going back centuries, we're talking about baptismal records and/or marriage/death notices, along with property transfers.


Very very western-like things, those are. Not many repositories for such things in the areas from which slaves were taken, I would assume.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2015 01:11 AM (Dj0WE)

448 Blano, I wouldn't know about American slavery, since I'm an Orientalist and an amateur at that, but I can discuss how slavery worked in Central Asia.

The Bactrians on that Silk Road kept detailed records of the slaves they got. Because if a slave was defective, they wanted to know why. A whole sheaf of Bactrian-language records has turned up and among them were "warranty deeds".

So I'm calling bullshit that American slaveholders wouldn't want to know where their slaves came from.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 01:12 AM (6FqZa)

449 Calling people names is not helpful.

I vote for people whom I think can help during the inevitable collapse and help during the recovery.

I do not vote for folks thinking that this man or woman is going to help straighten things out.

I urge folks to do the same and to strengthen local organizations and institutions, also to help during collapse and recovery.

It is not giving up. It is new tactics designed for a new strategy.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 01:07 AM (MQEz6)

*****

You may call it whatever you wish. I call it giving up and blindly hoping for a better tomorrow. You have ceded the battle and the war, surrendered, and now hope for a more benovelent master. Good luck with that.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:12 AM (YLidQ)

450 It will be the last civil opportunity.

We crossed that bridge in 2012.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 01:12 AM (39g3+)

451 >>>...Why on earth would slave traders even carry
documentation of peoples' ancestry across the ocean and hand them out
with the slave? That's ridiculous, there was no record, except
memory. Slaves were taken from other tribes and sold on the coast, they
didn't care where they came from or who they were.
.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 01:06 AM (39g3+)<<<


The western tribes are segregated. All they need do is look in the mirror then study the tribes. That will get them a lot closer than "we McIntosh's thought we were German till we went to ancestry dot com".





Posted by: Ralph at December 27, 2015 01:13 AM (8yZ+3)

452 African slave-traders, yeah, wouldn't give a shit even if they could read which they largely couldn't.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 01:13 AM (6FqZa)

453 What kind of warranty did you get with a slave?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 27, 2015 01:16 AM (FkBIv)

454 Good night CDR M, morons & every one wlse

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, bamboozled by love at December 27, 2015 01:16 AM (voOPb)

455 >>>It will be the last civil opportunity.



We crossed that bridge in 2012.
.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 01:12 AM (39g3+)
<<<

A 3%'er you are 'eh?


Posted by: Ralph at December 27, 2015 01:16 AM (8yZ+3)

456 First down. Dude, really? You figure we're just getting started here?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 12:33 AM (39g3+)

****

Where do you put us on the field?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 12:35 AM (YLidQ)

We're getting pushed backwards on nearly every play. For every Hobby Lobby play where we might grind out a few yards, the liberal scum keep throwing the long ball because they have 3 or 4 receivers to each of our defenders.

I'd say we've been backed up to our own 20.

Problem is, the liberal scum won't stop if/when they reach the end zone. They'll try to drive us through the tunnel, out of the stadium and into the parking lot, where they will try to finish us off once and for all.

This is why there is no peaceful solution.

Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 01:18 AM (C3E0x)

457 First off, calm down.
Second, until you understand that politics follows culture, and you have to fix the culture to fix the politics, you're just going to be raging against the darkness and give yourself an ulcer.

Who you elect at this point doesn't mean a damn thing. The solutions are not at the ballot box. No golden hero is going to arise that fixes it all if only we put them in office.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 01:10 AM (39g3+)

***

Second off, I understand culture and how it can shift on a dime just fine. I am watching it now with Trump.

Go back and read my earlier posts in this thread. I get tired of having to repeat myself.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:18 AM (YLidQ)

458 The Gullah stayed where they were in the Carolinas and didn't get sold down river, as the saying went. So their English is like the English of Barbadoes to this day. I'd heard that the Gullah retain some full-on African-language nursery-rhymes in places, like the Cumbrians retain some Welsh-language means of counting sheep.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 01:19 AM (6FqZa)

459 Even if it's third-and-hopeless, some of us are still willing to play. Go underdogs!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 27, 2015 12:36 AM (/ciMI)

That's good, but we can't do it ourselves individually. It has to be a nationwide, somewhat coordinated effort. And it involves guns.

Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 01:20 AM (C3E0x)

460 You may call it whatever you wish. I call it giving up and blindly hoping for a better tomorrow. You have ceded the battle and the war, surrendered, and now hope for a more benovelent master. Good luck with that.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:12 AM (YLidQ)

You are wrong.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 01:20 AM (MQEz6)

461 447 Why on earth would slave traders even carry documentation of peoples' ancestry across the ocean and hand them out with the slave? That's ridiculous, there was no record, except memory. Slaves were taken from other tribes and sold on the coast, they didn't care where they came from or who they were.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 01:06 AM (39g3+)


Yeah, I'm kinda scratching my head on that one too. Seems to me, when we talk about records, going back centuries, we're talking about baptismal records and/or marriage/death notices, along with property transfers.


Very very western-like things, those are. Not many repositories for such things in the areas from which slaves were taken, I would assume.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2015 01:11 AM (Dj0WE) 447 Why on earth would slave traders even carry documentation of peoples' ancestry across the ocean and hand them out with the slave? That's ridiculous, there was no record, except memory. Slaves were taken from other tribes and sold on the coast, they didn't care where they came from or who they were.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 01:06 AM (39g3+)


Yeah, I'm kinda scratching my head on that one too. Seems to me, when we talk about records, going back centuries, we're talking about baptismal records and/or marriage/death notices, along with property transfers.


Very very western-like things, those are. Not many repositories for such things in the areas from which slaves were taken, I would assume.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 27, 2015 01:11 AM (Dj0WE)




I believe that would be the point of why people with slave ancestry would be more likely to use genetic testing. Instead of figuring which tribe in Western Africa captured your ancestor in a raid and getting an oral history of that, or looking for receipts from the Arab traders that got your ancestor to the coast, or finding shipping records from the English who ferried your ancestor to the markets of the New World, or locating auction receipts from when your ancestor was sold in New England before the ban, or records from the "Second Inner Passage" when your ancestor was "sold down the river" to the South in anticipation of the ban, finding out what plantation your ancestor was in when emancipated.....you could just find out where your closest cousins were and skip a whole bunch of steps.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 01:21 AM (EzgxV)

462 They'll try to drive us through the tunnel, out of the stadium and into the parking lot, where they will try to finish us off once and for all.

This is why there is no peaceful solution.
Posted by: Blano

So, you are saying they are Raiders fans.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 27, 2015 01:22 AM (3KcdH)

463 Either lead, follow, or get the fuck out of the way. The choice is yours.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 12:53 AM (YLidQ)

So what is YOUR solution, since we allegedly still have so many "legal" options?

Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 01:23 AM (C3E0x)

464 14 minute video of the spaceX thing ... I like at the end when they are cheering, and they break into USA USA USA for several seconds.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX36bG3N7lQ

Posted by: Illiniwek at December 27, 2015 01:23 AM (5Gpe2)

465
Second, until you understand that politics follows culture, and you have to fix the culture to fix the politics, you're just going to be raging against the darkness and give yourself an ulcer.

Who you elect at this point doesn't mean a damn thing. The solutions are not at the ballot box. No golden hero is going to arise that fixes it all if only we put them in office.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor
****

So if I am reading you right, we need to have more people pay attention and of those people, not look to the govt. for answers, but themselves. In fact, we need them to punish those who push the corrupt business as usual. We need people who actually want to do what is right for America, and in large numbers. Lastly, we need people who will not tolerate the PC BS the left has significantly advanced.
Is this your point in changing the culture?

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 01:24 AM (hVdx9)

466 448 Blano, I wouldn't know about American slavery, since I'm an Orientalist and an amateur at that, but I can discuss how slavery worked in Central Asia.

The Bactrians on that Silk Road kept detailed records of the slaves they got. Because if a slave was defective, they wanted to know why. A whole sheaf of Bactrian-language records has turned up and among them were "warranty deeds".

