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— Mac Faulkner (@macfaulkner) August 21, 2015

This is real. Go here, toggle between international and US editions (top right corner, in the black band).

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1 Suckers of cock.

Posted by: David, infamous sockpuppet at August 21, 2015 08:38 PM (1TUV/)

2 thank God for The United States Marines

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 21, 2015 08:41 PM (0O7c5)

3 CNN just got a huge boo at Trump's rally. Funny, since CNN has the rally on live.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 21, 2015 08:42 PM (8ZskC)

4 Come here, CNN.

Posted by: Bag o Dicks at August 21, 2015 08:42 PM (Vf5rR)

5 FU CNN

Posted by: logprof at August 21, 2015 08:42 PM (vsbNu)

6 Un fukcing believeable fukcers

Posted by: Cicero Skip at August 21, 2015 08:43 PM (zwdYG)

7 Gah!
What a$$holes!!!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2015 08:43 PM (NOIQH)

8 They changed it to "2 US Service Members" now....

Posted by: KWDreaming at August 21, 2015 08:44 PM (Y00o2)

9 Heh, actor injured?

Saw a pic of the suspect. He looks like he was worked over by the Avengers. Thor used his hammer a lot.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 08:44 PM (39g3+)

10 At least the article appears to be the same.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at August 21, 2015 08:44 PM (jR7Wy)

11 What's the difference between an "Islamist sympathizer" attack and a "Islamic terrorist" attack?

Seriously, WTF is THAT all about?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2015 08:44 PM (NOIQH)

12 Quelle surprise

Posted by: Biggie Large at August 21, 2015 08:45 PM (8CdUx)

13 Poles injured by undocumented Germans.

Posted by: CNN 1939 at August 21, 2015 08:46 PM (vsbNu)

14 Fitting that the French actor mentioned had only suffered a cut on his hand while breaking the glass covering the emergency stop button. Self-inflicted when asking others for help. Yep, that's the french.

Posted by: slick at August 21, 2015 08:46 PM (MDk4p)

15 Meh. Tailoring a story to different countries isn't abnormal. Kind of a dick move in this case, though.

Posted by: The Tailored Hat at August 21, 2015 08:46 PM (7YlUk)

16 even better, hit the arabic version, and let google translate it, its the second story down

Posted by: Wyfaggro at August 21, 2015 08:47 PM (cwhId)

17 Dear Communist News Network, DIAF you leftist POS, donkey fluffing, a**holes!

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 21, 2015 08:47 PM (hVdx9)

18 >>Heh, actor injured?

Yeah, leading with an actor being injured by the terrorist, never mind that a US Marine was injured *stopping the armed terrorist with his bare hands*.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2015 08:47 PM (NOIQH)

19 Poles injured by undocumented Germans.

Posted by: CNN 1939 at August 21, 2015 08:46 PM (vsbNu)

It's an act of love...

Posted by: Herr Jeb! at August 21, 2015 08:47 PM (7YlUk)

20 France victorious over Germans.

Posted by: CNN 1945 at August 21, 2015 08:48 PM (Vf5rR)

21 Fitting that the French actor mentioned had only suffered a cut on his hand while breaking the glass covering the emergency stop button. Self-inflicted when asking others for help. Yep, that's the french.

Posted by: slick
****

He had stopped the train in order to properly surrender.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 21, 2015 08:48 PM (hVdx9)

22 isn't Mac Faulkner from The Chive?

that is bad ass

Posted by: The Chicken at August 21, 2015 08:48 PM (pJTZb)

23 I'm not really surprised. But I am a little confused at which part is supposed to be outrageous. Is it that the International edition doesn't mention Americans, and focuses on an actor for some inexplicable reason? Or that the US edition doesn't call out the perp's Islamic motivation?

Posted by: redsweater at August 21, 2015 08:48 PM (v8Svi)

24 'Actor'? What a weird choice.

Posted by: Lea at August 21, 2015 08:48 PM (vmMMi)

25 Actor injured on emergency brake glass...even better.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2015 08:49 PM (NOIQH)

26 I'm surprised it isn't reversed.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 21, 2015 08:49 PM (z/Ubi)

27 Japanese disrupt shipping at Pearl Harbor

Posted by: CNN:1941 at August 21, 2015 08:49 PM (EDYaR)

28 Hey, I'm not machine-gunning a trainload of defenseless and unsuspecting people, I'm sympathizing religiously!

Posted by: t-bird at August 21, 2015 08:50 PM (FcR7P)

29 The US version avoiding being clear on the Muslim Terrorist's intent is pretty annoying but other than that, shrug. Leading with an actor is a bit odd, but maybe that's what the French like to see. Mon Dieu, not an actor!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 08:50 PM (39g3+)

30 /sock fail

Posted by: Jake at August 21, 2015 08:50 PM (pJTZb)

31 I think one of those shot was an actor.

That's how I read that terribly horribly written shitpile of a
headline.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2015 08:50 PM (MDgS8)

32 Undocumented Germans, Bulgarians, Romanians, now spotted in Soviet Union.

Posted by: CNN 1941 at August 21, 2015 08:51 PM (vsbNu)

33 23 But I am a little confused at which part is supposed to be outrageous. Is it that the International edition doesn't mention Americans, and focuses on an actor for some inexplicable reason? Or that the US edition doesn't call out the perp's Islamic motivation?

Posted by: redsweater at August 21, 2015 08:48 PM (v8Svi)

Whoa, I didn't pick up on that second part.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2015 08:51 PM (sdi6R)

34 "Many die in European camps."

CNN's breaking news of the Holocaust.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2015 08:52 PM (MDgS8)

35 Disgruntled theatergoer vents frustration at Lincoln

Posted by: CNN:1865 at August 21, 2015 08:52 PM (EDYaR)

36 On the 1018th day, HE also rested.

Posted by: The Book of Barack at August 21, 2015 08:54 PM (FcR7P)

37 >> But I am a little confused at which part is supposed to be outrageous.

The primary focus to the international headline is about a (famous) bystander being injured (self-inflicted) in a terrorist attack in which the attack itself was thwarted by three other bystanders, US Marines. I mean, if there's a noteworthy bystander in that scenario, it would be the one(s) who stopped the attack, no?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2015 08:54 PM (NOIQH)

38 What's the difference between an "Islamist sympathizer" attack and a "Islamic terrorist" attack?

***

I would steal that and just might

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at August 21, 2015 08:54 PM (dANw2)

39 34 "Many die in European camps."
CNN's breaking news of the Holocaust.
Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2015 08:52 PM (MDgS

"Holidaymakers report dissatisfaction with resorts"

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 21, 2015 08:55 PM (oKE6c)

40 "German investments in London urban renewal meet with resistance in Britain."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at August 21, 2015 08:56 PM (jR7Wy)

41 'Actor'? What a weird choice.

That's how they would've reported the attempt on Reagan, too.

Posted by: t-bird at August 21, 2015 08:57 PM (FcR7P)

42 Islamic gun enthusiast deprived of chance to showcase hobby

Posted by: This is CNN! at August 21, 2015 08:57 PM (EDYaR)

43 The primary focus to the international headline is about a (famous) bystander being injured (self-inflicted) in a terrorist attack in which the attack itself was thwarted by three other bystanders, US Marines. I mean, if there's a noteworthy bystander in that scenario, it would be the one(s) who stopped the attack, no?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2015 08:54 PM (NOIQH)

Yeah, figured it was that, given that the Marines aren't just notable, but f-ing heroes in this. But censoring Islam out of the US edition is pretty insulting, too.

I'm gonna go with "both." I chalk it up to two separate headline writers, both of them being leftist idiots.

Posted by: redsweater at August 21, 2015 08:58 PM (v8Svi)

44 "Islamist" is apparently a word to be withheld from Americans. Like "nipple". I get a tingle up my leg just typing it. Maybe Facebook will accept Islaminipple.

Posted by: bruce at August 21, 2015 08:58 PM (CDJHJ)

45 French actor injured in Flight 93 attack, unable to reach scheduled destination.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2015 08:59 PM (NOIQH)

46 I am not opposed to a more neutral tone in reporting, if its consistent. As in: if you're going to avoid being judgmental about any actions in your headlines and reporting, do that with all your reporting, not just the stories you are trying to avoid upsetting some group in.

My least favorite trick the news uses is with ballot measure names. A ballot measure they don't care about is always by its official name: the Street Curb Repainting Act. One they like gets the most positive spin: The Community Beautification and Safety Act. One they don't like they get from the opposition PAC's team: The Street Tax Increase Act.

Its so obvious and so unprofessional.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 08:59 PM (39g3+)

47 LMAO at Trump explaining why he doesn't have a pollster.

Posted by: logprof at August 21, 2015 09:00 PM (vsbNu)

48 International Edition, CNN, Sept. 11, 2001:

Travelers Inconvenienced By Canceled Flights.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2015 09:00 PM (Dj0WE)

49 Two Americans attack Muslim for acting out of fear.

Actor saves muslim from attack by 2 american crazies.

Posted by: willow at August 21, 2015 09:00 PM (nqBYe)

50 "Both of my parents drank far too much. Both of them had serious problems with alcohol" Cruz, 43, said. "When I was 3 years old, my father decided he didn't want to be married anymore and he didn't want a 3-year-old son, so he got on a plane and left."

-
I read a book some years ago, whose title I no longer remember, about the parents of presidents. It was amazing how many fathers were absent or otherwise unavailable.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 21, 2015 09:00 PM (Nwg0u)

51 >>But censoring Islam out of the US edition is pretty insulting, too.

Certainly, but that's standard.
It's outrageous that they are intentionally hiding the heroism of US Marines.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2015 09:00 PM (NOIQH)

52 Newborns dead in Venazuela hospital due to bacteria from opossum infestation.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-33997703

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at August 21, 2015 09:01 PM (PHxng)

53 This doesn't surprise me at all. At the CNN HQ the international desks are on a completely different floor than the US desks.

