Overnight Open Thread (12-20-2015) – Star Wars Edition

Quote of the Day I

Well Big Navy, this is your fault, Shipmate. You elected to create a "too big to fail" shipbuilding program that had no Plan-B when LCS proved what people started to say over a decade ago. You did that in order to meet you own selfish career goals - the needs of the warfighter be damned. You decided to throw more money and hard work of Sailors at a program that was known to be a failure by everyone you refused to listen to. No, scratch that - those you eliminated from the conversation.

You did it because you were more loyal to people than to service - and you created a command climate that demanded happy talk. In your arrogance, you did all you could do for your reasons, not the needs of the Navy decades after you started wallowing in the food trough in your post-Navy career in the belly of the beast you once defended your Sailors from. There is no reason why we don't have a different sub-6,000T class of warship under construction other than systemic and rewarded almost Ottoman levels of bureaucratic, ossified professional malpractice.

-- CDR Salamander who is not a fan of the LCS (littoral combat ship). The LCS seems to be unwanted and unloved by all except for the top Navy brass who have gone all in on it.

Quote of the Day II

"The mayoress, Miranda de Vries, said she was shocked at the violence caused by an estimated 2,500 people in the town of 27,000 that lies near the city of Utrecht." When ten percent of your population is rioting, it's not just a fringe phenomenon.

-- Glenn Reynolds

Quote of the Day III - The Order Makes a Difference Edition

The government in the Netherlands has clarified that it is legal for driving instructors to offer lessons in return for sex, as long as the students are over the age of 18.

However, it is illegal to offer sex in return for lessons.

Quote of the Day IV

Well...it's not Prometheus.

-- AoSHQ Ben reviewing Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Quote of the Day V

The Force Awakens is what you get when Star Wars is directed by somebody who doesn't hate and resent the franchise.

-- Moe Lane (@moelane) December 18, 2015

This Is Not a Photoshop

Screen-Shot-2015-12-19-at-1.07.46-PM

The Secret To Star Wars' Staying Power

Stop Complaining About Star Wars And Enjoy It

The Plinkett Star Wars Prequel Reviews

Last week I was talking with someone at work about how much the prequels sucked and pointed him to these reviews. I ended up re-watching all of them and enjoyed them anew and discovered a few more hidden details. The last half of the Revenge of the Sith review in particular had a lot of insights about what made the movies so flat and emotionally empty.

One that stood out for me was that there were essentially two kinds of scenes in the movies - action sequences and scenes with people just talking while sitting on a coach or stopping in mid-walk. The problem is that Lucas was focused on the action scenes and ended up writing/directing the obligatory talking scenes so unimaginatively and in such a dull and plodding way that it robbed the resulting action scenes of any emotional impact.

Another was that there were way too many lightsabers and lightsaber fights in the prequels. One key point he makes is that sword fights in movies (and that's what lightsaber fights really are) are ultimately about the culmination of the conflict between the fighters rather than the fight itself. And a short intense and brutal fight with inelegant swordplay has far more emotional impact than a drawn-out beautifully choreographed but sterile fight where nothing really seems to be at stake i.e. every fight in the prequels.

(videos below)

The Phantom Menace Review (1 of 7)

The Attack of the Clones Review (1 of 9)

The Revenge of the Sith Review (complete)

Mark Steyn Reveals That He Never Got the Appeal of Star Wars At All

Sci-fi wasn't boffo before Star Wars - if anything, rather the opposite: It was regarded as the upmarket intellectual end of genre fiction. Then George Lucas came along, and hijacked the entire field, with little more than a guy with a bucket on his head, a dog with a stick-on moustache, a talking garbage can and a princess wearing two cinnamon rolls on her ears.

But what do I know? Star Wars is the most successful movie ever. It's supposed to be "epic" and "primal", but, if so, it beats me. A film such as, say, High Noon, which takes place in real time - 90 minutes - on one dusty monochrome main street lined with plywood house fronts and whose only special effect is Tex Ritter's plaintive rendition of the title song, is truly primal: it's big at its core. Star Wars, it seems to me, is epic only in the sense that the telephone book is epic.

Well no man is perfect. So I'll forgive him for this. And for his feline-inspired music videos.

Katherine Timpf discovers the dark side of the Star Wars fans' lack of humor

Of Course the Empire Is Evil -- and So Is Sonny Bunch

How To Drive Star Wars Fans Crazy

Step 1: point out that the droids are effectively slaves.

Step 2: Contend that Chewbacca is female, and in love with Han.

Step 3: Wear this t-shirt.

starwarsfan2shirt

Star Wars: Every Scene From I-VI Charted by Character Interactions

starwarschart1

How To Watch the Original Star Wars Trilogy As It Was Before George Lucas Screwed It Up

Torrent is your friend

The Imperial March

Never has an evil empire had such a great theme. Makes you want to sign right up and go crush some rebels.

Star Wars Minus Star Wars

Star Wars Minus Star Wars is a video essay on the original film that doesn't use a single shot, sound, or snippet of music from the original movie. Instead, it strings together scenes and sounds from movies that influenced George Lucas in making the film and also from movies that have been influenced by Star Wars.

Ken Burns Does Star Wars

burnsstarwars

Triumph The Insult Comic Dog vs Star Wars Fans

One of the best Triumph lines ever:

You look like some kind of super-nerd. It looks like you were built in a laboratory out of parts from lesser nerds.

Proof That Jar Jar Is a Sith Lord

Tom Shales and NPR Try to Make Sense of a Movie Called 'Star Wars' Back in 1977

Congratulations, You've Been Cast In Star Wars! Will You Ever Work Again?

'Star Wars' porn sales up 500% ahead of 'The Force Awakens' premiere

Sexy Star Wars Pictures

hot-chewbacca

Weekly Commenter Standings

Top 10 commenters:
1 [510 comments] 'Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car ' [71.64 posts/day]
2 [507 comments] 'Harry Paratestes'
3 [443 comments] 'J.J. Sefton'
4 [437 comments] 'Ricardo Kill'
5 [394 comments] 'Nevergiveup'
6 [391 comments] 'Anna Puma'
7 [390 comments] 'Christopher Taylor'
8 [369 comments] 'Mike Hammer, etc., etc.'
9 [360 comments] 'Slapweasel (Cold1), '
10 [341 comments] 'ThisBeingMilt'

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [86 names] 'The Political Hat' [12.08 unique names/day]
2 [54 names] 'mindful webworker - what, me read?'
3 [53 names] 'Nigel West Dickens'
4 [48 names] 'Bertram Cabot Jr.'
5 [40 names] 'andycanuck'
6 [37 names] 'Cicero (@cicero)'
7 [37 names] 'Ready For Hillary!!11!!'
8 [36 names] 'Barack Hussein Obama'
9 [35 names] 'Doctor Fish'
10 [29 names] 'Prince Ludwig the #Problematic'

The group. Banned on 12 universities.

Where it's at - the Twitter

Tonight's post brought to you by a Fox Executive's 1976 Memo on Star Wars:

foxexec1

foxexec2

foxexec3

foxexec4

Notice: Posted by permission of AceCorp LLC and LucasFilm Ltd.

Posted by: Maetenloch at 11:07 PM




Comments

(Jump to bottom of page)

1 First?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2015 11:09 PM (Yf6eY)

2 Hmm, this can't be first.

Posted by: Farmer at December 20, 2015 11:09 PM (o/90i)

3 No way.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2015 11:09 PM (Yf6eY)

4 Holy freaking content Maet. Nice ONT. Thanks!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:10 PM (YLidQ)

5 Corgis called

Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2015 11:11 PM (Yf6eY)

6 And with that, we bid the lovely Rachel adieu...

Posted by: t-bird at December 20, 2015 11:12 PM (mxCgt)

7 Car driver runs over up to 40 pedestrians on sidewalk in Vegas Strip. Cops have arrested perp and are giving a field sobriety test. No name released yet, by Allah's holy balls. See the sock link.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2015 11:13 PM (DLIIY)

8 missed the top honors on the wall of shame by 3 posts?

Oh come on! I demand a recount. Check for hanging chads.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:13 PM (AkOaV)

9 I'm with Steyn. Star Wars is ok. Star Trek is ok. The spin offs are mostly ok, but people losing their minds over this stuff is crazy.

Posted by: Angus Irving at December 20, 2015 11:14 PM (LlvHE)

10 Speaking of Star Wars, the good people at RedLetterMedia have just released their Half in the Bag review of the movie. Spoilers, they thought it sucked...

Just kidding, they liked it. Major spoiler warning though, if you choose to watch this episode.

http://tinyurl.com/h4y2ltr

Posted by: Thrawn at December 20, 2015 11:15 PM (wZ2hu)

11
*SJW Wars spoilers*

Trump/Hux 2016

http://webm.host/d8f17/

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 20, 2015 11:16 PM (kdS6q)

12 Here's local L.V. NBC affiliate twitter feed:
https://twitter.com/news3lv

Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2015 11:16 PM (DLIIY)

13 Those Drunken Morning Comments are coming back to haunt me.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:17 PM (OQ9R7)

14 missed the top honors on the wall of shame by 3 posts?
Oh come on! I demand a recount. Check for hanging chads.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:13 PM

OK Al, I suppose you only want to count certain days? No dice-

Posted by- USSC, 2000 before we lost our minds

Posted by: Farmer at December 20, 2015 11:17 PM (o/90i)

15 Time.

Posted by: Ralph at December 20, 2015 11:17 PM (D/1P4)

16 I don't understand why, over in the sidebar, CBD says it's a "victory" that a Muslim cabbie was fined for refusing to let a female passenger sit in the front seat with him. I don't like the way Islam treats women, but a cabbie should have the right to control who sits in front, for whatever reason he wants, without the government butting in. How is this case any different from Christian bakeries being fined for refusing to bake gay wedding cakes? It's not a "victory," small or otherwise. Businesses should have the right to refuse service to anybody for whatever reason they choose. It's called freedom of association.

Posted by: gp at December 20, 2015 11:17 PM (mk9aG)

17
A six-foot penis made of Christmas lights in a window of a luxury apartment in Brooklyn, has raised concern in fellow residents of the area, who think it might offend passersby.

http://tinyurl.com/qcnb66h

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 20, 2015 11:18 PM (kdS6q)

18 Those Drunken Morning Comments are coming back to haunt me.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:17 PM (OQ9R7)

*****

They always do, Amigo. 26 minutes until they are no lobump*valid fodder for discussion.

*Fist bump*

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:18 PM (YLidQ)

19 I'm with Steyn. Saw the first Star Wars as a teen, liked it okay. But interest faded fast. Never saw another. Also, can't stand stories that never end. You've got two hours to tell your story and be done with it.

Posted by: rrpjr at December 20, 2015 11:19 PM (s/yC1)

20 18

Freaking tablet

"No longer valid fodder"

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:19 PM (YLidQ)

21 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2015 11:20 PM (YJmuy)

22 Howdy, beloved Horde!

I'm so out of the habit of going to movies, I probably will never see this latest Star Wars. What a stick in the mud I am!

Posted by: Emmie at December 20, 2015 11:20 PM (AuYnk)

23 A six-foot penis made of Christmas lights in a window of a luxury apartment in Brooklyn, has raised concern in fellow residents of the area, who think it might offend passersby.

http://tinyurl.com/qcnb66h
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 20, 2015 11:18 PM (kdS6q)

*****

I would suspect it was Bloomberg, but that dude is short.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:21 PM (YLidQ)

24 Thought I was banned. Whew.


Posted by: Ralph at December 20, 2015 11:21 PM (D/1P4)

25 Thanks for your concern.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2015 11:21 PM (DLIIY)

26 I'm so out of the habit of going to movies, I probably will never see this latest Star Wars. What a stick in the mud I am!

Just wait for a bit, then Kodi is your friend.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 20, 2015 11:21 PM (YJmuy)

27 Are you a bastard if you don't have a valid fodder?

Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2015 11:22 PM (DLIIY)

28 Yo, Blanco. Sup?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:22 PM (YLidQ)

29 You've got two hours to tell your story and be done with it.
Posted by: rrpjr at December 20, 2015 11:19 PM (s/yC1)

*ahem*.

The keys to success in the movie business is have a fevered fan base and good-looking young actors to pull in the uninitiated.

Posted by: Marvel's 30+ Year Comic Book Movie-Making Plan at December 20, 2015 11:22 PM (wZ2hu)

30 It's called freedom of association.
Posted by: gp


Which has been illegal for the past fifty years.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 20, 2015 11:24 PM (FkBIv)

31 Re LCS:

USN started building hi/lo (OHPerry FFG) back when I exited high school in the wake of the SEA collapse, looked at the military and concluded maybe the future wasn't good, voted Reagan with my ballot but not my ass.

Frightening to see what the USN considers their 'low' now.

Posted by: JEM at December 20, 2015 11:24 PM (o+SC1)

32 "It's called freedom of association."
-Posted by: gp at December 20, 2015 11:17 PM (mk9aG)

Freedom of Religion and Association allows for a Moslem to not allow alcohol in their cab.

--If they own the cab.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:24 PM (OQ9R7)

33 Hey everybody. CAUTION, below are my Star Wars spoilers!!...

- Carrie Fisher ain't so hot no mo.
- Darth Vader turns out to be Luke Skywalker's father.
- Rosebud was Luke's sled.

Hope this doesn't ruin it for anybody.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2015 11:24 PM (ntObR)

34 from teh tweets re vegas:

>>>UPDATE: Police sources, female driver who drove onto strip sidewalk was drunk and had a 3 yr old child in car w her.

fuckin' women, amiright?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:25 PM (AkOaV)

35 I'm back home after the stepdaughter wedding trip. Things went well.

Many sincere thanks for the prayers offered on my behalf. I definitely saw answers.

You people are the best!

Posted by: Emmie at December 20, 2015 11:25 PM (AuYnk)

36 Happy-ish Sunday Night, all y'all ...

Posted by: Adriane the Ethnic Food Critic ... at December 20, 2015 11:25 PM (oZKRQ)

37 Freedom of Religion and Association allows for a Moslem to not allow alcohol in their cab.

--If they own the cab.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:24 PM (OQ9R7)

*****

Uummm, this applies to everyone who owns cabs, not just Moose Limbs.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:26 PM (YLidQ)

38 Well no man is perfect. So I'll forgive him for this. And for his feline-inspired music videos.

Never trust a man who likes showtunes. Period.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 20, 2015 11:26 PM (9YDUz)

39 -- CDR Salamander who is not a fan of the LCS (littoral combat ship). The LCS seems to be unwanted and unloved by all except for the top Navy brass who have gone all in on it.

But at least they're using "green" fuel at 20 times the price of the normal, evil, Earth-killing, plentiful variety.

And I have to say I don't know why anyone has a big problem with a clittoral combat ship. Women are going to be joining the ranks of all the front lines so I think it only makes sense that we have some clittoral ships in service, too.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 20, 2015 11:27 PM (zc3Db)

40 re: vegas

apparently the woman was driving a chevy volt.

ay yi yi.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:27 PM (AkOaV)

41 I don't mind a mini series that goes on for eight hours or so as long as the story is in sequence, but skipping forward and back, 'we go forward, we go back' just doesn't make any sense, unless you have a time machine or magical powers.

Posted by: Tuor Medraut at December 20, 2015 11:28 PM (LlvHE)

42 I think Abrams did a really good job of following the Monomyth AKA The Hero's Journey. And I think that's part of why a lot of people are saying its just copying the original, because the original Star Wars was also The Hero's Journey. A lot of other movies also follow it.

Here's Glove and Boots Explanation with quite a few examples.

https://youtu.be/yZxs_jGN7Pg

Posted by: buzzion at December 20, 2015 11:28 PM (zt+N6)

43 Never trust a man who likes showtunes. Period.

How about Grease? Are we allowed to like the soundtrack from Grease??

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2015 11:28 PM (ntObR)

44 If I didn't want to hire and employ a Christian because his eyes were too close together?

--I own the business.

Freedom of Association cuts two ways.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:28 PM (OQ9R7)

45 That Star Wars tee with the Enterprise on it, should become Official Moron Wear.

And if someone makes a nice cloisonné lapel pin of it, I'd buy it in an instant.

Great ONT, too. The Force is strong with this one.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 20, 2015 11:28 PM (McRlu)

46 >>>UPDATE: Police sources, female driver who drove onto strip sidewalk was drunk and had a 3 yr old child in car w her.

fuckin' women, amiright?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:25 PM (AkOaV)

*****

She self identified as a raging hormonal lunatic. Case closed.

*Next!*

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:28 PM (YLidQ)

47 My Lord

Stormtrooper

My Lord

Stormtrooper

My Lord

Stormtrooper

Posted by: eman at December 20, 2015 11:28 PM (MQEz6)

48 Sci-fi wasn't boffo before Star Wars

Star Wars isn't sci-fi.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 20, 2015 11:28 PM (zc3Db)

49 Evenin' horde.

Been binge watching Gotham. Kinda corny but what the hell. Decent enough.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 20, 2015 11:28 PM (hlMPp)

50 Enjoyed the original first two. The teddy bear luau of the third? Not so much.

Never went back. Never bothered with the prequels.

Even if I had completely adored SW up to this point, knowing that J.J. Abrams and his wife shelled out a metric shit-ton of cash to the Hillary Clinton campaign would have flushed away all enthusiasm in a nanosecond.

I'm basically done with patronizing businesses which make manifest their cold dislike for me. And Hollyweird is a business, make no mistake.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 20, 2015 11:29 PM (noWW6)

51 Star Trek > Star Wars. Even the JJ Abrams reboots, which as much as I wanted to hate them are pretty good.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 20, 2015 11:29 PM (GrXXa)

52 The Red Chinese are going to have fun using the all sunken bulkheads of the LCSes as new artificial reefs for their new artificial islands in the South China Seas, if the 9-Dash-Line war commences before Obama leaves office.

