So Here's What Gabe Was Talking About

I read Gabe's tweet, where he said something like, "all of a sudden so many suspicions of what's behind the anti-immigration push are suddenly confirmed."

Like many of you, I was annoyed at Gabe. I am frequently annoyed at Gabe. If I didn't like him so much, I'd hate Gabe.

But here's what Gabe was reacting to. I just got a facefull of this crap myself:

The word "#cuckservative" is being used as a banner-of-convenience by a conglomeration of several types of people, who range from what I'd call mere nativists to actual, hard-core, Nazi-flag-in-their-twitter profile white supremacists.

Now, some using this term "#cuckservative" assure me that not all of the people using the term are white supremacists. I believe them, on general heuristic principle: I mean, collecting under any flag will be a whole host of different people, with a wide range of motives, some of them unobjectionable, some of them erroneous but not what you'd call condemnable, and some simply odious.

The claims range from "we shouldn't give in to any claims of racism" to "racism is actually a positive and natural social good."

So I'm not going to say that everyone using the term "#cuckservative" is a white supremacist. In fact, when I first saw it yesterday, I assumed it was a reference to the McConnell/Boehner wing of corporate cuckolds.

In fact, many people might think it means just that -- and for them, it does. If that's what you think it means, that's what it means, for you.

However, it's an objective fact that many using the term, and stinging social media like race-warring hornets, are indeed out and proud white supremacists, or at least the sorts of person who casually uses the word "muds" (as in "I'm not going to stand by and see my country polluted by muds" -- that sort of thing) in the belief that this is a socially-acceptable shorthand for "anyone who isn't a Scots-Irish-or-Germanic white person."

So what Gabe was complaining about, so you know the context, is that these people have not only come out of the closets, but they have come out of the closets in force -- that is, they are really swarming Twitter.

I don't know how many there are -- someone told me he'd blocked a bunch -- but they are, as, ahem, racially-conscious folk tend to be, highly energetic about their views.

Now, again, I don't want to claim that this is all people using the term, nor do I want to claim that the fact that the immigration-restrictionist camp has some actual out-and-proud Nazi-flag-displaying white supremacists among them, discredits that political idea. (Though, gotta admit, I feel a lot dirtier about being an immigration-restrictionist now than I did an hour ago.)

The truth is, there are always racists in the movement, or, not even in the movement, actually, as they tend to be outside of the movement, but there are racists adjacent to the movement, always hoping and pushing the conservative movement to become what they think it really should be, a champion of the White Race and Protector of Peoples of European Descent, or whatever they're calling it this week.

This no more discredits immigration-restrictionism than it does conservatism or Republicanism as a whole; there are no liberals, for example, who would claim that the Democrat party or liberalism is discredited by the loathsome people adjacent to that party or that movement -- Maoists, unrepentant bombers, terrorists, Black Panther cop killers, communists, etc.

They would say "they are fringe; they're not us."

And I say: "Yes, that's what I say too, and yet you don't seem to credit me when I say it."

One part of politics -- the stupidest part of politics, that part most favored by our insipid, soap-commercial media "news" -- consists of forever attempting to discredit an idea or policy not by an actual intellectual, evidentiary case made against that idea or policy, but of simple smear-tactic guilty-by-association nonsense. "Dylann Roof maybe was sort of conservative, so Reagan was wrong!"

Of course we do this on the right, too. Bill Ayers does not prove that socialism is wrong. (It does prove that Obama is a hard radical, and that murder is considered chic among the high sectors of the moronic "intellectual" left.)

It's a stupid form of argumentation, it's base, and it's ineffably tribal, and I don't like when it's done to me, and while I do it to others, I do it far less frequently now, and... well, at least I feel bad about it.

One can never stop sinning, I don't think (at least my more religious correspondents tell me so). I think the most one can do is to limit one's transgressions, and make a sort of penance, whether of the traditionally spiritual sort of even a non-traditionally spiritual sort (I'm attempting a sort of penance-by-honesty-and-good-behavior, a secular notion but who knows, maybe there's something to it; we'll see. (I know that Saves me not at all.))

So I won't beat up on these guys too much, nor brand the less-racist ones of them with the sins of the more-racist ones.

And I hope, meanwhile, that no one will be too quick to brand me with the sins of the Dude With the Nazi Flag, or the Other Dude With The Mixed Nazi and Confederate Flags.

And I hope Gabe won't think I'm a racist.

And, while we're on that subject, I hope you'll take my word for it and give Gabe a break on that Tweet: I swear to you upon a stack of... what does an agnostic swear upon? ... a stack of Declaration of Independences that man, when you get a sudden barrage of improved-cylinder 10-guage white supremacist shot right in your face, you kind of notice it, and you kind of have to say something about it.

Like I'm doing now.

All I can say is:

1, Holy Shit,

2, I did not know there were so many white supremacists (though, I have to say, of course, there were only about six buzzing at my face, but it's more I've ever seen at the same time),

and 3, while I have of course known there were racists in, or adjacent to, the conservative movement forever, and have really not denied this (I tend to instead point out, for the sake of context, all those xenophobic bitter clingers in the Democrat Party that so bothered our Lord King Barack Obama in his Glorious Ascent), I am right now thinking that there are more white supremacists than I previously acknowledged, and am currently up in the air as to whether to dismiss this solely as a fringe-of-the-fringe phenomenon.

So that's what Gabe was reacting to. As I commented on Twitter: I think this is the ugliest development I've seen online.

It came out of nowhere and it came all at once, and when it came, there was no ignoring it, and certainly there was no denying it.

I was saying: It's as if, on the heels of last month's raacial shooting, someone gave the GO code: Now we show our hand.

What makes it really annoying is that the Social Race Warriors are using many tactics of the Social Justice Warriors -- swarming, attempting to pressure by dogpiling, argument-by-insult, etc.

It's like a Reeces Peanut Butter cup of awfulness. "You got your Social Justice Warrior mob tactics in my Racial Purity!"

It really is something. Expect to see some coverage of this by the liberal press in the coming days. They have made their presence known, for good or for ill.*

* I allow this may be "for good" because I've come to believe that debates, even ones involving ugly things, should not be covered up, but should actually be had out; so while some may fret that these people will discredit us, I look on the bright side: All things are made cleaner and healthier with sunlight.

A covert white supremacy movement is not, it seems to me, obviously better than an overt one.

Truth is better than falsehood, and a lie unconfronted is a lie encouraged to spread.

Corrected: I'm told that I'm simply wrong in my hunch about the Louisiana shooter being race-motivated so I've deleted a suggestion that he was so motivated.

Posted by: Ace at 05:26 PM

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Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 24, 2015 05:27 PM (xSCb6)

2 Let us see how folks make use of this thing.

Posted by: eman at July 24, 2015 05:30 PM (K4YY+)

3 Sorry, not buying it. Gabe gotta be Gabe.

Posted by: nip at July 24, 2015 05:31 PM (a6Odp)

4 Lol You'll excuse me while I ignore this.

Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at July 24, 2015 05:31 PM (VNgld)

5 Twitter delenda est

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 05:31 PM (XYw4l)

6 So the movie was good yes?

Posted by: Phil Hartmark at July 24, 2015 05:32 PM (fLKzW)

7 Venn diagrams can be used many ways.

Posted by: eman at July 24, 2015 05:32 PM (K4YY+)

8 Racism is like lying.

It's always bad when others do it.

Me? I'm fucking perfect.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2015 05:32 PM (VY8H5)

9 140 characters < > deep thoughts

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 05:33 PM (XYw4l)

10 Speaking of "cuckservative":

While I am generally opposed to "pan-Asian fusion" cuisine, which makes no sense, I just threw together the most FABULOUS pan-Aisan meal I've ever eaten.

Mostly it was because I had a lot of random stuff lying around, but what I did was throw together

Pancit noodles (Philippines)
Kim chi (Korea)
Japanese mushrooms (Japan)
pea pods (China)
Soy Sauce (China)
tofu (everywhere)
and the coup de grace, onion sprouts (??? Hipsterland)

Man, this is restaurant-worthy.

OK, OK, it had nothing to do with "cuckservatives." But it was delicious!

Posted by: zombie at July 24, 2015 05:33 PM (jBuUi)

11 I'm fairly certain that Twitter is not a very accurate representation of any social movement.

Wasn't it recently demonstrated how a handful of activists were able to use the tech savvy to greatly amplify their online presence?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 24, 2015 05:33 PM (xSCb6)

12 I'll let all y'all fuss and fret about this nontroversy. Spats between the Nattering Nabobs of teh Interwebz don't much interest me, and you lost me as soon as the names "Matt Lewis" and "Erik Erickson" came up.

I'm sure there's some Secret Meaning to all this, but I'm more worried about stuff that's happening out in the world. Iran, Jonathan Pollard, trivial stuff.

No doubt this means a lot to some. I'm not one of those people.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 24, 2015 05:33 PM (rCmeG)

13 Anyone for a game of chess?

Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at July 24, 2015 05:33 PM (Gcu5R)

14 Twitter delenda est

while singing willow, twit willow, twit willow ...

Posted by: Adriane the Musical Critic ... at July 24, 2015 05:33 PM (qOsoH)

15 Twitter delenda est

How do I say "I agree" in Roman?

Posted by: eleven at July 24, 2015 05:33 PM (MDgS8)

16 ***"I just threw together the most FABULOUS pan-Aisan meal...

Posted by: zombie at July 24, 2015 05:33 PM (jBuUi) "***

See? I told you guys the other day that zombie has gazed too long into the abyss.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 24, 2015 05:35 PM (xSCb6)

17 Is this fake twitter stuff? Like a few people generating a lot of crap?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 24, 2015 05:35 PM (W5DcG)

18 Like many of you, I was annoyed at Gabe. I am frequently annoyed at Gabe. If I didn't like him so much, I'd hate Gabe.

I don't even know him personally, but I'm in the same boat.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 24, 2015 05:35 PM (qCMvj)

19 Yeah, Gabe. As if there is no rational, good faith ground for holding the belief that a nation is best served by controlling who gets to live in it rather than allowing would be immigrants to make that decision themselves.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 24, 2015 05:35 PM (8ZskC)

20 Twitter is like the bathroom in a baseball stadium.

Sometimes like in a Klingon baseball stadium.

Posted by: eman at July 24, 2015 05:35 PM (K4YY+)

21 Zombie is a...a.....vegan?!?!?

A vegan zombie?

Posted by: eleven at July 24, 2015 05:35 PM (MDgS8)

22 Heh, I first saw 'cuckservative' by a commenter here on that cuckold post the other day, thought it was pretty funny and clever. Had no idea it was created by the white power crowd.

Posted by: mugiwara at July 24, 2015 05:35 PM (Iuo7N)

23 Wasn't it recently demonstrated how a handful of
activists were able to use the tech savvy to greatly amplify their
online presence?

Posted by: Burn the Witch

Shhhh you are harshing Gabe's general euphoria of maybe being right for once.

Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at July 24, 2015 05:35 PM (VNgld)

24 The first thing liberals do when bieng blasted for their stupid is cry racism. We don't like illegals coming in because in general they are uneducated no-english speaking drones who will immediately become part of the FSA which we already have too much of.

And in addition to that, wherever they congregate will immediately have a massive increase in crime. I posted the TX statistics for illegals this morning on the last thread. The crime rate and murder rate for illegals in Texas is so high it is unbelievable.

I guess that is racist, although Hispanic is not a race.

Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 24, 2015 05:35 PM (GpgJl)

25 It's Friday-It's summer-enjoy.

Posted by: Shallow HAL 9000 at July 24, 2015 05:36 PM (Gcu5R)

26 by the loathsome people adjacent to that party

This is an interesting new use of the word adjacent which I thought meant "next to" not "in charge of".

Posted by: DaveA at July 24, 2015 05:36 PM (DL2i+)

27 How do I say "I agree" in Roman?

I agreeicus ....

or maybe that just at Hogwarts ...

Posted by: Adriane the Musical Critic ... at July 24, 2015 05:36 PM (qOsoH)

28 Why are you people always forgetting about us native americans?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 24, 2015 05:36 PM (Ii765)

29 Maybe some people just want their own "n-word" that nobody can say but them.

Posted by: K-Bob at July 24, 2015 05:36 PM (Jsc9H)

30 "Though, gotta admit, I feel a lot dirtier about being an immigration-restrictionist now than I did an hour ago"

I wouldn't worry. While the left has its laraza "white people should die already to make way for the new america...us" it's just a fact of life that there are 6B ppl on earth and the donks would replace us with anyone of them if they could. It just so happens the easiest ones to convince to come here are not white. Just like Muslims are arabs because that's as far as the movement advanced before it temporarily imploded. Or is it bad? Should we accept that it's preordained by God that USA needs to take in 1-2M new americans a year, and that assimilation is now a bad thing?

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at July 24, 2015 05:36 PM (uhE1E)

31
Doesn't Hillary have a lot of fake Twitter account followers?

Didn't Barak Obama have a lot of fake Twitter account followers?

Couldn't the democrat party benefit, yet again, from a bunch of fake Twitter accounts? This time as something negative to rally the troops to fight against?

Posted by: Dang at July 24, 2015 05:37 PM (2oWD2)

32 When you're being battered by all sorts of loony grievance groups who only agree that You Are Evil Because White, racial egalitarianism becomes a very difficult stance to justify for many people.

I daresay the Left has undone a half-century's worth of progress in that regard.

And I don't care what you call me, if me and mine are going to be beset on all sides, don't expect me to be giving you the benefit of the doubt. It sucks and it may not be your fault, but that's where it's headed now.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 24, 2015 05:37 PM (2l5vw)

33 Ummm, what is the other mass shooting racial incident other than South Carolina?

Posted by: prescient11 at July 24, 2015 05:37 PM (q5APL)

34 The nazis showed up suddenly, en masse, attacking a few of you who are known conservative commentators and friends.

I never saw them, they don't show up in my feed.

Likelihood of it being a few bored idiots, or a short term Media Matters Social Media Trolling investment? High.

Yes, there are more aggressive racists in the world than I want to believe. There are more heinous people of all kinds than I want to believe.

They ARE fringe.

They are still the fringe.

Posted by: Less at July 24, 2015 05:38 PM (PGXeZ)

35

Christ. This is like homework after you've had a Scotch.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 24, 2015 05:38 PM (qCMvj)

36 You're article leaves us out. Reactionaries are also involved in this meme and we're going to be pushing it from our monarchist theocrat angle too. Russian Nationalists are also helping.

Posted by: Reactionary1 at July 24, 2015 05:38 PM (6M4WB)

37

And, it doesn't help I said *drink* every time Gabe is mentioned either.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 24, 2015 05:38 PM (qCMvj)

38 A lot more racists in the Democrat party, I'm just sayin'.

(And let's just admit that racism is inherent in all of us, it's our animalistic tribal instinct. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to overcome it)

Posted by: I got no clue but I can hazard a guess at July 24, 2015 05:39 PM (q177U)

39

Ok but then directly after that tweet, Gabe re tweeted a Will Antonin tweet

Something I'll never understand: People who praise Texas as 'real America'...then bash Mexicans. Have you never lived in Texas?

he didnt refer to these Cuckservative people

it sure looked like he was refering to Trump. He was. In his first tweet he mentioned Trump.

You have 41k followers. Of that, you found 8 by your own admission that were doing this

not a lot

I have no idea how many Gabe has been getting, out of his total followers

even so, Gabe painted all trump followers with the same brush as these assholes

its not funny when libs do it. It sucks when we do it

Posted by: ThunderB at July 24, 2015 05:39 PM (zOTsN)

40 So, what has Gabe concluded from this episode?

Posted by: eman at July 24, 2015 05:39 PM (K4YY+)

41 >>>When you're being battered by all sorts of loony grievance groups who only agree that You Are Evil Because White, racial egalitarianism becomes a very difficult stance to justify for many people.

true

>>>Ummm, what is the other mass shooting racial incident other than South Carolina?

well to be honest, i'm assuming there. I'm assuming the LA one was some kind of racecore nutter.

Posted by: ace at July 24, 2015 05:39 PM (dciA+)

42
at least the sorts of person who casually uses the word "muds" (as in "I'm not going to stand by and see my country polluted by muds" -- that sort of thing)

The most linguistically interesting new racial insults I've seen in recent years is

the reggin

The origin, if you care to look at it backwards, is obvious.

But what makes it interesting is that it's a group-noun, and thus counts as a plural -- "I don't want the reggin taking over my neighborhood" -- is that Old English had "-en" as a plural form ("oxen"), and ancient Hebrew had "-im" as a plural ("seraphim"), so it really fits right in as a plural-seeming word, just from looking at it.

And to think that shave-headed swastika-tattooed cretinous supremacists came up with it!

Posted by: zombie at July 24, 2015 05:39 PM (jBuUi)

43 As if there is no rational, good faith ground for holding the belief that a nation is best served by controlling who gets to live in it rather than allowing would be immigrants to make that decision themselves.

I would have no problem with immigrants making that decision themselves, if their decision was clearly based on living in a free country where you can succeed by working hard; rather than based on we will reward you with free stuff if you manage to cross that border, and your kids will always have a credit limit with us.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 24, 2015 05:39 PM (2lndx)

44 Can you believe what puritanical, misanthropic idiots our ancestors were?

Those twats had their nubbins in a wringer over the most trivial shit in human nature.

Posted by: historian from the future at July 24, 2015 05:39 PM (VY8H5)

45 If the president is a racist, and he most certainly is, it it surprising that after the black racists have been unleashed and the Hispanic (La Raza) racists have been unleashed that the white racists would not release themselves?

Not to me. It's human nature.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at July 24, 2015 05:39 PM (f+6Pd)

46 Not to get too tinfoil hatty, but there are conspiracy theories that the left is creating fake conservatives to spout racist stuff on social media. Ace mentioned, "It came out of nowhere and it came all at once." Given the Democrat-Media Complex's obsession with racial strife, that should make your Bullshit Detector spike. Like when Stephanopoulos in the GOP debate in '12 kept asking weird questions about contraception.

Posted by: FishingWithFredo at July 24, 2015 05:40 PM (INiW9)

47 So the takeaway is, had Gabe's simply added the words "some of" at just the right point in his statement and this would not have occurred.

Posted by: pedant at July 24, 2015 05:40 PM (bGLSw)

48 "Ummm, what is the other mass shooting racial incident other than South Carolina?"

it is annoying discussing this stuff bc there have been tons of anti-white crime, from a 4 person family being tortured to death in DC, to the baltimore riots targeting whites, to various knock out game victims.

add in that the leftwing Dr. Amy Bishops of the world also don't count and it's basically like we're all bad.

Sure, we are intelligent enough to observe these things without becoming bad people who judges other. But there are people who aren't.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at July 24, 2015 05:40 PM (uhE1E)

49
ace, just spontaneous reactions that may be ill-founded, as I didn't see Gabe's tweet except the one sentence you posted here, and am not on Twitter.

An "anti-immigration" pushwould be specific objections to immigration policies or laws, such as the current lawless abuse of the H1B system (not new, but worsening).

No,hold on - even*that* would not beabout immigration. H1Bs are non-immigrant visas.

If Gabe is sloppily adopting the orwellianinverted word definitionand underlyingassumption that the huge national disaster of illegal immigration and all its associated ills is the same thing as "immigration", then, wow.

Illegal immigration is a national disaster engaging every fundamental negative trend in the country and civic culture.

Legal immigration is a serious problem because of historically familiar and totally legit problems of absorption capacity and economic malaise.

Race and racism have nothing to do with either. Anyone who doesn't understand that is stupid, misinformed, dishonest, or a combo of the three.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 24, 2015 05:40 PM (QDnY+)

50 Cut Gabe a break because he's a fucking asshole who would never do the same for you, as his tweet clearly demonstrates? Meh. Fuck that.

Posted by: gm at July 24, 2015 05:40 PM (AjxJU)

51 >>>it sure looked like he was refering to Trump. He was. In his first tweet he mentioned Trump.

well seriously you can't really get outraged at using a standard political play (even if an insipid one) to attack a politician he hates.

I mean, we all do it. Let he who is without sin.

Posted by: ace at July 24, 2015 05:41 PM (dciA+)

52 My God, Nancy! Do you think you can clutch your skirt any tighter? Obama has destroyed race relations, and people are now choosing sides. It's the logical conclusion of let it burn. This is the burning.

Posted by: DFCtomm at July 24, 2015 05:41 PM (fUDry)

53 Posted by: ThunderB at July 24, 2015 05:39 PM (zOTsN)

Gabe is not we.

Posted by: eman at July 24, 2015 05:41 PM (K4YY+)

54 1. Never heard of this until just now.
2. What does it even mean? Is that supposed to be a contraction of cuckholded conservative? Please explain.

Never mind, I'm all in for this latest exciting TwiTrend:
Cuckservatives are a positive force for, and essential to, the success of the eventual Republican nominee, and here's why.

Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at July 24, 2015 05:41 PM (Ilm6f)

55 Ace, how about Gabe's Texas comment?

Posted by: logprof at July 24, 2015 05:42 PM (iNLlj)

56 I'm not a racist. I hate everybody equally.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at July 24, 2015 05:42 PM (f+6Pd)

57 Ace, maybe it's time (and past time) you stopped using that word "racist". Or at least explain what you mean by it. Because as far as I can tell, a "racist" is someone who believes race is a good first indicator of a number of important traits. And if that is the case, then I am certainly a racist, and I would be very surprised if you were not a racist also. Denying that you are aware of race, means lying, and at the same time admitting that you are ashamed of your lie.

PS - If you really want to try to convince me that you aren't a "racist", go for it.

Posted by: Jerome at July 24, 2015 05:42 PM (Opcdk)

58 But Internet Trolls are always so honest and straightforward about their beliefs.

"Small
group" or individual harassment could be anything. Remember GNAA and
personal threats during GamerGate, a lot of people are still unaware of
how much they bragged about it (and blame others). OR given the semi-topicality, Pro Russian Trolls.

If someone is
trying to pressure you into changing your political position, it's
unlikely to be because they support that position. That does happen, through sheer stupidity, but
I think the reverse is rather more often true.

Lest we forget; Kilgore Trout.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 24, 2015 05:42 PM (bLnSU)

59 A lot more racists in the Democrat party, I'm just sayin'.

***

and they have a fanatical mindset of they can't sin because they are so super proggy

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at July 24, 2015 05:42 PM (uhE1E)

60 I think Paolo should "take back" cuckservative.

He likes taking things.

Posted by: Ktgreat at July 24, 2015 05:42 PM (Bl4dy)

61 Twitter? The bon mot kingdom, peopled almost entirely by half-wits.

Posted by: Captain Oblivious at July 24, 2015 05:43 PM (hiT/m)

62 guys, I just told you that there really is, hand to God, an energetic and large-APPEARING movement of white supremacist agitators who have shocked the system since yesterday and all you continue to do is say "Gabe was talking about us, boo."

I can only present facts to you. What you do when facts are presented to you is up to you. If you want to ignore them, that's up to you.

If you want, I can post some of the nazi tweets I got... Is that necessary?

Posted by: ace at July 24, 2015 05:43 PM (dciA+)

63 And the overwhelming majority of the hard core racists that I have come across in recent years have been black.

I forced to sit in a small room getting chemo and listen the horrid little black scrunt who came in with her grandmother who was getting chemo also. For well over an hour she sat hand raved about white people being the cause of every evil on earth. On and on and on. Every failure she had ever experienced was whitey's fault. And I know she was doing it to aggravate me. And her grandmother must have agreed with it because she made no effort at all to shut her up.

But the worsts racists are the race mongers like Jesse and Al. That's how they make their living.

Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 24, 2015 05:43 PM (GpgJl)

64

its no excuse

none at all

but I think this happening now has more to do with the cuckhold article (obviously)

and the netroots going mental when O Malley said "All lives matter"

and the message was very clearly shouted "No they do not"

I think that has way more to do with this pathology coming out now than SC

they arent writing about SC, at all

Posted by: ThunderB at July 24, 2015 05:43 PM (zOTsN)

65 >>>57 Ace, maybe it's time (and past time) you stopped using that word "racist". Or at least explain what you mean by it. Because as far as I can tell, a "racist" is someone who believes race is a good first indicator of a number of important traits. And if that is the case, then I am certainly a racist, and I would be very surprised if you were not a racist also. Denying that you are aware of race, means lying, and at the same time admitting that you are ashamed of your lie.

PS - If you really want to try to convince me that you aren't a "racist", go for it.

...

well there you go

Posted by: ace at July 24, 2015 05:43 PM (dciA+)

66 (Though, gotta admit, I feel a lot dirtier about being an immigration-restrictionist now than I did an hour ago.)

eh?
wut?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 24, 2015 05:43 PM (qCMvj)

67 Ace, maybe it's time (and past time) you stopped using that word "racist". Or at least explain what you mean by it. Because as far as I can tell, a "racist" is someone who believes race is a good first indicator of a number of important traits. And if that is the case, then I am certainly a racist, and I would be very surprised if you were not a racist also. Denying that you are aware of race, means lying, and at the same time admitting that you are ashamed of your lie.

***

Just want to add that if you're an atheist then don't you believe that we're all just evolved species...and therefore there are ... differences. That we're all not created equal by some outside oooga-booga sky man?

I'm a God fearing kind of guy, so that doesn't concern me.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at July 24, 2015 05:43 PM (uhE1E)

68 he wasnt attacking trump

he was attacking everyone who agreed with trumps message about the border

Posted by: ThunderB at July 24, 2015 05:44 PM (zOTsN)

69 Don't go taking Twitter as representative of anything, Ace.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 24, 2015 05:45 PM (oVJmc)

70 guys, I just told you that there really is, hand to God, an energetic and large-APPEARING movement of white supremacist agitators

So what?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2015 05:45 PM (VY8H5)

71 >>And the overwhelming majority of the hard core racists that I have come across in recent years have been black.

that's fine, but this can be categorized as "the exact same thing vic would have said before learning (?) any of this new information."

I prefer to at least pretend that my brain reacts to new information, instead of forever defaulting the old stuff.

Posted by: ace at July 24, 2015 05:45 PM (dciA+)

72 ***"So, what has Gabe concluded from this episode?"***

I wonder if he'll call for whatever that was after the SCROTUS decision on gay marriage.

Laurie David's Cervix, help a Moron out. you're the one who caught it

Malor hasn't exactly been a paragon of civility on twitter himself.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 24, 2015 05:45 PM (xSCb6)

73 33
Ummm, what is the other mass shooting racial incident other than South Carolina?

Posted by: prescient11 at July 24, 2015 05:37 PM (q5APL)

How about all the mall riots where roving gangs of blacks attack whites. So many going on until the press quit reporting it.

Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 24, 2015 05:45 PM (GpgJl)

74 Well, they're not Nihilists.
At least nazis had a FUCKING ETHOS.

Posted by: John "I'm an as*hole" Goodman at July 24, 2015 05:45 PM (l2Gqi)

75 And her grandmother must have agreed with it because she made no effort at all to shut her up.

"I apologize for the cancer thing. It was supposed to be a painless way to go, and it just sort of got out of hand and spread to the white community too."

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 24, 2015 05:46 PM (2lndx)

76 I think the term cuckservative probably suffers from a coincidental sudden creation in the minds of many...social critics.

Probably because the left is all into it now and it's easy to mock.

