Just A Thought...[CBD]

If the Colorado Springs shooter (who sounds like a lunatic) entered the Planned Parenthood clinic/abattoir and began shooting out of a window at people outside PP, wasn't his intent to kill everyone but PP staff and customers?

So this guy could just as easily be described as a PP supporter and protector.....

And Open Thread.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 05:38 PM

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1 Possibly first!

About to turn on die hard and have a drink since my Holiday socializing is all done..

Posted by: Lea at November 28, 2015 05:40 PM (vmMMi)

2 First!

Posted by: Yo! at November 28, 2015 05:40 PM (u9+TN)

3 Hello?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 05:42 PM (9mTYi)

4 Yeah, doesn't a religious nut that attacks a PP office kill PP people? Everyone he shot was outside the building.

Don't spoil the narrative/fundraising with logic here.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 28, 2015 05:42 PM (jJRIy)

5 maybe, cbd, on the PP guy, who knows.

what i do get frustrated with is that groups keep having to apologize for one mentally ill guy.

any group. when they run in twos or threes maybe they/we have more of a case to argue.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 05:43 PM (jOumW)

6 HELLO!

Gotta shout everyone's in a turkey sammich coma.

Posted by: DaveA at November 28, 2015 05:43 PM (DL2i+)

7
SAY HELLO TO MY LEETLE FREND!!!1!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwzItSEOUD0

Eh, probably inappropriate. I do feel horrible for the people who were murdered.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at November 28, 2015 05:43 PM (iQIUe)

8 Hello?
Posted by: Mike Hammer,

hello, back.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 05:43 PM (jOumW)

9 It's a great day to stay inside in Houston . Don't feel like I'm missing anything. Stuffed my face with leftovers and watching my favorite educational program, Aerial America.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at November 28, 2015 05:44 PM (+Q9b4)

10 Howdy!

Posted by: Beth M at November 28, 2015 05:45 PM (9SaqA)

11 First Jar Jar and now ET. I guess they'll just let anydamnbody be a Jedi.

Posted by: freaked at November 28, 2015 05:45 PM (BO/km)

12 Local paper, I am in NC, sent a guy up to mt to film the "Cabin" the guy lived in. story in link. Just look at the picture and read the bullet points.

See any stupid? Maybe reporters have never seen an electrical box?

http://tinyurl.com/ppckwd6

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 28, 2015 05:46 PM (jJRIy)

13 scarface?

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 05:46 PM (jOumW)

14 Btw, making fun of people who fight over tvs is poor shaming! And probably also racist. Because washpo never met anyone of the poor and well behaved variety...

i would post the link (which might be old actually) but pixy.

Posted by: Lea at November 28, 2015 05:47 PM (vmMMi)

15 The important thing as far as PP is concerned is....

How can we profit off of this?

Pretty sure they've got the fundraising e-mail ready for Cyber Monday for all their SJW fan girls and bois.

Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at November 28, 2015 05:47 PM (PeoNT)

16
Hmm. Listening to UNC vs. NC State.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 05:47 PM (9mTYi)

17 PP might use this guys mug shot with a caption,

wouldn't his parents have been better off if they had aborted him?

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 28, 2015 05:48 PM (jJRIy)

18 Lea i have found old movies on youtube.
really old late 40s early fifties. it's helping to keep me from smoking an exhaust pipe.

though they couldn't act very well and story lines are odd, i find the furnishings, the clothing, the etiquette, speech and conversations fascinating.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 05:49 PM (jOumW)

19 How can we profit off of this?
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Easily. Supply and demand: "We're sorry to announce that the price of slaughtered baby parts will have to increase, on account of temporary supply setbacks."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 05:49 PM (9mTYi)

20 16

Hmm. Listening to UNC vs. NC State.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 05:47 PM (9mTYi)

It's on TV. State is getting their asses kicked. Off to bar to watch final and drink. Fvck the tar heels

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 28, 2015 05:49 PM (jJRIy)

21 I feel like doing the Dab. *hic*

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at November 28, 2015 05:50 PM (Dwehj)

22 though they couldn't act very well and story lines are odd, i find the furnishings, the clothing, the etiquette, speech and conversations fascinating.
Posted by: willow
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The very reason that I like BBC productions depicting Edwardian and prior times. Also, Victorian era novels.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 05:51 PM (9mTYi)

23 not even going to look up dab.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 05:51 PM (jOumW)

24 19 ~ Mike Hammer

You don't mean.....they're going to charge more for a mammogram? Oh. My. Stars!!!!!

Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at November 28, 2015 05:52 PM (PeoNT)

25 Mike it's very cool, who knew!?

you should have told me, i've been doing it for a few days.
i hope internet never runs out.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 05:52 PM (jOumW)

26 It's on TV. State is getting their asses kicked. Off to bar to watch final and drink. Fvck the tar heels
Posted by: Nip
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But, but... the Wolfpack network is crowing about what a great job NC State is doing.

It's only the half Nip, calm down.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 05:52 PM (9mTYi)

27
A Thanksgiving story:

Yesterday I went to a brunch thrown by two friends (a married couple) who I used to be partners with in a business venture. Around 2001, we had a very bitter falling out but thanks to a buddy of mine, we reconciled a few months ago. One of them has been battling cancer and evidently it has spread to a lymph node near his spine. Despite being in obvious pain, you could see that he made every effort to hang on your every word and to be in the moment with every fibre of his being.

I'm not going to pretend it's not a dire situation, but where there is life there is hope. And I'm very thankful that we did reconcile in the here and now.

For what it's worth.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 28, 2015 05:53 PM (uRmWf)

28 That ET speculation is as compelling a hypothesis as the "Jar-Jar is a Sith" thing.

Posted by: which is to say, not even a little bit at November 28, 2015 05:53 PM (ftJ4J)

29 you should have told me, i've been doing it for a few days.
i hope internet never runs out.
Posted by: willow
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I did. But probably mumbled.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 05:54 PM (9mTYi)

30 @26

You must have time delay, it's the second half. Maybe the karma will change if I go drink. BBL

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 28, 2015 05:54 PM (jJRIy)

31
Full Movies on youtube courtesy of stoaty weasel:

https://goo.gl/HVAUl0

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at November 28, 2015 05:54 PM (iQIUe)

32 Really sounds like a bank robbery gone wrong. PP was a random building he sought shelter in to fire at police. Not politically motivated and the mayor is wrong to ASSUME motive when the investigation has barely even begun! Also, again, we need better mental health laws -- we used to until the Dems changed them in the '70s and made it much more difficult to commit the sick. Ever since we've had more homelessness and violence. But of course, it's the guns...

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 28, 2015 05:54 PM (xetep)

33 Sefton, i agree, letting our and others old wounds heal can be a mitzvah

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 05:55 PM (jOumW)

34 Mike, i might have blamed your cat.
I'll try to pay better attention to that mumbling thingy

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 05:55 PM (jOumW)

35 >>Lea i have found old movies on youtube.

Ilike movies with Cary grant

I watch some movies on you tube but it's hard to sort through them for the good stuff sometimes.

Posted by: Lea at November 28, 2015 05:57 PM (vmMMi)

36 Amen JJ. Something we all should remember.

Hey willow!

Posted by: SMFH at November 28, 2015 05:58 PM (zyIlW)

37 33 Sefton, i agree, letting our and others old wounds heal can be a mitzvah
Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 05:55 PM (jOumW)

It's funny. All I remember are the good times, hard work and fun that we had. You really have to let things go. It's very healing. I just regret being a bitter schmuck about it for almost 14 years. You don't know the meaning of time until there's precious little of it left.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 28, 2015 05:58 PM (uRmWf)

38 If you were performing abortions and in a circle that discusses the positive nature of harvesting organs while enjoying wine and brie, wouldn't you arm yourself?

Posted by: redenzo at November 28, 2015 05:59 PM (WCnJW)

39 {Maybe}Not politically motivated and the mayor is wrong to ASSUME motive when the investigation has barely even begun! .
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 28, 2015 05:54 PM (xetep)

they are doing that a lot lately.
and i do agree we should have better mental health avaliable, as well as drug rehabs ,while it's available it is cost prohibitive for many high risk people.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 05:59 PM (jOumW)

40 E.T. probably was a Jedi.

He could make shit move with his mind and stuff.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 06:00 PM (FVlQW)

41 May the GOPe farce be with you.

Posted by: Jeb!di Knight at November 28, 2015 06:02 PM (B1TZ/)

42 C'mon get a TD Auburn!

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 06:02 PM (vsbNu)

43 Aslan's Girl @ 32- Botched heist!
I agree. Guy tried to score, failed, and ended up running into a PP. Just like Charley Sheen.

Posted by: Eromero at November 28, 2015 06:02 PM (b+df9)

44 Sefton, we all fall for that anger.

I am glad you have had a reconciliation and let eachother be free from the harm it causes.

and good memories are a very nice side affect.

Thanks for telling this. it was a very nice thing. and one day it should be a topic, for many others.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 06:02 PM (jOumW)

45 Has America's Greatest Gun Salesman weighed in on this yet? Or is he still out on the back nine?

Posted by: tu3031 at November 28, 2015 06:02 PM (EDYaR)

46 I had the news on this morning, before my 2 hour run in 3 degree Celcius weather, and was wondering how the guy couldn't kill a bunch of people in the PP building if he was there for 6 hours.

I was listening to hear if there were any PP fatalities, but didn't hear of any. And I'm sure if any were *martyred*, CNN would be showing their heart-wrenching stories hour after hour complete with mourning relatives.

Nice of Obama to further help increase Christmas gun sales though. He's the greatest gun salesman EVER.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 28, 2015 06:03 PM (AC0lD)

47 SMFH! so lovely to see you! miss you . Kisses and Hugs!

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 06:03 PM (jOumW)

48 45
Has America's Greatest Gun Salesman weighed in on this yet? Or is he still out on the back nine?

Posted by: tu3031 at November 28, 2015 06:02 PM (EDYaR)

Yeah, there was a speech. Anger. Indignation. Frustration.

It must be hell to sit in the Oval Office thinking about all of those well armed Americans. Perhaps he'd rather rule somewhere in Europe....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 28, 2015 06:04 PM (AC0lD)

49 . . . and just like that, as if on cue.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 06:04 PM (vsbNu)

50 I already have the holiday blues.
It's two days after Thanksgiving.
Beat the rush, I always say!

Posted by: The Original antisocialist-Accept No Substitutes! at November 28, 2015 06:06 PM (eGr8Z)

51 I've been in that area too many times. Both mom and dad spent time in the rehab center just about 1000 feet from the PP building. I never noticed the PP sign. Maybe they moved there after I quit going to the rehab center. The area south of PP is not developed until you get to the little shopping center. He was probably just looking for a building to get to after he left the shopping center.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 06:07 PM (mUa7N)

52 As I said this morning, it's the 70's movie, 'Dog Day Afternoon' without Al Pacino.

It was a bank robbery. To fund a sex change operation.

The funny thing is, the MSM would have one hell of a time leaping from one meme they love to another meme they'd love even more.

Not impossible for them. Like throwing down the fifth king in a poker game. It might work, but its probably gonna get ugly.

Posted by: free range jihadist at November 28, 2015 06:07 PM (7v/r5)

53 45 Has America's Greatest Gun Salesman weighed in on this yet? Or is he still out on the back nine?
Posted by: tu3031 at November 28, 2015 06:02 PM (EDYaR)

Oh hell, this is tailor made for that cock-sucking psycho.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 28, 2015 06:08 PM (uRmWf)

54 >>Oh hell, this is tailor made for that cock-sucking psycho.

Huh? What?

Posted by: Charlie Sheen at November 28, 2015 06:09 PM (c7vUv)

55 So what you're saying is that Spielberg ripped off my concepts and I should sue his miserable ass into oblivion?

Posted by: George Lucas at November 28, 2015 06:10 PM (B1TZ/)

56 Anything bad that happens at a PP location caused by a third party is like firing a minority. No matter what the thousands of reasons it could be, it will be always be alleged to be only one reason.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at November 28, 2015 06:10 PM (+Q9b4)

57 53 Sure is. On the up side, however, there will be many, many more "evil black rifles" under the Christmas tree this year - including one for me if I've played my cards right...

Posted by: The Original antisocialist-Accept No Substitutes! at November 28, 2015 06:11 PM (eGr8Z)

58 Maybe he'll fail. Maybe everyone's tired of his pissy pants tantrums and will reject his demands for more gun control (though I don't understand how much more could be done) so as to effectively tell him to FCUK OFF!

I am so tired of this POS in Office.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 28, 2015 06:12 PM (Xo1Rt)

59 As I posted yesterday, Obama's statement is contradicted by the fact that there were at least 20 million people last weekend running around with high powered rifles and no one was intentionally shot by any of them.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at November 28, 2015 06:14 PM (+Q9b4)

60 Clinton Cable Network was interviewing the mayor who was pushing the meme if it happened at PP it must be about PP.
I'm wondering if carbon credits ever get hold can they claim millions for killing future humans and lowering the population?

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2015 06:15 PM (XRpjE)

61 It looks like Erdogan may be yielding to Pooty-Poot's heat. I heard a report of him expressing "sadness" over the incident.

Would it be too wrong of me to wish Putin could get some Polonium into Erdogan's tea?

