The Donor Class, Which Is Stupid, Has Mistaken Itself for Clever, and Other Things You Already Knew

Their big idea was to convince Jeb!, Walker, and Rubio to announce they were boycotting any debate in which Trump is present, in order, I guess, to make Trump even more popular and elect him president.

There are two things that can happen with Trump:

1. He can either fizzle or be beaten by other candidates noting his prior support for partial birth abortion, or

2. He can actually win.

Let me just note that if the other candidates cannot beat Trump, given his prior support of liberal candidates and causes, and still refuse to treat the immigration issue as anything more than lie-to-the-base-and-stay-true-to-the-US-Chamber, then they deserve to lose, and I will laugh and laugh as I cast my vote for Trump in both the primary and the general.

Come what may -- come what may.

Either you fools and eunuchs know how to play a man's game, or you don't.

And if you don't -- then to hell with you.

Posted by: Ace at 04:12 PM

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1 the mind boggles

Posted by: Grump928(c) pale penis person at July 23, 2015 04:13 PM (evdj2)

2 Looks like it's about time to run up to the liquor store...

Posted by: The Chi at July 23, 2015 04:15 PM (EfRAJ)

3 But Ben Nelson!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 23, 2015 04:16 PM (W5DcG)

4
Reposted for sheer awesome.

Wonder if Trump still plans to implement this?
Because I am digging it.

4 brackets; 1-5-10-15%; kill death tax corporate tax
My
5-part tax plan involves reforming the income tax. The government
confiscates way too much of your paycheck. The tax code is also a very
complicated system that forces Americans to waste 6.1 billion hours a
year trying to figure it out.

What does that tell you? It tells me that it's time we restore simplicity sanity to the income tax. Here's my income tax plan:

Up to $30,000, you pay 1%
From $30,000 to $100,000, you pay 5%
From $100,000 to $1 million, you pay 10%
On $1 million or above, you pay 15%

It's
clear and fair. Best of all, it can be filled out on the back of a
postcard and will save Americans big bucks on accountants and massive
amounts of time wasted attempting to decipher the tax code.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 04:16 PM (cNtqS)

5 The form of the Destroyer has been chosen.

And it ain't no marshmallow man this time, either.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 23, 2015 04:16 PM (2l5vw)

6 Huzzah for your stand. Men, indeed. There must be 2 of us left anyway.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at July 23, 2015 04:16 PM (MVitU)

7 I don't usually screw the pooch, but when I do the chicken is next.

Posted by: The Most Interesting GOP In The World at July 23, 2015 04:16 PM (ukNFU)

8 This?

This is the Real Post you were touting?

Posted by: Garrett at July 23, 2015 04:18 PM (dlJT5)

9 The reasonable methods have failed. Time for a Crazy Eddie solution.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 23, 2015 04:18 PM (2l5vw)

10 "And a recarpeted egomaniac shall lead them"

Posted by: Book of Revulsion chap 666 at July 23, 2015 04:19 PM (Spluw)

11 Fools and eunuchs.

Which one am i?

Posted by: Jeb Bush at July 23, 2015 04:19 PM (6E2GS)

12 The Dems would happily vote for a jar of vaseline if it was nominated. Only the GOPers would abstain from the vote for the vaseline, allowing the ass to win by default.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at July 23, 2015 04:19 PM (MVitU)

13 I don't think I will vote for Trump. His actions in the past are simply too liberal and I think he is pretty much like Chris Christie, just rich and not fat.

Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 23, 2015 04:19 PM (GpgJl)

14 He can get pushed out and run third-party, which benefits Cankles. And while that seems a stretch, it is right to be afraid of this.

He'll have to start spending his own money soon, and if his numbers don't improve he'll scorch the earth behind him out the door. He's rich because he's tight with his money. Not yours.

Posted by: spongeworthy at July 23, 2015 04:19 PM (KbhWO)

15 I choke my chicken to the thought that I am better than those Trump supporters. They probably worship some sky wizard too.

Posted by: Mr. Doo Doo at July 23, 2015 04:19 PM (OD2ni)

16 "I will laugh and laugh as I cast my vote for Trump in both the primary and the general."

Welcome Aboard Ace! Just a couple things though. You must bring Paolo with you as your co-signer, and of course, you must shower...just this once. We promise.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at July 23, 2015 04:19 PM (Ixbid)

17 Aye, Ace! Har, har. But, you know, there's still that Hillary thing out there. And a lot of stupid people.

Posted by: Eromero at July 23, 2015 04:20 PM (go5uR)

18
"Either you fools and eunuchs know how to play a man's game, or you don't."

THAT'S SEXIST AND TRANSPHOBIC! NOH8!

Posted by: Shrieking SJWs at July 23, 2015 04:20 PM (9TK8E)

19 Some assclown from Univision tried to slime Trump during his presser a few minutes ago saying that Trump was bigoted against all Latinos and Trump shut him down, told him that this was what was wrong with the msm and then announced to cheers from the audience that he was suing Univision for $500 million.

He is a clown but he is a useful clown for now.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2015 04:20 PM (OGm46)

20 Paolo should move to DC.

Posted by: Feh at July 23, 2015 04:20 PM (LWyqh)

21 Products of Misconception.

Posted by: Garrett at July 23, 2015 04:20 PM (dlJT5)

22 Trump is an Ass.

Until I see a "real" candidate talking about a Border Fence and stopping Illegal Immigration, I'll ride that jack-ass.

Guns
The Border
The Economy

Winning issues

Posted by: rd at July 23, 2015 04:20 PM (X7Dmb)

23 "9 The reasonable methods have failed. Time for a Crazy Eddie solution."

I remember how those turned out.

Posted by: West at July 23, 2015 04:21 PM (6E2GS)

24 Fools and eunuchs.
Which one am i?
Posted by: Jeb Bush

Yes.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 23, 2015 04:21 PM (X88sA)

25 <sigh>

Well, it was a nice republic while it lasted.

Posted by: Arnold at July 23, 2015 04:21 PM (XiVKO)

26 Wait...did Ace just announce that he's now a Trumptard?

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at July 23, 2015 04:21 PM (Mtb58)

27
Given that every single new Bloom County cartoon has lampooned the Donald it may be that he coaxed Berke Breathed out of retirement.

So that's one good thing.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 23, 2015 04:21 PM (JtwS4)

28 I'm seeing an interesting trend with Trump. The initial reaction to his candidacy for most clear-thinking people was something like disgust, but over the last few weeks, we've seen something close to serious support emerge (at least here among the Horde). Do people just see Trump as a stand in for the SMOD or are people thinking that he can actually win the presidency, and if so, would be a better president than the other choices?

Posted by: joe at July 23, 2015 04:21 PM (KUaJL)

29 From now on just call us cuckservatives.

Posted by: GOPe at July 23, 2015 04:21 PM (oFCZn)

30 Fools and eunuchs.

Which one am i?

Posted by: Jeb Bush

Allow me to explain to you the concept of a Venn diagram...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 23, 2015 04:21 PM (2l5vw)

31 Scankles will NOT get the nom. I linked to a site on the morning thread that said at least one Democrat is already talking give her the boot.

Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 23, 2015 04:21 PM (GpgJl)

32 they deserve to lose, and I will laugh and laugh as I cast my vote for Trump in both the primary and the general.

threadwinnah!!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 23, 2015 04:22 PM (JO9+V)

33 "I will laugh and laugh as I cast my vote for Trump in both the primary and the general."

I had 3 former Obama voters tell me the same thing about 2 hours ago. All black women and hate Hillary.

Posted by: wrg500 at July 23, 2015 04:22 PM (sWgE+)

34 Trump is SMOD personified, as a previous commenter noted.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 23, 2015 04:22 PM (kmtse)

35 Let me explain how many people actually VOTE for a candidate based on their performance in a primary debate:

Z E R O.

Let me say that again for the retards with the National Republican Committee:

Z E R O.

How much can a political party boost a marginal candidate by keeping him or her from the debates?

Plenty.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 23, 2015 04:22 PM (NjiZL)

36 I'm with you, Vic. Trump is a lesson the GOPe needs to learn. If it doesn't, then it can stay in the playpen with the wubby blanket until it does.

Posted by: Feh at July 23, 2015 04:22 PM (LWyqh)

37 Alextopia can't arrive soon enough.

Posted by: Garrett at July 23, 2015 04:23 PM (dlJT5)

38 Fvck !Yeb!

Posted by: Paolo at July 23, 2015 04:23 PM (Ixbid)

39 The Republican donor class can NOT allow Trump to step in and threaten all that sweet 'green energy' money and future 'Iranian market' money that will soon be flowing.

Why did the (R)s vote for the Iran deal?

Follow the money.

Trump is a big crude spotlight that just clicked on to the GOP roaches in the pantry.

Looking at you Rick Perry.

[*][*]

Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 04:23 PM (cNtqS)

40
"I don't think I will vote for Trump. His actions in the past are simply too liberal and I think he is pretty much like Chris Christie, just rich and not fat."

I agree, but he is raising some issues that are legitimate concerns for conservatives. Thus, calling supporters idiots and crazies is a stupid strategy.

Posted by: Benji Carver at July 23, 2015 04:23 PM (OD2ni)

41 Given that every single new Bloom County cartoon has lampooned the Donald it may be that he coaxed Berke Breathed out of retirement. So that's one good thing.
Posted by: Bandersnatch

You think so? He's always been the sneering leftist that most others in the media are. Snoopy had a better grasp of nuclear power than that guy hd 20 years ago.

Posted by: Book of Revulsion chap 666 at July 23, 2015 04:24 PM (Spluw)

42 The big tent establishment types have principles, you fcuking whackobirds!

Posted by: Fritz at July 23, 2015 04:24 PM (o/UmK)

43 Donald Trump's tears can cure cancer. Too bad he never cries.

Posted by: Chuck Norris at July 23, 2015 04:24 PM (E5UB0)

44 I just made my first campaign bumper sticker for my are...

TRUMP 2016!
The Roof. The Roof, The Roof is on Fire...

Posted by: Kasper Hauser at July 23, 2015 04:24 PM (HqpV0)

45 Do people just see Trump as a stand in for the SMOD or are people thinking that he can actually win the presidency, and if so, would be a better president than the other choices?

SMOD
Can't be any worse than what we've had. Any maybe not as bad as some possibles.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 23, 2015 04:24 PM (X88sA)

46 Trump will not get the nomination and will run as an independent. He will peel away about 25% of the Repub vote. It'll be a low-turnout election.

Hillary - 45%
Jeb! - 30%
Trump - 17%

Posted by: johnd01 at July 23, 2015 04:24 PM (ukNFU)

47 Trump's like SMOD, yes. He can win, maybe. He'd be better than Hillary, definitely.

Posted by: Feh at July 23, 2015 04:24 PM (LWyqh)

48 40 I agree, but he is raising some issues that are
legitimate concerns for conservatives. Thus, calling supporters idiots
and crazies is a stupid strategy.

Posted by: Benji Carver at July 23, 2015 04:23 PM (OD2ni)

I have not slimed any supporters.

Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 23, 2015 04:24 PM (GpgJl)

49 Oh, and by the way, I like Trump.

Posted by: johnd01 at July 23, 2015 04:25 PM (ukNFU)

50 then they deserve to lose,

Exactly.

Debate him.
Debate the issues.
What cowards.

When I posted this issue earlier, I noted that the NYTimes my be baiting us. I haven't checked the hotair link Ace put here, but it could be bait to divide.

But, I believe it, even if there is no proof.

Most of them are cowards and fools.

Cruz came out, in support of the part he agrees with, and explains.

Fiorina isn't playing this game, she is slowly and steadily sticking to the topics, and turning each interview to her favor.

I'm not sure where Walker stands on this.

But, like someone else said when we were discussing this (Puma?) It would be awesome if Jeb!, and Rubio didn't show, but Walker did.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 23, 2015 04:25 PM (qCMvj)

51 Brattleboro will be voting for Senator Sanders and if Senator Sanders is not on the ballot then we will vote for Presdent Oblama again. That picture that fat slob Limbaugh posted is a lie also. That probably was a rally supporting our Presdent of Color and probably Bush had sometinhg to do with that lie also.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at July 23, 2015 04:25 PM (lNSdJ)

52 SMOD has failed to declare his candidacy. All Dead Inside is running for Congress.

I am therefore left with Trump.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 04:25 PM (cNtqS)

53 1. He can either fizzle or be beaten by other candidates noting his prior support for partial birth abortion

The GOP doesn't want to talk about abortion, because they are all pro-choice.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 23, 2015 04:25 PM (shLnc)

54 The professional political hack consultant class has been weighed on the scales...and found wanting.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at July 23, 2015 04:25 PM (659DL)

55 I have to admit that suing Univision is a nice touch.

I wonder of he's learned anything from his Laredo visit, though, since the BP bailed out taking him on a tour.

Posted by: stace: SMOD/Cascadia Subduction Zone 2016 at July 23, 2015 04:25 PM (CoX6k)

56 I'm not all that upset. In my view we couldn't have worse than we have now.

But then, I have a track record of stupid.

Guess we'll see...

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at July 23, 2015 04:26 PM (l2Gqi)

57 4chan predicts the reaction after a Trump win:

http://tinyurl.com/pqd23ee

Posted by: brak at July 23, 2015 04:26 PM (Tj+s6)

58 I can't stand Trump and yet every day the fcukwits of the GOPe make his candidacy seem more and more... not even palatable anymore, really... more like *delectable*. They're actually making me root for him, with their every tut-tut and fainting spell. It's like being able breathe after being shut in a stuffy room for the last ten years.

I want them to suffer. I want them to pay for having participated in destroying the greatest, freeest idea ever enacted by men.

Posted by: Bivalve Curious at July 23, 2015 04:26 PM (/JdQf)

59 Brand new PPP poll, Trump still leads, Walker second

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 23, 2015 04:26 PM (Ii765)

60 Their big idea was to convince Jeb!, Walker, and Rubio to announce they were boycotting any debate in which Trump is present,

IOW, have them run away from the guy who is eating their lunch.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 23, 2015 04:27 PM (oVJmc)

61 Ahem:

Trump has always, always stated that he abhorred abortion. In every interview. He has said abortion was just awful and he hated to think about.

That said about a decade ago he has also stated that he was prochoice, i.e., not his decision.

that is miles and miles away from "supporting" "partial birth abortion".

Please, continue.

Posted by: prescient11 at July 23, 2015 04:27 PM (q5APL)

62 I'm beginning to suspect that Trump's true genius lies in his abilityy to get opponents to drive their picket pins into barren prairie soil where they will far-too-late discover the enemy took the freeway.

Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at July 23, 2015 04:27 PM (wKcQA)

63 I read somewhere that trump is eyeballing Mike Flynn for Veep ...

Posted by: RandomPokerHands at July 23, 2015 04:27 PM (B3WeQ)

64 Well next time I'm with my good buddy Coop, I'm going to giver a shout out to Ace!

Posted by: Trumpnado at July 23, 2015 04:27 PM (BjKDP)

65 We're going to need some more popcorn, for this imminent Trump flameout or something.

Posted by: rebel flounder at July 23, 2015 04:27 PM (Vf5rR)

66 Do people just see Trump as a stand in for the SMOD or are people thinking that he can actually win the presidency, and if so, would be a better president than the other choices?
Posted by: joe

Option #1, with a smidge of 'couldn't really be much worse'.

He's a NE liberal, but that's little different from the PoS we have now. They mostly lie about it.

And how is the Bob corker outrage hour any different or better than one of trump's reality shows?

A; Trump gets people to volunteer to pay for his shows.
Corker demands that we pay for his.

Posted by: Book of Revulsion chap 666 at July 23, 2015 04:28 PM (Spluw)

67 Nah.

If Trump isn't the nominee, he'll drop out.

You think he'd run just to lose and spite Jebbie when he could be knocking back mojitos on a beach he owns? Please.

Posted by: Feh at July 23, 2015 04:28 PM (LWyqh)

68 This is not a Trump endorsement but for all of the GOPe's talk about the Big Tent, they seem to spend a lot of time trying to chase him out of the party.

Posted by: Dave C at July 23, 2015 04:28 PM (JLnbb)

69 brak:

that is fantastic.

Posted by: prescient11 at July 23, 2015 04:29 PM (q5APL)

70 Yep, got into a brief discussion on twitter with a guy who said he was willing to forego trying to win over Trump fans believing that by ostracizing them the GOP would pick up votes they would not have gotten otherwise. I disagreed claiming that the "sane rational" voters were already on board and he should try to win over the "Loons" if he wanted the GOP to win the general.

The first Bush didn't try to win over the Ross Perot fans either, that didn't work out well.

Frankly I don't give too big a shit, the GOP is only slightly less awful than the Democrats at this point.

Posted by: BuckIV at July 23, 2015 04:29 PM (mE/ao)

71 63
I read somewhere that trump is eyeballing Mike Flynn for Veep ...

Posted by: RandomPokerHands at July 23, 2015 04:27 PM (B3WeQ)

Now you're just ewok-baiting.

Posted by: rebel flounder at July 23, 2015 04:29 PM (Vf5rR)

72 IOW, have them run away from the guy who is eating their lunch

For the love of God I hope they do it. It will sunder the GOP.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 23, 2015 04:29 PM (shLnc)

73 Their big idea was to convince Jeb!, Walker, and Rubio to announce they were boycotting any debate in which Trump is present

And if they do that they look like spoiled 2 yr olds throwing a temper tantrum.

Posted by: wrg500 at July 23, 2015 04:30 PM (sWgE+)

74 Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 04:23 PM (cNtqS)

I posted something similar in a previous thread.

It's Big Business that's behind all of this.

All of it.

Illegal immigration, open borders, Cuba, Iran...all of it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 23, 2015 04:30 PM (oFCZn)

75 Look, Trump is not stupid. If he's in it to win it, he will. He won't go third party unless it's a lock that he wins.

Right now he doesn't need to nor to I think he even wants to. He's owning the show.

Every bad actor is against him. He has the right enemies. Politically, he's not an ideologue. His views are just pro-American. Like it used to be, and still is among the silent majority.

Just today the Union big wigs in DC. took their shot at him. Anderson Cooper, yesterday.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at July 23, 2015 04:30 PM (Ixbid)

76 4chan predicts the reaction after a Trump win:

http://tinyurl.com/pqd23ee

Posted by: brak at July 23, 2015 04:26 PM (Tj+s6)

4chan, come for the snark, amaze at the anti-semitism.

Posted by: rd at July 23, 2015 04:30 PM (X7Dmb)

77 Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 23, 2015 04:26 PM (Ii765)

You mean posted by "TinfoilProductofConception"

Posted by: Dr. Jen Gunter, Vegematic Obstatrician/Gynocologist at July 23, 2015 04:30 PM (HKyCl)

78 57
4chan predicts the reaction after a Trump win:

http://tinyurl.com/pqd23ee

brak , that is hilarious!

ace, you should link to 4chan on this one (brak's link).

Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 04:31 PM (cNtqS)

79 Posted by: joe at July 23, 2015 04:21 PM (KUaJL)

Trump is a cluebat. He's saying the things we want the others to say and that need to be said. Let them watch their support bleed away until they get that clue.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer - Nutty Professor at July 23, 2015 04:31 PM (Edob3)

80
"I have not slimed any supporters."

Sorry, not directed at you. Directed at the GOP consultant class that has been running to Politco and other rags to slime supporters. John Nolte has been hammering them for it.

Posted by: Benji Carver at July 23, 2015 04:31 PM (OD2ni)

81 Yep, got into a brief discussion on twitter with a guy who said he was
willing to forego trying to win over Trump fans believing that by
ostracizing them the GOP would pick up votes they would not have gotten
otherwise.

"You're unhappy with the Party? Then Fuck You!"

It's what the GOP always does, and they keep shooting themselves in the foot.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 23, 2015 04:31 PM (oVJmc)

82 73
Their big idea was to convince Jeb!, Walker, and Rubio to announce they were boycotting any debate in which Trump is present

And if they do that they look like spoiled 2 yr olds throwing a temper tantrum.

Posted by: wrg500 at July 23, 2015 04:30 PM (sWgE+)

Waaaaaaaaa! *sucks thumb and sniffles*

Posted by: GOP at July 23, 2015 04:31 PM (BjKDP)

83 Did Trump just out of the blue mention going 3rd party or did someone ask him about it?

Because from what I've seen if someone asks Trump a question, any question, he'll usually answer it instead of dodging.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 23, 2015 04:32 PM (oFCZn)

84 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 23, 2015 04:32 PM (kff5f)

85 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 23, 2015 04:33 PM (kff5f)

86 4chan, come for the snark, amaze at the anti-semitism.

Posted by: rd

Disregard. dammit , I missed that.

The rest was awesome.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 04:33 PM (cNtqS)

87 See this is my new reality show..."GOP...You're FIRED!"

Posted by: Trumpnado at July 23, 2015 04:33 PM (BjKDP)

88 I will laugh and laugh as I cast my vote for Trump in both the primary and the general.

Welcome to Team Burn it Down, ace!

The guys get shirts.
#twoweeks.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 23, 2015 04:33 PM (kff5f)

89 brak, that's funny, and that's what I believe most Americans are looking for

even if it isn't Trump who says it

Posted by: Feh at July 23, 2015 04:34 PM (LWyqh)

90 And if they do that they look like spoiled 2 yr olds throwing a temper tantrum.

So what you're saying is, there's no actual downside.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 23, 2015 04:34 PM (kff5f)

91 >>It's Big Business that's behind all of this.

It is but it's not just the US. Take a look at what's been happening in Iran since the UN SC agreed to the deal.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2015 04:34 PM (OGm46)

92 I wonder of he's learned anything from his Laredo visit, though, since the BP bailed out taking him on a tour.
Posted by: stace: SMOD/Cascadia Subduction Zone 2016 at July 23, 2015 04:25 PM (CoX6k)

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
6 minutes ago

@tmautner1211 If all the Hispanics hate the @realDonaldTrump, why was he surrounded by so many Hispanics at the border?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/with_replies

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 23, 2015 04:35 PM (qCMvj)

93 Because from what I've seen if someone asks Trump a question, any question, he'll usually answer it instead of dodging.

"Mr. Trump! Mr. Trump! Mr. Trump! Boxers, or briefs?"

"Thong, bitchez".

Posted by: rickb223 at July 23, 2015 04:35 PM (X88sA)

94 Because from what I've seen if someone asks Trump a question, any question, he'll usually answer it instead of dodging.

What a novel concept, answer a question instead of dodging.

Posted by: wrg500 at July 23, 2015 04:35 PM (sWgE+)

95 >>> Trump is a big crude spotlight that just clicked on to the GOP roaches in the pantry.

Yes. And his past interactions with pols on the Dem side might result in a lot of scurrying that side of the aisle when the general starts up.

Posted by: Bigby's ASL at July 23, 2015 04:35 PM (3ZtZW)

96 Someone mentioned this earlier today. if these morons try to shut out a billionaire with talent and hunger for getting on TV, he'll wrangle a show with the PoS muted, and he'll then answer ALL of the questions.

And they will be his background props (bitches). it's what he does. He would probably be a terrible president, but this is shit that he knows and loves. They're trying to stay alive, funded and unflensed.

trump could actually bankroll a run by himself.

Posted by: Book of Revulsion chap 666 at July 23, 2015 04:35 PM (Spluw)

97 You know, another point is that as a businessman he's like Michael Jordan. "Republicans buy my shoes too."

The man runs hotels, golf courses, sells clothing, etc.
You think he's going to be wildly one way or the other, publically? He needs customers. He's used to serving customers of ALL political persuasions.

He's ALL about the customer. The American people are his customers. Politicians are NOT all about their customers.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at July 23, 2015 04:36 PM (Ixbid)

98 Who would you rather see debate any-ckufing-thing? Jeb!, Walker, and Rubio or Trump?

Is the GOPe really going to make it this easy for The Donald?

It'll take four or more tries for Jeb! to get the right wording out. Walker won't say anything for the first 80% of his alloted time because he's too cautious to actually lead with his instincts. Rubio will tell us about Cuba and the American dream. Again.

Donald? He'll be throwing darts at anything that moves and hitting 92% of his targets.

Please, please, please, Jeb!, Walker, and Rubio, fulfill your "threat".

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 23, 2015 04:36 PM (1CroS)

99 What's the over/under on them trying to have Trump killed at some point?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 23, 2015 04:36 PM (shLnc)

100 Anthony Weiner has a new job...

As a PR consultant.

*giggle*

http://tinyurl.com/nhp5ox3

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 23, 2015 04:36 PM (kmtse)

101 I'm recalling something about "Trumpets Sounding from the east..."

Trump is from east of NYC, right? all agree he a big blow hard....

Posted by: Paladin at July 23, 2015 04:36 PM (ycm4Q)

102 73 Their big idea was to convince Jeb!, Walker, and Rubio to announce they were boycotting any debate in which Trump is present

And if they do that they look like spoiled 2 yr olds throwing a temper tantrum.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 23, 2015 04:30 PM (sWgE+)

And Trump will be the second Presidential candidate in history to used the phrase "Big Pussies" in a Presidential debate. The first was Bill Clinton, but that debate was censored at the time.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 23, 2015 04:36 PM (HKyCl)

103 I mean if we're just making up past "positions" of Trump, can we create the best straw man ever that Trump was "totes for harvesting the organs out of crying babies??"

As I've said many times, once you actually unpack his so called "liberal" past views, it's a joke. Only an unthinking person or a liar would look at this like it's a major problem.

Posted by: prescient11 at July 23, 2015 04:37 PM (q5APL)

104 Either you fools and eunuchs know how to play a man's game, or you don't.

And if you don't -- then to hell with you.
*************

Amen, brother. Amen.

And you know what? I don't think Trump can win, but if he does ... how is he any worse than Jeb fucking Bush and the rest of the kleptocratic ruling class?

They've ruined our culture. They've rendered the Constitution meaningless. They've destroyed the rule of law. They've turned our children into debt slaves with a reckless borrowing and spending.

Is Trump a clown show?

You bet. The whole goddamn thing has been a 3 ring circus for at least 30 years.

Why do I care who gets to be the head clown?

Posted by: Warden at July 23, 2015 04:37 PM (wHAYQ)

105 I want to see a debate of Trump versus clips of himself throughout the years.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 23, 2015 04:37 PM (shLnc)

106 Strange days indeed.

Posted by: eleven at July 23, 2015 04:37 PM (MDgS8)

107

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis

Sorry, I have been *ahem* working all day. o>0

I will scroll back for your comment . Which post was it?

Hannity was saying that he thinks the 3rd party thing is a negotiation tactic with the GOP and is convinced that Trump is not going to run 3rd party,

Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 04:37 PM (cNtqS)

108 chan predicts the reaction after a Trump win:

http://tinyurl.com/pqd23ee

brak , that is hilarious!

you know you want it

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 23, 2015 04:37 PM (qCMvj)

109 >>Because from what I've seen if someone asks Trump a question, any question, he'll usually answer it instead of dodging.

Sort of. He was asked in that presser a few minutes ago what he would do with all the illegals in the US after he built the wall and he answered "Thank you, gotta go."

I'd kinda like to hear him answer that one.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2015 04:37 PM (OGm46)

110 Story on new PPP poll over at the right scoop

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 23, 2015 04:37 PM (Ii765)

111 A man without fear is the most dangerous man of all.

If Trump gets too far he will be stopped make no mistake about that.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 23, 2015 04:37 PM (PaAcR)

112 Dubya wouldn't respond to the MSM becoz "dignity of the Office"

GOPe won't share stage with Trump becoz "dignity of the Debates"?? WTF

Posted by: Bigby's ASL at July 23, 2015 04:38 PM (3ZtZW)

113 7 ROFL....

Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 23, 2015 04:38 PM (eOpVe)

114 Gentlefolk:

We will be replacing Michelle Obama with Marlena Trump.

Drops mic.

"They're rapists."

Trump
2016

Posted by: prescient11 at July 23, 2015 04:38 PM (q5APL)

115 The GOP consultant class is comprised of beefy frat boy dolts, almost uniformly. They would far rather beat Trump than beat the Dem in the general.

Posted by: Brewdog at July 23, 2015 04:38 PM (+Wjvy)

116 Is Trump a clown show?

You bet. The whole goddamn thing has been a 3 ring circus for at least 30 years.

Why do I care who gets to be the head clown?

Pretty much the whole thing in a nutshell.

Posted by: eleven at July 23, 2015 04:38 PM (MDgS8)

117 "You're unhappy with the Party? Then Fuck You!"

"It's what the GOP always does, and they keep shooting themselves in the foot."

Right. Can you imagine a hotel owner treating his customers like that? He'd have an empty hotel.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at July 23, 2015 04:38 PM (Ixbid)

118 Not sure why people have their panties in such a twist over Trump. As stated previously, he IS driving the conversations right now. He is throwing red meat out there and people are loving what they hear. He can afford to let the GOPe/Rinse Penis whine and complain and make threats all they want. He has more money.

Now, with that said. Why isn't the GOPe looking at Trump and using him as a litmus test? What are the issues Trump is supporting, and what is the people's response? Use that to tailor the message.

But of course, that presumes that Rinse Penis/GOPe:
1) want to win.
2) Can turn the tide and actually make a stand, and stand by what they said they'll support.

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at July 23, 2015 04:39 PM (DlmoZ)

119 And these people are rich? Proves that you don't have to be intelligent to get rich.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 23, 2015 04:39 PM (8marX)

120 Trump will not get the nomination and will run as an independent. He
will peel away about 25% of the Repub vote. It'll be a low-turnout
election.

You forgot to factor in that he will also pull LIV votes also.

Posted by: Paladin at July 23, 2015 04:39 PM (ycm4Q)

121 If none of them can beat Trump for the nomination, they'd never have been able to beat Hilary. And although I rolled my eyes at first, Trump's refusal to be bulldozed by the media and throwing every twisted question right back at them has been more refreshing than I can say. And on the issues he's discussing I agree with him. He's sticking to pure domestic issues right now, which is smart for many reasons. And the longer he lasts, and stays in the game, the more I respect him.
And the McCain non-story? Hewas a hero for what he did in Vietnam, and he rode it ever since on a long downhill slide away from principles in order to get some of that sweet sweet spotlight. Check Steyn's newest column on it.

Posted by: Biblio at July 23, 2015 04:39 PM (7o8VY)

122 and I will laugh and laugh as I cast my vote for Trump in both the primary and the general.

Come what may -- come what may.-ace
------------------

I'm voting for J.J. Sefton, the Joo with a Clue

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantarian at July 23, 2015 04:39 PM (Z58Xa)

123
In my own defense, just like JFK I have a crippling addition to prescription pain medication.

So that's kinda presidential.

Posted by: Gov Rick "Feed Your Heaaaaaaad" Perry

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 23, 2015 04:39 PM (kdS6q)

124 Trump is a big crude spotlight that just clicked on to the GOP roaches in the pantry. Yes. And his past interactions with pols on the Dem side might result in a lot of scurrying that side of the aisle when the general starts up.
Posted by: Bigby's ASL

Imagine that trump and Fiorina meet. Then imagine trump wondering when Hillarity will get her walker out and show up on stage to debate him.
While waiting, he and Fiorina talk about IT and e-mail policy and their experiences with that, while running real operations. Stuff that any middle class voter would recognize as policies that govern their lives.

Posted by: Book of Revulsion chap 666 at July 23, 2015 04:40 PM (Spluw)

125 It'll take four or more tries for Jeb! to get the right wording out. Walker won't say anything for the first 80% of his alloted time because he's too cautious to actually lead with his instincts. Rubio will tell us about Cuba and the American dream. Again.

Donald? He'll be throwing darts at anything that moves and hitting 92% of his targets.

lol

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 23, 2015 04:40 PM (qCMvj)

126 Hey, hey, hey!

Watch it with the eunuchs!

We prefer "formerly testiculated".

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at July 23, 2015 04:40 PM (SGtBn)

127 Either you fools and eunuchs know how to play a man's game, or you don't.

Are these (A) the "men" who get free tampons from the gub'mint, or (B) the "men" who wish they were biologically qualified for that program?

Posted by: Captain Oblivious at July 23, 2015 04:40 PM (hiT/m)

128 "Anthony Weiner has a new job...

As a PR consultant. "

Guy might want to think about Hollywood. He had a big role in "Sharknado" last night and knocked it out of the park. Emotion, grit, he had it all.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 23, 2015 04:40 PM (LA7Cm)

129 trump was also huuuuuuge against Iraq, something Granny can't say.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at July 23, 2015 04:40 PM (uhE1E)

130 123
In my own defense, just like JFK I have a crippling addition to prescription pain medication.

So that's kinda presidential.

Posted by: Gov Rick "Feed Your Heaaaaaaad" Perry
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 23, 2015 04:39 PM (kdS6q)

Maybe he would make the shit legal so we can leave the smack alone.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantarian at July 23, 2015 04:41 PM (Z58Xa)

131 I wonder of he's learned anything from his Laredo visit, though, since the BP bailed out taking him on a tour.

Posted by: stace

Hey stace,

Just do you know the USBP agents did not bail. The USBP Council which is ( unfortunately in my opinion) a member of AFL-CIO ( by necessity, it's a complicated relationship) was instructed by AFL-CIO to NOT allow members to take Trump on the tour.

Odd that they would allow Sean Hannity and other talk radio and conservative personalities tours but not Trump.

Anyway it reflects primarily on AFL-CIO , not USBP.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 04:41 PM (cNtqS)

132 We live in a country where politicians do nothing, the money is fake, the current president hates his country and judges make all the decisions.

Trump is perfect for it.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 23, 2015 04:41 PM (shLnc)

133 Ah, so he did read that article, too! Yes, Ace is about ready to pitch in for The Donald anyway! I suspect it is a protest vote since the Country Club GOP has once again proven to be late to the party on anything that appeals to the GOP base.

Vote for Trump as a primary candidate! Absolutely! Vote for him as POTUS? Why not? What do we have left to lose? Obummer has done his best to wreck the Republic and the GOP both in and out of office has largely failed to stop him. Recently it looks like they've stopped trying. What DO we have left to lose by trying a candidate with no agenda but his own?

Posted by: exdem13 at July 23, 2015 04:41 PM (ry4ab)

134 What is really scaring the hell out of the other candidates is as Trump gains traction he's drying up the money pond. These big donors are not going to give money to someone that they know they can't get their investment back from and Trump doesn't need the money. So the donor class will start just sitting on their money instead of throwing money at someone that's sinking in the polls.

Posted by: wrg500 at July 23, 2015 04:41 PM (sWgE+)

135 As you all may or may not know-

Perry was my top guy, but he's been slipping lately and today-

he dropped out of the running for me.

I heard excerpts of what I assume is his latest anti-Trump speech and it was just just just painfully stupid.

Perry stated that there's a cancer in the Republican party that must be diagnosed, isolated, cut out, and disposed of and that cancer is-

TRUMPISM!!!!11111!!!!!!1!!!11!

*cue sinister music - Dum DUM DUM Dumbbbbbb!*

And went on to get his panties in a wad about the heartlessness, and eeeeeevvvvviiiiillllll of

TRUMPISM!!!

*cue sinister music - Dum DUM DUM Dumbbbbbb!*

Goddamn it, you dumb fucking jackass.

You.....yes, You as the guy on the border in the state with the best economy could easily have stolen Trump's thunder if you just took up his border issue and spun it with your experience.

But-

Noop.

Perry has the political instincts of one of the dingleberries I picked off of my dog last night.

Please do yourself a favor and find that audio or video it's good for a (sad) laugh-

Perry pronounces TRUMPISM!!!!11!!!!!!

*cue sinister music - Dum DUM DUM Dumbbbbbb!*

The way Dana Carvey's SNL Church Lady pronounced "Satan!!!!".

Posted by: naturalfake at July 23, 2015 04:41 PM (KUa85)

136 Like I said earlier:

You had your chance GOP apologists. Every last one of your candidates are shitting the bed here. Even the non-preferred Repubs are doing it.

I'm now going to work to actively undermine you by voting for Trump. I don't care that I think he's a liberal Democrat. I don't care if it gets the Democrat elected.

You were giving us Democrat results anyway, so I want to be told lies by someone who can entertain me and your guys just can't cut it anymore.

You needed my vote. I don't need yours.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 23, 2015 04:42 PM (xSCb6)

137 If Trump runs as an independent he pulls statistcally all the non-professoriate white vote that doesnt work directly for a union.

Whether most of them would have voted GOP anyway is another question.

Posted by: JEM at July 23, 2015 04:42 PM (o+SC1)

138 I see Perry's hand in the Border Patrol rescinding the offer to usher Trump around the border. Who stands to lose the most, by the problems being exposed? Perry has really been attacking Trump instead of talking about issues.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 23, 2015 04:42 PM (YS/wV)

139 Who cares what Trump's position on partial birth abortion, or any issue, was in the past? He is saying things now that I want to hear. And who cares what his position on any issue will be in 6 months? In 6 months is not now. I could be dead in 6 months. Sheesh.

Posted by: Born Yesterday at July 23, 2015 04:42 PM (7u7u7)

140 Guy might want to think about Hollywood. He had a big role in "Sharknado" last night and knocked it out of the park. Emotion, grit, he had it all.

