For the First Time in 20 Years, a NYT Poll Finds That a Majority of Americans Oppose a Ban on So-Called "Assault Weapons"

For first time in 20 yrs of @nytimes poll, a majority of Americans opposes ban on assault weapons pic.twitter.com/xosjHoDNTi
— Patrick J. Egan (@Patrick_J_Egan) December 11, 2015

Lot of news coming. Don't be misled by this cheap easy one!

I have more cheap easy ones coming soon!

Update: Audio of Kurt Russel sparring with Hollywood Reporter reporter Jeffrey Wells. I mentioned this yesterday. Good audio.

Russell does something I have trouble doing: he remains completely good-humored and in control the whole time, and he wins just on tone. (Though he also wins in all the other areas, too.)

Posted by: Ace at 11:40 AM

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1
"Easy, ripe and lucious."

"The banks or the women?"

"Well, once you've got one. . ."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 11:41 AM (uhkms)

2 Oneth?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 11, 2015 11:41 AM (LUgeY)

3 How did this happen?

Posted by: navybrat at December 11, 2015 11:41 AM (ETxiG)

4 Shazbot! I'd get the others, but I just got here myself.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 11, 2015 11:41 AM (LUgeY)

5 They finally figured out they are really just semi-auto.

But more fun if they believe they are full auto - which is what should be thrown back in the left's face.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 11, 2015 11:42 AM (T78UI)

6 Cheap and easy... just like the perfect woman.

Posted by: no, not really at December 11, 2015 11:42 AM (H9MG5)

7 3 How did this happen?
Posted by: navybrat at December 11, 2015 11:41 AM (ETxiG)

Muslim outreach. An expression that is pregnant with meaning.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 11:43 AM (uhkms)

8 I have a theory.

If the word "ban" is in the question, most Americans will be against it unless it is horrific.

ie, "ban" on Muslims
"ban" on gaymarrirage

Posted by: Circe O'Valle at December 11, 2015 11:43 AM (L5EQD)

9
I seem to get misled by cheap, easy ones on a regular basis.

Which makes things expensive and difficult afterwards.

Posted by: LJim at December 11, 2015 11:43 AM (WDCYi)

10 5th or not

Posted by: Poll at December 11, 2015 11:43 AM (TbFL/)

11 8 I have a theory.

If the word "ban" is in the question, most Americans will be against it unless it is horrific.

ie, "ban" on Muslims
"ban" on gaymarrirage
Posted by: Circe O'Valle at December 11, 2015 11:43 AM (L5EQD)

And yet, a popular roll-on deodorant . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 11:44 AM (uhkms)

12 I think more people have been educated that "assault weapons" are not "machine guns"

The whole point of that term was "newspeak" in order to fool people. Doesn't work anymore.

The NRA was actually the main reason fully automatic machine guns were largely banned in the US, they saw it being a catalyst for banning guns at large.

Posted by: Coolio at December 11, 2015 11:44 AM (MA8Bf)

13 Most of the lofos who were surveyed probably thought "assault weapons" are already illegal fully automatic weapons.

Posted by: gates at December 11, 2015 11:44 AM (KsQen)

14 Kudos to America's Greatest Gun Salesman!

Posted by: tu3031 at December 11, 2015 11:45 AM (YFFpo)

15 I think they should rephrase the question and ask if Americans support a "banhammer" on weapons.

Posted by: kathysaysso at December 11, 2015 11:46 AM (fMQoG)

16 Form III are a good pro-choice weapon. You can choose full or semi-auto.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at December 11, 2015 11:47 AM (eytER)

17 The early Ewok gets the layup.

Posted by: Garrett at December 11, 2015 11:47 AM (93LO+)

18 This is because they don't know about the shoulder thingy that goes up

Posted by: The Jackhole at December 11, 2015 11:47 AM (3mTyP)

19 *BOOM*

(Scanners headsplosion)

Posted by: Piers Morgan at December 11, 2015 11:47 AM (hudka)

20 I like cheap and easy.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at December 11, 2015 11:48 AM (y4bHB)

21 I always thought you are cheap and easy.

Posted by: NotCoach at December 11, 2015 11:48 AM (rsudF)

22 Cheap and easy = a bottle of Valu-Rite and a hobo hunt.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Let the Outrage Outlet Plan and Cater Your Holiday Atrocity! at December 11, 2015 11:48 AM (hLRSq)

23 *BOOM*

(Scanners headsplosion)

Posted by: Piers Morgan at December 11, 2015 11:47 AM (hudka)

It would be a barely audible pop for you, Piers.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Let the Outrage Outlet Plan and Cater Your Holiday Atrocity! at December 11, 2015 11:49 AM (hLRSq)

24 I think more people have been educated that "assault weapons" are not "machine guns"

The whole point of that term was "newspeak" in order to fool people. Doesn't work anymore.

I think it's more basic. When the AWB was sunset, there was all kinds of hyperbole about how blood would be running in the streets and so on.

Didn't happen, so the Progs were shown to be spouting off uninformed as usual.

Unfortunately, the Progs seem hell-bent on importing violent jihadists into the US to, I guess, justify their fears.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at December 11, 2015 11:49 AM (eytER)

25 I wonder what may have changed peoples minds?

Posted by: donna at December 11, 2015 11:49 AM (/dSsq)

26 JJ Sefton is in the HOUSE!

Posted by: Truck Monkey is a Mime..... Serious at December 11, 2015 11:50 AM (zv81W)

27 Kudos to America's Greatest Gun Salesman!

H&K, S&W and all the other gun manufacturers should get together and send TFP a nice gift basket for all his efforts.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 11, 2015 11:50 AM (LUgeY)

28 Cheap n' Easy.

That's my style.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at December 11, 2015 11:51 AM (93LO+)

29 We tried it once already, didn't do too much, people caught on.

Funny, same thing happened with amnesty!

Posted by: Lea at December 11, 2015 11:51 AM (lIU4e)

30 H&K, S&W and all the other gun manufacturers should get together and send TFP a nice gift basket for all his efforts.

Yes, some nice bath oil and a new tutu...

