Fundamental Concepts - Nothing to Believe In [Weirddave]

The latest surge by ISIS has brought to the fore one of the hallmarks of modern leftism, and that is their absolute refusal to process facts that conflict with their worldview. Here we have ISIS, a murderous, genocidal Islamic supremacy group. They have stated quite openly that they intend to carve a caliphate out for themselves by any means necessary, and by “by any means” they mean as violently as possible. They view the West, Christianity, Secular Humanists, Hindus, everybody who doesn’t conform to their brand of Islam as the enemy, and they have only one tactic for dealing with the enemy : kill them and keep on killing them until they are either all dead or their remnant is so cowed that they convert to Islam. They justify this using the Koran and various Hadiths and they will quite happily tell anyone who will listen exactly what they believe is divine rational for their actions.

You or I look at this and say “Huh. These assholes want to kill us. Let’s arm ourselves and prepare. Let’s go out and kill them first to protect our weak and vulnerable. They have demonstrated again and again that they are serious, we should take them at their word”. To us, this is the most basic common sense. When ISIS says that they are going to smuggle terrorists in amongst Syrian refuges to kill us at home, something they have demonstrated the ability to do as recently as last week, we think it’s simply prudent to halt an influx of refugees that we can not verify free of terrorists. Again, simple common sense.

Our leaders, the so called smart set, don’t seem to agree, and an increasing percentage of the population is realizing that what we see as blindingly obvious, they don’t see at all? Why? I’ve seen this question asked more than once this past week on social media and in the press, and have yet to hear a good answer. It quite simply makes no sense.

When talking about leftists in the United States, it would be logical to assume that their denial of reality is tied to their investment in fantasy, and I do think that that is a part of it. They are absolutely committed to the Lightbringer narrative. Obama was supposed to do nothing less than change the way the world works, and the fact that he hasn’t must be obfuscated at all costs. The reality that his idiotic graduate school Utopian mindset has CAUSED many of these problems is blackest heresy that must never be spoken of out loud. There is a generous dollop of that amongst Proggys here, but Left Wing European elites have no reason to shield Obama from criticism, and yet they feel the same way. So what exactly is the reason that these people so stridently deny reality?

I think the roots go back to WWI. It is hard for us raised in a post WWI (and WWII) world to understand exactly how shattering WWI was to the psyche of the West. Tens of millions dead, the cream of an entire generation ripped from the bosom of their homes to be extinguished in the bloody horror of Gallipoli, Ypers and The Somme. Prior to WWI, the West (and by this we mean Christendom), had an unbounded confidence that it was the pinnacle of human achievement, leading the way to a brighter future (which came to pass, just look around at the material wonders of life in the West today). Post WWI the West recoiled from what it had done (only to do it again a generation later) and allowed a societal rot to take root and spread. Since traditional morals had so failed Christendom, then they must be done away with and replaced.

I’m going to fast forward a little bit over the details, books have been written about things like moral relativism, Marxist theory and secular humanism, but once you get to today you find that the vast majority of our “elites” share a mindset that makes them virtually incapable of responding to a threat like ISIS.

These people believe in the primacy of self. The ultimate end all be all of the universe is the 2.2 lbs of cabbage they have between their ears. Just their ears, what other people may think or believe has no bearing on the universe if it disagrees with their precious worldview. Now, it’s fine and dandy to recognize that the brain is the only tool we have to understand the universe. It is folly unbound to demand that the universe reconfigure itself to match the wishes of the brain. That is arrogance at its rawest, and that is what we see daily from the Left.

Obama arrogantly speaks of “universal values” without realizing that no, the values he’s referring to are anything but universal and in fact they are the product of a religious and moral code that he rejects.

The elites arrogantly reject that ISIS can hurt the West. Oh sure, they may kill some random members of the hoi polloi, but that won’t affect THEM. And it might not. Until it does, or until the hoi polloi get tired of bleeding all over the place and decide to make some changes.

The media arrogantly denies that the terrorists themselves have any agency. They constantly seek to excuse their bloody attacks by excusing them as pawns or blaming society, imperialism, Christians, corporations, BOOOOSH! Capitalism or whatever.

Most of all, what all of these smug assholes fail to accept, steeped as they are in their philosophy of self and blinded by the myth of their superior intellects, is that there are billions of people out there who do not subscribe to their selfish worldview: people who believe in something larger then themselves and who act upon those beliefs. They can’t understand it when they run across it in their own culture for God’s sake (That Christians might have an honest belief that homosexuality is a sin does not compute. Christians MUST be bigots, or homophobes or haters), they have no chance at recognizing it in a foreign one. Last week in Paris, one of the terrorists calmly went down a row of handicapped people in wheelchairs and calmly executed each and every one of them in turn. I guarantee you that as this evil man calmly committed this bloody and evil act, he felt in his heart the same satisfaction that you do when you give money to a homeless man Mr. Elite. These people have their own beliefs and the free will to act upon them. They will tell you all about them if you ask, and even if you don’t. They are PROUD of what they are doing. They BRAG about their bloody ways. THEY MEAN WHAT THEY SAY.

Unfortunately, that is so utterly foreign to the worldview of our so-called elites that they just don’t get it, and I doubt the ever will because it contradicts that worldview completely. To understand they would have to let go of the arrogance that sustains them, and that’s a very hard row to hoe.

And that leaves us screwed. How can we defeat out enemies if we refuse to take them seriously?

Posted by: Open Blogger at 06:37 PM

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1 The worldwide number of annual terrorist deaths has more than quadrupled since President Barack Obama was inaugurated in January 2009.

Deaths from terrorism increased 80 percent last year to an all-time-record of 32,658 people killed, compared to 18,111 in 2013. The number is up about 426 percent from the 7,654 killed by terrorists in 2008 under President Bush, according to the latest report

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 24, 2015 06:34 PM (DUoqb)

2 Howdy, Weirddave. Nice to see you around.

Posted by: m at November 24, 2015 06:34 PM (tElZn)

3 Not only are they unwilling to face facts, Isis is killing all their favorites groups of peoples and They turn a blind eye.
which makes me consider they are Unserious about ANYTHING but agitating for political power that they can wield to destroy others they actually dislike much more than isis.

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 06:36 PM (xpPRn)

4 That climate change sure is putting a whoop ass on us.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 24, 2015 06:37 PM (FkBIv)

5 They are vermin, and as such they should be exterminated to a man. Leave none alive.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at November 24, 2015 06:37 PM (t2KH5)

6 They have a view of the world based on their ideology and philosophy. When empirical reality disagrees with that, they simply refuse to accept it. They exist in their own little spacetime warp bubble, where reality as we know doesn't intrude.

And what I learning is how many of the elites who are supposedly on our side live in that same bubble. They claim to be conservative, but they were raised and educated in that same warp bubble.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 24, 2015 06:38 PM (dvuhZ)

7 I haven't read the post yet, but I just wanted to say it's nice to see another post by you, Weirddave.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at November 24, 2015 06:38 PM (+eR2D)

8 It's a test. Smart, civilized men will either sort things out through remorseless, brutal violence against the barbarians - or the barbarians will wage the same against civilized men and win. Humanity will lose once again, if we allow the barbarians to win.

Posted by: Conan the Librarian at November 24, 2015 06:41 PM (Jdgwe)

9 Top 10?

Posted by: Weasel at November 24, 2015 06:41 PM (e3bId)

10 Because they are fundamentally unserious leaders.
Look at the issues they try to discuss: climate change, income inequality, abortion access, gun control, affirmative action, etc. Then compare it to what Americans think are the most important issues and those liberal issues above are always near the absolute bottom of the list.
Why do they yammer about them? They aren't really vote winners. Gun control is actually toxic. They simply can't do otherwise. They have a myopic, deeply ignorant and ahistorical view of the world and exist in a bubble which was created by "academia."

