Pentagon To Open All Combat Jobs to Women In Historic, Fundamentally Transforming Change

Defense Secretary Ash Carter will order the military to open up all combat jobs to women.
The Associated Press reported on Thursday Carter is giving the armed services until Jan. 1 to submit plans to make the historic change.
Carter's official aonnouncement is expected later Thursday.
It rebuffs arguments from the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman that the Marine Corps should be allowed to exclude women from certain front-line combat jobs, citing studies showing that mixed-gender units aren't as capable as all-male units.

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Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 03, 2015 12:26 PM (qCMvj)

2
Don't worry everyone, the adults are in charge.

Posted by: dan-O at December 03, 2015 12:26 PM (ByqK7)

3 Of course they have opened up all combat positions to women. What better way to further undermine the military.

Posted by: elmore leonard at December 03, 2015 12:26 PM (00RJf)

4 But then, leftists assume the US military will never see combat, so it's all good.

Posted by: Methos at December 03, 2015 12:27 PM (ZbV+0)

5 Right on!

Can't wait for the "rape epidemic" to soar after this move.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 12:27 PM (AkOaV)

6 Lets go for a walk in the woods and forget about the cares of the world

Posted by: Bear at December 03, 2015 12:27 PM (TxJGV)

7 But only if we can pay them 70% of a man's salary... amirite?!?

Posted by: Brock O'bama at December 03, 2015 12:27 PM (eDWZG)

8 What about trannies?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 03, 2015 12:27 PM (l3vZN)

9 This country is in the very best of hands.

Posted by: OregonMuse at December 03, 2015 12:27 PM (Zmat4)

10 They already have a male on male rape epidemic.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 03, 2015 12:28 PM (8y0hk)

11 Are they mandatory? Sure, you wanted to be a fileclerk but no, 11B for you!

Posted by: Grump928(c) speaks equine at December 03, 2015 12:28 PM (evdj2)

12 Segregate the units.

Deploy the all-female units to the rear echelon as reserve units.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at December 03, 2015 12:28 PM (eytER)

13 Da Zero sure is serious about national security. Or not.

Posted by: maddogg at December 03, 2015 12:28 PM (xWW96)

14 Don't worry folks, it might look like the world is falling apart, but we elites know just what to do to cure what ails ya. We're gonna weaken the military in the name of equality! See! The West is saved!

Posted by: Lord Gulgoth at December 03, 2015 12:28 PM (bWvOd)

15 4 But then, leftists assume the US military will never see combat, so it's all good.
Posted by: Methos at December 03, 2015 12:27 PM (ZbV+0)

Not even combat. When women go in to mens "safe spaces" (or vice versa) it turns in to a shitshow. The guys all try to bang the one (or two) chicks and that causes all kinds of shit.

The girl dated John first, then broke up because he cheated on her, now shes dating Steve and all of a sudden there's all kinds of sexual tension and bullshit and unit cohesion goes way down.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 12:28 PM (AkOaV)

16 The media will LOVE photos of women dying in combat and missing limbs.

The narrative will write itself...

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 03, 2015 12:28 PM (AC0lD)

17 Guess they'll have to bring back the draft too, once Hillary is Commander in Chief.

Posted by: Danube River Guide at December 03, 2015 12:28 PM (mcm0N)

18 Was there ever any doubt?

Posted by: pep at December 03, 2015 12:28 PM (GMG6W)

19 This will not end well for the armed services or America.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at December 03, 2015 12:28 PM (9JJgN)

20 New thread.

Ratcheting up the pain.

Posted by: JEM at December 03, 2015 12:29 PM (o+SC1)

21 Foxes in Foxholes. Yeah US!!!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 03, 2015 12:29 PM (u82oZ)

22 What does Fenelon think about this?

Actually, I'vm curious to hear the opinion of SMFH and ThunderB on this since both are ettes who have served

Posted by: L, Elle at December 03, 2015 12:29 PM (2x3L+)

23 artisanal 'ette for the win (with content too!)

Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2015 12:29 PM (TxJGV)

24 Ugh, can't wait to hear how this affects tiny submarines that have always been men-only.

And kiss the excellence of the Navy SEALs goodbye.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2015 12:29 PM (NOIQH)

25 6 Lets go for a walk in the woods and forget about the cares of the world

Posted by: Bear at December 03, 2015 12:27 PM (TxJGV)

No way, I'm not falling for that one again.

Posted by: the rabbit with bear poo on his fur at December 03, 2015 12:29 PM (Zmat4)

26 8 What about trannies?
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 03, 2015 12:27 PM (l3vZN)

In all honesty, trannies would probably be less of a problem since there would be way less of a chance of sexual competition going on between the men trying to bang xer.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 12:29 PM (AkOaV)

27 But then, leftists assume ~~the US military~~ they will never see combat, so it's all good.

Posted by: pep at December 03, 2015 12:29 PM (GMG6W)

28 Oh, for f*ck's sake. As if the week couldn't get any worse.

So, I guess all the Special Snowflake Princesses will be registering for the draft?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2015 12:29 PM (FsuaD)

29 Oh, and for the safety of the women, just drop tactical nukes.

It also cuts down on the greenhouse gas emissions of all of those military vehicles. A few planes and you're done....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at December 03, 2015 12:30 PM (AC0lD)

30 One of these days some of our soldiers will get captured by the Russians or Chinese, and they are going to just laugh.

Posted by: Blano at December 03, 2015 12:30 PM (rkBpl)

31 Because we all saw yesterday that women are quite capable of attacking things!

Posted by: the Hussein Clown Posse at December 03, 2015 12:30 PM (VO5mN)

Posted by: pep at December 03, 2015 12:30 PM (GMG6W)

33 Ash always looks sleepy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 03, 2015 12:30 PM (FkBIv)

34 I got nuthin.

Posted by: eleven at December 03, 2015 12:30 PM (rjtGa)

35 I am really getting tired of the rank stupidity of Obama's administration.

Posted by: Reno_Dave at December 03, 2015 12:30 PM (n6gHv)

36 With our glorious leaders putting this bold plan into action, we can move forward with the utmost confidence that a full defeat of ISIS is near.

Posted by: Lord Gulgoth at December 03, 2015 12:30 PM (bWvOd)

37 >>The media will LOVE photos of women dying in combat and missing limbs.

Just wait 'till they become ISIS prisoners.
Woohoo, equality!!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2015 12:30 PM (NOIQH)

38 13 more months.