Are you sure that wasn't Brian Dennehy?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 23, 2015 04:42 PM (kff5f)

141 Bret Baier: "I'd be lying to you if I didn't say that I have woken up in cold sweats wondering how I'm going to deal with a Donald Trump who's not listening,"

lol

The Filibuster Candidate!

Maybe he does have some political bona fides.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 23, 2015 04:42 PM (qCMvj)

142 34 Trump is SMOD personified, as a previous commenter noted.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 23, 2015 04:22 PM (kmtse)

That works out okay for me, because I'm to the point of voting for SMOD anyway.

Posted by: Laura at July 23, 2015 04:42 PM (vAAG+)

143 92
I wonder of he's learned anything from his Laredo visit, though, since the BP bailed out taking him on a tour.

Posted by: stace: SMOD/Cascadia Subduction Zone 2016 at July 23, 2015 04:25 PM (CoX6k)

This morning, I bet my wife our biannual intimacy that the BP will have been threatened with their jobs/pension from participating or speaking freely.

Interesting times.

Posted by: rebel flounder at July 23, 2015 04:43 PM (Vf5rR)

144 Odd that they would allow Sean Hannity and other talk radio and conservative personalities tours but not Trump. Anyway it reflects primarily on AFL-CIO , not USBP. Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 04:41 PM

I still think a call to the union ~~thugs~~ officials from President Historic First� might have been involved....

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 23, 2015 04:43 PM (rCmeG)

145 Trump is a plant and his job is to secure another Clinton presidency. Always remember that damaging Republican primaries and third party spoilers, is how the Clintons win national elections. Some people seem to be fine with that.

Posted by: Begonia Cloggenstein at July 23, 2015 04:43 PM (LNNb/)

146 You wanted SMOD? Trump is SMOD.

Thanks GOP for fucking up and making my wish come true.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 23, 2015 04:43 PM (xSCb6)

147 The reason the other candidates aren't responding to Trump? It's because they all are going to be dependent on the RNC and CoC for their campaign funding. As long as Rinse Penis and Rove are running the show, they'll shut up, even when they're being destroyed.

Posted by: Soona at July 23, 2015 04:43 PM (P25Hh)

148 Can you imagine how quickly the GOPe would disappear if an honest man promised to govern as a conservative? The only thing keeping Trump from the Whitehouse will be his used car salesman/flip flop history.

As soon as someone promises conservative change, then actually delivers change, all of the lies of the GOPe and the politicians who lied, will blow away with the wind.

Posted by: Old Hob at July 23, 2015 04:43 PM (DkXQB)

149 You needed my vote. I don't need yours.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 23, 2015 04:42 PM (xSCb6)

exactly.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantarian at July 23, 2015 04:44 PM (Z58Xa)

150 Scott Walker is just another Democrat. I mean, look at his record in Wisconsin. Total liberal.

Posted by: Born Yesterday at July 23, 2015 04:44 PM (7u7u7)

151 "was instructed by AFL-CIO to NOT allow members "

So the BP takes its orders from unions now...?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 23, 2015 04:44 PM (LA7Cm)

152 136
Like I said earlier:

You had your chance GOP apologists.
Every last one of your candidates are shitting the bed here. Even the
non-preferred Repubs are doing it.

I'm now going to work to
actively undermine you by voting for Trump. I don't care that I think
he's a liberal Democrat. I don't care if it gets the Democrat elected.

You
were giving us Democrat results anyway, so I want to be told lies by
someone who can entertain me and your guys just can't cut it anymore.

You needed my vote. I don't need yours.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 23, 2015 04:42 PM (xSCb6)
I'll second this. Nice post BTW

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at July 23, 2015 04:44 PM (DlmoZ)

153 >>> I'm voting for J.J. Sefton, the Joo with a Clue

Nope. The pecking order is WASP, Catholic, Black/gay, Woman, Clown, then Jew.

Posted by: Bigby's ASL at July 23, 2015 04:44 PM (3ZtZW)

154 I will vote for ANY Republican over Hillary.
Not because I have, or have ever had, any affection for the GOP. It's just that I'd rather have a media that is hostile to the executive than one that is obsequious.

So, yeah, I'd vote for Trump over the witch.
Hell, I'd even vote for Jeb (gag) over her.

Oh, who am I kidding?
I'd vote for Sanders --- either Bernie or the dead Colonel --- over Madame Corruption.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 23, 2015 04:44 PM (cN9Sk)

155 Also : Herman Cain said today that he likes Trump because he "can't be bought".

He went on to talk about how most of the GOP crowd wants to "tweak" things and not repeal or replace things like Obamacare and the tax code.

FWIW Cain likes Ben Carson and Trump.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 04:44 PM (cNtqS)

156 I love this version of ace!!!

Posted by: dude guy at July 23, 2015 04:45 PM (q177U)

157 Trump's past position statements are not going to sink him. Have you learned nothing? His audacity is his brand. At least 20% of the party wants someone to play offense for once.

Goddamn I just want to give the Braveheart speech to the other ones, to Walker and Perry -- lead! Stop playing into the media's narrative and lead!

Posted by: Brewdog at July 23, 2015 04:45 PM (+Wjvy)

158 Trump? He no good. Won't let me fvck his wife.

Posted by: Paolo at July 23, 2015 04:45 PM (Ixbid)

159 Posted by: Begonia at July 23, 2015 04:43 PM (LNNb/)

The sabbatical did you no good. You're more delusional than ever.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 23, 2015 04:45 PM (8ZskC)

160 draw and strike bitchez!

Posted by: dude guy at July 23, 2015 04:45 PM (q177U)

161 4

Reposted for sheer awesome.

Wonder if Trump still plans to implement this?
Because I am digging it.
----------------
That idea alone would get him much support.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 23, 2015 04:45 PM (ry4ab)

162 Oh please don't throw me in the briar patch!

Posted by: Trumpnado! at July 23, 2015 04:45 PM (uJK1E)

163 ***"Always remember that damaging Republican primaries
and third party spoilers, is how the Clintons win national elections.
Some people seem to be fine with that.

Posted by: Begonia at July 23, 2015 04:43 PM (LNNb/)"***

Always remember that electing Republicans still brings you Clinton results. You seem to be ok with that.
Did you have a point that actually makes sense when you devote more than two brain cells to the matter, or are you just a magical thinker?
You clowns bore me. I want a real clown. TRUMP '16!

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 23, 2015 04:45 PM (xSCb6)

164 Trump is a plant and his job is to secure another Clinton presidency. Always remember that damaging Republican primaries and third party spoilers, is how the Clintons win national elections. Some people seem to be fine with that.

Concern status: noted.

Tell me, how, precisely, is Jeb! any different from Hillary! with the possible (but only possible) exception of genitalia?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 23, 2015 04:46 PM (kff5f)

165 I earlier compared Trump to Christie, but I think that there is something else that also increases Trump's attractiveness. He has no perceptible connection to machine politics. He is not unique in the field - Fiorina, Carson - but they haven't demonstrated his combativeness. Fiorina has, but she had her legs swept early because of her perceived business failure with HP (I think she gets a bad rap, but...)

Anyway, not being a cog in the machine is a pretty attractive characteristic, I think.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at July 23, 2015 04:46 PM (BZAd3)

166 Trump, as has been noted, is an astute businessman. He's seen an opportunity, an unexploited market, wherein 99% of Republican politicians will betray what the majority of their base wants, because they are being bought out, and they hope that their base is so stupid they won't notice.

Trump is exploiting this, and more power to him.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at July 23, 2015 04:46 PM (E5UB0)

167 @ 93 - ""Mr. Trump! Mr. Trump! Mr. Trump! Boxers, or briefs?"

Commando - like what I'll be sending in to Iran to take out their nuclear program!

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at July 23, 2015 04:46 PM (Mtb58)

168 I would vote for Pat Paulson before I would vote for Hillary. Unlike others, Hillary has locked up my vote for whoever is the GOP nominee.

Posted by: Cruzinator at July 23, 2015 04:46 PM (N4pek)

169 "Are you sure that wasn't Brian Dennehy?"

So, Brian Dennehy ate Anthony Weiner?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 23, 2015 04:46 PM (LA7Cm)

170 For better or worse we're playing the big tent party this cycle. Party of conflicting ideas and visions.

Not unlike the dems in 08 I might add.

Eliminating a person because he's a moron isn't going to fly if we want to embrace that (and I think we should. If Hillary! leverages her machine to the nomination, which is a strong possibility, I'd rather be running as the party full of so many ideas that it had to have 2 debates against an aging machine.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at July 23, 2015 04:46 PM (hhQEJ)

171 Looking at you Rick Perry.
[*][*]
Rick Perry has square moobs?

Posted by: andycanuck at July 23, 2015 04:47 PM (kivUY)

172 Always be closing.

Posted by: Glengarry Glen Trump at July 23, 2015 04:47 PM (Ixbid)

173 Just today the Union big wigs in DC. took their shot at him. Anderson Cooper, yesterday.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at July 23, 2015 04:30 PM (Ixbid)
_______________________

Anderson Cooper makes me want to hurl. Are we supposed to be grateful that he took time out from trolling gay bars from the back of his mommy's limo to lecture us dumb plebes, who didn't have the sense to be born filthy rich like he was, that we're just raaaaaacist h8ters if we don't support Big Business' open-borders agenda, no matter how many American lives it costs, and no matter how many billions of our tax dollars it costs?

He can go f*ck himself.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 23, 2015 04:47 PM (kGrdk)

174 Trump is a plant and his job is to secure another
Clinton presidency. Always remember that damaging Republican primaries
and third party spoilers, is how the Clintons win national elections.
Some people seem to be fine with that.

Posted by: Begonia at July 23, 2015 04:43 PM (LNNb/)

How could he be a plant? He's doing EVERYTHING out in the open, with 24/7 coverage of every utterance he makes.

Nobody is damaging the Republican Party's chances of winning the next Presidential election, except the Republican Party.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 23, 2015 04:47 PM (TOk1P)

175 We've seen in recent elections what happens if the GOPe doesn't get the candidates it wants and the proles try to force someone else on them.

The GOp tantrum over *the guy leading their polls* shows us its their party, their playground, not ours.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 23, 2015 04:47 PM (oVJmc)

176 22
Trump is an Ass.

Until I see a "real" candidate talking about a Border Fence and stopping Illegal Immigration, I'll ride that jack-ass.

Guns

The Border

The Economy

Winning issues
----------------
That is pretty much it. Trump might not be afraid to butchering some sacred budget cows of the Left either.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 23, 2015 04:48 PM (ry4ab)

177 *So the BP takes its orders from unions now...? *

Like many unionized law enforcement agencies, the BP union local gets guidance from AFL-CIO. Very binding on union officers who represent <1% of the USBP agents.

Not so much on members who are pretty independent thinking people.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 04:48 PM (cNtqS)

178 169 "Are you sure that wasn't Brian Dennehy?"

So, Brian Dennehy ate Anthony Weiner?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 23, 2015 04:46 PM (LA7Cm)

And that is just wrong.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantarian at July 23, 2015 04:48 PM (Z58Xa)

179 Burn the witch:

I third this.

Posted by: prescient11 at July 23, 2015 04:48 PM (q5APL)

180 EXACTLY my thoughts, Ace.

If Trump beats these guys, they deserve every nanosecond of horror as they circle the drain.

Posted by: Brisco_County at July 23, 2015 04:48 PM (QSsP4)

181 Trump is a plant and his job is to secure another

Clinton presidency. Always remember that damaging Republican primaries

and third party spoilers, is how the Clintons win national elections.

Some people seem to be fine with that.

A party that's worth a shit couldn't get their thunder stolen by a clown in a bad wig.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 23, 2015 04:48 PM (oVJmc)

182 osted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 23, 2015 04:46 PM (kff5f)

Actually, Allen-As it should be obvious by now I'm not a "concern troll" and yet I have the same, well.....concern if that trump will enter as 3rd party candidate because he's been promised something by Team Clinton.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 23, 2015 04:49 PM (OSs/l)

183 Perry has the political instincts of one of the dingleberries I picked off of my dog last night.

And let me assure you, he's paying Top Dollar for it.

Posted by: Steve Schmidt, Fresh Off The Campaign Victory of John McCain at July 23, 2015 04:49 PM (8ZskC)

184 I don't care if the Democrats win. I want the GOP destroyed so that a true second, opposition party can emerge. Trump is the wrecking ball that can help that happen. He either wins, or he ruins it for the GOP. Either one is fine by me.

Posted by: despair at July 23, 2015 04:49 PM (xsEwF)

185 So today it's Let it burn? Are you currently dating a man named Paulo?

Posted by: DFCtomm at July 23, 2015 04:49 PM (fUDry)

186 "Nope. The pecking order is WASP, Catholic, Black/gay, Woman, Clown, then Jew. "

Don't forget Mormon. It's Mormon, then Jew.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 23, 2015 04:49 PM (LA7Cm)

187 Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at July 23, 2015 04:46 PM (E5UB0)

I think he stumbled into this.

SJWs attacked him for an innocuous comment about illegal immigrants being criminals. His response was unprecedented - he fought back. Jeb has fired people for such comments.

It's like the Maccabees revolt. Nobody's done this before and it caught fire.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 23, 2015 04:49 PM (shLnc)

188 The sabbatical did you no good. You're more delusional than ever.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 23, 2015 04:45 PM (8ZskC)
____

Hardly delusional. This is pretty obvious. With Trump, the Clintons get a Buchanan (wrecking our party in the primaries) and a Perot (third party spoiler) in one. Whats not to like?

Posted by: Begonia Cloggenstein at July 23, 2015 04:49 PM (LNNb/)

189 Concern status: noted.

Tell me, how, precisely, is Jeb! any different from Hillary! with the possible (but only possible) exception of genitalia?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 23, 2015 04:46 PM (kff5f)

Jeb speaks mexican, mui excellente'.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 23, 2015 04:49 PM (TOk1P)

190 Jindall was on Cavuto today. He was talkjg about listening to the anger of the people re immigration deficit etc. if he can harness what Trump tapped into without having the history and bad hair, Jindall is going to be worth a second look. Its a smart play.

Posted by: Matt in Tampa at July 23, 2015 04:49 PM (aDpzg)

191 Trump/Fiorino could have interesting possibilities.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 23, 2015 04:49 PM (X88sA)

192 If Trump wanted to run 3rd party there's plenty to choose from, including just running as an Independent, which he could do were he inclined. Which is to say, if he is going to, how is it in any way preventable by you?

Posted by: Bigby's ASL at July 23, 2015 04:49 PM (3ZtZW)

193 Like any group of people, it is the things that they are sure they know that actually aren't so that get them into trouble.

(it is, um, something we all have to watch.)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Sound Less Rage-Crazy, Get Quality Euphemisms at the Outrage Outlet! at July 23, 2015 04:50 PM (hLRSq)

194 Trump is a plant and his job is to secure another Clinton presidency. Always remember that damaging Republican primaries and third party spoilers, is how the Clintons win national elections. Some people seem to be fine with that.
Posted by: Begonia

It'd be nice if you payed attention. The PoS is appallingly bad. They make him seem sane.
Someone upthread wanted to know what trumps earlier stances had to do with the here and now. In a sane world, it would/should mean a great deal. But we can't trust what Mitch the Bitch said last Fall.

So we're in jump ball territory now.

Posted by: Book of Revulsion chap 666 at July 23, 2015 04:50 PM (Spluw)

195 I don't see Trump running third party. His thinking and this is just my opinion is, if I can't beat these smucks in the republican party I don't deserve to be president.

Posted by: wrg500 at July 23, 2015 04:50 PM (sWgE+)

196 P.S. I'm definitely NOT a supporter of Jeb Bush either

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 23, 2015 04:50 PM (OSs/l)

197 Looking at you Rick Perry.
[*][*]
Rick Perry has square moobs?

Glasses.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 23, 2015 04:50 PM (X88sA)

198 Their big idea was to convince Jeb!, Walker, and Rubio to announce they were boycotting any debate in which Trump is present,

In which case welcome President Trump, because I think he's media-savvy enough to Clint Eastwood them, i.e., stage a mock debate by himself and have three empty chairs. Trump's popularity would skyrocket.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 23, 2015 04:51 PM (oKE6c)

199 171
Looking at you Rick Perry.

[*][*]

Rick Perry has square moobs?

Nah. The 'rons and ettes were ripping on Perry's "trendyhipsterglasses".

example:

[#][#] Rick Perry after debate with Trump

Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 04:52 PM (cNtqS)

200 175 We've seen in recent elections what happens if the GOPe doesn't get the candidates it wants and the proles try to force someone else on them.

The GOp tantrum over *the guy leading their polls* shows us its their party, their playground, not ours.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 23, 2015 04:47 PM (oVJmc)

If Trump actually won, it would be guaranteed that all the 'Trump can't beat Hillary, so select Jeb' types would...vote for Hillary.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 23, 2015 04:52 PM (shLnc)

201 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 23, 2015 04:46 PM (kff5f)

There may not be enough difference between Jeb! and Hillary! to matter to the gods of the copybook headings, but they are different.

Yes both would destroy this country.
Yes neither is someone I feel comfortable supporting.
But this whole "not a dimes worth of difference" is disingenuous.
Jeb's your standard corporatist politician.
Hillary is a crazed power hungry monster.

Stipulated that both are bad. Let's not pretend they're exactly the same.

You can be "shitty" but shitty for different reasons. (And if you put a gun to my kid's head and said choose one or the kid gets it, I'd choose the corporatist in a second. If you put that same gun to my head, I'd probably choose the trigger. Well assuming I didn't have the kid to raise.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at July 23, 2015 04:52 PM (hhQEJ)

202 Trump would represent the closest thing to a voter revolution as any organized write-in campaign.

There aren't many in the field I would vote for, and there are a couple I would vote against (meaning I would vote for Hillary) if they are nominated, but I would vote for Trump.

With Trump, we have no idea whether he would screw us or not, but with an establishment candidate chosen for us, we already know 100% that we will be taking it again in the pooper.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at July 23, 2015 04:52 PM (BZAd3)

203 Tell me, how, precisely, is Jeb! any different from Hillary! with the possible (but only possible) exception of genitalia?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 23, 2015 04:46 PM (kff5f)
_____

He is not a criminal and not responsible for the death of any American ambassadors, as far as I am aware.

Posted by: Begonia Cloggenstein at July 23, 2015 04:52 PM (LNNb/)

204 >>> Jeb speaks mexican, mui excellente'.

Hillary speaks digital tones.

Posted by: Bigby's ASL at July 23, 2015 04:52 PM (3ZtZW)

205
We've seen in recent elections what happens if the GOPe doesn't get the
candidates it wants and the proles try to force someone else on them.

