<i>Background Check Should Not Have Permitted Dylann Roof to Buy Gun at All; Mistake Was Due to Lack of Timely Records-Gathering by FBI and Police</i>

Background Check Should Not Have Permitted Dylann Roof to Buy Gun at All; Mistake Was Due to Lack of Timely Records-Gathering by FBI and Police

So obviously what we need is more laws on citizens, to make up for a massively incompetent government.

The NYTimes, of course, brands the FBI's and police's errors a "loophole" that must be fixed.

The man accused of killing nine people in a historically black church in South Carolina last month should not have been able to buy the gun he used in the attack, the F.B.I. said Friday, in what was the latest acknowledgment of flaws in the national background check system.
A loophole in the system and an error by the F.B.I. allowed the man, Dylann Roof, to buy the .45-caliber handgun despite having previously admitted to drug possession, officials said.
Mr. Roof first tried to buy the gun on April 11, from a dealer in South Carolina. The F.B.I., which conducts background checks for gun sales, did not give the dealer approval to proceed with the purchase because the bureau needed to do more investigating about Mr. Roof’s s criminal history.
Under federal law, the F.B.I. has three days to determine whether there is sufficient evidence to deny the purchase. If the bureau cannot come up with an answer, the purchaser can return to the dealer and buy the gun.

So the police did not give the FBI the record in time, or the FBI did not request it in a timely way, and did not have, in any event, the report after three days, so Roof bought the gun.

The NYTimes is branding this a "loophole" for strategic leftist political agitation purposes -- if the government doesn't have its shit together, it's a "loophole" that can only be cured by a blanket restriction.

A writer at Reason attacks the NYT, and the FBI, for claiming its own incompetence is a "loophole" in the law.

Yes, FBI: In a way, it is a "loophole" in the law that criminals get away with crimes when law enforcement officials make deadly errors.

This "loophole" has existed since the first night's guardsmen in the Middle Ages.

Are you just becoming aware that if you sleep on the job, criminals will ply their trade without detection?

BTW, there's a "loophole" in the international system that allows ISIS to butcher Christians and Iran to build nuclear bombs, with which to nuke Tel Aviv.

That "loophole" is called Barack Hussein Obama.

He also doesn't like doing his job. He likes golf and Interesting Italians and having his picture taken with celebrities.

Posted by: Ace at 05:14 PM

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1 The first amendment is a loophole which allows for wrongthink and it must be closed.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 10, 2015 05:17 PM (EHU9F)

2 First

Posted by: Steve at July 10, 2015 05:17 PM (Am8W7)

3 Loophole? Riiiiight...

Posted by: donna at July 10, 2015 05:17 PM (Bn6aD)

4 Or you know, like the mating call of profligatus democratii

"MOOOAAAARRR MUNAAAAY!"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 10, 2015 05:18 PM (VY8H5)

5 Speaking of first...

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 10, 2015 05:18 PM (EHU9F)

6 If not for a commenting loophole Steve would have been First.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 10, 2015 05:18 PM (TJCSB)

7 5 Speaking of first...

Do You get an award for that?

Posted by: donna at July 10, 2015 05:19 PM (Bn6aD)

8 Flaw? No.

Failure.

Posted by: huerfano at July 10, 2015 05:19 PM (bynk/)

9 Yep, somebody fukced up so the solution is more laws or more monay.

Posted by: Kenway at July 10, 2015 05:19 PM (ofHlM)

10 Has to be a loophole.... This Administration never makes a mistake so .....more laws stat!

Posted by: donna at July 10, 2015 05:20 PM (Bn6aD)

11 So now I'm what? Chopped liver?

Posted by: Brandi Chastain 14:59 at July 10, 2015 05:20 PM (fY+fw)

12 Blame it on Repumpkins in 5...4...3...2...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 10, 2015 05:21 PM (eEb+d)

13 I believe I've guessed/Scienced ace's real name : Sebastian Stones.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 10, 2015 05:21 PM (TJCSB)

14 So it sounds like the FBI was more responsible than a damn flag.

Posted by: Golfman at July 10, 2015 05:22 PM (cLpCj)

15 General Custer, I think there is a loophole in your plan to attack the Indians at the Little Big Horn.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 10, 2015 05:22 PM (XUKZU)

16 This tragedy shows we need Common Sense Gun Laws (R) like a 365 day waiting period!

Posted by: Mikey Bloomberg at July 10, 2015 05:22 PM (/PpY0)

17 Loophole: (n) 1) Some tiny bit of freedom the legislature wasn't smart enough to outlaw when they wrote the bill the first time. 2) Anything actually permitted by a law that some Democrat doesn't like.

-The Oxford Democratic Dictionary

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 10, 2015 05:23 PM (QiBX8)

18 I dunno, donna. I've been hanging out at AoS for many years and this was my first first post. I'm giddy with anticipation for the potential riches bequeathed unto me for such an accomplishment!

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 10, 2015 05:23 PM (EHU9F)

19 That "loophole" is called Barack Hussein Obama.

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A loophole is like a noose, right? So, racist.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 10, 2015 05:23 PM (QK70D)

20 I couldn't do my job because I was traumatized thinking about the Confederate Flag on the General Lee.

Posted by: FBI paper-pushing drone at July 10, 2015 05:23 PM (ZtFr+)

21 Just wait for the loop hole in Obama Care when you have to take off your clothes and get in line to take a "shower" before processing....of course this will only be for the elderly, the very young and others not fit for work. Thanks again Obama voters!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 10, 2015 05:23 PM (JG47A)

22 Spoeaking of loopholes, Shelia Jackson Lee comes to mind. Didja see Sheila's tweet the other day? Just as smart as Biden.

http://tinyurl.com/p9754a5

I liked this, too. Good down home gloating.

http://tinyurl.com/nwsgqv5

Posted by: The Great White Snark at July 10, 2015 05:23 PM (XUKZU)

23 So we get to ban the FBI, right? I mean, that's how it works now, according to the SJW's.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 10, 2015 05:24 PM (eEb+d)

24 20 I couldn't do my job because I was traumatized thinking about the Confederate Flag on the General Lee.

Did You see that the ass that owns it is gonna have it painted over? WTF kind of stupid shit is that?

Posted by: donna at July 10, 2015 05:24 PM (Bn6aD)

25 Like it was a loophole that allowed Mehmet II to capture Constantinople in 1453.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 10, 2015 05:25 PM (QK70D)

26 Probably should fix the law so that if the FBI can't meet the deadline, the deal is off. Good way to cut gun sales drastically. This is the way the NYT's would like to fix the law.

Posted by: Colin at July 10, 2015 05:25 PM (WQLtV)

27 Gun grabbing actually works. It's just never been really, really tried before!

Posted by: NYT at July 10, 2015 05:26 PM (diSfq)

28 He's loopy and he's an a-hole so yeah he's a loophole.

Posted by: wth at July 10, 2015 05:26 PM (wAQA5)

29 I thought the gun was a gift from his father?

Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at July 10, 2015 05:26 PM (Ilm6f)

30 I thought the gun was a gift from his father?

I think the Father gave Him money to buy a gun?

