#TheRevolutionWillBeLiveStreamed: Flynn/LaHood "Candidate Forum," on YouTube, at 7 PM Eastern

Andrew Breitbart's Wartime Consiglierte goes up against Establishment/US Chamber of Commerce/Main Street Partnership scion and Boehner Water Carrier Darin LaHood.

Watch (not just listen) below.

If the channel gets stuck, it might also be available here.

Also, it's the top story at Breitbart.

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— Heywood Yashutup (@FUSigma) June 29, 2015

.@flynn1776 "We are children of God, we are all touched by the divine. Conservatism is a humility-- we do not know what's best for you."
— TheUltraYachtLife (@AceofSpadesHQ) June 29, 2015

Update: I'm told that Mike will be appearing on Mark "The Great One" Levin's show at 8:30, or thereabouts. You can listen live here.

Posted by: Ace at 06:57 PM

Comments

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1 All three candidates look highly suspicious. Is there a fourth option?

Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 06:59 PM (NUqwG)

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All three candidates look highly suspicious.
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You should not judge a candidate on how the look. Real conservatives do not do that.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 07:00 PM (NUqwG)

3 Real conservatives do not do that.
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Go to hell, jerk.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 07:01 PM (NUqwG)

4 at 7 PM Eastern
When people in Peoria with jobs and/or families are driving home or making/eating dinner or some other useful thing that is not streaming politics.

So I assume LaHood chose the time?

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at June 29, 2015 07:01 PM (ZKzrr)

5 You should not judge a candidate on how the look. Real conservatives do not do that.
Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 07:00 PM (NUqwG)

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Nice comeback.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 29, 2015 07:01 PM (8ZskC)

6 I've put up signs for Flynn, passed out literature for Flynn. Why do I get the feeling that the moment he lands in D.C. he become just as much part of the establishment that shock was?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 29, 2015 07:02 PM (U7H1n)

7 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 29, 2015 07:01 PM (8ZskC)

Ignore them....they are both jerks.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 29, 2015 07:02 PM (Zu3d9)

8 Go Mike Flynn.

But Holy Shit, this country is over. The SCOTUS tyrants just said States can't force voters to prove identity. What in the fuckity fuck?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 29, 2015 07:02 PM (ODxAs)

9 Only 5? Wow!

Posted by: DM at June 29, 2015 07:03 PM (tYPH9)

10
And by identity I meant citizenship.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 29, 2015 07:04 PM (ODxAs)

11 Some critics alleged a reputation for pork barrel spending, including in support of campaign contributors. The Washington Post reported that of the $60 million in earmarks LaHood secured for his district in 2008, $9 million went to campaign donors. http://tinyurl.com/oswk84a

That's only 15% diverted for graft. B y Washington standards, Darin's daddy was off his game.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 29, 2015 07:04 PM (8ZskC)

12 Not getting the feed.

Has it started?

Posted by: Golfman at June 29, 2015 07:05 PM (48QDY)

13 Got it now.

Posted by: Golfman at June 29, 2015 07:06 PM (48QDY)

14 Me gusta la grasa latina sabia.

Posted by: Manuel Labor at June 29, 2015 07:06 PM (wAQA5)

15 It has started, each giving a 90 second intro

Posted by: Dave S. at June 29, 2015 07:06 PM (mhkbv)

16 LaHood goes for strong statements. "I'm glad we live here". Wow.

Posted by: pep at June 29, 2015 07:07 PM (LAe3v)

17 Darrin LaHood is all about the American Conservative Union, ethics the future.

And it all will mean nothing when he goes to Washington.

Have we been fooled by this before?

I forget.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 29, 2015 07:07 PM (RFeQD)

18 Why are there batteries rolling around on the table?

Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 07:08 PM (NUqwG)

19 Damn, battery rolls off table.

Posted by: pep at June 29, 2015 07:08 PM (LAe3v)

20 Wait, LaHood opposed Obamacare.

He voted to back a motion to repeal in the Illinois State Senate.

And this will all change when he goes to Washington.

A clear vision, a leader.

Shure.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 29, 2015 07:10 PM (RFeQD)

21 The rolling batteries are probably going to be more exciting than any of the candidate comments if present trends continue.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 07:10 PM (NUqwG)

22 LaHood's sounding mighty conservative.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 29, 2015 07:10 PM (AWijS)

23 God, this Rients guy is an idiot.

Posted by: pep at June 29, 2015 07:10 PM (LAe3v)

24 This fuck'n guy, LaHood, is nothing but a talking point regurgitater.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 29, 2015 07:10 PM (nkUcM)

25 Poor Rients just isn't cut out for this

Posted by: Dave S. at June 29, 2015 07:11 PM (mhkbv)

26 who the hell is Rients?

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 29, 2015 07:11 PM (AWijS)

27 14 Me gusta la grasa latina sabia.

Posted by: Manuel Labor at June 29, 2015 07:06 PM (wAQA5)

Manuel, Manuel. Let me explain...

/pokes finger in Manuel's eye

Posted by: Basil Fawlty at June 29, 2015 07:11 PM (EHU9F)

28 I think I may be able to vote for Flynn according to Cali voting laws.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 29, 2015 07:11 PM (H3SRF)

29 I see one again that Gabe is operating under the assumption that the Constitution says whatever the Supreme Court says it says, and that there are no other Constitutional actors who can expound on it.

This is judicial supremacy. This is not judicial review.

This is accepted as truth - but it should not be.

Posted by: SH at June 29, 2015 07:11 PM (gmeXX)

30 I am unable to find the SCOTUS vote on voter ID.Who did what?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Armed and Ready for Anna at June 29, 2015 07:11 PM (8marX)

31 Hey did LaHood ever vote in the IL Senate?

Posted by: lowandslow at June 29, 2015 07:11 PM (nkUcM)

32 >>> I've put up signs for Flynn, passed out literature for Flynn. Why do I get the feeling that the moment he lands in D.C. he become just as much part of the establishment that shock was?

i don't think he will. This is something in someone's bones. He really does not like government, and he does not like the establishment. He's been fighting it for years, maybe decades.

Posted by: ace at June 29, 2015 07:12 PM (bhepQ)

33 Posted by: OregonMuse at June 29, 2015 07:10 PM (AWijS)

Care to bet that this is as far right as he will go?

This is conservatism for expediency's sake.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 29, 2015 07:12 PM (Zu3d9)

34
26 who the hell is Rients?
Posted by: OregonMuse at June 29, 2015 07:11 PM (AWijS)

The guy the GOPe convinced to run to attempt to split up the anti-nepotism vote.

Posted by: buzzion at June 29, 2015 07:12 PM (z/Ubi)

35 Question to LaHood: why did you not agree to one-on-one debate with Flynn?

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 29, 2015 07:12 PM (AWijS)

36 It's pretty clear that LaHood isn't comfortable with moving beyond talking points. OTOH, Flynn comes across as wonkish.

I think he should punch LaHood.

Posted by: pep at June 29, 2015 07:12 PM (LAe3v)

37

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/29/ black-lives-matter-protesters-disrupt-chicago-gay-pride-parade/

LOLs

What do the candidates have to say about this post-modernist debacle?

Posted by: imp at June 29, 2015 07:12 PM (XIXZz)

38 Rients looks like the schluby, dimwitted kinda guy you'd have Stephen Root playing in a movie/sitcom to make your main character look cooler.

Posted by: El Kabong at June 29, 2015 07:12 PM (75gXb)

39 In a debate regarding the Constitution between Cruz and Gabe - side with Cruz.

Posted by: SH at June 29, 2015 07:13 PM (gmeXX)

40 6 I've put up signs for Flynn, passed out literature for Flynn. Why do I get the feeling that the moment he lands in D.C. he become just as much part of the establishment that shock was?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 29, 2015 07:02 PM (U7H1n)

Gee, I don't know. Because damn near all of them do.

Toomey and Costello are the latest turn coats for me. Costello didn't even last a week.

Posted by: Johnny Robbie at June 29, 2015 07:13 PM (fO0en)

41 I like the battery best at this point.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 07:14 PM (NUqwG)

42 I'll cut off my arm before voting for these twinks!

Posted by: hadoop at June 29, 2015 07:14 PM (2X7pN)

43 D.C. is a slime pit of corruption. It is always there. I hope you are right Ace. I just have no faith in politicians anymore.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 29, 2015 07:15 PM (U7H1n)

44 Ace, do you have any idea what the numbers are like around McLean county?

Posted by: Dave S. at June 29, 2015 07:15 PM (mhkbv)

45 I'm surprised that LaHood didn't demand that he not be seated next to Flynn.

Posted by: buzzion at June 29, 2015 07:16 PM (z/Ubi)

46 Reints is not an idiot at all. He is out of his league trying to be a politician.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 29, 2015 07:17 PM (U7H1n)

47 Every time LaHood goes after Flynn he just parrots whatever Flynn just said.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 29, 2015 07:17 PM (nkUcM)

48 LaHood is in favor of religion. Bold.

Posted by: pep at June 29, 2015 07:17 PM (LAe3v)

49 To answer Gabe's question about how I would feel if Obama didn't follow Citizens United - well I think he could bring a case against the next litigant and he'd probably lose. Which I'm sure Ted Cruz thinks to. But you definitely lose by acquiesing. And furthering the wrongly held belief that the Supreme Court is the supreme decider of what the Constitution means is not going to help us.

Posted by: SH at June 29, 2015 07:17 PM (gmeXX)

50 Eh, LaHood just seems like he is spouting talking points.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 29, 2015 07:17 PM (2XMpf)

51 LaHood mentioned Texas - 1 point.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 07:17 PM (NUqwG)

52 It's wrong of me to hope someone gets hit in the face by a chair, isn't it?

Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us SMOD at June 29, 2015 07:17 PM (IrByp)

53

Flynn has the virtue of being idealistic, but LaHood has the virtue of being a known entity. A corrupt one, but a known entity. I want to believe in Flynn, but after seeing "reformers" going back to the Gingrich era get turned into DC go-along-get-along toadstools, I have my doubts.

Posted by: imp at June 29, 2015 07:17 PM (XIXZz)

54 30
I am unable to find the SCOTUS vote on voter ID.Who did what?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Armed and Ready for Anna at June 29, 2015 07:11 PM (8marX)

from two threads down

The SCOTUS ruling is an old one that they had already shot down the AZ
law. AZ and KS tried to reword the law to provide a different wording.
What they had was State forms that required proof, the Supremes had
ruled that when using the Fed forms that required the "illegal" to swear
under the penalty of perjury that they were a citizen they could not
make them provide proof. Another court ruled that they could not get
around this by suing a State form for federal elections. SCOTUS did not
take the appeal which means the ruling stands based on not being able to
even get 4 judges to agree to take the case.

That means Kennedy AND Roberts sold us out.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:18 PM (GpgJl)

55 Tenth amendment comment by LaHood.

Where's he been for 100 years?

Posted by: Golfman at June 29, 2015 07:18 PM (48QDY)

56 I'm sorry for mucking up this thread. I see it is only for the Flynn / Lahood debate. Carry on.

Posted by: SH at June 29, 2015 07:18 PM (gmeXX)

57 Did you see what that preacher did to LaHood's men?

Posted by: Tin-pan miner up in Carbon Creek at June 29, 2015 07:18 PM (AxDuC)

58 I am unable to find the SCOTUS vote on voter ID.Who did what?

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No one did anything. For all we know Scalia, Alito and Thomas also denied cert. I suspect at least one did.

The issue does not appear to be very ripe at this moment.

Posted by: SH at June 29, 2015 07:19 PM (gmeXX)

59 Reints is not an idiot at all. He is out of his league trying to be a politician.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois

I see no evidence to support your assertion #1. I agree on #2.