The GOp tantrum over *the guy leading their polls* shows us its their party, their playground, not ours.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 23, 2015 04:47 PM (oVJmc)

You can only own that which you can successfully defend. That's the rules of the real world.

Posted by: DFCtomm at July 23, 2015 04:52 PM (fUDry)

206 You know, maybe my memory is faulty, but the arguments made in this post remind me of the arguments made by those pushing Ross Perot back in 1992.

It sounds more like a desire to get revenge than an actual thoughtful position.

Of course, I could be wrong. I'll have to wait and see.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Sound Less Rage-Crazy, Get Quality Euphemisms at the Outrage Outlet! at July 23, 2015 04:52 PM (hLRSq)

207 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 23, 2015 04:46

I'm no Jeb fan but that's idiotic. A simple google search of positions of the candidates will provide the answer you requested.

Posted by: Cruzinator at July 23, 2015 04:53 PM (N4pek)

208 48
40 I agree, but he is raising some issues that are

legitimate concerns for conservatives. Thus, calling supporters idiots

and crazies is a stupid strategy.

Posted by: Benji Carver at July 23, 2015 04:23 PM (OD2ni)

I have not slimed any supporters.
-------------
No Vic, you are cool, but the GOP fat-cat donors who wanted to deny a legit candidate equal time are the stupid ones who used the slime. It didn't do them or the party any favors.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 23, 2015 04:53 PM (ry4ab)

209 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 23, 2015 04:49 PM (OSs/l)

I don't. What, precisely, could they give him? I don't think he cares about a political posting. He's rich beyond the dreams of Avarice. He's a celebrity, and will be for a long time.

I don't think she *has* anything she could give him.

That said- he's *still* the perfect Burn it Down candidate. Even if all he achieves is nuking the GOPe from orbit, that's a goal worth achieving.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 23, 2015 04:53 PM (kff5f)

210 A party that's worth a shit couldn't get their thunder stolen by a clown in a bad wig.

That's just it -- I don't think it is a wig.

I think we need to face the uncomfortable truth that it's his fucking hair, in the world's most elaborate comb-over.

You know, I thought the world was coming to an end when Bill Clinton was elected.

I look back, and now see how naive and innocent I really was, then.

Posted by: Phinn at July 23, 2015 04:53 PM (DLUnW)

211 "Trump's popularity would skyrocket."

The man has a sense of theater. If he brought out Clint Eastwood to moderate, the crowd would go apeshit.

Posted by: Feh at July 23, 2015 04:53 PM (LWyqh)

212 That PPP poll is an uber liberal poll.

Very interesting triangulation here. Huckster is at 8%. Carson is still at 10%?!

Notice neither of them have gone after Trump. Same really with Rand Paul and Ted Cruz, both at 4%.

If somehow Trump can garner their voters, watch the fuck out. They are very independent voters. I'd promise Rand AG for sure.

Then the who knows what he is Walker is strong at 17%.

Then the establishment fake candidates Rubio at 10%, Jeb at 12%, and Perry the carnie barker at 1%.

Very interesting triangulation occurring. My only wildcard is Walker. How does that play out?

Posted by: prescient11 at July 23, 2015 04:53 PM (q5APL)

213
The pecking order is WASP, Catholic, Black/gay, Woman, Clown, then Jew.
Posted by: Bigby's ASL

Almost right:

Space Lizard, WASP, Catholic, Black/gay, Woman, Clown, then Jew.

Posted by: The British Space Lizard Monarchists

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 23, 2015 04:53 PM (kdS6q)

214 I saw Walker said in an interview yesterday he would like Rubio as a running mate. He is so dead to me. Rubio is a gang of 8 traitor. nuf said

Posted by: tinfoilbaby at July 23, 2015 04:53 PM (Ii765)

215 Anyway, not being a cog in the machine is a pretty attractive characteristic, I think.
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at July 23, 2015 04:46 PM (BZAd3)

Even Trump can point that not only is he not a cog, but as a mea culpa he can point out how his nuts were put into the vise by this machine. Like Walmart. Like Microsoft. He would go far in calling out the cronyism corruption of the Uni-Party in DC and how they set up this game of Pay to Play.

Remember Chris McDaniel.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 23, 2015 04:53 PM (HKyCl)

216 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus: "Commando - like what I'll be sending in to Iran to take out their nuclear program!"

You know, I actually think Trump would say that. And mean it. First, he doesn't take the baited, offered options; then he offers what he would do with braggadocio.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 23, 2015 04:53 PM (1CroS)

217 [$][$] - Rick Perry sees his future in the GOP donor class.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 04:53 PM (cNtqS)

218 Jindall is going to be worth a second look

Only if you can stay awake while he's talking. The man has no charisma.

Posted by: wrg500 at July 23, 2015 04:53 PM (sWgE+)

219 A party that's worth a shit couldn't get their thunder stolen by a clown in a bad wig. Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 23, 2015 04:48 PM

A party that's worth a shit wouldn't need to get their thunder stolen by a Donald Trump. They would have co-opted his issues and his willingness to go to the mat on important issues. And they would have done it long ago.

The question now is: can the Republican Party grow a pair? Can any of the other wannabe Preezys grow a pair? Definitely not on the former, and probably not on the latter.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 23, 2015 04:53 PM (rCmeG)

220 I might even watch the debate if Jeb!, Rubio and Walker eliminated themselves (particularly Jeb! and Rubio who I will never ever EVER vote for).

Posted by: redbanzai at July 23, 2015 04:54 PM (OrI3J)

221 @190 - the problem is that I think in the end Walker's already going to be where Jindal would be going.

I like Jindal, but I think Walker's a better bet this time 'round.

Posted by: The Devoceleraptor (sometimes JEM) at July 23, 2015 04:54 PM (o+SC1)

222 99 What's the over/under on them trying to have Trump killed at some point?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 23, 2015 04:36 PM (shLnc)

Not sure we're that far down the rabbit hole yet, but who knows? It happens everywhere else and has for all of human history. We'll get there eventually.

Trump's got great security I'm sure though, and knowing these clusterfucks even if they tried it they'd probably kill Jeb by accident.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 23, 2015 04:54 PM (oFCZn)

223 Trump is a plant and his job is to secure another
Clinton presidency.

Maybe, but I doubt it. It's pretty hard to laugh his characterization of Her Thighness as a "criminal." Kissing and making up after that one is going to be a tall order. Not that what he said isn't true, of course. It absolutely is.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 23, 2015 04:54 PM (oKE6c)

224 As long as Rinse Penis/GOPe continue to perform mouth hugs to the COC and big business, they become deaf to us. If it is their goal to "force" a candidate upon us, they do so at their peril. Think conservatives stayed at home when Romney ran? You'll be able to hear crickets this time.

If it means the Republican elites lose and we get Shillary/O'Malley/Sanders as president - so be it. The Senate should be considered a loss as well.

Yes, I am heavily leaning towards the Burn it down, salt the earth, scatter the stones. SMOD - please hurry.

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at July 23, 2015 04:55 PM (DlmoZ)

225 "Looking at you Rick Perry. "

First Cruz flames out and now Perry is doing his level best to stomp his own sack. I don't get it.

And Perry, running in a deep red state at a time when no Dem could get elected to anything higher than country sheriff, did not have any real tough election opponents. Bill White anyone? Yeah, thought so.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 23, 2015 04:55 PM (LA7Cm)

226 That's just it -- I don't think it is a wig.

I think we need to face the uncomfortable truth that it's his fucking hair, in the world's most elaborate comb-over.

If you have billions of dollars, you can have a comb-over so intricate it looks like a wig?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 23, 2015 04:55 PM (shLnc)

227
Finally!

A philosophy I can get behind.

What with me being all heartless and evil and such.

Posted by: TRUMPISM!!!!111!!!! at July 23, 2015 04:55 PM (KUa85)

228 >>>>and I will laugh and laugh as I cast my vote for Trump in both the primary and the general.

that's quite the turnaround from, like, yesterday.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 04:55 PM (AkOaV)

229 145 Trump is a plant and his job is to secure another Clinton presidency. Always remember that damaging Republican primaries and third party spoilers, is how the Clintons win national elections. Some people seem to be fine with that.
Posted by: Begonia at July 23, 2015 04:43 PM (LNNb/)
-------------
Yep.
I fear this may be true.
Hey, if wonderful Billy needed a Ross Perot to win, how the hell is the Hillwitch gonna win on her own?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 23, 2015 04:55 PM (cN9Sk)

230 @212 - "Very interesting triangulation occurring. My only wildcard is Walker. How does that play out?"

I hear Trump and Cruz have been forming an alliance behind the scenes.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at July 23, 2015 04:55 PM (Mtb58)

231 Yeah, Vote For Me Because I'm Not That Guy

Real fvcking strong platform you got there. Rally those troops for such a high and noble purpose!

I'm Not Hillary Clinton!

What lofty goals you set for your candidates. What sterling credentials.

Mental marvels you are.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 23, 2015 04:55 PM (xSCb6)

232
Yep!!

Posted by: gDavid at July 23, 2015 04:56 PM (UPWra)

233 >>It sounds more like a desire to get revenge than an actual thoughtful position.

Welcome to the internet. Make yourself at home.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2015 04:56 PM (OGm46)

234 @ 216 - "You know, I actually think Trump would say that. And mean it. First, he doesn't take the baited, offered options; then he offers what he would do with braggadocio."

And that's because, love him or hate him, Trump is the only genuine Alpha male in the entire GOP field.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at July 23, 2015 04:56 PM (Mtb58)

235 You will vote for Jeb! and like it.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 23, 2015 04:56 PM (NaeCR)

236 @189
@189

This is the very first thing you see on the Mexichurian candidates website.

My life changed forever when I was a young man on an exchange program in Leon Guanajoto Mexico. Across a plaza, I saw a girl. She spoke little English, and my Spanish was a work in progress. But for me, it was love at first sight. Some people don't think that's a real thing-but I know. I couldnt sleep; I couldn't eat; I lost 20 pounds. From the moment I got to know her, I knew that I wanted to spend the rest of my life with her.

That man can never be allowed to step foot into the White House.

Trump 2016 may be our last best hope to save the Republic.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 23, 2015 04:56 PM (PaAcR)

237 I think we need to face the uncomfortable truth that it's his fucking hair, in the world's most elaborate comb-over.

If you have billions of dollars, you can have a comb-over so intricate it looks like a wig?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 23, 2015 04:55 PM (shLnc)

http://tinyurl.com/4ppxff

Daily Mail makes a convincing argument that it's the rarely seen DOUBLE comb over.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 04:56 PM (AkOaV)

238 [/][\] - Rick Perry : British Space Lizard Monarchist

Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 04:56 PM (cNtqS)

239 186 "Nope. The pecking order is WASP, Catholic, Black/gay, Woman, Clown, then Jew. "

Don't forget Mormon. It's Mormon, then Jew.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 23, 2015 04:49 PM (LA7Cm)

I'm still voting for J.J.
I don't care if I have my religions out of order.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantarian at July 23, 2015 04:56 PM (Z58Xa)

240
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel

I'm Daniel's real pappy.

Posted by: Paulo at July 23, 2015 04:57 PM (JtwS4)

241 The thing I like about Trump is that he's a loose cannon by conventional politician standards with their polls and focus groups. God knows what he's going to say on any given occasion, although in many cases (at least recently) he's channeling what a lot of conservatives think. I just can imagine GOPe types getting the runny squits every time he steps up to a microphone.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 23, 2015 04:57 PM (oKE6c)

242 >>>> I'm Not Hillary Clinton!

"I'm not a witch! I'm just like you!"

Posted by: Bigby's ASL at July 23, 2015 04:57 PM (3ZtZW)

243 Imagine the world is a violent playground full of burning tires and people talking shit.

Now imagine Jindal walking into that playground and being told to whip it into shape.

Got it?

He's a minor cabinet position, tops.

Posted by: Feh at July 23, 2015 04:58 PM (LWyqh)

244 You will vote for Jeb! and like it.

Posted by: Burnt Toast

If El Jeb is the nominee, I will vote for a write in or stay at home.

Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 23, 2015 04:58 PM (/Ho8c)

245 Trump is a plant ... by: Begonia

Look who's casting vegetable aspersions.
Read the post. Trump wouldn't be getting any sunlight if the GOPe was working the field like a man.

Posted by: DaveA at July 23, 2015 04:58 PM (DL2i+)

246 79
Posted by: joe at July 23, 2015 04:21 PM (KUaJL)

Trump is a cluebat. He's saying the things we want the others to say
and that need to be said. Let them watch their support bleed away until
they get that clue.
--------------
That is a viable reason for support. The Democrats and the LSM enablers understand the cluebat quite well, which is why they are afraid of Trump right now.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 23, 2015 04:58 PM (ry4ab)

247 How do you morons like my round-frame glasses?
( # )( # )

Posted by: meeeghan mccain at July 23, 2015 04:58 PM (kivUY)

248 Where did the space lizard thing come from? I've been seeing that meme everywhere the last 2/3 days.

Posted by: eleven at July 23, 2015 04:58 PM (MDgS8)

249 The man has a sense of theater. If he brought out Clint Eastwood to moderate, the crowd would go apeshit.

Boom! Game over.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 23, 2015 04:58 PM (X88sA)

250
My life changed forever when I was a young man on an exchange program in Leon Guanajoto Mexico. Across a plaza, I saw a girl. She spoke little English, and my Spanish was a work in progress. But for me, it was love at first sight.
Posted by: Kreplach

I'm pretty sure those are just the lyrics to The Monkees' "What am I Doing Hangin' Round?"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 23, 2015 04:58 PM (kdS6q)

251 >>>>and I will laugh and laugh as I cast my vote for Trump in both the primary and the general.

that's quite the turnaround from, like, yesterday.

GOP hatred tops out all other motivators in Maslow's Heirarchy of Political Needs

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 23, 2015 04:58 PM (8ZskC)

252

Serious question, why do the anti-Trumpers think that anyone would be scared by the "but, but Hillary!!!" whining 15 months out?

Posted by: --[ .]-[ .]-- at July 23, 2015 04:59 PM (XIXZz)

253 Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 04:56 PM (AkOaV)

Trump is the best candidate ever. The diagram of his head looks like the arrows of the Normandy Invasion.

Nothing is more entertaining than this freakshow.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 23, 2015 04:59 PM (shLnc)

254 214 I saw Walker said in an interview yesterday he would like Rubio as a running mate. He is so dead to me. Rubio is a gang of 8 traitor. nuf said
Posted by: tinfoilbaby at July 23, 2015 04:53 PM (Ii765)

Look at who Walker (and perry for that matter) has hired as consultants.

Big time GOPe names.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 04:59 PM (AkOaV)

255 @ 245 - "Read the post. Trump wouldn't be getting any sunlight if the GOPe was working the field like a man."

A decent political party wouldn't be getting its lunch money stolen by Trump the way it is now.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at July 23, 2015 04:59 PM (Mtb58)

256 >>> I'm still voting for J.J.

Tell him to wear a fez! A FEZ!!!!1

Posted by: Bigby's ASL at July 23, 2015 04:59 PM (3ZtZW)

257 Democratic presidential candidate Martin O'Malley on Thursday won praise
from a well-known liberal group for his positions on Wall Street, a
sign that progressive advocates are taking notice of his efforts to run a
campaign to the left of Hillary Clinton.

How far to the left, Martin. To the left of Bernie.
How did the underware shopping go? You probably needed clean ones after meeting the Black Lives Matter crowd...

Posted by: Colin at July 23, 2015 04:59 PM (dvwsD)

258 OK gotta go

Posted by: Bigby's ASL at July 23, 2015 04:59 PM (3ZtZW)

259 "I'm still voting for J.J. "

I'd vote for the Hebrew Hammer too. Write-in campaign maybe.....?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 23, 2015 04:59 PM (LA7Cm)

260 Begonia: "He is not a criminal and not responsible for the death of any American ambassadors, as far as I am aware."

He gave a Liberty Award, personally, to Hillary! on the one-year anniversary of Benghazi.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 23, 2015 05:00 PM (1CroS)

261 If you have billions of dollars, you can have a comb-over so intricate it looks like a wig?

You have to consider the possibility that Trump is crazy.

Smart? Yes.

Good at a certain range of people skills? Yes.

But crazy in his own special way that includes, but is not limited to, his hair.

And I kind of like that about him, mind you -- his eccentricities. In a certain gallows-humor WHERE THE FUCK IS SMOD sort of way.

Plus, fuck Jeb.

Posted by: Phinn at July 23, 2015 05:00 PM (DLUnW)

262 Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 23, 2015 04:58 PM (/Ho8c)

No no you're ruining the meme that it's the GOPe supporters that threaten to stay home.

Posted by: Cruzinator at July 23, 2015 05:00 PM (N4pek)

263 Maslow's Heirarchy of Political Needs

Great name for a band.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 23, 2015 05:00 PM (W5DcG)

264 Trump is the best candidate ever. The diagram of his head looks like the arrows of the Normandy Invasion.

Nothing is more entertaining than this freakshow.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 23, 2015 04:59 PM (shLnc)

I just love how illustrative it is of what our political process has devolved in to.

Why not have a reality TV star and "personality" run for president?

The entire political process is a joke, why not just go with it? Trump is way more entertaining than anyone else on the R side.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 05:00 PM (AkOaV)

265 Another chapter in the annals of "Just How F*cking Stupid Is John Kerry Anyway?":

Reportedly, one of those secret side deals in Obama/Kerry's big Iranian deal provides that if Iran is suspected of developing nuclear weapons and the other side wants inspections, the soil and other samples to be tested from the site where the suspected weapons are being made will be provided . . . by Iran.

"Just trust us, infidels! Why would we lie to you when we looooove you devils so much?"

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 23, 2015 05:01 PM (kGrdk)

266 That man can never be allowed to step foot into the White House.
Posted by: Kreplach at July 23, 2015 04:56 PM

Jeebus Crisco, did Jeb! actually say that?

I try to stay away from politicians' websites, as they are almost always choked with indigestible pablum. Bush is obviously a bigger fool than anyone else in the race. He's too damn dumb to be considered even for local political office.

I've kinda had a feeling I should avoid Jeb!'s webpages. Someone Up There likes me, I guess.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 23, 2015 05:01 PM (rCmeG)

267 "I'm still voting for J.J. "

I'd vote for the Hebrew Hammer too.
Write-in campaign maybe.....?

JJ is a lawyer?

Call JJ Sefton, The Hebrew Hammer!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 23, 2015 05:01 PM (X88sA)

268 "I'm still voting for J.J. "

I dunno about that. I think we need someone a little more WASPy.

J.J., could you change your last name to something a little more Anglo-Saxon sounding like...uh...Sefton?

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at July 23, 2015 05:01 PM (Mtb58)

269 Krep, I saw you posting that earlier.

You're right, there's nothing to say other than that's just fucking embarrassing.