Posted by: Naes at November 24, 2015 06:41 PM (Ypc8j)

11 I'm getting better dealing with progressives.....I stopped pounding my head on the desk going *stupid stupid stupid*

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at November 24, 2015 06:41 PM (uJK1E)

12 >> haven't read the post yet, but I just wanted to say it's nice to see another post by you, Weirddave.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod

You'll like it. It's about a barking dog.

Posted by: Aviator at November 24, 2015 06:41 PM (c7vUv)

13 "Last week in Paris, one of the terrorists calmly went down a row of handicapped people in wheelchairs and calmly executed each and every one of them in turn."

I think that some of the leftists do honestly see actions like that as the action of one person--"one of the terrorists." And then they ask what could have prevented that one person from doing that? If only he had felt more validated, had had a better job.

Posted by: m at November 24, 2015 06:41 PM (tElZn)

14 Wait, ISIS wants to kill us??

Posted by: fluffy at November 24, 2015 06:41 PM (AfsKp)

15 And the leftist talking point that most terror is not Islamic is of this flavor - they simply redefine Islamic terror movements as "not Islamic" and clap like seals when the NYT publishes the report.

The actual problem is not a soundbyte, nor will it go away if you close your eyes and hum real loud.

After 9/11, there was quite the move on the left to go so far as to argue with Islamists about what they *really* meant and did. It's kind of like when they call us bigots and accuse us of (whatever idiot thing they just made up).

The same urge that drives them to crudely attack Jindal for not acting the way THEY WANT Indians to act drives them to lie about Islam, conservatism, or anything else they come across.

If it wasn't for the MFM, they would rightly be regarded as loons.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 06:42 PM (bLnSU)

16 Theres a C/W song somewhat like this. Lyric goes "You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything" It so fits the leftist millenials raised w/o values falling for AGW, white privilege and so on.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 24, 2015 06:42 PM (dkExz)

17 As usual, very well said, WeirdDave.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at November 24, 2015 06:42 PM (2RcV1)

18 I sometimes wonder how much better "our side" would be had we not gone into Iraq after 9/11, because the idea of NOT hitting ISIS before they were here would be indefensible if the Left could not constantly point to Iraq (which both Hillary and Joe Biden voted for and the Left will have no issue voting for)

Posted by: Coolio at November 24, 2015 06:43 PM (6mRRI)

19 Like Eric Blair wrote, "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face-forever."

This is what the professional politicians give us in their unending quest for power.

Until ISIS gets a nuclear bomb or two.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 24, 2015 06:43 PM (ej1L0)

20 5 They are vermin, and as such they should be exterminated to a man. Leave none alive.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party
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You are talking about ISIS here. right?

Posted by: Roy at November 24, 2015 06:43 PM (VndSC)

21 Not trying to be deliberately contrarian, but bombing ISIS huts, tents, and camels in Syria and Iraq is a far distant second to having a serious and candid discussion about our immigration and refugee policies --and changing them to keep the fuckers out of the USA and the West in general.

Posted by: logprof at November 24, 2015 06:43 PM (vsbNu)

22 The worldwide number of annual terrorist deaths has more than quadrupled since President Barack Obama was inaugurated in January 2009.

Deaths from terrorism increased 80 percent last year to an all-time-record of 32,658 people killed, compared to 18,111 in 2013. The number is up about 426 percent from the 7,654 killed by terrorists in 2008 under President Bush, according to the latest report
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Maybe so, but it's all Buuuuuuuuuusssssssshhhhhh's fault.

If he hadn't invaded Iraq for no reason (other than Big Oil and Halliburton and lies about WMD), then the Muslim world would all love and respect us now. Especially since the U.S. elected me. Did you know I grew up in Indonesia, had a Muslim step-daddy for a couple of years, and think the Muslim call to prayer is the most beautiful sound in all the world? Aren't I special?

I am Citizen of the World Barack Obama. If only you xenophobic, raaaaaaacist clingers had recognized my greatness sooner, I could have fixed everything. But alas, you waited too long, and there is only so much a LightWorker can do. I have rolled over for the terrorists at every turn; I gave them back Afghanistan and Iraq, and even threw in Libya for free! I have armed ISIS in Syria, and done everything possible to throw open U.S. borders to bring more here. I have been in bed with the Muslim Brotherhood for so many years now that my anus is sore. But still it's not enough. And all because of Buuuuussssshhh!

Posted by: Hussein The Assh*le Obama at November 24, 2015 06:44 PM (a31sM)

23 >>And the leftist talking point that most terror is not Islamic is of this flavor - they simply redefine Islamic terror movements as "not Islamic" and clap like seals when the NYT publishes the report.

It's a version of the "No true Scotsman".

Posted by: Aviator at November 24, 2015 06:44 PM (c7vUv)

24 Embrace Christianity. Embrace the Gospel. Embrace the Savior. Doing so will sort out your mind, your will, and your worldview. It really is the only thing that makes sense. That is why it is so hated. It's that dangerous.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at November 24, 2015 06:44 PM (dFi94)

25 If it wasn't for the MFM, they would rightly be regarded as loons.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 06:42 PM (bLnSU)

have to admit that has been one of the most un nerving aspects of the last 7 plus years.

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 06:44 PM (xpPRn)

26 I blame those apple eaters in Eden.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 24, 2015 06:46 PM (FkBIv)

27 Weirddave, it's Ypres, not Ypers.

Posted by: logprof at November 24, 2015 06:46 PM (vsbNu)

28 You are talking about ISIS here. right?

Posted by: Roy at November 24, 2015 06:43 PM (VndSC)

yes

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at November 24, 2015 06:46 PM (t2KH5)

29 Barky would make a very good 5 star war General. Just ask him.

Posted by: Ronster at November 24, 2015 06:46 PM (mUa7N)

30 Ypers creepers.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 24, 2015 06:46 PM (FkBIv)

31 Weirddave, it's Ypres, not Ypers.

Posted by: logprof at November 24, 2015 06:46 PM (vsbNu)
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I thought he meant Yoopers.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at November 24, 2015 06:47 PM (dFi94)

32 I'm still laughing at Ace's quote from the previous blog post

'Wars of religion always make me laugh because basically you're fighting over who has the best imaginary friend.'"

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at November 24, 2015 06:47 PM (uJK1E)

33 yes
Posted by: Vic-we have no party
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Assumed so. The "vermin" thing can get confused with others

Posted by: Roy at November 24, 2015 06:47 PM (VndSC)

34 Barky would make a very good 5 star war General. Just ask him.
Posted by: Ronster

I'm replacing the stars with rainbows. I'm a 5 rainbow general.

Posted by: Queen Barry I at November 24, 2015 06:48 PM (/oy1S)

35 I used to not understand the Israelites' conquest of Canaan where YHWH said leave none alive- men, women, children, even animals. Now I do. Some cultures are too corrupt for even a seed to be left behind.

Posted by: Naes at November 24, 2015 06:48 PM (Ypc8j)

36 Every day they thrown gays off rooftops to their deaths and not a peep from the freaking gay rights crowd. Why?

Posted by: Mustapha Kunt -- With a Wang! at November 24, 2015 06:48 PM (iQIUe)

37 I sometimes wonder how much better "our side" would be had we not gone into Iraq after 9/11, because the idea of NOT hitting ISIS before they were here would be indefensible if the Left could not constantly point to Iraq (which both Hillary and Joe Biden voted for and the Left will have no issue voting for)

Posted by: Coolio at November 24, 2015 06:43 PM (6mRRI)

None at all. They don't make arguments because the argument is valid or because the situation warrants it, but because of their warped view of reality and how they think they can push people closer to it.

