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Two Very Disturbing Stories About Planned Parenthood's "Tissue Collection" Business
This Daily Signal interview with a former Planned Parenthood Employee of the Year turned pro-life activist is grim.
Read the whole thing; the case she's making is that this is literally zero-cost for Planned Parenthood, except for shipping (which could be paid by the research companies, the same as they provide the boxes); so it's unclear how Planned Parenthood justifies charging $200 per specimen, given federal law forbidding trade in tissue. The Center for Medical Progress has a new video out too, this time with someone who worked on the tissue procurement side, getting consent for the tissue donations. It's about "opportunities" and "bonuses." As Hot Air's summary says:
At that point, what did the product of conception technician do with the different body parts? If it was during a time that we were participating in a research study, they would pick out whatever was requested--whether it was a specific organ, eyeballs, whatever it was--they would take that out and put that in a specimen bag....
How much did shipping typically cost? The researchers provided the Styrofoam box and dry ice to Planned Parenthood. Literally the only cost we had was shipping the box. And that was about $20 every time we shipped. So Planned Parenthood is getting $200 per specimen, and we’re taking all the specimens, putting them in one box and shipping it off for $20. The different fetal body parts are not shipped individually. Does Planned Parenthood have to hire an employee to sort through the body parts and put them in these containers? It's not like we hire someone just to separate these parts for research because after every single abortion, a product of conception technician reassembles the parts of the baby to make sure that everything was removed. If they don't, that can be fatal for a woman. We had several instances where our product of conception technician failed the patient because they would come back in and there would be a leg still in their uterus and that causes very serious infection. To send the body parts to a research laboratory, it's just a matter of separating them into different bags.
That pressure ends up pushing technicians to get blood and organs even when the women expressly forbid it. In one case O'Donnell recalls, a late-term mother refused consent, which O’Donnell explained to the other technician. "You have to make sure you get her," O'Donnell’s colleague told her, but O'Donnell said she had refused consent. That didn't stop the technician, however. "If there was a higher gestation, and the technicians needed it, there were times when they would just take what they wanted. And these mothers don’t know. And there’s no way they would know."
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Evil
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 12, 2015 11:52 AM (WiU5D)
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Wow, and I even read the content.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 12, 2015 11:52 AM (WiU5D)
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The Bastards!
Posted by: Ken at August 12, 2015 11:52 AM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 11:53 AM (AkOaV)
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Skipping this one. Blood about ready to shoot out of everywhere as it stands.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at August 12, 2015 11:53 AM (2l5vw)
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Buon giorno.
These crimes are so hideous, people won't look. The reason people watch so much TV, to escape these horrors. And it's coming out of the Dem Party.
Buon giorno.
These crimes are so hideous, people won't look. The reason people watch so much TV, to escape these horrors. And it's coming out of the Dem Party.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 12, 2015 11:54 AM (qCMvj)
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You're going to trust the word of an anti-choice advocate?
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 12, 2015 11:54 AM (fWAjv)
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From the video: "Pregnancy tests are potential pregnancies, therefore potential specimens. So it's just taking advantage of the opportunities."
Monstrous.
Monstrous.
Posted by: Occam's Safety Razor at August 12, 2015 11:55 AM (qk1L5)
Posted by: Channeling Hillary Clinton at August 12, 2015 11:55 AM (1TUV/)
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Yes I know I am a horrible human being.....
I really don't see what the big deal is. You guys are making it sound like PP forced these women to have abortions in order to get body parts. That's not what happened. The abortiosn were going to take place regardless. And once the woman has an abortion, she doesn't really get to decide what happens with the aborted fetus. At least she shouldn't have any say.
I really don't see what the big deal is. You guys are making it sound like PP forced these women to have abortions in order to get body parts. That's not what happened. The abortiosn were going to take place regardless. And once the woman has an abortion, she doesn't really get to decide what happens with the aborted fetus. At least she shouldn't have any say.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 11:55 AM (0LHZx)
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>>>after every single abortion, a product of conception technician reassembles the parts of the baby to make sure that everything was removed.
...And I thought my job sucked.
God, can you imagine being that guy?
"Hey hon, how was your day at work today?"
"Eh, not bad. Had some trouble finding a baby leg today. Like, had to search everywhere. Turns out it was in the fridge next to the lasagna! hahaha!"
...And I thought my job sucked.
God, can you imagine being that guy?
"Hey hon, how was your day at work today?"
"Eh, not bad. Had some trouble finding a baby leg today. Like, had to search everywhere. Turns out it was in the fridge next to the lasagna! hahaha!"
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 11:55 AM (AkOaV)
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To send the body parts to a research laboratory, it's just a matter of separating them into different bags.
WTF FOR? WHO THE FUCK NEEDS BODY PARTS FOR RESEARCH??
WTF FOR? WHO THE FUCK NEEDS BODY PARTS FOR RESEARCH??
Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2015 11:55 AM (oqhrS)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 12, 2015 11:56 AM (so+oy)
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It's ironic to me how sexual consent is becoming such a weird issue on college campuses, but lefties will scarcely blink about the consent issues in these "tissue donations."
Posted by: Hal at August 12, 2015 11:56 AM (hmPdt)
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By the way this is doing nothing to help politically....
https://www.yahoo.com/health/poll-shows-voter-opposition-to-defunding-planned-126358919127.html
But hey what the fuck, let's talk about it until election day 2016. What could go wrong?
https://www.yahoo.com/health/poll-shows-voter-opposition-to-defunding-planned-126358919127.html
But hey what the fuck, let's talk about it until election day 2016. What could go wrong?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 11:57 AM (0LHZx)
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And once the woman has an abortion, she doesn't really get to decide what happens with the aborted fetus. At least she shouldn't have any say.
Why not? It's hers.
Why not? It's hers.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2015 11:57 AM (oqhrS)
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This stuff gets harder and harder to simply read and comprehend.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 12, 2015 11:57 AM (LA7Cm)
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"Eh, not bad. Had some trouble finding a baby leg today. Like, had to search everywhere. Turns out it was in the fridge next to the lasagna! hahaha!"
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 11:55 AM (AkOaV)
Your day may have been bad.
Your eternity will be much, much worse.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 11:55 AM (AkOaV)
Your day may have been bad.
Your eternity will be much, much worse.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 12, 2015 11:57 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at August 12, 2015 11:58 AM (WjXce)
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Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 11:55 AM (0LHZx)
Can you folks please deal with Moo Moo because I don't need my BP to go way up.
Can you folks please deal with Moo Moo because I don't need my BP to go way up.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2015 11:58 AM (OSs/l)
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Also from the video, in addition to harvesting without necessarily obtaining consent: unlicensed technicians drawing blood, and a shot of the consent form the patients are supposed to sign, which requires they put their initials next to a line saying they will not receive any compensation for their "donation." Wasn't one of PP's early lines of defense about how the mothers are compensated, or am i mistaken on that last bit?
Posted by: Occam's Safety Razor at August 12, 2015 11:58 AM (qk1L5)
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I want to throw up.
Posted by: dogfish at August 12, 2015 11:58 AM (2/WhT)
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Can you folks please deal with Moo Moo because I don't need my BP to go way up.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2015 11:58 AM (OSs/l)
Sorry Fen. I'm just scrolling past whatever it has to say.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2015 11:58 AM (OSs/l)
Sorry Fen. I'm just scrolling past whatever it has to say.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 12, 2015 11:59 AM (fWAjv)
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I really don't see what the big deal is. You guys are making it sound like PP forced these women to have abortions in order to get body parts. That's not what happened. The abortiosn were going to take place regardless. And once the woman has an abortion, she doesn't really get to decide what happens with the aborted fetus. At least she shouldn't have any say.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 11:55 AM (0LHZx)
Well, Moo, what proof do you have that the abortions would take place regardless?
PP teaches sex ed, "normalizes" abortions, then pressures women who come in for pregnancy tests and gyno visits to have abortions.
Because PP makes a killing off abortions. The woman has to pay $500-$1200 (cash), then they get $200 per organ on the secondary organ market.
The big deal with these videos is not that though. It's just illustrating the lie that abortions are just "terminating a cluster of cells" and has nothing to do with killing human babies.
Ask any pro-life person about details of abortions and how they work. They talk in euphemism and pretend that something other than killing what would otherwise be called a premature baby is happening.
These videos kind of put it IN YOUR FACE that yeah, these are real, developed babies, with real organs (worth a lot of money, FWIW) who given a few more weeks in their mothers wombs would be born alive in a hospital and sent home with the mother (or an adopted mother) as a small "bundle of joy"
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 11:55 AM (0LHZx)
Well, Moo, what proof do you have that the abortions would take place regardless?
PP teaches sex ed, "normalizes" abortions, then pressures women who come in for pregnancy tests and gyno visits to have abortions.
Because PP makes a killing off abortions. The woman has to pay $500-$1200 (cash), then they get $200 per organ on the secondary organ market.
The big deal with these videos is not that though. It's just illustrating the lie that abortions are just "terminating a cluster of cells" and has nothing to do with killing human babies.
Ask any pro-life person about details of abortions and how they work. They talk in euphemism and pretend that something other than killing what would otherwise be called a premature baby is happening.
These videos kind of put it IN YOUR FACE that yeah, these are real, developed babies, with real organs (worth a lot of money, FWIW) who given a few more weeks in their mothers wombs would be born alive in a hospital and sent home with the mother (or an adopted mother) as a small "bundle of joy"
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 11:59 AM (AkOaV)
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I think, perhaps they should have waited until after the Congress comes back from recess. They're all ready for their lavish vacations and even the ones who do care won't pay attention.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2015 11:59 AM (OSs/l)
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I really don't see what the big deal is. You guys are making it sound like PP forced these women to have abortions in order to get body parts. That's not what happened. The abortiosn were going to take place regardless. And once the woman has an abortion, she doesn't really get to decide what happens with the aborted fetus. At least she shouldn't have any say.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 11:55 AM (0LHZx)
Forced? No. But consider that PP puts these women on lists as "potential income" the moment they come in for a pregnancy test. You'd have to be a fool to think that they aren't pressuring these women into aborting, especially in light of the nearly 200:1 ratio of abortions to adoption referrals they make.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 11:55 AM (0LHZx)
Forced? No. But consider that PP puts these women on lists as "potential income" the moment they come in for a pregnancy test. You'd have to be a fool to think that they aren't pressuring these women into aborting, especially in light of the nearly 200:1 ratio of abortions to adoption referrals they make.
Posted by: Hal at August 12, 2015 11:59 AM (hmPdt)
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There's no gore in this video, but it is extremely disturbing nonetheless in the description of these ghouls' baby parts collection practices and disregard for even the pretext of getting consent.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2015 12:00 PM (mx5oN)
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Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 12, 2015 12:00 PM (kff5f)
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There will be a special hell for those with the job title of "product of conception technician".
Posted by: dogfish at August 12, 2015 12:00 PM (2/WhT)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Derringer Bandit at August 12, 2015 12:00 PM (kff5f)
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Can you folks please deal with Moo Moo because I don't need my BP to go way up.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2015 11:58 AM (OSs/l)
You have to understand that Moo's attitude is the prevalent attitude in the country.
It's a touchy subject, I prefer not to be judgey with people over it.
Just hope to win one mind at a time, you know?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2015 11:58 AM (OSs/l)
You have to understand that Moo's attitude is the prevalent attitude in the country.
It's a touchy subject, I prefer not to be judgey with people over it.
Just hope to win one mind at a time, you know?
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:00 PM (AkOaV)
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Pah!
You SOKONZ and your crazy pro-life stance are gonna get us Preznet Hillary!!!111!!!
This is necessary to allow the millions of brother-sister incest babies to be aborted because they will just be stupid and have bad lives anyway. They are FAR more useful as spare parts and cells. Hell , maybe I will be able to grow a new heart someday!
God, my nick cracks me up. You stupid people love Huck and Akin don't you? HI larious!
Also I have more money in the ashtray of my Benz than you will make in a year.
You SOKONZ and your crazy pro-life stance are gonna get us Preznet Hillary!!!111!!!
This is necessary to allow the millions of brother-sister incest babies to be aborted because they will just be stupid and have bad lives anyway. They are FAR more useful as spare parts and cells. Hell , maybe I will be able to grow a new heart someday!
God, my nick cracks me up. You stupid people love Huck and Akin don't you? HI larious!
Also I have more money in the ashtray of my Benz than you will make in a year.
Posted by: UPCHUCK/FAKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:01 PM (Yrjee)
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Just reading part of that above after I just ate lunch nearly made me sick. So I will not read the "whole thing".
And they say Republicans have a war on women.
And they say Republicans have a war on women.
Posted by: Vic at August 12, 2015 12:02 PM (GpgJl)
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"Product of conception" must have focus grouped better than "pre-baby" or "lil organ patch"
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 12, 2015 12:02 PM (1RNgT)
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It's like Planned Parenthood is Satan's Tech-School.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Shipping for Atrocities, Monstrosities, and Barbarisms at the Outrage Outlet! at August 12, 2015 12:02 PM (hLRSq)
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Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 11:57 AM (0LHZx)
I thought I misread your post so I looked at the article. My God, what kind of country are we giving our children that are wanted, loved, and cared for?
I thought I misread your post so I looked at the article. My God, what kind of country are we giving our children that are wanted, loved, and cared for?
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 12, 2015 12:02 PM (ftVQq)
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Even assuming that abortion was morally acceptable (I do not), this is monstrous.
This is far beyond what abortion activists seek....this is a careful destruction of the sanctity of human life, exactly what the Nazi concentration camps and the Soviet gulags and Chinese reeducation camps were meant to do.
This is far beyond what abortion activists seek....this is a careful destruction of the sanctity of human life, exactly what the Nazi concentration camps and the Soviet gulags and Chinese reeducation camps were meant to do.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 12, 2015 12:02 PM (Zu3d9)
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You know, those Jews were going to die anyway, so why waste the parts? Those gold teeth are valuable when you get enough of them, and poppa needs a brand new lamp shade!
Posted by: Der Moo Moo, concentration camp entrepreneur at August 12, 2015 12:02 PM (mx5oN)
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Money in the ashtray in your benz. I guess that's called burning through money?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2015 12:02 PM (OSs/l)
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WTF FOR? WHO THE FUCK NEEDS BODY PARTS FOR RESEARCH??
Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2015 11:55 AM (oqhrS)
My (uninformed) guess?
We will find out that Big Pharma is the primary buyers of "fetal tissue" and that they do so in order to get their drugs past FDA tests.
You may recall the animal nuts have basically put an end to a lot of drug testing on animals.
And the FDA requires tests to approve a drug, so... What better way to test a drugs effects on a liver then to use an actual human liver?
Again, just a guess.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2015 11:55 AM (oqhrS)
My (uninformed) guess?
We will find out that Big Pharma is the primary buyers of "fetal tissue" and that they do so in order to get their drugs past FDA tests.
You may recall the animal nuts have basically put an end to a lot of drug testing on animals.
And the FDA requires tests to approve a drug, so... What better way to test a drugs effects on a liver then to use an actual human liver?
Again, just a guess.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:03 PM (AkOaV)
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Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 11:59 AM (AkOaV)
___________
The people this stuff freaks out are already anti-abortion. I don't think it's converting anyone to the cause. And if you look at polling, it's a YUGE loser politically.
My problem with all of this is it's turning into Todd Akin, Binders full of Women, Sandra Fluke nonsense again. The LIVs will only hear Republicans want to defund planned parenthood and think, oh fuck here we go again.
___________
The people this stuff freaks out are already anti-abortion. I don't think it's converting anyone to the cause. And if you look at polling, it's a YUGE loser politically.
My problem with all of this is it's turning into Todd Akin, Binders full of Women, Sandra Fluke nonsense again. The LIVs will only hear Republicans want to defund planned parenthood and think, oh fuck here we go again.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:03 PM (0LHZx)
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WTF FOR? WHO THE FUCK NEEDS BODY PARTS FOR RESEARCH??
Posted by: rickb223
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mostly stem cell research..
Posted by: rickb223
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mostly stem cell research..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 12, 2015 12:03 PM (so+oy)
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'for the children'
Posted by: willow at August 12, 2015 12:04 PM (nqBYe)
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"pregnancy tissue"
Posted by: some random meathead at August 12, 2015 12:04 PM (Yrjee)
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Hey what about that damn lion?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 12, 2015 12:04 PM (n6Nt0)
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How much longer will You Tube keep these videos available? I would think the progs would pressure them to take them down.
As for MooMoo/Huck/Anus, it isn't like they are taking liposuction fat and making soap with it.
The point the pro-life side has been trying to make for 40 years is that these are babies being killed; we feel it's infanticide. For 40 years, we have been battered with bullshit euphemisms, in an effort to soften the idea that this vile procedure kills a human being: "products of conception," for example, and all the others. Funny how these ghouls have spent all this time calling babies, "clumps of cells," "tumors," and so forth, in an effort to de-humanize and desensitize the world, but now find these clumps of cells very useful to sell.
As for MooMoo/Huck/Anus, it isn't like they are taking liposuction fat and making soap with it.
The point the pro-life side has been trying to make for 40 years is that these are babies being killed; we feel it's infanticide. For 40 years, we have been battered with bullshit euphemisms, in an effort to soften the idea that this vile procedure kills a human being: "products of conception," for example, and all the others. Funny how these ghouls have spent all this time calling babies, "clumps of cells," "tumors," and so forth, in an effort to de-humanize and desensitize the world, but now find these clumps of cells very useful to sell.
Posted by: chiefjaybob at August 12, 2015 12:05 PM (scUv5)
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10 Yes I know I am a horrible human being.....
I really don't see what the big deal is. You guys are making it sound like PP forced these women to have abortions in order to get body parts. That's not what happened. The abortiosn were going to take place regardless. And once the woman has an abortion, she doesn't really get to decide what happens with the aborted fetus. At least she shouldn't have any say.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 11:55 AM (0LHZx)
If you bothered to watch the video, the woman actually says that she was faced with women who were about to get the procedure done and were unsure if they should or not. Sometimes these women would ask the tech whether she should or not. You know, the tech who has a financial incentive to tell her to get the abortion. If you watch the videos and think about it even a little, it's clear that you can't say as a blanket statement that "the abortions were going to happen regardless." Some of them, sure, but not all of them.
Other problems highlighted by the current video that you miss: taking these things without the mother's consent, lying to the mother, unlicensed technicians drawing blood... Some i missed mentioning in my previous post: the waiver the patients sign explicitly says they won't change the procedures in light of tissue donation considerations (proven false by earlier videos) and sharing confidential patient information with StemExpress employees (HIPAA violations, anyone?)
But do go on about how this isn't a big deal.
I really don't see what the big deal is. You guys are making it sound like PP forced these women to have abortions in order to get body parts. That's not what happened. The abortiosn were going to take place regardless. And once the woman has an abortion, she doesn't really get to decide what happens with the aborted fetus. At least she shouldn't have any say.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 11:55 AM (0LHZx)
If you bothered to watch the video, the woman actually says that she was faced with women who were about to get the procedure done and were unsure if they should or not. Sometimes these women would ask the tech whether she should or not. You know, the tech who has a financial incentive to tell her to get the abortion. If you watch the videos and think about it even a little, it's clear that you can't say as a blanket statement that "the abortions were going to happen regardless." Some of them, sure, but not all of them.
Other problems highlighted by the current video that you miss: taking these things without the mother's consent, lying to the mother, unlicensed technicians drawing blood... Some i missed mentioning in my previous post: the waiver the patients sign explicitly says they won't change the procedures in light of tissue donation considerations (proven false by earlier videos) and sharing confidential patient information with StemExpress employees (HIPAA violations, anyone?)
But do go on about how this isn't a big deal.
Posted by: Occam's Safety Razor at August 12, 2015 12:05 PM (qk1L5)
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Hey Huck/Yuck...If the "people" being polled saw and knew about this I think it would change their views,,,, at least in the "harvesting" part.....
Posted by: donna at August 12, 2015 12:05 PM (hUdMz)
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mostly stem cell research..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 12, 2015 12:03 PM (so+oy)
Aren't they still waiting for marvelous breakthroughs in that area?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 12, 2015 12:03 PM (so+oy)
Aren't they still waiting for marvelous breakthroughs in that area?
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 12, 2015 12:05 PM (ftVQq)
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Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:00 PM (AkOaV)
You seem to be doing very well and you're probably a better person to approach I'm on it since you can't be accused of being some "religious nutcase".
I'm not being "judgey" although I could be, i suppose, but it's more about the thinking not Moo0Moo himself. i just choose not to speak to him on this.
You seem to be doing very well and you're probably a better person to approach I'm on it since you can't be accused of being some "religious nutcase".
I'm not being "judgey" although I could be, i suppose, but it's more about the thinking not Moo0Moo himself. i just choose not to speak to him on this.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2015 12:05 PM (OSs/l)
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Who cares about killing babies, we have an election to win!
HUCK/AKIN/SLAUGHTER
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Maybe the polls are against defunding PP because the MSM has embargoed the story? You think of that you ghoul?
HUCK/AKIN/SLAUGHTER
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Maybe the polls are against defunding PP because the MSM has embargoed the story? You think of that you ghoul?
Posted by: WOPR at August 12, 2015 12:06 PM (nRvEn)
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70% of the public is fine with abortion. Decades of polling have shown this.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx
So when the GOP starts talking about de-funding abortions, it's a losing proposition. And yet year after year, it comes up as an issue.
So yeah, might as well nominate the HUCK/AKIN ticket since this is what the man on the street thinks of the GOP anyway.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx
So when the GOP starts talking about de-funding abortions, it's a losing proposition. And yet year after year, it comes up as an issue.
So yeah, might as well nominate the HUCK/AKIN ticket since this is what the man on the street thinks of the GOP anyway.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:06 PM (0LHZx)
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No doubt the NYT will have a Hillary comment defending this practice very soon.
And Mitt/Jeb. Lets ask them too.
And Mitt/Jeb. Lets ask them too.
Posted by: MTF at August 12, 2015 12:06 PM (LISuA)
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We will find out that Big Pharma is the primary buyers of "fetal tissue" and that they do so in order to get their drugs past FDA tests.
Tissue is one thing.
WHO THE FUCK NEEDS A BABY LEG FOR RESEARCH?
Seriously.
And it it is an identifiable leg, then it's a human and not a clump of cells.
May God forgive them. Because I never will.
Tissue is one thing.
WHO THE FUCK NEEDS A BABY LEG FOR RESEARCH?
Seriously.
And it it is an identifiable leg, then it's a human and not a clump of cells.
May God forgive them. Because I never will.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2015 12:06 PM (oqhrS)
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I wonder how many people who sought an abortion that was for convenience, not necessity would think otherwise if they were not cloaked in propaganda, misled and lied to...
Posted by: Marcus T at August 12, 2015 12:06 PM (GGCsk)
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Maybe the polls are against defunding PP because the MSM has embargoed the story? You think of that you ghoul?
Posted by: WOPR at August 12, 2015 12:06 PM (nRvEn)
__________
No this story is out there in the general public discourse. But except for a small minority of people, nobody really gives a fuck.
Posted by: WOPR at August 12, 2015 12:06 PM (nRvEn)
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No this story is out there in the general public discourse. But except for a small minority of people, nobody really gives a fuck.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:07 PM (0LHZx)
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>>>>My problem with all of this is it's turning into Todd Akin, Binders full of Women, Sandra Fluke nonsense again.
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I have a solution for you cow pie boi, why don't you play in the freeway.
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I have a solution for you cow pie boi, why don't you play in the freeway.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 12, 2015 12:07 PM (n6Nt0)
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I think people are getting burnt out on this story, sadly. Yes, PP did something else evil, please I don't want to look any more
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 12:07 PM (39g3+)
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Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:03 PM (0LHZx)
I guess.
But, again, that was the same argument the Whigs used about slavery.
"C'mon! Who gives a shit about the slaves? We've got more important stuff to focus on, like taxes on dividends!"
Abortion is a moral issue, not a political issue, and you are not going to convince millions of people who know in their heart that abortion is murder in the first degree that it's a normal thing they should get used to.
And I think when most people really sit down and think about it, and read about the laws and procedures and read what abortion doctors say, well... It clearly is murdering a human being.
Some people are okay with that. "Well, the mom was a poor black woman from the ghetto. The kid was going to grow up to be a piece of shit anyways" is the implicit argument pro-abortion people like to trot out.
Others take the more Christian approach -- "we're all gods children, and all equal in his eyes, and not of us have the right to take another persons life."
Then of course, the libertarian / natural law argument that everyone, no matter how "useless" their life may seem, has an inalienable right to, at the very least, their life.
I guess.
But, again, that was the same argument the Whigs used about slavery.
"C'mon! Who gives a shit about the slaves? We've got more important stuff to focus on, like taxes on dividends!"
Abortion is a moral issue, not a political issue, and you are not going to convince millions of people who know in their heart that abortion is murder in the first degree that it's a normal thing they should get used to.
And I think when most people really sit down and think about it, and read about the laws and procedures and read what abortion doctors say, well... It clearly is murdering a human being.
Some people are okay with that. "Well, the mom was a poor black woman from the ghetto. The kid was going to grow up to be a piece of shit anyways" is the implicit argument pro-abortion people like to trot out.
Others take the more Christian approach -- "we're all gods children, and all equal in his eyes, and not of us have the right to take another persons life."
Then of course, the libertarian / natural law argument that everyone, no matter how "useless" their life may seem, has an inalienable right to, at the very least, their life.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:07 PM (AkOaV)
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I mean it's more about the thinking of "It's no big deal" rather tun Moo-Moo himself, who likes to say thing sometimes just to get a response.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2015 12:07 PM (OSs/l)
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By the way this is doing nothing to help politically....
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 11:57 AM (0LHZx)
"Hart Research Associates on behalf of the Planned Parenthood Action Fund"
This is not what you would call an objective result, despite being "randomly selected." Also, HRA says it was a poll of "800 registered voters." That's not a survey I would hang my hat on.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 11:57 AM (0LHZx)
"Hart Research Associates on behalf of the Planned Parenthood Action Fund"
This is not what you would call an objective result, despite being "randomly selected." Also, HRA says it was a poll of "800 registered voters." That's not a survey I would hang my hat on.
Posted by: Hal at August 12, 2015 12:07 PM (hmPdt)
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Too bad I am not around today as I could show PP there is much more money to be had in lamp shades, soap and tattoo collections.
God bless Planned Parenthood as your President Obama is oft to say....
God bless Planned Parenthood as your President Obama is oft to say....
Posted by: Zombie Ilse Koch at August 12, 2015 12:08 PM (D0NZx)
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My problem with all of this is it's turning into Todd Akin, Binders full
of Women, Sandra Fluke nonsense again.
Bang on! Because we had no plans of doing that anyway.
of Women, Sandra Fluke nonsense again.
Bang on! Because we had no plans of doing that anyway.
Posted by: The Objective Right of Centre Mainstream Media at August 12, 2015 12:08 PM (NF2Bf)
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Stopped down for lunch break and to read AoS. Read this and threw my turkey sandwhich into nearest trash bin before it came up via other avenues. Sick. Just freaking sick.
Posted by: Russkilitlover at August 12, 2015 12:09 PM (DuM4f)
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No this story is out there in the general public discourse. But except for a small minority of people, nobody really gives a fuck.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:07 PM (0LHZx)
The MSM is reporting this as, "Republicans argue that Planned Parenthood has violated an obscure federal law against profiting from fetal remains, PP claims the money charged was reimbursement."
Which sounds like a nothing burger of a story.
The actual story has yet to make it past the MSM gatekeepers to the LIVs.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:07 PM (0LHZx)
The MSM is reporting this as, "Republicans argue that Planned Parenthood has violated an obscure federal law against profiting from fetal remains, PP claims the money charged was reimbursement."
Which sounds like a nothing burger of a story.
The actual story has yet to make it past the MSM gatekeepers to the LIVs.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:09 PM (AkOaV)
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>>> And once the woman has an abortion, she doesn't really get to decide
what happens with the aborted fetus. At least she shouldn't have any
say.
So "my body, my choice" is just empty rhetoric after all? The hell you say!!
what happens with the aborted fetus. At least she shouldn't have any
say.
So "my body, my choice" is just empty rhetoric after all? The hell you say!!
Posted by: LizLem, shocked shocked I tell you! at August 12, 2015 12:09 PM (hvf9s)
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So Moo doesn't care about dead babies so long as the RINOs get elected. What a shock.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 12, 2015 12:09 PM (LWWrf)
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If you bothered to watch the video, the woman actually says that she was faced with women who were about to get the procedure done and were unsure if they should or not. Sometimes these women would ask the tech whether she should or not. You know, the tech who has a financial incentive to tell her to get the abortion. If you watch the videos and think about it even a little, it's clear that you can't say as a blanket statement that "the abortions were going to happen regardless." Some of them, sure, but not all of them.
Other problems highlighted by the current video that you miss: taking these things without the mother's consent, lying to the mother, unlicensed technicians drawing blood... Some i missed mentioning in my previous post: the waiver the patients sign explicitly says they won't change the procedures in light of tissue donation considerations (proven false by earlier videos) and sharing confidential patient information with StemExpress employees (HIPAA violations, anyone?)
But do go on about how this isn't a big deal.
Posted by: Occam's Safety Razor at August 12, 2015 12:05 PM (qk1L5)
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That's laughable. A woman goes to PP and asks should I get an abortion? That's like me going to Jiffy Lube and asking, do you think my car needs an oil chance? Gee I wonder how often the answer is no...maybe 1 in 100,000? Selling body parts or no, PP will always say yeah get an abortion. It's their business for crying out loud.
Violating HIPPA...OK that should be prosecuted if it's true. But I don't think a woman should have the right to decide what is done with an aborted fetus after the fact.
Other problems highlighted by the current video that you miss: taking these things without the mother's consent, lying to the mother, unlicensed technicians drawing blood... Some i missed mentioning in my previous post: the waiver the patients sign explicitly says they won't change the procedures in light of tissue donation considerations (proven false by earlier videos) and sharing confidential patient information with StemExpress employees (HIPAA violations, anyone?)
But do go on about how this isn't a big deal.
Posted by: Occam's Safety Razor at August 12, 2015 12:05 PM (qk1L5)
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That's laughable. A woman goes to PP and asks should I get an abortion? That's like me going to Jiffy Lube and asking, do you think my car needs an oil chance? Gee I wonder how often the answer is no...maybe 1 in 100,000? Selling body parts or no, PP will always say yeah get an abortion. It's their business for crying out loud.
Violating HIPPA...OK that should be prosecuted if it's true. But I don't think a woman should have the right to decide what is done with an aborted fetus after the fact.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:10 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 12, 2015 12:10 PM (W5DcG)
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And once the woman has an abortion, she doesn't really get to decide what happens with the aborted fetus.[/i}
Except the law says so, but we should do away with laws, such silly little things.
Except the law says so, but we should do away with laws, such silly little things.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 12, 2015 12:10 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 12, 2015 12:10 PM (ODxAs)
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At least she shouldn't have any say.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 11:55 AM (0LHZx)
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Why not? The woman and PP are making a deal, and if the woman doesn't like it, she has a right to negotiate a better deal and hold them to it. Since PP is profiting, they could offer to reduce the price.
Not that I'm advocating any of this. I just think it would be great to see PP go down in flames due to a class action suit.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 11:55 AM (0LHZx)
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Why not? The woman and PP are making a deal, and if the woman doesn't like it, she has a right to negotiate a better deal and hold them to it. Since PP is profiting, they could offer to reduce the price.
Not that I'm advocating any of this. I just think it would be great to see PP go down in flames due to a class action suit.
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at August 12, 2015 12:11 PM (E5UB0)
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Nice save, Guy.
Posted by: chiefjaybob at August 12, 2015 12:11 PM (scUv5)
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55 I wonder how many people who sought an abortion that was for convenience, not necessity would think otherwise if they were not cloaked in propaganda, misled and lied to...
Posted by: Marcus T at August 12, 2015 12:06 PM (GGCsk)
I know several young women who have had abortions. I don't think any of them would have if it were not so "socially acceptable."
None of their abortions were for any medical reason -- just that the women were in high school / college and did not want to be "burdened with a baby."
How many of them would have had the abortion if it was socially unacceptable? Probably none. They all came from families with money, they all were smart girls, I'm sure they would have raised the kid without too many issues.
But whatever.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 12, 2015 12:06 PM (GGCsk)
I know several young women who have had abortions. I don't think any of them would have if it were not so "socially acceptable."
None of their abortions were for any medical reason -- just that the women were in high school / college and did not want to be "burdened with a baby."
How many of them would have had the abortion if it was socially unacceptable? Probably none. They all came from families with money, they all were smart girls, I'm sure they would have raised the kid without too many issues.
But whatever.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:11 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 12, 2015 12:11 PM (wtvvX)
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52 70% of the public is fine with abortion. Decades of polling have shown this.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx
Per usual, you're full of shit. That poll shows a majority position of support for legal abortion only in certain circumstances, and a plurality for legal under only a few circumstances. That is not "70% of the public is fine with abortion." You're not just a ghoul, you're an ineptly mendacious ghoul.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx
Per usual, you're full of shit. That poll shows a majority position of support for legal abortion only in certain circumstances, and a plurality for legal under only a few circumstances. That is not "70% of the public is fine with abortion." You're not just a ghoul, you're an ineptly mendacious ghoul.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2015 12:11 PM (mx5oN)
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Akin, alright, because it's a political loser to you we should just accept the killing of preterm babies for parts manufacturing.
who cares they would be killed anyway. BECAUSE PP and the abortion industry has shut down any education on what the product of abortion actually IS.
the whole abortion discussion has been dishonest from the start.
The fact that they are Pushing for Partial birth abortions doesn't mean anything.
to one person -one minute its a parasite
to the next family it's a Baby.
how about at tghe least we use this time to shut down that aspect?
and demand women actually be educated about her 20-24-39 week old'parasite"?
why is it we demand knowledge about our health care from cancer to an appendectomy and full dislosures.
yet abortion where t least one human is assured dieing we are not allowed to have full disclosure openly?
who cares they would be killed anyway. BECAUSE PP and the abortion industry has shut down any education on what the product of abortion actually IS.
the whole abortion discussion has been dishonest from the start.
The fact that they are Pushing for Partial birth abortions doesn't mean anything.
to one person -one minute its a parasite
to the next family it's a Baby.
how about at tghe least we use this time to shut down that aspect?
and demand women actually be educated about her 20-24-39 week old'parasite"?
why is it we demand knowledge about our health care from cancer to an appendectomy and full dislosures.
yet abortion where t least one human is assured dieing we are not allowed to have full disclosure openly?
Posted by: willow at August 12, 2015 12:11 PM (nqBYe)
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Abortion - how else are we to deal with the surplus population? Workhouses and prisons are very expensive, you know. Every abortion is like a tax cut in the future.
/sarc
/sarc
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Shipping for Atrocities, Monstrosities, and Barbarisms at the Outrage Outlet! at August 12, 2015 12:11 PM (hLRSq)
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Some Republicans in Congress say that because of the undercover videos released by the Center for Medical Progress, there should be an immediate vote to end all
government funding for Planned Parenthood, including for services Planned Parenthood provides, such as cancer screenings and family planning. Do you strongly agree, somewhat agree, somewhat disagree, or strongly disagree with the Republicans who say Congress should vote immediately vote to end all government funding for Planned Parenthood, including for services Planned Parenthood provides, such as cancer screenings and family planning?
Only question I found so far.
government funding for Planned Parenthood, including for services Planned Parenthood provides, such as cancer screenings and family planning. Do you strongly agree, somewhat agree, somewhat disagree, or strongly disagree with the Republicans who say Congress should vote immediately vote to end all government funding for Planned Parenthood, including for services Planned Parenthood provides, such as cancer screenings and family planning?
Only question I found so far.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 12, 2015 12:11 PM (fWAjv)
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You guys, this whole ripping apart baby bodies and selling them for profit thing is hilarious. Funny or Die just told me so today.
To be fair, in the FoD video, they are playing straw man and pretending PP is all about giving free health care--conveniently ignoring the PP video horrors. Then in the comments all the PP acolytes talk about how conservatives ignore facts. #nohopeforthiscountry
To be fair, in the FoD video, they are playing straw man and pretending PP is all about giving free health care--conveniently ignoring the PP video horrors. Then in the comments all the PP acolytes talk about how conservatives ignore facts. #nohopeforthiscountry
Posted by: PBJ5959 at August 12, 2015 12:12 PM (r1du+)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 12, 2015 12:12 PM (n6Nt0)
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The description of needing to get legs out of a uterus is horrifying.
If this does anything, I hope it gets people to realize WTF is actually happening here. Because any talk about 'this isn't a baby' is a huge, obvious lie.
If this does anything, I hope it gets people to realize WTF is actually happening here. Because any talk about 'this isn't a baby' is a huge, obvious lie.
Posted by: Lea at August 12, 2015 12:13 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 12, 2015 12:13 PM (ODxAs)
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mostly stem cell research..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 12, 2015 12:03 PM (so+oy)
Explain to me what the fuck you are talking about.
What stem cells are there in a fetal leg that aren't in an adult leg?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 12, 2015 12:03 PM (so+oy)
Explain to me what the fuck you are talking about.
What stem cells are there in a fetal leg that aren't in an adult leg?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 12, 2015 12:13 PM (Zu3d9)
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That's laughable.
No, it's what happens. Does your bloodthirsty disregard for human life run so deep that you can't see what's right in front of you? You are a sick twisted fuck.