And before you tell me this won't happen because the LCSes will operate in concert with carrier groups, yeah, you'd generally be right, but remember who we have in charge now. The same dick-bag who didn't authorize attacking ISIS's oil revenue stream will think that all he needs to do to appear tough is to send a few LCSes (with wrong weapon kits) to counter Chinese frigates and subs.

Posted by: Thrawn at December 20, 2015 11:29 PM (wZ2hu)

53 "Uummm, this applies to everyone who owns cabs, not just Moose Limbs."
-Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:26 PM (YLidQ)

Comparing me to an idiot will gather you no favors, Good Sir.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:29 PM (OQ9R7)

54 Drunk woman with 3-year-old kid in the car; 33 injured and 3 dead according to latest reports.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2015 11:29 PM (DLIIY)

55 And I have to say I don't know why anyone has a big problem with a clittoral combat ship. Women are going to be joining the ranks of all the front lines so I think it only makes sense that we have some clittoral ships in service, too.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 20, 2015 11:27 PM (zc3Db)

****

We been needin' some stealth ships in the fleet.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:30 PM (YLidQ)

56 andy las vegas news 8 says a woman was arrested

One witness told 8 News NOW, she saw the female driver hit numerous people, including children. She said some men tried to stop the car but couldn't.

The woman is now in police custody

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:30 PM (+wjl1)

57
Well, Mr.Maetenloch... if that is your real name... you and those hacks at Red Letter just don't get my genius and you don't get what "Revenge OfThe Sith" was all about. It was brilliantly written and directed to inspire the viewer to ponder the most important question in Star Wars...

Where is Jar Jar and what's he doing?


Posted by: george lucas at December 20, 2015 11:30 PM (EWg9n)

58 Comparing me to an idiot will gather you no favors, Good Sir.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:29 PM (OQ9R7)

****

Just stating a fact, my man.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:31 PM (YLidQ)

59 Announcement:

Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains, you have an email about tomorrow from mindysosiare.

I'm looking forward to hearing from you.

Posted by: Emmie at December 20, 2015 11:31 PM (AuYnk)

60 nevermind you already read it

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:31 PM (+wjl1)

61 And I have to say I don't know why anyone has a big problem with a clittoral combat ship. Women are going to be joining the ranks of all the front lines so I think it only makes sense that we have some clittoral ships in service, too.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 20, 2015 11:27 PM (zc3Db)


Rumors of men not being able to find the ship and missing movement are totally false.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at December 20, 2015 11:31 PM (IKya9)

62 Howdy, y'all!!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2015 11:31 PM (EzgxV)

63 NFL Week 15 Elbows ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/678622688362000385

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/678622844205588481

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/678622985880788993

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/678623135009239040

Posted by: kbdabear at December 20, 2015 11:33 PM (GrXXa)

64 Just finished a good read. Top Fuel For Life. A good read for anyone dealing with a life ending situation. For a guy to write this about his wife was pretty moving for this old bastard. I really recommend it. The dude did good.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 20, 2015 11:33 PM (ucDmr)

65 Getting ignored again. I knew I shoulda brought donuts.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2015 11:33 PM (ntObR)

66 fuckin' women, amiright?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:25 PM (AkOaV)



*****



She self identified as a raging hormonal lunatic.




Pleonasm.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 20, 2015 11:33 PM (oKE6c)

67 cthulhu, hi , has OG appeared yet? It's hard because while a regular He didn't comment often.

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:34 PM (+wjl1)

68 What is so sucky about the LCS?

Too vulnerable?

Not enough hitting power?

Hard to park?

Posted by: eman at December 20, 2015 11:34 PM (MQEz6)

69 The stormtroopers at the White House are volunteers from the Old Line Garrison of the 501st Legion.

Nothing political, it was for a film screening and charity. That's what we do in the 501st, a LOT of charity work. I did six film related events this weekend for charity and community. The ache of wearing armor all weekend was worth it!

Posted by: TK-24601 at December 20, 2015 11:34 PM (q8pTe)

70 hormonal lunatic,, my ears are burning here.

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:35 PM (+wjl1)

71 I bought that Star Wars Trilogy on VCR back in the day. Never saw another one and prolly won't see this one until it hits the TV screen.
I watched a couple of episodes of Star Trek when I was in H.S. Never saw the next generation or any Star Trek movies at a theater.

Somehow I'm still alive.

Posted by: Hank at December 20, 2015 11:35 PM (aUcgj)

72 "Just stating a fact, my man."
-Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:31 PM (YLidQ)

And my following post should have...

Every preceding post that I have ever posted might have garnered you some "reasonably supposed conclusion" that I was not only "going somewhere", but I was going to reach a conclusion that was not defiant of your presuppositions.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:35 PM (OQ9R7)

73 One witness told 8 News NOW, she saw the female
driver hit numerous people, including children. She said some men tried
to stop the car but couldn't.



The woman is now in police custody

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:30 PM (+wjl1)


When parallel parking goes bad ...

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 20, 2015 11:35 PM (oKE6c)

74 I hate to vomit a couple of comments and then run, but I am soooo sleepy I can't keep my eyes open. Ever since Daylight Savings Time ended, I can hardly stay up for the ONT.

Goodnight, all!

Posted by: Emmie at December 20, 2015 11:36 PM (AuYnk)

75 hormonal lunatic,, my ears are burning here.
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:35 PM (+wjl1)

****

*Checks for a new thread*

Nope.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:36 PM (YLidQ)

76 Count me in the "meh" camp when it comes to the Star Wars stuff. No offense intended to Maetenloch, because I know it's a popular topic right now, and I'm in a minority position. I saw the original film, and enjoyed it. Honestly can't remember if I saw Empire Strikes Back. I know I've viewed none of the remainder of the franchise, and have no intention of seeing this one. If someone wants to drag me out to see this one, I'll go, but it's simply not anything I'm eager to do. Not while there is setting cement going unwatched.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2015 11:36 PM (7MWCL)

77 The Clitoral Combat Ship.

The Bloody Bitchmark?

(I'll go away now...)



Posted by: JEM at December 20, 2015 11:37 PM (o+SC1)

78 >>>What is so sucky about the LCS?


...
.
Posted by: eman at December 20, 2015 11:34 PM (MQEz6)
<<<


Muzzies have an overwhelming desire to mutilate them.


Posted by: Ralph at December 20, 2015 11:37 PM (D/1P4)

79 54 33 injured and 3 dead according to latest reports.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2015 11:29 PM (DLIIY)/i]



So ... not the worst job of parallel parking, but not the best, either.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 20, 2015 11:37 PM (oKE6c)

80 Before my battery dies completely -

Farmer, if you're around, I responded to you near the end of the last thread!

Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 20, 2015 11:37 PM (lDfK8)

81 Speaking of Star Wars, anytime that I hear James Earls intoning the Arby's commercial "We've got the meat", I immediately think of Darth Vader cutting off Luke's hand.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at December 20, 2015 11:38 PM (9mTYi)

82 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2015 11:36 PM (7MWCL)

ace's new banning policy precludes me from typing my real feelings, but -- re-watch A New Hope, then watch Empire.

If you're not sold, fine. Don't watch Return of the Jedi (arguably the weakest of the original trilogy). As for the prequels -- eh, you're not missing much.

But it'll change your life.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:38 PM (AkOaV)

83 "Getting ignored again. I knew I shoulda brought donuts."
-Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2015 11:33 PM (ntObR)

Nobody likes you, so we do that to spite you!

...wait. You have donuts?

OH! You didn't bring donuts.

Good Day, Sir!!!

*closes door*

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:38 PM (OQ9R7)

84 apparently the woman was driving a chevy volt.



ay yi yi.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:27 PM (AkOaV)


Shocking!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2015 11:39 PM (7MWCL)

85 Every preceding post that I have ever posted might have garnered you some "reasonably supposed conclusion" that I was not only "going somewhere", but I was going to reach a conclusion that was not defiant of your presuppositions.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:35 PM (OQ9R7)

****

I am in far too fine a mood to want to do the word salad thing with you tonight.

Can we just *fist bump* and move on?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:39 PM (YLidQ)

86 Slap, tell me something I don't know. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2015 11:39 PM (ntObR)

87
Posted by: buzzion



"Dreadful apparition, why do you trouble me?"

"It is required of every man," the Ghost returned, "that the spirit within him should walk abroad among his fellowmen, and travel far and wide; and if that spirit goes not forth in life, it is condemned to do so after death. It is doomed to wander through the world -- oh, woe is me! -- and witness what it cannot share, but might have shared on earth, and turned to happiness!"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 20, 2015 11:39 PM (kdS6q)

88 LOL, MWNP. -That works.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:40 PM (OQ9R7)

89 I used the lesson of the quick and easy path offered by the Dark Side to teach my kids to take the time to use good judgement.

It seems to have helped a bit.

I also told them to use the Fork when eating spaghetti.


Posted by: eman at December 20, 2015 11:40 PM (MQEz6)

90 "But it'll change your life."

What? I'll get a new girlfriend?
Get a dog? A stray cat will move in?
I'll win the lotto?

A job will find me, one I can't turn down?

I'll sell a book? Make a movie?
My magic eight ball will start working again?

Posted by: Tuor Medraut at December 20, 2015 11:41 PM (LlvHE)

91 And, Hah!
Mis Hum sitting on top of the wall of shame, and Slap is on there, too!
If Cth were up there, i could call it a hat trick.

Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 20, 2015 11:41 PM (lDfK8)

92 well, I'm out. Have to go to that place where they imprison me for 9 hours a day tomorrow. Work, or whatever they call it.

Night all

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:41 PM (AkOaV)

93 I'm with Steyn. Saw the first Star Wars as a teen, liked it okay. But interest faded fast. Never saw another. Also, can't stand stories that never end. You've got two hours to tell your story and be done with it.
Posted by: rrpjr at December 20, 2015 11:19 PM

Me too, well actually have seen the first three, but they never held much attraction for me other than the first one was innovative at the time.

I used to like sci-fi a bit, just grew out of it. I think maybe it was replaced by politics, tho I always liked that too.

To each his own.

Posted by: Farmer at December 20, 2015 11:44 PM (o/90i)

94
82 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2015 11:36 PM (7MWCL)

ace's new banning policy precludes me from typing my real feelings, but -- re-watch A New Hope, then watch Empire.

If you're not sold, fine. Don't watch Return of the Jedi (arguably the weakest of the original trilogy). As for the prequels -- eh, you're not missing much.

But it'll change your life.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:38 PM (AkOaV)



Eh. Look I'm a major Star Wars nerd. I would probably do very well in trivia contests about it, so I obviously love it and think its great. But its not for everyone. If you watch and you love it great. If you watch and are meh and don't see what the big deal is all about that's fine too.

You're wrong, but that's ok.

Posted by: buzzion at December 20, 2015 11:45 PM (zt+N6)

95 It was a quality salad, however and you owe for one adult and....

Okay. One adult.

That'll be seventy-three cents.

*wipes charge*

-You're good, Man.

Side Note:

I once had a girlfriend that bet me a half-penny on something because she knew I had to cut a penny in half.

It only takes thirty seconds, but she knew it would piss me off.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:45 PM (OQ9R7)

96 alright is the thread already dead after Maet went to the trouble of writing a short book tomight?

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:45 PM (+wjl1)

97 G'Night, Harry.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:45 PM (OQ9R7)

98 ace's new banning policy precludes me from typing my real feelings, but -- re-watch A New Hope, then watch Empire.



If you're not sold, fine. Don't watch Return of the Jedi (arguably
the weakest of the original trilogy). As for the prequels -- eh, you're
not missing much.



But it'll change your life.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 20, 2015 11:38 PM (AkOaV)


How, pray tell, can I re-watch a movie I haven't watched before? Man, I don't do pop culture, movies and TV and most music included. The only way watching a Hollyweird movie can change my life is to make my wallet thinner.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2015 11:46 PM (7MWCL)

99 43:43 Never trust a man who likes showtunes. Period.

How about Grease? Are we allowed to like the soundtrack from Grease??



How about Heavy Metal? Thats a musical, right?

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at December 20, 2015 11:46 PM (syGA0)

100 I have never been listed on the AoS Hall of Shame.

Should I be ashamed?

0_o


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 20, 2015 11:46 PM (McRlu)

101 nite Harry

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:46 PM (+wjl1)

102 Thin crowd, even for a saturday night.

So I went to watch the videos. Made it through about ninety seconds.

Sick puppies.

Posted by: Tuor Medraut at December 20, 2015 11:46 PM (LlvHE)

103 54 Drunk woman with 3-year-old kid in the car; 33 injured and 3 dead according to latest reports.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2015 11:29 PM (DLIIY)


I hope the child has a good father or some decent relatives to raise him/her.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2015 11:47 PM (kGrwF)

104 alright is the thread already dead after Maet went to the trouble of writing a short book tonight?
-----
SHHH!!!

Posted by: the librarian at December 20, 2015 11:47 PM (DLIIY)

105 I'll bet that this Maetenloch guy didn't even buy the Kit Fisto action figure. What the fuck does he know about Star Wars?

Posted by: george lucas at December 20, 2015 11:48 PM (EWg9n)

106 Jim, i can remember when i brought it to Maets attention if i could not be mentioned on the wall of shame AGAIN -because embarrassing he didn't know what i was talking about.

but most people do call it the wall of shame now.

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:48 PM (+wjl1)

107 Slowww. Maybe Maet should have posted a gun or that gossip about Diva Clinton not sharing her bathroom.


Posted by: Ralph at December 20, 2015 11:49 PM (D/1P4)

108 that i would not*

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:49 PM (+wjl1)

109 "It is required of every man," the Ghost returned, "that the spirit within him should walk abroad among his fellowmen, and travel far and wide; and if that spirit goes not forth in life, it is condemned to do so after death. It is doomed to wander through the world -- oh, woe is me! -- and witness what it cannot share, but might have shared on earth, and turned to happiness!"
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
-------------

What the dickens was that about?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at December 20, 2015 11:49 PM (9mTYi)

110 I enjoy Star Wars, but was never crazy about it. I think all three original films are pretty good.

While I like A New Hope, I never liked the *way* I had to see it. Basically SW was all over the place, doing boffo box office, but our family was sitting it out just like we always did every blockbuster. Then one night my dad came home and just *announced,* "we're all going to see Star Wars!!" Well, I've always been the type who has to be *in the mood* to see a movie, but at the same time my dad was very authoritarian-- if I had protested I wanted to stay home, he would have thrown a fit and as he liked to say, "make your life a living hell." So I kept my mouth shut and went.

The only part of it I remember from that very first viewing? The trash compactor scene.

I honestly don't remember the first time I saw Empire; I think it was on network TV.

My all-time best SW experience was being invited by friends in 1987 to see it as part of a THX demonstration, at Mann's Chinese in Hollywood. Big screen, incredible sound, packed theater, good seats, and I got to hang out for a few hours with a woman whom at the time I had major hots for. (That ended in tears a few years later, unfortunately.) But it was a great time.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2015 11:49 PM (ntObR)

111 hmmm.
so if a woman soldier is masturbating on duty....
do you turn her in to command?


it is a new Army we've got here

Valerie Jarrett sure knows about how to win wars and all

Posted by: Jake at December 20, 2015 11:50 PM (QelBn)

112 I'm going to go grill a steak. Done drilling this well, so a minor celebration is in order.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2015 11:50 PM (7MWCL)

113 In the never ending battle between Star Trek and Star Wars there's one thing Trekkies can never escape from, and that's the fact that Star Trek owes its entire post tv series existence to Star Wars. Sure, there were still fans, but it was a dead franchise until the huge success of Star Wars brought it back, Star Wars is to Star Trek as Run-DMC is to Aerosmith.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at December 20, 2015 11:50 PM (iwLCN)

114 i think everyone is actually reading the content tonight. naysayers that they might be.

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:50 PM (+wjl1)

115 What the dickens was that about?
Ignore it. LDC is just trying to rattle your chains.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2015 11:51 PM (DLIIY)

116 16 I don't understand why, over in the sidebar, CBD says it's a "victory" that a Muslim cabbie was fined for refusing to let a female passenger sit in the front seat with him. I don't like the way Islam treats women, but a cabbie should have the right to control who sits in front, for whatever reason he wants, without the government butting in. How is this case any different from Christian bakeries being fined for refusing to bake gay wedding cakes? It's not a "victory," small or otherwise. Businesses should have the right to refuse service to anybody for whatever reason they choose. It's called freedom of association.

Posted by: gp at December 20, 2015 11:17 PM (mk9aG)



I had the same concerns, but reasoned it through thuswise -- If you're an official cab, with a cab medallion, government protection, you paint your cab as "available to all riders", go through toll areas, have regulated meter rates, etc......well, suck it up -- you have to act like a public agency. If you're an uber driver and uber can filter out unsuitable fares (for you) and just never tell the possible fare that you're nearby even if you're across the street -- then, yes, you could keep women out of the front seat even if you mistakenly report to a call.



If you agree to provide rides the government way, you do it by government rules. Render unto Caesar....



And, BTW, I hope that uber completely obliterates government monopoly cab companies in the near future.



