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Morning Thread (10-29-2015)
Harwood debate prediction status: CONFIRMED
I still can't believe how incredibly awful that was.Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:25 AM (t2KH5)
http://fxn.ws/1MjOzrz
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:25 AM (t2KH5)
http://fxn.ws/1PS5nNk
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:26 AM (t2KH5)
http://fxn.ws/1XAx2Uj
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:26 AM (t2KH5)
DAY 1,087
376 to go (449 to Inauguration Day )
Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, Mao-suits, McCain's, McConnell's, Mahdi megatons, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, mewling mattress-myth manufacturers, marriage maimers, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Myrmidons, Mugwumps, Monrovian microbes, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microaggressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 29, 2015 06:26 AM (uRmWf)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:26 AM (t2KH5)
http://fxn.ws/1WiSDDi
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:26 AM (t2KH5)
So, what are the odds that Debbie Wasserman Schultz hires Mark Levin to moderate the Democrat debate.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 29, 2015 06:27 AM (uRmWf)
http://fxn.ws/1Na2wxq
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:27 AM (t2KH5)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:27 AM (t2KH5)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 29, 2015 06:27 AM (uRmWf)
http://fxn.ws/1KH47Vb
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:27 AM (t2KH5)
http://fxn.ws/1WjTOxd
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:27 AM (t2KH5)
Ted Cruz attacks completely biased moderation:
http://tinyurl.com/ntk5pnc
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 06:28 AM (No/ki)
http://bv.ms/1Gy5D15
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:28 AM (t2KH5)
http://bit.ly/1M2CyLo
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:28 AM (t2KH5)
http://bit.ly/1RfltOo
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:28 AM (t2KH5)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:28 AM (t2KH5)
http://bit.ly/1PS8dls
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:29 AM (t2KH5)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:29 AM (t2KH5)
http://bit.ly/1kcPKTf
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:29 AM (t2KH5)
http://bit.ly/1O8ZHy0
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:30 AM (t2KH5)
http://bit.ly/1PS8WmE
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:30 AM (t2KH5)
http://bit.ly/1ikeN5o
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:30 AM (t2KH5)
http://bit.ly/1M2QYv1
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:30 AM (t2KH5)
http://dailysign.al/1Gy7HpQ
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:31 AM (t2KH5)
http://dailysign.al/1ikFtmC
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:31 AM (t2KH5)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:31 AM (t2KH5)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:32 AM (t2KH5)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:32 AM (t2KH5)
I'm battling a nasty cold and the Nyquil knocked me out before I could watch the debate as planned. Catching up by watching clips this morning.
Yeah, it was bad.
But the real question is: would you hit Becky Quick?
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 29, 2015 06:32 AM (HMt16)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:32 AM (t2KH5)
So, what are the odds that Debbie Wasserman Schultz hires Mark Levin to moderate the Democrat debate.
Nail -> head.
The Stupid Party. So stupid...it burns!
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 29, 2015 06:33 AM (HMt16)
I knew, going in, that the moderators were going to be hostile.. but I had no idea they would be so blatantly hostile. I kept saying to my wife.. this is unbelievable!
Cruz's moment was epic.. just epic..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 29, 2015 06:34 AM (UpGcq)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 06:36 AM (No/ki)
No; I've never hit anyone I've had sex with.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 06:37 AM (No/ki)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 29, 2015 06:38 AM (uRmWf)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 29, 2015 06:39 AM (uRmWf)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 29, 2015 06:41 AM (TcHo8)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 29, 2015 06:41 AM (TcHo
More like the witch queen of New Orleans . . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 29, 2015 06:42 AM (uRmWf)
http://tinyurl.com/ntk5pnc
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 06:43 AM (No/ki)
Around here, every liberal has to have their Fire Pit in the front yard to have their evening with nature.
Those damn things must be combusting as inefficiently as anything known to mankind.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2015 06:44 AM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: anti-socialist at October 29, 2015 06:45 AM (o9lmn)
"Mr. Carson, You said you were explosive and angry as young person. How do we know you won't stab someone when you're President?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 06:45 AM (No/ki)
Although, that's not what debates are FOR. Whoever set up that thing wasted everyone's time
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 29, 2015 06:46 AM (TcHo8)
Ugh. The cure is worse than the cold.
I'm reminded of the old Denis Leary stand-up bit about getting wasted on the cheap: we love you, you great big f--king Q!
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 29, 2015 06:46 AM (HMt16)
.............
Trust me I wanted to last night...with my purse. And for a long drawn out time.
Also I like Ted Cruz as well. I have from the beginning.
Posted by: Molly k. at October 29, 2015 06:46 AM (SRhEQ)
Posted by: LASue at October 29, 2015 06:47 AM (5Rb/A)
And as the new alleged front runner, Ben Carson didn't seem to get much time in the spot light, although what he got was handled fine.
Posted by: anti-socialist at October 29, 2015 06:47 AM (o9lmn)
yet again
Posted by: anti-socialist at October 29, 2015 06:48 AM (o9lmn)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 06:49 AM (No/ki)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 29, 2015 06:51 AM (wImdA)
yet again
The MFM only poll Hillary supporters and other commies.
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at October 29, 2015 06:52 AM (j2xmV)
FenelonSpoke started their new job at the school bus company, (Thanks, Lord) but after only riding around with another person once to see what the route is, they have to pick up the kids in the dark this morning. I admire FenSpouse who printed out maps for everything but it's still new.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 06:52 AM (No/ki)
Posted by: Dave, exiled in RI at October 29, 2015 06:52 AM (j1SgI)
Posted by: no good deed at October 29, 2015 06:53 AM (GgxVX)
But the real question is: would you hit Becky Quick?
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 29, 2015 06:32 AM (HMt16)
_________________________
I do frequently....
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at October 29, 2015 06:54 AM (HSmrB)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 06:54 AM (No/ki)
I don't think so, Hill, She may shill for you and gush but "hit", no?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 06:55 AM (No/ki)
Posted by: Colin at October 29, 2015 06:57 AM (dsM/1)
Posted by: Zombie Freddie Gray at October 29, 2015 07:00 AM (t5zYU)
Wonder if that will be the Ronald Reagan, 'I paid for this microphone' moment that makes people sit up and pay attention?
Posted by: se pa moron at October 29, 2015 07:01 AM (7v/r5)
Although, that's not what debates are FOR. Whoever set up that thing wasted everyone's time
.
.
.I can't believe the RNC would agree to having a debate on CNBC. I mean seriously what's the point of going on one of the lowest rated networks right at the height of the debate season?
Smells planned to me.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 29, 2015 07:02 AM (iONHu)
Ugh. The cure is worse than the cold.
I'm reminded of the old Denis Leary stand-up bit about getting wasted on the cheap: we love you, you great big f--king Q!
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 29, 2015 06:46 AM (HMt16)
NyQuil makes me hallucinate. I hate that shit. Now I can understand the concept of "drank."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 29, 2015 07:03 AM (uRmWf)
Posted by: dogfish at October 29, 2015 07:04 AM (0O2Lr)
Posted by: se pa moron at October 29, 2015 07:01 AM (7v/r5)
I would surmise that any combination of Cruz, Trump and Carson would be unbeatable.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 29, 2015 07:04 AM (uRmWf)
The only good thing is that he's wasting a shit ton of GOPe/Crony Chamber of Capitalist Money.
After last nights debacle, he'll be in low single digits by the end of the week and gone in less than two.
And he can then go off and do some really cool things.
Goodbye jerkwad.
Posted by: Kreplach at October 29, 2015 07:04 AM (2yquu)
Say thank you to Rinsed Penis
Who claims he had no knowledge
But arranged the whole debacle...
Putz.