I don't think throwing away our lives for nothing was worth it, any more than throwing away the lives of the Iraqis when we walked out on them, like Vietnam.

A person can commit, a government can't be trusted to do so, as it turns out.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 06:48 PM (bLnSU)

38 Barky would make a very good 5 star war General. Just ask him.
Posted by: Ronster

Ever see those local police chiefs on TV who wear multiple stars on their shoulders? Their uniforms put WW2 generals to shame.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 24, 2015 06:49 PM (FkBIv)

39 These people are subhuman and have devolved to neanderathols. We cannot undo the stupid.

Posted by: L, Elle at November 24, 2015 06:49 PM (2x3L+)

40 ISIS is a very complicated problem, but as the philosopher Testicles (Tes-ti-clees) wrote:

"Fuck 'em. Let's fuck 'em. Then, let's fuck em again."

Posted by: Testicles' Biographer at November 24, 2015 06:49 PM (tfM+W)

41 You are a smart guy, Dave and this premise could even be true but I have a different take.

I don't think the Obama-elites, the hard left, really give a damn about the proles. It's why they want to call terrorism, "man caused disasters". The problem they see with dead citizens is that it roils the masses. They believe in the big picture and the big picture is the State. And if creating the State in their own image causes some amount of the citizenry to assume room temperature, well omelets, eggs and all. This deal with Syria is about Obama making sure the US can never interfere there again. Part of that is bringing middle easterners here to vote and to be an underlying threat.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at November 24, 2015 06:49 PM (ZY2zO)

42
Caliphate is arabic for do me in my squeak hole, no?

Posted by: Mustapha Kunt -- With a Wang! at November 24, 2015 06:50 PM (iQIUe)

43 have to admit that has been one of the most un nerving aspects of the last 7 plus years.

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 06:44 PM (xpPRn)

{{hugs}}, willow

We can hope enough people wake up to pull the support rug out from under them. Eventually.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 06:50 PM (bLnSU)

44 People of the Right Wing see Islamists as the enemy

People of the Left Wing see the Right Wing as the enemy.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

Applies to virtually all 'Leftist Thinking'.

Posted by: davidt at November 24, 2015 06:51 PM (eUK5G)

45 Every day they thrown gays off rooftops to their deaths and not a peep from the freaking gay rights crowd. Why?
Posted by: Mustapha Kunt -- With a Wang! at November 24, 2015 06:48 PM (iQIUe)

everyday they rape women and children, . where' woman rights goups ?

and where's the 'for the children'?
that's why i think it is all BS, they only agitate the west for power, not because they give two chts about Any of it.
only to pit everyone US against eachotherm to make laws where They maintain Their own power.

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 06:52 PM (xpPRn)

46 42
Caliphate is arabic for do me in my squeak hole, no?

Apparently....

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at November 24, 2015 06:52 PM (uJK1E)

47 When ISIS says that they are going to smuggle terrorists in amongst Syrian refuges to kill us at home, something they have demonstrated the ability to do as recently as last week, we think it's simply prudent to halt an influx of refugees that we can not verify free of terrorists. Again, simple common sense.
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YES ONE WOULD THINK THAT IS FUCKING COMMON SENSE, WOULDN'T ONE???

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAGHHGHGHGHAAAA!!!!

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 24, 2015 06:53 PM (E5UB0)

48 we think it's simply prudent to halt an influx of refugees that we can not verify free of terrorists.

I find it prudent to stop all immigration of muslims, regardless. There are 57 nations in the Organization of the islamic Conference. They can go find a place there. We don't need them and don't want them, no matter what they claim to be.

P.S. Your apostrophes are of the funny sort that Pixy won't allow to pass. It's a real pain to have to go through and retype them all to get a post through.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 24, 2015 06:53 PM (zc3Db)

49 Ads on ACE are trying to install apps on my android phone. 4 times in the last two days loading ACE launched the play store.
Youall need to stop this malware from using your site as a vector.

The domain is crobo.com....

I wont post the full URL.

Posted by: QT 3.14159 at November 24, 2015 06:53 PM (baQys)

50 It's tiring to explain the 'root cause' of Islamic terrorism to you knuckle dragging Neanderthals over and over again.

Global watering. Oceans rising. Every other idea we've dismissed.

Posted by: John Kerry at November 24, 2015 06:53 PM (7v/r5)

51 It's a version of the "No true Scotsman".

Posted by: Aviator at November 24, 2015 06:44 PM (c7vUv)

The hilarious part is watching Bernie Sanders supporters digging through Das Kapital for evidence that Bernie isn't *really* a socialist... and then having Denmark distance themselves from his Socialist Praise, and then have to try to pretend he never called himself a socialist.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 06:53 PM (bLnSU)

52 Testicles was a very under-appreciated thinker, often overshadowed by his mentor, Cowpers.

Posted by: logprof at November 24, 2015 06:54 PM (vsbNu)

53 *Merovign, * hugs and kisses,
I have little faith in them waking up. It is much too useful a tactic against the rest of us . They really are not committed to anything just raw power against their neighbors

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 06:54 PM (xpPRn)

54 What I don't get, is intelligent people....go total fucking retard when it comes to lefty beliefs....I don't get it....

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at November 24, 2015 06:54 PM (uJK1E)

55 I dunno. If ISIS do something horrid in NYC over the holidays, I don't care. Rather they do it then and encourage us to actually employ sane policies, than get caught off guard some random day commuting to work. Need to stop being so lazy and join the f*cking Amish.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 24, 2015 06:55 PM (E5UB0)

56 I'm old enough to remember if you typed ISIS, spell check would warn you of a double word

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at November 24, 2015 06:55 PM (uJK1E)

57 Mr. Know it all.

it's about belonging to the right group that tells them they are good, kind, and right about their view of the world.
which means they are really stupid asses for following a culture that lack srs compassion for others.

it's all fake.

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 06:56 PM (xpPRn)

58 I got a deal for ISIS. We won't bother you for a while so long as you limit your attacks to:

1) Democratic politicians
2) Journalists
3) Public intellectuals
4) Law professors
5) Community activists

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at November 24, 2015 06:56 PM (bZbYb)

59 I have little faith in them waking up. It is much too useful a tactic against the rest of us . They really are not committed to anything just raw power against their neighbors

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 06:54 PM (xpPRn)

Well let's hope luck or fate or circumstance works against that, because when it comes time for using raw power against neighbors, our last Civil War is going to be a source of considerable nostalgia.

This is *my* wish-with-no-plan - that somehow the recti will be too distracted to enact their mad schemes.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 06:57 PM (bLnSU)

60 How does one say "Don't shoot! I know secrets!" In Arabic?

Posted by: Diogenes at November 24, 2015 06:58 PM (VAVIJ)

61 To quote the great philosopher Vas Deferens, "Do not hunt the goat until he has descended from the mountain."

Posted by: logprof at November 24, 2015 06:58 PM (vsbNu)

62 I've been thinking about this some lately, let me give it a stab (heh).

Progressives reject traditional models of morality as mean-spirited, outdated.
They yearn to view themselves as "good" people.
Having rejected the notion of themselves as "flawed, failed or sinners" they construct an internal truth system that all people want to be "good" to the point that they are truly puzzled when evil perpetrators perpetrate evil.
They ask themselves, 'what could have led to a basically good person doing something so horrific?" and the only answer they can come up with is that some outside influence is to blame (lack of jobs, resentment over centuries-old imperialistic imprecations, global warming, etc)

To wrap it all up, there must be an underlying villain, the villain they rejected when they decided they were "good". It must be the evil people who tried to force their morality on me when I was younger, i.e. my parents (substitute Tea Party, Republicans, The Rich, any establishment figure), and voila, root cause!

Shorter version- extended adolescent rebellion.