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 28, 2015 06:16 PM (dvuhZ)

62 UNC 42 - 23 over NC State. Somewhere, Nip is crying in his beer, and muttering vulgar imprecations about the Tarheels.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 06:17 PM (9mTYi)

63 Aslan's Girl @ 32- Botched heist!
I agree. Guy tried to score, failed, and ended up running into a PP. Just like Charley Sheen.

Posted by: Eromero at November 28, 2015 06:02 PM (b+df9)

Me three. If the dirtbag was wanting to murder PP personnel or customers, he was damned incompetent at it. Almost NYPD-level of shooting incompetence.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 06:17 PM (7MWCL)

64 interviewing the mayor who was pushing the meme if it happened at PP it must be about PP.

Are you talking about the CO Spgs Mayor? If so, I'm disappointed in him. Always thought he was rather conservative. Guess not.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 06:18 PM (mUa7N)

65 Meanwhile in Chicago, a 9 year old black boy was gunned down by at least one black male gang member in retaliation for something the boy's father, a rival gang member, did.

When Obama starts condemning that I'll give a shit about other shootings.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 28, 2015 06:18 PM (/tuJf)

66 publius who would pick up the reigns? are there any secularists (needed for islamic country) I've heard they have pushed the military down or would Putin and Iran choose?

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 06:18 PM (jOumW)

67 Looks like he just took cover in a building that happened to be a PP. Shit luck for all of us.

Posted by: Lauren at November 28, 2015 06:18 PM (Z/8dZ)

68 " last weekend running around with high powered rifles "

What is a "high powered" rifle?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 06:18 PM (WzMHg)

69 1.I am wrinkly and funny looking like Yoda and ET.

2. I have a funny voice too.

3. I like playing with little boys, as ET did, and Yoda with Annakin.

4. I can make high speed trains levitate.

5. I am a Jedi Knight!

Posted by: Harry Reid at November 28, 2015 06:19 PM (B1TZ/)

70 Also, where's Obama's comment about the mass shooting at a block party in NOLA?

Posted by: Lauren at November 28, 2015 06:19 PM (Z/8dZ)

71 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 06:18 PM (WzMHg)

Don't be a dick.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at November 28, 2015 06:20 PM (+Q9b4)

72 Barky did his usual so each on the shooting, he's outraged as usual. Never seems to get anything out on the usual body count in any big city.

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2015 06:20 PM (XRpjE)

73 What is a "high powered" rifle?
Posted by: Ricardo
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Anything more powerful than a BB cap.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 06:20 PM (9mTYi)

74 Jack he cannot point that out.

Look bad guys have guns and they can kill even a child without a gun!

so you should never own a gun .

because unreasonable reasons ..

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 06:21 PM (jOumW)

75
Tomorrow is the mid season finale of TWD and boy does Morgan fook up!

Pacifism in the Apocalypse is a mental illness...

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at November 28, 2015 06:21 PM (iQIUe)

76 Has anyone referred to the PP office as 'The site of murders', because, that would be interesting.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 06:22 PM (9mTYi)

77 What is a "high powered" rifle?

Anything above the 40W range.

Posted by: some cybernetic organism at November 28, 2015 06:23 PM (ftJ4J)

78 If just one of the PP employees was armed, he or she could perhaps have taken out the perp, and saved the lives of innocent people. But I guess "saving lives" isn't in their skill set....

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 06:23 PM (7MWCL)

79

What is a "high powered" rifle?

Any rifle made by Weatherby.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 28, 2015 06:23 PM (FlRtG)

80 Hey fappers. Fuck Planned Parenthood for exploiting this for their victimhood narrative and fuck Obama for clambering up on the bodies of his victims as a soapbox for his gun control bullshit. I hate their rotten guts.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at November 28, 2015 06:24 PM (kpqmD)

81 J.J.,
I have a glimpse of Heaven.

Or rather, eternal life.

It's very much like the life we have, except for the suffering. We get to remember everything so that we are not assholes anymore. When we pray, we get to hear the Lord's voice in reply (btw, by then we have already met Him).

I hope to meet and shake hands with you and your friend.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 28, 2015 06:24 PM (1ijHg)

82 Anybody hear what kind of gun he used to not kill all the PP peeps?

Posted by: Eromero at November 28, 2015 06:26 PM (b+df9)

83 "Don't be a dick."

Not being a dick, heh, just curious what a high-powered rifle is in the common mind.

A machine gun?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 06:26 PM (FsdZx)

84 AFAIK, the "standard" usage for "high-powered rifle" means "center-fire rifle", as opposed to "rim-fire rifle".

At least, this is what I have always taken it to mean, when it is not obviously being used in misleading fashion by the MSM.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 06:26 PM (7MWCL)

85 So this guy could just as easily be described as a PP supporter and protector...

Well, he is described as The Planned Parenthood Gunman, so that's pretty accurate.

Posted by: t-bird at November 28, 2015 06:26 PM (oFSUK)

86 66: I'm Sgt. Schultz on Turkey's current internal doings, basically. I know nothing, nothing.

Attaturk is rolling over in his grave, now. Someone who knows more about the internals should explain, but in the old days, the military kept the Islamists at bay, but now they're getting back in power.

Turkey will go full Islam-tard if something isn't done. They are undermining the Kurds, who are really the only ones Turkey cares to fight, and Erdogan and his son are the ones running the ISIS oil.

Putin could invade 'em for all I care.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 28, 2015 06:26 PM (dvuhZ)

87 Any rifle made by ~~Weatherby~~ Holland & Holland.

Posted by: Arbalest

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 06:27 PM (9mTYi)

88 insomniac, it is nuts that PP can claim any victim status and have real victims ignored so blatantly.

hands over glass of wine.
easier to not think too much about the total hypocrisy of it all.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 06:28 PM (jOumW)

89
To those of you who havent seen it yet, Ash vs Evil Dead is great. Hilarious and very gory:

http://scene-rls.com/releases/?s=Ash+vs+Evil+Dead

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at November 28, 2015 06:29 PM (iQIUe)

90 And one of the officers killed was...openly and vocally pro-life.

Posted by: Lauren at November 28, 2015 06:29 PM (Z/8dZ)

91 Seeing as this has morphed into a gum thread, a hypothetical question: If you had to choose between a .455 Webley Mark I and a Mauser C96, which would you choose, and why?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 06:30 PM (7MWCL)

92 81 I hope to meet and shake hands with you and your friend.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 28, 2015 06:24 PM (1ijHg)

One of these days, in the here and now, would be ideal.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 28, 2015 06:30 PM (uRmWf)

93 Of course hag Hillary had to get her 2 cents in and PP was fund raising on the murders before the dead bodies were cold.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 06:30 PM (mUa7N)

94 Make high powered ROFLs, not high powered rifles.

Posted by: hippy dippy gun grabber at November 28, 2015 06:31 PM (B1TZ/)

95 84 AFAIK, the "standard" usage for "high-powered rifle" means "center-fire rifle", as opposed to "rim-fire rifle".

At least, this is what I have always taken it to mean, when it is not obviously being used in misleading fashion by the MSM.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 06:26 PM (7MWCL)

I've been curious about this, too. I'm not sure if it's merely another worthless, politically-motivated phrase like "assault weapon."

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at November 28, 2015 06:31 PM (EHU9F)

96 Has America's Greatest Gun Salesman weighed in on this yet?

I believe he came up with the stunning realization that "enough equals enough", or something like that. Brilliant, really.

Posted by: t-bird at November 28, 2015 06:31 PM (oFSUK)

97 Auburn determined to melt down and give a score to 'Bama.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 06:31 PM (vsbNu)

98 86 Putin could invade 'em for all I care.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 28, 2015 06:26 PM (dvuhZ)

Read somewhere that Putin is actually establishing ties with Israel to pick up the slack in trade that they had with Turkey.

Wonder how he squares that with the Farsi's.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 28, 2015 06:32 PM (uRmWf)

99 I always thought ET recognizing Yoda was weird. Had Prequel written all over it.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 28, 2015 06:32 PM (VAVIJ)

100 .22 Hornet is certainly a lot more powerful than any rimfire, but still, I think that well placed coyote shots might the most I would use it for.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 06:33 PM (9mTYi)

101 The officer that was killed worked for UCCS. Not sure why he was even there.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 06:33 PM (mUa7N)

102 Can't believe it's the end of season for TWD. I like Morgan more than Glenn, but then I liked Beth but guess she wanted to move on.

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2015 06:33 PM (XRpjE)

103 PP always finds a way to make bank from dead bodies.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 28, 2015 06:34 PM (HMt16)

104 I've been curious about this, too. I'm not sure if it's merely another worthless, politically-motivated phrase like "assault weapon."
Posted by: antisocial justice
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That

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 06:34 PM (9mTYi)

105 Attaturk wanted to bring Turkiyeh and the Turkiyish people into the modern age after the fall of the Ottoman empire as a result of WWI. Attaturk insisted that men wear western suits, get rid of the fez crap, that people be educated -- and IIRC, he wasn't even religious. He also spurred modernization of the Turkish language. He was Turkiyeh's cultural Martin Luther and was known as the Father of Turkey -- "Attaturk".

Posted by: SFGoth at November 28, 2015 06:34 PM (KAi1n)

106 91 Seeing as this has morphed into a gum thread, a hypothetical question: If you had to choose between a .455 Webley Mark I and a Mauser C96, which would you choose, and why?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 06:30 PM (7MWCL)

The Mauser because it was featured in the movie, Big Jake.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at November 28, 2015 06:34 PM (+Q9b4)

107 I've been curious about this, too. I'm not sure if
it's merely another worthless, politically-motivated phrase like
"assault weapon."

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at November 28, 2015 06:31 PM (EHU9F)

The term has been current in Canada at least since my childhood. I think it stems from the fact that it has long been illegal to hunt deer or other large game with a rimfire rifle, so you had to have a "high-powered rifle" to shoot deer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 06:34 PM (7MWCL)

108 Will Muschamp is a fucking idjit.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 06:35 PM (vsbNu)

109 Any rifle made by ~~Weatherby~~ ~~Holland & Holland.~~ ~~Barrett.~~ ~~General Electric~~ BAE Global Combat Systems.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 06:35 PM (bLnSU)

110 88 insomniac, it is nuts that PP can claim any victim status and have real victims ignored so blatantly.

hands over glass of wine.
easier to not think too much about the total hypocrisy of it all.
Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 06:28 PM (jOumW)

Thank you my dear.

*sips*

That's better. Yes indeed, if I spend too long thinking about it I go very quickly to white-hot burning rage.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at November 28, 2015 06:36 PM (kpqmD)

111 "Holland & Holland. "

Makes elephants have a bad day.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 06:36 PM (FXgSa)

112 >>Will Muschamp is a fucking idjit.

It was dumb enough to go off the first time when he was obviously wrong and cost Auburn 15 but to double down is just retarded.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 28, 2015 06:36 PM (/tuJf)

113 98: Barky is throwing away everything we had in the ME. Everyone realizes he's an impotent pussy and they'll be making other arrangements. And Putin will be happy to step into our previous role. He'd love to have his sphere of influence extend all over that oil. And Barky is giving it to him.

We've got what, 13 more months of this SCOAMF in office?

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 28, 2015 06:36 PM (dvuhZ)

114 There were a bunch of old Cary Grant movies on TCM I watched yesterday. It was relaxing and calm.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2015 06:37 PM (SVEy9)

115 SFGoth right, but with MB Erdogon smooshing the old military, who or what type of leadership would come to Turkey at this point if Putin/Iran win this battle?

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 06:37 PM (jOumW)

116 military and secularists*

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 06:37 PM (jOumW)

117

87 Any rifle made by ~~Weatherby~~ Holland & Holland after testosterone replacement therapy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 06:27 PM (9mTYi)

... corrected due to missing Technical Bulletin.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 28, 2015 06:38 PM (FlRtG)

118 I believe he came up with the stunning realization that "enough equals enough", or something like that. Brilliant, really.

Posted by: t-bird at November 28, 2015 06:31 PM (oFSUK)

He's just frustrated that other people can't see that another crazed lunatic whose crazed lunacy was pretty obvious is clear proof that well-adjusted normal people are the real threat.

As usual, the actual threats aren't targeted because of ideology, so everyone must suffer.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 06:38 PM (bLnSU)

119 I wonder when the crooks will start using air rifles. They are made in calibers large enough to kill big game. Not traceable, quiet and some have magazines.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 06:38 PM (mUa7N)

120 {{willow}}

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 06:39 PM (bLnSU)

121 If you had to choose between a .455 Webley Mark I and a Mauser C96,
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If it was good enough for Dr. Watson, it's good enough for me. No question though, the Mauser has more panache.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 06:39 PM (9mTYi)

122 if I spend too long thinking about it I go very quickly to white-hot burning rage.
Posted by: Insomniac

as do i, They are so not worth it or the gray hair i see appearing by my bangs!

drink up.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 06:39 PM (jOumW)

123 To me, high powered always referred to range + lethality.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at November 28, 2015 06:39 PM (+Q9b4)

124 High powered? .700 Nitro Express.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at November 28, 2015 06:40 PM (kpqmD)

125 Not traceable, quiet and some have magazines.
Posted by: Ronster
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Subject to same rifling analysis as firearms.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 06:40 PM (9mTYi)

126 I think the record Grizzly was taken with a 7mm RM. Might be an old record.

I would *prefer* something bigger if facing a Grizzly.