So I'm calling bullshit that American slaveholders wouldn't want to know where their slaves came from.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 01:12 AM (6FqZa)



I would believe that there were good records kept at each stage at the time.....for liability reasons. But with 10-year warranties, how long do you keep warranty records? A century? Two?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 01:24 AM (EzgxV)

467 We're getting pushed backwards on nearly every play. For every Hobby Lobby play where we might grind out a few yards, the liberal scum keep throwing the long ball because they have 3 or 4 receivers to each of our defenders.

I'd say we've been backed up to our own 20.

Problem is, the liberal scum won't stop if/when they reach the end zone. They'll try to drive us through the tunnel, out of the stadium and into the parking lot, where they will try to finish us off once and for all.

This is why there is no peaceful solution.
Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 01:18 AM (C3E0x)

*****

I am not there until an Article V Convention is convened. It is our last hope to do this legally.

Most who condemn this idea think of it as a Constitutional Convention. They need to educate themselves. If this does not work, IMO, all bets are off and Weps free.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:24 AM (YLidQ)

468 Why on earth would slave traders even carry documentation of peoples' ancestry across the ocean and hand them out with the slave? That's ridiculous, there was no record, except memory. Slaves were taken from other tribes and sold on the coast, they didn't care where they came from or who they were.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 01:06 AM (39g3+)

I don't freakin' know, it was one of about 3 times a year I turn the TV on (except for football) and I'm going from memory. Plus I was probably drinking.

Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 01:26 AM (C3E0x)

469 So what is YOUR solution, since we allegedly still have so many "legal" options?
Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 01:23 AM (C3E0x)

****

See 467

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:26 AM (YLidQ)

470 Art V gives the Left and all its buddies access to the source code of the Constitution.

It also relies on folks obeying a new Cnstitution better than they obey the present one.

It is a very bad step to take.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 01:26 AM (MQEz6)

471 So if I am reading you right, we need to have more people pay attention and of those people, not look to the govt. for answers, but themselves. In fact, we need them to punish those who push the corrupt business as usual. We need people who actually want to do what is right for America, and in large numbers. Lastly, we need people who will not tolerate the PC BS the left has significantly advanced.
Is this your point in changing the culture?
Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 01:24 AM (hVdx9)

****

* Golf clap*

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:28 AM (YLidQ)

472 So I'm calling bullshit that American slaveholders wouldn't want to know where their slaves came from.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 01:12 AM (6FqZa)

As I said above, that was the gist of the show. I wouldn't know if it was bullshit either way. I mentioned it for the hell of it, not because I'm some expert, nor for some dissertation I wrote.

Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 01:29 AM (C3E0x)

473 Art V gives the Left and all its buddies access to the source code of the Constitution.

It also relies on folks obeying a new Cnstitution better than they obey the present one.

It is a very bad step to take.
Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 01:26 AM (MQEz6)

*****

As I mentioned very clearly in my post, you are conflating this with a Constitutional Convention. Why, it is almost like people key off of a couple of words and don't read anything else.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:30 AM (YLidQ)

474 They'll try to drive us through the tunnel, out of the stadium and into the parking lot, where they will try to finish us off once and for all.

This is why there is no peaceful solution.
Posted by: Blano

So, you are saying they are Raiders fans.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 27, 2015 01:22 AM (3KcdH)

(glances a few hours south toward SMFH)

No comment.

Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 01:32 AM (C3E0x)

475 458 The Gullah stayed where they were in the Carolinas and didn't get sold down river, as the saying went. So their English is like the English of Barbadoes to this day. I'd heard that the Gullah retain some full-on African-language nursery-rhymes in places, like the Cumbrians retain some Welsh-language means of counting sheep.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 01:19 AM (6FqZa)



Africa has the largest amount of human genetic diversity of all the continents (crucial support to the "out-of-Africa" theory of human evolution). It has also been extremely diverse culturally and linguistically before colonial periods. Certainly there may be pockets where some tribes ended up with many members in Carolina together....but I don't believe that can be extended to any large numbers.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 01:32 AM (EzgxV)

476 If you think an Art V convention cannot be corrupted, you need to open your eyes and wake up.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 01:32 AM (MQEz6)

477 If you think an Art V convention cannot be corrupted, you need to open your eyes and wake up.
Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 01:32 AM (MQEz6)

****

Please explain your position.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:33 AM (YLidQ)

478 In northern Bactria?

Document P, Sims-Williams, p. 82

Contract in the [Sasanian] year 446 the month Ab the day Wahman, here in the district of Samingan, at Marogan... with the cognisance of the god Ram-set, with the cognisance of Zhun-lad of Rob [ed. the khagan of Rob]... there has now been sold by me Yaskul and by me Yazdgird, the sons of Kaw, to you Fanz and to you Windmarg etc etc

There has now been sold by me Yaskul and by me Yazdgird sons of Kaw, etc this boy called Khalas -

So now you [pl] have the right [to do] whatever [it may suit] you [pl] [to do] to keep [him yourselves], to sell, to pawn, to give as gift ... [or] to let free [in return for service] If anyone dispute concerning Khalas with you, Fanz, then I Yaskul or I Yazdgird shall cause release and detached [from the claimant]; otherwise then we shall pay 2:1.


I guess bacha-bazi warranties looked a lot like that, before Islam came, and made the Afghans all civilised

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 01:34 AM (6FqZa)

479 Actually, I'm running for President because my
father was a postal worker. I have 0.5% support of Republican voters. I
was also a governor apparently, but mostly my father delivered letters.

Posted by: John Kasich at December 26, 2015 11:56 PM (/FOB4)


And what did your mother's husband do?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 27, 2015 01:34 AM (H9qVH)

480
468 Why on earth would slave traders even carry documentation of peoples' ancestry across the ocean and hand them out with the slave? That's ridiculous, there was no record, except memory. Slaves were taken from other tribes and sold on the coast, they didn't care where they came from or who they were.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 27, 2015 01:06 AM (39g3+)

I don't freakin' know, it was one of about 3 times a year I turn the TV on (except for football) and I'm going from memory. Plus I was probably drinking.
Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 01:26 AM (C3E0x)


Well I thin it could stand that if records were kept the best you could do is who was the slave brought from Africa what year the ship sold him and maybe the African port/tribe they acquired them from. But yeah I doubt most of those records exist.


However that wouldn't have much connection to the DNA test where I would think they have enough DNA sequences that you can determine which Region and possibly tribe most of ones dna comes from.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 27, 2015 01:34 AM (qabgA)

481 477,

Human Nature.

Intelligent and crafty foes.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 01:35 AM (MQEz6)

482 I am not there until an Article V Convention is convened. It is our last hope to do this legally.

Most who condemn this idea think of it as a Constitutional Convention. They need to educate themselves. If this does not work, IMO, all bets are off and Weps free.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:24 AM (YLidQ)

Article V Convention takes too long. Look how long it's taken to work toward that goal, and look at the shithole the country has turned into in the meantime?

Not to mention the fact that even if one gets called, the fuckup states (Kallyfornia, New York, etc.) can mess with it to no end.

Nice idea, but impractical under the circumstances.

Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 01:35 AM (C3E0x)

483 Bactrian Documents from Northern Afghanistan, I: Legal and Economic Documents by Nicholas Sims-Williams, Oxford University Press, 2000

I photocopied that passage some years back

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 01:36 AM (6FqZa)

484 ... I wonder if Afghanistan will ever be a nice place to visit.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 01:37 AM (6FqZa)

485 If you think an Art V convention cannot be corrupted, you need to open your eyes and wake up.
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If they can corrupt that convention, then we're past the point where the current political arrangements are worth recognizing. We the People are going to have to impose our will on the federal government one way or another.

Posted by: Methos at December 27, 2015 01:37 AM (ZbV+0)

486 473 Art V gives the Left and all its buddies access to the source code of the Constitution.

It also relies on folks obeying a new Cnstitution better than they obey the present one.

It is a very bad step to take.
Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 01:26 AM (MQEz6)

*****

As I mentioned very clearly in my post, you are conflating this with a Constitutional Convention. Why, it is almost like people key off of a couple of words and don't read anything else.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:30 AM (YLidQ)



The entirety of Article V is as follows:



Article V

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.




