Overnight Open Thread (9-22-2015)

Quote of the Day I

"If you disagree with one, you're not just wrong, you're not just unenlightened - you're immoral, you're sinful, and you're deserving of punishment in the here and now," he said. "Not in the afterlife - there is none of that - in the here and now."

-- Jack Cashill on the Neo-Puritans

Quote of the Day II

Ahmed has since been invited to bring his briefcase to the White House to meet President Obama. Oddly enough, the Secret Service would never in a million years allow a similar device anywhere near the President of the United States if it weren't pre-cleared; and for good reason.

-- Benny Huang

Quote of the Day III

I just think it's funny how so many people will cheer and quote this Pope on the climate and economics, but ignore the Church's words on issues like abortion.

-- Betsy of Betsy's Page

Quote of the Day IV

Is this something that resonates in England? - Because I'm pretty sure that every person reading this has been to a party where drugs 'may' have been present. [air quotes] "May."

-- Moe Lane

Brian Williams is Back And You'll Never Guess What Happened To Him While He Was Off The Air!

williamsstory23

Then: No Blood For Oil. Now: NY Times Cohosts 'Oil and Money' Conference in Iran.

Obama and Biden Were Running Late for the Pope, So They Made His Plane Do Loops in the Air

popeplaneloop

On Donald Trump and Guns

Given his past positions I don't really believe that Trump has suddenly become a second amendment absolutist. On the other hand according to this article his sons Donald and Eric are way into hunting and shooting and seem to have some influence over his views so he's probably not going to screw gun owners over either.

And by all accounts his children are smart, hard working, decent people who seem to have avoided the usual pitfalls of rich kids. Further proof that the best decision Trump ever made was to marry Ivana and let her raise their children.

So now you're probably wondering how the sons of Donald Trump Sr., who grew up in Manhattan, became hunters anyway? Were they indeed just rich kids after a bloody thrill?

Donald Trump Sr., doesn't hunt and, according to Donald Jr., "really doesn't understand why Eric and I hunt. However, he is open minded and so always allowed us to go hunting."

Their grandfather actually introduced them to hunting, fishing and shooting. "Our maternal grandfather was Czechoslovakian. When we were young he would have us to his place in Czechoslavakia for a month or more during summers," says Donald Jr. "He loved to hunt and fish and taught us how."

Their grandfather died when Donald Jr. was just 12 years old, but he "got us started right," says Donald Jr., who next found teachers in his boarding school-The Hill School in Pottstown, Pa.-who liked to hunt upland birds and more. Later, when he attended the University of Pennsylvania, he'd jump in a car every fall weekend to drive to his parent's place in upstate New York where he'd hunt with a bow for deer.

Hunting was actually essential to Trump Jr.'s moral development as a conservationist.

"Anyone who thinks hunters are just 'bloodthirsty morons' hasn't looked into hunting," says Donald Jr. "If you wait through long, cold hours in the November woods with a bow in your hands hoping a buck will show or if you spend days walking in the African bush trailing Cape buffalo while listening to lions roar, you're sure to learn hunting isn't about killing. Nature actually humbles you. Hunting forces a person to endure, to master themselves, even to truly get to know the wild environment. Actually, along the way, hunting and fishing makes you fall in love with the natural world. This is why hunters so often give back by contributing to conservation."

..."Look," says Donald Jr., "I live and work in Manhattan. I get that many people don't get hunting. I've been friends with people here for 15 years before finding out they're also hunters, as those who do hunt often keep it to themselves. But, you know, when I was growing up and other people I knew were getting into trouble, I was somewhere in a deer stand or going to bed early so I could be up before dawn to hunt turkeys. My love of the outdoors kept me solid."

trumpsonshunt

Portrait of a Clinton Donor

The douchbaggery is strong in this one.

Batali, who wears orange Crocs and has donated as much as $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation, once compared Wall Street bankers to Hitler and Stalin. He was also accused of stealing tips from his restaurant employees, a charge which resulted in a $5.25 million legal settlement. This helped Batali earn a spot on this definitive list of "The 10 Douchiest Moments in Celebrity Chef History."

Chelsea Clinton has gushed that "It's not hyperbole to say I could not imagine my life in New York or really my life in general without Mario." In Batali's defense, he has never been imprisoned, unlike many other Clinton associates. But judging by this photo, he should be.

batali-food-wine-mag-chefs-in-residence11

So You Think You're Smarter Than a CIA Agent

From the weight of a dead ox to superforecasters.

Feminist Icon Criticizes Rape Culture Activists

In 1975 Susan Brownmiller wrote the book Against Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape.

I was wondering if you have been following the discussions of rape activism on college campuses.

Yes, very closely. In the 1970s we had an extraordinary movement against sexual assault in this country and changed the laws. They [the campus activists] don't seem to know that. They think they are the first people to discover rape, and the problem of consent, and they are not.

They have been tremendously influenced by the idea that "You can drink as much as you want because you are the equal of a guy," and it is not true. They don't accept the fact there are predators out there, and that all women have to take special precautions. They think they can drink as much as men, which is crazy because they can't drink as much as men. I find the position "Don't blame us, we're survivors" to be appalling.

Also, they [college women] are not the chief targets of rapists. Young women and all women in housing projects and ghettos are still in far greater danger than college girls.

Nassau County, NY Is So Anti-Gun That District Attorneys Are Banned From Even Owning Personal Handguns

So This Arrived At My Doorstep Last Thursday

After a lot of dithering I finally got off my butt and ordered an M1 rifle from the CMP. I got all my paperwork together and mailed it off on a Wednesday and seven days later FedEx delivered this little beaut to my door. Total cost: $630 which included shipping and a nice hard plastic case.

I ordered a rack grade M1 which is the lowest grade they offer but I'm totally pleased with what I got. The parkerized finish is almost 100% and the wood is in good condition with barely visible cartouches. This particular rifle was born at Springfield Armory in April 1945 but like most M1s has been refurbished at least once over its lifetime so many of its parts are a mix of WWII-era replacements and the barrel is from 1951. According to the tag its throat erosion is 3 and muzzle wear is 2 which are well within spec so it should be a good shooter.

The 1920s College Kids and the Fur "Pimp Coat" Craze

racooncollege

Science: It Turns Out That Chimps Love Horror Movies Too

halloween7

Man Buried Alive Under New Road

Now his spirit guards the road. And the local liquor store.

The Yahoo group is for closers only.

Teh Tweet!

Tonight's post brought to you by no carpet munching:

Indian_airport_carpet-450x600

Notice: Posted by el permision de AceCorp SA de CV. You should send some money to Ace.</subliminal>

Posted by: Maetenloch at 11:08 PM




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1 first

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 22, 2015 11:09 PM (AkOaV)

2 crazy

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 22, 2015 11:09 PM (AkOaV)

3 I called for the ONT and it hath arriveth

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 22, 2015 11:09 PM (AkOaV)

4 No way!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 22, 2015 11:09 PM (TVzKw)

5 A Fundamental Right Affirmed

The Utah Supreme Court ruled that the right of an employee to defend themself at work is a fundamental right

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=9986

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 22, 2015 11:09 PM (vBeA5)

6 and now for the content

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 22, 2015 11:10 PM (AkOaV)

7 Howdy...

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 22, 2015 11:11 PM (RtoDO)

8 Thanks Maet getting ready to pass out

Woot woot ONT

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 22, 2015 11:11 PM (3cgLL)

9 Negative Paste Writer, that platen is foul.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2015 11:11 PM (3pRHP)

10 Feds Building Biometric Database on All Citizens...
_Drudge

Posted by: Bert at September 22, 2015 11:11 PM (p/8Bt)

11 If there was a ChemJeff summer chemistry class, I'd take all of my time off to attend.

Posted by: Vendette at September 22, 2015 11:12 PM (pvjJj)

12 Copied over from last thread:

Well, well, well...I thought the timing was too fast on this:



Last night, Irving Texas Mayor Beth Van Duyne revealed that the family of Ahmed Mohammed has repeatedly refused to meet with city officials, refused to released records exonerating police conduct, and that President Obama had tweeted about the case even before pictures of the so-called "clock" were publicly available.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2015 11:12 PM (NOIQH)

13 "Well, one for me... I didn't want to be greedy..."

Carried over.

Apologies. I misunderstood.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 22, 2015 11:13 PM (RtoDO)

14 Tonight's post brought to you by no carpet munching:

ಠ_ಠ

Posted by: Buffalo Gals at September 22, 2015 11:14 PM (vBeA5)

15 Copied over from last thread:

I hate ticks!

Posted by: mindful webworker hates ticks at September 22, 2015 11:14 PM (HdZcn)

16 TV show review I posted on the last thread; The Bastard Executioner is a over wrought, post modern, Kurt Sutter drivel. SoA lost me somewhere in season 3. Ole sicko Kurt just lost me at ep#2 on his latest. Probably should have realized it last week but thought I'd give it one more shot. Should have watched baseball.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2015 11:15 PM (NGd+i)

17 Imagining Biden mooning the Pope through the windows of the Pope's quarters.

Imagining Biden dodging SS bullets while he laughs like a little kid, running back to his quarters.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 22, 2015 11:16 PM (FsuaD)

18 So should I buy an M1 from CMP? I've been flirting with the idea, but they sort of are about to run out, no?

Posted by: mynewhandle at September 22, 2015 11:16 PM (AkOaV)

19 Okay, we KNOW Hillary's State Department didn't approve that translation.

Posted by: t-bird at September 22, 2015 11:17 PM (FcR7P)

20 So....Planet of the Apes is no far off from what might happen if apes got a leg up on us?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2015 11:17 PM (NOIQH)

21 The "News" is manufactured.

Curb your enthusiasm.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at September 22, 2015 11:17 PM (1ijHg)

22 Hey Buddy! Quit advertising CMP. I haven't got 'mine' yet!

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2015 11:17 PM (NaeCR)

23 Part of me hopes the sleeping meds kick in before Trump appears on Colbert.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 22, 2015 11:17 PM (kqGWM)

24 So this resonates with you, does it?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 22, 2015 11:18 PM (JmGFJ)

25 "So should I buy an M1 from CMP? I've been flirting with the idea, but they sort of are about to run out, no?"


What are they up to now?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 22, 2015 11:18 PM (RtoDO)

26 "Obama and Biden Were Running Late for the Pope, So They Made His Plane Do Loops in the Air.."
--------------

Not reported, but as a bred/born Tarheel I must reveal this. The circling occurred over Tick Bite, NC. I am not making this up.

Soon to be famous...but not as famous as Lizard Lick, or French Broad.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2015 11:18 PM (9mTYi)

27 Carpet eating prohibited, but go fuck a minor child,

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 22, 2015 11:18 PM (3cgLL)

28 My God, it's full of content!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 22, 2015 11:18 PM (4ErVI)

29 Re: the Pope meeting Obama and Biden--isn't visiting the drooling and the imbecilic part of his pastoral responsibility?

Posted by: Northernlurker, feeling grumpy today at September 22, 2015 11:19 PM (4rzL1)

30 I'm not sure what to think about Trump on most issues. He's saying what I want to hear on guns, immigration, Iran and abortion, to a lesser extent. I know there's a lot he hasn't said, but I know most of the other candidates will bow to the establishment, which is not what I want, so I may as well vote for a true maverick...he can't be any worse.

Actually, though, he does seem to "get" a lot of what the base wants, and I don't see him lying just to get votes, and then shafting us later, so maybe he'd be more responsive to the base when in office? Again, I guess he ultimately couldn't be any worse than what we've got (or the GOPe is offering).

Posted by: Grimaldi at September 22, 2015 11:19 PM (+R8HC)

31 17: I can see both scenarios. Biden is crude but not as dumb as he shows us. He goes for the jugular every time. Never take slow Joe for granted.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 22, 2015 11:19 PM (ucDmr)

32 If Huma's been watching Hillary sleep, then maybe Weiner was watching Bill all along too? Kinda kinky a la Ray Donovan season two?

Posted by: Walter Freeman at September 22, 2015 11:19 PM (kqGWM)

33 I love my CMP M1. A great rifle. Made in the early 40's. No telling where it's been.

Posted by: freaked at September 22, 2015 11:20 PM (BO/km)

34 CMP:

Why didn't the CMP have 10k's of M16's available for purchase after the AWB expiry?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 22, 2015 11:20 PM (JmGFJ)

35 "hunting and fishing makes you fall in love with the natural world"

Nightfishing alone on the Tennessee, I'd often stop in the middle where the river's a mile-and-a-half wide and sit. Just sit. I know of no more beautiful sight in the world.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 22, 2015 11:20 PM (u5gzz)

36 11 If there was a ChemJeff summer chemistry class, I'd take all of my time off to attend.
Posted by: Vendette at September 22, 2015 11:12 PM (pvjJj)

That's weird, eh

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 22, 2015 11:21 PM (3cgLL)

37 Hey-o!!!



This just in -- Hillary's pushing the DNC for this to be her campaign's theme song during the six five four? Dem debates: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrGw_cOgwa8 .

Posted by: cthulhu at September 22, 2015 11:21 PM (EzgxV)

38 Yes get one. Own a functional piece of history. Maybe even make history with it again.

Posted by: freaked at September 22, 2015 11:21 PM (BO/km)

39 I, for one, am seriously disappointed that the Pontiff just didn't blow off the the State Dinner (or is that tomorrow?)

Get this. All these anti-Catholics at the White House just champing at the bit to tear into the Guest of Honor. And Pope Chance the Gardiner fails to show up. Not phone call. Nothing.

That, my friends is a great scenario.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at September 22, 2015 11:22 PM (1ijHg)

40 That's weird, eh

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 22, 2015 11:21 PM (3cgLL)


eh is not part of the periodic table.

Posted by: Vendette at September 22, 2015 11:22 PM (pvjJj)

41 After a thread the other night, I realized why I'm flirting with the Trumpster. I want a JR Ewing for president. A ruthless, mean SOB....who's on our side.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 22, 2015 11:22 PM (dvuhZ)

42 34 CMP:
Why didn't the CMP have 10k's of M16's available for purchase after the AWB expiry?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 22, 2015 11:20 PM (JmGFJ)


Because the ATF has a rule: once a machine gun, always a machine gun. So surplus M14s and M16s will likely never be offered through the CMP since they were select-fire at one time.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 22, 2015 11:22 PM (pAlYe)

43 26: What about Big Bone Lick? I have seen that sign many times. I always go into Butthead mode, "I still says it".

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 22, 2015 11:22 PM (ucDmr)

44 "Why didn't the CMP have 10k's of M16's available for purchase after the AWB expiry?"



I was just wondering what CMP will offer next. Out of Springs for a while. M-1s running out. The Army and NG have been digging M-14 out for service over the last decade.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 22, 2015 11:23 PM (RtoDO)

45 Why didn't the CMP have 10k's of M16's available for purchase after the AWB expiry?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 22, 2015 11:20 PM (JmGFJ)
Easily convertible back to full auto / burst.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2015 11:23 PM (NaeCR)

46 I dunno Cthulhu, wouldn't this one be more along with her program?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYn3B-vjt5c

(gak - from the 90's and just, ick)

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2015 11:23 PM (3pRHP)

47 Just saw the Cruz/Colbert clip on Reagan. Not horrible, but as far as I'm concerned, he whiffed. He could have mentioned that Democrats didn't deliver on spending cuts in exchanged for tax increases. He could have mentioned the parts of the amnesty bill in '86 that would have made illegal immigration more difficult were never enforced. He could have mentioned that taxes were still much lower at the end of his administration than when he started. He didn't.

These are basic points that a high-profile politician should be able to toss out. I've reached the point where any Republican who can't debate this type of stuff comes across as patronizing to me. You're our standard bearer. You're our leader. You're out there to bring people to your (our) side.

If you want my vote, you (a person who actually is a politician by profession) better be able to debate this stuff better than I can.

I know she has some moderate/squishy problems of her own, and I'm not sold on her yet--but this is one reason why I like Carly Fiorina. After watching her a few times, I'd expect her to be able to handle something like this.

Posted by: AD at September 22, 2015 11:24 PM (S9XdH)

48
Maet, that's not helpful - the quality of that rack-grade M1, I mean! I have succesfully resisted the urge to add a third one to the stable. Both of mine are service-grade HRAs, and I lucked out on both metal condition and stocks (both GI wood in excellent yet charcter-rich used condition).

Which manufacturer for the receiver? And is that GI wood? Looks like it in the photo, certainly doesn't look like one of the new CMP ones.

And unless I'm wrong about your geography, shouldn't your cost of home delivery (vs. delivery to FFL) include the $100 for the COE, and I guess the $30 for the C ampersand R?

One thing I loved back when I got my Mosins and Garands - the "brown truck of happiness" pulling up. One driver got into Mosins based on my enthusiasm - I'd have him come into the garage while I opened up the box to inspect. Truly child-like Christmas morning for a male adult to open those boxes not knowing exactly what you've received.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2015 11:24 PM (QDnY+)

49 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 22, 2015 11:24 PM (YJmuy)

50 Regarding Trump,

He may be a son-of-a-bitch, but he's our son-of-a-bitch.


Posted by: Tricky Dick at September 22, 2015 11:25 PM (1ijHg)

51 "Because the ATF has a rule that once a machine gun, always a machine gun. So surplus M14s and M16s will likely never be offered through the CMP since they were select-fire at one time."

There ya go. CMP will either end or buy rack non-scary guns for the program.

What were the Canadian Rangers buying here awhile back? Sakos?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 22, 2015 11:25 PM (RtoDO)

52 Guess I`ll have to kick the immoral son of a bitches ass that disagrees with me, 2 way street and all that.

Posted by: rightlysouthern-aim low boys they`re ridin shetland ponies at September 22, 2015 11:25 PM (uyObz)

53
I, for one, am seriously disappointed that the Pontiff just didn't blow off the the State Dinner (or is that tomorrow?)

Get
this. All these anti-Catholics at the White House just champing at the
bit to tear into the Guest of Honor. And Pope Chance the Gardiner fails
to show up. Not phone call. Nothing.

That, my friends is a great scenario.




Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at September 22, 2015 11:22 PM (1ijHg)



There is no state dinner. Tomorrow morning will be a state welcome on the South Lawn of the White House, which you can find the controversial participants have been invited.

There will be a state dinner for the president of China.

Posted by: Vendette at September 22, 2015 11:26 PM (pvjJj)

54 I hereby announce my intent to organize a Moron Meetup, to coincide with the upcoming Worldcon science fiction convention (MidAmericon II) in Kansas City, August 17-21, 2016.

My breathtakingly nebulous plan consists of a desire to organize a Meetup of HQ morons and Hoyt's Huns from Sarah Hoyt's According To Hoyt web site, along with any other freedom-loving SF fan who's more or less aligned with the "Sad Puppy" movement--or at least, a SF-tolerant non-fan who's on the side of truth, justice, and the American Way of Dead White Male Founding Fathers.

I have no other details right now other than the general intent to try to organize something, somewhere in the KC metro.

Contact me at the electronic mail address which you may assemble from the following:

Huns, and Morons.

at Gmail.

Dot com.

(remove extraneous spaces and punctuation, and it's all lower-case).

No, I don't know what I'm getting into here. That's part of the fun, isn't it?

Any hints or tips from those who've actually organized or attended a Meet-up would be warmly appreciated!

I'll repost this or something like it sporadically in the next few days, weeks, months in the run-up to next summer. We'll just have to see what happens.

Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2015 11:26 PM (/j9PE)

55 Yeah, Sakos.

Doubt they'll go spending any money.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 22, 2015 11:26 PM (RtoDO)

56 "Eating Carpet Strictly Prohibited"

I'll never be going there!

Posted by: Hillary! Rodham-Rodham at September 22, 2015 11:26 PM (awspb)

57 "He may be a son-of-a-bitch, but he's our son-of-a-bitch."


Ours, I don't know. But, he ain't owned by D.C., so, that's his thing.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 22, 2015 11:27 PM (RtoDO)

58
Oh - if it's April '45 then it's a Springfield Armory, since HRA is the only other type available in rack grade, I think. And you mentioned it's GI wood with cartouches.

Score, my friend.

*grits teeth, goes through reasoning as to why I don't need/can't afford another M1 for the hundredth time*

Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2015 11:28 PM (QDnY+)

59 Hello ONT Crew!

Posted by: Zakn at September 22, 2015 11:29 PM (d2pTe)

60 southern boy riding shetland ponies,

we must be kin. For years, while others are standing on the shoulders of giants,
I have been standing on the shoulders of midgets, sinking in quicksand.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at September 22, 2015 11:29 PM (1ijHg)

61 Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2015 11:26 PM (/j9PE)



Sarah Hoyt is fantastic. I may just let something out, but...Persuasion.

Posted by: Vendette at September 22, 2015 11:29 PM (pvjJj)

62 Evening all.

Posted by: Blano at September 22, 2015 11:29 PM (heN73)

63 That carpet thing did remind me of the South Park episode where Cartman tried to be a Lesbian

Posted by: Zakn at September 22, 2015 11:30 PM (d2pTe)

64 HOOORDE

>>>Soon to be famous...but not as famous as Lizard Lick, or French Broad.

Knob Lick, KY laughs at those lesser hilarious town names.

Posted by: DC in River City at September 22, 2015 11:30 PM (e+1S5)

65 That should read "Eating Out in the Carpeted Area is Prohibited"!

Posted by: joey biden at September 22, 2015 11:31 PM (+W1gD)

66 If Walker or Perry had chimed in "Hell Yes. Build a wall and make the Mexican's pay for it, and deport the illegal aliens here" they would still be in the race

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at September 22, 2015 11:31 PM (1ijHg)

67 No, these 'neo puritans' are no such thing. They're not fundamentalist christian, they don't believe in God, and they are not preaching a religion.

They are plain and simple, old fashioned tyrant dictators.

There is no reason to redefine old words to mean some new thing that isn't new at all. It isn't necessary to confuse the issues by dressing the debate up in new labels and new code words.

If we keep on with this redefining the meaning of words we are going to end up with a language that doesn't mean anything, that means different things to different people, just as we are doing to the law now. The law no longer exists because no one agrees what the law is anymore, nor to whom the law applies.

It will become impossible to have a conversation about anything made all the worse when facts are fabricated or ignored.

Without a common language and law that we all agree with, there is no way to mediate disputes other than by force.

