Morning Thread (9-10-2015)

@trscoop: THAT WAS QUICK: Trump now says America has TOO MANY PROBLEMS to accept migrants from Syria http://t.co/jX76dk4K0W http://t.co/vtu0rxkFXy

Posted by: Andy at 06:15 AM

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1 Can not be.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at September 10, 2015 06:18 AM (X+nFp)

2 The great thing about being Donald Trump is you can turn your opinions on a dime.

It would be great if his justification was, "I didn't realize that position would be unpopular, so I'm taking a different one."

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 10, 2015 06:18 AM (bxoVs)

3 Trump is gonna Trump

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at September 10, 2015 06:19 AM (X+nFp)

4 DAY 1,038

425 to go (498 to Inauguration Day 2017)

Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, Mao-suits, McCain's, McConnell's, Mahdi megatons, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, mewling mattress myth manufacturers, marriage maimers, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Myrmidons, Mugwumps, Monrovian microbes, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microaggressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 06:22 AM (St6BJ)

5
At least Trump is thinking, "shit, I better not piss off my supporters."

The GOP-e? Not so much.

Advantage, Trump.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 06:23 AM (St6BJ)

6
DAY 5 of el ropa higienico por las mujeres.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 06:25 AM (St6BJ)

7 Trump is gonna be Trump.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 10, 2015 06:25 AM (VPLuQ)

8 Lastly, re Trump, I think the Milton Friedman maxim is in effect. To wit, making it politically profitable for "bad" people to do the right thing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 06:26 AM (St6BJ)

9 I admire Trump's license to inconsistency. He is the perfect embodiment of the current zeitgeist and as a result has a real chance of going all the way.

Posted by: TrumpForte at September 10, 2015 06:28 AM (6mmmz)

10 He evolved...rather quickly!

Posted by: Thurston Howell Trump at September 10, 2015 06:28 AM (PqEKP)

11 9 I admire Trump's license to inconsistency. He is the perfect embodiment of the current zeitgeist and as a result has a real chance of going all the way.
Posted by: TrumpForte at September 10, 2015 06:28 AM (6mmmz)

In that light, I take you back to the fall of 1972 . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swicdtaddy0

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 06:30 AM (St6BJ)

12 Morning, all.

**takes long drink of water, wishing for some whisky flavoring**

I really need a new job. Anybody in northern MA or southern NH hiring? Anybody?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 10, 2015 06:30 AM (zF6Iw)

13 The customer is always right. Harry Gordon Selfridge and The Donald Trump

Posted by: Lester at September 10, 2015 06:30 AM (2UPXV)

14 Help me Pixy, you are my only hope.

Home IP is blocked.

#twoweeks

Posted by: Gmac - IP banned at home - #twoweeks at September 10, 2015 06:30 AM (4pjhs)

15 Sessions spanked him.

Posted by: Smarty at September 10, 2015 06:31 AM (OmA12)

16 At least Trump is thinking, "shit, I better not piss off my supporters."

The GOP-e? Not so much.

Advantage, Trump.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 06:23 AM (St6BJ)

That's exactly how I see it, JJ. And I'd much rather have a politician who cares what his constituents think than one who thinks he's so much better than the thoughtless little proles that he has to make every decision for them, for their own good.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 06:31 AM (J+mig)

17 Flexibility - it's a good thing for tactics, not so much for values.

Morning, Glories! Where's the sun? Where's Vic? Where's my coffee? Oh, wait, I can take care of the last one...

Posted by: mindful webworker - in early 4 me at September 10, 2015 06:32 AM (5t9V6)

18 6

I haven't seen those ads for a couple of days. Thankfully I'm once again seeing Credit Union of Texas. In English. I have no clue why it stopped. Gift horses and all...

Posted by: Usedtocould at September 10, 2015 06:32 AM (pz+6x)

19 17 Flexibility - it's a good thing for tactics, not so much for values.

Morning, Glories! Where's the sun? Where's Vic? Where's my coffee? Oh, wait, I can take care of the last one... Posted by: mindful webworker - in early 4 me at September 10, 2015 06:32 AM (5t9V6)

We've voted for values candidates for years and they've delivered jack and shit. At this point, it's time to go with the approach that has the virtue of never having been tried.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 06:34 AM (J+mig)

20 Trump being Trump. I still don't think he is 100% in for the long run though.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 10, 2015 06:35 AM (iONHu)

21 16 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 06:31 AM (J+mig)

Don't get me wrong; I am still supporting Trump's presence in the race, and not necessarily him as my choice of candidate.

We have 14 months until election day, and even if he runs away with the nomination, he still has to not do anything that will make me stay home.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 06:36 AM (St6BJ)

22 Are the elite doing better than the populous at making decisions right now? I would rather have a Trump who sticks in finger in the air to do what people want than the current buffoons who think they know better. You know the buffoons giving Iran the bomb.

Posted by: WOPR at September 10, 2015 06:36 AM (nRvEn)

23
The other thing is McCocksucker and company are, what's the word? LIARS. And then they pretend how conservative they are to Chris Wallace and Chuck Todd.

Pfft, go die in a fire.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 06:38 AM (St6BJ)

24 20
Trump being Trump. I still don't think he is 100% in for the long run though.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman

This might be a good thing if his VP is Cruz.

Posted by: Gmac - IP banned at home - #twoweeks at September 10, 2015 06:38 AM (4pjhs)

25 24 Posted by: Gmac - IP banned at home - #twoweeks at September 10, 2015 06:38 AM (4pjhs)

Prediction: if nothing else changes, I think Cruz will take that VP slot.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 06:39 AM (St6BJ)

26 Cato: We've voted for values candidates for years and they've delivered jack and shit....

Evidently not the right values. Or insincere candidates.

I think we tend to best discern values by observing the results. Know them by their fruits, as the Man said.

Posted by: mindful webworker - invaluable at September 10, 2015 06:41 AM (5t9V6)

27 Prediction: if nothing else changes, I think Cruz will take that VP slot.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 06:39 AM (St6BJ)

I agree. Cruz want to be president but he's not going to get a chance with the GOPe. He's young enough to be VP for Trump and then run after Trump is done.

Posted by: WOPR at September 10, 2015 06:41 AM (nRvEn)

28 16 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 06:31 AM (J+mig)

It's also important he care about what his constituents think AFTER he's elected. But that's another story for another time.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 06:41 AM (St6BJ)

29 W00T!!! I was all like, "et tu, Trump?"

Thanks, Andy. You've rescued me from the sadz. Looking forward to trumpetdaddy's apoplectic conniption fits over this.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 10, 2015 06:41 AM (CrC03)

30 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: Sulu at September 10, 2015 06:42 AM (u82oZ)

31 27 Prediction: if nothing else changes, I think Cruz will take that VP slot.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 06:39 AM (St6BJ)

I agree. Cruz want to be president but he's not going to get a chance with the GOPe. He's young enough to be VP for Trump and then run after Trump is done.
Posted by: WOPR at September 10, 2015 06:41 AM (nRvEn)

He will also have Trump's ear on a daily basis, which is a good thing.

We need another War-Cock in the co-pilot's seat.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 06:42 AM (St6BJ)

32 Off stupid sock. Still a good morning.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 10, 2015 06:43 AM (u82oZ)

33 20
Trump being Trump. I still don't think he is 100% in for the long run though.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 10, 2015 06:35 AM (iONHu)

My read on him? He's got everything a man can have, except a legacy. He wants one. And with the boat America's in, he's decided that he's got a fair chance of ending up on Rushmore if he manages to stay popular, give the American people what they want, and reverse this country's decline.
He could very well be a cynical self-aggrandizer and still be the best man for the job. It all depends on what he delivers when and if he gets to the Oval Office.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 06:43 AM (J+mig)

34 Diary Day Three: Running low on Pop Tarts, still no word from Publishers Clearing House and continuing to see Pink Ads for Feminine Hygiene Products. Must be getting delusional.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 10, 2015 06:43 AM (iONHu)

35 Old and busted: "Is the Pope Catholic?"
Renewed hotness: "Does a bear shit in the woods?"

Posted by: Spellcheck at September 10, 2015 06:44 AM (j+aWk)

36 If we put them up at the UN building, then fine. Otherwise, fuck 'em. Let the stupid Krauts have as many as they can eat.

Australia is wisely allowing only Christians, who are actually refugees, and not a 5th column.

Posted by: mojo at September 10, 2015 06:47 AM (OmBeX)

37 The Right Scoop has been engaging in very misleading headlines about this since the other night. Ever since Trump went on O'Reilly, TRS has claimed that Trump said we should take them in, when context shows Trump ALSO said: "we need to find out where they are coming from and what they represent... they are a security risk... ISIS" might be among them. So, Trump's been wise to the dangers all along.

I would also suggest that Trump would want to take in only the Christians (as Abbott in Australia is doing) because Trump has defended Middle Eastern Christians in every speech for weeks now. Further, Trump has complained that Syrian Christians cannot get into America, yet Syrian Muslims can very easily.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 10, 2015 06:48 AM (xetep)

38
If Trump becomes president his biggest, most vicious opponent will be the GOP - especially if Ted Cruz is the VP.

They will attempt to McDaniel his ass before, during and afterwards.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 06:48 AM (St6BJ)

39 That's a good thing, and I'm glad that he has clarified his position to more clearly align with Carly's. It will make it easier for her to choose him as her choice for VP.

Posted by: goon at September 10, 2015 06:48 AM (gy5kE)

40 36
If we put them up at the UN building, then fine. Otherwise, fuck 'em. Let the stupid Krauts have as many as they can eat.

Australia is wisely allowing only Christians, who are actually refugees, and not a 5th column.

Posted by: mojo at September 10, 2015 06:47 AM (OmBeX)

Quarter them in the UN parking garage and make all of the diplo-scumbags and spies walk to work. Because fuck them in particular.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 06:49 AM (J+mig)

41 35 Old and busted: "Is the Pope Catholic?"
Renewed hotness: "Does a bear shit in the woods?"
Posted by: Spellcheck at September 10, 2015 06:44 AM (j+aWk)

Depends on what your definition of the word "Catholic" is.

How do you say "lighten up, Francis" en espanol.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 06:49 AM (St6BJ)

42 You guys are a year too early with your VP speculation. Lets see who is still in the race next fall.

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 06:50 AM (R5dBL)

43 39 That's a good thing, and I'm glad that he has clarified his position to more clearly align with Carly's. It will make it easier for her to choose him as her choice for VP.
Posted by: goon at September 10, 2015 06:48 AM (gy5kE)

Go long on mobile clinics for foreskin reattachment.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 06:51 AM (St6BJ)

44 42 You guys are a year too early with your VP speculation. Lets see who is still in the race next fall.
Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 06:50 AM (R5dBL)

You missed the most important word in those comments: IF.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 06:51 AM (St6BJ)

45 >>>At least Trump is thinking, "shit, I better not piss off my supporters."

Exactly, as opposed to "You'll eat your shit sandwich, and like it!"

This is why all anti-Trump criticisms are annoying and why they are ignored. You literally cannot get any worse than the GOPe. No real difference between them and the Dems. Anything else would by definition be an improvement.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 10, 2015 06:52 AM (CrC03)

46 The outrage at admitting only Christians would be hilarious. Heads would explode on every channel and on every blog. Do it!

Posted by: goon at September 10, 2015 06:52 AM (gy5kE)

47 Exactly, as opposed to "You'll eat your shit sandwich, and like it!"

This is why all anti-Trump criticisms are annoying and why they are
ignored. You literally cannot get any worse than the GOPe. No real
difference between them and the Dems. Anything else would by definition
be an improvement.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 10, 2015 06:52 AM (CrC03)

Even an honest knife in the back followed by maniacal laughter would be better than the whole pretend-fighting while rubber stamping the Obama agenda schtick.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 06:54 AM (J+mig)

48 45 Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at September 10, 2015 06:52 AM (CrC03)

My only differentiator between the two parties was the speed at which they take us over the cliff.

With the Iran sell-out, that goes right out the window.

One Party rule is here, or at least out in the open.

WAR

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 06:54 AM (St6BJ)

49 The outrage at admitting only Christians would be hilarious. Heads would explode on every channel and on every blog. Do it!
Posted by: goon at September 10, 2015 06:52 AM (gy5kE)

It would get even worse when you asked them why they hate brown people.

Posted by: WOPR at September 10, 2015 06:54 AM (nRvEn)

50
This map shows the results of a survey asking the world who they see as the biggest threat to world peace

https://goo.gl/K1iDwo

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 10, 2015 06:54 AM (iQIUe)

51 Is there going to be a red-line this time? Oh, I hope so!

Posted by: goon at September 10, 2015 06:55 AM (gy5kE)

52 49
The outrage at admitting only Christians would be hilarious. Heads would explode on every channel and on every blog. Do it!

Posted by: goon at September 10, 2015 06:52 AM (gy5kE)

It would get even worse when you asked them why they hate brown people.

Posted by: WOPR at September 10, 2015 06:54 AM (nRvEn)

Awesome. DO IT!

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 06:55 AM (J+mig)

53 "The outrage at admitting only Christians would be hilarious. Heads would explode on every channel and on every blog. Do it!"

At the Refugee Centers, ensure that every meal contains at least one pork product.

Align the latrines so that when sitting on the shitter, your asshole faces Medina(sp).

Play spritual hymns softly over the PA system for background music.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 10, 2015 06:58 AM (VPLuQ)

54 I didnt miss "If"; i just am helping you along rhe road to sobriety. One day at a time everyone.

Besides we still have der Fuhrer and his band of Progressives to contend with for another fifteen months or so. How do you really know there will even be elections? Corker and McConnell will be sorely disappointed, what with all their ridiculous strategeries to make the Democrats look bad while destroying civilization, but they'll probably decide "meh- nothing we can really do. Not the hill to die on. Ok-no elections."

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 06:58 AM (R5dBL)

55 This map shows the results of a survey asking the world who they see as the biggest threat to world peace

https://goo.gl/K1iDwo

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 10, 2015 06:54 AM (iQIUe)

That makes me sad. It's also why I say fuck the rest of the world, in particular. They can all go to hell, I'm in Texas.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 06:58 AM (J+mig)

56
I don't know how deep Trump's pockets really are, but I'd love to see a war chest set up right now with the goal of unseating McConnell, Corker, McCain, Graham, Alexander, Murkowski, Cochran and all the rest of the Vichy Quisling traitors.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 06:59 AM (St6BJ)

57 Syrian refugees, ya fiyuhd.

Posted by: Vbjonny at September 10, 2015 06:59 AM (NX9H4)

58 50
This map shows the results of a survey asking the world who they see as the biggest threat to world peace

https://goo.gl/K1iDwo

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 10, 2015 06:54 AM (iQIUe)

And yet we are still sending money and medicine and humanitarian aid to lots of those places. But then, I forgot to see the source of that map. Any dipshit can flap together a map and make a claim. It is suspect because it doesn't show us hating us.

Posted by: goon at September 10, 2015 07:00 AM (gy5kE)

59
Primary Day in Urinetown/Hymietown.

As a registered Democrat, should I vote Socialist, Far Left, Extreme Left, Shining Path or Red Army Faction?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 07:02 AM (St6BJ)

60 And yet we are still sending money and medicine and
humanitarian aid to lots of those places. But then, I forgot to see the
source of that map. Any dipshit can flap together a map and make a
claim. It is suspect because it doesn't show us hating us.

Posted by: goon at September 10, 2015 07:00 AM (gy5kE)

That's because God Bless America still outnumbers God Damn America. If we don't fix the border situation, though, it'll be Viva Aztlan in 20 years or less.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 07:02 AM (J+mig)

61 Remember how the words "European" and "Union" used to appear in juxtaposition?

Denmark has suspended all rail links with Germany after police stopped hundreds of migrants at the border. Danish police also closed a motorway between the two countries when some asylum seekers began walking north after being forced off a train.

They say their destination is Sweden.

BBC
http://bbc.in/1i0ee0Q

c/o Blazing Cat Fur
http://bit.ly/1JYhMu3

Posted by: mindful webworker - untied we stand at September 10, 2015 07:02 AM (5t9V6)

62 It is suspect because it doesn't show us hating us.

Posted by: goon at September 10, 2015 07:00 AM (gy5kE)

Mapmaker couldn't find a Gadsen flag so he did the next best thing: follow TFG's line that those who oppose him are just like the hardliners in Iran.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at September 10, 2015 07:03 AM (nFdGS)

63 51 Is there going to be a red-line this time? Oh, I hope so!

Sorry, no red lines after Labor Day.

Posted by: mojo at September 10, 2015 07:04 AM (OmBeX)

64 The refugees are starting to remind me of Democrats. They are heading for where the best free stuff is located. Smart.

Posted by: goon at September 10, 2015 07:04 AM (gy5kE)

65 63
51 Is there going to be a red-line this time? Oh, I hope so!

Sorry, no red lines after Labor Day.

Posted by: mojo at September 10, 2015 07:04 AM (OmBeX)

According to the new Obama Administration style guide, all lines must now be rainbow lines.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 07:04 AM (J+mig)

66 59
Primary Day in Urinetown/Hymietown.

As a registered Democrat, should I vote Socialist, Far Left, Extreme Left, Shining Path or Red Army Faction?

***

It doesn't matter who you vote for, all that matters is who the Party nominates.

Posted by: mojo at September 10, 2015 07:07 AM (OmBeX)

67 We've voted for values candidates for years and they've delivered jack and shit. At this point, it's time to go with the approach that has the virtue of never having been tried.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 06:34 AM (J+mig)

Voting for the same candidates over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of being a stupid fucking voter.

Posted by: RickZ at September 10, 2015 07:08 AM (HEtQ3)

68 After hearing yesterday's news about the GOP wanting to schedule the Iran vote on September 11, I'm all aboard the Trump train.

Tell me again, who is the clown show here? Because it's pretty tough to get more circus-like than the GOPe.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt TrumpProd (tm) at September 10, 2015 07:09 AM (Aivl/)

69 It doesn't matter who you vote for, all that matters is who the Party nominates.

Posted by: mojo at September 10, 2015 07:07 AM (OmBeX)

There will be 99% turnout and 99% of the vote for The Party's approved candidate. The Party is even humble enough not to claim 100%, because that's an obvious lie, but it's so beloved that only crackpots and traitors to the state would ever vote against it! Report your non-voting and wrong-voting neighbors today!
Also, the 5 year plan calls for more potatoes. Please plant more potatoes. Do it for the wodka. Nobody wants to go through Communism sober.

Posted by: Commissar Cato, Communism Coping Coordinator at September 10, 2015 07:10 AM (J+mig)

70
22 Are the elite doing better than the populous at making decisions right now? I would rather have a Trump who sticks in finger in the air to do what people want than the current buffoons who think they know better. You know the buffoons giving Iran the bomb.

Posted by: WOPR at September 10, 2015 06:36 AM (nRvEn)

What a unique idea, that thing about doing what the people want. That's a mind blowing leap in leadership style!

Posted by: goon at September 10, 2015 07:10 AM (gy5kE)

71 I think it's time we admit there's only one rational explanation for the GOPe's behavior in Congress: the other guys have several mid-sized nukes already deployed in the sewers under DC, the President has, patriotically, shared this information with the congressional leadership, and we have to find a way to surrender while still saving some face. Eliminate the impossible, and whatever remains, however unlikely, is the truth. Watson my gladstone; the game's afoot.

The best we can hope for now is a series of hearings, after the Caliphate is established, to make sure this Never Happens Again.

On a related note, Carly Fiorina has a thigh gap. Fine looking person in general, and especially considering her age vs Our Flawed Concepts of Youth and Beauty. Well, she's still not "my" candidate, but hey, thigh gap, hittable.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 10, 2015 07:11 AM (xq1UY)

72 Voting for the same candidates over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of being a stupid fucking voter. Posted by: RickZ at September 10, 2015 07:08 AM (HEtQ3)

I agree, and I've done write-ins with my own name before just to avoid having to vote for some asshole I couldn't stand.

And then I'd tell people that at least I got more votes in the last election than they did.

