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Biden May Run For President, Announcing His Vice President Liz Warren Will Take His Place After a Single Term
I talked about this in the last post of the day on Friday but it seems like a big enough thing to be repeated: Biden seems to be soliciting (the rumors go) Liz Warren to agree to serve as his VP, to be announced as his running mate the day of his own announcement. Thus, the presidential candidate and vice presidential candidate would be running as a team since day one of the presidential candidate's entry into the primaries.
Making this more attractive to Liz Warren, who is old as f***, would be Biden's promise of a one-and-done term, making her the heir apparent for the Democrat nomination in 2020. Not a bad deal. She just may take that deal, and it just may work, at least as far as beating Hillary, who seems to be on the None-and-Done plan. Jazz Shaw writes of former GOP AG (the last under Bush) Mike Mukasey's argument that Hillary may have legally disqualified herself from ever holding US office again: that's one of the punishments listed in one of the laws she almost certainly broke.Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.They specify one corner-case area where "office" does not apply, suggesting it applies every other place you'd think "office" might apply. But Charles Cooke suggested to me that would be hard to "litigate" in court. In fact, actually, I think it might be too easy to litigate -- and dispose of. The Supreme Court has ruled the qualifications listed in the Constitution (age, natural born citizen) are the exclusive qualifications that may be imposed on a candidate, and may not be added to by a mere act of Congress no more than they can be set aside by an act of Congress. It would take an Amendment to add to, or subtract from, those constitutional qualifications, and thus this law would be ruled, I think, to not apply in the case of La Hillary.* Which actually you can see the sense of -- otherwise an Obama-type president, with a Holder-type AG, might attempt to make mischief by making up and prosecuting the opposing party's best candidates for laws which claim to "disqualify" people from US office, should such laws be claimed to have been violated. Alas. * Specifically, laws establishing term limits on US officeholders were struck down by the courts, on the theory that such laws add an additional qualification (that the candidate should not have served x or more previous terms) to the list of qualifications in the Constitution itself.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at August 24, 2015 03:42 PM (WDySP)
Posted by: Yo! at August 24, 2015 03:44 PM (q+zA9)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 24, 2015 03:44 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: IB solider at August 24, 2015 03:44 PM (C891K)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 24, 2015 03:45 PM (n6Omg)
Posted by: zombie at August 24, 2015 03:45 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at August 24, 2015 03:45 PM (OD2ni)
Seems the most logical assumption, although he may have been just checking to make sure Warren wasn't going to jump in the race.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 24, 2015 03:46 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Hillary! at August 24, 2015 03:46 PM (YFFpo)
I have a very high IQ, you know. I'm pretty sure I have the highest IQ in this room.
Posted by: Joey "Bidez" Biden at August 24, 2015 03:46 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: AeroFANatic at August 24, 2015 03:46 PM (qlbJG)
Posted by: wth at August 24, 2015 03:46 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 24, 2015 03:46 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: GuyfromNH at August 24, 2015 03:46 PM (scUt2)
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at August 24, 2015 03:46 PM (OD2ni)
Well, litigating the part that disqualifies her might be a non-starter.
Litigating the part that puts her in jail might keep her from getting elected.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at August 24, 2015 03:46 PM (JtwS4)
Warren: "How dare you imply my ancestors worked at a 7-11!"
Posted by: zombie at August 24, 2015 03:47 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at August 24, 2015 03:47 PM (WjXce)
maybe.
Anyone have full confidence in that?
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2015 03:47 PM (dciA+)
Warren: "How dare you imply my ancestors worked at a 7-11!"
Posted by: zombie at August 24, 2015 03:47 PM (jBuUi)
LOL
Posted by: IB solider at August 24, 2015 03:47 PM (C891K)
So who would HRC choose to be President if it cannot be her and Bill is termed out?
Posted by: Epobirs at August 24, 2015 03:47 PM (IdCqF)
This is a smart move, though, because it is essentially selling Joe by convincing people that a vote for Joe is a vote for the 1st woman president, which we all know is like a drug for proggies.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 24, 2015 03:47 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 24, 2015 03:48 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: zombie at August 24, 2015 03:48 PM (jBuUi)
Anyone have full confidence in that?
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2015 03:47 PM (dciA+)
confidence in any court left that station some time ago.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 24, 2015 03:48 PM (J3phO)
Posted by: Joe B. at August 24, 2015 03:49 PM (q+zA9)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 24, 2015 03:49 PM (oVJmc)
They already have a fence and guards at the White House. So she can serve her time under house arrest.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 24, 2015 03:49 PM (Mxs5H)
Except eight of them were the result of a president dying in office, not election after the president left office. And only 4 of them became president immediately after VP, succeeding the sitting president: John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Martin Van Buren and George H.W. Bush.
That's just not very good odds at all.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 24, 2015 03:50 PM (39g3+)
How could we have a president who couldn't qualify to see top secret intelligence as a practical matter?
Posted by: JackStraw at August 24, 2015 03:50 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: cool breeze at August 24, 2015 03:50 PM (6Cu7i)
Which major party's suicidal self-destruction and circular firing squad face-palming will disqualify it from having any chance at winning the White House in 2016?
a. The Democratic Party
b. The Republican Party
c. Neither
d. Both
Posted by: zombie at August 24, 2015 03:50 PM (jBuUi)
Pfah. All are third string socialist wanna-be's, mere Trotsky's to me.
Posted by: Josef "Ice Axe" Stalin at August 24, 2015 03:50 PM (hLRSq)
I can see it playing out where Biden screws the pooch worse than he usually does, followed by Fauxcahontas running as far as she can from him, leading to all kinds of backstabbing stories, except DURING the campaign.
Posted by: Nutsy the Buzzard at August 24, 2015 03:50 PM (+s5bL)
Posted by: wrg500 at August 24, 2015 03:50 PM (C278+)
Posted by: That Old Guy Driving an '85 Firebird at August 24, 2015 03:51 PM (l3vZN)
maybe.
Anyone have full confidence in that?
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2015 03:47 PM (dciA+)
There's gotta be enough Dems who want the top office who would go along with that idea. Once a few 'thought leaders' turn on her she'd be finished.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 24, 2015 03:51 PM (n6Omg)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 24, 2015 03:51 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at August 24, 2015 03:51 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at August 24, 2015 03:51 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 24, 2015 03:51 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: The Jackhole at August 24, 2015 03:51 PM (ZiySd)
Is this the part where we talk about the Second Amendment, and removing all qualifications other then those in the Constitution itself?
Heady stuff right there.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 24, 2015 03:52 PM (VPLuQ)
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Let me fix it for you.
Joe Biden is a profoundly successful stupid man with the grades to prove it.
Any other walking clusterfuck who plagiarized his speeches would be lawyer emeritus at some law firm.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 24, 2015 03:52 PM (J3phO)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 24, 2015 03:52 PM (xq1UY)
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Well .... a a vote for Jeb is too.... so there's that.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 24, 2015 03:52 PM (8XRCm)
Anyone have full confidence in that?
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2015 03:47 PM (dciA+)
Have confidence in me, comrade. Not in sissy courts.
Posted by: Josef "Da Judge" Stalin at August 24, 2015 03:52 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 24, 2015 03:52 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 24, 2015 03:52 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at August 24, 2015 03:52 PM (z+4T3)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 24, 2015 03:53 PM (J3phO)
Posted by: Draki at August 24, 2015 03:53 PM (C891K)
Posted by: This Election Season at August 24, 2015 03:53 PM (pgzyN)
Economy limps along until Slow Joe is out, then craters on Liz's watch.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 24, 2015 03:53 PM (4dbPD)
Posted by: maddogg at August 24, 2015 03:53 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Yo! at August 24, 2015 03:53 PM (q+zA9)
Whoa, that's gonna leave a mark!!!
Posted by: Lizzy at August 24, 2015 03:53 PM (NOIQH)
maybe.
Anyone have full confidence in that?
Full confidence is the new standard?
I would settle for a sputtering candle flame of futile hope.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at August 24, 2015 03:53 PM (JtwS4)
I reckon so.
*spits*
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at August 24, 2015 03:53 PM (/Ho8c)
Uh, try just under 1/3. The larger point is ceded, though.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 24, 2015 03:53 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at August 24, 2015 03:53 PM (1BQGO)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at August 24, 2015 03:52 PM (z+4T3)
Wrapped up with what? Small pox blankets?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 24, 2015 03:54 PM (J3phO)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 24, 2015 03:54 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: Count de Monet, Peoples Front of Disappeared Posts, WeirdDave Martyrs Brigade at August 24, 2015 03:54 PM (JO9+V)
Remember when I was a Senator? Wasn't it awesome? Didn't I accomplish so much? Dodd-Frank? Remember?
Posted by: Scott Brown at August 24, 2015 03:54 PM (n6Omg)
Is there anyone who is surprised by this?
Other than the MSM, of course.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 24, 2015 03:54 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2015 03:47 PM (dciA+)
Full means zero, right?
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 24, 2015 03:54 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: mallfly at August 24, 2015 03:54 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: redenzo at August 24, 2015 03:54 PM (WCnJW)
Posted by: Joe. Biden. at August 24, 2015 03:55 PM (hELvj)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 24, 2015 03:55 PM (kdS6q)
On one side you've got this herd who all expected to get in, crowd out a few others, gradually build momentum, and they've all been - thus far - sidelined by a blowhard billionaire whose history is crony-capiitalist and politically amorphous, who at least manages to say the things that most of the other thousand candidates will not.
On the other you've got an individual that makes Nixon look like fucking Diogenes, whose term in as Secretary of State was utterly and completely committed to avoiding any kind of public or Congressional oversight, and while she is less crooked than the sitting President she lacks that Krupp-hardened sheen of Blackdemocratium that preserves him from even the most modest scrutiny.
Posted by: JEM at August 24, 2015 03:55 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Soona - Army soldier at August 24, 2015 03:55 PM (P25Hh)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 24, 2015 03:55 PM (R8hU8)
Trump was given a 4-F draft deferment. Does anyone know the reason ?
Posted by: righter at August 24, 2015 03:55 PM (PuUUx)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
Sacred Crone Waren is as old as the sky. Legends of our ancestors tell us she is mother of Corn Goddess and sister of Coyote.
Posted by: zombie at August 24, 2015 03:55 PM (jBuUi)
Mhaw's now fhoonhee.
