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French-American Hero of Thalys Terror Train Attack Giving Interviews, Looks To be Healing Well
Mark Moogalian was the guy who reportedly yanked the AK away from the terrorist.
This interview resolves a lot of questions for me. There were reports that an unidentified Frenchman, said to be an off-duty trainman, was the first to engage the terrorist, and that a French-American pulled his gun away from him. If claims that a man heard the chuck-chuck sound of the loading of a gun in the bathroom and investigated are true, then "Damien" must be the man who did this. But I don't know if that part is true; "Damien" hasn't spoken yet. I began to doubt those reports because the timeline I imagined, based on fragmentary reporting, had the Americans acting first. But Moogalian's account clears most things up. The Americans did not act first -- though they did act last (that is, they took out the terrorist, put him down, and hogtied his ass). The initial reports about a French guy struggling with the terrorist, and the French-American -- now identified as Mark Moogalian, a professor of English at the Sorbonne, married to, I think, a Frenchwoman -- did in fact pull the AK 47 away from the terrorist. He didn't just grab it; he actually disarmed the terrorist. Partially, and for a few seconds, anyway.I'll translate some of the interview, but here's the timeline: The unidentified man -- who Moogalian calls "Damien" and says is a French banker, not a trainman -- in fact did struggle with the terrorist first. (This is now published so there's not much use in my suppressing these details; it's even possible Moogalian is offering disinformation to protect "Damien's" real name and occupation.) Moogalian saw the struggle through the doors separating the train cars. He told his wife "get out of here" and got up to help. While the terrorist fought with this man I'll call, as Moogalian does, "Damien," Moogalian grabbed his AK away from him and began to run away with it. He cried out "I've got the gun!" as he ran. However, Moogalian says sheepishly that he didn't have much "experience" with this sort of thing, and it did not occur to him the terrorist might have another gun. In fact, the terrorist had a pistol besides the AK (a Luger I think I read) and he shot Moogalian as he ran away with the gun. The bullet went through his shoulder and out the front side of his neck. He crumpled to the ground, bleeding profusely. The terrorist, we can assume (though Moogalian does not say), must have shot or otherwise taken "Damien" out of the fight. Because now the terrorist began walking towards Moogalian in order to retrieve his AK. At this point Moogalian felt himself getting weaker and weaker, but didn't think he'd get the courtesy of being allowed to bleed to death -- because he was pretty sure the terrorist would put a bullet in his head as he retrieved the AK from his unmoving body. And then Stone, Skarlatos, and Sandler came flying out of nowhere. The timeline now makes perfect sense. The early reports were correct; they were just fragmented and disjointed. The interview is here; below, some translation. Why did you make the decision to intervene when you saw, from your seat at the rear of car 12, a strange scene, on the other side of the doors? Moogalian: I was reading on article on my cellphone when i saw this man enter the bathrooms with his big wheeled suitcase, I found it strange that he was in there for so long. Then I got up when I saw, without really seeing it clearly, that something was happening, that two men seemed to be fighting one another, one of them carrying something that looked like a gun. My brain didn't want to deal with this information but at the same time I said to myself "This man is going to kill everyone. I have to do something." You had at the same time the reflex to tell your wife to get out of there? I turned towards Isabelle [his wife] who, herself, was still seated, and I told her "get out of here." This must be serious. I wanted more than anything to protect her. She saw in my face that I wasn't joking. And then, I don't know how, I managed to pull the Kalcahinikov from the man.
Did you exchange words with him?
No, not at that moment. I saw only that he had olive skin. [PROBLEMATIC-- ace.] I was relieved, I left car 12 getting away from him crying out "I've got the gun!" (j'ai la arme). I was satisfied... but not very experienced because I didn't think that he might have a a pistol in addition. I took four or five steps and I felt a pain that almost knocked me unconscious, a shock that knocked me forward. I crumpled to the floor and I dropped the Kalachnikov. Were you able to keep on watching what was happening? A little. I was between two rows of seats, another passenger against me. I felt my shirt become drenched with my blood. I tried to look and I saw Isabelle, a few rows away from me. We stared at each other, eyes locked. I told her, "I'm hit. I'm done for." I saw nothing but her eyes. In the past, since as along as I remember, I had always thought: "When my time to die comes, I want to do it well, without any fear." Well, here it was. I saw that Isabelle was about to burst into tears. During this time, the American military men threw themselves into the fight with Ayoub El-Khazzani. How did you react? I saw two people virtually jumping through the air to join the fight. It thrilled me to see these people throwing themselves into it. In the meantime, the man [the terrorist] had retrieved his Kalachnikov and I saw him coming towards me. I said to myself: "He is going to turn to his left, see me, and put a bullet in my head." It is very hard to describe, all going very quickly but, at the same time, it was like a movie going in slow-motion. I closed my eyes to await my death. You thought you were going to die? The pain of the wound... It was like a fire throughout my body. I couldn't manage to keep my head up. I began to sort of dream. I was no longer in the train. I saw a wooden house, painted white, like where i lived as a child. And I saw my mother who I lost on June 20th, two months ago, with her 60s-style granny glasses... but a little voice inside myself said "You are weaker and weaker. Open your eyes!" After Spencer Stone (one of the American military men, rescuers) busied himself with me. He did not stop talking to me in order to keep me awake. He said to me: "Oh, you are from Virginia? I'm from California! Listen, buddy, you are a hero. You have saved a lot of lives. When all this is over, we are going to drink a beer together." I didn't know how to respond. My wife spoke to me as well. She looked so beautiful to me. We had just come from spending some wonderful days in Amsterdam.... People say that these acts of bravery can serve as an example, such that, faced by a terrorist, passivity is not a good plan. What do you say to that? We need to be attentive. That's how it is now with these attacks. Bonus: Apparently Spencer Stone trained with some Brazilian Ju-Jitsu school in Lisbon. These guys claim they're doing a "breakdown" of the moves Stone used to take the terrorist down. They do not explain Skarlatos' "Muzzethumping" maneuver. While this video is cool, I have no idea how they claim they know Stone did this or that. They are very specific that he used a rear naked choke -- how do they know that? Has anyone read an account with that degree of specificity? Well, I don't know where they're getting all these claims, but whatever, it looks likable to me.Corrected: I changed some wording, sometimes for readability, sometimes because I just translated it wrong (I took "plu" to be the past participle of the word for "to cry;" in fact it's the participle of the word for "to be pleased"). Should be okay now.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2015 01:31 PM (E9ede)
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 01:31 PM (mvenn)
And fellow morons, we have to have each others' backs, just like this.
Moving, Ace. Thanks for the trans.
Posted by: Feh at August 31, 2015 01:33 PM (bSp2p)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 01:34 PM (zSvKA)
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 01:34 PM (mvenn)
And Ace, bravo for your French translation skills - it reads smoothly and clearly; can't ask for better.
Posted by: Annalucia at August 31, 2015 01:34 PM (a5bF3)
I'm glad this guy's getting his due. It takes nothing away from the others, indeed it reinforces how brave they were, to note what this guy and the semi-anonymous Frenchman did.
And I choke up reading Stone's small talk, while saving Moogalian's life. Thanks for this, Ace.
Posted by: JPS at August 31, 2015 01:35 PM (3y0yx)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 01:36 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Vic at August 31, 2015 01:36 PM (t2KH5)
But, hey, I'd bet the actual act would fit to that track quite nicely.
Posted by: The Devoceleraptor (Th1s Week) at August 31, 2015 01:36 PM (o+SC1)
But, hey, I'd bet the actual act would fit to that track quite nicely.