Posted by: donna at December 11, 2015 11:52 AM (/dSsq)

31 Well let's see: BLM are rioting in the streets calling for "death to whitey" and radical Islamic terrorists are being issued K1 visas with fake addresses and no one person interview
It isn't too difficult to figure out people realizing that keeping guns out of law abiding citizens hands isn't the problem here.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at December 11, 2015 11:52 AM (y4bHB)

32 26 JJ Sefton is in the HOUSE!
Posted by: Truck Monkey is a Mime..... Serious at December 11, 2015 11:50 AM (zv81W)

Your behind-the-lines reporter, working today at a fairly notable MFM "webzine" as Ace has called it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 11:52 AM (uhkms)

33 Easy, there morons.

We know that Liberals can't learn from experience.

Posted by: Garrett at December 11, 2015 11:53 AM (93LO+)

34
Cheap and Easy is on the In 'n Out Burger secret menu, no?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 11:53 AM (uhkms)

35 When you get up at the crack of noon, it's hard to be "breaking" news outlet.

Posted by: jwest at December 11, 2015 11:54 AM (Zs4uk)

36 Sup ace. You seeing star wars on opening day or waiting?

Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 11, 2015 11:54 AM (xuouz)

37 But I want a ratatatatat!
Pew! Pew! Pew! is cool but not fabulous.

Posted by: votermom at December 11, 2015 11:54 AM (cbfNE)

38 Mornin' Ace
Gun Thread!!!

Posted by: BunkerIntheBurbs at December 11, 2015 11:54 AM (kXzR8)

39 33 Easy, there morons.

We know that Liberals can't learn from experience.
Posted by: Garrett at December 11, 2015 11:53 AM (93LO+)

Can't means won't.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 11:54 AM (uhkms)

40 Josh Sugarmann and Ladd Everitt put on suicide watch

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 11, 2015 11:54 AM (fWAjv)

41 So what happened in August of 1999?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 11, 2015 11:54 AM (FkBIv)

42 Good.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 11, 2015 11:55 AM (LA7Cm)

43 Lot of news coming. Don't be misled by this cheap easy one!

I have more cheap easy ones coming soon!

Going to make it up on volume?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 11, 2015 11:55 AM (kpqmD)

44 This right chere is a good enough reason to go out and pick up another AR-style rifle.

Posted by: Fritz at December 11, 2015 11:55 AM (UzPAd)

45 Both of those thefts in Lees Summit, a CVS and the BP are seconds from the freeway. They could have done this very quickly and got away. I don't know if either have surveillance or not. I think the BP does. I stop there every day on the way to work.

Posted by: jewells45 at December 11, 2015 11:55 AM (l/N7H)

46 Cheap and Easy is on the In 'n Out Burger secret menu, no?

A couple of pieces of meat and secret sauce, nothing else?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 11, 2015 11:55 AM (T78UI)

47 I like this. But I see a time coming where firearms laws will be irrelevant in the general breakdown of central authority anyway.

As a slight OT since it was on Fox a moment ago- who except the ad agencies and consultants slurping at his PAC trough thinks it is a wise use of funds to keep pushing TV ads for Yeb! Bush the Lesser?

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at December 11, 2015 11:55 AM (ye0GI)

48 But I want a ratatatatat!
Pew! Pew! Pew! is cool but not fabulous.

Ratatatatat is 'spensive to feed. Pew! Pew! Pew! is much easier on the pocket book.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 11, 2015 11:55 AM (5YE4e)

49 That is statistically irrefutable.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 11, 2015 11:56 AM (ppaKI)

50 24.

I just know I have "non-gun" friends and they think an assault rifle is a military M-16 or an Ak-47. When that term first came into the language, people saw a black scary looking gun and just assumed it was military machine guns.

Now more people realize an "assault rifle" is basically a catch all term that could mean a 100 year old rifle.

I would easily wager 99.9% of homicides are not committed by "assault weapons".

Guns are one of the few things conservatives are really good about "pushing back" which is why the Left so badly wants that head on a stake. It's their "white whale".

Posted by: Coolio at December 11, 2015 11:56 AM (MA8Bf)

51 >>When you get up at the crack of noon, it's hard to be "breaking" news outlet

It's 8 am, somewhere.

Posted by: Garrett at December 11, 2015 11:56 AM (93LO+)

52 Pajama Boy vs. Snake Plissken!
Place your bets!

Posted by: tu3031 at December 11, 2015 11:57 AM (YFFpo)

53 And Obama was "underwater" in the polls, in the runup to the 2012 election until a storm, some cooked economic statistics and voter fraud put him over the margin of victory.

Long term, never before have so many Americans been so openly hostile to free markets, indvidual liberty and so ignorant of our history given generations of leftist public school indoctrination.

I'll take whatever good news you can find, but if you reworded the question slightly, you could proabably find 51% of the country in favor of banning tuna salad.

Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant buying dried foods at December 11, 2015 11:57 AM (k8tEg)

54 Josh Sugarmann and Ladd Everitt put on suicide watch

Still watching. They haven't made their move yet.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 11, 2015 11:57 AM (5YE4e)

55 a hah!

http://www.assaultweapon.info/

Posted by: Da Funk at December 11, 2015 11:58 AM (pZ8TN)

56 Pinhead reporter seems to think that guns are a 'white' thing. How effed up do you have to be to hold that view?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 11, 2015 11:58 AM (oVJmc)

57 I would easily wager 99.9% of homicides are not committed by "assault weapons".

IIRC, 343 murders last year by ALL rifles.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 11, 2015 11:59 AM (5YE4e)

58 Expecting a sniffy tweet about stupid Americans from Piers Morgan at any moment.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 11, 2015 11:59 AM (ppaKI)

59 Snake?
I thought he was dead.

Posted by: Roland THTG at December 11, 2015 11:59 AM (QM5S2)

60 Still watching. They haven't made their move yet.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 11, 2015 11:57 AM (5YE4e)

DVR set just in case I step away

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 11, 2015 11:59 AM (fWAjv)

61
BAN TUNA SALAD! HUMA...........................................

Posted by: Scankles McFelon at December 11, 2015 11:59 AM (LVG/7)

62 "Now more people realize an "assault rifle" is basically a catch all term that could mean a 100 year old rifle. "

And there's a lot more of them owned by the general public than 25 years ago as well. People are more familiar with them.