(I like your version better, Weirddave.)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 24, 2015 06:58 PM (NeFrd)

63 there are a million propagandists for their world view.

some believe and some lead the dopes. but they all like a share of the action, power and money it can rake up.

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 06:58 PM (xpPRn)

64 Just a bunch of psychos with social media? A JV squad?
These folks are probably the best trained Jihadist army we've seen. Their ranks are bolstered by experienced foreign fighters who have survived numerous wars- Afghanistan, Iraq, Chechnya, Balkans etc. The 19 year olds they get to blow themselves up are indeed idiots. ISIS's leadership knows exactly what it's doing. Every day they survive our "onslaught" is a day they add to their myth.

Posted by: Naes at November 24, 2015 06:59 PM (Ypc8j)

65 and where's the 'for the children'?

that's why i think it is all BS, they only agitate the west for power, not because they give two chts about Any of it.

only to pit everyone US against eachotherm to make laws where They maintain Their own power.

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 06:52 PM (xpPRn)

It absolutely is all bullshit.

Half the time I think they're just real-life trolling. "Oh I bet a conservative thinks (insert whatever) so we'll say (exact opposite) because we certainly can't agree with those knuckledragging mouthbreathers."

They are sick people who cannot see past their own noses. Brainwashed.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at November 24, 2015 06:59 PM (+eR2D)

66 This is *my* wish-with-no-plan - that somehow the recti will be too distracted to enact their mad schemes.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 06:57 PM (bLnSU)

hear-hear.

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 06:59 PM (xpPRn)

67 You are right, willow. I mean in the scheme of things what difference does it make if I praise TFG....or spend all day ragging on TFG. I just have to pick correctly if I want to go to a snooty party.

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at November 24, 2015 07:00 PM (uJK1E)

68 How does one say "Don't shoot! I know secrets!" In Arabic?

Posted by: Diogenes at November 24, 2015 06:58 PM (VAVIJ)

Coos Ochtahk ... or Coos Emahk.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 24, 2015 07:00 PM (zc3Db)

69 I wont post the full URL.

Posted by: QT 3.14159 at November 24, 2015 06:53 PM (baQys)

Turn off JavaScript in your browser settings. It's the only thing that stops the ads and redirects. It will also save you a crapton of data.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at November 24, 2015 07:00 PM (+eR2D)

70 Great so when does the landwar in Asia start? I mean the second land war in Asia. After the first two went so well. CONSERVATIVES ANSWER TO EVERY PROBLEM: LAUNCH WAR IN MIDDLE EAST.

Posted by: bjk at November 24, 2015 07:00 PM (x2rNW)

71 Shorter version- extended adolescent rebellion.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 24, 2015 06:58 PM (NeFrd)

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Even Shorter version: the depravity of man.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at November 24, 2015 07:02 PM (dFi94)

72 70 Obama launched a war in Libya without Congressional approval. I know that's North Africa.

Posted by: Naes at November 24, 2015 07:02 PM (Ypc8j)

73 UK Mirror: the US's allies in the "moderate" side of the conflict, which means al-Qaeda, shot down a Russian rescue helicopter - using US weapons to do it. Killed the pilot.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 24, 2015 07:02 PM (J9qpF)

74 Ugh, pass the wine. I don't want to be angry tonight.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at November 24, 2015 07:03 PM (+eR2D)

75 Shorter Weirddave: we're fucked.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at November 24, 2015 07:03 PM (A6ryA)

76 68 How does one say "Don't shoot! I know secrets!" In Arabic?

Posted by: Diogenes at November 24, 2015 06:58 PM (VAVIJ)

Coos Ochtahk ... or Coos Emahk.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 24, 2015 07:00 PM (zc3Db)

Are you sure that's not Klingon?

Posted by: Itchytriggerfinger at November 24, 2015 07:03 PM (7csuM)

77 As Sun Tzu said " he who surrender before battle can never lose. "

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 24, 2015 07:03 PM (K4Ejl)

78 they are all insane clown possy for their 'betters' and don't realize how fkn insane they sound and how much they have bought into the insanity until their land is taken, their job is taken, their life is taken.

they should see how useless for humanity their ideas are, but they won't.

i feel bad for the young, but those actually training the youth to defeat the human goals of value?
fk them.

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:04 PM (xpPRn)

79 how do you say chutz�pah in Arabic?

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at November 24, 2015 07:04 PM (uJK1E)

80 makin copies...and just saw the 2015/2016 San Bernadino County Adopted Budget - "Budgeted staffing for 2015-16 is 21,755, an increase of 289 positions from the 2014-15 Final Budget. General Fund staffing is increasing by 263 positions..."

Posted by: Code name Mastadon at November 24, 2015 07:05 PM (OMEtJ)

81 As Sun Tzu also said " army with pussy for leader is screwed. "

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 24, 2015 07:05 PM (K4Ejl)

82 bjk, I consider myself a conservative and do not agree with any thing you type.

Posted by: Ronster at November 24, 2015 07:06 PM (mUa7N)

83 Leftism's intent is to weaken Western Civ.

It's not surprising that they see no threat from ISIS-- they hate the same things ISIS does.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at November 24, 2015 07:06 PM (oVJmc)

84 hands Danger a glass of wine, we need to actually do morphine drips, but that's all i got for now.

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:06 PM (xpPRn)

85 I hope ISIS doesn't attack the Klitschko-Fury boxing match on Saturday in Germany. PPV ain't cheap you Islamic assholes! It's going to have a crowd of 60,000 which seems like a mighty big target.

Posted by: Naes at November 24, 2015 07:06 PM (Ypc8j)

86 "Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad."

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 24, 2015 07:06 PM (T/5A0)

87 Shorter Muldoon: rejection of the concept of original sin

Posted by: L, Elle at November 24, 2015 07:07 PM (2x3L+)

88
Has anybody noticed that the left ALWAYS to claims some sort of secret and obscure deeper understanding of people? The claim to possess secret knowledge of another, something hidden to them, is a form of power. I understand you better than you do, and can manipulate you, and know what is best for you, so shut up and do as I say. It also means that I never have to admit you are right, and I never have to change my position on anything.

Secret knowledge is intoxicating, especially when it comes pre-packaged from a professor, and requires little effort to hold. Trust me, leftists are dumb. DUMB. They have memorized a few talking points, and a lot of attitude. When their world view is challenged there is a palpable panic in the air, and a desperate need to change the subject.

It all started with Freud.

Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at November 24, 2015 07:07 PM (FzvkV)

89 How does one say "Don't shoot! I know secrets!" In Arabic?
Posted by: Diogenes at November 24, 2015 06:58 PM (VAVIJ)

It's probably better to be killed before being tortured and raped rather than afterward.

Posted by: An Inanimate Carbon Rod at November 24, 2015 07:07 PM (FohCt)

90 Testicles was a great mentor, and has much to say about our times even 2,500 years later.

Posted by: Vas Deferens at November 24, 2015 07:07 PM (vsbNu)

91 Even Shorter version: the depravity of man.

Posted by: grammie winger

****

Agreed. Nothing new under the sun.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 24, 2015 07:08 PM (NeFrd)

92 and then there's the remaining 854 pages of happy talk bullshit and beauracratese maintaining these fuckrs phoney baloney jobs......glad I don't live in San Bernaghetto...

Posted by: Code name Mastadon at November 24, 2015 07:09 PM (OMEtJ)

93 Weirddave, you must have read my mind because I was recently thinking about WWI and how it broke the West.

The Edwardian Era had its issues, but it must have been an amazing time to be alive. All that progress, new inventions, and wealth being created. It must have felt like we were unstoppable. Then Gavrilo Princip got a hankering for a sandwich, and it was all downhill from there.