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at September 22, 2015 11:31 PM (ix3hc)

68
Yeah, CMP will not be selling any modern selective-fire long arms - not sure why anyone ever thought they would. Down to M1 Garands now, some carbines on auction, and maybe some barreled receivers (haven't checked in a while). Plus lots of spare parts, and ammo (mostly commercial).

Ricardo, saw an article online about the Canadian scouts. Their venerable Enfields were being turned in and a purpose-built Sako rifle was to replace them. I think the Sakos will also be available in a civilian version to the commercial market.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2015 11:31 PM (QDnY+)

69 Knob Lick, KY laughs at those lesser hilarious town names.
Posted by: DC in River City

But if the Knob is being Licked, why does it need KY?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at September 22, 2015 11:32 PM (awspb)

70 Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2015 11:26 PM (/j9PE)



Organize a meetup in a place that will not be bothered by outside noise.

Posted by: Vendette at September 22, 2015 11:32 PM (pvjJj)

71 Carried an M1 for two years. Every Memorial day I have one of the rifle-salute vets run me through the manual of arms using one of their rifles. Still perfect, if I do say so myself.

Last U.S. rifle that had a stacking swivel.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2015 11:32 PM (9mTYi)

72 Athol, MA

Never gets old.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2015 11:33 PM (NOIQH)

73 47 I dunno Cthulhu, wouldn't this one be more along with her program?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYn3B-vjt5c

(gak - from the 90's and just, ick)

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2015 11:23 PM (3pRHP)




Yeesh -- at least mine was *ahem* easy on the eyes.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 22, 2015 11:33 PM (EzgxV)

74 Maet congrats on the new addition. Keep it way from canoes, kayaks and the bath tub

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 22, 2015 11:33 PM (3cgLL)

75 I'll think about going to the World Con thing in a few weeks. I'm still undecided if I just want to burn the motherfucker down or just try and rebuild SFF from the inside. The Hugos really pissed me off the way those guys acted. So I'm pretty inclined to go fuck you nerds and just torch the place

Posted by: Zakn at September 22, 2015 11:33 PM (d2pTe)

76 After a thread the other night, I realized why I'm flirting with the Trumpster. I want a JR Ewing for president. A ruthless, mean SOB....who's on our side.

And both entirely fictional characters.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 22, 2015 11:33 PM (X9Mnx)

77 Dinner for a Commie/Fascist.

No dinner for a Christian.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at September 22, 2015 11:33 PM (1ijHg)

78 Kansas City, Kansas City here I come

Posted by: Vendette at September 22, 2015 11:34 PM (pvjJj)

79 Caught the Blindspot premiere. Looks like the basic layout is going to be somewhat similar to Black List. The difference is that in the former, the FBI doesn't know who their equivalent of James Spader's character is (he's shown briefly a few times in the first episode), and Jamie Alexander has the equivalent of the titular black list tattooed on her body.

Posted by: junior at September 22, 2015 11:34 PM (PVi+Q)

80 71 Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2015 11:26 PM (/j9PE)



Organize a meetup in a place that will not be bothered by outside noise.
Posted by: Vendette at September 22, 2015 11:32 PM (pvjJj)

Cemeteries

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 22, 2015 11:34 PM (3cgLL)

81
Maet, Weirddave got a CMP M1 not long ago, and regular commenter Village Idiot's Apprentice is building two from parts.

So once we get the private jet, a Moron Meet-up/Shoot 'em Up with M1s will be the first priority.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2015 11:34 PM (QDnY+)

82 Kansas City, Kansas City here I come
Posted by: Vendette
--------------------

It seems to have an attraction for crazy little women.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2015 11:35 PM (9mTYi)

83 What will CMP sell when the M1's are all gone?

Looks like 1911's. A large batch has been released to them.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 22, 2015 11:36 PM (xq1UY)

84 "Their venerable Enfields were being turned in and a purpose-built Sako rifle was to replace them. I think the Sakos will also be available in a civilian version to the commercial market."


Yeah, I read that here. Had no clue otherwise. Didn't even know they still carried Ennies.


Good gun, the Sako, should serve them well and I think I read too the mod would be civilian available.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 22, 2015 11:36 PM (RtoDO)

85 Maet, Weirddave got a CMP M1 not long ago, and regular commenter Village Idiot's Apprentice is building two from parts.

So once we get the private jet, a Moron Meet-up/Shoot 'em Up with M1s will be the first priority.



Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2015 11:34 PM (QDnY+)


Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium.

Posted by: Vendette at September 22, 2015 11:36 PM (pvjJj)

86 Adios my friends in the little gray boxes. See you all next time.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at September 22, 2015 11:36 PM (ucDmr)

87 Organize a meetup in a place that will not be bothered by outside noise


Firing range.

Posted by: freaked at September 22, 2015 11:37 PM (BO/km)

88 76 I'll think about going to the World Con thing in a few weeks. I'm still undecided if I just want to burn the motherfucker down or just try and rebuild SFF from the inside. The Hugos really pissed me off the way those guys acted. So I'm pretty inclined to go fuck you nerds and just torch the place
Posted by: Zakn at September 22, 2015 11:33 PM (d2pTe)

Burn it all down!

Posted by: Thrawn at September 22, 2015 11:37 PM (wZ2hu)

89 75 Maet congrats on the new addition. Keep it way from canoes, kayaks and the bath tub
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 22, 2015 11:33 PM (3cgLL)


Not much of a concern since I have a milling machine, jigs, paper weights, parts, time, a devious mind, and a large backyard.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 22, 2015 11:38 PM (pAlYe)

90
Hayfield your point about language, and about law, is really central. Of course the two points converge into one when one gets to the absurdity of the SCOTUS' rampant (and capricious) legislation lately. It also ties into a hobby horse I try not to ride (or hit with the crop) too much - this refusal/inability of non-fascist, non-racist, non-insane public figures to reject/dismantle the false premises of almost all public discussions and questions.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2015 11:38 PM (QDnY+)

91 Old gray boxes? Let's leave Hillary out of this!

Posted by: joey biden at September 22, 2015 11:38 PM (+W1gD)

92 I mean yeah, my life sucks, but not buried alive and paved into new road bad. It's all about perspective.

Posted by: CausticConservative at September 22, 2015 11:38 PM (5q6rm)

93 And, what is it, the Danish Marines that still carry Springys to Greenland? Saw that here or somewhere on the net.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 22, 2015 11:39 PM (RtoDO)

94 Not much of a concern since I have a milling machine, jigs, paper weights, parts, time, a devious mind, and a large backyard.


Posted by: Maetenloch at September 22, 2015 11:38 PM (pAlYe)


But what about the bathtub?
(I kid, therefore I am.)

Posted by: Vendette at September 22, 2015 11:40 PM (pvjJj)

95 Grampa, i wish all those midgets ridin those Shetlands would run on off into sections of quicksand.

Posted by: rightlysouthern-aim low boys they`re ridin shetland ponies at September 22, 2015 11:40 PM (uyObz)

96 If I were the Pope I'd be tempted to throw holy water on Obama to see if he sizzles.

Posted by: Lauren at September 22, 2015 11:41 PM (GZ6Pf)

97 Evening horde. Not even attempting work tomorrow.

What's the haps?

*scrolls up

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 22, 2015 11:41 PM (9jeGC)

98 Yeah, I read that here. Had no clue otherwise. Didn't even know they still carried Ennies.
Good gun, the Sako, should serve them well and I think I read too the mod would be civilian available.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 22, 2015 11:36 PM (RtoDO)


They would have kept the Enfields except that it's getting harder and harder to find spare parts to keep them going.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 22, 2015 11:41 PM (pAlYe)

99 Nite Chavez

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 22, 2015 11:41 PM (3cgLL)

100 "I mean yeah, my life sucks, but not buried alive and paved into new road bad."


Anti-Union I see.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 22, 2015 11:41 PM (RtoDO)

101 Then there's
Intercourse PA which close to Blue Ball PA

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at September 22, 2015 11:41 PM (ioXP7)

102 Maet, congrats on the beautiful boomstick.

Posted by: Emmie at September 22, 2015 11:42 PM (eg4Vl)

103 Posted by: Lauren at September 22, 2015 11:41 PM (GZ6Pf)



How is Baby Lauren doing?

Posted by: Vendette at September 22, 2015 11:42 PM (pvjJj)

104
Stringer, you gonna make me go check the "Ask the Director" thread at CMP Forums on that 1911 thing? Really? Is that a confirmed rumor?

The CMP crowd relentlessly hounds the good-humored management about more carbines, and 1911s, but I thought it was settled that there would be no more firearms apart from M1s from here on out.

I bought 4 surplus 1911 mags from CMP a few months ago ($7/each? irrestible price whatever it was). That release sparked another frenzy of 1911 fever, but I haven't checked since then.


Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2015 11:42 PM (QDnY+)

105 RightlySouthern! *hugs*

Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 22, 2015 11:43 PM (eg4Vl)

106 Organize a meetup in a place that will not be bothered by outside noise.
Posted by: Vendette at September 22, 2015 11:32 PM (pvjJj)


I have a back yard . . . it has a pool.

Not entirely sure that would be a totally appropriate (or wise) venue, however. My neighbors and I generally get along pretty well, but . . .

Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2015 11:44 PM (/j9PE)

107 Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 22, 2015 11:43 PM (eg4Vl)



Just wondering about the name change...

Posted by: Vendette at September 22, 2015 11:44 PM (pvjJj)

108 >>>Old gray boxes? Let's leave Hillary out of this!

Brin bleach! Getcha brain bleach heah!

Posted by: DC in River City at September 22, 2015 11:44 PM (e+1S5)

109 Then there's
Intercourse PA which close to Blue Ball PA
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad

How close is Intercourse to the Hershey Highway?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at September 22, 2015 11:44 PM (awspb)

110 "They would have kept the Enfields except that it's getting harder and harder to find spare parts to keep them going."


Yeah, it is. Also, .303 is starting the shrink. Can find at gun shows and on-line. You don't walk into a store and find it. S&B and Prvi make but it's not always so great.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 22, 2015 11:44 PM (RtoDO)

111 Lauren @ 97 that was chuckle worthy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 22, 2015 11:44 PM (3cgLL)

112 Whelp, even autocucumber can't save my shitty spelling. G'night horde.

Posted by: DC in River City at September 22, 2015 11:45 PM (e+1S5)

113 And both entirely fictional characters.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 22, 2015 11:33 PM (X9Mnx)

*****

Really now? I'm seeing one of them, the Billionaire that you GOPe guys created, getting an awful lot of free press for a fictional character.

Perhaps one of your GOPe squishes could get off their dead asses and figure out how to do the same thing.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 22, 2015 11:45 PM (TVzKw)

114 68 No, these 'neo puritans' are no such thing. They're not fundamentalist christian, they don't believe in God, and they are not preaching a religion.

They are plain and simple, old fashioned tyrant dictators.

There is no reason to redefine old words to mean some new thing that isn't new at all. It isn't necessary to confuse the issues by dressing the debate up in new labels and new code words.

===============

I'm up for it if the Puritan part gets lowercased. After all they called themselves that because they wanted to "purify" the English Church of the old-fashioned Roman Catholicism. Similarly the neo-puritans want to purify the world from the "taint" of conservative (i.e., time-tested) thinking. And it's useful to encourage people to recognize their similarities with something they've spent so much vitriol in decrying.

Posted by: Sister Sestina at September 22, 2015 11:45 PM (wuOL0)

115 I have a back yard . . . it has a pool.



Not entirely sure that would be a totally appropriate (or wise)
venue, however. My neighbors and I generally get along pretty well, but
. . .

Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2015 11:44 PM (/j9PE)


The NoVa MoMee is a pretty well-behaved bunch.

Posted by: Vendette at September 22, 2015 11:46 PM (pvjJj)

116 106 RightlySouthern! *hugs*
Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 22, 2015 11:43 PM (eg4Vl)

Howdy!!!! Sweetheart, hugs right back to yall.

Posted by: rightlysouthern-aim low boys they`re ridin shetland ponies at September 22, 2015 11:46 PM (uyObz)

117 I'll think about going to the World Con thing in a few weeks. I'm still undecided if I just want to burn the motherfucker down or just try and rebuild SFF from the inside. The Hugos really pissed me off the way those guys acted. So I'm pretty inclined to go fuck you nerds and just torch the place
Posted by: Zakn at September 22, 2015 11:33 PM (d2pTe)


Easier to burn down a house if you're inside. I bought an attending membership and plan to attend the business meeting.

I do not expect hilarity to ensue.

Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2015 11:46 PM (/j9PE)

118
I have a back yard . . . it has a pool.

Not entirely sure that would be a totally appropriate (or wise) venue, however. My neighbors and I generally get along pretty well, but . . .

Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2015 11:44 PM (/j9PE)

Be aware you may not just get the horde there (whom are respectful to a fault). Infiltrators.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 22, 2015 11:46 PM (9jeGC)

119 It seems to have an attraction for crazy little women.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2015 11:35 PM (9mTYi)


Yeah. I got me one.

Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2015 11:47 PM (/j9PE)

120 67 If Walker or Perry had chimed in "Hell Yes. Build a wall and make the Mexican's pay for it, and deport the illegal aliens here" they would still be in the race

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at September 22, 2015 11:31 PM (1ijHg)



True. However, a wall will not stop them as long as there is free stuff on the other side unless you put up a "Berlin type" wall situation and I don't think we want to go there.




Posted by: Ralph at September 22, 2015 11:47 PM (p/8Bt)

121 I'm on the air and no one is there!

Posted by: Brian Williams at September 22, 2015 11:47 PM (gwG9s)

122 108 Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 22, 2015 11:43 PM (eg4Vl)



Just wondering about the name change...

Posted by: Vendette at September 22, 2015 11:44 PM (pvjJj)



Potential cross-contamination from IRL.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 22, 2015 11:47 PM (EzgxV)

123 "How is Baby Lauren doing?"

She's good. Poor dear caught the cold my older kids brought home, but it doesn't seem to be bothering her too badly. Still the sweetest, easiest baby I've had. Thanks for asking

How are you doing?

Posted by: Lauren at September 22, 2015 11:47 PM (GZ6Pf)

124 42
After a thread the other night, I realized why I'm flirting with the
Trumpster. I want a JR Ewing for president. A ruthless, mean
SOB....who's on our side.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 22, 2015 11:22 PM (dvuhZ)

Yep. Patton was an SOB, too, wasn't he? We need SOBs right now to fix this Obama mess. No more gentlemen.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 22, 2015 11:47 PM (xetep)

125 Vendetta,

Did you attend this years? Any outsiders?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 22, 2015 11:48 PM (9jeGC)

126 Les Bottes de Stompie ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/646389300871974912

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/646389688882872320

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/646390152961597440

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/646390458042707968

Posted by: kbdabear at September 22, 2015 11:48 PM (ZiS0i)

127 Sorry that autocorrect made your name masculine.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 22, 2015 11:48 PM (9jeGC)

128 Be aware you may not just get the horde there (whom are respectful to a fault). Infiltrators.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 22, 2015 11:46 PM (9jeGC)


Yep. Public places would undoubtedly be preferred, at least until I get to know people personally face-to-face.

Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2015 11:48 PM (/j9PE)

129 Science: It Turns Out That Chimps Love Horror Movies Too

Oddly enough they are psychotic, love beating off, and throwing shit.

Go figure.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 22, 2015 11:49 PM (JmGFJ)

130 Or feminine.

Damn auto cucumber and leave it at that.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 22, 2015 11:49 PM (9jeGC)

131 The NoVa MoMee is a pretty well-behaved bunch.
Posted by: Vendette at September 22, 2015 11:46 PM (pvjJj)


The Puppy Kickers . . . aren't.

Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2015 11:49 PM (/j9PE)

132 Mean SOB good, just not sure he's our mean SOB.


Posted by: Ralph at September 22, 2015 11:50 PM (p/8Bt)

133 "Biden is crude but not as dumb as he shows us. He goes for the jugular every time. Never take slow Joe for granted."

A few simple sentences that were entirely lost on the elite Ivy League MBA brain trust of the Romney-Ryan 2012 campaign.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 22, 2015 11:50 PM (noWW6)

134 "Yep. Patton was an SOB, too, wasn't he? We need SOBs right now to fix this Obama mess. No more gentlemen."



Break Glass In Case Of War.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 22, 2015 11:51 PM (RtoDO)

135 Did you attend this years? Any outsiders?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 22, 2015 11:48 PM (9jeGC)



I have attended all three NoVaMoMees.


At the last, I shushed a group that was talking over MWR when she was reciting her monologue. I learned later that one of them was Ace.

Posted by: Vendette at September 22, 2015 11:51 PM (pvjJj)

136 Vendette, the nic change is to protect my anonymity in case I invite friends/family to this site. Now the problem is that I must remember to not relate the same thoughts/stories here that I do in real life. I'll just have to create a real, honest-to-goodness alter ego, like a superhero!

Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 22, 2015 11:52 PM (eg4Vl)

137 Yep. Public places would undoubtedly be preferred, at least until I get to know people personally face-to-face.

Posted by: filbert at September 22, 2015 11:48 PM (/j9PE)

What's worked in the past is to tell everyone to send a full body pic (granted, from a 'Ron goes into the spam can)


Kidding of course. But yeah, if it's a first meet up/greet definitely a public place.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 22, 2015 11:52 PM (9jeGC)

138 " I learned later that one of them was Ace."

Haha awesome.

Posted by: Lauren at September 22, 2015 11:53 PM (GZ6Pf)

139 At the last, I shushed a group that was talking over MWR when she was reciting her monologue. I learned later that one of them was Ace.

Posted by: Vendette at September 22, 2015 11:51 PM (pvjJj)

This years?

LOL. (Just picturing it in my head)

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 22, 2015 11:54 PM (9jeGC)

140 "Biden is crude but not as dumb as he shows us. He goes for the jugular every time. Never take slow Joe for granted."

A few simple sentences that were entirely lost on the elite Ivy League MBA brain trust of the Romney-Ryan 2012 campaign.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 22, 2015 11:50 PM (noWW6)


That doesn't mean Biden isn't dumb, though. It just means we're dumber.

Posted by: AD at September 22, 2015 11:54 PM (S9XdH)

141 >> time, a devious mind, and a large backyard.


You call that large?

Posted by: Michele Obama's Landing Strip at September 22, 2015 11:54 PM (MX6uf)

142 No, these 'neo puritans' are no such thing. They're not fundamentalist christian, they don't believe in God, and they are not preaching a religion.

Except... that this disease *did* spread out from the post-Congregationalist churches and colleges in Massachusetts. They abandoned God but didn't abandon anything else.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 22, 2015 11:55 PM (AVEe1)

143 Vendette, the nic change is to protect my anonymity
in case I invite friends/family to this site. Now the problem is that I
must remember to not relate the same thoughts/stories here that I do in
real life. I'll just have to create a real, honest-to-goodness alter
ego, like a superhero!

Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 22, 2015 11:52 PM (eg4Vl)



Carry on...

Posted by: Vendette at September 22, 2015 11:55 PM (pvjJj)

144 121 Ralph.

Go ahead and call me names I don't care. A Berlin Wall with guards who shot to kill would stop a lot of this illegal flow. I've had this conversation with others. Toss a few warning shots. But shoot to kill if necessary. It's about time we secured our borders, north, south, east and west

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 22, 2015 11:55 PM (3cgLL)

145 rhomboid
Thanks

Sister Sestina
Well it's confusing having to decrypt the meanings and trying to figure out what groups are being talked about.

It feels like we're going back to the dark ages and secret societies and intrigue and assination among the minor house royals plotting against the king. Back to a time when it sucked to be a serf.

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at September 22, 2015 11:55 PM (ix3hc)

146 " I learned later that one of them was Ace."


Can't we have a blog w/o a perv around?


I swear.


Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 22, 2015 11:55 PM (RtoDO)

147 If you Scotch-Guard it, I won't eat it.

Posted by: eleven at September 22, 2015 11:56 PM (rjtGa)

148
Was just yesterday wandering through the CMP site, rack grade M1's are $630, service grade is another hundred, and the price escalates from there.

My Garand is service grade, as is the M14, the 1911 is just old.

Only thing better is the 2 Navy Colts, one with provenance and the other falls in the destroyed serial # range.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 22, 2015 11:56 PM (jeCnD)

149 This years?



LOL. (Just picturing it in my head)

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 22, 2015 11:54 PM (9jeGC)

Yes. I apologized afterwards.

Posted by: Vendette at September 22, 2015 11:57 PM (pvjJj)

150 Here's what will help LA - more $ for the homeless:

http://tinyurl.com/nq7ok8t

Funny, there's no mention in that NYT article about Obama and his supposedly "great" economy.

100 million will be a bigger magnet for bringing the homeless to LA than the bus the kids used in South Park to get the homeless out of their town:

http://tinyurl.com/ny852sn


Posted by: Thrawn at September 22, 2015 11:57 PM (wZ2hu)

151 "Was just yesterday wandering through the CMP site, rack grade M1's are $630, service grade is another hundred, and the price escalates from there.
"


Maybe I need to check. Just assumed all gone.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 22, 2015 11:58 PM (RtoDO)

152 142 >> time, a devious mind, and a large backyard.


You call that large?
Posted by: Michele Obama's Landing Strip at September 22, 2015 11:54 PM (MX6uf)

This coming from the crotch that looks like a tropical rain forest

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 22, 2015 11:58 PM (3cgLL)

153 At the last, I shushed a group that was talking over MWR when she was reciting her monologue. I learned later that one of them was Ace.
Posted by: Vendette at September 22, 2015 11:51 PM (pvjJj)

See, the Upper East Coast has the power, even here.

Posted by: rightlysouthern-aim low boys they`re ridin shetland ponies at September 22, 2015 11:58 PM (uyObz)

154 "Yes. I apologized afterwards."

And then he hit you over the head with the live action ban hammer right?

Posted by: Lauren at September 22, 2015 11:58 PM (bYGAR)

155 Happy-ish Tuesday Evening, all y'all ...

Posted by: Adriane the Critic ... at September 22, 2015 11:59 PM (qOsoH)

156
Vendette, meant to ask you: is there some simple answer (hell, any reason) that, yet again, NO appropriations bills were passed? Yes it's scandalous that I haven't bothered to keep up, but my gawd. Again? ANOTHER CR? WTFF?

Obviously there is no conceivable excuse for the House not to pass approps bills. But did the Senate Dems simply shut down the process? And as my focus was not on that process side of things, not sure how could they even do so? Apart from objecting to motions to proceed to the bills on the floor - which you'd think would become an instant huge story and confrontation.