Last rifle I bought (bolty) I asked the salesman some question and his response was "I don't really know, we don't sell that many hunting rifles anymore."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 11, 2015 11:59 AM (LA7Cm)

63 Long term, never before have so many Americans been so openly hostile to free markets, indvidual liberty and so ignorant of our history given generations of leftist public school indoctrination.

And here come the "Becomers."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 11, 2015 12:00 PM (FkBIv)

64
I have more cheap easy ones coming soon!

Sandra Fluke hardest hit.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 11, 2015 12:00 PM (X6fMO)

65 The catch is getting liberals to define "assault weapon".

Posted by: Lauren at December 11, 2015 12:00 PM (Kqit+)

66 You want to ban food, start with green-bean casserole. I wouldn't give that shit to death row inmates.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 11, 2015 12:01 PM (ppaKI)

67 If Ace moved the Home Office to Tonga, we could start calling him 'scoop'.

Posted by: Garrett at December 11, 2015 12:01 PM (93LO+)

68 59 Snake?
I thought he was dead.
==============

Sorry to disappoint you.

Posted by: Snake at December 11, 2015 12:01 PM (z4pSV)

69 65 The catch is getting liberals to define "assault weapon".
Posted by: Lauren at December 11, 2015 12:00 PM (Kqit+)

Pfft! Whatever we say it is!

- - Liberals

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 12:02 PM (uhkms)

70 66
You want to ban food, start with green-bean casserole. I wouldn't give that shit to death row inmates.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 11, 2015 12:01 PM (ppaKI)

And beets. It's inhuman to force anyone to eat beets.

Posted by: kathysaysso at December 11, 2015 12:02 PM (fMQoG)

71
Donald Trump buys Scranton!

http://tinyurl.com/c7bahfp

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 11, 2015 12:02 PM (RcpcZ)

72 Nice, nice interview. Russell controlled himself very well.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 11, 2015 12:03 PM (9mTYi)

73 70 And beets. It's inhuman to force anyone to eat beets.
Posted by: kathysaysso at December 11, 2015 12:02 PM (fMQoG)

Hence the female performance artist known as "the yam shooter."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 12:03 PM (uhkms)

74 here was all kinds of hyperbole about how blood would be running in the streets and so on.

Didn't happen,

It did but it's gang-bangers, Muslims and other psychos so it's reasons to buy guns not ban them.

Posted by: DaveA at December 11, 2015 12:03 PM (DL2i+)

75 Looking forward to the next scary thing they call semi-auto rifles.

Posted by: Chupacabra at December 11, 2015 12:03 PM (CGjum)

76 If the word "ban" is in the question, most Americans will be against it unless it is horrific.

I think you're right. By and large, Americans are allergic to the word "ban". Change that word to "regulate" and I imagine the results would be much different.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 11, 2015 12:03 PM (ppaKI)

77 The brits have this bizarre idea that allowing Trump in will antagonize the "moderate" muslims. LOL

Check out the comments -- darwin award in action:

http://hurryupharry.org/2015/12/11/the-last-trump/

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 11, 2015 12:04 PM (iQIUe)

78 And beets. It's inhuman to force anyone to eat beets.
Posted by: kathysaysso

Beets are SUPER!

Posted by: Dana at December 11, 2015 12:04 PM (FkBIv)

79 The main problem with this story is that now you have NYT subscription ads infesting your site.

Posted by: tu3031 at December 11, 2015 12:04 PM (YFFpo)

80 Fear will keep the Outer Systems in line.

Posted by: Grand Moff Lynch at December 11, 2015 12:04 PM (evdj2)

81 America.

FUCK YEAH.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 11, 2015 12:04 PM (wtvvX)

82 @71 Did he really? I read the article but not sure if its in jest..

Posted by: IC at December 11, 2015 12:04 PM (a0IVu)

83 Looking forward to the next scary thing they call semi-auto rifles.

Black Death Machines with the Thing That Goes Up

Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 11, 2015 12:05 PM (evdj2)

84 I am in the market for a flintlock rifle. A decent wall hanger might be okay. Any auction or broker suggestions?

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at December 11, 2015 12:05 PM (QZd2s)

85 The Hollywood guy tries his very best to control the narrative. Russell doesn't allow it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 11, 2015 12:05 PM (9mTYi)

86
Actually, roasted beets with a dollop of melted blue cheese, walnuts and balsamic vinegar is quite delish.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 12:05 PM (uhkms)

87 Kurt Russel has been winning for a long time.
See Goldie Hawn.

Posted by: teej at December 11, 2015 12:05 PM (HddOg)

88 When you think about it, what kind of people eat tuna salad? Are they salad people? Fish people? And where exactly is the salad?

Posted by: Fritz at December 11, 2015 12:05 PM (UzPAd)

89 I guess this guy talking to Kurt Russell is unaware of Sam Peckinpah. Movies must have started in the 90s.

Also, I have had a crush on Kurt Russell since "The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes."

Posted by: huerfano at December 11, 2015 12:06 PM (NSb9d)

90 The photo that Drudge has up right now of the Felonious Scankles is absolutely perfect.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 11, 2015 12:06 PM (wtvvX)

91 You want to ban food, start with green-bean casserole. I wouldn't give that shit to death row inmates.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 11, 2015 12:01 PM (ppaKI)

And beets. It's inhuman to force anyone to eat beets.
Posted by: kathysaysso

Hmmmm. Death Row meal at rickb223 Penitentiary: green bean casserole & beets.

Why do I care? You're gonna die.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 11, 2015 12:06 PM (5YE4e)

92 84 I am in the market for a flintlock rifle. A decent wall hanger might be okay. Any auction or broker suggestions?
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at December 11, 2015 12:05 PM (QZd2s)

Are you that guy what got bit by that "mugatu?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 12:06 PM (uhkms)

93 Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel

Needs to come to my neighborhood, we're the only white family literally for miles, and everyone carries (the men at least). The first two questions from most of my neighbors, "what's your faith?" "What you carry?"