Really, you think that 2/3 of both corrupt Houses is going to go for that without it being fixed against the People?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 01:39 AM (EzgxV)

487 If you think an Art V convention cannot be corrupted, you need to open your eyes and wake up.
Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 01:32 AM (MQEz6)
****
Please explain your position.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:33 AM (YLidQ)

***If you think an Art V convention cannot be corrupted, you need to open your eyes and wake up.
Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 01:32 AM (MQEz6)

*****

Human Nature.

Intelligent and crafty foes.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 01:35 AM (MQEz6)

******

Damn. Why couldn't I think of a baseless, vapid, inane blowoff of a response like this rather than thinking through stuff and using logic? Bad MWNP! Bad!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:40 AM (YLidQ)

488 Not to mention the fact that even if one gets called, the fuckup states
(Kallyfornia, New York, etc.) can mess with it to no end.
---
How do they mess with it when they only get one vote each?


Posted by: Methos at December 27, 2015 01:42 AM (ZbV+0)

489 Slaves were bought from conquering rival tribes and Arab traders it is doubtful, if any records were kept, that they would be helpful.


Posted by: Ralph at December 27, 2015 01:42 AM (8yZ+3)

490 488 Not to mention the fact that even if one gets called, the fuckup states
(Kallyfornia, New York, etc.) can mess with it to no end.
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How do they mess with it when they only get one vote each?


Posted by: Methos at December 27, 2015 01:42 AM (ZbV+0)



I quoted the entire thing above -- don't see anything about one vote each.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 01:43 AM (EzgxV)

491 Really, you think that 2/3 of both corrupt Houses is going to go for that without it being fixed against the People?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 01:39 AM (EzgxV)

*****

I see it as the last legal option available before very bad things happen. If anyone has any other legal remedies, I 'm all ears. That very especially includes you, Cooth. Whatcha got?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:44 AM (YLidQ)

492 Really, you think that 2/3 of both corrupt Houses is going to go for that without it being fixed against the People?
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No
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or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States
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The state legislatures are going to have to overrule DC and remind them of their place.

Posted by: Methos at December 27, 2015 01:44 AM (ZbV+0)

493 As I mentioned very clearly in my post, you are conflating this with a Constitutional Convention. Why, it is almost like people key off of a couple of words and don't read anything else.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:30 AM (YLidQ)

The entirety of Article V is as follows:

Article V

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

Really, you think that 2/3 of both corrupt Houses is going to go for that without it being fixed against the People?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 01:39 AM (EzgxV)

That sure sounds like SOME KIND of Constitutional Convention to me. Call it what you want, you're messing with the Constitution.

Then you have to get Congress involved. What if the Democrats are in control and they DON'T call a Convention, what are the states gonna do....sue them?? Yeah sure.

Then you have to fight over what amendments will be ratified...how long will that take????

Then you have to submit the agreed upon amendments to the states for ratification....how long will that take??

See my point?? This could go on for decades. In the meantime, the US turns into a fascist shithole.

No thanks.

Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 01:45 AM (C3E0x)

494 Damn. Why couldn't I think of a baseless, vapid, inane blowoff of a response like this rather than thinking through stuff and using logic? Bad MWNP! Bad!
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:40 AM (YLidQ)


The convention eventually boils down to votes. Votes can be tricky things to secure.

Are you sure, for example, that you can keep the Art V focused only onwhat you want? Are you sure the votes you need are really there?

How many turncoats will it take to turn the whole thing into a disaster?

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 01:47 AM (MQEz6)

495 It takes 3/4 of the states to *ratify* what a con-con comes up with. Each state has one equal vote in that.

A con-con could run away all it wanted, but 38 states would have to vote to ratify it.

I'm in the con-con camp now myself. It's the only hope we have. It's a long shot risk, you betcha, but it's the only thing within the system we still have left.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 27, 2015 01:47 AM (dvuhZ)

496 I quoted the entire thing above -- don't see anything about one vote each.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 01:43 AM (EzgxV)

Ok, then who gets how many votes?? Yet another issued that must be resolved?

Again, this process could take decades.

Re: MWNP's question about what other legal options there are, the correct answer is...NONE.

Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 01:47 AM (C3E0x)

497 >>>The state legislatures are going to have to overrule DC and remind them of their place.<<<


If it gets that far the states will hold their ground.


Posted by: Ralph at December 27, 2015 01:47 AM (8yZ+3)

498 I quoted the entire thing above -- don't see anything about one vote each.
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Why in the world would red state legislatures give the backwards blue states any more than one vote each?

Whoever calls the convention gets to set the rules of it, and nothing that comes out of it matters unless ratified by 3/4 of the states.

Posted by: Methos at December 27, 2015 01:47 AM (ZbV+0)

499 Slaves were bought from conquering rival tribes and Arab traders it is doubtful, if any records were kept, that they would be helpful.
Posted by: Ralph


They rolled back the mileage record. You know those tricky Arabs.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 27, 2015 01:48 AM (FkBIv)

500 Then you have to get Congress involved.
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Cooth posted the whole thing so you could read all of it. If the states call the convention, no one in DC has any role in it but to obey.

Posted by: Methos at December 27, 2015 01:50 AM (ZbV+0)

501 A "con-con" would take the wind out of the big blue state majorities sales.

That's why there is so much resistance from the pink and blue establishment.


Posted by: Ralph at December 27, 2015 01:51 AM (8yZ+3)

502 See my point?? This could go on for decades. In the meantime, the US turns into a fascist shithole.

No thanks.
Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 01:45 AM (C3E0x)

*****

Jesus Christ.

No, I don't see your point because the long, slow slide to where we are as a Country began about 50 years ago. You apparently want an instant remedy to that. Not gonna happen.

You want a months long solution to a Decades long problem.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:52 AM (YLidQ)

503 Imagine a gang of Paul Ryans having access to the source code of the Constitution.

Plus, State Legislatures ain't councils made up wise old elves and shiny Jedi.

They are a breeding ground for the shitheads in Congress.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 01:53 AM (MQEz6)

504 Cooth posted the whole thing so you could read all of it. If the states call the convention, no one in DC has any role in it but to obey.


Posted by: Methos at December 27, 2015 01:50 AM (ZbV+0)

That's not how I read it.

The states can demand Congress call it, but Congress has to actually call it.

Does anybody think the Democrats will just sit up and say "oh yeah sure, let's have a Convention that will limit DC's power!!! What a great idea!!"

You don't think they'd drag that out as long as possible, then corrupt the process??

Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 01:55 AM (C3E0x)

505 Re: MWNP's question about what other legal options there are, the correct answer is...NONE.
Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 01:47 AM (C3E0x)

****

That is absolute bullshit, and it has been explained to you why this is so. Stop posting this crap as if it were true, and NEVER associate my name with this kind of spew.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:55 AM (YLidQ)

506 Paul Ryan would have no authority at the convention of states.

And he would have to shave.


Posted by: Ralph at December 27, 2015 01:56 AM (8yZ+3)

507 The left controls the legal system, the schools, and the media.
The GOP is controlled by people who agree more with the left than their constituents.
Both the dems and GOP have spent us into guaranteed collapse while enriching themselves and their cronies.
The majority of the population knows little of what is going on and does not care anyway.
Tell me again how we have not lost?
I'll be buying food, medical supplies, and more guns and ammo while you do.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 01:56 AM (hVdx9)

508 Imagine a gang of Paul Ryans having access to the source code of the Constitution.
---
How do you imagine this is any worse than what we have?

What this all comes down to is what are you willing to do to government to keep it under control? If you won't do the one thing we still can within the current legal framework to at least try to correct the situation, how can you be counted on to do what's necessary when the time comes to fix it the hard way?

Posted by: Methos at December 27, 2015 01:57 AM (ZbV+0)

509 Jesus Christ.

No, I don't see your point because the long, slow slide to where we are as a Country began about 50 years ago. You apparently want an instant remedy to that. Not gonna happen.