Posted by: pep at June 29, 2015 07:19 PM (LAe3v)

60 Tenth amendment comment by LaHood.

Where's he been for 100 years?

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Is the 10th A the one that says the state must build mass transit?

Posted by: SH at June 29, 2015 07:20 PM (gmeXX)

61 You think voting for a conservative is going to get our country out of this socialist slide when it's the USSC making laws and the Republican GOPe enables the moarch who rules by diktat?

I have this bridge, on some beach front property, I'm thinking as you're a good guy I can let you have it for a special price, today only!

Posted by: Gmac- 'all politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at June 29, 2015 07:20 PM (4CRfK)

62 Reints seems like a bit on the paranoid side.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 29, 2015 07:21 PM (2XMpf)

63
So, Ace. I take it you like this guy Flynn?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:21 PM (St6BJ)

64 Uh-oh.

Posted by: Golfman at June 29, 2015 07:21 PM (48QDY)

65 Flynn is not nursing the water well. Minus 1 point.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 07:21 PM (NUqwG)

66 I won't be watching that. Life is too short.

Posted by: Eromero at June 29, 2015 07:22 PM (go5uR)

67 Is it just me or is this Reintz guy sound more like a shy middle school janitor than a Congressman?

Posted by: Living4Him5534 at June 29, 2015 07:22 PM (k+THl)

68 You can't be telling me there is such a thing as dirty politics. Oh, pashaa

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 29, 2015 07:22 PM (H3SRF)

69 60 Is the 10th A the one that says the state must build mass transit?
Posted by: SH at June 29, 2015 07:20 PM (gmeXX)

All hi-speed rail not specifically rejected by the people shall be reserved for the Federal Government. Like it or not.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 29, 2015 07:22 PM (St6BJ)

70 a guy asked what gun laws should be changed [to be more restrictive], who answers "None," and laughs the premise off, is just not a guy who's going to be quick to sell out to the liberal media consensus.

My two cents.

Posted by: ace at June 29, 2015 07:22 PM (bhepQ)

71 Reints is going for the subsidy vote

Posted by: chemjeff at June 29, 2015 07:22 PM (2XMpf)

72 Rients just said that ethanol should still be subsidized. Idiot.

Posted by: Old Blue at June 29, 2015 07:23 PM (9iR5/)

73 Reduce subsidies? How about no, you moron!

Posted by: Living4Him5534 at June 29, 2015 07:23 PM (k+THl)

74 Everything those two just said is bullshit.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 29, 2015 07:23 PM (CdIQH)

75 Is it just me or is this Reintz guy sound more like a shy middle school janitor than a Congressman?
Posted by: Living4Him5534 at June 29, 2015 07:22 PM (k+THl)
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Who better to clean up the DC mess than a janitor?
Reintz - +1 point

Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 07:23 PM (NUqwG)

76 Er, no subsidies, that is. Dang it, now I'm the moron. I've gone full Biden.

Posted by: Living4Him5534 at June 29, 2015 07:24 PM (k+THl)

77 Aaaand AZ got the shaft on the redistricting committee. We created a board to vote on the district lines. It was supposed to be equal representation. It wasn't
The so called independent was actually a hardcore dem pretending to be an I.
The result? Dems who should not have been elected, were. Good congressmen were lost.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Armed and Ready for Anna at June 29, 2015 07:24 PM (8marX)

78 'We must phase out methanol" - Minus 1 point Flynn

Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 07:24 PM (NUqwG)

79 Rients still thinks either he or the voters are whores and are simply negotiating a price

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 07:24 PM (zOTsN)

80 There's a jab.

Posted by: Dave S. at June 29, 2015 07:24 PM (mhkbv)

81 ha! Flynn gets in a jab at LaHood re: Florida sugar donations

Posted by: chemjeff at June 29, 2015 07:24 PM (2XMpf)

82 Savvy answer by Flynn on ethanol subsidies.

Posted by: holygoat at June 29, 2015 07:24 PM (uQsRs)

83 moarch = Monarch

Posted by: Gmac- 'all politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at June 29, 2015 07:24 PM (4CRfK)

84 Reints is absolutely scared to death of speaking in public. He is an introvert trying to compete in a extrovert world. He has been told so by many of his friends.

I will not vote for him but I applaud his effort.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 29, 2015 07:24 PM (91eZY)

85 Ooooh, burn. Sugar subsidies.

Posted by: pep at June 29, 2015 07:24 PM (LAe3v)

86 I wish that Mike could just tear into these guys, instead of having to dance around the fact that Rients is Lenny in a suit, and LaHood is an establishment d-bag.

Posted by: Living4Him5534 at June 29, 2015 07:25 PM (k+THl)

87 Tell me Rients just wandered in off the street and they gave him a seat at the table because he looked tired.

Posted by: Weirddave at June 29, 2015 07:25 PM (WvS3w)

88 I FAVOR CONSERVATIVIVISIVISIVISM

Posted by: Reints at June 29, 2015 07:26 PM (2XMpf)

89 It's not here on the blog, but the Supreme Court just ended America officially. They have ruled that no state can ask for ID when voting.

So now, unless Republicans play the same games of signing up dead people, busing homeless from polling place to polling place, buying votes, voting early and often, etc. then there won't be any more in Washington.

Elections are officially part of the THEATER of "Democracy" now. Dark times.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 29, 2015 07:26 PM (S2VsH)

90 Reints is there to split the vote for La Hood. The Ross Perot candidate.

Posted by: Old Blue at June 29, 2015 07:26 PM (9iR5/)

91 I've voting for the batteries at this point.

BTW, AlextheChick - I wanted to apologise for my comments on the earlier tread, I did not mean them, and they were out of line.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at June 29, 2015 07:26 PM (YYJjz)

92 Flynn's words are not matching up with his mouth (3 seconds behind). Hard to trust a guy who does that.

Posted by: Serious Cat at June 29, 2015 07:26 PM (UypUQ)

93 " They have ruled that no state can ask for ID when voting.
"

Wait, what?

Posted by: Lauren at June 29, 2015 07:26 PM (MYCIw)

94 Can't watch but I hope Flynn is holding up well.

Posted by: logprof at June 29, 2015 07:27 PM (ivW4B)

95 Flynnie looks pissed off. Minus 1 point

Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 07:27 PM (NUqwG)

96 "If we can't sell freedom then we do, indeed, suck." Wow, that is an awesome quote. It's also why the Republicans suck, and proof that they are not about freedom at all.

Posted by: Living4Him5534 at June 29, 2015 07:27 PM (k+THl)

97 If we can't sell Freedom, then we do indeed suck. - Mike Flynn

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 29, 2015 07:27 PM (RFeQD)

98 People aren't going to understand Flynn's conservative answer.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 29, 2015 07:27 PM (nkUcM)

99 States never ask for ID. Election Officials ask for ID.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 29, 2015 07:28 PM (CdIQH)

100 Can't watch but I hope Flynn is holding up well.
Posted by: logprof at June 29, 2015 07:27 PM (ivW4B)
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I think he might be about to fall under the table and he appears to be out of water. Anything could happen now.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 07:28 PM (NUqwG)

101 Posted by: Lauren at June 29, 2015 07:26 PM (MYCIw)

Sorry, I should have been more clear (I read it a little wrong). States may not demand ID when REGISTERING voters. Which means all registrations are, from here on out, suspect.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 29, 2015 07:28 PM (S2VsH)

102 Monorail!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 29, 2015 07:28 PM (jR7Wy)

103 wtf just happened with those doddering fools now?

non-citizens can vote?

Posted by: UppityOrchid at June 29, 2015 07:28 PM (eR2aG)

104 In before the Establishment Toadys!

Posted by: Grump928(C) waxes Populist, try it, it's fun! at June 29, 2015 07:28 PM (rwI+c)

105 WOW... just watched one single response from each candidate on "what is conservatism?" and Mike Flynn isn't even in the same LEAGUE as those LOSERS!

Posted by: Chris M at June 29, 2015 07:29 PM (oed8N)

106 High Speed Rail!

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 29, 2015 07:29 PM (CdIQH)

107 THERE we go, get 'im! HAHAHAHA! LaHood won't even touch what Flynn said.

Posted by: Living4Him5534 at June 29, 2015 07:29 PM (k+THl)

108 Monorail!

Posted by: pep at June 29, 2015 07:29 PM (LAe3v)

109 So why do I have to give my ID when registering for firearm transfers? Of course, it's not like there's any consistency in these laws or rulings ...

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 29, 2015 07:29 PM (0NdlF)

110 Well, I guess Flynn's against the monorail, too.

Too bad, Springfield.

Wait, is this a Simpson's episode?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 29, 2015 07:29 PM (RFeQD)

111 North Haverbrook has one !

Posted by: Roman Maroni at June 29, 2015 07:29 PM (vCA4F)

112 Hey, did some one say "Rails!??"

Posted by: Lisa Murkowski at June 29, 2015 07:30 PM (LHLRD)

113 Thanks SH. I see what happened. They let the garbage ruling from the 10th stand by refusing to hear.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Armed and Ready for Anna at June 29, 2015 07:30 PM (8marX)

114 High speed rail subsidies are subsidies? LaHood must have gotten that tip from Daddie - Minus 1 point

Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 07:30 PM (NUqwG)

115 Joe Biden hardest hit

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 07:30 PM (zOTsN)

116 What a minute, LaHood is for high speed rail if we have a surplus? Quite the conservative.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 29, 2015 07:30 PM (nkUcM)

117 Flynn's words are not matching up with his mouth (3 seconds behind). Hard to trust a guy who does that.

LaHood can answer *while* drinking a glass of water.

Posted by: Grump928(C) waxes Populist, try it, it's fun! at June 29, 2015 07:31 PM (rwI+c)

118 Reints is absolutely scared to death of speaking in public. He is an
introvert trying to compete in a extrovert world. He has been told so by
many of his friends.

A man's got to know his limitations.

Posted by: pep at June 29, 2015 07:31 PM (LAe3v)

119 LaHood has three children. No poofy fag there!

Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 07:31 PM (NUqwG)

120 Subsidation -
1. the act of subsidizing something.
or
2. not a word, just a mistake mumbled by grey-suited goons who spew "Conserva-talk" in order to try and get elected

Posted by: Living4Him5534 at June 29, 2015 07:31 PM (k+THl)

121
Drudge has the headline on voting rights.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 29, 2015 07:31 PM (ODxAs)

122 LaHood can answer *while* drinking a glass of water.
Posted by: Grump928(C) waxes Populist, try it, it's fun!

Someone's got his hand up his ass. I wonder who??

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 29, 2015 07:31 PM (RFeQD)

123 Oh, high-speed rails...it's more of Shelbyville idea...

Posted by: Lisa Murkowski at June 29, 2015 07:31 PM (LHLRD)

124 Good opportunity here. Abortion..

Supreme Court. Says law of the land. They are now the final arbiter now.

Posted by: Golfman at June 29, 2015 07:32 PM (48QDY)

125 Drudge is click baiting and being a bit misleading

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 07:32 PM (zOTsN)

126 I sort of like Flynn's in your face manner of dress. Heh.

Posted by: Old Blue at June 29, 2015 07:32 PM (9iR5/)

127 93
" They have ruled that no state can ask for ID when voting.

"

Wait, what?

Posted by: Lauren at June 29, 2015 07:26 PM (MYCIw)

No that is incorrect. No case had anything to do with voter ID

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:32 PM (GpgJl)

128 I feel like Rients is the well-meaning but confused uncle at the family dinner table.

Posted by: Living4Him5534 at June 29, 2015 07:32 PM (k+THl)

129 Subsidies come from the Subsidy Fairy?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 29, 2015 07:33 PM (CdIQH)

130 LaHood has three children. No poofy fag there!

Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence, unless there has be a YouTube Sex Tape.