I think I got ace's version and the version of McConnell. I wasn't aware of the evil version.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at July 24, 2015 05:46 PM (uhE1E)

77 A vegan zombie?
Posted by: eleven at July 24, 2015 05:35 PM (MDgS

--------------------------------------------------
They only attack people in wheelchairs.

Posted by: George A Romeo at July 24, 2015 05:46 PM (E5UB0)

78 WTH is a "cuckservative"?

Posted by: chemjeff not at Fapplebee's at July 24, 2015 05:46 PM (5p18q)

79 (I'm attempting a sort of penance-by-honesty-and-good-behavior, a secular notion but who knows, maybe there's something to it; we'll see. (I know that Saves me not at all.))

heh
there is something to this
you'll see

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 24, 2015 05:46 PM (qCMvj)

80 I think what makes white racism so shocking is that it's so culturally taboo.

We can listen to other forms of racism all day long and hardly notice.

Posted by: I got no clue but I can hazard a guess at July 24, 2015 05:46 PM (q177U)

81 When I saw it, I assumed it referred to these jackasses rolling over for every. fucking. thing.

And it's a pretty funny and good description of how fucking spineless they are. Didn't know it had any connotations other than that. It also seemed to be a part of that Sonmore thing that is going around.

Oh well. Someone is always going to use a thing for another thing.

11 I'm fairly certain that Twitter is not a very accurate representation of any social movement.

Wasn't it recently demonstrated how a handful of activists were able to use the tech savvy to greatly amplify their online presence?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 24, 2015 05:33 PM (xSCb6)

The SJW crowd uses Twitter to the point where it seems like there has to be hundreds of millions of people who believe the same things as these turds when in fact there aren't that many of them.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 24, 2015 05:46 PM (oFCZn)

82 well to be honest, i'm assuming there. I'm assuming the LA one was some kind of racecore nutter.

Posted by: ace at July 24, 2015 05:39 PM (dciA+)

No Ace, he was a white nutter shooting whites.

Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 24, 2015 05:46 PM (GpgJl)

83 ,>>>well seriously you can't really get outraged at using a standard political play (even if an insipid one) to attack a politician he hates.

I mean, we all do it. Let he who is without sin.

Posted by: ace at July 24, 2015 05:41 PM (dciA+)>>>

He didn't attack the candidate. He attacked the supporters. I.e., 25% of the GOP electorate, which he knows damn well isn't just a bunch of racists. He just went Cochran on conservatives.

Posted by: gm at July 24, 2015 05:47 PM (AjxJU)

84 "Conservakin" is a better word anyway.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 24, 2015 05:47 PM (0RiBv)

85 A *lot* of people are desperate to let trolls under their skin.

Trolls want to get under people's skin.

So, the process never ends.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 24, 2015 05:47 PM (bLnSU)

86
And the analogy of Ayers/Obama to your (hypothetical?) Roof/Reagan pairing is silly. Ayers was, actually, an associate of Obama who, actually, materially assisted him in his early "career", and obviously came from the same toxic hateful freakish milieu. The psycho in SC who had black drinking buddies wasn't born when Reagan was an active public figure.

You might - might - consider less frequent recourse to this "everybody does it" generalizations when you are doing your excellent dissections of illogical and tendentious argument tactics. Dim, stupid, or illogical people on "the right" must surely do it sometimes, but the other side is *built around it*, and has almost nothing else to say.

Galaxy-sized difference.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 24, 2015 05:47 PM (QDnY+)

87 Modern conservatism's always had a racial appeal to disaffected whites, much as everyone wants to pretend it's this pure, abstract free-market/limited govt. ideology that everyone benefits from.

not that that makes these guys OK, obviously, but the mainstream of the conservative movement is really tone deaf on the subject. You can only discuss downsides of immigration in economic/political terms; Democrats are the "party of Jim Crow" never mind the Southern migration to the GOP; a lack of acknowledgement that blacks are disadvantaged in this country; etc.

Evil far right vs. stupid liberal lite, basically.

Posted by: W at July 24, 2015 05:48 PM (e1hQx)

88 The ratio of tweeter to person is not 1:1. 140 twitter accounts could well be a couple of people with too much time on their hands and an ax to grind. If it happens all at once doesn't that seem quite suspicious?

Posted by: Mr. FeverHead at July 24, 2015 05:48 PM (j1Wvr)

89 eh, maybe you have to get mobbed with it yourselves in order to understand, on a gut level, how much of an impact this has.

Maybe this is the sort of thing that simply cannot be communicated or understood, except by first-hand experience.

I, personally, have just never seen so many accounts pushing the White Race button before, not all at once, not all in concert.

Posted by: ace at July 24, 2015 05:48 PM (dciA+)

90 No Ace, he was a white nutter shooting whites.

***

Apparently, he managed to be westboro and tea party. Who knows what else.

but mostly loony.

probably on the crazy pills like all the other masss shooters.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at July 24, 2015 05:48 PM (uhE1E)

91 I saw #cuckservative and immediately came to the conclusion, "Oh, a fake movement created by liberal trolls trying to start something." But then everything seems fake to me anymore.

Posted by: noone at July 24, 2015 05:48 PM (9pNWx)

92 It came out of nowhere and it came all at once, and when it came, there is no ignoring it, and certainly there is no denying it.

meh, how do we know it's not bought and paid for

of course there are racists, but all of a sudden, a barrage?

suspicious

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 24, 2015 05:49 PM (qCMvj)

93 how do you know that this isn't just another example of lefties faking some outrage-y outrageousness?

Posted by: the Butcher at July 24, 2015 05:49 PM (fUjxW)

94 Because as far as I can tell, a "racist" is someone who believes race is a good first indicator of a number of important traits.

Yikes! Then I am proud and relieved to find another way that I am not a racist.

Let's ditch beliefs and thoughts and talk like that.

Posted by: Captain Oblivious at July 24, 2015 05:49 PM (hiT/m)

95 >>>I can only present facts to you. What you do when facts are presented to you is up to you. If you want to ignore them, that's up to you.

If you want, I can post some of the nazi tweets I got... Is that necessary?

Posted by: ace at July 24, 2015 05:43 PM (dciA+)>>>

Pretending he didn't impute them beyond their actual applicability is ignoring the facts.

Posted by: gm at July 24, 2015 05:49 PM (AjxJU)

96 Ace is prochoice, correct??

Well if you want to feel like a really dirty mofo, get geared up.

Because the most vicious, racist people are big fans of abortion for keeping the "muds" population numbers down.

So if Ace is lining up behind every policy that the racists do, what does that tell you??

hahaha, no worries ace, I am pissed though that such a fun name has been apparently hijacked.

Posted by: prescient11 at July 24, 2015 05:49 PM (q5APL)

97 Appearing?

Let me know when the hammerskins are marching 500K strong with #cucksucker banners down the national mall.

There are 6 billion people on this planet. How easy would it be to fake a movement via Putin/ChiCom derps on the internet?

Fucking Christ some of you guys are fucking gullible.

Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at July 24, 2015 05:49 PM (VNgld)

98 This just seems like a stupid hashtag #BringBackOurGirls type of stupid nonsense that will have absolutely zero impact on anything.

Posted by: chemjeff not at Fapplebee's at July 24, 2015 05:50 PM (5p18q)

99 I suppose we've forgotten what the term "Moby" is and that everything you see in Twitter is like totes legit.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 24, 2015 05:50 PM (xSCb6)

100 eh, maybe you have to get mobbed with it yourselves in order to understand, on a gut level, how much of an impact this has.

***

I get one stalky lib loon on twitter...it's annoying (when he tries to hack your twitter account, it gets scary). and I'm a nobody. I can imagine for the popular folks, it's a freakshow.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at July 24, 2015 05:50 PM (uhE1E)

101 Racist peanut butter cups?

Posted by: rebel flounder at July 24, 2015 05:50 PM (Vf5rR)

102 >>>Not to get too tinfoil hatty, but there are conspiracy theories that the
left is creating fake conservatives to spout racist stuff on social
media. Ace mentioned, "It came out of nowhere and it came all at once."

Listen, I've been involved in this shitshow on Twitter, and I can tell you a little something about the darker corners of the internet: 1.) it is not a Leftist astroturf conspiracy theory 2.) it did not just come out of nowhere.

The "race-realist"/white nationalist community has been a suppurating "thing" for years now, and has obviously grown bigger since the age of Obama. Sites like vDare, Takimag, and others are the closest it comes to semi-respectable voices in the online media, but there's an entire movement known as "alt-right" that has been pushing this stuff for a LONG time now.

The reason it seems to burst from nowhere now? Because of Trump. That's the reason. These guys are, to a man, all *huge* fans of Trump, due in large part to his anti-immigration comments but even more importantly because his attacks on the conservative mainstream echo their own hatred of the conservative mainstream. The thing is, they hate the conservative mainstream for...erm, somewhat different reasons than, say, DrewM.: for "selling out the white race" and encouraging race-cucking (that is, white people adopting non-white babies or marrying ethnic people, including Jews, and thus "polluting" the remaining white seed in the USA.) So they have piggybacked on top of Trump and his "anti-conservative Establishment" popularity to push their OWN grievances -- ones which I have no doubt that Trump doesn't know about, and would think crazy if he did know.

I just spent last night having these people take shots at my "ugly Jew wife." I'm not inclined to deal lightly with them.

The More You Know.

Posted by: Jeff B. at July 24, 2015 05:51 PM (ewYO6)

103 When I saw it, I assumed it referred to these jackasses rolling over for every. fucking. thing.

***

yep

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at July 24, 2015 05:51 PM (uhE1E)

104 Hey ACE
This forum is not Storm Front
That said,
Most Whitey's like my self are just tired of the narrative of Racism.....
Racism just means anti-white
hey after Trillions of Dollars in affirmative action and all the other social experiments geared by the like s of Sandy O'Connor and her group....
If it is not fixed now it never will be...
I am sorry people are going to have to hump their own pack of lie's..

Posted by: Valdez is Coming at July 24, 2015 05:51 PM (/WmRg)

105 "All things are made cleaner and healthier with sunlight."
========

O RLY?

Posted by: Count Dracula at July 24, 2015 05:51 PM (7Kbxu)

106 I can only think of 2 white racists I've known in my adult life.
Both of them people I worked with.
But my dad was racist. He was born in 1915!

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at July 24, 2015 05:51 PM (l2Gqi)

107 i can see SJW's doing a fake racist thing en mass. Just think of all the fake racist things they are getting caught doing on college campus of liberal arts schools

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 24, 2015 05:51 PM (Ii765)

108
A lot of stalinists went full hitler. They have much in common. If you look at all those Baader Meinhof boys and girls, they are a good example. For decades they and the Red Brigade were receiving $$$ from some Swiss millionaire, now dead. As they fizzled out, they became neo nazis or worse, greens.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2015 05:51 PM (iQIUe)

109 Maybe Twitter finally made it to Coeur d'Alene and they all decided to log in.

Posted by: chemjeff not at Fapplebee's at July 24, 2015 05:52 PM (5p18q)

110 78
WTH is a "cuckservative"?

I am acquainted with someone involved in this. The term is a combo of "cuckold" and "conservative," wherein conservatives (and pretty much all whites except themselves) are somehow, one way or the other, furthering the mixing and destruction of The White Race, both by loose immigration policy as well as intermarriage and white families adopting non-white children. Hence whites are cuckolding themselves, as a husband would who encourages an unfaithful wife to be impregnated by another man, then supporting the child that results.

Posted by: Doomed at July 24, 2015 05:52 PM (bGLSw)

111 All things are made cleaner and healthier with sunlight.

thank you Michelle Malkin

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 24, 2015 05:52 PM (qCMvj)

112 Didn't Rush, for example, determine that the last big boycott Rush campaign could be traced back to a half-dozen or so individuals using multiple sock puppet accounts?

Hell, we do it HERE, why do you think the social justice left doesn't do it to make themselves seem more prevalent than they actually are?

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at July 24, 2015 05:52 PM (Nj2wY)

113 Damnit, I was enjoying this meme of the moment.

I should've known something evil was going on with it when I found out it was one of the common insults among the 8chan/Encyclopedia Dramatica assholes.

'Cuck' is some sort of racist batsignal among them I guess.

Posted by: El Kabong at July 24, 2015 05:53 PM (9oC/Q)

114 This sounds like /pol/ from the chans. They took to twitter during the GamerGate fiasco and a subsequent war against moot (in which they said he was a cuckold).

So it's nothing really new, just far less contained than it used to be.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 24, 2015 05:53 PM (shLnc)

115 I've seen the tweets. Who knows but they look organic, not astro turf

even so its an exceedingly small number, pushing a disproportionately large number of tweets

with which Gabe painted everyone else concerned about the border with

that sucks

Posted by: ThunderB at July 24, 2015 05:53 PM (zOTsN)

116 Sick of being called a racist by fucking assholes because of something some other fucking asshole said or did. Fuck Gabe and fuck Cochran and fuck the fucking racist assholes.

Posted by: gm at July 24, 2015 05:53 PM (AjxJU)

117 yeah I think I am on Team "Question The Timing"

Posted by: chemjeff not at Fapplebee's at July 24, 2015 05:53 PM (5p18q)

118 Ace,

Just a heads up on the LA guy, Gateway Pundit was reporting that he was an Obama supporter, so not exactly the race war advocate I think.

Just a nutter I suppose.

Posted by: prescient11 at July 24, 2015 05:54 PM (q5APL)

119 >>>>87 Modern conservatism's always had a racial appeal to disaffected whites, much as everyone wants to pretend it's this pure, abstract free-market/limited govt. ideology that everyone benefits from.

true, there's always going to be some tribal interest in play, all politics being a coalition of interest groups, but there is a difference between the claims "I do not want my government imposing penalties on me to make up for harms suffered by blacks that had nothing to do with me" and "we must protect our country against the muds."

The first does in fact involve race, but it's a legitimate (I would say) thing for me to say "No you can't have that" if another group is going to go to government to make that demand. If one group can say yes, I get to say no.

The second does more than involve race; it is in all ways about race, and the wars between the races.

A limited government would serve my purposes. I do not have to war against any other group, if the government is not so powerful that it routinely dispenses favors to one race or the other.

Posted by: ace at July 24, 2015 05:54 PM (dciA+)

120 92
It came out of nowhere and it came all at once, and when it came, there is no ignoring it, and certainly there is no denying it.

meh, how do we know it's not bought and paid for

of course there are racists, but all of a sudden, a barrage?

suspicious

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 24, 2015 05:49 PM (qCMvj)

Wouldn't surprise me in the least. The left has shown that they are light years ahead in using and abusing social media for the cause. 'Tis far easier to believe this than a bunch of closeted neo-nazi knuckledragger types flash-mobbing a bunch of twitter accounts.

Posted by: rebel flounder at July 24, 2015 05:54 PM (Vf5rR)

121 Crazy lynch mobs on Twitter?

Posted by: Color Me Shocked! at July 24, 2015 05:54 PM (XxZgW)

122 " When I saw it, I assumed it referred to these jackasses rolling over for every. fucking. thing. "

Yeah, me too. If fact this week was the first time I'd ever heard of it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 24, 2015 05:54 PM (LA7Cm)

123 I actually read the overview of a "cuckservative" on amren.com and think it made too much sense to come from a liberal.

Posted by: BacktoGA at July 24, 2015 05:54 PM (QxZCI)

124 I, personally, have just never seen so many accounts pushing the White Race button before, not all at once, not all in concert.

Of course there's a Stormfront Twitterati - shit draws all kinds of flies.

Posted by: DaveA at July 24, 2015 05:54 PM (DL2i+)

125 Ace, you kind of sound like a cuckservative...

Posted by: tyler draper at July 24, 2015 05:54 PM (G685q)

126 "everything seems fake to me anymore"

Same here. Unfortunately. At least if it comes to me via media.

Well, except all the stupid / evil crap the gov is doing, that seems all too real.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 24, 2015 05:54 PM (go6ud)

127
ace, racism among/by non-whites (well, not so much Asians)is mainstream, it's central to whole communities, its disgraced the office of the presidency ("would have looked like me").

Infantile and ultimately morally narcissistic white "guilt" disfigures the society and has helped wreck the rule of law (affirmative action, disparate impact).

Kooky white supremacists are meaningless isolated hold-out White Guard officers along the Amur River, non-white racism and white guilt are the NKVD under Stalin, ravaging and murdering (figuratively, mostly) a huge nation.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 24, 2015 05:55 PM (QDnY+)

128 ... what the hell is this "cuck" stuff about? The only reference recently I can think of about that word is the omega-male dweeb in that one article all for his wife's adultery because of teh feminism. Cuckold. What possible connection does this have to do with race?

Anyone?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 05:55 PM (39g3+)

129 "How about all the mall riots where roving gangs of blacks attack whites. So many going on until the press quit reporting it."

If you have noticed that the roving gangs are black, and the people attacked are white, then you are a racist.

Posted by: Jerome at July 24, 2015 05:55 PM (Opcdk)

130 You know who the biggest racists are?

Those that have a hard-on for all things racism.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2015 05:55 PM (VY8H5)

131 Wake me up when a Democrat is forced to admit #WhiteLivesMatter. We know it's not Bernie Sanders or O'Malley.

Posted by: Kate58 at July 24, 2015 05:55 PM (oLZsm)

132 89
eh, maybe you have to get mobbed with it yourselves in order to understand, on a gut level, how much of an impact this has.

Maybe this is the sort of thing that simply cannot be communicated or understood, except by first-hand experience.

I, personally, have just never seen so many accounts pushing the White Race button before, not all at once, not all in concert.

Posted by: ace at July 24, 2015 05:48 PM (dciA+)

How many have you seen pushing the black race button? Did they offend you equally? This is the logical outcome of racial pandering. It makes both sides feel aggrieved, and that leaves no room for negotiation, except the oldest form of negotiation. Race relations have peaked, and it's all down hill from here.

Posted by: DFCtomm at July 24, 2015 05:55 PM (fUDry)

133 Posted by: W at July 24, 2015 05:48 PM (e1hQx)

Oh, hey new guy. Just so you know, everything you just posted has been debunked, disproven, and dismantled more times than you're probably capable of counting.

So unless you have some new evidence, kindly GFY.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 24, 2015 05:55 PM (xSCb6)

134 I'd bet a space-buckazoid that 4chan is behind #cuckservative in some way.

Posted by: blergh at July 24, 2015 05:55 PM (wjd4o)

135 And yes, folks, the phrase "cuckservative" was explicitly invented by race-realists to label conservatives as selling out White America, and also to imply sexual and political submissiveness to black people and Hispanics.

There is a much less inflammatory insult-word out there, "conservakin" (a play on the Tumblr insanity of "otherkin," where sad people believe themselves to be animals trapped in human bodies) which is a far more acceptable substitute but is also being used now by the racist types.

Posted by: Jeff B., RINO Scum at July 24, 2015 05:55 PM (ewYO6)

136 White nationalists use "cuckservative" and "race cuck" in discourse where using "race traitor" would be a liability. So, you're a white conservative and int find interracial couples offensive? Cuck! Adopt a non-white child? Cuck! Don't "name the Jew" as the source of all white misery? C- well, you know.

If that's not sufficiently bizarre, you ought to look into the bodybuilding connection to neoreactionaries...

Posted by: Mr. Proper at July 24, 2015 05:55 PM (FuZZv)

137 If you have read the FBI's statistics on inter-racial crimes, then you are a racist.

Posted by: Jerome at July 24, 2015 05:56 PM (Opcdk)

138
Pretty sure hair color is a pretty good first indicator of personality as well. Witness Gingers.

But then, I know for a fact that the evil people of all races are the ones with freckles.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at July 24, 2015 05:56 PM (l2Gqi)

139 " I've come to believe that debates, even ones involving ugly things, should not be covered up, but should actually be had out; so while some may fret that these people will discredit us, I look on the bright side: All things are made cleaner and healthier with sunlight."

You may not remember but your objection when I tried to do this and your misunderstanding of what I was doing led to my self-imposed scarcity around these parts.

Glad you see things differently now. Seriously.

Posted by: baldilocks at July 24, 2015 05:56 PM (F/scB)

140 Until 2 minutes ago, I had never heard of a cuckservative.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 24, 2015 05:56 PM (JO9+V)

141 If you are aware that the IQs of American blacks are a full standard deviation lower than those of whites, then you are a racist.

Posted by: Jerome at July 24, 2015 05:56 PM (Opcdk)

142 I've seen Conservakin too but don't know what it means.

How about:

#fuckservative

#conservatard

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 24, 2015 05:56 PM (oFCZn)

143 I feel people have taken the same approach with immigration that they have with the treasury- "More benefits/tax breaks/financial funding? Sure! We can pay for that! People want to come live in our great country?! Let's not be racist- come on in!"

Posted by: BacktoGA at July 24, 2015 05:57 PM (QxZCI)

144 A racist white power mob suddenly appears coordinated on Twitter? Probability it is a put up job approaches 100%.

Posted by: Mr. FeverHead at July 24, 2015 05:57 PM (j1Wvr)

145 ace, racism among/by non-whites (well, not so much Asians)is mainstream, it's central to whole communities, its disgraced the office of the presidency ("would have looked like me").

Based on my experiences and observations, the least racist people in the entire planet, on average, are white Americans. The least.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 05:57 PM (39g3+)

146 1) fuck all racist assholes of any color.

2) are we not a nation of laws? Shouldn't someone basically familiar with the law and the justice system (last I looked, Gabe is a lawyer) be interested in that system holding together? I have no interest in being part of a third world devolution into anarchy.

Posted by: James at July 24, 2015 05:57 PM (9ui3c)

147 I assume a lot of these low follower count a-holes on twitter who are spewing their racial pride crap are mobys.

Posted by: Y-not at July 24, 2015 05:57 PM (RWGcK)

148 The traditional definition of racist where I come from is someone who takes a strong dislike up to, and including hate, of people of a different race than themselves. And in the past, that was based on the color of their skin. In the south in the 50s and early 60s when I was growing up that was white racists hating on blacks. But not all white people in the South were racists.

Now government sponsored racism has all but disappeared except in one area, affirmative action and racism against whites.

There are still a few very old die hard white racists in the south, but in a few more years they will be gone. Yes, there are some Nazis and KKK members, but most of them have congregated to IL and IN. The FBI has about eliminated all of them in the south while ignoring the north,

Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 24, 2015 05:57 PM (GpgJl)

149 >>>Appearing?

Let me know when the hammerskins are marching 500K strong with #cucksucker banners down the national mall.

There are 6 billion people on this planet. How easy would it be to fake a movement via Putin/ChiCom derps on the internet?

Fucking Christ some of you guys are fucking gullible.

...

oh fuck you and also learn to ask questions.

The point of saying Large-APPEARING (Appearing in caps, note) was to say it APPEARED large. That is, the emphasis is being put on APPEARED -- which someone more conversant with written English would understand is intended to set up a distinction between what it IS, in reality.

My point -- which I would have clarified for you, had you asked, instead of barking like an angry asshole's dog -- is that there is an EMOTIONAL reaction when one gets mobbed up by a group that APPEARS to be large (whether it is or is not).

It makes an impact. Which is what I was claiming, on Gabe's behalf (as well as my own). Getting mobbed up by White Supremacists is something that people notice.

At least, people like me.

Posted by: ace at July 24, 2015 05:58 PM (dciA+)

150 O RLY?
Posted by: Count Dracula

I'm healthier after you've been cleaned by sunlight, Count.

Posted by: Eric Brooks at July 24, 2015 05:58 PM (2lndx)

151 so now the meme is if you agree with trump you are storefront

well thats just awesome

Posted by: ThunderB at July 24, 2015 05:58 PM (zOTsN)

152 Meh.

I'm going to call BS on this to a certain extent-

a lot of the racist and sexist incidents on campuses or "real life" are perpetrated by minority SJWs "raising awareness" for all of us unenlightened conservative types.

The sudden gang tweeting seems pretty suspicious to me.

But, who knows, maybe the Storm Front types decided this was their time to fly.

Still, I kinda doubt it.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 24, 2015 05:58 PM (0cMkb)

153 This comment thread with Ace reminds me of that episode in the first season of Trailer Park Boys where Ricky proposes to Lucy.

"I love Lucy, I'm not gay. Wait a second, maybe I am gay. I think we're gay Julian!"

classic.

Posted by: prescient11 at July 24, 2015 05:58 PM (q5APL)

154 Modern conservatism's always had a racial appeal to disaffected whites, much as everyone wants to pretend it's this pure, abstract free-market/limited govt. ideology that everyone benefits from.

****

That's more Southern Strategy mythology. We didn't trade places of northern whites for southern whites, we got more whites everywhere.

The confusion is that the left's Invasion USA strategy includes distasteful racial bait that most whites resist (or embrace) like affirmative action. Resisting AA doesn't mean you are a dissatisfied white loser.

Other things I learned in researching the myth of the Southern Strategy was FDR's econ policies actually appealed to blacks while it drove away whites. As a matter of policy, not race alone, blacks drifted to the DNC despite, ah, historical racial animosity, just as, I am sure, southern whites drifted to GOP for economic reasons, despite their historic animosity to GOP.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at July 24, 2015 05:59 PM (uhE1E)

155 stormfront not storefront

fucking apple

Posted by: ThunderB at July 24, 2015 05:59 PM (zOTsN)

156 Fucking Christ some of you guys are fucking gullible.

Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at July 24, 2015 05:49 PM (VNgld)
----------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, we've all had countless examples of the left's false flag operations. Fake racist graffiti by liberal college students, fake rape accusations, false anti-gay/islam attacks. It's probably quite easy to program a 'bot to inundate twitter with this kind of stuff.

At this point, I've been taken in so many times, I'd have to see more evidence that this is real before I'd get worked up.

Posted by: SJW crying wolf at July 24, 2015 05:59 PM (E5UB0)

157 Oh, great.

That racist, Baldilocks, is back again.

**waves at Baldy**

Been wondering where you have been, lady.

Posted by: Garrett at July 24, 2015 05:59 PM (S0Ca+)

158 102 ..The "race-realist"/white nationalist community has been a suppurating "thing" for years now, and has obviously grown bigger since the age of Obama. Sites like vDare, Takimag, and others are the closest it comes to semi-respectable voices in the online media, but there's an entire movement known as "alt-right" that has been pushing this stuff for a LONG time now.

The reason it seems to burst from nowhere now? Because of Trump. That's the reason. These guys are, to a man, all *huge* fans of Trump, due in large part to his anti-immigration comments but even more importantly because his attacks on the conservative mainstream echo their own hatred of the conservative mainstream. The thing is, they hate the conservative mainstream for..."selling out the white race" and encouraging race-cucking (that is, white people adopting non-white babies or marrying ethnic people, including Jews, and thus "polluting" the remaining white seed in the USA.)...

I just spent last night having these people take shots at my "ugly Jew wife." I'm not inclined to deal lightly with them....

Posted by: Jeff B. at July 24, 2015 05:51 PM (ewYO6)

I had no idea. Thanks for the information. Don't blame you for being angry. I would stand at your side on this issue.

Posted by: Captain Oblivious at July 24, 2015 05:59 PM (hiT/m)

159 Posted by: Count de Monet at July 24, 2015 05:56 PM (JO9+V)

Make that one minute for me; I just arrived here.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 24, 2015 05:59 PM (OSs/l)

160 You know who the biggest racists are?

Those that have a hard-on for all things racism.

