Early Morning Thread 08/01/15 [krakatoa]

I'm going to say it: Hillary is toast.

It's going to come down to Sanders or Joe Biden, and for my L.I.B. money, I'll take Pokin' Joe hip-sliding across the hood of a stretched '78 Trans Am T-Tops every. single. time.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 08:10 AM

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1 Iiiiiiiit's here!

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 01, 2015 08:10 AM (a42f0)

2 Okay, now that that's out of the way, prepare to be really pissed off.

From Allen West: http://t.co/CB12oFxDlR

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 01, 2015 08:10 AM (PMlgt)

3 Paste Eater in Chief, Joe Biden.
*sigh*

Posted by: Talkin' Taqyia2Me, aka DNC/MSM at August 01, 2015 08:11 AM (sJuKe)

4 Still smells fresh!

Posted by: fluffy at August 01, 2015 08:12 AM (2iV3X)

5 Apparently Grassley is looking into Huma and a conflict of interest (getting paid by State and Clinton fronts at the same time) and getting overpaid by taxpayers:

WaPo http://tinyurl.com/ozkp9wy

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at August 01, 2015 08:12 AM (oVJmc)

6 Okay, now that that's out of the way, prepare to be really pissed off.
From Allen West: http://t.co/CB12oFxDlR
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 01, 2015 08:10 AM (PMlgt)

I was just about to post that, I have no words.

Posted by: spypeach at August 01, 2015 08:12 AM (KTiWT)

7 Hillary: Prison 2016.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 01, 2015 08:13 AM (u82oZ)

8 Federal PP video TRS

http://wp.me/p2aVG0-1SPp

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 01, 2015 08:14 AM (VPLuQ)

9 I dunno, Krak. The same lefty cabal that produced Barky might have another tabula rasa candidate waiting in the wings.

I agree that Hilldog's toast, though.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 01, 2015 08:14 AM (9spsc)

10 Still smells fresh!

Posted by: fluffy at August 01, 2015 08:12 AM (2iV3X)

Y

Posted by: RickZ at August 01, 2015 08:15 AM (HEtQ3)

11 2 NDH. Thank you.

My BP is a lot higher. This is enemy action, from our NCA, straight up.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 01, 2015 08:16 AM (u82oZ)

12 Buenos menus, everyone....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 01, 2015 08:17 AM (7/znG)

13 If Hillary! is toast,
she must have baked
during Pompeii.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 01, 2015 08:17 AM (CpRK8)

14 Still smells fresh!

Posted by: fluffy at August 01, 2015 08:12 AM (2iV3X)

Yeah, well, wait until the coffee kicks in.

Hung over coffee farts. Not pretty. This place will need a new paint job.

Posted by: RickZ at August 01, 2015 08:17 AM (HEtQ3)

15 We're about to go for a morning stroll, but here's a few things of note:

BREAKING! HILLARY'S HUMA ACCUSED OF CRIMINAL VIOLATIONS OF CONFLICT-OF-INTEREST LAWS!
therightscoop.com

SodaStream CEO Gives Amazing BDS Testimony To Congress: 'Manipulation, Violence and Destruction'
"It is an anti-Semitic, Israel-hating organization"
It's worth reading the piece over at thetruthrevolt.org. Such hate towards Jews.

WELL ENDOWED TOM CRUISE SCIENTOLOGY STATUE COMMEMORATES HIS 25 YEARS WITH CHURCH
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/

SHATTERED FANTASY: Sorry Leftist Americans, Your Swedish Utopia Does Not Exist: It's time to kill the myth about the superiority of the Nordic welfare state model.
pretty much everything at http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/ this morning is worth looking at

Reform at the VA? Think Again, Say 'Horrified' Whistleblowers

One doctor tells senators she was handed a box of year-old cardiac ultrasounds to read -- some of the veterans had died while waiting.

pjmedia.com

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 01, 2015 08:17 AM (qCMvj)

16 Hillary is toast? Doubtful. You underestimated the mendacity of our government, their agencies and the make believe media's ability to run cover for a lying sack like Hillary Clinton. Face it. We are no longer represented. That's why I'm in the LIB category.

I never thought I'd say this, but we must live through a revolution. And I'm not sure how it'll turn out. As I've said before, I'm glad I'm on the back nine of life.