No, it's what happens. Does your bloodthirsty disregard for human life run so deep that you can't see what's right in front of you? You are a sick twisted fuck.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2015 12:13 PM (mx5oN)
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But I don't think a woman should have the right to decide what is done with an aborted fetus after the fact.
Do you even fucking realize what a god-damned shithead you are?
Do you?
Do you even fucking realize what a god-damned shithead you are?
Do you?
Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 12, 2015 12:14 PM (wtvvX)
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Obama, burdened with a baby.
at least He's honest enough to say it's a baby.
too bad he thinks killing a 'baby' is ..
at least He's honest enough to say it's a baby.
too bad he thinks killing a 'baby' is ..
Posted by: willow at August 12, 2015 12:14 PM (nqBYe)
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The MSM is reporting this as, "Republicans argue that Planned Parenthood has violated an obscure federal law against profiting from fetal remains, PP claims the money charged was reimbursement."
Which sounds like a nothing burger of a story.
The actual story has yet to make it past the MSM gatekeepers to the LIVs.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:09 PM (AkOaV)
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That's true to some extent. But being LIVs, they do get that PP is selling body parts from aborted fetuses and there are videos too. In a way this issue is good for the LIVs since it's easy to bumper sticker the message.
Which sounds like a nothing burger of a story.
The actual story has yet to make it past the MSM gatekeepers to the LIVs.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:09 PM (AkOaV)
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That's true to some extent. But being LIVs, they do get that PP is selling body parts from aborted fetuses and there are videos too. In a way this issue is good for the LIVs since it's easy to bumper sticker the message.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:14 PM (0LHZx)
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Yes, it would be so icky to take a stand on this. Why, a lot of people will be upset at anyone who wants to criticize. Even Barack Obama said that Planned Parenthood was doing "God's work".
There was a series of stories from Larry Niven, regarding people wanting to live for a very long time, and so for crimes, the convicted were broken up for body parts. At one point, jaywalking became a capital crime.
I don't know if that is the world we are heading for, but it seems one possible logical outcome, unless enough people stand across the path of this destiny and cry "halt!"
What kind of society do YOU want to live in? One that has a regard for every life, even the convicted in prison. Or where life is ''fungible" and we are all potential replacement body parts for people that can afford it?
There was also some outcry from medical researchers, dismissing the advantages of the use of foetal stem cells (which could be harvested from the aborted fetuses), as this path of research has been dismissed as non-productive, as foetal stem cells tend to over-grow and be dangerous in application.
The sun is shining outside, and it's a beautiful summer day in August. But under this same sky, people are killing the unborn, and harvesting their organs.....for research. Gives you pause to think about what we are becoming.
There was a series of stories from Larry Niven, regarding people wanting to live for a very long time, and so for crimes, the convicted were broken up for body parts. At one point, jaywalking became a capital crime.
I don't know if that is the world we are heading for, but it seems one possible logical outcome, unless enough people stand across the path of this destiny and cry "halt!"
What kind of society do YOU want to live in? One that has a regard for every life, even the convicted in prison. Or where life is ''fungible" and we are all potential replacement body parts for people that can afford it?
There was also some outcry from medical researchers, dismissing the advantages of the use of foetal stem cells (which could be harvested from the aborted fetuses), as this path of research has been dismissed as non-productive, as foetal stem cells tend to over-grow and be dangerous in application.
The sun is shining outside, and it's a beautiful summer day in August. But under this same sky, people are killing the unborn, and harvesting their organs.....for research. Gives you pause to think about what we are becoming.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at August 12, 2015 12:14 PM (+1T7c)
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By the way this is doing nothing to help politically....
Ah, Bill Clinton morality.
And you wonder why you come across as an idiot.
Ah, Bill Clinton morality.
And you wonder why you come across as an idiot.
Posted by: which way is the wind blowing this morning? at August 12, 2015 12:14 PM (ZtFr+)
Posted by: Sharkman at August 12, 2015 12:14 PM (72D6h)
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T Y jaybob, I was on the edge of the barrel. whew.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 12, 2015 12:13 PM
Soon....
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 12, 2015 12:13 PM
Soon....
Posted by: The Barrel at August 12, 2015 12:14 PM (QiBX8)
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"Oh, come on. Dead is dead, and at that point, what does it matter? "
Except it is too easy accept the idea that it would be beneficial to make a living baby dead, so you can sell the parts. Selling human parts for profit, is only one step removed from selling human parts for food, for profit, which is only one step removed from raising humans as if they were food animals.
There is always a what next.
Except it is too easy accept the idea that it would be beneficial to make a living baby dead, so you can sell the parts. Selling human parts for profit, is only one step removed from selling human parts for food, for profit, which is only one step removed from raising humans as if they were food animals.
There is always a what next.
Posted by: Harvey Hapless Kormackov at August 12, 2015 12:15 PM (ZQqES)
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So Moo Moo is Huck/Akin?
Should've known it was a shot at the socons.
You know, I have many personal failings and consistently fail to live up to socially conservative standards.
Having said that, you'll never have a fiscal conservative without most people following socially conservative ways of living.
Should've known it was a shot at the socons.
You know, I have many personal failings and consistently fail to live up to socially conservative standards.
Having said that, you'll never have a fiscal conservative without most people following socially conservative ways of living.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 12, 2015 12:15 PM (oFCZn)
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All Moo Moo sees is dollar signs.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 12, 2015 12:15 PM (oVJmc)
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Do you even fucking realize what a god-damned shithead you are?
Do you?
AKIN moo has children.
Think about that for a minute.
Do you?
AKIN moo has children.
Think about that for a minute.
Posted by: some random meathead at August 12, 2015 12:15 PM (Yrjee)
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82 The description of needing to get legs out of a uterus is horrifying.
If this does anything, I hope it gets people to realize WTF is actually happening here. Because any talk about 'this isn't a baby' is a huge, obvious lie.
Posted by: Lea at August 12, 2015 12:13 PM (lIU4e)
Well, and it is a real problem.
If you read the Gosnell grand jury indictment, he had several 'close calls' where he left legs / arms / pieces of the torso in womens uterus's, and was not skilled enough to remove them.
He sent the women home.
Several ended up serious septic shock.
If this does anything, I hope it gets people to realize WTF is actually happening here. Because any talk about 'this isn't a baby' is a huge, obvious lie.
Posted by: Lea at August 12, 2015 12:13 PM (lIU4e)
Well, and it is a real problem.
If you read the Gosnell grand jury indictment, he had several 'close calls' where he left legs / arms / pieces of the torso in womens uterus's, and was not skilled enough to remove them.
He sent the women home.
Several ended up serious septic shock.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:15 PM (AkOaV)
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It seems like lawfare is a better approach to this than the defunding debate. How is this not grounds for a class action lawsuit from every woman who had a PP abortion. If you there is a possibility that your child's body parts were sold off by a bunch of ghouls, does that not form a basis for mental anguish?
Don't defund them. Sue the shit out of them. The discovery process alone would be a gold mine.
Don't defund them. Sue the shit out of them. The discovery process alone would be a gold mine.
Posted by: ZBBMcFate at August 12, 2015 12:15 PM (Hj9yW)
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And your comparison of abortion to getting an oil change shows what a morally bankrupt simulacrum of a human being you are.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2015 12:15 PM (mx5oN)
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You guys are making it sound like PP forced these women to have abortions in order to get body parts.
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YOU FUCKING IDIOT.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT FUCKING HAPPENS--YOU SOULLESS FUCKING GHOUL.
You know nothing of what PP does. And you think that entitles you to hold forth as an expert.
Yes, they absolutely fucking DO pressure these women into having an abortion.
There are a lot of women who go to PP for guidance--you know the "planned" part. "I'm pregnant, I don't know what to do."
Do you think they counsel them, "We have several plans for crisis pregnancies: Have you talked to the father? Have you talked to your family? Do you want to keep the baby? Have you spoken to your church? Have you reached out to crisis pregnancy centers to help you pay for baby necessities? Have you thought of adoption?"
THEY DON'T DO ONE OF THOSE FUCKING THINGS, YOU IDIOT.
It's all "an abortion will solve all your problems all the time; you don't need a baby, you can't handle a baby, it's not really a baby anyway--just a clump of cells; it's legal, no one needs to know; you'll be able to get on with your life, everybody makes mistakes, we'll make it all go away; we even have these nice, glossy pamphlets which explain how abortion really is the best option for you."
Gawd, you are awful. Stupid and awful.
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YOU FUCKING IDIOT.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT FUCKING HAPPENS--YOU SOULLESS FUCKING GHOUL.
You know nothing of what PP does. And you think that entitles you to hold forth as an expert.
Yes, they absolutely fucking DO pressure these women into having an abortion.
There are a lot of women who go to PP for guidance--you know the "planned" part. "I'm pregnant, I don't know what to do."
Do you think they counsel them, "We have several plans for crisis pregnancies: Have you talked to the father? Have you talked to your family? Do you want to keep the baby? Have you spoken to your church? Have you reached out to crisis pregnancy centers to help you pay for baby necessities? Have you thought of adoption?"
THEY DON'T DO ONE OF THOSE FUCKING THINGS, YOU IDIOT.
It's all "an abortion will solve all your problems all the time; you don't need a baby, you can't handle a baby, it's not really a baby anyway--just a clump of cells; it's legal, no one needs to know; you'll be able to get on with your life, everybody makes mistakes, we'll make it all go away; we even have these nice, glossy pamphlets which explain how abortion really is the best option for you."
Gawd, you are awful. Stupid and awful.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 12, 2015 12:15 PM (ZvKdv)
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If you think all life is precious, don't have an abortion. But don't tell everyone else how to live. It's really as simple as that.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:15 PM (0LHZx)
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All you indians do is stick up for one another.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 12, 2015 12:12 PM (n6Nt0)
I'm not that kind of a chief, but I'll take the land grants and casino rights.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 12, 2015 12:12 PM (n6Nt0)
I'm not that kind of a chief, but I'll take the land grants and casino rights.
Posted by: chiefjaybob at August 12, 2015 12:16 PM (scUv5)
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Once you convince yourself the other is sub-human you can anything at all to them.
Posted by: Little Boomer at August 12, 2015 12:16 PM (ZuVs9)
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And yet the "conservative" "establishment" Republicans in Congress will do NOTHING to stop funding PP other than failure fucking theater.
In contrast, the faux conservative Trump has said he would shut the fucking government down over funding until PP is out of the abortion business.
But I know, he's a liberal cocksucker.
In contrast, the faux conservative Trump has said he would shut the fucking government down over funding until PP is out of the abortion business.
But I know, he's a liberal cocksucker.
Posted by: prescient11 at August 12, 2015 12:16 PM (q5APL)
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Hart Research Poll findings.
http://tinyurl.com/p7a6j95
800 respondents.
I'd say 797 of them haven't seen the videos.
http://tinyurl.com/p7a6j95
800 respondents.
I'd say 797 of them haven't seen the videos.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 12, 2015 12:16 PM (fWAjv)
106
Extracted teeth are treated with more respect .
Posted by: Drpullit at August 12, 2015 12:16 PM (rpllu)
107
96 Do you even fucking realize what a god-damned shithead you are?
Do you?
AKIN moo has children.
Think about that for a minute.
Posted by: some random meathead at August 12, 2015 12:15 PM (Yrjee)
He'd be perfectly happy to take his daughter to the abortion mill to get her baby chopped up, then fish through the parts going "Hey, we can get money for this!"
Do you?
AKIN moo has children.
Think about that for a minute.
Posted by: some random meathead at August 12, 2015 12:15 PM (Yrjee)
He'd be perfectly happy to take his daughter to the abortion mill to get her baby chopped up, then fish through the parts going "Hey, we can get money for this!"
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2015 12:17 PM (mx5oN)
108
Just when I thought there was a sliver of a chance of winning in 2016.....BOOM....it gets blown up by the abortion death start.
Oh well, maybe 2020.
Oh well, maybe 2020.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:17 PM (0LHZx)
109
Yes I know I am a horrible human being.....
Glad to see you admit it.
As has been pointed out, the same animals who so casually discuss "opportunities," "bonuses" and "higher gestations" will, at some point, be in charge of your end-of-life care.
I suspect you'll consider yourself to be much more than just a clump of cells when some bottom-line paper-pusher decides you're just a worthless eater and would be better off unplugged.
Glad to see you admit it.
As has been pointed out, the same animals who so casually discuss "opportunities," "bonuses" and "higher gestations" will, at some point, be in charge of your end-of-life care.
I suspect you'll consider yourself to be much more than just a clump of cells when some bottom-line paper-pusher decides you're just a worthless eater and would be better off unplugged.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 12, 2015 12:18 PM (zF6Iw)
110
>>Selling body parts or no, PP will always say yeah get an abortion. It's their business for crying out loud.
That's funny, I could have sworn that PP has been saying that their business is general women's health and abortion is only a small percentage and zero federal money is being used for abortion. Which of course, is a lie.
The idea that the public at large is well aware of the real facts of this story is absurd. The msm is either embargoing completely or distorting what is actually taking place as they do whenever one of their pet organizations is caught red handed. The examples of this are too numerous to list and if you are really of the opinion that the msm is telling this story straight and giving the public the facts then there is no hope for you at all.
That's funny, I could have sworn that PP has been saying that their business is general women's health and abortion is only a small percentage and zero federal money is being used for abortion. Which of course, is a lie.
The idea that the public at large is well aware of the real facts of this story is absurd. The msm is either embargoing completely or distorting what is actually taking place as they do whenever one of their pet organizations is caught red handed. The examples of this are too numerous to list and if you are really of the opinion that the msm is telling this story straight and giving the public the facts then there is no hope for you at all.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2015 12:18 PM (OGm46)
111
Banhammer, anyone?
Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 12, 2015 12:18 PM (wtvvX)
112
Now maybe Bruce Jenner can grow a 70 year old vagina, and still be a virgin.
Posted by: Fritz at August 12, 2015 12:18 PM (o/UmK)
113
In contrast, the faux conservative Trump has said he would shut the
fucking government down over funding until PP is out of the abortion
business.
And Cruz actually did shut the government down.
Hmmm...
That meeting in New York must have been a doozy.
fucking government down over funding until PP is out of the abortion
business.
And Cruz actually did shut the government down.
Hmmm...
That meeting in New York must have been a doozy.
Posted by: some random meathead at August 12, 2015 12:19 PM (Yrjee)
114
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they hand out "birth control pills" that are just placebos in order to get more girls pregnant and ready for the harvest...
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 12, 2015 12:19 PM (7YlUk)
115
AKIN moo has children.
Think about that for a minute.
Cash in the bank.
How much $$ for the three year old??
Think about that for a minute.
Cash in the bank.
How much $$ for the three year old??
Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2015 12:19 PM (oqhrS)
116
So this is a new video?
Posted by: donna at August 12, 2015 12:19 PM (hUdMz)
117
107 96 Do you even fucking realize what a god-damned shithead you are?
Do you?
AKIN moo has children.
Think about that for a minute.
Posted by: some random meathead at August 12, 2015 12:15 PM (Yrjee)
He'd be perfectly happy to take his daughter to the abortion mill to get her baby chopped up, then fish through the parts going "Hey, we can get money for this!"
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2015 12:17 PM (mx5oN)
_________
Yes I have kids. You know why? Because my wife made a.....wait for it.....***CHOICE*** to have kids. Now on the other hand, millions of women are not ready to have kids. And they make the...wait for it.....***CHOICE*** to not have kids.
Funny how that works huh.
And funny how so called conservatives who scream about the govt leaving you alone and letting you live your life in peace are the same ones who want the govt forcing a woman to have a fucking child and raise it for 20 years. Cuz that's the hallmark of freedom.
Do you?
AKIN moo has children.
Think about that for a minute.
Posted by: some random meathead at August 12, 2015 12:15 PM (Yrjee)
He'd be perfectly happy to take his daughter to the abortion mill to get her baby chopped up, then fish through the parts going "Hey, we can get money for this!"
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2015 12:17 PM (mx5oN)
_________
Yes I have kids. You know why? Because my wife made a.....wait for it.....***CHOICE*** to have kids. Now on the other hand, millions of women are not ready to have kids. And they make the...wait for it.....***CHOICE*** to not have kids.
Funny how that works huh.
And funny how so called conservatives who scream about the govt leaving you alone and letting you live your life in peace are the same ones who want the govt forcing a woman to have a fucking child and raise it for 20 years. Cuz that's the hallmark of freedom.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:19 PM (0LHZx)
118
Organleggers. Wouldn't the proper blood-type liver (since the liver will grow), be very valuable to some rich person who is low on the recipient list?
Posted by: delayna at August 12, 2015 12:19 PM (KnC4k)
119
The abortiosn were going to take place regardless. And once the woman has an abortion, she doesn't really get to decide what happens with the aborted fetus. At least she shouldn't have any say.
The Jews were going to be gassed regardless. And once the Jew goes up the chimney, she doesn't really get to decide what happens with her hair and gold teeth. At least she shouldn't have any say.
Yes, I went Godwin. Don't like it? Fuck you.
The Jews were going to be gassed regardless. And once the Jew goes up the chimney, she doesn't really get to decide what happens with her hair and gold teeth. At least she shouldn't have any say.
Yes, I went Godwin. Don't like it? Fuck you.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 12, 2015 12:19 PM (zF6Iw)
120
I guess the airlines that have decided they can't ethically ship a lion's head don't have a problem shipping pieces of unborn children.
Posted by: skinbad at August 12, 2015 12:19 PM (x9Fhw)
121
If you think all life is precious, don't kill that neighbor that bugs you. But don't tell everyone else not to. It's that simple.
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at August 12, 2015 12:19 PM (WjXce)
122
My problem with all of this is it's turning into Todd Akin, Binders full of Women, Sandra Fluke nonsense again. The LIVs will only hear Republicans want to defund planned parenthood and think, oh fuck here we go again.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:03 PM (0LHZx)
If someone does not address it, who will? Shall we just be a bunch of Winnie the Poohs going around with our umbrella murmuring, "Tut! Tut! Looks like rain...?"
I say that being the party that values human life is worth losing elections from here to eternity. There is a higher calling in this world than seeking and obtaining power.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:03 PM (0LHZx)
If someone does not address it, who will? Shall we just be a bunch of Winnie the Poohs going around with our umbrella murmuring, "Tut! Tut! Looks like rain...?"
I say that being the party that values human life is worth losing elections from here to eternity. There is a higher calling in this world than seeking and obtaining power.
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at August 12, 2015 12:20 PM (WAGLQ)
123
But the mammograms, don't forget the mammograms with the equipment we don't have.
It's the thought that counts.
It's the thought that counts.
Posted by: Planned Parenthood at August 12, 2015 12:20 PM (0FSuD)
124
If you think all life is precious, don't have an abortion. But don't tell everyone else how to live. It's really as simple as that.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:15 PM (0LHZx)
That morality is abhorrent. Apply it to anything else (rape, murder, theft, slavery) and you'll understand why.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:15 PM (0LHZx)
That morality is abhorrent. Apply it to anything else (rape, murder, theft, slavery) and you'll understand why.
Posted by: Hal at August 12, 2015 12:20 PM (hmPdt)
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But don't tell everyone else how to live. It's really as simple as that.
Yes, we should also do away with cannibalism laws, we can't tell people how to live. I mean those people were already dead after all. Simple.
But don't tell everyone else how to live. It's really as simple as that.
Yes, we should also do away with cannibalism laws, we can't tell people how to live. I mean those people were already dead after all. Simple.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 12, 2015 12:20 PM (ODxAs)
126
What stem cells are there in a fetal leg that aren't in an adult leg?
Stem cells are basically the structure that humans build around, like a latticework. They are critical for healing and building new body parts.
In a foetus or very newborn baby, the stem cells are kind of "supercharged" where they are able to heal faster and more completely, even replacing small parts. For instance, a newborn can lose a joint in a finger and regrow it. As people age, their stem cells lose this property.
So embryonic stem cells hold some potential for regrowing lost parts and healing which adult ones do not.
However, several independent labs in multiple countries have demonstrated that you can treat adult stem cells to where they will regain these embryonic properties - and the placenta from each birth contains quite a lot of these stem cells.
Stem cells are basically the structure that humans build around, like a latticework. They are critical for healing and building new body parts.
In a foetus or very newborn baby, the stem cells are kind of "supercharged" where they are able to heal faster and more completely, even replacing small parts. For instance, a newborn can lose a joint in a finger and regrow it. As people age, their stem cells lose this property.
So embryonic stem cells hold some potential for regrowing lost parts and healing which adult ones do not.
However, several independent labs in multiple countries have demonstrated that you can treat adult stem cells to where they will regain these embryonic properties - and the placenta from each birth contains quite a lot of these stem cells.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 12:20 PM (39g3+)
127
By the way this is doing nothing to help politically....
https://www.yahoo.com/health/poll-shows-voter-opposition-to-abolishing-slavery-126358919127.html
But hey what the fuck, let's talk about it until election day 1860. What could go wrong?
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/s/
Silly Whig Fucker What that Has No Soul.
https://www.yahoo.com/health/poll-shows-voter-opposition-to-abolishing-slavery-126358919127.html
But hey what the fuck, let's talk about it until election day 1860. What could go wrong?
=================
/s/
Silly Whig Fucker What that Has No Soul.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 12, 2015 12:20 PM (ZvKdv)
Posted by: Marooned Maroon at August 12, 2015 12:21 PM (hTHAs)
129
And by the way I would be happy for the govt to de-fund PP simply because I don't want the govt funding anyone.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:21 PM (0LHZx)
130
But don't tell everyone else how to live. It's really as simple as that.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:15 PM (0LHZx)
You first.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:15 PM (0LHZx)
You first.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Shipping for Atrocities, Monstrosities, and Barbarisms at the Outrage Outlet! at August 12, 2015 12:21 PM (hLRSq)
131
Ah, I see #38 went Godwin before me. Should have read the comments first.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 12, 2015 12:21 PM (zF6Iw)
132
I oppose rape and will never commit one, but I'm not going to tell Ted Bundy how to live his life.
I oppose murder and will never commit one, but I'm not going to tell Richard Kuklinski how to live his life.
I oppose kidnapping and sexual torture and will never do it, but I'm not going to tell Dennis Rader how to live his life.
I oppose cannibalism and will never eat another person, but I'm not going to tell Jeffrey Dahmer how to live his life.
I oppose murder and will never commit one, but I'm not going to tell Richard Kuklinski how to live his life.
I oppose kidnapping and sexual torture and will never do it, but I'm not going to tell Dennis Rader how to live his life.
I oppose cannibalism and will never eat another person, but I'm not going to tell Jeffrey Dahmer how to live his life.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2015 12:21 PM (mx5oN)
Posted by: Planned Parenthood at August 12, 2015 12:21 PM (0FSuD)
134
That's laughable. A woman goes to PP and asks should I get an abortion? That's like me going to Jiffy Lube and asking, do you think my car needs an oil chance? Gee I wonder how often the answer is no...maybe 1 in 100,000? Selling body parts or no, PP will always say yeah get an abortion. It's their business for crying out loud.
Violating HIPPA...OK that should be prosecuted if it's true. But I don't think a woman should have the right to decide what is done with an aborted fetus after the fact.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:10 PM (0LHZx)
Again, reference what was said in the video about even pregnancy tests being potential specimens. Lots of women go to Planned Parenthood because they're told it's a benign and helpful place (even the name, "Planned Parenthood"). When they get in there with a tough decision like this, or when they don't feel supported by others in their family (a very large number of women end up getting abortions because they have a partner pressuring them or because they don't hear any voices in their lives telling them to choose life), they will still look for guidance about what to do. What better place than the clinic where you got your pregnancy test, that has doctors and everything and is called "PLANNED PARENTHOOD"?
The foolishness of the human beings/oil change comparison aside, even your acknowledging that abortions is PP's business is not something that's publicly acknowledged that much (see all the rhetoric about the percentage of their services that are abortion), so i dispute that it's as clear as day to these people.
On the notion that it's silly to ask someone at PP whether you should go through with the abortion: you mean to tell me if someone was thinking about taking a life and felt conflicted and asked for advice, it'd be silly to tell them not to because they've already got the gun in their hand and they've come this far?
Or put it in a different context: someone is overcome by doubts about getting married--a decision sure to have long-term effects on their life (unlike the oil change); would you think them silly to solicit advice on whether to go through with it?
Violating HIPPA...OK that should be prosecuted if it's true. But I don't think a woman should have the right to decide what is done with an aborted fetus after the fact.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:10 PM (0LHZx)
Again, reference what was said in the video about even pregnancy tests being potential specimens. Lots of women go to Planned Parenthood because they're told it's a benign and helpful place (even the name, "Planned Parenthood"). When they get in there with a tough decision like this, or when they don't feel supported by others in their family (a very large number of women end up getting abortions because they have a partner pressuring them or because they don't hear any voices in their lives telling them to choose life), they will still look for guidance about what to do. What better place than the clinic where you got your pregnancy test, that has doctors and everything and is called "PLANNED PARENTHOOD"?
The foolishness of the human beings/oil change comparison aside, even your acknowledging that abortions is PP's business is not something that's publicly acknowledged that much (see all the rhetoric about the percentage of their services that are abortion), so i dispute that it's as clear as day to these people.
On the notion that it's silly to ask someone at PP whether you should go through with the abortion: you mean to tell me if someone was thinking about taking a life and felt conflicted and asked for advice, it'd be silly to tell them not to because they've already got the gun in their hand and they've come this far?
Or put it in a different context: someone is overcome by doubts about getting married--a decision sure to have long-term effects on their life (unlike the oil change); would you think them silly to solicit advice on whether to go through with it?
Posted by: Occam's Safety Razor at August 12, 2015 12:21 PM (qk1L5)
135
116 So this is a new video?
Posted by: donna at August 12, 2015 12:19 PM (hUdMz)
Yes. This is video #6.
Posted by: donna at August 12, 2015 12:19 PM (hUdMz)
Yes. This is video #6.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 12, 2015 12:21 PM (06iOE)
136
This thread is surreal.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 12, 2015 12:22 PM (LA7Cm)
137
Liberals are subhuman animals
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 12, 2015 12:22 PM (gf8BH)
138
That morality is abhorrent. Apply it to anything else (rape, murder, theft, slavery) and you'll understand why.
Posted by: Hal at August 12, 2015 12:20 PM (hmPdt)
_________
LOL. You just proved my point. You keep your morality and I'll keep mine.
Posted by: Hal at August 12, 2015 12:20 PM (hmPdt)
_________
LOL. You just proved my point. You keep your morality and I'll keep mine.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:22 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 12, 2015 12:22 PM (fWAjv)
140
>>And funny how so called conservatives who scream about the govt leaving you alone and letting you live your life in peace are the same ones who want the govt forcing a woman to have a fucking child and raise it for 20 years. Cuz that's the hallmark of freedom.
You have to know how stupid you sound. You're just doing this to kick off an argument, right?
I'm not aware of any conservative that is in favor of the murder of innocents.
You have to know how stupid you sound. You're just doing this to kick off an argument, right?
I'm not aware of any conservative that is in favor of the murder of innocents.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2015 12:23 PM (OGm46)
141
135 116 So this is a new video?
Posted by: donna at August 12, 2015 12:19 PM (hUdMz)
Yes. This is video #6.
Thanks. I can't help but think these videos are building up to something even more horrific...
Posted by: donna at August 12, 2015 12:19 PM (hUdMz)
Yes. This is video #6.
Thanks. I can't help but think these videos are building up to something even more horrific...
Posted by: donna at August 12, 2015 12:23 PM (hUdMz)
142
Cash in the bank.
How much $$ for the three year old??
Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2015 12:19 PM (oqhrS)
How much for the weeeemen? Your weeeemen, I'd like to buy them.
How much $$ for the three year old??
Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2015 12:19 PM (oqhrS)
How much for the weeeemen? Your weeeemen, I'd like to buy them.
Posted by: Blues Brotha at August 12, 2015 12:23 PM (hvf9s)
143
You know how this could end PP? Some sleaze-bag attorney wins a class action lawsuit over lost revenue to women who had their "products of conception" sold out from inside of them. I mention this b/c I'm sure the DOJ won't touch this.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 12, 2015 12:23 PM (5buP8)
144
Royal Oil is correct. PP doesn't ask anyone of those questions. I know because I had a former congregation member who had an abortion about 10 years ago. I didn't know her at the time but it still bothered her later. so she told me. All they said was "Are you comfortable about having an abortion?" and then "do you want to have the abortion here or have a RU pill to do it at home That's it. She was young and was too distraught to think of other possibilities and Planned Profit certainly wasn't going to suggest it
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2015 12:23 PM (OSs/l)
145
Now on the other hand, millions of women are not ready to have kids. And they make the...wait for it.....***CHOICE*** to not have kids.
Funny how that works huh.
Yeah, funny. Be funnier if they made the ***CHOICE*** to keep their fucking legs shut until they are ready or want to have children. But that argument is all misogynistic and chauvinistic and old-fashioned and shit.
Funny how that works huh.
Yeah, funny. Be funnier if they made the ***CHOICE*** to keep their fucking legs shut until they are ready or want to have children. But that argument is all misogynistic and chauvinistic and old-fashioned and shit.
Posted by: chiefjaybob at August 12, 2015 12:24 PM (scUv5)
146
"Oh, come on. Dead is dead, and at that point, what does it matter? "
Except it is too easy accept the idea that it would be beneficial to make a living baby dead, so you can sell the parts. Selling human parts for profit, is only one step removed from selling human parts for food, for profit, which is only one step removed from raising humans as if they were food animals.
There is always a what next.
You do realize that I wrote that sarcastically as a slam against Hillary Clinton, right? (I thought the sockpuppet name would be a dead giveaway...)
Except it is too easy accept the idea that it would be beneficial to make a living baby dead, so you can sell the parts. Selling human parts for profit, is only one step removed from selling human parts for food, for profit, which is only one step removed from raising humans as if they were food animals.
There is always a what next.
You do realize that I wrote that sarcastically as a slam against Hillary Clinton, right? (I thought the sockpuppet name would be a dead giveaway...)
Posted by: David, infamous sockpuppet at August 12, 2015 12:24 PM (1TUV/)
147
31---You have to understand that Moo's attitude is the prevalent attitude in the country.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:00 PM (AkOaV)
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Actually, it is not. Pro-abortion extremists like MooMoo who think nothing of sorting out little arms and lungs to sell to the highest bidder are a small minority.
The fact is that most people who describe themselves as "pro-choice" --- forget the pro-lifers --- would be appalled by this stuff.
Take partial birth abortion. A solid majority of pro-choicers who know what it is oppose it.
The operative clause there is "who know what it is."
THAT is why these videos must not be shown to the general public. THAT is why hardly anyone has heard the name of Kermit Gosnell. THAT is why the MSM talked about the partial-birth abortion debate for years and years without EVER telling people what it is.
It's to keep pro-choice people in the dark --- because the MooMoos know that most pro-choicers are NOT as "progressive" as they are.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:00 PM (AkOaV)
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Actually, it is not. Pro-abortion extremists like MooMoo who think nothing of sorting out little arms and lungs to sell to the highest bidder are a small minority.
The fact is that most people who describe themselves as "pro-choice" --- forget the pro-lifers --- would be appalled by this stuff.
Take partial birth abortion. A solid majority of pro-choicers who know what it is oppose it.
The operative clause there is "who know what it is."
THAT is why these videos must not be shown to the general public. THAT is why hardly anyone has heard the name of Kermit Gosnell. THAT is why the MSM talked about the partial-birth abortion debate for years and years without EVER telling people what it is.
It's to keep pro-choice people in the dark --- because the MooMoos know that most pro-choicers are NOT as "progressive" as they are.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 12, 2015 12:24 PM (cN9Sk)
148
On an unrelated note Claire McCaskill has a story out saying that she won the Republican nomination for Todd Akin so she could beat him in the general election.
http://tinyurl.com/nn98fap
As it turned out, we spent more money for Todd Akin in the last two
weeks of the primary than he spent on his whole primary campaign.
http://tinyurl.com/nn98fap
As it turned out, we spent more money for Todd Akin in the last two
weeks of the primary than he spent on his whole primary campaign.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 12, 2015 12:24 PM (78TbK)
149
That "Historical 70% Pro Abortion" stat Moo moo spewed is a LIE.
It's 19% for abortion anytime-anywhere, and a whopping 51% "under limited circumstances"
So when that 51% sees these videos there's a good chance that, unlike some monsters that spout these kind of lies, they would actually change their minds.....
It's 19% for abortion anytime-anywhere, and a whopping 51% "under limited circumstances"
So when that 51% sees these videos there's a good chance that, unlike some monsters that spout these kind of lies, they would actually change their minds.....
Posted by: Dirty Randy at August 12, 2015 12:24 PM (jjaLl)
150
Having said that, you'll never have a fiscal conservative without most people following socially conservative ways of living.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 12, 2015 12:15 PM (oFCZn)
This.
And the so-called "fi-cons" are blind if they don't see this.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 12, 2015 12:15 PM (oFCZn)
This.
And the so-called "fi-cons" are blind if they don't see this.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 12, 2015 12:24 PM (06iOE)
151
Christ will more than recompense the little ones, and their murderers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUvLWxGKaBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaPGJf7R3EE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUvLWxGKaBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaPGJf7R3EE
Posted by: Doomed, one of the angry at August 12, 2015 12:24 PM (bGLSw)
152
And funny how so called conservatives who scream about the govt leaving you alone and letting you live your life in peace are the same ones who want the govt forcing a woman to have a fucking child and raise it for 20 years. Cuz that's the hallmark of freedom.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:19 PM (0LHZx)
Jackass. The only thing Conservatives want is for it to be illegal to murder children. Fuck you.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:19 PM (0LHZx)
Jackass. The only thing Conservatives want is for it to be illegal to murder children. Fuck you.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 12, 2015 12:24 PM (72D6h)
153
I saw 70 Year Old Vagina open for Tool at the Summit in '96.
Posted by: Countrysquire at August 12, 2015 12:25 PM (eEBON)
154
Think what a burden Tiny Tim was to his parents, with him being crippled and they having such a large family. He should have been aborted. It would have been better for him, the Cratchits, and society.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Shipping for Atrocities, Monstrosities, and Barbarisms at the Outrage Outlet! at August 12, 2015 12:25 PM (hLRSq)
155
You keep your morality and I'll keep mine.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:22 PM (0LHZx)
This could have been pulled from the transcripts of the Nuremberg Trials.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:22 PM (0LHZx)
This could have been pulled from the transcripts of the Nuremberg Trials.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 12, 2015 12:25 PM (Zu3d9)
156
131 Ah, I see #38 went Godwin before me. Should have read the comments first.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 12, 2015 12:21 PM (zF6Iw)
It's the same abhorrent mindset, and it's clear to everyone except the one who holds it.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 12, 2015 12:21 PM (zF6Iw)
It's the same abhorrent mindset, and it's clear to everyone except the one who holds it.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2015 12:25 PM (mx5oN)
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Or put it in a different context: someone is overcome by doubts about getting married--a decision sure to have long-term effects on their life (unlike the oil change); would you think them silly to solicit advice on whether to go through with it?
Posted by: Occam's Safety Razor at August 12, 2015 12:21 PM (qk1L5)
Would you solicit advice from the Producers of BRIDEZILLA? or the Wedding Planner?
Would you ask a Car Dealer if you really need a NEW Car?
Asking someone who has a financial interest in how you make the decision, is not very smart...
Posted by: Occam's Safety Razor at August 12, 2015 12:21 PM (qk1L5)
Would you solicit advice from the Producers of BRIDEZILLA? or the Wedding Planner?
Would you ask a Car Dealer if you really need a NEW Car?
Asking someone who has a financial interest in how you make the decision, is not very smart...
Posted by: BB Wolf at August 12, 2015 12:25 PM (qh617)
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Jackass. The only thing Conservatives want is for it to be illegal to murder children. Fuck you.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 12, 2015 12:24 PM (72D6h)
_________
It is illegal to murder children. But since fetuses aren't children...well...it's not illegal.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 12, 2015 12:24 PM (72D6h)
_________
It is illegal to murder children. But since fetuses aren't children...well...it's not illegal.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (0LHZx)
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The fact is that most people who describe themselves as "pro-choice" --- forget the pro-lifers --- would be appalled by this stuff.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 12, 2015 12:24 PM (cN9Sk)
We're doing our part!
-MSM
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 12, 2015 12:24 PM (cN9Sk)
We're doing our part!
-MSM
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (fWAjv)
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Alright, off to take a chemistry test. Don't let this horror get swept under the rug, everyone.
Posted by: Occam's Safety Razor at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (qk1L5)
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It is illegal to murder children. But since fetuses aren't children...well...it's not illegal.
You fucking ghoul.
You fucking ghoul.
Posted by: Dirty Randy at August 12, 2015 12:27 PM (jjaLl)
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Folks, Hector/Moo Moo/MUMR is not worth your keyboard time. There's no effective difference between any of them.
Inability to think logically, or base analysis on facts, and instead substituting personal fantasies or preferences, is not a curable condition.
This is what has ruined the country (along with cowardly irresponsible lack of correction and opposition from those who know better).
Attempting to reason with this sort of commenter is like trying to have a serious discussion with a not very bright teenager. Don't bother.
Folks, Hector/Moo Moo/MUMR is not worth your keyboard time. There's no effective difference between any of them.
Inability to think logically, or base analysis on facts, and instead substituting personal fantasies or preferences, is not a curable condition.
This is what has ruined the country (along with cowardly irresponsible lack of correction and opposition from those who know better).