Posted by: geno smith at August 24, 2015 03:55 PM (pgzyN)
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 24, 2015 03:55 PM (HstNY)
Unless Squaw Warren is Solozzo (sp?), in which case, watch out for the piano wire, Joey.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 24, 2015 03:56 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 24, 2015 03:56 PM (gf8BH)
Washington Examiner broke it over the weekend. They compared the dates when documents were handed over and when backups were done and when the server was supposedly wiped. Dates don't add up.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 24, 2015 03:56 PM (OGm46)
biden/warren almost ensures a Carly VP pick.
But let's stop this speculation, America deserves a Trump vs Sanders election.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 24, 2015 03:56 PM (ODxAs)
Trump was given a 4-F draft deferment. Does anyone know the reason ?
Trump got a 4-F, but his hair fought and came back wounded.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 24, 2015 03:56 PM (n6Omg)
Although with the rise of Biden, its looking increasingly likely that the "Obama is undermining Hillary" theory is accurate.
But Biden? Seriously? The guy even hard left people mock with that image of him gazing out the window?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 24, 2015 03:56 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: mallfly at August 24, 2015 03:56 PM (qSIlh)
Try that for some seven-dimensional chess.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 24, 2015 03:57 PM (xq1UY)
Has any reporter type person contacted freeking Carbonite to see if HRC hasd an account?
you know for safe, secure backup?
??
Posted by: Yo! at August 24, 2015 03:57 PM (q+zA9)
Posted by: maddogg at August 24, 2015 03:57 PM (xWW96)
http://tinyurl.com/qzr6ld2
Commit numerous crimes..
DANCE!!
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 24, 2015 03:57 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: wrg500 at August 24, 2015 03:57 PM (C278+)
Posted by: joey biden at August 24, 2015 03:57 PM (pgzyN)
Posted by: righter at August 24, 2015 03:55 PM (PuUUx)
I think he suffers from the affliction of having a rich daddy.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 24, 2015 03:57 PM (TOk1P)
What are the odds our nominee ends up being even pretty good, never mind perfect? I'd say slim to none.
Contra conventional wisdom, I think Ted Cruz is the only guy who could pull that off.
Posted by: Sam In VA at August 24, 2015 03:58 PM (JsDSm)
Posted by: cool breeze at August 24, 2015 03:58 PM (6Cu7i)
Posted by: Captain*Arizona at August 24, 2015 03:58 PM (TwjuU)
forget Warren... Biden/Corky 2016!
Posted by: wth at August 24, 2015 03:58 PM (wAQA5)
I was thinking Trump.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 24, 2015 03:58 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 24, 2015 03:58 PM (OD2ni)
That's just crazy talk.
Posted by: Brian Williams at August 24, 2015 03:58 PM (TxJGV)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 24, 2015 03:58 PM (evdj2)
Ah well, I shall take a bit of comfort in seeing the grasping, horribly corrupt, sociopathic Hillary finally get her due.
But the USA is truly a joke now.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 24, 2015 03:58 PM (cN9Sk)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 24, 2015 03:58 PM (4AVeu)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 24, 2015 03:59 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 24, 2015 03:47 PM (NOIQH)
Didn't work for McCain. Of course Palin wasn't the *right* sort of woman and that's the only thing progs really care about.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 24, 2015 03:59 PM (GDulk)
Posted by: cool breeze
Everything is great! Just think of all the money everyone made!
Posted by: Mini Moo at August 24, 2015 03:59 PM (/Ho8c)
or
Biden/Lieawatha VS Trump/Fiorina
I'd pay good money to see either.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 24, 2015 03:59 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: Cherokee Jazz Hands at August 24, 2015 03:59 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Barney Frank at August 24, 2015 04:00 PM (OD2ni)
Given their reaction to Rush, I'm sure they are plenty loyal to the DNC.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 24, 2015 04:00 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 24, 2015 03:59 PM (GDulk)
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She wasnt the *right* sort of woman to more than just the progs.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 24, 2015 04:00 PM (8XRCm)
I'd pay good money to see either.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 24, 2015 03:59 PM (0cMkb)
That's pretty optimistic of you to think you will still have any money by then?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 24, 2015 04:00 PM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Liz Warren at August 24, 2015 04:00 PM (HstNY)
A vexed John Roberts winds up raising his right hand.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 24, 2015 04:00 PM (n6Omg)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 24, 2015 04:00 PM (5buP8)
qualifications that may be imposed on a candidate, and may not be added
to by a mere act of Congress no more than they can be set aside by an
act of Congress."
Interesting, is it not, how the Supremes decide that certain matters are a matter of simple, plain text, untamperable, black-letter Constitutional law, end of story, whereas on certain other matters (which would appear to be just as Constitutionally cut and dried) they promptly whip out the emanations and penumbras.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 24, 2015 04:00 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Fritz at August 24, 2015 04:01 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 24, 2015 04:01 PM (gf8BH)
So..... whats white and grey and red all over.?????
Posted by: fixerupper at August 24, 2015 04:01 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: cool breeze at August 24, 2015 03:58 PM (6Cu7i)
Oil down $2.15
I think I need a drink
Posted by: the real ch3 at August 24, 2015 04:02 PM (IG5KL)
The idea that ANY politician who wants the job would actually fulfill a one-term pledge is naive in the extreme. Once he's in the Oval Office, he could easily kick her to the curb.
If Lieawatha is gullible enough to believe that shit, that's automatically disqualifying.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 24, 2015 04:02 PM (TAzkM)
Posted by: fixerupper at August 24, 2015 04:02 PM (8XRCm)
matter. They believe victory is baked into the electoral cake.
The fraud frosting is a nice touch.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 24, 2015 04:02 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Joey Gump at August 24, 2015 04:02 PM (NeFrd)
Mel Carnahan. His little troll wife served the balance of his term after he died a few days before the election.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 24, 2015 04:02 PM (5buP8)
I think its OK to lie about your ethnic background to get ahead.
Posted by: Mr. Doo Doo at August 24, 2015 04:02 PM (OD2ni)
There was much mirth afterwards.
Posted by: Feh at August 24, 2015 04:03 PM (HYpsF)
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Rubio beats Hilldogger in Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin and Virginia, according to RealClearPolitics current polling. He even beats her in Pennsylvania, but we all know its nutty to think a Republican can win in Pennsy so I discount that poll totally.
Those states plus Florida makes Rubio an easy winner. But none of us here would ever vote for him so none of these polls matter at all.
Posted by: MTF at August 24, 2015 04:03 PM (TxJGV)
There is no doubt that some of the red states got shortchanged in the electoral votes process. A GOP candidate has to run the table of red and purple states.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 24, 2015 04:03 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: gracepmc at August 24, 2015 04:03 PM (DMQhB)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin
Let's rephrase that in classic joke form:
What's white out the outside, red on the inside, and gray on top?
All potential Democratic presidential candidates.
Posted by: zombie at August 24, 2015 04:03 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 24, 2015 03:50 PM (OGm46)
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They'd just give her unmarked classified material. See? Eazy peezy.
Posted by: Soona - Army soldier at August 24, 2015 04:03 PM (P25Hh)
http://tinyurl.com/3wzt996
sounds a lot like how Bill Clinton avoided being drafted
Posted by: mallfly at August 24, 2015 04:03 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: Candidate Joe Biden within 24 hours at August 24, 2015 04:03 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Joey "Bidez" Biden
______________________
If our Low Information President is the only other person in the room, then this is no doubt true.
Posted by: Furious George at August 24, 2015 04:04 PM (UlJ3l)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 24, 2015 04:00 PM (gf8BH)
Fortunately, I sold everything and put it all into-
silver dimes and corncob pipes.
So, I'm set.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 24, 2015 04:04 PM (0cMkb)
>>>> Which major party's suicidal self-destruction and circular firing squad face-palming will disqualify it from having any chance at winning the White House in 2016?
That's just the thing. One of em *will win*
Posted by: Bigby's Signifying Hands at August 24, 2015 04:04 PM (3ZtZW)
Oil down $2.15
I think I need a drink
Posted by: the real ch3
Yes! Celebrate! This is a sign of BOOM TIMES!!
Posted by: Mini Moo at August 24, 2015 04:04 PM (/Ho8c)
Unless a whole lot of white folks go back to the Democrats Jim Webb ain't gonna make it past the first six primaries. Bernie Sanders is getting the white folks who voted for Obama, but he's not getting the rest of Obama's voters. Martin O'Malley seems to be the Democrat Rick Perry, lost in the noise.
Joe Biden is the best - as in the least harmful - that we'll see from the Democrats. He's experienced, he plays well with Congress.
So if you think the GOP is destined to be yet again the Party of Fail, if you think Donald Trump is the Antichrist and is going to steamroll the rest of the field, and if you think that we can't afford to burn it down and salt the earth after five years of Bush sucking up to the Democrats to prop up his wars and eight years of Obama sodomizing the country with a five-iron, then....
President Biden! Hail To The Chief!
Personally, I want to see a bunch of the also-rans on the GOP side fold their tents and let their supporters go elsewhere, and see if it makes a dent in Trump.
Posted by: JEM at August 24, 2015 04:04 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: wth at August 24, 2015 04:04 PM (wAQA5)
It's Friday night fish fries for everyone and that means coleslaw too!
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at August 24, 2015 04:04 PM (u0lmX)
There is precedent with James K. Polk but I agree, that's pretty unlikely. The country needs me! I have to step up to the call of duty!
Every Democrat I talk to is convinced that their candidate doesn't matter. They believe victory is baked into the electoral cake.
I'm inclined to agree with them.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 24, 2015 04:04 PM (39g3+)
Mel Carnahan. His little troll wife served the balance of his term after he died a few days before the election.
It really pissed me off that the Republicans didn't contest the fact that the candidate clearly didn't live in the district.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 24, 2015 04:04 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 24, 2015 04:05 PM (SEFXb)
Every utterance from his mouth is almost indistinguishable from a dementia patient -- and I'm not saying that to be clever. Plus he counters two BIG democrat narratives about Republicans (old/white, war on women.) Neither of those tropes will work if it's Biden at the top of the ticket.