Posted by: The Devoceleraptor (Th1s Week) at August 31, 2015 01:36 PM (o+SC1)
The Muzzie gets knocked down
And don't get up again
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 01:37 PM (2Ojst)
If I had a son, he would have looked a lot like that murderous muslim piece of shit.
Posted by: Prez'nit Shit Midas at August 31, 2015 01:37 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Chris Hayes at August 31, 2015 01:37 PM (Ui7Rt)
Posted by: Amos Grossback at August 31, 2015 01:37 PM (kUjwP)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 31, 2015 01:38 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: ParisParamus at August 31, 2015 01:38 PM (FMvTN)
Yep. You're probably going to die anyway.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2015 01:38 PM (8ZskC)
inspiring story, for sure.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 01:38 PM (AkOaV)
They should've skinned him while they were at it.
As a message to any other terrorists.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2015 01:38 PM (LUgeY)
"I had always thought: 'When my time to die comes, I want to do it well,'"
So unfashionable these days, and still crucial. Lord, if I'm ever in a situation like that, please give me the guts to try, and to go down fighting if need be.
Posted by: JPS at August 31, 2015 01:38 PM (3y0yx)
Oh bless them. Bless them all.
I pray the Frenchman who was the first there lives long and well and damn this Universe that we cannot know his name or else he will be assassinated.
When reading this all I could think of was the man who, about to be beheaded by the Taliban, yanked off his hood and screamed "This is how an Italian dies."
I am ashamed that I cannot remember his name.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 31, 2015 01:38 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2015 01:38 PM (PfVjp)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2015 01:39 PM (NOIQH)
As a message to any other terrorists.
In more self-assertive days, westerners would have done just that.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2015 01:39 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: aquaviva at August 31, 2015 01:39 PM (PXlKS)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 31, 2015 01:40 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 01:40 PM (P6Jv8)
As a message to any other terrorists.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2015 01:38 PM (LUgeY)
I was going to go with cracking his rib cage, spreading each segment as far as it could go, then chaining the corpse to the front of the train.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 01:40 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: The Devoceleraptor (Th15 Week) at August 31, 2015 01:40 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2015 01:40 PM (gf8BH)
But being self-reliant enough to take such action scares the pantaloons off the Neu-Feudal lordlings. They don't want uppity serfs.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 01:41 PM (zSvKA)
Posted by: prescient11 at August 31, 2015 01:41 PM (VMZsK)
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 01:42 PM (C9pBZ)
himself with me. He did not stop talking to me in order to keep me
awake."
Not a soldier per se, but rather a USAF airman.
Who has at least temporarily immunized his branch of service against "Chair Force" jibes.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 31, 2015 01:42 PM (noWW6)
He had "olive skin." They could have used it to make a nice tapenade.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2015 01:42 PM (8ZskC)
It was free yesterday; but they only keep fresh news free. But fortunately my computer must have had the page cached or something.
Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 01:42 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 01:43 PM (0FSuD)
They should've skinned him while they were at it.
As a message to any other terrorists.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
"Throw Homie From The Train".
Foreign Film Action Flick.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2015 01:43 PM (E9ede)
ProTip: After disarming a terrorist -- shoot him.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 31, 2015 01:43 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 31, 2015 01:38 PM (mf5HN)
I think quatrase(sp)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 31, 2015 01:43 PM (R8hU8)
Thanks, Ace - I wondered how the US guys made it down the train aisle without getting picked up. Looks like there was a sprint for the rifle and the terrorist won... sort of. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. First Place: Muzzlethumping!
Why can't we get THAT added to the OED instead of neo-marxist crap?
Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at August 31, 2015 01:43 PM (JIJNV)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 31, 2015 01:43 PM (0O7c5)
Or translating from the lingua franca to the debased tongue of the Anglo-Saxons.
Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 01:43 PM (JvPqF)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 01:44 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 31, 2015 01:38 PM (mf5HN)
I think quatrase(sp)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 31, 2015 01:43 PM (R8hU
Fabrizio Quattrocchi.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 01:44 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at August 31, 2015 01:44 PM (JIJNV)
Posted by: Baldy at August 31, 2015 01:44 PM (sEXjW)
Courage is beautiful.
Posted by: troyriser at August 31, 2015 01:44 PM (Bvf82)
We were visiting the MATS museum at Dover AFB over the summer.
In the mens bathroom is a sign "Shelter in Place Location".
Several stalls and sinks.
Tiny window, up high.
One door in and out.
No interior lock on door.
In the old days, we would call this a dead end, not a shelter.
No
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 01:45 PM (VPLuQ)
Takes great bravery, and crowds behave differently.
Here, someone acted immediately and others joined in. There are all kinds of stories where a crowd will stand by - each person within it expecting someone else to do something.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2015 01:45 PM (NOIQH)
Awesome story and good relating it Ace. The event is much clearer now. I just wonder at what point someone grabbed the AK and muzzle thumped the muzzie, although I suspect the whole thing happened in less than 2 minutes.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 31, 2015 01:45 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Lea at August 31, 2015 01:45 PM (lIU4e)
These are very sad sentences:
"We need to be attentive. That's how it is now with these attacks."
Yes, people will have to be attentive because the attacks will go on and on and on. Terrible.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 31, 2015 01:46 PM (OSs/l)
Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 01:46 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 31, 2015 01:43 PM (0O7c5)
Colt 5:56
Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at August 31, 2015 01:46 PM (JIJNV)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 31, 2015 01:46 PM (iQIUe)
the article keeps saying 'militaires." I've changed it to "Military men."
Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 01:46 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: greats at August 31, 2015 01:46 PM (ZNxx7)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 01:46 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 31, 2015 01:43 PM (0O7c5)
I'd rather make that other sonofabitch lay down his life for his friends.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 01:46 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: tu3031 at August 31, 2015 01:46 PM (YFFpo)
Let's face it, until they did a little too much of it and WWI bled them white and led them into the fractious '30s and the unfortunate '40s, there was no nation on Earth that so enthusiastically ran to the sound of gunfire than the French.
Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. Maybe there's a little pushback left.
We can
Posted by: The Devoceleraptor at August 31, 2015 01:46 PM (o+SC1)
his current claim is that he was on the train to rob people, not commit an act of terrorism.
Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 01:47 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 31, 2015 01:47 PM (R8hU8)
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 31, 2015 01:47 PM (mf5HN)
contrasted with Eisenhower's order of the day for June 6 1944.
The Pope's comments were the equivalent of "shelter in place".
Ike's words were morally strong- the equivalent of jumping on the guy with the AK
"Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well-trained, well-equipped and battle hardened. He will fight savagely."-DDE
To rephrase- "The only thing that will stop a bunch of bad guys with guns is a bunch of good guys with guns."
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 01:47 PM (mvenn)
That's ridiculously reckless. Any idiot knows that a "shelter in place" location isn't safe unless it also has a prominent "Gun Free Zone" sign.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2015 01:47 PM (8ZskC)
Yeah. A long time ago, a moron wrote What we've learned is that even ineffective self-defense is good for the community. Effective self-defense is just better.
Fortunately in this case sheer numbers won out.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 31, 2015 01:47 PM (2lndx)
If they were near Chicago or Detroit, I could almost find that plausible.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 01:47 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 01:47 PM (zOTsN)
It's a shame there were no Americans (like these guys) around when that UK soldier was beheaded in the middle of the street.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2015 01:48 PM (NOIQH)
Stone's awesomeness increases with everything I learn about him.