Even most who are desperately fed up with GOP inefficacy probably don't realize just how importantit is tohave approps bills passed so that veto fights can be set up over specific issues, and avoid the grotesquely orwellian theater of "shut downs".

Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2015 11:59 PM (QDnY+)

157 >>>...But shoot to kill if necessary. It's about time we secured our borders, north, south, east and west

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 22, 2015 11:55 PM (3cgLL)<<<

It would be as affective and more humane to simply stop ALL the free stuff.


Posted by: Ralph at September 22, 2015 11:59 PM (p/8Bt)

158 See, the Upper East Coast has the power, even here.

Posted by: rightlysouthern-aim low boys they`re ridin shetland ponies at September 22, 2015 11:58 PM (uyObz)



Honey, I'm mid-Atlantic.

Posted by: Vendette at September 23, 2015 12:00 AM (pvjJj)

159 100 million will be a bigger magnet for bringing the homeless to LA than the bus the kids used in South Park to get the homeless out of their town:
Posted by: Thrawn


As opposed to the $15 trillion spent by the Federals on the "war on poverty" since the '70's and our Betters' plan for open immigration?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 23, 2015 12:01 AM (JmGFJ)

160 Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 22, 2015 11:52 PM (eg4Vl)

Super Hero, works well with me.

BTW missed yall.

Posted by: rightlysouthern-aim low boys they`re ridin shetland ponies at September 23, 2015 12:01 AM (uyObz)

161 I talked a little bit about Trump's 2nd Amendment statement last night. Bottom line... I think it's very classy, just fabulous.

I don't know if I actually believe him 100%, but he's definitely making the right noises on that issue (unlike the rest of the GOP field), and he might not end up betraying conservatives on that issue.

This might seem a little sad, but in this day of the Washington Uniparty being best represented mascotically by a chimera with the heads of a donkey, an elephant and a rhino, I think it's the best we're going to get on that issue.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Cruz 2016! at September 23, 2015 12:01 AM (wKc1L)

162 I'll just have to create a real, honest-to-goodness alter ego, like a superhero!

Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 22, 2015 11:52 PM (eg4Vl)

Black Panther???

Damn. Coates is gonna make this interesting.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 23, 2015 12:01 AM (9jeGC)

163 Go ahead and call me names I don't care. A Berlin
Wall with guards who shot to kill would stop a lot of this illegal flow.
I've had this conversation with others. Toss a few warning shots. But
shoot to kill if necessary. It's about time we secured our borders,
north, south, east and west

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 22, 2015 11:55 PM (3cgLL)

Seems harsh.

The fact is, the unruly neighboring tribe does not need rocks and pointy sticks if our tribe won't even stop them from just walking in and making themselves at home.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 23, 2015 12:01 AM (NaeCR)

164 147 " I learned later that one of them was Ace."
--------

You've been a moron long enough to know, pics or it didn't happen.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 23, 2015 12:01 AM (3cgLL)

165 But did the Senate Dems simply shut down the process?

Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2015 11:59 PM (QDnY+)



Yes.

Posted by: Vendette at September 23, 2015 12:01 AM (pvjJj)

166 158 >>>...But shoot to kill if necessary. It's about time we secured our borders, north, south, east and west

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 22, 2015 11:55 PM (3cgLL)<<<

It would be as affective and more humane to simply stop ALL the free stuff.


Posted by: Ralph at September 22, 2015 11:59 PM (p/8Bt)



I'm good with "both" as an answer.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 12:03 AM (EzgxV)

167 Good night!

Posted by: Vendette at September 23, 2015 12:04 AM (pvjJj)

168 Good night, Vendette!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Cruz 2016! at September 23, 2015 12:04 AM (wKc1L)

169 According to CMP, rack M-1s still available.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 23, 2015 12:04 AM (RtoDO)

170 Night Vendette.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 23, 2015 12:04 AM (9jeGC)

171 My Lord!

Trump's son killed a kitteh!

Assemble the SJW Lynch Mob!

Posted by: filbert at September 23, 2015 12:04 AM (/j9PE)

172 Biden actually did both recently: lauding the Pope's climate change activism and saying he would refuse to impose his religious views about abortion on anyone else. So I guess imposing religious views is totes cool except when it comes to abortion.

Posted by: JohnJ at September 23, 2015 12:05 AM (TF/YA)

173 You would think that someone who could afford to drop $100K on the Clintons, would dress a little better.
A Feminist admiting differences between men and womyn?
So pimps are appropriating 20's white culture? For shame.
Sorry to hear about the loss your M1 in that canoe accident, maet.

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 23, 2015 12:06 AM (KlVdw)

174 Sorry, "Field."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 23, 2015 12:06 AM (RtoDO)

175 Biden actually did both recently: lauding the Pope's climate change activism and saying he would refuse to impose his religious views about abortion on anyone else. So I guess imposing religious views is totes cool except when it comes to abortion.
Posted by: JohnJ at September 23, 2015 12:05 AM (TF/YA)


Unlimited abortion-upon-demand IS a religious view.

It's just not a Christian one.

Posted by: filbert at September 23, 2015 12:06 AM (/j9PE)

176 I have no intentions of watching the new TV show that NBC (or one of those networks) is over advertising, Quantico. I already know who the "traitor in there mist" is. The straight, white, male, who supports the Tea Party and goes to church. All that said, Priyanka Chopra is smokin' hot and thats understating it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 23, 2015 12:06 AM (NGd+i)

177 You've been a moron long enough to know, pics or it didn't happen.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 23, 2015 12:01 AM (3cgLL)

Ace had a confrontation with Vendette. Why do you think the content is slow coming.

Time to heal man. Time to heal.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 23, 2015 12:07 AM (9jeGC)

178 Time for the old folk. Getting to be yard work time again.

Thank God for rear baggers.

Remember, we are Americans, the head is held HIGH.


Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 23, 2015 12:07 AM (jeCnD)

179 Figure out tomorrow. Hasta.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 23, 2015 12:07 AM (RtoDO)

180 How did you get a rifle delivered directly to your home without having to go through an FFL?

Posted by: rokshox at September 23, 2015 12:07 AM (Ap82b)

181 Sorry to hear about the loss your M1 in that canoe accident, maet.
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 23, 2015 12:06 AM (KlVdw)


Why do all these good people keep taking their precious firearms out on canoe trips?

Why?

WHY???

Posted by: filbert at September 23, 2015 12:08 AM (/j9PE)

182 Good night, Ricardo!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Cruz 2016! at September 23, 2015 12:08 AM (wKc1L)

183 It would be as affective and more humane to simply stop ALL the free stuff.


Posted by: Ralph at September 22, 2015 11:59 PM (p/8Bt)

I am beyond caring about humane, and let me tell you why it won't be effective: because it is impossible.

You can't cut all the free stuff out without eliminating the programs entirely, and that will never, ever happen.

There is not a soul in this country besides me who would immediately eliminate all welfare, free meals at school, food stamps, Section 8, etc etc etc , and that's what you'd have to do.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:08 AM (4zDs/)

184 Ralph, the free shit ending a will never happen. Better chance of a Berlin fence going up. Am I harsh? Perhaps.

Also companies large, medium and small if busted with illegals should be fined that they hurt and hurt bad.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 23, 2015 12:08 AM (3cgLL)

185 Ace had a confrontation with Vendette. Why do you think the content is slow coming.

Time to heal man. Time to heal.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 23, 2015 12:07 AM (9jeGC)


The real reason Ace got all grumpy and bannity, I reckon.

That or especially assholish posters. That'll make you testy, too.

Posted by: filbert at September 23, 2015 12:09 AM (/j9PE)

186 thougHoney, I'm mid-Atlantic.
Posted by: Vendette at September 23, 2015 12:00 AM (pvjJj)h you are upper east, being friendly, eh.

I know you are, was referring to Ace, just being friendly,ay.

Posted by: rightlysouthern-aim low boys they`re ridin shetland ponies at September 23, 2015 12:10 AM (uyObz)

187 Go ahead and call me names I don't care. A Berlin Wall with guards who
shot to kill would stop a lot of this illegal flow. I've had this
conversation with others. Toss a few warning shots. But shoot to kill if
necessary. It's about time we secured our borders, north, south, east
and west


Word.
The USA IS being invaded.

Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at September 23, 2015 12:11 AM (lAXNl)

188 Rightly!!! And I saw Jake last night, too, but got called away before I could say hello.

Anyone who thinks Trump won't change his mind on things once he's in is charmingly naive.

I like Trump's mouth and I have not ruled him out, but I don't trust him. I think he is also likely to whiff on the wall once got in, but hope springs eternal, after all.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:11 AM (4zDs/)

189
Vendette - thanks.

And jeebus. One party has - first time I can think of it ever happening - literally shut down the appropriations process, and the other party isn't burning down the house over it, and making them and their prez own it?

Though it seems impossible, things are worse than I thought.

Don't think I'm exaggerating here. We are now at the point where, due to the failure of the opposition party to oppose, to do any sort of basic political work, there is literally no division of power in govt. The WH can demand any spending on anything it wants, and the Congress will meekly comply, since there will be a "shut-down" if all demands are not met.

Of course this unprecedented situation would evaporate the nano-second a GOP president is sworn in (however useless and weakhe/she is), and once again Congress would have the stronger hand in budget matters.

Starting to really look like things are far past the point of no return.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2015 12:11 AM (QDnY+)

190 Buffalo Gals probably wanted you to see the vid at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ALIKPcP2gc

Posted by: Boutrous-Boutrous Buttnozzle at September 23, 2015 12:11 AM (ymbWD)

191 Thank God for rear baggers.
. . .
Posted by: irongrampa at September 23, 2015 12:07 AM (jeCnD)


In the days of yore, ya wouldn't get away with a line like this in the ONT, I tell ya . . .

Posted by: filbert at September 23, 2015 12:11 AM (/j9PE)

192 There is not a soul in this country besides me who would immediately eliminate all welfare, free meals at school, food stamps, Section 8, etc etc etc , and that's what you'd have to do.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:08 AM (4zDs/)

****

They could very easily be phased out over time, if the DC political will existed to make this happen.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 23, 2015 12:11 AM (TVzKw)

193 Night Vendette, Ricky & IG

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 23, 2015 12:12 AM (3cgLL)

194 There's a Knob Lick in three Kentucky counties and one in Missouri.

Posted by: Hank at September 23, 2015 12:14 AM (JyDJn)

195
12 Copied over from last thread:

Well, well, well...I thought the timing was too fast on this:



Last night, Irving Texas Mayor Beth Van Duyne revealed that the family of Ahmed Mohammed has repeatedly refused to meet with city officials, refused to released records exonerating police conduct, and that President Obama had tweeted about the case even before pictures of the so-called "clock" were publicly available.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2015 11:12 PM (NOIQH)



Just listened to Dana Loesch talking about this a little bit. This area is a place where they have been pushing for Sharia Law. There were recently some "honor killings." The mayor was the first person they went after. Not the school. Because she has been a major impediment to their efforts to implement their murderous fake religion judicial system.

Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2015 12:14 AM (zt+N6)

196
rokshox, in CA at least, the direct delivery of C ampersand R rifles is still possible, but in addition to the federal FFL-03 license you need a state-issued shake-down, er, "licence" called a COE, which costs $100+ and is only good for a year. So many C and R holders are not renewing, as most of the value is now gone.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2015 12:14 AM (QDnY+)

197 all right, I retire now.

Jet lag from returning yesterday from Mongolia, don't you know.

Six nights in gers.

Rustic.

Night, all.

Posted by: filbert at September 23, 2015 12:15 AM (/j9PE)

198 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 23, 2015 12:11 AM (TVzKw)

Hey!

No, I really don't think anyone would do it.

I'd start by limiting it to one kid, for 16 years going forward. No exceptions. And they'd have to choose between food stamps or free meals at school, because I have never understood why in the fuck they need both if little Johnny is getting all three meals at school, plus food sent home for the weekend, which is what they were doing in Cali when we left.

I'd also cut wayyyyyyyy back on Section 8, because let me tell ya, that is a good gig for landlords if they work it right.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:15 AM (4zDs/)

199 Stop the flow of money from illegals back to Mexico. Hell, the Fed set up some special "channel" to the Mexican central bank to make such transfers easier (this shows the elite want the illegals here, and want their money going to Mexico).

So stop that shit. No more easy transfers. To do it, you've got to be a citizen or legal resident and you go through some hoops to do it. Make it a felony to so transfer money without the proper authorization.

Second, another federal pound you in the ass prison sentence felony to hire illegals.

Third, no services for illegals. No hospitals have to treat them, etc. This would be the "heartless" one that would be impossible to implement I'm sure.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 23, 2015 12:16 AM (dvuhZ)

200 rokshox, in CA at least, the direct delivery of C ampersand R rifles is still possible, but in addition to the federal FFL-03 license you need a state-issued shake-down, er, "licence" called a COE, which costs $100+ and is only good for a year. So many C and R holders are not renewing, as most of the value is now gone.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2015 12:14 AM (QDnY+)


It only costs $22/year to renew an existing COE.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 23, 2015 12:16 AM (pAlYe)

201 How did you get a rifle delivered directly to your home without having to go through an FFL?


Posted by: rokshox at September 23, 2015 12:07 AM (Ap82b)

CMP is quasi-governmental - there is a paperdrill required to get 'qualified', shortcut is having a DD-214.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 23, 2015 12:17 AM (NaeCR)

202 President Obama had tweeted about the case even before pictures of the so-called "clock" were publicly available.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2015 11:12 PM (NOIQH)


Un-fucking-believable.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:17 AM (4zDs/)

203 "that President Obama had tweeted about the case even before pictures of the so-called "clock" were publicly available. "

Because he has his Imam from CAIR on speed dial.

Posted by: Lauren at September 23, 2015 12:17 AM (bYGAR)

204 You can't cut all the free stuff out without eliminating the programs entirely, and that will never, ever happen.


Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:08 AM (4zDs/)

Russia did it.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 23, 2015 12:18 AM (NaeCR)

205 Hi all
man what a day
ugh
how is everyone tonite?
Maet thanx for ONT as usual, I hope you enjoy your new toy

Posted by: chemjeff at September 23, 2015 12:18 AM (uZNvH)

206 Anyone who thinks Trump won't change his mind on things once he's in is charmingly na´ve


Possibly. But I have much more faith in him than I do Jebby Myturn, High priest of the Church of Government John Kasich, and Cuban McCain Rubio. And those are who they are hoping to push on us.

Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2015 12:18 AM (zt+N6)

207 Hey!

No, I really don't think anyone would do it.

I'd start by limiting it to one kid, for 16 years going forward. No exceptions. And they'd have to choose between food stamps or free meals at school, because I have never understood why in the fuck they need both if little Johnny is getting all three meals at school, plus food sent home for the weekend, which is what they were doing in Cali when we left.

I'd also cut wayyyyyyyy back on Section 8, because let me tell ya, that is a good gig for landlords if they work it right.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:15 AM (4zDs/)

*****

Agreed on all, but the DC political will remains the problem.

On Section 8, I know (not to be confused with being friends with) people who buy 4K trailers, spend a grand fixing them up, and rent them to Section 8 for $800/month.

Great way to make money, were it not for the constant showering and scrubbing that would be required. No thank you.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 23, 2015 12:19 AM (TVzKw)

208 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 23, 2015 12:16 AM (dvuhZ)

Agree on all three. Harder to implement than what you'd think, but I wish they'd try it and they won't because lots of people still want them here.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:20 AM (4zDs/)

209 Howdy Tammy, got behind on this fastalkin place, good to say the howdy to you.

Posted by: rightlysouthern-aim low boys they`re ridin shetland ponies at September 23, 2015 12:20 AM (uyObz)

210 183 It would be as affective and more humane to simply stop ALL the free stuff.


Posted by: Ralph at September 22, 2015 11:59 PM (p/8Bt)

I am beyond caring about humane, and let me tell you why it won't be effective: because it is impossible.

You can't cut all the free stuff out without eliminating the programs entirely, and that will never, ever happen.

There is not a soul in this country besides me who would immediately eliminate all welfare, free meals at school, food stamps, Section 8, etc etc etc , and that's what you'd have to do.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:08 AM (4zDs/)



Sign me up. If you can't find it in Article I, section 8, then it shouldn't EXIST in Washington, D.C. The mere mention of anything not specifically enumerated should have you marched to the Potomac and thrown in, preferably handcuffed to a cinderblock.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 12:20 AM (EzgxV)

211 I'm going to call it a night. Good night, everyone!

Posted by: Vendette at September 23, 2015 12:21 AM (pvjJj)

212 41 If the GOP nominee isn't all in on controlling the border...it won't matter anyways
-----------------
Let's not be too hasty and jump to conclusions.
After all, Trump, Fiorina, Cruz, Carson, etc. would also have a pen and a phone if elected, so there's that.

Posted by: lindafell de spair at September 23, 2015 12:21 AM (xVgrA)

213 What up, all?

Emmie, if you are still here, it looks like I (or my performance schedule) struck out on Morondezvous dates again this fall. But pass along my best wishes to the crew!

Moving yet more stuff this week, hopefully including the rest of the books. I miss them.

Posted by: Piercello, on the road again at September 23, 2015 12:22 AM (/Yo5v)

214 Better chance of a Berlin fence going up. Am I harsh? Perhaps.



Also companies large, medium and small if busted with illegals should be fined that they hurt and hurt bad.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 23, 2015 12:08 AM (3cgLL)

Berlin is a bad analogy. Roman walls are better - they were made primarily to keep foreigners from just wandering in.Severe penalties for hiring illegals, maybe even as harsh as selling alcohol to minors (both fines and evidence standards), may be more effective as walls/fences with lower front end cost.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 23, 2015 12:22 AM (NaeCR)

215 'Night Filbert and whomever else went to slumber.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 23, 2015 12:22 AM (9jeGC)

216 Priyanka Chopra is seriously hot. I keep seeing commercials for that stupid show she'll be on. Plus they have promotional pictures for Quantico scattered around the DC area. Do a quick internet search and I didn't see on bad pic. She is stunning.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 23, 2015 12:23 AM (NGd+i)

217 "Funny, there's no mention in that NYT article about Obama and his supposedly 'great' economy. 100 million will be a bigger magnet for bringing the homeless to LA
than the bus the kids used in South Park to get the homeless out of
their town"

San Francisco spends, in rough round numbers, about a half a million dollars PER DAY on its "homeless" problem, and has gotten no traction at all.

L.A. is a hell of a lot bigger. A hundred million bucks will be gone in a shot.

Of course, a huge amount of this money gets sucked up by various nongovernmental "agencies" and "service bureaus" operating under municipal contract to "assist" the homeless population.

These outfits are really just institutional-left sinecures for local Democratic ward-heelers. A ridiculously inefficient and corrupt way to run the show.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 23, 2015 12:23 AM (noWW6)

218 Let's not be too hasty and jump to conclusions.
After all, Trump, Fiorina, Cruz, Carson, etc. would also have a pen and a phone if elected, so there's that.
Posted by: lindafell de spair at September 23, 2015 12:21 AM (xVgrA)

*****

I would only trust 1.5 of those listed above to use said phone and pen.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 23, 2015 12:23 AM (TVzKw)

219 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 23, 2015 12:19 AM (TVzKw)

You and me both!

But I also know many people who own perfectly nice houses, in perfectly nice areas who make a killing. And it's not just ghetto trash who get Section 8, either.

I personally think that thing they passed a while back (or perhaps His Majesty just decreed it) about low income housing in fancy neighborhoods was probably lobbied for by people who know how to work that kind of thing and make bank on it.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:24 AM (4zDs/)

220 Evenin' chemjeff.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 23, 2015 12:24 AM (9jeGC)

221 Hi Tammy! Hi Chem! *waves*

Posted by: Zakn at September 23, 2015 12:25 AM (d2pTe)

222
Border barrier.

There is something in the water here, even with otherwise sensible regulars, when it comes to this topic. It's not complicated. Of course barriers work. If any confirmation of common sense is needed, the San Diego sector will suffice. Barrier totally changed the dynamic - and just as illustratively, things got much much worse just to the east, El Centro sector, where the barrier .... ends. DUH. (but there are day-time regulars here who inexplicably cling to illogical and counter-factual views on border barriers - it's bizarre)

You don't have to build the entire border the same way. Terrain actually helps make large stretches impassable *to the kind of illegal traffic we are talking about*, which is all that matters for this discussion. A very effective full border barrier would be easy, it would not rank among the most notable public works projects of even recent history.

And OF COURSE you also have to do enforcement - which is the larger point, anyway (lawlessness). Barrier + enforcement - even the earliest credible moves towards these - would see some dramatic changes occuring. Again, common sense, backed up by several real-world examples of states/localities changing the "temperature of the water" and the illegals reacting instantly.

And no, due to the OTHER, probably even more important, sort of lawlessness ravaging the country - the judicial kind - you cannot simply "switch off" the benefits magnets. Prop 187 was overturned by one judge employing now-typical absurd "reasoning", decades ago. Good luck imposing any sense or fairness on the situation now, when judicial tyranny is essentially unchecked. You'd have to change the entire welfare situation, not just that applying to illegals - mission extremely improbable.

Action is still possible to chip away on the edges - federal blackmail to end sanctuary cities and drivers' licenses and in-state tuition, for example - which will be helpful but is more on the restoring rule-of-law side of things. Border barrier + enforcement is the answer, and it would work, and it would work very well, and very easily.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2015 12:26 AM (QDnY+)

223 >>Russia did it.

Sure they did. You're also talking differnt folks. TFG & Harry Reid would be crossing guards at best in Russia

Until the financial part of this country burns, there is no eliminating or reducing the free shit. We can rid our tax payers going to an abortion mill PP

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 23, 2015 12:26 AM (3cgLL)

224 President Obama had tweeted about the case even before pictures of the so-called "clock" were publicly available.



Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2015 11:12 PM (NOIQH)



Un-fucking-believable.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:17 AM (4zDs/)

Because he is not a muslim, he is just on their side, on everything.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 23, 2015 12:26 AM (NaeCR)

225 And just totally OT, whomever (which I am sure there are many) countries which could mess with our EBT/SNAP system they could cause havoc in a day.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 23, 2015 12:28 AM (9jeGC)

226 I'm getting sick of the fine shit. The leaders of the company need to be personally libel and subject to jail time. This happens all the time with these big megacorps. They pay some "record fine", which is really peanuts to them, and keep on going.