Attempting to reason with this sort of commenter is like trying to have a serious discussion with a not very bright teenager. Don't bother.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 12, 2015 12:27 PM (QDnY+)
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If you think all life is precious, don't have an abortion. But don't tell everyone else how to live. It's really as simple as that.
If you think looting black owned businesses in Fergadishu is bad, then don't do it ... But don't tell everyone else how to live. It's really as simple as that.
If you think looting black owned businesses in Fergadishu is bad, then don't do it ... But don't tell everyone else how to live. It's really as simple as that.
Posted by: Adriane the Crime Critic ... at August 12, 2015 12:27 PM (qOsoH)
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I like that the daily signal jumped in and interviewed someone else. It helps to put a lie to the PP tale of these "extreme right wingers" at CMP being deceptive.
Hopefully more alternative to MSM publications will do this.
btw, there is more than enough evidence at this point for prosecutions of PP for violating the law, but not holding my breath.
I like that the daily signal jumped in and interviewed someone else. It helps to put a lie to the PP tale of these "extreme right wingers" at CMP being deceptive.
Hopefully more alternative to MSM publications will do this.
btw, there is more than enough evidence at this point for prosecutions of PP for violating the law, but not holding my breath.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 12, 2015 12:27 PM (ODxAs)
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You keep your morality and I'll keep mine.
O.K. I will jump in he4re
From your posts I'm not entirely sure what your morality is, H/A aside from supporting abortion without qualification (?) and the sale of baby parts.
I don't mean this as an attack. I just don't know.
O.K. I will jump in he4re
From your posts I'm not entirely sure what your morality is, H/A aside from supporting abortion without qualification (?) and the sale of baby parts.
I don't mean this as an attack. I just don't know.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2015 12:28 PM (OSs/l)
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101 If you think all life is precious, don't have an abortion. But don't tell everyone else how to live. It's really as simple as that.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:15 PM (0LHZx)
Okay, and as a libertarian leaning person I can sympathize with that view, and maybe even make peace with it.
But at the very least, I don't want my tax dollars in any way supporting state-sanctioned murder of babies.
Truthfully, I'm not even totally comfortable with the state executing murderers, but I won't lose sleep over it.
An innocent baby though?
I mean, come on.
And the "choice" you spoke of was made by the woman and the man when they had unprotected sex and she got pregnant.
The same "forcing a woman to care for a kid for 20 years" argument can be made pro-infanticide. I don't really see any moral difference between killing a 6 month old fetus in the womb and killing a 6 year old child in the bath tub.
But whatever. I mean, I do agree with one thing -- it is a distraction right now. Because SCOTUS ruled abortion is a constitutional right. There is no way for a president to overrule that short of getting a constitutional amendment passed. So why even talk about it in the context of presidential elections?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:15 PM (0LHZx)
Okay, and as a libertarian leaning person I can sympathize with that view, and maybe even make peace with it.
But at the very least, I don't want my tax dollars in any way supporting state-sanctioned murder of babies.
Truthfully, I'm not even totally comfortable with the state executing murderers, but I won't lose sleep over it.
An innocent baby though?
I mean, come on.
And the "choice" you spoke of was made by the woman and the man when they had unprotected sex and she got pregnant.
The same "forcing a woman to care for a kid for 20 years" argument can be made pro-infanticide. I don't really see any moral difference between killing a 6 month old fetus in the womb and killing a 6 year old child in the bath tub.
But whatever. I mean, I do agree with one thing -- it is a distraction right now. Because SCOTUS ruled abortion is a constitutional right. There is no way for a president to overrule that short of getting a constitutional amendment passed. So why even talk about it in the context of presidential elections?
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:28 PM (AkOaV)
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>>It is illegal to murder children. But since fetuses aren't children...well...it's not illegal.
Tell it to Scott Peterson. Convicted of a double homicide for killing his pregnant wife and the fetus she was carrying.
Tell it to Scott Peterson. Convicted of a double homicide for killing his pregnant wife and the fetus she was carrying.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2015 12:28 PM (OGm46)
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You keep your morality and I'll keep mine.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:22 PM (0LHZx)
Word.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:22 PM (0LHZx)
Word.
Posted by: every pedophile, everywhere at August 12, 2015 12:28 PM (06iOE)
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It is illegal to murder children. But since fetuses aren't children...well...it's not illegal.
Ladies and gentlemen, the face of Nazism.
Ladies and gentlemen, the face of Nazism.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 12, 2015 12:28 PM (wtvvX)
170
So Moo Moo is Huck/Akin?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis
Yes, he is.
He so utterly beclowned himself in a thread a while back about free trade that he felt the need to change his nic.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis
Yes, he is.
He so utterly beclowned himself in a thread a while back about free trade that he felt the need to change his nic.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 12, 2015 12:28 PM (ZCFje)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 12, 2015 12:29 PM (cN9Sk)
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Typical comment stream here....
Comment 1: Fucking FSA and all the assholes on welfare
Comment 2: Fucking single mothers with 5 kids by 5 baby daddies getting all that welfare. The breakdown of the family is destroying this country.
Comment 3: It's should be a crime if a poor, uneducated, single woman even thinks of getting an abortion
Comment 1: Fucking FSA and all the assholes on welfare
Comment 2: Fucking single mothers with 5 kids by 5 baby daddies getting all that welfare. The breakdown of the family is destroying this country.
Comment 3: It's should be a crime if a poor, uneducated, single woman even thinks of getting an abortion
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:29 PM (0LHZx)
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Attempting to reason with this sort of commenter is like trying to have a serious discussion with a not very bright teenager. Don't bother.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 12, 2015 12:27 PM (QDnY+)
Actually, I would prefer talking to a dim teenager over Moo Moo.
Attempting to reason with this sort of commenter is like trying to have a serious discussion with a not very bright teenager. Don't bother.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 12, 2015 12:27 PM (QDnY+)
Actually, I would prefer talking to a dim teenager over Moo Moo.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 12, 2015 12:29 PM (n6Nt0)
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If you read about the details of the Gosnell case, why, it's Margaret Sanger's dream come true.
The vast majority of his cases were young Black American women, some of them just teenagers, pregnant out of wedlock. In some cases, their mother or aunt or female relative brought them in, and they were forced against their will to have an abortion. Some pretty late terms.
Gosnell joked about one being almost big enough to walk down to the bus stop.
So yeah, it's always a free choice. The mother always knows what she is going in for. Septic infections which can kill from botched abortions (which almost happened to someone I knew a long time ago). Forced procedures. Bloody messy death. Thank goodness this wasn't in the suburbs!
This is what Roe v. Wade has wrought. European countries don't have as permissive abortion laws as the US does. This is so grotesque most people just want to turn their heads and look away. They don't want to get involved.
The vast majority of his cases were young Black American women, some of them just teenagers, pregnant out of wedlock. In some cases, their mother or aunt or female relative brought them in, and they were forced against their will to have an abortion. Some pretty late terms.
Gosnell joked about one being almost big enough to walk down to the bus stop.
So yeah, it's always a free choice. The mother always knows what she is going in for. Septic infections which can kill from botched abortions (which almost happened to someone I knew a long time ago). Forced procedures. Bloody messy death. Thank goodness this wasn't in the suburbs!
This is what Roe v. Wade has wrought. European countries don't have as permissive abortion laws as the US does. This is so grotesque most people just want to turn their heads and look away. They don't want to get involved.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at August 12, 2015 12:29 PM (+1T7c)
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Some random meathead:
Yep, bet it was a very interesting meeting. As we've seen in the polls, Cruz has absolutely no shot at winning the primaries unless something very drastic happens.
But if he joined with Trump, potentially as VP, holy fuck watch out.
A rock ribbed conservative and Hispanic is on the same ticket!!??
Answers two questions for Trump detractors.
I've donated to Cruz and went to one of his events, he just doesn't have it I think to lead a ticket. I think he knows that too. What a brilliant guy.
Yep, bet it was a very interesting meeting. As we've seen in the polls, Cruz has absolutely no shot at winning the primaries unless something very drastic happens.
But if he joined with Trump, potentially as VP, holy fuck watch out.
A rock ribbed conservative and Hispanic is on the same ticket!!??
Answers two questions for Trump detractors.
I've donated to Cruz and went to one of his events, he just doesn't have it I think to lead a ticket. I think he knows that too. What a brilliant guy.
Posted by: prescient11 at August 12, 2015 12:29 PM (q5APL)
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@141: PP already warned the media to downplay any videos that surface where PP reps admit they enjoy carrying out Margaret Sanger's plans, if you know what I mean. So that's probably yet to come.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 12, 2015 12:29 PM (LuDcD)
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But since fetuses aren't children...well...it's not illegal.
They are children. Each has a totally unique genetic makeup. As you do. Not the mother's, not the father's. An individual's. But you probably already know that and don't care.
Repent while you can.
They are children. Each has a totally unique genetic makeup. As you do. Not the mother's, not the father's. An individual's. But you probably already know that and don't care.
Repent while you can.
Posted by: Doomed, one of the angry at August 12, 2015 12:29 PM (bGLSw)
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You keep your morality and I'll keep mine.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:22 PM (0LHZx)
Preach it, brother.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:22 PM (0LHZx)
Preach it, brother.
Posted by: Charles Manson at August 12, 2015 12:29 PM (06iOE)
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It is illegal to murder children. But since fetuses aren't children...well...it's not illegal.
That's it, I'm out. This is the same word-game that these despicable things pulling babies apart play. Now he's just trolling, and I've read enough.
That's it, I'm out. This is the same word-game that these despicable things pulling babies apart play. Now he's just trolling, and I've read enough.
Posted by: chiefjaybob at August 12, 2015 12:29 PM (scUv5)
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>>>Obama, burdened with a baby.
I wouldn't want my faughters punished with, uh... uh, with a clump of cells.
I wouldn't want my faughters punished with, uh... uh, with a clump of cells.
Posted by: Barack Obama at August 12, 2015 12:29 PM (IESRt)
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Blacks aren't really people, so it's OK to own them.
Jews aren't really people, so it's OK to gas them.
Jews aren't really people, so it's OK to gas them.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2015 12:29 PM (mx5oN)
Posted by: Planned Parenthood at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM (0FSuD)
183
It is illegal to murder children. But since fetuses aren't children...well...it's not illegal.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (0LHZx)
It is illegal to murder people. But since Jews and Slavs aren't people. . .well. . .it's not illegal.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (0LHZx)
It is illegal to murder people. But since Jews and Slavs aren't people. . .well. . .it's not illegal.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM (zF6Iw)
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Yeah, funny. Be funnier if they made the ***CHOICE*** to keep their fucking legs shut until they are ready or want to have children. But that argument is all misogynistic and chauvinistic and old-fashioned and shit.
Posted by: chiefjaybob at August 12, 2015 12:24 PM (scUv5)
Want to kill Planned Parenthood's revenue stream?
Four little words...
Male Birth Control Pills.
Publicize the damn things as '10 dollars a month for fun now, vs 18 years of child support'....
I'd bet abortions would decrease by at least 50%...
Posted by: chiefjaybob at August 12, 2015 12:24 PM (scUv5)
Want to kill Planned Parenthood's revenue stream?
Four little words...
Male Birth Control Pills.
Publicize the damn things as '10 dollars a month for fun now, vs 18 years of child support'....
I'd bet abortions would decrease by at least 50%...
Posted by: BB Wolf at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM (qh617)
185
It is illegal to murder children. But since fetuses aren't children...well...it's not illegal.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (0LHZx)
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Better recheck your facts there snuffy.
Several states have laws on the books concerning causing the death of unborn children.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (0LHZx)
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Better recheck your facts there snuffy.
Several states have laws on the books concerning causing the death of unborn children.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM (8XRCm)
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It is illegal to murder children. But since fetuses aren't children...well...it's not illegal.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (0LHZx)
A legal distinction, but not a moral one. That's the entire point of the pro-life movement, to bring them in line.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (0LHZx)
A legal distinction, but not a moral one. That's the entire point of the pro-life movement, to bring them in line.
Posted by: Hal at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM (hmPdt)
187
Mr. strawman is setting himself on fire.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM (wtvvX)
188
I stay out of these threads normally, but:
"product of conception technician"
WTF, you know if you have to be that Orwellian with the language of what you're doing, maybe you should reexamine what it is you're really doing.
"product of conception technician"
WTF, you know if you have to be that Orwellian with the language of what you're doing, maybe you should reexamine what it is you're really doing.
Posted by: brak at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM (Tj+s6)
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It is illegal to murder children. But since fetuses aren't children...well...it's not illegal.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (0LHZx)
Moo, as a millionaire I'm sure you studied latin in college. What does "fetus" mean in Latin?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (0LHZx)
Moo, as a millionaire I'm sure you studied latin in college. What does "fetus" mean in Latin?
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM (AkOaV)
190
G-D it stinks in here
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM (gf8BH)
191
From your posts I'm not entirely sure what your morality is, H/A aside from supporting abortion without qualification (?) and the sale of baby parts.
I don't mean this as an attack. I just don't know.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2015 12:28 PM (OSs/l)
____________
My morality is I will let you live your life, you let me live mine. As long as you don't hurt anyone, I don't give a fuck what you do.
I don't mean this as an attack. I just don't know.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2015 12:28 PM (OSs/l)
____________
My morality is I will let you live your life, you let me live mine. As long as you don't hurt anyone, I don't give a fuck what you do.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2015 12:31 PM (oqhrS)
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178 You keep your morality and I'll keep mine.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:22 PM (0LHZx)
This is what I keep saying.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:22 PM (0LHZx)
This is what I keep saying.
Posted by: Roman Polanski at August 12, 2015 12:31 PM (06iOE)
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A legal distinction, but not a moral one. That's the entire point of the pro-life movement, to bring them in line.
Posted by: Hal at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM (hmPdt)
Or a factual one.
Posted by: Hal at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM (hmPdt)
Or a factual one.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2015 12:31 PM (mx5oN)
195
Yeah, disgusting and most likely criminal actions regarding the babies.
But I do want to talk about which babies. The underage girls getting an abortion and PP does not refer a criminal charge? ALL doctors, teachers, counselors and law enforcement are MANDATED REPORTERS of child abuse.
How in the name of all that is holy are they getting away with this -- okay, I know that total D party funding excuses most lawbreaking, but we do have stringent laws on the books.
How stupid and naive of me.
But I do want to talk about which babies. The underage girls getting an abortion and PP does not refer a criminal charge? ALL doctors, teachers, counselors and law enforcement are MANDATED REPORTERS of child abuse.
How in the name of all that is holy are they getting away with this -- okay, I know that total D party funding excuses most lawbreaking, but we do have stringent laws on the books.
How stupid and naive of me.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 12, 2015 12:31 PM (MIKMs)
196
I have friends whom I differ with politically, sometimes vehemently. Even so, I try to see the humanity in them and get along with them, in the worlds of the apostle Paul, "as far as it depends on me".
This, to me, is the dividing line. I've already told one person, "If you can't see that this is evil...or you simply don't care that it is...I can no longer, in good conscience, remain friends with you." I'm sure they won't be the last.
This, to me, is the dividing line. I've already told one person, "If you can't see that this is evil...or you simply don't care that it is...I can no longer, in good conscience, remain friends with you." I'm sure they won't be the last.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 12, 2015 12:31 PM (4X5NS)
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Want to kill Planned Parenthood's revenue stream?
Four little words...
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"We found gay genes"??
Bet your ass it would become illegal tomorrow to abort based on sexual orientation.
Four little words...
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"We found gay genes"??
Bet your ass it would become illegal tomorrow to abort based on sexual orientation.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 12, 2015 12:31 PM (8XRCm)
198
At least she shouldn't have any say.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 11:55 AM (0LHZx)
Federal law disagrees, on multiple accounts.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 11:55 AM (0LHZx)
Federal law disagrees, on multiple accounts.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 12, 2015 12:32 PM (tM4uk)
199
As long as you don't hurt anyone, I don't give a fuck what you do.
Is chopping someone up hurting them?
Asking for a friend.
Is chopping someone up hurting them?
Asking for a friend.
Posted by: product of conception technician at August 12, 2015 12:32 PM (ZtFr+)
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The consent part doesn't surprise me, not at this point. Too much money is at stake for them - it's clear they're more in the organ-harvesting business than the women's health business w/abortions.
Funny that I just got back from the DMV. I had to update my address, and they asked again if I wanted to be an organ donor. I declined. When I got the form to review, they misspelled my new address ('natch) AND had a 'Y' for organ donor. Sent it back for correction, address is fixed, Organ Donor is now blank. Sent it back again to get it to 'N'. After the PP stuff and Obamacare, let's just say I'm a little unsettled by the DMV's attempt to make me an organ donor.
Funny that I just got back from the DMV. I had to update my address, and they asked again if I wanted to be an organ donor. I declined. When I got the form to review, they misspelled my new address ('natch) AND had a 'Y' for organ donor. Sent it back for correction, address is fixed, Organ Donor is now blank. Sent it back again to get it to 'N'. After the PP stuff and Obamacare, let's just say I'm a little unsettled by the DMV's attempt to make me an organ donor.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2015 12:32 PM (NOIQH)
201
If you read the Gosnell grand jury indictment, he had several 'close calls' where he left legs / arms / pieces of the torso in womens uterus's, and was not skilled enough to remove them.
I couldn't read it.
I honestly did not know about this aspect.
I couldn't read it.
I honestly did not know about this aspect.
Posted by: Lea at August 12, 2015 12:32 PM (lIU4e)
202
As long as you don't hurt anyone, I don't give a fuck what you do.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM (0LHZx)
Unless that someone is an unborn baby, then you can rip it apart alive and sell the organs to the highest bidder.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM (0LHZx)
Unless that someone is an unborn baby, then you can rip it apart alive and sell the organs to the highest bidder.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2015 12:32 PM (mx5oN)
203
My morality is I will let you live your life, you let me live mine. As long as you don't hurt anyone, I don't give a fuck what you do.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM (0LHZx)
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Fair enough...... but stabbing scissors into the necks of partially born children qualifies as "hurting someone".
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM (0LHZx)
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Fair enough...... but stabbing scissors into the necks of partially born children qualifies as "hurting someone".
Posted by: fixerupper at August 12, 2015 12:32 PM (8XRCm)
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Many is the time moo moo has asked a pregnant woman when here unviable lump of parasitic tissue is due. He frequently wonders what the sex of an unborn non human foetus is.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 12:32 PM (39g3+)
205
Is this Huck/Akin creature a thanatophilic psychopath or merely a button-pushing troll? Either way, evil.
Posted by: Doomed, getting angrier at August 12, 2015 12:32 PM (bGLSw)
206
178 You keep your morality and I'll keep mine.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:22 PM (0LHZx)
This times 1000.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:22 PM (0LHZx)
This times 1000.
Posted by: Harry Reid, pederast at August 12, 2015 12:32 PM (06iOE)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 12, 2015 12:33 PM (LA7Cm)
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>>My morality is I will let you live your life, you let me live mine. As long as you don't hurt anyone, I don't give a fuck what you do.
Pro-tip, killing a fetus is hurting someone. At least according to CA and many other states. Just not when it comes to abortion which makes total sense.
Pro-tip, killing a fetus is hurting someone. At least according to CA and many other states. Just not when it comes to abortion which makes total sense.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2015 12:33 PM (OGm46)
209
197: Hell, they'd make it mandatory to carry gay babies to term.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 12, 2015 12:33 PM (LuDcD)
210
Comment 1: Fucking FSA and all the assholes on welfare
Comment 2: Fucking single mothers with 5 kids by 5 baby daddies getting all that welfare. The breakdown of the family is destroying this country.
Comment 3: It's should be a crime if a poor, uneducated, single woman even thinks of getting an abortion
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:29 PM (0LHZx)
But only a eugenicist would draw the line from "we don't want so many people on welfare" to "...so we should kill black babies before they are born".
Do you not see that?
I mean, if that argument were made in any other context, it would be considered incredibly racist.
Comment 2: Fucking single mothers with 5 kids by 5 baby daddies getting all that welfare. The breakdown of the family is destroying this country.
Comment 3: It's should be a crime if a poor, uneducated, single woman even thinks of getting an abortion
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:29 PM (0LHZx)
But only a eugenicist would draw the line from "we don't want so many people on welfare" to "...so we should kill black babies before they are born".
Do you not see that?
I mean, if that argument were made in any other context, it would be considered incredibly racist.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:33 PM (AkOaV)
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PP already warned the media to downplay any videos that surface where PP reps admit they enjoy carrying out Margaret Sanger's plans, if you know what I mean. So that's probably yet to come.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 12, 2015 12:29 PM (LuDcD)
I just found out the other day that one of my favorite cartoonists, Peter Bagge, published a hagiography of Sanger. I've since thrown out all my collections of his material.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 12, 2015 12:29 PM (LuDcD)
I just found out the other day that one of my favorite cartoonists, Peter Bagge, published a hagiography of Sanger. I've since thrown out all my collections of his material.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 12, 2015 12:34 PM (zF6Iw)
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Posted by: Doomed, getting angrier at August 12, 2015 12:32 PM (bGLSw)
It's our old friend Mr Moo Moo.
I don't know if we'd call him a troll... i think I'll have to consult the style guide on that one.
But he's not a classic troll like Hector or MUMR (who I haven't seen in a while...).
It's our old friend Mr Moo Moo.
I don't know if we'd call him a troll... i think I'll have to consult the style guide on that one.
But he's not a classic troll like Hector or MUMR (who I haven't seen in a while...).
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:34 PM (AkOaV)
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Again, just a guess.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:03 PM (AkOaV)
Cell cultures are bad late stage tests. Even the newer mixed cultures can't model the complexity of a living being.
FDA rules still require 2 animal tests prior to human trials with few exceptions (they don't tell you which two though, so you get a lot of "mice" and "door mice" which are actually different species.)
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:03 PM (AkOaV)
Cell cultures are bad late stage tests. Even the newer mixed cultures can't model the complexity of a living being.
FDA rules still require 2 animal tests prior to human trials with few exceptions (they don't tell you which two though, so you get a lot of "mice" and "door mice" which are actually different species.)
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 12, 2015 12:35 PM (tM4uk)
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But only a eugenicist would draw the line from "we don't want so many people on welfare" to "...so we should kill black babies before they are born".
Do you not see that?
I mean, if that argument were made in any other context, it would be considered incredibly racist.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:33 PM (AkOaV)
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But I'm not saying women must get abortions. I'm saying women should have a choice as to whether or not to get an abortion.
Huge difference, no?
Do you not see that?
I mean, if that argument were made in any other context, it would be considered incredibly racist.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:33 PM (AkOaV)
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But I'm not saying women must get abortions. I'm saying women should have a choice as to whether or not to get an abortion.
Huge difference, no?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:35 PM (0LHZx)
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Unfortunately, we all know that left wingers can admit, on film, to breaking the law and nothing happens. Maybe Mitch McConnell will hold another show vote.
Posted by: Old Hob at August 12, 2015 12:35 PM (FFIoe)
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Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:29 PM (0LHZx)
As I said, every abortion is a future tax cut: look at all the welfare money, education money, and eventually prison money we aren't spending with every abortion we have. If we use abortion correctly we can get rid of all of the undesirable elements of our population in a couple of generations.
/s
As I said, every abortion is a future tax cut: look at all the welfare money, education money, and eventually prison money we aren't spending with every abortion we have. If we use abortion correctly we can get rid of all of the undesirable elements of our population in a couple of generations.
/s
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Shipping for Atrocities, Monstrosities, and Barbarisms at the Outrage Outlet! at August 12, 2015 12:36 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:36 PM (0LHZx)
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It should be illegal to give away parts of anyone KILLED, whether they are killed through just execution, abortion, or euthanasia.
(Forget selling.)
Period.
There should never be any conflict of interest, actual or potential.
(Forget selling.)
Period.
There should never be any conflict of interest, actual or potential.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 12, 2015 12:36 PM (cN9Sk)
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183 It is illegal to murder children. But since fetuses aren't children...well...it's not illegal.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (0LHZx)
It is illegal to murder people. But since Jews, Slavs, Greeks, Italians, Portuguese, Spanish, Turks, etc., are not people, it's not illegal.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (0LHZx)
It is illegal to murder people. But since Jews, Slavs, Greeks, Italians, Portuguese, Spanish, Turks, etc., are not people, it's not illegal.
Posted by: Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood at August 12, 2015 12:36 PM (06iOE)
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From personal experience, these same people will grow livid and foaming at the thought of you taking your dog to the vet after she escapes the yard in heat and gets impregnated. Next time you meet one, run that hypothetical by them and watch the reaction you get. But the logical chain from dog to human will likely remain disconnected in their mind, on purpose.
Hypocrites, all.
Hypocrites, all.
Posted by: Doomed, getting angrier at August 12, 2015 12:37 PM (bGLSw)
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I couldn't read it.
I honestly did not know about this aspect.
Posted by: Lea at August 12, 2015 12:32 PM (lIU4e)
Oh yeah. Women were showing up at the local ER with all kinds of STDs, infections, "fetal remains" left inside, etc. from Gosnells butcher shop.
And the hospital, as mandatory reporters, reported a few of the cases, but the vast majority were not reported.
But at one point, a Doctor at the local hospital hand delivered a letter to the state board of medicine or whatnot saying essentially "this dude is reusing plastic, one time use tools and causing all kinds of STDs, and he's really a butcher and is sending women home with pieces of babies left in their uterus, he's breaching womens internal organs with his (dirty) tools, and he sucks as a doctor."
and the State Board buried it.
The real illuminating thing from the grand jury report was not what Gosnell was doing, it was how everyone around him was covering for him. As if it was just "business as usual" which is what I think freaked out so many people.
I honestly did not know about this aspect.
Posted by: Lea at August 12, 2015 12:32 PM (lIU4e)
Oh yeah. Women were showing up at the local ER with all kinds of STDs, infections, "fetal remains" left inside, etc. from Gosnells butcher shop.
And the hospital, as mandatory reporters, reported a few of the cases, but the vast majority were not reported.
But at one point, a Doctor at the local hospital hand delivered a letter to the state board of medicine or whatnot saying essentially "this dude is reusing plastic, one time use tools and causing all kinds of STDs, and he's really a butcher and is sending women home with pieces of babies left in their uterus, he's breaching womens internal organs with his (dirty) tools, and he sucks as a doctor."
and the State Board buried it.
The real illuminating thing from the grand jury report was not what Gosnell was doing, it was how everyone around him was covering for him. As if it was just "business as usual" which is what I think freaked out so many people.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:37 PM (AkOaV)
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But I'm not saying women must get abortions. I'm saying women should have a choice as to whether or not to get an abortion.
Huge difference, no?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:35 PM (0LHZx)
FEED ME
Huge difference, no?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:35 PM (0LHZx)
FEED ME
Posted by: Moloch at August 12, 2015 12:38 PM (7YlUk)
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>MUMR smeared poop on the rec room computer and lost privileges.
Posted by: eleven at August 12, 2015 12:38 PM (ykfyK)
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70% of the public is fine with abortion. Decades of polling have shown this.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx
So when the GOP starts talking about de-funding abortions, it's a
losing proposition. And yet year after year, it comes up as an issue.
So yeah, might as well nominate the HUCK/AKIN ticket since this is what the man on the street thinks of the GOP anyway.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:06 PM (0LHZx)
In which case, I welcome the destruction of the country.
You are already destitute and do not yet know it, but your wickedness will bring you financial ruin soon enough. It is well deserved. May your name (whatever it is) become a byword for hubris unto utter self-destruction.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx
So when the GOP starts talking about de-funding abortions, it's a
losing proposition. And yet year after year, it comes up as an issue.
So yeah, might as well nominate the HUCK/AKIN ticket since this is what the man on the street thinks of the GOP anyway.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:06 PM (0LHZx)
In which case, I welcome the destruction of the country.
You are already destitute and do not yet know it, but your wickedness will bring you financial ruin soon enough. It is well deserved. May your name (whatever it is) become a byword for hubris unto utter self-destruction.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at August 12, 2015 12:38 PM (6JL3d)
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Wow There really are WhaleWolves??
Wow There really are WhaleWolves??
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 12, 2015 12:39 PM (iQIUe)
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Posted by: eleven at August 12, 2015 12:38 PM (ykfyK)
I miss the edits of his comments though. Some of them were pretty damned funny.
I miss the edits of his comments though. Some of them were pretty damned funny.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 12, 2015 12:39 PM (Zu3d9)
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Well I see we have a "The Political Hat", the "The Coat" but no "The Pants".
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at August 12, 2015 12:39 PM (x3GpS)
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At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they hand out "birth control
pills" that are just placebos in order to get more girls pregnant and
ready for the harvest...
==========
Close.
The hand out the cheapest, least pure, highest failure rate pills on the market.
They farm these women like cattle.
They expect them to get pregnant; they want them to get pregnant.
They start in grade school, "sex education" where they make sex a taboo topic--not to be discussed with mom and dad, no! Come talk to us, we are the experts, we are here to help.
And when it's time, when you know the time is right for you to have sex, come to us--we have free condoms (that fail over 33% of the time) and free birth control pills (that also have a high failure rate). And we won't tell mom or dad that you're having sex.
And--opps!--when you get pregnant when you're 12 'cause you're on our free birth control pills (accidents happen, he, he!), you know you can come to us and we will take care of that clump of cells and you'll be back at cheer practice on Monday.
And by the time you are 25, we expect and calculate you will have had between 3 and 5 abortions.
Each little 8 year-old-girl at those innocent sex education class is worth $1500 to $2500 minimum in abortion fees to them; and now we're finding out there's another $2,000 or so in the "parts." And if they can get her late-term--double those fees.
^^^^
That is their business model. I've have heard it testified to by more than one former PP director.
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they hand out "birth control
pills" that are just placebos in order to get more girls pregnant and
ready for the harvest...
==========
Close.
The hand out the cheapest, least pure, highest failure rate pills on the market.
They farm these women like cattle.
They expect them to get pregnant; they want them to get pregnant.
They start in grade school, "sex education" where they make sex a taboo topic--not to be discussed with mom and dad, no! Come talk to us, we are the experts, we are here to help.
And when it's time, when you know the time is right for you to have sex, come to us--we have free condoms (that fail over 33% of the time) and free birth control pills (that also have a high failure rate). And we won't tell mom or dad that you're having sex.
And--opps!--when you get pregnant when you're 12 'cause you're on our free birth control pills (accidents happen, he, he!), you know you can come to us and we will take care of that clump of cells and you'll be back at cheer practice on Monday.
And by the time you are 25, we expect and calculate you will have had between 3 and 5 abortions.
Each little 8 year-old-girl at those innocent sex education class is worth $1500 to $2500 minimum in abortion fees to them; and now we're finding out there's another $2,000 or so in the "parts." And if they can get her late-term--double those fees.
^^^^
That is their business model. I've have heard it testified to by more than one former PP director.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 12, 2015 12:39 PM (ZvKdv)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at August 12, 2015 12:40 PM (n6Nt0)
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183 It is illegal to murder children. But since fetuses aren't children...well...it's not illegal.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (0LHZx)
Actually, it IS murder in most States for anyone EXCEPT the Mother to kill a Fetus...
Thus, argument, refuted.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (0LHZx)
Actually, it IS murder in most States for anyone EXCEPT the Mother to kill a Fetus...
Thus, argument, refuted.
Posted by: BB Wolf at August 12, 2015 12:40 PM (qh617)
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I'm voting Huck/Akin 2016 in 2016!
Posted by: Hillary Clinton - Margaret Sanger Award Winner at August 12, 2015 12:40 PM (Yrjee)
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But I'm not saying women must get abortions. I'm saying women should have a choice as to whether or not to get an abortion.
Huge difference, no?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:35 PM (0LHZx)
So "pressuring women to get abortions" or even "putting abortion clinics in black neighborhoods then advertising to black women through sex ed classes at local schools" with the goal of killing off "unwanted" black babies is okay.
but if it was mandatory, its not?
So you're fine with Sangers original mission for PP: sterilizing black men and women? They paid them for the sterilization with money raised from white Democrats who hated black people and wanted fewer of them.
Then, of course, they moved on to abortion (a practice that even Sanger opposed as too brutal) and started getting the black people to pay for it instead of asking white people to pay for it.
Huge difference, no?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:35 PM (0LHZx)
So "pressuring women to get abortions" or even "putting abortion clinics in black neighborhoods then advertising to black women through sex ed classes at local schools" with the goal of killing off "unwanted" black babies is okay.
but if it was mandatory, its not?
So you're fine with Sangers original mission for PP: sterilizing black men and women? They paid them for the sterilization with money raised from white Democrats who hated black people and wanted fewer of them.
Then, of course, they moved on to abortion (a practice that even Sanger opposed as too brutal) and started getting the black people to pay for it instead of asking white people to pay for it.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:41 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Bigby's Cellphone Finger at August 12, 2015 12:41 PM (9dwWF)
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My morality is I will let you live your life, you let me live mine. As long as you don't hurt anyone, I don't give a fuck what you do.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM (0LHZx)
That sounds nice and reasonable in passing, but it is a failing way to live. Humans are notorious justifiers. That is, what constitutes "hurting anyone" is such a fungible qualification that it's almost meaningless.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM (0LHZx)
That sounds nice and reasonable in passing, but it is a failing way to live. Humans are notorious justifiers. That is, what constitutes "hurting anyone" is such a fungible qualification that it's almost meaningless.
Posted by: Hal at August 12, 2015 12:41 PM (hmPdt)
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Does anyone when and if that crowd-sourced film about Gosnell is going to be released?
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 12, 2015 12:41 PM (06iOE)
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Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:36 PM (0LHZx)
Go away you murder loving amoral ghoul.
Go away you murder loving amoral ghoul.
Posted by: buzzion at August 12, 2015 12:42 PM (zt+N6)
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Defunding Planned Parenthood = limiting women's choices, War on Women!
Taking women's tissue and selling it without their knowledge and against their explicit wishes = empowering for women
Taking women's tissue and selling it without their knowledge and against their explicit wishes = empowering for women
Posted by: gates at August 12, 2015 12:42 PM (gJAok)
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LOL. You just proved my point. You keep your morality and I'll keep my total absence of one.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:42 PM (Spluw)
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And the FDA requires tests to approve a drug, so... What better way to test a drugs effects on a liver then to use an actual human liver?
Again, just a guess.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:03 PM (AkOaV)
You kind of have to use a live liver. You could a removed liver full of cyanide, and it's not going to get any deader.
Again, just a guess.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:03 PM (AkOaV)
You kind of have to use a live liver. You could a removed liver full of cyanide, and it's not going to get any deader.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 12, 2015 12:42 PM (IAqcp)
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I miss the edits of his comments though. Some of them were pretty damned funny.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
"I braid my pubes because, pretty" damn near had me wrecking my truck from laughing when I read that.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
"I braid my pubes because, pretty" damn near had me wrecking my truck from laughing when I read that.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2015 12:43 PM (oqhrS)
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231 183 It is illegal to murder children. But since fetuses aren't children...well...it's not illegal.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (0LHZx)
So when DOES it become a child? When it leaves the hospital?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (0LHZx)
So when DOES it become a child? When it leaves the hospital?
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 12, 2015 12:43 PM (06iOE)
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They farm these women like cattle.
The apostle Peter wrote that there would be false teachers, motivated by greed, who would seek to "make merchandise" of his readers. Peter did not have something this inhumanly barbaric in mind but, even out of context, it fits.
The apostle Peter wrote that there would be false teachers, motivated by greed, who would seek to "make merchandise" of his readers. Peter did not have something this inhumanly barbaric in mind but, even out of context, it fits.
Posted by: Doomed, awaiting the End at August 12, 2015 12:43 PM (bGLSw)
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Stop feeding the MooMoo.
Posted by: dantesed at August 12, 2015 12:43 PM (88xKn)
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There will be a special hell for those with the job title of "product of conception technician".
Posted by: dogfish
aka: Priests of Moloch.
Posted by: dogfish
aka: Priests of Moloch.
Posted by: Moderate Salami -- Cecil the Dead Lion for Prez 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:43 PM (/Ho8c)
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HUCK / AKIN
You could care. You could be a voice of moral sanity and care.
That you choose not to simply because of what you think others believes says more about what damned rat you are than what "zealots" you think we may be.
When this is over, we will have been vindicated. And you will be revealed as a coward.
You could care. You could be a voice of moral sanity and care.
That you choose not to simply because of what you think others believes says more about what damned rat you are than what "zealots" you think we may be.
When this is over, we will have been vindicated. And you will be revealed as a coward.
Posted by: Rick Tingles at August 12, 2015 12:43 PM (j2ei0)
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It is illegal to murder humans. But since slaves aren't human...well...it's not illegal.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:43 PM (Spluw)
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Procurement Technician
My but aren't these ghouls kind to themselves.
Posted by: eleven at August 12, 2015 12:34 PM (ykfyK)
The wonderful things about euphemisms, is euphemisms are wonderful things...
My but aren't these ghouls kind to themselves.
Posted by: eleven at August 12, 2015 12:34 PM (ykfyK)
The wonderful things about euphemisms, is euphemisms are wonderful things...
Posted by: LizLem, paraphrasing Tigger at August 12, 2015 12:44 PM (hvf9s)
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So when DOES it become a child? When it is carried from the hospital?
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 12, 2015 12:43 PM (06iOE)
For as long as the mother doesn't want to kill it, it's a child. Once she wants to kill it, it's not.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 12, 2015 12:43 PM (06iOE)
For as long as the mother doesn't want to kill it, it's a child. Once she wants to kill it, it's not.