Posted by: Wicked Witch of Chicago at October 29, 2015 07:04 AM (Nr15I)
He swings at his opponents with what he assumes are these super duper hay makers and whiffs. Then nothing.
If i were a big money donor i'd be pissed at the waste of my donation money to him. Idk, maybe I'm seeing something that's not there.
And Kasich? He looks like desperation teetering on insanity. Seriously, he looks like he's about to go off the rails any minute now.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Cruz!
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at October 29, 2015 07:05 AM (X+nFp)
Posted by: dogfish at October 29, 2015 07:04 AM (0O2Lr)
Last night confirms - as if we need confirmation at this point - that letting the media run the debates makes the entire thing useless and damaging.
Lincoln/Douglas is the only way to go.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 29, 2015 07:05 AM (uRmWf)
Some fool at the NY Post said Teh Rube was the winner!! last night. Other people are gushing about Krispy Kreme and Cruzer. I wouldn't let any of them visit the White House. They are, in varying degrees, representative of the worst in American politics.
All debates are is an opportunity for the lefties to slag on their opponents. I'm sure more is to come from the teevee talking heads today. There is no substance, no compelling reason to support any of the chumps up there on the stage. And certainly absolutely no reason to allow John Harwood in front of a camera again.
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 29, 2015 07:05 AM (qiCMH)
Carl Quintanilla slapped around Goober. Listed a litany of leftwing positions he supports and then says "Are you in the wrong debate?"
Heh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 29, 2015 07:06 AM (uRmWf)
Unbelievable.
Posted by: se pa moron at October 29, 2015 07:08 AM (7v/r5)
It may be unpopular to say it, but cuckold really is the best word to describe the Republican elite.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 29, 2015 07:09 AM (FbUrh)
In the Culture Wars:
A private, members-only, clothing-optional retreat for gay and bisexual men called the Homestead at 3218 will open this fall in the Prairie Chapel community, a little more than a mile from former President George W. Bush's Crawford area ranch.
The Homestead at 3218 will feature "a primitive campsite, outdoor pool, climate-controlled accommodation options and indoor/outdoor playground for gay/bisexual men," according to the website. In addition to an exercise room, steam room and game room, the site invites people to "explore the dark play spaces in the tool shed or outside in the pig pen."
http://tinyurl.com/oh4vk9w
"Hey Homie, I can see your doodle!"
"Shut up, Flanders!"
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 29, 2015 07:09 AM (kdS6q)
http://www.ufunk.net/en/gadgets/yamaha-motobot/
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 29, 2015 07:11 AM (tZOdt)
Baltimore awarded $6.4 million to the family of the late and lamented Freddy Gray.
Baltimore explained that the payment came out of cash inflow generated from crime prevention, instead of taxpayer paid monies, so it really didn't cost the city anything to pay this out.
Did I mention that the Federal Government is giving the city $1.5 million to fight violence?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2015 07:12 AM (VPLuQ)
Say thank you to Rinsed Penis
Who claims he had no knowledge
But arranged the whole debacle...
Get liberal moderators, who are sure to attack the most conservative candidates, damage them, eliminate them, then your hand-picked squish gets a clear glide path.
I'm convinced the GOPe plans it this way.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 29, 2015 07:12 AM (oVJmc)
People would climb over each other to move into the city so that their kids could get that money. New private schools, from one room operations with 10 kids to 500 student more traditional schools would spring up overnight.
On top of that, homeschoolers would get to keep the money. As long as the kid proves residency and passes the test each year, the parent gets the check. Of course, if the parent is home schooling, it's taxable income.
Let's see if LaShawda and D'wan are out on the street at all hours or at the kitchen table studying to pass that yearly test.
If they don't pass the test, they get one chance at a makeup then a state education advisor spends the voucher on the kid's behalf.
Posted by: jwest at October 29, 2015 07:14 AM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2015 07:12 AM
There are times when members of certain groups seem to be putting out a big effort to prove every negative stereotype ever hurled at them is 100% true.
Right now, everyone from the Preezy to students in local classrooms appear to be making that effort.
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 29, 2015 07:16 AM (qiCMH)
You hear this?
During the debate that piece of shit Barbara Boxer tweeted "the Republicans are attacking the press just like Nixon used to do."
She of course doesnt believe what she said, but she said because it's good politics for Dumb People to lap up.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 29, 2015 07:16 AM (W/wFn)
Candy Crowley will look like David Brinkley in comparison.
Posted by: Valiant at October 29, 2015 07:17 AM (2bqlb)
Posted by: MTF at October 29, 2015 07:18 AM (GFYLz)
Why do you think a state that has gone Donk in 88, 92, 96, 00, 08 and 12 is given the honor of being the first out of the gate in the primaries?
All of this is orchestrated by the GOPe to give us GOPe squishes and incompetents.
Our real enemy is the GOPe.
Posted by: Kreplach at October 29, 2015 07:19 AM (2yquu)
candidates, damage them, eliminate them, then your hand-picked squish
gets a clear glide path.
I'm convinced the GOPe plans it this way.
.
.
.While there might be some truth in that statement, I am not convinced that is what happened. The RNC had no idea Trump and Carson would be so far in the lead at this point when they set up the debates. As far as they were concerned Jeb! would be in front by a comfortable margin when they set up the debate schedule because that's what everyone was telling everyone else.
I am still not sure why they agreed to a debate on CNBC. It defies logic and maybe that's the simple answer; Stupidity.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 29, 2015 07:20 AM (iONHu)
Posted by: MTF at October 29, 2015 07:21 AM (GFYLz)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 07:22 AM (t2KH5)
Yes, please do explore the spaces loved by scorpions, snakes, and tarantulas.
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at October 29, 2015 07:23 AM (j2xmV)
Posted by: MTF at October 29, 2015 07:21 AM (GFYLz)
All the pre-debate buzz was that Kasich was going to explode and do something dramatic. He did appear to be ready for a nervous breakdown with his facial expressions and body language.
Posted by: jwest at October 29, 2015 07:23 AM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: MTF at October 29, 2015 07:24 AM (GFYLz)
Posted by: dogfish at October 29, 2015 07:24 AM (0O2Lr)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 29, 2015 07:25 AM (VdICR)
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at October 29, 2015 07:25 AM (1BQGO)
Yayyyy!!
Posted by: Bruce at October 29, 2015 07:25 AM (8ikIW)
Posted by: MTF at October 29, 2015 07:26 AM (GFYLz)
I clearly do not have the Massive Brain Power and Political Strategy Chops of, say, Prince Reebus or Rover Boy, but I'm guessing they might think letting the liberal wack-jobs run the debates makes them look Fearless and Strong.
There's no doubt they have been plotting the ascendancy of Heb! for a long, long time. They probably predicted that any debate moderator who attempted to wring substance from him would look like they were kicking a puppy.
And, of course, this meshes perfectly with the Boner/Bitch McConnell/Ryan strategy of handing total power to the Democrats so they wouldn't have to expend any effort at governing, but could just sit back and nibble on the fat.
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 29, 2015 07:27 AM (qiCMH)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 29, 2015 07:28 AM (my89H)
Posted by: se pa moron at October 29, 2015 07:31 AM (7v/r5)
Posted by: Y-not at October 29, 2015 07:32 AM (t5zYU)
I still can't believe how incredibly awful that was.
D-Lamp was a prophet without honor.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 29, 2015 07:33 AM (X6fMO)
It's 66 here in Boston.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 29, 2015 07:33 AM (W/wFn)
Posted by: Y-not at October 29, 2015 07:33 AM (t5zYU)
...in BOULDER f'ng COLORADO!!
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 29, 2015 07:36 AM (5buP8)
...in BOULDER f'ng COLORADO!!
Your right, Boulder? the audience must have been from elsewhere!