One thing I recall is some banks getting caught laundering drug money. They just payed a fine. Ooooops, our bad, sorry, we won't do it again. We didn't mean to do it. Mistakes were made. When you consider the sums of money going to the drug cartels, it can't be all cash only. It's impossible. The banking system has to be involved, and it is.

And what do the cartels do with all that money? It gets reinvested, and back here. Hell, they call the Cayman Islands banking paradise the "Axis of Drugs", and they are one of the top holders of US Treasuries. That little dinky place holds a huge chunk of US debt.

El Chapo and his friends lend money back to Uncle, you see. And Uncle is really fine with that.

I know some people just don't want to hear this kind of shit, but believe me, the corruption at the top goes farther than you can believe.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 23, 2015 12:29 AM (dvuhZ)

227 "And they'd have to choose between food stamps or free meals at school,
because I have never understood why in the fuck they need both if little
Johnny is getting all three meals at school, plus food sent home for
the weekend, which is what they were doing in Cali when we left."

And I thought I'd seen it all. Never had come across the weekend school meals setup, though.

What I have seen are the schools opening up their cafeterias to serve meals to their student population _when school is out for vacation_, because apparently despite record high food stamp enrollment, the children aren't getting fed at home, and gee, wouldn't that be indicative of either massive fraud in the program, or massive parental neglect?

Posted by: torquewrench at September 23, 2015 12:29 AM (noWW6)

228 "Then there's
Intercourse PA which close to Blue Ball PA"

It's only about 20 miles from Climax, MN, to Cummings, ND.

Wear protection if you started 30 miles further up the road in Fertile.

Posted by: Mikeski at September 23, 2015 12:29 AM (TuMIP)

229 But I also know many people who own perfectly nice houses, in perfectly nice areas who make a killing. And it's not just ghetto trash who get Section 8, either.

I personally think that thing they passed a while back (or perhaps His Majesty just decreed it) about low income housing in fancy neighborhoods was probably lobbied for by people who know how to work that kind of thing and make bank on it.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:24 AM (4zDs/)

*****

I unfortunately know through the girlfriend a couple that combined clear over 100K and are still eligible for all assistance. They work in a mostly cash transportation business.

They actually talk and laugh about how us suckers are paying for them. After one afternoon on a boat with them, told GF never again. She apparently didn't even know.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 23, 2015 12:30 AM (TVzKw)

230 I am not sure why the Berlin Wall along our Southern border is so harsh sounding to some folks.

I lived 3 hours from the Mexican border for damn near 30 years and what I would like like to see is 2 Berlin style walls with a moat full of piranhas and those penis infiltrating eels in between.

Defended by nicotine-deprived Marines.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:30 AM (4zDs/)

231 Defended by nicotine-deprived Marines.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
------------------

But all of the coffee they care to drink.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2015 12:31 AM (9mTYi)

232 #188: Tammy, it's my view that Trump might betray us.

Meanwhile, the GOP as a whole has betrayed us, betrays us now, and will continue to betray us.

Under those circumstances, I'm happy to side with the guy who might betray us and is opposed by those proven betrayers with far more energy than they can muster to oppose the Democrats on anything.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Cruz 2016! at September 23, 2015 12:31 AM (wKc1L)

233 Chem, Zak!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:32 AM (4zDs/)

234 Russia did it.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 23, 2015 12:18 AM (NaeCR)


Well sure, Russia.

They've got mean, coldhearted, MANLY sumbitches running the place.

We've let women and pussy Libs take over here.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:33 AM (4zDs/)

235 >>Russia did it.



Sure they did. You're also talking differnt folks. TFG Harry Reid would be crossing guards at best in Russia



Until the financial part of this country burns, there is no
eliminating or reducing the free shit. We can rid our tax payers going
to an abortion mill PP

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 23, 2015 12:26 AM (3cgLL)

Until the financial part of this country burns... THAT is the point.

Russia did it.

I think most of the pols believe we are beyond the point of no return, so they party on.


Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 23, 2015 12:34 AM (NaeCR)

236 230 I am not sure why the Berlin Wall along our Southern border is so harsh sounding to some folks.

I lived 3 hours from the Mexican border for damn near 30 years and what I would like like to see is 2 Berlin style walls with a moat full of piranhas and those penis infiltrating eels in between.

Defended by nicotine-deprived Marines.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:30 AM (4zDs/)




Which is only slightly different from the border between Mexico and Guatemala. I know some legal immigrants from Guatemala, and talking to them will open your eyes about Mexican hypocrisy.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 12:34 AM (EzgxV)

237 "We are now at the point where, due to the failure of the opposition
party to oppose, to do any sort of basic political work, there is
literally no division of power in govt."

"Opposition" .... "party".

Your strange words confuse and frighten us!

Posted by: The Permanent Bipartisan Fusion Party at September 23, 2015 12:34 AM (noWW6)

238
Maet, didn't know that (about the COE renewal cost). My C and R is good for another 18 months. So I can still use the cost of the COE as another excuse NOT to get another M1 .....

Plus, my only C and R interests recently were handguns (unissued P-64s), which of course have to go through a regular FFL anyway, so the COE doesn't play.

And Burnt Toast, and the people you were answering, joining the CMP is fairly easy and being a vet is just one way. And firearm delivery details vary by state. The CMP is a congressionally chartered quasi-official operation, and has the authority to ship C and R long arms directly, subject to state restrictions of course. Most people in the US can still get CMP rifles delivered to their door.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2015 12:34 AM (QDnY+)

239 But all of the coffee they care to drink.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2015 12:31 AM (9mTYi)


And all the Gingers they'd care to .... oh never mind.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:34 AM (4zDs/)

240 Which would be cheaper: a. build a wall, b. eliminate ALL free stuff?
Which would keep more money in the treasury?
Which would allow the USA to lower taxes because of less expenditures?


Posted by: Ralph at September 23, 2015 12:35 AM (p/8Bt)

241 Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 12:34 AM (EzgxV)

Oh I know!

I have been saying for years, that all I ask for is Mexican immigration policies and European abortion laws.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:36 AM (4zDs/)

242 And all the Gingers they'd care to .... oh never mind.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:34 AM (4zDs/)

****

So close......

Come on, you can do it.....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 23, 2015 12:36 AM (TVzKw)

243 Just looked it up. As of July 2015, the "Caribbean Banking Centers", which is the US Treasury's official name for the Axis of Drugs, is the third largest holder of debt, behind China and Japan, and just above the Axis of Oil. (The Fed's monetized chunk doesn't count, but it would be number 1 of all them, actually). The sum is $325B.

Drugs hold more US Ts than Oil does

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 23, 2015 12:36 AM (dvuhZ)

244 Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Cruz 2016! at September 23, 2015 12:31 AM (wKc1L)

I hear ya. If we're gonna get bent over and abused, may as well try a new face.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:37 AM (4zDs/)

245 And all the Gingers they'd care to .... oh never mind.

You almost volunteered as tribute, didn't you?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 23, 2015 12:37 AM (YJmuy)

246 Burnt Toast I could get behind those ideas. Enforcement is the key.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 23, 2015 12:38 AM (3cgLL)

247 Hey everybody.

Have a FB friend who decided he would "play Nostradamus" tonight. Here's what he's predicting, IF what the FBI finds on Hillary's hard drives is damning.

1. Obama Admin will offer Hillary a choice: drop out, or be prosecuted.
2. She will also have to agree to endorse Biden.
3. If she complies, her FBI case never sees the light of day. Also, Obama will pardon her of anything and everything on 1/20/17.
4. She will take (be forced into) the deal, and be out by Christmas.
4.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 12:38 AM (ntObR)

248 Come on, you can do it.....
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 23, 2015 12:36 AM (TVzKw)


I'd risk getting banned if I thought it'd get the ONT back to being less Doomy and Gloomy!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:38 AM (4zDs/)

249 Oops, forgot to include #5:

A weary world rejoices. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 12:39 AM (ntObR)

250 I have been saying for years, that all I ask for is Mexican immigration policies and European abortion laws.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:36 AM (4zDs/)

***

Get a Drone Leftist talking about abortion laws, and then advocate for European style laws here.

They will clap like a seal, until you explain what that entails. No gains, but much fun to be had.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 23, 2015 12:39 AM (TVzKw)

251 247 Hey everybody.

Have a FB friend who decided he would "play Nostradamus" tonight. Here's what he's predicting, IF what the FBI finds on Hillary's hard drives is damning.

1. Obama Admin will offer Hillary a choice: drop out, or be prosecuted.
2. She will also have to agree to endorse Biden.
3. If she complies, her FBI case never sees the light of day. Also, Obama will pardon her of anything and everything on 1/20/17.
4. She will take (be forced into) the deal, and be out by Christmas.
4.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 12:38 AM (ntObR)




Meh. Pull the other one.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 12:39 AM (EzgxV)

252 Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 12:38 AM (ntObR)

Nothing is going to happen to her.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:39 AM (4zDs/)

253 (Yes, I think Biden would actually make a much better POTUS than Hillary. Go ahead and flame me to a crisp.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 12:39 AM (ntObR)

254
I am not sure why the Berlin Wall along our Southern border is so harsh sounding to some folks.





Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:30 AM (4zDs/)

Berlin Wall was to keep people in.

We need Hadrian's Wall.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 23, 2015 12:40 AM (NaeCR)

255 Tammy, not disagreeing.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 12:40 AM (ntObR)

256 Matheny said that though Good Judgment predictions have been extremely accurate on the questions they've asked so far, it's not clear that this process will work in every situation.

LOL. The CIA and our expensive intelligence community has been dead wrong in just about every important situation. They have long sucked at predictions of any sort. The only good that intelligence services do is spying. Not guessing the future but real, dirty spying - and the human kind is the most reliable.

Intelligence "analysts" are pretty much like political "analysts". Just a lot of overpaid bullshit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 23, 2015 12:41 AM (fwbYD)

257 cthulhu, heh.

I actually kind of hope that scenario would play out.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 12:41 AM (ntObR)

258 Let me rephrase that.... nothing will happen unless Obama really wants to fuck her over.

And I think he absolutely does, and that's the one reason (probably the ONLY reason) they might do something to her, BUT, they will need to make sure they're confident of winning the next election.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:42 AM (4zDs/)

259 I looked up that Priyanka chick.

Frankly, wasn't all that impressed. I could find 100,000 of those just wandering around DFW.

Posted by: Blano at September 23, 2015 12:42 AM (GA9gG)

260 At the same time, there's a part of me that thinks that Obama could have Hillary carted off in chains to the CIA's blackest of black op sites, set on fire, flayed alive, and drawn and quartered, and Hillary would *still* stay in the race.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 12:42 AM (ntObR)

261 Berlin Wall was to keep people in.

We need Hadrian's Wall.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 23, 2015 12:40 AM (NaeCR)


Without serious and intense interior enforcement no wall will make much of a difference. When it comes to illegals it's ALL about interior enforcement.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 23, 2015 12:43 AM (fwbYD)

262 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 23, 2015 12:39 AM (TVzKw)

Yep. It's a favorite past time of mine.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:43 AM (4zDs/)

263 248 Come on, you can do it.....
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 23, 2015 12:36 AM (TVzKw)

I'd risk getting banned if I thought it'd get the ONT back to being less Doomy and Gloomy!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:38 AM (4zDs/)




OK, I'll bite -- where are you at and what's happenin' there? How goes with Thor and has he had any triumphs lately that would be prudent to mention? Any births or marriages in the family, or cute things done by kids?

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 12:43 AM (EzgxV)

264 Hillary walks.

Posted by: Blano at September 23, 2015 12:43 AM (aeRWb)

265 Freaking auto cucumber.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:43 AM (4zDs/)

266 Hillary walks.

Only with her powered exoskeleton.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 23, 2015 12:44 AM (YJmuy)

267 Blanco, good point.

If anyone in American politics is really a T1000, it's Hillary.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 12:45 AM (ntObR)

268 Hillary walks.

Posted by: Blano at September 23, 2015 12:43 AM (aeRWb)


Weebles wobble.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 23, 2015 12:45 AM (fwbYD)

269
Ralph, the "savings" in terms of benefits and other costs from the instant and material reduction in illegals numbers resulting from any combo of enforcement and border fortification would dwarf any "costs" of those two items. Enforcement will represent very little additional expenditure - we're talking about enforcing existing laws with existing federal personnel and agencies.

ANY credible move towards ANY of the things people are talking about here - curtailing benefits, enforcing workplace and other laws, securing the border - would have dramatic effects. People don't seem to realize this. The illegals are rational actors. ALL the signals are currently green for illegal life in the US (shadows? the lines are so blurred that illegals, without exaggeration, now enjoy both de jure and de facto SUPERIOR treatment in many ways compared to normal legal citizens). Any of those signals turns yellow - credibly - and it's a whole different ball game.

Which is why amnesty and all its vile euphemisms - including "dream" nonsense - is so stupid and immoral. It constitutes a gigantic, strobe-enhanced, bright green light for increased illegal migration.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2015 12:45 AM (QDnY+)

270 Steve your view on choo choo boy is misplaced. He's a dangerous demagogue, evil and rotten to the core as much if not worse than Hillary

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 23, 2015 12:46 AM (3cgLL)

271 yeah kind of doom and gloomy tonight. not enough boobehs, or even kittehs.

it's been a long day, gonna call it a night folks. good night all

Posted by: chemjeff at September 23, 2015 12:46 AM (uZNvH)

272 I'd risk getting banned if I thought it'd get the ONT back to being less Doomy and Gloomy!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:38 AM (4zDs/)

****

We're at dark humor time, plus drunk ONTers and stuff.

These days seems like daytime is a great time to get banhammered. Why anyone would poke HappyFunAce when he is merrily swinging the Hammer is beyond me.

Anyhoo, anytime you wanna risk it, rest assured there is an active audience for such.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 23, 2015 12:46 AM (TVzKw)

273 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 23, 2015 12:43 AM (fwbYD)

Agree, but a wall can't hurt, either.

They also need to only let so many in and out each day at the legal crossings. Now THAT would be a colossal pain in the ass, but by far most of them just walk right through the main check points.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:46 AM (4zDs/)

274 #244: Well, that's not quite my position. My position is that Trump might betray us, but he also might not.

I'll take "might not betray us" over "has betrayed us, betrays us now and will always betray us in the future" anyday.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Cruz 2016! at September 23, 2015 12:47 AM (wKc1L)

275 "How close is Intercourse to the Hershey Highway?"

T'ain't far.

Posted by: tsj017 at September 23, 2015 12:47 AM (idmVd)

276 Speaking of collapse, I've seen stuff over the past few days that indicate Deutsche Bank is on the road to becoming the next Lehman Brothers. Since I know nothing about that kind of finance, I cannot tell how much of what I've read is mere hyperbole or of its close to the truth.

Time will tell, though.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 23, 2015 12:47 AM (wZ2hu)

277 MH, you could be right on that as well.

I've just read too many stories that while Obama can barely get his own staffers to be friendly with him, Biden has tons of friends to this day on both sides of the aisle. Not that that proves anything, just saying.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 12:47 AM (ntObR)

278 Without serious and intense interior enforcement no
wall will make much of a difference. When it comes to illegals it's
ALL about interior enforcement.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 23, 2015 12:43 AM (fwbYD)

I agree and said above that if hiring illegals was treated with the same severity as selling alcohol to minors (same level of evidence), benefits, etc.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 23, 2015 12:47 AM (NaeCR)

279 Hillary walks.

Posted by: Blano at September 23, 2015 12:43 AM (aeRWb)

Weebles wobble.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 23, 2015 12:45 AM (fwbYD)


And neither will fall down.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:48 AM (4zDs/)

280 269
Ralph, the "savings" in terms of benefits and other costs from the instant and material reduction in illegals numbers resulting from any combo of enforcement and border fortification would dwarf any "costs" of those two items. Enforcement will represent very little additional expenditure - we're talking about enforcing existing laws with existing federal personnel and agencies.

ANY credible move towards ANY of the things people are talking about here - curtailing benefits, enforcing workplace and other laws, securing the border - would have dramatic effects. People don't seem to realize this. The illegals are rational actors. ALL the signals are currently green for illegal life in the US (shadows? the lines are so blurred that illegals, without exaggeration, now enjoy both de jure and de facto SUPERIOR treatment in many ways compared to normal legal citizens). Any of those signals turns yellow - credibly - and it's a whole different ball game.

Which is why amnesty and all its vile euphemisms - including "dream" nonsense - is so stupid and immoral. It constitutes a gigantic, strobe-enhanced, bright green light for increased illegal migration.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2015 12:45 AM (QDnY+)




Reports are that all you have to say to avoid a ticket is "no hablo ingles" if you look the part. If you say, "I'm a taxpayer", you get fucked.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 12:48 AM (EzgxV)

281 Just randomness from above: the Mexican government and the billionaire owners of its (open, non-drug) business cartels make huge bank from remittances - they will scream bloody murder if that system is threatened.

They take a cut of money sent back, they take a cut of calls made through their corrupt phone empire.

Why do you think they're so eager to have a third of the country working in the US? They get a cut of it.

It's corruption and greed, all the way down. Do the candidates point this out on a daily basis? Nope.

Posted by: Popular Front for the Liberation of Willow (not a Nazgul) at September 23, 2015 12:49 AM (bLnSU)

282 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 23, 2015 12:46 AM (TVzKw)

I tend to get a little crazy at the Full moon and I am told there's a mighty one on tap for Friday?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:50 AM (4zDs/)

283 "How close is Intercourse to the Hershey Highway?"



T'ain't far.

Posted by: tsj017 at September 23, 2015 12:47 AM (idmVd)

Holds up hand with thumb and finger almost touching....

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 23, 2015 12:50 AM (NaeCR)

284 So, uh, gingers are sort of a big deal around here, huh?

Hey, ladies! I happen to be a ginger...

What? That only works in one direction on the male/female axis?

Damn it... Forever alone...

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Cruz 2016! at September 23, 2015 12:50 AM (wKc1L)

285 When it's all said & done. For me, God is in charge. Pols are just fleeting stars.
Good night Horde.
Be well

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 23, 2015 12:50 AM (3cgLL)

286 And neither will fall down.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:48 AM (4zDs/)


Shrillary is the Insane Clown Posse Weeble. Cankles of Concrete.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 23, 2015 12:50 AM (fwbYD)

287 And neither will fall down.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:48 AM (4zDs/)

*****

GrandMonster already has, multiple times.

Time for Valerie to end it for her.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 23, 2015 12:51 AM (TVzKw)

288 Matheny said that though Good Judgment predictions have been extremely accurate on the questions they've asked so far,..
-----------------------

Interesting. It suggests that the 60% who think Obamacare is a bad idea might have the correct perspective, as opposed to, say, Jon Gruber.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2015 12:51 AM (9mTYi)

289 Posted by: Popular Front for the Liberation of Willow (not a Nazgul) at September 23, 2015 12:49 AM (bLnSU)

Exactly.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:51 AM (4zDs/)

290 Night MH

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2015 12:52 AM (9mTYi)

291 MH, true.

It helps to remember, not everyone in government is an Obama, a Boehner or a Biden.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 12:52 AM (ntObR)

292 276: The entire Euro banking system is, how did that Zapp Branigan line go? If you hit that bulls eye the entire house of cards will come down like dominoes.

Hell, if you think our banking system is a fucked up house of cards, which it is, Euroland is even worse. The total leverage, all hidden in all sorts of off-balance sheet games is unreal.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 23, 2015 12:52 AM (dvuhZ)

293 Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Cruz 2016! at September 23, 2015 12:50 AM (wKc1L)

Hey now, us gingers gotta stick together!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:53 AM (4zDs/)

294 When you allows `em to take your money and then give it back, you have lost the game. (simplified, I know).
Local government is gone in most places because of dependency upon state and federal monies granted back to the same ones that forfeited it to them. It`s happening right now in my lil` ol` 3 redlight 3 school county in Florida. cheese cheese cheese get some commodity.

Posted by: rightlysouthern-aim low boys they`re ridin shetland ponies at September 23, 2015 12:53 AM (uyObz)

295 Socks.

As to Biden, he's a creeper thug. He plays dumb until he thinks the camera's not on him, then he tries to intimidate people.

He's just a really rotton, manipulative person, who skates on Democratium and his reputation for being an idiot.

What the 2012 VP debate really proved to me was that the Dem *audience* were stupid and corrupt to say that interrupting and shouting and flailing was "winning" so much as it was an elderly man having a temper tantrum.

And remember, if you get scared, fire a shotgun through your door without establishing target ID. That's safer than them thar scary rifles.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 23, 2015 12:55 AM (bLnSU)

296 I tend to get a little crazy at the Full moon and I am told there's a mighty one on tap for Friday?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
------------------

Yes... and no. I mean, if it is 100% in shadow.

Headed for Hatteras, hoping we have clear skies on Sat. night.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2015 12:55 AM (9mTYi)

297
torque if you're still around (and others) - so a few months ago I went to a neighborhood meeting, mostly out of interest over what's being done about vagrancy/partying/disorder problems on state university land nearby (university didn't even send a representative, which accurately sums up the attitude of state institutions towards, you know, actual residents of the state, but that's another story).

Local do-nothing, drone, pathetic Dem congresswoman's office sends a rep. The two things she thought worth mentioning to the gathering: if you want some federal $$$$ from an arts/culture grant-making festival coming up, please contact us to get your application in order (!); and .... she described how the congresswoman is working hard to "fight hunger in our community".

Face-palm. Hunger. With more welfare programs than can probably be mapped on a chart - and the schools, as torque noted, now becoming f***king supplemental feeding centers, even during the summer, and obesity a major problem in the targeted "communities"- they wanted us to know they were on top of the "hunger" problem.

Sorry for the doom/gloom. But gawd. And of course, the idiot drones who are my neighbors thought nothing of it, this surreal little presentation just passed unremarked upon.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2015 12:55 AM (QDnY+)

298 I tend to get a little crazy at the Full moon and I am told there's a mighty one on tap for Friday?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:50 AM (4zDs/)

*****

*Clears schedule from 11:00 p.m. to 3:00 a.m. Friday night/Saturday morning*

Maet, can we have an advance ruling on this?



Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 23, 2015 12:55 AM (TVzKw)

299 Merovign, you make him sound like LBJ. ;-)

(And no, I am *not* a fan of Lyndon's either.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 12:56 AM (ntObR)

300 Here is where I want President JR Ewing. Just imagine him deciding to fuck over the global financial elite, using all the tools available to the US Treasury. He could make Mexico pay for the wall.