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper- quietly rebellious at November 24, 2015 07:09 PM (26lkV)

94 89 How does one say "Don't shoot! I know secrets!" In Arabic?
Posted by: Diogenes at November 24, 2015 06:58 PM (VAVIJ)

It's probably better to be killed before being tortured and raped rather than afterward.
Posted by: An Inanimate Carbon Rod at November 24, 2015 07:07 PM (FohCt)

Like the Reavers in Firefly. "They'll rape us to death, eat our flesh and make clothes from our skin. And if we're really lucky, they'll do it in that order."

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at November 24, 2015 07:09 PM (A6ryA)

95 This is *my* wish-with-no-plan - that somehow the recti will be too distracted to enact their mad schemes.

Entropy doesn't get distracted, alas.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at November 24, 2015 07:10 PM (0NdlF)

96 And that's the meaningless of leftism Charlie Brown

Posted by: Linus at November 24, 2015 07:10 PM (KSdzX)

97 Glad to see the Fundamental Concepts back in the house.

Evan Sayet did a video/book on this called The Kindergarten of Eden. It's moral relativism.

Posted by: Saltydonnie at November 24, 2015 07:11 PM (aRqNR)

98 >>>>> Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at November 24, 2015 07:07 PM (FzvkV)
----------
Yes, the current left are modern day Gnostics

Posted by: L, Elle at November 24, 2015 07:11 PM (2x3L+)

99 The Edwardian Era had its issues, but it must have been an amazing time to be alive. All that progress, new inventions, and wealth being created. It must have felt like we were unstoppable. Then Gavrilo Princip got a hankering for a sandwich, and it was all downhill from there.

Wealth is more dangerous than poverty, because you crash down a lot faster and harder.

Ex: Sheen.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at November 24, 2015 07:11 PM (0NdlF)

100 I believe it was the Bard of Avon who wrote in "Miyagi in the Forest" (Act III Scene vii)

"Good fellow John, when dost the leg present itself, in good standing here and unto forever, do sweepest the leg with utmost vigor, and thereupon shalt voices from beyond the circle whisper evermore, "No mercy, no mercy, no mercy fair stavesman."

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 24, 2015 07:11 PM (NeFrd)

101 The Serbs created the best culture the world has ever seen. WWI was Austria's fault.

Posted by: Hektor at November 24, 2015 07:12 PM (vsbNu)

102 93 Weirddave, you must have read my mind because I was recently thinking about WWI and how it broke the West.

The Edwardian Era had its issues, but it must have been an amazing time to be alive. All that progress, new inventions, and wealth being created. It must have felt like we were unstoppable. Then Gavrilo Princip got a hankering for a sandwich, and it was all downhill from there.
Posted by: right wing whippersnapper- quietly rebellious at November 24, 2015 07:09 PM (26lkV)

I've started watching Downton Abbey. It seems to be heading in that direction-the loss of an era.

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 24, 2015 07:12 PM (K4Ejl)

103 Well. Thanks to some good police advice I can and should carry.
But others police bosses think I should carry a chair around to throw at them.
Gawd what will history say in 20 years???

Posted by: Diogenes at November 24, 2015 07:12 PM (VAVIJ)

104 One of the few good things about winter is being able to keep a bottle of Jagermeister out on the windowsill, so I only have to walk across the room to do a shot instead of going downstairs to the freezer.

Moron Horde ! Your health and long life ! Confusion to our enemies !

*makes the "toast" gesture, tosses back shot*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 24, 2015 07:12 PM (erRNA)

105 Entropy doesn't get distracted, alas.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at November 24, 2015 07:10 PM (0NdlF)

Entropy doesn't have a byline.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 07:13 PM (bLnSU)

106 Like the Reavers in Firefly. "They'll rape us to death, eat our flesh and make clothes from our skin. And if we're really lucky, they'll do it in that order."
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at November 24, 2015 07:09 PM (A6ryA)

if i am to be eaten, i would like to know what seasoning i should provide.

srsly though i think i'd do a masada.

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:14 PM (xpPRn)

107 Yeah, I'm gonna go read something mindless. Goodnight all!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at November 24, 2015 07:14 PM (+eR2D)

108 Like the Reavers in Firefly. "They'll rape us to death, eat our flesh and make clothes from our skin. And if we're really lucky, they'll do it in that order."
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at November 24, 2015 07:09 PM (A6ryA)
=============

Not if we do it to them first...

Posted by: Mustapha Kunt -- With a Wang! at November 24, 2015 07:15 PM (iQIUe)

109 why a masada?

lets get them before they get you

Posted by: Grad School Fool at November 24, 2015 07:15 PM (A9KzJ)

110 Yeah, I'm gonna go read something mindless. Goodnight all!
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at November 24, 2015 07:14 PM (+eR2D)

I'm here you don't need to Leave to read mindless!

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:15 PM (xpPRn)

111 srsly though i think i'd do a masada.

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:14 PM (xpPRn)

So much soy sauce that effer will *die* of thirst or bloating, or both.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 07:15 PM (bLnSU)

112 Matthew 10:21

And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 24, 2015 07:16 PM (NeFrd)

113 If you've seen the great TV series "Narcos," the bad guys, with Pablo Escobar as commander-in-chief, had no trouble at all waking up the elites who ran Columbia, when they ramped up the terror to include the killing and kidnapping of top-level family members.

It gets your attention when it's your niece, or wife.

But that's what I've said about the JEF: he and his family are as well-protected as anyone on earth, and he'll live the rest of his life that way. The terror will never touch him, ever.

Not unless total revolution. France and Louis XIV, Russia and the Czar, Iran and the Shah.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at November 24, 2015 07:16 PM (U6f54)

114 Shorter Muldoon: rejection of the concept of original sin

Posted by: L, Elle at November 24, 2015 07:07 PM (2x3L+)

In the Western tradition, Man ate from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, thereby trading immortality and paradise for morality. Lefties think that they can trade back this knowledge of morality and recover immortality and paradise.

This delusion is the motivation for the small percentage of true believer leftists. THe rest of the left are just weak, damaged personalities that have illusory out-of-control guilt swamping their emotions and react to that by hating their fathers and wanting to destroy everything that reminds them of their fathers and themselves - i.e. nihilistic self-haters who are out to destroy everything familiar.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 24, 2015 07:17 PM (zc3Db)

115 106 Like the Reavers in Firefly. "They'll rape us to death, eat our flesh and make clothes from our skin. And if we're really lucky, they'll do it in that order."
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at November 24, 2015 07:09 PM (A6ryA)

if i am to be eaten, i would like to know what seasoning i should provide.

srsly though i think i'd do a masada.
Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:14 PM (xpPRn)

Ancient hilltop fortress in Israel? Interesting choice. I'd go with a dry rub and finish with a Kansas City style BBQ sauce.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at November 24, 2015 07:17 PM (A6ryA)

116 I'm here you don't need to Leave to read mindless!

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:15 PM (xpPRn)

OK, but lets talk about something fun. Fuck the leftists and fuck Islam.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at November 24, 2015 07:19 PM (+eR2D)

117 Ancient hilltop fortress in Israel? Interesting choice. I'd go with a dry rub and finish with a Kansas City style BBQ sauce.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at November 24, 2015 07:17 PM

had to delete my response.

(have had a glass of wine)

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:19 PM (xpPRn)

118 If not for the actions of the passengers on Flight 93 flying across Pennsylvania towards Washington DC on September 11th, our 'betters' in the nations capitol would have received a monumental kick to the ball sack that would only rival the 'Big Bang' for cosmic reverberations.

Unfortunately, half the USA population can't even process the fact that the earth revolves around the sun. I'm sure a couple hundred thousand Syrian 'refugees' are smarter.