Posted by: Grump928(c) speaks equine at December 03, 2015 12:30 PM (evdj2)

39
FULL EQUALITY NOW!!!

Mandatory female registration for Selective Service at 18 yrs of age, same as men.

Oh, that's not an option? So you really DON'T care about equality, hmmm? That's interesting.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 03, 2015 12:31 PM (gwpf+)

40 i don't find this awful as long as the required testing for endurance, strength etc remain intact, and we remain a vounteer service army etc.

and perhaps rules of conduct for fraternizing within your units.

looks over my shoulder to see who i pissed off.

Posted by: willow at December 03, 2015 12:31 PM (YvRAm)

41 So... I look forward to hearing about all young women having to register with the Selective Service.

Posted by: Chupacabra at December 03, 2015 12:31 PM (W2YA6)

42 Combat Boots by Jimmy Choo.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 03, 2015 12:31 PM (8y0hk)

43 The suicide of the West continues unabated.

Posted by: maddogg at December 03, 2015 12:31 PM (xWW96)

44 NOW, they real war n women begins.

Posted by: Dustoff at December 03, 2015 12:31 PM (7UMow)

45 ooh just wait till the jihadi animals get a hold of a female POW. And we thought beheading videos were bad!

Posted by: weew at December 03, 2015 12:31 PM (EaEMG)

46 Just wait 'till they become ISIS prisoners.
Woohoo, equality!!

First thing I thought.

Posted by: eleven at December 03, 2015 12:32 PM (rjtGa)

47 Women love putting on makeup, so they'll love putting on face camo for combat.

Posted by: the Hussein Clown Posse at December 03, 2015 12:32 PM (VO5mN)

48 Do women in the military actually want this?

Posted by: L, Elle at December 03, 2015 12:32 PM (2x3L+)

49 President trump is going to have to fire a lot of people.

Including Obama's idiot generals.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at December 03, 2015 12:32 PM (YdHbr)

50

CNN BREAKING: Farook was in touch with more than one international terrorism subjects -@evanperez

-- Vaughn Sterling (@vplus) December 3, 2015

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 03, 2015 12:32 PM (qCMvj)

51 >> The media will LOVE photos of women dying in combat and
>> missing limbs.

Who's the Dem rep in IL where a Dem faction is trying to push her out of the Senate race because black trumps paraplegic Asian female vet in the race-grievance world?

Posted by: JEM at December 03, 2015 12:32 PM (o+SC1)

52 24
Ugh, can't wait to hear how this affects tiny submarines that have always been men-only.

There has already been a "scandal" on a nuke sub out of King's Bay here. Shockingly, male sailors were caught taking pictures of nekkid female sailors.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2015 12:32 PM (FsuaD)

53 Announce this on a Thursday the day after a terror attack and give the military the holiday season to enact it. Yes that doesn't smack of trying to cover it up at all.

Posted by: SomeSay the Strawmarian at December 03, 2015 12:32 PM (eodwX)

54 In unrelated news, US is seen as increasingly irrelevant as military power.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 03, 2015 12:32 PM (Qvgg/)

55 i don't find this awful as long as the required testing for endurance, strength etc remain intact, and we remain a vounteer service army etc.

and perhaps rules of conduct for fraternizing within your units.

looks over my shoulder to see who i pissed off.

Posted by: willow at December 03, 2015 12:31 PM (YvRAm)

Yeah, like that's gonna happen.

Posted by: Blano at December 03, 2015 12:32 PM (rkBpl)

56 But remember, we've reached peak Leftism.

Or so I keep hearing.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 03, 2015 12:32 PM (Wckf4)

57 Hell Week is going to be drawn down to Hell Half Hour at Coronado.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 03, 2015 12:32 PM (fWAjv)

58 Breaking News on CNN. Male shooter apparently radicalized.

That must have hurt to admit.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2015 12:32 PM (/tuJf)

59 First Gulf War I think there were a couple of female pilot POWs.

Posted by: Danube River Guide at December 03, 2015 12:32 PM (mcm0N)

60 13 more months.

Posted by: Grump928(c) speaks equine at December 03, 2015 12:30 PM

So, you really think Heb! or Shrillery will rescind this order, huh?

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 03, 2015 12:33 PM (dbC6X)

61 ooh just wait till the jihadi animals get a hold of a female POW.

They'll make goat rape look tame.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2015 12:33 PM (FZxI4)

62 Posted by: willow at December 03, 2015 12:31 PM (YvRAm)

I don't see how you get around the problem of having, say 20 men and 2 women -- all in their late teens / early 20s -- (or whatever) living together day in and day out. Especially in forward operating bases, and other area where there aren't too many other women.

I don't see how that doesn't become a big issue.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 12:33 PM (AkOaV)

63 What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: The Chairman Of The Bored at December 03, 2015 12:33 PM (NVddU)

64 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 12:28 PM (AkOaV)

Don't forget the fact that pregnancy makes one non-deployable. I literally have had a female tell me she was going to get pregnant so she wouldn't have to deploy. I've also had troops get sent back to CONUS because they got pregnant while in-country.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 03, 2015 12:33 PM (8Y7+f)

65 Aren't the Joint Chiefs all poofters now?

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 03, 2015 12:33 PM (8y0hk)

66 Hmm. A hard left nutjob (got his start "proving" missile defense couldn't work...yeah) lording over the DoD.

This will end well.

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at December 03, 2015 12:33 PM (h6BP/)

67 Funny how selectively the left listens to the "if it only saves one life" argument. Thankfully, this will result in relatively few deaths immediately, as our military is less engaged at the moment. I shudder to think about our next major conflict, however.

Posted by: Grimaldi at December 03, 2015 12:33 PM (31AgX)

68 It rebuffs arguments from the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman that the
Marine Corps should be allowed to exclude women from certain front-line
combat jobs, citing studies showing that mixed-gender units aren't as
capable as all-male units.

The Obama stooges trashed that report the day it was released.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at December 03, 2015 12:33 PM (t2KH5)

69 But they still have to qualify first? So will this really have much impact? IIRC, there was a group of 11 that tried to qualify for some unit in the marines. Only 2 survived the first day, and then they subsequently dropped out of the program.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at December 03, 2015 12:33 PM (E5UB0)

70 And standards will almost certainly be lowered in order to facilitate this idiotic plan, which will end up costing lives unnecessarily.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 03, 2015 12:33 PM (kpqmD)

71 So, you really think Heb! or Shrillery will rescind this order, huh?

President Trump will.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2015 12:33 PM (FZxI4)

72 When the bombs fall and the bullets fly young women get pregnant. Smart thing to do. Don't worry. Obama can't clean house but he can draw chalk around the bodies.

