Morning Thread (9-15-2015)

Are we sure Mike Judge isn't just filming Idiocracy 2: The Road To Camacho here?

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Posted by: mallfly at September 15, 2015 06:31 AM (vcI3n)

2 Good Morning Morons. Today is Tuesday, September 15, 2015. On this day in 1966 U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson, responding to a sniper attack by Charles Whitman at the University of Texas at Austin, wrote a letter to Congress urging the enactment of gun control legislation. This is always the way of Democrats. A crackpot shoots some people and they call for more gun control, which has been proven to never work and it only inconveniences honest people. He got his wish in 1968 after Robert Kennedy was shot by a Palestinian Arab with Jordanian citizenship who was never supposed to own a gun to begin with.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:31 AM (t2KH5)

3 As some suspected would happen, the MS college shooter committed suicide.

http://fxn.ws/1KbLfie

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:31 AM (t2KH5)

4 With Obama's great pussy foreign policy America's enemies are pushing the boundaries all over the world.

China is putting airstrips on those disputed islands in the Pacific

http://fxn.ws/1NA9EnG

The Norks are beginning to act up once again.

http://fxn.ws/1LdJJjW

And Russia is moving tanks and troops into Syria near US troops and building an airstrip.

http://fxn.ws/1irMzXD

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:32 AM (t2KH5)

5 Obama's "pen and phone" have created a new and totally useless foray into rating colleges in the US. A new department that will only grow over time and begin trying to exert even more government control over colleges. If we had an opposition party they would defund this crap and stop it.

http://fxn.ws/1gnW73P

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:32 AM (t2KH5)

6 Germany has resumed train service to ship the muzzie migrants in from Austria. And this highly biased Fox/AP report is full of shit.

Germany has been the final destination for many refugees trying to escape the violence in their homeland that has them caught between President Bashar Assad's forces and terror groups like ISIS. They have either traveled over land via Turkey and the Balkans or braved the dangerous Mediterranean Sea crossing to Italy or Greece.

These are not refugees from Syria. The bulk of these people are males who have been living in Turkey for a long time and want to go to Germany for free shit. Even the picture they put up showing a family with women and children is BS because these are only a very small minority of the people going into Germany.

http://fxn.ws/1QeeyEj

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:32 AM (t2KH5)

7 yaaay.

wanted to watch Trump last night, couldn't getoff the phone. Anyone watch? Any thoughts? I noticed he was just using some cards for notes. Clearly not presidential if he can't speak from a teleprompter.

Posted by: mallfly at September 15, 2015 06:33 AM (vcI3n)

8 And Obama is admitting 280,000 muzzie migrants from the ME every year already and wants to increase that number. And he is doing that with no approvals from congress even though it is greater than the amount allowed by law. The US already admits more immigrants legally than all the other industrialized nations combined. And that does not count the flood of illegals coming in from South of the border. This is not sustainable.

http://bit.ly/1QdpyBP

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:33 AM (t2KH5)

9 And the commie Pope weighs in with his reason for the "refugee crisis"; the God of money. Well, I guess that is true, but not in the manner he means. These migrants are headed for Germany for liberal welfare benefits, which they will be on permanently.

http://bit.ly/1VYH1SD

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:33 AM (t2KH5)

10 Marines involved in the "study" of placing women in Marine combat units say the Navy secretary threw them under the bus. A better description would be he is throwing out their results and putting his and Obama's political views instead.

http://wapo.st/1VYEF62

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:33 AM (t2KH5)

11 Contrary to the lies told by Paul Ryan and Obama that trade deal with China and other Asian nations does have a chapter on loosening immigration requirements. Yes, the RNCe got this bill through because they do not give a shit for the base, only big business who wants cheap labor at the expense of American workers who are now at 20% unemployment. We are already allowing 1 million foreign immigrants per year and with 20% unemployment that is insane. And Paul Ryan and Obama want to increase that number.

http://bit.ly/1MnRC7L

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:34 AM (t2KH5)

12 Another win for Obama. The US who used to be ranked 2nd on the economic freedom list has now dropped to 16. Is there any doubt why the economy is mired in the second great depression?

http://washex.am/1F9LOMH

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:34 AM (t2KH5)

13 Trump got 20,000 at his TX rally.

http://bit.ly/1VZBCur

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:34 AM (t2KH5)

14 Commie Sanders platform is just what you would expect from a commie. He wants to see the US in last place on the economic freedom chart and all the citizens living in a 1950s style USSR.

http://bit.ly/1M82e7T

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:34 AM (t2KH5)

15 The KY cop killer was one of the protesters at Ferguson and had a long criminal history.

http://bit.ly/1M8nOt0

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:35 AM (t2KH5)

16 New evidence shows that Scankles was involved with those weapons shipments to Benghazi.

http://bit.ly/1KPc9SE

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:35 AM (t2KH5)

17 The reason for the current war between Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck.

http://bit.ly/1id9QMf

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:35 AM (t2KH5)

18 Lindsay Graham triples down on stupid (he doubled down long ago). He referenced the 1883 poem that was written on a plaque and tacked to the Statue of Liberty in 1883 (The old give use your refuse poem) as a reason for letting in another huge wad of ME muzzies above the 280,000 per year we are already letting in. The statue of liberty was never intended to give license for unlimited migration. The plaque was written by a liberal at a much later day and has not basis in law at all.

http://bit.ly/1iLq7IF

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:36 AM (t2KH5)

19 The Republicans in the House opposed to Boner have now reached the critical number of 29. Unless he gets some Democrat votes he is history.

http://bit.ly/1icb5uW

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:36 AM (t2KH5)

20 And Bitch McConehead tells the base to STFU and let business groups have the power in the Republican Party. We truly have no Party.

http://bit.ly/1OR529O

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:36 AM (t2KH5)

21 I hate that I miss comment sections, and Willow. Mostly Willow. I got left at the ONT and no one told me. I hate that, and we should end Willowing in our society.

Posted by: Jessica Valenti at September 15, 2015 06:36 AM (TxJGV)

22 Ramirez

http://bit.ly/1KjD1Ud

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:36 AM (t2KH5)

23 Iran is continuing unabated in building a bomb after Obama's phony deal. I (and BB) blame Corker, a RINO.

http://bit.ly/1VZDrrb

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:37 AM (t2KH5)

24 The real reason for the AGW scam is shown once again.

http://bit.ly/1NArqal

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:37 AM (t2KH5)

25 Thomas Sowell on the rise of Trump.

http://bit.ly/1EZHbF8

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:37 AM (t2KH5)

26 The Daily Deals

http://amzn.to/1EZHiQU

That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:37 AM (t2KH5)

27 re 14: and I saw yesterday that he wants to break up the big banks. He doesn't seem to understand that his kind of gov't wants a few big banks because it's easier to run everything from the gov't when you have fewer people to order around.

Posted by: mallfly at September 15, 2015 06:37 AM (vcI3n)

28 6 Germany has been the final destination for many refugees
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Wait, I'm confused; what century is it again? This news writer seems to think it's the 20th.

Posted by: MTF at September 15, 2015 06:39 AM (TxJGV)

29

DAY 1,043

420 to go (493 to Inauguration Day 2017)

Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, Mao-suits, McCain's, McConnell's, Mahdi megatons, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, mewling mattress myth manufacturers, marriage maimers, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Myrmidons, Mugwumps, Monrovian microbes, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microaggressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 15, 2015 06:40 AM (St6BJ)

30 re 28: Ithink the Germans are trying to deal with a labor shortage. Birth rates in W Europe are well below rates needed to just keep the population level. Did I say the correctly? It's early.

Posted by: mallfly at September 15, 2015 06:41 AM (vcI3n)

31 23 Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:37 AM (t2KH5)

Meanwhile, the Norks are directly threatening to attack us with nukes.

At Puffington.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 15, 2015 06:41 AM (St6BJ)

32 One other thing about that stupid 1883 poem. In 1883 we had no massive welfare system. If you came into this country it was root hog or die. You had to get a job, learn English, and WORK. That is no longer true. We are letting in millions of low skill migrants who will go immediately onto the welfare system because there are no "job" that they can do and most of the new ones don't want a job anyway.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:43 AM (t2KH5)

33 30 re 28: Ithink the Germans are trying to deal with a labor shortage. Birth rates in W Europe are well below rates needed to just keep the population level. Did I say the correctly? It's early.
Posted by: mallfly at September 15, 2015 06:41 AM (vcI3n)

You are right. The Krauts are not pumping them out at all and it will kill their wunderbar welfare state. They need people. They, like a lot of socialist states aborted the hell out of themselves since the end of the war.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 15, 2015 06:43 AM (St6BJ)

34 27 Posted by: mallfly at September 15, 2015 06:37 AM (vcI3n)
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If anyone else wants to get rid of big banks dominance, like I do, lets start with getting rid of Dodd-Frank. Small banks can't afford the compliance costs from that law and are merging or going out of business all over the country.

Why, it's almost as if the big banks actually wrote the damn thing, in order to give themselves a competitive advantage! Oh wait, maybe that is exactly what happened.

Posted by: MTF at September 15, 2015 06:45 AM (TxJGV)

35 28
6 Germany has been the final destination for many refugees

=======================

Wait, I'm confused; what century is it again? This news writer seems to think it's the 20th.

Posted by: MTF at September 15, 2015 06:39 AM (TxJGV)

I don't understand your comment. Germany has been the final destination for most of these migrants. And that is because it has a much larger payout in welfare.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:45 AM (t2KH5)

36 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 15, 2015 06:45 AM (u82oZ)

37 And Fall really has set in here in SC. It is 47.8F right now.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:47 AM (t2KH5)

38 34 Posted by: MTF at September 15, 2015 06:45 AM (TxJGV)

Dodd Frank essentially surrenders the banking system to the government and another unelected politburo that has no accountability and absolute power to crush anyone and any entity.

That, Obamacare and Sarbanes-Oxley should be prime targets for the next prexy. Along with everything else that leaves us in chains and with a target on our heads from overseas aggressors.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 15, 2015 06:48 AM (St6BJ)

39 33 The Krauts are not pumping them out at all and it will kill their wunderbar welfare state
=====================

They may have a "wunderbar welfare state" but their biggest concern is they have so many fewer German workers in this next generation, even while businesses are expanding. It's tough to mix cultures, though, and they'll find the "Syrians" aren't Germans when it comes to work ethic.

