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How the Media Turned Trump Into a Nazi at 11 pm Last Night, And Then How His Nazi Status Was Confirmed By Not Commenting Until 1:53 Today
Joel Pollack runs down the latest silly shit from, let's be frank, the people who support Marco Rubio and who do not quite wish to make this plain, so they just attack the other candidates as "crazy" and hope people notice the one candidate who isn't crazy.
I just spent an hour on Twitter trying to keep the #MarcoMob from stampeding everyone into accepting their presumptions. A major argument was that because Trump hadn't yet knocked the story down, he must actually be standing by his words. Remember, this was an 11 pm story last night. Here was one of my main arguments from joining the stampede:well my commenters told me 1, the media lies, always and 2, observe the 24 hour rule, and... they have been right too many times to count
— TheModernMan (@AceofSpadesHQ) November 20, 2015I didn't suggest a database-a reporter did. We must defeat Islamic terrorism & have surveillance, including a watch list, to protect America
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 20, 2015Comments
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FLIPFLOPPER !
Posted by: The Jackhole at November 20, 2015 02:27 PM (3mTyP)
2
Hello.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 02:27 PM (evdj2)
3
Rube-io is the king of bullshit. Ask yourself: would you buy a used car from Rube-io? You know that you wouldn't. RUBE-IO = OBAMA.
Posted by: BJ* at November 20, 2015 02:27 PM (bS7Dj)
4
RUBE-IOBAMA
Posted by: BJ* at November 20, 2015 02:28 PM (bS7Dj)
5
Yep, especially note that the reporters is the one who suggested a registry for Muslims, not Trump.
They love to put words in Republicans' mouth and then scream "Scandal!!!"
They love to put words in Republicans' mouth and then scream "Scandal!!!"
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2015 02:28 PM (NOIQH)
6
I keep suggesting a stripper/pornstar candidate. Not sure why the idea isn't gaining traction.
Posted by: Weasel at November 20, 2015 02:28 PM (6xtq3)
7
Trump/Rubio the Combover Combo
Posted by: The Jackhole at November 20, 2015 02:28 PM (3mTyP)
8
If you want to push a more "reasonable" candidate, then I wish you all luck, but as long as it's Marco Rubio you're trying to stampede me towards, No sale.
Garbage Status: Scorned
Garbage Status: Scorned
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 02:28 PM (evdj2)
9
Top 10! Top 10!!!
Posted by: Weasel at November 20, 2015 02:28 PM (6xtq3)
10
>>Look, I'm sorry fellas, but Marco Rubio is absolutely unacceptable to me. Absolutely unacceptable.
Wow. I didn't realize Marco had fallen so far in your eyes (and other parts).
Wow. I didn't realize Marco had fallen so far in your eyes (and other parts).
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2015 02:28 PM (/tuJf)
11
Bbbut bbbbut Marco is electable, just like us. The polls prove it!!
Posted by: Presidents McCain, Romney and Dole at November 20, 2015 02:29 PM (0LHZx)
12
They're slipping if it took this long.
Now, (a) it will be believed by those who wish to believe it; and (b) there is nothing that would change their minds anyway.
And please remember - this is only a taste of what the MSM has ready for the actual nominee, whomever that poor sod ends up being.
Now, (a) it will be believed by those who wish to believe it; and (b) there is nothing that would change their minds anyway.
And please remember - this is only a taste of what the MSM has ready for the actual nominee, whomever that poor sod ends up being.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Bury the Hatchet and Other Weapons at the Outrage Outlet! at November 20, 2015 02:29 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: sir Edmund Hillary at November 20, 2015 02:29 PM (7v/r5)
14
Gee, just after he got all that Mia Love love....
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at November 20, 2015 02:29 PM (iQIUe)
15
Heard Rush break it down today.
Media proves it's alternately stupid or evil. Only question is which at any given moment.
Media proves it's alternately stupid or evil. Only question is which at any given moment.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at November 20, 2015 02:29 PM (oVJmc)
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Rubio and Jeb Bush are completely unacceptable. If one of them is the nominee, I will have to think long and hard about voting. I believe the reason Romney lost is a mediocre conservative turnout, so I will keep that in mind, as well as the result of his loss.
Still...
Still...
Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 20, 2015 02:30 PM (aW5/6)
17
Trump's statement should have been
"I'm offended you're accusing me of the kind of thing Franklin Roosevelt did."
"I'm offended you're accusing me of the kind of thing Franklin Roosevelt did."
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at November 20, 2015 02:31 PM (oVJmc)
18
Did we tweet that Trump raped his wife, and that his father was in the KKK?
Why, yes -- yes we did.
Posted by: The GOPe Creepy Crawlers
Did we tweet that Trump raped his wife, and that his father was in the KKK?
Why, yes -- yes we did.
Posted by: The GOPe Creepy Crawlers
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 20, 2015 02:32 PM (kdS6q)
19
Hey ace, don't you get sick of it?
Going on twitter and dealing with the fanboys with marching orders who are clearly full of shit trying to push their narratives and opinions and are blatantly dishonest hacks coming up with shared "talking points" crafted by people like Frank Luntz?
Or is it fun for you?
Personally, I'm kind of over it. Which is why I talk politics less and less with friends and family. It's so... tiring. Because everyone is being dishonest, and everyone knows it and yet everyone likes to pretend they're on the "inside" and theyre just duping OTHERS, and that they're not the ones being duped.
Going on twitter and dealing with the fanboys with marching orders who are clearly full of shit trying to push their narratives and opinions and are blatantly dishonest hacks coming up with shared "talking points" crafted by people like Frank Luntz?
Or is it fun for you?
Personally, I'm kind of over it. Which is why I talk politics less and less with friends and family. It's so... tiring. Because everyone is being dishonest, and everyone knows it and yet everyone likes to pretend they're on the "inside" and theyre just duping OTHERS, and that they're not the ones being duped.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 02:32 PM (AkOaV)
20
That's not what you said last night!
Posted by: Marco Rubio's Refuse at November 20, 2015 02:32 PM (DxKQL)
21
I think Trump is throwing it into cruise control here for a while.
He's gliding right towards a good showing in Iowa and a big win in New Hampshire.
Then on to the south, which he owns!
He's gliding right towards a good showing in Iowa and a big win in New Hampshire.
Then on to the south, which he owns!
Posted by: Trump Taj Mahal at November 20, 2015 02:32 PM (6nGV8)
Posted by: Last at November 20, 2015 02:33 PM (8HiDF)
23
"I'm offended you're accusing me of the kind of thing Franklin Roosevelt did."
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at November 20, 2015 02:31 PM (oVJmc)
lets not forget progressive hero woodrow wilson's internment camps either.
"I'm offended you're accusing me of the kind of thing Franklin Roosevelt did."
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at November 20, 2015 02:31 PM (oVJmc)
lets not forget progressive hero woodrow wilson's internment camps either.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 02:33 PM (AkOaV)
24
Another thought: One of Trump's strengths has been that he is the little boy pointing out that the Emperor has no clothes, that is, he says what everyone is thinking and is scared of saying.
What should scare the heck out of those pushing other candidates is that people might start thinking of doing things that later generations will regret if Islam is not brought under control. This thought gets put out there it might get the ball rolling on some other thoughts.
What should scare the heck out of those pushing other candidates is that people might start thinking of doing things that later generations will regret if Islam is not brought under control. This thought gets put out there it might get the ball rolling on some other thoughts.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Bury the Hatchet and Other Weapons at the Outrage Outlet! at November 20, 2015 02:33 PM (hLRSq)
25
Cruz!
Posted by: Grump928(c) bitter ender at November 20, 2015 02:34 PM (evdj2)
26
well a metric ton of the conservetariat that I USED o like have lost their collective shit over this
and BTW
how about adding a little PROFILING
and BTW
how about adding a little PROFILING
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 02:34 PM (zOTsN)
27
I believe the reason Romney lost is a mediocre conservative turnout,
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Nah. He lost because Obama the country has gone full socialist.
Reagan won 59% of the vote in 1984. Had 1984's electorate looked like 2012's electorate, he would have won 52% of the vote.
And every 4 years it will get worse and fucking worse.
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Nah. He lost because Obama the country has gone full socialist.
Reagan won 59% of the vote in 1984. Had 1984's electorate looked like 2012's electorate, he would have won 52% of the vote.
And every 4 years it will get worse and fucking worse.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 02:34 PM (0LHZx)
28
It was sort of an aside question asked of Trump while he was signing autographs. So it was like, 'Sure honey, I'd love to take out the trash. '
But Hillary Clinton got her angry, fist clenching, shrieking photo-op out of it.
But Hillary Clinton got her angry, fist clenching, shrieking photo-op out of it.
Posted by: se pa moron at November 20, 2015 02:34 PM (7v/r5)
29
Sorry for the early OT but this deserves to be shouted from the mountaintops.
I know you think you've seen stupid things before, but this stupid? And evil?
http://tinyurl.com/nv6q9su
P.S. We don't deserve to survive.
I know you think you've seen stupid things before, but this stupid? And evil?
http://tinyurl.com/nv6q9su
P.S. We don't deserve to survive.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 20, 2015 02:34 PM (IWLe1)
30
When I heard this news yesterday, I stayed silent. It didn't make sense to me that anyone would say something so Nazi-ish. And I was right. Smear job.
Fox News jumped on the bandwagon this morning bringing up this crap in a discussion about the refugees. ALL of the news media, conservative news media included, better start checking their sources before stating this crap as fact. The press is undermining themselves this campaign cycle with their slipshod 'research' and reporting based on hash tags and rumors.
Fox News jumped on the bandwagon this morning bringing up this crap in a discussion about the refugees. ALL of the news media, conservative news media included, better start checking their sources before stating this crap as fact. The press is undermining themselves this campaign cycle with their slipshod 'research' and reporting based on hash tags and rumors.
Posted by: K-E at November 20, 2015 02:35 PM (dfNsf)
31
Nah. He lost because Obama the country has gone full socialist.
Reagan won 59% of the vote in 1984. Had 1984's electorate looked like 2012's electorate, he would have won 52% of the vote.
And every 4 years it will get worse and fucking worse.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 02:34 PM (0LHZx)
I happen to think you're right. And if there is a "tipping point" we're past it.
Too many entrenched interests, and too many bought off voters.
Reagan won 59% of the vote in 1984. Had 1984's electorate looked like 2012's electorate, he would have won 52% of the vote.
And every 4 years it will get worse and fucking worse.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 02:34 PM (0LHZx)
I happen to think you're right. And if there is a "tipping point" we're past it.
Too many entrenched interests, and too many bought off voters.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 02:35 PM (AkOaV)
32
Charlie Manson still has a following on the Left.
Posted by: Grump928(c) bitter ender at November 20, 2015 02:35 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 20, 2015 02:35 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 02:36 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Grump928(c) bitter ender at November 20, 2015 02:36 PM (evdj2)
36
I parked next to a car with a Carson bumper sticker on it yesterday. I don't understand Carson support either.
Posted by: Carol at November 20, 2015 02:37 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 20, 2015 02:37 PM (ODxAs)
38
I really won't know what to think about this until David Frum puts down his stick of butter and belches out something.
Posted by: Grump928(c) bitter ender at November 20, 2015 02:37 PM (evdj2)
39
So, the govt having databases on people is bad now?
Posted by: ryukyu at November 20, 2015 02:38 PM (FuBZa)
40
It's really easy to come up with lots of little arguments. You know, like "Owning firearms is a constitutional right, and you want to make a database of gun owners. Why not make a database of Muslims, what's the difference?"
See how much fun it is? You start putting ideas like that out there, why who knows how far you can go with them!
Off to make a man nervous if you ask me.
See how much fun it is? You start putting ideas like that out there, why who knows how far you can go with them!
Off to make a man nervous if you ask me.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Bury the Hatchet and Other Weapons at the Outrage Outlet! at November 20, 2015 02:38 PM (hLRSq)
41
seriously
they think its thier personal mission to take Trump down. Its sort of amazing. Using the same tactics of the left
never letting the truth get in the way of their preferred narrative
pissed that their own influence isnt greater
respect ma authority!
they think its thier personal mission to take Trump down. Its sort of amazing. Using the same tactics of the left
never letting the truth get in the way of their preferred narrative
pissed that their own influence isnt greater
respect ma authority!
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 02:39 PM (zOTsN)
42
O hey, we were doing a meeting this morning that was facilitatered by this old 60ish hippie Canadian lady. She was bitching about how much she has to pay now for health insurance under the new O-care laws and saying 'but you can't go without it'
I pointed out that yes, people are going without, including the elderly now, because food or healthcare, you gamble and eat first. And also that the effects of the law made it harder on the elderly and fixed income people than anybody else, so they really screwed the pooch on that law.
Now, she's totes Democrat and bleeding-heart Liberal, so there's no chance she'd say Repeal. What she said was 'We'll fix it, and you know we will, isn't that just the best thing about living here?'
Kinda wanted to tell her, no that was the intention all along.
On another note, Zombie got mentioned on the radio this AM, host was talking about the 1977 coming ice age book column. Quinn at the War Room, out of Pittsburgh. He's kinda eh.
I pointed out that yes, people are going without, including the elderly now, because food or healthcare, you gamble and eat first. And also that the effects of the law made it harder on the elderly and fixed income people than anybody else, so they really screwed the pooch on that law.
Now, she's totes Democrat and bleeding-heart Liberal, so there's no chance she'd say Repeal. What she said was 'We'll fix it, and you know we will, isn't that just the best thing about living here?'
Kinda wanted to tell her, no that was the intention all along.
On another note, Zombie got mentioned on the radio this AM, host was talking about the 1977 coming ice age book column. Quinn at the War Room, out of Pittsburgh. He's kinda eh.
Posted by: Bigby's Iron Fist at November 20, 2015 02:39 PM (3ZtZW)
43
Why you no like Heb? He very nice man, an very tall. Or am I just short? Adios, I go shop for jewelry now.
Posted by: Columba at November 20, 2015 02:39 PM (HgMAr)
44
11,
That's funny!
That's funny!
Posted by: Carol at November 20, 2015 02:39 PM (sj3Ax)
45
Ace, I honestly don't get why immigration is the issue for you. I think how terrible Trump would be on most issues (health care, Supreme Court nominations, etc). And on most issues Rubio is a fine candidate. I'm not stampeding you, just trying to figure out your calculation.
Posted by: Crispian at November 20, 2015 02:39 PM (n9Zp5)
46
"Ought to make a man nervous" is what I meant to type.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Bury the Hatchet and Other Weapons at the Outrage Outlet! at November 20, 2015 02:40 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: se pa moron at November 20, 2015 02:40 PM (7v/r5)
48
I can not stand Trump, but if these assholes keep this shit up, they are going to convert a lot of people to his cause.
I know Trump is scared because Kasich's PAC is going to attack him.
That is a joke, for those that don't get it. A K PAC couldn't attack a kitten and not fvck it up.
I know Trump is scared because Kasich's PAC is going to attack him.
That is a joke, for those that don't get it. A K PAC couldn't attack a kitten and not fvck it up.
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2015 02:40 PM (jJRIy)
49
Look, I'm sorry fellas, but Marco Rubio is absolutely unacceptable to me. Absolutely unacceptable.
If you want to push a more "reasonable" candidate, then I wish you all luck, but as long as it's Marco Rubio you're trying to stampede me towards, No sale.
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If you want to push a more "reasonable" candidate, then I wish you all luck, but as long as it's Marco Rubio you're trying to stampede me towards, No sale.
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this
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 20, 2015 02:40 PM (E5UB0)
50
It was amazing that libs like Dave Weigel and Chris Hayes were actually reasonable about this, while some so-called conservatives on twitter were freaking out.
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 20, 2015 02:40 PM (OD2ni)
51
Mr. Trump, could you tell us what you use to get that fine shine on your jackboots?
Posted by: Your Totally Objective Members of the MSM at November 20, 2015 02:40 PM (YFFpo)
52
41 seriously
they think its thier personal mission to take Trump down. Its sort of amazing. Using the same tactics of the left
never letting the truth get in the way of their preferred narrative
pissed that their own influence isnt greater
respect ma authority!
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 02:39 PM (zOTsN)
_________
I always make it a point to say to so-called "conservative" Trump haters that their allies in the anti-Trump jihad are Vox, MSNBC, Kos and the NY Times. 9/10 times the reply back is "yeah well shut up you rube".....much like a progressive might do.
Odd, no?
they think its thier personal mission to take Trump down. Its sort of amazing. Using the same tactics of the left
never letting the truth get in the way of their preferred narrative
pissed that their own influence isnt greater
respect ma authority!
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 02:39 PM (zOTsN)
_________
I always make it a point to say to so-called "conservative" Trump haters that their allies in the anti-Trump jihad are Vox, MSNBC, Kos and the NY Times. 9/10 times the reply back is "yeah well shut up you rube".....much like a progressive might do.
Odd, no?
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 02:41 PM (0LHZx)
53
I hated Jeb until he invaded my home and raped me and made me genetically whole, but if Rubio did the same, I could see my way towards supporting him.
Posted by: Begoniez at November 20, 2015 02:41 PM (E5UB0)
54
So when do the polling booth's open Herr Schlager!!
Posted by: Drider at November 20, 2015 02:41 PM (bdzyz)
55
register guns not muslims!
Posted by: denny at November 20, 2015 02:41 PM (kCywo)
56
Mew Mew that's an eeyore stat if ever there was one.
If demographics are so ironclad then what's the point of campaigning?
If demographics are so ironclad then what's the point of campaigning?
Posted by: Ghost of kari at November 20, 2015 02:41 PM (xuouz)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2015 02:42 PM (jJRIy)
58
re: Carson. I'm sure he's a nice guy and all, just not sure he'd be good at the job. I think the voters who have buyer's remorse after o'fuckstick like the idea of voting for another 'bro.
Posted by: Weasel at November 20, 2015 02:42 PM (6xtq3)
59
@42 That War Room mention was, no doubt, due to the "Instalanche" on that subject couple days ago. zombie's a reg-ly celeb. We're fortunate we still get zombied here. I'm sure all the other big-money websites are in a bidding war.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 20, 2015 02:42 PM (xq1UY)
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36:"I don't understand Carson support either."
It's because he is a good and decent man. This makes him rare and refreshing in the political arena.
Not necessarily good for President, but refreshing.
It's because he is a good and decent man. This makes him rare and refreshing in the political arena.
Not necessarily good for President, but refreshing.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at November 20, 2015 02:42 PM (UPYPp)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 20, 2015 02:42 PM (HMt16)
62
I happen to think you're right. And if there is a "tipping point" we're past it.
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Yep. This current Millennial generation is very community-minded and socialist. Bad combo.
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Yep. This current Millennial generation is very community-minded and socialist. Bad combo.
Posted by: Bigby's Iron Fist at November 20, 2015 02:42 PM (3ZtZW)
63
"If you want to push a more "reasonable" candidate, then I wish you all luck, but as long as it's Marco Rubio you're trying to stampede me towards, No sale.
Posted by: Ace at 02:25 PM
I'm interpreting this a God opening a door...
And luckily, Sarah Palin said she was available.
Posted by: Ace at 02:25 PM
I'm interpreting this a God opening a door...
And luckily, Sarah Palin said she was available.
Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2015 02:42 PM (Zs4uk)
64
Well, to be fair, Rubio supports the stampede of illegal across our border. So he's familiar with the concept
Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2015 02:43 PM (GGCsk)
65
Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at November 20, 2015 02:43 PM (kff5f)
66
Ace is a phony conservative!!
Posted by: RB Pundit and Rick Wilson at November 20, 2015 02:43 PM (OD2ni)
67
if there is blanket amnesty and an open border
there goes national security
permanent democratic majority
and then there go all the SCOTUS noms
it is THE foundation issue on which all others rest
there goes national security
permanent democratic majority
and then there go all the SCOTUS noms
it is THE foundation issue on which all others rest
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 02:43 PM (zOTsN)
68
Ace, I honestly don't get why immigration is the issue for you. I think how terrible Trump would be on most issues (health care, Supreme Court nominations, etc).
Posted by: Crispian
Because when was the last time a Supreme Court Justice beheaded someone?*
*George Sutherland - May 1937
Ace, I honestly don't get why immigration is the issue for you. I think how terrible Trump would be on most issues (health care, Supreme Court nominations, etc).
Posted by: Crispian
Because when was the last time a Supreme Court Justice beheaded someone?*
*George Sutherland - May 1937
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 20, 2015 02:43 PM (kdS6q)
69
They eat dogs in Cuba, no?
Posted by: Columba at November 20, 2015 02:43 PM (HgMAr)
70
45 Ace, I honestly don't get why immigration is the issue for you. I think how terrible Trump would be on most issues (health care, Supreme Court nominations, etc). And on most issues Rubio is a fine candidate. I'm not stampeding you, just trying to figure out your calculation.
Posted by: Crispian at November 20, 2015 02:39 PM (n9Zp5)
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Not to speak for Ace, but...
Immigration is every thing. Once 20-30M illegals become legal - and voters - nothing else will matter since it will all be over. You think the 20M new citizens from Mexico give a fuck about your gun rights? You think they want to embrace free market solutions for health care? You think they want a lower capital gains tax? Answer those questions and you'll understand why immigration isn't THE issue, it's the ONLY issue that matters.
Posted by: Crispian at November 20, 2015 02:39 PM (n9Zp5)
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Not to speak for Ace, but...
Immigration is every thing. Once 20-30M illegals become legal - and voters - nothing else will matter since it will all be over. You think the 20M new citizens from Mexico give a fuck about your gun rights? You think they want to embrace free market solutions for health care? You think they want a lower capital gains tax? Answer those questions and you'll understand why immigration isn't THE issue, it's the ONLY issue that matters.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 02:43 PM (0LHZx)
71
I quit sharing political stuff on Facebook. It just scares people, they can't handle what's coming down these days. Things are spiraling out of control at a pretty fast clip now. It's very scary.
Posted by: ALH at November 20, 2015 02:44 PM (JrKKc)
72
You can tell just how a-skeered the GOPe is by the sheer number of professional anti-Trump trolls they have working Hot Gas (and others.) My G-d, it's infested over there.
Fk the GOPe.
Fk the GOPe.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at November 20, 2015 02:44 PM (HMt16)
73
>>I always make it a point to say to so-called "conservative" Trump haters that their allies in the anti-Trump jihad are Vox, MSNBC, Kos and the NY Times. 9/10 times the reply back is "yeah well shut up you rube".....much like a progressive might do.
News Flash. The left hates all people on the right side of the spectrum. Trump just happens to be the biggest target right now but rest assured if he stumbles they will be just as vicious with every other candidate.
News Flash. The left hates all people on the right side of the spectrum. Trump just happens to be the biggest target right now but rest assured if he stumbles they will be just as vicious with every other candidate.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2015 02:44 PM (/tuJf)
74
If I had a son, he would look a lot like this Jeb fellow.
Posted by: George H. W. Bush at November 20, 2015 02:44 PM (E5UB0)
75
All those background checks you have to go through to buy a gun, that's a database is it not? Is there a record of anyone who has filed for a background check?
Is there a database of driver's licenses? Criminal records?
And NSA says they have so much data it's a 'miracle' if anyone finds anything buried in all that data.
Is there a database of driver's licenses? Criminal records?
And NSA says they have so much data it's a 'miracle' if anyone finds anything buried in all that data.
Posted by: THDeering at November 20, 2015 02:44 PM (IOuZT)
76
Crispian-
Marco ran as completely against any immigration & amnesty as senate candidate & then goes back on campaign promises & joins Gang of 8 Bill.
That did it for me.
Marco ran as completely against any immigration & amnesty as senate candidate & then goes back on campaign promises & joins Gang of 8 Bill.
That did it for me.
Posted by: Carol at November 20, 2015 02:44 PM (sj3Ax)
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A K PAC couldn't attack a kitten and not fvck it up.
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I seen that guy eat a banana without peeling it tho
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I seen that guy eat a banana without peeling it tho
Posted by: Bigby's Iron Fist at November 20, 2015 02:45 PM (3ZtZW)
78
Mr. Trump, could you tell us what you use to get that fine shine on your jackboots?
Posted by: Your Totally Objective Members of the MSM at November 20, 2015 02:40 PM (YFFpo)
"I use Ass Polish. I got some over there." *points*
*reporter turns around*
"Where? I don't see...Ow!"
*boot to the rear*
Posted by: Your Totally Objective Members of the MSM at November 20, 2015 02:40 PM (YFFpo)
"I use Ass Polish. I got some over there." *points*
*reporter turns around*
"Where? I don't see...Ow!"
*boot to the rear*
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Bury the Hatchet and Other Weapons at the Outrage Outlet! at November 20, 2015 02:45 PM (hLRSq)
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Ace, I honestly don't get why immigration is the issue for you. I think
how terrible Trump would be on most issues (health care, Supreme Court
nominations, etc). And on most issues Rubio is a fine candidate. I'm not
stampeding you, just trying to figure out your calculation.
Immigration is everything: strengthens security of the U.S., cuts down on government and state spending, reduces unemployment, ends the depression of wages, saves school districts millions of dollars, reduces crime.
Immigration touches on so many key aspects of the American way of life and our future.
Trump is a very successful businessman, and guess what you learn when you are a successful businessman? How to pick good managers and how to cut waste.
If you think Trump would 100% be making all the decisions in government based on his knowledge today without any support from a cabinet or other advisors, then you are nuts. He will pick great people, because he is no dummy.
Rubio has really done nothing but be a Senator. What other life achievements does he have?
how terrible Trump would be on most issues (health care, Supreme Court
nominations, etc). And on most issues Rubio is a fine candidate. I'm not
stampeding you, just trying to figure out your calculation.
Immigration is everything: strengthens security of the U.S., cuts down on government and state spending, reduces unemployment, ends the depression of wages, saves school districts millions of dollars, reduces crime.
Immigration touches on so many key aspects of the American way of life and our future.
Trump is a very successful businessman, and guess what you learn when you are a successful businessman? How to pick good managers and how to cut waste.
If you think Trump would 100% be making all the decisions in government based on his knowledge today without any support from a cabinet or other advisors, then you are nuts. He will pick great people, because he is no dummy.
Rubio has really done nothing but be a Senator. What other life achievements does he have?
Posted by: K-E at November 20, 2015 02:46 PM (dfNsf)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 20, 2015 02:46 PM (kdS6q)
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56 Mew Mew that's an eeyore stat if ever there was one.
If demographics are so ironclad then what's the point of campaigning?
Posted by: Ghost of kari at November 20, 2015 02:41 PM (xuouz)
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Good question. I dunno.
I'm just telling you how it is, demographically speaking. We can talk all we want about nominating conservatives or whatever. But the fact is a quickly growing % of the country is die hard socialist and no amount of campaigning is going to chance that, at least not in the short term.
If demographics are so ironclad then what's the point of campaigning?
Posted by: Ghost of kari at November 20, 2015 02:41 PM (xuouz)
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Good question. I dunno.
I'm just telling you how it is, demographically speaking. We can talk all we want about nominating conservatives or whatever. But the fact is a quickly growing % of the country is die hard socialist and no amount of campaigning is going to chance that, at least not in the short term.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 02:46 PM (0LHZx)
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I'd like to hear more about this new Rube Marcio guy.
Posted by: Boone at November 20, 2015 02:46 PM (aDkn+)
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I'm finding that Rubio's Gang of Eight shenanigans is a real deal-breaker for a lot of Republicans.
I thought the "I'm sitting home" thing had vanished when this field of candidates first appeared. Now it seems to have come back specific to Rubio.
I have not heard that about any other candidate. Heck, I've heard people say "I'd squeeze my cheeks together and vote for Kasich".
But Rubio? I'd rather slam my dick in a car door...
I thought the "I'm sitting home" thing had vanished when this field of candidates first appeared. Now it seems to have come back specific to Rubio.
I have not heard that about any other candidate. Heck, I've heard people say "I'd squeeze my cheeks together and vote for Kasich".
But Rubio? I'd rather slam my dick in a car door...
Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2015 02:46 PM (GGCsk)
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I'm in the minority around here, as I have said that Marco is acceptable to me - though he is not my preferred choice. I do think Marco needs some seasoning. But what he really may need is some defeats. Absorb some losses and figure out what those losses occurred.
Posted by: Brian Williams at November 20, 2015 02:46 PM (gmeXX)
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"I believe the reason Romney lost is a mediocre conservative turnout, so I
will keep that in mind, as well as the result of his loss."
If Romney had been able to get traction with one specific bloc, working class whites in the upper Midwest, he'd be President today.
However, there is someone in the race this time around who working class whites like. They like him a whole lot, in fact. And it's not Marco Woobie-o.
will keep that in mind, as well as the result of his loss."
If Romney had been able to get traction with one specific bloc, working class whites in the upper Midwest, he'd be President today.
However, there is someone in the race this time around who working class whites like. They like him a whole lot, in fact. And it's not Marco Woobie-o.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 20, 2015 02:46 PM (noWW6)
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@42 That War Room mention was, no doubt, due to the "Instalanche" on that subject couple days ago.
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O no doubt. I'm very certain Quinn hangs out here, there, many sites. Quinn - change that Hilary bumper music, yo
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O no doubt. I'm very certain Quinn hangs out here, there, many sites. Quinn - change that Hilary bumper music, yo
Posted by: Bigby's Iron Fist at November 20, 2015 02:47 PM (3ZtZW)
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Rubio bugs the shit out of me. Smug little fucker.
Posted by: Weasel at November 20, 2015 02:47 PM (6xtq3)
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We are all utterly fed up with having to 'choose our words carefully' as if we are reformed criminals.
Most of us are sensible enough not to offend decent people, but we also know there are others who need plain speaking, such as overweight narcissists.
Most of us are sensible enough not to offend decent people, but we also know there are others who need plain speaking, such as overweight narcissists.
Posted by: bruce at November 20, 2015 02:47 PM (E+ah4)
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Gloria Allred is calling the media and getting on her red dress as we speak.
Anyone remember what happened to the suits against Cain?
Anyone remember what happened to the suits against Cain?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 20, 2015 02:47 PM (Xo1Rt)
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I want Cruz but I don thtink Im gonna get him
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 02:47 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at November 20, 2015 02:47 PM (kff5f)
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By the way, I think Cruz is taking some of the life out of Rubio's candidacy. I never thought that would happen.
Rubio's clowns must know it too. They've been going after Cruz hard lately.
Rubio's clowns must know it too. They've been going after Cruz hard lately.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2015 02:48 PM (GGCsk)
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register guns not muslims
Posted by: denny at November 20, 2015 02:48 PM (kCywo)
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Weasel,
Affirmative Action TFG is worse president in U. S. History.
We shouldn't vote base on race, sex, etc.
Affirmative Action TFG is worse president in U. S. History.
We shouldn't vote base on race, sex, etc.
Posted by: Carol at November 20, 2015 02:48 PM (sj3Ax)
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If demographics are so ironclad then what's the point of campaigning?
Posted by: Ghost of kari at November 20, 2015 02:41 PM (xuouz)
People like a good show. Like American Idol and whatnot.
But yeah, I think there's an 80-90% chance D's win every presidential election going forward. Those numbers go up quickly if amnesty happens.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at November 20, 2015 02:41 PM (xuouz)
People like a good show. Like American Idol and whatnot.
But yeah, I think there's an 80-90% chance D's win every presidential election going forward. Those numbers go up quickly if amnesty happens.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 02:49 PM (AkOaV)
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Her death in the Saint Denis siege was instant. Jean-Michel Fauvergue, 56, the French anti terror commander who led the raid described how he saw her head fly through the window. Her spine landed on a police car.
'That's when we saw a human body, a woman's head, fly through the window and land on the pavement, on the other side of the street,' Fauvergue said.
'That's when we saw a human body, a woman's head, fly through the window and land on the pavement, on the other side of the street,' Fauvergue said.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at November 20, 2015 02:49 PM (e8kgV)
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In her current column, Peggy Noonan notes that Reagan succeeded because he exuded confidence.
You know who else does -- Donald Trump. And he's proven that he can get things done. And he has the trophy wives to show for it.
A year ago I would't have guessed that I'd embrace the idea of Trump as President. Now I do.
You know who else does -- Donald Trump. And he's proven that he can get things done. And he has the trophy wives to show for it.
A year ago I would't have guessed that I'd embrace the idea of Trump as President. Now I do.
Posted by: Ignoramus at November 20, 2015 02:49 PM (r1fLd)
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i fixed the duplicate tweet to the right one.
and i'm mentioning that because of those who say I am whoring with twitter.
sorry, sometimes i see this nonsense brewing on the RIGHT and since i'm not on their stupid journolist listservs this is my only chance to stop their herd stampeding.
and i'm mentioning that because of those who say I am whoring with twitter.
sorry, sometimes i see this nonsense brewing on the RIGHT and since i'm not on their stupid journolist listservs this is my only chance to stop their herd stampeding.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 02:49 PM (dciA+)
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If I had a son, he would look a lot like this Jeb fellow.
Posted by: George H. W. Bush at November 20, 2015 02:44 PM (E5UB0)
I shot coffee out my schnozz.
Posted by: George H. W. Bush at November 20, 2015 02:44 PM (E5UB0)
I shot coffee out my schnozz.
Posted by: Grump928(c) bitter ender at November 20, 2015 02:50 PM (evdj2)
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Rubios biggest doners are 2 guys who are open borders/amnesty types
he will say anything to get elected
but this is who he is beholden to
he will say anything to get elected
but this is who he is beholden to
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 02:50 PM (zOTsN)
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Once 20-30M illegals become legal - and voters - nothing else will matter since it will all be over.
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Then what is wrong with the status quo? Serious question. I just get the sense that any deal is going to involve something worse. So I'd prefer the status quo to that.
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Then what is wrong with the status quo? Serious question. I just get the sense that any deal is going to involve something worse. So I'd prefer the status quo to that.
Posted by: Brian Williams at November 20, 2015 02:50 PM (gmeXX)
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I think most of all, the Democrats lapdog, the media, is enjoying the internecine warfare. It's saving them a lot of work.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2015 02:50 PM (GGCsk)
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happen to think you're right. And if there is a "tipping point" we're past it.
Too many entrenched interests, and too many bought off voters.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Yes. Bizarre not even "entrenched interests" seem to play into this much.
There was some grumbling that Obama lied to them about ACA, but they elected him again anyway.
Too many entrenched interests, and too many bought off voters.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Yes. Bizarre not even "entrenched interests" seem to play into this much.
There was some grumbling that Obama lied to them about ACA, but they elected him again anyway.
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 20, 2015 02:50 PM (E5UB0)
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If Romney had been able to get traction with one specific bloc, working class whites in the upper Midwest, he'd be President today.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 20, 2015 02:46 PM (noWW6)
Yes and no.
Whites in general matter less and less every election when you have the 30-35% of the country who are not white and vote in one big bloc for one party no matter what.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 20, 2015 02:46 PM (noWW6)
Yes and no.
Whites in general matter less and less every election when you have the 30-35% of the country who are not white and vote in one big bloc for one party no matter what.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 02:50 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 20, 2015 02:51 PM (ODxAs)
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81:"But the fact is a quickly growing % of the country is die hard socialist and no amount of campaigning is going to chance that, at least not in the short term."
Pain is the only teacher that some will learn from.
Once such types comprise 51 percent of the population, democratic forms of government fail.
I believe the more relevant question will be: How long will the Burning last?
Pain is the only teacher that some will learn from.
Once such types comprise 51 percent of the population, democratic forms of government fail.
I believe the more relevant question will be: How long will the Burning last?
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at November 20, 2015 02:51 PM (UPYPp)
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94 Hi Carol - I'm not suggesting that we should, but I do think it happens.
Posted by: Weasel at November 20, 2015 02:51 PM (6xtq3)
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If I had a son, he would look like Marco Rubio.
Posted by: Pancho Villa at November 20, 2015 02:51 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2015 02:51 PM (DUoqb)
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But yeah, I think there's an 80-90% chance D's win every presidential election going forward. Those numbers go up quickly if amnesty happens.
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I just don't get that way of thinking. Things do not continue on the same path forever. Could Dems win the next 2, 3, 4, 5 presidential elections? Sure I guess, though I doubt they'll win this one. But all going forward. No way. Life is simply not that linear.
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I just don't get that way of thinking. Things do not continue on the same path forever. Could Dems win the next 2, 3, 4, 5 presidential elections? Sure I guess, though I doubt they'll win this one. But all going forward. No way. Life is simply not that linear.
Posted by: Brian Williams at November 20, 2015 02:52 PM (gmeXX)
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There was some grumbling that Obama lied to them about ACA, but they elected him again anyway.
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 20, 2015 02:50 PM (E5UB0)
Well I just mean that there are wayy too many people out there who financially and otherwise benefit from government being as big and bloated as possible... and they're willing to fight tooth and nail against even the suggestion of NOT growing government year over year, much less modest reforms or cuts.
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 20, 2015 02:50 PM (E5UB0)
Well I just mean that there are wayy too many people out there who financially and otherwise benefit from government being as big and bloated as possible... and they're willing to fight tooth and nail against even the suggestion of NOT growing government year over year, much less modest reforms or cuts.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 02:52 PM (AkOaV)
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I believe the more relevant question will be: How long will the Burning last?
Not enough Preparation H in the history of the universe.
Not enough Preparation H in the history of the universe.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at November 20, 2015 02:52 PM (kff5f)
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Off sock from 5 days ago.
Posted by: SH at November 20, 2015 02:52 PM (gmeXX)
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Whites in general matter less and less every election when you have the 30-35% of the country who are not white and vote in one big bloc for one party no matter what.
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Of course, only 30-35% of the country votes at all...
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Of course, only 30-35% of the country votes at all...
Posted by: Bigby's Iron Fist at November 20, 2015 02:52 PM (3ZtZW)
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You know who else does -- Donald Trump. And he's proven that he can get things done. And he has the trophy wives to show for it.
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If it's Hillary vs Trump, I'm voting for Melania's orbs.