Posted by: Commissar Cato, Communism Coping Coordinator at September 10, 2015 07:11 AM (J+mig)

73 Off, Party-Approved Sock! You will be folded and put back in the drawer with loving care for when the time comes.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 07:12 AM (J+mig)

74 I've done write-ins with my own name before just to avoid having to vote for some asshole I couldn't stand.

Had to spend one whole work day with an employee, for a Mandated Study.
In chatting, he revealed that I was the second-biggest asshole he'd ever worked for.
Oh there was worse? I axed. "Oh yeah. I was self-employed."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 10, 2015 07:16 AM (xq1UY)

75 So, Trump changes his mind in a day. Shocked!

Today, pro life, yesterday pro choice, tomorrow, yeah whatever.

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 07:19 AM (0FSuD)

76 Calls for Christians to be given priority among Syrian refugees are discriminatory and reinforce a sense Muslims "are always going to be vilified in the Australian community," the country's highest Sunni authority has said.

Society really needs to grow up and quit being so discriminatory against murderers, rapists, kidnappers, torturers, misogynists, civilization-wreckers, and those who discriminate against non-Muslims.

BlazingCatFur
http://bit.ly/1Kc3s2u

Posted by: mindful webworker - discriminating at September 10, 2015 07:20 AM (5t9V6)

77 75 So, Trump changes his mind in a day. Shocked!

Today, pro life, yesterday pro choice, tomorrow, yeah whatever.

Yeah, look how pro life the GOP is.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 10, 2015 07:21 AM (bxoVs)

78 75 So, Trump changes his mind in a day. Shocked!

Today, pro life, yesterday pro choice, tomorrow, yeah whatever.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 07:19 AM (0FSuD)

Still better than the GOP-e. It's rain. Seriously. You can trust them.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 07:21 AM (J+mig)

79 The Spanish maxi pads ads are back!

Posted by: Killerdog at September 10, 2015 07:21 AM (chfmj)

80 If Trump becomes president his biggest, most vicious opponent will be the GOP - especially if Ted Cruz is the VP.

Pen & phone 'em.
"The GOPe are hereby declared as outlaws"

Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2015 07:21 AM (qjfjx)

81
What difference, at this point, does it make?!/1/!?!?1?1!?!?1!!??

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 10, 2015 07:21 AM (HSmrB)

82 Yeah, look how pro life the GOP is.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 10, 2015 07:21 AM (bxoVs)

What?

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 07:22 AM (0FSuD)

83 A quick flip in the right direction beats the reverse. And certainly beats An Act of Love.

Posted by: Anti-socialist at September 10, 2015 07:23 AM (vM/v3)

84 We are led by very, very stupid people!

--
Donald Trump

Trump/Cruz 2016 - Fuck you, WAR!

Posted by: Kreplach at September 10, 2015 07:24 AM (0tvq+)

85 I am thinking DC statehood. Yeah baby! Two more democrat senators and a democrat house member.

I am a real Conservative, trust me!

Posted by: The Clown Donald at September 10, 2015 07:24 AM (0FSuD)

86 I don't think there's anybody that thinks that Trump is actually a great choice. He's just pretty much the only choice.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. If we don't get control of the border now and deal with our own refugee crisis, in less than 20 years, the USA will be dead and gone, replaced by a typical Bolivarian Socialist trainwreck called Aztlan.

Nobody else is talking anything resembling common sense when it comes to immigration.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 07:25 AM (J+mig)

87 You, know I was thinking, what would really make the economy go?

A 14.25% tax on assets, you know your home and shit.

Yeah, I am a conservative! Yugh one!

Posted by: The Clown Donald at September 10, 2015 07:26 AM (0FSuD)

88 Trump's "we gotta accept them" was the the first really stupid thing he said.

Somebody got to him fast.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 10, 2015 07:30 AM (XHCpE)

89 * kicks blog *

Posted by: mindful webworker - hurts toe at September 10, 2015 07:30 AM (5t9V6)

90 Posted by: The Clown Donald at September 10, 2015 07:26 AM (0FSuD)

So which camp are you in?

Allow all of the cherubic face-tattooed young adult MS-13 "Dreamers" to stay?

Electronic Border, which will consist of three drones that are always out of order and a few of those road signs helpfully pointing which way to the nearest sanctuary city?

Triple the H1Bs, as if we need to make more people train their half-price replacements?

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 07:31 AM (J+mig)

91 Why is it none of these Aztlan loons seems to know why the Aztecs got wiped out?

Posted by: mojo at September 10, 2015 07:31 AM (OmBeX)

92 Bluebird of Bitterness passes along an amusing cartoon. Warning: contains cats.
http://bit.ly/cats-relig

Posted by: mindful webworker - thou art, art thou? at September 10, 2015 07:32 AM (5t9V6)

93
As a registered Democrat, should I vote Socialist, Far Left, Extreme Left, Shining Path or Red Army Faction?

Go Full Retard.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 10, 2015 07:33 AM (oVJmc)

94 Good: survived a visit to the Korean DMZ, now drinking heavily.

Bad: actually, very little, personally at the moment.

Ugly: can see the largest mosque in Seoul from my hotel room window.

Posted by: filbert, back from the DMZ at September 10, 2015 07:33 AM (eYYp4)

95 I'm hoping for a physical confrontation on debate night. Fight club, starring Trump beating on the Jeb robot. "You are low energy and ugly!", says Trump. "Thats crazy talk! You sir are no conservative!", says Jeb. Whereupon Trump lets him have it, on behalf of Americans everywhere.

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 07:34 AM (R5dBL)

96 Hey now, the GOP successfully banned abortions after 20 weeks and defunded an organization that is murdering babies and selling parts for profit. So they're totally pro life.

Oh wait...

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt TrumpProd (tm) at September 10, 2015 07:35 AM (Aivl/)

97 The UK yeah, they have a GREAT health plan. I think we need single payer health care here. I don't mind waiting six months for an operation.

Well actually, I won't wait, you little people will.

Posted by: The Clown Donald at September 10, 2015 07:35 AM (0FSuD)

98 Cats are okay as long as they're just in a cartoon.

G'mornin', Horde.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 10, 2015 07:35 AM (go6ud)

99 Yes. Trump is taking that position with language that allows him a backdoor if they try to "dead child" him.

trump has huckster's position on PP, and they released a statement praising him.

But please regale us on how Trump is the idiot. Lol.

Trump is going to see this to the end, if for nothing else how viciously he has been attacked. If those dumb fucks at nro had simply been polite, perhaps Trump would have a way out. Now he has to go all the way.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 07:36 AM (S85kT)

100 You know I love women, but sometimes you have to treat them like shit.

Posted by: The Clown Donald at September 10, 2015 07:37 AM (0FSuD)

101 97 The UK yeah, they have a GREAT health plan. I think we need single payer health care here. I don't mind waiting six months for an operation.

Well actually, I won't wait, you little people will.
Posted by: The Clown Donald at September 10, 2015 07:35 AM (0FSuD)

You know what? I'm not even going to bother arguing that.
Fuck it.Why? Because even that would be better than Obamacare.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 07:37 AM (J+mig)

102 Bet Apple or Google buys this...

http://www.ufunk.net/en/gadgets/camera-restricta/

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 10, 2015 07:38 AM (9tnUZ)

103 Women love wine, down their back!

http://tinyurl.com/nnvgft8

Posted by: The Clown Donald at September 10, 2015 07:38 AM (0FSuD)

104 Oh look, the chocolate ration has been increased.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/nvcw3sg

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 10, 2015 07:40 AM (9tnUZ)

105 Great, fascist cameras. Just what we need.

Posted by: mojo at September 10, 2015 07:40 AM (OmBeX)

106 Australia is wisely allowing only Christians, who are actually refugees, and not a 5th column.
_________________

I'd be willing to take in the Syrian Christians, who really are at risk and in need of sanctuary. Problem is, how do you separate out the real ones from the taqiyya-lying fake ones?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 10, 2015 07:41 AM (a31sM)

107 You know how we should solve this national debt thing?

We'll have the country declare bankruptcy! It worked for me, FOUR times!

http://tinyurl.com/of97alb

Posted by: The Clown Donald at September 10, 2015 07:41 AM (0FSuD)

108 Looks like Yector has competition this morning.

Posted by: Anti-socialist at September 10, 2015 07:42 AM (q7oNT)

109 The 14.25 tax was on those with assets of over 10MM, but please continue your lying.

For years Trump has been warning about muslim immigration, but even conservative blogs took him out of context re refugees. Sigh. It's very annoying that what i consider great blogs haven't done their fucking homework.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 07:43 AM (S85kT)

110 I'd be willing to take in the Syrian Christians, who really are at risk and in need of sanctuary. Problem is, how do you separate out the real ones from the taqiyya-lying fake ones?

Give 'em a ham sammich

Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2015 07:43 AM (qjfjx)

111 97 The UK yeah, they have a GREAT health plan. I think we need single payer health care here. I don't mind waiting six months for an operation.

"We've got a great benefits package in the CIA. But staying alive; yeah, that's the key to the benefits package."

- -Vince Ricardo

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 07:44 AM (St6BJ)

112 http://www.ufunk.net/en/gadgets/camera-restricta/
Posted by: Anna Puma

"... If the number of photographs is too high, meaning that the place where you are is already widely photographed, the Camera Restricta will formally forbid you to take a photograph, prompting you to find another approach...."

Oh, yes, please, what I want is more things that restrict my choices!

I can see this being expanded to innumerable activities....

Posted by: mindful webworker - beat me, whip me, make me take bad photos at September 10, 2015 07:44 AM (5t9V6)

113 For years Trump has been warning about muslim immigration, but even conservative blogs took him out of context re refugees.

Sigh. It's very annoying that what i consider great blogs haven't done their fucking homework.

At this point, it's intentional.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2015 07:45 AM (qjfjx)

114 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 10, 2015 07:45 AM (ZQfW9)

115 "... If the number of photographs is too high, meaning that the place where you are is already widely photographed, the Camera Restricta will formally forbid you to take a photograph, prompting you to find another approach...."

Oh, yes, please, what I want is more things that restrict my choices!

I can see this being expanded to innumerable activities....

Fuck a democrat camera.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2015 07:46 AM (qjfjx)

116 Just wait Putin, I am also going to shave your head!

http://tinyurl.com/nqun47x

Posted by: The Clown Donald at September 10, 2015 07:47 AM (0FSuD)

117 Give 'em a ham sammich

Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2015 07:43 AM (qjfjx)

I was just figuring on bacon.Then I thought "follow it up with Communion."If they break two dietary guidelines and participate in a kafir's religious ceremony, they're probably legit.But just in case, you videotape the whole thing and tell them that if they've been false, you're dumping them in Raqqa in an orange jumpsuit, hog tied, with a copy of the video taped to their back.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 07:48 AM (J+mig)

118 RickB, i think so, at least at hot gas. It's ridiculous. But even breitbart fucked this up, although nolte was better.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 07:49 AM (S85kT)

119 The creators have not really thought things out with the camera. It would wipe out photos of the Brandenburg Gate or the Christ state at Rio. Or the President of the United States, oh wait there is an upside.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 10, 2015 07:50 AM (9tnUZ)

120 There is no process to determine Christian Syrian, from Extremists.

The extremists will eat a ham sandwich, burn a koran and even seek approval to widening his anal cavity with the assistance of fellow jihadi's to make space for explosives.

It's just a weak excuse to allow them in using the pillar of love mentality. Never works.

Posted by: Drider at September 10, 2015 07:50 AM (6Xbsz)

121 Give 'em a ham sammich
______________

They'd just eat it. (Maybe throw it up later, but still). Taqiyya gives them permission to do whatever they need to do to fool the infidels. No dedicated Muslim is going to let a little pork stand between him and world domination (or that sweet, sweet western wealth).

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 10, 2015 07:50 AM (a31sM)

122 Primary Day in Urinetown/Hymietown.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 07:02 AM (St6BJ)

Not for me, J.J. No contests. In true Democrat fashion.

Posted by: RickZ at September 10, 2015 07:50 AM (HEtQ3)

123 Problem is, how do you separate out the real ones from the taqiyya-lying fake ones?

I expect any good Syrian Orthodox priest could help you out with that one.
I don't suppose a lot of wannabe terroristas are going to take 2 or 3 years of catechism classes just to make their cover story viable. And the tenets of Orthodox Christianity aren't covered in the madrasas curriculum, in any depth.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 10, 2015 07:51 AM (xq1UY)

124 My dad was in Europe somewhere near Heidelberg and got in trouble for taking a picture of a sign that said basically "Don't take pictures of the documents displayed here".

Just the sign outside mind you but he said the attendant threw a fit.

Posted by: freaked at September 10, 2015 07:51 AM (BO/km)

125 I gotta tell you, if a one time tax on those with more than 10MM in assets would have retired our national debt...

I wouldn't have given a fuck. In fact, sounds like a responsible thing to do.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 07:52 AM (S85kT)

126 @108 "Looks like Yector has competition this morning.-Anti-socialist

That's just Nip-Sip. Must work for the RNC.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at September 10, 2015 07:52 AM (1uTkE)

127 I have the pulse of Trump. Remember yesterday, I said if Trump really would take in thousands of refugees, he is dead to me.

Of course, I suspected when he was speaking that it was an off the cuff remark.

Now I'm different on this issue than most of the people here. I do think we have some obligation as a country to assist. After all our country help create the mess (well really Obama did).

I would take in a thousand women and children, set them up in a camp in Gitmo, or perhaps a base in the Mediterrean.

However, Trump or whoever will not be President until January 2017, so really everything about this is out of his hands, except for the capability to mold and shape public opinion.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 10, 2015 07:53 AM (LXJ1e)

128 126
@108 "Looks like Yector has competition this morning.-Anti-socialist

That's just Nip-Sip. Must work for the RNC.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at September 10, 2015 07:52 AM (1uTkE)
Nah, just sick of the Trump love. What happen to Carly and Scott?
People that aren't fucking idiots?

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 07:54 AM (0FSuD)

129 Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 07:54 AM (0FSuD)

They can come up with a solid immigration position or they can go home.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 07:55 AM (J+mig)

130 Yay more Trumpism, aka "Make-it-up-as-you-go"-ism

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 07:55 AM (2XMpf)

131 Give 'em a ham sammich
______________

They'd just eat it. (Maybe throw it up later, but still). Taqiyya gives them permission to do whatever they need to do to fool the infidels. No dedicated Muslim is going to let a little pork stand between him and world domination (or that sweet, sweet western wealth).

Ham sammich AND a puppy.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2015 07:55 AM (qjfjx)

132 Oh, and fuck the RNC. This... http://tinyurl.com/pjpzpmb

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 07:55 AM (0FSuD)

133 If those dumb fucks at nro had simply been polite, perhaps Trump would have a way out. Now he has to go all the way.

Speaking of the nickelfuckers at NRO:

http://goo.gl/6tStqw

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 10, 2015 07:55 AM (zF6Iw)

134 Nah, just sick of the Trump love. What happen to Carly and Scott?
People that aren't fucking idiots?

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 07:54 AM (0FSuD)

Don't forget Lindsey....he's knockin' 'em dead in SC.

Posted by: BignJames at September 10, 2015 07:56 AM (EICks)

135 Trump has an accelerated evolution gene.

Now let's all raise hell about accepting ISIS refugees and use him as the bullhorn.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at September 10, 2015 07:57 AM (pq97T)

136 You know I love women, but sometimes you have to treat them like shit.
Posted by: The Clown Donald at September 10, 2015 07:37 AM (0FSuD)

Yes, because when Sandra Bernhard screamed that she wanted Sarah Palin to be raped by a bunch of big black bucks, Juan McStain halted his campaign and demanded a public apology and called for boycotting any MFM outlet she appeared on.

Oh, wait. . .

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 10, 2015 07:57 AM (zF6Iw)

137 Jeb let his mask slip for those needing to actually see it.

He seems to feel that the 10th amendment trumps the 2nd.
He basically said that while talking to Colbert.

Of course we have to understand that it took a lot of energy for Jeb to even make it to the show so he was no doubt winded and dizzy and just rambling on.

Posted by: Drider at September 10, 2015 07:58 AM (6Xbsz)

138 They can come up with a solid immigration position or they can go home.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 07:55 AM (J+mig)

A point well taken. Not the most important problem the nation faces.
I would suggest re arming and facing China and Russia is our first priority, unless you speak Mandarin.

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 07:58 AM (0FSuD)

139 They can come up with a solid immigration position or they can go home.

Trump doesn't have a solid immigration position, he has a fantasy immigration position.

And besides, what is to stop him from changing his mind tomorrow and deciding that illegals are now totes okay?

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 07:58 AM (2XMpf)

140 GOPe Clown Show:

Failed to defund Planned Parenthood.
Failed to pass a ban on abortions pas 20 weeks.
Ensured Iran will get nukes.
Failed to defund/stop Obama's illegal immigration orders.
Failed to defund, let alone repeal, Obamacare.
Failed to stop using Continuing Resolutions.
Failed to cut government spending.
Failed to stop the IRS from persecuting conservatives.
I could keep going, but you get the picture.

Most, if not all, of these were campaign promises. But...but...the GOPe only has a majority in the Senate and House! You can't expect them to be able to DO things!!!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt TrumpProd (tm) at September 10, 2015 07:59 AM (Aivl/)

141 87 You, know I was thinking, what would really make the economy go?

A 14.25% tax on assets, you know your home and shit.

Yeah, I am a conservative! Yugh one!

Posted by: The Clown Donald at September 10, 2015 07:26 AM (0FSuD)

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If enough to retire the debt AND tied to a balance budget amendment. Might work in 1999.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 10, 2015 07:59 AM (LXJ1e)

142 >>96 Hey now, the GOP successfully banned abortions after 20 weeks and defunded an organization that is murdering babies and selling parts for profit. So they're totally pro life.

The thing is, states have tried to pass this kind of stuff an they keep getting overruled by courts. Courts the problem IMO.

Posted by: Lea at September 10, 2015 07:59 AM (vmMMi)

143
Don't forget Lindsey....he's knockin' 'em dead in SC.

Posted by: BignJames at September 10, 2015 07:56 AM (EICks)

The question unasked. How does SC, the heart of the South, have TWO ghey senators? Seriously.

Every seen Scoot or Graham with a woman?

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 08:00 AM (0FSuD)

144 59
Primary Day in Urinetown/Hymietown.

As a registered Democrat, should I vote Socialist, Far Left, Extreme Left, Shining Path or Red Army Faction?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 07:02 AM (St6BJ)
-----

Ich empfehle Rote Armee Fraktion

auch meine cousin Ruth Baader-Meinhoff

Posted by: Geist Andreas Baader at September 10, 2015 08:01 AM (cJ+9T)

145 Nip Sip,

Trump literally destroyed Carly. He's been figuring it out since her potshot at him at the first debate.

I like Walker and I think Trump does too, but if his joke against walker gets any press walker is done too.

Lol

Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 08:01 AM (S85kT)

146 Wouldn't bringing in the syrian refugees be against the strategy of letting the middle east burn?

Posted by: Draki at September 10, 2015 08:01 AM (0eidE)

147 On the eve of the anniversary:

More than 20 terror plots have been foiled in New York since the September 11, 2001 terror attacks, according to the city's police chief on Tuesday (Sep , who said the risk of another devastating attack remains "greater than ever". ... "in many respects, we currently face a greater likelihood of attack than we have seen in years".
-ChannelNewsAsia
http://bit.ly/1Qqp0t3

c/o BlazingCatFur
http://bit.ly/1NrpRLQ

Posted by: mindful webworker - 2001 was 14 years ago at September 10, 2015 08:01 AM (5t9V6)

148 A point well taken. Not the most important problem the nation faces.
I would suggest re arming and facing China and Russia is our first priority, unless you speak Mandarin.
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 07:58 AM (0FSuD)

China's falling apart economically, they couldn't launch operations if they wanted to, and while Russia now has a few nice post-Soviet toys, most of their military is using gear that should have been sent to the scrapheap decades ago.
I think you're vastly overestimating the threat they pose, and vastly underestimating how close we are to hitting a tipping point when it comes to foreign culture swamping and replacing our own. It's already happened in parts of FL, whenever I go to visit my brother, it's nothing but Spanish language billboards. Most of the reason for that ain't my old Cubano friends, either...

