Tuesday Morning News Dump

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1 First?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 18, 2015 09:09 AM (LImvu)

2 I'll get the others.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 18, 2015 09:10 AM (LImvu)

3 Corgis called

Posted by: rickb223 at August 18, 2015 09:10 AM (LImvu)

4 Hurry up! We've got important commenting to do.

Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 09:10 AM (0eidE)

5 True hat trick!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 18, 2015 09:11 AM (LImvu)

6 I love the smell of fresh hell in the morning.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 18, 2015 09:12 AM (ee9LE)

7 Krauthammer Crushes Granny Clinton


****


Help, I've fallen in the polls and I can't get up!

Posted by: Granny Clinton frantically pushing her Life Alert button at August 18, 2015 09:14 AM (NeFrd)

8 More Trump bashing

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 18, 2015 09:14 AM (R8hU8)

9 Not a Trump-free zone I see....

Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 09:15 AM (NOIQH)

10 Welcome To Post-Ferguson Policing



Fvck 'em. Let them have the first swing, then pound their ass to a bloody pulp.

Free clue: Don't want your ass beat to a bloody pulp by a cop? Don't swing on one.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 18, 2015 09:15 AM (LImvu)

11 Stand up Chuck! Take a bow for dissing Granny Clinton!

Come stand up, let everybody see ya!

Oh nevermind....God love ya Chuck!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 18, 2015 09:15 AM (D0NZx)

12 Meh, the dump isn't as exciting this morning. I think Ben should've had chimichangas last night.

Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 09:15 AM (0eidE)

13 On Morning Joe they spent a few minutes on Hillary and they were brutal - read part of a Eugene Robinson column that rips her to shreds. Guess the tide is changing when you can't count on the WashPost and people like Mika to stick up for you.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 09:16 AM (NOIQH)

14 That Reason article is even sneerier than your average Wellesley English class. It oughta be exhibit A next time someone asks why nobody likes libertarians.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 18, 2015 09:16 AM (8ooBl)

15
Puppies First Earthquake - August 17, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwORsemTww4

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 18, 2015 09:16 AM (kdS6q)

16 Ah, a fine morning trump.

I meant dump.

Really, I meant dump. Totes seriously, all.

Posted by: anon a mouse at August 18, 2015 09:16 AM (C9pBZ)

17 Guess the tide is changing when you can't count on the WashPost and people like Mika to stick up for you.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 09:16 AM (NOIQH)

She lost Mika? Guess the knives are out to get someone viable running.

Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 09:17 AM (0eidE)

18 Reason is the most ironic name that magazine could have named itself.

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 18, 2015 09:18 AM (cJswI)

19 Getting tired of the going back to someone's past to compare what they said then vs what they're saying now as some kind of "gotcha consistency test."

Hopefully people are reading and experiencing and learning during their lives.

If they've changed a "core principle" or two, that's what I'd call a convert. Converts make the most passionate persuaders because they've seen both sides and became convinced enough to switch.

One of my favorite "converts" was Andrew Breitbart.

Posted by: parteagirl at August 18, 2015 09:18 AM (K0jlM)

20 Posted by: rickb223 at August 18, 2015 09:15 AM (LImvu)


The problem is their is usually a crowd of "them," and you are all alone.

Posted by: rd at August 18, 2015 09:18 AM (a/sAS)

21 More Trump bashing

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 18, 2015 09:14 AM


I'm beginning to thin it's now mandatory.

Personally, I would rather see attention directed to the Iran "agreement" right now. This needs to somehow be stopped dead in its tracks before the Mad Mullahs and their Bosom Pal Choom Boy can do any more damage.

And yes, I believe it could be brought to a screeching halt, even now.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 18, 2015 09:19 AM (0atQl)

22 It's probably nothing, but the Chinese Stock Market took a big dump last night.

Posted by: rd at August 18, 2015 09:20 AM (a/sAS)

23 For the future of post-Ferguson policing, see the UK, especially the Rotherham scandal. In that perverse universe, it's better to let an outrage go on than be accused of racism.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at August 18, 2015 09:20 AM (RD7QR)

24


Trump Thought Romney's Idea Of Self-Deportation In 2012 Was Crazy



Meh.


Romney said illegal immigrants should have a chance to obtain citizenship in 2006. Then in 2007 he said that they shouldn't.

I keep hearing about Donald's complete libtardism yet when I ask " oh really , please show me?" I get this weak bullshit.

Or " F**k you c**ks**cker m**f**k*r , only WALKERCRUZFIORINA can save us now and white do you hate brown people?"

TDS is real.

Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 09:20 AM (HJqXj)

25
You hear this?

Lindsey Graham was in Iowa yesterday. You know what he's running on? Going back to Iraq. Really.

Graham said something like "We're gonna go back and ram those guys into the dust." I shit you not.

Posted by: Soothsayer II, thirty-two-time Top Commenter at August 18, 2015 09:22 AM (R/CND)

26 Muslim and Gypsy Gangs Battle for Supremacy on Streets of Europe

...Reports indicate that much of the infighting between the Roma gangs are over the ownership of women, while the Arabs are much more profit-motivated. Even in areas where gypsies have seized control of the prostitution rackets, they are still forced to pay protection money to the Muslims who rule the city, reports the Berliner Kurier....

Oliver Lane, Breitbart
http://bit.ly/1E30zjz

c/o Blazing Cat Fur
http://bit.ly/1HTNfZX

Posted by: mindful webworker - just the messenger at August 18, 2015 09:22 AM (Uohrc)

27 white s/b why

checking my privilege

Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 09:23 AM (HJqXj)

28 Yes Trump said that about Romney but I think the article is wrong when it says Trump now wants to deport every illegal. He has only said he wanted to deport everyone who had a criminal record. He has avoided discussing what he plans to do with the 'non criminal undocumented aliens' already here though he has indicated that some 'path' is needed.

Of course he could turn on a dime so what he says today may not be his position tomorrow.

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 18, 2015 09:24 AM (cJswI)

29 It's not just being accused of racism. They will make sure their target will have to resign and never work in law enforcement again. They will harass their kids and families. The destroy people's lives and the accusations dont even have to be true.

Thank you, asshole obama! This is your doing. They use these doj investigations to harass people, too. Look at the poor Bell family

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 18, 2015 09:24 AM (iQIUe)

30 Walker has one chance to push himself to the front (adopting the Trump on immigration is nice but not enough): He has to pick a fight with the deep blue bureaucrats in WI.

He needs to personally call for the criminal investigation and prosecution of all of those involved in the John Doe persecution.

It was his fight with them that brought him to the national stage and that is the only card he has.

That he is sitting on his hands regarding that abuse of power tells me he is not qualified to be President--where he'll be head of multiple far more virulent and dangerous (to ordinary Americans) agencies.

Until he does, to all you pushing Walker: HE WILL NOT CHANGE A DAMNED THING IN DC.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 18, 2015 09:25 AM (ZvKdv)

31 What WeirdDave post got pulled? I didn't see it.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 18, 2015 09:26 AM (ZvKdv)

32 Jay Caruso takes the same tired tack of spraying spittle on people for supporting Trump rather than trying to win them away.

Yet, they're incensed that these same people don't come running back to them begging forgiveness.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 18, 2015 09:26 AM (oVJmc)

33 >>One of my favorite "converts" was Andrew Breitbart.

Good one! I like converts David Horowitz and Tammy Bruce, too.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 09:26 AM (NOIQH)

34 The problem with fools like Jay Caruso is that he thinks he's smarter than everyone else.

Listen up, Jay, the reason Republicans lose is because you seem to think people don't know the fix is already in.

We know Trump is not going to be nominated. That's going to be Jeb!'s job, or if Jeb! steps on his on weenie, they have another Gope waiting to take his place. Rubio or God forbid, Chrispy.

Gope is the reason you lose, loser. Calling Trump and his supporters names is, as you suggest, irrelevant to that fact. It's incidental, but you'll keep doing it anyway, because you think you're clever.

You. Are. Not.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2015 09:26 AM (TOk1P)

35 Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 09:20 AM (

Besides that not being accurate, Romney ain't running. You Trump guys don't sweat the details. It's all generalities with you.

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 18, 2015 09:27 AM (cJswI)

36 >>For the future of post-Ferguson policing, see the UK, especially the Rotherham scandal. In that perverse universe, it's better to let an outrage go on than be accused of racism

And Sweden's rape jihad, where 99% of rapes are committed by immigrants (wink, wink).

Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 09:27 AM (NOIQH)

37 Under a Trump administration, will the federal government suddenly begin following the law? What will cause that to happen?

This entire election is bullshit.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 18, 2015 09:29 AM (u5gzz)

38 What WeirdDave post got pulled? I didn't see it.


Posted by: RoyalOil at August 18, 2015 09:26 AM (ZvKdv)


It was a Saturday post a couple weeks ago. Essentially critiquing Rick Wilson's piece, and some "powerful" people around here... most likely NOT Ace, decided they didn't like that.


Apparently we're supposed to know who Rick Wilson is, and apparently instead of engaging in free speech, whoever it was, one of the Cobs most likely, decided to censor the piece instead.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2015 09:29 AM (TOk1P)

39 36 And their media reports the rapes were by "Swedes",even when they don't have Swedish citizenship.

Posted by: steevy at August 18, 2015 09:29 AM (sPO3u)

40 I just emailed the Trump slap down to a Jewish friend of mine that thinks Trump is marvelous. An otherwise smart guy, he has total puppy love.



Perhaps P11 should read that. OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 18, 2015 09:30 AM (0FSuD)

41 37 Under a Trump administration, will the federal government suddenly begin following the law? What will cause that to happen?

This entire election is bullshit.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 18, 2015 09:29 AM (u5gzz)

Nothing will change until the bureaucracy is reined in. Nothing will change until the law applies to the elites as well as the little people.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at August 18, 2015 09:30 AM (RD7QR)

42
More Trump bashing
Posted by: Velvet Ambition



I can remember when blogs spending a disproportinate amount of time critizing the Republican front runner instead of Democrats was a bad thing.

But we grow, we change.



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 18, 2015 09:30 AM (kdS6q)

43 {i]Telling The Truth About Trump Is Not Why We Lose

I am happy to say that I was out in front of telling conservatives to
rid themselves of the stench of Donald Trump over a year ago.

Really ? REALLY ?

I bet this asshole doesn't talk about ridding ourselves of the stench of Obama or the stench of Justice Kagan.

Fucking disingenuous seal-barking clapper.


Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 09:30 AM (HJqXj)

44 You. Are. Not. Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2015 09:26 AM

Caruso is far from alone on this, as anyone who takes a fast glance or two around the GOPe websites will know.

Too bad all the energy being expended in mouth-frothing and holding-my-breath-'til-I-turn-blue foot-stamping about Trump couldn't have been used to focus attention on the Choom Boy Nuke Giveaway. Maybe someone -- perhaps even a Senator or two -- would have noticed.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 18, 2015 09:31 AM (0atQl)

45 "Jay has been following politics closely since 1992 when he was a moderate Democrat. It was Bill Clinton's lie about a middle class tax cut that pushed Jay over the edge to conservatism..."
So Mr Caruso is allowed a change of heart over Clinton's lies but Mr Trump is not over Obama's massively-worse lies? Oooookay.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 18, 2015 09:31 AM (4TTES)

46 More Trump bashing
Posted by: Velvet Ambition


Exactly.


I hate this bullshit. NONE of these happy , clappy dipshits goes on rants like this against the current administration or Dems.


The GOP deserves extinction.

Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 09:32 AM (HJqXj)

47 This entire election is bullshit.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 18, 2015 09:29 AM (u5gzz)

Maybe but the alternative is worst

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2015 09:33 AM (gf8BH)

48
Romney ain't running.
Posted by: Cruzinator



Romney is trying to be a kingmaker. His kiss the ring get-togethers and handing over his donor list to his favored few.

He's fair game.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 18, 2015 09:33 AM (kdS6q)

49 Jay Caruso takes the same tired tack of spraying spittle on people for supporting Trump rather than trying to win them away.Yet, they're incensed that these same people don't come running back to them begging forgiveness.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 18, 2015 09:26 AM (oVJmc)


Our own J.J. Sefton was in the comment section asking the million dollar question: OK, Jay, anybody supporting Trump is an idiot, probably a white supremacist, a domestic terrorist and, oh, did I say an idiot? Fine. But if he, through some miracle, gets the GOP nomination, will you support him?

I think we all can guess Caruso's answer to that.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 18, 2015 09:34 AM (zF6Iw)

50 Caruso is far from alone on this, as anyone who takes a fast glance or two around the GOPe websites will know.

Too
bad all the energy being expended in mouth-frothing and
holding-my-breath-'til-I-turn-blue foot-stamping about Trump couldn't
have been used to focus attention on the Choom Boy Nuke Giveaway. Maybe
someone -- perhaps even a Senator or two -- would have noticed.


Posted by: MrScribbler at August 18, 2015 09:31 AM (0atQl)


To tell you the truth, I can't think of too many things more useless in this world than all these so-called conservative writers at all these webzines. I really can't tell one from another, and cannot for the life of me imagine why I should.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2015 09:35 AM (TOk1P)

51 Watching the pro-Trump anti-Trump rhetoric diatribes on this site is like watching a tennis match.

My neck's getting sore.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 18, 2015 09:35 AM (NeFrd)

52 Hunger striker regains consciousness, refuses terms for release
Mohammed Allaan's lawyer says his client refuses to spend even one day abroad as a term for his release, saying if a solution is not found until Wednesday morning he will stop recieving all medical treatment.

Good! I am against releasing you anyway. Die

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2015 09:35 AM (gf8BH)

53 47 This entire election is bullshit.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 18, 2015 09:29 AM (u5gzz)

Maybe but the alternative is worst
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2015 09:33 AM (gf8BH)

The alternatives are narrowing rapidly. Maybe all the choices we get eventually are permanent socialist 2nd world status or military dictatorship.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at August 18, 2015 09:35 AM (RD7QR)

54 Maybe but the alternative is worst
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2015 09:33 AM (gf8BH)

What we have now is "the alternative." It's government unconstrained by law. I see no reason to expect that to change, regardless of who's elected.

If you disagree, please explain to me what force will arise to compel the federal government to return to the constraints of the Constitution.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 18, 2015 09:36 AM (u5gzz)

55 What about this?

http://tinyurl.com/okwdjdo

Posted by: steevy at August 18, 2015 09:36 AM (sPO3u)

56 Forward to victory!

Posted by: Mobile Armor Tank Dukakis at August 18, 2015 09:37 AM (Iey3T)

57 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 18, 2015 09:33 AM (kdS6q)

Yeah you go with that. What is Trump's plan to do with the illegals already here that haven't committed a crime as he describes it?

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 18, 2015 09:37 AM (cJswI)

58 Holy shit. The Federalist has gone all out in attacking Trump.

I mean, Vox level stupidity stuff like: How Trump's Immigration Plan Really Benefits the Political Elite.*


*written by an international trade attorney.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 18, 2015 09:38 AM (ZvKdv)

59 I love watching the spittle fly out of the mouths of establishment GrOPers like Jar Caruso, who still cannot comprehend why voters are rejecting a GOP establishment that supports Obamacare, Obamatrade, and executive amnesty.

Posted by: V the K at August 18, 2015 09:38 AM (O7MnT)

60 Besides that not being accurate, Romney ain't
running. You Trump guys don't sweat the details. It's all generalities
with you.