Posted by: MTF at September 15, 2015 06:48 AM (TxJGV)

40 38 That, Obamacare and Sarbanes-Oxley should be prime
targets for the next prexy. Along with everything else that leaves us
in chains and with a target on our heads from overseas aggressors.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 15, 2015 06:48 AM (St6BJ)

When was the last time Republicrats got rid of a massive Democrat socialist program? This will never happen,

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:49 AM (t2KH5)

41 40 When was the last time Republicrats got rid of a massive Democrat socialist program? This will never happen,
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:49 AM (t2KH5)

I didn't say the likelihood of something happening. I merely stated what needs to get done.

And who knows the future?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 15, 2015 06:50 AM (St6BJ)

42 Can anyone migrate to Germany and live there for free? 'Cuz I'm sick of working and I like jaegerschnitzel.

Posted by: FireHorse at September 15, 2015 06:51 AM (N/zKS)

43 35 It was the "final destination" wording, which struck me as similar to "final solution". When these migrants try settling into Germany it'll eventually provoke attacks of the Germans on the migrants. It'll be final all right.

Posted by: MTF at September 15, 2015 06:51 AM (TxJGV)

44 When was the last time Republicrats got rid of a massive Democrat socialist program? This will never happen,

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:49 AM (t2KH5)

The globalists want us to keep the programs because the programs cripple us. Both parties are working together towards the destruction of the United States and its replacement with an international regime alien to our Constitution and law. It's the only rational explanation for why the Republicans have joined the Democrats in ramrodding the Obama agenda through.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 06:52 AM (J+mig)

45 41 And who knows the future?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 15, 2015 06:50 AM (St6BJ)

I do, it is Monty DOOM because as soon as we get rid of Obama people will find out unemployment and inflation both are at 20% plus and the shit is going to hit the fan.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:52 AM (t2KH5)

46 Thanks for the news this am Vic.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 15, 2015 06:54 AM (JO9+V)

47 I realize I sound like I belong on a conspiracy theory board, but with all of the Soros money pushing the Leftist agenda, and the fact that Europe and the US are both drowning under similar refugee influxes, and that in at least the US and UK (and doubtlessly in other places) there's been a merger of Left and Right parties to push the same agenda...

It really does start to look like a conspiracy to destroy the West and replace it with some Lefty utopian fantasy.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 06:55 AM (J+mig)

48 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes. Thanks for the morning news, Vic.

Today is the birthday of Vina Fay Wray (1907).

http://goo.gl/Vy5T9s

If you haven't been reading the website Seraphic Secret, you should. The author is Hollywood writer / producer Robert J. Avrech (Body Double, The Devil's Arithmetic), a self-described "religious Zionist, Republican, movie fanatic, gun owner." His blog is a great place not only forserious discussion of the Israel - Palestine conflict, but for trenchant observations on modern Tinseltown and its Golden Age ancestor.

Avrech did a three-part post on Wray, excerpting from her autobiography On the Other Hand, revealing the beasts in this beauty's life, including an alcoholic, cheating husband, an incestuous brother and a child-abusing brother-in-law.

Part One: http://goo.gl/JOIqQT

Part Two: http://goo.gl/ia482t

Part Three: http://goo.gl/tV0OEY

Hope you all have a wonderful day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 15, 2015 06:56 AM (zF6Iw)

49 45 Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:52 AM (t2KH5)

Maybe a good dose of virulent DOOM is just the emetic this sick society needs. It's gonna get it anyway, so there's that.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 15, 2015 06:56 AM (St6BJ)

50 >>> Mike Judge isn't just filming Idiocracy 2: The Road To Camacho here?

It's the only explanation that makes sense.

Posted by: fluffy at September 15, 2015 06:57 AM (2iV3X)

51 Observation...

We're getting used to hearing about the GOP "Donor Class" supporting immigration, legal or illegal, for cheap labor.

Isn't it more logical, that what they really want is an expanded consumer base?

There's risk in hiring illegals, but none when selling to them.

Jus' thinking out loud.

Posted by: franksalterego at September 15, 2015 06:58 AM (Fh+WR)

52 Black Lives Matter! only if shot by white cop

Chicago: 1 dead 10 shot right on average for any day in Chicago...

Baltimore: WJZ: It was a bloody weekend in the city, More than a dozen shot, including a nine-year-old girl. It's the second child injured in gunfire in just two weeks.

Posted by: Colin at September 15, 2015 06:58 AM (eoM8x)

53 47 It really does start to look like a conspiracy to destroy the West and replace it with some Lefty utopian fantasy.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 06:55 AM (J+mig)

We are currently letting in app 1 million immigrants a year into the US legally. almost all of them are zero skill from third world shit-holes. The US can not continue this and survive.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:59 AM (t2KH5)

54 Well, ok then...

Guess he said "bite me" one too many times

http://tinyurl.com/olyyskz

Posted by: mojo at September 15, 2015 07:00 AM (OmBeX)

55 We are currently letting in app 1 million immigrants
a year into the US legally. almost all of them are zero skill from
third world shit-holes. The US can not continue this and survive.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:59 AM (t2KH5)

And god knows how many more illegally. It's madness of the highest grade, but our "leaders" are bound and determined to keep ramming it through and dump people with no connection to our country and no ability to support themselves here faster than they can be assimilated.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 07:01 AM (J+mig)

56 55 And god knows how many more illegally.

I have seen some reports that estimate as many as 10,000 per day.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 07:02 AM (t2KH5)

57 Morning all. Back to work after a 4 day weekend. Ugh.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 15, 2015 07:03 AM (W4LFA)

58 @44- Cato

^This

Posted by: teej at September 15, 2015 07:06 AM (NqaQ9)

59 Can anyone migrate to Germany and live there for free? 'Cuz I'm sick of working and I like jaegerschnitzel.
_______________________

I was struck yesterday by an interview with some of the "refugees." They were saying that they wanted to go to Germany because Germany pays better refugee "salaries" than Hungary does. Of course, what they're talking about are welfare benefits, but how long before we are forbidden from saying "welfare" anymore because it might hurt some mooching "immigrant's" feelings? You know it's coming.

Also, LiveLeak had several videos up showing how hostile and aggressive these "refugees" really are -- throwing rocks at native Europeans, tossing the water bottles they were given onto the train tracks, stealing food from the back of a charity truck & then throwing it away. Makes you wonder what these "refugees" are going to do if they don't get the big "salaries" they're expecting, or if their unlucky host country tries to reduce or end their "salaries" after a few years.

All those burning cars and nights of "disaffected" muzzie "yoots" rioting in France are soon going to seem like kids' play.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 15, 2015 07:06 AM (a31sM)

60 It was an absolutely beautiful day here yesterday. Clear blue skies with a high of 80F. I had a tough time resisting the urge to hit the porch rocker. Today is supposed to be a repeat.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 07:06 AM (t2KH5)

61 43 35 It was the "final destination" wording, which struck me as similar to "final solution". When these migrants try settling into Germany it'll eventually provoke attacks of the Germans on the migrants. It'll be final all right.
Posted by: MTF at September 15, 2015 06:51 AM (TxJGV)

As completely distasteful as it is to even think this, whatever skinheads Germany has may be their last bulwark against full-on Islamification, which is really fucked up.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2015 07:07 AM (FGIR8)

62 Actually, it's "Idiocracy 2: The Road to Lake Titicaca."

Posted by: Mike Judge at September 15, 2015 07:08 AM (cL79m)

63 Newark's Mayor Baraka is calling for a "Marshall Plan' for Newark and American cities to bring 'attention' to their plight.

http://tinyurl.com/puzjzq9

and by 'attention', he means billions of dollars in 'investments'

If I recall, the rebuilding of Europe under the Marshall Plan also involved a martial force of US troops to maintain civil order . . . I suspect Newark would not be so eager for that part of the plan.

Posted by: McCool at September 15, 2015 07:08 AM (H/bVO)

64 Makes you wonder what these "refugees" are going to do if they don't get the big "salaries" they're expecting, or if their unlucky host country tries to reduce or end their "salaries" after a few years.

I expect them to die, Mr. Bond.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 15, 2015 07:09 AM (W4LFA)

65 First day in office, I call in the heavies and order a rendition of that capo Soros to Malaysia

Posted by: President Jean at September 15, 2015 07:11 AM (ztOda)

66 63 Newark's Mayor Baraka is calling for a "Marshall Plan' for Newark and American cities to bring 'attention' to their plight.
...

Hey, Mista Maya - kiss my Bayonne.

Posted by: mojo at September 15, 2015 07:11 AM (OmBeX)

67 Vic,
Thanks for the A.M. links.

Also: thanks for sticking all the URLs on a separate line, it's MUCH more convenient (and my current pet peeve, so thanks).

Short version:
Thanks!

Posted by: TJ Camper at September 15, 2015 07:11 AM (tie/0)

68 63
Newark's Mayor Baraka is calling for a "Marshall Plan' for Newark and American cities to bring 'attention' to their plight.

Posted by: McCool at September 15, 2015 07:08 AM (H/bVO)

Their socialist policies in these Democrat hell-holes is what killed those large urban areas. They want more of the same. Of course a large portion of those federal dollars will go into politicians and cronies pockets and they will continue to be hell-holes.

And my question to that asshole is this. Why should I in Podunk, SC pay for your incompetent running of the cities in NJ?

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 07:12 AM (t2KH5)

69 Lord, Give us grace and strength to persevere. Give us courage and joy and the quiet mind.

Robert Louis Stevenson

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 07:12 AM (dKQ1C)

70 Their socialist policies in these Democrat
hell-holes is what killed those large urban areas. They want more of the
same. Of course a large portion of those federal dollars will go into
politicians and cronies pockets and they will continue to be hell-holes.

And my question to that asshole is this. Why should I in Podunk, SC pay for your incompetent running of the cities in NJ?

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 07:12 AM (t2KH5)

All Socialism ever does is redistribute wealth from the public to the friends and family of the bureaucracy. You'd think people would catch on.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 07:14 AM (J+mig)

71 44 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 06:52 AM (J+mig)

Well that's my point since forever. BUT that said, the political sands are shifting under the feet of DC. IF - IF - IF the appropriate agent is installed in the Oval Office, then we have a shot at revising course or at least seriously doing damage to the Leviathan.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 15, 2015 07:15 AM (St6BJ)

72 Local NY papers report NY State spends $21,812 per student. National average is $10,700. Yet city schools have poor records of attendance and graduation.
While technical colleges have record levels of Asian students. Blacks just don't want to have an education, when so much is free to them.