Posted by: hadoop at August 01, 2015 08:18 AM (2X7pN)

17 Holy crap, NDH! I can't wrap my head around that much stupidity.

Posted by: no good deed at August 01, 2015 08:18 AM (GgxVX)

18 Black Lives Matter!!
Nothing to report from Chicago and Baltimore.
Baltimore is celebrating the big news (not the Orioles win)
A new record in deaths, the mayor will accept the honors at a special ceremony at the city hall?
Homies in Chicago are probably just resting..To hot to be shot!

Posted by: Colin at August 01, 2015 08:20 AM (pU8wz)

19 NDH the US military is quickly going into lock-step of "I was only following orders."

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 01, 2015 08:21 AM (CpRK8)

20 I was just about to post that, I have no words.

***

No fear. There will be many, many words spoken on this issue.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 01, 2015 08:21 AM (PMlgt)

21 Morning, Glories!

Because it's Saturday,
http://www.engrish.com/2015/07/try-a-pair/

Posted by: mindful webworker - whut wuz thayut? at August 01, 2015 08:21 AM (ohWrE)

22 No if it isn't Hillary, it will be Sanders. Sanders has actually been talking some sense on immigration. I'm not saying he believes it or even understands it. But, a sensible immigration policy that most Americans want and his socialist policies will wrap up the Democrat vote.

Although the press isn't talking about it, I think most of the Democrat base is as fed up with their leadership as we are with the GOPe.

Posted by: WOPR at August 01, 2015 08:21 AM (nRvEn)

23 Hillary: Prison 2016.

Not a chance.

Posted by: The State-Run Media Complex at August 01, 2015 08:21 AM (Dwehj)

24 Christmas carols always cheer me up. I love playing Christmas songs in the middle of summer when it's a hundred with high humidity outside. Just for the irony factor.

All those songs about chestnuts roasting on an open fire, yule logs ablaze on the hearth, cutting down old tannenbaum and decorating it with candles like in the old days.

Posted by: Pyro Maniac at August 01, 2015 08:22 AM (DaA8g)

25 Okay, now that that's out of the way, prepare to be really pissed off.

From Allen West: http://t.co/CB12oFxDlR
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 01, 2015 08:10 AM (PMlgt)

You read these things in disbelief.
This better be dropped, and his record cleared.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 01, 2015 08:22 AM (qCMvj)

26 You come my sweat lodge we make pookie-pookie.

Posted by: Lieawatha Warren at August 01, 2015 08:23 AM (9spsc)

27 NDH the US military is quickly going into lock-step of "I was only following orders."

***

Its the equivalent of walking into a prison and kicking the shit out of the baddest mofo there: Once done, the other, less badass little shits won't dare to challenge you.

The difference, of course, is that in this scenario, it's a hero they are going to kick around to scare everyone else into falling in line

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 01, 2015 08:23 AM (PMlgt)

28

going to go take the time to smell the roses

/wave

try to get away from all of this over the weekend, as much as you can

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 01, 2015 08:24 AM (qCMvj)

29 NDH, spypeach -
This can't really come as news to you. I predicted as much when we first heard that at least on Marine was carrying and probably fired back.

We need to stay on top of this, and encourage West to use every bit of his pull to help White. And change that pussified law making our services the unArmed Forces.

Posted by: Chi at August 01, 2015 08:24 AM (VGGOE)

30 Hillary has to keep running in order to make it look good for her foundation's "donors."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 01, 2015 08:26 AM (7/znG)

31 Hillary being toast is going to come as a shock to the MSDNC watching rank and file. They aren't even aware of her being in trouble.

Posted by: MTF at August 01, 2015 08:26 AM (TxJGV)

32 If Hillary is toast, why not have Warren come in as the Democrats' savior instead of Joe Biden? Biden is a white male walking gaffe that no one cares about, and Sanders is doing well in his party because he's liberal, but still just a white male.

Warren gives the lefties their liberal extremist while getting a historic first (2! A woman and a native American) to help in the general.

Posted by: Grimaldi at August 01, 2015 08:26 AM (UCFvC)

33 I've been saying all along Hillary wont be the D nominee.But it wont be Sanders or Biden either.You know who it will be...

Posted by: steevy at August 01, 2015 08:27 AM (sPO3u)

34 Steevy @ 33

Jeb!