They're the only ones that can hear the supposed "dog whistle" racism, too. Because its all in their heads.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 05:59 PM (39g3+)

161 My goodness!
What a coincidence that so many new faces are here tonight!
Cover charge at the door, friends.
Concern trolls have a special exit to the rear of the building please.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at July 24, 2015 05:59 PM (l2Gqi)

162 Ugh. Ugly post. It's not about racism, it's about closing and locking your doors at night. Everyone does it. Those who deny doing it, please post your actual address.

People come to my front door during normal hours get to present their case. They get in or they don't. Doesn't matter what race, color, creed, religion, whatever...

I protect my family by simple actions... the same actions that about 300 million other Americans take. Nobody enters my home without my permission. Ever.

They don't get to enter my home, take a job away from someone I know, have a baby or three, collect some benefits that I paid for, and then point their finger at me.

Fu k em. All of them. Whatever color, race, creed, religion. Come to the front door during business hours and present your case.

Posted by: se pa moron at July 24, 2015 05:59 PM (xQX/f)

163 >>>I assume a lot of these low follower count a-holes on twitter who are spewing their racial pride crap are mobys.

see jeff b's point above; I can't swear to all that he claims, but there has been, a-brewing (on, for example, if I understand correctly, those subreddits they were trying to shut down) a kind of resurgent white supremacism.

is this large? No, but what it is, is LOUD; white supremacists had lately been quiet, feeling socially cowed, by and large, but now are finding their voice, and feeling their oats.

Posted by: ace at July 24, 2015 06:00 PM (dciA+)

164 128
... what the hell is this "cuck" stuff about? The only reference
recently I can think of about that word is the omega-male dweeb in that
one article all for his wife's adultery because of teh feminism.
Cuckold. What possible connection does this have to do with race?

Anyone?

***

The essence of it is, Betraying The White Race.

There is a blog that posts photos from social media that evince, in their minds, the collapse of America. Some of them are overtly racist and use the term 'cuckold' when a white female is shown with black men and/or babies. Many of the posters there seem to have an especially deep bitterness against Christians, who see no color in Christ (they seem to be largely neopagans or outright atheists, so that follows). This is the first time I've seen it combined with 'conservative,' however.

Posted by: Doomed at July 24, 2015 06:01 PM (bGLSw)

165 meh, too much controversy for a Friday night

time to be with the one I love

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 24, 2015 06:01 PM (qCMvj)

166 If your handle is Jerome, you may be a racist asshat.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at July 24, 2015 06:01 PM (l2Gqi)

167 Great, so the PAN AM Games instead of CFL tonight. Boo!!

Posted by: logprof at July 24, 2015 06:01 PM (F0fuF)

168

what is great about the Obama years is the racial healing

they are fucked up and awful. Just as fucked up and awful as the people who seriously argue that all lives do not matter

Posted by: ThunderB at July 24, 2015 06:02 PM (zOTsN)

169 >>>so now the meme is if you agree with trump you are storefront

well thats just awesome

...

and... that was in my post? I assume you don't mean that, because that would be asinine.

But I did address this: OF COURE there are actual racists in any movement, especially one that is seeking to reduce immigration by *another race*; which side do you THINK they'd be on?

Posted by: ace at July 24, 2015 06:02 PM (dciA+)

170 There are 6 billion people on this planet. How easy would it be to fake a movement via Putin/ChiCom derps on the internet?

Sure, easy but unlikely in this case. It only takes like 10 people to seem like a thousand on twitter. You look at your "notifications" and see triple digits and its really impressive.

For the record, Baldilocks could use a hand if you have some money to spare. Buy her book, at the very least. Seriously. Give an 'ette a hand.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 06:02 PM (39g3+)

171 Posted by: Jeff B. at July 24, 2015 05:51 PM (ewYO6)

Got any numbers, or just your anecdotal experience?

As someone else pointed out, until these guys are able to put together large marches around the country, IT'S THE INTERNET. Large grains of salt on a regular basis required.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 24, 2015 06:02 PM (xSCb6)

172 >>> meh, too much controversy for a Friday night

time to be with the one I love

...

but you already ARE.

Posted by: Paolo in a Sexy Whisper at July 24, 2015 06:03 PM (dciA+)

173 I think that it is painfully obvious at this point that GW Bush was somehow involved.

How could it be otherwise.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at July 24, 2015 06:03 PM (BZAd3)

174 Hey gentlemen and ladies. I frequent sites that often invoke this epithet. I have had a couple conversations in the comments sections of these sites with the white nationalists. I watch the trolling videos of a self proclaimed white nationalist (RamZPaul). Never in my life did I ever think I'd watch stuff like this and find a commonality.

Now here comes the part where call "bullshit" and there is nothing I can do that, perhaps. I am a Black man and was influenced by the ideas of Marcus Garvey and Elijah Muhammad. While I don't subscribe to the "white man is the devil stuff", I support the economic ideas of both (self help). Those ideas are Booker T. Washington's ideas. You are probably asking "then why don't you just say you support Booker T.?" Here my answer: I strongly believe that from an economic point of view, integration destroyed the Black community and is more responsible for its decrepit and blighted state than racism.

I find a commonality with the white nationalists because I believe this nation is too vast and diverse to be governed by a central/ federal authority that has, since ratification, attained enough power to enact public policies that can, and have, influenced the most intimate aspects of individual existence. Our government is so large and America is so diverse that any faction that controls government can enact policies that can undermine the values of one of the diverse groups that inhabit America.

The commonality I find with self avowed white nationalists like RamZPaul is the idea of the small republic where the citizens or members share a common set of values. My disagreement with those white nationalists who point out the problems in the Black community in Social Darwinist terms is economic. The Black community is a command economy and the social issues are manifestations of such.

Now for the "cuckservative" stuff: this is what happens when the opposition party has not only failed to present opposition but has intentionally refused to present opposition. These idiots allow the Left to issue bogus narratives with little, if any, counterargument and this allows these narratives to attain a phony legitimacy. ALSO, the "cuckservative" stuff originates from a community that views SOME of the social conservatives as having bought into feminist/ SJW narratives concepts unknowingly. And what of the corrupt behaviors of the GOP which includes but is not limited to Thad Cochran, Arlen Specter, John McCain, condescension towards the Tea Party, and the constant dismissal of libertarians? And when I say libertarians, I do recognize the crazies within that sphere but would it kill you guys to show some love to David Boaz? Would it kill you guys to show some love to Walter E. Williams? Would it kill you guys to acknowledge Thomas Sowell as having a strong libertarian tone in the economic sense? All the things I mentioned thus far compound and are severely eroding the GOP and those "cuckservatives" who are associated with it. In fact, I've seen where the GOP is equated with "cuckservatives" and I'll provide the links. In fact, one article came out TODAY regarding the cuckservatives. I'll shut up and list the links.

Two articles that came out today about the "cuckservatives":
http://www.returnofkings.com/68124/the-american-conservative-establishment-is-collapsing

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/07/23/literal-cuckservatives/

One article on the marriage between conservatism and feminism:
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2014/06/29/marriage-of-feminists-and-conservatives/

Ladies and gentlemen of the GOP and conservative movement, meet your replacements.

Posted by: AlFromBayShore at July 24, 2015 06:03 PM (H7qBA)

175 117
yeah I think I am on Team "Question The Timing"

Posted by: chemjeff not at Fapplebee's at July 24, 2015 05:53 PM (5p18q)

And if it's related to Trump enthusiasm, guess who else benefits on associating racists with Trump. That's right GOPe's hand pick, Jeb Bush.

Lots written about Bush sabotaging McCain in 2000 using dirty tricks.

Posted by: rebel flounder at July 24, 2015 06:03 PM (Vf5rR)

176 Some of them are overtly racist and use the term 'cuckold' when a white female is shown with black men and/or babies.

So they have no earthly comprehension of what the word means, then.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 06:03 PM (39g3+)

177 see jeff b's point above;

Posted by: ace

If you have to cite Jeff "know nothin'" B, you really may want to check yourself.

He'll contradict himself in the span of minutes.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2015 06:04 PM (VY8H5)

178 Ace, this screams false flag.
You know how many nooses have been thrown around campus by actual racists in the last 2 decades only to have the left go into vapors about the rising specter of radical racism? 0.0

Posted by: brainpimp at July 24, 2015 06:04 PM (zosQc)

179 >>Getting mobbed up by White Supremacists is something that people notice.

It's called 'getting out the vote'.

Posted by: Zombie Robert Byrd at July 24, 2015 06:04 PM (S0Ca+)

180 Racists on the Left are lauded and given tv jobs, invited to WH, etc. (See Sharpton, Al)

Racists on the Right are condemned by everyone, including the Right.

Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2015 06:05 PM (reMp6)

181 I shouldn't be surprised that the 'letting it burn' is not pretty. There's a lot of anger just waiting to erupt from all sides.

Posted by: Old Hob at July 24, 2015 06:05 PM (DkXQB)

182 You did make the distinction. Gabe didn't. Of course twitter has space limitations, I understand. Still it does make you distill what you really think. I expect to hear that being concerned about the border is racist from the left. I am sick of hearing it from the right

Posted by: ThunderB at July 24, 2015 06:05 PM (zOTsN)

183 It's funny- I've tried to reply to a couple comments, and when I type my response, it sounds racist. Is that weird? I feel this thread is slightly higher energy, but when Fiorina says she isn't an "old white guy", that isn't racist. But if I pointed out we have a lot of "old white guys" in the Senate today and they're letting us down, that would be racist? I don't know. I'll pour another bourbon and coke and wait for this rain to stop at the beach.

Posted by: BacktoGA at July 24, 2015 06:05 PM (QxZCI)

184 Why care if Gabe thinks you're a racist if he's willing to give up US sovereignty in the name of "not being racist"?

And why feel upset that you're not what your enemy's agitprop makes you out to be? Fascists lie.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 24, 2015 06:05 PM (Wc0Rx)

185 You know, to an angel the difference between homo sapiens and a banana is a percentile.

I wonder if all this simmering eugenics nonsense was handled by others. Of course, that would be confusing.

Fleas arguing about a dog. You know, even spiders know when to quit.

Human hatred devoid of empathy seems to be some kind of meme. I wish sometimes the conversation would just turn towards just a bit of old time gospel.

Posted by: first and last at July 24, 2015 06:05 PM (1eYr7)

186 Half the racist tweets probably came from Oberlin College. You know, Lena Dunhams school.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 24, 2015 06:05 PM (Ii765)

187 "The traditional definition of racist where I come from is someone who takes a strong dislike up to, and including hate, of people of a different race than themselves."

You think that's the definition people are suing when they say that only white people can be racist?

Posted by: Jerome at July 24, 2015 06:06 PM (Opcdk)

188 Posted by: ace at July 24, 2015 06:00 PM (dciA+)

Ace, have you heard of /pol/ from the chans? This is basically their kind of thing.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 24, 2015 06:06 PM (shLnc)

189 "... this is what happens when the opposition party has not only failed to
present opposition but has intentionally refused to present opposition."

Straight to the heart of the matter.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2015 06:06 PM (noWW6)

190 AlFromBayShore:

Funny thing, one of the most liberal and I mean liberal lefty non non racist college professors I had, did an in-depth study about the end of Jim Crow and full integration and said that its effects were devastating to the black community.

I kid you not. I was shocked to even think like that. But you know what, he was absolutely right.

I'm not sure what that says, but it's a strange fact.

Posted by: prescient11 at July 24, 2015 06:07 PM (q5APL)

191 don't you dare attack neoreaction. it's done more than the republicans have ever done. neoreaction is the dismantling of the leftist worldview. And what do you have against lifting?

Posted by: Reactionary1 at July 24, 2015 06:07 PM (6M4WB)

192 I still think white-on-other racism is lower now that it ever has been in history, however I have seen some ugly racism and antisemitism in the past few months at some sites. It got bad enough to drive me off of Return of Kings and it's almost pushed me off of the Chateau entirely. (I now skip the comments section entirely. They're vile)

This is yet another reason to stay off twitter. A very small, vocal minority can throw scat all over the Twitterverse and, I got to say this again, Twitter is not reality. It's not even close to what real life is.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 24, 2015 06:07 PM (kdZ+0)

193 Also, I did a blog post a while ago about how people who say being anti illegal immigration is racist, are in fact, racist.
Because they are implying that brown people are incapable of following the rule of law.

Posted by: @votermom at July 24, 2015 06:07 PM (cbfNE)

194 Could Ii just make a request please, Ace. You have commented that you don't like people using "Fiing"(spelled out). Well, i don't particularly care for the term "fucking Christ". Nobody is fucking Christ. For those of us who believe in Him, He's a spirit; I just arrived. I get that you're angry, but since a high percentage of your readers are probably Christian is there some other term you could use, How about "f'ing marshmallows," F'ing Kewpee dolls" "f'ing placemats" or one or several of any other zillion nouns you could combine with "f'ing"?

Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 24, 2015 06:07 PM (OSs/l)

195 Meh.

Moby's gotta moby.

The best approach to racism is to mock it and marginalize it.

Gabe publicized a lynch mob of internet tools and through association made it seem like this was a conservative thing.

Gee.

Thanks.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 24, 2015 06:07 PM (cNtqS)

196 you lost me at heuristic

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 24, 2015 06:07 PM (0O7c5)

197 Meh, I deleted my Twitter because I got tired of crazies of all sort invading my timeline.

Posted by: Kenway at July 24, 2015 06:07 PM (XxZgW)

198 I hate Illinois Nazis.

Posted by: Jake at July 24, 2015 06:07 PM (j1Wvr)

199 http://bit.ly/1LDeZtj and http://bit.ly/1Mqdkq8 for some quality Bill Burr on this topic

Posted by: BacktoGA at July 24, 2015 06:07 PM (QxZCI)

200 >>>But I did address this: OF COURE there are actual racists in any movement, especially one that is seeking to reduce immigration by *another race*; which side do you THINK they'd be on?

Posted by: ace at July 24, 2015 06:02 PM (dciA+)>>>

I presume that you're not proposing we change our minds just because some assholes have an asshole-ish reason for agreeing with us? Or, that we're supposed to accept other assholes calling us racists because some asshole racists agree with us? What's your fucking point? That Gabe isn't as big an asshole that he appears to be? That's all I can figure.

Posted by: gm at July 24, 2015 06:07 PM (AjxJU)

201 174 AlFromBayShore

call "bullshit" and there is nothing I can do that,

No, I don't call bullshit at all. I just scroll on by.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at July 24, 2015 06:08 PM (l2Gqi)

202 i was just heuristic...i looked it up and learned it on my own.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 24, 2015 06:08 PM (0O7c5)

203 I thought Ace had made up the word "Cuckservative" in honor of Paolo, and I thought that was funny as hell....

Just a fucked-up coincidence that it's already some kind of white supremacist thing....

Stupid Nazis, they ruin everything!

Posted by: Dirty Randy at July 24, 2015 06:08 PM (xOu6p)

204 i dunno, it would seem if there are a large swathe of nazi types trying to connect themselves with conservatism we should perhaps just marginalize them.
we cannot be responsible for every swinging ugly dick out there.
much as the aa community cannot all be held accountable for OJ.
or all jews for soros.
all italians for mussolini
all chinese for mao
all germans for hitler.
If they want to think they are better by an accident of location and lineage nothing that they did for themselves btw . let them remain the ignorant assholes they are.
i prefer to take responsibilty for my Own personal ills. of which i have a few.

Posted by: willow at July 24, 2015 06:08 PM (nqBYe)

205
ace, not on social media so truly cannot understand the impact you speak of, but I don't doubt it, and don't hold your reaction against you - mine would be the same

My *emotional* reaction. But numbers, extent? See no reason to think the kooky white supremacists are anything more than they've always been, a fringe.

And let's not forget that what one keen British observer once called the strongest term of disapproval in America (uniquely in all the world, to his knowledge) - "racist" - has been hollowed out or even become inverted in its meaning (i.e. "racist" typically is used ONLY by actual racists, or race-baiters, same thing).

Posted by: rhomboid at July 24, 2015 06:08 PM (QDnY+)

206 is this large? No, but what it is, is LOUD; white supremacists had lately been quiet, feeling socially cowed, by and large, but now are finding their voice, and feeling their oats.
---

Sure, there's a vacuum out there right now caused by many politically engaged Americans having lost faith in their government and believing (largely correctly) that their representatives no longer represent them. So these folks who had been marginalized are stepping into that void, looking for new followers.

There are racists and bigots and sexists and every other manner of knuckle-dragging idiots everywhere on this planet and in this great country of ours. I don't deny that. It certainly appears as if some of these idiots have latched onto Trump, perhaps (and I'm giving Trump the benefit of the doubt here) misinterpreting his border statements as being a brand of nativism that they like.

But what I've seen this past week looks at least partially coordinated and designed to smear conservatives. For example, I've been seeing anti-Semites who appear to be latching onto Trump -- and as far as I can tell, most of the hardcore anti-Semitism (and anti-Israel) sentiment in this country is located on the Left. So that looks like an attempt to smear the GOP by making it seem as though one of their top-polling candidates (and certainly their most well-known candidate) is some sort of racist.

I'm just glad Twitter has a block button.

Posted by: Y-not at July 24, 2015 06:08 PM (RWGcK)

207 Wait a second, I go away to read Moe Lane and I come back to this TL;DR bait?

With luck I'll be back around comment 343 to opinionate.

Posted by: The Devoceleraptor (sometimes JEM) at July 24, 2015 06:09 PM (o+SC1)

208 /pol/ is leaking

Posted by: Boss Hog at July 24, 2015 06:09 PM (rHaCi)

209 I am a union craftsman here in the SF Bay Area California. I have been a conservative my entire life (47 years old). Be they white, black or brown, my "union brothers" are across the board dyed in the wool Dems/liberal/leftist. I thought, when I moved down here from Reno Nevada, that I was going to be amongst very racially tolerant people that got along being that this was Bay Area California. Boy did I live in a fucking bubble. I am not exaggerating, all of them are racist as hell. Bad enough the racism of non-caucasion inhabitants you live amongst around here when not at work. I'm very comfortable around fellow conservatives and our views on illegal-immigration. Never hear the racial BS around them like I do at work.

Posted by: JROD at July 24, 2015 06:09 PM (wnwJC)

210 187 You think that's the definition people are suing when they say that only white people can be racist?

Posted by: Jerome at July 24, 2015 06:06 PM (Opcdk)

No, but that is because the can't admit to being black racists who hate whites and asians.

Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 24, 2015 06:10 PM (GpgJl)

211 Hmm.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 24, 2015 06:10 PM (rwI+c)

212 "The interesting thing about Trump-mania is it has confirmed a helluva lotta suspicions of what really fuels anti-immigration movement."

what's that?

what a shit thing to say.

Just be glad the Nazi's never learned to tan because this is where normal folks start veering to what I think the cuckservatives are getting at.

We can't have a country because "we" are mostly white. or were white. And therefore...any control against what happens to be mostly non-white immigration is, you know, bad.

problematic.

As Annie C said, it's the same thing if a million Belgians were crossing the border every year. They aren't. They're doing the same dumbass shit of importing in way too many people.

there's 6 billion people on earth and about what 300M legacy americans?

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at July 24, 2015 06:10 PM (uhE1E)

213 Never thought much about racism until Barack Obama got elected. Now my head hurts from 6 years of it.

Posted by: wth at July 24, 2015 06:10 PM (wAQA5)

214 Ace didnt make up "cuckservative"

he made up "the Cuckmaker"

Posted by: ThunderB at July 24, 2015 06:11 PM (zOTsN)

215 And pretending that racism is not only restricted to whites only but also somehow WORSE when it is perpetrated by white people, is what the lefties do.

That is exactly what Gabe did/does/will continue to do.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 24, 2015 06:12 PM (cNtqS)

216 "Conservakin" is a better word anyway.

That is hilarious ... but I'm not sure how good it'd be with non-netizens.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 24, 2015 06:12 PM (0NdlF)

217 151
so now the meme is if you agree with trump you are storefront

well thats just awesome

Posted by: ThunderB at July 24, 2015 05:58 PM (zOTsN)

Worked so well the past 6.5 years, why abandon it?

Posted by: rebel flounder at July 24, 2015 06:12 PM (Vf5rR)

218 Ace: (Though, gotta admit, I feel a lot dirtier about being an immigration-restrictionist now than I did an hour ago.)

STOP THAT!!

That's what they WANT you to feel!!!!

Posted by: Dirty Randy at July 24, 2015 06:12 PM (xOu6p)

219 The idea that the alt-right uniformly supports Trump as Jeff B is implying (in order to smear two things he doesn't like) is a complete canard. Trumps foreign policy is way too bellicose for their liking. Same with the whispered "semi-respectable" aspersions. Gavin McIness or whatever his name writes for taki mag as does Mark Steyns friend Kathy Shaidle.

Like it or not (and I am at best ambivalent about it) the alt-right perspective of Pat Buchanan and Steve Sailer is likely to be the dominat stream of conservatism going forward. Free-trade hyper-interventionism is an exhausted force. It's going to be the popular alt-right vs the CoC going forward.

Posted by: Sam Haysom at July 24, 2015 06:12 PM (UtEx8)

220 Lots written about Bush sabotaging McCain in 2000 using dirty tricks.

Yeah lots of talk. No evidence. No proof, nothing ever to substantiate it. Although if there ever was a guy that had it coming...

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 06:12 PM (39g3+)

221

ace,

a lot of what you see apart from the hardcore "mud" spewers is the inevitable result of the left's race-consciousness. If you are going to be called racist for anything and everything, and put in that pigeon-hole, you will find some unsavory allies. The problem is that you are being shunted in there by the same animating anger that they feel---the Republican party has sold us out. "Us" being, inevitable, white males. What to do?

Sure, we denounce the actual racists (denigrating others on account of race is the laziest trolling in the history of ever), but at the same time, we're stuck seeing the same problems that were only hinted at when they went full-retard decades ago. We are now, unfortunately, stuck with this society that the left has degenerated to the point where if we object, we are lumoed in with teh crazies. It's a means of social control.

Ignore Gabe's hand-wringing, say clearly that you disagree with the actual racists, and prepare to be smeared anyway. Welcome to the other side of the looking glass.

Posted by: imp at July 24, 2015 06:12 PM (XIXZz)

222 @votermom

Where's your blog? Until AllenG gets one, I need something to read.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 24, 2015 06:13 PM (2lndx)

223 I'm not sure if you people are all racists, but you are most certainly morons.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at July 24, 2015 06:13 PM (l2Gqi)

224 so now the meme is if you agree with trump you are storefront

well thats just awesome

***

if the GOP takes up this idea...that we're evil for wanting to cut immigration, then maybe trump should go Perot because he'd win. No one will vote for the GOP candidate.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at July 24, 2015 06:13 PM (uhE1E)

225 I believe in cultural superiority. What does that make me? And is that a bad thing? Seriously.

Posted by: MattinIdaho at July 24, 2015 06:13 PM (SgYQy)

226 I think I've hit most of the sites that AlFromBayShore linked. Poked around that ugly side of the internet for awhile after seeing some links to one of them appear on the ONT one night.

That movement is definitely out there, but I see no evidence - after having wandered around that sad corner of the net for about a week - to see that this movement is anything more than a loud fringe.

Do I think they are capable of coordinated social media campaigns? Absolutely. Would the target Malor because he's gay? Absolutely. Hell, we target Malor around here frequently, but not because he's gay.

One thing I will say is that if you do decide to engage with some of these people, be warned - they are extremely well prepared, well-spoken and ready. Bring your A-game.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 24, 2015 06:13 PM (xSCb6)

227 Time for me to go back to my book

Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 24, 2015 06:14 PM (GpgJl)

228 Cuckservatives don't get a bucket of KFC and go to the lightshow at Stone Mountain.

Posted by: BacktoGA at July 24, 2015 06:14 PM (QxZCI)

229 it is annoying discussing this stuff bc there have been tons of anti-white crime, from a 4 person family being tortured to death in DC, to the baltimore riots targeting whites, to various knock out game victims.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at July 24, 2015 05:40 PM (uhE1E)
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Yeah, even if these twitter accounts are legit, it makes me wonder how many of these people would say racist things if the Left hadn't been so successful at stirring this shit up.

Posted by: SJW crying wolf at July 24, 2015 06:14 PM (E5UB0)

230 Gabe's tweet also comes in on the heels of the campaign of a certain candidate who has made a LOT of headway getting the border into the news by being bombastic without any racial overtones.

One might think that there was an agenda at work....

Posted by: some random meathead at July 24, 2015 06:14 PM (cNtqS)

231 i think its organic and its real and it will be used against people who have sincere concerns about the border regardless of race

and it would be really nice if "our" side didnt encourage it

Posted by: ThunderB at July 24, 2015 06:14 PM (zOTsN)

232 Ace: "I'm assuming the LA one was some kind of racecore nutter."

He shot up a Judd Apatow movie starring Amy Schumer.

If he was after nonwhites, he picked about as target-poor an environment as one is likely to find in your local multiplex.

Posted by: Alex at July 24, 2015 06:14 PM (7Yy8M)

233 Okay, well I read the amren piece and I read Matt Lewis's piece at DC Caller, and then I read the comments on Matt Lewis's piece. Yeah, it is explicitly pro-white. Not sure I can get on board with that.

Posted by: chemjeff not at Fapplebee's at July 24, 2015 06:15 PM (5p18q)

234 Take the GamerGate approach: We aren't racists, our goals are border security. We are not responsible for what racists do in our name. We don't control them, and we aren't going to go away because people call us racists.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 24, 2015 06:15 PM (shLnc)

235 and when I say encourage it I mean tar everyone else with the slur

Posted by: ThunderB at July 24, 2015 06:15 PM (zOTsN)

236 Is it still OK if I judge people by the content of their character?

Askin' for a friend.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 24, 2015 06:15 PM (VPLuQ)

237 Every tin-pot dictator needs the Enemy of the State. If they are insufficient in number or too restive, well, they can be prompted and poked.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 24, 2015 06:15 PM (oVJmc)

238 231
i think its organic and its real and it will be used against people who
have sincere concerns about the border regardless of race

and it would be really nice if "our" side didnt encourage it

Posted by: ThunderB

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Posted by: some random meathead at July 24, 2015 06:16 PM (cNtqS)

239 Because of how I was raised and the friends I grew up with I didn't think there was all that much racism. I thought it was mostly overblown.

But my niece, who is half black, would tell me stories of the various things that would happen to her and be said to her through high school and college and I was absolutely appalled by just how much racism is actually out there. It's shocking. Mostly harmless, some of it more malicious, but it is absolutely out there.

When you're not an overt racist yourself and you're not the target of that racism, you can get a very skewed idea of how prevalent it is.

Posted by: Tommy V at July 24, 2015 06:16 PM (NBoRH)

240 Gabe might have an easier time with the issue if he acknowledged a difference between immigration and ILLEGAL immigration.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 24, 2015 06:16 PM (oVJmc)

241 Who cares? IT's FUCKING TWITTER!

A more irrelevant element of human endeavor I cannot imagine.

Those who like to indulge, have at it, it's a free country. But in five years every single thing that has ever been 'tweeted' will be forever forgotten.

Posted by: West at July 24, 2015 06:16 PM (plqEG)

242 Don't you think it's just a natural reaction to the race issue constantly being brought up, and it constantly getting white privilege shoved in our faces every ten minutes?