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 08:02 AM (J+mig)

149 Trump is basically the embodiment of revenge porn against the establishment.

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:02 AM (2XMpf)

150 dangergirl----"GOPe Clown Show:

Failed to defund Planned Parenthood.
Failed to pass a ban on abortions pas 20 weeks.
Ensured Iran will get nukes.
Failed to defund/stop Obama's illegal immigration orders.
Failed to defund, let alone repeal, Obamacare.
Failed to stop using Continuing Resolutions.
Failed to cut government spending.
Failed to stop the IRS from persecuting conservatives.
I could keep going, but you get the picture.

Most, if not all, of these were campaign promises. But...but...the GOPe only has a majority in the Senate and House! You can't expect them to be able to DO things!!! "

You got that right.........But........Well, maybe vote them into the WH one more time and that will all chance.

ROTFLMAO!

Posted by: Drider at September 10, 2015 08:02 AM (6Xbsz)

151 139 They can come up with a solid immigration position or they can go home.

Trump doesn't have a solid immigration position, he has a fantasy immigration position.

And besides, what is to stop him from changing his mind tomorrow and deciding that illegals are now totes okay?
Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 07:58 AM (2XMpf)

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Well in negotiations you start by laying out what you want and then some, not what you expect to get. If our starting position is "meeting them halfway" (which is the default negotiation tactic of the GOP) we will always lose.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 10, 2015 08:03 AM (LXJ1e)

152 The question unasked. How does SC, the heart of the South, have TWO ghey senators? Seriously.

Every seen Scoot or Graham with a woman?

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 08:00 AM (0FSuD)

Diversity! We got Yankees too!

Posted by: BignJames at September 10, 2015 08:03 AM (EICks)

153 ChemJeff and they deserve it, Like Chucky at a toy convention.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 10, 2015 08:03 AM (9tnUZ)

154
Trump literally destroyed Carly. He's been figuring it out since her potshot at him at the first debate.

Maybe you watched a different debate than I did, Carly wasn't on the same stage as Trump in the Fox debate. WTF are you talking about?

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 08:03 AM (0FSuD)

155 59
Primary Day in Urinetown/Hymietown.

As a registered Democrat, should I vote Socialist, Far Left, Extreme Left, Shining Path or Red Army Faction?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 07:02 AM (St6BJ)

Why mess around? Go with Shining Path and hope that you eventually get your own Alberto Fujimori. Sometimes things have to get worse to get better.

Posted by: joncelli, feeling fresh in Spanish at September 10, 2015 08:03 AM (RD7QR)

156 The question unasked. How does SC, the heart of the South, have TWO ghey senators? Seriously.

It's that dance they do in the coastal areas. The Shag. Or maybe it's the mustard bbq sauce. Gotta be one of these.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 10, 2015 08:03 AM (JO9+V)

157 The thing is, states have tried to pass this kind of stuff an they keep getting overruled by courts. Courts the problem IMO.
Posted by: Lea at September 10, 2015 07:59 AM (vmMMi
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The problem is, they wouldn't even take a vote on it because "war on wimmenz!!!!"

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt TrumpProd (tm) at September 10, 2015 08:03 AM (Aivl/)

158 Yes chemjeff, please regale us with stories that jeff fucking sessions' immigration policy is "fantasy" or "not conservative"

You do realize you're delusional, right?

Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 08:04 AM (S85kT)

159 Don't forget Lindsey....he's knockin' 'em dead in SC.
Posted by: BignJames at September 10, 2015 07:56 AM (EICks)

You're lumping Graham in with Fiorina and Walker? Really?

All of the candidates are problematic. I like Carly a hell of a lot more than Trump.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. (brandisher of ampersands) at September 10, 2015 08:04 AM (P8951)

160 dangergirl----"GOPe Clown Show:

Failed to defund Planned Parenthood.
Failed to pass a ban on abortions pas 20 weeks.
Ensured Iran will get nukes.
Failed to defund/stop Obama's illegal immigration orders.
Failed to defund, let alone repeal, Obamacare.
Failed to stop using Continuing Resolutions.
Failed to cut government spending.
Failed to stop the IRS from persecuting conservatives.
I could keep going, but you get the picture.
Posted by: Drider at September 10, 2015 08:02 AM (6Xbsz)

It like they want us to reject them.

Posted by: Draki at September 10, 2015 08:04 AM (0eidE)

161
Diversity! We got Yankees too!

Posted by: BignJames at September 10, 2015 08:03 AM (EICks)

Only around Charleston and Hilton Head.

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 08:04 AM (0FSuD)

162 The Daily Caller has hit rock bottom in click-baitery. They've posted pictures of Katy Perry for no reason other than she's bursting out of her dress, grinning all the while. Feminists should be up in arms over this!

I was so disgusted I spent fifteen minutes contemplating the pictures before posting them for you.

http://bit.ly/1EPYXKQ

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 08:05 AM (TxJGV)

163 "It like they want us to reject them."

It no longer matter what they "want".

Posted by: Drider at September 10, 2015 08:05 AM (6Xbsz)

164 And besides, what is to stop him from changing his mind tomorrow and deciding that illegals are now totes okay?

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 07:58 AM (2XMpf)

Everyone else's default position is "let them in" and "more H1B", without any real effort to secure the border.
So if Trump caves and goes full illegal immigration, we're back where we'd be with anybody else. And the USA still dies in 20 years.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 08:05 AM (J+mig)

165
It's that dance they do in the coastal areas. The Shag. Or maybe it's the mustard bbq sauce. Gotta be one of these.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 10, 2015 08:03 AM (JO9+V)

LOL!!

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 08:05 AM (0FSuD)

166 Yes, she was going after Trump, sniping at him when he couldn't defend himself. Don't think Trump didn't notice. He did.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 08:05 AM (S85kT)

167 It's 6:08 a.m., American. Another day closer to victory.

We can
dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind; because your
friends don't dance, and if they don't dance, then they're no friends of
mine.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 10, 2015 08:06 AM (yxw0r)

168 I like Trump and Jindal and Cruz. I would also vote for Walker if he was the nominated candidate. But we have to be prepared for an endless onslaught of abuse aimed at Trump or Cruz by the GOPE and the MSM. The MSM and GOPe are at war with America.

Posted by: Chilling the most at September 10, 2015 08:06 AM (BI43k)

169 That camera is the stupidest idea yet. Go on vacation to Niagara Falls or the Grand Canyon and not be able to take pictures? I am sure the cameras will be flying off the shelves.

Posted by: Cicero Skip at September 10, 2015 08:07 AM (FIrEF)

170 prescient11 calling people delusional is not scoring you any points.

Posted by: freaked at September 10, 2015 08:07 AM (BO/km)

171 134 Nah, just sick of the Trump love. What happen to Carly and Scott?
People that aren't fucking idiots?

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 07:54 AM (0FSuD)

Nice big write up in NRO about what happened to Walker. Apparently he is getting so much conflicting advice from "consultants" that he is getting confused.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 10, 2015 08:07 AM (LXJ1e)

172 The Daily Caller has hit rock bottom in click-baitery. They've posted pictures of Katy Perry for no reason other than she's bursting out of her dress, grinning all the while. Feminists should be up in arms over this!

I was so disgusted I spent fifteen minutes contemplating the pictures before posting them for you.

http://bit.ly/1EPYXKQ
Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 08:05 AM (TxJGV)

Finally a good submission for the dump.

Posted by: Draki at September 10, 2015 08:07 AM (0eidE)

173 Only around Charleston and Hilton Head.

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 08:04 AM (0FSuD)

They're invading the Upstate as we speak.

Posted by: BignJames at September 10, 2015 08:08 AM (EICks)

174 168 I like Trump and Jindal and Cruz. I would also vote for Walker if he was the nominated candidate. But we have to be prepared for an endless onslaught of abuse aimed at Trump or Cruz by the GOPE and the MSM. The MSM and GOPe are at war with America.
Posted by: Chilling the most at September 10, 2015 08:06 AM (BI43k)

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Agree. I probably could have written that myself.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 10, 2015 08:08 AM (LXJ1e)

175 Morning all

Look Trump is no foriegn policy expert and he admits as much, BUT BUT BUT unlike the jackass in the White House, Trump probably has Foreign Policy wonks on his payroll now and he actually LISTENS TO THEM..like any good Exec does.

Fuck Fredo

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2015 08:08 AM (gf8BH)

176 Miz Lindsay is a Southern belle. You can't blame Yankees for that one.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. (brandisher of ampersands) at September 10, 2015 08:08 AM (P8951)

177 The MSM and GOPe are at war with America. Posted by: Chilling the most at September 10, 2015 08:06 AM (BI43k)

And they absolutely hate Donald Trump.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 08:08 AM (J+mig)

178 Again with the tampon ads in the sidebar? SRSLY?

Posted by: V the K at September 10, 2015 08:08 AM (O7MnT)

179 I like rum.

Been up all night worrying about family shit, so fuck all of you. i am going back to bed.

Grown up kids can be a total pain in the ass.

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 08:09 AM (0FSuD)

180 128 132

A couple of thoughts. First it's the silly season. Is anybody but the political junkies paying attention?

Second, the GOPe has already crowned Jeb as the one to beat well before the silly season started. Carly and Scott were never going to be in play. If Trump, drops we will once again be shown who we're supposed to vote for.

So, silly season and a poke in the GOPe eye. Go Trump!

IMHO

Posted by: Usedtocould at September 10, 2015 08:09 AM (pz+6x)

181 Nice big write up in NRO about what happened to Walker. Apparently he is getting so much conflicting advice from "consultants" that he is getting confused.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 10, 2015 08:07 AM (LXJ1e)
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I can believe this. Some of the things he has said in the past few weeks have been off the rails.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt TrumpProd (tm) at September 10, 2015 08:09 AM (Aivl/)

182
A point well taken. Not the most important problem the nation faces.

I suggest that you are incorrect. The current immigration policy tells citizens that their citizenship means nothing. Who will fight for us should we need to fight? I laughed at a leftist tweet yesterday that said,'if the Republicans oppose the Iran deal they should enlist their children in the military for the war it will cause". The military is majority Rep. with a seriously Southern over representation. The combat arms are more so.

Again, who will do the fighting if we destroy the American Compact with its citizen soldiers?

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 08:09 AM (i7JE3)

183 They're invading the Upstate as we speak.

Posted by: BignJames at September 10, 2015 08:08 AM (EICks)

Close I-85?

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 08:10 AM (0FSuD)

184 I like Trump and Jindal and Cruz. I would also vote for Walker if he was the nominated candidate. But we have to be prepared for an endless onslaught of abuse aimed at Trump or Cruz by the GOPE and the MSM. The MSM and GOPe are at war with America.

Posted by: Chilling the most at September 10, 2015 08:06 AM (BI43k)

So the eGOPs are progressive Democrats? Tell me something I don't already know.

Posted by: RickZ at September 10, 2015 08:10 AM (HEtQ3)

185 Diamond and Silk find a use for Jeb! (1:35)
https://youtu.be/Z7uig-o_Eoo

Posted by: mindful webworker - oh, those gals! at September 10, 2015 08:11 AM (5t9V6)

186 You're lumping Graham in with Fiorina and Walker? Really?

All of the candidates are problematic. I like Carly a hell of a lot more than Trump.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. (brandisher of ampersands) at September 10, 2015 08:04 AM (P8951)

Nay, nay ...I was being......flippant.

Posted by: BignJames at September 10, 2015 08:11 AM (EICks)

187 I seriously think I don't know the Horde anymore... post a link about chocolate rations .. and nothing

So here is the undisguised link
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Titses-Chocolate-3.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 10, 2015 08:11 AM (9tnUZ)

188 Nip Sip- I second the grown up kids bit. Who knew?

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 08:11 AM (i7JE3)

189 Ham sammich AND a puppy.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2015 07:55 AM (qjfjx)
________________________

Points for persistence.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 10, 2015 08:12 AM (a31sM)

190 Walker probably needs to start considering how his office in the Commerce Department will look.

I'm on to Fiorina, with skeptical hope.

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 08:12 AM (TxJGV)

191 Close I-85?

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 08:10 AM (0FSuD)

And a fence.

Posted by: BignJames at September 10, 2015 08:12 AM (EICks)

192 >>157The problem is, they wouldn't even take a vote on it because "war on wimmenz!!!!"
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt TrumpProd (tm) at September 10, 2015 08:03 AM (Aivl/)

I'm not defending them on this, but i would honestly rather see focus on things that can be done. I'm tired of bills voted on just to make some political points. Let's actually focus on things that can be done.

They could have defunded planned parenthood or something like that.

Posted by: Lea at September 10, 2015 08:12 AM (vmMMi)

193 I think Carly is going to regret being on the same stage with Donald.

Look, she can't escape her disasterous tenure at HP.

You know what the "moderators" at the CNN debate are going to do.

They are going to set up confrontations with Trump and the other candidates and when they pit Trump against Carly, he's going to end her campaign.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news to the Carly fans of which I was one but it is now clear to me and absoluty essential it is for Trump to be the nominee.

He's a paradigm shift from the established order.

And that's what our ossified politics needs right about now.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 10, 2015 08:12 AM (0tvq+)

194 Trump now says America has TOO MANY PROBLEMS to accept migrants from Syria

It's like he wants me to vote for him.

Posted by: t-bird at September 10, 2015 08:12 AM (FcR7P)

195 This map shows the results of a survey asking the world who they see as the biggest threat to world peace

https://goo.gl/K1iDwo

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They like us! They really, really like us!

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at September 10, 2015 08:12 AM (ee9LE)

196 Nip Sip, good luck!!

Freaked, there is no other word that fits someone who thinks sessions' policy is a fantasy or not conservative. Delusional is literally the best descriptor. I'm not interested in points, just truth.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 08:13 AM (S85kT)

197 trump said we had big problems at home on o'reilly too, so the big problems rationale isn't a flip flop

he's changed his mind on how strong the humanitarian motive is, and I think he's right to ask why Gulf states aren't helping

of course the Gulf states have never taken in the "Palestinian" refugees so what do you expect

Europe is fucked over by its globalist elite again

Posted by: Feh at September 10, 2015 08:13 AM (Uk9e2)

198 Again, who will do the fighting if we destroy the American Compact with its citizen soldiers?

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 08:09 AM (i7JE3)

They'll draft people and hand them guns.The people they draft and force to fight on their behalf will fight poorly and flee.So then they'll decide they need political officers that they fear more than death in combat to keep them in line.
The far left is very predictable. Their playbook never really changes.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 08:13 AM (J+mig)

199 Europe is fucked over by its globalist elite again

Posted by: Feh at September 10, 2015 08:13 AM (Uk9e2)

Fuck globalism and the globalists in particular. I'm sick of their shit.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 08:14 AM (J+mig)

200 I can believe this. Some of the things he has said in the past few weeks have been off the rails.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt TrumpProd (tm) at September 10, 2015 08:09 AM (Aivl/)

I had big hopes for Walker....he's beginning to sound like another squish.

Posted by: BignJames at September 10, 2015 08:14 AM (EICks)

201 At least he learns quick.

Posted by: Valiant at September 10, 2015 08:14 AM (2bqlb)

202 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 10, 2015 07:21 AM (bxoVs)

What?
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 07:22 AM (0FSuD)

The GOP doesn't give a shit about abortion, except to raise money. The planned parenthood videos are an opportunity tk make cash to them. They are perfectly happy with funding it.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 10, 2015 08:15 AM (bxoVs)

203 Anna Puma, oh of course the GOPe has it coming.

But is all that the Trumpites around here want is to destroy the GOPe? Is that the only thing?

Suppose Trump wins and the GOPe is vanquished. Then what?

If you want someone who is actually opposed to liberals, has fought the GOPe, and *actually has standard and principles*, then why not support Cruz instead?

Trump has no standards or principles, he is just tapping into raw naked rage. That is what demagogues do and that is dangerous.

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:15 AM (2XMpf)

204 I had big hopes for Walker....he's beginning to sound like another squish.

Posted by: BignJames at September 10, 2015 08:14 AM (EICks)

The consultant effect. We should replace the Republican consultants with cheap H1B workers from India. See how they like it.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 08:16 AM (J+mig)

205 Trump Trumping Trump and Trumping is better than Bush Bushing, Rubio Rubioing, Graham Gaying, Walker Walking, Christie Fatting, Jindal Jindalling, Fiona Fioning and Paul Pauling.

The GOPe blows and Trump in a full diaper, drunk and having sex with Mr. Sulu at a truck stop is better than the whole crop of loser wanna bees from the establishment.

Posted by: F the GOPe at September 10, 2015 08:16 AM (D0NZx)

206 Cato, exactly right. But chemjeff has been suffering with TDS for awhile. So Trump can do nothing right in his eyes.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 08:16 AM (S85kT)

207 Guy playing presidential candidate in bad SNL skit now making fun of Carly's face:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/trump-seriously-20150909

Posted by: Phyllis Balzac at September 10, 2015 08:16 AM (lU0bX)

208 What happen to Carly and Scott?
Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 07:54 AM (0FSuD)

Scott is dead. He can't make up his mind on immigration.

Carly would get more traction except the whole HP legacy. If she hadn't been H1B'ing a chunk of the staff, it might not be so bad. People rightly worry she would just be an outsider CoC candidate.

Posted by: WOPR at September 10, 2015 08:16 AM (nRvEn)

209 NipSip: Grown up kids can be a total pain in the ass.

Yes. This is both true, and so not right.

I could tell you stories just about the past week...!

Posted by: mindful webworker - always dad at September 10, 2015 08:16 AM (5t9V6)

210 I'm not interested in points, just truth.

People who are deluded don't see the truth and you usually can't make them, especially by insulting them.

Of course the truth is very elusive nowadays so I submit that we are all somewhat deluded.

Posted by: freaked at September 10, 2015 08:17 AM (BO/km)

211 I'm probably the last guy to see this but, in case anyone else out there missed it, check out this picture of TFG holding up his nice fresh salmon. It's right at the bottom of the morning links. Gloves? Seriously?

http://bit.ly/1de52S5

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 08:17 AM (TxJGV)

212 I hear you Cato but that just reinforces my point that immigration is damned important.

I have a left-libertarian guy that sometimes works with me. He said he'll consider Trump because of immigration.

I met a couple over the weekend. He's second generation and she's an immigrant. He wants an end to the flood.

I'm not a Trump guy but he is hitting that note quite well.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 08:17 AM (i7JE3)

213 Trump has no standards or principles, he is just tapping into raw naked rage. That is what demagogues do and that is dangerous.

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:15 AM (2XMpf)

Maybe so, maybe not.But everyone else is sounding and acting like the same GOP-e squishes that keep betraying us. So we're left with a whole field that's pretty much interchangeable parts, and one that's obviously not like the others. Pretty clear-cut choice, really.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 08:17 AM (J+mig)

214 They'll draft people and hand them guns.The people they draft and force to fight on their behalf will fight poorly and flee.So then they'll decide they need political officers that they fear more than death in combat to keep them in line.
The far left is very predictable. Their playbook never really changes.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 08:13 AM (J+mig)

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Your right. Don't forget these officers will pretty much just be gays and bull lesbians.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 10, 2015 08:17 AM (LXJ1e)

215 Is it too much to ask for a candidate who is both anti-establishment AND has some principles?

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:17 AM (2XMpf)

216 Maybe some day we could have a 2 party system.

Posted by: BignJames at September 10, 2015 08:17 AM (EICks)

217 Posted by: Kreplach at September 10, 2015 08:12 AM (0tvq+)

We will see. Carly has shown herself to be very cool when she is under attack by hostile members of the MSM. I'm impressed with how she handles herself under fire. She's self-confident without being a loud-mouthed braggart.

That difference is important to some of us.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. (brandisher of ampersands) at September 10, 2015 08:17 AM (P8951)

218 T-bird, good to see you!!!

Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 08:19 AM (S85kT)

219 They could have defunded planned parenthood or something like that.
Posted by: Lea at September 10, 2015 08:12 AM (vmMMi)
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Yep. Just another reason they're a clown show.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt TrumpProd (tm) at September 10, 2015 08:19 AM (Aivl/)

220 The consultant effect. We should replace the Republican consultants with cheap H1B workers from India. See how they like it.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 08:16 AM (J+mig)
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Well, hell, who cares how they'd like it? I'd love it and that's enough for me to up-twinkle this idea.