A ruthless SOB who knew just how to hurt 'em, and how to make them play ball, giving him what he wants, just to save some of what they still have.

Back during Operation Wetback, '54 or whenever, they had the cooperation of the Mexican government. They didn't want their work force leaving for another country.

JR could make 'em play ball again.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 23, 2015 12:56 AM (dvuhZ)

301 So, uh, gingers are sort of a big deal around here, huh?

Hey, ladies! I happen to be a ginger...

What? That only works in one direction on the male/female axis?

Damn it... Forever alone...
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Cruz 2016! at September 23, 2015 12:50 AM (wKc1L)


Howdy PW, how goes it? And folks he is a ginger.

Posted by: rightlysouthern-aim low boys they`re ridin shetland ponies at September 23, 2015 12:58 AM (uyObz)

302 #293: Oh, I'm not disagreeing with you on that. Ginger power!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Cruz 2016! at September 23, 2015 12:59 AM (wKc1L)

303 When someone promises to rip off the other guy and pass the savings on to you, *you're* the other guy.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 23, 2015 12:59 AM (bLnSU)

304 Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 12:43 AM (EzgxV)

Things are stable and calm and rather boring, but I'll take it!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:59 AM (4zDs/)

305 #301: Good to hear from you, RS! How've you been?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Cruz 2016! at September 23, 2015 01:00 AM (wKc1L)

306 I want to kill the asshole who decided to put the Rangers in the AL West.

Posted by: Lauren at September 23, 2015 01:00 AM (LzzEz)

307 Things are stable and calm and rather boring, but I'll take it!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:59 AM (4zDs/)

******

Took me a long time to learn that all that is a good thing in ones day by day life.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 23, 2015 01:01 AM (TVzKw)

308 In local news, popular hipster douche coffee shop shut down by protesters after owners are discovered to have been posting stories and podcasts of their sexual exploits with customers. They are currently trying to buy an indulgence by contributing to a rape crisis center, and groveling, but mostly groveling.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/nsycafg

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2015 01:02 AM (9mTYi)

309 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2015 01:02 AM (9mTYi)

****

Live by the SJW credo, die by same.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 23, 2015 01:04 AM (TVzKw)

310 Back in 2009, I may or may not have bought a CMP M1 which may or may not have been a mid-50s Springfield in pristine condition, which I then may or may not have lost in a tragic canoe accident.

It's hard to say.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2015 01:04 AM (sdi6R)

311 Took me a long time to learn that all that is a good thing in ones day by day life.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 23, 2015 01:01 AM (TVzKw)


Agree! I have always preferred stable and calm, which is why I married the man. But he still puts in 15 hours days, 6 days a week more often than not. And yes, he's at home, but it is still VERY boring!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 01:05 AM (4zDs/)

312 Heh, Pic of the folk protesting outside of the (now closed) shop

http://preview.tinyurl.com/pmjq78u

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2015 01:07 AM (9mTYi)

313 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2015 01:02 AM (9mTYi)

Huh. Most of the hipsters I have observed in the wild don't look like they're capable of having sex.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 01:07 AM (4zDs/)

314 Making do PW making do. Miss looking up at the mountains every morning, and going up in them every now and then.

Dadgummit after 6 years out there I had forgotten how damn HOT it is here till November.

Posted by: rightlysouthern-aim low boys they`re ridin shetland ponies at September 23, 2015 01:07 AM (uyObz)

315 Agree! I have always preferred stable and calm, which is why I married the man. But he still puts in 15 hours days, 6 days a week more often than not. And yes, he's at home, but it is still VERY boring!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 01:05 AM (4zDs/)

****

I can see that. No one ever died wishing they spent more time at work. Took me a long time to learn that one too.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 23, 2015 01:07 AM (TVzKw)

316 *eyes thermometer*

61 deg. now
Mid 50's overnight.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2015 01:11 AM (9mTYi)

317 I see India is still bitter about the Rosie O'Donell incident.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 23, 2015 01:12 AM (IdCqF)

318 Heh, Pic of the folk protesting outside of the (now closed) shop

http://preview.tinyurl.com/pmjq78u
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.


Real classy sign on the left.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 23, 2015 01:13 AM (W5DcG)

319 >>>There is not a soul in this country besides me who would immediately eliminate all welfare, free meals at school, food stamps, Section 8, etc etc etc , and that's what you'd have to do.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September
---
I'd be willing to try that. Charity should come from willing individuals. Those individuals would demand some accountability.

Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 23, 2015 01:13 AM (eg4Vl)

320 #314: Yeah, I definitely don't miss the humid heat from back east.

Oh, and in response to your earlier question, I'm doing well, thanks! I switched departments at work recently, and the change has been good to me.

I had reason to fear for my continued employment in my old position, so when I was offered a lateral move to a more secure job, I jumped on it.

I'm enjoying the new job, too! It's less solitary, and my new coworkers are a fun bunch.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Cruz 2016! at September 23, 2015 01:14 AM (wKc1L)

321 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2015 01:02 AM (9mTYi)

It is astonishing to me how shocked people are about the things guys say about sex.

I don't care that they're being shut down; you buys your ticket and you takes your chances.

But I was expecting something really rank. That was like a mediocre ONT in the Olden Days.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 01:14 AM (4zDs/)

322 I wish I could eye that Mike. 90`s on the morrow.

Posted by: rightlysouthern-aim low boys they`re ridin shetland ponies at September 23, 2015 01:15 AM (uyObz)

323 I see India is still bitter about the Rosie O'Donell incident.

Posted by: Epobirs


All we have to do is stay up until 21:00 to see pissed off Indians.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 23, 2015 01:15 AM (JmGFJ)

324 Epo!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 01:17 AM (4zDs/)

325 I'm trying to decide if I have been to that coffee place. The greezy looking bro with the 'stache looks familiar to me, but he also kinda lokks like Johnny Depp.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 01:18 AM (4zDs/)

326 >>>Nassau County, NY Is So Anti-Gun That District Attorneys Are Banned From Even Owning Personal Handguns


I live in Nassau. So what you're saying is that I shouldn't even bother. Thanks for the info. I thought as much.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 23, 2015 01:18 AM (8Qx8I)

327 Good for you PW, as an elderly friend from down here used to say to me, wish you many happy happies,

Posted by: rightlysouthern-aim low boys they`re ridin shetland ponies at September 23, 2015 01:19 AM (uyObz)

328 #326: That comment is sort of comical in conjunction with your chosen handle. Calls to mind a scene from Full Metal Jacket... "This is my rifle, this is my gun! This one's for shooting and this one's for fun!"

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Cruz 2016! at September 23, 2015 01:20 AM (wKc1L)

329 first !!

Posted by: Jake at September 23, 2015 01:21 AM (v1iGi)

330 >>>Tonight's post brought to you by no carpet munching

Ich kann nicht die karpetgemuncht???

scheiss...

Posted by: Lesbian Adolfa Hitler at September 23, 2015 01:22 AM (8Qx8I)

331 #327: Thanks, RS! And the same to you! I hope you can make it to another meet-up around here sometime.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Cruz 2016! at September 23, 2015 01:22 AM (wKc1L)

332 Night all.

Here is "Iron Swan" by The Sword:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTYrAF0wi8g

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 23, 2015 01:22 AM (vBeA5)

333 You missed it by THAT much, Jake!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 01:22 AM (4zDs/)

334 Changing save tags.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 23, 2015 01:22 AM (TVzKw)

335 304 Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 12:43 AM (EzgxV)

Things are stable and calm and rather boring, but I'll take it!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 12:59 AM (4zDs/)



For a touch of good news here in Casa de Cthulhu, I went in for a new CPAP mask fitting -- the flavor I'd been using the last 6 years is about to be discontinued, so I'm "getting with the program". In addition, the heatwave we've been having since the weekend has broken and it should be relatively nice outside tomorrow.......which is a seriously good thing because the outdoors is totally overgrown and needs pruning.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 01:23 AM (EzgxV)

336 Well now, I hear the husband coming upstairs, so I shall call it a night.

jc and Berserker, if you're lurking.... hello!

Everyone else, sleep sweet!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September 23, 2015 01:24 AM (4zDs/)

337 hey all

Posted by: thathalfrican at September 23, 2015 01:24 AM (R5HRU)

338 Good night, Tammy!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Cruz 2016! at September 23, 2015 01:24 AM (wKc1L)

339 I'm trying to decide if I have been to that coffee place. The greezy looking bro with the 'stache looks familiar to me, but he also kinda lokks like Johnny Depp.
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They've only been open a year or so.

Their published 'apology' is Clintonesque:

"We're going to close for the next couple days so we can have some room for introspection. We want to allow ourselves to be accountable to our friends, family, employees, clergy, and counselors for our actions, and give ourselves room to be silent and reflect. These attitudes were not grown in a day, and they will not be destroyed in a day. We want to humbly commit to that process. We're not good people, but we want to be."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2015 01:25 AM (9mTYi)

340 "This is my rifle, this is my gun! This one's for shooting and this one's for fun!"
Posted by:áProthonotary Warbler... Trump/Cruz 2016!áat September 23, 2015 01:20 AM (wKc1L)

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They'll have to pry it from my cold, dead pants.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 23, 2015 01:25 AM (8Qx8I)

341 That was damn funny rat now Jake.

PW I`m gone git back out there to visit around July or a little later.

Posted by: rightlysouthern-aim low boys they`re ridin shetland ponies at September 23, 2015 01:26 AM (uyObz)

342 Tammy !!

Posted by: Jake at September 23, 2015 01:26 AM (v1iGi)

343 Night Tammy,

Posted by: rightlysouthern-aim low boys they`re ridin shetland ponies at September 23, 2015 01:28 AM (uyObz)

344 This game better be over by 1...

Posted by: Lauren at September 23, 2015 01:30 AM (bYGAR)

345 Excellent collection of article, Maet. Thanks.

I am simply a name on Facebook. I haven't actually made any posts. nor would I want to because of this sort of thing, the insane anonymous mobs who are evil. They're calling a little boy "spawn" because his father dares to be a butcher?!! This sort of thing turns people into conservatives. Too bad tit takes this and takes too long for enough people to become conservatives.

So Obama and Biden were both running late for the Pope? Were they together? In could just be a coincidence., I suppose but In Obama's case he's a petty narcissist. I wouldn't be surprised if keeping the Pope waiting weren't deliberate,. Another action against Christians. I also knew a woman who arrived late regularly to things because she was an actress and liked the attention. If it was not just a simple error it was rude either way on the part of the boy King.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 01:31 AM (1+XCd)

346 #341: Cool! Be sure you let Emmie know. I'll mention it to her, too. Maybe we can plan a meet-up around that time.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Cruz 2016! at September 23, 2015 01:31 AM (wKc1L)

347 I tip my hat and say
Strangers pass by

Good night yall.

Posted by: rightlysouthern-aim low boys they`re ridin shetland ponies at September 23, 2015 01:31 AM (uyObz)

348 out
off to watch Rocky 2

Posted by: Jake at September 23, 2015 01:33 AM (v1iGi)

349 10-4 PW

Posted by: rightlysouthern-aim low boys they`re ridin shetland ponies at September 23, 2015 01:34 AM (uyObz)

350 Good night, everyone!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Cruz 2016! at September 23, 2015 01:35 AM (wKc1L)

351 345 Excellent collection of article, Maet. Thanks.

I am simply a name on Facebook. I haven't actually made any posts. nor would I want to because of this sort of thing, the insane anonymous mobs who are evil. They're calling a little boy "spawn" because his father dares to be a butcher?!! This sort of thing turns people into conservatives. Too bad tit takes this and takes too long for enough people to become conservatives.

So Obama and Biden were both running late for the Pope? Were they together? In could just be a coincidence., I suppose but In Obama's case he's a petty narcissist. I wouldn't be surprised if keeping the Pope waiting weren't deliberate,. Another action against Christians. I also knew a woman who arrived late regularly to things because she was an actress and liked the attention. If it was not just a simple error it was rude either way on the part of the boy King.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 01:31 AM (1+XCd)




SOCKING A REGULAR

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 01:36 AM (EzgxV)

352 319 >>>There is not a soul in this country besides me who would immediately eliminate all welfare, free meals at school, food stamps, Section 8, etc etc etc , and that's what you'd have to do.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September
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By the way, I notice that people who favor reducing or eliminating entitlements are usually the ones who give generously to those in need, while those who want to expand entitlements seldom give, if at all.

Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 23, 2015 01:37 AM (eg4Vl)

353 352 319 >>>There is not a soul in this country besides me who would immediately eliminate all welfare, free meals at school, food stamps, Section 8, etc etc etc , and that's what you'd have to do.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September
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By the way, I notice that people who favor reducing or eliminating entitlements are usually the ones who give generously to those in need, while those who want to expand entitlements seldom give, if at all.

Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 23, 2015 01:37 AM (eg4Vl)



Yeah, funny that.....

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 01:38 AM (EzgxV)

354 >>>346 #341: Cool! Be sure you let Emmie know. I'll mention it to her, too. Maybe we can plan a meet-up around that time.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Trump/Cruz 2016! at September 23, 2015 01:31 AM (wKc1L)
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*makes a note in calendar*

Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 23, 2015 01:39 AM (eg4Vl)

355 353 352 319 >>>There is not a soul in this country besides me who would immediately eliminate all welfare, free meals at school, food stamps, Section 8, etc etc etc , and that's what you'd have to do.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at September
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By the way, I notice that people who favor reducing or eliminating entitlements are usually the ones who give generously to those in need, while those who want to expand entitlements seldom give, if at all.

Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 23, 2015 01:37 AM (eg4Vl)



Yeah, funny that.....

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 01:38 AM (EzgxV)




And, BTW, my name's on a plaque on the wing of a local institution.....that I no longer support because of their global warming BS.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 01:40 AM (EzgxV)

356 Love the leopard pic, but I'm surprised there hasn't been a 24/7 media freakout about it from our neo-Puritans. Or maybe there has been and I just missed it.

What would be interesting is if at the presidential debate if Hillary or the moderator would display a blown up version of that picture and say, "Mr. Trump, are these your sons??!?!"

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 23, 2015 01:40 AM (8Qx8I)

357 I'm a horrible baseball jinx.

Posted by: Lauren at September 23, 2015 01:41 AM (LzzEz)

358 Cthulhu, I also thought comment 345 didn't sound like our FS.

Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 23, 2015 01:43 AM (eg4Vl)

359 Wait, you can be a predator by giving a woman coffee - to make her more alert?

Posted by: Jean at September 23, 2015 01:43 AM (ztOda)

360 BTW, has anyone seen Chi or SMFH today? Have they managed to achieve their quota of miniature golf?

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 01:43 AM (EzgxV)

361 Also, is Ahmed just going to wear that damn NASA shirt for all eternity now?

Posted by: Lauren at September 23, 2015 01:44 AM (LzzEz)

362 There is not a soul in this country besides me who would immediately eliminate all welfare, free meals at school, food stamps, Section 8, etc etc etc , and that's what you'd have to do.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor

That, end withholding, and landmines on the borders ...

Posted by: Jean at September 23, 2015 01:45 AM (ztOda)

363 "they wanted us to know they were on top of the 'hunger' problem"

Just tuning around on the radio dial, you can be treated to Ad Council PSAs about how "one in five children in America suffers from hunger" and "what you can do to help".

Of course these PSAs say nothing about the exorbitant amount of spending on government food aid already. Nor do they give an actual definition of "hunger".

So, yeah, with a populace being bombarded by this sort of Soviet state messaging, little wonder that Congresscritters are rushing to assure their constituents that everything possible is being done to "solve" this problem.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 23, 2015 01:46 AM (noWW6)

364 358 Cthulhu, I also thought comment 345 didn't sound like our FS.

Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 23, 2015 01:43 AM (eg4Vl)



It's not -- it's someone probing the rules. There is an absolute rule against socking regulars -- it's a good rule, and it should be ruthlessly enforced. And @345 is a clear violation.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 01:46 AM (EzgxV)

365 355 Cthulhu, are the statists ever going to give up pushing climate change? I've had quite enough of that baloney. Isn't there some other bogeyman they can switch to for variety?

Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 23, 2015 01:47 AM (eg4Vl)

366 I understand Ocean Acidification and/or Frankenfood are on deck.

Posted by: Jean at September 23, 2015 01:48 AM (ztOda)

367 Pope Francis: wassa matta with thissa jug ears guy???

Benjamin Netanyahu: I know! It's like going to the DMV. At least he didn't called you chickenshit.

Francis: And wass up with these priest inna the rainbow cassock and assless chaps?

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 23, 2015 01:50 AM (8Qx8I)

368 SOCKING A REGULAR

No sock, That really is me. It have mentioned that I thought Onama was a narcissist before. What surprises you about my post?. If the tone is little sharper than normal or the post more poorly written than normal it's possibly because Ive gotten about six hours of sleep in three days.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 01:50 AM (1+XCd)

369 Jean, ocean acidification is perfect! It has to be something humankind really can't control, but somehow government is big enough and powerful enough to fix it with just a little bit of confiscated freedom.

Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 23, 2015 01:51 AM (eg4Vl)

370 It's not -- it's someone probing the rules. There is an absolute rule against socking regulars -- it's a good rule, and it should be ruthlessly enforced. And @345 is a clear violation.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 01:46 AM (EzgxV)


?? This is the same hash that FS has been using for days now.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 23, 2015 01:53 AM (wqVD1)

371 FenelonSpoke, sorry to hear you aren't getting sleep! Hope the situation improves!

Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 23, 2015 01:53 AM (eg4Vl)

372
Several years ago. Took the now-wife who was visiting to an aquarium - it's affiliated with a very famous oceanographic institute. Great jellyfish display - wild black and bright colored ones I'd never seen or heard of. Other good stuff.

Then as we approached the other main exhibition area, my alarms started going off. Up above just inside the hall was a large sign with a nearly hysterical bit of prose about "ocean acidification". Oh boy, here we go. Don't recall spending too much time looking through the exhibit, but did some, of course applying those now-forbidden tools, logic and common sense, which naturally led to questions at odds with the conclusively stated assertions salting the exhibit.

And I clearly remember saying to my now-wife something along the lines of "well this must be the back-up, as the climate thing just keeps getting more and more ridiculous and less credible".

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2015 01:54 AM (QDnY+)

373 And, BTW, my name's on a plaque on the wing of a local institution.....that I no longer support because of their global warming BS.

Posted by: cthulhu


It's truly an honor, Mr. GLOWASS.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 23, 2015 01:55 AM (JmGFJ)

374 Thanks, Emmie. I appreciate that; It's a symptom of a chronic condition illness I deal with.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 01:55 AM (1+XCd)

375 Here is where I want President JR Ewing. Just imagine him deciding to fuck over the global financial elite, using all the tools available to the US Treasury. He could make Mexico pay for the wall.

Even as a comedic version of Dallas it wouldn't work as a TV show. Too unrealistic.

Maybe a dystopian Sci-Fi miniseries.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 23, 2015 01:56 AM (X9Mnx)

376 365 355 Cthulhu, are the statists ever going to give up pushing climate change? I've had quite enough of that baloney. Isn't there some other bogeyman they can switch to for variety?

Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 23, 2015 01:47 AM (eg4Vl)



They will say whatever they think they have to say to gain absolute power. They will use any excuse, however flimsy, and push it past the point of being ridiculous.



The reaction really needs to be "whatever the problem, if the solution is more government control -- the advocates and proponents of such solutions need to be ridiculed, stripped of power, impoverished, and exiled." Sadly, the mass of entrenched bureaucrats tend to disfavor this option.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 01:56 AM (EzgxV)

377 The oceans are basically lined with calcium deposits; so its going to take a lot of acid to unbuffer the sea. Even if it were happening, which we can't actual measure, it would take a millenia to make a difference and I believe marine life has adapted to changes before.

Posted by: Jean at September 23, 2015 01:56 AM (ztOda)

378 I think I will consider sending the butcher is WA a donation. Isn't WA tone of the states where a bakery was targeted because they refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 01:58 AM (1+XCd)

379 368 SOCKING A REGULAR

No sock, That really is me. It have mentioned that I thought Onama was a narcissist before. What surprises you about my post?. If the tone is little sharper than normal or the post more poorly written than normal it's possibly because Ive gotten about six hours of sleep in three days.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 01:50 AM (1+XCd)



Even when I'm drunk or sleepy, I sound like me. That didn't sound like FenelonSpoke. Convince me.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 01:59 AM (EzgxV)

380 So...Politico has more details on the Clinton emails, Gabe has a link to it in his Twitter.

Some damn thing about emails to The Clinton Foundation and connections to Bill and something known as Teneo Holdings.

Posted by: Fatman at September 23, 2015 02:01 AM (mcm0N)

381 370 It's not -- it's someone probing the rules. There is an absolute rule against socking regulars -- it's a good rule, and it should be ruthlessly enforced. And @345 is a clear violation.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 01:46 AM (EzgxV)

?? This is the same hash that FS has been using for days now.

Posted by: Maetenloch at September 23, 2015 01:53 AM (wqVD1)



I'm willing to be convinced....and especially with your input -- but that didn't sound right.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 02:01 AM (EzgxV)

382 373 And, BTW, my name's on a plaque on the wing of a local institution.....that I no longer support because of their global warming BS.

Posted by: cthulhu

It's truly an honor, Mr. GLOWASS.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 23, 2015 01:55 AM (JmGFJ)




OK, I'm not really clear where this is coming from at all. Any hints?

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 02:03 AM (EzgxV)

383 So here's a story I can't tell after I invite friends/family to this blog:

Future son-in-law (religion: evangelical totalitarianism) meets my sister-in-law, whose job description includes indoctrinating school children about climate change. She mentions climate change; he enthusiastically agrees something must be done!!!1!!1!!!!1! I say, "Or you could just wait for global cooling to return like it did in the 70s." Eyerolls all around; everyone knows deniers are purposely obtuse.

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2015 02:04 AM (eg4Vl)

384 Anybody ever watch that Palladia network? They have a doc about Eric Clapton on. Its ok. About last years concert tour through the middle east and asia. He's 70 and still sounds pretty good.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 23, 2015 02:05 AM (NGd+i)

385 On going to the plane article it says the Pope came earlier from Cuba than expected and that Obama and Biden greeted him on time, so apparently I was wrong about Obama. I still think he's a petty narcissist. It this particular case he wasn't being one so I apologize.

