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France Manages a Feat Obama Never Could -- Successfully Locating Raqqa on a Pilot's Map
Twenty bombs dropped on the ISIS/Daesh capital city of Raqqa -- the biggest airstrike on Syria in the war, which is hardly surprising, since up 'til now Obama's been the quarterback.
@frednavarro Aftermath footage of 30 airstrikes conducted by #France targeting the outskirts of #IS controlled Raqqa
pic.twitter.com/9veypYQPJn
— Jeffs (@jeffs_araujo35) November 15, 2015VIDÉO. 10 chasseurs français ont lâché 20 bombes sur #Raqqa le fief de l' #Étatislamique #EI en #Syrie https://t.co/9dQDs7jNzo
— FRANCE 24 Français (@France24_fr) November 15, 2015Background: Raqqa is the capital city of the Jihadi Empire. Vice did a special about it. It's a city the jihadis have kept in reasonably good shape -- because it's a showcase city, where jihadis vacation and luxuriate. They get married there. It's a prestige city. It's also their military headquarters. Why does it still exist after two years of Obama's phony Public Relations war? Oh, I guess I answered my own question.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: JeanQ Flyover at November 15, 2015 05:08 PM (044Fx)
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at November 15, 2015 05:08 PM (zOTsN)
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Posted by: Vic-we have no party at November 15, 2015 05:09 PM (t2KH5)
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Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at November 15, 2015 05:12 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2015 05:13 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at November 15, 2015 05:13 PM (oVJmc)
This country is so screwed. I barely recognize it any more.
Posted by: Wind Breaker at November 15, 2015 05:13 PM (V4s8f)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 05:13 PM (ISjLj)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 05:14 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at November 15, 2015 05:14 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: pResident dumbass at November 15, 2015 05:14 PM (044Fx)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 15, 2015 05:15 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 05:15 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Too Cynical By Half at November 15, 2015 05:15 PM (oiBkc)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 15, 2015 05:16 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 05:16 PM (qCMvj)
And even better for Michigan's governor for halting muzzie immigration until there's a thorough security review of DHS vetting of those animals.
Dearbornistan hardest hit, like I care.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 15, 2015 05:16 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 15, 2015 05:17 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: typical Dem retaliation strategy at November 15, 2015 05:17 PM (REdlt)
It wouldn't in the least surprise me from President Valerie's Bitch.
Posted by: JEM at November 15, 2015 05:18 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: grammie winger, 87 at November 15, 2015 05:18 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: HH at November 15, 2015 05:18 PM (DrCtv)
Posted by: Abe Vigoda at November 15, 2015 05:19 PM (OiFtZ)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 05:19 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion at November 15, 2015 05:19 PM (oiBkc)
Posted by: Barak Insane Obamao at November 15, 2015 05:19 PM (22uju)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 05:19 PM (ISjLj)
Caption: Ten French fighter jets drop twenty bombs on Raqqa the stronghold [of ISIS]
we know where they all are
do it
I only hope and pray we all got our undercover ops out of there...
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 05:19 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: LGoPs at November 15, 2015 05:20 PM (jqzUb)
We have the ability to dump twenty times the tonnage on ISIS every day of the week until the end of Obama's Presidency if necessary, but you can be sure Valerie and Samantha and Susan won't let that happen even if ISIS blew up Palm Springs.
Posted by: JEM at November 15, 2015 05:20 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion at November 15, 2015 05:19 PM (oiBkc)
This message approved by Netanyahu.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 05:20 PM (qCMvj)
Michael Goodwin (who admits to voting for Barry in '0
calls for Choom Boy to man up or resign, in the NY Post. Like the JEF would give up his Precious AF One and his vacations. My husband is furious.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2015 05:21 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 05:22 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: no good deed at November 15, 2015 05:22 PM (GgxVX)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 05:22 PM (ISjLj)
Posted by: PaleRider at November 15, 2015 05:22 PM (iA/+T)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at November 15, 2015 05:09 PM (t2KH5)
the libs and libertarians love him still, for not bombing... they adore him for that
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 05:23 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: JeanQ Flyover at November 15, 2015 05:23 PM (044Fx)
Posted by: pookysgirl at November 15, 2015 05:23 PM (K27gs)
It would seem to me that a halting of the invasion and mass deportation would be the only real effective strategy at this point.
Posted by: other_joe_mama at November 15, 2015 05:23 PM (1QK5Y)
Well of course they see that.
Which makes their inaction and impotence a willful and deliberate policy.
Draw your own conclusions as to why.
Posted by: LGoPs at November 15, 2015 05:23 PM (jqzUb)
>> vacations.
Think I've said this before: Obama's behaving like some corporate CEO who knows he's gonna be fired but he's damn well committed to getting every last mile out of the company jet and every last perk out of the company's vendors before he gets the boot up his ass.
Of course, I thought that prior to his reelection, and the voters of this country gave him another four years to act like the incompetent asshole he his.
Which really means that maybe we should take some Mideast refugees on a 1-1 exchange with American academics.
Posted by: JEM at November 15, 2015 05:24 PM (o+SC1)
They are rushed by the police, forcibly arrested, and shoved into the backs of patrol cars, while a crowd of Parisian leftists jeer them and make mock Nazi salutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szrDQ6aSPIk
You can't fix stupid and you can't cure crazy.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 15, 2015 05:24 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: pookysgirl at November 15, 2015 05:25 PM (K27gs)
Posted by: Colin at November 15, 2015 05:25 PM (8BlfF)
Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2015 05:26 PM (vsbNu)
BO countered that we in the US will be eating arugula.
Posted by: pep at November 15, 2015 05:27 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: LGoPs at November 15, 2015 05:20 PM (jqzUb)
Hey! The food thread is down there.
Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2015 05:27 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2015 05:27 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at November 15, 2015 05:27 PM (Z+ic4)
Well of course they see that.
Which makes their inaction and impotence a willful and deliberate policy.
Draw your own conclusions as to why.
I already have: they want this to happen.
We're entering into the third generation of modern muzz terrorism. Many of these so-called "leaders" were born into it. Hence, there is absolutely no way they could be unaware of the threat and where it originates. It is a psychological impossibility.
They are not on our side.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 15, 2015 05:27 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: chemjeff at November 15, 2015 05:29 PM (uZNvH)
The thing is that the French have the capacity to keep this up for, oh, a week.
That really is the main point. They can't undo 50 years of shorting their defense budgets in favor of welfare overnight. Saving money on the military is great until you really need it. Then it kind of sucks.
Posted by: pep at November 15, 2015 05:29 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at November 15, 2015 05:29 PM (zOTsN)
Hello Tipper, it's Al. I'm hunkered down in a hotel in Paris to avoid the carnage on the streets. Call me when you believe it safe for me to leave for the airport. I'm so frightened, but will try and man-up to get through this nightmare without crying or acting like a wuss.
*******
Al, you simpering pussy, don't call me bitch!
Tipper
Posted by: Al Gore at November 15, 2015 05:30 PM (OiFtZ)
Posted by: Daybrother at November 15, 2015 05:30 PM (DGD9u)
who knows he's gonna be fired but he's damn well committed to getting
every last mile out of the company jet and every last perk out of the
company's vendors before he gets the boot up his ass."
It's been opined by several members of the Horde that the Obama administration is one huge "bust-out".
That's a term of art in organized crime. Mafiosi will take over control of an existing business with good credit terms, exploit those terms to buy a ton of wholesale merchandise, sell it for cash, and disappear without making any repayment, leaving the business in ruins and bankruptcy.
What we've seen in the last seven years is the political equivalent of a bust-out, on a national scale. Obama and company doing everything they can to funnel hundreds of billions of dollars, borrowed on public authority, to connected cronies. With the public left on the hook for paying back the borrowed money later on.
And of course taking every opportunity while they're running the scam to live it up at the expense of others.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 15, 2015 05:30 PM (noWW6)
20 bombs an hour would be better, til the place was nothing but dust and jihadi DNA particles.
We'll see how long it keeps up.
But you're right, and if they don't sanitize the Parisian suburbs, it's not going to be enough.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 05:30 PM (JqEq4)
(Sorry, but I'm REALLY tired of the Gov and the media whitewashing this entire world war as "workplace violence". We are in a war of annihilation, only we don't want to admit it.)
Posted by: Vukdawg at November 15, 2015 05:31 PM (5Ym7Z)
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at November 15, 2015 05:31 PM (zOTsN)
demonstrate against Islam in the wake of the attacks. No violent
behavior from them, merely holding a banner.
They are rushed by
the police, forcibly arrested, and shoved into the backs of patrol cars,
while a crowd of Parisian leftists jeer them and make mock Nazi
salutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szrDQ6aSPIk
You can't fix stupid and you can't cure crazy.
These leftists are of the same ilk that cooperated with the Germans in Vichy France. Despicable. Clearly collaberation is in their DNA.
I can only hope that they will find that cooperating with the Germans will seem like a picnic compared to what Islam will do to them. And I will have no pity.
Posted by: LGoPs at November 15, 2015 05:31 PM (jqzUb)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 05:31 PM (ISjLj)
Announce the person's name for each day. 'Today, we avenge Francois LeSmith.'
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at November 15, 2015 05:32 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Colin at November 15, 2015 05:32 PM (8BlfF)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 15, 2015 05:33 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: CMU VET at November 15, 2015 05:33 PM (ejB0r)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 15, 2015 05:33 PM (u82oZ)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/o33ss4v
Posted by: JeanQ Flyover at November 15, 2015 05:23 PM (044Fx)
a little Spartacus!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euMuCRx7qhA
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 05:33 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 15, 2015 05:33 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: pep at November 15, 2015 05:34 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at November 15, 2015 05:34 PM (zOTsN)
Sent her and that CNN muzz whatshisname to Iran.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2015 05:34 PM (FsuaD)
Are people unable to grasp this? By people I mean brain dead liberals. Ok never mind, I answered my own question.
Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, The Highlander at November 15, 2015 05:34 PM (COpZ4)
France's air force was only able to mount about a week's worth of tactical air sorties in Mali before they simply ran out of ordnance.
They're a strategic nuclear power with multiple forms of warhead delivery available to them, but there just isn't much if any conventional warfare depth behind the nukes.
All the money got sucked up by the French welfare state.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 15, 2015 05:34 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 05:34 PM (JqEq4)
The boo hooing commences:
Hisham Rana, MD
It is wrong to see Twitter cheer these airstrikes. How many innocent civilians in Raqqa died?
Winston winstonsmith121
We'll never know how many innocent people just died in or how many survivors were driven into arms of extremists. Another tragedy.
Farce
The human race is supposed to be the smartest of all? Dropping bombs from the sky on villages is just as evil as using guns on land
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 15, 2015 05:35 PM (kdS6q)
I already have: they want this to happen.
We're entering into the third generation of modern muzz terrorism. Many of these so-called "leaders" were born into it. Hence, there is absolutely no way they could be unaware of the threat and where it originates. It is a psychological impossibility.
They are not on our side.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 15, 2015 05:27 PM (LUgeY)
I have reached the same conclusion.
Which raises several questions: Why? What's in it for them? Do they really believe that a Muslim-dominated world is desirable? Because that is certainly where their policies are leading.
I have my own ideas on the matter, but I'll let someone else take a stab at it.
Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2015 05:35 PM (sdi6R)
For what it's worth, I am all for them using their nuclear arsenal.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 05:35 PM (JqEq4)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at November 15, 2015 05:36 PM (oVJmc)
ULULULULULULULU!"
Perhaps we should give responses like this a serious thought.
Nothing says "Fcuk you" like appropriating portions of their own culture.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 15, 2015 05:36 PM (ptqRm)
The same France that did everything they could to undermine us after 9/11 and buy off every third-rate shithole country on the security council to vote against us in the run-up to Iraq? That France? The same France that would shield terrorists and murderers from extradiction to America because the poor, widdle babies might have to face the death penalty for their heinous crimes? That France?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 15, 2015 05:36 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2015 05:37 PM (FsuaD)
I was watching CNN a bit this morning, and the French Senator Nathalie Goulet was on, live.
Her twitter description says this: I -heart- Nesfeh Jahan Senator vice-chairwoman of the foreign affairs committee,head of the investigation committee on jihadism,head of France-GCC friendship group
I couldn't believe what I was hearing.
She acknowledged that they (the French) were ashamed to call the Islamic extremists out by name, and the Salafists, and now they were not. That it was a mistake to not call them out before.
She said if you cannot define the enemy, you can not fight them... (sound familiar?)
She said the imams in mosques were the root of the problem!
And she said they need to kick out all of these foreigners, foreign enemies, like the imams!
The CNN talking empty head pushed her (I don't think she liked what she heard because in a not-so-subtle way, it smashed the obama and the democrat talking points all to heck, so she asked her to clarify, asking her about "citizens" of France being thrown out of the country. The Senators said, no, not citizens. The foreigners...
She said they needed better information gathering, databases, etc. and better intelligence.
The other critical thing she said is they have to figure out why/how that many of the converts to muslim were Christians. I think she said 40% of them were Christian converts. I don't get that either.
The Blaze had a snippet on her from a previous interview, too, which relates. I think this one was from yesterday. She was not mincing words this morning.
http://bit.ly/20TL5a7
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 05:37 PM (qCMvj)
So use the damned things. Go big or go home.
Posted by: CMU VET at November 15, 2015 05:37 PM (ejB0r)
Flatten Raqqa. FABs. Every. single. night.
