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Morning Thread (12-18-2015)
Last Friday before Christmas. Make it a good one.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: JimK at December 18, 2015 07:00 AM (FmJ1+)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 18, 2015 07:01 AM (HSmrB)
DAY 1,134
326 to go (399 to Inauguration Day )
Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, Mao-suits, McCain's, McConnell's, Mahdi megatons, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, McKesson's, Mizzou malefactors, mewling mattress-myth manufacturers, marriage maimers, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Myrmidons, Mugwumps, Monrovian microbes, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microaggressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:01 AM (uRmWf)
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at December 18, 2015 07:01 AM (7RXcs)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 18, 2015 07:01 AM (ptqRm)
Dis-Content!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:02 AM (uRmWf)
Posted by: Bruce at December 18, 2015 07:02 AM (8ikIW)
Posted by: Rino sanctuary at December 18, 2015 07:02 AM (5kAKB)
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 07:02 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: V the K at December 18, 2015 07:02 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: mindful webworker - no, really! at December 18, 2015 07:03 AM (/B6Iw)
Posted by: mindful webworker - no, really!
Can you take it to school in a metal box?
Posted by: Bruce at December 18, 2015 07:03 AM (8ikIW)
Allen West was on Levin last night. What a class act and a leader. Too bad he's not running.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:04 AM (uRmWf)
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 18, 2015 07:04 AM (ykopX)
Posted by: Tim in Illinios Old and Unimproved but reduced in Price. at December 18, 2015 07:04 AM (WVsWD)
Posted by: Bruce at December 18, 2015 07:03 AM (8ikIW)
I'd like to take Achmed's daddy to the infernal reaches, boxed or unboxed.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:05 AM (uRmWf)
Is that hope
Which tenaciously clings
To the hearts of the faithful
And announces
In the face
Of any Herod the world can produce
And all the inn doors slammed in our faces
And all the dark nights of our souls
That with God
All things are possible,
That even now
Unto us
A child is born!
Ann Weems
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:05 AM (qES5k)
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 18, 2015 07:04 AM (ykopX)
Like the sauce, "it's in there!"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:05 AM (uRmWf)
Posted by: joncelli at December 18, 2015 07:05 AM (1fBA7)
Posted by: JimK at December 18, 2015 07:05 AM (FmJ1+)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2015 07:06 AM (jEFso)
Achmed, you stay out of my dresser drawer, you little scamp!!!
(Slightly not SFW, due to sexual use of item)
http://tinyurl.com/gmhj8ns
Posted by: ClockBoys Mother at December 18, 2015 07:07 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:04 AM
Dude seems to have dropped out of sight for the most part. Wonder why?
Seems a waste for him to be spending time blogging and doing occasional interviews. Especially when organisms like Heb! are trying to break into the Big Time.
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 18, 2015 07:07 AM (ykopX)
Man Batman would make a great president wouldn't he?
Posted by: freaked at December 18, 2015 07:07 AM (BO/km)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (rock salt and fire-hook at the ready !) at December 18, 2015 07:08 AM (erRNA)
Posted by: freaked at December 18, 2015 07:08 AM (BO/km)
Shooting down that Russian plane isn't looking like a good idea much is it now, erdo baby?
Posted by: Tim in Illinios Old and Unimproved but reduced in Price. at December 18, 2015 07:08 AM (WVsWD)
Surely some of you folks can contribute something amusing as to how Obama will deliver his last SOTU in an non traditional way. ;^). I bet MWW could do a funny photoshop too.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:08 AM (qES5k)
2 dead 4 shot A little light, but with holidays almost here, might kick it up a notch........425/2456
Posted by: Colin at December 18, 2015 07:09 AM (T3Tpd)
Posted by: no good deed at December 18, 2015 07:10 AM (GgxVX)
That is good of you to do that.
I have heard a number of people say that their life often consists of driving others to various doctor appointments.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:11 AM (qES5k)
Not in a per capita race they can't.
Chicago would need almost 1,300 dead to match B'mores numbers.
Winning!!
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 18, 2015 07:11 AM (ptqRm)
Scoot his bare ass across the resolute desk after a night of Reggie Loving?
Posted by: Bruce at December 18, 2015 07:11 AM (8ikIW)
Well there is a Moron meet up tonight in the City so I sure as hell will try....Hey anyone got bail money just in case
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 07:12 AM (gf8BH)
Allen West. Adam West. Either one would be better by leagues than what we got.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2015 07:12 AM (jEFso)
Maybe he will finally come out and tell us what he really thinks of us. Probably will just come out.
Posted by: freaked at December 18, 2015 07:12 AM (BO/km)
amusing as to how Obama will deliver his last SOTU in an non
traditional way. ;^).
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:08 AM
The mere fact that Choom Boy has even done a single SotU is such an incredible buzzkill that I consider attempts to find humor in it a total waste.
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 18, 2015 07:13 AM (ykopX)
Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes.
A story today, though not from me. Courtesy of blogger, screenwriter and patriot Robert J. Avrech, David Niven, Ginger Rogers and the Battle of the Bulge:
http://goo.gl/rM54SE
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 18, 2015 07:13 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2015 07:13 AM (jEFso)
Posted by: no good deed
Of course we can absorb it. Lotsa people can get killed before they get to him. And if not, he'll just import some more.
Posted by: Bruce at December 18, 2015 07:14 AM (8ikIW)
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 18, 2015 07:07 AM (ykopX)
Heads up a conservative think tank in Dallas. I think he got pissed about getting screwed over by the GOP-e in his last election. Hopefully he's planning a comeback.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:14 AM (uRmWf)
Non traditional?
On Time
No usage of the word "I"
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 18, 2015 07:14 AM (ptqRm)
Have a good time; I have church related things to do
tonight and tomorrow evening (and Sunday too). Please tell CBD to please schedule your gathering in May so that maybe I can attend once.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:14 AM (qES5k)
Posted by: JimK at December 18, 2015 07:14 AM (FmJ1+)
No use of the word I would not only be non traditional; It would be a historic first!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:15 AM (qES5k)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:15 AM (uRmWf)
Posted by: Bruce at December 18, 2015 07:16 AM (8ikIW)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 18, 2015 07:16 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 07:12 AM
~~~
I had hoped to make this meet up, but my son's leave was finally approved and he'll be coming home! Sorry that I won't meet the 'rons and 'ettes as I'd hoped, but thrilled to have my youngest home for Christmas. :-)
Posted by: IrishEi at December 18, 2015 07:17 AM (E6RIJ)
I don't know; I have to try to find humor wherever I can. If it were not for my faith and a sense of humor I'd be in the asylum with too much news overload.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:18 AM (qES5k)
Posted by: freaked at December 18, 2015 07:18 AM (BO/km)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:15 AM (uRmWf)
Does that mean all the drinks are on you?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 07:18 AM (gf8BH)
Posted by: antisocialist at December 18, 2015 07:18 AM (cDs+4)
LOL. I thought he'd be dressed as Darth Vader.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:19 AM (qES5k)
Posted by: IrishEi at December 18, 2015 07:17 AM (E6RIJ)
maybe next time...Leave from what branch?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 07:19 AM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 18, 2015 07:20 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: joncelli at December 18, 2015 07:20 AM (1fBA7)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 07:18 AM (gf8BH)
Close. All the drinks are IN me.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:20 AM (uRmWf)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2015 07:21 AM (jEFso)
NY/NJ Moron Meet Up esta noche.
Have a grand time, J.J. Wish I could be there.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 18, 2015 07:20 AM (X6fMO)
Click your heels three times and say . . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:21 AM (uRmWf)
Air Force. He's in Germany now, but heading to Jordan soon. :-(
Posted by: IrishEi at December 18, 2015 07:22 AM (E6RIJ)
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 07:22 AM (MQEz6)
That would be great! Like those ones on Thunderbirds.
Posted by: freaked at December 18, 2015 07:23 AM (BO/km)
Who will the puppets be? We know one-"Mean old conservative" who gets bashed over the head with a stick. Obama's version of Punch and Judy
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:23 AM (qES5k)
Posted by: Evil Otto at December 18, 2015 07:23 AM (6eVVe)
Posted by: IrishEi at December 18, 2015 07:22 AM (E6RIJ)
Ah OK..well wish him well. Just got back from Andrews AFB...Nice berthing.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 07:24 AM (gf8BH)
Next time. And tell the kid if he gets an order to shoot down Israeli jets heading east that they should retransmit. Garbled in transmission.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:24 AM (uRmWf)
https://youtu.be/A51gkF7eu_A
Posted by: V the K at December 18, 2015 07:24 AM (O7MnT)
amusing as to how Obama will deliver his last SOTU in an non
traditional way. ;^).
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:08 AM
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He'll have a mime do it. And it'll be the best one ever.