Posted by: Peter Singer at August 12, 2015 12:44 PM (mx5oN)
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Sorry, this whole thing is so disgusting re these baby body parts brokers I almost don't want to talk about it.
Still why I never watched the Passion or Schindler's List.
I don't feel like being depressed for six hours.
Still why I never watched the Passion or Schindler's List.
I don't feel like being depressed for six hours.
Posted by: prescient11 at August 12, 2015 12:44 PM (q5APL)
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My morality is I will let you live your life, you let me live mine. As long as you don't hurt anyone, I don't give a fuck what you do.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM (0LHZx)
And Moo, for the record -- if that's the world we lived in, I could accept that some people kill their babies and look the other way.
If I truly was free to do whatever I wanted, and we truly lived in a "live and let live" world, well... I could live with it.
But we don't. At all. The only time the statist say "live and let live" is when it comes to pot and abortions.
For everything else, you need 55 permits, permission from the local zoning board, donations to the right pols, and thousands of dollars in fees.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM (0LHZx)
And Moo, for the record -- if that's the world we lived in, I could accept that some people kill their babies and look the other way.
If I truly was free to do whatever I wanted, and we truly lived in a "live and let live" world, well... I could live with it.
But we don't. At all. The only time the statist say "live and let live" is when it comes to pot and abortions.
For everything else, you need 55 permits, permission from the local zoning board, donations to the right pols, and thousands of dollars in fees.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:44 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 12, 2015 12:45 PM (qCMvj)
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So when DOES it become a child? When it leaves the hospital?
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 12, 2015 12:43 PM (06iOE)
In Moo's case, I think it is when it starts to pay taxes. Before then it is a burden on society, part of the surplus population.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 12, 2015 12:43 PM (06iOE)
In Moo's case, I think it is when it starts to pay taxes. Before then it is a burden on society, part of the surplus population.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Shipping for Atrocities, Monstrosities, and Barbarisms at the Outrage Outlet! at August 12, 2015 12:46 PM (hLRSq)
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Yes, selling the body parts of the aborted is disgusting, but so is touching tomato slices and shaking hands with a sweaty man. Should we outlaw BLTs and football?
Posted by: Idiot at August 12, 2015 12:46 PM (hiT/m)
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Don't you peasants realize that the wonderful, well meaning MFM will fail to see how wonderful I am because of you!?!
Walter Duranty promised me that they would give us glowing coverage if you scum learned your place!
Walter Duranty promised me that they would give us glowing coverage if you scum learned your place!
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:46 PM (Spluw)
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That is, what constitutes "hurting anyone" is such a fungible qualification that it's almost meaningless.
Usually people who say they live by Alistair Crowley's dictum mean "immediate, tangible, physical harm that I can easily perceive" when they say "hurting anyone" but then when feelings get involved the definition starts sliding as you note.
Ask any leftist if they agree with the "do as ye will an ye hurt no one" and they will say "yeah that's what I believe and those evil conservatives want to run everyone's lives!!!!"
But then they're the ones who turn around and demand speech codes, affirmative consent forms for sex, and scream offense at every opportunity. Because "harm" gets redefined to mean "things I don't like happening to me"
The only thing that can anchor morality to avoid this kind of drift is an objective, absolute standard. Something that doesn't come from my feelings or perception.
Usually people who say they live by Alistair Crowley's dictum mean "immediate, tangible, physical harm that I can easily perceive" when they say "hurting anyone" but then when feelings get involved the definition starts sliding as you note.
Ask any leftist if they agree with the "do as ye will an ye hurt no one" and they will say "yeah that's what I believe and those evil conservatives want to run everyone's lives!!!!"
But then they're the ones who turn around and demand speech codes, affirmative consent forms for sex, and scream offense at every opportunity. Because "harm" gets redefined to mean "things I don't like happening to me"
The only thing that can anchor morality to avoid this kind of drift is an objective, absolute standard. Something that doesn't come from my feelings or perception.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 12:46 PM (39g3+)
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The real illuminating thing from the grand jury report was not what Gosnell was doing, it was how everyone around him was covering for him. As if it was just "business as usual" which is what I think freaked out so many people.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:37 PM (AkOaV)
This is why I think of abortion not as a political issue, but as a religious one. It's a tenet of a secular faith that anything which might possibly stop one abortion from happening is utterly anathema. How else to explain the Gosnells of the world? Why else would people be declaring the CMP videos forgeries or "deceptively edited" without ever having watched one?
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:37 PM (AkOaV)
This is why I think of abortion not as a political issue, but as a religious one. It's a tenet of a secular faith that anything which might possibly stop one abortion from happening is utterly anathema. How else to explain the Gosnells of the world? Why else would people be declaring the CMP videos forgeries or "deceptively edited" without ever having watched one?
Posted by: Hal at August 12, 2015 12:46 PM (hmPdt)
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You kind of have to use a live liver. You could a removed liver full of cyanide, and it's not going to get any deader.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 12, 2015 12:42 PM (IAqcp)
Well, if its just to harvest stem cells, then why do they care about which organs they are using and why are there premiums on certain organs?
The reason I ask is because I know of a company that 3d prints biological organs (which is pretty fucking cool) and is trying to get those (totally dead, never alive) organs approved for the FDA approval process.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 12, 2015 12:42 PM (IAqcp)
Well, if its just to harvest stem cells, then why do they care about which organs they are using and why are there premiums on certain organs?
The reason I ask is because I know of a company that 3d prints biological organs (which is pretty fucking cool) and is trying to get those (totally dead, never alive) organs approved for the FDA approval process.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:46 PM (AkOaV)
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Product of Conception Technician....now that is what I call a shovel ready job!
Posted by: President Toonces at August 12, 2015 12:46 PM (dCigj)
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So. Are we open or closed, boss?
Posted by: Mooo/Akin 24/7 Abortion Clinic and Human Flesh Far,m at August 12, 2015 12:47 PM (Yrjee)
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Take care of burdens on society! Kill babies and the very old!
Posted by: Moo Moo/jwest 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:47 PM (zt+N6)
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242 231 183 It is illegal to murder children. But since fetuses aren't children...well...it's not illegal.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (0LHZx)
So when DOES it become a child? When it leaves the hospital?
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 12, 2015 12:43 PM (06iOE)
Once again... if anyone ELSE kills the Fetus, in most States they are charged with Murder...
ergo... they must legally be a PERSON at that point...
Saying if the Mother does it, its not a person, but if anyone else kills it, it is a Person and thus murder???
Lets just say that the sophistry of the US Legal system is really insane...
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (0LHZx)
So when DOES it become a child? When it leaves the hospital?
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 12, 2015 12:43 PM (06iOE)
Once again... if anyone ELSE kills the Fetus, in most States they are charged with Murder...
ergo... they must legally be a PERSON at that point...
Saying if the Mother does it, its not a person, but if anyone else kills it, it is a Person and thus murder???
Lets just say that the sophistry of the US Legal system is really insane...
Posted by: BB Wolf at August 12, 2015 12:47 PM (qh617)
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I thought I was jaded, but I am really just a babe in the woods when it comes to believing what depravity can be conducted and sanctioned by my "fellow" humans.
I cannot help but believe that those "product of conception" technicians will rot in the lowest levels of Hell right next to Mengele and his medical staff!
I cannot help but believe that those "product of conception" technicians will rot in the lowest levels of Hell right next to Mengele and his medical staff!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 12, 2015 12:47 PM (ftVQq)
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The breast cancer rate among women who've had abortions is statistically higher than it ought to be is because the hormones produced upon conception activate cells in the breasts. If the pregnancy is terminated unnaturally, there's no shut-off signal sent to those cells so they keep growing, but without purpose or direction. Cancer often results.
You'd think even an evolutionist could look at that and say, "Hm. If only for that reason alone, maybe abortion isn't safe."
You'd think even an evolutionist could look at that and say, "Hm. If only for that reason alone, maybe abortion isn't safe."
Posted by: Doomed at August 12, 2015 12:47 PM (bGLSw)
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Since PP is making so much money off the baby parts, why do they even need $500 million of taxpayer money? This isn't supposed to be a for-profit enterprise, but it seems like it is certainly making a lot of profits. Who is getting all the money?
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 12, 2015 12:47 PM (kGrdk)
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No words for these monsters.
Re: the current "stem cell research" meme, and curing diseases and making vaccines...First, I am not aware, at all, of vaccines being made from aborted fetus parts. They are either live or dead viruses.
Stem cells: adult stem cells and/or those from your own body have been found to be effective (blood in tubes can be spun down and is being used to regenerate spinal cords and/or in the treatment of bone marrow diseases). There is also cord blood of newborns, which can be banked for use.
Basically the PP LIV supporters can try hard but get confused easily. I have read a comment recently yapping about vaccine research using body parts. Just like the meme of a "clump of cells" the new defense is being spread as fast as an STD in a Chicago bath house.
Re: the current "stem cell research" meme, and curing diseases and making vaccines...First, I am not aware, at all, of vaccines being made from aborted fetus parts. They are either live or dead viruses.
Stem cells: adult stem cells and/or those from your own body have been found to be effective (blood in tubes can be spun down and is being used to regenerate spinal cords and/or in the treatment of bone marrow diseases). There is also cord blood of newborns, which can be banked for use.
Basically the PP LIV supporters can try hard but get confused easily. I have read a comment recently yapping about vaccine research using body parts. Just like the meme of a "clump of cells" the new defense is being spread as fast as an STD in a Chicago bath house.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky,aging Redneck Queen supermodel, Walker/whoever 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:47 PM (2qF5m)
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I don't feel like being depressed for six hours.
=====%%
Watch something happy like Barry Lyndon or Salaam Bombay
I don't feel like being depressed for six hours.
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Watch something happy like Barry Lyndon or Salaam Bombay
Posted by: Bigby's Cellphone Finger at August 12, 2015 12:47 PM (9dwWF)
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And funny how so called conservatives who scream
about the govt leaving you alone and letting you live your life in peace
are the same ones who want the govt forcing a woman to have a fucking
child and raise it for 20 years. Cuz that's the hallmark of freedom.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:19 PM (0LHZx)
You like demolishing fucking strawmen, huh?
1) When a woman has an abortion, she is TAKING ANOTHER HUMAN LIFE. Say what you will about "my body, my choice," but the fact is, it's NOT the woman's body. It's her unborn child's body that is going to be destroyed. Yes there may be cases where abortion shouldn't be refused - as much as it pains me, I couldn't in good conscience force a woman to give birth to a baby conceived thru rape if she didn't want to do so - but abortion on demand is fucking MURDER, and that is indisputable.
2) NO one is saying the woman who gives birth to the child must "raise it for 20 fucking years." What pro-lifers are saying is KILLING THE BABY is not the ONLY option, for chrissakes. Adoption can and should be more available. Women who are unsure if they want or could support a baby should have all the access they need to pregnancy assistance to give birth to a baby who they can then be assured will go to a home where they will be loved and wanted and, most importantly, where they will LIVE.
But no. You and your ilk would rather wash your hands of the whole affair and continue to believe the lie that an unborn baby isn't a human, isn't alive, isn't a BABY at all, that disposal of anything that disrupts a woman's life and routine should be subject to the same thought or care as throwing out an old t-shirt, just so you can sleep at night without having nightmares about drowning in the blood of murdered babies.
Fuck you. Fuck you.
about the govt leaving you alone and letting you live your life in peace
are the same ones who want the govt forcing a woman to have a fucking
child and raise it for 20 years. Cuz that's the hallmark of freedom.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:19 PM (0LHZx)
You like demolishing fucking strawmen, huh?
1) When a woman has an abortion, she is TAKING ANOTHER HUMAN LIFE. Say what you will about "my body, my choice," but the fact is, it's NOT the woman's body. It's her unborn child's body that is going to be destroyed. Yes there may be cases where abortion shouldn't be refused - as much as it pains me, I couldn't in good conscience force a woman to give birth to a baby conceived thru rape if she didn't want to do so - but abortion on demand is fucking MURDER, and that is indisputable.
2) NO one is saying the woman who gives birth to the child must "raise it for 20 fucking years." What pro-lifers are saying is KILLING THE BABY is not the ONLY option, for chrissakes. Adoption can and should be more available. Women who are unsure if they want or could support a baby should have all the access they need to pregnancy assistance to give birth to a baby who they can then be assured will go to a home where they will be loved and wanted and, most importantly, where they will LIVE.
But no. You and your ilk would rather wash your hands of the whole affair and continue to believe the lie that an unborn baby isn't a human, isn't alive, isn't a BABY at all, that disposal of anything that disrupts a woman's life and routine should be subject to the same thought or care as throwing out an old t-shirt, just so you can sleep at night without having nightmares about drowning in the blood of murdered babies.
Fuck you. Fuck you.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 12:48 PM (4df7R)
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I like zee cut of Herr Moo Moo's jib. I can't vait to meet him!
Posted by: Josef Mengele at August 12, 2015 12:48 PM (mx5oN)
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Lets just say that the sophistry of the US Legal system is really insane...
Posted by: BB Wolf at August 12, 2015 12:47 PM (qh617)
The Harvard/Yale lawyers association has done some fine work in crafting legislation!
Posted by: BB Wolf at August 12, 2015 12:47 PM (qh617)
The Harvard/Yale lawyers association has done some fine work in crafting legislation!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 12, 2015 12:48 PM (ftVQq)
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The reason I ask is because I know of a company that
3d prints biological organs (which is pretty fucking cool) and is
trying to get those (totally dead, never alive) organs approved for the
FDA approval process.
Posted by: mynewhandle
Oh really? So maybe I can get one to work the third shift?
3d prints biological organs (which is pretty fucking cool) and is
trying to get those (totally dead, never alive) organs approved for the
FDA approval process.
Posted by: mynewhandle
Oh really? So maybe I can get one to work the third shift?
Posted by: Moderate Salami's Liver at August 12, 2015 12:48 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:49 PM (AkOaV)
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Usually people who say they live by Alistair Crowley's dictum mean "immediate, tangible, physical harm that I can easily perceive" when they say "hurting anyone" but then when feelings get involved the definition starts sliding as you note.
Ask any leftist if they agree with the "do as ye will an ye hurt no one" and they will say "yeah that's what I believe and those evil conservatives want to run everyone's lives!!!!"
But then they're the ones who turn around and demand speech codes, affirmative consent forms for sex, and scream offense at every opportunity. Because "harm" gets redefined to mean "things I don't like happening to me"
The only thing that can anchor morality to avoid this kind of drift is an objective, absolute standard. Something that doesn't come from my feelings or perception.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 12:46 PM (39g3+)
What's funny is how often "Don't do to others what you don't want done to you" appears as a moral lesson through out the world.
How often has it appeared as, "Do to others what you would have them do to you?"
The distinction is subtle but significant.
Ask any leftist if they agree with the "do as ye will an ye hurt no one" and they will say "yeah that's what I believe and those evil conservatives want to run everyone's lives!!!!"
But then they're the ones who turn around and demand speech codes, affirmative consent forms for sex, and scream offense at every opportunity. Because "harm" gets redefined to mean "things I don't like happening to me"
The only thing that can anchor morality to avoid this kind of drift is an objective, absolute standard. Something that doesn't come from my feelings or perception.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 12:46 PM (39g3+)
What's funny is how often "Don't do to others what you don't want done to you" appears as a moral lesson through out the world.
How often has it appeared as, "Do to others what you would have them do to you?"
The distinction is subtle but significant.
Posted by: Hal at August 12, 2015 12:49 PM (hmPdt)
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Just when i thought that I was going to carry all you losers across the finish line, you idiots had to go and criticize a black man. Oh well, there's always 2020.
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:50 PM (Spluw)
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Who is getting all the money?
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 12, 2015 12:47 PM (kGrdk)
Democrat campaigns like Hillary.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 12, 2015 12:47 PM (kGrdk)
Democrat campaigns like Hillary.
Posted by: Old Hob at August 12, 2015 12:50 PM (FFIoe)
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Moo paraphrased: I'm superior to all you "So-Cons because I don't care about baby murder. Nothing you can show me or say will make me care. BTW, I hate you.
Moo paraphrased: I'm superior to all you "So-Cons because I don't care about baby murder. Nothing you can show me or say will make me care. BTW, I hate you.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at August 12, 2015 12:50 PM (LWWrf)
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No matter what you feel about abortion, the proper response to these videos at the very least is "wow that's awful." Anything else says volumes about you and your worldview.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 12:50 PM (39g3+)
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I wonder how many people who sought an abortion that was for convenience, not necessity would think otherwise if they were not cloaked in propaganda, misled and lied to...
Posted by: Marcus T at August 12, 2015 12:06 PM (GGCsk)
Somebody told me that there's an organization, in Houston IIRC, that outfitted a bus with a 3D ultrasound machine and a nurse. They park in front of the biggest PP in town and offer free 3D ultrasounds to anyone that wants one. Something like 90% of the women who stop by the bus don't go into PP when they leave. What a fantastic idea this is.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 12, 2015 12:06 PM (GGCsk)
Somebody told me that there's an organization, in Houston IIRC, that outfitted a bus with a 3D ultrasound machine and a nurse. They park in front of the biggest PP in town and offer free 3D ultrasounds to anyone that wants one. Something like 90% of the women who stop by the bus don't go into PP when they leave. What a fantastic idea this is.
Posted by: Weirddave at August 12, 2015 12:50 PM (WvS3w)
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>> Who is getting all the money?
Democrat candidates. Duh.
It's a money laundering scheme, like so many "non-profit" organizations that get state and/or federal money.
Democrat candidates. Duh.
It's a money laundering scheme, like so many "non-profit" organizations that get state and/or federal money.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2015 12:50 PM (NOIQH)
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As if I needed another reason to start day-drinking . . .
Posted by: day-drinking logprof at August 12, 2015 12:50 PM (vsbNu)
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My morality is I will let you live your life, you let me live mine.
As long as you don't hurt anyone, I don't give a fuck what you do.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM
Yeah, try that shit with your homeowner's association.
As long as you don't hurt anyone, I don't give a fuck what you do.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:30 PM
Yeah, try that shit with your homeowner's association.
Posted by: huerfano at August 12, 2015 12:50 PM (bynk/)
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265 Since PP is making so much money off the baby parts, why do they even need $500 million of taxpayer money? This isn't supposed to be a for-profit enterprise, but it seems like it is certainly making a lot of profits. Who is getting all the money?
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 12, 2015 12:47 PM (kGrdk)
A not-for-profit corporation merely refers to the structure, a key characteristic of which is it has no shareholders. Not-for-profit doesn't mean you don't have revenues in excess of costs. The money is going to its executives, directors, employees and Democrat politicians.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 12, 2015 12:47 PM (kGrdk)
A not-for-profit corporation merely refers to the structure, a key characteristic of which is it has no shareholders. Not-for-profit doesn't mean you don't have revenues in excess of costs. The money is going to its executives, directors, employees and Democrat politicians.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2015 12:51 PM (mx5oN)
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@263...did you know that Menegle was a top abortionist in Argentina? True.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky,aging Redneck Queen supermodel, Walker/whoever 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:51 PM (2qF5m)
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Just when i thought that I was going to carry all you losers across the finish line, you idiots had to go and criticize Empress Mommom. Oh well, there's always 2020.
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:51 PM (Spluw)
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If we use abortion correctly we can get rid of all of the undesirable elements of our population in a couple of generations.
I get your sarc totally. My sarc piled on: We're back-filling this undesirable element by importing the undesirable elements from Mexico, Central/South America and the Caribbean.
I get your sarc totally. My sarc piled on: We're back-filling this undesirable element by importing the undesirable elements from Mexico, Central/South America and the Caribbean.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 12, 2015 12:51 PM (5buP8)
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It is illegal to murder children. But since fetuses aren't children...well...it's not illegal.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (0LHZx)
When is it a child MAMMON/MURDER?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:26 PM (0LHZx)
When is it a child MAMMON/MURDER?
Posted by: WOPR at August 12, 2015 12:51 PM (nRvEn)
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let's just say I'm a little unsettled by the DMV's attempt to make me an organ donor.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2015 12:32 PM (NOIQH)
Same with me. I don't want to get into some bad car wreck and have the EMT tech look at my license and see that I'm an organ donor. Of course they all say they'd do everything possible to help me, but how could the tiny seed of "well at least he'd help somebody else," not be in the back of their mind no matter how hard they try to ignore it?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2015 12:32 PM (NOIQH)
Same with me. I don't want to get into some bad car wreck and have the EMT tech look at my license and see that I'm an organ donor. Of course they all say they'd do everything possible to help me, but how could the tiny seed of "well at least he'd help somebody else," not be in the back of their mind no matter how hard they try to ignore it?
Posted by: Mainah at August 12, 2015 12:52 PM (659DL)
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The thing is, I suspect Moo Moo's worldview is pretty much boilerplate GOP establishment. Let me get rich and do what I want; damn the consequences, stop the little people from getting in the way.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 12:52 PM (39g3+)
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forcing a woman to have a fucking
child and raise it for 20 years. Cuz that's the hallmark of freedom.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
OK, first of all, the government didn't force said woman to have sex. That's how having children normally works, I'm pretty sure. And is a reasonable consequence of said choice.
Secondly, if this woman has the fvcking child and doesn't want it, there are avenues for addressing that, such as adoption.
Thirdly, I'd submit that the government degree of meddling in the results of people's decisions, both good and bad, is a pretty good measure of freedom.
child and raise it for 20 years. Cuz that's the hallmark of freedom.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
OK, first of all, the government didn't force said woman to have sex. That's how having children normally works, I'm pretty sure. And is a reasonable consequence of said choice.
Secondly, if this woman has the fvcking child and doesn't want it, there are avenues for addressing that, such as adoption.
Thirdly, I'd submit that the government degree of meddling in the results of people's decisions, both good and bad, is a pretty good measure of freedom.
Posted by: Moderate Salami's Liver at August 12, 2015 12:53 PM (/Ho8c)
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Posted by: Weirddave at August 12, 2015 12:50 PM (WvS3w)
What a great idea! Pure personal and free information for your consideration. Hard to disbelieve your own eyes!
What a great idea! Pure personal and free information for your consideration. Hard to disbelieve your own eyes!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 12, 2015 12:53 PM (ftVQq)
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Gotta wonder how much Planned Genocide is cutting HUCK/AKIN for his efforts.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at August 12, 2015 12:55 PM (XFeOE)
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The thing is, I suspect Moo Moo's worldview is pretty much boilerplate GOP establishment. Let me get rich and do what I want; damn the consequences, stop the little people from getting in the way.
If so, then as a nation we really are without hope (which I haven't doubted for going on 10 years, just pointing it out).
If so, then as a nation we really are without hope (which I haven't doubted for going on 10 years, just pointing it out).
Posted by: Doomed at August 12, 2015 12:55 PM (bGLSw)
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Related: Finally some people are noticing Sanger.
http://tinyurl.com/pe54h88
Still waiting for a GOP candidate to hammer hillary on her racist hero.
Related: Finally some people are noticing Sanger.
http://tinyurl.com/pe54h88
Still waiting for a GOP candidate to hammer hillary on her racist hero.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 12, 2015 12:55 PM (ODxAs)
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The breast cancer rate among women who've had
abortions is statistically higher than it ought to be is because the
hormones produced upon conception activate cells in the breasts.
Posted by: Doomed at August 12, 2015 12:47 PM (bGLSw)
Based on what studies?
The large cohort studies found no risk.
abortions is statistically higher than it ought to be is because the
hormones produced upon conception activate cells in the breasts.
Posted by: Doomed at August 12, 2015 12:47 PM (bGLSw)
Based on what studies?
The large cohort studies found no risk.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 12, 2015 12:55 PM (Zu3d9)
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Somebody told me that there's an organization, in Houston IIRC, that outfitted a bus with a 3D ultrasound machine and a nurse. They park in front of the biggest PP in town and offer free 3D ultrasounds to anyone that wants one. Something like 90% of the women who stop by the bus don't go into PP when they leave. What a fantastic idea this is.
It's Thrive, and they do a lot more for unwed mothers that choose to keep their children: Job counseling, educational assistance, even giving them professional wardrobes. My wife and I went to their annual fundraiser. They hold it as a "graduation ceremony." The mothers bring their babies, and it's just beautiful.
It's Thrive, and they do a lot more for unwed mothers that choose to keep their children: Job counseling, educational assistance, even giving them professional wardrobes. My wife and I went to their annual fundraiser. They hold it as a "graduation ceremony." The mothers bring their babies, and it's just beautiful.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 12, 2015 12:55 PM (5buP8)
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Cool, I made it in time for the conclusion of We Were Soldiers.
Posted by: day-drinking logprof at August 12, 2015 12:56 PM (vsbNu)
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Just when i thought that I was going to carry all you losers across the finish line, you idiots had to go and criticize printing and spending mountains of money we can't hope to repay. Oh well, there's always 2020.
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:56 PM (Spluw)
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The thing is, I suspect Moo Moo's worldview is
pretty much boilerplate GOP establishment. Let me get rich and do what I
want; damn the consequences, stop the little people from getting in the
way.
If so, then as a nation we really are without hope (which I haven't doubted for going on 10 years, just pointing it out).
Posted by: Doomed
Indeed we are.
pretty much boilerplate GOP establishment. Let me get rich and do what I
want; damn the consequences, stop the little people from getting in the
way.
If so, then as a nation we really are without hope (which I haven't doubted for going on 10 years, just pointing it out).
Posted by: Doomed
Indeed we are.
Posted by: Moderate Salami's Liver, dreading the daily newscycle at August 12, 2015 12:56 PM (/Ho8c)
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These 'people' are baal worshipers. Have we not figured this out yet? This is who 52% have put in charge of America. They are destroying America and civilization in service of satan.
Posted by: Eromero at August 12, 2015 12:56 PM (go5uR)
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Well said, Beth!
IIRC, Kirsten Powers, who was all over the Gosnell story and now the PP story, said something to the effect that the difference between a fetus and baby is a matter of geography, only whether it is inside or outside of the womb, a matter of ~12 ".
IIRC, Kirsten Powers, who was all over the Gosnell story and now the PP story, said something to the effect that the difference between a fetus and baby is a matter of geography, only whether it is inside or outside of the womb, a matter of ~12 ".
Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2015 12:56 PM (NOIQH)
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But hey what the fuck, let's talk about it until election day 2016. What could go wrong?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 11:57 AM (0LHZx)
Yeah, the GOP fearfully steered clear of 'social issues' in 2008 and 2012 and lost, anyway. Truth is, it doesn't matter if we avoid talking about these issues or shy away from taking a confrontational approach with the Democrats. The Democratsdon't. The Democratsfill that silence with their own messages and memes--which includes abortion up to and including the moment of birth, de facto infanticide. The Democrats will claim a War On Women is going on whether we choose to respond or not.
In any event,if theRepublican Party won't take a stand on abortion--specifically late-term abortion practices and theinherently dehumanizing abortion industry--then what, exactly, is it good for? What purpose does it serve? Why should we elect leaders from the supposed opposition party if they are indistinguishable from their Democratic Party counterparts?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 11:57 AM (0LHZx)
Yeah, the GOP fearfully steered clear of 'social issues' in 2008 and 2012 and lost, anyway. Truth is, it doesn't matter if we avoid talking about these issues or shy away from taking a confrontational approach with the Democrats. The Democratsdon't. The Democratsfill that silence with their own messages and memes--which includes abortion up to and including the moment of birth, de facto infanticide. The Democrats will claim a War On Women is going on whether we choose to respond or not.
In any event,if theRepublican Party won't take a stand on abortion--specifically late-term abortion practices and theinherently dehumanizing abortion industry--then what, exactly, is it good for? What purpose does it serve? Why should we elect leaders from the supposed opposition party if they are indistinguishable from their Democratic Party counterparts?
Posted by: troyriser at August 12, 2015 12:56 PM (XHR9b)
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My sarc piled on: We're back-filling this undesirable element by importing the undesirable elements from Mexico, Central/South America and the Caribbean.
Free PP to illegals. (/s, or is it?)
Free PP to illegals. (/s, or is it?)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2015 12:56 PM (oqhrS)
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Comment 3: It's should be a crime if a poor, uneducated, single woman even thinks of getting an abortion
MAMMON/MURDER
Yeah, the solution to irresponsibility is murder.
MAMMON/MURDER
Yeah, the solution to irresponsibility is murder.
Posted by: WOPR at August 12, 2015 12:56 PM (nRvEn)
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I'm glad to see we've moved on to the part where nothing will happen and business, no matter how ghastly, will continue as usual. I was afraid this one would be different, and it was really getting my hopes up.
As a country, we lack the moral courage to halt murdered-baby organ trafficking.
As a country, we lack the moral courage to halt murdered-baby organ trafficking.
Posted by: shillelagh at August 12, 2015 12:57 PM (bqNKV)
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Just when i thought that I was going to carry all you losers across the finish line, you idiots had to go and criticize gay marriage.....Even though you didn't......these were all court cases rammed through by advocates and cheered on by my intellectual idol, Gabe. Oh well, there's always 2020.
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:57 PM (Spluw)
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That's laughable. A woman goes to PP and asks should I get an abortion? That's like me going to Jiffy Lube and asking, do you think my car needs an oil chance? Gee I wonder how often the answer is no...maybe 1 in 100,000? Selling body parts or no, PP will always say yeah get an abortion. It's their business for crying out loud.
Violating HIPPA...OK that should be prosecuted if it's true. But I don't think a woman should have the right to decide what is done with an aborted fetus after the fact.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:10 PM (0LHZx)
You nailed it right there, and you don't even fucking realize it, dolt. "It's their business for crying out loud."
That's exactly what's wrong about it. People have set up a fucking business to kill unborn babies, and then sell the dismembered bits to third parties.
Abortions should not be provided by for-profit businesses dedicated to providing abortions. I can accept that some abortions (very few) are medically necessary, and that in other cases, abortions may be the "least worse" choice for a woman with an unwanted pregnancy, but if abortion is the choice, let it be provided by a regular physician in a hospital, and let it be done as ethically as it is possible to do such a thing.
If Jiffy Lube were running around dumping iron filings into the crankcases of peoples' cars, and then selling them an oil change, well, that wouldn't begin to approach the sheer evil that is Planned Parenthood.
Violating HIPPA...OK that should be prosecuted if it's true. But I don't think a woman should have the right to decide what is done with an aborted fetus after the fact.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:10 PM (0LHZx)
You nailed it right there, and you don't even fucking realize it, dolt. "It's their business for crying out loud."
That's exactly what's wrong about it. People have set up a fucking business to kill unborn babies, and then sell the dismembered bits to third parties.
Abortions should not be provided by for-profit businesses dedicated to providing abortions. I can accept that some abortions (very few) are medically necessary, and that in other cases, abortions may be the "least worse" choice for a woman with an unwanted pregnancy, but if abortion is the choice, let it be provided by a regular physician in a hospital, and let it be done as ethically as it is possible to do such a thing.
If Jiffy Lube were running around dumping iron filings into the crankcases of peoples' cars, and then selling them an oil change, well, that wouldn't begin to approach the sheer evil that is Planned Parenthood.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 12, 2015 12:57 PM (IAqcp)
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So "pressuring women to get abortions" or even "putting abortion clinics in black neighborhoods then advertising to black women through sex ed classes at local schools" with the goal of killing off "unwanted" black babies is okay.
but if it was mandatory, its not?
So you're fine with Sangers original mission for PP: sterilizing black men and women? They paid them for the sterilization with money raised from white Democrats who hated black people and wanted fewer of them.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:41 PM (AkOaV)
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Who gets abortions usually? Poor women and/or poor single mothers. Where are there a lot of poor single mothers? In black neighborhoods. So, like any other business, PP markets itself to its customer base.
but if it was mandatory, its not?
So you're fine with Sangers original mission for PP: sterilizing black men and women? They paid them for the sterilization with money raised from white Democrats who hated black people and wanted fewer of them.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:41 PM (AkOaV)
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Who gets abortions usually? Poor women and/or poor single mothers. Where are there a lot of poor single mothers? In black neighborhoods. So, like any other business, PP markets itself to its customer base.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:57 PM (0LHZx)
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Note: Powers was lamenting that it was just geography - she is totes pro-life.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2015 12:57 PM (NOIQH)
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Dear BLM,
Just wanted to get your take on the whole white-owned Planned Parenthood secretly aborting more African-American babies than white babies without consent and selling their pieces and parts ?
#BlackLivesMatter
Sincerely,
SRM
Just wanted to get your take on the whole white-owned Planned Parenthood secretly aborting more African-American babies than white babies without consent and selling their pieces and parts ?
#BlackLivesMatter
Sincerely,
SRM
Posted by: some random meathead - pulling the pin on the grenade at August 12, 2015 12:58 PM (Yrjee)
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Joe's Law: Trolls believe none of the things they post.
Joe's Corollary: Your disgust is their oxygen.
Joe's Law: Trolls believe none of the things they post.
Joe's Corollary: Your disgust is their oxygen.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 12, 2015 12:58 PM (evdj2)
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Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 12, 2015 12:55 PM (Zu3d9)
I never got the desire to try to use medical studies to scare people out of having abortions. It never quite works because there's always a study showing a different result and then people think you're lying to them.
Having said that, I think we hide the risk of LARC (specifically IUDs). Just citing random here, web MD showed a 1:1000 chance of uterine puncture (variable depending on the skill of the doctor) and anywhere from a 2-10% chance of other complications (including falling out.)
But hey, let's have the government pay to put them in every girl once she turns 10!
I never got the desire to try to use medical studies to scare people out of having abortions. It never quite works because there's always a study showing a different result and then people think you're lying to them.
Having said that, I think we hide the risk of LARC (specifically IUDs). Just citing random here, web MD showed a 1:1000 chance of uterine puncture (variable depending on the skill of the doctor) and anywhere from a 2-10% chance of other complications (including falling out.)
But hey, let's have the government pay to put them in every girl once she turns 10!
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 12, 2015 12:59 PM (tM4uk)
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The real illuminating thing from the grand jury report was not what Gosnell was doing, it was how everyone around him was covering for him. As if it was just "business as usual" which is what I think freaked out so many people.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:37 PM (AkOaV)
This is why this stuff should be done in a real hospital with real doctors. With standards.
You know, if you care about 'women's health'.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 12:37 PM (AkOaV)
This is why this stuff should be done in a real hospital with real doctors. With standards.
You know, if you care about 'women's health'.
Posted by: Lea at August 12, 2015 12:59 PM (lIU4e)
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Palate cleaner: Pretty good Trump Joke on WZ.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 12, 2015 12:59 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2015 12:59 PM (oqhrS)
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if abortion is the choice, let it be provided by a regular physician in a hospital
Regular physicians won't do it.
Regular physicians won't do it.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 12, 2015 12:59 PM (evdj2)
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Remember when abortion defenders used the "viability" argument a lot? Well, now that technology is increasing the time span for viability, the "argument" is simply "the [even if viable] fetus is not a child."
Posted by: day-drinking logprof at August 12, 2015 12:59 PM (vsbNu)
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Planned Parenthood lunchtime threads are also a good way to curb your calorie count.
Posted by: Garrett at August 12, 2015 01:00 PM (rGZMi)
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But hey what the fuck, let's talk about it until election day 2016. What could go wrong?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 11:57 AM (0LHZx)
Oh, would you guys do me a solid and ignore the Politico article where Claire (roadkill) McCaskill brags about meddling in the republican primary so that the weakest candidate (Akin) got the nomination? Cause if you don't, then I'll look like more of an asshole than I am for pretending that Huckabee is the go-to guy for you peasants.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 11:57 AM (0LHZx)
Oh, would you guys do me a solid and ignore the Politico article where Claire (roadkill) McCaskill brags about meddling in the republican primary so that the weakest candidate (Akin) got the nomination? Cause if you don't, then I'll look like more of an asshole than I am for pretending that Huckabee is the go-to guy for you peasants.
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:00 PM (Spluw)
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Based on what studies?
The large cohort studies found no risk.
I admit I heard that reported about six months ago on radio and have seen nothing contesting it. Thanks for the tip, I will look into it. If wrong, consider it retracted.
The large cohort studies found no risk.
I admit I heard that reported about six months ago on radio and have seen nothing contesting it. Thanks for the tip, I will look into it. If wrong, consider it retracted.
Posted by: Doomed at August 12, 2015 01:00 PM (bGLSw)
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Yes, Planned Parenthood is a business. It provides a service that is legal. Why is this even a topic for debate. Of course it's a business.
Now, if you don't want to have that service performed on you, don't go there. But as long as it is legal to have abortions, there's nothing wrong or evil or any other adjective thrown around here, with what PP does.
And because it is a private business, the govt shouldn't fund it. As I said earlier, I'd be fine with de-funding it since I hate all govt subsidies to business, be it planned parenthood or a brand new shiny arena for a sports team.
Now, if you don't want to have that service performed on you, don't go there. But as long as it is legal to have abortions, there's nothing wrong or evil or any other adjective thrown around here, with what PP does.
And because it is a private business, the govt shouldn't fund it. As I said earlier, I'd be fine with de-funding it since I hate all govt subsidies to business, be it planned parenthood or a brand new shiny arena for a sports team.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:00 PM (0LHZx)
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Hasn't anyone figured out that this information only shows up at election time? Seriously, haven't any of you figured out that you are being set-up again to let social issues prevent you from winning elections. You all fall for this stuff every Freaking Time. When are you all going to figure this out, its not that hard.