Off to Google!

Posted by: Grump928(C) waxes Populist, try it, it's fun! at June 29, 2015 07:33 PM (rwI+c)

131 High speed rail From Peoria would be popular. Going to? Another story.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 29, 2015 07:34 PM (6yehy)

132 Rients: "Rodent transit improvements?"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 29, 2015 07:34 PM (jR7Wy)

133 High speed rail From Peoria would be popular. Going to? Another story.

I chortled out loud.

Posted by: Grump928(C) waxes Populist, try it, it's fun! at June 29, 2015 07:34 PM (rwI+c)

134 Rients looks at that microphone like it's a chocolate ice cream cone. Five bucks says he bites it.

Posted by: Living4Him5534 at June 29, 2015 07:34 PM (k+THl)

135 five bucks says the Smails kid eats it

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 07:35 PM (zOTsN)

136 I Flynn thee, knave!

Posted by: eman at June 29, 2015 07:35 PM (tQOOF)

137 Thank God someone is FINALLY addressing surplus F-35's.

Posted by: Living4Him5534 at June 29, 2015 07:35 PM (k+THl)

138 So why do I have to give my ID when registering for
firearm transfers? Of course, it's not like there's any consistency in
these laws or rulings ...

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 29, 2015 07:29 PM (0NdlF)

Because there is a slight possibility of you, as an individual, shooting someone requires gun registration.
But the high probablity of the government shooting you due to rigged elections, not a problem!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 29, 2015 07:35 PM (ftVQq)

139
In my state, if you are registered you can vote. No ID required. So if no ID required to register, anybody can vote.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 29, 2015 07:36 PM (ODxAs)

140 A chortle is between a snicker and a laugh, yes?

Posted by: Grump928(C) waxes Populist, try it, it's fun! at June 29, 2015 07:36 PM (rwI+c)

141 No that is incorrect. No case had anything to do with voter ID

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:32 PM (GpgJl)

Hrm, had to go look it up. Legally correct term is that they declined to hear an appeal from two states, AZ and KS, on a lower court's ruling.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/29/supreme-court-throws-out-arizona-kansas-voter-id-appeal/

But the gist is that no state can attempt to verify the right to vote, because the Fed Gov says states can't use a higher voter eligibility standard than itself.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 29, 2015 07:36 PM (0NdlF)

142 or between a snicker and a chuckle?

Posted by: Grump928(C) waxes Soothie at June 29, 2015 07:36 PM (rwI+c)

143 101 Sorry, I should have been more clear (I read it a
little wrong). States may not demand ID when REGISTERING voters. Which
means all registrations are, from here on out, suspect.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 29, 2015 07:28 PM (S2VsH)

That is also incorrect. They would not take the case at all and let an appellate court ruling stand that said you can not use a State Registration form for registering that required PROOF of citizenship. SCOTUS had already ruled on this previously over a year ago. AZ and KS were trying to get around that ruling.

This had NOTHING to do with voter ID when voting or registering.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:36 PM (GpgJl)

144 Why is that Mike Flynn is the only one reporting facts, figures, and current laws/legislation, and the others are simply burbling "Conserva-talk?"

Posted by: Living4Him5534 at June 29, 2015 07:36 PM (k+THl)

145 I have to believe that Flynn hired actors to portray Rients and LaHood, because he's just so much better than they are.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 29, 2015 07:37 PM (jR7Wy)

146 Is LaHood pissing on his dad for poorly running the Fed DoT?

Posted by: lowandslow at June 29, 2015 07:38 PM (nkUcM)

147 the others are simply burbling "Conserva-talk?

It's like it's a second language to them. And only Conversational Conservatism at that.

Posted by: Grump928(C) waxes Soothie at June 29, 2015 07:38 PM (rwI+c)

148 No that is incorrect. No case had anything to do with voter ID

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:32 PM (GpgJl)

Uh....not really.

They declined to hear a case from a lower court. That makes case law just as powerfully as hearing the case.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 29, 2015 07:38 PM (Zu3d9)

149 Flynn comes across as angry; more like a moron than a pol. People don't like that.

Posted by: pep at June 29, 2015 07:38 PM (LAe3v)

150 seriously, without being nice to me-- he's killing it right?

Posted by: ace at June 29, 2015 07:39 PM (bhepQ)

151 Grump928(C) waxes Soothie

Probably took a couple years in high school, dabbled in college to impress a girl, and can't understand it any longer.

Posted by: Living4Him5534 at June 29, 2015 07:39 PM (k+THl)

152 absofuckinglutely ace

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 29, 2015 07:40 PM (0O7c5)

153 Time to repo Puerto Rico.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 29, 2015 07:40 PM (CdIQH)

154 That was quite a good answer. I hope he keeps jabbing at LaHood while not coming across as a a-hole. That sugar subsidy info was perfectly delivered. LaHood isn't nimble, he can't handle a deftly delivered jab.

Posted by: Dave S. at June 29, 2015 07:40 PM (mhkbv)

155 Is the casual look a Flynn thing?

Posted by: Grump928(C) witdraws his consent at June 29, 2015 07:41 PM (rwI+c)

156 I've been burned by candidates before, Ace, but I think you backed a good horse here. He seems like the real deal.

Posted by: Living4Him5534 at June 29, 2015 07:41 PM (k+THl)

157 This had NOTHING to do with voter ID when voting or registering.

I thought voter ID meant using documents to establish identity as part of voting or registering.

How is providing documented proof of citizenship when registering to vote not part of that category?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 29, 2015 07:41 PM (0NdlF)

158
No Vic. AZ and KS wanted people to prove their citizenship when applying with the federal form. So if someone is not checked using the federal form, who in the world is supposed to check citizenship?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 29, 2015 07:41 PM (ODxAs)

159 >>>Flynn comes across as angry;

he really hates these guys/the system.

but he's doing much better than in the first one, where his contempt for LaHood and DC was palpable.

Posted by: ace at June 29, 2015 07:41 PM (bhepQ)

160 Carly Fiorina is now "A lady in the race" Yea Gods.

Posted by: Weirddave at June 29, 2015 07:41 PM (WvS3w)

161 149
Flynn comes across as angry; more like a moron than a pol. People don't like that.

Great for me (us), but we aren't normal.

Posted by: pep at June 29, 2015 07:42 PM (LAe3v)

162 148 They declined to hear a case from a lower court. That makes case law just as powerfully as hearing the case.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 29, 2015 07:38 PM (Zu3d9)

But it still had nothing to do with ID. It had to do with PROOF of citizenship. The federal form for registration for federal elections only requires the potential voter to swear under penalty of perjury that they are a citizen. It requires no proof or documentation. And you can not get around that by using a State form that does require proof.

I'll leave it to you to figure out where that lax crap came from since the Constitution thinks the States are in charge of how the citizens in the State vote.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:42 PM (GpgJl)

163 ace, I think Flynn is doing a good job. The only knock I might say about him is that he seems a little bit too smug.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 29, 2015 07:42 PM (2XMpf)

164 LaHood has three children. No poofy fag there!

Good old 13, 11 and 8.

Posted by: Weirddave at June 29, 2015 07:42 PM (WvS3w)

165 141 No that is incorrect. No case had anything to do with voter ID

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:32 PM (GpgJl)

Hrm, had to go look it up. Legally correct term is that they declined to hear an appeal from two states, AZ and KS, on a lower court's ruling.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/29/supreme-court-throws-out-arizona-kansas-voter-id-appeal/

But the gist is that no state can attempt to verify the right to vote, because the Fed Gov says states can't use a higher voter eligibility standard than itself.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 29, 2015 07:36 PM (0NdlF)

____________

It wasn't ID. It was proof of citizenship when registering to vote.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at June 29, 2015 07:42 PM (0LHZx)

166 "Dur, local level...uh, free market...gah... no FEDERAL GOVERNMENT! Because bad." Way to go, Rients. Eloquent.

Posted by: Living4Him5534 at June 29, 2015 07:42 PM (k+THl)

167
So Vic, if states cannot require proof of citizenship for voter registration ..... then there is theoretically no limit to illegal aliens (or legal aliens, for that matter, also with no legal right to vote) becoming registered voters. Right?

Seems like a tiny, eentsy beentsy little elections integrity problem there.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 29, 2015 07:42 PM (QDnY+)

168 Can Ace host a debate at a brew pub with periodic mandatory shots at such triggers as "monorail" or "Bush"?

(I'm currently enjoying a Ballast Point grapefruit sculpin. Very refreshing.)

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 29, 2015 07:42 PM (jR7Wy)

169 Posted by: ace at June 29, 2015 07:39 PM (bhepQ)

No, I don't think he is killing it.

LaHood sounds good. Very polished.

Flynn is obviously more intelligent and has much more command of the issues, but this is a beauty pageant as well as an intellectual debate.

[but I am always hypercritical]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 29, 2015 07:42 PM (Zu3d9)

170
"seriously, without being nice to me-- he's killing it right?"

I don't know ace, I like his performance but I'm biased. Average (R) LIV? LaHood probably looks better.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 29, 2015 07:43 PM (nkUcM)

171 Can't get the damn html5 player to work, curses!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 29, 2015 07:43 PM (ftVQq)

172 BTW, AlextheChick - I wanted to apologise for my comments on the earlier tread, I did not mean them, and they were out of line.
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at June 29, 2015 07:26 PM (YYJjz)

Apology unnecessary but gratefully accepted.

Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us SMOD at June 29, 2015 07:43 PM (IrByp)

173 And here comes Flynn explaining WHY it is bad. This is what Conservatism needs.

Posted by: Living4Him5534 at June 29, 2015 07:43 PM (k+THl)

174 Carly Fiorina is now "A lady in the race" Yea Gods.
Posted by: Weirddave at June 29, 2015 07:41 PM (WvS3w)
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At least the Black guy's name got mentioned. That would have been ackward otherwise!

Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 07:43 PM (NUqwG)

175 "Flynn comes across as angry; "

Good

Posted by: Lauren at June 29, 2015 07:44 PM (MYCIw)

176 he's killing it right?

I'd buy some cheese from him.

Posted by: Grump928(C) witdraws his consent at June 29, 2015 07:44 PM (rwI+c)

177 I think Flynn will pull it out.

Central Illinois is a contrary as heck place. We do stuff just because it will piss people off. Doesn't matter is it is good or not, just as long someone gets mad about what we did.

the gopE messed up. They should have chosen Flynn to back. Then lahoodie would probably win.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 29, 2015 07:44 PM (6yehy)

178 What is up with battery man?

Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 07:44 PM (NUqwG)

179 OTOH, LaHood sounds like he's getting his answers from a Magic 8-Ball.

Posted by: pep at June 29, 2015 07:44 PM (LAe3v)

180 Seems like a tiny, eentsy beentsy little elections integrity problem there.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 29, 2015 07:42 PM (QDnY+)

Disparate Impact yo!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 29, 2015 07:44 PM (ftVQq)

181 Is LaHood pissing on his dad for poorly running the Fed DoT?

Posted by: lowandslow

Ha-Ha. Sounds like, doesn't it?

These are just words.

Here are some other words.

tell me about the rabbits again

what we have here is a failure to communicate

Think your tough? There's half a million scarecrows in Denver that would kill for a mouthful of what you have.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 29, 2015 07:44 PM (RFeQD)

182 ATC you are a classy broad and a way bigger person (on the inside)

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 07:44 PM (zOTsN)

183 Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 29, 2015 07:42 PM (jR7Wy)

Huzzah!

Sculpin (and the grapefruit one) is awesome. Ballast Point is a great brewery.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 29, 2015 07:45 PM (Zu3d9)

184 Rients is not terrible.

Posted by: Grump928(C) witdraws his consent at June 29, 2015 07:45 PM (rwI+c)

185 The other candidates are looking to Flynn for factual answers when they aren't sure.

Do we have any polling in this race?