Go to the south, black people are armed, it served them well to be and that lesson has stuck and been passed down.

Posted by: traye at December 11, 2015 12:06 PM (StSl7)

94 I know this is going to stir up a hornets nest, but Trump was pushing an Assault Weapons ban just a few years ago in addition to mandatory federal waiting periods.

Donald Trump

"but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun."

The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102

Posted by: Coolio at December 11, 2015 12:06 PM (MA8Bf)

95 Tonight, on "Eye on Springfield": just miles from your doorstep, hundreds of men are given weapons and trained to kill. The government calls it the "army", but a more alarmist name would be The Killbot Factory.

Posted by: Kent Brockman at December 11, 2015 12:07 PM (ppaKI)

96 77 The brits have this bizarre idea that allowing Trump in will antagonize the "moderate" muslims. LOL

Check out the comments -- darwin award in action:

http://hurryupharry.org/2015/12/11/the-last-trump/
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 11, 2015 12:04 PM (iQIUe)

It's not idle speculation for those poor motherfuckers. RIP Lee Rigby

Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 11, 2015 12:07 PM (xuouz)

97 90 The photo that Drudge has up right now of the Felonious Scankles is absolutely perfect.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 11, 2015 12:06 PM (wtvvX)

All 4 of the butchered American heroes from Benghazi are screaming in unison that she is lying about never saying a video caused the attack.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 12:07 PM (uhkms)

98 besides assault rifles we are going to need anti tank and claymores and RPGs to take on a tyrannical governement

Posted by: bubba at December 11, 2015 12:08 PM (Y6XuZ)

99 So what exactly is the evil scary black thing that goes up? And how did it become a thing?

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 11, 2015 12:08 PM (FQKBL)

100 How, well, maddening that the Hollywood "reporter" so casually mentions sudden violence coming "from the gun culture."

Uh, no, that's not where the sudden violence is coming from. But yet another example of how leftist narrative infects and restricts critical thought.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at December 11, 2015 12:08 PM (eytER)

101 94 I know this is going to stir up a hornets nest, but Trump was pushing an Assault Weapons ban just a few years ago in addition to mandatory federal waiting periods.

Donald Trump

"but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun."

The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102
Posted by: Coolio at December 11, 2015 12:06 PM (MA8Bf)

It's not what he's running on.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amendment-rights

Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 11, 2015 12:09 PM (xuouz)

102 So what exactly is the evil scary black thing that goes up? And how did it become a thing?

Wire folding stock on an AK47?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 11, 2015 12:10 PM (5YE4e)

103
70 And beets. It's inhuman to force anyone to eat beets.
Posted by: kathysaysso at December 11, 2015 12:02 PM (fMQoG)
.................

When I was in Australia they were putting them on hamburgers.

Posted by: wth at December 11, 2015 12:10 PM (HgMAr)

104
Wow, awesome interview. He owns that guy!

And you are right, remaining calm and cool is the way to do it.

Posted by: dan-O at December 11, 2015 12:10 PM (ByqK7)

105 I know this is going to stir up a hornets nest, but Trump was pushing an Assault Weapons ban just a few years ago in addition to mandatory federal waiting periods.

Meh. I really believe he doesn't put a lot of thought into things that haven't heretofore effected him. Which might, oddly, make him more reliable for us in that he will go with whats popular among his voters.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at December 11, 2015 12:11 PM (evdj2)

106 It's not what he's running on.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amendment-rights

IOW, he did what everyone prayed Carson would do. Evolve.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 11, 2015 12:11 PM (5YE4e)

107
You want to ban food, start with green-bean casserole. I wouldn't give that shit to death row inmates.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 11, 2015 12:01 PM (ppaKI)

Tuna casserole. Hot tuna casserole. Made with Tuna Helper.

Mother Poppins was a lovely woman, but a terrible cook.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 11, 2015 12:11 PM (X6fMO)

108 All 4 of the butchered American heroes' FAMILIE from Benghazi are screaming in unison that she is lying about never saying a video caused the attack.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 12:12 PM (uhkms)

109 So what exactly is the evil scary black thing that goes up? And how did it become a thing?
----------------------

Flip-up sights. Without them, the weapon could not kill anyone. We need to ban flip-up sights.

I may be wrong about this.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 11, 2015 12:12 PM (9mTYi)

110 99 So what exactly is the evil scary black thing that goes up? And how did it become a thing?
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 11, 2015 12:08 PM (FQKBL)

Anita Hill talking about Long Dong Silver?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 12:12 PM (uhkms)

111 102 So what exactly is the evil scary black thing that goes up? And how did it become a thing?

That would be my wife's dick, and you don't want to know.

Posted by: Barry O at December 11, 2015 12:12 PM (KNycr)

112 When I was in Australia they were putting them on hamburgers.

They eat Vegemite down there too. Tough people.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 11, 2015 12:13 PM (ppaKI)

113 70 And beets. It's inhuman to force anyone to eat beets.
Posted by: kathysaysso at December 11, 2015 12:02 PM (fMQoG)

Mine own lovely lady made borscht the other day. She was feeling her Russian heritage. And because she's on a health kick, she made vegetarian borscht.

What resulted was a hearty vegetable side dish with the color properties of an industrial red dye pretending to be my entire lunch.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 11, 2015 12:13 PM (xuouz)

114 Grieving mothers, apparently, no longer have absolute moral authority.

Posted by: Chupacabra at December 11, 2015 12:13 PM (CGjum)

115 So what exactly is the evil scary black thing that goes up? And how did it become a thing?

It was during an interview with Carolyn McCarthy, who wants to ban all the things. She was going off about all the deadly features on an assault weapon that no one "needs."

So the person interviewing her asked about barrel shrouds and why they were banned. She had to admit that she had no idea what one is:

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Carlson: In February, you introduced the Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2007. It would regulate semi-automatic assault weapons, including weapons that have pistol grips, a forward grip and something called a barrel shroud. Weapons with a barrel shroud would be regulated. What is a barrel shroud and why should we regulate it?