Posted by: Colin at October 29, 2015 07:37 AM (dsM/1)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 29, 2015 07:38 AM (iONHu)
mounting it seems. And I agree with them. Do the job you were elected to
do or resign. Fairly simple really.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
All he ever wanted was to give a good days work for a months salary. Is that too much to ask?
Posted by: Bruce at October 29, 2015 07:39 AM (8ikIW)
The "Most Powerfull Conservative in America"(tm) speaks:
Here Is Why I Do Not Blame the RNC For the CNBC Debate
By Erick "Erick" Erickson
Yes, the CNBC debate was terrible. Yes, John Harwood should have been blocked as George Stephanopoulos was. Yes, NBC and its sister stations should never, ever host a GOP Primary debate again. But....
http://tinyurl.com/nj647a4
But? Whut but???
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 29, 2015 07:39 AM (kdS6q)
Also, any scuttlebutt on who will replace Boehner? Does Kasich make the appointment?
Posted by: Y-not at October 29, 2015 07:40 AM (t5zYU)
Posted by: Cicero Skip at October 29, 2015 07:40 AM (FIrEF)
Posted by: @votermom at October 29, 2015 07:41 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: dogfish at October 29, 2015 07:41 AM (0O2Lr)
http://bit.ly/1PS8dls
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 06:29 AM (t2KH5)
You mean going to fund raisers for himself and a Bulls game isn't Prezzy related? He shut down parts of the Loop, Lake Shore Drive and the Eisenhower expressway that day just to play around
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 29, 2015 07:42 AM (DiZBp)
If the republicans made this their focus in 2016, the inner-city vote would be about 98% for the GOP.
Posted by: jwest at October 29, 2015 07:42 AM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at October 29, 2015 07:42 AM (Bbcs8)
Harwood was so bad during the debate even the audience booed him.....in BOULDER f'ng COLORADO!!
The audience of 1000 was almost entirely GOP A-listers. Only a 150 tickets for the dirty hippie college students. Friendly house.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 29, 2015 07:42 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Guaman at October 29, 2015 07:43 AM (Yxb86)
Posted by: Colin at October 29, 2015 07:37 AM (dsM/1)
Or stoned.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 29, 2015 07:43 AM (uRmWf)
Posted by: Guaman at October 29, 2015 07:43 AM
You so funny!
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 29, 2015 07:44 AM (qiCMH)
The calls (not from you but from others) seem to be a double standard. As Rubio said last night nobody asked Obama or Kerry to resign when they were running for President, and is anyone asking Cruz to resign?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 07:44 AM (No/ki)
Posted by: Kreplach at October 29, 2015 07:45 AM (2yquu)
Bill Kristol
Would be better to have @PaulBegala, @davidaxelrod, @danpfeiffer as questioners. They'd be more intelligent and less self-righteous.
Yeah, that would have taken care of that whole "bias" problem.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 29, 2015 07:45 AM (kdS6q)
Nah, real slow. Much more suffering involved that way.
Just, as the saying goes, to see. The Look. On Her Face.
We are waking up in a whole new world this morning, even if it hasn't shaken out quite yet. When a college crowd in Boulder fer chrissake booed the MFM, they had a reverse-Sally Fields moment. "They hate us! They really hate us!"
Surprised Harwood didn't cry. But, the day is yet young.
"Courage."
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 29, 2015 07:45 AM (xq1UY)
...in BOULDER f'ng COLORADO!!
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 29, 2015 07:36 AM (5buP
I'm sure the smug asshole got off on it and patted himself on the back for his little performance.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 29, 2015 07:46 AM (DiZBp)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 07:46 AM (No/ki)
My has that changed now. Candidates never resign. Why should they? The don't represent the people or the State anymore. On the Republican side they Represent the Chamber of Commerce, corrupt cronies, and the Party. Much the same for the Dems except they only represent themselves, the Party, and corrupt cronies while pushing their socialist agenda.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 07:47 AM (t2KH5)
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at October 29, 2015 07:49 AM (1BQGO)
Grammie's verse of the day:
"The tongue of the wise makes knowledge attractive, but the mouth of fools blurts out foolishness."
Proverbs 15:2
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at October 29, 2015 07:50 AM (dFi94)
Is Cruz showing up to vote on bills? If you are going to run you need to make time to do your day job too. Rubio has just ditched his job.
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at October 29, 2015 07:50 AM (Bbcs8)
Dondi was a cartoon strip character back in the 70's He (or his family) was an immigrant but I think it was from Italy. Now that you mention it, I can see the resemblance.
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at October 29, 2015 07:51 AM (1BQGO)
NPR Debate Shot Clock:
Final:
Fiorina: 10:32
Rubio: 10:10
Kasich: 9:42
Trump: 9:26
Christie: 8:31
Huckabee: 7:39
Cruz: 7:34
Carson: 7:02
Bush: 6:39
Paul: 6:15
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 29, 2015 07:52 AM (kdS6q)
So I'll be back tomorrow.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 29, 2015 07:52 AM (t2KH5)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 29, 2015 07:52 AM (xq1UY)
As Rubio said last night nobody asked Obama or Kerry to resign when they
were running for President, and is anyone asking Cruz to resign?
.
.
.Did anyone else go on National TV and bitch and moan about how much they hated their job and wish they had never gotten it?
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 29, 2015 07:53 AM (iONHu)
Posted by: Y-not at October 29, 2015 07:54 AM (t5zYU)
Posted by: Y-not at October 29, 2015 07:54 AM (t5zYU)
Unfortunately, Rubio is not experienced enough to deal with real politics (see, Shuckie Chumer rickrolling).
He is currently the GOPe heir-apparent to Yeb!
Posted by: mustbequantum at October 29, 2015 07:54 AM (MIKMs)
to resign when they were running for President, and is anyone asking
Cruz to resign?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 07:44 AM
FS, I don't recall either Choom Boy or Lurch being as openly disdainful of their well-paying Senate gigs. The Roob has really set himself apart by -- in essence -- saying "hey, the Senate isn't good enough for me." I'd say that's worthy of kicking anyone's[ butt out of office, especially when he's still grabbing his check. Bet he'll still take that cushy pension, too.
I've never liked the finger-pointing defense, either. Just because someone can fail more miserably than you doesn't qualify you to be a taxpayer-supported flake.
It's too bad Rubio can't be fired, IMO. With an attitude like his, he doesn't deserve to quit.
And yes, I think the same goes for Cruz. People who want to be president should show a little integrity first.
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 29, 2015 07:55 AM (qiCMH)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 07:55 AM (No/ki)
en lieu of the moderators apologizing to the GOP and America (whichwould never happen) he needs to apologize and step down.
When you're the only man in the room with the power to change this AND the only man in the room who didn' see this coming, you deserve to lose your job.
Posted by: Ty Angur at October 29, 2015 07:55 AM (BimmG)
Posted by: Y-not at October 29, 2015 07:56 AM (t5zYU)
Unreal, yet all too real given the past 7 years (close up the spaces)
http://www.foxnews.com/
opinion/2015/10/28/
beware-america-president-obama-has-put-politics-into-your-pensions.html
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 29, 2015 07:56 AM (uRmWf)
Posted by: dogfish at October 29, 2015 07:56 AM (0O2Lr)
Proverbs 15:2
Very fitting!!
Posted by: Lea at October 29, 2015 07:56 AM (vmMMi)
You've obviously only seen it after steaming. OK, like Reince's brain.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 29, 2015 07:57 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Y-not at October 29, 2015 07:57 AM (t5zYU)
Unfortunately, Rubio is not experienced enough to deal with real politics (see, Shuckie Chumer rickrolling).
He is currently the GOPe heir-apparent to Yeb!