The same would apply if "Nellie's wedding cakes" rented space in a government facility next to the Department of Wedding Licenses and the lease said, "provide cakes to support the nuptials granted by the Department." I'd support eviction if the Department started allowing people to marry plush toys and Nellie's refused to bake a cake for it. That said, I think that recent cases of fining general bakeries or running them out of business is ridonkulous regulatory overreach.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2015 11:51 PM (EzgxV)

117 AOP @ 76
Not alone you are. The first one I saw. Great shakes the movies are not.

Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 20, 2015 11:51 PM (lDfK8)

118 I'm back home after the stepdaughter wedding trip. Things went well.
Many sincere thanks for the prayers offered on my behalf. I definitely saw answers.
You people are the best!
Posted by: Emmie at December 20, 2015 11:25 PM

Glad to hear Emmie.

Posted by: Farmer at December 20, 2015 11:52 PM (o/90i)

119 I'm going to go grill a steak. Done drilling this well, so a minor celebration is in order.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2015 11:50 PM (7MWCL)

glances at Alberta oil peons comment , a lone tear rolls down cheek.

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:52 PM (+wjl1)

120 Saw the original Star Wars when it came out.

Posted by: Ralph at December 20, 2015 11:52 PM (D/1P4)

121 Willow, I remember you doing that, way back when.

Wasn't that during Pixy 1.7?

Been years, I know, but it seems like only Two Weeks ago.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 20, 2015 11:53 PM (McRlu)

122 mazel tov on the finishing of the drilling.

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:53 PM (+wjl1)

123 12 Posts of Christmas, 2015 (Day

Naughty or Nice? Any bets that Santa won't be on his own "Nice" list...

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=10616

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 20, 2015 11:54 PM (Z8xbi)

124 #112

congrats, be sure to start a new one soon, it is not like the entire US economy needs cheap reliable energy....

Posted by: Jake at December 20, 2015 11:54 PM (QelBn)

125 Willow, I remember you doing that, way back when.

Wasn't that during Pixy 1.7?

Been years, I know, but it seems like only Two Weeks ago.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 20, 2015 11:53 PM (McRlu)

yeah i think back in aol dial up days.

we've been promoted

i
think

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:54 PM (+wjl1)

126 112 I'm going to go grill a steak. Done drilling this well, so a minor celebration is in order.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


If you wait around for a minute, chemjeff should be here to give you some pointers...

Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 20, 2015 11:54 PM (lDfK8)

127 What the dickens was that about?
Ignore it. LDC is just trying to rattle your chains.
Posted by: andycanuck
--------------

Not a ghost of a chance.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at December 20, 2015 11:55 PM (9mTYi)

128 Forgot to mention: the 1987 Mann's Chinese SW experience involved seeing Return of the Jedi, in a remastered THX print. *Not* A New Hope.

Like I said, pretty good experience.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 20, 2015 11:55 PM (ntObR)

129 ..."The only way watching a Hollyweird movie can change my life is to make my wallet thinner."
-Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 20, 2015 11:46 PM (7MWCL)

That's pompous for "I'm Kinda Perfect."

You don't usually see that out of Science Loving Oil Jockeys.

...Perhaps my view of Science Loving Oil Jockeys has been tainted by Hollywood.

I just don't know who you are anymore.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:55 PM (OQ9R7)

130 Count me in the "meh" camp when it comes to the Star Wars stuff.

I'll probably go see it because I like going to the movie theater, and so many of the movies are stupid slop. I sit there and think about how I spent $10 on the movie ticket and an ungodly amount of money on popcorn and pop, on a movie that is just baaad.
So I'll go to Star Wars, knowing that it's better than almost all the rest of the junk that is inflicted on the public.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2015 11:55 PM (kGrwF)

131 Here is the "News of the Week" compilation of the news.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=10743

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 20, 2015 11:55 PM (Z8xbi)

132
the fact that Star Trek owes its entire post tv series existence to Star Wars. Sure, there were still fans, but it was a dead franchise until the huge success of Star Wars brought it back, Star Wars is to Star Trek as Run-DMC is to Aerosmith.
Posted by: All Teh Meh



Naw. Star Trek: Phase II got as far as building sets:

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Phase_II

The success of SW, among other factors, conviced Paramount to pull the plug and shift resources over to STTMP.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 20, 2015 11:55 PM (kdS6q)

133 Maybe folks are stunned by the sexy SW pic.

Or busy.

Posted by: eman at December 20, 2015 11:56 PM (MQEz6)

134 In the never ending battle between Star Trek and Star Wars there's one thing Trekkies can never escape from, and that's the fact that Star Trek owes its entire post tv series existence to Star Wars.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at December 20, 2015 11:50 PM (iwLCN)


That's sillier than Star Wars and Star Trek put together, which is pretty damn silly. Star Trek owes nothing to the farce that is Star Wars. The farce that is Star Trek has a totally independent life in idiot fiction.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 20, 2015 11:56 PM (zc3Db)

135 anyone catch where Ms. Puerto Rico got suspended for an Anti moslem rant at Michael Moore?


crazy world we have

Posted by: Jake at December 20, 2015 11:56 PM (QelBn)

136 The government in the Netherlands has clarified that it is legal for
driving instructors to offer lessons in return for sex, as long as the
students are over the age of 18.

However, it is illegal to offer sex in return for lessons.


Ah. So sex is not commutative. Good to know.

Come for the elbows, stay for the math.

Posted by: Anachronda at December 20, 2015 11:57 PM (o78gS)

137 Jim, i can remember when i brought it to Maets attention if i could not be mentioned on the wall of shame AGAIN -because embarrassing he didn't know what i was talking about.

but most people do call it the wall of shame now.
Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:48 PM (+wjl1)

****

I work actively to keep off of it, but I am off for the next two weeks, so a little worried.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:57 PM (YLidQ)

138
127 What the dickens was that about?
Ignore it. LDC is just trying to rattle your chains.
Posted by: andycanuck
--------------

Not a ghost of a chance.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at December 20, 2015 11:55 PM (9mTYi)

That's the spirit!

Posted by: eman at December 20, 2015 11:57 PM (MQEz6)

139 #126,

ouch


be carefulllllllll

Posted by: Jake at December 20, 2015 11:57 PM (QelBn)

140 "What the dickens was that about?"
-Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc. etc. at December 20, 2015 11:49 PM (9mTYi)

Existential crisis. Nothing that a woman couldn't alleviate.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 20, 2015 11:58 PM (OQ9R7)

141 Howdy, y'all!!!!!
Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2015 11:31 PM

Is it safe yet to send you an email? Mine's still the same if you want to shoot me one if yours has changed.
T

Posted by: Farmer at December 20, 2015 11:58 PM (o/90i)

142 damn it, back in a bit going to scrounge around the pantry , maybe i can hook up with some crackers and cheese.

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:58 PM (+wjl1)

143 I'm still waiting for the complete collection Star Wars commemorative with all the back story, front story, side story and commentary from all the directors, and all the major stars with a behind the scenes explanation of how they did all the tricks, on 42 blue ray disks in a limited edition boxed set with all the action figures for only $859.26 (USD). That includes all the movies, in all the variations, with all the deleted scenes, everything, all of it. I'll be the one camped out at the distribution center.

Posted by: Tuor Medraut at December 20, 2015 11:58 PM (LlvHE)

144 Then there's the fact that I hate so many of the actors. George Clooney is now in a tv commercial for some coffee maker. I get pissed off every time that commercial runs. I hope his muzzie wife assaults him then takes all his money in a divorce. Maybe that would wipe the smirk off his botoxed face.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2015 11:58 PM (kGrwF)

145 Kirk banged green chicks and Luke kissed his sister.

Tie?

Posted by: eman at December 20, 2015 11:59 PM (MQEz6)

146 And if Clooney's so good looking, why does he need so much fake tan? What's he covering up?

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2015 11:59 PM (kGrwF)

147 If I need a movie to change my life, I really do need to take a good, hard look at the choices I have made in said life.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:59 PM (YLidQ)

148 67 cthulhu, hi , has OG appeared yet? It's hard because while a regular He didn't comment often.

Posted by: willow at December 20, 2015 11:34 PM (+wjl1)



MollyK mentioned in the food thread that she had his email. Rather than do some complicated shuffle to get it, I asked her to ping him to see if he's ok because I've been fretting. I asked this sort of late, so if she sees this now on the ONT it's the same request.



Carol and (oh, noez -- a human name!!!!) did an exhaustive search on December posts with no joy. I'd been peeking, so this was not unexpected -- it was, in fact, the reason I brought this to the Horde. And I sincerely thank Carol and her friend for doing this.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 12:00 AM (EzgxV)

149 #144

I'n not sure she is a muzzie
she's not a sunni or shia

Posted by: Jake at December 21, 2015 12:00 AM (QelBn)

150 I work actively to keep off of it, but I am off for the next two weeks, so a little worried.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:57 PM (YLidQ)

i hope you have a nice vacation, are you going to roll into a ball and sleep or have plans of chaos?

i am leavivng on the 27 with sister for a mth, we are hitting NY and than huntington beach for hopefully sleep, and more sleep.

Posted by: willow at December 21, 2015 12:01 AM (+wjl1)

151 Farmer,
I gave you mine (chi) at end of last thread .
I'll send you cthulhu's new one if you need it.

Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 12:01 AM (lDfK8)

152 Just came back from Star Wars. Major disappointment. Not the worst film ever by any means, but not a good film either. Has to be the most overhyped movie ever. Did all those people writing all the rave reviews see the same film that I just watched?

Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:01 AM (F78YM)

153 "And if Clooney's so good looking, why does he need so much fake tan? What's he covering up?"
-Posted by: nerdygirl at December 20, 2015 11:59 PM (kGrwF)

Acne, psoriasis, shingles...

Or he needs a "base" before he goes to an equatorial country on vacation.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 12:02 AM (OQ9R7)

154 I don't know if anyone saw it, but Anthony Cumia's Red Eye and Gutfeld gigs are likely over. He was just arrested for domestic violence against his 26 year old current girlfriend. He broke her hand amongst other injuries, and she posted a cell phone video of him acting like an idiot.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 21, 2015 12:02 AM (dvuhZ)

155 k, brb, before i pass out from starvation.

Posted by: willow at December 21, 2015 12:02 AM (+wjl1)

156 Ving Rhames voices 'We have the meats!' for Arby's.

Posted by: Sixkiller at December 21, 2015 12:02 AM (szEUw)

157 Star Trek Phase II got to building sets, doing screen tests, and even had thirteen scripts in various stages of completion.

Then Star Wars showed up. Paramount panicked and said 'We gotta do something to save our jobs!' Someone at Paramount then remembered they had the rights to Star Trek.

So Gene Roddenberry was green-lighted to make a movie. Alan Dean Foster's script "In They Image" which was to be the pilot script for Phase II was given the movie treatment. Lt. Ilia survived the transition, but the Vulcan science officer Xon was lost. And Robert Wise was roped in. The movie was too long and became a dog of the franchise, in fact almost sank the franchise.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:02 AM (nGyiN)

158 Existential crisis. Nothing that a woman couldn't alleviate.
Are you saying he just needs a good, hard Scrooge?

Posted by: andycanuck at December 21, 2015 12:03 AM (DLIIY)

159 I loved Star Wars as a kid, didn't care too much for the prequels, but all the hype is just driving me nuts. I can't stand it. I'm getting sick of hype of all sorts. I may watch the movie, perhaps a couple years in the future when the hype is gone.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 21, 2015 12:03 AM (dvuhZ)

160
152 Just came back from Star Wars. Major disappointment. Not the worst film ever by any means, but not a good film either. Has to be the most overhyped movie ever. Did all those people writing all the rave reviews see the same film that I just watched?
Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:01 AM (F78YM)

Have not seen it yet and all I hope for is it is better than the prequels.

Not much to ask.

Posted by: eman at December 21, 2015 12:04 AM (MQEz6)

161
I'm still waiting for the complete collection Star Wars commemorative
with all the back story, front story, side story and commentary from all
the directors, and all the major stars with a behind the scenes
explanation of how they did all the tricks, on 42 blue ray disks in a
limited edition boxed set with all the action figures for only $859.26
(USD). That includes all the movies, in all the variations, with all the
deleted scenes, everything, all of it. I'll be the one camped out at
the distribution center.




Posted by: Tuor Medraut at December 20, 2015 11:58 PM



You want the original trilogy theatrical releases


You'll settle for my special editions.


You'll get the prequels, nerd.

Posted by: george lucas at December 21, 2015 12:04 AM (EWg9n)

162 27 Are you a bastard if you don't have a valid fodder?
Posted by: andycanuck at December 20, 2015 11:22 PM (DLIIY)

Too many kids being raised by single mudders today. Children need a mudder and a fodder.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:04 AM (kpqmD)

163 That Triumph clip was hilarious - even the haters should watch it.

Posted by: Janie's got a gun at December 21, 2015 12:04 AM (5LOHI)

164
Have not seen it yet and all I hope for is it is better than the prequels.

Not much to ask.
Posted by: eman at December 21, 2015 12:04 AM (MQEz6)

Better than the prequels is a damn low bar, but I keep hearing good things from people who have seen it.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:05 AM (kpqmD)

165 i hope you have a nice vacation, are you going to roll into a ball and sleep or have plans of chaos?

i am leavivng on the 27 with sister for a mth, we are hitting NY and than huntington beach for hopefully sleep, and more sleep.
Posted by: willow at December 21, 2015 12:01 AM (+wjl1)

****

Going to sleep in for to days, and then do the Christmas thing, followed by getting two of the houses ready to sell.

Regular work would would be less work, but the payoff should be cool.

Your plans sound very cool, enjoy!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:05 AM (YLidQ)

166 Best. ONT. Ever.

Posted by: SKUNKY CHOOM at December 21, 2015 12:05 AM (CbGSW)

167 The hype for Star Wars: TFA reminds me of the hype for Ghostbusters back in 1984. OMG, it seemed like the campaign for that movie would NEVER end.

The only part of it I found enjoyable was the attractive woman in PJs who was featured in the Ray Parker Jr. "Who You Gonna Call?" video on MTV.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 21, 2015 12:05 AM (ntObR)

168 "If I need a movie to change my life, I really do need to take a good, hard look at the choices I have made in said life."
-Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 20, 2015 11:59 PM (YLidQ)

Nobody mentioned "need", but why read books?

Is ignorance "bliss"?

Does shunning an entire form of media make you smarter, better, stronger?

I need an answer, Mr. Austin!

Stop listening to music, you Godly Einstein!

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 12:05 AM (OQ9R7)

169 Thank you, Insomniac, for the mercy pun ignored by everyone else.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 21, 2015 12:06 AM (DLIIY)

170 So Gene Roddenberry was green-lighted to make a movie. Alan Dean Foster's script "In They Image" which was to be the pilot script for Phase II was given the movie treatment. Lt. Ilia survived the transition, but the Vulcan science officer Xon was lost. And Robert Wise was roped in. The movie was too long and became a dog of the franchise, in fact almost sank the franchise.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:02 AM (nGyiN)

I have heard there is a director's cut that is much better than the release version.

Posted by: eman at December 21, 2015 12:06 AM (MQEz6)

171 When the original, unrevised versions of A New Hope, Empire, and Jedi come out on bluray, I'll definitely pick 'em up, even if I have to get the prequels with them. My hunch is Disney will do so sometime between now and 2020.

But, I won't waste my money on any of the current blu-ray SW editions.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 21, 2015 12:07 AM (ntObR)

172 I don't think The Force Awakens is better than the prequels, hate to say it. No way it beats The Phantom Menace.

Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:08 AM (F78YM)

173 Making movies, making TV shows, doing entertainment is a means of making a living for most of these people. A few of the people make a LOT of money, but most of these people just make a living.

Remembering when "Star Wars: A New Hope" came out, sure it was supposed to be ...fun. What it ended up being was a means of affirming somewhat immature adults and adolescents in their escape from the boring reality of the real world.

Entertainment as art should be about entertainment, and providing a minimal amount of escape, and sometimes actually has an elevating moral or idea to convey. There is no elevating moral to "Star Wars", except the Good Guys apparently win, and the Bad Guys apparently lose. It was a change from the era of Anti-hero entertainment, but it was and never will be High Art or culture.

What it is ultimately now is a huge marketing enterprise, separating adults and children from their money to buy into the movie and all the merchandising geegaws they are hawking with it. Capitalism. There's one born every minute, as the man said.

The overwhelming lesson of "Star Wars" is great marketing selling something that is moderately childish (which is okay), but pretending it is high art or great storytelling, in the course of making hundreds of millions (Billions!) of dollars.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at December 21, 2015 12:08 AM (+1T7c)

174 eman, sometimes the homages to the original trilogy are a bit too obvious. But a very good popcorn movie. Rey is not a princess but she has the same attitude as Leia. Finn is a lost Stormtrooper instead of a lost farmboy embarking upon a grand adventure.

But best of all, not a single gosh darn mention of those blasted worthless Mitichlorians. One would think Palpatine would have thought of having the Caminos develop a vaccine against catching Mitichlorians instead of a clone army. But hey - George Lucas.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:09 AM (nGyiN)

175 Eh. Look I'm a major Star Wars nerd. I would probably do very well in trivia contests about it, so I obviously love it and think its great. But its not for everyone. If you watch and you love it great. If you watch and are meh and don't see what the big deal is all about that's fine too.
You're wrong, but that's ok.
Posted by: buzzion at December 20, 2015 11:45 PM (zt+N6)


As a kid I was a major Star Wars nerd but frankly RoTJ was a tad disappointing and I never got into the whole extended universe thing. Lucas' prequels basically killed off whatever fandom I had but I still do have a fondness for the series and think there are still some good stories left to tell from the Star Wars universe.

So if you love Star Wars that's great but if you don't that's okay too.

But I will be honest - if you didn't like the original Star Wars or at least feel some kind of emotional stirring from it, then I think you're probably missing certain neural circuitry in your brain. This doesn't mean that you're a bad person but it does mean that I will discount your views on what does and does not constitute good entertainment.

