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Overnight Open Thread (12-20-2015) – Star Wars Edition
Well Big Navy, this is your fault, Shipmate. You elected to create a "too big to fail" shipbuilding program that had no Plan-B when LCS proved what people started to say over a decade ago. You did that in order to meet you own selfish career goals - the needs of the warfighter be damned. You decided to throw more money and hard work of Sailors at a program that was known to be a failure by everyone you refused to listen to. No, scratch that - those you eliminated from the conversation.You did it because you were more loyal to people than to service - and you created a command climate that demanded happy talk. In your arrogance, you did all you could do for your reasons, not the needs of the Navy decades after you started wallowing in the food trough in your post-Navy career in the belly of the beast you once defended your Sailors from. There is no reason why we don't have a different sub-6,000T class of warship under construction other than systemic and rewarded almost Ottoman levels of bureaucratic, ossified professional malpractice.
-- CDR Salamander who is not a fan of the LCS (littoral combat ship). The LCS seems to be unwanted and unloved by all except for the top Navy brass who have gone all in on it.
"The mayoress, Miranda de Vries, said she was shocked at the violence caused by an estimated 2,500 people in the town of 27,000 that lies near the city of Utrecht." When ten percent of your population is rioting, it's not just a fringe phenomenon.
-- Glenn Reynolds
Quote of the Day III - The Order Makes a Difference Edition
The government in the Netherlands has clarified that it is legal for driving instructors to offer lessons in return for sex, as long as the students are over the age of 18.
However, it is illegal to offer sex in return for lessons.
Quote of the Day IV
Well...it's not Prometheus.
-- AoSHQ Ben reviewing Star Wars: The Force Awakens
The Force Awakens is what you get when Star Wars is directed by somebody who doesn't hate and resent the franchise.
-- Moe Lane (@moelane) December 18, 2015
The Secret To Star Wars' Staying Power
Stop Complaining About Star Wars And Enjoy It
The Plinkett Star Wars Prequel Reviews
Last week I was talking with someone at work about how much the prequels sucked and pointed him to these reviews. I ended up re-watching all of them and enjoyed them anew and discovered a few more hidden details. The last half of the Revenge of the Sith review in particular had a lot of insights about what made the movies so flat and emotionally empty.
One that stood out for me was that there were essentially two kinds of scenes in the movies - action sequences and scenes with people just talking while sitting on a coach or stopping in mid-walk. The problem is that Lucas was focused on the action scenes and ended up writing/directing the obligatory talking scenes so unimaginatively and in such a dull and plodding way that it robbed the resulting action scenes of any emotional impact.
Another was that there were way too many lightsabers and lightsaber fights in the prequels. One key point he makes is that sword fights in movies (and that's what lightsaber fights really are) are ultimately about the culmination of the conflict between the fighters rather than the fight itself. And a short intense and brutal fight with inelegant swordplay has far more emotional impact than a drawn-out beautifully choreographed but sterile fight where nothing really seems to be at stake i.e. every fight in the prequels.
(videos below)
The Phantom Menace Review (1 of 7)
The Attack of the Clones Review (1 of 9)
The Revenge of the Sith Review (complete)
Mark Steyn Reveals That He Never Got the Appeal of Star Wars At All
Sci-fi wasn't boffo before Star Wars - if anything, rather the opposite: It was regarded as the upmarket intellectual end of genre fiction. Then George Lucas came along, and hijacked the entire field, with little more than a guy with a bucket on his head, a dog with a stick-on moustache, a talking garbage can and a princess wearing two cinnamon rolls on her ears.
But what do I know? Star Wars is the most successful movie ever. It's supposed to be "epic" and "primal", but, if so, it beats me. A film such as, say, High Noon, which takes place in real time - 90 minutes - on one dusty monochrome main street lined with plywood house fronts and whose only special effect is Tex Ritter's plaintive rendition of the title song, is truly primal: it's big at its core. Star Wars, it seems to me, is epic only in the sense that the telephone book is epic.
Well no man is perfect. So I'll forgive him for this. And for his feline-inspired music videos.
Katherine Timpf discovers the dark side of the Star Wars fans' lack of humor
Of Course the Empire Is Evil -- and So Is Sonny Bunch
How To Drive Star Wars Fans Crazy
Step 1: point out that the droids are effectively slaves.
Step 2: Contend that Chewbacca is female, and in love with Han.
Step 3: Wear this t-shirt.
Star Wars: Every Scene From I-VI Charted by Character Interactions
How To Watch the Original Star Wars Trilogy As It Was Before George Lucas Screwed It Up
Torrent is your friend
Never has an evil empire had such a great theme. Makes you want to sign right up and go crush some rebels.
Star Wars Minus Star Wars is a video essay on the original film that doesn't use a single shot, sound, or snippet of music from the original movie. Instead, it strings together scenes and sounds from movies that influenced George Lucas in making the film and also from movies that have been influenced by Star Wars.
Triumph The Insult Comic Dog vs Star Wars Fans
One of the best Triumph lines ever:
You look like some kind of super-nerd. It looks like you were built in a laboratory out of parts from lesser nerds.
Proof That Jar Jar Is a Sith Lord
Tom Shales and NPR Try to Make Sense of a Movie Called 'Star Wars' Back in 1977
Congratulations, You've Been Cast In Star Wars! Will You Ever Work Again?
'Star Wars' porn sales up 500% ahead of 'The Force Awakens' premiere
Weekly Commenter Standings
Top 10 commenters:
1 [510 comments] 'Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car ' [71.64 posts/day]
2 [507 comments] 'Harry Paratestes'
3 [443 comments] 'J.J. Sefton'
4 [437 comments] 'Ricardo Kill'
5 [394 comments] 'Nevergiveup'
6 [391 comments] 'Anna Puma'
7 [390 comments] 'Christopher Taylor'
8 [369 comments] 'Mike Hammer, etc., etc.'
9 [360 comments] 'Slapweasel (Cold1), '
10 [341 comments] 'ThisBeingMilt'
Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [86 names] 'The Political Hat' [12.08 unique names/day]
2 [54 names] 'mindful webworker - what, me read?'
3 [53 names] 'Nigel West Dickens'
4 [48 names] 'Bertram Cabot Jr.'
5 [40 names] 'andycanuck'
6 [37 names] 'Cicero (@cicero)'
7 [37 names] 'Ready For Hillary!!11!!'
8 [36 names] 'Barack Hussein Obama'
9 [35 names] 'Doctor Fish'
10 [29 names] 'Prince Ludwig the #Problematic'
The group. Banned on 12 universities.
Where it's at - the Twitter
Tonight's post brought to you by a Fox Executive's 1976 Memo on Star Wars:
Notice: Posted by permission of AceCorp LLC and LucasFilm Ltd.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2015 11:09 PM (Yf6eY)
Posted by: Farmer at December 20, 2015 11:09 PM (o/90i)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2015 11:09 PM (Yf6eY)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:10 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2015 11:11 PM (Yf6eY)
Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2015 11:12 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2015 11:13 PM (DLIIY)
Oh come on! I demand a recount. Check for hanging chads.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:13 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Angus Irving at December 20, 2015 11:14 PM (LlvHE)
Just kidding, they liked it. Major spoiler warning though, if you choose to watch this episode.
http://tinyurl.com/h4y2ltr
Posted by: Thrawn at December 20, 2015 11:15 PM (wZ2hu)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 20, 2015 11:16 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2015 11:16 PM (DLIIY)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:17 PM (OQ9R7)
Oh come on! I demand a recount. Check for hanging chads.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:13 PM
OK Al, I suppose you only want to count certain days? No dice-
Posted by- USSC, 2000 before we lost our minds
Posted by: Farmer at December 20, 2015 11:17 PM (o/90i)
Posted by: Ralph at December 20, 2015 11:17 PM (D/1P4)
Posted by: gp at December 20, 2015 11:17 PM (mk9aG)
A six-foot penis made of Christmas lights in a window of a luxury apartment in Brooklyn, has raised concern in fellow residents of the area, who think it might offend passersby.
http://tinyurl.com/qcnb66h
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 20, 2015 11:18 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:17 PM (OQ9R7)
*****
They always do, Amigo. 26 minutes until they are no lobump*valid fodder for discussion.
*Fist bump*
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:18 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: rrpjr at December 20, 2015 11:19 PM (s/yC1)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:19 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2015 11:20 PM (YJmuy)
I'm so out of the habit of going to movies, I probably will never see this latest Star Wars. What a stick in the mud I am!
Posted by: Emmie at December 20, 2015 11:20 PM (AuYnk)
http://tinyurl.com/qcnb66h
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 20, 2015 11:18 PM (kdS6q)
*****
I would suspect it was Bloomberg, but that dude is short.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:21 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Ralph at December 20, 2015 11:21 PM (D/1P4)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2015 11:21 PM (DLIIY)
Just wait for a bit, then Kodi is your friend.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2015 11:21 PM (YJmuy)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2015 11:22 PM (DLIIY)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:22 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: rrpjr at December 20, 2015 11:19 PM (s/yC1)
*ahem*.
The keys to success in the movie business is have a fevered fan base and good-looking young actors to pull in the uninitiated.
Posted by: Marvel's 30+ Year Comic Book Movie-Making Plan at December 20, 2015 11:22 PM (wZ2hu)
Posted by: gp
Which has been illegal for the past fifty years.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 20, 2015 11:24 PM (FkBIv)
USN started building hi/lo (OHPerry FFG) back when I exited high school in the wake of the SEA collapse, looked at the military and concluded maybe the future wasn't good, voted Reagan with my ballot but not my ass.
Frightening to see what the USN considers their 'low' now.
Posted by: JEM at December 20, 2015 11:24 PM (o+SC1)
-Posted by: gp at December 20, 2015 11:17 PM (mk9aG)
Freedom of Religion and Association allows for a Moslem to not allow alcohol in their cab.
--If they own the cab.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:24 PM (OQ9R7)
- Carrie Fisher ain't so hot no mo.
- Darth Vader turns out to be Luke Skywalker's father.
- Rosebud was Luke's sled.
Hope this doesn't ruin it for anybody.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2015 11:24 PM (ntObR)
>>>UPDATE: Police sources, female driver who drove onto strip sidewalk was drunk and had a 3 yr old child in car w her.
fuckin' women, amiright?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:25 PM (AkOaV)
Many sincere thanks for the prayers offered on my behalf. I definitely saw answers.
You people are the best!
Posted by: Emmie at December 20, 2015 11:25 PM (AuYnk)
Posted by: Adriane the Ethnic Food Critic ... at December 20, 2015 11:25 PM (oZKRQ)
--If they own the cab.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:24 PM (OQ9R7)
*****
Uummm, this applies to everyone who owns cabs, not just Moose Limbs.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:26 PM (YLidQ)
Never trust a man who likes showtunes. Period.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 20, 2015 11:26 PM (9YDUz)
But at least they're using "green" fuel at 20 times the price of the normal, evil, Earth-killing, plentiful variety.
And I have to say I don't know why anyone has a big problem with a clittoral combat ship. Women are going to be joining the ranks of all the front lines so I think it only makes sense that we have some clittoral ships in service, too.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 20, 2015 11:27 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:27 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Tuor Medraut at December 20, 2015 11:28 PM (LlvHE)
Here's Glove and Boots Explanation with quite a few examples.
https://youtu.be/yZxs_jGN7Pg
Posted by: buzzion at December 20, 2015 11:28 PM (zt+N6)
How about Grease? Are we allowed to like the soundtrack from Grease??
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2015 11:28 PM (ntObR)
--I own the business.
Freedom of Association cuts two ways.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:28 PM (OQ9R7)
And if someone makes a nice cloisonné lapel pin of it, I'd buy it in an instant.
