Deal? Ryan Says He'll Delay "Reforms" of Motion-to-Vacate Rule; House Freedom Caucus Asks for Protection Against Attacks From Establishment Groups Like the Chamber of Congress

That last part is a disappointment to me. I don't like trading general substance for private personal protection. But, whatever. Politics makes whores of us all.

Allah says he sees horse-trades in the works here.

The horses seem to involve concessions to Ryan on making the motion-to-vacate harder to execute, in exchange, I guess, for reforms of House rules to give dissident members more of a voice.

The Wisconsin Republican, now the presumptive next speaker of the House, delivered the message to Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, the chairman of the Freedom Caucus, according to multiple sources familiar with the discussion. Possible changes to the so-called "motion to vacate" will now come as part of a larger discussion of reworking internal party and House rules. Should he become House speaker, Ryan will set a deadline by which the House Republican Conference will change chamber and party rules.

It has long been a complaint of the Freedom Caucus that the House under Boehner was far too dictatorial, with too much power centralized in the Speakership; dissident members could never get their amendments even voted on. I imagine the "reworking of internal party and House rules" involves some devolution of power out away from leadership.

Meanwhile, House conservatives are tired of being attacked by big-money Establishment groups like the Democrat front group the Chamber of Congress, and the Freedom Caucus pitched some kind of nonaggresion pact.

Hours before many of them threw their support behind Rep. Paul Ryan’s bid for speaker, House conservatives pushed him on one of their own proposals: to defend them from attacks by big-money establishment groups.
During a private meeting, the House Freedom Caucus -- which announced Wednesday evening it would support Ryan by a super majority, giving him enough votes to be speaker-- discussed a proposal that calls for the next speaker to step in when well-funded groups from the centrist or right-wing of the party spend money attacking sitting members of Congress.
Members of group said they had discussed the proposal -- along with other issues — with all candidates for speaker, but Ryan in particular, because of his emphasis on party unity. In theory, the proposal would protect not just the Freedom Caucus but all members.

The protection would run both ways -- the Speaker would be bound to come in and give hell to the Chamber of Commerce for its big-government establishment liberal agitations against Tea Party congressmen, but the Freedom Caucus would be agreeing that Ryan should also defuse Tea Party attacks on big-government establishment liberals.

Not sure I like that.

I suppose for pure political advantage -- for the 2016 election -- it's advantageous to call a truce.

But I'm not of a mind for a truce.

Posted by: Ace at 07:22 PM

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1 fuck ryan the only difference between him and weiner is accents.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2015 07:24 PM (vb33c)

2 Amen! No truce, not hostages! We need a hammer, not another nail.

Posted by: goon at October 22, 2015 07:25 PM (gy5kE)

3 was there a deal on weekends off? is he giving up any of his p90x time?

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 22, 2015 07:25 PM (vb33c)

4 I love how Ryan's big sell is a promise to wait until the next president to pass amnesty. Republicans are easy lays.

Posted by: mugiwara at October 22, 2015 07:26 PM (+SCot)

5 This explains a lot.

"Yeah we'll perform backflips --IF YOU PROMISE SOMETHING YOU CANT DELIVER!!"

"I so promise."

*gasp* "DEAL!!!"

Posted by: Chris Balsz at October 22, 2015 07:27 PM (4zXgv)

6 **talking to HFC**

I got a lot of experience with this sort of thing...

... don't think I'd be trusting a deal with these guys.

Posted by: Lando Calrissian at October 22, 2015 07:28 PM (lqmAz)

7 Like Ryan is going to turn $100M down from Chamber of Commerce.

Posted by: blaster at October 22, 2015 07:28 PM (2Ocf1)

8 I'm liking Rush's theory today that this was all just more kabuki theater and the deals for all this had been made previously. And now it's just time for the House of Representatives theater troupe to put their play on for the public and call it improv.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 22, 2015 07:28 PM (z/Ubi)

9 God, Jesus, help us, please. Politics is a perfect reason to want to wash yer' stinkin' hands every few minutes. It would be better to be a tribal slave in some hell-hole, almost, than to have to sit back so far from the center of the fire and watch these corksockers decide our fate. harrumph!

Posted by: goon at October 22, 2015 07:28 PM (gy5kE)

10 It would be nice if the GOPe was willing to cut deals with conservatives the way they cut deals with Democrats.

Posted by: Jake at October 22, 2015 07:29 PM (QJYP4)

11 @8 that theory requires a level of competence that I do not believe has been demonstrated.

Posted by: blaster at October 22, 2015 07:30 PM (2Ocf1)

12 Isn't it illegal for a nonprofit like the Chamber of Commerce to coordinate donations with a candidate like Ryan? Not that he'd actually try to deliver on such coordination, but, if he's honest, he's conspiring to violate campaign finance laws.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at October 22, 2015 07:30 PM (4zXgv)

13 I say we call a truce.

Posted by: Emperor Hirohito at October 22, 2015 07:30 PM (FkBIv)

14 Ace, typo in title. Chamber of Congress instead of Chamber of Commerce.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 22, 2015 07:31 PM (0NdlF)

15 You people just can't understand the difficulty of working 4 days a week and being away from your family, only getting to see them for more than 3 days at a time during a month long vacations we regularly take. It just such a burden.

Posted by: Paul Ryan at October 22, 2015 07:32 PM (z/Ubi)

16 what you need to know about paul ryan....he was on fox news sunday prior to the scotus ruling on obamacare...... wallace kept pressing him for details about what the gop's plan was .....he wouldn't answer.....because there was no plan and he knew one wouldn't be necessary....so paul ryan really is part of the problem in washington dc....... we are doomed.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at October 22, 2015 07:33 PM (0O7c5)

17 I always wished that I would come back as a stud pony, next time around the wheel, but now I realize that I should have been wishing for politician instead of pony. Learning is a long song.