Posted by: Colin at September 15, 2015 07:15 AM (eoM8x)

73 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 07:12 AM

How did your interview at the school board go?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 15, 2015 07:15 AM (vZ9f2)

74 70 All Socialism ever does is redistribute wealth from
the public to the friends and family of the bureaucracy. You'd think
people would catch on.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 07:14 AM (J+mig)

This is a good book that illustrates the impact of socialist policies.

http://amzn.to/1FcmYvq

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 07:17 AM (t2KH5)

75 I expect them to die, Mr. Bond.
________________

Well somebody is going to die, that seems certain. No way this is going to end without bloodshed.

Meanwhile, here in America we find out that that TPP trade deal does, contrary to the lies told to the American people, contain immigration provisions that will increase the number of foreigners allowed to come into the U.S. Because that's how law-making is supposed to work in our democratic republic, right? Our lawmakers agree to secret deals, then blatantly lie to our faces about those deals before passing them into law.

There will be blood, and it won't just be in Europe. The only question now is, how much?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 15, 2015 07:17 AM (a31sM)

76 Overheard in the sacristy:

"The congregation's a bit thin this morning," said the Vicar. 'Did you tell them I was preaching?'' 'No, Vicar, I didn't,' replied the churchwarden, 'but you know how things get out.' "

The Anglican Digest

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 07:17 AM (dKQ1C)

77 75 Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 15, 2015 07:17 AM (a31sM)

And those lies were not just pushed by Obama but also by that former Republican darling Paul Ryan. See #11 above.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 07:19 AM (t2KH5)

78 Our lawmakers agree to secret deals, then blatantly lie to our faces about those deals before passing them into law.

Don't forget the known unknown side deals.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 15, 2015 07:21 AM (W4LFA)

79 "It is important for your health to have an attitude of gratitude, When you wake up in the morning, do you say, Good Lord, morning!'? or do you say "Good morning, Lord!'

George Goldtrap

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 07:22 AM (dKQ1C)

80 A sign in an apartment window in Los Angeles read:
"Drums for sale." In an adjoining apartment window, another sign proclaimed: "Thank God."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 07:24 AM (dKQ1C)

81 8 And Obama is admitting 280,000 muzzie migrants from the ME every year already and wants to increase that number. And he is doing that with no approvals from congress even though it is greater than the amount allowed by law.

Oh come on, Congress would be only too happy to approve. The Uniparty will never limit "immigration".

Posted by: Bystanders at September 15, 2015 07:25 AM (3o++7)

82 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 15, 2015 07:15 AM (vZ9f2)

How kind of you to ask, brother. :^) It's tonight at 6:30. There are two vacancies and 12 people applying to fill them.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 07:26 AM (dKQ1C)

83 81 Oh come on, Congress would be only too happy to approve. The Uniparty will never limit "immigration".

Posted by: Bystanders at September 15, 2015 07:25 AM (3o++7)

I suspect with the rise of Trump they may think twice about that.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 07:27 AM (t2KH5)

84 >>>>We are currently letting in app 1 million immigrants

a year into the US legally. almost all of them are zero skill from

third world shit-holes. The US can not continue this and survive.
.
.
.
.It is really the only way the Fed can keep the Ponzi scheme known as Social Security afloat in the short term. It will only work for another 10-15 years or so and then the fun starts. Benefit cuts and huge tax increases. It's gonna be a blast!

Posted by: 1980s Strategic Command at September 15, 2015 07:28 AM (iONHu)

85 84 It is really the only way the Fed can keep the Ponzi
scheme known as Social Security afloat in the short term. It will only
work for another 10-15 years or so and then the fun starts. Benefit cuts
and huge tax increases. It's gonna be a blast!

Posted by: 1980s Strategic Command at September 15, 2015 07:28 AM (iONHu)

That assumes these no-skill migrants get a job and pay into SS. So far most of them do not.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 07:29 AM (t2KH5)

86 82 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 07:26 AM (dKQ1C)
============================

Best wishes for success FS!

Posted by: MTF at September 15, 2015 07:29 AM (TxJGV)

87 @80- FS
Heh- should get off my backside and sell most of mine, including some late 60's Ludwig's.
And my Fender Bullet Deluxe
And Fender Super Twin Reverb
And Yamaha EMX-5000
And...

Posted by: teej at September 15, 2015 07:30 AM (NqaQ9)

88 "It is important for your health to have an attitude of gratitude, When you wake up in the morning, do you say, Good Lord, morning!'? or do you say "Good morning, Lord!'

I've got to admit, my mornings are much more the former than the latter.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 15, 2015 07:30 AM (zF6Iw)

89 good morning

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 15, 2015 07:30 AM (0O7c5)

90 They are letting these migrants in because they are guaranteed Democrat voters.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 07:30 AM (t2KH5)

91 Headline on local paper's website this morning:

"Police kill North County man wanted in fatal shooting of Kentucky state trooper"

Now of course, this being the St. Louis Post Disgrace, you know who else was a "north county man" killed by police?

Yep, the Gentle Mangiant from last August.

Is it possible to write a more incendiary (and misleading) headline? I can't imagine how.

These clowns must be jerking each other off over their cleverness today. More killings = more money for the local rag, I guess.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2015 07:31 AM (Dj0WE)

92 Thanks, MTF

I appreciate that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 07:31 AM (dKQ1C)

93 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 15, 2015 07:33 AM (ZQfW9)

94 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 15, 2015 07:30 AM (zF6Iw)

Well, that was honest of you. :^) Consider making a list of the all the things in your life and people you are grateful for and look at it regularly.

And rent "The Trouble With Angels". It will make you laugh. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 07:34 AM (dKQ1C)

95 Our Daily Bread devotional:

"God's compass"

http://odb.org

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 07:36 AM (dKQ1C)

96 "It is important for your health to have an attitude of gratitude, When you wake up in the morning, do you say, Good Lord, morning!'? or do you say "Good morning, Lord!'

I've got to admit, my mornings are much more the former than the latter.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 15, 2015 07:30 AM (zF6Iw)

I know lots of people believe God has an active hand in the day to day operations of this world. If you do, I don't know how you are not furious with Him at this time.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2015 07:36 AM (Dj0WE)

97 These clowns must be jerking each other off over their cleverness today. More killings = more money for the local rag, I guess.

If it bleeds, it leads.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 15, 2015 07:40 AM (W4LFA)

98 So, that asshole Ray Mabus (Navy secretary who just impugned the integrity of the Marine Corps the other day) was at the Royals/Indians game last night, throwing our the first pitch. Believe it or not, this twerp is traveling around throwing out first pitches in MLB stadiums so he "can connect to the American people".

Teh stupid, it burns.

Posted by: MTF at September 15, 2015 07:41 AM (TxJGV)

99 Fenelon- re the list
If you haven't gone to utube and searched 'true north live at liberty hall' yet, I think you'd appreciate it.
The song is "Waiting for Angels."

Posted by: teej at September 15, 2015 07:42 AM (NqaQ9)

100 I've got to admit, my mornings are much more the former than the latter.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 15, 2015 07:30 AM (zF6Iw)

My mornings... well, late evenings when I wake up due to works schedules, anyway... always tend to be of the variety where I don't achieve sentience until caffeine hits my bloodstream. I have a feeling I'm not the only one here with that issue.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 07:42 AM (J+mig)

101 It's all Service to the Party for them.

G'mornin', Horde !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 15, 2015 07:42 AM (OCcU9)

102 "If we had an opposition party they would defund this crap and stop it."

What an astonishing coincidence! I too have begun to harbor occasional speculations about a hypothetical "opposition party", and how such a notional party might behave if one actually existed.

Look for my upcoming book on the subject. It will be found in the Science Fiction and Fantasy section of your local bookstore.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 15, 2015 07:44 AM (noWW6)

103 If it bleeds, it leads.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 15, 2015 07:40 AM (W4LFA)

It's one thing to report murder and mayhem, it's another to pour gasoline on the fire. We're in the middle of a race war.

In case people haven't noticed.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2015 07:44 AM (Dj0WE)

104 The first words typically out of my mouth in the morning can't be printed in a family newspaper.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 15, 2015 07:45 AM (FGIR8)

105 Avrech did a three-part post on Wray, excerpting from her autobiography On the Other Hand.

Well there's my answer.

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 15, 2015 07:45 AM (BO/km)

106 What an astonishing coincidence! I too have begun to
harbor occasional speculations about a hypothetical "opposition party",
and how such a notional party might behave if one actually existed.

Look for my upcoming book on the subject. It will be found in the Science Fiction and Fantasy section of your local bookstore.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 15, 2015 07:44 AM (noWW6)

The DemPublicans remind me of the old Reagan joke about the Communist Party. If the Soviets ever allowed another party to be created, they'd still be a one-party system because everybody would join the other one.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 07:47 AM (J+mig)

107 We're about due for a new PP Video Drop.
It's been awhile.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 15, 2015 07:47 AM (W4LFA)

108 I don't know how you are not furious with Him at this time.

Actually, for me it's more along the lines of "Thank you, Lord, for all the blessings you have given us, and please forgive us for having squandered so many of them".

The attitude that God owes us something, instead of the other way around is wrong.

Posted by: GMan at September 15, 2015 07:47 AM (sxq57)

109 "Believe it or not, this twerp is traveling around throwing out first
pitches in MLB stadiums so he 'can connect to the American people'."

As the naval service he oversees steadily shrinks into insignificance.

Barring a radical robotic revolution in shipbuilding with enormous improvements in productivity and unit cost, there just isn't going to BE much of a United States Navy starting early next decade.

And of course our old friends the unions would, and will, resist such revolution strenuously. They'll work harder to stop it than they ever would on building an actual ship.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 15, 2015 07:49 AM (noWW6)

110 >>>>We are currently letting in app 1 million immigrants

a year into the US legally.
______________________________

Actually, that is the number congress legally allows. But Obama has been exceeding the congressionally-imposed limits for years now. He has been handing out visas and green cards like Halloween candy. (But don't worry, congress is aware Obama is violating the law, and they're going to hold hearings!)