Posted by: donna at July 10, 2015 05:27 PM (Bn6aD)

31 This tragedy shows we need Common Sense Gun Laws (R) like a 365 day waiting period!

Posted by: Mikey Bloomberg at July 10, 2015 05:22 PM (/PpY0)

The sad part is that many states do not forward their criminal and mental health records to the FBI NICS system. The poor overworked court clerks just don't give a shit. And the mighty wise and omnipotent judges don't care. This is not the first Back Ground Check Fuck-up. This will not be the last either.

Posted by: rd at July 10, 2015 05:27 PM (/PpY0)

32 Turns out there's a loophole, by which cops will let you take home an underaged Filipino boy, cut him up and eat him.

Call it the "we thought they were gay lovers just having a spat" loophole.

Posted by: Zombie Jeff Dahmer at July 10, 2015 05:28 PM (TOk1P)

33 I thought the gun was a gift from his father?

Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at July 10, 2015 05:26 PM (Ilm6f)

The money might have been but the kid bought the gum himself. But the Flag?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 10, 2015 05:28 PM (kQV90)

34 26 Probably should fix the law so that if the FBI can't meet the deadline, the deal is off. Good way to cut gun sales drastically. This is the way the NYT's would like to fix the law.

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Lois Lerner could then be placed in charge of scheduling.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 10, 2015 05:28 PM (QK70D)

35 Now, if only the FBI had Wang in charge of this investigation, it would have been done properly and promptly.

I mean, what's the downside? The Chinese have already stolen all of our sensitive info, so why not get Wang doing these jobs for us? He at least has shown that he can do it competently.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the trans-Wookie Original at July 10, 2015 05:28 PM (JUdR1)

36
Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at July 10, 2015 05:28 PM (W6iIX)

37 Speaking of loopholes, I thought this was a very interesting article -- http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/09/the-revenge-of-the-lost-boys/ -- how did this come to be so common?

Posted by: cthulhu at July 10, 2015 05:28 PM (EzgxV)

38 Where do I go to get my good Confederate flag back?

Posted by: Ray Donovan at July 10, 2015 05:28 PM (Gcu5R)

39
The sad part is that many states do not forward their criminal and mental health records to the FBI NICS system. The poor overworked court clerks just don't give a shit. And the mighty wise and omnipotent judges don't care. This is not the first Back Ground Check Fuck-up. This will not be the last either.

Well once We all get our micro-chips it will be a lot easier to keep track of Us...

Posted by: donna at July 10, 2015 05:29 PM (Bn6aD)

40 Heya Cooth : )

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 10, 2015 05:29 PM (kmtse)

41 There is a reason gov't has timelines on these things. Anyone from NJ can speak to that re: pistol permits.

Speaking of, that young lady that was murdered while waiting for her pistol permits? Murdered by a loophole.

Posted by: Chupacabras at July 10, 2015 05:29 PM (QFjNO)

42 Geraldo is fucking idiot

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 10, 2015 05:29 PM (kQV90)

43 I remember Rush having a count down to the end of Clinton's first term. Then Clinton got reelected. I'm in no mood to count down Obama's last days in office it might bring bad luck. Obama is on a roll appointing incompetent people, and

Posted by: just saying at July 10, 2015 05:30 PM (wkuqO)

44 When you drug your 15 year old sister so your fiance can have sex with her, and she accidentally dies, it's not murder.

There's a loophole for that.

Posted by: Karla Holmolka at July 10, 2015 05:30 PM (TOk1P)

45 33 - I hadn't heard that tidbit. The early reports were saying his father gave it to him. Either way, he would have gotten what he wanted, background check or no.

Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at July 10, 2015 05:30 PM (Ilm6f)

46
Gun grabbing actually works. It's just never been really, really tried before!
Posted by: NYT at July 10, 2015 05:26 PM (diSfq)
................................
Here try this, I'll hold it up, you grab it from the end and look down the barrel to see if it's loaded.

Posted by: wth at July 10, 2015 05:30 PM (wAQA5)

47 40 Heya Cooth : )

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 10, 2015 05:29 PM (kmtse)

Howdy, howdy!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at July 10, 2015 05:30 PM (EzgxV)

48 In the past I dated FBI agents, now I've gone consensual.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at July 10, 2015 05:31 PM (TJCSB)

49 NOBODY expects the Liberal Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise!... Surprise and fear... fear and surprise... Our two weapons are fear and surprise... and ruthless efficiency! Our three weapons are fear, and surprise, and ruthless efficiency... and an almost fanatical devotion to Obama... Our four... no... Amongst our weapons... Hmf... Amongst our weaponry... are such elements as fear, surpr... I'll come in again.

Posted by: Cardinal Sheila Jackson-Lee at July 10, 2015 05:31 PM (6qR/9)

50
You use loopholes to avoid paying more taxes than you might have to don't you? Loopholes exist because people try to get around the laws.

If he had followed the law this would not have happened. How can you blame the FBI for someone who does not follow the law?

Posted by: The Department of Reinformation at July 10, 2015 05:31 PM (BO/km)

51 42 Geraldo is fucking idiot
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 10, 2015 05:29 PM (kQV90)

--And water is wet.

Ann Coulter tore him one last night.

Posted by: logprof at July 10, 2015 05:32 PM (3kPLN)

52 Maybe if the FBI weren't so busy investigating Obama's political enemies at the behest of the IRS they might get around to doing their fucking jobs.

Posted by: DamnCat at July 10, 2015 05:32 PM (JSdom)

53 Society does tend to frown on slicing the head off your ex-wife, but it turns out if you are black, and she had a Jewish guy at her place, most likely for the purpose of some hanky panky, you can get off.

Loophole.

Posted by: OJ Simpson at July 10, 2015 05:33 PM (TOk1P)

54
laws don't stop these people, it a person with a gun that stops these people.

The nine people murdured is a terrible thing

Posted by: Yo! at July 10, 2015 05:33 PM (W6iIX)

55 No. The loophole would be a provision where there was no time limit on the FBI to provide cause for why a person should not be permitted to buy a weapon. The time limit closes a loophole that would be used by an oppressive government.

Posted by: Glen at July 10, 2015 05:33 PM (SEFXb)

56 So it sounds like the FBI was more responsible than a damn flag.

No, it was the flag loophole.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 10, 2015 05:33 PM (W5DcG)

57 Have they found a way to blame this "loophole" on the Republicans yet?

Posted by: donna at July 10, 2015 05:33 PM (Bn6aD)

58 I'm giddy with anticipation for the potential riches bequeathed unto me for such an accomplishment!
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik

You may collect your winnings from The Barrel.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2015 05:33 PM (d6PIl)

59 I gave the cartels a loophole through Fast and Furious.

Posted by: Eric Holder at July 10, 2015 05:33 PM (7wyDO)

60 Loophole:

Diddling little boys is acceptable, if you have giraffes in your backyard.

Posted by: Zombie Mike Jackson at July 10, 2015 05:34 PM (TOk1P)

61 Waiting Periods

We should go to New Jersey's system. The Police have 30 days to issue a pistol permit. They usually take 90-180 days. And then people like Carol Bowne die. She applied for a pistol permit, a restraining order, and did everything she could to avoid and defend herself against an abusive boyfriend. About two months after she applied for her pistol permit, and after repeatedly asking for it, her boyfriend stabbed her to death in her driveway one morning as she prepared to go to work.