Posted by: Cruzinator


Oh PLEASE CROOOOOOOZZZZZINATOR! These are known actual FACTS.

Please tell me how I am a big Trump guy . Tell me how I have to love your ambulance - chaser over everyone or I am a RINO!!

Give me a break.

I have not yet picked a candidate bet you can bet your ass I will not name myself after some lickspittle politician.

Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 09:38 AM (HJqXj)

61 Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2015 09:35 AM (TOk1

Unless of course they agree with you.

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 18, 2015 09:38 AM (cJswI)

62 For the future of post-Ferguson policing, see the UK, especially the Rotherham scandal. In that perverse universe, it's better to let an outrage go on than be accused of racism

And Sweden's rape jihad, where 99% of rapes are committed by immigrants (wink, wink).
________________

That's already going on here. The MSM never report facts about illegal alien crimes. Nationwide, illegal aliens account for 37% of all the murders in the U.S., even though illegal aliens are supposed to be less than 5% of the total U.S. population. In Florida between 2009 - 2014, illegal aliens accounted for a full 40% of all murder convictions in the state.

But shhhhhhh. We must not talk about illegal aliens' propensity for committing violent crimes at rates hugely disproportionate to their representation in the population. It might hurt some foreign criminal's feelings. Or it might be construed as raaaaaacist. Or some billionaire business owner might worry that it will lead to reducing his ability to get unlimited numbers of cheaper foreign workers.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 18, 2015 09:38 AM (kGrdk)

63 Froth level reaching critical levels, Captain. Take evasive action now!




Later.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at August 18, 2015 09:39 AM (NeFrd)

64 >>>Guess the tide is changing when you can't count on the WashPost and people like Mika to stick up for you.
.
.
.However every time they beat up on her Mika qualifies most of her statements with; I am still going to vote for her but......

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 18, 2015 09:39 AM (iONHu)

65 >>I can remember when blogs spending a disproportinate amount of time critizing the Republican front runner instead of Democrats was a bad thing.

Eh, I remember a lot of pixels spent on Todd Akin and that "I am not a witch" candidate.

Regarding changing views on an issue - I would think that Obama has been so polarizing, and so bad, that a lot of people have moved further to the right than they were even 6 years ago. A perfect example is with SSM, where a lot of "live and let live" conservatives/Christians weren't all that concerned about it/resistant too it until the SJWs/MSM/Dem politicians started all of their witchhunts against anyone who did not embrace it enthusiastically.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 09:39 AM (NOIQH)

66 EPA goes after methane.

I had a conversation w/a former state-level congressman, pretty well known locally, we were talking about the destruction of the coal industry. then he dropped this in:
"You know what they're [the government] is going after next? Meat."
It appears he was correct. Farm animals are a large source of methane no?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 18, 2015 09:39 AM (5buP8)

67 The NRO article is topped by a web-ad from Boeing.

I think this explains NRO's sudden love affair with the GOP establishment and the Ex-Im bank.

Posted by: V the K at August 18, 2015 09:40 AM (O7MnT)

68 Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 09:38 AM (HJqXj)

I'll let your posts speak for themselves.

Posted by: Cruzinator at August 18, 2015 09:40 AM (cJswI)

69 She lost Mika? Guess the knives are out to get someone viable running.

Mika's been hard on Hillary for a while. I had thought it was because she wanted Princess Cheekbones, but a couple of weeks ago she came out and said she wants Biden.

And yes, I take Mika as a proxy for what the establishment Left wants.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at August 18, 2015 09:40 AM (JtwS4)

70 . I really can't tell one from another, and cannot for the life of me imagine why I should.
Posted by: BurtTC

Right there with you brother, "who the f are you and why the f should I care what you say?"

Mark Stein excepted.

Posted by: traye at August 18, 2015 09:41 AM (N8WBd)

71
Yeah you go with that.
Posted by: Cruzinator



Given that it's factually accurate, I shall.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 18, 2015 09:41 AM (kdS6q)

72 66 I think they ( other government agencies)have already been going after it.Barack said right in the beginning we Americans " eat too much".

Posted by: steevy at August 18, 2015 09:41 AM (sPO3u)

73 Billionaire investor George Soros has opened new equity stakes in Peabody Energy Corp. and Arch Coal Inc., the country's top two coal producers, according to a Form 13F-HR filed Aug. 14.

Soros acquired more than 1 million shares of Peabody and 553,200 shares of Arch in the second quarter, according to the filing. He reported no other coal holdings in the period.

Soros makes investments through his Soros Fund Management LLC fund. Soros' holdings may have changed significantly since the end of the second quarter ended June 30.

Soros last invested in the coal sector in 2014 when he opened a large stake in coal and gas producer CONSOL Energy Inc., but he later liquidated it.

Both Peabody and Arch have seen their market values plummet amid extremely difficult operating conditions for domestic producers caused by competition from cheap natural gas, new environmental regulations and a slowing export market.


... and a big shout out to President Barack Obama .. without his "War on Coal", George Soros could never have bought it so low.

Posted by: Gordon Gecko at August 18, 2015 09:41 AM (e8kgV)

74 Trump is a test for the party and the pundits, and they're failing.

Screaming at the disaffected is not going to win them back. It's going to make them more disaffected.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 18, 2015 09:41 AM (oVJmc)

75 >>However every time they beat up on her Mika qualifies most of her statements with; I am still going to vote for her but.

Mika didn't say that today - it was disgust across the board, w/Joe just flabbergasted w/the disrespect she was showing for top secret docs (particularly her snapchat joke in Iowa).

Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 09:42 AM (NOIQH)

76 66 EPA goes after methane.

I had a conversation w/a former state-level congressman, pretty well known locally, we were talking about the destruction of the coal industry. then he dropped this in:
"You know what they're [the government] is going after next? Meat."
It appears he was correct. Farm animals are a large source of methane no?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 18, 2015 09:39 AM (5buP

EPA is owned by the radical greens, and that includes the animal rights types. If they can use enviro-regulation to outlaw meat they will happily do so.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at August 18, 2015 09:42 AM (RD7QR)

77 We've already reached the point in this pussy slapfight where every level of hyperbole has been deployed, every exacerbation of emotional distress expressed, and there is nothing new to be said. Just louder, less coherent repetitions. And to think we're only one debate in. Have fun withy this one, boys and girls, I'll eventually tune back into the race, probably around Thanksgiving.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 18, 2015 09:42 AM (2cS/G)

78 I posted this weekend that I was getting sick of Trump's non specifics on immigration. I am not sold on Trump and believe that he will probably sell his supporters out. But you are so in the tank for Cruz that you are blinded from reality.

Let me guess: big Romney guy, amirite?

Maybe you should pull your head out of Cruz' ass and actually read people's comments sometime.

Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 09:42 AM (HJqXj)

79 "Under my plan, the price of energy would necessarily skyrocket." Edit to add:
-Food
-Healthcare insurance
-Gold
-Ammo

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 18, 2015 09:42 AM (5buP8)

80 @51

The weird thing is, I think most of the support for Trump is simply because he's the F-U candidate. It's a sign of the crumbling of the GOP that many in the base are taking jackhammers to the foundations of the party just to spite the leaders. Burn, scatter, salt, as AllenG says.

Posted by: Agent J at August 18, 2015 09:42 AM (ueOgE)

81 >>>>Yeah you go with that. What is Trump's plan to do with the illegals
already here that haven't committed a crime as he describes it?
.
.
.
.It's sort of like the weather. Wait five minutes and it will change.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 18, 2015 09:43 AM (iONHu)

82 Posted by: Soothsayer II, thirty-two-time Top Commenter at August 18, 2015 09:22 AM (R/CND)

We should go back into Iraq.

With B-52s. Around the clock.

Show ISIS what war really is.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2015 09:44 AM (Zu3d9)

83 For what it's worth, Trump's 1999 book 'The America We Deserve' describes an immigration plan similar to what he has today. Most of the book is conservative. He was a big fan of the Reform party and early Jesse Ventura before Jesse Ventura went full retard.

Posted by: Old Hob at August 18, 2015 09:44 AM (VRc/p)

84 ... and a big shout out to President Barack Obama .. without his "War on Coal", George Soros could never have bought it so low.
Posted by: Gordon Gecko at August 18, 2015 09:41 AM (e8kgV)

Hrm. So how do you inflate their market value and still keep the enviro-left happy?

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at August 18, 2015 09:44 AM (RD7QR)

85 >>Jeffrey Blehar is an elections analyst at the Ace of Spades HQ DecisionDesk and an attorney in Chicago.<<

And also apt to writing comparative analogies that in reality have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

Methinks the "purity" clause is well over estimated and people are just fed up with the cowardly mendacity of the party. People are also disgusted with the politically correct, vapid notions on an entire class who puts pathos arguments about people who are no citizens above the needs of the people who elected them. People who are a a majority of the electorate they need...or should I say previously used like a napkin.

Trump is of course the furthest one can get from a "socialist". He's also not an ideological purist. Does that means it's "reasonable" to support him? Well, no it's not. But the people who are "sane" are telling us to support Bush. Yes, of course another tired, worn politician who looks like a lite version of the opposition that is destroying the country. That should stack up well against the, er, tired worn corrupt politician that is the Democrats likely nominee.

Enjoy the fucking ride. Because all those "crazy" people are driving the bus and calling then pejoratives just puts gas in the tank.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 18, 2015 09:44 AM (GGCsk)

86 That Reason article is even sneerier than your average Wellesley English class. It oughta be exhibit A next time someone asks why nobody likes libertarians.
The column is mild compared with the comments.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 18, 2015 09:44 AM (4TTES)

87 The weird thing is, I think most of the support for Trump is simply because he's the F-U candidate


shhhhhh you'll ruin cruzinator's conspiracy theory.

Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 09:45 AM (HJqXj)

88 >>"You know what they're [the government] is going after next? Meat."
It appears he was correct. Farm animals are a large source of methane no?

Yep, this is definitely the goal: vegan diets for all.
Last year a vegan activist was put in charge of the committee that drafts the USDA's dietary guidelines.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 09:45 AM (NOIQH)

89 My neck's getting sore
That's what she said!

Posted by: michael scott at August 18, 2015 09:46 AM (4TTES)

90 I think most of the support for Trump is simply because he's the F-U candidate.

The Reason article is interesting. Add up Trump's numbers, Carson's, and Fiorina's and you have nearly half of GOP voters supporting candidates who have never held office.

That's a big middle finger to the GOP.

Posted by: V the K at August 18, 2015 09:46 AM (O7MnT)

91 Morning Horde. Still getting chapped hide over Kasich.

Kasich.

John. Effing. Kasich.


Sigh. Well, at least I know who the GOPe's backup plan is now.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 18, 2015 09:46 AM (2l5vw)

92 82 Posted by: Soothsayer II, thirty-two-time Top Commenter at August 18, 2015 09:22 AM (R/CND)

We should go back into Iraq.

With B-52s. Around the clock.

Show ISIS what war really is.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2015 09:44 AM (Zu3d9)

If we had carpet bombed the fuckers the moment they started deploying -- I mean a Linebacker-style bombing campaign with strategic bombers hitting them every day for a month -- we might not be here. But strategic bombing looks bloody awful on TV so we'll never see it again.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at August 18, 2015 09:47 AM (RD7QR)

93 Both Peabody and Arch have seen their market values plummet amid extremely difficult operating conditions for domestic producers caused by competition from cheap natural gas, new environmental regulations and a slowing export market.

Patriot Coal is in receivership. (I think they were a loss dump for Peabody.) NPR did a story about how this is devastating W.Virginia's economy. They didn't catch their own irony.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 18, 2015 09:47 AM (5buP8)

94 I don't know why I bother being enraged over Billary's emails any more.

We know that nobody will do anything about them. Her sycophants don't care enough about them to not vote for her. She'll keep saying it's all part of the vast blahdyblahblah and the MFM will suck it up.

Posted by: Hank at August 18, 2015 09:47 AM (0Aqa7)

95
In fun news, John McCain got chased off the Navaho reservation:

http://tinyurl.com/pujooe9

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 18, 2015 09:47 AM (kdS6q)

96 Load the canister rounds! Fix bayonets!

Posted by: Mobile Armor Tank Dukakis at August 18, 2015 09:47 AM (Iey3T)

97 Add up Trump's numbers, Carson's, and Fiorina's and you have nearly half of GOP voters supporting candidates who have never held office.

How hard is this? People want someone who isn't tainted by the GOPe's collaboration with the lawless Obama regime. There's maybe a handful of folks actually in Washington who haven't been complicit in the whole sorry business and they aren't running for President. Therefore...dear God, do I have to draw these stupid f***s a picture?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 18, 2015 09:48 AM (2l5vw)

98 Maybe you should pull your head out of Cruz' ass and actually read people's comments sometime. Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 09:42 AM

For me, the biggest knock on Cruz -- yes, even worse than his love for illegals and H1-Bs -- is his pathetic performance in the Senate.

When it came time to vote on Choom Boy's Super-Secret Trade Bill, he was off fund-raising. When Corker's little slice of treason came up for a vote, he was silent.

That's enough to scratch him off the list, IMO. And he is, supposedly, one of the best candidates in the field.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 18, 2015 09:48 AM (0atQl)

99 Michelle's school lunches also limit protein - think the max serving size is 6oz. It's like we've forgotten why Americans grow so big and strong while people in 3rd world countries w/low protein diets are small and sickly.

Oh, and Michelle cribbed her whole school lunch initiative from Soros' Center for American Progress.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 09:49 AM (NOIQH)

100 We should go back into Iraq.


With B-52s. Around the clock.


Show ISIS what war really is.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2015 09:44 AM (Zu3d9)

Why? just because we can and they deserve to die? It's cheaper and more efficient if we get ISIS and Shiites to kill each other.

Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 09:49 AM (ioGjO)

101 That he is sitting on his hands regarding that abuse of power tells me he is not qualified to be President--where he'll be head of multiple far more virulent and dangerous (to ordinary Americans) agencies.

Until he does, to all you pushing Walker: HE WILL NOT CHANGE A DAMNED THING IN DC.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 18, 2015 09:25 AM (ZvKdv)

------------------------

Yes this is very troubling to me. His main supporters and workers were persecuted for helping him and he sat by and did nothing.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at August 18, 2015 09:49 AM (LXJ1e)

102 That robot doesn't look very scary. All you'd have to do is double back behind it, and sever its "umbilical cord" with an axe.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2015 09:50 AM (yQtWA)

103 Krauthammer "crushes" Hillary Clinton?

Really?

He said it that Snapchat crack just shows what a terrible candidate she is. That's "crushing?"

I thought JWF was above linkbait-style headlines.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 18, 2015 09:50 AM (PFy0L)

104 We should go back into Iraq.

With B-52s. Around the clock.


What, and interrupt Kate Pierson's honeymoon?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 18, 2015 09:50 AM (2l5vw)

105 This Is Interesting Until You Imagine This Chasing You Down


This cannot possibly end well.

Have 7 decades of sci-fi films taught us NOTHING?


Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 18, 2015 09:50 AM (7ObY1)

106 We should go back into Iraq.



With B-52s. Around the clock.



Show ISIS what war really is.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


Agreed.

MOABs /daisycutters FTW

Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 09:50 AM (HJqXj)

107 John. Effing. Kasich.



Sigh. Well, at least I know who the GOPe's backup plan is now.