(Taking nothing away from Moogalian-this is just the first I have really heard from him)
Posted by: 68W58 at August 31, 2015 01:48 PM (rYFmu)
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 01:48 PM (mvenn)
I think that happened very soon after the events Moogalian relates. The military guys (and Sandler) saw this struggle and heard gunshots. Then Skarlatos said "Let's go" and they did.
Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 01:48 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 31, 2015 01:48 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 01:48 PM (dciA+)
Ah, I was giving you credit for being a Figaro subscriber.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 31, 2015 01:48 PM (JtwS4)
ProTip: After disarming a terrorist -- shoot him.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 31, 2015 01:43 PM (iQIUe)
Ha Ha. Listen to the video posted at The Daily Mail. One of the Americans SAYS, I tried to shot him.
Too bad the gun was jammed.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 01:48 PM (0FSuD)
Primé de style français.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 31, 2015 01:49 PM (NHtMs)
"Someone should tell that to the DOD, so they stop telling us to hide under beds"
Damn right. I've made this point here before - The Army taught me what to do in the event of a near ambush: Turn into it and ATTACK!! Lately they've taught me to do something entirely different if faced with an Active Shooter.
What they haven't taught me is how the Active Shooter scenario is any different than a near ambush.
Posted by: JPS at August 31, 2015 01:49 PM (3y0yx)
Takes great bravery, and crowds behave differently.
Here, someone acted immediately and others joined in. There are all kinds of stories where a crowd will stand by - each person within it expecting someone else to do something.
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Contrast this to the Metro Bus knifing in DC where all the passengers watched as the black crazy knifed the white boy 58 times. Public Transport is like entering an execution chamber.
Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 01:49 PM (oDCMR)
As a message to any other terrorists.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2015 01:38 PM (LUgeY)
In parts of Florida and Louisiana the terrorist would have been skinned, cut into small parts, and used as gator bait.
Just sayin.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at August 31, 2015 01:49 PM (Z7G74)
Posted by: Liberal Retard at August 31, 2015 01:50 PM (P6Jv8)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 01:50 PM (2Ojst)
ProTip: After disarming a terrorist -- shoot him.
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Double Tap to the head. Then have a beer.
Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 01:50 PM (oDCMR)
That sign is on the fence at the beginning of the Air Force Base property.
The entire Base is as safe as Fort Hood.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 01:51 PM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 01:51 PM (zSvKA)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Situational Awareness.
I was at DMV on Saturday and hated it (of course). Back to the door, just as many people behind me as there were in front of me while I waited for two hours - I was on edge, to say the least.
Posted by: Chi at August 31, 2015 01:51 PM (lDfK8)
Pretty much gives me hope
Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 01:51 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 01:52 PM (39g3+)
I think this is why shooters set things up to prevent this: shooting movie-goers in a darkened theater where they cannot easily get to you because of rows of seat, or shooting a bunch of elementary school kids.
Sad.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2015 01:52 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Eromero at August 31, 2015 01:52 PM (go5uR)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2015 01:52 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 01:47 PM (dciA+)
Does that make a difference under French law?
In other words, if it's a terrorist attack can he get the death penalty or something and if it's "just an armed robbery" he can only get life?
Or is he just a huge pussy who knows he failed in his jihadi quest and will not pass go, not collect $200, and not get his 72 virgins and so wants to make himself feel like less of a failure?
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 01:52 PM (AkOaV)
Possibly dumb question, but do they get tornadoes there? Where I work we have designated Shelter-in-Place locations that are meant for natural disasters, not for hiding from a crazed gunman.
Posted by: JPS at August 31, 2015 01:53 PM (3y0yx)
It's a shame there were no Americans (like these guys) around when that UK soldier was beheaded in the middle of the street.
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It is too bad. Gotta give credit to the Brit women who confronted the headchopper sans weapons and shamed him on the sidewalk though.
Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 01:53 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: LizLem at August 31, 2015 01:53 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: wrg500 at August 31, 2015 01:53 PM (C278+)
Does that make a difference under French law?
In other words, if it's a terrorist attack can he get the death penalty or something and if it's "just an armed robbery" he can only get life?
...
i don't know. I imagine it does. Pretty sure they don't have the death penalty, though.
In any event, the french do not believe him and have opened, formally, a terrorism investigation.
Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 01:54 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 01:51 PM (zSvKA)
I've heard it both ways.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 01:54 PM (2Ojst)
What's sad is that "we" (the West) forgot to be attentive, and began to believe that bowing down was the better alternative...
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 01:54 PM (C9pBZ)
They should be killed immediately, not tried. Too bad none of the people stopping him realized this.
This guy is a fucking animal, beyond rehabilitation.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 01:54 PM (P6Jv8)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 01:54 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: ace
The authorities also say he activated a burner mobile the same day. Must have found that in the bag too and planned to call his Mom.
Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at August 31, 2015 01:54 PM (NHtMs)
stone's pretty awesome.
Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 01:54 PM (dciA+)
http://tinyurl.com/nkkokx6
Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at August 31, 2015 01:55 PM (dQJCS)
I think this is why shooters set things up to prevent this:
I think that is correct, although this guy watched too many movies, a train car would seem the last place for a shooting gallery, too tight to move for the terrorist too.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 31, 2015 01:55 PM (ODxAs)
In the Hollywood version, the attacker will be a white soldier with PSTD/dis-illusioned by his country's evil war on peaceful brown people.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2015 01:55 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!
Provided you know how to operate the saftey and you've given him a second to stop, drop, and cower.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2015 01:55 PM (Ck8hC)
asshole decides to shoot everyone. Better to go out fighting than stand
there and let him shoot you and everyone else."
One incredibly depressing conclusion reached by the Sandy Hook inquest is that it was likely possible for at least some of the children who died to have survived, if their teacher had chosen a different course of action.
They and their teacher packed into a small room with a door that locked from the inside. Except that there were just too many of them, and they couldn't get the door all the way closed to engage the locking latch.
If the teacher among them had found the courage to step out and attempt an attack on the insane Adam Lanza, or even to have stepped out to passively face death at Lanza's hands as an act of personal sacrifice and protection of the pupils, the children would have been able to get the door closed, lock it, and, the investigators said, would most likely have survived.
The panicked teacher instead stayed put. Lanza then pulled open the partially open door and coldly murdered everyone inside, teacher and children alike.
So, another case where "go down fighting" would have been far better than what actually ended up happening.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 31, 2015 01:55 PM (noWW6)
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Double Tap to the head. Then have a beer.
Posted by: No Ways Tard
Yep. They could also be wearing a bomb. Easier to find out if the guy is completely still.
Posted by: Dang at August 31, 2015 01:55 PM (2oWD2)
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 01:56 PM (C9pBZ)
It's France. What's the diff?
/ducks
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 01:56 PM (C9pBZ)
The hygiene.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 01:56 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at August 31, 2015 01:56 PM (dQJCS)
I think you should be able to strip the citizenship of family members and deport them all
This does not happen in a vacuum. They learn these things at home from their families, these terrorist attitudes. I'm tired of pretending. If your kid wages jihad, the whole family has to go
Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 01:57 PM (zOTsN)
The Good, the Bad and the Muzzlethumps
Muzzlethumps on a Train
Trainmuzzlethumping
Posted by: LizLem at August 31, 2015 01:57 PM (hvf9s)
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t01.htm
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 01:57 PM (39g3+)
They all cowered while Breivak shot them like sheep.
The teacher at Sandy hook probably never took seriously such an event could happen.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 01:57 PM (zSvKA)
These guys will be drowning in la poontang.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 01:50 PM (2Ojst)
Maybe, but they are all Christians. The Black guy's dad is a Baptist pastor and they all went to a Freedom Christian Academy together. Everyone knows Baptist don't drink or fvck.
