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Open Thread
George Clausen, "In the Small Hours" (1911)
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 20, 2015 09:44 AM (0O7c5)
Posted by: johnd01 at July 20, 2015 09:44 AM (ukNFU)
Cool......
Posted by: FBI Director Comey at July 20, 2015 09:44 AM (2mJMN)
Posted by: Le Dauphin Jeb! at July 20, 2015 09:46 AM (D5XRv)
Posted by: Luap Nor at July 20, 2015 09:48 AM (HstNY)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 20, 2015 09:44 AM (0O7c5)
Tell us what you really think.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 20, 2015 09:48 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: Daybrother at July 20, 2015 09:48 AM (kOBIH)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 09:48 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 20, 2015 09:48 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 09:49 AM (0dcbp)
Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 20, 2015 09:50 AM (GpgJl)
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 09:51 AM (DkJ4E)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at July 20, 2015 09:51 AM (jsWA8)
Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2015 09:52 AM (KUa85)
It was McCain that called us crazies and Trump was defending his supporters and ultimately the people who aren't quite onboard with the invasion of the country for the benifit of the Democratic Party and the schemes of the oligarchy.
Hey dumbass what arnt you and ladyboy Graham attacking the SCOAMF over the VA?
POSs both of them.
Posted by: Kreplach at July 20, 2015 09:52 AM (97FRK)
WTF?
Posted by: Daybrother at July 20, 2015 09:52 AM (kOBIH)
It's now operating 24/7 to fill demand after advertising here at the HQ
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 09:52 AM (DkJ4E)
Ima gonna use my imagination: Glops of paint that look like the artist is trying to use the stuff he bought from the store, but don't really look at all like anything found in nature.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 09:53 AM (TOk1P)
In the wee small hours of the morning
While the whole wide world is fast asleep
You lie awake and think about the girl
And never, ever think of counting sheep
Sing it, rdbrewer!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 20, 2015 09:54 AM (iQIUe)
WTF?
Posted by: Daybrother at July 20, 2015 09:52 AM (kOBIH)
This is actually pretty common. SWAT needed something to do, serving notices and snagging fugitives is sometimes dicey, so SWAT gets the job when it looks like something slightly dangerous for the Sheriff's deputy.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 09:55 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Abe Vigoda at July 20, 2015 09:56 AM (NjiZL)
Posted by: BurtTC
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You're not missing anything. It's just a realistic portrait of a bunch of naked women with perfect boobies.
Posted by: Daybrother at July 20, 2015 09:56 AM (kOBIH)
I'm going to repost this b/c I think it deserves more attention. This is not a one off. These people are undoubtedly a product of liberal education.
http://goo.gl/wnyDZW
All the dumbass adults stand there and tape it and some how it got on the internet, too. That poor little girl.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 20, 2015 09:57 AM (iQIUe)
HAH!
Posted by: Abe Vigoda at July 20, 2015 09:56 AM (NjiZL)
You buy me out? I buy you out! Oh wait...
Posted by: Zombie Moe Green at July 20, 2015 09:57 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 09:57 AM (sWgE+)
======================
thread winner
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 09:57 AM (DkJ4E)
Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2015 10:00 AM (zoehZ)
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 10:01 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at July 20, 2015 10:01 AM (jsWA8)
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 10:02 AM (DkJ4E)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 20, 2015 10:02 AM (oZr5y)
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 10:03 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 20, 2015 10:02 AM (oZr5y)
Got intoxicated by the smell of brine. Once you go preserved cucumber you never go back.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 10:03 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 10:04 AM (DkJ4E)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 20, 2015 10:04 AM (YFw5T)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 20, 2015 10:05 AM (kivUY)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 20, 2015 10:05 AM (kivUY)
Obviously h8ters. They shall have to be reeducated.
Posted by: Department of Mental Readjustment at July 20, 2015 10:06 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 10:07 AM (DkJ4E)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 20, 2015 10:07 AM (5buP8)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2015 10:07 AM (+b/zi)
Posted by: steevy at July 20, 2015 10:07 AM (sPO3u)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 20, 2015 10:08 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: NCKate at July 20, 2015 10:08 AM (emNpS)
Heh.
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 10:07 AM (DkJ4E)
*Snort* To be blackmailed you have to feel shame.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 10:09 AM (RD7QR)
LOLz @ AshleyMadison getting hacked. That's gonna suck for lots of cheaters
4 million bald, fat middle-aged men and one woman got their person info hacked today...
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 20, 2015 10:09 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: fixerupper at July 20, 2015 10:09 AM (8XRCm)
Kill me off?
Is there a saying in Italian for "Karma's a bitch"?
Posted by: Abe Vigoda at July 20, 2015 10:09 AM (NjiZL)
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 10:09 AM (sWgE+)
Education be damned! Let the fun ensue.
http://bit.ly/1Sxepfx
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 10:10 AM (DkJ4E)
128 Democrats say "The Deal" will be a tough sell on the Hill. Why are they saying this? The Deal has already been made.
For the same reason OBumbles came out the week before the "deal" (capitulation) was announced and claimed a 50/50 chance of coming to terms. $15 billion in gold was airmailed from S. Africa to Tehran the previous week. The deal was done a long time ago. They want to make their own narrative about the administration "beating the odds at the last minute." The Congress has to pass a bill DISAPPROVING the deal, which Obama vetoes. Presto! It's LAW, BITCHES!
Fukc you very much, Bob Corker.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 20, 2015 10:10 AM (5buP8)
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 10:11 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: fixerupper at July 20, 2015 10:11 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2015 10:11 AM (+b/zi)
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 10:12 AM (ogYsy)
Posted by: steevy at July 20, 2015 10:13 AM (sPO3u)
Posted by: eman at July 20, 2015 10:13 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Old Hob at July 20, 2015 10:14 AM (Z+7WE)
Where the hell have you been when the SCOAMFS administration is killing them?
You POS!
Posted by: Kreplach at July 20, 2015 10:14 AM (97FRK)
Now that our government is so powerful and employs so many scumbags, or at least requires clearance for so many scumbags the overlap between OPM and the 'madison hack is likely very, very large.
Brb, gotta learn Mandarin
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2015 10:14 AM (+b/zi)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 20, 2015 09:44 AM (0O7c5)
And even worse, the fvcking Maricopa GOPe machine refuses to close our state primary, so the dems and dems masquerading as independants will make sure Kelli Ward gets stomped in the primary. Which sucks because Kelli is a pretty solid conservative. So we will be stuck with Captain McQueeg yet again.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at July 20, 2015 10:14 AM (O9qtX)
Posted by: steevy at July 20, 2015 10:13 AM (sPO3u)
And cockroaches that look like Abe Vigoda.
(I've already denounced myself.)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 10:14 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: eman at July 20, 2015 10:14 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 20, 2015 10:14 AM (oFCZn)
And a grand total of one GOP senator voted against. This is America's opposition party.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 20, 2015 10:15 AM (YFw5T)
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at July 20, 2015 10:15 AM (eytER)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 20, 2015 10:14 AM (oFCZn)
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Hey.... speak for yourself buster. Dont project your short comings on us.....
Posted by: fixerupper at July 20, 2015 10:15 AM (8XRCm)
Fukc you very much, Bob Corker.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 20, 2015 10:10 AM
I can remember a time when the only question would have been whether every member of Congress would vote this abomination down or one or two might hold out and suffer the condemnation of their peers.
Yeah, I'm old. There used to be good, patriotic Democrats -- not to mention Republicans -- at one time. Those days are gone.
Posted by: MrScribbler at July 20, 2015 10:16 AM (rCmeG)
I heard an interview with the guy that started the site. If I remember right DC was in the top 3 of applicants to the site.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 10:17 AM (sWgE+)
+1
Posted by: V the K at July 20, 2015 10:17 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: The size challenged hours at July 20, 2015 10:17 AM (bhCkQ)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 10:18 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 10:18 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at July 20, 2015 10:15 AM
That one GOP Senator isn't even running for Preezy, AFAIK.
Who'd'a thunk it?
Posted by: MrScribbler at July 20, 2015 10:18 AM (rCmeG)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 20, 2015 10:19 AM (iQIUe)
Fukc you very much, Bob Corker.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 20, 2015 10:10 AM
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Funny..... I dont remember that episode on Schoolhouse Rock.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 20, 2015 10:19 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: A. Grande at July 20, 2015 10:20 AM (1P74Q)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 20, 2015 10:20 AM (iQIUe)
Who'd'a thunk it?
As soon as we have a conservative candidate in the race I like what Trump is doing.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 10:20 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 20, 2015 10:21 AM (+b/zi)
Blah, blah, blah, Trump.... Blah, blah, blah,, McCain.... Blah, blah, blah,, whatever....
I got this...
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 20, 2015 10:21 AM (HSmrB)
to wit, these establishment hacks are saying things they can't take back.
In reporting today, I see it's all focused on Trump's comments re McCain, but no mention is given to McCain's comments call HIS OWN constituents "crazies."
That is 1000 times more offensive than Trump firing off a glib Patton critique of McCain's service.
Rubio and Perry just killed their own chances, and they don't even know it.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 10:22 AM (q5APL)
Posted by: steevy
Once again, McCain is interested in fighting the peasantry and trump, but he shows no willingness to fight dems.
Fuck that guy.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 20, 2015 10:22 AM (Spluw)
Posted by: Guy at the Bottom of Demi Moore's Pool at July 20, 2015 10:22 AM (NjiZL)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 10:23 AM (39g3+)
Target rich environment. They're all muslim and hade the house of Saud so wala ISIS.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 10:23 AM (sWgE+)
Interesting story at Wired: scientists invent two new nucleotides for DNA, for a total of six letters in the genetic alphabet. That is some wild stuff.
Posted by: gp at July 20, 2015 10:23 AM (+Jpqc)
This country is not a military dictatorship and is civilian controlled, for the time being, so the opinions of those who wear and wore the uniform count exactly the same as anyone else's.
I don't see the McCains and Graham's et al going after the administration over the VA killing veterans or how in Benghazi the administration let good men die.
Posted by: Kreplach at July 20, 2015 10:23 AM (97FRK)
Fukc you very much, Bob Corker.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 20, 2015 10:10 AM
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Funny..... I dont remember that episode on Schoolhouse Rock.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 20, 2015 10:19 AM (8XRCm)
Well, I'm just a bill
Yes I'm only a bill
And I'm dying here on Capitol Hill.
Because the supposed opposition party is spineless
And the media is mindless.
So I'm dying here on Capitol Hill.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 10:24 AM (RD7QR)
We see this whole episode for what it really is.
Fuck McCain. He won the GOP primary when, way back when, in 2000 he told the NYT that he was surprised that no one from the Dems had asked him to switch parties.
And we're worried about Trump's loyalties? LOL
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 10:24 AM (q5APL)
Posted by: gp at July 20, 2015 10:23 AM (+Jpqc)
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Holy shit. And everybody wigs out about bug resistant corn...
Posted by: fixerupper at July 20, 2015 10:25 AM (8XRCm)
Don't forget McCain attack his own VP candidate DURING his campaign
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 10:25 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Angelo Rossitto at July 20, 2015 10:26 AM (HQFP/)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 20, 2015 10:26 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Neil Armstrong at July 20, 2015 10:26 AM (NjiZL)
They should learn from his approach, but won't.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 10:27 AM (39g3+)
Him and his ilk are done...finished.....over. Time to go and get gone. Trump spoke and the world is listening. Good bye to all the old, outdated, fossilized political operatives of yesteryear. I want new, fresh, motivating people and ideas and I don't care if someone like Trump deals the cards. GOP Establishment? Dead.....McCain? Dead....Me? Dead too.
Posted by: Zombie Barry Goldwater at July 20, 2015 10:27 AM (D0NZx)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 20, 2015 10:26 AM (iQIUe)
TOO quiet.
Posted by: Every bad movie from around 1940 or so at July 20, 2015 10:27 AM (RD7QR)
Who needs jetpacks and flying cars? We'll be able to fly ourselves!
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 10:27 AM (qBbz7)
Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2015 10:28 AM (Z9g7j)
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 10:28 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!
TOO quiet.
Posted by: Every bad movie from around 1940
DUNH DUNH DUNNNNNN!
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 10:28 AM (qBbz7)
Posted by: eman at July 20, 2015 10:29 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Neil Armstrong at July 20, 2015 10:26 AM (NjiZL)
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Wished Mr Gorsky good luck??
Posted by: fixerupper at July 20, 2015 10:30 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 10:30 AM (sWgE+)
I didn't want to laugh, but I was in tears. I admit it, I have a crass sense of humor. Sorry, not sorry.
http://nydn.us/1JsrD8s
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 10:30 AM (DkJ4E)
He's showing that you don't have to. That you don't have to apologize, that you don't have to back down, even if you say something stupid or wrong.
Just keep pushing, strong, fast, and confident. GOP candidates need to take heed. They're acting like if they are careful enough, the press won't spin them or attack them. That's an idiotic fantasy. The press will always smear, distort, misrepresent, and lie about them, no matter what they say.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 10:30 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 10:31 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Neil Armstrong at July 20, 2015 10:26 AM (NjiZL)
Left a steamer on the moon?
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 10:31 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: no good deed at July 20, 2015 10:32 AM (GgxVX)
Posted by: Neil Armstrong at July 20, 2015 10:26 AM
That was the day Richard Nixon called "the greatest day since the Creation," amirite?
Posted by: MrScribbler at July 20, 2015 10:32 AM (rCmeG)
Let's move on the next subject: Why aren't the Republican candidates attacking Democrats?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 20, 2015 10:32 AM (NjiZL)
Posted by: Neil Armstrong
Got your next door neighbor a blow job?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 10:32 AM (qBbz7)
Posted by: Neil Armstrong at July 20, 2015 10:26 AM (NjiZL)
Left a steamer on the moon?
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 10:31 AM (sWgE+)
I'd hate to be the engineer who had to design that airlock system...
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 10:32 AM (RD7QR)
Did you hear that all the other Republicans won't allow Trump to debate until he apologizes?
That's what I heard, anyway.