Posted by: Weirddave at June 29, 2015 07:45 PM (WvS3w)

186 Yeah Ace, Mike is doing much better this "debate". Doesn't have the hostile moderator who fixed the candidate forum.

Challenge is the $$$. LaHood's cronies are blanketing Quincy with on-air ads day and night right now.

Posted by: LiveFromRussianHill at June 29, 2015 07:45 PM (LHLRD)

187 157 I thought voter ID meant using documents to establish identity as part of voting or registering.

How is providing documented proof of citizenship when registering to vote not part of that category?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 29, 2015 07:41 PM (0NdlF)

There have been numerous cases brought by Holder to try and block voter ID laws. He has lost every time. The State can require you to show an ID when registering, and even a picture ID if it meets the standards. It just can not require you to provide birth certificates etc. It is a totally different issue.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:45 PM (GpgJl)

188 Apology unnecessary but gratefully accepted.

Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us SMOD at June 29, 2015 07:43 PM (IrByp)

Must be a sock!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 29, 2015 07:45 PM (ftVQq)

189 Hong Kong FTW!

Posted by: Grump928(C) witdraws his consent at June 29, 2015 07:46 PM (rwI+c)

190 ATC is a Tardis?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Armed and Ready for Anna at June 29, 2015 07:46 PM (8marX)

191 Go get him, Mike!

Posted by: Living4Him5534 at June 29, 2015 07:46 PM (k+THl)

192 Bang!

Flynn with the atomic wedgie for the win!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 29, 2015 07:46 PM (Zu3d9)

193 Must be a sock!

IT'S A TRAP!

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 29, 2015 07:46 PM (rwI+c)

194 158

No Vic. AZ and KS wanted people to prove their citizenship when
applying with the federal form. So if someone is not checked using the
federal form, who in the world is supposed to check citizenship?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 29, 2015 07:41 PM (ODxAs)

That is the very point I was making. You can NOT make them provide PROOF. They only have to swear under oath and affirmation that they are a citizen.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:47 PM (GpgJl)

195 And then, LaHood punched Mike Flynn....

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 29, 2015 07:47 PM (RFeQD)

196 I like how Flynn is unequivocal in all his answers. No squishy squashy answers.

Posted by: Heidi at June 29, 2015 07:47 PM (uWhHk)

197
and that's when the fight broke out...

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 07:48 PM (zOTsN)

198 I'm not believing that LaHood is for a flat tax, but he pitches it more or less believably.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 29, 2015 07:48 PM (rwI+c)

199 I doubt any LIVs are watching this, but I have to say, LaHood showing up in a nice suit with a good haircut goes a long way with the LIV crowd.
Just saying.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at June 29, 2015 07:48 PM (nJvB1)

200
The way I read it is the States can not ask you for ID when registering with the federal form. Period.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 29, 2015 07:48 PM (ODxAs)

201 Very good answer on teacher's unions!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 29, 2015 07:49 PM (jR7Wy)

202 Guy Mohawk nails it

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 07:49 PM (zOTsN)

203 Uh oh, LaHood's pissing off Lionel Hutz!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 29, 2015 07:49 PM (jR7Wy)

204 167 Seems like a tiny, eentsy beentsy little elections integrity problem there.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 29, 2015 07:42 PM (QDnY+)

Seems like an open invitation for fraud. But there is a loophole there. Proof of citizenship can still be required for State and local office voting. The previous ruling which they allowed to stand only applies to federal voting.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:49 PM (GpgJl)

205 Ace, *is* the casual dress a Flynn thing? Like the Lumberjack guy? Or did he just lose his luggage?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 29, 2015 07:50 PM (rwI+c)

206 ATC you are a classy broad and a way bigger person (on the inside)
Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 07:44 PM (zOTsN)

Awwww. *toe scuff*

Thanks.

Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us SMOD at June 29, 2015 07:50 PM (IrByp)

207 Don't use the Federal Form.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 29, 2015 07:50 PM (CdIQH)

208
Just as an FYI, from what I've seen of US election integrity (voter registration, primarily) procedures and standards, our federal elections wouldn't pass muster with international/UN norms for same. (some states are not too bad, but this citizenship-sans-proof thing is a disqualifier)

And, of course, the US, via the UN and directly, for years has provided assistance and oversight to countries, for example, emerging from civil wars, with no previous history of elected government, to meet these international norms. Part of the formula that underlies the blessing of "free and fair" for such elections from the US, UN, and major developed countries. I've participated in such activities in countries emerging from long civil wars.

So there's that. The US in its wisdom refuses to adopt standards it considers the norm in election integrity. Perfect, really.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 29, 2015 07:50 PM (QDnY+)

209 it applies to registering. They can still ask for ID when you vote

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 07:50 PM (zOTsN)

210 Flynn is kicking ass tonight. His only faults are minor style things like needing to back off of the mic a bit and playing with the battery or mic cable while he's talking. But he's far more comfortable and in charge compared to the last debate, and he's been aggressive attacking LaHood without being too aggressive.

Posted by: holygoat at June 29, 2015 07:51 PM (uQsRs)

211 Ace, *is* the casual dress a Flynn thing? Like the Lumberjack guy? Or did he just lose his luggage?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 29, 2015 07:50 PM (rwI+c)
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Thank goodness he still has his battery. I was worried for a moment.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 07:51 PM (NUqwG)

212 Rients...is...so...awkward...holy...crap...

Posted by: Living4Him5534 at June 29, 2015 07:51 PM (k+THl)

213 That doesn't surprise me, Mr. Reints

Posted by: Dave S. at June 29, 2015 07:51 PM (mhkbv)

214 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:49 PM (GpgJl)

Name one state that has separate voter registration for state and federal elections. For that matter, name one state that has separate state and federal election ballots on election day.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 29, 2015 07:51 PM (S2VsH)

215 Donald Rients wants a magic wand.

Interesting.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 29, 2015 07:51 PM (RFeQD)

216
Ok, I guess Vic and I are saying the same thing.

*Turn on your hearing aids Vic.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 29, 2015 07:51 PM (ODxAs)

217 Rients...is...so...awkward...holy...crap...

I think it's endearing, which probably cuts against Flynn, sadly.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 29, 2015 07:52 PM (rwI+c)

218 200

The way I read it is the States can not ask you for ID when registering with the federal form. Period.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 29, 2015 07:48 PM (ODxAs)

Not what I read

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:52 PM (GpgJl)

219 Did anyone puke up a snake yet?

Posted by: Rick Perry at June 29, 2015 07:52 PM (CdIQH)

220 I was watching but can't comment. Now I have open in two tabs!

Posted by: Carol at June 29, 2015 07:52 PM (sj3Ax)

221 Carly Fiorina is now "A lady in the race" Yea Gods.

I like Carly. She won't win the nomination, nor do I want her to, but she is useful because but she can continue pummeling the crap out of Hillary! while being immune to being called "anti-woman" by the feminazis.

Posted by: OregonMuse at June 29, 2015 07:53 PM (AWijS)

222 LaHood is so full of shit, I'm waiting for him to say, "Build the dang fence!"

Posted by: lowandslow at June 29, 2015 07:53 PM (nkUcM)

223 My cat's breath smells like cat food

Posted by: Donald Rients at June 29, 2015 07:53 PM (WvS3w)

224 Wait, pass a law to reign in the Federal Government?

What an idea!

Wait a minute, what about that whole Constitution thing?

Mike, who's right here?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 29, 2015 07:53 PM (RFeQD)

225 207
Don't use the Federal Form.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 29, 2015 07:50 PM (CdIQH)

That is exactly what AZ and KS were trying to do and the courts shot them down. They appealed and the Supremes stiffed it meaning that not even 4 agreed to hear the case.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:53 PM (GpgJl)

226 218 200

The way I read it is the States can not ask you for ID when registering with the federal form. Period.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 29, 2015 07:48 PM (ODxAs)

Not what I read
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:52 PM (GpgJl)

__________

That's pretty much it.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at June 29, 2015 07:54 PM (0LHZx)

227 Every state has it's own EPA. The national one is redundant and destructive.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 29, 2015 07:54 PM (rwI+c)

228
wait....

So we don't agree, I'm confused by your wily posting.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 29, 2015 07:54 PM (ODxAs)

229
Vic - so, as a practical matter, wouldn't state-requirements in effect trump this stupid federal restriction, as voters show up to vote on all matters (state, local, federal) at one time and place, usually?

I mean, you're handed one ballot, or whatever, with all these things on it. Unless there are two ballots, polling places, or election times, then it's a unitary process. So a state with reasonable (i.e., citizenship-proof required) registration standards would, in effect, be vetting their voters for citizenship.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 29, 2015 07:54 PM (QDnY+)

230 Posted by: OregonMuse at June 29, 2015 07:53 PM (AWijS)

Tell me more about this "immunity from being called anti-woman". I find the concept fascinating.

Posted by: Sarah Palin at June 29, 2015 07:54 PM (S2VsH)

231 Grump928(C)

Really? Endearing? I like my politicians to be smarter than me. Quick thinkers, good speakers. Maybe he's a swell guy and a reliable conservative, but that's just not enough for me now.

Posted by: Living4Him5534 at June 29, 2015 07:54 PM (k+THl)

232 showing up in a nice suit with a good haircut

A man of substance!

Posted by: Low Information Voter at June 29, 2015 07:55 PM (Dwehj)

233 >>52 It's wrong of me to hope someone gets hit in the face by a chair, isn't it?
Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us SMOD at June 29, 2015 07:17 PM (IrByp)

Once upon a time, someone on springer threw a shoe at someone they were mad at. I'm rooting for that.

Posted by: Lea at June 29, 2015 07:55 PM (vmMMi)

234 214 Name one state that has separate voter registration
for state and federal elections. For that matter, name one state that
has separate state and federal election ballots on election day.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 29, 2015 07:51 PM (S2VsH)

Probably none right now, but it would not surprise me that at least AZ is pissed off enough to go to that now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:56 PM (GpgJl)

235 Yeah, enduring. I could almost make myself believe that he would do what he says he will do.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 29, 2015 07:56 PM (rwI+c)

236 Flynn looks and acts like he is running for the Peoria city council.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 07:56 PM (NUqwG)

237 232
showing up in a nice suit with a good haircut

A man of substance!

Posted by: Low Information Vote

Creases?

Posted by: pep at June 29, 2015 07:56 PM (LAe3v)

238
This thread has me in stitches, for various reasons, but sadly time for the gym.

RioBravo, you are henceforth put in charge of all battery-related matters here at the HQ.

You've earned it!

Posted by: rhomboid at June 29, 2015 07:56 PM (QDnY+)

239 Grump928(C)

I hear ya. I feel like our country is in such a bad place that we need fiery leaders to make it happen. Flynn is that guy.

Posted by: Living4Him5534 at June 29, 2015 07:57 PM (k+THl)

240 It isn't really a debate until someone beats Geraldo's Ass.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 29, 2015 07:57 PM (CdIQH)

241 Okay now Flynn's coming off as a little whiny.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 29, 2015 07:57 PM (2XMpf)

242 Rients would probably make a good county commissioner.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 29, 2015 07:57 PM (rwI+c)

243 Flynn drops the bomb.

Posted by: holygoat at June 29, 2015 07:57 PM (uQsRs)

244 There have been numerous cases brought by Holder to try and block voter ID laws. He has lost every time. The State can require you to show an ID when registering, and even a picture ID if it meets the standards. It just can not require you to provide birth certificates etc. It is a totally different issue.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:45 PM (GpgJl)

I consider birth certificates a form of ID, but I think I get your objection.