Posted by: antisocialist at December 18, 2015 07:24 AM (cDs+4)
Posted by: freaked at December 18, 2015 07:23 AM (BO/km)
Team America.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:24 AM (uRmWf)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2015 07:25 AM (jEFso)
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 07:22 AM
That would make me smile!
But I'd settle for a couple of cops walking up to the podium during his speech and slapping him in cuffs. And Mirandizing him, of course.
But it wouldn't surprise me if he delivered the next one from Mecca.
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 18, 2015 07:26 AM (ykopX)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 18, 2015 07:26 AM (+XOzJ)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 18, 2015 07:26 AM (ptqRm)
The Omnibus spending bill in Congress is over 2,000 pages and spends another $1.1 trillion we dont have. A handful of members of Congress and their staffs, the White House and insider lobbyists wrote it over the past six weeks, and outside this small circle, no one had seen it until Wednesday.
In other words, business-as-usual in Washington again. Merry Christmas, Donald Trump.
Americans are sick and tired of the way Washington operates. Outsiders like Trump, Cruz, Carson and Paul are polling at two-thirds of the Republican presidential primary voters. Regardless of how reliable you believe the polling is, there is no doubt: Republicans voters are looking to change the Washington status quo.
In 2014, Americans entrusted Republicans with Senate and House majorities to stop the Obama agenda, but Republicans refused to get in the drivers seat of Congress. Instead, they offer this back-room, bloated bill to hike spending by another $50 Billion. It is strongly supported by Obama, Pelosi, and Reid and strongly opposed by nearly every major segment of the Republican Party.
Well the RINO and SHILLs are for it...But yup if anyone wants to know why Trump is doing so well, I give you the POS BUDGET
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 07:26 AM (gf8BH)
Should be an interesting SOTU vis a vis SCOTUS. Especially after Scalia was blood-libeled about affirmative action. Now that hits close to home with you-know-who.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:26 AM (uRmWf)
That's good. It is also funny to imagine Obama in clown makeup doing the mime himself.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:26 AM (qES5k)
I was going to say that JJ but I have a hard time imagining BO saying "America! F' Yea!"
It would be more like "America! F' Ya!"
Posted by: freaked at December 18, 2015 07:27 AM (BO/km)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2015 07:28 AM (Yllyl)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:28 AM (uRmWf)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 07:26 AM
Ryan, Boner and Choom Boy are all campaigning hard for Teh Donald.
So, too, are all the TDS folks.
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 18, 2015 07:28 AM (ykopX)
Posted by: V the K at December 18, 2015 07:28 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:26 AM (qES5k)
He's already in clown makeup.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:29 AM (uRmWf)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 18, 2015 07:29 AM (+XOzJ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:26 AM (qES5k)
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Especially since I've been imagining Obama in clown makeup pretty much every time he's opened his mouth since 2008.
Posted by: antisocialist at December 18, 2015 07:29 AM (cDs+4)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2015 07:30 AM (jEFso)
Posted by: V the K at December 18, 2015 07:30 AM (O7MnT)
If Trump is smart enough to scream about the budget rape as loudly as the border wall and Muzzy exclusion, he'll sew this thing up by Christmas so tight that Roman Polanski would want to hit it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:30 AM (uRmWf)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2015 07:30 AM (Yllyl)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:30 AM (qES5k)
amusing as to how Obama will deliver his last SOTU in an non
traditional way. ;^).
In Arabic?
Posted by: The Horta at December 18, 2015 07:31 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 07:31 AM (gf8BH)
Too much to hope it involves ritual seppuku, I suppose.
Posted by: mindful webworker - alas, that takes guts at December 18, 2015 07:31 AM (/B6Iw)
Too much to hope it involves ritual seppuku, I suppose.
Posted by: mindful webworker - alas, that takes guts at December 18, 2015 07:31 AM (/B6Iw)
OK my first smile of the AMPosted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 07:32 AM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 07:31 AM (gf8BH)
Good call, NGU! That was Fabrizio. And that was a deleted scene that was only included in the NBC "Godfather" special from 77 or 78, IIRC.
"Take me to America, GI!"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:32 AM (uRmWf)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2015 07:33 AM (jEFso)
Surely some of you folks can contribute something
amusing as to how Obama will deliver his last SOTU in an non
traditional way. ;^).
Interpretive dance.
*mic drop*
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 18, 2015 07:33 AM (LUgeY)
Nice. Way better than my "If Ethan Couch had gotten drunk and committed vehicular homicide in Massachusetts he'd be a senator" attempt.
Posted by: V the K at December 18, 2015 07:34 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:34 AM (uRmWf)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:34 AM (qES5k)
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at December 18, 2015 07:34 AM (I0sxh)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:35 AM (qES5k)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 18, 2015 07:35 AM (+XOzJ)
Say what you will about SCOAMF, he is where he is and we are where we are.
That is a tragedy of epic proportions that will take decades to make right, if at all.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:35 AM (uRmWf)
Well, that's changed my Outlook on things.
Since I have nothing, I'm going to sit back and take Notes.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2015 07:36 AM (Yllyl)
Unfortunately, seppuku involves things such as honor and shame. Two things not possessed by our current White House squatter.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2015 07:36 AM (jEFso)
Merry Christmas to all.
And to you and all the members of the Tribe. Thanks.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 18, 2015 07:37 AM (LUgeY)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 18, 2015 07:37 AM (+XOzJ)
Merry Christmas to all.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:34 AM (uRmWf)
DITTO
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 07:38 AM (gf8BH)
Yeah, that was the last MS program I could think of too. I was hoping no would could think of any more.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2015 07:38 AM (jEFso)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 18, 2015 07:38 AM (1ijHg)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:39 AM (qES5k)
_______________________________________________________
30
Well, my blood pressure is spiked for the day. Guess I can pour out my
coffee. It seems the President didn't appreciate the anxiety after San
Bernardino because he didn't watch enough cable news. Sure, a terror
attack on US soil is no big deal. We can absorb it. That should tell you
all you need to know about him. http://tinyurl.com/ptg8o3s
Posted by: no good deed at December 18, 2015 07:10 AM (GgxVX)
Posted by: Pyrocles at December 18, 2015 07:39 AM (MYMcU)
If Trump is smart enough to scream about the budget rape as loudly as the border wall and Muzzy exclusion, he'll sew this thing up by Christmas so tight that Roman Polanski would want to hit it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:30 AM (uRmWf)
Lead story now at Breitbart. I think Trump is trolling me!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:40 AM (uRmWf)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2015 07:41 AM (jEFso)
Yes, we say that all the time, Every day, All day long. I prefer to think about him right now in a grass skirt and lei doing some stupid dance ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:41 AM (qES5k)
Thanks, guys.
~~~
Probably related to a dream that I can't remember, but I woke up this morning thinking that the reason Congress doesn't impeach or even challenge TFG is not because he's black, but because they fear his Narcissistic Rage. As POTUS, there is almost no limit to what hell he could unleash. It's likely that some of what he has already done represents NR rather than ideology.
Posted by: IrishEi at December 18, 2015 07:41 AM (E6RIJ)
Posted by: FCF at December 18, 2015 07:42 AM (kejii)
Don't I know it.
Posted by: H. Reid at December 18, 2015 07:43 AM (jEFso)
_________________________________________________________
92
So they arrest a terrorist in a Rochester Pizzaria? Hum, what's with
Upstate NY...I will remind you that Appalona's killer was hiding out in a
Pizzaria in Buffalo NY if memory serves...well until Michael found him
and sent him a message
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 07:31 AM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Pyrocles at December 18, 2015 07:43 AM (MYMcU)
A. Some stupid shit climate change thing.
B. Some stupid shit gun control thing.
C. Both.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 18, 2015 07:43 AM (659DL)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:34 AM (qES5k)
That's why Leftist governments always ban criticizing the government. Because the government is simply an extension of their own narcissism, and therefore all mockery directed at it is personal. They can't stand it.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 18, 2015 07:44 AM (J+mig)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2015 07:41 AM (jEFso)
That's kind of why I never type Hanukkah. For some reason I am always wanting to put a "C" in front.
???
Posted by: Tim in Illinios Old and Unimproved but reduced in Price. at December 18, 2015 07:44 AM (WVsWD)
Don't forget the bra made of halved coconuts.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2015 07:44 AM (jEFso)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 18, 2015 07:45 AM (PwmMm)
Merry Christmas to all.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:34 AM (uRmWf)
DITTO
Posted by: Nevergiveup
Thank you. And a Happy Hanukkah to you, JJ, & that anti-semite CBD and the rest of the horde Tribe. (I know it ended on the 14th & I'm late)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2015 07:45 AM (Yllyl)
For the benefit of us non-Tribe, is it "C"hanukkah?