Guess what? I wont vote for anymore Republicans until they apologize to Us for all theyve done.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 10:33 AM (ogYsy)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 20, 2015 10:32 AM
Because they get their advice from the Pillsbury Doughboy?
Posted by: MrScribbler at July 20, 2015 10:33 AM (rCmeG)
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 10:34 AM (ogYsy)
Let's move on the next subject: Why aren't the Republican candidates attacking Democrats?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 20, 2015 10:32 AM (NjiZL)
Abject spinelessness. Greed. Misplaced collegiality. Fear of being depicted as angry and mean. Did I mention abject spinelessness?
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 10:34 AM (RD7QR)
Guess what I did 46 years ago today?
Posted by: Neil Armstrong at July 20, 2015 10:26 AM (NjiZL)
Oh, thanks. I need to call Mommy today. Dad died on this date almost 20 years ago and this is the only way I remember the date.
On a happier note, 46 years ago was the first time I was allowed to stay up late and watch the TV. Saw that first step live.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2015 10:34 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2015 10:35 AM (OGm46)
Exactly, both are worthy of contempt. Its like watching a two slugs fight. But candidates should learn from how Trump is handling it.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 10:35 AM (39g3+)
Wont allow trump to debate?
What does that mean? They'll all refuse to show up for the Fox debate and just give Trump 2 hours alone on the stage?
Yeah, right!
Or do they mean Fox will not let him on stage? IN which case... good. Why are we letting the media STILL be our gatekeepers?
No one should do the debates with CNN/ Salem or Fox. Live stream it online and have real conservatives ask the questions, town hall style. Anyone interested enough in the primaries will watch, and everyone else can go suck a dick, frankly. The media uses the "debates" not to showcase the candidates an their different views, but to get "gotcha" quotes on republicans. It's op research for the dems. So why even show up?
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 20, 2015 10:35 AM (AkOaV)
Posted by: JoeF. at July 20, 2015 10:36 AM (5zbYD)
Terrific.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2015 10:35 AM (OGm46)
And the window for green cards is already swamped.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 10:36 AM (RD7QR)
I caress your wife
Three input and
Cleveland Steamer finisher
Before I send her
Home to you
No shower
Buenos noches
Posted by: Paolo at July 20, 2015 10:36 AM (RDB/C)
I need an all-male workplace.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at July 20, 2015 10:37 AM (vgIRn)
It means theyll use the excuse to EXCLUDE Trump from the debates.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 10:37 AM (ogYsy)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 10:37 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at July 20, 2015 10:37 AM (O9qtX)
No one has yet explained his Flying Dutchman campaign of 2012. he can crash and burn, politically speaking, and he'd go back to being Trump. hell, he's being Trump right now.And that's true even IF he isn't running as a spoiler for Hillarity.
Students and tycoons running their mouths aren't impressive; in both cases, they have little or nothing to lose and they are probably playing at it, fueling their vanities.
The reason we're so impressed by our founding fathers was because they had much to lose, (and several did) and the gains were long term, for them and more for posterity.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 20, 2015 10:37 AM (Spluw)
Posted by: JoeF. at July 20, 2015 10:36 AM (5zbYD)
Forgot about Keith Richards. You could use that skin for a vacuum suit.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 10:37 AM (RD7QR)
Terrific.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2015 10:35 AM
Fun Fact: the American Flag will not be raised at our embassy in La Habana 'til Jon Cary drops down there in a month or two for a shot of rum and a cee-gar.
Posted by: MrScribbler at July 20, 2015 10:38 AM (rCmeG)
You're joking, but in today's business environment? You're much better off yeah.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 10:38 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 10:37 AM (ogYsy)
How can Fox set rules like "the top 10 polling nationally" (ie: name recognition tests) to get on stage, then say "...well, except Trump."?
Makes the primary process look even more rigged than it is.
Fox -- it was your stupid rule. You have to live by it.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 20, 2015 10:38 AM (AkOaV)
Got an email from 2 friends of mine to join them at a rally by Code Pink "in support of our Cuban friends. Come show the love for your Cuban neighbors." Yea right *delete*.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 10:38 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 10:38 AM (ogYsy)
Wait, for real? Someone reported how you breathe? Sounds like she needs more to do during the work day.
Posted by: no good deed at July 20, 2015 10:39 AM (GgxVX)
Posted by: Soothsayer
Brilliant!!! We've been wanting an excuse to flip off EVERY republican simultaneously. As if Trump wouldn't know where to find a live camera unless the RNC provided it.
Posted by: MFM at July 20, 2015 10:40 AM (Spluw)
Posted by: Prez'nit Libreta at July 20, 2015 10:40 AM (Dwehj)
I can hate Trump for making asinine statements but I don't hate him for not apologizing while running for political office. It's the stand every politician on the Right should have. Though I don't think he would apologize as a civilian because he's a dick.
Posted by: Cruzinator at July 20, 2015 10:40 AM (B7Uun)
So McCain won't apologize for calling Trump supporters "crazies" because he says that's a term of "endearment".
Trump can start focusing on the fucking democrats as soon as the spineless sellout GOPe knives have been pulled out of his back.
The criticism, "why aren't we focused on the dems" is pretty hollow when the GOPe mugger with a big bowie knife is sneaking up behind you in an alley.
One thing at a time. BTW, check out Rick Perry's facebook page. It's fucking hilarious.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 10:41 AM (q5APL)
Posted by: Cruzinator at July 20, 2015 10:40 AM (B7Uun)
Well at least he didn't give Iran the bomb, like Cruz.
So he has that going for him.
Posted by: mynewhandle at July 20, 2015 10:41 AM (AkOaV)
Let that thought roll around in your brain and then remember that bourbon tastes pretty good in the morning, too.
Posted by: physics geek at July 20, 2015 10:41 AM (MT22W)
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Did Heather tell her to fuck off???
Posted by: fixerupper at July 20, 2015 10:41 AM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 10:42 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 10:42 AM (39g3+)
Wait -- aren't they rolled on the willing thighs of nubile girls anymore? (Sniffs)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 10:43 AM (RD7QR)
Silver at 14.88 per oz. Costs more to mine it.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 10:44 AM (sWgE+)
What a surprise-- they actually admit something. Ace will be so pleased.
They've been Voxified! How long now before the Times just straight-up merges with Vox? Forget blogging! I can't wait for Matt Yglesias, long form, on his favorite famous bridges in Israel.
http://bit.ly/1MDanAA
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 10:44 AM (DkJ4E)
I'm thinking it won't work.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 20, 2015 10:45 AM (oFCZn)
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Did Heather tell her to fuck off???
Posted by: fixerupper
Well played. Golf clap.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 10:46 AM (qBbz7)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 20, 2015 10:46 AM (W5DcG)
She's got issues, but with respect to female workers out there (and I love and respect the many I've worked with in the past) a guy would get his *ss kicked for this bullsh*t.
Need to find a new job.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at July 20, 2015 10:46 AM (vgIRn)
I'm thinking it won't work.
I'm thinking he's going to get a couple point bounce out of it.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 10:46 AM (sWgE+)
LOTS of fun.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at July 20, 2015 10:46 AM (eytER)
Will the State Department be buying several 1957 Chevy's for embassy transportation on the island?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 20, 2015 10:47 AM (81UWZ)
I need an all-male workplace.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at July 20, 2015 10:37 AM (vgIRn)
Jesus, man. This bitch be crazy.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 10:47 AM (2Ojst)
Yes, there can be no quarter given to the left or the GOPe.
All they do with an apology is weaponize it and use it to marginalize. Especially, as here, where Trump has nothing to apologize for. Period. Full stop. Being inartful or glib does not require an apology, especially when your target is a POS asshole.
Watch McCain on Morning Joe re his "crazies" comment, what a fucking liar and horrible human being.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 10:48 AM (q5APL)
Posted by: Fritz at July 20, 2015 10:49 AM (UzPAd)
Silver at 14.88 per oz. Costs more to mine it.
APMEX has 1 oz 2011 Silver Eagles at $21.37.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 10:49 AM (qBbz7)
LOTS of fun.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at July 20, 2015 10:46 AM (eytER)
Jeremiah Johnson heartily approves.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 10:49 AM (RD7QR)
Id love to see Trump hook up with Ross Perot and Tom Tancredo and restart the Reform Party.
I would be all over that shit.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 10:49 AM (ogYsy)
Posted by: BurtTC
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You're not missing anything. It's just a realistic portrait of a bunch of naked women with perfect boobies.
Posted by: Daybrother at July 20, 2015 09:56 AM (kOBIH)
Curses! Curse this work pooter, and curse my lack of imagination to see THAT picture instead of the one I'm picturing in my head.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 10:49 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 10:49 AM (q5APL)
Ain't that the truth. I was in Toronto a couple of years ago and said, WTF, I'll have one. And yes, it was a real one, not a counterfeit one like they are in the Caribbean.
It was...OK. Not magical. Honestly, I much preferred the La Aurora Preferidos I had brought with me.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at July 20, 2015 10:49 AM (eytER)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 10:50 AM (39g3+)
The real reason McCain has a political career?
Budweiser.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 20, 2015 10:51 AM (+1T7c)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 20, 2015 10:51 AM (81UWZ)
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 20, 2015 10:51 AM (/Ho8c)
Spot price. I buy Sunshine Mint bars currently 17.79
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 10:52 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 10:30 AM (39g3+)
Great point.
Posted by: Arson Wells at July 20, 2015 10:52 AM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 20, 2015 10:52 AM (AmZ6K)
I'd wait for the heavy energy on the downside with three major buys set for when it hits $750/$700/$650.
Timing is everything.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 10:52 AM (q5APL)
I would be all over that shit.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 10:49 AM (ogYsy)
Let's start planning the Cabinet. I would have to find room somewhere for Herb Cain, but my absolute, no compromise pick would be Todd Akin for Health and Human Services.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 10:52 AM (TOk1P)
I've been looking into getting one.
VA definitely - you can own a suppressor. I think it still requires local LEO sign off, so it's county dependent.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at July 20, 2015 10:52 AM (eytER)
Bring lots of dolares and penicillin, por favor.
Posted by: Rosalita la Prostituta at July 20, 2015 10:53 AM (NjiZL)
My God, you are such an asshole.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 20, 2015 10:53 AM (/Ho8c)
That's a term of endearment.
Now bow down and hearken unto mini moo as he harangues you abour purity.
Posted by: John Mccain built a damned wall IN HIS MIND at July 20, 2015 10:53 AM (Spluw)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 20, 2015 10:54 AM (AmZ6K)
I didn't know the backstory with this guy. That he was pretty much last in his class, that he dumped his wife when he got back, that Ross Perot had to cover a lot of McCain's ex-wife's medical bills, and that Ross Perot is reported as saying McCain was the most callous person he'd ever met.
Wow.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 10:54 AM (q5APL)
He doesn't need it.
Posted by: Doomed at July 20, 2015 10:54 AM (bGLSw)
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 10:54 AM (sWgE+)
TOO quiet.
I have a very bad feeling about this...
Posted by: Agent J at July 20, 2015 10:54 AM (ueOgE)
APMEX Rounds and bars are currently $17.27 & 17.57
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 10:55 AM (qBbz7)
TOO quiet.
I have a very bad feeling about this...
Posted by: Agent J at July 20, 2015 10:54 AM (ueOgE)
*tumbleweed rolls down the street*
*revolver cylinder turns*
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 10:55 AM (2Ojst)
shipment of Cuban cigars and find out how crappy they are now under
communist rule.
Ain't that the truth. I was in Toronto a couple of years ago and
said, WTF, I'll have one. And yes, it was a real one, not a counterfeit
one like they are in the Caribbean.
It was...OK. Not magical. Honestly, I much preferred the La Aurora Preferidos I had brought with me.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at July 20, 2015 10:49 AM (eytER)
Ah, yes. Reminds me of back in the day, when you could not "legally" get Coors beer here. I was not old enough myself, but I know some folks who acted like it was the greatest thing ever. Others who were "meh." Once I got old enough myself, it told me all I needed to know about the difference between those two types of people.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 10:56 AM (TOk1P)
watched a bunch of demonstrations and wholly shit is it quiet.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 10:56 AM (q5APL)
Posted by: Prez'nit Libreta at July 20, 2015 10:56 AM (Dwehj)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 10:56 AM (qBbz7)
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 20, 2015 10:53 AM (/Ho8c)
Don't I know it. I even think I sneezed once.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at July 20, 2015 10:56 AM (vgIRn)
He doesn't need it.
Posted by: Doomed at July 20, 2015 10:54 AM (bGLSw)
That was my comment. With Republicans like we got, who needs Democrats. The fuckface in chief only has had to veto 4 bills in the past 6 years. Only 4.
One party rule. How does it taste?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 20, 2015 10:56 AM (uhkms)
English writer G. K. Chesterton (1874-1936) once wrote, "Courage is almost a contradiction in terms. It means a strong desire to live taking the form of a readiness to die."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2015 10:56 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 10:30 AM (DkJ4E)
I don't need to hear about Perky Katie's sex life, thanks.
Posted by: Agent J at July 20, 2015 10:57 AM (ueOgE)
Sounds like a plan.
Posted by: Hank at July 20, 2015 10:57 AM (hA1uV)
That's the money quote from the NYT Public Editor piece. Its not out of context, its in her own article at the Sunday Times.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 10:57 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 20, 2015 10:58 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: House of Flannel Workplace Mediator at July 20, 2015 10:59 AM (TOk1P)
Because they're about to pay it all out to this woman.
http://nydn.us/1LycY00
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 10:59 AM (DkJ4E)
You see, liberals insist that religious people who run businesses are serving the public and therefore aren't allowed to discriminate based on their religion. They're now a public service. So closing on Sunday discriminates against anyone who wants a chicken sandwich on Sunday.
They can keep the sabbath at a personal level (don't mow your lawn, don't work on your taxes), but when you're a business you can't push that shit on the public. Why should I be inconvenienced because of your religion? I work monday thru friday and have limited free time to take care of things on the weekend.
Jewish businesses must also be open on Saturday. Can anyone fault my logic?