Posted by: Auntie Doodles at July 24, 2015 06:16 PM (3HAXj)

243 I have only been here for a couple of years. If I insulted you old-timers I don't recognize, it's probably because I don't know you.
Of course, if I was trying to insult you and didn't, well that sucks.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at July 24, 2015 06:17 PM (l2Gqi)

244
if Gabe thinks that immigration or illegal immigration (separate issues) have anything to do with race, or more specifically anything to do with freak marginal types, then he's more out of touch than the Shah in the summer of 1978.

Clueless people equate smart, reasonable, unanswerably well-founded panic about the rule of law and the assorted ills of illegal immigration with "race".

Clueless, malevolent, irresponsible people seek to make this association for short-term political advantage (Graham's infamous and despicable "get the bigots out of the picture" comment).

Posted by: rhomboid at July 24, 2015 06:17 PM (QDnY+)

245 and... that was in my post? I assume you don't mean that, because that would be asinine.

But I did address this: OF COURE there are actual racists in any movement, especially one that is seeking to reduce immigration by *another race*; which side do you THINK they'd be on?

Posted by: ace at July 24, 2015 06:02 PM (dciA+)

To be fair, I think there are an awful lot of racists on the pro-immigration side trying to bring more of the other race here. That is not to say that there are not racist trying to keep them out as well

Posted by: Sambo at July 24, 2015 06:17 PM (vA1V9)

246 240
Gabe might have an easier time with the issue if he acknowledged a difference between immigration and ILLEGAL immigration.

Or immigrant vs non immigrant visas.

Or border jumper vs. visa overstay.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 24, 2015 06:18 PM (cNtqS)

247 Since my Grandfather came straight off the Tortilla Truck from Mexico (legally thank you very much),

and if the cuckservative thing is real.

I'd appreciate it all you HQ cuckservatives would demonstrate your subservience to my Hispanic self by

Buying me Lamborghini Veneno with a hidden champagne refrigerator full of Cristal, bitches.

Now...Chop, chop!

I'll take delivery on Tuesday.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 24, 2015 06:18 PM (0cMkb)

248 Don't you think it's just a natural reaction to the race issue constantly being brought up, and it constantly getting white privilege shoved in our faces every ten minutes?
***
I think it pushes both sides.

The non-whites feel more justified since they told whites are evil.

Whites can either begin to push back or buy into it.

Of course, pushing back is evil.

So buy into it or be evil.

thanks.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at July 24, 2015 06:18 PM (uhE1E)

249 Yeah- you don't have to be a white supremacist in order to agree they have some good points on amren. The fact is they're attacking the conservative movement (which has failed us thus far) so I'm willing to lend an ear. Same reason Trump is leading in the polls and he's an idiot

Posted by: BacktoGA at July 24, 2015 06:18 PM (QxZCI)

250 La Raza. Not racists I'm told

Posted by: ThunderB at July 24, 2015 06:18 PM (zOTsN)

251 A not inconsiderable number of people who's views you would find abhorrent probably agree with you in some areas of politics.So what.

Posted by: steevy at July 24, 2015 06:18 PM (sPO3u)

252 Given the way the left has triumphantly discussed the minoritization of whites in this country--and they explicitly target whites qua whites--you're going to have to expect a reaction from whites who will band together. I've personally moved into this camp (reluctantly) over the past decade. The idea that we're not supposed to see race only works if everyone agrees to it, but that's really not case now, is it? Every non-white group is not only not assimilating, but they are tribalizing themselves more and more. At what point do we need to do likewise? I don't want to go into full Stormfrontery, but on the other hand, the positions of the 80s and 90s are just not working--at all.

Posted by: Schaeffer at July 24, 2015 06:19 PM (FwOrP)

253 You know who is racist?

Sharks.

Why is it only white people getting attacked by sharks?

For the life of me, I can't recall ever seeing a minority being interviewed after the, 'Woman / Man Survived Shark Attack: Film at 11'.

And Discovery channel gives them an entire week!?

Posted by: Garrett at July 24, 2015 06:19 PM (S0Ca+)

254 I'm not sure if you people are all racists, but you are most certainly morons.
Posted by: JohnnyBoy

Everyone is racist. Once you acknowledge that, you don't tend to get your tits up over trivial foibles of human nature.

Or not.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2015 06:19 PM (VY8H5)

255 What Gabe did with that tweet was bullshit, however. That's why people were bitching about it. It was a typical SJW move.

In any event, has anyone looked at the internals of that YouGov poll, in which Trump is now at 28%.

That number is not what stuck with me. What stuck with me is the number of who will be the likely nominee. A full 36% say Jeb Bush. 11% say Scott Walker. Right behind him, the Donald himself, 10%.

Everyone else falls off, nowhere close.

I keep asking, WHO IN THE FUCK IS VOTING FOR THE JEBSTER???? Are we all taking crazy pills!!!???

Posted by: prescient11 at July 24, 2015 06:19 PM (q5APL)

256 "what fuels..."

What you're calling leftism is really over-liberalism which doesn't stop at judging people's actions but has to burrow into their 'motivations'. The day the US polity crossed the line into mind-reading was opening Pandora's box.

We should not care what 'fuels' an issue if the issue is practical and for the long-term good.

Posted by: bruce at July 24, 2015 06:19 PM (aN8qS)

257 Gamergate is a red herring that was an attempt by a cobbled together group of low level left-wing activist to throw their weight around. The left-wingers that matter didn't care. When the left cares about something you get the full court press not angry posts on reddit and jezzebel. If the left had wanted to enforce PC on video games gamergste would have been a rout.

Posted by: Sam Haysom at July 24, 2015 06:20 PM (UtEx8)

258 Buying me Lamborghini Veneno with a hidden champagne refrigerator full of Cristal, bitches.

Now...Chop, chop!

I'll take delivery on Tuesday.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 24, 2015 06:18 PM (0cMkb)
You want a Lamborghini
You'll settle for an Audi
You'll get an El Camino

Posted by: chemjeff not at Fapplebee's at July 24, 2015 06:20 PM (5p18q)

259 Obama has empowered the racists on all sides.

Posted by: steevy at July 24, 2015 06:20 PM (sPO3u)

260 To be fair, I think there are an awful lot of racists on the pro-immigration side trying to bring more of the other race here. That is not to say that there are not racist trying to keep them out as well
***
sure.
Also, the left wants to swell USA's population enough to dilute the libertarian garbage that refuses to go along with their progressivism. You know, the natural historical cultural markers of being a legacy american.

they get a million a year plus the illegals to do it.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at July 24, 2015 06:20 PM (uhE1E)

261 You'll get an El Camino

Posted by: chemjeff not at Fapplebee's at July 24, 2015 06:20 PM (5p18q)

i want an el camino!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 24, 2015 06:20 PM (0O7c5)

262 I've had occasion to visit the 'Loving Wives' section of Litererotica -- where the cuckold theme is present. It only takes a few minutes of detective work to figure out that the guy with orange colored skin that shares his ten inches of manhood with the bored housewife -- also is orange colored.

Wish fulfillment, fantasy, whatever. It's not reality.

But the 'Age of Obama' has never been about reality. Only the Boners and Bitch McDonald's have failed to grasp that reality.

Posted by: se pa moron at July 24, 2015 06:21 PM (xQX/f)

263 I keep asking, WHO IN THE FUCK IS VOTING FOR THE JEBSTER???? Are we all taking crazy pills!!!???

Posted by: prescient11 at July 24, 2015 06:19 PM (q5APL)
Well I think that is due to many people think he is "inevitable" even if they won't vote for him.

Posted by: chemjeff not at Fapplebee's at July 24, 2015 06:21 PM (5p18q)

264 OF COURE there are actual racists in any movement, especially one that is seeking to reduce immigration by *another race*; which side do you THINK they'd be on?

Sure and this is always what bothered me about the Tea Party stuff. The core and primary intent of the movement had always been about smaller government and frustration with huge bailouts of cronies, but any time a group gathers, some jackwagons are going to show up and wave their stupid flag around. And naturally, every news camera on earth pointed at them.

Sure, the entire movement of occupy from top to bottom was filled with lunatics, scumbags, and filth, but the right has one weirdo come by and that's all anyone talks about.

This is the drawback of the big tent: you get freaks under the canopy, too. The best you can do is try to keep them from having any voice or power.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 06:21 PM (39g3+)

265 It was inevitable that they would show their hand once it became acceptable to hound people for simply insisting that all lives matter.

As to illegal immigration, if you won't stop it on economic and national security grounds some other objection will rise.

As Ace has said, this can all be sheeted home to our MSM who will not do their job.

Posted by: Decaf at July 24, 2015 06:21 PM (xm2dE)

266
Dude. You are being a played. Gaslighted.
"It came out of nowhere and it came all at once." Sockpuppets my friend, sock-fucking-puppets. I willbet a solid $100that most, if not all of this sudden campaign out of nowhere is SJW and progressive types faking the bullshit to ensnare people not payingattention.It is a more advanced form of concern trolling.

Great way to discredit you - link a bunch of racist and offensive crap to your website/twitter feed/movement. better still, adopt a name other people are already using, so it LOOKS like they were part of it.
I mean, seriously, does anyone think there is REALLY an upsurge of white racism afoot? REALLY?

Dylan Roof was the guy the left has been hoping for, praying for, trying to provoke in every way possible. Now that he has arrived, they are going to go full court to smear and condemn every conservative they can. They will push, shove, insult, till they get a response.

Posted by: Geroge Orwell's ghost at July 24, 2015 06:21 PM (HuVX+)

267 I just assume everything on Twitter is fake.

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 24, 2015 06:21 PM (UypUQ)

268 You want a Lamborghini
You'll settle for an Audi
You'll get an El Camino
Posted by: chemjeff not at Fapplebee's at July 24, 2015 06:20 PM (5p18q)

Oooh! I can use that in my lawn mowing business.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 24, 2015 06:22 PM (0cMkb)

269 and the illegals who are here illegally are here because it's worth the trouble being here. Even before they get guilt bennies like in-state tuition and both Vichy parties vying for their votes. Because they come from shit holes.

That they're of a different race is irrelevant.

We're full.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at July 24, 2015 06:22 PM (uhE1E)

270 Actually, it's not just MSM who are not doing their job, there is the president, Congress and the courts. Nothing seems to be working.

Posted by: Decaf at July 24, 2015 06:22 PM (xm2dE)

271 I just assume everything on Twitter is fake.
Posted by: Serious Cat

SAFE!

Posted by: Internet Umpire at July 24, 2015 06:22 PM (VY8H5)

272 i want an el camino!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 24, 2015 06:20 PM (0O7c5)
Okay, here ya go
http://tinyurl.com/p5z5ppq

Posted by: chemjeff not at Fapplebee's at July 24, 2015 06:22 PM (5p18q)

273 dylan roof was wearing a gold's gym shirt in the picture with the rebel flag.....and he was CAMPING.....BAN IT ALL MOTHER FUCKERS

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 24, 2015 06:22 PM (0O7c5)

274 257 Gamergate is a red herring that was an attempt by a cobbled together group of low level left-wing activist to throw their weight around.

Couldn't disagree more. There's big money in gaming. Intel gave 600 million to SJW nonsense in gaming and tech.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 24, 2015 06:22 PM (shLnc)

275 >>white supremacists than I previously acknowledged, and am currently up in the air as to whether to dismiss this solely as a fringe-of-the-fringe phenomenon

ace, I'm sure it has been said, but "twitter mobs" are a well known phenomena.

It's probably only a handful of people, using a tons of different proxies / IPs / twitter accounts / etc. and it could very well be #blacklivesmatter people trying to bring #awareness to #whiteprivilege .

Or it could be real racists, but I wouldnt use twitter to gauge how big a "movement" is.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 24, 2015 06:23 PM (AkOaV)

276 La Raza. Not racists I'm told

Look, unless a white person does it, it's not "racist". The word may have some historic meaning to some of you who still respect using words as if they had meanings ... but the word has been weaponized into something else.

Not white, by the way.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 24, 2015 06:23 PM (0NdlF)

277 >>> i want an el camino!!!!

You'll take a 1988 Econoline

You'll get a bus pass

Posted by: fluffy at July 24, 2015 06:23 PM (2iV3X)

278 I am a cuckservative

Posted by: BushRubioKasichHuckWalker at July 24, 2015 06:23 PM (QxZCI)

279 Ace, this screams false flag.
You know how many nooses have been thrown around campus by actual racists in the last 2 decades only to have the left go into vapors about the rising specter of radical racism? 0.0
Posted by: brainpimp at July 24, 2015 06:04 PM (zosQc)

This sounds like Alinsky - on acid.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at July 24, 2015 06:23 PM (BZAd3)

280 "You want a Lamborghini
You'll settle for an Audi
You'll get an El Camino"

Damn straight I would settle for the El Camino.

Used to have a 68 with a 4 bolt 350.

Smoked 'em through all three gears, and could still bust 'em loose downshifting onto the interstate ramp at 50mph.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 24, 2015 06:24 PM (VPLuQ)

281 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 24, 2015 06:07 PM (kdZ+0)

This is what a "Big Tent" actually looks like. Return of Kings and other blogs like it are forums where there are the free exchange of ideas. This is profoundly different from what happens among the SJWs who have a penchant for suppressing ideas they find disagreeable. There is nothing wrong with a "Big Tent" because it is a marketplace of ideas and each of those ideas compete with one another for both legitimacy and validity. In this "Big Tent" I, a Black person, have found both disagreement and agreement with the White Nationalists and, in most cases, the disagreement was civil and intellectually honest.

We are at a cross roads and I don't mean shifting political power in a governing system where competing factions vie for power. Instead, two things are afoot, a serious intrafactional dispute that carries a potential existential threat to the party where the dispute is occurring AND the idea that this "Great American Experiment" promoted by the Federalists is being seen as a failure.

John Yoo, in an interview, raised questions about the success of the Reagan Revolution. While I do not remember the entirety of his commentary, I thought to myself that the Reagan Revolution failed because this "Great American Experiment" failed. The break between Madison and Hamilton was just one of the many canaries that would die in this coal mine.

Posted by: AlFromBayShore at July 24, 2015 06:24 PM (H7qBA)

282 I think the age-old wisdom of the Founding Fathers applies here:

Not every thing is as good as it seems on Facebook, nor as bad as it seems on Twitter.

SJS Vol. IV

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 24, 2015 06:24 PM (xSCb6)

283 I've had occasion to visit the 'Loving Wives' section of Litererotica -- where the cuckold theme is present.

Most of literotica made my soul hurt.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 24, 2015 06:24 PM (shLnc)

284 It's also not insignificant that Ace lives in one of the few cities in Ameica that is actually getting whiter each year. If everyone had the protection of the nations most aggressive police force and insulation from demographic trends then I imagine even these benighted alt-righters might be able to match Ace's devil may care attitude.

Posted by: Sam Haysom at July 24, 2015 06:24 PM (UtEx8)

285 I gotta say something. I never identify myself as "white." What I mean by that is that I never think, "I'm proud to be white" or "It's great to be with fellow whites" or stuff like that. I just don't.

I self-ID as conservative or as a scientist or as Catholic or as a freckled person or as someone with Irish ancestry, but never as white. I currently live in a very white state, and I have previously lived in Vermont (also, very white), and in all honesty I'm more comfortable in a more racially diverse community, simply because that's what I grew up in way back when.

If people are proud of their heritage, good for them. But I honestly don't get being proud of your skin tone.

Posted by: Y-not at July 24, 2015 06:24 PM (RWGcK)

286 I keep asking, WHO IN THE FUCK IS VOTING FOR THE JEBSTER???? Are we all taking crazy pills!!!???

Slow down. Put the coffee cup down. Relax. Its July 2015. Nobody is voting for Jeb. Nobody. There's no election yet. Not a single person has voted for him since 2003.

If the left had wanted to enforce PC on video games gamergste would have been a rout.

Not hardly. They went up against a group of people who for a hobby battle against people over and over and over again, for hours every day. They went up against people without quit or backing down in them. They lost because their opponents didn't just cave.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 06:25 PM (39g3+)

287 It was inevitable that they would show their hand once it became acceptable to hound people for simply insisting that all lives matter.

Pretty much.

Race-blind equality was killed by the left's racism. What we see now is a reactionary racism according to the rules of the game the left put into place.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 24, 2015 06:25 PM (0NdlF)

288 Presione dos para Inglés

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 24, 2015 06:26 PM (rwI+c)

289
Who cares? IT's FUCKING TWITTER!

A more irrelevant element of human endeavor I cannot imagine.

Those who like to indulge, have at it, it's a free country. But in five years every single thing that has ever been 'tweeted' will be forever forgotten.
Posted by: West at July 24, 2015 06:16 PM (plqEG)
...............................
Iwewwivant?

Posted by: Tweety Pie at July 24, 2015 06:26 PM (wAQA5)

290 With no branch of government doing its job we will get anarchy and we probably have it now we just don't recognize it as such since it's not the usual Euro style anarchy. Nevertheless laws are not being made that will work let alone enforcing the old ones that worked.

Posted by: Decaf at July 24, 2015 06:26 PM (xm2dE)

291 I do know that on the local Baltimore rag, the comments have gotten ridiculously anti-black.

I'm not talking discussion of the lack of diversity in both victims and shooters.

I'm talking every racist code word and spelling work around to be able to refer to blacks as anything besides black.

And it continues to increase.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 24, 2015 06:26 PM (VPLuQ)

292 I want to echo Jeff B in 102.

A long time ago in a place far from here, I was a moderator at Free Republic. In fact, for a good amount of time, I was the lead moderator.

I was brought in as a moderator specifically to weed out these assholes. There are tons of them. Some were lefties, but most were not.

And they are a nasty bunch when you get on their bad side.

We need to recognize this, and deal with it. Not merely because they are politically inconvenient to us because we get slimed by association (despite not choosing to associate with them), but because they are a bunch of pricks who embrace a disturbing and evil mindset.

Fuck them.

Posted by: Former FR moderator at July 24, 2015 06:27 PM (EG1ig)

293
Most of literotica made my soul hurt.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 24, 2015 06:24 PM (shLnc)

You're not doing it right.

Posted by: Captain Fapp at July 24, 2015 06:27 PM (WZQdF)

294 "You want a Lamborghini
You'll settle for an Audi
You'll get an El Camino"

Damn straight I would settle for the El Camino.

You want an El Camino.
You'll settle for a Ranchero.

You'll get a Subaru Brat.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 06:27 PM (39g3+)

295
As to illegal immigration, if you won't stop it on economic and national security grounds some other objection will rise.

As Ace has said, this can all be sheeted home to our MSM who will not do their job.

And our government, that deliberately ignores its own laws and requirements in favor of doing things for the political classes.

It's lawless, and it's a symbol of a country in decline, where the law is ignored and corruption lines powerful pockets.

That, alone, is a reason to be against illegal aliens.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 24, 2015 06:27 PM (oVJmc)

296 If the left had wanted to enforce PC on video games gamergste would have been a rout.

The Left is hollow men. They have power because we live in fear and we love comfort and we don't embrace the truth.

#GamerGate has shown a path to victory - and we can start by using the same tactics against Planned Parenthood.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 24, 2015 06:27 PM (0NdlF)

297 There are always people who - sensing the winds of change - use that as an opportunity to brew up a storm. They just like to see the world burn.

Posted by: An Observation at July 24, 2015 06:28 PM (VUiYn)

298 Gabe should avoid falling into the following fallacy: just because you *suspect* that someone has a bad motivation for doing the *right* thing, that doesn't mean that you need to force them to do the *wrong* thing, as if that were some sort of penance.

It would be like if a cop yanked a man who is assaulting an 80 year old lady by the collar and throws him to the ground. The mugger then says, "I'll bet you just do this stuff because you enjoy pushing people around". Should the officer say, "Maybe you're right. I'll be totally pacifistic. Carry on with what you were doing".

You can't use *speculation* about people's (or your own) motives as an excuse to not do the right thing.

Posted by: SJW crying wolf at July 24, 2015 06:28 PM (E5UB0)

299
You want an El Camino
You'd settle for a Prius
You'll get a Spark EV

Posted by: wth at July 24, 2015 06:28 PM (wAQA5)

300 The left spent 100 times the time and energy fighting the confederate flag as they did gamergate. Honestly if ace of spades didn't have a huge nerd contingent I wouldn't even have known it was happening. Meanwhile every single left wing organization in American dedicated itself for two weeks to taking the flag down.

Posted by: Sam Haysom at July 24, 2015 06:28 PM (UtEx8)

301 I am continually amazed at the number of very smart conservatives who seem to think there are only three or four racists who consider themselves staunch conservatives/republicans. There are a LOT. Not a majority of the Big Tent coalition by any means, but enough, and I agree with Ace--this argument needs to be had and political parties broken.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 24, 2015 06:29 PM (VAsIq)

302 The ROK cuckservative article annoyed me so much I deleted the bookmark.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at July 24, 2015 06:29 PM (zauWW)

303 I gotta say something. I never identify myself as "white." What I mean by that is that I never think, "I'm proud to be white" or "It's great to be with fellow whites" or stuff like that. I just don't.

The Left and its associated allies very much identify you as white, your good feelings notwithstanding.

Posted by: Schaeffer at July 24, 2015 06:29 PM (FwOrP)

304 I'm not big on the Twitter thing, but would it be fair to say that a lot of these people are the same white nationalists that supported Paul in '08 and '12?

If so, some might be plants, but most are probably just fringe "right"-wingers trying to mainstream their very out of the mainstream views on race by tying it to the amnesty/immigration debate.

Posted by: MidGeorgian at July 24, 2015 06:30 PM (d9kFb)

305 What I fear most is that people who are indifferent on race will get pushed into being anti-black by the "wilding" and "knockout game" and "black lives matter" trash out there. The guys who invade every single topic on any social media site with how evil white people are. The obnoxious twits who spew "white privilege" all over everyone. Basically, I worry that the pushback will be evil. That I would hate to see, because America was pretty colorblind in 2007.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 06:30 PM (39g3+)

306 YouGov poll shows Ben Carson supporters are very solid.

Trump must get Carson's support I think. Meanwhile, Huckster's support has collapsed, as has Rubio's, as has Paul's.

Carson and Cruz's numbers have been steady.

Posted by: prescient11 at July 24, 2015 06:30 PM (q5APL)

307 #GamerGate has shown a path to victory - and we can start by using the same tactics against Planned Parenthood.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster

Tea-bagging?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 24, 2015 06:30 PM (VAsIq)

308
You want a Spark EV
You'd settle for a moped
You'll get high speed rail

Posted by: wth at July 24, 2015 06:31 PM (wAQA5)

309 Good.

Let the hate flow through you.

Posted by: Darth Jeb at July 24, 2015 06:31 PM (cNtqS)

310 I wouldnt use twitter to gauge how big a "movement" is.

Try IMAX for mine. Whhooooo!!

Posted by: Brian Dennehy at July 24, 2015 06:31 PM (JO9+V)

311 >>> The Left and its associated allies very much identify you as white

You mean I'm going to stay this way?!

Posted by: fluffy at July 24, 2015 06:31 PM (2iV3X)

312 y not

great point.....i think most people think that way...

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 24, 2015 06:31 PM (0O7c5)

313 Does anybody else find it disturbing that Barry Obama comes from an entire family of Kenyan bastard children?

It must have been the custom at the time, you know, a cultural thing.

Posted by: Fritz at July 24, 2015 06:32 PM (o/UmK)

314
Poor goats! It's been raining all day. They have activated their laser vision early:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/goatslive

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2015 06:32 PM (iQIUe)

315 The Left and its associated allies very much identify you as white, your good feelings notwithstanding.
Posted by: Schaeffer at July 24, 2015 06:29 PM (FwOrP)
--

I'm not talking about politics or laws or anything like that. I mean how I think of myself and how I think of (and treat) other people.

Posted by: Y-not at July 24, 2015 06:32 PM (RWGcK)

316
You want high speed rail
You'd settle for BART
You'll get new tennis shoes

Posted by: wth at July 24, 2015 06:32 PM (wAQA5)

317 The Left and its associated allies very much identify you as white, your good feelings notwithstanding.

On a related note, German Jews felt they were very German.

Only takes one side to start a race war.

Now, has the Left started a race war?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 24, 2015 06:32 PM (0NdlF)

318 Could it be that certain people are feeling so marginalized that they act out on Twitter by saying stupid off the cuff shit that they might not really mean? The left does this all the time which is why Twitchy is so popular. I've been divorced and during the time I was married I've lost my shit and said mean things that I immediately regretted and apologized for. An overwhelming number of people are really pissed at what's going on in this country and use rhetoric because that's all know. What we should fear is when the rhetoric ends and the violence begins.

Posted by: LIV is the place 2B at July 24, 2015 06:33 PM (kjqdN)

319 Take the GamerGate approach: We aren't racists, our goals are border security.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 24, 2015 06:15 PM (shLnc)

Right! When we say "border security", we don't mean "for us whiteys", we mean for every LEGAL citizen of our country!

Posted by: Dirty Randy at July 24, 2015 06:33 PM (xOu6p)

320
This tse coates guy or how ever he spells his name, it sounds like Hetch Hetchy, as in the Hetch Hetchy damn.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2015 06:33 PM (iQIUe)

321 You want new tennis shoes
You'll settle for sneakers
You'll get flip flops

Posted by: chemjeff not at Fapplebee's at July 24, 2015 06:33 PM (5p18q)

322 Have you ever heard "Monica's"?

Clue: it is racial.

Posted by: nip at July 24, 2015 06:33 PM (a6Odp)

323 314
Poor goats!
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/goats-live

Accidental goat pr0n

Posted by: fluffy at July 24, 2015 06:33 PM (2iV3X)

324 "You mean I'm going to stay this way?!"

Not necessarily, call me.

Posted by: Rachel Dolezal, denier of pallor at July 24, 2015 06:33 PM (VPLuQ)

325 You want high speed rail
You'd settle for BART
You'll get new tennis shoes

Posted by: wth

You want new tennis shoes
You'd settle for used and broken in
You'll get Crocs

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 24, 2015 06:34 PM (VAsIq)

326

Basically, I worry that the pushback will be evil. That I would hate to see, because America was pretty colorblind in 2007.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor

CT, my fellow Oregonian, the pushback is going to be hell, but not for us.

THere is going to be pushback, and you are seeing it now. In stressful times/situations, we fall back on kin groups, meaning race in the macro sense. That's why you have lots of racial gangs in prison and very few ecumentical ones. We trust ourselves and those who look like us.

Figures it would take a Black Leftist President to instigate the RAHOWA that the Aryan supremacist creeps have been drooling over for 40 years.

Posted by: imp at July 24, 2015 06:34 PM (XIXZz)

327 I did not know there were so many white supremacists (though, I have to say, of course, there were only about six buzzing at my face, but it's more I've ever seen at the same time),
***
Isn't most of the SJW shit from a handful of twitter idiots? What makes you think this is any different?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 24, 2015 06:34 PM (5LOno)

328 Obama is president with the explicit support of the KKK. Their thinking is "Eight years of this guy and everyone will decide we're right about race."

The vast majority of people making these kinds of noises are KKK types, and are ardent Democrats - who are attempting to stop Trump by being his vocal "base". It is just another Progressive - big lie - smear campaign.

Don't forget who the real racists are.

Posted by: An Observation at July 24, 2015 06:34 PM (VUiYn)

329 The left spent 100 times the time and energy fighting the confederate flag as they did gamergate.

Its more like this: the left saw weakness and give on CBF issue, and pushed louder and harder. Don't give, and they are soon squirreled onto another topic.