I've seen both.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2015 07:46 AM (jEFso)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 18, 2015 07:45 AM (PwmMm)
Vaya con carne! Wait, is that right?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 07:47 AM (uRmWf)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 18, 2015 07:45 AM (PwmMm)
Vaya con carne! Wait, is that right?
Si! hasta luigi!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2015 07:48 AM (Yllyl)
So I am right. That doesn't happen to often.
Posted by: Tim in Illinios Old and Unimproved but reduced in Price. at December 18, 2015 07:49 AM (WVsWD)
Didn't Ace threaten ban someone for using the "C" word?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 07:50 AM (gf8BH)
"The body can be confined, but nothing can destroy the deepest freedom in man, the freedom of the soul, and the freedom of mind and will. These are the highest and noblest faculties in man, they are what make him the sort of man he is, and they cannot be constrained. Even in prison a man retains his free will, his freedom of choice. Even in prison, a man can choose to do good or evil, to fight for survival or to despair... (pg 156)."
From "He Leadeth Me" by Fr. Walter Ciszek an American-Imprisoned in Lubyanka and the gulags for years. He's one of the people being considered for Sainthood and in my heretical way ;^) I ask to pray to God for protection for our country
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:50 AM (qES5k)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:51 AM (qES5k)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:53 AM (qES5k)
Woke up this morning with Achmed the Light Saber Boy begging to be written. But, I could've gone back to sleep except for the yowling cat, wandering around, begging to be let out. Want to break him of this bad early morning habit, so I had to get up and chase him down.
By this point, lights on, stalking yowler with the spray bottle. all the other critters anxiously think it's time for me to let them out and/or feed them, standing by the door or standing by their food bowls, depending on where in the house I walk.
I'm disappointing them all by sitting here drinking coffee and ignoring their demands.
Posted by: mindful webworker - silencers are golden at December 18, 2015 07:54 AM (/B6Iw)
"Non-traditional" State of the Union address?
A. Some stupid shit climate change thing.
B. Some stupid shit gun control thing.
C. Both.
.
.
.I suspect he is going to drop yet another hollow EO on gun control.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 18, 2015 07:54 AM (iONHu)
I'm sorry, Fenelon, the invoking of actual totalitarian tyranny is harshing the mellow of those who imagine totalitarian tyranny in names, mathematics, and breakfast choices.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 18, 2015 07:55 AM (659DL)
C. Both.
.
.
.I suspect he is going to drop yet another hollow EO on gun control.
Universal background checks on all federal park service property for gun sales.
Tightening up background checks!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2015 07:56 AM (Yllyl)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 18, 2015 07:58 AM (ZQfW9)
No more National Park Service Loophole...???
Damn.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2015 07:58 AM (jEFso)
"Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion!
Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem!
Behold, your King is coming to you;
He is just and having salvation,
Lowly and riding on a donkey,
On a colt, the foal of a donkey."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNt1Qj4MA6M
Renee Fleming sings "Rejoice Greatly" from Handel's Messiah
Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 18, 2015 08:01 AM (dFi94)
amusing as to how Obama will deliver his last SOTU in an non traditional way."
After this, the SOTU will just be called the Presidential Le Petomane.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 18, 2015 08:01 AM (u5gzz)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 07:51 AM
~~~
Yikes. I was kinda hoping you guys would tell me I'm nuts.
Posted by: IrishEi at December 18, 2015 08:02 AM (E6RIJ)
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at December 18, 2015 08:03 AM (jN+3o)
Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 18, 2015 08:04 AM (dFi94)
The expressions "silver bullet," "pull the trigger," "shoot from the hip and "under the gun" are used in everyday language across our campus, and commonly even by those in leadership positions. I hear these and similar terms at least once a week, if not once a day. It always makes me cringe.
I cannot help but reflect on the pain and suffering inflicted on so many in our country and around the world by violence involving guns and bullets.
http://moonbattery.com/?p=66549
Posted by: mindful webworker - trigger warning! at December 18, 2015 08:04 AM (/B6Iw)
He will do a video SOTU, from Hawai'i
He is not going to bother coming back to DC after Christmas.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 18, 2015 08:04 AM (1ijHg)
Posted by: no good deed at December 18, 2015 08:04 AM (GgxVX)
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 08:04 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 18, 2015 08:05 AM (2Ocf1)
Posted by: blaster at December 18, 2015 08:05 AM (2Ocf1)
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 08:05 AM (MQEz6)
I'm imagining an address by satellite rather than in person. A huge screen above the podium, looking down on the lowly minions who have disappointed him. Shades of Orwell.
Posted by: mustbequantum at December 18, 2015 08:07 AM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2015 08:08 AM (jEFso)
but I woke up this morning thinking that the reason Congress doesn't
impeach or even challenge TFG is not because he's black, but because
they fear his Narcissistic Rage. As POTUS, there is almost no limit to
what hell he could unleash. It's likely that some of what he has already
done represents NR rather than ideology.
Posted by: IrishEi at December 18, 2015 07:41 AM (E6RIJ)
I think you're right also. We're dealing with a man whose social development (and as well as that of his Administration's top officers) obviously stopped at the high school level, who's extremely vindictive about pursuing his political enemies. I would not be surprised, once this Administration's records are opened, if we did not find out that they were conspiring to use the threat of IRS audits (and other roto-rooter investigations of our not-so-saintly Congressmen) to compel votes.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 18, 2015 08:08 AM (J+mig)
amusing as to how Obama will deliver his last SOTU in an non traditional way."
In an orange jumpsuit with with hands handcuffed behind his back?
Posted by: dogfish at December 18, 2015 08:08 AM (0O2Lr)
Could that we'd be that lucky.....
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2015 08:08 AM (jEFso)
I sort of have the Christmas spirit still (sort of), but I have zero Star Wars spirit.
So, screw that movie, maybe I'll rent it. Or maybe I won't.
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 18, 2015 08:09 AM (kZVsz)
Posted by: Hillary! at December 18, 2015 08:09 AM (OLNwX)
Posted by: mustbequantum at December 18, 2015 08:09 AM (MIKMs)
http://youtu.be/995Dvj7LiHI
Posted by: mindful webworker - pants up, don't... aw, shoot! at December 18, 2015 08:09 AM (/B6Iw)
Posted by: V the K at December 18, 2015 08:10 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2015 08:10 AM (Yllyl)
"Argentina's Finance Minister Alfonso Prat Gay said on Thursday that the first day in the market without the dollar restrictions imposed by the previous administration, had been positive and as they had planned or expected. Compared to the previous multi-tier system, the dollar appreciated in the range of 25% against the Peso in the unified market."
http://preview.tinyurl.com/nrcerhd
(note: The Argentine Central bank sold USDollars at a fixed rate, however black-market dollars were sold on the street, pretty much openly. To the extent that they were called the "blue dollar" rate, and the current "blue" market price was listed in the major Argentine news sites and the up-to-the-minute price was available on smart phone app tickers.)
Posted by: Kindltot at December 18, 2015 08:13 AM (q2o38)
That show was an embarrassment.
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 18, 2015 08:13 AM (kZVsz)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 18, 2015 08:13 AM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 18, 2015 08:13 AM (LXJ1e)
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How is this possible? Did Enrique work with the nutless shitbag and his whore slut wife?
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 18, 2015 08:14 AM (fWAjv)
records are opened, if we did not find out that they were conspiring to
use the threat of IRS audits (and other roto-rooter investigations of
our not-so-saintly Congressmen) to compel votes.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 18, 2015 08:08 AM
~~~
I'm sure that is happening now as well. What worries me most is something more "global."
Posted by: IrishEi at December 18, 2015 08:14 AM (E6RIJ)
* Chuckle *
Blazing Cat Fur
http://bit.ly/22djAsK
Posted by: mindful webworker - backlash bonanza at December 18, 2015 08:15 AM (/B6Iw)
How is that even possible...CGI?
Posted by: t-bird at December 18, 2015 08:16 AM (OLNwX)
Posted by: Wyatt at December 18, 2015 08:16 AM (kFnmp)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 18, 2015 08:04 AM
~~~
Best. Christmas. Present. Ever!
Posted by: IrishEi at December 18, 2015 08:16 AM (E6RIJ)
I just came across a joke:
A man walks into a bar and sees Ted Cruz and Donald Trump sitting at a table. He walks over to them and says, "Mr. Cruz! Mr. Trump! I'm honored to meet you! But why are you sitting here?"
Cruz answers, "We're planning World War III."
"Really?" the man responds. "What are you going to do?"
"We're gonna bomb forty million Muslims and one blonde with yuuuge breasts," says Teh Donald.
"A blonde with huge breasts? Why bomb her?" the man asks.