Posted by: VBJonny at July 20, 2015 10:59 AM (tic+M)
That's the money quote from the NYT Public Editor piece. Its not out of context, its in her own article at the Sunday Times.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 10:57 AM (39g3+)
Eh. The base assumption is that anybody associated with the NYT has any value to add.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 11:00 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains
So, has this chick boiled anyone's pet rabbits in the office kitchen?
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 20, 2015 11:00 AM (/Ho8c)
If it's possible for feces to rot, very much like rotting feces, I reluctantly imagine.
Posted by: Doomed at July 20, 2015 11:00 AM (bGLSw)
They could have ended the war with Germany in a very advantageous position. The film Valkyrie was quite good too, despite having nut boy Cruise in it. He's effective, if insane.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:00 AM (39g3+)
I would be all over that shit.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 10:49 AM (ogYsy)
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Great reality show concept pitch, right there.
You'd have comedy gold.
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 11:02 AM (DkJ4E)
Interesting story at Wired: scientists invent two new nucleotides for DNA, for a total of six letters in the genetic alphabet. That is some wild stuff.
Posted by: gp at July 20, 2015 10:23 AM (+Jpqc)
I see no possible way that could go wrong.
Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2015 11:03 AM (zoehZ)
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 20, 2015 11:03 AM (Spluw)
Don't forget Jesse Ventura!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:03 AM (39g3+)
Not in the slightest. Now that you mentioned it, I'm genuinely surprised some leftist armed with a helminth lawyer hasn't sued CFA for exactly that reason: forced religious participation in a "public" place (public place = restaurant; forced precipitation = not open on Sunday).
Posted by: Doomed at July 20, 2015 11:03 AM (bGLSw)
They could have ended the war with Germany in a very advantageous position. The film Valkyrie was quite good too, despite having nut boy Cruise in it. He's effective, if insane.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:00 AM (39g3+)
FDR was wedded to the concept of unconditional surrender, probably because he was dying and his chief advisor was a Russian spy. So, the war would have gone on, assassination or no. IMHO.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at July 20, 2015 11:03 AM (RD7QR)
But not as courageous as putting on a dress and getting an ESPN award
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2015 11:04 AM (493sH)
You see, liberals insist that religious people who run businesses
are serving the public and therefore aren't allowed to discriminate
based on their religion. They're now a public service. So closing on
Sunday discriminates against anyone who wants a chicken sandwich on
Sunday.
They can keep the sabbath at a personal level (don't mow your lawn,
don't work on your taxes), but when you're a business you can't push
that shit on the public. Why should I be inconvenienced because of your
religion? I work monday thru friday and have limited free time to take
care of things on the weekend.
Jewish businesses must also be open on Saturday. Can anyone fault my logic?
Posted by: VBJonny at July 20, 2015 10:59 AM (tic+M)
There's a local appliance discounter store here that advertises its being closed on Sundays. Their ads include the owner talking about how great your savings can be the other six days of the week (which is a bit of a lie), but the company is closed on Sunday, in honor of the Lard's day.
I laugh every time I hear him pronounce it.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 11:04 AM (TOk1P)
McCain sneered something at Trump and shook his cane and Trump has a really thin skin, plus he saw a poll positive in attacking McCain. He just did a lousy job at it, and now its a... what's a lemon party where they fight instead of, you know?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:05 AM (39g3+)
McCain to be a universally loved American hero, instead-
of a faithless asshole who constantly betrays and undercuts both his voters and his party.
Thus, the outrage will fail.
Vietnam was a long time ago and since then McCain has never lost an opportunity to squander his honor and the respect of others.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 20, 2015 11:06 AM (KUa85)
Sometimes, when I sneeze, I make dribble in my diaper.
Posted by: Hillary at July 20, 2015 11:06 AM (NjiZL)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:05 AM (39g3+)
A combustible lemon party?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 11:06 AM (2Ojst)
Interesting story at Wired: scientists invent two new nucleotides for DNA, for a total of six letters in the genetic alphabet. That is some wild stuff.
Posted by: gp at July 20, 2015 10:23 AM (+Jpqc)
I see no possible way that could go wrong.
Posted by: rickl at July 20, 2015 11:03 AM (zoehZ)
Nor I!
Posted by: Mutant with 4 arms at July 20, 2015 11:06 AM (RD7QR)
I like that saying.
I think I will use it.
Posted by: Hillary at July 20, 2015 11:07 AM (NjiZL)
Posted by: JoeF. at July 20, 2015 11:07 AM (5zbYD)
Nor I!
Posted by: Mutant with 4 arms at July 20, 2015 11:06 AM (RD7QR)
You're not a mutant, that's just your dead parasitic twin.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 11:07 AM (2Ojst)
So, has this chick boiled anyone's pet rabbits in the office kitchen?
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 20, 2015 11:00 AM (/Ho8c)
Not that I know of. But she does have more than her fair share of tattoos. Red flag, I suppose.
Well, heck. That's why I got a graduate degree from a Top 20 university. To sit in a cubicle with a tatted psycho with a GED.
Can someone PLEASE FIX THIS ECONOMY??????
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at July 20, 2015 11:07 AM (vgIRn)
Well, heck. That's why I got a graduate degree from a Top 20 university. To sit in a cubicle with a tatted psycho with a GED.
Can someone PLEASE FIX THIS ECONOMY??????
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at July 20, 2015 11:07 AM (vgIRn)
You start letting women out of the kitchen and into the workplace, and this is what happens.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 11:08 AM (2Ojst)
From what I understand, it started when McCain insulted Us by calling us "the crazies" who agree with Trump's remarks about illegals.
McCain said Trump was bringing out all "the crazies." Tump shot back, and I'm glad he did.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 11:08 AM (ogYsy)
Probably, although I suspect his allies might have had a different point of view on the subject.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:08 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:05 AM (39g3+)
A combustible lemon party?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 11:06 AM (2Ojst)
Maybe a pineapple party? Skin even more prickly, and nobody enjoying himself, what with all the pineapples being shoved in places where they won't go.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 11:09 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 11:09 AM (DkJ4E)
Its not that, its that Trump's response smeared everyone who has ever been a POW, and the guys that served with them. He went too far in his attack on McCain and it was a really poor statement to begin with. There's a lot you can attack McCain about, and Trump found the one dumb way to do it.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:10 AM (39g3+)
"Deranged jihadist"?
There's any other kind?
Posted by: anon a mouse at July 20, 2015 11:12 AM (C9pBZ)
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That.
Multiple overtures were rejected. One snag was that the Germans would not end their conflict with the Bolshies. They had a much better understanding of how evil the Russians were than Roosevelt did.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2015 11:13 AM (9mTYi)
I'm sorry I said such a horrible thing, I apologize, I apologize, I apologize. Forgive me?
I should of said Black Lives Matter!
Posted by: Colin at July 20, 2015 11:13 AM (WQLtV)
Posted by: mindful webworker - the bee's knees at July 20, 2015 11:13 AM (pDkCk)
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 10:30 AM (DkJ4E)
Is there a video?
I'm asking for a friend.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 20, 2015 11:13 AM (oFCZn)
There's any other kind?
Posted by: anon a mouse at July 20, 2015 11:12 AM (C9pBZ)
Good thing, I would hate to think what kind of damage an arranged jihadist could do.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 11:13 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Cruzinator at July 20, 2015 11:13 AM (B7Uun)
And yet they had an answer to why Roof shot up a church even before they had his name.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:14 AM (39g3+)
And rightly so. Time for a tax increase, citizens (and otherwise) of Chandler, AZ!
Posted by: Agent J at July 20, 2015 11:14 AM (ueOgE)
The funny thing is, and I'm not sure why people don't think this, the hardest election Trump will have is in the GOP primary.
He'd win the general walking away. The problem is, that I have, how would he govern.
But, for one sure thing, he'd build that fucking wall. And, at this point, that's enough for me.
Plus he doesn't hate the fucking country. Do we need to know more?
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 11:14 AM (q5APL)
Posted by: Cruzinator at July 20, 2015 11:13 AM (B7Uun)
Whatever you do, don't go to Mel Gibson's house. It won't end well.
Posted by: Stan and Kyle at July 20, 2015 11:15 AM (TOk1P)
In this day and age, I really don't understand why we still do this. Not every debate needs to be a 20 person clusterf** where you only get 10 sec to answer a given question.
It seems like it'd be an easy benefit for 2-3 of the lower tier candidates to get together and work with one of the popular conservative sites and have an actual debate. It'd be a win for everyone. Grassroot publicity for the candidates that they can't get on conventional news, lots of free hits to whoever gets to moderate and stream the thing, and for people looking to hear more about these lesser known people, we'd get to hear them answer questions that conservatives actually care about rather than stupid wedge issues delivered by libs.
Posted by: joe at July 20, 2015 11:15 AM (KUaJL)
So glad we watched Interstellar instead.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 11:15 AM (qBbz7)
Do Trump's words change history or erase what people did?
It's time to stop pretending that offending someone actually means anything. It doesnt.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 11:16 AM (ogYsy)
I cannot for the life of me figure out upon what rational and historical basis anyone could be that wrong and naive about Donald Trump.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:16 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 20, 2015 11:16 AM (AmZ6K)
Posted by: ThunderB at July 20, 2015 11:16 AM (zOTsN)
Read that as "arranging jihadist" for a second - mental image of rampaging interior designer...
Posted by: anon a mouse at July 20, 2015 11:16 AM (C9pBZ)
Have they considered the possibility that he's angry at Neil de Grasse Tyson for insisting Pluto isn't a planet? Frankly, that should just be the default assumption for such kinds of workplace-related violence.
Posted by: Agent J at July 20, 2015 11:17 AM (ueOgE)
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 11:09 AM (DkJ4E)
From what I've seen and read it's all major "news" outlets and the FBI is still without a clue as well
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2015 11:17 AM (493sH)
too much
Yet Again, the Left is Caught Fraudulently Faking Support for its Ridiculous Policies
http://bit.ly/1fhBTIT
this is crazy sh*t
I'm so tired of this. How can we keep up?
Fake Jim Beam Letter Reveals Quiet FCC Lobbying Campaign (Politico Pro pay article)
The lobbying effort came to light after one letter -- ostensibly from
famous bourbon maker Jim Beam -- turned out to be a fraud...
Jim Beam's corporate owner quickly denied penning or authorizing the June
24 letter...
( T )he letters are part of a widespread advocacy effort on the issue from public interest groups and trade groups...
COMPTEL defended the lobbying effort, saying that the group "is proud of these efforts."
need to start suing these people out of existence
it is what they do to us
it's a Red State article
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 20, 2015 11:17 AM (qCMvj)
He just couldn't hand eastern Europe over to Uncle Joe fast enough
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2015 11:18 AM (493sH)
Read that as "arranging jihadist" for a second - mental image of rampaging interior designer...
Posted by: anon a mouse at July 20, 2015 11:16 AM (C9pBZ)
"Infidel! The drapes are too heavy and Allah is enraged!" (Sustained AK-47 fire)
Posted by: Abu bin Arranging Furniture at July 20, 2015 11:18 AM (RD7QR)
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Words fail me....
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2015 11:19 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 11:15 AM (qBbz7)
Still haven't seen it. Have Kingsman waiting for me. Watched "Up" with my kids last night for the umpteenth time. Saddest first fifteen minutes of any "kids" movie ever. Still, it's interesting in that I pick up different themes every time I watch it - obsession, abandonment, unfulfilled dreams, letting go of the past.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 11:19 AM (2Ojst)
I tuned into Imus this morning just in time to listen to him pick up the torch for McCain. That sealed it.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 11:19 AM (ogYsy)
======================
You might be right: he's lefty enough to capture a lot of moderate Democrats, and is outspoken enough to get a big part of the working class indie votes. His problem is that he's so far left he probably can't win the GOP primary, kind of a similar situation to Jeb.
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 11:19 AM (DkJ4E)
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 11:19 AM (sWgE+)
It varies. Some vets here were enraged. Many on my twitter feed were very, very angry. Some are fine with it. It cost him some support at least.
In coming weeks he'll say more stuff that costs him more followers. That's the down side of being so confident and mouthy.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:20 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 20, 2015 11:20 AM (T4/VO)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 20, 2015 11:20 AM (T4/VO)
Fixed for accuracy.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 11:20 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 11:15 AM (qBbz7)
Don't know if that was sarcasm since some people say that about Interstellar too but I liked that movie. Got to admit Matt Damon can play really a character that you just want to see die in a fire.
Posted by: Cruzinator at July 20, 2015 11:21 AM (B7Uun)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 11:22 AM (qBbz7)
Trump forcing McCain to 'defend the troops' just illustrated McCain's failure to do so for decades.
Well played , Mr. Trump.
Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 11:23 AM (+70b8)
Especially when the only questions are going be one like:
* Do you support a rape victim's right to an abortion OR do you hate women?
* Do you support a Dreamer's right to a free college education and citizenship OR do you hate brown people?
* Do you support families that come in all shapes and size (SSM, polygamy) or do you hate LGBT people?
And so on.
Let's just stop them from pretending it's anything other than oppo research/creating oppo political ad soundbites for the Dems.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 11:23 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at July 20, 2015 11:23 AM (jsWA8)
No snark. I enjoyed it.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 11:24 AM (qBbz7)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:24 AM (39g3+)
Especially when the only questions are going be one like:
Boxers or briefs?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 11:25 AM (qBbz7)
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 11:25 AM (DkJ4E)
Amen! You forget it's a cartoon it's so freakin' good.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 11:25 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: anon a mouse at July 20, 2015 11:25 AM (C9pBZ)
Raise your hand if you really believe that Donald Trump hates the military and especially those "loser" POWs.
Sheesh.
I am not a TRUMP fan but , seriously, do you guys even politics?
Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 11:25 AM (+70b8)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 20, 2015 11:25 AM (1ijHg)
Or the bullshit political theater regarding the fait accompli regarding Iran getting nukes?
Or of recruiting offices becoming cheap targets for half assed jihadis, just as schools and churches are for other violent wackjobs?
The current politcal class is terrible, and getting worse. They are doing and saying anything to avoid substantive issues.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 20, 2015 11:26 AM (Spluw)
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 11:26 AM (q5APL)
Boxers or briefs?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 11:25 AM (qBbz7)
"Do you believe in the unquestioned fact of evolution, or are you one of those crazy religious nutbags who believes that a magical sky-fairy created life?"