Posted by: free range jihadist at November 24, 2015 07:20 PM (7v/r5)

119 what was the deal was between Izvolsky and the AHE

plus, wtf were the Serbs thinking as they discussed the July ultimatum - the records are few

Posted by: Feh at November 24, 2015 07:20 PM (Uk9e2)

120 What's a melodramatic depressive do with an inductive- can't even set his face on fire.

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 24, 2015 07:20 PM (K4Ejl)

121
OK, but lets talk about something fun. Fuck the leftists and fuck Islam.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at November 24, 2015 07:19 PM (+eR2D)

i would never do either willingly

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:20 PM (xpPRn)

122 Fuck the leftists and fuck Islam.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at November 24, 2015 07:19 PM (+eR2D)

Only if they're hot!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 07:22 PM (bLnSU)

123 I've noticed that the people with Secret Service protection seem to have a different view of danger than some of the rest of us. People that can afford to, and do, pay for bodyguards also seem to have a different view of danger as well.

But, up until Obraindead came along I never thought any of them would decide that nukes wouldn't get them, too.

Posted by: jc at November 24, 2015 07:22 PM (iRJ+A)

124 so, fun. eh?

thinking thinking.

family blog.

ok do you do turkey with cranberry sauce or gravy?

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:22 PM (xpPRn)

125 i know a hot ex-iranian

Posted by: Feh at November 24, 2015 07:22 PM (Uk9e2)

126 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 24, 2015 07:16 PM (NeFrd)

Not a happy part of the New Testament.

That's why I stick to the straightforward blood and guts of the Old Testament.

And the sex...lots of sex.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 24, 2015 07:22 PM (Zu3d9)

127 both and

Posted by: Feh at November 24, 2015 07:23 PM (Uk9e2)

128 ok do you do turkey with cranberry sauce or gravy?

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:22 PM (xpPRn)

Gravy.

Not a fan of cran.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 07:23 PM (bLnSU)

129 ok do you do turkey with cranberry sauce or gravy?

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:22 PM (xpPRn)

We have both, but I like gravy.

Friday I'll make us two pumpkin pies, a turkey, gravy, stuffing with hard boiled eggs, stuffing with potatoes, green beans and open a can of cranberry sauce.

Mmmmmm I can't wait.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at November 24, 2015 07:24 PM (+eR2D)

130 >>> ok do you do turkey with cranberry sauce or gravy?

False choice. Both.

Posted by: fluffy at November 24, 2015 07:24 PM (AfsKp)

131 My favorite holiday dish is a wild rice casserole my wife makes.
And my granddaughters make me smile.

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 24, 2015 07:24 PM (K4Ejl)

132 i know a hot ex-iranian

Posted by: Feh at November 24, 2015 07:22 PM (Uk9e2)

Jeez, Iranian ladies - yeah, quite the gene pool.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 07:24 PM (bLnSU)

133 122 Fuck the leftists and fuck Islam.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at November 24, 2015 07:19 PM (+eR2D)

Only if they're hot!
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 07:22 PM (bLnSU)

Stupid European chicks seem to go for that.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at November 24, 2015 07:24 PM (A6ryA)

134 what i hate about thanskiging

lefties knocking down tradition

rubbing kosher salt inside the very cold raw bird, wondering if something will pull me inside.

arguments over stuffing inside the bird or outside.

hoping any pie is left bt time i finish washing one hundred dishes

not having enough wine for amt of guests

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:25 PM (xpPRn)

135 well i'm not in the game myself but not everyone thinks gene pool - more like "swimming pool"

Posted by: Feh at November 24, 2015 07:26 PM (Uk9e2)

136 Sadly, my revision and repost of a short article I wrote for another site (link in my nick) was proven horrifically apropos.
And sadly predictable have been the same old calls for candlelit kumbayah
circle-jerks, and the same old deflections and denials from our
so-called solons. Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

Posted by: goozer at November 24, 2015 07:26 PM (eqw7N)

137 Stupid European chicks seem to go for that.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at November 24, 2015 07:24 PM (A6ryA)

UK headline: "I moved to Iraq to join ISIS, started a feminist organization, and they cut off my head!"

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 07:26 PM (bLnSU)

138 What bugs me about holiday feasts- people who don't pass dishes on.

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 24, 2015 07:27 PM (K4Ejl)

139 can iranians be x?

o man i love cranberry!

i'll accept fluffys answer the rest of you

pfft!

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:27 PM (xpPRn)

140 134 what i hate about thanskiging

lefties knocking down tradition

rubbing kosher salt inside the very cold raw bird, wondering if something will pull me inside.

arguments over stuffing inside the bird or outside.

hoping any pie is left bt time i finish washing one hundred dishes

not having enough wine for amt of guests
Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:25 PM (xpPRn)

--You forgot: stores now having sales on Thanksgiving evening.

Posted by: logprof at November 24, 2015 07:27 PM (vsbNu)

141 my favorite part of thanksgiving as a kid was the sucking sound the cranberry jelly made as it shuddered out of the upturned can

Posted by: Feh at November 24, 2015 07:28 PM (Uk9e2)

142 I would give not one single solitary fcuk what leftists thought or believed if not for the fact that innocent people (us) will suffer because of their evil acts.

Posted by: Eromero at November 24, 2015 07:28 PM (b+df9)

143 >>rubbing kosher salt inside the very cold raw bird, wondering if something will pull me inside.

That's disturbing.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2015 07:28 PM (/tuJf)

144 >>Every day they thrown gays off rooftops to their deaths and not a peep from the freaking gay rights crowd. Why?

Heck, on the day of ths SCOTUS ruling on SSM ISIS was tweeting video of this with the hashtag #LoveWins.
They must be wondering what they must do to get through it THAT went ignored. I know I do.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 24, 2015 07:28 PM (NOIQH)

145 I've never put the stuffing in the bird. Probably because I have to make multiple kinds. Instead, I brown turkey wings (if I can find them) and set them on top of the pans of stuffing, cover and bake.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at November 24, 2015 07:28 PM (+eR2D)

146 "Men without Chests". "The Dove Keepers" . Some of us are there but a lot choose not to be.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 24, 2015 07:29 PM (YhLK9)

147 iranians are not hot, but some persian girls?

hot

Posted by: Feh at November 24, 2015 07:29 PM (Uk9e2)

148 My favorite cranberry comes in a can and still has the can's rings on the dumped out cranberry. NOT

Posted by: Ronster at November 24, 2015 07:29 PM (mUa7N)

149 willow: cranberry!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 24, 2015 07:30 PM (NOIQH)

150 That's disturbing.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 24, 2015 07:28 PM (/tuJf)

but one never knows for sure!

and i'm always all alone in the wee hours with two birds, how d i know they won't gang up on me!?

punish me for the wanton murder of their family members?

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:30 PM (xpPRn)

151 Just finished rubbing kosher salt, fresh rosemary, and lemon zest into raw turkey. Inside and out.

{{{{{{shudder}}}}}}

Tomorrow, I remove the plastic wrap, and allow the bird to air dry overnight in the garage frig. It produces a translucent skin. Which becomes a crisp, glorious bird.

Thanks, Ina Garten.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 24, 2015 07:30 PM (FsuaD)

152 arguments over stuffing inside the bird or outside.

Eat the stuff from outside, stuff with aromatics but don't eat that goop.

hoping any pie is left bt time i finish washing one hundred dishes

I'm sorry, if they don't save pie for you, they don't deserve you!

not having enough wine for amt of guests
Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:25 PM (xpPRn)

How many cases did you buy?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 07:31 PM (bLnSU)

153 A small part of what I like about Thanksgiving dinner- the fact Im the only one in the family who likes giblets.
And the fact my wife is always looking for someone lonely to bless.

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 24, 2015 07:31 PM (K4Ejl)

154 >>> I've never put the stuffing in the bird.