I don't know what is more maddening: Obama's blatant lawlessness; Congress' toothlessness in challenging Obama's blatant lawlessness; the media's willingness to hide the facts about both; or the public's obliviousness to it all (although the Trump surge seems to indicate the latter may be ending).

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 15, 2015 07:51 AM (a31sM)

111 109 As the naval service he oversees steadily shrinks into insignificance
========================

A strategy (of shrinking the navy) that didn't work out very well when Franklin Roosevelt tried it.

Posted by: MTF at September 15, 2015 07:54 AM (TxJGV)

112 It is really the only way the Fed can keep the Ponzi scheme known as Social Security afloat in the short term.

Posted by: 1980s Strategic Command at 7:28 AM
________

Social Security is NOT a Ponzi Scheme!!! Please, stop deriding this program by calling it that. Not only is it pejorative, it's intellectually dishonest.

(It's a pyramid scheme.)

Posted by: FireHorse at September 15, 2015 07:55 AM (N/zKS)

113 "Local NY papers report NY State spends $21,812 per student. National average is $10,700."

I actually think the national average is higher than that.

Commiefornia spends about $13K/student/year.

Note that public education is one of THE most costly social goods provided to immigrants, illegal or legal. And it cannot be denied to illegally resident children. So say the black-robed radicals.

Even if low-wage, low-skilled Pedro and Maria are legal immigrants who "work hard and play by the rules", if Pedro and Maria have even one kid in a public school, they've got to be paying an impressive chunk in taxes just to offset what's being spent by the rest of the USA to educate just that one kid.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 15, 2015 07:55 AM (noWW6)

114 For those that didn't see it, this is the background behind the article by Jonathan Haidt which Ace posted
earlier this week. It also has to do (briefly) with cognitive therapy-and you are what you think:

http://tinyurl.com/px9bld2

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 07:55 AM (dKQ1C)

115 I will look for that video, teej. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 07:56 AM (dKQ1C)

116 Posted by: GMan at September 15, 2015 07:47 AM (sxq57)

Amen.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 07:58 AM (dKQ1C)

117 Sanders is a boring old fool. It's truely amazing that he is so popular until you look at the alternatives. Then it becomes mind boggling that Clinton and Biden are the alternatives.

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 15, 2015 07:58 AM (BO/km)

118 MTF: ...Wait, I'm confused; what century is it again? This news writer seems to think it's the 20th....

Vic: ...I don't understand your comment....

Oh, good. I didn't either. I thought it was just that the coffee hadn't kicked in yet.

Morning, Glories! Still catching up, while waking up. A full load of Vic News Network this morning. Good start.

Still Autumn this morning here in the middle of America, although I understand we'll be reverting to Summer later this week.

Posted by: mindful webworker - no artificial ingredients at September 15, 2015 07:58 AM (D5XRv)

119 Morning horde.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at September 15, 2015 08:01 AM (9jeGC)

120 The President has weighed in and yesterday declared anti-immigration comments to be thought crimes.

Posted by: MTF at September 15, 2015 08:01 AM (TxJGV)

121 120
The President has weighed in and yesterday declared anti-immigration comments to be thought crimes.

Posted by: MTF at September 15, 2015 08:01 AM (TxJGV)

If he knew what I really thought about him he would call it a hate crime.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 08:03 AM (t2KH5)

122 "If we had an opposition party they would defund this crap and stop it."

Running against it is actually more useful politically than actually stopping it and therefore is the higher priority. Duh, if you actually stop it, you lose it as a campaign and fund raising issue. See, abortion. See also, Obamacare.

Posted by: McConnellBoehner at September 15, 2015 08:03 AM (QolCq)

123 120 The President has weighed in and yesterday declared anti-immigration comments to be thought crime

F' that guy in particular.

Posted by: Dr freakenfurter at September 15, 2015 08:03 AM (BO/km)

124 Running against it is actually more useful
politically than actually stopping it and therefore is the higher
priority. Duh, if you actually stop it, you lose it as a campaign and
fund raising issue. See, abortion. See also, Obamacare.

Posted by: McConnellBoehner at September 15, 2015 08:03 AM (QolCq)

Hell, just look at how the Democrats have been making Social Security (fixing it, preserving it, or just plain keeping it broken) an issue for the past 50 years... that's not a new trick. If you solve a problem, you can't run on it again next time!

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 08:05 AM (J+mig)

125 113 "Local NY papers report NY State spends $21,812 per student. National average is $10,700."

School districts, teacher unions and politicians have a vested interest in making the per student yearly total as small as possible. They use accounting tricks like excluding fixed assets (like building maintenance) and only reporting ongoing expenses like salaries.

The Washington Post reported in 2011 that the actual per student per year expenditures in Baltimore, New York and Washington, D.C. was in excess of $28,000. This reporting took a lot of digging and was extremely difficult, as everyone with access to all the numbers want them hidden.

When real world accounting practices are applied taking the costs of pensions, healthcare and the rest into account, the number is much higher.

Posted by: jwest at September 15, 2015 08:06 AM (Zs4uk)

126 120
The President has weighed in and yesterday declared anti-immigration comments to be thought crimes.

Posted by: MTF at September 15, 2015 08:01 AM (TxJGV)

Plusgood to know, comrade.

Posted by: Cato, Doubleplusungood Thought Criminal at September 15, 2015 08:06 AM (J+mig)

127 I know lots of people believe God has an active hand in the day to day operations of this world. If you do, I don't know how you are not furious with Him at this time.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2015 07:36 AM (Dj0WE)

**shrug**

I'm a very bad Catholic, for reasons I won't go into. But my attitude concerning God these days is, if He didn't show His hand at Auschwitz, He's not going to do anything about us now.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 15, 2015 08:06 AM (zF6Iw)

128 Basically, ya talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded.

Posted by: Dr. Lexus at September 15, 2015 08:06 AM (J9rqz)

129 Obama has declared opposition to immigration to be
"un-American".

Defying the Rule of Law, dudes marrying each other, welfare tsunamis, and class warfare were once thought to be "un-American" too.

Amazing how these liberofascists cherry pick which parts of Old Dead White Male America they say they want to keep.

For some reason, they thought they could have anarchy entirely on their own terms.

Posted by: McConnellBoehner at September 15, 2015 08:09 AM (QolCq)

130 Morning all

Nothing but nothing but aggravation.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 15, 2015 08:09 AM (gf8BH)

131 When real world accounting practices are applied
taking the costs of pensions, healthcare and the rest into account, the
number is much higher.

Posted by: jwest at September 15, 2015 08:06 AM (Zs4uk)

Pension costs are turning into a real bomb. Rising life expectancy has pretty much made the defined-benefit pension obsolete, both in terms of employer pensions and SS. There needs to be serious efforts to replace them with sustainable systems across the board, but with the way the lefty Unions are, and the way the Democrats control Congress (despite being the minority party), nothing will be done.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 08:09 AM (J+mig)

132 His hand at Auschwitz, He's not going to do anything about us now.

Oh, He's doing something about us all right. We're going to be getting some justice from Him for all the shit against Him that we've allowed to go on in this country.

It's not going to be pleasant.

Posted by: GMan at September 15, 2015 08:09 AM (sxq57)

133 10 Marines involved in the "study" of placing women in Marine combat units say the Navy secretary threw them under the bus. A better description would be he is throwing out their results and putting his and Obama's political views instead.

http://wapo.st/1VYEF62
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:33 AM (t2KH5)

Unfortunately, there will be no turning back from this. We are screwed. The military now only serves two purposes, training ground for PC activism and a money conduit for, I shutter to say it, the "military industrial complex".

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 15, 2015 08:10 AM (LXJ1e)

134 You're welcome.
BTW- so the "confusion" from sometime back doesn't rear it's ugly head, I'm not in that.
Have sat in a couple times when the drummer was sick or wife having a baby and joined them on percussion at a couple of small festivals.
Currently playing with front man in three piece. We're enjoying the smaller venues. Less work (but clean BOSE sound) and connecting with audience.

Posted by: teej at September 15, 2015 08:11 AM (NqaQ9)

135 They are letting these migrants in because they are guaranteed Democrat voters.

And for no other reason. That is also the reason behind the H1Bs - more people who want to turn this country into the Hellhole they just left. Ignorant people always make good Democratic voters.

Posted by: An Observation at September 15, 2015 08:11 AM (/oDR4)

136 For some reason, they thought they could have anarchy entirely on their own terms.

Posted by: McConnellBoehner at September 15, 2015 08:09 AM (QolCq)

They think they can control chaos, direct it, and ride it like a wave into power. Chaos, for its part, is giggling like a schoolgirl because the chance to run rampant is being served up on a silver platter.
The center can not hold.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 08:11 AM (J+mig)

137 131 Pension costs are turning into a real bomb. Rising
life expectancy has pretty much made the defined-benefit pension
obsolete, both in terms of employer pensions and SS. There needs to be
serious efforts to replace them with sustainable systems across the
board, but with the way the lefty Unions are, and the way the Democrats
control Congress (despite being the minority party), nothing will be
done.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 08:09 AM (J+mig)

Rising life expectancy is a myth. If you take the life expectancy after the age of 65 from 1930 and compare it to what he have today it has only gone up a few years.

The overall life expectancy from birth to death has increased but it is primarily due to better healthcare for newborns, few deaths in wars, and few male deaths from crime. But all of these factors have no impact on SS and pensions.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 08:13 AM (t2KH5)

138 I'm a very bad Catholic, for reasons I won't go into. But my attitude concerning God these days is, if He didn't show His hand at Auschwitz, He's not going to do anything about us now.

We should not expect God to intervene on behalf of a nation that has turned its back on Him.