Posted by: Chi at August 01, 2015 08:28 AM (VGGOE)

35 Was hoping the drip, drip, drip on Hillery! would keep her in for quite a few months but also not so sure now either.

Posted by: Skip at August 01, 2015 08:29 AM (e3Z5/)

36 And unlike the Republican field, which is crowded and difficult for individual candidates to be heard, the media would ensure a late-entering Warren would get PLENTY of air time to rise quickly in the polls.

Posted by: Grimaldi at August 01, 2015 08:29 AM (UCFvC)

37 I'm gonna hold off on blowing my top about the Commanding Officer being charged for carrying and firing.

I respect Allen West, but am not seeing this reported independently anywhere else yet.

Yes, I could see the current leadership climate leading to the reported actions.
But, I would like to see just a little more, from a few other places that I respect before I go all ape-shit.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 01, 2015 08:30 AM (VPLuQ)

38 Sometimes I'm surprised that folks are surprised, much less shocked.

From the moment we heard that one or more of the Chattanooga troops was armed and fired back, we talked about how charges were probably coming. Surprised?

Kind of like electing a bunch of folks you hope will be conservative ("but, but, she said she'd make the pigs squeal!") and being surprised that one election and a few extra quasi-conservatives didn't halt seventy years of Communist momentum.

If soldiers actually violated policy, there should be a trial. Then the policy should be found guilty and they should give him a medal.

Posted by: mindful webworker - unexpectedly! at August 01, 2015 08:30 AM (ohWrE)

39 Steevy @ 33

Jeb!

Okay, that's funny, I don't care who you are.

Posted by: hadoop at August 01, 2015 08:30 AM (2X7pN)

40 But I'll still be able to sell my "Ready for Hillary! . . . (to be indicted)" bumper stickers, right?

What's more likely to happen in the next two years:

(1) Hillary goes to the White House;
(2) Hillary goes to prison;
(3) Hillary goes to "spend more time with her family."

Place your bets at the window now.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 01, 2015 08:31 AM (kGrdk)

41 Biden is a white male walking gaffe that no one cares about, and Sanders
is doing well in his party because he's liberal, but still just a white
male.

If Joey gets the nod, watch how fast he goes from a walking joke to elder statesman. The turn around by the MFM will be so fast it will break necks

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 01, 2015 08:31 AM (DiZBp)

42 34 If the left could get over their Bush aversion Jeb would be about perfect for them.

Posted by: steevy at August 01, 2015 08:31 AM (sPO3u)

43 Jeb is in ideological lockstep with Hillary that's for sure. I think the Dems would love him as her Veep but I can't believe they'd want a Bush at the top of the ticket. Joey B. will be the nominee.

Posted by: MTF at August 01, 2015 08:33 AM (TxJGV)

44 Hey VIA what did you think of West' assessment of Ray 'Save us from' Mabus?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 01, 2015 08:33 AM (CpRK8)

45 The Bush! political brand has been so thoroughly destroyed by the democrats that the only chance Jeb has is to stand as a straw man candidate against Bernie Sanders.

That way the democrats win with either one. Jeb would be emasculated even before the vote count were final.

[singing]
Let it burn
Let it burn
Let it burn

Posted by: Pyro Maniac at August 01, 2015 08:33 AM (DaA8g)

46 Hillary won't be toast until Congress defunds DARPA and their quest to build a better soldier. Criminy, the Hillbot 2.0 exoskeleton hasn't even received its wetware upgrade yet!

Posted by: Fritz at August 01, 2015 08:35 AM (UzPAd)

47 My guess is Bill is likely to develop "debilitating health issues requiring Hillary's full attention".

Posted by: MTF at August 01, 2015 08:35 AM (TxJGV)

48 Okay, now that that's out of the way, prepare to be really pissed off.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 01, 2015 08:10 AM

Okay, Miz Horse, I am seriously pissed off.

I only wish West was willing to go after the real culprit in this lunacy: Choom Boy.

Those chairborne lunkheads at the P'gon are only following orders, I'm sure. They were told to seek vengeance for Abdulazeez, and they did. Not that they are without fault; far from it. But one does not stop the danger from a rattlesnake by cutting off its rattles, I'm afraid. Follow the poison trail to its head -- the Ft. Hood shooter, Bergdahl, and now Abdulazeez. Who is their protector?

Yup. Same guy.