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 08:19 AM (TxJGV)

221 Chemjeff for president!

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 08:19 AM (i7JE3)

222 215
Is it too much to ask for a candidate who is both anti-establishment AND has some principles?

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:17 AM (2XMpf)

Since we don't have one of those, the obvious answer is yes. Sometimes you just have to make the least bad choice and hope to God that things work.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 08:19 AM (J+mig)

223 one that's obviously not like the others

Yes, and in a dangerous way.

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:20 AM (2XMpf)

224 If you want someone who is actually opposed to liberals, has fought the GOPe, and *actually has standard and principles*, then why not support Cruz instead?

Cruz can never win on his own. He doesn't have Fuck You money. Without Fuck You money, he is beholden to the GOPe.

If he is beholden to the GOPe, he IS the GOPe.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2015 08:20 AM (qjfjx)

225 206
Cato, exactly right. But chemjeff has been suffering with TDS for awhile. So Trump can do nothing right in his eyes.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 08:16 AM (S85kT)

Hey, I think Trump has gotten a lot more hot pussy than I have, and because of that I want to give him the codes to our nuclear weapons.

I guy with that much wood, need a nuke.

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 08:21 AM (0FSuD)

226 Chemjeff, Trump has described himself as for the party of the working man since 1988 and about a wall since 1999.

That's good enough for me.

And he loves America instead of letting her getting raped by globalists and big biz interests.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 08:21 AM (S85kT)

227 221
Chemjeff for president!

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 08:19 AM (i7JE3)
Sure! My first act: mandatory chemistry instruction for everyone

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:21 AM (2XMpf)

228 Trump is basically the embodiment of revenge porn against the establishment.

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Inglorious Basterd!

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at September 10, 2015 08:21 AM (ee9LE)

229
How does SC, the heart of the South

______________________

Really?

Posted by: Alabama at September 10, 2015 08:21 AM (HSmrB)

230 And he loves America instead of letting her getting raped by globalists and big biz interests.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 08:21 AM (S85kT)
He loves HIMSELF. He will say what you want to hear.

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:22 AM (2XMpf)

231 Gonna go feed the pets. Got a dentist appt this morning. Need to get my Driver License renewed. Not sure how to fit the yard work in. I'd rather sit here, drink coffee, and watch Trump Wars on Channel Ace of Spades, but fortunately Real Life has other plans.

AFK

Posted by: mindful webworker - always on at September 10, 2015 08:22 AM (5t9V6)

232 As evidenced by his constant flip-flopping on everything.

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:22 AM (2XMpf)

233 I can see by the comments here that most support open borders and a pathway to citizenship.

I'll give �Yeb! the good news.

Posted by: GOP political consultant at September 10, 2015 08:22 AM (CrC03)

234 >>>> Trump has no standards or principles, he is just tapping into raw naked rage. That is what demagogues do and that is dangerous.

Reading elsewhere, it was remarked that Trump needs to make a couple of major speeches on serious issues to flesh out his candidacy. Depending on content, would that alter anything for you? Say he spoke at length on domestic policy, and then on foreign policy, and he hit a majority of notes you agreed with and his proposals made sense to you.

Posted by: Bigby's Shadow Puppets at September 10, 2015 08:22 AM (3ZtZW)

235 I'm probably the last guy to see this but, in case anyone else out there missed it, check out this picture of TFG holding up his nice fresh salmon. It's right at the bottom of the morning links. Gloves? Seriously?

Pic on Facebook is captioned, "2 out of 3 women don't need gloves"

Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2015 08:22 AM (qjfjx)

236 With all that is before us in the way the GOPe has, as McCarthy put it. Surrendered and play fights on every single issue that means anything.
In the end, conservatives will pull the lever for Bush, call it a day and continue down the path that led us here. t=The surefire result of that is that it gives people another 4-8 years to come back and complain every day. We get another boogy man to play with.

You would think at some point those conservatives would finally realize that there are no options left and simply roll the dice.

Posted by: Drider at September 10, 2015 08:23 AM (6Xbsz)

237 Yes, and in a dangerous way.

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:20 AM (2XMpf)

So the question we have to be asking ourselves is if there's probable cause to believe he poses a greater danger than business as usual.
Given that business as usual is killing this country, and will kill it in short order if it continues...
I don't see how you can possibly argue that carrying on the same failed strategy is a good plan.
We're out of options, and this one sucks slightly less than the others, and has the virtue of not having been tried.
For bonus points, the media hates him.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 08:23 AM (J+mig)

238 Chemistry! Boo!

Anybody but Chemjeff for president!

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 08:23 AM (i7JE3)

239 How does SC, the heart of the South

______________________

Really?

Posted by: Alabama at September 10, 2015 08:21 AM (HSmrB)

Just 'cuz you put it on a license plate don't make it so.

Posted by: BignJames at September 10, 2015 08:23 AM (EICks)

240 http://bit.ly/1EPYXKQ
Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 08:05 AM (TxJGV)

Thanks for the heads up. I don't click DC links since they spiked Mickey Kaus' article for being critical of Fox.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at September 10, 2015 08:24 AM (sJuWI)

241 Sure! My first act: mandatory chemistry instruction for everyone

Just the splodey shit, please.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2015 08:24 AM (qjfjx)

242 Guy playing presidential candidate in bad SNL skit now making fun of Carly's face:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/trump-seriously-20150909

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Well, Rolling Stone is an unimpeachable source.

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at September 10, 2015 08:24 AM (ee9LE)

243 Just 'cuz you put it on a license plate don't make it so.

First capital of the Confederacy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 10, 2015 08:24 AM (rwI+c)

244 I don't suffer from TDS. I'm opposed to raw demagoguery in principle. It could be Trump or anyone else.

I think Jonah Goldberg got it mostly right in his critique of the conservative "movement" vis a vis Trump. If "conservatism" now means "support the shouty guy who changes his mind every 3 minutes on all the important issues but he can be trusted because he says he LOVES AMERICA", then WTF is conservatism anymore?

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:25 AM (2XMpf)

245 203 Anna Puma, oh of course the GOPe has it coming.

But is all that the Trumpites around here want is to destroy the GOPe? Is that the only thing?

Suppose Trump wins and the GOPe is vanquished. Then what?

If you want someone who is actually opposed to liberals, has fought the GOPe, and *actually has standard and principles*, then why not support Cruz instead?

Trump has no standards or principles, he is just tapping into raw naked rage. That is what demagogues do and that is dangerous.
Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:15 AM (2XMpf)

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The problem with Cruz:

1) Cruz has been running for President since high school.

2) Cruz is an Ivy league lawyer.

3) Cruz has zero accomplishments in the Senate, zero.

4) Cruz would be the whipping boy if Trump wasn't in

5) For another, is he actually a natural born citizen?

6) Cruz wants more H1b visas

Having said all that, Cruz is smart enough to make nice-nice with Trump, why can't his supporters?

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 10, 2015 08:25 AM (LXJ1e)

246 Is it too much to ask for a candidate who is both anti-establishment AND has some principles?

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:17 AM (2XMpf)

You forgot to mention 'and electable'. No way Bush could win as everyone is tired of the Bushes. And Cruz, unfortunately for him, scares many people and so would also lose the election. Carson is just too nice for hardball politics. Fiorina, as has been mentioned, has an H1-B visa problem. And as also been mentioned, Walker is relying too much on the eGOP consultant class. Meanwhile, Trump is gaining momentum in the black community, something no other candidate can claim. Pulling in 10-15% of the black vote would ensure a Trump victory.

So just who do you think is conservative and could, you know, actually win?

Posted by: RickZ at September 10, 2015 08:25 AM (HEtQ3)

247 I saw a picture on Twitter yesterday of hundreds (possibly thousands) of "refugees" crowding a train station in Europe , and accompanying the picture was a comment that pointed out that among the "refugees" was not one child or one woman. All of the "refugees" as could be seen in the picture were young, military aged men.

My best guess:

The world is about to get uncomfortably interesting. And our representatives will have done it to us.

But at least Europe will be the first to enjoy the "unintended" consequences of this misplaced humanity.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 10, 2015 08:25 AM (BZAd3)

248 My first act: mandatory chemistry instruction for everyone "

I hated Chemistry.

*Boo. Hiss*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 10, 2015 08:26 AM (XHCpE)

249 not sure T isn't a globalist if the price is right

he thinks of America as a firm to be managed

for now, it's a sovereign firm for him that's spread too thin

but is he really on the side of free market middle class capitalism? my jury's still out

but he's still the front runner to drive a big old wedge into the Uniparty

Posted by: Feh at September 10, 2015 08:26 AM (Uk9e2)

250 I think farming out the jobs of gope consultants tp h1-b visa holders is a PERFECT idea. Hahahahaha. Fuck them all.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 08:26 AM (S85kT)

251 Yes. This is both true, and so not right.

I could tell you stories just about the past week...!

Posted by: mindful webworker - always dad at September 10, 2015 08:16 AM (5t9V6)

Where did parental respect go? My sons say shit to me that my dad would have beat the shit out of me for.

Parents? No respect, it's all about them. Fuck you, I am me, hear me now!

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 08:26 AM (0FSuD)

252 Si se Acti-fresh!

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 10, 2015 08:26 AM (yxw0r)

253 Walker listens to consultants and is floundering.

Trump has no consultants and is over 30% in a crowded field.

There's a lesson to be learned there.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 10, 2015 08:27 AM (oVJmc)

254 I wonder if the MSM reported the Revolt of the Central Command last night? Since I never watch MSM news I don't know how they handled it. All I know is that, were a Republican running things, we would have a Constitutional Crisis at hand, requiring intervention from friendly governments to save us, but- since TFG is the culprit- the news probably didn't even rate a mention.

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 08:27 AM (TxJGV)

255 I think Jonah Goldberg got it mostly right in his critique of the conservative "movement" vis a vis Trump. If "conservatism" now means "support the shouty guy who changes his mind every 3 minutes on all the important issues but he can be trusted because he says he LOVES AMERICA", then WTF is conservatism anymore?
Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:25 AM (2XMpf)

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Based on past voting here is what conservatism means:

Bush I
Dole
Bush II
McCain
Romney

well, NO MORE!

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 10, 2015 08:28 AM (LXJ1e)

256 Just 'cuz you put it on a license plate don't make it so.

Posted by: BignJames at September 10, 2015 08:23 AM (EICks)

Ha ha, that was AL. SC never had the "heart of the South" on their tags.

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 08:28 AM (0FSuD)

257 Trump is the wrench being thrown into the Machine.

Posted by: @votermom at September 10, 2015 08:28 AM (cbfNE)

258 Having said all that, Cruz is smart enough to make nice-nice with Trump, why can't his supporters?
Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 10, 2015 08:25 AM (LXJ1e)

I like Cruz, and he was the only GOP candidate smart enough to welcome Trump into the race. Fact is, Trump is way better at media than Cruz. What am I supposed to do about that? Well, for starters, I choose to be happy that Cruz is working with Trump.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at September 10, 2015 08:28 AM (sJuWI)

259 I went into this season all Walker. But, yeah, he's been saying all kinds of things......and then refusing to clarify what he's said.

Guy just needs to speak his gut and go with it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 10, 2015 08:28 AM (XHCpE)

260
Where did parental respect go?

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 08:28 AM (i7JE3)

261 Chemjeff, I would ask you to read nolte's and conservative treehouse's reply to goldberg. Those are much more persuasive and rational imho.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 08:29 AM (S85kT)

262 162
The Daily Caller has hit rock bottom in click-baitery. They've posted
pictures of Katy Perry for no reason other than she's bursting out of
her dress, grinning all the while. Feminists should be up in arms over
this!

I was so disgusted I spent fifteen minutes contemplating the pictures before posting them for you.

http://bit.ly/1EPYXKQ

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 08:05 AM (TxJGV)

she needs to imprint the boobies in concrete

Posted by: jimmytheclaw at September 10, 2015 08:29 AM (phPur)

263 Trump has no standards or principles, he is just tapping into raw naked rage. That is what demagogues do and that is dangerous.

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:15 AM (2XMpf)

A very fair point. Allow me to share my view - the GOPe has, through its inaction and its collaboration with the enemy, shown itself to be incapable of governing in a conservative manner, or of allowing conservatives (save for a few "show" conservatives, of which I believe Cruz to be one) a place in deciding national policy. They care more for their sinecures than their country.

As far as I'm concerned, the party needs to die. Its members - the Boehners, the McConnells, the McCains - ought to be stripped of their power and money and be forced to end up selling their bone marrow in order to afford food. That's not going to happen, but if Teh Donald is the agent by which they can be tossed out of office, I will take that, no matter what Trump's conduct in office might be.

What I want is petty, venal and self-serving, and I freely admit it: I don't want justice. I want revenge.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 10, 2015 08:29 AM (zF6Iw)

264 but he's still the front runner to drive a big old wedge into the Uniparty

Posted by: Feh at September 10, 2015 08:26 AM (Uk9e2)

And that's the thing that most needs to be done. If we continue being a one-party system, we're finished. The globalists want us destroyed. Our history, our culture, and most of the American people will be wiped off the face of the Earth and the torch of Liberty will go out.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 08:29 AM (J+mig)

265 Supporting the GOP as it currently exists is not conservative, either.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 10, 2015 08:29 AM (oVJmc)

266 You answered your own question. I don't have the heart to do to my sons what you say your father would have done to you. I am physically more imposing than my father but he had me much more convinced that I shouldn't buck him than I do my own boys.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 08:30 AM (i7JE3)

267 then WTF is conservatism anymore?
Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:25 AM (2XMpf)

"Conservartism" will do just fine without Jonah Goldberg.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at September 10, 2015 08:30 AM (sJuWI)

268 Youngest kidlet likes Carson and has finally agreed to register to vote. Attending college as an engineering student. Yes, it is lonely being the only libertarian/republican on campus, but after a year of nagging, she has finally agreed to register!

Son living in Madison is so conflicted he is probably clinically conflicted as far as politics -- support his union buddies or his brain. We'll see how that one goes.

Oldest is total moonbat working for a big non-profit. Next is GOPe and gets her news from iPhone -- not a whole lot of thought going on there.

Me, old fart supporting Cruz. Kids can't understand how I can support a 'religious nut.' Interesting times.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2015 08:30 AM (MIKMs)

269 First capital of the Confederacy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 10, 2015 08:24 AM (rwI+c)

Found out something I didn't know last night watching "The Civil War"......every Confederate state had organized unionist troops....except SC. Just curious.

Posted by: BignJames at September 10, 2015 08:30 AM (EICks)

270 You probably heard we ain't in the prisoner-takin' business; we in the killin' GOPe business. And cousin, business is a-boomin'.

- Donald Trump

Posted by: The Great _______ Snark at September 10, 2015 08:31 AM (ee9LE)

271 ased on past voting here is what conservatism means:

Bush I

Dole

Bush II

McCain

Romney

well, NO MORE!

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 10, 2015 08:28 AM (LXJ1e)

And don't forget that the GOP-e of the day didn't want Reagan either.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 08:31 AM (J+mig)

272 Where did parental respect go? My sons say shit to me that my dad would have beat the shit out of me for.

--

Well, did you at least give them a talking to?
Kids push boundaries.
Parents are supposed to enforce the boundaries.

Posted by: @votermom at September 10, 2015 08:31 AM (cbfNE)

273 260
Where did parental respect go?
Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 08:28 AM (i7JE3)

An anagram for "parental" is "prenatal."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 08:31 AM (St6BJ)

274 This is always good advice.

http://tinyurl.com/bk4zlap

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 08:32 AM (0FSuD)

275 I'll spell it properly next time, I swear.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at September 10, 2015 08:32 AM (sJuWI)

276 prescient, those articles are both along the lines of "if you disagree with Trump then that must mean you support Jeb, who is awful" which is a false conclusion.

There is no inconsistency in being both anti-Trump and anti-Jeb.

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:32 AM (2XMpf)

277 conservatism is nowhere

this is a uniparty state oligarchy

you have been beaten

Trump makes daylight for you

and you complain

Posted by: Feh at September 10, 2015 08:32 AM (Uk9e2)

278 Chemjeff, even if he just loved himself, he is an american, ergo he loves america.

The guy has been consistent since 1988 at least. Please spare us this demagogue talk.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 08:32 AM (S85kT)

279 " The globalists want us destroyed. Our history, our culture, and most of the American people will be wiped off the face of the Earth and the torch of Liberty will go out."

It's sorta as if they want what currently constitutes the United States to become rather a giant reservation for all of the world's refugees.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 10, 2015 08:32 AM (XHCpE)

280 Please explain to me again how Duh Donald is a scarier demagogue than Bronko Bama.....

Donkey has established Presidents are emperors now.....

May as well have an American loving one rather than another globalist one...

Posted by: Sven10077 at September 10, 2015 08:33 AM (BXOyX)

281 Ha ha, that was AL. SC never had the "heart of the South" on their tags.

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 08:28 AM (0FSuD)

Didn't say they did......follow more closely.

Posted by: BignJames at September 10, 2015 08:33 AM (EICks)

282 And what is this gloating about "Trump's gonna destroy Carly in the debate?"

Mitt DESTROYED his opposition in the debates and then was DESTROYED by Candy Crowley and Obama.

That's exactly what's fucking this country up - the desire to see pols we don't like DESTROYED with snappy one-liners rather than having an honest, substantial debate about really serious issues. You know, like a serious, adult country would do. That's because the country is not serious and adult, it's now the mean girls club , and, as such, is rooting for the "gotcha" questions and the snarky quip.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. (brandisher of ampersands) at September 10, 2015 08:33 AM (P8951)

283 Well, did you at least give them a talking to?

Kids push boundaries.

Parents are supposed to enforce the boundaries.

Posted by: @votermom at September 10, 2015 08:31 AM (cbfNE)

You don't give a talking to to a 30 something kid living elsewhere. You email your displeasure and they email back a fcuk you.

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 08:33 AM (0FSuD)

284 Kids can't understand how I can support a 'religious nut.' Interesting times.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2015 08:30 AM (MIKMs)

I suppose sending them a link to a Cruz speech and and ISIS speech is out of bounds? "Religious nut" is pretty damn relative these days.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at September 10, 2015 08:33 AM (sJuWI)

285 What I want is petty, venal and self-serving, and I freely admit it: I don't want justice. I want revenge.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 10, 2015 08:29 AM (zF6Iw)
Okay. So suppose Trump wins and you have your revenge.
Then what?

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:34 AM (2XMpf)

286 So the MSM has Cruz targeted as a religious nut, do they? Weird. I wonder how they got there?

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 08:34 AM (TxJGV)

287 she needs to imprint the boobies in concrete

Posted by: jimmytheclaw at September 10, 2015 08:29 AM (phPur)

For some reason, I can't link the picture here, but in 1956, Jane Russell and Marilyn Monroe put their handprints in cement for the premiere of the movie Gentlemen Prefer Blondes. Monroe joked that, considering their respective assets, what they should have imprinted were Russell's breasts and Monroe's bottom.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 10, 2015 08:34 AM (zF6Iw)

288 I like Cruz, and he was the only GOP candidate smart enough to welcome Trump into the race. Fact is, Trump is way better at media than Cruz. What am I supposed to do about that? Well, for starters, I choose to be happy that Cruz is working with Trump.
Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at September 10, 2015 08:28 AM (sJuWI)

----------------------

Cruz is recognizing the realignment in politics that is occurring and adapting.

Social conservatives (the majority of the GOP) are rejecting the big business GOP (maybe 5% of the GOP, but with a lot of money). In fact, with Trump, are earnestly trying to push them into the Democrat party.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 10, 2015 08:35 AM (LXJ1e)

289 That's because the country is not serious and adult,
it's now the mean girls club , and, as such, is rooting for the
"gotcha" questions and the snarky quip.

Posted by: DonnaV. (brandisher of ampersands) at September 10, 2015 08:33 AM (P8951)

That's a big part of it, and to survive in this environment, we need a media-savvy candidate if we're going to win. That rules out most of the field.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 08:35 AM (J+mig)

290 Donald The Destroyer.

Sounds good.