McCarthy: I think the more important thing is that it also would have banned the large capacity clips that Colin Ferguson had used and also the killer. But we are talking about.

Carlson: OK. But I read the legislation. I'm sorry. I read the legislation and it said that it would regulate barrel shrouds. What is a barrel shroud? And why should we regulate that?

McCarthy: The guns that were chosen back in those days were basically the gun that most gangs and criminal were using to kill our police officers. I'm not saying it was the best bill. But that was the best bill they could get out...

Carlson: Do you know what a barrel shroud is?

McCarthy: I actually don't know what a barrel shroud is.

Carlson: Oh, OK. Because it is in your legislation.

McCarthy: I believe it is a shoulder thing that goes up.

Carlson: No, it's not.
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Her answer:

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at December 11, 2015 12:13 PM (eytER)

116 107 Tuna casserole. Hot tuna casserole. Made with Tuna Helper.

Mother Poppins was a lovely woman, but a terrible cook.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 11, 2015 12:11 PM (X6fMO)

Big fan of Hot Tuna - the band, that is.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 12:14 PM (uhkms)

117
So what exactly is the evil scary black thing that goes up?

Ask Long Dong Silver.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 11, 2015 12:14 PM (X6fMO)

118 Mr. Russel is unsafe and makes me bafearful.

Posted by: U of Missou Snowflake at December 11, 2015 12:14 PM (Jj/2n)

119 117 Ask Long Dong Silver.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 11, 2015 12:14 PM (X6fMO)

Beat you by that much.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 12:15 PM (uhkms)

120 Vegemite is disgusting. As gross as Bovril which the Brits seem to think is the cats meow. Gross.

Posted by: IC at December 11, 2015 12:15 PM (a0IVu)

121 "Beats? Only with a stick no bigger than your thumb."

Posted by: Dear Ahmad at December 11, 2015 12:15 PM (8pwh7)

122 IOW, he did what everyone prayed Carson would do. Evolve.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 11, 2015 12:11 PM (5YE4e)

I can't say I think he's a "starve the beast" conservative with grand designs to roll back the progressive agenda dating to Wilson, but it does look like he's focused on common sense changes and simplification (look at his tax code plan) and that's a start.

Cultural power IS political power, and he's taking the fight to the clerics of culture like we have never seen.

I really hope they don't kill him.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 11, 2015 12:15 PM (xuouz)

123 66 You want to ban food, start with green-bean casserole. I wouldn't give that shit to death row inmates.

--

So for last thanksgiving, I challenged kiddo to plan the menu.
So she goes online and ... "Mooom, what's a casserole?"
"I don't get it. It makes NO sense!"

Posted by: votermom at December 11, 2015 12:15 PM (cbfNE)

124 Sweet, now I can buy a phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range!

Posted by: Wyatt at December 11, 2015 12:16 PM (Agn5J)

125
By the way, the Hungarian word "tuna" is one that Ace would not like.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 12:16 PM (uhkms)

126 I just know I have "non-gun" friends and they think an assault rifle is a military M-16 or an Ak-47. When that term first came into the language, people saw a black scary looking gun and just assumed it was military machine guns.

Now more people realize an "assault rifle" is basically a catch all term that could mean a 100 year old rifle.

Assault rifle has a simple, technical definition.

You're thinking of the political gumby term of "assault weapon". That's the term that means whatever the left wants it to mean.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 11, 2015 12:17 PM (jhqr1)

127 Mrs. Chupacabra's three best dishes:

Stuffing
Green Bean Casserole
Red Velvet Cupcakes

I don't know how anyone couldn't like any of those dishes. And no, it's not my love clouding my judgement.

Posted by: Chupacabra at December 11, 2015 12:17 PM (CGjum)

128 It was during an interview with Carolyn McCarthy, who wants to ban all the things. She was going off about all the deadly features on an assault weapon that no one "needs."

Shorter interview: #WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 11, 2015 12:17 PM (LUgeY)

129 120 Vegemite is disgusting. As gross as Bovril which the Brits seem to think is the cats meow. Gross.
Posted by: IC at December 11, 2015 12:15 PM (a0IVu)

Bovril quite literally IS the cat's "meow."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 12:17 PM (uhkms)

130 I remember a movie I saw back in college called Hot Tuna Helper. Had a very happy ending, as I recall.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 11, 2015 12:17 PM (ppaKI)

131 >>Big fan of Hot Tuna - the band, that is.

Love me some Electric Hot Tuna.

Jorma and Jack get it done, proper.

Posted by: Garrett at December 11, 2015 12:17 PM (93LO+)

132 John Wayne Gacy's last meal

http://tinyurl.com/hnxhgry

*damn I'm hungry now

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 11, 2015 12:18 PM (fWAjv)

133 "McCarthy: I actually don't know what a barrel shroud is.

Carlson: Oh, OK. Because it is in your legislation.

McCarthy: I believe it is a shoulder thing that goes up."

Best and brightest, folks......

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 11, 2015 12:18 PM (LA7Cm)

134 Big fan of Hot Tuna - the band, that is.

Yes, because we need more ten-hour concerts. :/

Posted by: Wyatt at December 11, 2015 12:18 PM (Agn5J)

135
I like beets, but I love "ah-beetz," capisce?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 12:18 PM (uhkms)

136 god damnit, this was in a thread like yesterday or the day before, but what the hell is WASTF again?

Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 11, 2015 12:18 PM (xuouz)

137 Sweet, now I can buy a phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range!

I want the one with the 40 giga-watt auto multi-loader in green!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 11, 2015 12:19 PM (5YE4e)

138 134 Big fan of Hot Tuna - the band, that is.

Yes, because we need more ten-hour concerts. :/
Posted by: Wyatt at December 11, 2015 12:18 PM (Agn5J)

Best definition of the Grateful Dead: "They're like the Special Olympics of rock and roll. Takes them 5 times as long, but it means so much more."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 12:19 PM (uhkms)

139 127 Mrs. Chupacabra's three best dishes:

Stuffing
Green Bean Casserole
Red Velvet Cupcakes

I don't know how anyone couldn't like any of those dishes. And no, it's not my love clouding my judgement.
Posted by: Chupacabra at December 11, 2015 12:17 PM (CGjum)

The difference is in her preparation. The differences between different families' definition of stuffing are as broad as the differences between soup and salad.