I doubt they even talk to each other.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:01 PM (0FSuD)

54 Apparently CNN assumes the French hates Americans as much as they do.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 21, 2015 09:02 PM (hVdx9)

55 I'm watching the live TrumpStream (TM) from AL.

He complained about companies moving plants out of the USA but didn't mention *why* that's happening (overzealous governmental regulation, taxation, unions, etc).

Eh....

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at August 21, 2015 09:02 PM (EHU9F)

56 Marines accused of profiling Islamist gun enthusiast

Posted by: This is CNN! at August 21, 2015 09:02 PM (EDYaR)

57 It was amazing how many fathers were absent or otherwise unavailable.

And, due to the pressures of high office and campaigning, I bet they're not around much for their kids, either.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:02 PM (39g3+)

58 Maybe the wounded Marine was a part time actor.

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 21, 2015 09:03 PM (I5hoQ)

59 Had the US Marines not been there, the headline would be: Actor killed in mass shooting on train.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2015 09:03 PM (NOIQH)

60 You CNN is bad? NY Slime still will not print that the "two Americans" were Marines.

Wonder why? Leftest assholes

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:03 PM (0FSuD)

61 Danny is Category 3 now.

10 years after Katrina.

Posted by: logprof at August 21, 2015 09:04 PM (vsbNu)

62 Fuck these fucking fucks.

Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at August 21, 2015 09:04 PM (rHXGG)

63 Americans Demonstrate The Benefits Of Gun Confiscation

Posted by: CNN, Full Narrative Edition at August 21, 2015 09:04 PM (FcR7P)

64 Still trying to wrap my head around the bullshit that emanated out of GMs mouth today on the podcast about stateless individuals.

He truly is indicative of the brain dead assholes who are spat forth from the gates of hell that have become the lawyer class.

I can't stand that MFr.

On a positve note Cookes hatred of Trump was definitely constrained by the fact that he does seems to be the only serious candidate running for the Presidency.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 21, 2015 09:06 PM (WVvzl)

65 I read a book some years ago, whose title I no longer remember, about the parents of presidents. It was amazing how many fathers were absent or otherwise unavailable.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 21, 2015 09:00 PM (Nwg0u)

Read on. Our little troll from the previous thread wants you to believe Cruz's father was a deadbeat dad.

Which is not true. Cruz is talking about his father BEFORE he found Jesus Christ. After he did so, he became the father Ted needed and wanted.

It's a powerful redemption story, one Cruz makes to talk about how real his father's faith, and his own is. To use it to paint his father as some sort of loser is evil.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2015 09:06 PM (Dj0WE)

66 I like how the Marine training is highlighted: they heard what sounded like an AK-47 being loaded in the restroom compartment. Distinctive.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:06 PM (39g3+)

67 22 isn't Mac Faulkner from The Chive?

Yes. Despite a leftist bent, the site is very pro-military, which isn't all that unusual in Austin

Posted by: Boone at August 21, 2015 09:07 PM (fHQSR)

68 HR trinken trinken trinken

--Ich also

Posted by: logprof at August 21, 2015 09:08 PM (vsbNu)

69 Donald Trump on the TV; Fox, CNN, MSNBC.

If you want to try to understand why he is leading in the polls, watch his common touch with the crowd, how he speaks directly to them, in a conversational way.
Not like a condescending political pro.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at August 21, 2015 09:09 PM (+1T7c)

70 Trinken Beir oder Schnapps?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:09 PM (39g3+)

71 It's interesting that the Daily Mail (!!!) has this story front and center on its webpage, with full kudos to US Marines saving hundreds on the train. Being the Daily Mail, they have lots of bloody pictures as well, but they are forthright about giving credit to the Marines for stopping a massacre. Apparently the perp had 300 rounds of ammo in his backpack.

Also interesting are the comments, which are very pro-America/pro-Marine. Refreshing.

Posted by: Moki at August 21, 2015 09:09 PM (x303I)

72 Alot of Love ones are coming home tonite. Thanks to the US Marines.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at August 21, 2015 09:09 PM (/BTP8)

73 Now the NY Slime, because of the embarrassing comments, is reporting "that some news outlets report that Americans were Marines"

Every Fvcking news outlet but you asshats.

Translation, everyone says they were Marines, but we won't cause you know, we are assholes

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:09 PM (0FSuD)

74 60 You CNN is bad? NY Slime still will not print that the "two Americans" were Marines.
Wonder why?
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:03 PM (0FSuD)

Because they weren't gay?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 21, 2015 09:09 PM (oKE6c)

75 Sorry for the OT post so early @55. Also, I'm not anti-Trump; I'm just watching him live for the first time.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/qx8oyz4

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at August 21, 2015 09:09 PM (EHU9F)

76 US Marines Attack Pious Muslim, Who Injures Them In Self-Defense.

Posted by: CNN, As You Like It at August 21, 2015 09:10 PM (FcR7P)

77 I have not gone to CNN or its affiliates for non-sports news in over 10 years.

Posted by: logprof at August 21, 2015 09:11 PM (vsbNu)

78 Par for the course.

Posted by: Y-not at August 21, 2015 09:11 PM (RWGcK)

79 69
Donald Trump on the TV; Fox, CNN, MSNBC.

If you want to try
to understand why he is leading in the polls, watch his common touch
with the crowd, how he speaks directly to them, in a conversational way.
Not like a condescending political pro.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at August 21, 2015 09:09 PM (+1T7c)

So on a Friday night, Cable News is giving Trump more coverage than they give teh President? Over an hour of FREE media.

Nah, they don't want to fvck up the Republican primary, not at all, just covering the news.
Right, got it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:11 PM (0FSuD)

80 Danny is a fish storm

Posted by: tmitsss at August 21, 2015 09:12 PM (XAYp+)

81 Just a little reminder that, thanks to the genius establishment Republicans, the next primary debate is going to be hosted by... the very same CNN whose work you see here.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 21, 2015 09:12 PM (noWW6)

82 "Gun loving right wing social cons demonstrate belief in freedom of religion a lie by hateful assault of mostly peaceful Muslim sympathizer."

First draft of headline, but deemed too wordy.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:12 PM (39g3+)

83 I like how the Marine training is highlighted: they heard what sounded like an AK-47 being loaded in the restroom compartment. Distinctive.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor
****

As an owner of one, it really is. People who don't understand think it's BS.
It isn't.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 21, 2015 09:13 PM (hVdx9)

84 King Kong as depicted by CNN International: Actress injured in escaped primate attack.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2015 09:13 PM (NOIQH)

85 Pope Urban declares fatwa on Palestinian Muslims.

Posted by: CNN 1095 at August 21, 2015 09:13 PM (vsbNu)

86 #67, here at Fort Campbell there are probably a couple hundred cars with various The Chive and KCCO stickers on them. I don't get it. Must be a generation gap thing.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at August 21, 2015 09:13 PM (qlpyb)

87 U.S. Imperialists Assault Muslim Practicing His Beliefs

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 21, 2015 09:13 PM (hVdx9)

88 Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at August 21, 2015 09:09 PM (+1T

I watched for ten minutes. I said in other thread that I know most here feel as you do but it was embarrassing to me. It was like watching Michael Scott. He's all over the place. I'll refrain from any further Trump snark from here on out.

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 21, 2015 09:14 PM (I5hoQ)

89 watching Trump, must say I'm impressed that he seems to have notes but seems to be winging it. I can't imagine Hillary! doing that.

Ok, I will say, Trump vs Hillary, I support Trump. Even more so if he says he'll nominate Cruz for Atty Gen.

Posted by: mallfly at August 21, 2015 09:15 PM (qSIlh)

90 "We're Not Gonna Take It" playing again.

Posted by: logprof at August 21, 2015 09:15 PM (vsbNu)

91 So on a Friday night, Cable News is giving Trump more coverage than they give teh President? Over an hour of FREE media.

Scanned the channels and MSNBC was doing Rachel loves Bernie.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 21, 2015 09:15 PM (W5DcG)

92 @79

It's about ratings and promoting their debate next month.

Trump is a top draw.

Simple logic would dictate that they would give him coverage.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 21, 2015 09:15 PM (WVvzl)

93 84 King Kong as depicted by CNN International: Actress injured in escaped primate attack.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2015 09:13 PM (NOIQH)

Nope...

Headline would be...

US Air Force slaughters Endangered Species.

Posted by: BB Wolf at August 21, 2015 09:16 PM (qh617)

94 Again, I thought I couldn't like Trump anymore than i did and I was wrong.

Man Crush is within sight.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at August 21, 2015 09:16 PM (f+6Pd)

95 This is the AK-47 assault rifle, the preferred weapon of your enemy, and it makes a very distinctive sound when fired at you, so remember it.

https://youtu.be/oIv_RrgCfWs

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:16 PM (39g3+)

96 Nah, they don't want to fvck up the Republican primary, not at all, just covering the news.
Right, got it.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:11 PM (0FSuD)

Serious question: You don't already think the Republican Party Primary show is a fustercluck, all by itself, WITHOUT any help from CNN?

Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2015 09:16 PM (Dj0WE)

97 @91

Was just taking commentator's word @69. I never watch MSDNC

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:16 PM (0FSuD)

98
News Horse?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2015 09:16 PM (St6BJ)

99
Noose Whores?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2015 09:17 PM (St6BJ)

100 Damn, the bags under Hill-Dawg's eyes.

Posted by: logprof at August 21, 2015 09:17 PM (vsbNu)

101 trumpsteam was awesome.

#TrumpWinning

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at August 21, 2015 09:17 PM (dANw2)

102 >>.. but it was embarrassing to me. It was like watching Michael Scott. He's all over the place.