Trump turns to Cruz. "See? I told you nobody gives a damn about forty million Muslims."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 18, 2015 08:16 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: IrishEi at December 18, 2015 08:14 AM (E6RIJ)
That also would not surprise me at this point.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 18, 2015 08:16 AM (J+mig)
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 18, 2015 08:17 AM (kZVsz)
We had to fire on our citizens to show our tolerance.
Posted by: Die Polizei at December 18, 2015 08:18 AM (OLNwX)
Posted by: mindful webworker - no-o-o, not the yuuge beewbs at December 18, 2015 08:18 AM (/B6Iw)
* Chuckle *
Blazing Cat Fur
http://bit.ly/22djAsK Posted by: mindful webworker - backlash bonanza at December 18, 2015 08:15 AM (/B6Iw)
I wonder how much longer it'll be before they discover tar and feathers. If I was in the futures market, I think I might have to invest heavily in both... there's going to be a lot more demand in the not-distant future.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 18, 2015 08:20 AM (J+mig)
Link is to his facebook page http://preview.tinyurl.com/hqdod53
Posted by: FCF at December 18, 2015 08:21 AM (kejii)
It ain't easy going at it at 110% all the time.
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 08:21 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (rock salt and fire-hook at the ready !) at December 18, 2015 08:21 AM (erRNA)
Jesus is not finished yet. He is still looking for people who dare to trust him. He is still looking for people who will not allow fear to have the final word. He is still looking for people who refuse to be deterred by failure. He is still passing by. And this life is your only opportunity to answer his call.
No; I know the comment about Jesus has no meaning for conservatives here who are not Christian or not people of religious faith. It was the quote for my birthday yesterday (I suddenly found that calendar after it being lost for a while which seemed providential) and because I get afraid sometimes and need to hear it. Maybe someone else here does too. "Be not afraid" is mentioned many times in the Bible-both in the Hebrew and Christian scriptures and the psalms are often words of encouragement-to not fear and to press on.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 08:21 AM (qES5k)
That's what I think of when Obama tells us there's no credible terrorism threat... before jetting off to Hawaii.
Posted by: mindful webworker - nothing to see here, move along at December 18, 2015 08:21 AM (/B6Iw)
And, the beatings will continue until....
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 18, 2015 08:22 AM (jEFso)
The Dutch starting the counter jihad. Wouldn't that make them "Crusaders"
bastards........
Posted by: Tim in Illinios Old and Unimproved but reduced in Price. at December 18, 2015 08:22 AM (WVsWD)
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 18, 2015 08:23 AM (kZVsz)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 18, 2015 08:24 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 08:25 AM (MQEz6)
http://bit.ly/horned-beast
Hillary Assures Supporters TWICE IN ONE DAY She Does Not Have Horns
Talk about "methinks she doth protest too much"!!
Posted by: mindful webworker - she files them down daily at December 18, 2015 08:27 AM (/B6Iw)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at December 18, 2015 08:27 AM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Scott4444_99@yahoo.com at December 18, 2015 08:27 AM (eKIg1)
Posted by: WOPR at December 18, 2015 08:27 AM (LTDSy)
They are taking down statues of Robert E Lee, Jefferson Davis, and Bearagaurd
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 08:28 AM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 18, 2015 08:28 AM (kZVsz)
But May Day and 1938 rallies would be traditional
I encourage you just to take some moments of laughter to think of Obama in the most ridiculous get up available-talking in a silly voice and let your mind dwell on that for while. Laughter is good for people. Plenty of time to down later. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 08:28 AM (qES5k)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2015 08:28 AM (Yllyl)
A Sumo can't go wrong
When he keeps on keeping on.
Put up a fight for what is right;
Don't quit until you're done.
Until that Final Bell,
God loves us when we finish well.
So don't stop.
Just keep on keeping on.
(I spend a lot of time with 18mo grandson who only likes music and dancing in videos -- everything else he ignores.)
Posted by: mustbequantum at December 18, 2015 08:28 AM (MIKMs)
They are taking down statues of Robert E Lee, Jefferson Davis, and Bearagaurd
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 08:28 AM (gf8BH)
Oh and this is New Orleans for Christ sakes
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 08:29 AM (gf8BH)
Dutch backlash
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 18, 2015 08:24 AM (fWAjv)
Once is a riot. It will be interesting to see if it catches on or not.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 18, 2015 08:29 AM (J+mig)
This seems an appropriate picture to Fenelon's comment about Jesus still looking for us: The Light of the World, by William Holman Hunt
https://goo.gl/E0hWVF
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 18, 2015 08:29 AM (X6fMO)
Posted by: two of spades at December 18, 2015 08:30 AM (5kAKB)
Thanks, brother. Very kind of you!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 08:30 AM (qES5k)
Posted by: Die Polizei at December 18, 2015 08:18 AM (OLNwX)
Well, do remember that the Dutch once used F-104 starfighters to disorient hijackers during the seizure of a train full of students and teachers in 1977.
However, when the government uses gunfire on its citizens to enforce the rights of foreigners over the locals, the government is either going to become a dictatorship or fall.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 18, 2015 08:31 AM (q2o38)
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Happy Belated Birthday, Fenelon! I know John Ortberg - as you said he used to be at Willow Creek. That's where my sister and my mother go. He's the guy who wrote the book "If You Want to Walk On Water, You've Got to Get Out of the Boat."
Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 18, 2015 08:31 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 08:31 AM (qES5k)
"I tell ya, Beloved- This country is headed for Satan's rumpus room faster'n Okra Winfrey goin' thru the line at Golden Corral!"
Reverend Bill Ray Collins
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at December 18, 2015 08:31 AM (jN+3o)
Hillary Assures Supporters TWICE IN ONE DAY She Does Not Have Horns
Or a conscience.
Or ethical standards.
Or a shred of human decency.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 18, 2015 08:31 AM (oVJmc)
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Until Bruce cuts it off on pay per view I could give a damn.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 18, 2015 08:32 AM (fWAjv)
My congresscritter, who will be appearing in Tulsa next week with Ted Cruz, has explained he will vote against it, if only for Planned de-Parenthood. That's one....
https://youtu.be/ieBK5L19IK0
Posted by: mindful webworker - slow but sure at December 18, 2015 08:32 AM (/B6Iw)
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Veggietales is awesome.
Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 18, 2015 08:33 AM (dFi94)
This calendar called "The Life You've Always WantedI quotes from a number of his books. I like. I like that it never goes out of date because there are no years attached to it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 08:33 AM (qES5k)
May it fall. Long and hard. With an abrupt stop.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2015 08:33 AM (Yllyl)
Weapons of Peace. You can't damn them all just because a few have exploded.
Posted by: t-bird at December 18, 2015 08:34 AM (9mTYi)
to be interviewed by iconic newswoman on same day her new special with
Diane Sawyer is announced
Just remember, the ESPN award was something they bargained for. Bruce's 'struggle' is just another marketing opportunity for one of the Kardashian Kreeps.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 18, 2015 08:35 AM (oVJmc)
-Photos were posted on the Libyan Air Force's official Facebook page
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Pray for them.
This cocksucking son of a bitch piece of shit is sending them to their death.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 18, 2015 08:35 AM (fWAjv)
"What prayer means- to our adversary"
Brooklyn Tabernacle devotional
http://www.brooklyntabernacle.org/devotional
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 08:35 AM (qES5k)
My congresscritter, who will be appearing in Tulsa next week with Ted Cruz, has explained he will vote against it, if only for Planned de-Parenthood. That's one....
https://youtu.be/ieBK5L19IK0
Posted by: mindful webworker - slow but sure at December 18, 2015 08:32 AM (/B6Iw)
Ever hear these expressions:
In the Bag
Done Deal
cooked the books
Grim reality
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 08:35 AM (gf8BH)
________________________________________________________
162
Question: Do you know anyone who supports Bernie Sanders who is also good at math?
Posted by: V the K at December 18, 2015 08:10 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Pyrocles at December 18, 2015 08:37 AM (MYMcU)
saying that there's nothing to worry about... while he's wearing a
hazmat suit.
Weapons of Peace. You can't damn them all just because a few have exploded.
Posted by: t-bird at December 18, 2015 08:34 AM (9mTYi)
You win the internet, sir.
Let's start doing this as a counter to Gun Control, also. They're not Assault Rifles, they're Peace Rifles. You can't blame all of the millions of poor, innocent rifles in this country because a few have been used for violence.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 18, 2015 08:37 AM (J+mig)
Thanks; I think that picture has been in almost every church I have served. It's very dear to people.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 08:37 AM (qES5k)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 18, 2015 08:35 AM (oVJmc)
Anybody else seen the commercial for the OJ show with David Schwimmer playing Robert Kardashian. He;s sitting with the kids at a restaurant talking to them how honor and truth and not fame is what the Kardashian name stands for.