We have become used to accepting treason, and it will continue until the perpetrator is impeached, indicted and imprisoned.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 01, 2015 08:36 AM (rCmeG)

49 >>40 But I'll still be able to sell my "Ready for Hillary! . . . (to be indicted)" bumper stickers, right?

What's more likely to happen in the next two years:

(1) Hillary goes to the White House;
(2) Hillary goes to prison;
(3) Hillary goes to "spend more time with her family."

Place your bets at the window now.

2 and 3 would not be mutually exclusive in a just world.

Posted by: Aviator at August 01, 2015 08:37 AM (c7vUv)

50 My guess is Bill is likely to develop "debilitating health issues requiring Hillary's full attention".

Posted by: MTF at August 01, 2015 08:35 AM (TxJGV)

A terminal case of the clap

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 01, 2015 08:37 AM (DiZBp)

51 6
Okay, now that that's out of the way, prepare to be really pissed off.

From Allen West: http://t.co/CB12oFxDlR

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at August 01, 2015 08:10 AM (PMlgt)

I was just about to post that, I have no words.

Posted by: spypeach at August 01, 2015 08:12 AM (KTiWT)

*******************
I predict the outcome will be a letter of reprimand that will go into his official file, but that he will keep framed on his "I love me" wall and that will have no effect on his career. I know several senior officers who have LORs for allowing food past the expiration date to "disappear" from mess halls when they were commanders. My personal favorite is a friend's son who has an LOR for destruction of U.S. Government property. In a firefight in Sadr City, he was an M60 gunner, and his spare barrel bag was on the other side of the road where he couldn't get to it, so he melted the barrel on his M60. You know that one's framed.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 01, 2015 08:37 AM (5f5bM)

52 ** Attaches fresh meat to jeep, drives past the preserve where Vic lives to try to lure him out... **

Posted by: mindful webworker - trolliing for geezer at August 01, 2015 08:37 AM (ohWrE)

53 Zombie Vince Foster will be sighted at a Burger King in Peoria.

Posted by: The Swami at August 01, 2015 08:38 AM (Dwehj)

54 I know the Dem establishment wants Hillary, but as it becomes more apparent she can't win, why not go with the flow and back the rising Sanders tide? The GOPe doesn't support true conservatives, because they don't support their positions, but the Dems DO support more extreme, lefty positions, they're just afraid they'll lose elections.

Bernie's doing well in the polls, and is offering even moar free stuff for voters...maybe the country is reading to take the plunge into insanity. The GOP has a great opportunity to assist with one of several dud candidates.

Posted by: Grimaldi at August 01, 2015 08:40 AM (UCFvC)

55 Hiya! Hi there, yeah. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah, yeah. Nice ta see ya! Ha ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Hi!
Well let's get started, ok? Ok, good ta see everybody today. It's always good to see good union folks, good working class Americans who go to work. Every. Single. Day. And work haaaard to help bring about change.
Speaking of climate change: the only thing we can do is be patriotic and pay our taxes! C'mon! WE have to. Work. To-GETH-er to stop. Global. Climate. Change.
The republicans don't want that, do they? Well, DO they? They only want to get in our way and stop our PROgress! Are we gonna let 'em?
Ok! Got to get going. Thanks for coming by to support Biden/Castro/Obama in 2016!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 01, 2015 08:40 AM (+klYE)

56 "If soldiers actually violated policy, there should be a trial. Then the policy should be found guilty and they should give him a medal."

Many years ago, I worked for, and highly respected a 1st Class Petty Officer who was selected for, and frocked to Chief.

During Liberty Call in a foreign port, he came across a commissioned Officer who was drunk, and bringing discredit to himself, and the Navy.
The only action available to him caused him to be found guilty of striking an Officer.

As he was frocked to Chief, his recommendation for advancement was pulled, causing him to revert from selected and frocked CPO back to Petty Officer First Class. Although this would not be considered a reduction in rate, this would in effect normally end any Sailors future advancement opportunities.

As if recognizing the impossible situation which he had been in, and with the actions that he took being the only option available at the time, six months later, the Selection Board again selected him for advancement, and he continued on to retire years later with a successful career.

Sometimes these things work out in a weird and strange way.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 01, 2015 08:41 AM (VPLuQ)

57 You know that one's framed. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 01, 2015 08:37 AM

Not good enough. Yes, in a halfway sane world you'd be right, but I predict this dude is in for a world of hurt from the brass, and that's totally unacceptable. It won't be a nod and a wink; at the least, the guy's career is now toast.