I did think it was fishy when Kasich got the question in the debate that let him go all squishy on gays.

'John Kasich. Your Happy Face Republican.'

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 18, 2015 09:51 AM (oVJmc)

108 >>> Telling The Truth About Trump Is Not Why We Lose


Damn, that was one useless "article"

Let me say, as an opponent to the GOPe, you guys just keep believing all of that, K?

Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at August 18, 2015 09:51 AM (3ZtZW)

109 If the GOP is chaffed, they should blame themselves.

How'd all that "the Tea Party is crazy, a majority of people are unreasonable, we are putting Washington back to work (haha), a small vocal majority opposes immigration, we are only two-thirds of the government, we have to work with the president, we are surrendering Congresses powers to the executive, we don't know what happened on the Iran deal (right), people won't notice the "sausage making" of Congress bullshit work out?

Posted by: Marcus T at August 18, 2015 09:51 AM (GGCsk)

110 Why? just because we can and they deserve to die?

...your point being...?

OK, so I may be getting a wee bit overboard with the whole "watch the world burn" thing.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 18, 2015 09:51 AM (2l5vw)

111 Hrm. So how do you inflate their market value and still keep the enviro-left happy?

The thought buy-it-to-kill-it ran through my mind. That kind of dough is rolling around Soros' his ashtray.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 18, 2015 09:51 AM (5buP8)

112 95
In fun news, John McCain got chased off the Navaho reservation:


Did Fauxcahontas don her war paint and join in?

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 18, 2015 09:51 AM (7ObY1)

113 I don't know why I bother being enraged over Billary's emails any more.
We know that nobody will do anything about them. Her sycophants
don't care enough about them to not vote for her. She'll keep saying
it's all part of the vast blahdyblahblah and the MFM will suck it up.

Posted by: Hank at August 18, 2015 09:47 AM


And, in the cosmic sense, it's not even that big a story. It pales in comparison to Choom Boy's treasonous doings, for example.

But it's easier to attack Shrillery.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 18, 2015 09:51 AM (0atQl)

114 >>In fun news, John McCain got chased off the Navaho reservation:


Yeah, the Navaoho leader he met with made a comment about how winning sports teams get a call from Obama the next day, but not a peep from him about this disaster. Good to see typically Dem-supporting groups finally figuring out that he really doesn't care about them.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 09:51 AM (NOIQH)

115 Apropos of nothing there's an ad for Seattle's Best coffee up on the site that slags on Dunkin' Donuts. I got a cup of Seattle's Best at an airport and it's the only coffee I've ever spit out and thrown the rest away.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2015 09:52 AM (2Ojst)

116 Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 09:49 AM (ioGjO)

To limit ISIS to a small area. That's the reason to degrade their abilities with strategic bombing.

And it's not one or the other....I am a big fan of Muslims killing other Muslims.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2015 09:52 AM (Zu3d9)

117 One of my favorite "converts" was Andrew Breitbart.

Posted by: parteagirl at August 18, 2015 09:18 AM (K0jlM)

There's long been a saying in religious matters that there's no believers like a convert. My parents were Reagan Democrats, they cast their first votes as Republicans for him, and I was raised with Limbaugh on the radio on the drive home from school. I was turned into a headful of mush by the public school system, and only regained my reason when someone handed me a copy of the US Constitution and the Declaration on flag day when I was in college.

I read the whole thing from cover to cover. The Declaration was its usual "America F-yeah! experience that I always remembered. But the Constitution was unfamiliar territory. That got amended, and that got amended, and wait a minute... WAIT A DAMNED MINUTE, it says right here that the government can't do things that aren't in the document, WTF?
That was the moment the Tea Party was born, in my mind. Probably 3-4 years before I actually joined in the raucous first-minute postings following Santelli's Speech Heard Round The World and began (as many others did) associating his message with a return to the Constitution as the best means of preventing such abuses.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 18, 2015 09:52 AM (HalrA)

118 Kasich is apparently the back up plan if Jeb boy flames out.

Posted by: steevy at August 18, 2015 09:53 AM (sPO3u)

119 Anyone notice that literally every single person in this Democrat consulting firm in Denver is non-diverse?

I see white people

Posted by: bjk at August 18, 2015 09:53 AM (x2rNW)

120 I did think it was fishy when Kasich got the question in the debate that let him go all squishy on gays.

I know, right? I mean it's like someone suddenly decided at random they would try to push Kasich, get him over where Jeb was failing miserably. Kasich. Who most GOP voters outside Ohio couldn't pick out of a lineup.

Madness.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 18, 2015 09:53 AM (2l5vw)

121 102 That robot doesn't look very scary. All you'd have to do is double back behind it, and sever its "umbilical cord" with an axe.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2015 09:50 AM (yQtWA)

I think the robo-dog is scarier, and at this point it's autonomous (IIRC). Give it a head with razors for teeth and the jihadis will shit their pants and toss away their AKs. Which might be the whole point.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at August 18, 2015 09:53 AM (RD7QR)

122 115
Apropos of nothing there's an ad for Seattle's Best coffee up on the
site that slags on Dunkin' Donuts. I got a cup of Seattle's Best at an
airport and it's the only coffee I've ever spit out and thrown the rest
away.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2015 09:52 AM (2Ojst)

i'm drinking #4 right now.....i like it.....it's bad?

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 18, 2015 09:53 AM (0O7c5)

123 Hunger striker regains consciousness, refuses terms for release
Mohammed Allaan's lawyer says his client refuses to spend even one day abroad as a term for his release, saying if a solution is not found until Wednesday morning he will stop recieving all medical treatment.

Good! I am against releasing you anyway. Die


Someone is doing something stupid? Carry on!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 18, 2015 09:53 AM (LImvu)

124 To tell you the truth, I can't think of too many things more useless in this world than all these so-called conservative writers at all these webzines. I really can't tell one from another, and cannot for the life of me imagine why I should.

===


THIS

Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists at August 18, 2015 09:54 AM (3ZtZW)

125 76
EPA is owned by the radical greens, and that includes the animal rights types. If they can use enviro-regulation to outlaw meat they will happily do so.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at August 18, 2015 09:42 AM (RD7QR)


Oh, they won't outlaw it. They will just make it so expensive that only the rich can afford it.

The rest of us can stand in line for our ration of gruel.

Posted by: rickl at August 18, 2015 09:54 AM (zoehZ)

126 45 "Jay has been following politics closely since 1992 when he was a moderate Democrat. It was Bill Clinton's lie about a middle class tax cut that pushed Jay over the edge to conservatism..."
So Mr Caruso is allowed a change of heart over Clinton's lies but Mr Trump is not over Obama's massively-worse lies? Oooookay.
Posted by: andycanuck at August 18, 2015 09:31 AM (4TTES)

So Jay voted for Clinton in '92. Well hell, I voted for Bush that makes me 1000x better more qualified to comment Republican politics.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at August 18, 2015 09:54 AM (LXJ1e)

127 your point being...?


OK, so I may be getting a wee bit overboard with the whole "watch the world burn" thing.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 18, 2015 09:51 AM (2l5vw)

My point being, how about we do this smarter and not necessarily on our bill. ISIS, Syria, Iraq, and Iran will fight each other without us playing Jerry Springer.

How about we take on the role of Jerry Springer and let them hurt each other for a bit? Saves us money and lives. Is ISIS a direct threat right now? If they start doing bigger terrorist attacks in America, then yeah, we should kill them.

Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 09:54 AM (ioGjO)

128 125 The ideal future for the left looks a lot like the one in Soylent Green.

Posted by: steevy at August 18, 2015 09:55 AM (sPO3u)

129 Trump 2016! It's probably the only way congress will ever stop executive power grabs and overreach.

Posted by: Bobby Singer at August 18, 2015 09:55 AM (z/Ubi)

130 "school lunches also limit protein - think the max serving size is 6oz. It's like we've forgotten why Americans grow so big and strong while people in 3rd world countries w/low protein diets are small and sickly."

^^^THIS ! times elebenty !^^^

We have forgotten so very much, and intentionally so.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 18, 2015 09:55 AM (go6ud)

131 Why? just because we can and they deserve to die? It's cheaper and more efficient if we get ISIS and Shiites to kill each other. Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 09:49 AM

Agreed, except for one minor point: an American Aluminum Cloud over Teheran would cause less collateral damage. Put another way, it wouldn't endanger as many Israelis as allowing the various Muzzie factions to have at it.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 18, 2015 09:55 AM (0atQl)

132 Telling The Truth About Trump Is Not Why We Lose

3. Obama would have beaten any Republican candidate in 2008. It was a year for Democrats and Obama was not going to lose.


Um, no. If the treasonous MFM had told even a small part of the TRUTH about Obama, and/or if the GOPe hadn't run Juan F'ing McLame, who happily took the role of Designated Loser, the GOPe did not have to lose the 2008 election.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 18, 2015 09:55 AM (7ObY1)

133 That's the reason to degrade their abilities with strategic bombing.

Is "degrade their abilities" code for "kill them and break their s***"? Because if so I'm totes down for that.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 18, 2015 09:55 AM (2l5vw)

134 So if it's going to be All Things Trump I will bring the appropriate silliness.

For some reason he declared that Heidi Klum is no longer a 10.

She retorts: http://bit.ly/1TR1RjE

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at August 18, 2015 09:56 AM (JtwS4)

135 Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 09:49 AM (ioGjO)
To limit ISIS to a small area. That's the reason to degrade their abilities with strategic bombing.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2015 09:52 AM (Zu3d9)

Ahhh, I thought you wanted to wipe them off quickly. I'm not saying a quick huge bombing campaign ain't a bad idea. I just think there are better ones.

Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 09:57 AM (ioGjO)

136 My point being, how about we do this smarter and not necessarily on our bill. ISIS, Syria, Iraq, and Iran will fight each other without us playing Jerry Springer.

Uh, yeah, no, that won't happen so long as we're still standing. Not to the extent we'd need it to. Sorry.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 18, 2015 09:57 AM (2l5vw)

137 Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 18, 2015 09:50 AM (2l5vw)

In the future please provide a warning if the woman mentioned in your comment is not worth "Binging" to see whether she has a nice rack.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2015 09:57 AM (Zu3d9)

138 What WeirdDave post got pulled? I didn't see it.




Posted by: RoyalOil at August 18, 2015 09:26 AM (ZvKdv)


It
was a Saturday post a couple weeks ago. Essentially critiquing Rick
Wilson's piece, and some "powerful" people around here... most likely
NOT Ace, decided they didn't like that.


Apparently we're
supposed to know who Rick Wilson is, and apparently instead of engaging
in free speech, whoever it was, one of the Cobs most likely, decided to
censor the piece instead.
============

Saw it here: http://preview.tinyurl.com/njoj45j

F Rick Wilson in the A. And anyone who thinks Rick has sound advice.

If you can't see that people are not supporting Trump because of Trump; that you can't see that it is what he is SAYING now that is the reason for support: YOU ARE THE FUCKING PROBLEM.

But go on, sidle up to the ol' John McCain Wing*, call them whack-o birds, insult them and mock them--that'll drive 'em to the polls for the GOP in 2016.

*Remember oh not so long ago when Trump's attack on McCain was the "and now Trump's campaign has crashed and burned to the ground for sure." Which crash and burn moment are we on now? 6th? 7th?

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 18, 2015 09:57 AM (ZvKdv)

139 I like Trump's immigration policy, even though it is a lie. He would NEVER implement it. Never intends to.

Posted by: maddogg at August 18, 2015 09:57 AM (xWW96)

140 I have been watching the stock market the last few months since QE Infinity had stopped and darned it if doesn't like the stock market's rise stopped about the same time too. Extremely odd isn't it?

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 18, 2015 09:57 AM (iONHu)

141 I'm for Trump precisely because it gives pretentious cocktail-party blowhard nobodies like Jay Caruso the jitters.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at August 18, 2015 09:58 AM (PFy0L)

142 111 Hrm. So how do you inflate their market value and still keep the enviro-left happy?

The thought buy-it-to-kill-it ran through my mind. That kind of dough is rolling around Soros' his ashtray.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 18, 2015 09:51 AM (5buP

That actually makes sense. And maybe Obama made nuclear a big part of his clean energy plan because Soros has invested in some aspect of nuclear. That might be a research project for some enterprising business journalist.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at August 18, 2015 09:58 AM (RD7QR)

143 130
"school lunches also limit protein - think the max serving size is 6oz.
It's like we've forgotten why Americans grow so big and strong while
people in 3rd world countries w/low protein diets are small and sickly."



^^^THIS ! times elebenty !^^^



We have forgotten so very much, and intentionally so.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 18, 2015 09:55 AM (go6ud)

Low protein diets are also used to control people in cults. Usually by banning meat and other dietary strictures. They make people sickly and compliant.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 18, 2015 09:58 AM (HalrA)

144 Damn socks.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 18, 2015 09:58 AM (z/Ubi)

145 i'm drinking #4 right now.....i like it.....it's bad?
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 18, 2015 09:53 AM (0O7c5)

I'm certainly in no position to judge your tastebuds - it's just that the only cup of coffee I've ever had that was so bad I trashed it was Seattle's Best.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2015 09:59 AM (2Ojst)

146 Agreed, except for one minor point: an American
Aluminum Cloud over Teheran would cause less collateral damage. Put
another way, it wouldn't endanger as many Israelis as allowing the
various Muzzie factions to have at it.


Posted by: MrScribbler at August 18, 2015 09:55 AM (0atQl)
Completely agree, except that I don't place Israel that high on the list. They're an ally and we should protect them and fight with them more than Ukraine. Bombing Tehran would probably cause an escalation, is that what you mean by the aluminum cloud?

Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 09:59 AM (ioGjO)

147 However every time they beat up on her Mika qualifies most of her statements with; I am still going to vote for her but......

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 18, 2015 09:39 AM (iONHu)


The only way Scankles could lose Mika's vote is if she came out as a Jew.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 18, 2015 09:59 AM (zF6Iw)

148 Damn, that was one useless "article"


Let me say, as an opponent to the GOPe, you guys just keep believing all of that, K?

Posted by: Bigby's Expressive Wrists


Honestly,I have never really read up much about Trump and didn't care to. He was that guy on that tvshow that I don't watch.

He has made some smart sales moves and made some pretty good noises . I have no idea how he would govern or even if he is another FRED! with no real sustained interest in campaigning.

I really hate being told by cult of personality worshippers and establishment assholes how stupid I am for asking questions and trying to get information on this guy.

The reactions are ridiculous. I can only guess that their fear of losing a vote from "their guy" is motivating this level of retardation.

Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 09:59 AM (HJqXj)

149 In the future please provide a warning if the woman mentioned in your comment is not worth "Binging" to see whether she has a nice rack.

To be fair, I hadn't checked to see if a dried out lesbian progtard musician whose heyday was the 70s was Bingworthy or not. So much for relying on context...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 18, 2015 09:59 AM (2l5vw)

150 Inaugurating the 4-day gathering, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani warned that enemy is seeking to create divisions in the region and portray Islam as the religion of violence and extremism, urging resistance against such plots.

"The enemy intends to turn the religion of morality and brotherhood into a religion of violence, extremism, killing, discord and rift and we should stand up to such deviation and distortion," Rouhani told the participants, Press TV reported.

"We should not allow enemies to use terrorist groups to portray the religion of Islam... as the religion of killing, violence and destruction," he noted.