His website can switch to Spanish. The text is the same.

He doesn't even come *up* for a vote of confidence.

Posted by: Feh at July 23, 2015 05:01 PM (LWyqh)

270 And my eyes are up here!
( # )( # )

Posted by: meeeghan mccain at July 23, 2015 05:02 PM (kivUY)

271 I don't see Trump running third party. His thinking and this is just my opinion is, if I can't beat these smucks in the republican party I don't deserve to be president.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 23, 2015 04:50 PM (sWgE+)

---------------------------------------

And this is basically what he said a few minutes ago. He reiterated that he was a repub and would run as a repub. He made no mention of going third party if it looks like another candidate might win.

Posted by: Soona at July 23, 2015 05:02 PM (P25Hh)

272 Trump could win in the same sense that I could have a fourway with Kate Upton, Kate Beckinsdale and Kate Middleton.

But hey, some unknown person spitballed the dumb idea of a debate boycott, and even though it was immediately rejected we should all pretend to be outraged on behalf of the thin-skinned pussbag Donald Trump.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 23, 2015 05:02 PM (DjbEj)

273 206
You know, maybe my memory is faulty, but the arguments made in this post
remind me of the arguments made by those pushing Ross Perot back in
1992.

THIS is the litmus test.

If Trump goes third party he is Perot and done.

If America has anything left in the tank, it can't take another third party failed run in addition to Hillary.

We will be Venezuela in the best case scenario.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 05:02 PM (cNtqS)

274 257 Colin -
You raise a good point. The democraps are in a race to see just how far left they can get. Don't discount the fact that -generally speaking - the US voting population is middle of the road / lean right. Their hard left turn to wow the FSA folks may hurt them in the general election.

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at July 23, 2015 05:02 PM (DlmoZ)

275 "the soil and other samples to be tested from the site where the suspected weapons are being made will be provided . . . by Iran. "

What could possib..............oh wait.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 23, 2015 05:03 PM (LA7Cm)

276 114
Gentlefolk:

We will be replacing Michelle Obama with Marlena Trump.

-------------------
Yes, that is a good selling point, a First Lady who will not be an angry food nazi and Air Force One frequent flier. Trump will have UPS deliver to WH instead.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 23, 2015 05:03 PM (ry4ab)

277 GOP hatred tops out all other motivators in Maslow's Heirarchy of Political Needs
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 23, 2015 04:58 PM (8ZskC)

Heh.

Well I'm glad ace has finally come around. I'm not sure I'd go so far as to vote for Trump, but I'm glad ace has moved past the "AHHH FUCK TRUMP" stage in to the "Ah, this is actually kind of humorous and may serve a purpose in the long run" stage.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 05:03 PM (AkOaV)

278 So they'll promise to "build the damn wall" like McJuan did. Will they deliver? No.

Your grand victory over them will be that you made them pander to you instead of the Mexicans drug cartel consulates. Is it something? No.

Trump is a good option because his election actually punishes the wicked. Not all the wicked, but at least some. Is it something? Oh, yes!

Posted by: Aristotle at July 23, 2015 05:03 PM (9Q/ou)

279 Man this post has probably sent both the establishment shills and the "ace is an establishment shill" whiners to the fainting couches.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 23, 2015 05:03 PM (z/Ubi)

280 262 Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 23, 2015 04:58 PM (/Ho8c)

No no you're ruining the meme that it's the GOPe supporters that threaten to stay home.
Posted by: Cruzinator at July 23, 2015 05:00 PM (N4pek)

GOPe supporters stay home when they don't get their way. It's not a meme, it's a fact.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 23, 2015 05:03 PM (shLnc)

281 Trump isn't going to win the GOP nomination - so the real question is, will you vote for Trump as a 3rd party candidate?

Posted by: packsoldier at July 23, 2015 05:03 PM (8T8H7)

282 The Name
Gave a Clue

BROGAN....

Now Now

Does not really matter who the phoney in charge is does it?
You could elect Kenneth Murphy Himself as Commander in Thief, who by the way poses as FEMAS Region X Director.

The real time event will be that the peasants are pitch fork ready after the last mid-term election.
Or Breach Birth as we say in the hood.

Posted by: Plastic Sturgeon at July 23, 2015 05:03 PM (/WmRg)

283 Corrected Copy:

He would go far IF HE WERE calling out the cronyism corruption of the Uni-Party in DC and how they set up this game of Pay to Play.

Remember Chris McDaniel.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 23, 2015 05:03 PM (HKyCl)

284 Why not have a reality TV star and "personality" run for president?

The entire political process is a joke, why not just go with it? Trump is way more entertaining than anyone else on the R side.

Think of all of the Ms. America contestants he could have at the convention.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 23, 2015 05:04 PM (X88sA)

285 If the GOP loses because of Trump, it's a mortal wound--and it's entirely self-inflicted.

Remember that article about Hillary being a monster in the old sense of being an omen?

Trump is the GOP's monster. Congratulations, Dr. Priebustein, the creature lives--whether you like it or not.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 23, 2015 05:04 PM (2l5vw)

286 We will be Venezuela in the best case scenario.

With the LIV and FSA folks, we'll be Venezuala no matter what. Only question is how fast and who is pilot of the ship.

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at July 23, 2015 05:04 PM (DlmoZ)

287 You raise a good point. The democraps are in a race to see just how far left they can get. Don't discount the fact that -generally speaking - the US voting population is middle of the road / lean right. Their hard left turn to wow the FSA folks may hurt them in the general election.
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at July 23, 2015 05:02 PM (DlmoZ)

I don't think that's true.

I think David Plouffe is right -- there really isn't a sizable "middle" in american politics.

Elections are all about base turn out.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 05:04 PM (AkOaV)

288 First Cruz flames out and now Perry is doing his level best to stomp his own sack. I don't get it.

And Perry, running in a deep red state at a time when no Dem could
get elected to anything higher than country sheriff, did not have any
real tough election opponents. Bill White anyone? Yeah, thought so.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 23, 2015 04:55 PM (LA7Cm)

Perry and Cruz were never going to be allowed to win. They both realize that by now, I'm sure. Gope decides who it will nominate. Gope always decides.

Gope wants Jeb, and Jeb is what they will get. No matter how much they rip the Party apart between now and then. Republican LiVs aren't yet aware just how low and craven their Party is. As they continue to attempt to undermine the Trump candidacy, Republican LiVs will figure it out.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 23, 2015 05:04 PM (TOk1P)

289 My life changed forever when I was a young man on an exchange program in Leon Guanajoto Mexico. Across a plaza, I saw a girl. She spoke little English, and my Spanish was a work in progress. But for me, it was love at first sight.

A total unforced error by Bush. In a time when a majority of the electorate seethes about illegal immigration, Jebbie can't think of anything better to lead off with on his website than a confession of his pathological obsession with a Mexican woman?

God, what a dumbshit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 23, 2015 05:04 PM (8ZskC)

290 He gave a Liberty Award, personally, to Hillary! on the one-year anniversary of Benghazi.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 23, 2015 05:00 PM (1CroS)
_______

Well, I dont approve of that. But this is hardly a reason to bury the candidacy of such an excellent Governor. And it could lend his criticisms credibility, since it demonstrates that he is not a knee-jerk partisan. People will appreciate that.

Posted by: Begonia Cloggenstein at July 23, 2015 05:04 PM (LNNb/)

291 Think of all of the Ms. America contestants he could have at the convention.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 23, 2015 05:04 PM (X88sA)

Oh yeah. And the Presidents Blue Ribbon Commission of Large Boobehs may even become a reality,

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 05:05 PM (AkOaV)

292 fourway with Kate Upton, Kate Beckinsdale and Kate Middleton.

I think we're still on for Friday night. No one has called to cancel yet.

Posted by: wrg500 at July 23, 2015 05:05 PM (sWgE+)

293 -
145
Trump is a plant and his job is to secure another Clinton presidency.
Always remember that damaging Republican primaries and third party
spoilers, is how the Clintons win national elections. Some people seem
to be fine with that.

Posted by: Begonia at July 23, 2015 04:43 PM
----------------------------------

If the Clintons (or whoever pulls all the strings in your world) are powerful enough to control Trump, then they are unbeatable anyway. No point in worrying.

Posted by: irright at July 23, 2015 05:05 PM (DtNNC)

294 Why not have a reality TV star and "personality" run for president?

Jesse Ventura.

Posted by: Captain Oblivious at July 23, 2015 05:05 PM (hiT/m)

295 Posted by: Hollowpoint

Yet another mark in Trump's favor.

You and your GOP are 0 for 2 now , sparky.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 05:05 PM (cNtqS)

296 If the Gop can't take on Donald Trump, how the fuck are they going to take on ISIS, IRAN, Russia....democrats....(but I repeat myself)

Posted by: MrKnowItAll at July 23, 2015 05:05 PM (uJK1E)

297 What could Team Clinton offer Trump?

Trade deals? Roles in the Administration? If I thought about it i could think of a lot more.

I don't trust him As with most politicians most of the time I don't know if he really believes what he says or not.

And this may be my own thing but I'm really leery of a Christian who says they never ask forgiveness of God and they go to church for "their wine and cracker. "And NO, I'm not voting for a theocrat or supportive of a theocracy, but if you claim to be a Christian and offer such shallow, foolish comments.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 23, 2015 05:06 PM (OSs/l)

298 Well, I dont approve of that. But this is hardly a reason to bury the candidacy of such an excellent Governor. And it could lend his criticisms credibility, since it demonstrates that he is not a knee-jerk partisan. People will appreciate that.
Posted by: Begonia at July 23, 2015 05:04 PM (LNNb/)

...are you for real, or just being funny?

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 05:06 PM (AkOaV)

299 How's this for a scenario.
It's Jeb vs Hillary and Trump is running as an independent.
Trump goes to Cruz, "Hey we can win this together. Be my VP. We'll announce it tomorrow. Your a smart guy, I need a smart guy. I know I'll get bored with that job in two years. Then I'll resign. You finish the first term, run for reelection as the incumbent. If things are running as smoothly as I think. You'll get reelected for two terms on your own. So that will give you ten years to get this country back on track. It will be Huuuge!"

Posted by: Paladin at July 23, 2015 05:06 PM (ycm4Q)

300 Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 23, 2015 05:02 PM (DjbEj)

Ah. A little late to the party, but here they come.

And *someone* sounds like a "thin-skinned pussy bag" here...

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 23, 2015 05:06 PM (kff5f)

301 281
Trump isn't going to win the GOP nomination - so the real question is, will you vote for Trump as a 3rd party candidate?

Depends on who the GOPe nominee ends up being.

I honestly think if we are to save this country from its rulers, a 3rd (4th even 5th) party is needed. Is it going to be painful? Oh yeah. Worth it? In the long run definitely. We have to play chess, not checkers.

Otherwise, see my stance on burning, salting, scattering.

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at July 23, 2015 05:06 PM (DlmoZ)

302
We will be replacing Michelle Obama with Marlena Trump.

Malia's Green Goblin face replaced by Ivanka's Christmas Angel visage.

Big gain

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 23, 2015 05:06 PM (kdS6q)

303 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 23, 2015 05:04 PM (8Zs

That's not a pathological obsession. That woman became his wife.

Posted by: Cruzinator at July 23, 2015 05:07 PM (N4pek)

304 You have to consider the possibility that Trump is crazy.

Trump 2016 : Nuke the Moon*

* FrankJ /IMAO

Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 05:07 PM (cNtqS)

305 Well, I dont approve of that. But this is hardly a
reason to bury the candidacy of such an excellent Governor. And it could
lend his criticisms credibility, since it demonstrates that he is not a
knee-jerk partisan. People will appreciate that.

Posted by: Begonia at July 23, 2015 05:04 P

Full name "Begonia Cloggenstein?"

Y'all from Brattleboro too?

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 23, 2015 05:07 PM (rCmeG)

306 meant "Don't offer such....."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 23, 2015 05:07 PM (OSs/l)

307 294 Why not have a reality TV star and "personality" run for president?

Jesse Ventura.
Posted by: Captain Oblivious at July 23, 2015 05:05 PM (hiT/m)

Maybe Jesse Ventura can be put in charge of Trumps new cabinet position on discovering UFOs or something.

I'm not sure what role he could play, but hopefully Trump finds room for him.

I'm hoping Trump taps Caitlyn Jenner (a self proclaimed constitutional republican) as his running mate.

THAT, my friends, would put a smile on my face. In a sad, yet humorous way.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 05:07 PM (AkOaV)

308 Trump isn't going to win the GOP nomination - so the real question is, will you vote for Trump as a 3rd party candidate?

Posted by: packsoldier at July 23, 2015 05:03 PM (8T8H7)

I am sure Trump won't be the Republican nominee. If he ran as a third party candidate, I might vote for him, but I'd probably just leave the top of the ticket blank. I'm almost certainly not going to vote for the Republican nominee. More certain of that than I am that I would not vote for Trump.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 23, 2015 05:07 PM (TOk1P)

309 I'm still voting for Bill the Cat.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 23, 2015 05:08 PM (JtwS4)

310 296
If the Gop can't take on Donald Trump, how the fuck are they going to
take on ISIS, IRAN, Russia....democrats....(but I repeat myself)

AWESOME POST!

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at July 23, 2015 05:08 PM (DlmoZ)

311 155
Also : Herman Cain said today that he likes Trump because he "can't be bought".

He
went on to talk about how most of the GOP crowd wants to "tweak" things
and not repeal or replace things like Obamacare and the tax code.

FWIW Cain likes Ben Carson and Trump.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 04:44 PM (cNtqS)

Cain, Romney, and some guy named paolo the cuck maker is following Trump on twitter.

Posted by: rebel flounder at July 23, 2015 05:08 PM (Vf5rR)

312
Imagine that trump and Fiorina meet. Then imagine trump wondering
when Hillarity will get her walker out and show up on stage to debate
him.

While waiting, he and Fiorina talk about IT and e-mail policy and
their experiences with that, while running real operations. Stuff that
any middle class voter would recognize as policies that govern their
lives.
------------
Now all you need is Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan to play them and this movie is off to the races!

Posted by: exdem13 at July 23, 2015 05:08 PM (ry4ab)

313 299 Trump goes to ~~Cruz~~ Herman Cain, "Hey we can win this together. Be my VP."

FIFY

Posted by: Captain Oblivious at July 23, 2015 05:08 PM (hiT/m)

314 This is the very first thing you see on the Mexichurian candidates website.

My life changed forever when I was a young man on an exchange program in Leon Guanajoto Mexico. Across a plaza, I saw a girl. She spoke little English, and my Spanish was a work in progress. But for me, it was love at first sight. Some people don't think that's a real thing-but I know. I couldnt sleep; I couldn't eat; I lost 20 pounds. From the moment I got to know her, I knew that I wanted to spend the rest of my life with her.

That man can never be allowed to step foot into the White House.

Trump 2016 may be our last best hope to save the Republic.
Posted by: Kreplach at July 23, 2015 04:56 PM (PaAcR)
____________________________

Isn't Columba the wife who was taking out loans to buy jewelry?

Whatever. Bush sounds like the wimpy loser whose wife is being banged by Paolo.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 23, 2015 05:08 PM (kGrdk)

315 I honestly think if we are to save this country from its rulers, a 3rd (4th even 5th) party is needed. Is it going to be painful? Oh yeah. Worth it? In the long run definitely. We have to play chess, not checkers.

Otherwise, see my stance on burning, salting, scattering.
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at July 23, 2015 05:06 PM (DlmoZ)

I think a scenario of Clinton v Bush v Sanders v Trump would, in the long run, be a good thing.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 05:08 PM (AkOaV)

316 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 23, 2015 05:06 PM (OSs/l)

What did they offer Perot in 92?

Odd how this is shaping up EXACTLY THE SAME.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at July 23, 2015 05:09 PM (hhQEJ)

317 It sounds more like a desire to get revenge than an actual thoughtful position.

Welcome to the internet. Make yourself at home.

The GOPe has no one to blame but themselves, they've gone beyond parody, thru enabling, to treason and are blaming US for being upset with them.

Posted by: DaveA at July 23, 2015 05:09 PM (DL2i+)

318 Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 23, 2015 05:02 PM (DjbEj)

Ah. A little late to the party, but here they come.

And *someone* sounds like a "thin-skinned pussy bag" here...

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 23, 2015 05:06 PM (kff5f)

Ah yes, there he is. The Hollowhead. To tell you the truth I kinda missed the little fella. If we didn't have Hollowhead to kick around, if he wasn't real, we would have to invent him.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 23, 2015 05:10 PM (TOk1P)

319 Where did the space lizard thing come from? I've been seeing that meme everywhere the last 2/3 days.

Posted by: eleven

It's a real conspiracy-theorist thing, I think.

Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 23, 2015 05:11 PM (/Ho8c)

320 What did they offer Perot in 92?

I don't know, but I was leery of Perot too.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 23, 2015 05:11 PM (OSs/l)

321 The GOPe has no one to blame but themselves, they've gone beyond parody, thru enabling, to treason and are blaming US for being upset with them.
Posted by: DaveA at July 23, 2015 05:09 PM (DL2i+)

And the pols and their donors think we're a bunch of absolute idiots.

So fuck 'em.

Let's show these brilliant smarter than everyone dickfor's that we're done playing their game.

And political supply and demand will fix the rest.

If we, as a bloc, tell the GOPe to go fuck themselves, eventually someone will come along willing to actually represent US in DC.

In theory at least.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 05:11 PM (AkOaV)

322 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 23, 2015 05:04 PM (8Zs

That's not a pathological obsession. That woman became his wife.

Yeah, I got that. My point still stands. Jebbie, you're already suspected of having a bizarre infatuation with Mexico and Mexicans. Swoon if you must ove ryour wife but do it in private. Don't publicly pile on additional fuel.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 23, 2015 05:11 PM (8ZskC)

323 I keep reading "Doner Class" as "Donner Class" and my spirits are briefly lifted as I anticipate the isolation, suffering and cannibalism amongst the elite. Then I realize they are still running the show, and that I've merely anticipated what they have planned for the rest of us.

Posted by: Edgar Allan Schmoe at July 23, 2015 05:12 PM (uV7zB)

324 Vote Republican! They criticize Obama before passing exactly what he wants!

Posted by: Buzzion at July 23, 2015 05:12 PM (z/Ubi)

325 What could Team Clinton offer Trump?

Trade deals? Roles in the Administration? If I thought about it i could think of a lot more.

Like I said, I don't think a "role in the administration" is really going to draw Trump. Trade deals? Maybe? Does he do a lot of import/export? I thought he was primarily in the hotel/entertainment business. Not nearly as much Fed oversight there as in manufacturing or import/export.