Posted by: Manly Man at December 03, 2015 12:33 PM (Bbcs8)

73 'Nuts to butts' ought to be a real hoot from now on.

Posted by: DIs Everywhere at December 03, 2015 12:34 PM (Iwn52)

74 Just another part of his project to destroy the US before he leaves office. But impeachment is off the table.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at December 03, 2015 12:34 PM (t2KH5)

75 Instead of ISIS beheading videos we will get kidnapped women soldiers being gang raped videos

Posted by: L, Elle at December 03, 2015 12:34 PM (2x3L+)

76
The left won't be satisfied until some GI Jane is captured, tortured and raped, all on video, so they can have an excuse to ramp up their decimation of the armed services.

The next president ought to bring back zombie Chesty Puller and fire every officer above the rank of sergeant.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 03, 2015 12:34 PM (X6fMO)

77 To put everyone on an equal footing, they should force the male recruits to wear high heels and then do the comparisons.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at December 03, 2015 12:34 PM (E5UB0)

78 Barry and Mooch should make it a photo op when Princess Malia gets her Selective Service card. Woot!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2015 12:34 PM (FsuaD)

79 The Obama stooges trashed that report the day it was released

Trash the report. See how reality trashes them.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2015 12:34 PM (FZxI4)

80 ***"and perhaps rules of conduct for fraternizing within your units."***

Umm, those already exist. And they're broken all the time.

I offer the shitshow of existing mixed-gender units for your inspection.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 03, 2015 12:35 PM (Wckf4)

81
Don't forget the fact that pregnancy makes one non-deployable. I literally have had a female tell me she was going to get pregnant so she wouldn't have to deploy. I've also had troops get sent back to CONUS because they got pregnant while in-country.

I know females that went back home on leave with the intention of getting their husbands to knock them up so they didn't have to come back.

Posted by: SomeSay the Strawmarian at December 03, 2015 12:35 PM (eodwX)

82 >>i don't find this awful as long as the required testing for endurance, strength etc remain intact, and we remain a vounteer service army etc.

willow, of course they will lower the physical standard.

The two women who recently became Marines were given extra training and IIRC, were allowed to retake certain parts of the physical test until they passed. I was never a question whether or not they would get in, only what they had to do to make it happen.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2015 12:35 PM (NOIQH)

83 So GI Jane in the front lines bring me a sammich now

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 03, 2015 12:35 PM (n22zQ)

84 It's time to have a National Discussion about Impeachment.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 03, 2015 12:35 PM (9mTYi)

85 58 Breaking News on CNN. Male shooter apparently radicalized.

That must have hurt to admit.

*************

This story is bugging the hell out of me, can't even tell you how -other than it feels like we are missing something pretty big from the puzzle.

Posted by: Danube River Guide at December 03, 2015 12:35 PM (mcm0N)

86 Would you put women in the front line of a football team?

No.

Why, then, should they be in the front line of battle? Protecting my nation is a bit more important than protecting an end zone.

Posted by: RKae at December 03, 2015 12:35 PM (HiSOA)

87 i don't find this awful as long as the required testing for endurance, strength etc remain intact, and we remain a vounteer service army etc.

and perhaps rules of conduct for fraternizing within your units.

looks over my shoulder to see who i pissed off.
Posted by: willow at December 03, 2015 12:31 PM (YvRAm)

I agree, but the problem is, they are dummying down the requirements. If you can't carry your fellow soldier and gear (men included), then you are pretty worthless.

Imagine the draft instituted when Obama's girls are of age.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 03, 2015 12:35 PM (qCMvj)

88 26 8 What about trannies?
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 03, 2015 12:27 PM (l3vZN)

In all honesty, trannies would probably be less of a problem since there would be way less of a chance of sexual competition going on between the men trying to bang xer.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 12:29 PM (AkOaV)

Just lie back and think of ~~England~~ Thailand.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 03, 2015 12:35 PM (kpqmD)

89 "Posted by: the Hussein Clown Posse"

Heh. Nice.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 03, 2015 12:35 PM (LA7Cm)

90
Bwahahahahahaha

Posted by: Vlad at December 03, 2015 12:35 PM (9mTYi)

91 Most of the women in the Army back in the 90's seemed to be pregnant.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 03, 2015 12:36 PM (8y0hk)

92 Hell yeahs. Let's make women our front line troops in the war against terrah.

Posted by: Hank at December 03, 2015 12:36 PM (aIt1F)

93 74 Just another part of his project to destroy the US before he leaves office. But impeachment is off the table.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at December 03, 2015 12:34

Vic, most of the GOPe thinks impeachment is a fruit

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 03, 2015 12:36 PM (n22zQ)

94 69 But they still have to qualify first? So will this really have much impact? IIRC, there was a group of 11 that tried to qualify for some unit in the marines. Only 2 survived the first day, and then they subsequently dropped out of the program.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at December 03, 2015 12:33 PM (E5UB0)

Alter the qualifications

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 03, 2015 12:36 PM (fWAjv)

95
Do women in the military actually want this?

Posted by: L, Elle at December 03, 2015 12:32 PM (2x3L+)

The ticket-punching REMF type fobbit commissioned officer women, yes, because this is all about getting rank for female officers, not enlisted.

The actual patriot warrior women, I suspect not.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 03, 2015 12:36 PM (gwpf+)

96 Despite the fact that their own studies showed that this worsened unit performance.

But who cares? EQUALITY!

Also, we shouldn't care because Obama plans on having Russian and Iran take care of middle east no matter what happens. (Seriously guys, read the link in my sig! I think it was willow? who recommended it yesterday you absolutely MUST read it)

Posted by: Lauren at December 03, 2015 12:36 PM (Z/8dZ)

97 77 To put everyone on an equal footing, they should force the male recruits to wear high heels and then do the comparisons.
--------------------------------------------------

Already happened.

http://mil-com.me/21yBWnE

Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2015 12:36 PM (TxJGV)

98
Double leg amputees are sexy.

Posted by: Chuck Schumer at December 03, 2015 12:36 PM (HgMAr)

99 I'd like to think that anyone, male or female, would have to be able to perform the required tasks at a minimum level for acceptance, but we all know the rules will be 'bent', meaning there will be no standards anymore. Say goodbye to a capable military.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 03, 2015 12:36 PM (Qvgg/)

100 this is an intentional degradation of combat efficiency, and therefore it is a violation of the sworn oath for any officer to comply.

In fact, officers should arrest any and all politicians involved in this sabotage.