Posted by: mustbequantum at October 29, 2015 07:54 AM (MIKMs)
Want to cry your eyes out, go watch the movie "The Search," which was the screen debut of Montgomery Clift who plays a GI that tries to adopt an orphaned war survivor in Austria.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 29, 2015 07:57 AM (uRmWf)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 07:58 AM (No/ki)
Posted by: daninmichigan at October 29, 2015 07:58 AM (2yD4G)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 29, 2015 07:58 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: daninmichigan at October 29, 2015 07:58 AM (2yD4G)
Hey now!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 29, 2015 07:58 AM (uRmWf)
Whoops; Meant that I don't recall that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 07:59 AM (No/ki)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 29, 2015 07:58 AM (xq1UY)
It was just a gag.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 29, 2015 08:00 AM (uRmWf)
O.K. It's crummy thing to say, but if he hadn't said that would you be calling for his resignation?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 08:01 AM (No/ki)
Posted by: Kreplach at October 29, 2015 08:01 AM (2yquu)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at October 29, 2015 08:02 AM (cxfi1)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 29, 2015 08:02 AM (ee9LE)
Posted by: Lea at October 29, 2015 08:02 AM (vmMMi)
In the mid-50's some critics predicted the rise of a new genre, "business fiction," based on the impact of Gray Flannel, Generation of Vipers, and Atlas You-Know-What. But we got politics instead. Or, both together...
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 29, 2015 08:03 AM (xq1UY)
Search," which was the screen debut of Montgomery Clift who plays a GI
that tries to adopt an orphaned war survivor in Austria.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 29, 2015 07:57 AM
Never saw that one, JJ. But I remember reading "Dondi" in the local paper's comic section. Like so many other strips, it just kinda lolled along, never making much of an impression. I think the artist who created it was just trying to tell a story and not milking it incessantly for pathos. Wasn't a real tear-jerker.
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 29, 2015 08:03 AM (qiCMH)
Posted by: blaster at October 29, 2015 08:04 AM (HtsKA)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 29, 2015 08:04 AM (oVJmc)
GOPe has been Cruz's grill about votes for many many months. It prompted me to do an analysts of voting records last year iirc.
Posted by: Y-not
There are sites doing the math for us. Fer'instance:
www.govtrack.us/congress/members/marco_rubio/412491
Rubio went asymptotic this year and is missing over 90% of the votes this month.
The bum.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 29, 2015 08:04 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 29, 2015 08:05 AM (qiCMH)
@139 Dude, so unfair to asparagus. In its natural state, it can stand up firmly.
You've obviously only seen it after steaming. OK, like Reince's brain.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 29, 2015 07:57 AM (xq1UY)
******
Tell Bob Dole more about this "asparagus."
Posted by: Bob Dole at October 29, 2015 08:05 AM (yxw0r)
Posted by: The NEA at October 29, 2015 08:06 AM (1ijHg)
.
.
.No. He wouldn't be any different from anyone else who ran for President while being a Senator, but he did say it. He went out of his way to say it. It just busts my chops that he thinks he can get away with saying he hates his job and it sucks and he wishes he never took it while still pocketing that $175,000 paycheck.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 29, 2015 08:06 AM (iONHu)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 29, 2015 08:07 AM (Z+JNA)
Sure starting to look like the second option.
Posted by: dissent555 at October 29, 2015 08:08 AM (GdgAM)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 29, 2015 08:08 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: blaster at October 29, 2015 08:04 AM
Two wrongs, etc., etc., etc.
Time to hold these lazy, overcompensated, arrogant jerks' feet to the fire. And I'm perfectly willing to make Mr Amnesty the showpiece of a new, hard-core policy that, in essence, says "do your job or you're toast!"
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 29, 2015 08:08 AM (qiCMH)
In other news, good roundup of defense news here:
Defense Links Roundup http://wp.me/pgUFE-bFk
Posted by: Y-not at October 29, 2015 08:08 AM (t5zYU)
Replacing public schools with vouchers (I'm for it!) is going to require a real cagey oversight detective force. There will be fraud. Storefront churches first. Sad experience: La Stringereuse was part of a federal investigative agency, and when they let out grants for day-care programs, phantom chilluns came out of the woodwork. A lot got popped; law of averages assumes many did not.
Just a cost of doing business, though. When there's public money being handed out, Things Happen. The system as it exists is fraud from stem to stern.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 29, 2015 08:11 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 29, 2015 08:12 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Bigby's Pricking Thumbs at October 29, 2015 08:14 AM (3ZtZW)
I'd love to be otherwise pleasantly surprised, however.
Posted by: dissent555 at October 29, 2015 08:15 AM (GdgAM)
Jeb, Kasich and Rubio can fuck off.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at October 29, 2015 08:16 AM (1ijHg)
agency, and when they let out grants for day-care programs, phantom
chilluns came out of the woodwork. A lot got popped; law of averages
assumes many did not."
EITC.
From 2003 to 2012, the Treasury IG concluded that over $130B was improperly refunded by the IRS due predominantly to fraud in this program.
That is a metric shit-ton of phantom chilluns.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 29, 2015 08:16 AM (noWW6)
Posted by: "Zod", My Preferred Gender Pronoun at October 29, 2015 08:17 AM (ymEhC)
Posted by: "Zod", My Preferred Gender Pronoun at October 29, 2015 08:17 AM (ymEhC)
Everyday!
Posted by: Not quite zombie Lamar Odom at October 29, 2015 08:19 AM (X+nFp)
Jeb, Kasich and Rubio can fuck off.
Mostly concur except that I thought Rubio did quite well.
The whole debate sucked. Nobody won.
Bush and Kasich lost.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at October 29, 2015 08:20 AM (cxfi1)
Rubio lost me permanently back when he started saying one thing about amnesty in English-language interviews and something entirely different about amnesty in Spanish-language interviews.
But, that said, the Rube got genuinely awful treatment from Harwood last night, with Harwood repeating a bullshit claim about Rubio's tax proposals that Harwood himself had previously had to correct -- and Rubio then called him on it -- and Harwood denied having made the previous correction! Unbelievable.
Harwood should be fired, and Reince Priebus should be fired for having agreed to allow someone like Harwood to "moderate" a GOP debate. Of course, the system is now so rotten that both of these bad apples will stay put.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 29, 2015 08:21 AM (noWW6)
Objections?
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at October 29, 2015 08:21 AM (X+nFp)
Posted by: Fritz at October 29, 2015 08:21 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 07:44 AM (No/ki)
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I want Rubio to resign because he is not representing his constituents, he is, essentially, stealing money from us.
Note, people aren't jumping on Cruz or Graham about it because they are smart enough not to disrespect the people that put them in office.
I can't believe people would even consider Rubio.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 29, 2015 08:24 AM (LXJ1e)
I just Skype'd my boss and asked if I can work from home today. Feel like shite. She said no problem.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 29, 2015 08:24 AM (HMt16)
Until then, I'll take your word for it that the stories were interesting.
Posted by: Beeblebrox has 2 Heads at October 29, 2015 08:25 AM (OPCz2)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 29, 2015 08:26 AM (HMt16)
Yeah, no.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 29, 2015 08:12 AM (oVJmc)
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An OK from certain angles type. Like that one Seinfeld girlfriend.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 29, 2015 08:26 AM (LXJ1e)
I don't expect much outcry from the public regarding liberal media bias.
I've spent years shoveling out the progressive crap that the closet
leftists dumped into my young and impressionable mind back in the day;
I'm no spring chicken, mind you. But I'm of the impression that most of
the public is much less further along in that process than they are in
salting money away for their mythical retirements.
I'd love to be otherwise pleasantly surprised, however.
Posted by: dissent555 at October 29, 2015 08:15 AM (GdgAM)
***************
No, they won't wake up. But they did get a brief sleepus interruptus after the last Dem debate, when the MSM quickly proclaimed Hillary the winner, when all signs pointed to Sanders. For one brief, shining moment, they realized the media create their own narrative, regardless of reality.