Fair enough. Other types of Voter ID still available, headlines/summaries overly sensational.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 29, 2015 07:57 PM (0NdlF)

245 Weapons grade snark from Flynn.

Posted by: pep at June 29, 2015 07:57 PM (LAe3v)

246 Did I hear Calhoun County, S.C. may get a name change to ubama County? Or have I been a victim of a stroke?

Posted by: Eromero at June 29, 2015 07:57 PM (go5uR)

247 Okay now Flynn's coming off as a little whiny.

Yeah, I don't like this tact.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 29, 2015 07:58 PM (rwI+c)

248
Fiorina was TERRIBLE was when running for Senate in California.

She ran as a moderate D.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 29, 2015 07:58 PM (4oVym)

249 Nice "Put-up-your-dukes" moment from Flynn.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at June 29, 2015 07:58 PM (OQ9R7)

250 I was driving to Rite Aid yesterday and saw a 5 jet close group formation, must of been the navy practicing. I miss the air show here. I will call that city to the north Not Lake Forrest thank you very much. It will always be El Toro.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 29, 2015 07:58 PM (H3SRF)

251 Whoa, LaHood killed on that answer.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 29, 2015 07:59 PM (rwI+c)

252 229

Vic - so, as a practical matter, wouldn't state-requirements in
effect trump this stupid federal restriction, as voters show up to vote
on all matters (state, local, federal) at one time and place, usually?

I
mean, you're handed one ballot, or whatever, with all these things on
it. Unless there are two ballots, polling places, or election times,
then it's a unitary process. So a state with reasonable (i.e.,
citizenship-proof required) registration standards would, in effect, be
vetting their voters for citizenship.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 29, 2015 07:54 PM (QDnY+)

Que opening sequence for The Outer Limits

We control the forms, we control the voting. Do not try to read your Constitution. You are now in the The Liberal Government Limits

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 07:59 PM (GpgJl)

253 "What you see is what you get."

I know man. That's why I want Flynn.

Posted by: Living4Him5534 at June 29, 2015 07:59 PM (k+THl)

254 Reints was in prison???

Posted by: chemjeff at June 29, 2015 07:59 PM (2XMpf)

255 Donald has little boy haircut!

Posted by: Carol at June 29, 2015 08:00 PM (sj3Ax)

256 Rients looks like the kid who's about to have his lunch money started.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 29, 2015 08:00 PM (KUa85)

257 I fear 60+ year olds will look at Flynn and think he was kind of mean to that nice LaHood fellow.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 29, 2015 08:00 PM (nkUcM)

258 A Turkish Prison?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 29, 2015 08:00 PM (CdIQH)

259 AZ wanted the EAC to put the citizenship question on the federal form. EAC refused, so we sued. Appellate court said we can't force the EAC to do it. We appealed, SCROTUS ducked the issue.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at June 29, 2015 08:00 PM (l7Kbv)

260 Flynn throws the red meat!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 29, 2015 08:00 PM (rwI+c)

261 started = stolen

Posted by: naturalfake at June 29, 2015 08:01 PM (KUa85)

262 Prison Guard.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 29, 2015 08:01 PM (nkUcM)

263 246
Did I hear Calhoun County, S.C. may get a name change to ubama County? Or have I been a victim of a stroke?

Posted by: Eromero at June 29, 2015 07:57 PM (go5uR)

haven't heard a word about it but I would seriously doubt it. It would require a State Constitution change.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 08:01 PM (GpgJl)

264 "Pieces of Silver" smack! ...That's Restaurant Quality.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at June 29, 2015 08:01 PM (OQ9R7)

265
That was a good Flynn answer.

LaHood saying he is a conservative is not believable. His dad said it too.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 29, 2015 08:01 PM (ODxAs)

266 LaHood has clearly decided that it isn't to his benefit to go toe-to-toe with Flynn. He's probably right about that.

Posted by: pep at June 29, 2015 08:01 PM (LAe3v)

267 Oh, prison guard. That makes more sense.

I can't imagine Reints would actually survive a stint in the pokey.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 29, 2015 08:02 PM (2XMpf)

268 30 pieces of silver? A C.S. Lewis reference.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 29, 2015 08:02 PM (CdIQH)

269 Purple thumbs. You vote your thumb gets purpled. Stuff that leaves evidence even after you try to wash it off.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 29, 2015 08:02 PM (QLqUE)

270 I love that children of God quote. That is perfect

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 08:03 PM (zOTsN)

271 Have the gloves come off?

Posted by: fluffy at June 29, 2015 08:03 PM (2iV3X)

272 PRISON?

Posted by: Al Sharpton at June 29, 2015 08:04 PM (Dwehj)

273 LaHood saying he is a conservative is not believable. His dad said it too.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk

He was....acting!

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 29, 2015 08:04 PM (RFeQD)

274 From watching the last half-hour only:

Lahood spoke things. Flynn knew them.

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at June 29, 2015 08:04 PM (OQ9R7)

275 One thing (besides the dress code/LIV appeal thing) -- I don't like the way Flynn keeps referring to LaHood in the 3rd person. "Since his family's been in Congress" etc.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at June 29, 2015 08:04 PM (nJvB1)

276 Usually Illinois politicians go to prison after they are elected.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 29, 2015 08:05 PM (CdIQH)

277 30 pieces of silver? A C.S. Lewis reference.

Posted by: Boss Moss

Or maybe that Bible thing with Judas and the Pharisees.

Just spitballin' here.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 29, 2015 08:05 PM (RFeQD)

278 IF all I saw was this debate and knew nothing else, I'd be satisfied with any of the candidates. Is Flynn making a big enough impression in the district?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 29, 2015 08:05 PM (rwI+c)

279 Usually Illinois politicians go to prison after they are elected.

Posted by: Boss Moss

Rients has that off his bucket list.

Next, more bad hair and bribes!

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 29, 2015 08:07 PM (RFeQD)

280 Time for me to shut it down for the night for disk clean up and beddy-bye. Morning link time comes early and I have a DR's appointment over in the "the city" early.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at June 29, 2015 08:07 PM (GpgJl)

281 Is Flynn out shaking hands at the mall, for instance? As an aside, Father928 ran for office a couple of times and just wouldn't do the things you need to do to win in retail politics, despite my urgings. He thought his personal achievements and record in the community would be all he needed.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 29, 2015 08:08 PM (rwI+c)

282 Flynn really needs to work on the "Happy Warrior" thing. Combine that with his obvious intellect and he'd have no difficulty whipping a bowl of mush like LaHood.

Posted by: pep at June 29, 2015 08:10 PM (LAe3v)

283
How many of you realized that I am actually a Great Albanian Wooly Spider?

Posted by: The "Hair" on top of Rients' head at June 29, 2015 08:10 PM (KUa85)

284 How much money did LaHood's campaign donate to Reints?

Posted by: buzzion at June 29, 2015 08:11 PM (z/Ubi)

285 How many of you realized that I am actually a Great Albanian Wooly Spider?

I caught it right away.

Posted by: Zombie Larry Fine at June 29, 2015 08:11 PM (Dwehj)

286 But do any of these wingnuts know how to drink? *hic*

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at June 29, 2015 08:13 PM (Dwehj)

287 Don't discount the benefit of angry. The Peoria I'm familiar with has no love for DC (or Chicago for that matter.)

Granted, Flynn's opposition to all things farming subsidy (while a good idea) may hurt him (I didn't see how LaHood went with that.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at June 29, 2015 08:13 PM (s92xH)

288
Posted by: The "Hair" on top of Rients' head at June 29, 2015 08:10 PM (KUa85)
---------
Trump/Rients 2016

Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 08:13 PM (NUqwG)

289 Sometimes you just have to man up and get butt plugs.

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 29, 2015 08:15 PM (HstNY)

290 Yeah, Flynn is out at the Malls. The Nursing Homes. His schedule is jamb packed. He is putting a hell of an effort into this.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 29, 2015 08:16 PM (RQ2Z6)

291 Flynn reminds me of Adam Corrolla. He has some of the same mannerisms and they look similar.

Posted by: Weirddave at June 29, 2015 08:18 PM (WvS3w)

292 Trump/Rients 2016

Don't. Stop. Thinking about a hairball.

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at June 29, 2015 08:18 PM (Dwehj)

293 Any of you happen to catch the amount of views on the live You Tube stream? It was about 300 half way though, a 100 of those had to be us.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 29, 2015 08:19 PM (nkUcM)

294 Really hard to tell if the general public will just go with name recognition. Even if Flynn's name was Breitbart, that name is recognized by the blog community, but so many are LIVs.

Flynn's strong points to me are pointing out LaHood's connection to the old machine versus his connection to taking down ACORN, and work against the establishment. With the Breitbart background, it seemed clear he would use media to get his/our message heard.

He made clear that DC doesn't listen to we the people, while LaHood went to DC for the big money. LaHood rattled off his endorsements, and Flynn should use that against him, as the establishment choice.

Turnout will be key ... I'd guess those angry and wanting change would be more motivated. That should bode well for Flynn. Hope so.

Posted by: Illiniwek at June 29, 2015 08:20 PM (eNP7U)

295 Doesn't Flynn have name recognition in that part of the state due to family business? I thought ace mentioned his campaign material has his name styled the same way as the business does.

Posted by: Buzzion at June 29, 2015 08:22 PM (z/Ubi)

296 BTW they have taken down Confederate flags at Fort Sumter now.

Fort. Sumter.

Posted by: blaster at June 29, 2015 08:23 PM (2Ocf1)

297 Emails are gone, emails are gone.

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at June 29, 2015 08:23 PM (Dwehj)

298 BTW they have taken down Confederate flags at Fort Sumter now.

I will have it replaced with a rainbow flag.

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at June 29, 2015 08:26 PM (Dwehj)

299 Flynn has so obviously thought about ideas and policy a ton more than the others. He showed that clearly. However, both he and LaHood both acted like he is behind a decent amount still. I liked the way Flynn dinged him on the sugar subsidy, and on being the party man. The line about having a debate probably was going to too big a bite, since anyone that was watching it with an open mind obviously thought it was worthwhile time investment. That's kinda an awkward thing to get to at the end of that forum.

The party is trying to run the clock out. The LaHood name is a lot to overcome in a short timeframe, when people are just waking up to the election now. LaHood's gambit is that people aren't paying attention, he can just spout off the talking points and wait it out. Being basically the district that brought us Bob Michel and his dad, he might be right. Darin does not display the same level of natural political ability as either of them did, though. Empty suit...I see the appeal for Boehner.

I think Reints is in there of his own volition, but if you think there is any ulterior motive to it, I guarantee it is to obscure LaHood's woodenness. It has nothing to do with dividing the anti-establishment vote, because Reints isn't going to get any of it. LaHood's stylistic weakness doesn't look so bad when you've got Reints speaking right before or after him.

Posted by: Dave S. at June 29, 2015 08:26 PM (mhkbv)

300 It's cute that anyone thinks elections matter any more.

http://tinyurl.com/om5t6nh

Supreme kangaroo court rejects appeal to allow states to require proof of citizenship from people registering for federal elections.

Posted by: Methos at June 29, 2015 08:27 PM (ZbV+0)

301 Speaking of Trump (are we ?) I'm pissed that NBC cancelled airing Ms Universe becaise of remarks he made on a political campaign.

Posted by: @votermom at June 29, 2015 08:28 PM (cbfNE)

302 how does lahood have name recognition? lahood served in obama admin. how does that help him?

Posted by: bjk at June 29, 2015 08:30 PM (x2rNW)

303 Supreme kangaroo court rejects appeal to allow states to require proof
of citizenship from people registering for federal elections.

They're going for the whole commie enchilada. History will record this as Red June in Amerika.