You know who else does -- Donald Trump. And he's proven that he can get things done. And he has the trophy wives to show for it.
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If it's Hillary vs Trump, I'm voting for Melania's orbs.
Posted by: wth at November 20, 2015 02:53 PM (HgMAr)
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Black tape was found over the pictures of black professors outside a Harvard Law School lecture hall Thursday, one day after students on the campus marched to express solidarity with black students at colleges across the country.
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Totally not going to be a hoax
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Totally not going to be a hoax
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at November 20, 2015 02:53 PM (fWAjv)
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Oh, what a non-story.
The government already has a database.
Its just pointed at all of us, not the new voters we keep inviting from overseas and down south.
The government already has a database.
Its just pointed at all of us, not the new voters we keep inviting from overseas and down south.
Posted by: Gaff at November 20, 2015 02:53 PM (jPS2y)
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But if we don't give the terrorists amnesty, the terrorists have won!!!!11!!!
(Remember: the surge of illegal "immigrants" of the last few years is due to the Obama Regime telling them if they claim they are refugees from drug violence in their home country, they get in free.)
(Remember: the surge of illegal "immigrants" of the last few years is due to the Obama Regime telling them if they claim they are refugees from drug violence in their home country, they get in free.)
Posted by: RoyalOil at November 20, 2015 02:53 PM (fQ/0p)
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What are the chances the GOP leadership can 'greenmail' Trump at the convention, make some kind of deal to make him go away, so they can nominate Bush?
What are the chances the GOP will refuse to support Trump if nominated, or refuse to work with him as president if elected?
I don't know, just kinda speculating about how far down the rabbit hole we're going.
For that matter, what are the chances the democrat party can draft a younger candidate at the convention? and if so, who would it be, and what odds of success would they have now that Obama has destroyed the credibility of the democrat party and the news media.
What are the chances the GOP will refuse to support Trump if nominated, or refuse to work with him as president if elected?
I don't know, just kinda speculating about how far down the rabbit hole we're going.
For that matter, what are the chances the democrat party can draft a younger candidate at the convention? and if so, who would it be, and what odds of success would they have now that Obama has destroyed the credibility of the democrat party and the news media.
Posted by: THDeering at November 20, 2015 02:53 PM (IOuZT)
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BTW - Kaisch says that he is going to take down Trump.
Talk's cheap. I'll believe it when I see it, sweetie.
Talk's cheap. I'll believe it when I see it, sweetie.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Bury the Hatchet and Other Weapons at the Outrage Outlet! at November 20, 2015 02:54 PM (hLRSq)
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Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump
Posted by: Ghost of kari at November 20, 2015 02:54 PM (xuouz)
Posted by: Grump928(c) bitter ender at November 20, 2015 02:54 PM (evdj2)
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I just don't get that way of thinking. Things do not continue on the same path forever. Could Dems win the next 2, 3, 4, 5 presidential elections? Sure I guess, though I doubt they'll win this one. But all going forward. No way. Life is simply not that linear.
Posted by: Brian Williams at November 20, 2015 02:52 PM (gmeXX)
Just look at the demographic numbers of presidential elections from, say, 1950 until today.
You'll find that white males vote, essentially, for the most conservative candidate every time.
That just matters less and less every election.
Could that change? Maybe. But progressives have been "fundamentally transforming" the US for 100 years. Getting more and more class-warfare "groups" going. Way more grievances. Way more government reliance. Then to speed up the process, they import millions of 3rd world socialists in the hopes that they continue to vote they way they did back home.
To just expect all of that hard work to magically undo itself in our favor seems... well, I don't see the path to that happening.
Posted by: Brian Williams at November 20, 2015 02:52 PM (gmeXX)
Just look at the demographic numbers of presidential elections from, say, 1950 until today.
You'll find that white males vote, essentially, for the most conservative candidate every time.
That just matters less and less every election.
Could that change? Maybe. But progressives have been "fundamentally transforming" the US for 100 years. Getting more and more class-warfare "groups" going. Way more grievances. Way more government reliance. Then to speed up the process, they import millions of 3rd world socialists in the hopes that they continue to vote they way they did back home.
To just expect all of that hard work to magically undo itself in our favor seems... well, I don't see the path to that happening.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 02:54 PM (AkOaV)
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If you want to push a more "reasonable" candidate, then I wish you all luck, but as long as it's Marco Rubio you're trying to stampede me towards, No sale.
Yeah... pretty much. Rubio ranks slightly higher than Bush on the pond scum scale, but he's still unacceptable.
Black tape was found over the pictures of black professors outside a Harvard Law School lecture hall Thursday, one day after students on the campus marched to express solidarity with black students at colleges across the country.
"We had all the press a few days ago then those stupid French people got shot and everyone forgot! Quick we need an outrage, stat! Someone get us a racist incident! And call CNN!"
Yeah... pretty much. Rubio ranks slightly higher than Bush on the pond scum scale, but he's still unacceptable.
Black tape was found over the pictures of black professors outside a Harvard Law School lecture hall Thursday, one day after students on the campus marched to express solidarity with black students at colleges across the country.
"We had all the press a few days ago then those stupid French people got shot and everyone forgot! Quick we need an outrage, stat! Someone get us a racist incident! And call CNN!"
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2015 02:54 PM (39g3+)
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Posted by: Ignoramus at November 20, 2015 02:49 PM (r1fLd)
You know who else exudes confidence? Obama.
While useful, it isn't everything.
You know who else exudes confidence? Obama.
While useful, it isn't everything.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Bury the Hatchet and Other Weapons at the Outrage Outlet! at November 20, 2015 02:55 PM (hLRSq)
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If Romney had been able to get traction with one specific bloc, working class whites in the upper Midwest, he'd be President today.
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He did get traction with them. Look at this exit poll from Wisconsin:
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/WI/president/
Romney won whites overall, he won white men significantly. But Obama won near unanimous black and "other" vote.
When your opponent getting 17-18% of the 20% minority vote, it's pretty damn hard to win. He would have had to win whites 55-56%, which is damn near impossible.
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He did get traction with them. Look at this exit poll from Wisconsin:
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/WI/president/
Romney won whites overall, he won white men significantly. But Obama won near unanimous black and "other" vote.
When your opponent getting 17-18% of the 20% minority vote, it's pretty damn hard to win. He would have had to win whites 55-56%, which is damn near impossible.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 02:55 PM (0LHZx)
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Marco Rubio is by far the best the Republicans have. Or Heb.
Marco Rubio is by far the best the Republicans have. Or Heb.
Posted by: Luis Gutierrez at November 20, 2015 02:55 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 20, 2015 02:56 PM (ODxAs)
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110: "But all going forward. No way. Life is simply not that linear."
Not forever. But long enough to destroy what we have.
Get prepared.
Not forever. But long enough to destroy what we have.
Get prepared.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at November 20, 2015 02:56 PM (UPYPp)
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Posted by: Mikey NTH - Bury the Hatchet and Other Weapons at the Outrage Outlet! at November 20, 2015 02:55 PM (hLRSq)
Actually, if the argument is "The one who exudes more confidence wins" then the SCOAMT is a perfect example.
Actually, if the argument is "The one who exudes more confidence wins" then the SCOAMT is a perfect example.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at November 20, 2015 02:56 PM (kff5f)
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I'm voting for Trump if he wins the nom. Borders and culture.
Posted by: SFGoth at November 20, 2015 02:56 PM (KAi1n)
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until a candidate actually comes out against the min wage and proposes abolishing it so I might work in my own country freely, I will sit this one out. Come on, establishment, hear me roar!
Posted by: realignment dreamer at November 20, 2015 02:56 PM (TqbUH)
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It's amazing how this nomination campaign started with such a large bunch of very well-qualified candidates from various backgrounds and has morphed into a few people at the top sucking up all the air. I'm not sitting home when the election rolls around no matter who is at the top. Trump, Carson, Bush, and Paul aren't on my short-list, but if they get there, they get my vote because the choices on the Dem side are completely unacceptable to me.
I'm glad Bush's money caused Romney to reconsider getting in. I'm glad that Trump has probably fatally squashed Bush's campaign. If someone that I don't prefer gets the nomination, I'm still dragging my rump to the polls. It wouldn't be the first time that I voted for someone who wasn't my first, second, or even third choice. Watching us lose in 2012 because a lot of movement conservatives couldn't bring themselves to vote for Romney was painful. That presidential election was the last realistic chance to abort Obamacare.
This next presidential election is no less important. In 8 years of Obama we practically have an imperial president writing up executive order decrees to change this country beyond belief. Another 4 years of it, and we'll be ratcheted way past the point of recovery.
Politicians always disappoint you. Always. In some way large or small. Always. Who can you more live with in charge for the next 4 years? A Republican that will often drive you nuts or a Democrat that will more often drive you nuts, smear you as a racist/sexist/whatever-ist, and leave you poorer?
I'm glad Bush's money caused Romney to reconsider getting in. I'm glad that Trump has probably fatally squashed Bush's campaign. If someone that I don't prefer gets the nomination, I'm still dragging my rump to the polls. It wouldn't be the first time that I voted for someone who wasn't my first, second, or even third choice. Watching us lose in 2012 because a lot of movement conservatives couldn't bring themselves to vote for Romney was painful. That presidential election was the last realistic chance to abort Obamacare.
This next presidential election is no less important. In 8 years of Obama we practically have an imperial president writing up executive order decrees to change this country beyond belief. Another 4 years of it, and we'll be ratcheted way past the point of recovery.
Politicians always disappoint you. Always. In some way large or small. Always. Who can you more live with in charge for the next 4 years? A Republican that will often drive you nuts or a Democrat that will more often drive you nuts, smear you as a racist/sexist/whatever-ist, and leave you poorer?
Posted by: Jill at November 20, 2015 02:56 PM (yLgbY)
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265th look at Sarah Palin
.....on a trampoline?
.....on a trampoline?
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 20, 2015 02:57 PM (2IvUu)
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Marco Rubio torched any chance he had getting my vote when he went all in on the Gang of 8 bullshit. I was hard-core pro-Rubio here in FL in 2010 and he swore up and down that amnesty was unacceptable and he wants the current laws enforced, etc. Back stabbing your base is not the way to win friends and influence people. So he can fcuk right off. I don't care how nice he looks or smooth he sounds. He does not get my vote. Neither do Jeb! or Kasich. Everyone else I might compromise on.
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 20, 2015 02:57 PM (KkVB6)
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Kasich took himself out.
Posted by: Carol at November 20, 2015 02:57 PM (sj3Ax)
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I believe the more relevant question will be: How long will the Burning last?
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You know, I'm thinking about that, like how to teach my son to deal.
And it was stuff like, point out how there are cameras everywhere, how anything you post online will follow you, etc. Keep your head down, don't trust anybody except a fireman, your teachers will indoctrinate you, common core teaches only how to count change and funnels you towards a pre-selected "job", etc
Then I realized it was all like the Moscow Rules from the Cold War era mixed with Dissident stuff.
We're *already there* folks.
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You know, I'm thinking about that, like how to teach my son to deal.
And it was stuff like, point out how there are cameras everywhere, how anything you post online will follow you, etc. Keep your head down, don't trust anybody except a fireman, your teachers will indoctrinate you, common core teaches only how to count change and funnels you towards a pre-selected "job", etc
Then I realized it was all like the Moscow Rules from the Cold War era mixed with Dissident stuff.
We're *already there* folks.
Posted by: Bigby's Iron Fist at November 20, 2015 02:57 PM (3ZtZW)
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For the GOP, raising their percentage of the white vote by 5%, and getting a decent turnout, and they are landslide winners. That they don't even try to do this shows the deep sickness at the top of the party.
Posted by: Grump928(c) bitter ender at November 20, 2015 02:57 PM (evdj2)
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You know who else exudes confidence? Obama.
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So that's what is attracting the flies?
You know who else exudes confidence? Obama.
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So that's what is attracting the flies?
Posted by: wth at November 20, 2015 02:57 PM (HgMAr)
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"...and i'm mentioning that because of those who say I am whoring with twitter. "
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 02:49 PM (dciA+)
Hey we're proud when you're out communicating, commiserating and otherwise hobnobbing with the other Wizards of the Internet. Only when you do, you should put a quick thread and link up so everyone can follow.
And don't worry. We'll be your JournOlist.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 02:49 PM (dciA+)
Hey we're proud when you're out communicating, commiserating and otherwise hobnobbing with the other Wizards of the Internet. Only when you do, you should put a quick thread and link up so everyone can follow.
And don't worry. We'll be your JournOlist.
Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2015 02:57 PM (Zs4uk)
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re: side-bar the lost pagan temple in Rome.
When a Moron wins the lottery, shall we have the party there?
When a Moron wins the lottery, shall we have the party there?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2015 02:57 PM (qY51H)
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90
I want Cruz but I don thtink Im gonna get him
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 02:47 PM (zOTsN)
I also like him. We need to get his arrogance gone and have someone redo his punch able face. Grow a beard or something.
I want Cruz but I don thtink Im gonna get him
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 02:47 PM (zOTsN)
I also like him. We need to get his arrogance gone and have someone redo his punch able face. Grow a beard or something.
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2015 02:58 PM (jJRIy)
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Some of the stalwarts at FOX are guilty of this tactic, but in this case at least the online FOX clarified that Trump did NOT say what NYTimes claimed.
Red Eye goofed on Trump saying the "refugees" wouldn't like Montana cuz it was too cold, so they should stay in Syria. But I think he does that stuff as entertainment. He's always said build them a camp in a safe zone over there. Which just happens to agree with the UN standard, and John Bolton. But they goof on Trump for wanting to give them a safe place near where they came from.
Red Eye goofed on Trump saying the "refugees" wouldn't like Montana cuz it was too cold, so they should stay in Syria. But I think he does that stuff as entertainment. He's always said build them a camp in a safe zone over there. Which just happens to agree with the UN standard, and John Bolton. But they goof on Trump for wanting to give them a safe place near where they came from.
Posted by: Illiniwek at November 20, 2015 02:58 PM (Nc0+l)
Posted by: Weasel at November 20, 2015 02:58 PM (6xtq3)
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So the left goes nuts over a database of Syrian refugees but demand a database of us citizens who own legal firearms
Okay then
Okay then
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 20, 2015 02:59 PM (2IvUu)
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I don't understand Carson support either.
He's a black, honorable, Christian, and intelligent. If your criteria is the character of the man, not leadership ability or experience, Carson is a great choice. Or more simply:
Bill Frist + Colin Powell = magic!
He's a black, honorable, Christian, and intelligent. If your criteria is the character of the man, not leadership ability or experience, Carson is a great choice. Or more simply:
Bill Frist + Colin Powell = magic!
Posted by: wooga at November 20, 2015 02:59 PM (E5hoS)
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To just expect all of that hard work to magically undo itself in our favor seems... well, I don't see the path to that happening.
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What explains Texas then? It has been getting redder as it diversifies in terms of demographics.
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What explains Texas then? It has been getting redder as it diversifies in terms of demographics.
Posted by: SH at November 20, 2015 02:59 PM (gmeXX)
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every month 100,000 minority kids turn 18 thats voting age and 20,000 conservative die off every month. do the math morons.
Posted by: denny at November 20, 2015 02:59 PM (kCywo)
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Webb is out, isn't he?
Posted by: Carol at November 20, 2015 02:59 PM (sj3Ax)
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Politicians always disappoint you. Always. In some way large or small. Always. Who can you more live with in charge for the next 4 years? A Republican that will often drive you nuts or a Democrat that will more often drive you nuts, smear you as a racist/sexist/whatever-ist, and leave you poorer?
Posted by: Jill at November 20, 2015 02:56 PM (yLgbY)
Well it comes down to :
do you want to vote for the guy who hates you, will not represent you at all, and you'll be forced to half-heartedly defend when he does dumb shit?
Or the guy/gal who hates you, will not represent you at all, and you can feel free to not defend when he/she does dumb shit?
So for me -- yeah, Hillary! over Jeb! 10 times out of 10.
Posted by: Jill at November 20, 2015 02:56 PM (yLgbY)
Well it comes down to :
do you want to vote for the guy who hates you, will not represent you at all, and you'll be forced to half-heartedly defend when he does dumb shit?
Or the guy/gal who hates you, will not represent you at all, and you can feel free to not defend when he/she does dumb shit?
So for me -- yeah, Hillary! over Jeb! 10 times out of 10.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 02:59 PM (AkOaV)
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Back under the stairs, Dunderkind.
Posted by: Grump928(c) bitter ender at November 20, 2015 02:59 PM (evdj2)
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Trump's spokeswoman was asked about it this morning and this is what she said:
@moody 4h ago Trump campaign's @KatrinaPierson asked specifically about a Muslim registry on Fox Business: "Trump is not taking anything off the table."
So what does he actually believe?
@moody 4h ago Trump campaign's @KatrinaPierson asked specifically about a Muslim registry on Fox Business: "Trump is not taking anything off the table."
So what does he actually believe?
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:00 PM (YjDyJ)
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You can't spell I Luv Open Borders without Rubio.
As to why healthcare has fallen down the radar, it's because it has become apparent that OCare is a flop. It's failing. Some kind of repeal/replacement, hopefully involving free markets, is coming in 2017 after TFG is gone.
As to why healthcare has fallen down the radar, it's because it has become apparent that OCare is a flop. It's failing. Some kind of repeal/replacement, hopefully involving free markets, is coming in 2017 after TFG is gone.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 20, 2015 03:00 PM (gyKtp)
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Actually, if the argument is "The one who exudes more confidence wins" then the SCOAMT is a perfect example.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at November 20, 2015 02:56 PM (kff5f)
Monty Python's Black Knight literally bled confidence, you know.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at November 20, 2015 02:56 PM (kff5f)
Monty Python's Black Knight literally bled confidence, you know.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Bury the Hatchet and Other Weapons at the Outrage Outlet! at November 20, 2015 03:00 PM (hLRSq)
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Yes, Webb's out - I just like making fun of his bulbous head.
Posted by: Weasel at November 20, 2015 03:00 PM (6xtq3)
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148 every month 100,000 minority kids turn 18 thats voting age and 20,000 conservative die off every month. do the math morons.
Posted by: denny at November 20, 2015 02:59 PM (kCywo)
Heh, cite your sources.
Also, the "conservatives are all old white people!" stuff is... not true.
People tend to get more conservative as they age. Look at the baby boomers, for godssake.
And I'm a millennial, so I'll be around for a while and won't be dying off anytime soon, inshallah.
Posted by: denny at November 20, 2015 02:59 PM (kCywo)
Heh, cite your sources.
Also, the "conservatives are all old white people!" stuff is... not true.
People tend to get more conservative as they age. Look at the baby boomers, for godssake.
And I'm a millennial, so I'll be around for a while and won't be dying off anytime soon, inshallah.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:00 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at November 20, 2015 03:00 PM (UPYPp)
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Of course, only 30-35% of the country votes at all...
Posted by: Bigby's Iron Fist at November 20, 2015 02:52 PM (3ZtZW)
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Simple math. The Dem gets 90% of 30-35% of the population. That means a Republican has to get 65% of the white population.
And how many times has any prezzy won 65% of the white vote? Never.
Posted by: Bigby's Iron Fist at November 20, 2015 02:52 PM (3ZtZW)
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Simple math. The Dem gets 90% of 30-35% of the population. That means a Republican has to get 65% of the white population.
And how many times has any prezzy won 65% of the white vote? Never.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:01 PM (0LHZx)
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265th look at Sarah Palin
.....on a trampoline?
Posted by: Navycopjoe
There's a man who knows how to get to the heart of the matter.
.....on a trampoline?
Posted by: Navycopjoe
There's a man who knows how to get to the heart of the matter.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 20, 2015 03:01 PM (YEelc)
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I am not a Trump supporter but I always end up defending him from idiotic attacks from the right.
Posted by: Circe O'Valle at November 20, 2015 03:01 PM (rp8dK)
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This makes me more inclined to vote for Trump. I just want to see the exploding heads. It'd be more than I've gotten out of any other presidential vote I've cast in my life.
Posted by: shillelagh at November 20, 2015 03:01 PM (L3vVL)
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Pursed lips are a sign of supreme confidence.
Pursed lips are a sign of supreme confidence.
Posted by: John Kasich - have you heard of my accomplishments? at November 20, 2015 03:01 PM (HgMAr)
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This type of lying is unacceptable no matter what candidate's supporters' are doing it.
Posted by: redbanzai at November 20, 2015 03:01 PM (OrI3J)
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I am not a Trump supporter but I always end up defending him from idiotic attacks from the right.
Yep.
Yep.
Posted by: Grump928(c) bitter ender at November 20, 2015 03:01 PM (evdj2)
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the press is doing this to get hispanics to vote for Hillary
and conservatives are playing along
even if Trump is not the nominee this is the gambit
you think the conservative commentariat who are pushing this to get rid of Trump would realize this and not play
but no
they know better
and conservatives are playing along
even if Trump is not the nominee this is the gambit
you think the conservative commentariat who are pushing this to get rid of Trump would realize this and not play
but no
they know better
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:01 PM (zOTsN)
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Monty Python's Black Knight literally bled confidence, you know.
"Tis a flesh wound! Come back here coward! I'll bite your knee-caps off!"
"Tis a flesh wound! Come back here coward! I'll bite your knee-caps off!"
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2015 03:01 PM (qY51H)
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So, is Mali done? Have they killed all the terrorists?
Now they are reporting that Cowgirl didnt detonate her vest - someone else did. So what? She was still reported as a shooter at the theater.
So, is Mali done? Have they killed all the terrorists?
Now they are reporting that Cowgirl didnt detonate her vest - someone else did. So what? She was still reported as a shooter at the theater.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at November 20, 2015 03:01 PM (iQIUe)
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BTW - Kaisch says that he is going to take down Trump.
^^^
That's some funny stuff right there. Does anyone like Kasich, at all? Hell even the folks I know in Ohio hate him and think he's an asshole. I have a feeling that if he tries to take down Trump he's only going to cement Trump as the right guy in the kind of a lot of folks.
^^^
That's some funny stuff right there. Does anyone like Kasich, at all? Hell even the folks I know in Ohio hate him and think he's an asshole. I have a feeling that if he tries to take down Trump he's only going to cement Trump as the right guy in the kind of a lot of folks.
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 20, 2015 03:02 PM (KkVB6)
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@138 that extra 5% of the white vote is not gettable they hate you as much as the blacks and browns do
Posted by: denny at November 20, 2015 03:02 PM (kCywo)
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So what does he actually believe?
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:00 PM (YjDyJ)
I think he believes in not taking anything off the table, but I don't speak for Trump.
I'm also really surprised to find out that we as a country don't keep a database of resettled refugees.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:00 PM (YjDyJ)
I think he believes in not taking anything off the table, but I don't speak for Trump.
I'm also really surprised to find out that we as a country don't keep a database of resettled refugees.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:02 PM (AkOaV)
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To just expect all of that hard work to magically undo itself in our favor seems... well, I don't see the path to that happening.
It can happen but it would take a very significant, culture-shifting event like a huge disaster, war, or catastrophe. Something that forces the nation to reassess what is real and important and forces them to face that regularly for the long term.
Remember the huge shift in culture after 9/11? Reality shows plunged in popularity. Church attendance skyrocketed. Old fashioned values all the sudden were deeply important. But it went away because there wasn't any continuing pressure. It would have to be something even worse and more traumatic, that kept going.
To just expect all of that hard work to magically undo itself in our favor seems... well, I don't see the path to that happening.
It can happen but it would take a very significant, culture-shifting event like a huge disaster, war, or catastrophe. Something that forces the nation to reassess what is real and important and forces them to face that regularly for the long term.
Remember the huge shift in culture after 9/11? Reality shows plunged in popularity. Church attendance skyrocketed. Old fashioned values all the sudden were deeply important. But it went away because there wasn't any continuing pressure. It would have to be something even worse and more traumatic, that kept going.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2015 03:02 PM (39g3+)
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Kaisch says that he is going to take down Trump.
yeah and i wanted to be the next Micky Mantle and be the Center Fielder of the New York Yankees?
yeah and i wanted to be the next Micky Mantle and be the Center Fielder of the New York Yankees?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2015 03:02 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:02 PM (zOTsN)
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The question is moot.
Posted by: $18,662,686,094,128.34 at November 20, 2015 03:02 PM (evdj2)
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108 If I had a son, he would look like Marco Rubio.
Posted by: Pancho Villa at November 20, 2015 02:51 PM (GGCsk)
Yo tambien, amigo.
Posted by: Pancho Villa at November 20, 2015 02:51 PM (GGCsk)
Yo tambien, amigo.
Posted by: Cesar Chavez at November 20, 2015 03:03 PM (2Ojst)
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I just want to know when Marco Rubio stopped butt-fucking his 14 year old pool not.
There. The charge has been made, and because Rubio hasn't personally posted on this blog to refute the charge in
. . .
. . .
. . .
(wait for it)
. . .
. . .
Twelve seconds, it is obvious that the charge is TRUE ®
What? We were all thinking it!!!!!
There. The charge has been made, and because Rubio hasn't personally posted on this blog to refute the charge in
. . .
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. . .
(wait for it)
. . .
. . .
Twelve seconds, it is obvious that the charge is TRUE ®
What? We were all thinking it!!!!!
Posted by: Sharkman at November 20, 2015 03:03 PM (mstQR)
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DHS has lists ... Ace is probably on it, maybe all commenters. Maybe Clapper could clarify who he watches. It seems Muslims may be the only ones exempt, unless they have direct contact with terrorists ... though that was OK for Nidal Hasan apparently.
Hillary tweeted about Trump on this ... but she gets confused a lot. She thought he said something about Obama fetching him coffee, but that was her hubbie.
Hillary tweeted about Trump on this ... but she gets confused a lot. She thought he said something about Obama fetching him coffee, but that was her hubbie.
Posted by: Illiniwek at November 20, 2015 03:03 PM (Nc0+l)
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Trump is like that world destroyer in the New "'The Day The Earth Stood Still" ( by the way the new one sucked ) ....The more you try to destroy it, the stronger it gets
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2015 03:03 PM (DUoqb)
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He's a black, honorable, Christian, and intelligent. If your criteria is the character of the man, not leadership ability or experience, Carson is a great choice.
He seems to be the only one that understands that culture is what creates politics, not the other way around. He's the only one that seems to get, or at least display, that the world is going insane and horrifically corrupt and that has to stop. All the others seem pretty cool with it.
He seems to be the only one that understands that culture is what creates politics, not the other way around. He's the only one that seems to get, or at least display, that the world is going insane and horrifically corrupt and that has to stop. All the others seem pretty cool with it.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2015 03:03 PM (39g3+)
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166 Monty Python's Black Knight literally bled confidence, you know.
"Tis a flesh wound! Come back here coward! I'll bite your knee-caps off!"
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2015 03:01 PM (qY51H)
"Runnin' away, eh? You yellow bastard!"
"Tis a flesh wound! Come back here coward! I'll bite your knee-caps off!"
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2015 03:01 PM (qY51H)
"Runnin' away, eh? You yellow bastard!"
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at November 20, 2015 03:04 PM (2Ojst)
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Does anyone else think that pic of the dead terrorist girl in the bathtub at Drudge is awful.
What a dog face. She has a face for a burka.
What a dog face. She has a face for a burka.
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2015 03:04 PM (jJRIy)
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Joe's Law: Trolls believe none of the things they post.
Joe's Corollary: Your disgust is their oxygen.
Joe's Conjecture: All trolls are Average Joe.
Joe's Tautology: Average Joe sucks cock by choice.
Joe's Law: Trolls believe none of the things they post.
Joe's Corollary: Your disgust is their oxygen.
Joe's Conjecture: All trolls are Average Joe.
Joe's Tautology: Average Joe sucks cock by choice.
Posted by: Grump928(c) notes at November 20, 2015 03:04 PM (evdj2)
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Hillary will be the Dem nominee, if she's not indicted. (That's an astonishing sentence, no?)
Hillary has positioned herself to be Obama's third term but with "more cowbell" feminism.
This will pile up votes in some Deep Blue cities but there's a big risk for the Dems that with Hillary at the top of the ticket they'll get wiped out everywhere else.
Double bonus points if Obama doesn't actively hump for her (his excuse can be that doing so wouldn't be Presidential).
Triple bonus points if we have a serious domestic terrorist attack before November 2016.
Hillary has positioned herself to be Obama's third term but with "more cowbell" feminism.
This will pile up votes in some Deep Blue cities but there's a big risk for the Dems that with Hillary at the top of the ticket they'll get wiped out everywhere else.
Double bonus points if Obama doesn't actively hump for her (his excuse can be that doing so wouldn't be Presidential).
Triple bonus points if we have a serious domestic terrorist attack before November 2016.
Posted by: Ignoramus at November 20, 2015 03:04 PM (r1fLd)
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:04 PM (zOTsN)
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I got it
If we're looking for a guy who will make millions doing a terrible job, smoke cigarettes, and not give a crap....
Jay Cutler for president!!
If we're looking for a guy who will make millions doing a terrible job, smoke cigarettes, and not give a crap....
Jay Cutler for president!!
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 20, 2015 03:05 PM (2IvUu)
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What explains Texas then? It has been getting redder as it diversifies in terms of demographics.
Posted by: SH at November 20, 2015 02:59 PM (gmeXX)
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Texas is an odd one, you're right. But look at California, Colorado, Nevada, Virginia. All states that used to be very Republican which are now either very or somewhat Democrat. What do they all have in common? A huge increase in Hispanic population over the past 10ish years.
Posted by: SH at November 20, 2015 02:59 PM (gmeXX)
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Texas is an odd one, you're right. But look at California, Colorado, Nevada, Virginia. All states that used to be very Republican which are now either very or somewhat Democrat. What do they all have in common? A huge increase in Hispanic population over the past 10ish years.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:05 PM (0LHZx)
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What a dog face. She has a face for a burka.
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2015 03:04 PM (jJRIy)
Yup and i am afraid to see what the rest even looked like
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2015 03:04 PM (jJRIy)
Yup and i am afraid to see what the rest even looked like
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2015 03:05 PM (DUoqb)
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It can happen but it would take a very significant, culture-shifting event like a huge disaster, war, or catastrophe. Something that forces the nation to reassess what is real and important and forces them to face that regularly for the long term.
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Re-assessment, hell. Have the war, start a draft, send the crybullies to the front line. Done and done
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Re-assessment, hell. Have the war, start a draft, send the crybullies to the front line. Done and done
Posted by: Bigby's Iron Fist at November 20, 2015 03:05 PM (3ZtZW)
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Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2015 03:04 PM (jJRIy)
Yes, she was unfortunate looking.
But her cousin-husband seemed to be okay with her looks, so hey -- as my grandmother used to say -- there is somebody for everybody. Even if it has to be your cousin.
Yes, she was unfortunate looking.
But her cousin-husband seemed to be okay with her looks, so hey -- as my grandmother used to say -- there is somebody for everybody. Even if it has to be your cousin.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:05 PM (AkOaV)
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>>and i'm mentioning that because of those who say I am whoring with twitter.
It's her Ampersands, isn't it?
She probably let's you do Butt-Stuff, too.
Like that whore, Meghan!
It's her Ampersands, isn't it?
She probably let's you do Butt-Stuff, too.
Like that whore, Meghan!
Posted by: Garrett at November 20, 2015 03:05 PM (DxKQL)
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"Romney won whites overall, he won white men significantly."
Those are exit polls. So you're looking at what percentage Romney picked up among whites _who voted_.
Romney's problem was that a goodly number of working class whites simply sat out the election. They weren't thrilled with Obama, and they would very likely have come out to vote if the GOP had put forth someone they liked to challenge Obama.
Unfortunately, the GOP picked Romney, who to economically pounded working class whites looks like the guy who laid them off. So a lot of those whites just stayed home on Election Day.
Those are exit polls. So you're looking at what percentage Romney picked up among whites _who voted_.
Romney's problem was that a goodly number of working class whites simply sat out the election. They weren't thrilled with Obama, and they would very likely have come out to vote if the GOP had put forth someone they liked to challenge Obama.
Unfortunately, the GOP picked Romney, who to economically pounded working class whites looks like the guy who laid them off. So a lot of those whites just stayed home on Election Day.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 20, 2015 03:06 PM (noWW6)
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We exude a foul smell. The bitch hardly ever bathes.
Posted by: Hillary!s feet at November 20, 2015 03:06 PM (HgMAr)
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Rubio and Jeb Bush are completely unacceptable. If one of them is the nominee, I will have to think long and hard about voting. I believe the reason Romney lost is a mediocre conservative turnout, so I will keep that in mind, as well as the result of his loss.
Still...Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 20, 2015 02:30 PM (aW5/6)
I can't stand Donald Trump. Hold an intense dislike of the man and all he stands for--which is typically the strongest emotion I'll allow myselfas far as celebrities are concerned. Trump's right downthere with the Kardashians, in my estimation.
That said, I'll pull the lever for Trump in the general election if he wins the GOP nomination. Fair is fair. The two candidates I really like--Jindal and Fiorina--were/are dark horses from the beginning; Jindal's gone and Fiorina's fading. Besides, if I can vote for the likes of McCain and Romney, I can vote for Trump.
Anybody but Hillary and anybody includes Trump. God help us all.
Still...Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 20, 2015 02:30 PM (aW5/6)
I can't stand Donald Trump. Hold an intense dislike of the man and all he stands for--which is typically the strongest emotion I'll allow myselfas far as celebrities are concerned. Trump's right downthere with the Kardashians, in my estimation.
That said, I'll pull the lever for Trump in the general election if he wins the GOP nomination. Fair is fair. The two candidates I really like--Jindal and Fiorina--were/are dark horses from the beginning; Jindal's gone and Fiorina's fading. Besides, if I can vote for the likes of McCain and Romney, I can vote for Trump.
Anybody but Hillary and anybody includes Trump. God help us all.
Posted by: troyriser at November 20, 2015 03:06 PM (UWlp+)
Posted by: Sharkman at November 20, 2015 03:06 PM (mstQR)
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SH & Moo Moo -- I too can not explain Texas, and it does give me hope.
It's a majority minority state that goes overwhelmingly R.
But TX has always been its own unique place.
It's a majority minority state that goes overwhelmingly R.
But TX has always been its own unique place.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:06 PM (AkOaV)
196
160
I am not a Trump supporter but I always end up defending him from idiotic attacks from the right.
Posted by: Circe O'Valle at November 20, 2015 03:01 PM (rp8dK)
Ditto.
I am not a Trump supporter but I always end up defending him from idiotic attacks from the right.
Posted by: Circe O'Valle at November 20, 2015 03:01 PM (rp8dK)
Ditto.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at November 20, 2015 03:06 PM (4df7R)
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So has French forensic teams found all the bomb-chik-a-wwhhhaaa! body parts yet?
Inspector Clouseau, "It waz ah bewb belt!"
Inspector Clouseau, "It waz ah bewb belt!"
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2015 03:07 PM (qY51H)
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I've met Rubio at a fund raiser. First, he's a short fvcker.
His petty bull shit sucks, he seems shy and his stump speech is at best a B.
That means it is 100 times better than Jebs, which I have heard, and is a cure for insomnia.
His petty bull shit sucks, he seems shy and his stump speech is at best a B.
That means it is 100 times better than Jebs, which I have heard, and is a cure for insomnia.
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2015 03:07 PM (jJRIy)
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Now they are reporting that Cowgirl didnt detonate her vest - someone else did.
They've replayed the video on the channel I'm streaming about 20 times today. View of explosion and stuff flying out window, followed by explosion and stuff flying out window. Time between explosions? Between one and two seconds.
I'm no expert on explosions but it seems as if one caused the other. Though I'd think they'd be closer together.
They've replayed the video on the channel I'm streaming about 20 times today. View of explosion and stuff flying out window, followed by explosion and stuff flying out window. Time between explosions? Between one and two seconds.
I'm no expert on explosions but it seems as if one caused the other. Though I'd think they'd be closer together.
Posted by: se pa moron at November 20, 2015 03:07 PM (7v/r5)
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People tend to get more conservative as they age. Look at the baby boomers, for godssake.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:00 PM (AkOaV)
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That's a bit of a misnomer. People don't really change that much politically over time. Generally speaking the way you vote when you're young is the way you vote when you're old. And yes, I know Churchill's quote...sounds good, but it's not really true.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:00 PM (AkOaV)
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That's a bit of a misnomer. People don't really change that much politically over time. Generally speaking the way you vote when you're young is the way you vote when you're old. And yes, I know Churchill's quote...sounds good, but it's not really true.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:07 PM (0LHZx)
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There is another level here.
The Left continues to insist that this religion does not support the overthrow of Western Ideas, such as freedom of speech, quality, democracy, etc.
We are arguing about what a candidate may have meant, but that is stealing a base. The real argument is how do you deal with a group of people that are in conflict with our core values? Yes, only a very small percentage of these millions of people are willing to kill to advance that conflict in their favor. Yes, the majority are not terrorists.
But why aren't we talking about the incompatibility, and how do we deal with that?
In the 50's we talked about the commies, in the 20's we talked about the anarchists. Americans of those era's would never have imported more. I am sure they had databases.
What the left is doing, is assuming there is no problem. They will assume this right up until it is too late.
The Left continues to insist that this religion does not support the overthrow of Western Ideas, such as freedom of speech, quality, democracy, etc.
We are arguing about what a candidate may have meant, but that is stealing a base. The real argument is how do you deal with a group of people that are in conflict with our core values? Yes, only a very small percentage of these millions of people are willing to kill to advance that conflict in their favor. Yes, the majority are not terrorists.
But why aren't we talking about the incompatibility, and how do we deal with that?
In the 50's we talked about the commies, in the 20's we talked about the anarchists. Americans of those era's would never have imported more. I am sure they had databases.
What the left is doing, is assuming there is no problem. They will assume this right up until it is too late.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at November 20, 2015 03:07 PM (LWu6U)
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Attack in Mali is over.