Yeah, got cringeworthy when he talking about "beautiful women". He's hitting the right notes, bringing up things like Bowie Bergdahl, but I think his unscripted story-teller, casual talk is going to wear thin. We'll see.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2015 09:17 PM (NOIQH)

103 In Spanish it says something about two US Marines escaping the attack I think.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 21, 2015 09:17 PM (fhF1E)

104 Serious question: You don't already think the
Republican Party Primary show is a fustercluck, all by itself,
WITHOUT any help from CNN?

Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2015 09:16 PM (Dj0WE)

Something we can agree on! No doubt. The point is the free OX for Trump feeds the fire and legitimizes his clown act.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:18 PM (0FSuD)

105 Trump rally just ended. Anyone know what song they're playing?

Posted by: Emily at August 21, 2015 09:18 PM (7Rn+/)

106 We was gonna get a GRATE nominee... until that Trump fellow came along!

Really?

REALLY???

Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2015 09:18 PM (Dj0WE)

107 CNN was founded by Ted Turner, who was married to Jane Fonda for more than 10 minutes and yet did not strangle her.

Draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 21, 2015 09:18 PM (oKE6c)

108 France should ban AK's.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 21, 2015 09:18 PM (fhF1E)

109 It's about ratings and promoting their debate next month.

Trump is a top draw.

Well that and its something to cover other than Hillary's email troubles, the latest ghastly Planned Parenthood video, the massacred Syrian troops Obama sent over, etc, etc.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:18 PM (39g3+)

110 This is the AK-47 assault rifle, the preferred weapon of your enemy, and it makes a very distinctive sound when fired at you, so remember it.

https://youtu.be/oIv_RrgCfWs

***

verynice

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at August 21, 2015 09:19 PM (dANw2)

111 LMAO at Trump explaining why he doesn't have a pollster.
Posted by: logprof at August 21, 2015 09:00 PM

Trump is rocking it. He just said the best part of the Iranian negotiations is that our main negotiator broke his leg riding a bicycle!

Posted by: Farmer at August 21, 2015 09:19 PM (o/90i)

112 Scanned the channels and MSNBC was doing Rachel loves Bernie.

I don't think MSNBC worries about ratings. If they do, you'd never know it.

Posted by: tu3031 at August 21, 2015 09:19 PM (EDYaR)

113 Newborns dead in Venazuela hospital due to bacteria from opossum infestation.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-33997703

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at August 21, 2015 09:01 PM (PHxng)

We call the big one "Bitey"

Posted by: Planned Parenthood at August 21, 2015 09:19 PM (7YlUk)

114 CNN was founded by Ted Turner, who was married to Jane Fonda for more than 10 minutes and yet did not strangle her.

She can probably keep her mouth shut for at least 10 minutes.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:19 PM (39g3+)

115 I watched for ten minutes. I said in other thread
that I know most here feel as you do but it was embarrassing to me. It
was like watching Michael Scott. He's all over the place. I'll refrain
from any further Trump snark from here on out.

Posted by: Cruzinator

It's not how I "Feel". I don't think with my feelings. Some people refuse to acknowledge that Trump is real. They think he's a buffoon, a clown, etc.

Pay attention a little. Yes, his message discipline is weak. But he connects with the crowd, in his manner of "stream of consciouness" kind of speaking.

He makes his points, in a roundabout way.
As Ed Rollins just said on Fox; he's a great salesman, he's selling America. He's selling the idea of America back to the people. Is that a bad message?

After 7 years of Obama degrading the American ideal, he's a guy who's saying "we're going to be great again. I'm not selling the country down the river."

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at August 21, 2015 09:20 PM (+1T7c)

116 Was just watching Trump while eating dinner with my 86 year old Mom...

She would not even listen to him... walked out of the room...

Even though just about everything he said... she has agreed with in the Past...

Said he was just a rabble rouser.... and get this... was glad she was probably not going to be around to see where America was going...

Trump derangement syndrome apparently also affects the elderly.

Posted by: BB Wolf at August 21, 2015 09:20 PM (qh617)

117 It's a double edged sword for Trump.

He can't be too scripted because then he will lose his authenticity and sound like every other politician but the fly by the seat of your pants tap dancing on the edge of the razor blade stream of consciousness is definitely going to burn him at some point.

But I'm loving it right now.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 21, 2015 09:20 PM (WVvzl)

118 105
Trump rally just ended. Anyone know what song they're playing?

Posted by: Emily at August 21, 2015 09:18 PM (7Rn+/)

This?
http://tinyurl.com/nn2lv5h

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:21 PM (0FSuD)

119 legitimizes his clown act.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:18 PM (0FSuD)

No, he's doing just fine legitimizing it himself.

Are you really asking us to take the other 16 seriously?

If so, how?

Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2015 09:21 PM (Dj0WE)

120 She can probably keep her mouth shut for at least 10 minutes.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor
****

The trick is to keep her mouth full, IYKWIM.

Posted by: Ted Turner at August 21, 2015 09:21 PM (hVdx9)

121
Everyone that I know in the Military calls CNN - the Communist News Network - the Nazis would be so proud of the propaganda they spew.

No shame, askholes.

Askhole - (noun) Someone who asks many repeated stupid, pointless and or obnoxious questions.

Posted by: GBruno at August 21, 2015 09:22 PM (u49WF)

122 Newborns dead in Venazuela hospital due to bacteria from opossum infestation.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-33997703

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at August 21, 2015 09:01 PM (PHxng)

$10 says these newborns don't show up in Venezuela's infant mortality stats.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 21, 2015 09:22 PM (JO9+V)

123 Donald Trump and the Sixteen Dwarfs.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 21, 2015 09:22 PM (fhF1E)

124 Barky will probably ignore those Marines. Trumo should fly them in on his plane.

Posted by: freaked at August 21, 2015 09:22 PM (BO/km)

125 Trump derangement syndrome apparently also affects the elderly.

Or she knows something you don't.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:22 PM (39g3+)

126 Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at August 21, 2015 09:20 PM (+1T7c)

Okay 'think as you do...' . Still embarrassing to me . And I've been paying attention to Trump for over a decade.

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 21, 2015 09:23 PM (I5hoQ)

127 38
What's the difference between an "Islamist sympathizer" attack and a "Islamic terrorist" attack?

***

Sympathizers are moderate easy going live and die dhimmi die muslims, terrorists are right wing evangelical muslims.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 21, 2015 09:23 PM (NaeCR)

128 There's Trumo again.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 21, 2015 09:23 PM (W5DcG)

129 Said he was just a rabble rouser.... and get this...
was glad she was probably not going to be around to see where America
was going...

Trump derangement syndrome apparently also affects the elderly.

Posted by: BB Wolf at August 21, 2015 09:20 PM (qh617)

Is she happy with its current direction, down the toilet?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2015 09:24 PM (DiZBp)

130 I have another question for all you Trump haters out there:

If The Donald does not secure the nomination for himself, yet somehow manages to chase Jeb! and every other illegal mexican loving candidate off the stage (thus securing a non-illegal mexican loving candidate the nomination), will you be happy with that result?

Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2015 09:24 PM (Dj0WE)

131
Funny, isn't it?

We all complain about how weak politicians are, but some of us, even here, just aren't comfortable with an outspoken politician...who says exactly the same things we say to each other in our daily lives.

Posted by: Soothsayer rose above the noise and confusion just to get a glimpse beyond the illusion at August 21, 2015 09:24 PM (qb1RU)

132 >>he's selling America. He's selling the idea of America back to the people.

I would like to point out that Michael Scott was actually a salesman.

So he's a salesman, but what kind? Can he be trusted. That is my main question.

Posted by: Lea at August 21, 2015 09:24 PM (vmMMi)

133 105 Trump rally just ended. Anyone know what song they're playing?
Posted by: Emily at August 21, 2015 09:18 PM (7Rn+/)

--Twisted Sister's "We're Not Gonna Take It"?

Posted by: logprof at August 21, 2015 09:25 PM (vsbNu)

134 Meh, it's not hard to understand that the rest of the world doesn't want to be reminded that when it comes to action against terrorists, U.S. Marines rock and they don't.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 21, 2015 09:25 PM (KlVdw)

135 61 Danny is Category 3 now.

10 years after Katrina.
Posted by: logprof

BWHAHAHAHAHA!!!! AND YOU THOUGHT YOU SAW THE LAST OF ME!!!! BWHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Dick Cheney and the Weather Machine of Doom at August 21, 2015 09:25 PM (NGd+i)

136 These assholes are so over the top that you can't even caricature them anymore.

Posted by: 1bulwetweft at August 21, 2015 09:26 PM (r1eQf)

137 Nobody knows
The trumo I seen

Posted by: freaked at August 21, 2015 09:26 PM (BO/km)

138 Trump derangement syndrome apparently also affects the elderly.

Or she knows something you don't.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:22 PM (39g3+)

LOL.... weak... very weak....

so you will write someone off without even bothering to LISTEN to them?

Interesting...

Posted by: BB Wolf at August 21, 2015 09:26 PM (qh617)

139 The power, is in the hands of the powerless?

Who said that?

Posted by: Ted Turner at August 21, 2015 09:26 PM (hVdx9)

140 We all complain about how weak politicians are

I think that's where most of Trump's cheering comes from right now. Not that people believe he means a single word he says, but that he's saying what they wish someone has for a long time now. That doesn't necessarily translate into votes but it does into polling.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:26 PM (39g3+)

141 The Depth Charges are ready.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 21, 2015 09:26 PM (fhF1E)

142 Shaun King...a trusted voice of reason and honesty at CNN.

Posted by: Thurston Howell Trump at August 21, 2015 09:26 PM (1tUaO)

143 so you will write someone off without even bothering to LISTEN to them?

I'm not willing to assume elderly people are stupid and deranged for disagreeing with me, is all. All that stuff you know and learned over the years?

That's old hat to them. They moved on years ago to other stuff you haven't even faced yet.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:27 PM (39g3+)

144 80 Danny is a fish storm
Posted by: tmitsss at August 21, 2015 09:12 PM (XAYp+)

Sharknado?