Posted by: Grad School Fool at December 03, 2015 12:36 PM (A9KzJ)

101 And THIS is why my son and so many others didn't re-up.

And he loved the Corps and misses it.

Obama: Fundamentally destroying the greatest military on earth.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2015 12:36 PM (FsuaD)

102 Breaking News on CNN. Male shooter apparently radicalized.

That must have hurt to admit.

yep, they just acknowledged international terrorist connections

it's over

we wont' see obama again on this

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 03, 2015 12:36 PM (qCMvj)

103 Because the most important thing is that we get our virtue signalling in, right Ash? Like the boss said, we don't want to talk about something as crude as "winning."

Posted by: Komissar Vladimir at December 03, 2015 12:36 PM (7NboP)

104 And having women on the front lines in an actual shooting war won't be a problem either.

I guess that ship sailed when DADT was repealed and suddenly men became half of the sexual assault victims in the military.

If they're serious about this equality nonsense, can we at least subject women to the draft? Our country has gone half-assed on "equality" for decades now. Women are 57% of college graduates. We need some affirmative action for dudes.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 03, 2015 12:36 PM (Xd2w5)

105 ***"i don't find this awful as long as the required testing for endurance, strength etc remain intact, and we remain a vounteer service army etc."***

Aaaand I might add that the argument is not only about which women can physically cut the mustard. It's about how sexual dynamics among young people really fvck up operational dynamics in the military. That was the whole issue with gays in the military, but we're too far through the looking glass on that one.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 03, 2015 12:37 PM (Wckf4)

106 Consider the recent news about one of the female applicants at NYFD.

She had been made a firefighter thanks to political and legal pressure despite her having repeatedly failed to pass the physical testing. (And they lowered the bar several times to try to get her to pass.)

She now turns out to have lasted only a couple of days as a firefighter before being injured, and moved to desk work.

It'll work the same way in the armed forces. Bet on it.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 03, 2015 12:37 PM (noWW6)

107 >>Instead of ISIS beheading videos we will get kidnapped women soldiers being gang raped videos

The young gal who was captured by ISIS in Syria was Bagdadi's sex slave. Not that the media wanted that part to get out.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2015 12:37 PM (NOIQH)

108 Good luck with that.

Posted by: aka.john at December 03, 2015 12:37 PM (4b826)

109 64 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 12:28 PM (AkOaV)

Don't forget the fact that pregnancy makes one non-deployable. I literally have had a female tell me she was going to get pregnant so she wouldn't have to deploy. I've also had troops get sent back to CONUS because they got pregnant while in-country.
Posted by: Country Singer at December 03, 2015 12:33 PM (8Y7+f)

**********

Well in the Navy.......nevermind.

Posted by: Danube River Guide at December 03, 2015 12:37 PM (mcm0N)

110 who recommended it yesterday you absolutely MUST read it)
Posted by: Lauren at December 03, 2015 12:36 PM (Z/8dZ)

*raises hand* (too?)

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 03, 2015 12:38 PM (qCMvj)

111
It was an early morning go, landing at a forward operating base south of Tay Ninh during a difficult combat operation. (1967) There were numerous (40?) ponchos lined up beside the dirt runway tied at the head and feet. The air was very still and the humidity was very high. Flies by the thousands were circling and landing on the ponchos which contained bodies of dead American soldiers.

They remained in the open for hours, and during one of our gunship attack missions they disappeared. Upon return, the flies were still landing on the ground where the bodies previously laid.

This was disconcerting enough knowing the young men in the bags were American dead, but if they had been dead females, it would have been a much different situation.

I am personally against any female being involved in any combat operation, and this primarily due to the images that remain in my head of men without heads, limbs, etc., or those lucky enough to still be alive but who suffered very traumatic injuries.

Those advocating for this measure have never been involved in any combat routine, and if they had been combatants, they would never advocate for allowing any female to suffer the indignity of massive and debilitating wounds to advance someone's political agenda.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 03, 2015 12:38 PM (OiFtZ)

112 56 But remember, we've reached peak Leftism.

Or so I keep hearing.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 03, 2015 12:32 PM (Wckf4)

We'll be telling each other that as they herd us onto the trains.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at December 03, 2015 12:38 PM (u0lmX)

113 I wonder if Kristin Beck post-op would be capable at performing at the same level. "Warrior princess". These people are xo xilly.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at December 03, 2015 12:38 PM (E5UB0)

114 >>This story is bugging the hell out of me, can't even tell you how -other than it feels like we are missing something pretty big from the puzzle.

I mentioned this last thread. The Tsnarnev's used RC remote controllers to detonate their bombs at the Boston Marathon. They claimed they learned how to use them and how to build bombs from the al Qaeda magazine Inspire.

Farook had bombs and RC remote controllers as well.

He also had a vehicle with Utah plates.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2015 12:39 PM (/tuJf)

115
The media will LOVE photos of women dying in combat and
>> missing limbs.

Who's the Dem rep in IL where a Dem faction is trying to push her out of the Senate race because black trumps paraplegic Asian female vet in the race-grievance world?

Posted by: JEM at December 03, 2015 12:32 PM (o+SC1)

Tammy Duckworth

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 03, 2015 12:39 PM (gwpf+)

116
Vic, most of the GOPe thinks impeachment is a fruit
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
.........................

At least they didn't mistake it for a vegetable, right?

Posted by: wth at December 03, 2015 12:39 PM (HgMAr)

117 >

****

well hey, we all know that equality > capability, am I right?

Posted by: Vyce at December 03, 2015 12:39 PM (h4ZaE)

118 Oh, for f*ck's sake. As if the week couldn't get any worse.

So, I guess all the Special Snowflake Princesses will be registering for the draft?

I can't wait to watch Lena Dunham, Chelsea Clinton, and Amanda Marcotte drop into Syria to fix everything

Posted by: Methos at December 03, 2015 12:39 PM (ZbV+0)

119 Go long on Bewb Armor Futures.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 03, 2015 12:39 PM (8y0hk)

120 Double leg amputees are sexy.

Posted by: Chuck Schumer

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There's a word for that!

"Acrotomophilia!"

Posted by: RKae at December 03, 2015 12:39 PM (HiSOA)

121

...but the Israeli army is the bomb

(they are kept separate, I believe)...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 03, 2015 12:39 PM (qCMvj)

122 Umm, those already exist. And they're broken all the time.

I offer the shitshow of existing mixed-gender units for your inspection.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 03, 2015 12:35 PM (Wckf4)

Yeah. My girlfriends aunt was in the army. She had horror stories of how she was treated by the men in her unit.