Posted by: The Nutty Irishman at August 12, 2015 01:01 PM (SJi0a)
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>>Who gets abortions usually? Poor women and/or poor single mothers. Where are there a lot of poor single mothers? In black neighborhoods. So, like any other business, PP markets itself to its customer base.
So you're just going to ignore Sanger's racist eugenicist motivation for starting Planned Parenthood and attribute the high % of minority abortions they perform, and location in minority neighborhoods, as a matter on convenience to their personnel?
So you're just going to ignore Sanger's racist eugenicist motivation for starting Planned Parenthood and attribute the high % of minority abortions they perform, and location in minority neighborhoods, as a matter on convenience to their personnel?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2015 01:01 PM (NOIQH)
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Palate cleaner: Pretty good Trump Joke on WZ.
Posted by: The Great White Snark
dammit, I choked on lunch!
Palate cleaner: Pretty good Trump Joke on WZ.
Posted by: The Great White Snark
dammit, I choked on lunch!
Posted by: some random meathead - pulling the pin on the grenade at August 12, 2015 01:01 PM (Yrjee)
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Oh, would you guys do me a solid and ignore the Politico article where Claire (roadkill) McCaskill brags about meddling in the republican primary so that the weakest candidate (Akin) got the nomination? Cause if you don't, then I'll look like more of an asshole than I am for pretending that Huckabee is the go-to guy for you peasants.
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:00 PM (Spluw)
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Yeah it's McCaskill's fault that Akin said what he said. And it's also her fault that the GOP shoots itself in the foot every fucking election with some idiocy about abortion.
Oh, would you guys do me a solid and ignore the Politico article where Claire (roadkill) McCaskill brags about meddling in the republican primary so that the weakest candidate (Akin) got the nomination? Cause if you don't, then I'll look like more of an asshole than I am for pretending that Huckabee is the go-to guy for you peasants.
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:00 PM (Spluw)
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Yeah it's McCaskill's fault that Akin said what he said. And it's also her fault that the GOP shoots itself in the foot every fucking election with some idiocy about abortion.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:02 PM (0LHZx)
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315 if abortion is the choice, let it be provided by a regular physician in a hospital
Regular physicians won't do it.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 12, 2015 12:59 PM (evdj2)
Not usually. And note how the abortofascists fight tooth and nail against any legislation or agency rules requiring higher standards for their facilities, requiring their paid killers to have privileges at a nearby hospital or transfer agreements with hospitals in case of complications.
Regular physicians won't do it.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 12, 2015 12:59 PM (evdj2)
Not usually. And note how the abortofascists fight tooth and nail against any legislation or agency rules requiring higher standards for their facilities, requiring their paid killers to have privileges at a nearby hospital or transfer agreements with hospitals in case of complications.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2015 01:02 PM (mx5oN)
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It's getting to where I'm expecting the end game, at the press conference for video #12, to include the presentation of a live toddler as they announce "and here's the intact specimen we bought from them last year."
Posted by: Anachronda at August 12, 2015 01:03 PM (3eeJy)
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Moo Moo is a big fan of murderers and rape enablers.
Posted by: buzzion at August 12, 2015 01:03 PM (zt+N6)
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Posted by: The Nutty Irishman at August 12, 2015 01:01 PM (SJi0a)
See the well articulated comment by Troyriser in #301
See the well articulated comment by Troyriser in #301
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2015 01:03 PM (OSs/l)
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Just when I thought there was a sliver of a chance of winning in 2016.....BOOM....it gets blown up by the abortion death start.
Oh well, maybe 2020.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:17 PM (0LHZx)
If the GOPe wins, it's a loss anyway.
Oh well, maybe 2020.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 12:17 PM (0LHZx)
If the GOPe wins, it's a loss anyway.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 12, 2015 01:03 PM (IAqcp)
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But as long as it is legal . . . there's nothing wrong or evil . . . with what PP does.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:00 PM (0LHZx)
Do you not see how utterly backwards that is? Do you not see how that road leads only to desolation?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:00 PM (0LHZx)
Do you not see how utterly backwards that is? Do you not see how that road leads only to desolation?
Posted by: Hal at August 12, 2015 01:04 PM (hmPdt)
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Huck/Akin: "Yes I have kids. You know why? Because my wife made a.....wait for it.....***CHOICE*** to have kids. Now on the other hand, millions of women are not ready to have kids. And they make the...wait for it.....***CHOICE*** to not have kids. "
Crap, I tried using that on a judge once: "Your Honor, my *****CHOICE***** is not to go to prison." Judge, "then why did you rob the bank?"
"Your Honor, it doesn't matter, my ****CHOICE**** is NOT to go to prison"
Crap, I tried using that on a judge once: "Your Honor, my *****CHOICE***** is not to go to prison." Judge, "then why did you rob the bank?"
"Your Honor, it doesn't matter, my ****CHOICE**** is NOT to go to prison"
Posted by: doug at August 12, 2015 01:04 PM (IYEs/)
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This is why this stuff should be done in a real hospital with real doctors. With standards.
You know, if you care about 'women's health'.
Posted by: Lea at August 12, 2015 12:59 PM (lIU4e)
That would sort of align with safe, legal, and rare!
Real hospitals also don't (yet) have a culture of covering up grotesque malpractice like Gosnell or Parts For Sale because their business model is saving lives, not ending them!
You know, if you care about 'women's health'.
Posted by: Lea at August 12, 2015 12:59 PM (lIU4e)
That would sort of align with safe, legal, and rare!
Real hospitals also don't (yet) have a culture of covering up grotesque malpractice like Gosnell or Parts For Sale because their business model is saving lives, not ending them!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 12, 2015 01:04 PM (ftVQq)
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Not usually. And note how the abortofascists fight tooth and nail against any legislation or agency rules requiring higher standards for their facilities
Against higher standards than a truck stop bathroom.
Against higher standards than a truck stop bathroom.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2015 01:04 PM (oqhrS)
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So you're just going to ignore Sanger's racist eugenicist motivation for starting Planned Parenthood and attribute the high % of minority abortions they perform, and location in minority neighborhoods, as a matter on convenience to their personnel?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2015 01:01 PM (NOIQH)
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So you are saying if we don't like the views of the founder of a company we should never buy products/services from that company?
Fuck, I better sell my VW.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2015 01:01 PM (NOIQH)
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So you are saying if we don't like the views of the founder of a company we should never buy products/services from that company?
Fuck, I better sell my VW.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:04 PM (0LHZx)
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Well, looks like Huck Akin's getting all the attention he so desperately craves.
Ever the unjustified narcissist.
Ever the unjustified narcissist.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:05 PM (xSCb6)
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I'm disappointed that the mega-pork public funding of a new arena in Milwaukee was officially signed by Scott Walker. The principle of shoveling $250 million of hard-working taxpayers' money in lean times should have been reason enough to oppose it. The fact that the owner of the Bucks is a fucking Democrat makes it incredibly stupid.
Gov. Walker, you fucked up.
Gov. Walker, you fucked up.
Posted by: day-drinking logprof at August 12, 2015 01:05 PM (vsbNu)
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You all fall for this stuff every Freaking Time. When are you all going to figure this out, its not that hard.
Posted by: The Nutty Irishman at August 12, 2015 01:01 PM (SJi0a)
Social issues were studiously avoided by the (very moderate) GOP presidential nominees in 2008 and 2012. The Democrats, on the other hand,didn't ignore social issues at all; e.g., 'War On Women!'. They exploited Republican silence to their advantage. Is that the winning strategy you're talking about?
Posted by: The Nutty Irishman at August 12, 2015 01:01 PM (SJi0a)
Social issues were studiously avoided by the (very moderate) GOP presidential nominees in 2008 and 2012. The Democrats, on the other hand,didn't ignore social issues at all; e.g., 'War On Women!'. They exploited Republican silence to their advantage. Is that the winning strategy you're talking about?
Posted by: troyriser at August 12, 2015 01:05 PM (XHR9b)
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Yeah it's McCaskill's fault thatRethuglickkkkkkkkkans in Missouri voted for Romney and voted against your political idol. And it's also her fault that the GOP shoots itself in the foot every fucking election with some idiocy about voting for every spending bill under the sun, promoting asshole senators who can't be bothered to maintain a mailbox in their state AND then thinking that they will be loved by the MFM.
Posted by: mini/moo
Yeah it's McCaskill's fault thatRethuglickkkkkkkkkans in Missouri voted for Romney and voted against your political idol. And it's also her fault that the GOP shoots itself in the foot every fucking election with some idiocy about voting for every spending bill under the sun, promoting asshole senators who can't be bothered to maintain a mailbox in their state AND then thinking that they will be loved by the MFM.
Posted by: mini/moo
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:05 PM (Spluw)
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legal to have abortions, there's nothing wrong or evil or any other adjective thrown around here, with what PP does.
Legal and illegal are not the same as good and evil. Sorry.
Legal and illegal are not the same as good and evil. Sorry.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at August 12, 2015 01:06 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: UPCHUCK/FAKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:06 PM (Yrjee)
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Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 12, 2015 12:59 PM (tM4uk)
Informed consent is an interesting phrase when applied to a 14 year-old girl in a PP office, without her parents, being pushed to use birth control.
Informed consent is an interesting phrase when applied to a 14 year-old girl in a PP office, without her parents, being pushed to use birth control.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 12, 2015 01:06 PM (Zu3d9)
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Fuck, I better sell my VW.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Wow, he managed to spell VW. I owe Count de Monet $5.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Wow, he managed to spell VW. I owe Count de Monet $5.
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:06 PM (Spluw)
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Liberal logic dictates;
Pregnant woman gets an abortion. Just a clump of cells, no problem, her choice.
Pregnant woman is murdered. Suspect is charged with double homicide. One for the woman, one for the baby.
Also, Why do we tolerate people in the blog that advocate for the murdering of innocent life.
Pregnant woman gets an abortion. Just a clump of cells, no problem, her choice.
Pregnant woman is murdered. Suspect is charged with double homicide. One for the woman, one for the baby.
Also, Why do we tolerate people in the blog that advocate for the murdering of innocent life.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at August 12, 2015 01:07 PM (JOG+K)
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At one time slavery was legal .
The Nazi Camps had the veneer of legality .
The Nazi Camps had the veneer of legality .
Posted by: Drpullit at August 12, 2015 01:07 PM (rpllu)
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Legal and illegal are not the same as good and evil. Sorry.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at August 12, 2015 01:06 PM (/Ho8c)
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Evil is subjective. Legality is not.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at August 12, 2015 01:06 PM (/Ho8c)
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Evil is subjective. Legality is not.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:07 PM (0LHZx)
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You guys are harshing Moo Moo's buzz over his idea for ling pig veal.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 12, 2015 01:07 PM (oVJmc)
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Yes, Planned Parenthood is a business. It provides a service that is legal. Why is this even a topic for debate. Of course it's a business.
Now, if you don't want to have that service performed on you, don't go there. But as long as it is legal to have abortions, there's nothing wrong or evil or any other adjective thrown around here, with what PP does.
And because it is a private business, the govt shouldn't fund it. As I said earlier, I'd be fine with de-funding it since I hate all govt subsidies to business, be it planned parenthood or a brand new shiny arena for a sports team.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:00 PM (0LHZx)
God would you have been a horrible judge at the Nuremburg trials. "Hey, it was legal to bring Jews to the gas chambers. I was just following the law."
or "hey it was legal to own slaves. The law said I could, so I saw no problem with it."
or "hey it was legal to rape and/or beat your wife. The law said I could, so it's no problem."
But anyways, fine. Here's a quote from Mark Steyn quoting some other dead white guy. For some reason, your comment made me think of it.
"Back in the Trudeaupian golden age, you may recall, the great man's barnstorming transformation of Canada was momentarily halted by a storm about barns. It emerged that some overzealous officers of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police had burned down barns belonging to Quebec separatists. The press was briefly exercised over this, but M. Trudeau gave one of his famous shrugs and airily remarked that, if people were so upset by the Mounties burning down barns illegally, perhaps he'd make the burning of barns by the Mounties legal. As the great George Jonas commented:
"It seemed not to occur to him that it isn't wrong to burn down barns because it's illegal, but it's illegal to burn down barns because it's wrong. Like other statist politicians, Mr. Trudeau seemed to think his ability to set out for his country what is legal and illegal also entitled him to set out for his citizens what is right and wrong. He either didn't see, or resented, that right and wrong are only reflected by the laws, not determined by them." "
Now, if you don't want to have that service performed on you, don't go there. But as long as it is legal to have abortions, there's nothing wrong or evil or any other adjective thrown around here, with what PP does.
And because it is a private business, the govt shouldn't fund it. As I said earlier, I'd be fine with de-funding it since I hate all govt subsidies to business, be it planned parenthood or a brand new shiny arena for a sports team.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:00 PM (0LHZx)
God would you have been a horrible judge at the Nuremburg trials. "Hey, it was legal to bring Jews to the gas chambers. I was just following the law."
or "hey it was legal to own slaves. The law said I could, so I saw no problem with it."
or "hey it was legal to rape and/or beat your wife. The law said I could, so it's no problem."
But anyways, fine. Here's a quote from Mark Steyn quoting some other dead white guy. For some reason, your comment made me think of it.
"Back in the Trudeaupian golden age, you may recall, the great man's barnstorming transformation of Canada was momentarily halted by a storm about barns. It emerged that some overzealous officers of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police had burned down barns belonging to Quebec separatists. The press was briefly exercised over this, but M. Trudeau gave one of his famous shrugs and airily remarked that, if people were so upset by the Mounties burning down barns illegally, perhaps he'd make the burning of barns by the Mounties legal. As the great George Jonas commented:
"It seemed not to occur to him that it isn't wrong to burn down barns because it's illegal, but it's illegal to burn down barns because it's wrong. Like other statist politicians, Mr. Trudeau seemed to think his ability to set out for his country what is legal and illegal also entitled him to set out for his citizens what is right and wrong. He either didn't see, or resented, that right and wrong are only reflected by the laws, not determined by them." "
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 01:07 PM (AkOaV)
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Posted by: The Nutty Irishman at August 12, 2015 01:01 PM (SJi0a)
Oh great, another loser preaching a losing strategy.
How original.
Oh great, another loser preaching a losing strategy.
How original.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:07 PM (xSCb6)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 12, 2015 01:08 PM (XUKZU)
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You know, if we abort every baby, think of the savings we would achieve in reduced educational spending? In a couple of generations we could eliminate almost every educational institution and reuse those resources more productively towards the medical research that would ensure that I would live forever. In addition, the indoctrination grounds for the Left would be destroyed.
/s
/s
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Shipping for Atrocities, Monstrosities, and Barbarisms at the Outrage Outlet! at August 12, 2015 01:08 PM (hLRSq)
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Social issues were studiously avoided by the (very moderate) GOP presidential nominees in 2008 and 2012. The Democrats, on the other hand,didn't ignore social issues at all; e.g., 'War On Women!'. They exploited Republican silence to their advantage. Is that the winning strategy you're talking about?
I will have you know (believe) that Gay abortions for Big Bird was caused exclusively by a clown in MO that no one wanted, and a shyster from the South that can't get anything other than a small core base.
Cause it's easier than thinking.
I will have you know (believe) that Gay abortions for Big Bird was caused exclusively by a clown in MO that no one wanted, and a shyster from the South that can't get anything other than a small core base.
Cause it's easier than thinking.
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:08 PM (Spluw)
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320 But as long as it is legal to have abortions, there's nothing wrong or evil or any other adjective thrown around here, with what PP does.
I didn't realize that legislatures were the arbiters of good and evil.
I didn't realize that legislatures were the arbiters of good and evil.
Posted by: Anachronda at August 12, 2015 01:09 PM (3eeJy)
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So when the single mother of 3 has her 4th child - cuz you know it's a precious gift from God - will all you moral SoCons go over there and help out? You know change some diapers, make some formula, maybe baysit so the mom can spend some time on her own?
I mean hell, the precious gift from God surely is so precious that you will do everything you can to help for the next 18 years.
Yes?
I mean hell, the precious gift from God surely is so precious that you will do everything you can to help for the next 18 years.
Yes?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:09 PM (0LHZx)
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But as long as it is legal to have abortions, there's nothing wrong or
evil or any other adjective thrown around here, with what PP does.
Yes.
There.
Is.
Civil asset forfeiture is legal. Do you think that's right? The John Doe investigations in Wisconsin were legal. Do you think they were right? At one time slavery was legal. That wasn't evil? At one time it was illegal for women or racial minorities to vote or own property. Was that okay?
Sane people who don't slake their thirst with baby's blood understand that killing an unborn baby and then selling it off for a tidy profit is WRONG. Planned Parenthood is a modern day Burke Hare, but their victims are even less able to defend themselves than the victims of those butchers.
Laws change. Good and evil does not. Right and wrong does not. Even a moral reprobate like yourself should understand something as basic as THAT.
evil or any other adjective thrown around here, with what PP does.
Yes.
There.
Is.
Civil asset forfeiture is legal. Do you think that's right? The John Doe investigations in Wisconsin were legal. Do you think they were right? At one time slavery was legal. That wasn't evil? At one time it was illegal for women or racial minorities to vote or own property. Was that okay?
Sane people who don't slake their thirst with baby's blood understand that killing an unborn baby and then selling it off for a tidy profit is WRONG. Planned Parenthood is a modern day Burke Hare, but their victims are even less able to defend themselves than the victims of those butchers.
Laws change. Good and evil does not. Right and wrong does not. Even a moral reprobate like yourself should understand something as basic as THAT.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:09 PM (4df7R)
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Palate cleaner: Pretty good Trump Joke on WZ.
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Posted by: Mike Hammer, Hardliner at August 12, 2015 01:09 PM (9mTYi)
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Planned Parenthood lunchtime threads are also a good way to curb your calorie count.
Calorie count? That's so yesterday.
Calorie count? That's so yesterday.
Posted by: eleven at August 12, 2015 01:09 PM (ykfyK)
Posted by: President Toonces at August 12, 2015 01:10 PM (dCigj)
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Also, Why do we tolerate people in the blog that advocate for the murdering of innocent life.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at August 12, 2015 01:07 PM (JOG+K)
I seem to recall Ace is pro-choice, although I don't know if I've ever seen him write about it at length.
Still, kind of hard to influence anyone if you kick them out of the conversation. (So long as they aren't causing trouble, at least.)
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at August 12, 2015 01:07 PM (JOG+K)
I seem to recall Ace is pro-choice, although I don't know if I've ever seen him write about it at length.
Still, kind of hard to influence anyone if you kick them out of the conversation. (So long as they aren't causing trouble, at least.)
Posted by: Hal at August 12, 2015 01:10 PM (hmPdt)
Posted by: Pontious Pilate Governor of Judea at August 12, 2015 01:10 PM (Spluw)
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Ok moo. Here's the difficulty. You'd agree it's wrong to shoot someone to death who's knocked out cold, because they are human beings and will attain consciousness eventually.
How does a fetus differ from that? It is in form and essence a human being that will attain sentience some day. Indeed, there is evidence that they are not entirely unconscious but feel pain. Why do the same rules not apply to the fetus as well as the unconscious man?
And the solution to entitlements? Attach strings. FSAers can't be choosers. You want entitlements, you undergo sterilization.
How does a fetus differ from that? It is in form and essence a human being that will attain sentience some day. Indeed, there is evidence that they are not entirely unconscious but feel pain. Why do the same rules not apply to the fetus as well as the unconscious man?
And the solution to entitlements? Attach strings. FSAers can't be choosers. You want entitlements, you undergo sterilization.
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at August 12, 2015 01:11 PM (IESRt)
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>>Fuck, I better sell my VW.
Is VW still assisting the Nazis?
PP is still killing minority babies as a much higher rate than white babies. So the business is still performing in line w/its founder's racist eugenicist views, not despite them.
If PP were a Koch owned business there would be marches all across the country.
Is VW still assisting the Nazis?
PP is still killing minority babies as a much higher rate than white babies. So the business is still performing in line w/its founder's racist eugenicist views, not despite them.
If PP were a Koch owned business there would be marches all across the country.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2015 01:11 PM (NOIQH)
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***"Informed consent is an interesting phrase when applied to a 14 year-old girl in a PP office, without her parents, being pushed to use birth control."***
The number of states which allow a 14 y/o to get an IUD without parental consent is disturbing. The number goes higher when you raise the age to 16.
And so we have all of these age of consent laws which probably around half the states actively undermine by allowing underage teens to get birth control up to and including IUDs without parental consent.
Cognitive dissonance in this country is deafening.
The number of states which allow a 14 y/o to get an IUD without parental consent is disturbing. The number goes higher when you raise the age to 16.
And so we have all of these age of consent laws which probably around half the states actively undermine by allowing underage teens to get birth control up to and including IUDs without parental consent.
Cognitive dissonance in this country is deafening.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:11 PM (xSCb6)
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 12, 2015 01:12 PM (ftVQq)
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I mean hell, the precious gift from God surely is so precious that you will do everything you can to help for the next 18 years.
Yes?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Actually, I'll force them to, and I have you to thank for that.
Yes?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Actually, I'll force them to, and I have you to thank for that.
Posted by: King Putt loves useful idiots at August 12, 2015 01:12 PM (Spluw)
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But as long as it is legal to have abortions, there's nothing wrong or evil or any other adjective thrown around here, with what PP does.
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You mistake the legal power to do something, with the Right to do something. It is called 'moral confusion'.
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You mistake the legal power to do something, with the Right to do something. It is called 'moral confusion'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, Hardliner at August 12, 2015 01:12 PM (9mTYi)
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PP has done a very thorough job of sanitizing what It does. The other day I had a long "conversation' with a pro-choice advocate on Facebook. She believed that no doctor would abort a healthy baby after 13 weeks, and that no one would abort even a sick baby after 24 weeks. She said that all late term abortions were just the D&C's that allows follow a natural miscarriage or death in utero. She came across as someone who is educated, reasonably intelligent--and "knowledgeable" in the sense that she keeps up with the MSM>
Posted by: Burke at August 12, 2015 01:12 PM (91yCk)
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And funny how so called conservatives who scream about the govt leaving you alone and letting you live your life in peace are the same ones who want the govt forcing a woman to have a fucking child and raise it for 20 years. Cuz that's the hallmark of freedom.
Oh yes, this tired old canard. But this time the child is apparently "fucking."
I don't know a single person who forces anyone else to raise a child for 20 years, or even one year.
I do know a great many people who have adopted beautiful children (not one of them "fucking") and raised them to be wonderful, creative, productive members of society.
And yes, once the kids grow up, then they can "fuck."
Your language gives you away, sir. You are the fucker, extraordinaire.
Oh yes, this tired old canard. But this time the child is apparently "fucking."
I don't know a single person who forces anyone else to raise a child for 20 years, or even one year.
I do know a great many people who have adopted beautiful children (not one of them "fucking") and raised them to be wonderful, creative, productive members of society.
And yes, once the kids grow up, then they can "fuck."
Your language gives you away, sir. You are the fucker, extraordinaire.
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 12, 2015 01:13 PM (+YMhA)
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Way OT.
DUDE: JAMES O'KEEFE DOCUMENTS RETALIATION BY GOVERNMENT OVER INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM -- [NEW VIDEO]
James O'Keefe has released a new video today exposing how he's being retaliated against by US Customs because of his investigative journalism, specifically the report where he dressed as Osama Bin Laden and crossed the Mexican border. Every time he goes through Customs now, he is detained and questioned by officials asking him any number of questions about his business -- even who he might support in the presidential election.
In this video he says he's been detained and questioned six different times.
therightscoop.com
Way OT.
DUDE: JAMES O'KEEFE DOCUMENTS RETALIATION BY GOVERNMENT OVER INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM -- [NEW VIDEO]
James O'Keefe has released a new video today exposing how he's being retaliated against by US Customs because of his investigative journalism, specifically the report where he dressed as Osama Bin Laden and crossed the Mexican border. Every time he goes through Customs now, he is detained and questioned by officials asking him any number of questions about his business -- even who he might support in the presidential election.
In this video he says he's been detained and questioned six different times.
therightscoop.com
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 12, 2015 01:13 PM (qCMvj)
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Just got here. Looks like mooboy is on a trolling rampage.
Posted by: Soona at August 12, 2015 01:13 PM (P25Hh)
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>>Social issues were studiously avoided by the (very moderate) GOP presidential nominees in 2008 and 2012.
Not true. Romney said repeatedly during his presidential run in 2012 that he would defund PP. It had nothing to do with his losing but he did not avoid the issue at all.
Not true. Romney said repeatedly during his presidential run in 2012 that he would defund PP. It had nothing to do with his losing but he did not avoid the issue at all.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2015 01:13 PM (OGm46)
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Also, Why do we tolerate people in the blog that advocate for the murdering of innocent life.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at August 12, 2015 01:07 PM (JOG+K)
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How very leftist of you....don't like a different opinion, ban the opinion.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at August 12, 2015 01:07 PM (JOG+K)
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How very leftist of you....don't like a different opinion, ban the opinion.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:13 PM (0LHZx)
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@328 "See the well articulated comment by Troyriser in @301"
Yes...it's well articulated but again makes the same massive mistake of not recognizing that the default position of anyone under 40 yrs. old is that Abortion is right thing to do, based on the massive indoctrination that has happened in the schools, Universities, Media, and Pop Culture. Of course the Democrats get to talk about this all they want, but for us to even question it, takes us out of the debate in the minds of those that will actually be deciding these elections. It's a battle that can only be dealt with once you have already put the political power into place. Do you really believe that any running Republican does not agree with you anyway? They know if they did they couldn't run as a Republican.....so can't you see the set-up happening?
Yes...it's well articulated but again makes the same massive mistake of not recognizing that the default position of anyone under 40 yrs. old is that Abortion is right thing to do, based on the massive indoctrination that has happened in the schools, Universities, Media, and Pop Culture. Of course the Democrats get to talk about this all they want, but for us to even question it, takes us out of the debate in the minds of those that will actually be deciding these elections. It's a battle that can only be dealt with once you have already put the political power into place. Do you really believe that any running Republican does not agree with you anyway? They know if they did they couldn't run as a Republican.....so can't you see the set-up happening?
Posted by: The Nutty Irishman at August 12, 2015 01:13 PM (SJi0a)
Posted by: maddogg at August 12, 2015 01:14 PM (xWW96)
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So when the single mother of 3 has her 4th child - cuz you know it's a precious gift from God - will all you moral SoCons go over there and help out? You know change some diapers, make some formula, maybe baysit so the mom can spend some time on her own?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
I am soooo stupid, I'm still following along the Prenatal Parts = SPCA gag.
This, after hearing that waves of people are getting unfettered access to this country.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
I am soooo stupid, I'm still following along the Prenatal Parts = SPCA gag.
This, after hearing that waves of people are getting unfettered access to this country.
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:14 PM (Spluw)
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So when the single mother of 3 has her 4th child - cuz you know it's a
precious gift from God - will all you moral SoCons go over there and
help out? You know change some diapers, make some formula, maybe baysit
so the mom can spend some time on her own?
I mean hell, the precious gift from God surely is so precious that you will do everything you can to help for the next 18 years.
Yes?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:09 PM (0LHZx)
Ah, there you go again, with the tired "You want the baby to be born, but you don't want to SUPPORT it, because you hate poor people."
Why do you believe any of what you wrote? Churches do these very things. Local charities do these very things. NEIGHBORS do these very things. FAMILIES do these very things. Just because you are a cold-hearted monster who delights in death and calls it "freedom" doesn't mean that every other person in this country hates the poor and children as much as you do.
So when the single mother of 3 has her 4th child - cuz you know it's a
precious gift from God - will all you moral SoCons go over there and
help out? You know change some diapers, make some formula, maybe baysit
so the mom can spend some time on her own?
I mean hell, the precious gift from God surely is so precious that you will do everything you can to help for the next 18 years.
Yes?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:09 PM (0LHZx)
Ah, there you go again, with the tired "You want the baby to be born, but you don't want to SUPPORT it, because you hate poor people."
Why do you believe any of what you wrote? Churches do these very things. Local charities do these very things. NEIGHBORS do these very things. FAMILIES do these very things. Just because you are a cold-hearted monster who delights in death and calls it "freedom" doesn't mean that every other person in this country hates the poor and children as much as you do.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:14 PM (4df7R)
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I mean hell, the precious gift from God surely is so precious that you will do everything you can to help for the next 18 years.
Yes?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
You bet! I already have.
What in hell have you done to better society, except tell us how superior you are to everyone around you?
Yes?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
You bet! I already have.
What in hell have you done to better society, except tell us how superior you are to everyone around you?
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 12, 2015 01:14 PM (+YMhA)
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>>I seem to recall Ace is pro-choice, although I don't know if I've ever seen him write about it at length.
IIRC, he's pro-choice if it's the 1st trimester and in the cases or rape and incest.
IIRC, he's pro-choice if it's the 1st trimester and in the cases or rape and incest.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 12, 2015 01:14 PM (NOIQH)
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And people wonder where the Nazis came from. How could the Germans produce guys lke that? Where did men like Mengele and Goebbels and the rest come from? You can see it right here, folks. Right here. Given enough power, guys like that will do unspeakable evil and call it legal and proper.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 01:14 PM (39g3+)
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How very leftist of you....don't like a different child, abort the opinion.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:14 PM (Spluw)
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Social issues were studiously avoided by the (very moderate) GOP presidential nominees in 2008 and 2012.
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Akin and Murdoch's comments tainted every other Republican. It was unfair, but it was true. And the GOP is falling into the same trap with PP.
What's the definition of insanity again? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
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Akin and Murdoch's comments tainted every other Republican. It was unfair, but it was true. And the GOP is falling into the same trap with PP.
What's the definition of insanity again? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:14 PM (0LHZx)
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Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:09 PM (0LHZx)
I know! Here they are making a big deal over the surplus population when that child is statistically going to end up a criminal and cost lots of dollars over the decades he is going to be incarcerated. Not only should we reduce our costs by having that kid aborted, but we should take further steps to reduce future expenditures of taxpayer monies by sterilizing all of the single mothers.
Think of all the taxpayer money we could save if we killed the pregnant single mother of three and then retroactively aborted the other three future leeches and criminals that she already had!
You're an inspirational genius, H/A!
I know! Here they are making a big deal over the surplus population when that child is statistically going to end up a criminal and cost lots of dollars over the decades he is going to be incarcerated. Not only should we reduce our costs by having that kid aborted, but we should take further steps to reduce future expenditures of taxpayer monies by sterilizing all of the single mothers.
Think of all the taxpayer money we could save if we killed the pregnant single mother of three and then retroactively aborted the other three future leeches and criminals that she already had!
You're an inspirational genius, H/A!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Shipping for Atrocities, Monstrosities, and Barbarisms at the Outrage Outlet! at August 12, 2015 01:14 PM (hLRSq)
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So if it's legal, it cannot be evil? Holy fucking shit. Pogroms, the Holocaust, the holodomor, the Purges, gulags, slavery, beheading kuffir and infidels, killing women for being raped, all legal in their own contexts. Holy fucking shit.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2015 01:15 PM (mx5oN)
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Getting your policy preferences is winning. Anything else is Homerism.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 12, 2015 01:15 PM (evdj2)
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"Oh great, another loser preaching a losing strategy."
Yeah, like the strategy that the SoCons try to use everytime works. If it did we would not have Obama or Hillary shoved down our throats. Get a Clue!
Yeah, like the strategy that the SoCons try to use everytime works. If it did we would not have Obama or Hillary shoved down our throats. Get a Clue!
Posted by: The Nutty Irishman at August 12, 2015 01:15 PM (SJi0a)
Posted by: Moo Moo's Mom at August 12, 2015 01:15 PM (Yrjee)
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Evil is subjective. Legality is not.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
That is the most ass-backward thing you've ever typed, Moo, and that is SAYING something.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
That is the most ass-backward thing you've ever typed, Moo, and that is SAYING something.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:16 PM (4df7R)
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"If you think all life is precious, don't have an abortion. But don't
tell everyone else how to live. It's really as simple as that"
If you don't like slavery, don't own a slave. But don't tell everyone else how to live.
Hope I'm not the first person to say this. It's so fckuing obvious everyone should immediately be thinking it when they see this stupid argument.
tell everyone else how to live. It's really as simple as that"
If you don't like slavery, don't own a slave. But don't tell everyone else how to live.
Hope I'm not the first person to say this. It's so fckuing obvious everyone should immediately be thinking it when they see this stupid argument.
Posted by: delayna at August 12, 2015 01:16 PM (KnC4k)
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What in hell have you done to better society, except tell us how superior you are to everyone around you?
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 12, 2015 01:14 PM (+YMhA)
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Well for one, supporting a policy that allows poor single women to have abortions has benefited society a hell of a lot. Those millions of unwanted kids will not be in jail, will not be on welfare, etc.
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 12, 2015 01:14 PM (+YMhA)
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Well for one, supporting a policy that allows poor single women to have abortions has benefited society a hell of a lot. Those millions of unwanted kids will not be in jail, will not be on welfare, etc.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:17 PM (0LHZx)
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How very leftist of you....don't like a different opinion, ban the opinion.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:13 PM (0LHZx)
Except, sir, you are still here, aren't you.
Funny how you project so much, but the proof is in the pudding, isn't it.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:13 PM (0LHZx)
Except, sir, you are still here, aren't you.
Funny how you project so much, but the proof is in the pudding, isn't it.
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 12, 2015 01:17 PM (+YMhA)
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It's not the contrary opinion, it's your dishonest, ignorant, and insulting manner.
Posted by: Jus Sayin at August 12, 2015 01:17 PM (9A66V)
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Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:09 PM (0LHZx)
Okay, fine. So then what's the big deal with the #blacklivesmatter thing, anyways?
It's not like rich liberals are going in to the inner city and helping to raise these kids.
I mean, shit, why not just carpet bomb all inner cities? These poor kids have poor single mothers, shitty schools, and will probably have shit lives.
I mean, fuck it, let's be more efficient then that. Set up some gas chambers, maybe?
Come on, Moo, even you can't possibly believe in what you're seemingly advocating for here.
This is some KKK / eugenics shit. I'm a little embarrassed to even have this conversation with someone. I'm not sure what to say...
And for the record, I do not believe that we, as a society, should kill of the "undesirables".
Okay, fine. So then what's the big deal with the #blacklivesmatter thing, anyways?
It's not like rich liberals are going in to the inner city and helping to raise these kids.
I mean, shit, why not just carpet bomb all inner cities? These poor kids have poor single mothers, shitty schools, and will probably have shit lives.
I mean, fuck it, let's be more efficient then that. Set up some gas chambers, maybe?
Come on, Moo, even you can't possibly believe in what you're seemingly advocating for here.
This is some KKK / eugenics shit. I'm a little embarrassed to even have this conversation with someone. I'm not sure what to say...
And for the record, I do not believe that we, as a society, should kill of the "undesirables".
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 01:17 PM (AkOaV)
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Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 12, 2015 01:06 PM (Zu3d9)
Well actually that's why for minors we refer to "assent."
Interesting note: that's the same term the IOM used to define a requirement for doing research on chimps (after they all but banned it.)
Informed consent in the medical setting is all legal CYA anyway. When my wife went in for her induction she signed a digital pad that said "I consent to treatment."
They said if we wanted there were longer forms they'd show us. We declined. (She didn't care much. I'm sorta of a member of the "informed consent isn't really possible." school of thought that puts a lot of trust in doctors and the physician/patient relationship admittedly.)
In my case at least the trust worked. When neither of us were thinking rationally, and I was quite literally cussing out her doc, he was making the right decisions, verified by the healthy baby girl sleeping in the next room. When we calmed down, he patiently explained why he did what he did, and yeah, it was totally the right choices.
Oh but anyway, yeah, assent. It's assent. Some people call it "informed assent" but that's really just trying to cover up what it really is, which is deference.
Well actually that's why for minors we refer to "assent."
Interesting note: that's the same term the IOM used to define a requirement for doing research on chimps (after they all but banned it.)
Informed consent in the medical setting is all legal CYA anyway. When my wife went in for her induction she signed a digital pad that said "I consent to treatment."
They said if we wanted there were longer forms they'd show us. We declined. (She didn't care much. I'm sorta of a member of the "informed consent isn't really possible." school of thought that puts a lot of trust in doctors and the physician/patient relationship admittedly.)
In my case at least the trust worked. When neither of us were thinking rationally, and I was quite literally cussing out her doc, he was making the right decisions, verified by the healthy baby girl sleeping in the next room. When we calmed down, he patiently explained why he did what he did, and yeah, it was totally the right choices.
Oh but anyway, yeah, assent. It's assent. Some people call it "informed assent" but that's really just trying to cover up what it really is, which is deference.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 12, 2015 01:17 PM (tM4uk)
Posted by: Poo Poo at August 12, 2015 01:17 PM (vsbNu)
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Why the fvck is Mookin still allowed to post here? Because he occasionally lobs an easy softball anyone can hit?
He never addresses criticisms of his "arguments", actively insults the majority of the commentariat, blatantly lies, repeats statements that are routinely debunked in the very thread he's in, and manages to single handedly reduce the quality of a thread.
He's just an attention whore and a troll. He's not arguing, he's baiting.
And his continued presence here is a slight on an otherwise excellent blog.
He never addresses criticisms of his "arguments", actively insults the majority of the commentariat, blatantly lies, repeats statements that are routinely debunked in the very thread he's in, and manages to single handedly reduce the quality of a thread.
He's just an attention whore and a troll. He's not arguing, he's baiting.