Posted by: Maetenloch at December 21, 2015 12:09 AM (wqVD1)

176 "Mister Austin" refers to "The Six-Million Dollar Man", Steve Austin, as played by Lee Majors.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 12:09 AM (OQ9R7)

177 Nobody mentioned "need", but why read books?

Is ignorance "bliss"?

Does shunning an entire form of media make you smarter, better, stronger?

I need an answer, Mr. Austin!

Stop listening to music, you Godly Einstein!
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 12:05 AM (OQ9R7)

****

This was a response to the Harry Ballz guy sating that this movie will "change your life".

No. No movie will ever do that for me.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:09 AM (YLidQ)

178 Too late for me. 'Night, all.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 21, 2015 12:10 AM (DLIIY)

179

Better than the prequels is a damn low bar, but I keep hearing good things from people who have seen it.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:05 AM (kpqmD)

It sure is. Asking for more is pushing it.

Posted by: eman at December 21, 2015 12:10 AM (MQEz6)

180 141 Howdy, y'all!!!!!
Posted by: cthulhu at December 20, 2015 11:31 PM

Is it safe yet to send you an email? Mine's still the same if you want to shoot me one if yours has changed.
T

Posted by: Farmer at December 20, 2015 11:58 PM (o/90i)



Define "safe".



I've actually got safe-ish ones and not-so-safe-ish ones. Is yours nine letters before @, with three of the letters being an ampersand? If so, give me a hint as to which major service you're on (e.g. "h" if you're on hotmail) and I'll take a stab from a relatively safe one.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 12:13 AM (EzgxV)

181 I'n not sure she is a muzzie
she's not a sunni or shia
Posted by: Jake at December 21, 2015 12:00 AM (QelBn)


Rats. I was hoping she'd make him pick between converting to Islam or being beheaded.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2015 12:13 AM (kGrwF)

182 179

Better than the prequels is a damn low bar, but I keep hearing good things from people who have seen it.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:05 AM (kpqmD)

It sure is. Asking for more is pushing it.

Posted by: eman at December 21, 2015 12:10 AM (MQEz6)

The fear now, as mentioned in that Red Letter Media episode, is that the SW people will "Star Trek: Into Darkness" it and try again to make a repeat of another SW film, instead of having some fresh ideas.

Posted by: Thrawn at December 21, 2015 12:14 AM (wZ2hu)

183
172 I don't think The Force Awakens is better than the prequels, hate to say it. No way it beats The Phantom Menace.
Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:08 AM (F78YM)

If it isn't better than the prequels then why haven't the intertubes exloded with nerd rage?

You...you liked... The Phantom Menace?

Posted by: eman at December 21, 2015 12:14 AM (MQEz6)

184 Yo, Blanco. Sup?

Sorry, got called away for a bit.

Short week, then four days of Valu-Rite.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 21, 2015 12:14 AM (YJmuy)

185 Gingy and I were introduced at our wedding to The Imperial March.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 21, 2015 12:15 AM (N8hFs)

186 qdpsteve, scour the Internets. But on laser-disc there are restored versions of the original trilogy but without any of the extensions.

Here are the discs on eBay, all three movies
http://preview.tinyurl.com/gw54oqq

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:15 AM (nGyiN)

187 I had to do a double take on that ruling in the Netherlands, but I think I get the logic. Prostitution is offering sex in return for something of value. However, offering some good or service, and then accepting sex as payment is not prostitution. The logic is that is the original good or service being sold, not the sex.

Still sophistry, but I get it.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 21, 2015 12:15 AM (dvuhZ)

188
The movie was too long and became a dog of the franchise, in fact almost sank the franchise.
Posted by: Anna Puma



One of those things everybody knows, that aint quite so. STTMP made money, it just wasn't the golden goose Star Wars was:

www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=startrek.htm

The editing of the movie has pretty half-assed. Personally, I prefer the TV edit of the movie that added back in a number of cut screens that should had been left in, Scottie's nephew and such, instead of that hour of looking at V'ger just sitting there.

And a true fannish must go pitty pat at the initial travel pod fly-around the gorgeous new Enterprise model.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 12:15 AM (kdS6q)

189 Lust is an emotion, right? I wanted to bang that cola nut in the slave bikini.

Posted by: otho at December 21, 2015 12:15 AM (EWg9n)

190 eman -- no, didn't like The Phantom Menace very much. Liked The Force Awakens even less.

Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:16 AM (F78YM)

191 Steyn is missing the bigger picture. Star Wars was an ENORMOUS leap forward for sci-fi due to special effects. The previous stuff looked cheap and dodgy because it was. Star Wars looked amazing. Only in the last ten years or so has Star Wars looked a bit dated. It was a pivotal quantum leap in sci-fi that lead to even better stuff in the future.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 21, 2015 12:16 AM (4ErVI)

192 Anna, thanks!!

I've said before and will say again, I'll get a good-condition LD player and the LDs if that's what it takes to own the actual originals again.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 21, 2015 12:16 AM (ntObR)

193 169 Thank you, Insomniac, for the mercy pun ignored by everyone else.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 21, 2015 12:06 AM (DLIIY)

Happy to be of service.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:17 AM (kpqmD)

194 159 I loved Star Wars as a kid, didn't care too much for the prequels, but all the hype is just driving me nuts. I can't stand it. I'm getting sick of hype of all sorts. I may watch the movie, perhaps a couple years in the future when the hype is gone.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 21, 2015 12:03 AM (dvuhZ)


Then stay out of the stores. I went shopping yesterday for presents for my nephews. The stores are wall to wall Star Wars gear. It does get annoying. And the stuff is terribly overpriced.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2015 12:17 AM (kGrwF)

195
190 eman -- no, didn't like The Phantom Menace very much. Liked The Force Awakens even less.
Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:16 AM (F78YM)

I see.

Posted by: eman at December 21, 2015 12:18 AM (MQEz6)

196 Yeah Enterprise taking ten minutes, but feeling like an hour, to cruise over V'GER killed all the momentum in the movie.

We are talking Hollyweird, if a movie does not perform to expectations then it is a dog. In the Heart of the Sea is a most recent example. But when it hits Red Box and Netflix it will probably do well.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:19 AM (nGyiN)

197 I liked TFA, but think it would have worked better as two fleshed out movies.

You can have the hero's journey without making everything quite so alike. That's a key component of good writing: the ability to take a basic concept and present it in new flesh.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 21, 2015 12:19 AM (fC9RO)

198 Starwars = hooves up.


Posted by: Hildabeast at December 21, 2015 12:20 AM (oOYbM)

199 Have screw bit torrent. I have the original set of videotapes. And multiple working vcrs. I've never seen Georgie porgie's revisionist butchery!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 21, 2015 12:20 AM (Vm8WO)

200 RotJ needs the Ewoks squeezed out.

Posted by: eman at December 21, 2015 12:21 AM (MQEz6)

201 I've never expected a movie to change my life, nor have I ever seen a movie that changed my life. However, when I drop my eight bucks to see a movie, I expect it to provide around 100 to 120 minutes or so of escape from teh suckfest that is life.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:21 AM (kpqmD)

202 "Movies that change your life".....really?

I saw "2001: A Space Odyssey" when I was 13 years old, and thought it was really great, etc., at a time when it was near the apex of the Moon Race, Project Apollo.

Watched the film on TV years later (as an adult) and realized what a lot of pretentious tripe it really was.
Not to be cynical and injure the hopefulness of youth, because God knows, kids need to believe in SOMETHING, and be inspired by something, in this age of deadened sensitivities and overloaded inputs from everything.

I just wish it wasn't something so trivial and childish as "Star Wars", and listening to that old poop Harrison Ford lecture us about Global Warming while he flies off to Australia to pimp for his last few million dollars he's making off this movie.

I mean, if somebody paid ME millions of dollars to be part of this global fantasy, it would sure change MY life.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at December 21, 2015 12:21 AM (+1T7c)

203 qdpsteve, you are welcome. Only have the original movie on laser disc and the THX sticker is starting to peel off the shrinkwrap. It is two discs and has a Leonard Maltin interview with George Lucas after the movie ends.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:22 AM (nGyiN)

204
If it isn't better than the prequels then why haven't the intertubes exloded with nerd rage?
Posted by: eman



You're not looking in the right place.

The mainstream media is on board, because gurl Jedi and such. SW true believers will buy anything, but as for the younglings for whom this is their first Star Wars and casuals? Reaction seems mixed on the open boards.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 12:22 AM (kdS6q)

205 194: I already stay out of the stores as much as possible. Starting with Black Friday and until a week or two after New Year's, I avoid the stores. Well, grocery stores and auto parts, and that, but "the stores" I avoid like the plague.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 21, 2015 12:22 AM (dvuhZ)

206 "No. No movie will ever do that for me."
-Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:09 AM (YLidQ)

You're being a flathead! No emotion, man. Listen... I "get" that. I never want to show stupid emotions.

But... anger is an emotion and it is based on others.

Anger comes from love, fear and drive. A manly drive to protect life, liberty, property and above-all, Loved Ones.

If you tell me that NO movie could ever elicit those sorts of emotions, then you're:

-Not watching anything.

-Overexposed.

-Ignorant of what others feel.

-or-

-Physiologically incapable of sympathy or empathy.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 12:23 AM (OQ9R7)

207

What did Steve Harvey do?????!!!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 21, 2015 12:23 AM (iQIUe)

208 172 I don't think The Force Awakens is better than the prequels, hate to say it. No way it beats The Phantom Menace.

Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:08 AM (F78YM)



Phantom Menace, main plot arc involves a trade embargo. The Force Awakens, no trade embargo.


Winner: The Force Awakens.

Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2015 12:24 AM (zt+N6)

209 Certainly got a bunch of Herberts on this thread.

"It's a movie! Get a life!" - things attributed to William Shatner.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:24 AM (nGyiN)

210 Colorado Alex -- agree there, TFA suffocates in nostalgia if you ask me. And the new blood sure didn't get me invested in them. Fey's your Josh Weldon too-perfect heroine, Finn's a poor shadow of Han Solo, Ren's can't even match Anakin much less Vader, and swapping out C3PO and R2D2 for BB8 is sheer madness (and further betrayal to the notion that the saga is to be seen through C3PO's eyes).

Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:25 AM (F78YM)

211 Star Wars' popularity isn't just the special effects or the story. It's that it struck at just the right time. Generations of geeks grew up going to sci-fi conventions and talking online about Star Wars (and Star Trek, Tolkien, etc.) and found a community.

That's why Katherine Timpf's comment drew so much backlash. She wasn't just insulting some minor aspect of their lives, she was poking fun as something that had a profound effect on their lives. I know that if it wasn't for a newsgroup and later forum dedicated to Star Wars and Star Trek, I might not have made it through high school. In middle school my closest friend and I were huge star wars fans, and it's one of the reasons that we became friends. Arguably it literally saved my life. This was during a time when my divorced parents were at each others throats and dragged my sister and I into the argument whenever possible.


Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 21, 2015 12:25 AM (fC9RO)

212 209 Certainly got a bunch of Herberts on this thread.

"It's a movie! Get a life!" - things attributed to William Shatner.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:24 AM (nGyiN)

Why? Real life blows.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:25 AM (kpqmD)

213 I saw the clip of Steve Harvey fracking up. I felt so sorry for that poor girl from the Philippines. She was so devastated, trying to smile while utterly crushed. They need to make it up to her somehow. Like giving her Steve Harvey's salary.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 21, 2015 12:26 AM (dvuhZ)

214 I've never expected a movie to change my life, nor have I ever seen a movie that changed my life. However, when I drop my eight bucks to see a movie, I expect it to provide around 100 to 120 minutes or so of escape from teh suckfest that is life.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:21 AM (kpqmD)

*****

Yep. This.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:26 AM (YLidQ)

215 Phantom Menace, main plot arc involves a trade embargo. The Force Awakens, no trade embargo.





Winner: The Force Awakens.




Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2015 12:24 AM



No Jar Jar. Game, set and match... The Phantom Menace.

Posted by: george lucas at December 21, 2015 12:27 AM (EWg9n)

216 The other day I mentioned wanting to see the movie soon enough so it doesn't get spoiled by dickheads. Either unintentional because they aren't thinking or because they are just miserable bitter people unhappy with life and don't want anyone else to have any enjoyment out of anything.

I've just seen a comment justifying that.

Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2015 12:27 AM (zt+N6)

217
Certainly got a bunch of Herberts on this thread.
Posted by: Anna Puma



Star Trek - The Way to Eden - Main Jam in Lounge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pNQYHvhnms

"Long time back when the Galaxy was new -- oo."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 12:28 AM (kdS6q)

218 Insomniac has certainly been eating the Cranky Flakes... yikes.

I was asked by another movie goer after leaving SW:TFA what did I know about Rogue One.

Told him I try not to pay attention to fandom because that leads to aggravation which leads to anger and that leads to the Dark Side.

Got a chuckle for my effort.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:28 AM (nGyiN)

219 Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:28 AM (nGyiN)

I didn't see that as particularly cranky on my part...

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:29 AM (kpqmD)

220 I just read Jonah's piece on Sunny Bunch's piece, noted the date (11/5), and then I realized --

This Bunch piece was the likely cause, last month, of Ace going on a "Sunny Bunch is always wrong about everything" kick.

Nerd argument. Got it now.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 21, 2015 12:29 AM (gyKtp)

221 If you tell me that NO movie could ever elicit those sorts of emotions, then you're:

-Not watching anything.

-Overexposed.

-Ignorant of what others feel.

-or-

-Physiologically incapable of sympathy or empathy.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 12:23 AM (OQ9R7)

*****

Dood. All I said was that a movie, no matter how powerful, would not change my life.

I stand by that.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:29 AM (YLidQ)

222 Colorado Alex ,

Your comment is spot on. middle school and high school age kids need something to get excited about, so that they can take their focus off their problems.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2015 12:31 AM (kGrwF)

223 No Jar Jar. Game, set and match... The Phantom Menace.
Posted by: george lucas at December 21, 2015 12:27 AM (EWg9n)

But Jar Jar is the key to all this, right (if you guys can get him to work)?

It's kinda like poetry; it rhymes.

Posted by: Thrawn at December 21, 2015 12:31 AM (wZ2hu)

224 I have the DVDs of the theatrical release of the original SW trilogy and they're not low quality like everyone says, they're just not hd, and they are worth getting if you want the originals. I also still have my VCR copies and a VCR on which to watch them, now those are low quality.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at December 21, 2015 12:32 AM (iwLCN)

225 Cowboy,

I wasn't a fan of Rey, but I liked Finn precisely because he's obviously in over his head and knows it. He's not Han Solo. By the time he had met Luke Han was an experience smuggler and scoundrel who was used to talking or shooting his way out of difficult situations. Finn is just trying to get away and stay alive.

And Kylo Ren isn't supposed to be a match for Vader. He's an emotionally unstable young man who idolizes Vader but has almost no control of his emotions. Vader was likely to kill you for failing a task. Kylo Ren is likely to kill you because someone else failed *their* task and he needs a punching bag. It kind of shows that the First Order isn't nearly as organized and effective as the Empire.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 21, 2015 12:32 AM (fC9RO)

226 Sorry then Insomniac. My apologies.

I want to thank the Horde again for helping back my Christmas far brighter. You guys rock and helped lift the funk off me. Thank you.

https://www.gofundme.com/8k4zdgw9

So far written 1,200+ words today when before all I could think of was not making mortgage next month while trying to sell everything I could on eBay.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:32 AM (nGyiN)

227 Your comment is spot on. middle school and high school age kids need something to get excited about, so that they can take their focus off their problems.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 21, 2015 12:31 AM (kGrwF)

Weed can do that too. So I've heard.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:32 AM (kpqmD)

228 Mike Hammer's Cat gets whiney and pushy when he thinks it is time to go to bed. Annoying.

Took me a while to figure out what was bothering him, but that's it. Thing is, he only sleeps on the bed every now and then. He just wants the lights turned off.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2015 12:32 AM (9mTYi)

229 Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:32 AM (nGyiN)

It's cool, I was just at a loss on the cranky part.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:33 AM (kpqmD)

230 Kylo Ren is being played like a very cheap violin. He has massive insecurity issues and is more emotionally immature than Anakin ever was.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:34 AM (nGyiN)

231 My life was changed by many a Christmas-time movie. Even Charlie Brown specials had an impact on my life.

Die-Hard?

Not so much, but it is in the "bank" of self-preservation.

...so there's that.

I've cried when I was alone watching movies and I'm sort-of exposing myself, but I think everyone knows I'm no 'Pajama-Boy'.

It's all good.

-Ferris Buehler allowed me to loosen-up as a teenager, but "Fast Times" made me a tighter-ass kid. Balance in The Force, I guess.

I don't see many "life-changing" movies, anymore. I can't even think of one.

But if I told you that my world wasn't shaped by everything from "It's a Wonderful Life" to "Miracle on 34th Street" to "Red Dawn"-?

I'd be lying to myself and you.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 12:36 AM (OQ9R7)

232 "and I'm sort-of exposing myself"

Dude!

*shields eyes*

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:37 AM (kpqmD)

233 Dood. All I said was that a movie, no matter how powerful, would not change my life.
-----------------

I had a movie change my life...for three days. I was paid $20.00 a day as an extra, to sit in the stands at Indy. Spent the time drinking beer.