And by that, I mean they all hit on her. Including the guys who were married. The wives of the married men in her unit all hated her (because they all suspected their husbands of cheating on them with her). There was all kinds of drama. Oh, and apparently the army requires females to inject themselves in the thigh with hormonal birth control once a month so there is no chance of them getting pregnant.

And yet, it still happens.

Another friend of mine who was stationed in Afghanistan told me that several women over there were actually prostitutes. As in, were charging horny men $50 a pop to have sex. Of course, that caused alllll kinds of issues as well.

It's not the fault of women, I just -- I don't know, I don't see how this does anything other than create huge headaches for the officers trying to deal with a bunch of horny 20 year old men and a handful of 20 year old women.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 12:39 PM (AkOaV)

123 Shouldn't they be worried about women suffering workplace violence? What about rape? After all, men are violent and rapey as all get out.

This will put many more women at risk, based on their own claims.

Consistency of thought ain't their strong suit.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 03, 2015 12:39 PM (gyKtp)

124 Instead of ISIS beheading videos we will get kidnapped women soldiers being gang raped videos

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I was assuming this was the intent of the current regime. Then, they can tell us the only answer is to surrender.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 03, 2015 12:39 PM (Qvgg/)

125 "i don't find this awful as long as the required testing for endurance, strength etc remain intact"

Which of course it will not.

They'll water down the testing, because they will have to. Otherwise, insufficient numbers of female applicants will pass the tests, and Congress will breathe down the necks of the brass until the pass rate goes up.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 03, 2015 12:40 PM (noWW6)

126 " And standards will almost certainly be lowered in order to facilitate this idiotic plan, which will end up costing lives unnecessarily. "

Yup.

Posted by: "Dirty Harry" Callahan at December 03, 2015 12:40 PM (LA7Cm)

127 Maybe technology will make this all a big nothingburger. If most "troops" are, say, drones or robots in the future, it won't matter if those controlling them are women or men.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at December 03, 2015 12:40 PM (E5UB0)

128 113 I wonder if Kristin Beck post-op would be capable at performing at the same level. "Warrior princess". These people are xo xilly.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at December 03, 2015 12:38 PM (E5UB0)

That the SEAL?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 03, 2015 12:40 PM (fWAjv)

129 Military: Sir, (x) will lead to a loss of cohesion and effectiveness of our military.

Pres'nt Obama: Excellent. Let's go ahead and (x).

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 03, 2015 12:40 PM (VAsIq)

130 Actually, I'vm curious to hear the opinion of SMFH and ThunderB on this since both are ettes who have served

Posted by: L, Elle

Me, too.

Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at December 03, 2015 12:40 PM (/Ho8c)

131 well hey, we all know that equality > capability, am I right?
Posted by: Vyce at December 03, 2015 12:39 PM (h4ZaE)

trying equate strength is silly
old argument...
*yawn

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 03, 2015 12:40 PM (qCMvj)

132 Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2015 12:39 PM (/tuJf)

I believe the article in question was called, "How to Make a Bomb in the Kitchen of your Mom"

Which I always thought was kind of funny.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 12:41 PM (AkOaV)

133 Now we just need a CiC with the stones to undo the last 8 years of SJW nonsense in our military (and elsewhere).

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 03, 2015 12:41 PM (IN7k+)

134 Yeah but Demi Moore was a great soldier in GI Jane!!!!!! I saw it in the movies!!!
So there. /s

We are so terminally fucked.

Posted by: LGoPs at December 03, 2015 12:41 PM (vMpKJ)

135 I guess we are just going to have to wait a while for that 155mm shell to get loaded then aren't we? Good thing there is never a rush on that sort of thing.

Posted by: Thatch at December 03, 2015 12:41 PM (pBZp4)

136 I'd like to think that anyone, male or female, would
have to be able to perform the required tasks at a minimum level for
acceptance....

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 03, 2015 12:36 PM

Hell, we'd ALL like to think that.

I'd also like to think we have a patriotic Congress that would give Choom Boy and the rest of his mentally-defective pals the bum's rush and -- perhaps -- start this country on the long road to recovery.

But hey, that's just me.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 03, 2015 12:41 PM (dbC6X)

137 120 Double leg amputees are sexy.

Posted by: Chuck Schumer

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There's a word for that!

"Acrotomophilia!"
Posted by: RKae at December 03, 2015 12:39 PM (HiSOA)

I bet there's an ICD10 code for that. Where's Muldoon at?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 03, 2015 12:41 PM (kpqmD)

138 If they're serious about this equality nonsense, can we at least subject women to the draft?

Or better yet, subject nobody to the draft.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 03, 2015 12:41 PM (FkBIv)

139
yep, they just acknowledged international terrorist connections

it's over

we wont' see obama again on this
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
..........................

Something finally shut him up?

Posted by: wth at December 03, 2015 12:41 PM (HgMAr)

140 Actually, I'vm curious to hear the opinion of SMFH and ThunderB on this since both are ettes who have served

Posted by: L, Elle

Me, too.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at December 03, 2015 12:40 PM (/Ho8c)

first lady fighter pilot (I believe) was on Greta last night - nice, professional, smart woman

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 03, 2015 12:41 PM (qCMvj)

141 78 Barry and Mooch should make it a photo op when Princess Malia gets her Selective Service card. Woot!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2015 12:34 PM (FsuaD)

Wait, do we know for sure that "she" is a "she?" She's built like the Mooch, and I have always had my doubts about Mooch.

Looks a bit like Bruce, if you ask me, although the thought of that broad in a bustier scares me silly.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 03, 2015 12:42 PM (+YMhA)

142 114 >>This story is bugging the hell out of me, can't even tell you how -other than it feels like we are missing something pretty big from the puzzle.

I mentioned this last thread. The Tsnarnev's used RC remote controllers to detonate their bombs at the Boston Marathon. They claimed they learned how to use them and how to build bombs from the al Qaeda magazine Inspire.

Farook had bombs and RC remote controllers as well.

He also had a vehicle with Utah plates.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2015 12:39 PM (/tuJf)

***********

Oh wow--thanks for the info.

I wonder if the Paris bombers blew up the first guy at the stadium by remote.

Posted by: Danube River Guide at December 03, 2015 12:42 PM (mcm0N)

143 Re 58, radicalized in what, hmm?

$1 to the first reporter to ask Obama what ISIL stands for. Make Obama say ....that word!

(Isn't he the only one in the world that still says ISIL..or did he get the nyt to start using it?)