Posted by: @votermom at September 10, 2015 08:35 AM (cbfNE)

291 Chemjeff, actually you cannot be both. The way the gope set it up, if you don't support Trump you may get jeb! It has been set up this way!!

Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 08:35 AM (S85kT)

292 Like the man said, I don't like Trump, but he is the best available weapon I have to murder the GOP.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at September 10, 2015 08:35 AM (msVAP)

293 Jesus people Trump is not the issue.

He is just the symbol of the frustration of Ordinary non communist Americans.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2015 08:35 AM (gf8BH)

294 The "seeds" of Alzheimer's disease may be transmitted from one person to another during certain medical procedures, scientists have found.

A study into people who died of a separate kind of brain disease after receiving injections of human growth hormone suggests that Alzheimer's may also be a transmissible disease.

The findings have raised questions about the safety of some medical procedures, possibly including blood transfusions and invasive dental treatment, which may involve the transfer of contaminated tissues or surgical equipment.

... OldTimer's infectious ? Who knew ?

Posted by: Faust at September 10, 2015 08:36 AM (e8kgV)

295 Okay. So suppose Trump wins and you have your revenge.
Then what?
Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:34 AM (2XMpf)

OK, so suppose Jeb wins - then what?

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at September 10, 2015 08:36 AM (sJuWI)

296 276 Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:32 AM (2XMpf)

Don't confuse supporting Trump's presence and effect it is having on the process and the system with supporting him as a candidate.

I love the exploding heads he causes. I want Cruz to get the nod.

Let's see how shit plays out for the next 14 months.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 08:37 AM (St6BJ)

297 291
Chemjeff, actually you cannot be both. The way the gope set it up, if
you don't support Trump you may get jeb! It has been set up this way!!

Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 08:35 AM (S85kT)
Umm there are 17 people running, 15 of whom are not named "Trump" or "Jeb".
And even still, there is no inconsistency in rejecting all 17 of the candidates as not conservative enough and standing in favor of *actual conservative principles and values*.

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:37 AM (2XMpf)

298 Monroe joked that, considering their respective assets, what they should have imprinted were Russell's breasts and Monroe's bottom.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 10, 2015 08:34 AM (zF6Iw)
=========================

And I would have been fine with that! Jane Russell shows how far the country has gone nuts; today she'd be ignored as a Christian nut.

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 08:37 AM (TxJGV)

299 Nip- If I got F you from my son I'd tell him to enjoy life and never ask for any help from dear old dad.

*Then I'd have to find out how to log into the banking so dear old mom didn't give it to him anyway.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 08:37 AM (i7JE3)

300 >>> Grown up kids can be a total pain in the ass.

Having my kid very late in life brings occasion for deep sadness on that score, for myself. So.... count your blessings.

Posted by: Bigby's Shadow Puppets at September 10, 2015 08:37 AM (3ZtZW)

301 OK, so suppose Jeb wins - then what?

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at September 10, 2015 08:36 AM (sJuWI)
I don't know, because I don't actually support Jeb winning. See my sig.

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:37 AM (2XMpf)

302 parental respect

love and respect the children but set clear expectations and boundaries

if they transgress, enforce clear consequences without losing your temper, and those consequences must be iron

iron sharpens iron

Posted by: Feh at September 10, 2015 08:38 AM (Uk9e2)

303 213 Trump has no standards or principles, he is just tapping into raw naked rage. That is what demagogues do and that is dangerous.

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:15 AM (2XMpf)

I think (and this is my opinion only) that Trump's lack of principles is probably fairly overstated. People who make deals of the magnitude that Trump makes, have to be principled, have to be trusted, or nobody would make deals with them. Being successful at business (I would think) would also require that.

Trump probably comes within a magnitude or two of matching Obama in terms of ego, but at least he has been able to be successful in deploying that trait successfully as well. Where Obama's hyper-inflated ego is mostly just sickening.

Tapping into rage (again-my opinion) isn't necessarily a bad thing, if, in the long run and by results, extinguishes the rage.

Trump would not be my first choice as nominee, but he might be my second, and if he is the nominee, I will vote for him easily - out of rage.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 10, 2015 08:38 AM (BZAd3)

304 OK, so suppose Jeb wins - then what?>>>

Do you really think he can beat me?

Posted by: Hillary at September 10, 2015 08:38 AM (tf9Ne)

305 293 Jesus people Trump is not the issue.

He is just the symbol of the frustration of Ordinary non communist Americans.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2015 08:35 AM (gf8BH)

THIS. ChemJeff - if you want to understand why Trump is running away with it, it's because the GOP-e created him. Or the conditions that made him possible.

I suggest you vent your frustration and anger in that direction.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 08:38 AM (St6BJ)

306 The "seeds" of Alzheimer's disease may be transmitted from one person to another during certain medical procedures, scientists have found.

A study into people who died of a separate kind of brain disease after receiving injections of human growth hormone suggests that Alzheimer's may also be a transmissible disease.

The findings have raised questions about the safety of some medical procedures, possibly including blood transfusions and invasive dental treatment, which may involve the transfer of contaminated tissues or surgical equipment.

... OldTimer's infectious ? Who knew ?
Posted by: Faust at September 10, 2015 08:36 AM (e8kgV)

Very Very Very small sample size.... If I were a betting man, I'd be this study is FUBAR. So don't get to excited

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2015 08:39 AM (gf8BH)

307 You people who don't like Trump remind me of Charlie Brown (base) kicking the football held by Lucy (GOP).

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at September 10, 2015 08:39 AM (msVAP)

308 You don't give a talking to to a 30 something kid living elsewhere. You email your displeasure and they email back a fcuk you.

--

Ah, too late.
Avoid the email. Too easy to say stuff in it one wouldn't say face to face.
(((Prayers )))

Posted by: @votermom at September 10, 2015 08:39 AM (cbfNE)

309 293
Jesus people Trump is not the issue.

He is just the symbol of the frustration of Ordinary non communist Americans.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2015 08:35 AM (gf8BH)
And see I totally get that. I'm frustrated too. But I want to express my frustration via a candidate who is actually conservative, not Trump.

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:39 AM (2XMpf)

310 If you want someone who is actually opposed to liberals, has fought the GOPe, and *actually has standard and principles*, then why not support Cruz instead?

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:15 AM (2XMpf)

If Trump wasn't in the race, Cruz would still be towards the bottom of the pack. Trump, for all his flaws, is actually able to resonate with people. His immigration plan, you know the one on paper, actually talks about immigration for the benefit of citizens. No other candidate is talking like that. Instead it always sounds like we are obligated to take immigrants or we need immigrants because we are just too lazy.

Also, I think you are missing that Trump and Cruz seem to have some sort of agreement.

Posted by: WOPR at September 10, 2015 08:40 AM (nRvEn)

311 I could never vote for Trump because he is just a huge ego, where as the other politicians running... Sorry.

I could never vote for Trump because he has multiple bankruptcies which shows he is bad with money, whereas the other politicians running... Um, let me start over.

I could never vote for Trump because he says one thing today and something different tomorrow, whereas the other politicians running... Huh. One more time.

I could never vote for Trump because I just don't trust him, whereas the other politicians running...

Trump 2016, He probably won't be as bad as the alternatives.

Posted by: JB1000 at September 10, 2015 08:40 AM (16OL0)

312 What I want is petty, venal and self-serving, and I freely admit it: I don't want justice. I want

heads on pikes.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2015 08:40 AM (qjfjx)

313 306 ... OldTimer's infectious ? Who knew ?
Posted by: Faust at September 10, 2015 08:36 AM (e8kgV)

One group that is immune is the BlackLives that don't matter in Chicago.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 08:41 AM (St6BJ)

314 I've had a change of heart-

and would like to open the borders to a flood of

Mexican Weather Girls:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC2y-6AGhn0

SFW - but perhaps not for your heart.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2015 08:41 AM (KUa85)

315 they said FU to you? at 30?

pull all support and all future support until she apologizes fully

Posted by: Feh at September 10, 2015 08:41 AM (Uk9e2)

316 And see I totally get that. I'm frustrated too. But I want to express my frustration via a candidate who is actually conservative, not Trump.
Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:39 AM (2XMpf)

So do many of us. I am a Cruz supporter....but for the time being I am OK with Trump clearing the field for a Cruz or someone else and at the same time burying Jeb and the other RINOs. It's a long way to even the first Primary....keep your powder dry

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2015 08:41 AM (gf8BH)

317 Read the Conservative Treehouse on the gope setup. Almost everyone else are fake candidates.

Cruz or Walker literally cannot win.

All has been set up for Jeb!

Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 08:41 AM (S85kT)

318 I don't know, because I don't actually support Jeb winning. See my sig.
Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:37 AM (2XMpf)

There is no actual candidate in your sig, until there is one it kinda hard to criticize Trump supporters. People get elected president, not ideas. This ain't parliament.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at September 10, 2015 08:41 AM (sJuWI)

319 Look on the bright side: If Trump wins, the MSM will be all in on fast tracking Constitutional amendments to clarify and restrict the powers of the President.

Posted by: despair at September 10, 2015 08:42 AM (ihXsr)

320 And see I totally get that. I'm frustrated too. But I want to express my frustration via a candidate who is actually conservative, not Trump.

Then find one. Other than the other 16 in the current field. Because they ain't it.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2015 08:42 AM (qjfjx)

321 Is there any person of any degree of conservatism in the race that is going to draw the Party of Nixon (actually, it's far more Left than that these days) back to the realm of sanity (much less ConservativeTown)?

At this point, upending the party has to be the beginning, and that entails blocking their electoral strategy to annoint Jeb Kasich.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 10, 2015 08:42 AM (oVJmc)

322 309 And see I totally get that. I'm frustrated too. But I want to express my frustration via a candidate who is actually conservative, not Trump.
Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:39 AM (2XMpf)

You can have that opportunity as soon as one of the actual conservatives starts pounding him in the polls. You can root for your guy (Cruz?) all you want. But attacking Trump for being Trump and in the lead is kind of futile, no?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 08:42 AM (St6BJ)

323 Cruz doesn't resonate

he's a pre-Kennedy candidate

Posted by: Feh at September 10, 2015 08:42 AM (Uk9e2)

324 SFW - but perhaps not for your heart.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2015 08:41 AM (KUa85)

Christopher Hitchens played a game with other writers where they would take a phrase, and replace the word "heart" with "cock."

Just so you know.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at September 10, 2015 08:43 AM (sJuWI)

325 THIS. ChemJeff - if you want to understand why
Trump is running away with it, it's because the GOP-e created him. Or
the conditions that made him possible.

I suggest you vent your frustration and anger in that direction.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 08:38 AM (St6BJ)
I'm frustrated at BOTH
I'm frustrated that the GOPe cannot find its balls long enough to fight Obama and the left substantively on anything.
I'm also frustrated that so many nominal conservatives are falling for the Trump schtick which has very little to do with conservative principles and values.
I am deeply worried that so many conservatives (like my OWN PARENTS FFS) are SO pissed off and SO angry that they will sell out their principles for an obvious populist demagogue like Trump.
I want a person in there who will fight for something because it is *the right thing to do*, not just because "the left opposes it" or "the establishment opposes it" as some act of revenge.

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:43 AM (2XMpf)

326 "I don't know, because I don't actually support Jeb winning. See my sig."

I think the question was not "if" you vote for Jeb but what "if" he wins. Then what.

And that goes for the other GOPe candidates.

also, the GOPe will break out the Mississippi shut out crew and do whatever it takes to make sure that Trump, Cruz, Carson or Jindal never see the inside of the WH. So your choices are limited in that regard.

So suppose Jeb does win, What then?

Posted by: Drider at September 10, 2015 08:43 AM (6Xbsz)

327 Okay. So suppose Trump wins and you have your revenge.Then what?

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:34 AM (2XMpf)

I don't know. And I'll freely admit that. But I find it, at this distance, hard to believe that Trump could be in any measure worse than Obama. I also find it hard to believe that he would be as much of a collaborationist with the Democrats than the GOPe.

The "ruling class" in DC need a hard dope slap. Otherwise, sterner measures will inevitably ensue.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 10, 2015 08:43 AM (zF6Iw)

328 Well, aren't we the special fucking snowflake!. Let me get on the horn with Reince and whip up an actual conservative candidate for you right now. Bwaaaahahahahaha. Take your vote and go home, Charlie Brown.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at September 10, 2015 08:43 AM (msVAP)

329 Has anyone seen any indication in the reptilian brains of the GOP that they have the slightest glimmer of recognition that Trump's success is because the base is so very, very pissed off at them?

Posted by: V the K at September 10, 2015 08:43 AM (O7MnT)

330 "Prediction: if nothing else changes, I think Cruz will take that VP slot."

Prediction: MSM will suddenly be very concerned about the Natural Born Citizen clause.

Posted by: despair at September 10, 2015 08:44 AM (ihXsr)

331 Nip, suggestion, if the kids do email you, reply with something like "I'm glad you emailed. I'd be happy to discuss this. Call me."

A lot harder to say FU to a parent over the phone or in person.

Posted by: @votermom at September 10, 2015 08:44 AM (cbfNE)

332 324 Christopher Hitchens played a game with other writers where they would take a phrase, and replace the word "heart" with "cock."

Just so you know.
Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at September 10, 2015 08:43 AM (sJuWI)

I do that with song titles. Replace "eyes" with "thighs."

Also, add the words "between the sheets" after a song title. Except the Isley Bros. "Between the Sheets."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 08:44 AM (St6BJ)

333 I really feel for you all not liking Trump changing his mind all the time. I hate those people!!

Posted by: "Multiple Choice" Mitt Romney at September 10, 2015 08:44 AM (4vXIq)

334 OldTimer's infectious ? Who knew ?

Sure it is. You just can't remember who you caught it from.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 10, 2015 08:44 AM (xq1UY)

335 You can't spell RINO without NRO

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at September 10, 2015 08:44 AM (msVAP)

336 chemjeff,

Cruz set up the anti-Iran deal. Who showed up in support of it?

Trump didn't have to go there. He willingly lent his celebrity to the cause.

Sheesh, give the man some credit.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 10, 2015 08:46 AM (LXJ1e)

337 I meant the anti-Iran deal rally.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 10, 2015 08:46 AM (LXJ1e)

338 In the future, Trump will believe anything for fifteen minutes.

Posted by: charris at September 10, 2015 08:46 AM (2hI19)

339 So suppose Jeb does win, What then?

Posted by: Drider at September 10, 2015 08:43 AM (6Xbsz)
If Jeb wins, it will be as if Hillary won, as far as I'm concerned. It won't happen with my help or support, that is for sure.
I predict more of the same, which is crap.

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:46 AM (2XMpf)

340 Having watch 24 minute video of Cruz taking it to Medea Benjamin and the Code Pink folks, I think he resonated very well.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 10, 2015 08:47 AM (OSs/l)

341 329 Has anyone seen any indication in the reptilian brains of the GOP that they have the slightest glimmer of recognition that Trump's success is because the base is so very, very pissed off at them?
Posted by: V the K at September 10, 2015 08:43 AM (O7MnT)

The GOP base is the equivalent to Black America fro the Democrats. Only needed once every 2 years.

At least Black America gets some random walking around money and welfare.

We get ass-raped and not even a meal beforehand.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 08:47 AM (St6BJ)

342 SFW - but perhaps not for your heart.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2015 08:41 AM (KUa85)

Christopher Hitchens played a game with other writers where they would take a phrase, and replace the word "heart" with "cock."

Just so you know.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at September 10, 2015 08:43 AM (sJuWI)

WARNING!

Watching Mexican Weather Girls May Induce

Sprained Cock!

Please Use Caution When Watching Mexican Weather Girls.

Posted by: Public Service Announcement at September 10, 2015 08:47 AM (KUa85)

343
341 - FOR the Democrats, although "fro" was a Freudian slip.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 08:48 AM (St6BJ)

344 Sigh. So it's gonna be all Trump all the time. Folks, I just don't have that many head-weasel jokes. Let's hope Hillary and Slow Joe have some acrimonious debates to make fun of.

Posted by: joncelli, feeling fresh in Spanish at September 10, 2015 08:48 AM (RD7QR)

345 I'm frustrated that the GOPe cannot find its balls long enough to fight Obama and the left substantively on anything.

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:43 AM (2XMpf)

This is precisely why Trump is doing so well. I am sorry, that you are frustrated you can't find the perfect candidate. But it seems that a very viable step one is finding a candidate WITH balls to fight.

1 - Balls.
2 - Do the right thing.

2 without 1 is nothing, and right now we don't even have a lot of guys with 1, let alone very many with 2.

Priorities.

Balls: check. You want to get in this scrap - find another guy that will go toe to toe with Trump. Otherwise, quit yer bitchin'.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at September 10, 2015 08:49 AM (sJuWI)

346 If Jeb wins, it will be as if Hillary won, as far as I'm concerned. It won't happen with my help or support, that is for sure.
I predict more of the same, which is crap.
Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:46 AM (2XMpf)

With all of this email scandal crap, in a Clinton v Bush election I might lean towards Bush.....

Posted by: Draki at September 10, 2015 08:49 AM (0eidE)

347 342 Please Use Caution When Watching Mexican Weather Girls.

Posted by: Public Service Announcement at September 10, 2015 08:47 AM (KUa85)

I agree, senor.

Posted by: Wetback with 17" pinga at September 10, 2015 08:50 AM (St6BJ)

348 V

I sure see no evidence they care

chemjeff, you're outnumbered

Posted by: Feh at September 10, 2015 08:50 AM (Uk9e2)

349 v the k- Frank Luntz "literally shaking" at the anger in his latest polling group.

They get it. They just don't care. They've always despised us.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 08:50 AM (i7JE3)

350 347 342 Please Use Caution When Watching Mexican Weather Girls.

Posted by: Public Service Announcement at September 10, 2015 08:47 AM (KUa85)

Si se pudenda!

Posted by: joncelli, feeling fresh in Spanish at September 10, 2015 08:51 AM (RD7QR)

351 Just got back, as I have to travel all the way to York Pa to find a Volvo dealer who I trust for repairs..

And...they have free WiFi.

Anyhow.
Has there been a single iota of evidence to lead anyone to believe that if we vote GOPe, that during the post election honeymoon night, we don't get treated like the virgin bride?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 10, 2015 08:51 AM (j4Cu5)

352 Juan C. Holmes sock off.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 08:51 AM (St6BJ)

353 No, if it's Hillary vs. Jeb, I will not vote for either.

I am basically back to where I was in 2000, when it was Gore vs. W, and I did not vote for either one then. I voted for the Libertarian.

That was however before the Libertarians went off the deep end.

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:51 AM (2XMpf)

354 There is NO perfect Conservative Candidate out there folks...well except me If I ran...but that aside...Stop ripping everyone a new asshole and try to actually support someone...someone with the fewest pimples on their ass. And sit down, take a deep breath, and have a drink or 2 or 3...ah fuck it finish the bottle

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2015 08:51 AM (gf8BH)

355 350 Si se pudenda!
Posted by: joncelli, feeling fresh in Spanish at September 10, 2015 08:51 AM (RD7QR)

Pudenda de puta.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 08:52 AM (St6BJ)

356 351 Just got back, as I have to travel all the way to York Pa to find a Volvo dealer who I trust for repairs..

And...they have free WiFi.

Anyhow.
Has there been a single iota of evidence to lead anyone to believe that if we vote GOPe, that during the post election honeymoon night, we don't get treated like the virgin bride?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 10, 2015 08:51 AM (j4Cu5)

Good thing you didn't go to the ones near Philly, they're all as crooked as mobsters.

Posted by: joncelli, feeling fresh in Spanish at September 10, 2015 08:52 AM (RD7QR)

357 chemjeff,

Cruz set up the anti-Iran deal rally. Who showed up in support of it?

Trump didn't have to go there. He willingly lent his celebrity to the cause.