That's not stuffing, it's dressing.

It's like ass-less chaps. If they cover the ass they are pants.

Posted by: fluffy at November 24, 2015 07:31 PM (AfsKp)

155 To quote the great philosopher Vas Deferens, "Do not hunt the goat until he has descended from the mountain."

lol. If I didn't just have prostate surgery, I would have never blinked at that one.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at November 24, 2015 07:31 PM (J9FkY)

156 just so you all know, lizzy is a keeper.

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:31 PM (xpPRn)

157 but you can carve it into fun shapes, like internal organs

Posted by: Feh at November 24, 2015 07:31 PM (Uk9e2)

158 142
Will suffer?
Let me add "have suffered" and "are currently suffering"

Posted by: Naes at November 24, 2015 07:31 PM (Ypc8j)

159 I'm sorry, if they don't save pie for you, they don't deserve you!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 07:31 PM (bLnSU)

I know!

if only i could run away from home

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:33 PM (xpPRn)

160 Ayeyiyi people are so picky about words.

It will be interesting to see what my BIL has for Thanksgiving "dinner" this year. BBQ? Cold cut platter? Ham? Dried-out turkey?

There's a reason I cook an entire meal on Friday for Mr.DG and myself.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at November 24, 2015 07:33 PM (+eR2D)

161 and i'm always all alone in the wee hours with two birds, how d i know they won't gang up on me!?
punish me for the wanton murder of their family members?
Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:30 PM (xpPRn)

Cause you're really, really grateful that God made them so very, very tasty.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at November 24, 2015 07:33 PM (0NdlF)

162 What would you get if Obama didn't have any friends?

A chapless ass.

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 24, 2015 07:33 PM (K4Ejl)

163 and i'm always all alone in the wee hours with two birds, how d i know they won't gang up on me!?

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:30 PM (xpPRn)

Oh, come on, people! We're Apex Predators for crying out loud!

Grizzly Adams killed bears *with knives*!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 07:34 PM (bLnSU)

164 >>Thanks, Ina Garten.

YUM. Saw on her show a turkey breast rolled up w/sausage, fig, cranberry and veggie stuffing.OMG - I have to make this some time (for smaller gathering)

Posted by: Lizzy at November 24, 2015 07:34 PM (NOIQH)

165 Pablo Escobar as commander-in-chief, had no trouble at all waking up the elites who ran Columbia, when they ramped up the terror to include the killing and kidnapping of top-level family members.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at November 24, 2015 07:16 PM (U6f54)

==============

Boy, that's for sure. Kids, babies...

And then Los Pepes started doing it back to him.

Posted by: Mustapha Kunt -- With a Wang! at November 24, 2015 07:34 PM (iQIUe)

166 Just finished rubbing kosher salt, fresh rosemary, and lemon zest into raw turkey. Inside and out.

{{{{{{shudder}}}}}}

Tomorrow, I remove the plastic wrap, and allow the bird to air dry overnight in the garage frig. It produces a translucent skin. Which becomes a crisp, glorious bird.

Thanks, Ina Garten.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 24, 2015 07:30 PM (FsuaD)

See! Jane knows how absolutely icky it is.

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:34 PM (xpPRn)

167 if only i could run away from home

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:33 PM (xpPRn)

I'll set a place for you!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 07:34 PM (bLnSU)

168 Nood is up.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at November 24, 2015 07:34 PM (0NdlF)

169 willow, come to my house on Friday. I will feed you plenty of pie.

(I'm sure this will be twisted...)

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at November 24, 2015 07:34 PM (+eR2D)

170 as it is, he's an assless chap

Posted by: Feh at November 24, 2015 07:35 PM (Uk9e2)

171 I'm still trying to figure out how PETA thinks eating turkey is cannibalistic.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 24, 2015 07:35 PM (FsuaD)

172 The primary problem is the left views Western Civilization as their prime ideological enemy. not Islam. The secondary problem is too many have appeased the left only making them stronger, see "compassionate conservatism". Islam has simply taken advantage of those internal faults which if not fixed soon will take the west down.

That is why the next Civil War will be a battle for the entire civilization...from Europe to America.

The smart move is to tie the left to Islam and let Islam take the left down with them. To do that we have to stop playing nice on our side and say lots of bad (and true) things about Islam and the left and put them in the same cart. That is why even if you do not like Trump, at least learn from him. You have to be rough with those who want to do you harm...including the left.

Lots of collateral damage in that, but if we want to survive as a civilization we have no choice.

Posted by: William Eaton at November 24, 2015 07:35 PM (q52Ma)

173 Oh, come on, people! We're Apex Predators for crying out loud!

Grizzly Adams killed bears *with knives*!
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 07:34 PM (bLnSU)

can i admit here i've never prepared an animal that someone else didn't shove into a wrapper with a price tag on it?

don't hate me i have other attributes!

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:36 PM (xpPRn)

174 I'm still trying to figure out how PETA thinks eating turkey is cannibalistic.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 24, 2015 07:35 PM (FsuaD)

They identify as turkeys.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 07:36 PM (bLnSU)

175 don't hate me i have other attributes!

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:36 PM (xpPRn)

*woof*

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 07:36 PM (bLnSU)

176 Nood is up.
~~~
Saw the content. I'd rather stay here.

Posted by: fluffy at November 24, 2015 07:36 PM (AfsKp)

177 168 Nood is up.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at November 24, 2015 07:34 PM (0NdlF)

--Eh, this one's more interesting.

Posted by: logprof at November 24, 2015 07:37 PM (vsbNu)

178 willow, come to my house on Friday. I will feed you plenty of pie.

(I'm sure this will be twisted...)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at November 24, 2015 07:34 PM (+eR2D)

i'll bring the wine

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:37 PM (xpPRn)

179 ok y'all are making my hungry when I'm trying to take it easy tonight!

My brother is apparently making the turkey this year so I'm a little scared it will not be edible...

Posted by: Lea at November 24, 2015 07:37 PM (vmMMi)

180 This post is great, great stuff.

I think more people should watch those ISIS videos on Liveleak.

Fair warning they're fucking horrific, but you will quickly understand these cockroaches mean business and they're not putting on some show just for shits and giggles. They WILL kill you and yours and they're proud of it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 24, 2015 07:39 PM (4ErVI)

181 "willow, Apex Predator" has a certain ring to it.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at November 24, 2015 07:40 PM (0NdlF)

182 142 I would give not one single solitary fcuk what leftists thought or believed if not for the fact that innocent people (us) will suffer because of their evil acts.

Well...I've had a good life. If I have to go out soldiering in my own neighborhood I'm good with that. Besides, they will suffer far more. They will lose.
A good read, the biography of William Tecumseh Sherman.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 24, 2015 07:40 PM (VAVIJ)

183 How can we defeat an enemy if we can't even agree on a name for them? This ISIS/ISIL/Daesh nonsense is crazy.

And the idea that you let the enemy know that you are going to bomb them because the truck drivers might not be true believers is just insane.

Posted by: notsothoreau at November 24, 2015 07:43 PM (5HBd1)

184 27 Weirddave, it's Ypres, not Ypers.

I Wrote this on a plane with no Wi-Fi, so I couldn't check. I basically spelled it the way that the Tommys pronounced it.

I'm just pleased I spelled Hadith right, I forgot to check once I got to Wi-Fi.

Posted by: Weirddave at November 24, 2015 07:44 PM (N8hFs)

185 "willow, Apex Predator" has a certain ring to it.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at November 24, 2015 07:40 PM (0NdlF)

Dark Willow from Buffy:

http://bit.ly/1LyehYG

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 24, 2015 07:44 PM (bLnSU)

186 Does anybody have Gabe's recipe for cranberry sauce that he posted here a couple of years ago? The one made with Bourbon? I lost his recipe in the Dreaded Gnome incident of '14.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at November 24, 2015 07:45 PM (dFi94)

187 Dark Willow from Buffy:

Do not taunt Happy Fun willow.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at November 24, 2015 07:47 PM (0NdlF)

188 "willow, Apex Predator" has a certain ring to it.
~~~

"Has willow made it to the new thread?"