He said all Muslims should remain united to thwart the plot and illustrate Islam as the religion of peace.

Posted by: UBL at August 18, 2015 10:00 AM (e8kgV)

151 139
I like Trump's immigration policy, even though it is a lie. He would NEVER implement it. Never intends to.

Posted by: maddogg at August 18, 2015 09:57 AM (xWW96)

miss lindsey is all bent out of shape about it....says it will ruin the republican party!! because miss lindsey and his/her ilk haven't already destroyed it.......enough

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 18, 2015 10:00 AM (0O7c5)

152 The IT company Hilary Clinton chose to maintain her private email account was run from a loft apartment and its servers were housed in the bathroom closet, Daily Mail Online can reveal.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2015 10:01 AM (gf8BH)

153 139
I like Trump's immigration policy, even though it is a lie. He would NEVER implement it. Never intends to.

Posted by: maddogg



I think that this is true.

Morally right? Yes.

Profitable ? No.

Always follow the money.

Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 10:01 AM (HJqXj)

154 And just to remind: Romney's "self-deportation" comment was the 2nd biggest reason he lost the Hispanic vote.

The 1st was his utter refusal to do ANY Spanish-language advertising or appearances.

That allowed Obama a free hand to run with the self-deportation comment and twist it into "deportation of any and all Hispanics who were not born here to American citizens."

So yes, it's good that Trump is on record as opposing the "self-deportation." Because, for huge chunks of Hispanics, that's all they know about Republicans.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 18, 2015 10:01 AM (ZvKdv)

155 "I think the robo-dog is scarier, and at this point it's autonomous (IIRC). Give it a head with razors for teeth and the jihadis will shit their pants and toss away their AKs. Which might be the whole point."

Like we would use anything scary or effective against actual enemies of America ?

I see them as being used against Tea Partiers and kulaks hiding out on the woods.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 18, 2015 10:02 AM (go6ud)

156 152
The IT company Hilary Clinton chose to maintain her private email
account was run from a loft apartment and its servers were housed in the
bathroom closet, Daily Mail Online can reveal.



Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2015 10:01 AM (gf8BH)

no wonder this whole thing stinks!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 18, 2015 10:02 AM (0O7c5)

157 >>We should go back into Iraq.
With B-52s. Around the clock.
Show ISIS what war really is.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2015 09:44 AM (Zu3d9)<<

Screw that.

M777 and an M982 rounds, PzH, Archer, all types of 155mm etc. on the border plus some some push button cruise missiles. Have a sandwich and enjoy the show.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 18, 2015 10:02 AM (GGCsk)

158 Ann coulter gave Trump a personal, advance copy of her book, adios america. I'd say that affected his views.


Plus he looks like he's very sensitive to latinos with his 12 comments. Gives all pundits splodey heads.


But his official policy is clear, in writing, is sessions, and he's been pounding the drum day one on illegal immigration.

Posted by: Prescient11 at August 18, 2015 10:02 AM (VMZsK)

159 Hey look! An article from Reason sniffing and looking down its nose at conservatives, that's new.

At least it's Matt Welsh this time instead of Goth Fonzie. Variety is the spice of life y'know.

Posted by: Weirddave at August 18, 2015 10:02 AM (WvS3w)

160
I have been watching the stock market the last few months since QE
Infinity had stopped and darned it if doesn't like the stock market's
rise stopped about the same time too. Extremely odd isn't it?


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 18, 2015 09:57 AM (iONHu)
Yeah, I wish it would drop soon though..... Maybe it'll stay flat for a long time because China is tanking and the dollar is gaining value.

Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 10:03 AM (ioGjO)

161
Jay Caruso takes the same tired tack of spraying spittle on people for supporting Trump rather than trying to win them away.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel




That's "failed baby photographer" Jay Caruso.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 18, 2015 10:04 AM (kdS6q)

162 I have always wondered why,when we see footage of lots of ISIS "warriors" driving fleets of trucks we don't "drone bomb" on sight. It seems as it would be an easy way to ,at least, deprive them of their transportation. They don't all seem to be hiding behind walls and hostages.

Posted by: Chilling the most at August 18, 2015 10:04 AM (zW5rQ)

163 Posted by: RoyalOil at August 18, 2015 09:57 AM (ZvKdv)

How do you know who pulled the post? I sure don't. You're assuming it was a cob but not Ace. Based on what?

As for free speech? This site is owned by Ace. He or his agents decide how it's run. It is not a free speech issue since as far as I can tell no government agent was involved in the decision.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2015 10:04 AM (Zu3d9)

164 Posted by: RoyalOil at August 18, 2015 09:57 AM (ZvKdv)

Just read it, and I agree. Wilson seems to be deliberately missing the point to run interference for the GOPe.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2015 10:04 AM (2Ojst)

165 From last thread

@Very reluctant to suggest this, but isn't "Jobs Americans won't do" code for "jobs certain American communities won't do?" V the K

Or "Jobs Americans won't do for 10 bucks an hour"

(but Hajji will IF we lie on the forms - hell , call him a 'System Engineer')


Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 10:05 AM (HJqXj)

166 >>Low protein diets are also used to control people in cults. Usually by banning meat and other dietary strictures. They make people sickly and compliant.

Which is why I am not thrilled about the EPA/USDA seeming to be at war with livestock.
School lunches we can and do avoid, we can't if they put a lot of cattle ranchers, pig and poultry farmer out of business.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 10:06 AM (NOIQH)

167 If they've changed a "core principle" or two, that's what I'd call a convert. Converts make the most passionate persuaders because they've seen both sides and became convinced enough to switch.

One of my favorite "converts" was Andrew Breitbart.
Posted by: parteagirl at August 18, 2015 09:18 AM (K0jlM)

Do you honestly think Donald Trump is a sincere conservative?
Really?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at August 18, 2015 10:06 AM (u0lmX)

168 Low protein diets are also used to control people in cults. Usually by banning meat and other dietary strictures. They make people sickly and compliant.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 18, 2015 09:58 AM (HalrA)

True, from what I understand. Could this be part of the motivation for the trays of shit Moochelle is demanding be fed to our kids in school?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2015 10:06 AM (2Ojst)

169 ...so daily mail is reporting that Clintons server was in a bathroom closet in a loft apartment in Colorado managed by some big time Dem donors in a small mom-and-pop IT shop.

That makes no sense.

Also, does that mean she DIDN'T have full time secret service protection of her server? As in, it wasn't in Chappaqua, and that was another thing she lied about?

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:07 AM (AkOaV)

170 I really hate being told by cult of personality
worshippers and establishment assholes how stupid I am for asking
questions and trying to get information on this guy.

The
reactions are ridiculous. I can only guess that their fear of losing a
vote from "their guy" is motivating this level of retardation.


Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 09:59 AM (HJqXj)

Go ahead and vet him, but do keep in mind that people sometimes do make real changes too. A lot of our best people were once Democrats.

And, well, maybe he is just a canny media personality who's realized that there's a disenfranchised movement he can ride into the Presidency. If he wants to win a second term, he'll have to deliver the goods or his disenfranchised support will evaporate back to whence it came.
Maybe he intends to get his face on Rushmore some day? He's a big self-promoter like that, and I can't see him not wanting to put his name and/or image on something big. But you have to be yuuge to get there, and giving people a lot of what they want when their politicians are re-enacting the stabbing scene from Julius Caesar on them is the meal ticket.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 18, 2015 10:07 AM (HalrA)

171 Have a sandwich and enjoy the show.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 18, 2015 10:02 AM (GGCsk)

B-52s only because they do not place any Americans in harm's way. Sure, one may crash, and that would suck, but artillery on the ground is a bigger risk (I think).

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2015 10:07 AM (Zu3d9)

172 117 One of my favorite "converts" was Andrew Breitbart.

Posted by: parteagirl at August 18, 2015 09:18 AM (K0jlM)

There's long been a saying in religious matters that there's no believers like a convert. My parents were Reagan Democrats, they cast their first votes as Republicans for him, and I was raised with Limbaugh on the radio on the drive home from school. I was turned into a headful of mush by the public school system, and only regained my reason when someone handed me a copy of the US Constitution and the Declaration on flag day when I was in college.

I read the whole thing from cover to cover. The Declaration was its usual "America F-yeah! experience that I always remembered. But the Constitution was unfamiliar territory. That got amended, and that got amended, and wait a minute... WAIT A DAMNED MINUTE, it says right here that the government can't do things that aren't in the document, WTF?
That was the moment the Tea Party was born, in my mind. Probably 3-4 years before I actually joined in the raucous first-minute postings following Santelli's Speech Heard Round The World and began (as many others did) associating his message with a return to the Constitution as the best means of preventing such abuses.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 18, 2015 09:52 AM (HalrA)


Now YOU, Cato, are also one of my favorite converts! Thanks for the inspiration today. Fight on, Patriot!

Posted by: parteagirl at August 18, 2015 10:07 AM (K0jlM)

173 Completely agree, except that I don't place Israel
that high on the list. They're an ally and we should protect them and
fight with them more than Ukraine. Bombing Tehran would probably cause
an escalation, is that what you mean by the aluminum cloud? Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 09:59 AM


I view going all Charles Bronson on an enemy the same way I do the death penalty: it cuts recidivism down to zero.

We should have absolutely no expectation that Iran, under its current "leadership," will ever take its place among rational, cooperative nations. I don't believe any Muzzie country is capable of that.

Imagine, for example, what effect a well-aimed bomb or bullet sent off in Herr Schicklgruber's direction would have had on History.

As for Israel's placement on your list, I'm guessing I place it higher. But it is at least a democratic country that does not go around making war on everyone else who doesn't buy its religious act.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 18, 2015 10:08 AM (0atQl)

174 True, from what I understand. Could this be part of
the motivation for the trays of shit Moochelle is demanding be fed to
our kids in school?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2015 10:06 AM (2Ojst)

Almost certainly, in my opinion. These are the people enable the monsters that cut the beating hearts out of babies that might have lived. There's nothing they won't do to further their evil causes.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 18, 2015 10:08 AM (HalrA)

175 Kulaks, though a vast resource in today's America, are still a limited resource, and should be treated as such. I have a 19 point plan on how to effectively nationalize, control, maintain and share them out so all the deserving citizens can have a chance of a getting a taste of what it is like to have control.

With the hope of blood and the fear it will be theirs the proles will vote our way for 100 years.

Posted by: Social Justice Barrista at August 18, 2015 10:08 AM (3pRHP)

176 Any article in which Cruz is described as a political outsider pretty much self-beclowns. Remember, I like Cruz. But to claim he's a political outsider when the man's entire adult life (not to mention his entire middle school, junior high school and high school life) has been designed to get elected President is a bit asinine.

Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 18, 2015 10:09 AM (mf5HN)

177 @Very reluctant to suggest this, but isn't "Jobs Americans won't do" code for "jobs certain American communities won't do?" V the K

Or "Jobs Americans won't do for 10 bucks an hour"

(but Hajji will IF we lie on the forms - hell , call him a 'System Engineer')


Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 10:05 AM (HJqXj)


"jobs americans wont do" is racist code word for "only 3rd world peasants would enjoy such horrible work".

The thing is, no one enjoys manual labor, or cleaning out septic tanks or cleaning hotel rooms or whatever... but supply and demand means you can make more money doing that then say, flipping burgers at McDonalds.

Thus, people do it.

You need to realize that eugenics is still the foundation for much of progressive racial policy, even if they no longer acknowledge it or even believe in eugenics.

Thus their support for race-based abortions, constant racial "dog whistles", and constant racial strife.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:10 AM (AkOaV)

178
Do you honestly think Donald Trump is a sincere conservative?
Posted by: Donna



Do we care? Plenty of totes conservatives selling us out because of governing, or compassionate, or winning the next election or because someone is writing a check.

Might be useful to have someone in office who cares primarily about his popularity, as long as we're applauding the loudest.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 18, 2015 10:10 AM (kdS6q)

179 Caruso and pocket full of liberty are a joke. They spend their time attacking cruz now trump.


This has been soooooo clarifying. The usual suspects are going nuts over sessions immigration plan. Then we get to see what gop media is bought and paid for.



Most clarifying thing i've seen. Jay fucking caruso is attacking jeffrey lord's and mark levin's intelligence???


Ok slugger, whatever. Trust me. These fuckers would be ripping cruz etc. if trump wasn't blowing them away.

Posted by: Prescient11 at August 18, 2015 10:12 AM (VMZsK)

180 Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 18, 2015 10:09 AM (mf5HN)

One can be an outsider and still understand how the system works, and use that system for one's benefit.

I think Ted Cruz calling Mitch "The Turtle" McConnell a liar on the floor of the Senate establishes his bona fides as an outsider.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2015 10:12 AM (Zu3d9)

181 When did "Populists, Nativists, and Nationalists" get expelled from the Conservative Movement? Did I miss the vote?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 18, 2015 10:13 AM (evdj2)

182 The US DOL approved half a million jobs - 'highly, skilled, technical jobs' for H1b visas

500,000 jobs. While Americans are receiving unemployment checks or have just given up hope on jobs.

But definitely tell your kid to get into a STEM program and bust his ass so that he can compete with Hajji who will take the job at half the salary.

Cruz wants to increase H1bs. I have a problem with that.

Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 10:13 AM (HJqXj)

183 Posted by: Weirddave at August 18, 2015 10:02 AM (WvS3w)

you see your "buddy" had a twitter meltdown?....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 18, 2015 10:13 AM (0O7c5)

184 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 18, 2015 10:07 AM (HalrA)

It would be the most amazing, fabulous face on Mount Rushmore ever.

YUGE!

And Trump would make the Canadians pay for it.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:13 AM (AkOaV)

185 Jay Caruso appears to have the same affliction as Ace.

It seems democrat-turned-conservative writers have a preconceived idea of what a politician should look and act like, and anything outside of that mold is simply unacceptable.

Somehow during the conversion process, writers who become conservative form the belief that people who train to be politicians and who adopt a low keyed doublespeak language are magically endowed with a form of genius to come up with answers to problems.

This genius only occurs if the politician fits the writer's idea of what a politician looks and sounds like.

Add the wrong accent/tone or looks and suddenly the genius becomes a clown.

Jay Caruso seems to fall in the middle of the scale of this type of writer, with Ace more toward the bottom and closer to the people and Charles C.W. Cooke up at 11, as a totally insufferable twit.

It's their mission in life to save conservatives from false prophets like Trump and Palin, who would take the right off in embarrassing directions.

Nowhere in their calculations of true conservatives does the question of actually getting something done come up. If the ideology is right, it doesn't matter that nothing will change.

Posted by: jwest at August 18, 2015 10:14 AM (P/xrJ)

186 Posted by: MrScribbler at August 18, 2015 10:08 AM (0atQl)

Good points, but since Iraq where Iran was involved in supporting the insurgency, what should we bomb them over? I think economic sanctions seems more appropriate for Iran.

Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 10:14 AM (ioGjO)

187 The IT company Hilary Clinton chose to maintain her private email
account was run from a loft apartment and its servers were housed in the
bathroom closet, Daily Mail Online can reveal.

F'ng awesome. being CO, the servers were probably housed right next to the grow lights.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 18, 2015 10:14 AM (5buP8)

188 Go ahead and vet him, but do keep in mind that people sometimes do make
real changes too. A lot of our best people were once Democrats.