Vendette reported earlier that there is no state dinner for the Pope although the head of China had one, just a big meet and greet on the WH lawn, apparently with church dissidents among them. What I'd like to know is who are the other guests, because I would hope they're not all church dissidents?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 02:06 AM (1+XCd)

386
Emmie, well put (about ocean acidification).

And this just underlines how bad things are. At least in the US, Canada, and western Europe, there is now a fully weaponized pseudo-science/social engineering complex, fanatically devoted to controlling all human activity and mostly in control of both academia and govt., with an enthusiastic Ministry of Information in the form of pop culture. Sure - the public's not buying it - but so what? The link between popular consent/desires and govt. action is rather obviously broken at the federal level.

Do the brazen, and not very clever, distortions of climate data, and the equally brazen lawlessness of the govt. warriors (like successive EPA administrators), reflect desperation? Or confidence, and the effective end of opposition?

It's only one data point, but it's a doozy, that leads me to the pessimistic side. The Senate majority leader is from a coal state. The coal industry and its best customer the power-generation sector, for no good reason, are being essentially destroyed by federal edicts.

This situation has no analogue I can think of. It is a literally unbelievable inversion of normal (and proper) Washington power dynamics. I can't come up with an analogy to emphasize the point - the real situation is more dramatic and hard to believe than any hypothetical. (and standard-issue observations about McConnell's fecklessness, GOP weakness etc. don't play here - this is a direct assault on a major economic interest of the majority leader's state). Things like this make me think many underestimate how far down the road we are.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2015 02:06 AM (QDnY+)

387 religion: evangelical totalitarianism

LOL. That's a good term.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 02:07 AM (1+XCd)

388 FenelonSpoke, somehow I missed the story of the butcher you are referring to.

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2015 02:07 AM (eg4Vl)

389 383 So here's a story I can't tell after I invite friends/family to this blog:

Future son-in-law (religion: evangelical totalitarianism) meets my sister-in-law, whose job description includes indoctrinating school children about climate change. She mentions climate change; he enthusiastically agrees something must be done!!!1!!1!!!!1! I say, "Or you could just wait for global cooling to return like it did in the 70s." Eyerolls all around; everyone knows deniers are purposely obtuse.
Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2015 02:04 AM (eg4Vl)


Heh.

Since people like that are impervious to logic, reason, and history, the only other alternative is unremitting mockery.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2015 02:09 AM (sdi6R)

390 So just started watching the Muppets. Apparently they're doing it as a sort of "The Office" type behind the scenes documentary of a tv show?

Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2015 02:09 AM (zt+N6)

391 Since people like that are impervious to logic, reason, and history, the only other alternative is unremitting mockery.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2015 02:09 AM (sdi6R)

Pretty much. And while most people think that's Alinsky tactics, he stole that part of his book almost verbatim from Mark Twain's "The Mysterious Stranger", so hey. It's as American as apple pie. If people are being stupid, point and laugh.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 23, 2015 02:11 AM (J+mig)

392 I'm willing to be convinced....and especially with your input -- but that didn't sound right.

Why? It's nothing out of keeping with anything else I've said before about Obama on numerous threads. Do I think Christians should pray for him-that he needs spiritual and emotional healing, that he has no God but himself? I've also said that I don't use Facebook before and I've deplored internet mobs. Maybe you think it sounds different because I'm not always affected by insomnia and consequently not here late at night.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 02:12 AM (1+XCd)

393 >>>387 religion: evangelical totalitarianism

LOL. That's a good term.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 02:07 AM (1+XCd)
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I finally got a chance to ask my stepdaughter about his belief that conservatives ought to be harassed by the government. Apparently I just need to understand that he's really passionate about his beliefs. Yeah, so when he turns us over to the government, at least he really means it!

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2015 02:12 AM (eg4Vl)

394 Emmie

Is your future son-on-law a nice, responsible guy except for being a evangelical totalitarian? I hope so-that he genuinely loves your daughter but just needs a political conversion, and those are always possible. I had one. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 02:14 AM (1+XCd)

395 Apparently I just need to understand that he's
really passionate about his beliefs. Yeah, so when he turns us over to
the government, at least he really means it!

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2015 02:12 AM (eg4Vl)

Being passionate about being a monster is not a good quality. Unfortunately, her education seems to have missed that little detail somehow.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 23, 2015 02:14 AM (J+mig)

396 I finally got a chance to ask my stepdaughter about his belief that conservatives ought to be harassed by the government.

Not a nice guy, I see. Is your daughter on the left side of the political spectrum too?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 02:16 AM (1+XCd)

397
Emmie, I admit I'm puzzled.

Why would you want such people to join the Horde? By your description they don't have the tools to even benefit from exposure to the HQ.

Besides, they sound like the typical sort, long on passion and micron-deep on understanding, unable to discuss any important topic in a substantive way - so I can't imagine they'd have any use for this place.

Most of my family - hold, make that just about every single one of them - I wouldn't think of sending here. None of them stupid people, but there are *so* many different kinds of smart and stupid. These people trying to engage on any public policy topic is like watching a chimp trying to figure out how to operate a digital camera. And their ignorance and bigotry are armored with self-assurance and righteousness as thick as the battle-bridge on the USS Iowa class battleships.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2015 02:17 AM (QDnY+)

398 I used to be a very ardent muddled moderate that was completely convinced of his intellectual superiority. Because being so open-minded that you'll go along with the intolerable, and not rejecting bullshit out of hand was somehow better. Yeah. I'm ashamed of that now.

People change, but they need reasons. Keep supplying them and hope for the best.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 23, 2015 02:17 AM (J+mig)

399

For everyone's files; particularly useful when some fool tries to pawn off Ahmed's Clock as a real achievement:

"This 14-Year-Old Boy And His Homemade Motorbike Will Inspire You"

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/this-14-year-old-boy-and-his-home-made-motorbike-129642350152.html

This is very much closer to what a major project and achievement by a 14-year-old boy should look like ...

Posted by: Arbalest at September 23, 2015 02:19 AM (FlRtG)

400 OK Horde since we're on in-laws.

I'm not officially one of them yet. IE: I haven't asked for her hand in marriage. Yet.

But the parents are hardcore Dems, although I believe they are clueless Dems in the sense of "REPUBLICANS ARE EVIL. BUT I PAY NO ATTENTION TO ANYTHING BUT HEADLINES."

I don't THINK they've realized their party has been hijacked by asshole communists.

Anyway, they REFUSE to let their daughters grow up. Whenever we go over I feel like a teenager at my GFs parents house.

Shits crazy.

Posted by: thathalfrican at September 23, 2015 02:20 AM (R5HRU)

401 I guess not having to worry about in-laws is one of the nice parts of being single.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 23, 2015 02:21 AM (J+mig)

402 >>>394 Emmie

Is your future son-on-law a nice, responsible guy except for being a evangelical totalitarian? I hope so-that he genuinely loves your daughter but just needs a political conversion, and those are always possible. I had one. :^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 02:14 AM (1+XCd)
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I am currently in fasting and prayer over the situation. I am asking God to bring her a godly husband (even if it's this guy, but having seen the light), heal her from emotional damage from her mom, and bring a godly mentor into her circle of influence. They're both Marxists and work in academia.

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2015 02:22 AM (eg4Vl)

403 Greetings from the high desert of Arizona. Seems funny to have a western time perspective on the ONT.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 23, 2015 02:23 AM (v9d0Z)

404 392 I'm willing to be convinced....and especially with your input -- but that didn't sound right.

Why? It's nothing out of keeping with anything else I've said before about Obama on numerous threads. Do I think Christians should pray for him-that he needs spiritual and emotional healing, that he has no God but himself? I've also said that I don't use Facebook before and I've deplored internet mobs. Maybe you think it sounds different because I'm not always affected by insomnia and consequently not here late at night.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 02:12 AM (1+XCd)




FS, my friend, my confidant, my brother in Moronitude....going back to @345, there's a thing about Facebook that seems way offbeat from the FS I know who isn't a Facebook groupie. The second paragraph @345 rambles, but is well within the +/- drunkenness parameter of the ONT. Hit me again with a FS that I'd recognize, and I'll allow that I was misled by my current paranoia.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 02:23 AM (EzgxV)

405 Oh, sorry, Emmy. maybe that's why cthulu (sp) y thinks I'm a sock-i didn't clarify about the butcher story and it sounds like I'm blathering on more stupidly than normal. LOL if you click on the first quote of the day by Jack Cashill it goes to instapundit. Instapundit has a story link in red. A butcher in WA is being harassed by a mob of internet vegans and family targeted because he dared to advertise his business on a Facebook account

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 02:23 AM (1+XCd)

406 Yogi Berra just passed away. I guess he came to the fork in the road and took it.

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2015 02:24 AM (eg4Vl)

407 I am currently in fasting and prayer over the situation. I am asking God to bring her a godly husband (even if it's this guy, but having seen the light), heal her from emotional damage from her mom, and bring a godly mentor into her circle of influence.

Good for you; I think that's a wonderful spiritual approach.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 02:27 AM (1+XCd)

408 406 Yogi Berra just passed away. I guess he came to the fork in the road and took it.

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2015 02:24 AM (eg4Vl)


I couldn't imagine going to somewhere that might celebrate his life and accomplishments, 'cause they'd turn fans like me away.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 02:29 AM (EzgxV)

409
Well cooth, as Yogi would say, if the people don't wanna come, let 'em.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2015 02:30 AM (QDnY+)

410 RIP, Yogi.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2015 02:30 AM (sdi6R)

411 Here is the link that is found if you click on the Cashill quote of the day of the day about the butcher in WA being targeted by unstable vegans. It's from the "Twitchy" website:

http://tinyurl.com/p3gv7h6


Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 02:31 AM (1+XCd)

412 409
Well cooth, as Yogi would say, if the people don't wanna come, let 'em.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2015 02:30 AM (QDnY+)



These reminders make me miss him all the more.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 02:32 AM (EzgxV)

413 Posted by: thathalfrican at September 23, 2015 02:20 AM (R5HRU)

I can relate to mindless, Democrat in-laws. One of my sisters-in-law is conservative, but the rest of the family are spittle-flecked leftists.

My husband is conservative because our lives have become intertwined. I am a pretty independent thinker so things like the churches we go to are influenced by my discernment. This has moved him rightward.

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2015 02:34 AM (eg4Vl)

414 RIP Meatloaf

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 23, 2015 02:34 AM (JmGFJ)

415 Thanks, FenelonSpoke. I'll go read it.

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2015 02:35 AM (eg4Vl)

416 Anyway, they REFUSE to let their daughters grow up.

What would be an example?

I have some friends who are strong Dems. They also share interests with me and a religious faith and are kind generous people-and yes, with their own money. I'm not one of there folks here who thinks all people who voted for Obama are evil. Some of them are just uninformed. They know I;'m conservative. I just throw int little comments here and there to say i disagree with their POV an if they drive by my house they see my heretical signs. So you could do that-not put up signs I mean, but throw into little quips here and there. : if you aren't already.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 02:36 AM (1+XCd)

417 Just saw this at Gates of Vienna. "Constantinople", by Al Stewart:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGdXbwl5QxA

Across the western world
The fights are going down
The gypsy armies of the evening
Have lit their fires across
The nether side of town
They will not pass this way again

So here in the night
Leave your home it's time for running
Out of the light
I see the hosts of Mohammed coming

The Holy Sister bars her doors against the East
Her house has stood too long divided
The uninvited guests are breaking up the feast
She may not bid them leave again

So here in the night
Leave your home it's time for running
Out of the light
I see the hosts of Mohammed coming

I dreamed I stood like this before
And I'm sure the words that I heard then
Were much the same
It's just an old Greek tragedy they're acting here
Held over by popular acclaim

So here in the night
Leave your home it's time for running
Out of the light
I see the hosts of Mohammed coming



That song is from 1981, incidentally.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2015 02:37 AM (sdi6R)

418 Cooth. You really do suck at identifying people you know. That is Fenelonspoke. I know you're paranoid, but try to be less so.

Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2015 02:37 AM (zt+N6)

419 Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2015 02:34 AM (eg4Vl)


If I may be frank. Here's how totalitarian the parents are - and it's their own fault IMO - my gal is 30 and they don't let her control her money. They run her bank account. When I marry her I've been told it'll change. I DON'T WANT TO MARRY HER FOR SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS TAKE CARE OF YOUR FUCKING SELF to kick in.

She also has a child.

Posted by: thathalfrican at September 23, 2015 02:38 AM (R5HRU)

420 363 "they wanted us to know they were on top of the 'hunger' problem"

Just tuning around on the radio dial, you can be treated to Ad Council PSAs about how "one in five children in America suffers from hunger" and "what you can do to help".

Of course these PSAs say nothing about the exorbitant amount of spending on government food aid already. Nor do they give an actual definition of "hunger".

So, yeah, with a populace being bombarded by this sort of Soviet state messaging, little wonder that Congresscritters are rushing to assure their constituents that everything possible is being done to "solve" this problem.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 23, 2015 01:46 AM (noWW6)

OK, this one is personal pet peeve of mine. We have, simultaneously, a hunger epidemic and an obesity epidemic. We have kids who are so fat and lazy that they are developing adult-onset diabetes. Which kids are being fed, and which aren't?

My son goes to public school now, at a school in a rather rough area, because we live there. Don't ask--it's Alaska, so neighborhoods are weird. Anyway, they feed all of the kids breakfast and lunch, regardless of ability to pay, off the government dime. So, no hunger. Pretty sure public schools are all recipients of this sort of deal.

Who is not being fed?

Food stamps, aid to families with dependent children, housing grants, etc., etc. If kids are still hungry, no damned program is gonna fix that. Just means mom and dad are spending it all on booze and drugs, and we can't beat that with another damned program.

NOBODY IN THIS COUNTRY IS STARVING.

If kids are hungry, take them away from the parents who are not feeding them. Period. Stop.

Whoooeee, rant off.

Posted by: St. Margaret Atheling Queen of Scotland, aka tcn in AK at September 23, 2015 02:38 AM (+YMhA)

421 409
Well cooth, as Yogi would say, if the people don't wanna come, let 'em.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2015 02:30 AM (QDnY+)


My favorite Yogism was when he was talking about a popular nightclub: "Nobody goes there any more. It's too crowded."

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2015 02:39 AM (sdi6R)

422 418 Cooth. You really do suck at identifying people you know. That is Fenelonspoke. I know you're paranoid, but try to be less so.
Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2015 02:37 AM (zt+N6)

Wait, you are supposed to be dead. Are we sure THIS isn't a sock?

/s

Posted by: St. Margaret Atheling Queen of Scotland, aka tcn in AK at September 23, 2015 02:40 AM (+YMhA)

423 Jinx, nice to see you!

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2015 02:40 AM (eg4Vl)

424 RIP Spirew Agnew.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 23, 2015 02:40 AM (JmGFJ)

425 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 02:36 AM (1+XCd)

Kinda answered that already. Anyway they don't appreciate debate IMO. They just say what they want with the digs to us on the right and when I push back it's very frowny face-ish.

They're very nice and generous people to those they like so I'm in their debt and there in lies the problem.

Posted by: thathalfrican at September 23, 2015 02:41 AM (R5HRU)

426 So Emmie, I guess your relatives are unmoved by the recent discovery that the sunspot activity indicates we are heading towards a cooling phase?

It amazes me that given the many failed predictions (such as polar ice levels), it's still impossible to get an admission of, "yeah, the models could be off, we can't say with 100% certainty that there's an imminent climate catastrophy about to destroy us".

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 23, 2015 02:44 AM (8Qx8I)

427 If kids are hungry, take them away from the parents who are not feeding them. Period. Stop.



Whoooeee, rant off.

Posted by: St. Margaret Atheling Queen of Scotland, aka tcn in AK at September 23, 2015 02:38 AM (+YMhA)

I'd bet you serious money that most of those kids going hungry have parents who are receiving EBT cards in their name, and selling them on the black market (for roughly half cash value) so they can keep living the high life. Saw that enough times in the course of my old job, before I moved halfway across the country to get away from it to know that it's a thing, and pretty widespread.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 23, 2015 02:44 AM (J+mig)

428 But i have to say, it would be hard at this point in my political views-to be married to someone who didn't share them. However, I complained so much about Obama and the totalitarian left that I converted my husband who was also a Democratic voter and is now a conservative. These deems are nothing like say Hubert Humphrey or some of the dead Democrats we old people grew up with. My mother was a liberal. She died in the 80s and would have been in her nineties if still alive. I don't think she'd recognize this Democrat party of today.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 02:45 AM (1+XCd)

429 418 Cooth. You really do suck at identifying people you know. That is Fenelonspoke. I know you're paranoid, but try to be less so.

Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2015 02:37 AM (zt+N6)




Thanks, buzzion.....I've been down the rabbit holes so much over the last few months -- along with a multi-decade career in auditing -- that I find myself looking for proof about that "early sun in east; late sun in west" thing. I find the crew here to be mostly calming, even if some are dead.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 02:46 AM (EzgxV)

430 It amazes me that given the many failed
predictions (such as polar ice levels), it's still impossible to get an
admission of, "yeah, the models could be off, we can't say with 100%
certainty that there's an imminent climate catastrophy about to destroy
us".

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 23, 2015 02:44 AM (8Qx8I)

That's because it's not actually based on science. It's an apocalypse cult with scientific trappings designed to appeal to the lazy wannabe-intellectuals, but actual science has no place in it.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 23, 2015 02:46 AM (J+mig)

431 I find the crew here to be mostly calming, even if some are dead.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 02:46 AM (EzgxV)

That's only a rumor. I may live on vampire time, but I assure you, I haven't assumed room temperature yet.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 23, 2015 02:47 AM (J+mig)

432
tcn, your rant is far too easy-going.

Not that I could feel much less respect or enthusiasm for, or more bewilderment over, the country as it has changed in the last two decades. But to hear a local congresscritter's rep say that "hunger" was their top priority, and knowing that schools have morphed into feeding centers ......

The cultural degradation has rendered America unrecognizable. The dependence pathologies of refugee camps, reservations (some native villages up your way), and the worst urban blight-centers have metastasized to broad sectors of the population. Almost over-night.


Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2015 02:47 AM (QDnY+)

433 >>>Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 23, 2015 02:44 AM (8Qx8I)
---
The indoctrinating sister-in-law WORKED AT NOAA. She was surrounded by data and scientists and climate monitoring devices. She retired early; my theory is that she saw the end of her beloved global warming theory approaching.

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2015 02:48 AM (eg4Vl)

434 I'd bet you serious money that most of those kids going hungry have
parents who are receiving EBT cards in their name, and selling them on
the black market (for roughly half cash value) so they can keep living
the high life.

The going rate on the south side of Peoria is 4 for 10 according to the Director of the Food Bank I donate to. Unfortunately free food enables this behavior.

Posted by: The BBC at September 23, 2015 02:49 AM (dOD0J)

435 Emmie, so do they brag about when they can stick you in a concentration camp and starve you to death?

It's one thing to be liberal but if you can't be respectful enough to me to avoid the topic when I'm around (and I'm trying to return the favor), I don't care who you are. Either show some respect or get out of my house.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 02:50 AM (ntObR)

436 FenelonSpoke is an 'ette???

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2015 02:50 AM (eg4Vl)

437 I saw this Yogiism at Wikipedia:

"Always go to other people's funerals, otherwise they won't go to yours."

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2015 02:52 AM (sdi6R)

438 The going rate on the south side of Peoria is 4 for
10 according to the Director of the Food Bank I donate to. Unfortunately
free food enables this behavior.


Posted by: The BBC at September 23, 2015 02:49 AM (dOD0J)

And even if they can't enough or any free food from the food banks, they still sell the benefits. Because they've got lifestyles and/or addictions to support, and the entitled mentality that's been fostered in them means they're not going to let something like their children get in the way of the 24/7 party life.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 23, 2015 02:53 AM (J+mig)

439 O.K. So now everybody knows-because I'm in a state of high fatigue and didn't cover it up. I'm a woman. I think most people suspected that, but iI didn't want to say that because i didn't want to deal with people who might have felt a need to lecture me about how wrong it is for women to be pastors. if that's what people think that's fine but i don't want to have to get into arguments about that or told I'm not a christian or God judges me harshly because of that. Been there. Done that. :^): If you don't want a woman pastor you don't have to attend the church I serve, but yes I'm a conservative woman who believes in the ordination of women in the Protestant tradition, but we don't have to argue about it. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 02:53 AM (1+XCd)

440 Qdpsteve, he's not that bad.
When I first met him, he called conservatives "the enemy" and said tea partiers deserved the mistreatment they were getting at the time.

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2015 02:53 AM (eg4Vl)

441 That's because it's not actually based on science. It's an apocalypse cult with scientific trappings designed to appeal to the lazy wannabe-intellectuals, but actual science has no place in it.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 23, 2015 02:46 AM (J+mig)

That pretty much describes the entire world view of your average lunatic progressive. When abortion is your sacrament, and using the force of government to control you "enemies" is your modus operandi, and then mixing that with a healthy dose of self-hatred that borders on psychopathy, it becomes clear that nothing that passes their lips even approaches sanity or logic.

But some can be snatched from the clutches of the beast. Once in a while you hear of someone who figures it out. It usually takes something very personal that shows them their ideas are nothing more than vapor.

Usually when someone is a raving abortion supporter, you need to simply ask how long it has been since their abortion and if they have had anyone to talk to about it. That either sets off the vehement denials and ranting, or it brings on the tears. Once the waterworks start, the crack opens, and sometimes sunlight can find its way in.

Helps to pray a bunch, too.

Posted by: St. Margaret Atheling Queen of Scotland, aka tcn in AK at September 23, 2015 02:54 AM (+YMhA)

442 /off Sock

One of these days I'll remember to check. Today isn't one of them.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell and a pocket full of Silver Dimes at September 23, 2015 02:54 AM (dOD0J)

443 Fenelon, no problem here whatsoever.

What denomination are you, if I may ask?

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 02:54 AM (ntObR)

444 Maybe I'm naive to be hopeful because of The Donald, but he does inspire that Yogi-esque sentiment in me:

It ain't over till it's over.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 23, 2015 02:54 AM (8Qx8I)

445 I said "we don't have to argue about it four times, i think. I'm sorry; I'm really tired, but I really don't want to argue.