LMAO.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 18, 2015 08:39 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 18, 2015 08:39 AM (u5gzz)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 18, 2015 08:40 AM (qES5k)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 18, 2015 08:41 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 18, 2015 08:39 AM (u5gzz)
Truth is we don't have to...the GOP is doing that to themselves without our help... Oh and with the help of SHILLs
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 08:41 AM (gf8BH)
From the sidebar, the proposed viewing dome on top of an airliner. Put a remote controlled twin .50 caliber turret and my dad would be right at home.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 08:41 AM (uRmWf)
US Special Forces photographed for the first time on a secret mission in
Libya...
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 18, 2015 08:35 AM
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What the heck is this? I've seen nothing about it (why should that surprise me?)
Posted by: IrishEi at December 18, 2015 08:42 AM (E6RIJ)
That show was an embarrassment.
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 18, 2015 08:13 AM (kZVsz)
So that really happened?
I keep thinking people are joking and they are just...not.
Posted by: Lea at December 18, 2015 08:43 AM (lIU4e)
Posted by: IrishEi at December 18, 2015 08:42 AM (E6RIJ)
http://tinyurl.com/zn2vou5
A unit of US Special Operations Forces have been spotted inside Libya after photographs were posted online on the North African country's air force social media page.
The small band of 20 US commandos were pictured carrying heavy weapons and dressed in civilian clothes at Watiya airbase in north-western Libya.
Upon arriving at the base via a Dornier 328 jet, the commandos disembarked before being ordered to leave by a local forces.
Flight trackers show the unit was flown back to Pantelleria airport, Sicily.
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What a clusterF
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 18, 2015 08:44 AM (fWAjv)
http://bit.ly/1RthAZn
Link is in Krautish, for illustrative purposes only as it contains the torso of a skinny girl.
Models will have to get a doctor to certify that they are healthy enough to do their job based on BMI.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at December 18, 2015 08:45 AM (1xUj/)
I'm sure he reached a whole new audience with his message.
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 18, 2015 08:46 AM (kZVsz)
Country's closed.
Moose at the front should have told you.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 18, 2015 08:46 AM (ptqRm)
I do not care if a Donk wins that seat a message needs to be delivered to these pigs.
And as for the fraudulent "house freedom caucus" a bigger bunch of con artists I have never seen.
The Repunlican party is one giant con on the American people.
It needs to be utterly destroyed.
Posted by: Kreplach at December 18, 2015 08:47 AM (mwGJC)
http://tinyurl.com/nnpqqes
Limbaugh's right as far as he goes, but he doesn't go far enough. The federal government is at war with the American people. When do we start fighting back?
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 18, 2015 08:47 AM (u5gzz)
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 18, 2015 08:49 AM (kZVsz)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 18, 2015 08:46 AM (ptqRm) Never tire of that phrase. You do owe me a new screen for that one though.
Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at December 18, 2015 08:49 AM (22uju)
It's clear that voting isn't achieving the desired result of accountability.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 18, 2015 08:50 AM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Bigby's Shaking Hands at December 18, 2015 08:50 AM (3ZtZW)
http://tinyurl.com/nnpqqes
Limbaugh's right as far as he goes, but he doesn't go far enough. The federal government is at war with the American people. When do we start fighting back?
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at December 18, 2015 08:47 AM (u5gzz)
He all but called for a third party without doing so. And I don't think he's dumb enough to call for armed insurrection on the air.
But the sentiment is there with all of us. Oh yes it is.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 08:50 AM (uRmWf)
http://tinyurl.com/hoq796c
h/t drudge
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 18, 2015 08:51 AM (ftVQq)
Pentagon claimed decision to transfer al Qaeda financier was unanimous
It is a matter of congressional record that I recommended against releasing Shaker Aamer, Dempsey told the Washington Free Beacon in an email.
Most transparent admin ever?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 08:52 AM (gf8BH)
Even if you replace everyone or a large majority, the system is such that even the most honest of people - with very few exceptions - either get corrupted and go along or are crushed by the crooks.
The way to defeat this is to strike at the heart of the Leviathan. A big blow would be term limits and a repeal of the 17th amendment.
Good luck with those.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 08:52 AM (uRmWf)
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Thanks for the link, RWC. Yet again we must rely on the British papers for our news, and terrible news it is. Not surprised though, considering who the CinC is.
Posted by: IrishEi at December 18, 2015 08:53 AM (E6RIJ)
and dressed in civilian clothes at Watiya airbase in north-western
Libya.>>>
Not a surprise, but the medias definition of "heavy weapons" and mine are vastly different.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 18, 2015 08:55 AM (XtAzU)
Posted by: freaked at December 18, 2015 07:07 AM (BO/km)
I think we would all enjoy the time President Batman went down to negotiate with Congress-
and made his point by beating the living doo-dah out of Turtle and Eddie Munster.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 18, 2015 08:55 AM (KUa85)
If you factor in Social Security it is about $250 billion.
This is from the OMB website.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 18, 2015 08:55 AM (LXJ1e)
Cock suckers one and all
CUE THE SHILL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 08:56 AM (gf8BH)
Good Morning all. From this day in 1943.
Dec 18, 1943 - The EZ Dog Journals
Patrols moving out on all fronts. Meeting little resistance.
I went to 10 Corps at Sparanise and II Corps at S. Maria to coordinate position areas. Nothing exciting. Cooler. "A" Co, 894 to new position.
10 Corps (British X Corps)
II Corps (U.S.)
S. Maria = Santa Maria Capua Vetere (near Caserta)
"A" Co, 894 = A Company, 894th Tank Destroyer Battalion
Part of Dad's duties included liaison among various higher-up HQs.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 18, 2015 08:57 AM (NeFrd)
My wishlist would be term limits, balanced budged, and 17th repeal. All of those seem to be in the state's interests.
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 18, 2015 08:57 AM (kZVsz)
*types
*deletes
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 18, 2015 08:58 AM (fWAjv)
the Leviathan. A big blow would be term limits and a repeal of the 17th
amendment.
Good luck with those.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 08:52 AM
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And the only way to do that is to go around Congress. The Convention of States seeks to do just that--I wish it had more support, since, although not perfect, it's probably the only hope we've got.
Posted by: IrishEi at December 18, 2015 08:58 AM (E6RIJ)
To paraphrase Dorothy Parker:
Every word that comes out of Obama is a lie, including "a", "an", "the", "I", "my", "um" and "er"!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 18, 2015 08:59 AM (ftVQq)
My wishlist would be term limits, balanced budged, and 17th repeal. All of those seem to be in the state's interests.
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 18, 2015 08:57 AM (kZVsz)
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I vote for dissolution or any state may leave the union after two concurrent majority votes of the state's legislature.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 18, 2015 08:59 AM (LXJ1e)
I'm in Orlando for a few days. It's a place where I lived for many years. It's where my son was born. Where I met Mr. Black, who's lived in Winter Park (in Orlando, but a bit nicer) his whole life. This trip, I've been amazed at the number of muslim women walking around in head scarves. They're at every turn. It's been really shocking. I've even seen a completely garbage-bagged woman, head to toe in her black tarp, only eye slits allowed, holding hands and walking with her man...who was dressed in shorts and flip flops. I hardly feel like I'm in America. It looks like another country here, and I can only imagine what a quadrupling of H2 visas, coupled with the import of 10s of 1000s of Middle Eastern "refugees" will turn this place into.
Which led me to think about how we're bringing in so many people with different beliefs and different cultures. And all it takes is 1 of them to call a school board and complain about being offended. And just like that, BAM!, American tradition is thrown out the window and who we are is gone...Just. Like. That. Obviously, I'm referencing the assault on Christmas in public education, but it could and will start to include everything.
After Ryan's, and the GOP's, mind-boggling sellout yesterday, I was enraged. Depressed. Hopeless. I just don't see a way out. I've held onto hope for a long time, despite the America implosion I've witnessed all these unholy years with TFG in office. Every institution is polluted with leftists. My light is getting dim. Sorry for the downer...
/rant
Posted by: Lady in Black...sigh at December 18, 2015 09:00 AM (WhZVP)
There were things not to be proud of, which resulted in mom divorcing him. I didn't understand that much when I was 12. That damage to our family lives on, generations later.
But he was, seems to me, not a bad man, just a foolish one.
His proudest role was as GOP chairman from Oklahoma. Back then, the state was hard Democrat (like most Southern states then). The GOP, like the GOPe today, was not so much interested in winning as in the power and profit from being the loser party.