Posted by: Sam In VA at August 24, 2015 04:05 PM (JsDSm)
Posted by: Feh at August 24, 2015 04:05 PM (HYpsF)
Posted by: Mini Moo at August 24, 2015 04:04 PM (/Ho8c)
Not when you work in the oil field
Posted by: the real ch3 at August 24, 2015 04:05 PM (IG5KL)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 24, 2015 04:06 PM (gf8BH)
At least Hillary has a dash of hideousness about her. And no one can accuse the Donald of being a square.
The Republican bench in general at least has some color to it as compared to the Dems.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 24, 2015 04:06 PM (E5UB0)
I think I need a drink
Posted by: the real ch3 at August 24, 2015 04:02 PM (IG5KL
Need some refineries up and running, damn gas keeps going up here.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 24, 2015 04:06 PM (J3phO)
Posted by: The Jackhole at August 24, 2015 04:06 PM (ZiySd)
Shame the crack up happened this cycle when we've got a home run pitch down the middle.
Posted by: Coolio at August 24, 2015 04:07 PM (goVAD)
Posted by: Mini Moo at August 24, 2015 04:04 PM (/Ho8c)
Not when you work in the oil field
Posted by: the real ch3
That's what the buggy whip people used to say! That's not being smart. You need to be smart, like me!
I'm smart!
Posted by: Mini Moo at August 24, 2015 04:07 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 24, 2015 04:07 PM (oVJmc)
A Democratic state senator out here in Commiefornia, Jenny Oropeza, was overwhelmingly re-elected by her faithful liberal constituents despite her having assumed room temperature before Election Day.
I'm beginning to think that the "D" after those names stands for Deceased.
A party where the graveyard vote goes to candidates who are themselves about to be interred.
Posted by: torquewrench at August 24, 2015 04:07 PM (noWW6)
It would be good if we amended the Constitution to limit the number of terms Senators and House Reps can serve.
Ironically, new blood on a reliable basis would be very good for the conservative approach to self-governance because it would circumvent egotists entrenching/protecting their power.
And this would tend to curtail the entrenchment of bureaucracies too.
However, it is a good thing that the Constitution is very limited in what counts as a disqualification for the highest office of President.
The potential for chicanery would be mighty.
While I don't favor a Perry candidacy (but I'd sure vote for him in the general election): just look at the bullshit they're doing to him in Texas!
The bogus indictments against him are outrageous.
Democrats liberals are expert at finding ways to criminalize politics.
The easier it is to disqualify someone from seeking the presidency: the more keenly our opponents will exploit and manipulate those ways to their great advantage.
We don't need a law to know and SHOW that Shrillary has disqualified herself from high office.
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 24, 2015 04:07 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: Feh at August 24, 2015 04:05 PM (HYpsF)
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I saw yesterday SEVERAL filling stations where diesel was cheaper than regular unleaded.
The short is is........ "hahahahaha ...fuck you. Pay me."
Posted by: fixerupper at August 24, 2015 04:07 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Feh at August 24, 2015 04:05 PM (HYpsF)
Hedges, lots of people locked in $60/bbl a couple months ago. Also the contracts we're talking about trading at ~$38 are for barrels being delivered in October
Posted by: the real ch3 at August 24, 2015 04:07 PM (IG5KL)
Posted by: Whatever at August 24, 2015 04:07 PM (Mrl1e)
Posted by: Wind in His Hair at August 24, 2015 04:07 PM (fUjxW)
Posted by: Sam In VA at August 24, 2015 04:05 PM (JsDSm
He's a bottom in a top world
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 24, 2015 04:07 PM (J3phO)
What are the odds our nominee ends up being even pretty good, never mind perfect? I'd say slim to none.
Contra conventional wisdom, I think Ted Cruz is the only guy who could pull that off.
Posted by: Sam In VA at August 24, 2015 03:58 PM (JsDSm)
Yes, the lib/progressive brainwashing technique if very impressive. You have an avowed socialist, mental midget, Satan herself and they can all win with better than even odds.
Hell, practically every Republican running is running on LBJ's platform ( I was about to write FDR but he was to right wing for today's Repubs).
Posted by: Make America Great Again at August 24, 2015 04:07 PM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: The Jackhole at August 24, 2015 04:06 PM (ZiySd)
it's headed below 2.20 here in NJ
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 24, 2015 04:08 PM (gf8BH)
Try that for some seven-dimensional chess.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 24, 2015 03:57 PM (xq1UY)
FIFY
Posted by: rd at August 24, 2015 04:08 PM (a/sAS)
Hiya! How you doin'?
Posted by: MSM at August 24, 2015 04:08 PM (hELvj)
Posted by: JEM at August 24, 2015 04:08 PM (o+SC1)
Hey, remember that state you need to have a plan to win?:
Biden was born on November 20, 1942, at St. Mary's Hospital in Scranton, Pennsylvania
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 24, 2015 04:08 PM (kdS6q)
"London's Gatwick Airport wants to help take the pain out of travel, and has a remedy in the form of 'happy meals' rich in mood-enhancing hormones."
http://cnn.it/1hXbaCV
WTF Monday
Posted by: Feh at August 24, 2015 04:08 PM (HYpsF)
Posted by: Just the Punchline at August 24, 2015 04:08 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Grump928(c)
Ashcroft just ceded it because he got to be AG, but that was something out of a 3rd world country.
You could just put George Washington on the ballot and then just let the Governor appoint whoever he wanted.
Posted by: Coolio at August 24, 2015 04:08 PM (goVAD)
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 24, 2015 04:08 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 24, 2015 04:08 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 24, 2015 04:09 PM (gf8BH)
and not a few Republicans believe the Dems have a lock as well.
Posted by: Bigby's Signifying Hands at August 24, 2015 04:09 PM (3ZtZW)
seems excessively optimistic, you wide-eyed dreamer
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2015 04:09 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: gm at August 24, 2015 04:09 PM (KlkUJ)
on the GOP side fold their tents and let their supporters go elsewhere,
and see if it makes a dent in Trump.
Posted by: JEM at August 24, 2015 04:04 PM (o+SC1)
I could see Trump recruiting the drop outs to his side with promises of cabinet posts and paying off their campaign debts.Come to think of it, could make a hell of a cabinet.
Posted by: cool breeze at August 24, 2015 04:09 PM (6Cu7i)
We have a gentlemen's agreement in such matters, the likes of which unwashed uncouth bitter clingers such as yourself are obviously unable to appreciate.
Cordially, Your Betters
Posted by: The Permanent Bipartisan Fusion Party at August 24, 2015 04:09 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 24, 2015 04:09 PM (E5UB0)
Make it so!
The best part is Barry has managed to give Hillary! enough rope to ensnare her entire network in her chicanery. Meaning that it'll be Barry's network that runs the Dems from now on. Game-Set-Match.
Posted by: Iblis at August 24, 2015 04:09 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Feh at August 24, 2015 04:05 PM (HYpsF)
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$2.05 in OKC yesterday. Might be below $2 today.
Posted by: Soona - Army soldier at August 24, 2015 04:09 PM (P25Hh)
Posted by: Fritz at August 24, 2015 04:10 PM (UzPAd)
Hey, remember that state you need to have a plan to win?:
Biden was born on November 20, 1942, at St. Mary's Hospital in Scranton, Pennsylvania
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 24, 2015 04:
Seems to me they voted for a Kenyan twice.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 24, 2015 04:10 PM (J3phO)
Posted by: John Doh at August 24, 2015 04:10 PM (1OU8C)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at August 24, 2015 04:10 PM (TYZLQ)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 24, 2015 04:10 PM (oVJmc)
19 >>>Litigating the part that puts her in jail might keep her from getting elected.
maybe.
Anyone have full confidence in that?
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2015 03:47 PM (dciA+)
Would that be called the Inverted Illinois? Go to jail and then get elected to office.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 24, 2015 04:10 PM (z/Ubi)
struck down by the courts, on the theory that such laws add an
additional qualification (that the candidate should not have served x or
more previous terms) to the list of qualifications in the Constitution
itself.
***
So how did someone get standing for that? Wouldn't you have to run, win the election, get denied the seat, and sue only then?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 24, 2015 04:10 PM (78TbK)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 24, 2015 04:10 PM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Yo! at August 24, 2015 04:11 PM (q+zA9)
How can a person serve as commander in chief who is, by definition, someone who is opposed to serving in the armed forces and/or bearing arms on the grounds of moral or religious principles?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 24, 2015 04:11 PM (4AVeu)
While one of the stupider things this state has done, it wasn't really in flaunting of the law.
He died after most ballots had been finalized. Law allowed him to remain on (rather than reprinting ballots) and if elected, governor got to choose a replacement (as if any other vacancy had opened up.)
What was hijinky was the Gov. Announcing the replacement in advance.
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at August 24, 2015 04:11 PM (a8eFL)
Posted by: Feh at August 24, 2015 04:11 PM (HYpsF)
That's because California, in its infinite wisdom, created a unique blend of gasoline, which is used nowhere else.
Only oil refineries in California refine this unique blend, which is why you can't just ship down a few tanker fulls of refined gasoline from a refinery in Washington when the price of gas in California spikes.
Who knew that cutting yourself off from the world market in refined gasoline would be a problem?
Posted by: Whatever at August 24, 2015 04:11 PM (Mrl1e)
It really pissed me off that the Republicans didn't contest the fact that the candidate clearly didn't live in the district.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 24, 2015 04:04 PM (evdj2)
Ashcroft suspended his campaign, of course, and by the time he reanimated it, the Dems were already waving the widow's bloomers at the people, saying "do it for dead Mel, the dead kid, and give a poor old woman some comfort in her time of grief."
Posted by: BurtTC at August 24, 2015 04:11 PM (TOk1P)
He better hope he can find a way to mend fences before election day cause like it or not the Clinton wing of the party is still pretty damn big and they aren't winning without it's support.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 24, 2015 04:11 PM (OGm46)
I was told there would be math, but I still wasn't ready.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 24, 2015 04:12 PM (39g3+)
Given today's market conditions it'll be Trader Joe's $9.99 stuff, but half a bottle should still put me away for a few hours.
Posted by: JEM at August 24, 2015 04:12 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Feh at August 24, 2015 04:05 PM (HYpsF)
u in the midwwest? has something to do with the refinery in Whiting...
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at August 24, 2015 04:12 PM (TYZLQ)
Posted by: Jo Jo Biden at August 24, 2015 04:12 PM (OiFtZ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup
you know, that's an option I never considered. There is nothing from stopping her.