Great ONT, too. The Force is strong with this one.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 20, 2015 11:28 PM (McRlu)
fuckin' women, amiright?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:25 PM (AkOaV)
*****
She self identified as a raging hormonal lunatic. Case closed.
*Next!*
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:28 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: eman at December 20, 2015 11:28 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 20, 2015 11:28 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 20, 2015 11:28 PM (hlMPp)
Never went back. Never bothered with the prequels.
Even if I had completely adored SW up to this point, knowing that J.J. Abrams and his wife shelled out a metric shit-ton of cash to the Hillary Clinton campaign would have flushed away all enthusiasm in a nanosecond.
I'm basically done with patronizing businesses which make manifest their cold dislike for me. And Hollyweird is a business, make no mistake.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 20, 2015 11:29 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: kbdabear at December 20, 2015 11:29 PM (GrXXa)
And before you tell me this won't happen because the LCSes will operate in concert with carrier groups, yeah, you'd generally be right, but remember who we have in charge now. The same dick-bag who didn't authorize attacking ISIS's oil revenue stream will think that all he needs to do to appear tough is to send a few LCSes (with wrong weapon kits) to counter Chinese frigates and subs.
Posted by: Thrawn at December 20, 2015 11:29 PM (wZ2hu)
-Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:26 PM (YLidQ)
Comparing me to an idiot will gather you no favors, Good Sir.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:29 PM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2015 11:29 PM (DLIIY)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 20, 2015 11:27 PM (zc3Db)
****
We been needin' some stealth ships in the fleet.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:30 PM (YLidQ)
One witness told 8 News NOW, she saw the female driver hit numerous people, including children. She said some men tried to stop the car but couldn't.
The woman is now in police custody
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:30 PM (+wjl1)
Well, Mr.Maetenloch... if that is your real name... you and those hacks at Red Letter just don't get my genius and you don't get what "Revenge OfThe Sith" was all about. It was brilliantly written and directed to inspire the viewer to ponder the most important question in Star Wars...
Where is Jar Jar and what's he doing?
Posted by: george lucas at December 20, 2015 11:30 PM (EWg9n)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:29 PM (OQ9R7)
****
Just stating a fact, my man.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:31 PM (YLidQ)
Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains, you have an email about tomorrow from mindysosiare.
I'm looking forward to hearing from you.
Posted by: Emmie at December 20, 2015 11:31 PM (AuYnk)
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:31 PM (+wjl1)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 20, 2015 11:27 PM (zc3Db)
Rumors of men not being able to find the ship and missing movement are totally false.
Posted by: Hanoverfist at December 20, 2015 11:31 PM (IKya9)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2015 11:31 PM (EzgxV)
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/678622688362000385
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/678622844205588481
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/678622985880788993
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/678623135009239040
Posted by: kbdabear at December 20, 2015 11:33 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 20, 2015 11:33 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2015 11:33 PM (ntObR)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:25 PM (AkOaV)
*****
She self identified as a raging hormonal lunatic.
Pleonasm.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 20, 2015 11:33 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:34 PM (+wjl1)
Posted by: eman at December 20, 2015 11:34 PM (MQEz6)
Nothing political, it was for a film screening and charity. That's what we do in the 501st, a LOT of charity work. I did six film related events this weekend for charity and community. The ache of wearing armor all weekend was worth it!
Posted by: TK-24601 at December 20, 2015 11:34 PM (q8pTe)
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:35 PM (+wjl1)
I watched a couple of episodes of Star Trek when I was in H.S. Never saw the next generation or any Star Trek movies at a theater.
Somehow I'm still alive.
Posted by: Hank at December 20, 2015 11:35 PM (aUcgj)
-Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:31 PM (YLidQ)
And
Every preceding post that I have ever posted might have garnered you some "reasonably supposed conclusion" that I was not only "going somewhere", but I was going to reach a conclusion that was not defiant of your presuppositions.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:35 PM (OQ9R7)
driver hit numerous people, including children. She said some men tried
to stop the car but couldn't.
The woman is now in police custody
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:30 PM (+wjl1)
When parallel parking goes bad ...
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 20, 2015 11:35 PM (oKE6c)
Goodnight, all!
Posted by: Emmie at December 20, 2015 11:36 PM (AuYnk)
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:35 PM (+wjl1)
****
*Checks for a new thread*
Nope.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:36 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2015 11:36 PM (7MWCL)
Posted by: JEM at December 20, 2015 11:37 PM (o+SC1)
...
.
Posted by: eman at December 20, 2015 11:34 PM (MQEz6)
<<<
Muzzies have an overwhelming desire to mutilate them.
Posted by: Ralph at December 20, 2015 11:37 PM (D/1P4)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2015 11:29 PM (DLIIY)/i]
So ... not the worst job of parallel parking, but not the best, either.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 20, 2015 11:37 PM (oKE6c)
Farmer, if you're around, I responded to you near the end of the last thread!
Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 20, 2015 11:37 PM (lDfK8)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at December 20, 2015 11:38 PM (9mTYi)
ace's new banning policy precludes me from typing my real feelings, but -- re-watch A New Hope, then watch Empire.
If you're not sold, fine. Don't watch Return of the Jedi (arguably the weakest of the original trilogy). As for the prequels -- eh, you're not missing much.
But it'll change your life.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:38 PM (AkOaV)
-Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2015 11:33 PM (ntObR)
Nobody likes you, so we do that to spite you!
...wait. You have donuts?
OH! You didn't bring donuts.
Good Day, Sir!!!
*closes door*
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:38 PM (OQ9R7)
ay yi yi.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:27 PM (AkOaV)
Shocking!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2015 11:39 PM (7MWCL)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:35 PM (OQ9R7)
****
I am in far too fine a mood to want to do the word salad thing with you tonight.
Can we just *fist bump* and move on?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:39 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2015 11:39 PM (ntObR)
Posted by: buzzion
"Dreadful apparition, why do you trouble me?"
"It is required of every man," the Ghost returned, "that the spirit within him should walk abroad among his fellowmen, and travel far and wide; and if that spirit goes not forth in life, it is condemned to do so after death. It is doomed to wander through the world -- oh, woe is me! -- and witness what it cannot share, but might have shared on earth, and turned to happiness!"
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 20, 2015 11:39 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:40 PM (OQ9R7)
It seems to have helped a bit.
I also told them to use the Fork when eating spaghetti.
Posted by: eman at December 20, 2015 11:40 PM (MQEz6)
What? I'll get a new girlfriend?
Get a dog? A stray cat will move in?
I'll win the lotto?
A job will find me, one I can't turn down?
I'll sell a book? Make a movie?
My magic eight ball will start working again?
Posted by: Tuor Medraut at December 20, 2015 11:41 PM (LlvHE)
Mis Hum sitting on top of the wall of shame, and Slap is on there, too!
If Cth were up there, i could call it a hat trick.
Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 20, 2015 11:41 PM (lDfK8)
Night all
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:41 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: rrpjr at December 20, 2015 11:19 PM
Me too, well actually have seen the first three, but they never held much attraction for me other than the first one was innovative at the time.
I used to like sci-fi a bit, just grew out of it. I think maybe it was replaced by politics, tho I always liked that too.
To each his own.
Posted by: Farmer at December 20, 2015 11:44 PM (o/90i)
82 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2015 11:36 PM (7MWCL)
ace's new banning policy precludes me from typing my real feelings, but -- re-watch A New Hope, then watch Empire.
If you're not sold, fine. Don't watch Return of the Jedi (arguably the weakest of the original trilogy). As for the prequels -- eh, you're not missing much.
But it'll change your life.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:38 PM (AkOaV)
Eh. Look I'm a major Star Wars nerd. I would probably do very well in trivia contests about it, so I obviously love it and think its great. But its not for everyone. If you watch and you love it great. If you watch and are meh and don't see what the big deal is all about that's fine too.
You're wrong, but that's ok.
Posted by: buzzion at December 20, 2015 11:45 PM (zt+N6)
Okay. One adult.
That'll be seventy-three cents.
*wipes charge*
-You're good, Man.
Side Note:
I once had a girlfriend that bet me a half-penny on something because she knew I had to cut a penny in half.
It only takes thirty seconds, but she knew it would piss me off.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:45 PM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:45 PM (+wjl1)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:45 PM (OQ9R7)
If you're not sold, fine. Don't watch Return of the Jedi (arguably
the weakest of the original trilogy). As for the prequels -- eh, you're
not missing much.
But it'll change your life.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:38 PM (AkOaV)
How, pray tell, can I re-watch a movie I haven't watched before? Man, I don't do pop culture, movies and TV and most music included. The only way watching a Hollyweird movie can change my life is to make my wallet thinner.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2015 11:46 PM (7MWCL)
How about Grease? Are we allowed to like the soundtrack from Grease??
How about Heavy Metal? Thats a musical, right?
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 20, 2015 11:46 PM (syGA0)
Should I be ashamed?
0_o
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 20, 2015 11:46 PM (McRlu)
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:46 PM (+wjl1)
So I went to watch the videos. Made it through about ninety seconds.
Sick puppies.
Posted by: Tuor Medraut at December 20, 2015 11:46 PM (LlvHE)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2015 11:29 PM (DLIIY)
I hope the child has a good father or some decent relatives to raise him/her.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2015 11:47 PM (kGrwF)
-----
SHHH!!!
Posted by: the librarian at December 20, 2015 11:47 PM (DLIIY)
Posted by: george lucas at December 20, 2015 11:48 PM (EWg9n)
but most people do call it the wall of shame now.
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:48 PM (+wjl1)
Posted by: Ralph at December 20, 2015 11:49 PM (D/1P4)
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:49 PM (+wjl1)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
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What the dickens was that about?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at December 20, 2015 11:49 PM (9mTYi)
While I like A New Hope, I never liked the *way* I had to see it. Basically SW was all over the place, doing boffo box office, but our family was sitting it out just like we always did every blockbuster. Then one night my dad came home and just *announced,* "we're all going to see Star Wars!!" Well, I've always been the type who has to be *in the mood* to see a movie, but at the same time my dad was very authoritarian-- if I had protested I wanted to stay home, he would have thrown a fit and as he liked to say, "make your life a living hell." So I kept my mouth shut and went.
The only part of it I remember from that very first viewing? The trash compactor scene.
I honestly don't remember the first time I saw Empire; I think it was on network TV.
My all-time best SW experience was being invited by friends in 1987 to see it as part of a THX demonstration, at Mann's Chinese in Hollywood. Big screen, incredible sound, packed theater, good seats, and I got to hang out for a few hours with a woman whom at the time I had major hots for. (That ended in tears a few years later, unfortunately.) But it was a great time.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2015 11:49 PM (ntObR)
so if a woman soldier is masturbating on duty....
do you turn her in to command?
it is a new Army we've got here
Valerie Jarrett sure knows about how to win wars and all
Posted by: Jake at December 20, 2015 11:50 PM (QelBn)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2015 11:50 PM (7MWCL)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at December 20, 2015 11:50 PM (iwLCN)
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:50 PM (+wjl1)
Ignore it. LDC is just trying to rattle your chains.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2015 11:51 PM (DLIIY)
Posted by: gp at December 20, 2015 11:17 PM (mk9aG)
I had the same concerns, but reasoned it through thuswise -- If you're an official cab, with a cab medallion, government protection, you paint your cab as "available to all riders", go through toll areas, have regulated meter rates, etc......well, suck it up -- you have to act like a public agency. If you're an uber driver and uber can filter out unsuitable fares (for you) and just never tell the possible fare that you're nearby even if you're across the street -- then, yes, you could keep women out of the front seat even if you mistakenly report to a call.
If you agree to provide rides the government way, you do it by government rules. Render unto Caesar....
And, BTW, I hope that uber completely obliterates government monopoly cab companies in the near future.