Funny, wonder why the MSM never mentions that? Crusades?
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 01:58 PM (0FSuD)
France and Germany say they are open arms towards any "migrants".
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 31, 2015 01:58 PM (x3GpS)
Posted by: Brian Williams at August 31, 2015 01:58 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 01:58 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: torquewrench
Our kids schools have told them if they think it's safer to flee the building they can do that. Stupid to make them stay in the damn building.
Posted by: Dang at August 31, 2015 01:58 PM (2oWD2)
Funny, wonder why the MSM never mentions that? Crusades?
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 01:58 PM (0FSuD)
You know why Baptists don't have sex standing up?
Because it could lead to dancing.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 01:58 PM (2Ojst)
Delaware eastern shore.
Not really aware of many.
But I guess on could build a case for it being a hurricane shelter.
Maybe.
Still, put a deadbolt on the door, so it might work for either scenario.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 01:59 PM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: LizLem at August 31, 2015 01:57 PM (hvf9s)
*****
Edward Muzzlethumphands
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 01:59 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: filbert at August 31, 2015 01:59 PM (JvPqF)
Nothing against Tagalog, or whores who speak it, but, GI lingua franca, WWI.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 31, 2015 01:59 PM (xq1UY)
I think it should be conditional. A good hard working parent can have a kid that goes off the rails. A horrible psychotic radical parent can have perfectly reasonable and productive kids.
But if you have nutbar radical freak parents who raised a murderous terrorist, yeah. Exile.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 01:59 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 01:57 PM (zOTsN)
Yeah, I find it unlikely that the kid just woke up one morning and decided to re-dedicate himself to his faith by shooting up a train and dying in a suicide by cop situation (which i assume was his goal).
These types are almost always the product of lifelong indoctrination from family, imam, mosque, internet, and a wink and a nod type attitude from their family and "community" about jihadin'.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 01:59 PM (AkOaV)
I love that Stone talked to him, kept him awake, told him he was a hero, as he kept him from bleeding out.
Pretty much gives me hope
Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 01:51 PM (zOTsN)
All the while, while he was BLEEDING from the thumb wound.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 01:59 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:00 PM (zSvKA)
Nah.
Hom.... "oh"...
/that's a joke, son.
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:00 PM (C9pBZ)
They all saved a helluva lot of innocent lives. They are all heroes of the highest order.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 31, 2015 02:00 PM (wtvvX)
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You say that like it's an inevitability. The French need their own Trump.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 02:00 PM (P6Jv8)
1) Moogalians sees "Damien" fighting with terrorist
2) Runs over and takes AK away and starts to run away with AK
3) Terrorist has shaken off Damien and shoots Moogalian with pistol
4) Moogalian goes down and drops AK
5) Terrorist regains control of AK, approaches Moogalian
6) Other Americans pounce on terrorist
7) Muzzle thumping commences while other Americans hold him
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 31, 2015 02:00 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 02:00 PM (mvenn)
Sad.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2015 01:52 PM (NOIQH)
Because they are cowards.
Didn't one of the women at the Louisiana (?) theater shooting run at the shooter to protect her friend? Maybe she just jumped in front of her.
I would love to see a real look at these instances to see what is effective. The only way to stop them quickly is for citizens to stop them.
Posted by: Lea at August 31, 2015 02:01 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Dang at August 31, 2015 01:58 PM (2oWD2)
That's smart.
I know when I was in school we were drilled on the "shelter in place" thing. Lock ourselves in the classroom if there's every an active shooter.
I remember laughing with my buddies like "yeah, okay. for sure. We'll just sit here and wait for someone to kick in the door and shoot us all. Idiots."
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 02:01 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 02:02 PM (zOTsN)
Also, my hat is off to "Damien", whoever he is. If he hadn't intervened, none of the others would have had a chance.
Posted by: Brown Line at August 31, 2015 02:02 PM (zcbZo)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:02 PM (zSvKA)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2015 02:03 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 31, 2015 02:03 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: X at August 31, 2015 02:03 PM (xGNLA)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 02:03 PM (VPLuQ)
Seems you could be mistaken for the perpetrator. Just a stray thought.
Considering he wasn't a trained professional, all in all good for him!
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 02:03 PM (mvenn)
get the death penalty or something and if it's "just an armed robbery"
he can only get life?
Or is he just a huge pussy who knows he failed in his jihadi quest
and will not pass go, not collect $200, and not get his 72 virgins and
so wants to make himself feel like less of a failure?
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 01:52 PM (AkOaV)
No European Country has the death penalty. Its a shame.
Posted by: Vic at August 31, 2015 02:04 PM (t2KH5)
F that. Back in my day the school's rifle club would've made the entire scenario unlikely...
Well, that and the assorted arms in the teacher's parking lot...
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:04 PM (C9pBZ)
yeah, if you get the gun, you don't run around saying "I've got the gun." You put the gun in the son of a bitch's face and pull the trigger.
He'll know you have the gun, then.
Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 02:04 PM (dciA+)
Starring Samuel L. Jackson
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2015 02:03 PM (NOIQH)
FIFY
Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at August 31, 2015 02:04 PM (JIJNV)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 31, 2015 02:04 PM (ODxAs)
Nothing against Tagalog, or whores who speak it, but, GI lingua franca, WWI.
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True. 'Hey you, you somebody' is Tagalog for poontang.
Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 02:05 PM (oDCMR)
"No, I am Damien."
"I am Damien."
le Damien, c'est moi.
He may do his nation more good by remaining in the shadows.
Could catch on. Speaking of "playing Batman."
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 31, 2015 02:05 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:02 PM (zSvKA)
My highschool was built in the '70s and was all cement block walls, so I think that probably would have offered some ballistic protection.
And the doors were steel, but they didn't have dead bolts or anything. Just a lock on the door handles which are very easy to defeat.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 02:05 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:05 PM (zSvKA)
::: coughs discreetly :::
Posted by: Marine Le Pen at August 31, 2015 02:05 PM (noWW6)
I was about to rant about why our government didn't fix them up again, but I wonder if the polo's were chosen in part because the one guy had his arm in a sling. He probably couldn't wear a proper suit anyway.
Posted by: Lea at August 31, 2015 02:06 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 02:06 PM (0FSuD)
The other end of that spectrum is the Sudden Convert who decides to become a muzzie, severs all ties with his family to the point of changing his name (take that, Dad!) and starts planning some sort of idiotic jihad.
They're both incredibly intellectually weak and therefore will bow before whoever has the power over them.
Pretty much worthless, all.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2015 02:06 PM (LUgeY)
yeah, if you get the gun, you don't run around saying "I've got the gun." You put the gun in the son of a bitch's face and pull the trigger.
He'll know you have the gun, then.
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C'mon, we are talking about a college professor here. They aren't very bright, but he did display courage, so there is hope.
Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 02:06 PM (oDCMR)
Well, that and the assorted arms in the teacher's parking lot...
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:04 PM (C9pBZ)
I am fairly to completely certain there were / are no guns anywhere on, near, or around my high school campus. Ever.
At least not legally.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 02:06 PM (AkOaV)
Not being someone who would know how to use a gun, especially in the heat of a crisis, my instinct would be to get the gun as far away from the attacker so he can't garb/wrestle it back from me.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2015 02:07 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:07 PM (zSvKA)
Posted by: The Great ____ Snark at August 31, 2015 02:07 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 02:08 PM (P6Jv8)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 02:08 PM (P6Jv8)
Macro."
Oh good.
Wouldn't want to be Non-P.C.