You want a months long solution to a Decades long problem.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:52 AM (YLidQ)

Yes it did begin about 50 years ago, we agree on that.

But now the slide has shifted into warp drive. I mean, come on, who the hell thought 50 years ago that 2014 would be the year of the homo football player, and 2015 would be the year of the transgender freak show??

Time is running out, and fast. That's the part that YOU don't seem to get.

(caps does not mean I'm yelling at you, nor am I ticked at you in any way, 'cause I'm not)

Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 01:57 AM (C3E0x)

510 can't we all just get a bong?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 27, 2015 01:59 AM (6FqZa)

511 Perry Christmas two all, and to Allah, good knight.

Posted by: Ronald Raven at December 27, 2015 02:00 AM (B3EeS)

512 That is absolute bullshit, and it has been explained to you why this is so. Stop posting this crap as if it were true, and NEVER associate my name with this kind of spew.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:55 AM (YLidQ)

Since we allegedly live in a free country, I'll associate who with what the fuck I want, since you're writing it.

Second, you just said above an Article V Convention was the last legal hope. So if it's not the last hope now, then what's the other legal options?

Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 02:00 AM (C3E0x)

513 That's not how I read it.
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The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it
necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the
Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States,
shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments
---
Note the word "shall"-they get no choice. If they attempt to exercise choice they invalidate the entire framework and we can move on to 'other means'.

Posted by: Methos at December 27, 2015 02:00 AM (ZbV+0)

514 There have been two nearly successful attempts to call a con-con. The first was back in the '60s in response to the Supreme Court's "one man, one vote" decision that forced to states to redraw their own senate districts among other things so each senate district had the same number of people relative to the others.

Here, it used to be that each county had one vote in the state senate. But nope. But hell, with the federal constitution, it's two votes per state, so why the hell can't the states do the same. The Court said that was explicitly in the Constitution for the federal Senate, but the same constitution mandated the states not do that with their own senates.

They got 34 out 35 states needed calling for a convention to overturn that via amendment.

Later, they got close with a call for a federal balanced budget amendment.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 27, 2015 02:00 AM (dvuhZ)

515 Tell me again how we have not lost?
I'll be buying food, medical supplies, and more guns and ammo while you do.
Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 01:56 AM (hVdx9)

*****

Be sure to lay in plenty of KY, so they can break it off in your ass enthusiastically and often. Or, not, pending personal preference.

Practice posing as a one stop bike rack. After supplies, services will be a secondary necessity.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 02:02 AM (YLidQ)

516 Note the word "shall"-they get no choice. If they attempt to exercise choice they invalidate the entire framework and we can move on to 'other means'.


Posted by: Methos at December 27, 2015 02:00 AM (ZbV+0)

You're right, they "shall," but who decides on the provisions for how they "shall?" Or when they "shall?" Etc. etc. That's the point I was trying to make.

Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 02:03 AM (C3E0x)

517 Yes the problem started 50 years ago. It is now at critical mass and there is no turning back.
We are past being able to stop it.
The die is cast.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 02:04 AM (hVdx9)

518
508 Imagine a gang of Paul Ryans having access to the source code of the Constitution.
---
How do you imagine this is any worse than what we have?

What this all comes down to is what are you willing to do to government to keep it under control? If you won't do the one thing we still can within the current legal framework to at least try to correct the situation, how can you be counted on to do what's necessary when the time comes to fix it the hard way?
Posted by: Methos at December 27, 2015 01:57 AM (ZbV+0)

Why do something that is just as likely to make it worse and why spend enormous time and energy doing it?

Plus, what makes you think changing the Constitution will fix anything? Will the debt go poof? Will the FSA vanish?

Once you accept that collapse is inevitable you realise you have to work for progress in a different way. You still vote and you still obey the law, but you vote for a different reason than other guy. You strengthen legal institutions and relationships for different reasons than the other guy.

You are not wasting your time and energy trying to stop what cannot be stopped.

You are using them to endure and recover.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 02:04 AM (MQEz6)

519 OK, let's all hold hands and runt to the cliff together.
It's over.

Posted by: Ralph at December 27, 2015 02:06 AM (8yZ+3)

520 Be sure to lay in plenty of KY, so they can break it off in your ass enthusiastically and often. Or, not, pending personal preference.

Practice posing as a one stop bike rack. After supplies, services will be a secondary necessity.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty
****

Big surprise you have no answers. You are too full of yourself. GFY. I will make it a point to rub your nose in your stupidity when it comes to pass shithead.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 02:07 AM (hVdx9)

521 Since we allegedly live in a free country, I'll associate who with what the fuck I want, since you're writing it.

Second, you just said above an Article V Convention was the last legal hope. So if it's not the last hope now, then what's the other legal options?
Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 02:00 AM (C3E0x)

*****

You rererenced me in a post that stated that there are no longer any legal options available. I called you on it as utter and complete BS, and explained why. The fact that you do not accept it does not invaildate it.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 02:07 AM (YLidQ)

522 Holy robot racism Batman!

Now we know why the anti-tech movement is "growing"

http://tinyurl.com/jpuxy5l



Posted by: Boy Wonder at December 27, 2015 02:08 AM (vlgjM)

523 but who decides on the provisions for how they "shall?"
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The state legislatures can include a "comply by this date or else" clause among the language they use calling for a convention

Posted by: Methos at December 27, 2015 02:09 AM (ZbV+0)

524 The daughter just bought a house in Garland a month ago; the tornado came within a couple of blocks of her new place.

She and hubby are fine, but without power. I'll have to wait til tomorrow for any damage report.

Sheesh. Welcome to the neighborhood, eh? But first...

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 27, 2015 02:09 AM (gyKtp)

525 Be sure to lay in plenty of KY, so they can break it off in your ass enthusiastically and often. Or, not, pending personal preference.

Practice posing as a one stop bike rack. After supplies, services will be a secondary necessity.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty

If you're trying to be funny, it ain't working. Everybody who disagrees with you is being civil.

I should be sleeping right now, so I'll end with this: you can have your Article V, and I'll arm up, and we'll see who was right.

If an Article V Convention fixes this country, I will bow to your greatness. My bet is the Convention will never happen.

Good luck and goodnight.

Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 02:09 AM (C3E0x)

526 >>>The fact that you do not accept it does not invaildate it. <<<


Nor does it validate it.


Posted by: Ralph at December 27, 2015 02:09 AM (8yZ+3)

527 You rererenced me in a post that stated that there are no longer any legal options available. I called you on it as utter and complete BS, and explained why. The fact that you do not accept it does not invaildate it.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty
****

You are dangerously delusional. It has been explained in great detail why you are wrong.
You are too much of an egotistical asshole to face reality. You are much like a liberal.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 02:10 AM (hVdx9)

528 Big surprise you have no answers. You are too full of yourself. GFY. I will make it a point to rub your nose in your stupidity when it comes to pass shithead.
Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 02:07 AM (hVdx9

***

You gave up. What other answers can I providI? GFY indeed.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 02:12 AM (YLidQ)

529 Art V gives the Left and all its buddies access to the source code of the Constitution.


No, it doesn't. All it does is allow for the proposal of amendments. They still have to go through the ratification process. An Art V convention could propose an amendment that installs Hillary as emperor for life, and if it doesn't pass 3/4 of the states, it's meaningless.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 27, 2015 02:12 AM (N8hFs)

530 Anybody remember when Egypt erupted? Ace does ! 17 mil in the streets sends a strong message to the establishment even without all the firearms i lost in the canoe incident

Posted by: t-dubya-d at December 27, 2015 02:13 AM (vg109)

531 "Shall" means it's a tax.

Posted by: John Roberts at December 27, 2015 02:13 AM (FkBIv)

532 You rererenced me in a post that stated that there are no longer any legal options available. I called you on it as utter and complete BS, and explained why. The fact that you do not accept it does not invaildate it.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 02:07 AM (YLidQ)

This is what I said:

Re: MWNP's question about what other legal options there are, the correct answer is...NONE.
Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 01:47 AM (C3E0x)

"Other" meant other than Article V. I said that because YOU asked the question above somewhere about what other legal options there might be besides Article V. I replied that there were none AFTER ANY ARTICLE V.