The same would apply if "Nellie's wedding cakes" rented space in a government facility next to the Department of Wedding Licenses and the lease said, "provide cakes to support the nuptials granted by the Department." I'd support eviction if the Department started allowing people to marry plush toys and Nellie's refused to bake a cake for it. That said, I think that recent cases of fining general bakeries or running them out of business is ridonkulous regulatory overreach.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2015 11:51 PM (EzgxV)
Not alone you are. The first one I saw. Great shakes the movies are not.
Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 20, 2015 11:51 PM (lDfK8)
Many sincere thanks for the prayers offered on my behalf. I definitely saw answers.
You people are the best!
Posted by: Emmie at December 20, 2015 11:25 PM
Glad to hear Emmie.
Posted by: Farmer at December 20, 2015 11:52 PM (o/90i)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2015 11:50 PM (7MWCL)
glances at Alberta oil peons comment , a lone tear rolls down cheek.
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:52 PM (+wjl1)
Posted by: Ralph at December 20, 2015 11:52 PM (D/1P4)
Wasn't that during Pixy 1.7?
Been years, I know, but it seems like only Two Weeks ago.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 20, 2015 11:53 PM (McRlu)
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:53 PM (+wjl1)
Naughty or Nice? Any bets that Santa won't be on his own "Nice" list...
More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=10616
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 20, 2015 11:54 PM (Z8xbi)
congrats, be sure to start a new one soon, it is not like the entire US economy needs cheap reliable energy....
Posted by: Jake at December 20, 2015 11:54 PM (QelBn)
Wasn't that during Pixy 1.7?
Been years, I know, but it seems like only Two Weeks ago.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 20, 2015 11:53 PM (McRlu)
yeah i think back in aol dial up days.
we've been promoted
i
think
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:54 PM (+wjl1)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
If you wait around for a minute, chemjeff should be here to give you some pointers...
Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 20, 2015 11:54 PM (lDfK8)
Ignore it. LDC is just trying to rattle your chains.
Posted by: andycanuck
--------------
Not a ghost of a chance.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at December 20, 2015 11:55 PM (9mTYi)
Like I said, pretty good experience.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2015 11:55 PM (ntObR)
-Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2015 11:46 PM (7MWCL)
That's pompous for "I'm Kinda Perfect."
You don't usually see that out of Science Loving Oil Jockeys.
...Perhaps my view of Science Loving Oil Jockeys has been tainted by Hollywood.
I just don't know who you are anymore.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:55 PM (OQ9R7)
I'll probably go see it because I like going to the movie theater, and so many of the movies are stupid slop. I sit there and think about how I spent $10 on the movie ticket and an ungodly amount of money on popcorn and pop, on a movie that is just baaad.
So I'll go to Star Wars, knowing that it's better than almost all the rest of the junk that is inflicted on the public.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2015 11:55 PM (kGrwF)
Posted by: The Political Hat at December 20, 2015 11:55 PM (Z8xbi)
the fact that Star Trek owes its entire post tv series existence to Star Wars. Sure, there were still fans, but it was a dead franchise until the huge success of Star Wars brought it back, Star Wars is to Star Trek as Run-DMC is to Aerosmith.
Posted by: All Teh Meh
Naw. Star Trek: Phase II got as far as building sets:
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Phase_II
The success of SW, among other factors, conviced Paramount to pull the plug and shift resources over to STTMP.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 20, 2015 11:55 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: eman at December 20, 2015 11:56 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at December 20, 2015 11:50 PM (iwLCN)
That's sillier than Star Wars and Star Trek put together, which is pretty damn silly. Star Trek owes nothing to the farce that is Star Wars. The farce that is Star Trek has a totally independent life in idiot fiction.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 20, 2015 11:56 PM (zc3Db)
crazy world we have
Posted by: Jake at December 20, 2015 11:56 PM (QelBn)
driving instructors to offer lessons in return for sex, as long as the
students are over the age of 18.
However, it is illegal to offer sex in return for lessons.
Ah. So sex is not commutative. Good to know.
Come for the elbows, stay for the math.
Posted by: Anachronda at December 20, 2015 11:57 PM (o78gS)
but most people do call it the wall of shame now.
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:48 PM (+wjl1)
****
I work actively to keep off of it, but I am off for the next two weeks, so a little worried.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:57 PM (YLidQ)
127 What the dickens was that about?
Ignore it. LDC is just trying to rattle your chains.
Posted by: andycanuck
--------------
Not a ghost of a chance.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at December 20, 2015 11:55 PM (9mTYi)
That's the spirit!
Posted by: eman at December 20, 2015 11:57 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Jake at December 20, 2015 11:57 PM (QelBn)
-Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at December 20, 2015 11:49 PM (9mTYi)
Existential crisis. Nothing that a woman couldn't alleviate.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:58 PM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2015 11:31 PM
Is it safe yet to send you an email? Mine's still the same if you want to shoot me one if yours has changed.
T
Posted by: Farmer at December 20, 2015 11:58 PM (o/90i)
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:58 PM (+wjl1)
Posted by: Tuor Medraut at December 20, 2015 11:58 PM (LlvHE)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2015 11:58 PM (kGrwF)
Posted by: eman at December 20, 2015 11:59 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2015 11:59 PM (kGrwF)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:59 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:34 PM (+wjl1)
MollyK mentioned in the food thread that she had his email. Rather than do some complicated shuffle to get it, I asked her to ping him to see if he's ok because I've been fretting. I asked this sort of late, so if she sees this now on the ONT it's the same request.
Carol and (oh, noez -- a human name!!!!) did an exhaustive search on December posts with no joy. I'd been peeking, so this was not unexpected -- it was, in fact, the reason I brought this to the Horde. And I sincerely thank Carol and her friend for doing this.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 12:00 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Jake at December 21, 2015 12:00 AM (QelBn)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:57 PM (YLidQ)
i hope you have a nice vacation, are you going to roll into a ball and sleep or have plans of chaos?
i am leavivng on the 27 with sister for a mth, we are hitting NY and than huntington beach for hopefully sleep, and more sleep.
Posted by: willow at December 21, 2015 12:01 AM (+wjl1)
I gave you mine (chi) at end of last thread .
I'll send you cthulhu's new one if you need it.
Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 12:01 AM (lDfK8)
Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:01 AM (F78YM)
-Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2015 11:59 PM (kGrwF)
Acne, psoriasis, shingles...
Or he needs a "base" before he goes to an equatorial country on vacation.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 12:02 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 21, 2015 12:02 AM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: willow at December 21, 2015 12:02 AM (+wjl1)
Posted by: Sixkiller at December 21, 2015 12:02 AM (szEUw)
Then Star Wars showed up. Paramount panicked and said 'We gotta do something to save our jobs!' Someone at Paramount then remembered they had the rights to Star Trek.
So Gene Roddenberry was green-lighted to make a movie. Alan Dean Foster's script "In They Image" which was to be the pilot script for Phase II was given the movie treatment. Lt. Ilia survived the transition, but the Vulcan science officer Xon was lost. And Robert Wise was roped in. The movie was too long and became a dog of the franchise, in fact almost sank the franchise.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:02 AM (nGyiN)
Are you saying he just needs a good, hard Scrooge?
Posted by: andycanuck at December 21, 2015 12:03 AM (DLIIY)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 21, 2015 12:03 AM (dvuhZ)
152 Just came back from Star Wars. Major disappointment. Not the worst film ever by any means, but not a good film either. Has to be the most overhyped movie ever. Did all those people writing all the rave reviews see the same film that I just watched?
Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:01 AM (F78YM)
Have not seen it yet and all I hope for is it is better than the prequels.
Not much to ask.
Posted by: eman at December 21, 2015 12:04 AM (MQEz6)
I'm still waiting for the complete collection Star Wars commemorative
with all the back story, front story, side story and commentary from all
the directors, and all the major stars with a behind the scenes
explanation of how they did all the tricks, on 42 blue ray disks in a
limited edition boxed set with all the action figures for only $859.26
(USD). That includes all the movies, in all the variations, with all the
deleted scenes, everything, all of it. I'll be the one camped out at
the distribution center.
Posted by: Tuor Medraut at December 20, 2015 11:58 PM
You want the original trilogy theatrical releases
You'll settle for my special editions.
You'll get the prequels, nerd.
Posted by: george lucas at December 21, 2015 12:04 AM (EWg9n)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2015 11:22 PM (DLIIY)
Too many kids being raised by single mudders today. Children need a mudder and a fodder.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:04 AM (kpqmD)
Posted by: Janie's got a gun at December 21, 2015 12:04 AM (5LOHI)
Have not seen it yet and all I hope for is it is better than the prequels.
Not much to ask.
Posted by: eman at December 21, 2015 12:04 AM (MQEz6)
Better than the prequels is a damn low bar, but I keep hearing good things from people who have seen it.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:05 AM (kpqmD)
i am leavivng on the 27 with sister for a mth, we are hitting NY and than huntington beach for hopefully sleep, and more sleep.
Posted by: willow at December 21, 2015 12:01 AM (+wjl1)
****
Going to sleep in for to days, and then do the Christmas thing, followed by getting two of the houses ready to sell.
Regular work would would be less work, but the payoff should be cool.
Your plans sound very cool, enjoy!
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:05 AM (YLidQ)
Posted by: SKUNKY CHOOM at December 21, 2015 12:05 AM (CbGSW)
The only part of it I found enjoyable was the attractive woman in PJs who was featured in the Ray Parker Jr. "Who You Gonna Call?" video on MTV.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 21, 2015 12:05 AM (ntObR)
-Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:59 PM (YLidQ)
Nobody mentioned "need", but why read books?
Is ignorance "bliss"?
Does shunning an entire form of media make you smarter, better, stronger?
I need an answer, Mr. Austin!
Stop listening to music, you Godly Einstein!
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 12:05 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 21, 2015 12:06 AM (DLIIY)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:02 AM (nGyiN)
I have heard there is a director's cut that is much better than the release version.
Posted by: eman at December 21, 2015 12:06 AM (MQEz6)
But, I won't waste my money on any of the current blu-ray SW editions.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 21, 2015 12:07 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:08 AM (F78YM)
Remembering when "Star Wars: A New Hope" came out, sure it was supposed to be ...fun. What it ended up being was a means of affirming somewhat immature adults and adolescents in their escape from the boring reality of the real world.
Entertainment as art should be about entertainment, and providing a minimal amount of escape, and sometimes actually has an elevating moral or idea to convey. There is no elevating moral to "Star Wars", except the Good Guys apparently win, and the Bad Guys apparently lose. It was a change from the era of Anti-hero entertainment, but it was and never will be High Art or culture.
What it is ultimately now is a huge marketing enterprise, separating adults and children from their money to buy into the movie and all the merchandising geegaws they are hawking with it. Capitalism. There's one born every minute, as the man said.
The overwhelming lesson of "Star Wars" is great marketing selling something that is moderately childish (which is okay), but pretending it is high art or great storytelling, in the course of making hundreds of millions (Billions!) of dollars.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at December 21, 2015 12:08 AM (+1T7c)
But best of all, not a single gosh darn mention of those blasted worthless Mitichlorians. One would think Palpatine would have thought of having the Caminos develop a vaccine against catching Mitichlorians instead of a clone army. But hey - George Lucas.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:09 AM (nGyiN)
You're wrong, but that's ok.
Posted by: buzzion at December 20, 2015 11:45 PM (zt+N6)
As a kid I was a major Star Wars nerd but frankly RoTJ was a tad disappointing and I never got into the whole extended universe thing. Lucas' prequels basically killed off whatever fandom I had but I still do have a fondness for the series and think there are still some good stories left to tell from the Star Wars universe.
So if you love Star Wars that's great but if you don't that's okay too.
