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Overnight Open Thread (9-7-2015) – Living Like a Refugee Edition
And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison, and will go forth and deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, and will gather them together for the battle; the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up over the breadth of the earth and encompassed the camp of the saints, and the beloved city.
-- Revelation 20:7-9 from whence the novel, Camp of the Saints, takes its name
Actually we can't do what we like with [Britain]. We inherited it from our parents and grandparents and we have a duty to hand it on to our children and grandchildren, preferably improved and certainly undamaged. It is one of the heaviest responsibilities we will ever have. We cannot just give it away to complete strangers on an impulse because it makes us feel good about ourselves.Every one of the posturing notables simpering 'refugees welcome' should be asked if he or she will take a refugee family into his or her home for an indefinite period, and pay for their food, medical treatment and education.
If so, they mean it. If not, they are merely demanding that others pay and make room so that they can experience a self-righteous glow.
-- Peter Hitchens
Berlin has said it expects to receive a record 800,000 asylum seekers this year, more than the entire EU combined in 2014, laying bare the scale of the biggest refugee crisis to face the continent since the second world war.
Moe Lane on the Word of the Day: Völkerwanderung
German word, obviously: Völkerwanderung more or less means 'folk migration.' Admittedly, Iron Age European history is a little outside of my patch, but I do seem to recall that the Roman Empire (and later, its successor states*) had to deal with lots of people moving to where there wasn't a war. Or at least to where the people moving could win a war.
And while Germany and Sweden are welcoming up to 1-2 million refugees with official open-arms, other EU nations are not nearly so enamored with taking them in:
The Netherlands Crack Down on Asylum Seekers
While Germany opened up its doors to make it easier for those arriving at its borders and France criticised Hungary over its new 110-mile razor wire fence, the Dutch government was going in a different direction.From November, any migrant who refused refugee status or humanitarian protection will be given less than a month before they are deported or told to fend for themselves.
As part of the measures, the government wants to shut down 30 regional "bed, bath and bread" centres where asylum seekers can find shelter, regardless of the status of their application.
Danish Police Stop Refugee March to Sweden
Denmark Starts Publishing Ads in Lebanese Newspapers Warning Asylum Seekers Away
Slovakia Declares That It Will Only Accept Christian Refugees
Hungary Builds 106 Mile Barbed Wire Fence, Threatens to Halt Rail Traffic to Stem Refugee Tide
Bookworm on the Mass Muslim Migration into Europe
Europe is also a reminder to be careful what you wish for, because you might get it. Europe wanted a Judenrein continent. Well, as matters now stand, their malevolent oral and financial attacks on Israel will have succeeded, once and for all, in driving the Jews out. But by empowering the Muslims, their tactics will also drive out the Europeans, whether by turning them into refugees, or through their slaughter, conversion, or enslavement.But Bookworm, you sound so callous, so hard? What about the children?
What about them? They're pawns and pawns always get sacrificed.
As you know, when the world is upset, and most certainly when non-Judeo-Christian cultures are involved, the children always die. That's a dreadful reality.
And you've probably seen this picture of a Syrian child who drowned with his mother and sibling while trying to make it to Greece.
It's sad but remember that the proximate cause of his death was his parents' deliberate choice to take him on a sea journey in a flimsy boat. Their bad choices killed him - not Europe. And also pretty much everything you've heard about this story from the father is bullshit. They had a safe life in Turkey but decided that they really wanted to live better in Germany or Canada.
CDR Salamander: The Waves Have Already Started
No, this is new. The migrants are coming in waves 100,000 strong, month by month to already crowded nations under economic stress and beset with welfare state largess.These nations do not demand new arrivals assimilate, and in a large measure, the new arrivals don't want to. With modern communication and entertainment a satellite dish away, they don't have to break from the home language and culture they are bringing and keeping is the same culture of violence, sectarianism, corruption and dependence that caused the source country's dysfunction in the first place.
Their foreign and often hostile culture, if not checked to manageable numbers and smart policies, will overwhelm their target nations and inside half a century. Those nations as well will fail as their civil society fractures and loses its ability to function as designed for a nation and culture that no longer exists.
...The time for easy solutions is past. The last generation or two threw that opportunity away. Doing nothing is not an option because, eventually, this migration will shift to invasion in the mind of a plurality of each nation's citizens. When that happens, if good political leaders do not act, the people will turn to whatever leader promises actions. That rarely is the better outcome.
No nation is required to commit suicide, and leaders who desire to fundamentally transform their nations should not expect for their population to allow that change to be done against the will of the people - if indeed the people ever decide their national culture is worth defending anymore.
Why the Refugees Are Making a Beeline for Germany and Sweden
Under the rules that govern how Europe handles new arrivals, known as the Dublin Regulation, migrants can be sent back to the first E.U. nation they entered. Because its reception facilities are so bad, the rule does not apply to Greece. And some nations, including Sweden and Germany, have said they will waive the rules for Syrians.
There isn't a uniform benefits system, either, with nations such as Hungary offering little compared with Germany and Sweden. Acceptance rates also vary dramatically. Hungary, for instance, is granting asylum to only a fraction of 1 percent of applicants, according to UNHCR. Germany, meanwhile, has a nearly 40 percent acceptance rate - and almost 90 percent for Syrians.
Swedish Newspaper Outs Anti-Immigration Blogger
'Julia Caesar', an anonymous right-wing blogger who has blasted Swedish journalists for writing an "epoch of lies" about the benefits of immigration, is herself a former reporter for Sweden's biggest broadsheet, Dagens Nyheter, according to a Swedish tabloid....On Wednesday, Sweden's Expressen tabloid revealed that the blogger - who has also published three books - is herself a former journalist for Dagens Nyheter (DN), a Swedish newspaper. . . .
"It is clear that it is not an obvious decision to publish the name of somebody who wants to remain anonymous," wrote Expressen's Head of Culture and Deputy Managing Editor at Expressen, Karin Olsson as the newspaper exposed Barbro Jöberger as being behind the far-right blog.
"But given her great influence and role in alternative debates online, we have decided that her name should be made available so that we are able to have an open debate."
"It is reasonable that such an influential opinion maker should be made accountable," she said.
C'est reasonable pour encourager les autres.
Spengler on the The Price of Europe's Fecklessness
At this point the floodgates of European sympathy opened, and Germany declared that it would accept 800,000 fugitives, including many from the world's most brutal war zones. From a security standpoint it is foolhardy in the extreme: 250,000 people have died in Syria's civil war since 2011 because other people killed them, mostly with small arms or improvised explosives (such as the government's notorious "barrel bombs"). Such killing is a labor-intensive affair, and requires the participation of many thousands of killers. It is isn't only that ISIS (and other jihadists) are able to smuggle to Europe as many of their operatives as they care to, as ISIS itself purportedly boasts. The refugee population itself is flush with killers from both sides fleeing the war. The presence of small children does not obviate this; killers have families, too.The Arab Gulf States accept very few Syrian refugees out of security concerns which are entirely legitimate. Thousands of Syrian migrants fought either with the Assad regime (allied to Iran, the nemesis of the Sunni Gulf States) or ISIS and al-Qaeda (which want to overthrow the Saudi monarchy).
The social pathologies that this brutal and brutalized population bring Europe will change Germany in a predictably nasty way. Even worse, the open door policy will attract an order of magnitude more such refugees, as the Interior Minister of the State of Bavaria, Joachim Herrmann, warned yesterday. To no avail: Germans have spent the past seventy years feeling badly about themselves and are determined to take this opportunity to feel good about themselves.
The refugees have given the Germans the sort of frisson of good feeling that one gets from adopting a stray puppy. This one redemptive act, they seem to believe, compensates for the country's criminal behavior during the middle of the past century. It is one thing to take in one stray, however, and quite another to find a pack of hungry dogs baying at one's door. At that point one calls the dog-catcher.
Kevin D. Williamson on Labor Day: We Don't Need This Quasi-Canadian, Crypto-Communist Holiday
Supreme Court Takes Case Challenging Forced Paying of Public Sector Union Dues
Army Selects Rarely Used Charge For Bergdahl Court-martial
Military prosecutors have reached into a section of military law seldom used since World War II in the politically fraught case against Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, the soldier held prisoner for years by the Taliban after leaving his post in Afghanistan. Observers wondered for months if Bergdahl would be charged with desertion after the deal brokered by the U.S. to bring him home. He was - but he was also charged with misbehavior before the enemy, a much rarer offense that carries a stiffer potential penalty in this case.
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Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Lauren at September 07, 2015 11:15 PM (FVcCP)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 07, 2015 11:16 PM (fC9RO)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 07, 2015 11:17 PM (0TXlm)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 07, 2015 11:18 PM (hOm72)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 07, 2015 11:19 PM (vM+YG)
Posted by: Heinrich Petty at September 07, 2015 11:20 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 07, 2015 11:22 PM (hOm72)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2015 11:22 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 07, 2015 11:22 PM (gyKtp)
Now will Putin curtail natural gas deliveries to Germany in February?
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 07, 2015 11:22 PM (Sz+px)
Posted by: Old Blue at September 07, 2015 11:23 PM (9iR5/)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 07, 2015 11:24 PM (VLTL9)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 07, 2015 11:24 PM (hOm72)
Posted by: Germany at September 07, 2015 11:24 PM (75uvI)
Posted by: Positive Waves at September 07, 2015 11:25 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 07, 2015 11:25 PM (hOm72)
I came all the way from Mazomanie to have a good time and this what happens to me, famous last words uttered in a porta-potty
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 07, 2015 11:25 PM (vM+YG)
Posted by: Emperor First-Rate Political Hack at September 07, 2015 11:25 PM (sJuWI)
Posted by: Bill R. at September 07, 2015 11:25 PM (jKUeC)
Well, sure. Here in the U.S., we get the same sort of thing with Californicators showing up in droves in Oregon and, in the east, "Massholes" invading New Hampshire, fleeing from the high-tax, high-crime, high-unemployment hellholes they themselves created.
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 07, 2015 11:26 PM (Cze+6)
Posted by: Heinrich Petty at September 07, 2015 11:26 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 07, 2015 11:26 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 07, 2015 11:26 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Germany at September 07, 2015 11:24 PM (75uvI)
***
I thought that was more of a Russian thing?
Evening ONT.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 07, 2015 11:26 PM (VynIP)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 07, 2015 11:26 PM (VviqM)
I think there's enough issues with the policy (i.e., the banlieues of France) to not have to resort to that.
Namely, the Iran deal. It's possible, just possible, that empowering Iran will make this refugee crisis look like a blip.
Posted by: AD at September 07, 2015 11:26 PM (s4wTA)
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at September 07, 2015 11:28 PM (mvenn)
Evening ONT.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 07, 2015 11:26 PM (VynIP)
Eyeties.
Posted by: Emperor First-Rate Political Hack at September 07, 2015 11:28 PM (sJuWI)
How is this better?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 07, 2015 11:28 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 07, 2015 11:16 PM (fC9RO)
There aren't because the Europeans are constantly ceding internal territory to Muslims. This will just speed up the process. I figure the elites of Europe will either leave or convert once the Muslim population hits 25%.
It would be more interesting if it wasn't for the fact we are in the process of doing the same thing except with Hispanics. Although they are doing all they can to import more Muslims (Bush isn't blameless here either).