If you misinterpreted my point, well excuse me. But it sounds like you're getting a couple of your rants mixed up as well. Go back and read maybe.

Now goodnight.

Posted by: Blano at December 27, 2015 02:15 AM (C3E0x)

533
529 Art V gives the Left and all its buddies access to the source code of the Constitution.


No, it doesn't. All it does is allow for the proposal of amendments. They still have to go through the ratification process. An Art V convention could propose an amendment that installs Hillary as emperor for life, and if it doesn't pass 3/4 of the states, it's meaningless.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 27, 2015 02:12 AM (N8hFs)

And if it does pass...

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 02:15 AM (MQEz6)

534 Plus, what makes you think changing the Constitution will fix anything?
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There are some people with the will to fix things the hard way that won't until they are convinced all other options have been exhausted. This exhausts those options.

There a great many more who never will under any circumstances. They ought to be ignored.

There is an outside chance that the resolve of the vast majority of states is a sufficient lever to put a stop to the powers in DC. Imagine being those people and realizing they are moments away from not being able to set foot in 75% or more of the states in the union without the threat of (at least) imprisonment (as absent Constitutional order, no one in the federal government is anything more than a bandit). That may stop the necessity of 'other means'.

Economic collapse from where we are and the resulting mass starvation of the FSA are entirely unavoidable at this point, so I won't waste effort trying to avoid them.

Posted by: Methos at December 27, 2015 02:15 AM (ZbV+0)

535 491 Really, you think that 2/3 of both corrupt Houses is going to go for that without it being fixed against the People?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 01:39 AM (EzgxV)

*****

I see it as the last legal option available before very bad things happen. If anyone has any other legal remedies, I 'm all ears. That very especially includes you, Cooth. Whatcha got?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 01:44 AM (YLidQ)



1. Very bad things are happening now, every day. For example, https://www.washingtonpost.com /news/wonk/wp/2015/11/23 /cops-took-more-stuff-from-people -than-burglars-did-last-year/


2. The fact that Jon Corzine, Lois Lerner, and Eric Holder are walking around free, with government pensions, is a very bad sign. Arguably the same is true regarding Hillary Clinton.


3. The government, and the political parties, are gathering more information about all of us in realtime than ever previously imagined possible. In the Bay Area, there is a system called FasTrack to pay your bridge tolls across a dozen toll bridges and another dozen toll express lanes.....it has more than 10,000 sensors -- many in areas far removed from bridges. There exist special computer languages to data-mine your personal information across the the full spectrum of online activities. Internet and phone traffic is monitored as never before.



4. If you read the Declaration of Independence, it gives reasons for a People to rid themselves of a foreign government. How many of the cited wrongs are true today as regards to Washington? (e.g. "He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance." or "He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.")



As far as legal remedies.....I am legally preparing in ways great and small for the time when we get our Todd Beamer saying, "let's roll". I'll bet you an ounce of three-nines silver that will happen before an Article V -- 'cause a dollar won't mean shit either way when we find out.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 02:17 AM (EzgxV)

536 You gave up. What other answers can I providI? GFY indeed.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty
****

No, I realized they had won and am preparing for the next phase while you play with yourself and stroke your ego. Get over yourself. I tried to be civil, you chose not to be.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 02:19 AM (hVdx9)

537
534 Plus, what makes you think changing the Constitution will fix anything?
---
There are some people with the will to fix things the hard way that won't until they are convinced all other options have been exhausted. This exhausts those options.

There a great many more who never will under any circumstances. They ought to be ignored.

There is an outside chance that the resolve of the vast majority of states is a sufficient lever to put a stop to the powers in DC. Imagine being those people and realizing they are moments away from not being able to set foot in 75% or more of the states in the union without the threat of (at least) imprisonment (as absent Constitutional order, no one in the federal government is anything more than a bandit). That may stop the necessity of 'other means'.

Economic collapse from where we are and the resulting mass starvation of the FSA are entirely unavoidable at this point, so I won't waste effort trying to avoid them.
Posted by: Methos at December 27, 2015 02:15 AM (ZbV+0)

You have described the thing you want to avoid. States arresting citizens because they represent the Feds. Millions starving.


Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 02:19 AM (MQEz6)

538 I quoted the entire thing above -- don't see anything about one vote each.


"The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it
necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the
Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States,
shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case,
shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this
Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the
several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof
,"

Posted by: Weirddave at December 27, 2015 02:19 AM (N8hFs)

539 And if it does pass...
---
Then the 3/4 of state legislatures you imagine voting for such a thing join the list of outlaws.

Posted by: Methos at December 27, 2015 02:19 AM (ZbV+0)

540 There are two big problems. First and foremost is the 17th Amendment. That took the states, as states, completely out of the federal loop. And that was done with an amendment, was not in the original "source code".

That basically destroyed one of the key components of the architecture of the federal legislature.

The second big problem is in the original source code. Well, not really, It is the supremacy of the Supreme Court as the ultimate arbiter of what the constitution means. The Framers were hoping impeachment would be used to reign in federal judges, but that turned out to be a dead letter.

I'd restore the pre-17th Amendment Senate, and come up with something to override the Supreme Court. It shouldn't be easy, but there should be a mechanism, and a mechanism by the states, as states, to overturn the Supreme Court.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 27, 2015 02:20 AM (dvuhZ)

541 My ass.


Posted by: Roxy Raye at December 27, 2015 02:20 AM (8yZ+3)

542 You are dangerously delusional. It has been explained in great detail why you are wrong.
You are too much of an egotistical asshole to face reality. You are much like a liberal.
Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 02:10 AM (hVdx9)

****

I asked what other LEGAL options were available. There have been no answers to this question. Because there are none.

Instead, dipshits like you have chosen to deflect and invert, while providing no other solutions.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 02:21 AM (YLidQ)

543 And if it does pass...

Than it becomes the law of the land and several states secede, leading to Civil War Part Deux. But it won't. Rs own enough state legislatures to prevent it.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 27, 2015 02:22 AM (N8hFs)

544 I asked what other LEGAL options were available. There have been no answers to this question. Because there are none.

Instead, dipshits like you have chosen to deflect and invert, while providing no other solutions.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 02:21 AM (YLidQ)

You have been answered.

There are no legal answers.

There is only prepare and prepare some more.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 02:22 AM (MQEz6)

545 541: Roxy baby, we'll hold the convention right there in your ass.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 27, 2015 02:24 AM (dvuhZ)

546
543 And if it does pass...

Than it becomes the law of the land and several states secede, leading to Civil War Part Deux. But it won't. Rs own enough state legislatures to prevent it.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 27, 2015 02:22 AM (N8hFs)

You see there is the flaw in advocating Art V: faith that it work as you want it to work.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 02:24 AM (MQEz6)

547 529 Art V gives the Left and all its buddies access to the source code of the Constitution.


No, it doesn't. All it does is allow for the proposal of amendments. They still have to go through the ratification process. An Art V convention could propose an amendment that installs Hillary as emperor for life, and if it doesn't pass 3/4 of the states, it's meaningless.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 27, 2015 02:12 AM (N8hFs)



Oh, that's right -- that's the other thing I was going to bring to the party.



Dave, what's the link to your EXCELLENT fundamental concepts essay on "when the guns come out to protect your rights, you die"?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 02:24 AM (EzgxV)

548 MWNP hmmmm.




Posted by: Roxy Raye at December 27, 2015 02:24 AM (8yZ+3)

549 Loving it. An echo chamber of cretins arguing with each other.

Posted by: Brad at December 27, 2015 02:25 AM (AQ98C)

550 >>>Roxy baby, we'll hold the convention right there in your ass. <<<

I love a convention.


Posted by: Roxy Raye at December 27, 2015 02:26 AM (8yZ+3)

551 I asked what other LEGAL options were available. There have been no answers to this question. Because there are none.