Meanwhile, the shitweasels in command get off scot-free and continue to enforce a policy that is only slightly less insane than denying soldier ammo in combat situations.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 01, 2015 08:43 AM (rCmeG)

58 Corgis, it seems a new thread from our mlaware computer overlords has been posted.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 01, 2015 08:44 AM (CpRK8)

59
The Crook - The Commie - The Perv

Donk choices.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at August 01, 2015 08:45 AM (iQIUe)

60 "Hey VIA what did you think of West' assessment of Ray 'Save us from' Mabus?"

In a just world, Ray Mabus would have a career path which sees him peaking as the third shift Assistant Manager at a Burger King located at some Interstate Exit ramp in Northern North Dakota.

Or, maybe the assistant to the Fluffer for free internet Pron productions.

Either one would recognize his unique management and leadership potential.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 01, 2015 08:48 AM (VPLuQ)

61 I'll take Pokin' Joe hip-sliding across the hood of a stretched '78 Trans Am T-Tops every. single. time.

I don't want whatever you're having.

Posted by: rickl at August 01, 2015 08:48 AM (sdi6R)

62 "Sometimes these things work out in a weird and strange way."

So it's going to be Ted Cruz for the GOP, eh? And an easy victory for the Republicans.

I can see large numbers of patriotic parades in all our major cities in that scenario, but to really make it work we would need an 'illegal war', and a secret bombing campaign to blame on the republicans.

Maybe if those anti terrorism drone strikes continue under Cruz the democrats could charge him with an illegal war since obviously those drone strikes would be a violation of international sovereignty when a Republican is president. . . and there would be homeless people living in abject poverty on the streets again.

Posted by: Pyro Maniac at August 01, 2015 08:50 AM (DaA8g)

63 57
You know that one's framed. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 01, 2015 08:37 AM

Not
good enough. Yes, in a halfway sane world you'd be right, but I predict
this dude is in for a world of hurt from the brass, and that's totally
unacceptable. It won't be a nod and a wink; at the least, the guy's
career is now toast.

Meanwhile, the shitweasels in command get
off scot-free and continue to enforce a policy that is only slightly
less insane than denying soldier ammo in combat situations.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 01, 2015 08:43 AM (rCmeG)

******************
Well, let's see what happens. The military services are run by people too. Although at times there is a tendency to take things a little too seriously, my experience (32 years in uniform) is that usually common sense prevails.
I recall not too long ago on this here smart military blog it was universally agreed that the Bergdahl investigation would be a whitewash directed by all the powers that be. I protested that, knowing that the general who had been appointed the 15-6 investigating officer, MG Ken Dahl, was a straight shooter who was going to call it like he saw it. That's exactly what he did. Never got an apology from anyone in the Horde (are you reading, CDR M or Drew M?) or even an acknowledgment that they didn't know what they were talking about. I think this is a similar case, where people are jumping to conclusions about what's going to happen to the good CO without knowing the facts or the process. Let's just calm down and see what transpires. My guess is, his chain of command is going to want to sweep it under the rug and he will be fine.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 01, 2015 08:52 AM (5f5bM)

64 Either one would recognize his unique management and leadership potential.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 01, 2015 08:48 AM

If the underling is so pathetic, what does that say about his boss?

At least owners of sports franchises are smart enough to know that when trading away a lot of players doesn't improve things, you fire the damn coach.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 01, 2015 08:53 AM (rCmeG)

65 I recall not too long ago on this here smart military blog it was
universally agreed that the Bergdahl investigation would be a whitewash
directed by all the powers that be. I protested that, knowing that the
general who had been appointed the 15-6 investigating officer, MG Ken
Dahl, was a straight shooter who was going to call it like he saw it.
That's exactly what he did.

And Bergdahl is only days away from being lined up against a wall, amirite?

No matter how good the dudes in the field are, no matter what they do, it takes only inaction or deliberate bad action from above to deflect a "straight shooter's" aim.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 01, 2015 08:56 AM (rCmeG)

66 56 VIA I agreee that selection boards have a lot of leeway, but the current culture is zero-failure.

My Senator is on the Armed Forces Committee. He needs a letter.

Strategically, going after BuPers is like going after the convoy escorts. The convoy of evil that is the current government's policy decisions has pbho as the Convoy Commander.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 01, 2015 08:59 AM (u82oZ)

67 It'll be Fauxahontas vs. Rubio, is my guess. Trump, evicted from the GOP by the GOPe, will go it alone and pull votes from both sides, but more votes from Marco "Gang of 8" Rubio, and Fauxahontas wins with around 45% of the vote. Then, my dear Horde, the screwing of America will begin in earnest. There will be no revolution.

Posted by: Agent J at August 01, 2015 09:03 AM (ueOgE)

68 " VIA I agreee that selection boards have a lot of leeway, but the current culture is zero-failure. "

True dat.

And that does give me a less than absolute trust that this will work out in the end.

And maybe it's a false hope on my part, brought about by a memory of a military leadership which in truth is nothing but a memory, and has been replaced by the new Windows 8 development team in uniform.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 01, 2015 09:04 AM (VPLuQ)

69 Poking around the lefty blogosphere I notice how eagerly they welcome the immigration debate (forgetting about Bernie's anti position I guess). They think it'll devolve to a "mass deportation" argument and American voters wont go for "mass deportation".

Maybe, but I hope we can turn this whole hot mess on its head and argue against Federal give-away welfare programs for immigrants. If someone isn't a citizen and hasn't filed income taxes they shouldn't qualify.

That'll stop a lot of the incoming flood right there.

Posted by: MTF at August 01, 2015 09:07 AM (TxJGV)

70 ...maybe the country is reading to take the plunge into insanity

___________________

2008: been there, done that

(and did it again in 2012, just for emphasis)

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 01, 2015 09:08 AM (kGrdk)

71 Another link about the Federal TRS issued yesterday for the PP videos

http://thefederalist.com/?p=48906

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 01, 2015 09:08 AM (VPLuQ)

72 Hey, I have a great idea!!!
Let's nominate Trump!!!
He'd lose to Hillary, Sanders, OR Biden!!!

Posted by: DRayRaven at August 01, 2015 09:13 AM (q4f8l)

73 Bernie's doing well in the polls, and is offering
even moar free stuff for voters...maybe the country is reading to take
the plunge into insanity. The GOP has a great opportunity to assist
with one of several dud candidates.

Posted by: Grimaldi at August 01, 2015 08:40 AM (UCFvC)

We took the plunge a while ago. We are in free fall right now.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 01, 2015 09:14 AM (DiZBp)

74 71 Another link about the Federal TRS issued yesterday for the PP videos
============================

OK, now its getting ridiculous. This TRS concerns videos made at an industry conference. Is he seriously using prior restraint on political speech this egregiously?

I find this exacerbating. Heh.

The judge should be impeached and tried by the Senate. No veto possibility, and Republican voters would love it. Probably intelligent Democrats would even support it, given how ugly this action is.

Posted by: MTF at August 01, 2015 09:15 AM (TxJGV)

75 Bill Clinton has a "heart attack" and dies. Hill gets to play the grieving widow, no bimbo eruptions and she is only trying to carry on under severe emotional pressure - what a gal. The press goes nuts supporting the widow Clinton because everything was Bill's fault. Hill gets the nomination from a sorrowful Democrat nation. Just saying.

Posted by: oldgeezer at August 01, 2015 09:15 AM (+uiwA)

76 Maybe, but I hope we can turn this whole hot mess on its head and argue against Federal give-away welfare programs for immigrants. If someone isn't a citizen and hasn't filed income taxes they shouldn't qualify.

That'll stop a lot of the incoming flood right there.

Posted by: MTF at August 01, 2015 09:07 AM (TxJGV)

If one is illegal, no taxpayer funded bennies at all, including welfare, WIC, Section 8 housing, Medicaid, et.al. Once the public benefit trough is dried up, along with employee citizenship/green card verification by employers, the illegal aliens will self-deport.

Posted by: RickZ at August 01, 2015 09:16 AM (HEtQ3)

77 Gotta disagree.

Cankle Rosenbaum has more Teflon than a ........... Teflon factory.

Ok. Couldn't really finish that too good. But you get the idea.

She will be the Dem nominee.

Posted by: Hoss at August 01, 2015 09:16 AM (6nfPY)

78 "We took the plunge a while ago. We are in free fall right now."

Too high of a fall for me.

Posted by: F. Baumgartner at August 01, 2015 09:17 AM (VPLuQ)

79 Setting the gaffes aside, Biden in a lot of ways combines the best of Carter and LBJ- the down-home honesty of Carter, and the LBJ-like love of the political process, compromises, and getting involved in parliamentary procedure.

Obama was almost pure ideology- Biden is pretty pragmatic.

Really, I would prefer HONESTY (in the Sanders or Biden flavor) over the Cankled Pantsuited Empress ANY day of the week. As a republican, I'd rather deal with an honest socialist or honest blue-collar than a dishonest populist any day of the week.

Posted by: Zachary at August 01, 2015 09:17 AM (Qerbt)

80 I'll believe hellary is toast when she's 5 shades darker and covered with real butter and orange marmalade. Or will the same recipe be used as that used on Amb. Stevenson?

Posted by: Eromero at August 01, 2015 09:17 AM (go5uR)

81
If Shrillary is toast, what kind of toast is she?

Overstuffed with cream cheese, burnt and leaves a bad taste in your mouth kind of toast, that's what kind...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at August 01, 2015 09:17 AM (48Qpn)

82 They think it'll devolve to a "mass deportation" argument and American voters wont go for "mass deportation".

Maybe, but I hope we can turn this whole hot mess on its head and argue against Federal give-away welfare programs for immigrants. If someone isn't a citizen and hasn't filed income taxes they shouldn't qualify.
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Yes, we really don't need "mass deportation" to accomplish the goal. Secure the borders; start giving prison sentences and huge fines to some visa overstayers (to send a message to the others); strike off the food stamp, Medicaid, disability, "tax credit" (and all other forms of welfare) rolls anybody who can't document U.S. citizenship; and end birth-right citizenship for the U.S. born babies of foreign nationals.

Just doing those few things would substantially reduce the benefit of living in the U.S. illegally. Millions of illegal aliens would leave on their own, once the gravy train of "free" stuff is stopped, or at least significantly curtailed. Once that is accomplished, we can discuss what to do about those who remain. But you don't start trying to clean up the flooded house until you've first taken steps to stop the water gushing in from the broken pipes.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 01, 2015 09:19 AM (kGrdk)

83 A Cruz-Biden debate would be worth watching...

Posted by: Bretzysdude at August 01, 2015 09:23 AM (7uVbA)

84 "If Shrillary is toast, what kind of toast is she? "

Cheap ass white bread, toasted, then made into a tuna salad sandwich that your three year old then dropped behind the couch cushion last weekend watching cartoons, and you just now found it.

That kind of toast.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 01, 2015 09:24 AM (VPLuQ)

85 But you don't start trying to clean up the flooded house until you've first taken steps to stop the water gushing in from the broken pipes.
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Good metaphor.

Posted by: MTF at August 01, 2015 09:24 AM (TxJGV)

86 "It's going to come down to Sanders or Joe Biden..."

I have maintained for some time that it would not be Hillary - her fate was decided in 2008. Post Obama, the Left will not go backwards. But the drama had to play out, and we haven't reached the final act.

No, it won't be Sanders or Biden -- neither offers both the deep emotional pull and mystique required by the Left combined with what will necessarily be labeled "electability."

I still think it will be Elizabeth Warren. A draft movement will start at some point. She will appear reluctant. But it will gain energy and come together finally.

Posted by: rrpjr at August 01, 2015 09:25 AM (s/yC1)

87 83 A Cruz-Biden debate would be worth watching...
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I'd love that match-up. After Ryan's pathetic performance it'll be refreshing to see someone call Biden out on his history. Heck, just read the assessment Gates made of Biden in his memoir to Joe and ask him to respond. That alone will take fifteen minutes and he will look like a fool by the end.

Posted by: MTF at August 01, 2015 09:28 AM (TxJGV)

88 "But you don't start trying to clean up the flooded house until you've first taken steps to stop the water gushing in from the broken pipes. "

Drill another hole in the bottom of the boat, so the water can drain out.

Posted by: Joey Choo-Choo at August 01, 2015 09:29 AM (VPLuQ)

89 We need to not turn our backs on O'Malley.

That little rat bastard has the political Luck o' the Irish.

He's polling lower then Ms Dunham's FUPA right now.

But still.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 01, 2015 09:31 AM (VPLuQ)

90 O'Malley is a disaster from all sides.

Posted by: Providence at August 01, 2015 09:34 AM (SJ184)

91 "But still........."

Still a long time to wait. Long time for anything to happen.

Just one prediction. Those that are waiting for a Trump flame out will be disappointed.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at August 01, 2015 09:36 AM (1dGX0)

92 Just one prediction. Those that are waiting for a Trump flame out will be disappointed.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at August 01, 2015 09:36 AM (1dGX0)
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That would include me. I'm holding out hope the GOP can nominate a Republican and not a registered Democrat.

Posted by: MTF at August 01, 2015 09:38 AM (TxJGV)

93 "O'Malley is a disaster from all sides."

He has too much baggage from his past to be a true contender

Posted by: H. Clinton, Mistress of Truthiness at August 01, 2015 09:38 AM (VPLuQ)

94 sorry... until recentlya registered Democrat

Posted by: MTF at August 01, 2015 09:39 AM (TxJGV)

95 And Bergdahl is only days away from being lined up against a wall, amirite?

No
matter how good the dudes in the field are, no matter what they do, it
takes only inaction or deliberate bad action from above to deflect a
"straight shooter's" aim.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 01, 2015 08:56 AM (rCmeG)

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My point was that we in the Horde tend to immediately leap to the most negative posible outcome and assume that is, in fact, what will happen, when many times it is not what happens. Let this play out and see how it goes before assuming the worst.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 01, 2015 09:56 AM (5f5bM)

96 "Let this play out and see how it goes before assuming the worst."

I disagree. You should always be prepared for the worst possible outcome. If something better does not happen you avoid a lot of unneeded worrying and heartbreak.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Proud owner of Luap Nor's Last Brain Cell at August 01, 2015 10:01 AM (1dGX0)

97 Last I saw, Sgt Bowe Bergdahl was ROR and camping out with a bunch of pot farmers in California.

Not exactly the Eddie Slovik treatment.

Posted by: Spellcheck at August 01, 2015 10:35 AM (1mPbg)

98
I'm going to say it: Hillary is toast.

From your lips to God's ears.

Posted by: Ramon from Texas at August 01, 2015 10:55 AM (hRytD)

99 Again, that's why I say leave her alone until she wins the primary.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at August 01, 2015 11:15 AM (Xhvpw)

100 A sad end to a sad excuse of a woman. She is nothing more grand than your average golf club woman, staying married to a rich but unfaithful cad to ensure her place in society.

Posted by: pj at August 01, 2015 11:58 AM (cHuNI)

101 Oh, that visual...

Posted by: ramblingmother at August 01, 2015 12:16 PM (Ar/iV)

102 I agree and I said long, long ago Hillary would not be the nominee. That was based largely on Benghazi and the assumption that Barky would sabotage her (fuller, it seems more to come) before the e-mail, selling gov't policy to Foundation donors and, most recently, Planned Parenthood.

As to PP, there is a HUGE race card to be played and played hard against Hillary and all 'rats. This is beyond the killing 50% of black babies and 17 million and counting so far.

It is Margaret Sanger's "don't let the Negroes know we will exterminate them" and "coloreds are like weeds to be eradicated"quotes. It is also using these quotes with the pix of Sanger preaching to the KKK, Hillary singing the praises of Sanger and that the corrupt harpy won the "2009 Margaret Sanger Award".

WHEN is someone going to ask her "The Confederate Battle Flag is a hurtful symbol and now down with your support. Now PP--which you took millions from and support billions in support and putting aside their killing babies to sell body parts, PP was expressly created to kill black babies (and Jews and retards) by Margaret Sanger who has said [insert quotes] , spoken to KKK [show picture] and has succeeded in killing 17 million now dead black babies. You spoke highly of Sanger [show Hillary quotes] and won the 2009 Sanger award. Why haven't you returned that award and denounced Sanger? Isn't this worth than the CFB, a flag which has been misused by some as a racist symbol. Should PP get money from the taxpayers when they honor Margaret Sanger to this very day with the award you proudly won and keep? Isn't this awarding anti-black racism? Shouldn't the Democrat Party do the same and denounce PP and cut off funding until Margaret Sanger herself is condemned to no end? Discuss"

Posted by: eureka! at August 01, 2015 07:20 PM (g1MTt)

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