Saturday Politics Thread: Genocide [Y-not]

Please use this thread for politics and the thread below for mirth and merriment.

Most of you know that the media and Democrat machine (BIRM) have been studiously ignoring the Center for Medical Progress' undercover videos of the ghoulish (and it appears criminal) practices at Planned Parenthood. That changed last week with Carly Fiorina's highly effective attacks on same.

Now the media have switched from ignoring the existence of these videos, to dismissing them or outright lying about what they show. A sample below:

That tweet was in response to Mollie Hemingway's (Y-not: Typo fixed) tweet showing a clip of an aborted child who was born alive and allowed to die. (I thought Mollie's response was perfect.) I won't embed the tweet and clip, but I urge you to watch it. Ms. Hemingway (Y-not: Typo fixed) has a piece about the media's denials over at The Federalist.

Coincidentally, I happened to watch the World At War's episode, "Genocide," yesterday. In it they describe how the Nazis harvested glasses, prosthetic limbs, gold fillings and even human fat from the people they murdered.

Limbs.jpg

This image from the documentary reminded me of the pictures we've seen of baby parts "harvested" by Planned Parenthood.


Can someone explain to me the difference between what the Nazis and their apologists did and what Planned Parenthood and its enablers are doing today?


**UPDATE: Excellent comment from Lizzy:

25 What I like about Carly is that she is really good about separating this from abortion --- she makes it clear this is about what they are doing to breathing human beings. The PP types love to brush this off as a mother's choice as a way to ignore that there's another human being involved.

Here's a 10 min debate with a creepy EMILY's List gal from a while back (starts ~4 min mark).
SHe is fabulous - will not back down, will not buy the euphemisms, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2&v=LIyVGzf95VY

Here's the video she linked:

Posted by: Open Blogger at 09:26 AM




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1 According to the Conservative Treehouse blog, although Trump did not go to a republican debate yesterday, he announced he will speak at a high school graduation in Iowa. Evidently he had advance knowledge that a trap had been planned for him at the debate, so he cancelled.

Posted by: Chillin the most at September 19, 2015 08:34 AM (BI43k)

2 Jindal played this perfectly by showing the PP videos during a pro-PP protest, to show them exactly what they were supporting

Every PP supporter I know is unaware of these 10 videos; the media is ignoring them because it destroys their charade that these are not human babies being murdered, dismembered, and sold for medical experimentation

Posted by: Slash Buzz at September 19, 2015 09:30 AM (yk5Y5)

3 "Can someone explain to me the difference between what the Nazis and their apologists did and what Planned Parenthood and its enablers are doing today? "

Nazis didn't get away with it.

Posted by: Secundus at September 19, 2015 09:31 AM (8Uc/L)

4 The difference is that the mothers of the victims bring them to the executioners willingly.At least in most cases.

Posted by: steevy at September 19, 2015 09:31 AM (sPO3u)

5 Can someone explain to me the difference between what the Nazis and their apologists did and what Planned Parenthood and its enablers are doing today?

--

PP is killing way more than the Nazis did.

Posted by: @votermom at September 19, 2015 09:32 AM (cbfNE)

6 "Can someone explain to me the difference between what the Nazis and their apologists did and what Planned Parenthood and its enablers are doing today? "

One was a political party and national government intent on purifying the land of sub-humans through the systematic collection and mass murder of those determined to be in that group.

The other is a business who realizes monetary profit through the harvesting of unborn pre-humans.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 19, 2015 09:32 AM (VPLuQ)

7 Planned Parenthood confuses healthcare with hell care

Posted by: phxgrl at September 19, 2015 09:34 AM (kc0dz)

8 >>Can someone explain to me the difference between what the Nazis and their apologists did and what Planned Parenthood and its enablers are doing today?


I suppose the only difference is that with PP, the government has outsourced the genocide instead of making it actual policy.

Then again, HHS mandate is eroding that bit by bit. How soon before we get our own One Child Policy, Liverpool Care Pathway or Groningen Protocol?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 19, 2015 09:35 AM (NOIQH)

9 I am pretty sure PPHood is convinced that they are likewise purifying the land, in their heart of hearts

Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 09:35 AM (zOTsN)

10 "Can someone explain to me the difference between what the Nazis and their apologists did and what Planned Parenthood and its enablers are doing today? "

My granddads got to fight the first atrocity. I'm forced to pay taxes to fund the other.

Posted by: Hillary's alcoholic depression at September 19, 2015 09:36 AM (VRc/p)

11 Those images ain't easy.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 09:36 AM (9ORmX)

12 Excellent post, Y-Not though the subject matter is so horrifying.

I really like Mollie Hemmingway. She kicks ass on this subject. She would be a great guest on the podcast

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 09:36 AM (2x3L+)

13 Got an email from a stupid leftwing org "0 poverty 0 hunger100% clean energy" .How is this fantasy world to come about?Maybe if the population is drastically reduced....

Posted by: steevy at September 19, 2015 09:37 AM (sPO3u)

14 Can someone explain to me the difference between what the Nazis and
their apologists did and what Planned Parenthood and its enablers are
doing today?


One group was motivated by the leadership of a soulless madman's desire to subjugate his nation to his whim and impose his twisted form of elitist socialism on the masses as a form of revenge for perceived slights and who murdered millions in service to his cause.



The others were Nazis.


Posted by: Mortimer at September 19, 2015 09:37 AM (0dcbp)

15 That's what the MSM does....lie, distort, lie some more.

PP is on par with the Communits, Nazis and musloids as far as their crimes against humanity goes.

I wonder if we can get one of those Spanish judges who is always charging some long forgotten South American dictator with war crimes to bring charges against PP and their director?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 19, 2015 09:38 AM (ej1L0)

16 It's also important to remember Hitler's Action T4 Program along with what he did to the Jews.

This was essentially offing defective (non-Jew)people - kids with Downs, that sort of thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_T4

Posted by: Lizzy at September 19, 2015 09:38 AM (NOIQH)

17 Scurvy scallywags! Avast!!

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 19, 2015 09:39 AM (JO9+V)

18 >>Got an email from a stupid leftwing org "0 poverty 0 hunger100% clean energy" .How is this fantasy world to come about?Maybe if the population is drastically reduced....



Don't you recall the hospitals using aborted babies ---er, "discarded tissue" to generate electricity?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 19, 2015 09:40 AM (NOIQH)

19 What I don't understand is why the police haven't opened investigations. They saw a film of a living child brutally murdered. Aren't the copes supposed to be investigating snuff films?

Posted by: MTF at September 19, 2015 09:41 AM (TxJGV)

20 "The others were Nazis. "


That's pretty..........insightful, Mort.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 09:41 AM (9ORmX)

21 Yes, Jindal's approach was also excellent.

I try not to be a single-issue voter, but I do find Fiorina's passionate defense of life very useful. It seems to me if she was really a shill for the GOPe, who tend to steer clear of "social issues," she wouldn't be hammering the Planned Parenthood videos and abortion quite so hard.

So she has moved up in my list of candidates, because I think there's at least some important core values that we share.

Posted by: Y-not at September 19, 2015 09:41 AM (0Iy+I)

22 "Got an email from a stupid leftwing org "0 poverty 0 hunger100% clean energy" .How is this fantasy world to come about?"

If one studies the Nazi approach to the elimination of their victims, they advocated that there would be fewer stomachs placing a demand on food resources.
That parts of the remains could be repurposed into clothing and blankets, as well as used to produce warmth.

Not a large mental leap to where one burns victims to produce energy, and the creation of Soylent Green.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 19, 2015 09:42 AM (VPLuQ)

23 I am glad Carly spoke so forcefully and passionately against Planned Parenthood in the debate.

But if it comes down to Carly vs Hillary! I'm sure this video of Carly will become one of Hillary's campaign ads:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kbvfwV8rHQ

Posted by: parteagirl at September 19, 2015 09:42 AM (K0jlM)

24 Trump should absolutely avoid all the GOPe events. Why give the bastards another chance to fight back, since we all hope one result of this election is they will be banished to unemployment?

Posted by: MTF at September 19, 2015 09:43 AM (TxJGV)

25 What I like about Carly is that she is really good about separating this from abortion --- she makes it clear this is about what they are doing to breathing human beings. The PP types love to brush this off as a mother's choice as a way to ignore that there's another human being involved.

Here's a 10 min debate with a creepy EMILY's List gal from a while back (starts ~4 min mark).
SHe is fabulous - will not back down, will not buy the euphemisms, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2&v=LIyVGzf95VY

Posted by: Lizzy at September 19, 2015 09:43 AM (NOIQH)

26 Speaking of which, didn't Mengele earn his bread as an abortionist, while he was hiding in South America?

Posted by: Secundus at September 19, 2015 09:44 AM (8Uc/L)

27 What's that noise? It's the collective sound of the left covering their ears and chanting, "La, la, la, la, la, la, I can't hearrrr you!"


They know abortion is evil. They are compelled to try to make something good of it and the way they have chosen is to postulate that using the fetal parts for "research" is for the 'greater good'. They (like the Nazis) have lost their humanity. To take an innocent life because it is inconvenient to the parents and rationalize it by telling yourself it is for 'life-saving research' is the apex of hypocrisy.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 19, 2015 09:44 AM (NeFrd)

28 Again, the Left invests a lot in human death.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 09:45 AM (9ORmX)

29 I have been calling them out as Nazis on other blogs, and have also mentioned that it is an old trick of both the communists and fascists to find one small deviation from truth to dismiss an entire argument.

We live in horrid times. Damn I wish there were alternative earth dimensions. Liberals could take one, conservatives another, and see who did better.

Posted by: Brendan at September 19, 2015 09:46 AM (gkvx9)

30 Weirdly, I think Trump is sincerely pro life. I saw him on The View and he was arguing pretty strongly against Joyless Behar and Whoopie Goldberg. They told him he didn't know what he was talking about regarding PP. and he pushed back pretty hard. If this was an issue he was just using to pander to the base, he would have dropped or changed the subject instead of arguing with two horrible bitches

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 09:46 AM (2x3L+)

31 >>What I don't understand is why the police haven't opened investigations.

Texas AG is investigating - he's been working w/the filmmakers who made several of their undercover visits to TX PPs.

Oh, and oddly enough, the TX AG was arrested a few days after a hearing on PP. Weird, huh?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 19, 2015 09:46 AM (NOIQH)

32 "Got an email from a stupid leftwing org "0 poverty 0 hunger100% clean energy" .How is this fantasy world to come about?"

So, Venus. Travel to Venus, open the door. Assess. 0% Hunger, 0% Poverty, perfect Genie Coeff, perfect energy balance.

Posted by: Jean at September 19, 2015 09:47 AM (ztOda)

33 You could Clock work Orange Barak and Hillery and force them to watch any and all PP videos and it wouldn't faze them one bit.

Posted by: skip at September 19, 2015 09:47 AM (7L6zt)

34 Carly sure does draw a lot of attention around here. If you're interested, and I know there are some very sensitive to this Democrat strategy, here's the WSJ on how she refuses to play the gender card. Good short video too, on the GOP contenders (with Dan Heninger).

http://on.wsj.com/1KsHRyI

Posted by: MTF at September 19, 2015 09:47 AM (TxJGV)

35 Can someone explain to me the difference between what the Nazis and
their apologists did and what Planned Parenthood and its enablers are
doing today?


Fashion sense?

Posted by: DaveA at September 19, 2015 09:48 AM (DL2i+)

36 As far as we know, Mitch McConnell wasn't hell bent on funding the Third Reich. Perhaps only because he was 3 when WW2 ended but here we are.

Posted by: Chico Escuela at September 19, 2015 09:48 AM (D7FqI)

37 Thanks for that great comment, Lizzy. I've embedded that video you linked.

Posted by: Y-not at September 19, 2015 09:48 AM (0Iy+I)

38 One of Planned Parenthood's slogans is "Every baby a wanted baby!"
Which translates to "Kill the uneanted babies!"

Imagine if that was applied to immigration.

Posted by: @votermom at September 19, 2015 09:49 AM (cbfNE)

39 Texas AG is investigating - he's been working w/the filmmakers who made several of their undercover visits to TX PPs.

But wasn't he investigating the sale of body parts? I'm talking about a straight-up, garden variety, 'local crime story' murder investigation (a la Kermit Gosnell).

Uggggh. I can't even believe such evil exists and so openly.

Posted by: MTF at September 19, 2015 09:49 AM (TxJGV)

40 I would guess either one would pull a Stalin on you and tell you one million abortions is just a statistic.

Posted by: skip at September 19, 2015 09:50 AM (7L6zt)

41 "Oh, and oddly enough, the TX AG was arrested a few days after a hearing on PP. Weird, huh?"

Knew he was arrested. Thought it on legit reasons, though.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 09:50 AM (9ORmX)

42 Brendan: ...wish there were alternative earth dimensions. Liberals could take one, conservatives another, and see who did better.

California. Texas.

Problem is traveling between dimensions is too easy.

Posted by: mindful webworker - multidimensional at September 19, 2015 09:51 AM (f/ass)

43 I agree that Trump is best in a rally setting- going to a high school in Iowa is a great move.

I was at his Dallas rally on Monday, and in front of me was a whole row, about 12 of them, of high school boys from a nearby town. They absolutely loved Trump.

I also think he needs to be careful with Q&As. The Muslim questioner was an obvious plant.

Posted by: parteagirl at September 19, 2015 09:51 AM (K0jlM)

44 Ooh, good, Y-not!

Just look how angry Carly is!

Righteous anger instead of that nancy-boy political positioning you see from Boehner and McConnell.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 19, 2015 09:51 AM (NOIQH)

45 Mort's comment, damn near perfect. It just needs a "But Mostly..."

I refuse to believe that burning human tissue generates enough heat to generate electricity, without an additional heat source. And this explains the survival of many of my neighbors.

Little recycling story: an enterprising German scientist ("scientist") had come up with a way to flay and salvage human flesh from the lesser races, to be used for skin grafts on burned soldiers from the eastern front. Someone got him a lunch appointment with Hitler to discuss his research. The Fuehrer heard him out, thanked him for his efforts, and encouraged him to keep up the good work. Then, went into the next room and puked his guts out. Some things were too much even for him.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 19, 2015 09:52 AM (xq1UY)

46 Damn I wish there were alternative earth dimensions. Liberals could take one, conservatives another, and see who did better.

1st major non-military use of the Stargate.
1st follow up question - ask the Jews if they want to go or stuff the Muslims thru?

Posted by: DaveA at September 19, 2015 09:52 AM (DL2i+)

47 Fashion sense?

Posted by: DaveA at September 19, 2015 09:48 AM (DL2i+)

There are hundreds of millions of very serious reasons to hate the Nazis with the blazing fire of a thousand supernovas. However, waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy down there near the bottom, is: Ruined silver and black as an option for military uniforms.

Also: Which is worse-- doing something for money or because you sincerely believe in it?

Posted by: Secundus at September 19, 2015 09:52 AM (8Uc/L)

48 Everything leftist - from abortion to pot legalization to tax the rich to ignoring the dangers in the Middle East is so they can avoid growing up. Dead babies won't stop them. The party never ends.

Posted by: Hillary's alcoholic depression at September 19, 2015 09:54 AM (VRc/p)

49 "Just look how angry Carly is! "


I like Carly because she has "fight!" The attack, not defend, mentality. Give it to those bastards.


And here line about activities vs. accomplishments in the last debate is gold.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 09:54 AM (9ORmX)

50 Carly is really great talking about this issue. She is so forceful and can manage to put a coherent sentence together about abortion unlike most every member of the GOPe who hate being forced to talk about abortion and wind up sounding like imbeciles.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 09:54 AM (2x3L+)

51 >>Knew he was arrested. Thought it on legit reasons, though.