Then they went back to sleep.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at October 29, 2015 08:27 AM (yxw0r)
Wasn't Dondi Indian? India Indian, not Elizabeth Warren Indian.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 29, 2015 08:29 AM (HMt16)
http://tinyurl.com/pcbvkw6
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 08:29 AM (No/ki)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 29, 2015 08:30 AM (uMole)
"Freaks" is on TCM.
Posted by: Urban Achiever at October 29, 2015 08:31 AM (c0v7Z)
Next debate- Drop Kasich, Huck, Paul and Christie from "big boy" debate and add Jindal.
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher
Republican presidential hopefuls will need to clear a 2.5 percent average in the polls to secure a place on the main stage at the November 10 debate.
Fox Business says that candidates placement will be determined based on an average of the four most recent national polls conducted through November 4. Those who score 2.5 percent or higher will participate in the prime time 9 p.m. ET debate, while the remaining candidates will take part in a 6 p.m. ET faceoff.
Christie is averaging just 2 percent in the four most recent national polls, with eight days to go until the polling window closes. And he isn't the only one on the bubble: Ohio Gov. John Kasich is averaging exactly a 2.5 percent.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 29, 2015 08:31 AM (kdS6q)
Big points to Cruz & Rubio for nailing them on this. I loved when Rubio talked about the Democrat candidates having the biggest Super Pac - the MSM using Clinton's Benghazi performance as an example.
Posted by: Cheri at October 29, 2015 08:32 AM (oiNtH)
At least, that's what we'll call the gruel.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 29, 2015 08:26 AM (HMt16)
The "Fun Camps" will be fun at breakfast time. Gruel fights.
Posted by: Colin at October 29, 2015 08:32 AM (dsM/1)
Unreal. Don't like Huck, but he did ok with it. Should have been a homerun however; "I'm sorry, are you the "don't judge" left asking me to judge a man on his soul?"
Posted by: typo dynamofo at October 29, 2015 08:33 AM (ZY2zO)
Nobody is really jumping on Rubio with the exception of one liberal newspaper in Florida. People aren't jumping on Cruz or Graham or Paul or Christie or Kasich or other elected officials because it's usually elected officials who run for President.
I've got my issues with Rubio, mostly around illegal immigration, but this is a non-issue.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 29, 2015 08:33 AM (/tuJf)
If you recall Bob Dole was forced to resign his seat when running in '96 and he was a work horse in the Senate for 30 years. If its good enough for Bob Dole, its good enough for some young punk.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 29, 2015 08:33 AM (LXJ1e)
Yep. Rubio telegraphed again during his closing statement his ordered priority:
#1 Those wanting to immigrate to US #2 US citizens
Posted by: dogfish at October 29, 2015 08:34 AM (0O2Lr)
I just Skype'd my boss and asked if I can work from home today. Feel like shite. She said no problem.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 29, 2015 08:24 AM (HMt16)
Me too.
Did someone blow spit all over the ONT? I blame the trolls for my illness.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. (brandisher of ampersands) at October 29, 2015 08:34 AM (P8951)
"Freaks" is on TCM.
Total classic. What an amazing film. I used to have it on VCR tape back in the day.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 29, 2015 08:36 AM (HMt16)
No, it's not my argument. My argument is "If people want this rule-that you cannot be in the House or Senate and run for President" than make that rule when they first come into the office.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 08:37 AM (No/ki)
Posted by: Bigby's Fistful of Dice at October 29, 2015 08:37 AM (NF19W)
178 Walking through Union Station this morning, I had to dodge people handing out samples of Quaker Oatmeal, proclaiming it "National Oatmeal Day". Damn, I love our contemporary Corporatist/Idiocratic/Buzzfeed and Madison Avenue-driven culture. When is " National Hookers and Blow Day"?
Posted by: "Zod", My Preferred Gender Pronoun at October 29, 2015 08:17 AM (ymEhC)
Not coincidently, today is also "Clean Up Your Pet's Vomit Day", so maybe that was oatmeal and maybe it wasn't...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 29, 2015 08:37 AM (BK3ZS)
Posted by: @votermom at October 29, 2015 08:39 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 29, 2015 08:36 AM (HMt16)
Yes, it is but the last shot of Chickenwoman always made me laugh.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. (brandisher of ampersands) at October 29, 2015 08:39 AM (P8951)
Did someone blow spit all over the ONT? I blame the trolls for my illness.
Funny enough, I feel like hell today, too.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 29, 2015 08:39 AM (oVJmc)
Speaking of "fun," The Onion has a fake editorial by "Hillary" up, in which she makes the case that she is, indeed, fun. It's pretty amusing.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 29, 2015 08:39 AM (HMt16)
I don't really "consider" him if that means he's my first or second choice. I would vote for him over Hillary-yes.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 08:39 AM (No/ki)
Nobody is really jumping on Rubio with the exception of one liberal newspaper in Florida. People aren't jumping on Cruz or Graham or Paul or Christie or Kasich or other elected officials because it's usually elected officials who run for President.
I've got my issues with Rubio, mostly around illegal immigration, but this is a non-issue.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 29, 2015 08:33 AM (/tuJf)
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In addition to amnesty I have an issue with the permanent politician class. Rubio is a prime example of the entitlement mentality of that class.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 29, 2015 08:39 AM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 08:40 AM (No/ki)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 29, 2015 08:41 AM (xq1UY)
Have you been consigned to the Barrel lately?
All kinds of stuff you can catch in there.
There's that one Barrel germ that is sort-of-like-leprosy. Except in real leprosy, when your body parts fall off, they don't then start crawling around the floor under their own power.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 29, 2015 08:42 AM (noWW6)
If the gov't gave you the building and $540,000 per year (well, 180 days) to educate a classroom of 30 kids, could you do it?
Yeah, I think I could do it. I'd just hire a really good teacher for $250k and 'administrate' the rest of the money.
Posted by: t-bird at October 29, 2015 08:43 AM (mxCgt)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 08:43 AM (No/ki)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 08:37 AM (No/ki)
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No the rule is, if your in the House or Senate you should at least make an effort to show up for votes, whether your running for President or not.
That applies to all candidates and I held that against Obama too.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 29, 2015 08:44 AM (LXJ1e)
What Id like to see is presidential campaigns, Republican pundits and conservative commentators embargoing CNBC, NBC, MSNBC and the rest, the entire NBC family. No more debates, no more interviews, no more commentary for these scumbags.
Posted by: The Nayden Broad at October 29, 2015 08:46 AM (0C/xc)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 08:46 AM (No/ki)
The MSM are throwing attack monkeys and poison gas at the candidates expecting them to turn on each other to survive; instead the candidates start going all Katniss on them.
Posted by: @votermom at October 29, 2015 08:46 AM (cbfNE)
I think if it has expired that is the route you have to go. If it's just a renewal it's easier.
You can always use one of the passport/visa expediter firms but they cost.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 29, 2015 08:47 AM (/tuJf)
I expect Cruz to get a big bump in the polls.
The wretched GOPe will salivate over Rubio's solid performance but will it translate into a meaningful poll bump?
Christie did good but I still wouldn't vote for him.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 29, 2015 08:49 AM (HMt16)
Posted by: Wind Breaker at October 29, 2015 08:49 AM (/pOl7)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 29, 2015 08:50 AM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 08:43 AM (No/ki)
Should just be this form.
http://tinyurl.com/o3jnnrf
You can also complete it online.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 29, 2015 08:50 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 29, 2015 08:50 AM (ZQfW9)
If he has an expired passport then that's pretty much all you need.
http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/passports/apply.html
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 29, 2015 08:50 AM (Zu3d9)
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The only simpler part of renewal is that you can do it by mail, don't have to appear in person. And I think ypu don't need to submit the docs anymore (not sure, I can check).