But I will be honest - if you didn't like the original Star Wars or at least feel some kind of emotional stirring from it, then I think you're probably missing certain neural circuitry in your brain. This doesn't mean that you're a bad person but it does mean that I will discount your views on what does and does not constitute good entertainment.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 21, 2015 12:09 AM (wqVD1)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 12:09 AM (OQ9R7)
Is ignorance "bliss"?
Does shunning an entire form of media make you smarter, better, stronger?
I need an answer, Mr. Austin!
Stop listening to music, you Godly Einstein!
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 12:05 AM (OQ9R7)
****
This was a response to the Harry Ballz guy sating that this movie will "change your life".
No. No movie will ever do that for me.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:09 AM (YLidQ)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 21, 2015 12:10 AM (DLIIY)
Better than the prequels is a damn low bar, but I keep hearing good things from people who have seen it.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:05 AM (kpqmD)
It sure is. Asking for more is pushing it.
Posted by: eman at December 21, 2015 12:10 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2015 11:31 PM
Is it safe yet to send you an email? Mine's still the same if you want to shoot me one if yours has changed.
T
Posted by: Farmer at December 20, 2015 11:58 PM (o/90i)
Define "safe".
I've actually got safe-ish ones and not-so-safe-ish ones. Is yours nine letters before @, with three of the letters being an ampersand? If so, give me a hint as to which major service you're on (e.g. "h" if you're on hotmail) and I'll take a stab from a relatively safe one.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 12:13 AM (EzgxV)
she's not a sunni or shia
Posted by: Jake at December 21, 2015 12:00 AM (QelBn)
Rats. I was hoping she'd make him pick between converting to Islam or being beheaded.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2015 12:13 AM (kGrwF)
Better than the prequels is a damn low bar, but I keep hearing good things from people who have seen it.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:05 AM (kpqmD)
It sure is. Asking for more is pushing it.
Posted by: eman at December 21, 2015 12:10 AM (MQEz6)
The fear now, as mentioned in that Red Letter Media episode, is that the SW people will "Star Trek: Into Darkness" it and try again to make a repeat of another SW film, instead of having some fresh ideas.
Posted by: Thrawn at December 21, 2015 12:14 AM (wZ2hu)
172 I don't think The Force Awakens is better than the prequels, hate to say it. No way it beats The Phantom Menace.
Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:08 AM (F78YM)
If it isn't better than the prequels then why haven't the intertubes exloded with nerd rage?
You...you liked... The Phantom Menace?
Posted by: eman at December 21, 2015 12:14 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 21, 2015 12:14 AM (YJmuy)
Posted by: Weirddave at December 21, 2015 12:15 AM (N8hFs)
Here are the discs on eBay, all three movies
http://preview.tinyurl.com/gw54oqq
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:15 AM (nGyiN)
Still sophistry, but I get it.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 21, 2015 12:15 AM (dvuhZ)
The movie was too long and became a dog of the franchise, in fact almost sank the franchise.
Posted by: Anna Puma
One of those things everybody knows, that aint quite so. STTMP made money, it just wasn't the golden goose Star Wars was:
www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=startrek.htm
The editing of the movie has pretty half-assed. Personally, I prefer the TV edit of the movie that added back in a number of cut screens that should had been left in, Scottie's nephew and such, instead of that hour of looking at V'ger just sitting there.
And a true fannish must go pitty pat at the initial travel pod fly-around the gorgeous new Enterprise model.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 12:15 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: otho at December 21, 2015 12:15 AM (EWg9n)
Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:16 AM (F78YM)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 21, 2015 12:16 AM (4ErVI)
I've said before and will say again, I'll get a good-condition LD player and the LDs if that's what it takes to own the actual originals again.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 21, 2015 12:16 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 21, 2015 12:06 AM (DLIIY)
Happy to be of service.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:17 AM (kpqmD)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 21, 2015 12:03 AM (dvuhZ)
Then stay out of the stores. I went shopping yesterday for presents for my nephews. The stores are wall to wall Star Wars gear. It does get annoying. And the stuff is terribly overpriced.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2015 12:17 AM (kGrwF)
190 eman -- no, didn't like The Phantom Menace very much. Liked The Force Awakens even less.
Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:16 AM (F78YM)
I see.
Posted by: eman at December 21, 2015 12:18 AM (MQEz6)
We are talking Hollyweird, if a movie does not perform to expectations then it is a dog. In the Heart of the Sea is a most recent example. But when it hits Red Box and Netflix it will probably do well.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:19 AM (nGyiN)
You can have the hero's journey without making everything quite so alike. That's a key component of good writing: the ability to take a basic concept and present it in new flesh.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 21, 2015 12:19 AM (fC9RO)
Posted by: Hildabeast at December 21, 2015 12:20 AM (oOYbM)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 21, 2015 12:20 AM (Vm8WO)
Posted by: eman at December 21, 2015 12:21 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:21 AM (kpqmD)
I saw "2001: A Space Odyssey" when I was 13 years old, and thought it was really great, etc., at a time when it was near the apex of the Moon Race, Project Apollo.
Watched the film on TV years later (as an adult) and realized what a lot of pretentious tripe it really was.
Not to be cynical and injure the hopefulness of youth, because God knows, kids need to believe in SOMETHING, and be inspired by something, in this age of deadened sensitivities and overloaded inputs from everything.
I just wish it wasn't something so trivial and childish as "Star Wars", and listening to that old poop Harrison Ford lecture us about Global Warming while he flies off to Australia to pimp for his last few million dollars he's making off this movie.
I mean, if somebody paid ME millions of dollars to be part of this global fantasy, it would sure change MY life.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at December 21, 2015 12:21 AM (+1T7c)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:22 AM (nGyiN)
If it isn't better than the prequels then why haven't the intertubes exloded with nerd rage?
Posted by: eman
You're not looking in the right place.
The mainstream media is on board, because gurl Jedi and such. SW true believers will buy anything, but as for the younglings for whom this is their first Star Wars and casuals? Reaction seems mixed on the open boards.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 12:22 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 21, 2015 12:22 AM (dvuhZ)
-Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:09 AM (YLidQ)
You're being a flathead! No emotion, man. Listen... I "get" that. I never want to show stupid emotions.
But... anger is an emotion and it is based on others.
Anger comes from love, fear and drive. A manly drive to protect life, liberty, property and above-all, Loved Ones.
If you tell me that NO movie could ever elicit those sorts of emotions, then you're:
-Not watching anything.
-Overexposed.
-Ignorant of what others feel.
-or-
-Physiologically incapable of sympathy or empathy.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 12:23 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 21, 2015 12:23 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:08 AM (F78YM)
Phantom Menace, main plot arc involves a trade embargo. The Force Awakens, no trade embargo.
Winner: The Force Awakens.
Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2015 12:24 AM (zt+N6)
"It's a movie! Get a life!" - things attributed to William Shatner.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:24 AM (nGyiN)
Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:25 AM (F78YM)
That's why Katherine Timpf's comment drew so much backlash. She wasn't just insulting some minor aspect of their lives, she was poking fun as something that had a profound effect on their lives. I know that if it wasn't for a newsgroup and later forum dedicated to Star Wars and Star Trek, I might not have made it through high school. In middle school my closest friend and I were huge star wars fans, and it's one of the reasons that we became friends. Arguably it literally saved my life. This was during a time when my divorced parents were at each others throats and dragged my sister and I into the argument whenever possible.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 21, 2015 12:25 AM (fC9RO)
"It's a movie! Get a life!" - things attributed to William Shatner.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:24 AM (nGyiN)
Why? Real life blows.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:25 AM (kpqmD)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 21, 2015 12:26 AM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:21 AM (kpqmD)
*****
Yep. This.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:26 AM (YLidQ)
Winner: The Force Awakens.
Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2015 12:24 AM
No Jar Jar. Game, set and match... The Phantom Menace.
Posted by: george lucas at December 21, 2015 12:27 AM (EWg9n)
I've just seen a comment justifying that.
Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2015 12:27 AM (zt+N6)
Certainly got a bunch of Herberts on this thread.
Posted by: Anna Puma
Star Trek - The Way to Eden - Main Jam in Lounge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pNQYHvhnms
"Long time back when the Galaxy was new -- oo."
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 12:28 AM (kdS6q)
I was asked by another movie goer after leaving SW:TFA what did I know about Rogue One.
Told him I try not to pay attention to fandom because that leads to aggravation which leads to anger and that leads to the Dark Side.
Got a chuckle for my effort.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:28 AM (nGyiN)
I didn't see that as particularly cranky on my part...
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:29 AM (kpqmD)
This Bunch piece was the likely cause, last month, of Ace going on a "Sunny Bunch is always wrong about everything" kick.
Nerd argument. Got it now.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 21, 2015 12:29 AM (gyKtp)
-Not watching anything.
-Overexposed.
-Ignorant of what others feel.
-or-
-Physiologically incapable of sympathy or empathy.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 12:23 AM (OQ9R7)
*****
Dood. All I said was that a movie, no matter how powerful, would not change my life.
I stand by that.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:29 AM (YLidQ)
Your comment is spot on. middle school and high school age kids need something to get excited about, so that they can take their focus off their problems.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2015 12:31 AM (kGrwF)
Posted by: george lucas at December 21, 2015 12:27 AM (EWg9n)
But Jar Jar is the key to all this, right (if you guys can get him to work)?
It's kinda like poetry; it rhymes.
Posted by: Thrawn at December 21, 2015 12:31 AM (wZ2hu)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at December 21, 2015 12:32 AM (iwLCN)
I wasn't a fan of Rey, but I liked Finn precisely because he's obviously in over his head and knows it. He's not Han Solo. By the time he had met Luke Han was an experience smuggler and scoundrel who was used to talking or shooting his way out of difficult situations. Finn is just trying to get away and stay alive.
And Kylo Ren isn't supposed to be a match for Vader. He's an emotionally unstable young man who idolizes Vader but has almost no control of his emotions. Vader was likely to kill you for failing a task. Kylo Ren is likely to kill you because someone else failed *their* task and he needs a punching bag. It kind of shows that the First Order isn't nearly as organized and effective as the Empire.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 21, 2015 12:32 AM (fC9RO)
I want to thank the Horde again for helping back my Christmas far brighter. You guys rock and helped lift the funk off me. Thank you.
https://www.gofundme.com/8k4zdgw9
So far written 1,200+ words today when before all I could think of was not making mortgage next month while trying to sell everything I could on eBay.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:32 AM (nGyiN)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2015 12:31 AM (kGrwF)
Weed can do that too. So I've heard.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:32 AM (kpqmD)
Took me a while to figure out what was bothering him, but that's it. Thing is, he only sleeps on the bed every now and then. He just wants the lights turned off.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2015 12:32 AM (9mTYi)
It's cool, I was just at a loss on the cranky part.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:33 AM (kpqmD)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:34 AM (nGyiN)
Die-Hard?
Not so much, but it is in the "bank" of self-preservation.
...so there's that.
I've cried when I was alone watching movies and I'm sort-of exposing myself, but I think everyone knows I'm no 'Pajama-Boy'.
It's all good.
-Ferris Buehler allowed me to loosen-up as a teenager, but "Fast Times" made me a tighter-ass kid. Balance in The Force, I guess.
I don't see many "life-changing" movies, anymore. I can't even think of one.
But if I told you that my world wasn't shaped by everything from "It's a Wonderful Life" to "Miracle on 34th Street" to "Red Dawn"-?
I'd be lying to myself and you.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 12:36 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:37 AM (kpqmD)
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I had a movie change my life...for three days. I was paid $20.00 a day as an extra, to sit in the stands at Indy. Spent the time drinking beer.