Posted by: goon at October 22, 2015 07:34 PM (gy5kE)

18 No truce. Ryan can't possibly call off Chamber.
HFC should know that & what about NRCC? I'm not sure if I have letters all there. National republican congressional committee?

Posted by: Carol at October 22, 2015 07:34 PM (L8cs7)

19 You followed William Wallace--now follow me!

Posted by: Robert the Truce at October 22, 2015 07:34 PM (VAsIq)

20 No deal!

Posted by: Howie Mandell at October 22, 2015 07:35 PM (VAsIq)

21 These Reps should read Trump's Art of the Deal.

Posted by: @votermom at October 22, 2015 07:35 PM (cbfNE)

22 Newt!

Posted by: Guy who shouts Newt at October 22, 2015 07:36 PM (FohCt)

23 Shit just got deal!

Posted by: Will Smith and Martin Lawrence at October 22, 2015 07:36 PM (lqmAz)

24 We are going to trade a boner for a dork. Screwed we are.

I pretty sure Ryan would stonewall everything President Trump would try to do. That might be good or bad.

Posted by: freaked at October 22, 2015 07:36 PM (BO/km)

25 Ryan will win. He blew smoke up the HFC ass.

Lucy, Charlie Brown, football some assembly required

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at October 22, 2015 07:37 PM (VROg+)

26 Salamander!

Posted by: Guy who shouts Salamander at October 22, 2015 07:37 PM (VAsIq)

27 Paul Ryan. Warmly endorsed by John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Harry Reid, and Luis Gutierrez.

BARF. No thanks.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 22, 2015 07:37 PM (noWW6)

28
Paul Ryan and Luis Gutierrez are lovers and are expecting an amnesty anchor baby next spring.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 22, 2015 07:37 PM (ODxAs)

29 I'm liking Rush's theory today that this was all just more kabuki theater

Failure Theater

as performed by the Freedom Caucus.

But I totes believe folks who insist there are good people to be found among the Republican party.

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2015 07:38 PM (ZbV+0)

30 Salamander!

Posted by: Guy who shouts Salamander

What do you want?

Posted by: Bonzo Madrid at October 22, 2015 07:38 PM (VAsIq)

31 Hours before many of them threw their support behind Rep. Paul Ryan's bid for speaker, House conservatives pushed him on one of their own proposals: to defend them from attacks by big-money establishment groups.

LOL. Really.

The Freedom Carcass should just dissolve itself. What a friggin joke.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2015 07:38 PM (zc3Db)

32 So is Daniel Webster still planning on running?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at October 22, 2015 07:38 PM (09Lhy)

33 Don't forget his taking $ from Vets too!

Posted by: Carol at October 22, 2015 07:38 PM (L8cs7)

34 I remember when I swooned over his great abs and pretty eyes.

Now he's dead to me.

Seriously, a four day work week? I guess he's oblivious to what our constantly re-deployed troops are going through?

Fuck.Wit.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2015 07:38 PM (FsuaD)

35 PAUL RYAN IS ENGAGED IN WHORE TRADING?

Posted by: Al Sharpton at October 22, 2015 07:39 PM (AkOaV)

36 *takes a drink of water

for

far

too

long*

Posted by: Paul Ryan at October 22, 2015 07:39 PM (VAsIq)

37 You would think an endorsement from the slimeball Hairy Reid would put a stop to this foolishness but nooooo....

Posted by: freaked at October 22, 2015 07:39 PM (BO/km)

38 How special. They all get safe zones from trigger warnings.

Burn. It. Down.

Posted by: Bill's wet nurse at October 22, 2015 07:40 PM (pq97T)

39 PAUL RYAN IS ENGAGED IN WHORE TRADING?

Posted by: Al Sharpton

*adds Paul Ryan's number to speed dial*

Posted by: Bill Clinton at October 22, 2015 07:40 PM (VAsIq)

40 Ugh.

BOHICA

Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2015 07:40 PM (NOIQH)

41 Nothing like a hearty endorsement from the Searchlight Strangler.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2015 07:40 PM (FsuaD)

42 Truce? As a great man once said #WAR

Posted by: Bete says it is going to burn, why bother putting it off? at October 22, 2015 07:40 PM (Ojki1)

43 Paul Ryan. Who got taken to the cleaners during budget negotiations by... Senator Patty Murray. One of the dimmest bulbs in the chandelier.

Yeah, this'll end well.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 22, 2015 07:41 PM (noWW6)

44 No love for Robert the Truce?

*pouts*

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at October 22, 2015 07:41 PM (VAsIq)

45
I rolled Paul Ryan like a ten dollar Vegas whore looking for coke!

Posted by: Hairy the Reed at October 22, 2015 07:41 PM (OiFtZ)

46 Go long on Horchata and Curb Feeler Futures.

Posted by: Garrett at October 22, 2015 07:42 PM (hBtJy)

47 3 was there a deal on weekends off?

Up until recently, Boehner spent a majority of his weekends fundraising/spending time with the donor class. Ryan is objecting to placing fundraising over family time. I thought the general consensus of the pro-family party was that politicians are more grounded when they spend time with average people rather than the donor class.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 22, 2015 07:42 PM (YjDyJ)

48 >>Seriously, a four day work week? I guess he's oblivious to what our constantly re-deployed troops are going through? Fuck.Wit.

Ditto.