And shit.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 02:08 PM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 31, 2015 02:08 PM (x3GpS)
Posted by: LizLem at August 31, 2015 02:09 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:09 PM (zSvKA)
Yes it is. We have the death penalty and it is rarely used until it costs taxpayers millions of dollars. Can we just put them in general population with bubba? Let the games begin.
Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2015 02:09 PM (PfVjp)
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yeah, if you get the gun, you don't run around saying "I've got the gun." You put the gun in the son of a bitch's face and pull the trigger.
He'll know you have the gun, then.
Posted by: ace
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My thoughts exactly.
Two to head, then put the gun down so you won't be mistaken for a bad guy.
That's IF you were able to survive the initial scuffle...
Posted by: Chi at August 31, 2015 02:09 PM (lDfK8)
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 02:10 PM (0FSuD)
At least not legally."
Heh.
Note though that I finished HS before yours was built...
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:10 PM (C9pBZ)
They know. Most of them are either in agreement with the jihadi child or turn a blind eye to it like the parent of a hood proclaiming they were a good boy
The Nigerian father is in the vast majority. Most of these terrorists learned these attitudes at home first. Never the sudden jihadi types, their parents know beforehand.
They aren't all really lone Wolves. They have the support of their families and communities
Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 02:10 PM (zOTsN)
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Who is this "we" you speak of???
Posted by: Texas, Missouri, Oklahoma and Arkansas at August 31, 2015 02:10 PM (8XRCm)
As I parsed the story, the most likely explanation for why "Damien" got to grips with Jihadi Jim was that Damien was waiting patiently outside the door of the men's WC when Jim emerged with a loaded AK.
Now that's presence of mind. Having to shift instantly from the French version of one's interior thoughts being "Oh man, I can't wait to drop this deuce, I hope this guy hurries up," to "Holy shit! A terrorist with an AK! I gotta take him out!"
Posted by: torquewrench at August 31, 2015 02:11 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 02:11 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2015 02:07 PM (NOIQH)
Yup. This guy just grabbed a gun from a terrorist. I think it's more than a bit ridiculous to complain about him trying to get the gun away.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 31, 2015 02:11 PM (mf5HN)
At least not legally."
Baltimore educated?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 02:11 PM (VPLuQ)
It's too bad that the passengers didn't get to play "kick a terrorist in the nuts for a penny" all the way to the next station. Do that while narrating the proceedings in the goatfucker's ear after each kick.
The problem with the French is that they don't have a word for "entrepreneur."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2015 02:11 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 02:11 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: richard mcenroe at August 31, 2015 02:11 PM (Kucy5)
Let's Roll.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 31, 2015 02:12 PM (x3GpS)
Schools are very, very afraid of losing control of kids, and being off campus means they have lost control. It's also why they often forbid cell phones, even to the point of not letting them take calls from their parents who are fighting overseas and only have a limited window to call.
There was a school quite a while ago that put up some very draconian restrictions on watching a solar eclipse. It involved locking the doors so that kids couldn't sneak out to watch it in person, possibly ruining their eyes. The windows had to be taped shut; the only way the students were supposed to watch the eclipse was on television.
That alone sounds like overkill to me. But the memo also answered the somewhat unlikely question (but I guess if you think eclipses are deadly killers...), what if there's a fire during the eclipse? The answer: do not let the kids exit the building. Wait for further instructions.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 31, 2015 02:12 PM (2lndx)
You weren't there. The guy accomplished a dangerous mission.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:12 PM (zSvKA)
Posted by: Marine Le Pen
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Campaign slogans:
Send in la Marine!
Le Pen is mightier than the scimitar.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 02:12 PM (P6Jv8)
Yep, just like speedbump Tsarnaev's wife bought the pressure cookers for him at Macy's, and IIRC, the online bomb-making instructions were accessed using her computer. And then there's that nasty piece of work mom of theirs....
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2015 02:12 PM (NOIQH)
You know how to use a club?
Beat him to death with it.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2015 02:12 PM (E9ede)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2015 02:07 PM (NOIQH)
Yup. This guy just grabbed a gun from a terrorist. I think it's more than a bit ridiculous to complain about him trying to get the gun away.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 31, 2015 02:11 PM (mf5HN)
He'd probably never held an AK before in his life, and possibly not even a firearm of any kind, considering the draconian gun laws in European countries.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 02:12 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 31, 2015 02:13 PM (2lndx)
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 02:13 PM (mvenn)
A "close relative" came to visit for a couple of days, get caught up on the news between, um, assignments. A relative who went to a little engineering school in the Rockies on a rifle scholarship, and belongs to the rifle team of one of the military branches. And he said one thing about this. "No shit, an AK jammed?"
Many would not think this possible. Glad old Mikhail didn't live to see it.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 31, 2015 02:13 PM (xq1UY)
Vic! Good to see you back, how is your situation?
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 02:06 PM (0FSuD)
I am fine. I went to GA to take care of an injured uncle for a couple of weeks.
Posted by: Vic at August 31, 2015 02:13 PM (t2KH5)
right, i'm just saying shooting him is optimal.
As Lizzy said, and this occurred to me after I wrote that, someone completely untrained with a gun might not even know how to shoot it -- is the safety off? Do you know how to turn the safety off?
As Lizzy says, in those circumstances, not knowing how to use the gun as a weapon, getting it far away from the terrorist is a good option.
Posted by: ace at August 31, 2015 02:13 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 02:14 PM (zOTsN)
Beat him to death with it.
The correct phrase is *muzzlethump him to death with it*.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 31, 2015 02:14 PM (2lndx)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 31, 2015 02:14 PM (2lndx)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 02:14 PM (P6Jv8)
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Close but no cigar.
The Tagalog phrase you may be thinking of is "putang 'na" which is short for "your mother is a whore" (from the Spanish "puta" and Tagalog "ina"). Sometimes shortened to just "putang-"
Can be fighting words if addressed to your face, specially if followed by "mo", or just a general imprecation.
/languagelesson
Posted by: @votermom at August 31, 2015 02:14 PM (cbfNE)
At least not legally."
Heh.
Note though that I finished HS before yours was built...
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Same deal in my HS, Class of 73. We had a lot of country boys who would go hunting before school and left their shotguns hanging in their pickups. We never heard of a school shooting. That was something that happened in NYC with Puerto Ricans and stuff.
Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 02:14 PM (oDCMR)
Granted. But how much did it cost to get the bastards there? After we pay for the prosecution and defense. Ex: theater shooter. Now we get to house him in supermax for the rest of his life.
Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2015 02:14 PM (PfVjp)
"Not sure if #5 has been established Tilikum."
I am going off what Moogalian was saying.
"In the meantime, the man [the terrorist] had retrieved his Kalachnikov and I saw him coming towards me. I said to myself: "He is going to turn to his left, see me, and put a bullet in my head."
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 31, 2015 02:15 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 02:15 PM (P6Jv8)
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That thought crossed my mind too.....
Im thinking user error as in "bolts back and he doesnt know how to release the bolt.".....
Or ..... brand new AK packed in cosmoline that was never cleaned from the chamber or action. That'll fuck up a gas tube pretty quick.
Posted by: Texas, Missouri, Oklahoma and Arkansas at August 31, 2015 02:16 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 02:16 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 02:06 PM (oDCMR)
So, now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb
Posted by: Dark Helmet at August 31, 2015 02:16 PM (JIJNV)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
But "entrepreneur" is...
Nah. Never mind.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 31, 2015 02:16 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 02:16 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 02:17 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Texas, Missouri, Oklahoma and Arkansas at August 31, 2015 02:16 PM (8XRCm)
I really like it when the bad guys are incredibly stupid.