By "bigger" I of course mean an M1 Abrams tank.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 06:40 PM (bLnSU)

127 You don't need a high powered rifle to kill a deer. You can do that with a shotgun, if you are close enough. I have killed deer with a 12 gauge shotgun and a 30.06, oddly enough, both Brownings.

Posted by: Eromero at November 28, 2015 06:41 PM (b+df9)

128 Merovign *hugs back* how are you doing? Health is still misbehaving? or any new treatment being made available?

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 06:41 PM (jOumW)

129
At point blank range, virtually anything can be considered "high-powered."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 28, 2015 06:41 PM (uRmWf)

130 Some scholar should do an econometric analysis of differences in performance between college football players who spend time studying film or playbooks versus spending time under tattoo guns.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 06:42 PM (vsbNu)

131 ".700 Nitro Express."

Kinky.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 06:42 PM (Jwa9G)

132 I would *prefer* something bigger if facing a Grizzly.
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In the movie 'Grizzly', the protagonist used an RPG.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 06:43 PM (9mTYi)

133 "Room for One More" is one of my favorite Grant movies.
He was married to his co-star, Betsy Drake, for a while.

Posted by: Sal at November 28, 2015 06:43 PM (MRX6w)

134 122 if I spend too long thinking about it I go very quickly to white-hot burning rage.
Posted by: Insomniac

as do i, They are so not worth it or the gray hair i see appearing by my bangs!

drink up.
Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 06:39 PM (jOumW)

Solid advice.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at November 28, 2015 06:43 PM (kpqmD)

135 I have killed deer with a 12 gauge shotgun and a 30.06, oddly enough, both Brownings.
Posted by: Eromero
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My first deer, 20 ga., #3 buckshot

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 06:44 PM (9mTYi)

136 Merovign *hugs back* how are you doing? Health is still misbehaving? or any new treatment being made available?

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 06:41 PM (jOumW)

Thanks, doctor's jobs are just to keep me alive until I can find an answer - clear they aren't going to.

I am still here, not in much pain, and haven't become homeless yet, so doing okay.

Hope you are doing well!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 06:45 PM (bLnSU)

137 and plucks out offending hair.

more advice!

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 06:46 PM (jOumW)

138 That opening sentence may well be the dumbest thing I've ever read on the internet. Well done you.

Posted by: David at November 28, 2015 06:46 PM (L6xGN)

139 The officer who was killed worked elsewhere but heard the call and rushed to the scene not part of his responsibility.

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2015 06:47 PM (XRpjE)

140 Subject to same rifling analysis as firearms.

Sure, the pellet, but no casings lying around would make it a bit harder.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 06:47 PM (mUa7N)

141 Posted by: David at November 28, 2015 06:46 PM (L6xGN)

I'm sure you've posted dumber.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at November 28, 2015 06:47 PM (+Q9b4)

142 Merovign, never homeless guy, i have a home still if i don't run away. and G-d willing the answer and availability of your needs will be found soon.

my life? a little rough right now. but still going.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 06:48 PM (jOumW)

143 Think if all the babies he saved !!

Posted by: Righter at November 28, 2015 06:48 PM (o0Akw)

144 Now remember boys and girls, thousands of murders are committed inside Planned Parenthood Clinics across the country every year, but those are ok...because you know...my body my choice...unless it's about Obamacare...

Liberals are mentally ill.

Posted by: runningrn at November 28, 2015 06:49 PM (sUP4M)

145 Binge-watching Otherworld on Youtube. I just discovered it.

It was the lowest rated show of 1985, pulled after only 8 episodes. It was about a family that gets sucked into a fascist parallel universe while visiting the pyramids. All the people there live in zones that they can't leave (proto-Hunger Games). The idea was that the family had to sneak their way through 77 zones to get home, but the show got yanked before it really got going. A big-budget remake on a cable network would be seriously awesome.

Part sci-fi, part action-adventure, part teen drama (along the lines of My Girlfriend Just Told Me She's An Android, But I Still Love Her!) and part satire, like a proto-Idiocracy but with a more melodramatic comedic tone. As an example, all the food in the grocery stores consists of generic cans with labels like "GOOD FOOD" and "MEAT."

"What kind of meat?" asks the bewildered Mom. "It's, uh...meat?" replies the stock clerk, sounding for all the world like Frito.

And to top it off, a young Jonathan Banks played the bad guy, which is just pure win.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 28, 2015 06:50 PM (HMt16)

146 I would *prefer* something bigger if facing a Grizzly.

By "bigger" I of course mean an M1 Abrams tank.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 06:40 PM (bLnSU)

Having a slow acquaintance with you is easier.

"What are you doing? You can't outrun a bear."

"I don't have to. I only have to outrun you."

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 28, 2015 06:51 PM (zc3Db)

147 In the movie 'Grizzly', the protagonist used an RPG.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,
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Status : Withdrawn

I just looked it up. It was an M1 rocket launcher, or rather, a mock-up thereof.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 06:51 PM (9mTYi)

148 Oh goody, the first fruits of our (hopefully) bountiful Salon harvest! Let us be truly thankful to our Ewok sower.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 28, 2015 06:52 PM (B1TZ/)

149 I worry that when the time comes, there won't be enough guns or ammo, regardless of 'power'. We face leviathan.

Posted by: Eromero at November 28, 2015 06:52 PM (b+df9)

150 The AP also reported that on Saturday, Dear's cabin was adorned with a cross made of twigs.

Josef Goebbels would be proud.

The city's mayor, John Suthers, said on Saturday that while investigators were not ready to discuss a possible motive for
the attack still hoping to glean more information about the gunman
and his mental state people can "make inferences from where it took
place."

Really? I'll make an inference that you're a vile c*ck sucking son of bitch

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2015 06:53 PM (45oDG)

151 fgs righter, is that all you have?
when the light is crooked, the shadow is crooked

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 06:53 PM (jOumW)

152 I would *prefer* something bigger if facing a Grizzly.

-
Have you seen that Duluth Trading Co. fire hose pants commercial? I hope nobody takes that to seriously.

P.S. Who wants to wear a firehose?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 28, 2015 06:53 PM (Nwg0u)

153 "What are you doing? You can't outrun a bear."

"I don't have to. I only have to outrun you."
Posted by: ThePrimordial
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Variant:

Girl: "This Beretta .25 saved me during a grizzly bear attack."

Friend: "What?! You stopped a grizzly with a a .25?"

Girl: , "Nah, I knee-capped my boyfriend."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 06:53 PM (9mTYi)

154 Posted by: Righter at November 28, 2015 06:48 PM (o0Akw)

--Way to bring your D Game.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 06:53 PM (vsbNu)

155 Variant:

Girl: "This Beretta .25 saved me during a grizzly bear attack."

Friend: "What?! You stopped a grizzly with a a .25?"

Girl: , "Nah, I knee-capped my boyfriend."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 06:53 PM (9mTYi)

LOL. I never heard that version.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 28, 2015 06:54 PM (zc3Db)

156 [imy life? a little rough right now. but still going.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 06:48 PM (jOumW)

I hope you at least got pie!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 06:54 PM (bLnSU)

157 people can "make inferences from where it took
place."
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Ergo, we can assume that the mayor is stoned?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 06:54 PM (9mTYi)

158 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 28, 2015 06:36 PM (dvuhZ)

About that "elections have consequences" idea, I now think we have an incontrovertible case study!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 28, 2015 06:55 PM (ftVQq)

159 I believe a high powered rifle is any rifle made by High Powered Automatic Military Style Assault Weapon With High Capacity Magazines Inc.

Posted by: tu3031 at November 28, 2015 06:55 PM (EDYaR)

160 I think we should start the rumor that the shooter was a supporter of Dr. Gosnell. His shooting was for revenge.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at November 28, 2015 06:55 PM (+Q9b4)

161 One odd thing from today's presser is that they won't release the names of two of the civilians until after the autopsies on Mondays.

Can't recall that being the protocol in most of these things.

Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2015 06:56 PM (t5zYU)

162 Having a slow acquaintance with you is easier.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 28, 2015 06:51 PM (zc3Db)

I'd rather have a main battle tank if it's all the same to you.

I *am* the slow acquaintance!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 06:56 PM (bLnSU)

163 "make inferences from where it took place."

One doesn't "make" inferences, one draws them. Well ... lefties "make" inferences, "make up" to be exact.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 28, 2015 06:56 PM (zc3Db)

164 Merovign, i did save a piece but gave it up to granchild.

because i'm shtoopid.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 06:56 PM (jOumW)

165 Why be concerned about 'High powered rifles'?
We all know that derringers are the more dangerous weapon.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 06:57 PM (9mTYi)

166 161
One odd thing from today's presser is that they won't release the names
of two of the civilians until after the autopsies on Mondays.

Can't recall that being the protocol in most of these things.

Posted by: Y-not

That'll definitely draw out the "false flag op" crowd.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 28, 2015 06:57 PM (KAi1n)

167 I'm starting to think mayor Suthers is an ass.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 06:59 PM (mUa7N)

168 One odd thing from today's presser is that they won't release the names
of two of the civilians until after the autopsies on Mondays.
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One wonders about the police suggestion of 'firing through the walls'. It is always possible that the cops are on the hook for some of the injured/dead.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 06:59 PM (9mTYi)

169 Posted by: SFGoth at November 28, 2015 06:57 PM (KAi1n)

Is it just me or is the overt management of even trivial news becoming more and more apparent?

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 28, 2015 07:00 PM (ftVQq)

170 Merovign, i did save a piece but gave it up to granchild.

because i'm shtoopid.
Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 06:56 PM (jOumW)

https://youtu.be/I_H3uWLW3N4?t=20

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 07:00 PM (bLnSU)

171 Okay, the preliminaries are over.

Time for the Crown Jewel of Rivalry Week: Florida State vs. Florida.

Bring it on!

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 07:00 PM (vsbNu)

172 Hi willow!!!

Posted by: jewells45 at November 28, 2015 07:01 PM (5fvBZ)

173 Suthers got the voters to increase the sales tax to fix pot holes. Of course the voters were more than happy to oblige. I don't live there, but I shop there, so it will affect me.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 07:01 PM (mUa7N)

174 We all know that derringers are the more dangerous weapon.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 06:57 PM (9mTYi)
I think Eris has a derringer with a bayonet lug!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 28, 2015 07:01 PM (ftVQq)

175 Is it just me or is the overt management of even trivial news becoming more and more apparent?
Posted by: Hrothgar
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Only to the thoughtful/discerning.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 07:01 PM (9mTYi)

176 One wonders about the police suggestion of 'firing through the walls'. It is always possible that the cops are on the hook for some of the injured/dead.
--

So the idea would be pre-publicity damage control?

You'd think a family member would have come forward by now to ID their loved one as being one of the victims.

Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2015 07:03 PM (t5zYU)

177 I've been staying away from the news. Better for my blood pressure.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2015 07:03 PM (lLEPt)

178 https://youtu.be/I_H3uWLW3N4?t=20
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 07:00 PM (bLnSU)

hahahahahah, i'm so saving that!
that is how i feel about life right now . thank you.
chuckling

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 07:04 PM (jOumW)

179 I would go with the Webley. No real reason, other than it is easier to reload and clean. In the states it can be hard to get the right diameter bullet, but if you can find .454 hollow based wad-cutters the skirt will expand to take the rifling very nicely. You also get your choice of powders to load with, the MK1 is partial to BP.
Of course it does make you want to go out and get the matching Lee-Metford or Martin-Henry.
Check to make sure the cylinder has not been shaved off to fit .45 Auto-rim ammo, by the way, that reduces the value of it, though auto-rim can be easier to find than .455 brass. Also the cylinder should lock up when the the trigger is pulled, make sure it indexes right and doesn't wobble.

Really, though both the .455 and the 7.62 rounds are easy and fun to reload, and if you have access to .223 brass and the correct neck reamer you can churn out brass all day long and half the night - and it is as easy to load as a rifle cartridge.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2015 07:04 PM (q2o38)

180 Wanna bet if the shooter was a member of the religion of peace the dipshit mayor would be running around saying people shouldn't be making any assumptions and wait for all the facts.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2015 07:04 PM (45oDG)

181 jewells45 !!
whew i haven't seen you in so long! how are things? i hope vewwy vewwy goodish

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 07:05 PM (jOumW)

182 When Mohammed el Mohammed cuts off someone's head we are instructed not to draw inferences.

Posted by: blaster at November 28, 2015 07:05 PM (F1vO6)

183 When I saw the mayor on CNN I figured he was a lefty nut .

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2015 07:05 PM (XRpjE)

184 Final: UNC 45, NC State 34

Somewhere Nip weeps, curses, orders another drink.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 07:05 PM (9mTYi)

185 159 I believe a high powered rifle is any rifle made by High Powered Automatic Military Style Assault Weapon With High Capacity Magazines Inc.
Posted by: tu3031 at November 28, 2015 06:55 PM (EDYaR)

I liked their High Powered Automatic Military Style Assault Weapons With High Capacity Magazines so much, I bought the company!

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at November 28, 2015 07:06 PM (kpqmD)

186 "I think Eris has a derringer with a bayonet lug!"

I thought those were illegal.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 07:06 PM (TkFHI)

187 TheQuietMan

certainly the President would say so

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 07:06 PM (jOumW)

188 i really really do need to ...someday in the future ..buy a gun.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 07:07 PM (jOumW)

189 I hope you find joy in your life somehow, willow. And/or win the lottery.

Money can't buy happiness but it can take care of quite a number of annoyances.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 07:07 PM (bLnSU)

190 ISIS training. Looks like a parody. Maybe Monty Python.

http://tinyurl.com/nb44vza

Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 28, 2015 07:08 PM (Nwg0u)

191 >>Somewhere Nip weeps, curses, orders another drink.