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 11:26 AM (2Ojst)
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Exactly right. Scum of the earth. Hopefully, McCain will lose this next primary.
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 11:26 AM (DkJ4E)
That's why I am not a fan of Up. The old man never was a sympathetic character to me even toward the end.
Posted by: Cruzinator at July 20, 2015 11:26 AM (B7Uun)
Posted by: ThunderB at July 20, 2015 11:26 AM (zOTsN)
Sure, everyone thinks that. John McCain probably looks in the mirror and sneers 'screw you.'
But that's not the problem here. Trump said, and I quote, "I like people who weren't captured." That's not a slam on McCain. That extends it to everyone who ever was a POW. It was at best awkward and poorly stated and its upset a lot of people.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:26 AM (39g3+)
because he was dying and his chief advisor was a Russian spy."
Plenty more than just the one.
Stalin's intelligence organs had the Roosevelt administration penetrated from top to bottom, including even the OSS, which was thoroughly compromised from inception.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 20, 2015 11:26 AM (noWW6)
Dunno, but save your money and don't rent "Chappie." Oy!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 11:27 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Carol at July 20, 2015 11:27 AM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Bernie Sanders, the Original Crazy Old White Guy at July 20, 2015 11:27 AM (NjiZL)
Posted by: ThunderB at July 20, 2015 11:28 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 11:29 AM (qBbz7)
Posted by: Cruzinator at July 20, 2015 11:26 AM (B7Uun)
Really? I saw tremendous evolution in his character over the course of the movie, when he was finally able to let go of the past, see beyond his own obsession and find joy in his life again.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 11:29 AM (2Ojst)
Let's just stop them from pretending it's anything other than oppo research/creating oppo political ad soundbites for the Dems.
I agree, debates are an early 20th century approach to politics that a smart candidate would mock and avoid. And for the GOP, all they do is set up zingers for the opposition and media. How dumb do you have to be to keep walking into that rake?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:29 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at July 20, 2015 11:29 AM (0O7c5)
Given the current crop of (bad) High School/College "journalism" and "leadership" fools, the future of said class is not encouraging...
Which, to be blunt, wasn't a problem back when the Feds/State were not in every aspect of one's life...
Posted by: anon a mouse at July 20, 2015 11:30 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: ThunderB at July 20, 2015 11:30 AM (zOTsN)
Raise your hand if you really believe that Donald Trump hates the military and especially those "loser" POWs.
Sheesh.
I am not a TRUMP fan but , seriously, do you guys even politics?
Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 11:25 AM (+70b
I am rather enjoying all those media outlets today who are declaring Trump's candidacy to be dead. As if it was EVER their call.
Sure, it's dumb to say things like what Trump said, but I'd prefer dumb over consultant-driven drivel that comes out of the mouths of the rest of the Republican field these days.
No, Trump doesn't hate POWs. I took it to be roughly the same sort of comment that was put in Patton's mouth in the movie about making the other dumb ba**ard die for HIS country. I really do think that's what he was going for.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 11:30 AM (TOk1P)
I also watched Run All Night--I had never heard of it until I saw it on the RedBox kiosk. Pretty standard Liam-Neeson-gets-pissed-and kills-alot-of-people formuls, but it was enjoyable. It also took plenty of plot cues from the far superior The Road to Perdition....
Posted by: JoeF. at July 20, 2015 11:30 AM (5zbYD)
Posted by: anon a mouse at July 20, 2015 11:31 AM (C9pBZ)
If someone was upset at that, but are not out there screraming bloody murder at the VA or the 22 a day, fuq them with a razor dildo and lemon lube.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at July 20, 2015 11:31 AM (jsWA8)
Posted by: Donald Trump at July 20, 2015 11:31 AM (+70b8)
Posted by: prescient11
You have absolutely no proof that Trump would win the general election. You just keep saying it.
You're honest to admit that, like me you're curious as to how he would govern.
You then shit the bed by stating as fact, "he'd build that wall". We were told by the OTHER side of the sissy bitch slap fight tat he'd build "that wall." McCain was obviously lying.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 20, 2015 11:31 AM (Spluw)
"UP" may or may not work as a childrens movie, but I thought it worked exceptionally well for adults. As I said, I loved it.
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 11:31 AM (DkJ4E)
Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 20, 2015 11:32 AM (GpgJl)
Posted by: willow at July 20, 2015 11:33 AM (nqBYe)
"We're a nation of laws," Walker, the Republican governor of Wisconsin, repeatedly told Jose Flores, 38, who was joined by two of his four children, Luis, 7, and Leslie, 13, who had tears rolling down her cheeks throughout the exchange. Flores, who lives in Waukesha and works for a medical supply factory, said he and his wife live in fear of being deported and separated from their children, who he said were all born in the United States.
"My point," Walker said, "is that you have to follow the law, follow the process."
Aaaand that's how they're going to do it - have super-sympathetic dreamers or same-sex couples or transgenders confront GOP candidates and force them to either acquiesce or be the bad guy (w/the MSM just waiting to pounce on anything that depicts 'em as heartless, mean, bigoted).
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 11:33 AM (NOIQH)
In their defense, so was British Intelligence at the time. They weren't being very careful about hiring commies and got riddled with them, all the way up in to the 80s.
I didn't care much for Up. It was okay, but the bad guy was just... randomly bad, he was bad so that there would be a bad guy instead of consistently and reasonably. His behavior was radical without a shred of supporting background or logic.
It was fun in parts and interesting to watch, but really overrated in my opinion. Before I saw it people were acting like it was Citizen Kane. It wasn't even one of Pixar's top 5 films.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:33 AM (39g3+)
Other question we'll hear in the "debates"
Posted by: anon a mouse at July 20, 2015 11:33 AM (C9pBZ)
"John McCain told the voters repeatedly how he 'heard them' and how he was going to 'build the dang fence'. John McCain then ignored the voters and did nothing. I'm different from John McCain. I genuinely do hear you. I genuinely will build the fence."
Honest, brutally effective, keeps focus on the original point of contention, slams McCain on an issue where he is far more vulnerable than on the war record issue.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 20, 2015 11:34 AM (noWW6)
Other question we'll hear in the "debates"
Posted by: anon a mouse at July 20, 2015 11:33 AM (C9pBZ)
"Do you believe in women's reproductive freedom, or do you support the conscription of her uterus by the state to bring a rapist's child to full term?"
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 11:35 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: ThunderB at July 20, 2015 11:35 AM (zOTsN)
I mean, before he gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Clinton Foundation and the United Nations?
Me neither.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 20, 2015 11:35 AM (NjiZL)
Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 20, 2015 11:35 AM (GpgJl)
And the police did not immediately arrest this person for flagrantly breaking the law and announcing it to the world. That's where we've gotten.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:36 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: Yo! at July 20, 2015 11:36 AM (W6iIX)
And we all know how--barring an act of a benevolent God--how 2016's going to play out...
Posted by: JoeF. at July 20, 2015 11:37 AM (5zbYD)
But the joy in his life was always connected to one person. He was the ultimate beta male. I dislike the woe is me people. I know I am in the minority about the movie. I did like the kid and dog.
Posted by: Cruzinator at July 20, 2015 11:37 AM (B7Uun)
Trump gets in petty feuds and slings insults (he's had an ongoing one w/Rosie O'Donell and others). This McCain comment was a perfect example of that - the bruiser mentality of giving a good smack-down instead of addressing the real issue. It makes him look petty and provides fodder for the MSM to gin up outragey outrage.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 11:38 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: willow
If you were running a spoiler campaign for Hillarity, how would you do it any differnently?
That useless, lying bastard McCain is whining about himself. He's not running for president, he's ignoring what he himself said during his last run, and his darling daughter is riding the ruling class gravy train.
The MFM is happily wasting time and breath asking the PoS about this, and most are obliging.
Anyone remember the MFM asking the dems if they woulld refuse to be seen with a racist that triggered fatal riots (sharpton)?
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 20, 2015 11:38 AM (Spluw)
Well, in NYC who else but a Dem would you donate to if your a businessman in NYC to get the skids greased. Both Sen. are D's Governor D. Assembly D.. Not a whole lot of options.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 11:38 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: JoeF. at July 20, 2015 11:37 AM (5zbYD)
Assumes facts not in evidence.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 11:38 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: ThunderB at July 20, 2015 11:38 AM (zOTsN)
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Words fail me....
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2015 11:19 AM (9mTYi)
At this point Barney Fife would be a step up from this batch of PC cretins
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2015 11:38 AM (493sH)
We're talking national level politics in the non serious age.
Sideshows are what we get.
Posted by: anon a mouse at July 20, 2015 11:38 AM (C9pBZ)
Here's something I found a little heartening:
The San Diego gay pride parade was rained out by unheard-of July downpours.
The San Diego Union-Tribune:
We could not celebrate the rain because it ruined our parade.
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at July 20, 2015 11:39 AM (hk5Mp)
Raise your hand if you really believe that Donald Trump hates the military and especially those "loser" POWs.
Sheesh.
I am not a TRUMP fan but , seriously, do you guys even politics?
Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 11:25 AM (+70b
And sadly, what he said did have nuggets of truth... at least in the old style military.
Could you imagine what ... oh.... George S. Patton would say about Trump's statements?
And I totally agree with his statement about forgotten Vets... seems that if you were not captured, or wounded... you are not worth support.
Those who went, did their duty, won the damn wars, and came home.... seem to be forgotten usually...
We are inundated with pictures and commercials about 'heroic' vets... but ONLY those who either die, or are maimed....
They never talk about the heroism of those who went and fought... and WON.... but daily I see commercials begging for money for wounded Vets, showing the cost of War....
Hmm.... thinking on it... that's a very good Anti Military Propaganda technique.... constantly show the cost, never the victory...
Posted by: BB Wolf at July 20, 2015 11:39 AM (qh617)
Yeah, he found the one stupid way to attack a universally loathed man. Bad misstep.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:39 AM (39g3+)
The San Diego gay pride parade was rained out by unheard-of July downpours.
The San Diego Union-Tribune:
We could not celebrate the rain because it ruined our parade.
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at July 20, 2015 11:39 AM (hk5Mp)
Now if it had been a golden shower...
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 11:39 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Paolo at July 20, 2015 11:40 AM (W6iIX)
Posted by: JoeF. at July 20, 2015 11:37 AM (5zbYD)
Yep. Jeb will be nominated. And if the Dems are smart enough NOT to nominate Hillery, they will beat him the way people like Jeb are meant to be beaten.
If they nominate Hilery, I predict a fatal aneurism sometime in September, and her running mate (O'mally?) winning in a landslide.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 11:40 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Insomniac
A: "Jeez; what did Bill Clinton do now!?!
Posted by: If the Stuppid party wasn't at July 20, 2015 11:40 AM (Spluw)
over consultant-driven drivel that comes out of the mouths of the rest
of the Republican field these days.
such as -
"My dear Democrat friendsh and colleagues".
Whether intentional or not, he did accomplish something by knocking out the "I was a military hero" free pass. I say that as a vet and a patriot.
Trump is an uncouth, flaming, narcissistic, self-serving a-hole with the morals of an alley cat who loves America.
The United States just elected and RE elected an uncouth, flaming, narcissistic, self-serving a-hole with the morals of an alley cat who hates America.
Think on that for a minute.
Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 11:40 AM (+70b8)
Why didn't He run as a Dem?
Has He said or denounced Dems and i've missed it?
wrg500 , that might be true.
Posted by: willow at July 20, 2015 11:40 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: MTF
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I'm conflicted. A little like 'Titanic'. It was worth sitting through the movie to see DiCaprio slip beneath the waves. In the same vein, watching Ed Asner being vicariously carried away to a remote jungle made me feel warm inside.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2015 11:40 AM (9mTYi)
A young man in his 20's (Matthew) the son of someone I know was broadsided by a car in DC which was travelling at a high rate of speed. He is in the hospital in DC in serious condition.
Thanks so much.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2015 11:40 AM (OSs/l)
Uh, ya might want to check out his final tweet, you guys. You know, the Koran text about smiting enemies?
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 11:41 AM (NOIQH)
Yep. Amazing, no?
Posted by: anon a mouse at July 20, 2015 11:41 AM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 11:41 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 20, 2015 11:42 AM (+1T7c)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 11:42 AM (zABgu)
Military Propaganda technique.... constantly show the cost, never the
victory...
Posted by: BB Wolf at July 20, 2015 11:39 AM (qh617)
Bingo.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 11:42 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: willow at July 20, 2015 11:42 AM (nqBYe)
While the whole wide world is fast asleep
You lie awake and think about the girl
And never, ever think of counting sheep
Sing it, rdbrewer!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 20, 2015 09:54 AM (iQIUe)
Can't get you RD, but I can get you Sinatra. Got yer morning crooner fix right here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqCLsp5owY8
Posted by: LizLem at July 20, 2015 11:42 AM (hvf9s)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 11:25 AM (qBbz7)
There's a third now.
"boxer briefs"
kind of a combo of the two
they are what my husband wears...
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 20, 2015 11:43 AM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Yo! at July 20, 2015 11:43 AM (W6iIX)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2015 11:43 AM (OSs/l)
Posted by: Penfold at July 20, 2015 11:44 AM (Fbt5B)
Walker confronted by an undocumented worker from Mexico
"My point," Walker said, "is that you have to follow the law, follow the process."
Walker, if you had wit and huevos you would have said, "Then I place you under citizen's arrest. Please wait here with me for the police." Would have just won the nomination and election.
But maybe being all sqooshy will work too.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 20, 2015 11:44 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at July 20, 2015 11:44 AM (hk5Mp)
Posted by: ThunderB at July 20, 2015 11:44 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 20, 2015 11:44 AM (2l5vw)
"We support our troops when they murder their officers!!"
Posted by: banner carried in NYC in 2003 at July 20, 2015 11:45 AM (Spluw)
Even in these increasingly dark days, there are small joys to be eked out in back corners of life.