Yeah, it may well be legit - it was just the timing, as well as the fact that in TX the effective Republicans always end up getting arrested/investigated for something. Maybe a TX 'ron or 'ette could enlighten us as to whether this one seemed legit or more of the "let's take out another Republican!" variety.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 19, 2015 09:54 AM (NOIQH)

52 If one studies the Nazi approach to the elimination of their victims, they advocated that there would be fewer stomachs placing a demand on food resources.

Normal people would just increase the food supply.

Just sayin'...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 19, 2015 09:55 AM (LUgeY)

53 Morning all

There is no more politics. There is only WAR and until we all recognize that we will not win. And we have to stop letting the MSM set the agenda.

Fuck them all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 09:55 AM (DUoqb)

54 34 Carly sure does draw a lot of attention around here. If you're interested, and I know there are some very sensitive to this Democrat strategy, here's the WSJ on how she refuses to play the gender card. Good short video too, on the GOP contenders (with Dan Heninger).

http://on.wsj.com/1KsHRyI
Posted by: MTF at September 19, 2015 09:47 AM (TxJGV)



Take a look at the video I post @23.
It is Carly heaping praise on Hillary Clinton after she lost the nomination, and the reason she gives that Hillary lost...she's a WOMAN!

Carly played the gender card.

Posted by: parteagirl at September 19, 2015 09:55 AM (K0jlM)

55 Thank God for Carly. I really mean that. Even if she fizzle's out, she's forced the media to talk about (lie about) these videos which means that more and more people will see them. Everyone ignored Cruz, Jindal et al because they're men and clearly men can't oppose cutting open babies faces, but they can't ignore a woman saying the same thing.

Score one for identity politics.

Posted by: Lauren at September 19, 2015 09:56 AM (XDArH)

56 Carly is so damn fearless and refuses to be intimidated. Impressed. She is really standing out and looking good. She is like smarter, more sophisticated version of Trump

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 09:56 AM (2x3L+)

57 "Some things were too much even for him. "

Nothing is too much for the ghouls in the Democrat party.

Posted by: Lauren at September 19, 2015 09:57 AM (XDArH)

58 >>It is Carly heaping praise on Hillary Clinton after she lost the nomination

I've been told by Trump's ardent supporters that things said a few years ago don't count. For example, his strident defense of late term and partial birth abortions.

Posted by: Y-not at September 19, 2015 09:57 AM (0Iy+I)

59 6 "Can someone explain to me the difference between what the Nazis and their apologists did and what Planned Parenthood and its enablers are doing today? "

One was a political party and national government intent on purifying the land of sub-humans through the systematic collection and mass murder of those determined to be in that group.


The others were Germans.

FIFY.

Posted by: blaster at September 19, 2015 09:57 AM (2Ocf1)

60 I also think he needs to be careful with Q&As. The Muslim questioner was an obvious plant.

I thought Trump had the perfect answer, he just let it hang. None of the people getting upset were ever going to vote for him. The real problem was Christie sucking up.

Posted by: Jean at September 19, 2015 09:58 AM (ztOda)

61 Texas has a law requiring that abortion clinics be held to the sme medical standard as hospitals, which put quite a few of the abortion clinics out of business. So fr the law has withstood judicial scrutiny. Texas is investigating the sale of body parts. And Texas has for years been trying to get enough information to criminally prosecute its own Gosnell in Houston, Dr Doug Karpen

Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 09:58 AM (zOTsN)

62 " Maybe a TX 'ron or 'ette could enlighten us as to whether this one seemed legit"


Well, I got the impression it was legit. Not a state to go persecuting conservatives in.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 09:58 AM (9ORmX)

63 US Secretary of State John Kerry said on Saturday Syria's President Bashar al-Assad has to go but the timing of his departure had to be decided through negotiation.


This has to be the stupidest man on the face of the earth.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 09:59 AM (DUoqb)

64 Then, went into the next room and puked his guts out. Some things were too much even for him.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 19, 2015 09:52 AM (xq1UY)

One of the reasons gas chambers were used was even SS death squad members were cracking up after machine gunning kids. They were having problems with guys getting hooked on drugs, or going on blackout benders and shooting themselves.

Of course, they hadn't been indoctrinated since birth to see human beings as 'things'. They'd come to Naziism as teens or adults, and there were bits morality and conscience still there. PP, ISIS and such groups today are under no such... Limitations.

Posted by: Secundus at September 19, 2015 09:59 AM (8Uc/L)

65 Ruined silver and black as an option for military uniforms.

Nonsense. Didn't slow Hugo Boss down one whit.

He died of a tooth abscess, though, proving that all the good dentists are Jewish.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 19, 2015 10:01 AM (xq1UY)

66 Did anyone ask ISIS about that negotiation? What if Assad walks and simply passes the torch to one of his hard-ass cousins?

Kerry is an idiot, no way the DoS pro's are even getting a cut at the drivel coming out of his mouth.

Posted by: Jean at September 19, 2015 10:01 AM (ztOda)

67 "Carly is so damn fearless and refuses to be intimidated. Impressed. "


I'll give her that. She's balls out. Don't be afraid to attack.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 10:01 AM (9ORmX)

68 "And Texas has for years been trying to get enough information to criminally prosecute its own Gosnell in Houston, Dr Doug Karpen"

Isn't there a huge conflict of interest with the prosecutor being a big name leftie?

Karpen is being shielded, just like Tiller was.

Posted by: Lauren at September 19, 2015 10:01 AM (XDArH)

69 >>Well, I got the impression it was legit. Not a state to go persecuting conservatives in.

*clears throat*

Posted by: Rick Perry under bogus indictment at September 19, 2015 10:02 AM (0Iy+I)

70 Secundus, they made other Jews clear the gas chambers for the same reason.

Posted by: Jean at September 19, 2015 10:02 AM (ztOda)

71 Well, I got the impression it was legit. Not a state to go persecuting conservatives in.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 09:58 AM (9ORmX)


Well, I don't know about that.

Posted by: Tom Delay at September 19, 2015 10:03 AM (2Ocf1)

72 It is alleged the TX AG sold stock in a company he has an interest in to two other lawmakers before he became AG without telling them he would get a commission or getting licensed to make such a sale. He was charged with securities fraud

Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 10:03 AM (zOTsN)

73 "proving that all the good dentists are Jewish."


We got a dentist or two around here. Maybe their medical opinion?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 10:03 AM (9ORmX)

74 Well, I got the impression it was legit.

Just a quick read looks like minor securities technicalities. C'mon it's Texas, you buy something over 1k$ from a Texan you're gonna get a story with it.

Posted by: DaveA at September 19, 2015 10:04 AM (DL2i+)

75 Posted by: Secundus at September 19, 2015 09:59 AM (8Uc/L)

Absolutely not.

Gas chambers and crematoria were used because it was murder on an industrial scale, and the war materiel necessary to kill the Jews and others was needed on the war fronts. And it was simply more efficient.

There are thousands of documented cases of SS and regular army soldiers making the murders into parties, competitions, etc. The suggestion of the existence of "morality and conscience" is laughable.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 19, 2015 10:04 AM (Zu3d9)

76 Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 19, 2015 10:01 AM (xq1UY)

Oh, Boss did fine. As did VW, Porsche, Bayer, etc. I'm just saying any uniform with those colors would be denounced as looking Nazi.

Posted by: Secundus at September 19, 2015 10:04 AM (8Uc/L)

77 "He was charged with securities fraud"


Like I said, seemed legit. I want to prosecute a crooked Repub just as much as a crooked Dem.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 10:05 AM (9ORmX)

78 What is fascinating (maybe not the right word) is that Germany was a Christian nation during the rise of Hitler. That an entire country could just participate or allow such sick behavior is really something. Many Germans grew up understanding the 10 commandments, and yet look what happened. How is it possible that so many people could suddenly start ignoring their own consciences and look away or participate in such cruelty toward other human beings?

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 10:06 AM (2x3L+)

79 Normal people would just increase the food supply.

Interesting point. Big essay recently -- has it come up here? -- about how the national socialists were all about the German version of "the family farm" and distrusted all attempts to streamline agricultural production. That's why they needed so much raum for their leben. They liked harvesting wheat with wooden forks. Everything else was a Jew plot, or Sovietization. Maybe both.

How little things change, huh?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 19, 2015 10:06 AM (xq1UY)

80 The fact that Ms. MCintosh (sp?) smiles before the
video even begins indicates that her statement about "the video is horrifying" is mere blather.

Is there any evidence that the fetal parts are even being used for medical research for Alzheimers or other diseases?. How do we know it's not being used to make wrinkle cream or something?

Fiorina is a fine debater.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2015 10:07 AM (1+XCd)

81 Lefty- "Islam means 'the religion of peace'

Lefty- "Muslims are just like us!"

Lefty- "Muslim society has given great value to the rest of the world!"

Trump questioner- "Obama is a muslim"

Lefty- "Waaaahhh! Raaacist!! Hater!!!"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 19, 2015 10:07 AM (NeFrd)

82 "There are thousands of documented cases of SS and regular army soldiers making the murders into parties, competitions, etc. The suggestion of the existence of "morality and conscience" is laughable."

Yep. Listen to the survivor (second link) talk about the process of working in the death camps and the callousness of the Nazi guards.

Posted by: Rick Perry under bogus indictment at September 19, 2015 10:07 AM (0Iy+I)

83 "C'mon it's Texas, you buy something over 1k$ from a Texan you're gonna get a story with it."


I got an oil well I'll sell you for oh, say, $100.


Interested?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 10:07 AM (9ORmX)

84 Rick Perry sock off.

Posted by: Y-not at September 19, 2015 10:07 AM (0Iy+I)

85 Why can't you make a private sale of something you own to someone else? If the AG were fronting stocks for a third party he would need a license - but why if its your own. Employers don't go thru brokers to distribute their own stock to employees.

Posted by: Jean at September 19, 2015 10:08 AM (ztOda)

86 I am not going to watch any of these videos, and as I'm sure others have noted, it is not because I don't want to know what's on them. I know what's on them.

What I am strenuously avoiding is letting my blood boil, because I can be coldly logical about this type of thing. There are innocents being killed. How does one stop the killing of innocents?

I know one way. What I don't know however, is if it would help. Making such a leap to action requires rational decisions, and not ones made on emotion.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2015 10:09 AM (TOk1P)

87 Lizzy, that is an incredible video you posted, and thanks.

Fiorina looks to me to be the candidate in the race most effective as an on-the-issues debater and also manages to create a sense of being "Presidential" so far.

I'm still supporting Trump because he most resembles SMOD and until the squealing gets epic and desperate in the GOPe pigpen I'm not moving to more substantive candidates, but she is clearly doing really well and speaking my language.

Posted by: MTF at September 19, 2015 10:10 AM (TxJGV)

88 Shows how easily a population can be swayed that their misery (in Germany's case the depression) can be blamed on another population. But anti Semitic is a long occurring event in Europe so it wasn't a tough sell as we imagine.

Posted by: skip at September 19, 2015 10:10 AM (7L6zt)

89 Y, you scamp.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 10:11 AM (9ORmX)

90 Nazis vs ISIS vs PP. Who is the worst? They all seem like a slightly different version of each other

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 10:11 AM (2x3L+)

91 The TX AG may have been in engaging in some self dealing before he was made AG. No shortage of self dealing politicians. Ask Pelosi or Reid how they made their money. That is ultimately the claim. What may be selective is the prosecution

Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 10:11 AM (zOTsN)

92 Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 10:06 AM (2x3L+)

Some historians have suggested that the aftermath of WWI, the defeat and poverty and feeling that their leaders had sold them out with the Treaty of Versailles, left the Germans susceptible to a strongman leader. I guess the anti-semitism, always strong in Europe (and America, for that matter) was an easy unifying emotion.

Posted by: @votermom at September 19, 2015 10:12 AM (cbfNE)

93 What is fascinating (maybe not the right word) is that Germany was a Christian nation during the rise of Hitler. That an entire country could just participate or allow such sick behavior is really something. Many Germans grew up understanding the 10 commandments, and yet look what happened. How is it possible that so many people could suddenly start ignoring their own consciences and look away or participate in such cruelty toward other human beings?
Posted by: L, Elle


From the 1850's on, the German intellectuals were on the vanguard of the atheism front. (Except in Bavaria) By the 1930's Christianity was waning in northern Germany. Those same ideologies permeated the socialist movements.

Posted by: Jean at September 19, 2015 10:13 AM (ztOda)

94 Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 10:06 AM (2x3L+)

The roots of German (and European) participation in the Holocaust run deep into their history.

That Hitler was able to tap into historical biases and hatreds so effectively is a testament to his skill as a demagogue.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 19, 2015 10:13 AM (Zu3d9)

95 "Oh, Boss did fine. "



Strange history, Ford built a lot the trucks the Germans used during the war.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 10:13 AM (9ORmX)

96 I am not going to watch any of these videos, and as I'm sure others have noted, it is not because I don't want to know what's on them. I know what's on them.
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I hadn't watched any of them for similar reasons. The (very short) clip that Mollie Hemingway tweeted just appeared when I was reading the media apologist trying to distract from the horror of PP's acts.

It stunned me.

It's not graphic, except insofar that you know it's the dying moments of a child.

Really terrible.

Posted by: Y-not at September 19, 2015 10:13 AM (0Iy+I)

97 The indictment says he had no interest in the company, but was paid 100,000 shares fo selling to stock to the two other parties. So he sold stock without a license and did not reveal his commission to his clients. That is the claim

Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 10:15 AM (zOTsN)

98 Yeah, votermom, it's one thing to harbor a sort of racism against Jews. We all have our biases and personal dislike for other cultures I suppose. But the leap to actually torturing Jews and barbarism is what is shocking.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 10:15 AM (2x3L+)

99 I know liberals who won't eat "anything with a face." That's literally what they say.

I have little doubt they wouldn't bat an eye at what abortionists do every day.

Posted by: Y-not at September 19, 2015 10:15 AM (0Iy+I)

100 "Nazis vs ISIS vs PP. Who is the worst? They all seem like a slightly different version of each other"


Ideoligically welded to a theme. Reason, evidence, time deters them none.

Good point.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 10:16 AM (9ORmX)

101 58 >>It is Carly heaping praise on Hillary Clinton after she lost the nomination

I've been told by Trump's ardent supporters that things said a few years ago don't count. For example, his strident defense of late term and partial birth abortions.
Posted by: Y-not at September 19, 2015 09:57 AM (0Iy+I)


The difference is that Trump has been in the public eye for decades. As a known personality, the public has been exposed to different sides of Trump's personality. We've already seen his hard exterior AND his soft underbelly countless times. Fortunately for him, many see this as two sides of the same coin and more authentic than if he were just one dimensional.

In contrast, Carly is in the process of introducing herself. When we see her past positions conflicting with her current ones, unfortunately for her, they do not appear to be different sides of the same coin- they appear duplicitous.

In short, opposition research will do way more damage to someone like Carly than it will to someone like Trump.

Posted by: parteagirl at September 19, 2015 10:16 AM (K0jlM)

102 At least this disproves gender stereotypes. The Nazi butchers were men. All the PP personnel involved seem to be female.

That should make the feminists happy: "We can be just as callous".

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 19, 2015 10:17 AM (Qq/It)

103 @90 They're cousins. Identical cousins, through and through.

Skip, you're right but "There's more!"
Lots of dissolution during Weimar, even without the economics. And there was a whole fin-de-siecle leading up to WWI, and a revolution, let's not forget, right at the end. Culturally, yer Germans were about slapped silly. And they were in the middle of a century-long identity crisis before all that even came up, some of it ennobling and hopeful but on average about 50/50.

Individually, Germans can seem quite well grounded and sure of themselves. Their country has always been something of an artificial construct, and they feel it.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 19, 2015 10:18 AM (xq1UY)

104 98 Yeah, votermom, it's one thing to harbor a sort of racism against Jews. We all have our biases and personal dislike for other cultures I suppose. But the leap to actually torturing Jews and barbarism is what is shocking.
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They desensitized people by referring to Jews as a group of Others, not as fellow human beings.