Add in round the clock flights, targeting anything that moves in ISIS territory. Every vehicle, every camel. Empty the roads.
Six months, sweep up the pieces. No more ISIS.
It sounds cruel. It is. You know what else is cruel? Letting these jihadi behead one more person, take one more inchof ground, attack one more western city, plant one more bomb.
It is game over time.
Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at November 15, 2015 05:37 PM (oLnNK)
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at November 15, 2015 05:38 PM (lsGBr)
9/11 and buy off every third-rate shithole country on the security
council to vote against us in the run-up to Iraq? That France? The
same France that would shield terrorists and murderers from extradiction
to America because the poor, widdle babies might have to face the death
penalty for their heinous crimes? That France?
Brigitte Bardot, Catharine Deneuve, and Sophie Marceau. There is good in every country.
Posted by: pep at November 15, 2015 05:38 PM (LAe3v)
In one move, the United States could re-establish its place as big dog in the room, and eliminate one of the biggest universally despised eyesores since North Korea. Who would dare retaliate? Sure, they would give us all the verbal hell in the world but they wouldn't consider actually doing anything about it. We'd be back in charge.
Hell, if Obama did it, I'd forgive the last seven years instantly.
Posted by: S at November 15, 2015 05:39 PM (HCXGq)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 15, 2015 05:39 PM (zc3Db)
When the leaders of a church clearly stand for nothing other than virtue signaling, a religion tends to lose its appeal.
Posted by: pep at November 15, 2015 05:40 PM (LAe3v)
Putin Tells Everyone Exactly Who Created ISIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQuceU3x2Ww&feature=youtu.be
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 05:40 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 15, 2015 05:40 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 15, 2015 05:41 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: SMFH at November 15, 2015 05:41 PM (zyIlW)
Nice twitter brou ha ha brewing. Someone photo shopped an internet ahole wth a suicide vest on and spread it around. Some how another internet ahole, Arthur Chu, is some how involved and has me blocked even tho I have no idea who he is. This involves gamergate, which I also never followed.
Posted by: Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 15, 2015 05:41 PM (iQIUe)
Correct.
It's called total war.
Islamists have been total war for years.
We cannot even say the words Radical Islam.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 15, 2015 05:41 PM (08Znv)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 05:42 PM (ISjLj)
Posted by: Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 15, 2015 05:42 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: pep at November 15, 2015 05:38 PM (LAe3v)
They are beautiful but beautiful women are a dime a dozen. There are more gorgeous women in any square mile area of the Czech Republic than in all of France. And Bardot is a total lunatic and Deneuve seemed to like to use her beauty to push for perversion and humiliation - which was a shame beyond words.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 15, 2015 05:42 PM (zc3Db)
Oooooo....I like your vid even better!
*still dancing*
*hands out more candy*
Posted by: JeanQ Flyover at November 15, 2015 05:42 PM (044Fx)
France should take this opportunity to turn Mecca into a smoking hole. Obviously they aren't a serious people.
Where is Washington, Jefferson or Lafayette?
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at November 15, 2015 05:43 PM (lsGBr)
This guy claims it is libel. So,why is he republishing it on his own twitter feed?
Posted by: Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 15, 2015 05:43 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at November 15, 2015 05:43 PM (zOTsN)
You think 100 people dead is bad? Wait til you lose an entire city! Viva my le France my fucking ass. Stop with the platitudes, the prayers, the vigils, the speeches, the peace signs and all the bullshit. Fucking control your border so they cant get a fucking nuke into your country! This goes for the entire western world!
Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, The Highlander at November 15, 2015 05:44 PM (COpZ4)
Posted by: Secretariat of State Lurch Kerry at November 15, 2015 05:44 PM (REdlt)
Keep firing......
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 15, 2015 05:44 PM (ej1L0)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 05:42 PM (ISjLj)
++++++++++++++++++++
Maybe dropped a shiite-load of AP FASCAM.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 15, 2015 05:44 PM (T78UI)
Which raises several questions: Why? What's in it for them? Do they really believe that a Muslim-dominated world is desirable? Because that is certainly where their policies are leading.
I have my own ideas on the matter, but I'll let someone else take a stab at it.Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2015 05:35 PM (sdi6R) I tie it to the Yale/Mizzou protests. For fifty years the left attacked Western Culture and Western Civilization in universities all over America and Europe, and the result is that our leaders are at best indifferent or at worst openly hostile. They've grown up on a diet of propaganda about how the West is racist, enslaving, homophobic, and oppressive towards minorities. The result is that their instinct is to side with supposed "marginalized" groups, even when those groups are trying to kill them. We have leaders so trained that they are incapable of making a full-throated defense of W. Civ. The university protests were simply one endstate of this intellectual rot. The other is Paris.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at November 15, 2015 05:44 PM (fC9RO)
Posted by: Doom Rider at November 15, 2015 05:44 PM (ck8TA)
Posted by: PJ at November 15, 2015 05:46 PM (cHuNI)
Posted by: Colin at November 15, 2015 05:46 PM (8BlfF)
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at November 15, 2015 05:46 PM (zOTsN)
I wondered where all those idiots who run off to get married live. So, time to destroy Raqqa.
Posted by: Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 15, 2015 05:46 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Lauren at November 15, 2015 05:46 PM (LzzEz)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2015 05:46 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 05:46 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Doom Rider at November 15, 2015 05:44 PM (ck8TA)
Barky's still busy trying to figure out how to give Egypt back to his buddies in the muslim brotherhood - which is a "mostly secular organization", we're told.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 15, 2015 05:47 PM (zc3Db)
And Bardot is a total lunatic
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 15, 2015 05:42 PM (zc3Db)
Bardot has been in court repeatedly for "hate speech" charges because of her criticism of Islam, and the Islamization of France.
Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2015 05:47 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 15, 2015 05:46 PM (iQIUe)
marrying little girls
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 05:47 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 15, 2015 05:44 PM (T78UI)
Scratch that - should have laid the minefield first before hitting the primary targets.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 15, 2015 05:47 PM (T78UI)
Edward Shlikas*
US, France Saudi Arabia "Bomb,Bomb,Bomb" foreign policy in ME just creates more "terrorists" enmity towards them
*I am running for the U.S. Senate** for the People of Maryland. Shlikas will fix it!
**Independent. Shocked to find he isn't Libertarian
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 15, 2015 05:47 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 15, 2015 05:48 PM (ppaKI)
Right under the G-20's nose.
heh.
skynet talking about no leadership in the world
http://news.sky.com/watch-live
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 05:48 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: JEM at November 15, 2015 05:48 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2015 05:47 PM (sdi6R)
True. She worries about her female cats being circumcised.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 15, 2015 05:48 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 15, 2015 05:48 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 15, 2015 05:48 PM (iQIUe)
I'm sure Barry has a sad.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2015 05:48 PM (FsuaD)
-
We were promised shock and awe and I want some damn shock and awe. Dresden the bastards!
Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 15, 2015 05:48 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: anti-socialist at November 15, 2015 05:49 PM (o9lmn)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 05:49 PM (1ijHg)
When they start evicting mosques in the metropole then I'll believe they're serious.
Posted by: JEM at November 15, 2015 05:50 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: T at November 15, 2015 05:50 PM (NctcF)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2015 05:50 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: CMU VET at November 15, 2015 05:50 PM (ejB0r)
Ah, so that's where all those stupid Western girls that fly over there are? So much the better.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 15, 2015 05:50 PM (ppaKI)
Posted by: speedster1 at November 15, 2015 05:50 PM (1brdf)
Or the collapse of the Republic.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 05:51 PM (1ijHg)
In enterprise of martial kind,
When there was any fighting,
He led his regiment from behind
(He found it less exciting).
But when away his regiment ran,
His place was at the fore, O-
That celebrated,
Cultivated,
Underrated
Noble man,
The Duke of Plaza-Toro!
Gilbert and Sullivan had our fearless leader spot on.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 15, 2015 05:51 PM (l3vZN)
Laura Ingraham
AA flight #2124 from Boston to DC just evacuated two Middle Eastern men taken off the plane. Bomb sniffing dogs brought on.
Racism and Islamophobia once again rears its ugly head.....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 15, 2015 05:51 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at November 15, 2015 05:51 PM (zOTsN)
NEWSFLASH! CRACKPOT RIGHTWING COMMENTER SAYS OBAMA A MUSLIM, NO GOP CANDIDATE CONTRADICTS HIM.
MORE AT 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, AND EVERY HOUR FOR THE NEXT WEEK
Posted by: This is CNN at November 15, 2015 05:52 PM (o+SC1)
Excuse me, but this is fucking stupid.
Why bomb people and things thousands of miles away? Okay, fine, bomb them, too.
But the FIRST people and places you bomb are the immediate threats in your own backyard.
France is a bunch of pussies. If they had any balls and they really wanted to stop and punish ISIS they'd start bombing mosques in France and rounding up Muslim men.
The bombing they did might put a dent in ISIS, but how did it remedy the big problem France has with islamic extremists who are already in France??
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at November 15, 2015 05:52 PM (b8qru)
The mosques don't need to be burned. They just need to be closed.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 05:52 PM (1ijHg)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 05:52 PM (ISjLj)
US, France Saudi Arabia "Bomb,Bomb,Bomb" foreign policy in ME just creates more "terrorists" enmity towards them
*I am running for the U.S. Senate** for the People of Maryland. Shlikas will fix it!
**Independent. Shocked to find he isn't Libertarian
If whoever's opposing him (and I certainly hope someone is), they should be having a field day with that tweet. That imbecile would be glad to see another terrorist attack here.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 15, 2015 05:52 PM (LUgeY)
If a guy down who lives down the street, along with his buddies, goes to your house and wreaks havoc, are you going to go to his country of origin of kill his relatives??
No, you'd go after the men who attacked you and everyone in the neighborhood who aids and abets them.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at November 15, 2015 05:52 PM (b8qru)
Bardot is an old lady who hurts no one. Yet, they are always attacking her. Fk them!
Posted by: Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 15, 2015 05:52 PM (iQIUe)
1. France is full of piss and vinegar right now and, while I admire (though barely recognize) their swift and decisive action, I'm afraid they'll make a show of it then return to life as usual.
2. The yelling in that vid sounded an awful lot like "Fuck the French pigs. They will pay with their blood for this!"
No. I don't speak the language.
France is in the shit now. There's no turning back.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 15, 2015 05:53 PM (PMlgt)
You've never been in a Labor and Delivery ward I take it?
Posted by: Lauren at November 15, 2015 05:53 PM (LzzEz)
Agreed. I was thinking about that yesterday. Get them out and then go over and wipe them all out.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2015 05:53 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: fluffy at November 15, 2015 05:53 PM (AfsKp)
Posted by: SJW Jim Malone at November 15, 2015 05:53 PM (ysFo+)
Have the Frenchies finished their measured response?
If so, what was the point?
I'll take internal propaganda for 1000 Euros Alex.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at November 15, 2015 05:53 PM (lsGBr)
Posted by: RobM1981 at November 15, 2015 05:53 PM (zurJC)
undermine us after 9/11 and buy off every third-rate shithole country on
the security council to vote against us in the run-up to Iraq? That
France? The same France that would shield terrorists and murderers from
extradiction to America because the poor, widdle babies might have to
face the death penalty for their heinous crimes? That France?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 15, 2015 05:36 PM (zc3Db)
THIS^^^^^^^France was also the country that hosted the Ayatollah Khomeni while Jimmy Carter was undermining the Shah of Iran. They've been in bed with these bastards for decades.
Posted by: LGoPs at November 15, 2015 05:53 PM (jqzUb)
But did CNN say that, God forbid, he was correct?
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 05:53 PM (1ijHg)
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at November 15, 2015 05:53 PM (b8qru)
We nearly forgot about all of those beautiful and shiny horse statues you sent our way. Consider this a belated thank you.
Sorry it took so long!
Posted by: France at November 15, 2015 05:54 PM (ZedYY)
"Oh, these terrorists of a religion that shall not be named seem to really hate the French. I know, let's settle 10K of them in the American city that is most defined by its French heritage!"
Posted by: Lauren at November 15, 2015 05:54 PM (LzzEz)
But we still remember Lafayette!
Posted by: Iblis at November 15, 2015 05:54 PM (9221z)
>> anything to stop them.)
I don't think Obama's a practicing Mohammedan any more than I think he's a practicing Christian. I do think he's too sympathetic to Islam, and he has advisers who are perhaps even further into it than he is, and I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Valerie Jarrett, for one, were a paid agent of a foreign power.
Posted by: JEM at November 15, 2015 05:55 PM (o+SC1)
Call me when you've dropped several hundred.
Posted by: anti-socialist at November 15, 2015 05:55 PM (o9lmn)
Posted by: speedster1 at November 15, 2015 05:50 PM (1brdf)
You mean the French? Maybe ... but it won't last. And they don't have the power to really do much of anything on any sustained basis.
All the French can really do is, as mentioned above, stop islamic emigration to France and start doing something about the muslims, there. But, they won't.
Anything the French do in the way of military attacks is nothing but window dressing. They don't have the military to do anything real.
We also have the French to thank for Libya, BTW. It was the French who Barky was working for in his illegal disaster there.