Oh, yeah, Paul Newman was there.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2015 12:37 AM (9mTYi)

234 Damn. Carrie Fisher looks bad. Did they work some magic on her in the movie?

Posted by: Tuna at December 21, 2015 12:38 AM (JSovD)

235
Oh, yeah, Paul Newman was there.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2015 12:37 AM (9mTYi)

Sweet! Did he autograph your bottle of salad dressing?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:38 AM (kpqmD)

236 And while we're on the subject, ima put a plug in for a much neglected and overlooked classic, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, great flick and had me and my friend Jonothan looking for ufo's for years afterwards.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at December 21, 2015 12:39 AM (iwLCN)

237 Sweet! Did he autograph your bottle of salad dressing?
Posted by: Insomniac
--------------

Nah. Hollywood snob. Never even walked up in the stands and thanked us for doing an outstanding job of acting like drunky race fans.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2015 12:39 AM (9mTYi)

238
she was poking fun as something that had a profound effect on their lives.
Posted by: Colorado Alex



Which I never quite got about Star Wars FIAWOL. If you sandblast away everything else, the life message in SW seems to be, if you're the Anointed One*, life is good -- everyone else gets a lightsaber up the jacksey.

At least Star Trek has it's quaint 60s Peace Corps with Photon Torpedoes multicultural meritocracy.

*midichlorians(tm)

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 12:40 AM (kdS6q)

239 Good evening, overnighters!

Yesternight, I wasn't feeling up to attending the ballet, so Milady went without me. I could've caught the Dem debate, but I wanted something less gruesome, so I watched a Gotham.



But this afternoon, I did attend the Nutcracker.

Daughter takes the dance classes, but is not one of the "kids" anymore, and was not expecting to be part of the show this year. Then, she got cast as a rat, which is fun but not a major dancing role. Then she got put into a couple of other parts, including Snow. Yes, that's right, my daughter is a genuine earned-the-title Special Snowflake!

It's a relatively-small community show, so there were rough edges, but it was spectacular nonetheless, with excellent main guest artists as always, and choreography and direction by very talented professionals.

As I watched, I got to thinking, there's something in the Nutcracker for practically every flavor of the Complaining Class to get upset about.

For the self-defense haters, there's rifles, spears, and even a cannon!

For the PETA gripers, there's abuse of a bear, rats being shot, and mice being battled.

For the cultural segregationists, there's wanton and highly stereotyped cultural appropriation in Chinese, Arabic, and Russian.

For the Depopulation whiners, there's Mother Ginger with her troop of eight kids.

For the diet tyrants, there's lots of imbibing in the first part, and cakes, pies, candies, and other goodies in the second.

Also in the first act, for the social equalists, there's the whole bougoisee setting of the ritzy home.

For the genderlessness mongers, there's girls in frilly dresses playing with dolls, and rowdy, noisy boys teasing them. The girls are pretty and the men are muscular. (For the rest of us, there's legs and cleavage for guys, and taut muscular guy-butt for gals to enjoy!)

And for the anti-religious indignants, there's Christmas, and even angels.

Hard to believe this can be done in this day and age.

Oh, the outrage!

Posted by: mindful webworker - dance the night away at December 21, 2015 12:40 AM (O+0DS)

240 236 And while we're on the subject, ima put a plug in for a much neglected and overlooked classic, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, great flick and had me and my friend Jonothan looking for ufo's for years afterwards.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at December 21, 2015 12:39 AM (iwLCN)

And your mothers screaming at you to stop playing with the goddamned mashed potatoes, no doubt.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:40 AM (kpqmD)

241 I've actually got safe-ish ones and not-so-safe-ish ones. Is yours nine letters before @, with three of the letters being an ampersand? If so, give me a hint as to which major service you're on (e.g. "h" if you're on hotmail) and I'll take a stab from a relatively safe one.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 12:13 AM

yep, 9 letters, not 3 ampersands tho. tand (wifesnickname) comcast

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 12:41 AM (o/90i)

242 Tuna - No, Fisher doesn't look so good in the movie. Mark Hamil looks the best from all the old guys.

Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:41 AM (F78YM)

243 Nah. Hollywood snob. Never even walked up in the stands and thanked us for doing an outstanding job of acting like drunky race fans.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2015 12:39 AM (9mTYi)

Heh. I take it no small amount of method acting was involved.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 12:41 AM (kpqmD)

244 Famous French scientist, "But what does it mean?"

https://youtu.be/KEkW4es9okU

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:42 AM (nGyiN)

245 I'm going to comment and run off but Whitesides in Brighton Colorado had 22 LR for 24.99 for box of 325. (limit 2 per customer) I don't know if they are a chain or only the one store. Did not know they even carried ammo vs only boots and western clothing until today. Gnight all and hope everyone has a Merry Christmas.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 21, 2015 12:42 AM (1OLmv)

246 "Dood. All I said was that a movie, no matter how powerful, would not change my life.
I stand by that.
"
-Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:29 AM (YLidQ)

That's cool, man. I still love you. And I KNOW you know that in the non-gayest of knowing...

...ness.

...hood.

I'm just questioning it. Because I think you're trying to be Way Manly and shit.

Hell... after "Red Dawn", I started "prepping" before it was A Thing! I became "Primitive Camper"!

So... I question your "Human-Proof" stance.

I don't want to kill your manliness... lol.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 12:44 AM (OQ9R7)

247 Fook. I woke up.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 12:44 AM (OkAU/)

248 Fook. I woke up.

I hate when I do that.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 21, 2015 12:45 AM (YJmuy)

249 And while we're on the subject, ima put a plug in for a much neglected and overlooked classic, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, great flick and had me and my friend Jonothan looking for ufo's for years afterwards.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at December 21, 2015 12:39 AM (iwLCN)


I enjoyed that movie even though not one bit of it made any sense, at all. And the worst sort of humiliation of having a frog boss Americans around ...

I did really get a kick out of them playing musical language to the aliens whenh they didn't have a fucking clue what any of it meant. It was a prediction about the global warming hysteria to come, I think, and the pseudo-scientists who would be running it. Very prescient in that respect.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 12:45 AM (zc3Db)

250 Heh. I take it no small amount of method acting was involved.
Posted by: Insomniac
-----------

A thing to undertaken only by the experienced. We really put ourselves into the act.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 21, 2015 12:47 AM (9mTYi)

251 Which I never quite got about Star Wars FIAWOL. If you sandblast away everything else, the life message in SW seems to be, if you're the Anointed One*, life is good -- everyone else gets a lightsaber up the jacksey.

Life was hardly good to any the so-called Anointed Ones. Luke's family was butchered, he was pursued by the Empire, tortured, mutilated, and saw numerous friends and comrades die.

Anakin was a slave and later a Jedi Knight, spending his time going from one crisis to the next and forced to a live a monastic life with no ties to anyone.

The message I took away was that we all have to choose whether to use our capabilities for good, or for evil. Luke and Han both have to make choices in the film whether or not so fight for good, or to abandon the fight.

Luke as the ordinary boy with a special talent that made him hated by others probably resonated with many geeks who were smarter than their peers, unable to fit in, and faced social stigma because of it.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 21, 2015 12:47 AM (fC9RO)

252 Anna, Ive been there - hell, with the exception of the mortgage part I AM there! I worry about the power and/or water bill every month.
I don't even have much around here worth selling on eBay, so you're a step ahead of me...
Hang in there, keep at it. Looking forward to my delivery.

Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 12:48 AM (lDfK8)

253 So... I question your "Human-Proof" stance.

I don't want to kill your manliness... lol.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 12:44 AM (OQ9R7)

*****

Well, as movies as we are discussing them tonight are based on fiction, I don't see how anyone could let a movie change their life.

If it is a movie based on facts, then knowing said facts has probably already had any impact it is going to have on my life.

Nome sain?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:48 AM (YLidQ)

254 Geez Chi, you should have bought the Kindle version then... or nothing at all.

I best get back to writing. I have a few fans depending upon me.

Take care all. Please no blasters! Thanks again. Good night.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 12:51 AM (nGyiN)

255 242
Gee, that's too bad. I saw a photo of Carrie Fisher and her mother, Debbie Reynolds, together at some awards ceremony and I have to say the mother actually looks better than her daughter.

Posted by: Tuna at December 21, 2015 12:51 AM (JSovD)

256 Well, as movies as we are discussing them tonight are based on fiction, I don't see how anyone could let a movie change their life.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:48 AM (YLidQ)


Just because a story is fiction doesn't mean that the author couldn't put genius insights into it. In fact, it is easier to do in fiction since the author is in control of every aspect of the setting and story.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 12:52 AM (zc3Db)

257 Tuna - Carrie Fisher had some very serious substance abuse problems, they took a toll on her. She's gotten her act together, that's a great story. But her body has paid the price.

Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:54 AM (F78YM)

258 Just because a story is fiction doesn't mean that the author couldn't put genius insights into it. In fact, it is easier to do in fiction since the author is in control of every aspect of the setting and story.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 12:52 AM (zc3Db)

*****

Sure it is. The problem is, I already know it is make believe.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:54 AM (YLidQ)

259 68
What is so sucky about the LCS?



Modular design so it can have mission suites swapped out. Except they do not all work. Supposedly automated to reduce crew workload. And crew. Except on board ship, especially small ships, a lot of the work is just brute strength and not pushing buttons and they don't have enough crew. Weapons systems . . . dubious. And they cost an order of magnitude more than they were supposed to. Add to that, on December 11th the 5th LCS USS Milwaukee was en-route from Halifax, Nova Scotia to her first duty port at San Diego. She suffered a total propulsion failure that early reports said was caused by metal shavings from an engine component failure that the filtration system failed to catch. There were also reports that the engine component was made in China, but that is as yet unconfirmed. Had to be towed to Little Creek, Virginia.

We do need a low end warship. This costs more than any low end warship should, which means we will not have enough of them. And they don't perform up to spec.

But they do make contractors and lobbyists real happy. Their kids won't be sailing them into harms way.

Posted by: Subotai Bahadur at December 21, 2015 12:56 AM (AbFLR)

260 249 And while we're on the subject, ima put a plug in for a much neglected and overlooked classic, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, great flick and had me and my friend Jonothan looking for ufo's for years afterwards.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at December 21, 2015 12:39 AM (iwLCN)

I enjoyed that movie even though not one bit of it made any sense, at all. And the worst sort of humiliation of having a frog boss Americans around ...

I did really get a kick out of them playing musical language to the aliens whenh they didn't have a fucking clue what any of it meant. It was a prediction about the global warming hysteria to come, I think, and the pseudo-scientists who would be running it. Very prescient in that respect.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 12:45 AM (zc3Db)



At the big musical communication scene, I expected it to go one of two ways -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tqxzWdKKu8 or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJZYG5qwHHI .

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 12:57 AM (EzgxV)

261 248 Fook. I woke up.

I hate when I do that.
Posted: by Blanco

Hmm, doesn't that kinda beat the alternative?

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 12:57 AM (o/90i)

262 The thing about Luke Skywalker being "The Annointed One" and all -- Luke was always the weakest link on screen. The merry band of misfits around him saved the original film for The Light Side. You had Han Solo, the droids, Obi-Wan, ... all of whom were more compelling and deeper characters than Luke ever was. For The Dark Side you had Lord Vader, perhaps the greatest movie villain of all time. The truth is that *everybody but Luke* made the film. The latest film has Fey in that unenviable Luke role, and she lacks the support from The Light Side (except when guess who Han and Chewy parachute in to ride again). (There is no Vader equivalent for The Dark Side).

Posted by: Cowboy at December 21, 2015 12:59 AM (F78YM)

263 Sure it is. The problem is, I already know it is make believe.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:54 AM (YLidQ)


And? Are you saying that you don't think anyone can learn things from fictional tales by, say, Shakespeare or Orwell or any other author who uses fiction to get their points across?

Learning something from a story is totally independent of whether the story is fiction or fact. Stories contain information that the author chooses to put in them. The problem isn't with the story type (as to whether there is something to learn from a story) but whether the author has anything of import to say.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 12:59 AM (zc3Db)

264 Hmm, doesn't that kinda beat the alternative?

Sleep?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 21, 2015 01:00 AM (YJmuy)

265 Which I never quite got about Star Wars FIAWOL. If you sandblast away everything else, the life message in SW seems to be, if you're the Anointed One*, life is good -- everyone else gets a lightsaber up the jacksey.
At least Star Trek has it's quaint 60s Peace Corps with Photon Torpedoes multicultural meritocracy.
*midichlorians(tm)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 12:40 AM (kdS6q)


Actually that's one of many reasons that the fans hated the prequels.

In the original movie (ep. IV) it was implied that the force was available to anyone who chose to study it with advanced powers coming to those who were most disciplined and diligent in their study. In the prequels it was pretty much a biological thing and that changed its whole nature in the story.

Posted by: Maetenloch at December 21, 2015 01:01 AM (wqVD1)

266 Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 12:57 AM (EzgxV)

Ha! Dueling banjos blew the Close Encounters pseudo-scientists out of the water!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 01:01 AM (zc3Db)

267 ....or maybe even https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUBfVSJKyww .

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:01 AM (EzgxV)

268 Nope, Anna.
I believe in karma. I can use all the good kind I can get.
And if the price of a book gets the power cut off, so be it. I know how to make candles.

Go write. And, Go Right.

Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 01:02 AM (lDfK8)

269 263
Ahem.
The Bible?

Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 01:04 AM (lDfK8)

270 266 Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 12:57 AM (EzgxV)

Ha! Dueling banjos blew the Close Encounters pseudo-scientists out of the water!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 01:01 AM (zc3Db)



So, would the aliens have the guitar or the banjo? And what does that mean for future alien-human relations?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:04 AM (EzgxV)

271 ....or maybe even https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUBfVSJKyww .

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:01 AM (EzgxV)


Nah. The other possibility would have been Pete Townshend smashing his guitar and amplifiers and the stage or Jimi Hendrix lighting it on fire and then tearing the gear up. That sort of musical ending would have made a better Close Encounters.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 01:05 AM (zc3Db)

272 And? Are you saying that you don't think anyone can learn things from fictional tales by, say, Shakespeare or Orwell or any other author who uses fiction to get their points across?

Learning something from a story is totally independent of whether the story is fiction or fact. Stories contain information that the author chooses to put in them. The problem isn't with the story type (as to whether there is something to learn from a story) but whether the author has anything of import to say.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 12:59 AM (zc3Db)

*****

My original statement was that a movie would not "change my life".

Do not recall saying I would not learn something. Good grief.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 01:06 AM (YLidQ)

273 Goodnight all, fun chat tonight.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 21, 2015 01:07 AM (ntObR)

274 So, would the aliens have the guitar or the banjo? And what does that mean for future alien-human relations?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:04 AM (EzgxV)

Spoilers for the upcoming Independence Day movie sequel - older Jeff Goldblum tries his Mac virus trick again on the bigger alien mothership, but of course it doesn't work. In another spark of inspiration/craziness, he tries broadcasting a banjo jam and it, unexpectedly, causes all the alien's heads to implode.

Posted by: Thrawn at December 21, 2015 01:07 AM (wZ2hu)

275 So, to use a measure that Progressives can understand ...

Apparently, any member of the Palin family (including Trig) is smarter than Canadian Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau.

Barack Obama relieved

Posted by: Debbie Weaselwords Schultz at December 21, 2015 01:07 AM (e8kgV)

276 Next question: Will "Independence Day 2" be decent or an overblown disaster?

Posted by: Tuna at December 21, 2015 01:07 AM (JSovD)

277 TFA is devoid of new ideas. Not one memorable spaceship, alien race or environment. Its like the videogame spin offs, where they are only permitted to make minor alterations to the movie source material.

Then there is the lazy writing; not once, but two times in the story does a main character get captured by The New Order and carted back to Star Destroyer in order to be interrogatted.

On plus side, I thought the new heroes worked and the dialogue was pretty good.

Posted by: Serious Cat at December 21, 2015 01:08 AM (ADIwO)

278
Spoilers for the upcoming Independence Day movie sequel - older Jeff Goldblum tries his Mac virus trick again on the bigger alien mothership, but of course it doesn't work. In another spark of inspiration/craziness, he tries broadcasting a banjo jam and it, unexpectedly, causes all the alien's heads to implode.

Posted by: Thrawn at December 21, 2015 01:07 AM (wZ2hu)



Slim Whitman?

Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2015 01:09 AM (zt+N6)

279 276 Next question: Will "Independence Day 2" be decent or an overblown disaster?
Posted by: Tuna at December 21, 2015 01:07 AM (JSovD)

Depends on the seriousness/comedy mix.

Posted by: Thrawn at December 21, 2015 01:09 AM (wZ2hu)

280 Good grief.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 01:06 AM (YLidQ)


Good grief, indeed.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 01:10 AM (zc3Db)

281 Hmm, doesn't that kinda beat the alternative?

Sleep?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 21, 2015 01:00 AM

LOL, no. Not ever waking up.

I likes me lots of sleep, just not ready for permanent.

I've got another glass of wine to drink in the near future.

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 01:10 AM (o/90i)

282 We do need a low end warship. This costs more than any low end warship should, which means we will not have enough of them. And they don't perform up to spec.
Posted by: Subotai Bahadur at December 21, 2015 12:56 AM (AbFLR)

----
Engine failures aside the ships are also somewhat 'flimsy'. They are flimsy in order to meet the speed requirement.

Posted by: RioBravo at December 21, 2015 01:11 AM (NUqwG)

283 271 ....or maybe even https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUBfVSJKyww .

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:01 AM (EzgxV)

Nah. The other possibility would have been Pete Townshend smashing his guitar and amplifiers and the stage or Jimi Hendrix lighting it on fire and then tearing the gear up. That sort of musical ending would have made a better Close Encounters.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 01:05 AM (zc3Db)



Once initial musical dialog is initiated, it goes to 9/8 for ECC....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:12 AM (EzgxV)

284 Slim Whitman?
Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2015 01:09 AM (zt+N6)

Ha, too obvious!