Posted by: rd at July 10, 2015 05:34 PM (/PpY0)

62 laws don't stop these people, it a person with a gun that stops these people.

The nine people murdured is a terrible thing
Posted by: Yo! at July 10, 2015 05:33 PM (W6iIX)

Next thread?

Posted by: Golfman at July 10, 2015 05:34 PM (48QDY)

63 @donna

I'm sure Pat Toomey will be out presently.

Posted by: Chupacabras at July 10, 2015 05:35 PM (QFjNO)

64 Lick the Loopholes!

Posted by: DanMan at July 10, 2015 05:35 PM (RusNE)

65 I don't know why Heraldo is on Fox news if they want to present the 'conservative' side. Heraldo is a one track record, at least Huan has his moments of clarity.

Posted by: just saying at July 10, 2015 05:35 PM (wkuqO)

66 Michael Jackson is dead?

Posted by: wth at July 10, 2015 05:36 PM (wAQA5)

67 Posted by: rd at July 10, 2015 05:34 PM

No. No. No way in hell.

Posted by: dogfish at July 10, 2015 05:36 PM (jWtyG)

68 I had to recently log onto a govmint site, submit personal information on someone -- not me -- so that someone could be in a classroom filled with little boys and girls. Required the state police and FBI to check their databases.

Time required? Less than one minute. Report -- in pdf -- seconds later.

So the delectable scent of unmitigated bullshit is allow over this story.

Posted by: pubic service announcement at July 10, 2015 05:36 PM (xQX/f)

69 Hmmm

So when TFG doesn't do his job it's a loophole or a tee time?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at July 10, 2015 05:37 PM (FnK3f)

70 Our trips to Pedo Island?

Call it the "We get to go bang underaged chicks because have you seen our wives?" loophole.

Posted by: Bonny Prince Chuck and Bubba Clinton at July 10, 2015 05:37 PM (TOk1P)

71 You may collect your winnings from The Barrel.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2015 05:33 PM (d6PIl)

Yeah. I hear they may need a scraper to collect their prize.

Posted by: Golfman at July 10, 2015 05:37 PM (48QDY)

72 Did the Democrats have to vet the head of the FBI?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 10, 2015 05:37 PM (VPLuQ)

73 #twoweeks

Posted by: FBI loophole at July 10, 2015 05:37 PM (kivUY)

74 Lick the Loopholes!
Posted by: DanMan at July 10, 2015 05:35 PM (RusNE)
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That's what Ariana Grande should have said, reminiscent of Clinton's joint: "Ah only licked the holes!"

Posted by: Lou Pohl at July 10, 2015 05:37 PM (6qR/9)

75 The loophole allowing shitty reboots of beloved classic films should be closed.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/qfovmdu

Ugh.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 10, 2015 05:37 PM (EHU9F)

76 Michael Jackson is dead?

Posted by: wth at July 10, 2015 05:36 PM (wAQA5)

Oddly enough, it was the exact same day Jeff Goldblum died. It's very unusual for two such highly respected celebs to die on the same day.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 10, 2015 05:38 PM (TOk1P)

77 At least the hole was champagne tight. someone someone

Posted by: just saying at July 10, 2015 05:39 PM (wkuqO)

78 When danger walks into your door the police are only minutes away. The feds months. Who needs their own gun?

Posted by: Robinson at July 10, 2015 05:40 PM (1SHv1)

79 Well once We all get our micro-chips it will be a lot easier to keep track of Us...
Posted by: donna at July 10, 2015

You mean the barcode tattoo on my neck will be outdated?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at July 10, 2015 05:40 PM (FnK3f)

80 "Geraldo is fucking idiot."
-Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 10, 2015 05:29 PM (kQV90)

Always skirting the edge of controversy, aren't you?

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at July 10, 2015 05:40 PM (OQ9R7)

81 The loophole allowing shitty reboots of beloved classic films should be closed.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/qfovmdu

Ugh.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 10, 2015 05:37 PM (EHU9F)

Which one is Lena Dunham?

Posted by: rd at July 10, 2015 05:40 PM (/PpY0)

82 Posted by: BurtTC at July 10, 2015 05:38 PM (TOk1P)

And yet Vigoda lives.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at July 10, 2015 05:41 PM (+XMAD)

83 The background checks have a number of false positives too, and the left acts like those are legitimate denials.

Posted by: just saying at July 10, 2015 05:41 PM (wkuqO)

84 You fucked up. You trusted us.

Posted by: FBI at July 10, 2015 05:42 PM (oFCZn)

85 Geraldo is fucking idiot."
-Posted by: Nevergiveup

Whose idiot is it this time?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2015 05:42 PM (d6PIl)

86 Benghazi? Merely a loophole.

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at July 10, 2015 05:42 PM (Dwehj)

87 This calls for some new draconian laws!

Posted by: donna at July 10, 2015 05:43 PM (Bn6aD)

88 86 Benghazi? Merely a loophole.
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at July 10, 2015 05:42 PM (Dwehj)

Hey you have to sleep sometime.

Posted by: Hillary nodding off at July 10, 2015 05:43 PM (wkuqO)

89 Here's a loophole for you. The defense team for the scum who shot up the Aurora theater claims that he was insane. Evidence presented in court shows he had awareness of what he was planning to do and took steps to avoid getting caught, evidence of foresight of planning and knowledge of right and wrong. He'll probably get a comfy gig at a state mental institution with an industrial sized barrel of paste to eat for the rest of his miserable life rather than a needle in his vein. Evil miserable little bastard.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at July 10, 2015 05:43 PM (NeFrd)

90 Inebriating and raping pubescent girls?

There's a loophole for that.

Posted by: R. Polanski at July 10, 2015 05:43 PM (3kPLN)

91 does this level of incompetence from our government really surprise anyone?

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 10, 2015 05:43 PM (AkOaV)

92
42 Geraldo is fucking idiot
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 10, 2015 05:29 PM (kQV90)

I'm sorry NGU but duh, fucking duh.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at July 10, 2015 05:43 PM (FnK3f)

93 82 Posted by: BurtTC at July 10, 2015 05:38 PM (TOk1P)

And yet Vigoda lives.
Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at July 10, 2015 05:41 PM (+XMAD)

This meme will die one day.

Posted by: Golfman at July 10, 2015 05:43 PM (48QDY)

94 Brad Bellflower is dead? Wonder if I can have his apartment.

Posted by: wth at July 10, 2015 05:44 PM (wAQA5)

95 Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at July 10, 2015 05:43 PM (NeFrd)

Well, he clearly was insane. Anyone who kills a bunch of random people is clearly not all there mentally.

That being said, genpop or bust!

Oh, and he's had a prison conversion to Islam last I heard. So ... yeah. Not sure how that's relevant, but somehow it seems to be.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 10, 2015 05:44 PM (AkOaV)

96 The loophole allowing shitty reboots of beloved classic films should be closed.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/qfovmdu

Ugh.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 10, 2015 05:37 PM (EHU9F)

--Without clicking . . . is it Ghostbusters?

Posted by: logprof at July 10, 2015 05:44 PM (3kPLN)

97 So, the loophole was "human error" or more likely "human incompetence."

How do you eliminate that? Guess the person needs to be fired and replaced w/some sort of software system that can do this, right?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 10, 2015 05:44 PM (NOIQH)

98 Hey chthulhu walks.
In the daytime.
Strange times indeed.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at July 10, 2015 05:45 PM (l2Gqi)

99 rest of his miserable life rather than a needle in his vein. Evil miserable little bastard.