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2015 09:27 PM (sdi6R)

145
Certainly. Trump, for a lot of people, is a Voice.

People feel like they're finally being heard.

Posted by: Soothsayer rose above the noise and confusion just to get a glimpse beyond the illusion at August 21, 2015 09:27 PM (qb1RU)

146 We all complain about how weak politicians are, but
some of us, even here, just aren't comfortable with an outspoken
politician...who says exactly the same things we say to each other in
our daily lives.

Posted by: Soothsayer

It's cognitive dissonance. People have a clear idea of who Trump is, and so no matter what he says.....it just doesn't matter.

So, let's find that One True Conservative, whoever he or she is.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at August 21, 2015 09:28 PM (+1T7c)

147
So he's a salesman, but what kind? Can he be trusted. That is my main question.

Can he be trusted LESS than the party machine? I don't think that's possible.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 21, 2015 09:28 PM (oVJmc)

148
Is she happy with its current direction, down the toilet?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2015 09:24 PM (DiZBp)

Her constant mantra is that Repubs and Dems 'need to get along'.... and somehow thinks THAT is the problem...

Posted by: BB Wolf at August 21, 2015 09:28 PM (qh617)

149 eh, it's not hard to understand that the rest of the world doesn't want to be reminded that when it comes to action against terrorists, U.S. Marines rock and they don't.

Marines make the rest of humanity hold their manhoods cheap. Myself included.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:28 PM (39g3+)

150 Actor breaks leg while on stage.

Posted by: CNN, April 14, 1865 reporting from Ford's Theater at August 21, 2015 09:28 PM (/HC6x)

151 This! . . . is CNN

Posted by: Lion King at August 21, 2015 09:28 PM (JO9+V)

152 Trump rally just ended. Anyone know what song they're playing?

-
Donald Trump, Superstar?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 21, 2015 09:28 PM (Nwg0u)

153 Shaun King...a trusted voice of reason and honesty at CNN.

If Shaun King is black, why doesn't he let his hair grow out?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 21, 2015 09:29 PM (oVJmc)

154 Born in East L.A.?

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 21, 2015 09:29 PM (fhF1E)

155 People feel like they're finally being heard.

Of course, that's what people thought about Obama, too. Rousing the population with sophistry and populist speech, saying the things they like to hear can be very effective.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:29 PM (39g3+)

156 148 They get along too well as it is.Getting along with the Democrats is the worst thing for the country,for the whole world.

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2015 09:30 PM (sPO3u)

157 Springsteen's "ironic" song of triumph, Born in the USA?

Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2015 09:30 PM (Dj0WE)

158 Shaun King's childhood photos reveal that he is a Ginger.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 21, 2015 09:30 PM (fhF1E)

159 Maybe the Lee Greenwood thing?

Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2015 09:30 PM (Dj0WE)

160 I'm not willing to assume elderly people are stupid and deranged for disagreeing with me, is all. All that stuff you know and learned over the years?

That's old hat to them. They moved on years ago to other stuff you haven't even faced yet.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:27 PM (39g3+)

He says to the Man who moved in to take CARE of his Mother...

As usual, you speak without knowing anything about the situation....

But that pretty normal....

Posted by: BB Wolf at August 21, 2015 09:31 PM (qh617)

161 Billy Idol's Rebel Yell?

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 21, 2015 09:31 PM (JO9+V)

162
Nah, what people saw in obama was a man who was gonna stick it to The Man and raid the U.S. Treasury.

Posted by: Soothsayer rose above the noise and confusion just to get a glimpse beyond the illusion at August 21, 2015 09:31 PM (qb1RU)

163 Romley isn't running?

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 21, 2015 09:31 PM (fhF1E)

164 I'm not willing to assume elderly people are stupid and deranged for disagreeing with me, is all. All that stuff you know and learned over the years?

That's old hat to them. They moved on years ago to other stuff you haven't even faced yet.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:27 PM (39g3+)

So what's the cutoff age, then, for gaining existential ultimate authoritativeness? Just wondering.

Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2015 09:31 PM (JvPqF)

165 105 Trump rally just ended. Anyone know what song they're playing?
Posted by: Emily at August 21, 2015 09:18(PM (7Rn+/)

Soundgarten's "Outshined"?

Posted by: 1bulwetweft at August 21, 2015 09:31 PM (h65N1)

166 @155

Not for nothing, Obama has delivered for his constituents.

Besides a paper bag full of shit, what has the GOP given us over the course of the last 15 years?

Posted by: Kreplach at August 21, 2015 09:31 PM (WVvzl)

167 Of course, that's what people thought about Obama, too. Rousing the population with sophistry and populist speech, saying the things they like to hear can be very effective.

The problem is those people are stupid.

Posted by: freaked at August 21, 2015 09:31 PM (BO/km)

168 I find the Trump thing surreal.
I love a lot of the things he's saying, and that he's consulting with serious people, that he will not back down to the party or the media. It's a breath of fresh air. I just don't know what to make of all this after watching Trump for years as a larger than life, kinda clownish yet successful celebrity businessman.

If the Trump phenomenon is surreal, the last 6 years of Obama have been a freakin Twilight Zone episode, so many disturbing, non-sensical things. Whether its siding with Iran against Israel in a nuke deal, or apparently now having t pretend someone is whatever gender they say they are despite what's in their pants -- is anything normal anymore?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2015 09:31 PM (NOIQH)

169 Is Trump Kingfish?

Posted by: Ted Turner at August 21, 2015 09:31 PM (hVdx9)

170 105 Trump rally just ended. Anyone know what song they're playing?
---
Seriously?

Twisted Sister - We're not gonna take it.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at August 21, 2015 09:32 PM (MbrzC)

171 Springsteen's "ironic" song of triumph, Born in the USA?

Nah, The Boss would act like a bitch and tell him not to use it.

Posted by: tu3031 at August 21, 2015 09:32 PM (EDYaR)

172 AC / DC's Thunderstruck?

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 21, 2015 09:32 PM (JO9+V)

173 Nah, what people saw in obama was a man who was gonna stick it to The Man and raid the U.S. Treasury/

Some of them yeah, others saw the guy who was going to give the power back to the people, others saw the guy who was the voice of a new generation who "were the ones they have been waiting for." He was saying the stuff they wanted a politician to finally say.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:33 PM (39g3+)

174 145

Certainly. Trump, for a lot of people, is a Voice.

People feel like they're finally being heard.

I agree, and this explains the attraction. A billionaire telling the establishment to suck his dick.

That has appeal, it is all so Bull Shit. He a man that makes money off governments using their power of eminent domain to get him land to build casinos, then bankrupts them. This is what all conservative do, right?

He's given more money to democrats than Republicans, but now he going to lead the party out of the wilderness.

Right, it's all coming to me now, why was I so stupid to think he was just a con man? Those bankruptcies? Just a fluke no doubt.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:33 PM (0FSuD)

175 If Shaun King is black, why doesn't he let his hair grow out?
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 21, 2015 09:29 PM (oVJmc)
............
That is just one of many questions that need to be asked of that squirmy little prick. Where is the missing 340,000 from the Haitian aid fund that took in 540,000 and paid out 200,000...and the 17,000 that was donated toward his book that he never wrote?

Posted by: Thurston Howell Trump at August 21, 2015 09:33 PM (1tUaO)

176 Rousing the population with sophistry and populist speech, saying the things they like to hear can be very effective.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor

I see your point. So Jeb is a better candidate because he tells us the illegal immigration is good and we should love all these poor people, and we're bad if we don't?

And this is me, putting words that you did not say in your mouth. All politicians tell us populist things. Are they going to get elected by insulting their base? Jeb is trying that approach, and I'm sure that you don't care for him.

Is selling the idea of America, being happy, working hard, successful, being a rich country again (because we are a debtor nation after all) a bad message?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at August 21, 2015 09:33 PM (+1T7c)

177 Ok I'm a professional stupid head when I want to be, but shouldn't it be the other way around?

Isn't usually to downplay it here and who cares everywhere else because Amuricans is dumb and theys never reads the foreign stuff?

Meaning they'd want to play it off here as eh some actor something something on a train?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2015 09:34 PM (oFCZn)

178 Were there any Rebel Flags in attendance?

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 21, 2015 09:34 PM (fhF1E)

179
Again, no. What people saw/see in obama is a man who will take from Other and give it to Them.

Posted by: Soothsayer rose above the noise and confusion just to get a glimpse beyond the illusion at August 21, 2015 09:34 PM (qb1RU)

180 Of course, that's what people thought about Obama, too. Rousing the population with sophistry and populist speech, saying the things they like to hear can be very effective.

The problem is those people are stupid.
Posted by: freaked at August 21, 2015 09:31 PM (BO/km)

No, the problem is that people, generally, are stupid.

Unfortunately, upgrading people tends to be highly problematic.

You go to politics with the electorate you have, not the electorate you wish you had.

Democrats understand that elections are emotional events. Conservatives insist on treating them like intellectual enterprises. They are most definitely not.

Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2015 09:35 PM (JvPqF)

181 Bossy, nobody here is raising Boosh's flag, so stop going back to that BS. We're not going to support or nominate another Boosh.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:35 PM (0FSuD)

182 Trump appeal- not an insider and says what they want to hear.

For MIB- he's their man

Posted by: Ted Turner at August 21, 2015 09:35 PM (hVdx9)

183 Queen's We Are The Champions?

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 21, 2015 09:35 PM (JO9+V)

184 So what's the cutoff age, then, for gaining existential ultimate authoritativeness? Just wondering.

I dunno. All I know is people older than me have gone through all the crap I have, and then some. Whatever wisdom I've gained, they have more. Whatever experience I have, they have more. They deserve honor, respect, and attention, not dismissal.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:36 PM (39g3+)

185 This was in France right? Did those crazy m-fers blow up Charlie hebdo, or whatever?

Posted by: LIV at August 21, 2015 09:36 PM (lHASK)

186
People voted for obama to settle a score. obama ran on fixing everything by taking from one group and giving it to another.