One thing I've learned about the French is that they are never real allies and can never be trusted. The French stab all of their allies in the back, eventually, and usually over something insignificant to them and without any payoff. It seems that the French just have a pathology that forces them to back-stab.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 15, 2015 05:55 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: L, Elle at November 15, 2015 05:55 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at November 15, 2015 05:56 PM (zOTsN)
We may be fortunate to see that happen. Not every generation gets to witness such a thing.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 05:56 PM (1ijHg)
Sorry Ace, but this only shows us that France are better pretenders than obama.
It's all bullshit.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at November 15, 2015 05:56 PM (b8qru)
20 doesnt impress me
Posted by: RobM1981
How many bombs do you think we have?
Posted by: The French at November 15, 2015 05:56 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: Y-not at November 15, 2015 05:56 PM (t5zYU)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 05:56 PM (ISjLj)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 15, 2015 05:56 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 15, 2015 05:57 PM (VdICR)
Posted by: JEM at November 15, 2015 05:55 PM (o+SC1)
Obama is a leftist. That's his religion. He aids the Muslims because they're the enemy of his enemy (us). And he believes they are the victims of Western/White colonialism/imperialism and deserve to strike back at us. To Obama, we are the true enemy.
Posted by: Iblis at November 15, 2015 05:57 PM (9221z)
And this fluffy guy can't sock puppet to save his furry backside.
Posted by: Miss South Carolina at November 15, 2015 05:57 PM (AfsKp)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 05:57 PM (ISjLj)
>> it remedy the big problem France has with islamic
>> extremists who are already in France??
If France truly believes this is ISIS, then the people you kill are the ones funding, supplying, cooking for, shilling for them.
The guys in the field matter only to the extent that they believe they're fighting for a cause with a future. If everyone behind them is screaming from the white phosphorus on their beards, then they'll walk away.
And nothing would delight me more than to see a bunch of ISIS supporters with Willy Peter all over their facial hair.
Posted by: JEM at November 15, 2015 05:57 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 15, 2015 05:58 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 15, 2015 05:58 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at November 15, 2015 05:58 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 15, 2015 05:58 PM (YJmuy)
Good for the French... Keep it up!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 15, 2015 05:58 PM (UpGcq)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2015 05:58 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 05:58 PM (ISjLj)
They'll never get it lit.
Posted by: The Fire Insurance on the Washington Monument at November 15, 2015 05:59 PM (DL2i+)
Too bad France doesn't have any long range heavy bombers.
Posted by: Iblis at November 15, 2015 05:59 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 05:59 PM (1ijHg)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2015 05:59 PM (FsuaD)
My theory on why john kerry and other dim bulbs are using Daesh:
Because referring to ISIS as ISIS is an insult to real muslims. You see, the bullshit they want us to believe is that ISIS appropiated Islam; they're not really Islamic in any way whatsoever. So they refer to them as Dash to avoid the word "Islamic" in the ISIS acronym.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at November 15, 2015 05:59 PM (b8qru)
On the plus side they supplied newly formed Israel all of their military equipment.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at November 15, 2015 06:00 PM (Z+ic4)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 15, 2015 06:00 PM (Mqay0)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 06:00 PM (ISjLj)
Posted by: President Code Pink at November 15, 2015 06:00 PM (ZedYY)
When you explain "its also a militaristic and expansionist political ideology" they were confused. Because "that's different from Judaism and Espiscopalianism".
"Exactly. Now you've got it", I said. But they didn't. I must be confused. Closed minds. Stupid people. Democrats.
Posted by: MTF at November 15, 2015 06:01 PM (TxJGV)
Doesn't matter, it'll just get disconnected anyway.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 15, 2015 06:01 PM (YJmuy)
Why do they always yell allah all the time? Christians and Jews dont scream out God all the time? I admit I hate the word Allah. Makes me want to puke. Muslims are such drama queens.
Posted by: Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 15, 2015 05:48 PM (iQIUe)
Every time I see one of those jihadi videos with everyone screaming allahuakbarallahuakbarallahuakbar, I'm reminded of a bunch of agitated fucking screech monkeys at the zoo.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 15, 2015 06:01 PM (o98Jz)
Posted by: PJ at November 15, 2015 06:02 PM (cHuNI)
Too bad no other country with a leader with balls has something like that.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 15, 2015 06:02 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at November 15, 2015 06:02 PM (zOTsN)
Jihadi extremists ARE Mainstream Islam.
It's the moderates that move to the West that are a small faction.
They are barbarians. Don't let them in.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 06:02 PM (1ijHg)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 15, 2015 06:02 PM (Nwg0u)
And I also remember that the frogs didn't let our F-111's cross French airspace when Reagan sent them to Qadaffi's house.
So yeah, I'm of mixed emotions right now.
Posted by: LGoPs at November 15, 2015 06:02 PM (jqzUb)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 06:03 PM (ISjLj)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 15, 2015 06:03 PM (Mqay0)
Posted by: L, Elle at November 15, 2015 05:55 PM (2x3L+)
Here's what the Urban Dictionary says (this is one of those times it's safe to look something up):
"A term used to describe the terrorist organization Islamic State introduced by French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius. The organization went with multiple names in previous occasions like Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) and Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) before the public settled with just Islamic State (IS). Fabius argued that since IS is not Islamic and absolutely not a state, he said "...the Arabs call it Daesh..." (from Arabic "to tread upon", "to trample or crush underfoot")."
He's wrong about one thing, though: It most certainly is Islamic.
Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2015 06:04 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: DaveA at November 15, 2015 06:04 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 05:58 PM (ISjLj)
--------
Ha! When I get asked to specify my race on forms, I always write in "50 yard Dash."
Posted by: L, Elle at November 15, 2015 06:04 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 15, 2015 06:02 PM (Nwg0u)
I think 1000 to 1 is a good proportion to start.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 15, 2015 06:04 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at November 15, 2015 06:04 PM (b8qru)
He may not have the forehead anus that a practicing muz has, but in one of his ghostwritten books before he was installed by the MFM he did say he'd side with the goatfuckers if the political winds turned ugly for them.
He's a muz. Of that there is no doubt.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 15, 2015 06:04 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: mmmmm... Stacey at November 15, 2015 06:04 PM (REdlt)
http://tinyurl.com/oabo6pl
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2015 06:04 PM (D65RZ)
What a sucky weekend. Got nothing done at all.
Posted by: Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 15, 2015 06:04 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: ThunderB, Sharia Compliance Officer at November 15, 2015 06:04 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: willow at November 15, 2015 06:05 PM (Y/jfK)
worth repeating - because it is so perfect in every way
TAG: Why I Love Ace
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 06:06 PM (qCMvj)
He's talking about sealing the Turkish border. Like this administration could seal any border?
Posted by: Diogenes at November 15, 2015 06:06 PM (08Znv)
Posted by: Mike Brady at November 15, 2015 06:06 PM (ZedYY)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 06:06 PM (ISjLj)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 15, 2015 06:06 PM (Mqay0)
C'mon they are the faithful departed. If you cannot trust God to take care of those that love Him,...
I find myself often praying for the unfaithful departed, the atheist Aunt who was the sweetest, most honest and loving person you would ever meet.
Pray for the French, because most of them could have been unfaithful.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 06:07 PM (1ijHg)
Posted by: mmmmm... Stacey at November 15, 2015 06:04 PM (REdlt)
true, cutest little thing
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 06:07 PM (qCMvj)
This deputy national security advisor Rhodes dude is almost breathless trying to hit all the democrat talking points.
He's talking about sealing the Turkish border. Like this administration could seal any border?
Posted by: Diogenes at November 15, 2015 06:06 PM (08Znv)
He looks like he should have a penis growing out of his forehead.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2015 06:07 PM (FsuaD)
Spot on Jane!
Posted by: Diogenes at November 15, 2015 06:09 PM (08Znv)
Too bad I don't have a bottle of French wine open.
But, *cheers!* Vive la France (when they're angry)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 06:09 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 06:06 PM (ISjLj)
Have to start somewhere
Posted by: Doom Rider at November 15, 2015 06:09 PM (ck8TA)
Fletcher Shears*
Really confused to why France would drop bombs on a city in Syria, with innocent civilians present. Hoping this isn't true.
*Hanson 2.0 - http://tinyurl.com/oavpqt8
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 15, 2015 06:09 PM (kdS6q)
Too bad I don't have a bottle of French wine open.
But, *cheers!* Vive la France (when they're angry)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 06:09 PM
I do... A toast to them and may they stay angry...
Posted by: donna at November 15, 2015 06:10 PM (/dSsq)
>> be confused. Closed minds. Stupid people. Democrats.
Explain to them how Episcopalianism came to be - how Catholic France allied with Muslim Ottomans against the Protestants, how Catholics and Protestants used to burn each other alive whenever they had the chance, how C of E was about setting up the Tudor King as the 'English Pope'.
Then tell them that Islam is about where Christianity was in 700AD.
Posted by: JEM at November 15, 2015 06:10 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Colin at November 15, 2015 06:10 PM (8BlfF)
Posted by: HH at November 15, 2015 05:18 PM (DrCtv)
if this is true....
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 06:10 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2015 06:11 PM (45oDG)
I remain doubtful.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at November 15, 2015 06:11 PM (lsGBr)
Posted by: donna at November 15, 2015 06:11 PM (/dSsq)
>>administration could seal any border?
I'd like to seal up Barack Obama's ass with Valerie Jarrett's skull, but I don't think that's what he's got in mind.
Posted by: JEM at November 15, 2015 06:11 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 06:11 PM (ISjLj)
deport supremacists
smash isis
reward leaders who attack isis
the world has had enough of jihad
time to go for their jugular
Posted by: Feh at November 15, 2015 06:12 PM (APsqh)
But, *cheers!* Vive la France (when they're angry)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 06:09 PM
I do... A toast to them and may they stay angry...
Posted by: donna at November 15, 2015 06:10 PM (/dSsq)
Shiraz tonight, but I am sure the Aussie's are celebrating with us all!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 06:12 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2015 06:13 PM (D65RZ)
He is the perfect representative of this regime. He is without a shred of background or experience for his job, he's a damn speechwriter, and yet he never gets called on consistently being spectacularly wrong.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2015 06:13 PM (/tuJf)
Really confused to why France would drop bombs on a city in Syria, with innocent civilians present. Hoping this isn't true.
*Hanson 2.0 - http://tinyurl.com/oavpqt8
Then he'll be downright confounded if he listens to the news and finds out that innocent civilians were massacred in Paris by people yelling Aloha Snackbar on Friday night.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 15, 2015 06:13 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 06:14 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: donna at November 15, 2015 06:14 PM (/dSsq)
that since IS is not Islamic and absolutely not a state, he said "...the
Arabs call it Daesh..." (from Arabic "to tread upon", "to trample or
crush underfoot")."
Of course they're not Islamic. It's quite obvious they're Baptists.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2015 06:14 PM (45oDG)
Posted by: LGoPs at November 15, 2015 05:20 PM (jqzUb)
when pigs fly
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 06:14 PM (qCMvj)
I think it's just north of Umbrage.
Posted by: Barack Obama at November 15, 2015 06:15 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 15, 2015 06:15 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: willow at November 15, 2015 06:16 PM (Y/jfK)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/selection-du-weekend-166-66.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 15, 2015 06:16 PM (Mqay0)
Posted by: HH at November 15, 2015 05:18 PM (DrCtv)
if this is true....
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 06:10 PM (qCMvj)
The SCOAMT walked in DURING the moment of silence.
https://tinyurl.com/o368skw
Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2015 06:16 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: MTF at November 15, 2015 06:01 PM
I can explain it to you, but I cannot understand it for you.
Posted by: It's A Great Big Stupid World at November 15, 2015 06:17 PM (oiBkc)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2015 06:18 PM (D65RZ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 06:19 PM (ISjLj)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2015 06:19 PM (0yhH4)
Posted by: DaveA at November 15, 2015 06:19 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 15, 2015 06:19 PM (FkBIv)
https://tinyurl.com/o368skw
Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2015 06:16 PM (sdi6R)
A self-absorbed jagoff every day of his life. That's why I want the prick utterly humiliated on the world stage
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2015 06:20 PM (45oDG)
And "paradise" is hell and their "virgins" are millions of demons with barbed cocks, for all eternity.
Aloha snackbar, indeed.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2015 06:20 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at November 15, 2015 06:20 PM (RKQ/v)
Okay, it is a very dim bright side.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 15, 2015 06:20 PM (Mqay0)
I'd like it if someone threw a shoe at obama. Or a sandal...
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at November 15, 2015 06:21 PM (b8qru)
command and control
recruitment center
training camp
all bombed
woot!
command and control
recruitment center
training camp!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 06:21 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 15, 2015 06:22 PM (Mqay0)
Battery was dead. Too many selfies earlier.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2015 06:22 PM (D65RZ)
Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps
Wouldn't change the plans of the global jihada single bit.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 15, 2015 06:23 PM (ysFo+)
France, Belgium, England, Sweden...these places, right now, are hotbeds for islamic radicals.
Quick, bomb some shithole village in Syria!
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at November 15, 2015 06:23 PM (b8qru)
The SCOAMT walked in DURING the moment of silence.
President Ryan Mallett
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo
President Louie The "I Wanna Dip My Balls In It!" Guy
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 15, 2015 06:23 PM (kdS6q)
The SCOAMT walked in DURING the moment of silence.
https://tinyurl.com/o368skw
Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2015 06:16 PM (sdi6R)
I am ashamed of my country for having this low-life as our "leader". Did you hear me Michelle?????????