Posted by: troyriser at August 31, 2015 02:17 PM (Bvf82)
right, i'm just saying shooting him is optimal.
As Lizzy said, and this occurred to me after I wrote that, someone completely untrained with a gun might not even know how to shoot it -- is the safety off? Do you know how to turn the safety off?
As Lizzy says, in those circumstances, not knowing how to use the gun as a weapon, getting it far away from the terrorist is a good option.
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True. But if it had a buttstock you could just as easily beat his face to a pulp and get rid of all that adrenaline. My first thought would be where are the other armed muzzies. Lone wolf attacks with guns is kind of rare with the breed.
Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 02:17 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Insomniac
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He's from Va. Just south of Richmond.
Midlothian is deer country (they will literally eat your azaleas and shit on your lawn in front of you).
My guess is that he has had some expose to gu s. Rifles or shut guns at the very least.
Posted by: Chi at August 31, 2015 02:17 PM (lDfK8)
Well that explains the jam, no cartridges were in the magazine, it was full of connective tissue...
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:18 PM (zSvKA)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 31, 2015 02:18 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 02:18 PM (0FSuD)
Sounds like someone saw the banana show.
Posted by: Garrett at August 31, 2015 02:18 PM (rruf1)
Well that's taking it stupidly too far but every cell phone is a cheat box these days so it makes perfect sense to take the away. Plus, kids have virtually no self control or discipline so they won't be able to resist texting and playing games if they have the thing. I support taking the phones away during class. I support letting the kid take a call from overseas if he doesn't get to very often.
As Lizzy said, and this occurred to me after I wrote that, someone completely untrained with a gun might not even know how to shoot it -- is the safety off? Do you know how to turn the safety off?
Every rifle is a dandy club and it takes no weapon familiarity to use a club. Beat them until they are not moving any more.
Now we get to house him in supermax for the rest of his life.
Until some hero relieves us of that problem in prison.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 02:18 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 02:17 PM (0FSuD)
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**types**
**deletes**
Your messing with us right???
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 02:18 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2015 02:11 PM (VPLuQ)
Nah, nice 'burb. Next to a less nice city.
We didn't have metal detectors or anything when I was there, but most of the surrounding towns did.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 02:18 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Chi at August 31, 2015 02:19 PM (lDfK8)
Posted by: The Barrel at August 31, 2015 02:19 PM (dQJCS)
Ah so. I was apparently unclear on which guy was the Frenchman.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 02:19 PM (2Ojst)
Ahem. Stuyvesant High School here. And member of the rifle team.
(for those not of the NYC persuasion, SHS was at 15th, between 1st and 2nd Avenues)
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:19 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 31, 2015 02:19 PM (a31sM)
Torn meniscus ALWAY causes misfires.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 02:19 PM (8XRCm)
>> I didn't know how to respond. My wife spoke to me as well. She
looked so beautiful to me. We had just come from spending some wonderful
days in Amsterdam....
Sounds like someone saw the banana show.
Posted by: Garrett at August 31, 2015 02:18 PM (rruf1)
Something tells me the man is going to get one of those rare, Married BJs.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 02:20 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: ThunderB at August 31, 2015 02:20 PM (zOTsN)
But if you're talking about someone who is female, and smaller with less upper body strength and no experience in that sort of thing? I'm not sure the gun wouldn't' just get taken back.
I mean, in this particular circumstance the guy would have probably been better off doing that, but I don't think you can say that's always true.
Posted by: Lea at August 31, 2015 02:20 PM (lIU4e)
Well that explains the jam, no cartridges were in the magazine, it was full of connective tissue...
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:18 PM (zSvKA)
Should've mounted an arthroscope on it.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 02:21 PM (2Ojst)
How do you say 'I need a laproscope' in French?
Posted by: Garrett at August 31, 2015 02:21 PM (rruf1)
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 02:21 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:21 PM (C9pBZ)
So the going rate is saving a train full of people?
Posted by: wrg500 at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (C278+)
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (8XRCm)
I wonder how much that costs these days? Then you get to add up all the billable hours from his lawyers, all the cop's hours, etc.
That POS will be an unnecessary burden on taxpayers until he dies. Just like Charlie Mason. I can't think of a good enough reason why he isn't worm food right now.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (LUgeY)
Ok, now we're just in the "fiction" category.
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: The Great ____ Snark at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (XUKZU)
isn't that a jam, a bullet you can't remove and is blocking the receiver?
But if you're talking about someone who is female, and smaller with less upper body strength and no experience in that sort of thing? I'm not sure the gun wouldn't' just get taken back.
That's true, I guess you'd have to base it on your physical capabilities. Although in a train full of people I would hope at least one other person would have your back. I would, especially if it was a woman if for no other reason than to clear the shame of having her be the one that stepped up instead of me.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 02:23 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:23 PM (zSvKA)
So the going rate is saving a train full of people?
Posted by: wrg500 at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (C278+)
And getting shot and nearly bleeding out.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 02:23 PM (2Ojst)
****
Geez Ace. What kind of joint are you running here?
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 02:23 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2015 02:23 PM (E9ede)
Posted by: The Great ____ Snark at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (XUKZU)
That rules out the married guys.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 02:23 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Paolo at August 31, 2015 02:24 PM (rruf1)
Ain't I a stinker? To quote Bugs Bunny.
Posted by: Barack Obama at August 31, 2015 02:24 PM (P6Jv8)
Posted by: The Great ____ Snark
Have to be a single guy/girl.
Posted by: wrg500 at August 31, 2015 02:24 PM (C278+)
Posted by: wrg500 at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (C278+)
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At a minimum.....
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 02:24 PM (8XRCm)
Why didn't they all jump him and disarm him? Easy peasy.
My father said, "Yes, of course. But who will go first?"
For some reason I have never forgotten that.
And for obvious reasons I especially think of it now.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 31, 2015 02:24 PM (cN9Sk)
Dude's gonna need a transfusion or brain damage due to lack of blood flow to the brain... prior to said "celebration"
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:25 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2015 02:25 PM (2Ocf1)
@62 has the meat of it. They used to be somebody. Might could be again.
Juluis effin Caesar never sold them short. Never did beat all of them.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 31, 2015 02:25 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 02:26 PM (P6Jv8)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:26 PM (zSvKA)
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at August 31, 2015 02:26 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:23 PM (zSvKA)
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I think people (myself included) are reviewing the events as reported and analyzing. A "What- would-I-do-in-the-same-type-of-scenario" type analysis. There is no doubt the guys were heroes. Doesn't hurt to ask what they might have done differently.
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 02:26 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:26 PM (C9pBZ)
So the going rate is saving a train full of people?
Posted by: wrg500 at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (C278+)
The price is ALWAYS high for one of those.
Posted by: Blano at August 31, 2015 02:26 PM (w1ewr)
I'm sticking to asterisks and quotes until Labor Day.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 31, 2015 02:27 PM (2lndx)
I don't really know the correct action either if you didn't know how to operate the weapon, because these guys usually have more than one as it turned out in this case. He got shot anyway, but it might have been point blank in the chest if he didn't run and started beating the guy and he would be dead. I say good and lucky call.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 31, 2015 02:27 PM (ODxAs)
Stone said primer was struck but round did not discharge, which would be an issue with the round not with the gun.
It's not clear to me if the bad guy did not know how to cycle the action or just never got the chance.
Posted by: TexasDan at August 31, 2015 02:27 PM (LjVD8)
Posted by: The Great ____ Snark at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (XUKZU)
That rules out the married guys.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 02:23 PM (2Ojst)
And a lot of us single ones too, unfortunately.