Posted by: V the K at September 15, 2015 08:13 AM (O7MnT)

139 30 re 28: Ithink the Germans are trying to deal with a labor shortage. Birth rates in W Europe are well below rates needed to just keep the population level. Did I say the correctly? It's early.
Posted by: mallfly at September 15, 2015 06:41 AM (vcI3n)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This idea informs prog thinking about immigration. They have believed their own lies about overpopulation for so long, it has effected their replacement rates. A declining population in a welfare state is NOT a good thing. This is why there is an un-holy convergence of GOPe/Dem will to kick down the borders: The progs want lots of workers to continue to prop up their pyramid scheme of entitlements AND a permanent majority in the electorate. And the GOPe gets cheap labor and brand new markets.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 15, 2015 08:15 AM (5buP8)

140 This land is your land
This land is my land
From Pomerania
To the coasts of Zeeland
From the Sherwood Forests
To the Fjords of Norway

Posted by: Bigby's Clasped Hands at September 15, 2015 08:15 AM (3ZtZW)

141 Unfortunately, there will be no turning back from this. We are screwed. The military now only serves two purposes, training ground for PC activism and a money conduit for, I shutter to say it, the "military industrial complex". Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 15, 2015 08:10 AM (LXJ1e)

The "military industrial complex" is really not a thing of it's own, but only a smaller subset of a larger problem. That larger problem is that our politicians have bent companies in every industry, enabling cronies to stuff their pockets full of the public's money, while making sure that a significant portion of it ends up back in their pockets as "campaign contributions".
Crony capitalism is not capitalism. It has nothing to do with enterprise and free markets. The way the government picks winners and losers, and the cronies get anti-competitive regulations and sweetheart deals that destroy competition is a de-facto planned economy. Private ownership combined with central planning is a feature of only one economic system, and that's Fascism.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 08:16 AM (J+mig)

142 >>>And the commie Pope weighs in with his reason for the "refugee crisis";
the God of money. Well, I guess that is true, but not in the manner he
means.<<<

Yeah, I'm not too impressed with this guy and his class warfare BS. The guy is like Obama, creating division instead of unity, hope.

Posted by: Fritz at September 15, 2015 08:16 AM (UzPAd)

143 Rand Paul is asking the right question in watching Gov. Perry driven out of the race so early: "what does this say about the GOP", when a reality TV star who supported Hillary last go-around can drive out a great governor?

It says the GOP incumbent class is in big trouble with it's voters.

Posted by: MTF at September 15, 2015 08:17 AM (TxJGV)

144 "But my attitude concerning God these days is, if He didn't show His hand at Auschwitz, He's not going to do anything about us now."

But He did show His hand. You only have to allow yourself to see it. For example, Dresden, all the Nazis who swung from ropes, the better Germany that followed.

Posted by: Radeaminit at September 15, 2015 08:17 AM (QolCq)

145 The "military industrial complex" is really not a thing of it's own, but only a smaller subset of a larger problem. That larger problem is that our politicians have bent companies in every industry, enabling cronies to stuff their pockets full of the public's money, while making sure that a significant portion of it ends up back in their pockets as "campaign contributions".
Crony capitalism is not capitalism. It has nothing to do with enterprise and free markets. The way the government picks winners and losers, and the cronies get anti-competitive regulations and sweetheart deals that destroy competition is a de-facto planned economy. Private ownership combined with central planning is a feature of only one economic system, and that's Fascism.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 08:16 AM (J+mig)

-----------------------

I agree with that.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 15, 2015 08:19 AM (LXJ1e)

146 They think they can control chaos, direct it, and ride it like a wave into power. Chaos, for its part, is giggling like a schoolgirl because the chance to run rampant is being served up on a silver platter.
The center can not hold.

Don't come to the right. Unless you need ventilation.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 15, 2015 08:19 AM (W4LFA)

147 I can get angry at God and I can express it, which is fine If i stay there, ultimatly, all that does is keep me angry. It doesn't answer the questions I may have. If I get snuck in anger it doesn't help me live my life except by trying to find someone.thing else to blame. When I look around the world, I see people who makes lots of problems . God didn't cause them. People's stupidity. anger, greed, selfishness , evil caused them. I'm not talking about personal catastrophic events events that one has control over-an unexpected death etc. The only choice i have is how to react to things. As I person of faith I can either draw closer to God or go further away. I've done both. The latter option hasnt helped me much.

http://tinyurl.com/nl4c8lo

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 08:19 AM (dKQ1C)

148 Rand's comments do not surprise me. For all the worry that he would turn out like his old man, it seems he's actually turned into another loyal party soldier.

Posted by: Irony at September 15, 2015 08:20 AM (97I0d)

149 The "French" to open 2 Hotels in Iran.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 15, 2015 08:20 AM (gf8BH)

150 I have a new theory on Trump/the GOP-E. I think the GOP candidates had a tacit agreement that they would neutralize the Illegal Immigration issue by all taking the same position on it. "Of course we can't build a wall, and we can't tear families apart. We will secure the border, someday (pinky swear), but we have to give all the illegals we have now (and the ones who will come in while we are working on securing that pesky border) some kind of legal status."

But then Trump comes in and says, "F--k that sh-t, we're going to deport them and build a wall."

It really screwed up the GOP's plan to neutralize the issue.

Trump is a pretty smart guy and he saw that the rift between Mitch McConnell's business interests and the base was a "y-u-u-u-u-u-g-e" opportunity, and he took it.

Posted by: V the K at September 15, 2015 08:20 AM (O7MnT)

151 143 Rand Paul is asking the right question in watching Gov. Perry driven out of the race so early: "what does this say about the GOP", when a reality TV star who supported Hillary last go-around can drive out a great governor?

It says the GOP incumbent class is in big trouble with it's voters.
Posted by: MTF at September 15, 2015 08:17 AM (TxJGV)

----------------

While Ronald Raven says he really likes Perry but he is not ready for prime-time.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 15, 2015 08:20 AM (LXJ1e)

152 As I person of faith I can either draw closer to God or go further away. I've done both. The latter option hasnt helped me much.
http://tinyurl.com/nl4c8lo
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 08:19 AM (dKQ1C)
==========

I was expecting a Fenelon quote

.

I believe he has a few on the subject, yes?

Posted by: TJ Camper at September 15, 2015 08:22 AM (tie/0)

153 Did God show His hand about Auschwitz?

The Red Army's rape of German women in 1945 is about as Old Testament, Wrath of God as one can imagine.

Posted by: Raspail at September 15, 2015 08:22 AM (QolCq)

154 The reason for the current war between Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck.

http://bit.ly/1id9QMf
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:35 AM (t2KH5)

Wow. Beck seeking attention. I'm guessing this is where we use 'unexpected' in a place where 'unexpected' is exactly the wrong word to use.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 15, 2015 08:27 AM (BZAd3)

155
Today is Battle of Britain Day.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 15, 2015 08:27 AM (iQIUe)

156 It's 6:28 a.m., American. Another day closer to victory.

Bears were back this morning. That momma ain't small.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 15, 2015 08:27 AM (yxw0r)

157
I know lots of people believe God has an active hand in the day to
day operations of this world. If you do, I don't know how you are not
furious with Him at this time.

Because the Bible warns us that certain types of behavior have consequences for a country. He hasn't abandoned us - we have abandoned him. When the liberal judges started redoing this country we didn't hang them from lampposts - that is OUR fault.

God didn't show his hand at Auschwitz ? Of course he did: Israel would not exist as a nation without the Nazi death camps. Everything Satan tries ultimately backfires on him. Read the last chapter of the Book - the bad guys lose.

Posted by: An Observation at September 15, 2015 08:27 AM (/oDR4)

158 Okay, home sick again.
Gonna type in the bit.ly thing on Palin/Beck, read it, get the trash can to the curb and go back to bed.

Love each other fellow babies

Posted by: teej at September 15, 2015 08:27 AM (NqaQ9)

159 Yeah, I'm not too impressed with this guy and his class warfare BS. The guy is like Obama, creating division instead of unity, hope.

Exactly....the Pope should be talking about freedom of religion, family and faith and what examples Jesus set for us and for mankind and not a bunch of crapola straight out of my book.

Now Obama well he is a POS but he's my boy!

I just wish Bernie wasn't so old and ugly then he might have a chance of being Santa Obama II.

Posted by: Zombie Saul Alinsky at September 15, 2015 08:28 AM (D0NZx)

160 BurtTC: I know lots of people believe God has an active hand in the day to day operations of this world. If you do, I don't know how you are not furious with Him at this time.

Occurred to me the other day, regarding the question of whether God set everything in motion in time and space and then sat back to watch, or whether God is intimately involved in moment-to-moment doin's, that the answer is, Yes. The two are indistinguishable with an Eternal Creator.

Our job is not to figure out whether God exists or not, but to figure out, as God is, why would God permit "space to destroy." (!) Supersimple answer: You would never have existed if it hadn't been this way. Are we worth it?

Posted by: mindful webworker - the o logician at September 15, 2015 08:30 AM (D5XRv)

161 http://wapo.st/1VYEF62
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:33 AM (t2KH5)

This happened before in the military. During Carter. And even though I wasn't in the military, I was working directly with military people in much of the work that I did, I can tell you that being in the military then, sucked.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 15, 2015 08:30 AM (BZAd3)

162 Trump is a pretty smart guy and he saw that the rift between Mitch McConnell's business interests and the base was a "y-u-u-u-u-u-g-e" opportunity, and he took it. Posted by: V the K at September 15, 2015 08:20 AM (O7MnT)

Pretty much, and I've considered and raised this point before. He might not be a true believer, he might just be an opportunist that saw it as a way to distinguish himself and stand out from a pack full of candidates who are largely interchangeable parts. That said, if my read on him is accurate and what he's really after is the one thing he doesn't have (his name in the history books), he's fairly likely to stick to it in an effort to be remembered as a popular President who did what the public wanted when nobody else would.
Sometimes when it's politically profitable enough, people will do the right thing for the wrong reasons.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 08:31 AM (J+mig)

163 "Rand's comments do not surprise me. For all the worry that he would
turn out like his old man, it seems he's actually turned into another
loyal party soldier."

All I needed to know about Luap Nard I learned by watching how fast he sucked up to that corrupt old hack Mitch McConnell.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 15, 2015 08:31 AM (noWW6)

164 Yes, Fenelon has a lot of quotes that are appropriate in all kinds of circumstances and I have posted a number of them. I don't really have his stuff memorized. However, here are some:

There is never peace in resisting God...The less you hold onto, the happier you will be. Your mind in holding onto its. thoughts and reasonings will torment you. If you can't see past men to God, you will encounter much turmoil.

Know that God loves you....he himself obeyed God to death. Rest in God's hands.

The future is Gods. Live with God in the present moment. He will give you what you need.