This only applies if your son was older than 16 the last time he got a passport, btw. Otherwise it will be treated as a first time application, basically.
Posted by: @votermom at October 29, 2015 08:50 AM (cbfNE)
gave me a long form-Application for US passport. Isn't there any simpler
way to do this if you're just reapplying?"
As I recall the process, if the passport has been allowed to expire, it's not considered reapplication in the eyes of the State Department. Either get the renewal in on time, or apply _de novo_. Those were the only two options.
Also, get ready to be bent over hard on the fees. They have gone up sharply relatively to what they were a few years back.
Yes, if you're in the serf class in 21st century America, you have to pay through the nose to your own government so that it will magnanimously allow you to exercise your right to travel abroad.
They say that all this is in the interests of "security". While at the same time the same government allows tens of millions of individuals, unchecked and without papers, to wander in over the southern borders. It's Dr. Pournelle's "anarcho-tyranny" on display.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 29, 2015 08:51 AM (noWW6)
I didn't watch because I really don't find political debates informative or worthwhile. The Democrat "debates" are more like infomercials. ("Tell us more about how your plan for totally free college will boost the economy!") The Republican ones are like 60 Minutes interviewing the corrupt CEO of a Health Insurance Company that was caught selling fake insurance policies to old people through a telemarketing scam while simultaneously running a child prostitution ring and puppy abattoir.
Posted by: V the K at October 29, 2015 08:51 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 08:52 AM (No/ki)
(delete space after the word content)
http://travel.state.gov/content /passports/en/passports/renew.html
Posted by: @votermom at October 29, 2015 08:52 AM (cbfNE)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 29, 2015 08:47 AM (/tuJf)
300-500 for the service we use.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 29, 2015 08:52 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 29, 2015 08:53 AM (+c55T)
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If you've seen him on newscasts, you can tell he's not a fast thinker, has no quick responses to anything. He's probably good for some stuff, maybe he's a good writer, something not on-the-spot
Posted by: Bigby's Pricking Thumbs at October 29, 2015 08:54 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 08:54 AM (No/ki)
Posted by: Lea at October 29, 2015 08:54 AM (lIU4e)
I don't think so.
This is all pretty straightforward stuff....it should be easy. Your post office probably does it all.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 29, 2015 08:54 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 29, 2015 08:55 AM (oVJmc)
That's crazy. It just shows what a pain in the ass it is to deal with the government, people will pay a lot of money to have someone do it for them.
I've used them for visas which depending on the country are an enormous pain in the ass but that much for passport assistance is nuts.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 29, 2015 08:56 AM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 29, 2015 08:56 AM (oVJmc)
Get it well in advance so you don't pay the rush fees.
Some countries won't let you in if your passport expires in six months or less, so might as well renew at that point.
Posted by: @votermom at October 29, 2015 08:56 AM (cbfNE)
The best way to get a kid to learn is to get the parent(s) involved.
The best way to get the parent involved is to give them the money.
Posted by: jwest at October 29, 2015 08:57 AM (Zs4uk)
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I expect Cruz to get labeled as some kind of crazy wild man who can't be trusted with this highest office in the free world yatta yatta
There's already the spin that CNBC 'lost control of the debate' which is an attempt to make them passive victims of GOP predators. Its almost rape, guys
Posted by: Bigby's Pricking Thumbs at October 29, 2015 08:57 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: maddogg at October 29, 2015 08:57 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 29,
So after it is readjusted in 30 days or so, it will be .15%
Happy F*cking Days
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 29, 2015 08:57 AM (+c55T)
We win again! Champagne, anyone?
Posted by: Steve Kroft at October 29, 2015 08:58 AM (mxCgt)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 29, 2015 08:53 AM (+c55T)
[Raises coffee cup in MH's direction]
Posted by: Bob the NSA Guy at October 29, 2015 08:58 AM (RD7QR)
Miserable, cold, rainy and gray here for the last 3 days.
Ugh. Very glad I can work from home, where nobody can hear me coughing and hacking.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 29, 2015 08:58 AM (HMt16)
a member of the non-Leninist wing of the Russian Social Democratic Workers' Party, opposed to the Bolsheviks and defeated by them after the overthrow of the tsar in 1917.
His line last nighg was that watching the democrat debate was like a debate between the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks.
Hats off to him.
Posted by: se pa moron at October 29, 2015 08:58 AM (7v/r5)
Posted by: V the K at October 29, 2015 08:58 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: jwest at October 29, 2015 08:57 AM (Zs4uk
Yeah, that works out so well in the inner cities.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 29, 2015 08:58 AM (+c55T)
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/356462.php
From Jan '13 thru April '15, Cruz had missed 88 votes; Rubio had missed 77.
Posted by: Y-not at October 29, 2015 08:58 AM (t5zYU)
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Both parents have to show up with him when applying, iirc.
Posted by: @votermom at October 29, 2015 08:59 AM (cbfNE)
Years ago you could get a passport issued right away on an emergency basis if you had a plane ticket. I don't know if that works anymore, but you could get a ticket issued from a friendly travel agent who would let you cancel it.
Barring that, I would never go through the Post Office. You can make an appointment at a Passport Office in your nearest big city and get it handled on an expedited basis.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at October 29, 2015 08:59 AM (cxfi1)
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. (brandisher of ampersands) at October 29, 2015 08:59 AM (P8951)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 29, 2015 08:56 AM (oVJmc)
Care to wager whether that will be adjusted downward?
My quick and dirty measure is the number of empty storefronts I see. And, because I live near the largest retail concentration in the country, it's probably not too far off.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 29, 2015 09:01 AM (Zu3d9)
Remember, after 2013, the GDP calculations were hastily rejiggered in order to artificially add about 2% worth of "intangibles".
So, reckoned under the old system, without that Obama thumb on the positive side of the scale, 1.5% growth would actually mean recessionary territory.
By the way, howdja like Harwood's characterization of the U.S. economy last night as the "strongest in the world"? The guy must have the Kool-Aid shipped to him in 55 gallon drums.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 29, 2015 09:02 AM (noWW6)
AoS commenters: doing the job minx won't do.
Let me be your advocate! I want to be one of you!
Posted by: Yeb! at October 29, 2015 09:02 AM (jRs7b)
I know punditry is saying that Rubio carried the day
for me, it was all Cruz
he was spectacular when he stopped giving canned answers and went directly at the moderators
spectacular
Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 29, 2015 09:03 AM (zOTsN)
They're down one spy blimp, we might be OK.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at October 29, 2015 09:03 AM (cxfi1)
Posted by: steevy at October 29, 2015 09:03 AM (8HTq1)
This is a renewal, and going through the post office should work perfectly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 29, 2015 09:04 AM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Fox News at October 29, 2015 09:04 AM (7+WUk)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 29, 2015 09:04 AM (iONHu)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 29, 2015 08:58 AM (+c55T)
It would if we did it.
Right now, a single welfare mother of 4 gets food stamps, subsidized housing, heating, and other stuff along with her kids getting an education at a public school that doesn't actually teach anything at $19,000 ea.
With my plan, the mother would probably home school the kids, getting $68,000 total. She no longer is on welfare, she has to pay income taxes and she knows that if the kids don't pass the test each year, her income is going to take a big hit.
So, when the kid goes to hang out in the 'hood for awhile, the mother finds him, smacks him upside his head and drags his ghetto ass back to the kitchen table for a little math.
Sounds like a plan.
Posted by: jwest at October 29, 2015 09:04 AM (Zs4uk)
Frost gleans the morning
Endless Summer? Not so much.