Can't work weekends in the midst of all the merde Obama created?
Courage!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2015 07:42 PM (NOIQH)

49 I rolled Paul Ryan like a ten dollar Vegas whore looking for coke!

Posted by: Hairy the Reed

In fact, I did them simultaneously! I love Nevada!

Posted by: Harry Reid, Respected Pedophile at October 22, 2015 07:42 PM (VAsIq)

50 Good god, Ace. It's crashing around us and here you are blogging away like we might even see tomorrow.

I need a volunteer. I cannot drink. I need someone to get blind drunk for me. It would be a nice touch if you could also curse Obastard and the Dems with every breath.

Hands?

Posted by: creeper at October 22, 2015 07:42 PM (Hh8cI)

51 Fuck Ryan to hell with a rusty barbed broomstick of death and ebola.

Posted by: Let This Shit Burn Already at October 22, 2015 07:42 PM (3YTT+)

52 http://tinyurl.com/p4jqhpl

Rush & donor class today.

Posted by: Carol at October 22, 2015 07:43 PM (L8cs7)

53 Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 22, 2015 07:42 PM (YjDyJ)

I wish I had guaranteed weekends off.

Posted by: Al Sharpton at October 22, 2015 07:43 PM (AkOaV)

54 Okay, okay, I won't betray you for 18 months. Deal?

Posted by: Paul Ryan at October 22, 2015 07:43 PM (VAsIq)

55
I like Paul Bunyan. Babe is pretty cool, too.

Posted by: wth at October 22, 2015 07:43 PM (wAQA5)

56 oops. /sock

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 22, 2015 07:44 PM (AkOaV)

57 Jeebus. My husband frequently works all day Saturday, and after church on Sunday.

Of course, he's a hated small business owner.

And OH JOY! The two of us are now paying $1,600/month for our awesome Obamacare. Yay!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2015 07:44 PM (FsuaD)

58

This is insane.

There is absolutely no upside here.

It's ALL BAD. Paul Ryan, who sucks as bad as Boehner, comes in with a clean slate?? Funk that shit. I'd rather Boehner stay and then get drummed out of Congress in 2016.

This way, that piece of shit Boehner is kingmaker??
FUCK THAT.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 22, 2015 07:45 PM (d6bvv)

59 Chamber of Communism you Meant?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at October 22, 2015 07:45 PM (xInes)

60 Creeper,
I'll have a glass of wine, maybe two, after I have dinner for you.

I've been swearing all day!

Posted by: Carol at October 22, 2015 07:45 PM (L8cs7)

61 Okay, okay, I won't betray you for 18 months. Deal?

Posted by: Paul Ryan

Make it 36 weeks and you've got a deal!

Posted by: Shrewd Freedom Caucus Negotiators at October 22, 2015 07:45 PM (VAsIq)

62
I swear it wasn't me who killed the whore while playing sex games, but it was Senator Hairy Reed who did the deed and Michael Corleone covered up the crime for future favors.

Posted by: Senator Pat Geary, D-NV at October 22, 2015 07:45 PM (OiFtZ)

63 I love watching transparency

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at October 22, 2015 07:45 PM (P4OkF)

64 An abundance of being transparent!

She's delusional.

Posted by: Fritz at October 22, 2015 07:45 PM (3tjn4)

65
I see no reason at all for me to come back to the Republican party. This bullshit move drives me further away.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 22, 2015 07:45 PM (d6bvv)

66 What the heck is the "Chamber of Congress"?

Posted by: Percy Gryce at October 22, 2015 07:46 PM (mAm+G)

67 Carol,

Good enough. Points for the profanity.

Posted by: creeper at October 22, 2015 07:46 PM (Hh8cI)

68 our election is by mail in ballot only....4 adults registered to my address.....zero ballots received.......they were mailed on the 7th of oct.......called to get replacement ballots sent....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at October 22, 2015 07:46 PM (0O7c5)

69 Many unemployed non-welfare Americans would love to work 4 days a week. Or seven days a week

Posted by: @votermom at October 22, 2015 07:46 PM (cbfNE)

70 53 I wish I had guaranteed weekends off.

The House rank-and-file already get weekends off unless they are "crisis legislating".

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 22, 2015 07:46 PM (YjDyJ)

71
House conservatives pushed him on one of their own proposals: to defend them from attacks by big-money establishment groups.

"Do it to her! Do it to Julia!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFYQq3Xi5uw

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 22, 2015 07:47 PM (kdS6q)

72 What the hell's an aluminum falcon?

Posted by: Emperor Palpatine at October 22, 2015 07:47 PM (VAsIq)

73 she can't answer a question.....because she thought her attorney did that already .....for her......#idiot

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at October 22, 2015 07:47 PM (0O7c5)

74 But I totes believe folks who insist there are good people to be found among the Republican party.

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2015 07:38 PM (ZbV+0)
Nice family you have there Congressman, be a shame if any of them were to take a walk in Fort Marcy Park!

Posted by: Hrothgar Democrat "Operative" at October 22, 2015 07:47 PM (ftVQq)

75 The first sign of a dictator is doing away with ways to remove you...

Posted by: ryukyu at October 22, 2015 07:47 PM (OrQ/Z)

76 Rush is wrong about Cantor, that was last year, not 2012.

Posted by: Carol at October 22, 2015 07:48 PM (L8cs7)

77 "Chamber of Congress", Ace?

Tell me about your mother...

Posted by: Dr. Sigmund Freud at October 22, 2015 07:49 PM (JIElb)

78 I'd like to amend the constitution and strip away that pesky term limits on the president thing...

Posted by: Richard Potato at October 22, 2015 07:49 PM (VAsIq)

79
>>Seriously, a four day work week?
...............