Dad worked on a door-to-door county-wide get-out-the-vote campaign ("we'd like you to vote Republican, but mainly we want you to vote" was the slogan) that turned brought him to the attention of the state GOP. Despite them (as he once told me), he managed to turn the state around, and get our first Republican governor elected. The state GOP has been strong ever since, despite its infections of RINO-itis. (His work merited a whole chapter in Gov Bellmon's biography.)
My brother once wrote Nixon, asking if he recalled our Dad. Nixon sent back a signed copy of his latest book, with the note that he was sorry our Dad hadn't lived to see "our victory in 1968." (My cynical thought was, yeah, but if he had lived, Nixon's resignation probably would've killed him!)
I never got to know my dad as an adult. He was stern, too quick to anger (although I only got The Belt once), but generous and loving in my memory. I miss him.
Gov Bellmon went on to the Senate, where he was deeply disappointed, coming from a state that worked to a body that didn't. The GOP, and DC in general, may be truly hopeless today, but knowing Dad's work is the reason I haven't given up yet. That, and my super belief in the triumph of "truth, justice, and the American way."
With that, I'm going to head offline for a while.
Posted by: mindful webworker - Constitutional repubican at December 18, 2015 09:00 AM (/B6Iw)
My wishlist would be term limits, balanced budged, and 17th repeal. All of those seem to be in the state's interests.
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 18, 2015 08:57 AM (kZVsz)
Language matters: It's not a constitutional convention. It's an Article V Convention of the States to propose amendments to the Constitution.
Levin's book has some excellent suggestions.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 09:00 AM (uRmWf)
and made his point by beating the living doo-dah out of Turtle and Eddie Munster.
*****
"BIFF!"
"POW!"
"ZOT!"
"SCHWING!"
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 18, 2015 09:00 AM (NeFrd)
We are at war with everybody. Unfortunately, math will ultimately win, and there's no way we can inflate our way out of this.
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 18, 2015 09:00 AM (kZVsz)
Our Constitution was written at the peak of the Enlightenment and argued and adopted by the most talented polymaths of the day.
Do you really want to live under what would come out of our Kommon Kore Kardashian kulture?
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at December 18, 2015 09:01 AM (1xUj/)
Cock suckers one and all
CUE THE SHILL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2015 08:56 AM (gf8BH)
The Shill will tell you how upset she is about all this.
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 09:02 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Paladin (Moderately Nefarious) at December 18, 2015 09:04 AM (YNPwP)
257 250 I'm just waiting for the states to call a constitutional convention. Once (and if) that happens, I think the flood gates will be opened.
My wishlist would be term limits, balanced budged, and 17th repeal. All of those seem to be in the state's interests.
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 18, 2015 08:57 AM (kZVsz)
Language matters: It's not a constitutional convention. It's an Article V Convention of the States to propose amendments to the Constitution.
Levin's book has some excellent suggestions.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 18, 2015 09:00 AM (uRmWf)
An Art V convention is a really bad idea.
It gives the Left and the gope access to the source code of the Constitution.
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 09:04 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 18, 2015 09:05 AM (kZVsz)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2015 09:06 AM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 18, 2015 09:06 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2015 09:07 AM (jJRIy)
Is anyone compiling a list of how the Moron Nation scored on the "How dark is your personality Test" from the Overnight thread?
--
I was "surprisingly saintly." I supposed that means I'll be one of the first squashed in the coming Revolucion.
Posted by: Lady in Black...sigh at December 18, 2015 09:08 AM (WhZVP)
he's dumb enough to call for armed insurrection on the air.
But the sentiment is there with all of us. Oh yes it is.
I read a selected number of MSM from around the country, and it's all about the evil republicans. Even newspapers from west, the midwest, south and of course the east. Anyone who reads the local paper/TV websites has to be indoctrinated.....no matter what we think!!
Posted by: Colin at December 18, 2015 09:08 AM (T3Tpd)
The only way to equitably fixing the national debt and eliminating the budget deficit has to include selling off much of what the federal government has no business owning in the first place.
Posted by: jwest at December 18, 2015 09:08 AM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2015 09:08 AM (jJRIy)
Stand fast. Don't let the enemy grind you down. They cannot face us. They are craven, led by the craven. Remember how 5,000 English defeated 50,000 French at Agincourt. Tactics and perseverance.
Stand fast.
Posted by: setnaffa at December 18, 2015 09:09 AM (BtRXi)
Do we really trust anyone in government anymore...especially with the responsibility of an Article V Convention? The results would be disaster.
But then that's where we are headed anyway and this would be a great way to sort out who the enemy is.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 18, 2015 09:10 AM (08Znv)
Posted by: Kindltot at December 18, 2015 09:10 AM (q2o38)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 18, 2015 09:10 AM (ptqRm)
To which I would add: Congress will not exempt itself from any legislation it passes.
Bills will only be about one issue and written in plain English. No more legalistic gobbledygook with which to confuse the public.
All federal agencies will use zero-based budgeting. Make them prove a need for anything they want to spend money on instead of carrying over last year's budget.
And speaking of the budget, it will be balanced. No if's, and's or but's. If they want to spend money, they need to make sure that the economy is booming to pay for their largess.
Animals will no longer be elevated above the needs of humans. This means that the water to places like the Central Valley in California will be turned back on, to hell with some damned baitfish.
Human life will be held as sacred. No more Planned Butcherhood funding.
And that's just the start.
Of course, if there was such a thing as a responsible, honest politician, we wouldn't need to do any of this.
#WASTF
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 18, 2015 09:10 AM (LUgeY)
If he planned to only sever his neighbors head, he would have been golden.
Posted by: Lea at December 18, 2015 09:11 AM (lIU4e)
cannot face us. They are craven, led by the craven. Remember how 5,000
English defeated 50,000 French at Agincourt. Tactics and perseverance.
Stand fast.
Posted by: setnaffa at December 18, 2015 09:09 AM (BtRXi)
So, who's going to burn the boats?
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2015 09:12 AM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 18, 2015 09:13 AM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: joe at December 18, 2015 09:14 AM (KUaJL)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (rock salt and fire-hook at the ready !) at December 18, 2015 09:14 AM (erRNA)
So, who's going to burn the boats?
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2015 09:12 AM (jJRIy)
What boats? Last time I was out on a boat, it was a canoe and the damned thing flipped me into the drink and I lost my whole gun collection. Fuck boats. Boats suck.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 18, 2015 09:14 AM (gwpf+)
I don't know. I'm rather fond of our Constitutional system. It does rely on all of the branches abiding by it, which doesn't seem to be happening any more.
So Congress does not insist on its prerogatives and allows a feckless President to feck everything he touches. I don't have a solution for that.
I am very much afraid of a "solution" that this generation would come up with.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at December 18, 2015 09:15 AM (1xUj/)
There really is no fixing the government we have, its not bound by the Constitution as is plain to see.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 18, 2015 09:18 AM (LXJ1e)
If we didn't have to live with the results, it would almost be fun to watch.
But I suspect that the survival rate would be rather low.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 18, 2015 09:18 AM (ptqRm)
Here, human, human, human. I have nice treat for you!
Posted by: Legendary Super Mutant Butcher at December 18, 2015 09:20 AM (KSP4V)
Without resetting all the past promises, there's no future, and I only know of one way the deck can be cleared.
Not that I'm calling for anything: what has to happen will happen, whether I want it or not.
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 18, 2015 09:20 AM (kZVsz)
284 Again, all we need out of a convention is an amendment to allow a state to secede from the union.
There really is no fixing the government we have, its not bound by the Constitution as is plain to see.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 18, 2015 09:18 AM (LXJ1e)
States need WMD.
Then they can secede anytime they want.
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 09:20 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 09:22 AM (MQEz6)
1. Destroy the government model which has made this nation great.
2. ?
3. Profit!!
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 18, 2015 09:25 AM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 18, 2015 09:25 AM (kZVsz)
Posted by: Paladin (Moderately Nefarious) at December 18, 2015 09:04 AM (YNPwP)
I am infrequently vile. "You mostly put others before yourself, though you may find occasions in which your dark side shines."
Posted by: Mainah at December 18, 2015 09:26 AM (659DL)
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 09:04 AM
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Not so! Check out their website; all the fears of a "runaway" convention are completely debunked. Here's their page where they respond to opposition:
{Fix the (dot) in the link}
conventionofstates(dot)com/responses_to_convention_of_states_opposition
Posted by: IrishEi at December 18, 2015 09:26 AM (E6RIJ)
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Its a question of whether its a final 'fix' or 'progress towards a fix' that you're after, but I'll agree that currently we're at loggerheads. Had the GOPe actually represented the base over the last 30 years or so we could have avoided this entire mess, ironically enough.
Posted by: Bigby's Shaking Hands at December 18, 2015 09:27 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 18, 2015 09:27 AM (ppaKI)
What I learned...