Oh, yeah, Paul Newman was there.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2015 12:37 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Tuna at December 21, 2015 12:38 AM (JSovD)
Oh, yeah, Paul Newman was there.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2015 12:37 AM (9mTYi)
Sweet! Did he autograph your bottle of salad dressing?
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:38 AM (kpqmD)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at December 21, 2015 12:39 AM (iwLCN)
Posted by: Insomniac
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Nah. Hollywood snob. Never even walked up in the stands and thanked us for doing an outstanding job of acting like drunky race fans.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2015 12:39 AM (9mTYi)
she was poking fun as something that had a profound effect on their lives.
Posted by: Colorado Alex
Which I never quite got about Star Wars FIAWOL. If you sandblast away everything else, the life message in SW seems to be, if you're the Anointed One*, life is good -- everyone else gets a lightsaber up the jacksey.
At least Star Trek has it's quaint 60s Peace Corps with Photon Torpedoes multicultural meritocracy.
*midichlorians(tm)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 12:40 AM (kdS6q)
Yesternight, I wasn't feeling up to attending the ballet, so Milady went without me. I could've caught the Dem debate, but I wanted something less gruesome, so I watched a Gotham.
But this afternoon, I did attend the Nutcracker.
Daughter takes the dance classes, but is not one of the "kids" anymore, and was not expecting to be part of the show this year. Then, she got cast as a rat, which is fun but not a major dancing role. Then she got put into a couple of other parts, including Snow. Yes, that's right, my daughter is a genuine earned-the-title Special Snowflake!
It's a relatively-small community show, so there were rough edges, but it was spectacular nonetheless, with excellent main guest artists as always, and choreography and direction by very talented professionals.
As I watched, I got to thinking, there's something in the Nutcracker for practically every flavor of the Complaining Class to get upset about.
For the self-defense haters, there's rifles, spears, and even a cannon!
For the PETA gripers, there's abuse of a bear, rats being shot, and mice being battled.
For the cultural segregationists, there's wanton and highly stereotyped cultural appropriation in Chinese, Arabic, and Russian.
For the Depopulation whiners, there's Mother Ginger with her troop of eight kids.
For the diet tyrants, there's lots of imbibing in the first part, and cakes, pies, candies, and other goodies in the second.
Also in the first act, for the social equalists, there's the whole bougoisee setting of the ritzy home.
For the genderlessness mongers, there's girls in frilly dresses playing with dolls, and rowdy, noisy boys teasing them. The girls are pretty and the men are muscular. (For the rest of us, there's legs and cleavage for guys, and taut muscular guy-butt for gals to enjoy!)
And for the anti-religious indignants, there's Christmas, and even angels.
Hard to believe this can be done in this day and age.
Oh, the outrage!
Posted by: mindful webworker - dance the night away at December 21, 2015 12:40 AM (O+0DS)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at December 21, 2015 12:39 AM (iwLCN)
And your mothers screaming at you to stop playing with the goddamned mashed potatoes, no doubt.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:40 AM (kpqmD)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 12:13 AM
yep, 9 letters, not 3 ampersands tho. tand (wifesnickname) comcast
Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 12:41 AM (o/90i)
Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:41 AM (F78YM)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2015 12:39 AM (9mTYi)
Heh. I take it no small amount of method acting was involved.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:41 AM (kpqmD)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:42 AM (nGyiN)
Posted by: PaleRider at December 21, 2015 12:42 AM (1OLmv)
I stand by that."
-Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:29 AM (YLidQ)
That's cool, man. I still love you. And I KNOW you know that in the non-gayest of knowing...
...ness.
...hood.
I'm just questioning it. Because I think you're trying to be Way Manly and shit.
Hell... after "Red Dawn", I started "prepping" before it was A Thing! I became "Primitive Camper"!
So... I question your "Human-Proof" stance.
I don't want to kill your manliness... lol.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 12:44 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 12:44 AM (OkAU/)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 21, 2015 12:45 AM (YJmuy)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at December 21, 2015 12:39 AM (iwLCN)
I enjoyed that movie even though not one bit of it made any sense, at all. And the worst sort of humiliation of having a frog boss Americans around ...
I did really get a kick out of them playing musical language to the aliens whenh they didn't have a fucking clue what any of it meant. It was a prediction about the global warming hysteria to come, I think, and the pseudo-scientists who would be running it. Very prescient in that respect.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 12:45 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Insomniac
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A thing to undertaken only by the experienced. We really put ourselves into the act.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2015 12:47 AM (9mTYi)
Life was hardly good to any the so-called Anointed Ones. Luke's family was butchered, he was pursued by the Empire, tortured, mutilated, and saw numerous friends and comrades die.
Anakin was a slave and later a Jedi Knight, spending his time going from one crisis to the next and forced to a live a monastic life with no ties to anyone.
The message I took away was that we all have to choose whether to use our capabilities for good, or for evil. Luke and Han both have to make choices in the film whether or not so fight for good, or to abandon the fight.
Luke as the ordinary boy with a special talent that made him hated by others probably resonated with many geeks who were smarter than their peers, unable to fit in, and faced social stigma because of it.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 21, 2015 12:47 AM (fC9RO)
I don't even have much around here worth selling on eBay, so you're a step ahead of me...
Hang in there, keep at it. Looking forward to my delivery.
Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 12:48 AM (lDfK8)
I don't want to kill your manliness... lol.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 12:44 AM (OQ9R7)
*****
Well, as movies as we are discussing them tonight are based on fiction, I don't see how anyone could let a movie change their life.
If it is a movie based on facts, then knowing said facts has probably already had any impact it is going to have on my life.
Nome sain?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:48 AM (YLidQ)
I best get back to writing. I have a few fans depending upon me.
Take care all. Please no blasters! Thanks again. Good night.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:51 AM (nGyiN)
Gee, that's too bad. I saw a photo of Carrie Fisher and her mother, Debbie Reynolds, together at some awards ceremony and I have to say the mother actually looks better than her daughter.
Posted by: Tuna at December 21, 2015 12:51 AM (JSovD)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:48 AM (YLidQ)
Just because a story is fiction doesn't mean that the author couldn't put genius insights into it. In fact, it is easier to do in fiction since the author is in control of every aspect of the setting and story.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 12:52 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:54 AM (F78YM)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 12:52 AM (zc3Db)
*****
Sure it is. The problem is, I already know it is make believe.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:54 AM (YLidQ)
What is so sucky about the LCS?
Modular design so it can have mission suites swapped out. Except they do not all work. Supposedly automated to reduce crew workload. And crew. Except on board ship, especially small ships, a lot of the work is just brute strength and not pushing buttons and they don't have enough crew. Weapons systems . . . dubious. And they cost an order of magnitude more than they were supposed to. Add to that, on December 11th the 5th LCS USS Milwaukee was en-route from Halifax, Nova Scotia to her first duty port at San Diego. She suffered a total propulsion failure that early reports said was caused by metal shavings from an engine component failure that the filtration system failed to catch. There were also reports that the engine component was made in China, but that is as yet unconfirmed. Had to be towed to Little Creek, Virginia.
We do need a low end warship. This costs more than any low end warship should, which means we will not have enough of them. And they don't perform up to spec.
But they do make contractors and lobbyists real happy. Their kids won't be sailing them into harms way.
Posted by: Subotai Bahadur at December 21, 2015 12:56 AM (AbFLR)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at December 21, 2015 12:39 AM (iwLCN)
I enjoyed that movie even though not one bit of it made any sense, at all. And the worst sort of humiliation of having a frog boss Americans around ...
I did really get a kick out of them playing musical language to the aliens whenh they didn't have a fucking clue what any of it meant. It was a prediction about the global warming hysteria to come, I think, and the pseudo-scientists who would be running it. Very prescient in that respect.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 12:45 AM (zc3Db)
At the big musical communication scene, I expected it to go one of two ways -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tqxzWdKKu8 or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJZYG5qwHHI .
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 12:57 AM (EzgxV)
I hate when I do that.
Posted: by Blanco
Hmm, doesn't that kinda beat the alternative?
Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 12:57 AM (o/90i)
Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:59 AM (F78YM)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:54 AM (YLidQ)
And? Are you saying that you don't think anyone can learn things from fictional tales by, say, Shakespeare or Orwell or any other author who uses fiction to get their points across?
Learning something from a story is totally independent of whether the story is fiction or fact. Stories contain information that the author chooses to put in them. The problem isn't with the story type (as to whether there is something to learn from a story) but whether the author has anything of import to say.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 12:59 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 21, 2015 01:00 AM (YJmuy)
At least Star Trek has it's quaint 60s Peace Corps with Photon Torpedoes multicultural meritocracy.
*midichlorians(tm)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 12:40 AM (kdS6q)
Actually that's one of many reasons that the fans hated the prequels.
In the original movie (ep. IV) it was implied that the force was available to anyone who chose to study it with advanced powers coming to those who were most disciplined and diligent in their study. In the prequels it was pretty much a biological thing and that changed its whole nature in the story.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 21, 2015 01:01 AM (wqVD1)
Ha! Dueling banjos blew the Close Encounters pseudo-scientists out of the water!
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 01:01 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:01 AM (EzgxV)
I believe in karma. I can use all the good kind I can get.
And if the price of a book gets the power cut off, so be it. I know how to make candles.
Go write. And, Go Right.
Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 01:02 AM (lDfK8)
Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 01:04 AM (lDfK8)
Ha! Dueling banjos blew the Close Encounters pseudo-scientists out of the water!
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 01:01 AM (zc3Db)
So, would the aliens have the guitar or the banjo? And what does that mean for future alien-human relations?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:04 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:01 AM (EzgxV)
Nah. The other possibility would have been Pete Townshend smashing his guitar and amplifiers and the stage or Jimi Hendrix lighting it on fire and then tearing the gear up. That sort of musical ending would have made a better Close Encounters.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 01:05 AM (zc3Db)
Learning something from a story is totally independent of whether the story is fiction or fact. Stories contain information that the author chooses to put in them. The problem isn't with the story type (as to whether there is something to learn from a story) but whether the author has anything of import to say.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 12:59 AM (zc3Db)
*****
My original statement was that a movie would not "change my life".
Do not recall saying I would not learn something. Good grief.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 01:06 AM (YLidQ)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 21, 2015 01:07 AM (ntObR)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:04 AM (EzgxV)
Spoilers for the upcoming Independence Day movie sequel - older Jeff Goldblum tries his Mac virus trick again on the bigger alien mothership, but of course it doesn't work. In another spark of inspiration/craziness, he tries broadcasting a banjo jam and it, unexpectedly, causes all the alien's heads to implode.
Posted by: Thrawn at December 21, 2015 01:07 AM (wZ2hu)
Apparently, any member of the Palin family (including Trig) is smarter than Canadian Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau.
Barack Obama relieved
Posted by: Debbie Weaselwords Schultz at December 21, 2015 01:07 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Tuna at December 21, 2015 01:07 AM (JSovD)
Then there is the lazy writing; not once, but two times in the story does a main character get captured by The New Order and carted back to Star Destroyer in order to be interrogatted.
On plus side, I thought the new heroes worked and the dialogue was pretty good.
Posted by: Serious Cat at December 21, 2015 01:08 AM (ADIwO)
Spoilers for the upcoming Independence Day movie sequel - older Jeff Goldblum tries his Mac virus trick again on the bigger alien mothership, but of course it doesn't work. In another spark of inspiration/craziness, he tries broadcasting a banjo jam and it, unexpectedly, causes all the alien's heads to implode.
Posted by: Thrawn at December 21, 2015 01:07 AM (wZ2hu)
Slim Whitman?
Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2015 01:09 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Tuna at December 21, 2015 01:07 AM (JSovD)
Depends on the seriousness/comedy mix.
Posted by: Thrawn at December 21, 2015 01:09 AM (wZ2hu)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 01:10 AM (zc3Db)
Sleep?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 21, 2015 01:00 AM
LOL, no. Not ever waking up.