Oui, oui! We can take 6 weeks vacation with two three day weekends!!! Add in some sick leave and we see you next year!

Posted by: French bastards at October 22, 2015 07:49 PM (wAQA5)

80 The House rank-and-file already get weekends off unless they are "crisis legislating".

Oh, I see. Serial liar Paul Ryan's laziness is excusable because everyone else in DC does it.

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2015 07:49 PM (ZbV+0)

81 Now I'm thinking "Chamber of Congress" is probably accurate, alas.

Posted by: rickl at October 22, 2015 07:49 PM (sdi6R)

82 Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 22, 2015 07:46 PM (YjDyJ)

These kcufers don't actually work anyhow, so a four day work week is meaningless.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 22, 2015 07:49 PM (ftVQq)

83
I suppose for pure political advantage -- for the 2016 election -- it's advantageous to call a truce.

Ace, I dig you, bro, and I don't mean to get on your tits, but...

you said the exact same thing when Cruz finally gave up his obamacare fight in 2013. You said it was for the best and we're in better shape for the 2014 midterms.

The Republicans are getting worse by the day. I see no evidence they'll ever come back to the Right, or even Center-Right.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 22, 2015 07:49 PM (d6bvv)

84 but all that smarties at Free Beacon and Examiner have snarked that he didn't even want the job and wasn't ever going to be it so all the worry about his love of illegals was us just being dumb peasants

Posted by: Nora at October 22, 2015 07:50 PM (RGgMp)

85 68 our election is by mail in ballot only....4 adults registered to my address.....zero ballots received.......they were mailed on the 7th of oct.......called to get replacement ballots sent....
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at October 22, 2015 07:46 PM (0O7c5)

Obviously you're legal residents. Now if you were an illegal it would be different

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at October 22, 2015 07:50 PM (8PcKC)

86 All the more reason the Freedom Caucus should change their name, or at least their party affiliation, to the "Conservative" or "Constitution" party.

When the GOPe has to "work around" the Freedom Caucus, the handwriting has been on the wall for quite a while. I wonder if any of them could get elected with a "C" after their name?

Posted by: GBruno at October 22, 2015 07:50 PM (u49WF)

87 Query: How calm are the tits of MSM talking heads?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at October 22, 2015 07:50 PM (VAsIq)

88
47 3 was there a deal on weekends off?

Up until recently, Boehner spent a majority of his weekends fundraising/spending time with the donor class. Ryan is objecting to placing fundraising over family time. I thought the general consensus of the pro-family party was that politicians are more grounded when they spend time with average people rather than the donor class.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 22, 2015 07:42 PM (YjDyJ)

It means fuck all when your starting position is that you are more interested in representing foreigners breaking the law than the citizens of the nation.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 22, 2015 07:51 PM (z/Ubi)

89 Now if you were an illegal it would be different

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at October 22, 2015 07:50 PM (8PcKC)

Then it would be curbside service.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 22, 2015 07:51 PM (nL0sw)

90
According to its mission statement:

"The House Freedom Caucus gives a voice to countless Americans who feel that Washington does not represent them. We support open, accountable and limited government, the Constitution and the rule of law, and policies that promote the liberty, safety and prosperity of all Americans."

Nothing fits that better than a clandestine Nazi-Soviet non-aggression pact with the money-changers running the Republican Party.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 22, 2015 07:52 PM (kdS6q)

91 My day is complete, I saw Sheila Jackson Lee woot woot

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at October 22, 2015 07:52 PM (vL/IL)

92 Allah says he sees horse-trades in the works here.

Posted by: ace

And...this "Allah" talks to you? Do you *see* "Allah"?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at October 22, 2015 07:52 PM (VAsIq)

93 Well it seems that the "House Freedom Caucus" is as unprincipled as the rest of the GOPe.

Every member should be primaried.

We really have no representation in congress.

Posted by: Kreplach at October 22, 2015 07:53 PM (WVvzl)

94 My day is complete, I saw Sheila Jackson Lee woot woot

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

I guess every day sees the first time certain words are put in a certain order.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at October 22, 2015 07:53 PM (VAsIq)

95
What about the fact that Jason Chafetz and Daniel Webster were both treated like shit for the past 3 weeks??

Boehner was out there Ohhh no, where o where can we find a new speaker? We can't leave the post empty and no one at all can be found to replace me, oh dear!!

Meanwhile, Chafetz and Webster are like Yeah, Um, Right Here, Dood. We'll do it.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 22, 2015 07:53 PM (d6bvv)

96 Every member should be primaried.

We really have no representation in congress.

Posted by: Kreplach

*Dusts off "Pander Bear Party" recruiting video*

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at October 22, 2015 07:53 PM (VAsIq)

97 I now believe that the only solution is single term limits for every government employee at every level. By the second term, even the most honest person of integrity elected to office has begun to understand the ease with which they can dip into the public till and become wealthy!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 22, 2015 07:54 PM (ftVQq)

98 Today is National DinDu Day.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 22, 2015 07:54 PM (iQIUe)

99 This was nothing more than the "House Freedom Caucus" wanting to get their filthy snouts in the trough.

Bastards the whole lot of them.

Posted by: Kreplach at October 22, 2015 07:55 PM (WVvzl)

100 Creeper,
I'm glad you're happy.

Levin thinks Bush family plans to take down Cruz are going to backfire, along with R plans to take out Trump.

Posted by: Carol at October 22, 2015 07:55 PM (TTsxR)

101 FTSB - 'Hearing Protection Act' would remove tax on gun silencers

It's better than nothing but I would prefer that suppressors just be an accessory, like a bipod. I should be able to build one, just like I could build a bipod or scope mount.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 22, 2015 07:55 PM (rwI+c)

102 I now believe that the only solution is single term limits for every government employee at every level.

---

We agree!