From "The Seeking Heart" by Francois Fenelon

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 08:32 AM (dKQ1C)

165 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 08:19 AM (dKQ1C)

I always appreciate your thoughts, FS.

Two book recommendations, both of which I enjoyed as a young man (and still do):

Everybody Calls Me Father by "Father X." From 1962, it's a man of the cloth's reminiscences about his first year as a newly-ordained priest. The time frame of the book itself is somewhere in the mid-1930s.

http://goo.gl/YMto6d

A Right To Be Merry by Mother Mary Francis. This is also a book of memories, by a cloistered Carmelite nun and the founding of a branch of the order in Roswell NM (yes, that Roswell) in the 1950s.

http://goo.gl/G1yc3z

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 15, 2015 08:32 AM (zF6Iw)

166 Rising life expectancy is a myth.
====================

Average life expectancy has indeed risen, from 58 for men and 62 for women in 1935 (year of SS passage). I'm not sure how to defend the idea of using only "life expectancy after 65", when the actuarial bomb is purely a function of longevity of the population as a whole, but t doesn't really matter. Even if you do use life expectancy after 65, it reached 19.2 years for men in 2012, about 45% longer than in 1940 (12.7 years). In addition the worker to retiree ratio has declined precipitously, undermining the solvency of the program however the longevity issue is analyzed.

Chart 1

http://1.usa.gov/1OsVWC5

Any way you look at it the SS program is toast, unless eligibility is changed.

Posted by: MTF at September 15, 2015 08:33 AM (TxJGV)

167 Are we sure Mike Judge isn't just filming Idiocracy 2: The Road To Camacho here?

I like your optimism. I, too, hope things improve!

Posted by: t-bird at September 15, 2015 08:34 AM (FcR7P)

168 Pretty much, and I've considered and raised this point before. He might not be a true believer, he might just be an opportunist that saw it as a way to distinguish himself and stand out from a pack full of candidates who are largely interchangeable parts. That said, if my read on him is accurate and what he's really after is the one thing he doesn't have (his name in the history books), he's fairly likely to stick to it in an effort to be remembered as a popular President who did what the public wanted when nobody else would.
Sometimes when it's politically profitable enough, people will do the right thing for the wrong reasons.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 08:31 AM (J+mig)

------------------

For good or bad, he is like Teddy Roosevelt.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 15, 2015 08:34 AM (LXJ1e)

169 Rand Paul is an idiot. Perry is responsible for Perry. And the Republican Party has given to Obama over and over. So Paul needs to cut the crap.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at September 15, 2015 08:35 AM (j2xmV)

170
Girl Marines can't hack it in a rifle company.

The science is settled.

Obama's Secty of the Navy is a science Denier.

Posted by: Col. Nathan Jessup (ret) at September 15, 2015 08:38 AM (QolCq)

171 For good or bad, he is like Teddy Roosevelt. Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 15, 2015 08:34 AM (LXJ1e)

I'm not 100% certain my read is accurate, Trump's change on the issues may be legitimate (God knows I've been all over the place in the past 15 years, all the way from wishy washy aggressively neutral moderate to Tea Party).

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 08:38 AM (J+mig)

172 Scankles strawman argument on 2nd amendment and gun control.

http://bit.ly/1Y7BfzZ

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 08:38 AM (t2KH5)

173 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 15, 2015 08:32 AM (zF6Iw)

Thanks for the book recommendations, brother. Always like to know of good books. :^) I have heard of the second book before and it came recommended to me. Didn't get it it yet, though.

I read a lot of devotional books over and over again-including the bible of course, but various Christians writers have been a great source of help and strength to me.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 08:38 AM (dKQ1C)

174 "what does this say about the GOP", when a reality TV star who supported Hillary last go-around can drive out a great governor?

It says the GOP is an organization that for too long lied to its customers and failed to deliver a product the public wanted.

It's the Blackberry of political parties.

Posted by: V the K at September 15, 2015 08:40 AM (O7MnT)

175 @173 Hey brother, have you ever checked out Dr. Kenneth Gentry on postmillenial eschatology?

Posted by: RedWhiteAndTrue at September 15, 2015 08:42 AM (J9rqz)

176 when a reality TV star who supported Hillary last go-around can drive out a great governor?

It says a lot about GOPe-approved consultants, that's for sure.

Posted by: t-bird at September 15, 2015 08:42 AM (FcR7P)

177 Average life expectancy has indeed risen, from 58
for men and 62 for women in 1935 (year of SS passage). I'm not sure how
to defend the idea of using only "life expectancy after 65", when the
actuarial bomb is purely a function of longevity of the population as a
whole, but t doesn't really matter. Even if you do use life expectancy
after 65, it reached 19.2 years for men in 2012, about 45% longer than
in 1940 (12.7 years). In addition the worker to retiree ratio has
declined precipitously, undermining the solvency of the program however
the longevity issue is analyzed.

Chart 1

http://1.usa.gov/1OsVWC5

Any way you look at it the SS program is toast, unless eligibility is changed.

Posted by: MTF at September 15, 2015 08:33 AM (TxJGV)

Because until you reached the age of 65 you did not draw SS or a pension, therefore if you died before 65 there was no cost to the system. And indeed, what costs that reduced life expectancy in the 30s was infant deaths, war deaths, and in general more deaths at midlife due to disease.

And the data I used for that came from a chart at the Census Bureau that gave average life expectancy broken down by age and year. If you only look at life expectancy after 65 when people started drawing SS in 1930 compared to now it has not greatly increased.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 08:43 AM (t2KH5)

178 Girl Marines can't hack it in a rifle company.

The science is settled.

Obama's Secty of the Navy is a science Denier.

Posted by: Col. Nathan Jessup (ret) at September 15, 2015 08:38 AM (QolCq)

Not todays women...I have watched some WW2 You Tube videos of Russian army women in those days. Big and strong and look like they could beat the sh*t out of any man alive today...But thats another era.

Posted by: Colin at September 15, 2015 08:43 AM (eoM8x)

179 The Pope is a person elected by other people who all rose to prominence in a venal institution. The Pope spends other people's money. A major effort of the Catholic church is fundraising. More importantly. The Pope's hotline to God is no better or worse than my hotline to God. Every day I ask God to protect me from the Pope, Catholic church, Muslims, state agencies, federal agencies, local agencies, world agencies and all other thieves, rapist and murderers. Please ask God to protect you from them too. free will.

Posted by: truth at September 15, 2015 08:43 AM (CzhL0)

180 For good or bad, he is like Teddy Roosevelt. Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 15, 2015 08:34 AM (LXJ1e)

In this case? I think that puts him in the unique position of being the only person who has even the remotest chance of delivering anything the base actually wants. Elect another GOP-e type, and we'll get a whole new brand of All 3 Branches Failure Theater for our amusement.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 08:44 AM (J+mig)

181 The real reason for the AGW scam is shown once again.

http://bit.ly/1NArqal
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:37 AM (t2KH5)

I, in my newly minted conspiratorial mind, have thought for a while now, that the AGW scam was mainly an effort to cut down on consumerism - progress, in other words. And I think that the mass immigration of 'immigrants' is related. An attempt to artificially lower the global standard of living by spreading the poverty. A global push for equality. I believe there is something to that. I also don't think that it is just a lucky coincidence that the 'immigrants' are muslims, some, perhaps many of whom are pron to "sudden jihad onset'. Islam is the near perfect political tool in that violence, ergo fear, is such an inherent feature of it.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 15, 2015 08:44 AM (BZAd3)

182 >>>>> 124
Hell, just look at how the Democrats have been making Social Security (fixing it, preserving it, or just plain keeping it broken) an issue for the past 50 years... that's not a new trick. If you solve a problem, you can't run on it again next time!
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 08:05 AM (J+mig)

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I'm starting to think that way about curing Cancer. How many people will be out of a job the day that happens. Industry.

Posted by: GBruno at September 15, 2015 08:45 AM (u49WF)

183 "when a reality TV star who supported Hillary last go-around can drive out a great governor?"

What it means in Perry's case is that the base are increasingly furious about the lack of seriousness on the immigration issue, and Perry is not only a squish on immigration, he had rudely insulted as "heartless" those who raised legitimate questions about his immigration policy stances.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 15, 2015 08:45 AM (noWW6)

184 I continue to argue that the right could capture the black vote by using Social Security as an issue.

A well prepared campaign that shows that if SS was dropped for a "forced" individual retirement account that Reagan proposed when he was president, current recipients would be receiving double the monthly benefit they get now.

Also, publicizing that the accounts would be inherited by the family instead of seized by the government would turn the black vote back to the right.

Posted by: jwest at September 15, 2015 08:46 AM (Zs4uk)

185
I'm not 100% certain my read is accurate, Trump's change on the issues may be legitimate (God knows I've been all over the place in the past 15 years, all the way from wishy washy aggressively neutral moderate to Tea Party).
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 08:38 AM (J+mig)

A few things:

1) I think Trump always wants to be on the winning side, so that explains a lot of his going back and forth between the Dems and Repubs.

2) Given the above, that means Trump has determined that the Repubs are the winning side this go election cycle.

3) Trump will make a deal with conservatives, Tea Party types. We put in office and he will give us what we want. The fact that he is burning bridges rhetorically shows that he is serious.

4) If the deal turns sour there is the possibility of bankruptcy (i.e. breaking the deal).

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 15, 2015 08:47 AM (LXJ1e)

186 184 I continue to argue that the right could capture the black vote by using Social Security as an issue.

A well prepared campaign that shows that if SS was dropped for a "forced" individual retirement account that Reagan proposed when he was president, current recipients would be receiving double the monthly benefit they get now.

Also, publicizing that the accounts would be inherited by the family instead of seized by the government would turn the black vote back to the right.
Posted by: jwest at September 15, 2015 08:46 AM (Zs4uk)

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The Repubs are too scared to do anything like that.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 15, 2015 08:48 AM (LXJ1e)

187 SS (specifically disability) is being used as a political slush fund to buy votes.

Posted by: truth at September 15, 2015 08:48 AM (HSAmh)

188 Good morning everyone

Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 08:49 AM (2XMpf)

189 Also, publicizing that the accounts would be
inherited by the family instead of seized by the government would turn
the black vote back to the right.