Sooth could be obnoxious (which never happens here, oh, wait) and fractious ( we must keep this a safe space) and...
I can make me some thermite, even nano-thermite, just by throwing some rust and powdered aluminum together (never mind proportions) and throwing some kerosene on it and lighting it up.
Thanks. Good to know. Might come in handy.
Now, about all those explosions the firefighters heard just before the buildings came down. Interviews in the vid I mentioned.
And bldg 7 coming down like a team of experts had set the charges, from a few small fires, no jet fuel.
Oh, never mind.
Keep spewing that party line.
Gonna miss you grammie.
Leofb
Posted by: the big bad wolf at December 18, 2015 09:27 AM (xL9OZ)
Heh, me too.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 18, 2015 09:27 AM (LUgeY)
States need WMD.
Then they can secede anytime they want.
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 09:20 AM (MQEz6)
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I'd rather try it outside the threat of force first.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 18, 2015 09:28 AM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at December 18, 2015 09:29 AM (1xUj/)
298
States need WMD.
Then they can secede anytime they want.
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 09:20 AM (MQEz6)
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I'd rather try it outside the threat of force first.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 18, 2015 09:28 AM (LXJ1e)
The Empire already uses the threat of force.
Try not filing tax returns.
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 09:29 AM (MQEz6)
P|ss off. Right there. The shibboleth that says, "stop reading I' not a serious writer."
Posted by: bour3 at December 18, 2015 09:29 AM (5x3+2)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 18, 2015 09:30 AM (jJRIy)
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 09:04 AM
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Not so! Check out their website; all the fears of a "runaway" convention are completely debunked. Here's their page where they respond to opposition:
{Fix the (dot) in the link}
Do they have an answer to how they plan to make everyone abide by the outcome?
If so, why not just make everyone abide by the fucking Constitution that we have now?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2015 09:30 AM (Yllyl)
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 09:31 AM (MQEz6)
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By finding common ground! Then they'll want to follow it!
/s
Posted by: Bigby's Shaking Hands at December 18, 2015 09:31 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at December 18, 2015 09:29 AM (1xUj/)
Wouldn't work on my computer.
What a shame. I wanted to see how nefarious I am...
Posted by: Lea at December 18, 2015 09:32 AM (lIU4e)
Remember how 5,000 English defeated 50,000 French at Agincourt. Tactics and perseverance.
Posted by: setnaffa at December 18, 2015 09:09 AM (BtRXi)
And mud. Lots of mud.
Posted by: rickl at December 18, 2015 09:32 AM (zoehZ)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 18, 2015 09:32 AM (LUgeY)
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No, not at all.
Posted by: Bigby's Shaking Hands at December 18, 2015 09:33 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 09:04 AM
What's your alternative? "Elect the right people."
BSL - (Bitter Sarcastic Laughter)
Posted by: V the K at December 18, 2015 09:33 AM (O7MnT)
The Empire already uses the threat of force.
Try not filing tax returns.
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 09:29 AM (MQEz6)
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You've got me there.
Maybe that's why I'm better than our government.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 18, 2015 09:34 AM (LXJ1e)
310 An Art V convention is a really bad idea.
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 09:04 AM
What's your alternative? "Elect the right people."
BSL - (Bitter Sarcastic Laughter)
Posted by: V the K at December 18, 2015 09:33 AM (O7MnT)
There is not much we can do except strengthen ourselves, our institutions, etc. as we prepare for collapse and recovery.
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 09:36 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (rock salt and fire-hook at the ready !) at December 18, 2015 09:38 AM (erRNA)
We are at war with everybody. Unfortunately, math will ultimately win, and there's no way we can inflate our way out of this.
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 18, 2015 09:00 AM (kZVsz)
Massive debt with inflation then "to get us out of it" by repaying our creditors with less valuable inflated currency has been the plan of Obama and his "economists" since before he was elected.
They were talking about it openly on places like NPR and other media before and after his election until I guess it polled poorly.
His people were openly talking about Obama as the "Anti-Reagan".
I was surprised at the time that no one, no one was making any commotion about this-
as there are plenty of people who remember the awful inflation of the 70's.
And a big part of Reagan's recovery and boom was throttling down inflation in the first 2 yrs or his term.
But, given the events, since the last election and Congressional control by the Republicans and yesterdays pure stab in the back-
I guess we're all anti-Reagans now.
BONUS!!! for statist/socialist turds:
Massive inflation is a automatic revenue enhancer for the state as inflated salaries push you into "higher income" bracket.
More inflation = more taxes = more better.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 18, 2015 09:38 AM (KUa85)
Since we can't even do that. What's the use of guns?
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 18, 2015 09:38 AM (LXJ1e)
The Milan-Linate ground collision was such a total cluster-fetch.
- The official airport maps didn't match the ground markings on the runways.
- The Italian police moved the aircraft wreckage before air crash investigators arrived.
- The Runway Incursion alarms had been turned off years ago.
It was a bigger mess than Obama's security policies.
Posted by: V the K at December 18, 2015 09:38 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 18, 2015 09:38 AM (kZVsz)
WTF
Posted by: V the K at December 18, 2015 09:39 AM (O7MnT)
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People have a tendency to swiftly become more reserved and hard-headed, amongst other things, in moments of real crisis. There'll be far less tolerance for a lot of the BS we see now, I think, and simple, effective solutions will be sought.
Posted by: Bigby's Shaking Hands at December 18, 2015 09:40 AM (3ZtZW)
315 If you want a revolution, all it would take is millions of Americans at the capital engaging in peaceful civil disobedience, occupying the Capital Building, Supreme Court, White House and grounds.
Since we can't even do that. What's the use of guns?
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 18, 2015 09:38 AM (LXJ1e)
Two uses. One, we just might do that, so then the guns come in handy. Two, the guns help keep the Empire from doing something to us.
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 09:40 AM (MQEz6)
Exactly. When the feral government won't police itself and hold each other up to the laws and the Constitution, tinkering with the Constitution won't help.
Burn. It. Down.
Then rebuild. Whom ever was in the pervious, is hereby barred, upon pain of death, of being involved in any way, shape, or form of the post burn government.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2015 09:41 AM (Yllyl)
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at December 18, 2015 09:41 AM (kXzR8)
Remember how 5,000 English defeated 50,000 French at Agincourt. Tactics and perseverance.
Posted by: setnaffa at December 18, 2015 09:09 AM (BtRXi)
And mud. Lots of mud.
Posted by: rickl
And longbows.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at December 18, 2015 09:41 AM (kfcYC)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 18, 2015 09:41 AM (fWAjv)
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From an artillery point of view, you'd never get within spitting distance of any of those buildings.
Posted by: Bigby's Shaking Hands at December 18, 2015 09:42 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Lizzy at December 18, 2015 09:43 AM (NOIQH)
For the benefit of us non-Tribe, is it "C"hanukkah?
I've seen both.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
Yes, c"happy to be of c"help.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at December 18, 2015 09:43 AM (kfcYC)
An Article V convention is an awful idea.
It has exactly the same weakness as "electing the right people".
After Rubio and Ryan and many many others who talked a good game but then turned out to be pure leftard puppets when push came to shove-
you really want trust a rewriting of the Constitution to any politician?
Posted by: naturalfake at December 18, 2015 09:43 AM (KUa85)
Posted by: Tilikum-Moderately Nefarious at December 18, 2015 09:44 AM (m3iiU)
Two uses. One, we just might do that, so then the guns come in handy. Two, the guns help keep the Empire from doing something to us.
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 09:40 AM (MQEz6)
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Yes, those guns will really work well against and A-10 or an Abrams bearing down upon you.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 18, 2015 09:44 AM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: Panhandler at December 18, 2015 09:44 AM (si1cb)
Posted by: Bigby's Shaking Hands at December 18, 2015 09:33 AM
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How so? What concerns do you have that are not addressed at the link I posted?
Posted by: IrishEi at December 18, 2015 09:44 AM (E6RIJ)
If we have negative inflation (I know, bear with me), and "our" reps cannot deliver a bill that doesn't increase the government 6%, how can they even inflate their way out of it?
If they froze the spending to last years levels, I'd at least appreciate that they're trying to fool me. But with this budget, they aren't even bothering to do that.
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 18, 2015 09:44 AM (kZVsz)
Posted by: Panhandler at December 18, 2015 09:46 AM (si1cb)
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Do you read any other sources on this subject? Anything opposed?
Posted by: Bigby's Shaking Hands at December 18, 2015 09:46 AM (3ZtZW)
If so, why not just make everyone abide by the fucking Constitution that we have now?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2015 09:30 AM
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Maybe you should read the articles at the link I posted before condemning the idea whole cloth. The amendments proposed would return power to the people and the states, which was the original intent. It is the Leviathan that has shredded the constitution, not "the people."