Terms will now, of course, consist of 85 years.

Posted by: Political Class at October 22, 2015 07:55 PM (VAsIq)

103 Should be Chamber Pot of Congress.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 22, 2015 07:56 PM (FkBIv)

104 >>>But I'm not of a mind for a truce.

FREEEEDOM!!!

Posted by: Debbie Gibson at October 22, 2015 07:56 PM (VJ3W8)

105 @ 90 excellent observation

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at October 22, 2015 07:56 PM (qhUQl)

106 Ace and Allah seem to have a couple things in common.

IYKWIM

Posted by: GBruno at October 22, 2015 07:57 PM (u49WF)

107 ever noticed that just as conservatives are about to wedge in and turn over any applecarts there is suddenly calls from all quarters to end diviseness and promote unity and hey you know the people are sick of bickering etc?

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at October 22, 2015 07:57 PM (Cq0oW)

108 "We will gladly give you a hamburger today and hope to be paid on Tuesday."
Freedom Caucus

The good thing is the republicans will never have to wield power or govern the USA again after the illegals tip all elections to the fascist democrats. If you want to see America's future, look to California.

My advice: steal all the free bees you can. Put in as little into the community pot as possible. Beat the rush.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at October 22, 2015 07:57 PM (f+6Pd)

109 I voted for Mitt and Paul. That was a waste of gas, and I think I got the flu there. I won't be fooled again.

In answer to an earlier question: "How calm are the tits ...", I would have to defer that question to Paul "Amnesty First" Ryan, just so that I was sure that I wasn't crossing swords with the "party".

Posted by: goon at October 22, 2015 07:57 PM (gy5kE)

110 Should be Chamber Pot of Congress.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.

It's like the chamber pot accusing the out house of being full of shit.

Posted by: Trying out a new adage at October 22, 2015 07:57 PM (VAsIq)

111 So.....the caucus that is pure is cutting a deal?

Why am I reminded of a Chuchhill quote in e?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 22, 2015 07:58 PM (/HC6x)

112
BTW - the HFC organized at the end of January 2015, so it only took them less than 9 months to sell out.

Rather speedy, even for DC.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 22, 2015 07:58 PM (kdS6q)

113
Today is National DinDu Day.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 22, 2015 07:54 PM (iQIUe)
..................

Good because I DinDu much.
Except enjoy AoS commenters going off on "Hillz".

Posted by: wth at October 22, 2015 07:58 PM (wAQA5)

114 Today is National DinDu Day.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!

Celebrating the new Star Wars trailer.

Posted by: Mace DinDu at October 22, 2015 07:58 PM (FkBIv)

115 80 Oh, I see. Serial liar Paul Ryan's laziness is excusable because everyone else in DC does it.

So your argument is that spending weekends fundraising is more important than family time? Furthermore, last I checked, we all agreed that members of Congress should spend more times in their district, not less. They are also fully capable of working from home when necessary.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 22, 2015 07:59 PM (YjDyJ)

116 and conservatives always fall for that

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at October 22, 2015 07:59 PM (Cq0oW)

117 Take the deal.

The best part about treaties is never planning to honor them and breaking them FIRST.

Posted by: Phelps at October 22, 2015 07:59 PM (eQvE6)

118 I'm not ready to play nice. (Kills self over lame Dixie Chicks reference) (Doesn't really kill self)

Posted by: osoloco at October 22, 2015 08:00 PM (9kGho)

119
ever noticed that just as conservatives are about to wedge in and turn over any applecarts there is suddenly calls from all quarters to end diviseness and promote unity and hey you know the people are sick of bickering etc?

The most common phrase you hear from these minions is: the American people just want Congress to do its job and get things done for the economy and national security.

Just like how hillary clinton today solemnly and righteously advised the committee to do right by the American people.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 22, 2015 08:00 PM (d6bvv)

120 I was pretty much undecided in the last election. It came down to the vice-president debates. When I saw how masterfully Joe Biden handled the upstart I knew my daughter and I would be safe. After Joe swiped his ballsak across Paul de la Ryans face she asked, 'Why are the republicans doing this to the country? '

Posted by: low information voter at October 22, 2015 08:00 PM (sI4OA)

121 No love for Robert the Truce?

No, it's great. I'm picturing Boehner as the leprous father.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 22, 2015 08:00 PM (rwI+c)

122 My advice: steal all the free bees you can.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican

And make sure you have an epi pen!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at October 22, 2015 08:00 PM (VAsIq)

123 her explanation of emails "doesn't smell right"

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at October 22, 2015 08:00 PM (0O7c5)

124

Yeah, hillary clinton was all like how does this serve the American people today.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 22, 2015 08:01 PM (d6bvv)

125 This seems like a great deal to us.

Posted by: Iran at October 22, 2015 08:01 PM (lqmAz)

126 Terms will now, of course, consist of 85 years.

Posted by: Political Class at October 22, 2015 07:55 PM (VAsIq)
I rest my case!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 22, 2015 08:01 PM (ftVQq)

127 President Hillary
Senate Leader Chuck U. Schumer
Speaker of the House Ryan

Wtf can go wrong?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at October 22, 2015 08:01 PM (+oRxW)

128 all they really need is this one last big push imho

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at October 22, 2015 08:02 PM (Cq0oW)

129 The best part about treaties is never planning to honor them and breaking them FIRST.
Posted by: Phelps

You betcha, Comrade.