Posted by: Carol at November 20, 2015 03:07 PM (sj3Ax)
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hispanics have notoriously low voter turn out
the worst of everybody
Hillary needs them to win
low hispanic voter turn out explains Texas, in part
alslo they jus didnt cotton to Abortion Barbie, its a cultural thing
hispanics have notoriously low voter turn out
the worst of everybody
Hillary needs them to win
low hispanic voter turn out explains Texas, in part
alslo they jus didnt cotton to Abortion Barbie, its a cultural thing
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:08 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2015 03:09 PM (qY51H)
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Does anyone else think that pic of the dead terrorist girl in the bathtub at Drudge is awful.
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Her post-mortem picture isn't any better.
http://tinyurl.com/pte3dod
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Her post-mortem picture isn't any better.
http://tinyurl.com/pte3dod
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at November 20, 2015 03:09 PM (fWAjv)
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But her cousin-husband seemed to be okay with her
looks, so hey -- as my grandmother used to say -- there is somebody for
everybody. Even if it has to be your cousin.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:05 PM (AkOaV)
I didn't know your family was from West Virginia. Learn something everyday.
looks, so hey -- as my grandmother used to say -- there is somebody for
everybody. Even if it has to be your cousin.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:05 PM (AkOaV)
I didn't know your family was from West Virginia. Learn something everyday.
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2015 03:09 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 20, 2015 03:09 PM (2IvUu)
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170 I think he believes in not taking anything off the table, but I don't speak for Trump.
She made it sound as though he was open to the idea, but Trump is saying differently on Twitter. This is one of the primary things that frustrates me about him. It often seems as though he responds to ideas with vague platitudes which leave his remarks open to interpretation.
She made it sound as though he was open to the idea, but Trump is saying differently on Twitter. This is one of the primary things that frustrates me about him. It often seems as though he responds to ideas with vague platitudes which leave his remarks open to interpretation.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:09 PM (YjDyJ)
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Romney's problem was that a goodly number of working class whites simply sat out the election. They weren't thrilled with Obama, and they would very likely have come out to vote if the GOP had put forth someone they liked to challenge Obama.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 20, 2015 03:06 PM (noWW6)
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There has been no data to back this up. Romney won 1.5M more votes than McCain did and still got his ass kicked.
Obama won because of what he did, not because of what Romney didn't do.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 20, 2015 03:06 PM (noWW6)
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There has been no data to back this up. Romney won 1.5M more votes than McCain did and still got his ass kicked.
Obama won because of what he did, not because of what Romney didn't do.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:09 PM (0LHZx)
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Texas is an odd one, you're right. But look at California, Colorado, Nevada, Virginia. All states that used to be very Republican which are now either very or somewhat Democrat. What do they all have in common? A huge increase in Hispanic population over the past 10ish years.
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I'm not a political scientist, but I'm not sure your conclusion really supports your hypothesis as to why those are growing bluer.
CA - whites are pretty much liberals there
CO - CA expats, environmental, but showing signs of moving redder
NV - owned entirely by the federal government and/or unions
VA - I'd say it is becoming bluer because more and more of its residents are employed by the federal government (directly or indirectly).
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I'm not a political scientist, but I'm not sure your conclusion really supports your hypothesis as to why those are growing bluer.
CA - whites are pretty much liberals there
CO - CA expats, environmental, but showing signs of moving redder
NV - owned entirely by the federal government and/or unions
VA - I'd say it is becoming bluer because more and more of its residents are employed by the federal government (directly or indirectly).
Posted by: SH at November 20, 2015 03:10 PM (gmeXX)
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Super PAC supporting Kasich vows to spend 2.5 million taking down Trump.
Posted by: Carol at November 20, 2015 03:10 PM (sj3Ax)
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Her post-mortem picture isn't any better.
http://tinyurl.com/pte3dod
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at November 20, 2015 03:09 PM (fWAjv)
WINNING!
http://tinyurl.com/pte3dod
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at November 20, 2015 03:09 PM (fWAjv)
WINNING!
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2015 03:10 PM (jJRIy)
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203: "alslo they jus didnt cotton to Abortion Barbie, its a cultural thing"
Wait until Julian Castro runs.
Wait until Julian Castro runs.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at November 20, 2015 03:10 PM (UPYPp)
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Hillary will be the Dem nominee, if she's not indicted. (That's an astonishing sentence, no?)
Probably even if she is. the fact that she's even running, let alone polling well while under investigation for like 8 felonies including flat out treason is just insane.
I believe the reason Romney lost is a mediocre conservative turnout
You believe falsely, there was huge turnout that election. The reason Romney lost is that decades of indoctrination + media bias got the election within the margin of fraud.
Probably even if she is. the fact that she's even running, let alone polling well while under investigation for like 8 felonies including flat out treason is just insane.
I believe the reason Romney lost is a mediocre conservative turnout
You believe falsely, there was huge turnout that election. The reason Romney lost is that decades of indoctrination + media bias got the election within the margin of fraud.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2015 03:10 PM (39g3+)
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117 Oh, what a non-story.
The government already has a database.
Fed and state govts have several lists already. There's the "no-fly" list,the SDN (Specially Designated Nationals) list, the list of people who have CCWs, the list of people who answered yes when their physician asked them if they have firearms in their home...
All a database is, is a fancy name for a list that can be searched and stored in a computer's memory.
The government already has a database.
Fed and state govts have several lists already. There's the "no-fly" list,the SDN (Specially Designated Nationals) list, the list of people who have CCWs, the list of people who answered yes when their physician asked them if they have firearms in their home...
All a database is, is a fancy name for a list that can be searched and stored in a computer's memory.
Posted by: scoville at November 20, 2015 03:11 PM (0adl+)
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@186 hispanics are too young or apathetic to vote in numbers that it would take. wendy davis appealed to white liberal women not hispanics or blacks also voter id stopped some but infuriated more.
Posted by: denny at November 20, 2015 03:11 PM (kCywo)
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It often seems as though he responds to ideas with vague platitudes which leave his remarks open to interpretation.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby
dont they all do that? yes they do
Posted by: Miss80sBaby
dont they all do that? yes they do
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:11 PM (zOTsN)
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That's a bit of a misnomer. People don't really change that much politically over time. Generally speaking the way you vote when you're young is the way you vote when you're old
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Agreed.
What was Liberal in 1980 is Conservative now. What was Conservative then, was 1950's Liberalism. etc
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Agreed.
What was Liberal in 1980 is Conservative now. What was Conservative then, was 1950's Liberalism. etc
Posted by: Bigby's Iron Fist at November 20, 2015 03:11 PM (3ZtZW)
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Hillary yesterday: Muslims are a peaceful people, this is not Islam.
Muslim Terrorist Today: alllllluuuuuu ackkkkkbar (fires AK-47 at a baby)
she's a smart feller, that Hillary.
Hillary yesterday: Muslims are a peaceful people, this is not Islam.
Muslim Terrorist Today: alllllluuuuuu ackkkkkbar (fires AK-47 at a baby)
she's a smart feller, that Hillary.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 20, 2015 03:11 PM (ODxAs)
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70----Immigration is every thing. Once 20-30M illegals become legal - and voters - nothing else will matter since it will all be over. You think the 20M new citizens from Mexico give a fuck about your gun rights? You think they want to embrace free market solutions for health care? You think they want a lower capital gains tax? Answer those questions and you'll understand why immigration isn't THE issue, it's the ONLY issue that matters.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 02:43 PM (0LHZx)
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Too late, Moo.
Those millions of 3rd worlders have legal kiddies.
I agree that it's THE issue but I fear that we have already lost.
Yes, a very hardline policy (which I strongly favor BTW) might slow the hopeandchange --- but without Congress and the courts on his side, there's not much that a POTUS can do.
In other words, DOOM.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 02:43 PM (0LHZx)
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Too late, Moo.
Those millions of 3rd worlders have legal kiddies.
I agree that it's THE issue but I fear that we have already lost.
Yes, a very hardline policy (which I strongly favor BTW) might slow the hopeandchange --- but without Congress and the courts on his side, there's not much that a POTUS can do.
In other words, DOOM.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2015 03:11 PM (T/5A0)
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193. I was a Walker/Cruz guy myself
Thought for sure Walker had it
Still hoping for Cruz
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 20, 2015 03:09 PM (2IvUu)
I was with you all the way. Walker like teh Fred just fell apart.
193. I was a Walker/Cruz guy myself
Thought for sure Walker had it
Still hoping for Cruz
Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 20, 2015 03:09 PM (2IvUu)
I was with you all the way. Walker like teh Fred just fell apart.
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2015 03:11 PM (jJRIy)
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"Remember the huge shift in culture after 9/11?"
I do, and I remember lachrymose observations about how "nothing will ever be the same again, the country is permanently changed, we're all going to be much more serious and sober from now on," and how I cynically laughed at those statements because they were coming from the goddamn NEWS MEDIA, and I predicted that it wouldn't be long at all before the media were right back to their old shallow flashy ways.
Sure 'nuff.
I do, and I remember lachrymose observations about how "nothing will ever be the same again, the country is permanently changed, we're all going to be much more serious and sober from now on," and how I cynically laughed at those statements because they were coming from the goddamn NEWS MEDIA, and I predicted that it wouldn't be long at all before the media were right back to their old shallow flashy ways.
Sure 'nuff.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 20, 2015 03:11 PM (noWW6)
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That's a bit of a misnomer. People don't really change that much politically over time. Generally speaking the way you vote when you're young is the way you vote when you're old. And yes, I know Churchill's quote...sounds good, but it's not really true.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:07 PM (0LHZx)
Look at the voting patterns of the baby boomer generation. There is no way you can say that they did not get more conservative as they aged.
Now, they might be unique in that -- I suppose it's possible. But there does seem to be some truth that people get more conservative over time.
And there is evidence of that happening with older millennials. Many voted Obama in '08 and self-described as Democrats. Now many more are independents. Lets see where they are in 10 years.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:07 PM (0LHZx)
Look at the voting patterns of the baby boomer generation. There is no way you can say that they did not get more conservative as they aged.
Now, they might be unique in that -- I suppose it's possible. But there does seem to be some truth that people get more conservative over time.
And there is evidence of that happening with older millennials. Many voted Obama in '08 and self-described as Democrats. Now many more are independents. Lets see where they are in 10 years.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:11 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:11 PM (zOTsN)
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Obama has been a gift to the GOP, though a curse upon the country.
43-1
Since 2008
Republicans +2 Houses of Congress, +8 Governors, +33 State Legislative Chambers.
Democrats retained Presidency.
And the Republicans bid fair to take the Presidency this cycle. God help us all.
43-1
Since 2008
Republicans +2 Houses of Congress, +8 Governors, +33 State Legislative Chambers.
Democrats retained Presidency.
And the Republicans bid fair to take the Presidency this cycle. God help us all.
Posted by: Grump928(c) notes at November 20, 2015 03:12 PM (evdj2)
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But TX has always been its own unique place.
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Yes it is. There are many reasons, some of which cannot be replicated. But I suspect that is one reason why I am not as pessimistic as others. If I lived in CA or NY, I'd be pretty cynical, but living in Texas gives you hope.
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Yes it is. There are many reasons, some of which cannot be replicated. But I suspect that is one reason why I am not as pessimistic as others. If I lived in CA or NY, I'd be pretty cynical, but living in Texas gives you hope.
Posted by: SH at November 20, 2015 03:12 PM (gmeXX)
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All the idiots I know who voted for B.O. twice tell me: "After watching the Republican debates, I like Kasich and Rubio".
There you go.
All the idiots I know who voted for B.O. twice tell me: "After watching the Republican debates, I like Kasich and Rubio".
There you go.
Posted by: wth at November 20, 2015 03:12 PM (HgMAr)
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Wait until Julian Castro runs.
I still half believe he'll come riding in to the rescue once Hillary craters due to indictments or whatever. Its a pretty standard Democrat tactic: run the one the machine backs, then if they die or are thrown in jail, bring in a ringer, no matter how late or unlawful it is. And win the sympathy vote with a candidate noone has had time to vet or examine.
I still half believe he'll come riding in to the rescue once Hillary craters due to indictments or whatever. Its a pretty standard Democrat tactic: run the one the machine backs, then if they die or are thrown in jail, bring in a ringer, no matter how late or unlawful it is. And win the sympathy vote with a candidate noone has had time to vet or examine.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2015 03:12 PM (39g3+)
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Lauren said it first and she is right
Hillary will pick Julian Castro as veep
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:11 PM
A lot of Us have been saying that...
Lauren said it first and she is right
Hillary will pick Julian Castro as veep
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:11 PM
A lot of Us have been saying that...
Posted by: donna at November 20, 2015 03:13 PM (/dSsq)
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It often seems as though he responds to ideas with vague platitudes which leave his remarks open to interpretation. Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:09 PM (YjDyJ)
He was on a rope line, signing autographs, obviously distracted. If you saw the video it is crystal clear. A gotcha moment for the press.
He was on a rope line, signing autographs, obviously distracted. If you saw the video it is crystal clear. A gotcha moment for the press.
Posted by: se pa moron at November 20, 2015 03:13 PM (7v/r5)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:14 PM (AkOaV)
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217 dont they all do that? yes they do
Right, they all do it to a certain extent, but Trump and Dr. Carson seem to do it more often than the others, which makes sense because they do not have as many policy specifics as, say, Cruz or Rubio.
Right, they all do it to a certain extent, but Trump and Dr. Carson seem to do it more often than the others, which makes sense because they do not have as many policy specifics as, say, Cruz or Rubio.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:14 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Grump928(c) notes at November 20, 2015 03:14 PM (evdj2)
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O/T
I have a friend with a new town house that is so tightly built that when she turns on both her fireplaces there is not enough up draft for them.
Any ideas? Do they make chimney fans to make a draft?
I have a friend with a new town house that is so tightly built that when she turns on both her fireplaces there is not enough up draft for them.
Any ideas? Do they make chimney fans to make a draft?
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2015 03:14 PM (jJRIy)
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He was on a rope line, signing autographs, obviously distracted. If you saw the video it is crystal clear. A gotcha moment for the press.
There's gonna be plenty of gotchas no matter who the Rep. nominee is...
There's gonna be plenty of gotchas no matter who the Rep. nominee is...
Posted by: donna at November 20, 2015 03:14 PM (/dSsq)
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>>>ey ace, don't you get sick of it?
Going on twitter and dealing with the fanboys with marching orders who are clearly full of shit trying to push their narratives and opinions and are blatantly dishonest hacks coming up with shared "talking points" crafted by people like Frank Luntz?
Or is it fun for you?
Personally, I'm kind of over it.
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eh, I still get very self-righteous when I see stupidity, particularly of the herd-mind "let's make this viral" sort.
so in a way I take a vain (juvenile) satisfaction in it.
Going on twitter and dealing with the fanboys with marching orders who are clearly full of shit trying to push their narratives and opinions and are blatantly dishonest hacks coming up with shared "talking points" crafted by people like Frank Luntz?
Or is it fun for you?
Personally, I'm kind of over it.
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eh, I still get very self-righteous when I see stupidity, particularly of the herd-mind "let's make this viral" sort.
so in a way I take a vain (juvenile) satisfaction in it.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 03:15 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Carol at November 20, 2015 03:15 PM (sj3Ax)
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Wait until Julian Castro runs.
I still half believe he'll come riding in to the rescue once Hillary craters due to indictments or whatever. Its a pretty standard Democrat tactic: run the one the machine backs, then if they die or are thrown in jail, bring in a ringer, no matter how late or unlawful it is. And win the sympathy vote with a candidate noone has had time to vet or examine.
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What fun that would be. HRC being indicted and Julian Castro being the Dem nominee. My gosh, it would be a route. Alas, I doubt this will come to pass.
But if it does, we are going to need a lot of popcorn.
I still half believe he'll come riding in to the rescue once Hillary craters due to indictments or whatever. Its a pretty standard Democrat tactic: run the one the machine backs, then if they die or are thrown in jail, bring in a ringer, no matter how late or unlawful it is. And win the sympathy vote with a candidate noone has had time to vet or examine.
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What fun that would be. HRC being indicted and Julian Castro being the Dem nominee. My gosh, it would be a route. Alas, I doubt this will come to pass.
But if it does, we are going to need a lot of popcorn.
Posted by: SH at November 20, 2015 03:15 PM (gmeXX)
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People certainly do change their political views as the grow older...as a matter of fact only fuckin idiots don't
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2015 03:15 PM (DUoqb)
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There's gonna be plenty of gotchas no matter who the Rep. nominee is...
and if there's not, the State Media will just make some up out of whole cloth. It's what they do, it's all they do.
and if there's not, the State Media will just make some up out of whole cloth. It's what they do, it's all they do.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 03:15 PM (evdj2)
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But there does seem to be some truth that people get more conservative over time.
Its true, most people do. Almost everyone is a lot more leftist in youth than they are older, simply because reality beats it out of you. All those pie in the sky childish happy clappy crap ideas get discarded as you learn how the real world works like getting your first paycheck and seeing how much the government takes, or trying to raise your kids. But its not universal, and some people never grow up, intellectually and morally, at least.
Its true, most people do. Almost everyone is a lot more leftist in youth than they are older, simply because reality beats it out of you. All those pie in the sky childish happy clappy crap ideas get discarded as you learn how the real world works like getting your first paycheck and seeing how much the government takes, or trying to raise your kids. But its not universal, and some people never grow up, intellectually and morally, at least.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2015 03:15 PM (39g3+)
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But Hillary Clinton got her angry, fist clenching, shrieking photo-op out of it.
Posted by: se pa moron at November 20, 2015 02:34 PM (7v/r5)
You sure she wasn't just pushing one out in her Depends?
Posted by: se pa moron at November 20, 2015 02:34 PM (7v/r5)
You sure she wasn't just pushing one out in her Depends?
Posted by: Can I Start Shooting Now? at November 20, 2015 03:15 PM (2xbUR)
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Right, they all do it to a certain extent, but Trump and Dr. Carson seem to do it more often than the others, which makes sense because they do not have as many policy specifics as, say, Cruz or Rubio.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:14 PM (YjDyJ)
Or its that you just don't like them so you don't notice it when the others are doing it as much.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:14 PM (YjDyJ)
Or its that you just don't like them so you don't notice it when the others are doing it as much.
Posted by: buzzion at November 20, 2015 03:16 PM (z/Ubi)
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and if there's not, the State Media will just make some up out of whole cloth. It's what they do, it's all they do.
Yes, yes they will...
and if there's not, the State Media will just make some up out of whole cloth. It's what they do, it's all they do.
Yes, yes they will...
Posted by: donna at November 20, 2015 03:16 PM (/dSsq)
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Marco Rubio torched any chance he had getting my
vote when he went all in on the Gang of 8 bullshit. I was hard-core
pro-Rubio here in FL in 2010 and he swore up and down that amnesty was
unacceptable and he wants the current laws enforced, etc. Back stabbing
your base is not the way to win friends and influence people. So he can
fcuk right off. I don't care how nice he looks or smooth he sounds. He
does not get my vote. Neither do Jeb! or Kasich. Everyone else I might
compromise on.
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 20, 2015 02:57 PM (KkVB6)
I also remember how he defended his actions by pulling out Obama's "bitter clinger" rhetoric. I am assuming that went over like a lead balloon with his voters since he quickly backtracked from calling them a bunch of racist yahoos by saying voter concerns were "understandable".
vote when he went all in on the Gang of 8 bullshit. I was hard-core
pro-Rubio here in FL in 2010 and he swore up and down that amnesty was
unacceptable and he wants the current laws enforced, etc. Back stabbing
your base is not the way to win friends and influence people. So he can
fcuk right off. I don't care how nice he looks or smooth he sounds. He
does not get my vote. Neither do Jeb! or Kasich. Everyone else I might
compromise on.
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 20, 2015 02:57 PM (KkVB6)
I also remember how he defended his actions by pulling out Obama's "bitter clinger" rhetoric. I am assuming that went over like a lead balloon with his voters since he quickly backtracked from calling them a bunch of racist yahoos by saying voter concerns were "understandable".
Posted by: redbanzai at November 20, 2015 03:16 PM (OrI3J)
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Anybody know Hillary's stance on Obamacare? What 'improvements' to come?
Posted by: Bigby's Iron Fist at November 20, 2015 03:16 PM (3ZtZW)
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But its not universal, and some people never grow up, intellectually and morally, at least.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2015 03:15 PM (39g3+)
yeah they are called liberals or fuckin idiots but I repeat myself
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2015 03:15 PM (39g3+)
yeah they are called liberals or fuckin idiots but I repeat myself
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2015 03:16 PM (DUoqb)
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what i am obseving is that twitter is an extremely nervous medium. people get panicky and fucking "LET'S MAKE RASH DECISIONS" so quickly.
It is a different thing that a blog post, or even a blog comment. I rarely see people go from 0 to 60 so quickly as on Twitter, where everything is a rush to be the first and to be a "Thought Leader" and "get this trending."
it's just so fucking stupid. It makes smart people stupid.
it's very odd.
It is a different thing that a blog post, or even a blog comment. I rarely see people go from 0 to 60 so quickly as on Twitter, where everything is a rush to be the first and to be a "Thought Leader" and "get this trending."
it's just so fucking stupid. It makes smart people stupid.
it's very odd.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 03:16 PM (dciA+)
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"Nazi"
I tiresomely post again:
"...so heinous a crime that even innocence is not a defense."- Alan Dershowitz
I tiresomely post again:
"...so heinous a crime that even innocence is not a defense."- Alan Dershowitz
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 20, 2015 03:16 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2015 03:16 PM (qY51H)
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239:"only fuckin idiots don't"
We have no shortage of those. In fact, their population (regardless of racial demographics) is growing.
We have no shortage of those. In fact, their population (regardless of racial demographics) is growing.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at November 20, 2015 03:17 PM (UPYPp)
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Let's see. Within a week we have had the Paris attacks and now the Mali attacks. And in between Obama wanting to bring more refugees from the middle east to the country.
So now is the time they deem ripe to attack Trump by saying he wants to have a database of Muslims?
Mr. Trump is very fortunate in his enemies.
So now is the time they deem ripe to attack Trump by saying he wants to have a database of Muslims?
Mr. Trump is very fortunate in his enemies.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Bury the Hatchet and Other Weapons at the Outrage Outlet! at November 20, 2015 03:17 PM (hLRSq)
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I rarely see people go from 0 to 60 so quickly as on Twitter, where everything is a rush to be the first and to be a "Thought Leader" and "get this trending."
A thought leader in 144 characters. *shakes head*
Such is our time.
A thought leader in 144 characters. *shakes head*
Such is our time.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 03:17 PM (evdj2)
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Right, they all do it to a certain extent, but Trump and Dr. Carson seem to do it more often than the others, which makes sense because they do not have as many policy specifics as, say, Cruz or Rubio.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby
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Mr Rubio is vague as shit on immigration
what the other candidates have that Trump and Carson do not is RECORDS. They are politicians, and their ideas are dicernable from the record in office
and I do not like Mr Rubio on immigration at all. And because of his record, even if he were to adopt Mr Cruz or Mr Trumps or Mr Sessions ideas on immigration, I would not believe him or trust him. And if I cannot believe or trust a candidate on immigration, I certainly will not vote for him
Posted by: Miss80sBaby
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Mr Rubio is vague as shit on immigration
what the other candidates have that Trump and Carson do not is RECORDS. They are politicians, and their ideas are dicernable from the record in office
and I do not like Mr Rubio on immigration at all. And because of his record, even if he were to adopt Mr Cruz or Mr Trumps or Mr Sessions ideas on immigration, I would not believe him or trust him. And if I cannot believe or trust a candidate on immigration, I certainly will not vote for him
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:18 PM (zOTsN)
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Right, they all do it to a certain extent, but Trump and Dr. Carson seem to do it more often than the others, which makes sense because they do not have as many policy specifics as, say, Cruz or Rubio.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:14 PM (YjDyJ)
Why do you think that?
I mean, I know it's the media meme, but why is it that Trump and Carson are uniquely short on specifics?
Put another way -- let's look at George W. Bush's "specifics" from '00, or Obamas from '08. How much of that actually happened as their specifics said it would?
Almost none of it.
It's a media game to demand politicians release policy papers (and both Trump and Carson have) so that they can tear the policies apart, when everyone knows those policy papers mean jackshit and will never be implemented.
So who cares if Bush hired a team of 25 people to focus group and poll test hundreds of pages of position papers that no one will read? (I'm guessing, I have no idea if he has position papers out there)
They will give no insight in to how he will govern, they are subject to change at any moment, and they will be DOA with Congress.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:14 PM (YjDyJ)
Why do you think that?
I mean, I know it's the media meme, but why is it that Trump and Carson are uniquely short on specifics?
Put another way -- let's look at George W. Bush's "specifics" from '00, or Obamas from '08. How much of that actually happened as their specifics said it would?
Almost none of it.
It's a media game to demand politicians release policy papers (and both Trump and Carson have) so that they can tear the policies apart, when everyone knows those policy papers mean jackshit and will never be implemented.
So who cares if Bush hired a team of 25 people to focus group and poll test hundreds of pages of position papers that no one will read? (I'm guessing, I have no idea if he has position papers out there)
They will give no insight in to how he will govern, they are subject to change at any moment, and they will be DOA with Congress.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:18 PM (AkOaV)
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230 He was on a rope line, signing autographs, obviously distracted. If you saw the video it is crystal clear. A gotcha moment for the press.
Then why did Pierson say what she did? If Trump is just voicing support for the preexisting terrorist watchlist, then why not just say that?
Then why did Pierson say what she did? If Trump is just voicing support for the preexisting terrorist watchlist, then why not just say that?
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:18 PM (YjDyJ)
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Twitter is pretty much a childish medium. It has its place, and it does allow for the dissemination of information. But it is frankly just a large clique who makes a lot of snide and snarky remarks. Of course that is part of its fun.
Posted by: SH at November 20, 2015 03:18 PM (gmeXX)
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i mean, I don't know, man, there was such a freak-out that WE HAVE NO HOUSE LEADER and REPUBLICANS ARE IN DISARRAY and GOD-DAMN LOUIE GOHMERT FOR MESSING THIS UP.
I don't understand why people wish to make themselves into jumpy, shrieky wrecks.
and again it's the medium of twitter -- for some reason, people who might otherwise be somewhat coherent just feel that twitter is a good place to have a technology-caused nervous breakdown in public.
I don't understand why people wish to make themselves into jumpy, shrieky wrecks.
and again it's the medium of twitter -- for some reason, people who might otherwise be somewhat coherent just feel that twitter is a good place to have a technology-caused nervous breakdown in public.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 03:18 PM (dciA+)
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Torquewrench is right about Romney. He was a bad choice in 2012, but that's who the Establishment wanted.
Romney wasn't credible on attacking ObamaCare, nor for standing up for the Average American Joe. He only had Managerial Competence.
Huckabee said it well: "I'm like the guy you work with. Romney's the guy who fires you."
Romney was universally hated by the other Republican candidates in 2008 and 2012 for being a dirty player and for being totally full of sh*t, but couldn't muster the same against Obama in 2012.
Romney wasn't credible on attacking ObamaCare, nor for standing up for the Average American Joe. He only had Managerial Competence.
Huckabee said it well: "I'm like the guy you work with. Romney's the guy who fires you."
Romney was universally hated by the other Republican candidates in 2008 and 2012 for being a dirty player and for being totally full of sh*t, but couldn't muster the same against Obama in 2012.
Posted by: Ignoramus at November 20, 2015 03:19 PM (r1fLd)
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marco rubio is the barack obama of the republican party.
biden told me so, he said "I mean, you got the first mainstream cuban-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."
biden told me so, he said "I mean, you got the first mainstream cuban-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 20, 2015 03:19 PM (vb33c)
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Twitter = Proving how much a Mean Grrl you are in 144 characters.
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But it is frankly just a large clique who makes a lot of snide and snarky remarks.
*shiftyeyes* Yes ... twitter ... indeed.
*shiftyeyes* Yes ... twitter ... indeed.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 03:19 PM (evdj2)
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Someone brought in a bag of gingerbread jihadis.
It started out as gingerbread men, but the bag got dropped a few times. By the time it was opened, little gingerbread body parts everywhere.
It started out as gingerbread men, but the bag got dropped a few times. By the time it was opened, little gingerbread body parts everywhere.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 20, 2015 03:19 PM (YEelc)
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eh, I still get very self-righteous when I see stupidity, particularly of the herd-mind "let's make this viral" sort.
so in a way I take a vain (juvenile) satisfaction in it.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 03:15 PM (dciA+)
I guess. I just find the whole exercise disingenuous. No one is changing anyones minds, they're just trying to out-clever each other with word-smithed talking points.
But I guess that's why you're the blogger and we're the commenters.
so in a way I take a vain (juvenile) satisfaction in it.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 03:15 PM (dciA+)
I guess. I just find the whole exercise disingenuous. No one is changing anyones minds, they're just trying to out-clever each other with word-smithed talking points.
But I guess that's why you're the blogger and we're the commenters.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:20 PM (AkOaV)
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Monty Python's Black Knight literally bled confidence, you know.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Bury the Hatchet and Other Weapons at the Outrage Outlet! at November 20, 2015 03:00 PM (hLRSq)
Ah, to be able to respond to that with out men in black suits with no sense of humor showing up at my front door...
But the point stands- TFG *did* win 2 elections. You can hate everything he has done, but you have to accept that he won two elections.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Bury the Hatchet and Other Weapons at the Outrage Outlet! at November 20, 2015 03:00 PM (hLRSq)
Ah, to be able to respond to that with out men in black suits with no sense of humor showing up at my front door...
But the point stands- TFG *did* win 2 elections. You can hate everything he has done, but you have to accept that he won two elections.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at November 20, 2015 03:20 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2015 03:20 PM (qY51H)
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Talk show in OKC covered this. Conclusion? Even if the original story was correct, most people here would agree with it. So it wouldn't hurt Trump in OK.
Posted by: Soona at November 20, 2015 03:20 PM (Fmupd)
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Look, I'm sorry fellas, but Marco Rubio is absolutely unacceptable to me. Absolutely unacceptable.
That's too bad. I'm of the opinion he's the only Republican I think has a chance of winning.
I'm not joining a twitter mob on his behalf, though. I don't do that sort of thing for anyone.
That's too bad. I'm of the opinion he's the only Republican I think has a chance of winning.
I'm not joining a twitter mob on his behalf, though. I don't do that sort of thing for anyone.
Posted by: Vyce at November 20, 2015 03:21 PM (Xylma)
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Talked to a friend who is super conservative like Geghis Khan type.
Asked him about Trump. He said, "eh, why not? Can't be worse."
Asked him about Trump. He said, "eh, why not? Can't be worse."
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2015 03:21 PM (2Ocf1)
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>>> Twitter is pretty much a childish medium. It has its place, and it does allow for the dissemination of information. But it is frankly just a large clique who makes a lot of snide and snarky remarks. Of course that is part of its fun.
I really think, seriously think, that just as humans have a built-in biological imperative to spread our genes -- our physical memes -- we also have a biological imperative to spread our intellectual DNA, our mental memes.
You see Twitter and it's nothing but people bukkakeing their mental DNA on each other.
I think thinking requires, get this, thought. But increasingly, the name of the game is to get people stampeding towards a thought they never thought through.
and that's when I get pissed off and start saying "Calm down, slow down, put your brain back in."
I really think, seriously think, that just as humans have a built-in biological imperative to spread our genes -- our physical memes -- we also have a biological imperative to spread our intellectual DNA, our mental memes.
You see Twitter and it's nothing but people bukkakeing their mental DNA on each other.
I think thinking requires, get this, thought. But increasingly, the name of the game is to get people stampeding towards a thought they never thought through.
and that's when I get pissed off and start saying "Calm down, slow down, put your brain back in."
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 03:21 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Bigby's Iron Fist at November 20, 2015 03:21 PM (3ZtZW)
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i may vote for him just to watch the people who hate him convulse
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at November 20, 2015 03:21 PM (0O7c5)
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Such is our time.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 03:17 PM (evdj2)
People want to get known for that on killer quip.
*shrugs*
I got a kick out of one of my comments being a quote of the day here, so the desire for fame, for glory, is there. And Twitter is so easy.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 03:17 PM (evdj2)
People want to get known for that on killer quip.
*shrugs*
I got a kick out of one of my comments being a quote of the day here, so the desire for fame, for glory, is there. And Twitter is so easy.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Bury the Hatchet and Other Weapons at the Outrage Outlet! at November 20, 2015 03:22 PM (hLRSq)
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Trump is the, "from Hell's heart I spit at thee" vote?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2015 03:22 PM (qY51H)
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i may vote for him just to watch the people who hate him convulse
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at November 20, 2015 03:21 PM (0O7c5)
Trump? I think that is a large part of his appeal...it is to me
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at November 20, 2015 03:21 PM (0O7c5)
Trump? I think that is a large part of his appeal...it is to me
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2015 03:22 PM (DUoqb)
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243 Or its that you just don't like them so you don't notice it when the others are doing it as much.
I like Dr. Carson as a person but feel uncomfortable with Carson the politician. As for which candidates receive most of my attention, that would be Cruz, Fiorina, and Rubio. It was Perry, Walker, and Jindal until each of them respectively dropped-out of the race.
I like Dr. Carson as a person but feel uncomfortable with Carson the politician. As for which candidates receive most of my attention, that would be Cruz, Fiorina, and Rubio. It was Perry, Walker, and Jindal until each of them respectively dropped-out of the race.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:22 PM (YjDyJ)
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257 Twitter is pretty much a childish medium. It has its place, and it does allow for the dissemination of information. But it is frankly just a large clique who makes a lot of snide and snarky remarks. Of course that is part of its fun.
Posted by: SH at November 20, 2015 03:18 PM (gmeXX)
s'pose.
It's like a bunch of moody teenagers sitting around seeing who can be the most "ironic" and/or offended.
Posted by: SH at November 20, 2015 03:18 PM (gmeXX)
s'pose.
It's like a bunch of moody teenagers sitting around seeing who can be the most "ironic" and/or offended.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:22 PM (AkOaV)
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>>>
That's too bad. I'm of the opinion he's the only Republican I think has a chance of winning.
eh, if I thought so, i might be more inclined towards him, but I don't. I don't accept the idea that the candidate must be the same old sort of candidate we always have (and usually lose with).
Polls say, for example, he's not as good as carson.
(for the moment -- carson is falling.)
That's too bad. I'm of the opinion he's the only Republican I think has a chance of winning.
eh, if I thought so, i might be more inclined towards him, but I don't. I don't accept the idea that the candidate must be the same old sort of candidate we always have (and usually lose with).
Polls say, for example, he's not as good as carson.
(for the moment -- carson is falling.)
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 03:22 PM (dciA+)
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"He was on a rope line, signing autographs, obviously distracted. If you
saw the video it is crystal clear. A gotcha moment for the press."
Trump tends to personalize disputes and figures that certain journalists have it in for him.
At some point the realization may dawn that as a Republican, damn near ALL of the journalists have it in for him.
He needs to get better at spotting and batting away these obvious bait questions. If someone asks a loaded question about specific policies, don't bite down on it. Respond with a general attack.
Question: "Mr. Trump, do you support having Muslims sew a crescent on the outside of their clothing as a warning?"
Answer: "People are upset and are throwing around all kinds of ideas. But why are people so upset? It's because the security policies we have right now are a miserable failure, and everyone knows it. I'll be offering strong, sound alternatives."
Then physically turn and move away from the bait questioner, pronto.
saw the video it is crystal clear. A gotcha moment for the press."
Trump tends to personalize disputes and figures that certain journalists have it in for him.
At some point the realization may dawn that as a Republican, damn near ALL of the journalists have it in for him.
He needs to get better at spotting and batting away these obvious bait questions. If someone asks a loaded question about specific policies, don't bite down on it. Respond with a general attack.
Question: "Mr. Trump, do you support having Muslims sew a crescent on the outside of their clothing as a warning?"
Answer: "People are upset and are throwing around all kinds of ideas. But why are people so upset? It's because the security policies we have right now are a miserable failure, and everyone knows it. I'll be offering strong, sound alternatives."
Then physically turn and move away from the bait questioner, pronto.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 20, 2015 03:23 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: buzzion at November 20, 2015 03:23 PM (z/Ubi)
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265:"You can hate everything he has done, but you have to accept that he won two elections"
To borrow from one of his infamous quotes: He didn't do that by himself.
Without a fully complicit media, he wouldn't have won his first primary.
To borrow from one of his infamous quotes: He didn't do that by himself.
Without a fully complicit media, he wouldn't have won his first primary.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at November 20, 2015 03:23 PM (UPYPp)
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Trump is the, "from Hell's heart I spit at thee" vote?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2015 03:22 PM (qY51H)
Yup
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2015 03:22 PM (qY51H)
Yup
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2015 03:23 PM (DUoqb)
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The advantage for Conservatives is that we have a vast history of thought to steal from, and most people have never heard it before.
Injecting a like Hayek or Burke and you too can sound like an intellectual.
Injecting a like Hayek or Burke and you too can sound like an intellectual.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 03:23 PM (evdj2)
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meh, I am very close to the point of saying "fuck the executive branch" lets spend our energy on getting super majorities in the house and senate.
after we get the house and senate and send a message by sending ryan and mcconell home we, as jesse jackson would say, cut the nuts off the office president until everyone understands they are our representatives not our governors.
after we get the house and senate and send a message by sending ryan and mcconell home we, as jesse jackson would say, cut the nuts off the office president until everyone understands they are our representatives not our governors.
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 20, 2015 03:23 PM (vb33c)
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I don't buy Castro as VP for Hillary. There's no way she picks up Texas no matter who she picks from there, and he's not insurance. Hillary needs a Biden, someone so awful that people argue not to take her down simply because they would be next in office. Someone just absolutely unthinkable for the presidency like Sheila Jackson-Lee. She needs someone to keep impeachment off her back.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2015 03:23 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 03:23 PM (evdj2)
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eh, I still get very self-righteous when I see stupidity, particularly of the herd-mind "let's make this viral" sort.
so in a way I take a vain (juvenile) satisfaction in it.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 03:15 PM (dciA+)
Twitter has passed me by. I see nothing good in replying to some dickhead in the heat of the moment.