One of them, for me, is that with my now having broken the Hollyweird habit completely, the likes of Asner will never again be pocketing any of my money.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 20, 2015 11:45 AM (noWW6)
Posted by: Paolo at July 20, 2015 11:40 AM (W6iIX)
Good lord, I have to admit that was the best thing I read all weekend.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 11:45 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Abe Vigoda at July 20, 2015 10:09 AM (NjiZL)
AshleyMadison.como?
Posted by: LizLem at July 20, 2015 11:45 AM (hvf9s)
You grease the palms of those that can grease the skids. In Ny and NYC it's Democrats you have to pay.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 11:45 AM (sWgE+)
Wait.... the guy is so afraid of being deported, his children are in tears...
But he announces he is here illegally to the entire US Press Corp?
Posted by: BB Wolf at July 20, 2015 11:45 AM (qh617)
Daddy doesn't have to tolerate the condescending arrogance from Donald Trump who on one occasion told me I had great tits and my ass was better than Kim Kardashians. I agree with Donald Trump on my body parts, but disagree with him regarding daddy. Fuck Trump!
Posted by: Puggy McCain at July 20, 2015 11:46 AM (IzUrJ)
Posted by: BurtTC
Dude, what sort of stuff do you read?
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 20, 2015 11:46 AM (/Ho8c)
And thus we get Whigs vs Toupees.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at July 20, 2015 11:46 AM (2l5vw)
>>"Still, for the FBI, the psychological profile of the disturbed
young man, Mohammod Abdulazeez, does not explain why he chose two U.S.
military targets, seven miles apart, for his deadly mission."
Psychology is witch-doctory.
The dude's name is Mohammod, he has a beard, he has social adaptation problems and is a drug addict, he jokes about terror watch lists in his high school year book and he has traveled to the ME several times recently.
He is 75% terror suspect based on that alone
Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 11:46 AM (+70b8)
Posted by: Paolo at July 20, 2015 11:40 AM (W6iIX)
Good lord, I have to admit that was the best thing I read all weekend.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 11:45 AM (TOk1P)
That whole thing makes me feel sick. Literally.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 11:46 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 20, 2015 11:47 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Feh at July 20, 2015 11:47 AM (ho6Ts)
That would be like the Democrats to sacrifice a guy and his entire family just to show how much of a meanie Scott Walker is.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 11:47 AM (zABgu)
"boxer briefs"
kind of a combo of the two
they are what my husband wears...
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 20, 2015 11:43 AM (qCMvj)
Support, without all the pinching and inching where one does not want to be pinched and inched. I don't know why it took this far into (and near the end of) civilization to come up with this concept.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 11:48 AM (TOk1P)
Why shouldn't he? It's not like he has anything to fear.
Posted by: Feh at July 20, 2015 11:48 AM (ho6Ts)
Always make sure that the woman you spent the night with isn't married to a member of SWAT.
Posted by: Fritz at July 20, 2015 11:48 AM (UzPAd)
Yep. Amazing, no?
Posted by: anon a mouse at July 20, 2015 11:41 AM (C9pBZ)
It is still a Felony to knowingly aid an illegal to stay in this country.... although not enforced...
Yet we have had Known illegals at both the Whitehouse, and as guests of Congress...
Posted by: BB Wolf at July 20, 2015 11:48 AM (qh617)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2015 11:49 AM (OSs/l)
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Attends Mosque, although we don't know which one yet..., for some reason.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2015 11:49 AM (9mTYi)
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 11:49 AM (sWgE+)
Posted by: Insomniac
It's disgusting. A total perversion. That isn't marriage, no matter how open their communication is about serial cuckolding.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 20, 2015 11:49 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 11:49 AM (zABgu)
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 20, 2015 11:46 AM (/Ho8c)
Stuff that doesn't generally give me this much opportunity to laugh at stupid white liberal males.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 11:49 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: willow
It is? We have no idea why he flirted with the idea in 2012. And now he's back. Why? And why as a rthuglickkkkkkkan? Hillarity was supposedly inevitable in 2008, and we know how that turned out. If 2016 is now soooper inevitable, then explain Webb, Sanders and O'Malley.
And Trump can easily outtalk any of them.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 20, 2015 11:49 AM (Spluw)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:50 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: Fritz
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Or with the Russians.
Posted by: Warren Zevon at July 20, 2015 11:50 AM (9mTYi)
Option 4:
Commando
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 11:49 AM (sWgE+)
hehe, so true
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 20, 2015 11:50 AM (qCMvj)
The dude's name is Mohammod, he has a beard, he has social adaptation problems and is a drug addict, he jokes about terror watch lists in his high school year book and he has traveled to the ME several times recently.
He is 75% terror suspect based on that alone
Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 11:46 AM (+70b
And just a couple of days before he went off.... he posted on the internet about figuring out the rules to go to heaven.... and the Koran says you go to heaven automatically if you die in Jihad.
But Secularists cannot understand that people of Faith... true believers... will do things based on Faith.
Posted by: BB Wolf at July 20, 2015 11:50 AM (qh617)
Posted by: torquewrench at July 20, 2015 11:50 AM (noWW6)
Only 75? I'd go with 99 percent.
No, make that 99.9 percent.
Posted by: anon a mouse at July 20, 2015 11:50 AM (C9pBZ)
But he announces he is here illegally to the entire US Press Corp?
Posted by: BB Wolf
...and that's why Senator McCain decided we should not build "the dang wall!"
So, so much tragedy. So why did they come here, and have anchor babies, and etc, etc, etc? Because life for these people in Mexico sucks. And is that MY fault (or yours, or the fault of millions of Americans at home)?
Apparently, this whole question is moot.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 20, 2015 11:51 AM (+1T7c)
Posted by: Yo! at July 20, 2015 11:51 AM (W6iIX)
"Donald Trump says he won't apologize for discrediting Arizona Senator as a 'War Hero.'"
That's about as completely slanted as possible.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:51 AM (39g3+)
Safest place he could be - and who here thinks he wasn't recruited to do that for the cameras by a Dem activists and/or media person?
Bet it was a Hillary operation.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 11:52 AM (NOIQH)
the study postulating that the guy who penned the original missive might
be vicariously living a gay life by letting his wife sleep around?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 11:49 AM (zABgu)
Highly likely, yes. I suppose it is possible for a hetero male to have that little self-respect, but really, if you don't mind your wife taking someone else's dong, you either want the dong for yourself (and might get it soon enough), or you have absolutely no love for the woman you married.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 11:53 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 11:53 AM (evdj2)
But he announces he is here illegally to the entire US Press Corp?
Exactly. Your words do not match your actions.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:53 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: Toilet Paper and Disposable Diapers at July 20, 2015 11:54 AM (hvf9s)
Oh, I see. Yeah, I can see how it could be funny to laugh at how that guy has rationalized his wife's infidelity into something about "feminism" and relinquishing his "control" over her sexuality.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 20, 2015 11:55 AM (/Ho8c)
I don't buy it. I've met guys like that in Oregon. They have less testosterone than Marilyn Monroe. They're completely submissive to the women in their lives.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:55 AM (39g3+)
But he announces he is here illegally to the entire US Press Corp?"
Thus my assertion that today's large scale politics = "sideshow"
It's all a game.
Posted by: anon a mouse at July 20, 2015 11:55 AM (C9pBZ)
Support, without all the pinching and inching where one does not want to be pinched and inched. I don't know why it took this far into (and near the end of) civilization to come up with this concept.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 11:48 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Toilet Paper and Disposable Diapers at July 20, 2015 11:55 AM (hvf9s)
"Donald Trump says he won't apologize for discrediting Arizona Senator as a 'War Hero.'" That's about as completely slanted as possible.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Wanna bet?:
McCain's response to Trump puts the huckster to shame
HotAir - Dustin Siggins
That's some fine Salem Comm blogging right there.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 20, 2015 11:56 AM (kdS6q)
https://goo.gl/FuZqa9
Posted by: physics geek at July 20, 2015 11:56 AM (MT22W)
http://tinyurl.com/nl23ho7
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:57 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 11:57 AM (sWgE+)
http://www.ufunk.net/en/insolite/star-wars-amy-schumer/
And better in the movie Heavy Metal.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 11:57 AM (zABgu)
Posted by: Paolo at July 20, 2015 11:57 AM (HstNY)
Yeah that's even worse, but you expect political slant from there. Facebook is allegedly neutral. Yes, stop laughing, you have to breathe, but that's what people think and how they present themselves.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:58 AM (39g3+)
Not the same at all Jake.
Posted by: Cheri at July 20, 2015 11:58 AM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Yo! at July 20, 2015 11:51 AM (W6iIX)
Hey now, no one looks good in their morning after walk of shame pics, and I'm no exception. Or should I call them morning after walker of shame pics?
Posted by: Hillary with a hangover at July 20, 2015 11:58 AM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 11:57 AM (zABgu)
Waaaaay better tits in Heavy Metal.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 11:59 AM (2Ojst)
Only 75? I'd go with 99 percent.
No, make that 99.9 percent.
Posted by: anon a mouse at July 20, 2015 11:50 AM (C9pBZ)
Grand Mufti Barry: High horses! Crusades! Jim Crow!!!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 20, 2015 11:59 AM (493sH)
He is a great Dad, (bringing) using , scaring , teaching -His children to break laws openly, Because He has been afforded an income , education/healtcare for children to raise children in America .
Posted by: willow at July 20, 2015 12:00 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Pathway Nes at July 20, 2015 12:01 PM (/WmRg)
Posted by: Grump928(c)
Some people like Trump, because he will touch the Third Rail of certain political issues. He's got a big mouth, and he's not afraid to use it.
I saw him speak at CPAC last year (televised on C-SPAN), where he was trying out his new populist rhetoric he is using now. The speech was rambling and all over the place, but you could see people connecting and starting to applaud what he was saying.
I don't know exactly what Trump's game is, but he does loathe Obama and his administration (but then, so does Hillary). He says the right kind of populist things attacking Obama's actions, without being orthodox conservative in philosophy.
Trump is not a conservative, but he is an American Populist. Like him or hate him, I think he does care about what is happening and is appalled at how destructive Obama has been.
McCain is a self - centered idiot, who ditched his first wife for Cindy to get at her beer fortune money (and because she was pretty hot, too).
Face it, most successful politicians these days are self -centered sociopaths, because a decent man with a conscience wouldn't survive five minutes in the present atmosphere of politics.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 20, 2015 12:01 PM (+1T7c)
But he announces he is here illegally to the entire US Press Corp?"
_____________________
Yes, he and his children are so terribly afraid of being deported that he drove 281 miles to jump in front of a t.v. camera and announce that he's in the U.S. illegally.
And his poor widdle kiddies are crying themselves to sleep at night because they're afraid mommy and daddy will be sent back to Mexico and they'll be stranded in the U.S. alone.
Except that mommy and daddy can take their U.S.-born kiddies home with them to Mexico, where the Mexican Nationality Act of 1998 provides that they will have all the rights and privileges of Mexican citizenship, regardless of the fact that they were born in the U.S. And they also get to keep their U.S. citizenship (they'll be dual citizens of both Mexico and the U.S. ), so they can keep all those juicy U.S. welfare benefits coming.
What an outrage, right? It's no wonder those poor kids are so upset!
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 20, 2015 12:01 PM (kGrdk)
Posted by: willow at July 20, 2015 12:01 PM (nqBYe)
Yeah, I think everyone likes that about him. Its just not enough to make anyone thoughtful want to vote for him.
I don't care who anyone votes for, or who wins, at this point. Its just the guy is plainly a huckster who is lying his ass off and it bothers me when people believe him.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 12:03 PM (39g3+)
You'll probably starve to death or live on the streets.
Posted by: willow at July 20, 2015 12:03 PM (nqBYe)
Holy Smokes on the Anthony Harvey story.
Also Insty had a great quote this weekend, I bet Paolo is not a feminist.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2015 12:03 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Paolo at July 20, 2015 11:57 AM (HstNY)
I can certainly understand why you would see it that way, "Paolo." In the not so distant future though, you will need to resort to rest area men's rooms for the kind of attention you are getting today from women who are married to limp men.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 12:04 PM (TOk1P)
I believe that when the Courts mandated that dual citizenship was legal here it was one more nail in the coffin of what America USED to be.
Posted by: BB Wolf at July 20, 2015 12:04 PM (qh617)
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of philanderers suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
Posted by: LizLem at July 20, 2015 12:04 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 20, 2015 12:05 PM (cygkw)
Good/bad news: Currently, he's the most efffective one that we got.
worsenews: We have absofuckinglutely no WAY of determining if what we got is actually ours or not.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 20, 2015 12:05 PM (Spluw)
You think Jeh Johnson would go along w/that?
He'd just order them to stand down.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 12:06 PM (NOIQH)
that he drove 281 miles to jump in front of a t.v. camera and announce
that he's in the U.S. illegally.
Fuck these fucking fucks.
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at July 20, 2015 12:07 PM (rHXGG)
Why? ICE is a limper d... than that guy writing about his wife and Paolo.
Posted by: anon a mouse at July 20, 2015 12:07 PM (C9pBZ)
kate who?
Posted by: Jeh Johnson at July 20, 2015 12:07 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2015 12:03 PM (ODxAs)
Depends on how you define "feminist." Does feminist = lets her pay for his meals? If so, feminist!
But if it has something to do with finding broads with no self-respect, who slobber over you more if you treat them like dirt, then.....
Posted by: BurtTC at July 20, 2015 12:07 PM (TOk1P)
What if he is not a real illegal but a true believing Soviet Justice Wanker with a snub-nosed .38 wanting to be the next Squeaky Fromm?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 12:07 PM (zABgu)
I'm so scared i've come to america and unbeknownst to me it was illegal and You people made me have a half a dozen children that You will not allow to leave with me if i must go home and go through the legal immigration process..
Posted by: willow at July 20, 2015 12:07 PM (nqBYe)
Now, what stands out in that group of "fact" from the MSM?