I think that Goldblum fetches the surviving members of Nickelback and their banjo jams are what destroy the second alien wave.

Posted by: Thrawn at December 21, 2015 01:12 AM (wZ2hu)

285 Ohhhh...

You bastards are turning on me!

*HAH!*

Here's what you really need to know...

I was raised on The Bible and Charlie Brown. I didn't think much of either until I started getting in trouble.

Take of that what you will. I'll not explain further because it wasn't until I believed in something that I became embarrassed by my actions.

I know Love, now. I know Redemption, now. I know how to laugh, cry, when and why.

I know what it takes to be A Man and I plan to continue on this path until God calls me Home.

I am not embarrassed by "moments" that make me cry as if I'd lost my own Father. Instead, I understand them and build from them.

I become stronger by moments of weakness and movies, songs and Humanity itself offer moments from which to build my character through learned clarity.

Am I still an imperfect douchebag?

I fear I'll always be that.

What I cannot stand is the Impossibility of Greater Achievement. Should I choose to pursue nothing, I'll gather what I fear.

Should I find appropriate emotion and character through small doses of Humanity?

I'll take 'em.

They don't call it "God-Fearing" because you're close to death. It is then that you're closest to God.

I'd like to find that peace through serving while I'm still here. I'd like to find it through Humanity's beautiful creations.

If we are truly created in His image, than we can find His truth behind even the most terrible of lies.

Is that "Word Salad"?

Well, so be it.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:12 AM (OQ9R7)

286 But I will be honest - if you didn't like the original Star Wars or at least feel some kind of emotional stirring from it, then I think you're probably missing certain neural circuitry in your brain. This doesn't mean that you're a bad person but it does mean that I will discount your views on what does and does not constitute good entertainment.


Posted by: Maetenloch at December 21, 2015 12:09 AM (wqVD1)

I would say the same thing about Empire Strikes Back.

Posted by: Blano at December 21, 2015 01:12 AM (C3E0x)

287 277 TFA is devoid of new ideas. Not one memorable spaceship, alien race or environment. Its like the videogame spin offs, where they are only permitted to make minor alterations to the movie source material.

Then there is the lazy writing; not once, but two times in the story does a main character get captured by The New Order and carted back to Star Destroyer in order to be interrogatted.

On plus side, I thought the new heroes worked and the dialogue was pretty good.

Posted by: Serious Cat at December 21, 2015 01:08 AM (ADIwO)



Frankly I'll take the only slightly altered X-Wings vs. the Prequels "Brand new ship designs in every movie to sell more and more and more!!!!"

Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2015 01:12 AM (zt+N6)

288 Good grief, indeed.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 01:10 AM (zc3Db)

******

Well, minus any other rebuttal about my post, that is provocative, very intentionally I'm sure.

I am in too fine a mood to engage tonight, so you are just going to have to continue playing with yourself.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 01:14 AM (YLidQ)

289 Update - Police in #LasVegas say crash which killed one person and critically injured six others was "possibly intentional".

Posted by: Thrawn at December 21, 2015 01:15 AM (wZ2hu)

290 But I will be honest - if you didn't like the original Star Wars or at least feel some kind of emotional stirring from it, then I think you're probably missing certain neural circuitry in your brain.


Posted by: Maetenloch at December 21, 2015 12:09 AM (wqVD1)


LOL.

I didn't see that before. Pretty funny stuff.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 01:15 AM (zc3Db)

291 Is that "Word Salad"?
Well, so be it.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:12 AM

Thanks for that Slap. Also TY for the rec of scrambled eggs for the wife. She could eat em and loved em.

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 01:17 AM (o/90i)

292 Posted my ballet comment, then went back and read the post and all the comments.

How inappropriate of me to not say something about Star Wars. Sorrryyyyyy. Here:

I want that t-shirt.

* also *

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
2 [54 names] 'mindful webworker - what, me read?'

Really? #2? and second week in a row? Maet, have you modified the sockpuppet counting algorithm?

"Hello, my name is Mindful Webworker and I'm a sockpuppeting addict..."

Group: "Hello, Mindful!"

Posted by: mindful webworker - trek wars! at December 21, 2015 01:18 AM (O+0DS)

293
Luke as the ordinary boy....
Posted by: Colorado Alex



That's just it. Luke isn't ordinary, he's ordained. As is Anakin in the prequels.

As opposed to, say The Three Musketeers, where d'Artagnan is a hick from Fromagetown who sword-fights up the ladder.

Aristocracy vs Meritocracy. Being born into a position in society that you fight to preserve or advance, or achieving a position in the first place by skill, pluck or luck. Both of these are central themes in fictional narratives. And one isn't necessarily better than the other and Chacun son Gout for which one prefers at any given time.

But they're not the same thing.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 21, 2015 01:18 AM (kdS6q)

294 Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 12:57 AM (EzgxV)

So, are the aliens the inbred banjo-pickers or the doomed weekenders on a canoe trip?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 01:18 AM (kpqmD)

295 Never has an evil empire had such a great theme. Makes you want to sign right up and go crush some rebels.

I gotta admit, I didn't spend nearly as much time on X-Wing as I did Tie Fighter.

Part of that was the latter was quite a bit harder.

Posted by: Methos at December 21, 2015 01:19 AM (ZbV+0)

296 285 Ohhhh...

You bastards are turning on me!

*HAH!*

Here's what you really need to know...

I was raised on The Bible and Charlie Brown. I didn't think much of either until I started getting in trouble.

Take of that what you will. I'll not explain further because it wasn't until I believed in something that I became embarrassed by my actions.

I know Love, now. I know Redemption, now. I know how to laugh, cry, when and why.

I know what it takes to be A Man and I plan to continue on this path until God calls me Home.

I am not embarrassed by "moments" that make me cry as if I'd lost my own Father. Instead, I understand them and build from them.

I become stronger by moments of weakness and movies, songs and Humanity itself offer moments from which to build my character through learned clarity.

Am I still an imperfect douchebag?

I fear I'll always be that.

What I cannot stand is the Impossibility of Greater Achievement. Should I choose to pursue nothing, I'll gather what I fear.

Should I find appropriate emotion and character through small doses of Humanity?

I'll take 'em.

They don't call it "God-Fearing" because you're close to death. It is then that you're closest to God.

I'd like to find that peace through serving while I'm still here. I'd like to find it through Humanity's beautiful creations.

If we are truly created in His image, than we can find His truth behind even the most terrible of lies.

Is that "Word Salad"?

Well, so be it.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:12 AM (OQ9R7)



Slap, you have taught me things about the nature of my relationship with God and man through your eloquence. Thank you.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:20 AM (EzgxV)

297 294 Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 12:57 AM (EzgxV)

So, are the aliens the inbred banjo-pickers or the doomed weekenders on a canoe trip?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 01:18 AM (kpqmD)



That's what I was wondering. Opens up new worlds, doesn't it?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:22 AM (EzgxV)

298 That's what I was wondering. Opens up new worlds, doesn't it?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:22 AM (EzgxV)

Would make for some interesting dialogue.

"Drop that there spacesuit, c'mon now. Just take it right off."

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 01:24 AM (kpqmD)

299 Damn I fell asleep and just now woke up

Woot woot ONT

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian , bamboozled by love at December 21, 2015 01:24 AM (voOPb)

300 I'm surprised chemjeff didn't make the top 10, what with his nearly nightly defense of the GOP as doing ok against multiple challengers.

Posted by: Blano at December 21, 2015 01:24 AM (C3E0x)

301 On The Force Awakens. I enjoyed it. I pretty much got what I wanted and expected from it. I could list a minor complaint but it would be a spoiler, and I'm not an asshole like others who just can't help themselves.

Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2015 01:26 AM (zt+N6)

302 I could list a minor complaint but it would be a spoiler, and I'm not an asshole like others who just can't help themselves.
Posted by: buzzion at December 21, 2015 01:26 AM (zt+N6)

You're a pretty decent fellow, for a dead guy.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 01:26 AM (kpqmD)

303 ..."If it is a movie based on facts, then knowing said facts has probably already had any impact it is going to have on my life.
Nome sain?
"
-Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 12:48 AM (YLidQ)

I do. But if you didn't have a visceral reaction when "Private Ryan", knelt before the grave of "Captain Miller" and asked his wife if he'd been a Good Man and lived a Good Life?

...you might not have the Grace to understand those who have come; and sacrificed before us.

If that scene doesn't jar you. If the opening scene of that movie doesn't jar you?

...wow.

Just...

-wow.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:27 AM (OQ9R7)

304 I'm thinking Vegas is jihad... People tried to stop her and she went up on the sidewalk and just kept going on hitting people.

Posted by: PJ at December 21, 2015 01:28 AM (cHuNI)

305 298 That's what I was wondering. Opens up new worlds, doesn't it?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:22 AM (EzgxV)

Would make for some interesting dialogue.

"Drop that there spacesuit, c'mon now. Just take it right off."

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 01:24 AM (kpqmD)



"He got a real pretty mouth ain't he?"

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:28 AM (EzgxV)

306 Slap,
Have I told you lately that I love you?
I'm serious, you know.

I keep my (slightly tattered) Bible on the coffee table these days. I try to read a bit every day. But I'm far from perfect about that - or anythings else for that matter.
Whenever I see a passage or verse referenced here, I look it up.
I must say - I find you and Fenelon to be great inspiration, as well as my big sis (she is going through a living hell AGAIN, and could use prayers ), but has faith I cannot understand.

I won't even pretend to be a believer. But i find a little peace in you being around. Even thinking that I can call you a friend. Keep being you, because you're doing good, man.

Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 01:29 AM (lDfK8)

307 To me? Life-changing in a profound manner.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:30 AM (OQ9R7)

308 I also still have my VCR copies and a VCR on which to watch them, now those are low quality.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at December 21, 2015 12:32 AM (iwLCN)


I pitched hundreds of old VHS' about two years ago in a cleaning fit. They really are quite unwatchable.

We're spoiled.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at December 21, 2015 01:30 AM (WWdgA)

309 you might not have the Grace to understand those who have come; and sacrificed before us.

If that scene doesn't jar you. If the opening scene of that movie doesn't jar you?

...wow.

Just...

-wow.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:27 AM (OQ9R7)

****

You are getting way, way out of bounds here. Time to STFD and STFU on this topic as far as it concerns me. You know nothing.

Nome sain? You are way over the line.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 01:30 AM (YLidQ)

310 Thanks, guys. Remember, though... I'm just another douchebag with a keyboard.

I don't have the patience to start a cult, guys.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:32 AM (OQ9R7)

311 Update - Police in #LasVegas say crash which killed one person and critically injured six others was "possibly intentional".

Posted by: Thrawn


Not a good situation when we have to hope for crazy psycho explanation.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 21, 2015 01:33 AM (9YDUz)

312 @292 Mrs. MH has heard about my little accomplishment. She said I have too much free time on y hands, and she can stoop that

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 21, 2015 01:33 AM (voOPb)

313 Good night, geeky Gracies!

* beams up *

Posted by: mindful webworker - zzzzz at December 21, 2015 01:34 AM (O+0DS)

314 G'night everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 21, 2015 01:35 AM (YJmuy)

315 Same here. 'Night all.

Posted by: Blano at December 21, 2015 01:36 AM (C3E0x)

316 Time for me to sign off, fellow reprobates. Good night.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 21, 2015 01:37 AM (kpqmD)

317 "Damn I fell asleep and just now woke up "


Same thing happended to me

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:38 AM (OkAU/)

318 "Possibly intentional."

The longer it takes to release a name, the worse this is going to look.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 21, 2015 01:39 AM (3myMJ)

319 " Thanks, guys. Remember, though... I'm just another douchebag with a keyboard. "


Oh, we know that.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:40 AM (OkAU/)

320 The Las Vegas thing really bothers me. She had a baby in the car. Sudden jihad syndrome?

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 01:40 AM (BHl9S)

321 Sorry I haven't commented yet, been researching the Dutch driving instruction market.

Haven't yet determined whether you're required to accept all applicants o

Posted by: JEM at December 21, 2015 01:41 AM (o+SC1)

322 You are getting way, way out of bounds here. Time to STFD and STFU on this topic as far as it concerns me. You know nothing.
Nome sain? You are way over the line.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 01:30 AM (YLidQ)


Actually we don't know what you're saying because you haven't really explained it fully. You keep stating that no movie can change your life with the implication seeming to be that is because you do not have any strong emotional reactions to movies and hence they have no effect on you.

Slap may be extrapolating beyond what you said or implied in an unflattering way but honestly I was kinda thinking along the same lines as well but just didn't feel like delving into it.

Posted by: Maetenloch at December 21, 2015 01:42 AM (wqVD1)

323 "Nome sain? You are way over the line."
-Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 01:30 AM (YLidQ)

I didn't mean to get personal. My sincere apologies for taking it there. Like I said, I'm just a douchebag with a keyboard.

That doesn't excuse my intrusion, invasion and pre-concieved notions; thinking I know anything about you.

I do not. I do not know you. I do not know your heart. I do not know your soul.

Take not from my words a "truth" about others. I only speak for myself. I may question others, but I cannot know a soul from simple words on a screen.

Forgive me, Man With No Party. I was out of line and horribly wrong to question your heart, faith and soul.

In beg your pardon.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:42 AM (OQ9R7)

324 "Thanks, guys. Remember, though... I'm just another douchebag with a keyboard. "

Oh, we know that.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:40 AM

I've heard there's several around here. Of course not you or me...*shifts eyes around ONT*

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 01:45 AM (o/90i)

325 "In beg your pardon. "


Calm down, Slap.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:45 AM (OkAU/)

326 Totally o/t but an interesting email I was forwarded from a buddy:

> I'm a 54 year old consulting engineer and make between $60,000 and $125,000 per year, depending on how hard I work and whether or not there are work projects out there for me.
>
> My girlfriend is 61 and makes about $18,000 per year, working as a part-time mail clerk.
>
> For me, making $60,000 a year, under ObamaCare, the cheapest, lowest grade policy I can buy, which also happens to impose a $5,000 deductible, costs $482 per month.
>
> For my girlfriend, the same exact policy, same deductible, costs $1 per month. That's right, $1 per month. I'm not making this up.
>
> Don't believe me? Just go to http://www.coveredca.gov/ , the ObamaCare website for California and enter the parameters I've mentioned above and see for yourself. By the way, my zip code is 93940. You'll need to enter that.
>
> So OK, clearly ObamaCare is a scheme that involves putting the cost burden of healthcare onto the middle and upper-income wage earners.
>
> But there's a lot more to it. Stick with me.
>
> And before I make my next points, I'd like you to think about something:
>
> I live in Monterey County, in Central California. We have a large land mass but just 426,000 residents - about the population of Colorado Springs or the city of Omaha.
>
> But we do have a large Hispanic population, including a large number of illegal aliens, and to serve this group we have Natividad Medical Center, a massive, Federally subsidized county medical complex that takes up an area about one-third the size of the Chrysler Corporation automobile assembly plant in Belvedere, Illinois (per Google Earth)
>
> Natividad has state-of-the-art operating rooms, Computed Tomography and Magnetic Resonance Imaging, fully equipped, 24 hour emergency room, and much more.
>
> If you have no insurance, if you've been in a drive-by shooting or have overdosed on crack cocaine, this is where you go. And it's essentially free, because almost everyone who ends up in the ER is uninsured.
>
> Last year, 2,735 babies were born at Natividad. 32% of these were born to out-of-wedlock teenage mothers, 93% of which were Hispanic.
>
> Less than 20% could demonstrate proof of citizenship, and 71% listed their native language as Spanish. Of these 876 births, only 40 were covered under [any kind of] private health insurance. The taxpayers paid for the other 836.
>
> And in case you were wondering about the entire population - all 2,735 births - less than 24% involved insured coverage or even partial payment on behalf of the patient to the hospital in exchange for services. Keep this in mind as we move forward.
>
> Now consider this:
>
> If I want to upgrade my policy to a low-deductible premium policy, such as what I had with my last employer, my cost is $886 per month.
>
> But my girlfriend can upgrade her policy to the very same level, for just $4 per month.
>
> That's right, $4 per month. $48 per year for a zero-deductible, premium healthcare policy - the kind of thing you get when you work at IBM (except of course, IBM employees pay an average of $170 per month out of pocket for their coverage).
>
> I mean, it's bad enough that I will be forced to subsidize the ObamaCare scheme in the first place. But even if I agreed with the basic scheme, which of course I do not, I would never agree to subsidize premium policies.
>
> If I have to pay $482 a month for a budget policy, I sure as hell do not want the guy I'm subsidizing to get a better policy, for less than 1% of what I have to fork out each month for a low-end policy.
>
> Why must I pay $482 per month for something the other guy gets for a dollar?
>
> And why should the other guy get to buy an $886 policy for $4 a month?
>
> Think about this: I have to pay $10,632 a year for the same thing that the other guy can get for $48.
>
>
> $10,000 of net income is 60 days of full time work as an engineer; $48 is something I could make collecting aluminum cans and plastic bottles, one day a month.
>
> Are you with me on this? Are you starting to get an idea what ObamaCare is really about?
>
> ObamaCare is not about dealing with inequities in the healthcare system. That's just the cover story.
>
> The real story is that it is a massive, political power grab.
>
> Do you think anyone who can insure himself with a premium policy for $4 a month will vote for anyone but the political party that provides him such a deal?
>
> ObamaCare is about enabling, subsidizing, and expanding the Left's political power base, at taxpayer expense.
>
> Why would I vote for anyone but a Democrat if I can have babies for $4 a month?
>
> For that matter, why would I go to college or strive for a better job or income if it means I have to pay real money for healthcare coverage? Heck, why study engineering when I can be a schlub for $20K per year and buy a new F-150 with all the money I'm saving?
>
> And think about those $4-a-month babies - think in terms of propagation models. Think of just how many babies will be born to irresponsible, under-educated mothers. Will we get a new crop of brain surgeons and particle physicists from the dollar baby club, or will we need more cops, criminal courts and prisons?
>
> One thing you can be certain of: At $4 a month, they'll multiply, and multiply, and multiply.
>
> ObamaCare: It's all about political power.
>
> Remember folks, November 2016 is just around the corner. If you want to continue this kind of redistribution of wealth, then don't "forward" this email. But if you are sick and tired of the money grab by the current administration, then "forward" this email to everyone in your Address Book. VOTE IN 2016!!!!
>
> One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. Plato

Posted by: Theforgottenman at December 21, 2015 01:46 AM (A8sWO)

327 Wall of text!!!

Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 01:48 AM (lDfK8)

328 "I've heard there's several around here. Of course not you or me...*shifts eyes around ONT*


Oh well, try to be nice, make talk. Then some dick comes along and ruins it all. I ain't naming names YMMV.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:48 AM (OkAU/)

329 Slap may be extrapolating beyond what you said or implied in an unflattering way but honestly I was kinda thinking along the same lines as well but just didn't feel like delving into it.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 21, 2015 01:42 AM (wqVD1)

******

Not delving into it would be good. My original comment, way back when, was directed at a comment that the new Star Wars movie would "change your life".