Bookworm is wrong on one point. Jews tend to promote multi-cultural societies in the mistaken belief it will keep them from being singled out. It's just not working out like they thought.
Posted by: WOPR at September 07, 2015 11:28 PM (nRvEn)
Nicht gut ja?
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 07, 2015 11:29 PM (Sz+px)
Dude. That's more or less what we have now.
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 07, 2015 11:29 PM (Cze+6)
borders and let people go where they want, but that will never happen
because of nationalism everywhere, so the pols win and they'll continue
winning.
Posted by: All Teh Meh
That is a monumentally stupid statement. Did you have a lobotomy in the last week?
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at September 07, 2015 11:29 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at September 07, 2015 11:28 PM (mvenn)
Wanna (hic) bet?
Posted by: John Boehner, Leader of the Oompa Loompas at September 07, 2015 11:29 PM (sJuWI)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 07, 2015 11:30 PM (+lVUW)
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WTAF? You do realize of course, that a sovereign nation that cannot control its borders, and allows unlimited immigration with a generous welfare state will cease to be a sovereign nation in no time at all. It will degenerate into the same third world cesspool that those people left.
Posted by: Old Blue at September 07, 2015 11:30 PM (9iR5/)
Wrong in so many instances
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 07, 2015 11:30 PM (vM+YG)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 07, 2015 11:30 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 07, 2015 11:30 PM (Sz+px)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 07, 2015 11:30 PM (+lVUW)
According to one of the articles: 2
Posted by: Maetenloch at September 07, 2015 11:30 PM (wqVD1)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 07, 2015 11:30 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: logprof at September 07, 2015 11:30 PM (vsbNu)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 07, 2015 11:31 PM (hOm72)
https://eurocivilwar2017.wordpress.com/
Sadly, it hasn't been updated since November of last year...
Posted by: The Invading Hat at September 07, 2015 11:31 PM (0TXlm)
Posted by: anon a mouse at September 07, 2015 11:31 PM (GA9gG)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 07, 2015 11:31 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 07, 2015 11:26 PM (VviqM)
Yeah, I mean who needs icky borders? Who needs a lock on their door? If you weren't rigging it against other people, there wouldn't be a problem and they could just move into a room in your house.
Posted by: WOPR at September 07, 2015 11:32 PM (nRvEn)
And harkening back to a previous thread, if I were in charge of governmental appointments, I'd make a shift in alignment in one key area.
The "Muslim Outreach" mission would be pulled from NASA, and re assigned to the Strategic Air Command.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at September 07, 2015 11:32 PM (McRlu)
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 07, 2015 11:32 PM (Cze+6)
Posted by: logprof at September 07, 2015 11:32 PM (vsbNu)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 07, 2015 11:32 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Heinrich Petty at September 07, 2015 11:32 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: AD
If a few nukes actually fly (and I think the first targets might be Sunni cities like Doha and Riyadh), then it will be a tidal wave of refugees.
The next wave will be when ISIS / Sunnis win in Syria, and then start to ethnically cleanse Syria of non-Sunni Muslims and other ethnics that were tolerated under Assad. What Muslims do best, kill each other.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at September 07, 2015 11:32 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 07, 2015 11:33 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 07, 2015 11:26 PM (VviqM)
***
Another solution is to shut them down completely. Why not try something new? Our already wide open borders policy would seem to evidentially be a sub optimal solution.
What the hell, let's get a little crazy.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 07, 2015 11:33 PM (VynIP)
Posted by: TickledPink at September 07, 2015 11:33 PM (DbwiF)
Not saying anything.
Pretty much agree. Just, ya know.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 07, 2015 11:33 PM (hOm72)
http://tinyurl.com/q58jhw6
Personally, I think this doesn't go far enough. The major civil rights issue of this year is the transgendered people - there needs to be a major human transgendered person who's going to hook up with an alien of the same biological sex as the human character. We cannot rest until SW gets with the times!
Posted by: Thrawn at September 07, 2015 11:33 PM (wZ2hu)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 07, 2015 11:34 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 07, 2015 11:30 PM (Sz+px)
Because they aren't stupid. Should have forced the non-Christian Syrians to stay in the country and duke it out.
Posted by: WOPR at September 07, 2015 11:34 PM (nRvEn)
Posted by: Positive Waves at September 07, 2015 11:34 PM (MQEz6)
https://youtu.be/hkjQ7WetVJk
Taking the Chicks in chain-mail motif to a whole different level.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 07, 2015 11:34 PM (Sz+px)
It was court-ordered.
Posted by: The Ghey Mafia at September 07, 2015 11:34 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: logprof at September 07, 2015 11:34 PM (vsbNu)
Europe has been too accepting of islam and now they are stuck with this bs. In the Uk some dirt bag who joined ISIS and was killed by a drone, his family is up in arms and wants an investigation. Well, eff you!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 07, 2015 11:34 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Wind Breaker at September 07, 2015 11:35 PM (/pOl7)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 07, 2015 11:37 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Thrawn at September 07, 2015 11:37 PM (wZ2hu)
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at September 07, 2015 11:28 PM (mvenn)
not too much fortunately
Posted by: Hilarity! at September 07, 2015 11:37 PM (7RXcs)
You know what would help? If Angela Merkel gave a few interviews in Arabic. Make everybody feel all welcome like.
Posted by: !Jeb!
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 07, 2015 11:37 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: TickledPink at September 07, 2015 11:33 PM (DbwiF)
But its Batman.
Posted by: buzzion at September 07, 2015 11:37 PM (zt+N6)
Heh. We find ourselves. Talking.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 07, 2015 11:38 PM (hOm72)
Posted by: logprof at September 07, 2015 11:34 PM (vsbNu)
He was trying to get to Germany to get his teeth worked on. He had lived in Turkey for at least three years. This isn't a refugee crisis. This is a "we can get great free stuff in Europe."
Posted by: WOPR at September 07, 2015 11:38 PM (nRvEn)
If it gets so bad that *something* must get done, then instead of importing their problem, we should export our solution:
Invade. Kill anyone who tries to stop us. Declare protectorate. Mandate the teaching and use of English. And since we'll be accused of that anyway, steal their oil.
Since we'll be called "imperial" and "colonizers" anyway, just might as well reap the benefits of the same.
Posted by: The Imperial Hat at September 07, 2015 11:39 PM (0TXlm)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 07, 2015 11:39 PM (W5DcG)
I casually know the guy. Stopped by the hardware store, and there it was. The Prince of Darkness strikes when least expected. The guy that owns it is not a 'car guy', but likes the idea of occasionally driving about in a sports car. He has owned it for 15 years, but knows nothing about it, technically. Just drives it. The under hood condition is pretty bad. Neglect.
Note that it is the troublesome three carb model.
He had been in shopping, came and out the car would not start. There was a tinge of gasoline odor about, so I do not think the problem was fuel. He ran the battery down trying to crank it, thus the jumper cables. I tried to assist, but the guy is too ignorant to understand simple ignition electronics, and resisted (another pun!) my polite efforts. Last thing I heard him say was, "I'm calling a tow truck".
http://tinyurl.com/onuhf4x
http://tinyurl.com/osymtjm
http://tinyurl.com/nqm99uq
http://tinyurl.com/od79pmd
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 07, 2015 11:40 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at September 07, 2015 11:40 PM (7RXcs)
The President will forget you. Why? To save you means he has to go on the record defending someone accused of desertion. That is very bad optics for this risk-adverse President. Just ask the four dead from Benghazi.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 07, 2015 11:40 PM (Sz+px)
Posted by: logprof at September 07, 2015 11:30 PM (vsbNu)
Why read it when you can experience it first hand.
Posted by: WOPR at September 07, 2015 11:40 PM (nRvEn)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 07, 2015 11:40 PM (hOm72)
Most illegals who come here send the majority of their earnings back to their families in their original country, that's how they work cheap and get hired over American workers. Let them come here with their families and compete with American workers honestly and let Americans go to other countries and do the same, but as you can see by other relies in this thread, that won't happen, pols don't want it, the corporatists who benefit from the cheap labor and line the pols pockets don't want it, and people who have the natural sense of nationalism don't want it, so this is how it will always be and you'll hear the same complaints 50 years from now about how we need to close the border.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 07, 2015 11:41 PM (VviqM)
Posted by: Positive Waves at September 07, 2015 11:41 PM (MQEz6)
The best thing about Michigan winters is that people from Southern California don't have much desire to move here. Which is good because we already have too damn many democrats.
Our democrats are different from theirs, because many of ours are pro-gun rights. They're not too bright though. When Obama told them in the '08 election that he wouldn't try to take their guns, the dumbasses bought it.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 07, 2015 11:41 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 07, 2015 11:41 PM (zyIlW)
Posted by: logprof at September 07, 2015 11:34 PM (vsbNu)
He was trying to get to Germany to get his teeth worked on. He had lived in Turkey for at least three years. This isn't a refugee crisis. This is a "we can get great free stuff in Europe."
Posted by: WOPR at September 07, 2015 11:38 PM (nRvEn)
--Yes, and Kurds are far more culturally compatible in Turkey, with hundreds of thousands of other Kurds, than in Europe.
Posted by: logprof at September 07, 2015 11:41 PM (vsbNu)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 07, 2015 11:41 PM (rwI+c)
Spoilers - he isn't saying anything new, only putting more fresh statistics on his train of logic.
http://tinyurl.com/onsague
Posted by: Thrawn at September 07, 2015 11:41 PM (wZ2hu)
You know what Merkel ought to do? Head to the border with a truckload of welcome teddybears.
Posted by: Ted LCF Cruz
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 07, 2015 11:41 PM (kdS6q)
No such thing as transgender--it's a fiction. People claiming to be such are simply males/females with emotional issues.
But biology is immutable.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 07, 2015 11:41 PM (jeCnD)
issue will be taken up by the National Front and other assorted groups
over the next few years?
Posted by: Thrawn
It's a generation too late. It's too late to get people politically aroused, because governments are bent on ORDER, and you can bet security services in the various countries are ready to smack down this sort of thing. The state-led media already villainizes such "racist nationalists".
I would also guess that in the next few years, there will be major emmigration of normal folks from Europe to Canada, the US,Argentina Brazil and Chile. Who knows, it might be a good thing for Argentina.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at September 07, 2015 11:42 PM (+1T7c)
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2006/01/feeling-of-dread.html
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 07, 2015 11:43 PM (Sz+px)
Posted by: logprof at September 07, 2015 11:43 PM (vsbNu)
The only appropriate response to this is a hearty fuck you and the horse you crossed the border on as you are no countryman of mine.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 07, 2015 11:43 PM (rwI+c)
And as a reminder of where the word vandal comes from:
The Vandals were an East Germanic tribe, or group of tribes, who were first heard of in southern Poland, but later moved around Europe establishing kingdoms in Spain and later North Africa in the 5th century.
Oh and South America is falling apart too -- Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela are all pretty sickly. Mexico isn't far behind. It's gonna get sporty, folks.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 07, 2015 11:43 PM (gyKtp)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 07, 2015 11:44 PM (hOm72)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 07, 2015 11:25 PM (vM+YG)
The hell you doin' in Mazo? Hanging at the naked homo beach?