So a day ending in y then.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 28, 2015 07:08 PM (/tuJf)

192 I thought those were illegal.
Posted by: Ricardo
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No, no... it's illegal to carry them in a thigh holster, otherwise, it's OK.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 07:08 PM (9mTYi)

193 I thought those were illegal.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 07:06 PM (TkFHI)

I have 2, but I never bring them out of the safe.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 07:09 PM (mUa7N)

194 Oh Willow... I had the best Thanksgiving I can remember. My oldest daughter who lives in NM surprised me and drove up for the holiday. It was the best 3 days I have had in years. All my kids together again after 16 years. She left today and is about halfway home right now. I just felt so blessed.

Posted by: jewells45 at November 28, 2015 07:09 PM (5fvBZ)

195 No, no... it's illegal to carry them in a thigh holster, otherwise, it's OK.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 07:08 PM (9mTYi)

Only if the Fashion Police catch you.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 07:09 PM (bLnSU)

196 (happy for jewells)

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 07:10 PM (bLnSU)

197 Is it just me or is the overt management of even trivial news becoming more and more apparent?

They're giving TASS a run for its money.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at November 28, 2015 07:10 PM (Dwehj)

198 "I liked their High Powered Automatic Military Style Assault Weapons With High Capacity Magazines so much, I bought the company!"

Ah, yes. The HPAMSAWHCM.

Big fan myself.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 07:10 PM (TkFHI)

199 She left today and is about halfway home right now. I just felt so blessed.
Posted by: jewells45
------------------

* smiles *

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 07:10 PM (9mTYi)

200 Mero, if i win the lottery we are 1st going have a blast and then find you the best medical advances available.

yes life does have more choices (steak) for instance when not also facing financial destruction.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 07:12 PM (jOumW)

201 "No, no... it's illegal to carry them in a thigh holster, otherwise, it's OK."

Right. Got it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 07:12 PM (fKCm+)

202 I think Eris has a derringer with a bayonet lug!

http://tinyurl.com/zrtxsdz

Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 28, 2015 07:13 PM (Nwg0u)

203 For those that don't know when I was separated from my first husband he took off with my daughter when she was 2. I didn't see her again until she was 15.

Posted by: jewells45 at November 28, 2015 07:13 PM (5fvBZ)

204 Abandoned newborn baby girl found buried alive under asphalt and rubble by California riverbed

http://goo.gl/gQcWd9

=========
Hopefully the beginning of a new and better life...

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at November 28, 2015 07:13 PM (iQIUe)

205 All my kids together again after 16 years. She left today and is about halfway home right now. I just felt so blessed.
Posted by: jewells45 at November 28, 2015 07:09 PM (5fvBZ)

is there anything cooler than being with those you love?

hugs, cool beans !

that is two stories today on this thread (JJ's)that really are uplifting

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 07:13 PM (jOumW)

206 Jewells45, good for you.

I find holidays stressful. I am glad you had a good time.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2015 07:14 PM (q2o38)

207 Mayor Suthers was previously the CO AG. I thought he did a good job there. Has gone to hell in a hand basket since.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 07:15 PM (mUa7N)

208
Okay, the preliminaries are over. Time for the Crown Jewel of Rivalry Week: Florida State vs. Florida. Bring it on!
Posted by: logprof

The Battle of the Hospitality Administration majors...

Also:

Among the notable graduates of Florida State University are fitness expert Richard Simmons and Spanx apparel line founder Sara Blakely.

Truly, the Harvard of the Everglades.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 28, 2015 07:15 PM (kdS6q)

209 {{willow}} again. Ditto from me.

If I can find the right people I can fix this. At least my worst problem.

I admit I could be working harder on it - especially if these meds didn't addle my brain.

I have survived so far.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 07:16 PM (bLnSU)

210 "http://tinyurl.com/zrtxsdz"

Hey there. A sticker.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 07:16 PM (fKCm+)

211 Oh, jewells, so happy you were all together. It really is the little things that mean the most.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2015 07:16 PM (lLEPt)

212 Well, maybe we can't use this incident now to demonize prolifers, but what we can do: wait a year or so until people forget the details of the case, and surreptitiously include this in a statistical study that "proves" that whute, rightwing Christian domestic terrorists kill more people than Muslim extremists.

A few conservative sites will debunk it, but none of our readership will ever become aware of it.

Posted by: VOX at November 28, 2015 07:16 PM (B1TZ/)

213 Among the notable graduates of Florida State University are fitness expert Richard Simmons and Spanx apparel line founder Sara Blakely.

Truly, the Harvard of the Everglades.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 28, 2015 07:15 PM (kdS6q)

Fuck you!

Posted by: Burt Reynolds at November 28, 2015 07:16 PM (vsbNu)

214 Local news is on and report from Colorado eyewitness says shooter had a AK.

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2015 07:17 PM (XRpjE)

215 Sorry, jewells. What the Hell was he up to?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 07:17 PM (fKCm+)

216 Abandoned newborn baby girl found buried alive under asphalt and rubble by California riverbed

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at November 28, 2015 07:13 PM (iQIUe)

Well... she will have a story to tell.

I might call her Moses. Or Riddick.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 07:17 PM (bLnSU)

217 Oh, and neither FSU nor FU are close to the Everglades.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 07:18 PM (vsbNu)

218 Among the notable graduates of Florida State University are fitness expert Richard Simmons and Spanx apparel line founder Sara Blakely.

Truly, the Harvard of the Everglades.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 28, 2015 07:15 PM (kdS6q)

===========
They are both multi millionaires and have created thousands of jobs. Sounds pretty damn smart to me.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at November 28, 2015 07:18 PM (iQIUe)

219 Nice little cupcake on CBS' SEC today show.

Posted by: Blano at November 28, 2015 07:18 PM (heN73)

220 >>Truly, the Harvard of the Everglades.

LOL!

Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2015 07:19 PM (t5zYU)

221 "Colorado eyewitness says shooter had a AK."

Really? He hit everybody in the arm?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 07:19 PM (hMlYe)

222 ROLL TIDE.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at November 28, 2015 07:20 PM (xInes)

223 Vox - your right already it's the PP shooting even if no employee or patient from there was injured. Last night during it CNN had a complete history of violence against PP

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2015 07:20 PM (XRpjE)

224 I will always be saddened that people go crazy, and thankful that crazy people are such lousy shots.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 07:20 PM (bLnSU)

225 I have survived so far.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 07:16 PM (bLnSU)

and you must keep doing so.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 07:20 PM (jOumW)

226 The news media call anything with a stock and a barrel an AK.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 07:21 PM (mUa7N)

227 "I might call her Moses. Or Riddick."

What kind of monster.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 07:21 PM (hMlYe)

228 Skip @ 214- Shooter had an AK!
Yes, everybody in America knows, thanks to the 'media', what an AK is.

Posted by: Eromero at November 28, 2015 07:21 PM (b+df9)

229 For those that don't know when I was separated from my first husband he took off with my daughter when she was 2. I didn't see her again until she was 15.

Posted by: jewells45 at November 28, 2015 07:13 PM (5fvBZ)

Wow jewells, sorry to hear that. Nice to see it's ending happily.

Posted by: Blano at November 28, 2015 07:21 PM (heN73)

230 Well... she will have a story to tell.

I might call her Moses. Or Riddick.

Or possibly the feminine equivalent of Jerusalem...wonder what that would be?

Ezekiel 16:5 and following

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 28, 2015 07:22 PM (bZ7mE)

231
They are both multi millionaires and have created thousands of jobs. Sounds pretty damn smart to me.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!

You tell 'em!

Posted by: Nancy Kulp - Really REALLY enjoying her years as a FSU Pi Beta Phi.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 28, 2015 07:22 PM (kdS6q)

232 Yes, everybody in America knows, thanks to the 'media', what an AK is.

Yes. It's that evil gun with the thing that goes up.

Posted by: CNN at November 28, 2015 07:23 PM (Dwehj)

233 Ziyonah?

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 28, 2015 07:23 PM (bZ7mE)

234
Well... she will have a story to tell.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 07:17 PM (bLnSU)

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I hope not. If I were a parent who adopted her, I would not want her to know that she was left to die. It might not look that way in the photos, but it's very cold in Calif right now.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at November 28, 2015 07:23 PM (iQIUe)

235 145
Binge-watching Otherworld on Youtube. I just discovered it.

It was the lowest rated show of 1985, pulled after only 8 episodes.
It was about a family that gets sucked into a fascist parallel universe
while visiting the pyramids.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 28, 2015 06:50 PM (HMt16)

OMG. I so remember that. I was in my teenage years and the teen girl on there was so amazing to me....because she was a hot teen girl!! Ohhhhhh.....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 28, 2015 07:24 PM (AC0lD)

236 The news media call anything with a stock and a barrel an AK.
Posted by: Ronster
------------

It might have been a Kalashnikov.

Posted by: Shep Smith, Ace Reporter at November 28, 2015 07:24 PM (9mTYi)

237 I wrote last night every media reporter wouldn't know a non AK was if it smacked them up the head.

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2015 07:24 PM (XRpjE)

238 >>of my favorite Grant movies.
He was married to his co-star, Betsy Drake, for a while.
Posted by: Sal at November 28, 2015 06:43 PM (MRX6w)

I don't think I've seen this one! I will remember.

I think arsenic and old lace is my favorite though...I also love a Philadelphia story.

Posted by: Lea at November 28, 2015 07:24 PM (vmMMi)

239 Just got back from Trumbo, political inversions aside, it really was an excellent film.

The guy they got to play Kirk Douglas was spot on.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 28, 2015 07:25 PM (CsY+v)

240 Hopefully that little girl will get a good and loving home.

Away from Compton.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2015 07:25 PM (lLEPt)

241 Ricardo.. hell I don't know. I think he thought (well knew) it wasn't going to work out. He's a spiteful SOB. So.. take my daughter away from me. A final act of revenge. So many lost years...

Posted by: jewells45 at November 28, 2015 07:25 PM (5fvBZ)

242 More info on Robert Dear. SPOILER ALERT! Coo coo for Cocoa Puffs.

http://tinyurl.com/nht8t7k

Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 28, 2015 07:26 PM (Nwg0u)

243

awwww, such a cute little bayonet!

Posted by: Soothsayer the autoresponsebot at November 28, 2015 07:26 PM (XGqPs)

244 and you must keep doing so.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 07:20 PM (jOumW)

I intend to be around for a very, very long time.

Things are just a little slow right now.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 07:27 PM (bLnSU)

245 My pour mailman is just leaving my driveway

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2015 07:27 PM (XRpjE)

246 What kind of monster.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 07:21 PM (hMlYe)

A mostly friendly monster, but a monster nonetheless.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 07:27 PM (bLnSU)

247 Beat them Gaytors!

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 07:28 PM (vsbNu)

248 The news media call anything with a stock and a barrel an AK.

Posted by: Ronster

I read he had a shotgun. Although it could have been a one of those high powered, automatic, assault shotguns

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2015 07:28 PM (45oDG)

249 And it's 7:32pm or 1932hrs

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2015 07:28 PM (XRpjE)

250 Shep Smith, Ace Reporter

you got me there shep.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 07:28 PM (mUa7N)

251 203 For those that don't know when I was separated from my first husband he took off with my daughter when she was 2. I didn't see her again until she was 15.

Posted by: jewells45 at November 28, 2015 07:13 PM (5fvBZ)

.................

Oh my goodness. That's awful. Hope youre meeting with her at 15 went well.

Posted by: Molly k. at November 28, 2015 07:28 PM (kM2ec)

252 AR-47? What's the 47 for?

Posted by: Matt Yglesias at November 28, 2015 07:28 PM (B1TZ/)

253 Sorry, jewells. People can be fcuked up.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 07:28 PM (HxO6h)

254 I think arsenic and old lace is my favorite though...I also love a Philadelphia story.

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Bringing Up Baby is good, too. Trivia: first celluloid use of "gay" to mean homo.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 28, 2015 07:28 PM (Nwg0u)

255 OK anyone else have a big question mark about the smoking hot Russian MP that was killed in her car fvcking her husband?

The story makes no sense.

Posted by: Nip Sip at November 28, 2015 07:29 PM (jJRIy)

256 I hope not. If I were a parent who adopted her, I would not want her to know that she was left to die. It might not look that way in the photos, but it's very cold in Calif right now.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at November 28, 2015 07:23 PM (iQIUe)

I can understand that, and I wouldn't share it too young, but life is all about stories. That would be a hell of a story to not know.

She'd have to be old enough and on good enough terms to understand it properly - not the birthday cake that reads "You're Adopted!"

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 07:29 PM (bLnSU)

257 >>>It might have been a Kalashnikov.

Posted by: Shep Smith, Ace Reporter at November 28, 2015 07:24 PM (9mTYi)<<<

I used to love visiting that field to watch the White Sox play.