That's why I bristle at any political or policy arguments that rely on statistical descriptions of groups of people, whether it be their race or their ethnicity or whathaveyou. I think it's a slippery slope.

Posted by: Y-not at September 19, 2015 10:18 AM (0Iy+I)

105 ThunderB, well that might be a problem.

Posted by: Jean at September 19, 2015 10:18 AM (ztOda)

106 I mean, Germany was a western civilized society unlike the medeival Muslim countries who are brainwashed from birth about the scourge of the Jews. Children are desensitized about torture. See the way Iranians torture dogs. . I guess it is same dynamic that allows PP to thrive and do what they do so efficiently and profitably.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 10:19 AM (2x3L+)

107 "Some historians have suggested that the aftermath of WWI, the defeat and poverty and feeling that their leaders had sold them out with the Treaty of Versailles, left the Germans susceptible to a strongman leader."


Okay. I can understand that.

What lead to the rise of fascism in Italy? Victor after the war. Roaring '20's. No hard times.

Yet, out of the blue, they went hard fascist.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 10:19 AM (9ORmX)

108 "All the PP personnel involved seem to be female. "

Women can be far more evil.

Posted by: Lauren at September 19, 2015 10:20 AM (XDArH)

109 Only if it's true Jean

Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 10:20 AM (zOTsN)

110 I actually saw the clip yesterday of the guy asking his "question" to Trump .Just the tone of his voice struck me immediately as a Moby.

Posted by: steevy at September 19, 2015 10:20 AM (sPO3u)

111 >>The difference is that Trump has been in the public eye for decades.
>>
>>In contrast, Carly is in the process of introducing herself.

Bullshit.

Carly ran for Senate and was head of a major publicly traded company.

Trump is visible, largely through vehicles he controls - reality television shows or pimping his ugly menswear. Oh, and through his political stands, like becoming a Democrat in 2001 and hundreds of thousands of dollars in contributions to Democrats.

Posted by: Y-not at September 19, 2015 10:21 AM (0Iy+I)

112 Women were involved as guards at Concentration camps, I believe, and were eager supporters of what was done to the Jews.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2015 10:22 AM (1+XCd)

113 but, Europeans were brainwashed from birth about the Jews (and Gypsies). The Holocaust wasn't the first pogrom against the jews, but a culmination of centuries of atrocities.

Posted by: Jean at September 19, 2015 10:22 AM (ztOda)

114 @ 103

Great! Now I have the Patty Duke show theme song as an earwig

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 19, 2015 10:22 AM (JO9+V)

115 Carrrrgghhly......on the attack with a cutlass, eyepatch and gold tooth ..... not a bad image.

Posted by: goatexchange at September 19, 2015 10:22 AM (W+K5f)

116 Nazis vs ISIS vs PP. Who is the worst? They all seem like a slightly different version of each other
Posted by: L, Elle
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Nazis had the best taste in music.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 19, 2015 10:23 AM (Qq/It)

117 That Hitler was able to tap into historical biases and hatreds so effectively is a testament to his skill as a demagogue.

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One of the Horde recd a really interesting book to me:
Hitler and the Power of Aesthetics

One of yhe things it talks about is hoe much of a performance artist Hitler was. He would rehearse his speeches for maximum emotional impact. His rallies were the original rock concerts.

Posted by: @votermom at September 19, 2015 10:24 AM (cbfNE)

118 At least this disproves gender stereotypes. The Nazi butchers were men. All the PP personnel involved seem to be female.

That should make the feminists happy: "We can be just as callous".
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 19, 2015 10:17 AM (Qq/It)

That's not true. There were plenty of SS Women Guards and brutes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 10:24 AM (DUoqb)

119
"All the PP personnel involved seem to be female. "



Women can be far more evil.

Posted by: Lauren at September 19, 2015 10:20 AM (XDArH)


Ja!

Posted by: Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS at September 19, 2015 10:24 AM (JO9+V)

120 "Bullshit. "


*Girds loins*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 10:24 AM (9ORmX)

121 Carly played the gender card.

Posted by: parteagirl at September 19, 2015 09:55 AM (K0jlM)
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Carly wasn't playing the gender card at all in your video, since she wasn't running for anything. She was expressing admiration for Hillary there, and on two levels: one, as a women Carly liked seeing Hillary pushing society to change because it would help other women by example, and two, Carly admired some of what Hillary was actually trying to accomplish.

This may not sit well with you, but that was then and this is now (paraphrasing Ruth Marcus). Carly has changed her view on Hillary and she says Benghazi was a turning point for her, because she believes Hillary lied blatantly, repeatedly and callously.

People do change, but I certainly understand if voters like you are cynical about the depth of the conversion if it happens in the middle of a campaign.

Posted by: MTF at September 19, 2015 10:25 AM (TxJGV)

122 ThunderB, yes if True. The firm should have back dated the distribution to the AG, and kept the paperwork under lock & key until the secondary sales went thru. Even, better would have been to distribute the secondary stock sales from the allocation previously "given" to the AG. Then it would look like he sold his stock to them; then they cure the cash details later. All cash being fungible.

Posted by: Jean at September 19, 2015 10:25 AM (ztOda)

123 Wasn't there also some element of the occult with Hitler? I think I read that or heard it mentioned on a documentary. If true, that explains everything.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 10:26 AM (2x3L+)

124 @108 Copybook Headings: Kipling, "The Female of The Species."
He used the poem as a frontispiece for a short story of a quiet English housewife taking out a crashed German aviator down at the bottom of the garden.

Horrifyingly sexist, and, sexistly horrifying.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 19, 2015 10:26 AM (xq1UY)

125 The difference is that Trump has been in the public
eye for decades. As a known personality, the public has been exposed to
different sides of Trump's personality. We've already seen his hard
exterior AND his soft underbelly countless times. Fortunately for him,
many see this as two sides of the same coin and more authentic than if
he were just one dimensional.



In contrast, Carly is in the process of introducing herself. When we
see her past positions conflicting with her current ones, unfortunately
for her, they do not appear to be different sides of the same coin-
they appear duplicitous.



In short, opposition research will do way more damage to someone like Carly than it will to someone like Trump.

Posted by: parteagirl at September 19, 2015 10:16 AM (K0jlM)


Very good point. I think one thing we all have in the back of our minds is not so much the words coming out of the mouth, but the likely actions of any of these candidates.

Personally, I cannot take any of them seriously, because even if one of them were to emerge as the Republican candidate, and somehow win, they still have to operate in Washington.


I'm afraid that whatever it is they once said, no matter how consistent, would be up against a force that even the most ardent supporter of a position could not overcome.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2015 10:26 AM (TOk1P)

126 Somebody (Allen West Republic, IIRC) posted on Facebook a challenge to all democrats and reporters and anybody else who was calling Carly a liar to watch the video -- a link was posted.
I'd stopped watching, because the videos had started to turn my stomach. I clicked the link and scrolled to the 5:30 mark.
Sure enough, Carly was not lying.
I lost about 4 hours of sleep last night. Not from the horror in the video, but from thinking about what kind of sick society I live in.
Apparently over half the people in this country want to overlook things like that "for women's health issues". The soul of the nation, indeed. It may be gone.

Posted by: jwb7605 at September 19, 2015 10:26 AM (M+9nV)

127 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 10:19 AM (9ORmX)

And Japan.

It is hard to understand. At some level I think it really is The Adversary.
They were the Axis of Evil in the literal srnse.

Posted by: @votermom at September 19, 2015 10:27 AM (cbfNE)

128 89 Y, you scamp.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 10:11 AM (9ORmX)
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I love it when scamp makes an appearance.

Posted by: MTF at September 19, 2015 10:27 AM (TxJGV)

129 And here's the level of stupidity of one of the commentators after the videos on the "Federalist" article"

"God has performed more abortions than any doctor dead, alive, or yet to be born...take it up with him."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2015 10:28 AM (1+XCd)

130 "Wasn't there also some element of the occult with Hitler"

Yes, and there very much is with abortion. I don't really talk about it because it seems crazy and people just hand wave it away as urban legend, but many, many people who work in abortion clinics are deeply involved with the occult and even Satanism. This has been confirmed again and again by people leaving the industry. That's why I tell people to go to the clinics and pray, even if they don't feel comfortable sidewalk counseling.

Posted by: Lauren at September 19, 2015 10:29 AM (XDArH)

131 If I were Trump, I would challenge people to watch the videos, and then if you still support PP - then I don't want your vote, you evil bastards. Trump's the only one with the image to pull this off.

Posted by: Jean at September 19, 2015 10:29 AM (ztOda)

132 Thanks for mentioning that book, votermom. It sounds like a great read. And, yes, Hitler was quite the showman. He used to use his German Shepherd puppies in rallies as a way to endear himself to the public. And then the motherfucker poisons his own dog who it is said that he actually loved. Some accounts say that he became inconsolable after his dog, Blondi, died.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 10:29 AM (2x3L+)

133 Scamp and Lefty. Ahoy me hearties!

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 19, 2015 10:30 AM (JO9+V)

134 So in the same sense, Planned Parenthood is Evil in our midst. No wonder our country has gone to hell as it PP has flourished.

Posted by: @votermom at September 19, 2015 10:30 AM (cbfNE)

135 Nazi rallies were a hot mess. Drunks, gays, lots of yelling and flailing.
They were only impressive when re-enacted... by Leni Riefenstahl.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 19, 2015 10:30 AM (xq1UY)

136 "God has performed more abortions than any doctor dead, alive, or yet to be born...take it up with him."

Ah, yes, the world's stupidest argument.

People die, so murder is ok!

Posted by: Lauren at September 19, 2015 10:30 AM (XDArH)

137 His rallies were the original rock concerts.

Posted by: @votermom at September 19, 2015 10:24 AM (cbfNE)

My father heard a recording of one of Hitler's speeches. He had been stationed in Germany and was quite fluent so he could appreciate the nuances.

He said it was stunningly powerful.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 19, 2015 10:31 AM (Zu3d9)

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 19, 2015 10:32 AM (Zu3d9)

139 "God has performed more abortions than any doctor dead, alive, or yet to be born...take it up with him."

Typed by an atheist, I'm sure.

Posted by: Jean at September 19, 2015 10:32 AM (ztOda)

140 Yeah, Lauren, I have heard the same thing about people that work in the porn industry being Satan wor shippers. Also, explains a lot. What a sick, sick, sick society we live in.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 10:33 AM (2x3L+)

141 Is there any truth to the old myth that the Apache men gave prisoners to the women, for the real torture. I seem to recall Plains Indians hated fighting the Apache for that reason especially.

Of course, admittedly, my primary source on Indian warfare is Larry McMurtry and he may not qualify as an "historian" for horde purposes. I believe him implicitly though, because he is a supremely outstanding story teller (and I'm gullible for a well-told story).

Posted by: MTF at September 19, 2015 10:33 AM (TxJGV)

142 Yes, some leaders in the Nazi Movement were very involved in the occult. It doesn't at all excuse the ones who claimed to be Christian, but the ones into the occult liked being what the perceived as rebels Even Hitler himself had no use for Christianity although he used it. when necessary. He felt it a weak religion as opposed to the Germanic Gods.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2015 10:34 AM (1+XCd)

143 You do see a lot of satanic tattoos in porn. Not sure if the wearers are smart enough to know what the ink means, or if they just pick it out of a catalog.

Posted by: Jean at September 19, 2015 10:35 AM (ztOda)

144 Dead babies won't stop them. The party never ends.
Posted by: Hillary's alcoholic depression at September 19, 2015 09:54 AM (VRc/p)

This^ Recently tried to argue with a far leftist feminist about the whole PP issue. When I reminded her that sex-selective abortions are on the rise internationally and that mostly female babies are aborted...said lefty didn't even flinch. Nothing will stand between them and their sacrament of abortion. Nothing.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at September 19, 2015 10:35 AM (oQQwD)

145 By the way the Yanks are finished, cooked, on life support....and not only that they are not so good. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 10:35 AM (DUoqb)

146 The sidebar link notwithstanding, Fiorina's full-throated and consistent attacks on Planned Parenthood argue against her being an Establishment shill.

Of course, I believe she's come out against legalizing recreational drugs, so that'll lose her some supporters around here.

Posted by: Y-not at September 19, 2015 10:36 AM (0Iy+I)

147 "God has performed more abortions than any doctor dead,..."

As we all know, God has his reasons and we'll never understand them. When a human undertakes God's roll we have to take action. We can't possibly be God.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 10:36 AM (9ORmX)

148 Is it correct that no one has identified the "Town Hall Guy" from Trump's event?

The question sure did sound made up to me - like what a liberal would think a far right wing person would say.

It will be interesting to know this guy's background once he's found.

Posted by: jwest at September 19, 2015 10:36 AM (Zs4uk)

149
This appears to be a moment in time that will be looked back on in a historical way.

Seized on or squandered.

How different the world would be had the Nazi's been stopped in 1933. Or Iran in 1979.

Ridicule must be used relentlessly against the murderers at PP and the "Party" that supports them.

And it seems the GOPe doesn't see this as an issue they should fight for...along with pretty much anything else.

Posted by: GBruno at September 19, 2015 10:36 AM (u49WF)

150 Posted by: Y-not at September 19, 2015 10:21 AM (0Iy+I)

Like Carson, I believe Carly is the GOPe flavor of the week to take out Trump. If she doesn't make a big enough dent in his poll ratings, they'll quickly move on the the next tool.

I am not entertaining supporting Trump as a person as much as a strategy. Look at what happened yesterday- both "conservative" AND liberal media, as well as politicians from BOTH sides piled on Trump for NOT saying something- for not defending Obama?

That kind of coordinated attack on one candidate from both parties makes me wonder... WHY do they want to take him out so badly?

My best guess is that he is disrupting their plans. If Trump in any way can disrupt or destroy any part of the DC Establishment, he definitely has me intrigued.

Posted by: parteagirl at September 19, 2015 10:37 AM (K0jlM)

151 There was also a horrifying aspect to the Terry Schiavo case where a lot of the judges and officials trying to kill her all belonged to secret death obsessed cult or organization.

Culture of death like John Paul II called it.

I am really scared of what the future holds for this country.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 10:37 AM (2x3L+)

152 You reach a certain Godwin point in discussion when you find yourself saying, "In fairness to the Nazis..."

But, the world was awash with ersatz mysticism in the 20's. We had it here almost as bad as Yerp had it. Had its effect on many movement thinkers, including some forms of popular Christianity.

A lot of Nazi mysticism was tailor-made and refitted to events of the time -- which also happens "as we run men down to-day." You can't escape the fact that a lot of otherwise normal Catholics and Lutherans joined right up, although you certainly could say that some medieval mystic recasting of Christian archetypes was the driving factor. You've seen the painting of Hitler as a crusading knight?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 19, 2015 10:37 AM (xq1UY)

153 s it correct that no one has identified the "Town Hall Guy" from Trump's event?

The question sure did sound made up to me - like what a liberal would think a far right wing person would say.

It will be interesting to know this guy's background once he's found.
Posted by: jwest at September 19, 2015 10:36 AM (Zs4uk)

Sounds like a set up to me, just like that kid from texas. All pure bullshit setups

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 10:37 AM (DUoqb)

154 Is there any truth to the old myth that the Apache men gave prisoners to the women, for the real torture. I seem to recall Plains Indians hated fighting the Apache for that reason especially.


Can't recall anything that support that about the Apaches, who were horrific all the same. I've heard the same story about other cultures - it might be a bit of folklore that just gets attached to different groups depending on who is telling the story.

Women did participate in torture in NE tribes, and James Adair, writing in 1776 about the Southeastern tribes, does mention a course of treatment for prisoners in which women played the primary role, IIRC.