We put down our pets as painless as possible, scum like this need to drop through the hole with the sudden stop being their neck.

Posted by: Hillary nodding off at July 10, 2015 05:45 PM (wkuqO)

100 off sock

Posted by: just saying at July 10, 2015 05:45 PM (wkuqO)

101 Dang, who knew confederate flags had this much power!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 10, 2015 05:46 PM (NOIQH)

102 Guess the person needs to be fired and replaced w/some sort of software system that can do this, right?

Yes.

Posted by: The OPM at July 10, 2015 05:46 PM (Dwehj)

103 How do you eliminate that? Guess the person needs to be fired and
replaced w/some sort of software system that can do this, right?>>>

Can I have the job?

Posted by: Skynet at July 10, 2015 05:46 PM (1SHv1)

104 Oddly enough, it was the exact same day Jeff Goldblum died. It's very unusual for two such highly respected celebs to die on the same day.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 10, 2015 05:38 PM (TOk1P)

----------------------------------------------------------------

Nope. Farrow Faucet.

Posted by: Sheila Jackson-Leigh at July 10, 2015 05:46 PM (6qR/9)

105 Rep(D): "Loophole, loophole, loophole. In case there was loophole, close loophole that isn't actually a 'loophole', per se, but perhaps Republican Loophole need re-examination."

...because loophole.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at July 10, 2015 05:46 PM (OQ9R7)

106 We're pissing on Ivan Reitman's grave as we speak.

Posted by: Producers of new Ghostbusters at July 10, 2015 05:46 PM (3kPLN)

107 How do you eliminate that? Guess the person needs to be fired and replaced w/some sort of software system that can do this, right?
Posted by: Lizzy at July 10, 2015 05:44 PM (NOIQH)

Sure! Just hire the Argentine company that did all that great work for OPM!

They'll get our background check systems running perfectly.

A little lag time as it routes through Beijing, but no big deal.

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 10, 2015 05:46 PM (AkOaV)

108 Regardless of any NYT loopholes, he lied on his ATF 4473 form. Question 11e about unlawful drug use.

He committed a Felony by answering no to that question.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 10, 2015 05:46 PM (iONHu)

109 How do you eliminate that? Guess the person needs to be fired and replaced w/some sort of software system that can do this, right?

I hear Katherine Archeletta is available...

Posted by: donna at July 10, 2015 05:46 PM (Bn6aD)

110 The real question is did the Chicoms green light the gun purchase? They probably had the request processed faster than the FBI.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at July 10, 2015 05:47 PM (NeFrd)

111 51 logprof

Ann Coulter tore him one last night.

All this time he didn't even have one? No wonder.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at July 10, 2015 05:47 PM (l2Gqi)

112 "Loop hole"?

Yes, please!

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at July 10, 2015 05:47 PM (bgKZk)

113 How do you eliminate that? Guess the person needs to be fired and replaced w/some sort of software system that can do this, right?
Posted by: Lizzy at July 10, 2015 05:44 PM (NOIQH)

You don't - so you just keep piling one crappy law on top of another and hiring more incompetent people to enforce your crappy laws.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at July 10, 2015 05:47 PM (+XMAD)

114 He committed a Felony by answering no to that question.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 10, 2015 05:46 PM (iONHu)

Wait, wait, WAIT -- are you telling me someone who planned to commit a mass murder COMMITTED A FELONY and broke EXISTING GUN LAWS in order to get his weapon?

Next you'll tell me that churches in SC are "no gun zones" and that he just ignored that law too.

What is the world coming to when violent murderers ignore federal and state gun laws?

Posted by: mynewhandle at July 10, 2015 05:48 PM (AkOaV)

115 argh.

wife went down to Texas to assess damages to her family house and land near Waco. House needs to be torn down.

so.... price just dropped. yikes.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 10, 2015 05:48 PM (Cq0oW)

116 The laws worked as intended.

The that we have to be granted permission to exercise our enumerated constitutional rights is absurd.

Hey what's going to happen once all of the drugs are made legal?

What are they going to criminalize then?

Posted by: Kreplach at July 10, 2015 05:48 PM (VvoVZ)

117 "All this time he didn't even have one? No wonder."
-Posted by: JohnnyBoy at July 10, 2015 05:47 PM (l2Gqi)

She did him a favor. He now has a Loophole.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at July 10, 2015 05:48 PM (OQ9R7)

118 I saw The Loopholes open up for The The back in the early '80's.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t at July 10, 2015 05:49 PM (eEb+d)

119 The background checks have a number of false positives too, and the left acts like those are legitimate denials.

Posted by: just saying at July 10, 2015 05:41 PM (wkuqO)

There are "only" about 90,000 denials a year. Most of those are bogus, due to bad records, wrong guy, etc. There are about 1,000-2,000 legitimate denials (Felon, Mentally Ill, etc). And the government actually prosecutes about 2 dozen cases per year.

I have an unusual name, the first background check took about a week in the late 1990's. Since the FFL was a friend's friend, we waited it out. (Also if I failed, my site access at work could be jepoardized by the failure) Last one in 2013 took about 60 seconds.

Posted by: rd at July 10, 2015 05:49 PM (/PpY0)

120 This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error.

Posted by: HAL 9000 at July 10, 2015 05:49 PM (3kPLN)

121 >>You don't - so you just keep piling one crappy law on top of another and hiring more incompetent people to enforce your crappy laws.

This is on par w/a gov't program failing which means it needs more money.

More background check laws won't make the people responsible for doing them, you know, do them in a thorough and timely manner.
But that's private sector thinking, right?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 10, 2015 05:50 PM (NOIQH)

122
Destroyed a server. Loophole.

Lied about supeona. Loophole.

Kept all charity donations for personal use. Loophole.

Posted by: HMS Hillary Butt at July 10, 2015 05:50 PM (ODxAs)

123 POOPHOLE?

Posted by: Al Sharpton at July 10, 2015 05:50 PM (Dwehj)

124 Reminds me, time to lick the donut holes.

Posted by: Adri Grande at July 10, 2015 05:51 PM (3kPLN)

125 So I guess my point is that if you want to teach in a classroom filled with tiny little boys and girls the FBI can report back in mere seconds. Buying a gun? Takes a little longer to figure that out.

Bullshit.

I'm so tired of being lied to. Complicidiots.

Posted by: pubic service announcement at July 10, 2015 05:51 PM (xQX/f)

126 Hey what's going to happen once all of the drugs are made legal?

What are they going to criminalize then?

Posted by: Kreplach at July 10, 2015 05:48 PM (VvoVZ)

Cigarettes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 10, 2015 05:51 PM (MYSVz)

127 Is your loophole gas tight?

Posted by: just saying at July 10, 2015 05:52 PM (wkuqO)

128
Course laid in for that loophole, Captain.

Posted by: Sulu at July 10, 2015 05:52 PM (wAQA5)

129 They don't care what an actual, legal "loophole" actually means. They want you to bow down to "NuSpeak" and drink from the loophole.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at July 10, 2015 05:52 PM (OQ9R7)

130 wife went down to Texas to assess damages to her family house and land near Waco. House needs to be torn down.