And his continued presence here is a slight on an otherwise excellent blog.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:17 PM (xSCb6)
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#MyWalletMatters
Posted by: Suck Merkin 2525 at August 12, 2015 01:18 PM (W5DcG)
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Well for one, supporting a policy that allows poor single women to have abortions has benefited society a hell of a lot. Those millions of unwanted kids will not be in jail, will not be on welfare, etc.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:17 PM (0LHZx)
Careful, Moo.
You're rapidly approaching Stormfront territory here, bud.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:17 PM (0LHZx)
Careful, Moo.
You're rapidly approaching Stormfront territory here, bud.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 01:18 PM (AkOaV)
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332 This is why this stuff should be done in a real hospital with real doctors. With standards.
You know, if you care about 'women's health
I was talking about Thrive up-thread. Another thing they do is monitor PP "clinics" and keep a running tally on the number of times an ambulance is summoned there. And, it's A LOT. IIRC, several times a month they badly botch abortions. this often ends in sterility for the unfortunate woman. Another dirty little secret from the abortion industry.
You know, if you care about 'women's health
I was talking about Thrive up-thread. Another thing they do is monitor PP "clinics" and keep a running tally on the number of times an ambulance is summoned there. And, it's A LOT. IIRC, several times a month they badly botch abortions. this often ends in sterility for the unfortunate woman. Another dirty little secret from the abortion industry.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 12, 2015 01:18 PM (5buP8)
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If you don't like slavery, don't own a slave. But don't tell everyone else how to live.
Slavery isn't evil! Its legal!
-MooMoo
Slavery isn't evil! Its legal!
-MooMoo
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 01:18 PM (39g3+)
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By the way this is doing nothing to help politically....
Fuck politics. There's right and wrong.
Fuck politics. There's right and wrong.
Posted by: GMan at August 12, 2015 01:18 PM (sxq57)
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What in hell have you done to better society, except tell us how superior you are to everyone around you?
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 12, 2015 01:14 PM (+YMhA)
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And don't forget he makes more money in one day than Trump has made in his entire lifetime.
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 12, 2015 01:14 PM (+YMhA)
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And don't forget he makes more money in one day than Trump has made in his entire lifetime.
Posted by: Soona at August 12, 2015 01:18 PM (P25Hh)
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Yes, Planned Parenthood is a business. It provides a service that is legal. Why is this even a topic for debate. Of course it's a business.
Now, if you don't want to have that service performed on you, don't go there. But as long as it is legal to have abortions, there's nothing wrong or evil or any other adjective thrown around here, with what PP does.
And because it is a private business, the govt shouldn't fund it. As I said earlier, I'd be fine with de-funding it since I hate all govt subsidies to business, be it planned parenthood or a brand new shiny arena for a sports team.
Here's a man who would argue that the problem with Auschwitz was that it was financed by tax revenue from ordinary Germans.
Now, if you don't want to have that service performed on you, don't go there. But as long as it is legal to have abortions, there's nothing wrong or evil or any other adjective thrown around here, with what PP does.
And because it is a private business, the govt shouldn't fund it. As I said earlier, I'd be fine with de-funding it since I hate all govt subsidies to business, be it planned parenthood or a brand new shiny arena for a sports team.
Here's a man who would argue that the problem with Auschwitz was that it was financed by tax revenue from ordinary Germans.
Posted by: Weirddave at August 12, 2015 01:19 PM (WvS3w)
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Social issues were studiously avoided by the (very moderate) GOP presidential nominees in 2008 and 2012.
____________
Akin and Murdoch's comments tainted every other Republican.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
He's right you know. You guys were smoking along thanks to mini-moo, and then we were FORCED to cover this. ..... And Trayvon....and tampons......and Big Bird.......and fucking with a Presidential debate..okay, several of them.
____________
Akin and Murdoch's comments tainted every other Republican.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
He's right you know. You guys were smoking along thanks to mini-moo, and then we were FORCED to cover this. ..... And Trayvon....and tampons......and Big Bird.......and fucking with a Presidential debate..okay, several of them.
Posted by: MFM at August 12, 2015 01:19 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Garrett at August 12, 2015 01:19 PM (rGZMi)
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Disgusting bunch of vampires.
Posted by: Sphynx at August 12, 2015 01:19 PM (OZmbA)
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A story on the latest video made the "Editor's Picks" section over at msn.com. It's not at the top of the page, and there are no pictures associated with the link, so it's easy to miss. But it is out on the front page of the website.
Posted by: junior at August 12, 2015 01:19 PM (3uPSc)
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MyNewHandle,
Why do you keep insisting that I'm advocating some sort of forced abortion program? I've said this a thousand times. I want women to have a ***CHOICE***. If they want 7 kids, have 7 kids. If they want zero kids, have zero kids.
If I'm not mistaken, I thought conservatives were all about personal choices? Did I miss the memo when that changed?
Why do you keep insisting that I'm advocating some sort of forced abortion program? I've said this a thousand times. I want women to have a ***CHOICE***. If they want 7 kids, have 7 kids. If they want zero kids, have zero kids.
If I'm not mistaken, I thought conservatives were all about personal choices? Did I miss the memo when that changed?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:19 PM (0LHZx)
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And his continued presence here is a slight on an otherwise excellent blog.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:17 PM (xSCb6)
We're having a party and he's the piñata.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:17 PM (xSCb6)
We're having a party and he's the piñata.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Shipping for Atrocities, Monstrosities, and Barbarisms at the Outrage Outlet! at August 12, 2015 01:19 PM (hLRSq)
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How very leftist of you....don't like a different opinion, ban the opinion.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:13 PM (0LHZx)
Yeah I'm a whacko. I think murder is bad.
You, you're normal. Innocent life means nothing and is just another profit center.
But if I advocate for the murder of, say you, then that's bad right? Seeing as you're just a collection of parts that can be sold for profit, I fail to see the problem.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:13 PM (0LHZx)
Yeah I'm a whacko. I think murder is bad.
You, you're normal. Innocent life means nothing and is just another profit center.
But if I advocate for the murder of, say you, then that's bad right? Seeing as you're just a collection of parts that can be sold for profit, I fail to see the problem.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at August 12, 2015 01:19 PM (JOG+K)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2015 01:20 PM (oqhrS)
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There was no trigger warning when I signed up for this thread.
There was no trigger warning when I signed up for this thread.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, Hardliner at August 12, 2015 01:20 PM (9mTYi)
411
Paging Zombie Mengele....Mengele to PP
Posted by: torabora at August 12, 2015 01:20 PM (sH+1z)
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Well for one, supporting a policy that allows poor single women to have abortions has benefited society a hell of a lot. Those millions of unwanted kids will not be in jail, will not be on welfare, etc.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:17 PM (0LHZx)
Oh, yeah, the Margaret Sanger defense. Unwanted kids.
Do you have the slightest idea how many kids are wanted by adoptive parents, but they simply don't exist because we murder them in the womb at a rate that makes possible adoptions so rare?
Killing all those little brown and black babies doesn't actually make any sense at all, in that context. Think of all that sweet income the government makes every time they have to go through the paperwork to make an adoption final. Even a fiscal con like you can see the benefit to that, rather than spending all that sweet government money on killing them instead.
But hey, you go with that idea that killing those babies is a much more "humane" way to go. And do say hi to Margaret when you pass off this mortal coil. I'm sure she's got lots of buddies down there, but she could always use one more.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:17 PM (0LHZx)
Oh, yeah, the Margaret Sanger defense. Unwanted kids.
Do you have the slightest idea how many kids are wanted by adoptive parents, but they simply don't exist because we murder them in the womb at a rate that makes possible adoptions so rare?
Killing all those little brown and black babies doesn't actually make any sense at all, in that context. Think of all that sweet income the government makes every time they have to go through the paperwork to make an adoption final. Even a fiscal con like you can see the benefit to that, rather than spending all that sweet government money on killing them instead.
But hey, you go with that idea that killing those babies is a much more "humane" way to go. And do say hi to Margaret when you pass off this mortal coil. I'm sure she's got lots of buddies down there, but she could always use one more.
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 12, 2015 01:20 PM (+YMhA)
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***"Yes...it's well articulated but again makes the same massive mistake of not recognizing that the default position of anyone under 40 yrs. old is that Abortion is right thing to do..."***
So in addition to advocating a demonstrated losing strategy, you've pulled an argument straight out of your colon.
Do you have any source that backs up this remarkable claim?
Take your time.
You'll need it.
So in addition to advocating a demonstrated losing strategy, you've pulled an argument straight out of your colon.
Do you have any source that backs up this remarkable claim?
Take your time.
You'll need it.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:21 PM (xSCb6)
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Here's a man who would argue that the problem with Auschwitz was that it was financed by tax revenue from ordinary Germans.
Posted by: Weirddave at August 12, 2015 01:19 PM (WvS3w)
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So a woman voluntarily getting abortion is the same as a Jew getting put on a train to a death camp at gun point.
Yeah sounds about right.
Posted by: Weirddave at August 12, 2015 01:19 PM (WvS3w)
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So a woman voluntarily getting abortion is the same as a Jew getting put on a train to a death camp at gun point.
Yeah sounds about right.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:21 PM (0LHZx)
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Did I miss the memo when that changed?
It changes when it comes to murder.
Unsure why this has to be repeated for you so many times.
Oh, right. MBA.
It changes when it comes to murder.
Unsure why this has to be repeated for you so many times.
Oh, right. MBA.
Posted by: break out the puppets at August 12, 2015 01:21 PM (ZtFr+)
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But if I advocate for the murder of, say you, then that's bad right?
Can I get back to you on that? Seriously having to reconsider.
Can I get back to you on that? Seriously having to reconsider.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2015 01:21 PM (oqhrS)
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Here's a man who would argue that the problem with Auschwitz was that it was financed by tax revenue from ordinary Germans.
100% guaranteed true. Auschwitz and Birkenau were totally legal in the German empire. They were opened up to lower the strain on society by people who were all better off dead. Its not evil, evil is just a human construct. All moo moo arguments, all arguments by Nazis. Absolute fact.
100% guaranteed true. Auschwitz and Birkenau were totally legal in the German empire. They were opened up to lower the strain on society by people who were all better off dead. Its not evil, evil is just a human construct. All moo moo arguments, all arguments by Nazis. Absolute fact.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 01:21 PM (39g3+)
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321 Hasn't anyone figured out that this information only shows up at election time?
Posted by: The Nutty Irishman at August 12, 2015 01:01 PM (SJi0a)
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This isn't an election year, is it?
Ah well, it's ALWAYS "election time" now.
So we should just not have any information.
Yep.
Posted by: The Nutty Irishman at August 12, 2015 01:01 PM (SJi0a)
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This isn't an election year, is it?
Ah well, it's ALWAYS "election time" now.
So we should just not have any information.
Yep.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 12, 2015 01:21 PM (cN9Sk)
Posted by: GMan at August 12, 2015 01:21 PM (sxq57)
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Oh, right. MBA.
Posted by: break out the puppets at August 12, 2015 01:21 PM (ZtFr+)
Murder Babies? Allright!
Posted by: break out the puppets at August 12, 2015 01:21 PM (ZtFr+)
Murder Babies? Allright!
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2015 01:22 PM (mx5oN)
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If I'm not mistaken, I thought conservatives were all about personal choices involving exterminating life because someone was too fucking lazy to get contraceptives at CVS or Walmart? Was I able to read memo when that changed?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:22 PM (Spluw)
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So a woman voluntarily getting abortion is the same as a Jew getting put on a train to a death camp at gun point.
Yeah sounds about right.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:21 PM (0LHZx)
The Jew and the baby face about the same odds of surviving.
Yeah sounds about right.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:21 PM (0LHZx)
The Jew and the baby face about the same odds of surviving.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Shipping for Atrocities, Monstrosities, and Barbarisms at the Outrage Outlet! at August 12, 2015 01:22 PM (hLRSq)
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Do you have the slightest idea how many kids are wanted by adoptive parents, but they simply don't exist because we murder them in the womb at a rate that makes possible adoptions so rare?
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 12, 2015 01:20 PM (+YMhA)
__________
Oh so a pregnant woman should be forced to have a baby in order to make adoptive parents happy.
And you call me a monster?
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 12, 2015 01:20 PM (+YMhA)
__________
Oh so a pregnant woman should be forced to have a baby in order to make adoptive parents happy.
And you call me a monster?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:22 PM (0LHZx)
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386 Evil is subjective. Legality is not.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
That is the most ass-backward thing you've ever typed, Moo, and that is SAYING something.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:16 PM (4df7R)
Its a TAX!!!!
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
That is the most ass-backward thing you've ever typed, Moo, and that is SAYING something.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:16 PM (4df7R)
Its a TAX!!!!
Posted by: Justice John Roberts at August 12, 2015 01:23 PM (qh617)
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Jew and the baby equally deserving of their treatment, yet defined as unworthy of living by ideological allies. Its no accident that Margaret Sanger and Adolph Hitler were friends and supported each other's ideals.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 01:23 PM (39g3+)
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Why do you keep insisting that I'm advocating some sort of forced abortion program? I've said this a thousand times. I want women to have a ***CHOICE***. If they want 7 kids, have 7 kids. If they want zero kids, have zero kids.
If I'm not mistaken, I thought conservatives were all about personal choices? Did I miss the memo when that changed?
I have no dog in this fight, but that's disingenuous at best.
If I'm not mistaken, I thought conservatives were all about personal choices? Did I miss the memo when that changed?
I have no dog in this fight, but that's disingenuous at best.
Posted by: eleven at August 12, 2015 01:23 PM (ykfyK)
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All moo moo arguments, all arguments by Nazis. Absolute fact.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 01:21 PM (39g3+)
_________
Fucking 'eh!!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 01:21 PM (39g3+)
_________
Fucking 'eh!!
Posted by: Godwin at August 12, 2015 01:24 PM (0LHZx)
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Why do you keep insisting that I'm advocating some sort of forced
abortion program? I've said this a thousand times. I want women to have a
***CHOICE***. If they want 7 kids, have 7 kids. If they want zero kids,
have zero kids.
Here's a thought: If the women don't want kids. don't have sex. If your desire for sex is so strong that you can't resist, then be prepared for the consequences.
There's your CHOICE, you dingbat.
abortion program? I've said this a thousand times. I want women to have a
***CHOICE***. If they want 7 kids, have 7 kids. If they want zero kids,
have zero kids.
Here's a thought: If the women don't want kids. don't have sex. If your desire for sex is so strong that you can't resist, then be prepared for the consequences.
There's your CHOICE, you dingbat.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:24 PM (4df7R)
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So a woman voluntarily getting abortion is the same as a Jew getting put on a train to a death camp at gun point.
Yeah sounds about right.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN
That is YOUR legal/evil argument. It WAS legal to exterminate joos.
Yeah sounds about right.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN
That is YOUR legal/evil argument. It WAS legal to exterminate joos.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2015 01:24 PM (oqhrS)
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***"Getting your policy preferences is winning. Anything else is Homerism."***
Too bad we can't tattoo this on the retinae of our resident homers.
Too bad we can't tattoo this on the retinae of our resident homers.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:24 PM (xSCb6)
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thought conservatives were all about personal choices? Did I miss the memo when that changed?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:19 PM (0LHZx)
My personal choice would be to have you prosecuted and executed. Is that choice OK with you? Yeah, I didn't think so.
You need some help with your irrational logic.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:19 PM (0LHZx)
My personal choice would be to have you prosecuted and executed. Is that choice OK with you? Yeah, I didn't think so.
You need some help with your irrational logic.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at August 12, 2015 01:24 PM (JOG+K)
432
So a woman getting abortion and the baby being parted out for fun and profit is the same as getting a mole removed
Yeah sounds about right. Cause I'm mini/-moo
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Yeah sounds about right. Cause I'm mini/-moo
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:24 PM (Spluw)
433
Trolling Status: Accomplished.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 12, 2015 01:24 PM (evdj2)
434
Yeah, like the strategy that the SoCons try to use everytime works. If it did we would not have Obama or Hillary shoved down our throats. Get a Clue!
Posted by: The Nutty Irishman at August 12, 2015 01:15 PM (SJi0a)
Again: the GOP has been largely silent on abortion in every election cycle since 2008. Planned Parenthood remains un-defunded, thanks to McConnell and Boehner quisling away in Congress. Right now, the only GOP primary candidates talking at any length about abortion are Cruz, Huckabee, Rubio and Rand Paul--and I think Paul's strong pro-life views have even hurt him with his father's libertarian supporters. Social issues are Huckabee's turf, the wellspring of his support while Cruz and Rubio just happen to have strong, religously based views on the issue.
I don't count Rick Santorum as a serious candidate since he campaigns for president as a profession.
Posted by: The Nutty Irishman at August 12, 2015 01:15 PM (SJi0a)
Again: the GOP has been largely silent on abortion in every election cycle since 2008. Planned Parenthood remains un-defunded, thanks to McConnell and Boehner quisling away in Congress. Right now, the only GOP primary candidates talking at any length about abortion are Cruz, Huckabee, Rubio and Rand Paul--and I think Paul's strong pro-life views have even hurt him with his father's libertarian supporters. Social issues are Huckabee's turf, the wellspring of his support while Cruz and Rubio just happen to have strong, religously based views on the issue.
I don't count Rick Santorum as a serious candidate since he campaigns for president as a profession.
Posted by: troyriser at August 12, 2015 01:24 PM (XHR9b)
435
Yeah I'm a whacko. I think murder is bad. You, you're normal. Innocent life means nothing and is just another profit center. But if I advocate for the murder of, say you, then that's bad right? Seeing as you're just a collection of parts that can be sold for profit, I fail to see the problem.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at August 12, 2015 01:19 PM (JOG+K)
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Hmmm. Wonder how much we could get for mooboy parts. Probably not much. But still enough for a 9-piece chicken order at Popeye's.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at August 12, 2015 01:19 PM (JOG+K)
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Hmmm. Wonder how much we could get for mooboy parts. Probably not much. But still enough for a 9-piece chicken order at Popeye's.
Posted by: Soona at August 12, 2015 01:24 PM (P25Hh)
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Oh so a pregnant woman should be forced to have a baby in order to make adoptive parents happy.
No woman should be punished with a baby.
No woman should be punished with a baby.
Posted by: Barack Obama at August 12, 2015 01:24 PM (Yrjee)
437
So a woman voluntarily getting abortion is the same as a Jew getting put on a train to a death camp at gun point.
Yeah sounds about right.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:21 PM (0LHZx)
The baby being murdered is the Jew on the train, you imbecile.
Yeah sounds about right.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:21 PM (0LHZx)
The baby being murdered is the Jew on the train, you imbecile.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:25 PM (4df7R)
438
"Do you have any source that backs up this remarkable claim?"
Don't need one.....You have Obama as president, what more information do you need? Are you old? Because, to be quite frank, this is all really easy stuff, and you seem to not even understand the reality of the country you live in. You're still living in an America that doesn't exist anymore.
Don't need one.....You have Obama as president, what more information do you need? Are you old? Because, to be quite frank, this is all really easy stuff, and you seem to not even understand the reality of the country you live in. You're still living in an America that doesn't exist anymore.
Posted by: The Nutty Irishman at August 12, 2015 01:25 PM (SJi0a)
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394
Why the fvck is Mookin still allowed to post here? Because he occasionally lobs an easy softball anyone can hit?
Cause we love him and he's rich? I mean so rich Donald Trump calls him Sir.
Why the fvck is Mookin still allowed to post here? Because he occasionally lobs an easy softball anyone can hit?
Cause we love him and he's rich? I mean so rich Donald Trump calls him Sir.
Posted by: Planned Parenthood at August 12, 2015 01:25 PM (0FSuD)
440
The sad thing about the internet is that its made it impossible for anyone to point out when someone actually is agreeing with Nazis and has the same viewpoint by simply someone shouting "Godwin" as if that eliminates logic, truth, and reason. Its like being at a Maury Povich live show, some jackass in the audience can negate an entire argument with one emotive outburst because its filled with unthinking emotive intellectually immature trash.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 01:25 PM (39g3+)
441
And you call me a monster?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Yes. And an asshole. And a drooling moron (not in a good way.
Thanks for asking.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Yes. And an asshole. And a drooling moron (not in a good way.
Thanks for asking.
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:25 PM (Spluw)
442
Fuck, I love rum with lemon tea.
Posted by: day-drinking logprof at August 12, 2015 01:25 PM (vsbNu)
443
"Oh so a pregnant woman should be forced to have a baby..."
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In the case of rape, you might make that point, but otherwise, it was a conscious decision on her part.
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In the case of rape, you might make that point, but otherwise, it was a conscious decision on her part.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, Hardliner at August 12, 2015 01:25 PM (9mTYi)
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The so-called conservative mindset
WHAT? Bloomberg says I can't drink 17 oz of Coke? Fucking communist, nazi bastard!!!
What's that? You're a 15 year old pregnant rape victim? Fuck you, you're having that baby. I don't care if yor life is ruined. It's God's will.
WHAT? Bloomberg says I can't drink 17 oz of Coke? Fucking communist, nazi bastard!!!
What's that? You're a 15 year old pregnant rape victim? Fuck you, you're having that baby. I don't care if yor life is ruined. It's God's will.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:26 PM (0LHZx)
445
the only GOP primary candidates talking at any length about abortion are Cruz, Huckabee, Rubio and Rand Paul
I think you missed one.
I think you missed one.
Posted by: some random meathead at August 12, 2015 01:26 PM (Yrjee)
446
***"Yeah, like the strategy that the SoCons try to use everytime works. If it did we would not have Obama or Hillary shoved down our throats. Get a Clue!"***
You do realize that the SoCons were the ones getting the huge electoral shifts toward the GOP right? You do realize that it was the SoCons who put GWB in the white house and kept him there right?
Nah, that might require you to have some sort of empirical evidence.
You do realize that the SoCons were the ones getting the huge electoral shifts toward the GOP right? You do realize that it was the SoCons who put GWB in the white house and kept him there right?
Nah, that might require you to have some sort of empirical evidence.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:26 PM (xSCb6)
447
Well for one, supporting a policy that allows poor single women to have abortions has benefited society a hell of a lot. Those millions of unwanted kids will not be in jail, will not be on welfare, etc.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:17 PM (0LHZx)
What other problems can we solve with this wonderful tool called "murder"?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:17 PM (0LHZx)
What other problems can we solve with this wonderful tool called "murder"?
Posted by: Rick Tingles at August 12, 2015 01:26 PM (j2ei0)
448
Mmm, Keri Russell and Madeline Stowe.
Posted by: day-drinking logprof at August 12, 2015 01:26 PM (vsbNu)
449
Trolling Status: Accomplished.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 12, 2015 01:24 PM (evdj2)
amazing people will engage with it
y'all know what he/she is going to say
what's the point
all it does is raise your blood pressure
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 12, 2015 01:24 PM (evdj2)
amazing people will engage with it
y'all know what he/she is going to say
what's the point
all it does is raise your blood pressure
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 12, 2015 01:26 PM (qCMvj)
450
Apparently it is illegal to abort strawbabies. If not H/A would have run out of strawmen by now.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 12, 2015 01:27 PM (81UWZ)
451
But still enough for a 9-piece chicken order at Popeye's.
MMmmmm Popeye's.
MooMoo isn't a troll. He's not posting because he's trying to tease people into responding just to laugh at their outrage. he's not doing it because he wants a reaction.
He's posting because he's totally sure he's right and we're ruining everything by having any integrity, ethics, and logic. How dare we spoil Chris Christie's chances!
MMmmmm Popeye's.
MooMoo isn't a troll. He's not posting because he's trying to tease people into responding just to laugh at their outrage. he's not doing it because he wants a reaction.
He's posting because he's totally sure he's right and we're ruining everything by having any integrity, ethics, and logic. How dare we spoil Chris Christie's chances!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 01:27 PM (39g3+)
452
Meanwhile, the Little Sisters of the Poor are being ordered by a Court to pay for abortions......because of AKin and the GOP trap.
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:27 PM (Spluw)
453
IgnoreUser() FTW.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 12, 2015 01:27 PM (evdj2)
454
WHAT? Bloomberg says I can't drink 17 oz of Coke? Fucking communist, nazi bastard!!!
What's that? You're a 15 year old pregnant rape victim? Fuck you,
you're having that baby. I don't care if yor life is ruined. It's God's
will.
All you did was get conceived? Fuck you, into the blender!
WHAT? Bloomberg says I can't drink 17 oz of Coke? Fucking communist, nazi bastard!!!
What's that? You're a 15 year old pregnant rape victim? Fuck you,
you're having that baby. I don't care if yor life is ruined. It's God's
will.
All you did was get conceived? Fuck you, into the blender!
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 12, 2015 01:28 PM (oVJmc)
455
What in hell have you done to better society, except tell us how superior you are to everyone around you?
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 12, 2015 01:14 PM (+YMhA)
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Well for one, supporting a policy that allows poor single women to have abortions has benefited society a hell of a lot. Those millions of unwanted kids will not be in jail, will not be on welfare, etc.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:17 PM (0LHZx)
Now that, right there, is the sort of cheap morality that is blighting our social landscape. When there is moral equivalence between actual aid given to the needy vs. simply supporting the "right" policies, it becomes alarmingly easy to gain moral superiority. Morality so cheap as to be meaningless.
#bringbackourgirls
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 12, 2015 01:14 PM (+YMhA)
________
Well for one, supporting a policy that allows poor single women to have abortions has benefited society a hell of a lot. Those millions of unwanted kids will not be in jail, will not be on welfare, etc.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:17 PM (0LHZx)
Now that, right there, is the sort of cheap morality that is blighting our social landscape. When there is moral equivalence between actual aid given to the needy vs. simply supporting the "right" policies, it becomes alarmingly easy to gain moral superiority. Morality so cheap as to be meaningless.
#bringbackourgirls
Posted by: Hal at August 12, 2015 01:28 PM (hmPdt)
456
440 The sad thing about the internet is that its made it impossible for anyone to point out when someone actually is agreeing with Nazis and has the same viewpoint by simply someone shouting "Godwin" as if that eliminates logic, truth, and reason. Its like being at a Maury Povich live show, some jackass in the audience can negate an entire argument with one emotive outburst because its filled with unthinking emotive intellectually immature trash.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 01:25 PM (39g3+)
^This.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 01:25 PM (39g3+)
^This.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2015 01:28 PM (mx5oN)
457
Where's the specifics?
Posted by: Ready For The Donald!!11!! at August 12, 2015 01:28 PM (Dwehj)
458
We have an opening at 3:00 if you need to abort a troll?
Posted by: Planned Parenthood at August 12, 2015 01:28 PM (0FSuD)
459
So when the single mother of 3 has her 4th child - cuz you know it's a
precious gift from God - will all you moral SoCons go over there and
help out? You know change some diapers, make some formula, maybe baysit
so the mom can spend some time on her own?
I mean hell, the precious gift from God surely is so precious that you will do everything you can to help for the next 18 years.
Yes, my wife and I DO help out. We give quite a bit of money to Thrive, and my kids help out there on a volunteer basis. The women who opt in for keeing their children are some of the happiest, and most blessed women I've ever encountered.
precious gift from God - will all you moral SoCons go over there and
help out? You know change some diapers, make some formula, maybe baysit
so the mom can spend some time on her own?
I mean hell, the precious gift from God surely is so precious that you will do everything you can to help for the next 18 years.
Yes, my wife and I DO help out. We give quite a bit of money to Thrive, and my kids help out there on a volunteer basis. The women who opt in for keeing their children are some of the happiest, and most blessed women I've ever encountered.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 12, 2015 01:28 PM (5buP8)
460
I'm sure this has already been said, but...a "product of conception technician?"
These people are ghouls.
These people are ghouls.
Posted by: Robb at August 12, 2015 01:29 PM (YZo5S)
461
You do realize that the SoCons were the ones getting the huge electoral shifts toward the GOP right? You do realize that it was the SoCons who put GWB in the white house and kept him there right?
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I'll take Political Myths for $800 Alex.....
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I'll take Political Myths for $800 Alex.....
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:29 PM (0LHZx)
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Why do you keep insisting that I'm advocating some sort of forced abortion program? I've said this a thousand times. I want women to have a ***CHOICE***. If they want 7 kids, have 7 kids. If they want zero kids, have zero kids.
If I'm not mistaken, I thought conservatives were all about personal choices? Did I miss the memo when that changed?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:19 PM (0LHZx)
Personal choices up to the big, red line of infringing on other peoples fundamental, inalienable rights, of which I think we can all agree "life" is one.
For example, I don't like my neighbor. But I don't have the right to go out and shoot him in the face with a shotgun. Even if that was my choice and what I wanted to do.
But what we're talking about here is a group that gets in to inner city, mostly black schools to teach sex ed to students at a young age. They heavily advertise their services. They then bring women in with "free birth control" and other things, and if/when the woman does get pregnant, they steer them big time toward getting abortions. It's a big cash cow for PP, and now we learn it's an even bigger cash cow then we realized, since they sell the organs of the babies after they kill them.
That's their entire business model.
Now, "disparate impact" has been huge in the news recently. It was declared by SCOTUS that because an outcome has a disparate income on a certain race, it is thus "racist" and "unfair." This was in the context of housing.
There is a much larger disparate impact in specifically the black community when it comes to abortions then there is in housing or arrests or anything else you can point to.
Why is that? Well, while it is illegal to market alcohol to kids or advertise cigarettes, it is quite legal (and encouraged) to heavily market abortions to children / teens, especially those in heavily minority neighborhoods.
But putting all of that aside -- assuming the abortion rates were perfectly statistically the same as the population -- it's still wrong to kill another human being, whether that human being is your child or not.
And our laws reflect that. Adults go to jail for shaking their babies to death. Adults go to jail if their child dies due to the parents gross negligence.
How is this any different? Other than the veneer of legality?
If I'm not mistaken, I thought conservatives were all about personal choices? Did I miss the memo when that changed?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:19 PM (0LHZx)
Personal choices up to the big, red line of infringing on other peoples fundamental, inalienable rights, of which I think we can all agree "life" is one.
For example, I don't like my neighbor. But I don't have the right to go out and shoot him in the face with a shotgun. Even if that was my choice and what I wanted to do.
But what we're talking about here is a group that gets in to inner city, mostly black schools to teach sex ed to students at a young age. They heavily advertise their services. They then bring women in with "free birth control" and other things, and if/when the woman does get pregnant, they steer them big time toward getting abortions. It's a big cash cow for PP, and now we learn it's an even bigger cash cow then we realized, since they sell the organs of the babies after they kill them.
That's their entire business model.
Now, "disparate impact" has been huge in the news recently. It was declared by SCOTUS that because an outcome has a disparate income on a certain race, it is thus "racist" and "unfair." This was in the context of housing.
There is a much larger disparate impact in specifically the black community when it comes to abortions then there is in housing or arrests or anything else you can point to.
Why is that? Well, while it is illegal to market alcohol to kids or advertise cigarettes, it is quite legal (and encouraged) to heavily market abortions to children / teens, especially those in heavily minority neighborhoods.
But putting all of that aside -- assuming the abortion rates were perfectly statistically the same as the population -- it's still wrong to kill another human being, whether that human being is your child or not.
And our laws reflect that. Adults go to jail for shaking their babies to death. Adults go to jail if their child dies due to the parents gross negligence.
How is this any different? Other than the veneer of legality?
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 01:29 PM (AkOaV)
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what's the point
all it does is raise your blood pressure
Also helps to refine & polish your stance on an issue and to look for weak spots.
all it does is raise your blood pressure
Also helps to refine & polish your stance on an issue and to look for weak spots.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2015 01:29 PM (oqhrS)
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What's that? You're a 15 year old pregnant rape
victim? Fuck you, you're having that baby. I don't care if yor life is
ruined. It's God's will.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:26 PM (0LHZx)
Aaaaand THERE you go with the fucking strawman again. 99.9% of the time, any pro-lifer you ask will say that rape and incest exceptions should be allowed. So quit fucking that chicken before you give your dick salmonella, Moo.
And btw, Planned Parenthood likes to abort rape babies and then send the victims back home to their rapists to be raped again without ever reporting it to the police. Why would they do that, when rape is such a moneymaking strategy for them?
victim? Fuck you, you're having that baby. I don't care if yor life is
ruined. It's God's will.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:26 PM (0LHZx)
Aaaaand THERE you go with the fucking strawman again. 99.9% of the time, any pro-lifer you ask will say that rape and incest exceptions should be allowed. So quit fucking that chicken before you give your dick salmonella, Moo.
And btw, Planned Parenthood likes to abort rape babies and then send the victims back home to their rapists to be raped again without ever reporting it to the police. Why would they do that, when rape is such a moneymaking strategy for them?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:29 PM (4df7R)
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I'm tired of getting along to go along.
If it's Cruz or Trump vs. Hillary or Sanders I'll vote for the GOP guy.
If it's Jeb!, Boobio, or Walker, I'll sit it out and let it burn.
If it's Cruz or Trump vs. Hillary or Sanders I'll vote for the GOP guy.
If it's Jeb!, Boobio, or Walker, I'll sit it out and let it burn.
Posted by: day-drinking logprof at August 12, 2015 01:29 PM (vsbNu)
466
At least Josef Mengele was a) honest about his motives and b) not in it for the money.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 12, 2015 01:29 PM (659DL)
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***"Its no accident that Margaret Sanger and Adolph Hitler were friends and supported each other's ideals."***
Hell, Sanger said Hitler's vision was too narrow.
Hell, Sanger said Hitler's vision was too narrow.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:29 PM (xSCb6)
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What's that? I'm hiding behind about 1% of abortions? Even though no one here said anything about them?
Wow, I really am a turd.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Wow, I really am a turd.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:29 PM (Spluw)
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For me its not so much moo moo as it is that what he says is such a useful springboard to make a larger point about worldview and culture. As someone noted above: fiscal conservatism comes from social conservatism. If you abandon objective ethical restraint, then fiscal conservatism inevitably goes by the wayside because it lacks any anchor point or philosophical basis.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 01:30 PM (39g3+)
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Also helps to refine & polish your stance on an issue and to look for weak spots.
Fish in a barrel. Palin Steele is nothing but weak spots.
Fish in a barrel. Palin Steele is nothing but weak spots.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 12, 2015 01:30 PM (evdj2)
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"You do realize that it was the SoCons who put GWB in the white house and kept him there right?"
Again...you're living in the past...Get in the Game or get the hell out of the way. God won't hate you just because you play dirty politics.
Again...you're living in the past...Get in the Game or get the hell out of the way. God won't hate you just because you play dirty politics.
Posted by: The Nutty Irishman at August 12, 2015 01:30 PM (SJi0a)
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and, again, Moo -- PP has never FORCED anyone to do anything.
Their original mission was to set up in black neighborhoods and pay black people and other "undesirables" to get themselves sterilized.
There was a big marketing push to get black men and others snipped so that they could not produce children and spread their "lesser" DNA in to the great Aryan gene pool.
The same exact thinking behind the Nazis programs to get rid of their "undesirables", and the same exact thinking behind Jim Crow laws (keep blacks out of "polite society).
It's... a barbaric and sick way of thinking.
Their original mission was to set up in black neighborhoods and pay black people and other "undesirables" to get themselves sterilized.
There was a big marketing push to get black men and others snipped so that they could not produce children and spread their "lesser" DNA in to the great Aryan gene pool.
The same exact thinking behind the Nazis programs to get rid of their "undesirables", and the same exact thinking behind Jim Crow laws (keep blacks out of "polite society).
It's... a barbaric and sick way of thinking.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 01:30 PM (AkOaV)
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I'm so enamored of Prenatal Parts turning into a chop shop that I've chosen to pretend that this is suddenly about rape victims.
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:31 PM (Spluw)
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I hate these evil motherfuckers.
But I'd like to offer an insight on Trump and Limbaugh in a new thread.
Ace or somebody, if you please.
I hate these evil motherfuckers.
But I'd like to offer an insight on Trump and Limbaugh in a new thread.
Ace or somebody, if you please.
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 12, 2015 01:31 PM (l2dSQ)
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Yes, my wife and I DO help out. We give quite a bit of money to Thrive, and my kids help out there on a volunteer basis. The women who opt in for keeing their children are some of the happiest, and most blessed women I've ever encountered.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 12, 2015 01:28 PM (5buP
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Fair enough. At least you put your money/time where your mouth is. But still it should be up to the woman to make that decision.
And I doubt those women are happy.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 12, 2015 01:28 PM (5buP
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Fair enough. At least you put your money/time where your mouth is. But still it should be up to the woman to make that decision.
And I doubt those women are happy.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:31 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 12, 2015 01:31 PM (evdj2)
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Josef Mengele was in it for The Science! His experiments were to discover the limits of human ability to survive environmental misery and to find a way to encourage more twins to be born, learning about genetics and birth.
He was evil and insane, but not driven by greed.
He was evil and insane, but not driven by greed.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 01:31 PM (39g3+)
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Oh so a pregnant woman should be forced to have a baby in order to make adoptive parents happy.
And you call me a monster?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:22 PM (0LHZx)
Yes, I'm just that horrid.
Did you even read what you wrote? Where is it written that pregnancy and childbirth are some sort of horrible torture? And yet, you would kill a child to avoid just that.
You are the sort of person who believes that pregnancy is some sort of horrible illness, aren't you?
The choice already happened. The pregnancy was the natural outcome of that choice. Murder is not the natural outcome of that choice. The baby should not be punished, i.e. murdered, because of the irresponsibility of the mother.
And she is a mother, whether she likes it or not.