Posted by: Grey Fox at September 19, 2015 10:38 AM (bZ7mE)

155 Oh, and in case anyone feared this, yes the babies are used in ceremonies.

Posted by: Lauren at September 19, 2015 10:38 AM (XDArH)

156 Nazi rallies were a hot mess. Drunks, gays, lots of yelling and flailing.



Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 19, 2015 10:30 AM (xq1UY)


Ah, so basically just like Democrat National Conventions.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2015 10:38 AM (TOk1P)

157 belonged to secret death obsessed cult or organization.

so they were Democrats

Posted by: Jean at September 19, 2015 10:38 AM (ztOda)

158 Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 19, 2015 09:32 AM (VPLuQ)


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You could have said the other were Nazis, and it would have been as accurate.

Posted by: Chillin the most at September 19, 2015 10:38 AM (BI43k)

159 @143. You are supposed to say "or so I hear."

Posted by: blaster at September 19, 2015 10:38 AM (2Ocf1)

160 Scott Walker may not be a factor these days, but I do love me some public union bashing and he went full-on this past week. I'm reposting a link from earlier this week for anyone who missed this most excellent plan of attack:

http://bit.ly/1UYI2Nb

Enjoy.

Posted by: MTF at September 19, 2015 10:39 AM (TxJGV)

161 >>Like Carson, I believe Carly is the GOPe flavor of the week to take out Trump.

She entered the race over a month before Trump.

Posted by: Y-not at September 19, 2015 10:40 AM (0Iy+I)

162
Both parties bear responsibility for this atrocity, the Dems just more the GOPe.

It's a sad, sad time when my atrocity is someone else's "choice" in healthcare.

Posted by: GBruno at September 19, 2015 10:40 AM (u49WF)

163 129 And here's the level of stupidity of one of the commentators after the videos on the "Federalist" article"

"God has performed more abortions than any doctor dead, alive, or yet to be born...take it up with him."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2015 10:28 AM (1+XCd)



Ah so moo moo doesn't just pollute the comment section here.

Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 10:41 AM (zt+N6)

164 Like Carson, I believe Carly is the GOPe flavor of
the week to take out Trump. If she doesn't make a big enough dent in his
poll ratings, they'll quickly move on the the next tool.



I am not entertaining supporting Trump as a person as much as a
strategy. Look at what happened yesterday- both "conservative" AND
liberal media, as well as politicians from BOTH sides piled on Trump for
NOT saying something- for not defending Obama?



That kind of coordinated attack on one candidate from both parties makes me wonder... WHY do they want to take him out so badly?



My best guess is that he is disrupting their plans. If Trump in any
way can disrupt or destroy any part of the DC Establishment, he
definitely has me intrigued.

Posted by: parteagirl at September 19, 2015 10:37 AM (K0jlM)


See, now this is the point where I would saying something like "you're making a shedload of sense, I want to partea with you!"

Except I'm at work... and now I have to go, you know, work.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2015 10:41 AM (TOk1P)

165 Posted by: Jean at September 19, 2015 10:32 AM (ztOda)

When people on politics forums have used the phrase, it usually is. It's the same fools who say they go into RC churches and p*** in the holy water and defecate on the altar-which of course-the little weenies don't. It's merely to get a rise out of Christians. Need I mention that these same people love Obama and at least until a year ago think Hillary is divine. i don't hang around on boards with those folks, so i don't know their opinion of her now.

This is a generalization, but my experience with conservative Atheists is that they are not as puerile and crudely sophomoric as left wing Atheists. They just don't believe in God. That's because they don't put the State in place of God and also realize that if Judeo Christianity falls it falls to either autocratic Muslims or autocratic secular fascists

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2015 10:42 AM (1+XCd)

166 "Oh, and in case anyone feared this, yes the babies are used in ceremonies."



What kind of ceremonies?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 10:42 AM (9ORmX)

167
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Nazis had the best taste in music.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 19, 2015 10:23 AM (Qq/It)


**************

And uniforms. Hugo Boss did a good job. Wish he coulda spent that talent on our Air Force, instead of genocidal *ssholes.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 19, 2015 10:42 AM (yxw0r)

168
Ah so moo moo doesn't just pollute the comment section here.
Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 10:41 AM (zt+N6)


haven't seen it in a while, did it leave us?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 10:42 AM (DUoqb)

169 161 >>Like Carson, I believe Carly is the GOPe flavor of the week to take out Trump.

She entered the race over a month before Trump.


Posted by: Y-not at September 19, 2015 10:40 AM (0Iy+I)



I believe they mean the support and coverage she is now getting. I always thought she was in the race because the establishment thought they needed a girl to go after Hillary or else all the male candidates would be accused of #WarOnWomen.

Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 10:43 AM (zt+N6)

170 Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 10:41 AM (zt+N6)

Has Moo Moo said that? I've missed it although t sounds like something he might say.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2015 10:43 AM (1+XCd)

171 "Got an email from a stupid leftwing org "0 poverty 0 hunger100% clean energy" .How is this fantasy world to come about?"


I watched The Lego Movie for the first time last night. It occurred to me (and I turned to my wife and said as much) during the first part (the "Everything is Awesome" number) that that's exactly what the Left dreams of creating. That's what they think the world can and should be, and by God they'll make it happen even if they have to kill (glue) everyone in existence to get it.

Posted by: Weirddave at September 19, 2015 10:43 AM (WvS3w)

172 It would not surprise me one bit that the guy at the Trump rally was a plant. We should expect to see a lot more of this for Trump. He really needs to prepare himself for the coming onslaught of dirty tricks to get rid of him. I also have no doubt the left and right will join forces to run a third party candidate like Bloomberg to give Hilary the election

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 10:43 AM (2x3L+)

173 Sounds like a set up to me, just like that kid from texas. All pure bullshit setups

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 10:37 AM (DUoqb)
==========================

Totally agree. And Trump is doing the right thing just cruising above the fray on this crap. Let the Propaganda Press go full frenzy, and illustrate again to voters why they should be hated.

Posted by: MTF at September 19, 2015 10:44 AM (TxJGV)

174 168
Ah so moo moo doesn't just pollute the comment section here.
Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 10:41 AM (zt+N6)


haven't seen it in a while, did it leave us?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 10:42 AM (DUoqb)



He switched his name. If you read through that post ace wrote about religion yesterday you should be able to spot him.

Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 10:44 AM (zt+N6)

175 He switched his name. If you read through that post ace wrote about religion yesterday you should be able to spot him.
Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 10:44 AM (zt+N6)

It is not Akin or what ever it was calling himself?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 10:45 AM (DUoqb)

176 Bob, the Academy parade uniform was designed by Cecil B. DeMille.
Our Air Force is always ready for its close-up.

I'm a Wagner fan, but you have to say, when they put up their Ring Cycle and operettas against Col. Glenn Miller, they never knew what hit 'em.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 19, 2015 10:46 AM (xq1UY)

177 @143. You are supposed to say "or so I hear."
Posted by: blaster


Nah, with my ring, I'm an incurable sexist and pig. But we like it that way.

Posted by: Jean at September 19, 2015 10:46 AM (ztOda)

178 The tin-foil hat conspiracy stuff is the least attractive part of Trumpery. I have decided instead to concentrate on "Trump- the GOPe Destroyer" aspect of his campaign so I can support him right now.

Posted by: MTF at September 19, 2015 10:46 AM (TxJGV)

179 He switched his name. If you read through that post ace wrote about religion yesterday you should be able to spot him.

Or you could just tell us. I've seen "Monsieur Mew-mew," don't know if that is a sock or a replacement for "Huck/Akin."

Posted by: Grey Fox at September 19, 2015 10:47 AM (bZ7mE)

180 The Republican electorate is fickle. GOPe did not create the Bachmann to Cain to Newt transition of favor in 2012.

Trump has gotten more leeway. I think in part the outrage machine is tired. You can't chew up every candidate and expect success.

Posted by: blaster at September 19, 2015 10:47 AM (2Ocf1)

181 Fuck the GOP.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 19, 2015 10:49 AM (u5gzz)

182 179 He switched his name. If you read through that post ace wrote about religion yesterday you should be able to spot him.

Or you could just tell us. I've seen "Monsieur Mew-mew," don't know if that is a sock or a replacement for "Huck/Akin."

Posted by: Grey Fox at September 19, 2015 10:47 AM (bZ7mE)



He's not just using that though. He's also doing some stupid El Jeb/Carlita 2016 thing. I find that almost as dumb as the Huck/Akin crap and I believe Jeb and Carly are both in favor of amnesty.

Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 10:50 AM (zt+N6)

183 my experience with conservative Atheists...

Fenelon, you are too good to believe. No, that didn't come out right.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 19, 2015 10:50 AM (xq1UY)

184 I don't know who "Mew Mew" is but I didn't take it for "Huck/Akin."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 10:50 AM (9ORmX)

185 I saw that debate between Carly and the PP ghoul when it originally aired, and I remember thinking to myself how pleasant-looking the PP ghoul was. She really has a sweet face. and I remember thinking that she must be in denial about what she is doing, about how she is making money defending the indefensible.
Then realized once again that there must be millions of people in the same denial as she was--that is, if they actually took, I don't know, one minute? to THINK and process what they are defending, the house of cards would collapse.
At least, I'd like to think that....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 19, 2015 10:51 AM (kRpME)

186 I believe they mean the support and coverage she is now getting. I always thought she was in the race because the establishment thought they needed a girl to go after Hillary or else all the male candidates would be accused of #WarOnWomen.
Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 10:43 AM (zt+N6)
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She's not my candidate, but if she was a GOPe plant, she'd have more money.

I think she's gotten increased coverage because she's campaigned effectively. Also, Trump clumsily taking swings at her drew more attention to her campaign.

I went from being mildly offended that she was the "token girl" (I'd have preferred Governor Haley) to being impressed by her staying on message and, as I mentioned above, by her appearing to have a core conservative value that I share: namely, being stridently pro-life. That latter thing is certainly NOT a quality of the Beltway set.

I would like her to beef up her campaign page with some description of what she thinks are the top challenges facing the U.S. and what she'd do about it, but of the complete outsider candidates (as defined by people who've never held political office), she's my top pick.

Posted by: Y-not at September 19, 2015 10:51 AM (0Iy+I)

187 I don't think Mew Mew is HUck/Akin/Moo Moo. I think he's making fun of Moo Moo, actually

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2015 10:52 AM (1+XCd)

188 Yeah, Monsieur Mew Mew is not Moo.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 10:52 AM (2x3L+)

189 112 Women were involved as guards at Concentration camps, I believe, and were eager supporters of what was done to the Jews.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2015 10:22 AM (1+XCd)


And women thought Hitler was just dreamy.

Posted by: rickl at September 19, 2015 10:52 AM (sdi6R)

190 He's not just using that though. He's also doing some stupid El Jeb/Carlita 2016 thing. I find that almost as dumb as the Huck/Akin crap and I believe Jeb and Carly are both in favor of amnesty.
Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 10:50 AM (zt+N6)

OK thanks. i will be on the look out of that lying POS crap bucket

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 10:52 AM (DUoqb)

191 We need Carly to stick around attacking HRC. Then give her a senior Cabinet post.

Posted by: Jean at September 19, 2015 10:53 AM (ztOda)

192 I'm afraid that whatever it is they once said, no matter how consistent, would be up against a force that even the most ardent supporter of a position could not overcome.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 19, 2015 10:26 AM (TOk1P)


That has been true in the past, but I am watching in amazement that so far, Trump has not been able to be harassed, harangued, or embarrassed out the race yet due to anything he has said. Here are the reasons for that in my opinion:

1) Trump is largely seen by his accomplishments and not his words. You don't have sky scrapers in the most heavily regulated real estate markets if you aren't incredibly competent and surrounded by talent.

2) Other candidates fall into the "you must apologize" trap set by the left because they are surrounded by the Consultant Class that gets paid whether they win or lose.

3) The GOPe has no sway with Trump. They can't withhold funds and force him out, because Trump isn't using their funds.

If we want to rebuild our party and our nation, there is a lot of demolition that needs to take place first. That just *might* be Trump's role. Time will tell.

Posted by: parteagirl at September 19, 2015 10:54 AM (K0jlM)

193 I gotta go, but the Gardening Thread will return later today for you gardening morons and 'ettes.

Probably around 1:30 or 2:30 pm Eastern.

Posted by: Y-not at September 19, 2015 10:54 AM (0Iy+I)

194 Then realized once again that there must be millions of people in the same denial as she was--that is, if they actually took, I don't know, one minute? to THINK and process what they are defending, the house of cards would collapse.
At least, I'd like to think that....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 19, 2015 10:51 AM (kRpME)
===========================

Lord, I hope you're right. I have so many friends and relations who absolutely refuse to confront the reality of what they themselves advocate though. It is truly amazing, and I find myself very careful about talking with them (as if I'm dealing with a mentally ill person and I'm afraid of callously popping their alternate reality balloon).

Posted by: MTF at September 19, 2015 10:55 AM (TxJGV)

195 Thanks Y-not!

Posted by: MTF at September 19, 2015 10:56 AM (TxJGV)

196 188 Yeah, Monsieur Mew Mew is not Moo.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 10:52 AM (2x3L+)



Geez people. Is it that hard to look at a hash?

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 18, 2015 06:42 PM (0LHZx)

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 06, 2015 12:48 PM (0LHZx)

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2015 12:56 PM (0LHZx)

Posted by: El Jeb / Carlita 2016 - Amnesty to Infinity and Beyond!! at September 18, 2015 04:26 PM (0LHZx)

Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 10:56 AM (zt+N6)

197 Fenelon, you are too good to believe.

Was that a backhanded compliment?. :^)

Maybe the Atheists here are just generally pleasanter or it's that I assiduously avoid any "Big Daddy in the sky is for people who need a crutch" arguments.

Plus I trust the conservative Atheists have something better to do than claiming to piss to piss in the Holy water or actually doing it. c

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2015 10:57 AM (1+XCd)

198 As we all know, God has his reasons and we'll never understand them. When a human undertakes God's roll we have to take action. We can't possibly be God.

I see this in full effect in the abortion movement. These people actually think they're God, with the ultimate power over life and death.

And they will not give it up. The insane mental gyrations they attempt to employ are proof that they're evil on legs.

They refuse to acknowledge the humanity of the children they seek to kill. I note their tired, false mantra of "women's health" and not one word is uttered about the dead babies.

Not. One. Those people are sick.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 19, 2015 10:57 AM (LUgeY)

199 "We need Carly to stick around attacking HRC. Then give her a senior Cabinet post."



Ya, know. I'd vote for her. Just for the damn of it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 10:57 AM (9ORmX)

200 (I'd have preferred Governor Haley)

Motor wouldn't start then she flagged herself permanently out.

Posted by: DaveA at September 19, 2015 10:57 AM (DL2i+)

201 Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 10:56 AM (zt+N6)

Get away from the hashes! He hates the hashes!!

Posted by: Navin Johnson at September 19, 2015 10:58 AM (zc3Db)

202 Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 10:56 AM (zt+N6)

O.K. I don't generally pay attention to hashes. Good point.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2015 10:58 AM (1+XCd)

203 The Arbys employee who was suspended more than two weeks ago for allegedly refusing to serve a police officer is still getting a paycheck from the company, two weeks after the incident.

A spokesman for Arbys told The Daily Caller News Foundation that the company and the employee, Kenneth Davenport, 19, mutually agreed that the he would go on temporary paid leave.