See if the fire department is volunteer. Donate the house for burn practice. Take the tax write off. Save $$ on demo costs.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2015 05:52 PM (d6PIl)

131 Sorry I slept with your husband while you were out of town! But loophole, the package of beer we drank didn't warn us that consuming it might make us have bad decisions! Oopsie.

Posted by: That Slut Coworker of your Husbands at July 10, 2015 05:52 PM (hvf9s)

132 Whew! Thank God the House is gong to ban confederate flags at federal cemeteries, or this might happen again.

Future occurrences averted!!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 10, 2015 05:52 PM (NOIQH)

133 "if the government doesn't have its shit together, it's a "loophole"

Picky, picky, picky. We can't be fellati'n the usurper and rounding up the Tea Party at the same time but the usurper pays the bills, so there's that.

We're like hunting dogs. We don't think much, just point us in the direction of those who threaten the oligarchy and we are on it.

Posted by: FBI at July 10, 2015 05:53 PM (BJJPe)

134 I see Barry is off next week to visit some prisons.... Next on his agenda release of certain types of Prisoners.... if You know what I mean...

Posted by: donna at July 10, 2015 05:53 PM (Bn6aD)

135 So when Obama invites millions of minors to storm our border it was a Loophole? Shoosh, I thought it was just treason. So Loophole is okay. AmIright?

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at July 10, 2015 05:53 PM (oDCMR)

136 ..."Next on his agenda release of certain types of Prisoners.... if You know what I mean..."
-Posted by: donna at July 10, 2015 05:53 PM (Bn6aD)

He's got a loose loophole?

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at July 10, 2015 05:54 PM (OQ9R7)

137 ill tell her that rick

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at July 10, 2015 05:54 PM (Cq0oW)

138 I see Barry is off next week to visit some prisons.... Next on his
agenda release of certain types of Prisoners.... if You know what I
mean...

Future Brownshirts.

Posted by: Al Sharpton at July 10, 2015 05:54 PM (Dwehj)

139 Is Sanctuary Cities a Loophole for employers to get, you know, really cheap labor? I'm very interested in Loopholes.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at July 10, 2015 05:54 PM (oDCMR)

140 wife went down to Texas to assess damages to her family house and land near Waco. House needs to be torn down. so.... price just dropped. yikes.

Branch Davidian? Serves them right.

Posted by: Janet Reno at July 10, 2015 05:54 PM (xQX/f)

141 138 I see Barry is off next week to visit some prisons.... Next on his
agenda release of certain types of Prisoners.... if You know what I
mean...

Future Brownshirts.

And voters...

Posted by: donna at July 10, 2015 05:54 PM (Bn6aD)

142 BTW fuck it, I'm already tippling and it's not even 4 here.

Posted by: logprof at July 10, 2015 05:54 PM (3kPLN)

143 Whew squared!

Just in case another Confederate soldier dies in the future.

Posted by: Golfman at July 10, 2015 05:55 PM (48QDY)

144 I see Barry is off next week to visit some prisons.... Next on his agenda release of certain types of Prisoners.... if You know what I mean...

Posted by: donna at July 10, 2015 05:53 PM (Bn6aD)

All The Gentle Giants and poor undocumented workers seeking sanctuary in San Francisco?

Posted by: rd at July 10, 2015 05:55 PM (/PpY0)

145 "I dunno, donna. I've been hanging out at AoS for many years and this was my first first post. I'm giddy with anticipation for the potential riches bequeathed unto me for such an accomplishment!"

Well, hello there fresh meat! Care for a Quaalude?

Posted by: The Barrel at July 10, 2015 05:55 PM (BJJPe)

146 Didn't somebody something have a lot of "buffers" and are they the same as "loopholes".

for (;

Posted by: DaveA at July 10, 2015 05:55 PM (DL2i+)

147 Is Loophole a gay marriage thing?

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at July 10, 2015 05:55 PM (oDCMR)

148 The data breach was a loophole! *

*please take me back. I have no useful skills out here.

Posted by: former OPM Director Archuleta at July 10, 2015 05:55 PM (bgKZk)

149 So "loophole" = yadda, yadda, yadda

As in, Ms Archuletta was going to address the OPM db security concerns, but then because of a loophole, the Chinese hacked the system.

Obama was informed of the ongoing attack on our consulate in Benghazi, but then because of a loophole, he was out of pocket for 8 hrs and then boarded a flight to Las Vegas.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 10, 2015 05:56 PM (NOIQH)

150 I just farted.

Posted by: Joe! Biden at July 10, 2015 05:56 PM (3kPLN)

151
BTW fuck it, I'm already tippling and it's not even 4 here.

Posted by: logprof at July 10, 2015 05:54 PM (3kPLN)

You're that concerned about the Bombers tonight?

Posted by: Vendette at July 10, 2015 05:56 PM (TEpA2)

152 Loophole allowed Holmes to send his psychiatrist a notebook filled with his plans but she couldn't report him because of concerns about doctor-patient privilege.

Can't pre-identify with any reliability. Can't report when you do pre-identify. Can't prevent purchase via national background check. Sure as hell can't prevent straw purchases or theft of guns. Only way to stop maniacs is to make the consequences swift, immediate and irreversible. Hard targets. armed resistance. My father-in-law was murdered by a neighbor while unarmed. I don't plan to have the same thing happen to me.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at July 10, 2015 05:56 PM (NeFrd)

153 I was just able to buy some dangerous wolves from France through a loup hole.

Posted by: Winston Wolfe at July 10, 2015 05:56 PM (+rqeM)

154 the police did not give the FBI the record in time, or the FBI did not request it in a timely way,

Someone tripped over a CBF on the way to the fax.

Posted by: DaveA at July 10, 2015 05:57 PM (DL2i+)

155 That thing that happened in your mouth. Loophole.

Posted by: King Barry at July 10, 2015 05:57 PM (1SHv1)

156 Legislators and regulators believe that passing a law or writing a regulation is sufficient to solve a problem. And the sheeple who believe that government is beneficent and efficient believe it too.

But even where a law or regulation is warranted, it only helps if it is actually enforced. The legislative-regulatory minded don't ever think that far ahead. And they never admit that in some cases, implementation and enforcement are impossible and may even be downright dangerous.

Posted by: stuiec at July 10, 2015 05:57 PM (eetvJ)

157 "BTW fuck it, I'm already tippling and it's not even 4 here."
-Posted by: logprof at July 10, 2015 05:54 PM (3kPLN)

Way ahead of you ...lol. I may not make it to the ONT. But If I Do.... I've got Ampersands and Loopholes.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at July 10, 2015 05:57 PM (OQ9R7)

158 please take me back. I have no useful skills out here.

Posted by: former OPM Director Archuleta

We are taking applications.

Posted by: The U.S. Supreme Court at July 10, 2015 05:57 PM (Dwehj)

159 Katie Steinle?...loophole victim...

Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 10, 2015 05:58 PM (hCdMd)

160 But but but LOOPHOLES ARE FOR SHOOTING GUNS THROUGH!

Posted by: stuiec at July 10, 2015 05:58 PM (eetvJ)

161 crap,
The heck with "first" first, I wanna get the obvious joke in first.