Yes, Cato, My first vote was cast for a 2 time Democrat Governor of California! : )

Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 10:15 AM (HJqXj)

189 Laurie david:


I have never seen such handwringing about conservative purity tests.


Are you fucking kidding me? Romney? And other conservatives in this race simply CANNOT win. It has been DESIGNED this way by gope.

Posted by: Prescient11 at August 18, 2015 10:15 AM (VMZsK)

190 Cruz wants to increase H1bs. I have a problem with that.
Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 10:13 AM (HJqXj)

Cruz is just another pol.

Like atc said, he's been running for president since he was 12. Which is beyond bizarre to me, personally, but whatever.

He's trying to focus group and poll his way in to finding a niche and a path to the nomination.

Nothing super against him, but I wouldn't have any real high hopes that a politician is going to fix / change anything.

Nor would I have high hopes that a blustering YUGGGEE wildly successful, incredibly smart businessman would do anything either.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:15 AM (AkOaV)

191 Do you honestly think Donald Trump is a sincere conservative?

I don't care what he thinks so long as he does what I need him to.

Serves my purposes, I back him. Cross me, I'm done with him.

As simple as that.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 18, 2015 10:16 AM (2l5vw)

192 Yes, Cato, My first vote was cast for a 2 time Democrat Governor of California! : )


Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 10:15 AM (HJqXj)
mine too

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 18, 2015 10:16 AM (0O7c5)

193 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 18, 2015 10:07 AM (HalrA)


It would be the most amazing, fabulous face on Mount Rushmore ever.


YUGE!


And Trump would make the Canadians pay for it
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:13 AM (AkOaV)

My issue with Trump isn't his policies or his past policies. I think he's bombastic and lack humility. I'd rather have someone more publicly reserved then him as President. I'll vote for him over Jeb and Rubio anyday though.

Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 10:16 AM (ioGjO)

194 Matt Welsh lives up to his name as far as providing valuable punditry.

Posted by: Punny at August 18, 2015 10:16 AM (rnH8X)

195 I think Ted Cruz calling Mitch "The Turtle"
McConnell a liar on the floor of the Senate establishes his bona fides
as an outsider.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2015 10:12 AM (Zu3d9)


Well, yeah. As the old political saw goes: "..out of the tent, pissing in..."

Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2015 10:16 AM (3pRHP)

196 As far as the Cop thing goes, I don't blame Ferguson, I blame Radley Balko and Company.

Seriously, I used to like Balko, but then Ferguson happened and I realized his critiques of the police may be accurate, but he has no plan on how to solve it besides the hopes, dreams and unicorn farts of "community policing."
Which seems to (based on his WaPo articles) mostly involve talking with people a lot.
His examples of how it works are all amazingly focused on the Occupooper movement and how well it works among the white trust fund hipster class.

I'm convinced we can't have a conversation about it anymore. I think we swing too far towards cop safety in some respects, but now we're going to swing back in the complete opposite direction.

Thanks dickwads.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 18, 2015 10:16 AM (tM4uk)

197 I think Ted Cruz calling Mitch "The Turtle"
McConnell a liar on the floor of the Senate establishes his bona fides
as an outsider. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2015 10:12 AM


It's all a matter of individual perception and who you're rooting for, isn't?

I saw this as Cruz jumping up and whining "Waaaaah! Mean ol' Mitch bamboozled me! He flummoxed and flim-flammed me! Mommy, make him STOP!"

So, to me, it is established his bona fides as a wannabe insider who hasn't yet polished his act enough to be fully accepted by the GOPe.

We are probably both partially right. I suspect you won't agree with that conclusion.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 18, 2015 10:17 AM (0atQl)

198 Or how about, "jobs Americans won't do for slave wages and no benefits while living with 30 other people in a 2-bedroom house."

Posted by: V the K at August 18, 2015 10:17 AM (O7MnT)

199 Do you honestly think Donald Trump is a sincere conservative?
Really?
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at August 18, 2015 10:06 AM (u0lmX)



I guess time will tell. I don't want someone who merely "identifies" as a conservative.

Here's what I see: I learned over the weekend that Trump consulted JEFF SESSIONS on his immigration policy! He seriously has my attention now.

As Rush said yesterday, "What good is conservatism if it doesn't stand up for what it believes in?"

Posted by: parteagirl at August 18, 2015 10:17 AM (K0jlM)

200 >>Also, does that mean she DIDN'T have full time secret service protection of her server? As in, it wasn't in Chappaqua, and that was another thing she lied about?

Hillary didn't turn over the server to them until 2013 - so the entire time she was using it as SoS it was (supposedly) at her Chappaqua house. Where she was not living, it was just Bill, the SS, and whomever Bill was entertaining there (IYNWIMAITYD) when he wasn't traveling the globe for his foundation. It's all sketchy.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 10:18 AM (NOIQH)

201 I think you might see some viral videos of women on their knees for trump like an ice bucket challenge.


People are boiling over this sjw shit.



We all saw what fox tried to do. And we are furious about it.


Thank God first time debater, and clown per nro, made the most vicious attack a laugh line. Yeah, i want that guy fighting the dems.

Posted by: Prescient11 at August 18, 2015 10:19 AM (VMZsK)

202 Nor would I have high hopes that a blustering YUGGGEE wildly successful, incredibly smart businessman would do anything either.

Posted by: mynewhandle


If anything I am in the LIB camp in the sense that "it is already burning and nothing will stop it" .

I do have kids and I am concerned for their future. I just want good intel on what is coming next. My days of going all in on some loudmouth with a campaign manager ended with W 's erratic terms.

Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 10:19 AM (HJqXj)

203 Nowhere in their calculations of true conservatives does the question of actually getting something done come up. If the ideology is right, it doesn't matter that nothing will change.

Posted by: jwest at August 18, 2015 10:14 AM (P/xrJ)

Right. And it's funny because ace (pbuh) wrote a fairly insightful post a few weeks back about class differences (ace, of course, claimed to be a man of no class) and yet he doesn't seem to realize his class prejudices make him look down on people like Palin or Trump because they do not use the right social indicators.

But most of the country does not use the "right social indicators" it's really a small group on the left coast, and a minority in the acela corridor.

Yet somehow every politician, journalist, and general "serious person" must take on the upper-middle-class-suburbs ethos and bland corporate personality combined with cheesy car salesmen's doublespeak and selling techniques.

...and they wonder why so many people hate politicians.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:19 AM (AkOaV)

204
191 Do you honestly think Donald Trump is a sincere conservative?

I don't care what he thinks so long as he does what I need him to.

Serves my purposes, I back him. Cross me, I'm done with him.

As simple as that.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 18, 2015 10:16 AM (2l5vw)




Careful. Rational thinking like being willing to ditch a candidate you like when they proceed to start shitting on your views will get you labeled as being wishywashy and just jumping from conservative "hero" to conservative "hero" by the "smart" set here.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 18, 2015 10:19 AM (z/Ubi)

205 "My administrator, Huma Abedin, assured me those servers were under Secret Service control at all times. She would like to be here to answer your questions directly. However, she is taking a break to consider leaving my campaign to work on her marriage."

Posted by: Hillary! Rotten Cliton at August 18, 2015 10:20 AM (5buP8)

206 Cruz is just another pol.


He's trying to focus group and poll his way in to finding a niche and a path to the nomination.



Nothing super against him, but I wouldn't have any real high hopes that a politician is going to fix / change anything.


Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:15 AM (AkOaV)

I didn't like how he announced from Liberty University. That's a signal that he's saying he's the social con candidate I think. I like him better than some, but the H1B visa stance baffles me.

Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 10:20 AM (ioGjO)

207 One can be an outsider and still understand how the system works, and use that system for one's benefit.

I think Ted Cruz calling Mitch "The Turtle" McConnell a liar on the floor of the Senate establishes his bona fides as an outsider.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2015 10:12 AM (Zu3d9)



The article in question lumps Cruz in with The Petulants which is described as "political outsiders whose inexperience and outrageous comments are selling points; Carson and Trump were leading examples, with Fiorina and Cruz sharing some aspects".

I'm sorry but one of those things is dramatically not like the others. As I said, I like Cruz, I do indeed. But he's not an outsider with inexperience. Rather the opposite indeed. The only characteristic that Cruz can potentially be claimed to share with that group is a penchant for outrageous comments. Then again, I don't consider calling McConnell a liar to be outrageous.

I should note that the next group is The Insurgents described as "outsiders inside the political system, like Rand Paul and Scott Walker, and to an extent Rick Perry and Bobby Jindal".

The author's own categories do not hold. After all, Rand Paul has said far more outrageous things than Cruz and Rand Paul has less actual political experience than Ted Cruz.

I found that article both tendentious and tedious and, frankly, intellectually incoherent. It was disappointing because there was the possibility of good analysis but, sadly, such possibility was not reached.

Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 18, 2015 10:20 AM (mf5HN)

208 miss lindsey is all bent out of shape about it....says it will ruin the republican party!!

I'd like someone to ask how it will ruin the party.

Hispanics will not vote for us? They already DON'T. And letting in more will only make that worse.

We won't have a slave class to exploit? Well, I'd say that's the worry of people who are ALREADY ruining the party, Lindsey.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 18, 2015 10:20 AM (oVJmc)

209 I'm convinced we can't have a conversation about it anymore. I think we swing too far towards cop safety in some respects, but now we're going to swing back in the complete opposite direction.

Thanks dickwads.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 18, 2015 10:16 AM (tM4uk)

Ferguson aside, the cops have not been doing themselves any favors in terms of public perception. People who used to cut cops a lot of slack are tired of having it blow up in their faces. On the other side, of course, are the Sharpton-esque race-bating assholes of the world who rush in to agitate, inflame and profit rather than try to solve problems. At this point, I say a plague on both their houses.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2015 10:20 AM (2Ojst)

210 Barack said right in the beginning we Americans " eat too much".
Posted by: steevy at August 18, 2015 09:41 AM (sPO3u)

To be fair he has to watch the wookie scarf everything down at the table every day.

Posted by: @votermom at August 18, 2015 10:21 AM (cbfNE)

211 200 >>Also, does that mean she DIDN'T have full time secret service protection of her server? As in, it wasn't in Chappaqua, and that was another thing she lied about?

Hillary didn't turn over the server to them until 2013 - so the entire time she was using it as SoS it was (supposedly) at her Chappaqua house. Where she was not living, it was just Bill, the SS, and whomever Bill was entertaining there (IYNWIMAITYD) when he wasn't traveling the globe for his foundation. It's all sketchy.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 10:18 AM (NOIQH)

Everything this malevolent harridan does is sketchy. The thought that she had access to signals and satellite intelligence (and probably put some of it on a private server) just gives me the dry heaves.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at August 18, 2015 10:21 AM (RD7QR)

212 182 some random meathead

Asked a academic chemist if he wanted his kids to go STEM. No way, too many H-1B.

It is not just the jobs themselves, it is the knowledge that goes with solving problems in the jobs.

We are is a perilous position without manufacturing. When I got out of school, Chemistry was #3 in exports for the USA.

Now we are a commodity exporting country.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 18, 2015 10:21 AM (u82oZ)

213 Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 10:19 AM (HJqXj)

Well, my depressing thought of the day:

what if it never "burns" and just kind of smolders and melts...?

As in, this is the "new normal" for the rest of our lives? Slowly eroding prosperity, shitty corrupt politicians, encroaching speech and thought police, etc. etc. with no end in sight?

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:21 AM (AkOaV)

214 Email update:

I am down to below 20,000.

Woo hoo!

Posted by: TickledPink at August 18, 2015 10:21 AM (RLFFI)

215 One has to wonder why the GOPe is so bent out of shape about why people are supporting a supposed progressive liberal (Trump) for President.

If this were august of next year, I could see them being upset but we've got months before the primary and a year before the nomination is secured. So what's the problem?

The problem is that they're favorite; Jebby with the back up band of Rubio and Kasich on stage is taking it in the shorts.

Forget why that is and how valid that position is, it's Trump they're concerned about because they can "fix" Jebs low numbers later but not if Trump keeps the lead and actually wins some primaries. That would be the death knell because then to get who they want as nominee, they'd have to cheat and steal and broker the convention a task fraught with pitfalls and exposure.

That's why the onslaught of critics, naysayers and outright insult comics telling us how bad and stupid we are for supporting Trump.

They try rational arguments (except ones that would work), they insult us they demonize Trump and try to claim he's a Trojan horse that will lead us to slaughter. But that's only if we vote for him in the primaries and those aren't here yet. So there must be some other driving reason why he must be thwarted NOW.

He's also causing the other candidates to enhance their positions on immigration and taking some other pages from his book and it's mostly been at the expense of the heir apparent Jebby.

If Jebby can't muster up some better numbers in the next 3 months, he just might be left at the gate come February. And he's doing better than his buddies so if he falls, so will they probably. And for the same reasons.

Then what moderate CoC obedient candidate can they try to foist on us then? (a la Romney)

I'm waiting for some Trumped up (heh) charges or scandals to start hitting harder and harder over the next 3 months.

They're desperate. And you know what they say about a cornered rat.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 18, 2015 10:22 AM (x3GpS)

216 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 18, 2015 10:10 AM (kdS6q)

So you are saying "So Trump will sell us out too, but so will the other candidates." That's true, but in that case why are people acting like Trump is the second coming?

I understand very well the anger and desire to stick it to the GOPe, but "I don't really care about his stance on Obamacare or abortion or the fact that he brags about his own crony capitalism - he makes Boehner and George Will mad and that's good enough for me!" - well, that's not good enough for me. The leftists are supposedly the emotion-driven voters, but Trump demonstrates that many conservatives are also permitting what feels good to trump (pardon me) basic logic.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at August 18, 2015 10:22 AM (u0lmX)

217 214
Email update:

I am down to below 20,000.

Woo hoo!


Posted by: TickledPink at August 18, 2015 10:21 AM (RLFFI)

hillary could help you

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 18, 2015 10:23 AM (0O7c5)

218 Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 10:18 AM (NOIQH)

Everything this malevolent harridan does is sketchy. The thought that she had access to signals and satellite intelligence (and probably put some of it on a private server) just gives me the dry heaves.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at August 18, 2015 10:21 AM (RD7QR)

I've run email servers, I still have a hard time believing Hillary just had a server plugged in to her Linksys router in her basement.

I mean, its possible.

But who was running the updates and patches? Who was remote monitoring the server?

Who was adding and removing and configuring and federating email accounts?

Hillary?

Or is that a hidden talent of Bills friend the Energizer Bunny?

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:23 AM (AkOaV)

219 Serves my purposes, I back him. Cross me, I'm done with him.

As simple as that.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 18, 2015 10:16 AM (2l5vw)

----

Yup. We'll give them same courtesy we all gave Boehner, McConnell, Paul Ryan or ERIC FUCKING CANTOR.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 18, 2015 10:24 AM (8XRCm)

220 Even more basic question:

Who was paying for the licensing for Server 2k12 and Exchange?

Like what name is on those licenses? And were they annual subscriptions or did they own the licenses outright?

The "server in Chappaqua'" just seems unlikely to me TBH

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:24 AM (AkOaV)

221 Here's a weird one I found in my inbox this morning, from Publishers Weekly:

Author of WITH CHARITY FOR ALL and former CEO of National Public Radio, Ken Stern's REPUBLICAN LIKE ME, an account of his personal journey as a bred-to-be-blue Democrat diving deep into the heart of conservatism, attending right wing conferences, spending time in red voting districts, tuning into conservative media, and talking to Republicans of all stripes, as part of his year-long experiment in political tolerance, to Adam Bellow at Harper, at auction, by Gillian MacKenzie at the Gillian MacKenzie Agency (world).