Posted by: wrg500 at August 24, 2015 04:12 PM (C278+)
Look at the leaks coming out. From the FBI, among others which is controlled by Obama. Barky's admin is in control of the leaks and if they did not want Hillary sullied with anything over which they have control, there would be no leaks, no "sources" and no news. It would be "Clinton's nomination is certain and her election likely" in the news.
It is not. She is being taken out. By Obama. As slowly and painfully as possible.
Posted by: eureka! at August 24, 2015 04:12 PM (g1MTt)
Posted by: maddogg at August 24, 2015 04:13 PM (xWW96)
enough rope to ensnare her entire network in her chicanery. Meaning that
it'll be Barry's network that runs the Dems from now on.
Game-Set-Match.
Posted by: Iblis at August 24, 2015 04:09 PM (9221z)
Do you think Obama's plan the whole time was to make Hillary his SOS, knowing she would do what she usually does (lie and commit criminal acts), and thus create her own downfall?
I don't think Barky is capable of that deep level of chicanery.Rahm, on the other hand....
Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 24, 2015 04:13 PM (wtvvX)
What did he do, drill a hole in the back of Hilary's skull to get in there?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 24, 2015 04:13 PM (VPLuQ)
Is it illegal to mail poop to someone?
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at August 24, 2015 04:13 PM (ktt8p)
Posted by: Caitlyn! at August 24, 2015 04:13 PM (7RXcs)
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 24, 2015 04:13 PM (l2dSQ)
_____________________________________
I don't really buy into that and W. Bush was actually an incredibly weak candidate for our side.
He had a certain likability but he was no great communicator, absolutely blew the debates, had no war record to run, was basically a trust fund brat, made some dumb decisions, etc yet he still won at least running on a center-right platform.
Biden is just about the worst Democrat I could possibly conceive to be on the top of the ticket, at least Sanders has a certain authenticity and quirkiness.
If demographics were truly that insurmountable, no way Republicans would have the numbers we do nationwide, it's at a near all time high in 100 years as far as GOP officeholders.
Posted by: Coolio at August 24, 2015 04:13 PM (goVAD)
It says "his", not "hers" and thus doesn't apply to the Grandmonster.
/Clintonian argument
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 24, 2015 04:13 PM (SEFXb)
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Persons for whom that matters were not going to vote for him anyway.
Posted by: Bigby's Signifying Hands at August 24, 2015 04:13 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: DJIA Death Watch at August 24, 2015 04:13 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Furious George at August 24, 2015 04:14 PM (UlJ3l)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 24, 2015 04:14 PM (75gXb)
Posted by: wth at August 24, 2015 04:14 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Feh at August 24, 2015 04:14 PM (HYpsF)
If not, there is a reason no one has done so before.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 24, 2015 04:14 PM (ZvKdv)
seems excessively optimistic, you wide-eyed dreamer
This made me laugh so much my eyes were watering. Every time I try to do humor I find someone who proves they're so much better at it than I.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 24, 2015 04:14 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho at August 24, 2015 04:15 PM (gbIds)
And rich! Don't forget rich.
Posted by: Mr. Doo Doo at August 24, 2015 04:15 PM (OD2ni)
seems excessively optimistic, you wide-eyed dreamer
Posted by: ace at August 24, 2015 04:09 PM (dciA+)
Eh, Biden's got him some short eyes. Does Squaw Warren perhaps have a young niece?
Posted by: BurtTC at August 24, 2015 04:15 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 24, 2015 04:15 PM (ODxAs)
http://www.sacbee.com/news/business/article31480399.html
Posted by: JEM at August 24, 2015 04:15 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Mini Moo at August 24, 2015 04:15 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2015 04:15 PM (AqaiB)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 24, 2015 04:16 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: simplemind at August 24, 2015 04:16 PM (5vV+V)
Posted by: JEM at August 24, 2015 04:04 PM (o+SC1)
Aren't there about 6 GOP candiduds with 0% support. That will not make much of a dent.
remember how Tim (Where is he now?) Pawlenty folded his tent after the Iowa Straw Poll? He was the only GOP candidate that was not the front runner for at least 15 minutes. They are all hoping for their moment in the sun.
Posted by: rd at August 24, 2015 04:16 PM (a/sAS)
My investment advice is to go long on canned goods and shotguns.
Posted by: Slow Joe Biden at August 24, 2015 04:17 PM (Mrl1e)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 24, 2015 04:17 PM (OGm46)
It's a shame governments are chiefed by the double tongues.
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at August 24, 2015 04:17 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: Feh at August 24, 2015 04:17 PM (HYpsF)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 24, 2015 04:17 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 24, 2015 04:17 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: El Kabong at August 24, 2015 04:17 PM (75gXb)
Are they still on strike, or is something just fucked up? They catch fire a lot, I've noticed.
Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at August 24, 2015 04:17 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 24, 2015 04:17 PM (gf8BH)
No can, brah. The VP has to be eligible to be president.
I have always wondered why we don't do the shadow cabinet thing though.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 24, 2015 04:17 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Moochie, how you like these hips bitches at August 24, 2015 04:18 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Feh at August 24, 2015 04:05 PM (HYpsF)
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$2.05 in OKC yesterday. Might be below $2 today.
Posted by: Soona - Army soldie
There's a gas station in Marin County where the owner was getting complaints that he was changing too much (over $4/gallon).
Then, as a crazy experiment, and to shut everyone up, he just raised the prices to $8/gallon. (Not a typo -- eight dollars a gallon).
Guess what happened? He made more money and had more customers than before!
it was all because of his location -- not only is he in one of the richest areas of the nation hut he's one of those "last chance for gas" sweet spots on a road that tourists take (going up to Mt. Tamalpais). Plus, he was getting people who drove there on purpose just to take selfies of themselves getting the country's most expensive gas!
I think he has since returned the prices to the $4 range, and now he doesn't get any more complaints.
Posted by: zombie at August 24, 2015 04:18 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne at August 24, 2015 04:18 PM (hELvj)
Posted by: Slow Joe Biden at August 24, 2015 04:18 PM (Mrl1e)
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 24, 2015 04:18 PM (l2dSQ)
Let's just say that that's not Jergens skin moisturizer in the bottle at the Weiner Compound.
Posted by: Fritz at August 24, 2015 04:18 PM (UzPAd)
Joe Biden is a profoundly stupid man with the grades to prove it.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 24, 2015 03:44 PM (evdj2)
Just think how bad they would be if I hadn't cheated!
Posted by: Hair Plugs Joe Biden at August 24, 2015 04:18 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 24, 2015 04:17 PM (OGm46)
I repeat. Someone will be called a lying motherfucker, someone will take a swing and there will be hairplugs strewn all over the stage.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 24, 2015 04:19 PM (mf5HN)
I'm still your girl for the nomination, and stand tanned, rested, and ready to be your Commander in Brief!
Posted by: Hilly the Comic at August 24, 2015 04:19 PM (OiFtZ)
Posted by: Feh at August 24, 2015 04:19 PM (HYpsF)
remember how Tim (Where is he now?) Pawlenty folded his tent after
the Iowa Straw Poll? He was the only GOP candidate that was not the
front runner for at least 15 minutes. They are all hoping for their
moment in the sun.
Posted by: rd at August 24, 2015 04:16 PM (a/sAS)
I remember Herb Cain announcing his "suspension" of his campaign, proclaiming "Hey everybody, at least I came in fourth!"
That's all it is to some of them. Their little time in the sun, giving that shriveled up ego one more chance to swell.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 24, 2015 04:19 PM (TOk1P)
remember how Tim (Where is he now?) Pawlenty folded his tent after the Iowa Straw Poll? He was the only GOP candidate that was not the front runner for at least 15 minutes. They are all hoping for their moment in the sun.
Posted by: rd
I bet Pawlenty really regrets folding, he likely would have been the nominee had he stuck around. I actually thought he would have been a better choice
Many of our candidates are just hoping to get their own Fox show, so many will hang around until the bitter end as long as they can be on TV
Posted by: Coolio at August 24, 2015 04:19 PM (goVAD)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 24, 2015 04:19 PM (XUKZU)
Yeah, the Clinton machine is powerful and vicious. Obama had better watch his back if he's playing that game.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 24, 2015 04:19 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at August 24, 2015 04:19 PM (7RXcs)
Just not seeing it. Bill as Press Secretary for a few weeks, sure. VP no.
Posted by: Bigby's Signifying Hands at August 24, 2015 04:19 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Hilly the Comic at August 24, 2015 04:20 PM (OiFtZ)
Posted by: Stand Up Chuck! at August 24, 2015 04:20 PM (TzeLs)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 24, 2015 04:20 PM (gf8BH)
I am looking forward to my debate with Trump. Melania and Ivanka have very grabbable asses.
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 24, 2015 04:20 PM (OD2ni)
Like a debate in the South Korean Parliament.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 24, 2015 04:20 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Oh who cares at August 24, 2015 04:20 PM (8nJ78)
Posted by: Feh at August 24, 2015 04:20 PM (HYpsF)
No biggie, right?
Moomoo says, "I'll cover it, I'll cut them a check on Wednesday."
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 24, 2015 04:20 PM (ZvKdv)
Posted by: Jo Jo Biden at August 24, 2015 04:20 PM (OiFtZ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 24, 2015 04:20 PM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Reggie at August 24, 2015 04:21 PM (hELvj)
motherfucker, someone will take a swing and there will be hairplugs
strewn all over the stage.
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 24, 2015 04:19 PM (mf5HN)
I would pay to see it end similarly to when Clarice first went to visit Dr. Lector.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 24, 2015 04:21 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: zombie at August 24, 2015 04:21 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 24, 2015 04:21 PM (l2dSQ)
What do you prefer - me as President, or a smoking radioactive crater in the middle of your city?
Posted by: Empress Hillary Cixi at August 24, 2015 04:21 PM (Mrl1e)
He had a certain likability but he was no great communicator, absolutely blew the debates, had no war record to run, was basically a trust fund brat, made some dumb decisions, etc yet he still won at least running on a center-right platform.
Biden is just about the worst Democrat I could possibly conceive to be on the top of the ticket, at least Sanders has a certain authenticity and quirkiness.
If demographics were truly that insurmountable, no way Republicans would have the numbers we do nationwide, it's at a near all time high in 100 years as far as GOP officeholders.