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 12:08 PM (NOIQH)
Same can be said for the other 17, 18, 19 candidates. The all are lying hucksters, it's a requirement for the job. I start with the premise that they are lying sacks of shit and work from there.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 12:08 PM (sWgE+)
He'd just order them to stand down.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 12:06 PM (NOIQH)
*****
Optics.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 20, 2015 12:09 PM (1eYr7)
Posted by: Hank at July 20, 2015 12:09 PM (hA1uV)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 12:03 PM
What bothers me is that so much of what Trump is saying just happens to be the truth, and people -- especially "conservative" people -- get all butthurt and defensive because the man is not up to the high standards they set for candidates. Like Rubio, or Christie, or Jeb!
They ignore his message because he is a self-serving, abrasive POS.
Tell me how that differs from the other candidates, please.
Posted by: MrScribbler at July 20, 2015 12:09 PM (rCmeG)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 12:09 PM (39g3+)
http://tinyurl.com/nl23ho7
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:57 AM (39g3+)
Hmmmm.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 20, 2015 12:10 PM (oKE6c)
Ok, but is it really necessary to insult bags of feces? I mean there's just going too far...
Posted by: anon a mouse at July 20, 2015 12:10 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 20, 2015 12:10 PM (ODxAs)
Walker should have responded by asking 2 questions:
1) Why are you okay with breaking US law?
2) Who sent you here to do this?
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 12:10 PM (ogYsy)
Tell me how that differs from the other candidates, please.
He's not much different, other than approach. But some people see through the other guys and can't seem capable of seeing through him. That I don't get.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 12:10 PM (39g3+)
what assholes.
Posted by: willow at July 20, 2015 12:11 PM (nqBYe)
Trump personally gave $1MM to help build the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial in NYC.
He talked about it and how much he loved the Vietnam vets in a speech he gave in Arkansas recently, before this fake maelstrom.
Once again, Trump tumps songbird McCain.
Has anyone actually researched McCain's history as a POW, where it is widely rumored that he did propaganda broadcasts for the VC??
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 12:11 PM (q5APL)
Or have someone speak at each stop, crying, who had a family member killed or injured by an illegal alien. Show the kids who lost a parent. Plenty of stories out there to tell that counteract the "all illegals are angels with sad puppy eyed kids, just trying to make a better life!"
And yes, I hate the gross manipulation. But it's effective and the only way to get the LIVs to actually think the issue through for once.
Posted by: LizLem at July 20, 2015 12:11 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 12:11 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: anon a mouse at July 20, 2015 12:12 PM (C9pBZ)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 12:03 PM (39g3+)
No one in his right mind wants him as the candidate. But if it came down to Sanders or Trump, or even Clinton or Trump ...
Let's pray it doesn't come to that.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 20, 2015 12:13 PM (oKE6c)
You think Jeh Johnson would go along w/that?
He'd just order them to stand down.
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Just have some guys wear windbreakers with ICE written on the back. Problem solved.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at July 20, 2015 12:13 PM (oDCMR)
Voces de la Frontera, a pro-illegal group in Milwaukee that's affiliated with a bunch of other pinko and and anti-Walker groups.
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at July 20, 2015 12:13 PM (rHXGG)
Posted by: willow at July 20, 2015 12:13 PM (nqBYe)
I think he responded well but that would have been entertaining.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 12:13 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 12:13 PM (zABgu)
Posted by: Soothsayer
I thought that speaking truth to power was a good thing
Posted by: Jose the Plumber of the US welfare system at July 20, 2015 12:14 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: LizLem at July 20, 2015 12:14 PM (hvf9s)
If it wasn't going to be 103F in the shade when I go to the Iowa State Fair next month I would do this.
(What's that, officer? It's the jacket from my Ice Cream Enthusiasts club.)
Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at July 20, 2015 12:14 PM (rHXGG)
Me, too.
And yet...other kids suffer because their parents commit crimes that leave the family in ruins - why are these kids worthy of 1st class treatment like free tuition? I would prefer we (the government) give that to kids of military personnel and police officers KIA.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 12:15 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Hank at July 20, 2015 12:15 PM (hA1uV)
sociopaths, because a decent man with a conscience wouldn't survive five
minutes in the present atmosphere of politics.
Burt TC - Nailed it.
Who do you want sitting at the negotiating table with Iran? with Putin?
A psychoanalytic,bowing apologist? A simpering wimp with hurt feelings demanding apologies in video clips and Twitter?
I am not sold on Trump, but I defeinitely see where he is going.
I use the Frank J measuring stick :
Who is the candidate crazy enough to nuke the moon?
Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 12:15 PM (+70b8)
And yes, I hate the gross manipulation. But it's effective and the only way to get the LIVs to actually think the issue through for once.
Posted by: LizLem at July 20, 2015 12:11 PM (hvf9s)
Yep. Otherwise known as the Trump gambit. So, we can't possibly have them do something like this, because then they would be a Meanie McMeanster like Trump.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 20, 2015 12:15 PM (cygkw)
They can't help themselves with their silliness.
Posted by: Nip Sip at July 20, 2015 12:15 PM (S0Cig)
family member killed or injured by an illegal alien. Show the kids who
lost a parent. Plenty of stories out there to tell that counteract the
"all illegals are angels with sad puppy eyed kids, just trying to make a
better life!"
And yes, I hate the gross manipulation. But it's effective and the
only way to get the LIVs to actually think the issue through for once.
Posted by: LizLem at July 20, 2015 12:11 PM (hvf9s)
A much better idea. Busting the Hydroback-American on the spot would just generate sympathy for him and all other illegal aliens. But showcasing victims of crimes committed by illegal aliens will appeal to the LIVs. And yes, it is emotionally manipulative, but we've got to start doing that and leave off with the charts, tables, and graphs. Most people lack the intelligence, reading skills, or the interest to plow through substantive information.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 20, 2015 12:15 PM (oKE6c)
If McCain's daddy hadn't been Commander, United States Pacific Command nobody would know who he is. For that matter probably would have been pushed out of the navy.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 12:15 PM (sWgE+)
Thanks, HR. Knew it was a set-up, political theater.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 12:16 PM (NOIQH)
he and his children are so terribly afraid of being deported that he drove 281 miles to jump in front of a t.v. camera and announce that he's in the U.S. illegally.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer
Well, Mexi-Dad thought Walker was Ted Cruz and figured -- free teddy bears. You know kids. Just like having to stop by McDonalds for a Happy meal.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 20, 2015 12:16 PM (kdS6q)
2) Who sent you here to do this?
3) Who do you work for?
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 12:16 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at July 20, 2015 12:16 PM (nqiq9)
International Chess Expo...what, why is everyone running away?
Posted by: Clueless guy in ICE jacket at July 20, 2015 12:16 PM (hvf9s)
If it wasn't going to be 103F in the shade when I go to the Iowa State Fair next month I would do this.
(What's that, officer? It's the jacket from my Ice Cream Enthusiasts club.)
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Simple, wear baseball caps with ICE spelled out and wraparound sunglasses. It would help to carry a walkie talkie on your belt.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at July 20, 2015 12:17 PM (oDCMR)
http://tinyurl.com/nl23ho7
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 11:57 AM (39g3+)
Holy shit! I guess only radical black lives matter and unpersons don't have the right to liver.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 20, 2015 12:17 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Michael E. Mann at July 20, 2015 12:18 PM (E5UB0)
What would make me Teh Happy right now: if ALL the other wannabes thought I, and a bazillion other voters, were lining up eagerly for The Donald, besieging nearby Early Voting locations and waving "Trump '16" banners.
What would not make me Teh Happy in '16: actually having to cast a vote for Trump.
That would make it certain the country is on its last circle of the drainpipe....
Posted by: MrScribbler at July 20, 2015 12:18 PM (rCmeG)
Missed the Walker thing - which comment # has a link?
Trump. Look, it's surely a vain hope (like all others that even remain), but if only he would have an epiphany. That would be this: no way in hell I'm gonna be the GOP candidate, but I can have a huge impact on who *isn't* the candidate, and why.
You can all guess the particular issue he should make the centerpiece, no the only element, of his "campaign". (it's actually more than a "particular issue", as it really engages almost all of the serious fundamental rot and degradation that has hollowed out our civic cultute)
Oh well, one can dream (no pun intended).
Posted by: rhomboid at July 20, 2015 12:18 PM (QDnY+)
Yeah this is absolutely true, I'm sure of it. The McCain name, had, up until his point, been a hallmark of leadership and Naval excellence. John McCain crapped all over that and gave us vapid twit Meghan.
Or have someone speak at each stop, crying, who had a family member killed or injured by an illegal alien. Show the kids who lost a parent.
Conceptually appealing, but difficult to sell unless your campaign focal point is fighting amnesty and working for real immigration reform.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 12:19 PM (39g3+)
Kinda like rolling down the window as you drive through a Home Depot parking lot and yelling, "La migra!"
Good times, good times.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 20, 2015 12:20 PM (oKE6c)
He talked about it and how much he loved the Vietnam vets in a speech he gave in Arkansas recently, before this fake maelstrom."
I didn't know that. Thank you for providing it.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 20, 2015 12:21 PM (NjiZL)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/07/19/
scott-walker-tells-undocumented-worker-that-immigrants-must-follow-the-law/
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 12:21 PM (NOIQH)
Kinda like rolling down the window as you drive through a Home Depot parking lot and yelling, "La migra!"
Good times, good times.
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Excellent way to promote cardio exercise for our obese and diabetes suffering economic immigrants.
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at July 20, 2015 12:22 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 12:19 PM (39g3+)
Then engage in more theater. Have your victim standing by, so if/when the Hydroback-American runs his yap, you scan the audience, find your victim, and ask er to come up and tell her story, with appropriate sobbing.
If no Hydroback-American turns up, don't use it.
Yeah, manipulative and emotionally exploitative, but we've got to fight fire with fire.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 20, 2015 12:23 PM (oKE6c)
Have to remember that next time I go to 7-11.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 12:23 PM (sWgE+)
At least when shit breaks down and decomposes it turns into something useful. Have not seen any evidence of anything similar from that doddering old nincompoop.
McCain reminds of an episode of "Tales from the Darkside" where the grandpa dies the day before and refuses to acknowledge it. ("A Case of the Stubborns").
http://tinyurl.com/o9bh6m8
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at July 20, 2015 12:23 PM (nqiq9)
mad as hell that Parents USE them to get around the law.
>>>
This is a lot more abusive than the free range parenting crap CPS worries about.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 20, 2015 12:23 PM (81UWZ)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 12:19 PM (39g3+)
*****
Not true, IMO.BRunning on actually enforcing existing laws would be enough.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 20, 2015 12:23 PM (cygkw)
Posted by: MrScribbler at July 20, 2015 12:24 PM (rCmeG)
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 12:11 PM (q5APL)
==========================
Insanity. McVain is a despicable politician but you want to invent bullshit about his incredibly difficult years in the Hanoi Hilton? Seriously?
Before you judge those years go walk a mile in his shoes. Better yet-- Just stop this insane nonsense, and focus on his politics.
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 12:24 PM (DkJ4E)
Posted by: Jay Guevara
Back in the heady days of the 90s I briefly was acquainted with a guy who was a field surveyor in Florida. He told a story of when he worked for a company on a big job that had several crews working in a rural area. Each crew had an unmarked, white Suburban equipped with white strobes.
Apparently, one of the things they did for fun on lunch breaks was race in a convoy into a small town with their lights flashing, slam on the brakes in the middle of town and powerslide to a stop, then watch all the locals scatter in a panic.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 20, 2015 12:25 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: OneEyedaJack at July 20, 2015 12:25 PM (XmOA9)
More effective if you have them talk first, negating any later attempts. But then your campaign becomes a focus on immigration to the exclusion everything else you say or are interested in, and that's problematic.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 12:25 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 12:19 PM (39g3+)
Donald's " You're Fired!" approach to > 60% of the federal immigration bureaucracy would help grease the skids.
Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 12:26 PM (+70b8)
For all of us lambasting Trump, and I'm one of them, trust me, I do question whether any other candidate has what it takes to win the general.
Perhaps Walker.
But guys, I would ask you to listen to two of Trump's speeches, both about an hour long. One was to an Arkansas dinner crowd. The second was to the Chicago Trib editorial board.
I too thought that this run was kind of a fake thing, but wholly shit were these speeches impressive. More than most I've seen from other candidates.
Find both speeches/videos as the conservative treehouse blog. Which has pointed out that no matter how much we love other candidates, only Trump has a chance of beating Jeb in primary, because of how the machine has set up the elector process in Florida.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 12:26 PM (q5APL)
shoes. Better yet-- Just stop this insane nonsense, and focus on his
politics.
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 12:24 PM
I have no beef with McCain in his Viet Nam years. The only ones who can comment, IMO, are those who went through it as well, and I didn't.
What he has done since becoming a Senate Welfare Queen is fair game. And it's enough to regard him with intense loathing.
Posted by: MrScribbler at July 20, 2015 12:27 PM (rCmeG)
___________________
Except that then Holder sends some DOJ goons out to arrest them for impersonating federal law enforcement officers (a felony).
This is the problem when people vote lawless commie a-holes into power.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 20, 2015 12:27 PM (kGrdk)
Posted by: ThunderB at July 20, 2015 12:28 PM (zOTsN)
Where are the gun control folks on this? I would have though they would be accusing the parents of irresponsibility as they did the CT shooter's mom.
Oh that's right, they just made up all this stuff as a "squirrel!" to make him look like CT, Vo, SC, AZ shooters. Nope, no jihadi here, move along!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 12:28 PM (NOIQH)
Rather than go hysterical, you should look at the facts. Read the Tokyo Rose post done awhile back re McCain.
Just open your mind. I'm not saying it's correct or not, but it's information that's out there. Make up your own mind.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 12:28 PM (q5APL)
how is this not a recession, honestly?
http://tinyurl.com/nz6tcva
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 12:28 PM (39g3+)
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Since he was being tortured at the time, I think we have to give him a pass for that.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 20, 2015 12:30 PM (kGrdk)
Trump is beat Jeb like a drum now. Hence the long knifes for Trump. The media wants a Bush v Clinton runoff again and by golly they are going to do what ever it takes to get it.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 12:30 PM (sWgE+)
Col. Edison Miller USMC and Robert Schweitzer fit the bill with their 'Bob and Ed Show.'