Yeah, No. If your life can be upturned by a movie, then IMO you are doing it wrong.

I

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 01:48 AM (YLidQ)

330 If you made a batch of kool-aid, Slap, I'd take a cup.

Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 01:50 AM (lDfK8)

331 Posted by: Maetenloch at December 21, 2015 01:42 AM (wqVD1)

And let me clarify that this is really about my annoyance over the lost opportunity to have an interesting conversation about whether movies (or fiction in general) can change your life and what changing your life means in different contexts. Instead people just viewed it as trying to start a fight.

Posted by: Maetenloch at December 21, 2015 01:50 AM (wqVD1)

332 Wow....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:50 AM (OkAU/)

333 There are a whole lot of unpleasant things happening all at once lately....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:52 AM (EzgxV)

334 Oh well, try to be nice, make talk. Then some dick comes along and ruins it all. I ain't naming names YMMV.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:48 AM

Well, tonight's been mild, so far. OK, I'm old...what does YMMV mean?

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 01:53 AM (o/90i)

335 "Calm down, Slap."
-Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:45 AM (OkAU/)

I'm completely at ease, Sir. It is simply a turn of phrase. I know in my heart where I was coming from, R.K.

I ask this because a friend was so repulsed by my words that he warned me of something that I had no idea I was getting close-to.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:53 AM (OQ9R7)

336 334 Oh well, try to be nice, make talk. Then some dick comes along and ruins it all. I ain't naming names YMMV.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:48 AM

Well, tonight's been mild, so far. OK, I'm old...what does YMMV mean?

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 01:53 AM (o/90i)



Your Mileage May Vary.



Gotten any emails recently?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:55 AM (EzgxV)

337 "OK, I'm old...what does YMMV mean? "


Oh, has nothing to do with being old or young. Your Mileage May Vary.

Dont know what you might get.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:55 AM (OkAU/)

338 And let me clarify that this is really about my annoyance over the lost opportunity to have an interesting conversation about whether movies (or fiction in general) can change your life and what changing your life means in different contexts. Instead people just viewed it as trying to start a fight.
Posted by: Maetenloch at December 21, 2015 01:50 AM (wqVD1)

*****

Why can't this discussion continue? I provided one dissenting opinion. If I have that kind of power, then I am gonna hafta broaden my horizons.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 01:56 AM (YLidQ)

339 Your Mileage May Vary

Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 01:56 AM (lDfK8)

340 I didn't think I was treading in forbidden waters, MWNP. You have my apology.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:56 AM (OQ9R7)

341 333 There are a whole lot of unpleasant things happening all at once lately....
Posted by: cthulhu
-----------------
You ate Chipotle again, didn't you?

Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 01:58 AM (lDfK8)

342 I didn't think I was treading in forbidden waters, MWNP. You have my apology.
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:56 AM (OQ9R7)

*****

Accepted, and thank you.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 21, 2015 01:59 AM (YLidQ)

343 "I ask this because a friend was so repulsed by my words that he warned me of something that I had no idea I was getting close-to."


"Friends" say stupid shit. I've said stupid shit to friends over the years. Time plays it all out.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 01:59 AM (OkAU/)

344 I don't want to argue with anyone, but I think when you just write with no tone of voice, things may be misinterpreted. I miss jokes. I may write something half tongue in cheek and people misunderstand.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 01:59 AM (BHl9S)

345 And thanks, guys. I am grateful for your support. Everything should be okay, though!

Nothing to see here! LOL!

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 01:59 AM (OQ9R7)

346 Matenloch, thank you for the content as always.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:01 AM (BHl9S)

347 And let me clarify that this is really about my annoyance over the lost opportunity to have an interesting conversation about whether movies (or fiction in general) can change your life and what changing your life means in different contexts. Instead people just viewed it as trying to start a fight.

Posted by: Maetenloch at December 21, 2015 01:50 AM

I think that would be an interesting conversation. Sorry it didn't develop the way you hoped.

You should try to bring it up again in an ONT. Maybe not tied to Star Wars as much as to let it maybe move more it the direction you want.

But Morons are gonna Moron. :0

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 02:01 AM (o/90i)

348 Yeah, Cali - commenting leaves a lot to be desired. A lot can be lost on the internet

Hi, btw.

Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 02:02 AM (lDfK8)

349 "I don't want to argue with anyone, "


CG, you got them tractors all oiled and greased up?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 02:03 AM (OkAU/)

350 Gotten any emails recently?
Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 01:55 AM

Indeed, just found it.

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 02:03 AM (o/90i)

351 341 333 There are a whole lot of unpleasant things happening all at once lately....
Posted by: cthulhu
-----------------
You ate Chipotle again, didn't you?

Posted by: The Least Interesting Man In The World at December 21, 2015 01:58 AM (lDfK



I could say that we'll be lucky if we avoid civil war in the next 12 months, but I can easily imagine contingencies that would be worse. Summing probabilities, civil war may be a best case. Gold, silver, brass, and lead, my friends.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 02:04 AM (EzgxV)

352 I have only seen the first Starwars when it came out. I was I think 10. Return of the Jedi too. I don't remember them very well at all.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:05 AM (BHl9S)

353 That's what I'm saying, CaliGirl. I might have been bland, crass or I missed something. Either way, it doesn't matter.

I certainly wasn't trying to be "helpful"...

(Not that that's my job, really. You know.)

I expect he'll offer me the same grace in the future!


Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:06 AM (OQ9R7)

354 Was that you and I that was having the conversation about Kubotas vs Deere?

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:07 AM (BHl9S)

355 Oh, no, looks like we scared CG away.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 02:08 AM (OkAU/)

356 I'm here

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:09 AM (BHl9S)

357 Oh, there she is. Yes, ma'am we were talking that.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 02:10 AM (OkAU/)

358 Ricardo, I asked. He prefers john Deere for the pulling capabilities. He said he can have 100 HP(I hope that's right) Deere and Kubotas and when it's wet he will need 3 JD to pull the machine and it will take 5-6 kubotas to do the same thing. We also have a bunch of these red tractors called SAME. He pronounced it Sam e. I'm not bragging but he has I think 90 or more tractors.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:15 AM (BHl9S)

359 Looks like we have killed the thread. By which I mean me,

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 02:16 AM (OkAU/)

360 I remember going to the first Star Wars Film and I think may have gone to the 2nd one but I can't recall. I've never been a big film goer and nobody I dated may have been interested in seeing the films either. So that obviously qualifies as me not being a devotee of the genre.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 02:17 AM (qES5k)

361 Ricardo, I'll take that hit. I have wide shoulders. I can take it.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:18 AM (BHl9S)

362 I'm not bragging, but it would take ninety of more tractors to keep my ship from making the Kessel Run in fewer than ninety...

...parsecs?

Screw it.

...minutes!

Hit it, Chewie!

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:18 AM (OQ9R7)

363 "I'm not bragging but he has I think 90 or more tractors."


No, you're not. The average 100hp JD wiil weigh more than than the equivalent Kubota.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 02:20 AM (OkAU/)

364 I'll give you all a very simple example of a totally fictional movie that could easily change someone's life: Contact. The movie is silly and has lots of holes in it, but it's enjoyable and it gives an interesting picture to the detection/pursuit of communication with aliens. A kid could watch that movie and very easily see something that he had never even contemplated, turning his entire life and putting him love with either general astronomy and the stars or with the idea of alien life existing. His entire life could easily be totally altered by that. That is a very simple example that is beyond argument - since we can all understand how someone can see something new and suddenly find that they are entrhralled by the subject.

I'm sure we have all heard of many different examples of this, with people seeing things that opened new worlds up to them. In The Jerk, it was white music on the radio But that sort of circumstance can happen pretty easily. There are so many stories of dancers who caught the bug from a movie, for example.

Star Wars, though it isn't science fiction or anything of the sort, could still kindle a child's romance with the idea of space, thereby setting the direction their life would take. No matter how silly the story might be, one particular portrayal of life in space might connect with them, somehow, and send them on their way.

There really is no reasonable argument that movies and stories can't change someone's life, since there are countless examples of people who have reported exactly that. And it doesn't matter if they are fact or fiction. A fictional war movie could touch a nerve with someone that gets him into the military, changing what he might have thought he would do before.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 02:20 AM (zc3Db)

365 Slap, I at least get the reference.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:21 AM (BHl9S)

366 Fenelon: I was seven when my Grandmother took me to the first Star Wars. I had no idea what I had just seen and my Grandmother, as we exited the theater said:

"I have no idea what the hell we just saw."

She looked at me and didn't want to laugh because she was pissed about spending the money.

When I laughed at her she laughed back!

...and she was NOT a "laugher!"

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:22 AM (OQ9R7)

367 I cannot think of films that changed my life. I can think of films that were intensely moving or scary or that I really enjoyed or thought "That was sheer artistry" or that I'm very thankful to have seen.

I have always been a reader (It's a bit less as I get older, or rather I read the same books over and over) and yes, books have changed my life. in a positive way.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 02:23 AM (qES5k)

368 Primordial, very well said.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:23 AM (BHl9S)

369 I remember going to the first Star Wars Film and I think may have gone to the 2nd one but I can't recall...obviously qualifies as me not being a devotee of the genre.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 02:17 AM

Hope the service went well tonight that you were apprehensive about.

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 02:24 AM (o/90i)

370 I liked "Contact", Primordial! I am in the minority around here, so I'll duck.

*ducks*

"The first rule of government. Why build one when you can build two at twice the cost?"

Art Bell Line: "Wanna Take A Ride"

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:25 AM (OQ9R7)

371 Dog's looking me, gotta out;

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 21, 2015 02:26 AM (OkAU/)

372 East of the Rockies...

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:27 AM (OQ9R7)

373 Fenelon, books have changed me more so than movies. I don't doubt that movies or books could change someone's life path. Inspire them.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:28 AM (BHl9S)

374 Nite time here, long day w/ a flat tire to start.

Be well ya Morons.

Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 02:29 AM (o/90i)

375 R.K's all...

Dog.

Pee.

Door.

Now.

*blip*

G'Night, Amigo.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:29 AM (OQ9R7)

376 I have Christmas stuff to finish tomorrow. I need some rest. Goodnight everyone.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:29 AM (BHl9S)

377 Thanks, CaliGirl.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:25 AM (OQ9R7)

Contact is a guilty pleasure movie for me. There is so much about the story that irks me ... but I really love watching the movie. And John Hurt's character is extra-cool.

It's really a shame they kill it with that silly part at the end, but I usually leave it after she comes back from her journey and remain satisfied with it like that.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 02:29 AM (zc3Db)

378 G'Night, Farmer.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:29 AM (OQ9R7)

379 Hey, can I get a K-1 visa for that Wookie pictured at the bottom?

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at December 21, 2015 02:30 AM (FtrY1)

380 -Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 02:29 AM (zc3Db)

That was the first time I'd heard "Occam's Razor". To the dismay and belittlement of my High School teachers.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:31 AM (OQ9R7)

381 "Hey, can I get a K-1 visa for that Wookie pictured at the bottom?"
-Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at December 21, 2015 02:30 AM (FtrY1)

In this Administration? Can it fog a mirror?

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:32 AM (OQ9R7)

382 Primordial, I liked Contact too. As Mulder would say. I want to believe.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:32 AM (BHl9S)

383 I'm going to go wonky and note that I am impressed with gmail's technical competence. You may or may not know that anything you send to-or-from gmail, including attachments, is examined by Google. If you email your bestie that you'd like a Vegas Vacay, Google Ads will start stuffing everything you see online with ads from Luxor, Excalibur, Paris, or whatever else your online profile suggests may be profitable. That's the Google business-model -- spying on people.


They'll plant cookies from one of their sites that are meant to be picked-up by their other sites to track you across the entire internet.



But there's a reason that Maet, for instance, has a gmail account. They're rabid about showing their work and keeping the competition from datamining you. I just sent two emails from two different tabs logged to the same gmail and got a warning notice. They know their stuff.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 02:33 AM (EzgxV)

384 Or the truth is out there or whatever he said.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 02:33 AM (BHl9S)

385 Posted by: Farmer at December 21, 2015 02:24 AM (o/90i)

How kind of you to ask. :^) Yes, it did; I'm sure the prayers helped. I don't know if the coffee served at the refreshment time was caffeinated, but I think so but now I am wired. ;^)

the fellow who can't stand me (bit whom I had never met before) was there. Fortunately, he had his darling little baby (whom I also hadn't met) so we didn't have to talk about why he's pissed off at me, at God and most other people. And there was a woman on the membership list whomIi also hadn't met who was very dear and I got a chance to pray with her afterwards.

So now, I have no more services I have to officiate at until the beginning of the New Year (unless the lay ministers get sick) and I can just go to on for Christmas Eve or Day where I can just sit at another church Being "on " for 25 years t's good to have break and just sit in the pew I'm hoping I will be able to do that because I think I'm getting the son's cold.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 02:34 AM (qES5k)

386 The China Syndrome changed all of our lives whether we saw it or not.

Posted by: MAx at December 21, 2015 02:35 AM (LAliD)

387 I have never seen "Contact" but it's been highly recommended to me and I really like the acting of John Hurt so i guess i should see it.

I've seen some films quite a few times/ They haven't my life but I enjoy the everythime I have seen them or sometimes get something out of them that I haven't before.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 02:38 AM (qES5k)

388 That was the first time I'd heard "Occam's Razor". To the dismay and belittlement of my High School teachers.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:31 AM (OQ9R7)


Heh.

An excellent example, Slap. I would bet that quite a few people learned about Occam's Razor from that movie. It's interesting, because Occam's Razor is very intuitive and natural - people operate according to that principle without instruction. But that was also one of the problems with the movie that irked me - Occam's Razor is a principle of scientific aesthetics, not a principle of science, itself. I happen to be a believer in it, but it is only that - a belief. Einstein was a big believer in it (and most scientists are) in that they expect an elegant universe. The laws governing it have to be few and they have to be beautiful. Ugly theories are generally rejected based on little more than their ugliness. These rejections have long turned out to be correct, but it's still largely aesthetic considerations.

Anyway ... Contact definitely brought the idea of elegant science to many, many people and might have turned a few lives just from that little point, itself.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 21, 2015 02:40 AM (zc3Db)

389 I had lunch today with a group that included one guy who works on film soundtracks. Apparently John Williams' lawyer writes very good contracts for his services and derivative payments because he mentioned that Williams' personal wealth was somewhere between 800 million and a billion dollars.

I'm assuming it's that crazy 'Lost in Space' money.

Posted by: Epobirs at December 21, 2015 02:40 AM (IdCqF)

390 They haven't my life

Meant "They "Films" haven't changed my life.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 02:44 AM (qES5k)

391 Might your joy allay your illnesses, sweetheart!

Find solace and joy in the peaceful hours of the Holiday, as you take your time to rejoice at your leisure!

As it seems oddly opposed, I would imagine Our Lord taking comfort in your rest In His Name; so as to celebrate His birth.

As you have taken so many days in the faith and name of others, so be your rest and relaxation, having His name carry to to Peace during this season.

Might God Bless you, as He has so many others.

Love and Blessings,

-Slapweasel, "The Douche With the Keyboard".

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:50 AM (OQ9R7)

392 Fiction changed my life. i don't think I would have gone into theatre if I hadn't been immersed in Shakespeare's plays from a young age (because my mother was an English professor. I wouldn't have become a Christian if I hadn't read a fictionalized about of the mistress of John off Gaunt (both were real people) which lead me too another book based on the Massachusetts Bay Colony which lead me to Quakerism which lead me to eventual trajectory into the ministry. Ii read fiction about some religious people before I read about the real people themselves and before I read the bible.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 02:56 AM (qES5k)

393 I saw "The Force Awakens" last Thursday night. I went with most of my direct family....10 people total. Full disclosureL we are all Star Wars geeks, from my 74 year-old Dad to my 9 year-old son. Even the wimmen folk. (An aside: There's a Facebook meme going around around about how Star Wars geeks don;t have sex. One word...Cosplay.Brain bleach available on the left shelf...)

Anyway, to a person, we loved it. Speaking for myself, I was euphoric and drained upon leaving the theater. I know I'm weird, and I know that some people will wonder how someone cam be so involved with a piece of fiction...but it made me feel like a kid again. And in this day and age, that's very f'n rare. No apologies here.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at December 21, 2015 02:57 AM (Y0FCw)

394 ..."Einstein was a big believer in it (and most scientists are) in that they expect an elegant universe."