Seriously, I don't think there's a whole lot that Clinton could offer Trump. Which is *not* to say that he's not being a stalking horse for the Dems (though I don't think he is), just that the scheming would have to be even more convoluted than normal.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 23, 2015 05:12 PM (kff5f)

326 319 Where did the space lizard thing come from? I've been seeing that meme everywhere the last 2/3 days.

Posted by: eleven

It's a real conspiracy-theorist thing, I think.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 23, 2015 05:11 PM (/Ho8c)

I don't know how real it is.

Penn & Teller (smug grin over &) did an episode on conspiracy theories and highlighted the lizard people types.

They seemed like paranoid schizophrenics off their meds. I think it's really just 2 or 3 people with a logo and a computer who make up the real believers in that ... strange theory

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 05:12 PM (AkOaV)

327 Melania and Ivanka Trump

vs.

Mooch and Melanoma Obama.

Hmm. Might have to think that one over.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 23, 2015 05:13 PM (oFCZn)

328 IOW, have them run away from the guy who is eating their lunch.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 23, 2015 04:27 PM (oVJmc)

Well that is the typical liberal reaction to danger. Quite fitting I would say.

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at July 23, 2015 05:13 PM (JOG+K)

329 Trump goes to Cruz, "Hey we can win this together.
Be my VP. We'll announce it tomorrow...." Posted by: Paladin at July 23, 2015 05:06 PM

No good. Cruz has proven himself less desirable than teh Donald.

If Trump picked someone like Allen West, he'd cinch my vote, no matter whether he went in as a Republican or Other.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 23, 2015 05:13 PM (rCmeG)

330 And my reply to the next GOPe PAC that calls looking for a donation?

FYNQ.

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at July 23, 2015 05:13 PM (DlmoZ)

331 215
Anyway, not being a cog in the machine is a pretty attractive characteristic, I think.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at July 23, 2015 04:46 PM (BZAd3)

Even Trump can point that not only is he not a cog, but as a mea
culpa he can point out how his nuts were put into the vise by this
machine. Like Walmart. Like Microsoft. He would go far in calling out
the cronyism corruption of the Uni-Party in DC and how they set up this
game of Pay to Play.

---------------
That's a clever out for Trump on his past. He had to pay tribute to Her Thighness and the other pols as the price of doing business, or she (or some other greedy machine hack) would have set the dogs on him.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 23, 2015 05:14 PM (ry4ab)

332 But I hate myself for enjoying grilling meat products. oh, and engaging in hetero sex and having intercourse with women. Because, as a feminist, that's just not me, and Dworkin taught me all intercourse is rape. And I hate that musclecars and trebuchets give me a boner. And I like the 3 stooges, but I hate that I do.

Posted by: docweasel at July 23, 2015 05:14 PM (XxzcU)

333 Yeah, I got that. My point still stands. Jebbie, you're already suspected of having a bizarre infatuation with Mexico and Mexicans. Swoon if you must ove ryour wife but do it in private. Don't publicly pile on additional fuel.

Eh, I'm not gonna fault a guy for loving his wife.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 23, 2015 05:14 PM (shLnc)

334
Some people call us purists. I don't see anything wrong with wanting someone in office who will:
1) Fight amnesty to the death
2) Seriously try to reign in spending
3) Lift the "rules" set in place by the EPA etc.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 23, 2015 05:14 PM (8marX)

335 Ace, I'm still sorta new here, but it sounds like you might have turned the corner on this. I really hope so, 'cause they hate all of us. Least that's what I think. Maybe you can talk to AP, or Ed?

Posted by: rivahgurl at July 23, 2015 05:14 PM (YeHHx)

336 >>The GOPe has no one to blame but themselves, they've gone beyond parody, thru enabling, to treason and are blaming US for being upset with them.

Don't disagree. And I think the vast majority of support Trump is getting right now reflects that anger.

I think Trump is healthy for the party right now. He is forcing the conversation on illegals to the front.

But I also think he will fade as rapidly as he rose.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2015 05:14 PM (OGm46)

337 If they had blocked him from the debates, he would've become a sure thing for the nomination.

"If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."

And although he ain't Oba-wan, we would have struck back for their arrogant and open attempt to manipulate this election.

They have no clue at the anger out here.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 23, 2015 05:14 PM (x3GpS)

338 trump will implode, by his own hand...because he's trump. hell, enjoy the show-kinda like fireworks; not like anybody actually likes them...

Posted by: pahound at July 23, 2015 05:15 PM (JjECE)

339 @322

The man listed himself as Hispanic on a voter form for Christs sake.

He is a mentally disturbed man who has no business running for the presidency of the U.S.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 23, 2015 05:15 PM (PaAcR)

340 -
330
And my reply to the next GOPe PAC that calls looking for a donation?

FYNQ.

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at July 23, 2015 05:13 PM

---------------------

How about "You're Fired!!!"

Posted by: irright at July 23, 2015 05:15 PM (DtNNC)

341 Some people just haven't connected the dots that people fed up with the GOP don't give a rats ass whether someone doesn't adhere to GOP fake ass party planks.

Hell, I don't care that Trump has said liberal things. Most Republican candidates say conservative things and look what that gets us.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at July 23, 2015 05:16 PM (BZAd3)

342 ***"It sounds more like a desire to get revenge than an actual thoughtful position."***

Yeah, when you willingly ignore the thought behind it, sure.

But the thought that goes behind it is that voting for this Republicans have still been giving us Democrat results, so perhaps we shouldn't continue to keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

That's an actual, critical thinking and not voting in lockstep because your betters tell you it must be so. After all, they'll get 'em next time Tiger!

But to make that happen, you need to make your check payable to...

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 23, 2015 05:16 PM (xSCb6)

343 TRUMPALANCHE !

Posted by: bopiddy at July 23, 2015 05:16 PM (9HJf4)

344 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 23, 2015 05:14 PM (shLnc)

I'll fault him since his wife wants all her relatives to come here and stay.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 23, 2015 05:16 PM (x3GpS)

345 Meanwhile Slow Joe sits out the mayhem.

Posted by: Golfman at July 23, 2015 05:16 PM (48QDY)

346 Being amongst kindred spirits, why don't we as a group draw up the platform/demands we want. Maybe Ace would publish the semi-finished product.

A movement has to start somewhere

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at July 23, 2015 05:16 PM (DlmoZ)

347 I dont think Mr. Trump must be offered anything to do this. He is a narcissist who lives for self-promotion. The man has the time of his life. Its a win-win for him and the Clintons.

Posted by: Begonia Cloggenstein at July 23, 2015 05:16 PM (LNNb/)

348 That's a clever out for Trump on his past. He had to pay tribute to Her Thighness and the other pols as the price of doing business, or she (or some other greedy machine hack) would have set the dogs on him.
Posted by: exdem13 at July 23, 2015 05:14 PM (ry4ab)

Yeah, frankly i think it would be a brilliant political move.

Which is why I've been advocating it for weeks.

"The only way I could build my magnificent, world class hotels, unfortunately, is to say the "right things" and grease the right palms. That's not right. That's not America.

So yes, I had to donate money to the corrupt Clinton machine to get my permits approved for the most excellent hotels and properties in the world. Do I wish that wasn't the case? Yes. Do I want to change that? Yes. THAT, folks, is why I'm running for president."

Turns the attacks around on Trump, and calls Clinton corrupt.

Of course, he'd have to be careful how he phrases it or the media would try to get him arrested for admitting to bribing a public official (and clinton would be off the hook, naturally), but I think he can pull it off.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 05:17 PM (AkOaV)

349 I'm still voting for J.J.

Dy-No-Mite!!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 23, 2015 05:17 PM (W5DcG)

350
Look at who Walker (and perry for that matter) has hired as consultants.

Big time GOPe names.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 04:59 PM (AkOaV)

Seriously, who else are they going to choose. The last winning campaigner was Rove and there is nothing but hate here for him.

Lee Atwater is dead.
Regan's guys are dead.

Oh I know, hire a complete unknown and unproven individual.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantarian at July 23, 2015 05:18 PM (Z58Xa)

351 347 I dont think Mr. Trump must be offered anything to do this. He is a narcissist who lives for self-promotion. The man has the time of his life. Its a win-win for him and the Clintons.
Posted by: Begonia at July 23, 2015 05:16 PM (LNNb/)

I frankly don't see how a Trump run helps the Clintons at all, but YMMV I suppose.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 05:18 PM (AkOaV)

352 3 people with a logo and a computer who make up the real believers

Reboot your modem for a new hash or they'll find you.

** Wilhelm Scream **

Posted by: DaveA at July 23, 2015 05:18 PM (DL2i+)

353 Meh...its almost August. Going to be boring news times so why cry havoc and let lose The Donald?
More popcorn anyone???

Posted by: Diogenes at July 23, 2015 05:19 PM (Z9g7j)

354 I love the Democratic party...

Posted by: Paolo's Hump at July 23, 2015 05:19 PM (eOpVe)

355 257
Democratic presidential candidate Martin O'Malley on Thursday won praise

from a well-known liberal group for his positions on Wall Street, a

sign that progressive advocates are taking notice of his efforts to run a

campaign to the left of Hillary Clinton.

How far to the left, Martin. To the left of Bernie.
How did the underware shopping go? You probably needed clean ones after meeting the Black Lives Matter crowd...
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How can a candidate run to the left of Shrillary and not be Bernie Sanders? At that point you might as well hang the hammer and sickle flag and a big Che poster at your interviews.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 23, 2015 05:19 PM (ry4ab)

356 still want an adult in charge; trump ain't it...

Posted by: pahound at July 23, 2015 05:19 PM (JjECE)

357 Seriously, who else are they going to choose. The last winning campaigner was Rove and there is nothing but hate here for him.

Lee Atwater is dead.
Regan's guys are dead.

Oh I know, hire a complete unknown and unproven individual.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humantarian at July 23, 2015 05:18 PM (Z58Xa)

...or hire the people who lost the last two R national elections?

The people who strung Sarah Palin to dry and ran to the media with insults on her out after picking her to be VP, arguably throwing the '08 election?

The people who masterminded the "fuck the base, we need hispanics" strategy?

There are thousands of people who could run these campaigns and advise these candidates. And some of them have probably even WON elections in the past.

But yeah, go with the same losers who have never won a national election and who hate conservatives. That's the smart move.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 05:19 PM (AkOaV)

358 "And this is basically what he said a few minutes ago. He reiterated that he was a repub and would run as a repub. He made no mention of going third party if it looks like another candidate might win."

Right. Those headlines were a set-up, as usual, trying to sandbag him. Same sh!t media. Of course, all the GOPee-Pees came out running saying that he'd already declared some hypothetical 3rd party run.

Posted by: Glengarry Glen Trump at July 23, 2015 05:20 PM (Ixbid)

359 "The only way I could build my magnificent, world class hotels, unfortunately, is to say the "right things" and grease the right palms. That's not right. That's not America.

So yes, I had to donate money to the corrupt Clinton machine to get my permits approved for the most excellent hotels and properties in the world. Do I wish that wasn't the case? Yes. Do I want to change that? Yes. THAT, folks, is why I'm running for president."

--------

I thought he had already said something along these lines.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 23, 2015 05:20 PM (z/Ubi)

360 And how, exactly, did they think they could legally disqualify him?

And how, as you note, was this going to be _popular_ with the some 30% of those now supporting Trump?

I think, Trump saying he is now open to a third-party run is his way of MAD.

And here we are, how many weeks into the Trump run and NOT ONE FUCKING candidate running is able to steal his thunder?

I mean, he has 30% of the primary votes.

2012 Romney ties IA with 28%; wins NH with 39%; loses SC with 28% and then wins FL at 46%. By SC, the field was down to 4.

30% now gets him IA, NH and SC.

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 23, 2015 05:20 PM (ZvKdv)

361 What it comes down to: Do you prefer the chaotic Trump who may or may not be lying to you over over the likes of the demonstrably duplicitous GOPe who have and are lying to you even today?

Case in Point: McCain; Boehner; McConnell; Rubio; Rove; Corker; Bush; Barbour etc., etc.

What did they say about these issues previous to their elec-tion and what have they actually done: Obamacare; Out of control IRS; Global warming and EPA; Iran; Immigration, Bengazi; Anti-constitutional persons appointed as judges, cabinet members and heads of departments; etc. etc. Their collusion with the left to reduce our freedoms and to deny conservatives a fair election (Remember Chris McDaniel); etc., etc.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 23, 2015 05:20 PM (HKyCl)

362 Hell, I don't care that Trump has said liberal things. Most Republican candidates say conservative things and look what that gets us.
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at July 23, 2015 05:16 PM (BZAd3)
______________________

Yep, if the GOPe is going to burn the country down, we might as well have some fun along the way.

F*ck them and their Big Business cronies who are willing to destroy American lives and the American middle class just so that they can keep getting their "cheap" (i.e. taxpayer subsidized) labor. I'm done with all of them.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 23, 2015 05:20 PM (kGrdk)

363 I think Trump is healthy for the party right now. He is forcing the conversation on illegals to the front.

But I also think he will fade as rapidly as he rose.

Posted by: JackStraw

If Trump stops doing what he is doing, ie voicing what the voters want to hear he will fall.

There are quite a few of Obama's "Hope and Change" victims that are ready for something, anything different . They watched as their Mocha Messiah got absorbed into the D.C. Beltway Borg collective while simultaneously nuking the economy and the middle class . Nobody got Hope and Change that wasn't on Wall Street.

I dare to think that maybe, just maybe , Trump is in this to win it. Time will tell.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 05:20 PM (cNtqS)

364 Seems like an excellent way to get a debate without Jeb or Rubio myself.

Posted by: Alan at July 23, 2015 05:20 PM (uq4RW)

365 For those who blame Ross Perot for Willie's win, remember it was a dirty trick on "someone's" part to brand him as kook and crazy and caused him to sink in the polls.

But they couldn't do quite enough damage and so Pappy got knocked our anyway.

Maybe, just this once, it would good to let the electorate actually have a say in who gets the win.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 23, 2015 05:20 PM (x3GpS)

366 345
Meanwhile Slow Joe sits out the mayhem.

Posted by: Golfman

He's a crafty one, is our Joe. Either that, or he's at Betty Ford, drying out after a 3 week Elmer's bender.

Posted by: pep at July 23, 2015 05:20 PM (LAe3v)

367 Mynewhandle:

He has literally done what you suggest re that he had to donate to the HRC. Not as forcefully, but he's danced on that edge.

Posted by: prescient11 at July 23, 2015 05:20 PM (q5APL)

368 how does Trump do with married women?

he needs a Fiorina with foreign policy chops

Condi?

Jeanne Kirkpatrick RIP

Posted by: Feh at July 23, 2015 05:21 PM (65Z2p)

369 346 Being amongst kindred spirits, why don't we as a group draw up the platform/demands we want. Maybe Ace would publish the semi-finished product.

A movement has to start somewhere
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at July 23, 2015 05:16 PM (DlmoZ)

To oversimplify...

Reduce the size and scope of the Federal Government.

If it ain't in the US Constitution it does not become law.

Immigration.

And I'm waiting for one of the candidates to declare,if elected, they would make Trump the Czar of the National Bureaucracy Reduction. He could then go from agency to agency and say "You're fired."

Posted by: Golfman at July 23, 2015 05:21 PM (48QDY)

370 How can a candidate run to the left of Shrillary and not be Bernie Sanders? At that point you might as well hang the hammer and sickle flag and a big Che poster at your interviews.
Posted by: exdem13 at July 23, 2015 05:19 PM (ry4ab)

Bernie Sanders is an old school European-style Socialist.

He'd be a disaster as president.

O'Malley (and Warren) are old school American-style populist Progressives.

Who are also big time disasters.

Just slight political disagreements on their politics.

The media, being stupid, just uses "left" to mean "anything they like" and "right" to mean "anything they don't like" and that's the extent of their political scale.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 05:21 PM (AkOaV)

371 Yep, if the GOPe is going to burn the country down, we might as well have some fun along the way.

Bread and circuses doesn't work without the bread, this is true.

But it *also* does not work without the circuses.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 23, 2015 05:22 PM (kff5f)

372 I'll bet real money half the democrats would vote for Trump...

Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 23, 2015 05:22 PM (eOpVe)

373 265
Another chapter in the annals of "Just How F*cking Stupid Is John Kerry Anyway?":

Reportedly, one of those secret side deals in Obama/Kerry's big
Iranian deal provides that if Iran is suspected of developing nuclear
weapons and the other side wants inspections, the soil and other samples
to be tested from the site where the suspected weapons are being made
will be provided . . . by Iran.

----------------------
Where's that Hogan's Heroes triple facepalm image again?

Posted by: exdem13 at July 23, 2015 05:22 PM (ry4ab)

374 ***"Oh I know, hire a complete unknown and unproven individual.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantarian at July 23, 2015 05:18 PM (Z58Xa) "***

Oh, let's not pretend that what political consultants are doing is rocket science.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 23, 2015 05:22 PM (xSCb6)

375 He has literally done what you suggest re that he had to donate to the HRC. Not as forcefully, but he's danced on that edge.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 23, 2015 05:20 PM (q5APL)

Has he?

Good. I'm all for him exposing the corruption. Especially since he do it "from the inside".

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 05:22 PM (AkOaV)

376 For those that continually say, "Vote GOOe", we did. We gave them the Senate. Before they were even seated, they ran left.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 23, 2015 05:22 PM (X88sA)

377 Oh I know, hire a complete unknown and unproven individual.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantarian at July 23, 2015 05:18 PM (Z58Xa)

To do what? Run a successful Republican Presidential campaign? Sure, why the hell not? Are you even remotely suggesting that a candidate MUST have a "proven" Republican Presidential campaign manager to win?

Take a step back and think about that. The single greatest failure of the 21st century, arguably, has been the Republican National Party.

Seriously dude, I cannot imagine anyone thinking it's a good idea to keep rehiring the same losers. It should be an automatic disqualifier.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 23, 2015 05:22 PM (TOk1P)

378
"Well, I dont approve of that. But this is hardly a reason to bury the candidacy of such an excellent Governor. And it could lend his criticisms credibility, since it demonstrates that he is not a knee-jerk partisan. People will appreciate that."

Good point, my friend. By constantly badmouthing my own party for years, I demonstrated to the press that I was a straight shooter and they in turn provided me with good coverage in 2008.