Holy hell, I lived there for a year. Glad to be outta there.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 07, 2015 11:44 PM (+YMhA)
I'll one up it. We send our illegals to the Middle East to colonize it. We'll arm them once they are there. They can have the oil and if they capture Mecca or Medina they get extra points.
Posted by: WOPR at September 07, 2015 11:44 PM (nRvEn)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 07, 2015 11:44 PM (zyIlW)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 07, 2015 11:41 PM (VviqM)
The flaw in your utopian vision is that it turns out that peoples and cultures are not actually fungible.
Posted by: Maetenloch at September 07, 2015 11:44 PM (wqVD1)
Welcome to frequent terrorist attacks, Europe. You just invited the barbarians in with gifts and fanfare just like us.
Posted by: L, Elle at September 07, 2015 11:45 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 07, 2015 11:45 PM (hOm72)
No such thing as transgender--it's a fiction. People claiming to be such are simply males/females with emotional issues.
But biology is immutable.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 07, 2015 11:41 PM (jeCnD)
Listen up, you cis-het-white sh*tlord.
I feel like I'm a transgendered wolf-kin and how dare you tell me otherwise!
Now excuse me while I beg my uber-conservative parents for money to get my balls chopped off and get a stupid wolf tail and fangs.
Posted by: Tumblr SWJ at September 07, 2015 11:45 PM (wZ2hu)
Posted by: Positive Waves at September 07, 2015 11:45 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at September 07, 2015 11:32 PM (+1T7c)
Their CofC staid the excelled in goat relations as well
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 07, 2015 11:45 PM (vM+YG)
But where will they go? Where is left?
Why -- the good ol' USA, of course.
But should we take them ALL in? No. Let's not repeat the foolish mistake the Europeans just made. Let's be selective and only allow in those whom we want.
To that end, I suggest these be the priority categories for admitting European refugees in the coming years and decades:
-- Italian women between the ages of 18 and 32, and under 135 pounds;
-- German engineers;
-- British actors;
-- Portuguese soccer players;
-- long-legged Ukrainian picture brides;
-- Swiss bankers;
-- and absolutely no Frenchmen.
Any other suggestions for the Immigration Act of 2018?
Posted by: zombie at September 07, 2015 11:45 PM (jBuUi)
I read that story this morning. Hope they get the book thrown at them.
Marble Falls is about 50 miles SW of Austin.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 07, 2015 11:46 PM (zyIlW)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 07, 2015 11:46 PM (zyIlW)
One World crap.
Posted by: Positive Waves at September 07, 2015 11:45 PM (MQEz6)
Excellent, *rubs hands in anticipation.*
Posted by: Nicolae Carpathia at September 07, 2015 11:46 PM (wZ2hu)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 07, 2015 11:46 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Positive Waves at September 07, 2015 11:41 PM (MQEz6)
which one? Europe & Russia? Middle East? Civil War right here at home? all of the above?
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at September 07, 2015 11:47 PM (7RXcs)
Posted by: zombie at September 07, 2015 11:45 PM (jBuUi)
Dibs on the Czech ladies.
Posted by: Maetenloch at September 07, 2015 11:47 PM (wqVD1)
Posted by: Weyland-Yutani Corp "Building Better Worlds" at September 07, 2015 11:47 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Lauren at September 07, 2015 11:47 PM (FVcCP)
Posted by: The Vandals at September 07, 2015 11:47 PM (75uvI)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 07, 2015 11:47 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: The Trippel Hat at September 07, 2015 11:47 PM (0TXlm)
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at September 07, 2015 11:48 PM (nFdGS)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 07, 2015 11:48 PM (hOm72)
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/640948537258184704
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/640948920114278400
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/640949115212328960
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/640949332171100160
Posted by: kbdabear at September 07, 2015 11:48 PM (GrXXa)
It's not utopian because you're right, but it's certainly better than continuing to allow politicians to benefit from a corrupt system while most workers are hurt.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 07, 2015 11:48 PM (VviqM)
Posted by: zombie at September 07, 2015 11:45 PM (jBuUi)
Buxom Polish butter churners between the ages of 16 and 25.
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 07, 2015 11:49 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Lauren at September 07, 2015 11:49 PM (FVcCP)
By fucking other workers? Or are they the unworthy ones?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 07, 2015 11:49 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: The Vandals"
Bastards. Everytime.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 07, 2015 11:49 PM (hOm72)
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/640949501604171776
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/640949665609879552
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/640949818207141888
https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/640949954878423040
Posted by: kbdabear at September 07, 2015 11:49 PM (GrXXa)
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at September 07, 2015 11:49 PM (mvenn)
****
Yep. They are infiltrating Combat units.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 07, 2015 11:50 PM (VynIP)
Once again, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard (aside from your first comment on this thread, of course. That one adds a whole new dimension to the word 'horseshit'). At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Again.
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 07, 2015 11:50 PM (Cze+6)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 07, 2015 11:50 PM (Sz+px)
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Jebbie, is that you?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 07, 2015 11:50 PM (75uvI)
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at September 07, 2015 11:47 PM (7RXcs)
You'll need to get them in order.
The disastrous turn-out of the 9-Dash-Line War, which pretty much forfeited most if not all American influence in the S. China Sea, will initiate the 2nd American Civil War.
Meanwhile, seeing America at her weakest point since the 1800s will cause Putin to speed up his plans in forming his "New Russia". Regardless of who wins the resulting Iran-Israel dust-up, Europe will continue to speed into the Islamic Caliphate void.
Posted by: Thrawn at September 07, 2015 11:50 PM (wZ2hu)
Posted by: Splunge at September 07, 2015 11:50 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 07, 2015 11:43 PM (gyKtp)
Thank goodness all these international socialists are around to promote stabiity.
Posted by: John Boehner, Leader of the Oompa Loompas at September 07, 2015 11:51 PM (sJuWI)
Posted by: Dyrndl-clad German College girls applying for asylum at September 07, 2015 11:51 PM (DhpXG)
The only appropriate response to this is a hearty fuck you and the horse you crossed the border on as you are no countryman of mine.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 07, 2015 11:43 PM (rwI+c)
I'm trying to determine which drug he is taking because it obviously has sent reality far away from him.
Their families are already here, collecting benefits via your tax money. I know it is shocking but people who break immigration law will break other laws. And it you let them in legally, they will still break the law.
Posted by: WOPR at September 07, 2015 11:51 PM (nRvEn)
Posted by: logprof at September 07, 2015 11:51 PM (vsbNu)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 07, 2015 11:51 PM (rwI+c)
" The pump don't work because we took the frickin handle.
Posted by: The Vandals"
>>>
The pump wouldn't work anyways because we stopped the water.
Posted by: EPA at September 07, 2015 11:52 PM (HhwmG)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 07, 2015 11:52 PM (iQIUe)
Am I hearing that in some poster's statements tonight?
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 07, 2015 11:52 PM (Sz+px)
Fool me once, shame on you
Fool me twice, I'm a Democrat!
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at September 07, 2015 11:53 PM (+1T7c)
I was reading the first half, "He should close with Tom Petty."
And you did
Posted by: L, Elle at September 07, 2015 11:53 PM (2x3L+)
Most illegals that come here both send home money AND get benefits. A lot of them live better on the benefits than they could with just wages in their home countries.
A lot of them are skirting the law, so they also don't report under the table work, and such caring things such as work under multiple false SSN that allow the under reporting of wages to qualify for benies.
We cannot have open borders and a welfare state. These illegal workers come to the US and not only is their employment subsidized by legal workers and businesses TO A GREATER AMOUNT than what the illegal workers contribute, the legal workers are experiencing wage suppression in the face of illegal workers undercutting by accepting less wages.
In fact THOSE HORRIBLE CORPORATIONS are not only being subsidized by YOUR TAX MONEY to CHEAT ILLEGALS with lower wages, their use and preference for CHEAP THIRD WORLD LABOR makes legal workers PAY HIGHER TAXES to subsidize CHEAP LABOR to steal their jobs.
So, you should be happy and feel all fuzzy inside because you are making a difference.
Happy.
Happy.
Socialist happy.
Want some Cake?
Posted by: Kindltot at September 07, 2015 11:53 PM (3pRHP)
Posted by: Lauren at September 07, 2015 11:53 PM (FVcCP)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 07, 2015 11:53 PM (hOm72)
*You may enter*
*You may enter*
Not so fast, there, "Caitlyn."
Posted by: Splunge at September 07, 2015 11:53 PM (iMxBJ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gimiDBAK2wA
Posted by: TJ Camper at September 07, 2015 11:53 PM (v5oV6)
Never forget, we're Americans, so the head is held HIGH.
Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 07, 2015 11:54 PM (jeCnD)
Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at September 07, 2015 11:54 PM (75uvI)
Posted by: Grump
----------------------------
That.
It must be.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 07, 2015 11:54 PM (9mTYi)
The hell you doin' in Mazo? Hanging at the naked homo beach?
Holy hell, I lived there for a year. Glad to be outta there.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 07, 2015 11:44 PM
Funny campfire story from my best friends sister, I giggle every time I think of itb
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 07, 2015 11:55 PM (vM+YG)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 07, 2015 11:55 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 07, 2015 11:55 PM (Cze+6)
Guess I should meander off to do some more writing. Please buy Golden Isis via the AoS Amazon store link. We need to keep the Ewok afloat in Val-u-Rite.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 07, 2015 11:55 PM (Sz+px)
Posted by: rickl at September 07, 2015 11:56 PM (sdi6R)
We might import some of those folks.
Posted by: TickledPink at September 07, 2015 11:56 PM (DbwiF)
Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 07, 2015 11:54 PM (jeCnD)
***
Night and thanks, IG.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 07, 2015 11:56 PM (VynIP)
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 07, 2015 11:57 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Lauren at September 07, 2015 11:57 PM (FVcCP)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 07, 2015 11:58 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: ` at September 07, 2015 11:58 PM (nRvEn)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 07, 2015 11:58 PM (hOm72)
Happy.
Happy.
Socialist happy.
Want some Cake?
Posted by: Kindltot at September 07, 2015 11:53 PM (3pRHP)
Pie. Blueberry pie..
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 07, 2015 11:58 PM (vM+YG)
Posted by: Marcel Marceau at September 07, 2015 11:58 PM (75uvI)
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at September 07, 2015 11:59 PM (mvenn)
I might allow a few in.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 07, 2015 11:57 PM (9mTYi)
***
Some of those Cork Soakers may merit further consideration.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 07, 2015 11:59 PM (VynIP)
Posted by: Kindltot at September 07, 2015 11:53 PM (3pRHP)
The cake is a lie.
The cake is a lie.
The cake is a lie.
The cake is a lie.
Posted by: Doug Rattmann at September 07, 2015 11:59 PM (0TXlm)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 08, 2015 12:00 AM (Sz+px)
Exactly, which is why they should be allowed to come here and compete honestly, and Americans allowed to do the same in other countries, and yeah, get rid of the welfare state regardless, also, some cake would be great, thanks.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 08, 2015 12:00 AM (VviqM)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 08, 2015 12:00 AM (hOm72)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 08, 2015 12:01 AM (rwI+c)
Now the Pope, that commie b*stard is scarin' the bejeebus outa me, noamean?
Posted by: eureka! at September 08, 2015 12:01 AM (g1MTt)
This is an Obama dream. It sticks it to every conservative in the US, and fills the Democratic voting rolls...degrades the traditional USA...and creates an ongoing series of crisis which is the backbone of new lawmaking to the Democratic party.