Posted by: SCOAMF at November 28, 2015 07:29 PM (AJkxb)

258 Mero, as a wise man once told me ; Your health comes first--we can always hang ourselves later.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 07:29 PM (jOumW)

259 "My pour mailman is just leaving my driveway"

Dude, your mailman. Shit's cracking me up.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 07:30 PM (HxO6h)

260 The eyewitness guy about 60ish says he saw the shooter leveling a AK. Not a media person.

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2015 07:30 PM (XRpjE)

261 jewells45 I'm very happy for you.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, home is where the heart is, on the bus at November 28, 2015 07:30 PM (Oy0zJ)

262 If it was good enough for Dr. Watson, it's good enough for me. No question though, the Mauser has more panache.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 06:39 PM (9mTYi)

Apparently, in the hands of a skilled user, the Webley is capable of a pretty good sustained rate of fire, because the tilt-open design permits loaded six rounds at once from a clip made for the purpose. I don't know if the C96, with its integral box magazine, is amenable to that sort of thing. And Winston Churchill carried a C96, and spoke highly of them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 07:31 PM (7MWCL)

263 255 OK anyone else have a big question mark about the smoking hot Russian MP that was killed in her car fvcking her husband?

The story makes no sense.
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 28, 2015 07:29 PM (jJRIy)

--Go to steynonline.com.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 07:31 PM (vsbNu)

264 jewells, cannot.even.imagine. having to live through that.

i cannot imagine doing that to a child purposefully, i went though an extremely ugly divorce , still to deprive a parent/child relationship willfully has to be the worst thing ever as a revenge tactic.

what a bastard

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 07:32 PM (jOumW)

265 Does a pour mailman deliver liquor?

How do I get one?

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 07:33 PM (vsbNu)

266 Molly it did go very well. In fact she lived with us for awhile but she missed her friends and family back in NM so she only stayed a year. Moved back to NM. She's always lived there so we only see each other once a year. I have 3 grandkids by her now who are just wonderful. Miss them like hell. THIS is when I wish I was rich.

Posted by: jewells45 at November 28, 2015 07:33 PM (5fvBZ)

267 I read he had a shotgun. Although it could have been a one of those high powered, automatic, assault shotguns

This is also true and the clip had a sixty round capacity.

Posted by: CNN at November 28, 2015 07:34 PM (Dwehj)

268 My typing on a screen I can't see well kills me. My kindle and phone at the same time with no connection to the other both decided to screw me and shrink the font to unmanageable size.

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2015 07:34 PM (XRpjE)

269 >>someday in the future ..buy a gun.
Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 07:07 PM (jOumW)

willow, you could what I do, which is wait for various family members to show up and say here, I brought you this gun

Posted by: Lea at November 28, 2015 07:34 PM (vmMMi)

270 Not in this state, it has a monopoly on wine and liquor

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2015 07:35 PM (XRpjE)

271 Well Willow.. he's just an asshole. Not much more to add. Many years have passed, water under the bridge. I don't wish him any ill will... but I am sure glad I didn't stay with the bastard!

Posted by: jewells45 at November 28, 2015 07:35 PM (5fvBZ)

272 still to deprive a parent/child relationship willfully has to be the worst thing ever as a revenge tactic.

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It's pretty common.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 28, 2015 07:36 PM (Nwg0u)

273 Congrats to Frank Beamer for going out on top. The Hokies beat the Cavs! VaTech will probably play in the Kazakhstan Bowl against Saskatchewan Tech or something but hey, its a bowl game. 23 straight I think for Beamer. Good Luck Coach Beamer, your one of the good ones.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 28, 2015 07:36 PM (Kyo8L)

274 ET only has a Light Finger.... not ready for a Saber yet apparently...

Posted by: BB Wolf at November 28, 2015 07:36 PM (qh617)

275 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 07:29 PM (bLnSU)

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Wouldnt hide that she was adopted but I would never let her find out that her birth parents tried to kill her.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at November 28, 2015 07:37 PM (iQIUe)

276 Lea the stupidest ok One of stupidest things i ever said to my BIL when he offered me any gun he could teach me to shoot , was no really i don't need a gun too many children in my household to watch.

now he has died (cancer)and his gun collection and loading equipment went to my niece an Obama supporter i'm sure all trashed or given in some do good scheme.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 07:38 PM (jOumW)

277 273 Congrats to Frank Beamer for going out on top. The Hokies beat the Cavs! VaTech will probably play in the Kazakhstan Bowl against Saskatchewan Tech or something but hey, its a bowl game. 23 straight I think for Beamer. Good Luck Coach Beamer, your one of the good ones.
Posted by: Puddleglum at November 28, 2015 07:36 PM (Kyo8L)

--Yes, glad it's another bowl game. Seems also like his replacement is a good one and will retain Bud Foster.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 07:39 PM (vsbNu)

278 @255 http://www.steynonline.com/7322/premature-explodiation

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 28, 2015 07:39 PM (B1TZ/)

279 Posted by: jewells45 at November 28, 2015 07:33 PM (5fvBZ)

..............
Glad to hear that!

Posted by: Molly k. at November 28, 2015 07:39 PM (kM2ec)

280 She'd have to be old enough and on good enough terms to understand it properly - not the birthday cake that reads "You're Adopted!"
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 07:29 PM (bLnSU)

NEVER tell an adopted child that they are anything but adopted.

God still chose his or her parents, both birth and adopted, but in a different way, and ALWAYS make sure he or she understands that he or she was chosen in particular and specially to be part of the family. And irrevocably so.

Otherwise you do the child great harm with the truth comes out, and it will come out.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 28, 2015 07:39 PM (+YMhA)

281 It's pretty common.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 28, 2015 07:36 PM (Nwg0u)

common or not,unless parent is dangerous , child needs the parent. It is stability the child needs and assurance . Just because parents hate eachother is no reason for the child to pay for their irreconcilable shitstorm.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 07:40 PM (jOumW)

282 38 If you were performing abortions and in a circle that discusses the positive nature of harvesting organs while enjoying wine and brie, wouldn't you arm yourself?

Posted by: redenzo

Nah, the arms aren't worth much. its the brain, heart and lungs where the real money's at.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at November 28, 2015 07:41 PM (QdAXQ)

283 Looks like Va Tech is going to hire the current coach of Memphis, Justin Fuente. No idea who he is. Memphis has done well in recent years so I guess he ok.

Posted by: Puddleglum, GO HOKIES! at November 28, 2015 07:41 PM (Kyo8L)

284 NBC News goes full NBC News.

http://tinyurl.com/ndejvzf

Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 28, 2015 07:43 PM (Nwg0u)

285 Welp... gonna go catch up on my shows. Hope everyone had a great T-day and continued blessings on you all. Stay safe.

Posted by: jewells45 at November 28, 2015 07:44 PM (5fvBZ)

286 That's taking going out with a bang a whole new meaning

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, home is where the heart is, on the bus at November 28, 2015 07:44 PM (s0Kry)

287 56 Anything bad that happens at a PP location caused by a third party is like firing a minority. No matter what the thousands of reasons it could be, it will be always be alleged to be only one reason.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky

At 3 abortion procedures per hour interrupted for 6 hours....

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at November 28, 2015 07:44 PM (QdAXQ)

288 Jewell45, I'm so glad it worked out but holy hell, I don't think I could be so forgiving.

>>Lea the stupidest ok One of stupidest things i ever said to my BIL when he offered me any gun he could teach me to shoot , was no really i don't need a gun too many children in my household to watch.

Omg!!!

Posted by: Lea at November 28, 2015 07:46 PM (vmMMi)

289 i know right?
lol

kicks my own rear.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 07:47 PM (jOumW)

290 Otherwise you do the child great harm with the truth comes out, and it will come out.

Add some uncertainty about whether she might actually be the child of your cultural enemy and you pretty much have the plot of the book The Unforgiven right there....

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 28, 2015 07:48 PM (bZ7mE)

291 he absolutely had an arsenal.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 07:49 PM (jOumW)

292 NBC News goes full NBC News.

http://tinyurl.com/ndejvzf

Posted by: The Great White Snark

---

And xie's registered ... as a female. Wonder if xie's a fan of my show?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at November 28, 2015 07:49 PM (B1TZ/)

293 "i cannot imagine doing that to a child purposefully, i went though an extremely ugly divorce , still to deprive a parent/child relationship willfully has to be the worst thing ever as a revenge tactic."

Have you ever read the Ray Bradbury short story "The October Game"?

Posted by: Josephistan at November 28, 2015 07:50 PM (7qAYi)

294 Josephistan,
no

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 07:50 PM (jOumW)

295 Colorado shooter looks like the Unabomber's neighbor.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 28, 2015 07:51 PM (lQqij)

296 Well, obviously, after reading about Mr Dear then everyone who lives alone should be interviewed by county mental health just to be sure they are not a threat to their neighbors or themselves.

Obviously if the county had paid more attention to Mr. Dear and people like him, this terrible tragedy in Colorado Springs would never have happened.

It would be for their own welfare. Except all the mental health facilities were shut down in the seventies because it is better for the patients to live in the community and not be warehoused in a government institution.

Posted by: Woolford Spaulings at November 28, 2015 07:51 PM (itKve)

297 NEVER tell an adopted child that they are anything but adopted.

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They make custom books using your child's name and circumstances to explain their adoption so you can begin to tell them even before they can talk.

We had no choice since our eldest daughter was three when we adopted her and we always told our younger daughter, the biological sister of our eldest. Both were involuntary termination of parental rights kids. Our eldest is kind of screwed up but independent and basically functioning normally. Youngest doesn't seem to be any more peculiar than the average 20 year old.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 28, 2015 07:53 PM (Nwg0u)

298 Poop

Posted by: J. Biden at November 28, 2015 07:54 PM (vsbNu)

299 The Great White Snark

mensch

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 07:54 PM (jOumW)

300 Obviously if the county had paid more attention to Mr. Dear and people like him,

Come to think of it, he would have fit right in here. We have to expand our recruiting.

Posted by: Planned Parenthood at November 28, 2015 07:56 PM (n22zQ)

301 Doo doo

Posted by: Joey Biden at November 28, 2015 07:56 PM (vsbNu)

302 --Go to steynonline.com.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 07:31 PM (vsbNu)

I went there, didn't see a thing about it.

Posted by: Blano at November 28, 2015 07:56 PM (heN73)

303 Hi guys. I'm at week 6 or so of fun employment. Lafayette is a wasteland, the oilfields dead and I can't find anything.

I go see friends with machine shops and they have no work in. I think it's worse than I've ever seen it before.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at November 28, 2015 07:57 PM (P8D8l)

304 32 Really sounds like a bank robbery gone wrong. PP was a random building he sought shelter in to fire at police. Not politically motivated and the mayor is wrong to ASSUME motive when the investigation has barely even begun! Also, again, we need better mental health laws -- we used to until the Dems changed them in the '70s and made it much more difficult to commit the sick. Ever since we've had more homelessness and violence. But of course, it's the guns...
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 28, 2015 05:54 PM (xetep)

___________
If we were to change the laws governing the mentally ill 98% of all Democrats would be committed for life.
Oh wait . . .

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 28, 2015 07:57 PM (lQqij)

305 Willow

It's about a man looking for the most horrible revenge on his wife during a Halloween party. http://www.lib.ru/INOFANT/BRADBURY/october.txt

Posted by: Josephistan at November 28, 2015 07:57 PM (7qAYi)

306 278 @255 http://www.steynonline.com/7322/premature-explodiation
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 28, 2015 07:39 PM (B1TZ/)

And from that link I sawr that Mark Steyn's new album is entitled "Feline Groovy: Songs for Swingin' Cats".

Posted by: rickl at November 28, 2015 07:57 PM (sdi6R)

307
Oh, sheesh! No one is saying to lie to the kid about being adopted. However no child needs to know she was left to die in a hole.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at November 28, 2015 07:57 PM (iQIUe)

308 #235 OMG. I so remember that. I was in my teenage years and the teen girl on there was so amazing to me....because she was a hot teen girl!! Ohhhhhh.....

Yeah, she was definitely a hottie. Some serious bazooms too. Wonder whatever happened to her?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 28, 2015 07:58 PM (HMt16)

309 Wait a minute. I live alone, I do what I like...

Oh shit.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 07:59 PM (92eU9)

310 C'mon back, folks! We have empty tables- no waiting!

Posted by: Planned Parenthood at November 28, 2015 07:59 PM (n22zQ)

311 302 --Go to steynonline.com.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 07:31 PM (vsbNu)

I went there, didn't see a thing about it.
Posted by: Blano at November 28, 2015 07:56 PM (heN73)

--Post #278 has the linky.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 07:59 PM (vsbNu)

312 http://www.steynonline.com/7322/premature-explodiation

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Jeez. My wife and I fight but we don't damage the cars.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 28, 2015 07:59 PM (Nwg0u)

313 Now Joe, I need you to go on a special mission for me ... into the black dormitory restroom.

Posted by: Scatolf Hitler at November 28, 2015 08:00 PM (B1TZ/)

314 I was adopted at 6. I remember the first day of being in new home around the age of 5 and the courthouse when I was six when it was official. Mine was a weird one tho......both mothers had known each other as children and both maternal grandparents were good friends so I always knew I was. I agree that every kid needs to know their story from start to finish.

Posted by: Molly k. at November 28, 2015 08:00 PM (kM2ec)

315 At steyn on line it's under A Bunny in Winter

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2015 08:01 PM (XRpjE)

316 " However no child needs to know she was left to die in a hole."