Posted by: Blano at August 31, 2015 02:28 PM (w1ewr)
So the going rate is saving a train full of people?
Posted by: wrg500 at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (C278+)
When I get married, I'm expecting that regularly. Don't go trying to crush my hopes and dreams.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 31, 2015 02:28 PM (AC0lD)
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Isn't this where we get the fabled quote 'who's bitch this is'?
Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 02:28 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:28 PM (zSvKA)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner, most interesting person in the world at August 31, 2015 02:29 PM (P6Jv8)
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Hard primer or a weak firing pin spring.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 02:29 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 31, 2015 02:29 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 31, 2015 02:28 PM (AC0lD)
You might want to adjust your expectations. Just sayin'.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 02:29 PM (2Ojst)
yeah, if you get the gun, you don't run around saying "I've got the gun." You put the gun in the son of a bitch's face and pull the trigger.
Also acceptable is break his neck and put a sign on him that says "HO HO HO I HAVE A MACHINE GUN"
Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2015 02:29 PM (2Ocf1)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel
Your wife will do that for us.
Posted by: wrg500 at August 31, 2015 02:29 PM (C278+)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 31, 2015 02:29 PM (xq1UY)
From the grassy knoll.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 02:29 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Anna Puma
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I'm going to be more generous, and just assume most of us (in said discussion ) are simply hashing out what we wish/hope we would do if confronted with the same circumstances.
NOT trying to beat this brave guy up at all. He's obviously a hero.
Posted by: Chi at August 31, 2015 02:29 PM (lDfK8)
Posted by: The Great ____ Snark at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (XUKZU)
That rules out the married guys.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 02:23 PM (2Ojst)
And a lot of us single ones too, unfortunately.
Posted by: Blano at August 31, 2015 02:28 PM (w1ewr)
Speak for yourse...oh, who am I kidding.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2015 02:30 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:31 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at August 31, 2015 02:31 PM (DsveK)
When I get married, I'm expecting that regularly. Don't go trying to crush my hopes and dreams.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel
If by regularly, you mean once every 10,000 years, you may not be disappointed.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at August 31, 2015 02:32 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:32 PM (zSvKA)
Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2015 02:32 PM (PfVjp)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2015 02:33 PM (LUgeY)
*and we'll have Fun, Fun, Fun 'till Daddy takes Kazeem's AK away*
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:33 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:33 PM (zSvKA)
Something tells me the man is going to get one of those rare, Married BJs."
Ok, now we're just in therare "fiction" category.
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (C9pBZ)
FIFY
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 02:33 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at August 31, 2015 02:33 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 02:33 PM (P6Jv8)
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:33 PM (C9pBZ)
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**golfclap**
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 02:33 PM (8XRCm)
****
Don't feel too bad. Your job will still suck.
Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 31, 2015 02:34 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: Soona at August 31, 2015 02:36 PM (P25Hh)
Posted by: Boss Moss
I know it would never work but it would be funny if the winner files a lien on some state property and forecloses on it.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2015 02:36 PM (Ck8hC)
Posted by: Anna Puma
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THIS! Soldiers --- I use the word loosely --- in the FSA!
But faced with a MAN, they perished.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 31, 2015 02:36 PM (cN9Sk)
I know, Anna.
But you're at the HQ. On a daytime thread no less...
Grain of salt, and all that.
I'll just speak for myself - the dude is a hero. 1/2 frog or not. I would like to think I'd be as brave, but I never want to be put in a position to find out.
Posted by: Chi at August 31, 2015 02:36 PM (lDfK8)
All heroes yes. Its good to talk about scenarios to think about actions although all scenarios are different. I do this with my kids, for example, if your mom is coming at me with a rolling pin, its time to call 911.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 31, 2015 02:36 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 31, 2015 02:37 PM (XtAzU)
*and we'll have Fun, Fun, Fun 'till Daddy takes Kazeem's AK away*
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:33 PM (C9pBZ)
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Round round get a round I need a round.... yeaaaaahhhhh.....
Get round round I misfired a round.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 02:37 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:38 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:38 PM (zSvKA)
Shooting at a muzzie in a train car full of people? What if, at that
short range, the bullet went clean through the muzzie and hit a French
man or woman (or kid). We'd be hearing a completely different story
today.
Posted by: Soona at August 31, 2015 02:36 PM (P25Hh)
He was on the floor, so unless a hobo was riding under the train, I think they would have been OK
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 02:38 PM (0FSuD)
Oh, my stars and garters, that would be wonderful. How would the press twist that?
Posted by: Infidel at August 31, 2015 02:38 PM (PfVjp)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 31, 2015 02:38 PM (P6Jv8)
Normally part of the energy of firing is used by the gun to cycle the action, which discharges the empty casing, loads a new round into the chamber, and resets the firing pin. More or less in that order.
If the gun had jammed it would imply that it fired the initial round off, but something went wrong during the cycling of the action phase such that the gun stopped short of returning to a closed bolt ready to fire again position.
Posted by: TexasDan at August 31, 2015 02:38 PM (LjVD8)
She's given her last bj ever.
Doesn't mean he's received his last though.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2015 02:39 PM (E9ede)
Me neither. But, at the successful end of deadly confrontation such as this one, a small celebration would be apropos.
Got a penny?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2015 02:39 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:38 PM (zSvKA)
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#twoweeks
Posted by: fixerupper at August 31, 2015 02:39 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 02:40 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:41 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 31, 2015 02:47 PM (LUgeY)
Ok, now we're just in the "fiction" category.
Posted by: anon a mouse at August 31, 2015 02:22 PM (C9pBZ)
Yeah, and his wife is going to be carried to bed on a unicorn...
Posted by: Timon at August 31, 2015 02:47 PM (ZDJwC)
She's given her last bj ever.
Doesn't mean he's received his last though.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2015 02:39 PM (E9ede)
I forgot if you're the rick who's in DFW. If so, your area sounds much more promising than mine.
Posted by: Blano at August 31, 2015 02:48 PM (w1ewr)
Of course, they guy himself was a dork who couldn't take down a teddy bear, but that's life for ya.
Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2015 02:48 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Lawyers who threatened Snoop and Katy Perry over California Gurls at August 31, 2015 02:48 PM (hvf9s)
Only the govt can lose money running a Lottery.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 31, 2015 02:37 PM (XtAzU)
Govvie isn't losing money running the lottery, they just ain't paying it out.
Posted by: Blano at August 31, 2015 02:49 PM (w1ewr)
Posted by: steevy at August 31, 2015 02:49 PM (sPO3u)
The AK-47 did not jam. It experienced a stoppage.
A jam locks the weapon up to the point where you pretty much have to dissamble it or use tools on it.
The solution to the stopage the AK had was to rack the bolt carrier and chamber a new cartridge.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 31, 2015 02:49 PM (uhftQ)
God forbid any GOP candidate addresses this in any shape or manner.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2015 02:50 PM (Ck8hC)
Just sayin'. Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2015 02:39 PM (E9ede)
Soon, mi amore...
Posted by: Paolo at August 31, 2015 02:50 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Boss Moss at August 31, 2015 02:50 PM (DsveK)
I am. LOL. I wouldn't know. I'm married. Happily.
I watch Cheaters.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2015 02:51 PM (E9ede)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2015 02:51 PM (39g3+)
Sure enough, the federal government had to budget funds to de-accession them.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 31, 2015 02:51 PM (xq1UY)
Want to know how much the world has changed since I was a kid in the 1950s? Go watch the movie "The High and the Mighty". Passenger has a gun on a plane - gets disarmed. Asks for his gun back. They give it to him - just minus the bullets.