Sheesh, give the man some credit.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 10, 2015 08:52 AM (LXJ1e)

358 I am the great gopE hopE!!!!111!!!!111

Posted by: "Multiple Choice" Mitt Romney at September 10, 2015 08:52 AM (4vXIq)

359 Also, add the words "between the sheets" after a song title. Except the Isley Bros. "Between the Sheets."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 08:44 AM (St6BJ)

"Between the Sheets, Between the Sheets, Between the Sheets, Between the Sheets, Between the Sheets (damn you), Between the Sheets, Between the Sheets..."

Posted by: Jimmy Two-Times, stuck in a recursive loop at September 10, 2015 08:52 AM (sJuWI)

360 Count me with Chemjeff- I am confused at the love for Trump on this site. I don't trust him.

I understand less informed people but not the Horde.

My only hope is that, should he get elected, he turns out to be Friedman's "politician we can make do the right thing".

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 08:53 AM (i7JE3)

361 Here's an idea: let's stop worrying about Reince Preibus and his band of merry bureaucrats. They aren't exerting much influence on anything right now, so screw 'em. Trump, like him or hate him, has won a big victory for us in that sense alone. I concede that and thank him for it.

Moving on with the competition now is a lot more fun. No Jeb, really, and even Kasich is trying to stay as low as possible so as not to draw fire. It's refreshing not to be hectored constantly but Rick Wilson et al on "electability" and other such nonsense. Lets see what happens next.

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 08:53 AM (TxJGV)

362 While you all are ripping every Conservative Candidate out there, consider the Alternative:

Hillary Clinton: My Granddaughter Should Call Me Madame President

Spontaneous

Weasel Zippers

Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2015 08:54 AM (gf8BH)

363 "Also, add the words "between the sheets" after a song title. Except the Isley Bros. "Between the Sheets."
"

Another one is to read your fortune cookie, but add "In Bed" to the end of every fortune.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 10, 2015 08:54 AM (j4Cu5)

364 I want a person in there who will fight for something because it is *the right thing to do*, not just because "the left opposes it" or "the establishment opposes it" as some act of revenge.

Why?

What if the right thing and the populist thing just happen to coincide this time?

Posted by: t-bird at September 10, 2015 08:54 AM (FcR7P)

365 So, one day Fox buys National Geographic (NPR: Some of their commentators don't even believe in Climate Change!), and the next day F'n'F is pimping the discovery of The Missing Link. Obviously, Big deGrasse has just been sitting on this evidence for decades.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 10, 2015 08:55 AM (xq1UY)

366 Count me with Chemjeff- I am confused at the love for Trump on this site. I don't trust him.

I understand less informed people but not the Horde.

My only hope is that, should he get elected, he turns out to be Friedman's "politician we can make do the right thing".
Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 08:53 AM (i7JE3)

No confusion: It's not love or trust

It's the big FUCK YOU Trump is giving to both the Dem and RINO elite and leadership.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2015 08:55 AM (gf8BH)

367 fen

he's talented but too starchy for this America

Trump is like Sinatra: people get that he's American with all the ups and downs

Cruz should get a tattoo

Posted by: Feh at September 10, 2015 08:55 AM (Uk9e2)

368 "Donald Trump-At face value"-An Interesting essay by Neo-neo con. Trump needs to rein in his personal comments. He doesn't like Fiorina's face? His face has seen better days too:

http://tinyurl.com/poth2uz

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 10, 2015 08:56 AM (OSs/l)

369 One major reason that Trump is doing so well is that, like Reagan, he has the ability to circumnavigate the media.

They report, breathlessly, everything he says as though it will be the killing blow for him, finally, and are completely flat-footed when his support is unchanged or actually increases.

Trump is also a yuge assault on The Narrative because of that. The media's been very comfortable in controlling The Narrative, so much so that they can't understand that people STILL don't agree with it.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 10, 2015 08:56 AM (oVJmc)

370 "If Jeb wins, it will be as if Hillary won"

Guess what the GOPe's plan B is. A hint is that her name is in the sentence that you typed.

We are so close to being on the same page here with the possible exception that I am a bit more cynical in that none of the more conservative or outsider candidates stand anymore of a prayer of being elected if the GOPe has anything to say about it (and they do) than Trump does. I say that as a person who likes Cruz but I am al in with Trump as the unproven political commodity.
He talks a big game that he won't be able to accomplish half of at best, he has a liberal past in many regards, he does pivot and/or change his stance. Basically he has done what a lot of politicians have done.
That being said he is the front runner. He is handing the GOPe they're lunch.

It's time to roll the dice. IMHO of course.

Posted by: Drider at September 10, 2015 08:56 AM (6Xbsz)

371 323 Cruz doesn't resonate

he's a pre-Kennedy candidate

Posted by: Feh at September 10, 2015 08:42 AM (Uk9e2)
===========================

So far, I think this is right.

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 08:57 AM (TxJGV)

372 Why?

What if the right thing and the populist thing just happen to coincide this time?

Posted by: t-bird at September 10, 2015 08:54 AM (FcR7P)
Because public opinion is fickle, while principles are grounded in a set of deeper truths.

For example, take the Newtown shooting. Right afterwards there was a bunch of emotion-driven polling that showed "90%" of Americans favored "closing the gun show loophole".

Republicans actually stopped that, in one of their rare moments of discovering a backbone.
But what do you think a President Trump would have done?

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:57 AM (2XMpf)

373 I am basically back to where I was in 2000, when it was Gore vs. W, and I did not vote for either one then. I voted for the Libertarian.

That was however before the Libertarians went off the deep end.
Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:51 AM (2XMpf)

Volumes have been spoken.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at September 10, 2015 08:57 AM (sJuWI)

374 >>> if we vote GOPe, that during the post election honeymoon night, we don't get treated like the virgin bride?

Hail to the Prez!
Raise up your glass!
After tonight
you'll just take it up the ***

Posted by: Bigby's Shadow Puppets at September 10, 2015 08:57 AM (3ZtZW)

375 Nevergiveup- I totally get that Trump is the middle finger to the GOP. I am loving that. When that turns into beating on the one guy on the blog with reservations schadenfreude has become advocacy.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 08:58 AM (i7JE3)

376 To be fair, The Guy with The 43-Centimeter Thang (hey, Mexico is metric) is no wetback. He's staying in Mexico. And, according to him, no part of him is wet.

He could pole-vault over the Border Wall if he wanted to. Don't want to.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 10, 2015 08:59 AM (xq1UY)

377 Driver swerves to deliberately hit and kill firefighter collecting for Muscular Dystrophy in Lansing MI.

https://tinyurl.com/q8xxqwl

Wonder if it will turn out to be a #BLM #FYF activist?

Posted by: V the K at September 10, 2015 08:59 AM (O7MnT)

378 I saw a picture on Twitter yesterday of hundreds (possibly thousands) of "refugees" crowding a train station in Europe , and accompanying the picture was a comment that pointed out that among the "refugees" was not one child or one woman. All of the "refugees" as could be seen in the picture were young, military aged men.
__________________

I saw a report yesterday that said 75% of the EU swarm so-called "refugees" are males under the age of 50.

Even the non-males turn out not to really be refugees. Those two Syrian kids who drowned; they were coming from a safe home in Turkey. They hadn't lived in "war-torn" Syria for 3 years. Their dad wanted some dental treatment he couldn't afford, so their Syrian relatives in Canada told them to send the wife and kiddies on one of the smuggler's boats to an EU country (at a reported ticket cost of over $1,000), and pretend to be refugees. Then, once the wife and kids had gotten their EU refugee papers, they could apply for a visa for the dad (because it's cruel to separate families!!!), and then all of them could parlay their EU refugee status into Canadian refugee status. Scheme probably would have worked too, if the mom had known how to swim. Sadly for her and her kids, she didn't.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 10, 2015 09:00 AM (a31sM)

379 Has there been a single iota of evidence to lead anyone to believe that if we vote GOPe, that during the post election honeymoon night, we don't get treated like the virgin bride?

On her first introduction to anal.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2015 09:01 AM (qjfjx)

380 360 Count me with Chemjeff- I am confused at the love for Trump on this site. I don't trust him.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 08:53 AM (i7JE3)

Who do YOU trust?

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at September 10, 2015 09:01 AM (sJuWI)

381 I just don't see where a Trump administration could be worse than a Jeb administration.

Posted by: V the K at September 10, 2015 09:01 AM (O7MnT)

382 314 Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2015 08:41 AM (KUa85)
=======================

wow- some people get extra helpings at the genetic buffet. She's one!

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 09:03 AM (TxJGV)

383 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 10, 2015 09:04 AM (kff5f)

384 I get the reservations that Chem Jeff has about Trump. I have them too.

But this is war, and Trump has been our first viable weapon to strike back against the media and the uniparty.

Desperate times call for Donald.

Posted by: @votermom at September 10, 2015 09:04 AM (cbfNE)

385 360 Count me with Chemjeff- I am confused at the love for Trump on this site. I don't trust him.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 08:53 AM (i7JE3)

This isn't love. It's revenge sex.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 10, 2015 09:04 AM (BZAd3)

386 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 10, 2015 09:04 AM (kff5f)

387 trump hard!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 10, 2015 09:05 AM (0O7c5)

388 My assistant is off today.

Somebody remind me around 2:00 that I've got a haircut at 2:30.

This is what you call "crowd delegation".

Posted by: jwest at September 10, 2015 09:05 AM (Zs4uk)

389 376 To be fair, The Guy with The 43-Centimeter Thang (hey, Mexico is metric) is no wetback. He's staying in Mexico. And, according to him, no part of him is wet.

He could pole-vault over the Border Wall if he wanted to. Don't want to.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 10, 2015 08:59 AM (xq1UY)

Eh, when you have that much schlong getting a stiffie pulls all the blood from your big head to feed the little head, thus leading to a blackout. Highly counterproductive. He should pole vault the border, have a little taken off the top, and return to please the senoritas while conscious.

Posted by: joncelli, feeling fresh in Spanish at September 10, 2015 09:05 AM (RD7QR)

390 Flip flopping away from a bad position is a good flip flop.

Posted by: steevy at September 10, 2015 09:05 AM (sPO3u)

391 " I get the reservations that Chem Jeff has about Trump. I have them too.

But this is war, and Trump has been our first viable weapon to strike back against the media and the uniparty.

Desperate times call for Donald."

Agreed. In the political sense it is hard to trust Trump, impossible to trust the GOPe candidates.

Posted by: Drider at September 10, 2015 09:05 AM (6Xbsz)

392 Count me with Chemjeff- I am confused at the love for Trump on this site. I don't trust him.

From what I can tell there are 2 or maybe 3 of the Horde who have anything that could be called "love for Trump." The rest of us love that his lose cannon-ness is currently pointed at the Ruling Class and the MFM.

To paraphrase: "We cannot spare this man. He fights."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 10, 2015 09:05 AM (kff5f)

393 No confusion: It's not love or trust

It's the big FUCK YOU Trump is giving to both the Dem and RINO elite and leadership.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2015 08:55 AM (gf8BH)

Quite frankly, I think a lot of GOP voters are starting to realize what a bunch of dilettante fucks their co-partyists are. The freak-out from from some of these comments - the emotional reaction to people simply saying "enough, no more of THIS, I want to try THAT." I am starting to see why people don't even consider the GOP because it appears fascist from the outside. I am not taking this abuse anymore. I like how Trump stands his ground, and they cannot provide a reasonable alternative, and refuse to even take up the challenge. To hell with 'em then.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at September 10, 2015 09:06 AM (sJuWI)

394 >>> Republicans actually stopped that, in one of their rare moments of discovering a backbone.

Gun control, like abortion, is a big money issue and the GOPe, like always, responded to its donors. They'd sell this out in a heartbeat if the payola wasn't there.

Posted by: Bigby's Shadow Puppets at September 10, 2015 09:06 AM (3ZtZW)

395 "Flip flopping away from a bad position is a good flip flop."

Now you tell me.

Posted by: "Multiple Choice" Mitt Romney at September 10, 2015 09:06 AM (4vXIq)

396 385 360 Count me with Chemjeff- I am confused at the love for Trump on this site. I don't trust him.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 08:53 AM (i7JE3)

This isn't love. It's revenge sex.
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 10, 2015 09:04 AM (BZAd3)

Coffee through the nose. But it's absolutely true, the reaction to Trump is very much about people who have had it with an abusive relationship.

Posted by: joncelli, feeling fresh in Spanish at September 10, 2015 09:07 AM (RD7QR)