Murder is illegal for a good reason. The right to life is "endowed by our creator" according to the founding documents of this country. You keep arguing that morality is consistent with the laws of this country--there is no "right to life" written into laws because it is above those written laws. And yet, you feel you can ignore them because you consider murder a viable choice.
There is no way to convince you of these things, because obviously you are defending a "choice" you made earlier and have never resolved, but at some point you will meet your maker and it will up to you to defend that "choice." I am glad it is you and not me in that instant.
And you call me a monster?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:22 PM (0LHZx)
Yes, I'm just that horrid.
Did you even read what you wrote? Where is it written that pregnancy and childbirth are some sort of horrible torture? And yet, you would kill a child to avoid just that.
You are the sort of person who believes that pregnancy is some sort of horrible illness, aren't you?
The choice already happened. The pregnancy was the natural outcome of that choice. Murder is not the natural outcome of that choice. The baby should not be punished, i.e. murdered, because of the irresponsibility of the mother.
And she is a mother, whether she likes it or not.
Murder is illegal for a good reason. The right to life is "endowed by our creator" according to the founding documents of this country. You keep arguing that morality is consistent with the laws of this country--there is no "right to life" written into laws because it is above those written laws. And yet, you feel you can ignore them because you consider murder a viable choice.
There is no way to convince you of these things, because obviously you are defending a "choice" you made earlier and have never resolved, but at some point you will meet your maker and it will up to you to defend that "choice." I am glad it is you and not me in that instant.
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 12, 2015 01:31 PM (+YMhA)
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But I don't think a woman should have the right to decide what is done with an aborted fetus after the fact.
Next .....
But I don't think a family should have the right to decide what is done with a murder victim's corpse after the fact.
Next .....
But I don't think a family should have the right to decide what is done with a murder victim's corpse after the fact.
Posted by: cind at August 12, 2015 01:31 PM (nRbbW)
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I like my baby parts extra crunchy.
Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at August 12, 2015 01:31 PM (Dwehj)
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What's that? You're a 15 year old pregnant rape
victim? Fuck you, you're having that baby. I don't care if yor life is
ruined. It's God's will.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Yes, every single abortion performed is on 15-yo rape victims. All of them.
victim? Fuck you, you're having that baby. I don't care if yor life is
ruined. It's God's will.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Yes, every single abortion performed is on 15-yo rape victims. All of them.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at August 12, 2015 01:32 PM (/Ho8c)
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"Do you have any source that backs up this remarkable claim?"
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***"Don't need one....."****
Actually, you do. You made an unfounded assertion. You claim you don't need to back it up.
You have beclowned yourself.
You lose.
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***"Don't need one....."****
Actually, you do. You made an unfounded assertion. You claim you don't need to back it up.
You have beclowned yourself.
You lose.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:32 PM (xSCb6)
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Again...you're living in the past...Get in the Game or get the hell out of the way. God won't hate you just because you play dirty politics.
Posted by: The Nutty Irishman
True that! Abandon every position you've held, and all will come to you! Ask Mitch the Bitch.
Posted by: The Nutty Irishman
True that! Abandon every position you've held, and all will come to you! Ask Mitch the Bitch.
Posted by: Papist Bograt at August 12, 2015 01:32 PM (Spluw)
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This disgruntled former employee is clearly a self hating woman who wants to inflict her warped pro-life views on all females. (sarc)
Posted by: Central Scrutinizer at August 12, 2015 01:32 PM (vI+F1)
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Its like being at a Maury Povich live show, some jackass in the audience can negate an entire argument with one emotive outburst because its filled with unthinking emotive intellectually immature trash.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 01:25 PM (39g3+)
She a damned liar. And that lie detector test? All bullshit, baby. So is that DNA test. And those hidden videos, too. You know I love you.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 01:25 PM (39g3+)
She a damned liar. And that lie detector test? All bullshit, baby. So is that DNA test. And those hidden videos, too. You know I love you.
Posted by: Every Guilty Boyfriend Who Shows Up On Maury Povich at August 12, 2015 01:32 PM (XHR9b)
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Something that still amazes me in the internet age and all the info at peoples fingertips is that many think PP is more of a birth control/mammogram/parent advice organization. Including, get this, donald trump.
Something that still amazes me in the internet age and all the info at peoples fingertips is that many think PP is more of a birth control/mammogram/parent advice organization. Including, get this, donald trump.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 12, 2015 01:32 PM (ODxAs)
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Remember everyone: being rich and happy is your highest goal, that is the zenith of human existence. You are on this earth only to be happy and wealthy, and that's it. Hence, any means to achieve that must necessarily be right and good.
This is why worldviews matter. This is why what you believe and why you believe it matters most of all in your life.
This is why worldviews matter. This is why what you believe and why you believe it matters most of all in your life.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 01:33 PM (39g3+)
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Planned Parenthood is opposed to over the counter bill control pills. Gee, I wonder why that is???!!/sarc.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2015 01:33 PM (OSs/l)
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Something that still amazes me in the internet age and all the info at peoples fingertips is that many think PP is more of a birth control/mammogram/parent advice organization. Including, get this, donald trump.
In fairness, most people avert their eyes from this kind of horror.
In fairness, most people avert their eyes from this kind of horror.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 12, 2015 01:33 PM (evdj2)
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By the way how can SoCons have the rape/incest rule? It's a "baby" even if conceived by rape. So you're OK with killing some "babies" but not others?
MONSTERS!!
MONSTERS!!
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:33 PM (0LHZx)
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I think even people who are libertine about abortion should have the decency to argue for halting *all* government funding of PP and similar organizations2, given that in their worldview abortion is supposed to be a "deeply personal" "choice."
When my tax moneys are supporting abortion, it's not a choice.
When my tax moneys are supporting abortion, it's not a choice.
Posted by: day-drinking logprof at August 12, 2015 01:33 PM (vsbNu)
492
Evil is subjective. Legality is not.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:07 PM (0LHZx)
Yep. Auschwitz was totally legal under the prevailing government authority.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:07 PM (0LHZx)
Yep. Auschwitz was totally legal under the prevailing government authority.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 12, 2015 01:34 PM (IAqcp)
493
And I doubt those women are happy.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:31 PM (0LHZx)
Believe it or not, women tend to love their children. I understand why you wouldn't realize that fact, since your mother hated you.
And I doubt those women are happy.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:31 PM (0LHZx)
Believe it or not, women tend to love their children. I understand why you wouldn't realize that fact, since your mother hated you.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:34 PM (4df7R)
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***"MooMoo isn't a troll. He's not posting because he's trying to tease people into responding just to laugh at their outrage. he's not doing it because he wants a reaction."***
Ummm, that's pretty much the definition of trolling.
Ummm, that's pretty much the definition of trolling.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:34 PM (xSCb6)
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But still it should be up to the woman to make that decision.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Unless the woman is attacked in Colorado and the law tells her to fuck off, because, according to mini-moo, she didn't lose a child. She lost a revenue stream for prenatal Parts.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Unless the woman is attacked in Colorado and the law tells her to fuck off, because, according to mini-moo, she didn't lose a child. She lost a revenue stream for prenatal Parts.
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:34 PM (Spluw)
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Next .....
But I don't think a family should have the right to decide what is done with a murder victim's corpse after the fact.
Next...
But I don't think an old person should have the right to decide what to do with the end of their life.
Next...
But I don't think mentally damaged people and the insane should have the right to decide whether they live or die.
Next...
But I don't think a family should have the right to decide what is done with a murder victim's corpse after the fact.
Next...
But I don't think an old person should have the right to decide what to do with the end of their life.
Next...
But I don't think mentally damaged people and the insane should have the right to decide whether they live or die.
Next...
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 01:35 PM (39g3+)
497
My colleague just pointed out to me: did Planned Parenthood send "body parts" through the mail/US Postal Service? Did they follow all the regulations?
Posted by: Sue at August 12, 2015 01:35 PM (eEGfT)
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437 So a woman voluntarily getting abortion is the same as a Jew getting put on a train to a death camp at gun point.
Yeah sounds about right.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:21 PM (0LHZx)
The baby being murdered is the Jew on the train, you imbecile.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:25 PM (4df7R)
Uh yeah, moo, what Beth said.
If you don't see that, I don't know what else to say.
The baby has NO CHOICE in the matter. At least the Jews on the train has some chance of escape or at the very least could die on their feet.
The baby in the womb? Nah, we don't even give them pain killers before we crush their skulls with forceps and tear them limb from limb (carefully, in order to protect those valuable organs) from their mothers womb.
If women knew what abortion actually entailed, i doubt anywhere near as many would have an abortion.
Yeah sounds about right.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:21 PM (0LHZx)
The baby being murdered is the Jew on the train, you imbecile.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:25 PM (4df7R)
Uh yeah, moo, what Beth said.
If you don't see that, I don't know what else to say.
The baby has NO CHOICE in the matter. At least the Jews on the train has some chance of escape or at the very least could die on their feet.
The baby in the womb? Nah, we don't even give them pain killers before we crush their skulls with forceps and tear them limb from limb (carefully, in order to protect those valuable organs) from their mothers womb.
If women knew what abortion actually entailed, i doubt anywhere near as many would have an abortion.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 01:35 PM (AkOaV)
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Ummm, that's pretty much the definition of trolling.
Right, and thats what the evil piece of shit is NOT doing. What it IS doing is because it thinks that it is 100% correct and that we're ruining everything with our morals and ethics.
Right, and thats what the evil piece of shit is NOT doing. What it IS doing is because it thinks that it is 100% correct and that we're ruining everything with our morals and ethics.
Posted by: GMan at August 12, 2015 01:36 PM (sxq57)
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I think life is much more convenient when I identify the things that are moral by whether they make my life easier and more comfortable. Anything that would cost me money or inconvenience me in any way is by definition immoral.
I arrived at this simple, elegant moral code when I decided that me and my desires were indeed the center of the universe and all other persons, beings, desires, and needs were of secondary importance. It was quite liberating when I did this.
I arrived at this simple, elegant moral code when I decided that me and my desires were indeed the center of the universe and all other persons, beings, desires, and needs were of secondary importance. It was quite liberating when I did this.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Shipping for Atrocities, Monstrosities, and Barbarisms at the Outrage Outlet! at August 12, 2015 01:36 PM (hLRSq)
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>>By the way how can SoCons have the rape/incest rule? It's a "baby" even if conceived by rape. So you're OK with killing some "babies" but not others?
If you weren't so dense and dismissive, you might realize this is real ethical issue for many pro-life people. But you don't really want to discuss that, you want to make people give up any sense of morality or fight for issues they believe in so you can get yours.
Good luck with that world view.
If you weren't so dense and dismissive, you might realize this is real ethical issue for many pro-life people. But you don't really want to discuss that, you want to make people give up any sense of morality or fight for issues they believe in so you can get yours.
Good luck with that world view.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2015 01:36 PM (OGm46)
502
Yep. Auschwitz was totally legal under the prevailing government authority.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
I knew that I was on firm legal footing!!
Yep. Auschwitz was totally legal under the prevailing government authority.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
I knew that I was on firm legal footing!!
Posted by: Al Gore at August 12, 2015 01:36 PM (Spluw)
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By the way how can SoCons have the rape/incest rule?
It's a "baby" even if conceived by rape. So you're OK with killing some
"babies" but not others?
MONSTERS!!
We've hit Peak Idiocy.... it's all downhill from here.......
It's a "baby" even if conceived by rape. So you're OK with killing some
"babies" but not others?
MONSTERS!!
We've hit Peak Idiocy.... it's all downhill from here.......
Posted by: Dirty Randy at August 12, 2015 01:36 PM (jjaLl)
504
Isn't your lunch hour over now, Moo/Moo?
Can't you pat yourself on the back for roping in so many of us and go back to your work?
Can't you pat yourself on the back for roping in so many of us and go back to your work?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2015 01:36 PM (OSs/l)
505
Ummm, that's pretty much the definition of trolling.
I guess you missed all the times I repeated the word "not" in that part you quoted.
I guess you missed all the times I repeated the word "not" in that part you quoted.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 01:36 PM (39g3+)
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497 My colleague just pointed out to me: did Planned Parenthood send "body parts" through the mail/US Postal Service? Did they follow all the regulations?
Posted by: Sue at August 12, 2015 01:35 PM (eEGfT)
How about this one?
I, as an adult of sound mind, cannot sell one of my kidneys to someone (legally). I can donate, but not sell.
Yet when it comes to babies who are way too young to consent to anything, it's cool to sell their organs.
Posted by: Sue at August 12, 2015 01:35 PM (eEGfT)
How about this one?
I, as an adult of sound mind, cannot sell one of my kidneys to someone (legally). I can donate, but not sell.
Yet when it comes to babies who are way too young to consent to anything, it's cool to sell their organs.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 01:36 PM (AkOaV)
507
I do not understand this world view on display.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at August 12, 2015 01:36 PM (/Ho8c)
508
Believe it or not, women tend to love their children. I understand why you wouldn't realize that fact, since your mother hated you.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:34 PM (4df7R)
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One can love their child and be unhappy simultaneously.
It's always amusing how SoCons - the people who love everyone and everything - are the nastiest people when the encounter someone who has a different point of view.
My wife went through something similar when she was in a group with a bunch of religious nuts who hounded her for daring to not go to church weekly.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:34 PM (4df7R)
__________
One can love their child and be unhappy simultaneously.
It's always amusing how SoCons - the people who love everyone and everything - are the nastiest people when the encounter someone who has a different point of view.
My wife went through something similar when she was in a group with a bunch of religious nuts who hounded her for daring to not go to church weekly.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:37 PM (0LHZx)
509
Hey, Central Scrutinizer, how is Joe doing?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 01:37 PM (39g3+)
510
ACE ACE ACE,
Consider what it means that Rush LED this segment with a caller who pointed out how refreshing it is that Trump "brags about his wealth".
C'mon! What could this possibly mean?????
ACE ACE ACE,
Consider what it means that Rush LED this segment with a caller who pointed out how refreshing it is that Trump "brags about his wealth".
C'mon! What could this possibly mean?????
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 12, 2015 01:37 PM (l2dSQ)
511
***"I'll take Political Myths for $800 Alex.....
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:29 PM (0LHZx)"***
No, you stupid, ignorant twat, it's a fact. GWB famously targeted evangelicals. They were his center of gravity. He secured that base first and then courted the middle.
But you wouldn't recognize a fact if it shoved itself through your relaxed anus.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:29 PM (0LHZx)"***
No, you stupid, ignorant twat, it's a fact. GWB famously targeted evangelicals. They were his center of gravity. He secured that base first and then courted the middle.
But you wouldn't recognize a fact if it shoved itself through your relaxed anus.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:37 PM (xSCb6)
512
Something that still amazes me in the internet age and all the info at peoples fingertips is that many think PP is more of a birth control/mammogram/parent advice organization. Including, get this, donald trump.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 12, 2015 01:32 PM (ODxAs)
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If he stays in, he's going to have to "evolve" his opinion on this, or else he's going to lose a lot of support he has now. If there's a glaring crack in his campaign, it'll be this.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 12, 2015 01:32 PM (ODxAs)
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If he stays in, he's going to have to "evolve" his opinion on this, or else he's going to lose a lot of support he has now. If there's a glaring crack in his campaign, it'll be this.
Posted by: Soona at August 12, 2015 01:38 PM (P25Hh)
513
Believe it or not, women tend to love their children. I understand why you wouldn't realize that fact, since your mother hated you.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth
My mommy hatched me with care, and did not, as some have surmised, apply excessive pressure to my shell.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth
My mommy hatched me with care, and did not, as some have surmised, apply excessive pressure to my shell.
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:38 PM (Spluw)
514
The sad thing about the internet is that its made it impossible for anyone to point out when someone actually is agreeing with Nazis and has the same viewpoint by simply someone shouting "Godwin" as if that eliminates logic, truth, and reason.
That's why I usually use Stalin as the example, but none of the Soviet death camps are well known by name as Auschwitz is.
That's why I usually use Stalin as the example, but none of the Soviet death camps are well known by name as Auschwitz is.
Posted by: Weirddave at August 12, 2015 01:38 PM (WvS3w)
515
490
By the way how can SoCons have the rape/incest rule? It's a "baby" even
if conceived by rape. So you're OK with killing some "babies" but not
others?
MONSTERS!!
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:33 PM (0LHZx)
I would prefer victims of rape NOT abort their babies, but in fact be given all the support and aid they need to give birth to the child, who will then be adopted into a loving home.
I would also make sure the rapist was caught and thrown in prison for the rest of his life. Preferably subject to the death penalty, but that's just me.
But I would not force a rape victim to give birth, b/c the woman did not CHOOSE to be raped. Her choice was taken away by her rapist. I would mourn the baby, and I would hope that the mother would mourn the loss of life, too.
But a woman who has sex and then doesn't like the result? She made her CHOICE when she spread her legs. And as for the father? He made his choice, too. He should be just as involved and held to account as the mother. And we should make sure that he is subject to all the shame possible if he doesn't do his duty and marry the woman.
By the way how can SoCons have the rape/incest rule? It's a "baby" even
if conceived by rape. So you're OK with killing some "babies" but not
others?
MONSTERS!!
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:33 PM (0LHZx)
I would prefer victims of rape NOT abort their babies, but in fact be given all the support and aid they need to give birth to the child, who will then be adopted into a loving home.
I would also make sure the rapist was caught and thrown in prison for the rest of his life. Preferably subject to the death penalty, but that's just me.
But I would not force a rape victim to give birth, b/c the woman did not CHOOSE to be raped. Her choice was taken away by her rapist. I would mourn the baby, and I would hope that the mother would mourn the loss of life, too.
But a woman who has sex and then doesn't like the result? She made her CHOICE when she spread her legs. And as for the father? He made his choice, too. He should be just as involved and held to account as the mother. And we should make sure that he is subject to all the shame possible if he doesn't do his duty and marry the woman.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (4df7R)
516
its about time that PP workers have to give up their body parts...i know they just want to help science
Posted by: torabora at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (aLkec)
517
Fair enough. At least you put your money/time where your mouth is. But still it should be up to the woman to make that decision.
And I doubt those women are happy.
1) They do make that decision. And, when the see an ultrasound of their "products of conception" they almost always opt in to keep the child.
2) You would be wrong. They are happy, and b/c of the help they receive from Thrive and other groups, they are leaps ahead of their peers.
And I doubt those women are happy.
1) They do make that decision. And, when the see an ultrasound of their "products of conception" they almost always opt in to keep the child.
2) You would be wrong. They are happy, and b/c of the help they receive from Thrive and other groups, they are leaps ahead of their peers.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (5buP8)
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (l2dSQ)
520
If you weren't so dense and dismissive, you might realize this is real ethical issue for many pro-life people. But you don't really want to discuss that, you want to make people give up any sense of morality or fight for issues they believe in so you can get yours.
Good luck with that world view.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2015 01:36 PM (OGm46)
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No it's just hypocritical of you. I'm consistent. I'm fine with abortions. Period.
You on the other hand call me a monster for being OK with 100% of abortions (which you call murders), but you're OK with 2-3% of murders.
Do you really not see why your position is ridiculous? Of course youd on't.
Good luck with that world view.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2015 01:36 PM (OGm46)
___________
No it's just hypocritical of you. I'm consistent. I'm fine with abortions. Period.
You on the other hand call me a monster for being OK with 100% of abortions (which you call murders), but you're OK with 2-3% of murders.
Do you really not see why your position is ridiculous? Of course youd on't.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (0LHZx)
521
We've hit Peak Idiocy.... it's all downhill from here.......
Posted by: Dirty Randy at August 12, 2015 01:36 PM (jjaLl)
No way - idiocy is the most abundant and powerful resource in the universe.
Posted by: Dirty Randy at August 12, 2015 01:36 PM (jjaLl)
No way - idiocy is the most abundant and powerful resource in the universe.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Shipping for Atrocities, Monstrosities, and Barbarisms at the Outrage Outlet! at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (hLRSq)
522
a bunch of religious nuts who hounded her for daring to not go to church weekly.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
has anyone else noticed that i'm retreating first to rape victims and now to church attendence?
And did you know that this cost the GOP 5 bazillion votes yesterday!?! Wake up!!!!
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
has anyone else noticed that i'm retreating first to rape victims and now to church attendence?
And did you know that this cost the GOP 5 bazillion votes yesterday!?! Wake up!!!!
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (Spluw)
523
What other problems can we solve with this wonderful tool called "murder"?
Posted by: Rick Tingles at August 12, 2015 01:26 PM (j2ei0)
I'll get back to you on that!
Posted by: Rick Tingles at August 12, 2015 01:26 PM (j2ei0)
I'll get back to you on that!
Posted by: What other problems can we solve with this wonderful tool called "murder"? Posted by: Rick TingleEz at August 12, 2015 01:40 PM (ftVQq)
524
My abortion clinics with abort socons only. And there will be a free Lamborghini for the first five "patients" each day!
Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at August 12, 2015 01:40 PM (Dwehj)
525
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 12, 2015 01:31 PM (+YMhA)
The thing is -- you're not avoiding the horror of child birth by getting an abortion.
The woman still has to birth the baby.
It's just dead when it comes out, because right before the head crowns, the doctor either injects him/her with chemicals to stop his/her heart, or in the case of PP wanting to maintain their organs, the doc just crushes the babies skull.
The thing is -- you're not avoiding the horror of child birth by getting an abortion.
The woman still has to birth the baby.
It's just dead when it comes out, because right before the head crowns, the doctor either injects him/her with chemicals to stop his/her heart, or in the case of PP wanting to maintain their organs, the doc just crushes the babies skull.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 01:40 PM (AkOaV)
526
I do not understand this world view on display.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at August 12, 2015 01:36 PM (/Ho8c)
See my #500.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at August 12, 2015 01:36 PM (/Ho8c)
See my #500.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Shipping for Atrocities, Monstrosities, and Barbarisms at the Outrage Outlet! at August 12, 2015 01:40 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Mr. Healthy Penis at August 12, 2015 01:41 PM (HstNY)
528
***"Again...you're living in the past...Get in the Game or get the hell out of the way. God won't hate you just because you play dirty politics."***
It's called going with what has been demonstrated to work. The GOP abandoned that in 2008 and 2012 and went with your demonstrated losing strategy.
Results matter. But you keep banging your head against that wall and expecting it to improve your analytical ability.
It's called going with what has been demonstrated to work. The GOP abandoned that in 2008 and 2012 and went with your demonstrated losing strategy.
Results matter. But you keep banging your head against that wall and expecting it to improve your analytical ability.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:41 PM (xSCb6)
529
It's always amusing how SoCons - the people who love everyone and everything - are the nastiest people when the encounter someone who has a different point of view. My wife went through something similar when she was in a group with a bunch of religious nuts who hounded her for daring to not go to church weekly.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:37 PM (0LHZx)
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I don't believe you or your little anecdote about your wife.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:37 PM (0LHZx)
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I don't believe you or your little anecdote about your wife.
Posted by: Soona at August 12, 2015 01:41 PM (P25Hh)
530
$20 shipping $180 HANDLING, duh, somebody has to do the sorting of the "products of conception" and those type employees don't come cheap.
Posted by: bour3 at August 12, 2015 01:41 PM (5x3+2)
531
What other problems can we solve with this wonderful tool called "murder"?
Posted by: Rick Tingles at August 12, 2015 01:26 PM (j2ei0)
I'll get back to you on that!
Sockpuppeting be hard yo!
What other problems can we solve with this wonderful tool called "murder"?
Posted by: Rick Tingles at August 12, 2015 01:26 PM (j2ei0)
I'll get back to you on that!
Sockpuppeting be hard yo!
Posted by: Ezekiel Jonathan "Zeke" Emanuel at August 12, 2015 01:41 PM (ftVQq)
532
My wife went through something similar when she
was in a group with a bunch of religious nuts who hounded her for daring
to not go to church weekly.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:37 PM (0LHZx)
Then she should have left the group.
You think I'm being nasty? You have quite a thin skin, dullard.
My wife went through something similar when she
was in a group with a bunch of religious nuts who hounded her for daring
to not go to church weekly.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:37 PM (0LHZx)
Then she should have left the group.
You think I'm being nasty? You have quite a thin skin, dullard.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:41 PM (4df7R)
533
Yes, I can imagine your wife was in such a group, Moo Moo,'sarc.
I think you're engaging in some hyperbole here, Moo. Either that or a complete fabrication In fact, I now think that you are simply here to get a response and and that's it.
I'm done with responding to. Permanently. Sorry I chimed in in the first place..
I think you're engaging in some hyperbole here, Moo. Either that or a complete fabrication In fact, I now think that you are simply here to get a response and and that's it.
I'm done with responding to. Permanently. Sorry I chimed in in the first place..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2015 01:41 PM (OSs/l)
534
But a woman who has sex and then doesn't like the result? She made her CHOICE when she spread her legs. And as for the father? He made his choice, too. He should be just as involved and held to account as the mother. And we should make sure that he is subject to all the shame possible if he doesn't do his duty and marry the woman.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (4df7R)
__________
OK so the 15 year old girl who chose to have sex with her 16 year old high school dropout boyfriend and got pregnant. Fuck her future right? She made a choice, and choices have consequences.
So what if her and the child will be on welfare for life? Choices baby!!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (4df7R)
__________
OK so the 15 year old girl who chose to have sex with her 16 year old high school dropout boyfriend and got pregnant. Fuck her future right? She made a choice, and choices have consequences.
So what if her and the child will be on welfare for life? Choices baby!!
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:42 PM (0LHZx)
535
Do you really not see why your position is ridiculous? Of course youd on't.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (0LHZx)
Yes, most pro-life people are not 100% on board with "except for xyz cases" because it's not the babies fault.
OTOH, they can understand why a woman would take plan b at the hospital after being raped.
Or take a pill cocktail to "end the pregnancy" a few days after being raped.
They might not support it, but they don't want to send that woman to jail.
A littttllleee different than what we're talking about here.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (0LHZx)
Yes, most pro-life people are not 100% on board with "except for xyz cases" because it's not the babies fault.
OTOH, they can understand why a woman would take plan b at the hospital after being raped.
Or take a pill cocktail to "end the pregnancy" a few days after being raped.
They might not support it, but they don't want to send that woman to jail.
A littttllleee different than what we're talking about here.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 01:42 PM (AkOaV)
536
I'm consistent.
All of your body parts being level in a ditch is consistent too.
it ain't exactly a winning position for political office. But it will do wonders at a stockholders meeting at Prenatal Parts.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
All of your body parts being level in a ditch is consistent too.
it ain't exactly a winning position for political office. But it will do wonders at a stockholders meeting at Prenatal Parts.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:42 PM (Spluw)
537
>>No it's just hypocritical of you. I'm consistent. I'm fine with abortions. Period.
>>You on the other hand call me a monster for being OK with 100% of abortions (which you call murders), but you're OK with 2-3% of murders.
>>Do you really not see why your position is ridiculous? Of course youd on't.
It's not hypocritical in the least if you are capable of critical thinking. MWR responded to your typically condescending, a condescension you haven't earned I would add, attitude up thread. She said it better than I could.
And I'm not particularly socially conservative, I'm just not an amoral ghoul.
>>You on the other hand call me a monster for being OK with 100% of abortions (which you call murders), but you're OK with 2-3% of murders.
>>Do you really not see why your position is ridiculous? Of course youd on't.
It's not hypocritical in the least if you are capable of critical thinking. MWR responded to your typically condescending, a condescension you haven't earned I would add, attitude up thread. She said it better than I could.
And I'm not particularly socially conservative, I'm just not an amoral ghoul.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 12, 2015 01:42 PM (OGm46)
538
RUSH:
"It used to be that WEALTH was a sign that someone was doing something right!"
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (l2dSQ)
We're in the Age of the Clinton Foundation and Solyndra. Things have changed a little bit.
"It used to be that WEALTH was a sign that someone was doing something right!"
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (l2dSQ)
We're in the Age of the Clinton Foundation and Solyndra. Things have changed a little bit.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Shipping for Atrocities, Monstrosities, and Barbarisms at the Outrage Outlet! at August 12, 2015 01:42 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 12, 2015 01:42 PM (l2dSQ)
540
No way - idiocy is the most abundant and powerful resource in the universe.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Shipping for Atrocities, Monstrosities, and
Barbarisms at the Outrage Outlet! at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (hLRSq)
Agreed!
But in this case I was referring to just this thread... still, I may have jumped the gun...
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Shipping for Atrocities, Monstrosities, and
Barbarisms at the Outrage Outlet! at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (hLRSq)
Agreed!
But in this case I was referring to just this thread... still, I may have jumped the gun...Posted by: Dirty Randy at August 12, 2015 01:43 PM (jjaLl)
541
OK so the 15 year old girl who chose to have sex with her 16 year old high school dropout boyfriend and got pregnant. Fuck her future right? She made a choice, and choices have consequences.
So what if her and the child will be on welfare for life? Choices baby!!
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:42 PM (0LHZx)
How about the 16 year old single mother who thought her baby daddy loved her and was going to support her and raise the kids, only to find out he took off with another girl?
Can she kill her 3 month old baby when the baby daddy leaves? Or is there something wrong with that? If so, why is that not OKAY by your rationale?
So what if her and the child will be on welfare for life? Choices baby!!
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:42 PM (0LHZx)
How about the 16 year old single mother who thought her baby daddy loved her and was going to support her and raise the kids, only to find out he took off with another girl?
Can she kill her 3 month old baby when the baby daddy leaves? Or is there something wrong with that? If so, why is that not OKAY by your rationale?
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 01:43 PM (AkOaV)
542
So what if anyone being aborted is being replaced by unfettered immigration? Pandering baby!
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:43 PM (Spluw)
543
519
RUSH:
"It used to be that WEALTH was a sign that someone was doing something right!"
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (l2dSQ)
AND Bankruptcy a sign you were a crook.
RUSH:
"It used to be that WEALTH was a sign that someone was doing something right!"
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (l2dSQ)
AND Bankruptcy a sign you were a crook.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 12, 2015 01:43 PM (0FSuD)
544
Basically, Moo wants to kill people rather than have them cost him money.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 12, 2015 01:44 PM (oVJmc)
545
My wife was attacked by a pack of rabid Lutheran church ladies wielding over-sized purses filled with jello. I hate you Jesuslanders.
Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at August 12, 2015 01:44 PM (Dwehj)
546
No it's just hypocritical of you. I'm consistent. I'm fine with abortions. Period.
You on the other hand call me a monster for being OK with 100% of
abortions (which you call murders), but you're OK with 2-3% of murders.
Do you really not see why your position is ridiculous? Of course youd on't.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (0LHZx)
It's not hypocritical of us. As stated, it is a genuine, ethical debate pro-lifers must have with themselves.
But you're a worthless slag who enjoys bathing in baby blood, so you don't understand things like ethics and morality.
You on the other hand call me a monster for being OK with 100% of
abortions (which you call murders), but you're OK with 2-3% of murders.
Do you really not see why your position is ridiculous? Of course youd on't.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (0LHZx)
It's not hypocritical of us. As stated, it is a genuine, ethical debate pro-lifers must have with themselves.
But you're a worthless slag who enjoys bathing in baby blood, so you don't understand things like ethics and morality.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:44 PM (4df7R)
547
533 Yes, I can imagine your wife was in such a group, Moo Moo,'sarc.
I think you're engaging in some hyperbole here, Moo. Either that or a complete fabrication In fact, I now think that you are simply here to get a response and and that's it.
I'm done with responding to. Permanently. Sorry I chimed in in the first place..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2015 01:41 PM (OSs/l)
_________
Not at all. She had to leave that group because of it. And I've encountered that attitude as well. Although unlike my wife, I just tell them to fuck off instead of crying about it.
That's not to say all religious people are assholes like that. But a lot of them are.
I think you're engaging in some hyperbole here, Moo. Either that or a complete fabrication In fact, I now think that you are simply here to get a response and and that's it.
I'm done with responding to. Permanently. Sorry I chimed in in the first place..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2015 01:41 PM (OSs/l)
_________
Not at all. She had to leave that group because of it. And I've encountered that attitude as well. Although unlike my wife, I just tell them to fuck off instead of crying about it.
That's not to say all religious people are assholes like that. But a lot of them are.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:44 PM (0LHZx)
548
>>> so it's unclear how Planned Parenthood justifies charging $200 per specimen, given federal law forbidding trade in tissue.
Real easy actually. Claim that the entire abortion procedure is a "Cost" and defer the cost against that procedure. The fact the procedure is payed for by soomeone else just means you get to keep that money for something else.
Real easy actually. Claim that the entire abortion procedure is a "Cost" and defer the cost against that procedure. The fact the procedure is payed for by soomeone else just means you get to keep that money for something else.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at August 12, 2015 01:44 PM (0q2P7)
549
But you're a worthless slag who enjoys bathing in baby blood, so you don't understand things like ethics and morality.
__________
LOL. Wow hyperbole much? This is exactly what I mean. You guys are so over the top, it's comical. And it's why nobody takes you seriously anymore.
__________
LOL. Wow hyperbole much? This is exactly what I mean. You guys are so over the top, it's comical. And it's why nobody takes you seriously anymore.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:45 PM (0LHZx)
550
***"Right, and thats what the evil piece of shit is NOT doing."***
Sure it is. He's doing it to get a reaction. And he's succeeding.
He's a fvcking troll plain and simple. If he were arguing in good faith, that would be one thing. But he's quite obviously not.
Sure it is. He's doing it to get a reaction. And he's succeeding.
He's a fvcking troll plain and simple. If he were arguing in good faith, that would be one thing. But he's quite obviously not.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:45 PM (xSCb6)
551
RC Sproul tells an amusing story about religious nuts hounding someone.
In the 70s, Billy Graham was in a Pro/Am golf tournament. The golfer he was paired with was asked what it was like golfing with Graham and he responded that had been awful. Graham had just gone on and on about God and "shoving religion down his throat" the whole 9 holes.
Later, when he'd calmed down, the golfer admitted Graham had said nothing of the sort, but that he'd had a bad day on the links and was lashing out.
In the 70s, Billy Graham was in a Pro/Am golf tournament. The golfer he was paired with was asked what it was like golfing with Graham and he responded that had been awful. Graham had just gone on and on about God and "shoving religion down his throat" the whole 9 holes.
Later, when he'd calmed down, the golfer admitted Graham had said nothing of the sort, but that he'd had a bad day on the links and was lashing out.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 12, 2015 01:45 PM (39g3+)
552
Shall I inject a little bit of good news in this desolate craggy spur of gloom near Mordor?
Columbia House has filed for Chapter 11. No more 13 albums for one penny.
Columbia House has filed for Chapter 11. No more 13 albums for one penny.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 12, 2015 01:45 PM (uNTa0)
553
The troll is good practice to seeing how the abortion under all circumstances argument is played. Now he is just a dumbshit spouting his illogical blather to get attention, but its revealing into how the leftists argue.
The troll is good practice to seeing how the abortion under all circumstances argument is played. Now he is just a dumbshit spouting his illogical blather to get attention, but its revealing into how the leftists argue.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 12, 2015 01:45 PM (ODxAs)
554
That's not to say all religious people are assholes like that. Some of them chop up babies for profit. I love them
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:46 PM (Spluw)
555
But you wouldn't recognize a fact if it
shoved itself through your relaxed anus.
Come for the hard hitting commentary, stay for the poetry.
shoved itself through your relaxed anus.
Come for the hard hitting commentary, stay for the poetry.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2015 01:46 PM (oqhrS)
556
That's not to say all religious people are assholes like that. But a lot of them are.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:44 PM (0LHZx)
And what about someone like me, who has only seen the inside of a church for funerals and weddings in the past 10-15 years?
This has nothing to do with god or churches or religion or anything. It has to do with killing other human beings.
And as a human being, I find it in my best interest to make sure it's not legal for someone to kill me because they find me "inconvenient" to their lifestyle.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:44 PM (0LHZx)
And what about someone like me, who has only seen the inside of a church for funerals and weddings in the past 10-15 years?
This has nothing to do with god or churches or religion or anything. It has to do with killing other human beings.
And as a human being, I find it in my best interest to make sure it's not legal for someone to kill me because they find me "inconvenient" to their lifestyle.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 01:46 PM (AkOaV)
557
\OK so the 15 year old girl who chose to have sex
with her 16 year old high school dropout boyfriend and got pregnant.
Fuck her future right? She made a choice, and choices have consequences.
So what if her and the child will be on welfare for life? Choices baby!!
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:42 PM (0LHZx)
First off, the kids shouldn't have been having sex. But whatever, teenagers + hormones = dumb decisions.
Why do you assume her future is fucked? Why do you assume either of their futures is fucked? Why do you assume they'll be on welfare for life? You have a very low opinion of people. That's not uncommon for a misanthropic lunatic who sips from crystal decanters full of semen, but it's amusing to see you appear proud of it.
with her 16 year old high school dropout boyfriend and got pregnant.
Fuck her future right? She made a choice, and choices have consequences.
So what if her and the child will be on welfare for life? Choices baby!!
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:42 PM (0LHZx)
First off, the kids shouldn't have been having sex. But whatever, teenagers + hormones = dumb decisions.
Why do you assume her future is fucked? Why do you assume either of their futures is fucked? Why do you assume they'll be on welfare for life? You have a very low opinion of people. That's not uncommon for a misanthropic lunatic who sips from crystal decanters full of semen, but it's amusing to see you appear proud of it.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:46 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: eleven at August 12, 2015 01:46 PM (ykfyK)
559
And it's why I'm here, using this nic.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:47 PM (Spluw)
560
If it's Jeb!, Boobio, or Walker, I'll sit it out and let it burn.