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That was true of Bush in 2000, but in 2004 he was very well liked. Most of his first term enjoyed high approval ratings. And in 2004 the public hadn't totally soured on Iraq yet, plus the economy was in good shape. He was a popular, war-time incumbent running against a dull, horse-faced, humorless lothario from the nation's bluest state. And even that election was closer than it should've been.
I have yet to see any evidence that America is better than a nation where the majority wants a loose moral climate and free $hit from the government. That's why Democrats win.
Posted by: Sam In VA at August 24, 2015 04:22 PM (JsDSm)
He invested heavily in breast implant technology in China, which is impervious to any shock or jitters.
Posted by: Feh at August 24, 2015 04:22 PM (HYpsF)
True, the Democratic party base has no problems being labeled as Marxists. However, Democratic presidential candidates will. So will Democratic governors and senators and so on.
If we're going to be transformed into an authoritarian police state then we should at least at some point get these rat bastards to admit who and what they are.
Posted by: troyriser at August 24, 2015 04:22 PM (Bvf82)
How nice for him.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 24, 2015 04:22 PM (0FSuD)
When Trump gets in office he's gonna dump the comb over and go full Les Grossman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odd8Zdhuj9o
Posted by: JackStraw at August 24, 2015 04:22 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 24, 2015 04:22 PM (XUKZU)
Is he a Democrat, and if so, did the experiment change his mind?
Posted by: Feh
I dunno his party -- he's an immigrant, though, I think Iranian or something.
Posted by: zombie at August 24, 2015 04:22 PM (jBuUi)
Don't rush me. This takes some thinking.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 24, 2015 04:23 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: RoyalOil
________________
But if Biden reneged on his promise to Warren, she would accuse him of being an Indian giver.
Posted by: Furious George at August 24, 2015 04:23 PM (UlJ3l)
I'm old enough to remember in 2004 that Democrats were told they needed to make inroads with religious voters or they were doomed. The Evganelical turnout was insurmountable, and Karl Rove was a genius.
You can look up "Rosary" Joe Biden or the attempts of Dems to demand Christians vote for them because they help "the poor and stuff."
My guess is Democrats do not get the Obama turn out in 2016. The identity politics in the liberal group are coming to a head. Their party will become a barrel of crabs, all jockeying to get out first.
Will blacks and Hispanics really turn out for Joe Biden or Lieawatha?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 24, 2015 04:23 PM (n6Omg)
She was given SoS after Obama won, plus a settling of her debts. She can be bought. Whether she goes Demi-monde is another story. I don't see her having the gravitas of the ole DC Dinosaurs crowd, the Kissingers and such. Maybe along the lines of a Carter but less so...
Posted by: Bigby's Signifying Hands at August 24, 2015 04:24 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Carol and/or Cheryl Tunt at August 24, 2015 04:24 PM (amQXf)
Plus all that senior discount shit.
Posted by: Positive Waves at August 24, 2015 04:24 PM (MQEz6)
The crater, no question.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 24, 2015 04:24 PM (YJmuy)
I think it's all up for grabs now.
Posted by: Soona - Army soldier at August 24, 2015 04:24 PM (P25Hh)
Posted by: Positive Waves at August 24, 2015 04:24 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 24, 2015 04:24 PM (+YMhA)
Posted by: JEM at August 24, 2015 04:08 PM (o+SC1)
Oh, I know that. Obama hates Hillary too much for that to ever happen. But it doesn't make the thought any less delicious.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 24, 2015 04:25 PM (SEFXb)
Biden is just about the worst Democrat I could possibly conceive to be on the top of the ticket, at least Sanders has a certain authenticity and quirkiness.
Posted by: Coolio
Assuming !Jeb! -- or on the off chance Trump -- is the GOP candidate, Biden can contrast his up from humble origins narrative. Plus an elaborate story about fulfilling his dying son's last wish.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 24, 2015 04:25 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren
She has my vote
Posted by: Ten Bears at August 24, 2015 04:25 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 24, 2015 04:25 PM (evdj2)
http://patch.com/california/millvalley/8-gallon-regular-gasoline-sausalito-station-owner-says-why
$8 a Gallon for Regular Gasoline? Sausalito Station Owner Says Why
The gas station's owner provided an interesting explanation for his prices this week.
"Asked by local media outlets as to his reasoning, the station’s owner, David Mann, said he was tired of people complaining.
“People would complain about a 2 to 3 cent difference with other stations, so I raised the gas prices to almost 8 dollars to shut up the complainers. And it worked. They stopped complaining,” Mann told KTVU.
“People in Marin County have a lot of money. They don’t care about $2 or $3 higher per gallon,” he told SF Gate. “I don’t want to take advantage of it. I just want to get rid of the complainers.”
Prices were down to about $5 by Friday.
Posted by: zombie at August 24, 2015 04:25 PM (jBuUi)
Doesn't matter, I pay more in taxes than all of you trailer park trash combined anyway.
Posted by: ohmybuttz/achin! at August 24, 2015 04:26 PM (y1PKa)
I award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul.
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 24, 2015 04:26 PM (zoyKY)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 24, 2015 04:26 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 24, 2015 04:26 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 24, 2015 04:26 PM (659DL)
Posted by: The Great White Snark
No, no, no! You're thinking all wrong about this. You've got to be smart like me!
Ask yourself this: did the Germans despair in 1921? Oh wait, they did...never mind. But the world didn't end, so there! It just ushered in World War 2, so no reason to be alarmed at market instability.
Just make it rain! Then you can be like me and spend more on dry cleaning in a month than most people make in their entire lives.
Posted by: Mini Moo at August 24, 2015 04:26 PM (/Ho8c)
I don't think Hillary has anything to burn people with. Plus my guess is the CIA has pictures of Bill with little girls on that Pedo island.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 24, 2015 04:26 PM (n6Omg)
Posted by: zombie at August 24, 2015 04:26 PM (jBuUi)
Just saw CNN desperately trying to calm the masses over the stock market. They were talking up the economy and how it's returned to normal...
I expected to see Kevin Bacon yelling all is well.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 24, 2015 04:26 PM (0x/TW)
Assuming Biden doesn't die or resign... making Warren President automatically...
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 24, 2015 04:27 PM (0TXlm)
This surely deflates the Dem voters.
I haven't talked to any left-leaning people I know what they would think of this.
I'm curious what the first reaction would be.
Of course, the left can be sold anything. Anything. It's the Indies that might have trouble with this.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 24, 2015 04:27 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Biden/Warren '16 Bumper Sticker at August 24, 2015 04:27 PM (amQXf)
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 24, 2015 04:27 PM (OD2ni)
How can a person serve as commander in chief who is, by definition, someone who is opposed to serving in the armed forces and/or bearing arms on the grounds of moral or religious principles?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 24, 2015 04:11 PM (4AVeu)
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Was this official? Or is this only what he claims.
Perhaps he was 4-F or had some other deferment but calls himself a CO because he's all peacey and stuff.
I mean, a guy who honeymoons in an Amish village might be a true pacifist. But Sanders honeymooned in the militaristic USSR. He has always adored Castro ---y'no, the guy who spent his whole life prancing around in military fatigues.
Is Sanders a Quaker or a Mennonite? I thought he was Jewish.
I smell a rat ....well, a LOT of rats.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 24, 2015 04:27 PM (cN9Sk)
Yea, he sounds like a juggernaut.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 24, 2015 04:28 PM (OGm46)
the professional establishment campaign managers. All sorts of shit
that's not supposed to happen has happened. It was to be all cut and
dried by this time.
I think it's all up for grabs now.
Posted by: Soona - Army soldier at August 24, 2015 04:24 PM (P25Hh)
I agree. Jeb! was fully expecting to be debating the likes of Kasich right now, not the maniac with the scowling combover, and the Dems... well, they still need their candidate of mocha to emerge from the shadows, but it would be really REALLY helpful if Sir Hillery would take the hint and get off the stage.
Something tells me their preferred candidate of mocha is telling them in her oh-so-elegant way to shove the nomination of their respective sphincters.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 24, 2015 04:28 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 24, 2015 04:26 PM (n6Omg)
Fingers crossed there's a Thumb Drive #2.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 24, 2015 04:28 PM (qCMvj)
Do I know how to read Jeb's mind or what? Jeb just said that the "abuse" of anchor baby provision was Asian birth tourism. Mexican invasion OK though because they really mean it. Jeb married the wrong woman and he's been doubling down on his bad decision ever since.
Posted by: bjk at August 24, 2015 04:28 PM (x2rNW)
I don't think Obama can pull off the trick that Clinton did to somehow get people to believe him in the 2012 DNC speech. Nobody could have done better with the economy, even me! Vote for Obama anyway!
I just don't see him pulling that off, particularly after he's more than worn out his welcome by making 800 speeches on TV droneing on and on.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 24, 2015 04:29 PM (39g3+)
Next, I want to hear the lamentations of their women.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 24, 2015 04:29 PM (659DL)
Yea, he sounds like a juggernaut.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 24, 2015 04:28 PM (OGm46)
That's a vote total that gets you declared a top-tier candidate nowadays.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 24, 2015 04:29 PM (n6Omg)
Posted by: E.T. at August 24, 2015 04:30 PM (yq4gk)
You can look up "Rosary" Joe Biden or the attempts of Dems to demand Christians vote for them because they help "the poor and stuff."
My guess is Democrats do not get the Obama turn out in 2016. The identity politics in the liberal group are coming to a head. Their party will become a barrel of crabs, all jockeying to get out first.
Will blacks and Hispanics really turn out for Joe Biden or Lieawatha?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk
It's amazing how much politics has changed. Gay marriage is what gave Bush his 2nd term, absolutely no question. Had that issue not come up, I think Kerry would have won in Ohio where it was on the ballot.
I think Obama was a one-off and Democrats are overestimating their electoral strength. I remember after 2004 there was all sorts of talk about the GOP being the default party in America for a while.
Posted by: Coolio at August 24, 2015 04:30 PM (goVAD)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 24, 2015 04:17 PM (OGm46)
That's exactly how I see it in my mind.
Except I see Biden as more of a jackass hee-hawing his laughter through toilet bowl white fake choppers.
Serious question though, last Rep VP candidate seemed completely flummoxed by Biden's weird rude jackass routine,
who could neutralize that or turn it around on Biden effectively and how?