397 Grown up kids can be a total pain in the ass.

Posted by: Nip Sip at September 10, 2015 08:09 AM (0FSuD)

~~~

Little kids, little problems; big kids, big problems.

You're not alone, Nip.

Posted by: IrishEi at September 10, 2015 09:07 AM (E6RIJ)

398 >>>>OK, so suppose Jeb wins - then what?
.
.
.Amnesty gets passed, same as what happened in 86.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 10, 2015 09:07 AM (iONHu)

399 Hey Horde.

Fresh hell.

Etc.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 10, 2015 09:09 AM (LUgeY)

400 For me, the bottom line in this rush to side with Trump is a bit of fatalism, as well.

Who out there who is a politician, can solve the problems that this country faces (limited only to financial and economic)?

My guess is probably nobody. But Trump, in some flight of fantasy, might be the person who could come closer.

And if he can"t? What's going to happen? Is it going to burn? Are the stones going to be scattered? Will the earth on which it stood be salted?

Rhetorical questions.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 10, 2015 09:09 AM (BZAd3)

401 That was however before the Libertarians went off the deep end.

Oh bush-wah. Big L was well over the cliff by the Harry Browne "How you can profit from the coming cholera epidemic" era. They've been a professional sideshow since at least the second Reagan term. 'Tis pity, 'tis true.

On the other hand, for old Libertarians, there is no soul-rending existential angst in having Trump show up in the GOP. Lots of people more-or-less vote Republican as renters (because they're the Lessor of Two Evils, see) and don't have their whole political-philosophy selves wrapped up in the Party's shenaniganz.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 10, 2015 09:09 AM (xq1UY)

402 323 Cruz doesn't resonate

he's a pre-Kennedy candidate

Posted by: Feh at September 10, 2015 08:42 AM (Uk9e2)
===========================

So far, I think this is right.

I said months ago, as good as Cruz is, he has a face for radio, and a voice for print.

Ancestry.com should be able to show a direct linage from Grandpa Munster to Ted.

Passing through Eddy.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 10, 2015 09:09 AM (j4Cu5)

403 Is it going to burn? Are the stones going to be scattered? Will the earth on which it stood be salted?

Umm....

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 10, 2015 09:10 AM (kff5f)

404 Megan McArdle has a good piece up on the government wanting the ability to read all text messages in real time. I can hardly believe I even typed such a ridiculous thing. "Government" reading private communications? Where's my time machine! I want to go back to pre-9/11 days when something like that would get the popular derision it deserves.

http://bv.ms/1XPv6s4

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 09:10 AM (TxJGV)

405 309 293
Jesus people Trump is not the issue.

He is just the symbol of the frustration of Ordinary non communist Americans.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2015 08:35 AM (gf8BH)

And see I totally get that. I'm frustrated too. But I want to express my frustration via a candidate who is actually conservative, not Trump.

Posted by: chemjeff - anti-Trump/anti-Jeb/pro-conservative at September 10, 2015 08:39 AM (2XMpf)

The great thing about Trump is that he's blown up that whole "electability" scam the GOPe runs on it's voters.

If Trump weren't in the race, we'd probably see a repeat of 2012.

Jeb! would be in the lead. Conservatives couldn't get their act together and support one or two guys at the most.

Jeb! like Romney would serially go after whichever conservative raised their head above the pack hammer and tongs-

Some VP hopeful or GOPe flak like Kasich or Christie or Rubio or Graham would be echoing Jeb! and going hard after the conservative who rose above the pack.

It would all be very neat and precise and Jeb! would be the candidate.

He may still be.

But with Trump in the race - Jeb!'s "electability" is severely in doubt. And the GOPe's electability nonsense is revealed as a scam.

The process has slowed down and strung out and allowed the conservative cream to rise and actually be heard.

And shown those conservatives, who though we may like them, are not good campaigners.

With Trump in the race, Cruz, Carly, and Carson have risen based on the merits they bring to the race.

I hope Trump stays in.

If he wins, he wins.

But, at least this time around, the GOPe aren't smothering the conservatives.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2015 09:10 AM (KUa85)

406 If Trump does get elected, I comfort myself in thinking that he will dance with whut brung him - the voters.

His ego is such that he will not forget the insults and attacks from the media and the elites.

Posted by: @votermom at September 10, 2015 09:10 AM (cbfNE)

407 Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2015 08:41 AM (KUa85)

Bless your heart!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 10, 2015 09:10 AM (ftVQq)

408 #GOPhuckYourselves!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 10, 2015 09:11 AM (0O7c5)

409
He evolved...rather quickly!

Posted by: Thurston Howell Trump at September 10, 2015 06:28 AM (PqEKP)

And for oddly enough, he evolved in OUR direction.

Curiouser and curiouser.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 10, 2015 09:11 AM (1QsMy)

410 TL;DR Politician changes mind, is responsive to voting public?

I see some people moaning about flip-flopping, but frankly we should encourage such open-mindedness. Politicians ought to change their minds a lot more often.

Posted by: Blackbutt the Pirate at September 10, 2015 09:12 AM (/kCHc)

411 Umm....
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 10, 2015 09:10 AM (kff5f)

Exactly. And you've been right for a long time, my friend.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 10, 2015 09:12 AM (BZAd3)

412 His ego is such that he will not forget the insults and attacks from the media and the elites.

He can start by suing Colbert for slander after showing him together with a pic of a KKK rally on his show.

I'll get the popcorn ready.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 10, 2015 09:13 AM (LUgeY)

413 I'm OK w/Trump's flip-flop. As long as he doesn't go back to his original statement.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2015 09:13 AM (NOIQH)

414 And what of the 11 million illegal residents? If we get the wall, we don't need to worry so much about deportation because assimilation gets you to the same place over time. And I expect to see some sort of "pay for citizenship" deal that allows illegals to buy their way into the country in a variety of ways, assuming they have been law-abiding residents for years. American citizens would respect that. Fairness, after all, is the main issue.

Oh, and about the racist thing. If Trump says he wants MORE Mexicans, not fewer -- but only the top talent -- how racist does that sound to you?

-- Scott Adams of Dilbert fame is a real fan of Trump.

Posted by: CJ at September 10, 2015 09:14 AM (9KqcB)

415 Cruz really benefitted from the LA poster. He should try to find a way to popularize that sort of view more often, or at least that kind of pop-cultural side of his personality (if he has one). He needs to stop reminding people of a 1960 insurance salesman.

looks aside, though, he's good on all my issues.

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 09:14 AM (TxJGV)

416 408 #GOPhuckYourselves!!!
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 10, 2015 09:11 AM (0O7c5)

I would love to see that trending. I'll help.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 10, 2015 09:14 AM (BZAd3)

417 Revenge sex is a great line. Afterwords we live with the consequences.

Political Hack- At least your name is honest. You asked whom I support but allow no time to answer and then it's "to hell with you". Sweet!

"Put not your faith in the princes of this world." I trust no one. But I agree more with Cruz who seems to contradict himself less than THE DONALD.

I see Trump as our Obama, saying one thing now and hanging it later. Allowing Republican voters to do what the Dem. voters did; believe whatever they want about him. Like Obama, there are clues in his pre-candidacy life. I expect he would be a crony capitalist.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 09:14 AM (i7JE3)

418 I see some people moaning about flip-flopping, but frankly we should encourage such open-mindedness. Politicians ought to change their minds a lot more often.

Posted by: Blackbutt the Pirate at September 10, 2015 09:12 AM (/kCHc)

You always hear about "flip-flopping" and, in a serious candidate (see previous comments on previous days about Trump being a serious contender, but not a serious candidate) they would be very bad. I would expect a Cruz or a Jindal or even a Jeb! to have considered the refugee situation much more carefully before flapping at the gums.

I *don't* expect that of Trump. As I've said before, Trump is more-or-less a weather vane. But, since right now a tide of America First Populism is on the rise (if I may mix metaphors), he's turning in our direction.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 10, 2015 09:14 AM (kff5f)

419 Another hotter than hell day.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 10, 2015 09:15 AM (iQIUe)

420 We get ass-raped and not even a meal beforehand.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 08:47 AM (St6BJ)

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or lube

Posted by: Seems Legit at September 10, 2015 09:16 AM (Xa4vS)

421 assuming they have been law-abiding residents for years

You mean by *not* collecting welfare illegally and not committing identity fraud? Because even the most "law abiding" illegal alien does both of those on a regular basis.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 10, 2015 09:16 AM (kff5f)

422 Scott Adams of Dilbert fame is a real fan of Trump.

Posted by: CJ at September 10, 2015 09:14 AM (9KqcB)
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I think he's just fascinated by the successful manipulation of the body politic, that's all. Like me, he has zero interest in a successful Trump campaign.

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 09:16 AM (TxJGV)

423 Here is a hot news flash for you.

Yes, we have a Christian duty to take in refugees.
No, we can't afford to take them in by the uncounted millions.

Cognitive disconnect? Flip flop?

NO, it's simple arithmetic.

The Christian way to solve the 'refugee' - 'migrant' problem is to go into those countries people are trying to escape, and fix the problem at the source. If necessary, go in with the sword, and convert them to Christianity, and American Justice (the old fashion kind before America was taken over by Obama and his fellow travelers).

Of course, in the here and now, with half the US population on the side of the enemy, we have that problem to fix before we can do anything. A house divided and all of that.

Posted by: Randull Hultguunson at September 10, 2015 09:18 AM (cw2S/)

424 Hey jwest, just a quick reminder. You have a haircut scheduled for 3:30. Don't be late.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 10, 2015 09:18 AM (NeFrd)

425 Trump changed his mind - he is not consistent like a real candidate like Jeb! or Christie!. We can't have somebody who changes his mind. Real candidates never change. Jeb! is for moar immigrants every day - besides Syrians look just like they're from South of the Border so - close enough. How else can ISIS spread its message of peace? Can't answer that one - can you Mr. Smartypants?

Posted by: Nip of the Sip GOPe mole at September 10, 2015 09:18 AM (d+uyP)

426 419 Another hotter than hell day.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 10, 2015 09:15 AM (iQIUe)

It finally rained and cooled off in the mid-Atlantic states. And tomorrow the humidity will get down below the point where it feels like a tepid steam bath, much to the relief of my long-suffering dogs.

Posted by: joncelli, feeling fresh in Spanish at September 10, 2015 09:18 AM (RD7QR)

427
We get ass-raped and not even a meal beforehand.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 08:47 AM (St6BJ)

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or lube

Posted by: Seems Legit at September 10, 2015 09:16 AM (Xa4vS)

Or a reach-around.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 10, 2015 09:18 AM (1QsMy)

428 Trump is just NOT the type of electable statesman we need in these troubled times.

It's Republican leaders like McConnell, Boehner, Corker, Cantor, McCarthy, McCain, Dole, Hatch, Collins, and Cochran (to name but a few) that have made this country what it is today!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 10, 2015 09:19 AM (ftVQq)

429 assimilation gets you to the same place

Works with small numbers over time. Try to assimilate to much and you get assimilated. California's voting record is a clue.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 09:19 AM (i7JE3)

430 I think he's just fascinated by the successful manipulation of the body politic, that's all. Like me, he has zero interest in a successful Trump campaign.

I dunno. He likes to pass himself off as a pro-capitalism centrist (he quite frequently says, "I run Dilbert like a business."). Trump *does* have a lot of cross-over appeal.

And the more the MFM and Ruling Class are forced to take him seriously, the more the LIVs will *choose* to take him seriously.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 10, 2015 09:20 AM (kff5f)

431
Historically, the Republican Party has performed slightly below par, but we have corrected most of the voter induced disparities and will go to victory in the '16 election.

Almost President Dole
Almost President McCain
Almost President Romney
**President Jeb Bush

**Three Bushes is a charm!

Posted by: Rinse Penis at September 10, 2015 09:20 AM (OiFtZ)

432 The establishment GOP's mantra can be summed up by a line from Paradise Lost: "Better to reign in hell, than serve in heav'n." They would rather run a minority party than be backbenchers in a majority party. Any candidate who threatens their control of the party must either be co-opted or destroyed. They did it to Goldwater, they did it to Reagan, and they've been going at Tea Party candidates furiously over the last few years. They would rather have Hillary win than Trump, Cruz, Carson, or anyone not on the approved list.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 10, 2015 09:20 AM (JxMoP)

433
Jeb! would be in the lead. Conservatives couldn't get their act together and support one or two guys at the most.

Truth is, that's the table that the GOP set at the outset. That WAS their plan.

Trump's flipped over the table. That's why he's a good thing.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 10, 2015 09:20 AM (oVJmc)

434 My mother and I bickered for over 40 years about GOP v constitutional principles. My first vote was for Reagan in primary Illinois in 1976 (?). Mom had a fit because I was a 'splitter' and the downfall of civilization as we knew it. She would also send me GOPe stuff with incomprehensible surveys skewed to religious stuff -- and she was no more religious than I.

So here we are, 40 years later, and the same arguments are going on.

Agnostics for MSM-titled 'religious nut' Cruz!

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2015 09:20 AM (MIKMs)

435 Yes, we have a Christian duty to take in refugees.

I'd agree, but these aren't "refugees," they're muzzie invaders.

Our first Christian duty is to the Truth.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 10, 2015 09:21 AM (LUgeY)

436 >>I think he's just fascinated by the successful manipulation of the body politic, that's all. Like me, he has zero interest in a successful Trump campaign.

Yeah, a lot of people are. Posted this yesterday, but Owen Wilson is all "Trump is like Charlie Sheen" - heh heh heh. But he's got them listening to a GOP candidate, so there's that...

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2015 09:21 AM (NOIQH)

437 417 Revenge sex is a great line. Afterwords we live with the consequences.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 09:14 AM (i7JE3)

As if there have been no consequences to the way we have been voting for the last couple of decades.

We've actively supported, by our own actions and gullibility, the notion that Gruber so clearly announced, that voters are idiots.

Maybe we should try something different. Maybe we should stop just blindly believing what the established parties tell us. Maybe we should believe what we know to be the issues instead of what we are told to believe the issues to be each election cycle.

Just a couple of thoughts.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 10, 2015 09:21 AM (BZAd3)

438 He could very well be a cynical self-aggrandizer and still be the best man for the job. It all depends on what he delivers when and if he gets to the Oval Office.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 06:43 AM (J+mig)

A very conservative friend and I were talking about Trump the other day and pretty much said the same thing.

Trump isn't my man for a variety of reasons. But if it comes down to Trump versus any Democrat, I'll happily vote for Trump.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at September 10, 2015 09:21 AM (dPpmC)

439 I think he's just fascinated by the successful manipulation of the body politic, that's all. Like me, he has zero interest in a successful Trump campaign.

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 09:16 AM (TxJGV)

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Definitely the former, not sure about the latter.

Posted by: CJ at September 10, 2015 09:22 AM (9KqcB)

440 Taking in so many migrants to the point of changing Germany, did Merkel ask the German people if they were okay with this? They arent going to return home again unless to learn how to make bombs. You're stuck with them and the terrorism. If they did the least effort to assimilate, I'd say great but they dont.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 10, 2015 09:23 AM (iQIUe)

441
Posted by: Randull Hultguunson at September 10, 2015 09:18 AM (cw2S/)

Except, as the leftists keep telling us, religious motivations have no business in government, ESPECIALLY Christian motivations. Fuckers treat religion like a salad bar, picking and choosing what they want and leaving the rest under the sneeze barrier.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 10, 2015 09:23 AM (1QsMy)

442 Gotta love a blog where commenters weave "Paradise Lost" quotes into their posts.

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 09:23 AM (TxJGV)

443 Revenge sex is a great line. Afterwords we live with the consequences.

As opposed to the political VD we get today by voting for "approved" Republicans?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 10, 2015 09:23 AM (kff5f)

444 assimilation gets you to the same placeWorks with small numbers over time. Try to assimilate to much and you get assimilated. California's voting record is a clue.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 09:19 AM (i7JE3)

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Agreed. But that number won't get any smaller without a wall-type approach.

Posted by: CJ at September 10, 2015 09:23 AM (9KqcB)

445 Better a populist than a globalist. Just sayin.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 10, 2015 09:24 AM (HalrA)

446 "He evolved...rather quickly!"

You know it strikes me he simply might not know, the vast majority of people don't.

Taking in a few refugees sounds like a reasonable position... But then you find out that the administration has been flooding the nation with scum from all four corners of the globe for the last 6 years.. and it isn't so reasonable.

A friend on mine in Maine twigged me to this as the have a large population of Somali's that are making a PITA of themselves. How the hell did Somali's get in Maine?!?

Bill Clinton.

Free shit army.

Soon just closing the borders will not be enough. I see things getting ugly in a hurry.

Posted by: gdonovan at September 10, 2015 09:25 AM (2Ee1I)

447 We get ass-raped and not even a meal beforehand. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2015 08:47 AM (St6BJ) --
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or lube

Posted by: Seems Legit at September 10, 2015 09:16 AM (Xa4vS)

Oh, cry me a river.

Posted by: The Chicken at September 10, 2015 09:25 AM (zF6Iw)

448 Our first Christian duty is to the Truth.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 10, 2015 09:21 AM (LUgeY)
amen

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 10, 2015 09:25 AM (0O7c5)

449
Gotta love a blog where commenters weave "Paradise Lost" quotes into their posts.

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 09:23 AM (TxJGV)

Yes, but Milton's jokes aren't very funny.

Posted by: Professor Dave Jennings at September 10, 2015 09:25 AM (1QsMy)

450 Taking in so many migrants to the point of changing Germany, did Merkel ask the German people if they were okay with this?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 10, 2015 09:23 AM (iQIUe)

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At least Merkel said it up front: "We're going to change Germany." Which is more than our politicians did. They only acknowledge it after the fact.

Posted by: CJ at September 10, 2015 09:27 AM (9KqcB)

451 I should probably sit down and read Paradise Lost at some point.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 10, 2015 09:27 AM (kff5f)

452 Oh, cry me a river.
Posted by: The Chicken at September 10, 2015 09:25 AM (zF6Iw)

They told me you were dead.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 10, 2015 09:27 AM (BZAd3)

453 Cj- I am a wall plus kinda guy. I want employers jailed. Don't do a damn thing about deportation, just start rounding up stock brokers' wives for hiring illegal nannies.

Bye bye, illegals.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 09:27 AM (i7JE3)

454 Fellow morans,

Put politics aside. Assume Trump is the worst of NRO's fears. A Trump win means we have Melania as our first lady.

Drops mic.

Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 09:28 AM (S85kT)

455 Agreed. But that number won't get any smaller without a wall-type approach.

It should be clearly understood that if you come here, you're expected to become an American. What's largely unspoken in all this is our right to live in peace with like-minded people.

The anti-Christ George Soros and his Opne Borders NWO sycophants want the world to be Balkanized because nationalism blunts his power. Everything he wants is in direct opposition to the American ideals of freedom and individuality.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 10, 2015 09:29 AM (LUgeY)

456 And see I totally get that. I'm frustrated too. But I want to express my frustration via a candidate who is actually conservative, not Trump.

Have you seen what the GOP does to "actually conservative" candidates? Candidates like Matt Bevin? Chris McDaniel? Sharron Angle? Milton Wolfe?

Whoever said Donald Trump is revenge sex nailed it.

Posted by: V the K at September 10, 2015 09:29 AM (O7MnT)

457 442 Gotta love a blog where commenters weave "Paradise Lost" quotes into their posts.
Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 09:23 AM (TxJGV)

That reminds me, we haven't had a haiku thread in a while.

Weasel-wearing guy
With billions stomps the party.
Priebus weeps alone.

Posted by: joncelli, feeling fresh in Spanish at September 10, 2015 09:29 AM (RD7QR)

458 Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 09:27 AM (i7JE3)

And start actually prosecuting the ones (again- practically all of them) who commit identity fraud. Don't even have to jail them- just deport them. You can even play each and every one as "a criminal alien" to counteract the inevitable sympathy play.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 10, 2015 09:29 AM (kff5f)

459 Hell, even Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio had to fight the Party Establishment to get elected to office.

Posted by: V the K at September 10, 2015 09:29 AM (O7MnT)

460 Re-Somalis

Bill Clinton and the Catholic Church. At least in some cases. If we had a press, stories about the Somalis we took in would give us pause about the latest round of "compassion".

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 09:30 AM (i7JE3)

461 Yes, but Milton's jokes aren't very funny.

Posted by: Professor Dave Jennings at September 10, 2015 09:25 AM (1QsMy)

Really? I think Uncle Miltie is pretty darn funny.

Oh, wait. . .

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 10, 2015 09:30 AM (zF6Iw)

462 Whoever said Donald Trump is revenge sex nailed it.

ISWYDT

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 10, 2015 09:30 AM (kff5f)

463 Deliver the refugees to Guantanamo and start pushing them over the fence to Fidel.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at September 10, 2015 09:31 AM (oVJmc)

464 454 Fellow morans,

Put politics aside. Assume Trump is the worst of NRO's fears. A Trump win means we have Melania as our first lady.

Drops mic.
Posted by: prescient11 at September 10, 2015 09:28 AM (S85kT)

Good point, but only if she wears increasingly revealing dresses. If she's nude by the end of Trump's first term he is a shoo-in for reelection.

Posted by: joncelli, feeling fresh in Spanish at September 10, 2015 09:31 AM (RD7QR)

465 Politics as a secksual metaphor.

I luv this place...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 10, 2015 09:31 AM (LUgeY)

466 Cj- I am a wall plus kinda guy. I want employers jailed. Don't do a damn thing about deportation, just start rounding up stock brokers' wives for hiring illegal nannies. Bye bye, illegals.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 09:27 AM (i7JE3)

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I just read an article where the Obama Admin fined a company for trying toverify the immigration status of its workers. $200,000 Requiring them to prove citizenship was discrimination.

Posted by: CJ at September 10, 2015 09:31 AM (9KqcB)

467 >>>>Cj- I am a wall plus kinda guy. I want employers jailed. Don't do a damn thing about deportation, just start rounding up stock brokers' wives for hiring illegal nannies.

I have been begging for just this sort of thing. Forget about the wall, stick a fine not on business but on the business owners/CEOs. $10,000 and 30 days in federal prison per illegal knowingly employed. You don't even need a wall at that point because once you hold the executives personally responsible you will see illegal labor dry up. I also think that any candidate who proposed such an idea would immediately get a ton of attention and at least a five point bounce in the polls.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 10, 2015 09:32 AM (JxMoP)

468 Scott Adams says: "Like many of you, I have been entertained by the unstoppable clown car that is Donald Trump".

Now, Adams does think Trump will win the election but you probably (to the extant you care what Adams thinks, and some of you do for some reason) should understand his prediction is based on Adams' low estimation of the state of the electorate, and not Trump's own candidacy.

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 09:32 AM (TxJGV)

469 So Satan, the Angel Raphael and Adam walk into a casino. Satan says, "Anybody for a game of craps? Baby needs a new pair of sandals!" Adam says, "No, I lost my pair of dice!"

Posted by: Seamus Milton at September 10, 2015 09:32 AM (NeFrd)

470 Hell, even Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio had to fight the Party Establishment to get elected to office.

Posted by: V the K at September 10, 2015 09:29 AM (O7MnT)

Which is why I called Cruz a "show conservative" above. It has nothing to do with his record; it's that he's a pet of the GOPe, allowed to - in their view - throw his little tantrums and make his silly little speeches about freedom in order to let the rubes think the GOP is actually a conservative party. But when it comes to actual power and control over policy, Cruz is left out in the cold.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 10, 2015 09:33 AM (zF6Iw)

471 Yes, but Milton's jokes aren't very funny.

Posted by: Professor Dave Jennings at September 10, 2015 09:25 AM (1QsMy)
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No, they aren't. Appropriate to the state of things, yes, but not funny

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 09:33 AM (TxJGV)

472 Yes, but Milton's jokes aren't very funny.

And his wife thought he was a bore, too.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 10, 2015 09:33 AM (JtwS4)

473 My problem with Trump is what do we do 2 weeks before the election when he tells Gwen Ifill to make him a sammich and one of his ex wives releases a sex tape involving the Trumpster and a twelve year old Vietnamese girl. Meet Presnint Biden.

Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at September 10, 2015 09:34 AM (k8tEg)

474 Cruz really benefitted from the LA poster. He should try to find a way to popularize that sort of view more often, or at least that kind of pop-cultural side of his personality (if he has one). He needs to stop reminding people of a 1960 insurance salesman.