Posted by: jwest at September 15, 2015 08:46 AM (Zs4uk)

I believe that Chile runs a Social Security program that's almost exactly like what you described. They force you to pay in, but you own your own account, get to pick which of a dozen providers it's through (ranging from stable to risky), and it's your money that you can pass on to your descendants when you're gone.
When I did research on the issue (10+ years ago for college papers), at the time, they had 20% of our GDP, but their average Social Security payout was 50% of ours. They're kicking our butts. But when GWB floated a similar plan for SS privatization, the Left trucked out their whole "you're going to put granny out on an ice floe" rhetoric again.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 08:49 AM (J+mig)

190 Casting Merkel as Jimmy Carter with the Marielitos and you have some idea of what's to come in Germany. At least the Cubans were Christian.

Posted by: Ancient Astronaut Theorist at September 15, 2015 08:50 AM (msVAP)

191 181 Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 15, 2015 08:44 AM (BZAd3)
-------------------------------------------------------

The original head of the UN program for AGW has openly admitted it was designed as a way to redistribute wealth from the industrialized West to third world nations.

This is not the first article I have seen that says it was nothing but another way to tax the wealthy to give to other people.

I figured that out when it first started. When a new "problem" is invented I always look at the proposed solution to see what the "real problem" they think it is. And of course the proposed solution for AGW was increased taxes.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 08:50 AM (t2KH5)

192 THE MIGRANT WARS ARE COMING!

AND SO AM I!

Posted by: Bill Clinton, screaming from the Outer Darkness at September 15, 2015 08:51 AM (vd4oB)

193 187
SS (specifically disability) is being used as a political slush fund to buy votes.

Posted by: truth at September 15, 2015 08:48 AM (HSAmh)

SSDI is what is bankrupting SS now and it is primarily due to abuse and fraud.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 08:52 AM (t2KH5)

194 LIVs don't want fair or future benefits. They want an easy living now. That is why myIRA won't be accepted no matter who tries to implement it.

Posted by: truth at September 15, 2015 08:52 AM (CzhL0)

195 178 That's myth and propaganda.Soviets found out right away that women weren't effective infantry(as did the Israelis).

Posted by: steevy at September 15, 2015 08:53 AM (sPO3u)

196 What it means in Perry's case is that the base are increasingly furious about the lack of seriousness on the immigration issue

Perry, like Walker and Rubio and Jeb and Christie and Kasich are captives of the professional political consultant hacks that have done so much to destroy American democracy over the past 40 years. See also Hillary's four or five "reboots" since last Tuesday.

Trump, Carson, Fiorina, and Sanders are not beholden to those guys. It's refreshing.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 15, 2015 08:53 AM (659DL)

197 Also, publicizing that the accounts would be
inherited by the family instead of seized by the government would turn
the black vote back to the right.

Posted by: jwest at September 15, 2015 08:46 AM (Zs4uk)

Galveston county (TX), opted out of social security for its employees years ago, in favor of a private retirement system. Their employees retire wealthy.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 15, 2015 08:53 AM (BZAd3)

198 SS? You're welcome.

Posted by: Zombie FDR at September 15, 2015 08:54 AM (gwG9s)

199

I'm starting to think that way about curing Cancer. How many people will be out of a job the day that happens. Industry.
Posted by: GBruno at September 15, 2015 08:45 AM (u49WF)

For those of us with chronic conditions like diabetes, yeah, the thought comes up every now and then. That sweet, sweet test-strip and insulin money must be awful tempting.

I know you were just making an analogy, but still....

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 15, 2015 08:54 AM (yxw0r)

200 But when GWB floated a similar plan for SS privatization, the Left trucked out their whole "you're going to put granny out on an ice floe" rhetoric again.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 15, 2015 08:49 AM (J+mig)

GWB didn't have the balls to make the case.

Use the left's methods to make it an issue of discrimination. Black men die earlier than white women. Therefore, black men work their entire lives to fund the checks to white women, while their families remain in poverty because there is no inheritance.

Just another example of the white devil slavemaster beating down the poor black man.

Posted by: jwest at September 15, 2015 08:54 AM (Zs4uk)

201 And I'd like to repeat what some great thinker has expressed much better than me, that Trump is the best available weapon to murder the GOP. Don't need to love him or agree with him, but use him to kill the national party.

Posted by: Ancient Astronaut Theorist at September 15, 2015 08:54 AM (msVAP)

202 I don't need God to protect me from the Pope or the RCC. I am not a RC, but I get a lot of comfort from RCC writers through the centuries who have helped draw me closer to the Lord Jesus Christ whom all Christians believe in. I find attempts to divide the Body of Christ unhelpful and not of the Holy Spirit. As Christians we have a lot more in common that that which separates us. So we'd better "hang together or most assuredly we will hang separately" (Ben Frankiln, in another context.)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 08:55 AM (dKQ1C)

203 Right after the revolution declared the sexes were equal they put women into combat and it was a disaster.In WW2 they mostly flew night harassment aircraft,there were a few snipers and in tank crews they made them drivers,who had minuscule survival rates in the T-34.

Posted by: steevy at September 15, 2015 08:55 AM (sPO3u)

204 I'm starting to think that way about curing Cancer. How many people will be out of a job the day that happens. Industry.

Posted by: GBruno at September 15, 2015 08:45 AM (u49WF)

That's a cheap shot. There's actually a lot of progress that's been made. Childhood leukemia and non-Hodgkins lymphoma are two examples that are now pretty much curable if caught soon enough. The problem is, there is no one cancer. Cancer is hundreds of different diseases that work in different ways. We are all carrying tiny cancers around with us all the time, which are being fought by our immune systems - the trick is to figure out why every once in a while one of them decides to grow and the body can't hold it off.

If we do nothing else, get a colonoscopy when the time comes. Colorectal cancer is very slow-growing and almost 100% preventable.

Posted by: Nick Offerman at September 15, 2015 08:57 AM (5f5bM)

205 2
Good Morning Morons. Today is Tuesday, September 15, 2015. On this day
in 1966 U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson, responding to a sniper attack
by Charles Whitman at the University of Texas at Austin, wrote a letter
to Congress urging the enactment of gun control legislation. This is
always the way of Democrats. A crackpot shoots some people and they call
for more gun control, which has been proven to never work and it only
inconveniences honest people. He got his wish in 1968 after Robert
Kennedy was shot by a Palestinian Arab with Jordanian citizenship who
was never supposed to own a gun to begin with.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 06:31 AM (t2KH5)

let me add one more thing 52 years ago i was born

Posted by: jimmytheclaw at September 15, 2015 08:57 AM (d0KJ2)

206 happy birthday jimmytheclaw!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 15, 2015 08:58 AM (0O7c5)

207 Sorry for the Nick Offerman nic. Caesar.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 15, 2015 08:58 AM (5f5bM)

208 For good or bad, he is like Teddy Roosevelt.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 15, 2015 08:34 AM (LXJ1e)

So, he's going to actively work to get a progressive democrat elected after he fails to secure the nomination?

Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at September 15, 2015 08:58 AM (k9qR4)

209 Happy Birthday, Jimmy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 15, 2015 08:58 AM (dKQ1C)

210 I'm starting to think that way about curing Cancer. How many people will be out of a job the day that happens. Industry.

Not so tinfoil hat:

Did you notice the "nevermind" about cholesterol followed on the heels of Lipitor's patent expiration?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 15, 2015 08:58 AM (659DL)

211 185 "...1) I think Trump..."

I think all four of your points are accurate.

Posted by: agree at September 15, 2015 08:59 AM (HSAmh)

212 >>>And the commie Pope weighs in with his reason for the "refugee crisis";
the God of money. Well, I guess that is true, but not in the manner he
means.
_________________________

The Daily Mail has an article up about all the ads on Facebook for smugglers who get people into Greece, Hungary, etc. The ads tell them "Go to Europe and Live Like a King!"

Yesterday there were some "migrants" being interviewed, and they were telling the interviewer that they were going to Germany because Germany has the highest refugee "salaries" (i.e. welfare payments).

The pope is right. This is about money and greed. (And BTW, isn't it interesting how all these "poor" refugees can afford the thousands of dollars in fees charged by the smugglers).

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 15, 2015 08:59 AM (a31sM)

213 when a reality TV star who supported Hillary last go-around can drive out a great governor?

Perry went down fast last time, too, and no 'reality star' did it.

Apparently Perry's a lousy campaigner.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 15, 2015 08:59 AM (oVJmc)

214 205 let me add one more thing 52 years ago i was born

Posted by: jimmytheclaw at September 15, 2015 08:57 AM (d0KJ2)W3

Well happy birthday you young whipper snapper, now get off my lawn.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 09:00 AM (t2KH5)

215 "SSDI is what is bankrupting SS now and it is primarily due to abuse and fraud."

Here in Commiefornia, there have been innumerable Chinese immigrants, legal ones, who use "family reunification" procedures to bring in their elderly parents from back home.

Since the parents never paid into Social Security, the youngsters are told they must sign a pledge that their parents will be supported by the family for the rest of their lives once in the States, and not allowed to "become a public charge".

The younger family members happily sign this, because they have figured out that the "pledge" is toothless and Uncle Sugar has no intention of ever enforcing it, or coming after them personally for the money due. They hence immediately and happily dump their parents into Social Security as soon as the parents get to the States.

Sure hope none of you are going to need any SS money in your golden years.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 15, 2015 09:00 AM (noWW6)

216 201
And I'd like to repeat what some great thinker has expressed much better
than me, that Trump is the best available weapon to murder the GOP.
Don't need to love him or agree with him, but use him to kill the
national party.

Posted by: Ancient Astronaut Theorist at September 15, 2015 08:54 AM (msVAP)
See I don't get this. If Trump actually wins, why wouldn't he cut slimy deals with Turtle and Boner?

Posted by: chemjeff at September 15, 2015 09:00 AM (2XMpf)

217 Right after the revolution declared the sexes were equal they put women
into combat and it was a disaster.In WW2 they mostly flew night
harassment aircraft,there were a few snipers and in tank crews they made
them drivers,who had minuscule survival rates in the T-34.

Remember in the 1960's the womens movement declared that women were equal to men in all ways. (there was no difference) Most didn't believe it, but it has carried on into the thought process today, mostly by the libs of the 60's in power today.

Posted by: Colin at September 15, 2015 09:00 AM (eoM8x)

218 "Apparently Perry's a lousy campaigner."