Posted by: DaveA at July 10, 2015 05:58 PM (DL2i+)

162 Love them loopholes!
Put 'em drinks. Shhhhhh!

Posted by: Bill Cosby at July 10, 2015 05:58 PM (NOIQH)

163 I wash my Loophole everyday. I wish others would do likewise.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at July 10, 2015 05:58 PM (oDCMR)

164 The sad part is that many states do not forward their criminal and mental health records to the FBI NICS system.

The sad part is, that even criminals and mental health patients are being denied Constitutional rights.

If they are dangerous to society, keep them behind bars. End of rant.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at July 10, 2015 05:58 PM (AxDuC)

165 "That thing that happened in your mouth. Loophole."
-Posted by: King Barry at July 10, 2015 05:57 PM (1SHv1)

*HAH!*

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at July 10, 2015 05:58 PM (OQ9R7)

166
160But but but LOOPHOLES ARE FOR SHOOTING GUNS THROUGH!

Yes that have that loophole that goes up.

Posted by: The Department of Reinformation at July 10, 2015 05:59 PM (BO/km)

167 I have a keen eye for loopholes. I like to find them young and mentor them.

Posted by: Disney Talent Scout at July 10, 2015 05:59 PM (NOIQH)

168 I thought Loophole played for the Toronto Maple Leafs [sic].

Posted by: logprof at July 10, 2015 05:59 PM (3kPLN)

169 So all those American girls aged 4 to 12 who were raped by illegals is a Loophole. Same deal with the 8 year old America rape victim buried alive. AmIright?

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at July 10, 2015 06:00 PM (oDCMR)

170 This whole Administration is a loophole into Bizarro Land.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 10, 2015 06:00 PM (dZtj4)

171 Luap Nor hole

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at July 10, 2015 06:00 PM (NeFrd)

172
Thanks, Obama!

Posted by: Insert Clever Name Here at July 10, 2015 06:00 PM (xptlg)

173
147 Is Loophole a gay marriage thing?
Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham

No, that's a butthole

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at July 10, 2015 06:00 PM (FnK3f)

174 Here's our premise: Government works. All the time too, unless Republicans retard its functioning with asinine, racist or treasonous acts.

I would say "prove us wrong" but you'll just cite examples of the afore mentioned A, R ampersand T actions of the Republican party.

Like when you confirmed Katherine Archeleta in order to embarrass Obama.

Posted by: Pinch Sulzburger at July 10, 2015 06:01 PM (DkJ4E)

175 I saw Loophole open for Queen at the Worcester Centrum in '78.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 10, 2015 06:01 PM (NOIQH)

176 It really depends on what your definition of "loophole" is.

Posted by: The Department of Reinformation at July 10, 2015 06:01 PM (BO/km)

177 A noose is a type of loophole.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 10, 2015 06:01 PM (+jijM)

178 Are Yazidi Slave Girls Loopholes?

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at July 10, 2015 06:01 PM (oDCMR)

179 Ever had a Loophole Taco?...to die for

Posted by: Mr Wizard at July 10, 2015 06:02 PM (hCdMd)

180 You guys knock it off.

Posted by: Lupe Whole at July 10, 2015 06:02 PM (BO/km)

181 BTW fuck it, I'm already tippling and it's not even 4 here.

Posted by: logprof at July 10, 2015 05:54 PM (3kPLN)

You're that concerned about the Bombers tonight?
Posted by: Vendette at July 10, 2015 05:56 PM (TEpA2)

--It's a FIAF in general, but yeah, I'm worried for the Bombers' chances after last week's debacle. But not as worried as I am pissed at ESPN2 for showing the fucking Pan Am Games instead. (If the NFL Network is carrying the game instead, I stand corrected, but still pissed that I lack NFLN.)

Posted by: logprof at July 10, 2015 06:02 PM (3kPLN)

182 Pretty sure our Benghazi Ambassador was Loopholed.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at July 10, 2015 06:03 PM (oDCMR)

183 I'm hung like a horse. I call it my Lou Pole

Posted by: Lou Dobbs at July 10, 2015 06:03 PM (NeFrd)

184 165 "That thing that happened in your mouth. Loophole."
-Posted by: King Barry at July 10, 2015 05:57 PM (1SHv1)

*HAH!*
Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at July 10, 2015 05:58 PM (OQ9R7)

Day walkers have talent too.

Posted by: Golfman at July 10, 2015 06:03 PM (48QDY)

185 --It's a FIAF in general, but yeah, I'm worried for
the Bombers' chances after last week's debacle. But not as worried as I
am pissed at ESPN2 for showing the fucking Pan Am Games instead. (If
the NFL Network is carrying the game instead, I stand corrected, but
still pissed that I lack NFLN.)

Posted by: logprof at July 10, 2015 06:02 PM (3kPLN)

Looking at the listings, the Bombers are on ESPN2.

Posted by: Vendette at July 10, 2015 06:04 PM (TEpA2)

186 Not a loophole. A Tax.

Posted by: Justice Roberts at July 10, 2015 06:04 PM (NOIQH)

187 We're counting up how many bathrooms each household has.

Posted by: British Loo Poll worker at July 10, 2015 06:04 PM (NeFrd)

188 There no way Hillary's server was a Loophole.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at July 10, 2015 06:04 PM (oDCMR)

189 A noose is a type of loophole.>>>

And a Lamp pole is a type of hanger.

Posted by: Robinson at July 10, 2015 06:04 PM (1SHv1)

190 We are taking applications.

Posted by: The U.S. Supreme Court at July 10, 2015 05:57 PM (Dwehj)

SCOTASS test for Latina justices:

1) Are you a Latina?

2) Do you believe that empathy is a legitimate main criterion for a judge or judicial decision?

3) Does Spanish have adjectives?

4) Is it correct to state, "The storm is eminent"?

Don't worry about your score. If you're a Latina then you can't fail. Congratulations! You're in!! Welcome to the SCOTASS.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 10, 2015 06:04 PM (MYSVz)

191
Susan Sarandon je suises with the donut-licking cunt.

I je suis with Donald Trump and I'm the asshole??

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 10, 2015 06:04 PM (jmHCO)

192
183I'm hung like a horse. I call it my Lou Pole

Solid!

Posted by: Lupe Whole at July 10, 2015 06:05 PM (BO/km)

193 P.S. The money pit that is the Pan Am Games will be on ESPN.

Posted by: Vendette at July 10, 2015 06:05 PM (TEpA2)

194 Just kidding, it's both a Loophole and a Tax.
And a floor polish and a whipped topping.

Posted by: Justice Roberts at July 10, 2015 06:05 PM (NOIQH)

195 Bernie Sanders says the lack of orgasms will cause cancer in your Loophole.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at July 10, 2015 06:06 PM (oDCMR)

196 We're replacing all Eastern Europeans with Italians. In lieu of Poles.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at July 10, 2015 06:06 PM (NeFrd)

197 Bombers? Is it CFL time again?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at July 10, 2015 06:06 PM (FnK3f)

198 Not Lou Pole, his sister Mae.

Posted by: Justice Roberts at July 10, 2015 06:07 PM (NOIQH)

199 Well for once the Police have gotten their....

http://preview.tinyurl.com/pw2rroo

Hamburgler

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 10, 2015 06:07 PM (dZtj4)

200 Bombers? Is it CFL time again?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at July 10, 2015 06:06 PM (FnK3f)

Every Thursday and Friday on ESPN2.