Posted by: Uncle Busyhands at June 29, 2015 08:30 PM (Dwehj)

304
When someone speaks Against The Narrative, the Left will punish them economically and shun them socially.

They are Fascists with a communist bent.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 29, 2015 08:31 PM (4oVym)

305 Flynn reminds me of Adam Corrolla.

That was my immediate impression too. Heh.

Posted by: cm9000 at June 29, 2015 08:33 PM (8zCR+)

306 I'm pissed that NBC cancelled airing Ms Universe becaise of remarks he made on a political campaign.

You'll get Mx. Trans-Gay-verse and like it

Posted by: NBC at June 29, 2015 08:33 PM (FcR7P)

307 After all the incredibly bad news these past weeks I'm just popping in with a very touching about some boys who got to meet a WWII war vet who had become their hero. Listen to the video with the old salt:

http://tinyurl.com/q2z6ap7

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 08:34 PM (OSs/l)

308 Minor thing and a personal one, but 'everybody's crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man!'

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 29, 2015 08:35 PM (ftVQq)

309
It is my dream that someday soon we treat the Left like the vicious savages they are.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 29, 2015 08:36 PM (4oVym)

310 I didn't watch the whole thing, just a little snippet. I know nothing about the local politics involved, but my thoughts:

I see why you like Flynn. Seems to be sort of a direct person..intense in a non creepy way.

But first impression favors LaHood. Maybe it's an liv thing, but he dressed properly and he spoke well enough. Tell your buddy he needs to wear a suit. I am actually baffled at his choice of attire. What is he trying to say here?

Posted by: Lea at June 29, 2015 08:36 PM (vmMMi)

311 Looking forward to when Catholic suicide bombers attack the NYT building.
I'm sure the reaction on the left will be, "Now I support the Times' right to free speech, but what they did was vile, insensitive and foolhardy. They kind of had it coming".

Posted by: Mr. Moohammad at June 29, 2015 08:36 PM (F1Z8f)

312 young shrillary was thrown off the Nixon Watergate tapes investigation for being
" disingenuous", too be kind.

Now she's trying to pull the same shit, hiding evidence of her sec of state gig.

No one died as a result of Watergate.

Nixon- tape recorder
pantsuit- e-mails

ain't progress great ?

Posted by: seamrog at June 29, 2015 08:37 PM (MbsHW)

313 Flynn has some name recognition around Quincy I suppose, less so across the district.

Levin will give him a boost too. Maybe he could get some email lists, so he could feed links out, like the Levin interview.

Posted by: Illiniwek at June 29, 2015 08:37 PM (eNP7U)

314 Flynn's on Levin right now.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 29, 2015 08:38 PM (jR7Wy)

315 No one died as a result of Watergate.

How many will as a result of her presidency?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 29, 2015 08:38 PM (W5DcG)

316 From mah twitterz:

Real classy, NBC, punishing Ms Universe for the remarks Trump made on a political campaign.
Maybe you should write his speeches?

Posted by: @votermom at June 29, 2015 08:39 PM (Xl3/J)

317 I told Ace Flynn would be on any minute but Levin is hour delay in MA. Live it is second hour little more than halfway through. 7:40 or so EDT Live.

Posted by: Carol at June 29, 2015 08:40 PM (sj3Ax)

318 LaHood because he was state senator and his dad was in office here for some time. I've only been back here 15 years and don't know who's who really. Not really a mover and shaker. lol

Posted by: Illiniwek at June 29, 2015 08:41 PM (eNP7U)

319 Posted by: Lea at June 29, 2015 08:36 PM (vmMMi)

Maybe Flynn knows his voters better than I do, but it seems a bit disrespectful to your voters to show up dressed like you're at the feed store. The words and thoughts he put forth are clearly spot on, but there are voters that are not entirely focused on content.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 29, 2015 08:41 PM (ftVQq)

320 Bertram,
How many have DIED from his presidency?
FIFY!

Posted by: Carol at June 29, 2015 08:42 PM (sj3Ax)

321 Rients for SMOD.

Posted by: Benedick at June 29, 2015 08:43 PM (1h0MC)

322 315 Bertram C.

I'd bet she's already involved with the demise of dozens.

Posted by: seamrog at June 29, 2015 08:43 PM (MbsHW)

323 Whew!

Just manually scrolled the whole way down here...

I don't miss that.

Posted by: Garrett at June 29, 2015 08:44 PM (0I0Fq)

324 Any polling on this? Couldn't find anything at RCP.

Posted by: cm9000 at June 29, 2015 08:44 PM (8zCR+)

325 No, I'm wondering how many will be killed in battle during the Hillary reign. It could be bad. She may try to prove just how tough she is.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 29, 2015 08:44 PM (W5DcG)

326 Levin auto rewind is usually available from his website 9 pm EDT or within minutes. It's 8:45 here in MA & into Levin second hour on hour delay & haven't heard Flynn yet!

Posted by: Carol at June 29, 2015 08:46 PM (sj3Ax)

327 Wow, I love that tweet about conservatism and humility. Is that Flynns quote?

Posted by: pj at June 29, 2015 08:47 PM (cHuNI)

328 Posted by: Carol at June 29, 2015 08:46 PM (sj3Ax)

Flynn is on at about 0:32 past the last (3rd) hour of Levin!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 29, 2015 08:48 PM (ftVQq)

329 Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 29, 2015 08:44 PM (W5DcG)

For starters, you can add four to the "presidential" count!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 29, 2015 08:49 PM (ftVQq)

330 But first impression favors LaHood. Maybe it's an liv thing, but he dressed properly and he spoke well enough. Tell your buddy he needs to wear a suit. I am actually baffled at his choice of attire. What is he trying to say here?
Posted by: Lea at June 29, 2015 08:36 PM (vmMMi)

Any bets on Flynn receiving last minute notice that this forum would be live streamed with video instead of just a radio broadcast?

Posted by: buzzion at June 29, 2015 08:50 PM (z/Ubi)

331 Flynn is on at about 0:32 past the last (3rd) hour of Levin!

Lasted less than 15 minutes.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 29, 2015 08:51 PM (W5DcG)

332 lahoodie will be view as the snob that he is. Flynn dressed that way on purpose.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 29, 2015 08:52 PM (RQ2Z6)

333
Trump had the last laugh, though, regarding NBC trying to embarrass.

Trump said in a statement that NBC would rather stand by "Lying Brian Williams" than "stand behind people that tell it like it is, as unpleasant as that may be."

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 29, 2015 08:55 PM (4oVym)

334 Any bets on Flynn receiving last minute notice that
this forum would be live streamed with video instead of just a radio
broadcast?

Posted by: buzzion at June 29, 2015 08:50 PM (z/Ubi)

Nah, they'd never do anything like that to a conservative candidate!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 29, 2015 08:55 PM (ftVQq)

335 No, I'm wondering how many will be killed in battle during the Hillary reign. It could be bad. She may try to prove just how tough she is.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 29, 2015 08:44 PM (W5DcG)
------
Battle? Nah, they'll be killed in domestic terrorism that the media will cover up or misrepresent. Gotta keep importing those Dem voters.

Posted by: Mr. Moohammad at June 29, 2015 08:56 PM (F1Z8f)

336
So for those keeping score:

NBC: -1
Drewm: -1
Trump: +5

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 29, 2015 08:56 PM (4oVym)

337 Flynn's man of the people casual look probably worked fine. It was a pretty casual setting, and he made the other guys look over dressed. And that's sorta part of his point, LaHood is a suit.

I give it two thumbs up.

Posted by: Illiniwek at June 29, 2015 08:57 PM (eNP7U)

338 There's no way I could ever vote for Flynn. He said absolutely nothing about banning sex whatsoever.

Posted by: Typical SoCon Voter at June 29, 2015 08:59 PM (YYJjz)

339 >>Wow, I love that tweet about conservatism and humility. Is that Flynns quote?

yes his was much better; i had to truncate it. I will transcribe the full quote tomorrow.

Posted by: ace at June 29, 2015 09:01 PM (bhepQ)

340 Mr. Flynn don't know what's best for you, and I believe him! (hah!) But I know what's best. I studied Nutrition Science at Harvard and Princeton. You will eat my Soylent groin and like it, suckers!

Posted by: Moochelle Obama at June 29, 2015 09:01 PM (F1Z8f)

341 Without a doubt,
This guy can win,
So get out and vote for The Mike Flynn!

Posted by: The Mighty Quin at June 29, 2015 09:03 PM (21zCy)

342 You will eat my Soylent groin and like it, suckers!

I hope that is a typo. After last Friday's ruling, however, I am not sanguine.

Posted by: Grey Fox at June 29, 2015 09:04 PM (a42f0)

343
Speaking of Trump (are we ?) I'm pissed that NBC cancelled airing Ms Universe becaise of remarks he made on a political campaign.

Posted by: @votermom at June 29, 2015 08:28 PM (cbfNE)

Regardless of what outrageous thing the Combover Clown said, after he announced his candidacy, NBC was always going to sever the relationship.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 29, 2015 09:04 PM (+OXwX)

344 Posted by: Typical SoCon Voter at June 29, 2015 08:59 PM (YYJjz)

I do hope that was satire because if not, it was a moronic comment and not in a good way.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 09:05 PM (OSs/l)

345 >>332 lahoodie will be view as the snob that he is. Flynn dressed that way on purpose.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 29, 2015 08:52 PM (RQ2Z6)

I don't live in Illinois so i don't know. If this was a bunch of candidates standing around in a bar? Maybe?

But he looked underdressed to me. And more than that, he looked underdressed and weirdly preppy. To be blunt, my it impression of him is sort of nerdy, so I think he should have worn something to give himself more gravitas.

I guess we will see how it plays in his town.

Posted by: Lea at June 29, 2015 09:05 PM (vmMMi)

346 Trump said immigrants should work hard and not expect benefits

Which used to be the rule

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 09:05 PM (zOTsN)

347 Ace and All ...

... I'm sure Mike Flynn is a swell fellow. Seriously.

But electing another Republican only makes things worse.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 29, 2015 09:06 PM (FAbks)

348 Saw Soylent Groin open for The Queers at HeebeeGeeBees in 1987.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 29, 2015 09:06 PM (W5DcG)

349 so I think he should have worn something to give himself more gravitas.
-----
That's what the batteries were for but he took them out of his pocket.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 09:07 PM (NUqwG)

350 Come on, get out,
And help him get in,
Help Illinois 18 elect The Mike Flynn.

Posted by: The Mighty Quinn at June 29, 2015 09:09 PM (21zCy)

351 @344 - "I do hope that was satire because if not, it was a moronic comment and not in a good way."

Well, the least he could have done is throw us a bone by calling for a ban on pornography, right?

Posted by: Typical SoCon Voter at June 29, 2015 09:09 PM (YYJjz)

352 His supporters are informally using in like Flynn right?

Posted by: Lea at June 29, 2015 09:09 PM (vmMMi)

353 Ed Morrissey is such a jackass.

Sorry OT, but dear lord is he a putz.

Posted by: Lauren at June 29, 2015 09:09 PM (IWKHs)

354 The Ultra Yacht makes a good point whoever he or she is.

Is it ace? I don't know.

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2015 09:12 PM (MDgS8)

355 He's like an uncle to me.

Posted by: Mitch Rapp at June 29, 2015 09:12 PM (F1Z8f)

356 To elect LaHood,
Helps John Boehner win,
So, please, everyone vote for the righty, Flynn!

Posted by: The Mighty Quinn at June 29, 2015 09:13 PM (21zCy)

357 So trending in twitter is

Who Is Burning Black Churches?#

This has happened in previous years

1. They aren't all black churches

2. Some are from natural causes like lightening strike

3. Others are from old or bad wiring.

4. And some are arson. By the pastors

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 09:13 PM (zOTsN)

358 I will vote for Flynn.

In like Flint.