Posted by: LGoPs at November 15, 2015 06:23 PM (jqzUb)
Posted by: PaleRider at November 15, 2015 06:23 PM (iA/+T)
https://tinyurl.com/o368skw
Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2015 06:16 PM (sdi6R)
so embarrassing
so disgraceful
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 06:23 PM (qCMvj)
If you want to pray, pray.
Call in a Priest and offer a prayer.
TFG talks about "universal values". The fucker doesn't understand. They are not universal. They are civilizational. We are fighting barbarians.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 06:23 PM (1ijHg)
I think you mean minced, not walked.
Posted by: Garrett at November 15, 2015 06:24 PM (6piRM)
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle
Or an iron boot. In the mud.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 15, 2015 06:24 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Nom de Blog at November 15, 2015 06:25 PM (HeZ0H)
What a dilemma for the lib-progs.
France is their ideal world of the left.
And now they're bombing.
Talking of tossing out imams and salafists.
Rooting out the evil in the mosques.
What say you leftards?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 06:25 PM (qCMvj)
Quick, bomb some shithole village in Syria!
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at November 15, 2015 06:23 PM (b8qru)
While bombing the shit out of them is nice, why aren't the French rounding up the animals in France?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2015 06:25 PM (45oDG)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 15, 2015 06:25 PM (Mqay0)
recruitment center
training camp
>>all bombed
>>woot!
Yea it's great but if we knew where command and control, recruitment and training camps were, why didn't we bomb them months ago? I'm sick and tired of waiting for westerners having to be slaughtered and the requisite candlelight vigils and hash tag campaigns before we go kill these psychopaths.
They are not going to stop until they are dead. Let's concentrate on them being dead.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2015 06:26 PM (/tuJf)
==============
These people redefine evil but I guess the nazis did this, too.
Posted by: Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 15, 2015 06:26 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Prez'nit O'Dhimmi at November 15, 2015 06:27 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: W at November 15, 2015 06:27 PM (0dcbp)
While bombing the shit out of them is nice, why aren't the French rounding up the animals in France?
Yes, precisely my sarcastic point!
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at November 15, 2015 06:27 PM (b8qru)
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle
>>>>Or an iron boot. In the mud.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 15, 2015 06:24
---------
With a layer of dog crap on top of the mud
Posted by: L, Elle at November 15, 2015 06:27 PM (h6BP/)
Posted by: Prez'nit O'Dhimmi
What's the minimum wage over in those parts?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 15, 2015 06:28 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: LGoPs at November 15, 2015 06:28 PM (jqzUb)
Posted by: TheQuietMan
Because the bulk of France and the other EUnuch nations are fundamentalist believers in the fastest growing religion.
Leftism.
And Leftism's number one sacrament is the Suicide of the West.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 15, 2015 06:28 PM (ysFo+)
big return for the Patriots!
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at November 15, 2015 06:28 PM (b8qru)
Posted by: U of Missou Snowflake at November 15, 2015 06:29 PM (Dwehj)
And pushing them out of the back of a C130 over Raqqa.
Posted by: Willy J. at November 15, 2015 06:29 PM (wHX4r)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 06:29 PM (ISjLj)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 05:42 PM (ISjLj)
Indeed.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2015 06:29 PM (0yhH4)
Posted by: Willy J. at November 15, 2015 06:29 PM (wHX4r)
While wrapped in bacon.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2015 06:30 PM (4ErVI)
The French, Nicolas Sarkozy excepted, fell head over heels in love with Barack Obama at first sight. The same dizzy schoolgirl crush that the Krauts had on Prince Chooming.
So to have Obama now crudely and egocentrically disrespecting their entire country at a moment of French national mourning?
Hey, France, news flash: _he's just not that into you_.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 15, 2015 06:30 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: PETA at November 15, 2015 06:31 PM (REdlt)
Eat the bacon. Drain the grease and pour on the jihadi scum while still hot.
Then kick them out the back of an A.400M without a parachute.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 15, 2015 06:31 PM (Mqay0)
I agree with everything you're saying but such is the fucked-up state of the world in general and the gawt damned Oval Office in particular that I find myself cheering for fucking the Frogs and crushing on Putin.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 06:31 PM (JqEq4)
And for anyone interested, I posted my pumpkin-pecan pie recipe and my southern cornbread dressing recipe.
I need to calm down a bit. *looks at any moron who makes a crack with slitty eyes*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2015 06:31 PM (FsuaD)
But we still remember Lafayette!
Posted by: Iblis at November 15, 2015 05:54 PM (9221z)
TFG wanted "others to lead," and he would support them, he says. Here's his chance.
Meanwhile, Hillary will be saying "I support, errr, don't support, errr, support, err don't support obama..." (Will depend on audience, day and time of day)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 06:31 PM (qCMvj)
And Leftism's number one sacrament is the Suicide of the West.
Elitist technocrat run marxism can't live with successful Western Capitalism ...and can't live without it.
Posted by: W at November 15, 2015 06:32 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: Rob in Katy at November 15, 2015 06:32 PM (eYTQP)
Posted by: Mortimer at November 15, 2015 06:33 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: Garrett at November 15, 2015 06:33 PM (6piRM)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 15, 2015 06:33 PM (ODxAs)
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Belgian Minister Says Government Lacks Control Over Neighborhood Linked to Terror Plots
Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 15, 2015 06:33 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 06:00 PM (ISjLj)
brothels
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 06:34 PM (qCMvj)
No. It lacks the will.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2015 06:34 PM (D65RZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 15, 2015 06:34 PM (Mqay0)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 06:35 PM (ISjLj)
All conventional.
Color me unimpressed.
Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2015 06:35 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 05:52 PM (1ijHg)
Burn them, their imams, and every damned koran you can lay hands on. Symbols count.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2015 06:35 PM (0yhH4)
Can they control the access points? Cut off the water and starve 'em out.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 15, 2015 06:35 PM (YJmuy)
Posted by: The Great White Snark
But there aren't any no go zones!
http://tinyurl.com/k2ghdld
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 15, 2015 06:36 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2015 06:36 PM (D65RZ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 06:00 PM (ISjLj)
brothels
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 06:34 PM (qCMvj)[/]
Dog groomers, pork processing plants, and porn film studios.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 06:36 PM (JqEq4)
Hell yes, invoke the NATO treaty. It's time for it to die.
or live. Your guess is as good as mine.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 06:36 PM (1ijHg)
That would tell me that they are getting serious.
Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2015 06:37 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Sulla at November 15, 2015 06:37 PM (iPw0F)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 06:37 PM (ISjLj)
Posted by: Mortimer at November 15, 2015 06:37 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at November 15, 2015 05:52 PM (b8qru)
It's not a zero-sum game. You can do both. The terrorist gang ISIS, with its HQ in Raqqa, claimed credit for the Paris attacks, so they are a legitimate target.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2015 06:38 PM (0yhH4)
Posted by: Zombie Eli Lilly at November 15, 2015 06:39 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 15, 2015 06:39 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 06:39 PM (ISjLj)
Belgian Minister Says Government Lacks Control Over Neighborhood Linked to Terror Plots
Wonderful. Belgium has their Baltimores, too.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at November 15, 2015 06:39 PM (b8qru)
I'm still of the opinion that much fun could be had with a garden sprayer full of pig blood around a mosque.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 15, 2015 06:39 PM (LUgeY)
And someone filming it. I'd prefer a series of satellite images showing a glowing crater.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2015 06:39 PM (4ErVI)
Not to be the contrarian, but does this accomplish all that much? The
mass migration/invasion has already happened, the barbarians are already
in the gate.
It would seem to me that a halting of the invasion and mass deportation would be the only real effective strategy at this point.
*****
Yes it does. Remember, these dirt bags like to cross borders to fight their jihads wherever they may be. This might motivate thousands of them to head to Syria where they will get their 72 virgins right in the face.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 15, 2015 06:40 PM (z+4T3)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 06:00 PM (ISjLj)
Pig pens.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2015 06:40 PM (45oDG)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 06:40 PM (ISjLj)
Posted by: LGoPs at November 15, 2015 06:41 PM (jqzUb)
No. They use Daesh to avoid giving them the dignity of the world 'state", as if they were a civilized nation/country.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 06:41 PM (JqEq4)
Is their army on vacation?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2015 06:41 PM (45oDG)
Posted by: andycanuck at November 15, 2015 06:41 PM (xodPA)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 06:42 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: L, Elle at November 15, 2015 06:42 PM (h6BP/)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 15, 2015 06:42 PM (Nwg0u)
>>No. It lacks the will.
Exactly.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2015 06:42 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 06:41 PM (JqEq4)
And Islam which is why I think they are really using it. Couldn't say their Islamic. Can't figure out what they are but can't be the religion of peace
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2015 06:42 PM (45oDG)
Posted by: Mortimer at November 15, 2015 06:43 PM (0dcbp)
That would tell me that they are getting serious.
Posted by: rickl
That and radically revised border control would be serious.
However, their centralized bureaucratic state is larger and more immovable than ours. The policies of allowing a festering 3rd world in the midst of their biggest cities will continue because of the entrenched techno-socialists.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 15, 2015 06:43 PM (ysFo+)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 06:43 PM (1ijHg)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2015 06:44 PM (4ErVI)
Isn't your 15 minutes about up, you ugly skank?
Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 15, 2015 06:42 PM (Nwg0u)
Well they like to rape and she likes to whore herself out so problem meet answer. Then we can wipe them out with the sexual diseases she'll unleash on them.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2015 06:44 PM (45oDG)
Trying to think of other times in history where you had a huge group of turd world assholes who werent satisfied with staying in their own shit hole countries.
Posted by: Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 15, 2015 06:44 PM (iQIUe)
What happened to the moronette who just became a citizen? Did Ace ban her?
Posted by: Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 15, 2015 06:45 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Motown Mope- they're suh sorry at November 15, 2015 06:45 PM (24c3y)
Has the foolish pope had anything to say about this or is shutting his big stupid mouth for once?
Posted by: L, Elle at November 15, 2015 06:42 PM (h6BP/)"
What prompted this little bit of anti-catholic bigotry?
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 06:45 PM (1ijHg)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at November 15, 2015 06:45 PM (u5gzz)
Posted by: Lauren at November 15, 2015 06:45 PM (LzzEz)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 06:45 PM (ISjLj)
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If "infrastructure" is code for "heart and lungs", I'm all for it.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 15, 2015 06:45 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 06:43 PM (1ijHg)
Heh.
Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2015 06:45 PM (sdi6R)
France, all hat, no ranch.
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 15, 2015 06:45 PM (jJRIy)
You just know Val Jar is in furious talks with her puppet, Barry, instructing him that in no uncertain terms, is he to praise the French government.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2015 06:46 PM (FsuaD)
I have no real hope that France will keep up the bombing, but it was nice while it lasted.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 06:46 PM (JqEq4)
MADONNA: LOVE ISIS AWAY...
She reminds me of that Italian porn start who wanted to fk Sadam in Gulf War I.
Posted by: Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 15, 2015 06:46 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at November 15, 2015 06:46 PM (b8qru)
Posted by: ThunderB at November 15, 2015 06:46 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 15, 2015 06:46 PM (iQIUe)
forms of warhead delivery available to them, but there just isn't much
if any conventional warfare depth behind the nukes.
All the money got sucked up by the French welfare state. - Posted by: torquewrench at November 15, 2015 05:34 PM (noWW6)<<<
The French welfare state, the German welfare state, the British welfare state, the US welfare state. Fat, dumb, and happy that's what I am Sam. Sam I am.
Posted by: Ralph at November 15, 2015 06:46 PM (kvhal)
Lobbing a few missiles is a nice, safe hands off way to make people feel like you're doing something. It's far short of mentally gearing up a society for a long, protracted war. And admitting your society was wrong about so much....
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 15, 2015 06:47 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at November 15, 2015 06:47 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: L, Elle at November 15, 2015 06:42 PM (h6BP/)
oh, he's had a lot to say in recent day or so
(too much wine to go look)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 06:47 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at November 15, 2015 06:47 PM (u5gzz)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at November 15, 2015 06:45 PM (u5gzz)
The French victims: It's working perfectly
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2015 06:47 PM (45oDG)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2015 06:47 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2015 06:47 PM (D65RZ)
Posted by: Skip at November 15, 2015 06:47 PM (gviQk)
Tomorrow john kerry is going to come out and talk tough again, I believe, bullshitting us about how safe we are and how ISIS is on the run
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at November 15, 2015 06:48 PM (b8qru)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 06:48 PM (1ijHg)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 06:48 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: sr at November 15, 2015 06:48 PM (ThW3U)
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 06:48 PM (+4mdw)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 06:48 PM (ISjLj)
Posted by: PJ at November 15, 2015 06:48 PM (cHuNI)
Belgium is neutral by treaty. The don't need artillary. France and Britian and even Russia have pledged to defend them,
****
Does Belgium have to ask first? or can some country come in and start "defending" them all uninvited and stuff?
Asking for a friend....
Posted by: definitley NOT Vladmir Putin at November 15, 2015 06:48 PM (z+4T3)
Maybe we could get Obozo to package Queen Moochelle in a bomb an drop her on Raqqa. That would show those camel jockeys!
Posted by: Comanche Voter at November 15, 2015 06:49 PM (Sda6L)
Posted by: Skip at November 15, 2015 06:49 PM (gviQk)
"
Has the foolish pope had anything to say about this or is shutting his big stupid mouth for once?