Posted by: Vendette at July 10, 2015 06:07 PM (TEpA2)

201 Since when does past drug use take away my 2nd amendment right?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 10, 2015 06:07 PM (baR5c)

202 Looking at the listings, the Bombers are on ESPN2.
Posted by: Vendette at July 10, 2015 06:04 PM (TEpA2)

--Good to know. Now I'm pissed at the online TV listing page for being wrong. I miss the ole Wendy's FNF on TSN.

Posted by: logprof at July 10, 2015 06:07 PM (3kPLN)

203 "Day walkers have talent too."
-Posted by: Golfman at July 10, 2015 06:03 PM (48QDY)

Of course they do. I've seen it and I would have never have contended otherwise. Perhaps you see me as a "scout"? ...lol.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at July 10, 2015 06:07 PM (OQ9R7)

204 Try shitting through a Loophole. You will get shit all over your trousers and shoes.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at July 10, 2015 06:07 PM (oDCMR)

205
191
Susan Sarandon je suises with the donut-licking cunt.

I je suis with Donald Trump and I'm the asshole??

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious

Yes, we are. We don't hate our country. But, I'm starting to hate a large cement of its residents

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at July 10, 2015 06:08 PM (FnK3f)

206 Lois Lerner was going to print all of the subpoenaed emails, but then because of a loophole, both her hard drive and the offsite back-up tapes were destroyed.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 10, 2015 06:08 PM (NOIQH)

207 --Good to know. Now I'm pissed at the online TV listing page for being wrong. I miss the ole Wendy's FNF on TSN.

Posted by: logprof at July 10, 2015 06:07 PM (3kPLN)

AW onion rings...

Posted by: Vendette at July 10, 2015 06:09 PM (TEpA2)

208
Here's what the Left Does Not Want To Do: Stop Gun Violence.

Here's what the Left Wants To Do: Prevent law-abiding citizens (who are more likely to be right-leaning conservatives from possessing firearms.

With me so far? Okay, good.

So what the Left does is put guns in the hands of criminals so they can go out and kill people and then use those murders to create new gun grabbing laws. The left is evil, and they'll use any means to achieve their ends.

So please stop believing the Left wants to really do what they say they want to do.

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 10, 2015 06:09 PM (jmHCO)

209 Do Loopholes look like worms?

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at July 10, 2015 06:09 PM (oDCMR)

210 197 Bombers? Is it CFL time again?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at July 10, 2015 06:06 PM (FnK3f)

--It's football for fanatics to tide themselves until the NFL starts. For Bombers fans, it's also masochism.

Posted by: logprof at July 10, 2015 06:09 PM (3kPLN)

211 Every Thursday and Friday on ESPN2.
-----

Cool, thanks Vendette

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at July 10, 2015 06:09 PM (FnK3f)

212 A (ampersand) W onion rings.

Posted by: Vendette at July 10, 2015 06:09 PM (TEpA2)

213 Loopholes! They're magically delicfious!

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at July 10, 2015 06:09 PM (NeFrd)

214 So an FBI agent giving a gun to an illegal is a Loophole?

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at July 10, 2015 06:10 PM (oDCMR)

215 Actually, I might have an answer to my own question @37 -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Mouse_universe#Mouse_experiments

Posted by: cthulhu at July 10, 2015 06:10 PM (EzgxV)

216 It's a loophole that doesn't allow me my 2nd amendment rights.

Posted by: skip at July 10, 2015 06:10 PM (D7n6r)

217
In other words, obama and his demons want these type of shootings to occur.

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 10, 2015 06:11 PM (jmHCO)

218 --It's football for fanatics to tide themselves until the NFL starts. For Bombers fans, it's also masochism.

Posted by: logprof at July 10, 2015 06:09 PM (3kPLN)

The Grey Cup is a great party. Starts the Wednesday before the game.

Posted by: Vendette at July 10, 2015 06:11 PM (TEpA2)

219 Does Lois Lerner do Loopholes or is it against her religion?

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at July 10, 2015 06:11 PM (oDCMR)

220 Hmm, I wonder why Hannah's horse was asking her to wash his knees. I'm not sure if it was really dirty knees.

Posted by: logprof at July 10, 2015 06:11 PM (3kPLN)

221
a large cement??

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 10, 2015 06:11 PM (jmHCO)

222 There is a new thread, BTW...

Posted by: Vendette at July 10, 2015 06:12 PM (TEpA2)

223 segment

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at July 10, 2015 06:12 PM (NeFrd)

224 So the fact that Obamacare deductibles prevent you from affording healthcare was a Loophole?

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at July 10, 2015 06:12 PM (oDCMR)

225
There's a hole catagory on PronHub for loopholes...

Posted by: POTUS at July 10, 2015 06:12 PM (1LhSy)

226 A lib dem woman giving birth is a loophole

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at July 10, 2015 06:12 PM (FnK3f)

227 Willow

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at July 10, 2015 06:13 PM (FnK3f)

228 Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at July 10, 2015 06:07 PM (OQ9R7)

Heh. I've spotted you before. Ghillie suit and all.

Posted by: Golfman at July 10, 2015 06:13 PM (48QDY)

229 Those blown up Mexicans?....Loophole.

Posted by: ATF at July 10, 2015 06:13 PM (BJJPe)

230 "Loopholes! They're magically delicfious!"
-Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at July 10, 2015 06:09 PM (NeFrd)

-Orange Stars
-Green Subsidies
-Blue Wetlands
...and Luxury Boxes at Washington Nationals Diamonds!

Suck It, Marshmallows!

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at July 10, 2015 06:14 PM (OQ9R7)

231 The sad part is that many states do not forward their criminal and mental health records to the FBI NICS system. The poor overworked court clerks just don't give a shit. And the mighty wise and omnipotent judges don't care. This is not the first Back Ground Check Fuck-up. This will not be the last either.

Here in WA they had some recent stories about cops not actually submitting rape kits that were collected to the lab. We're not talking backwater towns of 10K people, we're talking Seattle PD.

A rape kit, from what I understand, is something that takes hours to correctly collect. It has to be done by a person with special training. It's invasive and humiliating to the woman who has already been violated in a very personal way. Can you imagine going through that and finding out the Seattle PD couldn't be bothered to pass the kit along to the Crime Lab?

Posted by: bonhomme at July 10, 2015 06:14 PM (jhqr1)

232 If one wants to really examine the fine print of a law, it would be a good idea to look through the loupe holes.

Posted by: a jeweler at July 10, 2015 06:14 PM (+rqeM)

233 The Grey Cup is a great party. Starts the Wednesday before the game.
Posted by: Vendette at July 10, 2015 06:11 PM (TEpA2)

--Yeah, I remember when it was in the 'Peg (shh, the Stamps won that one). If Saskatchewan is in the Grey Cup game, the party starts Monday.

Posted by: logprof at July 10, 2015 06:14 PM (3kPLN)

234 I'm currently pouring beer down my loophole, which will eventually be my legal loophole for my fire, fun, and frolic ((hic))

Posted by: All Hail Eris at July 10, 2015 06:14 PM (TTgpD)

235 Barky's forged birth certificate?...Loophole.

Posted by: FBI at July 10, 2015 06:15 PM (BJJPe)

236 Fox giving Trump a good once over

He's done this before. He's a liar

Posted by: ThunderB at July 10, 2015 06:16 PM (zOTsN)

237 Now we know why they didn't push much for gun control after the first few hours on this shooting. Instead, we just banned a flag then quietly news dumped the FBI error on a Friday.