We're going to get hammered by new Syrian refugees...and it's going to be done as covertly as possible.
Posted by: OrsonSnow at September 08, 2015 12:02 AM (oV8Ug)
***
I've always wondered the correct pronunciation of your name. Is the 'm' silent?
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at September 08, 2015 12:02 AM (mvenn)
Tom Krautman's Caliphate
Posted by: Fox2! at September 08, 2015 12:02 AM (brIR5)
Posted by: ` at September 07, 2015 11:58 PM (nRvEn)
Title or author?
Posted by: The Reading Hat at September 08, 2015 12:02 AM (0TXlm)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 08, 2015 12:02 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at September 08, 2015 12:02 AM (WlQGZ)
You know how they were chopping everyone's head off in merry old England? Occasionally you would hear of mishaps but I think it was rare that it wasnt a bloody awful painful mess. I base this on watching a couple of these cartel murders by axe. It takes a lot of whacks to separate your head. And having your head on a block did not make it easier. I saw that in a documentary where they said the best way was for the condemned to lay flat which rarely happened.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 08, 2015 12:02 AM (iQIUe)
Country's full. Moose out from should have told ya.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 08, 2015 12:03 AM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2015 12:03 AM (3pRHP)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 08, 2015 12:00 AM (VviqM)
*****
The honest competition ain't ever gonna happen, Jeb and the COC, and the sad part is that you know it. The really sad part is that you just don't care.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 08, 2015 12:04 AM (VynIP)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at September 08, 2015 12:04 AM (hOm72)
And they invented good beer.
Posted by: Grump928(C)
They are welcome to join the Czechs in Texas. Good folks. Fine handguns.
Posted by: Daybrother Now in Sterile Packaging at September 08, 2015 12:04 AM (GEK1I)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 07, 2015 11:30 PM (+lVUW)
According to one of the articles: 2
Posted by: Maetenloch at September 07, 2015 11:30 PM (wqVD1)
Good. That means he'll have plenty of room left, so he can take some of our illegal aliens back with him.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 08, 2015 12:04 AM (+lVUW)
Lauren, very disappointing. I was expecting Cake Girl.
http://tinyurl.com/nq56qah
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 08, 2015 12:05 AM (gyKtp)
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 08, 2015 12:05 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 08, 2015 12:06 AM (sYdRN)
Posted by: OrsonSnow at September 08, 2015 12:02 AM (oV8Ug)
--"Refugees" are already handles on the down-low, with federally-subsidized "refugee" agencies swooping into small (surprisingly, mostly white) cities and towns to sweet-talk local officials, priming them on how awesome the feneral cheddah will be in exchange for taking in useless grown-ups and minor students who do not speak English.
It's a disgusting, anti-American racket, and all the big churches are in on it.
Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2015 12:07 AM (vsbNu)
The real solution of course is to make no benefits. That ends almost all migration right there. But the children you say? I say the children won't be coming without benefits either.
The place to change the policies is in their countries, they should stay there and fight for them.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 08, 2015 12:07 AM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 08, 2015 12:07 AM (qSQG+)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 07, 2015 11:41 PM (VviqM)
Yes, I can't wait to move to Guadalajara and take that non-existent job waiting for me since Juan the gardener moved to El Norte.
Oh wait, I don't speak Spanish or desire to take a 80% cut in earnings. Guess I'll have to think of another plan.
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 08, 2015 12:08 AM (laMCB)
They are about to let in 800,000 'refugees' most of whom are fit, young to middle aged men (who are going to get jobs and then 'send for their families')...
If even 10% of them were Islamists, they would outnumber the entire German army.
I believe this goes under the category of, not smart.
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 08, 2015 12:08 AM (qh617)
I disagree. For huge chunks of the Earth's population, simply being able to sleep at night without worrying about starving or being murdered the next day is a huge benefit.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 08, 2015 12:09 AM (rwI+c)
Redheads of the Irish, Scots or Scandavian XX persuasion
Posted by: Fox2! at September 08, 2015 12:10 AM (brIR5)
Supposedly the Turkish way to behead a kneeling prisoner was to stab them in a kidney first so they would arch the neck back and both channel the blow and make sure the jawbone was out of the line of the stroke, but I suspect the normal stance for the victim is huddled down with the jaw tucked - that is a stance that will reflect some of the blow.
God I know some grim things.
Wanna talk "Colombian neck-ties next"?
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2015 12:10 AM (3pRHP)
Posted by: Thurston Howell Trump at September 08, 2015 12:10 AM (ELFjX)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 08, 2015 12:10 AM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 08, 2015 12:10 AM (W5DcG)
Posted by: BB Wolf
Get jobs!? LOLing @ the infidel!
Posted by: Achmed al Goatfucker at September 08, 2015 12:10 AM (awspb)
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 08, 2015 12:08 AM (qh617)
But, the children.
Posted by: Der Spiegel at September 08, 2015 12:11 AM (laMCB)
Or have any intention of learning English. Or assimilating. Or finding any sort of work with which to support themselves.
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 08, 2015 12:11 AM (Cze+6)
Posted by: Maetenloch at September 07, 2015 11:30 PM (wqVD1)
I believe the Holy See is taking in 2 families. The popester asked all dioceses (I may have spelled that wrong) to take in a family or two.
Posted by: Daybrother Now in Sterile Packaging at September 08, 2015 12:11 AM (GEK1I)
Posted by: famous last words uttered in a porta-potty at September 08, 2015 12:12 AM (7eC3Q)
Posted by: Daybrother Now in Sterile Packaging at September 08, 2015 12:04 AM (GEK1I)
All my Czeches live in Texas.
Posted by: George Strait, Pilsner Fan at September 08, 2015 12:12 AM (yxw0r)
If even 10% of them were Islamists, they would outnumber the entire German army.
I believe this goes under the category of, not smart.
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 08, 2015 12:08 AM (qh617)
*****
I would go a little further and say that this proves that they are certifiably insane, but I have not seen what our Douche in Chief has up his sleeve for us in this regard yet.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 08, 2015 12:12 AM (VynIP)
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at September 08, 2015 12:12 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 08, 2015 12:00 AM (VviqM)
Yes, let them come and take our jobs, for WAY less in pay...
Let them take over entire companies payrolls (there are IT shops where you will not get a job unless you speak a foreign language, in AMERICA)...
Let them come and get all the benefits that I, and my forefathers built... bankrupting the country... and not pay their F'n dues to this nation...
Question... do you really think they will be LOYAL to this country? Like I, my Father, my Grandfather, and my Son have been (I can go back more generations if you want.... all the way back to Valley Forge... but we fought for the French in the French Indian War... soooo...)...
Posted by: BB Wolf at September 08, 2015 12:13 AM (qh617)
Posted by: Zombie John Lennon at September 08, 2015 12:13 AM (W5DcG)
Posted by: The Shocked Hat at September 08, 2015 12:13 AM (0TXlm)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 07, 2015 11:34 PM (iQIUe)
Actually I agree. Investigate why the parents didn't raise their little scumbag to be something other than a terrorist.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 08, 2015 12:14 AM (+lVUW)
http://tinyurl.com/onuhf4x
http://tinyurl.com/osymtjm
http://tinyurl.com/nqm99uq
http://tinyurl.com/od79pmd
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 07, 2015 11:40 PM (9mTYi)
Pretty car, kind of crusty under the bonnet.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2015 12:14 AM (Lj21F)
fixed
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2015 12:15 AM (3pRHP)
The place to change the policies is in their countries, they should stay there and fight for them.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 08, 2015 12:07 AM (ODxAs)
Easier to fuck up ours than to unfuck theirs.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 08, 2015 12:15 AM (fgSDS)
You will note that they are going to the 2 places in Europe that have the best benefits.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 08, 2015 12:15 AM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Kindltot
-----------------
Viking 'Blood Eagle'
or
Skinned alive, aka Flaying
And my personal favorite (rather humane, I think) being rent asunder
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 08, 2015 12:16 AM (9mTYi)
What's with the change? I liked Mindy though I can adjust to
Emmie.
What gives? Just wondering
Posted by: L, Elle at September 08, 2015 12:16 AM (2x3L+)
Oh, and fuck the Austrians and their kangaroos and wallabies too!
Posted by: joey biden at September 08, 2015 12:16 AM (7eC3Q)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 08, 2015 12:16 AM (rwI+c)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 07, 2015 11:41 PM (VviqM)
Yes, I can't wait to move to Guadalajara and take that non-existent
job waiting for me since Juan the gardener moved to El Norte.
Oh wait, I don't speak Spanish or desire to take a 80% cut in earnings. Guess I'll have to think of another plan.
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at September 08, 2015 12:08 AM (laMCB)
That was a logic hole of Meh's large enough to execute a 180 degree maneuver of the Exxon Valdez. He would have gotten away with it too, if not for meddlesome kids like you. Heh
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 08, 2015 12:17 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: famous last words uttered in a porta-potty at September 08, 2015 12:18 AM (7eC3Q)
I suspect the invaders of Europe are a few degrees tougher, smarter and more dangerous than the ones who threaten the US.
That doesn't mean the ones here get a pass.
I think the border could be solved very cheaply with volunteer militia charged with maintaining an armed watch over every inch of the border. (changes in manning per area can be modified after enough experience).
Surely there'll be people lining up to have a chance to man such a force.
Oh did I mention that it's weapons free 50 yards either side of the border?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 08, 2015 12:18 AM (x3GpS)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 08, 2015 12:14 AM (+lVUW)
-----------
Hypothesis No. 1: Shitty Brit job training programs
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 08, 2015 12:18 AM (75uvI)
And how the Hell do you propose to make other countries, e.g. Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, etc., reciprocate on the open borders? Short of invading them, that is.
That's where your fantasy breaks down.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2015 12:18 AM (Lj21F)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 08, 2015 12:15 AM (ODxAs)
****
Yep. And making a beeline past those that would also offer them relief from their "situation", but not nearly as generously.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 08, 2015 12:18 AM (VynIP)
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc
"how exactly is one drawn and quartered?"
"Cot an hots I guess, probably insist on a roof and a door. I suppose we could just do a digital shot instead of drawing him, in this day and age"
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2015 12:19 AM (3pRHP)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at September 08, 2015 12:19 AM (fgSDS)
---------------------
Right.
Posted by: Transonic fragments at September 08, 2015 12:20 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Transonic fragments at September 08, 2015 12:20 AM (9mTYi)
or
Skinned alive, aka Flaying
And my personal favorite (rather humane, I think) being rent asunder
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc.
Go with the Enumclaw Enforcer: being anally violated by a horse and dying of internal hemorrhaging.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at September 08, 2015 12:20 AM (awspb)
Made me wonder what sort of wildlife programs they would produce. Now not so much.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2015 12:22 AM (3pRHP)
Perhaps, or maybe conditions would improve in poor countries if Americans were allowed to export some of our capitalist innovation elsewhere by traveling freely. Some eager entrepreneurs could really benefit by getting in on the beginning on the cheap.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 08, 2015 12:22 AM (VviqM)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 07, 2015 11:40 PM (Sz+px)
Yep, Obama already got his little, feel good photo op at the white house, so he has no further use for the deserter.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 08, 2015 12:23 AM (+lVUW)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 08, 2015 12:23 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2015 12:24 AM (vsbNu)
Posted by: The Medium Sized Guy at September 08, 2015 12:26 AM (2ToL9)
Posted by: Count de Monet
Better yet, repeal the laws of motion, that way we can get unlimited, free energy. Why hasn't anyone in DC thought of that yet?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at September 08, 2015 12:26 AM (awspb)
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2015 12:27 AM (3pRHP)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 08, 2015 12:22 AM (VviqM)
****
Well sure, because this has not already been happening for many decades? Right?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 08, 2015 12:27 AM (VynIP)
What's with the change? I liked Mindy though I can adjust to
Emmie.