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2010/10/gov-moonbeams-traitor.html
John McCain was beaten by the North Vietnamese guards one time for just trying to say hi to Miller.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 12:30 PM (zABgu)
Funny?
Bruce Jenner is an avid golfer. And no doubt youll see him soon in his women golf garb.
But you can bet your bippies that he'll swing that driver Like.A.Man.
Bang! Zoom! that golfball's gonna go 250-280 yards!
He's a woman, my ass.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 12:30 PM (ogYsy)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at July 20, 2015 12:30 PM (iQIUe)
I agree. The VC knew how to disburse pain and I'm sure they gave McCain a full dose and then some. McCain's an objectionable asshole in every way, but he does deserve respect for enduring that HH hellhole.
Attacking his service record will only increase his stature and ensure he is re-elected.
They need to go after his politics, especially his hypocrisy on vets benefits and the VA. There is more than enough material there to sink the rat bastard.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at July 20, 2015 12:30 PM (nqiq9)
Google Tokyo Rose and McCain and it will come up. Done a long time ago by Ron Unz. Documentation is linked therein.
He also references Sydney Schandberg's article, Pulitzer winning author formerly of NYT on all of this.
Not saying I'm convinced either way but I've never even heard about this until today.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 12:30 PM (q5APL)
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And teeing off from the ladies tees.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 20, 2015 12:31 PM (8XRCm)
From Drudge.
If you like your dishes clean, you can have your dishes clean.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 20, 2015 12:31 PM (XUKZU)
a woman acquaintance of his said that he told her middle school girls were hot
based on that, and that the head of his foundation was arrested for child porn, they searched his home
they did not arrest him
they found nothing
Posted by: ThunderB at July 20, 2015 12:32 PM (zOTsN)
1. One of the very first terrorist groups in history was the sicarii, which targeted Romans and Roman sympathizers. What nationality were they?
JEWS!!!
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 20, 2015 12:32 PM (fWAjv)
The claim that McCain was tortured also has been questioned if not outright discredited by the guys that were there alongside McCain.
The only one who says McCain was tortured is John McCain.
Take that for what it's worth.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 12:32 PM (q5APL)
http://tinyurl.com/nz6tcva
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 12:28 PM (39g3+)
It's a depression and we have been in it since 2009. Real unemployment is hoovering around 20% and so is inflation from the wholesale printing of money.
And I have been to Vietnam so I can talk. McShitty sucks.
Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 20, 2015 12:32 PM (GpgJl)
It is obvious, at least to me, that obama's FBI is coaching Abdulooser's family.
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 12:32 PM (ogYsy)
I couldn't have taken half the stuff he did during his time at the Hilton. Complete pass. Fro 2007ish forward is another story.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 12:32 PM (sWgE+)
Perot got a lot of votes because the MSM called the election for Clinton before polls closed on the west coast. Since our votes didn't matter, we went with the third party candidate.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 20, 2015 12:33 PM (Lqy/e)
What he has done since becoming a Senate Welfare Queen is fair game. And it's enough to regard him with intense loathing.
Well said, McCain is a pretty awful and unlikable person in his politics (and a lousy flier, from all reports). But I will not criticize his POW experience.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 12:33 PM (39g3+)
"Fuck that puto! Fuck that puto!"
-George Lopez leading crowd of rabble-rousers chanting against Trump.
"Fuck that puto! Fuck that puto!"
Posted by: Doctor Fish at July 20, 2015 12:33 PM (IzUrJ)
Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 20, 2015 12:34 PM (GpgJl)
A little creepy (if he actually said it) but not illegal to say. Now, high school girls on the other hand...
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 12:34 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 12:34 PM (q5APL)
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Stupidity gets under my skin and this crap has to stop. You might not be aware of it, but McCain ran for President once upon a time and the press and the Democrats did all they could to undermine his war years. Unsuccessfully.
The story of those years has been vetted by a hostile press and politicians willing to play as dirty as possible.
So "open your mind", go read the history, and quit crapping all over your keyboard.
McVain is fair game for his terrible politics. Beyond that no one needs to go, and inventing tin foil hat theories of the history of the Hanoi Hilton is just plain Hector-level LSD trips.
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 12:34 PM (DkJ4E)
From Drudge.
If you like your dishes clean, you can have your dishes clean.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 20, 2015 12:31 PM (XUKZU)
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read that one this morning.
So... now that they've federally mandated crappy dishwashing detergent by removing the tri sodium phospahates..... we will now have equally federally mandated crappy machines to go along with it.
hmmmmm...... between this and the federally mandated shit left in the federally mandated low flush toilet... Im beginining to think the uptick in e coli and salmonella is a federally mandated epidemic the only federally mandated health care can solve.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 20, 2015 12:35 PM (8XRCm)
Before the Maccabees?
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at July 20, 2015 12:35 PM (nqiq9)
Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 12:35 PM (+70b8)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Nor will I. What little information I have about that indicates he behaved very admirably and honorably as a POW.
But, he's been awful as a Senator.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 20, 2015 12:35 PM (/Ho8c)
I dunno.
What I do know is that McCain's Hanoi Hotel experiences have been drummed into peoples' heads for a long time. Trying to subvert it in anyway is likely a losing proposition.
There's a ton of shit about McCain in his political career to beat him to death with.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 20, 2015 12:35 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 20, 2015 12:34 PM (GpgJl)
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You LOOKIN to get yellled at again????
Posted by: fixerupper at July 20, 2015 12:36 PM (8XRCm)
If you like your dishes clean, you can have your dishes clean.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 20, 2015 12:31 PM (XUKZU)
They won't be happy until we're beating our laundry on rocks in the stream, and digging the dirt with sharpened sticks for subsistence farming.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 12:36 PM (2Ojst)
Guys, I've seen quite a bit of rumbling in the POW world about McCain and understand why now that I've done the research.
Let's just say that if you google Tokyo Rose and McCain and just read that piece there seems to be more beneath the surface here.
We can make up our own minds, but before we say we're not going to criticize his time as a POW, shouldn't we have all sides of what that entailed?
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 12:36 PM (q5APL)
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 12:36 PM (zABgu)
Ace is dotting the i's and crossing the t's in his next Trump post..
Posted by: Soothsayer at July 20, 2015 12:37 PM (ogYsy)
I guess I'm the dummie. Talking back to trolls is a fools game. Sorry all.
Posted by: MTF at July 20, 2015 12:38 PM (DkJ4E)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 20, 2015 12:38 PM (fWAjv)
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The name Iscariot as in Judas Iscariot means member of the sicarii. And sicarii is derived from a type of dagger used to assassinate Romans and collaborators.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 20, 2015 12:38 PM (XUKZU)
Exactly. McCain is a turd, but that time I won't criticize. And doing so is really scummy.
"George Lopez"
Who?
About 15 years ago he had a funny CD. Hasn't been very funny since then.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 12:39 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 12:36 PM (2Ojst)
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No. EPA bans runoff because "navigatable waters" and "snail darter".
And youll need a permit to farm.
But.... the soilent green pate' distributed by Planned Parenthood comes with Ritz Crackers.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 20, 2015 12:39 PM (8XRCm)
Thanks & Trump is a degenerate clown. That's all for now.
Drew
Posted by: madnavatc at July 20, 2015 12:39 PM (+1gL4)
Posted by: Garrett at July 20, 2015 12:39 PM (u8PjN)
"In The Small Hours"
.......................
*ring, ring, ring, BEEP* "Hello, the time is 3:00am, you've reached Hillary's voicemail, your call is being redirected to the Chicken Bone Saloon..." *BEEP*
Posted by: wth at July 20, 2015 12:39 PM (wAQA5)
Even assuming he acted well as a POW, he's been a piece of shit since. And has fucked over the POW investigation of who was left behind, as Politburo documents uncovered in 1992 show that surely some were still over there.
But McCain slammed that investigation shut. So for that, and his innumerable other actions as a politician, fuck him.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 12:39 PM (q5APL)
Posted by: serf in Chillary's America at July 20, 2015 12:39 PM (ZtFr+)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 20, 2015 12:38 PM (fWAjv)
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Ummm Anne.....
or Jenner???
Posted by: fixerupper at July 20, 2015 12:40 PM (8XRCm)
Actually, I don't see any posts by ace or anyone else waiting in th4e queue.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 20, 2015 12:40 PM (qkRol)
Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 20, 2015 12:34 PM (GpgJl)
It's best not to.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at July 20, 2015 12:40 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 20, 2015 12:40 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 20, 2015 12:34 PM (GpgJl)
Where all da white Ewoks at?
Posted by: Sheriff Bart at July 20, 2015 12:40 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 12:39 PM (39g3+)
His TV show was funny and his TV wife was hawt.
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at July 20, 2015 12:41 PM (nqiq9)
"Fuck that puto! Fuck that puto!"
...........................
Why all the hate? I'm just way out here minding my own business.
Posted by: Pluto at July 20, 2015 12:41 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 20, 2015 12:38 PM (fWAjv)
Good. What he did was battery and assault.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 12:41 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: fixerupper at July 20, 2015 12:41 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 12:42 PM (+70b8)
pg 189. American Patriot: The Life and Wars of Colonel Bud Day. Robert Coram. Back Bay Books. 2007.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 12:43 PM (zABgu)
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at July 20, 2015 12:40 PM (vgIRn)
He's dancing in front of a mirror wearing nothing but a hobo-skin suit and listening to Goodbye Horses.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 12:43 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 20, 2015 12:43 PM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 20, 2015 12:40 PM (qkRol)
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Thats because he's writing it in Word.
Posted by: fixerupper at July 20, 2015 12:43 PM (8XRCm)
"Let's See What I Can Produce With Just 'Piss Yellow' and 'Baby Shit Brown'."
Posted by: Sharkman at July 20, 2015 12:43 PM (72D6h)
McCain... The story of those years has been vetted by a hostile press and politicians willing to play as dirty as possible.
Posted by: MTF
Yeah! What he said.
Posted by: A hostile press and politicians willing to play as dirty as possible who never picked up on Dennis Hastert's hobby of kiddie diddling.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 20, 2015 12:43 PM (kdS6q)
-George Lopez leading crowd of rabble-rousers chanting against Trump.
Sounds like Neil deGrasse Tyson
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 20, 2015 12:44 PM (W5DcG)
Posted by: Insomniac
And with video evidence, no?
Posted by: Moderate Salami, mourning our Republic at July 20, 2015 12:43 PM (/Ho8c)
Yep. Grabbing somebody by the neck and telling them you're going to send them out in an ambulance while being recorded for TV isn't a real bright move.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 12:44 PM (2Ojst)
Think about it. Yeah, Trump shouldn't have said what he said but these fuckers are worse. They're trying to use support for the military to get us to vote for the destroyers.
Who is worse?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 20, 2015 12:45 PM (oFCZn)
"Let's See What I Can Produce With Just 'Piss Yellow' and 'Baby Shit Brown'."
Alternate alternate title: Saturday Morning Hangover
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 12:45 PM (qBbz7)
Posted by: some random meathead at July 20, 2015 12:45 PM (+70b8)
He was speaking off the cuff giving McVain the business and misworded his diatribe and within seconds quickly corrected himself!
In the meantime, the policies of John McVain are getting Americans killed and raped by people who shouldn't even be here.
So who is the bad guy here?
McVain is on TV today saying him calling people "crazies" is a term of endearment! Honorable Hero McVain is a liar.
Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at July 20, 2015 12:46 PM (COpZ4)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 12:43 PM (2Ojst)
Complete with the Caitlyn tuck.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at July 20, 2015 12:46 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: Zoey Tur at July 20, 2015 12:46 PM (HstNY)
Phoenix New Times, interviewing the Hoppers:
The Hoppers have located two former POWs who claim they were senior ranking officers at the time McCain says he was tortured in solitary confinement. Ted Guy and Gordon "Swede" Larson both tell New Times that while they could not guarantee that McCain was not physically harmed, they doubted it.
"Between the two of us, it's our belief, and to the best of our knowledge, that no prisoner was beaten or harmed physically in that camp [known as "The Plantation"]," Larson says. ". . . My only contention with the McCain deal is that while he was at The Plantation, to the best of my knowledge and Ted's knowledge, he was not physically abused in any way. No one was in that camp. It was the camp that people were released from."
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 12:46 PM (q5APL)
Posted by: Insomniac at July 20, 2015 12:44 PM (2Ojst)
Special snowflake class though.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 20, 2015 12:46 PM (fWAjv)
Neither is cutting your dick off, but hey.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 12:46 PM (qBbz7)
it claims he was not tortured at all. It point a a video the North Vietnamese released with McCain saying he got very good medical care. I have seen that video. he is lying down when he gives it
Posted by: ThunderB at July 20, 2015 12:46 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: "Shorty" Guzman at July 20, 2015 12:47 PM (wAQA5)
Thank goodness I won't live to see my Gorn decendants and their clumsy dance moves.
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at July 20, 2015 12:47 PM (uPxUo)
Stupidity gets under my skin and this crap has to stop. You might not be aware of it, but McCain ran for President once upon a time and the press and the Democrats did all they could to undermine his war years. Unsuccessfully.
The story of those years has been vetted by a hostile press and politicians willing to play as dirty as possible.
OK, that's fine.
Makes one mighty curious though that it's that same press that is now acting all outraged that anyone would dare question McCain's military record though, doesn't it?
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at July 20, 2015 12:47 PM (eytER)
Actually, I don't see any posts by ace or anyone else waiting in th4e queue.
Posted by: OregonMuse
Thats because he's writing it in Word.
Posted by: fixerupper
"This is Ace. Hold the front page and get me the rewrite desk. Got a hot story that needs some ink. And make it snappy. I'm running low on dimes for the phone."
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 20, 2015 12:47 PM (kdS6q)
Also from WZ, Trump explains religion.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 20, 2015 12:47 PM (XUKZU)
If they take each other down it works for me.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2015 12:48 PM (OGm46)
Sidenote: the article I linked to was from March 25, 1999. The book you quoted was from 2007, the year McCain was running.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 12:49 PM (q5APL)
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W T actual Fukc???
Yeah.... McCain cant raise his arms above his head because of the unfortunate accident with the rings in the gymnastics class the NVA put on for the POWS.