Posted by: USSR at October 22, 2015 08:02 PM (FkBIv)

130
Not only am I with Donald Trump, I might even volunteer for his campaign.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 22, 2015 08:03 PM (d6bvv)

131 Jane,
Go to Mark Levin Show website & yesterday's Daily Recap. He's got clips of Ryan in 2012 saying they can repeal 85% of TFGCare.
CoC wants it, though!

Posted by: Carol at October 22, 2015 08:03 PM (TTsxR)

132 The best part about treaties is never planning to honor them and breaking them FIRST.
Posted by: Phelps

Yeah, it's pretty great. People get PISSED when they realize they're about to die, haha.

Posted by: Pres'nt Obama at October 22, 2015 08:03 PM (VAsIq)

133
Even Glenn Beck today admitted that it is the Republicans' own fault that Donald Trump is so popular.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 22, 2015 08:04 PM (d6bvv)

134 "We really have no representation in congress."

Words to live by.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 22, 2015 08:04 PM (u5gzz)

135 Not only am I with Donald Trump, I might even volunteer for his campaign.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 22, 2015 08:03 PM (d6bvv)

Not only am I now with Donald Trump, I will volunteer for his campaign.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 22, 2015 08:05 PM (ftVQq)

136
"I don't like trading general substance for private personal protection."

There's a good reason you don't like it, ace. Because likemany other hopelessly outnumbered citizens who understand and care about substance, and not the theatrical/tribal/pro wrestling features, you want results. You don't care about the players, you want them to win the game for the country. For its safety, prosperity, honor, integrity, and future.

If the wacko-bird extremists can't get and stay elected, then their constituents have joined the rest in trashing the country.

Most here have played no part in trashing the country. But we suffer along with the rest (more, sometimes - we also rarely have been rent-seeking or benefitting personally and improperly from it).

Posted by: rhomboid at October 22, 2015 08:05 PM (QDnY+)

137 I've got to go.
Maybe I'll be back later.

Creeper,
I won't forget!

Posted by: Carol at October 22, 2015 08:06 PM (TTsxR)

138 Who cares about negotiating by exchanging *tactical* concessions?

He has a shitty RINO ideology, and whatever power he has, he will use it for ill. F*ck you, no thanks.

Just go off and enjoy yourself like you do best: dress yourself up in leather fetishwear and ball gag, and let Uncle Joe chain you to the bed and whip you until you bleed.

FREEEEDOM!!!!!!

Posted by: Debbie Gibson at October 22, 2015 08:06 PM (VJ3W8)

139
It bears repeating:

For years I, and most of us here, thought the Republicans were hapless and dumb and gutless.
But I now know the Republicans are just really bad people.

I'm not joking around. The Republicans are as bad as the Democrats.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 22, 2015 08:08 PM (d6bvv)

140 131
Jane,

Go to Mark Levin Show website yesterday's Daily Recap. He's
got clips of Ryan in 2012 saying they can repeal 85% of TFGCare.

CoC wants it, though!

Posted by: Carol at October 22, 2015 08:03 PM (TTsxR)

Dammit. I went to the ER over a month ago (no previous health problems, no meds, nothing) and the bill was a little over $1,000. After Obama"care" our bill is over $900.

The fucking hell? And the two of us are forced to pay $1,600/month?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2015 08:08 PM (FsuaD)

141 131 Jane, Go to Mark Levin Show website yesterday's Daily Recap. He's got clips of Ryan in 2012 saying they can repeal 85% of TFGCare.

CoC wants it, though!

A reconciliation package has been working its way through the House, but passage currently looks unlikely due to bickering between the House and the Senate. They may be forced to change it.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 22, 2015 08:09 PM (YjDyJ)

142 Yay, Huma is there for vaginal support

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at October 22, 2015 08:10 PM (7uC+4)

143 You gotta love how proudly Hillary proclaimed that of course she never saw one of the 600 or so requests for more security from her embassy in a country in the midst of a civil war, the origin of which she takes some credit for no less. That's some Presidential leadership right there.

Posted by: mugiwara at October 22, 2015 08:10 PM (+SCot)

144 Free dumb. Free to good home. Please somebody take our dumb. We're just giving it away.

Posted by: the House FreeDumb Caucus at October 22, 2015 08:10 PM (lqmAz)

145 kinda struggled when she talked about that night.....struggled to find a tear....but alas....none came

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at October 22, 2015 08:10 PM (0O7c5)

146 My armor is contempt
My shield is disgust
My sword is hatred

In the name of the Constitution and Freedom
Let none of these pricks survive.

*metaphorically and politically of course.

Posted by: Kreplach at October 22, 2015 08:11 PM (WVvzl)

147
btw, what joke biden said yesterday at the White House...

Biden listed off the whole litany of progressive goals and vowed not to be silent on any of them. Have you ever heard a Republican speak so boldly about Conservative ideals and principles and vow to advance them?

Not since Reagan, eh?

What do the Republicans stand for today?

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 22, 2015 08:11 PM (d6bvv)

148 I see the Orc is yammering again in defense of his WHITE mistress.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2015 08:11 PM (FsuaD)

149 "The Republicans are as bad as the Democrats."

More words to live by.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 22, 2015 08:12 PM (u5gzz)

150 That display by Rep. Cummings was absolutely embarrassing. You would think Hillary is the victim here.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 22, 2015 08:12 PM (YjDyJ)

151 149
"The Republicans are as bad as the Democrats."

More words to live by.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 22, 2015 08:12 PM (u5gzz)
yep

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at October 22, 2015 08:12 PM (0O7c5)

152 My day is complete, I saw Sheila Jackson Lee woot woot

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
---
Is woot woot a verb or an interjection in that sentence. If the former, what did she eat for lunch?