Obviously Citizen Cake's dear mother had a different specialty than green bean casserole.

Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 11, 2015 12:20 PM (xuouz)

140 Best definition of the Grateful Dead: "They're like the Special Olympics of rock and roll. Takes them 5 times as long, but it means so much more."

Well, if you were high enough, how would you notice?

Posted by: Wyatt at December 11, 2015 12:20 PM (Agn5J)

141 I testified on Capitol Hill all about things that go up.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at December 11, 2015 12:20 PM (Jj/2n)

142 "Beat you by that much."

Over/under on how long before someone deposits that hanging curve in the fountains at Kauffman Stadium?

Posted by: teej at December 11, 2015 12:20 PM (HddOg)

143
Okay, I have to get back to faking work.

Later!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 12:21 PM (uhkms)

144 When I first saw Vegemite I thought it was axle grease.

Posted by: wth at December 11, 2015 12:21 PM (HgMAr)

145 136 god damnit, this was in a thread like yesterday or the day before, but what the hell is WASTF again?

Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 11, 2015 12:18 PM (xuouz)

We Are So Thoroughly/Totally Fucked

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 11, 2015 12:21 PM (fWAjv)

146 140 Well, if you were high enough, how would you notice?
Posted by: Wyatt at December 11, 2015 12:20 PM (Agn5J)

Aside from maybe 4 or 5 tunes, I am NOT a fan of the Dead at all.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 12:22 PM (uhkms)

147 John Wayne Gacy's last meal

A little Italian?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 11, 2015 12:22 PM (LUgeY)

148 True. Mrs. Chupacabra uses fresh bread and breakfast sausage, and I know that's way out of the norm.

Posted by: Chupacabra at December 11, 2015 12:22 PM (CGjum)

149 What resulted was a hearty vegetable side dish with the color properties of an industrial red dye pretending to be my entire lunch.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 11, 2015 12:13 PM (xuouz)

Borscht and Taco Bell have the exact same effect on me. But both are tasty.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 11, 2015 12:22 PM (vgIRn)

150 Donald Trump

"but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun."

The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102
Posted by: Coolio at December 11, 2015 12:06 PM (MA8Bf)

It's not what he's running on.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amendment-rights
Posted by: Ghost of kari

__________________

And Cruz is no longer running on doubling immigration visas.

I don't know why Trump gets such a pass on these things but if any other candidate made such a declaration about guns, conservatives would be screaming they couldn't be trusted and were just as bad as the Democrats.

Maybe Trump is now "our whore" but he is a whore that says what he thinks people want to hear at that moment. I don't trust whores.

Posted by: Coolio at December 11, 2015 12:22 PM (MA8Bf)

151 I finally finished reading comments in the morning thread. What else we got...?

Holy cow!

* goes looking for bacon *

Posted by: mindful webworker - I give up at December 11, 2015 12:23 PM (ATv6t)

152 Obviously Citizen Cake's dear mother had a different specialty than green bean casserole.

It was actually my grandmother. She had a thing for casseroles. Her salmon casserole was likewise ghastly. Kind of put me off casseroles for life.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 11, 2015 12:24 PM (ppaKI)

153 @150

FWIW I saw where Donald Trump Jr. is an avid shooter and may have educated dad since that book came out. If so, more power to him.

Posted by: Jollyroger at December 11, 2015 12:24 PM (t06LC)

154 We Are So Thoroughly/Totally Fucked
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 11, 2015 12:21 PM (fWAjv)

Duhhhhh, thanks.

I'm an optimist! And/or stupid!

Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 11, 2015 12:24 PM (xuouz)

155 Gun thread becomes food thread in under 200 comments.

Posted by: That guy who always says... at December 11, 2015 12:25 PM (Jj/2n)

156 150 Maybe Trump is now "our whore" but he is a whore that says what he thinks people want to hear at that moment. I don't trust whores.

Posted by: Coolio at December 11, 2015 12:22 PM (MA8Bf)

You miss the point of Trump. I support the effect he is having on the entire process and the system. And no matter what he says or writes, I trust him considerably more than any Democrat and the majority of the GOP.

Cruz is my guy, but Trump is just stomping all over the place and peeing in everyone's face. Good.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 12:25 PM (uhkms)

157 "Carlson: Oh, OK. Because it is in your legislation.

McCarthy: I believe it is a shoulder thing that goes up."

Best and brightest, folks......"

My husband died in the LIRR shooting. That means you can't criticize me or disagree with my ideas. Why do you hate widows?

Posted by: Carolyn McCarthy. at December 11, 2015 12:25 PM (OD2ni)

158 155 Gun thread becomes food thread in under 200 comments.
Posted by: That guy who always says... at December 11, 2015 12:25 PM (Jj/2n)
***
Split the difference:

Hunting thread, with game recipes

Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at December 11, 2015 12:26 PM (Wu2k4)

159 I'm an optimist! And/or stupid!

I'm a natural born cynic. Borne of experience, that is.

BBL. Y'all try and behave.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 11, 2015 12:27 PM (LUgeY)

160 >>Yes, because we need more ten-hour concerts.

I had a friend who was a Taper back in the late 70s. Bay Area guy. Recorded everything.
He showed up to tape a Hot Tuna show, at an airfield, in 77 and forgot to bring his Mic Stands.
He spent the duration of each song standing on top of a folding chair with his arms out over his head, as wide as he could get them, to record the show.
Afterwards, Jorma and Jack had him brought backstage to apologize for stretching out every song in the set to see if he could keep his arms up for the whole tune.

Posted by: Garrett at December 11, 2015 12:27 PM (93LO+)

161 In Aceworld, gun threads become food threads while non-gun threads become gun threads.

Posted by: Chupacabra at December 11, 2015 12:27 PM (CGjum)

162
Gun thread becomes food thread in under 200 comments.
Posted by: That guy who always says... at December 11, 2015 12:25 PM (Jj/2n)
..................