Posted by: naturalfake at August 24, 2015 04:30 PM (0cMkb)
Obviously, given the lack of credible Democratic candidates, I have to serve a third term to maintain order, amidst all this political chaos.
Black Lives Matter activists will be made Federal Marshals, in order to oversee the election process in 2016, and guarantee the correct result.
Posted by: Emperor Obama at August 24, 2015 04:30 PM (Mrl1e)
Posted by: The Huck -- still inexplicably here at August 24, 2015 04:30 PM (659DL)
Just pointing out that in August of 2011, Herman Cain was in first place in the Republican primary. Cycle before it was Rudy.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 24, 2015 04:30 PM (OGm46)
If you like free education, free healthcare, free retirement, and free childcare, I'm your girl.
Posted by: Sir Edmund Milhaus Clinton at August 24, 2015 04:30 PM (OiFtZ)
Posted by: Positive Waves at August 24, 2015 04:30 PM (MQEz6)
Pinging out to comment # 271:
I have disagreed with you on some issues, Troy (ex: Martin v Zimmerman).
But I think you are correct that we should be looking for effective ways to put the Democrats/liberals/progressives/ on the defense when it comes to high office politics.
A concerted effort at labeling them Marxists _might_ work. (- Assuming we conservatives could actually all get together on such a straightforwardly applied tactic.)
But it might also be an overreach. - Perhaps painting with a brush a bit too broad? Maybe not.
I like the same basic idea of putting them on the defensive issue buy issue.
- However that requires even greater tactical coordination among us.
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 24, 2015 04:31 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at August 24, 2015 04:31 PM (OO77h)
Except I see Biden as more of a jackass hee-hawing his laughter through toilet bowl white fake choppers.
Serious question though, last Rep VP candidate seemed completely flummoxed by Biden's weird rude jackass routine,
who could neutralize that or turn it around on Biden effectively and how?
Posted by: naturalfake at August 24, 2015 04:30 PM (0cMkb)
I see Biden lying and making sh*t up all through the debate, while sounding like it is fact.
Unless we have real time fact checking, no one will know he is lying. Trump can't possibly have all of Joey's lies covered pre-debate.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 24, 2015 04:31 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: National Council of La Raza at August 24, 2015 04:32 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: GHW Bush / Dole 2016 at August 24, 2015 04:32 PM (6Cu7i)
Posted by: Mini Moo at August 24, 2015 04:33 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Kasich supporter at August 24, 2015 04:33 PM (3ZtZW)
They'll vote in the same percentage but they won't have the record breaking turnout. No way.
Both are really odd people and I don't see them becoming President.
However the media wants to spin it, voters are over 70% white and around 75% call themselves Christian. A conservative can find a majority in there.
Posted by: Coolio at August 24, 2015 04:33 PM (goVAD)
Posted by: Boss Moss at August 24, 2015 04:33 PM (OO77h)
I think Obama doesn't really care. He wants a third term but he can't get it because the military hates him, so I think he's plan for the post-presidency is to tour the third world and badmouth America.
The Democrats were just a vessel for his greatness.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 24, 2015 04:33 PM (n6Omg)
Posted by: simplemind at August 24, 2015 04:33 PM (5vV+V)
In other words: I need to start stockpiling popcorn now.
Posted by: LizLem at August 24, 2015 04:34 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: simplemind at August 24, 2015 04:34 PM (5vV+V)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 24, 2015 04:34 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 24, 2015 04:35 PM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Joey Biden at August 24, 2015 04:35 PM (P25Hh)
Posted by: Boss Moss at August 24, 2015 04:35 PM (OO77h)
Posted by: Caitlynn Jenner at August 24, 2015 04:35 PM (/Ho8c)
That's pretty much his entire routine in any speech or debate. He just makes up crazy somewhat plausible sounding nonsense and spouts them as facts. The shotgun approach has its advantages; nobody has time to refute all of them, so some slips through and are accepted by less thoughtful folks. Its how the left managed to destroy the Iraq war: lying constantly, without taking time to breathe, about so many things they couldn't all be dealt with, until even many on the right repeat that crap.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 24, 2015 04:35 PM (39g3+)
This is insider politico porn, by the way. Nobody does that. Oh, just elect me for one term.
This is not rumor it is speculative wishcasting.
Why wouldn't Hillary do this? She'd have double vagina on the ticket, and she'd shore up her left wing against Sanders.
No - if Biden was talking to Warren it wasn't some deal where he will only be Pres for 1 year.
Posted by: blaster at August 24, 2015 04:35 PM (EMtSF)
Posted by: Boss Moss at August 24, 2015 04:36 PM (OO77h)
The Democrats were just a vessel for his greatness.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 24, 2015 04:33 PM (n6Omg)
He'll just walk over carter's dead body to grab the title of worst post President EVER
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 24, 2015 04:36 PM (gf8BH)
I mean, who could have predicted back in the summer of '15 that it would be Jerry Brown vs. Bob Dole?
Posted by: zombie at August 24, 2015 04:36 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Cheri at August 24, 2015 04:36 PM (oiNtH)
The rest of the world may run screaming in terror.
Thereby tipping us over and plunging us into the sun.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 24, 2015 04:36 PM (659DL)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 24, 2015 04:30 PM (OGm46)
Yeah, but neither of them drew a 20-30k crowd in Alabama a month after saying John McCain wasn't a war hero.
Trump may fade, but he's lasting a lot longer than the other guys did.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 24, 2015 04:37 PM (n6Omg)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 24, 2015 04:38 PM (E5UB0)
Posted by: Boss Moss at August 24, 2015 04:38 PM (OO77h)
Posted by: Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho at August 24, 2015 04:38 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Eromero at August 24, 2015 04:38 PM (go5uR)
20:1 she never testifies.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 24, 2015 04:38 PM (659DL)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 24, 2015 04:38 PM (E5UB0)
That's kinda what I mean with the Demi-monde comment: Most of the "elder statesmen" stay behind the scenes and only strike through others one in a decade. Hillary would be too disruptive and vindictive. I'm not sure what they'll do. Either she goes to jail or they walk her right up to it and say STFU or else, and we'll lose the key. She's the kind who'd have been disappeared already in some regimes.
Posted by: Bigby's Signifying Hands at August 24, 2015 04:38 PM (3ZtZW)
No question, we are in a completely different environment now and nothing demonstrates that better than the support Trump is getting from conservatives. Just saying I think it would be foolish to assume that where we are now has any bearing on were we are going to end up.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 24, 2015 04:38 PM (OGm46)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 24, 2015 04:39 PM (39g3+)
That's pretty much his entire routine in any speech or debate. He just makes up crazy somewhat plausible sounding nonsense and spouts them as facts. The shotgun approach has its advantages; nobody has time to refute all of them, so some slips through and are accepted by less thoughtful folks. Its how the left managed to destroy the Iraq war: lying constantly, without taking time to breathe, about so many things they couldn't all be dealt with, until even many on the right repeat that crap.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 24, 2015 04:35 PM (39g3+)
Exactly. And people will believe it.
Both my parents voted for Biden, not Obama.
My parents have no idea where or how to find out the truth. They never questioned that Biden would lie. He sounds so "honest."
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 24, 2015 04:39 PM (qCMvj)
http://www.arbiterofcommonsense.blogspot.com/2015/06/uncle-joe-and-indian-2016.html
Obama hates the Clintons. Biden extends Obamas legacy. Sitting VPs almost always get the nomination. Pocahontas Warren is the left's wet dream.
"[Biden] chew up Hillary in the debates saying that she had her chance under her husband's first term to pass HillaryCare, but didn't - and Obama did. And that she had her chance in '08 to swallow her pride and become the first female VP, and then become the eventual first female prez in '16. But she didn't, lost her chance, and that Lizzy will fulfill that role instead."
Posted by: Trubador at August 24, 2015 04:39 PM (cqfax)
bizarre, I wouldn't be surprised if the USA just voted Trump in despite
the fraud and the front loading against Republicans. Just to say "eh, F
everyone, lets go crazy!"
A recent new Bloom County comic put it very well.
Opus (closet Trump fan, talking about Trump): Nobody's perfect!
Milo Bloom: He's awful!
Opus: But he's honest about it.
Milo: So he's HONESTLY awful?!
Opus: which somehow beats "dishonestly wonderful."
Posted by: LizLem at August 24, 2015 04:39 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Boss Moss at August 24, 2015 04:40 PM (OO77h)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 24, 2015 04:40 PM (iQIUe)
I'm thinking that a Tom Hayden / Angela Davis ticket is lookin' pretty good right now for the Democrats.
Posted by: zombie at August 24, 2015 04:41 PM (jBuUi)
Meaningless.
Rahm Emmanual didn't live in Chicago when he filed his papers for Mayor & the Court ruled that 'intent' of returning to Chicago post Washington, DC was enough ...
Posted by: Adriane the Legal Critic ... at August 24, 2015 04:41 PM (qOsoH)
Bevel @ # 278,
I really desperately want to believe that take. And in a way, it sure sounds feasible.
But it might also be a bit of whistling past the graveyard.
If only America's demographic's would somehow freeze in place, I'd cotton to your perspective.
But the reality is that the demographics have shifted on us.
And Obama's very successful acceleration of Illegal Immigration is going to make it much MUCH worse.
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 24, 2015 04:41 PM (l2dSQ)
That's pretty much his entire routine in any speech or debate. He just makes up crazy somewhat plausible sounding nonsense and spouts them as facts. The shotgun approach has its advantages; nobody has time to refute all of them, so some slips through and are accepted by less thoughtful folks. Its how the left managed to destroy the Iraq war: lying constantly, without taking time to breathe, about so many things they couldn't all be dealt with, until even many on the right repeat that crap.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 24, 2015 04:35 PM (39g3+)
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That works for all the Dems because they rely on the fact that their opponent is not so RUDE and VULGAR as to call them out as liars to their faces.
I just wish there was someone on our side so RUDE and VULGAR as to call a someone a liar to their face.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at August 24, 2015 04:41 PM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 24, 2015 04:30 PM (OGm46)
Yeah, but neither of them drew a 20-30k crowd in Alabama a month after saying John McCain wasn't a war hero.
Trump may fade, but he's lasting a lot longer than the other guys did.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 24, 2015 04:37 PM (n6Omg)
Nor, did they have the war chest Trump does.