That and I still can't figure it out. Richard Blaine@RichardBlaine2
I think I know how to reply, but I still don't get the # shit.
so in a way I take a vain (juvenile) satisfaction in it.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 03:15 PM (dciA+)
Twitter has passed me by. I see nothing good in replying to some dickhead in the heat of the moment.
That and I still can't figure it out. Richard Blaine@RichardBlaine2
I think I know how to reply, but I still don't get the # shit.
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2015 03:23 PM (jJRIy)
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This latest Lefty Lie is ALL OVER Faceplant. I posted a link to the Breitbart story, and I hope ALL of you do the same.
Sorry for the hollering, but we have to saddle up and fight back, explode their lies wherever they are aimed. I don't care if you support Trump or don't, at this point: because every Lefty Lie is intended to discredit not just its target, but everyone in the vicinity -- which means everyone who opposes Them.
Know what I mean, jelly bean?
Even my libertarian millennials in my family are buying this bullshit. It has to be countered, and exploded, wherever they aim it.
Sorry for the hollering, but we have to saddle up and fight back, explode their lies wherever they are aimed. I don't care if you support Trump or don't, at this point: because every Lefty Lie is intended to discredit not just its target, but everyone in the vicinity -- which means everyone who opposes Them.
Know what I mean, jelly bean?
Even my libertarian millennials in my family are buying this bullshit. It has to be countered, and exploded, wherever they aim it.
Posted by: Beverly at November 20, 2015 03:23 PM (vrSGu)
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"I keep suggesting a stripper/pornstar candidate. Not sure why the idea isn't gaining traction."
The spector of the Hillbeast stripping to compete. [Shudder]
The spector of the Hillbeast stripping to compete. [Shudder]
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at November 20, 2015 03:23 PM (iDWKC)
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Trump is the, "from Hell's heart I spit at thee" vote?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2015 03:22 PM (qY51H)
Yes. He's the "Burn it down" or, more concisely, "F*ck you" candidate.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2015 03:22 PM (qY51H)
Yes. He's the "Burn it down" or, more concisely, "F*ck you" candidate.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at November 20, 2015 03:24 PM (kff5f)
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as long as we are alloweed to make shit up about canidates we dont prefer
the demo ALWAYS say Rubio is not the Republican Obama, he is the Republican John Edwards
why would they say that?
there is a rumor he has two children out of wedlock with a woman not his wife, thats why. So it will be interesting to see what Gloria Alred and her red dress have dug up today
as long as we are alloweed to make shit up about canidates we dont prefer
the demo ALWAYS say Rubio is not the Republican Obama, he is the Republican John Edwards
why would they say that?
there is a rumor he has two children out of wedlock with a woman not his wife, thats why. So it will be interesting to see what Gloria Alred and her red dress have dug up today
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:24 PM (zOTsN)
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You see Twitter and it's nothing but people bukkakeing their mental DNA on each other.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 03:21 PM (dciA+)
That should be the new slogan for their new ad campaign.
"Twitter: For those special people who enjoy bukkakeing their mental DNA on each other."
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 03:21 PM (dciA+)
That should be the new slogan for their new ad campaign.
"Twitter: For those special people who enjoy bukkakeing their mental DNA on each other."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:24 PM (AkOaV)
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This is even more funny as the US government under Obama would love to increase surveillance and databases on gun owners, Christians, Tea-Party members, etc.
Posted by: Cheri at November 20, 2015 03:24 PM (oiNtH)
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bukkakeing
that cannot be the proper spelling for that
Posted by: buzzion at November 20, 2015 03:23 PM (z/Ubi)
do you know what the kanji is / are?
that cannot be the proper spelling for that
Posted by: buzzion at November 20, 2015 03:23 PM (z/Ubi)
do you know what the kanji is / are?
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 20, 2015 03:24 PM (vb33c)
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I think thinking requires, get this, thought. But increasingly, the name of the game is to get people stampeding towards a thought they never thought through.
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Twitter is just a sign of the times, it is the perfect medium for a soundbite nation. We have collectively lost focus and the ability to deep think. That isn't twitter's fault of course, but it is why twitter has been so readily adopted. I certainly do not think it is all bad of course. In general, the quicker ideas spread, the quicker they evolve, the more advancements we make. But ideas are like any other pathogen, bad ideas can spread quickly and cause outbreaks that lead to pandemics.
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Twitter is just a sign of the times, it is the perfect medium for a soundbite nation. We have collectively lost focus and the ability to deep think. That isn't twitter's fault of course, but it is why twitter has been so readily adopted. I certainly do not think it is all bad of course. In general, the quicker ideas spread, the quicker they evolve, the more advancements we make. But ideas are like any other pathogen, bad ideas can spread quickly and cause outbreaks that lead to pandemics.
Posted by: SH at November 20, 2015 03:25 PM (gmeXX)
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274:"Trump is the, "from Hell's heart I spit at thee" vote?"
Yes. As quoted by Gozer the Destroyer whilst lighting the big zippo.
Yes. As quoted by Gozer the Destroyer whilst lighting the big zippo.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at November 20, 2015 03:25 PM (UPYPp)
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But it is frankly just a large clique who makes a lot of snide and snarky remarks.
*shiftyeyes* Yes ... twitter ... indeed.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 03:19 PM
*snort*
*shiftyeyes* Yes ... twitter ... indeed.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 03:19 PM
*snort*
Posted by: OG Moron at November 20, 2015 03:25 PM (Yzoku)
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281 265:"You can hate everything he has done, but you have to accept that he won two elections"
To borrow from one of his infamous quotes: He didn't do that by himself.
Without a fully complicit media, he wouldn't have won his first primary.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at November 20, 2015 03:23 PM (UPYPp)
Without the corrupt Chicago machine he wouldn't even have been a senator in the Illinois legislature.
To borrow from one of his infamous quotes: He didn't do that by himself.
Without a fully complicit media, he wouldn't have won his first primary.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at November 20, 2015 03:23 PM (UPYPp)
Without the corrupt Chicago machine he wouldn't even have been a senator in the Illinois legislature.
Posted by: buzzion at November 20, 2015 03:25 PM (z/Ubi)
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Then why did Pierson say what she did? If Trump is just voicing support for the preexisting terrorist watchlist, then why not just say that?Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:18 PM (YjDyJ)
I suppose because Trump is a human being like the rest of us, went back to the hotel, got some sleep. His associate got blindsided.
We all realize you're an establishment gop type, but at a certain point you have to realize you're not among friendlies.
I suppose because Trump is a human being like the rest of us, went back to the hotel, got some sleep. His associate got blindsided.
We all realize you're an establishment gop type, but at a certain point you have to realize you're not among friendlies.
Posted by: se pa moron at November 20, 2015 03:25 PM (7v/r5)
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Trumped up charges....
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 20, 2015 03:25 PM (LA7Cm)
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"they think its thier personal mission to take Trump down. Its sort of amazing. Using the same tactics of the left "
They don't call it the Uniparty for nothing.
It should be obvious to all that it is Trump v.s. The Uniparty.
Stupid dumb lies won't change the support for Trump.
Rubio, ppfttt...he's a massive creep. Mr. Creep who lies to his tea party voters and then speak the truth in Spanish to his illegal voters. Creep!
Not to mention he's not even eligible for the office but then again a creep wouldn't care about the Constitution.
He does look exactly like Dondi though.
Go Trump!
They don't call it the Uniparty for nothing.
It should be obvious to all that it is Trump v.s. The Uniparty.
Stupid dumb lies won't change the support for Trump.
Rubio, ppfttt...he's a massive creep. Mr. Creep who lies to his tea party voters and then speak the truth in Spanish to his illegal voters. Creep!
Not to mention he's not even eligible for the office but then again a creep wouldn't care about the Constitution.
He does look exactly like Dondi though.
Go Trump!
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Trump's spokeswoman was asked about it this morning and this is what she said:
@moody 4h ago Trump campaign's @KatrinaPierson asked specifically about a Muslim registry on Fox Business: "Trump is not taking anything off the table."
So what does he actually believe?
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:00 PM (YjDyJ)
That's one reason I have trouble getting upset by the media's or Rubio's attacks on the guy. Sure, he might not believe the stuff they're saying he believes, but I have no reason to believe he supports anything I believe either.
He's just there...he's getting publicity for himself and is being the center of attention--which are the only things you can really be sure he cares about. The proper response is to grab some popcorn, sit back, and have fun watching the fights of his that you enjoy, but if you're getting worked up by any of it, you're doing it wrong.
@moody 4h ago Trump campaign's @KatrinaPierson asked specifically about a Muslim registry on Fox Business: "Trump is not taking anything off the table."
So what does he actually believe?
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:00 PM (YjDyJ)
That's one reason I have trouble getting upset by the media's or Rubio's attacks on the guy. Sure, he might not believe the stuff they're saying he believes, but I have no reason to believe he supports anything I believe either.
He's just there...he's getting publicity for himself and is being the center of attention--which are the only things you can really be sure he cares about. The proper response is to grab some popcorn, sit back, and have fun watching the fights of his that you enjoy, but if you're getting worked up by any of it, you're doing it wrong.
Posted by: AD at November 20, 2015 03:25 PM (TTEMv)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 20, 2015 03:26 PM (ODxAs)
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Just to ruin your weekend. The Fox poll guy, three of them, on that Sunday show, about a month ago all agreed we would get Romney after a dead locked convention.
SMOD where are you when we need you?
SMOD where are you when we need you?
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2015 03:26 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Moron with a one-track mind at November 20, 2015 03:26 PM (2WoCi)
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Clinton/Castro?
That will give a real bump in Hispanic turnout for the dems.
There is no possible comparative turnout bump for us.
Game over man, game over.
That will give a real bump in Hispanic turnout for the dems.
There is no possible comparative turnout bump for us.
Game over man, game over.
Posted by: wooga at November 20, 2015 03:26 PM (E5hoS)
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But the point stands- TFG *did* win 2 elections. You can hate everything he has done, but you have to accept that he won two elections.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at November 20, 2015 03:20 PM (kff5f)
Well of course he did, and confidence is useful - necessary - to anyone attempting anything. But it isn't everything you need other stuff. Like a grip on reality, an ability to change to meet changing circumstances. Stuff like that.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at November 20, 2015 03:20 PM (kff5f)
Well of course he did, and confidence is useful - necessary - to anyone attempting anything. But it isn't everything you need other stuff. Like a grip on reality, an ability to change to meet changing circumstances. Stuff like that.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Bury the Hatchet and Other Weapons at the Outrage Outlet! at November 20, 2015 03:26 PM (hLRSq)
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@234 First the joke. I had a yuppie boss who had everybody from "the shop" over to see his new expensive house that he couldn't afford but was riding the bubble.
White carpet right up to the edge of the airtight fireplace doors. And a whole-house fan with what must have been a 2-horse motor. And he turned them both on at once. I think that carpet was still salt-n-pepper when they moved out.
What those fireplaces need is outside combustion air. Install a fireproof vent in the firebox, with a remotely-controllable damper(can be a rod and handle, or even a wire or cable), going to the outside. That way heat is generated without using expensively-preheated interior air. It's something all wood burners want.
Even if they're brick or stone, this isn't too hard. And most such fireplaces now are made of sheet metal inserts inside a framed pocket; easier yet.
White carpet right up to the edge of the airtight fireplace doors. And a whole-house fan with what must have been a 2-horse motor. And he turned them both on at once. I think that carpet was still salt-n-pepper when they moved out.
What those fireplaces need is outside combustion air. Install a fireproof vent in the firebox, with a remotely-controllable damper(can be a rod and handle, or even a wire or cable), going to the outside. That way heat is generated without using expensively-preheated interior air. It's something all wood burners want.
Even if they're brick or stone, this isn't too hard. And most such fireplaces now are made of sheet metal inserts inside a framed pocket; easier yet.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (xq1UY)
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I think I know how to reply, but I still don't get the # shit.
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2015 03:23 PM (jJRIy)
# is for searching purposes.
So if a bunch of people say #suckdeeznuts, you can search #suckdeeznuts, and read all of their interesting, unique insight on nut sucking.
The point of which is to get a "hashtag" (the number sign) to "go viral" so the news anchor can say "now trending on twitter -- suck deez nuts. We brought in special nut sucking correspondent Anderson Cooper to explain."
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2015 03:23 PM (jJRIy)
# is for searching purposes.
So if a bunch of people say #suckdeeznuts, you can search #suckdeeznuts, and read all of their interesting, unique insight on nut sucking.
The point of which is to get a "hashtag" (the number sign) to "go viral" so the news anchor can say "now trending on twitter -- suck deez nuts. We brought in special nut sucking correspondent Anderson Cooper to explain."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (AkOaV)
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Marco Rubio is the little underclassman trying to get on your good side, so he can fuck your sister. He's promising liquor and his dad's season tickets if you'll put in a good word for him.
Posted by: Fritz at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (UzPAd)
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buzzion, we are speaking English which is a language known to lurk in dark alleys waiting to pounce upon another language, rummage in their pockets, and steal words to adapt.
Ergo sum bukkakeing
Ergo sum bukkakeing
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (qY51H)
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CA - whites are pretty much liberals there
CO - CA expats, environmental, but showing signs of moving redder
NV - owned entirely by the federal government and/or unions
VA - I'd say it is becoming bluer because more and more of its residents are employed by the federal government (directly or indirectly).
Posted by: SH at November 20, 2015 03:10 PM (gmeXX)
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Again, look at the data.
CO: Romney won whites 54 to 44
NV: Romney won whites 56 to 43
VA: Romney won whites 61 to 37
CA: Romney won whites 53 to 44
And yet he lost all of these states. Now why do you suppose that is?
CO - CA expats, environmental, but showing signs of moving redder
NV - owned entirely by the federal government and/or unions
VA - I'd say it is becoming bluer because more and more of its residents are employed by the federal government (directly or indirectly).
Posted by: SH at November 20, 2015 03:10 PM (gmeXX)
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Again, look at the data.
CO: Romney won whites 54 to 44
NV: Romney won whites 56 to 43
VA: Romney won whites 61 to 37
CA: Romney won whites 53 to 44
And yet he lost all of these states. Now why do you suppose that is?
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (0LHZx)
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Without the corrupt Chicago machine he wouldn't even have been a senator in the Illinois legislature.
Posted by: buzzion at November 20, 2015 03:25 PM (z/Ubi)
Yeah, and I wouldn't have been president. Get over it.
Posted by: buzzion at November 20, 2015 03:25 PM (z/Ubi)
Yeah, and I wouldn't have been president. Get over it.
Posted by: Zombie JFK at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (jJRIy)
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Really hoped with Jeb not being viable anymore we wouldn't have to listen to the "any criticism of trump is a nefarious plot by Jeb supporters" bullshit, but I see Rubio supporters are now the designated boogeymen unleashing their nefarious plots on the holy chosen one mere mortals know as The Donald.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (gcyc4)
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I think thinking requires, get this, thought. But increasingly, the name of the game is to get people stampeding towards a thought they never thought through.
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Why I'm suspicious of Carson's numbers. Its all based around Twitter and Facebook followers. Nobody shows up at his speeches.
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Why I'm suspicious of Carson's numbers. Its all based around Twitter and Facebook followers. Nobody shows up at his speeches.
Posted by: Bigby's Iron Fist at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (3ZtZW)
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Assuming my girl Carly continues to fade (I hope she doesn't but the trend looks irreversible), then I'llgo with Ted Cruz.
Watching Cruz use hissupervoodoo debating powersto psychically lobotomize Evil Drunken Grandma on live national television would be...delicious.
Watching Cruz use hissupervoodoo debating powersto psychically lobotomize Evil Drunken Grandma on live national television would be...delicious.
Posted by: troyriser at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (UWlp+)
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"Not sure why the idea isn't gaining traction"
Bukakke: It's all fun and games until you take a load in the eye.
Bukakke: It's all fun and games until you take a load in the eye.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (UPYPp)
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This is why so many of us wouldn't care if Trump won.
Wipe their faces in their own feces.
(of course I love Cruz, and he would do the same - even harder)
This is why so many of us wouldn't care if Trump won.
Wipe their faces in their own feces.
(of course I love Cruz, and he would do the same - even harder)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (qCMvj)
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I've been known to point out to Progressives that I have read their source materials, but they haven't read mine.*
*in truth, they mostly haven't read their's either.
*in truth, they mostly haven't read their's either.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 03:28 PM (evdj2)
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it's just so fucking stupid. It makes smart people stupid.
Its the source of the mob these days. Everyone piles on so fast and thoughtlessly into a crazed froth, then forgets it a few hours later. One minute its the most important thing on earth that you ignore the fact that your baby is on fire to type in that next 140 character zinger, then next you're posting pictures of flaming baby for laughs. Its simultaneously incredibly shallow and yet incredibly important to people.
I'm only on there because its helping my book sales. Its a business thing, which is why I should stop dipping into politics. I only do it in responses but still, smart Twitter users check the replies and retweets button before following.
Its the source of the mob these days. Everyone piles on so fast and thoughtlessly into a crazed froth, then forgets it a few hours later. One minute its the most important thing on earth that you ignore the fact that your baby is on fire to type in that next 140 character zinger, then next you're posting pictures of flaming baby for laughs. Its simultaneously incredibly shallow and yet incredibly important to people.
I'm only on there because its helping my book sales. Its a business thing, which is why I should stop dipping into politics. I only do it in responses but still, smart Twitter users check the replies and retweets button before following.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2015 03:28 PM (39g3+)
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what the other candidates have that Trump and Carson
do not is RECORDS. They are politicians, and their ideas are
dicernable from the record in office. Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:18 PM
And therein lies the problem for those "other candidates." Each and every one of them has stepped on his unit in the full glare of the spotlight. Cruz, Rubio, Heb!, Huckabee...you name him, he has done something that is, if not abysmally stupid, a clear indicator that he's not fit for the presidency. Unless, that is, you want another shrill political hack.
The only thing I can say about the GOPe wannabes is that their "records" do not i9nclude prison records, as Shrillery's and Crazy Uncle Bernie's should.
do not is RECORDS. They are politicians, and their ideas are
dicernable from the record in office. Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:18 PM
And therein lies the problem for those "other candidates." Each and every one of them has stepped on his unit in the full glare of the spotlight. Cruz, Rubio, Heb!, Huckabee...you name him, he has done something that is, if not abysmally stupid, a clear indicator that he's not fit for the presidency. Unless, that is, you want another shrill political hack.
The only thing I can say about the GOPe wannabes is that their "records" do not i9nclude prison records, as Shrillery's and Crazy Uncle Bernie's should.
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 20, 2015 03:28 PM (dbC6X)
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Assuming my girl Carly continues to fade (I hope she doesn't but the trend looks irreversible), then I'llgo with Ted Cruz. /i]
Sad about this too. Carly is astounding in every interview.
Sad about this too. Carly is astounding in every interview.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2015 03:28 PM (qCMvj)
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Well of course he did, and confidence is useful - necessary - to anyone attempting anything. But it isn't everything you need other stuff. Like a grip on reality, an ability to change to meet changing circumstances. Stuff like that.
Oh, I agree. I was simply defending the original premise- that the one who looks more confident tends to win elections. They may well be a total disaster afterward, but as far as getting elected goes? At the minimum one of several necessary traits. Possibly the single most important one.
Oh, I agree. I was simply defending the original premise- that the one who looks more confident tends to win elections. They may well be a total disaster afterward, but as far as getting elected goes? At the minimum one of several necessary traits. Possibly the single most important one.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at November 20, 2015 03:28 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2015 03:28 PM (qCMvj)
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267 Talk show in OKC covered this. Conclusion? Even if the original story was correct, most people here would agree with it. So it wouldn't hurt Trump in OK.
Posted by: Soona at November 20, 2015 03:20 PM (Fmupd)
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Absolutely correct. Trump will likely take all 77 OK counties in the primary and if not then certainly in the general.........no matter what he says here on out as long as he doesn't flip-flop on immigration.
Posted by: Soona at November 20, 2015 03:20 PM (Fmupd)
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Absolutely correct. Trump will likely take all 77 OK counties in the primary and if not then certainly in the general.........no matter what he says here on out as long as he doesn't flip-flop on immigration.
Posted by: Stay out da bushes at November 20, 2015 03:28 PM (yioUz)
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Look, I'm sorry fellas, but Marco Rubio is absolutely unacceptable to me. Absolutely unacceptable.
You know, some of these Team Marco people are eerily similar to the Obama cultists. Their go to response to this comment? This:
"You will vote for Marco. And you will enjoy it. You'll probably even do a little dance."
Hahaha no, fucktard, I won't. Your dementia might keep you warm at night, but it's not convincing anyone of anything except for the fact that you need stronger meds.
You know, some of these Team Marco people are eerily similar to the Obama cultists. Their go to response to this comment? This:
"You will vote for Marco. And you will enjoy it. You'll probably even do a little dance."
Hahaha no, fucktard, I won't. Your dementia might keep you warm at night, but it's not convincing anyone of anything except for the fact that you need stronger meds.
Posted by: physics geek at November 20, 2015 03:29 PM (MT22W)
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Without the corrupt Chicago machine he wouldn't even have been a senator in the Illinois legislature.
Posted by: buzzion at November 20, 2015 03:25 PM (z/Ubi)
Shit buzzion, you should move to Chicago. They still let dead people vote.
Often.
Without the corrupt Chicago machine he wouldn't even have been a senator in the Illinois legislature.
Posted by: buzzion at November 20, 2015 03:25 PM (z/Ubi)
Shit buzzion, you should move to Chicago. They still let dead people vote.
Often.
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2015 03:29 PM (jJRIy)
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bukkakeing
that cannot be the proper spelling for that
Posted by: buzzion at November 20, 2015 03:23 PM (z/Ubi)
I tried a few derivatives, but believe it or not spell check does not recognize the work bukakke, or any modification thereof.
that cannot be the proper spelling for that
Posted by: buzzion at November 20, 2015 03:23 PM (z/Ubi)
I tried a few derivatives, but believe it or not spell check does not recognize the work bukakke, or any modification thereof.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:29 PM (AkOaV)
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241 But there does seem to be some truth that people get more conservative over time.
Its true, most people do. Almost everyone is a lot more leftist in youth than they are older, simply because reality beats it out of you. All those pie in the sky childish happy clappy crap ideas get discarded as you learn how the real world works like getting your first paycheck and seeing how much the government takes, or trying to raise your kids. But its not universal, and some people never grow up, intellectually and morally, at least.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2015 03:15 PM (39g3+)
When you're young, and had everything given to you all your life, you think life is about being given things. When you're starting out and don't have a lot, you think sharing is a great idea.
When you've had to work for decades to try to scrape together what little you have, you understand that building and earning are more important than being given something; and you're less apt to support sharing your stuff with a bunch of freeloaders.
Its true, most people do. Almost everyone is a lot more leftist in youth than they are older, simply because reality beats it out of you. All those pie in the sky childish happy clappy crap ideas get discarded as you learn how the real world works like getting your first paycheck and seeing how much the government takes, or trying to raise your kids. But its not universal, and some people never grow up, intellectually and morally, at least.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2015 03:15 PM (39g3+)
When you're young, and had everything given to you all your life, you think life is about being given things. When you're starting out and don't have a lot, you think sharing is a great idea.
When you've had to work for decades to try to scrape together what little you have, you understand that building and earning are more important than being given something; and you're less apt to support sharing your stuff with a bunch of freeloaders.
Posted by: cthulhu at November 20, 2015 03:29 PM (EzgxV)
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Sometimes I think OK Rubio is a threat because he is the establishment's second choice after that dick jeb, but then I think, Yeah ok but where are his supporters coming from? Not Trumps, Not Carsons, Not Cruzs....so where ...this is a pissed off Republican primary crowd...so the MSM and the Establishment might like Rubio...but where are the voters? At this point i don't see them
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2015 03:29 PM (DUoqb)
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and i'm mentioning that because of those who say I am whoring with twitter.
sorry, sometimes i see this nonsense brewing on the RIGHT and since i'm not on their stupid journolist listservs this is my only chance to stop their herd stampeding.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 02:49 PM (dciA+)
hehe
well, we are watching the porn live, then
sorry, sometimes i see this nonsense brewing on the RIGHT and since i'm not on their stupid journolist listservs this is my only chance to stop their herd stampeding.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 02:49 PM (dciA+)
hehe
well, we are watching the porn live, then
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2015 03:30 PM (qCMvj)
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Tags are for closers.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 03:30 PM (evdj2)
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Bukakke: It's all fun and games until you take a load in the eye.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (UPYPp)
something I would never have know save for the internets.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (UPYPp)
something I would never have know save for the internets.
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 20, 2015 03:30 PM (vb33c)
Posted by: Brian at November 20, 2015 03:31 PM (Hd5n8)
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Assuming my girl Carly continues to fade (I hope she doesn't but the trend looks irreversible), then I'llgo with Ted Cruz. /i]
Sad about this too. Carly is astounding in every interview.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2015 03:28 PM (qCMvj)
I agree. She suffers from MSM not wanting another woman in the race.
Assuming my girl Carly continues to fade (I hope she doesn't but the trend looks irreversible), then I'llgo with Ted Cruz. /i]
Sad about this too. Carly is astounding in every interview.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2015 03:28 PM (qCMvj)
I agree. She suffers from MSM not wanting another woman in the race.
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 20, 2015 03:31 PM (jJRIy)
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eh, I still get very self-righteous when I see stupidity, particularly of the herd-mind "let's make this viral" sort.
so in a way I take a vain (juvenile) satisfaction in it.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 03:15 PM (dciA+)
plus, the target is right in front of you
they either read it or block you
so in a way I take a vain (juvenile) satisfaction in it.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 03:15 PM (dciA+)
plus, the target is right in front of you
they either read it or block you
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2015 03:31 PM (qCMvj)
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We brought in special nut sucking correspondent Anderson Cooper to explain."
Very concise and informative.
the demo ALWAYS say Rubio is not the Republican Obama, he is the Republican John Edwards
Makes sense, he's a handsome empty lightweight.
Very concise and informative.
the demo ALWAYS say Rubio is not the Republican Obama, he is the Republican John Edwards
Makes sense, he's a handsome empty lightweight.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2015 03:32 PM (39g3+)
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Any ideas? Do they make chimney fans to make a draft?
Get some good fire insurance. That place is going to burn down.
Get some good fire insurance. That place is going to burn down.
Posted by: wooga at November 20, 2015 03:32 PM (E5hoS)
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What is the evidence this came from Rubio supporters? Aren't you doing exactly the same thing to Rubio by saying that with no actual proof? Aren't you blaming Marco for what someone else said?
I heard it about Trump from liberal sources first. From Hillary first. Yet you go after our side, not her. Again.
I like Rubio, just fine, I think you all took a side against him over amnesty that was emotional and not based in facts. Now you will quote all his supposed sins and betrayals.... so what. Not one candidate is pure on the subject of immigration and that includes Trump. The paint on his current stand is not even dry yet. He has taken plenty of bad positions on immigration in the past.
I will support whoever wins, and that seems to be Trump right now, I'm not a fan of making charges against any of our candidates without proof, and charges against supporters, reflect on a candidate therefore it damages our chances against Hillary.
Hillary is the one we must beat. It would do us all a favor to keep the level of disagreement civil and about issues, although, it is very hard to do that when there is actually not much difference on issues. Regardless of how often you try to spin that there is.
The difference between Marco and Donald on any issue, even immigration is so minimal as to be a farce watching the sides go after each other over it.
The open borders people are on the left. You can parse everyone's words... including Trump who criticized Romney for being too harsh on amnesty in 2012... this ridiculous tribalism base on personality is self-defeating.
I heard it about Trump from liberal sources first. From Hillary first. Yet you go after our side, not her. Again.
I like Rubio, just fine, I think you all took a side against him over amnesty that was emotional and not based in facts. Now you will quote all his supposed sins and betrayals.... so what. Not one candidate is pure on the subject of immigration and that includes Trump. The paint on his current stand is not even dry yet. He has taken plenty of bad positions on immigration in the past.
I will support whoever wins, and that seems to be Trump right now, I'm not a fan of making charges against any of our candidates without proof, and charges against supporters, reflect on a candidate therefore it damages our chances against Hillary.
Hillary is the one we must beat. It would do us all a favor to keep the level of disagreement civil and about issues, although, it is very hard to do that when there is actually not much difference on issues. Regardless of how often you try to spin that there is.
The difference between Marco and Donald on any issue, even immigration is so minimal as to be a farce watching the sides go after each other over it.
The open borders people are on the left. You can parse everyone's words... including Trump who criticized Romney for being too harsh on amnesty in 2012... this ridiculous tribalism base on personality is self-defeating.
Posted by: petunia at November 20, 2015 03:32 PM (VoCyE)
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and i'm mentioning that because of those who say I am whoring with twitter.
sorry, sometimes i see this nonsense brewing on the RIGHT and since i'm not on their stupid journolist listservs this is my only chance to stop their herd stampeding.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 02:49 PM (dciA+)
well whether or not you are getting paid you are great at it.
gpa always said if you're gonna be a whore be the best whore.
sorry, sometimes i see this nonsense brewing on the RIGHT and since i'm not on their stupid journolist listservs this is my only chance to stop their herd stampeding.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 02:49 PM (dciA+)
well whether or not you are getting paid you are great at it.
gpa always said if you're gonna be a whore be the best whore.
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 20, 2015 03:32 PM (vb33c)
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ONLY 27 dead in Mali....wonder what database they will end up on?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2015 03:32 PM (DUoqb)
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VA: Romney won whites 61 to 37
And yet he lost all of these states. Now why do you suppose that is?
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (0LHZx)
White males or whites in general?
Either way, that's an astounding number.
And yet he lost all of these states. Now why do you suppose that is?
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (0LHZx)
White males or whites in general?
Either way, that's an astounding number.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:32 PM (AkOaV)
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I'm going on vacation next week so I'm trying to do absolutely no work today, lest I break something.
I have official sanction to stick it to the man.
I have official sanction to stick it to the man.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 03:32 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Marco Rubio at November 20, 2015 03:33 PM (0cMkb)
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I agree. She suffers from MSM not wanting another woman in the race.
Completely. When she started to get coverage and notice by the press, her numbers shot up like a DNA sample on Ace's feed. So they freaked out and just shut her off. No mentions. No quotes. No pictures. No references. Its like she ceased to exist.
Completely. When she started to get coverage and notice by the press, her numbers shot up like a DNA sample on Ace's feed. So they freaked out and just shut her off. No mentions. No quotes. No pictures. No references. Its like she ceased to exist.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2015 03:33 PM (39g3+)
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Bukakke: It's all fun and games until you take a load in the eye.
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O hey, interviewed a girl what got infected that way. Still hasn't got treated becoz retarded, but whatever
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O hey, interviewed a girl what got infected that way. Still hasn't got treated becoz retarded, but whatever
Posted by: Bigby's Iron Fist at November 20, 2015 03:33 PM (3ZtZW)
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face it, obama won because he was black and the media went out of their way to protect him (and still do) and black turnout surged. Hillary will not be so fortunate in the latter part. and women really don't like her.
Nevertheless, the gop will offer up a sacrificial lamb or quite not-actively support Trump if he is nominee.
face it, obama won because he was black and the media went out of their way to protect him (and still do) and black turnout surged. Hillary will not be so fortunate in the latter part. and women really don't like her.
Nevertheless, the gop will offer up a sacrificial lamb or quite not-actively support Trump if he is nominee.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 20, 2015 03:33 PM (ODxAs)
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I think you all took a side against him over amnesty that was emotional and not based in facts.
?????
emotional and not based on fact? He was for amnesty?
?????
emotional and not based on fact? He was for amnesty?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2015 03:33 PM (DUoqb)
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Assuming my girl Carly continues to fade (I hope she doesn't but the trend looks irreversible), then I'llgo with Ted Cruz. /i]
Sad about this too. Carly is astounding in every interview.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2015 03:28 PM (qCMvj)
why are you bringing her fading looks into this?
Assuming my girl Carly continues to fade (I hope she doesn't but the trend looks irreversible), then I'llgo with Ted Cruz. /i]
Sad about this too. Carly is astounding in every interview.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2015 03:28 PM (qCMvj)
why are you bringing her fading looks into this?
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 20, 2015 03:33 PM (vb33c)
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329 241 But there does seem to be some truth that people get more conservative over time.
Its true, most people do. Almost everyone is a lot more leftist in youth than they are older, simply because reality beats it out of you. All those pie in the sky childish happy clappy crap ideas get discarded as you learn how the real world works like getting your first paycheck and seeing how much the government takes, or trying to raise your kids. But its not universal, and some people never grow up, intellectually and morally, at least.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2015 03:15 PM (39g3+)
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Empirical data doesn't agree.
Young people who voted for FDR 4 times, continued to vote Democrat as they aged. Young people who voted for Reagan twice continued to vote Republican. as they aged.
And so forth.
Its true, most people do. Almost everyone is a lot more leftist in youth than they are older, simply because reality beats it out of you. All those pie in the sky childish happy clappy crap ideas get discarded as you learn how the real world works like getting your first paycheck and seeing how much the government takes, or trying to raise your kids. But its not universal, and some people never grow up, intellectually and morally, at least.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2015 03:15 PM (39g3+)
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Empirical data doesn't agree.
Young people who voted for FDR 4 times, continued to vote Democrat as they aged. Young people who voted for Reagan twice continued to vote Republican. as they aged.
And so forth.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:33 PM (0LHZx)
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Posted by: petunia at November 20, 2015 03:32 PM (VoCyE)
Why is beating Hillary by any means possible so important to you?
Does it have to do with your tribal identification as a "republican"?
Why is beating Hillary by any means possible so important to you?
Does it have to do with your tribal identification as a "republican"?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:34 PM (AkOaV)
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i mean, I don't know, man, there was such a freak-out that WE HAVE NO HOUSE LEADER and REPUBLICANS ARE IN DISARRAY and GOD-DAMN LOUIE GOHMERT FOR MESSING THIS UP.
I don't understand why people wish to make themselves into jumpy, shrieky wrecks.
and again it's the medium of twitter -- for some reason, people who might otherwise be somewhat coherent just feel that twitter is a good place to have a technology-caused nervous breakdown in public.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 03:18 PM (dciA+)
lol, just cruising through your comments, Ace
I get more calm watching Twitch.tv .
I don't understand why people wish to make themselves into jumpy, shrieky wrecks.
and again it's the medium of twitter -- for some reason, people who might otherwise be somewhat coherent just feel that twitter is a good place to have a technology-caused nervous breakdown in public.
Posted by: ace at November 20, 2015 03:18 PM (dciA+)
lol, just cruising through your comments, Ace
I get more calm watching Twitch.tv .
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2015 03:34 PM (qCMvj)
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So which of the candidates, or any politician for that matter, would you enjoy saying - "They have a face made for bukkake."
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2015 03:34 PM (qY51H)
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion who longs for the web circa 1997 at November 20, 2015 03:34 PM (k9qR4)
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"Clinton/Castro?
That will give a real bump in Hispanic turnout for the dems.
There is no possible comparative turnout bump for us.
Game over man, game over. "
This is the Uniparty's fake argument. What you need are the millions of white voters that have sat out elections for years....nobody represents them.
I predict Trump will have a landslide victory.
That will give a real bump in Hispanic turnout for the dems.
There is no possible comparative turnout bump for us.
Game over man, game over. "
This is the Uniparty's fake argument. What you need are the millions of white voters that have sat out elections for years....nobody represents them.
I predict Trump will have a landslide victory.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at November 20, 2015 03:34 PM (C+Q5F)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 03:34 PM (evdj2)
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the people who support Marco Rubio and who do not quite wish to make this plain,
Most of Rubio's supporters don't speak English ... and live in Central and South America, until they can sneak across our border.
Most of Rubio's supporters don't speak English ... and live in Central and South America, until they can sneak across our border.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 20, 2015 03:34 PM (zc3Db)
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Two of several things I like about Trump:
-by regularly saying he'll have to think about, or consider things heretofore taboo, he opens that Overton window for the rest of us; and
-he's telling the jihadis he is one crazy SOB who will do what the Other Girly Men of Washington will not. IYKWIM
All good!
-by regularly saying he'll have to think about, or consider things heretofore taboo, he opens that Overton window for the rest of us; and
-he's telling the jihadis he is one crazy SOB who will do what the Other Girly Men of Washington will not. IYKWIM
All good!
Posted by: some dope at November 20, 2015 03:34 PM (yvwr7)
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Because everyone is being dishonest, and everyone knows it and yet everyone likes to pretend they're on the "inside" and theyre just duping OTHERS, and that they're not the ones being duped.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 02:32 PM (AkOaV)
What I'm sick of is the virtue signaling. "Of course, I'm for letting refugees in because I'm not bigoted and cruel and a big scaredy cat like you Rethugs!"
And if you tell them they are doing nothing but moral preening, they become infuriated and before you know it, it's a shouting match.
So I just nod and make a mental note to serve as a memory aide when the day comes when a poor little refugee kills a bunch of people in NYC or DC or LA.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 02:32 PM (AkOaV)
What I'm sick of is the virtue signaling. "Of course, I'm for letting refugees in because I'm not bigoted and cruel and a big scaredy cat like you Rethugs!"
And if you tell them they are doing nothing but moral preening, they become infuriated and before you know it, it's a shouting match.