Global Warming myth
Posted by: V the K at October 29, 2015 09:04 AM (O7MnT)
it was a bad night for them too
Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 29, 2015 09:05 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: steevy at October 29, 2015 09:05 AM (8HTq1)
I'm not a Rubio fan. I thought he did well last night. Jeez Jeb walk into right jabs much?
Cruz knocked it out of the park. I switched over to Fox after the debate. All of the talking heads had Rubio love juice dripping down their chins. Quite revolting. Rubio has been anointed by the GOPe
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 29, 2015 09:05 AM (+c55T)
Establishment types from the right seem to have chosen this as Rubio's coming out party, and crowned him the glorious winner. Rubio was solid but definitely seemed scripted. Bush's attack almost seemed like it was a set up, to turn the establishment choice mantle over to Rubio. Rubio at least did well countering Harwood's assault, but he'd join with Ryan and the RINO team to push through amnesty on day two or three.
Most of FOX try really hard to dump Trump, and even Megyn seems to get a visceral joy out of slamming him. Many of these attack are phony and misrepresent what Trump has said, which has been a major disappointment. But Trump himself is still learning to articulate some of his policy papers, that seem heavily borrowed from others like Kudlow.
Cruz should get a bump, but the establishment states that Rubio was the clear winner, case closed, for them. He was handed the "Prime Choice" award by a more unified RINO establishment, as I see it.
Posted by: Illiniwek at October 29, 2015 09:06 AM (1XT+t)
Bravo to the candidates who called out CNBC and MSM. Keep it up and don't let up.
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at October 29, 2015 09:06 AM (DlmoZ)
Dog named "Dog of the year" throws himself in front of bus to save owner's life:
http://tinyurl.com/q2are9h
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 09:06 AM (No/ki)
Jeb tried and went down like the Hindenburg
they refused to unfairly attack each other and went after the mods
Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 29, 2015 09:07 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 29, 2015 09:07 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at October 29, 2015 09:07 AM (DlmoZ)
The issue is a GOP that allows such ridiculously biased networks to host a debate.
Posted by: steevy
"Wait till they get a load of me...."
Feb. 26, 2016
Republican debate NBC/Telemundo/National Review
Location Houston, Texas
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 29, 2015 09:07 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: mustbequantum at October 29, 2015 09:08 AM (MIKMs)
This is so not fair. So. Not. Fair.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at October 29, 2015 09:08 AM (cxfi1)
Posted by: Jean at October 29, 2015 09:08 AM (ztOda)
Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 29, 2015 09:08 AM (zOTsN)
Sounds like a plan.
Posted by: jwest at October 29, 2015 09:04 AM (Zs4uk
No offense, but so do Unicorns and World Peace.
>>>Right now, a single welfare mother of 4 gets food stamps, subsidized housing, heating, and other stuff along with her kids getting an education at a public school that doesn't actually teach anything at $19,000 ea.
With my plan, the mother would probably home school the kids, getting $68,000
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I'm sure you would find a small minority of parents who could do what you are proposing. But the majority? Meh. I won't even get into the morals let alone the numbers.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 29, 2015 09:09 AM (+c55T)
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at October 29, 2015 09:09 AM (jRs7b)
Posted by: mindful webworker - better latte than nuffin at October 29, 2015 09:10 AM (/tG8l)
His chances (remote even before the debate) of being the nominee fell faster than a dress on prom night.
Monica Lewinsky couldn't have sucked more.
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at October 29, 2015 09:10 AM (DlmoZ)
Sooo, I guess I missed what sounds like a decent debate last night? Been luvin the sound bites. The best thing this morning was a little GIF of Cruz dressed up as a waiter holding a plate with an ass on it and the caption, "I believe this is yours."
Go Cruz!
#freshhell
#WASTF
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 29, 2015 09:10 AM (LUgeY)
Frost gleans the morning
Endless Summer? Not so much.
Global Warming myth
Posted by: V the K at October 29, 2015 09:04 AM (O7MnT)
Family compound buzzes
Bush smolders dully
Cuban sandwich rises
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 29, 2015 09:11 AM (Zu3d9)
Feb. 26, 2016
Republican debate NBC/Telemundo/National Review
Location Houston, Texas
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 29, 2015 09:07 AM (kdS6q)
this this this this this
last debate before Super Tuesday for all the marbles
arranged by GOPe TO FORCE AMNESTY
all the candidates should reject the premise and the set up
Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 29, 2015 09:11 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Baldy at October 29, 2015 09:11 AM (sEXjW)
Go Cruz!
#freshhell
#WASTF
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 29, 2015 09:10 AM (LUgeY)
Share it.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 29, 2015 09:11 AM (+c55T)
Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection
It's not like the guy argued a case before the US supreme court and won. Get real.
Oh waitaminute -- he has.
Posted by: se pa moron at October 29, 2015 09:12 AM (7v/r5)
Posted by: Marcel Marceau at October 29, 2015 09:12 AM (rbn4N)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 29, 2015 09:12 AM (No/ki)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 29, 2015 09:09 AM (+c55T)
If the mother didn't want to home school, there would be a dozen teachers trying to sign the kids up for their school.
And by "school" I mean just about anything. It could be a storefront on the same block that the kid lives. The school can have anywhere from 1 kid to 1000. It's whatever works.
Posted by: jwest at October 29, 2015 09:13 AM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: steevy at October 29, 2015 09:13 AM (8HTq1)
Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 29, 2015 09:14 AM (zOTsN)
Endless Summer? Not so much.
Global Warming myth
Algore says AGW is making people stupid.
I agree. If you believe in that hoax, you're an idiot.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 29, 2015 09:15 AM (LUgeY)
Mommy said he could be Pres'dint after George.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 29, 2015 09:15 AM (oVJmc)
all the candidates should reject the premise and the set up
Posted by: ThunderB,
Yeah but most are for it.
Posted by: dogfish at October 29, 2015 09:15 AM (0O2Lr)
By the way, howdja like Harwood's
characterization of the U.S. economy last night as the "strongest in the
world"? The guy must have the Kool-Aid shipped to him in 55 gallon
drums.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 29, 2015 09:02 AM (noWW6)
He knows what side of the bread is buttered, and he is probably aware that if he went of message he would be lucky to be running the advertising department at a crummy AM station if he slipped off message.
And Preeebus is serving two masters. Neither of them are you.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 29, 2015 09:15 AM (3pRHP)
My quick and dirty measure is the number of empty storefronts I see. And, because I live near the largest retail concentration in the country, it's probably not too far off.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 29, 2015 09:01 AM (Zu3d9)
Fiorina hit on that subject pretty hard last night.
The statistics seemed to go right over everybody's head. That included the moderators, the audience, and the other candidates on the stage.
Posted by: Lindsay Graham at October 29, 2015 09:15 AM (DofIg)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 29, 2015 09:15 AM (oVJmc)
And no amount of money can replace that fire.....
Look at Carson. His fire is evident, though quiet. I just wish his platform, as represented by his campaign website would get more specific and comprehensive.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 29, 2015 09:15 AM (Zu3d9)
I have no idea what you're talking about.Posted by: Reince Priebus, Genius at October 29, 2015 09:16 AM (cCEFD)
And by "school" I mean just about anything. It could be a storefront on the same block that the kid lives. The school can have anywhere from 1 kid to 1000. It's whatever works.
Posted by: jwest at October 29, 2015 09:13 AM (Zs4uk
I do enjoy your optimism. But google school choice/vouchers for the states of LA & WI.
Outlaw/ban teacher's unions you may have a fighting chance. As long as the unions exist and control the monopoly of public education, you aren't getting far.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 29, 2015 09:16 AM (+c55T)
Detroit has about 430,000 people now. If kids got a $17,000 voucher, what do you think the population of Detroit would be in two years?
People would be climbing over each other to buy property in Detroit, build houses, start businesses and get their kids educated.