Posted by: Soothsayer rose above the noise and confusion just to get a glimpse beyond the illusion at August 21, 2015 09:37 PM (qb1RU)

187 Can he be trusted LESS than the party machine? I don't think that's possible.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 21, 2015 09:28 PM (oVJmc)
---
That's the problem the vast majority in the party have at this point. Many voters are asking "What difference at this point, does it make?" when it comes to the "can you trust Trump" question.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at August 21, 2015 09:37 PM (MbrzC)

188 Aerosmith's Back In The Saddle would work nicely as a campaign song, I think.

Fairly dated nowadays, though.

Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2015 09:37 PM (JvPqF)

189 Throw the Republican Establishment down the well.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 21, 2015 09:37 PM (fhF1E)

190 Besides a paper bag full of shit, what has the GOP given us over the course of the last 15 years?
Posted by: Kreplach

But....it's a really GREAT bag of shit!

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at August 21, 2015 09:37 PM (+1T7c)

191 Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:33 PM (0FSuD)

Tell us about the divorces. That might change people's minds. Keep trying, you're almost there!

Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2015 09:37 PM (Dj0WE)

192 @186

BINGO.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:37 PM (0FSuD)

193 Seriously another stupid thing that emanated out of the mouth from GM was that one of the subjects he wants brought up at the debates and covered extensively is pot legalization???

Pot legalization?

The guy is a jerkoff.

Simple as that.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 21, 2015 09:37 PM (WVvzl)

194 At least the international site says he's an Islamist.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 21, 2015 09:38 PM (0LHZx)

195
Right, it's all coming to me now, why was I so stupid to think he was just a con man?
Posted by: Nip Sip

After Thom Tillis, you actually expect anyone to place any credence in your evaluation of who is conservative and who isn't?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 21, 2015 09:38 PM (kdS6q)

196 Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2015 09:31 PM (NOIQH)

I agree with you, but I wonder what he looks and sounds like in a negotiation when the big bucks are on the line?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2015 09:38 PM (oFCZn)

197 I dunno. All I know is people older than me have gone through all the crap I have, and then some. Whatever wisdom I've gained, they have more. Whatever experience I have, they have more. They deserve honor, respect, and attention, not dismissal.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:36 PM (39g3+)

So, when you dismiss somebody's opinion here or elsewhere on line, do you first check to see how old they are?

You see where I'm going here, yes?

Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2015 09:38 PM (JvPqF)

198 Tell us about the divorces. That might change people's minds. Keep trying, you're almost there!

Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2015 09:37 PM (Dj0WE)

Explain statehood for DC and Single payer healthcare.
Your almost there. Give it a shot.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:38 PM (0FSuD)

199 GM? General Motors?

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 21, 2015 09:38 PM (fhF1E)

200 Donald Kingfisher Trump

Posted by: Ted Turner at August 21, 2015 09:38 PM (hVdx9)

201 Donald Trump, Superstar

LOL, Great White Snark.
And I like Trump pretty well, so far.

Posted by: LadyS at August 21, 2015 09:39 PM (xYNhJ)

202 Right, it's all coming to me now, why was I so
stupid to think he was just a con man? Those bankruptcies? Just a fluke
no doubt.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:33 PM (0FSuD)

Right! And no one else in the Republican party, including Thom Tillis, is a con man! Preach it!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Hardline Sanity Prod at August 21, 2015 09:39 PM (q20+R)

203 Pot legalization?

The guy is a jerkoff.

Simple as that.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 21, 2015 09:37 PM (WVvzl)

If I'd been ripping bong hits the last seven years, the endless flow of crap sandwiches would've been easier to swallow.

They still would've tasted like crap, but still.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2015 09:39 PM (oFCZn)

204 " -- is anything normal anymore?"
----

Nope. Embrace the suck.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at August 21, 2015 09:39 PM (MbrzC)

205 Whatever wisdom I've gained, they have more. Whatever experience I have, they have more.

No, not simply by virtue of living. There are plenty of old people who are as dumb as a box of rocks.

But enough about my mother-in-law...

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 21, 2015 09:39 PM (oVJmc)

206 I dunno. All I know is people older than me have gone through all the crap I have, and then some. Whatever wisdom I've gained, they have more. Whatever experience I have, they have more. They deserve honor, respect, and attention, not dismissal.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:36 PM (39g3+)

My mother, bless her heart, is wrong about a lot of things. She'll say things like "the blacks do this" or "the Jews do that." She's a bright woman, not 100% as sharp as she once was, but still smart.

I tell her when she's wrong.

I have siblings who get on me about it, but I wouldn't think to disrespect her, or insult her intelligence by treating her like she knows everything there is to know about everything, simply because she's been around a long time.

Wrong is wrong.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2015 09:40 PM (Dj0WE)

207 All politicians tell us populist things. Are they going to get elected by insulting their base?

Sure, and they all use sophistry. Some of them are just better at it than others. The trick is to not buy into their bullshit. And that's what troubles me. people seem to be willing to realize that politicians are untrustworthy trash... until one grabs them by a particular emotional handle and then they sort of get dumb about it.

You go to politics with the electorate you have, not the electorate you wish you had.

And, sadly, the politicians you have. I'd love to craft a Frankencandidate out of the best of the 17 out there, but... we gotta go with what we have.

That's why its so liberating to realize that it just doesn't matter who wins any more.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:40 PM (39g3+)

208 186
People voted for obama to settle a score. obama ran on fixing everything by taking from one group and giving it to another.
Posted by: Soothsayer rose above the noise and confusion just to get a glimpse beyond the illusion at August 21, 2015 09:37 PM (qb1RU)

__________

Obama could have campaigned on punching every American in the face twice daily and he would have won. People didn't give a fuck what he said or what he thought. He was black. He was making history. End of story.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 21, 2015 09:41 PM (0LHZx)

209 Your almost there. Give it a shot.

Spelling. Give it a shot.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 21, 2015 09:41 PM (JO9+V)

210 After Thom Tillis, you actually expect anyone to place any credence in your evaluation of who is conservative and who isn't?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 21, 2015 09:38 PM (kdS6q)

Perhaps you might back that up with something Tillis has done that is NOT conservative? Just cause your are butt hurt he won, doesn't mean I wasn't right. The stock fraud guy the tea party ran, lost his appeal and had to pay the judgement, in case you are wondering.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:41 PM (0FSuD)

211 155
Of course, that's what people thought about Obama, too. Rousing the population with sophistry and populist speech, saying the things they like to hear can be very effective.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:29 PM (39g3+)

At least Trump seems to be pro-America, unlike Obama. Anybody who did the slightest research on Obama's background could see him for what he is.

Trump is a populist, sure, but he's not Obama.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2015 09:41 PM (sdi6R)

212 The MFM sure had that anchor babies thing coordinated. Must be Journolist vesion 7.0.

Posted by: cm9000 at August 21, 2015 09:41 PM (8zCR+)

213 Spelling. Give it a shot.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 21, 2015 09:41 PM (JO9+V)

Some timers is ugly.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:41 PM (0FSuD)

214 Are they going to get elected by insulting their base?

The Vichy GOP turds seem to think so.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2015 09:42 PM (MYSVz)

215 If I'd been ripping bong hits the last seven years, the endless flow of crap sandwiches would've been easier to swallow.

They still would've tasted like crap, but still.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2015 09:39 PM (oFCZn)

If the Pringles or Doritos were handy, the crap sandwiches would go down a treat though!

Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2015 09:42 PM (JvPqF)

216 Tell us about the divorces. That might change people's minds. Keep trying, you're almost there!

Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2015 09:37 PM (Dj0WE)

Explain statehood for DC and Single payer healthcare.
Your almost there. Give it a shot.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:38 PM (0FSuD)

Gosh, I never considered any of those. I guess you are right.

You win the internet! Feel free to call it a night there, genius.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2015 09:42 PM (Dj0WE)

217 So, when you dismiss somebody's opinion here or elsewhere on line, do you first check to see how old they are?
...
My mother, bless her heart, is wrong about a lot of things.

This is the frustrating thing about conversations. Online its even there in plain English, typed up for posterity but still people misunderstand or jump to conclusions.

Please search my post for where I said someone older than me cannot be wrong or is always right. Please quote where I said someone older than me must be deferred to in all things. I'll be right here.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:42 PM (39g3+)

218 How odd. Because as far as I have seen, the french are pretty damn interested in the fact that the USMC stopped the attack and did so quickly.

But remember CNN was shilling for Saddam and Gaddafi, too.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 21, 2015 09:42 PM (iQIUe)

219 "Democrats understand that elections are emotional events. Conservatives insist on treating them like intellectual enterprises. They are most definitely not."
---
For the most part...Yup, sad but true, certainly true of late.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at August 21, 2015 09:42 PM (MbrzC)

220 The Economy is harshing their mellow?

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 21, 2015 09:43 PM (fhF1E)

221 Speaking of the Confederate flag, I will be going to a large Civil War reanactment tomorrow and there is some concern about protesters. Seriously. Should be interesting.

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at August 21, 2015 09:43 PM (PHxng)

222 No, not simply by virtue of living. There are plenty of old people who are as dumb as a box of rocks.

But enough about my mother-in-law...

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 21, 2015 09:39 PM (oVJmc)

Gahhh.

My grandmother, circa 2006:

Mom (her daughter) dies so we go back there for the funeral, to the town where my mother and father grew up and where all the extended family still lives, for the funeral and burial.

George Bush gets brought up.

My grandmother proceeds to go on a rant that would rival the fucking shitheels on Daily Kos. Couldn't fucking believe the moonbat shit coming out of her mouth. I literally had to get up and leave the room the crazy got so bad.

I had no idea...