And media knowledge.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 24, 2015 04:41 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Boss Moss at August 24, 2015 04:41 PM (OO77h)
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at August 24, 2015 04:42 PM (ElEyp)
I thought the debates were at night, when it's dark?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 24, 2015 04:42 PM (VPLuQ)
Yea, he sounds like a juggernaut.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 24, 2015 04:28 PM (OGm46)
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Yeah, but that was before he was VP for two terms with Precious. He had zero credibility then and the MSM wasn't shilling for him and covering up all his gaffes and plagiarisms.
If he's the nominee, he'll suddenly be the Sage of Delaware.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 24, 2015 04:42 PM (cN9Sk)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!
Yeah, me too. What dumbassery.
Posted by: "Teddy" Roosevelt at August 24, 2015 04:42 PM (/Ho8c)
And why your personal retirement plans may be better protected if they were nationalized.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 24, 2015 04:42 PM (AC0lD)
I'm thinking that a Tom Hayden / Angela Davis ticket is lookin' pretty good right now for the Democrats.
Posted by: zombie at August 24, 2015 04:41 PM (jBuUi)
Ugh. Commie Tommy was my state Senator when I lived in L.A.
Posted by: The Angel Hat at August 24, 2015 04:42 PM (0TXlm)
The Democrats have as their lead candidate someone under FBI investigation. Their second is a Socialist, out and proud. And next they turn to JOE BIDEN?
Joe. Fucking. Biden.
As a contender for President of the United States. Even Democrats had the sense to reject him twice before.
Posted by: blaster at August 24, 2015 04:43 PM (EMtSF)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2015 04:43 PM (AqaiB)
It wasn't directly to her face, but Carly Feorina threw down on Hillary about the lying thing.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 24, 2015 04:43 PM (VPLuQ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at August 24, 2015 04:44 PM (OO77h)
Fed/Treasury strategery sessions must be ongoing. Hamptons long weekend hardest hit.
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at August 24, 2015 04:44 PM (uPxUo)
Now whom do i endorse?
The ass kissing commences now!
and there bettter no be a millileter of daylight between us. or else.
Posted by: Barry o at August 24, 2015 04:44 PM (/eTPT)
You know Jill, the rubes really believed the story about Beau asking me to run for the presidency. I think that story is good for ten points. Buffoons all!
Posted by: Jo Jo Biden at August 24, 2015 04:45 PM (OiFtZ)
Posted by: Barry o at August 24, 2015 04:45 PM (/eTPT)
She's older than my f*** and definitely older than your f***, Ace, but I'm willing to put down money that f***k haas been around for more than 70 years.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 24, 2015 04:45 PM (OSs/l)
Unless we have real time fact checking, no one will know he is lying. Trump can't possibly have all of Joey's lies covered pre-debate.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 24, 2015 04:31 PM (qCMvj)
I believe Cruz has the command of the facts and debating skills to handle Biden...maybe...
But, at a certain point, you just have to shorthand it to essentially- he's lying or he's ignorant of the facts and do it in an appealing way-
or you're just spending your whole time battling his BS and not your own vision -
thus "losing" in the public's eye.
Trump, I assume, would respond with his own BS for good or ill.
Fiorina could probably slap him down.
I don't see anyone else in the field who could handle that nonsense.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 24, 2015 04:46 PM (0cMkb)
Oh its all gonna go down the slop hatch anyway.
Might as well be a flaming circus of poo flinging monkeys riding on the backs of uni-cycling panda bears wearing tutus.
Posted by: simplemind at August 24, 2015 04:46 PM (5vV+V)
And my guess is, Biden/Warren vs a Bush or Rubio would be a bloodbath in favor of the Dems.
Posted by: Agent J at August 24, 2015 04:46 PM (ueOgE)
environment now and nothing demonstrates that better than the support
Trump is getting from conservatives. Just saying I think it would be
foolish to assume that where we are now has any bearing on were we are
going to end up.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 24, 2015 04:38 PM (OGm46)
Remember when Noot had Romney on the run? He was going into debates and getting standing Os for his take on the media. And then he went into that one debate... you know the one, where he was mumbling stuff about colonies on the moon.
I think he was shown his envelope. The envelope with pictures in it, and told there are copies. Everyone, or damn near everyone, has an envelope. The Donald has an envelope. Trouble is, I think it's already been spilled all over the place, and it's not stopping him yet.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 24, 2015 04:47 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: slojoe at August 24, 2015 04:47 PM (/eTPT)
Yeah I just wonder who he thinks is wonderful yet dishonest. Let me guess.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 24, 2015 04:47 PM (39g3+)
I like your reality, not so much this one where it's Putin vs Wen Jiabao. You "vote" with whatever army "drafts" you first when they sweep through town.
No one was surprised that Obama surrendered, just that he surrendered to both at the same time.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 24, 2015 04:47 PM (YJmuy)
PING out to # 363.
Trump will not hesitate to take their lying asses out to the woodshed and bring them back as well behaved adolescents.
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 24, 2015 04:47 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: Jo Jo Biden at August 24, 2015 04:45 PM (OiFtZ)--That's DR Jill asshole.
Posted by: slojoe at August 24, 2015 04:48 PM (/eTPT)
Heady stuff right there."
Naaah, everyone knows that the 2A shrank in the laundry and doesn't have any emanations or penumbras because of it.
/sarc
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 24, 2015 04:48 PM (go6ud)
Since SMOD is apparently still too far away to run, I guess I will stick with All Dead Inside until something changes.
Posted by: some random meathead at August 24, 2015 04:48 PM (gbIds)
To my horror Biden, with his boorish loudmouth ways, outdebated Ryan, NOT on policy or substance but on sheer steamrolling the competition with dumb. Softspoken, babyface Ryan was like a deer in the headlights.
The only candidate at this point with a chance of not being steamrolled in a debate with Biden is Trump. Maybe Carly or Paul. Possibly Christie but if we sink to the level of a Christie/Biden debate I am going to want to quit planet Earth.
Posted by: LizLem at August 24, 2015 04:50 PM (hvf9s)
Think about where the Democrat Party is RIGHT NOW.
Biden and Warren are an improvement.
Let that rattle in your brain around for while.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 24, 2015 04:50 PM (4AVeu)
Posted by: Baldy at August 24, 2015 04:51 PM (sEXjW)
You saw Rand and Christie go at each other in that first debate.
But none of the GOP candidates wants to get into it with Trump.
He'd kick their ass on stage or in a media back-and-forth.
You think it's going to be different for whoever the Democrat nominee is?
NO. and WAY.
Trump is just too good at one upping in the public domain.
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 24, 2015 04:51 PM (l2dSQ)
or you're just spending your whole time battling his BS and not your own vision -
thus "losing" in the public's eye.
I don't see anyone else in the field who could handle that nonsense.
Yeah its the strangest approach, but its worked for him for decades. Personally, I'd just ignore him entirely and present my side, treating him as if he's a paste eating child on the stage. Respond to his points not as if he said them, but with facts that you're leading with as your own. If you can come up with a good laugh line that people go along with to point out that this guy is a serial groping retard, slip it in once.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 24, 2015 04:51 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Bigby's Signifying Hands at August 24, 2015 04:51 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 24, 2015 04:52 PM (OSs/l)
Posted by: Jimmeh C. at August 24, 2015 04:52 PM (/eTPT)
Posted by: simplemind at August 24, 2015 04:53 PM (5vV+V)
Since SMOD is apparently still too far away to run, I guess I will stick with All Dead Inside until something changes.
Posted by: some random meathead at August 24, 2015 04:48 PM (gbIds)
Who is Medically Induced Coma?
In that spirit, I think Not-so-Gabby Giffords might make a good candidate. Especially if we have another mass shooting of the right sort between now and then. The Gun Grabbers are next on the list, I think, and now may be the ripest time of all for them to push this past the squishes of Gope.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 24, 2015 04:53 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: slojo at August 24, 2015 04:53 PM (/eTPT)
Did he suggest it in a haughty British accent with just the right amount of distain for the flyover bumpkins?
That's when he's at his best.
Posted by: jwest at August 24, 2015 04:54 PM (P/xrJ)
That's what confuses me about Trump. Nothing hurts him. Nothing even slows him down. I used to think he was going to flame out by finally saying something even his supporters couldn't stand, but it doesn't matter what he says any more. He just keeps snowballing. Its the strangest thing, we're in such a weird, stupid time.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 24, 2015 04:54 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2015 04:54 PM (sPO3u)
Posted by: Michael Bloomberg at August 24, 2015 04:54 PM (+c55T)
Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 24, 2015 04:54 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at August 24, 2015 04:54 PM (WjXce)
Because Biden and Fauxcahontas are an improvement for the dems. And trump is an improvement for the repubs.
Slop hatch.
Posted by: simplemind at August 24, 2015 04:54 PM (5vV+V)
Posted by: Joe Choo-Choo Biden at August 24, 2015 04:55 PM (9my4x)
Posted by: Jo Jo Biden at August 24, 2015 04:45 PM (OiFtZ)
Dims love them some tear-jerking sentimentalism.
If Biden can work up some fake tears at his nomination speech,
he might just pull in the necessary votes.
Warren will run out an throw a cape over Biden's shoulders like James Brown and-
Biden will exhaustedly be led halfway off stage-
only to come running back to the mike to blather some more.
Rinse, repeat.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 24, 2015 04:55 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: Decaf at August 24, 2015 04:56 PM (yZKzN)
Posted by: Boss Moss at August 24, 2015 04:57 PM (OO77h)
Fiorina or Cruz might be able to handle bully-Biden in a debate.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 24, 2015 04:57 PM (cN9Sk)
Posted by: LizLem at August 24, 2015 04:58 PM (hvf9s)
And I don't even know if Warren has kids, much less grandchildren.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 24, 2015 04:58 PM (OSs/l)
Trump's get played out on Entertainment Tonight weekly.
THAT is what scares the shit out of the GOPe. They have nothing left. When they DO get something, the paparazzi spills it befote they can threaten him with it.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 24, 2015 04:58 PM (4dbPD)
Literally. Not Joe Biden literally, but literally literally.
Posted by: blaster at August 24, 2015 04:59 PM (EMtSF)
Posted by: Boss Moss at August 24, 2015 04:59 PM (OO77h)
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 24, 2015 04:59 PM (+c55T)
Interesting to see how this develops but we were ALWAYS better off going against a Clinton.