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 18, 2015 10:24 AM (2lndx)

222 The IT company Hilary Clinton chose to maintain her private email
account was run from a loft apartment and its servers were housed in the
bathroom closet, Daily Mail Online can reveal.

F'ng awesome. being CO, the servers were probably housed right next to the grow lights.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 18, 2015 10:14 AM (5buP



So. Which donor's kid's company was it?

Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 18, 2015 10:25 AM (mf5HN)

223 >>Do you honestly think Donald Trump is a sincere conservative? Really?

Is Jeb Bush a "sincere conservative?"
Is Jon Kasich a "sincere conservative?"
Is Mitch McConnell a "sincere conservative?"
Is John Crybaby Boehner a "sincere conservative?"
Is Marco Rubio a "sincere conservative?"
Is Carly Fiorina a "sincere conservative?"

It's a moot question.

You know who is a sincere conservative? Rick Santorum.

You all hate him.

Posted by: V the K at August 18, 2015 10:25 AM (O7MnT)

224 218 Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 10:18 AM (NOIQH)

Everything this malevolent harridan does is sketchy. The thought that she had access to signals and satellite intelligence (and probably put some of it on a private server) just gives me the dry heaves.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at August 18, 2015 10:21 AM (RD7QR)

I've run email servers, I still have a hard time believing Hillary just had a server plugged in to her Linksys router in her basement.

I mean, its possible.

But who was running the updates and patches? Who was remote monitoring the server?

Who was adding and removing and configuring and federating email accounts?

Hillary?

Or is that a hidden talent of Bills friend the Energizer Bunny?
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:23 AM (AkOaV)

Which means there's an admin out there just waiting to be subpoenaed...

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at August 18, 2015 10:25 AM (RD7QR)

225 If Hilly erased her server, that would also include records of who accessed it and when. Including cronies like Blumenthal, or hackers like the Chinese.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 18, 2015 10:25 AM (oVJmc)

226 Do you honestly think Donald Trump is a sincere conservative? Really?


I'm severely conservative!

Posted by: Mitt Romney at August 18, 2015 10:26 AM (2Ojst)

227 And hopefully alexthechick will not be bothered if I partially repost this pitch perfect summary from yesterday:


...


I think it will play quite well indeed. Why? Because people are
sick of being told it's racist to be angry when those who come to this
country refuse to learn any English at all and then those people get mad
at US citizens for not knowing Spanish.



Because the H1B visa matter is a middle to upper middle class issue
for people (men) who played by the rules and got the STEM degree and
gave up being home with the family to get ahead only to have to train
their own replacements who do the job for half the pay and a tenth of
the competence.



Because parents (mothers) know all about how Mexican Polio is in our schools.



There's a very large undercurrent of hey I am upset about this and
I'm sick of being told that I just have to put up with not being able to
go to WalMart on Saturday if I don't want to feel like I've been
dropped in the middle of South America.



Again, that's just a wag, so I will try not to be overly emotionally
invested when all y'all attempt to contradict me and prove how wrong
you are.

...


How the hell has a candidate not snatched you up as a campaign advisor yet?

Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 10:26 AM (HJqXj)

228 At any rate, if Trump can inspire any of the other GOP candidates to take a good look at the frustration the base is feeling and address that rather than ignore it, then I'm glad he's in the mix. I really don't want to battle with other members of the Horde over Trump, although I think he's the wrong person to pin conservative hopes to.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at August 18, 2015 10:26 AM (u0lmX)

229 I don't care what he thinks so long as he does what I need him to.


Serves my purposes, I back him. Cross me, I'm done with him.


As simple as that.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 18, 2015 10:16 AM (2l5vw)

I like Milton Freidman's line that we need to make responsible leadership politically profitable. Many of the candidates have shown that they don't care to be responsible in leadership. Trump and Fiorina haven't been in power and their lack of a record is a good thing right now.

Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 10:26 AM (ioGjO)

230 How do you know who pulled the post? I sure don't. You're assuming it was a cob but not Ace. Based on what?

As
for free speech? This site is owned by Ace. He or his agents decide how
it's run. It is not a free speech issue since as far as I can tell no
government agent was involved in the decision.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
============
Hmm.

That's not what I said at all; nothing about free speech or the 1st Amend.

I don't care who pulled it or why but I am interested in discussing the contents.

If I had to guess why, maybe it was pulled because someone thought we've had too many "hey GOPe: Listen the f up! Here's why people are supporting Trump" articles, posts and comments.

IDK.

Not my blog. I just know, if you want clicks, go where the crowd is or draw a crowd.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 18, 2015 10:26 AM (ZvKdv)

231 >>Or how about, "jobs Americans won't do for slave wages and no benefits while living with 30 other people in a 2-bedroom house."

I think part of the problem is that minimum wage can't compete with what one can "earn" via the various entitlements - welfare, snap, obamaphones, etc.. I don't think the solution is to raise minimum wage.
Another problem is that most minimum wage jobs are transitional jobs - the first job one gets that can lead to promotions that pay more. If you're not willing to start at the bottom (which in some cases is necessary if you're education and work experience is lacking) then you will miss out on opportunities to succeed, be promoted, become a better candidate for a better job elsewhere, etc.
It seems it not just a wage issue, it's a cultural issue where some people are no longer willing to take that first step, maybe because of their attitude or competing factors like entitlements.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 10:26 AM (NOIQH)

232 As Rush said yesterday, "What good is conservatism if it doesn't stand up for what it believes in?"

Posted by: parteagirl at August 18, 2015 10:17 AM (K0jlM)

At the risk of alienating myself, I'm going to say something daring. Maybe we need to ditch the Conservative label. It's not who we are. While we do stand for traditional values, we do not stand for traditional politics or policies. We don't fit the traditional "wing" spectrum. Let's stop letting long-dead French movements define us. We're still radicals, we're still in our hearts the same revolutionaries who gave birth to the most successful and dynamic nation in history.
As Ronald Reagan himself said, our idea is the newest in all of man's relation to man, that people could govern themselves without an elite making all of their choices for them. The other side? It's offering the same old thing that's been packaged under a million different brands, a central elite with all of the power, making all of the decisions for everybody else.
They're the Conservatives, not us. And it is the fate of the conservative to be dragged kicking and screaming into a future they don't want. The Left/Right dynamic in this country is a horrible injustice of mislabeling. We're Classical Liberals, we haven't changed and neither have they, just as 1/3 of the USA considered themselves loyal Tories after the Revolution, they're still Monarchists, they just believe that the crown should be on their heads instead of some distant King's.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 18, 2015 10:26 AM (HalrA)

233 I announce special offer for all of our leader Mr Trump's friends.



We have discovered a huge, $10 Billion airbag that can be inflated and sold to people around the world for many many times the value of the air bag.



The only problem is the air bag is trapped by a government agency and can only be used if we can deposit funds into the agency's bank account.



So dear friend, I ask you to send us your bank information, we will deposit the funds in your account, you only need to send us a small deposit to secure your money. Please to be contacting me immediately.



Your Humble Servant, The Prince.

Posted by: Royal Nigerian Prince Fullofshit, IV at August 18, 2015 10:26 AM (0FSuD)

234 Re: Miss Lindsey,

obligatory

http://bit.ly/1NeXD3h

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at August 18, 2015 10:27 AM (JtwS4)

235 Anyone notice Trump and Hillary BOTH seem to have a date w/a Trotsky-like demise in the near future?

Posted by: Hillary! Rotten Cliton at August 18, 2015 10:27 AM (5buP8)

236 Yup. We'll give them same courtesy we all gave Boehner, McConnell, Paul Ryan or ERIC FUCKING CANTOR.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 18, 2015 10:24 AM (8XRCm)

Agreed, fuck Paul Ryan that traitor who told us we had to pass that stoopid trade bill to find out what is in it.

Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 10:27 AM (ioGjO)

237
Do you honestly think Donald Trump is a sincere conservative? Really?

I'm severely conservative!
Posted by: Mitt Romney




Some would say the most conservative candidate that can get elected.

Posted by: Mitt "Second Place? That's Good!" Romney

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 18, 2015 10:28 AM (kdS6q)

238 Matt Welch; doing the job a self respecting journalist wouldn't do.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 18, 2015 10:28 AM (x3GpS)

239 It seems it not just a wage issue, it's a cultural
issue where some people are no longer willing to take that first step,
maybe because of their attitude or competing factors like entitlements.

Posted by: Lizzy


Cut off the flow of external "cheap labor" from foreign countries and watch the labor market work.

Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 10:28 AM (HJqXj)

240 I didn't like how he announced from Liberty University. That's a signal that he's saying he's the social con candidate I think. I like him better than some, but the H1B visa stance baffles me.
Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 10:20 AM (ioGjO)

I don't have a problem with that... I think he felt he had to throw a bone to the socons and shore up their support. The fact that he announced at Liberty almost makes me feel like he was worried he'd be the "tea party" or "fiscal conservative" or whatever candidate, and he wanted to make sure the socons didn't forget about him.

I don't know though.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:28 AM (AkOaV)

241 Posted by: Mitt Romney at August 18, 2015 10:26 AM (2Ojst)

Right. But whether Romney is or is not "severely conservative" has no bearing on Trump's beliefs or lack thereof.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at August 18, 2015 10:29 AM (u0lmX)

242 You know who is a sincere conservative? Rick Santorum.


You all hate him.
Posted by: V the K at August 18, 2015 10:25 AM (O7MnT)

Now that you mention him, I don't really know him too well.

Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 10:29 AM (ioGjO)

243 Here's a weird one I found in my inbox this morning, from Publishers Weekly:

Author of WITH CHARITY FOR ALL and former CEO of National Public Radio, Ken Stern's REPUBLICAN LIKE ME, an account of his personal journey as a bred-to-be-blue Democrat diving deep into the heart of conservatism, attending right wing conferences, spending time in red voting districts, tuning into conservative media, and talking to Republicans of all stripes, as part of his year-long experiment in political tolerance, to Adam Bellow at Harper, at auction, by Gillian MacKenzie at the Gillian MacKenzie Agency (world).
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 18, 2015 10:24 AM (2lndx)



*frantically clicks on links at bottom of Iowahawk's Heart of Redness*

THIS TIME THERE WILL BE MORE! THERE WILL!

*frantically clicks more*


(If you haven't read it, shame on you - http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2010/02/heart-of-redness.html )

By the insanity of cthulhu, seriously, I am doing all the wrong things with my life.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go pitch my book on my mumblety year performance art project as a Fifth Wave Intersectional Feminist masquerading as a libertarian.

Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 18, 2015 10:29 AM (mf5HN)

244 235 Anyone notice Trump and Hillary BOTH seem to have a date w/a Trotsky-like demise in the near future?
Posted by: Hillary! Rotten Cliton at August 18, 2015 10:27 AM (5buP

Trump's head-weasel would bite anybody who tried to put a pickaxe in his noggin. Hillary has Secret Service protection. I don't want them dead, I want them to get TV shows and go away.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at August 18, 2015 10:29 AM (RD7QR)

245 Good articles in the news dump this morning.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 18, 2015 10:29 AM (ry4ab)

246 The enemy is that fuck in the White House and his allies. Everyone else is a side show.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2015 10:30 AM (gf8BH)

247 All i have to say is that if you're concerned about trump's purity, just wait til Carly is vetted. Hahahahahahah.



The irony, it burns. Hint, she's a yuuuuuuuge hilllary fan and she doesn't own billions in real estate in nyc.

Posted by: Prescient11 at August 18, 2015 10:30 AM (VMZsK)

248 Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 18, 2015 10:20 AM (mf5HN)

I'm not defending the Reason article. More and more they seem like a High School political club.

But Cruz certainly is an outsider. Perhaps "anti-establishment" is a better term? That's one of the big reasons I am willing to entertain the notion of a President Cruz.

Admit it....everyone would like this in the White House:

http://tinyurl.com/o84o3pp
NSFW

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2015 10:30 AM (Zu3d9)

249 Yup. We'll give them same courtesy we all gave Boehner, McConnell, Paul Ryan or ERIC FUCKING CANTOR.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 18, 2015 10:24 AM


All of whom, IMO, got too much courtesy.

Our Betters among the self-important "conservative" bloggers should have been digging into each of them with the same zeal they now apply to researching all of teh Donald's "gaffes."

Perhaps there was a clue to0 be found that would have let people know they were nothing more than hookers looking for the right "John."

There's a list of people I can point to when trying to explain why my Party Allegiance Meter is forever pegged at Zero. These dolts are on the list.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 18, 2015 10:30 AM (0atQl)

250 Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2015 10:20 AM (2Ojst)

I said a plague on both their houses too, then I needed someone riding old fashioned shot gun to pick up my wife from the airport in case the rioting moved a few miles down the road.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 18, 2015 10:30 AM (tM4uk)

251 >>Cut off the flow of external "cheap labor" from foreign countries and watch the labor market work.

Yep. I recall years ago when INS/ICE raided several poultry processing plants in the mid-Altantic. Those jobs were quickly filled with citizens.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 10:31 AM (NOIQH)

252 Eww. I was rickrolled to Reason.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 18, 2015 10:31 AM (evdj2)

253 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 18, 2015 10:26 AM (HalrA)

Yeah, I've wanted to ditch the left / right thing a lonnng time ago.

It's way too simplistic, and allows the media to brand us as "right wing reactionaries" when in reality we're the revolutionaries. Free markets and self governance is the most revolutionary idea in the history of political and economic theory and yet we're "conservatives" and the statists who want a big, all encompassing government (a flavor of the big all encompassing governments that have always existed since civilization crawled out of the tigris and euphratis rivers) are the "liberals" and "progressives"?

C'mon now.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:31 AM (AkOaV)

254 I don't want them dead, I want them to get TV shows and go away.
I wasn't saying I want, or think, either one will be killed. Just that their ambitions will be ended by their own side.

Posted by: Hillary! Rotten Cliton at August 18, 2015 10:32 AM (5buP8)

255 Trump is resonation due to his defence of white America against the Cosmopolitan elites. The silent majority of whites has awaken and we will take our back.

Posted by: Go Trump! at August 18, 2015 10:32 AM (PegkE)

256 I know many of our great leader Trump's friend looking for investment opportunities, so I give you list of letters from many of dear leader's friends who need assistance.




http://tinyurl.com/d4pbv

Posted by: Royal Nigerian Prince Fullofshit, IV at August 18, 2015 10:32 AM (0FSuD)

257
Author of WITH CHARITY FOR ALL and former CEO of National Public Radio, Ken Stern's REPUBLICAN LIKE ME, an account of his personal journey as a bred-to-be-blue Democrat diving deep into the heart of conservatism, attending right wing conferences, spending time in red voting districts, tuning into conservative media, and talking to Republicans of all stripes, as part of his year-long experiment in political tolerance, to Adam Bellow at Harper, at auction, by Gillian MacKenzie at the Gillian MacKenzie Agency (world).