Im not a fan John..... but ...... DAMN......
Posted by: fixerupper at July 20, 2015 12:49 PM (8XRCm)
Now unlock your balls from whatever container they are secured and find some fucking courage to do the right thing for once in your miserable political career.
Until then, you fuck yourselves straight to hell and back.
This is our last chance to put the country back onto a hard working proud citizenry because when generation perpetually offended gets old enough to make decisions, we are all fucked.
Posted by: melodicmetal1 at July 20, 2015 12:49 PM (MV2jA)
Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 20, 2015 12:34 PM (GpgJl)
Trying to grill another ribeye?
I hear Ewoks get confused when handling their meat....
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at July 20, 2015 12:49 PM (nqiq9)
McCain being a bastard doesn't make what Trump said OK. How many times does this have to be repeated? Isn't it obvious?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 12:49 PM (39g3+)
First you said he caused the Forrestal fire. Then he did radio broadcasts for the North Vietnamese. Then he was not abused. And now you are saying 'well he was not always abused.'
Go buzz off and peddle your garbage elsewhere.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 12:50 PM (zABgu)
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 12:50 PM (q5APL)
Not one fuck will I give. mcCain is a jerk who went along with and continues to go along with the political theater with Iran.
I for one don't need this horseshit about whether he was or was not mistreated in the Vietnam war over 40 years ago.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 20, 2015 12:50 PM (Spluw)
John Kerry (D) - Naval Office and Vietnam Vet
Bob Kerry (D) - Navy Seal
Max Cleland (D) - US Army veteran of the Vietnam War, a recipient of the Silver Star and the Bronze Star for valorous actions in combat
Senator Jim Webb (D-VA) -- rifle platoon and company commander with the
Fifth Marine Regiment in the An Hoa Basin west of Danang; was awarded
the Navy Cross, the Silver Star Medal, two Bronze Star Medals, and two
Purple Hearts
Representative Jack Murtha (D-PA) - distinguished 37-year
career in the U.S. Marine Corps, Bronze Star and two Purple Hearts,
retired from the Marine Corps Reserve as a colonel in 1990.
Posted by: some random meathead - just sayin' at July 20, 2015 12:51 PM (+70b8)
Posted by: Jeb! at July 20, 2015 12:51 PM (W5DcG)
Of course people wouldn't get beatings at the plantation if it was a camp for release. You don't release prisons that are all broken up. Bad pub.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 12:51 PM (sWgE+)
the counterpunch magazine article itself relies on Alex Jones quotes
Posted by: ThunderB at July 20, 2015 12:52 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: guy who always yells for the Hall Monitor at July 20, 2015 12:52 PM (wAQA5)
Can you ever just talk without attacking people? I mean seriously, give me a break.
Facts are hard to deal with, but not even looking at them is ridiculous. GGE said McCain had nothing to do with Forrestal. Ok, I wasn't there, but there are plenty of folks who said that he wet started extreme and that fired the missile behind him.
If it's discredited that account fine, but it's not to say it doesn't exist.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 12:52 PM (q5APL)
http://tinyurl.com/nmgmaco
Two Couples at two different times Ambushed By Group Of Men While Walking Down Detroit Street, Stripped Of Clothes And Sexually Assaulted
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 20, 2015 12:52 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, the Highlander at July 20, 2015 12:52 PM (COpZ4)
Posted by: Ace's Mom at July 20, 2015 12:53 PM (vgIRn)
"The story of those years has been vetted by a hostile press and politicians willing to play as dirty as possible."
I recall Family Guy making fun ofMcCain's POW time. I think it was called the McCain Experience or Ride or something.
Peter jumps into a small bamboo cage, gets poked with some bamboo poles, then starts crying and says he wants to be president.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 20, 2015 12:53 PM (8marX)
Oh, the press loves McCain, when he's not the GOP candidate. They loved him right up until he was the nominee. And they can't stand Trump.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 12:53 PM (39g3+)
Hopefully, he's not writing some manufactured outrage post trying to get us rubes to stop talking about Trump like an actual candidate.
Posted by: jwest at July 20, 2015 12:53 PM (P/xrJ)
Every time I see that asshole on the Today show, I think of the dumb sap at the strip club who thinks the girls REALLY like him.
Posted by: melodicmetal1 at July 20, 2015 12:53 PM (MV2jA)
fat slob Michael Moore as proof of being a war criminal
not the best site ever
Posted by: ThunderB at July 20, 2015 12:54 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at July 20, 2015 12:54 PM (HstNY)
Jesse Ventura (slime) - Navy Seal
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at July 20, 2015 12:54 PM (nqiq9)
The NVA was going to let him die till they found out who daddy was. Then they moved heaven and earth to keep him alive.
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 12:55 PM (sWgE+)
Posted by: ThunderB at July 20, 2015 12:56 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: prescient11
Fact: you're dredging up shit from the Vietnam war.
"Trump will get democrats to vote for him in the general"
"I know for sure that he'll build the fence"
Fuck off.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 20, 2015 12:57 PM (Spluw)
Stop. Just stop. Anna does not attack people constantly. If she's attacked you in any way, given her track record and person here... maybe that's a good time for some self examination.
By the way, how can we get in on this sweet Trump cash you're apparently getting?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 20, 2015 12:57 PM (39g3+)
My sentiments exactly.
Anyway, put aside the lefty sources, June 6, 1969 Stars and Stripes source is where that McCain tape is referenced.
But in the end, this is all just a sideshow. I, like so many others, never even though about questioning McCain's service and didn't think there were any controversy linked to it.
Now I know at least the full range of the claims out there.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 12:57 PM (q5APL)
Posted by: some random meathead - just sayin' at July 20, 2015 12:51 PM (+70b
Jesse Ventura (slime) - Navy Seal
Yeah . Forgot him. And I am sure many others.
We owe them a debt for their service.
That debt is cancelled the instant they try to collect on it for personal or political gain.
Posted by: some random meathead - just sayin' at July 20, 2015 12:58 PM (+70b8)
Day was a Marine in the Pacific in WWII. After the war he joined the USAF. Saw combat in Korea. In Vietnam he was handed the craziest mission ever for someone to lead - Misty FAC.
It was during a high speed low level recee mission in an F-100F Super Sabre when the Gomers blew him out of the air. The ejection broke his arm. And when the North Vietnamese captured him, they tortured him in the field.
According to your criteria since only Day was there, how can we know he was tortured?
Bud Day won the Medal of Honor for his stay in the Hanoi Hilton. During the Swift Boat incident Day and McCain were on opposite sides. Day was attacking Kerry. But Day also said in interviews him and McCain were still friends.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 20, 2015 12:58 PM (zABgu)
Posted by: "Shorty" Guzman at July 20, 2015 12:58 PM (wAQA5)
**************
That always turns into something I have to repent of.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at July 20, 2015 12:58 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: Alex Jones at July 20, 2015 12:58 PM (HstNY)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 20, 2015 12:58 PM (qBbz7)
Posted by: Cucky McCucksalot at July 20, 2015 12:59 PM (NCeiM)
Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 20, 2015 12:59 PM (GpgJl)
Posted by: prescient11
From 1969. Jesus you are an idiot. We were talking about Iran getting nuclear weapons in 2015.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 20, 2015 12:59 PM (Spluw)
http://tinyurl.com/nmgmaco
Two Couples at two different times Ambushed By Group Of Men While Walking Down Detroit Street, Stripped Of Clothes And Sexually Assaulted
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 20, 2015 12:52 PM (fWAjv)
Race unknown.
Posted by: Miss Scarlett at July 20, 2015 01:00 PM (c40s0)
Because they're emboldened bullies.
Like Dan Savage, so-called bullying expert (as in taking the mantel of a victim and decrying bullying), screaming at Christian students who were offended by his attacks on Christians during a school speech.
Or like the SSM activist screaming a Texas Governor at an airport gate.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 20, 2015 01:00 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Vic - Republicans help Obama commit treason at July 20, 2015 01:00 PM (GpgJl)
Seconded. Anna has been a consistent, reliable commenter for quite a while. Not to mention she's also a friend to raptors and proficient with IED's (incognito Emu dispatches).
Posted by: 1bulwetweft at July 20, 2015 01:00 PM (nqiq9)
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Some have looked into it but a lot is obfuscated. Its known he did at least one, and that's known out of his own admission, but its probably too much to say he did lots of them.
There were two senior officer POWs who claimed that McCain was not, or barely, tortured and that he had made more broadcasts. McCain says he never reported to them; don't know whether they knew each other personally.
Any time somebody tries to investigate it all seriously it gets shouted down from many quarters who all insist that one do *not* look at that history. Its too crude, you're an unfeeling unpatriotic monster, etc etc.
Posted by: Bigby's Itchy Fingers at July 20, 2015 01:00 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 20, 2015 01:01 PM (8marX)
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 10:38 AM (sWgE+)
Hell, show up, with an effigy of Castro to burn. With any luck, you might be able to bust some Commie heads.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2015 01:02 PM (+y3Tj)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 20, 2015 01:02 PM (W5DcG)
Well, I don't know anything re McCain's stuff, just citing what's out there. As far as the wall and Trump's appeal in the general, those are my opinions but I think they're pretty strong.
Other than Trump who can do it, Walker?? Do we trust Walker pretty well? I really like the guy, him and Cruz, but I just don't know in the general.
C Taylor:
I like Anna as well and have always enjoyed her posts, but I'm just bringing up some stuff that I had never even heard of and everyone freaks out. I'm not saying it's 100% accurate but it is interesting and I wasn't aware that there was actually quite a bit of controversy.
But regardless, I do think it's a distraction and it's best to move on. Now let's see if the dem and gope media/operatives do the same.
I doubt it.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 01:02 PM (q5APL)
Posted by: ThunderB at July 20, 2015 01:02 PM (zOTsN)
There's over $18 trillion reasons to call you an idiot.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 20, 2015 01:02 PM (Spluw)
Posted by: no good deed at July 20, 2015 10:39 AM (GgxVX)
It wasn't the breathing so much, but the drool falling on her boobies.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2015 01:03 PM (+y3Tj)
Posted by: wrg500 at July 20, 2015 12:55 PM (sWgE+)
This is exactly correct and little known fact.
McCain fucked up his shoulder in the crash and didn't receive the immediate medical attention required to fix it properly. NVA did apparently "torture" him initially, but shortly thereafter found out who he was.
His supporters and the media would like to spin a tale of McCain being tortured for five years, while he refused to take an early release. Makes a nice a story, but not the actual case.
Posted by: jwest at July 20, 2015 01:04 PM (P/xrJ)
Posted by: prescient11
Neither you or I KNOW that "trump can do it".
Keep fucking some other chicken. Not buying your bullshit.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 20, 2015 01:04 PM (Spluw)
They made him out to look like some sort of saint in The Killing Fields (sort of although he took some shit for not getting Dith Pran out), but wasn't he an uberliberal type?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 20, 2015 01:04 PM (oFCZn)
Yep. Just throwing it out there for discussion.
I honestly hate McCain, but didn't know all this background crap, I simply assumed he had an unquestioned, honorable record as a vet.
There is some controversy there, so just was throwing it out there to discuss.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 01:06 PM (q5APL)
Posted by: ThunderB at July 20, 2015 01:06 PM (zOTsN)
Not sure, I haven't read that article yet.
Blue Hen:
I've gone from Rubio to Walker to Cruz. I'm not even in the Trump camp yet, just desperately trying to figure this out and right now there's only one guy throwing punches, not only to the dems but to the backstabbers GOPe pieces of shit like whackobird McCain who lies saying "crazies" is a term of affection.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 01:08 PM (q5APL)
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 01:09 PM (q5APL)
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 01:10 PM (q5APL)
I think he is one of the first that came up with the phrase "jobs Americans just won't do" in justifying amnesty. I think he really hates Americans.
Posted by: Ken at July 20, 2015 01:10 PM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 20, 2015 01:12 PM (oFCZn)
Terrific.Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2015 10:35 AM (OGm46)"
ISIS or Rainbow?
Posted by: Bad Dog Puppy Treats at July 20, 2015 01:26 PM (XMctS)
He needs to go away and let those who actually want to win and perhaps turn this ship away from the iceberg and opportunity.
If he's so concerned about the sacred honor of veterans why doesn't he start attacking the SCOAMF and his administration for killing veterans?
He won't because Mavericks gotta maverick.
Posted by: Kreplach at July 20, 2015 01:27 PM (97FRK)
There is some controversy there, so just was throwing it out there to discuss.
Posted by: prescient11 at July 20, 2015 01:06 PM (q5APL)
There's nothing to discuss about his time as POW. It was completely honorable. Yes, he made a recording, but so did 99% of the POWs. The torture was just too prolonged and terrible. All but a handful broke, so the rule in that camp was that every POW should hold out as long as he could, but there no shame in breaking after that.
There is plenty to go after on that dickhead McCain but this isn't one of them.
Posted by: stace at July 20, 2015 01:51 PM (CoX6k)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 20, 2015 01:51 PM (+y3Tj)
McCain fucked up his shoulder in the crash and didn't receive the immediate medical attention required to fix it properly. NVA did apparently "torture" him initially, but shortly thereafter found out who he was.
His supporters and the media would like to spin a tale of McCain being tortured for five years, while he refused to take an early release. Makes a nice a story, but not the actual case.
Posted by: jwest at July 20, 2015 01:04 PM (P/xrJ)
that is also incorrect. The commies put a body cast on him after they found out who his daddy was, but after that he was dying after weeks of getting poor care in that hospital They wouldn't wash him and just kind of threw food at his face. Finally when he was at death's door he was thrown back in with two POWs, one of whom saved his life by keeping him clean and fed, the other POW (Bud Day) being too injured himself to help.
He was tortured into mkaing a confession after he refused early release, having some teeth knocked out, his arm rebroken and some ribs cracked.
And so on.
again, this is not the issue to go after McCain on. It distracts from the actual harm he's been doing.
Posted by: stace at July 20, 2015 02:02 PM (CoX6k)
And the Navy, in his Silver Star citation.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 20, 2015 05:32 PM (evdj2)
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Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)