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2015 09:14 PM (MDgS8)

359
#whoisrapingallthewomen?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 29, 2015 09:14 PM (4oVym)

360 I heard Flynn on Mark Levin. I was impressed, so I'm sending him a donation.

..that and big 'fu to boner, the GOPe, and the c of c

Posted by: Willy at June 29, 2015 09:15 PM (ersJc)

361 Pretty sure. He keeps changing his twitter handle, NTTAWWT.

Posted by: Squatch Pride at June 29, 2015 09:16 PM (F1Z8f)

362 Black pastors.

types deletes

types deletes

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2015 09:16 PM (MDgS8)

363 "But electing another Republican only makes things worse."

Alas, there isn't an "elect this bundle of dynamite" option, so you go with the next best option...

Posted by: Phil at June 29, 2015 09:16 PM (39FGM)

364 You will eat my Soylent groin and like it, suckers!

Soylent groin is PENIS!

Posted by: Ranty Non-Person at June 29, 2015 09:17 PM (0NdlF)

365 Ace is mercurial.

I just wanted to use that word. I like it.

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2015 09:17 PM (MDgS8)

366 From the Flynn website?

"LaHood's father, a Republican congressman for 24 years, served in President Obama's Cabinet, the only Republican to do so in all seven years of the Obama Administration."

Is he stupid? Or I am looking at a fake website?

mike flynn for congress dot com

Posted by: RioBravo at June 29, 2015 09:18 PM (NUqwG)

367 Soylent groin is Hillary!!!!

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2015 09:18 PM (MDgS8)

368 Regardless of what outrageous thing the Combover Clown said, after he announced his candidacy, NBC was always going to sever the relationship.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 29, 2015 09:04 PM (+OXwX)

--

Why? Ms. Universe is its own organization, and I don't think Trump even appears at the actual show at all?

Posted by: @votermom at June 29, 2015 09:19 PM (cbfNE)

369 And some are arson. By the pastors

Why would pastors burn their own churches?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 09:19 PM (OSs/l)

370
Because some pastors are no-good.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 29, 2015 09:20 PM (4oVym)

371 Because they're crooked as hell...

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2015 09:20 PM (MDgS8)

372 The same reason businesses do

They are failing and in financial trouble and do it for the insurance money

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 09:21 PM (zOTsN)

373
Just like some popes are no good.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 29, 2015 09:21 PM (4oVym)

374
369 And some are arson. By the pastors

Why would pastors burn their own churches?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 09:19 PM (OSs/l)

You have to ask?

Insurance. Publicity of "evil people burned our church down, and we need to ask for donations to build a new one."

Posted by: Buzzion at June 29, 2015 09:21 PM (z/Ubi)

375 "Why would pastors burn their own churches?"

Why would a lesbian activist go to a southern california campus, contract for a sexual hookup with a male, and then claim she was raped? Hmmmmmm....

Posted by: Phil at June 29, 2015 09:22 PM (39FGM)

376 fenelon!!

how did the weekend go with your new responsibilities?

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 29, 2015 09:22 PM (0O7c5)

377 It's an exceedingly small number that are arson

And then you have the case in houston where a homeless guy lit a fire to stay warm and accidentally burned down some part of a black church

Not racially motivated at all, but still arson

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 09:24 PM (zOTsN)

378 I don't know. Lesbian activists tend to be quite kooky. I'm a pastor. I'm friends with black pastors, I can't imagine them burning their own churches. Wearing "Black lives matter" tee-shirts, yeah. Burning down the church you've spent years in preaching and baptizing people and praying?-no.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 09:24 PM (OSs/l)

379 369 And some are arson. By the pastors
------------------------
Why would pastors burn their own churches?

Can anyone provide a single example of a pastor performing arson on his own church?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 29, 2015 09:25 PM (0NdlF)

380 You know ... I've spent the time reading the majority opinions this week.

Now you tell me ... I can see why Grown Ass Adults can say, in a nutshell, We'll Do As We Wish.

But you show me ... honestly ... how this shit will stop at Adults. I say it will not. Within our lifetimes, we'll see this country debating the legal age at which Boys and Girls can enter into a Sexual Relationship, against the consent of their Parents.

This shit will get there. Mark my words. I've only been right every damn timed until now.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 29, 2015 09:26 PM (FAbks)

381 Victimisation stunt for attention. Not everyone is, as they say, playing with a full deck.

Posted by: Phil at June 29, 2015 09:26 PM (39FGM)

382
378 I don't know. Lesbian activists tend to be quite kooky. I'm a pastor. I'm friends with black pastors, I can't imagine them burning their own churches. Wearing "Black lives matter" tee-shirts, yeah. Burning down the church you've spent years in preaching and baptizing people and praying?-no.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 09:24 PM (OSs/l)

And what about a preacher like Jeremiah Wright? Could you see someone like him burning down his own church?

Posted by: Buzzion at June 29, 2015 09:26 PM (z/Ubi)

383 Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 29, 2015 09:22 PM (0O7c5)

How kind of you to ask, PG. It was fine. I enjoyed myself and hopefully they weren't so appalled by me they'll come back next week. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 09:26 PM (OSs/l)

384 >>>Just like some popes are no good.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 29, 2015 09:21 PM (4oVym)<<<

I would never burn a church... it would hurt Gaia!!!

Posted by: ~~General~~ Pope Franco at June 29, 2015 09:27 PM (21zCy)

385
New prediction: before obama leaves office he will admit he's an atheist.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 29, 2015 09:27 PM (4oVym)

386 Bethel AME church destroyed

Pastor and his wife charged with arson

2005

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 09:27 PM (zOTsN)

387 Rusty Nail (214): "name one state that
has separate state and federal election ballots on election day". Virginia does. State elections (governor and both houses of the legislature) are in odd-numbered years, so it's not even the same election day. New Jersey, New York City, and Los Angeles also elect their chief executives in odd-numbered years, and (I think) also their legislators/city-councilmen. So two medium-sized states and the two largest cities in the U.S. have separate state/city and federal elections and (obviously) ballots.

I remember this because these four elections taken together often provide a convenient bell-wether indicator, giving a strong hint of what's likely to happen in the rest of the nation in the much bigger election a year later.

Posted by: Dr Weevil at June 29, 2015 09:28 PM (niRFR)

388 And what about a preacher like Jeremiah Wright? Could you see someone like him burning down his own church?

Not really, no. That's how outlandish the accusation sounds to some of us.

Example, please.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 29, 2015 09:28 PM (0NdlF)

389 4. And some are arson. By the pastors

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 09:13 PM (zOTsN)

Black churches burned down by racist white Klansmen is one of those perennial standbys of the media that never actually happens.

Posted by: cm9000 at June 29, 2015 09:28 PM (8zCR+)

390 In CA

Fellowship Baptist Church

Pastor Mark arrested for arson

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 09:29 PM (zOTsN)

391 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 09:24 PM (OSs/

It happened in Houston a few years ago .

Posted by: Cruzinator at June 29, 2015 09:29 PM (Q4pU/)

392 how does lahood have name recognition? lahood served in obama admin. how does that help him?
Posted by: bjk at June 29, 2015 08:30 PM (x2rNW)

Ray LaHood, his Daddy, held the same seat they are running for for 14 years, and probably would still hold it if not for Obama offering him the TransSec gig. Who knows how many people even know this is not Ray LaHood running. Lower info voters might just see "LaHood" and pull the lever without thinking about it because, in their minds, they've always sent a LaHood to Congress.

Then again, I think special elections tend to favor conservatives, so who knows. I hope Flynn can pull this off.

Has Rush mentioned this race on his show at all?

Posted by: holygoat at June 29, 2015 09:29 PM (uQsRs)

393 Posted by: Buzzion at June 29, 2015 09:26 PM (z/Ubi)

No, quite honestly. Jeremiah is a person whose views I utterly deplore but if people are burning down their own churches they're not ministers of the Gospel. I assume he thinks he is. If you've been at a place long enough you grow to love it. Even if some of the people there may not be the most pleasant souls you still have a connection to the place and its history

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 09:29 PM (OSs/l)

394 Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 09:29 PM (zOTsN)

Well then that pastor was being used by powers and principalities.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 09:30 PM (OSs/l)

395 Blessed Again Ministries Church in Houston

Burned to the ground by its pastor, 2015

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 09:30 PM (zOTsN)

396 Black churches burned down by racist white Klansmen is one of those perennial standbys of the media that never actually happens.

Posted by: cm9000

See also: anti-muslim backlashes.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Indestructible at June 29, 2015 09:30 PM (tgnRB)

397 >>>Why would pastors burn their own churches?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 09:19 PM (OSs/l)<<<

Not taking in enough in collection... hey, insurance company... fuck you pay me.

And then finally, when there's nothing left, when you can't borrow
another buck from the bank or buy another case of sacramental wine, you bust the
joint out. You light a match.

Posted by: Henry Hill at June 29, 2015 09:31 PM (21zCy)

398 I'm not saying it couldn't or didn't happen. I'm saying i don't think that's what happening in the South. Could members of the church or other churches be doing it?-yes

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 09:32 PM (OSs/l)

399 Scuse, por favor, can anyone here tell me which these gringo pay me for vote? Gracias!

Posted by: "Undocumented American" voter at June 29, 2015 09:32 PM (Wj6hd)

400 No, quite honestly. Jeremiah is a person whose views I utterly deplore
but if people are burning down their own churches they're not ministers
of the Gospel. I assume he thinks he is. If you've been at a place long
enough you grow to love it. Even if some of the people there may not be
the most pleasant souls you still have a connection to the place and
its history

Mr/Mrs/Ms Fenn ...

... I don't think you're going to like the next decade. Might want to harden up a bit.

Posted by: ScoggDog at June 29, 2015 09:32 PM (FAbks)

401 You light a match.
Posted by: Henry Hill

Got a light?

Posted by: Queen Barry I at June 29, 2015 09:33 PM (tgnRB)

402 Not saying they are good pastors

But if a church burns, check out the churches finances and pastor first. Just saying

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 09:33 PM (zOTsN)

403
Some pastors are also fornicators.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 29, 2015 09:33 PM (4oVym)

404 Heck, I've been in a church that wasn't taking in enough collection money. It's never crossed my mind to burn it down.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 09:33 PM (OSs/l)

405 great fenelon!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 29, 2015 09:33 PM (0O7c5)

406 Can anyone provide a single example of a pastor performing arson on his own church?>>>

Well Obama and Hillary both go Pastor speak on the campaign trail. And they are doing their damnedest to burn America down.

Posted by: Robinson at June 29, 2015 09:34 PM (1SHv1)

407
Just like when a married person dies. They look at the spouse first.

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2015 09:34 PM (MDgS8)

408 >>>Got a light?

Posted by: Queen Barry I at June 29, 2015 09:33 PM (tgnRB)<<<

Go get your shine box!

Posted by: Henry Hill at June 29, 2015 09:34 PM (21zCy)

409 It has already happened in South Carolina, Georgia, Texas

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 09:34 PM (zOTsN)

410 Why would a lesbian activist go to a southern california campus, contract for a sexual hookup with a male, and then claim she was raped? Hmmmmmm....
Posted by: Phil at June 29, 2015 09:22 PM (39FGM)
---------
I'm sure there are many young liberal men (and women) on college campuses who would go weak at the knees at the thought of hooking up with me.

Posted by: Hillary "Cougar" Clinton at June 29, 2015 09:34 PM (F1Z8f)

411
Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson consider themselves pastors. Both men are despicable.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 29, 2015 09:34 PM (4oVym)

412 I try to ask Mary clogstain this question but she mucho loco! Maybe too much peyote, I think.....lotta Democrat like dat.