What gives? Just wondering
Posted by: L, Elle at September 08, 2015 12:16 AM (2x3L+)
---
Thanks, L, Elle. I am changing because there are people I would like to invite to the blog who might recognize "Mindy" and I would prefer to maintain my anonymity. Plus, according to the urban dictionary, "Emmie" is quite the complimentary nic.
Posted by: Emmie (formerly Mindy) at September 08, 2015 12:27 AM (qSQG+)
I know, right? And remember, Enumclaw backward is Walcmune.
I crack me up.
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 08, 2015 12:29 AM (Cze+6)
No such thing as transgender--it's a fiction. People claiming to be such are simply males/females with emotional issues.
But biology is immutable.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 07, 2015 11:41 PM (jeCnD)
I so agree that I don't want to hear about it anymore. I don't care at all what these people do to their bodies. I'm just fed up with the media continually shoving it at us. None of my business, don't give a shit about it.
And my biggest problem with Bruce Jenner isn't that he did all that to himself, but that he's shown himself to be a shallow attention whore just like everyone else in that family of plastic surgeried buffoons.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 08, 2015 12:29 AM (+lVUW)
Do you sense failure in your argument or is the Ritalin kicking in?
Head down Son, have faith in your original argument. Flapping like a rag in the wind impresses no-one.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2015 12:29 AM (3pRHP)
Posted by: All Meh Teh at September 08, 2015 12:31 AM (Cze+6)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 08, 2015 12:32 AM (VviqM)
Posted by: All Meh Teh at September 08, 2015 12:32 AM (Cze+6)
Okay, totally get that, Emmie
Posted by: L, Elle at September 08, 2015 12:33 AM (3C84c)
Posted by: All Meh Teh at September 08, 2015 12:34 AM (Cze+6)
In the end, only the sea is full of salt. Have fun getting it out.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2015 12:34 AM (3pRHP)
Posted by: All Meh Teh at September 08, 2015 12:35 AM (Cze+6)
Reyaad Khan, Junaid Hussain and Ruhul Amin: profiles of Isis Britons killed in Syria
http://goo.gl/1tlGeA
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 08, 2015 12:35 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: All Meh Teh at September 08, 2015 12:35 AM (Cze+6)
Sounds totes cool to us!
Posted by: Frank B. Kellogg & Aristide Briand at September 08, 2015 12:36 AM (0TXlm)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 08, 2015 12:36 AM (zyIlW)
when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his
prison, and will go forth and deceive the nations which are in the four
corners of the earth..."
"And it will be YUGE, I tell ya! YUGE!
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at September 08, 2015 12:36 AM (Kucy5)
Posted by: All Meh Teh
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Last week, I bought some thread-sealer that is apparently made from unicorn earwax. That's the only explanation for the cost.
Posted by: Transonic fragments at September 08, 2015 12:37 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: All Meh Teh at September 08, 2015 12:35 AM (Cze+6)
Yep, we can stop all war by getting rid of all these arbitrary lines and borders that only prevent us from visiting our human brothers!
*takes long toke on bong.*
Posted by: Baked Neil Degrasse Tyson at September 08, 2015 12:37 AM (wZ2hu)
Posted by: All Meh Teh at September 08, 2015 12:37 AM (Cze+6)
Posted by: homer simpson at September 08, 2015 12:37 AM (7eC3Q)
Posted by: Kindltot
Better yet, with all of the people who are full of shit, if we can get it out we could have a very lucrative fertilizer business.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at September 08, 2015 12:38 AM (awspb)
Posted by: rickl at September 08, 2015 12:39 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Kenny Bania at September 08, 2015 12:39 AM (JO9+V)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig
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I'm working on a plan to harness nervous energy.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 08, 2015 12:39 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: All Meh Teh at September 08, 2015 12:40 AM (Cze+6)
1) laxatives
2) send them to Washington DC either as elected officials or as Jourolists
3) The Rachel Corrie way, which also adds valuable Phosphorous and Calcium
Posted by: Kindltot at September 08, 2015 12:41 AM (3pRHP)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at September 08, 2015 12:38 AM (awspb)
I like the cut of your jib, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter, sir.
Posted by: All Meh Teh at September 08, 2015 12:41 AM (Cze+6)
Well, the cops in Florence are very nice looking.
Wouldn't mind being hand-cuffed and subdued by one of them.
Oops, I guess the womyn's studies grads aren't going to like that comment.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 08, 2015 12:42 AM (+lVUW)
Posted by: All Meh Teh at September 08, 2015 12:43 AM (Cze+6)
Dogs will get me up early and I can't go back to bed because I've an early work meeting.
Be well all and love those close to you.
T
Posted by: Farmer at September 08, 2015 12:43 AM (o/90i)
if gold is as common as aluminum but way less useful in engineering. Where does the economic improvement come from?
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 12:44 AM (HhwmG)
Posted by: Kindltot
And fills in potholes at little cost to the taxpayers.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at September 08, 2015 12:44 AM (awspb)
Posted by: rickl
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The only problem for me, is that evokes this picture of Emmylou in my mind, and I drift away...
http://tinyurl.com/olwl3hr
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 08, 2015 12:44 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 08, 2015 12:36 AM (zyIlW)
=========
Like I give a shit what you do or do not give a shit about? Get lost.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at September 08, 2015 12:45 AM (iQIUe)
Because gold is worth way more than aluminum, you silly person.
Posted by: All Meh Teh at September 08, 2015 12:46 AM (Cze+6)
I remember a Sampo from Mystery Science Theater 3000.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 08, 2015 12:46 AM (W5DcG)
Not as great as some proponents make it out but I do like humming/singing along with the background music other than "My Country 'Tis of Thee" that always has me humming/singing "God Save the Queen"!
Posted by: andycanuck at September 08, 2015 12:46 AM (7eC3Q)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang
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Most undiplomatic, Bruce.
Acceptable, perhaps, in Olde English, but bad form otherwise old chap.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 08, 2015 12:48 AM (9mTYi)
Faucet, spigot and toilet manufacturing.
Posted by: andycanuck at September 08, 2015 12:48 AM (7eC3Q)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/nok6bm7
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2015 12:48 AM (Lj21F)
Well it would improve electronics I guess.
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 12:48 AM (HhwmG)
I do not wish to. Requiring me to do so based on someone else's decision is tyranny - and is a crime against humanity (forced migration) and is slavery in all aspects less an auction.
You propose kidnapping, enslavement, forced migration, and tyranny because you like to save $20 on getting your gardening done. That is the pinnacle of self-interest turning a person into a monstrous tyrant.
By your incoherent hate-filled blatherings, you support the worst crimes against humanity and Liberty.
Please, get help from a mental health professional because you are a clear danger to innocents around you and should be kept away from humans of all ages.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at September 08, 2015 12:49 AM (z5Hds)
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 12:49 AM (HhwmG)
Acceptable, perhaps, in Olde English, but bad form otherwise old chap.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 08, 2015 12:48 AM (9mTYi)
that was more midcentury ........which is kind of old but not that olde.......
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at September 08, 2015 12:50 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: andycanuck
Watched it on Netflix a few weeks ago. Holds up pretty well. Another good documentary on Netflix that I just finished last night is 14: Diaries of The Great War. Worth a watch, I think.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at September 08, 2015 12:50 AM (awspb)
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 08, 2015 12:51 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: phoenixgirl
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Much like myself.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 08, 2015 12:52 AM (9mTYi)
The Spedo would have been different.
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 12:52 AM (HhwmG)
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 08, 2015 12:53 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at September 08, 2015 12:53 AM (z5Hds)
Posted by: Willy
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More coverage? I mean, it get cold up there.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 08, 2015 12:53 AM (9mTYi)
Where am i requiring you to do anything? Just the opposite, you're free to do what you want, stay here, go elsewhere, it's your decision, no one else's.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 08, 2015 12:54 AM (VviqM)
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 12:54 AM (HhwmG)
Posted by: andycanuck at September 08, 2015 12:54 AM (7eC3Q)
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 08, 2015 12:51 AM (9mTYi)
Apparently sold new in North Carolina, of all places. 49-State car, no catalytic converter. I will probably insure and license it as a collector car, to avoid the necessity of a $20 emission test every year. Which it might not pass, since the EGR system is not working.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2015 12:55 AM (Lj21F)
Alberta - EGR. Well, that might be good or bad. As long as tuning is compensated. Does that have SU's?
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 08, 2015 12:57 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 08, 2015 12:58 AM (1D4Ef)
swelling and overwhelming all of its infrastructure ...
Meh.... that is only the equivalent of about thirty army divisions of poorly trained riflemen.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 08, 2015 12:59 AM (NaeCR)
My first post stands. He/she says that Americans MUST compete by responding to invasion by invading South and Central American republics to "compete".
He/she is not making sense.
We have the right and duty to our nation and our culture to treat all who break our laws as the customs and laws of warfare require.
We have the right and duty to close our borders.
We have the right and duty to either ship who we catch back to their nations - or execute them as non-uniformed invaders - spies, in common terms. It is acceptable and customary to execute invaders without uniforms as spies.
Now - let's talk about the whether or not a bus ticket is more or less expensive than a rope.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at September 08, 2015 01:01 AM (z5Hds)
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 08, 2015 12:57 AM (9mTYi)
Worse. It has Strombergs. Car came with 2 carb kits in boxes, never opened. That was my first chore this last visit. Re-kitted the carbs. Helped a bit. At least they don't piddle gas out the bottom while it runs. Engine has sticky valves. Needs to be driven some, run some Marvel Mystery Oil through it. Floor is all repaired, seats back in, new tires mounted. One of the tires that it came with disintegrated during the summer. Tread mostly blew off it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2015 01:03 AM (Lj21F)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 08, 2015 01:03 AM (EzgxV)
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Hillary suggested boxcars.
Odd thing for her to say.
It's as if she has totalitarian leanings.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 08, 2015 01:04 AM (9mTYi)
where they want, but that will never happen because of nationalism
everywhere, so the pols win and they'll continue winning.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 07, 2015 11:26 PM (VviqM)
Obviously a Trump fan.
/sarc
Remember
You will vote for Jeb! and like it.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 08, 2015 01:04 AM (NaeCR)
Now. Let's discuss following the law, shall we?
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at September 08, 2015 01:07 AM (z5Hds)
No, i'm not, i'm saying allowing people to travel freely would allow honest competition, American workers are under pressure now under the current corrupted system.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 08, 2015 01:08 AM (VviqM)
Trump will find some way to brand his walls so he gets a royalty cut from every border wall built around the globe.
Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at September 08, 2015 01:08 AM (htXhe)
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at September 08, 2015 01:07 AM (z5Hds)
****
That would be awesome. Agreed.