Posted by: John McCain at July 23, 2015 05:23 PM (OD2ni)

379 I dont think Mr. Trump must be offered anything to do this. He is a narcissist who lives for self-promotion.

Most intelligent comment in this thread. **shivers**

Posted by: pep at July 23, 2015 05:23 PM (LAe3v)

380 I don't cave; even when I'm wrong just don't see it

Posted by: pahound at July 23, 2015 05:23 PM (JjECE)

381 Is begonia Mary Clog?

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 23, 2015 05:23 PM (kmtse)

382 "The only way I could build my magnificent, world class hotels, unfortunately, is to say the "right things" and grease the right palms. That's not right. That's not America. "

Since when has that not been America?
Like Rodney Dangerfield's speech in the business class in Back To School.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 23, 2015 05:23 PM (W5DcG)

383 He's a crafty one, is our Joe. Either that, or he's at Betty Ford, drying out after a 3 week Elmer's bender.

Apropos of nothing, how long do sunburned genitals take to heal?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 23, 2015 05:24 PM (8ZskC)

384 272
Trump could win in the same sense that I could have a fourway with Kate Upton, Kate Beckinsdale and Kate Middleton.

But hey, some unknown person spitballed the dumb idea of a debate
boycott, and even though it was immediately rejected we should all
pretend to be outraged on behalf of the thin-skinned pussbag Donald
Trump.
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We're not outraged or afraid of Trump getting shut out, Hollowpoint. That was the so-called smart crowd writing checks to RNC who tried to keep Trump out. Apparently they think you have a chance at a four-way, or at least a three-way.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 23, 2015 05:24 PM (ry4ab)

385 >>If Trump stops doing what he is doing, ie voicing what the voters want to hear he will fall.

He's said one thing. We have no idea what his current positions are on any other topic because he made one harsh remark at his announcement (which I bet very few here even watched) that caught fire and he didn't back down and he really hasn't addressed anything else since.

He did the same thing in 2012 with the birther issue but by then that issue was old news and he fizzled quickly. Maybe he has boned up on policy since then and has a full platform. I'll wait and see but I'm betting he hasn't.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2015 05:24 PM (OGm46)

386 Is begonia Mary Clog?

It's Catpiss. Don't cross her.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 23, 2015 05:24 PM (8ZskC)

387 ...are you for real, or just being funny?

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 05:06 PM (AkOaV)

Pretty sure "Begonia" is....a plant. Seriously lame pro-D(umb)OPe arguments after showing up in just the last couple of days.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 23, 2015 05:24 PM (GDulk)

388 Where's that Hogan's Heroes triple facepalm image again?
_____________________

Yeah, I just hope those mullahs remembered to leave a few bucks for Kerry on the nightstand after they f*cked him over so badly.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 23, 2015 05:25 PM (kGrdk)

389 My position has 'evolved' and I now despise Republicans only slightly less than Democrats. Anything or anyone who upsets either is fine by me.

Posted by: Weasel at July 23, 2015 05:25 PM (e3bId)

390 10/13/2011

NBC/WSJ Poll: Cain Now Leads GOP Pack

Fueled by Tea Party supporters, conservatives and high-interest GOP primary voters, former Godfather's Pizza CEO Herman Cain now leads the race for the Republican presidential nomination, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

Posted by: Captain Oblivious at July 23, 2015 05:25 PM (hiT/m)

391 who the fuck is catpiss?

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 23, 2015 05:25 PM (kmtse)

392 All begonias are average joe.

Posted by: dantesed at July 23, 2015 05:25 PM (88xKn)

393 The real debt could be $210 trillion.

http://tinyurl.com/pxaes2z

Somebody has to fix this. I don't think it's even remotely fixable, but...

Hillary won't. Jeb won't. Any of the rest of the field who isn't talking about it won't.

Who then?

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at July 23, 2015 05:26 PM (BZAd3)

394 He's a crafty one, is our Joe. Either that, or he's at Betty Ford, drying out after a 3 week Elmer's bender.
Posted by: pep at July 23, 2015 05:20 PM (LAe3v)

He's coming - he will stroll among the carcasses.

Posted by: Golfman at July 23, 2015 05:26 PM (48QDY)

395 still want an adult in charge; trump ain't it...

Posted by: pahound at July 23, 2015 05:19 PM (JjECE)

This is 21st century America. With Brucella Jenner, Michael Brown, Dred Justice Roberts, and Hippity Hop music. We don't do adult anymore.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 23, 2015 05:27 PM (TOk1P)

396 I find Donald entertaining; I like Christie- I'm from jersey....doesn't "play in Peoria"

Posted by: pahound at July 23, 2015 05:27 PM (JjECE)

397 Seriously, who else are they going to choose. The last winning campaigner was Rove and there is nothing but hate here for him.

I keep hearing the GOP holds more governorships and state rep seats than ever. Maybe someone with a record of winning could get promoted?

Posted by: Methos at July 23, 2015 05:27 PM (ZbV+0)

398 391 who the fuck is catpiss?
Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 23, 2015 05:25 PM (kmtse)

A poster called 'curious' years ago. At some point (s)he ran afoul of the Horde and said some uncharitable things about another poster.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 23, 2015 05:27 PM (shLnc)

399 I have to say that I think that ace's take here is very mature. It's of a piece with his "hey why don't we tell the truth and see how that goes."

Trump and his eff you money refuse to be mau maued. By ANYBODY.

So they try to mau mau him.

Smart.

Like ace says, take him on and beat him, don't try to play the shame game and all that crap. Taking on McCain - which is what he did (and by the way, McCain started it, and anyone who didn't defend the base from McCain, well, why didn't you?) - was supposed to be the end of his campaign.

It has become in defiance of all the wishcasters, stronger.

So, yeah, the guy is a clown. If you can't beat a clown, then how the hell are you going to beat Bernie Sanders, much less Hillary.

Posted by: blaster at July 23, 2015 05:27 PM (2Ocf1)

400 "Apropos of nothing, how long do sunburned genitals take to heal?"

Fell asleep on the lounge after a little dip. Charred plums. Ouch.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at July 23, 2015 05:27 PM (LA7Cm)

401 Seriously dude, I cannot imagine anyone thinking it's a good idea to keep rehiring the same losers. It should be an automatic disqualifier.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 23, 2015 05:22 PM (TOk1P)

And that's the thing.

These consultants are LOSERS who have lost every major election they've worked on, but made themselves VERY wealthy off huge ad buys.

While losing.

Every time.

So I'm closer to the "bring them up on charges of fraud" camp then "hire them".

They don't like conservatives, they don't care if their candidate wins or loses since they get paid off ad buys and nothing else, and they're in it to become fabulously wealthy. And they all do become fabulously wealthy.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 05:27 PM (AkOaV)

402 trump will implode, by his own hand...because he's trump. hell, enjoy the show-kinda like fireworks; not like anybody actually likes them...
Posted by: pahound at July 23, 2015 05:15 PM (JjECE)

--------------------------------------------

I listened to him today. He sounded even and rational. If anyone's imploding it's the other candidates trying to deal with Trump, I.E. Rick Perry. Talk about imploding.

Posted by: Soona at July 23, 2015 05:27 PM (P25Hh)

403 Where's that Hogan's Heroes triple facepalm image again?

Complete with misspelling.

http://tinyurl.com/qctjj5w

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 23, 2015 05:27 PM (W5DcG)

404 The single greatest failure of the 21st century, arguably, has been the Republican National Party.

Their numbers tell them exactly the opposite.

Posted by: DaveA at July 23, 2015 05:27 PM (DL2i+)

405 Posted by: Captain Oblivious at July 23, 2015 05:25 PM (hiT/m)

Yeah, and?

I don't hear very many here (and maybe not any, but I'm not going through all the comments to verify that) saying that Trump will, or even *should* win. (Burn, Scatter, Salt notwithstanding)

What we are saying is that a) this is f*cking hilarious that the GOPe is getting it's clocked clean by a carnival barker and b) if they don't figure it out, then he deserves to win.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Not dead yet at July 23, 2015 05:27 PM (kff5f)

406 ***"Seriously dude, I cannot imagine anyone thinking it's a good idea to
keep rehiring the same losers. It should be an automatic disqualifier."***

Let's not be so hasty.

Posted by: Jamie Gorelick at July 23, 2015 05:27 PM (xSCb6)

407
Rove has made very clear he does not like Conservatives and is a member of the GOPe.
Not to mention his results in the last election were lousy. He has lost what little mojo he had.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 23, 2015 05:28 PM (8marX)

408 Fueled by Tea Party supporters, conservatives and high-interest GOP primary voters, former Godfather's Pizza CEO Herman Cain now leads the race for the Republican presidential nomination, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.
Posted by: Captain Oblivious at July 23, 2015 05:25 PM (hiT/m)

Everybody led the polls in 2011 and 2012, desperate as we were to avoid Mitt.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 23, 2015 05:28 PM (shLnc)

409 Oh, I and really liked Mark Steyn's take on this, too.

Posted by: blaster at July 23, 2015 05:29 PM (2Ocf1)

410 who the fuck is catpiss?
Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 23, 2015 05:25 PM (kmtse)

She used to come here and spew crazy conspiracy theories and when she got attacked for them, she'd transition to threats against other commenters. She used a series of nics with no caps but the style was always dead-on identifiable. She finally disappeared after a long run.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 23, 2015 05:29 PM (8ZskC)

411 If Trump wins the WH, the US will have a former supermodel as First Lady. Definitely an improvement over Mooch.

Posted by: jmel at July 23, 2015 05:29 PM (cfFqn)

412 Who then?
Posted by: Semper In Stercus at July 23, 2015 05:26 PM (BZAd3)

Probably Math.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 05:29 PM (AkOaV)

413 303
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 23, 2015 05:04 PM (8Zs

That's not a pathological obsession. That woman became his wife.
------------------
The statement is honest, charming even, but it wins no love with the conservative base this year.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 23, 2015 05:29 PM (ry4ab)

414 ***"This is 21st century America. With Brucella Jenner, Michael Brown, Dred
Justice Roberts, and Hippity Hop music. We don't do adult anymore."***

You forgot Barack Obama

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 23, 2015 05:29 PM (xSCb6)

415 P A good part of Trump's "thunder" comes from the MSM obsessively covering him while they ignore the other R candidates. They wouldn't mind Trump in if it meant a D would win.

And yes, I agree with some of the things he has said.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 23, 2015 05:29 PM (OSs/l)

416 This is the very first thing you see on the Mexichurian candidates website.
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The problem I have with this is not the sentiment itself.
It's that it's on his website --- and "the very first thing."
Why?
Why are we subjected to highly personal feeeeelings?

Yeah, I'll send in a resume for a job and start it off with a discussion of the flutter in my heart when Mr. DeVille asked me if he could borrow my table's catsup because his table didn't have any.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 23, 2015 05:29 PM (cN9Sk)

417 >>Everybody led the polls in 2011 and 2012, desperate as we were to avoid Mitt.

And now everyone seems enthralled by a guy who called Romney's illegal plan to mean. Consistent.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2015 05:30 PM (OGm46)

418 The single greatest failure of the 21st century, arguably, has been the Republican National Party.

Their numbers tell them exactly the opposite.

Posted by: DaveA at July 23, 2015 05:27 PM (DL2i+)

Numbers lie, infidel.

Posted by: Iran Nuclear Program, Isis, and Obamacare at July 23, 2015 05:30 PM (TOk1P)

419 Most election managers get hired because they know who the donors are and how to get to them. And are maybe owed favors.

That's how they work. That's how they keep getting rehired even when they lose.

They know all the players and have the phone numbers.

With Trump, he's paying his own way. Even Romney didn't pay his own way all that much. Only at first. (I think. It's hard to know because MFM)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 23, 2015 05:30 PM (x3GpS)

420 400 sunburned underballs? Damn!

Posted by: Weasel at July 23, 2015 05:30 PM (e3bId)

421 379 I dont think Mr. Trump must be offered anything to do this. He is a narcissist who lives for self-promotion.

Yeah, he's totally different from most politicians.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 23, 2015 05:31 PM (oKE6c)

422 For what it's worth, Palin is a friend of Trump.

Posted by: Stir it up at July 23, 2015 05:31 PM (es0c0)

423 He's said one thing. We have no idea what his current positions are on any other topic because he made one harsh remark at his announcement (which I bet very few here even watched) that caught fire and he didn't back down and he really hasn't addressed anything else since.

He did the same thing in 2012 with the birther issue but by then that issue was old news and he fizzled quickly. Maybe he has boned up on policy since then and has a full platform. I'll wait and see but I'm betting he hasn't.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2015 05:24 PM (OGm46)

Yep, I watched the entire thing.

It was the only political speech I think I've ever watched where I was literally laughing out loud at parts.

The "mexican rapist" part wasn't even something that really stood out to me.

I've gotten a kick out of Trump for a long time. in the same way I get a kick out of, say, Tony Soprano.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 05:31 PM (AkOaV)

424 Are you even remotely suggesting that a candidate MUST have a "proven" Republican Presidential campaign manager to win?

0 for 2.

Great record they got there.

Also , begonia is not a troll . He /she was hard-charging Mittbot during the election.

I guess some people just enjoy running their head into the wall over and over .

"Next time , it will be different."

Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 05:32 PM (cNtqS)

425 309
I'm still voting for Bill the Cat.

Why stop at half measures, vote for Cthulhu, the definite greater of two evils! (Bumper stickers available from Chaosium, Inc, totally whoring out the Lovecraft license for fun and profit over 30 years!)

But yeah, I remember the t-shirts saying "Don't blame me, I voted for Bill and Opus!" I should have voted Bloom Party instead of the idiot in the tank...

Posted by: exdem13 at July 23, 2015 05:32 PM (ry4ab)

426 Hey Ace,

If you're around, you've got to put Perry's latest speech about TRUMPISM11111!!!!!11!!1!!!

up on the HQ.

It's everything that's lame about the GOP's response to Trump.

From a guy that should've been able to co-op Trump immigration stance and run like hell with it.

But....Noop.

Seriously, the funny factor is just too high.

It's sadly ridiculous.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 23, 2015 05:32 PM (KUa85)

427 If it ain't in the US Constitution it does not become law.

If it can't be demonstrated to be in the Constitution, it ceases to be law.

Which is to say, all current laws get a one year sunset provision overriding their current duration (unless shorter), and folks can make a case for the ones they want to keep.

Posted by: Methos at July 23, 2015 05:33 PM (ZbV+0)

428 conspiracy?

Posted by: pahound at July 23, 2015 05:33 PM (JjECE)

429 And now everyone seems enthralled by a guy who called Romney's illegal plan to mean. Consistent.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2015 05:30 PM (OGm46)

As opposed to whom?

They've all changed positions, lied, followed polls and focus groups.

Like I said the other day... just like all trolls are Average Joe, all pols are Donald Trump.

He's just honest about it.

The rest follow focus groups and polls to decide on what they will say any given day. But they're all egotistical meglomaniacs with no real ideological undercurrent to their beliefs.

Just "whats best for me" on any given day.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 05:34 PM (AkOaV)

430 D(umb) O(ld) P(arty) e(stablishment)

DOPe.

Come on Horde, we can totally make that the new Pubbie acronym.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 23, 2015 05:34 PM (GDulk)

431 we'll work on that...

Posted by: pahound at July 23, 2015 05:34 PM (JjECE)

432 ***"So, yeah, the guy is a clown. If you can't beat a clown, then how the
hell are you going to beat Bernie Sanders, much less Hillary."***

Exactly. Ace made the same point. And a few Morons seem to keep missing this. Over and over and over.

If the candidates from your preferred party can't beat this freakshow, your party sucks. He should be a slam dunk, but what have your preferred candidates done? Danced like little monkeys to the tune of their Democrat organ grinders.

Pathetic. The lot of them.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 23, 2015 05:34 PM (xSCb6)

433 I want to have Trump in the debate. I think he will put his foot in his mouth more than once so that he will be dismissed. But I also want his presence to force the others to speak up on immigration and their specific position.

Posted by: Cruzinator at July 23, 2015 05:34 PM (N4pek)

434 >>>>Scankles will NOT get the nom. I linked to a site on the morning thread
that said at least one Democrat is already talking give her the boot.
.
.
.I agree. We are 14 months out from the election and she is already tanking in the swing State polls against a very crowded GOP ticket. Just wait until she is forced to actually open her mouth and talk in a debate or two. The real Hitlery will come out then. Shrill, overbearing, and completely unlikeable.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 23, 2015 05:35 PM (iONHu)

435 She used to come here and spew crazy

She either had mental health issues or was a bot. We never got enough Turing testing done before the ettes deservedly ran her off.

Posted by: DaveA at July 23, 2015 05:35 PM (DL2i+)

436 Bumper stickers available from Chaosium, Inc, totally whoring out the Lovecraft license for fun and profit over 30 years!

I died of malnutrition because I chose stamps over food.

Posted by: HP Lovecraft at July 23, 2015 05:35 PM (j2FM9)

437 Which is to say, all current laws get a one year sunset provision overriding their current duration (unless shorter), and folks can make a case for the ones they want to keep.
Posted by: Methos at July 23, 2015 05:33 PM (ZbV+0)

Then SCOTUS calls everything a tax, and nothing is challengeable on the grounds of unconstitutionality again.

Remember, SCOTUS gave us Wickard v Filburn.

Not Congress.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 05:35 PM (AkOaV)

438 "Let me just note that if the other candidates cannot beat Trump, given his prior support of liberal candidates and causes, and still refuse to treat the immigration issue as anything more than lie-to-the-base-and-stay-true-to-the-US-Chamber,"

I'm telling you they won't, or cannot. It's an existential impossibility. This is perhaps Trump's greatest hope -- the total ignorance, arrogance and intransigence of the GOP.

I would offer this exception: Cruz. He is the smartest and savviest of the bunch.

Posted by: rrpjr at July 23, 2015 05:35 PM (s/yC1)

439 That's the Ace whose lifestyle I aspire to!

Posted by: herb borkland at July 23, 2015 05:35 PM (AZ4sn)

440 I'm okay with Trump. He's gonna force the squishes to move to one side of the line or the other. They don't want to do that. They wanna have their cake and eat it too.

Fuck that bullshit. I don't care if Trump calls every member of my family a [redacted] whore. It's time for the discussion he's bringing. I know it makes the squishes uncomfortable. Massive American unemployment makes me uncomfortable. Terrorists crossing an unsecured border makes me uncomfortable. Unvaccinated children makes me uncomfortable. A million Muslims a year seeking refuge in this country makes me uncomfortable. Seeing our country become a one party system makes me uncomfortable.

I'm positive that Jebba da Bush would do nothing to allay my fears. So I'm willing to roll the dice. Suckers of cock deserve this.

Posted by: se pa moron at July 23, 2015 05:35 PM (xQX/f)

441 O/T

OK a true moron goes to London.

http://tinyurl.com/one8ro9

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 23, 2015 05:36 PM (0FSuD)

442 Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 05:32 PM (cNtqS)

So, an establishment propagandist? Who only shows up at election time? Like I said, a plant. Very well named, have to give shim props for a little sense of humor.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 23, 2015 05:36 PM (GDulk)

443 Misanthropic Humantarian: "Lee Atwater is dead.
Regan's guys are dead.

Oh I know, hire a complete unknown and unproven individual."