So I just nod and make a mental note to serve as a memory aide when the day comes when a poor little refugee kills a bunch of people in NYC or DC or LA.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at November 20, 2015 03:34 PM (u0lmX)
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Posted by: All Teh Meh at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (gcyc4)
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Trump has the GOPe
Dr. Venture has the Monarch
Heinz Doofenshmirz has Perry the Platypus
It is the Law of the Universe.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Trump has the GOPe
Dr. Venture has the Monarch
Heinz Doofenshmirz has Perry the Platypus
It is the Law of the Universe.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Bury the Hatchet and Other Weapons at the Outrage Outlet! at November 20, 2015 03:35 PM (hLRSq)
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346:"O hey, interviewed a girl what got infected that way. Still hasn't got treated becoz retarded, but whatever"
I'm sure some Green Gargle Juice (TM) will take care of it.
I'm sure some Green Gargle Juice (TM) will take care of it.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at November 20, 2015 03:35 PM (UPYPp)
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Everyone needs a nemesis.
Trump has the GOPe
Dr. Venture has the Monarch
Heinz Doofenshmirz has Perry the Platypus
It is the Law of the Universe.
-------
Moo has the Horde.
I kid, I kid.
Trump has the GOPe
Dr. Venture has the Monarch
Heinz Doofenshmirz has Perry the Platypus
It is the Law of the Universe.
-------
Moo has the Horde.
I kid, I kid.
Posted by: SH at November 20, 2015 03:36 PM (gmeXX)
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"Hillary needs a Biden, someone so awful that people argue not to take
her down simply because they would be next in office. Someone just
absolutely unthinkable for the presidency like Sheila Jackson-Lee."
But I'd actually prefer to have SJL in the Oval Office than Canquelles.
her down simply because they would be next in office. Someone just
absolutely unthinkable for the presidency like Sheila Jackson-Lee."
But I'd actually prefer to have SJL in the Oval Office than Canquelles.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 20, 2015 03:36 PM (noWW6)
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254 Mr Rubio is vague as shit on immigration
I know what his stance is right now. Whether he truly believes what he is saying or changed for political convenience is for each individual voter to decide.
what the other candidates have that Trump and Carson do not is RECORDS. They are politicians, and their ideas are dicernable from the record in office
But we do have their records with regards to donations and previous political stances. For example, I can look at Trump's past donations and see that he donated a great deal of money to the same Democrats which he now claims to oppose. I also know that he has voiced support for single payer, eminent domain, and more government programs for college students, among other things.
I know what his stance is right now. Whether he truly believes what he is saying or changed for political convenience is for each individual voter to decide.
what the other candidates have that Trump and Carson do not is RECORDS. They are politicians, and their ideas are dicernable from the record in office
But we do have their records with regards to donations and previous political stances. For example, I can look at Trump's past donations and see that he donated a great deal of money to the same Democrats which he now claims to oppose. I also know that he has voiced support for single payer, eminent domain, and more government programs for college students, among other things.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:36 PM (YjDyJ)
365
I think some people are more comfortable with the establishment parties preference and do not seem to understand there is a revolt underway
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:36 PM (zOTsN)
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Even if they're brick or stone, this isn't too hard. And most such fireplaces now are made of sheet metal inserts inside a framed pocket; easier yet. Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (xq1UY)
I have a fan on my lower level that brings outside air in. It in effect forces the house to be high pressure, the chimney to outside low pressure. I run it for about ten minutes before starting a fire.
Most homes are set up just the opposite, kitchen and bathroom fans push inside air outside, which is worst scenario for getting smoke and exhaust outside.
I have a fan on my lower level that brings outside air in. It in effect forces the house to be high pressure, the chimney to outside low pressure. I run it for about ten minutes before starting a fire.
Most homes are set up just the opposite, kitchen and bathroom fans push inside air outside, which is worst scenario for getting smoke and exhaust outside.
Posted by: se pa moron at November 20, 2015 03:36 PM (7v/r5)
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342 VA: Romney won whites 61 to 37
And yet he lost all of these states. Now why do you suppose that is?
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (0LHZx)
White males or whites in general?
Either way, that's an astounding number.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:32 PM (AkOaV)
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Whites overall. He won white men 64% to 34%. And even so he lost the state. It is astounding and proves that it's going to be virtually impossible to win these states in the future for a Republican. There's no way a Republican is winning 75% of the white vote which is about what it would take if minor ties keep voting essentially straight "D"
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/VA/president/
And yet he lost all of these states. Now why do you suppose that is?
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (0LHZx)
White males or whites in general?
Either way, that's an astounding number.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:32 PM (AkOaV)
_________
Whites overall. He won white men 64% to 34%. And even so he lost the state. It is astounding and proves that it's going to be virtually impossible to win these states in the future for a Republican. There's no way a Republican is winning 75% of the white vote which is about what it would take if minor ties keep voting essentially straight "D"
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/VA/president/
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:36 PM (0LHZx)
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I tried a few derivatives, but believe it or not spell check does not recognize the work bukakke, or any modification thereof.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:29 PM
And if one finally clicks "Add to Dictionary" it gives one pause.
Some, anyway.
There are databases for that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:29 PM
And if one finally clicks "Add to Dictionary" it gives one pause.
Some, anyway.
There are databases for that.
Posted by: What? at November 20, 2015 03:36 PM (Irz9D)
369
OT: Today's is Sheriff Joe Biden's 73rd birthday. Anyone wishing to celebrate should eat some paste, sniff some glue, and horrify your neighbors with a nude ballet routine in your pool.
Posted by: Cheri at November 20, 2015 03:36 PM (oiNtH)
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"-he's telling the jihadis he is one crazy SOB who will do what the Other Girly Men of Washington will not. IYKWIM "
Heh.
Heh.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at November 20, 2015 03:37 PM (LA7Cm)
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"Clinton/Castro?
That will give a real bump in Hispanic turnout for the dems.
I think the VP used to matter in elections but I'm not convinced it makes the slightest difference any longer. Candidate Barack Hussein Obama picked the worst possible person for his VP in human history and it didn't make a lick of difference.
That will give a real bump in Hispanic turnout for the dems.
I think the VP used to matter in elections but I'm not convinced it makes the slightest difference any longer. Candidate Barack Hussein Obama picked the worst possible person for his VP in human history and it didn't make a lick of difference.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 20, 2015 03:37 PM (39g3+)
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For example, I can look at Trump's past donations and see that he donated a great deal of money to the same Democrats which he now claims to oppose.
I cut him some slack on that. Those Democrats run the cities he makes his lucre in.
I cut him some slack on that. Those Democrats run the cities he makes his lucre in.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 03:37 PM (evdj2)
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Dentist traded root canals for meth, peddled child porn and was into bestiality: feds
I swear on a stack of Bibles that is not me and he is in NY anyway.
I swear on a stack of Bibles that is not me and he is in NY anyway.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2015 03:37 PM (DUoqb)
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I have a friend with a new town house that is so tightly built that when she turns on both her fireplaces there is not enough up draft for them.
Any ideas? Do they make chimney fans to make a draft?
------------
Crack a window
Any ideas? Do they make chimney fans to make a draft?
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Crack a window
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at November 20, 2015 03:38 PM (kXzR8)
375
Chris Wallace comes on my StarShip and says we should pause the refugee influx? Oh hell no bitch! (But please don't send any to Fire Island)
Posted by: Sheperd Smith at November 20, 2015 03:38 PM (LYCUN)
376
This is the Uniparty's fake argument. What you need are the millions of white voters that have sat out elections for years....nobody represents them.
I predict Trump will have a landslide victory.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at November 20, 2015 03:34 PM (C+Q5F)
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Where the fuck are all these supposed white voters who sat out elections? There is ZERO empirical evidence that they exist. Yet the myth keeps going that Romney somehow alienated millions and millions of white voters who sat home. It's bullshit.
I predict Trump will have a landslide victory.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at November 20, 2015 03:34 PM (C+Q5F)
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Where the fuck are all these supposed white voters who sat out elections? There is ZERO empirical evidence that they exist. Yet the myth keeps going that Romney somehow alienated millions and millions of white voters who sat home. It's bullshit.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:38 PM (0LHZx)
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Immigration is every thing. Once 20-30M illegals become legal - and voters - nothing else will matter since it will all be over. You think the 20M new citizens from Mexico give a fuck about your gun rights? You think they want to embrace free market solutions for health care? You think they want a lower capital gains tax? Answer those questions and you'll understand why immigration isn't THE issue, it's the ONLY issue that matters.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 02:43 PM (0LHZx)
******
Replying an hour late to this, but.....
I suppose how one feels about this depends upon your level of cynicism.
I'm a positive person in general, in my life.
I'm also deeply, deeply cynical about politics and culture.
I agree, the demographic shift is going to likely tectonic shifts in our voting majorities, thanks to the latin vote.
I'm of the opinion, though, that we're approaching the problem already several DECADES too late. The genie is well and truly out of the bottle and won't be put back in.
I suppose if you don't think otherwise, one would support Trump, with his alleged intent to deport millions. I have absolutely zero faith that he'd even TRY to uphold that promise, let alone accomplish it.
All this said, I'll be voting for whomever the Republican nominee is. Well, unless it's somehow Kasich.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 02:43 PM (0LHZx)
******
Replying an hour late to this, but.....
I suppose how one feels about this depends upon your level of cynicism.
I'm a positive person in general, in my life.
I'm also deeply, deeply cynical about politics and culture.
I agree, the demographic shift is going to likely tectonic shifts in our voting majorities, thanks to the latin vote.
I'm of the opinion, though, that we're approaching the problem already several DECADES too late. The genie is well and truly out of the bottle and won't be put back in.
I suppose if you don't think otherwise, one would support Trump, with his alleged intent to deport millions. I have absolutely zero faith that he'd even TRY to uphold that promise, let alone accomplish it.
All this said, I'll be voting for whomever the Republican nominee is. Well, unless it's somehow Kasich.
Posted by: Vyce at November 20, 2015 03:38 PM (Xylma)
378
172
Kaisch says that he is going to take down Trump.
They must have promised him seventy-two virgins. That is not going to work out. My wife demanded I change the channel during the last debate every time Kasich and his scrunchy pinched face and hectoring preaching came on. "Ugh, change the channel, ugh!" She does not usually react so viscerally to a middle-aged man.
Kaisch says that he is going to take down Trump.
They must have promised him seventy-two virgins. That is not going to work out. My wife demanded I change the channel during the last debate every time Kasich and his scrunchy pinched face and hectoring preaching came on. "Ugh, change the channel, ugh!" She does not usually react so viscerally to a middle-aged man.
Posted by: Lester at November 20, 2015 03:38 PM (2UPXV)
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When someone asks you if you would consider a certain policy and you respond by saying that we need to consider all sorts of things, that means yes, you're willing to consider it (and more).
The sad reality is that if a reporter had asked Trump, "Are you willing to shoot all Muslims on site?," and he gave his usual buffoonish response of, "Well, we're going to have to look at a lot of new things...," then most of you would be on here today blaming the reporter for "putting words in Trump's mouth."
Trump is an imbecile. Obama's "Let me be clear..." sleep-inducing platitudes are positively Shakespearean by comparison.
The sad reality is that if a reporter had asked Trump, "Are you willing to shoot all Muslims on site?," and he gave his usual buffoonish response of, "Well, we're going to have to look at a lot of new things...," then most of you would be on here today blaming the reporter for "putting words in Trump's mouth."
Trump is an imbecile. Obama's "Let me be clear..." sleep-inducing platitudes are positively Shakespearean by comparison.
Posted by: Beef Supreme at November 20, 2015 03:39 PM (c8V4N)
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Meth-addict dentist? no thanks
Posted by: Bigby's Iron Fist at November 20, 2015 03:39 PM (3ZtZW)
381
I also know that he has voiced support for single payer, eminent domain, and more government programs for college students, among other things.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby
no one, not one candidate, no matter what they say, is going to be able to get rid of Obamacare. it will morph into single payer
and as for all the rest
the one issue i think is paramount, above all others, and determinative of all others, is immigration
the republican party does not care
they are no different from the dems on that issue, the one issue that determines all the others
and thats why I could never vote for Rubio. I will not vote for someone who will destroy my country that way
Posted by: Miss80sBaby
no one, not one candidate, no matter what they say, is going to be able to get rid of Obamacare. it will morph into single payer
and as for all the rest
the one issue i think is paramount, above all others, and determinative of all others, is immigration
the republican party does not care
they are no different from the dems on that issue, the one issue that determines all the others
and thats why I could never vote for Rubio. I will not vote for someone who will destroy my country that way
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:39 PM (zOTsN)
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I predict Trump will have a landslide victory.Posted by: Misfortune Pestilence at November 20, 2015 03:34 PM (C+Q5F)
Hope you're right--whoever wins the GOP nomination. Anything less than a landslide in the general election and we lose. You honestly think the the far-Left elites currently in charge of the Democratic Party and the mainstream media will give up power as the result of free and fair elections?
If it's close, we lose. Always.
Hope you're right--whoever wins the GOP nomination. Anything less than a landslide in the general election and we lose. You honestly think the the far-Left elites currently in charge of the Democratic Party and the mainstream media will give up power as the result of free and fair elections?
If it's close, we lose. Always.
Posted by: troyriser at November 20, 2015 03:39 PM (UWlp+)
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>>>So which of the candidates, or any politician for that matter, would you enjoy saying - "They have a face made for bukkake."<<<
Nancy Pelosi is the poster girl for bukkake. She's like Jennifer Beals in Flashdance when the tapioca is being expressed en masse.
Nancy Pelosi is the poster girl for bukkake. She's like Jennifer Beals in Flashdance when the tapioca is being expressed en masse.
Posted by: Fritz at November 20, 2015 03:39 PM (UzPAd)
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I have a friend with a new town house that is so tightly built that when she turns on both her fireplaces there is not enough up draft for them.
_________
Nice. I wish I had that problem. I have the opposite, windows and doors that leak air like nobody's bidness.
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Nice. I wish I had that problem. I have the opposite, windows and doors that leak air like nobody's bidness.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:39 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at November 20, 2015 03:39 PM (UPYPp)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 03:40 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 20, 2015 03:40 PM (vb33c)
388
nood, pood.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:40 PM (AkOaV)
389
huh, pixy will not let me post the kanji huh
Try sticking it here first: http://www.unicodetools.com/unicode/convert-to-html.php
Try sticking it here first: http://www.unicodetools.com/unicode/convert-to-html.php
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 03:41 PM (evdj2)
390
I'm on a new roll, and expect my numbers to far exceed Trump's shortly, and I will move into my rightful position as the front runner for the ultimate win.
I'm on a new roll, and expect my numbers to far exceed Trump's shortly, and I will move into my rightful position as the front runner for the ultimate win.
Posted by: JEB at November 20, 2015 03:41 PM (OiFtZ)
391
I just love people who come here and say their Republicans and then tell us because of demographics we have no chance of winning ever again?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2015 03:41 PM (DUoqb)
392
So which of the candidates, or any politician for that matter, would you enjoy saying - "They have a face made for bukkake."
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2015 03:34 PM (qY51H)
Well, based on it's nearly miraculous moistureizing and healing benefits, one would think that only one wrinkly old candidate would really need it.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2015 03:34 PM (qY51H)
Well, based on it's nearly miraculous moistureizing and healing benefits, one would think that only one wrinkly old candidate would really need it.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion who longs for the web circa 1997 at November 20, 2015 03:41 PM (k9qR4)
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379:"Trump is an imbecile. Obama's "Let me be clear..." sleep-inducing platitudes are positively Shakespearean by comparison.'
So?
So?
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at November 20, 2015 03:41 PM (UPYPp)
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Nice. I wish I had that problem. I have the opposite, windows and doors that leak air like nobody's bidness.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:39 PM (0LHZx)
That's fairly easy to fix. New windows and doors.
And this time make sure you insulate around the window and door frames before you trim them out.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:39 PM (0LHZx)
That's fairly easy to fix. New windows and doors.
And this time make sure you insulate around the window and door frames before you trim them out.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:41 PM (AkOaV)
395
"342 VA: Romney won whites 61 to 37
And yet he lost all of these states. Now why do you suppose that is?"
NoVA has a ton of Asians. I hate to say it, but the vast majority have bought into the Dem/Media BS that Republicans are only for racist white people. Plus, the illegals all vote in VA and we know who they vote for.
And yet he lost all of these states. Now why do you suppose that is?"
NoVA has a ton of Asians. I hate to say it, but the vast majority have bought into the Dem/Media BS that Republicans are only for racist white people. Plus, the illegals all vote in VA and we know who they vote for.
Posted by: Benji Carver at November 20, 2015 03:41 PM (OD2ni)
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interestingly, google translate will also pronounce bukkake for you
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 20, 2015 03:42 PM (vb33c)
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"36
I parked next to a car with a Carson bumper sticker on it yesterday. I don't understand Carson support either.
Posted by: Carol at November 20, 2015 02:37 PM (sj3Ax)"
Carson seems like a nice man and he is certainly accomplished way more in his life than Barack Obama, even after almost two terms as President. People hope that Carson could undo the racial divisions that Obama encouraged and exploited for votes. To be honest, I wish that he could but in my opinion, Dr.Carson's extraordinary skills don't seem to translate into the skills needed to act as the chief executive of the United States.
I thought, and still think, that Bobby Jindal had the skills, personality and will to pull the United States back from the brink, but pretty obviously, not enough other people thought the same thing.
People who are enthusiastic for Carson do not think that America is as far gone as I do. I hope that they are right and that I am wrong.
I parked next to a car with a Carson bumper sticker on it yesterday. I don't understand Carson support either.
Posted by: Carol at November 20, 2015 02:37 PM (sj3Ax)"
Carson seems like a nice man and he is certainly accomplished way more in his life than Barack Obama, even after almost two terms as President. People hope that Carson could undo the racial divisions that Obama encouraged and exploited for votes. To be honest, I wish that he could but in my opinion, Dr.Carson's extraordinary skills don't seem to translate into the skills needed to act as the chief executive of the United States.
I thought, and still think, that Bobby Jindal had the skills, personality and will to pull the United States back from the brink, but pretty obviously, not enough other people thought the same thing.
People who are enthusiastic for Carson do not think that America is as far gone as I do. I hope that they are right and that I am wrong.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at November 20, 2015 03:43 PM (QHgTq)
398
299 We all realize you're an establishment gop type, but at a certain point you have to realize you're not among friendlies.
First of all, prior to this primary I named both Walker and Jindal as my top two candidates for 2016. I also voted for Cruz over Dewhurst and strongly supported Greg Abbott's election. All four men are strong conservatives, last I checked. Or are we to the point that your conservative card is revoked if you support a candidate other than Trump?
First of all, prior to this primary I named both Walker and Jindal as my top two candidates for 2016. I also voted for Cruz over Dewhurst and strongly supported Greg Abbott's election. All four men are strong conservatives, last I checked. Or are we to the point that your conservative card is revoked if you support a candidate other than Trump?
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:43 PM (YjDyJ)
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Dentist traded root canals for meth, peddled child porn and was into bestiality: feds
I swear on a stack of Bibles that is not me and he is in NY anyway.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2015 03:37 PM
So on the plus side, when the meth makes his teeth go to hell, he can do his own dental work?
I swear on a stack of Bibles that is not me and he is in NY anyway.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2015 03:37 PM
So on the plus side, when the meth makes his teeth go to hell, he can do his own dental work?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2015 03:43 PM (pLwjI)
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312---Again, look at the data.
CO: Romney won whites 54 to 44
NV: Romney won whites 56 to 43
VA: Romney won whites 61 to 37
CA: Romney won whites 53 to 44
And yet he lost all of these states. Now why do you suppose that is?
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (0LHZx)
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Yep.
In the case of Virginia (my own state) you might say that high black turnout was a biggie. We have a greater percentage of black voters than those other states.
But even here the demo-change due to immigration can make a significant difference.
I can actually remember when Fairfax County and even Arlington County (suburbs of DC) were purple. The GOP had a decent chance there.
Now? Let's just say that the area is... "vibrant."
As in burkas and La Raza.
CO: Romney won whites 54 to 44
NV: Romney won whites 56 to 43
VA: Romney won whites 61 to 37
CA: Romney won whites 53 to 44
And yet he lost all of these states. Now why do you suppose that is?
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (0LHZx)
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Yep.
In the case of Virginia (my own state) you might say that high black turnout was a biggie. We have a greater percentage of black voters than those other states.
But even here the demo-change due to immigration can make a significant difference.
I can actually remember when Fairfax County and even Arlington County (suburbs of DC) were purple. The GOP had a decent chance there.
Now? Let's just say that the area is... "vibrant."
As in burkas and La Raza.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2015 03:44 PM (T/5A0)
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This is why so many of us wouldn't care if Trump won.
Wipe their faces in their own feces.
(of course I love Cruz, and he would do the same - even harder)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (qCMvj)
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I'd love to see Cruz win the presidency just see the look on turtle McConnell's face.
This is why so many of us wouldn't care if Trump won.
Wipe their faces in their own feces.
(of course I love Cruz, and he would do the same - even harder)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2015 03:27 PM (qCMvj)
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I'd love to see Cruz win the presidency just see the look on turtle McConnell's face.
Posted by: Soona at November 20, 2015 03:44 PM (Fmupd)
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Trump is an imbecile.
Posted by: Beef Supreme at November 20, 2015 03:39 PM (c8V4N)
It's always interesting to me when anonymous internet people call wildly successful people "imbeciles" or "idiots."
Posted by: Beef Supreme at November 20, 2015 03:39 PM (c8V4N)
It's always interesting to me when anonymous internet people call wildly successful people "imbeciles" or "idiots."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:45 PM (AkOaV)
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378 172
Kaisch says that he is going to take down Trump.
They must have promised him seventy-two virgins. That is not going to work out. My wife demanded I change the channel during the last debate every time Kasich and his scrunchy pinched face and hectoring preaching came on. "Ugh, change the channel, ugh!" She does not usually react so viscerally to a middle-aged man.
Posted by: Lester at November 20, 2015 03:38 PM (2UPXV)
Is he going to talk him to death?
Kaisch says that he is going to take down Trump.
They must have promised him seventy-two virgins. That is not going to work out. My wife demanded I change the channel during the last debate every time Kasich and his scrunchy pinched face and hectoring preaching came on. "Ugh, change the channel, ugh!" She does not usually react so viscerally to a middle-aged man.
Posted by: Lester at November 20, 2015 03:38 PM (2UPXV)
Is he going to talk him to death?
Posted by: buzzion at November 20, 2015 03:45 PM (z/Ubi)
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80s baby brings the facts. She was very helpful understanding the legislative shananigans yesterday
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:47 PM (zOTsN)
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But we do have their records with regards to donations and previous political stances. For example, I can look at Trump's past donations and see that he donated a great deal of money to the same Democrats which he now claims to oppose. I also know that he has voiced support for single payer, eminent domain, and more government programs for college students, among other things.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:36 PM (YjDyJ)
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This is all true of course and somewhat troubling to me as a Trump supporter. However, I have chosen to take the good with the bad. Trump is the only one committing himself to building a wall. ONLY a wall will save this country. So, nothing else really matters unless we stop the flood of illegals. If you don't believe that, then you don't live in a southern state.
Rubio is out of the question for me because of his known record on immigration as well as his support for H1B visas. I'm an IT worker for a very large telecommunication company and I don't want to suffer the same fate as the IT group at Disney.
Cruz is a possibility, but I don't believe even he has the balls to stand up to his donors on the immigration issue.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:36 PM (YjDyJ)
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This is all true of course and somewhat troubling to me as a Trump supporter. However, I have chosen to take the good with the bad. Trump is the only one committing himself to building a wall. ONLY a wall will save this country. So, nothing else really matters unless we stop the flood of illegals. If you don't believe that, then you don't live in a southern state.
Rubio is out of the question for me because of his known record on immigration as well as his support for H1B visas. I'm an IT worker for a very large telecommunication company and I don't want to suffer the same fate as the IT group at Disney.
Cruz is a possibility, but I don't believe even he has the balls to stand up to his donors on the immigration issue.
Posted by: Stay out da bushes at November 20, 2015 03:47 PM (yioUz)
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I can actually remember when Fairfax County and even Arlington County (suburbs of DC) were purple. The GOP had a decent chance there.
Now? Let's just say that the area is... "vibrant."
As in burkas and La Raza.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2015 03:44 PM (T/5A0)
You have been in NoVA a long time then. We were last her 17 years ago, and it wasn't purple at all then. Fairfax Co. was strictly Dem.
THat said, Gerry Connelly voted to stop Syrian immigration. All you morons might want to get right with Jesus. He's coming quickly, if this is happening.
Now? Let's just say that the area is... "vibrant."
As in burkas and La Raza.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2015 03:44 PM (T/5A0)
You have been in NoVA a long time then. We were last her 17 years ago, and it wasn't purple at all then. Fairfax Co. was strictly Dem.
THat said, Gerry Connelly voted to stop Syrian immigration. All you morons might want to get right with Jesus. He's coming quickly, if this is happening.
Posted by: Moki at November 20, 2015 03:47 PM (7q2ch)
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"Hope you're right--whoever wins the GOP nomination. Anything less than a landslide in the general election and we lose. You honestly think the the far-Left elites currently in charge of the Democratic Party and the mainstream media will give up power as the result of free and fair elections?"
Only a losers like McCain, Romney etc could lose to a #$%#% like Obama.
It even takes a special kind of loser to have lost to Obama.
Clinton is old trash. People are sick and tired of the Clintons and their crap.
Trump won't stop until he wins. The man is a machine. He's got 5 election rallies this week alone. Talk about work ethic. He actually gets us. Gets America. Gets what we want. The others are content to lose.
He's not spending his own money to lose.
Only a losers like McCain, Romney etc could lose to a #$%#% like Obama.
It even takes a special kind of loser to have lost to Obama.
Clinton is old trash. People are sick and tired of the Clintons and their crap.
Trump won't stop until he wins. The man is a machine. He's got 5 election rallies this week alone. Talk about work ethic. He actually gets us. Gets America. Gets what we want. The others are content to lose.
He's not spending his own money to lose.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at November 20, 2015 03:47 PM (C+Q5F)
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How we will end up with President Hillary Clinton, despite the fact that she's repeatedly shit herself, reached into her diaper, and smeared said shit all over her face, on camera; and despite the fact that we HAD (at one time) the strongest field of Republican candidates in recent history:
Conservative thought leader: "Fuck this Jeb guy. If he's the nominee, I'm sitting this one out."
Same guy, 3 months later: "Fuck this Rubio guy. If he's the nominee, I'm sitting this one out."
And so on, til we're left with a buffoon reality TV personality whose claim to fame is building a real estate fortune worth millions given only his own brilliance, and his daddy's real estate fortune worth millions (but mostly his daddy's real estate fortune worth millions). Who knows nothing about issues, who was a Democrat just months before, and now plays the part of the conservative bombast as if he's auditioning for Days of Our Lives.
Un-fucking-believable.
Conservative thought leader: "Fuck this Jeb guy. If he's the nominee, I'm sitting this one out."
Same guy, 3 months later: "Fuck this Rubio guy. If he's the nominee, I'm sitting this one out."
And so on, til we're left with a buffoon reality TV personality whose claim to fame is building a real estate fortune worth millions given only his own brilliance, and his daddy's real estate fortune worth millions (but mostly his daddy's real estate fortune worth millions). Who knows nothing about issues, who was a Democrat just months before, and now plays the part of the conservative bombast as if he's auditioning for Days of Our Lives.
Un-fucking-believable.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 03:48 PM (LqrRo)
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391 I just love people who come here and say their Republicans and then tell us because of demographics we have no chance of winning ever again?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2015 03:41 PM (DUoqb)
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Keep your head in the sand if it makes you feel better.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2015 03:41 PM (DUoqb)
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Keep your head in the sand if it makes you feel better.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:48 PM (0LHZx)
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Posted by: Stay out da bushes at November 20, 2015 03:47 PM (yioUz)
I don't really think Trump will build a wall.
But it's not really about that -- I've come to conclusion that they all lie, they will all say whatever it takes to get elected, and none will represent me in DC.
So in that calculus, I like Trump (am not supporting him, but I guess I will if it comes down to it) because he at least amuses me with his antics.
In reality, 90% chance I'm not voting anyways.
I don't really think Trump will build a wall.
But it's not really about that -- I've come to conclusion that they all lie, they will all say whatever it takes to get elected, and none will represent me in DC.
So in that calculus, I like Trump (am not supporting him, but I guess I will if it comes down to it) because he at least amuses me with his antics.
In reality, 90% chance I'm not voting anyways.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:48 PM (AkOaV)
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Rubio > Romney > McCain.
Trump is not a moral man, and unworthy of the office of president.
Go for Cruz. Go for Carly. Go for Carson. Don't go for Trump. You'll be sorry.
Trump is not a moral man, and unworthy of the office of president.
Go for Cruz. Go for Carly. Go for Carson. Don't go for Trump. You'll be sorry.
Posted by: Hatchet at November 20, 2015 03:48 PM (6A5ND)
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402 It must really interest you whenever Ace calls wildly successful media personalities, actors, liberal CEOs, and the like "imbeciles" or "idiots", huh?
Posted by: Beef Supreme at November 20, 2015 03:48 PM (c8V4N)
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Late to the thread but just want to say I agree with the "No Sale, Rubio" argument. He showed poor judgment, at best, in his Gang Of Eight debacle, and really I think it was stupidity compounded by a too eager-to-fit-in attitude (so I'm being charitable calling it poor judgment) and I think he is way out of his league so far on substance. Hillary will flatten him too.
Done with Rubio, even if I was never much in his camp anyway.
Done with Rubio, even if I was never much in his camp anyway.
Posted by: MTF at November 20, 2015 03:48 PM (TxJGV)
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"391
I just love people who come here and say their Republicans and then tell
us because of demographics we have no chance of winning ever again?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2015 03:41 PM (DUoqb)"
I think that a political party with the name "Republican" will win elections in the future. I don't know that that party will bear much resemblance to a conservative political party that I would want to vote for. I also think that before that happens, Muslim terrorists are going to set off nuclear weapons in a number of American cities.
I just love people who come here and say their Republicans and then tell
us because of demographics we have no chance of winning ever again?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2015 03:41 PM (DUoqb)"
I think that a political party with the name "Republican" will win elections in the future. I don't know that that party will bear much resemblance to a conservative political party that I would want to vote for. I also think that before that happens, Muslim terrorists are going to set off nuclear weapons in a number of American cities.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at November 20, 2015 03:49 PM (QHgTq)
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Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 03:48 PM (LqrRo)
As always, Pasta, your concern is noted.
As always, Pasta, your concern is noted.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:49 PM (AkOaV)
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"I predict Trump will have a landslide victory."
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Oh Lord, how I wish people who say this would put their money where their mouths are!
If Trump is the GOP nominee, I predict a landslide too.
For the Dems.
Well played, Slick Willie, well played.
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Oh Lord, how I wish people who say this would put their money where their mouths are!
If Trump is the GOP nominee, I predict a landslide too.
For the Dems.
Well played, Slick Willie, well played.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2015 03:50 PM (T/5A0)
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. Or are we to the point that your conservative card is revoked if you support a candidate other than Trump? Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:43 PM (YjDyJ)
There was only one (ostensibly) republican candidate who jumped on Trump over his distracted assent to a loaded question. One candidate I notice you never mention. Yet you seem to be agreeing with this ostensibly republican.
But I'll pay extraordinary attention to your comments from now on to either confirm or negate my suspicion.
There was only one (ostensibly) republican candidate who jumped on Trump over his distracted assent to a loaded question. One candidate I notice you never mention. Yet you seem to be agreeing with this ostensibly republican.
But I'll pay extraordinary attention to your comments from now on to either confirm or negate my suspicion.
Posted by: se pa moron at November 20, 2015 03:50 PM (7v/r5)
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:50 PM (zOTsN)
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Alright! The first-time commenters are here!
Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2015 03:51 PM (xodPA)
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Its been a wild ride where the GOP guys say some things that sound pretty bad, and then terrorists do something really bad, and then the Democrats offer up something bad, too.
Trump is laughable...except Obama has been making Trump look reasonable.
Trump is laughable...except Obama has been making Trump look reasonable.
Posted by: Harun at November 20, 2015 03:51 PM (UBBWX)
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412 402 It must really interest you whenever Ace calls wildly successful media personalities, actors, liberal CEOs, and the like "imbeciles" or "idiots", huh?
Posted by: Beef Supreme at November 20, 2015 03:48 PM (c8V4N)
Actors, professional athletes, professional teleprompter readers, no. There are many imbeciles in their ranks.
But yes, I would roll my eyes if I saw ace say "Eric Schmidt is an imbecile" (or example) even though I, too, disagree with Eric Schmidts politics.
Posted by: Beef Supreme at November 20, 2015 03:48 PM (c8V4N)
Actors, professional athletes, professional teleprompter readers, no. There are many imbeciles in their ranks.
But yes, I would roll my eyes if I saw ace say "Eric Schmidt is an imbecile" (or example) even though I, too, disagree with Eric Schmidts politics.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:51 PM (AkOaV)
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Podcast nood up.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2015 03:51 PM (xodPA)
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Also, Rubio is not as bad as you people make out.
Trump will do at least something as bad as Rubio will do, guaranteed.
Trump will do at least something as bad as Rubio will do, guaranteed.
Posted by: Harun at November 20, 2015 03:52 PM (UBBWX)
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80s baby is a long time poster emiritus
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:52 PM (zOTsN)
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Trump is not a moral man, and unworthy of the office of president.
Go for Cruz. Go for Carly. Go for Carson. Don't go for Trump. You'll be sorry.
Posted by: Hatchet at November 20, 2015 03:48 PM (6A5ND)
The voice of an Obongo voter?
Go for Cruz. Go for Carly. Go for Carson. Don't go for Trump. You'll be sorry.
Posted by: Hatchet at November 20, 2015 03:48 PM (6A5ND)
The voice of an Obongo voter?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 20, 2015 03:52 PM (oKE6c)
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Or are we to the point that your conservative card is revoked if you support a candidate other than Trump?
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:43 PM (YjDyJ)
According to Trump supporters, anyway. They're like Ron Paul true believers in the last election cycle. I'm guessing many of them will stay home if their guy doesn't win the nomination. Also like Ron Paul true believers last time out.
It's all pretty ironic when you think about it. Trump's the least conservative candidate of any Republican in the field.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:43 PM (YjDyJ)
According to Trump supporters, anyway. They're like Ron Paul true believers in the last election cycle. I'm guessing many of them will stay home if their guy doesn't win the nomination. Also like Ron Paul true believers last time out.
It's all pretty ironic when you think about it. Trump's the least conservative candidate of any Republican in the field.
Posted by: troyriser at November 20, 2015 03:53 PM (UWlp+)
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Trump will do at least something as bad as Rubio will do, guaranteed.
Curse you and your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Curse you and your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 03:53 PM (evdj2)
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Polls have shown that Trump is the one Republican out of the top 5 or 6 who could lose to Clinton. All the others beat her.
And so we see a whole bunch of new-ish commenters here, supporting Trump, who, I suspect, will no longer hang around in these comments after Hillary beats Trump; because they'll be back at Daily Kos boasting of their sock-puppet wizardry and their own "Operation Chaos".
But I'll be called GOPe and "not a true conservative" because I won't support a fucking Democrat for the Republican nomination.
And so we see a whole bunch of new-ish commenters here, supporting Trump, who, I suspect, will no longer hang around in these comments after Hillary beats Trump; because they'll be back at Daily Kos boasting of their sock-puppet wizardry and their own "Operation Chaos".
But I'll be called GOPe and "not a true conservative" because I won't support a fucking Democrat for the Republican nomination.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 03:53 PM (LqrRo)
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Ace -- Trump had time to call Mary Katherine Hamm's stupid but didn't at the same time to address the database stuff. Why respond to her with insults yet not respond to she's supposedly saying that was stupid?
Posted by: Alix at November 20, 2015 03:53 PM (MpfHK)
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Successful "actors" are successful because
a) they are good looking
b) they can read lines well
c) they probably fucked someone important
Neither of those 3 things make them smart.
a) they are good looking
b) they can read lines well
c) they probably fucked someone important
Neither of those 3 things make them smart.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:53 PM (0LHZx)
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I read the interview in question before the asses lied about it and never once did I think Trump was onboard -- it was OBVIOUS that the reporter from Yahoo (buncha dirtbags) was asking a LEADING question just to make Trump look bad. All Trump said was we'd look at all sorts of ways of stopping terror but he NEVER agreed with the specific suggestions of said dirtbag reporter.
When I saw the hub-bub about this I rolled my eyes because it is so OBVIOUS to anyone who READ the interview. But, even CRUZ fell for the media lie! Cruz was out there criticizing Trump today.
Cruz -- by his own admission -- fell for McConnell's lies. Now he's fallen for the media's lies. He gets fooled awfully easily. And he voted for TPA (but not TPP so he could "keep his hands clean" and fool his constituents). Cruz is not only in my doghouse but I don't even want him as VP anymore. Plus his wife's a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and works for Goldman Sachs. No thanks. No more NWO Wall Street types.
When I saw the hub-bub about this I rolled my eyes because it is so OBVIOUS to anyone who READ the interview. But, even CRUZ fell for the media lie! Cruz was out there criticizing Trump today.
Cruz -- by his own admission -- fell for McConnell's lies. Now he's fallen for the media's lies. He gets fooled awfully easily. And he voted for TPA (but not TPP so he could "keep his hands clean" and fool his constituents). Cruz is not only in my doghouse but I don't even want him as VP anymore. Plus his wife's a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and works for Goldman Sachs. No thanks. No more NWO Wall Street types.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 20, 2015 03:53 PM (xetep)
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421 412 402 Right. I'm sure you roll your eyes each time you hear somebody call George Soros an idiot.
Posted by: Beef Supreme at November 20, 2015 03:54 PM (c8V4N)
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>>>Why I'm suspicious of Carson's numbers. Its all based around Twitter and Facebook followers. Nobody shows up at his speeches.
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.Plus he disappears from campaigning for two weeks to sell books and his numbers hardly move. What gives?
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.Plus he disappears from campaigning for two weeks to sell books and his numbers hardly move. What gives?