I likes me lots of sleep, just not ready for permanent.
I've got another glass of wine to drink in the near future.
Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 01:10 AM (o/90i)
Posted by: Subotai Bahadur at December 21, 2015 12:56 AM (AbFLR)
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Engine failures aside the ships are also somewhat 'flimsy'. They are flimsy in order to meet the speed requirement.
Posted by: RioBravo at December 21, 2015 01:11 AM (NUqwG)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:01 AM (EzgxV)
Nah. The other possibility would have been Pete Townshend smashing his guitar and amplifiers and the stage or Jimi Hendrix lighting it on fire and then tearing the gear up. That sort of musical ending would have made a better Close Encounters.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 01:05 AM (zc3Db)
Once initial musical dialog is initiated, it goes to 9/8 for ECC....
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:12 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2015 01:09 AM (zt+N6)
Ha, too obvious!
I think that Goldblum fetches the surviving members of Nickelback and their banjo jams are what destroy the second alien wave.
Posted by: Thrawn at December 21, 2015 01:12 AM (wZ2hu)
You bastards are turning on me!
*HAH!*
Here's what you really need to know...
I was raised on The Bible and Charlie Brown. I didn't think much of either until I started getting in trouble.
Take of that what you will. I'll not explain further because it wasn't until I believed in something that I became embarrassed by my actions.
I know Love, now. I know Redemption, now. I know how to laugh, cry, when and why.
I know what it takes to be A Man and I plan to continue on this path until God calls me Home.
I am not embarrassed by "moments" that make me cry as if I'd lost my own Father. Instead, I understand them and build from them.
I become stronger by moments of weakness and movies, songs and Humanity itself offer moments from which to build my character through learned clarity.
Am I still an imperfect douchebag?
I fear I'll always be that.
What I cannot stand is the Impossibility of Greater Achievement. Should I choose to pursue nothing, I'll gather what I fear.
Should I find appropriate emotion and character through small doses of Humanity?
I'll take 'em.
They don't call it "God-Fearing" because you're close to death. It is then that you're closest to God.
I'd like to find that peace through serving while I'm still here. I'd like to find it through Humanity's beautiful creations.
If we are truly created in His image, than we can find His truth behind even the most terrible of lies.
Is that "Word Salad"?
Well, so be it.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:12 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 21, 2015 12:09 AM (wqVD1)
I would say the same thing about Empire Strikes Back.
Posted by: Blano at December 21, 2015 01:12 AM (C3E0x)
Then there is the lazy writing; not once, but two times in the story does a main character get captured by The New Order and carted back to Star Destroyer in order to be interrogatted.
On plus side, I thought the new heroes worked and the dialogue was pretty good.
Posted by: Serious Cat at December 21, 2015 01:08 AM (ADIwO)
Frankly I'll take the only slightly altered X-Wings vs. the Prequels "Brand new ship designs in every movie to sell more and more and more!!!!"
Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2015 01:12 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 01:10 AM (zc3Db)
******
Well, minus any other rebuttal about my post, that is provocative, very intentionally I'm sure.
I am in too fine a mood to engage tonight, so you are just going to have to continue playing with yourself.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 01:14 AM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Thrawn at December 21, 2015 01:15 AM (wZ2hu)
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 21, 2015 12:09 AM (wqVD1)
LOL.
I didn't see that before. Pretty funny stuff.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 01:15 AM (zc3Db)
Well, so be it.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:12 AM
Thanks for that Slap. Also TY for the rec of scrambled eggs for the wife. She could eat em and loved em.
Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 01:17 AM (o/90i)
How inappropriate of me to not say something about Star Wars. Sorrryyyyyy. Here:
I want that t-shirt.
* also *
Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
2 [54 names] 'mindful webworker - what, me read?'
Really? #2? and second week in a row? Maet, have you modified the sockpuppet counting algorithm?
"Hello, my name is Mindful Webworker and I'm a sockpuppeting addict..."
Group: "Hello, Mindful!"
Posted by: mindful webworker - trek wars! at December 21, 2015 01:18 AM (O+0DS)
Luke as the ordinary boy....
Posted by: Colorado Alex
That's just it. Luke isn't ordinary, he's ordained. As is Anakin in the prequels.
As opposed to, say The Three Musketeers, where d'Artagnan is a hick from Fromagetown who sword-fights up the ladder.
Aristocracy vs Meritocracy. Being born into a position in society that you fight to preserve or advance, or achieving a position in the first place by skill, pluck or luck. Both of these are central themes in fictional narratives. And one isn't necessarily better than the other and Chacun son Gout for which one prefers at any given time.
But they're not the same thing.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 01:18 AM (kdS6q)
So, are the aliens the inbred banjo-pickers or the doomed weekenders on a canoe trip?
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 01:18 AM (kpqmD)
I gotta admit, I didn't spend nearly as much time on X-Wing as I did Tie Fighter.
Part of that was the latter was quite a bit harder.
Posted by: Methos at December 21, 2015 01:19 AM (ZbV+0)
You bastards are turning on me!
*HAH!*
Here's what you really need to know...
I was raised on The Bible and Charlie Brown. I didn't think much of either until I started getting in trouble.
Take of that what you will. I'll not explain further because it wasn't until I believed in something that I became embarrassed by my actions.
I know Love, now. I know Redemption, now. I know how to laugh, cry, when and why.
I know what it takes to be A Man and I plan to continue on this path until God calls me Home.
I am not embarrassed by "moments" that make me cry as if I'd lost my own Father. Instead, I understand them and build from them.
I become stronger by moments of weakness and movies, songs and Humanity itself offer moments from which to build my character through learned clarity.
Am I still an imperfect douchebag?
I fear I'll always be that.
What I cannot stand is the Impossibility of Greater Achievement. Should I choose to pursue nothing, I'll gather what I fear.
Should I find appropriate emotion and character through small doses of Humanity?
I'll take 'em.
They don't call it "God-Fearing" because you're close to death. It is then that you're closest to God.
I'd like to find that peace through serving while I'm still here. I'd like to find it through Humanity's beautiful creations.
If we are truly created in His image, than we can find His truth behind even the most terrible of lies.
Is that "Word Salad"?
Well, so be it.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:12 AM (OQ9R7)
Slap, you have taught me things about the nature of my relationship with God and man through your eloquence. Thank you.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:20 AM (EzgxV)
So, are the aliens the inbred banjo-pickers or the doomed weekenders on a canoe trip?
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 01:18 AM (kpqmD)
That's what I was wondering. Opens up new worlds, doesn't it?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:22 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:22 AM (EzgxV)
Would make for some interesting dialogue.
"Drop that there spacesuit, c'mon now. Just take it right off."
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 01:24 AM (kpqmD)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian , bamboozled by love at December 21, 2015 01:24 AM (voOPb)
Posted by: Blano at December 21, 2015 01:24 AM (C3E0x)
Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2015 01:26 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2015 01:26 AM (zt+N6)
You're a pretty decent fellow, for a dead guy.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 01:26 AM (kpqmD)
Nome sain?"
-Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:48 AM (YLidQ)
I do. But if you didn't have a visceral reaction when "Private Ryan", knelt before the grave of "Captain Miller" and asked his wife if he'd been a Good Man and lived a Good Life?
...you might not have the Grace to understand those who have come; and sacrificed before us.
If that scene doesn't jar you. If the opening scene of that movie doesn't jar you?
...wow.
Just...
-wow.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:27 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: PJ at December 21, 2015 01:28 AM (cHuNI)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:22 AM (EzgxV)
Would make for some interesting dialogue.
"Drop that there spacesuit, c'mon now. Just take it right off."
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 01:24 AM (kpqmD)
"He got a real pretty mouth ain't he?"
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:28 AM (EzgxV)
Have I told you lately that I love you?
I'm serious, you know.
I keep my (slightly tattered) Bible on the coffee table these days. I try to read a bit every day. But I'm far from perfect about that - or anythings else for that matter.
Whenever I see a passage or verse referenced here, I look it up.
I must say - I find you and Fenelon to be great inspiration, as well as my big sis (she is going through a living hell AGAIN, and could use prayers ), but has faith I cannot understand.
I won't even pretend to be a believer. But i find a little peace in you being around. Even thinking that I can call you a friend. Keep being you, because you're doing good, man.
Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 01:29 AM (lDfK8)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:30 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at December 21, 2015 12:32 AM (iwLCN)
I pitched hundreds of old VHS' about two years ago in a cleaning fit. They really are quite unwatchable.
We're spoiled.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at December 21, 2015 01:30 AM (WWdgA)
If that scene doesn't jar you. If the opening scene of that movie doesn't jar you?
...wow.
Just...
-wow.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:27 AM (OQ9R7)
****
You are getting way, way out of bounds here. Time to STFD and STFU on this topic as far as it concerns me. You know nothing.
Nome sain? You are way over the line.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 01:30 AM (YLidQ)
I don't have the patience to start a cult, guys.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:32 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Thrawn
Not a good situation when we have to hope for crazy psycho explanation.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 21, 2015 01:33 AM (9YDUz)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 21, 2015 01:33 AM (voOPb)
Posted by: mindful webworker - zzzzz at December 21, 2015 01:34 AM (O+0DS)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 21, 2015 01:35 AM (YJmuy)
Posted by: Blano at December 21, 2015 01:36 AM (C3E0x)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 01:37 AM (kpqmD)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:38 AM (OkAU/)
Posted by: Meremortal at December 21, 2015 01:39 AM (3myMJ)
Oh, we know that.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:40 AM (OkAU/)
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 01:40 AM (BHl9S)
Haven't yet determined whether you're required to accept all applicants o
Posted by: JEM at December 21, 2015 01:41 AM (o+SC1)
Nome sain? You are way over the line.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 01:30 AM (YLidQ)
Actually we don't know what you're saying because you haven't really explained it fully. You keep stating that no movie can change your life with the implication seeming to be that is because you do not have any strong emotional reactions to movies and hence they have no effect on you.
Slap may be extrapolating beyond what you said or implied in an unflattering way but honestly I was kinda thinking along the same lines as well but just didn't feel like delving into it.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 21, 2015 01:42 AM (wqVD1)
-Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 01:30 AM (YLidQ)
I didn't mean to get personal. My sincere apologies for taking it there. Like I said, I'm just a douchebag with a keyboard.
That doesn't excuse my intrusion, invasion and pre-concieved notions; thinking I know anything about you.
I do not. I do not know you. I do not know your heart. I do not know your soul.
Take not from my words a "truth" about others. I only speak for myself. I may question others, but I cannot know a soul from simple words on a screen.
Forgive me, Man With No Party. I was out of line and horribly wrong to question your heart, faith and soul.
In beg your pardon.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:42 AM (OQ9R7)
Oh, we know that.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:40 AM
I've heard there's several around here. Of course not you or me...*shifts eyes around ONT*
Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 01:45 AM (o/90i)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:45 AM (OkAU/)
> I'm a 54 year old consulting engineer and make between $60,000 and $125,000 per year, depending on how hard I work and whether or not there are work projects out there for me.
>
> My girlfriend is 61 and makes about $18,000 per year, working as a part-time mail clerk.
>
> For me, making $60,000 a year, under ObamaCare, the cheapest, lowest grade policy I can buy, which also happens to impose a $5,000 deductible, costs $482 per month.
>
> For my girlfriend, the same exact policy, same deductible, costs $1 per month. That's right, $1 per month. I'm not making this up.
>
> Don't believe me? Just go to http://www.coveredca.gov/ , the ObamaCare website for California and enter the parameters I've mentioned above and see for yourself. By the way, my zip code is 93940. You'll need to enter that.