I'd heard.

Posted by: Ronald Raven at September 15, 2015 09:01 AM (noWW6)

219 174 "what does this say about the GOP", when a reality TV star who supported Hillary last go-around can drive out a great governor?

What does it say about an asshole senator that he's more upset about this than the fact that his chinless leader is going to fund planned parenthood's organ harvesting operations?

Fuck Rand Paul. Fuck the GOP.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 15, 2015 09:01 AM (CiLUq)

220 da dump

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 09:01 AM (t2KH5)

221 Fifty two years ago my dad was in elementary school.

Posted by: Irony at September 15, 2015 09:01 AM (A9RKv)

222 Did you notice the "nevermind" about cholesterol followed on the heels of Lipitor's patent expiration?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 15, 2015 08:58 AM (659DL)

Two completely different things. The "never mind" was about EATING foods that contain cholesterol. Lipitor treats cholesterol in your blood. One is before the digestive system, the other is after. It is still a bad thing to have too much cholesterol in your blood.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 15, 2015 09:03 AM (5f5bM)

223 See I don't get this. If Trump actually wins, why wouldn't he cut slimy deals with Turtle and Boner?
____________________

Because he knows that will mean it's one term and out for him.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 15, 2015 09:03 AM (a31sM)

224 221 Fifty two years ago my dad was in elementary school.

Posted by: Irony at September 15, 2015 09:01 AM (A9RKv)

Yeah, he sat two seats away from me.

Posted by: jwest at September 15, 2015 09:03 AM (Zs4uk)

225 Yeah, he sat two seats away from me.

Posted by: jwest at September 15, 2015 09:03 AM (Zs4uk)

No Vic joke there?

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 15, 2015 09:04 AM (5f5bM)

226 202 "...I don't need God to protect me from the Pope..."

Good for you. Personally though I can't do anything about the Pope or Obama, or Putin or any other clan chief. So I depend on God. Also know as All-that-is, Higher Self, Spirit self and so forth. Just like Kosher foods. Not just for Jews. My wife wouldn't let me buy a Buddy Jesus from the Catholic church. Prayer beads are nice.

Posted by: ok at September 15, 2015 09:06 AM (CzhL0)

227 CJ, I know you don't get this. I have followed your plaintive posts recently and I'm sure you are conservative in all the classical ideals. I respectfully disagree with your conclusion. I feel the GOP needs to go now. But I've been saying this since 1980. How many more election cycles are you and your kind willing to go before helping a new party ?

Posted by: Ancient Astronaut Theorist at September 15, 2015 09:07 AM (msVAP)

228 Do not compose long thoughts in the browser,
For browsers are flaky and unreliable.

Do not compose long thoughts in the browser,
For browsers are flaky and unreliable.

Do not compose long thoughts in the browser,
For browsers are flaky and unreliable.

When will I learn?

Posted by: mindful webworker - what I was going to say at September 15, 2015 09:08 AM (D5XRv)

229 "Not so tinfoil hat: Did you notice the 'nevermind' about cholesterol followed on the heels of Lipitor's patent expiration?"

I was told 25 years ago by a sternly frowning physician that if I continued my ways of eating butter and eggs and cheese and red meat, in defiance of all medical science -- which was SETTLED, mind you -- that my heart would explode lethally within the decade. Deadly cholesterol would plug up my cardiac arteries to where red cells would be passing through in single file, and then not at all.

I'm still here. My heart is fine. It was all bullshit from the get-go. Politicized "science" to line the pockets of Big Pharma.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 15, 2015 09:08 AM (noWW6)

230 Just watch 1 episode of Judge Hatchett. People in the gallery, hottin' and hollerin' and clapping and acting up every time somebody says something. Yes, exactly like Idiocracy and it's already here.

Posted by: FredB at September 15, 2015 09:08 AM (V6Q3O)

231 Also, publicizing that the accounts would be
inherited by the family instead of seized by the government would turn
the black vote back to the right.

Posted by: jwest at September 15, 2015 08:46 AM (Zs4uk)

People poo pah the "new world order" notion as a conspiracy theory, and there may be something to the fact that people get carried away with it, but both of the Bush's prominently mentioned it by name. Besides the fact that he is another Bush and I don't believe there are only two families in the country who can lead us, that is not a small motive for why I would never vote for Jeb.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 15, 2015 09:11 AM (BZAd3)

232 I'm of the belief that god doesnt give a shit. Cant blame it all on man if God refuses to intercede on behalf of the innocent.

On a happier note, it's raining tho I wd gladly send this rain up north where the fires are.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 15, 2015 09:13 AM (iQIUe)

233 229 Posted by: torquewrench at September 15, 2015 09:08 AM (noWW6)

I asked my doctor about DC'ing my pravastatin because the word was out that cholesterol was no longer considered a problem.

He said that science is really not settled yet and it wasn't a good idea.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 09:13 AM (t2KH5)

234 You aren't a real "Ancient Astronaut Theorist". You didn't say that people didn't have the ability to design the GOP. That Lincoln was taught on the knee of a nordic or grey or the anunnaki. :-)

Posted by: people are all thumbs at September 15, 2015 09:14 AM (CzhL0)

235 Jim Geraghty hits the nail on the head: Do you know why we don't get conservative policies enacted? Because a good chunk of self-identified conservatives don't actually want them, and fight them when they're proposed.

Posted by: MTF at September 15, 2015 09:15 AM (TxJGV)

236 'm a very bad Catholic, for reasons I won't go into. But my attitude concerning God these days is, if He didn't show His hand at Auschwitz, He's not going to do anything about us now.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 15, 2015 08:06 AM (zF6Iw)

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You may enjoy this. Saw it decades ago and havent found a copy until now. The guy who plays the secular actor is great.

http://www.veoh.com/watch/v17509143NTqKZtNF

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 15, 2015 09:17 AM (iQIUe)

237 "...I'm of the belief that god doesnt give a shit..."

Seek find
Ask Given
Knock Open

Basis of free will. Responsible for what is asked.

Posted by: expectations at September 15, 2015 09:17 AM (CzhL0)

238 Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 08:43 AM (t2KH5)
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your facts are off Vic, as in wrong, and you can see it at the chart I linked.

Posted by: MTF at September 15, 2015 09:17 AM (TxJGV)

239 238 your facts are off Vic, as in wrong, and you can see it at the chart I linked.

Posted by: MTF at September 15, 2015 09:17 AM (TxJGV)

I trust the census people more than the SS people on this.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at September 15, 2015 09:19 AM (t2KH5)

240 Obama is Camacho. People never fully realize their fate until it's too late.

Posted by: waiting for smod at September 15, 2015 09:20 AM (47csT)

241 Left trucked out their whole "you're going to put granny out on an ice floe" rhetoric again.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel

I thought the ice floes all melted?

Posted by: President Jean at September 15, 2015 09:22 AM (ztOda)

242 "If we had an opposition party they would defund this crap and stop it."

We're just one election away! Swearsies!

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at September 15, 2015 09:24 AM (47csT)

243 "...Trump is the best available weapon to murder the GOP..."

The GOP is a zombie. Trump may stop it from eating brains.

We need a system that has incentives for people-who-aren't-particularlly-good to be productive. That translates to Love and/or Lash. Germaticus or Tiberius. Patton or Bradley. Reagan or Nixon. Obama or H. Clinton.

Posted by: truth at September 15, 2015 09:26 AM (HSAmh)

244 I imagine that those Middle Eastern refugees are mostly healthy, and won't be a burden on any healthcare systems anywhere. All together, the pie may need to be cut into smaller pieces though, since it would be anti-socialist to create more pie.

Posted by: goon at September 15, 2015 09:27 AM (gy5kE)

245 We're just one election away! Swearsies!
Posted by: Mitch McConnell

Mitch is up for re-election!

Posted by: President Jean at September 15, 2015 09:27 AM (ztOda)

246 We should not expect God to intervene on behalf of a nation that has turned its back on Him.

Posted by: V the K at September 15, 2015 08:13 AM (O7MnT)

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I wouldn't expect God to be that petty. Not everyone in the nation turned their backs to Him, and I think he has the capability to award and punish individually if needed.

I'd rather be told that God created life and reality with self-determination, or that He set the watch and let's it tick, rather than be told we're all ignored because "some" people pissed Him off.

Posted by: Saltydonnie at September 15, 2015 09:28 AM (i6shs)

247 Couldn't seem to drop that self-indulgent sock

Posted by: Jean at September 15, 2015 09:28 AM (ztOda)

248 I imagine that those Middle Eastern refugees are mostly healthy

Its the people around them that have the problem, and the goats

Posted by: Jean at September 15, 2015 09:30 AM (ztOda)

249 Sigh, did I get Willow'd?

Posted by: Jean at September 15, 2015 09:30 AM (ztOda)

250 "...Galveston county (TX), opted out of social security for its employees years ago..."

Do they retire after twenty with Galveston and get a job that is covered by SS till they retire permanent? Called double dipping and is quite common. I have mixed feelings about the practice. Bad public policy but I don't fault them for doing what is best for their family.

Posted by: curious at September 15, 2015 09:39 AM (HSAmh)

251 Girl Marines can't hack it in a rifle company.

The science is settled.

Obama's Secty of the Navy is a science Denier.

It is not just the "mission" of a rifle company that does them in but the day to day life in a Marine rifle company is no easy picnic. PT, training, PM weapons and vehicles and all the while putting up with your fellow grunts with the burping, farting, sexual innuendoes, cursing and basic hard ass attitudes would tax even Hillary. Then there's the drinking and whore chasing after hours which is a whole other matter altogether.

Posted by: Zombie Maj.Gen. Smedley Butler at September 15, 2015 09:40 AM (D0NZx)

252 My belief is that we live in a multiverse. I live in a world that is a result of collective prayers that aren't mutually exclusive. I think the movie "Bruce Almighty" illustrates a lot of these principles. Don't like what you are getting? Change your beliefs and expectations. Remember. For God all things are possible. For me that is also true if I want to be insane. :-) Otherwise I must change.

Posted by: my belief at September 15, 2015 09:46 AM (HSAmh)

253 Surely "The Road to Camacho" would have to be "Idiocracy -1"?

Oh, "2". Got it.

Posted by: Patrick Carroll at September 15, 2015 01:08 PM (bpn7O)

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