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 20, 2015 03:54 PM (iONHu)
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Rubio showed poor judgement!
Trump has never showed poor judgement!
Trump has never donated to Democrats or supported single payer. He never said Kelo was good.
You're going to be burned either way - no one gets what they want.
I predict Trump cuts a deal with Chamber of Commerce in the end...he's hiring illegals for his hotels of course.
Trump has never showed poor judgement!
Trump has never donated to Democrats or supported single payer. He never said Kelo was good.
You're going to be burned either way - no one gets what they want.
I predict Trump cuts a deal with Chamber of Commerce in the end...he's hiring illegals for his hotels of course.
Posted by: Harun at November 20, 2015 03:54 PM (UBBWX)
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402 Trump is an imbecile.
Posted by: Beef Supreme at November 20, 2015 03:39 PM (c8V4N)
It's always interesting to me when anonymous internet people call wildly successful people "imbeciles" or "idiots."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:45 PM (AkOaV)
Does this principle apply to Obama or not?
Just to be clear, I think Obama's intelligence is overrated, buy I'm not going to let the fact he's been successful and I'm anonymous stop me from saying that.
Wealthy people can be idiots. Successful people can be idiots. If that statement is troubling to someone, that's crossing the line from populism to cult behavior.
Posted by: Beef Supreme at November 20, 2015 03:39 PM (c8V4N)
It's always interesting to me when anonymous internet people call wildly successful people "imbeciles" or "idiots."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:45 PM (AkOaV)
Does this principle apply to Obama or not?
Just to be clear, I think Obama's intelligence is overrated, buy I'm not going to let the fact he's been successful and I'm anonymous stop me from saying that.
Wealthy people can be idiots. Successful people can be idiots. If that statement is troubling to someone, that's crossing the line from populism to cult behavior.
Posted by: AD at November 20, 2015 03:55 PM (E6neC)
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And he voted for TPA (but not TPP so he could "keep his hands clean" and fool his constituents).
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Not this constituent.
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Not this constituent.
Posted by: SH at November 20, 2015 03:55 PM (gmeXX)
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428 Polls have shown that Trump is the one Republican out of the top 5 or 6 who could lose to Clinton. All the others beat her.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 03:53 PM (LqrRo)
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LOL!
Yes just like Romney was beating Obama by 5% in November 2011. Say, how did that work out? And if I recall correctly McCain was beating Obama in late 2007 and early 2008 as well.
But yeah, polls!!
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 03:53 PM (LqrRo)
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LOL!
Yes just like Romney was beating Obama by 5% in November 2011. Say, how did that work out? And if I recall correctly McCain was beating Obama in late 2007 and early 2008 as well.
But yeah, polls!!
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:55 PM (0LHZx)
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424 80s baby is a long time poster emiritus
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:52 PM (zOTsN)
I don't believe he was referring to miss80s as a first time poster.
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:52 PM (zOTsN)
I don't believe he was referring to miss80s as a first time poster.
Posted by: buzzion at November 20, 2015 03:55 PM (z/Ubi)
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ccording to Trump supporters, anyway. They're like Ron Paul true believers in the last election cycle. I'm guessing many of them will stay home if their guy doesn't win the nomination. Also like Ron Paul true believers last time out.
It's all pretty ironic when you think about it. Trump's the least conservative candidate of any Republican in the field.
Posted by: troyriser at November 20, 2015 03:53 PM (UWlp+)
not on immigration he isn't
It's all pretty ironic when you think about it. Trump's the least conservative candidate of any Republican in the field.
Posted by: troyriser at November 20, 2015 03:53 PM (UWlp+)
not on immigration he isn't
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:55 PM (zOTsN)
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Former Nazi Collaborator and Convicted Felon George Soros
Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook at November 20, 2015 03:55 PM (evdj2)
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oh my god with the concern trolls!
I feel like twitter followed ace back to the hq.
Maybe its better if he just stays with that whore instead of dragging her crabs back in to our marital bed (am I going too far with this analogy? Probably)
I feel like twitter followed ace back to the hq.
Maybe its better if he just stays with that whore instead of dragging her crabs back in to our marital bed (am I going too far with this analogy? Probably)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:55 PM (AkOaV)
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Thank you, buzzion, for your support. Now that's why I sent flowers to your funeral.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2015 03:56 PM (xodPA)
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"Where the fuck are all these supposed white voters who sat out elections? There is ZERO empirical evidence that they exist. Yet the myth keeps going that Romney somehow alienated millions and millions of white voters who sat home. It's bullshit."
Where are all these mythical "conservative Hispanics" who are just dying to vote for Republicans?
Rubio and Cruz should be the front runners if all these mythical Conservative Hispanic exist.
Trump is killing it with working white class voters.
Where are all these mythical "conservative Hispanics" who are just dying to vote for Republicans?
Rubio and Cruz should be the front runners if all these mythical Conservative Hispanic exist.
Trump is killing it with working white class voters.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at November 20, 2015 03:56 PM (C+Q5F)
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Trump is a "political imbecile", I agree. And by that I mean he doesn't play the game that every politician is supposed to play. Not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing in the long run, but it's a thing.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:56 PM (0LHZx)
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381 the one issue i think is paramount, above all others, and determinative of all others, is immigration
I have two issues which tie for number one, national security and entitlement reform. Now immigration is part of both those issues but for me it is not the only issue.
With regards to Trump and immigration, his current plan is to deport illegal aliens, then bring some of them back. He also supports temporary work visas for agricultural workers "to make sure the grapes get picked". In other words, he is not really that different from the other candidates.
I have two issues which tie for number one, national security and entitlement reform. Now immigration is part of both those issues but for me it is not the only issue.
With regards to Trump and immigration, his current plan is to deport illegal aliens, then bring some of them back. He also supports temporary work visas for agricultural workers "to make sure the grapes get picked". In other words, he is not really that different from the other candidates.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:57 PM (YjDyJ)
446
Personally I prefer Cruz over all others, because brains. But winning matters this election cycle OVER ANYTHING ELSE. If the democrats continue to stack the deck with islamists and illegal immigrants our two party system is OVER.
Which means we are socialists on the road to communists. With a boot pressed against our faces FOREVER.
Which means we are socialists on the road to communists. With a boot pressed against our faces FOREVER.
Posted by: se pa moron at November 20, 2015 03:57 PM (7v/r5)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 03:57 PM (evdj2)
448
>>>>Hope you're right--whoever wins the GOP nomination. Anything less than a
landslide in the general election and we lose. You honestly think the
the far-Left elites currently in charge of the Democratic Party and the
mainstream media will give up power as the result of free and fair
elections?
If it's close, we lose. Always.
.
.
.
.Seriously?
landslide in the general election and we lose. You honestly think the
the far-Left elites currently in charge of the Democratic Party and the
mainstream media will give up power as the result of free and fair
elections?
If it's close, we lose. Always.
.
.
.
.Seriously?
Posted by: Al Gore at November 20, 2015 03:57 PM (iONHu)
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Harry @ 415: Thanks for that -- that's why I come here, to make sure it's still noted.
Because I'm a concern troll. Because I (a Republican, who actually votes Republican, and contributes to them, even assholes like McCain, way-way-way the lesser of two evils compared to TFG) am not a true conservative, because I won't support a DEMOCRAT for our party's nomination.
Because I'm a concern troll. Because I (a Republican, who actually votes Republican, and contributes to them, even assholes like McCain, way-way-way the lesser of two evils compared to TFG) am not a true conservative, because I won't support a DEMOCRAT for our party's nomination.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 03:57 PM (LqrRo)
450
432
421 412 402 Right. I'm sure you roll your eyes each time you hear somebody call George Soros an idiot.
Posted by: Beef Supreme at November 20, 2015 03:54 PM (c8V4N)
I don't recall anyone ever calling George Soros an idiot. Lots of other things, none of them complimentary (Communist, Democrat, Nazi collaborator, kapo, Most Evil Man in the World, etc.) but never an idiot.
421 412 402 Right. I'm sure you roll your eyes each time you hear somebody call George Soros an idiot.
Posted by: Beef Supreme at November 20, 2015 03:54 PM (c8V4N)
I don't recall anyone ever calling George Soros an idiot. Lots of other things, none of them complimentary (Communist, Democrat, Nazi collaborator, kapo, Most Evil Man in the World, etc.) but never an idiot.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 20, 2015 03:57 PM (oKE6c)
451
"And so we see a whole bunch of new-ish commenters here, supporting Trump, who, I suspect, will no longer hang around in these comments after Hillary beats Trump; because they'll be back at Daily Kos boasting of their sock-puppet wizardry and their own "Operation Chaos".
Some are just white-nationalist-curious or semi-racist old people* who want a white America and this is their one big chance.
They usually don't show up to vote, well, because GOPe didn't offer them much, but they may this time.
We'll see.
Some are just white-nationalist-curious or semi-racist old people* who want a white America and this is their one big chance.
They usually don't show up to vote, well, because GOPe didn't offer them much, but they may this time.
We'll see.
Posted by: Harun at November 20, 2015 03:57 PM (UBBWX)
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443 "Where the fuck are all these supposed white voters who sat out elections? There is ZERO empirical evidence that they exist. Yet the myth keeps going that Romney somehow alienated millions and millions of white voters who sat home. It's bullshit."
Where are all these mythical "conservative Hispanics" who are just dying to vote for Republicans?
Rubio and Cruz should be the front runners if all these mythical Conservative Hispanic exist.
Trump is killing it with working white class voters.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at November 20, 2015 03:56 PM (C+Q5F)
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You're conflating 2 issues.
Trump may very well be killing it with white working class voters. But that in no way proves that Romney didn't win these same people.
The assertion is that millions of white voters sat out 2012 because Romney wasn't conservative enough. But there is absolutely zero proof that this happened.
As for the mythical Hispanic conservatives, I agree, they don't exist. But again, that has nothing to do with white voters sitting out 2012 because of Romney.
Where are all these mythical "conservative Hispanics" who are just dying to vote for Republicans?
Rubio and Cruz should be the front runners if all these mythical Conservative Hispanic exist.
Trump is killing it with working white class voters.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at November 20, 2015 03:56 PM (C+Q5F)
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You're conflating 2 issues.
Trump may very well be killing it with white working class voters. But that in no way proves that Romney didn't win these same people.
The assertion is that millions of white voters sat out 2012 because Romney wasn't conservative enough. But there is absolutely zero proof that this happened.
As for the mythical Hispanic conservatives, I agree, they don't exist. But again, that has nothing to do with white voters sitting out 2012 because of Romney.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:58 PM (0LHZx)
453
Michael Moore "says" he is opening his home.....to any Syrian couple that has been "vented" by the WH.. (as long as they do the cooking, cleaning, toilet whipping).....
Posted by: Colin at November 20, 2015 03:58 PM (8BlfF)
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406----You have been in NoVA a long time then. We were last here 17 years ago, and it wasn't purple at all then. Fairfax Co. was strictly Dem.
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Heh.
I did live there a long, long time ago and have seen the changes every time I go back.
But I've been in SWVa for the last couple of decades.
A whole different world!
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Heh.
I did live there a long, long time ago and have seen the changes every time I go back.
But I've been in SWVa for the last couple of decades.
A whole different world!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2015 03:58 PM (T/5A0)
455
All snark aside, I will vote Trump over Clinton if she appears to be winning.
I'm hoping she's in jail by then.
I'm hoping she's in jail by then.
Posted by: Harun at November 20, 2015 03:59 PM (UBBWX)
456
Trump is a 'Love him or Hate him' kind of guy.
And right now, many, many, many more people LOOOOOVVVVEE him!
And right now, many, many, many more people LOOOOOVVVVEE him!
Posted by: Trump Taj Mahal at November 20, 2015 03:59 PM (6nGV8)
457
The Uniparty must have appropriated a bunch of troll and moby money.
Posted by: Soona at November 20, 2015 03:59 PM (Fmupd)
458
417 There was only one (ostensibly) republican candidate who jumped on Trump over his distracted assent to a loaded question. One candidate I notice you never mention. Yet you seem to be agreeing with this ostensibly republican.
Actually, Cruz also voiced opposition to Trump's (supposed?) plan. With regards to Jeb Bush, I said some weeks ago that he needed to drop-out of the race.
Actually, Cruz also voiced opposition to Trump's (supposed?) plan. With regards to Jeb Bush, I said some weeks ago that he needed to drop-out of the race.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:59 PM (YjDyJ)
459
But I know Trumpkins won't vote for anyone else...well, mayyyybeee Cruz, because that's how they roll.
Posted by: Harun at November 20, 2015 03:59 PM (UBBWX)
460
432 421 412 402 Right. I'm sure you roll your eyes each time you hear somebody call George Soros an idiot.
Posted by: Beef Supreme at November 20, 2015 03:54 PM (c8V4N)
Yeah, I do.
Because no matter what you say about the man, he's made billions by making the right financial bets in a ludicrously competitive and difficult industry. He went from a Nazi collaborating orphan to one of the richest men on the planet largely based on his own brain power.
So yeah, I'd roll my eyes if someone called him an idiot.
Posted by: Beef Supreme at November 20, 2015 03:54 PM (c8V4N)
Yeah, I do.
Because no matter what you say about the man, he's made billions by making the right financial bets in a ludicrously competitive and difficult industry. He went from a Nazi collaborating orphan to one of the richest men on the planet largely based on his own brain power.
So yeah, I'd roll my eyes if someone called him an idiot.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:59 PM (AkOaV)
461
429 Ace -- Trump had time to call Mary Katherine Hamm's stupid but didn't at the same time to address the database stuff. Why respond to her with insults yet not respond to she's supposedly saying that was stupid?
Posted by: Alix at November 20, 2015 03:53 PM (MpfHK)
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Mary Katherine Hamm is an idiotic libertarian freaknoid and deserves to be called stupid......because she is.
Posted by: Alix at November 20, 2015 03:53 PM (MpfHK)
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Mary Katherine Hamm is an idiotic libertarian freaknoid and deserves to be called stupid......because she is.
Posted by: Stay out da bushes at November 20, 2015 04:00 PM (yioUz)
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I have two issues which tie for number one, national security and entitlement reform. Now immigration is part of both those issues but for me it is not the only issue.
With regards to Trump and immigration, his current plan is to deport illegal aliens, then bring some of them back. He also supports temporary work visas for agricultural workers "to make sure the grapes get picked". In other words, he is not really that different from the other candidates.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:57 PM (YjDyJ)
well its number one with me
and the others, regardless of what they SAY there policy is, have acted differently
Rubios campaign cash, and his heart, are pro amnesty
always have been
always will be
no sale
With regards to Trump and immigration, his current plan is to deport illegal aliens, then bring some of them back. He also supports temporary work visas for agricultural workers "to make sure the grapes get picked". In other words, he is not really that different from the other candidates.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:57 PM (YjDyJ)
well its number one with me
and the others, regardless of what they SAY there policy is, have acted differently
Rubios campaign cash, and his heart, are pro amnesty
always have been
always will be
no sale
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 04:00 PM (zOTsN)
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Some are just white-nationalist-curious or semi-racist old people* who want a white America and this is their one big chance.
They usually don't show up to vote, well, because GOPe didn't offer them much, but they may this time.
We'll see.
Posted by: Harun at November 20, 2015 03:57 PM (UBBWX)
__________
You do realize you sound exactly like an MSNNC anchor speaking about the tea party, yes? But I know, I know, you're totes conservative 'n stuff.
They usually don't show up to vote, well, because GOPe didn't offer them much, but they may this time.
We'll see.
Posted by: Harun at November 20, 2015 03:57 PM (UBBWX)
__________
You do realize you sound exactly like an MSNNC anchor speaking about the tea party, yes? But I know, I know, you're totes conservative 'n stuff.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 04:00 PM (0LHZx)
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@79 Posted by: K-E at November 20, 2015 02:46 PM (dfNsf)
"If you think Trump would 100% be making all the decisions in government based on his knowledge today without any support from a cabinet or other advisors, then you are nuts. He will pick great people, because he is no dummy."
'Trust me, I have smart advisors,' is not a new nor particularly credible claim. Rubio will have smart advisors, which undercuts your dig against him.
The question, for me, is whether I feel I can trust the person to do the right thing on most issues. I have NO trust Trump will. Not even on immigration do I expect him to stand by his promises. He's smart business man who is packaging a product, and he will stand behind it only as long as it is profitable. We only need look at his past positions on immigration (or abortion)to see this is true.
A President Trump will be naïve in foreign affairs (with arguably good advisors) and revert to his natural inclinations at home (despite arguably good advisors).
Rubio did get ahead of himself on immigration as the Overton window shifted within the GOP. Yet we have 2 choices: maintain the status quo or find a solution to millions of illegals permanently residing here (force them out or make them legal). Trump does not have a real plan.
"If you think Trump would 100% be making all the decisions in government based on his knowledge today without any support from a cabinet or other advisors, then you are nuts. He will pick great people, because he is no dummy."
'Trust me, I have smart advisors,' is not a new nor particularly credible claim. Rubio will have smart advisors, which undercuts your dig against him.
The question, for me, is whether I feel I can trust the person to do the right thing on most issues. I have NO trust Trump will. Not even on immigration do I expect him to stand by his promises. He's smart business man who is packaging a product, and he will stand behind it only as long as it is profitable. We only need look at his past positions on immigration (or abortion)to see this is true.
A President Trump will be naïve in foreign affairs (with arguably good advisors) and revert to his natural inclinations at home (despite arguably good advisors).
Rubio did get ahead of himself on immigration as the Overton window shifted within the GOP. Yet we have 2 choices: maintain the status quo or find a solution to millions of illegals permanently residing here (force them out or make them legal). Trump does not have a real plan.
Posted by: Crispian at November 20, 2015 04:02 PM (n9Zp5)
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Some are just white-nationalist-curious or semi-racist old people* who want a white America and this is their one big chance.
Posted by: Harun at November 20, 2015 03:57 PM (UBBWX)
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Posted by: Harun at November 20, 2015 03:57 PM (UBBWX)
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Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 20, 2015 04:02 PM (8ZskC)
466
"not on immigration he isn't"
Yep. It's all about immigration. It tops all issues and Trump is the man.
I'm not a Paul support and I've never, ever stayed home from a vote. Never. I voted for McCain. I voted for Romney.
I will stay home, though for the first time if a Uniparty member is the nominee.
It's Trump or bust for me this time.
Yep. It's all about immigration. It tops all issues and Trump is the man.
I'm not a Paul support and I've never, ever stayed home from a vote. Never. I voted for McCain. I voted for Romney.
I will stay home, though for the first time if a Uniparty member is the nominee.
It's Trump or bust for me this time.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at November 20, 2015 04:02 PM (C+Q5F)
467
I predict Trump cuts a deal with Chamber of Commerce in the end...he's hiring illegals for his hotels of course. Posted by: Harun at November 20, 2015 03:54 PM (UBBWX)
Did you know that there is no penalty for hiring 9 illegals? The magic number is 10. Then the fines, serious penalties kick in.
Second, do you think for ONE minute Trump had a hotel full of illegals the MSM wouldn't be dragging these people before the stage lights and have them pouring their hearts out.
Did you know that there is no penalty for hiring 9 illegals? The magic number is 10. Then the fines, serious penalties kick in.
Second, do you think for ONE minute Trump had a hotel full of illegals the MSM wouldn't be dragging these people before the stage lights and have them pouring their hearts out.
Posted by: se pa moron at November 20, 2015 04:02 PM (7v/r5)
468
I have two issues which tie for number one,
national security and entitlement reform. Now immigration is part of
both those issues but for me it is not the only issue.
With
regards to Trump and immigration, his current plan is to deport illegal
aliens, then bring some of them back. He also supports temporary work
visas for agricultural workers "to make sure the grapes get picked". In
other words, he is not really that different from the other candidates.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:57 PM (YjDyJ)
I beg to differ. Trump single-handedly put the immigration issue front and center this election, when everybody else of both parties was happy to dance around it. He recognizes that illegal immigration poses an existential threat to this country, and moreover, is willing to say that, the disapprobation of the elites notwithstanding.
What he could/would do as President depends critically on the composition of Congress and the Federal judiciary; it's not solely his call. But at least he does get the critical issue, and he's has enough hard bark on him not to be fazed by the withering criticism he will/would face. He doesn't crave approval, and that's a strength.
For my part, I'd rather have one of our critical issues dealt with dispositively than several of them farted around with. If Trump could turn the immigration tide in his first term, I would count his Administration as a success.
I have two issues which tie for number one,
national security and entitlement reform. Now immigration is part of
both those issues but for me it is not the only issue.
With
regards to Trump and immigration, his current plan is to deport illegal
aliens, then bring some of them back. He also supports temporary work
visas for agricultural workers "to make sure the grapes get picked". In
other words, he is not really that different from the other candidates.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:57 PM (YjDyJ)
I beg to differ. Trump single-handedly put the immigration issue front and center this election, when everybody else of both parties was happy to dance around it. He recognizes that illegal immigration poses an existential threat to this country, and moreover, is willing to say that, the disapprobation of the elites notwithstanding.
What he could/would do as President depends critically on the composition of Congress and the Federal judiciary; it's not solely his call. But at least he does get the critical issue, and he's has enough hard bark on him not to be fazed by the withering criticism he will/would face. He doesn't crave approval, and that's a strength.
For my part, I'd rather have one of our critical issues dealt with dispositively than several of them farted around with. If Trump could turn the immigration tide in his first term, I would count his Administration as a success.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 20, 2015 04:04 PM (oKE6c)
469
Posted by: SH at November 20, 2015 03:55 PM (gmeXX)
I am surprised that he thought he could pull one over on TEXANS of all people. So far, his cultists over at the right scoop have been fooled, tho.
I am surprised that he thought he could pull one over on TEXANS of all people. So far, his cultists over at the right scoop have been fooled, tho.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 20, 2015 04:04 PM (xetep)
470
Second, do you think for ONE minute Trump had a hotel full of illegals the MSM wouldn't be dragging these people before the stage lights and have them pouring their hearts out.
Posted by: se pa moron at November 20, 2015 04:02 PM (7v/r5)
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Leave him alone, he's on a roll....
Posted by: se pa moron at November 20, 2015 04:02 PM (7v/r5)
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Leave him alone, he's on a roll....
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 04:04 PM (0LHZx)
471
In other words, he is not really that different from the other candidates.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:57 PM (YjDyJ)
But again, if they're all lying and the substance of what each of them says is just focus group and poll tested to win primaries before they can shake the etch-a-sketch and come up with new substance for the general -- then we're no longer voting on substance, right?
We're just voting on style.
And on style, I mean, cmon -- the big gaudy new yorker beats the Cuban from Florida 10 out of 10 times unless Marco goes full-out scarface (and he does have that luxury yacht, so he's on his way).
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:57 PM (YjDyJ)
But again, if they're all lying and the substance of what each of them says is just focus group and poll tested to win primaries before they can shake the etch-a-sketch and come up with new substance for the general -- then we're no longer voting on substance, right?
We're just voting on style.
And on style, I mean, cmon -- the big gaudy new yorker beats the Cuban from Florida 10 out of 10 times unless Marco goes full-out scarface (and he does have that luxury yacht, so he's on his way).
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 04:05 PM (AkOaV)
472
Successful "actors" are successful because
a) they are good looking
b) they can read lines well
c) they probably fucked someone important
Neither of those 3 things make them smart.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:53 PM (0LHZx)
Those are the attributes for most successful actresses and a few actors.. Most actors are successful due to their being clinical schizophrenics who just haven't been put away.
a) they are good looking
b) they can read lines well
c) they probably fucked someone important
Neither of those 3 things make them smart.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 03:53 PM (0LHZx)
Those are the attributes for most successful actresses and a few actors.. Most actors are successful due to their being clinical schizophrenics who just haven't been put away.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 20, 2015 04:05 PM (zc3Db)
473
"With regards to Trump and immigration, his current plan is to deport illegal aliens, then bring some of them back."
Bring people from the FRONT OF THE LINE. People who followed the law and waited in line.
These are people that respect our system.
Bring people from the FRONT OF THE LINE. People who followed the law and waited in line.
These are people that respect our system.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at November 20, 2015 04:06 PM (C+Q5F)
474
Second, do you think for ONE minute Trump had a
hotel full of illegals the MSM wouldn't be dragging these people before
the stage lights and have them pouring their hearts out.
Posted by: se pa moron at November 20, 2015 04:02 PM (7v/r5)
Yep, along with their (if necessary made up) stories of terrible abuse.
Third, do you think Trump personally hires every chambermaid and gardener in each hotel?
hotel full of illegals the MSM wouldn't be dragging these people before
the stage lights and have them pouring their hearts out.
Posted by: se pa moron at November 20, 2015 04:02 PM (7v/r5)
Yep, along with their (if necessary made up) stories of terrible abuse.
Third, do you think Trump personally hires every chambermaid and gardener in each hotel?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 20, 2015 04:06 PM (oKE6c)
475
At least I can take cold comfort in this: After Trump wins the nomination, the press *suddenly* releases one sordid story after another about his past behavior and statements, and Trump loses in a landslide to Hillary Clinton...
I can at least come back here and tell "Monsieur Mew Mew": I told you so.
So we'll have another 4 or 8 years of soul-crushing socialism, and we'll lose 2 SCOTUS justices, and they'll replenish 3 aging justices, and you know that wall that's the number-fucking-one priority for all you Trump guys? They'll build it then, but it will be to keep us in, not to keep anyone out.
But at least I'll have that one I-told-you-so.
I can at least come back here and tell "Monsieur Mew Mew": I told you so.
So we'll have another 4 or 8 years of soul-crushing socialism, and we'll lose 2 SCOTUS justices, and they'll replenish 3 aging justices, and you know that wall that's the number-fucking-one priority for all you Trump guys? They'll build it then, but it will be to keep us in, not to keep anyone out.
But at least I'll have that one I-told-you-so.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 04:06 PM (LqrRo)
476
OK I'll bite.
No we don't want a "white" America.
However, I don't want Third World America, i.e. an America dominated by voters who believe in lifelong dependency, who don't understand and fear the marketplace, who look for a centralized government solution to every perceived problem in their life.
Which which means, in an age of non-assimilated immigrants, controlling the rate of overall immigration, both legal and non legal from pretty much everywhere outside of Canada and New Zealand (and those are questionable lately).
So I'm a "culture-ist" not a racist, as in a culture that "gets" limited government, the rule of law, individual rights, self-reliance whenever possible, and in favor of the most local, least coercive level of government intervention.
Horrible, horrible person that I am.
No we don't want a "white" America.
However, I don't want Third World America, i.e. an America dominated by voters who believe in lifelong dependency, who don't understand and fear the marketplace, who look for a centralized government solution to every perceived problem in their life.
Which which means, in an age of non-assimilated immigrants, controlling the rate of overall immigration, both legal and non legal from pretty much everywhere outside of Canada and New Zealand (and those are questionable lately).
So I'm a "culture-ist" not a racist, as in a culture that "gets" limited government, the rule of law, individual rights, self-reliance whenever possible, and in favor of the most local, least coercive level of government intervention.
Horrible, horrible person that I am.
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at November 20, 2015 04:06 PM (k8tEg)
477
Posted by: troyriser at November 20, 2015 03:53 PM (UWlp+)
Totally unfair. Ron Paulians were "true believers" who supported a loser from the start -- Paul NEVER led in any legit poll. Trump however is leading -- YUGE, I might add -- in EVERY poll. Plus, Paul is an anti-semitic moonbat and Trump is not, so again, unfair.
Totally unfair. Ron Paulians were "true believers" who supported a loser from the start -- Paul NEVER led in any legit poll. Trump however is leading -- YUGE, I might add -- in EVERY poll. Plus, Paul is an anti-semitic moonbat and Trump is not, so again, unfair.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 20, 2015 04:07 PM (xetep)
478
Eh, look Rubioids, this is very simple.
Rubio lied to his voters.
Joined the Gang of 8 to do exactly the polar opposite regarding illegal alien amnesty that he promised his voters, thus stabbing them in the back.
And we should believe him now becuz.....what?
Dimples?
Yeah, no.
I will never vote for Rubio for any public office simply because he's a liar who I can't trust,
no matter what wonderful lies he spewing now.
Rubio lied to his voters.
Joined the Gang of 8 to do exactly the polar opposite regarding illegal alien amnesty that he promised his voters, thus stabbing them in the back.
And we should believe him now becuz.....what?
Dimples?
Yeah, no.
I will never vote for Rubio for any public office simply because he's a liar who I can't trust,
no matter what wonderful lies he spewing now.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 20, 2015 04:07 PM (0cMkb)
479
Speaking of databases:
Don't know if anyone realizes this, but DoD has created a database for everyone affected by the OPM hack.
Of course, it's for our protection.
http://www.nextgov.com/cybersecurity/2015/10/dod-create-database-opm-breach-victims/122851/
Don't know if anyone realizes this, but DoD has created a database for everyone affected by the OPM hack.
Of course, it's for our protection.
http://www.nextgov.com/cybersecurity/2015/10/dod-create-database-opm-breach-victims/122851/
Posted by: SMFH at November 20, 2015 04:07 PM (zyIlW)
480
With regards to Trump and immigration ILLEGALS, his current plan is to deport illegal aliens, then bring some of them back. He also supports temporary work visas for agricultural workers "to make sure the grapes get picked". In other words, he is not really that different from the other candidates.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:57 PM (YjDyJ)
Illegals are not part of "immigration" and none of the other candidates are even in the same universe as Trump when it comes to dealing with illegals. Not even the same universe.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 03:57 PM (YjDyJ)
Illegals are not part of "immigration" and none of the other candidates are even in the same universe as Trump when it comes to dealing with illegals. Not even the same universe.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 20, 2015 04:07 PM (zc3Db)
481
>>>>Second, do you think for ONE minute Trump had a hotel full of illegals
the MSM wouldn't be dragging these people before the stage lights and
have them pouring their hearts out.
.
.
.I am actually mildly surprised that they haven't invented one yet, but that kind of stuff is easy to disprove. But you are right, if one existed they would have been all over the news with it 24/7.
the MSM wouldn't be dragging these people before the stage lights and
have them pouring their hearts out.
.
.
.I am actually mildly surprised that they haven't invented one yet, but that kind of stuff is easy to disprove. But you are right, if one existed they would have been all over the news with it 24/7.
Posted by: Al Gore at November 20, 2015 04:08 PM (iONHu)
482
I can at least come back here and tell "Monsieur Mew Mew": I told you so.
So we'll have another 4 or 8 years of soul-crushing socialism, and we'll lose 2 SCOTUS justices, and they'll replenish 3 aging justices, and you know that wall that's the number-fucking-one priority for all you Trump guys? They'll build it then, but it will be to keep us in, not to keep anyone out.
But at least I'll have that one I-told-you-so.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 04:06 PM (LqrRo)
_______
Dude, you're arguing with the wrong person. I agree with you that Hillary will win. Doesn't matter who the GOP nominee is, she will win. Demographics baby, it's what's for dinner.
So we'll have another 4 or 8 years of soul-crushing socialism, and we'll lose 2 SCOTUS justices, and they'll replenish 3 aging justices, and you know that wall that's the number-fucking-one priority for all you Trump guys? They'll build it then, but it will be to keep us in, not to keep anyone out.
But at least I'll have that one I-told-you-so.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 04:06 PM (LqrRo)
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Dude, you're arguing with the wrong person. I agree with you that Hillary will win. Doesn't matter who the GOP nominee is, she will win. Demographics baby, it's what's for dinner.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 04:08 PM (0LHZx)
483
So, if Marco is chosen by the voters, Ace will stay home? Welcome President Clinton.
I find the Don to be a buffoon, and many of the things his critics call him, but I would still get out and vote for him over the vile beast that is Hillary.
I find the Don to be a buffoon, and many of the things his critics call him, but I would still get out and vote for him over the vile beast that is Hillary.
Posted by: Prince Matchabelli at November 20, 2015 04:08 PM (zmZ2x)
484
Rubio did get ahead of himself on immigration as the Overton window shifted within the GOP.
Posted by: Crispian at November 20, 2015 04:02 PM (n9Zp5)
Eh, I think the italicized part in parenthesis was not supposed to be included in your typed up talking points.
Because that kind of makes it seem like Rubio still believes in amnesty, but had to shift his views because the voters changed their minds.
Which would be a delusional way to think, and would also expose Rubio as a hack opportunist who is lying to the voters.
So I'm sure you did not mean to type up that part.
Posted by: Crispian at November 20, 2015 04:02 PM (n9Zp5)
Eh, I think the italicized part in parenthesis was not supposed to be included in your typed up talking points.
Because that kind of makes it seem like Rubio still believes in amnesty, but had to shift his views because the voters changed their minds.
Which would be a delusional way to think, and would also expose Rubio as a hack opportunist who is lying to the voters.
So I'm sure you did not mean to type up that part.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 04:08 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Harun at November 20, 2015 04:10 PM (UBBWX)
486
Democrats win because they almost always stay united. The attitude is always, we may have our differences, but every Democrat is good, every Republican is the devil.
Compare that to so-called conservatives leading the anti-Trump Jihad.
Compare that to so-called conservatives leading the anti-Trump Jihad.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 04:10 PM (0LHZx)
487
not on immigration he isn't Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:55 PM (zOTsN)
Trump recently came out in support of single-payer healthcare aka socialized medicine. Not even Obama went that far Left.My point remains: Trump is the most far-Left GOP candidate out there. He just happens to intersect with GOP basevoters when it comes to immigration.
So yeah, by all means support Trump but don't for a moment tell me how conservative you are for doing so.Trump isn't conservative, and since you support a socialized medicine advocate over other, more conservative candidates such as Cruz or even Fiorina, you aren't, either.
Trump recently came out in support of single-payer healthcare aka socialized medicine. Not even Obama went that far Left.My point remains: Trump is the most far-Left GOP candidate out there. He just happens to intersect with GOP basevoters when it comes to immigration.
So yeah, by all means support Trump but don't for a moment tell me how conservative you are for doing so.Trump isn't conservative, and since you support a socialized medicine advocate over other, more conservative candidates such as Cruz or even Fiorina, you aren't, either.
Posted by: troyriser at November 20, 2015 04:11 PM (UWlp+)
488
Had a chance to talk with a guy I know who is a Muslim. He is in the legal profession. He's a nice guy and always seems pretty level headed. He is convinced the government is getting ready to put Muslims into camps. Plus he pulled out the racism card. I never would have expected it. There was no way to have a reasoned discussion.
Posted by: WOPR at November 20, 2015 04:11 PM (LTDSy)
489
462 well its number one with me
and the others, regardless of what they SAY there policy is, have acted differently
By that token, why is Trump considered any different when he has hired illegal aliens to build his hotels? He also criticized Romney's 2012 immigration plan as being too harsh.
"At Trump hotel site, immigrant workers wary"- http://wapo.st/1S9CCJY
"Donald Trump Calls 'Self-Deportation' Idea 'Maniacal'"- abcn.ws/1ZZVNv5
and the others, regardless of what they SAY there policy is, have acted differently
By that token, why is Trump considered any different when he has hired illegal aliens to build his hotels? He also criticized Romney's 2012 immigration plan as being too harsh.
"At Trump hotel site, immigrant workers wary"- http://wapo.st/1S9CCJY
"Donald Trump Calls 'Self-Deportation' Idea 'Maniacal'"- abcn.ws/1ZZVNv5
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 04:11 PM (YjDyJ)
490
And Trump fights back (from the podcast dull thread)...
saw this on Ace's twitter
Donald J. Trump
Can you believe the worst Mayor in the U.S., & probably the worst Mayor in the history of #NYC, @BilldeBlasio, just called me a blow hard!
hah
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
saw this on Ace's twitter
Donald J. Trump
Can you believe the worst Mayor in the U.S., & probably the worst Mayor in the history of #NYC, @BilldeBlasio, just called me a blow hard!
hah
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2015 04:12 PM (xodPA)
491
@483
Yes. At a certain point, you have to go with unappetizing over loathesome.
Yes. At a certain point, you have to go with unappetizing over loathesome.
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at November 20, 2015 04:13 PM (k8tEg)
492
485 Also, is it really out of line for Rubio to attack Trump?
They are competitors, after all.
Posted by: Harun at November 20, 2015 04:10 PM (UBBWX)
Yes. Absolutely. Compete on your virtues, not on the other guys' vices. All of the shit they're stirring now will be used against the eventual candidate.
Keep your eye on the ball. This is an important election, and ANY of the GOP candidates would be better than Her Thighness or the deranged socialist, IMO.
They are competitors, after all.
Posted by: Harun at November 20, 2015 04:10 PM (UBBWX)
Yes. Absolutely. Compete on your virtues, not on the other guys' vices. All of the shit they're stirring now will be used against the eventual candidate.
Keep your eye on the ball. This is an important election, and ANY of the GOP candidates would be better than Her Thighness or the deranged socialist, IMO.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 20, 2015 04:13 PM (oKE6c)
493
351 Posted by: petunia at November 20, 2015 03:32 PM (VoCyE)
Why is beating Hillary by any means possible so important to you?
Does it have to do with your tribal identification as a "republican"?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:34 PM (AkOaV)
Yep.
Because I've looked at what the Democrats are pushing.
And it is a LIE there is no difference between the parties.
The Democrats are not even hiding their preference to Socialism and Communism anymore, they want to end Capitalism, they are trying to move us on what they see as an evolutionary track to the perfection of Socialism then Communism.
There has never been a more black and white election... bad choice of words maybe, but the parties are complete and utter opposites.
Republicans are Capitalism... as it always has been in America tempered with safety nets...not socialism... normal common sense safety nets...
Democrats have given up on Capitalism and they want some kind of social justice that means Totalitarian Socialism/Communism and a complete refutation of our Constitution.
Anyone using the old saw that the parties are the same is a Democrat, Communist. Because if you believe that they win.
It is a lie.
If you want any freedom at all in the future we must defeat Hillary. The corruption that is the media want Communism for some stupid reason too.