Posted by: L, Elle at November 15, 2015 06:42 PM (h6BP/)"
What prompted this little bit of anti-catholic bigotry?
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 06:45 PM (1ijHg)
I wouldn't call that "anti-catholic bigotry". I would call that an honest question. When the head of a church tells us capitalism and global warming are our problem, he opens himself up to being mocked.
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 15, 2015 06:49 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 06:49 PM (1ijHg)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 15, 2015 06:49 PM (FkBIv)
everyone screaming allahuakbarallahuakbarallahuakbar, I'm reminded of a
bunch of agitated fucking screech monkeys at the zoo
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 15, 2015 06:01 PM
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You sir, have crossed the line.
Even though we are agitated screen monkeys, we are civilized. Not like the ululating islamic animals.
/strolls away in a monkey huff.
Posted by: Agitated Screech Monkeys at November 15, 2015 06:50 PM (9JJgN)
mass migration/invasion has already happened, the barbarians are already
in the gate.
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If nothing else, it will accomplish one thing if it continues. It is shouting from the rooftops that we've had it with their shit. It's the opposite of being afraid to say "Islamic terrorism".
Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 15, 2015 06:51 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 06:45 PM (1ijHg)
The Pope and his big stupid mouth, with which he has said big stupid things. You can be appalled by a socialist Pope without being anti-Catholic, you know.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 06:51 PM (JqEq4)
Let her answer the fucking question.
Yes, Chance the Gardner is a fool. But that doesn't address the issue.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 06:51 PM (1ijHg)
I have Muslim students in my class and they don't seem to be any threat
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 06:51 PM (+4mdw)
Asking for a friend....
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Yes, I am interested in this as well..
Posted by: Definitely NOT the Chicoms at November 15, 2015 06:52 PM (9JJgN)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 06:52 PM (ISjLj)
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Hey, I'm Catholic so I'm allowed to be anti-Catholic. Not a fan of this guy. He called on every Catholic Church to adopt a Syrian family and thinks the U.S. Is not allowed to have a border. He spews the same lefty BS as Obama about having a moral obligation to let in terrorists to this country
Posted by: L, Elle at November 15, 2015 06:52 PM (h6BP/)
Posted by: Lauren at November 15, 2015 06:52 PM (LzzEz)
Posted by: L, Elle at November 15, 2015 06:42 PM (h6BP/)"
What prompted this little bit of anti-catholic bigotry?
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 06:45 PM (1ijHg)
Not anti-Catholic.....Pope Frankie opens his pie hole about global warming and let's all be socialists any chance he gets but when it comes to defending the Faith he is mum and/or wrong.
When I go to Mass I ask God to deliver us from Satan, the musloids and my current Pope.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 15, 2015 06:52 PM (ej1L0)
That's pathetic. I bet Barack's lasted longer than that over Michelle
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2015 06:52 PM (D65RZ)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 06:53 PM (qCMvj)
Genius, shear Genius, pick a mosque and run a herd of hogs through it. Presto!!!
Posted by: Ralph at November 15, 2015 06:54 PM (kvhal)
this particular pope can eat shit
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at November 15, 2015 06:54 PM (b8qru)
There's a LOT of anti-muslim, anti-Obama sentiments out there. It was like reading the Horde at times.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 15, 2015 06:54 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 06:54 PM (JqEq4)
Posted by: Marie Hork and Jen Psocki at November 15, 2015 06:54 PM (Dwehj)
It was not until the 1950's when the west started importing this fucked up religion/culture.
notice there are not any Hindu rape gangs in England....
Posted by: Jake at November 15, 2015 06:55 PM (QelBn)
Belgium is neutral by treaty. The don't need artillary.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo
Neutral?
Belgium is one of the founding members of NATO and the European Union and is hosting the headquarters of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) in its capital, Brussels, and NATO's operational headquarters, Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe (SHAPE) in Mons. Belgium is also host nation for several other NATO-related facilities.
www.aco.nato.int/page12732254
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 15, 2015 06:55 PM (kdS6q)
Thirty seconds over Raqqa. Morale booster only.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 15, 2015 06:49 PM (FkBIv)
There! We showed them!
Posted by: Peirre, behind the Maginot line at November 15, 2015 06:55 PM (jJRIy)
undermine us after 9/11 and buy off every third-rate shithole country on
the security council to vote against us in the run-up to Iraq? That
France? The same France that would shield terrorists and murderers from
extradiction to America because the poor, widdle babies might have to
face the death penalty for their heinous crimes? That France?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 15, 2015 05:36 PM (zc3Db)
THIS^^^^^^^France was also the country that hosted the Ayatollah Khomeni while Jimmy Carter was undermining the Shah of Iran. They've been in bed with these bastards for decades.
Posted by: LGoPs at November 15, 2015 05:53 PM (jqzUb)
Where do you think the Great Cambodian Humanitarian Pol Pot was educated?
And Ho Chi Minh?
And Karl Marx?
Lenin?
A whole lot of very bad people made Paris their philosophical salon where they perfected their progressive ideas before they went home and started their mass murdering.
Posted by: rd at November 15, 2015 06:56 PM (vYuKc)
That's why all the comment sections should be shuttered.
Posted by: Internet Kopp at November 15, 2015 06:56 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 06:51 PM (+4mdw)
Key word here "seem".
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 15, 2015 06:57 PM (jJRIy)
I have Muslim students in my class and they don't seem to be any threat
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 06:51 PM (+4mdw)
I've had Muslim students too, but the problem is that there's no way to tell which are problematic, short of reading the news each morning.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 06:57 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 06:45 PM (1ijHg)
What anti-Catholic bigotry? All I see is acknowledgement of the fact that Catholics are currently cursed with a piss-poor Communist Pope. They deserve better.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2015 06:58 PM (0yhH4)
Belgium is neutral by treaty. The don't need artillary.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo
Neutral?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 15, 2015 06:55 PM (kdS6q)
Psst: Dial the Wayback Machine 101 years ago.
Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2015 06:58 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 15, 2015 06:58 PM (z+4T3)
There's a LOT of anti-muslim, anti-Obama sentiments out there. It was like reading the Horde at times.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 15, 2015 06:54 PM (AC0lD)
Really? Wow. Maybe there's hope after all.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 06:59 PM (oKE6c)
>>I have Muslim students in my class and they don't seem to be any threat
I understand the sentiment but I no longer agree. I'm sick and tired of bending over so as not to offend Muslims. It's their religion and it's way past time they started bending over instead of us.
I'm not saying its fair. But it sure as hell isn't fair for the rest of us to keep sacrificing our rights and safety to appease their feelings.
Why Muslims start taking the lead in fighting these psychopaths who are part of their religion then maybe I will care about their feelings and rights again. Until then, nope.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 15, 2015 06:59 PM (/tuJf)
Thank you, sir. Und now for mine greatest experiment...
Posted by: Clock Boy at November 15, 2015 06:59 PM (Dwehj)
I have Muslim students in my class and they don't seem to be any threat
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 06:51 PM (+4mdw)
I've had Muslim students too, but the problem is that there's no way to tell which are problematic, short of reading the news each morning.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 06:57 PM (oKE6c)
"Sudden Jihadi Syndrome" is a real thing.
Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2015 06:59 PM (sdi6R)
Cry, "baguette!"
And let slip the Frogs of war.
Posted by: Marc Antoine at November 15, 2015 07:00 PM (REdlt)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 07:00 PM (ISjLj)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2015 07:00 PM (D65RZ)
She wears a hijab, but her mannerisms and her attitude are almost indistinguishable from the other women in my class
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:00 PM (+4mdw)
Very Neville Chamberlain esque.
Posted by: Willy J. at November 15, 2015 07:00 PM (wHX4r)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks
The Mexican plane has one in the rear.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 15, 2015 07:01 PM (FkBIv)
That was a nice piece of civil discourse. I agree with you.
Tammy, please understand, Pope Francis is NOT an economist. He wants the rich to share with the poor so that no one goes hungry. His is deluded about the motivations of the poor, but please forgive him.
Nip Sip, yes.
He is an Argentinian Socialist.
In matters of faith and morals, he is my Pontiff. I do question about his recent teachings about morals. While I disagree with him, I will not quit the Church. This too shall pass.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 07:01 PM (1ijHg)
so many people are saying this is nothing..
yet, so many people were saying France would do nothing... but, pray and weep, and put flowers down
and now they have, they are bombing a high level target(s)
From what I gather from the interview with the French Senator (see above somewhere, I commented) they are ashamed that they haven't taken this as seriously as they seem to be now. Admitting the root of the evil is in the mosques, etc. Pretty brazen wording.
We shall see. Maybe this is them leading the way, and trying to get others to follow. Who knows. Maybe now, but I support them right now, tonight.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 07:01 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: L, Elle at November 15, 2015 07:02 PM (h6BP/)
While I can't discount the humorous aspects of wrangling a herd of pigs through a mosque, it still sounds a lot like work.
Just fill up a garden sprayer with pig blood and start painting the outside of it. Quick and easy. IIANM, that building cannot be used again by them.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 15, 2015 07:02 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 07:02 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Weasel at November 15, 2015 07:02 PM (e3bId)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 07:03 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 15, 2015 07:03 PM (FkBIv)
In fact the one Muslim student in my class right now seems rather Westernized
She wears a hijab, but her mannerisms and her attitude are almost indistinguishable from the other women in my class
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:00 PM (+4md
Let's not forget, lying to an infidel is OK and Huma, Hillary's closest aid is a Mohammedan.
What could go wrong?
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 15, 2015 07:03 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Asswipe who types first in a comment at November 15, 2015 07:03 PM (2X7pN)
Wait till there are more of them.
For decades, Europe was internally very quiet with regard to Muslim activity, until the percentage of the population which is Islamic reached an inflection point. Then things got ugly fast.
Exactly how it has worked everywhere else on the planet where Islam started small and then got big.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 15, 2015 07:03 PM (noWW6)
The only way I knew that they were Muslim was from the hijabs, the Muslims who weren't wearing hijabs, I would not have known they were Muslims
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:03 PM (+4mdw)
Little bit disappointed at people who want to throw all the Muslims out
Posted by: chemjeff
Oh, no! Bad ... bad Zoot.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 15, 2015 07:04 PM (kdS6q)
She wears a hijab, but her mannerisms and her attitude are almost indistinguishable from the other women in my class
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:00 PM (+4md
that is what everyone said of the Boston bombers.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 07:04 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Clock Boy at November 15, 2015 07:04 PM (Dwehj)
Fast forward to today and I view the recent events in Paris more cynically - as workplace violence. Disgruntled employees lashing out at their employer.
Posted by: bahabuddha at November 15, 2015 07:04 PM (eZuvD)
I have Muslim students in my class and they don't seem to be any threat
It doesn't matter if some muslim has fooled you into thinking he's a 'good' one.
They do not in total justify the risk of allowing their faithful brethren in our country.
It's like saying you know a 'good' democrat.
Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2015 07:05 PM (ZbV+0)
President Crap Weasal was late for a moment of silence for Paris at the G20. Of course he was, whats a brutal attack in Paris by Islamists got to do with him and its ALL about Preezy, Yo!
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at November 15, 2015 07:05 PM (syGA0)
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 15, 2015 07:05 PM (ISjLj)
Posted by: L, Elle at November 15, 2015 07:05 PM (h6BP/)
the hijabs, the Muslims who weren't wearing hijabs, I would not have
known they were Muslims
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:03 PM (+4mdw)
So who drove them to the store and were they with a male family member?
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 15, 2015 07:05 PM (jJRIy)
>>I have Muslim students in my class and they don't seem to be any threat
No one poses a threat until they do.
Turn it around: how would you know whether they were or not? It's not as if a terrorist will walk around wearing a suicide vest day in and day out until he one day detonates it.
And further, consider the risk/benefit calculation: Muslims generally pose a greater threat of terrorist crap than any other group - correct? And what do we get from having Muslim students and educating them? Basically, nothing. What do we risk?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 07:05 PM (oKE6c)
Yeah, we want better.
You know, we American Catholics are hated by Catholics around the world.
We donate metric shit-tons of money. Yet we have this independent attitude.
Peter the Roman will not last forever.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 07:05 PM (1ijHg)
Posted by: chemjeff
What bothers me is they won't speak up and fight against their own.
They won't rat on their own.
And, if you watch Ben Shapiro's video a ways back, most, the majority will stay silent and agree with killing us.
I have no room in my heart for enablers.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 07:06 PM (qCMvj)
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but effective. remember Kerry talking about pinprick minimal actions? didn't do shit
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at November 15, 2015 07:07 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 15, 2015 07:07 PM (FkBIv)
So who drove them to the store and were they with a male family member?
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 15, 2015 07:05 PM (jJRIy)
the ones that follow Sharia, I would kick out right now, no questions asked
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 07:07 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2015 07:07 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Motown Mope- they're suh sorry at November 15, 2015 07:07 PM (24c3y)
WTAF?
Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at November 15, 2015 07:07 PM (bA+CL)
Then she pulled a knife and tried to stab an Israeli border guard.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2015 07:08 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 07:08 PM (1ijHg)
his recent teachings about morals. While I disagree with him, I will not
quit the Church. This too shall pass."
What will pass, from the Earth, will be Catholicism as we know it.