Instead, dipshits like you have chosen to deflect and invert, while providing no other solutions.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty
****

Listen shithead, you were given answers and you didn't like them so you pretended they weren't valid.
Instead you prove that you think you are some kind or brave warrior carrying on where others have quit. Fuck you. You are nothing of the sort. You launched a personal attack merely because you did not like what I had to say. May you be banned for it and yes, I will try to help that along.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 02:27 AM (hVdx9)

552 Dave, what's the link to your EXCELLENT fundamental concepts essay on "when the guns come out to protect your rights, you die"?

http://minx.cc:1080/?post=355248

Posted by: Weirddave at December 27, 2015 02:27 AM (N8hFs)

553 Roxy baby, we'll hold the convention right there in your ass.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius)


Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 27, 2015 02:28 AM (FkBIv)

554 538 I quoted the entire thing above -- don't see anything about one vote each.


"The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it
necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the
Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States,
shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case,
shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this
Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the
several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof,"

Posted by: Weirddave at December 27, 2015 02:19 AM (N8hFs)



Sorry, I lost my copy of the convention invite, where it said that states got delegates based on population, and cities over a million population got delegates, and LGBTWTF got delegates for being special snowflakes, and universities got delegates based on endowments -- and additional speaking slots for experts.....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 02:29 AM (EzgxV)

555 You have described the thing you want to avoid. States arresting citizens because they represent the Feds. Millions starving.
---
I suppose I did but that wasn't my point.

My point is the same reason Bush went to the UN one last time when he didn't care in the slightest what they had to say about Iraq-Tony Blair did.

Posted by: Methos at December 27, 2015 02:30 AM (ZbV+0)

556 540 There are two big problems. First and foremost is the 17th Amendment. That took the states, as states, completely out of the federal loop. And that was done with an amendment, was not in the original "source code".

That basically destroyed one of the key components of the architecture of the federal legislature.

The second big problem is in the original source code. Well, not really, It is the supremacy of the Supreme Court as the ultimate arbiter of what the constitution means. The Framers were hoping impeachment would be used to reign in federal judges, but that turned out to be a dead letter.

I'd restore the pre-17th Amendment Senate, and come up with something to override the Supreme Court. It shouldn't be easy, but there should be a mechanism, and a mechanism by the states, as states, to overturn the Supreme Court.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 27, 2015 02:20 AM (dvuhZ)



^^^This.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 02:30 AM (EzgxV)

557 Listen shithead, you were given answers and you didn't like them so you pretended they weren't valid.
Instead you prove that you think you are some kind or brave warrior carrying on where others have quit. Fuck you. You are nothing of the sort. You launched a personal attack merely because you did not like what I had to say. May you be banned for it and yes, I will try to help that along.
Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 02:27 AM (hVdx9)

****

No, I was not given answers, I was given evasions and pearl clutching reasons why nothing, nothing at all, can be done! We are doomed!

Fuck that.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 02:31 AM (YLidQ)

558 Speaking of that DNA testing stuff, I read a cautionary tale about that. Some guy found himself accused of rape. Seems like the cop shop somewhere started running DNA samples against the databases that those DNA places keep. The poor guy was a match.
On further testing, it was proved not to be his, but damn. Imagine that.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 27, 2015 12:42 AM

Well all this talk of DNA testing has me intrigued as I've had mine done by Ancestry.com. Been doing my family history since I was a teen (yeah I was a geek).

I understand the paranoia about 2 much info in other hands, but what on earth is anyone going to do w/ my DNA ancestry analysis?

Round me up and put me in a camp w/ people that are totally white? BTW, I'm also under 1% Jewish so do I get to go to 2 camps?

Believe me, at the costs of these tests someone like Ancestry isn't going to run more than what they need to. They are looking at your genetic background, not your specific chromosomes.

Anyone's well more versed than I is welcome to correct me.

Posted by: Farmer at December 27, 2015 02:32 AM (o/90i)

559 Art V gives the Left and all its buddies access to the source code of the Constitution.

It also relies on folks obeying a new Constitution better than they obey the present one.

It is a very bad step to take.
Posted by: eman;


If all measures are passed in each state legis as a required whole, nope.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 27, 2015 02:32 AM (9YDUz)

560
559 Art V gives the Left and all its buddies access to the source code of the Constitution.

It also relies on folks obeying a new Constitution better than they obey the present one.

It is a very bad step to take.
Posted by: eman;

If all measures are passed in each state legis as a required whole, nope.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 27, 2015 02:32 AM (9YDUz)

What measures? Only ones you like and not any you do not like?

Got a way to be sure of that?

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 02:35 AM (MQEz6)

561 553:
>>Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

Reporting for duty, sir.

Posted by: Col. Angus, Enil Angus, that is at December 27, 2015 02:35 AM (dvuhZ)

562 How many folks were sure ObamaCare was going to be yanked by the Supremes?

How many folks thought Roberts would at the last minute rewrite his decision and save OCare?

Still have faith in a Convention of politicians to change things so that the politicians have to stop fucking us up the ass?

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 02:39 AM (MQEz6)

563 Dave, what's the link to your EXCELLENT fundamental concepts essay on "when the guns come out to protect your rights, you die"?
---
I think Winston Churchill said something about the dangers in putting off inevitable fights and the increasing cost of doing so, up to and including being in the position that death was the only alternative to slavery.

And frankly, fuck the socialists, the corporatists, the mohammadans, and any of the other statists who thinks I will tolerate slavery to any of those inferior peoples.

Posted by: Methos at December 27, 2015 02:39 AM (ZbV+0)

564 Sorry, I lost my copy of the convention invite, where it said that
states got delegates based on population, and cities over a million
population got delegates, and LGBTWTF got delegates for being special
snowflakes, and universities got delegates based on endowments -- and
additional speaking slots for experts.....

The states can have as many delegates as they want. They can declare every citizen of the state, and every illegal, delegates if that want. What they don't get is more than one vote.

This isn't new stuff, the Constitution has been amended 27 times already (in reality for our purposes (this discussion) 1

The biggest fly in the ointment is how do we make the Feds obey the new amended Constitution when they aren't following the old one?

In that I think our secret weapon is Ted Cruz. If he wins, he's likely to have the opportunity to wipe out the 4/4/1 SCOTUS split we have now, and with his background I'll bet that the justices he proposes will be Constitutionalists like he is, not a Roberts or a Souter or a Kennedy. That could give us the 50 years we need to unravel the judicial bullshit of the last 50 years.

Do I want to retry Roe or Kelo with a 6/3 split in our favor? You bet I do.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 27, 2015 02:41 AM (N8hFs)

565 Damn. Barrel. I'm going to bed.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 27, 2015 02:41 AM (N8hFs)

566 Turtle will not give Cruz the Supreme choices he wants.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 02:43 AM (MQEz6)

567 Turtle will not give Cruz the Supreme choices he wants.
Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 02:43 AM (MQEz6)

****

Well, you are just a big ole charming ball of negativity, aintcha?

What are your positive suggestions? Please be specific.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 02:46 AM (YLidQ)

568 552 Dave, what's the link to your EXCELLENT fundamental concepts essay on "when the guns come out to protect your rights, you die"?

http://minx.cc:1080/?post=355248

Posted by: Weirddave at December 27, 2015 02:27 AM (N8hFs)







Thank you, Weirddave.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 02:49 AM (EzgxV)

569 Well, you are just a big ole charming ball of negativity, aintcha?

What are your positive suggestions? Please be specific.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty
****

No one has to answer or explain anything to you. Not that it would matter, really. You ignore what they say and make it a point to show what a "warrior" you think you are.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 02:49 AM (hVdx9)

570 Damn. Barrel. I'm going to bed.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 27, 2015 02:41 AM

That a great rant, you were on roll!

And you caught yourself, didn't embolden anyone...you should be barrel-free.

Posted by: Farmer at December 27, 2015 02:50 AM (o/90i)

571
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 02:46 AM (YLidQ)

Dude, you do not deserve any more answers.

I offer you no ill will.

May you know the Peace of Landru.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 02:53 AM (MQEz6)

572
570 Damn. Barrel. I'm going to bed.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 27, 2015 02:41 AM

That a great rant, you were on roll!