I would think you could smooth over tha part of it, no pun intended, at least until they're old enough.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 08:01 PM (92eU9)

317 I'm not tryin' to fight with peeps, I just think I'd want to know my past with reasonable accuracy, especially if it was that dramatic and doubly-especially if anyone involved was still out there and might get a bee in their bonnet to finish the job.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 08:02 PM (bLnSU)

318 They're really being cagey with the way they report the gunman story-- very vague, with just enough details to make a casual reader come away with the mistaken impression that he was there to kill PP people.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at November 28, 2015 08:02 PM (oVJmc)

319 Otherwise you do the child great harm with the truth comes out, and it will come out.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 28, 2015 07:39 PM (+YMhA)

I've never understood that, and frankly I don't agree.

It's only in the last generation or so that everybody has to expose every little thing about their past. I think it's safe to assume plenty of adopted kids lived productive lives without knowing who their DNA parents were.

I just don't believe in exposing every little story from one's past, even on big things like adoption, molestation, crime, etc. I find it unsavory for lack of a better word.

Posted by: Blano at November 28, 2015 08:03 PM (heN73)

320 Steyn's cat Marvin is totes adorbs.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 08:03 PM (vsbNu)

321 --Post #278 has the linky.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 07:59 PM (vsbNu)

Got it, thanks.

Posted by: Blano at November 28, 2015 08:04 PM (heN73)

322 Nah, the arms aren't worth much. its the brain, heart and lungs where the real money's at.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn

---

And fresh gonads! We've seen more gonads than the inside of Charlie Sheen's mouth!

Posted by: Deborah Nucatola at November 28, 2015 08:05 PM (B1TZ/)

323
You get a call to pick up a baby at a hospital and you pick it up. That's the truth. There is no reason this little girl needs to know more.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at November 28, 2015 08:05 PM (iQIUe)

324 315 At steyn on line it's under A Bunny in Winter
Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2015 08:01 PM (XRpjE)

--No, it's under "Premature Explodiation"

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 08:05 PM (vsbNu)

325 216 Abandoned newborn baby girl found buried alive under asphalt and rubble by California riverbed

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at November 28, 2015 07:13 PM (iQIUe)

Well... she will have a story to tell.

I might call her Moses. Or Riddick.

____

May a loving family adopt her and raise her. May she start her own family with a loving husband. May she live to see great-grandchildren get married. May she one day find her birthmother that abandoned her this way and beat the holy crap out of her.

Seriously! What monster does this!?!?!

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 28, 2015 08:05 PM (lQqij)

326 >>Ilike movies with Cary grant
Me, too!!

Notorious
Arsenic and Old Lace
Philadelphia Story
North by Northwest

*sigh*

Posted by: Lizzy at November 28, 2015 08:06 PM (NOIQH)

327 Josephistan
that was extremely dark.
and he would definitely be in the 'dangerous' category.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 08:06 PM (jOumW)

328 318 They're really being cagey with the way they report the gunman story-- very vague, with just enough details to make a casual reader come away with the mistaken impression that he was there to kill PP people.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at November 28, 2015 08:02 PM (oVJmc)

Except that he didn't, but the LIVs don't need to know that.

Posted by: The MSM at November 28, 2015 08:06 PM (sdi6R)

329 The story of the Russian MP is under Premature Explodation

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2015 08:07 PM (XRpjE)

330 So now the "media" is saying when arrested he said "no more baby parts."? Has anyone one else heard this or is just another Lib lie?

Posted by: donna at November 28, 2015 08:07 PM (/dSsq)

331 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 28, 2015 08:07 PM (KCxzN)

332 I just don't believe in exposing every little story from one's past, even on big things like adoption, molestation, crime, etc. I find it unsavory for lack of a better word.
Posted by: Blano at November 28, 2015 08:03 PM (heN73)

sometimes there are hereditary health issues that might need to be addressed.

and secrets are hard to keep for others outside the loop of quiet.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 08:08 PM (jOumW)

333 I went back in.my history and wrote down the wrong title. I need my computer back.

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2015 08:09 PM (XRpjE)

334 Man from Snowy, what you do?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 08:10 PM (RbfRI)

335 On the adoption line of thought. Just peeked at WZ and it's pretty clear that Obama's oldest daughter is her mothers spawn. Has the same expression...

Posted by: Molly k. at November 28, 2015 08:11 PM (kM2ec)

336 You can drop off unwanted babies at fire stations and hospital doorsteps with no questions asked, I assume. Why would anyone want to bury an infant? Sick people.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 08:11 PM (mUa7N)

337 Stalin's citizens got stuck with him, they had no choice.
But we chose you Barry, honey, because we wanted you!

Posted by: LIVs to little orphan Barry at November 28, 2015 08:15 PM (B1TZ/)

338 335 and he always looks stoned.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2015 08:15 PM (lLEPt)

339 NBC News goes full NBC News.

http://tinyurl.com/ndejvzf

Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 28, 2015 07:43 PM (Nwg0u)

Was their reliable source Harry Reid?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2015 08:16 PM (45oDG)

340 323
You get a call to pick up a baby at a hospital and you pick it up. That's the truth. There is no reason this little girl needs to know more.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at November 28, 2015 08:05 PM (iQIUe)

-------

While I am inclined to agree with telling children they are adopted, as we have slowly done with our son. In this case I am going with Bruce With a Wang!. Zoe would be a great name, it's Greek for "life".

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 28, 2015 08:16 PM (lQqij)

341 May a loving family adopt her and raise her. May she start her own family with a loving husband. May she live to see great-grandchildren get married.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 28, 2015 08:05 PM (lQqij)

what could be in the list of greater things then to nurture a life, even if it did not /could not come from your own dnA?

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 08:17 PM (jOumW)

342 326 >>Ilike movies with Cary grant
Me, too!!

Notorious
Arsenic and Old Lace
Philadelphia Story
North by Northwest

Posted by: Lizzy at November 28, 2015 08:06 PM (NOIQH)

Bringing up Baby
My Favorite Wife
Mr Blandings Builds His Dream House
Father Goose
His Gal Friday

Posted by: Caliban at November 28, 2015 08:17 PM (3GFMN)

343 >>She'd have to be old enough and on good enough terms to understand it
properly - not the birthday cake that reads "You're Adopted!"

Yep. My hubby was adopted into a large family, and you know you're different. Genetics are so strong, you just don;t realize how easy it is to live w/people who look, act, think (like sense of humor) you until you meet someone who was adopted. It's not that there isn't love and acceptance, just moments where my hubby thinks, "who ARE these people?"

Love to hear family reconciliation stories JJ and Jewel!
My mom and her sister stopped talking when I was in high school (messy death in the family). Seven years later mom reached out, they reconciled, and the first meeting was at Thanksgiving. We spent every Thanksgiving at my aunt's for the next 21 years until she passed. So many treasured memories!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 28, 2015 08:17 PM (NOIQH)

344 Well, gotta hit the rack. Up early to pay the yankee reconstruction tax.

Posted by: Eromero at November 28, 2015 08:17 PM (b+df9)

345 chai

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 08:18 PM (jOumW)

346 A lot of times "family" has nothing to do with blood. Sometimes it time and energy.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 08:19 PM (FbA9R)

347 Watching Our Lady vs Stanford. These university ads are absolutely hilarious.

Posted by: Caliban at November 28, 2015 08:19 PM (3GFMN)

348 Ricardo and friends that are more family than not.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 08:20 PM (jOumW)

349 Hi guys. I'm at week 6 or so of fun employment. Lafayette is a wasteland, the oilfields dead and I can't find anything.

I go see friends with machine shops and they have no work in. I think it's worse than I've ever seen it before.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at November 28, 2015 07:57 PM (P8D8l)

Sorry to hear that. The economy/job market are in rotten shape in spite of the lies of government stats and MFM

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2015 08:20 PM (45oDG)

350 Apparently FSU is playing the Bills.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 08:22 PM (Klspp)

351 >>A lot of times "family" has nothing to do with blood. Sometimes it time and energy.

Amen! Growing up I only had 1 living grandparent and she was spectacularly unpleasant. We had local family friends who were more loving grandparents than she was, and I'm so grateful that I had them.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 28, 2015 08:24 PM (NOIQH)

352 " Ricardo and friends that are more family than not."

I had more fun visiting friends this T'Giving. It was a hoot.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 08:25 PM (Klspp)

353 whew, this is a heavy topic for a saturday night.

snowy mountain, don't give up, good jobs are hard to find , i believe we have some sort of informal job finding thing here, ask in the weekday /daytime if anyone knows of possibilities in your area, or knows someone.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 08:25 PM (jOumW)

354 Damn, I thought I had it hard growing up (I could write a book) but after reading some of the hordes stories, I had it pretty good.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 08:26 PM (mUa7N)

355 FSU draws first blood, 3-0

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 08:26 PM (vsbNu)

356 This abandonment story reminds me of another years ago. High school girl gave birth at a prom, dumped the baby in the garbage, cleaned up, and went back to party. Baby died. She was charged with murder. Not sure if that would still be the case, as there are now late term abortions/partial birth abortions permitted. And that woman in Canada who was cleared of murder after killibg her own infants. Peter Singer seems to have won out in influencing legal thinking.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 28, 2015 08:26 PM (B1TZ/)

357 Ricardo, i know there are moments when i wish i could just hang out with like minded people on important days.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2015 08:27 PM (jOumW)

358
So now the "media" is saying when arrested he said "no more baby
parts."? Has anyone one else heard this or is just another Lib lie?

Posted by: donna at November 28, 2015 08:07 PM (/dSsq)

Even if he never said it, the MFM will claim it any way. The have to make this fit the agenda

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2015 08:27 PM (45oDG)

359 Watching Our Lady vs Stanford.

I had no idea that the Virgin Mary played football. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 28, 2015 08:30 PM (No/ki)

360 You can drop off unwanted babies at fire stations
and hospital doorsteps with no questions asked.

Posted by: Ronster

Not to mention, creches being erected from coast to coast, as we speak.
Anyone with a nativity scene in the yard, make sure to check it each night.
__________________
The economy/job market are in rotten shape in spite of the lies of government stats and MFM. Posted by: TheQuietMan

You sound just like our late friend Backhoe. He was right, and so are you.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 28, 2015 08:30 PM (xq1UY)

361 Wait, Backhoe died. How did I miss that?

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2015 08:33 PM (lLEPt)

362 Well, gotta hit the rack. Up early to pay the yankee reconstruction tax.

Posted by: Eromero

---

No, it's sack. Hit the sack. I've seen that mistake before, thought is was a typo, but now I'm concerned. Rack iss boobs. Lay off the booze and bathsalts, people.

Posted by: Idiom Nazi at November 28, 2015 08:33 PM (B1TZ/)

363
You cant leave a newborn outside or even inside a church creche. It is too cold. Babies blood glucose levels plunge and they end up seizing and dying.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at November 28, 2015 08:33 PM (iQIUe)

364 I was accused by a liberal on twitter today that I was using "right wing sources" when I pointed out that no PP staff or clients were harmed... I replied that my source was PP itself, and since when are they "right wing"? LOL.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 28, 2015 08:34 PM (xetep)

365 Gators eat boogers

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 08:34 PM (vsbNu)

366 Even if he never said it, the MFM will claim it any way. The have to make this fit the agenda

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2015 08:27 PM (45oDG)

I read a report that a cop said he said that during interrogation -- but it was amidst a lot of rambling and he wasn't sure if it prove anything wrt motive.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 28, 2015 08:35 PM (xetep)

367 @359 Fenelon, apparently she's a play caller. Both Boston College and Ohio State's management have gotten famous for stating they won't play the Little Sisters of The Poor. I presume they know the sisters would kick their keisters.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 28, 2015 08:36 PM (xq1UY)

368 I was accused by a liberal on twitter today that I was using "right wing sources" when I pointed out that no PP staff or clients were harmed... I replied that my source was PP itself, and since when are they "right wing"? LOL.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl
****

How dare you throw reality in their face? Have you no decency?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at November 28, 2015 08:36 PM (hVdx9)

369 You sound just like our late friend Backhoe. He was right, and so are you.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 28, 2015 08:30 PM (xq1UY)

Took me over a year to find a job. Fortunately the company I was working for (while being sold) stayed in business long enough until I found a new one. But so many companies aren't hiring for a number of reasons including Barry Care. We aren't at record low job participation rates because everything is peachy. It's going to eventually effect the economy to the point were they can't cover it up any more.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2015 08:36 PM (45oDG)

370 My parents didn't tell me I was adopted until I was 18. It came as a complete surprise. I never expected it. And it didn't really affect me all that much. I don't believe they ever lied to me about it, because it never really came up.

I had a "sister" who was also adopted. In her case, she learned in high school that her blood type meant that it was impossible for our adoptive parents to be her birth parents. Apparently they deflected her questions and she got pissed off about it.

Thinking back on it, I can't fault our parents for waiting so long to tell us. Since she and I were completely unrelated, if we had learned earlier our teenage years could have gotten, um, complicated.

I never tried to find my birth parents. Of course I've always been curious, but I figured it was water under the bridge.

As for the girl who was left to die, I would tell her when she was mature enough to handle the truth, if I thought she was psychologically strong enough. That's a pretty remarkable and miraculous story. Maybe after telling her about the ancient Roman custom of getting rid of unwanted children by "exposure".