Posted by: Debbie Gibson at October 22, 2015 08:12 PM (VJ3W8)

153 I yearn for a fierce comeback by War Hair.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2015 08:13 PM (FsuaD)

154 Tears. Tears... Come on damn it. This could be my last chance.

Posted by: Cankles' Twisted Black Soul at October 22, 2015 08:13 PM (lqmAz)

155 154
Tears. Tears... Come on damn it. This could be my last chance.

Posted by: Cankles' Twisted Black Soul at October 22, 2015 08:13 PM (lqmAz)

nope.....she's impotent when it comes to generating a tear....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at October 22, 2015 08:14 PM (0O7c5)

156 That Paul Ryan's a cutie-patootie. Nobody can disagree with that.

Posted by: Denny Hastert at October 22, 2015 08:14 PM (u5gzz)

157 I am of two minds.

I am preparing for civil war, and I am also buying myself a burial plot.

Note the lack of confidence in a sudden political blowjobs & steak biscuits season coming up.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at October 22, 2015 08:15 PM (RXFQJ)

158
That display by Rep. Cummings was absolutely embarrassing. You would think Hillary is the victim here.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 22, 2015 08:12 PM (YjDyJ)
And in Maryland, he is the presumptive heir to Mikulski's Senate seat!

Sooo glad I got out of Maryland years ago!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 22, 2015 08:16 PM (ftVQq)

159 "Congresswoman Martha Roby asked Clinton if she was at home by herself on the night of the Benghazi attack. Clinton said yes and then just laughed a little incredulously at the question."

Video: http://bit.ly/1LJgJgv

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 22, 2015 08:16 PM (YjDyJ)

160 I believe she is perjuring herself at this very moment

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at October 22, 2015 08:16 PM (gmP76)

161 This is a Hudna but for a lot less than 10 years.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 22, 2015 08:17 PM (FN4bW)

162 (((Jane)))

We have "good" insurance and hubby had to pay approx $900 in lab & doctor fees just to get his thyroid scanned and biopsied.
Then. they came back inconclusive and doc sent him to a diff hodpital to do the whole thing over after 3 months. Dunno how much thst will be. And I racked up around $600 at the start of the year getting iron infusions in an outpatient setting.
Still, thankful that we are healthy. (knock on wood)

Posted by: @votermom at October 22, 2015 08:17 PM (cbfNE)

163 158 )And in Maryland, he is the presumptive heir to Mikulski's Senate seat!

Why am I not surprised?

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 22, 2015 08:17 PM (YjDyJ)

164 Hillary dint'knownuthin'.

What a pathetic excuse for a human being. She should be sent to Benghazi, along with Huma, Susan Rice, and the other traitorous scumbags to live in a compound with Ambassador Steven's level of security.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2015 08:17 PM (FsuaD)

165 I can't wait til Stevens emails are released

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at October 22, 2015 08:18 PM (pahrJ)

166 I believe she is perjuring herself at this very moment

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at October 22, 2015 08:16 PM (gmP76)
Well, her lips are moving so...

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 22, 2015 08:18 PM (ftVQq)

167 nood

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 22, 2015 08:19 PM (ftVQq)

168 Morons and 'ettes, we are looking at our next POTUS. And sadly, our next CiC.

I fucking give up.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2015 08:20 PM (FsuaD)

169 167
nood

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 22, 2015 08:19 PM (ftVQq)

Pass

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2015 08:21 PM (FsuaD)

170 Up until recently, Boehner spent a majority of his weekends fundraising/spending time with the donor class. Ryan is objecting to placing fundraising over family time. I thought the general consensus of the pro-family party was that politicians are more grounded when they spend time with average people rather than the donor class.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 22, 2015 07:42 PM (YjDyJ)

There's nothing goo dot be said of hanging out with the donor lowlifes but this notion that one goes to Congress and then has to put the nation's business on hold while he changes diapers is ridiculous. There are jobs that require more than a full-time commitment and if someone can't make that commitment then he has no place in the job. Congress critters and especially leadership should be working 80 hour weeks, at the very least. Time for family? After he leaves office.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2015 08:21 PM (zc3Db)

171 Jane,
I tried to respond but had Red Error 500 several times.

Posted by: Carol at October 22, 2015 08:22 PM (TTsxR)

172 kinda struggled when she talked about that night.....struggled to find a tear....but alas....none came

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at October 22, 2015 08:10 PM (0O7c5)

She did manage to squeeze out a fart. Does that count for anything?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 22, 2015 08:23 PM (zc3Db)

173 Re Ryan, my dad served in the Air Force for over 20 years. He lived a year in Europe before we could join him. He spent weeks away from us, on missions after we joined him.

Why the hell does Ryan think he's so "special"? Move your damned family to DC, if you're so "concerned." If moving to strange territory is good enough for our military, it's good enough for your damned ass.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2015 08:25 PM (FsuaD)

174 Here's the new Boss, same as the old Boss. (but without the tears?)

This is a scam. A flip doodle look over here while we diddle dee dee over here and voila'!

This is nothing more than more Kabuki without the samisen being plucked in the background.

Here's some to go along with reading about the BS they're going to cram down our throats. Just pretend they're in Kimonos and the weird hairdos. http://tinyurl.com/qh4sq4w

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 22, 2015 08:26 PM (Xo1Rt)

175 Um. All yous out there playing by the rules? Obeying the law? Paying your taxes? Playing it straight? Telling your kids to obey authority?