When a faith becomes so suicidal as to invite into its own cathedrals representatives of an alien faith pledged to its destruction, there to openly preach their hostile and incompatible doctrines, while no reciprocal courtesy is extended, it's a sign that ecumenicism has been administered in a dose about one million times the LD50 level.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 15, 2015 07:08 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 15, 2015 07:08 PM (FkBIv)
She wears a hijab, but her mannerisms and her attitude are almost indistinguishable from the other women in my class
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:00 PM (+4mdw)
If the majority of muslims in the West were really peaceable, and really opposed to ISIS, and all the other islamic supremacists, you'd see:
Lines of young muslim males a block long at recruiting centers begging to be signed up so they could go kick jihadi ass.
Imams on TV urging their young people to dress Western and shit-can the hefty bag.
Maggot-ridden corpses of jihadi wanna-be's turning up in ditches where they were thrown by moderate muslim vigilantes.
muslims constantly tipping off the cops and the security agencies about jihadis in their midst.
Funny, I don't see any of that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2015 07:08 PM (0yhH4)
Taquiyya, AKA "lying to infidels" in order to fool them.
I worked with a gaggle of muz students back in the '70's. I learned a lot from them, such as how much they hated our society, yet still valued their education here.
I wouldn't piss on one of them if they were on fire. They're animals in human form and richly deserve to be treated as such.
They are beneath contempt.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 15, 2015 07:09 PM (LUgeY)
She wears a hijab, but her mannerisms and her attitude are almost indistinguishable from the other women in my class
And her father? And her uncle(s)? And her brothers? Are you willing to vouch for all of them?
C'mon, Jeff, think. Women aren't the problem anyway, and I doubt very much that you have any information whatsoever on the rest of her family.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 07:09 PM (oKE6c)
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THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO THINK
*shifty eyes*
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at November 15, 2015 07:09 PM (Cq0oW)
She was a good girl. Turnin' her life around.
Posted by: Traytable's Mama at November 15, 2015 07:09 PM (Dwehj)
And I have Muslim friends who I know are no threat, who have been vocal in their communities calling for this shit to stop.
But I do think the mosques need to be monitored, and I am extremely suspicious of Muslim families where the young women wear more than just a hijab.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 07:09 PM (JqEq4)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 15, 2015 07:09 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2015 07:08 PM (4ErVI)
the one Paris is looking for is a woman too
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 07:09 PM (qCMvj)
Q: If there was a bowl of Smarties* on the table & you know 5 are poison, would you grab a handful?
[U.S. translation: Chocolate M&Ms]
And not mine; I'm not smart enough to come up with it.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 15, 2015 07:09 PM (xodPA)
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:00 PM (+4mdw)
CJ, just by reading your comments here for the last few years, it's clear to me you are literally a "gentleman and a scholar".
I have no doubt that you are smarter than me when passed out drunk and I'm stone cold sober.
However, the level of of naïveté you are displaying here is disheartening. I mean no offense at all but CJ, what are you talking about? They may be truly great people but you don't expect them to come to class wearing a suicide vest do you?
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at November 15, 2015 07:10 PM (lsGBr)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2015 07:00 PM (D65RZ)
I'm trying not to snort.
chemjeff, I'm not trying to pile on you, but, after living in the middle east for over 10 years, I have learned that theory of concentric groups is the norm amongst the Arab/Muslim groups-me, me and my brother, me my brother and my cousin, me my brother my cousin and my tribe,etc. They will be nice to you, they may even be friends with you, but when shit gets real, they will link arms with their brothers every time and kill you.
The Arab Christians, surprisingly, are not like this. Nor the Ba'hai, or the two Zoroastrians I know.
I do not doubt that your students are sweet kids. I had a number of dear Muslim/Arab friends while I was over in the region. But I keep situational awareness at the front of my brain around them-especially in large public places, and where there are large groups meeting. It's just the way of the world now. 9/11 started that here in the US and it hasn't stopped.
Posted by: Moki at November 15, 2015 07:10 PM (7q2ch)
For decades, Europe was internally very quiet with regard to Muslim activity, until the percentage of the population which is Islamic reached an inflection point. Then things got ugly fast.
Exactly how it has worked everywhere else on the planet where Islam started small and then got big.
Posted by: torquewrench at November 15, 2015 07:03 PM (noWW6)
This cannot be repeated enough.
When Muslims are a tiny minority, they're all "Just let us practice our religion in peace."
As their numbers grow, they begin making demands on the larger society, like grocery clerks shouldn't have to handle pork, or cabdrivers shouldn't have to pick up fares carrying alcohol.
By the time they reach 5-10% of the population, they start turning violent.
As the violence ratchets up, non-Muslims begin to flee, making their numbers grow even faster.
When they reach 50%, or perhaps even before then, then it's "Convert, pay the jizya, or die."
This is as predictable as the sunrise.
Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2015 07:10 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 07:10 PM (JqEq4)
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at November 15, 2015 07:11 PM (syGA0)
every muslim on the planet had I the means. And I would have been a
monster for doing so.
Are you seriously bragging that you changed your position from 'steely resolve' to 'cowardly resignation'?
Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2015 07:11 PM (ZbV+0)
The hijab or the visa. Pick one.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 15, 2015 07:11 PM (D65RZ)
She wears a hijab, but her mannerisms and her attitude are almost indistinguishable from the other women in my class
Also bear in mind that the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood lived in Colorado in the 1950s, where he became radicalized by the scandalously loose morals here. Men and women attending church at the same time. At the same time, I say. Have you no decency?
Yet the Ozzie and Harriets in Colorado didn't realize the volcano that was seething inside that guy.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 07:11 PM (oKE6c)
I've seen Muslim women at the grocery store with their kids, and they haven't yet blown me up with a suicide vest
The
only way I knew that they were Muslim was from the hijabs, the Muslims
who weren't wearing hijabs, I would not have known they were Muslims
xxx
And they probably won't.
Brigette Gabriel had a response to this the other day on a panel: tyhere are X BILLION Muslims in the world. It is suspected that 25% of them are "radicallizated." That like 200 MILLION radicals.
She then explained that the majority of Germans and Japanese were peace loving as well. Yet look what happened during WWII.
In other words... what seems real and what is real can, at times, be two different things.
Posted by: shibumi, RIP USA at November 15, 2015 07:12 PM (9JJgN)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 07:10 PM (JqEq4)
and the ones that aren't need to help rid us of the rabid ones
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 07:12 PM (qCMvj)
or not? It's not as if a terrorist will walk around wearing a suicide
vest day in and day out until he one day detonates it.
And
further, consider the risk/benefit calculation: Muslims generally pose a
greater threat of terrorist crap than any other group - correct? And
what do we get from having Muslim students and educating them?
Basically, nothing. What do we risk?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 07:05 PM (oKE6c)
Well, we basically get the same out of educating Muslims as we get out of educating anyone. Some good things, but a lot of meh, that is for sure. So if this is an argument in favor of privatizing all college, that is fine. But that would be the case for all students, both Muslims and non-Muslims.
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:13 PM (+4mdw)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 07:14 PM (qCMvj)
It's been going on for over 2000 years. If God is not behind it, you are right. Ever read Science Fiction (perhaps you have been reading too much of it)? In Star Trek, did you hear about the Church?
If the Universal Church is the Body of Christ, it will never be extinguished.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at November 15, 2015 07:14 PM (1ijHg)
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I think ISIS has expressed great interest in immigrating en masse to the Vatican
Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2015 07:14 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: andycanuck at November 15, 2015 07:15 PM (xodPA)
I agree with chemjeff that not every Muslim is a rabid asshole. But we have to be able to get rid of the rabid assholes.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 07:10 PM (JqEq4)
Let's make it easy. They all want to go to Mecca. Send them.
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 15, 2015 07:15 PM (jJRIy)
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I hear they are interested in "demolition" projects there that might be unauthorized.
Posted by: shibumi, RIP USA at November 15, 2015 07:16 PM (9JJgN)
The Center for Security Policy polled American Muslims.
51% agreed that Muslims should have the choice of being governed by shariah.
25% agreed its legitimate to use violence against those who give offense to Islam.
25% said violence against Americans here in the United States can be justified as part of the global jihad.
Posted by: Doctor Fish at November 15, 2015 07:16 PM (OiFtZ)
Posted by: andycanuck at November 15, 2015 07:16 PM (xodPA)
How many times do you think people get blown up? The first time is the last time.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 07:17 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at November 15, 2015 07:17 PM (XvWx1)
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at November 15, 2015 07:17 PM (syGA0)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 07:12 PM (qCMvj)
This cannot be stated often enough.
Like most problems, it can only be fixed from within.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 07:18 PM (JqEq4)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 15, 2015 07:18 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at November 15, 2015 07:18 PM (syGA0)
well I don't know about that, I'm pretty stupid after 3 beers
but I just can't indulge in the group judgment, I desire to judge people individually on their own merits or demerits.
if someone is a good person (and they are otherwise here legally) then I don't see any reason why they should be asked to leave, Muslim or no
and if someone is a bad person, we would know that only by the actions that they would commit, not by the company they keep or the religion they hold
what if the shoe was on the other foot, and we had a government that wanted to kick out all of the gun owners because they *collectively* posed a threat?
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:19 PM (+4mdw)
Muslims as we get out of educating anyone. Some good things, but a lot
of meh, that is for sure. So if this is an argument in favor of
privatizing all college, that is fine. But that would be the case for
all students, both Muslims and non-Muslims.
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:13 PM (+4mdw)
Nothing to do with privatization.
I assumed you were speaking of Muslims who were foreign nationals. There's a point to educating our own people; to educating foreigners, especially nationals of countries that are philosophically hostile to us, there's none.
Recall that the gal who ran Saddam's biowarfare program was an American-educated Ph.D. (IIRC).
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 07:19 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 07:17 PM (oKE6c)
Well, one poor bastard did get nuked twice, in both Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Survived both, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2015 07:19 PM (0yhH4)
Posted by: Nip Sip at November 15, 2015 07:15 PM (jJRIy)
Strapped om ICBMs, yes?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 07:19 PM (JqEq4)
Posted by: Marie Harf at November 15, 2015 07:20 PM (z+4T3)
I understand the sentiment but I no longer agree. I'm sick and tired
of bending over so as not to offend Muslims. It's their religion and
it's way past time they started bending over instead of us.
====================
I have worked with a few.
One of interest was raised in the ME and at worst a 'lapsed muslim' that had almost no interest in islam and could give some good unemotional insight into various ME religious/political issues. Odd thing is, this person was absolutely culturally a ME muslim - no matter how detached a viewpoint was always sympathetic to ME issues vs 'the west' (or the rest) and, oddly, had no sense of patriotism/nationalism at all and no comprehension of why anybody else would.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 15, 2015 07:20 PM (T78UI)
I'd bet that if you polled liberals, that you could find 25% agreeing that it's legitimate to use violence against people who refuse to bake gay wedding cakes
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:20 PM (+4mdw)
God bless you for standing up for the moral choice, sweetheart.
I wish I could whole-heartedly agree with you, but I am on the fence, leaning towards the other side.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 07:21 PM (JqEq4)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Wyree Kyrotee
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 15, 2015 07:21 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 07:17 PM (oKE6c)
Well, one poor bastard did get nuked twice, in both Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Survived both, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2015 07:19 PM (0yhH4)
Good guy to stay away from, with that kind of luck.
But you get my point. It's fallacious to conclude that something doesn't pose a threat because it hasn't done so yet.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 07:22 PM (oKE6c)
I assumed you
were speaking of Muslims who were foreign nationals. There's a point to
educating our own people; to educating foreigners, especially nationals
of countries that are philosophically hostile to us, there's none.
Recall that the gal who ran Saddam's biowarfare program was an American-educated Ph.D. (IIRC).
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 07:19 PM (oKE6c)
I don't know if this individual is an American citizen or not. But I don't think the answer should change in either case. If this person is here legally, and is legally allowed to attend college, and doesn't have a criminal record, and doesn't display any sort of aptitude to jihadism, then I don't see why this person should be told that she can't go to college
I would think we would want more educated Muslim women, not fewer
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:23 PM (+4mdw)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 07:18 PM (JqEq4)
And I see precious little evidence of any will on the part of "moderate" muslims to do anything proactive to stop the spiralling radicalism.
Why aren't "moderate" muslims shaming or even spitting on "hijab honeys and burqua babes" in the streets?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2015 07:23 PM (0yhH4)
What would have happened if we only declared war against "the radical Nazi Germans...?" What if we only fought "the Japanese who wish us harm?"
Does anyone know what war is?
Anyone care to guess how ISIS views this?
Posted by: RobM1981 at November 15, 2015 07:23 PM (zurJC)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 07:22 PM (oKE6c)
Well I have no evidence that this individual poses any sort of direct physical threat. I don't regard a hijab as a threatening instrument.
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:23 PM (+4mdw)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 15, 2015 07:23 PM (FkBIv)
Kinda proves the point. How many of your Muslim students would equal 25% in a given year?
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at November 15, 2015 07:23 PM (lsGBr)
Posted by: Ted Bundy at November 15, 2015 07:24 PM (OiFtZ)
wanted to kick out all of the gun owners because they *collectively*
posed a threat?
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"if?"
Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2015 07:25 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: t-bird at November 15, 2015 07:26 PM (oFSUK)
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:20 PM (+4mdw)
Kinda proves the point. How many of your Muslim students would equal 25% in a given year?
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at November 15, 2015 07:23 PM (lsGBr)
Of course a violent person should be dealt with harshly, regardless of religion
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:27 PM (+4mdw)
Posted by: Lizzy at November 15, 2015 07:27 PM (NOIQH)
that it's legitimate to use violence against people who refuse to bake
gay wedding cakes
Is anyone particularly opposed to deporting the progs with their muslim allies?
Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2015 07:28 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: bahabuddha at November 15, 2015 07:28 PM (eZuvD)
all islam is caustic, all of it.
CJ is a good dude, but he is using a sample of moslems at a university in the USA, not the illiterate ones populating the ME braying for violence over a flushed koran, etc.
Posted by: Jake at November 15, 2015 07:28 PM (QelBn)
Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2015 07:25 PM (ZbV+0)
exactly.
we have large portions of our government which views all gun owners as a collective threat due only to the threatening behavior of a few who misuse their guns.
I don't want to be treated that way, and I don't want others treated that way either
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:28 PM (+4mdw)
I have Muslim students in my class and they don't seem to be any threat
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 06:51 PM (+4mdw)
As I wrote back in 1899 in my book, The River War:
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science (the science against which it had vainly struggled) the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.
Posted by: Winston Churchill at November 15, 2015 07:29 PM (zc3Db)
citizen or not. But I don't think the answer should change in either
case. If this person is here legally, and is legally allowed to attend
college, and doesn't have a criminal record, and doesn't display any
sort of aptitude to jihadism, then I don't see why this person should be
told that she can't go to college I would think we would want more educated Muslim women, not fewer
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:23 PM (+4mdw)
If she's a foreign national, you're begging the question when you say if she's here legally she should be allowed to attend college. If that should be the case, we're debating WHETHER she should be here legally.
How does one show aptitude for jihadism? What score on the JAT did she get? Look at the Tsarnaevs. They were up to their eyeballs in jihadi shit, and only their fellow jihadis (and the Russians) knew about it. You don't think jihadis are necessarily going to walk around wearing sandwich board signs, do you?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 07:29 PM (oKE6c)
But I believe that Sharia law has absolutely no place in the United States, even if the majority of the people in a municipality can vote it in (Dearborn? Minneapolis-St. Paul?) I believe that Muslim rights to avoid that which is haram stops when they confront my rights to eat pork, have my dog in the car, and NOT cover my hair. I've been beaten for that already. I will not permit it to happen ever again.
Posted by: Moki at November 15, 2015 07:29 PM (7q2ch)
Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2015 07:28 PM (ZbV+0)
if I was supreme emperor and I had the choice of deporting 25% of progs or 25% of muslims, I'd deport 25% of progs
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:29 PM (+4mdw)
I see these American men who convert to marry a muslim woman who is ugly and appears to be bossy and call the shots in the marriage. So, muslim women may have magic putheys.
Posted by: Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 15, 2015 07:30 PM (iQIUe)
physical threat. I don't regard a hijab as a threatening instrument.
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Wearing a hijab is a deliberate political statement of opposition to Western Civilization.
It's like when we put the words "under God" in the pledge to differentiate ourselves from Godless commie scum.
Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2015 07:31 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 15, 2015 07:23 PM (0yhH4)
Well, it's a modesty issue, first and foremost. I would never spit on a Fundamentalist Christian woman in a long skirt, long sleeves and a covered head or an Amish woman modestly dressed.
As I said, hijabs don't bother me, especially if they are otherwise Western looking (make up, western clothes, etc)
But the full on abayyas and/or a burka would make me immediately suspicious of her male relatives.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 07:31 PM (JqEq4)
He won't know about it until he gets the morning paper.
Posted by: t-bird at November 15, 2015 07:32 PM (Z58Xa)
oh I agree that Sharia law should not become civil law in any sense of the word
if individuals want to follow the behavioral restrictions of Islam or Judaism or Christianity or whatever, that is fine, but that is their choice alone
but you'll pry that bacon and beer out of my cold dead hands
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:32 PM (+4mdw)
Posted by: skzion at November 15, 2015 07:32 PM (9C0d4)
There's also the clips I've seen of the times they will pray in the street, en mass, so that no one can pass, by car or on foot - just a block full of men on their knees.
Both are power plays and forms of aggression, just in different ways.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 15, 2015 07:32 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Tuna at November 15, 2015 07:33 PM (JSovD)
but you'll pry that bacon and beer out of my cold dead hands
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:32 PM (+4mdw)
darlin, I will cook the bacon and make a sammich for you and bring you the cold beer!!!!
Posted by: Moki at November 15, 2015 07:33 PM (7q2ch)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2015 07:33 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2015 07:33 PM (4ErVI)
That's going to take a lot of acid.
Posted by: Moki at November 15, 2015 07:34 PM (7q2ch)
collective threat due only to the threatening behavior of a few who
misuse their guns.
I don't want to be treated that way, and I don't want others treated that way either
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The only reason they don't act is the sheer numbers of gun owners makes it potentially *costly* for them to act.
See previous points about concentration of mohammadans in a society.
As for your concern over how people are treated,
See again previous points about concentrations of mohammadans in a society
Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2015 07:35 PM (ZbV+0)
Some French minister is saying they're going to dissolve mosques that are preaching hatred.
*****
With acid?!?!?!?....Awesome
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 15, 2015 07:35 PM (z+4T3)
question when you say if she's here legally she should be allowed to
attend college. If that should be the case, we're debating WHETHER she
should be here legally.
How does one show aptitude for jihadism? What
score on the JAT did she get? Look at the Tsarnaevs. They were up to
their eyeballs in jihadi shit, and only their fellow jihadis (and the
Russians) knew about it. You don't think jihadis are necessarily going
to walk around wearing sandwich board signs, do you?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 07:29 PM (oKE6c)
What I meant by "aptitude for jihadism" are things like association with known jihadist groups, etc. Our own government really dropped the ball on the Tsarnaevs of course. They should have been "asked" to leave long before they had had any sort of opportunity to commit jihad because they were known associates of jihadis.
I agree that we need much better screening of those who enter the country, I'd even be willing to say that Muslims from certain countries ought to get perhaps a little extra scrutiny, but to say that all Muslims should be asked to go because Muslim = terrorist is just too far for me
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:36 PM (+4mdw)
Uh, not necessarily. I suppose it is for some, but it's mainly a modesty thing.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 07:37 PM (JqEq4)
Posted by: Tuna at November 15, 2015 07:38 PM (JSovD)
oh c'mon, really?
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:39 PM (+4mdw)
Fucking awesome.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2015 07:07 PM (FsuaD)
------------------------------------
"We have ISIL contained" was the GO code.Five from GITMO released is the payoff.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 15, 2015 07:39 PM (T78UI)
But the full on abayyas and/or a burka would make me immediately suspicious of her male relatives.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 07:31 PM (JqEq4)
And wonder whether she would tell authorities if her male relatives were planning a terrorist attack or even whether she would actively assist in it if pressed.
Since hijabs are as much a cultural signifier as a religious one, I would bet that the answers would unfortunately be no and yes.
Posted by: Maetenloch at November 15, 2015 07:39 PM (wqVD1)
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at November 15, 2015 07:40 PM (lsGBr)
Posted by: Moki at November 15, 2015 07:29 PM (7q2ch)
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Good Lord, Moki. I hope you mean "beaten" figuratively and not literally.
Btw, I wanted to mention that my event was a huge success. I got so many compliments for the menu and food choices. Thank you so much for helping me with that.
Posted by: L, Elle at November 15, 2015 07:41 PM (h6BP/)
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Greeley, CO, one of the most white bread towns in the country.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 15, 2015 07:41 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: t-bird at November 15, 2015 07:42 PM (oFSUK)
CJ has become the voice of reason and restraint.
Strange days indeed.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at November 15, 2015 07:40 PM (lsGBr)
Quick someone ply him with alcohol!
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2015 07:42 PM (4ErVI)
CJ has become the voice of reason and restraint.
Strange days indeed.
Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at November 15, 2015 07:40 PM (lsGBr)
oh fuck you
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:42 PM (+4mdw)
oh c'mon, really?
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:39 PM (+4mdw)
Everything about islam is a political statement since islam is nothing but an aggressive, vicious, savage political ideology bent on taking over the world. That is all islam is about - getting the power of state EVERYWHERE.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 15, 2015 07:42 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: t-bird at November 15, 2015 07:44 PM (oFSUK)
Posted by: Garrett at November 15, 2015 07:44 PM (6piRM)
Yes, really. How many of those satan suits did you see before 9-11? How many stories did you hear of mohammadan women giving DMV employees shit over being photographed?
This preening over modesty is all at best contrarian bullshit.
Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2015 07:44 PM (ZbV+0)
I would like to tell you to take off your tinfoil hat, but the timing is really, really suspicious.
I think it's more a matter of extreme stubbornness on the part of President Opussy, but it sure is creepy.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 07:45 PM (JqEq4)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 07:31 PM (JqEq4)
Full on Abayyas would have ME immediately suspicious that it could BE a male relative with a suicide vest. Its not like you can so much as see an adams apple or the shape of the hips.
Posted by: PaleRider at November 15, 2015 07:45 PM (iA/+T)
Oh PLEASE! Muslim status is a HUGE RISK FACTOR for terrorist activity, and an even bigger one for facilitating.
Enough. No Muslim visas. Let's at least start there.
Posted by: skzion at November 15, 2015 07:45 PM (9C0d4)
Posted by: Darth Hoodie at November 15, 2015 07:45 PM (REdlt)
Posted by: Barky O'Douche at November 15, 2015 07:46 PM (oFSUK)
Enough. No Muslim visas. Let's at least start there.
Posted by: skzion at November 15, 2015 07:45 PM (9C0d4)
So what you are basically saying, is that individuals should be judged based on the company they keep, rather than based on their individual merits or demerits.
Is this really the argument you want to make?
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:46 PM (+4mdw)
I lived in Los Angeles for almost 30 years and saw plenty from the time I moved there in the 80s.
Most of the pushing the ID issue are American converts, by the way. A native born Muslim woman who had to cover up that much would most likely not be allowed to drive by her husband/father/brothers.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 07:47 PM (JqEq4)
I think it's more a matter of extreme stubbornness on the part of President Opussy, but it sure is creepy.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 07:45 PM (JqEq4)
******
I would venture to guess that this is his way of either trying to focus news away from the Paris attacks or to use the attacks in the news to bury the lede.
Either way, it points to Islamic support by Mom Jeans.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at November 15, 2015 07:47 PM (XvWx1)
Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2015 07:48 PM (ZbV+0)
wearing a hijab, at a minimum, is nothing more than a fashion statement
I am okay with the state not regulating what people wear
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:48 PM (+4mdw)
Agreed, but you can usually tell by how they walk.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 07:48 PM (JqEq4)
based on the company they keep, rather than based on their individual
merits or demerits.
Is this really the argument you want to make?
In war?
Yes.
Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2015 07:49 PM (ZbV+0)
Uh ... that's really a no-brainer. The company they keep and the ideology they follow. Shit, yeah.
rather than based on their individual merits or demerits.
Is this really the argument you want to make?
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:46 PM (+4mdw)
Not "rather than" but "in addition to".
I'll make that argument 8 days a week, because it's correct.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 15, 2015 07:49 PM (zc3Db)
I can't believe the word treason has not been uttered in the halls of congress. Feckless, invertebrate GOP.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 15, 2015 07:49 PM (+bVzV)
Oh he loves him some Muslims, we damn sure know that.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 07:49 PM (JqEq4)
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:46 PM (+4mdw)
******
It is an argument used successfully by law enforcement daily.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at November 15, 2015 07:50 PM (XvWx1)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2015 07:50 PM (4ErVI)
No, it's more meaningful than that and it's a pain in the ass to wear one, so they don't take it lightly.
Ironically, I think France made them illegal awhile back, no? Or was that just in schools?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 07:51 PM (JqEq4)
So all the teeny boppers are wearing them these days?
Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2015 07:51 PM (ZbV+0)
I am okay with the state not regulating what people wear
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:48 PM (+4mdw)
*****
Unless you are in actuality a Muslim woman, you have no basis whatsoever to make such a "factual" statement.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at November 15, 2015 07:52 PM (XvWx1)
Just wait until the muslims go all stabby in this country like they did in Israel.
Posted by: Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 15, 2015 07:52 PM (iQIUe)
nood ace
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a low profile tip and ergonomical handle at November 15, 2015 07:52 PM (b8qru)
Yes.
Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2015 07:49 PM (ZbV+0)
So hijab-wearing women at the grocery store, they are footsoldiers in a war?
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:52 PM (+4mdw)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2015 07:50 PM (4ErVI)
That wasn't all breeding. THe muslims chased out a huge number of arab Christians. Most of the arab immigrants here, in the beginning, were arab Christians. The arab muslims didn't start coming until much later.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 15, 2015 07:52 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2015 07:51 PM (ZbV+0)
I didn't say it was a trendy fashion statement
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:53 PM (+4mdw)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at November 15, 2015 07:50 PM (XvWx1)
Only with conspirators to an actual crime.
Hijab-wearing grocery store shoppers aren't accessories or conspirators to a crime.
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:54 PM (+4mdw)
Posted by: PaleRider at November 15, 2015 07:54 PM (iA/+T)
Islam doesn't.
It considers her a possession of another person.
Posted by: Garrett at November 15, 2015 07:55 PM (6piRM)
I am okay with the state not regulating what people wear
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:48 PM (+4mdw)
Now who's being naive, CJ?
A hijab is most definitely not just a fashion statement. Now it may not be a 1-to-1 marker for radical Islamism but it is signal about the cultural values the wearer adheres to and the style of Islam they follow. And these cultural beliefs and flavor of Islam are correlated with terrorism.