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2015 09:43 PM (oFCZn)

223 The Republocrats need a tournament.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 21, 2015 09:43 PM (fhF1E)

224 Funny how the MFM is able to all ask a particular question at the same time.

Posted by: cm9000 at August 21, 2015 09:43 PM (8zCR+)

225
Those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it - and those who do study history . . . are doomed to stand by helplessly while everyone else repeats it.

I worry about Trump.

Posted by: GBruno at August 21, 2015 09:44 PM (u49WF)

226 >>I agree with you, but I wonder what he looks and sounds like in a negotiation when the big bucks are on the line?

I'd imagine he's the same. He is who he is, even if his stands on particular issues have changed.

The funny thing about the Michael Scott character was that he was an excellent salesman; he really got to know his customers and always took care of them. Under all that buffoonery was a genuine person who loved what he did and cared about his employees and customers.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2015 09:44 PM (NOIQH)

227 Distribution of Ashley Madison users across the world, red lights are men

http://tinyurl.com/ohc7ehm

More in China and Japan than I expected.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:45 PM (39g3+)

228 Gosh, I am sorry for all the Tillis hate. Why don't you all that supported the stock fraud guy come up with somethings you think Tillis has done that are not conservative and I axe him about it?

Seems like all I am hearing is the whining of sore losers.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:45 PM (0FSuD)

229 "Seriously another stupid thing that emanated out of the mouth from GM was that one of the subjects he wants brought up at the debates and covered extensively is pot legalization???"

Mmmm...Who is GM?

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at August 21, 2015 09:45 PM (hL1jD)

230 The Republocrats need a tournament.

Like with lances and armor and horses? Because I'd pay to see that.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:45 PM (39g3+)

231 Anchor babies is the new Confederate Flag, to be swept into the dustbin of History.

Posted by: cm9000 at August 21, 2015 09:46 PM (8zCR+)

232
We have a legit terrorist in the White House and you're worried about Trump?

Posted by: Soothsayer rose above the noise and confusion just to get a glimpse beyond the illusion at August 21, 2015 09:46 PM (qb1RU)

233 I worry about Trump.

Posted by: GBruno at August 21, 2015 09:44 PM (u49WF)

When he starts speaking in beer halls, we are really in trouble.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:46 PM (0FSuD)

234 I'll tell you if the economy is going all dead cat bounce it might be perfectly set up to favor a political outsider and American triumphalist and populist.

Man if Trump can sharpen up and focus I see a potential land slide.

That is if he can focus.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 21, 2015 09:46 PM (WVvzl)

235 94 Again, I thought I couldn't like Trump anymore than i did and I was wrong.
Man Crush is within sight.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at August 21, 2015 09:16 PM (f+6Pd)

Same here, except I wasn't sure about him and haven't been on the bandwagon. Until now.
I looked for (and found) all the tells in Scott Ott's article, found all of them, and still got hooked.

Trump is the real deal.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 21, 2015 09:46 PM (M+9nV)

236 Speaking of the Confederate flag, I will be going to a large Civil War reanactment tomorrow and there is some concern about protesters. Seriously. Should be interesting.
Posted by: Gouverneur Morris

The Yangs and the Rebs should get together and charge the Coms.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 21, 2015 09:46 PM (W5DcG)

237 The funny thing about the Michael Scott character
was that he was an excellent salesman; he really got to know his
customers and always took care of them. Under all that buffoonery was a
genuine person who loved what he did and cared about his employees and
customers.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2015 09:44 PM (NOIQH)

And IIRC, year after year his office swept all the others for top sales. Which is why when D-M got bought out, all the other assets, except for his office and crew, got dustbinned. BOOYA!

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 21, 2015 09:47 PM (JO9+V)

238 Bossy, nobody here is raising Boosh's flag, so stop going back to that BS. We're not going to support or nominate another Boosh.

Posted by: Nip Sip

If Trump disappears tomorrow, who has enough money and party backing to go the distance and win the primary?
I'm not accusing Christophe Taylor of backing Jeb, but think about what he said;
"Rousing the population with sophistry and populist speech, saying the things they like to hear can be very effective."

Is there any successful politician that does NOT do this? Obama ran on class war (in code), to his Leftist - populist base. They all thought he was going to inflict Social Justice on everyone who wasn't ''them".

And Jeb has certainly been Debbie Downer as a campaigner. His only real strength is name recognition.

I'm not FOR Trump, but all I (originally) said was if you want to understand WHY he connects with people, watch his speech. He wanders and it's stream of consciousness, but people sense he is speaking to them, not AT them.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at August 21, 2015 09:47 PM (+1T7c)

239 Like with lances and armor and horses? Because I'd pay to see that.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor
****

You read my mind.
Jousting!

Posted by: Ted Turner at August 21, 2015 09:47 PM (hVdx9)

240 This is the frustrating thing about conversations. Online its even there in plain English, typed up for posterity but still people misunderstand or jump to conclusions.

Please search my post for where I said someone older than me cannot be wrong or is always right. Please quote where I said someone older than me must be deferred to in all things. I'll be right here.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:42 PM (39g3+)

No, you just chastised somebody about an interaction he had with his own mother, and pretended you knew more about how that interaction was supposed to go than he did.

And you IMPLIED that he was disrespectful to his mother, even if you didn't say it.

Feel free to defend yourself by saying you didn't say it. You have that right.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2015 09:48 PM (Dj0WE)

241 Distribution of Ashley Madison users across the world, red lights are men

So the entire world is hooking up with Indian housewives?

And not a single Russian was involved?

Posted by: Methos at August 21, 2015 09:48 PM (ZbV+0)

242 I worry about Trump.

Posted by: GBruno at August 21, 2015 09:44 PM (u49WF)

Why?

Posted by: cm9000 at August 21, 2015 09:48 PM (8zCR+)

243 Please search my post for where I said someone older than me cannot be wrong or is always right. Please quote where I said someone older than me must be deferred to in all things. I'll be right here.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:42 PM (39g3+)

You're the one who was asserting - or hypothesizing - knowledge that you did not have.

Don't get huffy when you get called on it.

I've known elderly people who were sharp as whips. I've also known elderly people who were astonishingly stupid and bigoted. (Feel free to replace "elderly people" with any other formulation for any other age group).

Age doesn't automatically make you smart.

Mainly, it just makes you ache more than you used to. Trust me on this one.

Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2015 09:48 PM (JvPqF)

244 Gosh, I never considered any of those. I guess you are right.

You win the internet! Feel free to call it a night there, genius.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2015 09:42 PM (Dj0WE)

Feel free to ignore the questions. Nothing here, move along.

My heart tells me Trump is really a conservative, these pesky policy statements are just tricks. Yeah, that's it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:48 PM (0FSuD)

245 Why does General Motors want to legalize pot?

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 21, 2015 09:48 PM (fhF1E)

246
When you find yourself on the same side as the Left, you need to step back and check yourself.

I'm seeing the same remarks about Trump here and from the Republican candidates as I hear in the media on MSBNC and from left wingers.

Posted by: Soothsayer rose above the noise and confusion just to get a glimpse beyond the illusion at August 21, 2015 09:49 PM (qb1RU)

247 245 Why does General Motors want to legalize pot?

Dude, self driving cars.

Posted by: freaked at August 21, 2015 09:50 PM (BO/km)

248 Trump is the real deal.

Posted by: jwb7605
****

I wouldn't bet the farm on that.

Posted by: Ted Turner at August 21, 2015 09:50 PM (hVdx9)

249 245
Why does General Motors want to legalize pot?

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 21, 2015 09:48 PM (fhF1E)

Sell more parts from the wrecks?

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:50 PM (0FSuD)

250 How can they attack Trump. He isn't the squishy soulless bastard that the rest of us are?

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 21, 2015 09:50 PM (fhF1E)

251 Did Trump talk taxes / tax reform?

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 21, 2015 09:51 PM (I5hoQ)

252
How can they attack Trump. He isn't the squishy soulless bastard that the rest of us are?

So far, that's what I'm hearing, yeah.

Posted by: Soothsayer rose above the noise and confusion just to get a glimpse beyond the illusion at August 21, 2015 09:51 PM (qb1RU)

253 Why does General Motors want to legalize pot?

Because you'd have to be high to buy a Chevy Volt.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 21, 2015 09:51 PM (oVJmc)

254 180
You go to politics with the electorate you have, not the electorate you wish you had.

Democrats understand that elections are emotional events. Conservatives insist on treating them like intellectual enterprises. They are most definitely not.

Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2015 09:35 PM (JvPqF)

Yep. Roughly half of the electorate are idiots. Usually they vote for the candidate who promises them the most free shit.

If Trump is attracting LIVs because he has name recognition as a celebrity on TV, I'm not seeing a downside to that.

They're not about to vote for a "serious" candidate who has a detailed 50-point plan to fix the economy or something. So if Trump can get LIVs to vote for a candidate who might be more or less acceptable to us, I'd say that's really something.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2015 09:52 PM (sdi6R)

255 250
How can they attack Trump. He isn't the squishy soulless bastard that the rest of us are?

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 21, 2015 09:50 PM (fhF1E)

His FOUR bankruptcies sort of say squishy to me.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:52 PM (0FSuD)

256 And you IMPLIED that he was disrespectful to his mother, even if you didn't say it.

Perhaps you might not want to use the word "Derangement" when talking about your mother's political viewpoint.

Age doesn't automatically make you smart.

And once again I didn't say that. Did I? I said it in English, here, let me quote:

"They deserve honor, respect, and attention, not dismissal."

My argument is not "people older than I are always right." I thought that should be fairly plain from what I wrote.

My argument is "treat elderly with respect, not contempt and dismissal" which is a serious problem in our culture today. Old = stupid, out of touch, not cool, reminds me of death, and ewww olllddd

That's wrong.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:52 PM (39g3+)

257 It's going to be a while before decisions will have to be made. In the meantime just relax and enjoy the show.

Posted by: freaked at August 21, 2015 09:53 PM (BO/km)

258 > 223 The Republocrats need a tournament.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 21, 2015 09:43 PM (fhF1E)

Gladiatorial combat!