Posted by: Old Hob at July 10, 2015 06:16 PM (FFIoe)

238 A wise Latina would call it a rialto.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 10, 2015 06:16 PM (+jijM)

239 "Heh. I've spotted you before. Ghillie suit and all."
-Posted by: Golfman at July 10, 2015 06:13 PM (48QDY)

Heh... to be fair, my ghillie suit is usually Budweiser Amber and stinks like day-old prayer.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at July 10, 2015 06:17 PM (OQ9R7)

240 Persecuting the Tea Party?...Loophole.

Posted by: Lois Lerner at July 10, 2015 06:17 PM (BJJPe)

241 Since when does past drug use take away my 2nd amendment right?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 10, 2015 06:07 PM (baR5c)

Since the plethora of regulations on your 2A rights make them essentially a privilege.

Same with the rest of your so-called rights.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 10, 2015 06:17 PM (XmOA9)

242 Trump was pro gay marriage, then not

Pro choice, then not

Pro amnesty, then not

Pro obamacare, and then not

Pro conservative, then voted dem

He is as faithful to ideas as he is to his wives

Posted by: ThunderB at July 10, 2015 06:18 PM (zOTsN)

243
Susan Sarandon je suises with the donut-licking cunt.

I je suis with Donald Trump and I'm the asshole??

Posted by: Soothsayer of the Righteous And Harmonious Fists at July 10, 2015 06:04 PM (jmHCO)

As I recall, a major reason that Sarandon and Tim Robbins broke up after 20 some years is that Sarandon thought that Robbins was getting too conservative.

*snort*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 10, 2015 06:18 PM (egLDQ)

244 Stealing customers' money?...Loophole.

Posted by: Jon Corsine at July 10, 2015 06:18 PM (BJJPe)

245 ..."He is as faithful to ideas as he is to his wives."
-Posted by: ThunderB at July 10, 2015 06:18 PM (zOTsN)

But he's Yuuuge!

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at July 10, 2015 06:18 PM (OQ9R7)

246 Death panels?...Loophole.

Posted by: John Roberts with an assist from Gruber at July 10, 2015 06:19 PM (BJJPe)

247 Only when he is standing on someone else's money

Posted by: ThunderB at July 10, 2015 06:20 PM (zOTsN)

248 I was just able to buy some dangerous wolves from France through a loup hole.
Posted by: Winston Wolfe at July 10, 2015 05:56 PM (+rqeM)

And then you turned them into werewolves it was a loup garou hole.

Posted by: LizLem at July 10, 2015 06:20 PM (hvf9s)

249 Corn holing those bible-thumpers?...Loophole.

Posted by: Justice Kennedy at July 10, 2015 06:21 PM (BJJPe)

250 What's that you say? Government paperwork was screwed up??

The deuce you say.

We need more rules!

Posted by: pj at July 10, 2015 06:22 PM (cHuNI)

251 Where can I get one of these loopholes you all speak of?

Posted by: Bernie Madoff at July 10, 2015 06:24 PM (BJJPe)

252 My loophole was defective. Where's the nearest Clinton Foundation I can drop off my check to remedy the si-tia-tion?

Posted by: Martha Stewart at July 10, 2015 06:28 PM (BJJPe)

253 "Only when he is standing on someone else's money"

I've noticed that Cruz is taller standing on his H1B1 donor's money, so there's that.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at July 10, 2015 06:32 PM (BJJPe)

254 Fox News is saying the FBI's lack of response "prevented" the gun dealer from not selling the gun to Roof. That is precisely incorrect.

I just purchased a gun from a newly opened local dealer - I was curious and he wasn't busy, so he explained how the Brady Bill works.

The FBI has 3 days to respond to the dealer's background inquiry; their possible answers are approved, denied, and delayed. Approved and denied are self-explanatory; delayed gives the gun dealer discretion after the 3 day period to sell or refuse to sell based on his/her judgement. In Roof's case this is what happened. You can't really blame the dealer, but neither can you claim he/she was forced to sell the gun.

In the case of a delay, such as Roof had, the FBI still has 30 days from the initial background request to approve or deny the purchase. If it's eventually denied and the dealer has already legally sold the gun, then he can call the customer and request it be returned; if the buyer refuses to return, the FBI will pay him/her a visit and seize the gun. Likewise, if the gun dealer is uncomfortable with contacting the customer, he/she can request the FBI to handle confiscating the gun and returning it to the dealer. (there's a code associated with a "deny" that identifies the reason, such as 'Applicant is a verified commenter @ AoSHQ)

Btw, if you're one of those people who is constantly facing a 3 day delay for firearms purchases, it's probably because you've had a driver's license in multiple states. For a fee, you can have all of your former residence states' background info transferred into the database of the state you live in now and you will be approved (or denied!) in seconds, as long as your current state has a fully computerized background check system. Check with your gun dealer to get the website address - it's all handled online.

Posted by: Xavier at July 10, 2015 06:32 PM (TLx34)

255 Damn, I'm exhausted. I've been passed around stretched out like Barky's a-hole after one of his weekly anal gang-bangs.

Posted by: Loopholes Everywhere at July 10, 2015 06:43 PM (BJJPe)

256 "That Slut Coworker of your Husbands"

Bitch, Please! Parking lot...Six O' Clock.

Posted by: Wife of that Husband sleeping with the Slut at July 10, 2015 07:09 PM (BJJPe)

257 Wait, I thought it was all the CBF's fault.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 10, 2015 07:35 PM (DiZBp)

258 I'm sure the biggest "loophole" is illegal immigration.

Posted by: Sure Fire at July 10, 2015 07:52 PM (FNFwF)

259 What the Times and the Left wants is to turn incompetence into a semi-permanent hold on gun purchases. This is one of the reasons the back-ground check law was written this way- to prevent the Federal Government from foot-dragging its way to a full on prevention of gun purchases. I guarantee you this- if this "loophole" is fixed, you won't get approval to buy a gun inside of 2 years- they will delay, delay, delay in order to wait you out.

Posted by: Yancey Ward at July 10, 2015 09:29 PM (vTVKC)

260 Actually the Feds DID deny the purchase... but when the dealer got the rejection it was written in Chinese for some reason and he couldn't make head nor tail of it.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at July 10, 2015 11:10 PM (Kucy5)

261 Oh, by the way, someone found a loophole and hacked the National Guard. If you were in the Guard from 2004 on your information is compromised.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at July 10, 2015 11:33 PM (Kucy5)

262 If they are dangerous to society, keep them behind bars. End of rant.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at July 10, 2015 05:58 PM (AxDuC)

LOOPHOLE

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 11, 2015 01:32 AM (NaeCR)

263 If a firearm could not be issued until the FBI sent an approval for purchase you can bet you'd have to wait about as long as it would take for Obama to admit he is an affirmative action Havard student. Or that Mochelle has bigger balls than he does.

Posted by: Steiner at July 11, 2015 06:06 PM (AV5BN)

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