Posted by: Maetenloch at November 15, 2015 07:55 PM (wqVD1)
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:54 PM (+4mdw)
And during WWII, Nazi uniform wearing women at the grocery store wouldn't have been an issue ...
Shit, jeff, just listen to yourself.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 15, 2015 07:57 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:54 PM (+4mdw)
******
You are arguing in favor of the World as you wish it to be, not the way it actually is.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at November 15, 2015 08:00 PM (XvWx1)
To appease muslims we are expected to act as second class citizens in our own country. Fuck dat shit!
Posted by: Bruce With a Gangster Wang! at November 15, 2015 08:00 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 07:31 PM (JqEq4)
Hell, the person wearing one of those things might BE a male relative.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 08:01 PM (oKE6c)
I am okay with the state not regulating what people wear
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:48 PM (+4mdw)
Kinda like wearing KKK sheet and hoods, amirite?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 08:02 PM (oKE6c)
Is this really the argument you want to make?"
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:46 PM (+4md
Good grief, what a ridiculous spin! The company they keep is an Islamic society where infidels have either been killed off or are in the process of being killed off. We already know from survey data and .... from actions such as 9/11, the risk these people pose. In an ideal world we could have a telepath find the truth on individual basis for foreigners coming here. The reality is not the ideal.
Posted by: skzion at November 15, 2015 08:03 PM (9C0d4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNr39mXo50Y
Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2015 08:04 PM (sdi6R)
Sure, some SS members were probably great guys. We should just each one individually, and not jump to conclusions.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 08:04 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: skzion at November 15, 2015 08:05 PM (9C0d4)
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:54 PM (+4mdw)
*shrug* Ask 'em if they donate to terrorist-front charities, you know, like their local mosque. Ask 'em if they think that US aggression caused 9-11. Ask 'em if they handed out candy after 9-11. Make sure they're not lying, too.
Got a real simple solution for any moderates: reform your child-molesting "religion", convert away from your murdering "religion", or die.
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion who longs for the web circa 1997 at November 15, 2015 08:07 PM (k9qR4)
Nun's habit? Another fashion statement?
Nazi regalia? Fashion statement?
Gang colors? Fashion statement?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 08:07 PM (oKE6c)
I am going to have to agree with chemjeff here to the extent that you cannot lump them all together.
I agree with the rest of you insofar as I am willing to agree that until the normal ones join in with getting their radical cousins under control, the entire lot of them need to be watched.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 08:09 PM (JqEq4)
593
A hijab is a fashion statement? How about a yarmulke? Fashion statement?
Nun's habit? Another fashion statement?
Nazi regalia? Fashion statement?
Gang colors? Fashion statement?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 08:07 PM (oKE6c)
At a *minimum*, they are fashion statements, yes
Do you actually want to make it illegal to wear certain types of clothing?
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 08:10 PM (+4mdw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNr39mXo50Y
Posted by: rickl
They said someone shot off some firecrackers.
What a maroon.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 15, 2015 08:11 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 08:10 PM (+4mdw)
Straw man alert: I didn't say anything about illegality.
But in any case, re choice of apparel, wear a bedsheet and hood to work tomorrow, then get back to me.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 08:12 PM (oKE6c)
And during WWII, Nazi uniform wearing women at the grocery store wouldn't have been an issue ...
Shit, jeff, just listen to yourself.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 15, 2015 07:57 PM (zc3Db)
Well I don't consider us to be "at war with Islam". We are at war with terrorists, for sure. So wearing suicide vests at the grocery store would, I suppose, be the appropriate analogy to wearing Nazi uniforms at the grocery store during WW2.
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 08:12 PM (+4mdw)
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 07:48 PM (+4mdw)
Oddly there are a few places in the US where it is illegal to conceal ones identity.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 15, 2015 08:12 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2015 08:12 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 08:10 PM (+4mdw)
Well, that straw man was rather neatly dispatched. Huzzah!
Posted by: Snoodling World Champion who longs for the web circa 1997 at November 15, 2015 08:13 PM (k9qR4)
But in any case, re choice of apparel, wear a bedsheet and hood to work tomorrow, then get back to me.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 08:12 PM (oKE6c)
Well of course wearing KKK garb would be in poor taste, but I don't think it should be illegal.
To some wearing a hijab is in poor taste, and that is fine, but I don't think it should be illegal.
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 08:13 PM (+4mdw)
Yes.
Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2015 07:49 PM (ZbV+0)
In peace?Every nation as a nation has the right to discriminate an immigration applicant solely on the basis of nation of origin and/or cultural background.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 15, 2015 08:15 PM (T78UI)
Impossible to tell. Maybe he has, maybe he hasn't, and is just conning us.
So now you need to use common sense: what's at risk? If the convict was an embezzler, yeah, sure, parole him.
If he'd been a serial killer, you err on the side of caution, because seeing what's in someone's heart is difficult, and if you get it wrong, there'll be a terrible price to pay.
Same principle.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 08:15 PM (oKE6c)
Aha. That's the point.
islam is certainly at war with you, whether you choose to acknowledge it, or not.
We are at war with terrorists, for sure. So wearing suicide vests at the grocery store would, I suppose, be the appropriate analogy to wearing Nazi uniforms at the grocery store during WW2.
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 08:12 PM (+4mdw)
We are not at war with terrorists. It is the arab/persian/muslim world that is threatening us and the West. The terrorists are just their front-line troops.
If you don't understand this then there's not really anything I can say to you. You will learn, eventually. Everyone does - usually too late. You really should read the koran and find out what you are defending.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 15, 2015 08:16 PM (zc3Db)
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No, I want to remove every trace of mohammad's cult from my society
Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2015 08:16 PM (ZbV+0)
He may well be OK, but if you would do that, you're a fool. Risk/benefit = infinite.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 08:17 PM (oKE6c)
That analogy fails because in the case of a convict, we have a documented case of clearly illegal behavior by an individual for which that individual was duly punished.
For a Muslim who is only "guilty" of wearing a hijab, which is not illegal, there is no evidence that this individual is going to commit or has committed any crime.
Now if that individual associates with jihadist groups, then yeah that should be considered.
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 08:18 PM (+4mdw)
to you. You will learn, eventually. Everyone does - usually too late
A bunch of folks in a theater in Paris learned it Friday night.
Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2015 08:19 PM (ZbV+0)
So far.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 08:19 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Jay Guevara
I know you meant that sarcastically, but no. Even the Waffen SS, which were soldiers more than Shutz-Staffel, were not nice guys. They were frequently used as Terror troops, to take on tasks that regular Wehrmacht soldiers might refuse. The regular Wehrmacht tried to follow the Laws of War.
The regular SS were concentration camp guards, special action units, and were under the direct command of Heinrich Himmler. As were the Waffen SS.
One of my friends is a lady that teaches English in the local school system. She has been teaching immersion English to new immigrants. One quarter, she had a bunch of students from Ghana. Really nice kids, eager to learn. Their families were committed to becoming Americans and living here.
The next quarter, she had a bunch of Somali kids (Muslims). Pretty much "fuck you, you're a white Christian and you're going to Hell".
And she's pretty much a down the line White, liberal Democrat.
My two cents on this matter.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at November 15, 2015 08:19 PM (RFeQD)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 08:09 PM (JqEq4)
Religion is a choice, they lump themselves in together.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 15, 2015 08:21 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 15, 2015 08:22 PM (FkBIv)
documented case of clearly illegal behavior by an individual for which
that individual was duly punished.
For a Muslim who is only
"guilty" of wearing a hijab, which is not illegal, there is no evidence
that this individual is going to commit or has committed any crime.
The analysis of my analogy was probably too subtle, for which I apologize. For the convict, we're talking about a time average, whereas for the Muslims were talking about an ensemble average. (As you're a chemist, I assume you'll understand what I'm talking about.)
To your second point, we should assume that someone wearing neo-Nazi garb, or gang colors, or KKK sheets, just has peculiar tastes in haberdashery?
No. They're making a statement.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 08:22 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 15, 2015 08:16 PM (zc3Db)
I'm not actually defending Islam. I think their treatment of nonbelievers and of women and of basically any foreigner is disgusting and repulsive.
But they are entitled to their beliefs as long as they don't harm me.
It's not because I have any love for Islam. I don't. It is because I don't want arbitrary state power used against me for heterodox beliefs that I may hold.
Look at how the government turned against Confederate flag holders after the Charleston shooting. That is basically how you all want to regard people who wear hijabs.
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 08:23 PM (+4mdw)
Somalis are across the board assholes. Scary, wacked assholes.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 15, 2015 08:24 PM (JqEq4)
Now let's lump them all in together, just because of what they wear.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 08:24 PM (oKE6c)
And they're in their own countries. They have no right to immigrate here, and we have no obligation to let them enter, either permanently or temporarily.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 08:26 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2015 08:26 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 08:24 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 08:27 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2015 08:26 PM (4ErVI)
Isn't that illegal in many states? (Covering your face, not losing your shit.)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 08:27 PM (oKE6c)
for which I apologize. For the convict, we're talking about a time
average, whereas for the Muslims were talking about an ensemble average.
(As you're a chemist, I assume you'll understand what I'm talking
about.)
Well yeah. Equating time average with ensemble average works for molecules, because it works, and no one complains because molecules don't have rights. Not for people though.
To your second point, we should assume that someone
wearing neo-Nazi garb, or gang colors, or KKK sheets, just has peculiar
tastes in haberdashery?
No. They're making a statement.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 08:22 PM (oKE6c)
Well sure they are probably making a statement too, but it's a statement they are allowed to make. It is poor choice to run around town wearing KKK garb but it's not illegal nor should it be.
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 08:29 PM (+4mdw)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 08:27 PM (oKE6c)
Not sure. This was back in the early 1990s and it generally applied to ski masks in winter. Some people who worked outdoors in the winter would forget and march in with the face covered. It was always heart attack city for a second or two.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 15, 2015 08:31 PM (4ErVI)
But they are entitled to their beliefs as long as they don't harm me.
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 08:23 PM (+4mdw)
Exactly. And they can stay in muslim countries - we have no need nor desire for them here. It's not as if there's a paucity of islamic nations for them to go to. They have no business here.
The US was blessed through almost the entirety of our history with the fact that we had about ZERO muslims here. The history of the US is one that has no muslims in it, to speak of. That was one of our greatest advantages. We had the black muslims in the mid 20th century, but they were a joke and the rest of the muslim world didn't even consider them muslims ... not until they figured out that they could have a ready ally sitting "in the belly of the beast".
Of course there are decent individual muslims. But that doesn't matter. islam is a major, major problem. Not terrorists. ISLAM. And muslims have no place here. A few individuals here and there is fine, but no muslim immigration, in general, should be allowed. 57 islamic nations isn't enough?
Of course, it would help if we didn't have someone occupying the OVal Office named "hussein" ... but that's the self-hate and nihilism of the left in action.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 15, 2015 08:31 PM (zc3Db)
no right to immigrate here, and we have no obligation to let them
enter, either permanently or temporarily.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 08:26 PM (oKE6c)
Well sure, no one has a right to emigrate here. But IMO we should be smart about it and select people to emigrate here who would add constructively to the talent pool that we already have. And I frankly don't care if individuals are Muslim or not, as long as they aren't known associates of jihadists.
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 08:31 PM (+4mdw)
...read in a history book some years ago (don't remember which one, but it was in a book so it had to be true) that one of the cultural problems when in the Indian Wars was that the indians tended to be very democratic, too democratic. Young hot heads would argue for killing settlers encroaching on their land, older and wiser would argue that it would bring wrath from superior military forces upon them. The hotheads would split off into their own tribe and attack settlers. Sometime later the hothead tribe would meet up and rejoin the old tribe.... Later the cav punitive mission would catch up, to the old tribe... The old tribe would honestly be confused at the hate... they had nothing to do with the attack on settlers, it was that other tribe that did it!
Different cultures are... different.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 15, 2015 08:34 PM (T78UI)
molecules, because it works, and no one complains because molecules
don't have rights. Not for people though.
With respect, I'm not sure you took my point, which was that my analogy (which was flawed because of this) compared convict1 at time t1 with convict1 at time t2 on one hand, versus comparing Muslim1 at time t1 with Muslim2 at time t1.
The point being uncertainty regarding the intentions of the individual going forward.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 08:34 PM (oKE6c)
IMO we should be smart about it and select people to emigrate here who
would add constructively to the talent pool that we already have. And I
frankly don't care if individuals are Muslim or not, as long as they
aren't known associates of jihadists.
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 08:31 PM (+4mdw)
Half of Europe would love to emigrate here (or would have, pre Obongo). They share our values, most of our culture, in some cases even our language.
Why take the chance on people for whom NONE of that is true, and in many instances - as we saw Friday - they want to murder people who share our values? Why??
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 15, 2015 08:37 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 15, 2015 08:37 PM (FkBIv)
Allowed by who?
The whole point of America is that we the people get to make the determination of who is one of us (and thus to be defended, and their rights recognized), what the rules are, and what they aren't.
Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2015 08:38 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: chemjeff @ Fapplebee's at November 15, 2015 08:31 PM (+4mdw)
*****
But you made an earlier argument that people should not be judged by their associations. So, which is it?
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Did ya not see the stabby bus rider the other day?
In a war with no front lines any turban may explode.
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Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)