LOL... the "Unified Theory" is yet to be found.

I loved how a scientist had to finally admit that she "Had Faith" that something she could not prove existed.

No film. No broadcast. Only one witness, (in that case), that felt that love.

Through love and something you can't explain to anyone else, they cannot believe you. Something you witness that you know to be true.

...In your heart because that love is So Great.

Through Faith, I am carried.

Corny films and all! LOL!

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 02:58 AM (OQ9R7)

395 The Las Vegas thing really bothers me. She had a baby in the car. Sudden jihad syndrome?

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 21, 2015 01:40 AM (BHl9S)


Does Nevada still have a firing squad as an option for the death penalty?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2015 02:59 AM (7MWCL)

396 "Does Nevada still have a firing squad as an option for the death penalty?"
-Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2015 02:59 AM (7MWCL)

I not? We send The Political Hat out there with White Zombie, Megadeth, Alice in Chains and Man O' War.

That'll kill roaches, dead.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 03:04 AM (OQ9R7)

397 I wouldn't be nearly where I am politically if it weren't for Heinlein.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 03:07 AM (EzgxV)

398 Thanks, Slap.

You're not a douche. I am not always here late at night, but I think you were missing for a while, correct.? Good to see you back. i don't think anyone here is a douche (I don't like that term). except possibly people who come here who are leftists who don't want to know anyone as a "real" person (as much as that is possible on an internet website) but want to spew their talking points and even those sorts of people may be o.k. in real life, escaped that they'rre leftists. I think there are also people here who get really angry (of course we're all angry about certain things) and possibly lonely who don't put on any filters before they type exactly what they think as if they're some sort of Battle with people they don't know and the keyboard is their weapon of choice. You're not one of excessively angry people. That's good. You seem to enjoy chatting with people here.le

You have a beautful way with prayer, Slap, which people appreciate. You'd be an asset on a prayer line. Some of then require the endorsement of a minister who knows someone personally, but I don't know if they all do. Those prayer lines can be a great thing. While you sometimes get people with obvious mental problems (paranoid etc) you are less likely to get people who use them as a way to masturbate while they talk to you. You do get that on a phone reassurance line. They're just too cheap to use the sex phone line which require a fee . And no, I have never volunteered on one of those (sex phone line)-just the prayer and reassurance phone lines.

Love and blessings to you too, Slap.

Good night now

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 03:13 AM (qES5k)

399 Meant "except" that they're leftists.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 03:13 AM (qES5k)

400 "I wouldn't be nearly where I am politically if it weren't for Heinlein."
-Posted by: cthulhu at December 21, 2015 03:07 AM (EzgxV)

*Here's To Beer!*

*clink*

wait...

Oohhhh...

Heinlein.

*hic*

*Women and cats will do as they please. Men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea.*

*burp*

...okay. Not his best quote.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 03:16 AM (OQ9R7)

401 Just trying to stay awake until the wireliners get their tools to bottom, and I can watch the repeat section being pulled. Then off to bed for me. When they log a well, they usually repeat the bottom 50 meters or so. The curves from all the tools should match well between the two passes; if not, there is something wrong. Used to be, they would print out each pass, and you'd lay one over the other on a light table to check for errors. Now, both passes are displayed in pretty colors on a big monitor, so you see in real time if the curves repeat.


Too much information, I know.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2015 03:16 AM (7MWCL)

402 Women are always driving into holiday crowds in Las Vegas. One killed a whole bunch of people in the 80s. They tend to be mentally ill.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 21, 2015 03:17 AM (iQIUe)

403 G'Night, Fenelon!

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 03:17 AM (OQ9R7)

404 "Now, both passes are displayed in pretty colors on a big monitor, so you see in real time if the curves repeat.
Too much information, I know.
"
-Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2015 03:16 AM (7MWCL)

Like double Doppler Radar!

*cheers!*

*falls over*

*gets up*

I gotta pee.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 03:19 AM (OQ9R7)

405 "Women are always driving into holiday crowds in Las Vegas. One killed a whole bunch of people in the 80s. They tend to be mentally ill."
-Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 21, 2015 03:17 AM (iQIUe)

*spits beer across room*

Where the heck did that come from?!?

*dabs everything*

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 03:21 AM (OQ9R7)

406 Too much information, I know.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2015 03:16 AM (7MWCL)

Actually, it's this kind of unexpected glimpse into interesting things that make AoSHQ so much fun.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2015 03:23 AM (Zu3d9)

407 "Actually, it's this kind of unexpected glimpse into interesting things that make AoSHQ so much fun."
-Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 21, 2015 03:23 AM (Zu3d9)

^Points at CharlieBrown'sDildo.^

(One day, God will ask me about that, I'm quite sure.)

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 03:26 AM (OQ9R7)

408 Too much information, I know.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2015 03:16 AM (7MWCL)

Hey I'm watching them run casing so it could always be worse

Posted by: the real ch3 at December 21, 2015 03:32 AM (F5lCF)

409 (as if I presume to characterize Him) God: "You pointed at the phallic sexual toy as used by a Charles Schultz boy-character as an example of 'what is going right' with the world. Please explain.

Slap: "He said what I was thinking."

...and I was just a wee bit drunk.

...*cough*

...Sir.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 03:33 AM (OQ9R7)

410 Better than the alternate, right?

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 03:36 AM (OQ9R7)

411 Satan: "Do you always hold discussions with yourself?"

Slap: "Why? You wanna hear one?"

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 03:38 AM (OQ9R7)

412 It has come to this.

G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1), T at December 21, 2015 03:39 AM (OQ9R7)

413 Too much information, I know.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2015 03:16 AM (7MWCL)



Hey I'm watching them run casing so it could always be worse

Posted by: the real ch3 at December 21, 2015 03:32 AM (F5lCF)


Watching them work stuck pipe is always crowd-pleaser. Or working a hole that is falling apart. Widespread use of invert mud has sure cut down on the number of days lost due to hole problems here.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2015 03:43 AM (7MWCL)

414 ..."Or working a hole that is falling apart. Widespread use of invert mud has sure cut down on the number of days lost due to hole problems here."
-Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2015 03:43 AM (7MWCL)

You sure talk a lot of shit.

Posted by: The Local Whorehouse for the Elderly and Infirmed at December 21, 2015 03:46 AM (OQ9R7)

415 I have never seen "Contact" but it's been highly
recommended to me and I really like the acting of John Hurt so i guess i
should see it.




Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 21, 2015 02:38 AM


Contact is an enjoyable flick. It's weird... well, Sagan... but, it's done well. It's hardly a fave, but I enjoy watching it whenever it's on. John Hurt is great as always, but it's also got Tom Skerrit, Matthew McConnaghy, Jake Busey, David Morse et al to round out the cast. Watch it, it's interesting.

Posted by: otho at December 21, 2015 03:53 AM (EWg9n)

416 -Posted by: otho at December 21, 2015 03:53 AM (EWg9n)

Jodi Foster.

Jodi Foster!

JODI FOSTER!!!

Posted by: John Hinckley at December 21, 2015 03:54 AM (OQ9R7)

417 Jodie, even!!!

Hey! I'm not in my right mind!

Posted by: John Hinckley at December 21, 2015 03:56 AM (OQ9R7)

418
Man vs Mars (The Martian)
Man vs Fish (In the heart of the sea)
Lesbian vs. Family Court (Carol)
Man's Squeakhole vs Bear (The Revenant)
100 lb Woman vs Delta Force (Sicario)
Nerds vs Nerds (Star Wars Part 6)


Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 21, 2015 04:12 AM (iQIUe)

419 Man, eyelids are getting heavy. Going to go snooze until the loggers wake me up. Night, folks.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 21, 2015 04:20 AM (7MWCL)

420 I really hate night football games that I have to watch, if you do fine just not not mine thank you.
It's morning horde, hopes yours is good.

Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2015 04:24 AM (k0xxN)

421 Gee, I killed the thread.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 21, 2015 04:24 AM (iQIUe)

422 Good morning

Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2015 04:39 AM (uZNvH)

423 Morning.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at December 21, 2015 04:41 AM (IKya9)

424 ha! KC won and Denver lost. KC is just 1 game out of 1st place now!

Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2015 04:42 AM (uZNvH)

425 Bruce you didn't kill the thread it's like this every morning,

Posted by: Skip at December 21, 2015 04:43 AM (k0xxN)

426 What are you all up to this morning

Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2015 04:48 AM (uZNvH)

427 At work on cell.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at December 21, 2015 04:48 AM (IKya9)

428 You work on a cell? Do you work in a prison?

Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2015 04:50 AM (uZNvH)

429 Lol nope. On cell phone. No computer access here.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at December 21, 2015 04:53 AM (IKya9)

430
Forgot one:

Woman vs Retail Shopping (Joy)

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 21, 2015 04:55 AM (iQIUe)

431 speaking of which, i have to mail my christmas cards today
ugh

Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2015 05:01 AM (uZNvH)

432 My only Christmas wish?




Would Jimmah Carter die. Sorry, I am so sick of his ass.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 21, 2015 05:19 AM (jJRIy)

433 RE Kafir killing car....So Trump is gonna ban all women from coming here?

just asking

Posted by: torabora at December 21, 2015 05:21 AM (ncwJ7)

434 My goal is a 200 ship Navy with a transgender crossdressing CNO and a *** at every helm!

Posted by: Admiral Barack Ob+mao at December 21, 2015 05:27 AM (ncwJ7)

435 Well all the news is Panther's 14-0 and some asshole who plays for the Giants is going to get suspended.



Posted by: Nip Sip at December 21, 2015 05:33 AM (jJRIy)

436 ha! Panthers still undefeated? And it looks like they might finish undefeated too, wow

Posted by: chemjeff at December 21, 2015 05:40 AM (uZNvH)

437 Well, woke up to some snow this am.

Posted by: Infidel at December 21, 2015 06:01 AM (gHQSg)

438 Morning, Peeps.

Posted by: fluffy at December 21, 2015 06:03 AM (AfsKp)

439 Dear Monday

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/selection-du-weekend-171-53.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 06:08 AM (nGyiN)

440 The LCS, by all honest accounts, is a dog. And, as Salamander says, for those of us who have been paying attention... it's been a known dog since the drawing board. No significant punch in any dimension. No ASW, ASuW, or AAW of any consequence. The modules are a joke. The platforms are a joke - two different hulls?

It would be an embarrassment if it weren't true.

For a navy with a long history of excellence, this is humiliating. Salamander's article is spot-on.

Posted by: RobM1981 at December 21, 2015 06:09 AM (zurJC)

441 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:11 AM (ptqRm)

442 Sal, and the front porch gang are a daily "Must Read" for anyone with a touch of salt water in their veins.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:13 AM (ptqRm)

443 VIA

Looks like the rest of the horde is still asleep.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 21, 2015 06:16 AM (jJRIy)

444 "Looks like the rest of the horde is still asleep."


Yeh, ain't that the truth.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:19 AM (ptqRm)

445 I am in a very fowl mood.



Holidays can wear you out

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 21, 2015 06:21 AM (jJRIy)

446 What is Sal, and the front porch gang?

Posted by: Infidel at December 21, 2015 06:22 AM (gHQSg)

447 Star Wars seems to have grossed worldwide $517 million opening weekend.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 06:24 AM (nGyiN)

448 Fowl mood?

Have some ice cream.
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/selection-du-weekend-171-11.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 06:26 AM (nGyiN)

449 Sal is CDR Salamander, retired Navy 0-5, and just like we are referred to as the Moron Horde, his commenters are known informally as the Front Porch gang.




http://tinyurl.com/2ky97e

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:26 AM (ptqRm)

450 So we went down to see the lights at B'More's 34th street block last night.


http://tinyurl.com/pu3h3pu

Nice quick dinner at Grano's Pasta Bar, then a walk along the block looking at the lights.

Almost continuous police helo presence in vicinity, if not directly overhead.

Carolers walking the community singing as well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:29 AM (ptqRm)

451 >>> Holidays can wear you out

You're telling ME?

Posted by: the Chicken at December 21, 2015 06:29 AM (AfsKp)

452 "You're telling ME?"

Word

Posted by: The Couch at December 21, 2015 06:31 AM (ptqRm)

453 You're telling ME?"


Tis the Season..

Posted by: The Toaster at December 21, 2015 06:32 AM (ptqRm)

454 "What if Episode I was good" is the yin to the yang of Mr. Plinkett. Focused on solutions, proposing a movie I want to see. They're not as long but they are very thoughtfully put together.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 21, 2015 06:33 AM (VdICR)

455 The Stupid is strong in some people. Baby boy given Jedi as middle name.

http://wwlp.com/2015/12/19/baby-born-in-mass-named-jedi-in-honor-of-star-wars/

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 06:34 AM (nGyiN)

456 Pretty interesting VIA.

Posted by: Infidel at December 21, 2015 06:37 AM (gHQSg)

457 Baby boy given Jedi as middle name. Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 06:34 AM

It got the parents lots o' publicity.

Teevee news in Boston was all over this, with newscasters ooohing and cooing and ahh-ing about Adorable Baby Jedi. Which of course gave them more opportunity to babble incoherently about the movie....

Not sure this is any worse than naming the kid LaQuandra, or Alopecia. Coulda been "Mohammed," you know.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 21, 2015 06:39 AM (z/vax)

458 Morning all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 06:43 AM (gf8BH)

459 "Pretty interesting VIA."

It's a local B'More thing, but really is a festive time for the area.

My understanding is that the particular block has binding restrictions which require any new homeowner to continue the tradition of the lights.


It's also the same area where "Cafe Hon" from cooking show fame is located.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:46 AM (ptqRm)

460 "Morning all "

And a might fine Navy day it is.


Coffee?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:47 AM (ptqRm)

461 I was referring to Sal and the gang, but the lights are cool too.

Posted by: Infidel at December 21, 2015 06:48 AM (gHQSg)

462 So next year. I am thinking I am going to bug out. Belize?



Posted by: Nip Sip at December 21, 2015 06:49 AM (jJRIy)

463 I can just imagine that kid in later years, once his peers hear his mother yell "Ryker Jedi get over here!" one time, will hate like a Sith Lord everything Star Wars.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 06:49 AM (nGyiN)

464 "I was referring to Sal and the gang,"

Ah.....oops.


I love his mission statement at the masthead.

Total mishmash of buzzwords and tricky phrases which tend to appear in FitRep narratives.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:50 AM (ptqRm)

465 Belize is beautiful.

Posted by: Infidel at December 21, 2015 06:50 AM (gHQSg)

466 Three million dollars and this island in Belize could be yours.

http://www.privateislandsonline.com/islands/montego-caye

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 06:52 AM (nGyiN)

467 462
So next year. I am thinking I am going to bug out. Belize?


Posted by: Nip Sip at December 21, 2015 06:49 AM (jJRIy)


It's on my short list of places. If we get an Establishment candidate, or if Hillary wins, it's time to GTFO.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 21, 2015 06:52 AM (J+mig)

468 "Morning all "

And a might fine Navy day it is.


Coffee?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:47 AM (ptqRm)


Yeah way ahead of ya....Already dropped the family off at the Airport and I am in my Officer

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 06:52 AM (gf8BH)

469 "nd I am in my Officer"

Well...alrighty then.


J/K

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:53 AM (ptqRm)

470 I am in my Officer

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 06:52 AM (gf8BH)


Do you normally text while you're doing that?

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 21, 2015 06:55 AM (J+mig)

471 Yeah way ahead of ya....Already dropped the family off at the Airport and I am in my Officer
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 21, 2015 06:52 AM (gf8BH) Say what you will about the Air Force, seems like the Navy is now light years ahead in fringe benefits.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at December 21, 2015 06:56 AM (22uju)

472 @432 Nip Sip


"My only Christmas wish? Would Jimmah Carter die. Sorry, I am so sick of his ass."

Soon.

Posted by: The Reaper at December 21, 2015 06:56 AM (XgfBI)

473 I know the horde will not be surprised. I have DRIVEN to Belize.




Posted by: Nip Sip at December 21, 2015 06:57 AM (jJRIy)

474 Someone needs more coffee.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 21, 2015 06:57 AM (nGyiN)

475 Le NOOD, Arriving.


Track Two.


Stand clear, please.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 06:59 AM (ptqRm)

476 <Looks around nervously for Nevergiveup>

Posted by: Officer at December 21, 2015 07:00 AM (22uju)

477

He's behind you.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 21, 2015 07:01 AM (ptqRm)

478 The grandson's went to see it, the 14 year old said, "Well, it was alright" the 9 year old said, "it lasted for ever paw Paw it wouldn't ever just end!"
The consensus was, it was way to long a time to spend watching a movie.
And they would have found a better time doing something else.


Posted by: obsidian at December 21, 2015 10:35 AM (ARK2U)

479
Re: the LCS- "Littoral" means "near shore". In WWII we had an EXCELLENT "littoral combat vessel". It was called a PT BOAT.

Posted by: DENNIS SKEA at December 21, 2015 04:12 PM (McHeU)

480 send Triumph the Dog to Oberlin Yale Mizzou......RIDICULE !!
It's our only hope...

Posted by: qmark at December 21, 2015 07:20 PM (wkUEj)

(Jump to top of page)






Processing 0.06, elapsed 0.0614 seconds.
14 queries taking 0.0101 seconds, 488 records returned.
Page size 276 kb.
Powered by Minx 0.7 alpha.



MuNuvians
MeeNuvians
Polls! Polls! Polls!
Frequently Asked Questions
The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
Top Top Tens
Greatest Hitjobs

The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat