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Overnight Open Thread (7-26-2015)

Quote of the Day

Americans seem to be less shocked than a wee little foreigner such as I that this republic has a corrupt tax collection agency that torments its ideological opponents. I must say the original revelations about the IRS - what is it now? two, three years ago? - did shock me, and the fact that all those people are still in place carrying on as usual shocks me even more. I'm old-fashioned enough to regard a nonpartisan civil service as a basic building block of a civilized society.

But the relevance of this to my own situation isn't hard to follow: Michael E Fraudpants' lawyers have already asked for my "donor list". Mann's fellow scientist Dr Peter Gleick burrowed his way into the Heartland Institute and leaked their donor list, and, when that didn't quite do the trick for his purposes, he faked up his own Heartland top-secret document. (Like Mann, Dr Gleick remains a respected figure in the world of climate science.)

So I could set up a 501(c)79(f) and have Mann demanding I cough up the names so that Lois Lerner's chums can audit them, and, if I stonewalled, I'd have to stay up all night to check whether that weird noise at three in the morning is Dr Gleick crawling down the ventilation shaft.

So I'd rather do things the old-fashioned way and sell our exclusive range of DC Superior Court trialwear.

-- Mark Steyn

In Defense of America's Love of Air Conditioning and Why It Is Eco-Friendly

I've worked with Germans. And Brits. And Swedes. And Dutch people. And French people. All of whom professed themselves absolutely baffled by our insistence on wasting so much energy cooling our offices and homes, when we could just build buildings that cool themselves naturally if we open the windows occasionally.

For Europeans reading this, I may actually be able to clear up this baffling issue: Americans use air conditioning more because America is a lot hotter than Europe is. For example, in Washington, where the weather is apparently "pretty similar" to Berlin, it is expected to be 87 degrees Fahrenheit (31 Celsius) tomorrow. In Berlin, Weather.com informs me that temperatures are expected to be a torrid, sultry . 75 Fahrenheit (23 Celsius).

Of course, on any two random days, the weather might be unseasonably cold or unseasonably hot. You really need to look at monthly averages. And lo and behold, when we look, we discover that Washington has an average temperature of 88 degrees in July, while Berlin has an average temperature of . 73 (yes, that is indeed 31 and 23 Celsius).

And we're not talking about a place that's really hot, like Dallas (average July temperature is 96, or 36 Celsius) or Phoenix (106, or 41 Celsius). We're just talking about a rather ordinary American city in roughly the middle of the country's north-to-south span.

We do have some cities with more European temperatures, including San Francisco and Seattle, but they are not our largest population centers. The rest of the country, even places that are frozen wastelands in the winter, experiences summertime average highs above 80 degrees. That's not a rogue heat wave, the kind that Northern Europeans complain about endlessly while futilely fiddling with their fans. That's just what we Americans call "summer." A heat wave is when it's 100 degrees (38 Celsius) and your dog won't go outside because the pavement burns his feet. . . .

You could argue that if Americans had not migrated en masse from the temperate north to the blistering sunbelt, we would need less energy for climate control. You could argue that, but you'd be wrong. Americans still expend much more energy heating their homes than cooling them. That's actually not that surprising. The difference between the average temperature outside and the temperature that is comfortable inside is generally only 10 to 20 degrees in most of America, for most of the summer. On the other hand, in January, the residents of Rochester, New York - the cold, snowy, rapidly depopulating area that my mother hails from - you need to get the temperature up from an average low of 18 degrees (-8 Celsius) to at least 60 or 65. That takes a lot of energy.

On average, the move from cold areas to warm ones has actually saved energy, not caused us to use more. So why are we so down on air conditioning, while accepting flagrant heat use as normal? In part, it's because air conditioning still seems optional. Unlike a cold winter with no heat, a hot summer with no cooling won't definitely kill you.

And here Daniel Engber shows that AC is actually cheaper and more efficient than heating:

[T]he case against AC has always been more a moral judgment than a scientific one. Summer cooling is no more damaging to the climate than the heating that we do in winter. In fact, it's substantially less so, since the United States burns more fuel on radiators than it does on air conditioners. According to the most recent stats available from the federal government (which cover 2010), the average American household puts 40.4 million British thermal units into home heating, and just 9.3 million BTUs into home cooling. As I've pointed out before, this explains why the long-term shift in population from our coldest, Northern states into the hot and humid South has in sum reduced the amount of fossil fuel we burn to keep our houses at a comfortable temperature. Simply put: It's more efficient to air-condition homes in Florida than it is to warm the ones in Minnesota.

As Insty points out, "snobs, busybodies and puritans seem to occupy colder climates for some reason."

aceamerica233

The Human Monsters of Sci-Fi: "If enough children are sexualized young enough, gayness will suddenly be "normal" and accepted by everyone, and the old fashioned notions about fidelity will vanish"

This is the story of Moira Greyland whose parents, Marion Zimmer Bradley and Walter Breen, were fixtures in the science fiction scene of the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s. They were also monsters in human skin who both molested their own daughter and likely many, many other children. Walter Breen was eventually sent to prison for child molestation in 1991 where he later died. What's disturbing is that Breen's proclivities were known as far back as the early 60s yet other members of the sci-fi community were unwilling to judge him.

What they did to me is a matter of unfortunate public record: suffice to say that both parents wanted me to be gay and were horrified at my being female. My mother molested me from ages 3-12. The first time I remember my father doing anything especially violent to me I was five. Yes he raped me. I don't like to think about it. If you want to know about his shenanigans with little girls, and you have a very strong stomach, you can google the Breendoggle, which was the scandal which ALMOST drummed him out of science fiction fandom.

...My observation of my father and mother's actual belief is this: since everyone is naturally gay, it is the straight establishment that makes everyone hung up and therefore limited. Sex early will make people willing to have sex with everyone, which will bring about the utopia while eliminating homophobia and helping people become "who they really are." It will also destroy the hated nuclear family with its paternalism, sexism, ageism (yes, for pedophiles, that is a thing) and all other "isms." If enough children are sexualized young enough, gayness will suddenly be "normal" and accepted by everyone, and the old fashioned notions about fidelity will vanish. As sex is integrated as a natural part of every single relationship, the barriers between people will vanish, and the utopia will appear, as "straight culture" goes the way of the dinosaur. As my mother used to say: "Children are brainwashed into believing they don't want sex."

And this story makes the case for her claims that her parents' beliefs are shared by many in the gay community: At Anti-Bullying Conference Led By LGBT Group, Iowa Middle Schoolers Taught About Lesbian Strap-On Anal Sex, Fake Testicles.

Huh - UN Inspectors Will Be Forced To Rely on Nuclear Samples Provided by...Iran

This agreement just gets better and better. It's a farce masquerading as a sham of a mockery of sham of a real agreement.

"In other words, if nuclear inspectors get a hot tip that Iran is conducting (or conducted in the past) atomic-bomb work at a secret site, they don't get to go to the site themselves and take samples from the soil, the walls, etc, to see if there's uranium present," Allahpundit writes at Hot Air. "They get their samples . from Iran. That's like drug-testing a junkie by asking him to bring a sample from home."

SJWs Finally Go After Mel Brooks

You knew that eventually this was coming.

melbrookse344

British SJW Picks Exactly the Wrong Video Game to Push Her White Privilege Theories

Did she ever even play Skyrim? Almost certainly not.

Bookworm Travels to the American South For the First Time

I have never felt closer to America's past. I came away with an even greater than usual appreciation for our Founding Fathers, some of whom may have had feet of clay, but all of whom lived in a brilliant and rarefied world that revealed itself in our founding documents.

I also felt in my bones, rather than just intellectually, the scourge of the Civil War, the repercussions of which still resonate in our world. And if those who chant "Black lives matter - but no one else's lives do" think they are any different from those who believed in slavery and segregation, they are completely delusional. The takeaway is that the Democrat party never changes: It is now and always will be devoted to racial hatred enforced by government power.

Speaking of the South and race, I've never seen a part of the U.S. that's as racially integrated as the South. Wherever we went, people of all races dined together, traveled together, worked together, or were clearly dating or married without regard to racial boundaries. In my part of the world - the uber-Liberal San Francisco Bay Area - people of various races tend to stick with their own kind. If you walk into a restaurant, the blacks will be at one table, the whites at a second, and the Asians at a third. They won't be fighting, but they sure won't be mixing.

In the South, the races seem to be comfortable to mix-and-match. This integration was so obvious that even the Leftist in our party, who had already delivered a lecture - predicated on the Confederate flag kerfuffle - about the South's racism, was forced to comment upon the harmony we saw.

Venezuela Nationalizes Food Distribution

So the farmers must sell all of their production to state-owned stores and distributors at prices set by them. You can guess what the outcome of this will be.

My predicted outcome from this is that Venezuela is now one harvest away from serious starvation.

The point of this history stuff is to see what didn't work and then not repeat it. Yet Maduro appears to be selecting the very worst public policies of the past as those that he will impose today. Confiscating the food off the farmers is just going to lead to no farmers and no food.

Someone really should tell the President about 1930s Ukraine.

Texas Supreme Court Flushes Houston's Transgender 'Bathroom Law'

A Forgotten 80s Song: Translator - Everywhere That I'm Not

Is The 9mm vs .45 ACP Debate Over?

Essentially yes. With modern HP 9mm ammunition there's effectively no difference between the two calibers. So use whichever you prefer.

When using any sort of "like" ammunition for comparison, the .451? bullet of the .45 ACP is going to make a bigger hole than a .355? 9mm bullet. That allowed, the FBI Training Division noted that with modern ammunition, the difference in actual wounds in human bodies is so slight that doctors can discern no difference between the wound channels caused by 9mm, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP handguns.

Twitter Now Erasing Tweets With Stolen Jokes

stolenjoketweets

Mental Health Company CEO Embezzles $510,000 To Give To Psychic

Scientists Identify Sixth Taste: Fat

ferendchfriesd

What Happened to Film Crushes of the Eighties?

phoebecates344

Weekly Commenter Standings

Top 10 commenters:
1 [417 comments] 'rickb223' [58.54 posts/day]
2 [405 comments] 'Vic  - Republicans help Obama commit treason'
3 [404 comments] 'Christopher Taylor'
4 [361 comments] 'mynewhandle'
5 [351 comments] 'Ricardo Kill'
6 [349 comments] 'Anna Puma'
7 [326 comments] 'some random meathead'
8 [293 comments] 'ThunderB'
9 [273 comments] 'cthulhu'
10 [264 comments] 'logprof'

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [98 names] 'The Political Hat' [13.76 unique names/day]
2 [80 names] 'militarized thug cop'
3 [65 names] 'Turd Ferguson'
4 [56 names] 'Shallow HAL 9000'
5 [54 names] 'some random meathead'
6 [52 names] 'Ready For Hillary!!11!!'
7 [51 names] 'Cicero (@cicero)'
8 [46 names] 'Prince Ludwig the Indestructible'
9 [44 names] 'wth'
10 [38 names] 'Mike Hammer, etc., etc.'

The group. Banned on 12 universities.

Where it's at - the Twitter

Tonight's post brought to you by the naked gunner over Rabaul, 1944:

 nakedgunner_rabaul1944

Notice: Posted by permission of AceCorp LLC. That is all.

Posted by: Maetenloch at 11:11 PM




Comments

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1 Not first, but close?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 26, 2015 11:12 PM (DAtNG)

2 good evening

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 26, 2015 11:12 PM (0O7c5)

3 aop!!! sigdawg was in chat earlier!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 26, 2015 11:12 PM (0O7c5)

4 Kick ass ONT woot woot

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at July 26, 2015 11:13 PM (8vO4K)

5 If I get the barrel because I posted from the last thread, I don't care. From Donna and the ampersand brigade:



I used to know a woman at work whose husband was from St. Louis and he
was a diehard Card fan. They would go to St. Louis for Christmas and
one of his relatives there belonged to the same church as the Pujols
family.



Around 2009 or 2010 or so, this church put on some sort of
children's Christmas pageant and the Pujols Down syndrome kid was given
a very small part - it entailed just standing on the stage carrying a
banner or something. My coworker said the poor girl came out on stage
looked at the crowd - and began shaking. She cried out "Daddy! I'm
scared!" and Albert was up there in a flash. He picked her up and
carried her offstage, with a stricken expression on his face.



My coworker was as big a Brewer fan as I am, but she said she
couldn't hate Albert after that - every time he stepped up to the plate,
she remembered him carrying that scared child offstage.

Posted by: Vendette at July 26, 2015 11:15 PM (TEpA2)

6 Sup?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 11:16 PM (cbMSM)

7 Oh yeah baby. ONT rulz.

Posted by: Hillary, trying out some new campaign slogans at July 26, 2015 11:16 PM (oAsiA)

8 And the countdown to "H" hour, Bourbon Standard Time, commences.

In .....4...3....2....



Drink!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 26, 2015 11:17 PM (RzZOc)

9 she said she couldn't hate Albert after that
Compassion is for the weak! And Leafs' fans.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 26, 2015 11:17 PM (kivUY)

10 That little girl could count on him when she was scared (BTW, she is his stepdaughter).

Posted by: Vendette at July 26, 2015 11:17 PM (TEpA2)

11 I don't think we needed naked gunner. Bless him and his service though.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 11:18 PM (cbMSM)

12 I must say the original revelations about the IRS - what is it now? two, three years ago?

Good thing our Betters in the GOP leadership have put a stop to this sort of thing.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 26, 2015 11:18 PM (VY8H5)

13 Why is he naked? (Not that I'm complaining.)

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at July 26, 2015 11:18 PM (RWGcK)

14 _Finally an open thread.

Cruz



Posted by: Ralph at July 26, 2015 11:19 PM (PE2bZ)

15 rickb won't be here to accept his trophy. He's old. Goes to bed early. Gums his food and his women.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 11:20 PM (cbMSM)

16 In Defense of America's Love of Air Conditioning and Why It Is Eco-Friendly

Far too long a response.

Here's my rebuttal to the complaint by EUnuchs of prevalence US air conditioning.

"Why so racist against the Japanese, motherfuckers?"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 26, 2015 11:20 PM (VY8H5)

17 Whatever Prince Albert's faults, I do think he's a good man at heart, and that story just proves it.

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at July 26, 2015 11:20 PM (iuQS7)

18 Compassion is for the weak! And Leafs' fans.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 26, 2015 11:17 PM (kivUY)


As a Leafs fan, you're conditioned to know disappointment.

Posted by: Vendette at July 26, 2015 11:20 PM (TEpA2)

19 13 Why is he naked? (Not that I'm complaining.)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at July 26, 2015 11:18 PM (RWGcK)


No AC in the south pacific. Plus the extra freedom of movement. :-)

Posted by: Maetenloch at July 26, 2015 11:20 PM (wqVD1)

20 Evening morons, how fares the horde?

At work again.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at July 26, 2015 11:20 PM (b2cFu)

21 That allowed, the FBI Training Division noted that with modern ammunition, the difference in actual wounds in human bodies is so slight that doctors can discern no difference between the wound channels caused by 9mm, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP handguns


Ball or hollowpoint?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 26, 2015 11:20 PM (vxBxx)

22 My comments are being flagged.

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 26, 2015 11:21 PM (/YkzI)

23
The Human Monsters of Sci-Fi

Found out years later that a guy I encountered at conventions in my succulent teens was off stage a gay furry shota fancier. Think I even recall him inviting boys back to his suite to watch anime tapes.

Would have been nice for fandom to keep these types away from the McNuggets, but guess that would be intolerant or something.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 26, 2015 11:22 PM (kdS6q)

24 Do you suffer from Pajamaboitis? Are your feelings easily hurt by mean words? Your girlfriend hasn't made you a sandwich in months? Not sure which end of the pistol goes where?

Welcome to the Ace of Spades Man-Up Therapy group. State your name and your area of testosterone deficiency, and the group will point, laugh, slap you around, then buy you a drink. Watch, as before your very eyes, your skin thickens, your posture straightens, and you develop a craving for red meat.

Ettes-Managed Woman-Up group meets later, for recovering feminists and former Hillary supporters.

Posted by: mindful webworker - with photoshopped man-card at July 26, 2015 11:22 PM (ACs58)

25 _If the 9s are just as good why is the military looking at 4s?




Posted by: Ralph at July 26, 2015 11:22 PM (PE2bZ)

26 9 she said she couldn't hate Albert after that
Compassion is for the weak! And Leafs' fans.
Posted by: andycanuck at July

Donna is a sweetheart
Not a leafs fan

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at July 26, 2015 11:22 PM (8vO4K)

27 Posted by: Conservative Crank at July 26, 2015 11:20 PM (b2cFu)



How is SonofCrank, Probably Older Than We Want to Admit?

Posted by: Vendette at July 26, 2015 11:23 PM (TEpA2)

28 Bottom picture, my what a bottom, is from the left waist gunner position of a PBY-5A Catalina.

And back to the writing.

As for Mr. Imm, "Oy! Boy are you late to the protest."

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 26, 2015 11:23 PM (/eeUo)

29 Surrender your freedom or go homeless.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=9540

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 26, 2015 11:23 PM (/YkzI)

30 >>>Why is he naked? (Not that I'm complaining.)

To make women young enough to be his granddaughters get all wiggly 70 years later. Duh.

Posted by: DC in River City at July 26, 2015 11:23 PM (e+1S5)

31 "Why so racist against the Japanese, motherfuckers?"
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 26, 2015 11:20 PM (VY8H5)


Well the Japanese don't use enough AC IMO and are under social pressure to keep temperatures high.

And their heating is weak as well. I'm convinced that using real insulation in all new construction would make a noticeable difference in their energy consumption for heating and AC.

Posted by: Maetenloch at July 26, 2015 11:23 PM (wqVD1)

32 Is The 9mm vs .45 ACP Debate Over?

Those who insist on debating calibers endlessly should be forced to stand in a sealed shooting alley and duel it to a conclusion.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 26, 2015 11:23 PM (VY8H5)

33 Here is the "News of the Week" compilation of the news.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=9595

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 26, 2015 11:23 PM (/YkzI)

34 If the 9s are just as good why is the military looking at 4s?



Kinetic energy. 230 grains hits harder than 115 grains.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 26, 2015 11:23 PM (vxBxx)

35 "Ball or hollowpoint?"


He's awake.


And yes, there should be differences.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 11:23 PM (cbMSM)

36 Requiem for a WeirdDave post.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 26, 2015 11:24 PM (JO9+V)

37
1982 Home footage of an SCTV cast vs crew softball game

https://youtu.be/ULt_YLDGwQs

John Candy RIP. And Rick Moranis would make one heck of a sports announcer.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 26, 2015 11:25 PM (kdS6q)

38 He's awake.
And yes, there should be differences.



Headed to bed soon. 5:15 comes quick.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 26, 2015 11:25 PM (vxBxx)

39
15 rickb won't be here to accept his trophy. He's old. Goes to bed early. Gums his food and his women.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015

Ah the old gum job routine.
Joe Pepitone

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at July 26, 2015 11:25 PM (8vO4K)

40 Do you suffer from Pajamaboitis? Are your feelings
easily hurt by mean words? Your girlfriend hasn't made you a sandwich in
months? Not sure which end of the pistol goes where?



Welcome to the Ace of Spades Man-Up Therapy group. State your name
and your area of testosterone deficiency, and the group will point,
laugh, slap you around, then buy you a drink. Watch, as before your very
eyes, your skin thickens, your posture straightens, and you develop a
craving for red meat.



Ettes-Managed Woman-Up group meets later, for recovering feminists and former Hillary supporters.

Posted by: mindful webworker - with photoshopped man-card at July 26, 2015 11:22 PM (ACs5


Are you sure the EMWUG won't meet up to deal with the problem earlier?

Posted by: Vendette at July 26, 2015 11:25 PM (TEpA2)

41 Thank you, Mistress Vendette.
May I have another?

Posted by: andycanuck at July 26, 2015 11:25 PM (kivUY)

42 This comment from Bertram Cabot Jr. has been withheld in response from the copyright holder.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 26, 2015 11:25 PM (W5DcG)

43 rickb won't be here to accept his trophy. He's old. Goes to bed early. Gums his food and his women.



Honestly ashamed.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 26, 2015 11:26 PM (vxBxx)

44 34 If the 9s are just as good why is the military looking at 4s?

They're not for general issue. And until just recently they were restricted to ball ammo.

Posted by: Maetenloch at July 26, 2015 11:26 PM (wqVD1)

45 So 9s are just as good it's just that the 4s hit harder.
Sounds like some kind of 4 envy.


Posted by: Ralph at July 26, 2015 11:26 PM (PE2bZ)

46 Well the Japanese don't use enough AC IMO and are under social pressure to keep temperatures high.
Posted by: Maetenloch


Every damned room over 100ft has an A/C. I've seen bathrooms with A/C.

And their heating is weak as well. I'm convinced that using real insulation in all new construction would make a noticeable difference in their energy consumption for heating and AC.

Yeah, insulation not lack of machines.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 26, 2015 11:27 PM (VY8H5)

47 All that Greyland stuff about parents trying to force gay culture on us through child abuse and child rape, and comments are about Pujols?

Well, the evil of the leftists and the "real" absurd world are indeed hard to deal with, or even to comprehend from our sheltered American existance. We must fight to maintain this shining city on a hill ... or whatever remnant remains.

Posted by: Illiniwek at July 26, 2015 11:27 PM (6zZ5y)

48 Wood and paper houses tend to burn really easily too, Maet. (Speaking of WW2 Pacific Theatre.)

Posted by: andycanuck at July 26, 2015 11:28 PM (kivUY)

49 Thank you, Mistress Vendette.

May I have another?

Posted by: andycanuck at July 26, 2015 11:25 PM (kivUY)


Screech or Gary Bettman wasting air about another team in Canada?

Posted by: Vendette at July 26, 2015 11:29 PM (TEpA2)

50 When using any sort of "like" ammunition for comparison, the .451?
bullet of the .45 ACP is going to make a bigger hole than a .355? 9mm
bullet. That allowed, the FBI Training Division noted that with modern
ammunition, the difference in actual wounds in human bodies is so slight
that doctors can discern no difference between the wound channels
caused by 9mm, .40 SW, and .45 ACP handguns.

Of course when shot with a .44 Mag there is no hole, just a body part blown clean off. Damn poodle shooters need to man up.

Posted by: Gmac - 'all politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at July 26, 2015 11:29 PM (4pjhs)

51 "Honestly ashamed."



I am, I am.....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 11:29 PM (cbMSM)

52 The Moira Greyland story is horrifying, but also not surprising.

The radical left has long, and sometimes openly, viewed sexualization of children as a good thing. They've also long thought that sexuality was malleable. "Born this way" was always bullshit designed to win a tactical victory.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 26, 2015 11:30 PM (10ydV)

53 Is Prince Albert in the can?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 26, 2015 11:30 PM (W5DcG)

54 In Manitoba at least I can verify that AC (hydro power) was way cheaper than heat (natural gas).

Posted by: logprof at July 26, 2015 11:30 PM (guaXx)

55
SJWs Finally Go After Mel Brooks




Society is best served when ideas and their expression are be freely discussed, not arbitrarily censored.

So I've heard.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 26, 2015 11:30 PM (kdS6q)

56 Ace of Spades Man-Up Therapy

*Hilarious* music vid that works even if you don't speak German and thus can't understand the lyrics: "Frauen Sind Die Neuen Maenner" (Women Are the New Men) by Die Prinzen. It's basically about how women are not just moving into male-dominated fields but beginning to imitate the behaviors they've always complained about in men--and most of the vid is a high-powered female executive with a pajama-boy house husband... wife going out drinking with the gals when hubs has spent all day slaving over a hot stove, etc. But there are also scenes of the band having a "support group" session in which one of the guys finally blows up and tries to convince the other guys to man up and stop crying.

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at July 26, 2015 11:31 PM (iuQS7)

57 Jeffrey Imm (the dude protesting Mel Brooks) is precisely the sort of zeta male that I pray my daughters are not stuck with later in life.

Posted by: Paul at July 26, 2015 11:31 PM (MO6az)

58 "Honestly ashamed."


I am, I am.....



I am. Never wanted it. Never tried for it.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 26, 2015 11:32 PM (vxBxx)

59 Saying there's no "difference" between 9 and .45 is like saying no difference between a VW Bug and an F-150.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 11:32 PM (cbMSM)

Posted by: Kindltot at July 26, 2015 11:32 PM (3pRHP)

61 Anna, I also rather imagine that any Jap (yeah, I said it) pilot angling in for a gun-pass on that Catalina, would be both initially very shocked, and subsequently find his honor insulted, to find himself being shot at by a naked .50 gunner in the blister.

Might be just enough cognitive dissonance as to contribute to a missed shot.

But, I can hear the Jap pilot, muttering to himself as he flies away........

"............ the balls on that gaijin!"



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 26, 2015 11:32 PM (RzZOc)

62 AC? It's not the heat it's the humidity .. Europe has the ocean to moderate its climate, like California. The rest of us swelter under high humidity, but we grow great crops, now from air conditioned comfort ride tractors and combines. If we'd unionize as farmers, the world would be our oyster, but we are too nice for that. So just enjoy the safest and most abundant food in the world.

Posted by: Illiniwek at July 26, 2015 11:33 PM (6zZ5y)

63 Stolen jokes twats link is busted.

Posted by: logprof at July 26, 2015 11:33 PM (guaXx)

64 >>Why is he naked? (Not that I'm complaining.)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone

Story here:
http://tinyurl.com/nhm8k34

Posted by: Aviator at July 26, 2015 11:33 PM (c7vUv)

65 *whistles at Laundry Day Gunner*

And I did so notice the "know the enemy" silhouette poster in that pic. It is right next to his splendid ass--how could I miss it?

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 26, 2015 11:33 PM (GG9V6)

66 What Happened to Film Crushes of the Eighties?

I know what happened to me after that pool scene with Phoebe Cates. I went to my bunk and it took months to get me out of it

Posted by: kbdabear at July 26, 2015 11:33 PM (GrXXa)

67
Are be? Hmmmm -- that's quality proofreading.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 26, 2015 11:33 PM (kdS6q)

68 All that Greyland stuff about parents trying to force gay culture on us through child abuse and child rape, and comments are about Pujols?

Because that's what a REAL dad looks like. Too many people have forgotten, which is why the likes of Breen get away with their crimes too long.

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at July 26, 2015 11:34 PM (iuQS7)

69 60 comments and not a single comment about catching hot brass, or clearing jams.

It is like I don't even know you guys.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 26, 2015 11:34 PM (3pRHP)

70 Essentially yes. With modern HP 9mm ammunition there's effectively no difference between the two calibers. So use whichever you
---- as my father would say, I will have one of each

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at July 26, 2015 11:34 PM (8vO4K)

71 I'll bet hes wearing shoes. Stepping in a puddle of expended shell casings could result in a real Mexican hat dance. Wait..., can I say that? Is it racist? Is it appropriation?

Rather sad..., that guy is very likely passed away by now.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 26, 2015 11:35 PM (+c55T)

72 Hola amigos.

Posted by: Arson Wells at July 26, 2015 11:35 PM (UnJ7w)

73 And I like 9mm....


So.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 11:35 PM (cbMSM)

74 Vendette: Are you sure the EMWUG won't meet up to deal with the problem earlier?

You caught me. I really don't know the schedule, didn't get the memo, what with not being a ette & all.

Posted by: mindful webworker - with photoshopped man-card at July 26, 2015 11:36 PM (ACs58)

75 >>I'll bet hes wearing shoes.

Not according to the story I read. He had stripped off all of his clothes to rescue someone from the water and returned to his gun position immediately.

Posted by: Aviator at July 26, 2015 11:37 PM (c7vUv)

76 I know what happened to me after that pool scene with Phoebe Cates. I went to my bunk and it took months to get me out of it
Posted by: kbdabear at July 26, 2015 11:33 PM (GrXXa)

***

Yep, the topless scene from that flick caused callouses which took until I was in my 20s to resolve.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 26, 2015 11:37 PM (1eYr7)

77 Why is he naked?
Posted by: Y-not
------------------------

A post that answers itself.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 26, 2015 11:37 PM (+c55T)

78 That naked gunner over Rabaul was courageous for expressing his gayness in a time of repression and homophobia.

Posted by: SJW at July 26, 2015 11:37 PM (guaXx)

79 _And nothing about Cruz getting 3 of a needed 16. How, how in the world were there not 16 men persons to vote for bringing amendments to the floor? Good God save us.


Posted by: Ralph at July 26, 2015 11:38 PM (PE2bZ)

80 Hello, Arson, grab a seat.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 11:38 PM (cbMSM)

81 Hey Ricardo, thanks!

Posted by: Arson Wells at July 26, 2015 11:39 PM (UnJ7w)

82 Why is he naked? (Not that I'm complaining.)
Posted by: Y-not

Because it was probably unbearably hot.

I guy I used to know (long dead from cancer) was in the Merchant Marine in WWII, and was asleep naked in his bunk (hammock) when they called them to General Quarters in the middle of the night. They were crossing the Indian Ocean, and it was 104F in the middle of the night.
He reports to battle stations with his life perserver and helmet on, and nothing else. He was lucky he wasn't busted out for that, even in the Merchant Marine. He told me that story and was laughing the whole time. About 38 years ago.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at July 26, 2015 11:39 PM (+1T7c)

83 73 And I like 9mm....


So.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July

That's cool with me. No one said you were pajama boy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at July 26, 2015 11:39 PM (8vO4K)

84 Vendette: Are you sure the EMWUG won't meet up to deal with the problem earlier?



You caught me. I really don't know the schedule, didn't get the memo, what with not being a ette all.

Posted by: mindful webworker - with photoshopped man-card at July 26, 2015 11:36 PM (ACs5


I'll just send beverages and fancy desserts to the meeting...

Posted by: Vendette at July 26, 2015 11:39 PM (TEpA2)

85 59
Saying there's no "difference" between 9 and .45 is like saying no difference between a VW Bug and an F-150.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill

And then there's the 44 Mag, which is the F-350 Crew cab LB 4WD compared the the other two.

Posted by: Gmac - 'all politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at July 26, 2015 11:39 PM (4pjhs)

86 Not according to the story I read. He had stripped off all of his clothes to rescue someone from the water and returned to his gun position immediately.
Posted by: Aviator
------------

Ah. Got it. A PBY. That also explains the ship profiles.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 26, 2015 11:40 PM (+c55T)

87 In honor of The Empress's Birthday today ...

Alextopia Day ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/625337993767833600

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/625338456462467072

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/625338803167887360

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/625340485016682497

Posted by: kbdabear at July 26, 2015 11:41 PM (GrXXa)

88 A Forgotten 80s Song: Translator - Everywhere That I'm Not

Forgotten? Heck, no! They were a big part of the KQAK way back when. No Time Like Now was another big (well, locally, I guess) single.

Posted by: t-bird at July 26, 2015 11:42 PM (FcR7P)

89 Elisabeth G. Wolfe: "Frauen Sind Die Neuen Maenner" (Women Are the New Men) by Die Prinzen.

Off to watch it.
https://youtu.be/pVp4DgN_Itw

Posted by: mindful webworker - with photoshopped man-card at July 26, 2015 11:42 PM (ACs58)

90 Cool, a mention of Ione Skye.

Posted by: logprof at July 26, 2015 11:42 PM (guaXx)

91
to wound the autumnal city

Posted by: DoverPro at July 26, 2015 11:42 PM (wN82N)

92 I prefer 9mm over .40 S&W. Usually two more rounds on board, negligible terminal differences. And the damn .40 gives more kick and costs more to run.

That said, I prefer the venerable .45 ACP over 'em both. 1911 Commander is never far from hand. And now that Ruger makes an affordable Lightweight Commander, I'll be checking into that option, right soon.

And the 9mm gets damn near as small as the .380 in some guns, with the exception of KelTec P3AT and Ruger's LCP.

It's all a tradeoff, and it all largely depends on the season and one's wardrobe.

Besides, there's always the wheelgun options, too. And don't think you're undergunned with a J frame Smith, either.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 26, 2015 11:43 PM (RzZOc)

93 Alextopia Day Festivities ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/625342983781646337

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/625359093004275712

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/625360578412834816

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/625383575685304320

Posted by: kbdabear at July 26, 2015 11:43 PM (GrXXa)

94 I'm a life long Cards fan and loved Pujols, but was glad he got big money in CA so we could spend that money on younger talent. He was a force for good for his kid and his support groups. But of course any mega star would stand up for his kid ... and that is nice.

Those in tougher situations are bigger "heroes". Still glad Albert got the big bucks ... good to see he's had a comeback this year in hitting ... big league sports are a strange part of capitalist America. Go Team.

Posted by: Illiniwek at July 26, 2015 11:43 PM (6zZ5y)

95 "That's cool with me. No one said you were pajama boy"


No, 9mm has a place. Hotter than my .38 and less than .45.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 11:43 PM (cbMSM)

96 Keeping the spirit of Alextopia Day ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/625384656922349568

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/625448451699015681

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/625448746080436224

Posted by: kbdabear at July 26, 2015 11:44 PM (GrXXa)

97 There was a poster?

Huh.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 26, 2015 11:47 PM (gcV0z)

98 I dunno. If I absolutely had to get a handgun, it'd probably be a .357 revolver. If I didn't, I'd probably buy a couple of months worth of beer, honestly.

Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at July 26, 2015 11:47 PM (Q819Q)

99 Wow. That girly bunch of weeds called 'Translator' sure do suck.

Trust me on this. I wear lipstick.

Posted by: Robert Smith of The Cure at July 26, 2015 11:47 PM (GST/+)

100 Posted by: Illiniwek at July 26, 2015 11:43 PM (6zZ5y)




I've visited STL and suburbs many times in the past 6 years. Cards fans will visit from hundreds of miles away. I think it's part of the fact that KMOX is a blowtorch. But Cards fans are devoted.

Posted by: Vendette at July 26, 2015 11:47 PM (TEpA2)

101 *looks at pic again*

So there is.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 26, 2015 11:47 PM (gcV0z)

102 "Besides, there's always the wheelgun options, too. And don't think you're undergunned with a J frame Smith, either"


Taurus. baby, Taurus.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 11:48 PM (cbMSM)

103 Early for a nominee for thread-winner? Hammer: good spot, as we say in our family.

Why is he naked?
Posted by: Y-not
------------------------

A post that answers itself.

Posted by: Mike Hammer

Posted by: mindful webworker - wreched mortal at July 26, 2015 11:48 PM (ACs58)

104
I have a .32 magnum Ruger. Damn hard to get ammo sometimes. But it is a cool caliber.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 26, 2015 11:48 PM (ODxAs)

105 KMOX is a blowtorch.

True story: It's been quite a while since we tried, but it used to be that we could get KMOX on the car radio here in Central Texas. That was fun.

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at July 26, 2015 11:50 PM (iuQS7)

106 9mm easier to carry concealed and greater magazine capacity than the .45. Open carry I would choose the .45 . Probably though will never open carry until the burning times.

Posted by: Cruzinator at July 26, 2015 11:50 PM (KkliO)

107
Kinetic energy. 230 grains hits harder than 115 grains.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 26, 2015 11:23 PM (vxBxx)


Note that kinetic energy = 1/2mV^2 Double the mass at a given velocity, you double the kinetic energy. Double the velocity of a slug of given mass, and you quadruple kinetic energy. If you start with 230 grain bullets, and 115 grain bullets, both with the same velocity, you need only increase the velocity of the smaller bullet by 1.414 (root, 2) to double its kinetic energy.


I'm not partisan in the 9 mm vs .45 ACP debate; just pointing out that velocity is the more critical term in kinetic energy calculations because of that little "2" superscript.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 26, 2015 11:50 PM (DAtNG)

108 "104
I have a .32 magnum Ruger"


.32 HR?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 11:51 PM (cbMSM)

109 True story: It's been quite a while since we tried,
but it used to be that we could get KMOX on the car radio here in
Central Texas. That was fun.

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at July 26, 2015 11:50 PM (iuQS7)


Up in Canada, we used to get AM stations in Oklahoma.

Posted by: Vendette at July 26, 2015 11:51 PM (TEpA2)

110 47 All that Greyland stuff about parents trying to force gay culture on us through child abuse and child rape, and comments are about Pujols?

Posted by: Illiniwek at July 26, 2015 11:27 PM (6zZ5y)

It's a touching story, which is why I told it and why Vendette pasted it in this thread. Thanks, Vendette.

In that instance, Albert was acting as a man and a father should act - protective of his child. The terrible Greyland story is about parents preying on their child and other children as well.

We hear so much about politicians, sport figures, celebrities, and yes, writers behaving horribly - it's rather nice to contemplate someone, who, in a small way, did something kind and loving.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at July 26, 2015 11:51 PM (+XMAD)

111 Damn hard to get ammo sometimes.
----------------

Sometimes?

Posted by: .222 Magnum at July 26, 2015 11:52 PM (+c55T)

112
yep.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 26, 2015 11:52 PM (ODxAs)

113 In Myrtle Beach for the week, hotel wifi sucks hind dogs balls so I'm using my phone as a hotspot. Won't be on long or much because it's eating up my data, but just wanted to drop in and see whazzap.



And now that I've seen it, I'm off. Later roonz and roonettez, fear no evil!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, Trophy Chapter at July 26, 2015 11:52 PM (jWSMR)

114 Posted by: Donna V. (brandishing ampersands) at July 26, 2015 11:51 PM (+XMAD)



Yup. That's why I posted it.

Posted by: Vendette at July 26, 2015 11:53 PM (TEpA2)

115 Guy Mowhawk..... Buffalo Bore will always have .32 S&W in stock. Very mild loads, but they'll run in your gun.

I'd like to get a six-shot J frame chambered in .327 Federal Magnum.

Will shoot that, and chamber the .32 H&R mag, the .32 S&W and .32 Long. And that .327 Federal is a fire-breathing dragon for it's size.

Pity, it hasn't really caught on. Good round, would be a perfect game-getter for the camp, too.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 26, 2015 11:53 PM (RzZOc)

116 105 KMOX is a blowtorch
--------
As a kid I use to listen to St Louis Blues on KMOX where I was in NE Wisconsin

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at July 26, 2015 11:53 PM (8vO4K)

117 My nephew and his bride are now in Rome on their honeymoon. He texted my sister and said it's hotter than hell there right now.

Most of Europe is pretty temperate, but I don't think southern Italy falls into the catagory during the summer.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at July 26, 2015 11:53 PM (+XMAD)

118 Up in Canada, we used to get AM stations in Oklahoma.
Posted by: Vendette
-----------------

We regularly (in NC) listened to WABC, in NY. Cousin Brucie.

Also WOWO, Ft Wayne.

Posted by: .222 Magnum at July 26, 2015 11:54 PM (+c55T)

119 And now that I've seen it, I'm off. Later roonz and roonettez, fear no evil!


Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, Trophy Chapter at July 26, 2015 11:52 PM (jWSMR)

He's getting married, he's getting married, ain't he got fun?

Posted by: Vendette at July 26, 2015 11:54 PM (TEpA2)

120
hmmm....thanks Jim!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 26, 2015 11:54 PM (ODxAs)

121 I bet France wish they had more A/C about a decade ago when a heat wave was knocking off their senior citizens like flies.

Posted by: Cruzinator at July 26, 2015 11:55 PM (KkliO)

122
I like that revolver, and my wife can handle it as well, which is the main bonus.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 26, 2015 11:55 PM (ODxAs)

123 Is this where we talk about .38 Super?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 26, 2015 11:56 PM (+c55T)

124 What's your damage, Heather?

Posted by: Veronica at July 26, 2015 11:56 PM (TF10X)

125 "
Sometimes?
Posted by: .222 Magnum "



You got some .222.



Around back. Alcohol in it for you.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 11:56 PM (cbMSM)

126 Scientists Identify Sixth Taste: Fat

I still call bullshit on the usage of 'umami'.

'Savory' covers the term. The affectation is just the exoticism.

Also, i'm surprised the Post Modern-Savonarolas haven't tried to shame celebrity chefs from using it as it smacks of the 'sin' of cultural appropriation.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 26, 2015 11:57 PM (VY8H5)

127 " Is this where we talk about .38 Super?"



Effin A.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 11:57 PM (cbMSM)

128 Taurus. baby, Taurus.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 26, 2015 11:48 PM (cbMSM)

****

Six and half a dozen in terms of quality, now. Early days, S&W all the way, baby.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 26, 2015 11:57 PM (2z4UX)

129 The last time I listened to KMOX, I was driving into STL when there was a storm that brought dangerous hail and killed someone near Busch Stadium.


I'm grateful I listened.

Posted by: Vendette at July 26, 2015 11:57 PM (TEpA2)

130 G'evening Horde. Discovered that a machine that won't install from a Win7 DVD can still install from a Win7 Boot USB.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 26, 2015 11:57 PM (+2//H)

131 You got some .222.
Around back. Alcohol in it for you.
Posted by: Ricardo
-----------------

.222 common as dirt, by contrast with the mag.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 26, 2015 11:58 PM (+c55T)

132 I bet France wish they had more A/C about a decade ago when a heat wave was knocking off their senior citizens like flies.

That was just the French version of the Liverpool Pathway. All the relatives were on vacation.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 26, 2015 11:58 PM (W5DcG)

133 At least six (and probably many, many more) people who were raised in homosexual households like Moira Greyland's, wrote Amicus briefs to the supreme court before their decision in favor of gay marriage.

Burn in hell, "Justice" Kennedy, et. al.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 26, 2015 11:58 PM (+jijM)

134 All that Greyland stuff about parents trying to force gay culture on us
through child abuse and child rape, and comments are about Pujols?


Posted by: Illiniwek at July 26, 2015 11:27 PM (6zZ5y)


The idea of destroying the sense of self so that "everyone belongs to everyone else" has been most disturbingly seen by the West German left in the 1960's and 1970's:

The Sexual Revolution and Children: How the Left Took Things Too Far
http://preview.tinyurl.com/dxrv8ow

Shadows from the Past: Pedophile Links Haunt Green Party
http://preview.tinyurl.com/cjpljxv

Principled Pedophilia and the German Left
http://preview.tinyurl.com/op7ocb5


Posted by: The Political Hat at July 27, 2015 12:00 AM (/YkzI)

135 MH. .38 Super is the only caliber for which I want a full size Government Model 1911. Much as I love the balance and feel of a Commander, the Super simply belongs in that 5 in. barrel.

Oh, .....barre....um....I didn't say that! Beetlejuice!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 27, 2015 12:00 AM (RzZOc)

136 "Six and half a dozen in terms of quality, now. Early days, S&W all the way, baby."

I think you are disparaging my Taurus revolver.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 27, 2015 12:00 AM (cbMSM)

137 G'evening Horde. Discovered that a machine that won't install from a Win7 DVD can still install from a Win7 Boot USB.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 26, 2015 11:57 PM (+2//H)

***

If you go into the BIOS and change the boot order, then sure.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 27, 2015 12:01 AM (cygkw)

138 Good night, all!!!!

Posted by: Vendette at July 27, 2015 12:01 AM (TEpA2)

139 136 "Six and half a dozen in terms of quality, now. Early days, S&W all the way, baby."

I think you are disparaging my Taurus revolver.
Posted by: Ricardo

Not me. I might disparage your cooking skills but never your guns

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at July 27, 2015 12:02 AM (8vO4K)

140 "MH. .38 Super is the only caliber for which I want a full size Government Model 1911. "


I'd love a 1911 in Super.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 27, 2015 12:02 AM (cbMSM)

141 "I know what happened to me after that pool scene with Phoebe Cates. I went to my bunk and it took months to get me out of it



Posted by: kbdabear"

Probably ranks in the top 5 "Most Replayed Scenes" in the DVD hall of fame.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 27, 2015 12:02 AM (Wo9OY)

142 Nite Vendette
Have an interesting day tomorrow I bet

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at July 27, 2015 12:03 AM (8vO4K)

143 I think you are disparaging my Taurus revolver.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 27, 2015 12:00 AM (cbMSM)

***

I think you are misreading my comment.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 27, 2015 12:03 AM (2z4UX)

144 MH. .38 Super is the only caliber for which I want a full size Government Model 1911. Much as I love the balance and feel of a Commander, the Super simply belongs in that 5 in. barrel.

Jim
----------------

Buddy has one. It kinda scares me...., can't say why.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 27, 2015 12:04 AM (9mTYi)

145 Probably ranks in the top 5 "Most Replayed Scenes" in the DVD hall of fame.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert


I think you mean VHS, grandpa.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 27, 2015 12:05 AM (VY8H5)

146 "I think you are misreading my comment."

Re-read it to me.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 27, 2015 12:05 AM (cbMSM)

147 "I think you mean VHS, grandpa.

Posted by: weft cut-loop"

Never saw a VHS player that you could put on auto loop.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 27, 2015 12:06 AM (Wo9OY)

148 that little "2" superscript.

Oh, you maths weenies.

Yeah, it's why a .177 at 5200fps does more work than a .30-06 at 2800fps.

Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at July 27, 2015 12:09 AM (Q819Q)

149 Someone told me that .38 Super is very loud.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 27, 2015 12:09 AM (W5DcG)

150 Re-read it to me.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 27, 2015 12:05 AM (cbMSM)

***

See above.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 27, 2015 12:09 AM (2z4UX)

151 The story behind the naked Catalina gunner:
https://elpoderdelasgalaxias.wordpress.com/2015/04/27/consolidated-pby-catalina-the-naked-samaritan/

Posted by: Tyrconnell at July 27, 2015 12:10 AM (37ZZQ)

152 Those of you that want the .38 Super in a full sized body should look to the Star Model A Super:

9mm Largo.

http://www.9mmlargo.com/star_spr/index.htm

Posted by: Kindltot at July 27, 2015 12:11 AM (3pRHP)

153 Never saw a VHS player that you could put on auto loop.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 27, 2015 12

You need to get out more

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at July 27, 2015 12:11 AM (8vO4K)

154 ...Texas Supreme Court has given the city of Houston 30 days to either repeal it's ridiculous rules governing public restroom use by the opposite sex or put it on the ballot for voter approval.

Bathrooms will be marked X and Y. Entrance permitted after spit is chemically analyzed. XX get one room. Everybody else shares the other. Easy pee-sey.

Posted by: mindful webworker - that's an XY, baby! at July 27, 2015 12:11 AM (ACs58)

155 Alll good, Night everybody.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 27, 2015 12:13 AM (cbMSM)

156 Bathrooms will be marked X and Y. Entrance permitted
after spit is chemically analyzed. XX get one room. Everybody else
shares the other. Easy pee-sey.

Posted by: mindful webworker - that's an XY, baby! at July 27, 2015 12:11 AM (ACs5


Chromosomes are just social constructs...

Posted by: Critical Biology Studies major (with a minor in crysstal healing) at July 27, 2015 12:14 AM (/YkzI)

157 Evening horde.

Back from tubing the Shenandoah/Rappahanock.

Damn fun.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 27, 2015 12:14 AM (XAFOu)

158 Nite morons.
No recurve/compound fights
Be well

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at July 27, 2015 12:14 AM (8vO4K)

159 The radical left has long, and sometimes openly, viewed sexualization of children as a good thing. They've also long thought that sexuality was malleable. "Born this way" was always bullshit designed to win a tactical victory.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 26, 2015 11:30 PM (10ydV

There was a very creepy textbook "Our Bodies, Ourselves" by the "Boston Women's Health Collective" which came out in the 1970's. My sister had it as a textbook then (she went to a nominally Catholic women's college, but believe me, this college went Left Wing Feminist big time in the '70's, so much so that it was a local joke. The Catholicism was barely present.).

I was in high school and it shocked me - filled not only with godawful black and white photographs of hairy, unattractive 70's feministas, but with really disturbing stories from "liberated women."

I remember stories in that book about how these women encouraged their small kids to masturbate and how they would let their kids touch them inappropriately. (Didn't want to cause them to have any 'hangups' you see.)

There was one story I still remember after all these years - a feminists'uptight 50's mom was visiting and was appalled when the feminist's little toddler came running out naked and holding an empty TP roll. The kid squatted down and peed though the roll all over the kitchen floor, which the feminist thought was great. "She's so uninhibited!!" The grandma was repressed and stuff because she didn't approve of kids peeing on the kitchen floor.

Thank God, my sister saw though this shit. My parents would have been throughout appalled if they had gotten a look at this textbook.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at July 27, 2015 12:14 AM (+XMAD)

160 Okay, another old phart checks out. Now the real fun can begin, huh, keeds? (Never mind the security camera.)

Good night, Gracies. After you say your prayers tonight, be sure to add Thank-Yous.

Posted by: mindful webworker - flames out over the lake at July 27, 2015 12:16 AM (ACs58)

161 Women (real, honest to Jesus and grilled steak women) ain't gonna put up with faggots and pervs and transfuckers dicking around in their bathrooms. That's all.

Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997 at July 27, 2015 12:16 AM (Q819Q)

162 I used to have a 1929 4-digit Colt Super 38

Posted by: Kim K. at July 27, 2015 12:16 AM (LAliD)

163 Kim K. That there was a Holy Grail Gun.

I shall pray for your forgiveness for letting it slip from your fingers.

*weeps bitter tears*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 27, 2015 12:18 AM (RzZOc)

164 Sidebar: 1/5th of the population of El Salvador lives in the USA.
Uhhh, whose idea was this?
(@ComradeArthur )


Well, it's either them or the Guatemalans.

Posted by: restaurant owners e'rrywhere at July 27, 2015 12:19 AM (VY8H5)

165 I used to have a 1929 4-digit Colt Super 38

Posted by: Kim K. at July 27, 2015 12:16 AM (LAliD)


I used to have a 110 year old c96 "Broomhandle" Mauser in the original 7.63mm Mauser caliber... until that tragic boating accident.

Posted by: The Political Broomhandle at July 27, 2015 12:20 AM (/YkzI)

166 Good night, horde!

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at July 27, 2015 12:21 AM (+XMAD)

167
32 revolvers are very hard to come by in Commiefornia. Ruger's 327 offerings (also not plentiful, but allowed to be "imported") defeat my purpose - getting a small/light platform the wife will handle/like better.

Caliber wars: recall that a sidearm for the military is a comparatively small matter, not related to actual combat power. Outside special forces, it's a fairly small consideration. So .... weight. Just asI marvel at the WWII GI humping his Garand and even one 10-clip ammo belt plus a few extras (along with everything else),when comparing to an M-4 and standard ammo load-out, think of the weight differences. When I'm shooting 45, my rangebag or ammo can weighs a ton; with 9, much lighter (for more rounds).

Given the minor role played bystandard sidearms for most forces, the weight/logistics considerations alone for calibers with comparable effects seem clear.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 27, 2015 12:22 AM (QDnY+)

168 1/5th of the population of El Salvador lives in the USA.
---------------

*rubs hands together*
*excellent, excellent!*

Posted by: The Left at July 27, 2015 12:22 AM (9mTYi)

169 If the 9s are just as good why is the military looking at 4s?

They're racists.

Posted by: Jean at July 27, 2015 12:23 AM (ztOda)

170 Night, Donna, and thanks for the Pujols story!

Thinking I'd better sign off myself. Catch y'all later!

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at July 27, 2015 12:23 AM (iuQS7)

171 I can't seem to find a poster in that picture, I guess I'll have to keep looking until I find it. *is it hot in here?*

Posted by: Amy Rey at July 27, 2015 12:24 AM (HTToz)

172 I shot several 38 supers in Brazil, I like them -- but I need I little less diversity in my closet.

Posted by: Jean at July 27, 2015 12:25 AM (ztOda)

173 One of my roofing customers gifted me, as a tip, with a Marlin 1892 in .22 LR, which was manufactured in 1898.

NRA good condition, a solid shooter in every respect. Real market value right around $1,300.

Should've known better than to take it out snipe hunting in that canoe on Galveston Bay.

Damn canoe.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 27, 2015 12:25 AM (RzZOc)

174 82 Why is he naked? (Not that I'm complaining.)
Posted by: Y-not


My father arrived on Guam shortly before the U.S. nuked Japan. A month or so after the surrender, Admiral Nimitz visited the naval base at Guam. My dad stepped out of the showers, buck naked, just in time to see Nimitz's jeep heading his way before making a turn in front of the showers.

Since dad was out of uniform, he couldn't salute, so he just stood there as Nimitz approached and passed in front of him.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at July 27, 2015 12:25 AM (0RdKg)

175
PBY story sounds right, rescued a flyer from the water, no time to put clothes back on. In all likelihood, though, those "clothes" would have consisted of shorts, in that climate. Friend who was Guadalcanal (fairly early, October '42 as a replacement after the "Night of the Battleships") said they rarely wore more than shorts and boots (aviation ordnanceman, he never left the ground). He's got a great collection of photos to prove it - skinny young Depression kids standing there in shorts and boots striking tough poses with 1911s and Thompsons, in front of palm trees.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 27, 2015 12:26 AM (QDnY+)

176 Since dad was out of uniform, he couldn't salute, so he just stood there as Nimitz approached and passed in front of him.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at July 27, 2015 12:25 AM (0RdKg)

that's a great story!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 27, 2015 12:26 AM (0O7c5)

177 #ElSalvadoranLivesMatter

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 27, 2015 12:26 AM (W5DcG)

178 "Women (real, honest to Jesus and grilled steak
women) ain't gonna put up with faggots and pervs and transfuckers
dicking around in their bathrooms. That's all.


Posted by: Snoodling World Champion 1997"

It's eventually going to end up that:

1: Businesses will no longer have public restrooms of any sort if they can get away with it.

2: All places that have to have restrooms, they will be single occupant "pods".

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 27, 2015 12:27 AM (Wo9OY)

179 I used to have a 110 year old c96 "Broomhandle" Mauser in the original 7.63mm Mauser caliber... until that tragic boating accident.

Posted by: The Political Broomhandle at July 27, 2015 12:20 AM (/YkzI)


Yannow, if you were to let slip where that calamity took place, I'd be tempting to go dredging for it. Under Canada's weird gun laws, a C96 Mauser is deemed an "antique firearm" and is not subject to registration of any kind.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2015 12:28 AM (DAtNG)

180 "Friend who was Guadalcanal (fairly early, October
'42 as a replacement after the "Night of the Battleships") said they
rarely wore more than shorts and boots (aviation ordnanceman, he never
left the ground). He's got a great collection of photos to prove it -
skinny young Depression kids standing there in shorts and boots striking
tough poses with 1911s and Thompsons, in front of palm trees.



Posted by: rhomboid"

He very likely may have ran across my dad, who was working at the airfield on Guadalcanal in the Marine engineers.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 27, 2015 12:29 AM (Wo9OY)

181 The story behind the naked Catalina gunner:
https://elpoderdelasgalaxias.wordpress.com/2015/04/27/consolidated-pby-catalina-the-naked-samaritan/
Posted by: Tyrconnell


The picture of the flight of P-38s on D-Day is awesome.

Posted by: Jean at July 27, 2015 12:29 AM (ztOda)

182 Air conditioning could solve many of the problems coming from the middle east. Seriously, if you were sweating all day long with 20 of your "brothers" wouldn't you be pissed off too?

Posted by: NC Ref at July 27, 2015 12:30 AM (Myqtp)

183 Rhomboid. That .327 Federal chambering will also run the .32 H&R Magnum, the .32 S&W and the .32 Long.

Those last two cartridges will have barely more recoil than a .22 LR.

So, you're not going to go wrong with a Ruger GP-101 in .327 Fed. Just run it with the bunny fart loadings, and turn her loose with it.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 27, 2015 12:30 AM (RzZOc)

184 It's eventually going to end up that:

1: Businesses will no longer have public restrooms of any sort if they can get away with it.

2: All places that have to have restrooms, they will be single occupant "pods".
Posted by: AshevilleRobert


3: Surge in sales of women's purses stitched together well enough to hold 4 rolls of coins in the bottom for beating the crap out of guys in women's bathrooms.

Posted by: Jean at July 27, 2015 12:32 AM (ztOda)

185 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 27, 2015 12:33 AM (bZQB+)

186
Michael the Hobbit, thanks for sharing that. Which reminds me to once again call upon Muldoon, if he's reading this, to again share excerpts from his dad's WWII diary, when he feels like it. Those so far were excellent.

And on that note, a sad note. A friend's father passed away at 90 last week. Navy corpsman, first wave ashore at Iwo Jima - and he never got so much as a scratch, while something like 90% of corpsmen there were casualties, overall. The Japanese, as with other corpsmen, would learn his nickname and attempt to lure him out into the open during combat by trying to imitate wounded Marines calling for him.

Co A, 5th Medical Bttn, 5th Marine Division - another irreplaceable American, RIP

Posted by: rhomboid at July 27, 2015 12:36 AM (QDnY+)

187 Sure, lots of SF writers are child molesters, but at least they're not neo-reactionary anti-progressives calling for an end to social justice.

Anyone here want to try guest posting on my blog some time?

Posted by: Dave M at July 27, 2015 12:37 AM (eKJf5)

188
1/5th of the population of El Salvador lives in the USA.



"Migrants" quoth Gabe.

Although, they never seem to, you know, migrate the other direction.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 27, 2015 12:38 AM (kdS6q)

189 Rhomboid.

Just stood and raised a toast to your friend's Corpsman father.

Respectfully.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 27, 2015 12:38 AM (RzZOc)

190 Anyone here want to try guest posting on my blog some time?

Posted by: Dave M at July 27, 2015 12:37 AM (eKJf5)


Sure! What's it called?

Posted by: Martin Bashir at July 27, 2015 12:38 AM (/YkzI)

191
Jim, thanks. I'm aware of the versatility of that chambering (one reason I like the idea) - but I'm looking for a revolver that's lighter than those using the .327. Given the "heft" of that caliber (when full house) obviously I'm paddling up-stream.

But hey, I just thought of a good use for those scandium/alloy revolver frames - a .327, using the down-loaded other 32 calibers, might actually be a sweet combo. Don't think there's a scandium .327 out there, yet, though.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 27, 2015 12:39 AM (QDnY+)

192
Mr Browning's pistol in .45ACP, Mr Garand's lovely invention in 30.06 and my beloved M14 in 7.62.

I own all 3 and really see no need for anything else, which leaves me more money for their food.

But STILL there is a gang of other weapons of varying calibers crowding up the gun room.

Someone should do a study on this phenomonon.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 27, 2015 12:40 AM (jeCnD)

193 175 Interesting that the photographer was under the command of Edward Steichen. I had forgotten his war work.

So many admirable people.

Posted by: gracepc at July 27, 2015 12:40 AM (DMQhB)

194 1/5th of the population of El Salvador lives in the USA.

"Migrants" quoth Gabe.

Although, they never seem to, you know, migrate the other direction.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 27, 2015 12:38 AM (kdS6q)


How about this: The other 4/5 can come to the U.S. if the Horde can get the now-empty El Salvador.

Salvadoran hotties, of course, will be welcome to stay...

Posted by: The Fruited Hat at July 27, 2015 12:40 AM (/YkzI)

195 Although, they never seem to, you know, migrate the other direction.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix


It should have been one the biggest tell that the GOP just really didn't care in that they never have described why unmitigated immigration is a bad thing to a republic.

And by didn't, as in 1986. I'm almost still unconvinced myself.

Posted by: restaurant owners e'rrywhere at July 27, 2015 12:40 AM (VY8H5)

196 You want lighter than an LCR in .38?

Posted by: Jean at July 27, 2015 12:42 AM (ztOda)

197 You may find this interesting: In India I was nosily checking out the travel guides in a book shop, and looked to see what they said about Washington, D.C., only because I lived there for a few years, and was curious how other people saw it.

I remember in the "be prepared" and "weather" sections the book warned Indians to be aware that the U.S. capital is extremely hot and that going from the inside of a building to the outside on an August day (the hottest part of summer) could be very surprising as "the outside air at times hits you like a furnace." That was over ten years ago and I still remember my laughter and thinking about Indians being warned about our country's hot weather.

Posted by: Lisl at July 27, 2015 12:45 AM (LzjBu)

198
Salvadoran hotties, of course, will be welcome to stay...
Posted by: The Fruited Hat




American's insistence that "Gas, Ass or Grass: Nobody Rides for Free" is one of our most beloved traditions.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 27, 2015 12:45 AM (kdS6q)

199 Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at July 27, 2015 12:14 AM (+XMAD)

Yeah, pretty much the whole sexual revolution was a commie plot and a disaster.

"Free Love" and abandoning monogamy seems to inevitably end up in these weird dark places.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at July 27, 2015 12:47 AM (10ydV)

200 Asheville Robert, indeed. He definitely ran across Pappy Boyington, who was XO of his squadron (VMF-122), and who, he says, was everything his legend implies.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 27, 2015 12:47 AM (QDnY+)

201 Mr Browning's pistol in .45ACP, Mr Garand's lovely invention in 30.06 and my beloved M14 in 7.62.

I own all 3 and really see no need for anything else, which leaves me more money for their food.

But STILL there is a gang of other weapons of varying calibers crowding up the gun room.

Someone should do a study on this phenomonon.
Posted by: irongrampa


To be honest, since I moved to the east coast, every shot I've even contemplated while hunting could have been done with my redhawk in 357; and properly dressed (shoulder rig and field jacket) is it concealable. So I could go without all my little friends.

Posted by: Jean at July 27, 2015 12:48 AM (ztOda)

202 Time for the old folk. Eye exam tomorrow to see if there is any change in my vision,maybe I can do away with the contacts.

Remember, people, we're Americans, so keep the head HIGH.


Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 27, 2015 12:48 AM (jeCnD)

203 Back in the 80s, when video rental stores ruled the wasteland, they bought multiple copies of hot new movies to rent. They then sold them as used when the initial crush had run its course.

But you didn't want to buy a used copy of Fast Times, since the tape was usually worn out at the Cates scene. Go figure.

Heard a great analogy today -- Calling an illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a drug dealer an unlicensed pharmacist.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 27, 2015 12:50 AM (oAsiA)

204 hi all
hey what happened to the early morning Dave thread?

Posted by: chemjeff @ Houston at July 27, 2015 12:51 AM (4wasR)

205 Rhomboid. Get the .327 in the Ruger LCR, but opt for the newer 3" version, with adjustable sights and a conventional hammer, featuring both single and double action modes.

Better balance, versatility and sight radius.

Find one and check it out, amigo.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 27, 2015 12:52 AM (RzZOc)

206 night iron

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 27, 2015 12:52 AM (0O7c5)

207 149 Someone told me that .38 Super is very loud.

----------

I have a Colt M1911 chambered for .38 Super. It's rare and awesome.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 27, 2015 12:52 AM (oZr5y)

208 Or rather, I did have such a gun before the Tragic Canoe Expedition of '08.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 27, 2015 12:54 AM (oZr5y)

209 Air conditioning could solve many of the problems coming from the middle east. Seriously, if you were sweating all day long with 20 of your "brothers" wouldn't you be pissed off too?

Posted by: NC Ref at July 27, 2015 12:30 AM (Myqtp)


That was Scott Adams' theory.

Posted by: pookysgirl drinks and walks like a sailor at July 27, 2015 12:54 AM (IJeUX)

210 187 Posted by : Dave M

I see Dave took that advice to heart from a few days ago and has actually contributed to the conversation.

That's how it is done, me lad.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 27, 2015 12:54 AM (oAsiA)

211 209 Air conditioning could solve many of the problems coming from the middle east. Seriously, if you were sweating all day long with 20 of your "brothers" wouldn't you be pissed off too?

--------

Hmm. This makes perfect sense.

World peace comes down to job programs and air conditioning...

Posted by: Marie Harf at July 27, 2015 12:56 AM (oZr5y)

212 Anyone here want to try guest posting on my blog some time?
Posted by: Dave M at July 27, 2015 12:37 AM (eKJf5)

***

Since you only show up once a day to pimp your blog, I'll pass, with extreme prejudice.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 27, 2015 12:56 AM (cygkw)

213 204 >> hey what happened to the early morning Dave thread?

I kinda wondered about that myself, chemjeff. If I had to speculate, I'd guess that someone took offense at weirddave taking verbal shots at Rick Wilson; Ace quotes him from time to time.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 27, 2015 12:58 AM (oAsiA)

214
Jim - aye aye, sir, will do, and thanks! Hadn't kept up, didn't know the LCR came in .327. That is exactly the lightweight version I was thinking of. Of course if I get it, I'll have to add more dies for the press. And having shot one cylinder (one) of standard factory .38 in an LCR, wonder if I could find the sweet spot of acceptable recoil (for her) and useful ballistics.

Cicero, bought my 1911 from a guy who was swapping it out for one in 38 Super. What is the appeal/advantage of 38 super in the 1911? I definitely have a hankering for a 1911 in 9mm, due to the weight and presumed stability this combo delivers.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 27, 2015 12:58 AM (QDnY+)

215 Oklahoma onion burgers about to go in the frying pan - anybody hungry?

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 12:58 AM (ncdr/)

216
Gotta step away for a bit. Will check back later to see what new gun knowledge has been imparted, and for the latest speculation on WeirdDave's Disappeared Thread, now of legend.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 27, 2015 12:59 AM (QDnY+)

217 215 Two please

Posted by: MAx at July 27, 2015 12:59 AM (LAliD)

218 I see Dave took that advice to heart from a few days ago and has actually contributed to the conversation.

That's how it is done, me lad.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 27, 2015 12:54 AM (oAsiA)


Well, it's pretty much a pro-forma contribution, though. He never stays to engage in any conversation or debate at. Just a drive-by quip, and the mandatory-obligatory blog pimpage.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2015 01:00 AM (DAtNG)

219
214 38 Super will go through the door of an old car.
It's what they got Dillinger with.

Posted by: MAx at July 27, 2015 01:00 AM (LAliD)

220 38 Super is basically the equivalent of 9mm +P

Posted by: MAx at July 27, 2015 01:01 AM (LAliD)

221 215 Shall I bring the cheddar, or what do you prefer???

Posted by: MAx at July 27, 2015 01:02 AM (LAliD)

222 The blog's contract clearly states there will be no male nudity without a corresponding female photo. I'll be calling my lawyer in the morning.

Posted by: Old Hob at July 27, 2015 01:02 AM (Z+7WE)

223 Since you only show up once a day to pimp your blog, I'll pass, with extreme prejudice.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty
------------------------------
AOP & I talked about this recently. At least he's up to one sentence of "chat" before he whores his blog out.
Given enough time, he may form a coherent thought & actually interact with others?

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 01:03 AM (JYMMv)

224 When you multiply the increased velocity of the 9 and its smaller size and compare it to the slower but bigger .45 in HP it's pretty much a wash.

Posted by: MAx at July 27, 2015 01:03 AM (LAliD)

225 American cheese only, MAx. That's what I've been told.

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 01:05 AM (lmHwU)

226 Prob they were having with 9mm ball was it just went through w/o shedding its energy in da flesh

Posted by: MAx at July 27, 2015 01:05 AM (LAliD)

227 38 Super will go through the door of an old car.
It's what they got Dillinger with.

Posted by: MAx at July 27, 2015 01:00 AM (LAliD)


Shit. I can go through the door of an old car, if I open it first.


I had a '29 DeSoto "doctor's coupe" here for a while. The metal of the doors was so thin, you could darn near read a newspaper through it. And that was not rusty metal, either.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2015 01:05 AM (DAtNG)

228
225 AAaaaaaagh that's what makes the double-double suck.
Oh well if you like it that's all that matters

Posted by: MAx at July 27, 2015 01:06 AM (LAliD)

229 Rhomboid, that's the quandary. By time you go Scandium in a S&W, or .327 in an LCR, you're into some very nasty recoil for properly effective rounds.

My suggestion? Get a Taurus 85 Lightweight in the 3" bbl., fixed sight, and have a trusted gunsmith true-up the action. Then have him install a tritrium front sight, and a corresponding "Novak" style rear sight. There's one out there for small frame revolvers, but I don't recall the maker, offhand.

She can shoot 148 gr. .38 spl wadcutters for practice, and they're actually effective defense rounds at close range.

Then, some good .38+P rounds for carry/defense. 125 TXPs work wonders.

And if the .38 is still too much for her? Go to .22 Magnum. Nearly the same energy transfer, but much easier to shoot.

In any case, go with the 3" bbl if you go with a revolver. Just. Works. Better.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 27, 2015 01:06 AM (RzZOc)

230 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2015 01:00 AM (DAtNG)

What you said is true. But I'm trying to encourage the lad; maybe he has something interesting to say. But I'll never know if he doesn't say it here first.

*hint hint to Dave M*

But yeah, to date, he's mostly low grade spam.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 27, 2015 01:06 AM (oAsiA)

231 >>>hi all
hey what happened to the early morning Dave thread?


Posted by: chemjeff @ Houston at July 27, 2015 12:51 AM (4wasR)<<<

Also lost in a tragic canoe accident.

Posted by: a tipsy canoe and a Moron too at July 27, 2015 01:07 AM (b8RK4)

232 Oklahoma onion burgers about to go in the frying pan - anybody hungry?

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 12:58 AM (ncdr/)


I initially read that as "Oklahoma onion burglars" and tbought, "Gee, that seems a bit harsh, but I guess Oklahoma takes vegetable robbery seriously."

Posted by: pookysgirl drinks and walks like a sailor at July 27, 2015 01:09 AM (IJeUX)

233 When you multiply the increased velocity of the 9 and its smaller size and compare it to the slower but bigger .45 in HP it's pretty much a wash.

Posted by: MAx at July 27, 2015 01:03 AM (LAliD)


Is there any data/research that looks at impact energy vs cross-sectional area of the projectile? Seems to me there might be a "sweet spot" to maximize tissue damage to the unlucky recipient of said projectile.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2015 01:09 AM (DAtNG)

234
233 Mostly ballistic gelatin testing I believe
Try The Box O' Truth

Posted by: MAx at July 27, 2015 01:11 AM (LAliD)

235 What you said is true. But I'm trying to encourage the lad; maybe he has something interesting to say. But I'll never know if he doesn't say it here first.

*hint hint to Dave M*

But yeah, to date, he's mostly low grade spam.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 27, 2015 01:06 AM (oAsiA)


I know, and I agree, but he seems to be a slow learner. I mean if he is an actual person, and not a 'bot, can he not take a hint?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2015 01:12 AM (DAtNG)

236 AOP & I talked about this recently. At least he's up to one sentence of "chat" before he whores his blog out.
Given enough time, he may form a coherent thought & actually interact with others?
Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 01:03 AM (JYMMv)

****

He is inverting the process.

Usually, you get to know folks, and then you begin to pimp your blog. A time consuming process, surely, but a payoff in the long run. See "The Political Hat".

I see no reason to try and draw him out. A presumable Adult is aware that they can post, or not. Screw that.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 27, 2015 01:13 AM (1eYr7)

237 You know who should start a blog? Allen G.

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 01:14 AM (FERDF)

238 236 P-Hat has a blog???

Posted by: MAx at July 27, 2015 01:14 AM (LAliD)

239 plate o shrimp

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 27, 2015 01:15 AM (TF10X)

240 Mostly ballistic gelatin testing I believe
Try The Box O' Truth

Posted by: MAx at July 27, 2015 01:11 AM (LAliD)


Yeah, I have seen some of those videos. Very interesting. I guess what I was driving at, is there a recognized metric for relating impact energy to projectile cross-sectional area to get a proxy for expected depth of penetration?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2015 01:16 AM (DAtNG)

241 237 You know who should start a blog? Allen G.

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 01:14 AM (FERDF)


He should also think about writing a book.

Posted by: buzzion at July 27, 2015 01:16 AM (zt+N6)

242 Gddamn nevrvous nelly still.

A friend was started choking last Friday. Another friend wasn't entirely sure but rushed in and did their best Heimy.

The OG coughed up enough to start breathing normally, but scared the shit out of everyone.

I really should take that Red Cross course.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 27, 2015 01:16 AM (VY8H5)

243 Well, what about the delta-V on the muzzle velocity of the Johnson rods?

Man, it's late, and I'm usually doing this from a phone lately.

Posted by: Dave M at July 27, 2015 01:16 AM (eKJf5)

244 238 236 P-Hat has a blog???
Posted by: MAx at July 27, 2015 01:14 AM (LAliD)

***
I know, right?!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 27, 2015 01:17 AM (1eYr7)

245 I was one of the first blogs to link Ace of Spades, and I don't even whore my now moribund blog out, here.

Case in point. CBD ran my Memorial Day post, verbatim, from my blog. With no link, per my request. Direct copy n' paste, rather than re-direct.

Even were I to revive the site, I'd only ask a re-instruction from a few friends I've made while online. Otherwise.....just write, and earn it.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 27, 2015 01:18 AM (RzZOc)

246 THANKS for the naked gunner photo: WOW. Brave AND handsome. :-))))

As for Marion Zimmer Bradley, I'm shocked. Really enjoyed Mists of Avalon all those years ago, but I'm going to burn my copy. Damn the bitch.

Posted by: Beverly at July 27, 2015 01:19 AM (Yx4km)

247 Well, what about the delta-V on the muzzle velocity of the Johnson rods?

Man, it's late, and I'm usually doing this from a phone lately.

Posted by: Dave M at July 27, 2015 01:16 AM (eKJf5)


Well, unless you factor in the angular momentum of the Pelton wheel on the giggling pin, and the coupling to the duck's paddle, it's all for naught, anyway.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2015 01:19 AM (DAtNG)

248
Here's a better question: Nutnfancy or Hickock45???
A: Nutnfancy

Posted by: MAx at July 27, 2015 01:22 AM (LAliD)

249 Goddammit Hickok45

Posted by: MAx at July 27, 2015 01:24 AM (LAliD)

250 Well, what about the delta-V on the muzzle velocity of the Johnson rods?

Man, it's late, and I'm usually doing this from a phone lately.

Posted by: Dave M at July 27, 2015 01:16 AM (eKJf5)

***

One and done blog pimping must be exhausting...somehow. Sleep well.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 27, 2015 01:24 AM (2z4UX)

251 Re the naked gunner: the attached story is worth reading.

The plane he was gunner in spotted a Marine pilot who'd been shot down and was badly burned and blinded by spilled fuel. Japs were shooting at him from shore. When our guys' plane showed up, the Japs started shooting at them, too. In the midst of this hail of gunfire, our hero stripped and jumped into the water to save the Marine's life. The photo was taken after he'd climbed back aboard, not stopping to put on clothes because they were under fire and his first thought was FIRING BACK.

Whatta man. (and, may I say, whatta butt!)

Posted by: Beverly at July 27, 2015 01:25 AM (Yx4km)

252 I just checked and Amazon still carries Blazing Saddles. I ordered the Blu Ray before they get another wild hair up their collective asses.

Posted by: Hank at July 27, 2015 01:27 AM (LpJen)

253 Handsome face, too. (Into the Dreamboat File he goes!)

Posted by: Beverly at July 27, 2015 01:28 AM (Yx4km)

254 name check

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 27, 2015 01:29 AM (cygkw)

255 Regarding the LGBT conference in Iowa organized by Iowa Safe Schools...

Shouldn't be shocking at all. Anyone remember the "Safe Schools Czar" Kevin Jennings who was pushing this very thing all across the country? Remember "Fistgate"?

Kevin Jennings may have been fired, but obviously the message of sexualizing children remains in schools across the nation. And has now gotten a rubber stamp from SCOTUS with the same-sex marriage ruling. Nothing is taboo anymore. That is the goal of the LGBT movement. And if anyone disagrees, they will be labeled bigots and phobics.

This is only going to get worse if people en masse don't stand up to this madness.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 27, 2015 01:29 AM (7A4qQ)

256 Nothing is taboo anymore. That is the goal of the
LGBT movement. And if anyone disagrees, they will be labeled bigots and
phobics.


This is only going to get worse if people en masse don't stand up to this madness.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 27, 2015 01:29 AM (7A4qQ)


Now-a-days the only taboo is to have taboo...

Posted by: The Taboo Hat at July 27, 2015 01:31 AM (/YkzI)

257 Handsome face, too. (Into the Dreamboat File he goes!)

Posted by: Beverly at July 27, 2015 01:28 AM (Yx4km)


Somebody must know who that guy was. If not the photographer, perhaps another crew member of the PBY, or family of the guy himself. Could be that he was kind of ashamed at being photographed naked, but maybe let on to friends and family, "yeah, that was me, and there was a reason for it."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2015 01:33 AM (DAtNG)

258

AOP

I guess what I was driving at, is there a recognized metric for relating impact energy to projectile cross-sectional area to get a proxy for expected depth of penetration?


I'm not sure. I note that projectile node design seems to play a significant part. There's a French projectile design from the mid-80's (if not earlier), the THV, that seems to be quite destructive.

The projectile is brass, instead of lead, so it's about half the weight of a usual load and therefore much faster, and has a roughly a reverse-ogive design.

The pictures I saw in the International Defense Review writeup showed a .357 projectile (6" revolver, 45gr, 2500fps)in ballistic gel ... the exit hole diameter was about 3".

Posted by: Arbalest at July 27, 2015 01:35 AM (FlRtG)

259
258 Hrrrm they're getting 2500 fps out of a pistol?

Posted by: MAx at July 27, 2015 01:38 AM (LAliD)

260 ok time to shove off to bed I think
good night all, be safe

Posted by: chemjeff @ Houston at July 27, 2015 01:43 AM (4wasR)

261

They're getting 2500 fps out of a pistol?


.357 projectile (6" revolver, 45grains, 2500fps)

Posted by: Arbalest at July 27, 2015 01:43 AM (FlRtG)

262 'Lo, 'rons.....just got back from taking some of the fiancee's relations to Beach Blanket Babylon. That'll teach 'em.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 27, 2015 01:43 AM (EzgxV)

263 109 True story: It's been quite a while since we tried,
but it used to be that we could get KMOX on the car radio here in
Central Texas. That was fun.

Posted by: Elisabeth G. Wolfe at July 26, 2015 11:50 PM (iuQS7)


Up in Canada, we used to get AM stations in Oklahoma.
Posted by: Vendette at July 26, 2015 11:51 PM (TEpA2)


Way back when, there were a bunch of 50000 watt "clear-channel" AM stations. WLW, WGN, WSM, WBT, WABC, WSB, WJR and a about 25 or so more. No one else had their frequency at night, and a lot of them went coast to coast. They tended to be very profitable because of that signal, so they usually carried the local baseball teams' games, which in turn made them even more profitable.

Sad thing is that back in the 70's, those stations quit worrying about being regional/national stations and began focusing on just their own markets. Because of that, they didn't need to keep their signals going big, and the areas that they had their antennas became prime real estate, they neglected the ground array of their antenna systems, and now they don't have the same reach as they used to.

I do miss sitting out and listening to some of those stations.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at July 27, 2015 01:46 AM (Z7G74)

264 .357 projectile (6" revolver, 45grains, 2500fps)

Posted by: Arbalest at July 27, 2015 01:43 AM (FlRtG)


What would a brass slug do the rifling of the barrel? I know brass is softer than steel, but also much harder than lead. Would it be soft enough to engage the rifling in the barrel? Perhaps a brass slug with a thick plating of lead?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2015 01:47 AM (DAtNG)

265 Way back when, there were a bunch of 50000 watt "clear-channel" AM stations. WLW, WGN, WSM, WBT, WABC, WSB, WJR and a about 25 or so more. No one else had their frequency at night, and a lot of them went coast to coast. They tended to be very profitable because of that signal, so they usually carried the local baseball teams' games, which in turn made them even more profitable.


I think WLW still broadcasts at 50,000. They at one time did 500,000

Posted by: buzzion at July 27, 2015 01:50 AM (zt+N6)

266

AOP:

Details of the Tres Haute Vitesse:

http://www.quarryhs.co.uk/THV.htm


(I think Anna does not know of this site. Don't tell)

Posted by: Arbalest at July 27, 2015 01:51 AM (FlRtG)

267 257 Since the photographer was one of Steichen's I suppose one could investigate his war photo collection, if there is one, which I suspect there might be. That said, as you noted, some things are best left as they are for reasons unknown to us. Heck of a picture though and great story.

Posted by: gracepc at July 27, 2015 01:53 AM (DMQhB)

268 I do miss sitting out and listening to some of those stations.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at July 27, 2015 01:46 AM (Z7G74)


As a teenager back in the '60's I used to listen to DX a lot on short wave and medium wave. From Vancouver, B.C., I could reliably listen to WWL in New Orleans, and KSL in Salt Lake City, and another station in Texas, whose call letters I don't recall. I remember one time, sitting in my VW dune buggy on Long Beach, west coast of Vancouver Island (before they closed it to vehicles, the peckerheads) and picked up a station in Honduras on the tube-type Blaupunkt radio. Loud and clear.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2015 01:54 AM (DAtNG)

269 Weft cut-loop @242

A few years back, I used to go to the local dive bar every day after work to wind down.
one day, as I'm swapping stories with some random dude beside me, a guy at the end of the bar seized up & fell right out of his barstool like an anchor.
We jumped up & ran to start CPR, the bartender dialed 911 - like it was one fluid motion. He went away in the ambulance just fine.

The gal beside the guy sat there frozen in terror. Basically in shock.
I saw her a week or so later, and she was still crying about it. Turns out she was a registered nurse, and couldn't get over the fact that she froze. The only one in the building with proper training froze when the time came, and she couldn't sleep at night afterwards. ..

Take the class.

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 01:58 AM (FOwv0)

270 I used to tune in to Beaker Street radio, KAAY out of Little Rock AR, for their midnite broadcast of one entire rock album per night. Which I taped, of course, to a blank 8 track. circa 1973 or so.

Now git offen my lawn.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 27, 2015 02:05 AM (oAsiA)

271 WOAI in San Antonio. Still broadcasting on 1200 AM. Fifty k Clear Channel watts after dark.

To give you an idea of how much power that is, a simple CB radio, run through a 100 watt linear amplifier, will absolutely blanket any TV signal within about 200 ft. of the CB's antenna.

No matter what station your TV was tuned to, you would hear what the CB had to say, and not your Favorite Martian on the teevee.

Good thing the 50k Clear Channel signal was nowhere near the TV transmission bands in those days.

It's a good thing that high power AM radio gets transmitted from a unidirectional antenna. Focus that much power in one direction, and whatever it hits, is a microwave dinner.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 27, 2015 02:06 AM (RzZOc)

272 Lisl...what was India like/what'd you do? just curious.

Posted by: concrete girl at July 27, 2015 02:07 AM (ll1q6)

273 It's a good thing that high power AM radio gets
transmitted from a unidirectional antenna. Focus that much power in one
direction, and whatever it hits, is a microwave dinner.


Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 27, 2015 02:06 AM (RzZOc)


Word.

Posted by: Nikola Tesla at July 27, 2015 02:07 AM (/YkzI)

274 I am unable to further resist the call of the pillow.

I have crossed over the event horizon to sleep, and into it's black hole of slumber, my molecules stretch and atoms shred, to the night's oblivion, till morning.

Whereupon Blessed Coffee will, like a Star Trek transporter beam, reassemble my disparate bits into the resemblance of a coherent whole.

In other words, hasta la nite nite, Horde!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 27, 2015 02:15 AM (RzZOc)

275 Jean, they made an aftermarket kit so one could model in 1/32 scale a Spitfire with beer kegs under the wings. Picture of such a Spit is posted on that website with the P-38s*
http://preview.tinyurl.com/pz652va


*P-38s were used on D-Day as top cover for the invasion conveys because of their distinctive planform with twin tails. Trigger happy gunners might shoot at a Jug thinking 190 or a Mustang thinking ME-109. So the Forked-tail devils got the mission even though flying out of England the P-38s had weird technical issues not seen in other theaters, for example the turbochargers blowing up.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 27, 2015 02:20 AM (/eeUo)

276 Whoa! That's one hairy-assed gunner!

I might consider sending that fellow at least a pair of chaps, you know, the assless ones?

Posted by: tcn at July 27, 2015 02:21 AM (+YMhA)

277 Nice. Ass. I notice no one tried to claim theirs was better. Sometimes you guys are just no fun.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 27, 2015 02:21 AM (m0Zm3)

278 *bangs head into keyboard*

Up way too late.

Turbochargers were on the P-47's R-2800. Superchargers were used on the P-38's Allison V-1710s.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 27, 2015 02:24 AM (/eeUo)

279 276 I might consider sending that fellow at least a pair of chaps, you know, the assless ones?
Posted by: tcn at July 27, 2015 02:21 AM (+YMhA)

But then we couldn't enjoy his legs.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 27, 2015 02:28 AM (m0Zm3)

280 277
I would've claimed that, Bebe's, but I was genetically denied.
There is a long bloodline of flat backsides from which I hail.

I am told my ancestors invented that drug Noassatall.

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 02:31 AM (zTDoA)

281 What my sister calls smacked-in-the-ass-with-a-shovel-butt. Bummer.

That is one nice backside, I will say. I love a man in uniform, but apparently some are better once out of uniform.

Posted by: tcn at July 27, 2015 02:33 AM (+YMhA)

282 Occasional forays into food deprivation probably don't help. Back to eating normally, yet?

Posted by: cthulhu at July 27, 2015 02:34 AM (EzgxV)

283 Then there's the question of tan lines. I expect any number of ladies have enjoyed the view of his legs. Yes, I do.

Posted by: tcn at July 27, 2015 02:34 AM (+YMhA)

284 Cooth, see #215.

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 02:34 AM (1VFvU)

285 I thought girls weren't visually stimulated creatures?
Just one more myth proven wrong by the 'ettes, I guess...

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 02:37 AM (W3qAt)

286 I suppose next you'll tell me that all ladies aren't delicate little flowers.

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 02:39 AM (i7dZ9)

287 Nice. Ass. I notice no one tried to claim theirs was better. Sometimes you guys are just no fun.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 27, 2015 02:21 AM (m0Zm3)

**

I can tell you that I have been told that I have the rounded bubble butt ass of a Baseball player. That count?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 27, 2015 02:43 AM (2z4UX)

288 284 Cooth, see #215.

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 02:34 AM (1VFvU)



Leaves open the question as to whether that constitutes "eating normally'.... BTW, what are those?

Posted by: cthulhu at July 27, 2015 02:48 AM (EzgxV)

289 285 I thought girls weren't visually stimulated creatures?
Just one more myth proven wrong by the 'ettes, I guess...

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 02:37 AM (W3qAt)




They're not as visually stimulated, and not quite the same way. They're more willing to overlook a paunch if the guy looks like he's a defender / a provider / loyal / shrewd / aggressive. Guys are more willing to overlook a passive, demanding woman if she's got a nice pert rack and a tight ass. Again -- generalizations -- but it's not an either/or......it's how the tradeoffs are slanted.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 27, 2015 02:55 AM (EzgxV)

290 286 I suppose next you'll tell me that all ladies aren't delicate little flowers.

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 02:39 AM (i7dZ9)




*Attempts to position himself a safe distance away*

Posted by: cthulhu at July 27, 2015 02:56 AM (EzgxV)

291 285 I thought girls weren't visually stimulated creatures?
Just one more myth proven wrong by the 'ettes, I guess...
Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 02:37 AM (W3qAt)

Ummmm, I think that's more about what the visual is.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 27, 2015 02:59 AM (m0Zm3)

292 *peeks in*

*laughs at delicate flower comment*

*oogles gunner's ass...again*

*wanders off*

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 27, 2015 03:02 AM (gcV0z)

293 Oklahoma onion burgers? Awesomeness. That's what they are.

Basically just a pan fried burger with a shit ton of fried onions pressed into it. One big onion made me three burger patties. I could only eat two, though.
traditionally served with mustard & pickles only.

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 03:02 AM (hQhus)

294 Well that's interesting, once true detective was over & there was no more Taylor kitsch to ogle I can't keep my eyes open. Nite nite.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 27, 2015 03:07 AM (m0Zm3)

295 Night all.

Here is "Tornado of Souls" by Megadeth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcm9qqo_qB0

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 27, 2015 03:07 AM (/YkzI)

296 292 *peeks in*

*laughs at delicate flower comment*

*oogles gunner's ass...again*

*wanders off*

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 27, 2015 03:02 AM (gcV0z)



Whew!

Posted by: cthulhu at July 27, 2015 03:07 AM (EzgxV)

297 286 I suppose next you'll tell me that all ladies aren't delicate little flowers.
Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 02:39 AM (i7dZ9)

Oh, sweetie, we ARE delicate little flowers. That's why they invented holsters that fit in brassieres. Delicate is cancelled by fire power. And stompy boots, to take care of the rest.

Posted by: tcn at July 27, 2015 03:08 AM (+YMhA)

298 Think of a White Castle burger. They got famous stealing the idea of the onion burger.


Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 03:08 AM (hQhus)

299 293 Oklahoma onion burgers? Awesomeness. That's what they are.

Basically just a pan fried burger with a shit ton of fried onions pressed into it. One big onion made me three burger patties. I could only eat two, though.
traditionally served with mustard & pickles only.

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 03:02 AM (hQhus)



Pressed in before or after cooking? How sliced? Are the onions fried before, after, or during? What does Oklahoma have to do with it?

Posted by: cthulhu at July 27, 2015 03:10 AM (EzgxV)

300 G'night Bebe's. Be well.

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 03:11 AM (hQhus)

301 They got famous stealing the idea of the onion burger.
Posted by: Chi


Or steaming meat like Arby's, the oubliette of fast food.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 27, 2015 03:12 AM (VY8H5)

302 298 Think of a White Castle burger. They got famous stealing the idea of the onion burger.


Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 03:08 AM (hQhus)




White Castle's website says that there are only five places to get them in all of California -- coincidentally, all located nearby. Two are 7-11's, one's a Save-Mart, one's a Walgreens, and one's a Rite-Aid. How am I supposed to know a White Castle from a Hot Rock?




Posted by: cthulhu at July 27, 2015 03:16 AM (EzgxV)

303 301 They got famous stealing the idea of the onion burger.
Posted by: Chi

Or steaming meat like Arby's, the oubliette of fast food.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 27, 2015 03:12 AM (VY8H5)



There are two fast-food outlets that I associate with massive (repeated) food-poisoning attacks: Arby's and Der Wienerschnitzel. I just can't set foot in one without flashbacks to calling the dinosaurs....

Posted by: cthulhu at July 27, 2015 03:19 AM (EzgxV)

304 You know a White Castle by the students inside eating sliders and drinking coffee at 2:00 a.m., and the by the druggies passed out outside on the curb. At least, that's how I knew them in St. Louis in the '80's.

Posted by: tcn at July 27, 2015 03:21 AM (+YMhA)

305 From what I gather, the onion burger was invented by a diner owner in Oklahoma during the depression.
To stretch a dime, and to give his customers more to eat, he loaded up a burger with a LOT of onion.
Basically, put a crapton of finely sliced onions on the flat top to grill. Press a patty (or press a ball of meat until it becomes a patty) firmly into the cooking onions. Grill that side to a nice crust.
Flip burger & onions as one unit. Get crust on that side. Slap entire assembly on a toasted bun with onions & pickles. Enjoy.
Repeat as needed.

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 03:26 AM (hQhus)

306 302
That ain't White Castle. That is a box of frozen cardboard with a WC logo on the box. I can get those in the freezer section of Food Lion.

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 03:28 AM (hQhus)

307 Found it!
Every time "assless chaps" comes up here, I think of this scene:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TR9ClG9j6fs

Yes, I am immature and easily entertained.

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 03:31 AM (hQhus)

308 305 From what I gather, the onion burger was invented by a diner owner in Oklahoma during the depression.
To stretch a dime, and to give his customers more to eat, he loaded up a burger with a LOT of onion.
Basically, put a crapton of finely sliced onions on the flat top to grill. Press a patty (or press a ball of meat until it becomes a patty) firmly into the cooking onions. Grill that side to a nice crust.
Flip burger & onions as one unit. Get crust on that side. Slap entire assembly on a toasted bun with onions & pickles. Enjoy.
Repeat as needed.

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 03:26 AM (hQhus)



Got it. Sounds good. How did it get attached to Oklahoma and why doesn't it get mustard? (probably best applied to "top" before flipping).

Posted by: cthulhu at July 27, 2015 03:32 AM (EzgxV)

309 Oops. The toasted bun gets the mustard & pickles. Not more onions.

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 03:35 AM (hQhus)

310 306 302
That ain't White Castle. That is a box of frozen cardboard with a WC logo on the box. I can get those in the freezer section of Food Lion.

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 03:28 AM (hQhus)



They're on the White Castle website. There some boxed frozen crap with a White Castle logo sold at my local Lucky's that didn't make the cut. I believe those five outlets are paying licensing fees and are purporting to put out the right stuff. Mind you, I'm not going there.....

Posted by: cthulhu at July 27, 2015 03:35 AM (EzgxV)

311 You cannot appreciate the true ambiance of White Castle without first driving to the seedier parts of University City or downtown St. Louis, what with the dregs of humanity washing up upon the doors and windows while you try to choke down a slider. Really, it is an experience more than food.

Posted by: tcn at July 27, 2015 03:40 AM (+YMhA)

312 308 305 From what I gather, the onion burger was invented by a diner owner in Oklahoma during the depression.
To stretch a dime, and to give his customers more to eat, he loaded up a burger with a LOT of onion.
Basically, put a crapton of finely sliced onions on the flat top to grill. Press a patty (or press a ball of meat until it becomes a patty) firmly into the cooking onions. Grill that side to a nice crust.
Flip burger & onions as one unit. Get crust on that side. Slap entire assembly on a toasted bun with onions & pickles. Enjoy.
Repeat as needed.

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 03:26 AM (hQhus)



Got it. Sounds good. How did it get attached to Oklahoma and why doesn't it get mustard? (probably best applied to "top" before flipping).

Posted by: cthulhu at July 27, 2015 03:32 AM (EzgxV)




Sorry, missed the Oklahoma reference at first reading.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 27, 2015 03:46 AM (EzgxV)

313 I sure hope that young man got home and got laid, and that he lived a long and prosperous life, knowing that he had done a really good thing, naked.

Posted by: goon at July 27, 2015 03:49 AM (gy5kE)

314 Which is better, regular or newfangled sweet onions? Asking for an alternate personality.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at July 27, 2015 03:50 AM (uPxUo)

315 I like the Mayan Sweets myself, but it may be that my Mayan son is influencing that decision. Most sweet onions are sugary enough to make you a little sick if you use too many, but I have found that if you put them with the really smoky bacon, all is forgiven.

Posted by: tcn at July 27, 2015 03:53 AM (+YMhA)

316 315 I like the Mayan Sweets myself, but it may be that my Mayan son is influencing that decision. Most sweet onions are sugary enough to make you a little sick if you use too many, but I have found that if you put them with the really smoky bacon, all is forgiven.

Posted by: tcn at July 27, 2015 03:53 AM (+YMhA)



Where are you all buying your onions -- we have white, red, yellow, Walla-walla, Vidalia, and Maui onions.....but I've never heard of Mayan.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 27, 2015 03:56 AM (EzgxV)

317 I get 'em at Carrs (Anchorage, probably a bit of a drive for you) but also at Costco in the huge bags. It's dry enough here for them to last. I would never have bought so many in Wisconsin when I lived there--couldn't keep them from sprouting.

Posted by: tcn at July 27, 2015 03:57 AM (+YMhA)

318 Oh, I saw them last week at Fred Meyer, if you have those any where near. Mostly a west coast deal, I believe.

Posted by: tcn at July 27, 2015 03:58 AM (+YMhA)

319 315
Sweet onions are good for grilling. Never mixed them with bacon. Kinda reminds me of German Potato Salad. Guess I'll try that next time.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at July 27, 2015 04:02 AM (uPxUo)

320 ou know a White Castle by the students inside eating sliders and drinking coffee at 2:00 a.m., and the by the druggies passed out outside on the curb. At least, that's how I knew them in St. Louis in the '80's.
Posted by: tcn at July 27, 2015 03:21 AM (+YMhA)


Nougles & Ted Drew's. FTW!!!!

Posted by: Adriane the St. Louis Critic ... at July 27, 2015 04:04 AM (qOsoH)

321 Okay, take a pile of potatoes, slice 'em very thin, layer them up with chopped sweet onions, crumbled cooked bacon, a bit of cheddar cheese in every layer. Pour a little milk with a bit of flour, salt and pepper mixed in over the whole mess, cover it, and cook it for about two hours or a little more. You can also put a couple of lightly browned pork chops on top of the pile before cooking.

Dinner, tomorrows lunch, etc.

Guaran-damn-teed to get the husband home in time for dinner.

Posted by: tcn at July 27, 2015 04:05 AM (+YMhA)

322 318 Oh, I saw them last week at Fred Meyer, if you have those any where near. Mostly a west coast deal, I believe.

Posted by: tcn at July 27, 2015 03:58 AM (+YMhA)



It looks like Fred Meyer are Quik Stop here.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 27, 2015 04:05 AM (EzgxV)

323 What's everyone listening to? Ive been going through different stuff today, ended up on Keb Mo. Then I found this:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3GphQN1-nW4

Apparently, that little waif was discovered on one of those TV talent shorw. Girl got pipes.

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 04:08 AM (J9yWP)

324 Nougles & Ted Drew's. FTW!!!!
Posted by: Adriane the St. Louis Critic ... at July 27, 2015 04:04 AM (qOsoH)

Amighettis Specials and Milo's Wall, FTW!!

Naugles was an easy walk at midnight, and we walked through the drive thru more than once....

Posted by: tcn at July 27, 2015 04:10 AM (+YMhA)

325 321 Okay, take a pile of potatoes, slice 'em very thin, layer them up with chopped sweet onions, crumbled cooked bacon, a bit of cheddar cheese in every layer. Pour a little milk with a bit of flour, salt and pepper mixed in over the whole mess, cover it, and cook it for about two hours or a little more. You can also put a couple of lightly browned pork chops on top of the pile before cooking.

Dinner, tomorrows lunch, etc.

Guaran-damn-teed to get the husband home in time for dinner.

Posted by: tcn at July 27, 2015 04:05 AM (+YMhA)



It gets better if you include a bunch of purple and Yukon Gold potatoes, use scallions and garlic amongst the sweet onions, change up the cheese, and add herbs such as savory and parsley with the dairy, which can be expanded to include cream, half-n-half, or butter.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 27, 2015 04:12 AM (EzgxV)

326 which can be expanded to include cream, half-n-half, or butter.
Posted by: cthulhu at July 27, 2015 04:12 AM (EzgxV)

Now, don't go all gourmet on me here. I'm talking super easy, even a guy just out of college can do this type of meal. Think Joy of Cooking over Galloping Gourmet.

More beer than wine, if you will.

But yeah, you can scallop potatoes with all sorts of nonsense.

Try adding Penzey's Fox Point Seasoning. Yowza.

Posted by: tcn at July 27, 2015 04:14 AM (+YMhA)

327 What's the difference between scalloped potatoes & au gratin?
Fancy French words?

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 04:26 AM (W/b66)

328 327 What's the difference between scalloped potatoes & au gratin?
Fancy French words?

Posted by: Chi at July 27, 2015 04:26 AM (W/b66)




If I were to guess, I'd base it on how cheesy the results were.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 27, 2015 04:34 AM (EzgxV)

329 au gratin usually has a crust or some toasted breadcrumb kind of thingie & scalloped is usually, milk / cream & cheese ...

YMMV

Posted by: Adriane the Ethnic Cuisine Critic ... at July 27, 2015 04:35 AM (qOsoH)

330 Looks like a light night.
Good morning horde.

Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2015 04:35 AM (5AvFV)

331 Oy.

Roses are red.
But sometimes they're pink,
It is time to
Slink off to bed, I think ...

Posted by: Adriane the Ethnic Cuisine Critic ... at July 27, 2015 04:45 AM (qOsoH)

332 Naugles was an easy walk at midnight, and we walked through the drive thru more than once....

youth is wasted on the young ...
: -(

Posted by: Adriane the Ethnic Cuisine Critic ... at July 27, 2015 04:47 AM (qOsoH)

333 Their have been societies in the past that the gay lifestyle has been widely accepted. When that happens I'm guessing the accepted figure of 1 to 2% will soon be 4 to 5 %.

Posted by: Skip at July 27, 2015 04:59 AM (VvBHL)

334 I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that there are people who think that being gay is the 'normal' state of nature and heterosexuality is a construct forced on society.

Let's look at the animal kingdom. How many species of animals are there where gay sex is the norm?

Posted by: biancaneve at July 27, 2015 05:12 AM (kBiy2)

335 334
<snips>


Let's look at the animal kingdom. How many species of animals are there where gay sex is the norm?

Posted by: biancaneve

None, they all went extinct.

Posted by: Gmac - 'all politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at July 27, 2015 05:20 AM (4pjhs)

336 Ezzackly!!

Posted by: biancaneve at July 27, 2015 05:36 AM (kBiy2)

337 My theory on Northerners and being moral busybodies...

They have to stay active in order to beat the cold.

We Southerners? It really has to be something to get us out of our chairs, because it's too bloody hot to get all sweaty about something stupid.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 27, 2015 05:54 AM (J+mig)

338 The only reason I'll get out in this heat is to either water my garden, cut the grass or work on my shop's side roof project so I can make room in the shop.

I will not break a sweat to see what anyone else is doing nor will I complain about it if it doesn't affect me, none of my business.

Posted by: Gmac - 'all politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at July 27, 2015 06:09 AM (4pjhs)

339 As an Australian, I never got this air-conditioning thing. Sorry, we're trans-Pacific cousins, but we'll just have to agree to disagree about it. Heat is good. The hotter the better.

Posted by: bruce at July 27, 2015 06:22 AM (PgNoS)

340 339
As an Australian, I never got this air-conditioning thing. Sorry, we're
trans-Pacific cousins, but we'll just have to agree to disagree about
it. Heat is good. The hotter the better.

Posted by: bruce at July 27, 2015 06:22 AM (PgNoS)


As a former Floridian, I have to laugh. 100F with maximum humidity ain't nothing any reasonable person can take for very long. Sweating doesn't work the way it's supposed to in those conditions, you just get really wet and stay hot, since it can't evaporate. The only way to cool off is to go inside and either wait for your clothes to dry, or change.
It's actually hotter in Texas, gets up to 110 on occasion where I live, but it's a lot less miserable.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 27, 2015 06:27 AM (J+mig)

341 Baltimore weekend roundup...
Three dead
ten wounded
One stabbed to death.

Running it through the population corrector, Chicago would need

12 dead
43 wounded
4 stabbed to death

Actual Chicago performance?

7 dead
28 wounded
zero death by stabbing

Fighting above it's weight..
Baltimore wins again!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 27, 2015 06:27 AM (VPLuQ)

342 Oh good, a heat discussion.

Background:
Retired Machinist Mate

A good day at work starts at 100 degrees, and about 60% humidity.
Stationed in South Carolina, and Mayport Florida, it just gets worse.

Spent thirty years doing that kind of stuff.
Never was bothered by heat and humidity.

Transferred to Sasebo, in southern Japan, and also spent some time at Okinawa.

I thought I knew heat.
In the summertime, 90 degrees in Okinawa will flat knock your dick into the dirt faster then you can believe.
I never felt heat like that in my life.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 27, 2015 06:33 AM (VPLuQ)

343 Remember in the old days when Weird Dave threads wouldn't get pulled, and people would announce the morning threads arrival??




Good times..good times.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 27, 2015 06:35 AM (VPLuQ)

344 Le NOOD

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 27, 2015 06:35 AM (VPLuQ)

345 How many species of animals are there where gay sex is the norm?

Posted by: biancaneve at July 27, 2015 05:12 AM (kBiy2)

It's just a normal case of the Leftist mindset. Their philosophy begins with the rejection of the idea of objective truth, which leads to their complete ideological relativism. The world that exists only in their minds is a perfectly and unfailingly random world, but Western Civilization has still been on a winning streak since the Greeks learned to write. We're obviously dirty, horrible cheaters that should be punished. Everything we do, every underpinning of our culture is to be abhorred and replaced, no matter how repellant the alternative.

It's always Opposite Day to them. And if heterosexuality is the normal state of humanity, they'll pick every possible alternative at once, and try to push them all until one catches on. That it doesn't work in a reproductive sense, or pursues a vain object is immaterial to them. It's not how we do things, therefore it's been victimized by our constant success thus is owed its day in the sun. They're insane. Completely and utterly insane.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 27, 2015 06:35 AM (J+mig)

346 Those who complain most about air conditioning usually have air conditioned houses or don't live in the deep south.
We lived in the south for years with no A/C spent a lot of time at the lakes and streams or the stores that had A/C, the only other place was the movie theater which had A/C as their main selling point.

Posted by: obsidian at July 27, 2015 11:11 AM (ARK2U)

347 Legend has it that BMW North America marketing (sometime in the 80s) got
BMW to address their chronically inadequate AC by putting four German BMW engineers in a black on black BMW and requiring them to drive across south Texas in August.

Posted by: iowaan at July 27, 2015 01:37 PM (hXclJ)

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