Should be switching to boobehs any minute...

Posted by: wth at December 11, 2015 12:28 PM (HgMAr)

163 Milo is gonna have some heads exploding

I like faggot because my fellow butt pirates have insisted on 'reclaiming' the word queer to make it inoffensive-the slimy, preening bastards. I also like faggot because it's the go-to slur used by image boards, where identity politics is considered quite literally worse than AIDS. Which of course it is: what's not to love about all that attention and weight loss.

http://tinyurl.com/prp6n5m

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 11, 2015 12:29 PM (fWAjv)

164 Gun thread becomes food thread in under 200 comments.
Posted by: That guy who always says... at December 11, 2015 12:25 PM (Jj/2n)
..................

Should be switching to boobehs any minute...
Posted by: wth at December 11, 2015 12:28 PM (HgMAr)
***
And then, back to guns, because of the "thing that goes up"

Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at December 11, 2015 12:29 PM (Wu2k4)

165 157 My husband died in the LIRR shooting. That means you can't criticize me or disagree with my ideas. Why do you hate widows?
Posted by: Carolyn McCarthy. at December 11, 2015 12:25 PM (OD2ni)

With all due respect to Carolyn McCarthy, maybe if New York allowed concealed carry, Colin Ferguson would have assumed room temperature before he could have killed your husband and all the others, or at the least would have thought twice about shooting up the LIRR in the first place.

At this stage, she's become a mind-numbed zombie an useful idiot of the left. I think she needs to be challenged with this, her feelings be damned. A good rhetorical (or otherwise) slap in the face is what people like her need.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 12:29 PM (uhkms)

166 And then back to food, because it'll be sammich time.

Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at December 11, 2015 12:30 PM (Wu2k4)

167 Maybe Trump is now "our whore" but he is a whore that says what he thinks people want to hear at that moment. I don't trust whores.

Posted by: Coolio at December 11, 2015 12:22 PM (MA8Bf)

Jesus did.

That's not purely a flippant response. If we believe that the constitution can actually serve as a blueprint for a free and open society, we can't hold one another accountable for past sins, real or perceived. People's minds can change, and they're going to have to, because things cannot carry on as they have. There can't be purity tests for that.

Donald in the white house is not the end-point for Trump supporters. He is not our Obama, secretly harboring each point of the conservative agenda, fully formed, to implement in secret once he's in the white house.

He's just this guy, you know?

Posted by: Ghost of kari at December 11, 2015 12:30 PM (xuouz)

168 Nothing wrong with the Grateful Dead.

...until Pigpen died.

After that, increasingly hit and miss until Jerry died.

Posted by: Garrett at December 11, 2015 12:30 PM (93LO+)

169 "Assault Rifle": a military fire arm which can select the rate of fire; single shot, multi - shot, full automatic, without manually moving the bolt action to chamber another round. This rifle will chamber a round and shoot as fast as it can fire a round.

For a civilian to privately own such a weapon, would require a Class III license (which has been the law since the 1930's, I believe), and is deucedly hard and expensive to get.
Some people have them. Some organizations have them and allow private citizens to shoot them on private property as recreation (and it would be fun, but expensive).

Civilians can buy semi-automatic rifles and pistols, which can also chamber a round from a magazine without the shooter manually moving a bolt, or cocking the hammer. It does not have a selective rate of fire. It can only fire as fast as the shooter can pull the trigger for a single shot. An M-1, AR-15, Colt .45 ACP (and its many clones), Beretta, Browning, Glock 9 mm, and on, and on, and on.

A bolt action or lever action rifle is not a semi-automatic, although these sorts of rifles have been used by the military in the past (and bolt action rifles are still used today by snipers, etc.).

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at December 11, 2015 12:31 PM (RFeQD)

170 You miss the point of Trump. I support the effect he is having on the entire process and the system. And no matter what he says or writes, I trust him considerably more than any Democrat and the majority of the GOP.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

______________

I like the Overton Window effect of Trump specifically on the issue of immigration, but I'm not willing to nominate him over that alone.

If Trump was a consistent conservative like say Ted Cruz, I could overlook his other problems.

But Trump was saying as late as 2004 he identified more as a Democrat and was slamming Romney on his harshness of "self-deportation" in 2012.

I just think the guy has no core and is simply conning his way into being our nominee for purposes of ego. i don't believe he really cares all that much about the issues he's pushing, he would drop them tomorrow if he thought it would help him

Posted by: Coolio at December 11, 2015 12:31 PM (MA8Bf)

171
By the way, it would be one thing if McCarthy sucked on the 2nd Amendment, but she votes in lock-step with every other destructive crackpot Leftist legislation.

Be there some Republican on Long Island who can run against her? Considering everything going on, at least it would be an emetic.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 12:33 PM (uhkms)

172 Someone needs to build a chain of gun ranges/hamburger joints. The smell of cordite always gives me the munchies.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 11, 2015 12:33 PM (ppaKI)

173 Should be switching to boobehs any minute...

Posted by: wth at December 11, 2015 12:28 PM (HgMAr)

Benk covered that in his dump.

Posted by: tbodie at December 11, 2015 12:34 PM (mndtc)

174 170 Posted by: Coolio at December 11, 2015 12:31 PM (MA8Bf)

If he did, considering the frenzy that most Americans and his supporters are in about what has happened to the nation, it would be PR suicide for Trump.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 12:34 PM (uhkms)

175 172 Someone needs to build a chain of gun ranges/hamburger joints. The smell of cordite always gives me the munchies.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 11, 2015 12:33 PM (ppaKI)
***
make it a gentleman's club, and you've got a hat-trick:

Buns 'n' Guns.

'Shooters"

Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at December 11, 2015 12:35 PM (Wu2k4)

176 75 Looking forward to the next scary thing they call semi-auto rifles.