And you caught yourself, didn't embolden anyone...you should be barrel-free.
Posted by: Farmer at December 27, 2015 02:50 AM (o/90i)

I agree. At worst Dave has to sniff the vent on the Barrel.

Not a deep sniff, just a tiny wiff.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 02:55 AM (MQEz6)

573 No one has to answer or explain anything to you. Not that it would matter, really. You ignore what they say and make it a point to show what a "warrior" you think you are.
Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 02:49 AM (hVdx9)

***

I see. I am the one advocating using the last of our legal solutions available to us. You are the one saying there is no legal solution, we are doomed, act accordingly.

And I am the one acting like a "Warrior". Sure, lets go with that.

BTW, you never answered the original question. Then again, you knew that all along.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 02:55 AM (YLidQ)

574 MWNP, FYNQ.
That is the only response you now deserve.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 02:56 AM (hVdx9)

575 567
Turtle will not give Cruz the Supreme choices he wants.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 02:43 AM (MQEz6)



****



Well, you are just a big ole charming ball of negativity, aintcha?



What are your positive suggestions? Please be specific.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 02:46 AM (YLidQ)


What if there are no positive alternatives? What if we are forced to consider the least bad scenarios among a spectrum of horrific choices?
And what if uttering any support of a bad alternative could get you arrested, tried, and imprisoned?
What if you are trapped in the position of the Founding Fathers -- would you sign your name to the Declaration of Independence, knowing that most of those who signed met bad ends?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 02:57 AM (EzgxV)

576 The gal in the pink and white dress gives me some hope for a boner, er, better future.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 02:58 AM (MQEz6)

577 MWNP, FYNQ.
That is the only response you now deserve.
Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 02:56 AM (hVdx9)

*****

Well, that is just an open minded, free spirited response that the Bern will thank you for when you pull the lever for him.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 02:59 AM (YLidQ)

578 MWNP, FYNQ.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 03:01 AM (hVdx9)

579 What happened to Hector?

I do not recall seeing him lately?

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 03:03 AM (MQEz6)

580 What if there are no positive alternatives? What if we are forced to consider the least bad scenarios among a spectrum of horrific choices?
And what if uttering any support of a bad alternative could get you arrested, tried, and imprisoned?
What if you are trapped in the position of the Founding Fathers -- would you sign your name to the Declaration of Independence, knowing that most of those who signed met bad ends?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 02:57 AM (EzgxV)

*****

I get that. I have stated, multiple times, thst I see an article V as our last LEGAL option. Yet, boneheads keep blowing past this simple concept.

I am trying to deal with the here and now. I have no time for multiple versions of hypotheticals.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 03:03 AM (YLidQ)

581 At least when chemjeff hijacks the ONT asking about steaks he doesn't start demanding everyone answer his questions and get insulting about it

Posted by: Buzzion at December 27, 2015 03:03 AM (qabgA)

582
552 300 million firearms in private hands and the Armed Forces are about a million and the cops are about another million.
I'll take those odds anyday and twice on Sunday. Matt Bracken spit the 411 on that in What I Saw at the Coup.

Posted by: MAx at December 27, 2015 03:04 AM (LAliD)

583 577
MWNP, FYNQ.

That is the only response you now deserve.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 02:56 AM (hVdx9)



*****



Well, that is just an open minded, free spirited response that the Bern will thank you for when you pull the lever for him.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 02:59 AM (YLidQ)


Are you saying this merely in order to betray us to the uniparty, or are you completely oblivious to the wreck of the rule of law that has occurred over the last few years?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 03:04 AM (EzgxV)

584 What happened to Hector?

I do not recall seeing him lately?



Posted by: eman
****

I think he made an appearance earlier as Brad.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 03:04 AM (hVdx9)

585 MWNP, FYNQ.
Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 03:01 AM (hVdx9)

****

Allow me to distill my response down to Fuck You.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 03:05 AM (YLidQ)

586 What if you are trapped in the position of the Founding Fathers -- would you sign your name to the Declaration of Independence, knowing that most of those who signed met bad ends?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 02:57 AM

Hell yeah. But to be honest, I have a lot less to loose than most of them did.

One signer was a cousin, Dr. Benjamin Rush. He advanced the treatment of the mentally disabled at the time. Also advocating bleeding and is sometimes blamed for Geo Washington being bleed to death.

Go figure.

Posted by: Farmer at December 27, 2015 03:05 AM (o/90i)

587 Are you saying this merely in order to betray us to the uniparty, or are you completely oblivious to the wreck of the rule of law that has occurred over the last few years?


Posted by: cthulhu
****
Cooth, I think he might be drunk. If he really thinks I am a Bernie voter, then he is not in his right mind. Not saying this to be mean. It's not like I'm new here.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 03:06 AM (hVdx9)

588 580
What if there are no positive alternatives? What if we are forced to
consider the least bad scenarios among a spectrum of horrific choices?

And what if uttering any support of a bad alternative could get you arrested, tried, and imprisoned?

What if you are trapped in the position of the Founding Fathers --
would you sign your name to the Declaration of Independence, knowing
that most of those who signed met bad ends?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 02:57 AM (EzgxV)



*****



I get that. I have stated, multiple times, thst I see an article V
as our last LEGAL option. Yet, boneheads keep blowing past this simple
concept.



I am trying to deal with the here and now. I have no time for multiple versions of hypotheticals.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 03:03 AM (YLidQ)


I mentioned upthread that I consider Article V to be a hypothetical. Care to prove to me that it's viable?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 03:06 AM (EzgxV)

589 I think he made an appearance earlier as Brad.
Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 03:04 AM (hVdx9)

Oh, I see.

That's lame.

Next month the new crop of Election Year trolls will show up.

Should be fun.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 03:07 AM (MQEz6)

590 At least when chemjeff hijacks the ONT asking about steaks he doesn't start demanding everyone answer his questions and get insulting about it
Posted by: Buzzion at December 27, 2015 03:03 AM

HEY...aren't you spossed to be dead?

Posted by: Farmer at December 27, 2015 03:08 AM (o/90i)

591 >>>"A hormone which switches off the preference for sugary foods has been found by scientists."

Yeah it's called testosterone.

I gotta say, i really miss enjoying sweet foods. Sometimes I make myself enjoy them just to re-experience them.

Posted by: Max Power at December 27, 2015 03:09 AM (QCc6B)

592 I'm hoping to greet the New Year with several thousand rounds more than I greeted 2015.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 03:09 AM (EzgxV)

593 582

552 300 million firearms in private hands and the Armed Forces are about a million and the cops are about another million.
I'll take those odds anyday and twice on Sunday. Matt Bracken spit the 411 on that in What I Saw at the Coup.

Posted by: MAx at December 27, 2015 03:04 AM (LAliD)


Haven't seen you around much. Merry Christmas.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 03:12 AM (EzgxV)

594 I'm hoping to greet the New Year with several thousand rounds more than I greeted 2015.


Posted by: cthulhu
****

Are talking ammo or drinks?

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 03:12 AM (hVdx9)

595
592 I'm hoping to greet the New Year with several thousand rounds more than I greeted 2015.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 03:09 AM (EzgxV)

I'm going for the bow and arrow approach.

Like certain farts, silent but deadly.

Posted by: eman at December 27, 2015 03:12 AM (MQEz6)

596 I'm going for the bow and arrow approach.

Like certain farts, silent but deadly.

Posted by: eman
****

If that is the other option, I will take the arrow.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 03:14 AM (hVdx9)

597 594
I'm hoping to greet the New Year with several thousand rounds more than I greeted 2015.





Posted by: cthulhu

****



Are talking ammo or drinks?

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 03:12 AM (hVdx9)


I'd say either, but I was seriously overstocked on drinks 12/31/14.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 03:14 AM (EzgxV)

598 I mentioned upthread that I consider Article V to be a hypothetical. Care to prove to me that it's viable?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 03:06 AM (EzgxV)

*****

Whether it is viable or not remains to be seen, as it has never been tried, right?

What is indisputable is that this is a final option written into the Constitution.