Posted by: An Observation at August 31, 2015 02:52 PM (L9txZ)
I am. LOL. I wouldn't know. I'm married. Happily.
I watch Cheaters.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2015 02:51 PM (E9ede)
Well that makes one of us......
Posted by: Blano at August 31, 2015 02:52 PM (w1ewr)
Posted by: Mark Moogalian at August 31, 2015 02:52 PM (OiFtZ)
Pfft. I wonder if the secret service agents will be on or off camera?
They'll have Bear and Obama huddling around a campfire eating bugs and 10 feet off screen will be 2 helicopters, 5 RVs, dozens of SUVs and 100 armed federal agents eating McDonalds.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 31, 2015 02:52 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2015 02:53 PM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 31, 2015 02:54 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: steevy at August 31, 2015 02:54 PM (sPO3u)
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 31, 2015 02:33 PM (zSvKA)
_______________
1/3 of nothing is nothing.
Just sayin'
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 31, 2015 02:55 PM (a31sM)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 31, 2015 02:55 PM (0NdlF)
Wonder how TFG got to be a fan of his.
That's a climate-changer, all right.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 31, 2015 02:56 PM (xq1UY)
If Bear's original show from years ago is any indicator, yes, that's exactly what they'll be doing.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 31, 2015 02:56 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: logprof at August 31, 2015 02:57 PM (vsbNu)
I fully expect Obama to name drop into the ep that he's renamed Denali and that the Alaskan natives are wonderful people whose lives we have ruined because Americans are terrible. Because he can't help it.
Posted by: LizLem at August 31, 2015 02:57 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 02:58 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 02:58 PM (oDCMR)
Yes we heard
Posted by: NY Jets at August 31, 2015 02:59 PM (gf8BH)
There's no going back now that he's been identified; he and his family will be targets
Over here everyone has a gun, not just the bad guy
Posted by: Hobbiehawk at August 31, 2015 02:59 PM (Qot/z)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 31, 2015 02:59 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: maddogg at August 31, 2015 02:59 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Garrett at August 31, 2015 02:59 PM (rruf1)
Obvious lesson from hindsight: When someone is trying to kill you with a gun, do not turn your back on him until he's disabled, preferably dead.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 31, 2015 03:00 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: Garrett at August 31, 2015 02:59 PM (rruf1)
Barry always did love the watersports!
Posted by: Reggie Love at August 31, 2015 03:01 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: No Ways Tard at August 31, 2015 02:58 PM (oDCMR)
--Someone on Rich Eisen's show suggested the Cardinals, given their thinness at QB, plus Arians' reputation as a "quarterback whisperer." He has resurrected Carson Palmer, so who knows?
Posted by: logprof at August 31, 2015 03:02 PM (vsbNu)
47 The true heroes are the high-minded people who sat there quietly and refused to sully themselves by using violence to solve problems. We should be giving THEM medals.
Now I have a headache from rolling my eyes too hard
Posted by: MAx at August 31, 2015 03:02 PM (LAliD)
Posted by: maddogg at August 31, 2015 03:03 PM (xWW96)
2017: President Trump renames Denali "Mt Moogalia"
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 31, 2015 03:03 PM (UhRGU)
Quickly had to go back on air and say that the addy is THEcollegefix.com. Stressed the THE otherwise you go to a...not work friendly site hah. Gotta love the nets.
Are there any porn sites trying to piggyback of Ace's name? I can't imagine why not; half the ppl here wouldn't frequent both, hah. Built in audience!
Posted by: LizLem at August 31, 2015 03:04 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: logprof at August 31, 2015 03:04 PM (vsbNu)
Posted by: logprof at August 31, 2015 03:04 PM (vsbNu)
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 03:05 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: An Observation at August 31, 2015 03:07 PM (L9txZ)
"But dear, it was an accident! Honest! I typed in ace dot mu dot wow accidentally!
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2015 03:07 PM (E9ede)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 31, 2015 03:07 PM (XtAzU)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 31, 2015 03:08 PM (E9ede)
Posted by: MAx at August 31, 2015 03:09 PM (LAliD)
So what happened?
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 31, 2015 03:05 PM (0FSuD)
--Brady and the NFL didn't come to a settlement out of court, so they're meeting the judge today --but there won't be resolution today.
Posted by: logprof at August 31, 2015 03:09 PM (vsbNu)
Also one of the HyperMarket victims grabbed a gun that was jammed.
I pray I'm as brave as those guys, but success does follow preparation. A little luck don't hurt
Posted by: GeneTheHappy at August 31, 2015 03:12 PM (7h+I1)
Posted by: An Observation at August 31, 2015 03:16 PM (L9txZ)
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My school's students (school, singular because one building 1st-12th grade) bristled with guns. Not in the school, but after school. I don't think I knew anyone over age 12 or so who did not own a gun of some kind.
Incidents = zero. It never crossed anyone's mind to use a gun on another person. After-school and weekend hunting were the norm. Except in summer, then fishing.
Red-neck knuckle-draggers we were. Oh, and Church on Sunday.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2015 03:24 PM (9mTYi)
Fair Street in Atlanta, to Atlanta Student Movement Boulevard.
Has a nice Commie ring about it, no?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2015 03:28 PM (9mTYi)
I believe his role with the underwear bomber was similar.
Posted by: GeneTheHappy at August 31, 2015 03:28 PM (7h+I1)
I have reviewed the no-bond hearing conducted this morning in Houston, Texas for the suspected police shooter, and I'm calling for a new bond hearing for the suspect because it's only fair he rejoin his family during this time of tragedy.
Suspect Shannon Miles is a man of few words, and has continuously attempted to turn his life around. His mother believes he has committed himself to Jesus Christ, and based upon that testimony and the fact he's a good boy, I would release Shannon on a 100K into the community to continue his good work.
Posted by: Liberal Texas Asshole Judge at August 31, 2015 03:32 PM (OiFtZ)
Gordon Street, named for Gen. Gordon renamed Ralph Abernathy Boulevard.
Payback, you see.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 31, 2015 03:36 PM (9mTYi)
They were close to each other, singing and praying.
Posted by: Feh at August 31, 2015 03:39 PM (Hj3ib)
Any day now...
Posted by: Feh at August 31, 2015 03:40 PM (Hj3ib)
Posted by: Feh at August 31, 2015 03:39 PM (Hj3ib)
I need one of those.
Posted by: Tiny Elvis at August 31, 2015 03:40 PM (vgIRn)
By the way, these are MEN, real men. Thank the powers that be, that they were there.
Posted by: kat at August 31, 2015 03:59 PM (SjUvB)
Posted by: m at August 31, 2015 04:12 PM (ELEPX)
Posted by: Zelda at August 31, 2015 04:30 PM (oYbWy)
Posted by: standfast24 at August 31, 2015 04:53 PM (LLvVZ)
Posted by: Richard Aubrey at August 31, 2015 05:15 PM (PCWJr)
Posted by: Sho Nuff at August 31, 2015 05:30 PM (GyLbC)
Posted by: Iggy Slanter at August 31, 2015 07:59 PM (vNZjS)
Posted by: Richard Aubrey at August 31, 2015 08:16 PM (PCWJr)
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Posted by: Beverly at September 01, 2015 02:51 AM (W9ish)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at September 01, 2015 10:23 AM (mOmt+)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at September 01, 2015 10:25 AM (mOmt+)
Got to this story through Neoneocon. Thanks, Ace!
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