About racism on the right; actually the few I've interacted with, the few really bigoted people, have been not very conservative at all beyond some basic "rah rah, flag and apple pie" basics. They love welfare and food stamps - and usually are on them - their problem with big government is that they think the Joo is in charge, they love farm subsidies, and they're only really fiscally conservative when it comes to their taxes.

These guys aren't really conservative at all. They only attachment they had to the Tea Party was that someone said TEA stood for "taxed enough already" when the origins and core had nothing to do with taxes at all.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 06:34 PM (39g3+)

330 I've been trying to sleep all afternoon and just saw this.

What the fuck is ace talking about?

Posted by: Blano at July 24, 2015 06:34 PM (NHQQx)

331
HOLD YOUR BREATH, ACE!!!

Dont inhale!!!!1!!!!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2015 06:34 PM (iQIUe)

332 I am continually amazed at the number of very smart conservatives who
seem to think there are only three or four racists who consider
themselves staunch conservatives/republicans. There are a LOT.

Is the racism of 'I don't want to be near them' worse than the racism of the Left, which is based on the idea that People X are inherently stupid and they must live their lives for them?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 24, 2015 06:34 PM (oVJmc)

333 Tea-bagging?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 24, 2015 06:30 PM (VAsIq)

Calm and polite emails to funding sources, asking if the responsible corporation agrees with the foaming-at-the-mouth views of the leftists they are giving money to.

Gawker lost 6 figures of advertising revenue due to their behavior against gamers in #GamerGate.

Planned Parenthood has started removing corporate donor names from its website. This is only the beginning.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 24, 2015 06:35 PM (0NdlF)

334 I'm tired of all this talk about Nazis being non-inclusive. Why, we got us a Mexican Nazi Party right here in Hondo Texas.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at July 24, 2015 06:35 PM (foEOh)

335 Posted by: prescient11 at July 24, 2015 06:07 PM (q5APL)

There's a book from Thomas Sowell that covers this to some extent, although he's more focused on the destructive force of the Great Society.

Blacks might have been separated due to formal and informal segregation, but they had their own economic structures. They had jobs, owned their own homes, educated their children, etc. The Great Society destroyed most of it. Sowell has the numbers to prove it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 24, 2015 06:35 PM (oFCZn)

336 We do know that the bullshit push for immigration reform is a mixture of obtaining a new voting/welfare class/cheap labor source.

We also know that virtually every candidate (including trump until very recently) were kissing amnesty's ass.

We also know that trump has changed his tune and he is scoring big.AND underscoring the divide between the peasantry and their Betters.

We also know that the MFM has flat out lied repeatedly and tried to claim that trump is plain racist against mexicans.

And we know that it's not working very well.

And then this rears its ugly head, along with Gabe (that paragon of truth) seemingly dovetailing with the theme of the MFM.

Not buying it. RS McCain has done good work int the past on sifting through twitter and other social media accounts.

I for one refuse to be buffaloed by what may well be a repeat of the CBF horseshit.

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 24, 2015 06:35 PM (VFjhH)

337 IOW the MSM now has the stick with which it will beat on Trump.

Nice. He isn't known as a racist. I guess it'll be interesting to see how he responds.

If it works, let's be sure to immediately link him back to Hillary, hmm?

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 24, 2015 06:36 PM (Cq0oW)

338 The left spent 100 times the time and energy fighting the confederate flag as they did gamergate

A good portion of the right fought the conservative flag too - that was the problem. Thank Mitt Romney and Nikki Haley.

GamerGate got games with the confederate flag in it put back on the iphone. The only place it got protected was in games and by gamers.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 24, 2015 06:36 PM (shLnc)

339 I'm not talking about politics or laws or anything like that. I mean how I think of myself and how I think of (and treat) other people.

Well, enjoy that white privilege while you can.

Posted by: Schaeffer at July 24, 2015 06:36 PM (FwOrP)

340 As I said in an earlier thread,the left lets out their inner racist whenever a person of color doesn't hold the approved ciews.See. Clarence Thomas,Herman Cain,Condaleeza Rice etc.Also nasty as hell to gays who don't toe their line,women,you name it.

Posted by: steevy at July 24, 2015 06:36 PM (sPO3u)

341 "What makes it really annoying is that the Social Race Warriors are using
many tactics of the Social Justice Warriors -- swarming, attempting to
pressure by dogpiling, argument-by-insult, etc."

Like it or not, those tactics work,and work quite well, so why wouldn't they use them?

As far as there being white supremacists on the "anti-" side of the debate, so what? There are very hardcore racist groups on the other side, as well. It's just that the racists on "pro" side are deemed "good" (read: anti-white) racists, i.e., not really racist-racists, and the racists on the "anti" side are "bad" (read: pro-white) ones. If a position is discredited solely on the basis that some people with racially-motivated beliefs support it, then there is probably no viable position on the immigration issue (or any other issue, for that matter).

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at July 24, 2015 06:37 PM (amQXf)

342 Confederate flag, not conservative flag.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 24, 2015 06:37 PM (shLnc)

343 I am continually amazed at the number of very smart conservatives who
seem to think there are only three or four racists who consider
themselves staunch conservatives/republicans. There are a LOT.
--

There are racists (and sexists and other types of bigots) in both parties. That's not denial about racists etc in the GOP, but just decades of experience working and living in liberal enclaves.

Posted by: Y-not at July 24, 2015 06:37 PM (RWGcK)

344 You will be made to care.

Posted by: Grump928(C) envisions a boot, stamping on a human face forever at July 24, 2015 06:38 PM (rwI+c)

345 Newsflash: We have obtained a TANG memo which conclusively proves that we're right and that the peasants should shut up.

As soon as the ink dries on this 1972 memo, we will release it.....to Hillary's e-mail server.

Posted by: CBS at July 24, 2015 06:38 PM (VFjhH)

346 Well, it isn't as if, as conservatives, we aren't used to being called names. You can expect the MFM and left will try to paint us as neo-Nazi filth while they ignore Farrakhan and the Black Panthers.

This is out of Alinsky's playbook. We're the frozen target, and now will be demonized and othered, and they will use that to take down Trump.

I'd say this was false flag, but it likely isn't. There are racists who identify with the progressive and conservative movements both, and these are probably assclowns who identify as conservatives. Given the long association of the Democratic party with KKK (cough Byrd cough), these particular folks should have probably chosen a different with which to identify.

Posted by: Agent J at July 24, 2015 06:38 PM (ueOgE)

347
Regarding amnesty every thing thy swear they will do they wont. There are so many loopholes, its a joke. Bottom line is that all laws are useless if they are not enforced and they have made it clear that they will never enforce them.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2015 06:38 PM (iQIUe)

348 Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 24, 2015 06:29 PM (VAsIq)

Fvck that.

How many are "a LOT"? No one is saying it's only 3 or 4. We're saying it's a fringe. Until I see some credible evidence - other than "trust me, I'm in the know" - that this is some large minority of conservatives, I'm going to continue to dismiss them as fringe.

You really think the Left doesn't run false flag operations? My God, look at the rape hoaxes, the hate crime hoaxes, the prosecutorial misconduct run amok. This shit is out in the open.

And so now we have to bow to concern trolling because of a fringe bunch of whack jobs are claiming some sort of silent majority? Are we expected to do like the rest of the GOP candidates and march to the beat of the Democrat drum in denouncing these clowns?

Fvck that.

Do you see the Donks distancing themselves from NAMBLA even though they all openly support the Democrat party? Of course not.

But here we are, going on the defense...yet again.

Fvck that.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 24, 2015 06:38 PM (xSCb6)

349 We ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get back, when brown can stick around, when yellow will be mellow, when the red man can get ahead, man, and when white will embrace what is right.

Posted by: Joe Bob Lowery at July 24, 2015 06:39 PM (W5DcG)

350 Could it be that certain people are feeling so marginalized that they act out on Twitter by saying stupid off the cuff shit that they might not really mean?

Many a foreigner has stated that the US is the least racist place in the world.

Judging on that behavior, your average fellow American is not a racist.

If we could quit the pushing, I think we could have a peaceful coexistence ... but the Left won't quit causing division until they are crushed. I prefer that happens politically, with words ... because the alternative is not Nice.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 24, 2015 06:39 PM (0NdlF)

351

Sulla, Cataline, the Gacchis, and Caesar all played to the disaffected working class. Someone more qualified than Trump will appear in the next decade, and God help us all when that happens.

Posted by: imp at July 24, 2015 06:39 PM (XIXZz)

352 This is not new, and probably not a false flag. This is the convergence of Stormfront, neoreaction, HBD, redpill, et al., flaring up like shingles. If unchecked, it will kill any hope of immigration reform and put serious pressure on 2nd amendment rights.

Posted by: Lukas at July 24, 2015 06:39 PM (o/rLb)

353 [I am continually amazed at the number of very smart conservatives who

seem to think there are only three or four racists who consider

themselves staunch conservatives/republicans.

You sound just like Eric Holder.

Quit kidding yourself. Human nature hasn't changed in thousands of years and your deeply heartfelt outreach effort is not going to change what Obama and his racist administration have been fomenting for over 8 years.

Gabe did what he did and the damage is done.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 24, 2015 06:39 PM (cNtqS)

354 It takes my village to raise awareness about racism.

Posted by: Potemkin at July 24, 2015 06:39 PM (VFjhH)

355 No one is more racist than the Democrat Party.

No person is more racist than Barack Obama.

No group of people are more racist than the liberal, group think black people who belong to such groups a BlackLivesMatter or the NAALCP.

Everyone gets a pass until the above are publicly shamed.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 24, 2015 06:40 PM (JG47A)

356 I continually amazed that people don't recognize that this will be used to smear all of us and to get the LIV voter to select the most pro amnesty open border candidate possible all in an effort to demonstrate just how not racist they are. Just like voting for President Historic First

Posted by: ThunderB at July 24, 2015 06:40 PM (zOTsN)

357
Way late here, can't read all the comments so I will ask:

Never heard the "muds" before, is that short for something?

2nd, is it possible those twitter WS were not actual WS but the same as the people who claimed a noose was hung, but we find out it was a hoax to get peoples' ire up?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 24, 2015 06:40 PM (ODxAs)

358 It's been an issue since Pat Buchanan days. He is the first guy I heard use the phrase "the browning of America" and I thought shit you can't say that about immigration if you don't want to sound racist. And when someone as white as Ann Coulter says it - as I heard her say today on the radio - well. It is just hard to say no she's not racist she's against illegal immigration. Except of course she is also against LEGAL immigration. No shit.

And if you want some real cognitive dissonance watch the scene from American History X where Ed Norton gives the motivational speech to the skinheads. And he sounds like, I dunno, Bobby Jindal for example. What he says is not extreme in any way and he's a skinhead and I know the director wanted you to feel bad about being anti illegal immigration but you know what those guys are saying those things, too.

Because there is some overlap. Which is unhelpful but the it is.

So there is a distance you have to set. But also, make the Dim effers own up to their fringe who run the damn party.

Posted by: blaster at July 24, 2015 06:40 PM (2Ocf1)

359 Well, enjoy that white privilege while you can.
Posted by: Schaeffer at July 24, 2015 06:36 PM (FwOrP)
---

Meh. Your point about the Left invoking white privilege was made the first time.

There are many people who feel compelled to assert that any woman who gets promoted or any minority who gets hired did not earn it. They blame everything on affirmative action. To me, they are just as unhelpful as the SJW crowd.

Posted by: Y-not at July 24, 2015 06:41 PM (RWGcK)

360 I don't want to see pushback. Its always horrible, and the most disturbing thing is that whites don't riot. They go to war.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 06:41 PM (39g3+)

361 A pretty bad 4 days on the Dow

17,568.53 -163.39(-0.92%)

Posted by: DJIA Deathwatch at July 24, 2015 06:41 PM (rwI+c)

362 it will kill any hope of immigration reform and put serious pressure on 2nd amendment rights.

Posted by: Lukas

By reform, you mean, fuck it, c'mon in? Cause that's what's being bandied about.

Posted by: Potemkin at July 24, 2015 06:41 PM (VFjhH)

363 and re-read the piece

it doesn't let Gabe off the hook

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 24, 2015 06:42 PM (Cq0oW)

364 Are we getting bonus points for this?

Posted by: Chinese WoW players on contract at July 24, 2015 06:42 PM (VFjhH)

365 I continually amazed that people don't recognize that this will be used to smear all of us

If it didn't exist, the State Media would just make it up. It's what they do. It's all they do.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 24, 2015 06:43 PM (rwI+c)

366 When being introduced, I frequently say that my birth name is VIA, and that my parents labeled me as male.

But, that I self identify as a black lesbian mother of three named Latrina.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 24, 2015 06:43 PM (VPLuQ)

367 Is the racism of 'I don't want to be near them' worse than the racism of the Left, which is based on the idea that People X are inherently stupid and they must live their lives for them?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel

I find the Left's ideas repugnant, of course, and though I understand the impulse of "I don't want to be near them," I would like to see it confronted by fellow-travelers. I get not wanting to live in Detroit or Baltimore or East St. Louis, but it needs to be shouted from the rooftops that it is because the African-American culture in big cities is sick, not because black skin equals violent or inferior.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 24, 2015 06:43 PM (VAsIq)

368 When you're continually told that you need to "check your privilege," that you're racist just for existing as a conservative white person? Some people are gonna say "well, hell, guess I must be a racist then." What you're seeing is the pushback finally breaking the surface, amplified in the feedback chamber that is social media.

Posted by: Moose4 at July 24, 2015 06:43 PM (O4XaS)

369 Red and yellow, black and white

They are precious in his sight

Jesus loves the little children of the world!

Ray Stevens https://youtu.be/0a45z_HG3WU

Posted by: Ray Stevens at July 24, 2015 06:43 PM (JO9+V)

370 This thread has disaster and bannings written all over it. Guess it's just as well I had stuff to do this evening anyway.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 24, 2015 06:43 PM (GDulk)

371 176
Some of them are overtly racist and use the term 'cuckold' when a white female is shown with black men and/or babies.

So they have no earthly comprehension of what the word means, then.

* * *

Sorry I posted before finishing my thought. There's also usually a white male in the photo, usually on the fringes pushed out of the white female's focus by a black male, or a white couple smiling over a black child. Hence their accusation of cuckold.

Posted by: Doomed at July 24, 2015 06:43 PM (bGLSw)

372

whites don't riot. They go to war.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor

You're goddamned right.

What the SJW don't seem to realize is that they are such hothouse little flowers that if they destroy the society they hate, they will get lines up close to the front.

Prison gangs are not a far off analogy when the real collapse sets in.

Posted by: imp at July 24, 2015 06:43 PM (XIXZz)

373 Racists want conversations about race. They NEED conversations about race, they FEED on conversations about race.

If everything is racist then everything can be banned.

Racism is a tool in the social engineer's toolbox.

You are being played.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 24, 2015 06:44 PM (cNtqS)

374 Jesus loves the little children of the world!

But then they grow up.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 24, 2015 06:44 PM (W5DcG)

375 And the distasteful blog I referred to above was named by another poster. I did not want to, but it's out there now.

Posted by: Doomed at July 24, 2015 06:44 PM (bGLSw)

376 Hey Gabe - I've got a great manifesto for you

"Why I parted ways with the right"

Used only once

Posted by: Charles Johnson at July 24, 2015 06:44 PM (/wt4l)

377 "Never heard the "muds" before, is that short for something?
"

Mud is typically what color?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 24, 2015 06:44 PM (VPLuQ)

378 When it comes to immigration...

Just ask yourself: Do you want to be one of THESE people?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4EbZarhhIY

Posted by: RKae at July 24, 2015 06:44 PM (upjBJ)

379 Sorry to say, I tried to read Ace's post and found its incoherence driving a pounding headache - best I could figure out it was some sort of apology to some functional retarded types* who seem to believe that it is raccissts to defend national boundaries.

*just providing a 'neutral' explanation for most who scream racism, I suspect many, if not most, are simply anti-american traitors.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2015 06:44 PM (NaeCR)

380 330,000,000+ people in the country.

Romney got 60,900,000 votes in 2012

How many people actually comment regularly on the Internet or Twitter?

Posted by: Some headless guy in NE at July 24, 2015 06:45 PM (HstNY)

381 Sulla, Cataline, the Gacchis, and Caesar all played to the disaffected working class. Someone more qualified than Trump will appear in the next decade, and God help us all when that happens.

======

THIS

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 24, 2015 06:45 PM (Cq0oW)

382 You mean this is the first time they've attacked in enough force that you've noticed them?

I had plenty of them leaving screeds on my now-defunct blog years ago. No twitter back then but plenty of "comment". I'm surprised they can keep it to tweets, actually, I usually got 5-page screeds. Multiples.

And usually in response to a post that had nothing to do with racism; just mentioned or linked someone who wasn't "pure whiteness incarnate".

Posted by: Kathy Kinsley at July 24, 2015 06:45 PM (P1Mfe)

383 These people aren't taking any "conservative" positions on things. They aren't Republicans but rather as anti-Republican as the Democrats are.

As I keep telling Democrats, ideology isn't skin deep. It doesn't matter what color Americans are as long as they are culturally American.

Posted by: wodun at July 24, 2015 06:45 PM (DD0s8)

384 You sound just like Eric Holder.

Posted by: some random meathead

In what way?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 24, 2015 06:46 PM (VAsIq)

385 I continually amazed that people don't recognize that this will be used to smear all of us and to get the LIV voter to select the most pro amnesty open border candidate possible all in an effort to demonstrate just how not racist they are. Just like voting for President Historic First

If "winning" hinges on dancing to the tune of the LIV, there's nothing left to salvage.

Bread and circuses ...

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 24, 2015 06:46 PM (0NdlF)

386 Meanwhile, we are visible, we can be counted, and no one, including King Putt or Gabe give a single fuck.

Posted by: 60 Asian groups suing Haaavahd at July 24, 2015 06:46 PM (VFjhH)

387 Some of them are overtly racist and use the term 'cuckold' when a white female is shown with black men and/or babies.

....

This is often done to make sure the people looking at the picture understand who's the daddy. This was done in "My Name is Earl". It's a pretty common gag, actually.

Posted by: Schaeffer at July 24, 2015 06:46 PM (FwOrP)

388 racists who consider
themselves staunch conservatives/republicans. There are a LOT
***
Almost every white liberal I've know has been deeply, deeply racist of the, "Sanger was right, we do really need to do something about these brown people over breeding" sort.

So the fact that the KKKidiots finally figured out how to use twitter is...not particularly alarming.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 24, 2015 06:47 PM (5LOno)

389 FWIW, from what I've seen of them I don't think these are mobies, Alinsky types or anything of the sort. They seem to be genuine white racists, some of whom are the Stormfront types but not all.

Even if correct, this distinction won't matter because all conservatives will be linked to them no matter what.

Posted by: Doomed at July 24, 2015 06:48 PM (bGLSw)

390 If you want to see what people really think about immigration note that the country can clearly sustain greater levels of immigration than the current laws allow - as it is not collapsing under far too many immigrants coming here illegally - and see what their reaction is.

I love immigration. I welcome people from any nation and background to the country... as long as they bring something positive to us and contribute, and are coming here to become American.

I think people who move to another nation then demand to be their own people and everyone change to accommodate them are idiotic and loathsome.

There was an old term used about travelers, the "Ugly American" who refused to learn any languages, demanded to be treated special, and would not accept or work with any of the customs, because, American.

That was always slanderous, because many travelers do that, from many nations. But what we have now are "Ugly Hispanics" and "Ugly Muslims" who come to the country and demand we adapt to them, change our customs, and refuse to learn the local language. Put everything in Spanish, bigot, you must do as I say or I'll cry racism!

Those are the people we don't want. But the others who want to become part of the country, become American, contribute, donate, and blend in? We can't get enough of them.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 06:48 PM (39g3+)

391 GABUS EUNT DOMUS

Posted by: Brian at July 24, 2015 06:48 PM (YnBfI)

392 This is a maskirovka giving the left/Chamber of Commerce/GOPe the Race Card to hang around the colllective (wouldn't have it any other way) necks of Trump, Trump's supporters, and any real candidate who has a chance to pick up Trump's supporters (Cruz, Walker).

Way to give it legs.

Posted by: The Next First Zek at July 24, 2015 06:48 PM (ybzJi)

393 Meh. Your point about the Left invoking white privilege was made the first time.

.....

And it still stands, whether you think it "helpful" or not. As Ace himself has noted, you will be made to care.

Posted by: Schaeffer at July 24, 2015 06:49 PM (FwOrP)

394 You write well and I feel your guilt. But I fear the dog has been beat too much and it's turned. The SJWs have polarised debate in their favour the past 5 years and this is the reaction. To refuse action now is to only take punches not give them. Could it be done more tastefully? I doubt it.

Posted by: vladskandgermagne at July 24, 2015 06:49 PM (S0SH1)

395 Sulla, Cataline, the Gacchis, and Caesar all played to the disaffected working class. Someone more qualified than Trump will appear in the next decade, and God help us all when that happens.
***
Not to quibble, but wasn't Sulla more the Pinochet of his era? Pushing back against the populare Marius?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 24, 2015 06:49 PM (5LOno)

396 Almost every white liberal I've know has been
deeply, deeply racist of the, "Sanger was right, we do really need to do
something about these brown people over breeding" sort.

So the fact that the KKKidiots finally figured out how to use twitter is...not particularly alarming.

Posted by: 18-1

You ain't seen nothing until you've seen rich liberal women congratulate each other for receiving awards from Prenatal Parts; talking like we might refer to the SPCA putting down stray animals.

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 24, 2015 06:49 PM (VFjhH)

397 I am so glad you wrote this piece today, Ace. Although Ace of Spades is the first blog I visit each day, I also visit this one daily: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/07/23/literal-cuckservatives/
and although I enjoy his comments about social justice warriors and feminists, and alpha and beta males, I am extremely disappointed to realize I am reading a thorough-going racist.

Posted by: Bob Agard at July 24, 2015 06:49 PM (z6lxF)

398
Oh ok, I was thinking it was something short for muddled or milagro.

Never seen that one before.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 24, 2015 06:50 PM (ODxAs)

399 Don't do too much hand-wringing and self-flagillation over it, Ace.

You should allow that some, maybe even many, are plants. Maybe even Russian Troll House operatives, and certainly marxists are doing it to make us look bad. I see it all the time.

Others, of course, mean every word. But racists are everywhere, on all sides.

Just ignore it and don't get defensive. In fact, maybe some introspection on why you feel the need to immediately rush out and let everyone know you're not with them is in order.

Posted by: Phil at July 24, 2015 06:50 PM (DjpfO)

400 Gabe is to conservatism as garrot is to testicles.

Posted by: se pa moron at July 24, 2015 06:50 PM (xQX/f)

401 Racism is wrong....
Since Cubs fans are truly the greatest people on the planet and any race can be a Cubs fan

Posted by: Ncj at July 24, 2015 06:50 PM (3f8gu)

402 If you want to see what people really think about immigration note that the country can clearly sustain greater levels of immigration than the current laws allow
***
Not really. We've just taken the native born population, put them on SSDI and foodstamps, and borrowed to pay for it so that the governing class can hire cheap help instead of paying the former market wages.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 24, 2015 06:50 PM (5LOno)

403 everybody have a great weekend.

And fuck all the cuckservatives!

Cheers.

Posted by: prescient11 at July 24, 2015 06:51 PM (q5APL)

404
When being introduced, I frequently say that my birth name is VIA, and that my parents labeled me as male.

But, that I self identify as a black lesbian mother of three named Latrina.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
......................................
Only three? Well, hey, gotta keep them gubmint checks flowin'.

Posted by: Lucious Bootay at July 24, 2015 06:51 PM (wAQA5)

405 Does anyone else remember Mark Steyn recounting how members of a Canadian "Human Rights" commission hijacked innocent peoples accounts and posted vile shit on Stormfront sites? All to attack journolists that some professional litigant? This shit was going on ten years ago.

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 24, 2015 06:52 PM (VFjhH)

406 397
I am so glad you wrote this piece today, Ace. Although Ace of Spades is
the first blog I visit each day, I also visit this one daily:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/07/23/literal-cuckservatives/
and
although I enjoy his comments about social justice warriors and
feminists, and alpha and beta males, I am extremely disappointed to
realize I am reading a thorough-going racist.

* * *

Then I'll bet your familiar with this one; note the front page post...

https://goodbyeamericainaphoto.wordpress.com/

Posted by: Doomed at July 24, 2015 06:52 PM (bGLSw)

407 ***"This is not new, and probably not a false flag. If unchecked, it will kill any hope of immigration reform and put serious pressure on 2nd amendment rights."***

Leaving aside the loaded "Immigration Reform", how precisely do you play to "check" this "movement"?

Hmmm?

Oh, you wouldn't possibly be taking time and effort to dance to the Left's tune so you can denounce your whackjob fringe. Nah, that's a totally useful effort.

Meanwhile, the Donks have no problem cashing NAMBLA's checks.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 24, 2015 06:52 PM (xSCb6)

408 399 Don't do too much hand-wringing and self-flagillation over it, Ace.

Never feel guilty because someone shares your position for the wrong reason. Operate by your own principles on what is right, not theirs.

And don't let people make you apologize for them. Because they'll try.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 24, 2015 06:52 PM (shLnc)

409

Not to quibble, but wasn't Sulla more the Pinochet of his era? Pushing back against the populare Marius?

Posted by: 18-1

not a quibble. You are right. Sulla was an optimate. And I misspelled Gracchis.

Posted by: imp at July 24, 2015 06:52 PM (XIXZz)

410 To my surprise I become a dire racist every time President Obama opens his pie-hole. The longer he talks the more racist I become. The feeling quickly fades. Oddly, Ben Carson doesn't have that effect on me. In fact, quite opposite.

Posted by: Mr. FeverHead at July 24, 2015 06:53 PM (j1Wvr)

411 Never heard the "muds" before, is that short for something?

This guy :

http://tinyurl.com/qha6f9e

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 24, 2015 06:53 PM (W5DcG)

412 "Though this nation has proudly thought of itself as an ethnic melting
pot, in things racial we have always been and continue to be, in too
many ways, essentially a nation of cowards," Holder declared.

This is how the crypto-racist SJWs set the trap.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 24, 2015 06:54 PM (cNtqS)

413 Sulla, Cataline, the Gacchis, and Caesar all played to the disaffected working class. Someone more qualified than Trump will appear in the next decade, and God help us all when that happens.

Socrates called it millennia ago. We're in the "plutocrat" stage of the decline of a democracy. Unless God shows us mercy, its inevitable when tyranny comes.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 06:54 PM (39g3+)

414 Maybe some folks who were willing to ignore a lot of contrary evidence but who got tired of being tarred with the racist brush finally decided that since they were going to be branded/tarred as racists no matter what they do or what they say solely because of their skin color and it seems that the people who believe that are getting more vocal and more powerful and they think it's maybe time to fight back against that thinking in the only way they're allowed to.

Let's face facts; if a white man criticizes a black man for any reason good and justified or not they will be called racist.

Certain factions are making it very clear by their actions that they're beginning to feel more and more confident about taking physical actions in response to any perceived racism.

To protect yourself, what choices do you really have?

If you wish to let those people know that it won't be as easy as they think and that there are more people who will react than it seems likely right now how do you make that known? And are you really out of line for doing so?