So 2 week paid vacation? Lovely?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 10:59 AM (DUoqb)

204 Lots of people need to be fired at the federal level. Who better to do the firing than Fiorina or Mr. "You're fired"'Trump. Those 2 are the ones I'm watching the most. I can't see Cruz or Walker doing much firing. Maybe Cruz but he's going nowhere in the polls. Trump I think right now is bleeding support to Fiorina and Carson. Carson is really just awful. His supporters just love him though and are sticking with him. A Trump/ Fiorina ticket would be a juggernaut. They file take down Hilary in a debate so fast and mercilessly just on Benghazi, PP, and the bathroom server. It would be awesome to watch

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 10:59 AM (2x3L+)

205 If Trump continues to lead big in the polls, and never has the "meltdown moment" that everyone on all sides expects him to have, what are the chances the RNC goes to him and they reach some kind of accomodation? At some point, they're going to have to accept facts. If they don't, and maneuver to deny him the nomination, can I be the only one who can easily see Trump going to the Democrat Convention next summer to endorse Joey Choo-Choo?

Posted by: JoeF. at September 19, 2015 11:00 AM (kRpME)

206 It is not Akin or what ever it was calling himself?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 10:45 AM (DUoqb)


He is now Monsieur Mew Mew. I kid you not. Same hash, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2015 11:00 AM (7MWCL)

207 Geez people. Is it that hard to look at a hash?

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at September 18, 2015 06:42 PM (0LHZx)

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 06, 2015 12:48 PM (0LHZx)

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 17, 2015 12:56 PM (0LHZx)

Posted by: El Jeb / Carlita 2016 - Amnesty to Infinity and Beyond!! at September 18, 2015 04:26 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 10:56 AM (zt+N6)

Ya would think the richest man on the Blog could afford a new Hash ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 11:00 AM (DUoqb)

208 ", mutually agreed that the he would go on temporary paid leave. "

WTF is this shit?

Posted by: Lauren at September 19, 2015 11:00 AM (XDArH)

209 I don't think Mew Mew is HUck/Akin/Moo Moo. I think he's making fun of Moo Moo, actually


No, he is. I googled his hash.

Moo Moo was a quirky contrarian who annoyed people but was sometimes right. Huck/Akin was a transitional figure. Monsieur Mew Mew is fully deranged.

I'm serious, we're watching someone decompensate.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at September 19, 2015 11:01 AM (1xUj/)

210 Holy moly, Buzzion, Moo really has multiplied and turned into first class troll.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:01 AM (2x3L+)

211 hAAAAARRRGH!
I like the Black Beard/pirate theme. My wife and I honeymooned at Ocracoke Island, NC, and have taken our family there numerous times. That's where BB used to hide out, in a concealed harbor, Silver Lake. That's where the British discovered him, and after a bloody battle killed him. They said his head circled the ship three times, still alive and muttering mute curses.
We went out on a fishing charter, and our guide pointed to a patch of water and said "that's where they got Black beard." But he said it in a way that sounded like it happened yesterday, not in 1718.
It's a gorgeous place. Some of the best beaches in the world.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 19, 2015 11:02 AM (5buP8)

212 Yeah, Monsieur Mew Mew is not Moo.

Google the hashes. I start with minx.cc + hash, then acecomments.mu.nu if it's a more recent hash.

Moo Moo = Akin = Mew Mew

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at September 19, 2015 11:02 AM (1xUj/)

213 If Trump continues to lead big in the polls, and never has the "meltdown moment" that everyone on all sides expects him to have, what are the chances the RNC goes to him and they reach some kind of accomodation?

Posted by: JoeF. at September 19, 2015 11:00 AM (kRpME)


NONE.

The Vichy GOP can't help itself. It's the way it is because it is that way it is.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 19, 2015 11:03 AM (zc3Db)

214 Btw, Buzzion, I'm glad you're not dead anymore. That meme must have gotten tiring for you I expect.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:03 AM (2x3L+)

215 If they flat out fired the employee they would have had a boycott by lefties

Posted by: skip at September 19, 2015 11:03 AM (7L6zt)

216 She's not my candidate, but if she was a GOPe plant, she'd have more money.

I think she's gotten increased coverage because she's campaigned effectively. Also, Trump clumsily taking swings at her drew more attention to her campaign.



Why would she need more money? If she was just there to go out an attack Hillary that doesn't require much infrastructure to actually mount a campaign. You just need her going out there and getting on shows and calling out Hillary. Which was precisely what she was doing before Trump entered the race.

Why not give her just enough money, or a promise to cover expenses later as long as once she drops out she immediately endorses the establishment choice and could see her getting a nice position, possibly even the vice presidency.

Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 11:03 AM (zt+N6)

217 No, he is. I googled his hash.

You guys (you and buzzion should consider getting a side job as private detectives. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2015 11:03 AM (1+XCd)

218 Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 10:56 AM (zt+N6)


Aha! I always forget about hashes, and in any case I don't usually care enough to go look up an older post compare hashes.

I that Mew Mew wrote just a hair to much like Moo Moo at times. At other times it looked like a rather over-the-top parody...

Posted by: Grey Fox at September 19, 2015 11:04 AM (bZ7mE)

219 Geez people. Is it that hard to look at a hash?


Ah, thank you Buzzion. Still performing valuable Moron services from beyond the grave.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at September 19, 2015 11:04 AM (1xUj/)

220 test

Posted by: socalcon at September 19, 2015 11:04 AM (vHlQ5)

221 It would be great if we could introduce a term for those who continue to support PP that would marginalize them, something like "Planned Parenthood deniers." I mean, these people are definitely denying something evil that is really going on. Maybe "Planned Parenthood holocaust deniers." Use the left's own methods against them.

Posted by: OCD 'Ron at September 19, 2015 11:04 AM (KkliO)

222 "Then realized once again that there must be millions of people in the same denial as she was--that is, if they actually took, I don't know, one minute? to THINK and process what they are defending, the house of cards would collapse.
At least, I'd like to think that...."

They know.

Posted by: Lauren at September 19, 2015 11:04 AM (XDArH)

223 "I see this in full effect in the abortion movement. These people actually think they're God, with the ultimate power over life and death."

Well, here we are.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 11:05 AM (9ORmX)

224 wtf does this mean...
UnicodeEncodeError: 'latin-1' codec can't encode character u'\u2019' in position 117: ordinal not in range(256)

Posted by: socalcon at September 19, 2015 11:05 AM (vHlQ5)

225 Hillary won't debate Dems she wouldn't get in the ring with any Republican. Defeating a Dem in debate only gets you so far anyway.

You have to be popular and people have to like you.

Posted by: blaster at September 19, 2015 11:05 AM (2Ocf1)

226 " Still performing valuable Moron services from beyond the grave."


Poor Buzz. Gone before his time.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 11:06 AM (9ORmX)

227 Posted by: OCD 'Ron at September 19, 2015 11:04 AM (KkliO)

What's wrong with the simple "Deranged Ghouls"?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 19, 2015 11:06 AM (zc3Db)

228 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 19, 2015 10:57 AM (1+XCd)

I figure it is best to live and let live. You believe God is real and I am skeptical about it.

I won't attack or mock believers unless they punch first.


Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 11:06 AM (MQEz6)

229 L, Elle at September 19, 2015 10:37 AM (2x3L+)


Wasn't Jeb! against letting Terry Schivo being allowed to remain alive?

Posted by: Chillin the most at September 19, 2015 11:07 AM (BI43k)

230 214 Btw, Buzzion, I'm glad you're not dead anymore. That meme must have gotten tiring for you I expect.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:03 AM (2x3L+)



I haven't seen that meme stop yet. Its just not constant. Doesn't bother me at all.

Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 11:07 AM (zt+N6)

231 Posted by: socalcon at September 19, 2015 11:05 AM (vHlQ5)

Did you cut and paste from something and try to post it as a comment?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 19, 2015 11:07 AM (Zu3d9)

232 "I see this in full effect in the abortion movement. These people actually think they're God, with the ultimate power over life and death." "

There have been several abortionists who've gotten in hot water for killing born people like their girlfriends and wives.

I guess when all you have is a hammer, everyone looks like a tiny child.

Posted by: Lauren at September 19, 2015 11:07 AM (XDArH)

233 whoa, now 'the media' is all about Rush defending Trump?

That is BS, Rush has not attacked anyone running in 2016 including Pataki, Gilmore etc.

Posted by: Jake at September 19, 2015 11:08 AM (w6XYI)

234 wtf does this mean...
UnicodeEncodeError: 'latin-1' codec can't encode character u'\u2019' in position 117: ordinal not in range(256)

Posted by: socalcon at September 19, 2015 11:05 AM (vHlQ5)


It means that you pasted some text in that has an illegal character in it. Usually that happens if you copy the main post and there's a dash in it or one of the death diamonds, sometimes. You have to delete that illegal character and type in a legal one or Pixy won't let the comment through.

As I said, usually it's the dashes that cause this problem.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 19, 2015 11:09 AM (zc3Db)

235 ignore_user()

or

site:http://acecomments.mu.nu/* whateverhash

Posted by: DaveA at September 19, 2015 11:09 AM (DL2i+)

236
I haven't seen that meme stop yet. Its just not constant. Doesn't bother me at all.

Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 11:07 AM (zt+N6)


Hey, you're the Undead Moron. Any publicity is good publicity. Celebrate it!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2015 11:09 AM (7MWCL)

237 Illegal Alien Using A Fake ID, Arrested At Follow-Up Hospital Appointment

Fake ID

Obamacare for all.

Weasel Zippers

Nothing new there. When I was a Resident way back in 1980-81 at a Newark NJ Hospital, people were using other peoples Medicaid card ALL the time. And ya know what happened to them and then person that gave them the Card? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 11:10 AM (DUoqb)

238 "Wasn't Jeb! against letting Terry Schivo being allowed to remain alive?"

Gather round, children and I'll tell you a story.

Jeb created Failure Theater. He went so far as to write up a friend of the court petition in favor of saving her, but then, when it actually came down to taking a stand, completely abandoned his own previous reasoning and did nothing.

Because, politics.

For that reason alone I would never, ever, EVER vote for him. Terri died an agonizing death and Jeb could have, but didn't, stop it.

Posted by: Lauren at September 19, 2015 11:10 AM (XDArH)

239 Has anyone here been involved with a Medicaid 5 year "look back" when caring for a relative?

Posted by: jwest at September 19, 2015 11:11 AM (Zs4uk)

240 The only thing that makes be believe that the RNC has not completely gone off the rails is the belief that THEY believe that Trump can never win the Presidency. That once he gets the nomination, the spell will wear off and the Dems will throw EVERYTHING at Trump ( I do believe stuff is being held by the DNC/ Media to be used only if Trump gets the nomination) and they will go down in flames anyway.
My belief is
Trump gets nomination? GOP loses.
Trump gets taken out in favor of Jeb!!? GOP loses
Trump goes Third Party? GOP loses.
Trump endorses Dem candidte? GOP loses.
Sanders loses Dem nod and goes Third Party? It's 2000 all over again.

It's gonna be fucked up.
It's pretty fucked up.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 19, 2015 11:12 AM (kRpME)

241 I don't think Jeb wanted to let Terry Schiavo die. He wasn't in it like the others. He just didn't do anything to stop it. Just threw up his hands and said I can't do anything as governor. My hands are tied. The courts have spoken and we have to obey. Very much like what some are saying about gay marriage and Kim Davis.

Who knows though? At this point I think Jeb like his mom and SIL Laura seems to be pro abortion. I don't think he cares about the issue at all

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:12 AM (LImvu)

242 some text in that has an illegal character in it.

paste the original text into this

http://www.unicodetools.com/unicode/convert-to-html.php

edit any irregular text out of the conversion then
cut + paste what's left to the hamster
pray to the ewok god.
post

Posted by: DaveA at September 19, 2015 11:12 AM (DL2i+)

243 As I said, usually it's the dashes that cause this problem.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 19, 2015 11:09 AM (zc3Db)


Yep. There is a character called an "em-dash" which is just a tiny bit longer than the regular keyboard dash. Hard to spot the difference in text on the screen, but it is not supported in Pixy land. Also, the curvy quotes will trip you up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2015 11:13 AM (7MWCL)

244 I;m with Grey Fox. We're in Mary Cloggenstein territory here: MewMew was so far out there, each and every time, I just presumed it was a joke nic. Well, congratulations there Monsieur, you've become a god. So to speak.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 19, 2015 11:13 AM (xq1UY)

245 A point I hadn't seen/heard before (4:38-5:10)- Outrageous hypocrisy: the technology (ultrasound) used by PP to harvest body parts to sell them to (ostensibly) "save" lives is lobbied against by PP to extend to women the opportunity to look at an ultrasound before they make the difficult choice to end the unborn life within them.

Bravo!

Posted by: socalcon at September 19, 2015 11:13 AM (vHlQ5)

246 "I won't attack or mock believers unless they punch first. "


Waves, aren't you a troll.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 11:13 AM (9ORmX)

247 204 Lots of people need to be fired at the federal level. Who better to do the firing than Fiorina or Mr. "You're fired"'Trump. Those 2 are the ones I'm watching the most. I can't see Cruz or Walker doing much firing. Maybe Cruz but he's going nowhere in the polls. Trump I think right now is bleeding support to Fiorina and Carson. Carson is really just awful. His supporters just love him though and are sticking with him. A Trump/ Fiorina ticket would be a juggernaut. They file take down Hilary in a debate so fast and mercilessly just on Benghazi, PP, and the bathroom server. It would be awesome to watch
Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 10:59 AM (2x3L+)



Great thoughts, but I believe the polling reveals movement from Carson to Carly, while Trump still continues to gain a bit.

The GOPe stacked the cards against Ted Cruz (my first pick for a long time) way back last year when they changed primary rules, dates and delegate distribution. Some of this was hidden in the Cromnibus- right after we gave the Senate the majority, they used it to box out Ted.

It appears Cruz knows this, which is why he has not criticized Trump and invited him to the anti Iran deal rally. I don't know, but it might be possible that a Trump/Cruz ticket is in the works?

If Teflon Don could be out front taking the slings and arrows while Cruz goes behind the scenes and dismantles anything Obama, I'm really quite happy with that.

Posted by: parteagirl at September 19, 2015 11:14 AM (K0jlM)

248 What's that noise? It's the collective sound of the left covering their ears and chanting, "La, la, la, la, la, la, I can't hearrrr you!"
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When the topic comes up, I always ask pro PP folks if they have watched the videos. The answer is always 'No'. AND, none of them will watch them, for obvious reasons.

Meanwhile, the media do their part to smother the story.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2015 11:14 AM (9mTYi)

249 Jeb did not want to try to fight the Third Branch of the Florida State Government.

He is useless.

Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 11:14 AM (MQEz6)

250 I'm really glad I'm not dead like Buzzion, I'm pretty sure there are alot of people I wouldn't want to see fapping.... and I'm not sure the one's I wanted to see fapping would eye-bleach the ones I didn't

Posted by: Jake at September 19, 2015 11:14 AM (w6XYI)

251 Gay man to lead Army....Sigh....Wouldn't you like to see the headline: "Most Competent Person :ads Army"?

Yeah not with these FUCKS

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 11:16 AM (DUoqb)

252 When the topic comes up, I always ask pro PP folks if they have watched the videos. The answer is always 'No'. AND, none of them will watch them, for obvious reasons.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2015 11:14 AM (9mTYi)

Just like asking them if they've ever watched Fox News, or ever attended a tea party, or even know a tea partier. It's the Religion of the Holy Closed Mind.

Posted by: rrpjr at September 19, 2015 11:16 AM (s/yC1)

253 I gotta say I sort of love Trump's response to this whole "he didn't say Obama isn't Muslim!!" nontroversy.

Posted by: Lauren at September 19, 2015 11:16 AM (XDArH)

254 I'm hoping we get a football thread before first kickoff today.

Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 11:16 AM (zt+N6)

255 All right, once again, troll.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 11:16 AM (9ORmX)

256 I'm hoping we get a football thread before first kickoff today.
Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 11:16 AM (zt+N6)

Yankees- Mets "kick off" at 1 PM EST today. For what it's worth

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 11:17 AM (DUoqb)

257
246 "I won't attack or mock believers unless they punch first. "


Waves, aren't you a troll.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 11:13 AM (9ORmX)

Nope. I am a regular from way back.

Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 11:17 AM (MQEz6)

258 Lol! Jake

And, I think Moo will eventually go the way of that other rotten troll who kept doing DOS attacks to the blog. He seems obsessed with this place

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:17 AM (LImvu)

259 Interesting anecdote. I was watching the GOP debate the other night with an ex-girlfriend and when Rubio started to speak, she exclaimed "Oh my God, he's gorgeous! He'd get my vote!"

Then without blinking she says, "But he's too young and good-looking to ever win."

Posted by: JoeF. at September 19, 2015 11:18 AM (kRpME)

260 I think I'm dead, at least on my phone as my few and far between comments haven't been showing up here, we'll see if this works from my computer. If not I'm really dead and no one will ever know.

Posted by: traye at September 19, 2015 11:18 AM (yjuy/)

261 Not dead, not dead. Just wounded.

Posted by: traye at September 19, 2015 11:19 AM (yjuy/)

262 "Nope. I am a regular from way back. "


Am I being cat-fished?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 11:19 AM (9ORmX)

263
260 I think I'm dead, at least on my phone as my few and far between comments haven't been showing up here, we'll see if this works from my computer. If not I'm really dead and no one will ever know.
Posted by: traye at September 19, 2015 11:18 AM (yjuy/)

This site is dead-friendly.

Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 11:20 AM (MQEz6)

264 Yup, NGU, Obama has been highly effective at gutting the military and making it go PC and all ghey. It's really remarkable how effective he has been at this one task. It's also very sad.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:20 AM (LImvu)

265 Mark Steyn was on Hannity this week, alongside Mark Levin, and was excellent on Trump. I haven't watched Hannity in a very long time, but this was pretty good TV.

http://bit.ly/1FTH3BP

Posted by: MTF at September 19, 2015 11:20 AM (TxJGV)

266 Am I being cat-fished?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 11:19 AM (9ORmX)

I don't know, do you need a date?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 11:20 AM (DUoqb)

267 Rumor has it that the Republicans might actually use reconciliation to defund PP.

I shall not hold my breath.

Posted by: Lauren at September 19, 2015 11:21 AM (XDArH)

268
262 "Nope. I am a regular from way back. "


Am I being cat-fished?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 11:19 AM (9ORmX)

I am eman. I switched to the present nick because positive waves help a bridge stay up.

Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 11:21 AM (MQEz6)

269 Also, the curvy quotes will trip you up.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
-----------------

I think that is supposed to read "... scurvy quotes.."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2015 11:21 AM (9mTYi)

270 Any idea who that kid they arrested in AZ for the freeway shootings is? I mean what is his deal?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 11:22 AM (DUoqb)

271 So Carly got married at 30 and never had any kids. How many abortions did she have?

Posted by: bjk at September 19, 2015 11:23 AM (InlTW)

272 What a farkd up thread.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 11:23 AM (9ORmX)

273 254 I'm hoping we get a football thread before first kickoff today.

Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 11:16 AM (zt+N6)


{Jonesing for elbows? me, too!}

Posted by: socalcon at September 19, 2015 11:23 AM (vHlQ5)

274 So Carly got married at 30 and never had any kids. How many abortions did she have?

Why assume she had any?

Posted by: Grey Fox at September 19, 2015 11:23 AM (bZ7mE)

275 @258


Somebody wanna check with eman?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 11:25 AM (9ORmX)

276 If not I'm really dead and no one will ever know.

Posted by: traye at September 19, 2015 11:18 AM (yjuy/)

Say hi to Buzzion!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 19, 2015 11:25 AM (Zu3d9)

277 I got into it about PP on Facebook yesterday. And heard the exact same talking points. And what I am doing is making them own up to it. If they are in favor of late term abortions, they need to say that. If they think it's great to sell baby parts, then they need to say it clearly. No more hiding under euphemisms. Make them own it. Make them tell you where they would draw the line

I could feel the force shields going up

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 19, 2015 11:25 AM (Lqy/e)

278 Why assume she didn't have any?

Posted by: bjk at September 19, 2015 11:25 AM (InlTW)

279 Lauren, they are getting a ton of pressure from pro life groups so who knows. They're at least paying attention. This all on McConnell. He is a giant problem. He is exactly like pederast Reid. He doesnt want to do anything about PP. it's just a giant headache for him. They don't know what to do but are finally realizing that this problem isn't going away. They have to do something. Fiorina is not going to stop talking this issue.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:25 AM (LImvu)

280 " How many abortions did she have? "

She says she was unable to have children. Not to be all bitchy here, but assuming the worst about infertile women really is painful to them, even when it's been decades since they were actively trying to have children.

Posted by: Lauren at September 19, 2015 11:26 AM (XDArH)

281 271 So Carly got married at 30 and never had any kids. How many abortions did she have?


Posted by: bjk at September 19, 2015 11:23 AM (InlTW)

what a cold-blooded POS you are.
Your parents must be proud, if they can find your father.

Posted by: socalcon at September 19, 2015 11:26 AM (vHlQ5)

282 PP is a good test platform.

The videos are the challenge and the results are very revealing.

Avoiding the videos does not mean you escaped the test.

You just took the test a different way.

Worthy candidates should challenge MFM folks to watch the videos and to show them to a wide audience.

Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 11:27 AM (MQEz6)

283 what a cold-blooded POS you are.
Your parents must be proud, if they can find your father.
Posted by: socalcon at September 19, 2015 11:26 AM (vHlQ5)

I was thinking how to respond to that despicable comment and then you posted and I agree with you 100% so at my name to your comment. Well Done

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 11:27 AM (DUoqb)

284 I'm much more willing to listen to a woman like Sarah Palin who has 10 kids than a childless crone.

Posted by: bjk at September 19, 2015 11:27 AM (InlTW)

285 Is there any truth to the old myth that the Apache men gave prisoners to
the women, for the real torture. I seem to recall Plains Indians hated
fighting the Apache for that reason especially.


When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.

Posted by: Weirddave at September 19, 2015 11:27 AM (WvS3w)

286 >>> Posted by: bjk at September 19, 2015 11:23 AM (InlTW)

WTF kind of thoughtless comment is this? You're an idiot. Another troll.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:27 AM (LImvu)

287 Why assume she didn't have any?

****

Why nor assume that she's a woman who doesn't sit around waiting on a quick solution to poor planning? Why not assume that she took responsibility in advance and used birth control? Why not assume that, perhaps, she has medical issues preventing pregnancy. Or, perhaps, that her husband has medical issues?

So, let's just not do this, okay?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 19, 2015 11:28 AM (PMlgt)

288 Hectors here.

Posted by: blaster at September 19, 2015 11:28 AM (2Ocf1)

289 Don't talk to the despicable troll. let it rot on the vine and die

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 11:28 AM (DUoqb)

290 OK what odds do you want to give that Carly never had an abortion?

Posted by: bjk at September 19, 2015 11:28 AM (InlTW)

291 Carly got married at 24. First marriage lasted seven years.
A good troll trolls harder, and deeper.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 19, 2015 11:28 AM (xq1UY)

292 hey, the 182nd Oktoberfest started!
(how great is that boobeh's and beer)


I very close friend struggled with infertility, devastating to her.

I would not wish that on anyone

Posted by: Jake at September 19, 2015 11:28 AM (w6XYI)

293 She says she was unable to have children.

Didn't she say she lost a child to drugs during the last debate when they asked about weed?

Posted by: dartist at September 19, 2015 11:29 AM (j/ekO)

294 We're being trolled yet again.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:29 AM (LImvu)

295 "Say hi to Buzzion!"

Hello, Buzz. I know you can't really "respond" from there, so, here's to living.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 11:29 AM (9ORmX)

296 243
There is a character called an "em-dash" which is just a tiny bit longer than the regular keyboard dash. Hard to spot the difference in text on the screen, but it is not supported in Pixy land. Also, the curvy quotes will trip you up.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2015 11:13 AM (7MWCL)


And curvy apostrophes. Those are easy to miss.

Posted by: rickl at September 19, 2015 11:30 AM (sdi6R)

297 Why assume she didn't have any?

Innocent until proven guilty? There is such a think as birth control. There are also such things as naturally occurring miscarriages.

There are many reasons why Carly might not have ever conceived.

Posted by: Grey Fox at September 19, 2015 11:30 AM (bZ7mE)

298 We're being trolled yet again.
Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:29 AM (LImvu)

Yes but you will notice towards the end of the Fiscal Year, when funds are low, we end up getting the bottom of the barrel Trolls.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 11:30 AM (DUoqb)

299 Posted by: JoeF. at September 19, 2015 11:18 AM (kRpME)

LOL

Posted by: @votermom at September 19, 2015 11:31 AM (cbfNE)

300 Y


Super Powers, instigate.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 11:31 AM (9ORmX)

301 I think that is supposed to read "... scurvy quotes.."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2015 11:21 AM (9mTYi)


heh. Hey Mike, what year and model of embossed Oldsmobile valve covers are you seeking? I have a '65 Delta 88 with the 425 in it, but IIRC, the covers are plain.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2015 11:32 AM (7MWCL)

302 And one very big reasoon why she could have had an abortion, that it would have interefered with her career, the only thing that matters to her. Just ask her ex-husband.

Posted by: bjk at September 19, 2015 11:32 AM (InlTW)

303 @285 I cited it earlier, at @124. Kipling's copy book heading on this:

When the early Jesuit fathers preached to Hurons and Choctaws
They prayed to be delivered from the vengeance of the squaws
'Twas the women, not the warriors, turned those stark enthusiasts pale.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.


Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 19, 2015 11:32 AM (xq1UY)

304 OK what odds do you want to give that Carly never had an abortion?
-------------------------

What if she did? What if she had a dozen?

You are trying to deflect from the issue, which is Planned Parenthood.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2015 11:33 AM (9mTYi)

305 Moo is actually an effective troll. He manages to hijack threads and make them revolve around him very successfully. That's bc he's so rich I guess and gets laid all the time by hot women that live in the Niagra Falls area. That combination must be a winner for good trolling.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:33 AM (LImvu)

306 Somebody should ask her if she's ever had an abortion. That would be interesting and totally within the rules.

Posted by: bjk at September 19, 2015 11:33 AM (InlTW)

307 "Please use this thread for politics and the thread below for mirth and merriment."

*********************

I saw Mirth and Merriment open for the Bee Gees back in '78.

Posted by: Semi-engaged scroller at September 19, 2015 11:34 AM (LQLeS)

308 even when it's been decades since they were actively trying to have children.

Posted by: Lauren at September 19, 2015

Yep, I've known several. They a make great aunts but you can always sense the underlying pain.

SIL and her sister had 5 miscarriages between them, each was heartbreaking for the whole family, they both stopped trying because they couldn't face the pain another time.

We named our daughter after my brother (whose wife never had kids), he would have be the best dad. He just lights up every time he sees his namesake but I can always see the pain behind my SILs smiles, although I know she loves that niece is named after my brother.

Posted by: traye at September 19, 2015 11:34 AM (yjuy/)

309 Have you, troll?

Posted by: Grey Fox at September 19, 2015 11:34 AM (bZ7mE)

310 Ahmeds Family And Activists Create Fund Seeking $100,000, Mention Lawyers, Hold Prayer Vigil For Him

Weasel Zippers

What a scam and Fredo has fallen for it lock stock and barrel....kinda like he did in the "negotiations" with Iran.

What a dumb fuck.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 11:34 AM (DUoqb)

311
275 @258


Somebody wanna check with eman?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 11:25 AM (9ORmX)

Ask chemjeff.

I met him and some ettes at Disneyland a few years ago.

We ate dinner in a decent little restaurant.

chemjeff sat on the end of the table, I sat opposite bebe, next to her was Rum, and next to me was Arhooley.

After, jeff left and the ettes and I went to the park and did Disney stuff.

Not sure if I am flattered our perturbed you thought of me as a troll.

Interesting.

Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 11:34 AM (MQEz6)

312 283 what a cold-blooded POS you are.
Your parents must be proud, if they can find your father.
Posted by: socalcon at September 19, 2015 11:26 AM (vHlQ5)

I was thinking how to respond to that despicable comment and then you posted and I agree with you 100% so at my name to your comment. Well Done

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 11:27 AM (DUoqb)
===========================

This. 2x.

Posted by: MTF at September 19, 2015 11:35 AM (TxJGV)

313 "What if she did? What if she had a dozen? "

My sister had an abortion. I don't like them.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 11:35 AM (9ORmX)

314 95% of parents who have Downs syndrome fetuses get abortions. Tons of hypocrisy on the issue. That's means that only a very small percentage of those people opposed to abortion are actually sincerely against abortion.

Posted by: bjk at September 19, 2015 11:35 AM (InlTW)

315 hot women that live in the Niagra Falls area. That combination must be a winner for good trolling.
Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:33 AM (LImvu)

Is that where the lying POS says he and his evil spawn live?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 11:35 AM (DUoqb)

316 Interesting anecdote. I was watching the GOP debate
the other night with an ex-girlfriend and when Rubio started to speak,
she exclaimed "Oh my God, he's gorgeous! He'd get my vote!"



Then without blinking she says, "But he's too young and good-looking to ever win."

Posted by: JoeF. at September 19, 2015 11:18 AM (kRpME)


Yay 19th Amendment.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 19, 2015 11:36 AM (oKE6c)

317 "Interesting.
Posted by: Positive Waves"


Okay, sound like a nut.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 11:36 AM (9ORmX)

318 eman is a long time poster. for real. positive waves/eman is not a nut

Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 11:37 AM (zOTsN)

319 That was a shitty thing to say about Carly; there are plenty of reasons why a woman may not be able to conceive.
But to entertain your asshole thought....so what if she DID have an abortion?
People can't 'evolve" on this issue? Or regret choices she made when she was younger??

If a women has an abortion at 17 or 25 or 40 , does she now have to support abortion for the rest of her life? Is that how it works?

Posted by: JoeF. at September 19, 2015 11:38 AM (kRpME)

320 Carly is doing well.

Notice the shortage of Pataki trolls.

Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 11:38 AM (MQEz6)

321 >>>
Posted by: traye at September 19, 2015 11:34 AM (yjuy/)

Yes, it is incredibly sad. A friend of mine from college had 4 stillbirths. Can you imagine the pain and horror or carrying a baby to term and then delivering a dead child. The only good part was after the 4 stillbirths she did finally have a child.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:38 AM (LImvu)

322 A homeless man convicted of trashing a Colorado national forest with more than four tons of garbage was sentenced earlier this week to prison.

Benjamin Yoho, 41, was given a six-month sentence behind bars after a judge found him guilty of littering a large area of Uncompahgre National Forest north of Telluride, Fox 31 Denver reports.


???

Maybe he was trying to get a cot and 3 hots a day?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 11:39 AM (DUoqb)

323 " eman is a long time poster. for real. positive waves/eman is not a nut"

Thunder, eman and Positive are the same guy?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 11:39 AM (9ORmX)

324
318 eman is a long time poster. for real. positive waves/eman is not a nut
Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 11:37 AM (zOTsN)

Thank you.

Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 11:39 AM (MQEz6)

325 Uh oh, feminists falling in love with Carly.
Hillary is not gonna like this!

Tweet from Cosmopolitan mag:

"@CarlyFiorina is the candidate I wanted Hillary Clinton to be" https://twitter.com/Cosmopolitan/status/644979218670030848

Posted by: @votermom at September 19, 2015 11:39 AM (cbfNE)

326 Cruz on Hannity said he wasn't playing the game of inter republican fighting and wouldn't be trolled into it.

Posted by: skip at September 19, 2015 11:40 AM (7L6zt)

327 heh. Hey Mike, what year and model of embossed Oldsmobile valve covers are you seeking? I have a '65 Delta 88 with the 425 in it, but IIRC, the covers are plain.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
---------------

Alberta - Yeah. Didn't provide enough info. Sorry.
They were made over many years. The key is that they have "Oldsmobile" stamped on them. Look like these:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/pbzbvoh

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2015 11:40 AM (9mTYi)

328 Now we're debating assertions a nameless idiot pulls out of his ass?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 19, 2015 11:40 AM (oVJmc)

329 No, NGU, Moo lives in Washington state, I believe. He first came on the blog telling everyone he was going to move to Canada. He also used to brag about his prowess in bed and talk about all the hot girls be used to bang when he was in college at some Ivy League school.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:41 AM (LImvu)

330 My wife suffered a miscarriage and I have known women who tried and failed to have kids.

Only a very twisted troll would go there.

Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 11:42 AM (MQEz6)

331 Wow, OK. So now whether Carly herself ever killed a baby doesn't matter? That's really lowering the bar. I thought you guys were supposed to be outraged by this kind of thing, now it's totally out of bounds to even raise the question.

Posted by: bjk at September 19, 2015 11:42 AM (InlTW)

332 I am stunned.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 19, 2015 11:43 AM (9ORmX)

333
329 No, NGU, Moo lives in Washington state, I believe. He first came on the blog telling everyone he was going to move to Canada. He also used to brag about his prowess in bed and talk about all the hot girls be used to bang when he was in college at some Ivy League school.
Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:41 AM (LImvu)

Any chance moo is honest cloud or Seattle Slough?

Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 11:44 AM (MQEz6)

334 Oh Positives Waves is eman? I liked eman as your nic better. Why'd you change it?

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:44 AM (LImvu)

335 bjk, have you ever looked up the definition of "relevant?" Might be a good idea to do so.

Posted by: Grey Fox at September 19, 2015 11:44 AM (bZ7mE)

336 Only a very twisted troll would go there.





Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 11:42

Be hard to find someone so twisted when talking about PP/baby chop shop. Not like their supporters are next level twisted.

Posted by: traye at September 19, 2015 11:45 AM (yjuy/)

337 Somebody should ask her if she's ever had an abortion. That would be interesting and totally within the rules.
Posted by: bjk
------------------

So, how would that affect the argument about PP? Answer: Not at all.

You are simply, by unfounded innuendo, trying to shift the topic.

Morons should know better than to be sucker-played by such a lame troll.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2015 11:45 AM (9mTYi)

338 I'd give 3-1 odds she's seen the inside of an abortion clinic.

Posted by: bjk at September 19, 2015 11:45 AM (InlTW)

339 Fuck. Bjk is moo.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:45 AM (LImvu)

340 bjk you have to have a basis in fact before making such an assertion


otherwise its a "when did you stop beating your wife" sort of question

its not out of bounds to raise a question, but there should be some kind of basis in fact

I could just as forcefully argue that she believed when she was told in the 80s and 90s that she could put off child birth indefinitely

I have no proof of that either

Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 11:46 AM (zOTsN)

341 Any chance moo is honest cloud or Seattle Slough?

Wow. I had forgotten them...what was their schticks? I've forgotten.

Posted by: Grey Fox at September 19, 2015 11:46 AM (bZ7mE)

342 So it's not "relevant" but if she said "yes, I had an abortion" it would torpedo her campaign, correct? It's relevant.

Posted by: bjk at September 19, 2015 11:46 AM (InlTW)

343 re #130 ....
Lauren, you're talking about something I've just gotten onto recently .... I remember Pelosi saying abortion was a sacrament a few years ago, and thinking that it was just an over-the-top metaphor. The PP videos have forced me to realize that she had (inadvertently, no doubt) spoken the literal truth - it is a sacrament to them.

Who and what are they worshipping with this sacrament of theirs ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 19, 2015 11:47 AM (S0bOl)

344
334 Oh Positives Waves is eman? I liked eman as your nic better. Why'd you change it?
Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:44 AM (LImvu)

Partly due to laziness. positive waves was a sock and I was too lazy to change back. I also like it as a reference to a Moron-loved movie.

Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 11:47 AM (MQEz6)

345 I've only seen Seattle Slough once on thread bc Ace wanted him to answer his post. Ace insists SS is a decent old poster.
So, Idont really know.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:47 AM (LImvu)

346 bjk,

Have you ever had sex with a goat?

Posted by: Grey Fox at September 19, 2015 11:48 AM (bZ7mE)

347 95% of parents who have Downs syndrome fetuses get abortions. Tons of hypocrisy on the issue. That's means that only a very small percentage of those people opposed to abortion are actually sincerely against abortion.

Posted by: bjk at September 19, 2015 11:35 AM (InlTW)


You do realize, don't you, that one can support, or at least grudgingly accept, the legality of abortion very early in the course of pregnancy, especially for a valid reason, while also being completely opposed to late-stage abortion and the mutilation/murder of babies born alive? Not everyone who is generally uncomfortable with abortion is an absolutist about it.


But keep burning that straw man.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2015 11:48 AM (7MWCL)

348 I'll give even odds bjk has seen the inside of his own colon.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 19, 2015 11:49 AM (oVJmc)

349 bjk when did you check your self out of the nut house?

see what I did there? I made an assertion I had no basis in fact for and left you on the defensive

See that was the whole point. Not finding out if you had ever been in the nuthouse


Seems to be your whole point too. Florina cant be trusted on abortion based solely on your feels

Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 11:49 AM (zOTsN)

350 Moo is so rich, he has a hot LIV wife, before her he bedded so many hot babes. He went to an Ivy League school where all his kids will go to one so they can be rich like him.

Moo is obviously 15 years old and posting from moms basement. The biography is just over the top ridiculous

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:50 AM (LImvu)

351 293 She says she was unable to have children.

Didn't she say she lost a child to drugs during the last debate when they asked about weed?
Posted by: dartist at September 19, 2015 11:29 AM (j/ekO)

Stepdaughter

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 19, 2015 11:50 AM (9jeGC)

352 So any other issues on which utter hypocrisy from the candidates is copacetic? Apparently candidate behavior is now out of bounds, I did not know that. Maybe Santorum is gay married, not that it matters.

Posted by: bjk at September 19, 2015 11:51 AM (InlTW)

353 What are the odds that bjk is acutually Blow-Job King, who hangs around the docks, offering blow-jobs to sailors?

It is relevant question, and ought to be asked.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2015 11:52 AM (9mTYi)

354 "254 I'm hoping we get a football thread before first kickoff today."

Alabama/Ole Miss should be a really interesting game.

Roll Tide and fuck the GOP!

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at September 19, 2015 11:52 AM (u5gzz)

355 161 >>Like Carson, I believe Carly is the GOPe flavor of the week to take out Trump.
She entered the race over a month before Trump.
Posted by: Y-not at September 19, 2015 10:40 AM (0Iy+I)
*******
She's not my candidate, but if she was a GOPe plant, she'd have more money.
I think she's gotten increased coverage because she's campaigned effectively. Also, Trump clumsily taking swings at her drew more attention to her campaign.
I went from being mildly offended that she was the "token girl" (I'd have preferred Governor Haley) to being impressed by her staying on message and, as I mentioned above, by her appearing to have a core conservative value that I share: namely, being stridently pro-life. That latter thing is certainly NOT a quality of the Beltway set.
I would like her to beef up her campaign page with some description of what she thinks are the top challenges facing the U.S. and what she'd do about it, but of the complete outsider candidates (as defined by people who've never held political office), she's my top pick.
Posted by: Y-not at September 19, 2015 10:51 AM (0Iy+I)


Do not underestimate this woman.
As you point out, she got into the race before Trump.
As several point out, she has some 'splainin to do about supporting Hillary!, etc., and about poor business decisions.

I suspect Trump has already made the arguments about switching positions (D to R) for her, beginning with buying off politicians and ending with business practices and reasons.

A little tuning and wordsmithing and another razor sharp speech will probably come out, making her look like Reagan and Trump look like Al Gore.

She has made Trump blush once already, and now knows which parts of his defenses work well.

I trust her far more than I trust Trump.
I think Trump would love the presidency because if you think "the Clinton Foundation" is a cash cow, just imagine what you could rake in selling ex-presidential real estate.

Posted by: jwb7605 at September 19, 2015 11:52 AM (M+9nV)

356 I notice that bjk is avoiding answering my question. I'd say that the odds that he has have gone up considerably.

Posted by: Grey Fox at September 19, 2015 11:52 AM (bZ7mE)

357 I am old enough to remember when the entire media universe was telling every adult women that they could have it all and they could postpone child birth forever, or at least into their 40s

it was never true. But many older women with careers bought into it when they were young women

Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 11:52 AM (zOTsN)

358 It's funny how all the people who believe that abortion should be a matter of public concern suddenly escape into "it's a private matter, none of your business!" That's interesting.

Posted by: bjk at September 19, 2015 11:53 AM (InlTW)

359 The same guy who told Harry Reid that Romney hadn't paid his taxes for ten years told bjk about Carly's 57 abortions.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 19, 2015 11:53 AM (oVJmc)

360 So far, Trump, Carly, and Cruz remain on my "You Don't Suck" list.

Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 11:53 AM (MQEz6)

361 352 So any other issues on which utter hypocrisy from the candidates is copacetic? Apparently candidate behavior is now out of bounds, I did not know that. Maybe Santorum is gay married, not that it matters.


Posted by: bjk at September 19, 2015 11:51 AM (InlTW)


What utter hypocrisy you brain dead reject? You are wildly speculating based on no information. Carly never had children so she must have had an abortion? Fuck you. You have no evidence other than the sick fantasies in your head.

Posted by: buzzion at September 19, 2015 11:54 AM (zt+N6)

362 Alberta - Yeah. Didn't provide enough info. Sorry.
They were made over many years. The key is that they have "Oldsmobile" stamped on them. Look like these:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/pbzbvoh

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2015 11:40 AM (9mTYi)


Oh. I thought it was the '50s ones with Oldsmobile Rocket embossed on them. That old Delta 88 might have covers similar to those in your link. I will have to have a look when I get home. I could part with them, since if I ever use the engine in a hot rod, I could go with some nice finned aluminum covers.


I will keep an eye peeled for a set.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2015 11:54 AM (7MWCL)

363 Funny how speculation suddenly becomes something we must take seriously, guys, when it is the troll speculating.

Posted by: Grey Fox at September 19, 2015 11:54 AM (bZ7mE)

364 I feel it coming: I'd give the Troll under 10 minutes before it calls one of us a nazi.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 11:54 AM (DUoqb)

365 Carly did a great service to give that answer in front of 23 million eyes. People that don't want to talk about it now have to. It demands media coverage, even if they lie. It shames the GOP.

As a campaign, she's been damn near perfect. She is prepared, and able to think on her feet as well. Connecting Iran to PP in a response is impressive nimbleness. She used the standard Trump insisted upon for Jeb against Trump one minute later. The way she sliced and diced Chris Matthews. She is very talented. I know she has the HP and Lucent records to defend.


I just want to know that a politician will use those talents to advance some voter interests, and I'm not sure anyone can know with any certainty one way or the other with Carly. That PP answer gives some hope. I know she is not the type of outsider people assume, or she portrays.

Posted by: Dave S. at September 19, 2015 11:56 AM (mhkbv)

366 'bjk'

Initials strangely close to a convicted domestic terrorist of this blog's acquaintance.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 19, 2015 11:56 AM (oVJmc)

367 bjk lets ask that of all the women candidates, should we?

lets ask all the male candidates if they had gay sex ever?

lets ask when they stopped having abortions and gay sex!

Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 11:56 AM (zOTsN)

368 Hey, all I'm suggesting is that she be asked the question. Perfectly reasonable, but the hysterics on this thread apparently believe that abortion is such a private matter that her own behavior is out of bounds.

Posted by: bjk at September 19, 2015 11:56 AM (InlTW)

369 Do not interact with the troll. If you want to engage it only do so to insult it.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:56 AM (LImvu)

370 The troll is basically using the when did you stop beating your wife argument.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 19, 2015 11:57 AM (9jeGC)

371 Trolls thrive on attention. Deprive them of it. Do not feed the beast.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:57 AM (LImvu)

372 It's funny how all the people who believe that abortion should be a matter of public concern suddenly escape into "it's a private matter, none of your business!" That's interesting.
----------------------

Only to those who confuse private matters with public policy, or want to conflate the two in order to disparage an individual.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2015 11:57 AM (9mTYi)

373 bjk when did you stop swatting people who disagree with you

Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 11:57 AM (zOTsN)

374 Alberta - Thnx. Not a big deal.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2015 11:58 AM (9mTYi)

375 I think it is perfectly reasonable to ask the troll if he/she has ever had sex with a goat. The refusal to answer is suggestive...

Posted by: Grey Fox at September 19, 2015 11:58 AM (bZ7mE)

376 It's not a private matter. Abortion is not a private matter, that's what the pro-life people believe. You guys need me to tell you what your own position is?

Posted by: bjk at September 19, 2015 11:58 AM (InlTW)

377 Ya'll have fun. I need coffee.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:58 AM (LImvu)

378 bjk, why did you abuse the court system

Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 11:59 AM (zOTsN)

379 So, how about those Mets?

Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 11:59 AM (MQEz6)

380 Geez, I have a killer headache. Ibuprofen is not working.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:59 AM (LImvu)

381 Posted by: bjk at September 19, 2015 11:58 AM (InlTW)

Abortion is either a private matter and funded accordingly, or a public matter and funded accordingly.

Is your sex life with farm animals public or private?

Posted by: jwb7605 at September 19, 2015 12:00 PM (M+9nV)

382 Is 'bjk' the aborted love-child of Elizabeth Warren and Mohammed Atta? or is he merely a self-blowing contortionist? I need to understand the context of his psychosis. it's relevant.

Posted by: raising the question at September 19, 2015 12:00 PM (W+K5f)

383 sorry NGU but the Mets are all kinds of awesome

Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 12:00 PM (zOTsN)

384 bjk reminds me of the punch line to an old and gruesome joke:


"Mommy!"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2015 12:01 PM (7MWCL)

385 and as more fun Rex Ryan is trolling Bill Bellichek a bit and its pretty funny

Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 12:01 PM (zOTsN)

386 It's noon, and time for the Fightin' Falcons to manfully take their whoopin' from honorable Spartans of East Lansing. Commentator wrong already, says MSU has never played an Academy before. They did, back when Army was a Power.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 19, 2015 12:01 PM (xq1UY)

387 357--you are absolutely correct. Women's libbers sold women a bill of goods about careerism and postponing childbirth. There are many regretful women (and husbands and ex-husbands as well) because of this lie.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 19, 2015 12:01 PM (kRpME)

388 It's not a private matter. Abortion is not a private matter, that's what the pro-life people believe. You guys need me to tell you what your own position is?
Posted by: bjk
---------------

See? There you go again.
The issue raised was regarding harvesting of "parts" from viable babies, and the Federal funding of same.

Are you ADD or something? You seem to have some difficulty staying on topic.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 19, 2015 12:02 PM (9mTYi)

389 Mets fan too

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 12:02 PM (LImvu)

390
Don't feed the trolls.

Posted by: GBruno at September 19, 2015 12:02 PM (u49WF)

391 I don't think that anyone has argued that abortion is a private affair. That is just another misdirection by the troll...

Are trolls trained to do this kind of thing? I couldn't be so slickly sophist is I tried.

Posted by: Grey Fox at September 19, 2015 12:02 PM (bZ7mE)

392 So I suppose the fact that Ted Kennedy killed MJK is a private matter? So can we now stop endlessly hearing about it every time his name is mentioned? It's not relevant.

Posted by: bjk at September 19, 2015 12:02 PM (InlTW)

393 Also Red Sox. I'm either going Patriots Red Sox this year or Chiefs Royals

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 12:03 PM (LImvu)

394 not fun, the Texans have no quarterback and need to rely on JJ Watt for some offense

not kidding

Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 12:03 PM (zOTsN)

395

Always liked the Mets.