>
> So OK, clearly ObamaCare is a scheme that involves putting the cost burden of healthcare onto the middle and upper-income wage earners.
>
> But there's a lot more to it. Stick with me.
>
> And before I make my next points, I'd like you to think about something:
>
> I live in Monterey County, in Central California. We have a large land mass but just 426,000 residents - about the population of Colorado Springs or the city of Omaha.
>
> But we do have a large Hispanic population, including a large number of illegal aliens, and to serve this group we have Natividad Medical Center, a massive, Federally subsidized county medical complex that takes up an area about one-third the size of the Chrysler Corporation automobile assembly plant in Belvedere, Illinois (per Google Earth)
>
> Natividad has state-of-the-art operating rooms, Computed Tomography and Magnetic Resonance Imaging, fully equipped, 24 hour emergency room, and much more.
>
> If you have no insurance, if you've been in a drive-by shooting or have overdosed on crack cocaine, this is where you go. And it's essentially free, because almost everyone who ends up in the ER is uninsured.
>
> Last year, 2,735 babies were born at Natividad. 32% of these were born to out-of-wedlock teenage mothers, 93% of which were Hispanic.
>
> Less than 20% could demonstrate proof of citizenship, and 71% listed their native language as Spanish. Of these 876 births, only 40 were covered under [any kind of] private health insurance. The taxpayers paid for the other 836.
>
> And in case you were wondering about the entire population - all 2,735 births - less than 24% involved insured coverage or even partial payment on behalf of the patient to the hospital in exchange for services. Keep this in mind as we move forward.
>
> Now consider this:
>
> If I want to upgrade my policy to a low-deductible premium policy, such as what I had with my last employer, my cost is $886 per month.
>
> But my girlfriend can upgrade her policy to the very same level, for just $4 per month.
>
> That's right, $4 per month. $48 per year for a zero-deductible, premium healthcare policy - the kind of thing you get when you work at IBM (except of course, IBM employees pay an average of $170 per month out of pocket for their coverage).
>
> I mean, it's bad enough that I will be forced to subsidize the ObamaCare scheme in the first place. But even if I agreed with the basic scheme, which of course I do not, I would never agree to subsidize premium policies.
>
> If I have to pay $482 a month for a budget policy, I sure as hell do not want the guy I'm subsidizing to get a better policy, for less than 1% of what I have to fork out each month for a low-end policy.
>
> Why must I pay $482 per month for something the other guy gets for a dollar?
>
> And why should the other guy get to buy an $886 policy for $4 a month?
>
> Think about this: I have to pay $10,632 a year for the same thing that the other guy can get for $48.
>
>
> $10,000 of net income is 60 days of full time work as an engineer; $48 is something I could make collecting aluminum cans and plastic bottles, one day a month.
>
> Are you with me on this? Are you starting to get an idea what ObamaCare is really about?
>
> ObamaCare is not about dealing with inequities in the healthcare system. That's just the cover story.
>
> The real story is that it is a massive, political power grab.
>
> Do you think anyone who can insure himself with a premium policy for $4 a month will vote for anyone but the political party that provides him such a deal?
>
> ObamaCare is about enabling, subsidizing, and expanding the Left's political power base, at taxpayer expense.
>
> Why would I vote for anyone but a Democrat if I can have babies for $4 a month?
>
> For that matter, why would I go to college or strive for a better job or income if it means I have to pay real money for healthcare coverage? Heck, why study engineering when I can be a schlub for $20K per year and buy a new F-150 with all the money I'm saving?
>
> And think about those $4-a-month babies - think in terms of propagation models. Think of just how many babies will be born to irresponsible, under-educated mothers. Will we get a new crop of brain surgeons and particle physicists from the dollar baby club, or will we need more cops, criminal courts and prisons?
>
> One thing you can be certain of: At $4 a month, they'll multiply, and multiply, and multiply.
>
> ObamaCare: It's all about political power.
>
> Remember folks, November 2016 is just around the corner. If you want to continue this kind of redistribution of wealth, then don't "forward" this email. But if you are sick and tired of the money grab by the current administration, then "forward" this email to everyone in your Address Book. VOTE IN 2016!!!!
>
> One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. Plato
Posted by: Theforgottenman at December 21, 2015 01:46 AM (A8sWO)
Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 01:48 AM (lDfK8)
Oh well, try to be nice, make talk. Then some dick comes along and ruins it all. I ain't naming names YMMV.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:48 AM (OkAU/)
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 21, 2015 01:42 AM (wqVD1)
******
Not delving into it would be good. My original comment, way back when, was directed at a comment that the new Star Wars movie would "change your life".
Yeah, No. If your life can be upturned by a movie, then IMO you are doing it wrong.
I
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 01:48 AM (YLidQ)
Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 01:50 AM (lDfK8)
And let me clarify that this is really about my annoyance over the lost opportunity to have an interesting conversation about whether movies (or fiction in general) can change your life and what changing your life means in different contexts. Instead people just viewed it as trying to start a fight.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 21, 2015 01:50 AM (wqVD1)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:50 AM (OkAU/)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:52 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:48 AM
Well, tonight's been mild, so far. OK, I'm old...what does YMMV mean?
Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 01:53 AM (o/90i)
-Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:45 AM (OkAU/)
I'm completely at ease, Sir. It is simply a turn of phrase. I know in my heart where I was coming from, R.K.
I ask this because a friend was so repulsed by my words that he warned me of something that I had no idea I was getting close-to.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:53 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:48 AM
Well, tonight's been mild, so far. OK, I'm old...what does YMMV mean?
Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 01:53 AM (o/90i)
Your Mileage May Vary.
Gotten any emails recently?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:55 AM (EzgxV)
Oh, has nothing to do with being old or young. Your Mileage May Vary.
Dont know what you might get.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:55 AM (OkAU/)
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 21, 2015 01:50 AM (wqVD1)
*****
Why can't this discussion continue? I provided one dissenting opinion. If I have that kind of power, then I am gonna hafta broaden my horizons.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 01:56 AM (YLidQ)
Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 01:56 AM (lDfK8)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:56 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: cthulhu
-----------------
You ate Chipotle again, didn't you?
Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 01:58 AM (lDfK8)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:56 AM (OQ9R7)
*****
Accepted, and thank you.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 01:59 AM (YLidQ)
"Friends" say stupid shit. I've said stupid shit to friends over the years. Time plays it all out.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:59 AM (OkAU/)
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 01:59 AM (BHl9S)
Nothing to see here! LOL!
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:59 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:01 AM (BHl9S)
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 21, 2015 01:50 AM
I think that would be an interesting conversation. Sorry it didn't develop the way you hoped.
You should try to bring it up again in an ONT. Maybe not tied to Star Wars as much as to let it maybe move more it the direction you want.
But Morons are gonna Moron. :0
Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 02:01 AM (o/90i)
Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 02:02 AM (lDfK8)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 02:03 AM (OkAU/)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:55 AM
Indeed, just found it.
Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 02:03 AM (o/90i)
Posted by: cthulhu
-----------------
You ate Chipotle again, didn't you?
Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 01:58 AM (lDfK
I could say that we'll be lucky if we avoid civil war in the next 12 months, but I can easily imagine contingencies that would be worse. Summing probabilities, civil war may be a best case. Gold, silver, brass, and lead, my friends.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 02:04 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:05 AM (BHl9S)
I certainly wasn't trying to be "helpful"...
(Not that that's my job, really. You know.)
I expect he'll offer me the same grace in the future!
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:06 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:07 AM (BHl9S)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 02:08 AM (OkAU/)
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:09 AM (BHl9S)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 02:10 AM (OkAU/)
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:15 AM (BHl9S)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 02:16 AM (OkAU/)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 02:17 AM (qES5k)
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:18 AM (BHl9S)
...parsecs?
Screw it.
...minutes!
Hit it, Chewie!
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:18 AM (OQ9R7)
No, you're not. The average 100hp JD wiil weigh more than than the equivalent Kubota.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 02:20 AM (OkAU/)
I'm sure we have all heard of many different examples of this, with people seeing things that opened new worlds up to them. In The Jerk, it was white music on the radio
But that sort of circumstance can happen pretty easily. There are so many stories of dancers who caught the bug from a movie, for example.
Star Wars, though it isn't science fiction or anything of the sort, could still kindle a child's romance with the idea of space, thereby setting the direction their life would take. No matter how silly the story might be, one particular portrayal of life in space might connect with them, somehow, and send them on their way.
There really is no reasonable argument that movies and stories can't change someone's life, since there are countless examples of people who have reported exactly that. And it doesn't matter if they are fact or fiction. A fictional war movie could touch a nerve with someone that gets him into the military, changing what he might have thought he would do before.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 02:20 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:21 AM (BHl9S)
"I have no idea what the hell we just saw."
She looked at me and didn't want to laugh because she was pissed about spending the money.
When I laughed at her she laughed back!
...and she was NOT a "laugher!"
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:22 AM (OQ9R7)
I have always been a reader (It's a bit less as I get older, or rather I read the same books over and over) and yes, books have changed my life. in a positive way.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 02:23 AM (qES5k)
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:23 AM (BHl9S)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 02:17 AM
Hope the service went well tonight that you were apprehensive about.
Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 02:24 AM (o/90i)
*ducks*
"The first rule of government. Why build one when you can build two at twice the cost?"
Art Bell Line: "Wanna Take A Ride"
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:25 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 02:26 AM (OkAU/)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:27 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:28 AM (BHl9S)
Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 02:29 AM (o/90i)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:29 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:29 AM (BHl9S)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:25 AM (OQ9R7)
Contact is a guilty pleasure movie for me. There is so much about the story that irks me ... but I really love watching the movie. And John Hurt's character is extra-cool.
It's really a shame they kill it with that silly part at the end, but I usually leave it after she comes back from her journey and remain satisfied with it like that.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 02:29 AM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:29 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at December 21, 2015 02:30 AM (FtrY1)
That was the first time I'd heard "Occam's Razor". To the dismay and belittlement of my High School teachers.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:31 AM (OQ9R7)
-Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at December 21, 2015 02:30 AM (FtrY1)
In this Administration? Can it fog a mirror?
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:32 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:32 AM (BHl9S)
They'll plant cookies from one of their sites that are meant to be picked-up by their other sites to track you across the entire internet.
But there's a reason that Maet, for instance, has a gmail account. They're rabid about showing their work and keeping the competition from datamining you. I just sent two emails from two different tabs logged to the same gmail and got a warning notice. They know their stuff.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 02:33 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:33 AM (BHl9S)
How kind of you to ask. :^) Yes, it did; I'm sure the prayers helped. I don't know if the coffee served at the refreshment time was caffeinated, but I think so but now I am wired. ;^)
the fellow who can't stand me (bit whom I had never met before) was there. Fortunately, he had his darling little baby (whom I also hadn't met) so we didn't have to talk about why he's pissed off at me, at God and most other people. And there was a woman on the membership list whomIi also hadn't met who was very dear and I got a chance to pray with her afterwards.
So now, I have no more services I have to officiate at until the beginning of the New Year (unless the lay ministers get sick) and I can just go to on for Christmas Eve or Day where I can just sit at another church Being "on " for 25 years t's good to have break and just sit in the pew I'm hoping I will be able to do that because I think I'm getting the son's cold.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 02:34 AM (qES5k)
Posted by: MAx at December 21, 2015 02:35 AM (LAliD)
I've seen some films quite a few times/ They haven't my life but I enjoy the everythime I have seen them or sometimes get something out of them that I haven't before.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 02:38 AM (qES5k)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:31 AM (OQ9R7)
Heh.