I can thoroughly understand many of like minded people banding together for mutual support in the face of outright targeting by our own government.

As it stands right now the only group that others can be biased against and take physical action against almost with impunity are whites and those perceived as white.

That's not going to get better until Obama and his entire coterie of agents and cabinet are removed and even then the residue left within the Federal Bureaucracy will still have negative effects for years.

That doesn't absolve anyone from acting or talking stupid but it sure does make you begin to understand that a lot of these people aren't the sister humping rednecks that we've been taught are the only ones who think that way.

Meanwhile, what part of desiring that our country not be the dumping ground for a bunch of illiterate criminals in any quantity is wrong? Gabe's estimate of how innocent these invaders are needs to be recalibrated using some facts and some first hand knowledge.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 24, 2015 06:54 PM (x3GpS)

415 Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 24, 2015 06:35 PM (0NdlF)

ConservativeMonster, Gawker didn't lose six figures, they lost seven figures because of Gamergate. In my opinion, the success of Gamergate and their campaign against the SJWs not only bloodied the noses of the SJWs but for the right leaning folks in that loosely organized group, that success also drew attention to the failures of the GOP as an opposition party.

Posted by: AlFromBayShore at July 24, 2015 06:54 PM (H7qBA)

416 There was an old term used about travelers, the "Ugly American" who refused to learn any languages, demanded to be treated special, and would not accept or work with any of the customs, because, American.

True, but ironic.

In the book, "The Ugly American" was liked because he would go out and about instead of staying at the embassy and ex pat clubs/bars ...

Posted by: Adriane the Literary Critic ... at July 24, 2015 06:55 PM (qOsoH)

417 Never heard the "muds" before, is that short for something?
Yes, it's awful

Posted by: Hermione Granger at July 24, 2015 06:56 PM (ZbV+0)

418 You want a Spark EV
You'd settle for a moped
You'll get high speed rail
I want a monorail, thats right a monorail Well, sir, there's nothing on earth

Like a genuine,

Bona fide,

Electrified,

Six-car

Monorail! ...

What'd I say?

Monorail!

What's it called?

Monorail!

That's right! Monorail!

Posted by: Colin at July 24, 2015 06:56 PM (dvwsD)

419 that success also drew attention to the failures of the GOP as an opposition party.

4chan and reddit did more to fight the culture war than the GOP has in twenty years.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 24, 2015 06:56 PM (shLnc)

420 We need to recognize this, and deal with it. Not
merely because they are politically inconvenient to us because we get
slimed by association (despite not choosing to associate with them), but
because they are a bunch of pricks who embrace a disturbing and evil
mindset.

Fuck them.

Posted by: Former FR moderator at July 24, 2015 06:27 PM (EG1ig)

Who's this we? Sorry, this is America, where it is everyone's god given right to hold fucked up opinions and to be retarded. If they aren't breaking shit, breaking laws, advocating violence, etc., why should I give a shit?
What really irks me is getting stabbed in the back by my supposed ally, just because he is looking to score some political cheap shot.
True racists are easily dealt with (mocked, rebuked resoundingly, etc.) and are consistent and easily identified. Getting knee capped while your back is turned? Who needs enemies?

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at July 24, 2015 06:56 PM (Vf5rR)

421
Thats right I did hear muds in Harry Potter. Heh.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 24, 2015 06:57 PM (ODxAs)

422 Gabe isn't exactly a conservative. The white guiltism amongst the socially liberal wing of the GOP is rampant.

This is leftist drivel designed to malign Trump supporters. Soros would be proud

Posted by: K at July 24, 2015 06:58 PM (NTOR5)

423
Mud is typically what color?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 24, 2015 06:44 PM (VPLuQ)
==========

Puce?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2015 06:59 PM (iQIUe)

424 When you're continually told that you need to "check your privilege,"
that you're racist just for existing as a conservative white person?

As a white person who grew up in an area that was 99% white, I lived white privilege, let me tell you a little about white privilege:
You always get to cut to the front of the line just because of your color
You always get the front seat / ride shotgun just because of your color
Get hired just because of your color
Get the scholarship just because of your color
Can drive like a drunk just because of your color
Get out of tickets just because of your color
etc.

Yup, in that all white town, everybody got that sweet white privilege everyday.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2015 06:59 PM (NaeCR)

425 I know this will be misused and deliberately misunderstood by some - it is every time I say it - but racism is not the greatest evil on earth. As evils go, its pretty far down the list. Its evil, yeah. But comparatively speaking its pretty insignificant.

Crushing someone's liberty and livelihood because you disagree with them politically ranks much higher.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 06:59 PM (39g3+)

426 Mud is typically what color?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 24, 2015 06:44
-------------------------

Red.

Posted by: Texas at July 24, 2015 07:01 PM (DtNNC)

427 Posted by: AlFromBayShore at July 24, 2015 06:54 PM (H7qBA)

Dangit, thought that number seemed a little low. Thanks.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 24, 2015 07:02 PM (0NdlF)

428 "Gabe's estimate of how innocent these invaders are needs to be recalibrated using some facts and some first hand knowledge."

If Malor better understood the view of homosexuality held by the typical Hispanic illegal alien, he would be screaming hysterically for a thousand-foot-high triple wall on the southern border.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2015 07:02 PM (noWW6)

429
Yup, in that all white town, everybody got that sweet white privilege everyday.

It was funny, but that skit Eddie murphy did way back in the 80s on SNL where he dressed up as a white guy and showed how whites give each other free stuff and advantages constantly really annoyed me. Not because it was poorly done, he was great. But because there are more than a few people so stupid they believe that's how it really goes. And he was perpetuating it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 07:03 PM (39g3+)

430 Maybe they just don't want no Muggles moving in and takin' der mergik ?

Posted by: meekle at July 24, 2015 07:03 PM (94iKh)

431 "If Malor better understood the view of homosexuality held by the typical
Hispanic illegal alien, he would be screaming hysterically for a
thousand-foot-high triple wall on the southern border."

Won't keep us out forever.

*creepy grin*

Posted by: Titans at July 24, 2015 07:03 PM (bGLSw)

432 Unless God shows us mercy, its inevitable when tyranny comes.

And given that we have Planned Parenthood and its like, we don't deserve any of it.

(Not that one can deserve mercy)

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 24, 2015 07:04 PM (0NdlF)

433 So looks like the nail was squarely struck on the head back at 47.

>>>So the takeaway is, had Gabe's simply added the words "some of" at just the right point in his statement and this would not have occurred. <<<

We could have had 426 comments on Kate Upton's tits, but nooooo, we had to opt for concern trolling.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 24, 2015 07:04 PM (xSCb6)

434 Looked at Alex Pareene's latest photo. Boy did he pork out! I remember him from when he was banging his friends wife at work.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2015 07:04 PM (iQIUe)

435
This is leftist drivel designed to malign Trump supporters. Soros would be proud

Posted by: K at July 24, 2015

Not merely trump supporters. His current message resonates. And it undercuts EVERY candidate in both parties.

Think we're a color blind society? Make fake racial incidents on campus. Go batshit over someone wearing a blanket on a cold day.

Think that we have gender equality? Women are being slaughtered in college rape factories.....that all women should attend.

What rape story got national hearings and visits to the WH from UVa? The rogue Haven Monahan and the coffee table of Doom? Or the 18 year old who was abducted, raped, murdered and discarded like garbage by a black guy?

And I'm supposed to take this from a party that revered Robert Sheets Byrd?

I'm supposed to value the judgement of Gabe Two-face Malor?

No thanks.

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 24, 2015 07:04 PM (VFjhH)

436 Damn Mudbloods.

mudblood n.
A wizard or witch who is muggle-born. Muggle meaning non-magical people.
"Hermoine is a filthy, dirty, Mudblood."

Posted by: meekle at July 24, 2015 07:04 PM (94iKh)

437 If Malor better understood the view of homosexuality held by the typical
Hispanic illegal alien, he would be screaming hysterically for a
thousand-foot-high triple wall on the southern border.

Your so right, you will never see an Hispanic illegal alien carrying the rainbow flag across the border.

Posted by: Colin at July 24, 2015 07:04 PM (dvwsD)

438 Claudia Schiffer married Matthew Vaughn. Shit, she had 4 kids. Good for her.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2015 07:05 PM (iQIUe)

439 Why are you so surprised that there are so many white supremacists ace? Not only have many of us in the right warned that the end result of "everything is racist" will be to make racism palatable again, but you yourself noted that most non-whites and most immigrants (who are presumably non-white, I don't see why any significant number of west europeans would move to the US) vote Democrat and you don't know what can be done about that (apparently white supremacists know). On top of that Democrat minorities also agitate on behalf of their race explicitly and are actively encouraged to do so by white liberals. Do you seriously think this double standard will last forever? Especially as the white % of the population dwindles and more and more white people can't count on raw numbers to keep them insulated? Belief in tribal equality is a gross aberration from the historical norm and it's bound to disappear for the same reason why predators in general tend to be extremely territorial and tribalistic.

Posted by: Johnny at July 24, 2015 07:05 PM (WvGsS)

440 Whatever happened on fucking Twattr was a Moby attack and Gabriel Malor is a pussy faggot troll.

Posted by: Alpine Crotch at July 24, 2015 07:05 PM (WhfU/)

441 And given that we have Planned Parenthood and its like, we don't deserve any of it.

I know. Like Clint Eastwood said in Unforgiven, "We all got it comin' kid."

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 07:06 PM (39g3+)

442 I assume commenting about immigration from non-European countries being a net negative is a no-no now?

Posted by: kartoffel at July 24, 2015 07:06 PM (tfR0O)

443 I'm taking mudblood back.

Posted by: meekle at July 24, 2015 07:06 PM (94iKh)

444 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 24, 2015 06:56 PM (shLnc)

"hat success also drew attention to the failures of the GOP as an opposition party."
"4chan and reddit did more to fight the culture war than the GOP has in twenty years."

I was already disheartened by the GOP as I came to know of what Gamergate was and what it was doing. As time passed, I became angered at the GOP because of its failure to address the relatively hollow narratives put out by the SJWs. For example, Obama's use of the bully pulpit to interfere with the George Zimmerman case. This was a state criminal trial and Obama, a representative of the federal government trampled upon the sovereignty of the state of Florida. He also unleashed a lynch mob against Zimmerman in the process. Where the hell was the GOP to check Obama on this? Worse yet was the trial that revealed that Zimmerman engaged in a legitimate act of self defense in response to Trayvon Martin's attempt to murder him. Where was the GOP to challenge the myth that Zimmerman was in the wrong?

While the feckless GOP dithers and gets in bed with the Chamber of Commerce as the SJWs successfully manufactures effective myths and lies, people on their X-Boxes are encountering an infinitely greater degree of success in challenging the SJWs. That shit pisses me off and this may be my last "go-around" with the GOP. I think the time to "enjoy the decline" is afoot.

Posted by: AlFromBayShore at July 24, 2015 07:07 PM (H7qBA)

445 To my surprise I become a dire racist every time President Obama opens his pie-hole. The longer he talks the more racist I become. The feeling quickly fades. Oddly, Ben Carson doesn't have that effect on me. In fact, quite opposite.

Before Obama, I thought not being "racist" was a laudable ideal.

Now, I don't care. It's not that I self-identify as racist, but I don't care if people who are objectively more racist on any metric want to tar me with the label.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 24, 2015 07:09 PM (0NdlF)

446 I guess years of liberals pushing gay rights and white guilt maybe created something eh? If you're going to be blamed you might as well fight.

Posted by: JOE at July 24, 2015 07:10 PM (9jlkg)

447 Claudia Schiffer... I'm not a lusty guy. When I see a pretty girl, I admire her like I do a beautiful painting or scenery. Its beauty for its own sake. I rarely think "man I wanna have some of that."

But something about her... made me want to throw her over the side of the couch and rip her underwear off. I don't know what it was, something visceral and animalistic.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 07:12 PM (39g3+)

448 >>"303
"I gotta say something. I never identify myself as "white." What I mean
by that is that I never think, "I'm proud to be white" or "It's great to
be with fellow whites" or stuff like that. I just don't.

"The Left and its associated allies very much identify you as white, your good feelings notwithstanding."

Posted by: Schaeffer

Yes. Then re-read Schaeffer's post #252 below to see where the Left's duplicitous dialectic about race eventually drives white conservatives-- if only to protect their families and personal property:

252
"Given the way the left has triumphantly discussed the minoritization of
whites in this country--and they explicitly target whites qua
whites--you're going to have to expect a reaction from whites who will
band together. I've personally moved into this camp (reluctantly) over
the past decade. The idea that we're not supposed to see race only
works if everyone agrees to it, but that's really not case now, is it?
Every non-white group is not only not assimilating, but they are
tribalizing themselves more and more. At what point do we need to do
likewise? I don't want to go into full Stormfrontery, but on the other
hand, the positions of the 80s and 90s are just not working--at all."

Posted by: An Observer at July 24, 2015 07:12 PM (Le9sw)

449 The GOPe and its sycophants have taken a tactic from the left (remember Mississippi?). They found a way to work it into an argument to smear conservatives and here it is. They really want to purge us.

Posted by: JROD at July 24, 2015 07:13 PM (wnwJC)

450 I was constantly told that that group 'La Raza' could not be Racist, because they were a minority...

That only Whites could be Racist, because we were the Majority...

Wellllll.... in California, Hispanics are now the Majority, and Whites the Minority...

Can we start a White Group Yet???? uh.... no... that would still be Racist...

When the Congress of the US itself, divides itself down Racial Lines, or Sex Lines.... eventually EVEYONE will be forced to form groups... out of pure self defense...

We are just seeing the Whack Jobs take advantage of this....

Posted by: BB Wolf at July 24, 2015 07:14 PM (qh617)

451 Ace, you are very patient.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at July 24, 2015 07:15 PM (KGp9y)

452 "Given the way the left has triumphantly discussed the minoritization of whites in this country--and they explicitly target whites qua whites--you're going to have to expect a reaction from whites who will
band together. I've personally moved into this camp (reluctantly) over the past decade.

Dennis Leary has a hilarious bit where he's talking about how exasperated kids make you as a parent, and in it he lets slip the F word. Then he says "I know F--- is a bad word but you're making me say it!!"

Racism is bad but if you keep pushing people, pushing and pushing... like Grump said way up there... you will be made to care. I don't want to die standing between tow mobs with my hands held out, quoting the Bible, but it sure looks like we're headed that way.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 07:16 PM (39g3+)

453 And how is any of this horseshit new?

The WSJ has smeared anyone who dares question this as being 'anti-immigration'. That's the gag line the Satanic Style Guide. It's what the MFM follows, rather than think.

And note that it is exactly what our hero Gabe stated. Ten years ago, such cases were illegal aliens. Now they're 'dreamers'.

And to Prenatal Parts, kiddie chop shops are 'tissue donations'. And note how they whined over the terms.

Terms of engagement.

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 24, 2015 07:16 PM (VFjhH)

454 I am beginning to think this is the annual AoSHQ thread, wherein he collects all the new stormfront hashes for a mass-banning.

So, it's a trap.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at July 24, 2015 07:16 PM (Vf5rR)

455 CNN:

"Attention white people, these morons destroying their own city? You made them do this"

Fuck this.

Posted by: Joe at July 24, 2015 07:16 PM (9jlkg)

456 443 I'm taking mudblood back.

Posted by: meekle at July 24, 2015 07:06 PM (94iKh)

mud.... BLOOD???

Just not funny...

Posted by: Harcort Fenton Mudd at July 24, 2015 07:16 PM (qh617)

457
I'm glad Ace gave credit to the dog in John Wick. He deserved a doggy Oscar.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2015 07:16 PM (iQIUe)

458 Hang 'em. Feed their bodies to pigs.

Ignore them until you get the pigs ready.

That's my plan on dealing with any sort of supremacists.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at July 24, 2015 07:16 PM (PD0dM)

459 He also unleashed a lynch mob against Zimmerman in the process. Where the hell was the GOP to check Obama on this?

Afraid they would be called racist if they did not persecute the murderer of Obama's imaginary son, they led the lynch mob.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2015 07:17 PM (NaeCR)

460 When the Congress of the US itself, divides itself down Racial Lines, or
Sex Lines.... eventually EVEYONE will be forced to form groups... out
of pure self defense...

We are just seeing the Whack Jobs take advantage of this....

Fully supported by the media, which to me is the most dis-hearting this of all. Local newspaper (1) is fully in step with the left. I read many newspaper around the US and they all are on the same page, along with TV, etc.

Posted by: Colin at July 24, 2015 07:17 PM (dvwsD)

461 >Not to get too tinfoil hatty, but there are conspiracy theories that the left is creating fake conservatives to spout racist stuff on social media.

Is it really "tinfoil-hatty?" It's not like they haven't tried to unleash one moby after another before.

Posted by: salfter at July 24, 2015 07:18 PM (0gC2q)

462 And I don't have any plans to purchase pigs anytime soon. But as soon as The Balloon Goes Up and the Revolution Is On, then Pigs Will Be Ordered.

That's the Way Of Things in my book.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at July 24, 2015 07:19 PM (PD0dM)

463 Well you knew this tactic was coming to try to discredit what Trump was doing and the message that allowing an invasion of illiterate peasants into a country with a massive welfare state and assimilation when it happens is purely accidental is not good for indigenous Americans especially blacks.

And can someone explain why I should be happy with, for lack of a better construction, white power?

Posted by: Kreplach at July 24, 2015 07:19 PM (PaAcR)

464 Meh. Figured out I didn't care for Gabe awhile back.

Makes little sense for me to pretend like my jury's out on him or that I'm open to changing my mind.

I am glad his posts are sparse, and that he works well with you. I can live with that without sending him angry tweets. Indifference works for me.

Posted by: Hawkins1701 at July 24, 2015 07:19 PM (vpE+b)

465 Does this mean that neo-Nazis are the new most-important 1.5% of the population???

Posted by: andycanuck at July 24, 2015 07:19 PM (kivUY)

466 Gabe is an asshole.

Posted by: crash at July 24, 2015 07:20 PM (Skrkz)

467 Not to get too tinfoil hatty, but there are conspiracy theories that the
left is creating fake conservatives to spout racist stuff on social
media.

I resent this. Everything my dear leader says is the absolute truth.

Posted by: One of JEFs composite girlfriends at July 24, 2015 07:20 PM (VFjhH)

468 >The GOPe and its sycophants

Is it really hard to believe these people are legitimate? They're mostly the right-wing version of SJWs - populists with magic-thinking, conspiratorial worldviews. Their stupidity at least has a long and sordid history.

Posted by: kartoffel at July 24, 2015 07:20 PM (tfR0O)

469 So, these racist assholes came out of nowhere?

Are we sure this isn't some weird social media agent provocateur business?

Posted by: Dianna at July 24, 2015 07:21 PM (3n4em)

470 Are we sure this isn't some weird social media agent provocateur business?

Let's just say I wouldn't be surprised to find that was the case, but at the same time, you can find about 10% of any population that believes anything no matter how idiotic. That's a pretty sizable number in a population of over 300 million. And not all of them are 3-tooth meth addicts living in a shack made of old tin cans and corrugated metal.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 07:23 PM (39g3+)

471 "The Left is hollow men. They have power because we live in fear and we love comfort and we don't embrace the truth."

So very, very true. In their heart they know this, and their fear of us is one of the biggest drivers of their hysterical insanity.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 24, 2015 07:23 PM (go6ud)

472 It's fringe, but boiling under the surface. It's not surprising. You can't have a soon-to-be-minority group that's being forever demonized and treated as privileged by our dominant cultural institutions, and not expect that some of them will see the writing on the wall and react.

Posted by: Mr. Estrada at July 24, 2015 07:23 PM (ur79Z)

473 I was constantly told that that group 'La Raza' could not be Racist, because they were a minority...

That only Whites could be Racist, because we were the Majority...

Posted by: BB Wolf

There are aprox 7 billion people currently.

China has 1.5 billion.

India has 1.4 billion.

The US is only 0.32 billion.

Racism is a human flaw that exists in every population. Let's assume racists are 15% of every pop.

That would mean that the US would have 0.048 billion racists, India .21 billion, and China .225 billion racists.

If stomping out racism root and branch gives you a woody, then your inability to speak any version of Chinese or Hindi makes you look like a hypocritical asshole with the IQ of a stereo-typical, white-redneck racist that you so loath masturbatorily.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2015 07:24 PM (VY8H5)

474 masturbatorily

... is that a word? Because it seems like it ought to be.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 07:25 PM (39g3+)

475 O/T

NY Slime now admits that Hillary's classified emails that have been discovered by inspector general

They were discovered in a random sample of only 40 emails, four were classified.

TEN PERCENT of a random sample of her emails were classified.

That means of the 55,000 she has turned over almost 6,000 will be classified.

Nothing here, move along.

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 24, 2015 07:27 PM (0FSuD)

476 Over 450 comments, so,,,
Picked up a stainless Taurus 941 .22Mag revolver with 4 inch barrel today. Can't wait to shoot it. Also, Mrs. E caught a possum in her watermelon patch last night. Not to sound too rayciss, but any recipes? Possum, not watermelon.

Posted by: Eromero at July 24, 2015 07:27 PM (go5uR)

477 This doesn't sound like a good movie...

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 24, 2015 07:27 PM (/YkzI)

478 ... and by "you" I don't mean BB Wolf.

I just mean Ace and Gabe.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2015 07:27 PM (VY8H5)

479 ... is that a word? Because it seems like it ought to be.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor

It is now muthafuck.

It is now.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2015 07:28 PM (VY8H5)

480 I'd phrase that "with such masturbatory loathing", but "masturbatorily" appears to be an actual word.

Posted by: Dianna at July 24, 2015 07:28 PM (3n4em)

481 The classic is possum pie, but I doubt its very good eating. Although, in some cultures: you shoot it, you eat it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 07:28 PM (39g3+)

482 Clink the link to the Cuckold article thread on My Posting Career, looks like that's where this came from

Posted by: explainer at July 24, 2015 07:28 PM (XjE29)

483 "For example, Obama's use of the bully pulpit to interfere with the
George Zimmerman case. This was a state criminal trial and Obama, a
representative of the federal government trampled upon the sovereignty
of the state of Florida. He also unleashed a lynch mob against
Zimmerman in the process. Where the hell was the GOP to check Obama on
this?"

The Florida GOP were right there lined up beside Obama on the Zimmerman witch hunt.

The Black Grievance Industry quite openly said that they would burn Disney World and other FL tourist hubs to the ground if Zimmerman escaped a murder charge.

The Money, the corporate donor class who trouser lots of profits from the tourist trade, immediately panicked and got on the horn to Republican governor Rick Scott. With whom The Money had what can be inferred to have been a sternly worded conversation.

Scott, with his marching orders having been issued, picked another Republican, Angela Corey, to lead the prosecution, and told her to pull out every stop to get that pre-decreed Murder One conviction on Zimmerman.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2015 07:28 PM (noWW6)

484 I'm old enough to remember when ace got super pissed because two people complained he was posting about a music video.

Posted by: Kenway at July 24, 2015 07:29 PM (XxZgW)

485 Racism is a human flaw that exists in every population. Let's assume racists are 15% of every pop.

You've never been to Japan. 90% racist against non Japanese. 90%

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 24, 2015 07:29 PM (0FSuD)

486 I put the link to My Posting Career in my "URL"

Posted by: explainer at July 24, 2015 07:29 PM (XjE29)

487 If stomping out racism root and branch gives you a woody, then your inability to speak any version of Chinese or Hindi makes you look like a hypocritical asshole with the IQ of a stereo-typical, white-redneck racist that you so loath masturbatorily.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2015 07:24 PM (VY8H5)

Not sure where the hell this came from....

But I have postulated on this very site before, that so called Racism is a Darwinian Mechanism... its been in every society I've ever visited (which is quite a few, US Navy Ret).... and the US is the LEAST Racist society I've ever been to.

The point I was trying to make was that the double standard would inevitably lead us to the point where EVERYONE would have to organize...

We are just there...

Posted by: BB Wolf at July 24, 2015 07:29 PM (qh617)

488 Speaking of masturbation, white supremacists, and perceived low numbers of same - I always thought there were very few. But then I remembered a horrible article I met that talked about a sub-culture of people who got off squishing bugs against their genitals.

So, since there is enough of those to form a sub-culture, I always equated those with black nationalists/white supremacists/La Raza racists. Just a few furtive folks who basically post about smashing beetles against their hoohaws.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at July 24, 2015 07:29 PM (PD0dM)

489 "Possum pie" sounds like a euphemism for rape.

Posted by: Fritz at July 24, 2015 07:30 PM (o/UmK)

490 If these accounts that are spewing the Stormfront shit get suspended, then they really were what they said they were...

But if they DON'T get thrown off Twitter when far less gets you banned, then I would suspect a Moby operation.

Posted by: kbdabear at July 24, 2015 07:30 PM (GrXXa)

491 'I met" = "I read".

Urgh. Wish we could edit.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at July 24, 2015 07:30 PM (PD0dM)

492 Shit, ace was talking to MPC?

I guess that explains this post.

Posted by: kartoffel at July 24, 2015 07:30 PM (tfR0O)

493 "Also, Mrs. E caught a possum in her watermelon patch last night. Not to
sound too rayciss, but any recipes? Possum, not watermelon."

I am informed that you must keep it alive for a week or so and feed it clean food and water, to get the reek of the horrible stuff that possums normally eat out of its system.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2015 07:30 PM (noWW6)

494 You've never been to Japan. 90% racist against non Japanese. 90%
Posted by: Nip Sip

Lived there for a non-significant period.

Guess how many invective laced rants about racism I launched at the people I lived and worked with then?

Zero. Go figure.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2015 07:31 PM (VY8H5)

495 >>>I'm fairly certain that Twitter is not a very accurate representation of any social movement.

Twitter accurately represents society the same way your bile duct represents total body chemistry.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 24, 2015 07:31 PM (0q2P7)

496 You've never been to Japan. 90% racist against non Japanese. 90%

And the other 10%... quiet about it. Seriously, the world is packed with racists. Tons of them. The USA is one of the least racist places on the planet, but is constantly portrayed as the worst. We joke about this with our British friend but sometimes I wonder if he's joking.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 07:32 PM (39g3+)

497 >>You've never been to Japan. 90% racist against non Japanese. 90%
Posted by: Nip Sip

And the Chinese I've known HATE the Japanese.

Posted by: Aviator at July 24, 2015 07:32 PM (c7vUv)

498 They are energetic on the internet. I'm biracial. bisexual and Jewish so I get it from both barrels of these types, but I think they still are fringe of the fringe of Conservatives circles.

The thing that makes it seem so much more is that these guys usually have no other social outlet than the internet. If you can go to a local conservative or liberal town hall, participate in a widely accepted form of political demonstration that won't immediately get everyone denouncing you as a hateful bigot, you might not feel the need to cluster-fuck Twitter like this.

But these people can't really do those things so they've got one outlet, and they're going to use it come hell or high water.

As a conservative I'm not really worried about neo-nazism as a movement. They've been a joke for decades, more about moving meth than actually affecting social policy and lawmaking.

Posted by: KoshNaranek at July 24, 2015 07:32 PM (ABCH+)

499
Gabe is the same fellow who had an epic, week long, multi-platform meltdown on racist nativists in the tea party because one person -- one single solitary person -- wore a home made button with a picture of Marco Rubio in a sombrero to a rally.