Posted by: "Undocumented American" voter at June 29, 2015 09:35 PM (Wj6hd)

413 Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 09:33 PM (zOTsN)

I'm not saying NOT to do that; I guess I'm sort of flabbergasted that pastors would do that and I'm by NO means saying pastors can't be sinful and fornicators. Of course they can be. I'm just saying in SC it may even be "Blacks Lives Matter" folks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 09:36 PM (OSs/l)

414 And what about a preacher like Jeremiah Wright? Could you see someone like him burning down his own church?
Posted by: Buzzion at June 29, 2015 09:26 PM (z/Ubi)

I could see him burning down some Whitey church.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 29, 2015 09:36 PM (OB/ib)

415 I'm sure there are many young liberal men (and women) on college campuses who would go weak at the knees at the thought of hooking up with me.

Presumably from the chloroform.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 29, 2015 09:36 PM (rwI+c)

416 Soothsayer -- exactamundo.

Pastor means wildly different things to different people.

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2015 09:37 PM (MDgS8)

417 ThunderB, thanks for the links.

Fellowship Baptist Church

Pastor Mark arrested for arson

This one was for arson of his ex-GF's home, however. Not church.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 29, 2015 09:38 PM (0NdlF)

418 There are about five cases in Texas last few years where the pastors have been indicted or convicted of murder. Arson would be child's play.

Posted by: Cruzinator at June 29, 2015 09:38 PM (Q4pU/)

419 Presumably from the chloroform.>>>

An important part to any PIV kit nowadays.

Posted by: Robinson at June 29, 2015 09:39 PM (1SHv1)

420 david koresh?

Posted by: derit at June 29, 2015 09:40 PM (jT+gh)

421 {{{{fen}}}}

I was a prosecutor. I'm jaded. I'm so glad you aren't

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 09:40 PM (zOTsN)

422 Al Sharpton has never pastored a church, as far as I know. even thug he was ordained. Jesse Jackson hasn't been a pastor of a church for decades They are race hustlers and shakedown artists. Yes, pastors can be bad people.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 09:40 PM (OSs/l)

423 And what about a preacher like Jeremiah Wright? Could you see someone like him burning down his own church?

Posted by: Buzzion at June 29, 2015 09:26 PM (z/Ubi)

If he was distracted by some strange and didn't notice his crack pipe lightin' up the curtains, sure. He ain't no consiglierte, that's for sure.

Posted by: Peaches at June 29, 2015 09:40 PM (EgOr3)

424 Meant "even though" he was ordained.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 09:41 PM (OSs/l)

425 Yes they can be very bad people indeed.

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2015 09:41 PM (MDgS8)

426
When Andrea Yates murdered her 5 children, I knew then that anyone is capable of anything.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Lovin Spoonful at June 29, 2015 09:41 PM (4oVym)

427 Emails are gone, emails are gone.
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at June 29, 2015 08:23 PM (Dwehj)

Hillary has a long mustache.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 29, 2015 09:41 PM (W5DcG)

428 People can be bad. All people

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 09:42 PM (zOTsN)

429 I'm probably fairly jaded. Maybe it's that i can't wrap my mind around that particular crime.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 09:43 PM (OSs/l)

430 I blame AllenG for inciting these acts with his hateful refrain. He needs to be censored.

Posted by: s at June 29, 2015 09:43 PM (F1Z8f)

431 Conservatism is a humility-- we do not know what's best for you."

Too bad more politicians don't have this attitude. Or how about it's your life you figure it out and pay for it yourself.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 29, 2015 09:43 PM (DiZBp)

432 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 09:40 PM (OSs/l)

Actually, in a way...some might also assume that toasting their own churches under the cover of racist moral panics, may elevate them to the bigger $$$ leagues of the hustler class...

Not saying that's whats happened... just a possiblity.

Posted by: Phil at June 29, 2015 09:43 PM (39FGM)

433 Why would pastors burn their own churches?

====

we had one go up just a couple days ago. it hasn't been proveen but....

....it was a former church, semi historical, and they just got the OK to sell and the sale was blocked by history nuts the day before it burned up.

hunh. bad luck. watcha gonna do

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 29, 2015 09:44 PM (Cq0oW)

434 Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 09:42 PM (zOTsN)

I don't dispute it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 09:45 PM (OSs/l)

435 @430 Kidding. That's the kind of stupid nonsequitur liberals self servingly use.

Posted by: liberal nonsequitur at June 29, 2015 09:45 PM (F1Z8f)

436 Of the churches they are claiming were burned down by racist white people (BIRM)

Some are not black churches, one was hit by lightening, a couple had bad wiring

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 09:46 PM (zOTsN)

437 Some are not black churches, one was hit by lightening, a couple had bad wiring

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 09:46 PM (zOTsN)

Lightening and bad wiring are RACIST!!!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 29, 2015 09:47 PM (DiZBp)

438 The chapel I was married in burned to the ground a few years ago. Mrs Weasel and I happened by as it was still smoldering and I asked the Fire Marshall if it meant our marriage was no longer valid. He referred me to a higher authority.

Posted by: Weasel at June 29, 2015 09:47 PM (e3bId)

439 I met a "pastor" that I was less than impressed by. To say the least.

My takeaway was that that word means basically nothing.

Of course that was just one guy.

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2015 09:47 PM (MDgS8)

440 Why does John Kasich remind me of a less likable Richard Nixon...Is it the weird posture?

Posted by: Phil at June 29, 2015 09:48 PM (39FGM)

441 Hmmm...

**taps finger on chin**

**contemplates starting a church and storing (what's not already been torched) of my tax info there**

Posted by: "the reverend" Al Not-So-Shapton at June 29, 2015 09:48 PM (21zCy)

442 Lightening and bad wiring are RACIST!!!!!>>>

You're telling me.

Posted by: Math at June 29, 2015 09:49 PM (1SHv1)

443 But Holy Shit, this country is over. The SCOTUS
tyrants just said States can't force voters to prove identity. What in
the fuckity fuck?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 29, 2015 07:02 PM (ODxAs)

WHAT!?!

Posted by: redbanzai at June 29, 2015 09:50 PM (NPofj)

444 some black pastors are there for the whole down low thing. they risk ruin if found out, but it's a broad, secretive community of its own

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 29, 2015 09:51 PM (Cq0oW)

445 Anyone remember how quick the mainstream media were to inform the public when Sarah Palin's church was the target of an arson attack?

::: crickets :::

Some churches are more equal than others.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 29, 2015 09:51 PM (noWW6)

446 People in black robes are unethical.

who knew?

Posted by: eleven at June 29, 2015 09:52 PM (MDgS8)

447 The SCOTUS
tyrants just said States can't force voters to prove identity.

I believe what they decided was that proof of citizenship did not have to be proven.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 29, 2015 09:52 PM (W5DcG)

448 Some are not black churches, one was hit by lightening, a couple had bad wiring

Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 09:46 PM (zOTsN)

Copper wire is racist. Conductivity is racist.

Posted by: cm9000 at June 29, 2015 09:52 PM (8zCR+)

449
You're telling me.

Posted by: Math at June 29, 2015 09:49 PM (1SHv1)

Hey Math! When the hell are you going to simply drop the sword on Greece, starting the debt chain reaction so the rebuilding can begin?

All this talk about burning is getting me antsy....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 29, 2015 09:52 PM (AC0lD)

450 Copper wire is racist. Conductivity is racist.

Obey Ohms law.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 29, 2015 09:53 PM (W5DcG)

451 I think the states should just ignore the SCOTUS ruling on Voter ID.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 09:53 PM (OSs/l)

452 Hey Math! When the hell are you going to simply drop the sword on
Greece, starting the debt chain reaction so the rebuilding can begin?>>>

Sorry to make you wait but I love the process.

Posted by: Math at June 29, 2015 09:54 PM (1SHv1)

453 The SCOTUS
tyrants just said States can't force voters to prove identity.

I believe what they decided was that proof of citizenship did not have to be proven.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 29, 2015 09:52 PM (W5DcG)

Well it must be racist to be a citizen of country to have to legally vote in it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 29, 2015 09:55 PM (DiZBp)

454 The States created the Federal Government and they can uncreate it.

It just takes the will to do so.

Posted by: eman at June 29, 2015 09:55 PM (MQEz6)

455 re voter id

is the ruling the states cannot ask at registration?

what about the polling place? those are typically run by parties, not the states.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 29, 2015 09:56 PM (Cq0oW)

456 I think the states should just ignore the SCOTUS ruling on Voter ID.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 09:53 PM (OSs/l)

You know that Barry will ignore the EPA ruling. So why listen to anything the SC says?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 29, 2015 09:56 PM (DiZBp)

457 some black pastors are there for the whole down low thing. they risk ruin if found out, but it's a broad, secretive community of its own

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 29, 2015 09:51 PM (Cq0oW)

https://youtu.be/FAHhytJoWDk (NSFW (language))

Posted by: Country Singer at June 29, 2015 09:56 PM (nL0sw)

458 "Well it must be racist to be a citizen of country to have to legally vote in it"

It's racist to have to vote... If only there was a racially aware party that would just intuitive supply the marked ballots...

Posted by: Phil at June 29, 2015 09:57 PM (39FGM)

459 They declined to hear a case from a lower court. That makes case law just as powerfully as hearing the case.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 29, 2015 07:38 PM (Zu3d9)

Sounds like the answer is for for AZ and KS to simply carry on demanding proof of citizenship to register voters. And if any person or entity tries to stop them, call out the National Guard.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 29, 2015 09:57 PM (wvk+d)

460 Now, see, that's why Catholic Churches are built of stone.....

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 29, 2015 09:58 PM (+YMhA)

461 ONT up.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 29, 2015 09:58 PM (0NdlF)

462 do i want to view that?

trying to get the kid to sleep

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 29, 2015 09:58 PM (Cq0oW)

463 Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at June 29, 2015 09:58 PM (Cq0oW)

It's the pastor scene from "Friday."

Posted by: Country Singer at June 29, 2015 10:00 PM (nL0sw)

464 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 29, 2015 10:00 PM (KCxzN)

465 >>436 Of the churches they are claiming were burned down by racist white people (BIRM)
Some are not black churches, one was hit by lightening, a couple had bad wiring
Posted by: ThunderB at June 29, 2015 09:46 PM (zOTsN)

Kind of like when people went crazy talking about a black man found hanging in the woods in Mississippi when it was pretty clearly going to turn out to be suicide.

And then nobody will ever mention it again and people are left with the impression of evil racists murdering in Ms.

Posted by: Lea at June 29, 2015 10:10 PM (vmMMi)

466 No, quite honestly. Jeremiah is a person whose views I utterly deplore but if people are burning down their own churches they're not ministers of the Gospel. I assume he thinks he is. If you've been at a place long enough you grow to love it. Even if some of the people there may not be the most pleasant souls you still have a connection to the place and its history

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 29, 2015 09:29 PM (OSs/l)

No true Scotsman, Fen.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 29, 2015 10:24 PM (wvk+d)

467 Flynn is very impressive...just tossed him a little coin...hope it makes a difference.

Posted by: rc at June 29, 2015 11:37 PM (J4ZHs)

468 In regards to wearing a suit - at some point people won't trust the guy wearing a suit. You are running to represent me... not be my boss.

Posted by: Reality Man at June 30, 2015 06:54 AM (BNEdd)

469
So when SCOTUS actually rules for the people against the EPA, Josh Earnest says they'll blow that ruling off. But for Homo "marriage" and Obamacare, it's the immutable law of the land and final.

Heads we win, tails you lose. Also known as "tyranny."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 30, 2015 07:38 AM (St6BJ)

470 Ditto what others are wondering... Any polling on this race?

Posted by: Doug at June 30, 2015 08:54 AM (yNjgJ)

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