Do we need to debate this point?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 03:15 AM (YLidQ)

599 I'd say either, but I was seriously overstocked on drinks 12/31/14.


Posted by: cthulhu
****

Didn't know that was possible.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 03:16 AM (hVdx9)

600 593 Good to see ya buddy. Have a great New Year!

Posted by: MAx at December 27, 2015 03:24 AM (LAliD)

601 The story about economic illiterate Bernie Sanders lamenting that student loans have higher interest rates than mortgages, followed by widespread ridicule of his ignorance -- does anyone remember this exact same thing happening a couple of months ago?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 27, 2015 03:26 AM (/f6Nd)

602 598
I mentioned upthread that I consider Article V to be a hypothetical. Care to prove to me that it's viable?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 03:06 AM (EzgxV)



*****



Whether it is viable or not remains to be seen, as it has never been tried, right?



What is indisputable is that this is a final option written into the Constitution.



Do we need to debate this point?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 03:15 AM (YLidQ)


You're saying that the manual for the Ship of State (the Constitution) says that you need to do this bunch of undefined, untried procedures in the event the ship needs to be put on the right course. We're saying that Washington looking like King George 99-44/100% of the time (Declaration of Independence) is reason enough to scuttle. Come over and convince us we're wrong -- 'cause telling us we need some slight rudder adjustment isn't getting you very far.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 03:27 AM (EzgxV)

603 601
The story about economic illiterate Bernie Sanders lamenting that
student loans have higher interest rates than mortgages, followed by
widespread ridicule of his ignorance -- does anyone remember this exact
same thing happening a couple of months ago?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 27, 2015 03:26 AM (/f6Nd)


Thing is, he's got a point -- student loans cannot effectively be discharged in bankruptcy and attach to the humans involved like indentured servitude.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 03:31 AM (EzgxV)

604 You're saying that the manual for the Ship of State (the Constitution) says that you need to do this bunch of undefined, untried procedures in the event the ship needs to be put on the right course. We're saying that Washington looking like King George 99-44/100% of the time (Declaration of Independence) is reason enough to scuttle. Come over and convince us we're wrong -- 'cause telling us we need some slight rudder adjustment isn't getting you very far.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 03:27 AM (EzgxV)

****

Well, aside from Holy Word Salad to make not much of a point, fine.

You are trying to have it both ways. Convince me we need what a scuttle would look like and why. Go!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 03:33 AM (YLidQ)

605 Something keeps trying to blow-out the margins until the page finally resolves when I refresh. It's very noticeable tonight.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 03:34 AM (EzgxV)

606 Thing is, he's got a point -- student loans cannot effectively be discharged in bankruptcy and attach to the humans involved like indentured servitude.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015

--------

I understand that, but my point is that I could swear this story already happend once. Does anyone remember that?

(And I don't think he understood the principle of risk driving interest rates on loans at all, based on other things he's said -- he just thinks education is a noble pursuit and interest rates should reflect that.)

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 27, 2015 03:39 AM (/f6Nd)

607 Semi-Literate Thug, not on this specific issue, but I do recall some other economic stumble of his.
Not surprised a socialist doesn't get Capitalism.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 03:41 AM (hVdx9)

608 Well, aside from Holy Word Salad to make not much of a point, fine.

You are trying to have it both ways. Convince me we need what a scuttle would look like and why. Go!
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 03:33 AM (YLidQ)

****

I had a feeling no answer would be forthcoming here.

Have a lovely morning.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 03:42 AM (YLidQ)

609 Here it is:

"It makes no sense that students and their parents pay higher interest rates for college than they pay for car loans or housing mortgages."


http://preview.tinyurl.com/q6rl77b

It was in late October. He made the same point, was ridiculed for not understanding the effect of collateral, and then deleted the tweet. And now is making the same point again.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 27, 2015 03:51 AM (/f6Nd)

610 604
You're saying that the manual for the Ship of State (the Constitution)
says that you need to do this bunch of undefined, untried procedures in
the event the ship needs to be put on the right course. We're saying
that Washington looking like King George 99-44/100% of the time
(Declaration of Independence) is reason enough to scuttle. Come over and
convince us we're wrong -- 'cause telling us we need some slight rudder
adjustment isn't getting you very far.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 03:27 AM (EzgxV)



****



Well, aside from Holy Word Salad to make not much of a point, fine.



You are trying to have it both ways. Convince me we need what a scuttle would look like and why. Go!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 03:33 AM (YLidQ)


The seven [the five you know, plus Public Health and NOAA] Uniformed services of the United States take an oath of office as follows: "I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."

So declare Progressives to be enemies of the Constitution of the United States by an EO like those that they're so fond of. Declare entire cabinet-level Departments the same -- like the fewer than 5000 Communists, Statists, and pederasts that comprise the Department of Education.

It should be noted that the oath for other Federal officials (besides the President) is "I, AB, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the
Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and
domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I
take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose
of evasion, and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of
the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."

I can't see it as a bad thing if these oaths were taken seriously.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 03:56 AM (EzgxV)

611 Here it is:

"It makes no sense that students and their parents pay higher interest rates for college than they pay for car loans or housing mortgages."


http://preview.tinyurl.com/q6rl77b

It was in late October. He made the same point, was ridiculed for not understanding the effect of collateral, and then deleted the tweet. And now is making the same point again.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug
****

I stand corrected. Wow. He doesn't learn. Thanks SLT.

Posted by: Tilikum Moderately Nefarious Killer Whale at December 27, 2015 03:58 AM (hVdx9)

612 608
Well, aside from Holy Word Salad to make not much of a point, fine.



You are trying to have it both ways. Convince me we need what a scuttle would look like and why. Go!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 03:33 AM (YLidQ)



****



I had a feeling no answer would be forthcoming here.



Have a lovely morning.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 27, 2015 03:42 AM (YLidQ)


"I give a glib proposal to which there is no glib reply -- so I declare myself a winner after five minutes."

Much as I try to cut you some slack, you do sometimes have a knack for being seriously annoying.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 04:01 AM (EzgxV)

613 Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 04:01 AM (EzgxV)



Nine minutes. Way to contribute to thoughtful discourse, there.....we must be in the lightning round.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 27, 2015 04:09 AM (EzgxV)

614 Well now cut Bernie some slack. He's old. He probably forgot he already said it and got mocked and deleted it.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 27, 2015 04:10 AM (qabgA)

615 Good Sunday Morning to everyone.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and Unimproved. at December 27, 2015 04:29 AM (WVsWD)

616 Good Sunday Morning to everyone.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and Unimproved. at December 27, 2015 04:29 AM

Same to you Tim. Looks like IL has avoided the worst weather, but we may get some crappy stuff Mon.

Prayers out to those devastated by the recent storms.

Posted by: Farmer at December 27, 2015 04:59 AM (o/90i)

617 It's still raining here. Come around 8:30 it'll make 24 hours straight.

Only 39 more days to go then.

"Prayers out to those devastated by the recent storms. "

Seconded.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and Unimproved. at December 27, 2015 05:03 AM (WVsWD)

618 What do you expect from Illinois

http://cms.fightforthefuture.org/illinois-just-made-it-felony-film-cops/

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and Unimproved. at December 27, 2015 05:34 AM (WVsWD)

619 71 degrees at 0415 this morning in ETEX. Another Christmas in Florida, eh? Well, off to pay the yankee reconstruction tax.

Posted by: Eromero at December 27, 2015 05:48 AM (b+df9)

620 So we all agree?

The alleged first selfie is 100% bullsh*t?

Posted by: Captain Kirock at December 27, 2015 06:16 AM (pRQgh)

621 At that "first selfie" link is a pic of a Virginia "Kids First" license plate, with the tag number EATTHE. Pretty funny, so I posted it to Facebook. A friend comments on it saying it's her boyfriend's car, and the state made him surrender the plate after some humorless bitchmom complained.

Small world, and the 'net is just making it smaller.

Posted by: ericinva at December 27, 2015 09:06 AM (ChGIS)

622 I love how the first tweet in that WAPO story about Americans crashing their drones is from a dude in Great Britain crashing his drone.

Posted by: Fletch at December 27, 2015 10:20 AM (orDky)

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