So, the default assumption is GM is wrong, over-dramatic, or both, on claims of racism.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2015 07:33 PM (kdS6q)

500 I see Big Anus got to ace.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 24, 2015 07:33 PM (TJCSB)

501 Why do you take the sudden upwelling of neo-nazi supporters on twitter as real? Have we stopped questioning timing of anything? David Axelrod is behind this. Or the Chamber of Commerce.

Posted by: Iblis at July 24, 2015 07:33 PM (frlnL)

502 Gabriel Malor is on a mission to become the next David Brooks. I guess the reason he doesnt post here anymore is because he's already used this stepping stone. Why people keep giving him a soapbox I don't know. I mean, its not as if he's ever written anything insightful or that anybody ever learned anything from him. What is it? Why does anybody give a shit what he says?

Posted by: Alpine Crotch at July 24, 2015 07:33 PM (WhfU/)

503 >>11 I'm fairly certain that Twitter is not a very accurate representation of any social movement.

Yeah, I just stay off twitter. It's not real life.

Although it does seem like there have been some overt anti white people movements and it's possible this is the inevitable backlash starting. Don't kneo.

Posted by: Lea at July 24, 2015 07:33 PM (vmMMi)

504 The classic is possum pie, but I doubt its very good eating.

I'm loving it!

Posted by: Jethro Bodine at July 24, 2015 07:33 PM (W5DcG)

505 I love how people always pretend that all the racists are on the right side of the political spectrum. Some of the most racist people I've ever met were lifelong Democrats.

And I always thought mudders were horses who ran well on wet tracks. I've never heard the term applied to a human being, of any race.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 24, 2015 07:34 PM (kGrdk)

506 476
Over 450 comments, so,,,
Picked up a stainless Taurus 941 .22Mag
revolver with 4 inch barrel today. Can't wait to shoot it. Also, Mrs. E
caught a possum in her watermelon patch last night. Not to sound too
rayciss, but any recipes? Possum, not watermelon.

Posted by: Eromero at July 24, 2015 07:27 PM (go5uR)

Skin possum. Boil for two hours. Cut into small chunks.

THROW IN GARBAGE CAN.

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 24, 2015 07:34 PM (0FSuD)

507 O/T

NY Slime now admits that Hillary's classified emails that have been discovered by inspector general...

Actually, that is not O/T, it's the other side of the coin, this thread is the diversion.

Also, most racist groups supported Obama. You'll find the facts by doing some dumpster diving, all the way back to 2008/9 behind the Stromfront, Neonazi, Klucker, etc. stores. They all vote socialist democrat.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2015 07:34 PM (NaeCR)

508 How many white supremacists does it take to appear to be a growing movement? For argument say 1000 could run all the websites and generate enough stupid comments to make it seem like a thing. This is more than you'd need but still only ~ .00003% of the US population.

Posted by: Mr. FeverHead at July 24, 2015 07:34 PM (j1Wvr)

509 "You've never been to Japan. 90% racist against non Japanese."

Yep.

So since it takes the semantically loaded "white supremacy" angle off the table, is it wrong for Japanese to desire that their bloodlines, language, and culture remain distinctive and in control in their own country? Discuss.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2015 07:34 PM (noWW6)

510 Just saw the comments below the Matt Lewis article, and its just as bad as another poster said: this is apparently a real thing, though I don't doubt that much of that is proxy accounts.

This is coming from a proud, confederate-flag waving Southerner who is sick of false accusations of racism: Those are some horrible, racist motherfuckers, and I understand where Ace is coming from better now.

Posted by: lowtech redneck at July 24, 2015 07:34 PM (KF8B+)

511 Had the Right actually done their job and fought, rather than accepting the Left's frame and self-righteously regurgitating post-WWII propaganda, this wouldn't be happening. The Right has conserved nothing but leftover Leftism.

Posted by: SF at July 24, 2015 07:35 PM (/ccxi)

512 Speaking of masturbation, white supremacists, and perceived low numbers
of same - I always thought there were very few. But then I remembered a
horrible article I met that talked about a sub-culture of people who got
off squishing bugs against their genitals.

No....just no. That's wrong in so many ways.

Posted by: couch fucker at July 24, 2015 07:35 PM (VFjhH)

513 476 Eat moar possum!

Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 07:36 PM (e3bId)

514 ulla, Cataline, the Gacchis, and Caesar all played to the disaffected working class. Someone more qualified than Trump will appear in the next decade, and God help us all when that happens.
Posted by: imp

The Gracchi were either the biggest assholes ever or the greatest men to ever live.

I'm still not sure.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2015 07:36 PM (VY8H5)

515 I tried to find some happy news to cheer everyone up, I failed after looking for 10 min. I didn't consider Caityln Jenner crying when receiving the award good news.

Posted by: Colin at July 24, 2015 07:36 PM (dvwsD)

516 Come on, man. Plutocrat ain't no planet!

Posted by: neil de grasse tyson at July 24, 2015 07:37 PM (kivUY)

517 is it wrong for Japanese to desire that their bloodlines, language, and culture remain distinctive and in control in their own country?

I have no problem with that, or any other culture wanting to remain their own culture. At the same time, if you're smart, you'll adapt things from a superior one - as the Japanese have - such as music, technology, etc.

Cultures that insist their sacred ancestral ways never change and its evil to expect them to, while sitting in a dirt with a hide tent over them... okay. But you're an idiot.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 07:37 PM (39g3+)

518 Hhhmmm... if National Geographic's show Brain Games is correct...

If humans are presented with something they don't know, initially humans will believe the claim is true.

Only after that initial acceptance will a human start trying to figure out if the new 'fact' is actually true.

Which perhaps explains the saying 'a lie can be halfway around the world or a million on Twitter will repeat it before Truth can get its pants on and find the smartphone.'

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 07:38 PM (XYw4l)

519 you shoot it, you eat it.

You keep what you kill.

Posted by: NecroMonger at July 24, 2015 07:38 PM (0NdlF)

520 Ooh, looky, Foxnews has up an article about the model wearing a t-shirt with the word "Trophy" on it... even Foxnews gets PO'd because they use a hottie model instead of a fat ugly pig with bad skin... think Mimi (from Drew Carry show) with poison ivy on her face.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2015 07:38 PM (NaeCR)

521 Hello Muddah. Hello Faddah.

Posted by: Zombie Allan Sherman at July 24, 2015 07:39 PM (W5DcG)

522 What kind of adds does a social media active Neo-Nazi get served?

Posted by: Mr. FeverHead at July 24, 2015 07:39 PM (j1Wvr)

523
The classic is possum pie, but I doubt its very good eating. Although, in some cultures: you shoot it, you eat it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 07:28 PM (39g3+)

Know why you see so many dead possums on the road?NOT good eating.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2015 07:39 PM (NaeCR)

524 But then I remembered a horrible article I met that talked about a sub-culture of people who got off squishing bugs against their genitals.

The most horrid kink I've seen is the one that gets off watching beautiful scantily clad or naked girls... crushing small helpless animals to death with their feet or under objects. As far as I can tell its mostly Japan, at least that's as much as I wanted to research it.

There's an awful, awful lot wrong with Japan that being nuked does not sufficiently explain.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 07:39 PM (39g3+)

525 I tend to look at the assault on our freedoms as being coordinated by communists, for the last 100 years or so. It perhaps was most obvious in the 60's, and race wars and the Great Society are just tools of the left, but they motivate whole groups of racists like black panthers or La Raza.

So they get these groups to bring down our constitutional social order. And with Obama stirring up race riots, and the white privilege stuff becoming dominant, the overwhelmed average white male starts to look for recourse. They see the mayor of New Orleans trying to take down famous statues, and say enough is enough.

These people aren't racist, but their anger may inspire the few actual Klan types to come out of the woodwork. Or it might inspire the left to fake such racist activity, to sabotage any border enforcement.

But that 4Chan Klanguy that inspired Dylann Roof was apparently the guy that hacked Trayvon's phone and revealed Trayvon as a gangbanger druggie troubled jerk that picked fights. 4Chan is apparently an offshoot from Anonymous, but I don't know how Roof went off the rails and decided to murder innocents. He could hardly have done more to help Obama/Sharpton or the racist left.

4Chan seems like online gaming warfare in a sense, where these guys have ten times the bravado they would in real life. And they are sort of taking on comic book level bad guy versus good guy ... except Dylann went real life, forgot it was just online fake personalities. I only know about them from some Daily Beast article on the 4Chan and Roof connection.

But at this point, the racist black powers are in the White House, while any Klan talk gets statues removed, generals dug up, major corporations removing memorabilia, ... and Ace feeling shamed. If the left is coordinating this Klan talk, they are geniuses. Commies spend a lot of energy on their agitprop and this sort of "reverse astro-turfing" sabotage from within.

Posted by: Illiniwek at July 24, 2015 07:39 PM (6zZ5y)

526 This doesn't justify Gabe's sentiment. He's looking for the straw man to put a torch to. There have always been racists, but that doesn't mean these fringe whackjobs are behind the anti-ILLEGAL-immigration sentiment currently being expressed.

Gabe gives away the farm in his own words by using the phrase "anti-immigration".

Mainstream conservatism isn't anti-immigration, it's anit-illegal-immigration.

Yeah, I know I'm repeating myself...some people still won't get the point.

Posted by: SGT York at July 24, 2015 07:40 PM (JaMTN)

527 516 Butt Uranus is!!

Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 07:40 PM (e3bId)

528 Cultures that insist their sacred ancestral ways never change and its evil to expect them to, while sitting in a dirt with a hide tent over them... okay. But you're an idiot.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor

Some just destroy every other tribe around them until they are 95% of an empire.

Boo.

Posted by: The Han at July 24, 2015 07:41 PM (VY8H5)

529 What a stupid portmanteau. Cuckservative? LOL.

Did you really think all those idiots who are marching for "southern heritage" weren't racists?

Of course, this is the predictable end-game of the whole concept of a "RINO." As soon as you start talking about who is and isn't a "real" conservative, you are inevitably going to end up cutting off a larger and larger sub-sections of your party until you end up with a tiny rotten core claiming to be the only true conservatives.

This is what that looks like.

And while I can't stand the SJWs much more than you guys can, (and believe it or not I argue with them as much as I argue with you all) they aren't nearly this bad. The world the SJWs envision is one where everyone is forced to be nice and accepting and understanding of everyone else. These guys? I can't even imagine what their ideal world would look like.

I guess I can actually. And it ain't pretty.

Posted by: seattle slough at July 24, 2015 07:41 PM (mCz8+)

530 Scott, with his marching orders having been issued,
picked another Republican, Angela Corey, to lead the prosecution, and
told her to pull out every stop to get that pre-decreed Murder One
conviction on Zimmerman.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2015 07:28 PM (noWW6)

Don't forget Attorney General Pam Bondi, the one person I specifically voted against in last election.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2015 07:41 PM (NaeCR)

531 Japan may be racist, but they're such polite racists.

Posted by: Alpine Crotch at July 24, 2015 07:42 PM (WhfU/)

532 I think Ace shd do a pod cast with the dog from John Wick.

Sit!
Speak!
Who wants their belly scratched? You want your belly scratched??
Good Doggy!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2015 07:42 PM (iQIUe)

533 The world the SJWs envision is one where everyone is forced to be nice and accepting and understanding of everyone else.
------------

Been hitting the bong already I guess.

Posted by: Some headless guy in NE at July 24, 2015 07:43 PM (HstNY)

534 And the Chinese I've known HATE the Japanese.

Rape of Nanking and WWII.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 24, 2015 07:43 PM (X88sA)

535 The 330,000 at Nanking or the 250,000 Chinese after the Doolittle Raid beg to differ on how polite the Japanese racists can be.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 07:43 PM (XYw4l)

536 >4Chan is apparently an offshoot from Anonymous

Backwards. See what reading the Daily Caller gets you?

Posted by: kartoffel at July 24, 2015 07:43 PM (tfR0O)

537 So since it takes the semantically loaded "white
supremacy" angle off the table, is it wrong for Japanese to desire that
their bloodlines, language, and culture remain distinctive and in
control in their own country? Discuss.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 24, 2015 07:34 PM (noWW6)

I have no problem with an homogenous society with the same ideals.

Course, I must be a racist or a Jap?

Diversity adds so much to our society. I would really miss the race riots and rap music.

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 24, 2015 07:44 PM (0FSuD)

538 4Chan is apparently an offshoot from Anonymous

As I understand it, Anonymous arose from 4chan, sort of a bunch of dorks and geeks on a really nasty semi-porn site deciding to flex their computer skills and wear masks inspired by the film V for Vendetta. They don't seem to have any real agenda or plan other than "F you" and hating scientology (their first target).

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 07:44 PM (39g3+)

539 Gabe gives away the farm in his own words by using the phrase "anti-immigration".

Mainstream conservatism isn't anti-immigration, it's anit-illegal-immigration.

Posted by: SGT York at July 24, 2015 07:40 PM (JaMTN)

Bingo. And I'm the first one to argue with anyone who opposes actual immigration.

GABE SUCKS DITCH HIM ACE

Posted by: Alpine Crotch at July 24, 2015 07:44 PM (WhfU/)

540 so this post is still top?
i was hoping with Paola's lull He was writing something more promising to humanity.

Posted by: willow at July 24, 2015 07:45 PM (nqBYe)

541 4Chan is the Internet equivalent of the Pakistani intelligence service that created the Taliban. All kinds of scum, villainy, and fetishes have crawled out of 4Chan.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 07:45 PM (XYw4l)

542 And while I can't stand the SJWs much more than you guys can, (and believe it or not I argue with them as much as I argue with you all) they aren't nearly this bad.

SJWs are worse. They have more power and want to kill many more people.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 24, 2015 07:45 PM (shLnc)

543 522
What kind of adds does a social media active Neo-Nazi get served?

Posted by: Mr. FeverHead at July 24, 2015 07:39 PM (j1Wvr)
Jew-B-Gone?

Posted by: chemjeff not at Fapplebee's at July 24, 2015 07:45 PM (5p18q)

544 Did you really think all those idiots who are marching for "southern heritage" weren't racists?

Posted by: seattle slough

Can you prove that the girl you dated two years ago was able to provide consent?

Fuck off.

Posted by: couch fucker at July 24, 2015 07:46 PM (VFjhH)

545 The people most harmed by illegal immigration are legal immigrants.

If I were boss of America I'd let a legally waiting immigrant in for every illegal alien we caught and booted.

Posted by: Mr. FeverHead at July 24, 2015 07:46 PM (j1Wvr)

546 And while I can't stand the SJWs much more than you guys can, (and believe it or not I argue with them as much as I argue with you all)
Posted by: seattle slough

Oh, argue with them like the NSDAP argued with the Communists?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2015 07:46 PM (VY8H5)

547 Ask someone from the Philippines what they think of the Japs.

Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 07:46 PM (e3bId)

548 Rape of Nanking and WWII.

Yeah the Chinese have a lot of good reasons to be pretty unhappy with the Japanese but... seventy years ago. After a certain point, let it go. I mean its not like the Chinese weren't horrible to the Japanese at points in the past, too.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 07:46 PM (39g3+)

549 swj's certainly have made their lists for the camps or death.

non conforming gaia worshippers for 1.
anyone that doesn't want to bake cakes etc

Posted by: willow at July 24, 2015 07:47 PM (nqBYe)

550 Wait a minute...

Someone is actually trying to defend the Soviet Justice Wankers as misunderstood yutes trying to get their lives straight?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 07:47 PM (XYw4l)

551 This doesn't justify Gabe's sentiment. He's looking for the straw man to put a torch to. There have always been racists, but that doesn't mean these fringe whackjobs are behind the anti-ILLEGAL-immigration sentiment currently being expressed.

Gabe gives away the farm in his own words by using the phrase "anti-immigration".

Mainstream conservatism isn't anti-immigration, it's anit-illegal-immigration.

Yeah, I know I'm repeating myself...some people still won't get the point.
Posted by: SGT York at July 24, 2015 07:40 PM (JaMTN)

bingo. I saw Gabe do the same thing with "gay rights" and anything perceived as anti was, by definition, anti-rights for gay people

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 24, 2015 07:47 PM (7RXcs)

552 The Chinks still think Japan is the "Fifth Providence" and part of China.

They hate the assholes.

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 24, 2015 07:48 PM (0FSuD)

553 What if Gabe is Paolo during his refractory period???

Posted by: MAx at July 24, 2015 07:48 PM (LAliD)

554 Bevel: Outside getting a few professors shit-canned for bullshit reasons, they have no power. Scolds are gonna scold. No one cares.

Posted by: seattle slough at July 24, 2015 07:48 PM (mCz8+)

555 What kind of adds does a social media active Neo-Nazi get served?

Jew-B-Gone?

Nair for your Scalp?

Posted by: Adriane the Cleo Critic ... at July 24, 2015 07:49 PM (qOsoH)

556 Someone is actually trying to defend the Soviet Justice Wankers as misunderstood
---------

He's several bowls in and on a roll!

Posted by: Some headless guy in NE at July 24, 2015 07:49 PM (HstNY)

557 Scolds are gonna scold. No one cares.
Posted by: seattle slough

And yet you remain.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2015 07:49 PM (VY8H5)

558 Never accuse Ace of "punching down", Kenway!

Posted by: andycanuck at July 24, 2015 07:49 PM (kivUY)

559 I think SS has cast itself in the role of Sisyphus. Tis going to be a hard slough when we have examples of the space guy forced to commit sepukku because of his shirt. Or Sir Hunt being maliciously misquoted and the Soviet Justice Wankers lynch mob came for his head.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 07:50 PM (XYw4l)

560 Oh shit, Karl giving the love to RINO Kaschic.

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 24, 2015 07:50 PM (0FSuD)

561 Did anybody see J. Christian Adams' article yesterday about the huge amount of illegal alien crimes in Texas during Obama's time in office? There have been over 600,000 illegal aliens arrested for a variety of crimes, including nearly 3,000 murders, and that's just in ONE state. And those numbers include only the illegal alien criminals who already had their fingerprints on record here (i.e., repeat offenders), so the actual number of crimes committed by illegal aliens is much higher, since many of the newly-arrived illegal alien criminals had not previously been arrested here and had their fingerprints put in the system (and of course, many of them also never get caught, and they go to another state or back to Mexico or where ever after they commit their crimes).

But yeah, lets not talk about the hundreds of thousands of American murdered or raped or robbed every year by illegal alien criminals, and lets not talk about the Hundreds of Billions of dollars that U.S. taxpayers are forced to spend every year educating and feeding and sheltering and prosecuting and incarcerating and providing medical care for illegal aliens. Instead, lets talk about Donald Trump's icky hair, or how some fringe group of crazies said something raaaaacist about somebody. Because clearly that's the best way to debate major issues of public policy.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 24, 2015 07:50 PM (kGrdk)

562 So, here's what I will do. In a crockpot for 4 hours, I will put 2 pounds of boneless skinless chicken thighs, mushroom soup, onions, carrots, white basmati rice, and lemon pepper. When the brethren start eating it next Tuesday, I will show them the picture of old trapped possum Mrs. E sent me. By the way, I did not shoot Sheriff Possum, nor his deputy. I relocated him 2 miles away on condition he not return. His future is in his own paws.

Posted by: Eromero at July 24, 2015 07:51 PM (go5uR)

563 Gabe gives away the farm in his own words by using the phrase "anti-immigration".

Mainstream conservatism isn't anti-immigration, it's anit-illegal-immigration.

Yeah, I know I'm repeating myself...some people still won't get the point.

Posted by: SGT York at July 24, 2015 07:40 PM (JaMTN)

bingo. I saw Gabe do the same thing with "gay rights" and anything
perceived as anti was, by definition, anti-rights for gay people

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah
Gabe's intellectual honesty and legal acumen can be compared to a dog going after road kill.
Witness his joy at SCOTUS ramming through gay marriage one day, closely followed by a pathetic attempt to criticize yet ANOTHER SCOTUS machination for obamacare.
Lawyer jokes aren't invented; they're born.

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 24, 2015 07:51 PM (VFjhH)

564 The Chinks still think Japan is the "Fifth Providence" and part of China

See, this is a problem here. Racism doesn't bother me as much as, say, your average college age girl taking a special class under that hunky professor who talks about social justice but... this is just rude. People from China don't care to be called that. Why go out of your way to be a jerk and offend people deliberately saying a word that upsets them, when the only thing they've ever done to you is exist?

I mean, calling Piers Morgan a gormless jackwagon makes sense, no matter how much it upsets him, because that's about someone who has demonstrated what a prick he is. But deliberately insulting an entire nation of a couple billion for lolz?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 07:51 PM (39g3+)

565 Seriously, I used to know this girl from Ecuador name Paola and she fucked the shit out of me.

Posted by: Alpine Crotch at July 24, 2015 07:53 PM (WhfU/)

566 If we could just arrange for the race warriors on the left to battle the race warriors on the right and then shoot whoever wins. Or set aside separate reservations for them, like somewhere in a desert near a nuclear waste dumping area.

Posted by: AMartel at July 24, 2015 07:53 PM (WWgnZ)

567 People from China don't care to be called that.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor

You are correct.

BTW, what's the most common term for anglos in Chinese?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2015 07:53 PM (VY8H5)

568 I relocated him 2 miles away on condition he not return. His future is in his own paws.

Given how slow they waddle, he'll die of old age before he crosses 2 miles

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 07:53 PM (39g3+)

569 564 is "Japs" ok?

Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 07:53 PM (e3bId)

570 BTW, what's the most common term for anglos in Chinese?

Gwailo. And its equally as insulting and bad. If its wrong for them to do it...

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 07:54 PM (39g3+)

571 I mean, calling Piers Morgan a gormless jackwagon makes sense, no matter how much it upsets him, because that's about someone who has demonstrated what a prick he is. But deliberately insulting an entire nation of a couple billion for lolz?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor

How about calling Piers a "dirty, limey cunt"?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at July 24, 2015 07:54 PM (rVQpn)

572 is "Japs" ok?

... you know when you watch a TV show and someone says "it goes without saying..." then they say it anyway? And you yell at the TV "THEN WHY DID YOU SAY IT???"

Yeah.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 07:55 PM (39g3+)

573 While I am steadfastly against illegal immigration I am also for massively curtailing and redirecting legal immigration.

The U.S. currently has a population of 320 million I do not believe America can survive as a country of 400, 500, 600.. million.

We have never had the sort of unprecidented wave of immigrantion.

And it is a misnomer to say that the U.S. is a country of immigrants, every country is a country of immigrants.

We have had periods of increased immigration and pauses to allow for integration and assimilation.

We have never before had this level of immigration with virtually no affirmative assimilation.

Assimilation if it happens at all is accidental.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 24, 2015 07:55 PM (PaAcR)

574 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 07:55 PM

If you enjoy picking fights with human nature, I know of this neat political movement you might be interested in.

Posted by: kartoffel at July 24, 2015 07:56 PM (tfR0O)

575 Bevel: Outside getting a few professors shit-canned for bullshit
reasons, they have no power. Scolds are gonna scold. No one cares.

SJWs run the media. They're the ones fighting the culture war and pushing the Overton window ever leftwards.

They're the ones who shamed an accomplished scientist for wearing a Hawaiian shirt celebrating Strong and Sexy Women on "misogynist" grounds.

They're the ones who just banned the CBF from stores all over the nation because "racist". Censoring historical games and books in the process - airbrushing history because double-plus-ungood symbols.

They have plenty of power ... power that we yielded to them. The good news is that we can take back that power and make the irrelevant. The bad news is that you don't have a clue who SJWs are. Or maybe you do, and you're not interested in us fighting actual enemies.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 24, 2015 07:56 PM (0NdlF)

576 Alright! Troll seattle slough is back and spouting bullshit just like the old days.

Tell me, SS, was the African-American guy waving the CBF who was killed by "your" African-Americans in a car chase "accident" a white supremacist too?

Posted by: andycanuck at July 24, 2015 07:56 PM (kivUY)

577 Does *anyone* know what Gabe was talking about?

Posted by: SpicWopKikeBeanerChinkWASP at July 24, 2015 07:57 PM (JA24N)

578 If you enjoy picking fights with human nature, I know of this neat political movement you might be interested in.

I'm just saying it costs you nothing and its easy to avoid using slurs and personal attacks on entire groups of people. You know? Why be an ass to people you don't even know?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 07:57 PM (39g3+)

579 Brits = good
Japs = racist

Posted by: andycanuck at July 24, 2015 07:57 PM (kivUY)

580 Just remember Fi, Soviet Justice Wankers can't get easily to sleep because they fear someone somewhere is having fun.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 07:57 PM (XYw4l)

581 Weasel Woman is a cracker, but I use 'Japs' and other un-PC terms frequently to torment her. Like referring to handicap spaces in the parking lot as cripple parking.

Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 07:58 PM (e3bId)

582 Did you really think all those idiots who are marching for "southern heritage" weren't racists?

Posted by: seattle slough

Ever consider the possibility that you are the one who is a racist?
.
.
.
Link in nic to article on black man killed for carrying CBF

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2015 07:58 PM (NaeCR)

583
Witness his joy at SCOTUS ramming through gay marriage one day, closely followed by a pathetic attempt to criticize yet ANOTHER SCOTUS machination for obamacare.
Posted by: Blue Hen

His child on Christmas morning glee at Obama's EOs on illegals and gay rights expansion. You could see him giggling in delight on twitter as Obama clear-cut existing laws by fiat.

GM is very -- results orientated. His worship of law and process is situational.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 24, 2015 07:58 PM (kdS6q)

584 Is it time to distract the Humans? I think it is.

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/selection-du-weekend-150-9.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 24, 2015 07:58 PM (XYw4l)

585 You eat what you shoot or feed what you shoot to the pigs and then eat bacon.
Win-Win.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at July 24, 2015 07:59 PM (uPxUo)

586 Dodgers up 6 -0 on the Mets.

Good News, though. It's only the 3rd inning.

...so, conceivably, the Mets could come back.

Posted by: Garrett at July 24, 2015 07:59 PM (S0Ca+)

587 We have never had the sort of unprecidented wave of immigrantion.

We have never before had this level of immigration with virtually no affirmative assimilation.

Assimilation if it happens at all is accidental.

Posted by: Kreplach

I disagree with the first and third statements. The second is apt, and vital. Every preceding group felt a need to assimilate, though the enclaves to be found in both rural and urban areas are famous. NY had over a dozen Yiddish publications, and there was, I kid you not, a 'Little Newfoundland'.

What's happening now, especially the tie to public spending is new. Changes to voting isn't; Tamany Hall was among the first of the political machines to capitalize on immigrant populations.

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 24, 2015 07:59 PM (VFjhH)

588 If these f-uckservatives are not lefties in disguise then they're inadvertent lefties in disguise, coopting the conservative name but only undermining conservative aims. They WANT to stymie immigration reforms so they have reason to continue being upset about non-whites in America. They WANT a race war. They WANT the drama and the feels and the unearned righteousness just as bad as the idiot racists on the left do. Cage match is only good solution.

Posted by: AMartel at July 24, 2015 08:00 PM (WWgnZ)

589 And if the Japs didn't want me calling them names, then maybe they should have stayed the fuck away from Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: Weasel at July 24, 2015 08:01 PM (e3bId)

590 I think Ace and Gabe are in for a surprise. USA is similar to China at the turn of the century. Tea Party was a Boxer rebellion.