Posted by: Chupacabra

"Babykillers" would be good but they used that one up on Viet Nam veterans. Man are they kicking themselves over that one. That's the problem with liberals, no foresight. Unfortunately they also ruined it for us to use on PP.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at December 11, 2015 12:35 PM (kfcYC)

177 I just think the guy has no core and is simply conning his way into being our nominee for purposes of ego. i don't believe he really cares all that much about the issues he's pushing, he would drop them tomorrow if he thought it would help him

So, just like Obama?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 11, 2015 12:36 PM (TtorR)

178 Whatever an "assault weapon" is.

Posted by: Random Thought Generator at December 11, 2015 12:37 PM (wLLbf)

179 If he did, considering the frenzy that most Americans and his supporters are in about what has happened to the nation, it would be PR suicide for Trump.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

_________________

Here's the problem, if he gets the nomination, he can go off the reservation as much as he wants.

I really have no doubt if were the nominee, you would basically have 99% of the conservative agenda thrown out the window over night, except for the border stuff. (hopefully)

I mean the guy is still advocating Universal health care and how great it works. I guarantee you he's going to try and outbid Democrats on free shit like student loans, infrastructure, school spending, etc.

Posted by: Coolio at December 11, 2015 12:39 PM (MA8Bf)

180 175 172 Someone needs to build a chain of gun ranges/hamburger joints. The smell of cordite always gives me the munchies.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 11, 2015 12:33 PM (ppaKI)
***
make it a gentleman's club, and you've got a hat-trick:

Buns 'n' Guns.

'Shooters"

We fry our french fries in 100% gun oil!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 11, 2015 12:39 PM (TtorR)

181 172 Someone needs to build a chain of gun ranges/hamburger joints. The smell of cordite always gives me the munchies.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 11, 2015 12:33 PM (ppaKI)

SharpShooter's in St. Louis

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 11, 2015 12:40 PM (fWAjv)

182 And if you chew a Pop Tart into the shape of a gun, it fits into both of the themes of this thread!

It will also get you expelled from school.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 11, 2015 12:40 PM (u0lmX)

183 Ronald Reagan, among others, was a Democrat during his formative years as an adult (and even a Union president!!) . Even as President, he would wax lyrical about FDR and the New Deal. Sometimes I thought he was being slightly sarcastic and condescending when he talked like that, but he didn't call me and tell me what he really thought.

FDR's New Deal meant a lot to people in those days (even if it was largely an economic and political mistake), because the country was in hard times, and the New Deal showed that the government "cared". It was fascism, which was much in vogue in the 1930's, but it was not some jack-booted, ass kicking, Jew-burning type of fascism. They just locked up the Japs in America.

I think Trump and a lot of "former Democrats" (like that guy from Texas that was governor, Rick Perry) have a notion about how government should work "for the people" to show them that it "cares".
Ultimately, I think people start to realize just how tyrannical even a caring, sharing democracy can stifle liberty. I think that's where Trump is today.

I saw him on CSPAN a few years ago at CPAC, and it was all his boilerplate ramblings, and the crown didn't know quite what to make of him. But I think he (and others), have realized just what a tyrannical demogogue Obama actually was, and really what dangerous situation we were slipping into.
And now, here we are.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at December 11, 2015 12:43 PM (RFeQD)

184 180 175 172 Someone needs to build a chain of gun ranges/hamburger joints. The smell of cordite always gives me the munchies.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 11, 2015 12:33 PM (ppaKI)
***
make it a gentleman's club, and you've got a hat-trick:

Buns 'n' Guns.

'Shooters"

We fry our french fries in 100% gun oil!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 11, 2015 12:39 PM (TtorR)
****
Save the oil for the girls, man!

Cosmolene Wrestling.....

Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at December 11, 2015 12:44 PM (Wu2k4)

185 I loathe the term "assault weapon" to start

Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2015 12:45 PM (k0xxN)

186 So a caller is using #RushLimbaugh as iPhone tech support.

Posted by: votermom at December 11, 2015 12:48 PM (cbfNE)

187 I mean the guy is still advocating Universal health
care and how great it works. I guarantee you he's going to try and
outbid Democrats on free shit like student loans, infrastructure, school
spending, etc.

Posted by: Coolio

I heard him with my own ears speak on the TV last summer, and that's not quite what he said.
1) repeal Obamacare, which made my wife excited and say ""Yes!!"
2) Let insurance companies (really GREAT insurance companies) take care of most people's needs.

I have read what he said about Universal Health care a few years ago, and briefly, he said, If we can make it work, we can try that.

I think that Trump is a nationalist, populist, and a political empiricist. He is not a conservative in philosophy, but is willing to listen to people if he thinks their ideas work.
And that's better than most of what we are being offered by most of the candidates. 4 more years of Obama II, Hillary Bugaloo! will change this country beyond repair.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at December 11, 2015 12:50 PM (RFeQD)

188 182 And if you chew a Pop Tart into the shape of a gun, it fits into both of the themes of this thread!

It will also get you expelled from school.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 11, 2015 12:40 PM (u0lmX)

But bringing in a half-assed bomb look-alike will get you a trip to the White House.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 11, 2015 01:01 PM (oKE6c)

189 Russell is solid. Was in Gunsmoke twice as a kid. Still, not one dime of mine will go near that Tarantino *bleep*. He has entered the Michael Moore column.

Posted by: OneIronMacGuffin at December 11, 2015 01:02 PM (NjX7M)

190 I saw Kurt Russell when I was a kid and he was a kid in some animal parade. He was riding an elephant. LOL

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 11, 2015 01:09 PM (iQIUe)

191 You mean Vegemite is a real thing?

Posted by: Da Funk at December 11, 2015 01:35 PM (FFb4n)

192 Now maybe we can repeal that National Firearms Act of 1934.

Posted by: brando at December 11, 2015 02:20 PM (Kkrxr)

193 Obama does one thing well...

Sell guns!

(whether to the USA or drug cartels!)

Posted by: G Money at December 11, 2015 08:57 PM (okm+k)

194 This poll must be giving Hill the willies. Watch for her to change tack and claim she never was anti-gun, that was just the fog of war (whore?).

Posted by: bruce at December 11, 2015 10:14 PM (M+/pj)

195 " saw Kurt Russell when I was a kid and he was a kid in some animal parade. He was riding an elephant. LOL"

Wasn't that Micky Dolenz?

Posted by: bruce at December 11, 2015 10:15 PM (M+/pj)

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