There isn't a whisper of difference between Republicans when you see the options clearly.
It is freedom or slavery. Those are the options.
Why is beating Hillary by any means possible so important to you?
Does it have to do with your tribal identification as a "republican"?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 03:34 PM (AkOaV)
Yep.
Because I've looked at what the Democrats are pushing.
And it is a LIE there is no difference between the parties.
The Democrats are not even hiding their preference to Socialism and Communism anymore, they want to end Capitalism, they are trying to move us on what they see as an evolutionary track to the perfection of Socialism then Communism.
There has never been a more black and white election... bad choice of words maybe, but the parties are complete and utter opposites.
Republicans are Capitalism... as it always has been in America tempered with safety nets...not socialism... normal common sense safety nets...
Democrats have given up on Capitalism and they want some kind of social justice that means Totalitarian Socialism/Communism and a complete refutation of our Constitution.
Anyone using the old saw that the parties are the same is a Democrat, Communist. Because if you believe that they win.
It is a lie.
If you want any freedom at all in the future we must defeat Hillary. The corruption that is the media want Communism for some stupid reason too.
There isn't a whisper of difference between Republicans when you see the options clearly.
It is freedom or slavery. Those are the options.
Posted by: petunia at November 20, 2015 04:14 PM (VoCyE)
494
Twitter is just a vice. As is facebook, instagram, tinder and every other social "media." They are all vices.
Someday we'll look back on them all with the distaste they deserve.
Someday we'll look back on them all with the distaste they deserve.
Posted by: dziki at November 20, 2015 04:14 PM (JeNJK)
495
Trump recently came out in support of single-payer healthcare aka socialized medicine.
Posted by: troyriser at November 20, 2015 04:11 PM (UWlp+)
No, he did not. He said that he USED to support it and thought that the Canadian system was way cool (which is pretty bad, but doesn't really mean much) but that he didn't think it would work here, any more.
It's not a rousing defense of his notion of the Constitutional bounds on the feral government prohibiting the idea of single-payer, here, but he most certainly did not come out endorsing it - quite the opposite (though for non-Constitutional reasons).
Posted by: troyriser at November 20, 2015 04:11 PM (UWlp+)
No, he did not. He said that he USED to support it and thought that the Canadian system was way cool (which is pretty bad, but doesn't really mean much) but that he didn't think it would work here, any more.
It's not a rousing defense of his notion of the Constitutional bounds on the feral government prohibiting the idea of single-payer, here, but he most certainly did not come out endorsing it - quite the opposite (though for non-Constitutional reasons).
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 20, 2015 04:15 PM (zc3Db)
496
488 Had a chance to talk with a guy I know who is a Muslim. He is in the legal profession. He's a nice guy and always seems pretty level headed. He is convinced the government is getting ready to put Muslims into camps. Plus he pulled out the racism card. I never would have expected it. There was no way to have a reasoned discussion.
Posted by: WOPR at November 20, 2015 04:11 PM (LTDSy)
He thinks this government is ready to put Muslims into camps? Really? Then it's high time to head on back home.
NB: everybody's reasonable, until they aren't.
Posted by: WOPR at November 20, 2015 04:11 PM (LTDSy)
He thinks this government is ready to put Muslims into camps? Really? Then it's high time to head on back home.
NB: everybody's reasonable, until they aren't.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 20, 2015 04:15 PM (oKE6c)
497
I see Sid Blumenthal is back making comments. Shame Obama has his girlfriend on a shock collar with one hand, the DOJ on speed dial with the other hand.
Dude, your trolling is so transparent.
Dude, your trolling is so transparent.
Posted by: se pa moron at November 20, 2015 04:15 PM (7v/r5)
498
Republicans are Capitalism...
Posted by: petunia at November 20, 2015 04:14 PM (VoCyE)
pfft, okay.
I remember them steadfastly defending free markets by voting against TARP, the GM bailouts, and the god damn export-import bank.
Oh no, that's right, i don't. I remember them voting FOR all of those things.
Posted by: petunia at November 20, 2015 04:14 PM (VoCyE)
pfft, okay.
I remember them steadfastly defending free markets by voting against TARP, the GM bailouts, and the god damn export-import bank.
Oh no, that's right, i don't. I remember them voting FOR all of those things.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 04:16 PM (AkOaV)
499
Sorry, Mew Mew, I thought you were bringing up Romney beating Obama in the polls, to show that Trump might beat Clinton in the election, despite losing in the polls.
I didn't realize that you were just saying: Whoever the Rs nominate, we lose. And if that's the case, I guess any opinion you might offer on who the Republican nominee should be, should be considered the opinion of someone who's already given up.
So any concern you might have about Rubio? Duly noted, dude, duly noted.
I didn't realize that you were just saying: Whoever the Rs nominate, we lose. And if that's the case, I guess any opinion you might offer on who the Republican nominee should be, should be considered the opinion of someone who's already given up.
So any concern you might have about Rubio? Duly noted, dude, duly noted.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 04:18 PM (LqrRo)
500
480 Illegals are not part of "immigration" and none of the other candidates are even in the same universe as Trump when it comes to dealing with illegals. Not even the same universe.
My recollection is that Trump made his most recent comments regarding the legalization of illegal aliens at the last debate. Furthermore, his comments about grape-pickers were made only yesterday. He has also contradicted himself on the issue much like he has done with many others.
"Merit-based migrants: Is Donald Trump softening on illegal immigration? (+video)"- http://bit.ly/1l9XCVT
"Trump: I Would Give Non-Criminal Illegal Aliens Legal Status"- http://nws.mx/1l9XTs8
My recollection is that Trump made his most recent comments regarding the legalization of illegal aliens at the last debate. Furthermore, his comments about grape-pickers were made only yesterday. He has also contradicted himself on the issue much like he has done with many others.
"Merit-based migrants: Is Donald Trump softening on illegal immigration? (+video)"- http://bit.ly/1l9XCVT
"Trump: I Would Give Non-Criminal Illegal Aliens Legal Status"- http://nws.mx/1l9XTs8
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 04:18 PM (YjDyJ)
501
485 Also, is it really out of line for Rubio to attack Trump?
They are competitors, after all.
Posted by: Harun at November 20, 2015 04:10 PM (UBBWX)
True. Only the accusation was that Rubio supporters attacked Trump.
In other words, don't hold Trump accountable for what he didn't say, but was slow to correct.
But DO hold Rubio accountable for what he didn't say, and hasn't corrected, probably because he didn't even know it happened.
It's logic see.
They are competitors, after all.
Posted by: Harun at November 20, 2015 04:10 PM (UBBWX)
True. Only the accusation was that Rubio supporters attacked Trump.
In other words, don't hold Trump accountable for what he didn't say, but was slow to correct.
But DO hold Rubio accountable for what he didn't say, and hasn't corrected, probably because he didn't even know it happened.
It's logic see.
Posted by: petunia at November 20, 2015 04:18 PM (VoCyE)
502
I remember them steadfastly defending free markets by voting against TARP, the GM bailouts, and the god damn export-import bank.
Oh no, that's right, i don't. I remember them voting FOR all of those things.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 04:16 PM (AkOaV)
______
Don't forget the Ex-Im Bank and TPP
Oh no, that's right, i don't. I remember them voting FOR all of those things.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 04:16 PM (AkOaV)
______
Don't forget the Ex-Im Bank and TPP
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 04:18 PM (0LHZx)
503
LMFAO.......If fat ass Hillary wins the Secret Service shoot, they hate her.
Posted by: Can I Start Shooting Now? at November 20, 2015 04:19 PM (2xbUR)
504
LOL not Ex-Im which you said. Funny how you can type something that was totally not meant to be typed.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 04:19 PM (0LHZx)
505
Don't forget the Ex-Im Bank and TPP
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 04:18 PM (0LHZx)
I didn't forget the ex-im bank.
TPP I didn't feel like getting in to an argument over.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 04:18 PM (0LHZx)
I didn't forget the ex-im bank.
TPP I didn't feel like getting in to an argument over.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 04:19 PM (AkOaV)
506
I remember them steadfastly defending free markets by voting against TARP, the GM bailouts, and the god damn export-import bank.
Oh no, that's right, i don't. I remember them voting FOR all of those things.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 04:16 PM (AkOaV)
Still not socialism.
No matter what you disagree on the Republicans are not Socialists/Communists. Everything they support is well within the historic swings of normal everyday American politics.
But that isn't what is happening on the left.
Oh no, that's right, i don't. I remember them voting FOR all of those things.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 04:16 PM (AkOaV)
Still not socialism.
No matter what you disagree on the Republicans are not Socialists/Communists. Everything they support is well within the historic swings of normal everyday American politics.
But that isn't what is happening on the left.
Posted by: petunia at November 20, 2015 04:21 PM (VoCyE)
507
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Trump has the GOPe
Dr. Venture has the Monarch
Heinz Doofenshmirz has Perry the Platypus
It is the Law of the Universe.
I applaud your analogical choices sir, well done.
Trump has the GOPe
Dr. Venture has the Monarch
Heinz Doofenshmirz has Perry the Platypus
It is the Law of the Universe.
I applaud your analogical choices sir, well done.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at November 20, 2015 04:21 PM (gcyc4)
508
I approve of this top post.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at November 20, 2015 04:21 PM (MbrzC)
509
499 Sorry, Mew Mew, I thought you were bringing up Romney beating Obama in the polls, to show that Trump might beat Clinton in the election, despite losing in the polls.
I didn't realize that you were just saying: Whoever the Rs nominate, we lose. And if that's the case, I guess any opinion you might offer on who the Republican nominee should be, should be considered the opinion of someone who's already given up.
So any concern you might have about Rubio? Duly noted, dude, duly noted.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 04:18 PM (LqrRo)
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My poit about polls is that at this time in 2007 and 2011, McCain and Romney were both beating Obama in the polls. And those polls were used by the GOPe to tell us that McCain and Romney were both "ELECTABLE" and they must be nominated.
And the exact same thing is now happening with Rubio. It's a year out, we have some meaningless polls showing Rubio beating Hillary and the same argument is being made by the GOPe....Rubio is "ELECTABLE" and must be the nominee.
I didn't realize that you were just saying: Whoever the Rs nominate, we lose. And if that's the case, I guess any opinion you might offer on who the Republican nominee should be, should be considered the opinion of someone who's already given up.
So any concern you might have about Rubio? Duly noted, dude, duly noted.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 04:18 PM (LqrRo)
_______
My poit about polls is that at this time in 2007 and 2011, McCain and Romney were both beating Obama in the polls. And those polls were used by the GOPe to tell us that McCain and Romney were both "ELECTABLE" and they must be nominated.
And the exact same thing is now happening with Rubio. It's a year out, we have some meaningless polls showing Rubio beating Hillary and the same argument is being made by the GOPe....Rubio is "ELECTABLE" and must be the nominee.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 04:22 PM (0LHZx)
510
"312---Again, look at the data.
CO: Romney won whites 54 to 44
NV: Romney won whites 56 to 43
VA: Romney won whites 61 to 37
CA: Romney won whites 53 to 44
And yet he lost all of these states. Now why do you suppose that is?"
Where do these stats come from? Is it 54% white - voters who showed up?
If there are a million whites but only 1000 show up to vote then the statistic is useless.
The overall number of whites who show up to vote has continuously dropped. There is a reason for that.
It used to be that the number of voters who actually showed up to vote matched the percentages of people who would have voted a certain way had they showed up.
Meaning 52% of whites show up to vote. If those how had not shown up to vote had voted the statistic would also be 52% because those who showed up correctly represented those who didn't.
Since the overall number of whites showing up to vote has dropped, it's not representative any longer.
CO: Romney won whites 54 to 44
NV: Romney won whites 56 to 43
VA: Romney won whites 61 to 37
CA: Romney won whites 53 to 44
And yet he lost all of these states. Now why do you suppose that is?"
Where do these stats come from? Is it 54% white - voters who showed up?
If there are a million whites but only 1000 show up to vote then the statistic is useless.
The overall number of whites who show up to vote has continuously dropped. There is a reason for that.
It used to be that the number of voters who actually showed up to vote matched the percentages of people who would have voted a certain way had they showed up.
Meaning 52% of whites show up to vote. If those how had not shown up to vote had voted the statistic would also be 52% because those who showed up correctly represented those who didn't.
Since the overall number of whites showing up to vote has dropped, it's not representative any longer.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at November 20, 2015 04:22 PM (C+Q5F)
511
492 485 Also, is it really out of line for Rubio to attack Trump?
They are competitors, after all.
Posted by: Harun at November 20, 2015 04:10 PM (UBBWX)
Yes. Absolutely. Compete on your virtues, not on the other guys' vices. All of the shit they're stirring now will be used against the eventual candidate.
Keep your eye on the ball. This is an important election, and ANY of the GOP candidates would be better than Her Thighness or the deranged socialist, IMO.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 20, 2015 04:13 PM (oKE6c)
-------------
Jeb Bush to the white courtesy phone please.....Mr. Jeb Bush please pick up the white courtesy phone. Sir, someone wants to talk to you about all those PAC-money ads you're currently running against Trump in New Hampshire.
They are competitors, after all.
Posted by: Harun at November 20, 2015 04:10 PM (UBBWX)
Yes. Absolutely. Compete on your virtues, not on the other guys' vices. All of the shit they're stirring now will be used against the eventual candidate.
Keep your eye on the ball. This is an important election, and ANY of the GOP candidates would be better than Her Thighness or the deranged socialist, IMO.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 20, 2015 04:13 PM (oKE6c)
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Jeb Bush to the white courtesy phone please.....Mr. Jeb Bush please pick up the white courtesy phone. Sir, someone wants to talk to you about all those PAC-money ads you're currently running against Trump in New Hampshire.
Posted by: Stay out da bushes at November 20, 2015 04:22 PM (yioUz)
512
Still not socialism.
I beg to differ. It's exactly what real world socialism is. Look at Europe.
I beg to differ. It's exactly what real world socialism is. Look at Europe.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 04:22 PM (evdj2)
513
No matter what you disagree on the Republicans are not Socialists/Communists. Everything they support is well within the historic swings of normal everyday American politics.
But that isn't what is happening on the left.
Posted by: petunia at November 20, 2015 04:21 PM (VoCyE)
________
You're right Reps aren't outright communists. They're corporatists. Not much of a difference in the end.
But that isn't what is happening on the left.
Posted by: petunia at November 20, 2015 04:21 PM (VoCyE)
________
You're right Reps aren't outright communists. They're corporatists. Not much of a difference in the end.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 04:23 PM (0LHZx)
514
Still not socialism.
No matter what you disagree on the Republicans are not Socialists/Communists. Everything they support is well within the historic swings of normal everyday American politics.
But that isn't what is happening on the left.
Posted by: petunia at November 20, 2015 04:21 PM (VoCyE)
They believe in socialism to the same extent that the Dem politicians do: they love the idea of big government (more money and corruption for them and theirs) and they love the idea of redistributing wealth from one person to another (more power and corruption for them and theirs.)
Ideologically, there is not really a difference there.
now there are a lot of "true believer" socialists in the Dem base which is a difference, but as far as true believer socialist politicians? Eh, their actions speak louder than words.
I guess what you need to wrap your head around is this: politicians are not ideologues. They are people who won a popularity contest to get to DC and become as influential and wealthy as possible.
No matter what you disagree on the Republicans are not Socialists/Communists. Everything they support is well within the historic swings of normal everyday American politics.
But that isn't what is happening on the left.
Posted by: petunia at November 20, 2015 04:21 PM (VoCyE)
They believe in socialism to the same extent that the Dem politicians do: they love the idea of big government (more money and corruption for them and theirs) and they love the idea of redistributing wealth from one person to another (more power and corruption for them and theirs.)
Ideologically, there is not really a difference there.
now there are a lot of "true believer" socialists in the Dem base which is a difference, but as far as true believer socialist politicians? Eh, their actions speak louder than words.
I guess what you need to wrap your head around is this: politicians are not ideologues. They are people who won a popularity contest to get to DC and become as influential and wealthy as possible.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 04:24 PM (AkOaV)
515
He thinks this government is ready to put Muslims into camps? Really? Then it's high time to head on back home.
NB: everybody's reasonable, until they aren't.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 20, 2015 04:15 PM (oKE6c)
This is why the modern world blows chunks.
Everyone, and I mean everyone, is a farking, turn-it-up-to-eleven drama queen.
If he really believed that, really believed that, he would be taking the Hummus Express to the Middle East-
regardless of whether he was born here or not. Becuz his crazy-ass death cult is so important to him.
Same with BLM- they should be on the first boat to Africa or Haiti or wherever Blacks run the show-
if this is such a deadly racist country.
That's the reason there's even an America- pilgrims didn't like the discrimination in their country so they went elsewhere.
Nut-up lameasses! If you really hate America,
go elsewhere.
I'm sure they will be thrilled to have such a special snowflake as yourself.
NB: everybody's reasonable, until they aren't.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 20, 2015 04:15 PM (oKE6c)
This is why the modern world blows chunks.
Everyone, and I mean everyone, is a farking, turn-it-up-to-eleven drama queen.
If he really believed that, really believed that, he would be taking the Hummus Express to the Middle East-
regardless of whether he was born here or not. Becuz his crazy-ass death cult is so important to him.
Same with BLM- they should be on the first boat to Africa or Haiti or wherever Blacks run the show-
if this is such a deadly racist country.
That's the reason there's even an America- pilgrims didn't like the discrimination in their country so they went elsewhere.
Nut-up lameasses! If you really hate America,
go elsewhere.
I'm sure they will be thrilled to have such a special snowflake as yourself.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 20, 2015 04:25 PM (0cMkb)
516
@503 "LMFAO"....
Are you 12?
Are you 12?
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at November 20, 2015 04:25 PM (k8tEg)
517
Since the overall number of whites showing up to vote has dropped, it's not representative any longer.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at November 20, 2015 04:22 PM (C+Q5F)
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Not true. See the data. Participation rates in presidential elections, have stayed more or less the same for whites since 1980, right around 60%.
http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/demographics
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at November 20, 2015 04:22 PM (C+Q5F)
_________
Not true. See the data. Participation rates in presidential elections, have stayed more or less the same for whites since 1980, right around 60%.
http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/demographics
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 04:25 PM (0LHZx)
518
471 But again, if they're all lying and the substance of what each of them says is just focus group and poll tested to win primaries before they can shake the etch-a-sketch and come up with new substance for the general -- then we're no longer voting on substance, right?
We're just voting on style.
If this primary was actually about the issues and electing politicians with conservative track records, then the most successful conservative governors in the original field (Perry, Walker, and Jindal) would still be in the race. A lot of the support I see for Trump on social media deals with his rhetorical style, not his actual positions, which have a tendency to change with each news cycle (fascist tendencies excepted). Trump obviously favors a strong executive over a weak executive and a strong Congress.
We're just voting on style.
If this primary was actually about the issues and electing politicians with conservative track records, then the most successful conservative governors in the original field (Perry, Walker, and Jindal) would still be in the race. A lot of the support I see for Trump on social media deals with his rhetorical style, not his actual positions, which have a tendency to change with each news cycle (fascist tendencies excepted). Trump obviously favors a strong executive over a weak executive and a strong Congress.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 04:27 PM (YjDyJ)
519
My guy was probably going to be Walker, he's out.
I would have been okay with Perry or Jindal, but they're out and Jindal was always a long shot.
Right now I'm leaning Cruz, but if he goes, #2 is Rubio.
Frankly, if someone is Trump over Rubio, I wish them all the best but we don't really have much to talk to each other about, politically speaking.
I would have been okay with Perry or Jindal, but they're out and Jindal was always a long shot.
Right now I'm leaning Cruz, but if he goes, #2 is Rubio.
Frankly, if someone is Trump over Rubio, I wish them all the best but we don't really have much to talk to each other about, politically speaking.
Posted by: SparcVark at November 20, 2015 04:27 PM (YLLI8)
520
"In other words, don't hold Trump accountable for what he didn't say, but was slow to correct. "
Oh, it's Trumps fault that he was lied about. Got it. He didn't jump up fast enough to correct the lies.
"But DO hold Rubio accountable for what he didn't say, and hasn't corrected, probably because he didn't even know it happened."
Do hold Rubio accountable for being a lying little weasel who only speaks the truth in Spanish to illegals.
Geez. Uniparty. Never again.
Oh, it's Trumps fault that he was lied about. Got it. He didn't jump up fast enough to correct the lies.
"But DO hold Rubio accountable for what he didn't say, and hasn't corrected, probably because he didn't even know it happened."
Do hold Rubio accountable for being a lying little weasel who only speaks the truth in Spanish to illegals.
Geez. Uniparty. Never again.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at November 20, 2015 04:29 PM (C+Q5F)
521
He thinks this government is ready to put Muslims into camps? Really? Then it's high time to head on back home.
NB: everybody's reasonable, until they aren't.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 20, 2015 04:15 PM (oKE6c)
He's not an immigrant. But I was baffled by the statement.
NB: everybody's reasonable, until they aren't.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 20, 2015 04:15 PM (oKE6c)
He's not an immigrant. But I was baffled by the statement.
Posted by: WOPR at November 20, 2015 04:30 PM (LTDSy)
522
Mew Mew, I'd find your slam against R's as "corporatist" much more compelling, were you not supporting a crony capitalist who made his hundreds of millions through the use of eminent domain and the bribery of public officials. Rings a bit hollow.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 04:30 PM (LqrRo)
523
So this "Uniparty" thing -- this is a reference to Univision, Misfortune and Pestilence?
Are some of our candidates too Hispanic, or what?
Are some of our candidates too Hispanic, or what?
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 04:31 PM (LqrRo)
524
89 Gloria Allred is calling the media and getting on her red dress as we speak.
Anyone remember what happened to the suits against Cain?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 20, 2015 02:47 PM (Xo1Rt)
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They went nowhere.
Anyone remember what happened to the suits against Cain?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 20, 2015 02:47 PM (Xo1Rt)
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They went nowhere.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at November 20, 2015 04:33 PM (MbrzC)
525
Maybe some of you have been too focused on attacking Republicans, that you really haven't noticed that Obamacare is the norm for Democrat politics... it isn't an aberration. This is the goal for everything, they do not want to allow anyone to make any choice about anything.
Democrats have decided what is right and wrong for all of us and their goal is to enforce their views in every part of life.
They are not even hiding that anymore.
But you are so focused on watching each tiny deviance a Republican makes... when it is well withing normal perameters and can always be undone if it is wrong.
But what Democrats are doing can't be undone. It is overthrowing our way of life. It is tossing out the Constitution by interpreting it to mean the opposite of what it means.
The scrabbles on the details between Republicans are so small and petty compared to the complete change of what being "American" means that Democrats are working for.
Take the redefinition of the family. That is the kind of change Democrats are working for. What does being a man or woman even mean to a Democrat?
All of this back and forth over tiny things.
Look at the big picture, look at the judges Obama has put on the bench, look at the media control of people's minds.
So what that Trump and Rubio are attacking each other on what are only shades on how much immigration we have?
Neither of them believe Americans have a moral obligation completely open borders. Neither of them say it is racist to protect your family from terrorism. Neither of them say the word "citizen" is racist. Democrats in Seattle have passed a resolution saying that.
This election is not about petty differences among Republicans!
Democrats have decided what is right and wrong for all of us and their goal is to enforce their views in every part of life.
They are not even hiding that anymore.
But you are so focused on watching each tiny deviance a Republican makes... when it is well withing normal perameters and can always be undone if it is wrong.
But what Democrats are doing can't be undone. It is overthrowing our way of life. It is tossing out the Constitution by interpreting it to mean the opposite of what it means.
The scrabbles on the details between Republicans are so small and petty compared to the complete change of what being "American" means that Democrats are working for.
Take the redefinition of the family. That is the kind of change Democrats are working for. What does being a man or woman even mean to a Democrat?
All of this back and forth over tiny things.
Look at the big picture, look at the judges Obama has put on the bench, look at the media control of people's minds.
So what that Trump and Rubio are attacking each other on what are only shades on how much immigration we have?
Neither of them believe Americans have a moral obligation completely open borders. Neither of them say it is racist to protect your family from terrorism. Neither of them say the word "citizen" is racist. Democrats in Seattle have passed a resolution saying that.
This election is not about petty differences among Republicans!
Posted by: petunia at November 20, 2015 04:33 PM (VoCyE)
526
I'm still a Cruz guy, but the gotchas piss me off. Reporters ask or put words in a candidate's mouth then report what the reporter says.
Posted by: Skip at November 20, 2015 04:33 PM (KSdzX)
527
502 Don't forget the Ex-Im Bank and TPP
The Ex-Im bank actually has to be reauthorized by the conference committee, then approved by both bodies. As for TPP, it is unlikely that Congress will vote on it prior to the election, if at all. From what I have recently read, some Republican members of Congress want portions of it changed, which is more likely under a Republican administration than a Democrat one. But we shall see.
The Ex-Im bank actually has to be reauthorized by the conference committee, then approved by both bodies. As for TPP, it is unlikely that Congress will vote on it prior to the election, if at all. From what I have recently read, some Republican members of Congress want portions of it changed, which is more likely under a Republican administration than a Democrat one. But we shall see.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 04:34 PM (YjDyJ)
528
"Trump: I Would Give Non-Criminal Illegal Aliens Legal Status"- http://nws.mx/1l9XTs8
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 04:18 PM (YjDyJ)
So says the title but nowhere in the article is anything like that. No quotes. No nothing.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 04:18 PM (YjDyJ)
So says the title but nowhere in the article is anything like that. No quotes. No nothing.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 20, 2015 04:35 PM (zc3Db)
529
Personally, as a former business executive I realize that perhaps a slim majority of the illegal immigrants in this country may actually be working. Giving them the benefit of the doubt. They perhaps actually perform work at jobs that actual Americans don't want to do. Given all the freebies our benevolent government hands out, it seems entirely plausible that many Americans would rather not get their hands dirty. Okay so far?
So having them perform work that they are comfortable doing doesn't mean they need to be deported. But neither should it provide the benefit of citizenship.
So there's a needle which needs to be threaded. I take Trump's rhetoric as just that. In the end there will be a compromise of sorts. But he is starting from the exactly correct negotiating position. If he had a strong constitutional scholar on the ticket I'd feel more comfortable with him. Because new law needs to be written and old interpretations (anchor babies) need to be clarified or discarded.
There's no one else who can fix the problems with USA, Inc.
So having them perform work that they are comfortable doing doesn't mean they need to be deported. But neither should it provide the benefit of citizenship.
So there's a needle which needs to be threaded. I take Trump's rhetoric as just that. In the end there will be a compromise of sorts. But he is starting from the exactly correct negotiating position. If he had a strong constitutional scholar on the ticket I'd feel more comfortable with him. Because new law needs to be written and old interpretations (anchor babies) need to be clarified or discarded.
There's no one else who can fix the problems with USA, Inc.
Posted by: se pa moron at November 20, 2015 04:36 PM (7v/r5)
530
Not sure what I missed but I fail to see how Trump being unable to deflect a reporter's trap being a Marco Rubio problem.
This is always what happens when people fall for a single issue candidacy like Trump's. They find themselves defending every stupid thing, or alternatively, get upset at other people who think the accumulating piles of stupid matter.
And for what? Immigration is a fringe issue, ranking down with race relations/ Black Lives Matter in terms of importance for 2016, according to Gallup this past summer. There's no way a candidate for prez should be chosen primarily on either issue.
This is always what happens when people fall for a single issue candidacy like Trump's. They find themselves defending every stupid thing, or alternatively, get upset at other people who think the accumulating piles of stupid matter.
And for what? Immigration is a fringe issue, ranking down with race relations/ Black Lives Matter in terms of importance for 2016, according to Gallup this past summer. There's no way a candidate for prez should be chosen primarily on either issue.
Posted by: CausticConservative at November 20, 2015 04:37 PM (5q6rm)
531
120 BTW - Kaisch says that he is going to take down Trump.
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Good luck with that John... you had no short before you'll have even less after your attempt.
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Good luck with that John... you had no short before you'll have even less after your attempt.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at November 20, 2015 04:38 PM (MbrzC)
532
He also ran out the Muslims helped build this country because the slaves were Muslim. At that point I just threw back they were slaves because Muslims sold them as slaves. That got a reply of bad things happened in the past.
This country is going to blow up.
This country is going to blow up.
Posted by: WOPR at November 20, 2015 04:38 PM (LTDSy)
533
522 Mew Mew, I'd find your slam against R's as "corporatist" much more compelling, were you not supporting a crony capitalist who made his hundreds of millions through the use of eminent domain and the bribery of public officials. Rings a bit hollow.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 04:30 PM (LqrRo)
What a strange standard. Trump, as a businessman, should use every legal method to help his business grow.
In our socialist country with a corrupt government, that includes bribes. So he did what he had to do.
But we should judge Trump (the briber) more harshly then we judge politicians (the bribees)?
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 04:30 PM (LqrRo)
What a strange standard. Trump, as a businessman, should use every legal method to help his business grow.
In our socialist country with a corrupt government, that includes bribes. So he did what he had to do.
But we should judge Trump (the briber) more harshly then we judge politicians (the bribees)?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 04:39 PM (AkOaV)
534
TPOP, they don't actually quote Trump saying that word-for-word, because any transcript of anything the man says is indecipherable word salad. But that was the general gist -- some of the illegals are potential murderers and rapists, and he'd somehow determine which of them were, and somehow deport them all; and the remainder "might be good people" or some such bullshit.
I find it remarkable, man's ability to see what he wants to see, even in a Rorschach ink-blot Trump speech.
I find it remarkable, man's ability to see what he wants to see, even in a Rorschach ink-blot Trump speech.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 04:39 PM (LqrRo)
535
It's funny to watch the Rubebot Cultists project their mindless drone behavior onto other candidates. Marco may be a liar and a lightweight but he attracts a, well, dedicated following.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 20, 2015 04:40 PM (pq97T)
536
Can't you see how Democrats are going to make us all slaves because you care about tiny differences? In the scheme of the total transformation of America Democrats plan no difference between Republicans amounts to a hill of beans!
By refusing to vote for the lesser of two evils, evil wins.
No body learns a lesson. Nobody will know better next time, there will be no next time.
Look at the judges and policies Obama has put in place. Look at how he has strengthen the IRS and the NSA and armed the EPA.
Please please don't let us lose our freedom over things like a supporter of Rubio saying some stupid thing about Trump.
Please vote for the lessor of two evils.
By refusing to vote for the lesser of two evils, evil wins.
No body learns a lesson. Nobody will know better next time, there will be no next time.
Look at the judges and policies Obama has put in place. Look at how he has strengthen the IRS and the NSA and armed the EPA.
Please please don't let us lose our freedom over things like a supporter of Rubio saying some stupid thing about Trump.
Please vote for the lessor of two evils.
Posted by: petunia at November 20, 2015 04:41 PM (VoCyE)
537
The Ex-Im bank actually has to be reauthorized by the conference committee, then approved by both bodies. As for TPP, it is unlikely that Congress will vote on it prior to the election, if at all. From what I have recently read, some Republican members of Congress want portions of it changed, which is more likely under a Republican administration than a Democrat one. But we shall see.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 04:34 PM (YjDyJ)
The ex-im bank has existed for, what, 80 years? And the "capitalist" "conservative" "free markets" party has re-authorized it how many times?
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 04:34 PM (YjDyJ)
The ex-im bank has existed for, what, 80 years? And the "capitalist" "conservative" "free markets" party has re-authorized it how many times?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 04:41 PM (AkOaV)
538
128
Kasich will take down Trump by endorsing Hillary in Ohio.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 20, 2015 02:56 PM (ODxAs)
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He should be running against her in the Dem primary, he'd fit better and he'd have a better shot at being the nominee of a party.
Kasich will take down Trump by endorsing Hillary in Ohio.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 20, 2015 02:56 PM (ODxAs)
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He should be running against her in the Dem primary, he'd fit better and he'd have a better shot at being the nominee of a party.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at November 20, 2015 04:41 PM (MbrzC)
539
"Not true. See the data. Participation rates in presidential elections, have stayed more or less the same for whites since 1980, right around 60%."
I don't have time right now to look it all up. I don't have time to vet your link but for the sake of the argument, let's say you are correct, I still say Trump will win the white vote in a landslide....that means crossovers from Democrats.
I don't have time right now to look it all up. I don't have time to vet your link but for the sake of the argument, let's say you are correct, I still say Trump will win the white vote in a landslide....that means crossovers from Democrats.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at November 20, 2015 04:42 PM (C+Q5F)
540
528 So says the title but nowhere in the article is anything like that. No quotes. No nothing.
"Those who are not committing crimes could find legal status under a Trump Administration, he told Dana Bash in comments aired Wednesday on CNN's 'The Situation Room.'"
Video: "Trump's immigration plan: Deport the undocumented, 'legal status' for some"- http://cnn.it/1IqYpWL
"Those who are not committing crimes could find legal status under a Trump Administration, he told Dana Bash in comments aired Wednesday on CNN's 'The Situation Room.'"
Video: "Trump's immigration plan: Deport the undocumented, 'legal status' for some"- http://cnn.it/1IqYpWL
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 04:42 PM (YjDyJ)
541
petunia, you keep on fucking that chicken.
The rest of us are kind of over it. We're not idiots, and if everyone in DC insists on treating us like idiots, we're just going to take our balls and go home.
The rest of us are kind of over it. We're not idiots, and if everyone in DC insists on treating us like idiots, we're just going to take our balls and go home.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 04:42 PM (AkOaV)
542
522 Mew Mew, I'd find your slam against R's as "corporatist" much more compelling, were you not supporting a crony capitalist who made his hundreds of millions through the use of eminent domain and the bribery of public officials. Rings a bit hollow.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 04:30 PM (LqrRo)
___________
Yeah he made all his money because of bribes. Thank you Senator Sanders.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 04:30 PM (LqrRo)
___________
Yeah he made all his money because of bribes. Thank you Senator Sanders.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 04:42 PM (0LHZx)
543
Look, I'm sorry fellas, but Donald Trump is absolutely unacceptable to me. Absolutely unacceptable.
It's a DAMN close call, but I would rather live through four years of the decrepit hag Hillary than suffer the embarrassment of having this ignorant buffoon occupy the Oval Office.
At least Hillary wouldn't get in with votes from people who are supposedly intellectual and well informed.
It's a DAMN close call, but I would rather live through four years of the decrepit hag Hillary than suffer the embarrassment of having this ignorant buffoon occupy the Oval Office.
At least Hillary wouldn't get in with votes from people who are supposedly intellectual and well informed.
Posted by: DRayRaven at November 20, 2015 04:42 PM (Qc2Pk)
544
Posted by: DRayRaven at November 20, 2015 04:42 PM (Qc2Pk)
And that's fine. Feel free to join the millions of us who plan on sitting out 2016.
And that's fine. Feel free to join the millions of us who plan on sitting out 2016.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 04:44 PM (AkOaV)
545
Harry: "Trump, as a businessman, should use every legal method to help his business grow."
I consider myself more constrained by ethics, than by law. Guess I'm an outlier, or a relic. I'm certainly less successful financially than Trump. Or Putin, or Soros.
I don't recall giving a pass to the (Democrat) politicians that received Trump's bribes. Must have been between the lines of my comment.
I consider myself more constrained by ethics, than by law. Guess I'm an outlier, or a relic. I'm certainly less successful financially than Trump. Or Putin, or Soros.
I don't recall giving a pass to the (Democrat) politicians that received Trump's bribes. Must have been between the lines of my comment.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 04:44 PM (LqrRo)
546
The Ex-Im bank actually has to be reauthorized by the conference committee, then approved by both bodies. As for TPP, it is unlikely that Congress will vote on it prior to the election, if at all. From what I have recently read, some Republican members of Congress want portions of it changed, which is more likely under a Republican administration than a Democrat one. But we shall see.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 04:34 PM (YjDyJ)
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The damning thing about TPP for me isn't the TPP itself. It's the fact Obama fought like hell for it and the GOP did everything they could to help him, while at the same time fighting like hell AGAINST the tea party.
Shows you all you need to know about where the GOP is these days.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 04:34 PM (YjDyJ)
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The damning thing about TPP for me isn't the TPP itself. It's the fact Obama fought like hell for it and the GOP did everything they could to help him, while at the same time fighting like hell AGAINST the tea party.
Shows you all you need to know about where the GOP is these days.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 04:44 PM (0LHZx)
547
I consider myself more constrained by ethics, than by law. Guess I'm an outlier, or a relic. I'm certainly less successful financially than Trump. Or Putin, or Soros.
I don't recall giving a pass to the (Democrat) politicians that received Trump's bribes. Must have been between the lines of my comment.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 04:44 PM (LqrRo)
Well, I would consider you fired and tied up in civil court for fraud if I was an investor in your business and you chose to take a "moral high ground" and lose millions of my dollars.
To each his own though.
I assume you take no deductions on your taxes either, right? Or do you not support a flat or fair tax?
I don't recall giving a pass to the (Democrat) politicians that received Trump's bribes. Must have been between the lines of my comment.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 04:44 PM (LqrRo)
Well, I would consider you fired and tied up in civil court for fraud if I was an investor in your business and you chose to take a "moral high ground" and lose millions of my dollars.
To each his own though.
I assume you take no deductions on your taxes either, right? Or do you not support a flat or fair tax?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 04:45 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Dan Rather at November 20, 2015 04:46 PM (sgrzZ)
549
"Trump's immigration plan: Deport the undocumented, 'legal status' for some"- http://cnn.it/1IqYpWL
"Trump said Wednesday in an interview with CNN's Dana Bash that as president he would deport all undocumented immigrants and then allow 'the good ones' to reenter the country through an 'expedited process' and live in the US legally, though not as citizens.
'Legal status,' Trump suggested. 'We got to move 'em out, we're going to move 'em back in if they're really good people.'"
He mentioned grape pickers in this interview as well.