They were fun to watch in '69.

Not so much in '86.

Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 12:03 PM (MQEz6)

396 393 Also Red Sox. I'm either going Patriots Red Sox this year or Chiefs Royals
Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 12:03 PM (LImvu)


The Chiefs certainly showed the Broncos a thing or five Thursday evening ...

Posted by: jwb7605 at September 19, 2015 12:04 PM (M+9nV)

397 troll is flailing blindly, now. Sounds like hector. Must be a slow day at the glory hole.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2015 12:04 PM (7MWCL)

398 The Broncos suck

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 12:04 PM (LImvu)

399 sorry NGU but the Mets are all kinds of awesome

Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 12:00 PM (zOTsN)

they are playing well

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 12:05 PM (DUoqb)

400 The Broncos suck
Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 12:04 PM (LImvu)


Suck all the way to 2-0?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 19, 2015 12:05 PM (DUoqb)

401 Geesh, JJ Watt? I don't know what wrong with that team. They need a new GM. They have sucked cosnisisntlh since their formation as a team

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 12:06 PM (LImvu)

402 Why are Carly's "failures" with Lucent and HP fair game but Hillary's failures in government not?

Also, Republican candidate with experience in business can't win, huh? Romney was pilloried endlessly for his stellar business career--which disqualified him for the presidency in the eyes of many, while it's Carly's failures that disqulify her now.
Democrats have it both ways.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 19, 2015 12:06 PM (kRpME)

403 sorry NGU but the Mets are all kinds of awesome pond scum

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 19, 2015 12:07 PM (oVJmc)

404 GOG/MAGOG 2016
What he hell?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at September 19, 2015 12:07 PM (Nwg0u)

405 398 The Broncos suck
Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 12:04 PM (LImvu)


Offense seems to. Defense: you wish.
What we do need in Colorado, though, is some radio announcer who can yell "ROCKIES WIN! ROCKIES WIN!" like the immortal Cubs had. With the same frequency.

Posted by: jwb7605 at September 19, 2015 12:07 PM (M+9nV)

406 Actually, my work here is done. No effective arguments were made against the reasonable position that Carly should be asked if she's a hypocrite or not. Clever puns on the Latin for "womb" were employed. Fun was had by the troll.

Posted by: bjk at September 19, 2015 12:07 PM (InlTW)

407 I hate Elway. I can't support his team anymore. And Peyton. Not good. He needs to hang it up and get out.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 12:08 PM (LImvu)

408 380 Geez, I have a killer headache. Ibuprofen is not working.
Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 11:59 AM (LImvu)

Hope you feel better soon L

Posted by: @votermom at September 19, 2015 12:08 PM (cbfNE)

409 TROLL LOST! TROLL LOST!

Posted by: jwb7605 at September 19, 2015 12:08 PM (M+9nV)

410 well have an enjoyable day terrorist

Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 12:09 PM (zOTsN)

411 Yankee fan who always hate Met fans. But the team is real good this year and I wouldn't be surprised if they go all the way.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 19, 2015 12:09 PM (kRpME)

412
This "thing" needs to move along. There is an Alex Jones website out there somewhere.

Posted by: GBruno at September 19, 2015 12:09 PM (u49WF)

413 HILLARY/CTHULHU 2016
Just say no to impeachment!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at September 19, 2015 12:09 PM (Nwg0u)

414 Alberta Oil Peon, could you drop me an email? My nic at gmail. I have a car question to ask you

Posted by: Weirddave at September 19, 2015 12:09 PM (WvS3w)

415 Heh.

Checking his mug shot, the aforementioned convicted domestic bomber is only 5'5".

So short-man's disease.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 19, 2015 12:09 PM (oVJmc)

416 on the plus side, JJ Watt has announced he is looking for a girlfriend

Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 12:09 PM (zOTsN)

417 troll is talking to himself now

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 12:10 PM (LImvu)

418 norman bates like

Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 12:10 PM (zOTsN)

419
I'll bet 2 quatloos that the troll will be back under a different nic.

Posted by: GBruno at September 19, 2015 12:11 PM (u49WF)

420 I hear the Mets are using underinflated balls.

Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 12:11 PM (MQEz6)

421 Thanks votermom. It's stress related. I've had a shitty couple of days.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 12:12 PM (LImvu)

422 JJ Watt has announced he is looking for a girlfriend

The drummer for The Rolling Stones?

Posted by: that guy who skims the comments at September 19, 2015 12:12 PM (9gpTh)

423 Lol! PW, and whiffle ball bats

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 12:13 PM (LImvu)

424
421 Thanks votermom. It's stress related. I've had a shitty couple of days.
Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 12:12 PM (LImvu)

Be wary of dehydration. It can cause headaches, too.

Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 12:13 PM (MQEz6)

425 JJ Watt has announced he is looking for a girlfriend

The drummer for The Rolling Stones?


The former Oklahoma congressman.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 19, 2015 12:13 PM (oVJmc)

426 402 Why are Carly's "failures" with Lucent and HP fair game but Hillary's failures in government not?

Also, Republican candidate with experience in business can't win, huh? Romney was pilloried endlessly for his stellar business career--which disqualified him for the presidency in the eyes of many, while it's Carly's failures that disqulify her now.
Democrats have it both ways.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 19, 2015 12:06 PM (kRpME)


-----


If that is in response to me, I don't think the business record has to disqualify her. I just think she has to respond to them, as she did in the debate.

Right now she's on the top of my list. I liked her since she was trolling Hillary at the start. She is an impressive person. They all have some weaker areas they need to defend, and she looks like the candidate that prepared herself the most, so I want to see how well she does it.

Posted by: Dave S. at September 19, 2015 12:13 PM (mhkbv)

427 Hmmm. That might be what it is. I don't drink enough water.

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 12:14 PM (LImvu)

428 Texans only have two functional running backs and they may need to use Watt. Its only week 2. Houston, we have a problem

Posted by: ThunderB at September 19, 2015 12:14 PM (zOTsN)

429
427 Hmmm. That might be what it is. I don't drink enough water.
Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 12:14 PM (LImvu)

It is often is the culprit for me. Stress or being too busy makes me skip drinking enough water. Boom, headache.

Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 12:16 PM (MQEz6)

430 ThunderB how can you watch them? They're so awful

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 12:16 PM (LImvu)

431 They're worse than the Astros who were never good

Posted by: L, Elle at September 19, 2015 12:17 PM (LImvu)

432 A history of firing some people can be useful when discussing the VA, IRS, EPA, and every other alphabet soup agency out there.

Posted by: Dave S. at September 19, 2015 12:18 PM (mhkbv)

433
425 JJ Watt has announced he is looking for a girlfriend

The drummer for The Rolling Stones?

The former Oklahoma congressman.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 19, 2015 12:13 PM (oVJmc)

He was in the Rolling Stones?

Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 12:18 PM (MQEz6)

434 Is there anything more despicable than an abortion troll?

Posted by: Fritz at September 19, 2015 12:18 PM (3tjn4)

435 The drummer for The Rolling Stones?

Posted by: that guy who skims the comments at September 19, 2015 12:12 PM (9gpTh)


That's Charlie Watts. He has had a side project, a swing band, IIRC. Check it out, he's a fine musician.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2015 12:19 PM (7MWCL)

436 He was in the Rolling Stones?

No, he served in the Reagan administration and was forced to resign after saying something about "cripples" back when PC bullshit started shifting into overdrive...

Posted by: JoeF. at September 19, 2015 12:20 PM (kRpME)

437 Be wary of dehydration. It can cause headaches, too.

Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 12:13 PM (MQEz6)

Yeah, if I'm dehydrated when I go to bed I wake up with a sinus headache. Also if the air is dry I wear a knitted hat to bed, pulled down over my face. Keeps my sinuses from drying out.

Posted by: @votermom at September 19, 2015 12:21 PM (cbfNE)

438 434 Is there anything more despicable than an abortion troll?
Posted by: Fritz at September 19, 2015 12:18 PM (3tjn4)

Annoying little Molochites.

Posted by: @votermom at September 19, 2015 12:22 PM (cbfNE)

439 He was in the Rolling Stones?



No, he served in the Reagan administration and was forced to resign
after saying something about "cripples" back when PC bullshit started
shifting into overdrive...


No, he invented the steam engine.

Learn your history, peeple!

Posted by: Troll at September 19, 2015 12:22 PM (oVJmc)

440 JJ Watt has announced he is looking for a girlfriend

--

Did he check Lost & Found?

Posted by: @votermom at September 19, 2015 12:24 PM (cbfNE)

441 Sir Martin Gilbert died earlier this year. He was Churchill's official biographer, but IMO the most important book he wrote was "The Holocaust". This is a hard book to read because the detail is so gruesomely overwhelming it forces you to acknowledge the existence of evil on a massive scale, you are left wondering how people can possibly do these things, in many cases eagerly, to other human beings. It really is also a warning of how easily people can find justifications for the most evil practices and how they think they can claim innocence as long as they are not participating personally. Highly relevant to the discussion. Book should be required reading in high school, fluff like state history like required in my state and many others could be discarded to make room for a really important work.

RIP Sir Martin.

Posted by: JHW at September 19, 2015 12:24 PM (w+zdY)

442 Charlie Watts tentet, "Take the A Train":


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48WphtBkS4A

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 19, 2015 12:30 PM (7MWCL)

443 "51
>>Knew he was arrested. Thought it on legit reasons, though.



Yeah, it may well be legit - it was just the timing, as well as the
fact that in TX the effective Republicans always end up getting
arrested/investigated for something. Maybe a TX 'ron or 'ette could
enlighten us as to whether this one seemed legit or more of the "let's
take out another Republican!" variety.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 19, 2015 09:54 AM (NOIQH)"

If it came out of the Travis County District Attorney's Office, you should probably assume that it is bullshit. Most of those people were hired by Ronnie Earl.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at September 19, 2015 12:31 PM (QHgTq)

444 "52
If one studies the Nazi approach to the elimination of their victims,
they advocated that there would be fewer stomachs placing a demand on
food resources.



Normal people would just increase the food supply.



Just sayin'...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 19, 2015 09:55 AM (LUgeY)"

In addition to being a vegetarian, Hitler was a Malthusian environmentalist. Like most socialists he was a zero-sum believer.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at September 19, 2015 12:33 PM (QHgTq)

445 395

Always liked the Mets.

They were fun to watch in '69.

Not so much in '86.

Posted by: Positive Waves at September 19, 2015 12:03 PM (MQEz6)


I remember rooting for the Mets in 1973, when they won the NL East with an 82-79 record, the lowest winning percentage in history. They still managed to take the World Series all the way to Game 7.

I recall reading in the last week of the season that it was mathematically possible for there to be a five-way tie for first in that division. Who was #6? My Phillies, of course.

Posted by: rickl at September 19, 2015 12:44 PM (sdi6R)

446 I haven't seen any coverage of that super-important Heritage thingy that Trump didn't go to yesterday.

Should I search or did no one cover it since Trump wasn't there?

Posted by: Meremortal at September 19, 2015 12:50 PM (1Y+hH)

447 Lizzy - thank you for the video.

We have a President that voted several times in the Illinois State Senate to allow the shelving of babies that survived an abortion. In a closet, with no medical or nutritional care. You may have read the story of one nurse who held the baby until it died because she did not want it to be alone.

It is heartbreaking and monstorous. We will pay a huge price for this if we can't turn around the character and morality of our nation.

Posted by: Cheri at September 19, 2015 12:53 PM (ZFPMM)

448 Searched for Heritage campaign event. Only entries are from yesterday saying Trump wouldn't be there.

Heh.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 19, 2015 12:59 PM (1Y+hH)

449 He was in the Rolling Stones?

No, he served in the Reagan administration and was forced to resign
after saying something about "cripples" back when PC bullshit started
shifting into overdrive...

No, he invented the steam engine.

Learn your history, peeple!


He was a wild west gunslinger known as "Killer Watt."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 19, 2015 01:02 PM (W5DcG)

450
I haven't seen any coverage of that super-important Heritage thingy that Trump didn't go to yesterday. Should I search or did no one cover it since Trump wasn't there?
Posted by: Meremortal




Heritagefest is every bit as important as that loyalty oath that was immediately forgotten as soon as Trump signed it. Also, that RedState orbital-wank he was dis invited from.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 19, 2015 01:03 PM (kdS6q)

451 Lady in Black was at the Heritage event, and reported about it in the morning thread, or maybe the ONT.

Posted by: rickl at September 19, 2015 01:05 PM (sdi6R)

452 The Broncos have a very good defense and an aged quarterback with diminishing skills. I don't know if anyone better was available.

Manning requires excellent pass protection and a good running game to offset his shortcomings. He is still a great field general and leader. He has a young o-line. If they improve, Manning will do better. If they don't, he won't.

Beating the Chiefs at home is quite an accomplishment. Manning threw one interception, Elway had a habit of throwing about 4 a game when he played there.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 19, 2015 01:05 PM (1Y+hH)

453 Posted by: rickl at September 19, 2015 01:05 PM (sdi6R)

Thanks, because it seems that other than her report, the event was a well-kept secret. I'll go look.

Posted by: Meremortal at September 19, 2015 01:07 PM (1Y+hH)

454 Man, Fiorina is great on this subject. I'm not seeing the other candidates doing this nearly as much

Posted by: bour3 at September 19, 2015 01:12 PM (5x3+2)

455 Found Lady in Black's report on the Heritage event in the morning thread and it's great, thanks Lady!

Sounded basically like a pep rally for Republicans, but I was glad to hear that Cruz did well and was well supported.
LiB's comments are well worth reading but this was not an event that will influence the campaign.

Weakest

Posted by: Meremortal at September 19, 2015 01:17 PM (1Y+hH)

456 If Bergdahl goes to trial, do you request a panel, or judge only? If you want a panel, do you request enlisted members?

Posted by: Fox2! at September 19, 2015 01:19 PM (brIR5)

457 I still treasure having been at the '86 NLCS at the Astrodome between the Mets and Astros. 16 innings of peak baseball. Yeah, we lost but what a game!

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 19, 2015 01:53 PM (JO9+V)

458 The thing with these apparent "plants", and the agitprop they generate ... the clock kid, looks like obvious plan. And it seems they must have everything from news releases and WH visits planned out in advance.

Same with the Trump question ... full day attack, almost like it was coordinated. Of course some things just "go viral", but these things seem to have more coordination.

I'd like to see Trump actually put a team together ... Giuliani for one, and show he can acquire real substance on the issues. He is doing some of that, but in debate it seems he is not up to speed like some others, who have clearly been rehearsing. Maybe Trump is just a buffoon, but he's in the best position to take on the establishment. He just needs to really "apply himself" to the CEO/statesman side of being POTUS, not just the reality show celebrity electioneering side.

Or maybe he doesn't have that side and is just a spoiled rich kid. In which case I have to hope Cruz isn't too hated by his own party, or the Walker revives, or accept Carly despite her moderate record, and the fact she hasn't had a job lately.

Posted by: Illiniwek at September 19, 2015 02:02 PM (6zZ5y)

459 Young Ahmed with the Radio Shack clock kit he "invented" has a great future ahead of him. He'll get into an elite college (thanks to a nice letter of recommendation from ex-president Obama). He'll blame his struggle for good grades (because he doesn't strike me as that bright) on "racism" and "Islamophobia." But the school administration and Diversity Coordinators will drag him across the finish line.

That, sadly, will be the high point of Ahmed's life. After that he'll have a series of jobs which he will fail at, blaming "racism" and "Islamophobia" again. Eventually he will either find his natural level as a token at some heavily Lefty outfit which won't care how bad he is -- or he'll "self-radicalize" and get killed.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 19, 2015 02:07 PM (BJN55)

460 The rapes have already started in Germany:

http://bit.ly/1F6Jp5z

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 19, 2015 02:15 PM (Lqy/e)

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