looks aside, though, he's good on all my issues.

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 09:14 AM (TxJGV)

Well, truth be told politics is in part showbiz.

And there isn't a Republican candidate running (and this goes triple for the Democrats. Maybe quadruple.)
who couldn't have benefited from starting-

a tough regimen of running and weight-lifting a year or two before jumping into the ring-

it definitely helps with projecting that whole alpha-male image that people unconsciously gravitate toward.

I think Jindal may have tried that. He looks a little heftier. And wears his suits better. Maybe he should've started earlier.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2015 09:34 AM (KUa85)

475 At least Merkel said it up front: "We're going to change Germany." Which is more than our politicians did. They only acknowledge it after the fact.
Posted by: CJ at September 10, 2015 09:27 AM (9KqcB)
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Not even then.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 10, 2015 09:35 AM (a31sM)

476 $10,000 and 30 days in federal prison per illegal knowingly employed.

Yup. Must have jail time or they will just roll the fines in as cost.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 09:35 AM (i7JE3)

477 I have been begging for just this sort of thing. Forget about the wall, stick a fine not on business but on the business owners/CEOs. $10,000 and 30 days in federal prison per illegal knowingly employed. You don't even need a wall at that point because once you hold the executives personally responsible you will see illegal labor dry up

Take a couple of businesses via asset forfiture.
If they can take a john's car for hiring a hooker, they can take a business.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2015 09:35 AM (qjfjx)

478 Nood art.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 10, 2015 09:35 AM (LUgeY)

479 I'd add that the fines be paid into a fund which gave out cash rewards for turning companies in.

Problem solved.

But it's not rocket science. The Pols know this. They just use the "oh no, 11 million people is the Gordian Knot" bit for convenience.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 10, 2015 09:37 AM (i7JE3)

480 Trump will win the election [snip] This prediction is based on Adams' low estimation of the state of the electorate, and not Trump's own candidacy.

An assessment of the electorate that was roundly validated in 2012 when Obama was re-elected because a sizable number of voters believed he was going to outlaw tampons and once gave his dog a gay haircut.

Idiocracy we are there.

Posted by: V the K at September 10, 2015 09:38 AM (O7MnT)

481 394 >>> Republicans actually stopped that, in one of their rare moments of discovering a backbone.

Gun control, like abortion, is a big money issue and the GOPe, like always, responded to its donors. They'd sell this out in a heartbeat if the payola wasn't there.
Posted by: Bigby's Shadow Puppets at September 10, 2015 09:06 AM (3ZtZW)

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Yes, and don't forget that Harry Reid is in the pocket of the NRA. HE stopped it, not the GOP.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 10, 2015 09:38 AM (LXJ1e)

482 "It should be clearly understood that if you come here, you're expected to become an American. What's largely unspoken in all this is our right to live in peace with like-minded people."

Agreed, but how can that be clearly understood when it's not clearly communicated? The biggest change was not in the type of immigrant (Hispanic rather than European) but in our own expectations of them.

Add to that the fact that millions of Mexicans are settling in territory that they believe is rightfully theirs, and...there's trouble.

That's part of the Left's immigration zeal. It's not just that their changing the electorate in their favor, they really believe that the only way for America to atone for it's racist birth is to surrender it to people of color.

Posted by: CJ at September 10, 2015 09:38 AM (9KqcB)

483 >>>Yup. Must have jail time or they will just roll the fines in as cost.

I was thinking of a fine not on the business but on the business owners personally. For example, the BeefCo meat packing plant doesn't pay the $50,000 fine, Joe the owner of BeefCo pays the $50,000 fine out of his own pocket and as a bonus spends 150 days in a federal PMITA prison.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 10, 2015 09:39 AM (JxMoP)

484 Yup. Must have jail time or they will just roll the fines in as cost.

A second violation should result in the revocation of their business license.

Since their main motivation is money, take that away from them. Personally, I'd like to see Disney disemboweled for hiring foreigners.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 10, 2015 09:39 AM (LUgeY)

485 My problem with Trump is what do we do 2 weeks before the election when he tells Gwen Ifill to make him a sammich and one of his ex wives releases a sex tape involving the Trumpster and a twelve year old Vietnamese girl. Meet Presnint Biden.

If they had that, it would have been used years ago.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2015 09:39 AM (qjfjx)

486 Correction, should have written, "a sizable number of voters believed his opponent was going to outlaw tampons..."

Posted by: V the K at September 10, 2015 09:39 AM (O7MnT)

487 5

At least Trump is thinking, "shit, I better not piss off my supporters."

The GOP-e? Not so much.

Advantage, Trump.
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1. Trump gives bland non-positional statement on Syrian immigration approved by GOPe advisers.
2. Voters say they would rather eat sauerkraut for a week than accept Syrian immigration.
3. Trump says "Oh yeah I am trying to win the election. Not to mention being down on Latinos and up on Muzzies doesn't sound right."
4. Trump says "too many problems" on AM news. GOPe and Leftist heads explode, and he gains more support.

Posted by: exdem13 at September 10, 2015 09:39 AM (ry4ab)

488 I think I read that refugees in Germany were throwing rocks at the Germans because their Wi-Fi access was spotty. W.T.F.

Posted by: Gem at September 10, 2015 09:39 AM (c+gwp)

489 *they're changing the electorate*

Posted by: CJ at September 10, 2015 09:39 AM (9KqcB)

490 Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at September 10, 2015 09:34 AM (k8tEg)

First off- that could happen to any of the Candidates, because the truth of the accusations won't matter, only "the seriousness of the charge."

Second, I fail to see how even Joey Choo-Choo is worse than a vast swath of the Republican field. Without Trump, as others have said, Jeb! would simply follow the strategy* created by his brother's campaign in 2000, improved upon by McCain in 2008, and perfected by Mitt in 2012 to destroy any "lesser" opposition and secure the nomination.

With Trump in the race, that strategy fails. It relies on the other candidates' war-chests being too small, and people flocking to "the strong horse." Trump's war-chest is *not* too small AND he currently *is* "the strong horse."

* Note, this is not a critique of the strategy itself; it is a quite sound strategy. I merely wish it had been used to secure the nomination for actually conservative candidates.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at September 10, 2015 09:39 AM (kff5f)

491 Trump supporters have a few weeks to come to their senses. After that, you all are on your own. Left, right -- all the same. Go fuck yourselves.

Posted by: Post-American at September 10, 2015 09:39 AM (nFICN)

492 I and my fellow Nazgul have ruled by a vote of five to four that it is unconstitutional for Trump to be elected president, because... something something constitution... hey guys, what was that excuse we made up again?

-Oh right. The equal protection clause says you can't discriminate based on sex. Americans have been discriminating in favor of male presidents for two hundred years now. You are constitutionally required by the fourteenth amendment to elect a female President this time. And you've actually been required to do so since 1868, you just didn't know it. Now, practice saying "Madame President" for Hillary!

Posted by: Justice Anthony Kennedy at September 10, 2015 09:41 AM (/kCHc)

493
SABO is great!

http://unsavoryagents.com/

He may have been behind the mattress girl posters that were so quickly removed. However, I see no reference to them on his site. No matter. Looks like mattress girl has gone on with her life.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 10, 2015 09:41 AM (iQIUe)

494 450
At least Merkel said it up front: "We're going to change Germany." Which is more than our politicians did. They only acknowledge it after the fact.

Posted by: CJ at September 10, 2015 09:27 AM (9KqcB)

Are you forgetting "We're five days from the fundamental transformation of America"?

Posted by: rickl at September 10, 2015 09:41 AM (zoehZ)

495 Not even then.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 10, 2015 09:35 AM (a31sM)

They acknowledge "America is changing" when they lecture the GOP to start talking like Democrats or be extinct.

Posted by: CJ at September 10, 2015 09:42 AM (9KqcB)

496 16

That's
exactly how I see it, JJ. And I'd much rather have a politician who
cares what his constituents think than one who thinks he's so much
better than the thoughtless little proles that he has to make every
decision for them, for their own good.
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Good point, Cato. Both major parties have gotten into telling their voters what the voters ought to want instead of saying "I understand your problems, and I will get you what you want." Trump so far acts like he is interested in what his supporters want and say about things.

Posted by: exdem13 at September 10, 2015 09:44 AM (ry4ab)

497 @490 You raise a good point about thwarting the Jeb & Co strategy, which is essentially like a no limit poker game crushing the guys without a bankroll.

But I dispute the major premise. IMO Trump is waaaay more likely to do something so bizarre, so "unacceptable" (particularly to the wimmins) as to almsot assure a loss. Hard to quantify of course, but its a combination of his lacking an external governor and (again, my subjective opinion) lacking an internal moral grounding that keeps most of us from engaging in the types of behavior that, if made public at an inopportune time, can result one being run out of metaphorical town.

Lately I get the feeling that Trump and Cruz have cut a side deal: whichever guy wins pulls the other in for the 2 slot. I have been a Cruz guy for a long time but on hearing more from on the campaign trail I just don't know if he will be as effective a candidate as I'd hoped --comes across as too much of an appellate lawyer as opposed to a natural sales guy.

I also wouldn't worry too much about Jeb. I think his support is paper thin and won't survive the genuine hatred of the base.

Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at September 10, 2015 09:47 AM (k8tEg)

498 I just read an article where the Obama Admin fined a company for trying to verify the immigration status of its workers. $200,000 Requiring them to prove citizenship was discrimination.
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The Obama administration sued AZ for requiring voters to verify U.S. citizenship before voting in AZ. Because a state with hundreds of thousands of illegal alien residents certainly doesn't have any reason to worry about those illegal aliens illegally voting in its elections, right? I mean, that would be . . . illegal . . . and we all know illegal aliens are nothing if not scrupulous about obeying U.S. laws!

There are all sorts of federal laws that forbid you from asking somebody's citizenship status. There are also all sorts of laws that prevent hospitals, welfare offices, etc., from asking or reporting on the number of non-citizens getting taxpayer-funded treatments, benefits, etc.

The entire point of these laws is to allow the government to hide from the American people the facts about how many foreigners are here, how many American jobs they are taking, how much of our medical resources they're using, how many billions of American tax dollars they are costing us every year, etc.

How can we possibly craft immigration policies that make sense if our own government is doing everything in its power to keep us from knowing the facts about how many "immigrants" are coming, and how many are employed, committing crimes, chronically ill, on welfare, etc. The government demands that we spend hundreds of billions of our tax dollars every year to provide all sorts of benefits for immigrants -- legal and illegal -- and then they deny us the ability to obtain the facts about how much, when, where, and why those tax dollars are being spent. And if we try to find out, we're sued and called raaaaacists. It's maddening.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 10, 2015 09:48 AM (a31sM)

499 1. Trump gives bland non-positional statement on Syrian immigration approved by GOPe advisers.
2. Voters say they would rather eat sauerkraut for a week than accept Syrian immigration.
3.
Trump says "Oh yeah I am trying to win the election. Not to mention
being down on Latinos and up on Muzzies doesn't sound right."
4. Trump says "too many problems" on AM news. GOPe and Leftist heads explode, and he gains more support.

Posted by: exdem13 at September 10, 2015 09:39 AM (ry4ab)
The GOPe is such an effective boogey man for some people now that they are apparently making Trump say things he does not believe.
It is more likely that Trump doesn't know what he believes about things because he's never thought about them, and his first spoken instinct on most things is usually wrong.

Posted by: CausticConservative at September 10, 2015 09:48 AM (5q6rm)

500 Nip Sip, my stepson is the same way. I kicked off our place because I was tired of him treating his dad so disrespectfully. And he'll come up with these ideas that are just delusional.

Told me I should chill, because he couldn't bother to pay $35 for the electric bill. Said it wasn't a big deal. But if I can't trust him to do the little things, why would I trust him to take care of the big stuff?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 10, 2015 09:48 AM (Lqy/e)

501 Now, Adams does think Trump will win the election but you probably (to the extant you care what Adams thinks, and some of you do for some reason) should understand his prediction is based on Adams' low estimation of the state of the electorate, and not Trump's own candidacy.

Posted by: MTF at September 10, 2015 09:32 AM (TxJGV)

I care about what Adams thinks for the same reason any of us should: he's outside the conservative echo chamber that we find so comforting. He's a part of the pop culture landscape that the Right is so clueless about, but which plays an increasingly large role in determining the fate of the country.

Yes, Adams is fascinated by how Trump is selling himself, more than anything. And his opinion of the electorate is exactly what most of ours has been in recent years. His blog is a good read, along with his pieces in the Wall Street Journal. He's got a libertarian/capitalist bent that's not common.

Posted by: CJ at September 10, 2015 09:49 AM (9KqcB)

502 Is "Black America fro" a shot at Trump's hair, JJ???

Posted by: andycanuck at September 10, 2015 09:50 AM (LYqIl)

503 I'll say it again. WHO showed up at Cruz's anti-Iran deal rally?

At the very least that should move Trump up to second place for some people.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 10, 2015 09:50 AM (LXJ1e)

504 494
450

At least Merkel said it up front: "We're going to change Germany."
Which is more than our politicians did. They only acknowledge it after
the fact.

Posted by: CJ at September 10, 2015 09:27 AM (9KqcB)

Are you forgetting "We're five days from the fundamental transformation of America"?
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Now, that was a campaign promise Obummer delivered on, God help us all.

Posted by: exdem13 at September 10, 2015 09:50 AM (ry4ab)

505 467 >>>>Cj- I am a wall plus kinda guy. I want employers jailed. Don't do a damn thing about deportation, just start rounding up stock brokers' wives for hiring illegal nannies.

I have been begging for just this sort of thing. Forget about the wall, stick a fine not on business but on the business owners/CEOs. $10,000 and 30 days in federal prison per illegal knowingly employed. You don't even need a wall at that point because once you hold the executives personally responsible you will see illegal labor dry up. I also think that any candidate who proposed such an idea would immediately get a ton of attention and at least a five point bounce in the polls.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 10, 2015 09:32 AM (JxMoP)

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They can start by looking at Mohawk.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 10, 2015 09:53 AM (LXJ1e)

506 I care about what Adams thinks for the same reason any of us should: he's outside the conservative echo chamber that we find so comforting. He's a part of the pop culture landscape that the Right is so clueless about, but which plays an increasingly large role in determining the fate of the country.

I'm not clueless about pop culture. I see it all around me, promoting insanity of all sorts.

I don't want anything to do with it as a result.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 10, 2015 09:56 AM (LUgeY)

507 You know ... backing gives Biden the White House - I still win.

Because I'd rather Biden get it than Jeb!. I really would.

Posted by: Irony at September 10, 2015 09:57 AM (E5dnG)

508
Oh, cry me a river.
Posted by: The Chicken at September 10, 2015 09:25 AM (zF6Iw)

They told me you were dead.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at September 10, 2015 09:27 AM (BZAd3)

I thought you'd be taller

Posted by: Snake Plissken at September 10, 2015 09:58 AM (1QsMy)

509 392
Count me with Chemjeff- I am confused at the love for Trump on this site. I don't trust him.

From what I can tell there are 2 or maybe 3 of the Horde who have
anything that could be called "love for Trump." The rest of us love
that his lose cannon-ness is currently pointed at the Ruling Class and
the MFM.

To paraphrase: "We cannot spare this man. He fights."
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Yeah that is pretty much how it stands with me and most other Morons who are pro-Trump.

Posted by: exdem13 at September 10, 2015 09:58 AM (ry4ab)

510 backing Trump ... meant to say backing Trump.

My damn phone is even in the tank for the GOPe.

Posted by: Irony at September 10, 2015 09:59 AM (E5dnG)

511 The GOPe is such an effective boogey man for some people now that they are apparently making Trump say things he does not believe.
It is more likely that Trump doesn't know what he believes about things because he's never thought about them, and his first spoken instinct on most things is usually wrong.

Posted by: CausticConservative at September 10, 2015 09:48 AM (5q6rm)

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Probably. The whole refugee thing blew up just this past week. There is no reason why ANYONE should have a well thought out policy at this point.

Trump's first instinct is people fleeing a war torn area need help. That's not a bad instinct. There are multiple policy options available to help or not.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 10, 2015 10:00 AM (LXJ1e)

512 The Gang of 8 bill wasn't tough enough on border enforcement, but anyone bitching about the fact that we don't have a procedure in place to verify immigration status is partially at fault considering both previous attempts at passing a law on the matter would have dealt with it.

Both the Gang of 8 and Bush immigration bills would have changed the law to require e-verification for all employers. Gang of 8 even included provision that all workers were required to be e-verified or the entity hiring them could be subjected to up to a $7500 fine. The Bush plan was similar.

This alone would have solved much of the problem, and you even had Democrats on board with it.

No more comprehensive approaches. Just pass this piece so we can get on with cleaning up other areas of policy that need desperate attention.

Posted by: CausticConservative at September 10, 2015 10:00 AM (5q6rm)

513 Add to that the fact that millions of Mexicans are settling in territory that they believe is rightfully theirs, and...there's trouble.
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They're also settling in places they never had any historical presence in, or even arguable claim to. Places like Virginia, Georgia, Maine, etc. What's theirs (or once was arguably theirs) is theirs, and what's always been ours is theirs too.

Right or wrong, the Government of Mexico sold the disputed SW territories, like AZ, to the United States many years ago, for what was at the time a huge amount of money. The Mexicans, like the Americans, once made a claim to these territories, and the Mexicans' claim was bested by a stronger claimant. Then the Mexican government sold off what remained of Mexico's claims for money. That should be the end of the story. You don't get to give up and sell out, and then decades later scream "hey, I still want that so it's mine and always has been!" It is not theirs, no matter what fairy tales the Mexicans tell themselves, and I'm sick of all the phony grievance-mongering over their "stolen" land.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 10, 2015 10:01 AM (a31sM)

514 I wonder what Trump would have said to candy crowley when she answered a debate question, instead of the way Romney handled it

Posted by: Cicero Skip at September 10, 2015 10:02 AM (FIrEF)

515 Right or wrong, the Government of Mexico sold the disputed SW territories, like AZ, to the United States many years ago, for what was at the time a huge amount of money. The Mexicans, like the Americans, once made a claim to these territories, and the Mexicans' claim was bested by a stronger claimant. Then the Mexican government sold off what remained of Mexico's claims for money. That should be the end of the story. You don't get to give up and sell out, and then decades later scream "hey, I still want that so it's mine and always has been!" It is not theirs, no matter what fairy tales the Mexicans tell themselves, and I'm sick of all the phony grievance-mongering over their "stolen" land.

President Boy would've had a press conference where the leaders of La Raza were graciously flown in to attend, where the bill of sale was shown.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 10, 2015 10:03 AM (LUgeY)

516 512 The Gang of 8 bill wasn't tough enough on border enforcement, but anyone bitching about the fact that we don't have a procedure in place to verify immigration status is partially at fault considering both previous attempts at passing a law on the matter would have dealt with it.

Both the Gang of 8 and Bush immigration bills would have changed the law to require e-verification for all employers. Gang of 8 even included provision that all workers were required to be e-verified or the entity hiring them could be subjected to up to a $7500 fine. The Bush plan was similar.

This alone would have solved much of the problem, and you even had Democrats on board with it.

No more comprehensive approaches. Just pass this piece so we can get on with cleaning up other areas of policy that need desperate attention.
Posted by: CausticConservative at September 10, 2015 10:00 AM (5q6rm)

Its very easy to find the problem employers. Just look at the cities and towns where the demographics have changed dramatically over the last 20 years. Look for the big employers in those areas.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at September 10, 2015 10:04 AM (LXJ1e)

517 The Gang of 8 bill wasn't tough enough on border enforcement, but a... both previous attempts at passing a law on the matter would have dealt with it.

False. The GOP passed a bill in 2006 requiring the construction of a border fence. In 2007, they gutted the same law. The fence was never built. The GOP cannot be trusted on border security.

Both the Gang of 8 and Bush immigration bills would have changed the law to require e-verification for all employers.

False. Both bills contained so many waivers and loopholes the e-verification parts were meaningless.

Posted by: V the K at September 10, 2015 10:05 AM (O7MnT)

518 e-verify should be the law of the land. But here in Illinois the governor at the time (blowjobovitch, or quinochio) said they would not enforce it. So again democrats only want to enforce the laws they like.

Posted by: Cicero Skip at September 10, 2015 10:05 AM (FIrEF)

519 Where did parental respect go? My sons say shit to me that my dad would have beat the shit out of me for.

Parents? No respect, it's all about them. Fuck you, I am me, hear me now!

Respect is earned; it isn't granted automatically simply because one managed to reproduce. Try a thought experiment: replace yourself along the way with your dad at the same age. Do you think he is treated with the disrespect you are being shown? Why not? Here is another thought experiment: replace your dad with yourself - do you have respect for your new dad?

Posted by: An Observation at September 10, 2015 10:15 AM (roZ24)

520 President Boy would've had a press conference where the leaders of La Raza were graciously flown in to attend, where the bill of sale was shown.
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It's called the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo, and it ended the Mexican-American war. The treaty required the U.S. to pay $15 million to Mexico and to also pay off the claims that American citizens had against the Mexican government (for another $3.25 million). It gave the U.S. the Rio Grande as a boundary for Texas, and let the U.S. have ownership of CA and the area that is now AZ, NM, NV, UT and parts of Wyoming and Colorado. Mexicans who were still living in those areas had the choice under the treaty of relocating to Mexico or remaining in the now-U.S. territories and becoming U.S. citizens with full civil rights. Over 90% of the Mexicans stayed and became Americans.

We "stole" nothing from the Mexicans. We fought for it, won it, and then paid them generously for it anyway. We had already kicked their asses in the war; we didn't need to then pay them millions to recognize our victory, but we did. We bent over backwards to be more than "fair" to them, and we've been rewarded for our magnanimity and generosity ever since with decades of lies and whining about having been "cheated" and, for the past few decades, with what amounts to an outright invasion. I'm sick of it.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 10, 2015 10:20 AM (a31sM)

521 >>>If you want someone who is actually opposed to liberals, has fought the GOPe, and *actually has standard and principles*, then why not support Cruz instead? Trump has no standards or principles, he is just tapping into raw naked rage. That is what demagogues do and that is dangerous.

Right. Trump is dangerous. Cruz is not that dangerous. Safe people do not win fights. Hell they don't even get in them.

Cruz is not as good as a demagogue. The simple fact is if Cruz was polling 40% I would be on board with Cruz. He's not. Trump is.

Trump has real assets in a democratic system that Cruz simply doesn't, things like his celebrity and demagoguery. Cruz is going to try to win with his principles and people are going to say he talks like a fag and his shit's retarded. In reality, principles don't win elections nor lead offenses. It's boyscout stuff. If people writ large were about to sit down and discuss principled ways to run the government we wouldn't be anywhere near the situation we are in. Trump is a man of his time.

There is the way the world should be and the way it is. Principled men complain how the world should be. People like Trump operate in how it is and they're more effective for it.

Posted by: Not Mitt Romney at September 10, 2015 10:23 AM (TULs6)

522 "Comprehensive immigration reform" is like an ER doc telling you he can't stop the bleeding from your neck until you cut down on your sodium.

Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at September 10, 2015 10:27 AM (k8tEg)

523 I love how Trump makes pundits heads explode!

Posted by: Iblis at September 10, 2015 10:31 AM (tAYH3)

524 He's got everything a man can have, except a legacy. He wants one. And with the boat America's in, he's decided that he's got a fair chance of ending up on Rushmore if he manages to stay popular, give the American people what they want, and reverse this country's decline.

Nominated for the Trumptard take of the day.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at September 10, 2015 10:36 AM (1RNgT)

525 Finally got around to reading the Scott Adams blog... Gotta say soon as I read "angry wife face", I too knew the exact Carly face being referenced.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at September 10, 2015 02:16 PM (MbrzC)

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