"No, she is still devouring the stragglers in the last one."

Posted by: fluffy at November 24, 2015 07:47 PM (AfsKp)

189 am not.

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:49 PM (xpPRn)

190 grammie i don't and don't know how to reach back into the old blog memory,

ask gabe on twtiter?

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:50 PM (xpPRn)

191 >>>"No, she is still devouring the stragglers in the last one."

Posted by: fluffy at November 24, 2015 07:47 PM (AfsKp)<<<

... with cranberry sauce!

Posted by: half eaten straggler at November 24, 2015 07:51 PM (REdlt)

192 Is this it?

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/345266.php

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at November 24, 2015 07:51 PM (0NdlF)

193 ok, out to devour something in the real world.

Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:52 PM (xpPRn)

194 1 lb. of cranberries (about 4 cups). 2 cups sugar. 1/4 teaspoon ground cinnamon. 1/4 cup bourbon.

Preheat the oven to 350�F. Combine first 3 ingredients in 9x13-inch baking dish. Cover tightly with foil and bake until cranberries are tender and sugar is dissolved, stirring once, about 1 hour. Remove from oven and stir in bourbon. Refrigerate cranberry sauce until well chilled. Keeps for about a week. Transfer to bowl and serve.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at November 24, 2015 07:52 PM (0NdlF)

195 ok, out to devour something in the real world.
Posted by: willow at November 24, 2015 07:52 PM (xpPRn)

Devouring us virtual friends not sating enough?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at November 24, 2015 07:53 PM (0NdlF)

196
my favorite part of thanksgiving as a kid was the sucking sound the cranberry jelly made as it shuddered out of the upturned can

Yeah. That's normal.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at November 24, 2015 07:55 PM (ApM8l)

197 Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at November 24, 2015 07:52 PM (0NdlF)
================================================

THAT'S IT !! You have saved Thanksgiving !!! Thank you thank you!

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at November 24, 2015 07:57 PM (dFi94)

198 "Post WWI the West recoiled from what it had done (only to do it again a
generation later) and allowed a societal rot to take root and spread.
Since traditional morals had so failed Christendom, then they must be
done away with and replaced."

Now you know why I built Dana Barrett's apartment building.

Posted by: Evo Shandor at November 24, 2015 07:57 PM (amQXf)

199 I've already made turkey twice this month and made turkey soup today. And I've done a ham too. (I love it when ham and turkey go on sale.) Not sure yet what I'll do for Thanksgiving. As long as I make pie, I think we'll be fine.

Wonder how the cranberry sauce would taste like with rum instead of bourbon?

Posted by: notsothoreau at November 24, 2015 08:01 PM (5HBd1)

200 I have had this theory:

The leftists on top, like Obama, Clinton, etc., are so protected they don't worry about anything happening to them or their wealthy lives.

The regular leftists among the hoi polloi figure the odds are statistically that nothing will happen to them personally.

Neither group cares about anyone else. Both get to feel all sanctimonious and superior at little risk to themselves. And both think their viewpoints are worth much more than a few other people's lives.

Regarding treatment of women and gays, they just don't talk about that. I guess it kind of bothers or embarrasses them.

In any case, they consider it the duty of other people to die for their beliefs. Besides, they figure most of us (themselves excluded) aren't worth saving anyway, and are inferior to the noble, misunderstood savages.

I think they figure we remain racist xenophobic everything-else-phobe-and-ist DESPITE their teachings, while people like radical Muslims simply haven't been sufficiently exposed to their enlightened viewpoints yet. They imagine this group can be loved and "understood" enough to eventually come around to proper pc outlooks.

Or something like that.

Posted by: Alana at November 24, 2015 08:09 PM (ZEn7S)

201 "How can we defeat out enemies if we refuse to take them seriously?"

There are two different "we's" in that sentence. How can we expect to live if we cannot differentiate between them? The answer is obvious - we cannot. The second "we" has to go.

A drubbing at the ballot box should be enough, but we have just seen that in the face of a corrupted media, it isn't. If we can do a clean sweep of incumbents, perhaps that will do it... nothing short of a purge will, clearly.

And if we don't do the purge now with our votes, how will we end up doing it short of violence?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at November 24, 2015 08:21 PM (QGbEp)

202 How does one say "Don't shoot! I know secrets!" In Arabic?

Posted by: Diogenes at November 24, 2015 06:58 PM (VAVIJ)

Derka derka!

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at November 24, 2015 08:26 PM (dPpmC)

203 "And that leaves us screwed. How can we defeat out enemies if we refuse to take them seriously?"

_______________________________________________

Well, our enemies aren't gonna sit around waiting for us to get our acts together, so the stupid arrogance will either be swept aside politically, or violently, depending on how desperate the situation has become. Much damage will be done that could have been avoided, but the survival instinct will eventually cull this idiocy one way or the other.

Posted by: NotCoach at November 24, 2015 08:28 PM (jU7Af)

204 Grammie!:

1 lb. of cranberries (about 4 cups).
2 cups sugar.
1/4 teaspoon ground cinnamon.
1/4 cup bourbon.

Preheat the oven to 350�F. Combine first 3 ingredients in 9x13-inch
baking dish. Cover tightly with foil and bake until cranberries are
tender and sugar is dissolved, stirring once, about 1 hour. Remove from
oven and stir in bourbon. Refrigerate cranberry sauce until well
chilled. Keeps for about a week. Transfer to bowl and serve.

Posted by: Bob in Houston at November 24, 2015 09:09 PM (b7AU3)

205 /types

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Er...well spoken.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at November 24, 2015 09:49 PM (m9V0o)

206 "How can we defeat out enemies if we refuse to take them seriously?"

Simple. We have to recognize that our enemies include those elites and their dupes, and kill as many of them as necessary to remove them from any positions of authority that stop us from dealing with the rest of our enemies.

It won't be easy, but it is terribly simple, once we admit the reality.

Posted by: SDN at November 24, 2015 10:35 PM (Y+SJ+)

207 541 The Pizza Huts?
Posted by: Willy J. at November 24, 2015 10:31 PM (wHX4r)

*****

Do those even exist in Chicago? They did not when I was growing up there.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at November 24, 2015 10:32 PM (xNYi9)

unpossible....with the 'legendary' chicago style pizza..how could they survive?

Posted by: Doom Rider at November 24, 2015 10:35 PM (ck8TA)

208 Throughout history when the dominant civilization became effete and incompetent the weak-minded and evil flocked to barbarism. If said civilization succumbed, a dark age ensued that often lasted centuries.

Posted by: TBlakely at November 25, 2015 01:09 PM (dbtJE)

209 "...what all of these smug assholes fail to accept, steeped as they are in
their philosophy of self and blinded by the myth of their superior
intellects, is that there are billions of people out there who do not
subscribe to their selfish worldview..."

If you replace the word "billions" in the above with "many", you have the French Revolution (FR1.0). At that time, poor illiterates vastly outnumbered the middle class and elites. The illiterates won and pretty much account for the subsequent French history. A modern version of the French Revolution (World Revolution (WR2.0)) would be somewhat different. Today, the first world's middle class is as well educated as the elite assholes and is not nearly as subscribed to their selfish worldview. If a pogrom against the elites (and some troublesome poor folks too) started up, the results should be better than FR1.

...extract tongue from cheek...

Posted by: Ceteris Paribus at November 25, 2015 09:31 PM (lQqJB)

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