An excellent example, Slap. I would bet that quite a few people learned about Occam's Razor from that movie. It's interesting, because Occam's Razor is very intuitive and natural - people operate according to that principle without instruction. But that was also one of the problems with the movie that irked me - Occam's Razor is a principle of scientific aesthetics, not a principle of science, itself. I happen to be a believer in it, but it is only that - a belief. Einstein was a big believer in it (and most scientists are) in that they expect an elegant universe. The laws governing it have to be few and they have to be beautiful. Ugly theories are generally rejected based on little more than their ugliness. These rejections have long turned out to be correct, but it's still largely aesthetic considerations.
Anyway ... Contact definitely brought the idea of elegant science to many, many people and might have turned a few lives just from that little point, itself.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 02:40 AM (zc3Db)
I'm assuming it's that crazy 'Lost in Space' money.
Posted by: Epobirs at December 21, 2015 02:40 AM (IdCqF)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 02:44 AM (qES5k)
Find solace and joy in the peaceful hours of the Holiday, as you take your time to rejoice at your leisure!
As it seems oddly opposed, I would imagine Our Lord taking comfort in your rest In His Name; so as to celebrate His birth.
As you have taken so many days in the faith and name of others, so be your rest and relaxation, having His name carry to to Peace during this season.
Might God Bless you, as He has so many others.
Love and Blessings,
-Slapweasel, "The Douche With the Keyboard".
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:50 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 02:56 AM (qES5k)
Anyway, to a person, we loved it. Speaking for myself, I was euphoric and drained upon leaving the theater. I know I'm weird, and I know that some people will wonder how someone cam be so involved with a piece of fiction...but it made me feel like a kid again. And in this day and age, that's very f'n rare. No apologies here.
Posted by: Biff Boffo at December 21, 2015 02:57 AM (Y0FCw)
LOL... the "Unified Theory" is yet to be found.
I loved how a scientist had to finally admit that she "Had Faith" that something she could not prove existed.
No film. No broadcast. Only one witness, (in that case), that felt that love.
Through love and something you can't explain to anyone else, they cannot believe you. Something you witness that you know to be true.
...In your heart because that love is So Great.
Through Faith, I am carried.
Corny films and all! LOL!
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:58 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 01:40 AM (BHl9S)
Does Nevada still have a firing squad as an option for the death penalty?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2015 02:59 AM (7MWCL)
-Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2015 02:59 AM (7MWCL)
I not? We send The Political Hat out there with White Zombie, Megadeth, Alice in Chains and Man O' War.
That'll kill roaches, dead.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 03:04 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 03:07 AM (EzgxV)
You're not a douche. I am not always here late at night, but I think you were missing for a while, correct.? Good to see you back. i don't think anyone here is a douche (I don't like that term). except possibly people who come here who are leftists who don't want to know anyone as a "real" person (as much as that is possible on an internet website) but want to spew their talking points and even those sorts of people may be o.k. in real life, escaped that they'rre leftists. I think there are also people here who get really angry (of course we're all angry about certain things) and possibly lonely who don't put on any filters before they type exactly what they think as if they're some sort of Battle with people they don't know and the keyboard is their weapon of choice. You're not one of excessively angry people. That's good. You seem to enjoy chatting with people here.le
You have a beautful way with prayer, Slap, which people appreciate. You'd be an asset on a prayer line. Some of then require the endorsement of a minister who knows someone personally, but I don't know if they all do. Those prayer lines can be a great thing. While you sometimes get people with obvious mental problems (paranoid etc) you are less likely to get people who use them as a way to masturbate while they talk to you. You do get that on a phone reassurance line. They're just too cheap to use the sex phone line which require a fee . And no, I have never volunteered on one of those (sex phone line)-just the prayer and reassurance phone lines.
Love and blessings to you too, Slap.
Good night now
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 03:13 AM (qES5k)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 03:13 AM (qES5k)
-Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 03:07 AM (EzgxV)
*Here's To Beer!*
*clink*
wait...
Oohhhh...
Heinlein.
*hic*
*Women and cats will do as they please. Men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea.*
*burp*
...okay. Not his best quote.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 03:16 AM (OQ9R7)
Too much information, I know.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2015 03:16 AM (7MWCL)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 21, 2015 03:17 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 03:17 AM (OQ9R7)
Too much information, I know."
-Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2015 03:16 AM (7MWCL)
Like double Doppler Radar!
*cheers!*
*falls over*
*gets up*
I gotta pee.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 03:19 AM (OQ9R7)
-Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 21, 2015 03:17 AM (iQIUe)
*spits beer across room*
Where the heck did that come from?!?
*dabs everything*
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 03:21 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2015 03:16 AM (7MWCL)
Actually, it's this kind of unexpected glimpse into interesting things that make AoSHQ so much fun.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2015 03:23 AM (Zu3d9)
-Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2015 03:23 AM (Zu3d9)
^Points at CharlieBrown'sDildo.^
(One day, God will ask me about that, I'm quite sure.)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 03:26 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2015 03:16 AM (7MWCL)
Hey I'm watching them run casing so it could always be worse
Posted by: the real ch3 at December 21, 2015 03:32 AM (F5lCF)
Slap: "He said what I was thinking."
...and I was just a wee bit drunk.
...*cough*
...Sir.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 03:33 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 03:36 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 03:38 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 03:39 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2015 03:16 AM (7MWCL)
Hey I'm watching them run casing so it could always be worse
Posted by: the real ch3 at December 21, 2015 03:32 AM (F5lCF)
Watching them work stuck pipe is always crowd-pleaser. Or working a hole that is falling apart. Widespread use of invert mud has sure cut down on the number of days lost due to hole problems here.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2015 03:43 AM (7MWCL)
-Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2015 03:43 AM (7MWCL)
You sure talk a lot of shit.
Posted by: The Local Whorehouse for the Elderly and Infirmed at December 21, 2015 03:46 AM (OQ9R7)
recommended to me and I really like the acting of John Hurt so i guess i
should see it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 02:38 AM
Contact is an enjoyable flick. It's weird... well, Sagan... but, it's done well. It's hardly a fave, but I enjoy watching it whenever it's on. John Hurt is great as always, but it's also got Tom Skerrit, Matthew McConnaghy, Jake Busey, David Morse et al to round out the cast. Watch it, it's interesting.
Posted by: otho at December 21, 2015 03:53 AM (EWg9n)
Posted by: John Hinckley at December 21, 2015 03:54 AM (OQ9R7)
Posted by: John Hinckley at December 21, 2015 03:56 AM (OQ9R7)
Man vs Mars (The Martian)
Man vs Fish (In the heart of the sea)
Lesbian vs. Family Court (Carol)
Man's Squeakhole vs Bear (The Revenant)
100 lb Woman vs Delta Force (Sicario)
Nerds vs Nerds (Star Wars Part 6)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 21, 2015 04:12 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2015 04:20 AM (7MWCL)
It's morning horde, hopes yours is good.
Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2015 04:24 AM (k0xxN)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 21, 2015 04:24 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2015 04:39 AM (uZNvH)
Posted by: Hanoverfist at December 21, 2015 04:41 AM (IKya9)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2015 04:42 AM (uZNvH)
Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2015 04:43 AM (k0xxN)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2015 04:48 AM (uZNvH)
Posted by: Hanoverfist at December 21, 2015 04:48 AM (IKya9)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2015 04:50 AM (uZNvH)
Posted by: Hanoverfist at December 21, 2015 04:53 AM (IKya9)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 21, 2015 04:55 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2015 05:01 AM (uZNvH)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 21, 2015 05:19 AM (jJRIy)
Posted by: torabora at December 21, 2015 05:21 AM (ncwJ7)
Posted by: Admiral Barack Ob+mao at December 21, 2015 05:27 AM (ncwJ7)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 21, 2015 05:33 AM (jJRIy)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2015 05:40 AM (uZNvH)
Posted by: Infidel at December 21, 2015 06:01 AM (gHQSg)
Posted by: fluffy at December 21, 2015 06:03 AM (AfsKp)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 06:08 AM (nGyiN)
It would be an embarrassment if it weren't true.
For a navy with a long history of excellence, this is humiliating. Salamander's article is spot-on.
Posted by: RobM1981 at December 21, 2015 06:09 AM (zurJC)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:11 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:13 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 21, 2015 06:16 AM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:19 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 21, 2015 06:21 AM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Infidel at December 21, 2015 06:22 AM (gHQSg)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 06:24 AM (nGyiN)
Have some ice cream.
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/selection-du-weekend-171-11.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 06:26 AM (nGyiN)
http://tinyurl.com/2ky97e
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:26 AM (ptqRm)
http://tinyurl.com/pu3h3pu
Nice quick dinner at Grano's Pasta Bar, then a walk along the block looking at the lights.
Almost continuous police helo presence in vicinity, if not directly overhead.
Carolers walking the community singing as well.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:29 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: the Chicken at December 21, 2015 06:29 AM (AfsKp)
Posted by: The Couch at December 21, 2015 06:31 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: The Toaster at December 21, 2015 06:32 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 21, 2015 06:33 AM (VdICR)
http://wwlp.com/2015/12/19/baby-born-in-mass-named-jedi-in-honor-of-star-wars/
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 06:34 AM (nGyiN)
Posted by: Infidel at December 21, 2015 06:37 AM (gHQSg)
It got the parents lots o' publicity.
Teevee news in Boston was all over this, with newscasters ooohing and cooing and ahh-ing about Adorable Baby Jedi. Which of course gave them more opportunity to babble incoherently about the movie....
Not sure this is any worse than naming the kid LaQuandra, or Alopecia. Coulda been "Mohammed," you know.
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 21, 2015 06:39 AM (z/vax)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 06:43 AM (gf8BH)
It's a local B'More thing, but really is a festive time for the area.
My understanding is that the particular block has binding restrictions which require any new homeowner to continue the tradition of the lights.
It's also the same area where "Cafe Hon" from cooking show fame is located.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:46 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:47 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Infidel at December 21, 2015 06:48 AM (gHQSg)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 21, 2015 06:49 AM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 06:49 AM (nGyiN)
Ah.....oops.
I love his mission statement at the masthead.
Total mishmash of buzzwords and tricky phrases which tend to appear in FitRep narratives.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:50 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Infidel at December 21, 2015 06:50 AM (gHQSg)
http://www.privateislandsonline.com/islands/montego-caye
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 06:52 AM (nGyiN)
So next year. I am thinking I am going to bug out. Belize?
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 21, 2015 06:49 AM (jJRIy)
It's on my short list of places. If we get an Establishment candidate, or if Hillary wins, it's time to GTFO.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 21, 2015 06:52 AM (J+mig)
And a might fine Navy day it is.
Coffee?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:47 AM (ptqRm)
Yeah way ahead of ya....Already dropped the family off at the Airport and I am in my Officer
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 06:52 AM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:53 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 06:52 AM (gf8BH)
Do you normally text while you're doing that?
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 21, 2015 06:55 AM (J+mig)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 06:52 AM (gf8BH) Say what you will about the Air Force, seems like the Navy is now light years ahead in fringe benefits.
Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at December 21, 2015 06:56 AM (22uju)
"My only Christmas wish? Would Jimmah Carter die. Sorry, I am so sick of his ass."
Soon.
Posted by: The Reaper at December 21, 2015 06:56 AM (XgfBI)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 21, 2015 06:57 AM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 06:57 AM (nGyiN)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:59 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Officer at December 21, 2015 07:00 AM (22uju)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 07:01 AM (ptqRm)
The consensus was, it was way to long a time to spend watching a movie.
And they would have found a better time doing something else.
Posted by: obsidian at December 21, 2015 10:35 AM (ARK2U)
Re: the LCS- "Littoral" means "near shore". In WWII we had an EXCELLENT "littoral combat vessel". It was called a PT BOAT.
Posted by: DENNIS SKEA at December 21, 2015 04:12 PM (McHeU)
It's our only hope...
Posted by: qmark at December 21, 2015 07:20 PM (wkUEj)
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