Posted by: Tonic Dog at December 03, 2015 12:42 PM (OM+1t)

144 I think that if women are allowed to serve combat jobs than they should be under the draft as well. I think if they were physically able to do combat jobs then o.k. but I don't think most are.

How does Israel deal with this?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 03, 2015 12:42 PM (No/ki)

145 132 Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2015 12:39 PM (/tuJf)

I believe the article in question was called, "How to Make a Bomb in the Kitchen of your Mom"

Which I always thought was kind of funny.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 12:41 PM (AkOaV)

The pellet with the poison's in the vessel with the pestle.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 03, 2015 12:42 PM (kpqmD)

146 "i don't find this awful as long as the required testing for endurance, strength etc remain intact"

Which of course it will not.

**

they don't care about combat effectiveness.

weirdo lame duck president remains out of touch, seemingly on the other side now.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at December 03, 2015 12:42 PM (YdHbr)

147 Something finally shut him up?
Posted by: wth at December 03, 2015 12:41 PM (HgMAr)

he tossed out his memes this morning: gun control and workplace violence

he won't walk that back

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 03, 2015 12:42 PM (qCMvj)

148 If they really want to be in combat - how about all female combat units? The Amazons did it, allegedly.

Posted by: @votermom at December 03, 2015 12:43 PM (cbfNE)

149 Anyone listening to the presser in San Bernardino?

Twelve pipe bombs in the house, hundreds of tools, other materials to produce more bombs, 2,000 9mm rounds....etc., etc., etc.

Wow, Jihadi Boy sure must have been pissed about the Christmas party.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2015 12:43 PM (FsuaD)

150 It's only fair.

Any consideration regarding the effectiveness of our fighting forces is secondary.

Posted by: Left/Prog/Liberal at December 03, 2015 12:43 PM (9mTYi)

151 Did anyone say Nood yet?

If not, nood.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 03, 2015 12:43 PM (2x3L+)

152
Yeah but Demi Moore was a great soldier in GI Jane!!!!!! I saw it in the movies!!!
So there. /s

We are so terminally fucked.

Posted by: LGoPs at December 03, 2015 12:41 PM (vMpKJ)

We are not! Suck my dick!

Posted by: Demi Moore at December 03, 2015 12:43 PM (gwpf+)

153
i don't find this awful as long as the required testing for endurance,
strength etc remain intact, and we remain a vounteer service army etc.

The vast majority of men are stronger than ALL women. This is awful because physical reality is being ignored in favor of Political Correctness.

http://www.unz.com/gnxp/why-men-should-never-hit-women/

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at December 03, 2015 12:44 PM (1D4Ef)

154 2,000 9mm rounds? Pikers.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 03, 2015 12:44 PM (kpqmD)

155 I am a lady. I have certain skills that I can do better than a man-primary among them, giving birth and breast feeding. I have an amazing husband who is a former Marine officer. He can do certain things that I cannot-among them, fighting on the front lines of a war. I think it is ludicrous to endanger a unit, much less my husband, with a social experiment to make people have happy feels. It's freaking war, not a damn office party. I want my loved one to come home alive, and I want the military to do everything in its power to make sure that happens. Saddling a unit with a less capable soldier, just because she has two X chromosomes, or is transgender, but is not combat ready, and can't pull her weight in battle is murderous to the whole group.

Posted by: Moki at December 03, 2015 12:44 PM (7q2ch)

156 Men and women are physically different.
The differences will negatively impact a lot of these women's performance when they are placed in certain parts of the military, such as the Marines, Rangers, SEALs.

I'm so very tired of the Left forcing us to pretend certain obvious facts are not true.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2015 12:44 PM (NOIQH)

157 I think that if women are allowed to serve combat jobs than they should be under the draft as well. I think if they were physically able to do combat jobs then o.k. but I don't think most are.

How does Israel deal with this?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 03, 2015 12:42 PM (No/ki)

probably common sense

use them to the best of their abilities

if they want to help protect their nation, let them, but use common sense

but, there are those that will lose their minds talking about it...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 03, 2015 12:44 PM (qCMvj)

158 Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 03, 2015 12:43 PM (FsuaD)

But still no idea of motive!!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 03, 2015 12:45 PM (No/ki)

159 Utah plates. Wtf?

Posted by: Danube River Guide at December 03, 2015 12:45 PM (mcm0N)

160 The pellet with the poison's in the vessel with the pestle.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death

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Um... I forget. Was I supposed to get the flagon with the dragon or the chalice from the palace?

Posted by: RKae at December 03, 2015 12:45 PM (HiSOA)

161 97 77 To put everyone on an equal footing, they should force the male recruits to wear high heels and then do the comparisons.
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Already happened.
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And, by the way, this was done at the order of Command, Peggy Combs. It was mandatory. Students were told anyone who didn't participate would get a negative counseling letter in their file.

Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2015 12:45 PM (TxJGV)

162 $1 to the first reporter to ask Obama what ISIL stands for. Make Obama say ....that word!

(Isn't he the only one in the world that still says ISIL..or did he get the nyt to start using it?)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at December 03, 2015 12:42 PM (OM+1t)

Which word? "Levant"?

Surely he couldn't butcher that French word as much as he butchered "Hollande" while standing next to the dude.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 12:45 PM (AkOaV)

163 159 Utah plates. Wtf?
Posted by: Danube River Guide at December 03, 2015 12:45 PM (mcm0N)

I suspect the car was a rental.

It was a new looking SUV with out of state plates.

that would be my guess.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 12:46 PM (AkOaV)

164 Utah plates. Wtf?
Posted by: Danube River Guide

Mormon Jihadi

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 03, 2015 12:46 PM (FkBIv)

165 Women worked out fine in Starship Troopers.

Posted by: jwest at December 03, 2015 12:47 PM (Zs4uk)

166 16 The media will LOVE photos of women dying in combat and missing limbs.

It's part of the overall plan. Make the military ineffective so no future president would ever consider using it. And in the event it is used, make it doubly horrible and push the wounded in the public's face 24/7 until they demand the war's end.

Posted by: despair at December 03, 2015 12:47 PM (VrdxH)

167 Mormon Jihadi

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.

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Goddamned polygamists are all the same.

Posted by: RKae at December 03, 2015 12:47 PM (HiSOA)

168 Maybe technology will make this all a big
nothingburger. If most "troops" are, say, drones or robots in the
future, it won't matter if those controlling them are women or men.
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at December 03, 2015 12:40 PM (E5UB0)

It cannot. Technology fails. Have you never used Windows?!