Posted by: aSurprise at July 24, 2015 08:01 PM (PGh+Q)

591 I only use Japs when I am in WW2 mode, e.g., the japs bombed Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2015 08:01 PM (iQIUe)

592 There's a Moon-Nood. Mood?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 24, 2015 08:02 PM (0NdlF)

593 Yeah the people protesting the airbrushing of history are hysterical racists. The other side going around desecrating graves and war memorials? Just awesome.

Posted by: Andrea Wachowski at July 24, 2015 08:02 PM (HstNY)

594 . I relocated him 2 miles away on condition he not return. His future is in his own paws.

Posted by: Eromero at July 24, 2015 07:51 PM (go5uR)

Heh, you gave your possum to somebody else.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2015 08:02 PM (NaeCR)

595 As an aside to the immigration issue and racism:

Race has nothing to do with it. How is "illegal" racist? It isn't. The race card is thrown about precisely to avoid a central issue of law and lawlessness. The economics and social consequences of policy are important; and so is law.

And what we are talking about is ILLEGAL immigration - not a racist term - that is euphemized to death by those who want to avoid this basic, indisputable fact.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 24, 2015 08:03 PM (1CroS)

596 Gwailo. And its equally as insulting and bad. If its wrong for them to do it...
Posted by: Christopher Taylor

And if you were to mount a campaign to curb that, what would happen?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 24, 2015 08:03 PM (VY8H5)

597
576
Alright! Troll seattle slough is back and spouting bullshit just like the old days.

Oh! Known troll. His name was mentioned in some previous threads, too.

My bad.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 24, 2015 08:05 PM (0NdlF)

598 Yeah the Chinese have a lot of good reasons to be pretty unhappy with the Japanese but... seventy years ago.

After a certain point, let it go.

Crusades. 600+ years ago. Let it go.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 24, 2015 08:05 PM (X88sA)

599 I get that Stormfront is off-limits for respectable AoSHQ conservatives. Yes, beyond the pale. Can't call people "mud." Yes, of course. Now, are Vdare and Takimag equally off-limits? Is "race-realism" == "white-supremacism?" Is AmRen acceptably readable and quotable by the AoSHQ moron horde? Immigration-restrictionism suddenly makes us feel dirty? Where is the AoSHQ race-discussion-decency line being drawn today?

Posted by: gp at July 24, 2015 08:06 PM (mk9aG)

600 Anna: that is one big nanner.

I disagree with the first and third statements. The second is apt, and vital. Every preceding group felt a need to assimilate, though the enclaves to be found in both rural and urban areas are famous. NY had over a dozen Yiddish publications, and there was, I kid you not, a 'Little Newfoundland'.

I agree. It takes about 3 generations for immigrants to properly assimilate, in most cases. All big cities have the remnants of various ethnic neighborhoods, although most are gone now. Hamtramk in Detroit where Poles lived, Chinatowns, etc. In Chicago it was almost like they planned it out on purpose, so you could go from neighborhood to neighborhood getting Greek food and Chinese lamps and Spanish ham by driving a few blocks apart.

The problem is our reaction, not theirs. The Italians probably would have rather we printed everything in Italian as well as English and had Italian as an option on the telephone too, 80 years ago. Its the fact that we're making it so easy to NOT assimilate that's the flaw.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 24, 2015 08:06 PM (39g3+)

601 This is very suspicious to me. This could be the beginning of an attack against the right-wing blog sphere by leftist posing as whit supremacists. The object being to link them to acts of violence, requiring government action to come in and shut them down.

Posted by: WalterKronk at July 24, 2015 08:06 PM (6lUIi)

602 579 Brits = good
Japs = racist

Posted by: andycanuck at July 24, 2015 07:57 PM (kivUY)

~~

Friendly Canadians should be called cans because who doesn't like nice cans?

Posted by: Mr. FeverHead at July 24, 2015 08:07 PM (j1Wvr)

603 I would never use a stupidism like "cuckservative" but I would cop to being a "white supremacist" with the caveat that nearly everybody is a white conservative. Do you want to live in a white neighborhood? Well, you and roughly 100% of white people. And if you want to live in a white neighborhood, you also want to live a white county in a white state in a white country. So that makes you a white supremacist. You know who else are white supremacists? All the billionaires who think it's fine if somebody else's kids go to school with all the immigrants, but would never in a million years send their own kids to public schools. White supremacists all, if they're being honest with themselves.

Let's take the example of Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dorn, since Ace brought it up. They adopted the child of Kathy Boudin, who was jailed after a robbery that went wrong and killed three cops. Being anti-racists, Ayers and Dorn took the kid and put him in public schools in Harlem. Here is from a book about the situation: "Leonard [Boudin] berated Bernardine . . . about the lower-middle-class black and Hispanic children who were in the majority in PS 9. "My grandson must attend a traditional school. The little children are roughnecks and have no manners." Bernardine found him infuriating."

OK, so you know how this ends. Dorn and Ayers, living on the South side of Chicago, put the kid in the private Chicago Lab school. So there you go: even Ayers and Dorn are white supremacists! And so is famous lefty civil rights lawyer Leonard Boudin. And so are you. I'm in good company.

Posted by: bjk at July 24, 2015 08:07 PM (x2rNW)

604 "the race warriors on the right"

They only look like they are on the 'right' if you are standing there with Lenin.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 24, 2015 08:09 PM (NaeCR)

605 They dont have to assimilate. In the olden days, once here, most stayed and few even vistited their homeland. There were no cheap phone calls or films or television. Sure there was theatre in their native language but it was not as slick as the American entertainment.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 24, 2015 08:09 PM (iQIUe)

606 Although I feel Chateau Heartise is a life changing place for men....I have to say it sucks to see the anti Semitism there and in places like Return of Kings. This is not a "troll job", there is definitely a movement of people like Ace was describing. We are going to be encountering it from here on out. Some of us have even heard it from our "conservative" friends. "What has Israel done for us?" "Israel is concerned about Jews first, why can't we do the same? "I like how Putin is pushing back against the gay mafia". These thoughts are just isolated to Retuen of Kings, they are growing.

The sad thing is that a vision of America as color blind was always possible, but it would go against the leftist narrative...so we can't have that.

Posted by: Danny Donkey at July 24, 2015 08:12 PM (QqSuP)

607 "I swear to you upon a stack of... what does an agnostic swear upon?"
________

I don't know.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 24, 2015 08:12 PM (67RmU)

608 This is a complex topic, by which I mean I could write a wall-o-text comment about it but I don't even know where to begin.

White Americans are probably the least racist people on Earth. That wasn't always the case, of course, but it has been for the last 40-50 years or so. We supported and passed legislation like the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, and even affirmative action, in an attempt to remediate past wrongs. It was "white guilt" more than anything that enabled the election of our first black President.

What have we whites gotten in return? Relentless demonization, and it's only getting worse. School curricula that obsess over slavery and segregation fuel black resentment, and the invasion of Hispanics from Mexico and Central America is trumpeted by an outfit that explicitly calls itself "The Race".

Politicians who say "all lives matter" are heckled and shouted down by those who insist that only black lives matter.

White taxpayers have spent upwards of a trillion dollars in Great Society programs, yet we are still faced with angry demands for "reparations".

White people who use deadly force in self-defense against black attackers are hounded out of their jobs and forced into hiding.

The media breathlessly predicts that whites will become a minority in another generation, as if that were an inevitable fact of nature. It is not. It is deliberate government policy, apparently. Consider what happens more or less everywhere that whites become a minority. It isn't pretty, and it's understandable that most white people are not looking forward to it.

Now the federal government wants to forcibly relocate Section 8 housing into peaceful white majority suburbs. This is guaranteed to increase crime and violence in neighborhoods that have not known it.

The educational system brainwashes students with the notion that the achievements and wealth creation by white people are the result of a mysterious "white privilege", and not a culture that values reason, honesty, and hard work.

Every other race and culture on Earth is taught to be proud of their history. Only whites are taught to be ashamed.

The ideals of the "melting pot" and "color-blind society" were great, but they are as dead as the dodo. America is being balkanized into mutually warring groups; a zero-sum society where if one race gets a bigger piece of the pie, another race gets screwed.

White people are going to have to become more explicitly racially conscious. We have no choice. If we don't, we will be annihilated.

This is the world the progs have created. It is going to get a whole lot worse.

Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2015 08:15 PM (sdi6R)

609 Also, man of these race warriors are actually "socialist". If you read the Chateau comments (which I have done to learn about "game" but usually end up taking in nasty racism) you'll hear everything from "we can afford big government...if we didn't waste money on nonwhites" to "people need strong leaders to tell them what to do"...fans of individual choice they are not. Like it or not, this is something that conservatives will have to face. Chateau Heartise predicts America will split apart in 50 years...I desparetly hope he is wrong

Posted by: Danny Donkey at July 24, 2015 08:16 PM (QqSuP)

610 Posted by: aSurprise at July 24, 2015 08:01 PM (PGh+Q)

What an ignoramus. The Boxer rebellion was a revolt against people who were not native Chinese also-against foreign influences. Much of it was directed towards Chinese Christians and missionaries. her's some of what happened:

:Chinese Christians suffered even more greatly, as there were more of them and most were not able to seek refuge in the legations, having to seek shelter elsewhere. Those that were caught were raped as well as tortured and murdered."

from the New World Ecyclopedia

Because slaughtering Christians sounds just like what the tea Party is about. Uh, suuuuuuure

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 24, 2015 08:17 PM (OSs/l)

611 >>>If it works, let's be sure to immediately link him back to Hillary, hmm?

...rumor has it bill told jeb not to worry about trump, things we're in the pipeline.

Posted by: concrete girl at July 24, 2015 08:18 PM (ll1q6)

612 Chateau Heartise predicts America will split apart in 50 years...I desparetly hope he is wrong

Posted by: Danny Donkey at July 24, 2015 08:16 PM (QqSuP)

Fifty years? You'll be lucky to get 50 months before the shit hits the fan.

Posted by: DFCtomm at July 24, 2015 08:21 PM (fUDry)

613 607 "I swear to you upon a stack of... what does an agnostic swear upon?"
________

I don't know.
Posted by: FireHorse at July 24, 2015 08:12 PM (67RmU)

*golf clap*

Posted by: rickl at July 24, 2015 08:22 PM (sdi6R)

614 I agree with post # 601,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 24, 2015 08:25 PM (OSs/l)

615 I just rolled the Cruz speech for time number three. And I just drug myself through the latest movie review. I'll do my best not to fucking bait the host.

If that shit does not piss you off, then you and me don't have much to talk about.

My name is ScoggDog ... and I DO fight over childish things. Because I'm not scared to fight.

Now fucking ban me better ... Or get a fucking clue.

Posted by: RandomPokerHands at July 24, 2015 08:26 PM (ApSlL)

616 "Posted by: Danny Donkey at July 24, 2015 08:12 PM (QqSuP)"

*wants a color blind society*
*thinks pointing out Israel is an ethnostate is beyond the pale*
*thinks LIBERALS are the reason why the vision of a color blind america isn't possible*

Posted by: Johnny at July 24, 2015 08:29 PM (WvGsS)

617 Now fucking ban me better ... Or get a fucking clue.

Get your own blog. Or do you like illegal immigrants all of the sudden?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 24, 2015 08:30 PM (0NdlF)

618 Gabe isn't a thinker. Pretty sure hes a shitty lawyer.

Posted by: AC at July 24, 2015 08:32 PM (TzeLs)

619 I might pay him 20 bucks just to see what advice I shouldn't take on any legal matter.

Posted by: AC at July 24, 2015 08:34 PM (TzeLs)

620 Tweeting it the liberals are. Logical extension of their fetish for putting nooses on doors and trees outside their own domiciles - and blaming it on "racism".

Posted by: Dean Strong at July 24, 2015 08:34 PM (x18S2)

621 Heartiste is strong stuff, Not everyone is ready for the red pill.

Posted by: Casual Indifference at July 24, 2015 08:38 PM (kf36l)

622 No Monster ... I do not like those who violate our borders anymore today than yesterday.

Nor do I tolerate the stupid fucking mewling of those who suddenly "see the light" on the issue. That is not you. That is others.

And I fucking hate their convenient na�vet�. They use it as a shield.

Posted by: RandomPokerHands at July 24, 2015 08:39 PM (ApSlL)

623 The United States government, the media, academia, law, et al have been weaponized against Whites over the past 50 years. We are contantly demonized on multiple fronts, and blamed as the cause of every minority problem, real or imagined. Every other race is celebrated - and expected to look out for their own racial interests. If Whites do the same, they are called "racist", "Nazi", etc. Why is this "cuckservative" ndevelopment shocking in the least? Or should Whites "go quietly into the night" as so many would apparently like?

Posted by: YourMomKeepsTexting at July 24, 2015 08:40 PM (h9Gxj)

624
No Monster ... I do not like those who violate our borders anymore today than yesterday.

Then when ace bans you from his blog, take a hint. Or apologize to get back into his good graces.

Your dislike of illegal immigration rings hollow when you don't respect ace's borders.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 24, 2015 08:43 PM (0NdlF)

625 >>>My name is ScoggDog ... and I DO fight over childish things. Because I'm not scared to fight.

You fight over childish things because you're a fucking child.

Now leave, boy.

Posted by: Jeff B. at July 24, 2015 08:49 PM (ewYO6)

626 "guys, I just told you that there really is, hand to God, an energetic and large-APPEARING movement of white supremacist agitators who have shocked the system since yesterday blah blah blah"

Or maybe you were suckered.

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at July 24, 2015 08:51 PM (faH6u)

627 Yeah... until the twitter accounts are both verified as long standing and consistent in their posting history, you have no idea how large any movement on twitter actually is. That's not considering either the GNAA or Goons and whether they've gotten in on the action.

Posted by: Ravenshrike at July 24, 2015 08:59 PM (DSncV)

628 "I, personally, have just never seen so many accounts pushing the White Race button before, not all at once, not all in concert."

If this stuff was that widespread, wouldn't you have noticed it before? How the hell could you have missed it?

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at July 24, 2015 09:10 PM (faH6u)

629 Pure bull shit. I bet these are actually a bunch of liberals playing pretend on the internet. This is just like all those nooses planted by black people to show faux racism. This is how the left plays.

Posted by: charles w at July 24, 2015 09:14 PM (aWVZk)

630 Per Manhattan Institute scholar Heather Mac Donald: In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.

But remember folks, illegal aliens are more law-abiding than the average U.S. citizen!

And they're only coming here to work jobs that you don't want anyway, you lazy git!

And anybody who says otherwise is obviously just a raaaaaacist, nativist, homophobic, white supremacist loon who's just one beer away from shooting up a black church or a movie theater!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 24, 2015 09:18 PM (kGrdk)

631 Um....WHUT? Twitter is not real life. Don't go down that rabbit hole.

Posted by: Stephanie at July 24, 2015 09:21 PM (Qx077)

632 I call shenanigans. Ever heard of Mobys?

Yeah. And in a similar vein, I think there is no higher proof that Westboro Baptist people are live-action Mobys than that their "church" was not burned to the ground after Obergefell ...

Posted by: southcentralpa at July 24, 2015 09:26 PM (7YZbv)

633 >>>Ace, have you heard of /pol/ from the chans? This is basically their kind of thing.

i had not heard this, but several people (several in this thread, one on twitter) have now suggested this connection to me.

I don't know the whole reddit/4chan/8chan thing. I'm older; to me, the internet is blogs, YouTube, and porn.

Posted by: ace at July 24, 2015 09:26 PM (dciA+)

634 Gabe is a tool.

Posted by: Hobo with a laptop at July 24, 2015 09:33 PM (ljAhW)

635 Until this post, I'd never heard of a cuckservative, or a mud, and I'm not on twitter, so I guess I'll return to my blissful ignorance - already in progress.

Posted by: Jimmy at July 24, 2015 09:39 PM (MwsYt)

636 Gabe is not being logical.

His bias and spasms of weepy stupidity are really old.

He is good at other stuff.

Posted by: eman at July 24, 2015 09:55 PM (MQEz6)

637 You should be ashamed you use Twitter, Ace.

Jesus man.

Twitter?

Posted by: Skarp Hedin at July 24, 2015 10:05 PM (wffAQ)

638 Racism is tempting of late. Being white I am a target and all this white privilege crap has me really ticked off. I've always said I'm a 'culturist' I despise cultures and their members who promulgate evil. Evil like promoting hatred and objectifying women or sitting on your ass collecting welfare when you are able bodied. That sort of thing.

But I have friends who have always hated negroes and 'mezkins' and queers ... although they tolerated them and gave them an even break for for the most part. But these friends are good to me. Because I'm white and I'm good to them.

But I resist fully sliding over to their side. Because if we really go full racist ... we will, eventually, have to become killers, murderers. And I can't do that.

Posted by: NUECES at July 24, 2015 10:08 PM (avlDR)

639 Ace,

twitter is for idiots and ADD addled douchebags

It is a truly cringeworthy medium

Narcissism is now defined as Buttfacebookaholics and Twitteraholics

Its like vomiting and shitting at the same time without the fun.

Posted by: Gordian Knot of corruption at July 24, 2015 10:15 PM (LPHFE)

640 I'm not white.

I'm not black.

I refuse to choose sides.

Unfortunately, there are those on both sides that feel compelled to make me choose sides, simply because of my melanin content.

And I don't care if you're black or white or whatever, if you attack me or mine,

I. Will. Fuck. You. Up.

If being an American isn't enough, you can eat a bag of dicks.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 24, 2015 10:19 PM (kmtse)

641 You and me both, SMFH. You and me both.

Posted by: Armando at July 24, 2015 10:41 PM (dcCJA)

642 We do all understand that the "pushback" by the white supremacist / white nationalist crowd in response to the race-baiting SJWs is the exact response the SJW / race-baiting crowd is deliberately trying to provoke, yes?

This isn't a case of unintended consequences. They live for this shit- they actively court it, hoping the gullible knee-jerk faction of the right will fall into their trap.

The best way to win is not to play. They'll make the same mistake the left always makes- going too far and making fools of themselves in the public eye. Now, just when they're finally overplaying their hand and starting to lose, they're thrown a lifeline by the out and proud white nationalism idiots.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 24, 2015 10:50 PM (X9Mnx)

643 Quick drive-by 'cause I got to this late....sounds like total astroturf to me. I could easily believe it was concocted by lefty racists to try to peg racism on people who believe that citizens deserve to have their interests looked after by their government.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 24, 2015 11:04 PM (EzgxV)

644 Super late to the party but couldn't resist. White supremacists are mostly socialist leaning leftards. Fuckem. They have nothing in common with actual conservatives.

Posted by: ElKomandante at July 24, 2015 11:23 PM (APQ2q)

645 There are plenty of racists on the open borders side as well.

Posted by: JohnJ at July 24, 2015 11:25 PM (TF/YA)

646 "Posted by: ElKomandante at July 24, 2015 11:23 PM (APQ2q)"

If you think economic policy decides conservatism then you're probably not a conservative.

Posted by: Johnny at July 24, 2015 11:37 PM (WvGsS)

647 You want to see White Supremacy masquerading as conservatism?

Look in the comments section of any article on Takimag.

Posted by: Hikaru at July 24, 2015 11:44 PM (FrHC0)

648 OK, I have 2 observations. Well, the first is really sort of a question.

If I observe that white people have way outperformed all the other peoples of the world in seemingly every endeavor - and am not only not ashamed to be among them, but proud of it - does that fit the definition of a "White Supremicist"?

Or do you have to get genocidal about it to qualify? Maybe it depends on what you're after in throwing the term around.

Posted by: Optimizer at July 25, 2015 12:01 AM (/q6+P)

649 Second, I - like Vic (I think it was, somewhere WAY up there) - have observed that a large fraction of black people are extremely, unapologetically, and enthusastically in-your-face racist.

Did I say "unapologetic"? That hardly really describes it. What do you call it when you say "Hey, man! What you're saying insults me, my entire family, most of my family, and anyone who looks like me, 'cause it's racist" - and they blow their top and start screaming about the KKK at you?

So the question is, what shall we tell our grandchildren to do, when the time comes when they are OUTNUMBERED by such people?

"Move to another country"?
"Sorry, I didn't confront that racism, and so now you're screwed"?
"Don't worry, I'm sure they'll reform from the ways of racism, just like white people did"?

I'm not seeing any good answers.

Posted by: Optimizer at July 25, 2015 12:10 AM (/q6+P)

650 White Supremacists are like space aliens to me. If there are so many, why haven't I ever seen one?

I don't think its strange that they are suddenly "coming out of the woodwork". The left has been pushing for a race war for years, but hasn't been able to get one because ... well ... most people just don't want that. They've done a pretty good job stoking the underlying racism in the black and Latino communities, but it hasn't had the effect they wanted. So they are upping the anti.

I'm sure there are a few confused white people who feel like they are finally getting the attention they deserve, or whatever - like that kid that shot up the black church. But they're suckers. They are being played.

This sudden white supremacy movement is being pushed from behind by all the usual suspects. Its bullshit.

Posted by: fretless at July 25, 2015 12:14 AM (TtMyK)

651 649
I - like Vic (I think it was, somewhere WAY up there) - have observed that a large fraction of black people are extremely, unapologetically, and enthusastically in-your-face racist.

Posted by: Optimizer at July 25, 2015 12:10 AM (/q6+P)

Oh, that's a good point, which I neglected to include in my 8:15 pm screed.

In the universities, "Critical Race Theory" teaches that only white people can be racist, because of the "power structure" or some such.

This despite the fact that demonstrably unqualified people are required by law to be hired, promoted, and are essentially un-fireable solely on the basis of their skin color.

Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2015 12:31 AM (sdi6R)

652 Been a while commenting here, but I get all kinds of hell from friends because my girlfriend is blonde and blue-eyed, like me. "Dude, are you racist?" No, dude, she's a beautiful woman and she loves me. If she was black or Asian it wouldn't matter. (to be honest, I'm inclined towards brunettes, but Lynda Carter is too old for me.

Posted by: otcconan at July 25, 2015 01:33 AM (kMuw3)

653 Two quick observations:

First, volume of traffic on Twitter is a terrible way to measure the the number of individuals who hold a given idea. As W B Yeats observed

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity

and people full of passsionate intensity generate a lot more tweets than do those who lack all conviction.

Second, how often has it happened that a racist incident - the posting of some vile graffito on a college campus - proved to have been done by an SJW out to make a point? If none of those tweets are being posted by leftists out to undermine the anti-illegal position, I'll eat my laptop. What proportion of them are bogus? There's no way to tell; but on the principal that the worst are full of passionate intensity, I would guess that it's higher than we suspect.

Posted by: Brown Line at July 25, 2015 03:34 AM (a5bF3)

654 I naturally assumed it was some sort of list of conservatives who were requesting Paolo to sleep with their wives.

Posted by: TallDave at July 25, 2015 03:35 AM (74ZYB)

655 Remember Trent Lott? #cuckservatives made him step down

Posted by: Orthodox at July 25, 2015 06:21 AM (Yq9vk)

656 Every race is racist. Every ethnicity thinks that they are the shit. We've been programmed to believe that to have tribal feelings is the worse thing in the world. I think it's an overplayed hand that is past its expiration date.

Posted by: rechill at July 25, 2015 08:08 AM (IIRUt)

657 Suppose all you knew about a person was his descent from the Kenyan highlands. You'd be a fool to make a large bet that you could beat him in a 20 mile foot race, wouldn't you? That sliver of the human gene pool starts with an edge in that endeavor. Doesn't mean you couldn't win that bet in any individual case, but the smart money's against you.

Mix in a dash of Baye's theorem and you've got it. Straight up racism. Call it names or refute it, doesn't matter to me.

Posted by: Oh Hell No at July 25, 2015 10:12 AM (CKGil)

658 First Gabe writes about gamergate and goes full retard, now this bullshit takes it to 11. It's obvious that the reason this stings so badly is because simply, the slur is true. Most conservatives are so eager bend over on the race issue(lube optional) they end up being indistinguishable from SJWs. Conservatives are thrilled to talk about Black on Black violence, willing to talk about the ultra rare White on Black violence, and more likely to pore molten gold down their throats than to discuss the veritable smorgasbord Black on White violence. As I said to my friend recently in an email, Black crime is not the crime, noticing is the crime. Once you've internalized this, you have lost.

Posted by: baldur5 at July 25, 2015 10:34 AM (pV/hT)

659 Pretty much any white guy who appologizes for being white

Posted by: didnt do nuffin at July 25, 2015 04:41 PM (GfiRS)

660 Um, the dead women were white. the shooter, white. Confused racist, or just another lonely loser taking it out on the world? I'm going with #2, but make your own choice.

This America is going to split stuff is making my head hurt. I guess I'll be living on the border of Native Born and Legal Immigrant, so I can see my wife. Maybe I can get a visa to see the kids.

Posted by: MarkD at July 25, 2015 10:51 PM (PG3G4)

661
ACE! :::

(In case it hasn't already been mentioned

Consider that a substantial number of these Twitter "racists" are TROLLS from the LEFT - trying to insinuate that the right is FULL of evil racists!!!!

(I have no idea because I don't [currently] float in the Twitter world - as I have no Twitter account.)

Posted by: _Dave_ at July 26, 2015 02:24 AM (l2dSQ)

662 Ace, maybe you need to learn the difference between a White Supremacist and someone who is sick and tired of being portrayed as both an evil genius of oppression and at the same time a clueless rube whose ignorance is holding back "progress." There is a huge difference, but when Gabe and OLH toss out the EVIL WHITE SUPREMACIST label, all debate ends. Who else do we know that uses such tactics?

I find it grating and alarming that you instantly resort to the liberal conventional thinking that non-White racial identity is great, White racial identity 100% bad. I can get that at The Daily Kos, and they have a better comment system as well.

Charles Johnson's ghost is starting to rattle chains in AOSHQ's attic.

Posted by: MC Slammer at July 27, 2015 11:41 AM (eKIg1)

663 You WILL NOT feel better, but your vision will improve five points:

EVERYONE IS A RACIST.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it with class A Ganja.

Meh.

OK

Right ???

Posted by: Ray at July 27, 2015 11:28 PM (AVxHd)

664 Just a reminder, Mencken was completely racist.

Posted by: MPC at July 28, 2015 03:44 AM (3u2M9)

665 Gabe is just another metrosexual.

Posted by: Veritas at July 29, 2015 03:18 PM (AV5BN)

666 Look, this is all about immigration. In a few years Republicans won't be electable to a national office. In a few more years they'll be a permanent minority at the state level. Republicans and conservatives are lame ducks being swept into the dustbin of history because of their support for open borders. You are rapidly becoming irrelevant. This isn't an attempt to co-opt conservatism, this is many white people reacting to your coming irrelevancy. You act as if this is still 1980 and politics are still the same, but it's not. This is a multi-racial, multicultural empire, politics is a zero-sum game, and the powers that be no longer have to fear a white political backlash. The old Republican/Conservative narrative is simply useless to soon-to-be minority whites. They'll either engage in what your type likes to disparage as "tribal politics" (but only when its whites) or they'll be robbed blind. This isn't a power struggle, it's a paradigm shift, caused by demographics, and it's only just beginning.

P.S. - You might be a cuckservative if you believe that letting in millions of immigrants to get 40% of their votes is good politics. Response of Republicans and Conservatives to the paradigm shift - support amnesty.

Posted by: BillB at July 30, 2015 11:48 PM (2mALu)

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