-
A Safari Into the Wasteland.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 18, 2015 10:32 AM (XUKZU)

258 I said a plague on both their houses too, then I needed someone riding old fashioned shot gun to pick up my wife from the airport in case the rioting moved a few miles down the road.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 18, 2015 10:30 AM (tM4uk)

So did someone ride shotgun with you?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2015 10:33 AM (2Ojst)

259

**fuck**


Good Morning Hector.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 18, 2015 10:33 AM (8XRCm)

260 >>All i have to say is that if you're concerned about trump's purity, just wait til Carly is vetted. Hahahahahahah.

The ease with which Trumpy and Carly flipped from moderate Democrat to "severe" conservative should give you pause about the lot of them.

Posted by: V the K at August 18, 2015 10:34 AM (O7MnT)

261 I think Trump is a larger than life figure. And he's a prototypical "Ametica, f- yeah!" symbol.
People are responding to that.

The vitriol from supporters of other candidates is in part because tgey realize that their candidate simply can't compete with "mystique." In a way it's unfair. That makes yhem bitter.

What anti-Trumpers should understand is that people think asking Trump to be forced out is also unfair. Why should he be forced out just because he's yuuuge? Attacking him rather thsn letting the voters decide will just push more people to support him.

Posted by: @votermom at August 18, 2015 10:34 AM (cbfNE)

262 247
All i have to say is that if you're concerned about trump's purity, just wait til Carly is vetted. Hahahahahahah.







The irony, it burns. Hint, she's a yuuuuuuuge hilllary fan and she doesn't own billions in real estate in nyc.

Posted by: Prescient11 at August 18, 2015 10:30 AM (VMZsK)

See this hit piece in NY Slime today.

http://tinyurl.com/p45lxj7

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 18, 2015 10:34 AM (0FSuD)

263 I agree that "jobs American's won't do" is a lot of times code for jobs that people will pay cash under the table for that is much cheaper than when procured through legitimate business. That cheap nanny from South America, that friendly guy who cuts the lawn with some of his, er, family(?) that is happy to do it for cash, no forms, tax filings, paid vacations, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 10:34 AM (NOIQH)

264 242 You know who is a sincere conservative? Rick Santorum.


You all hate him.
Posted by: V the K at August 18, 2015 10:25 AM (O7MnT)

Now that you mention him, I don't really know him too well.
Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 10:29 AM (ioGjO)

Okay, I've developed a "Santorum system".

Google "Santorum online gambling" for all you need to know about Santorum and his views on the role of government.

I could make this a huge, long post about why specifically Santorum sucks, but that one quote of his sums it all up pretty well.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:34 AM (AkOaV)

265 If Jeb and rest of the dwarfs can't beat Trump, that's THEIR fault.

Posted by: Lurking In The Wilderness at August 18, 2015 10:35 AM (1Y+hH)

266 michelle bachman hates carly.....the knives are out

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 18, 2015 10:35 AM (0O7c5)

267 Posted by: RoyalOil at August 18, 2015 10:26 AM (ZvKdv)

I see now...you pasted someone else's comment.

My comment is directed at them.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2015 10:35 AM (Zu3d9)

268 Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 18, 2015 10:29 AM (mf5HN)

First off: they see nothing wrong at all with "bred to be blue?"
Quite literally not thinking for themselves it's all just received beliefs.

Secondly, we are quite literally an anthropology experiment to them now. Like Getz going to the cockfight.
Amazing, they consider us to be effectively a foreign culture.
As much as I hate leftists I don't consider them a foreign fucking culture.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 18, 2015 10:35 AM (tM4uk)

269 >>A Safari Into the Wasteland.

Life imitates an Iowahawk series.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 10:35 AM (NOIQH)

270 265
If Jeb and rest of the dwarfs can't beat Trump, that's THEIR fault.





Posted by: Lurking In The Wilderness at August 18, 2015 10:35 AM (1Y+hH)

^^^^THIS^^^^

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 18, 2015 10:35 AM (0O7c5)

271 Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 10:26 AM (HJqXj)


I would like it duly noted for the record that I did that without any of the swears.

Because I'm a delicate fucking flower.

Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 18, 2015 10:35 AM (mf5HN)

272 Here's the Santorum quote I was referring to:
http://tinyurl.com/negvlnh

video is available online, too, if you're curious.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:36 AM (AkOaV)

273
Joe's Law: Trolls believe none of the things they post.

Joe's Corollary: Your disgust is their oxygen.

Joe's Conjecture: All trolls are Average Joe

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 18, 2015 10:36 AM (evdj2)

274 atc

you done good

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 18, 2015 10:36 AM (0O7c5)

275 You know who is a sincere conservative? Rick Santorum.

Bullshit. He's a traditionalist. He's no conservative.

Remember, all politicians are contract workers.

It's time we started letting those contracts expire.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 18, 2015 10:37 AM (2l5vw)

276 Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:31 AM (AkOaV)


Exactly. Words have meanings, and baggage. We need to reclaim our labels and start being who we are. Maybe we should start calling our movement the Independence movement, instead of the Conservatives. It's who we are. We want to be free of rulership, period. Our government is supposed to serve us, not the other way around!

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 18, 2015 10:37 AM (HalrA)

277 I can remember when blogs spending a disproportinate amount of time critizing the Republican front runner instead of Democrats was a bad thing.

But we grow, we change.





Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 18, 2015 09:30 AM (kdS6q)


Isn't that something?

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at August 18, 2015 10:37 AM (7eQGn)

278 I would like it duly noted for the record that I did that without any of the swears.

Because I'm a delicate fucking flower.


It may also have been because I used most of them during my Bentley/Kasich rant yesterday.

It's been like that lately.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 18, 2015 10:38 AM (2l5vw)

279 277
I can remember when blogs spending a disproportinate amount of time
critizing the Republican front runner instead of Democrats was a bad
thing.



But we grow, we change.











Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 18, 2015 09:30 AM (kdS6q)





Isn't that something?

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at August 18, 2015 10:37 AM (7eQGn)

it's why we can't have nice things

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 18, 2015 10:38 AM (0O7c5)

280 213 what if it never "burns" and just kind of smolders and melts...?As in, this is the "new normal" for the rest of our lives? Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:21 AM (AkOaV)

I've started wondering that. An economic slow roll into crony capitalism/fascism with most people on welfare with free cable voting for uniparty politicians might happen, except...

The US isn't a closed system, and I think the global economy isn't far from serious problems. If it crosses the tipping point, the BEST outcome would be the Greater Depression, which would probably be accompanied by real vilolence this time, and the worst is a Mad Max/Walking Dead/cannibalistic post-apocalyptic horror.

Posted by: Mr. Optimistic at August 18, 2015 10:38 AM (ueOgE)

281 Trump will restore white Americans to our rightful place of power. Welfare should benefit good white folks. The government should guarantee good jobs for our people Trump is the only openly pro White candidate.

Posted by: Go Trump! at August 18, 2015 10:38 AM (PegkE)

282 I try to hold the profanity down because it helps to increase the "tone" around here.

Cause a lot of you guys are, get this, fcuking potty mouths.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 18, 2015 10:39 AM (x3GpS)

283 Joe's Corollary: Your disgust is their oxygen.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says smother them at August 18, 2015 10:39 AM (evdj2)

284 First off: they see nothing wrong at all with "bred to be blue?"
Quite literally not thinking for themselves it's all just received beliefs.

Secondly, we are quite literally an anthropology experiment to them now. Like Getz going to the cockfight.
Amazing, they consider us to be effectively a foreign culture.
As much as I hate leftists I don't consider them a foreign fucking culture.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 18, 2015 10:35 AM (tM4uk)



I didn't start using Unpeople of Jesusland just because.


There are far too many portions of the Left that do, quite seriously, believe that anyone on the Right is a lesser being, not to mention not actually human.


Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 18, 2015 10:39 AM (mf5HN)

285 Posted by: Go Trump! at August 18, 2015 10:38 AM (PegkE)

that's why those black youtube sisters love him.....right?.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 18, 2015 10:39 AM (0O7c5)

286 @272

Scratch a "religious" conservative, aka San and Huck, and you usually find a Nazi waiting to tell you what to read, etc.



No Thanks.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 18, 2015 10:40 AM (0FSuD)

287 The ease with which Trumpy and Carly flipped from moderate Democrat to "severe" conservative should give you pause about the lot of them.

Do we have any sources for Carly flipping?

In the podcast she says she was raised conservative and got to understand why when she started out in business.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at August 18, 2015 10:40 AM (JtwS4)

288 263
I agree that "jobs American's won't do" is a lot of times code for jobs
that people will pay cash under the table for that is much cheaper than
when procured through legitimate business. That cheap nanny from South
America, that friendly guy who cuts the lawn with some of his, er,
family(?) that is happy to do it for cash, no forms, tax filings, paid
vacations, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 10:34 AM (NOIQH)

The ultimate job real Americans won't do that the Democrats want them for? Voting Democrat.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 18, 2015 10:40 AM (HalrA)

289
How about the "I Can Take Care of Myself & So Can You, So Leave Us the FUCK Alone" Party ??????



"... BTW ..... Ive totatally abandoned the notion of trying to curb my profanity.... Mrs Fixer is just going to have to suck it up."

Posted by: fixerupper at August 18, 2015 10:40 AM (8XRCm)

290 The GOP can't bring itself to examine why very few people are buying what it is selling. Until it makes that leap, it's dead in the water.

Posted by: Lurking In The Wilderness at August 18, 2015 10:40 AM (1Y+hH)

291 Hillary TV show concept:

THROAT PUNCHES AND DOLLARS WITH HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON

Hillary sits around on a set and talks guests like Rosie O'Donnell and the bull dyke from 4 Non Blondes about graft, mediocre speeches, and kicking men in the balls for fun and profit.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at August 18, 2015 10:40 AM (RD7QR)

292 what force will arise to compel

Ahem.

Posted by: Math at August 18, 2015 10:40 AM (DL2i+)

293 Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 10:34 AM (NOIQH)

No, i think it's truly the case that upper middle class white progressives in their gated communities can't ever imagine them or their kids picking fruit or cleaning septic tanks or insulating attics or mowing yards, and that it's an underlying racial / class thing.

If I were a Mexican national working in the US, I'd be beyond offended that people thought I was doing a "job that Americans won't do", because they must think I'm an inferior person if I'm willing to collect garbage, but their little snowflakes would rather die then ever do anything as demeaning as manual labor.

I think there is a large cohort of people who think that way and mindlessly repeat "jobs americans wont do" and it makes sense to them because they think mexican/central american / south american people are racially inferior and thus more willing to do the dirty work.

Eugenics never died out in the progressive movement. They just couch it in euphemism and vague newspeak terms now.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:41 AM (AkOaV)

294 If that NPR fellow really wanted to understand conservatives he could have done two things:

A. Listen to Rush Limbaugh daily (even an hour a day over time would work). Even if you don't agree with him, a lot of what he says makes sense, and damn does he do his homework.

B. Read the bible - the whole thing.
I've read several conservative conversion stories where all it took was reading the bible to clear away all the crap they've heard about religion, and religious-based conservative values from the media, academia, etc. Prof. Mike Adams is a perfect example of this..

Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 10:41 AM (NOIQH)

295 And the StormFront troll has appeared.

That or Kilgore Trout.

How you doin' Kilgore?

Talked to ponytail boy lately?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 18, 2015 10:41 AM (x3GpS)

296 If only we had someone with TB3K rights on duty early in the AM.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 18, 2015 10:41 AM (oVJmc)

297 So did someone ride shotgun with you?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2015 10:33 AM (2Ojst)


Honestly I don't remember.

Guns aren't allowed at the airport of course so I couldn't bring mine even if I wanted to.

That being said, a friend of mine who worked closer to the mess than the airport started putting a pistol in his glovebox until his work banned any guns in the parking lot.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 18, 2015 10:41 AM (tM4uk)

298 I would like it duly noted for the record that I did that without any of the swears.

Well I was impressed, swears or no.


Also Nood Art.

Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 10:41 AM (HJqXj)

299 181
When did "Populists, Nativists, and Nationalists" get expelled from the Conservative Movement? Did I miss the vote?
============
More and more the GOP "Big Tent" looks like "Only Democrats Need Apply."

Seriously.

Name one fucking outreach plan the GOP has come up with in the last 15 years that wouldn't fit word for word on the planks of the Democrat Party.

Reach out to the Hispanics.
Reach out to the gays.
Reach out to the teachers unions. (NCLB)
Reach out to government-dependent retirees. (Med part D)

And on and on.

But they'll talk a big fucking game about the middle class.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 18, 2015 10:41 AM (ZvKdv)

300 It seems to me that many of these interchangeable "right wing" pundits have something in common; the Gabe Malor worldview where SSM>Christianity.

Posted by: artemis at August 18, 2015 10:42 AM (AwPyG)

301 Sefton brings a nice comment to the Caruso article.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 18, 2015 10:42 AM (oVJmc)

302 Good Morning Hector.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 18, 2015 10:33 AM (8XRCm)

I think he has multiplied in to a hundred Trump trolls.
Let's start calling them the TT's

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 18, 2015 10:43 AM (0FSuD)

303 That being said, a friend of mine who worked closer to the mess than the airport started putting a pistol in his glovebox until his work banned any guns in the parking lot.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 18, 2015 10:41 AM (tM4uk)

That's what I would have done. I probably would have continued despite the ban.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2015 10:43 AM (2Ojst)

304 Google "Santorum online gambling" for all you need to know about Santorum and his views on the role of government.


I could make this a huge, long post about why specifically Santorum sucks, but that one quote of his sums it all up pretty well.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:34 AM (AkOaV)

Reminds me, I'm pro lottery now. Fuck the LIV voters. Tax their dumb balls off.

Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 10:43 AM (ioGjO)

305 >>I think there is a large cohort of people who think that way and mindlessly repeat "jobs americans wont do" and it makes sense to them because they think mexican/central american / south american people are racially inferior and thus more willing to do the dirty work.


Excellent point. The soft (or not so soft) bigotry of low expectations.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 10:43 AM (NOIQH)

306 >bred-to-be-blue Democrat

Intrauterine estrogen injections, I guess.

Posted by: Agent J at August 18, 2015 10:43 AM (ueOgE)

307 If that NPR fellow really wanted to understand conservatives he could have done two things:
A. Listen to Rush Limbaugh daily
B. Read the bible - the whole thing.


Sounds like too much effort. Can you give me that Twitter version?

Posted by: NPR Fellow at August 18, 2015 10:44 AM (O7MnT)

308 285 phoenixgirl

Trump will throw blacks some scaps to keep them quit. But their days of bullying whites are over. We are stuck with the blacks sasly because we were too lazy to pick our cotton.

The real enemies of white America are the invaders from the south, the yellow people and dot heads. These groups are stealing our jobs and marrying our offsprings. We must preserve the white race in America.

Posted by: Go Trump! at August 18, 2015 10:45 AM (PegkE)

309 Nip sip, what's the headline? Can't clickcnp on ipad.


Thanks

Posted by: Prescient11 at August 18, 2015 10:45 AM (VMZsK)

310 Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 18, 2015 10:39 AM (mf5HN

Frankly I can handle being an unperson. That's just another day in the academy.
(Oh BTW, the rumor of our random investigation is that it was basically a distraught recent graduate who decided that filing a complaint might bring "closure" So basically revenge.)

Anyway, "unperson" is a state of being for me. Experiment not so much.

Reminds me of my med school application days. You score high enough on the MCAT people interview you just to see what you look like with no intention of accepting you.
My undergraduate institution did that, and later admitted to me that was the only reason they interviewed me.
Since I knew I was done anyway I scoffed at the vice dean "you didn't have to make me put on a suit to look at me, if you wanted to study me, you could have just told me that and I'd have taken the shuttle over so you could gawk without the whole interview process."