How could you not be amused?

Posted by: Trumpetor! at August 21, 2015 09:53 PM (4jmhZ)

259
The Republican candidates and their mouth-pieces haven't quite come and said it yet but they're close to saying that Trump is too extreme.

Well, then, I guess I'm too extreme, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer rose above the noise and confusion just to get a glimpse beyond the illusion at August 21, 2015 09:53 PM (qb1RU)

260
Perhaps you might back that up with something Tillis has done that is NOT conservative?
Posted by: Nip Sip

Starters:

Trade Promotion Authority
Loretta Lynch

And at least have the minimal personal honor that you won't try the "But -- he voted against her in the final vote" dodge with this crowd. He voted for cloture.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 21, 2015 09:53 PM (kdS6q)

261 Speaking of the Confederate flag, I will be going to a large Civil War reanactment tomorrow and there is some concern about protesters. Seriously. Should be interesting.

-
Pack many rounds of canister.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 21, 2015 09:54 PM (Nwg0u)

262 Cruz was at the Iowa State Fair today. Reiterated his push for Flat tax . As much as I would like it, I think it will harder to change the tax system than it would be to reform SS.

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 21, 2015 09:54 PM (I5hoQ)

263 Over 250, automatic gun thread.

So what model of weapon do you think the Moroccan terrorist was carrying?

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:54 PM (0FSuD)

264 And Rubio's wife had some speeding tickets.

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 21, 2015 09:54 PM (fhF1E)

265 Did Trump talk taxes / tax reform?

Posted by: Cruzinator

He specifically said he would repeal Obamacare, to which my wife reacted "Gee I hope so!"

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at August 21, 2015 09:54 PM (+1T7c)

266 Got an analog synth today, damn this sucker is fun to play.

I had forgotten the simple pleasure of putting on some phones and twiddling some knobs, sliding some faders, flipping some switches and making some funky noises.

Being slightly drunk helps a lot.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 21, 2015 09:54 PM (WVvzl)

267 [i[I've known elderly people who were sharp as whips.

Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2015 09:48 PM (JvPqF)

As much as I despise Jimmy Carter, I gotta say he sounded pretty lucid for a ninety year old with a brain tumor.

Posted by: cm9000 at August 21, 2015 09:55 PM (8zCR+)

268
US Marines Stop Mostly Peaceful Muslim From Using Bathroom.

-This is CNN

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 21, 2015 09:55 PM (ODxAs)

269 In the meantime just relax and enjoy the show.

-
That's my view and Trump puts on a good show.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 21, 2015 09:55 PM (Nwg0u)

270 Yep. Roughly half of the electorate are idiots. Usually they vote for the candidate who promises them the most free shit.

If Trump is attracting LIVs because he has name recognition as a celebrity on TV, I'm not seeing a downside to that.

They're not about to vote for a "serious" candidate who has a detailed 50-point plan to fix the economy or something. So if Trump can get LIVs to vote for a candidate who might be more or less acceptable to us, I'd say that's really something.
Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2015 09:52 PM (sdi6R)

__________

Trump is appealing to Joe Six 6 instead of George Will.

And that is a good thing.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 21, 2015 09:56 PM (0LHZx)

271 AK-47, or derivative.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 21, 2015 09:56 PM (9mTYi)

272 Because you'd have to be high to buy a Chevy Volt.

I cannot fault this argument.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:56 PM (39g3+)

273 171: Born in the USA is an antiAmerican song. totally. Listen to the rest of the words. Springsteen has always been an asshole . Fuck him.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 21, 2015 09:56 PM (ucDmr)

274 His FOUR bankruptcies sort of say squishy to me.

What's squishy about bankruptcy?

Sometimes investments good bad.

Posted by: Methos at August 21, 2015 09:56 PM (ZbV+0)

275
Trade Promotion Authority
Loretta Lynch

And
at least have the minimal personal honor that you won't try the "But --
he voted against her in the final vote" dodge with this crowd. He voted
for cloture.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 21, 2015 09:53 PM (kdS6q)

Trade Protection was a compromise. Mostly NC wants to sell pigs.

He and Burr BOTH had a hold on Lynch until they got the judges they wanted appointed.
You know, knowing what is going on is part of being a Senator.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:57 PM (0FSuD)

276 Neil Diamond's We're Coming to America?

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 21, 2015 09:57 PM (fhF1E)

277 105 Trump rally just ended. Anyone know what song they're playing?
Posted by: Emily at August 21, 2015 09:18(PM (7Rn+/)

Slayer, Raining Blood?

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 21, 2015 09:57 PM (NGd+i)

278 My argument is "treat elderly with respect, not contempt and dismissal" which is a serious problem in our culture today. Old = stupid, out of touch, not cool, reminds me of death, and ewww olllddd

That's wrong.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:52 PM (39g3+)

You've here built a Wall of China where, perhaps, an orange hazard cone would have sufficed.

Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2015 09:57 PM (JvPqF)

279 Well, then, I guess I'm too extreme, too.

Duuuude extreeeeemme!!!!! *cracks a Red Bull*

Posted by: Guy who watches too much X-Games at August 21, 2015 09:57 PM (39g3+)

280 257
Bingo! Watching the GOP establishment tie itself in knots over Trump is so entertaining. Loving every minute of the show.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2015 09:57 PM (JSovD)

281 259
The Republican candidates and their mouth-pieces haven't quite come and said it yet but they're close to saying that Trump is too extreme.

Well, then, I guess I'm too extreme, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer rose above the noise and confusion just to get a glimpse beyond the illusion at
August 21, 2015 09:53 PM (qb1RU)

There was an article about three weeks ago with the title, "Is Donald Trump a Fascist?"

Oh from mid July. I saw it three weeks ago:

http://tinyurl.com/puwbj66

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2015 09:58 PM (oFCZn)

282 Behold, the ONT...

Posted by: tmi3rd at August 21, 2015 09:58 PM (XUEde)

283 Did I mention Lynch is from NC? She was held up for a long long time by TWO NC Senators. That says something to me.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 21, 2015 09:58 PM (0FSuD)

284 Cruz was at the Iowa State Fair today. Reiterated his push for Flat tax . As much as I would like it, I think it will harder to change the tax system than it would be to reform SS.
Posted by: Cruzinator
--------------

Flat tax doesn't change anything except tax rates and, of course, deductions.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 21, 2015 09:58 PM (9mTYi)

285 I don't want LIVs picking a President again.

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 21, 2015 09:58 PM (I5hoQ)

286 Oh well. At least when Nip Sip is obsessing about Trump he isn't letting his racism slip out.

Posted by: buzzion at August 21, 2015 09:58 PM (zt+N6)

287 You've here built a Wall of China where, perhaps, an orange hazard cone would have sufficed.

Well it wouldn't be the first time.

Posted by: Guy who watches too much X-Games at August 21, 2015 09:58 PM (39g3+)

288 My 80-yr old dad is hardcore *GOPe*, refuses to acknowledge Trump as a serious candidate. (Truth is-- I'm not sure either but I sure as hell enjoy the gasping and pearl-clutching he's causing!)

So last weekend, Dad opened our conversation with: "Trump's not gonna win the nomination!"

My reply: "Who cares? He's got the right people pissing themselves. It's too early to do anything but make popcorn and watch things unfold a little more."

And there we stand.

Posted by: JeanQ Flyover at August 21, 2015 09:58 PM (rhjQp)

289 Did Trump give his Blut und Boden Speech?

Posted by: Boss Moss at August 21, 2015 09:59 PM (fhF1E)

290 @270

It's more than joe six pack.

He's got the tech heads at slashdot all a flutter about his H1b stance.

And his overall immigration message plays very well with Blacks who have taken it in the shorts because of illegal immigration.

So he does have cross over appeal to disparate groups that you would never think could ever be receptive to a GOP candidate.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 21, 2015 09:59 PM (WVvzl)

291 "reforming" SS means more SS tax and less SS benefits for evil rich people (and by rich I mean not on welfare).

It will turn into just a giant welfare program where everyone pays in and only "low income" Americans get out.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 21, 2015 09:59 PM (0LHZx)

292 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 21, 2015 09:58 PM (9mTYi)

Sounds easy doesn't it?

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 21, 2015 09:59 PM (I5hoQ)

293 Perhaps you might not want to use the word "Derangement" when talking about your mother's political viewpoint.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:52 PM (39g3+)

Trump Derangement Syndrome is a phrase used to describe people who cannot quite wrap their minds around the Trump phenomena, and keep making silly pronouncements about the guy. It's not a real medical condition.

Maybe you don't like it used here, but please, don't conflate it into some sort of soapbox rant on disrespecting the elderly. That's just silly.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2015 10:00 PM (Dj0WE)

294 274 His FOUR bankruptcies sort of say squishy to me.
What's squishy about bankruptcy?
Sometimes investments good bad.
Posted by: Methos at August 21, 2015 09:56 PM (ZbV+0)

Trump has already said he did not personally go bankrupt. He says he took advantage of legal laws written so his companies went bankrupt, and he personally didn't lose any money. His corporations -- or rather, the investors -- did.

This is one of the reasons I like the guy. Brutally honest, and he's telling us how the system is gamed.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 21, 2015 10:00 PM (M+9nV)

295 ONT groovy babies

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at August 21, 2015 10:00 PM (PHxng)

296 Has Yeb Bush groveled and begged for forgiveness yet for using the term anchor baby?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2015 10:00 PM (oFCZn)

297 For being the multi-billionaire that he is, Trump doesn't sound like a stuffy rich guy. He has an ability to work the crowd and connect with them. Look at the way he playfully introduced Jeff Sessions tonight. Trump would probably win the "which Republican candidate would you most like to have a beer with" poll, although Rubio would probably win if we were talking water instead of a beer.