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at December 03, 2015 12:48 PM (1D4Ef)

169 TOP MEN...

Posted by: Your ObamaNation at December 03, 2015 12:49 PM (nbGZj)

170 nood by the way

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 12:49 PM (AkOaV)

171 Robots and drones as an army is bad because then there's no skin in the game. "Should we go to war?" "Mmmm... Sure. What the heck."

Posted by: RKae at December 03, 2015 12:49 PM (HiSOA)

172 Ash Carter -- the John Kerry of Defense. Spit.

Posted by: gracepc at December 03, 2015 12:50 PM (OU4q6)

173 Thank you, thank you, artisanal 'ette!

Posted by: Lauren at December 03, 2015 12:50 PM (Z/8dZ)

174 I am short of time and can't go dig it up at the moment, but there was an article written by a female Marine officer who had been an accomplished athlete in college, and who then went on to assume USMC combat infantry duties in the sandbox.

Doing all of the heavy work which her male leatherneck grunt counterparts were expected to do. Shirking nothing.

The sheer wear and tear of it, and the brute force exertions required, ended up rendering her incapable of performing her duties, and she now has lasting damage to her health. She had plenty of warrior fire and esprit de corps. It's just that her body could not cope. And this was, again, a woman who was physically tough from the get-go.

I'll find and post a link later.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 03, 2015 12:50 PM (noWW6)

175 That the SEAL?
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA
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Yep. Has the dubious distinction of being even less convincing than Jenner.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at December 03, 2015 12:50 PM (E5UB0)

176 How does Israel deal with this?

I suspect being surrounded by a billion savages that will eat you the moment your guard is down keeps all of them focused.

Posted by: Methos at December 03, 2015 12:51 PM (ZbV+0)

177 And, by the way, this was done at the order of Command, Peggy Combs. It was mandatory. Students were told anyone who didn't participate would get a negative counseling letter in their file.
Posted by: MTF
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People like that with a chip on their shoulder, embittered against their own side, have maturity problems and are unfit for command.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at December 03, 2015 12:52 PM (E5UB0)

178 I got no problem with women doing any job.

If she's capable of doing the job.

I know that too often in civilian jobs, women are put in place solely for the reason of upping diversity numbers and as a legal buffer to EEOC investigation.

The bosses figure the other workers will cover for them.

And they do.

That attitude doesn't work for first responders or the military.

Israel has female soldiers. No problems as such but I'm sure they don't/didn't let them cut corners or fudge the qualifications.

But some women in this country have some kind sense of being owed a position by dint of their sex. And that gender doesn't mean anything as to qualifications.

They're wrong.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 03, 2015 12:52 PM (Xo1Rt)

179 Glass ceiling in the trenches will be shattered.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 03, 2015 12:52 PM (n22zQ)

180 I worked on a flight line for twenty years while a member of Uncle Sam's Aero Club. There were few women who survived out there. Most found a way off the line quickly, but a few did well. They were the exception, not the rule and some standards were changed to accommodate them. I cannot imagine what this will do to a front line infantry unit or even an artillery unit. In fact there are numerous jobs that the majority of women simply cannot do. What the he'll is wrong with these people. In the days of tight defense budgets, why are we gonna waste money on a social experiment that is bound to fail? Our nation's very existence is at stake here.

Posted by: Bill R. at December 03, 2015 12:53 PM (jKUeC)

181 All women units, please!

Then, if we win, great! But if we lose, we can say, "Big deal, you guys beat a bunch of girls!"

Posted by: Deafdog at December 03, 2015 12:54 PM (tMb67)

182 *click-clack, click-clack, CLACK *

Posted by: The ratchet at December 03, 2015 12:55 PM (9YDUz)

183 Reminds me of when the Marines changed the Physical Fitness Test requirements for women because they had it too easy. But then they had to change the men's too since it would have completely screwed the promotion rate for women.

Old requirements for men: 3mi run, pullups, crunches in 2mins.

Old requirements for women: 1.5mi run, flexed arm hang (which, byt the way, is fvcking ridiculous), crunches in two minutes.

New for men: 3mi run, dead-hang pull-ups (removed the old "kip" move that used to be allowed, making male scores drop significantly on average), crunches in two minutes.

New for women: 3mi run, flexed arm hang, crunches in two minutes.

The problem is that the scored times for the 3mi run were offset by 3 minutes for the women. For men, the allowable times were 18-28 mins. For women - 21-31 minutes.

And why were women allowed to continue the flexed arm hang? Because the vast majority of women, even with training, cannot manage one dead hang pullup, let alone the 3 required for a man in order to just pass.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 03, 2015 12:58 PM (Wckf4)

184 This is my shocked face.

:- |

"Fundamental transformation" continues apace.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 03, 2015 12:58 PM (3rnjd)

185 This is what happens when the president is a narcissist who has deluded himself into thinking that he is competent. So are they going to lower standards in the marines and special ops to magically find women who can do the required chin ups, or lifting?

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 03, 2015 12:58 PM (kGrwF)

186 The Israelis tried it in the '70s and it didn't work. The women couldn't pull their weight; and the men became overprotective of the women to the point of insubordination, staying with wounded women and the like when the squad was supposed to keep on moving.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 03, 2015 12:59 PM (xodPA)

187 Obama offers #Thoughts & Prayers to the victims of the San Bernardino Workplace Jihad

Posted by: Just to rub it in the faces of Republicans at December 03, 2015 12:59 PM (nbGZj)

188 #186 I should add "tried it on an experimental basis" not to the entire army.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 03, 2015 12:59 PM (xodPA)

189 At least all-male units will get to enjoy having all the women drop out of formation runs and conditioning hikes by the first quarter mile like mixed gender units do.

Because Equality!

Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 03, 2015 01:01 PM (Wckf4)

190 Nood "unaffiliated" shooters press conference post up.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 03, 2015 01:02 PM (xodPA)

191 I'll be in my bunk...

Posted by: The Rest Of the Squadron at December 03, 2015 01:02 PM (nbGZj)

192 189 At least all-male units will get to enjoy having all the women drop out of formation runs and conditioning hikes by the first quarter mile like mixed gender units do.