Posted by: IrishEi at December 18, 2015 09:46 AM (E6RIJ)
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 18, 2015 09:47 AM (kZVsz)
From an artillery point of view, you'd never get within spitting distance of any of those buildings.
Posted by: Bigby's Shaking Hands at December 18, 2015 09:42 AM (3ZtZW)
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With enough people, any defense around those buildings would immediately collapse.
But they don't have to occupy the building really as millions of people occupy the capital grounds area for weeks will result in a massive change.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 18, 2015 09:47 AM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 18, 2015 09:47 AM (kZVsz)
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Good luck thinking 4G warfare will bring the government down or effect any change.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 18, 2015 09:49 AM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: Fritz at December 18, 2015 09:49 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: IrishEi at December 18, 2015 09:44 AM (E6RIJ)
Ah, youth.....
Posted by: BurtTC at December 18, 2015 09:50 AM (Dj0WE)
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Hah! Seriously.
Wash DC is a major city, yet all the buildings are capped as far as height goes. Any idea where they all are?
Posted by: Bigby's Shaking Hands at December 18, 2015 09:50 AM (3ZtZW)
Reread the Constitution. We have that NOW.
What we don't have, is people abiding by the Constitution.
What makes you think people will magically abide by something new?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2015 09:51 AM (Yllyl)
Hanukka with two Ks.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at December 18, 2015 09:52 AM (1xUj/)
What makes you think people will magically abide by something new?
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Say, how did we get that Constitution anyway? What was the process?
Posted by: Bigby's Shaking Hands at December 18, 2015 09:52 AM (3ZtZW)
What we don't have, is people abiding by the Constitution.
What makes you think people will magically abide by something new?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2015 09:51 AM (Yllyl)
I find it comical to even discuss the idea of wresting power away from Washington... by having a convention.
What, those people in Washington are just going to give it away? They have guns.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 18, 2015 09:53 AM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: naturalfake at December 18, 2015 09:43 AM
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It's really disheartening to see that so many here have never even visited the Convention of States website to learn about it, yet are quick to trash the idea.
Do any of you have any better ideas? And no, armed revolution is not an option.
I'm not trying to avoid debate here, but I've got to sign off and get to work. I urge all of you to: 1.) Read Mark Levin's "Liberty and Tyranny," and 2.) Go to Conventionofstates.com and learn about the movement.
In my view, it is our only hope.
Posted by: IrishEi at December 18, 2015 09:53 AM (E6RIJ)
Posted by: Fritz at December 18, 2015 09:49 AM (UzPAd
Difficult to groom her when she melts when water touches her
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 18, 2015 09:53 AM (voOPb)
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Done both.
Heard, respected, and rejected.
Posted by: Bigby's Shaking Hands at December 18, 2015 09:54 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Bigby's Shaking Hands at December 18, 2015 09:52 AM (3ZtZW)
Step 1: Bloody Conflict
Step 2: Convention
Our young friend here seems to want to skip Step 1. Which is understandable.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 18, 2015 09:54 AM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Palmetto Primary at December 18, 2015 09:55 AM (bRnfW)
Yes, lets use the playbook of post wwi germans. Because that worked out well.
Posted by: Lea - Unknown level of Nefariosity at December 18, 2015 09:55 AM (lIU4e)
Do any of you have any better ideas? And no, armed revolution is not an option.
I'm not trying to avoid debate here, but I've got to sign off and get to work. I urge all of you to: 1.) Read Mark Levin's "Liberty and Tyranny," and 2.) Go to Conventionofstates.com and learn about the movement.
In my view, it is our only hope.
Posted by: IrishEi at December 18, 2015 09:53 AM (E6RIJ)
You sound like you're selling something here.
Badly.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 18, 2015 09:56 AM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: calender at December 18, 2015 09:56 AM (HSAmh)
Whole lot of shooting first.
Q: What's wrong with the current Constitution?
A: Nothing
Q: Why don't people follow the current Constitution?
A: Because no one is making them.
Q: So people will automatically follow a new one, because?
A: Um, ........
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2015 09:57 AM (Yllyl)
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Yes. A Convention to *revise* the Articles of Confederation, where the representatives were limited in authority and instructed to be narrow in topics addressed. First thing they did was vote those restrictions down.
Posted by: Bigby's Shaking Hands at December 18, 2015 09:57 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: HH at December 18, 2015 09:59 AM (DrCtv)
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 10:00 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Bigby's Shaking Hands at December 18, 2015 09:57 AM (3ZtZW)
I'm reminded of that cute little answer W gave some years ago, and I'm not even sure of the context. He said something "what we really need now is a dictator... as long as I'm the dictator."
He said it with a chuckle, but I think it got a bunch of people's panties in a wad.
Whatever. Yeah. A convention made up of... who now? Ima gonna go out on a limb and assume the people with this brilliant idea of having a convention are pretty sure already what the end result of that convention should be.
Which makes them... eh, dictators? I think that's what you call people who want to dictate to others.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 18, 2015 10:01 AM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 09:04 AM
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Not so! Check out their website; all the fears of a "runaway"
convention are completely debunked. Here's their page where they respond
to opposition:
{Fix the (dot) in the link}
Do they have an answer to how they plan to make everyone abide by the outcome?
If so, why not just make everyone abide by the fucking Constitution that we have now?
.
.
.
.Exactly. I have asked that very same question many times before and have not received one single concrete response to it. The bottom line is they aren't abiding by what we have now and they will not magically change after a convention.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 18, 2015 10:02 AM (iONHu)
I don't think it would come down to it but do you think the Taliban is a more formidable force than what a determined American citizenry would be?
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 18, 2015 10:02 AM (+hd5N)
If the Art V is our only hope, then we are well and truly fucked.
Posted by: eman at December 18, 2015 10:00 AM (MQEz6)
Not our only hope. Just one of the last things we can do before the options start to get really ugly, and it doesn't preclude any ugliness afterwards if it doesn't work. So there's really not much to lose if tried, except time.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at December 18, 2015 10:04 AM (HalrA)
Posted by: why we we at December 18, 2015 10:05 AM (j2xmV)
Muslim terrorist cut off his nose
Allulah Akbar being shouted with a tire
Being lit along with his cloths
Everybody knows this scenario
Helps to make the season bright
Little terrorist with their eyes all aglow
Watch his fat ass lit up in the night
They know that Allah's on the way
He's loaded lots of guns and vests
On his sleigh
And every terrorist's child is gonna die
Supporting Allah way up high
And so I'm offering this simple phrase
To terrorist from one to ninety-two
Although it's been said many times and many ways
Shove your jihad up your ass and Michael's too
Posted by: kennyraisin at December 18, 2015 10:06 AM (rmvCQ)
If so, why not just make everyone abide by the fucking Constitution that we have now?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 18, 2015 09:30 AM
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Maybe you should read the articles at the link I posted before condemning the idea whole cloth. The amendments proposed would return power to the people and the states, which was the original intent. It is the Leviathan that has shredded the constitution, not "the people."
Posted by: IrishEi at December 18, 2015 09:46 AM (E6RIJ)
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OK, after reading their answer is that the founders used vague phraseology that has been exploited by modern day politicians.
Their contention is that and Article V conventions will phrase amendments so tightly that they cannot be misinterpreted.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 18, 2015 10:18 AM (LXJ1e)
I don't think it would come down to it but do you think the Taliban is a more formidable force than what a determined American citizenry would be?
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 18, 2015 10:02 AM (+hd5N)
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1) At this point, yes. I'm also of the belief that the gun owners will sell every other right down the river in order to maintain their right to own guns. This is shown by the NRA's support of Reid, and especially their OK a few years ago of limitation on political speech as long as they were exempted.
2) Afganistan is half way around the world. And the American prosecution of that war has been half hearted at best.
3) Its clear that the Federal Government views its own citizens as the real enemy and worthy of contempt.
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Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 18, 2015 10:25 AM (LXJ1e)
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Hah! Seriously.
Wash DC is a major city, yet all the buildings are capped as far as height goes. Any idea where they all are?
Posted by: Bigby's Shaking Hands at December 18, 2015 09:50 AM (3ZtZW)
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The capital police protect the government buildings and the SS the White House, both are woefully inadequate to stop millions of peaceful protestors.
I'm not saying the government will not try to stop the protest, even to the use of violence, I'm saying that weapons in the hands of protesters will do no good, turn much of the populace against them and embolden the government to escalate the use of force.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 18, 2015 10:29 AM (LXJ1e)
Longbows, mud, wooden stakes, pep talks, and great music are a start. but none of it matters if we show the white feather.
Stand fast.
Posted by: setnaffa at December 18, 2015 10:48 AM (BtRXi)
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