Who in politics is currently discussing doing this?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 08, 2015 01:09 AM (VynIP)
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 08, 2015 01:10 AM (9mTYi)
Maet:
Has "Tom Sawyer" appeared yet? Perhaps you might prepare.
It seems that the Italian Court of Cassation has finally tossed out the Amanda Knox conviction:
http://news.yahoo.com/italy-top-court-knox-conviction-based-poor-case-125434208.html
... and they apply a severe beating to the Prosecution.
Posted by: Arbalest at September 08, 2015 01:10 AM (FlRtG)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 08, 2015 01:08 AM (VviqM)
And I'm sympathetic to this libertarian argument. Unfortunately I don't see how it works in the real world, where governments of all stripes interfere endlessly in the labor markets and distort them to such a degree that market forces aren't really at work at all.
Plus, like Maet said upthread -- it would be culturally... difficult. Different people and different cultures are very different.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 08, 2015 01:11 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: cthulhu
Because mohammedanism instills cowardice, hedonism, and cruelty as virtues.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at September 08, 2015 01:11 AM (awspb)
Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at September 08, 2015 01:08 AM (htXhe)
****
Good old American innovation at its finest, baby. Bring it.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 08, 2015 01:11 AM (VynIP)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 08, 2015 01:08 AM (VviqM)
And I'm sympathetic to this libertarian argument. Unfortunately I don't see how it works in the real world, where governments of all stripes interfere endlessly in the labor markets and distort them to such a degree that market forces aren't really at work at all.
Plus, like Maet said upthread -- it would be culturally... difficult. Different people and different cultures are very different.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 08, 2015 01:11 AM (AkOaV)
Every time I see you, I think...."what was his old handle?"
Posted by: cthulhu at September 08, 2015 01:13 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: buzzion at September 08, 2015 01:14 AM (zt+N6)
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"Trump Tower" might come to imply spotlights and machine guns.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 08, 2015 01:14 AM (9mTYi)
travel freely would allow honest competition, American workers are under
pressure now under the current corrupted system.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 08, 2015 01:08 AM (VviqM)
Free migration absolutely can not work in a world where comprehensive welfare systems exist. People will simply migrate to the countries with the most generous benefits, and the numbers that do so will sponge them to death in short order. We're experiencing that...
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 08, 2015 01:14 AM (J+mig)
Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 08, 2015 01:15 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: cthulhu
Because mohammedanism instills cowardice, hedonism, and cruelty as virtues.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at September 08, 2015 01:11 AM (awspb)
It was a rhetorical question.....and one which has a more general answer -- "Because
Posted by: cthulhu at September 08, 2015 01:16 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 08, 2015 01:16 AM (NaeCR)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 08, 2015 01:16 AM (EzgxV)
Authoritarianism of any stripe requires a supine population without any means of righting itself. People get used to depending on outside protection, instead of providing it themselves.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 08, 2015 01:17 AM (J+mig)
benefits, and the numbers that do so will sponge them to death in short
order. We're experiencing that...>>>
See the flow of welfare recipients to blue cities in the US with the best benefits. And crime rates.
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 01:17 AM (HhwmG)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 08, 2015 01:16 AM (NaeCR)
*****
Otherwise known as "invasion".
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 08, 2015 01:17 AM (VynIP)
"Free migration" is why armies have always existed.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 08, 2015 01:16 AM (NaeCR)
And borders. People forget that nations belong to their citizens, and that governments are instituted first and foremost to protect the rights of those citizens, including property. A government that elevates the interests of foreign nationals and international megacorporations above its own citizens is anathema to its very reason for existence and must be reformed or abolished.
Which is exactly why even though I understand the Libertarian position, and even sympathize with the emotional appeal, I reject it.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 08, 2015 01:20 AM (J+mig)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 08, 2015 01:13 AM (EzgxV)
I've had a bunch over the years, this current incarnation didn't start here at the 'hq.
I'll probably come up with something more original at some point.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 08, 2015 01:22 AM (AkOaV)
and even sympathize with the emotional appeal, I reject it.>>>
The up arrows that I don't know how to do.
This
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 01:22 AM (HhwmG)
Posted by: cthulhu
Point taken, but mohammedanism also devalues females. A guy raised under a different authoritarian system (Nazi Germany, Soviet Union) probably would have taken care of his wife and daughters before saving his own ass, but as a mohammedan he most likely views his wife and daughters as nothing but holes to stick his dick into, not as real people.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at September 08, 2015 01:22 AM (awspb)
No one but me. Some seem to hint, but none come out and explicitly teach the way that sovereignty, the rules and customs of War, and relations between Nations (International Law dating from the post-French Revolutionary period in the 19th Century) interact and restrict the crypto-communistic partial war treaties of the 20th Century that most people think are the ONLY sources of international law (United Nations treaties & Geneva Convention(s))
Control over a nation's borders are intrinsic to their legitimacy. A question posed by a foreign nation through an invasion of their citizens into another is an act of war. An invasion does not require tanks or artillery. A man with an empty belly, aimed at a frontier by their country or leaders with the company of a handful of others is an attempt to overthrow the legitimacy of a nation's rule.
Mexico has declared war on the US.
By teaching their people that "reconquista" is a thing to be accomplished- in the lessons taught in their goverment schools - the Goverment of Mexico is guilty of violating the Treaty of Guadalupe Hildalgo of 1949 - and in so doing has ensured that legally, a state of War exists yet again between our two nations.
Mexico must be punished.
All her nationals must be returned.
She must be made to pay reparations - I prefer Baja California entire. It must be vacated and given to the US to dispose of. I recommend giving it to Israel.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at September 08, 2015 01:22 AM (z5Hds)
travel freely would allow honest competition, American workers are under
pressure now under the current corrupted system.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 08, 2015 01:08 AM (VviqM)
In case you missed it, you can find American (and some Canadian and Euro) entrepreneurs in many South and Central American countries. But the entrenched culture of corruption that is so common there makes it hard for them to run an honest business.
Free movement of people alone will solve nothing. And if CentroAmerica cleans up its culture of corruption, then their economies will blossom, and their underclass will no longer see a benefit in beating feet for the USA.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2015 01:23 AM (Lj21F)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2015 01:23 AM (Lj21F)
Plus, it's illegal for US companies to bribe foreign governments. Which is the only way to do business in many third world countries.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 08, 2015 01:24 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 08, 2015 01:20 AM (J+mig)
*******
Agreed. If said "immigrants" were like those of the past, coming here to assimilate and build lives as Americans, this would make sense.
As they are not, and they are bringing their own Nationalism and culture with them while expecting us to cater to same, close the border now.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 08, 2015 01:25 AM (VynIP)
Shell was identified as a large US oil company.
Not sure how the Dutch and Brits feel about that.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 08, 2015 01:26 AM (AkOaV)
All her nationals must be returned.
She must be made to pay reparations - I prefer Baja California entire. It must be vacated and given to the US to dispose of. I recommend giving it to Israel.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at September 08, 2015 01:22 AM (z5Hds)
****
I agree. Now, gotta get the overlords talking about this. My current estimation of success with this strategy?
Somewhat less than zero.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 08, 2015 01:30 AM (VynIP)
Shell was identified as a large US oil company.
Not sure how the Dutch and Brits feel about that.
Posted by: mynewhandle at September 08, 2015 01:26 AM (AkOaV)
Layers and layers of fact checking.
Posted by: buzzion at September 08, 2015 01:30 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: buzzion
Layers and layers...just like how they built the West Bank/Gaza Bridge.
Posted by: Vox at September 08, 2015 01:34 AM (awspb)
assimilate and build lives as Americans, this would make sense.
>>>
I kinda get being proud or interested in where your forefathers came from. But none of those first gen immigrants of the past would have put their country's flag on their house or vehicle. They knew what they were running from and where they were running to and why.
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 01:34 AM (HhwmG)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 08, 2015 01:36 AM (/Ikm2)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 08, 2015 01:37 AM (zyIlW)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 08, 2015 01:37 AM (zyIlW)
Posted by: MAx at September 08, 2015 01:38 AM (LAliD)
As they cross the border?
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 01:40 AM (HhwmG)
Lord, you know it's true
I've done more for you
Than your daddy has ever done
I give you my jelly roll
and he ain't give you none...
Posted by: mojo at September 08, 2015 01:41 AM (OmBeX)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 08, 2015 01:41 AM (/Ikm2)
Posted by: MAx at September 08, 2015 01:38 AM (LAliD)
****
I am sure it is on the Dem wishlist, but do not see this being pushed as a priority at this time.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 08, 2015 01:42 AM (n4WTI)
Shoot me an email if you will, as regards your's and Chi's forthcoming visits to my AO?
I'm just recently back from Orlando, arriving home after an 18.5 hr, straight-through drive. The only thing keeping me cogent is this here glass of bourbon by my side, and the fact that my pillow is but 3 ft. away, and beckons.
But still, logistics need be aligned and resolved.
I'm looking forward to y'all visiting.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at September 08, 2015 01:43 AM (McRlu)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at September 08, 2015 01:44 AM (zyIlW)
My kindle had some sort of hardware failure, and a 15 minute phone call had them shipping a replacement under warranty at no charge.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 08, 2015 01:44 AM (1D4Ef)
341 Not for lack of desire...
Kerry DID sign the UN treaty on small arms...tho it wasn't in the papers
Posted by: MAx at September 08, 2015 01:44 AM (LAliD)
Not cooth, but am an EE. (Flip a coin if you should run away screaming)
What sort of electrical question?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 08, 2015 01:45 AM (1D4Ef)
Posted by: Max
Hey! Nobody has done more than me to ensure they have access to the latest and best firearms available. Oh wait..You mean your guns. Yeah, we're coming for those.
Posted by: Eric Holder at September 08, 2015 01:46 AM (awspb)
Posted by: The Hungry Hat at September 08, 2015 01:47 AM (0TXlm)
Black means hot unless it's negative and sometimes ground.
Other than that, keep the smoke inside.
Posted by: MAx at September 08, 2015 01:48 AM (LAliD)
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 01:49 AM (HhwmG)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 08, 2015 01:36 AM (/Ikm2)
Around about. Whassup?
[....and hiya, SMFH!]
Posted by: cthulhu at September 08, 2015 01:49 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: MAx at September 08, 2015 01:50 AM (LAliD)
Kerry DID sign the UN treaty on small arms...tho it wasn't in the papers
Posted by: MAx at September 08, 2015 01:44 AM (LAliD)
****
With zero discernable current impact. The one thing even the most Leftist Pols are loathe to do is try a full on assault on gun ownership.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 08, 2015 01:50 AM (n4WTI)
Posted by: mojo at September 08, 2015 01:52 AM (OmBeX)
Posted by: MAx at September 08, 2015 01:52 AM (LAliD)
Posted by: MAx at September 08, 2015 01:50 AM (LAliD)
*****
Haven't been one for a long time, but went from car porter, to Mechanic, to Service Writer, to Service Manager. Took about 5 years from '82 to '87.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 08, 2015 01:54 AM (n4WTI)
Kerry DID sign the UN treaty on small arms...tho it wasn't in the papers
Posted by: MAx at September 08, 2015 01:44 AM (LAliD)
****
With zero discernable current impact. The one thing even the most Leftist Pols are loathe to do is try a full on assault on gun ownership.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 08, 2015 01:50 AM (n4WTI)
Oh, they'd love to, no doubt......the problem is that they have ZERO remaining credibility on the issue. They've consistently lied over decades without telling one slight marginal tiny bit of truth. So when they go, "it's minor, it won't hurt a bit", the NRA and everyone else with two functioning neurons goes nuclear on them.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 08, 2015 01:55 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Sinalco at September 08, 2015 01:55 AM (wmGv+)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 08, 2015 01:55 AM (1D4Ef)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 08, 2015 01:55 AM (1D4Ef)
That's pretty general. Where?