SUCKAS!!!!!!!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 22, 2015 08:31 PM (Xo1Rt)

176 Damn. Thought I got willowed for a second there.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 22, 2015 08:32 PM (Xo1Rt)

177 Still here

Posted by: @votermom at October 22, 2015 08:33 PM (cbfNE)

178 Everybody must've taken an adult beverage break.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 22, 2015 08:33 PM (Xo1Rt)

179 170 There's nothing goo dot be said of hanging out with the donor lowlifes but this notion that one goes to Congress and then has to put the nation's business on hold while he changes diapers is ridiculous...

His primary objection revolves around weekend fundraisers and the traveling involved with that those. This idea that he meant he was going to completely take weekends off originated from liberal blogs and websites. Other members have agreed to help with the fundraising issue, so I fail to understand why people continue to complain.

Rep. Paul Ryan has consented to be speaker of the House, but on several conditions. One is that fundraising won't trump family.- http://bit.ly/1PExkrJ

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 22, 2015 08:34 PM (YjDyJ)

180 Must be doubles.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 22, 2015 08:34 PM (Xo1Rt)

181 Why, why would we want an amnesty shill ex V.P. loser and Budget that screwed everybody but the folks with connections?

Someone 'splain that to me?

He's WORSE IMO than Boehner. At least with Boehner we know which direction the boning will come from.

Ryan will sneak around and leap out from a totally unexpected direction.

Why would anyone want him there?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 22, 2015 08:37 PM (Xo1Rt)

182 At this rate, they might at well put Rep. Cummings in the witness chair. He obviously spent a great deal of time with his mirror over the past twenty-four hours.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 22, 2015 08:37 PM (YjDyJ)

183 No, they are on the new thread, which is non-political.

Posted by: @votermom at October 22, 2015 08:37 PM (cbfNE)

184 I just checked out the new thread. No thanks. Unless you love discussing pricey apps and toys.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2015 08:37 PM (FsuaD)

185 I beat Lance Armstrong in a tour de France once, and I wasn't even using steroids!

Posted by: Paul Ryan at October 22, 2015 08:38 PM (VJ3W8)

186 F*ck them sideways. I am voting against my GOPe incumbent Senator and against my GOPe freshman Rep. Both Suck, and the GOPe has to die. I intend to vote against them both (that is, I intend to vote for their opponents) in both the Primary and, should they survive that, against them again in the General.

And Speaker Eddie Munster? f&c you too

Posted by: anti-socialist at October 22, 2015 08:44 PM (o9lmn)

187 The reason why I think members of Congress should spend weekends in their districts is because interacting with average people keeps - or at least should keep- you grounded. It is not good for anyone to spend a great deal of time having their ego stroked in exchange for the promise of a donation. I witnessed one such instance with a conservative member of Congress and was absolutely disgusted by the entire affair.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 22, 2015 08:47 PM (YjDyJ)

188 Don't these fuckwads realize that if we hate the media picking the President of the US, we are going to hate the media picking the leader of our OWN FUCKING PARTY even worse?

I am in the mood to lead a mob to DC and string up every fucking Republican by the neck, and use their corpses soaked in gasoline to burn down the WAPO and NPR buildings. Jesus H. Christ!!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 22, 2015 08:59 PM (DPvCq)

189 Paul Ryan is proof that spending time at "home" would not prevent them from becoming corrupt scumbags interested in only appeasing their money men and screw the people that are actually supposed to represent.

Posted by: buzzion at October 22, 2015 09:00 PM (z/Ubi)

190 I am old enough to remember when Gov. Perry's idea of a part-time Congress was widely praised by conservatives.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 22, 2015 09:06 PM (YjDyJ)

191
190 I am old enough to remember when Gov. Perry's idea of a part-time Congress was widely praised by conservatives.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 22, 2015 09:06 PM (YjDyJ)

Paul Ryan taking his 3 day weekend every week to go home is not part time congress. That's a load of BS and you should feel shame for trying to pull that.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 22, 2015 09:47 PM (z/Ubi)

192 191 190 Paul Ryan taking his 3 day weekend every week to go home is not part time congress. That's a load of BS and you should feel shame for trying to pull that.

That was obviously not my point. The fact of the matter is that the House schedule has followed a similar pattern for some years yet some individuals on both ends of the ideological spectrum- particularly liberals- are suddenly objecting. Frankly, considering that we are supposed to be the pro-family movement, I am having trouble understanding why it is a problem that a father feels his duty to his family comes before politics. Again, the complaint is that the modern Speaker must spend more time than ever traveling to raise money but other members have said they are willing to share the burden, so why the fuss? As someone whose dad traveled a great deal during their formative years (and still does), I understand some feel the move is tone-deaf, but you cannot compare being, say, being a truck driver to being a member of Congress.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 22, 2015 10:12 PM (YjDyJ)

193 What a load.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 22, 2015 10:22 PM (z/Ubi)

194 It's a little insidery, but this is a good deal.

The Chamber of Commerce doesn't need to be the Chamber of Corporatism. They can fight overregulation without cajoling subsidies. And both they and the Freedom Caucus need to be focused on the real threats to the country's freedom and prosperity.

Posted by: TallDave at October 22, 2015 10:53 PM (74ZYB)

195 Paul Ryan is the American Angela Merkel, hell bent on sustaining massive illegal immigration when the popular demand across the his entire party's electorate is for legal immigration only. Ryan represents only the donor class that is at war with the 99% of what they claim is their party. He is every bit as bad as Boehner, maybe worse. That he is even being considered is disgusting.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at October 23, 2015 02:34 AM (kTTUz)

196 But I'm not of a mind for a truce.

Posted by: Ace at 07:22 PM

when 1 side keeps compromising, why would the other side stop demanding?

Posted by: scruff at October 23, 2015 09:12 AM (H2YDS)

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