And i'm sorry if anyone is disappointed that I'm mot a man. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 02:55 AM (1+XCd)

446 Fenelon Spoke -- if it's you, and I'm gaining certainty that it is -- I'm sorry that I barked at you. It's a measure of how much I value you being you that I want to guard it from interlopers. You are valued and cherished for your contributions to the blog.




But I'm not taking off the tinfoil hat. So there.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 02:56 AM (EzgxV)

447 Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 02:54 AM (ntObR)

i'd rather not say because of privacy purposes. It's one of the ones that still isn't performing gay marriages.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 02:56 AM (1+XCd)

448 Fenelon, no problem.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 02:57 AM (ntObR)

449 FenelonSpoke, somehow I don't expect the Horde will give you much trouble about that.

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2015 02:57 AM (eg4Vl)

450 cthulhu, the tinfoil hat is fine but could you please stop fiddling with the antenna?!?!?
;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 02:58 AM (ntObR)

451 450
cthulhu, the tinfoil hat is fine but could you please stop fiddling with the antenna?!?!?

;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 02:58 AM (ntObR)

Yes, please! It's messing up our reception.

Posted by: The NSA at September 23, 2015 02:58 AM (J+mig)

452 And i'm sorry if anyone is disappointed that I'm mot a man. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 02:55 AM (1+XCd)

Around here? You have to be kidding. If ever there was a place for respect, it's for the 'ettes.

But I'll warn you--they will want pics.

Posted by: St. Margaret Atheling Queen of Scotland, aka tcn in AK at September 23, 2015 02:59 AM (+YMhA)

453 >>>The indoctrinating sister-in-law WORKED AT NOAA. She was surrounded by data and scientists and climate monitoring devices. She retired early; my theory is that she saw the end of her beloved global warming theory approaching.


She must know. NOAA produces more fudge than a Hershey's factory.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 23, 2015 03:00 AM (8Qx8I)

454 439 O.K. So now everybody knows-because I'm in a state of high fatigue and didn't cover it up. I'm a woman. I think most people suspected that, but iI didn't want to say that because i didn't want to deal with people who might have felt a need to lecture me about how wrong it is for women to be pastors. if that's what people think that's fine but i don't want to have to get into arguments about that or told I'm not a christian or God judges me harshly because of that. Been there. Done that. :^): If you don't want a woman pastor you don't have to attend the church I serve, but yes I'm a conservative woman who believes in the ordination of women in the Protestant tradition, but we don't have to argue about it. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 02:53 AM (1+XCd)




OMG, FS -- I'm so sorry.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 03:00 AM (EzgxV)

455 And i'm sorry if anyone is disappointed that I'm mot a man. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 02:55 AM (1+XCd)

Wasn't disappointed when I found out a while back, only a bit surprised. From everything I've seen from your posting here, I'm sure you're a damn fine pastor. If your church was where I'm at, I'd go.

Posted by: The NSA at September 23, 2015 03:02 AM (J+mig)

456 Off government goon sock!

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 23, 2015 03:02 AM (J+mig)

457 If you don't want a woman pastor you don't have to attend the church I serve, but yes I'm a conservative woman who believes in the ordination of women in the Protestant tradition, but we don't have to argue about it. :^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


Good thing Catholic teaching instructs on paragraph breaks.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 23, 2015 03:02 AM (JmGFJ)

458 Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 02:56 AM (EzgxV)

Thx. No problem. It was actually good. It caused me to examine myself, if Maybe i sound more bitchy than normal and that's not good.

And I know some people won't understand this, but i've shared about the church I serve and some crazy people involved there. I'm not a tin foil hat person who sees spiritual forces of wickedness under every rock, but there are powers and principalities involved who don't want us to preach the gospel or reach out i have been serving churches since the 90s. i have never seen one so dysfunctional. I joke about it needing an exorcism but I think it really does, and in the midst of them are some of the loveliest kindest christian people you;d ver met.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 03:03 AM (1+XCd)

459 Don't worry Fenelon. I'll just think you're wrong because you're not a Catholic

Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2015 03:03 AM (zt+N6)

460 But I'll warn you--they will want pics.

LOl. No, they won't. I'm in my 50's and am not a former supermodel. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 03:04 AM (1+XCd)

461 Wow, FS! Sounds like God's given you quite a challenge! Good thing He equips us and doesn't need our wisdom or strength to work His will!

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2015 03:05 AM (eg4Vl)

462 From everything I've seen from your posting here, I'm sure you're a damn fine pastor. If your church was where I'm at, I'd go.


Posted by: The NSA at September 23, 2015 03:02 AM (J+mig)


same here. Keep on doing what you're doing.

Posted by: dDan at September 23, 2015 03:06 AM (hwYmz)

463 459
Don't worry Fenelon. I'll just think you're wrong because you're not a Catholic

Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2015 03:03 AM (zt+N6)

Speaking of Catholicism, don't you miss the days when "Is the Pope Catholic?" was a rhetorical question?

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 23, 2015 03:07 AM (J+mig)

464 FenelonSpoke, I appreciate your contributions to the blog. You're kind of the blog chaplain.

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2015 03:07 AM (eg4Vl)

465 >>>So now everybody knows-because I'm in a state of high fatigue and didn't cover it up. I'm a woman.

BUT...BUT...BUT...WHAT ABOUT THE PASTORALS??!?!11?!!!?

/kidding!

I was 99% percent certain of that anyway. No man nowadays would behave as civilly as you. That kind of gave it away. This is the Age of Boorishness.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 23, 2015 03:08 AM (8Qx8I)

466 Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2015 03:03 AM (zt+N6))

That's o.k. :^) You have to admiit I say very supportive things about the RCC and a lot of my faith is influenced by itss Saints and writers. My goodness, i'm the one encouraging people who feel a yearning towards the RCC but who dont like this Pope to concentrate of the essentials of the faith don't let that stop you from joining the church because of one Pope. I'm sort if hybrid, I'm personally rather 'm high church but have had evangelical mentors.

But as i've noted I detest the Cathoilic/Protestant flame wars

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 03:12 AM (1+XCd)

467 I'm going to have regrets when the alarm goes off in 5 hours.

Goodnight, all! It was fun and educational!

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2015 03:12 AM (eg4Vl)

468 FS, I've respected your thoughts for quite some time, and thought I knew a "signature" to recognize them -- to the point I felt like calling them out. I was wrong. I'm sorry.



In addition, I've done this at a juncture where there has been some question about gender and leadership. Again, I am sorry -- I was not aware of this context.



FS, please forgive me for my trespasses and continue to grace us with your presence.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 03:12 AM (EzgxV)

469 I think you must have slipped up before, Fenelon, because I've thought you were a woman for a long time. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Did you see the link I posted from Gates of Vienna about a week ago? It was an article about Islam and 20th Century totalitarian systems, and it also talked about doctrinal disputes in the early Christian church. It was dense and difficult reading for me (much of the theology and philosophy was over my head), but I thought it was something you might find interesting.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2015 03:15 AM (sdi6R)

470 Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2015 03:05 AM (eg4Vl)

Thanks. Pray for us. There is a fellow who never comes to church but is officially a member who designed our original website. We wanted to do a re-design and he said "What happens if someone doesn't't agree with the theology you're proposing?" What?!! It's straight Protetstant evangelical theology-Biblically based, Christ centered. This is a guy whose handle for his e-mail is some kind of Sith lLord. I could not make this stuff up it's so weird.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 03:16 AM (1+XCd)

471 The original e-mail he designed had nothing about what the church believed. Nothing',

I have two dear laypeople working with me. they are wonderful and they think i't's a crazy place too and being influences by powers and pricipalities.

Now i told you more than you need to know (sorry) and you know why we need prayer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 03:19 AM (1+XCd)

472 This is a guy whose handle for his e-mail is some kind of Sith lLord. I could not make this stuff up it's so weird.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 03:16 AM (1+XCd)


Not me!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 23, 2015 03:20 AM (bLnSU)

473 And even if they can't enough or any free food from
the food banks, they still sell the benefits. Because they've got
lifestyles and/or addictions to support, and the entitled mentality
that's been fostered in them means they're not going to let something
like their children get in the way of the 24/7 party life.


Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 23, 2015 02:53 AM (J+mig)

There are enough Food Banks in my area for a person to not even need any Snap. Not to mention that quite a few will but more than one person from the same household in line.

There really is nothing we can do about. These people feel fine stealing from the Church.
Got to pay those smartphone contracts I guess.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell and a pocket full of Silver Dimes at September 23, 2015 03:22 AM (dOD0J)

474 Merovign

You are much nicer than this guy appears to me. from e-mail correspondence

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 03:22 AM (1+XCd)

475 Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2015 03:15 AM (sdi6R)

No, i didn't see that, rick. i probably would find it interesting.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 03:23 AM (1+XCd)

476 There really is nothing we can do about. These people feel fine stealing from the Church.
Got to pay those smartphone contracts I guess.



Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell
and a pocket full of Silver Dimes at September 23, 2015 03:22 AM (dOD0J)

Taxpayer is paying for those, too. Ever heard of the Obamaphones?

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 23, 2015 03:24 AM (J+mig)

477 Thank you, FS, you are too kind.

Also, it's nice when the happy drunks are here, as opposed to the angry drunks.

Seriously, FS, I feel you about your sleep. With my heart drugs, sometimes I spend 15 hours trying to get 5 hours of sleep or less. Leaves me dopey and grumpy and sleepy and several other dwarves.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 23, 2015 03:26 AM (bLnSU)

478 FenelonSpoke, I will pray for you and your church. I had a similar experience as an intern that I may share sometime. (Not that I learned anything that will help you )

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2015 03:26 AM (eg4Vl)

479 "Taxpayer is paying for those, too. Ever heard of the Obamaphones?


Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 23, 2015 03:24 AM (J+mig)

They are paying for Androids with internet access?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell and a pocket full of Silver Dimes at September 23, 2015 03:26 AM (dOD0J)

480 472 This is a guy whose handle for his e-mail is some kind of Sith lLord. I could not make this stuff up it's so weird.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 03:16 AM (1+XCd)

Not me!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 23, 2015 03:20 AM (bLnSU)




Any quick thoughts on VW's emissions scheme? I'm running about 80% "F*** the EPA", myself.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 03:26 AM (EzgxV)

481 Here it is, Fenelon:

Globalisation as War Against Man, Part 1

https://tinyurl.com/oy9nhkj

Of course, anyone else is welcome to read it as well.

I have checked the site, and Part 2 doesn't seem to have appeared yet.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2015 03:29 AM (sdi6R)

482 FS

Speaking as a Protester whos Church protested against Protesters, welcome to the "Not quite Christian enough" Club



Mark 9:40 be darned.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell and a pocket full of Silver Dimes at September 23, 2015 03:29 AM (dOD0J)

483 I have two dear laypeople working with me. they are
wonderful and they think i't's a crazy place too and being influences by
powers and pricipalities.



Now i told you more than you need to know (sorry) and you know why we need prayer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 03:19 AM (1+XCd)

There are definitely larger forces at work in the world than we understand and can see. Their influences are like a subtle push, but pushing the first domino in a chain can lead to some pretty big things. Stay strong, you'll be in our prayers.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 23, 2015 03:30 AM (J+mig)

484 Merovign

Guess it sounds like you can relate very. well Grumpy hand dopey, sleepy etc and i have to do to a church meeting with my boss (He's not actually on site at the church) in five hours. Yay!!

I don't like the mean drunks here either.. prefer the happy drunks :^) I don't drink much. maybe it would help me sleep.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 03:31 AM (1+XCd)

485 The article was originally published in German, and this is an English translation.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2015 03:31 AM (sdi6R)

486 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 23, 2015 03:30 AM (J+mig)

Thanks so much, I really appreciate it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 03:32 AM (1+XCd)

487 BUT...BUT...BUT...WHAT ABOUT THE PASTORALS??!?!11?!!!?


No....we're not going there, :^) but you did make me laugh. Thx.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 03:34 AM (1+XCd)

488 Any quick thoughts on VW's emissions scheme? I'm running about 80% "F*** the EPA", myself.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 23, 2015 03:26 AM (EzgxV)


I may have mentioned I kind of hate VWs, so maybe not objective.

Might want to see as many fall as possible in this fight.

I know a lot of people have modded their ECUs on TDIs to get more power (lots) *and* more mileage, I even considered a TDI Jetta myself (with the computer upgrade and exhaust and intake). The cars do have their good points, aside from terrible electronics and service.

Some people think VW has an "out" of sorts in the way the law is written, but that's wishful thinking. The law says what the emperor wants it to say.

Despite the Academic Fraud in CA on particulates, diesel smoke is *still* actually worse for your lungs than gas engine smoke. The data isn't as strong as they said, but it's strong enough. Cancer hotspots are abused in the literature, but the correlation between truck shipping routes and train depots and cancer isn't coincidence, and that's been known for a while. But that's also largely uncontrolled diesel smoke.

I think it will be a mess. VW could easily survive the fines and even the publicity (they gain a particular rebel edge on this one), not sure if diesels will survive in the US or take one in the tush. Well, they might survive outside of CA, but more states are just following CA on this stuff.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 23, 2015 03:36 AM (bLnSU)

489 Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2015 03:31 AM (sdi6R)

Thx. i will take a look when I have some time and am not a zombie.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 03:38 AM (1+XCd)

490 I don't like the mean drunks here either.. prefer the happy drunks :^) I don't drink much. maybe it would help me sleep.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 03:31 AM (1+XCd)


I should be asleep now.

I had the wierdest experience lately. Caffeinated sugary soda helps me sleep. Totally the opposite of what it did a few years ago. I almost never drink it but I had some out at a friend's to keep me awake and that was the best night's sleep I'd had in weeks.

It's the drugs in my case.

But sometimes eating or not eating or something herbal or something can help.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 23, 2015 03:39 AM (bLnSU)

491 "something herbal..."

Late at night mon Merovign like to pass de dutchie on de left hand side... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 03:45 AM (ntObR)

492 #19

It's been 19 years. Get over it.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 23, 2015 03:45 AM (IdCqF)

493 Well, Fenelon, the advice my priest gave me about dealing with the forces of evil: stay in a state of grace. Not sure how protestants go about that. For a time I was in the confessional daily, and at the altar that often as well. Remember that the devil has no knees.

Not at all sure how a protestant goes about an exorcism, or even determines if one is needed, but I know that any house or apartment I've ever lived in gets blessed long before anything of mine goes in the door. All Catholic Archdioceses have a staff exorcist, although they usually don't advertise that to keep the nut cases at bay. You could contact you local diocese and ask the question, at least. Ours in Madison was not adverse to performing said exorcisms in places not usually considered Catholic, and he did a serious house blessing at a farm near us when we lived there. The family were not Catholic, but the nonsense stopped after he performed the ritual.

I know not everyone believes this stuff, but from what I've seen and heard, it never hurts to err on the side of caution. If you expect your church to serve people and not cause them problems, perhaps this is an avenue to investigate?

Not sure, again, how protestants view all this, except that I some may consider the whole process somehow idolatrous or something.

At any rate, I shall add you and your church to my long list of petitions at my daily rosary.

Posted by: St. Margaret Atheling Queen of Scotland, aka tcn in AK at September 23, 2015 03:46 AM (+YMhA)

494 I should be asleep now.


Me too. I am in the stage that nothing is working now-melatonin, nothing. I have to go back-yet again-to the doctor. But I just took some chamomile tea. that may help.Usually prayer and meditation helps but even then I go to sleep and wake up two hours later. It's the pits. You can understand. Thx for listening. Now I reality have to try to sleep.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 03:46 AM (1+XCd)

495 Argh. I've got to get up much too soon, so I'll have to try to get a couple hours sleep now. 'Night all.

Al Stewart, "The Coldest Winter In Memory"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM0zvTL7Adc



"Uncorked" is an excellent, excellent live album, by the way.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2015 03:46 AM (sdi6R)

496 A happy, cheerful, flick is on Movies! network. Taxi Driver. Haven't seen that in years.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 23, 2015 03:47 AM (NGd+i)

497 Puddleglum, yup. Happy ending galore... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 03:48 AM (ntObR)

498 I hope you can sleep. Melatonin made me bounce off the walls.

My *natural* metabolism is wonky, now I'm hopped up on a bunch of side-effect riddle pharmaceuticals.

And no, Mary Jane ain't one of 'em. The smell of that stuff makes me nauseous.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 23, 2015 03:48 AM (bLnSU)

499 Travis Bickle was misunderstood. If I had to live in NYC in the mid 70s, I'd go nuts too.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 23, 2015 03:49 AM (NGd+i)

500 To me not good news about VW, I could care less about there road cars and less about pea. But there is talk of them getting into Formula I which takes more money than most of you know so the less they have is not good.
I'm supposed to be still asleep yet.

Posted by: skip at September 23, 2015 03:49 AM (7L6zt)

501 I admit I *love* the name "Travis Bickle."

It sounds as if Paul Schrader went looking for the perfect name for someone incredibly alienated from society...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 03:52 AM (ntObR)

502 Also Puddleglum, there's a whole debate in film circles about what happens at the very end of Taxi Driver.

A lot of people think (a) the entire final act is Travis' dying fantasy, and/or (b) he's somehow getting killed at the end (he looks in the rear view mirror and then suddenly Scorsese's camera pans to the windshield... and won't look back).

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 03:55 AM (ntObR)

503 I remembered Jodi Foster (a really YOUNG JF) was in it. I somehow forgot a really hot Cybil Sheppard was in it. Its been a couple of decades since I've seen Taxi Driver.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 23, 2015 03:55 AM (NGd+i)

504 Thanks, St Margaret; Ive never actually had a n internetl conversation with a Saint before :^). Very helpful and kind post. I am in a state of grace as far as Protestant understand that. I don't go to conferssion, but I confess every day and ask of ask for forgiveness. I intentionally give my self to Christ every day. so that God might be glorified in my life and Christ lifted up. I pray and read the bible and Christians devotional regularly. I take the Lord's supper sometimes on days it is not offered in our church. We had prayers and anointing of the pews with oil the first day the laypeople and I started there , but I think more is needed. I didnt know RC would come to a church that wasn't RC. They won't think I'm crazy if i ask?

And i know some people would find this funny-that a Sith lord is writing nasty letters about not liking the traditional doctrine of the church. I guess it's funny in a way but when it's a church member it's not funny. It's creepy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 03:56 AM (1+XCd)

505 I should strike this creeper down.

Or at least tear up his membership card.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 23, 2015 03:59 AM (bLnSU)

506 I now want to see Falling Down again.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 23, 2015 03:59 AM (NGd+i)

507 Thanks so much for saying the rosary too, tcn. i don't do that. but I appreciate those who do. I do the Divine Mercy Chaplet of St Faustina, though. Shes gotten to be one of my favorite Saints./

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 04:00 AM (1+XCd)

508 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 23, 2015 03:59 AM (bLnSU)

Yes, I should. My boss is sympathetic. They are a pain in his backside too, but I'm the on site and it's complicated. I'm dealing with issues that should have been addressed ages ago.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 04:02 AM (1+XCd)

509 It's probably too late but got a question for everybody.

Does *anyone* know how London got its name? Was reading a Wikipedia that it was supposedly named for a King Lud... but there's literally no evidence such a king ever existed, anywhere. And it didn't help that Geoffrey of Monmouth was apparently batty as all get out.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 04:02 AM (ntObR)

510 I've also read that there are saints in the Catholic church that go back so far (the 10th century and before), there's pretty much no record anywhere of who they actually were or why they were canonized. Today they're basically saints just because they've always been recognized as such by the church.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 04:04 AM (ntObR)

511 Wel, there are "shadowy" Saints. St Faustina was Polish, died in the 30s and was canonized by JPII so she's not one of the shadowy ones in church history.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 04:08 AM (1+XCd)

512 Good morning everyone. Thanks for kindly listening to my droning on, and for the prayers, advice and best wishes. I appreciate that. Now I really have to sleep-before I wake up again.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 04:10 AM (1+XCd)

513 Fenelon, organizations are somewhat like people i guess. Memory doesn't really kick in until some maturity arrives.

If you were to ask me about my very first birthday party, I couldn't possibly tell you anything about it. I have no memory of it, although my mom has told me I actually had to have hernia surgery on the date of my first birthday.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 04:11 AM (ntObR)

514 Londinium in Roman Period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Londinium

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell and a pocket full of Silver Dimes at September 23, 2015 04:12 AM (dOD0J)

515 And no, tcn. i don't consider exorcisms idolatrous. I once knew a pastor (Protestant) who had a deliverance service or what you would basically call an exorcism at his church but he's long gone now so I wouldn't know who's legit on this in our tradition so I;d have to seek out the Catholics, I suppose.

Goodnight.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 04:13 AM (1+XCd)

516 qdp, London is *derived* from Londinium, but basically that was over 2000 years ago. There are some guesses, but nobody knows for sure and probably never will.

I've heard a few options but none radically more convincing than the others.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 23, 2015 04:16 AM (bLnSU)

517 The source for the actual modern day name? As convoluted as the British Crowns attempts to remain respectful.


Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell and a pocket full of Silver Dimes at September 23, 2015 04:17 AM (dOD0J)

518 Merovign, true.

Doesn't help that no one wrote anything down before about the year 1200, apparently. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 04:17 AM (ntObR)

519 Also it will be interesting to see how *Germany* responds to VW, especially after a court case.

This is a highly authoritarian culture, and these people said "fuck the rules" to a major trading partner.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 23, 2015 04:18 AM (bLnSU)

520 I've resigned myself that I'm up, insomnia is the worst. My whole life I have been a solid 8 hrs every night and if I have a bad week 9 or 10 on a weekend.
But I guess I'm up for good now.
Good morning horde

Posted by: skip at September 23, 2015 04:19 AM (7L6zt)

521 I remember a few years ago when "Beowulf" came out.

I joked that, of course Hollywood would make a big-screen version of it. *No one* can figure out exactly who wrote it, and the person/people who actually did are long, long, long gone. So no royalty fees. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 04:19 AM (ntObR)

522 Tim, LOL. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 04:22 AM (ntObR)

523 Well, qdp, the Romans did, just not that tidbit.

Maybe they left it on a scrap of paper at Pompeii.

There's actually a lot lost from that time, just less than some parts of the world or parts of history.