Posted by: cthulhu at September 08, 2015 01:57 AM (EzgxV)
Heard about it from a friend, so now I have something to check out next year's Labor Day, assuming CA doesn't go SMOD on me ... yet.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 08, 2015 02:00 AM (1D4Ef)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 07, 2015 11:34 PM (rwI+c)
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When?
Posted by: The Waco Kid at September 08, 2015 02:00 AM (EARfr)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 08, 2015 01:45 AM (1D4Ef)
3 nights ago, I noticed the tile floor in the master bathroom was warm. It sits directly over my tenants bathroom. Said tenant leaves the bathroom fan running for hours. It's been running for 13 hours as of now. I suspect he is also leaving the heat lamp running. He has been spoken to about the fan not being designed to do this several times. I'm scared shitless he's going to burn my house down. It is normal for me to feel heat coming up through the tile floor especially if the shit's been running for hours? Could it wiring issues? Should I call am electrician tomorrow morning & get him out ASAP?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 08, 2015 02:01 AM (/Ikm2)
Posted by: Sinalco at September 08, 2015 02:01 AM (wmGv+)
Here is "House of the Rising Sun" as played by a Korean hottie on an electric violin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ1D1AJu9CA
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 08, 2015 02:03 AM (0TXlm)
The heat lamp is installed in the ceiling fan?
Who in their right mind would leave a heat lamp on in l.a. in this weather???
How old is the building/wiring???
Is the circuit properly fused or circuit breaker protected?
Posted by: MAx at September 08, 2015 02:05 AM (LAliD)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 08, 2015 01:55 AM (EzgxV)
*****
True enough, and their bullshit between campaign stances and legislative actions has killed this issue.
I am no longer an NRA member, but I appreciate the fact that they never relent on the issue, and will openly take those down who wish to.
Main reason I no longer belong is that they were worse than AARP about fund rasing. I was already a Life Member. Leve me the hell alone. But, Noooooooo
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 08, 2015 02:05 AM (n4WTI)
Posted by: Arbalest at September 08, 2015 02:05 AM (FlRtG)
Put the heat lamp on a timer switch, 15 minutes max. And tell the tenant that if he defeats the timer, his ass is on the street.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2015 02:06 AM (Lj21F)
Posted by: MAx at September 08, 2015 02:08 AM (LAliD)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 08, 2015 01:45 AM (1D4Ef)
3 nights ago, I noticed the tile floor in the master bathroom was warm. It sits directly over my tenants bathroom. Said tenant leaves the bathroom fan running for hours. It's been running for 13 hours as of now. I suspect he is also leaving the heat lamp running. He has been spoken to about the fan not being designed to do this several times. I'm scared shitless he's going to burn my house down. It is normal for me to feel heat coming up through the tile floor especially if the shit's been running for hours? Could it wiring issues? Should I call am electrician tomorrow morning & get him out ASAP?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 08, 2015 02:01 AM (/Ikm2)
This falls into the category of "manageable risk". It's likely to be tolerable, but the information you have doesn't rule out serious problems (and, yes, burning the house down is potential).
Unfortunately, you're going to have to dig to accurately asses where you are. Was that bath permitted/inspected construction? Is the fixture being used properly (if it's for two 60-watt bulbs and it's got two 100's, you're at risk). You should inspect and consider quite a bit before you call an electrician.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 08, 2015 02:10 AM (EzgxV)
This is basically the answer I was going to give. But went looking for this.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/qg82kmj
Have the electrician install one of these.
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 02:10 AM (HhwmG)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 08, 2015 02:01 AM (/Ikm2)
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Generally, warm is OK in terms of electrical use. Is their service on your dime? If not, may want to chill and wait a little bit to see what shakes out.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 08, 2015 02:10 AM (n4WTI)
Posted by: MAx at September 08, 2015 02:10 AM (LAliD)
Is it the entire tile floor feeling warm, or is there a particular hot spot?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 08, 2015 02:11 AM (1D4Ef)
Posted by: MAx at September 08, 2015 02:10 AM (LAliD)
*****
Just how are those schemes working out for them in terms of real life compliance?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 08, 2015 02:14 AM (n4WTI)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2015 02:06 AM (Lj21F)
Is that something the electrician could install, up in the ceiling where he can't get to it? I also don't want to have to replace the fan because he burnt it out from running it 24/7
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 08, 2015 02:14 AM (/Ikm2)
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 02:14 AM (HhwmG)
376 One could ask the same about laws against speeding and drug use...
I've seen estimates of 25-30% compliance. Those who didn't comply are felons now. Is that serious enough???
The problem is the fact that the laws passed and are there is just a trap waiting for otherwise innocent folks to fall into.
Posted by: MAx at September 08, 2015 02:18 AM (LAliD)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2015 02:18 AM (lXn/z)
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 02:14 AM (HhwmG)
She asked me because we've met, and she figured I'd give her a thoughtful answer.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 08, 2015 02:19 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: MAx at September 08, 2015 02:20 AM (LAliD)
I've seen estimates of 25-30% compliance. Those who didn't comply are felons now. Is that serious enough???
The problem is the fact that the laws passed and are there is just a trap waiting for otherwise innocent folks to fall into.
Posted by: MAx at September 08, 2015 02:18 AM (LAliD)
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Speeding is not a felony, unless you really push it. Not all drug s are either. We are pretty far afield from the original discussion, so Ima gonna just wrap this one here and tell you to be well.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 08, 2015 02:22 AM (n4WTI)
And you did. I did not think of who installed it or if the wrong bulbs were later put in. Maybe mot thoughtful instead of best as more appropriate.
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 02:22 AM (HhwmG)
I know. right!?!
Posted by: Mr. Owl & His Tootsie Roll Pop... at September 08, 2015 02:22 AM (qOsoH)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 08, 2015 02:11 AM (1D4Ef)
Main spot is directly over the heat lamp. BUT the whole floor was warm an hour ago, now it's down to barely warm in that one spot. And involvement varies, from one spot up to the while floor.
Coothie, it's all permitted & inspected. All the baths have the same heatlamp fixture, that takes 120w bulbs. (Hard to read on the one in my bath & I don't see any more spares)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 08, 2015 02:23 AM (/Ikm2)
383 I was referring to everyone who didn't comply with the confiscation laws being felons.
Which is very true.
And, if caught, means you lose your legal right to own firearms.
And vote.
Posted by: MAx at September 08, 2015 02:23 AM (LAliD)
Posted by: MAx at September 08, 2015 02:20 AM (LAliD)
Your dog is nearby?
Seriously, there is no aspect of domestic infrastructure that cannot be abused to the point of danger -- in order to accurately assess risk, you need to investigate and understand the sort of abuse taking place.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 08, 2015 02:23 AM (EzgxV)
Dam Keyboard is skipping letters.
Maybe most thoughtful instead of best was more appropriate.
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 02:24 AM (HhwmG)
Posted by: Positive Waves at September 08, 2015 02:25 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 08, 2015 02:26 AM (n4WTI)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 08, 2015 02:11 AM (1D4Ef)
Main spot is directly over the heat lamp. BUT the whole floor was warm an hour ago, now it's down to barely warm in that one spot. And involvement varies, from one spot up to the while floor.
Coothie, it's all permitted & inspected. All the baths have the same heatlamp fixture, that takes 120w bulbs. (Hard to read on the one in my bath & I don't see any more spares)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 08, 2015 02:23 AM (/Ikm2)
If permitted and inspected, the fixture (if loaded with appropriate bulbs) should be safe as installed. You can put a timer on the heatlamp for convenience, but the inspectors should assure some level of safety.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 08, 2015 02:28 AM (EzgxV)
392
"If permitted and inspected, the fixture (if loaded with appropriate bulbs) should be safe as installed. You can put a timer on the heatlamp for convenience, but the inspectors should assure some level of safety."
Yip
Posted by: MAx at September 08, 2015 02:30 AM (LAliD)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 08, 2015 02:23 AM (
Well, other than what I can observe from the outside, in not going to get too far. He's already lying about letting the fan run incessantly. All I can do is look outside to see if entire unit, including bath, are lit up like Christmas trees 24/7. Which it is appearing they are. It sounds like an electrician is going to be my best bet. If there are no wiring issues and the lamp is not malfunctioning, maybe he can install aop's killswitch & scare him about leaving shit running
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 08, 2015 02:30 AM (/Ikm2)
warm an hour ago, now it's down to barely warm in that one spot. And
involvement varies, from one spot up to the while floor.
Sorry to ask the obvious, but sunlight is ruled out?
The heat lamp sounds like a more promising point of investigation.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 08, 2015 02:32 AM (1D4Ef)
Posted by: Positive Waves at September 08, 2015 02:33 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: cthulhu at September 08, 2015 02:23 AM (
Well, other than what I can observe from the outside, in not going to get too far. He's already lying about letting the fan run incessantly. All I can do is look outside to see if entire unit, including bath, are lit up like Christmas trees 24/7. Which it is appearing they are. It sounds like an electrician is going to be my best bet. If there are no wiring issues and the lamp is not malfunctioning, maybe he can install aop's killswitch & scare him about leaving shit running
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 08, 2015 02:30 AM (/Ikm2)
It is unlikely that running a fan would give rise to a safety issue -- but people frequently use oversized bulbs in fixtures, and that's dangerous as all hell.
Posted by: cthulhu at September 08, 2015 02:33 AM (EzgxV)
BBD:
Is your rental unit on a separate electrical utility meter (i.e., a separate bill from the power company)?
If not (and it's likely a very costly effort), then perhaps it should be.
Running lights and fans for fun should have financial consequences.
Posted by: Arbalest at September 08, 2015 02:33 AM (FlRtG)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 08, 2015 02:32 AM (1D4Ef)
Yep. First noticed it walking across the tile floor barefoot, at night.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 08, 2015 02:34 AM (/Ikm2)
398 The best part about not being on a seperate meter is that you can run the heatlamp and the a.c. full blast at the same time all day long.
Also cali is one of the worst in terms of tenant's "rights"
Posted by: MAx at September 08, 2015 02:37 AM (LAliD)
http://tinyurl.com/pdnr6xj
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 08, 2015 02:38 AM (OSs/l)
Posted by: MAx at September 08, 2015 02:38 AM (LAliD)
If not (and it's likely a very costly effort), then perhaps it should be.
Running lights and fans for fun should have financial consequences.
Posted by: Arbalest at September 08, 2015 02:33 AM (FlRtG)
No, it's not on a separate meter. I'll ask the electrician, but I'm pretty sure that would be super costly & involve major requiring. I informed him when he moved in that any significant spikes in water & power would be passed in to him. I am curious what the next bill is going to look like. And back to separate meter, I hope this rental thing is going to not last more than a couple years & it can go back to being a guest bedroom.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 08, 2015 02:39 AM (/Ikm2)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 08, 2015 02:14 AM (/Ikm2)
Look at WillyJ's link, reproduced below. You can buy this timer at any hardware store or Home Depot. As easy to install as a light switch, only 2 wires.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/qg82kmj
Have the electrician install one of these.