Posted by: rickl at November 28, 2015 08:36 PM (sdi6R)

371 359 I had no idea that the Virgin Mary played football. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 28, 2015 08:30 PM (No/ki)

Apparently she has a problem with the Cardinals

Posted by: Caliban at November 28, 2015 08:36 PM (3GFMN)

372 No, it's sack. Hit the sack. I've seen that mistake before, thought is was a typo, but now I'm concerned. Rack iss boobs. Lay off the booze and bathsalts, people.
Posted by: Idiom Nazi

Hitting the sack is more painful than hitting the rack.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 28, 2015 08:37 PM (FkBIv)

373 http://tinyurl.com/owa3ppeAllahu Quackbar

Posted by: jimmytheclaw at November 28, 2015 08:38 PM (4YRQl)

374 @363 It happened two days ago. There's been a freshly-minted "Father Todd" type from the parish, all over Fox blessing everyone concerned. No charges filed.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 28, 2015 08:38 PM (xq1UY)

375 Hitting the sack doesn't hurt me, but it's not my sack getting hit.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at November 28, 2015 08:39 PM (hVdx9)

376 "Ricardo, i know there are moments when i wish i could just hang out with like minded people on important days."

It's fun. My "sister" who is really not a sister but just the best friend and I tear shit up. Up.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 08:40 PM (07ql1)

377 TKAW woke up.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 08:42 PM (07ql1)

378 @370
I'm not the only adopted here I see. I have met my birth parents. Told birth dad to go to hell. Feel bad for birth mom and try to update her every year or so on what's going on. She was a f**k up but without her I wouldn't be here I guess

Posted by: Molly k. at November 28, 2015 08:42 PM (kM2ec)

379 TD!!!!!!!!!!

'Noles 10 Gaytors 0

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 08:43 PM (vsbNu)

380 My "Dad" did not actually provide my DNA and the one who did way back when was never in the picture.

I was told in my late teens I had the ok to go see him if I wanted to, anytime. I just thought "WTF dude you never bothered, why should I?"

And I never did.

Posted by: Blano at November 28, 2015 08:44 PM (heN73)

381 It seems perfectly reasonable to me that the shooter was high on cannabis and was just looking for a little snack. Dead baby parts maybe. They sell them there, right? Sure they do. And failing to find a snack, he went all bug-fuck and trailer-park-white-trash on everyone and decided he would rather live somewhere with flush toilets and better smells than his cabin in the woods. Obviously a damn Democrat moocher looking for a free meal!

Posted by: goon at November 28, 2015 08:45 PM (gy5kE)

382 @373 Cair will no doubt say that is bigoted and they should mock ISIS some other way. But HOW? ISIS HAS no distinctives apart from Islam related characteristics, including their name.

Posted by: Idiom Nazi at November 28, 2015 08:46 PM (B1TZ/)

383 I read a report that a cop said he said that during
interrogation -- but it was amidst a lot of rambling and he wasn't sure
if it prove anything wrt motive.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 28, 2015 08:35 PM (xetep)

It seems highly suspicious to me and all too convenient.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2015 08:46 PM (45oDG)

384 378 @370
I'm not the only adopted here I see. I have met my birth parents. Told birth dad to go to hell. Feel bad for birth mom and try to update her every year or so on what's going on. She was a f**k up but without her I wouldn't be here I guess
Posted by: Molly k. at November 28, 2015 08:42 PM (kM2ec)

Yeah, that's the thing. I was kind of afraid of what I might find.

I was born in the 50s, so I think my birth mother was probably either a teenage girl who "got in trouble", a prostitute, or a rape victim.

I certainly have never wished her any ill. As for my father, see above. That would depend. At any rate, I ended up with good adoptive parents.

Posted by: rickl at November 28, 2015 08:48 PM (sdi6R)

385 There is a certain advantage in not being on Twitter or Facebook except to read Iowahawk or Ace's tweets sometimes. I don't have it argue with a bunch of people that I either know or don't know..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 28, 2015 08:49 PM (No/ki)

386 "And I never did."

Sorry there, Blano, just aspire to be a better person than they.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 08:49 PM (MTKLG)

387 Ditto, Quiet. They set up a "Joint Information Center" (dude!) to control press access, and won't even release names of the dead pending CYA autopsy, but a cop can relate what was babbled in interrogation? Not buying it. Throwing sand.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 28, 2015 08:49 PM (xq1UY)

388 They set up a "Joint Information Center"

It's right next to the Bong Coordination Head Quarters.

Posted by: freaked at November 28, 2015 08:55 PM (BO/km)

389 So...it appears all the people killed by the Colo Shooter,....
opposed abortion....

Posted by: Judas Washington at November 28, 2015 08:56 PM (hCdMd)

390 Watching To Kill a Mockingbird. Never have seen it.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2015 08:59 PM (lLEPt)

391 Well the WaPo has decided to take it from source to confirmed. The whole f-ing article reads like a press release from PP

The man suspected of storming a Planned Parenthood clinic and killing a police officer and two others in Colorado on Friday told the officers who arrested him "no more baby parts," after being taken into custody, according to a law enforcement official.
The attack on the clinic was "definitely politically motivated," the official - who was briefed on the investigation and spoke on condition of anonymity because it is still unfolding

Wanna bet "the official" is a raging leftist and is making this up and the MFM is only too glad to run with it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2015 08:59 PM (45oDG)

392 OT: Kroil comes in a metal can with a metal cap. And mine's stuck.

I can't open my Kroil in order to open my Kroil!

Posted by: t-bird at November 28, 2015 09:01 PM (w/iDp)

393 I think we're all a litlte punch drunk.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 09:01 PM (yFgIS)

394 Smoking weed makes you smarter!

Posted by: That stoner that always says... at November 28, 2015 09:01 PM (Dwehj)

395 told the officers who arrested him "no more baby parts,"

Maybe he meant he wouldn't be in the market for them anymore.

Posted by: t-bird at November 28, 2015 09:02 PM (w/iDp)

396 I put on my cold weather jacket to go shopping, and found a shopping receipt in a pocket, from 11/28/13, which was surprising.

It has for November 2013:
Blue Bonnet margarine $.83
Bandon Cheddar cheese (2lb loaf) $4.93
Pint of greek yogurt $2.48
18 Ct large eggs $2.83

I bought 18 eggs for $3.82 today, and the price of cheese is sinful, even the 2nd class brand like Bandon.

There is no inflation though. Nope.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2015 09:02 PM (q2o38)

397 can't open my Kroil in order to open my Kroil!

You are in big trouble. Glad nothing that bad has ever happened to me.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 09:04 PM (mUa7N)

398 Yeah, I thought you were going in the "Senators are aliens" direction.

Although honestly....

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at November 28, 2015 09:04 PM (9JJgN)

399 I heard that this guy "identified as a woman". Maybe this is just a real bad case of PMS.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at November 28, 2015 09:05 PM (Sda6L)

400 Watching To Kill a Mockingbird. Never have seen it.

Posted by: Infidel

---

A conservative sees it and thinks, "scapegoating the innocent is evil". A liberal sees it and thinks, "white people are evil, and must be stopped by any means, including scapegoating the innocent". They always fixate on the wrong thing.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 28, 2015 09:05 PM (B1TZ/)

401 Sorry there, Blano, just aspire to be a better person than they.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 08:49 PM (MTKLG)

Thanks Ricardo. Still working on it, but my kids seem pretty pleased with it all.

Posted by: Blano at November 28, 2015 09:07 PM (heN73)

402 Just noticed that I can change the speaker volume from my keyboard. I'm a slow learner.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 09:07 PM (mUa7N)

403 There are no safe spaces in Colorado.

Posted by: U of Missou Snowflake at November 28, 2015 09:09 PM (Dwehj)

404 Leftists hate society. They always want to destroy it.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at November 28, 2015 09:09 PM (hVdx9)

405 Okay, gotta say. This thread sucks. No reason for it to take minutes to see a response.

Pixy needs a kick in the nuts.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 09:09 PM (vZAfe)

406 mich st giving the points was my lead pipe cinch lock of the day.

just saying.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 28, 2015 09:09 PM (WTSFk)

407 A conservative sees it and thinks, "scapegoating the innocent is evil". A liberal sees it and thinks, "white people are evil, and must be stopped by any means, including scapegoating the innocent". They always fixate on the wrong thing.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 28, 2015 09:05 PM (B1TZ/)

I think it's going to remind me of "A Time to Kill."

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2015 09:10 PM (lLEPt)

408 Just noticed that I can change the speaker volume from my keyboard. I'm a slow learner.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 09:07 PM (mUa7N)

Ok, how do you do that?

Posted by: Blano at November 28, 2015 09:10 PM (heN73)

409 399 I heard that this guy "identified as a woman". Maybe this is just a real bad case of PMS.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at November 28, 2015 09:05 PM (Sda6L)

58 years old and still no period, you can bet he's built up to it...

Posted by: lizardbrain at November 28, 2015 09:10 PM (EXDjY)

410
The man suspected of storming a Planned Parenthood clinic and killing a police officer and two others in Colorado on Friday told the officers who arrested him "no more baby parts," after being taken into custody, according to a law enforcement official.
The attack on the clinic was "definitely politically motivated," the official - who was briefed on the investigation and spoke on condition of anonymity because it is still unfolding

So why didn't he kill any of the PP people and instead shot outside?

Posted by: donna at November 28, 2015 09:10 PM (/dSsq)

411 Ricardo I'm sort of a jack of all trades, I spent something like 18 years designing tools for oilfield inspection, I'm a fair mech. draftsman, I've taken classes in machining and Cnc, but not enough for all the "3 years running a Cnc mill" jobs. My last job was in shipping/receiving at a pipeyard but the work dried up.

Anyway, I often feel like.I've been frozen and then thawed out in a dystopian version of idiocracy where all the hard-line communists left Russia after 1992/and came to the west to be Business Consultants.
Everything seems so damn bureaucratic.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at November 28, 2015 09:10 PM (CjrII)

412 I think we're all a litlte punch drunk.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 09:01 PM (yFgIS)

I can only blame my stupidity and wine, mostly stupidity.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 09:11 PM (mUa7N)

413 There is no inflation though. Nope.
Posted by: Kindltot

I heard economist Larry Kudlow say we have deflation.
Prices are going down. Almost full employment. We need to import brainiac workers.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 28, 2015 09:11 PM (FkBIv)

414 The attack on the clinic was "definitely politically motivated,"

...as is the investigation.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at November 28, 2015 09:12 PM (Dwehj)

415 "Still working on it, but my kids seem pretty pleased with it all."

Glad your kids are doing okay. Heck of a job, B. I don't know if I coulda done that.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 09:12 PM (f2ZBB)

416 Pixy needs a kick in the nuts.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 09:09 PM (vZAfe)

I haven't had any issues tonight.

I asked this last night, but didn't see an answer: is there a way to go back and forth from the WatchESPN app to your browser without the app kicking off? Every time I want to read the HQ I have to go out of it, and it stops.

Posted by: Blano at November 28, 2015 09:12 PM (heN73)

417 Leftists depend on the forbearance of society for their continued existence. They have no identity outside society. They always want to destroy it anyway.

PB Blaster is the best product to open a stuck can of Kroil. Get some today!

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 28, 2015 09:13 PM (xq1UY)

418 Hmm. Ted Nugent apparently liked Mark Steyn's cover of "Cat Scratch Fever":

http://www.steynonline.com/6639/marginalia

Posted by: rickl at November 28, 2015 09:13 PM (sdi6R)

419 Well, just got a call, guess I'm doing a test drive tomorrow. May sell the '96 Yukon which I love for an '04 Denali. Not sure yet. Maybe I should do some research on the Kelley Blue Book.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2015 09:13 PM (lLEPt)

420 If he said no more baby parts it would be headlines

I doubt he said it

Posted by: ThunderB at November 28, 2015 09:13 PM (zOTsN)

421 At halftime still 'Noles 10 Gaytors 0.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 09:13 PM (vsbNu)

422 "this guy" identified as a "female"

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at November 28, 2015 09:14 PM (0O7c5)

423 Ok, how do you do that?
Posted by: Blano at November 28, 2015 09:10 PM (heN73)

Maybe your keyboard doesn't have the option. Mine is on the most top right corner of the keyboard. Never noticed it until today. Only took a year.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 09:15 PM (mUa7N)

424 We still don't know if the attack originated at the PP or somewhere else and He ran in there....

Posted by: donna at November 28, 2015 09:15 PM (/dSsq)

425 And that woman in Canada who was cleared of murder
after killibg her own infants. Peter Singer seems to have won out in
influencing legal thinking.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 28, 2015 08:26 PM (B1TZ/)

That Subway guy got 15 years in jail. As a Canadian, I tried to imagine what crimes I'd have to commit to get 15 years in jail - keeping in mind I would point out my spotless record, deep sorrow and could probably pull 'transgender confusion and anger' or something out of my ass to help my case.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 28, 2015 09:16 PM (AC0lD)

426 "Everything seems so damn bureaucratic. "

God dam, you got some skills. Oil field. Think about moving? Midland/Odessa?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 09:16 PM (MACAW)

427 If it was definitely politically motivated the chief of police would have said so.

I call bullshit. Why didn't he kill the people in the clinic then?