When a contractor screws up my neighbor's house, I don't go over and ask for their business card. I get other references or scan the Yellow Pages. I want to avoid known failure however expert they are at it.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 23, 2015 05:36 PM (1CroS)

444 Trump hasn't beaten anyone. He has poll numbers less than 20%.

Posted by: Cruzinator at July 23, 2015 05:36 PM (N4pek)

445 Yay Ace!

Posted by: Phil at July 23, 2015 05:36 PM (DjpfO)

446 It doesn't matter what feminists say, the populace time and time again votes for real men who stand for something, not cuck-cuckers.

Cuck suckers = men in the cuckold class so impotent that not only would they let their wife cheat on them in their marital bed, they would wash and fold the sheets after.

See: the entire GOP elite class

Posted by: LizLem at July 23, 2015 05:37 PM (hvf9s)

447 Have you heard Bernie Sanders from his "Folk" album?

No,seriously, it is, well, remarkable, that ANY politician could have such a thing memorialized and still be a politician. Much less be #2 with a bullet for President.

Look it up on youtube. This Land is Your Land is, well, words cannot describe.

Posted by: blaster at July 23, 2015 05:37 PM (2Ocf1)

448 ***"And now everyone seems enthralled by a guy who called Romney's illegal plan to mean. Consistent.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2015 05:30 PM (OGm46) "***

Yeah, Romney was a real paragon of consistency.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 23, 2015 05:38 PM (xSCb6)

449 The single greatest failure of the 21st century, arguably, has been the Republican National Party.

Their numbers tell them exactly the opposite.

The GOP is a very successful Ponzi scheme.

It's easy to get elected when you have no intention of doing anything that your hired liars said that you would.

Congress is an elite club that maintains the Wall Street donor money habit by any means necessary.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 05:38 PM (cNtqS)

450 horde, nood.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 23, 2015 05:38 PM (AkOaV)

451 alright

Posted by: pahound at July 23, 2015 05:38 PM (JjECE)

452 Glue is the glue that holds families together.

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 23, 2015 05:39 PM (l2Gqi)

453 Sunshine limits on every law.

All laws to be read before voting

All pacs and corporate donors to be available to the public for all candidates once they donate more than a defined amount they have to be revealed.

Economic impact statements on all laws.

Scientific statements and Economic impact statements on all EPA regulations.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 23, 2015 05:39 PM (x3GpS)

454 To clarify: what they stand for might be crap, aka Obama. But they need that image that you will do something and stand for something to get them to vote for you in the ballot box.

Posted by: LizLem at July 23, 2015 05:39 PM (hvf9s)

455 I would offer this exception: Cruz. He is the smartest and savviest of the bunch.

Ben Carson is smarter. He's not a lawyer, he has useful knowledge.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 23, 2015 05:39 PM (j2FM9)

456 I want to have Trump in the debate. I think he will put his foot in his mouth more than once so that he will be dismissed. But I also want his presence to force the others to speak up on immigration and their specific position.
Posted by: Cruzinator at July 23, 2015 05:34 PM (N4pek)

--------------------------------------------

They better speak out loud and clear and soon, because that boat is pulling away from the dock. And the only one on it is Trump right now.

Posted by: Soona at July 23, 2015 05:39 PM (P25Hh)

457 this may go terribly Ashley Madison; I beg forgiveness

Posted by: pahound at July 23, 2015 05:40 PM (JjECE)

458 >>They've all changed positions, lied, followed polls and focus groups.

Sure they have to some degree. Often based on where they were governing previously. But around here it used to be a heresy to ever change a position on anything.

But Trump has never governed previously and he has been all over the map on all issues. Do you really think he gave a shit about illegals when he was using them to build his buildings?

I find Trump useful right now because he is forcing the spotlight on an issue I care about and dragging the rest further right. He is doing something that pols on our side have been afraid or focus grouped out of saying. Hopefully, they will learn.

But I don't think he is the second coming or some kind of conservative hero.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2015 05:40 PM (OGm46)

459 326
319 Where did the space lizard thing come from? I've been seeing that meme everywhere the last 2/3 days.

Posted by: eleven

It's a real conspiracy-theorist thing, I think.

Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 23, 2015 05:11 PM (/Ho8c)

I don't know how real it is.

Penn Teller (smug grin over ) did an episode on conspiracy theories and highlighted the lizard people types.

They seemed like paranoid schizophrenics off their meds. I think
it's really just 2 or 3 people with a logo and a computer who make up
the real believers in that ... strange theory

The "reptiloid" lizard men from space/hollow Earth/alternate dimension (your choice) who have infiltrated the top levels of our society and are manipulating it for their own twisted benefit are a staple belief of the tinfoil hat crowd, and helps keep "Coast to Coast AM" ad rates high. It's sort of like the older Illumminati cabal but with a dose of "V" and "They Live" tossed in for the UFO age. The conspiracy has enough public recognition to be used in a Weird Al video! Penn and Teller's episode of "BS" gave the conspiracy its proper due, though.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 23, 2015 05:40 PM (ry4ab)

460
If Donald Trump wins the GOP nomination, the country is officially over.
And there's no way in fucking hell I'll ever vote for him.

Posted by: DRayRaven at July 23, 2015 05:40 PM (q4f8l)

461 Trump's secret weapon is that he's constantly putting his foot in his mouth. It's his version of Clinton Scandal-Fatigue. Nobody's surprised by it.

Posted by: irright at July 23, 2015 05:41 PM (DtNNC)

462 I fully favor a TOTAL boycott of any debate with Trump. The lowest common denominator will win. He can out shout the others.

It is a no win deal. Don't give him a platform

Posted by: Nip Sip at July 23, 2015 05:41 PM (0FSuD)

463 this post relates to Ace's earlier ones, on masculinity

Perot was a squirrely, squiggy sounding tiny man. Beta.

Trump? Alpha male.

Reagan had the Hollywood visibility. People knew him.

Trump has the Trump visibility. People know him.

Persona.
Voice.
Hair style!
Suits! Ties!

Even Romney did not act Alpha.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 23, 2015 05:42 PM (qCMvj)

464 Ben Carson is smarter. He's not a lawyer, he has useful knowledge.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 23, 2015 05:39 PM (j2FM9)

I like what you're saying, but I think it's inverted. Carson may be smarter but his knowledge is not useful to this process. Cruz was born for this process; his lawyer intellect is the jungle skill needed for this jungle.

Posted by: rrpjr at July 23, 2015 05:42 PM (s/yC1)

465 that was never gonna happen

Posted by: pahound at July 23, 2015 05:42 PM (JjECE)

466 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 23, 2015 05:42 PM (qCMvj)

Which is a lot of the problem. R candidates act apologetic for being R candidates. Who wants to vote for that?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 23, 2015 05:43 PM (GDulk)

467 mynewhandle: "So I'm closer to the 'bring them up on charges of fraud' camp then 'hire them'."

I like the way you think.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 23, 2015 05:44 PM (1CroS)

468 How can you not want Trump in the debate? He clearly represents a significant voice in the country, and it will be hugely informative to see how the others handle him.

Posted by: rrpjr at July 23, 2015 05:44 PM (s/yC1)

469 @449

What was the first thing the GOP did with their historic unprecidented victory that swept them to control of both houses of congress by a margin they haven't seen in 80 years?

They increased the amount Wall Street can donate to political campaigns and they have proceeded downhill at a greater pace.

The GOP must die and hopefully Trump is that destroyer.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 23, 2015 05:44 PM (PaAcR)

470

new post btw

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 23, 2015 05:44 PM (qCMvj)

471 >>Yeah, Romney was a real paragon of consistency.

Instead of your usual snark, how about you list all the issue he wasn't consistent on.

Mind you, the flip flopper label was applied by the gay mafia who were mad at Romney for saying he would support gay rights, equality in the workplace, etc., but drew the line at gay marriage so don't bother with that one.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2015 05:45 PM (OGm46)

472 I like what you're saying, but I think it's inverted. Carson may be smarter but his knowledge is not useful to this process. Cruz was born for this process; his lawyer intellect is the jungle skill needed for this jungle.
Posted by: rrpjr at July 23, 2015 05:42 PM (s/yC1)

--------------------------------------

Then he better grab a vine soon and start swinging or he's going to be just another morsel of panther food.

Posted by: Soona at July 23, 2015 05:45 PM (P25Hh)

473 OT: But relevant to the Grilling/Manliness thread earlier.

This had the potential to be the manliest steak grilling evah!:

http://www.sciencealert.com/watch-scientists-cook-the-perfect-steak-with-lava

However, to be the Manliest Steak Grilling Evah this needs

1) Real frikkin' lava from a real fikkin' volcano.

Preferably while the volcano is erupting.

2) What's with all the protective clothing?

The proper gear for the MSGE would be a swimsuit, flip-flops and a beer in one hand.

3) These guys must be pure NE Pajama Boyz-

The steaks are very well done.

*sad trombone*

No steak may qualify for the MSGE if it's cooked to any greater degree than medium rare.

To sum up- Near greatness unachieved.

A rare miss for Science.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 23, 2015 05:45 PM (KUa85)

474 Yeah, Romney was a real paragon of consistency.

Doesn't matter.

We voted for him.

He. Lost.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 05:46 PM (cNtqS)

475 I love you for this post

The rest of them couldn't negotiate their way out of a paper bag

Posted by: ThunderB at July 23, 2015 05:46 PM (zOTsN)

476 "The only way I could build my magnificent, world class hotels,
unfortunately, is to say the "right things" and grease the right palms.
That's not right. That's not America.

So yes, I had to donate money to the corrupt Clinton machine to get
my permits approved for the most excellent hotels and properties in the
world. Do I wish that wasn't the case? Yes. Do I want to change that?
Yes. THAT, folks, is why I'm running for president."

Turns the attacks around on Trump, and calls Clinton corrupt.

------------
Someone had better call the Clintons on their corruption in the political venue. The Clinton Foundation by rights should be the biggest political money scandal since the Teapot Dome, and Shrillary's pay-to-play attitude is beyond mercenary. But let the LSM say again the GOP is the party of morally and financially corrupt wealthy people.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 23, 2015 05:47 PM (ry4ab)

477 The GOP must die and hopefully Trump is that destroyer.

Amen.

Posted by: some random meathead at July 23, 2015 05:47 PM (cNtqS)

478 I think the point which Trump sees and most people are missing is that he can actually win the presidency. The LIVs know who he is and his likeability numbers are sky high compared to Hillary! the Harkonnen. Sure he is a huckster - but he is one who sells something the LIVs want. Trump has a real shot at upsetting the GOPe applecart in the primaries; exactly who the fcuk in the voting public wants Jeb! to be the nominee? Jeb! has all the charisma of road kill.

Posted by: An Observation at July 23, 2015 05:50 PM (VUiYn)

479 I can easily see the Cali AG raiding their offices on some spurious bullshit and trying to embargo them from releasing any more videos.

The one thing about leftists is they do not play around.

A thing or two can be learned here.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 23, 2015 05:51 PM (PaAcR)

480 Trump is never going to be president...but think of the executive orders, (considering recent precedent), the cabinet: John Bolton sec of state, Guiliani A.G., finally somebody that walks toward a cnn interview, instead of the other direction.

Posted by: bopiddy at July 23, 2015 05:51 PM (9HJf4)

481 403
Where's that Hogan's Heroes triple facepalm image again?

Complete with misspelling.

http://tinyurl.com/qctjj5w
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Thanks man. Ace should use it every time the Iran deal comes up.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 23, 2015 05:55 PM (ry4ab)

482 Only if you can stay awake while he's talking. The man has no charisma.

Posted by: wrg500 at July 23, 2015 04:53 PM (sWgE+)

Neither did Coolidge, but he had huge support nationwide.

Posted by: LIV is the place 2B at July 23, 2015 05:57 PM (kjqdN)

483 Well, he told Dana Loesch he was ruling out a third party run, so apparently if you ask him a question he'll answer it and lie.

Posted by: The Men of '98 at July 23, 2015 06:06 PM (6SLAZ)

484 432
***"So, yeah, the guy is a clown. If you can't beat a clown, then how the

hell are you going to beat Bernie Sanders, much less Hillary."***

Exactly. Ace made the same point. And a few Morons seem to keep missing this. Over and over and over.

----------------
This is a practical reason to support Trump instead of make him go away that has nothing to do with voting for him. Trump is the cluebat for the GOP. If the GOP does not try hard enough Trump will be the cluebat for the Democrats.

Look, people, if Trump is so bad, what is your GOP-approved guy doing right? Trump is 100% seriously running for the nomination! He says things voters want to hear. He takes positions voters want to see taken. He has enough appeal to cross the usual lines and bring in broad support. He is the guy to beat, but beat fairly, in the primary process. If the governors and senators don't get off their asses soon and run on statements the voters want to hear, Trump WILL be the guy getting applauded at the National Convention.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 23, 2015 06:09 PM (ry4ab)

485 If Scott Walker can clean his clock in the debates I wonder if Scott can begin to restore the Republican brand. He is a conservative and he's as smart as Trump with the edge of actually running a State and accomplishing a lot in a short time. Time will tell. Cruz is the only other one who isn't pissing me off completely. The rest are just a waste of money.

Posted by: DailyDish at July 23, 2015 06:10 PM (y/3Fq)

486 Again pointing out the stupidity of relying on NYT's unnamed sources, which even so ONLY claim some unnamed donors "mused" about the boycott idea. What's that? Talking over a beer? Or do you fancy-boys only muse over chai tea?

Yet, you not only accept the story, you misinterpret it as representative of "GOP donors," and proceed to attack the straw man.

Stupid is as stupid does, Forrest.

Posted by: Adjoran at July 23, 2015 06:21 PM (QIQ6j)

487 TRUMP/WEST 2016!
".44 MAG "

"HILLARY, DO YOU FEEL LUCKY?"

Posted by: Dirty Harry at July 23, 2015 06:27 PM (ln4QS)

488 WALKER/WEST 2016!

Posted by: Dirty Harry at July 23, 2015 06:28 PM (ln4QS)

489 Walker during VP debate:

"Shut up. I'll ask the questions around here."

Posted by: Dirty Harry at July 23, 2015 06:30 PM (ln4QS)

490 Whoops! West during VP debate

Posted by: Dirty Harry at July 23, 2015 06:31 PM (ln4QS)

491 20
Paolo should move to DC.

Posted by: Feh
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Paolo IS DC.

Posted by: JohnMc at July 23, 2015 07:15 PM (RHBWt)

492 I knew you'd come around to Trump, Ace. I know you're not there yet, but you'll get there

Trump knows how to win people to his side, even grudgingly.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at July 23, 2015 07:16 PM (xetep)

493 He is a clown but he is a useful clown for now.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2015 04:20 PM (OGm46)

I truly don't get the "clown" comments. What is "clownish" about what Trump's doing?

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at July 23, 2015 07:17 PM (xetep)

494 Repubs wanting Trump out of debates are afraid of him. Changing the rules are the first action of a coward. Can't compete, change the rules. Debate him and win if you think you and your policies and candidates are so good. Kick him out then admit you're afraid of him. I am not a Trump supporter but I admire what he is doing in bringing the "already settled" stuff up. Nothing is ever settled. They just want to move on from what the public wants to talk about.

Posted by: Lester at July 23, 2015 07:46 PM (2UPXV)

495 Yeah, sure, I'll vote for Trump, for the shits and giggles, and because the GOPe is going to make sure I don't count anyway. Nothing to lose, from where I stand.

Posted by: That Guy at July 23, 2015 08:34 PM (UKhBB)

496 Ann Coulter vs Illegal Vargas on Megan Kelly. This should be good.

Kelly just showed that Trump and Telemundo tidbit. Sweet. Next up Coulter and Vargas.

Posted by: Joanne at July 23, 2015 09:08 PM (indTK)

497 Stupid is as stupid does, Forrest.

Posted by: Adjoran

The irony, it burnnssss ussss.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 23, 2015 09:29 PM (rwI+c)

498 Where did the space lizard thing come from? I've been seeing that meme everywhere the last 2/3 days.

Posted by: eleven

It's a real conspiracy-theorist thing, I think.

Posted by: Moderate Salami

But it must be true! I read it on the internet!!!!

http://www.metafilter.com/113034/Brief-Overview-of-our-Reptilian-Overlords

Posted by: mark at July 23, 2015 09:50 PM (1Qsuq)

499 Vote for the Dems, you get what the Dems want.

Vote for the GOPe, you get what the Dems want. Just... for different reasons.

If I'm getting basically the same results either way, what does it matter to me which particular group of zillionaire donors gets more money from the trough?

As things stand right now, that's what you're ultimately voting for. Oh, all those powerful interest groups will get their cut; the GOP/Dem dichotomy is all about which group of big-money donors gets a little bit more money than the other group.

Fuck that. Trump, Son of SMOD, 2016.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler, Trumpketeer at July 23, 2015 11:40 PM (wKc1L)

500 Think Scott Walker's the guy to turn things around? Well, guess what? When the Trump vs. McCain flap occurred last weekend, Walker bent the knee to McCain.

Walker is a great governor, but he's shown on more than one occasion that he's a GOPe man when it comes to the national stage. It all ultimately began when he went to Iowa a couple of months ago and made a speech amounting to, "Yes, sir, I loves me some corn socialism!".

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler, Trumpketeer at July 24, 2015 12:07 AM (wKc1L)

501 Walker is a great politician. Which means he positions himself so that voters and donors see what they want to see.

Posted by: theTruth at July 24, 2015 06:54 AM (Bbcs8)

502 Trump can win. Everyone knows him from his TV shows just as Reagan was known from his movies. Opinions are already formed and won't be changed. He can't be Goldwatered.

Posted by: theTruth at July 24, 2015 07:00 AM (rnH8X)

503 Berke Breathed may be a leftie, but he certainly didn't go for street mimes.

He had Opus the penguin go around bashing them with a big stick of delicatessen meat.

The newspapers dubbed him "The Olive Loaf Vigilante".

Heh

Posted by: Noam Sayen at July 24, 2015 08:10 PM (FkgZk)

504 I'm voting ABH (anybody but Hillary) and ABB (anybody but Bernie). If that is Trump, so be it.

Posted by: Kathy Kinsley at July 24, 2015 08:12 PM (P1Mfe)

505 If you don't think Trump can win I've got two words for you:

Governor Ventura.

Posted by: John Stephens at July 24, 2015 08:31 PM (yt261)

506 Have you been reading my mind again?

Posted by: Sardondi at July 24, 2015 11:48 PM (bUwo0)

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