How some fail to see this is BEYOND me.
Posted by: prescient11 at August 24, 2015 04:59 PM (q5APL)
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Posted by: Democrats at August 24, 2015 04:59 PM (9Du4t)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 24, 2015 05:00 PM (39g3+)
@ #404
I'll tell you what's really weird about Trump.
I had no idea I would find myself supporting him. I couldn't stand him in 2012.
I didn't take him at all seriously at the beginning of this election cycle.
But he fully (and believably) committed to an issue I think is vital, and without realizing it I was suddenly in his favor.
And I think that might be true for lots of other conservatives who don't look at Trump as a conservative.
- But we do look at Trump as right-of-center and reliably conservative against Illegal Immigration.
And with that view, I (and likely others) began to see the advantages of independence in Trump.
HE CAN'T BE BOUGHT.
HE'S AN OUTSIDER.
Those last two Trump qualities were simply not all that interesting to me... until he became THE Champion on fighting Illegal Immigration.
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 24, 2015 05:00 PM (l2dSQ)
I don't know why we haven't taken care of ISIS yet. If I was president I would just unleash The Avengers on them and be done with it!
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when i'm done with them they'll be known as WASWAS.
Posted by: slojo at August 24, 2015 05:01 PM (/eTPT)
Posted by: LizLem at August 24, 2015 04:50 PM (hvf9s)
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I'm ready for down and dirty. It's about time the repubs woke up to this. The only person that seems to realize where the fight is is Trump. That's why he's resonating with Americans. He's not afraid of getting his hands soiled. The other repub candidates look like pajama-boys in comparison.
Posted by: Joey Biden at August 24, 2015 05:01 PM (P25Hh)
Trump just went full Biden. You never go full Biden.
Posted by: Kirk Lazarus at August 24, 2015 05:01 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Boss Moss at August 24, 2015 05:01 PM (OO77h)
Posted by: Soona at August 24, 2015 05:02 PM (P25Hh)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 24, 2015 05:02 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 24, 2015 05:02 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 24, 2015 05:02 PM (b4BG0)
I'm sure Hollywood script writers are on top of this story transition right now. Probably a bidding war.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 24, 2015 05:03 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 24, 2015 05:03 PM (UhRGU)
Milo Bloom: He's awful!
Opus: But he's honest about it.
Milo: So he's HONESTLY awful?!
Opus: which somehow beats "dishonestly wonderful."
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meh. Trump haters never attack Trump's policies, since pro-Trumpers like them and anti-Trumpers want to avoid having a conversation about them at all.
So the attack his person. But that too fails, since whatever insult they hurl at him is usually more applicable to the other candidates.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 24, 2015 05:04 PM (E5UB0)
Warren could be inflicted with some serious damage if she went with this scenario.
Boy, would the deal to her have to be THAT good, and ironclad if she were to accept.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 24, 2015 05:05 PM (qCMvj)
Because Trump is more of an entertainer than a politician, people are used to him.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 24, 2015 05:05 PM (4dbPD)
In digging for Trump news I found rumors of him using mob connections to get things built. One thing undeniable is he will do what has to be done to get things done. He's proven that, he's bragged about that. But I don't know if the mob accusations have any merit. And it's not like rumors of having them slowed down Kennedy or Obama any.
Posted by: LizLem at August 24, 2015 05:06 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 24, 2015 05:06 PM (E5UB0)
http://bit.ly/1hDfo2I
Oh that's hilarious.
Also, https://youtu.be/E2EoqW-tkcg
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at August 24, 2015 05:06 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Old Hob at August 24, 2015 05:06 PM (Z+7WE)
No, people like those three need to suffer in their own shitty diapers in an Obamacare plan.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 24, 2015 05:06 PM (vZ9f2)
The thing for me is I don't believe him. He just says shit. I do give him credit though for bringing out just how many people are frustrated with the illegal immigration in this country while saying his shit.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 24, 2015 05:07 PM (ODxAs)
Clinic want to thank President Obama for limiting the damage to that dow jones thing today. Obviouslly the Dow Jones thing crashed because Bush lied and luckily we had Presdent Obama there to save us from it going any lower. Thank you Sir and we love you !!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at August 24, 2015 05:07 PM (lNSdJ)
Posted by: rickb223
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Also, he's not gaining either.. He has hit his ceiling of 20% - 25%.. the field will have to be winnowed a bit for anyone else to stand out.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 24, 2015 05:07 PM (so+oy)
Posted by: Donald T at August 24, 2015 05:07 PM (/eTPT)
Biden's 73rd gaffe in office:
"I'm having Liz over for a pow wow. We hope to scalp the Mexicans over this deal."
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 24, 2015 05:07 PM (UhRGU)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 24, 2015 05:08 PM (XUKZU)
NY/NJ/Atlantic City. I think you gotta deal with the mob there to get the trash taken out.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 24, 2015 05:08 PM (LA7Cm)
And when I say that I wasn't interested in Trump's independence and the fact that he can't be bought: I mean that I just hadn't given it any consideration at all because he didn't seem represent anything at all (except not being a Democrat).
Once he came to seriously represent a major conservative issue: all of his other major advantages began to shine. He's a kick-ass fighter. He can't be bought. He's a political outsider alien to the perverse ways of the Beltway. He's self-made and no one can outspend him in the general election.
Short of Cruz or Jinal climbing to the top of the polls, Trump is the obvious way to go.
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 24, 2015 05:08 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: LizLem
If you want anything built in NYC you better be able to work with the mob. Garbage collection, concrete, unions all are mobbed up.
Posted by: wrg500 at August 24, 2015 05:09 PM (C278+)
It's a con.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 24, 2015 05:09 PM (E5UB0)
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 24, 2015 05:10 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 24, 2015 05:05 PM (qCMvj)
I keep wondering if she'd even want it. Oh being first lady prez is historical yay and its a cushy gig. But at the moment she is coasting on a senate seat for life in Massachusetts and universal adoration by her party; why give that up? Maybe MAssholes that know her better can speak to what they think her ambitions are. If it was me, cozy senate seat for life sounds mighty fine.
Posted by: LizLem at August 24, 2015 05:10 PM (hvf9s)
And a porta potty cleaned.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 24, 2015 05:11 PM (4dbPD)
Posted by: Boss Moss at August 24, 2015 05:12 PM (OO77h)
Biden has no appeal, except to maybe a very small handful.
Warren, oh my god. What qualification does she present?
Mildly popular with the extreme left for . . . a year or so?
Kinda shows desperation from the progs.
Posted by: GBruno at August 24, 2015 05:13 PM (u49WF)
Yeah I don't know how true it is any longer, but it certainly was in the past. No way to do any construction at all without dealing with the mob and illegals. That economics class scene in Back to School was only partly joking.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 24, 2015 05:14 PM (39g3+)
Guy Mohawk @ comment # 443:
Fair enough. I used to look at Trump like that too.
He just seemed to be all about Trump. And nothing he said seemed substantive or really serious.
But the fact that Illegal Immigration is a MORTAL THREAT to the conservative movement should be taken into consideration here.
Trump has done more than bring the issue to the forefront.
Until another candidate is courageous enough to issue a Policy Paper on how he or she will combat Illegal Immigration: TRUMP IS THE LEADER ON THAT ISSUE.
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 24, 2015 05:15 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 24, 2015 05:16 PM (39g3+)
My claim to fame to run for preezy of the steezy was a speech in 2004. Your point is??
Posted by: Obama, I won! Historic! at August 24, 2015 05:16 PM (hvf9s)
Did you see the sickening sycophancy from Tarantino?
"I think he's fantastic. He's my favorite president, hands down, of my lifetime," the "Django Unchained" filmmaker told Vulture. "He's been awesome this past year. Especially the rapid, one-after-another-after-another-after-another aspect of it. It's almost like take no prisoners. His he-doesn't-give-a-sh*t attitude has just been so cool. Everyone always talks about these lame-duck presidents. I've never seen anybody end with this kind of ending. All the people who supported him along the way that questioned this or that and the other? All of their questions are being answered now."
Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 24, 2015 05:17 PM (XUKZU)
eh. Policy papers usually find their way to the waste bin once power is accumulated.
But listen, if he or any other president actually did what the sessions paper says, you would not find anyone happier than me about it.
Politics has made me a cynic.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 24, 2015 05:20 PM (ODxAs)
And here's another reason why I don't think Trump is only all about Trump and nothing else:
Trump already has more money than God.
Carefully committing himself to the toughest stance out there on Illegal Immigration is politically and financially RISKY.
- Major corporations and city mayors have predictably announced that they will be severing ties with Trump.
But what does Trump care: He already has more money than God.
And this makes me believe he's serious about it.
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 24, 2015 05:21 PM (l2dSQ)
Guy Mohawk,
I won't pretend like it's impossible that Trump could utterly jettison any position he takes to get elected once he's President.
But that's true for any politician.
But I would like to point out that any politician who utterly reneges on such a major promise to his base supporters KNOWS that he is a guaranteed one-termer who will be hated by those who supported him the most.
That just doesn't sound like Trump. - To make a move that he knows will relegate himself as one of history's hated losers.
What's the point of that?
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 24, 2015 05:26 PM (l2dSQ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 24, 2015 05:26 PM (OSs/l)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 24, 2015 05:31 PM (OSs/l)
Not. Gonna. Say. A. Word.
Posted by: Daybrother at August 24, 2015 05:36 PM (uTmQ9)
Posted by: Eli Cash at August 24, 2015 05:37 PM (a+WIL)
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Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 24, 2015 05:38 PM (OSs/l)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 24, 2015 05:31 PM (OSs/l)
It will never happen, but would be awesome to ask her if she felt she deserved to be paid that much vs an adjunct. When she says yes because experience or qualifications or whatever, ask her why that does not also apply to business owners. Do they not also deserve a higher salary for their experience and qualifications?
Again, questions that will never be asked.
Posted by: LizLem at August 24, 2015 05:39 PM (hvf9s)
It's a con.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at August 24, 2015 05:09 PM (E5UB0)
Yes, that is the case.
Hey progressives, I'm going to eff you up with Trump.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at August 24, 2015 05:44 PM (LXJ1e)
Pinging out to comment # 471:
I figure God doesn't have all that much use for money.
(Of course, then Teh Trump's soul is hardly distinguished by his wealth.
But as a Christian, that's the way I see it anyway.)
:-)
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