"Trump said Wednesday in an interview with CNN's Dana Bash that as president he would deport all undocumented immigrants and then allow 'the good ones' to reenter the country through an 'expedited process' and live in the US legally, though not as citizens.
'Legal status,' Trump suggested. 'We got to move 'em out, we're going to move 'em back in if they're really good people.'"
He mentioned grape pickers in this interview as well.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 04:46 PM (YjDyJ)
550
"And for what? Immigration is a fringe issue, ranking down with race"
Snicker. Yeah, we are all just one issue voters and immigration is a fringe issue. Haha. You're killing me here. Snort.
Snicker. Yeah, we are all just one issue voters and immigration is a fringe issue. Haha. You're killing me here. Snort.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at November 20, 2015 04:46 PM (C+Q5F)
551
And pols of both parties have taken Trumps money and everyone elses money too.
Trump just happened to do most of his business in NY / NJ / CT where there aren't too many R's around to bribe.
Trump just happened to do most of his business in NY / NJ / CT where there aren't too many R's around to bribe.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 04:46 PM (AkOaV)
552
Trump is a real estate developer in NYC. If you think any developer in NYC can run a business without cozying up to Democrats you're a fool.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 04:47 PM (0LHZx)
553
but no
they know better
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:01 PM (zOTsN)
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No, they are in on it.
they know better
Posted by: ThunderB at November 20, 2015 03:01 PM (zOTsN)
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No, they are in on it.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at November 20, 2015 04:47 PM (MbrzC)
554
He also ran out the Muslims helped build this country because the slaves were Muslim. At that point I just threw back they were slaves because Muslims sold them as slaves. That got a reply of bad things happened in the past.
This country is going to blow up.
Posted by: WOPR at November 20, 2015 04:38 PM (LTDSy)
That's basically not true.
Before slavery, most of the tribes were Animist.
The muslims ran the slave trade through Timbuktu.
I'm sure a lot of the conversion to islam was a self-defense against enslavement by muslims.
This country is going to blow up.
Posted by: WOPR at November 20, 2015 04:38 PM (LTDSy)
That's basically not true.
Before slavery, most of the tribes were Animist.
The muslims ran the slave trade through Timbuktu.
I'm sure a lot of the conversion to islam was a self-defense against enslavement by muslims.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 20, 2015 04:47 PM (0cMkb)
555
If you think someone who contributed to Democrats, espoused Democrat positions, and endorsed Democrat candidates right up until a few months ago is a Republican, and not only that, but a conservative Republican, you're a fool.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 04:50 PM (LqrRo)
556
Trump's political contributions listed in my sock.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 20, 2015 04:51 PM (xodPA)
557
537 The ex-im bank has existed for, what, 80 years? And the "capitalist" "conservative" "free markets" party has re-authorized it how many times?
The reason Ex-Im came back into the picture was because of a discharge petition by Rep. Stephen Fincher. If you look at the roll call vote, the Rs were divided (http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2015/roll576.xml).
The reason Ex-Im came back into the picture was because of a discharge petition by Rep. Stephen Fincher. If you look at the roll call vote, the Rs were divided (http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2015/roll576.xml).
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 04:52 PM (YjDyJ)
558
Mew Mew,
You are entitled to your own opinion but frankly your doom and gloom repetition is tiresome and probably not correct.
Look up Sean Trende and what he has published. I prepared a longer post but frankly most people don't want to read it but what you say is not true historically nor involves distortion of political science research regarding American voters and realignment theory. I can also speak that your position is shaky in comparative elections research in Europe and Latin America as well.
BTW, my qualification are as a tenured professor in political science who worked as a numbers guy for a S. Dem congresscritter during 6 House elections. I also have published research fwiw in this area and had instructors that were top in their field regarding presidential and congressional elections. I also had to take comprehensive exams of which several of the questions in the American Politics field dealt with using historical voting data to answer questions about realignment, predictions in presidential elections, and the like. This is to persuade you not that I am correct, but that I am qualified to judge the work of some one else.
Michael Barone used to be the dean of empirical elections but currently the best ones outside of academia out there are Sean Trende and Jay Cost (although Jay's stuff recently has been less quantitative). Nate Silver is also pretty good at the presidential level as long as adequate polling data still holds (which is increasingly in trouble btw).
Now, most models that have accurately predicted presidential elections include incumbency (not a factor here), economic data such as unemployment and gdp (don't have 2016 data yet), events (think wars, terrorist attacks, policy disasters), candidate attributes, and the makeup of the electorate and their propensity to turn out and vote in a predictable way. You are focusing on one variable which is demographics to predict doom--it does not simply work that way for accurate predictions. Do your homework and then comment.
You are entitled to your own opinion but frankly your doom and gloom repetition is tiresome and probably not correct.
Look up Sean Trende and what he has published. I prepared a longer post but frankly most people don't want to read it but what you say is not true historically nor involves distortion of political science research regarding American voters and realignment theory. I can also speak that your position is shaky in comparative elections research in Europe and Latin America as well.
BTW, my qualification are as a tenured professor in political science who worked as a numbers guy for a S. Dem congresscritter during 6 House elections. I also have published research fwiw in this area and had instructors that were top in their field regarding presidential and congressional elections. I also had to take comprehensive exams of which several of the questions in the American Politics field dealt with using historical voting data to answer questions about realignment, predictions in presidential elections, and the like. This is to persuade you not that I am correct, but that I am qualified to judge the work of some one else.
Michael Barone used to be the dean of empirical elections but currently the best ones outside of academia out there are Sean Trende and Jay Cost (although Jay's stuff recently has been less quantitative). Nate Silver is also pretty good at the presidential level as long as adequate polling data still holds (which is increasingly in trouble btw).
Now, most models that have accurately predicted presidential elections include incumbency (not a factor here), economic data such as unemployment and gdp (don't have 2016 data yet), events (think wars, terrorist attacks, policy disasters), candidate attributes, and the makeup of the electorate and their propensity to turn out and vote in a predictable way. You are focusing on one variable which is demographics to predict doom--it does not simply work that way for accurate predictions. Do your homework and then comment.
Posted by: wg at November 20, 2015 04:52 PM (riCJ2)
559
"When I saw the hub-bub about this I rolled my eyes because it is so OBVIOUS to anyone who READ the interview."
Me too.
"But, even CRUZ fell for the media lie! Cruz was out there criticizing Trump today.
Cruz -- by his own admission -- fell for McConnell's lies. Now he's fallen for the media's lies. He gets fooled awfully easily. And he voted for TPA (but not TPP so he could "keep his hands clean" and fool his constituents). Cruz is not only in my doghouse but I don't even want him as VP anymore. Plus his wife's a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and works for Goldman Sachs. No thanks. No more NWO Wall Street types."
Yep. He's another 40 year old Cuban who hasn't even finished one term in the Senate but wants to be President. Maybe he should try Canada where he is actually eligible.
Me too.
"But, even CRUZ fell for the media lie! Cruz was out there criticizing Trump today.
Cruz -- by his own admission -- fell for McConnell's lies. Now he's fallen for the media's lies. He gets fooled awfully easily. And he voted for TPA (but not TPP so he could "keep his hands clean" and fool his constituents). Cruz is not only in my doghouse but I don't even want him as VP anymore. Plus his wife's a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and works for Goldman Sachs. No thanks. No more NWO Wall Street types."
Yep. He's another 40 year old Cuban who hasn't even finished one term in the Senate but wants to be President. Maybe he should try Canada where he is actually eligible.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at November 20, 2015 04:53 PM (C+Q5F)
560
541 petunia, you keep on fucking that chicken.
The rest of us are kind of over it. We're not idiots, and if everyone in DC insists on treating us like idiots, we're just going to take our balls and go home.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 04:42 PM (AkOaV)
But you are idiots.
No candidate is really acceptable to everyone, everyone has to given in on things.
But nothing on the Republican side is out of the normal of what has been done in America before. It is all variations on a theme.
But what Democrats are doing is completely different since Obama won. They really have gone into our government and our culture and made drastic changes if we keep pretending it didn't happen... we will be pampered little sefs to the big fat behemoth government.
And that will happen because so many refuse to open their eyes and see that the world has changed.
These arguments are petty. They are distractions to keep us from noticing that our freedom is being stolen out from under us by the Communists.
And you know who started this whole argument in this thread? The media. They set up Trump so he couldn't win, they knew his competitors would go after him, that was the point.
So Rubio supporters took the bait. So what? None of it has any lasting effect on anything. Other than make people harden themselves, get so fed up they stay home instead of beating Hillary.
That is how they have been able to destroy our culture. It is strategy. And it only works if you agree to help them make it work.
The rest of us are kind of over it. We're not idiots, and if everyone in DC insists on treating us like idiots, we're just going to take our balls and go home.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 04:42 PM (AkOaV)
But you are idiots.
No candidate is really acceptable to everyone, everyone has to given in on things.
But nothing on the Republican side is out of the normal of what has been done in America before. It is all variations on a theme.
But what Democrats are doing is completely different since Obama won. They really have gone into our government and our culture and made drastic changes if we keep pretending it didn't happen... we will be pampered little sefs to the big fat behemoth government.
And that will happen because so many refuse to open their eyes and see that the world has changed.
These arguments are petty. They are distractions to keep us from noticing that our freedom is being stolen out from under us by the Communists.
And you know who started this whole argument in this thread? The media. They set up Trump so he couldn't win, they knew his competitors would go after him, that was the point.
So Rubio supporters took the bait. So what? None of it has any lasting effect on anything. Other than make people harden themselves, get so fed up they stay home instead of beating Hillary.
That is how they have been able to destroy our culture. It is strategy. And it only works if you agree to help them make it work.
Posted by: petunia at November 20, 2015 04:54 PM (VoCyE)
561
Rachel Maddow blew his spooge all into his underpants last night as he was reporting this.
Posted by: aquaviva at November 20, 2015 04:55 PM (M0TPG)
562
543 Look, I'm sorry fellas, but Donald Trump is absolutely unacceptable to me. Absolutely unacceptable.
It's a DAMN close call, but I would rather live through four years of the decrepit hag Hillary than suffer the embarrassment of having this ignorant buffoon occupy the Oval Office.
At least Hillary wouldn't get in with votes from people who are supposedly intellectual and well informed.
Posted by: DRayRaven at November 20, 2015 04:42 PM (Qc2Pk)
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I hate Trump but I'll vote for him if need be.
There are a lot of Illegal Immigration single issue voters who say they'll stay home because their is no bigger issue....They're absolutely wrong.
SCOTUS is the biggest issue. It's that simple. You let Hillary win with an opportunity to appoint 2 - 4 justices? We, as a Constitutional Republic, are done.
It's a DAMN close call, but I would rather live through four years of the decrepit hag Hillary than suffer the embarrassment of having this ignorant buffoon occupy the Oval Office.
At least Hillary wouldn't get in with votes from people who are supposedly intellectual and well informed.
Posted by: DRayRaven at November 20, 2015 04:42 PM (Qc2Pk)
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I hate Trump but I'll vote for him if need be.
There are a lot of Illegal Immigration single issue voters who say they'll stay home because their is no bigger issue....They're absolutely wrong.
SCOTUS is the biggest issue. It's that simple. You let Hillary win with an opportunity to appoint 2 - 4 justices? We, as a Constitutional Republic, are done.
Posted by: WisRich at November 20, 2015 04:57 PM (hdpay)
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543--- Posted by: DRayRaven at November 20, 2015 04:42 PM (Qc2Pk)
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Hillary? The most corrupt, dishonest, paranoid, CRIMINAL politician out there? The woman who had hundreds of FBI files of her "enemies"
miraculously "found" in her personal quarters of the WH?
The woman who, caring not one whit about what secrets our foreign adversaries might get, used a personal server so she could hide her business from Congress and FOIA requests?
The lying Benghazi b*tch?
And I could go on and on and on and on.
I would vote for Daffy Duck, Bernie Sanders, the Ayatollah Khameni, ANYONE, over her.
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Hillary? The most corrupt, dishonest, paranoid, CRIMINAL politician out there? The woman who had hundreds of FBI files of her "enemies"
miraculously "found" in her personal quarters of the WH?
The woman who, caring not one whit about what secrets our foreign adversaries might get, used a personal server so she could hide her business from Congress and FOIA requests?
The lying Benghazi b*tch?
And I could go on and on and on and on.
I would vote for Daffy Duck, Bernie Sanders, the Ayatollah Khameni, ANYONE, over her.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2015 04:57 PM (T/5A0)
564
555
If you think someone who contributed to Democrats, espoused Democrat
positions, and endorsed Democrat candidates right up until a few months
ago is a Republican, and not only that, but a conservative Republican,
you're a fool.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 04:50 PM (LqrRo)
Talking about Ben Carson? He voted for Obama and was not a registered GOP until just last week. Oh, and his longtime adviser also voted for Obama and wants Farrakahn to get tax money.
If you think someone who contributed to Democrats, espoused Democrat
positions, and endorsed Democrat candidates right up until a few months
ago is a Republican, and not only that, but a conservative Republican,
you're a fool.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 20, 2015 04:50 PM (LqrRo)
Talking about Ben Carson? He voted for Obama and was not a registered GOP until just last week. Oh, and his longtime adviser also voted for Obama and wants Farrakahn to get tax money.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 20, 2015 04:58 PM (xetep)
565
You are focusing on one variable which is demographics to predict doom--it does not simply work that way for accurate predictions. Do your homework and then comment.
Posted by: wg at November 20, 2015 04:52 PM (riCJ2)
______
VA whites went 61% for Romney. But the fact he lost the state has nothing to do with demographics.
Sure. Why not?
Posted by: wg at November 20, 2015 04:52 PM (riCJ2)
______
VA whites went 61% for Romney. But the fact he lost the state has nothing to do with demographics.
Sure. Why not?
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 05:02 PM (0LHZx)
566
211 Super PAC supporting Kasich vows to spend 2.5 million taking down Trump.
Posted by: Carol at November 20, 2015 03:10 PM (sj3Ax)
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Sounds fiscally irresponsible.
Posted by: Carol at November 20, 2015 03:10 PM (sj3Ax)
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Sounds fiscally irresponsible.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at November 20, 2015 05:04 PM (MbrzC)
567
Do your homework and then comment. Posted by: wg at November 20, 2015 04:52 PM
Excellent comment on your part.
I don't recognize your nic, but I'd like you to toss your .02 cents into the mix more often. We are being trolled by the hand wringing 'Hillary is inevitable' eeyores too often.
Excellent comment on your part.
I don't recognize your nic, but I'd like you to toss your .02 cents into the mix more often. We are being trolled by the hand wringing 'Hillary is inevitable' eeyores too often.
Posted by: se pa moron at November 20, 2015 05:05 PM (7v/r5)
568
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 20, 2015 04:08 PM (AkOaV)
"Eh, I think the italicized part in parenthesis was not supposed to be included in your typed up talking points.
Because that kind of makes it seem like Rubio still believes in amnesty, but had to shift his views because the voters changed their minds.
Which would be a delusional way to think, and would also expose Rubio as a hack opportunist who is lying to the voters."
Rubio is a politician. He wanted a big policy win on an issue for which there had been healthy, if not overwhelming, GOP support. That he's sympathetic to finding a solution does not equate to supporting amnesty as a matter of principle (and we can debate the extent to which his bill was in fact a grant of Amnesty).
So if my "talking points" didn't sound sufficiently talking-pointy, perhaps it's because they're not. Or perhaps I'm just very, very good.
"Eh, I think the italicized part in parenthesis was not supposed to be included in your typed up talking points.
Because that kind of makes it seem like Rubio still believes in amnesty, but had to shift his views because the voters changed their minds.
Which would be a delusional way to think, and would also expose Rubio as a hack opportunist who is lying to the voters."
Rubio is a politician. He wanted a big policy win on an issue for which there had been healthy, if not overwhelming, GOP support. That he's sympathetic to finding a solution does not equate to supporting amnesty as a matter of principle (and we can debate the extent to which his bill was in fact a grant of Amnesty).
So if my "talking points" didn't sound sufficiently talking-pointy, perhaps it's because they're not. Or perhaps I'm just very, very good.
Posted by: Crispian at November 20, 2015 05:05 PM (n9Zp5)
569
Oh and didn't the great Sean Trend and Jay Cost predict Romney would win Ohio because of early voting patterns? If you look at this county, the % of voters who voted in 2008 vs 2012 is 12% higher than blah blah blah blah and becaue of this we predict a Romney win. Yeah how'd that turn out.
You guys can spin yourselves into a pretzel 10 different ways. The country is getting younger and less white. Young/non-white people don't vote Republican. You don't need a fucking PhD to figure out the trend lines.
You guys can spin yourselves into a pretzel 10 different ways. The country is getting younger and less white. Young/non-white people don't vote Republican. You don't need a fucking PhD to figure out the trend lines.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at November 20, 2015 05:06 PM (0LHZx)
570
We should be supporting Ted Cruz.
Not Rubio. Not at all. No. He reminds me of these guys. Cut a deal. Better yourself. The little guy is on his own.
Not Rubio. Not at all. No. He reminds me of these guys. Cut a deal. Better yourself. The little guy is on his own.
Posted by: Greench at November 20, 2015 05:08 PM (sYX+h)
571
What's with the assumption in Ace's post that anyone calling out Trump as silly and unserious (which he certainly is) must be a stealth Rubio supporter who's only pointing out Trump's insanity as a pro-Rubio play? Hell, almost everyone at AoSHQ thinks Trump is crazy, and only maybe one of them do I suspect is on Team Rubio.
I'd say most of this forum, including the people who mock Trump, is either on Team Cruz or on Team Some Other Guy or Gal Until They Have to Drop Out and Then I Guess Cruz Whatever. If it ever came down to Rubio/Cruz, that's like a 90/10 split for Cruz at this site easily. And if anybody needs to knock out Trump, it's Cruz. I would think people here should want Trump taken down, although the particular sequence of events and media narrative that does so could be consequential to other candidates, so I agree it's better that he crash and burn for reasons unrelated to his signature issue of immigration.
I'd say most of this forum, including the people who mock Trump, is either on Team Cruz or on Team Some Other Guy or Gal Until They Have to Drop Out and Then I Guess Cruz Whatever. If it ever came down to Rubio/Cruz, that's like a 90/10 split for Cruz at this site easily. And if anybody needs to knock out Trump, it's Cruz. I would think people here should want Trump taken down, although the particular sequence of events and media narrative that does so could be consequential to other candidates, so I agree it's better that he crash and burn for reasons unrelated to his signature issue of immigration.
Posted by: cjw at November 20, 2015 05:08 PM (UJ59J)
572
http://www.alun-armstrong.net/images/braveheart6.jpg
Posted by: Greench at November 20, 2015 05:09 PM (sYX+h)
573
Rubio looks more like his dad was Duncan Renaldo.
that was racist wasn't it?
I denounce myself.
Oh, Cisco.
that was racist wasn't it?
I denounce myself.
Oh, Cisco.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 20, 2015 05:09 PM (Xo1Rt)
574
Rubio's the kid who learned the lessons of the street very well.
He gives no thought to whoever may be harmed by his actions. If he needs to do something to advance himself then it's just tough patooties and get out of his way.
And he doesn't understand why anyone is upset about it because he believes everyone else does that too.
And probably a lot do do that but not quite so blatantly and not quite so callously.
He gives no thought to whoever may be harmed by his actions. If he needs to do something to advance himself then it's just tough patooties and get out of his way.
And he doesn't understand why anyone is upset about it because he believes everyone else does that too.
And probably a lot do do that but not quite so blatantly and not quite so callously.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 20, 2015 05:12 PM (Xo1Rt)
575
"Talking about Ben Carson? He voted for Obama and was not a registered GOP until just last week. Oh, and his longtime adviser also voted for Obama and wants Farrakahn to get tax money."
The Carson Campaign is a money making scheme.
Google John Philip Sousa IV, Vernon Robinson, Bruce Eberle, and the NDBCPCC.
Just got called today for money by his campaign. I laughed.
The Carson Campaign is a money making scheme.
Google John Philip Sousa IV, Vernon Robinson, Bruce Eberle, and the NDBCPCC.
Just got called today for money by his campaign. I laughed.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at November 20, 2015 05:13 PM (C+Q5F)
576
And for what? Immigration is a fringe issue, ranking down with race relations/ Black Lives Matter in terms of importance for 2016, according to Gallup this past summer.
Whu?? #2 concern, ahead of Healthcare.
http://is.gd/cIIfHf
Whu?? #2 concern, ahead of Healthcare.
http://is.gd/cIIfHf
Posted by: Grump928(c) at November 20, 2015 05:17 PM (evdj2)
577
"Trump said Wednesday in an interview with CNN's Dana Bash that as president he would deport all undocumented immigrants and then allow 'the good ones' to reenter the country through an 'expedited process' and live in the US legally, though not as citizens.
'Legal status,' Trump suggested. 'We got to move 'em out, we're going to move 'em back in if they're really good people.'"
He mentioned grape pickers in this interview as well.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 04:46 PM (YjDyJ)
And? He is for amnesty - real amnesty, which involves deporting them first. If he wants to forgive their crimes after deporting them then that is a reasonable position - not one I like but a reasonable one. That is true amnesty.
But he is not for giving aid and comfort to illegals by calling off all interior enforcement and printing up residency/citizenships for them. That is not amnesty, that is TREASON and that is what all the other Vichy GOP nominees are into.
Trump wants to deport them. good enough. Perhaps he wants to bring some back, legally. That is a reasonable position to be debated. Don't pretend as if any of the other candidates are anywhere even close to that position. The rest of them are pretty much all for treasonous aid and comfort.
'Legal status,' Trump suggested. 'We got to move 'em out, we're going to move 'em back in if they're really good people.'"
He mentioned grape pickers in this interview as well.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at November 20, 2015 04:46 PM (YjDyJ)
And? He is for amnesty - real amnesty, which involves deporting them first. If he wants to forgive their crimes after deporting them then that is a reasonable position - not one I like but a reasonable one. That is true amnesty.
But he is not for giving aid and comfort to illegals by calling off all interior enforcement and printing up residency/citizenships for them. That is not amnesty, that is TREASON and that is what all the other Vichy GOP nominees are into.
Trump wants to deport them. good enough. Perhaps he wants to bring some back, legally. That is a reasonable position to be debated. Don't pretend as if any of the other candidates are anywhere even close to that position. The rest of them are pretty much all for treasonous aid and comfort.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 20, 2015 05:18 PM (zc3Db)
578
"Hell, almost everyone at AoSHQ thinks Trump is crazy"
Then most here like Kabuki theater. Trump has been leading in the polls for over 5 months among Republican voters. He's going to be the nominee. They haven't even factored in the crossover Dems.
Landslide.
Then most here like Kabuki theater. Trump has been leading in the polls for over 5 months among Republican voters. He's going to be the nominee. They haven't even factored in the crossover Dems.
Landslide.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at November 20, 2015 05:19 PM (C+Q5F)
579
25 Cruz!
Posted by: Grump928(c) bitter ender at November 20, 2015 02:34 PM (evdj2)
Seconded.... AND the motion carries. [brief sound of gavel pounding]
Posted by: Grump928(c) bitter ender at November 20, 2015 02:34 PM (evdj2)
Seconded.... AND the motion carries. [brief sound of gavel pounding]
Posted by: Captain Oblivious at November 20, 2015 05:20 PM (hiT/m)
580
I'd be interested in seeing a link to the evidence that Carson voted for Obama. I'm trying to decide if I like him or not, but I'm skeptical of this claim.
Posted by: Hillary's alcoholic depression at November 20, 2015 05:22 PM (DkXQB)
581
You're going to loose people from the tent no matter who you pick. There's no such thing as a universal candidate, even within a party. For me it's all about picking which candidate will force the fewest number of people out of the tent.
Honestly, I used to be a Republican and a conservative. Now I'm just a not-Democrat. No matter how bad the GOPalternative, it's better. We're at too dangerous a point, IMO, to let it burn. Letting it burn might literally mean letting it burn.
You're going to loose people from the tent no matter who you pick. There's no such thing as a universal candidate, even within a party. For me it's all about picking which candidate will force the fewest number of people out of the tent.
Honestly, I used to be a Republican and a conservative. Now I'm just a not-Democrat. No matter how bad the GOPalternative, it's better. We're at too dangerous a point, IMO, to let it burn. Letting it burn might literally mean letting it burn.
Posted by: FJ Min at November 20, 2015 05:22 PM (BHcX6)
582
"Rubio's the kid who learned the lessons of the street very well.
He gives no thought to whoever may be harmed by his actions. If he needs to do something to advance himself then it's just tough patooties and get out of his way."
Marco Rubio is an arrogant jackass who for some reason thinks he's the next Obama. A forty something year old with less than one term in the Senate running for Pres. I guess he thinks because he's "Hispanic" he's special and needs no qualifications other than his over estimation of his own self worth.
He really thinks we are stupid. Some of us speak Spanish.
He gives no thought to whoever may be harmed by his actions. If he needs to do something to advance himself then it's just tough patooties and get out of his way."
Marco Rubio is an arrogant jackass who for some reason thinks he's the next Obama. A forty something year old with less than one term in the Senate running for Pres. I guess he thinks because he's "Hispanic" he's special and needs no qualifications other than his over estimation of his own self worth.
He really thinks we are stupid. Some of us speak Spanish.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at November 20, 2015 05:24 PM (C+Q5F)
583
If anybody's playing a 3 card Monte game of hide the lady, it's been Cruz.
He's been back and forth over issues. And he actually voted on them. Not speculation about what someone would do because they donated to Democrats in a Democrat town.
He is all for a whole lot of stuff he claims he's not.
It's sleight of hand and too many are falling for it because they don't pay attention to the details of some of these votes. They just hear Cruz before or after talking the way he knows people want to hear. Meanwhile he's claiming outsider status while being so inside he's hidden from view.
He's been back and forth over issues. And he actually voted on them. Not speculation about what someone would do because they donated to Democrats in a Democrat town.
He is all for a whole lot of stuff he claims he's not.
It's sleight of hand and too many are falling for it because they don't pay attention to the details of some of these votes. They just hear Cruz before or after talking the way he knows people want to hear. Meanwhile he's claiming outsider status while being so inside he's hidden from view.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at November 20, 2015 05:25 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: FredB at November 20, 2015 05:41 PM (mkgf1)
585
Ace is right. I went with proabort, pro gun control, pro Obama care Romney last time. Will not vote for lying liar Rubio. If he's the choice, count me out. Save the "Hillary's worse" crap. She's exactly the same.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 20, 2015 05:45 PM (sqpGi)
586
The real issue to me is, why do Republicans continue to exploit false openings the media feeds them. It happened with the Carson lies. And this is another example.
This idea reflects on them all not just Trump. We need to remember that the media will never help a Republican it is always a trick.
The real story is how Democrats successfully pit one Republican against another, with a lie.
You'd think we would learn... Trump didn't say that. But other Republicans have accused him of it, so now the truth almost doesn't matter.
When the accusation comes out of the mouth of other Republicans it has much more punch.
Please no matter who you support, we need to get the message to the candidates not to exploit false openings the press makes for our side. It is always a trap for the whole Party.
Now the ones who may have fallen for the trick, I think Cruz did, maybe Rubio, maybe Carson, but they need to correct the record and keep the media honest.
The only way we win is to be a team against the media and the Democrats.
This idea reflects on them all not just Trump. We need to remember that the media will never help a Republican it is always a trick.
The real story is how Democrats successfully pit one Republican against another, with a lie.
You'd think we would learn... Trump didn't say that. But other Republicans have accused him of it, so now the truth almost doesn't matter.
When the accusation comes out of the mouth of other Republicans it has much more punch.
Please no matter who you support, we need to get the message to the candidates not to exploit false openings the press makes for our side. It is always a trap for the whole Party.
Now the ones who may have fallen for the trick, I think Cruz did, maybe Rubio, maybe Carson, but they need to correct the record and keep the media honest.
The only way we win is to be a team against the media and the Democrats.
Posted by: petunia at November 20, 2015 05:47 PM (VoCyE)
587
Look. If you want Hillary to be the President then vote for ANYONE but Trump! Trump is a street fighter and ONLY a street fighter will prevail over the liberal media and DemoRATS! And, I haven't heard anything from Trump that is not reasonable.
Posted by: Wayne at November 20, 2015 05:50 PM (hx6+b)
588
585 Ace is right. I went with proabort, pro gun control, pro Obama care Romney last time. Will not vote for lying liar Rubio. If he's the choice, count me out. Save the "Hillary's worse" crap. She's exactly the same.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 20, 2015 05:45 PM (sqpGi)
But all those things about Romney are flat out lies, just like this one about Trump.
Why are so many so easy to trick? The lies were made truth in this exact way so that there is no way for Romney to get his reputation back.
Why are Republicans so dumb that they keep falling for the same tricks?
Keep believing the dirt about Romney... who cares, that's history, but please see the pattern, and don't let it happen to whoever becomes our nominee.
When the media can trick Republicans into repeating their lies... it becomes the truth no matter how many times you correct it.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 20, 2015 05:45 PM (sqpGi)
But all those things about Romney are flat out lies, just like this one about Trump.
Why are so many so easy to trick? The lies were made truth in this exact way so that there is no way for Romney to get his reputation back.
Why are Republicans so dumb that they keep falling for the same tricks?
Keep believing the dirt about Romney... who cares, that's history, but please see the pattern, and don't let it happen to whoever becomes our nominee.
When the media can trick Republicans into repeating their lies... it becomes the truth no matter how many times you correct it.
Posted by: petunia at November 20, 2015 05:50 PM (VoCyE)
589
Trump has been leading the polls, but he has never had a majority. Being ahead is not being the winner. Not until it is all over.
So some of you are going to think there is some dirty trick being played if Trump doesn't win. But there is not yet a majority who support him. It is a plurality right now in a very large field, but more do not support him than do, so it is very likely all the ones who don't support him will decide one of the others is better.
It's like Democracy is a new concept to both the far left and the far right.
No body gets to make the choice alone, the one who gets the most in the end, not the middle, wins.
I'm going to support Trump or anyone else who convinces the most poeple he will do the best job. Because that is how a Democracy works. You don't throw down your marbles and go home when you don't get your way!
So some of you are going to think there is some dirty trick being played if Trump doesn't win. But there is not yet a majority who support him. It is a plurality right now in a very large field, but more do not support him than do, so it is very likely all the ones who don't support him will decide one of the others is better.
It's like Democracy is a new concept to both the far left and the far right.
No body gets to make the choice alone, the one who gets the most in the end, not the middle, wins.
I'm going to support Trump or anyone else who convinces the most poeple he will do the best job. Because that is how a Democracy works. You don't throw down your marbles and go home when you don't get your way!
Posted by: petunia at November 20, 2015 05:56 PM (VoCyE)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 20, 2015 06:17 PM (rwI+c)
591
"Trump is a street fighter and ONLY a street fighter will prevail over the liberal media and DemoRATS!"
Exactly! It's amazing some still don't get it. He'll cut a bitch. Haha. He's already done it a bit.
Standback
He plays to win. And win he will.
Exactly! It's amazing some still don't get it. He'll cut a bitch. Haha. He's already done it a bit.
Standback
He plays to win. And win he will.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at November 20, 2015 06:52 PM (C+Q5F)
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"Why are so many so easy to trick? The lies were made truth in this exact way so that there is no way for Romney to get his reputation back.
Why are Republicans so dumb that they keep falling for the same tricks?"
Don't flatter your uniparty-establishment self, you didn't fool us. We had no choice before. That's a big difference.
Maybe you can insult your voters again and still think they will vote for you but I doubt it. Besides, you don't want us knuckle-dragging racists voting for you anyway.
We have a choice now. Trump v.s. Uniparty.
Why are Republicans so dumb that they keep falling for the same tricks?"
Don't flatter your uniparty-establishment self, you didn't fool us. We had no choice before. That's a big difference.
Maybe you can insult your voters again and still think they will vote for you but I doubt it. Besides, you don't want us knuckle-dragging racists voting for you anyway.
We have a choice now. Trump v.s. Uniparty.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at November 20, 2015 07:01 PM (C+Q5F)
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Look guys--sh#t just got really real! The only Republican who's a credible Commander-in-Chief for WWIII is Rick Perry. Throw Carly in as VP or Secretary of State and we might have a fighting chance.
Posted by: MadRandian at November 20, 2015 07:06 PM (/4yHG)
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Yeah, why would the guy answering the question bear ANY responsibility for understanding it, or answering clearly?
This cult is beyond parody.
This cult is beyond parody.
Posted by: Adjoran at November 20, 2015 07:55 PM (QIQ6j)
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This is the Eternal Back-Up Argument of the hack: the very fact that he allowed me to make this charge against him is all the proof you need the charge is essentially true.
Greg Gutless was using this very talking point on the Five today.
Greg Gutless was using this very talking point on the Five today.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at November 20, 2015 08:00 PM (vBTXQ)
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"Look, I'm sorry fellas, but Marco Rubio is absolutely unacceptable to me. Absolutely unacceptable." (Ace, 11/20/15)
Funny. He used to be...
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"Ace: I'm Gonna Give Marco Rubio A Big Sloppy Wet Tongue Kiss Over This New PPP Poll" (8/24/10)
"Ace: This New Rasmussen Poll Makes Me Want to Dress Up Like Jame Gumb And Put Marco Rubio In My Victim-Hole" (8/26/10)
"Ace: This New Poll Makes Me Want To Devour Marco Rubio's Life Essence So That I Can Transform Into Him" (9/09/10)
"Ace: New Rubio Poll Gives Me a Funny Feeling In My No-No Bad-Touch Place" (9/14/10)
"Ace: These New Polls Make Me Want To Do a Victory Dance" (9/15/10) *implied about Rubio*
"Ace: This New CNN Putting Angle Ahead of Reid Makes Me Want To Have a Picnic With Marco Rubio" (9/16/10)
"Ace: Charlie Cook's New Rating of Connecticut as a 'Toss Up' Makes Me Want to Call My Best Bud Marco Rubio" (9/16/10)
"Ace: This New Rubio Poll Makes Me Want To Dork Alan Grayson In the Squeakhole" (9/30/10)
"Ace: This New Poll Showing Jim Oberstar In Trouble Makes Me Horny For Chip Cravat Cravaat Marco Rubio" (10/04/10)
"Ace: This AP Poll Showing Swing White Working Class Voters Moving To GOP Makes Me Want To Do Something Special
Marco Rubio: I Don't Like Where This Is Heading
Ace: Relax, You'll Like It" (10/06/10)
"Ace: This New Poll Showing Toomey Up 48-40 Gives Me a "Rubio" Kind of Feeling In My Pants" (10/26/10)
***************
"Look, I'm sorry fellas, but Marco Rubio is absolutely unacceptable to me. Absolutely unacceptable." (Ace, 11/20/15)
Makes you wonder which of Ace's current "crushes" will be unacceptable in a few years...
Funny. He used to be...
***************
"Ace: I'm Gonna Give Marco Rubio A Big Sloppy Wet Tongue Kiss Over This New PPP Poll" (8/24/10)
"Ace: This New Rasmussen Poll Makes Me Want to Dress Up Like Jame Gumb And Put Marco Rubio In My Victim-Hole" (8/26/10)
"Ace: This New Poll Makes Me Want To Devour Marco Rubio's Life Essence So That I Can Transform Into Him" (9/09/10)
"Ace: New Rubio Poll Gives Me a Funny Feeling In My No-No Bad-Touch Place" (9/14/10)
"Ace: These New Polls Make Me Want To Do a Victory Dance" (9/15/10) *implied about Rubio*
"Ace: This New CNN Putting Angle Ahead of Reid Makes Me Want To Have a Picnic With Marco Rubio" (9/16/10)
"Ace: Charlie Cook's New Rating of Connecticut as a 'Toss Up' Makes Me Want to Call My Best Bud Marco Rubio" (9/16/10)
"Ace: This New Rubio Poll Makes Me Want To Dork Alan Grayson In the Squeakhole" (9/30/10)
"Ace: This New Poll Showing Jim Oberstar In Trouble Makes Me Horny For Chip Cravat Cravaat Marco Rubio" (10/04/10)
"Ace: This AP Poll Showing Swing White Working Class Voters Moving To GOP Makes Me Want To Do Something Special
Marco Rubio: I Don't Like Where This Is Heading
Ace: Relax, You'll Like It" (10/06/10)
"Ace: This New Poll Showing Toomey Up 48-40 Gives Me a "Rubio" Kind of Feeling In My Pants" (10/26/10)
***************
"Look, I'm sorry fellas, but Marco Rubio is absolutely unacceptable to me. Absolutely unacceptable." (Ace, 11/20/15)
Makes you wonder which of Ace's current "crushes" will be unacceptable in a few years...
Posted by: Demosthenes at November 20, 2015 08:34 PM (9V0rz)
597
""Well, my charge might have been wrong"
That was Gutfeld's take on the 5. BS. Surprised he accepts that restriction.
That was Gutfeld's take on the 5. BS. Surprised he accepts that restriction.
Posted by: Kaner at November 21, 2015 04:14 AM (evUpK)
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Ted Cruz - Lifelong Conservative, with a functioning brain.
Rubio - Amnesty - want Amnesty for 30+ million illegals? Vote Rubio.
Trump - actually has good instincts, can't control his mouth.
Carson - Try running for Congress first. We'd support that. You are WAY out of your league.
That's it, no one else is left.
Rubio - Amnesty - want Amnesty for 30+ million illegals? Vote Rubio.
Trump - actually has good instincts, can't control his mouth.
Carson - Try running for Congress first. We'd support that. You are WAY out of your league.
That's it, no one else is left.
Posted by: Aarradin at November 22, 2015 02:01 AM (E1dWk)
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The rumor floating inside some campaigns is that Rubio has a known "zipper problem" - if he gets the nomination, Clinton is prepared to completely trash him on that count.
Posted by: Joe Draftking at November 22, 2015 09:02 AM (aHH/D)
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