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 02:10 AM (HhwmG)
Some of those wellsite shacks, the builders put the exhaust fans on timers, which is entirely reasonable if the fan is in bathroom service, and not entirely unreasonable for a kitchen exhaust fan, either. But it is eminently unreasonable for a fan used to exhaust potentially-toxic vapors from a working space. So my first order of business, upon encountering such a setup, is to replace the timer with a regular switch, or failing that, put both wires on the same terminal of the timer. Because my safety is at stake. And I'm not paying for the heat, either.
Meant to post this ten minutes ago, but my ISP or maybe the damn Win7 is giving me grief. Keep losing Internet connection.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2015 02:40 AM (8p7pX)
http://tinyurl.com/pdnr6xj
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 08, 2015 02:38 AM (OSs/l)
***
He is not reliably Conservative. Now, off to read the article...m
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 08, 2015 02:41 AM (n4WTI)
If not (and it's likely a very costly effort), then perhaps it should be.
Running lights and fans for fun should have financial consequences.
Posted by: Arbalest at September 08, 2015 02:33 AM (FlRtG)
No, it's not on a separate meter. I'll ask the electrician, but I'm pretty sure that would be super costly & involve major requiring. I informed him when he moved in that any significant spikes in water & power would be passed in to him. I am curious what the next bill is going to look like. And back to separate meter, I hope this rental thing is going to not last more than a couple years & it can go back to being a guest bedroom.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 08, 2015 02:39 AM (/Ikm2)
How are you fixed for crawl-space?
Posted by: Arsenic and Old Lace at September 08, 2015 02:41 AM (EzgxV)
Posted by: Arsenic and Old Lace at September 08, 2015 02:41 AM (EzgxV)
The face-sized spiders have claimed that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2015 02:44 AM (8p7pX)
Definitely check out cthulhu's points, but is probably more of a behavioral/economic fix on tenant's wasteful behavior than an electrical safety one. Is self-resolving problem if you can make him pay for his own excesses.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 08, 2015 02:45 AM (1D4Ef)
Posted by: Arsenic and Old Lace>>>
The Elderberry wine ladies had a full height basement.
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 02:46 AM (HhwmG)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 08, 2015 02:45 AM (1D4Ef)
Ok, thanks all. I gotta try to sleep it being a school night!
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 08, 2015 02:51 AM (/Ikm2)
Posted by: Epobirs at September 08, 2015 02:51 AM (IdCqF)
I love these purity tests.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 08, 2015 02:54 AM (OSs/l)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at September 08, 2015 02:56 AM (4vXIq)
http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Bathroom-Replacement-Electric-C01575/dp/B000ZI93PU
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2015 02:56 AM (eNeRn)
which is 75 watts. But that might be their stall current rating, with
normal running being less. But still small potatoes compared to heat
lamp, and the fan motor is in the air stream, so it is unlikely to be
the source of the perceived heat.
>>>
Being they are encased in a metal box that should not contact the floor above and in the air stream. If the fan is giving off enough heat to feel in the floor above something other than constant on is wrong.
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 03:03 AM (HhwmG)
Um, heat lamp + fan though. So the fan motor may not be getting hot because of air flow, but the heat lamp is going to warm the air. Could it be enough that the air is warming up the ductwork for the fan that its bleeding through the floor?
Posted by: buzzion at September 08, 2015 03:07 AM (zt+N6)
Or they could stay home and build a functional civilization with industries of its own to sustain a modern way of life. And if they can't, tough shit. We don't have much use for cultures that can't hack the modern civilization challenge.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 08, 2015 03:13 AM (IdCqF)
Posted by: buzzion at September 08, 2015 03:07 AM (zt+N6)
Heat lamp transfers heat to its socket by conduction, and thence to the box. Box gets warm, heats subfloor above by radiation and convection. Fan draws air through itself, may act very slightly to cool heat lamp bulbs and box, too, but the airflow mostly avoids the hot areas where the sockets for the heat lamps are.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2015 03:13 AM (g7EOK)
because of air flow, but the heat lamp is going to warm the air. Could
it be enough that the air is warming up the ductwork for the fan that
its bleeding through the floor?>>>
A 100 watt light bulb in a regular pot will give off as much upward moving heat as a normal heat lamp. Because most heat lamps are directional and infrared or radiant. If regular heat lamp bulbs caused fires DIY chicken coops across the country would be lighting the skies.
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 03:13 AM (HhwmG)
Posted by: buzzion at September 08, 2015 03:17 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 03:13 AM (HhwmG)
bebes indicated that the fixtures contained two 120-watt heat lamps; small reflector floods, I guess. I believe the fixtures intended for heat lamps are double-walled, with an air space between. I wonder if the heat lamps and fan are on the same or separate switches? Because sometimes circumstances arise when one would like to run the fan, but not the heat.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 08, 2015 03:18 AM (g7EOK)
Also, check out the movie 'Shallow Grave.' Early Ewan McGregor and Christopher Eccleston. A troublesome tenant is just the beginning.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 08, 2015 03:19 AM (IdCqF)
Well I'm not saying its going to be hot enough to cause a fire.>>>
No you didn't but the original question was about safety. And I guess I just ran with it like a politician. Sorry.
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 03:19 AM (HhwmG)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at September 08, 2015 02:41 AM (n4WTI)
What the fuckitty fuck?!?
If Dennis Prager is not considered a reliable conservative, then the term has no goddamn meaning. Unless the meaning is now agrees with MWNP 100%. In which none of us are reliable conservatives.
Posted by: Maetenloch at September 08, 2015 03:23 AM (wqVD1)
small reflector floods, I guess. I believe the fixtures intended for
heat lamps are double-walled, with an air space between. I wonder if the
heat lamps and fan are on the same or separate switches? Because
sometimes circumstances arise when one would like to run the fan, but
not the heat.>>>
If I installed a regular light bulb between the floor joists below my bathroom I'm sure the tiles in that area would feel warm comparatively. She is not likely in danger if all the correct safe fixtures where installed correctly. But the dick she is renting to is likely just leaving things on because he is not paying for them.
Yet.
Posted by: Willy J. at September 08, 2015 03:25 AM (HhwmG)
If Dennis Prager is not considered a reliable conservative, then the term has no goddamn meaning. Unless the meaning is now agrees with MWNP 100%. In which none of us are reliable conservatives.
Posted by: Maetenloch at September 08, 2015 03:23 AM (wqVD1)
****
Gotta apologize here, you are correct and I am wrong. I went off 1/4 cocked.I was thinking more Michael Medved. My mistake.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at September 08, 2015 03:45 AM (cygkw)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at September 08, 2015 03:45 AM (cygkw)
Ah okay...never mind then...understood.
I'm recalling the flying monkeys now. Don't worry - I'm pretty sure they'll check their messages before they make the attack runs...
Posted by: Maetenloch at September 08, 2015 04:07 AM (wqVD1)
I will search back to find the link but there is a lot of crap on the internet about him.
Good morning horde
Posted by: skip at September 08, 2015 04:21 AM (JghBF)
An Medved does get wishy washes at times but a lot of conservatives do a problem I see.
Posted by: skip at September 08, 2015 04:32 AM (JghBF)
Posted by: Spun and Murky at September 08, 2015 04:50 AM (4DCSq)
Americans ARE allowed to travel freely.
You really haven't thought this stuff through, have you?
Posted by: Epobirs at September 08, 2015 04:53 AM (IdCqF)
Are you sure it's a heat lamp and not, say, a grow light? Unusual power draws have been the vital clue that got many suburban pot growers busted.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 08, 2015 05:33 AM (IdCqF)
Regarding Germany ad Syria, I am reminded of Alois Brunner, the SS officer who fled Germany via to Rat Line to Syria. He was Adolf Eichmann's henchman and was responsible for sending 140,000 Jews to the gas chamber. In Syria he wasted granted asylum by the ruling Baath Party and paid for his expertise in torture and interrogation.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, disciple of Dionysus at September 08, 2015 05:40 AM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: Maetenloch at September 08, 2015 04:07 AM (wqVD***
Lol. Apparently all good. They are both on the same channel in my market. Accordingly, I never listen.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at September 08, 2015 05:42 AM (cygkw)
Germans have spent the past seventy years feeling badly about themselves and are determined to take this opportunity to feel good about themselves.
The refugees have given the Germans the sort of frisson of good feeling ...
exactly. The Germans assuage their guilt (which by the way is shallow and symbolic, what many think they are supposed to feel) by saving refugees who are certain to continue the jew hatred. The irony is stunning.
Posted by: charleston at September 08, 2015 05:49 AM (Hfp3A)
the way is shallow and symbolic, what many think they are supposed to
feel) by saving refugees who are certain to continue the jew hatred. The
irony is stunning.
Posted by: charleston at September 08, 2015 05:49 AM (Hfp3A)
The cultivation of guilt is the main means by which the Neoliberals have built their power. In their warped worldview, if someone has power (or wealth, or status), they took it from someone else. Shaming people for crimes they are not responsible for, to manipulate their emotional responses is what they do.
This is wholly ironic, since in the Neoliberal worldview, there is no right or wrong, and everything is shades of gray. They feel no guilt, they only abuse it to advance their agenda.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at September 08, 2015 05:56 AM (J+mig)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 08, 2015 06:19 AM (VPLuQ)
Americans ARE allowed to travel freely."
If that's the case, why do republicans keep telling people Mexicos immigration laws are tougher than America's?
Posted by: All Teh Meh at September 08, 2015 06:39 AM (VviqM)
Posted by: bjk at September 08, 2015 07:54 AM (nReQz)
Posted by: Hikaru at September 08, 2015 08:04 AM (9TK8E)
It seems to me that if SC decides that the government is not allowed to simply suck up the dues for the unions, that would be it and any laws that allow that within the US would be similarly immediately unconstitutional.
Posted by: Former NCO at September 08, 2015 08:19 AM (SAANH)
Since we no longer are capable of winning Middle Eastern wars, yes, nuke our neighbors to the south and then return the illegals there to start a new country.
Posted by: Adios at September 08, 2015 09:49 AM (pq97T)
Americans ARE allowed to travel freely.
You really haven't thought this stuff through, have you?"
Walk into Mexico from an area not designated a checkpoint and see how long your happy ass stays out of jail.
Nuke Mexico!
Posted by: Adios at September 08, 2015 09:52 AM (pq97T)
Every reader has some idea of the early history of other countries which have been settled. I suggest that he recall all known instances. If he should attempt to seek but one instance of a country settled with the consent of those born there he will not succeed. The inhabitants (no matter whether they are civilized or savages) have always put up a stubborn fight.
The leaders of Europe seem intent on setting a precedent in this area.
Posted by: Rich Rostrom at September 08, 2015 04:39 PM (YkV15)
Gates of Vienna
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna
There was a day when Europeans gave a darn about whether they and their children would be free or slaves of a tyrant.
I guess they're choosing serfdom again.
Posted by: setnaffa at September 09, 2015 03:23 PM (BtRXi)
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