Posted by: jwest at October 29, 2015 09:17 AM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
---
Never let a good tragedy go to waste.
*licks chops*
Posted by: Barack Obama at October 29, 2015 09:17 AM (jRs7b)
Wish, something, command, something something.
Here's the image, I think.
http://tinyurl.com/ohzf8pu
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 29, 2015 09:18 AM (LUgeY)
Cruz will be ignored for anything substantive he said and all will talk about the latest establishment candidate.
Cruz has been ignored for a long time. If you watch, he doesn't even show up on the poll numbers half the time -- somehow he is just elided from consideration.
I'm for Cruz of all the candidates and nothing has changed for me. Youngest kid likes Carson.
Posted by: mustbequantum at October 29, 2015 09:18 AM (MIKMs)
Posted by: se pa moron at October 29, 2015 09:18 AM (7v/r5)
People would be climbing over each other to buy property in Detroit, build houses, start businesses and get their kids educated.
Posted by: jwest at October 29, 2015 09:17 AM (Zs4uk
May I have a hit of whatever you are taking this morning? Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 29, 2015 09:19 AM (+c55T)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 29, 2015 09:16 AM (+c55T)
I'm not explaining the concept correctly.
Under the voucher plan there is no "teacher's union". Anyone can teach. There is no state interference except for a test administered by the state (via private agencies) each year.
Posted by: jwest at October 29, 2015 09:20 AM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Bigby's Fistful of Dice at October 29, 2015 09:20 AM (NF19W)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 29, 2015 09:20 AM (+c55T)
$68,000 total. She no longer is on welfare, she has to pay income taxes
and she knows that if the kids don't pass the test each year, her
income is going to take a big hit.
So, when the kid goes to hang out in the 'hood for awhile, the
mother finds him, smacks him upside his head and drags his ghetto ass
back to the kitchen table for a little math.
Sounds like a plan.
.
.
.
.One small thing missing with your plan, responsibility. Haven't seen it and most likely we wont see it unless the mom and the entire government signs off on her never getting another dime from any welfare program unless the kids hit 18 and graduate High School.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 29, 2015 09:20 AM (iONHu)
Posted by: Jean at October 29, 2015 09:20 AM (ztOda)
My Dad has liked Carson from the start, although he has not locked into him.
Posted by: Y-not at October 29, 2015 09:20 AM (t5zYU)
CNBC could have saved themselves and the Republican Party a lot of
money by hiring actual monkeys to fling their pooh at the candidates.
This was a disgrace....
Pick me! Pick me!
Posted by: Curious George at October 29, 2015 09:20 AM (DlmoZ)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner's zombie fappee at October 29, 2015 09:20 AM (jRs7b)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 29, 2015 09:19 AM (+c55T)
Wouldn't you move to Detroit to get an educational benefit like that for your kids?
Posted by: jwest at October 29, 2015 09:21 AM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Y-not at October 29, 2015 09:21 AM (t5zYU)
Posted by: Jean at October 29, 2015 09:22 AM (ztOda)
Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 29, 2015 09:23 AM (zOTsN)
Under the voucher plan there is no "teacher's union". Anyone can teach. There is no state interference except for a test administered by the state (via private agencies) each year.
Posted by: jwest at October 29, 2015 09:20 AM (Zs4uk
I know exactly what you mean. But, you can't just give out vouchers to every child with a teacher union present. Jindal has been sued by the Louisiana teachers unions. Scott Walker has been sued and recalled by the teachers unions.
I'm not saying school vouchers and school choice is wrong. I'm saying is you have a lot to overcome if state wide or city wide vouchers are ever to be implemented. Thats all.
Somehow I think we are in the same church, but different pews.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 29, 2015 09:23 AM (+c55T)
Posted by: Bigby's Fistful of Dice at October 29, 2015 09:20 AM (NF19W)
There wouldn't be any public schools to dump the kid in.
If the kid didn't pass the yearly test, the state would engage a private school for the kid.
Posted by: jwest at October 29, 2015 09:23 AM (Zs4uk)
letting it burn!
Certain AoSHQ commenters under watch.
Posted by: mindful webworker - playing with matches at October 29, 2015 09:24 AM (/tG8l)
Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 29, 2015 09:24 AM (zOTsN)
You just fucking failed to even lie well.
It's your party.
These are your debates.
Either you're willing to run them, or you're not.
I agree with the comment above; this was meant to knock out the ones who were not anointed, and remain chummy with the beltway crowd.
he fucked up again by trusting in MFMers to rise above the 7th grade level, which they refused to do.
The candidates were mostly smart enough to realize that they had a great, ugly target in front of them, dumber then them, more dishonest than them, without any pesky Senate rules to restrict them.
And away they went.
Posted by: Blue Hen at October 29, 2015 09:26 AM (326rv)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Unless they pay extra, right?
Posted by: Paladin at October 29, 2015 09:27 AM (E1aoU)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 29, 2015 09:19 AM (+c55T)
Wouldn't you move to Detroit to get an educational benefit like that for your kids?
Posted by: jwest at October 29, 2015 09:21 AM (Zs4uk)
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No, hell no.
I sent my kids to parochial school here in WI.
There is no way in hell I would ever move within the City Limits of Detroit
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 29, 2015 09:27 AM (+c55T)
I sent my kids to parochial school here in WI.
There is no way in hell I would ever move within the City Limits of Detroit
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 29, 2015 09:27 AM (+c55T)
If this plan was put in place, within 10 years you couldn't afford to live in Detroit.
The free market has a way of sorting things out. Property would continue to rise until an equilibrium was established with other areas without the vouchers. So, if families averaged 3 kids, a comparable area would have household income in the $105,000 range.
Posted by: jwest at October 29, 2015 09:31 AM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Illiniwek at October 29, 2015 09:06 AM (1XT+t)I still think Trump will implode at some point, that'll he'll have a 'Bitch, make me a sammich' moment with a female reporter or some such thing. Trump is his own worst enemy. Of course, Trump supporters would be unswayed by anything he says or does, no matter how outrageous or wrongheaded. That isn't true for those who are not Trump supporters. I think Dr. Carson will fade, too. His base consists largely of evangelicals, I think, but goes littlefarther.I'm a Fiorina supporter but don't thinkCarly has the campaign organization to pull it off. In the end, I think it'll come down to Cruz and Rubio: both are well-funded, both are strong retail politicians, and are both scary smart and secretly as cutthroat as it gets.Never undervalue ruthlessness in a candidate.Ruthlessness is Hillary's single greatest asset.
Posted by: Reince Priebus, Genius at October 29, 2015 09:31 AM (cCEFD)
Posted by: troyriser at October 29, 2015 09:32 AM (cCEFD)
With my plan, the mother would probably home school the kids, getting $68,000 total. She no longer is on welfare, she has to pay income taxes and she knows that if the kids don't pass the test each year, her income is going to take a big hit.
So, when the kid goes to hang out in the 'hood for awhile, the mother finds him, smacks him upside his head and drags his ghetto ass back to the kitchen table for a little math.
Sounds like a plan.
Posted by: jwest at October 29, 2015 09:04 AM (Zs4uk)
----------------------------
A plan so crazy, it just might work!
Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 29, 2015 09:35 AM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: Reince Priebus, Genius at October 29, 2015 09:31 AM (cCEFD)
--------------------
"Strong retail politicians", yes, just what America needs.
Hell I'm not even sure what that term means, but based on Rubio's history, I guess you are saying, "lying back stabbing scumbag."
Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 29, 2015 09:44 AM (LXJ1e)
Blah, blah, blah, debate this,, blah, blah, blah, debate that,,,
What difference, at this point, does it make?!/1/!?!!?1/1/1!?!
I've sooooooo got this... *hic*
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at October 29, 2015 09:48 AM (HSmrB)
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