Because Equality!
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 03, 2015 01:01 PM (Wckf4)

Or they'll lower the standards of the exercises to the point where a lot of women can complete them.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 03, 2015 01:03 PM (kGrwF)

193 Will the war now have bathroom breaks?

Posted by: nick at December 03, 2015 01:06 PM (VIP+M)

194 (facepalm)
The really painful part is they are dragging out the process of disintegration. It's like being bludgeoned to death with a bag of packing pellets.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at December 03, 2015 01:09 PM (gjGXC)

195 HIV spreads well because it takes a long time to kill its host.
Ebola on the other hand tends to self-limit because it announces itself so dramatically and kills off the host too quickly.
Bernie Sanders is Ebola.
Obama and most Democrats are HIV.
Which is more dangerous?

Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at December 03, 2015 01:09 PM (k8tEg)

196 Oh and I mean that with all due respect to the Office of President.

Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at December 03, 2015 01:11 PM (k8tEg)

197 Just like in the 90s when women were allowed to go to sea on ships, women will now have an even harder time advancing in the rate without combat experience. This happened during the Clinton years...if you wanted to advance in a highly competitive rate that included the possibility of sea time and you didn't want to go to sea (women with small children, for example), that counted against you when up for advancement. Those with certain awards and pins would get extra points and would advance to E-5, E-6 or chief over women with the same amount of time (or longer) in rank with better test scores or PT scores.

So get ready for women to not advance and to be stuck in lesser ranks for longer periods time. Equality!

Posted by: K-E at December 03, 2015 01:12 PM (EdBH4)

198 Fine. It's crazy, but fine.

Just require women to start registering for Selective Service. And watch the fun begin!

Posted by: Brown Line at December 03, 2015 01:16 PM (zcbZo)

199 So far three female officers have passed the Ranger course.

No female enlisted soldiers have been reported as passing.

Was ever eligible female officer or enlisted soldier in the entire Army examined to get this result?

Posted by: goatweed at December 03, 2015 01:24 PM (CBcnm)

200 Finally, FINALLY I can achieve my dream of becoming a US Marine!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 03, 2015 01:38 PM (wFZ+6)

201 Our enemies must be trembling in fear.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 03, 2015 01:39 PM (KCQo0)

202 Idiots. This HAS BEEN TRIED. IT DOES NOT WORK.

The Russians tried it (women on the front lines) in WW II. The Israelis tried it during the first Arab-Israeli war. In both cases they found it was a BAD idea. For one thing, women did not have the physical stamina needed. Second, it was really bad for morale overall, because like it or not, men tend to be protective of the women around them, and get emotionally attached to them. Doesn't mean they were banging them, either. Then when the females would get shot, blown up, captured and raped half to death (the Muslims were, of course, real big on this), it really FUBARed the men's morale on the front line. The whole concept was a disaster, and both the Russians and Israelis soon withdrew the women from frontline duty, and it has remained so ever since. And for a good goddam reason.

But this is what happens when you have spoiled, none-to-bright children in charge. Think about it. Women in SUBMARINES? That is fucking insane. Ever been in a submarine? To say that "space is at a premium" is the wildest of understatements. I had an old submariner tell me years ago that "everything you say and do on a sub is said and done in front of the entire crew, because there is NO privacy". Even the newest subs we have today are little better in terms of room than the old WW II era submarines. I've been in one of those, and how they got 80 or 90 guys shoehorned into those things and sent them to sea for a couple of months without them all going batshit crazy I'll never know. Only in the Age of Obama...

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at December 03, 2015 01:40 PM (AYY6Y)

203 Sarta de Pendejos. Stupids fucks.

Posted by: ... at December 03, 2015 01:47 PM (fscqy)

204 Fine. Let's require all women to register for the draft, then. After all, fair is fair. And equality is equality.

Posted by: Bill Quick at December 03, 2015 02:03 PM (4WboX)

205 Deserves a flaming female skull.

Posted by: Captain Oblivious at December 03, 2015 02:04 PM (hiT/m)

206 I want to hear the Repub candidates say the will rescind this.

Posted by: Captain Oblivious at December 03, 2015 02:05 PM (hiT/m)

207 "What about trannies?"
jinx the cat

Our enemy will take one look at our 1st Cav tranny brigade and TREMBLE WITH FEAR!!!

(or sh!t themselves laughing)

Posted by: Bodo Fraggins at December 03, 2015 02:23 PM (F8CD3)

208 The latest attempt to dilute the Muslim terror story, and distract the opposition.
I think they have long line of these sorts of "announcements" and initiatives for whenever the news cycle sucks to be them.

Posted by: We drove him to it at December 03, 2015 02:23 PM (k8tEg)

209 Of course, this means women will now register for the Selective Service at 18 yo .. right ?

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 03, 2015 02:27 PM (KOaTi)

210 They don't want 'combat-ready' units, they want politically correct units. Under Obama, we have no intentions of fighting a real war, so what difference does it make?

Posted by: daveclay at December 03, 2015 02:33 PM (osx1V)

211 Thanks amigo!

Posted by: Jihadi at December 03, 2015 02:34 PM (aA0Sj)

212 My observation is that even the most dedicated and fit woman can struggle just on exercises for a long time let alone on ops. Make those ops mission orientated and if they (women) are in a teeth arms unit, most if not all will physically break down. Maybe one outstanding individual can hack it, but pretty much all the females cannot perform at the level required. Females can and do make excellent soliders in the correct role. Combat roles just are not one of them. The US infantry may now have a yuuuge problem. Fight back.

Posted by: NZ Frank at December 03, 2015 02:48 PM (bgJ0E)

213 Late to thread...

the destruction of the US Military, continues.

Posted by: BB Wolf at December 03, 2015 02:49 PM (qh617)

214 An all female combat unit would be hell on wheels ... four days a month.

Posted by: Old Tom at December 03, 2015 03:26 PM (r8Pbh)

215 Even later, The military shouldn't be a lefty experiment but it is. All one needs to know is it the left's goal to weaken the military.

Posted by: Skip at December 03, 2015 03:32 PM (E8oTQ)

216 I'm for separate but equal armed forces. Let the women have their own Army, Navy, Air Force. Joint operations will be a Mardi Gras! The brass is counting on the men to take up the slack for the women, again. I remember the first woman Naval aviator the PC crowd crowed about - flew her multi-million dollar tax-payer owned jet into the front of an aircraft carrier -BOOM! Women and combat are for marriages, not wars.

Posted by: twolaneflash at December 03, 2015 05:13 PM (WR9zX)

217 Welcome to the party ladies. Selective Service draft registration is over there.

Posted by: k at December 03, 2015 08:08 PM (6aqR0)

218 OK. So, upon deployment, we shoot all the women - in the foot, or some such - and go on to fight the actual war.

Posted by: Patrick Carroll at December 03, 2015 10:28 PM (1zS3A)

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