Something is not making sense here

Posted by: ThunderB at November 28, 2015 09:17 PM (zOTsN)

428 The "female" was from a voter registration file. Some civil servant could have screwed up. They all do, you know. All the time, every single one. And it seems to happen every night at the same time, right after Skip's mailman leaves.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 28, 2015 09:18 PM (xq1UY)

429 So why didn't he kill any of the PP people and instead shot outside?

Posted by: donna at November 28, 2015 09:10 PM (/dSsq)

Funny how there's no mention of that in the story. It's all just and I quote "anti-choice" rhetoric has increased violence directed at PP

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2015 09:18 PM (45oDG)

430 May I point out that Kudlow is a delusional idiot?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2015 09:20 PM (q2o38)

431 Bummer. Romanian AK importation to stop at least until summer of next year. Darned military contracts.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at November 28, 2015 09:20 PM (hVdx9)

432 So who were the victims then?

And as long as motive is important when can we read the Merced stabbers manifesto?

Posted by: ThunderB at November 28, 2015 09:20 PM (zOTsN)

433 PB Blaster is the best product to open a stuck can of Kroil. Get some today!

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 28, 2015 09:13 PM (xq1UY)

I must say, I thought the ads for PB Blaster were hooey, but that darn stuff works!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 28, 2015 09:21 PM (ftVQq)

434 No I'm sorry. Dude has a beard and makes no effort to comport himself as a lady.

He merely checked a box on a voting registration form as identifying as female, but he's crzay. That could have been a brainfart. Sorry if you think I'm being insensitive, but I will continue to refer to him using masculine pronouns.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at November 28, 2015 09:22 PM (B1TZ/)

435 If it was definitely politically motivated the chief of police would have said so.

I call bullshit. Why didn't he kill the people in the clinic then?

Something is not making sense here

Posted by: ThunderB at November 28, 2015 09:17 PM (zOTsN)

I also found it odd that yesterday the It's Pat cop was asked about him being by the Chase bank and she vehemently denied it. How did she know he wasn't anywhere near the bank? Was she on the scene from the start? Did she talk to every witness?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2015 09:22 PM (45oDG)

436 TB, he wasn't a political shooter.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 09:22 PM (Yqjqf)

437 Infidel at November 28, 2015 09:13 PM (lLEPt)

Be careful of some of those smaller GM v6's. Trouble could be lurking. I would do a search on the internet to read about some of the problems. I am not a mechanic.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 09:23 PM (mUa7N)

438 Something is not making sense here

Posted by: ThunderB

You need to lower your expectations!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 28, 2015 09:23 PM (ftVQq)

439 Maybe your keyboard doesn't have the option. Mine is on the most top right corner of the keyboard. Never noticed it until today. Only took a year.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 09:15 PM (mUa7N)

Lol, I just now noticed the little volume up, down, and on/off pictures on the F9/F10/F11 buttons. I've had this laptop almost 2 years.

Silly me.

Posted by: Blano at November 28, 2015 09:23 PM (heN73)

440 I think he is nuts. I will accept he wasn't trying to rob a bank. Who did he kill? If he didn't kill any clients or workers at PPHood, it's because he didn't want to. He surely could have easily

Posted by: ThunderB at November 28, 2015 09:24 PM (zOTsN)

441 The headline in My small town newsrag has the "no more baby parts." True or not I guess the Libs finally got what they want...

Posted by: donna at November 28, 2015 09:25 PM (/dSsq)

442 QuietMan, she's the department public information officer. She's said stuff in news articles and TV spots on all subjects, all over the state. Wasn't claiming personal knowledge, just doing what press secretaries do. "Official version."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 28, 2015 09:26 PM (xq1UY)

443 It seems a crime-of-chance. Wandered into a PP office out of accident.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 09:27 PM (pCMK4)

444 Mac keyboards have dedicated keys for controlling the audio.

/smug

Posted by: rickl at November 28, 2015 09:27 PM (sdi6R)

445 It seems a crime-of-chance. Wandered into a PP office out of accident.

Doesn't fit the Libs agenda..... No, the "media" is running with the no baby parts thing... We'll probably never know the truth...

Posted by: donna at November 28, 2015 09:28 PM (/dSsq)

446 PB Blaster is the shiz nit (if that is indeed the phrase the kids are still using)

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 28, 2015 09:28 PM (KCxzN)

447 >>inflation though. Nope.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2015 09:02 PM (q2o3

Looking at a southern living recipe that used a box cake mix from 1998 the other day and the boxed cake was listed at over 18 ozs.

Today they are around 25 ozs a box.

Sugar comes in a 4 rather than 5 lb container. And everything else is shrinking too.

Posted by: Lea at November 28, 2015 09:28 PM (vmMMi)

448 "Lol, I just now noticed the little volume up, down, and on/off pictures on the F9/F10/F11 buttons. I've had this laptop almost 2 years.

Silly me."

High-tech shit.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 09:29 PM (pCMK4)

449 So who did he kill or harm? Either PPHood is telling the truth and he didn't hurt anyone at the clinic, or they are lying. Why would they lie? Are they trying to protect the privacy of the people who use and work at the clinic? If it is true he didn't hurt anyone at the clinic the narrative does not hold

Posted by: ThunderB at November 28, 2015 09:30 PM (zOTsN)

450 It seems a crime-of-chance. Wandered into a PP office out of accident.

Doesn't fit the Libs agenda..... No, the "media" is running with
the no baby parts thing... We'll probably never know the truth...

Posted by: donna at November 28, 2015 09:28 PM (/dSsq)

Exactly. This guy could have said he was shooting at Martians because they are taking baby parts back to Mars and the MFM will run with it as an attack against precious PP

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2015 09:30 PM (45oDG)

451 @433 Just threw that out there. I like Kroil, and usually find WD40 sufficient for my nut-loosening needs. But my mechanic gave me a can of PB before it was widely advertised, when I had a "sprung trunion" on the deuce. It's non-flammable. You can apply heat, even pretty severe heat, on the heat'n'beat side of the equation, in cases where the usual light-distillate based lubes would just flame off. So, for the hard cases, it is really good.

I would not apply heat to that Kroil lid, just as a for instance.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 28, 2015 09:32 PM (xq1UY)

452 I agree, PB Blaster is the best. Still not magic, but close.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 09:32 PM (mUa7N)

453 I'm thinking of moving to either New Orleans or Houston where I can prob. Swing crash space.

I'm logging for the night, my phone is out of quarters as it were.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at November 28, 2015 09:32 PM (CjrII)

454 As I said this morning, the mugshot indicates that he is bugfuck crazy, and he had no more political motivation than my cat does when she harfs up a hairball on the carpet.

Posted by: rickl at November 28, 2015 09:33 PM (sdi6R)

455 91 Seeing as this has morphed into a gum thread, a hypothetical question: If you had to choose between a .455 Webley Mark I and a Mauser C96, which would you choose, and why?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 06:30 PM (7MWCL)

Webley, since it's a .45 and a top break revolver and I've always wanted one of those.

Posted by: J. Random Dude at November 28, 2015 09:33 PM (C9lNt)

456 "lead pipe cinch lock of the day"

just wanted today that.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 28, 2015 09:34 PM (WTSFk)

457 Be careful of some of those smaller GM v6's. Trouble could be lurking. I would do a search on the internet to read about some of the problems. I am not a mechanic.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 09:23 PM (mUa7N)

Thanks Ronster. I know the history. I am in possession of the title. It was bought by a family friend who buys a new vehicle every year for the business. Dad and his business partner buy them when they are six years old for his business. Always kept up. Just going to be a change, but the Yukon has over 230,000 K on it and is going to start to fall apart. I will only have to pay 3k for it and maybe can get 1500 for mine.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2015 09:35 PM (lLEPt)

458 just wanted to say [not today].

never mind.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 28, 2015 09:36 PM (WTSFk)

459 Mac keyboards have dedicated keys for controlling the audio.

/smug
Posted by: rickl at November 28, 2015 09:27 PM (sdi6R)

I have a Microsoft keyboard and it has dedicated keys. So there.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 09:37 PM (mUa7N)

460 "I'm logging for the night, "

All right, snowy.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 09:37 PM (LmBlo)

461 here is a video, apparently it is an Egyptian talking head program talking about Obama talking about the dangers of climate change.

My favorite line? "Is he on drugs?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXodRLLkth4

Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2015 09:38 PM (q2o38)

462 All this time we're talking and sharing our rational view
A billion other voices are spreading other news
All this time we're living and trying to understand
Why a billion other choices are making their demands

Talk of a Peaceable Kingdom
Talk of a time without fear
The ones we wish would listen
Are never going to hear

Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at November 28, 2015 09:41 PM (m9V0o)

463 PB Blaster sounds like the name of a candy bar.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 28, 2015 09:42 PM (FkBIv)

464 I'm watching the Florida Gatrs... they have no O.

Sigh, they're gonna get flattened by Alabama.

Posted by: locarno at November 28, 2015 09:43 PM (Bbik+)

465 here is a video, apparently it is an Egyptian
talking head program talking about Obama talking about the dangers of
climate change.

My favorite line? "Is he on drugs?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXodRLLkth4

Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2015 09:38 PM (q2o3

"My eight year old daughter has bigger biceps than him."

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2015 09:43 PM (45oDG)

466
Only thing better than PB is the hot wrench.

But what is Kroil?

Posted by: irongrampa at November 28, 2015 09:43 PM (jeCnD)

467 466
Only thing better than PB is the hot wrench.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 28, 2015 09:43 PM (jeCnD)

I read that as "hot wench".

Posted by: rickl at November 28, 2015 09:45 PM (sdi6R)

468 Hmmm. Here's a local news story that didn't make the big time. Imagine if the race were otherwise.

http://tinyurl.com/jymlngv

Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 28, 2015 09:46 PM (Nwg0u)

469 Ok, maybe he thought it was a sex change clinic and really said, "I don't want my baby making parts no more".

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at November 28, 2015 09:46 PM (B1TZ/)

470 @463 You'd have loved the Isoamyl acetate we used before we had PB.
There's chemists here so I'll let them explain.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 28, 2015 09:47 PM (xq1UY)

471 That video is a doozy, Kndltot.

Posted by: bruce at November 28, 2015 09:47 PM (E+ah4)

472 But what is Kroil?

Older brand. Lots of suspended carbon if I remember right. May still be in business. Not near as good as PB.

Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2015 09:49 PM (mUa7N)

473 B Blaster sounds like the name of a candy bar.

-
I thought it was an automatic peanut butter sammich maker.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 28, 2015 09:49 PM (Nwg0u)

474 That video is a doozy, Kndltot.

Also a parody, I believe. It has been around for awhile.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 28, 2015 09:49 PM (bZ7mE)

475 Geez, chickens, cheese, couches, toasters, what's nex- Hey! Stop that!

Posted by: The Horse at November 28, 2015 09:51 PM (eUK5G)

476 Anyone remember "Batter Blaster" (pancake mix in a spray can)?

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at November 28, 2015 09:52 PM (EHU9F)

477 nood ONT

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at November 28, 2015 09:53 PM (EHU9F)

478 I would not apply heat to that Kroil lid, just as a for instance.

No, never, it's quite vapor-y. I just used a light squeeze on my vise-grips, by the way, to get it undone. Cracked loose as if they used loctite on it.

I don't remember anymore if this is the proper meaning of the word, but "Ironic!" sure popped into my head.

Posted by: t-bird at November 28, 2015 09:54 PM (w/iDp)

479 Gotta hasta.

Menana, pendejers.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 28, 2015 09:54 PM (uU+La)

480 @476 No I most certainly do not and if I did I would not mention it on the next comment after "The Horse" IYGWIM.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 28, 2015 09:55 PM (xq1UY)

481 That video is a doozy, Kndltot.

Posted by: bruce

A comment a few lines down indicates that it's a hoax, a prank, by the guy that posted it.

Still funny. I laughed out loud.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...now older and senile at November 28, 2015 09:56 PM (+1T7c)

482 the notre dame/stanford game is quite a contest.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 28, 2015 09:56 PM (WTSFk)

483 No, I thought a parody was supposed to be funny or thought provoking.

What you are saying is that it is Agitprop, right?

A callous attempt to affect the thinking of people to support or reject some political position or another through lies, distortion and misrepresentation, sometimes by fabrication of events and frankly lying about staged events?

Cool. Prove it, I would like to know who is trying to lie me into supporting them, who is staging events and trying to distract me from what is important and immediate to the survival of my country and my friends.

Be a friend, be a buddy, show me proof.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2015 09:57 PM (q2o38)

484 Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2015 09:38 PM (q2o3

That was funny! And sad at the same time.

Posted by: USA at November 28, 2015 10:05 PM (tfM+W)

485 Be a friend, be a buddy, show me proof.

It has been at least a year, probably several, since I first saw it and I don't remember details. I think it may have been put out by that Israeli satirical group that did the goofy "newcasts," Three Terrors Song, and the skit wherein the FBI searched in vain for a motive for the Boston Marathon bombings (Lachmi, Lakmi, something like that?), but I don't remember for sure.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 28, 2015 10:18 PM (bZ7mE)

486 Testing.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Nie Mój Cyrk, Nie Moje Małpy at November 28, 2015 10:32 PM (m9V0o)

487 Logical, logical! Please explain!

Posted by: Norman with a beard at November 29, 2015 01:36 AM (ccNyn)

488 No more baby parts???
Doesn't sound like a PP supporter to me

Posted by: Righter at November 29, 2015 06:19 AM (pUcjZ)

489 So then, when he said to the cops, "No more baby parts!", it was because he'd ate 'em all up?

Funny, he didn't look at all like Fat Bastard.

Posted by: Thx For The Fish & Online Porn at November 30, 2015 02:55 AM (lqeGC)

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