We actually have a shit-ton of work from the "dark ages," but that narrative is pretty strong, so most people think of it as a time of lost scholarship or backwardness. It was just a transition from Roman dominance to European dominance.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 23, 2015 04:22 AM (bLnSU)

524 I guess that's just the Latin name for London. It had to be called something and London sounded good as Stratford on Avon was taken

Posted by: skip at September 23, 2015 04:23 AM (7L6zt)

525 Remember all the Fukishima hysteria? I was just reading a piece about that. About 1600 people died. Not from radiation, but from the panicked evacuation from fear of radiation. If they would have stayed put, nothing much would've happened.The average exposure would've been no more than twice normal background. If you lived near one of the localized hotspots, your exposure would've been that of 4 CT scans in a year.

So one of the biggest nuclear fuckups and it was nothing burger as far as "RADIATION DISASTER!!!!". Will any of the hysteria mongers be held accountable? Not a chance.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at September 23, 2015 04:25 AM (dvuhZ)

526 Maybe they left it on a scrap of paper at Pompeii.

LOL Merovign. Right around that time some security scandals erupted around Hillarus I, the first female Roman Senator who wanted to become Emperor... ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 04:25 AM (ntObR)

527 History repeats itself, first as tragedy, then as farce, then as WTFBBQ.

Or, as some say, history doesn't repeat itself, it stutters.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 23, 2015 04:29 AM (bLnSU)

528 And we get to live through it. Oh boy.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 04:31 AM (ntObR)

529 Ve haf vays of makink you drive a dieselwagen!! Nicht wahr?

Posted by: Sturmbahnfuher Hochstetter at September 23, 2015 04:31 AM (dOD0J)

530 I miss my umlauts.



Ř▀Ř▀

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell and a pocket full of Silver Dimes at September 23, 2015 04:33 AM (dOD0J)

531 #525

Zero Hedge kept running pieces insisting that the wave of radiation would hit the West Coast Real Soon Now and melt our faces like the Ark of the Covenant. The rad cloud seems to have gotten lost en route.

Considering that the facility was hit by a disaster greater than anything known in human history at the time of design and construction, it came through pretty well.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 23, 2015 04:37 AM (IdCqF)

532 Zero Hedge kept running pieces insisting that the wave of radiation would hit the West Coast Real Soon Now and melt our faces like the Ark of the Covenant.

No worries. Whaddaya think we have all these plastic surgeons here in Hollywood for? Duh.

Posted by: The Kardashians at September 23, 2015 04:39 AM (ntObR)

533 >>>somehow forgot a really hot Cybil Sheppard was in it.

First thing I think of whenever I'm reminded of that movie is that excruciatingly awkward scene where Bickle takes her to see a porno. He is strangely out of synch, out of touch with his surroundings, as if he's got Asperger's.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 23, 2015 04:43 AM (8Qx8I)

534 Posted by: The Kardashians at September 23, 2015 04:39 AM (ntObR)

Doesn't radiation melt Botox? How will you handle the sudden butt deflatement?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell and a pocket full of Silver Dimes at September 23, 2015 04:44 AM (dOD0J)

535 Yup, IMO, Travis Bickle is dead. He died in that room. The ending is just a dying fantasy.

DeNiro worked with Harvey Keitel alot over the years.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 23, 2015 04:45 AM (NGd+i)

536 TigerDirect had a great deal on a case with some very nice features for $20 after rebate. I was going to buy it even though I'm not sure when my next build will be. But then they wanted almost $24 for shipping. Killed the deal. I was really starting to make plans for a moment there. Samsung just released their first mass market NVMe M.2 SSDs, whose performance is measured in gigaBYTES per second. It's one of the advance that will make Skylake a big deal after a few generations of slow buildup.

Posted by: Epobirs at September 23, 2015 04:45 AM (IdCqF)

537 Tim, The Ks paid extra for concrete foundations in their butts.

And I got to ask Kim about radiation once. She responded "why is everyone so afraid of radiation? Radiation is awesome!! I listen to Howard Stern every morning."

:-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 04:48 AM (ntObR)

538 qdp,

Thanks for the LoL.....



Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell and a pocket full of Silver Dimes at September 23, 2015 04:52 AM (dOD0J)

539 You're welcome Tim.

"Make 'em laugh, make 'em laugh..." ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 04:53 AM (ntObR)

540 Just think, the world of Travis Bickle is coming back, thanks to NYC's Sandinista Mayor. I hope the cheesy jazz soundtrack comes with it. I may even visit now but only as long as I can come as Charles Bronson ala Death Wish.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 23, 2015 04:55 AM (NGd+i)

541 Puddleglum, LOL.

"You believe in Jesus punk?"
"Uh, yeah."
"Well yer gonna get to meet Him soon!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 04:58 AM (ntObR)

542 And this time, Travis will have his own reality show.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 04:58 AM (ntObR)

543 542: Heh!! He's not nearly as crazy now. Too much competition and there all in charge.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 23, 2015 05:00 AM (NGd+i)

544 One of The Simpsons' all-time best gags was when Homer gets on a bus for Branson, Missouri, but the driver takes him to *Bronson,* Missouri, where everybody looks like Charles Bronson, including the moms and kids.

"Hey Ma, how about some ice cream?"
"No dice!"
"This ain't ovah!"

Always makes me laugh.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 05:00 AM (ntObR)

545 Well, I gotta get ready for shift change and battle the Catholic crowds trying to get home. The Pope is here in DC and getting around is a bit of a challenge.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 23, 2015 05:06 AM (NGd+i)

546 Puddleglum, good luck. :-)

I gotta call it a night too. Thanks all for the great chat tonight.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 23, 2015 05:07 AM (ntObR)

547 They have shut down swathes of Philadelphia center city to traffic, glad I have no reason to go near the place.

Posted by: skip at September 23, 2015 05:20 AM (7L6zt)

548 Another exceptional ONT, Maet. Thank you.

And for this smart military blog, here are the girls of the British Air Transport Auxiliary, who delivered planes from the factories to the front lines:

http://tinyurl.com/qf2wju5

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Scourge of the Atlantic Seaboard at September 23, 2015 05:41 AM (jR7Wy)

549 548
Another exceptional ONT, Maet. Thank you.



And for this smart military blog, here are the girls of the British
Air Transport Auxiliary, who delivered planes from the factories to the
front lines:



http://tinyurl.com/qf2wju5



Posted by: All Hail Eris, Scourge of the Atlantic Seaboard at September 23, 2015 05:41 AM (jR7Wy)

Back when men were real men, women were real women, and small fuzzy creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small fuzzy creatures from Alpha Centauri.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 23, 2015 06:22 AM (J+mig)

550 G'morning all.

Little VIA is off from school, and wants to spend the day at the range.

So he gets to use his trap gun,
plus the AR, Star Model B, P-64 and two of the Mosins for a bit.

Could be a while loading the car.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 23, 2015 06:28 AM (VPLuQ)

551 I knew I should have trade-marked neo-puritan.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at September 23, 2015 06:45 AM (msVAP)

552 551
I knew I should have trade-marked neo-puritan.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at September 23, 2015 06:45 AM (msVAP)

Nah, better it be public domain. That's the kind of label we want being used far and wide against the SJW crowd. It's perfect because it equates them to the one thing that they all claim to hate. IE, moral busybodies trying to legislate their morality.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 23, 2015 06:48 AM (J+mig)

553 First!

Posted by: Evil Otto at September 23, 2015 06:58 AM (6eVVe)

554 Morning all

Yogi has passed on

RIP

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2015 07:07 AM (DUoqb)

555 Yogi has passed on

RIP



???

Posted by: rickb223 at September 23, 2015 07:13 AM (xujhj)

556 Five hundred and fifty fifth !

G'mornin', Horde !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 23, 2015 07:13 AM (S0bOl)

557 Another late thread day so here goes links.



Good Morning Morons. Today is Wednesday, September 23, 2015. On this day in 1969 the trial of the Chicago Eight opened in Chicago. Thanks to adverse coverage by the MFM they all walked but one who was sentenced to 4 years for contempt of court.


Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 23, 2015 07:13 AM (t2KH5)

558 RIP Yogi Berra at 90.


http://fxn.ws/1NSqnTs

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 23, 2015 07:14 AM (t2KH5)

559 The State Department basically calls Scankles a liar concerning her e-mails. Say it isn't so.


http://fxn.ws/1G1QdMN

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 23, 2015 07:14 AM (t2KH5)

560 Why was there no mention of Ivanka's boobs?

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2015 07:14 AM (6xtq3)

561 Federal Judge rules that the lyrics to Happy Birthday are public domain, Gee, I thought it had always been public domain.


http://fxn.ws/1LNmXeH

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 23, 2015 07:15 AM (t2KH5)

562 Scankles announced that she is opposed to the Keystone Pipeline which has been approved and studied to death.


http://fxn.ws/1LvGqVg

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 23, 2015 07:15 AM (t2KH5)

563 Army sergeant who was discharged after he protested the rape of a young boy in Afghanistan is denied his appeal. General says there is no policy to "look the other way" in these cases. He must have learned how to answer questions from Scancles.


http://fxn.ws/1j98enf

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 23, 2015 07:15 AM (t2KH5)

564 Obama declared CA wildfires a major disaster so the people in SC can pay for CA's stupid land use policy.


http://lat.ms/1QXMfLo

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 23, 2015 07:16 AM (t2KH5)

565 A Miami priest asks the commie pope why he condemns capitalism so hard and not communism. Methinks he already knows the answer. No answer is provided in this press report.


http://bit.ly/1V8nlyq

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 23, 2015 07:16 AM (t2KH5)

566 Thanks to a few RINOs, balless Republicans, and a solid black of soulless Democrats a late term abortion bill fails to move forward. Democrats used the nuclear option why won't the Republicans?


http://dailysign.al/1NLFHzu

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 23, 2015 07:16 AM (t2KH5)

567 Yet another continuing resolution to find the government, but this one blocks funding for Planned Parenthood. Lets see if Obama will veto it and have another government shutdown of national parks.


http://dailysign.al/1KAgbc0

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 23, 2015 07:17 AM (t2KH5)

568 Ramirez


http://bit.ly/1YBLHzZ

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 23, 2015 07:17 AM (t2KH5)

569 The Daily Deals


http://amzn.to/1iw1DTj


That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 23, 2015 07:17 AM (t2KH5)

570 Yogi Berra USNR Normandy Beach

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2015 07:18 AM (DUoqb)

571 553áFirst!
Posted by: Evil Otto

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If the elitist snobs running this blog don't consider us peasants worthy of an EMT, there's no reason why we can't arbitrarily declare #553 to be the start of our brand new, fresh EMT. This is how we take back America.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 23, 2015 07:18 AM (8Qx8I)

572 RIP Yogi. It's over.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 23, 2015 07:21 AM (Dj0WE)

573 RIP Yogi. Damn.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 23, 2015 07:22 AM (xujhj)

574 548 Posted by: All Hail Eris, Scourge of the Atlantic Seaboard at September 23, 2015 05:41 AM (jR7Wy)
============================

That is really a fantastic article. Thanks Eris!

Posted by: MTF at September 23, 2015 07:24 AM (TxJGV)

575 Happy birthday to you
Happy birthday to you
Happy birthday Yogi Berra
Happy birthday to you

Morning, Glories!

Posted by: mindful webworker - over morning thread at September 23, 2015 07:25 AM (U76Nz)

576 There is an old story...maybe true, maybe not....that the Old Yankees Yogi, Mick, Whitey Ford and others once bought up some land in Central Florida as an investment and for retirement. Well they never did anything with the land, and then one day some mysterious lawyer started buying up the land and the Yankee guys were all glad to unload the land except for one Yogi. He held on and was the last hold out and got a fortune for his property. And the Buyer? It ended up being Walt Disney and Yogi made out like a bandit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2015 07:25 AM (DUoqb)

577 This am on the WGN news the latest threat about a shutdown is food stamps. Millions of people will starve when the government shuts down.

Seems like they are ramping it up this time since the parks didn't work as a pressure point.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2015 07:26 AM (MIKMs)

578 >>>RIP Yogi. Damn.
.
.
.Is Boo boo still alive?

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 23, 2015 07:26 AM (iONHu)

579 Shocking, I can't believe the Republicans aren't going to get rid of PP funding. If they were serious they would pass separate budgets for each area and make the Democrats only shutdown HHS.

Posted by: WOPR at September 23, 2015 07:28 AM (nRvEn)

580 If they were serious they would pass separate budgets for each area and make the Democrats only shutdown HHS.
Posted by: WOPR at September 23, 2015 07:28 AM (nRvEn)

Not only are they not serious, they are not smart.

bad combination

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2015 07:30 AM (DUoqb)

581 7 This am on the WGN news the latest threat about a shutdown is food stamps. Millions of people will starve when the government shuts down



Not my monkey. Not my circus. Let 'em starve.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 23, 2015 07:31 AM (xujhj)

582 Not only are they not serious, they are not smart.

bad combination
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2015 07:30 AM (DUoqb)

They think we are like the Dem constituencies that will vote Republican as long as they look like they are doing something.

Posted by: WOPR at September 23, 2015 07:31 AM (nRvEn)

583 Democrat not Republican. UGGHHH!!!

Posted by: WOPR at September 23, 2015 07:32 AM (nRvEn)

584 579
Shocking, I can't believe the Republicans aren't going to get rid of PP
funding. If they were serious they would pass separate budgets for each
area and make the Democrats only shutdown HHS.

Posted by: WOPR at September 23, 2015 07:28 AM (nRvEn)


They did pass another continuing resolution yo fund the gov for a few more months and it also bans funding for PP for a year. See 567 above.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 23, 2015 07:32 AM (t2KH5)

585 Morning thread?

We don't need no stinkin' morning thread!

Posted by: MTF at September 23, 2015 07:33 AM (TxJGV)

586 If the Republicans are smart they would send a CR that simply handled food stamps. No Democrat would vote against it.

Posted by: WOPR at September 23, 2015 07:34 AM (nRvEn)

587 They did pass another continuing resolution yo fund the gov for a few more months and it also bans funding for PP for a year. See 567 above.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 23, 2015 07:32 AM (t2KH5)

Yeah, but it is one big CR. They know that will never pass. They need to break it up into smaller parts that make it hard for the Democrats to vote against or Obama to veto.

Posted by: WOPR at September 23, 2015 07:35 AM (nRvEn)

588 587 Yeah, but it is one big CR. They know that will
never pass. They need to break it up into smaller parts that make it
hard for the Democrats to vote against or Obama to veto.

Posted by: WOPR at September 23, 2015 07:35 AM (nRvEn)

That would actually make it easier for him to veto. This way if he vetoes it it will cause a gov shutdown which the lackey press would blame on the Republicans.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 23, 2015 07:37 AM (t2KH5)

589 I see the arrival of the EMT has been retarded too.

Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2015 07:38 AM (BO/km)

590 If they were serious they would pass separate budgets for each area and make the Democrats only shutdown HHS.

But that makes it so much harder to sneak in the graft.

Posted by: V the K at September 23, 2015 07:40 AM (O7MnT)

591 This woman they shot in Jerusalem yesterday. She was dressed as if she were saudi - not pali. I thought she was attempting to hide her identity and weapon.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 23, 2015 07:40 AM (iQIUe)

592 Veto? Heck, Republican leadership invite TFG to veto CR's and other bills every time they announce in advance they don't have the votes to over turn. Why would they announce a count that runs against their interest? I suppose in some instances it's an obvious party-line vote count, but in other instances McConnell goes public with his inability to get the McVain-Murkowski wing of the party to stand in line.

Why, it's almost like he wants to lose.

Posted by: MTF at September 23, 2015 07:42 AM (TxJGV)

593 Fcuk Todd just claimed on MSNBC that the State Department IT didn't know about Hillary Clinton's server. How's that possible?

Posted by: Hadoop at September 23, 2015 07:42 AM (2X7pN)

594 That part of GOPe failure theater.

They know Obama will veto it, shut down the government and blame it on the GOP because the GOP allows itself to be blamed for everything.

Then Turtle and Orange crush will capitulate and go gosh we tried and run on the issue and blame conservative purists for putting them in that situation.

Team Stupid really ain't stupid they're just working for the other side.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2015 07:43 AM (gYXCc)

595 Russian soldiers are refusing to deploy to syria. lol Dont blame them.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 23, 2015 07:45 AM (iQIUe)

596 >>>Obama declared CA wildfires a major disaster so the people in SC can pay for CA's stupid land use policy.


Didn't they pass the watermark of being 50% illegal (ie. non-US citizens) a few years ago? At this point they should just be considered a foreign country and be left to themselves.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 23, 2015 07:45 AM (8Qx8I)

597 This is my current theory:
R's are perfectly serious and as smart as anyone else .... they are on the same side as the D's, which is to say against us.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 23, 2015 07:46 AM (S0bOl)

598 Team Stupid really ain't stupid they're just working for the other side.



They ARE stupid if they think we buy that shit anymore.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 23, 2015 07:46 AM (xujhj)

599
RIP, Yogi.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 23, 2015 07:47 AM (iQIUe)

600 Army sergeant who was discharged after he protested
the rape of a young boy in Afghanistan is denied his appeal. General
says there is no policy to "look the other way" in these cases. He must
have learned how to answer questions from Scancles.


http://fxn.ws/1j98enf



Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 23, 2015 07:15 AM (t2KH5)


I'm surprised that Barry hasn't lit up the White House in rainbow colors again to "celebrate" all of this boy rape

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2015 07:48 AM (DiZBp)

601 It ain't over until Cankles sings.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 23, 2015 07:49 AM (8Qx8I)

602 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 23, 2015 07:49 AM (ZQfW9)

603 Army sergeant who was discharged after he protested the rape of a young boy in Afghanistan is denied his appeal. General says there is no policy to "look the other way" in these cases.



Sure sounds like the Army IS looking the other way.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 23, 2015 07:50 AM (xujhj)

604 Ephraim Engleman, a major during WW2 and thought to be the world's oldest practicing physician and medical researcher, died at 104 UC San Francisco just announced. Pretty interesting career filled with productive years.

http://bit.ly/1KzxOrD

Posted by: MTF at September 23, 2015 07:50 AM (TxJGV)

605 593
Fcuk Todd just claimed on MSNBC that the State Department IT didn't know about Hillary Clinton's server. How's that possible?

Posted by: Hadoop at September 23, 2015 07:42 AM (2X7pN)

Its another lie. See 559 above.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 23, 2015 07:50 AM (t2KH5)

606 This am on the WGN news the latest threat about a
shutdown is food stamps. Millions of people will starve when the
government shuts down.



Seems like they are ramping it up this time since the parks didn't work as a pressure point.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2015 07:26 AM (MIKMs)


Maybe they'll be too weak to shoot each other

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2015 07:51 AM (DiZBp)

607 593 Fcuk Todd just claimed on MSNBC that the State Department IT didn't know about Hillary Clinton's server. How's that possible?

Posted by: Hadoop at September 23, 2015 07:42 AM (2X7pN)
==========================

Well one of them knew, because it was one of their staffers who maintained the server for her.

Posted by: MTF at September 23, 2015 07:52 AM (TxJGV)

608 Pretty sure gun-grabbers like Biden are cool with hunting, too.

Posted by: Y-not at September 23, 2015 07:56 AM (0Iy+I)

609 It's a black day with lunatics retarding our communications with their niggardly approach to language.

Posted by: mindful webworker - cunning linguist at September 23, 2015 07:56 AM (U76Nz)

610 I lost all respect for the NPS.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 23, 2015 07:56 AM (iQIUe)

611 When people stranded in a hotel in the Grand Tetons stepped out to take photos, the NPS ordered them in or they wd be arrested. They think they own the effing view?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 23, 2015 07:58 AM (iQIUe)

612 Wow, Vic has really lost his touch. Finished the news report nearly an hour ago, and there's still no morning post!

Posted by: mindful webworker - hog a blog at September 23, 2015 08:00 AM (U76Nz)

613 We need to start keeping a retribution list. The National Park Service can be on it.

Posted by: MTF at September 23, 2015 08:00 AM (TxJGV)

614 Personal first:

Went to sleep after posting on ONT.

Woke up. Posted on ONT.

Posted by: filbert at September 23, 2015 08:01 AM (/j9PE)

615 611

Yes, they do. And they are certain that we are keen on destroying it. Only they can protect nature from we stupid, hateful rubes.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at September 23, 2015 08:02 AM (GzDYP)

616 Was yesterday the first time a Marxist President welcomed a communist Pope to the White House?

Another historic first!

Posted by: MTF at September 23, 2015 08:03 AM (TxJGV)

617 How I wish that were an unfunny joke. They do seriously think that.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 23, 2015 08:04 AM (S0bOl)

618 MTF: We need to start keeping a retribution list...

Start? You don't already have binders full?

Posted by: mindful webworker - revenge is best served with a Merlot at September 23, 2015 08:05 AM (U76Nz)

619 Communists do not believe in the real presence of the Lord in the Eucharist or the divinity of Jesus. The Pope might be a socialist; he is not a Communist

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 08:06 AM (1+XCd)

620 http://tinyurl.com/o9jf6vy

Good cartoon by Gary Varvel from the "Indy Star" You have to click on it to make it bigger. I have a feeling the guy is a Democrat from other cartoons, but he doesn't like Hillary.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 08:07 AM (1+XCd)

621 Morning thread at last

Posted by: mindful webworker - clarion at September 23, 2015 08:07 AM (U76Nz)

622 Well, maybe I do. But if the Government asks I don't know what you're talking about.

Posted by: MTF at September 23, 2015 08:09 AM (TxJGV)

623 The new book on Hillary called "Unlikeable" is either out or coming out. (The title cracks me up.) It's reported in the NY Post that Hillary told Obama "call off your f---ing attack dogs" (about the e-mail situation and leaks) while she was meeting with him in the Oval Office. No love lost there.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2015 08:10 AM (1+XCd)

624 nood

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 23, 2015 08:12 AM (t2KH5)

625 President Trump flips open his binder full of federal workers and scans the Park Service section. He asks, "Who's decision kept the war memorials closed to the veterans?" A nervous hand in the group before him slowly raises. "You're fired!"

Posted by: OldDominionMom at September 23, 2015 08:12 AM (GzDYP)

626 Sounds like a leftist view of economics.
Posted by:áJ.J. Sefton
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They can't bake bigger pizzas or more pizzas. That would cause Global Warming. That's why chef Benito Bernankini had to go with Quantitative Slicing.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 23, 2015 08:57 AM (8Qx8I)

627 Discovery On Mars

https://youtu.be/9XMNXNIdgV0

Posted by: Parmenides at September 23, 2015 09:37 AM (scOkk)

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