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 18, 2015 10:45 AM (tM4uk)

311 There are far too many portions of the Left that do, quite seriously, believe that anyone on the Right is a lesser being, not to mention not actually human.


Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 18, 2015 10:39 AM (mf5HN)

On the rare occasion where I've argued politics with the crazy liberals who (used to, not so much since I moved) surround me, I've routinely had my intelligence questioned instead of any response to anything I said.

"I think history proves that lower tax rates lead to greater prosperity..."
"Are you really that stupid, or has Rush Limbaugh just been brainwashing you?!?!? You can't possibly believe those mouth breathing tea baggers on TV can you? Man, I thought you were smarter than that! You really need to educate yourself and stop being so ignorant"

Totally unproductive. And being lectured on intelligence by absolute idiots just makes me want to give them the finger and walk away.

So I don't argue politics too often.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:45 AM (AkOaV)

312 "I think there is a large cohort of people who think that way and mindlessly repeat "jobs americans wont do" "



How did those jobs get accomplished prior to 1990?

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at August 18, 2015 10:45 AM (7eQGn)

313 Posted by: Nip Sip at August 18, 2015 10:40 AM (0FSuD)

We've heard this for a long time.

And yet it's the liberals who shut down speech.

It's the Muslims that crucify gays and rapes women.

Not too many Christians goose stepping around the world that I can see.

No mass executions of Muslims by Christians.

No fines and threats of jail for same sex married couples by Christians.

Funny that.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 18, 2015 10:46 AM (x3GpS)

314 >>Sounds like too much effort. Can you give me that Twitter version?


Heh, you've just summarized the difference between conservatives and progressives, cupcake!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 10:46 AM (NOIQH)

315 Reminds me, I'm pro lottery now. Fuck the LIV voters. Tax their dumb balls off.


Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 10:43 AM (ioGjO)

Well, I share your sentiment, the problem is the revenue feeds the beast. The more cash they have, from what ever source, the more government programs they start.

Posted by: Nip Sip at August 18, 2015 10:46 AM (0FSuD)

316 Sounds like too much effort. Can you give me that Twitter version?

Posted by: NPR Fellow at August 18, 2015 10:44 AM (O7MnT)
1. Love God2. Love your neighbor as yourself

Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 10:47 AM (ioGjO)

317 Moby at 308.

Repeat, we have a Moby at 308.

Posted by: mynewhandle, doing a PSA at August 18, 2015 10:47 AM (AkOaV)

318 Nice. The corpse of the drowning victim makes me sad though.

Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 10:47 AM (HJqXj)

319 307 Sounds like too much effort. Can you give me that Twitter version?
Posted by: NPR Fellow at August 18, 2015 10:44 AM (O7MnT)

(Counts characters on fingers)
Pull your head outta your butt
(Hits Post)

Posted by: Agent J at August 18, 2015 10:47 AM (ueOgE)

320 How did those jobs get accomplished prior to 1990?
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at August 18, 2015 10:45 AM (7eQGn)

That's like, ancient history man.

And it also requires thinking. Liberal talking points don't have room for thinking and extrapolation.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:48 AM (AkOaV)

321 I've gone Fox Mulder on the GOP; I trust no one.

Posted by: V the K at August 18, 2015 10:48 AM (O7MnT)

322 damn, wrong thread.

Hey guys.


Artay Eadthray Upay

Posted by: some random meathead at August 18, 2015 10:48 AM (HJqXj)

323 One of my teachers (who was a good teacher because I had no idea what his political beliefs were - he was that even-handed) explained the difference between conservative and reaction by saying that conservatives are not anti-change - they are anti-rapid, sweeping, revolutionary changes(because with the pretty big exceptions of the American revolution and the Velvet Revolution that peacefully separated the Czechs and the Slovaks, most revolutions end in terror and tears.)

Conservatives is not to be confused with reactionaries. The 19th century Luddites and present day environmentalists are good examples of reactionaries, although the bunny-huggers call themselves progressives. They want to return humankind to pre-Industrial Revolution days.


I'm comfortable being categorized as a conservative. The ones who are misnamed are the illiberal liberals, the progressives who are actually reactionaries - bitterly clinging to discredited Marxist-Leninist theories.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at August 18, 2015 10:49 AM (u0lmX)

324 DC Whispers, the site that has predicted so much of what is going on, has shown that Trump's appeal to minorities is beyond what anyone has seen.



Trump is literally doing what gope has bitched about, appealing to minorities. So, instead of being some type of white power candidate, trump is appealing to blacks and latinos miles ahead of anything ever seen and this momentum is GROWING.


Internal pollsters are murmuring LANDSLIDE.



If anyone is disgustingly racist it is the gope media.

Posted by: Prescient11 at August 18, 2015 10:49 AM (VMZsK)

325 327 mynewhandle

I am pro White American not a.Moby. Why are you ashamed of PTO white views? Trump will make sure we are taken care of.

Posted by: Go Trump! at August 18, 2015 10:49 AM (PegkE)

326 Well, I share your sentiment, the problem is the
revenue feeds the beast. The more cash they have, from what ever source,
the more government programs they start.


Posted by: Nip Sip at August 18, 2015 10:46 AM (0FSuD)
You make a good point.... I used this to say one nice thing about gay marriage is that it'll hurt govt revenue.

Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 10:50 AM (ioGjO)

327 V the K,



Yep!!!!!!!

Posted by: Prescient11 at August 18, 2015 10:50 AM (VMZsK)

328 Posted by: Go Trump! at August 18, 2015 10:45 AM (PegkE)


i love when you get so excited you can't spell correctly.....or can't you spell correctly?

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 18, 2015 10:50 AM (0O7c5)

329 Those robo-nitwits @ Boston Dynamics would disappear back to their basements if they actually had to make a profitable safe product.

Posted by: DaveA at August 18, 2015 10:50 AM (DL2i+)

330 Posted by: Go Trump! at August 18, 2015 10:45 AM (PegkE)

Hector, that's stupid, even for you. You can't fool anybody because you don't have the first idea of how conservatives think.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at August 18, 2015 10:50 AM (u0lmX)

331 Yawn, the trolls need new material. Why can't they ever bring new pictures of Kate Upton......

Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 10:51 AM (ioGjO)

332 Smother them.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 18, 2015 10:51 AM (evdj2)

333 There are far too many portions of the Left that do,
quite seriously, believe that anyone on the Right is a lesser being,
not to mention not actually human.







Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 18, 2015 10:39 AM (mf5HN)

Exactly. There's a certain point where we may just have to admit that we've become two separate peoples and ought to go our own way. The problem is that the Left are narcissistic megalomaniacs with a Pharisee's ill-gotten pride, and will never agree to such a thing.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 18, 2015 10:52 AM (HalrA)

334 Excellent point. The soft (or not so soft) bigotry of low expectations.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 10:43 AM (NOIQH)

Seriously.

Progressivism has a LARGE dosage of absolute eugenics-style racism baked in to the cake, and has since day 1.

Most of their "core values" started from the assumption of inferior and superior races.

And honestly if you talk to a progressive, with their guard down (as in: they think you're one of them), maybe with a few drinks in them, they will go on racist rants and tears (couched in euphemisms of course) that would make KKK Kleagle Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) blush.

And the REASON they "know" all conservatives are racist is because "we all know black people are not smart enough to survive on their own. So if conservatives want to cut off welfare, they're basically saying they want all black people to die."

And I've had dozens of liberals say some variation of that to me over the years. And I never get why that underlying assumption is not broadcast more openly and more publicly by people on our side of the aisle. I promise I'm not the only person who is surrounded by liberals who has heard variations of that argument from "good compassionate liberals" lips multiple times.

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:52 AM (AkOaV)

335
hillary could help you


Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 18, 2015 10:23 AM (0O7c5)

-----------------------------

Shut your whore mouth!!!!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 18, 2015 10:53 AM (HSmrB)

336 *clambers up on soapbox*

EVERYBODY! LISTEN UP!


BC and I finally got around to podcasting again. I blame everyone but me for the recent lack thereof.

http://bit.ly/1Mw7vXW

Shoo. Go. Listen.

Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at August 18, 2015 10:54 AM (mf5HN)

337 I am pro White American not a.Moby. Why are you ashamed of PTO white views? Trump will make sure we are taken care of.
Posted by: Go Trump! at August 18, 2015 10:49 AM (PegkE)

Yawn.

Go back to demunderground or stormfront or wherever it is you trolls hang out.

And really, if you want to be a successful Moby you need to try a little harder. The key is to say something non controversial, get going back and forth, THEN drop whatever your troll masters want you to drop in the conversation.

If you do it right up front, well, it's wayy too obvious.

I'm sure they teach this in troll school, no?

Posted by: mynewhandle at August 18, 2015 10:55 AM (AkOaV)

338 Exactly. There's a certain point where we may just
have to admit that we've become two separate peoples and ought to go our
own way. The problem is that the Left are narcissistic megalomaniacs
with a Pharisee's ill-gotten pride, and will never agree to such a
thing.


Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 18, 2015 10:52 AM (HalrA)

Once we leave, how will they get lunch money?

Posted by: Draki at August 18, 2015 10:55 AM (ioGjO)

339 You PC types deriding my pro white views will end up benefiting from Trump's policies. Whites in America will have good jobs again. The government will pay for our healthcare and make sure we get a living wage. Our kids will not be tempted to interbreed with inferior 3rd world vermin. Blacks will be put back in their place.

Trump will make America great again!

Posted by: Go Trump! at August 18, 2015 10:57 AM (PegkE)

340 Do you think the troll realizes that no matter what persona he is using, he writes exactly the same.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 18, 2015 10:58 AM (z/Ubi)

341 DON"T repost the KKK guys posts!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 18, 2015 10:58 AM (gf8BH)

342 "Jobs Americans won't do."

I, a man with a doctorate, have done nearly all of those jobs.
Insulated attics.
Dug ditches.
Roofed.
Sheetrocked.
Shoveled shit.
Milked cows (and nearly every other job related to farming)
And a whole lot of other dirty jobs.

And I am not ashamed.

It was a paycheck and I was happy to have the money.

What will the TDS suffers do when (and you know it's coming) Trump meets with Mike Rowe?

Oh, the howling, oh the anger, oh the lamentations!!!


Posted by: RoyalOil at August 18, 2015 10:59 AM (ZvKdv)

343 Hector, be gone!!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 18, 2015 10:59 AM (NOIQH)

344 I'm watching this and I'm detecting a change in tone.


I think the gope is realizing that 1) trump could win; or 2) if they burn the guy and he walks they cannot win.


So it feels like they're pulling back from their peak TDS so the $$ keeps flowing to them.


That's ok though, they have been exposed and it's soooooo refreshing. I'll start by looking at you, fox news.

Posted by: Prescient11 at August 18, 2015 10:59 AM (VMZsK)

345 Posted by: Buzzion at August 18, 2015 10:58 AM (z/Ubi)

Exactly! It's easy to tell who the dipshit is because he's too stupid to know he always sounds the same.

What a loser!

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands) at August 18, 2015 11:00 AM (u0lmX)

346 happy birthday atc!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at August 18, 2015 11:00 AM (0O7c5)

347 Hey-o pendejo, what makes you think we're all white here? This isn't a Leftist think tank, you know...

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 18, 2015 11:01 AM (HalrA)

348 Alex did you see the sad news? The profootballmock guy is done. Done done. Not just no more weekly qbs on Facebook posts. No more anything. A sad day.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 18, 2015 11:01 AM (z/Ubi)

349 RoyalOil,


We could be twins!!!!



I know, we're jsut brain washed vulgar fools, livs.



Lol

Posted by: Prescient11 at August 18, 2015 11:02 AM (VMZsK)

350 Trump is wiining blacks and minorities at a rate never seen and this report is GROWING.


See latest DC Whispers report.



I would think this would be a hot topic for discussion, no?

Posted by: Prescient11 at August 18, 2015 11:04 AM (VMZsK)

351 Posted by: RoyalOil at August 18, 2015 10:59 AM (ZvKdv)


I'm a Technician in IT.


I've cleaned public restrooms, shoveled shit, done disaster recovery, worked as a cashier in a gas station in one of the worst neighborhoods in FL, worked as a stocker, worked in a warehouse, and worked as a line cook.


There is no such thing as a job an American won't do. There's only jobs that Americans won't do for the wages that the crony class offers. Hence why they want to import illegals. Make it impossible for immigrants to undercut American workers, and wages will have to adjust to reasonable levels. Guess what? You'll see Americans doing those jobs again...

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 18, 2015 11:05 AM (HalrA)

352 There is no such thing as a job an American won't do.

If welfare didn't pay so well, people would be amazed at what kind of jobs Americans are willing to do.

Posted by: V the K at August 18, 2015 11:23 AM (O7MnT)

353 Just read the linked article:

"Telling The Truth About Trump Is Not Why We Lose"

So thanks for wasting my time. Caruso sounds like a "mean girl", hurling obnoxious insults, with nothing to back anything up. I'm not even sure what his point was - it just seems like venting - which he's going to be doing a lot of, if he never even makes his argument.

Posted by: Optimizer at August 18, 2015 11:24 AM (/q6+P)

354 trump is appealing to blacks and latinos miles ahead of anything ever

I see evidence of this everyday listening to people in the govt building I work in.

Posted by: wrg500 at August 18, 2015 11:35 AM (sWgE+)

355 #92, we could not do a Linebacker II style campaign if we wanted to. The aircraft no longer exist. I would be curious to know if the amount of ordnance still exists. All the 52 D models that were optimized for conventional bomb carry are scrap or display pieces. We have two small wings of H models left. Those are nuclear cruise missile carriers without the racks to carry a bazillion dumb bombs like the Ds.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at August 18, 2015 11:36 AM (vpUwx)

356 232
At the risk of alienating myself, I'm going to say something daring. Maybe we need to ditch the Conservative label. It's not who we are. While we do stand for traditional values, we do not stand for traditional politics or policies. We don't fit the traditional "wing" spectrum. Let's stop letting long-dead French movements define us. We're still radicals, we're still in our hearts the same revolutionaries who gave birth to the most successful and dynamic nation in history.
As Ronald Reagan himself said, our idea is the newest in all of man's relation to man, that people could govern themselves without an elite making all of their choices for them. The other side? It's offering the same old thing that's been packaged under a million different brands, a central elite with all of the power, making all of the decisions for everybody else.
They're the Conservatives, not us. And it is the fate of the conservative to be dragged kicking and screaming into a future they don't want. The Left/Right dynamic in this country is a horrible injustice of mislabeling. We're Classical Liberals, we haven't changed and neither have they, just as 1/3 of the USA considered themselves loyal Tories after the Revolution, they're still Monarchists, they just believe that the crown should be on their heads instead of some distant King's.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at August 18, 2015 10:26 AM (HalrA)


^^THIS. Well said.

I made a similar point at Neo-neocon recently. The word "conservative" has become a lazy placeholder for concepts like limited Constitutional government, the rule of law, and free-market capitalism. I think it's mistaken to assume that everybody knows that. They don't. I would rather see candidates discussing those specific concepts and explaining them to voters, rather than arguing over who is more "conservative".

Posted by: rickl at August 18, 2015 11:40 AM (zoehZ)

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Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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