I'm sure he will tighten up his message as the race progresses. He introduced his immigration policy this week, which Sessions wrote or co-wrote (though Sessions gave Trump all the credit tonight). He's introducing his tax policy paper in the next month. It will be interesting to see how this plays out as the race continues.

Posted by: Titanium at August 21, 2015 10:01 PM (u9UgT)

298 John Hawkins of Right Wing News interviews Trump. Has some good questions:

http://tinyurl.com/nkn8o5a

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 10:01 PM (39g3+)

299 It will turn into just a giant welfare program where everyone pays in and only "low income" Americans get out.

So, just another government program.

Posted by: Methos at August 21, 2015 10:01 PM (ZbV+0)

300 The injured actor is Jean-Hugues Anglade (imdb: "Sensual, ambiguous, ultra sensitive French performer ...") You may remember him from the Sopranos, where he played that grifter who took $50G's from Artie Bucco on an Armagnac liquor scam.

Posted by: gp at August 21, 2015 10:01 PM (mk9aG)

301 Ace, you forgot to show the translation of the headline on the Islamic edition (also a choice at the top-right of the page):

"Three people were injured after a fire on a train in France .. and two US soldiers were in control of the port"

Posted by: DJ at August 21, 2015 10:02 PM (NZF6l)

302 285 I don't want LIVs picking a President again.
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 21, 2015 09:58 PM (I5hoQ)

Sorry to break it to you, but we're outnumbered.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2015 10:02 PM (sdi6R)

303 Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 21, 2015 09:59 PM (0LHZx)

Apparently you're not familiar with the conservative plan to reform SS.

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 21, 2015 10:02 PM (I5hoQ)

304 Even if a flat tax means you pay the same amount of money, it's still a great thing. Why? Because with a flax tax, the govt can give special favors. The reason the tax code is so complicated is because every deduction or tax credit is so that a special interest gets something.

Get rid of deductions, you get rid of the influence bought.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 21, 2015 10:04 PM (0LHZx)

305 For being the multi-billionaire that he is, Trump doesn't sound like a stuffy rich guy. He has an ability to work the crowd and connect with them.

Well he definitely makes you want to believe him, the way he talks and what he says. Its a sales technique and he has it down pat, probably a good part of it is just innate talent as well.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is a phrase used to describe people who cannot quite wrap their minds around the Trump phenomena, and keep making silly pronouncements about the guy.

I know but... its your mom

That just hit me in a really bad place.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 10:04 PM (39g3+)

306 Apparently you're not familiar with the conservative plan to reform SS.
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 21, 2015 10:02 PM (I5hoQ)

_________

Which is what exactly? Raise the retirement age. Yeay!!

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 21, 2015 10:04 PM (0LHZx)

307 285 I don't want LIVs picking a President again.
Posted by: Cruzinator at August 21, 2015 09:58 PM (I5hoQ)

_________

Well you better get going on writing an amendment that takes away the right to vote for about 70% of the public.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 21, 2015 10:06 PM (0LHZx)

308 I don't want LIVs picking a President again.

Yeah me either, but I don't see a solution. Obama woke them up, somehow and got them active in politics. Maybe they'll go back to sleep without him around to stir them up. Maybe he'll stay in politics and just do that: raise money and rabble rouse. I fear that will be it.

I do not own a home or land but I support going back to the original plan of letting only landowners vote. People with some skin in the game. I wouldn't be able to vote then, but I'd give it up to cut out all the others without any actual personal cost in who they pick to spend our money.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 10:08 PM (39g3+)

309 Sounds easy doesn't it?
Posted by: Cruzinator
-------------

Yeah. I'm not necessarily a proponent, but I certainly think the tax system could be streamlined. I figure no matter what happens, I'll never be paying less than I am, but I sure would like to reduce the IRS's role in out lives.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 21, 2015 10:10 PM (9mTYi)

310 For being the multi-billionaire that he is, Trump doesn't sound like a stuffy rich guy. He has an ability to work the crowd and connect with them.
---------------

I'm thinking that the address he gave at Mobile is the address. I'm not sure he has any more to say.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 21, 2015 10:12 PM (9mTYi)

311 297
I'm sure he will tighten up his message as the race progresses. He introduced his immigration policy this week, which Sessions wrote or co-wrote (though Sessions gave Trump all the credit tonight). He's introducing his tax policy paper in the next month. It will be interesting to see how this plays out as the race continues.
Posted by: Titanium at August 21, 2015 10:01 PM (u9UgT)

And see this, too:

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=230529

This is the mother lode. If he tackles this issue head-on, he will be unstoppable.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2015 10:12 PM (sdi6R)

312 Suddenly..., it seems echoy in here. I wonder if.....

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 21, 2015 10:13 PM (9mTYi)

313 308
I do not own a home or land but I support going back to the original plan of letting only landowners vote. People with some skin in the game. I wouldn't be able to vote then, but I'd give it up to cut out all the others without any actual personal cost in who they pick to spend our money.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 10:08 PM (39g3+)

I've occasionally heard a conservative woman say that she would give up her right to vote if it would mean that all those other liberal women would lose theirs, too.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2015 10:16 PM (sdi6R)

314 The Arabic version and the Spanish version credit the Marines in their headlines.

Posted by: RonF at August 21, 2015 10:20 PM (A+jSE)

315 If it makes you feel better SKY News has been leading with the Marines role since the beginning. I've watched it for news on my Roku since I canceled cable for the curious. . .

Posted by: Dawnsblood at August 21, 2015 10:29 PM (qrP5/)

316 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 21, 2015 09:52 PM (39g3+)

Okay, Christopher Taylor, this is me. We've interacted for several years, generally positively, so *please* believe me that I have only your good at heart when I say that *yes* your tone *was* condescending (to the point I was rather shocked).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 21, 2015 10:31 PM (GDulk)

317 Fires, one out away from the No-Hit Bid in Houston...

Posted by: Garrett at August 21, 2015 10:39 PM (69H2P)

318 Fiers, damn autocorrect.

Posted by: Garrett at August 21, 2015 10:40 PM (69H2P)

319 http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000767/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

I'm pretty sure that even in France he's a 'that guy' type of actor.

Posted by: Epobirs at August 21, 2015 10:42 PM (IdCqF)

320 Yup CNN bunch of jerks.

But, did you happen to watch the video of the inside of the train? I do believe our boys hogtied themselves a Moroccan. The suspect (aka Muslim asshole) is literally hogtied with his own shirt.

Posted by: OrsonSnow at August 22, 2015 01:01 AM (aGwjg)

321 "So he's a salesman, but what kind? Can he be trusted. That is my main question."

He's selling the exact opposite of what he's been selling for years, so, no.

He's selling the exact opposite of everything everybody he's been hanging around with has been selling for years, so, no.

He's making a pitch to line up a new set of marks, so, no.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at August 22, 2015 02:18 AM (Kucy5)

322 155
People feel like they're finally being heard.

First mark of a good con man: "I get you, I understand you..."

And I suspect a lot of those old people are old enough to remember Father Coughlin and Huey Long. Donald Trump is nothing new. He's just playing on the sames needs as the hucksters soliciting donations for their Tea Party "organizations".

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at August 22, 2015 02:24 AM (Kucy5)

323 trumps extemporaneous speaking does not mean that he can't deliver a prepared speech as some would suggest. frankly, why is "the speech" a measure of how great a president someone will be? why do we judge a president on how well he performs in a debate? screw that.

perhaps we should be looking for candidates with experience, and a proven track record of success in something other than giving speeches and being a politician.

trump is one of the richest men in the history of our country. he's been very successful, and he does know how to get things done and negotiate. there isn't one person up there running right now, except maybe ted cruz, that could probably negotiate better than trump.

who do you think knows more about creating jobs? fixing infrastructure? dealing with intense negotiations? problem solving? budgeting? seriously.

if we want our best and brightest leading our country than maybe we need to start by electing our best and brightest to office.

trump doesn't have to do this. i am convinced he's running because he actually loves the country and wants it to be the best.

wouldn't it be nice to have someone in office for a change that actually LOVES our country and really wants it to be the best it can be? wouldn't it be nice for a change?

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at August 22, 2015 06:01 AM (BCTRd)

324 Except for the fact that one of the service members who stopped the muzzie terrorist is a SOLDIER, and the other, an AIRMAN.
Get the designations straight. This is why the axiom: "First reports are never accurate", applies.

Posted by: SFCMAC at August 22, 2015 11:46 AM (9lL1x)

325 I have ridden these trains in Europe. I am not surprised but totally disgusted that the entire train crew locked themselves into a room and left the passengers to the mercy of fate. In this case God sent US military angels in the forms of an Airman, a National Guardsmen and a college student to protect the other 497 passengers on board (with a Brit IT gentlemen joining in the hogtie of the stinky radical islamic terrorist. I loved...LOVED...that they beat him unconscious. With his gun. Loved it. Heroes. My heart swells with pride that these are our homegrown heroes who don't hesitate but have the "let's roll" attitude.

I can only hope that had I been on that train I would have delivered a whack or two to the terrorist with my travel purse.

May God give us all the courage we need should a similar problem arise...although I doubt I will be on a train in France anytime soon. Husband has had enough, no matter my wishes. Hail, soon it will be all mooslem anyway.

Interesting that YESTERDAY, in the midst of calling these men Marines, which is certainly not an insult, the French press were calling this simian a terrorist. Of course Oweenie, King Putz, had to dampen this by the "investigation" but glad the Americans lent a hand or some blathering foam coming out his pie-hole. farht.

I love the American heroes in this story. Love that Spencer, after tackling this goat turd, hog tying him (oh, the irony!), and beating him unconscious, then helped two other wounded passengers while bleeding from the neck and almost losing a thumb. This is America, France and world.

Thank you, God, for putting these men on this train. Thank you, God, for sparing their lives. Thank you, God, for this country and please protect us from our enemies.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at August 22, 2015 12:06 PM (akaHw)

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