Posted by: day-drinking logprof at August 12, 2015 01:29 PM (vsbNu)
Not trying to pick a fight, truly interested in why you included Walker on this list.
Posted by: day-drinking logprof at August 12, 2015 01:29 PM (vsbNu)
Not trying to pick a fight, truly interested in why you included Walker on this list.
Posted by: tbodie at August 12, 2015 01:47 PM (Z2OIC)
561
"By the way how can SoCons have the rape/incest rule? It's a "baby" even if conceived by rape. So you're OK with killing some "babies" but not others?
MONSTERS!!"
Did you miss Rubio demolishing Chris Cuomo on this stupid point? Yes, you are using the same point as Chris Cuomo.
"By the way how can SoCons have the rape/incest rule? It's a "baby" even if conceived by rape. So you're OK with killing some "babies" but not others?
MONSTERS!!"
Did you miss Rubio demolishing Chris Cuomo on this stupid point? Yes, you are using the same point as Chris Cuomo.
Posted by: Benji Carver at August 12, 2015 01:47 PM (OD2ni)
562
Can she kill her 3 month old baby when the baby daddy leaves? Or is there something wrong with that? If so, why is that not OKAY by your rationale?
I think you're going to be waiting a loooong time for a (cogent) answer to that question...
I think you're going to be waiting a loooong time for a (cogent) answer to that question...
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 12, 2015 01:47 PM (5buP8)
563
Can she kill her 3 month old baby when the baby daddy leaves? Or is there something wrong with that? If so, why is that not OKAY by your rationale?
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 01:43 PM (AkOaV)
________
Using your logic in reverse, should a birth certificate be issued for a fetus? Why or why not?
Can she kill her 3 month old baby when the baby daddy leaves? Or is there something wrong with that? If so, why is that not OKAY by your rationale?
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 01:43 PM (AkOaV)
________
Using your logic in reverse, should a birth certificate be issued for a fetus? Why or why not?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:47 PM (0LHZx)
564
LOL. Wow hyperbole much? This is exactly what I mean. You guys are
so over the top, it's comical. And it's why nobody takes you seriously
anymore.
Ohhh...but your use of sub-moronic relative morality to burn mountains of strawmen just screams "seriousness"....
What fucking ever.
LOL. Wow hyperbole much? This is exactly what I mean. You guys are
so over the top, it's comical. And it's why nobody takes you seriously
anymore.
Ohhh...but your use of sub-moronic relative morality to burn mountains of strawmen just screams "seriousness"....
What fucking ever.
Posted by: Dirty Randy at August 12, 2015 01:47 PM (jjaLl)
565
No it's just hypocritical of you. I'm consistent. I'm fine with abortions. Period.
You on the other hand call me a monster for being OK with 100% of abortions (which you call murders), but you're OK with 2-3% of murders.
Do you really not see why your position is ridiculous? Of course youd on't.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (0LHZx)
Ah, yes, the tired old argument that we are not consistent because things in life are all so completely uncomplicated that we should always be 100% right.
It goes nicely with your argument that what is right is what makes us happy. Because everything moral and upstanding in life will always make us so happy. Because happiness in life is the ultimate moral good.
After all, you are morally superior to us because you are rich and happy, and that is all that really matters. Lives of babies don't make me happy, so they can just die, yes?
Sorry, but your happiness does not make anything moral, or ethical, or acceptable. In fact, you have no actual morality, you just have you. And I can't imagine how that could make you happy, because I'm pretty sure that the image in the mirror conveys no happiness at all.
You on the other hand call me a monster for being OK with 100% of abortions (which you call murders), but you're OK with 2-3% of murders.
Do you really not see why your position is ridiculous? Of course youd on't.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (0LHZx)
Ah, yes, the tired old argument that we are not consistent because things in life are all so completely uncomplicated that we should always be 100% right.
It goes nicely with your argument that what is right is what makes us happy. Because everything moral and upstanding in life will always make us so happy. Because happiness in life is the ultimate moral good.
After all, you are morally superior to us because you are rich and happy, and that is all that really matters. Lives of babies don't make me happy, so they can just die, yes?
Sorry, but your happiness does not make anything moral, or ethical, or acceptable. In fact, you have no actual morality, you just have you. And I can't imagine how that could make you happy, because I'm pretty sure that the image in the mirror conveys no happiness at all.
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 12, 2015 01:47 PM (+YMhA)
566
"Product of conception" must have focus grouped better than "pre-baby" or "lil organ patch"
==
That's the medically appropriate term.
Again, this is a specific term with a specific meaning relevant mostly to pathologist and OB-doctors. The term, of course, refers to fetal parts, but also to umbilical cord, amniotic membranes, placenta, and certain types of tissues that can arise from abnormal pregnancies where there is no actual fetus.
None of this has anything to do with whether PP should or shouldn't be selling off POCs to researchers for cash.
Personally, I don't have any problem with using this tissue to do research (as opposed to say, just tossing it in the trash, which is the only real viable alternative), but no, PP shouldn't be making money acting as POC collector. That's both illegal and for reasons well-detailed above, morally wrong.
==
That's the medically appropriate term.
Again, this is a specific term with a specific meaning relevant mostly to pathologist and OB-doctors. The term, of course, refers to fetal parts, but also to umbilical cord, amniotic membranes, placenta, and certain types of tissues that can arise from abnormal pregnancies where there is no actual fetus.
None of this has anything to do with whether PP should or shouldn't be selling off POCs to researchers for cash.
Personally, I don't have any problem with using this tissue to do research (as opposed to say, just tossing it in the trash, which is the only real viable alternative), but no, PP shouldn't be making money acting as POC collector. That's both illegal and for reasons well-detailed above, morally wrong.
Posted by: looking closely at August 12, 2015 01:47 PM (ji45d)
567
***"I guess you missed all the times I repeated the word "not" in that part you quoted."***
Actually missed one of them. My bad.
Disagree completely now. He's actively trolling the shit out of everyone.
Actually missed one of them. My bad.
Disagree completely now. He's actively trolling the shit out of everyone.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:48 PM (xSCb6)
568
Eleven
Or he is working on a new post about Amnesty International wanting to decriminalize sex trade.
Or he is working on a new post about Amnesty International wanting to decriminalize sex trade.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 12, 2015 01:48 PM (uNTa0)
569
"Product of conception"
You can find a haunting photo online taken at a WW2 concentration camp of a boy submerged in a tub of ice water (you can see ice chunks) with two Nazi doctors/technicians/researchers sitting by the edge of the tub chatting.
I haven't been able to get that photograph out of my mind since this horror expose began.
You can find a haunting photo online taken at a WW2 concentration camp of a boy submerged in a tub of ice water (you can see ice chunks) with two Nazi doctors/technicians/researchers sitting by the edge of the tub chatting.
I haven't been able to get that photograph out of my mind since this horror expose began.
Posted by: RM at August 12, 2015 01:48 PM (Sj3r3)
570
Shorter Moo: "You mongoloid scumbucket sister-fucking socons need to lay off the ad hominems."
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 12, 2015 01:48 PM (oVJmc)
571
Using your logic in reverse, should a birth certificate be issued for a fetus? Why or why not?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Because as the mighty mini-moo once said, it's the woman's choice.
Egad, I am stupid.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Because as the mighty mini-moo once said, it's the woman's choice.
Egad, I am stupid.
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:48 PM (Spluw)
572
Abortion defenders like to paint the picture of a troubled pregnant woman coolly talking with a doctor in a nice, clean office and coming to the rational conclusion that abortion is the way to move forward to greater happiness.
None of that is true. In most cases of abortion, there's a *man* --sex buddy, angry father, statutory rapist trying to destroy evidence, et al.-- putting pressure on her to "choose" to abort. Plain and simple.
None of that is true. In most cases of abortion, there's a *man* --sex buddy, angry father, statutory rapist trying to destroy evidence, et al.-- putting pressure on her to "choose" to abort. Plain and simple.
Posted by: day-drinking logprof at August 12, 2015 01:48 PM (vsbNu)
573
Basically, Moo wants to kill people rather than have them cost him money.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 12, 2015 01:44 PM (oVJmc)
He'd drown Tiny Tim in a heart beat. That crippled begger is going to go on disability and drain the taxpayer's pocket if he doesn't.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 12, 2015 01:44 PM (oVJmc)
He'd drown Tiny Tim in a heart beat. That crippled begger is going to go on disability and drain the taxpayer's pocket if he doesn't.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Shipping for Atrocities, Monstrosities, and Barbarisms at the Outrage Outlet! at August 12, 2015 01:48 PM (hLRSq)
574
That's not to say all religious people are assholes like that. But a lot of them are.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:44 PM (0LHZx)
Moo Moo finds himself surrounded by assholes a lot of the time. Turns out when you're an asshole yourself, everyone around you looks like an asshole, too.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:44 PM (0LHZx)
Moo Moo finds himself surrounded by assholes a lot of the time. Turns out when you're an asshole yourself, everyone around you looks like an asshole, too.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:49 PM (4df7R)
575
Why do you assume her future is fucked? Why do you assume either of their futures is fucked?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:46 PM (4df7R)
________
No I suppose you are right. Most teen girls who are impregnated by high school dropout losers go on to lead very fulfilling productive lives.
My bad.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:46 PM (4df7R)
________
No I suppose you are right. Most teen girls who are impregnated by high school dropout losers go on to lead very fulfilling productive lives.
My bad.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:49 PM (0LHZx)
576
AND Bankruptcy a sign you were a crook.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 12, 2015 01:43 PM (0FSuD)
Those people we fucked over on thatdealwere not nice people, okay? They were sharks. Sharks with fucking laser beams.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 12, 2015 01:43 PM (0FSuD)
Those people we fucked over on thatdealwere not nice people, okay? They were sharks. Sharks with fucking laser beams.
Posted by: Donald Trump's Hair at August 12, 2015 01:49 PM (XHR9b)
577
ACE ACE:
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
Rush is on the path.
Otherwise:
- You're blowing it, son. You're blowing it.
ACE ACE:
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
Rush is on the path.
Otherwise:
- You're blowing it, son. You're blowing it.
Posted by: _Dave_ at August 12, 2015 01:49 PM (l2dSQ)
578
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:46 PM (4df7R)
Beth, I think you are waxing poetic yet again!
Beth, I think you are waxing poetic yet again!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 12, 2015 01:50 PM (ftVQq)
579
Basically, Moo wants to kill people rather than have them cost him money.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 12, 2015 01:44 PM (oVJmc)
---------------------------------------------
THIS is what he's really telling us. There's no one but mooboy. Mooboy is the alpha and the omega. He truly is a legend in his own mind.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 12, 2015 01:44 PM (oVJmc)
---------------------------------------------
THIS is what he's really telling us. There's no one but mooboy. Mooboy is the alpha and the omega. He truly is a legend in his own mind.
Posted by: Soona at August 12, 2015 01:50 PM (P25Hh)
580
Using your logic in reverse, should a birth certificate be issued for a fetus? Why or why not?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:47 PM (0LHZx)
Uhhh... a birth certificate would seem to indicate someone was born, right? As in, came out of their mothers womb? With witnesses and such?
Used to prove citizenship and place of birth...
What the fuck does that have to do with abortion or infanticide?
And sure, if you want to deal with the additional paperwork, I have no problem issuing "pre-birth certificates" if that circles some kind of square in your head.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:47 PM (0LHZx)
Uhhh... a birth certificate would seem to indicate someone was born, right? As in, came out of their mothers womb? With witnesses and such?
Used to prove citizenship and place of birth...
What the fuck does that have to do with abortion or infanticide?
And sure, if you want to deal with the additional paperwork, I have no problem issuing "pre-birth certificates" if that circles some kind of square in your head.
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 01:50 PM (AkOaV)
581
Logprof, I should have searched the post before asking the question. I just saw your comment on the arena funding.
Posted by: tbodie at August 12, 2015 01:50 PM (Z2OIC)
582
>>>It's a "baby" even if conceived by rape. So you're OK with killing some "babies" but not others?
MONSTERS!!
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016<<<
It's okay, Huck. Those are the ones we turn into anti-aging cosmetics.
MONSTERS!!
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016<<<
It's okay, Huck. Those are the ones we turn into anti-aging cosmetics.
Posted by: Fritz at August 12, 2015 01:50 PM (o/UmK)
583
Why do you assume her future is fucked? Why do you assume either of their futures is fucked? Why do you assume they'll be on welfare for life? You have a very low opinion of people.
I already burned that straw man up. Remember: arguing w/a troll is like wrestling a pig. All you do is get dirty, and the pig likes it.
I already burned that straw man up. Remember: arguing w/a troll is like wrestling a pig. All you do is get dirty, and the pig likes it.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 12, 2015 01:50 PM (5buP8)
584
Using your logic in reverse, should a birth certificate be issued for a fetus? Why or why not?
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:47 PM (0LHZx)
And how about this scenario -- mother gives birth in the woods, never gets a birth certificate.
In that case, is it okay for her to drown the kid in a creek?
I mean, after all -- no birth certificate...
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:47 PM (0LHZx)
And how about this scenario -- mother gives birth in the woods, never gets a birth certificate.
In that case, is it okay for her to drown the kid in a creek?
I mean, after all -- no birth certificate...
Posted by: mynewhandle at August 12, 2015 01:51 PM (AkOaV)
585
Abortion defenders like to paint the picture of a troubled pregnant woman coolly talking with a doctor in a nice, clean office and coming to the rational conclusion that abortion is the way to move forward to greater happiness.
None of that is true. In most cases
She is in a back room that is dirtier than a truck stop restroom.
None of that is true. In most cases
She is in a back room that is dirtier than a truck stop restroom.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 12, 2015 01:51 PM (oqhrS)
586
No I suppose you are right. Most teen girls who are impregnated by high school dropout losers go on to lead very fulfilling productive lives.
My bad.
___
This seems to contradict your earlier implication that the cause of her future poverty would be because she had a kid to care for.
My bad.
___
This seems to contradict your earlier implication that the cause of her future poverty would be because she had a kid to care for.
Posted by: joe at August 12, 2015 01:51 PM (KUaJL)
587
He's actively trolling the shit out of everyone.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:48 PM (xSCb6)
Ya think?
[It's fun to watch though....]
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:48 PM (xSCb6)
Ya think?
[It's fun to watch though....]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 12, 2015 01:51 PM (Zu3d9)
588
The baby liver makes a great pate.
Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at August 12, 2015 01:52 PM (Dwehj)
589
Oh, lord. I go to lunch and Moo is still aruging that the death's head emblem on his SS uniform is tres chic?
Why bother - if the country is as morally bankrupt as he is, it isn't worth saving.
Why bother - if the country is as morally bankrupt as he is, it isn't worth saving.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 12, 2015 01:53 PM (zF6Iw)
590
PP is against pre-abortion sonograms, they say it is intrusive and violates a woman's body and privacy. Then they turn around, shove a speculum into a woman's vagina, crank it all the way open, then get another speculum to dilate her cervix. After everything is fully open and exposed they insert forceps, dig around a bit for parts or use a vacuum to Hoover her uterus. If you want a pain killer or sedation it costs extra. Mind you, this is usually all done by a complete stranger. Then they turn around and offer the products of her conception to the highest bidder.***
So, I guess the abortion is in no way as intrusive as a vaginal sonogram.
***i may have missed a few steps
So, I guess the abortion is in no way as intrusive as a vaginal sonogram.
***i may have missed a few steps
Posted by: lindafell de Spair at August 12, 2015 01:53 PM (xVgrA)
591
Burn the Witch,
Just go to the polling and look at all the historical data. Go to Gallup for example. Look at the most recent polls based on the age groups and learn something. Don't attack somebody, and require them to provide your lazy ass a link unless you think the facts are on your side. Again...get a Clue!
Just go to the polling and look at all the historical data. Go to Gallup for example. Look at the most recent polls based on the age groups and learn something. Don't attack somebody, and require them to provide your lazy ass a link unless you think the facts are on your side. Again...get a Clue!
Posted by: The Nutty Irishman at August 12, 2015 01:53 PM (SJi0a)
592
I think that teen girls are 'impregnated'. As if they were barely in the room when 'it' occured. As if they had no......what's the word? ...choice in the matter
My stupidity.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
My stupidity.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:53 PM (Spluw)
593
LOL. Wow hyperbole much? This is exactly what I
mean. You guys are so over the top, it's comical. And it's why nobody
takes you seriously anymore.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:45 PM (0LHZx)
You call me a monster for not advocating the death of babies, and you say I'M hyperbolic? Oh sweetie, get a clue.
I'm being particularly dismissive of you and extreme in my insults toward you because you are not a human being and I find your world view in all things, not just abortion, to be abhorrent. So I have no problem calling you a worshipper of Ba'al who dips his cock in ox blood for virility, b/c your very existence is an outlandish joke, and your genocidal opinions are as important to the abortion discourse as a rotting sack of horse shit.
mean. You guys are so over the top, it's comical. And it's why nobody
takes you seriously anymore.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:45 PM (0LHZx)
You call me a monster for not advocating the death of babies, and you say I'M hyperbolic? Oh sweetie, get a clue.
I'm being particularly dismissive of you and extreme in my insults toward you because you are not a human being and I find your world view in all things, not just abortion, to be abhorrent. So I have no problem calling you a worshipper of Ba'al who dips his cock in ox blood for virility, b/c your very existence is an outlandish joke, and your genocidal opinions are as important to the abortion discourse as a rotting sack of horse shit.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:54 PM (4df7R)
594
With a nice Chianti, of course.
Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at August 12, 2015 01:54 PM (Dwehj)
595
>>The baby liver makes a great pate.
Nah.
Its not very fatty, and besides, do you know how many fetus livers you need to make a tablespoon?
Nah.
Its not very fatty, and besides, do you know how many fetus livers you need to make a tablespoon?
Posted by: looking closely at August 12, 2015 01:54 PM (ji45d)
596
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:49 PM (0LHZx)
----
Evidently, you're not smart enough to comprehend that being anti abortion is not just a political issue. It's a moral one and people with principles don't back away from these issues for votes.
----
Evidently, you're not smart enough to comprehend that being anti abortion is not just a political issue. It's a moral one and people with principles don't back away from these issues for votes.
Posted by: Seems Legit at August 12, 2015 01:54 PM (Xa4vS)
597
That's not to say all religious people are assholes like that. But a lot of them are.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:44 PM (0LHZx)
Yeah, and it's not to say that all poor people should have their babies ripped from their wombs because they will just stay on welfare, but a lot of them should.
And it's not to say that all "products of conception" should be flushed down the toilet or sold to the highest bidder, but a lot of them should.
And it's not to say that all abortions are the result of a 15 year old getting raped, but a lot of them are.
And....
After all, I have a black friend, so I'm not a racist.
And I have a lot of money, so I must be a great person.
And I am happy and love abortion, so it must be a moral thing to do.
And I know what everyone in this country believes, so I will report that as fact without any backup.
And I will come here to show everyone how morally and intellectually superior I am on a regular basis because I am stuck in mom's basement and can only live this sort of wonderful life online at everyone else's expense.
At some point, moomoo, you may discover that spark of humanity inside, but it will certainly be an uphill battle for you. Good luck with that.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:44 PM (0LHZx)
Yeah, and it's not to say that all poor people should have their babies ripped from their wombs because they will just stay on welfare, but a lot of them should.
And it's not to say that all "products of conception" should be flushed down the toilet or sold to the highest bidder, but a lot of them should.
And it's not to say that all abortions are the result of a 15 year old getting raped, but a lot of them are.
And....
After all, I have a black friend, so I'm not a racist.
And I have a lot of money, so I must be a great person.
And I am happy and love abortion, so it must be a moral thing to do.
And I know what everyone in this country believes, so I will report that as fact without any backup.
And I will come here to show everyone how morally and intellectually superior I am on a regular basis because I am stuck in mom's basement and can only live this sort of wonderful life online at everyone else's expense.
At some point, moomoo, you may discover that spark of humanity inside, but it will certainly be an uphill battle for you. Good luck with that.
Posted by: tcn in AK at August 12, 2015 01:54 PM (+YMhA)
598
A person who sees all of life through a political lens (Oh no, we might lose if we mention being pro-life!) is a sad, sad person. No way to go through life son.
Posted by: gapoz at August 12, 2015 01:54 PM (thyJJ)
599
He's actively trolling the shit out of everyone.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:48 PM (xSCb6)
He's trying to troll people, but he isn't really making anyone have to work at it. It's like the Black Knight fighting King Arthur and then arguing about it.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:48 PM (xSCb6)
He's trying to troll people, but he isn't really making anyone have to work at it. It's like the Black Knight fighting King Arthur and then arguing about it.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Free Shipping for Atrocities, Monstrosities, and Barbarisms at the Outrage Outlet! at August 12, 2015 01:54 PM (hLRSq)
600
Posted by: lindafell de Spair at August 12, 2015 01:53 PM (xVgrA)
So glad I skipped lunch today, but I think I will start serious drinking early!
So glad I skipped lunch today, but I think I will start serious drinking early!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 12, 2015 01:54 PM (ftVQq)
601
Nood feel the Bern!
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at August 12, 2015 01:55 PM (fWAjv)
602
581 Logprof, I should have searched the post before asking the question. I just saw your comment on the arena funding.
Posted by: tbodie at August 12, 2015 01:50 PM (Z2OIC)
--Yeah, I can forgive flip-flopping on immigration since he went in the right direction, but he planted his flag and arrived on the national scene on fiscal responsibility and then wiped his ass on that flag today.
Posted by: tbodie at August 12, 2015 01:50 PM (Z2OIC)
--Yeah, I can forgive flip-flopping on immigration since he went in the right direction, but he planted his flag and arrived on the national scene on fiscal responsibility and then wiped his ass on that flag today.
Posted by: day-drinking logprof at August 12, 2015 01:55 PM (vsbNu)
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The baby liver makes a great pate.
Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at August 12, 2015 01:52 PM (Dwehj)
And baby-tongue shishkabobs. As tender as veal.
Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at August 12, 2015 01:52 PM (Dwehj)
And baby-tongue shishkabobs. As tender as veal.
Posted by: Mooboy - A legend. A god. at August 12, 2015 01:56 PM (P25Hh)
604
He's actively trolling the shit out of everyone.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:48 PM (xSCb6)
And I triumph with my wit! swearsies.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 12, 2015 01:48 PM (xSCb6)
And I triumph with my wit! swearsies.
Posted by: ass/hole 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:56 PM (Spluw)
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No; I don't think Moo Moo is happy. I don't think a person would engage in repetitive, insulting trolling if they were happy. He may be under stress and this is the way he gets it out--but happy, no. And having said "my wife was treated horrendously by ladies who hit her with their purses and insisted she going to church every week" (o.k. That was an exaggeration ;^) I neither believe that or the some of the things he has said about himself or maybe he bye he's trolling for George Soros
Sad.
Sad.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2015 01:56 PM (OSs/l)
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Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:54 PM (4df7R)
Sheer poetry!
Sheer poetry!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 12, 2015 01:56 PM (ftVQq)
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If PP makes money on dismembered babies why do they charge women for abortions?
Posted by: Seems Legit at August 12, 2015 01:56 PM (Xa4vS)
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No I suppose you are right. Most teen girls who are
impregnated by high school dropout losers go on to lead very fulfilling
productive lives.
My bad.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:49 PM (0LHZx)
Anyone who actually believed in conservative ideals would not take the default, "Individual A + Scenario A equals Scenario B" argument. They would say, "Individual A is an individual, and can accomplish any damn thing they want."
Ergo, you are no conservative. You're not even a Republican. You're a roach.
impregnated by high school dropout losers go on to lead very fulfilling
productive lives.
My bad.
Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at August 12, 2015 01:49 PM (0LHZx)
Anyone who actually believed in conservative ideals would not take the default, "Individual A + Scenario A equals Scenario B" argument. They would say, "Individual A is an individual, and can accomplish any damn thing they want."
Ergo, you are no conservative. You're not even a Republican. You're a roach.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:57 PM (4df7R)
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"It's called going with what has been demonstrated to work."
O.K. it worked all so well we ended up Obama, ObamaCare, and government funded Abortion? Wow! I'm impressed.
O.K. it worked all so well we ended up Obama, ObamaCare, and government funded Abortion? Wow! I'm impressed.
Posted by: The Nutty Irishman at August 12, 2015 01:57 PM (SJi0a)
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570
Shorter Moo: "You mongoloid scumbucket sister-fucking socons need to lay off the ad hominems."
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 12, 2015 01:48 PM (oVJmc)
laughed at that
Shorter Moo: "You mongoloid scumbucket sister-fucking socons need to lay off the ad hominems."
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 12, 2015 01:48 PM (oVJmc)
laughed at that
Posted by: BignJames at August 12, 2015 01:58 PM (j7iSn)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 12, 2015 01:59 PM (OSs/l)
612
Yuck.
Sign zee papers, pregnant woman! Everysing vill be good if you just sign zee papers! Your reproductive biomass vill help everyvun live longer and happier lives.
(in a quiet wheedling whisper)
Just sign zee papers. Everysing vill be good.
Sign zee papers, pregnant woman! Everysing vill be good if you just sign zee papers! Your reproductive biomass vill help everyvun live longer and happier lives.
(in a quiet wheedling whisper)
Just sign zee papers. Everysing vill be good.
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at August 12, 2015 02:00 PM (uPxUo)
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That's not to say all religious people are assholes like that. But a lot of them are.
Whenever I hear anecdotes like this, I'm reminded of the words of Bishop Fulton Sheen: "There are not a thousand people in the world who truly hate the Catholic Church, but there are thousands who hate what they think is the Church."
Whenever I hear anecdotes like this, I'm reminded of the words of Bishop Fulton Sheen: "There are not a thousand people in the world who truly hate the Catholic Church, but there are thousands who hate what they think is the Church."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 12, 2015 02:01 PM (zF6Iw)
614
394
Why the fvck is Mookin still allowed to post here? Because he occasionally lobs an easy softball anyone can hit?
...
He's just an attention whore and a troll. He's not arguing, he's baiting.
Agree. Here's what I don't understand: why does everyone keep responding to his comments? Simply ignore him; treat his comments as if they don't exist. (See also, wrestling with pig in mud hole.)
Why the fvck is Mookin still allowed to post here? Because he occasionally lobs an easy softball anyone can hit?
...
He's just an attention whore and a troll. He's not arguing, he's baiting.
Agree. Here's what I don't understand: why does everyone keep responding to his comments? Simply ignore him; treat his comments as if they don't exist. (See also, wrestling with pig in mud hole.)
Posted by: Sixkiller at August 12, 2015 02:03 PM (hRytD)
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I would prefer victims of rape NOT abort their babies, but in fact be given all the support and aid they need to give birth to the child, who will then be adopted into a loving home.
I would also make sure the rapist was caught and thrown in prison for the rest of his life. Preferably subject to the death penalty, but that's just me.
But I would not force a rape victim to give birth, b/c the woman did not CHOOSE to be raped. Her choice was taken away by her rapist. I would mourn the baby, and I would hope that the mother would mourn the loss of life, too.
But a woman who has sex and then doesn't like the result? She made her CHOICE when she spread her legs. And as for the father? He made his choice, too. He should be just as involved and held to account as the mother. And we should make sure that he is subject to all the shame possible if he doesn't do his duty and marry the woman.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (4df7R)
I would suggest, that in instances where a victim of rape becomes pregnant, and subsequently chooses an abortion, that the guilt for the death of the unborn falls entirely upon the rapist, morally, if not legally, at least.
I would also make sure the rapist was caught and thrown in prison for the rest of his life. Preferably subject to the death penalty, but that's just me.
But I would not force a rape victim to give birth, b/c the woman did not CHOOSE to be raped. Her choice was taken away by her rapist. I would mourn the baby, and I would hope that the mother would mourn the loss of life, too.
But a woman who has sex and then doesn't like the result? She made her CHOICE when she spread her legs. And as for the father? He made his choice, too. He should be just as involved and held to account as the mother. And we should make sure that he is subject to all the shame possible if he doesn't do his duty and marry the woman.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at August 12, 2015 01:39 PM (4df7R)
I would suggest, that in instances where a victim of rape becomes pregnant, and subsequently chooses an abortion, that the guilt for the death of the unborn falls entirely upon the rapist, morally, if not legally, at least.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 12, 2015 02:03 PM (IAqcp)
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The main reason PP is against those pre-abortion sonograms and 24 hour wait periods??? Because when a woman see an actual heart beat and the baby, there's a good chance she'll change her mind. If she goes home and really thinks about what she's doing after being told what the actual procedure involves after seeing the baby and heart beat, many women will change their mind. And PP loses the abortion fee, anesthesia fee, and the baby parts for sale income. It hits them in the pocket.
Same reason they are against OTC birth control pills. Less unplanned pregnancies equal less income.
It's all about the money.
Same reason they are against OTC birth control pills. Less unplanned pregnancies equal less income.
It's all about the money.
Posted by: lindafell de Spair at August 12, 2015 02:03 PM (xVgrA)
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Help me out here. Has poo poo got a new nic? I haven't been reading this tired worn out thread.
I am at home making millions on the internet, you can too! Just get the fvck off the AoSHQ.
I am at home making millions on the internet, you can too! Just get the fvck off the AoSHQ.
Posted by: Nip Sip at August 12, 2015 02:05 PM (0FSuD)
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O.K. it worked all so well we ended up Obama, ObamaCare, and government funded Abortion? Wow! I'm impressed.
Posted by: The Nutty Irishman at August 12, 2015 01:57 PM (SJi0a)
And you think that shit-for-brains Jebbie will change that?
Posted by: The Nutty Irishman at August 12, 2015 01:57 PM (SJi0a)
And you think that shit-for-brains Jebbie will change that?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 12, 2015 02:19 PM (IAqcp)
619
Burn the Witch.....I think what the Idiot Irishman is trying to tell you is that this is a hot topic right now, because like always in the past, the enemy is trying to get you to make your favorite candidate take a hard-line position on this topic, and then right before the election they will turn that candidate into the "War against Women" candidate and steal the young and female vote at the last second. Does that make sense?
Posted by: You can't trump Trump on Trump at August 12, 2015 02:21 PM (dgKBI)
620
Mothers?
Posted by: Javems at August 12, 2015 02:32 PM (ZnvRl)
621
He's just an attention whore and a troll. He's not arguing, he's baiting.
***
Yeah, he's a real master at that.
***
Yeah, he's a real master at that.
Posted by: cool arrow at August 12, 2015 02:32 PM (g2DAI)
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I would suggest, that in instances where a victim of rape becomes pregnant, and subsequently chooses an abortion, that the guilt for the death of the unborn falls entirely upon the rapist, morally, if not legally, at least.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 12, 2015 02:03 PM (IAqcp)
Allow the woman the choice of abortion, then charge the rapist with murder and give him the death penalty if she does so.
Not a good outcome, but at least it's just.
And to anyone who opposes it ... "Why do you love the life of the rapist more than an innocent child?"
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 12, 2015 02:03 PM (IAqcp)
Allow the woman the choice of abortion, then charge the rapist with murder and give him the death penalty if she does so.
Not a good outcome, but at least it's just.
And to anyone who opposes it ... "Why do you love the life of the rapist more than an innocent child?"
Posted by: ConservativeMonster1 at August 12, 2015 02:33 PM (0NdlF)
623
The leg left behind... that's worth pausing over for a second.
Imagine the woman walking around post-abortion only to later find out she has a leg still in her uterus. A remnant. Something still there that hasn't gone away.
A leg? But it's just a clump of cells.
Take it out, look at it - it's a leg. It is indisputably a leg. Knee, ankle, heel, toes, nerves, skin, muscles, toenails. A tiny leg.
Clump of cells? Whose leg was that before you had it hacked out of you? Oh, something with its own DNA, yadda yadda, can't feel pain, whatever... don't want to hear that, it's just rhetoric, trying to confuse the issue... women's health services!!!111
What kind of clump of cells has a leg?
Imagine the woman walking around post-abortion only to later find out she has a leg still in her uterus. A remnant. Something still there that hasn't gone away.
A leg? But it's just a clump of cells.
Take it out, look at it - it's a leg. It is indisputably a leg. Knee, ankle, heel, toes, nerves, skin, muscles, toenails. A tiny leg.
Clump of cells? Whose leg was that before you had it hacked out of you? Oh, something with its own DNA, yadda yadda, can't feel pain, whatever... don't want to hear that, it's just rhetoric, trying to confuse the issue... women's health services!!!111
What kind of clump of cells has a leg?
Posted by: Uffda at August 12, 2015 02:35 PM (9AKdR)
624
590 You forgot the part where they: mislead the woman as to the actual realities of the procedure (an abortion during different weeks of a pregnancy is going to be well different) and may in fact be postponing the procedure so as to get their much wanted merchandise -- probably not consulting with the woman as to the risks of later gestation abortions.
Oh, and playing every psyche game in the book in order to overcome any woman's reluctance to said procedure.
And not informing her, perhaps even misinforming her, as to other alternatives.
And encouraging young girls and boys to be sexually active (there was an undercover journalism operation conducted upon them back in 2008 I believe that covered just what sort of filth they were actively encouraging very young children to engage in).
And there is some news that they purposely issue out birth control (and education about using it) that may not make said birth control as effective as it could be (which has other health repercussions, not passed on to the clients).
And acting in a predatory fashion on the poor, the young, the minority...in short, every category of disadvantaged person they can while in the same breathe crowing about how they are the ones that care the most about said people.
And, and, and...their list of transgressions is rather long. We are party to it because we pay for it -- at some point their transgressions become ours; unless we put a stop to it. But we are nice people and have to do nice things: like save lions from hunters and demand that that only pets that people own are shelter pets, because that is what nice people do...and give women their freedom.
Can we really say at this point we are any better than those who go along to get along in Daesh or Taliban controlled areas? Maybe for as long as we don't look too closely and focus on the pretty leaf design in the Planned Parenthood logo.
Oh, and playing every psyche game in the book in order to overcome any woman's reluctance to said procedure.
And not informing her, perhaps even misinforming her, as to other alternatives.
And encouraging young girls and boys to be sexually active (there was an undercover journalism operation conducted upon them back in 2008 I believe that covered just what sort of filth they were actively encouraging very young children to engage in).
And there is some news that they purposely issue out birth control (and education about using it) that may not make said birth control as effective as it could be (which has other health repercussions, not passed on to the clients).
And acting in a predatory fashion on the poor, the young, the minority...in short, every category of disadvantaged person they can while in the same breathe crowing about how they are the ones that care the most about said people.
And, and, and...their list of transgressions is rather long. We are party to it because we pay for it -- at some point their transgressions become ours; unless we put a stop to it. But we are nice people and have to do nice things: like save lions from hunters and demand that that only pets that people own are shelter pets, because that is what nice people do...and give women their freedom.
Can we really say at this point we are any better than those who go along to get along in Daesh or Taliban controlled areas? Maybe for as long as we don't look too closely and focus on the pretty leaf design in the Planned Parenthood logo.
Posted by: unknown j. at August 12, 2015 02:52 PM (B6sgj)
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Therein lies the way forward: don't go after Planned Parenthood for one transgression (shocking though it may be). Go after them for ALL of their transgressions -- throw up a wall of sins, read down the gallows list and issue the indictments for EVERYTHING.
In this way you will get a wider audience; in this way you stand the best chance to defeat them, and possibly destroy this disgusting organization.
And don't back away from it -- even if you're defeated at first, keep going, even if you're smacked down a million times, never give up and never go away -- it's the whole way victory can be achieved. Otherwise, just give up and go along with it.
In this way you will get a wider audience; in this way you stand the best chance to defeat them, and possibly destroy this disgusting organization.
And don't back away from it -- even if you're defeated at first, keep going, even if you're smacked down a million times, never give up and never go away -- it's the whole way victory can be achieved. Otherwise, just give up and go along with it.
Posted by: unknown j. at August 12, 2015 02:59 PM (B6sgj)
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@625 "even if you're defeated at first, keep going, even if you're smacked down a million times, never give up and never go away -- it's the whole way victory can be achieved. Otherwise, just give up and go along with it."
If you do this when you have the political power, thats fine. But if you do this in election years, you don't get the political power.
If you do this when you have the political power, thats fine. But if you do this in election years, you don't get the political power.
Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at August 12, 2015 03:04 PM (dgKBI)
627
Meanwhile, Funny or Die has posted a SPOOF of these videos. A spoof of grisly abortion videos.
Posted by: JJ at August 12, 2015 03:07 PM (IRfaf)
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626 Then you will never have this much cherished "political power" because you never ventured to gain it in the first place.
Posted by: unknown j. at August 12, 2015 03:42 PM (B6sgj)
629
"Then you will never have this much cherished "political power" because you never ventured to gain it in the first place."
If the majority of the country supports Abortion, it's kinda hard to win using that as your hammer, you kinda have to sneak it past them....You get it yet? What is it with you guys? We aren't talking morality here, we talking winning elections. Why is this so hard for everybody here?
If the majority of the country supports Abortion, it's kinda hard to win using that as your hammer, you kinda have to sneak it past them....You get it yet? What is it with you guys? We aren't talking morality here, we talking winning elections. Why is this so hard for everybody here?
Posted by: The Nutty Irishman at August 12, 2015 04:09 PM (SJi0a)
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317 Planned Parenthood lunchtime threads are also a good way to curb your calorie count.
This thread literally filled me up. The filler spent the afternoon in bed after reading it.
This thread literally filled me up. The filler spent the afternoon in bed after reading it.
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